It's hard to claim self defense when they're driving away from you.

It's hard to claim self defense when they're driving away from you.

@Linus Karlsson Hi friend, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to people's comments, though, admittedly, I couldn't disagree with you more. The word violence is broad and vague to the point of meaninglessness. I don't believe that  Black people are more violent than White people or Latinos (who are usually white-passing). Still, I do know that Black people are "overrepresented among offenders in nonfatal violent crimes overall (29%) relative to their share of the U.S. population (13%)" (source 1). Due to this, people often draw the conclusion that Black people are more violent. I also believe that some people have consciously (or unconsciously) decided that Black people are more violent, and then they look at crime stats and have their pre-determined belief confirmed. Statistics are great, but we should never just accept them outright without critically thinking about them. Hope you have a good day!
Source 1: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

No, actually it is not hard to claim self-defense if you shoot at someone driving or walking away from you.  It depends on what the person or persons in the vehicle are doing at the time they are driving away. The right to self-defense does not depend on which war the person is going at the time. Had someone in the red vehicle been shooting at him, he might have had a self-defense case, but based on what the evidence showed, it was not self-defense.  Study your law books Indy before you make such an uninformed remark.

@Nintendo Freak  You got it pretty much right. In addition to what you said i would like to add, my experience is not based on an isolated incident. Its sadly plentyful. And obviously there are exceptions. Statistics support the claim that blacks are more prone to violence than whites, so there is no point arguing about that.
Bold claim to say its inhereted, you might say. Keep in mind its not necessary geneticly speaking, its more likely culturaly inherited.

Fair enough, not all rap is promoting drugs and crimes. Like some country isn't about love or a cowboy dude. However a lot of mainstream rap does tho, especially the type that gangs blast in their speakers.

@Linus Karlsson Lemme try and rationalize this. Because of a previous interaction with black people and/or having been exposed to stereotypes of black people being inherently loud and violent with very little to suggest otherwise, you approach any following interaction with a preset notion that they are likely dangerous individuals. Is that what you're saying? Because if so, you're not exactly racist, but you definitely lack perspective. Not every rapper is a drug addict and not all songs are about sex and thug life. There are plenty of rappers who use their music as a way of calling attention to problems in society, or to tell a story. While a lot of rap music sounds somewhat the same, the variety in its content is just as diverse as any other genre. I won't touch on black people being inherently aggressive or dangerous because it would seem you understand that it's not true. But I would recommend looking into it a bit further. From the way you phrased your opinion, you might've made the exact same mistake as the guy above.

@Linus Karlsson you literally are the straw man

@Linus Karlsson you literally are the straw man

@Carlin Pendleton "shooter" What shooter? The guy who murdered a kid and almost killed some more?

@Carlin Pendleton "shooter" What shooter? The guy who murdered a kid and almost killed some more?

No, it's clearly self-defence. He feared for his Rhonda's life because he knew the boys gangsters were about to fire their stick backwards over their shoulders like movie characters.

No, it's clearly self-defence. He feared for -his- Rhonda's life because he knew the -boys- gangsters were about to fire their stick backwards over their shoulders like movie characters.

@Carlin Pendleton  still it makes it harder to claim than if the car doing the opposite.

@Carlin Pendleton  still it makes it harder to claim than if the car doing the opposite.

@Linus Karlsson "I have a good reason to be racist" <br>Yeah, you're the first in your family to walk upright.

@Linus Karlsson "I have a good reason to be racist"
Yeah, you're the first in your family to walk upright.

@Brianna Alvarez Exactly!! I can’t with people calling it thug music, like it’s only created by people who commit crimes and are real life gangsters. It’s rap. It’s a genre of music. You don’t even have to like it if you don’t like the drugs and idk other “thug” themes (I can’t think of anymore) in the music. And if it were white kids listening to “thug” music and telling him off, he wouldn’t have done a thing. He would have thought “they’re just dumb kids.”<br>Where I live everyone carry’s guns around. I am white and I blast rap music with the windows down all the time. No one has ever perceived me as a threat. These kids do the same thing and they get shot for it. This world is disgusting.

@Brianna Alvarez Exactly!! I can’t with people calling it thug music, like it’s only created by people who commit crimes and are real life gangsters. It’s rap. It’s a genre of music. You don’t even have to like it if you don’t like the drugs and idk other “thug” themes (I can’t think of anymore) in the music. And if it were white kids listening to “thug” music and telling him off, he wouldn’t have done a thing. He would have thought “they’re just dumb kids.”
Where I live everyone carry’s guns around. I am white and I blast rap music with the windows down all the time. No one has ever perceived me as a threat. These kids do the same thing and they get shot for it. This world is disgusting.

@Robert Gaudet Were they shooting at him? 🤨

@Robert Gaudet Were they shooting at him? 🤨

What if they are shooting at you as they drive away?

What if they are shooting at you as they drive away?

yeah, better carry a handbook of what's lawful and what bites your *ss in every stressful situation.

yeah, better carry a handbook of what's lawful and what bites your *ss in every stressful situation.

@Carlin Pendleton there was no shooter! You missed that?

@Carlin Pendleton there was no shooter! You missed that?

@Linus Karlsson And you're offended by music? why are you so scared of anything thats not a white person?

@Linus Karlsson And you're offended by music? why are you so scared of anything thats not a white person?

@Linus Karlsson dude, why do you hate everyone whos not white?

@Linus Karlsson dude, why do you hate everyone whos not white?

@Omniferous Swan I didnt murder any kids ;-;

@Omniferous Swan I didnt murder any kids ;-;

You ain't lying,, that's exactly what it is,, well he say he shit the door because he felt afraid for his life,,, his mind is not like ours😁🤣😂🤣😂, he different🤦🤷🤣😂

You ain't lying,, that's exactly what it is,, well he say he shit the door because he felt afraid for his life,,, his mind is not like ours😁🤣😂🤣😂, he different🤦🤷🤣😂

Well, to be fair, bullets can still be fired out of a car in reverse and moving away from you.  Problem is, all the boys did was verbally threaten Dunn so there's no evidence to justify him shooting into the car unlike Drejka who was violently pushed off his feet and unable to flee with his assailant standing over him.

Well, to be fair, bullets can still be fired out of a car in reverse and moving away from you.  Problem is, all the boys did was verbally threaten Dunn so there's no evidence to justify him shooting into the car unlike Drejka who was violently pushed off his feet and unable to flee with his assailant standing over him.

@Carlin Pendleton Facts…but he completely overreacted…just saying. Def agree though

@Carlin Pendleton Facts…but he completely overreacted…just saying. Def agree though

@YourStepMother yeah and I would be angry also..

@YourStepMother yeah and I would be angry also..

@Macalia Erickson totally agree with your first comment ! Why he open his mounth just for music. Music ! Something who make people happy. And it's not like he would stay somes hours at the gas station, this is a public place where he came just for wine, so 5 mn, 10mn...if he felt bothered he can go...

@Macalia Erickson totally agree with your first comment ! Why he open his mounth just for music. Music ! Something who make people happy. And it's not like he would stay somes hours at the gas station, this is a public place where he came just for wine, so 5 mn, 10mn...if he felt bothered he can go...

@Jordan Wade hmm.. even when the driver is a different person from the one actively shooting at you? I don’t think so. I mean it’d be a tricky tangly mess in court but… idk- I will say, it’s an interesting hypothetical..

@Jordan Wade hmm.. even when the driver is a different person from the one actively shooting at you? I don’t think so. I mean it’d be a tricky tangly mess in court but… idk- I will say, it’s an interesting hypothetical..

@Carlin Pendleton false. Luckily stand your ground laws have especially detailed clauses for firing into a vehicle and what constitutes both aggression and appropriate retaliatory force. So in conclusion it's hard to claim self defense when you're firing into a vehicle driving away from you.

@Carlin Pendleton false. Luckily stand your ground laws have especially detailed clauses for firing into a vehicle and what constitutes both aggression and appropriate retaliatory force. So in conclusion it's hard to claim self defense when you're firing into a vehicle driving away from you.

@Linus Karlsson I think it's suffice to say that admitting to being "slightly" racist makes you look bad enough on its own.

@Linus Karlsson I think it's suffice to say that admitting to being "slightly" racist makes you look bad enough on its own.

Watching far to much csi Miami lol or bad boys

Watching far to much csi Miami lol or bad boys

@Linus Karlsson you admit ur racist that’s all we had to hear for why ur defending a racists terrible actions

@Linus Karlsson you admit ur racist that’s all we had to hear for why ur defending a racists terrible actions

Even harder when they drive away and then you get out of your card to shoot 4 more times

Even harder when they drive away and then you get out of your card to shoot 4 more times

@Linus Karlsson "i am slightly racist." Discussion over lol.

@Linus Karlsson "i am slightly racist." Discussion over lol.

@Linus Karlsson found the racist, jesus christ. Since when is loud music a threat? You’ve seriously never blasted music in the car with your friends when you were young? They’re kids. That’s what kids do. They’re only threatening if you’re afraid of black men.

@Linus Karlsson found the racist, jesus christ. Since when is loud music a threat? You’ve seriously never blasted music in the car with your friends when you were young? They’re kids. That’s what kids do. They’re only threatening if you’re afraid of black men.

@Marius Acripina are you that naive to believe its the “rap music” he was threatened by? iMy point is the term thug had nothing to do with music, nothing to do with mannerisms. Its their skin color. He was threatened by their black skin. He doesnt like black people and his girlfriend knew it.

@Marius Acripina are you that naive to believe its the “rap music” he was threatened by? iMy point is the term thug had nothing to do with music, nothing to do with mannerisms. Its their skin color. He was threatened by their black skin. He doesnt like black people and his girlfriend knew it.

@Linus Karlsson no offense to your headass comment but no one knows what type of music they’re listening. For all we know they could’ve blasted some drake

@Linus Karlsson no offense to your headass comment but no one knows what type of music they’re listening. For all we know they could’ve blasted some drake

@Linus Karlsson "thug music" he says. ignorant.

@Linus Karlsson "thug music" he says. ignorant.

@Linus Karlsson So you believe that they posed a threat because they are black teens in a car blasting music? Well I think this man is lying because that's what majority of racist white middle aged men do when harming someone. From my personal experience I fully believe he is 100% lying😊

@Linus Karlsson So you believe that they posed a threat because they are black teens in a car blasting music? Well I think this man is lying because that's what majority of racist white middle aged men do when harming someone. From my personal experience I fully believe he is 100% lying😊

@Linus Karlsson So black people are capable of threatening people because they are playing loud music? 🤨

@Linus Karlsson So black people are capable of threatening people because they are playing loud music? 🤨

@Linus Karlsson It was probably rap. Rap is not "thug music", it's a genre ppl enjoy. If he didn't like it, def could've moved the car to a different spot. Also, music does not always correlate with personality. I doubt they were genuinely threathening, he was just pissed some kids told him off. If he genuinely thought they were a threat and found out there really was no threat later, he would've been distraught that he just killed an innocent kid. He wasn't, showed no remorse, and kept trying to justify his actions. He deserves everything coming to him.

@Linus Karlsson You can believe they are capable of threatening someone, that doesnt mean they did. Independent witnesses said they didn't. He killed him, had no justifiable defense.

@Linus Karlsson You can believe they are capable of threatening someone, that doesnt mean they did. Independent witnesses said they didn't. He killed him, had no justifiable defense.

@Linus Karlsson it doesn't matter what the kids were listening. They could be listening to Satan music 🎶. One doesn't have the right to tell people what to do. If one doesn't like what others are doing, one can always leave. In this case, this guy ordered the kids to lower the music 🎶 because he was prejudiced towards the kids for their race. They lowered the volume, however, they realized the position of power he spoke, and said no to him by increasing the volume back up. He got angry and acted on his assumed position of power with violence and lethality.

@YourStepMother people feel threatened when others respond to your request that way. It may be unfounded but that's how people feel. Language, disrespect, etc. I didn't mean feel like your life was threatened, so apology if you took it that way. That part was invented by the perpetrator. Clearly a lie, and the trial exposed this as you pointed out.

@Linus Karlsson lmfao "thug music" wtf does that mean , also i'm sure he started the engagement because he had a gun so he felt safe and have no doubt on using it after the minimum threat (which was turning up the music)

@Linus Karlsson lmfao "thug music" wtf does that mean , also i'm sure he started the engagement because he had a gun so he felt safe and have no doubt on using it after the minimum threat (which was turning up the music)

@Mak there are soft people out. Not everyones in the army. Once I was comming home from work doing wheelies on my bicycles. Moved out of the of a car since it was a narrow street this was in UK and the guys thought I was stealing car parts. Did not have anything on me except for a small man purse? Got punched by one of them other tried to steal my phone but the others said no. What did I do wrong?   It was in the night like 3am. And its not exatcly the music that scares me its more if a, them cursing at me while doing the opposite.

Id argue its ok to shoot if they tryd to kill you, but your right, and he probable was just mad

Id argue its ok to shoot if they tryd to kill you, but your right, and he probable was just mad

@Linus Karlsson "A bit" is a wild understatement

@Linus Karlsson "A bit" is a wild understatement

@Enomikas If you feel threatened by loud rap music you're soft.

@Enomikas If you feel threatened by loud rap music you're soft.

@Dad He literally tried to say that black people oppress him lmfao!

@Dad He literally tried to say that black people oppress him lmfao!

@Linus Karlsson You literally just said you don't like them because of their skin colour--

@Linus Karlsson You literally just said you don't like them because of their skin colour--

i'm not saying that his innocent, or anyone had a gun besides him.<br>but if his story was true, the driver and shooter were two different person, so someone shooting your shooter, is a pretty reasonable to drive away.

i'm not saying that his innocent, or anyone had a gun besides him.
but if his story was true, the driver and shooter were two different person, so someone shooting your shooter, is a pretty reasonable to drive away.

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@Linus Karlsson You've done a great job of making yourself look bad all on your own

@Linus Karlsson You've done a great job of making yourself look bad all on your own

@Kai Pierre And the 'thug music' remark--

@Kai Pierre And the 'thug music' remark--

@Linus Karlsson You've got some racism to work through.

@Linus Karlsson You've got some racism to work through.

that's his road man, he's gotta defend his road

that's his road man, he's gotta defend his road

@S. H. The person literally states themselves that they're racist so yeah

@S. H. The person literally states themselves that they're racist so yeah

@Carlin Pendleton what shooter exactly? Wtf.

@Carlin Pendleton what shooter exactly? Wtf.

@Linus Karlsson “black people” idk if you noticed but teenagers of all races behave like them racist

@Linus Karlsson “black people” idk if you noticed but teenagers of all races behave like them racist

@Linus Karlsson this was completely unnecessary. Anything could potentially be threatening. Also pretty disgusting that you’re defending him at all.

@Linus Karlsson this was completely unnecessary. Anything could potentially be threatening. Also pretty disgusting that you’re defending him at all.

@Macalia Erickson im all over the place? Ok lady you clearly didn't read my posts. Hope you have a great life.

@Macalia Erickson im all over the place? Ok lady you clearly didn't read my posts. Hope you have a great life.

@Linus Karlsson the only reason people are bringing up the music being a threat is because your original statement says that. The entire point that others have been arguing with you is that he’s a male Karen who got couldn’t mind his business and got involved. None of the comments you made have stated this at all and you keep canceling out your previous statements.  Please pick an argument and stick with it cause you’re all over the place. This is hilarious and I hope you have a good one.

@Macalia Erickson i bet every penny i have ever owned you sometimes judge based on skin color.
And stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
And once again, whats up with you all thinking its the music being the threat? How many comments have i recieved now saying "how is loud music a threat", its stupid. He probably approached the care because he is a male karen and wanted to express his concern with loud music, but i wouldn't know because im not him.
Nothing i argued makes sense? How sad.

@Macalia Erickson They don't have to turn down the music its more of a polite thing to do.

@Macalia Erickson They don't have to turn down the music its more of a polite thing to do.

@Linus Karlsson considering you have been arguing in these comments for a few months now, it seems you need to consider calming down. As for me, I do not judge people based on their skin tone considering many times, stereotypes are incorrect and personal experiences do not speak for the majority. As for the boys, it looks like even the police didn’t buy the idea of self defense so I’m not sure why you’re so invested in that. Can you explain why Dunn approached the car to begin with if he was so threatened by the music. Do you normally approach things that scare you? Nothing you’ve argued makes sense.

@Enomikas I don’t think the teenagers response was appropriate either however, as I said previously, they didn’t owe Dunn anything. I will never understand expecting people to do things for you when you don’t know them.

@Enomikas I don’t think the teenagers response was appropriate either however, as I said previously, they didn’t owe Dunn anything. I will never understand expecting people to do things for you when you don’t know them.

@Troodon good to know. Thanks for the info.

@Troodon good to know. Thanks for the info.

@Linus Karlsson What threat?  Eventual hearing loss?  That's not a justification for self defense.

@Linus Karlsson What threat?  Eventual hearing loss?  That's not a justification for self defense.

@Linus Karlsson no, you wrote that as well as calling their music "thug music"...how did loud music turn into thug music? 🤔

@Linus Karlsson no, you wrote that as well as calling their music "thug music"...how did loud music turn into thug music? 🤔

@Enomikas Exactly. People in this thread are acting as if they wouldn't even feel the slightest bit of trepidation when a car full of young men are blaring music and then get lippy when you ask them to turn it down.

@Enomikas Exactly. People in this thread are acting as if they wouldn't even feel the slightest bit of trepidation when a car full of young men are blaring music and then get lippy when you ask them to turn it down.

@Macalia Erickson I don't think people should get mad for asking to turn your music down. If you start cursing them just for that you should rethink your upbringing. And do you know what separates us from animals? we can talk and communicate. Look I'm not saying shooting was the right thing to do, heck no, he should go to jail. But if you start cursing at me for something as simple as that, I wouldn't want anything to do with you. There are people that shoot people for looking at them wrong. I don't want anything to do with you if you start yelling at me for something as stupid as music.

@Linus Karlsson Disrespect isn't a threat. No one deserves respect. Only their bodies.

@Linus Karlsson Disrespect isn't a threat. No one deserves respect. Only their bodies.

@Macalia Erickson look. My original comment was never meany to insinuate he was doing the right thing or anything right at all. All i meant to say was ye, black kids acting disrespectful, listening to this kind of music in a group fits very well into the stereotype and also my experience of ppl who are capable to threaten someone. Thats it. And yeah i already admitted to being racist. Im sure you are too, towards whites, in some degree. As i already stated in like a million replies, i don't, and never would; go around and act racist towards black ppl. Never in my life have i used violence, and never will. But i see stereotypes as true for most of the times, and its true that also makes me racist. Now calm down.

@Linus Karlsson the way that you claim you’ve experienced racism and harassment while also being racist yourself by playing into stereotypes is so hypocritical and lacks self awareness. Dunn could’ve easily just minded his business and not gotten involved if he was so “threatened” by “thug” music. This isn’t a defense considering he put himself in the position for confrontation. He initially approached them according to his own story.

@Enomikas I think my question is more why he felt the need to open his mouth in the first place?? It’s so easy to just kind your business or move your car. Nobody owes anybody anything just for your personal comfort. Why is this even an argument?

@Enomikas I think my question is more why he felt the need to open his mouth in the first place?? It’s so easy to just kind your business or move your car. Nobody owes anybody anything just for your personal comfort. Why is this even an argument?

@S. H. im not a little boy, and im also not insulted by you trying to imply im childish. And yes, english isn't my native language, so im aware its far from perfect. But i also know i write well enough for you to understand everything i write perfectly well.

Anything else?

@S. H. im not a little boy, and im also not insulted by you trying to imply im childish. And yes, english isn't my native language, so im aware its far from perfect. But i also know i write well enough for you to understand everything i write perfectly well.

Anything else?

@Linus Karlsson you can imagine them threatening HIM, but if that counted as justification for his actions, you could get away with anything as long as it felt okay in your own mind.

@Linus Karlsson you can imagine them threatening HIM, but if that counted as justification for his actions, you could get away with anything as long as it felt okay in your own mind.

@thepants1450 why? it's perfectly natural.

@thepants1450 why? it's perfectly natural.

@Marius Acripina I do not believe he did, he felt he was in danger

@Marius Acripina I do not believe he did, he felt he was in danger

@Almira Izumchensky I am racis, I don't care do not address me again. Thank you

@Almira Izumchensky I am racis, I don't care do not address me again. Thank you

@Marius Acripina you can actually generalize it to the point that we all are apes, we all breathe and we all die someday. What you are trying to do here, is to attach nationalism, or patriotism, to racism. Loving your own culture and prefer it over others is not equal to hate, disregard, discriminate another race and view it as not deserving to exist which actual racism is hence this word. There is no scale that expressing your love to your own race would mean eradicate other human beings that do not belong to that. Just because we are all animals at some degree, it does not mean being a rapist is just a maximum scale of expression of someone's love to sex. It's simply viewed as a psychological flaw, defect, ugliness in our world of humans. Yes we have ugly, we have sick people. That we punish or treat in specific places. Now systematic racism has become like an Overton window, that allowed a lot of people to express their ugliness where there was an opportunity. Does it mean it was normal? No. But for sure, some ugly people could use their twisted nature to torture someone while not being prosecuted. Many got the opportunity, while there still were many who never was supporter of that. American Civil War is a great example. Some people were just not ok with what was happening. Funny how you would justify systemic racism of Nazi Germans, all of them would who would burn people, who are not enough Aryas, in gas chambers. They for sure loved their own race! And in my family, almost all of my great-grand fathers left to war  and died to save us all from "people who express their preference to their own culture to the biggest scale", as you would call it? 26+ millions from my country died in that war, and that number is an understatement. People from all around the world remember their grandparents, dads, mothers - who were hanged, lynched, burned, shot just a century ago, sometimes less, because someone....expressed preference to their own race to a bigger degree? if you relate this to your generalized point about us all being having instincts by our psychology - I feel sorry for you.  It's been quite some time since people started globalizing, coexisting civilly. Children see no skill color. They play with each other. Those hateful agendas are being put into our minds by someone else.

@Linus Karlsson yeah i kept reading your comments and decided you’re a tad bit prejudice if not downright racist.

You should look in the mirror before casting stones .

@Linus Karlsson yeah i kept reading your comments and decided you’re a tad bit prejudice if not downright racist.

You should look in the mirror before casting stones .

@Linus Karlsson little boy that can hardly formulate a sentence. Trying ever so hard to convince the YT comment section he knows what he’s talking about.😂

@Linus Karlsson little boy that can hardly formulate a sentence. Trying ever so hard to convince the YT comment section he knows what he’s talking about.😂

@Almira Izumchensky We are all racist. Every single person on planet earth is a racist with no exception. You may not express it ever or have no racist thought in your life. But psychology tells us that it is human nature to prefer people who look similar to us (therefore people of the same race) to people who do not (therefore people of other races).
In which scale we express our racism or if we express it at all is subjective, but per definition you and me and every other person is a racist. This is not an opinion, it's psychology.
So starting your argument by saying that his arguments are invalid for the reason he is biased is simply put illogical. We are all biased. You as well. You might tell yourself that you are not but you are. It is in your nature.

@Reuel Naresh Dude you can't offend someone who calls himself a racist by calling him a racist. Is that so hard to understand people.

@Reuel Naresh Dude you can't offend someone who calls himself a racist by calling him a racist. Is that so hard to understand people.

@Amber Bela Muse I am not on his side here, but he clarified that he feels threatened by black people listening to rap. So no, he probably would not think you are a thug if you were listening to classic music.

@Amber Bela Muse I am not on his side here, but he clarified that he feels threatened by black people listening to rap. So no, he probably would not think you are a thug if you were listening to classic music.

@Daelyn Miller He already stated himself that he is. He is immune to your racist card.

@Daelyn Miller He already stated himself that he is. He is immune to your racist card.

@John Smith He definitely did deserve Prison.

@John Smith He definitely did deserve Prison.

@avocado on toast w/egg and bacon He already said himself that he is kinda racist.Do you think he cares if you call him one ? The word is starting to lose its power and meaning which while sad is probably necessary.

@avocado on toast w/egg and bacon He already said himself that he is kinda racist.Do you think he cares if you call him one ? The word is starting to lose its power and meaning which while sad is probably necessary.

@Linus Karlsson Ok, thanks for telling us. You are allowed to have a wrong sense of judgement just don't wonder when you're going to prison for 90 years because you are unable to judge a situation right and open fire on black teenagers, for listening to their "thug" music.

@Linus Karlsson Ok, thanks for telling us. You are allowed to have a wrong sense of judgement just don't wonder when you're going to prison for 90 years because you are unable to judge a situation right and open fire on black teenagers, for listening to their "thug" music.

@Linus Karlsson it’s only cus they’re black white ppl also bump rap music at high volumes

@Linus Karlsson it’s only cus they’re black white ppl also bump rap music at high volumes

@Linus Karlsson Except that's an implication that's far greater than the one you made, where you associated 'thug' with 'music' with 'threat'. Learn degrees of inferences and understand logical implications before you claim to see flaws.

@Linus Karlsson Except that's an implication that's far greater than the one you made, where you associated 'thug' with 'music' with 'threat'. Learn degrees of inferences and understand logical implications before you claim to see flaws.

@Zstead one if i tell you a murderer killed with a jumping rope, it doesn't automaticlly make him an athlete. So your logic was incredibly flawed.

@Zstead one if i tell you a murderer killed with a jumping rope, it doesn't automaticlly make him an athlete. So your logic was incredibly flawed.

@Linus Karlsson From the verbatim reading of your comment, the qualifier 'thug' is applied to the word 'music'. Therefore, it is safe to conclude that you meant the music. That's what's called reading comprehension- when you analyze meaning out of what is written. Just because you had some other meaning in your head and were too stupid to be able to convey it clearly doesn't mean everyone else lacks reading comprehension, you just either made a stupid mistake or are afraid of admitting the point.

@Linus Karlsson I don't hold back on racism as well, I'm just saying I have reasons to be racist too based on my experience, but I didn't become one. I agree with you it's sometimes even seems popular to be openly shaming white peoples racism and the nation itself here in America for bad things they did in the past for other people. I always felt awkward when I heard something like this, sometimes from my own white professors at college, who would say "what can we do to change our privilege?" xDD. But I have not seen it to this point in other countries I've lived or studied to. I believe it's in a way same situation as with Holocaust - more time needed to pass before people get settled on slavery and Nazis and it won't be relevant anymore. And you are right, overall the majority of black people at least in America I meet, seem to be looking to the future more than to the past.

@Zstead one yeah thats the part about reading comprehension. Was my focus on the music itself, or their mannerism? You clearly lack skills in reading comprehension since you think my issue was the dB of the music.

@Zstead one yeah thats the part about reading comprehension. Was my focus on the music itself, or their mannerism? You clearly lack skills in reading comprehension since you think my issue was the dB of the music.

@Slimekin Joe depends. Less likely, but still very plausible. If they act disrespectful  and agitated towards me, then yes.

@Slimekin Joe depends. Less likely, but still very plausible. If they act disrespectful  and agitated towards me, then yes.

@The Puppet Head i know what rap music is. But calling it thug music seem more appropiate.

@The Puppet Head i know what rap music is. But calling it thug music seem more appropiate.

@DeToxcc Zebra because Michael lied about seeing a shotgun. And he lied about the conversation which was way shorter then he described according to independent witnesses. He contradicted himself there was loud music yet he heard every word they supposedly said to each other in the car. Then he sees a gun pointed at him and instead of hiding to avoid being shot, he opens up goes to the gun comes out of the car and starts blasting. Does it look logical to you and in accordance with his version of events? Not for everyone else, hence the defense failed to prove he was thinking he was in immediate danger. He didn't call 911, he didn't say to his fiancé a word about the gun yet said everything else, no proof of his words later whatsoever. He needed to have an excuse for that many bullets that's where all of those "rear seat passenger" and a shotgun came from. He was drunk and lost control from rage. btw, on everyone not saying he is racist, here is his neighbor evaluation/recollection what he was saying: https://floridajustice.com/michaeldunn, 18:51 timestamp

@Linus Karlsson thug music? are you kidding me? Whole nations of teenagers nowadays do listen to rap music that you call "thug"? Who the hell he is to tell them what to do? Maybe he said it in a threatening manner? He was drunk and rude. He actually created the threat himself by coming to their car and threatening them for listening to the music loudly. It never should justify his lies about being threatened.

I live in an affluent neighborhood. I see white kids blasting “thug music” all the time but, they are not considered thugs right!? It’s just cool when they do it...smh 😒

I live in an affluent neighborhood. I see white kids blasting “thug music” all the time but, they are not considered thugs right!? It’s just cool when they do it...smh 😒

@Linus Karlsson would you feel threatened if they were white tho? Lmaaooo

@Linus Karlsson would you feel threatened if they were white tho? Lmaaooo

@Linus Karlsson I kinda do get what you are trying to say. Dunno what these clowns above me getting mad about.
There is definitely some thug music and you can feel threatened, not to the points of shooting but sure. And if you listen to the video which I guess people didn't do they did threaten him with words wow huh? what? they threatened him? Ye in video they do say that.
Like imagine you ask someone to turn down the music they do, then they turn it back on and they start cursing at you. You feel somewhat unsafe and then you leave that area.

Let's put everyone from any race into a box and hate anyone with that color skin because of it. Believe that anyone of a certain race couldn't possibly be any other way or think any other way then a preconceived notion. The spread of this belief in this country is rapid. It is sickening.

Let's put everyone from any race into a box and hate anyone with that color skin because of it. Believe that anyone of a certain race couldn't possibly be any other way or think any other way then a preconceived notion. The spread of this belief in this country is rapid. It is sickening.

@Linus Karlsson weird how you seemingly know what a strawman argument is but not the right name for rap music,you'd have to have some pretty serious blinders on to not at least know the term "hip hop".

@Linus Karlsson weird how you seemingly know what a strawman argument is but not the right name for rap music,you'd have to have some pretty serious blinders on to not at least know the term "hip hop".

@Linus Karlsson call it "thug music" and you sound just like him.

@Linus Karlsson call it "thug music" and you sound just like him.

@Linus Karlsson What is 'thug music', rap music with controversial themes? It seems like the only way to lend credibility to Dunn's thought processes is to pretend that rap music and black children is/are intimidating which is EXTREMELY subjective considering how popular the music is among people of all races and cultures.

Honestly, people like Dunn demonstrate that they do not have the capacity to evaluate what constitutes a threat due to his personal beliefs about people who do not look and act like them.

@Linus Karlsson I'm curious why you didnt just say "people playing loud music is a threat" in spite of saying "black people playing loud music is a threat".

@Linus Karlsson I'm curious why you didnt just say "people playing loud music is a threat" in spite of saying "black people playing loud music is a threat".

@Linus Karlsson "To be fair, black ppl listening to thug music that was turned down, just to abruptly turned up again was very likely to show "no bruh, you dont tell us what to do". I can see that they posed a threat to the man."<br>Interested to see how you can spin that one into not implying that playing loud music is a threat, Mr. Reading Comprehension. That's almost a verbatim reading of your words my guy lol

@Linus Karlsson "To be fair, black ppl listening to thug music that was turned down, just to abruptly turned up again was very likely to show "no bruh, you dont tell us what to do". I can see that they posed a threat to the man."
Interested to see how you can spin that one into not implying that playing loud music is a threat, Mr. Reading Comprehension. That's almost a verbatim reading of your words my guy lol

@Linus Karlsson you afraid of people who listen to biggie

@Linus Karlsson you afraid of people who listen to biggie

People in comments trying to defend him 🤦

People in comments trying to defend him 🤦

@Linus Karlsson Clearly Mr. Dunn posed more of a threat to those kids listening to the "thug music" than they posed to him

@Linus Karlsson Clearly Mr. Dunn posed more of a threat to those kids listening to the "thug music" than they posed to him

I don’t blame him, where im from you can get killed for simply bumping on someone on the train, forget about when them popeys chicken sandwiches came out lmfaooo you never know with these people

I don’t blame him, where im from you can get killed for simply bumping on someone on the train, forget about when them popeys chicken sandwiches came out lmfaooo you never know with these people

@Linus Karlsson you wouldn’t say that if it was Taylor swift lmao

@Linus Karlsson you wouldn’t say that if it was Taylor swift lmao

@Linus Karlsson How would you know they even could pose a threat or were potentionally dangerous? You do not know those people. You are literally basing that they were dangerous just off of the color of their skin. Literally few teenagers listening to loud music are in you eyes dangerous because they are black. That's not a solid argument, it's very much your biased opinion based on stereotypes and apparently the things that happened to you in the past. But you definetely shouldn't generalise people based on their skin colour or other traits especially when it comes singular cases.

@Linus Karlsson They didn't owe him any respect after he rudely confronted them about music. Regardless, disrespect does not equal a threat or "capable to threat" whatever that means. Based on your comments It sounds like you're "threatened" by the mere presence of black men.

@Linus Karlsson They didn't owe him any respect after he rudely confronted them about music. Regardless, disrespect does not equal a threat or "capable to threat" whatever that means. Based on your comments It sounds like you're "threatened" by the mere presence of black men.

@Josianne Ash or cops never found it .because we know how inept the police are.

@Josianne Ash or cops never found it .because we know how inept the police are.

@Linus Karlsson

Listening to music is disrespectful?
Since when?
They were just enjoying their lives
They were kids!!! Teenagers!!!

@Linus Karlsson

Listening to music is disrespectful?
Since when?
They were just enjoying their lives
They were kids!!! Teenagers!!!

You can’t shoot when the perp is fleeing, you can get nailed for that easily. Bad idea 100% of the time

You can’t shoot when the perp is fleeing, you can get nailed for that easily. Bad idea 100% of the time

@Dionis Herrera i would. I definitely 100% would

@Dionis Herrera i would. I definitely 100% would

@Linus Karlsson If you stop at a gas station, mall, public parking, ect, and sombody is playing loud music. Why t.f don't you move your f car away from them if it bothers you.

@Linus Karlsson If you stop at a gas station, mall, public parking, ect, and sombody is playing loud music. Why t.f don't you move your f car away from them if it bothers you.

@Ioan Jeffrey but i am a victim. And no, i wouldn't dare express any racist word. Im too much of a coward for that. Its more their behavior i judge them by, as i have already said plenty of times. but in the end its the whole situation. He was definitely overeaggerating. And he killed someone. Its terrible.

@Ioan Jeffrey but i am a victim. And no, i wouldn't dare express any racist word. Im too much of a coward for that. Its more their behavior i judge them by, as i have already said plenty of times. but in the end its the whole situation. He was definitely overeaggerating. And he killed someone. Its terrible.

@Linus Karlsson stop your victim complex.I can tell from your previous comments that you probably were being a racist and then they retaliated.You just admitted in your previous comment that you are a racist!You judge black people if they play “thug music”.You are the definition of a racist.And the man was clearly over exaggerating and lying.We can clearly see this from him lying about the barrel sticking out the window so it is clear he lied about other things.Stop being a racist and be quiet.

Also real hard to claim someone would use a shotgun at a distance especially driving away.

Also real hard to claim someone would use a shotgun at a distance especially driving away.

@KhizDidIt well, everyone aren't born and live in some nice suburban utopia. Some of us live in places where the black neighbour, Mr. Robinsson, is a super nice guy. Some of us deal with being victim of oppression, harrassment and racism from blacks on a daily basis. Where they all listen to thug music and act accordingly to this mans description hard to believe huh? Im not stupid, i know ppl are not evil because they have a dark skin color. But from my experience, if i see black ppl that listen to that kind of music, and act disrespectful, i have to watch out.

@Jay b yes, thats the only thing i wrote in my entire post, right? Way to cherry pick just to make some selfrighteous spewing. I don't need you you agree with me. I have my own experience. If i find it possible that they are ppl who COULD threath somone base on their culture and behavior, then you gotta accept that. I never said the DID threat him at all actually.

@Linus Karlsson so listening to “thug” music automatically poses you as a potential threat when you play it too loud??? lord, make it make sense....

@Linus Karlsson so listening to “thug” music automatically poses you as a potential threat when you play it too loud??? lord, make it make sense....

@Linus Karlsson lol you shouldn’t be in this comment section if you’re “slightly racist”. I hope you’re very proud of that tho.

@Linus Karlsson lol you shouldn’t be in this comment section if you’re “slightly racist”. I hope you’re very proud of that tho.

@Linus Karlsson “black people listen to thug music?” lol my dad is a die hard Bruce Springsteen fan... he blasts that all day long. He’s black. Is that thug music? Oh and I listen to classical music because i play classical guitar. Am I a thug? Oh I am black as well. Try again to not sound completely racist.

@Linus Karlsson “black people listen to thug music?” lol my dad is a die hard Bruce Springsteen fan... he blasts that all day long. He’s black. Is that thug music? Oh and I listen to classical music because i play classical guitar. Am I a thug? Oh I am black as well. Try again to not sound completely racist.

@Linus Karlsson oh, I had no idea my mistake I suppose.

@Linus Karlsson oh, I had no idea my mistake I suppose.

@Ango Gablogian you know its not me in the clip, right?

@Ango Gablogian you know its not me in the clip, right?

@Linus Karlsson If someone were playing loud music, why interact with them to begin with like this gentleman did?

@Linus Karlsson If someone were playing loud music, why interact with them to begin with like this gentleman did?

@Linus Karlsson Lmfaooo someone had to do a little back tracking.

@Linus Karlsson Lmfaooo someone had to do a little back tracking.

@Ango Gablogian why are you asking me that?

@Ango Gablogian why are you asking me that?

@Linus Karlsson why pull up next to the loud music in the first place?

@Linus Karlsson why pull up next to the loud music in the first place?

@AfricanBeard since i stereotype blacks, i suppose i am a racist per se. However i don't dislike someone solely by skincolor. The guys in the clip for example, i wouldn't hold a grudge against them. But i would not interract with them because my experience says they potentially mean trouble. Do you see the difference?

@AfricanBeard since i stereotype blacks, i suppose i am a racist per se. However i don't dislike someone solely by skincolor. The guys in the clip for example, i wouldn't hold a grudge against them. But i would not interract with them because my experience says they potentially mean trouble. Do you see the difference?

duck  sropducks stop responding to him. Hes obviously a racist. They lack common sense. Happy new year.

duck  sropducks stop responding to him. Hes obviously a racist. They lack common sense. Happy new year.

@High as duck so their lives are mainly about drugs and gang life. So there you have it. There is no point arguing about it.

@High as duck so their lives are mainly about drugs and gang life. So there you have it. There is no point arguing about it.

@Linus Karlsson i'm pretty sure rappers rap about their lives, and sex. And no, sex is not thug culture. everybody has that

@Linus Karlsson i'm pretty sure rappers rap about their lives, and sex. And no, sex is not thug culture. everybody has that

@High as duck well, rap songs lyrics are generally about thug culture, no?

@High as duck well, rap songs lyrics are generally about thug culture, no?

@Linus Karlsson the fact you unironically call it thug music says a lot...

@Linus Karlsson the fact you unironically call it thug music says a lot...

@Linus Karlsson you would feel anxious around them why exactly? They’re teenagers who listen to loud music that doesn’t seem very threatening or are u threatened just because they’re black? Because that is certainly what it seems like lmao when will u people learn that the color of someone’s skin does not make them threatening 🙄

@Linus Karlsson just say you're racist and go

@Linus Karlsson just say you're racist and go

@Linus Karlsson yo listening to river dance music doesn’t make me start clogging bro wtf does thug music even mean. Y’all are so.....clearly the problem. That entire mentality was his he went in the situation and it shows

@Linus Karlsson yo listening to river dance music doesn’t make me start clogging bro wtf does thug music even mean. Y’all are so.....clearly the problem. That entire mentality was his he went in the situation and it shows

@Carlin Pendleton (sorry for my tardiness lol) but in a normal case I 100% agree, obviously in this case no one in that car had a gun or actually showed one.

@Carlin Pendleton (sorry for my tardiness lol) but in a normal case I 100% agree, obviously in this case no one in that car had a gun or actually showed one.

@Linus Karlsson so you can imagine them threatening him because of how they behaved? You weren’t even there. They didn’t even threaten him, this is made clear in the video.

@Linus Karlsson so you can imagine them threatening him because of how they behaved? You weren’t even there. They didn’t even threaten him, this is made clear in the video.

Unless they have an anti aircraft gun mounted on there car and its aimed at you

Unless they have an anti aircraft gun mounted on there car and its aimed at you

@John Smith a lot of people would have felt threatened in this situation. Most would not have felt like they needed to kill or be killed, however. Especially based on all the evidence presented.

And these actions absolutely deserve prison time.

@John Smith a lot of people would have felt threatened in this situation. Most would not have felt like they needed to kill or be killed, however. Especially based on all the evidence presented.

And these actions absolutely deserve prison time.

I would of felt threatened, what he did was wrong but he didn't deserve prison

I would of felt threatened, what he did was wrong but he didn't deserve prison

@Linus Karlsson I listen to “thug” music all time but can barely kill a insect stop trying to justify this he was wrong he had no reason to feel threatened

@Linus Karlsson I listen to “thug” music all time but can barely kill a insect stop trying to justify this he was wrong he had no reason to feel threatened

@Linus Karlsson WTF DID THEY HAVE TO RESPECT HIM FOR? He ain’t nobody respect is earned! All he had to do was get his fuckin wine and go tf home or to his hotel or wherever he was going!! All of this could’ve been avoided if he just minded his business and went home! They have every right to play music! YOURE MISSING THE POINT AND YOURE IN THIS MONSTERS DEFENSE!

@avocado on toast w/egg and bacon yes, lets pretend thats exactly how it is and what i said.

@avocado on toast w/egg and bacon yes, lets pretend thats exactly how it is and what i said.

@G Ham too loud music can be an offense you can be fined for, if its disturbing. So no, you can't be how loud you want.<br>Stop making a strawman. I never said loud music is a threat. What i meant was i can immagine them threatening him, judging by how they behaved.

@G Ham too loud music can be an offense you can be fined for, if its disturbing. So no, you can't be how loud you want.
Stop making a strawman. I never said loud music is a threat. What i meant was i can immagine them threatening him, judging by how they behaved.

@Linus Karlsson loud music=threat? Noone has a right to demand any music to be turned down in the parking lot of a gas station, and since we all know a kid was shot how is even arguing that they were a “threat” constructive?

@Linus Karlsson loud music=threat? Noone has a right to demand any music to be turned down in the parking lot of a gas station, and since we all know a kid was shot how is even arguing that they were a “threat” constructive?

@Kid’s World Entertainment dude, why do you hate white ppl?

@Kid’s World Entertainment dude, why do you hate white ppl?

@Linus Karlsson You can see how they posed a threat through personal experience, because you too also get scared of black people that play loud music. I just find it ironic that you’re actually trying to say something about a “straw man” when you’re sitting here trying to convince people that loud music is life threatening 😂😂😂

@Kid’s World Entertainment i litterally did not. I said i can see how they posed a threat. As in i find it believable that they thretened him. As i said, don't strawman.

@Kid’s World Entertainment i litterally did not. I said i can see how they posed a threat. As in i find it believable that they thretened him. As i said, don't strawman.

@Linus Karlsson But you literally said in your initial comments you did, so you wanna keep lying for the public to see?

@Linus Karlsson But you literally said in your initial comments you did, so you wanna keep lying for the public to see?

@Kid’s World Entertainment but i don't. Don't strawman, its stupid.

@Kid’s World Entertainment but i don't. Don't strawman, its stupid.

@Linus Karlsson Lmao if you feel threatened by that then you need to find another planet to live on

@Linus Karlsson Lmao if you feel threatened by that then you need to find another planet to live on

@Linus Karlsson But that doesnt prove they threatened him just cause "they seem like the type "

@Linus Karlsson But that doesnt prove they threatened him just cause "they seem like the type "

@Misti D well yeah he killed the kid, so ofc he is a murderer. And don't get me wrong, violence is not acceptable in any form. And there is no proof of them threatening him, so its a just verdict in that sense.

@Misti D well yeah he killed the kid, so ofc he is a murderer. And don't get me wrong, violence is not acceptable in any form. And there is no proof of them threatening him, so its a just verdict in that sense.

@Misti D yeah, based on their behavior connected to my personal experience, i definitely think they are the kind of ppl who are capable to threat someone.

@Misti D yeah, based on their behavior connected to my personal experience, i definitely think they are the kind of ppl who are capable to threat someone.

@Linus Karlsson You literally "I can see they posed a threat this man" in your original reply.

So please explain to me how they posed a threat.

@Linus Karlsson You literally "I can see they posed a threat this man" in your original reply.

So please explain to me how they posed a threat.

@S E B so many ppl reply saying "playing loud music isn't a threat". I NEVER SAID IT IS. Do you not read before you push "reply" or do you lack basic reading comprehension?

@S E B so many ppl reply saying "playing loud music isn't a threat". I NEVER SAID IT IS. Do you not read before you push "reply" or do you lack basic reading comprehension?

Linus Karlsson it’s annoying but NOT a threat. Unless someone on their side had flashed a gun at him or said something like “you’re DEAD” there would sort of be an argument of “self defense”

Linus Karlsson it’s annoying but NOT a threat. Unless someone on their side had flashed a gun at him or said something like “you’re DEAD” there would sort of be an argument of “self defense”

@Misti D you're putting words in my mouth to make me look bad. Don't do that.

@Misti D you're putting words in my mouth to make me look bad. Don't do that.

@Linus Karlsson...so blasting music is a threat...

Let everyone know not to annoy you then or you'll take it as a threat.

@Linus Karlsson...so blasting music is a threat...

Let everyone know not to annoy you then or you'll take it as a threat.

@Courier Black never said that. What i meant that kind of behavior makes me see that they are also capable of also threatening him. Never underestimate what a group of young men would do to show each other they are alpha.

@Courier Black never said that. What i meant that kind of behavior makes me see that they are also capable of also threatening him. Never underestimate what a group of young men would do to show each other they are alpha.

@Nicole first of all, assuming someone is a thug based on their behavior does not make me a racist.
Second, thug music isn't called that for nothing. So when younglings listen to thug music, and then act disrespectful, i can very well think they are also capable of threatening him. I never said they did do it. If they didn't then hell yes he was a cold blooded murderer. But non of us really know the whole truth.

Also, yes, i am slightly racist. And i have good reasons for it too. Not gonna give you my lifes story tho, nor do i expect you to understand or accept that. However i would never think harming ANYONE is ok except in clear self defense.

@Linus Karlsson Loud music is not a reason to murder people.

@Linus Karlsson Loud music is not a reason to murder people.

DeToxcc Zebra not true. For a criminal conviction, prosicution has the burden of proof. And its a high one 95% “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

With that being said. Claiming selfdefense in opening statement and then not giving attention to the matter whilst testifying would be inadvised.

DeToxcc Zebra not true. For a criminal conviction, prosicution has the burden of proof. And its a high one 95% “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

With that being said. Claiming selfdefense in opening statement and then not giving attention to the matter whilst testifying would be inadvised.

@Russian Bot #568984 great handle "Russian Bot" !<br>Wish I'd thought of that name

@Russian Bot #568984 great handle "Russian Bot" !
Wish I'd thought of that name

Carlin Pendleton Yeah, no that’s not how it works.

Carlin Pendleton Yeah, no that’s not how it works.

driving towards as the Earth is round and they was going the long way.

driving towards as the Earth is round and they was going the long way.

@Adam Gillespie Exactly. You're going to drive off in like 2 minutes anyway after his wife purchased the alcohol. That's why there's the notion of "picking your battles."

@Adam Gillespie Exactly. You're going to drive off in like 2 minutes anyway after his wife purchased the alcohol. That's why there's the notion of "picking your battles."

Linus Karlsson o don’t see how being to,d that others are not yours to command is a threat.

Linus Karlsson o don’t see how being to,d that others are not yours to command is a threat.

Not necessarily. If the kids were to shoot first and he shot after them and they took off, it could be because they got scared and wanted to flee the crime scene as to not get apprehended. We know this didn’t happen, but just as an example, your scenario isn’t necessarily true.

Not necessarily. If the kids were to shoot first and he shot after them and they took off, it could be because they got scared and wanted to flee the crime scene as to not get apprehended. We know this didn’t happen, but just as an example, your scenario isn’t necessarily true.

I a big fan of star wars rules for any and all gunplay. The first one to shoot is the criminal. Frame accurate.

I a big fan of star wars rules for any and all gunplay. The first one to shoot is the criminal. Frame accurate.

You can easily claim that, just like how you can claim that being shot twice in the back of the head is suicide. I can claim to be the Queen of England.

You can easily claim that, just like how you can claim that being shot twice in the back of the head is suicide. I can claim to be the Queen of England.

jjosephdubya do you think that it is possible that there was actually a gun in the car and that the teenagers got rid of it after the shooting?

jjosephdubya do you think that it is possible that there was actually a gun in the car and that the teenagers got rid of it after the shooting?

@DeToxcc Zebra if he thought he was in imminent danger he wouldn't have lied about the imagery weapon.. He would have spoken the truth.. He couldn't even get his lie straight..😒

@DeToxcc Zebra if he thought he was in imminent danger he wouldn't have lied about the imagery weapon.. He would have spoken the truth.. He couldn't even get his lie straight..😒

Linus Karlsson the fact that you specifically say “black people” in this statement shows that you’re a racist. putting it in the specific context of “well when they’re black they’re threatening” is the exact problem. it’s very sad to see that you think this way

Linus Karlsson the fact that you specifically say “black people” in this statement shows that you’re a racist. putting it in the specific context of “well when they’re black they’re threatening” is the exact problem. it’s very sad to see that you think this way

@jjosephdubya bruh your mad confused. No one is talking about this specific case or saying there was a gun. He literally only said that in a hypothetical situation you could claim self defense from a car moving away.

@jjosephdubya bruh your mad confused. No one is talking about this specific case or saying there was a gun. He literally only said that in a hypothetical situation you could claim self defense from a car moving away.

@Josianne Ash It doesn't matter whether or not they had a shotgun. The defense has to prove that Michael thought he was in imminent danger, and acted in selfdefense

@Josianne Ash It doesn't matter whether or not they had a shotgun. The defense has to prove that Michael thought he was in imminent danger, and acted in selfdefense

@jjosephdubya It does make sense. The passenger was the one that Michael said had a shotgun, not the driver. Michael says he shot the second volley of 4 bullets to keep their heads down. In his story, why couldn't the passenger try to shoot him as he's driving away?

@jjosephdubya It does make sense. The passenger was the one that Michael said had a shotgun, not the driver. Michael says he shot the second volley of 4 bullets to keep their heads down. In his story, why couldn't the passenger try to shoot him as he's driving away?

jjosephdubya I swear to god Mfers don’t even be saying shit just using words at random

jjosephdubya I swear to god Mfers don’t even be saying shit just using words at random

@jjosephdubya Of course it makes sense, you doofus. Not saying these kids did anything wrong, cause we know at this point that they didn't. But in a driveby, people drive away from the person they're shooting all the time, with the driver being separate from those doing the shooting.

@jjosephdubya Of course it makes sense, you doofus. Not saying these kids did anything wrong, cause we know at this point that they didn't. But in a driveby, people drive away from the person they're shooting all the time, with the driver being separate from those doing the shooting.

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@Linus Karlsson They're playing music, they're not remotely a threat 😂 & them turning up the music to say, "You don't tell us what to do" still does not classify them as a threat or being threatening.

@Linus Karlsson They're playing music, they're not remotely a threat 😂 & them turning up the music to say, "You don't tell us what to do" still does not classify them as a threat or being threatening.

@Linus Karlsson not a threat.he could have just moved his car to another location without even making eye contact.

@Linus Karlsson not a threat.he could have just moved his car to another location without even making eye contact.

@Russian Bot #568984 how the hell was they going kill him? They DIDN'T have a weapon!

@Russian Bot #568984 how the hell was they going kill him? They DIDN'T have a weapon!

depends if the other person showed a weapon imo but in this case the teens clearly didn’t try and cause trouble they were just playing loud music that pissed this guy off

depends if the other person showed a weapon imo but in this case the teens clearly didn’t try and cause trouble they were just playing loud music that pissed this guy off

Not really, the driver in control of the car is separated from the mentality of the shooter completely.

Not really, the driver in control of the car is separated from the mentality of the shooter completely.


i hope those boys and Rhonda are able to find peace after this… what an awful thing. may that man rot for trying to take innocent lives.


Even if he was “scared” he never once mentioned being worried about Rhonda getting hurt until he got on the stand. Very manipulative


Rhonda is such a sweetheart, she didn't deserve any of this and I hope she's found happiness


The crazy part about of this is if this guy had a decent lawyer from the start he beats this case fairly easily


He clearly has a lot of prejudice and suppressed hatred for young black men but the fact that it only took a few rum and cokes for him to murder one still blows my mind

We need to make hard drugs like alcohol illegal. Alcohol leads to murders, domestic violence, rapes, assaults, and more. Anyone who abused hard drugs in the past should be convicted to 10 years of forced labor in a private prison. 🌈


I, too, get annoyed when I hear kids playing obnoxiously loud music.  But instead of wanting to murder them, I simply think of Karma and how it is being visited upon me for doing THE EXACT SAME THING when I was a kid.  Please.  No one cares about whether or not you appreciate the quality or volume of the music playing from a teenager's car.  It's practically a rite of passage.

@Muskoka Mike no he didn't threaten him although u keep trying to say he did. Dunn was a murderer and had no reasont do what he did plain and simple.

@Muskoka MikeNice discussion.  Though we did not necessarily have a meeting of the minds, you kept the discourse mostly civil and hopefully, we both learned something in the process.

@Mosca Bianca LOL @ hero....you're funny and not in a stand up comedian sort of way.

BTW: I have faced the same situation and when someone threatened to kill me, I kicked their ass 6 ways from sunday.

Remember one thing: I never asserted that you can legally threaten the life of someone, that's all you!

@Muskoka Mike And if you are ever faced with the same set of circumstances that your hero faced and choose to behave in the same manner, trust that you will enjoy similar accommodations as Mr. Dunn now enjoys for the balance of your life.  Choose wisely.

@Mosca Bianca Once again, blah blah blah.

NO, your teenage heros did NOT have a right to utter threats at anyone. PERIOD.

Dunn couldn't have left, HIS FIANCE was still INSIDE lol

If YOU think you have a protected right to threaten someone, you're going to find yourself in jail at some point......

@Muskoka Mike That is not the case.   Dunn had an obligation under the stand your ground statute to retreat because it was possible for him to do so.  Not only did he choose not to retreat, he kept firing at his victims after they attempted to escape the hail of gunfire he rained down upon their vehicle.  Then he chose not to call the police. Then he chose to drive out of the jurisdiction the following morning.  Then he chose to lie to investigators.  Beyond that, there was no weapon of any kind or anything resembling a weapon, as he claimed he saw, that justified deadly force as a legal defense. The jury reached a just verdict and the judge issued a just sentence.

@Mosca Bianca now back to the excuse you gave previously:

No, a person saying they are going to kill you is NOT protected under the 1st amendment.

Everything else you wrote, and I bet you enjoyed it, is irrelevant.

Here's how it works:
They can play their music
ANYONE can tell them to turn it down
They can abide by that request or not
The person complaining can then call the police and have them cited for disturbing the peace.
The ones playing the music do NOT have the right to make threats against the person making the request to turn down their music.

IF one of them said "I'm going to kill that mothereffer" or anything of the sort, then the person making the request THEN has reasonable grounds to perceive that as a threat and defend themselves.

If you think even for an instant that you are protected by law to make a threat against someone, you're in for a rude awakening.

@Muskoka Mike The ONLY person who perceived a "threat" that had to be met with deadly force was Mr. Dunn.  No one else.  What are the odds that the man who lied about nearly every aspect of the murder he committed also lied about the shotgun barrel?  Answer:  A jury of his peers determined those odds to be not 99%, but 100%.  They found him to be both a murderer and a liar.  What obviously happened was that he didn't like the "thugs" attitude of disrespect and the "rap crap" so he decided to correct their attitude by unloading his clip into their SUV.  Yes, for Mr. Dunn, black "thugs" who are disrespectful deserve death, and that is what he delivered.  He could have ended all 4 of their lives!  There was NO weapon.  No stick.  No barrel.  Nothing but Mr. Dunn's  heart full of virulent racism and mouth full of lies and baseless justifications. Mr. Dunn played a stupid game and he won the grand prize of life without parole.

@Muskoka Mike It doesn't matter one iota what the teenager said to Mr. Dunn about his request to turn down the music.  The young man's disrespectful speech is protected by the 1st amendment of this country's Constitution.  And the consequences for disrespectful speech are not murder-by-gunfire.  As to your point about kids being less respectful of authority today than they were in generations past, you have a legit point, but the larger point is that this generation was RAISED by our generation.

I used to play music loud too.....and the difference between how I was raised and how kids today are: if an adult, ANY adult told me to turn it down, I did. Just because it is a rite of passage doesn't make it acceptable.

Even the cops said they could see the "kids" getting all hot headed and mouthing off. They didn't deserve to be shot at, but please don't even TRY and tell me that guy didn't say anything back to Dunn like get that mothereffer etc.


I thought there was quite a contrast between Rhonda’s testimony vs Michael in regards to the issue of him telling her the boys had a gun.  This came out near the end of the video..   he seems quite cold whereas she is very upset by the entire incident and her emotions line up with what she says.  Mike tried very hard to project his nobility but that ended up being exactly what was in question.  The door being open on the car was another major issue with his story, this was specifically asked by the detectives.   It’s a major conflict that mikes story don’t line up because of the forensics of the ballistics, the door could not have been opened because the bullets were in the kid and the door.  Mikes rendering of the story had many flaws.  When he seemed to show the most emotion was over Ronda during the trial telling his story, I think at that moment he was realizing he may never be with her again in this life and was manufacturing as much emotion as he could but then switched gears and soberly answered a question as if the emotions switched off .  Quite the contrast between Ronda and mike.


This guy chose to park next to them. And he'll be leaving soon. It wasn't like next store neighbors having a loud party until the wee hours of the morning. And Rhonda wasn't really talking to him about what happened on the drive to there hotel.  She knew better, she knew not to get him upset again. She was scared of him. She knew what he was like.


Well, I can confirm that no Black kid their age says phrases such as “you’re dead, b***h!” It’s only in the movies. If I can hear a group of people saying “let’s f*****g kill him” and “you’re dead, b***h!” then I highly doubt I’m going to roll down my window to confront what is already deemed to be an extremely hostile situation. The total lack of remorse shown by a man who just fired multiple rounds into a car full of young men is obviously something that stems from racially-charged prejudices.

Good point. That isn't not how black people talk at all. That's how he talks. That was projection.

Yeah not to sound weird but that’s not really how black people talk.


What he calls thugs will now be called cell mates.


Any normal person just shrugs at loud music, or mutters to themselves about it. The only reason he reacted the way he did is because he was armed, and because of that was on a power trip. People who are armed approach situations like these a lot differently than anyone else.

Youre wrong. A select few who make the news but most do not go on a power trip. Theres a few bad apples in every bunch

In my experience most Gun carriers try harder to avoid situations like this than non-carriers


Countless times I have come across people playing their music super loud at the lights, petrol stations, supermarkets etc. It's annoying but I ignore it and move on. Why would anyone get this mad and shoot the occupants? Insane. Guns give some people a sense of god like powers and they see it as a way of solving trivial problems.


Come on guys he's innocent. I confuse shotguns for sticks all the time. Walking through the woods is terrifying

He ain’t innocent his ass bttr stay in p.c 🤣 i dont lower my music for nobody ya gotta deal with my Spanish music whereever i go

Omg I just choked on my sprite 😭😭😭😭😭🤣 🤣🤣😭 lmmfao

Omg I just choked on my sprite 😭😭😭😭😭🤣 🤣🤣😭 lmmfao

Only problem is there wasn’t even a stick

Only problem is there wasn’t even a stick

You made me laugh out loud in a bus and people looked at me weird.

Especially when the trees play loud rap crap 🤦🏿♂

Especially when the trees play loud rap crap 🤦🏿♂

I know, so many trees pointing things at me. Are they sticks or guns?

Lol Now I'm going to be to afraid to go hiking at the mountainside.

they were probably gangbangers though. Easy to assume they were armed. The gangster rap is a sign.

Is it bad that I heard "fortunate son" stsrting to play when i read this comment?

There was a shotgun tapping against my window last night, horrifying.

I can’t stop laughing at all these shotgun tree analogy jokes. 😹😹😹😹

LMAO ohhhh man, good one. Best comment ever.

LMAO ohhhh man, good one. Best comment ever.

The loud thumping sound hurt his ears but 8 gunshots didn't! 😛

There's a path I walk down to and from work. In winter it can be absolutely pitch black on the way back. Some times a bush or stray plant can get that ogga booga part of my brain firing off. Puts you on edge.

shotgun trees hit different in the woods

shotgun trees hit different in the woods

@Sharyn Allan Guns grow on trees in the USA.  And sticks also grow on trees. It’s a mess.

I’m an avid hiker. Can you imagine what it must be like for me? It’s like my life is being threatened everyday. I’ve called the police multiple times to report that I’m being shot at, only to waste their time and resources because I didn’t realize it was just trees.

To anybody studying law in the comments, can a lawyer actually lie or tell his client to lie? Cause I keep seeing that it's not authorized in many jurisdictions but in all these videos we see the accused being instructed by their lawyer to reshape their version of events, isn't that lying to the jury? (for example Michael Dunn saying they told him "shit's about to go down" only after counsel from his attorney, and exaggerating the whole situation)

Speaking of sticks, listen to his track "Stick A Shank In Me, I'm Dunn"

I’m surprised he didn’t mention the possibility of AK-47 !

Well some people call shotguns boomSTICKS so....

Well some people call shotguns boomSTICKS so....

a death threat is still a death threat, there were four of them and one of him, he reached down and brought up a weapon intentionally, doesnt matter if it was a stick or a gun

yeah, they definitely lifted up a stick to the window in a way that would cause anyone to confuse it with a gun! that's absoLUTELy something that happened!

sorry 'bout the prison time, 'bro'.

id lmao if a kid didn't have to die for us all to see who this man truly is once his mask slipped

I wonder how he'd react were ME & MY friends bumping the exact same song @ the same volume. I wonder ... would little white girls n boys compel that dude SHOOT UP THE CAR???!!

yeah, they definitely lifted up a stick to the window in a way that would cause _anyone_ to confuse it with a gun! that's absoLUTELy something that happened!

sorry 'bout the prison time, 'bro'.

id lmao if a kid didn't have to _die_ for us all to see who this man _truly is_ once his mask slipped

I wonder how he'd react were ME & MY friends bumping the exact same song @ the same volume. _I wonder_ ... would little white girls n boys compel that dude SHOOT UP THE CAR???!!

do you flinch every time you take a leak?

do you flinch every time you take a leak?

Man those lightsaber duals as a kid would've been crazy if we were swinging shotguns around instead

@See Me Rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@See Me Rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Are they loaded? Who's holding them? Are they sentient???

I stepped on one and thought I was going to die.

I stepped on one and thought I was going to die.

@David Devita I almost shit maself with that jajajaajjajaja

Exactly. They are the same shape and everything

Exactly. They are the same shape and everything

@Robert Gaudet excuse me sir, may I ask why you have a gun tree.

Me: careful it's well branched out and heavily armed

Trees attack you, you're the victim.  I mean, it's ABSURD that they would do that, but, they're violent.

And expensive.  So much ammo expended after every hike.

@Imoblivious I can never find my mossberg.  It’s camouflaged so well

@rafer Jefferson iii That's why the brands called mossberg

I went to the shotgun store but ended up in the forest again.  Then I went to the forest and ended up in a shotgun shop.  <br>It really is a minefield

I went to the shotgun store but ended up in the forest again.  Then I went to the forest and ended up in a shotgun shop.
It really is a minefield

Imagine claiming you frequently walk through the woods and have never seen a shotgun tree.

Yeah the whole country has a gun issue. Get it sorted for gods sake

@David Devita they exist people just don't want to believe it,,,

Lmaoo just walking down the path like “oh what a nice da-AHHH PLEASE TAKE MY WALLET oh it’s just a stick. Whew. AHHH PLEASE NO oh it’s another stick.”

It's happened like 3 times, never had my glasses on

The giving tree lookin mad weird at a distance

The giving tree lookin mad weird at a distance


The fiance (Rhonda) dodged a bullet by not being with him anymore, but at the cost of that young mans life. So tragic.


One of the many takeaways from JCS content is to never speak to police without a lawyer


So it sounds like she was aware that he murdered this teenager and did this whole crime and she wants to run away. It seems like she threw him to the Wolves when she realized that they were both likely in trouble. Had his license plate number not been written down by a witness or Witnesses at the scene, I believe that she would have never spoken to the police and covered his tracks with him. I think that there is a case as to why she should have been criminally charged as well.


this is so damn tragic... and as for the young man who died in that line of fire... So sorry man... it should not have been like this... but it happened so fast without any good reason at all...RIP , condoleances to the people who love him. As his wife tragically became a victim by losing her husband in this manner and getting pulled into a crime with the loss of a human life... as for the one responsible... you are where you belong even tough I still have doubts wether he is being a little truthfull or just without any emotion , I do not think he is without emotion but lives in denial however , he seems without emotion tough... Just not entirely sure(not yet)


"I'm the victor, but also the victim" Yes Mike, you truly are the "victor" for opening fire at a car full of unarmed teenagers...

@JeffSayYes It’s not a shame. He’s evil.

@Mack Edwards Drug dealers? Where are you getting that info from? The police said these boys had no prior run ins with the law. And it’s not ‘allegedly,’ they were unarmed. That was fact. You sound way too eager to strip people of their humanity.

@Setryon N1 oh plus congrats for defending a murderer 🎉🎉

@Setryon N1 who tf are you calling people son? And so you would say it's a good idea shooting at a gas station or what? Some guys really wanna correct people just for the sake of it smh

don't forget that he kept shooting after the car was driving away

He called them thugs. The guy who opened fire on a group of teenagers because he threw a tantrum is calling other people thugs

hearing him say that triggers my fucking gag reflex every time. its just disgusting for him to say that!

They were armed! With shotguns!.... Or sticks... Shotgunsticks

Not to mention there could have been a racially motivated, he called it thug music

@J VII my dude was shooting at a car door and his aim was so poor he shot every part of the car

@adjudicator_heroic as a long time shooter, sometimes bullets can do weird things even before impact. It's almost like people don't understand that when you launch an unguided projectile, you've relinquished control of it.

@Shammo • So true!! That would have been very dangerous!!

@George Mcfly [Vinesauce] Vinny - Android Trash #5

@Fiendish Memory lmao what. I haven't been apart of this comment thread for a while. What do you want

@Random guy with a baseball batte he knows all about it

@J VII I’m not supporting what he did as a matter of fact I condemn it completely. I was just trying to point out that it could’ve gone a lot worse and many other could’ve been injured/killed by his actions

@J VII I didn’t mean to imply he was shooting at the car’s gas tank, rather that if a stray bullet struck a gas pump causing it to leak another one could’ve caused a spark to ignite it.

@J VII and after impact remember bullets can do weird things

@J VII the car? It has an internal gas tank

@StikySamurai he was shooting at the car door. Last I checked people didn’t have internal gas tanks. Pretty sure he hit a person, too. I don’t think that guy was sitting next to a gas tank.

@Random guy with a baseball batte saw it on Mythbusters...

@Dominick Schrute You sound experienced in the field of shooting at gasoline lol

@Dominick Schrute ehhhhh it’s possible if one bullet causes gas to leak and another causes a spark from impact with a surface, and considering how many rounds he was dumping it definitely could’ve happened, crazier things have

@Shammo • you do know that a bullet hitting gasoline doesn't just blow it all up like in the movies right?

@Shammo • Ah, that makes more sense. Didn't know what you were referring to.

@Skye Himalaya the fucking Gas Station blowing up?

@Shammo • What sense does that make lmao.

@Skye Himalaya ye the sentence is correct didnt say anything about that but imagine what could have happened from Shooting a gun at a Gas Station


It was way deeper than that, this is coming from a mom raising a black son in America. That wanted to kill them out of the hate in heart. The wife said he had five drinks...his true colors came out... This was a hate crime and its heartbreaking. I cried for the parents to sit in that court room with him they knew they felt it..The mom was numb dad was broken. This is also of mom of a school aged child. It's 2022 and with the Robb Elementary school shooting in Texas smh..we need some type of gun control... or this will continue to happen.


I’ve listened to this story a handful of times over the past year and it still never gets old how the narrator says “beloved puppy”


You can’t just say “ I was in fear for my life” and then it all be good. You need to actually have a reason to be in fear of your life. Dude has been hanging around to many gun range attorneys


Dunn, no doubt, was a member of the 'Real Men Carry Guns Club'.  This is why people are petrified that if more people got a hold of a 'firing weapon' there'd be way more friggin' tragedy'. Where I live, innocent people at the wrong place at the wrong time get killed by gunshots and it can all happen in a parking lot , restaurant, beauty salons etc. Glad Dunn is done.


I guess he counted on his fiance to save his arse by lying for him. Respect to this lady for doing what is right.

@K See What  a nonsense comment that is.

@K See What  a nonsense comment that is.

Definitely !! that’s why he kept mention how much he loves her on the way home , not because he genuinely does  . I’m sure he only wants  to remind her of the  “ loyalty “she’s supposed to have to him in his twisted / arrogant ass mind.

I  also thought would she lie about the other car
having a gun.  This was damming testimony to him.
She told the truth.  A good and brave woman.
She did not want to speak about this over the prison phone.

@Stina For women, it's quite easy. They always defer to the strongest authority, regardless.

@Stina he didn’t say anything bad about her….he was saying she might have been looking for a way out of the relationship and this coincidentally happened. I mean considering he had a previous record of abuse, that would be a possibility

@Daniel Zerich Wow give her some damn credit jesus do you understand how hard it is to turn on your partner like that ?

Agreed. The guy was a total piece of sh*t that abused her psychologically, verbally, and physically. Not only that he has a track record of abuse with his previous wives. Her defending him would have made no sense and she did the right thing.

I think she was looking for an out, and coincidentally this happened.


There must be so much turmoil for Rhonda. The man she loves, but she doesn't cover up and lie for him.  She was sad for the victim and the whole tragedy. There are still good people on this earth.


I find it somewhat ironic that when a cop kills an innocent man because he “thinks he has a weapon” then all is forgiven, but when Joe Public who has no training or experience of deadly situations does it, they are interrogated like this.<br>Obviously this guy deserves to go to prison for a long time but I’m hard pressed to except the clear difference in treatment.

I find it somewhat ironic that when a cop kills an innocent man because he “thinks he has a weapon” then all is forgiven, but when Joe Public who has no training or experience of deadly situations does it, they are interrogated like this.
Obviously this guy deserves to go to prison for a long time but I’m hard pressed to except the clear difference in treatment.

Cops don’t shoot people because they see a stick though, when a cop shoots an unarmed man 9/10 the dude moved fast towards them, or is fishing in his pockets


No defense lawyer ever said to himself, "Boy, I'm glad my client spoke with the police before retaining my services"... even if you believe you have a clear-cut self-defense situation, you don't answer any questions. You request a lawyer. Talking to the police is not going to get you home any faster than talking with your lawyer.


It speaks volumes to the kind of person he is, that he would call them violent when he was the only one who hurt and killed someone that night. And it speaks volumes in contrast to what kind of person his ex-fiance is, that she was so afraid to testify that she would tremble and forget her right/lefts, but still do it fully and honestly


You could tell it broke her heart not to lie for him, but she was gonna tell the truth. Good for her, that dude is trash.

@Jazza BigHits lol also incredibly false. You really need to learn to not speak in generalities and extremes. Not all crimes should be kept secret for a loved one and not all opinions make sense even with full context and specific experiences. You’re apparently stuck in an incredibly small box that you can’t think your way out it.

@jcsaclkh It's good that you can concede that your opinion is shit, but you don't need to be so down on yourself. Any opinion makes sense depending on context and differing experiences of individuals.

@Jazza BigHits well duh. Although, being entitled to a shit opinion still makes it a shit opinion.

@jcsaclkh Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion as well. Hope you have a good night/day

@jcsaclkh What was special? The fact that I don't believe in gay marriage (it's considered a civil union), or the fact that i think you shouldn't throw your partner under the bus if they commit a crime? (Note: i commented something similar on the Teen Emo Thrill Killer JCS inspired video saying the boyfriend gave her up and threw her under the bus, it's not about gender, it's about loyalty)

@Jazza BigHits wow that was special…in a bad way if you weren’t sure.

@😁smiley face Thanks for leaving out the hostility, hope you have good luck in yours too

@Jazza BigHits interesting take Jazza. <br>I wish you good luck in your life.

@Jazza BigHits interesting take Jazza.
I wish you good luck in your life.

@😁smiley face I don't believe in gay marriage. Gays are free to be together if they'd like but that isn't marriage, it's a civil union.

@Jazza BigHits hey but what about gay marriage?

Guys, this just shows why you don't get married. She'll throw you under the bus. And then a bunch of women on youtube will agree with her.

That guy definitely had a pattern of racist behavior “I hate that thug music” “I know you do honey” that’s someone who says racist shit everyday

@Emmett Paul Yeah, honsestly the same. None of this is her fault and I hope she can deal with it and move past this fucker ruining everyone’s life.

Honestly I think she felt absolutely horrible because it was her decision to stop at the gas station. She probably is feeling a lot of internalized guilt about it and she seems to be actually grieving the death of that teenager. I think it probably is partially because she knows that testifying against him will end up with him in jail but I know personally, even if I loved the person to death, if they did what he did I would be doing the same thing she is. I actually feel really bad for her

@JG Luxe quite considerably subterranean and, with complete honesty, in a severe state of harrowing struggle

@JG Luxe down absolutely universally astronomically


"I really didn't know I was being charged with murder ... that sucks"<br>-wow 😭😭😭

"I really didn't know I was being charged with murder ... that sucks"
-wow 😭😭😭


Tommy Stornes is a damn hero, shout out to him, and RIP Jordan Davis. Rediculous.


Long ago when I was at college, maybe about 21/22 yo, I came home a bit late one night and entering my room, to turn the light on, I mistakenly switched on the AC plug outlet switch and my dual cassette player-recorder(which was plugged in and gifted by my dad when I had passed out high school) abruptly blared out a Motely Crue number. My dad who was sleeping in the adjacent room got up from his slumber, took an axe from the store room and smashed the player into pieces. That was a horrible moment in my life. I'm 50 now but am still puzzled why he had acted so violent at such a trivial thing. But I get consolation from my confidence that I can never do something like that with my son who's now 19.


I don't believe he would not have done the same thing to ANY color skin. Narcissists are not into thinking they are better than a specific race, just better than anyone!<br>Rhonda dodged a bullet.

I don't believe he would not have done the same thing to ANY color skin. Narcissists are not into thinking they are better than a specific race, just better than anyone!
Rhonda dodged a bullet.