Rhonda is an angel. She deserves so much better than him. The worst part is that she probably honestly thought he was a good guy. Sometimes people's bad side comes out when we least expect it. She is so sweet. I hope she moves on and lives a long and fulfilling life.

Dirty Guy please tell me that’s true lmao

I sincerely hope she doesn’t blame herself. She said it was her idea to go stop at the 7-11 to get a bottle of wine.

Dirty Guy she must’ve been a gold digger or a horrible judge of character.

Dirty Guy lol did she really?? hoping this is true


Good for the fiance for not lying.  He is a cold blooded killer


Why didn't Michael Dunn mind his own effing business?  Totally avoidable!


the black cop “here’s what i’ll bet you a whole years salary” haha ctfu get em


Another case of a tough guy boomer thinking because he carries a gun he can start fights and end them with shooting.


Now this P.O.S is in prison forever for not minding his business


That opening ring tone made me think my phone was ringing lol

I thought I was calling someone and the phone wasn't even near me lol


He looks like the Mayor from nightmare before Christmas lol


Its crazy to know there are people out there who think their concealed carry permit is a license to murder anyone who annoys or upsets them on a bad day…    AND they have to know in this day and age there will be witnesses, camera/ audio footage, evidence & that every second of what occurred will be reviewed against the accuracy & creditability of their testimony…  BUT THEN they somehow delude themselves into thinking that they are “innocent” “victim” to such a degree that they will disregard & deny themselves their legal right to remain silent & obtain legal counsel…    Do they actually think the detectives are going to be like “hey its all good buddy, you were totally justified for senselessly murdering unarmed innocent people, shame on them for making you a little annoyed & upset, sorry we had to track you down for the interrogation, you’re free to go home now”  wtf?!?


This guy really murdered over <b>checks notes</b> loud music... It's a good thing he didn't get married and have kids because those children would not have lived for long

This guy really murdered over *checks notes* loud music... It's a good thing he didn't get married and have kids because those children would not have lived for long


They should have stayed at the scene and waited for the police


This guy reminds me of the guy with the yellow hummer in better call Saul


This is one of those guys, who waits for these "life threatening situations" all his life just to prove how strong and capable he is. Guys like this will judge a situation in a completely wrong way just to self-justify their brutal actions.

@Dorin Oprea How was firing 10 shots at 3 unarmed teens, killing 1 justify an acquittal?

@Dorin Oprea How was firing 10 shots at 3 unarmed teens, killing 1 justify an acquittal?

You're sooo right dude. They usually end up being cops or soldiers though, so this is a oddball.

You're sooo right dude. They usually end up being cops or soldiers though, so this is a oddball.

@Jamal Labarge ??????? Why are you talking about politics? I’m just confused. I guess I’ll agree that nerds rule the world tho

@qwerty asdf   STEM and such.

We all work for Nerds - they helped Biden get out the vote after all.

@qwerty asdf   STEM and such.

We all work for Nerds - they helped Biden get out the vote after all.

@Jamal Labarge tf is a nerd occupation lmao

@Jamal Labarge tf is a nerd occupation lmao

@Rick yes it is with corrupt in power, illegally. # patriotsrising #JesusChristisLord

@Rick yes it is with corrupt in power, illegally. # patriotsrising #JesusChristisLord

Yo, this comment actually gave me some insight. Thank you, it's not a good thing to think that way, life isn't a movie or fantasy novel, unfortunately.

@Robert Biondo "personally I think he was just a scared dumbass."   I think this is really the only explanation. A lot of people calling him racist and looking for a gunfight. I doubt that... I suspect there was some racial profiling going on considering everything he's said, but at the same time, what with the music and the confrontational attitude he recieved after asking them to turn down the music. I think him branding them as "thugs" was justified from his perspective. That turns them from a group of kids to a group of people you don't want to mess with and one of them is now visibly agitated over such an innocent request. Who's to say what they'll do if this confrontation escalates?
So he ended it first. I don't doubt he saw some object or precieved some motion they made as reaching for a gun so he reacted.

To me this whole scenario happened due to a stupid escalation of a non-conflict on both sides and Dunn capped it off with misinterpreting their reactions as a threat to his life. There are likely psychological factors at play as others have mentioned, like being a gun-nut/ passive racism etc. But I think the bulk of what happened was due to him being scared and stupid.

@Lukkaboc You need to be disciplined under those conditions,  yes?

Now they could do what some Italians were doing during the Balkan Civil Wars.  I read of rumors that some Italian "adventurers" would fly to the former Yugoslavia to shoot at people.

Me, I keep it in the holster.

I never understood why those types of people don't just move to a waring country and enlist as a mercenary or try to be a delivery trucker/bus driver where the supply lines are attacked routinely.  Probably couldn't handle real violence/war.

I dont think this guy is a racist or psycopath. It is one of those situations where life can go terribly wrong. Everyone has those in life.  Just most of the times it turn good. Does not need to be a shootout. It can be walking 5 mins before a bomb explodes or racing with your car for 1 min through the city.
I dont excuse him though. He could have managed the situation in many more different ways.

His partner was remarkable. How difficult it must be to do the right thing in those circumstanced. Put honesty above love knowing you're sending the love of your life on a life sentence.

@Jamal Labarge A constitution that came into force 1789 might not be up to date anymore, don't you think so? There are not many native Americans roaming the streets that want your wife and your cattle and you need to defend yourself. BTW: Wall Street doesn't need gun control, stealing is their main business. The Sullivan Act is in force since 1911! Stay under your rock and work on your argumentation and on your bias, the world moves on.

People who pull a gun for anything are the worst 🙄 especially when they are the ones that instigate fights with unarmed people.

@New England Aviation Spotting it seems you all say the same thing. <br>This guy also said this during interrogation.

@New England Aviation Spotting it seems you all say the same thing.
This guy also said this during interrogation.

@Drengr "scream bloody murder at the thought of a simple mental health test, an aptitude test, and a firearm licence."

What is a "mental health test"?  What does that the term mean?   I had evals in the past, they're pretty easy.  They mess with you, see how you respond.

I don't like licensing.  It's too easy to fiddle with it.   Illinois and New Jersey in the US already require a license in order to purchase a handgun.  How are their stats?  Are they working in Chicago and Newark?

How are they working in disenfranchising ordinary people in those two locales, especially Jersey?   Pretty good.  I hear a lot of griping from people out that way.

Aptitude for what?

You sling these terms about as if they have some meaning external to your perceptions.

Shooting lessons cost a lot of money. Some of these dum dum's are looking for an opportunity to put it to use

@Txiv Neeb's Waffles and Shrooms Instrumentals Well suprise, so did Michel Dunn. He also didn't have a gun pulled on him.

And thankfully I don't have to worry about that much since I live in Switzerland and we don't allow any person with a room temperature IQ to buy a gun here. A shooting happens maybe twice a year.

@Txiv Neeb's Waffles and Shrooms Instrumentals as proud as I am of you for clearly having just learned the word "projection," no it's not.

@xPoemi it’s spelled “apparently “ princess. Or did that hurt your feelings too?  Xo

@xPoemi it’s spelled “apparently “ princess. Or did that hurt your feelings too?  Xo

@J Wilcox so you only go for men already in relationships?

@J Wilcox so you only go for men already in relationships?

@xPoemi I call it the way I see it<br> princess. Kisses. Xo

@xPoemi I call it the way I see it
 princess. Kisses. Xo

@Jacques So what Says the guy who needs to call other men "beta" just too feel better about himself. Cheers.

Really is that what they are trying to do? Hum? I just stay away from all and any men who are single and available. No way Jose. Peace.

@Think for yourself his response wasnt motivated by fear....ego if anything....if he was scared he would of just minded his own business...which he should of.

@Jacques So what Well you definitely misunderstood the terms "Karen" or "beta". But sure go on with stroking your tiny ego. Some people really need that.

I just came here to laugh at all the experts. So many Karen’s. So many betas. Xo

I just came here to laugh at all the experts. So many Karen’s. So many betas. Xo

Have you learned nothing about making assumptions?

Have you learned nothing about making assumptions?

He was wrongfully convicted by an anti-white system. These comments are a perfect example. Disgusting

He was wrongfully convicted by an anti-white system. These comments are a perfect example. Disgusting

These comments are making me lose braincells

These comments are making me lose braincells

@Joe Public yes
“I don’t like tht thug music”
Yes br

@Joe Public yes
“I don’t like tht thug music”
Yes br

@ce le Yeah, me too. He continuously refers to these kids as thugs, and assumed they were armed and up to no good. And when he was testifying on the stand he embellished his story of their confrontation to include them calling him a cracker. That's a term I've never heard anyone use seriously in my life, but old white people love to get upset imagining being called one.

@Joe Public so you think if it was a bunch of white kids he would have done the same? Hogwash.

@Joe Public so you think if it was a bunch of white kids he would have done the same? Hogwash.

@Drengr The US constitution needs a sensible renewal and adjustment to the current times. I agree with you that there are groups that have no interest in changing anything because they would lose power. Happy New Year 2021!

very hard cool man with a gun. dangerous people

very hard cool man with a gun. dangerous people

My best friend murdered his neighbor, had the very same mentality. Sad

My best friend murdered his neighbor, had the very same mentality. Sad

@Rema Bundles no, it is you who doesn't understand rly. With calling 'most older white guys racist', you are making a racist statement yourself. That is what he meant.

@Jim Marbaz    I like how you put that word in quotes....    but it's the real deal.

I'm really nasty when I'm disarmed.   Put on a gun on me?   I'm Mr. Sunshine.   Nope, don't want any trouble here.

@Monica Catalano " do not accept any other possible interpretation. A bit like people who believe in conspiracies!"

There are some real conspiracies....   in the early days of World War One US based banker JP Morgan Jr loaned the British 2 billion dollars in "war loans".   That's the equivalent of $52 billion dollars today.  Solid gold dollars, not bit patterns in a computer or database.   The British came back a while later, told him that they couldn't repay the loans if they lost the war.   Morgan began to lean on his fellow Plutocrats to change things.

First it was arming the British.  US companies began to manufacture weapons for the British, in violation of neutrality.  The P14 Enfield was a US manufactured rifle that fired a British 303 round.  We started manufacture of explosives and artillery shells for the British.  We would later make the Mosin-Nagan for the Tsar's army.

Woodrow Wilson won election in 2016 as a "peace candidate".     One in four Americans were of German ancestry.  There are many German language newspapers in the US.

The US more or less accepted the British blockade of Germany and Austria.

A media campaign began against Germans.   Dachsunds were stomped,  food was renamed.  German language newspapers were closed.    In 1917 WIlson asked for a declaration of war.  There was widespread resistance to the draft.  "Slackers", people who wanted to resist, were arrested in large numbers.

Morgan got his loan repaid, with interest.

The US also invaded Russia.  The Intervention.  Trotsky later thanked us, the British, French and Japanese, for making the Communists look like patriots.

Why were we there?    War loans to the Tsar.

Maybe....  more likely is that he grew up being screwed with, got himself a "nerd" occupation, got some money and wanted to go shooting.    Concealed carry training requires threat evaluation and getting out of the line of fire.

What he did was stupid and had an air of malice to it.

This is why the 2nd amendment needs to go away!

This is why the 2nd amendment needs to go away!

Well my my.... Guess he has quite the hourglass of many fortnights to think about this moment in time ...

Well my my.... Guess he has quite the hourglass of many fortnights to think about this moment in time ...

Scarier thing is that in the midwestern town Ive grown up in, how many of these guys I have met. Ive seen victims of crime get like this but also unfortunately people who were never victims and created their narratives in their head

@Monica Catalano I had a similar experience. I was on a bus coming back from a fundraiser for a charity and my friend and I were talking about how much money was raised. A man on the bus thought I was soliciting my business colleague (a woman), offering her money for sex. His English was poor. I suppose he could not imagine a man talking to a woman about money outside of that context. I told him he was mistaken and it was not what he thought it was. My colleague thought it was funny and started laughing. The man kept insisting he was right, became flustered, then moved to another part of the bus.

Took the words out of my mouth, he seems like an ignorant abusive husband who thinks he’s tough and wanted to prove to himself he is, he’s just an insecure husk of a man

I think he was motivated by fear and hatred of gangs. Jacksonville Florida is a high-crime district. The chances of becoming a victim of violent crime there much higher than the national average. Of course, his response to the argument was irrational and unwarranted. They did not shoot at him first. This was not self-defense. That's why he was convicted.

@Rema Bundles O so you're one of those guys?? The ones who think they can walk around being racist 24/7 and pretend to be a victim?
You make me sick.

@Rema Bundles O so you're one of *those* guys?? The ones who think they can walk around being racist 24/7 and pretend to be a victim?
You make me sick.

heyysimone ur videos in your playlist definitely describe you

heyysimone ur videos in your playlist definitely describe you

One of those guys huh ? .... You mean most older white men? He’s clearly racist, let’s not negate the facts

One of those guys huh ? .... You mean most older white men? He’s clearly racist, let’s not negate the facts

@SuperMerchus i hate the "always wanted to be a cop" guys. They want to be cops so they can get around the law

@secret message That's the reason why I put the words into quotation marks.

@secret message That's the reason why I put the words into quotation marks.

@GradKat you be a gun guy without wanting  to harm people some individuals find the mechanics of firearms interesting or looks the of weapon

How is this a life treating situation he's just a spoiled brat who got away with everything so when someone said something to him he went on a power trip and thought he would get away with it

@Joe Public nah his assumption is pretty spot on if you had more people knowledge you'd know that too

@Joe Public nah his assumption is pretty spot on if you had more people knowledge you'd know that too

@ce le  - Right. Because of the context it’s automatically about race, right? Hogwash.

@ce le  - Right. Because of the context it’s automatically about race, right? Hogwash.

@GradKat - Does it? Perhaps he is a collector and happens to enjoy shooting. Your assumptions are ridiculous

@GradKat - Does it? Perhaps he is a collector and happens to enjoy shooting. Your assumptions are ridiculous

@GradKat I'm an avid gun guy and hope I never have to shoot someone.

@GradKat I'm an avid gun guy and hope I never have to shoot someone.

@Robert Biondo I think he is clearly racist.

@Robert Biondo I think he is clearly racist.

I reckon he always wanted to be a cop.... one of those bad ones .

I reckon he always wanted to be a cop.... one of those bad ones .


Lol. Everyone is about that life, until someone actually is. Then everybody is about that victim status. Helter Skelter, the whole world is upside down


Oh he’s going to have a fun time in duval county jail 😭


If You don't like the Music someone is playing parked beside You, Blast Your Music as loud as possible. Just make sure You have a louder System than they do.


U can tell that even his wife knew that was he was sayin was total bs.


Crazy to think that this all started because of a wine bottle


He ruined his own case so badly you almost feel sorry him. But his complete lack of remorse makes that impossible.


On this earth you can do what ever you want when I’m saying you can do what ever you want i mean you can Fight/Steel/cheat/ or have sex behind your partner back whatever those things are normally things on this earth that we are leaving but do not do one thing Bro take someone’s life no do not 😭


The fact that he unloaded two rounds on that car and continued to shoot as they drove away tells me all I need to know

@David P. Alcohol was on his mind, for one. Which in no way makes this better-in fact, worse.  I just wanted to point that out as that could be an additional charge in some states...

When 1 man drives up  and tells three other guys "Turn your fuking music down"  something is not adding up.  Just turn the music down for a min and live to see another day.     People need to use their head and stop being so confritational.

@Sauce Johnson the fact that he drove that day tells me everything you need to know 💯

@Xen N Ah yes the part where Michael says: Put the music down'' never happened then?<br>It's the freaking definition of confrontation if you walk up to 3 strangers and, in Michael's own words :''Ask / Demand'' they put the music down...

@Xen N Ah yes the part where Michael says: Put the music down'' never happened then?
It's the freaking definition of confrontation if you walk up to 3 strangers and, in Michael's own words :''Ask / Demand'' they put the music down...

@Vinnie G If you put your bias down for a second, the victims literally said that it was the one boy that started the confrontation after he came back out to the car.

He starts a confrontation with 4 young dudes in a car and pulls out a gun as soon as someone says something to him..<br>He doesn't need to fire shots for me to see what kind of person this is.

He starts a confrontation with 4 young dudes in a car and pulls out a gun as soon as someone says something to him..
He doesn't need to fire shots for me to see what kind of person this is.

@empty windex bottle What uh... what exactly do you think a car door would do to protect you from a shotgun?

@JessicaMarlana None, that is why i wrote "danger" as to refer what he was saying

@empty windex bottle are you insane? What danger does 3 teenage boys in a car with loud music pose?

The fact you just said two rounds tells me everything I need to know XD

@David P. So you think the dude lives at the gas station? Can you pass me whatever it is you're smoking?

It was a hell of a lot more then two rounds

@Swim Jane Swim - Crime and Horror

A few people talk shit, so you decide to draw a weapon and fire a warning shot?

@Jim Jo ‘Stand your ground’ laws aren’t the issue. They’re irrelevant in this situation. This guy was looking for any excuse and made a very bad (stupid) decision. The law dealt with him accordingly.
There’s nothing wrong with the law. If YOU want to flee an armed intruder with your loved ones in your house, feel free. People shouldn’t go to prison for defending their homes and loved ones.
Good luck 🍀👍

right? and he said he was scared for his life but yet the kids were the ones running away?? oh and  he stepped out the car, into the open and kept shooting

These dudes ALWAYS start trouble then when they get a rise out of their “target” they pull a gun and claim “self defense”. There are trials on tv right now about the same situations. These “stand your ground” laws are being taken advantage of by these types of dudes.

He should of hidden from the "danger" Notify the people that he is armed and will shoot and if they continuing being hostile shoot shots lethal or not. Why didnt he learn that at his "army training"

@Sauce Johnson he was the real tugga hugga that night 💋

Yeah. No one can say what was on his mind other than what he admittedly said. <br>If it was the guys home and was physically attacked or if the shooter reasonably knew he was going to be fatally attacked ( with weapon like in a car jack), maybe he could claim castle doctrine. But this is a killing. Be nice to everyone or you may be an asshole to the wrong person. Ain’t worth it!

Yeah. No one can say what was on his mind other than what he admittedly said.
If it was the guys home and was physically attacked or if the shooter reasonably knew he was going to be fatally attacked ( with weapon like in a car jack), maybe he could claim castle doctrine. But this is a killing. Be nice to everyone or you may be an asshole to the wrong person. Ain’t worth it!


Wtf I am misunderstanding the beggining of this video. Didn’t he say he was the victim? He was clearly the aggressor and the thug and a murder.

Yes. He was trying to play the victim for sympathy


I'm confused.  So the driver of the victims car was 17. Yet the cop said they only stopped so the driver could get cigarettes...

The driver was 18 , the victim was 17 years old


Mega props to Rhonda for being honest and as collected as possible. She's an MVP

When this video started, I had this weird feeling that she was going to cover for him and she was faking her anxiety on the stand.

The longer it went on, the more and more I respected her. That had to be so difficult to do, and it clearly wasn’t easy for her, but she handled it like a fuckin champ.

You can hear the pain in her voice the poor woman

@Lillie ૮₍ .  ̫.⑅₎ა I have no idea why she was with him to begin with. He's so gross.

She dodged a bullet with him being in prison

Absolutely agree.<br>Her righteousness must not be taken for granted.

Absolutely agree.
Her righteousness must not be taken for granted.


He fucked up his life. He had a good life and a pretty fiancé! Smh!


Sad thing is that many people, police or not, have shot and killed many people because they "think" they "saw" a gun or what could've been a gun.. All over the news/ world citizens and police have killed with that mindset or lying about that very mindset being the reason they shot to begin with.. It's so sad. I feel for that kid and his family.. RIP


The fact that the boys backed out, circled the parking lot and waited until HE left to go back to the spot, tells me that THEY were the ones feeling threatened. A car of 'thugs' would have followed him or returned fire.

@John Bistis but there's no evidence of that.

@Daisy Belle that's a good question, why did they come back? I'm assuming they didn't know he was hit.  They said he died pretty fast.

I don't think they had a gun, bc according to his girlfriend he never told her that he saw a gun.

@Chad Love no. Ever heard of free speech? Same shit with music choice.

@Chad Love yes teenagers do.

Stop justifying murder please.

@HandOfThemis to call hip hop thug music, totally makes this racially motivated. People who can all hip hop thug music, are people who call all black people thugs.

@Trump2020 I like that fact that you are justifying murder of a teenage boy bc he and his friends didn't want to turn music down. Think about that .

Think of a problem family member you have, think of all the things you did as a teenager. Imagine you're black and you did what ever you did wrong, in front of this guy. You think you'd be alive?

Were you never a shit head as a teenager?

By the way I'm not calling the music dudes shit heads. They wanted to hear music and we're shot at for it.

@Trump2020 regardless of whether or not they turned down the music does it really justify Mike shooting at the car and killing a child?

@Symmetrics it would be way less people though, which makes for less gun violence

John Bistis does that justify taking a life tho? No

@Trump2020 Thug also includes someone who pulls a gun out and shoots into a car with no regard for life. You left that out of the definition of a thug. This man acted like a gangster more than the kids who okay pretend to be a gangster. This man acted like a real gangster or thug. And he's a terrible liar. Tell the whole story.

@Coochie flip flops Gun control doesn't stop people from getting their hands on guns if they really want to. There's always a black market for weapons. Even if it was made completely illegal for U.S. citizens to own guns, you can bet there would still be quite a few people acquiring them nonetheless.

What? Their friend was dying, or already dead and they didn’t flee to a hospital or call the cops? Nah, they were worried about the gun they tossed.

@Zylthis I don't think it's the individuals fault of that line of thought. I typically associate the word thug with young guys that hand out in groups on the street and accost other people, usually with clothing that matches what you'd expect such people to wear. It just so happens that black people tend toward some of these traits more than white people which I think is largely a cultral thing. I also dont believe it to be inherrantly bad to be seen as a "thug" but I know that boomers especially have a problem with it

@Hurricane Meridian So the 'kids' in the car blasting violent music had no part in it?

@Hurricane Meridian gun control wouldnt prevent shit like this from happening

@Coochie flip flops I'm sorry the word thug means criminal, if YOU hear that word and think "black, teenage boys" then I think that's something for you to work out,  but that's your bias.

@Coochie flip flops no.  that word is not always used to describe black teenage boys.  and, therefore it is not obvious that this was racially motivated.  yes, gun control would make it harder for him to get a gun.  however, it still wouldn't be very hard.  and, denying the ability for responsible people to protect themselves behind the actions of an idiot not only makes no sense, its completely unethical.  just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it's a bad thing.  you're allowed to not like something.  you're allowed to be uncomfortable about things.  you cannot legislate away everything that makes you uncomfortable, though.  that creates a lot more problems that im betting you're not considering.

_ Wayfinder _ well to say that those kids were thugs obviously implies that it was racially motivated no? I mean that word is literally always used to describe black, teenage boys. Plus if there was more gun control then I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have been able to have a gun so easily in the first place no?

What, when ya mates int back bleeding out? Don’t think so tbh

Its prolly racism paired with shitty gun control laws that caused the entire scenario in the first place


Lived all those years as a narcissistic psychopath before being found out?


why this looks fake? like the first scenes, preparation, cameras, perfect ilumination


Remember this when you're blaring your music in public.


Enjoy your bed n breakfast in prison with extra thug life music


I'm really glad he just started talking without a lawyer.

@Shawn rb Perfect pattern hey man, I'm white and in Florida. Relax bro

@Joe Malloy - She dated and lived with a racist. And i am sure if she did not agree with his views, he would kick her to the curb.

@Wincofufu Game The police can twist and turn everything you say, AMD you can be found guilty of a crime you had nothing to do with. I know it sounds crazy, but until you have been in a legal situation, it is impossible to understand, or even believe. Trust me when I say, if you are charged with a crime, you are guilty until you prove your innocence. You can be charged with a crime, put in jail, held on lets say a $50,000 bond. Now if you can't afford to get out, how can you hire a lawyer? If you dont have the money to bond out, you certainly don't have the money for a retainer, and you can't work to put money together. So, NEVER speak to police without a lawyer present

@Max Smith how did you deduct that she is a racist???

@Wincofufu Game Police interrogators are more interested in acquiring confessions or incriminating evidence than actually investigating a crime. If they can get a guy to confess to something just through conversation it looks really good on their record and is often a fast track to promotion. This is fine when they've got someone who is actually guilty, but it can be devastating and irreparably destructive to justice when an interrogator is just hungry for the prestige of a confession to the point where they care more about that than correctly solving the case. Anyone who knows anything about any legal system will tell you to not talk to the police where you're not absolutely required to because they have an uncanny knack for making someone who is completely innocent walk out of the station as a criminal. Shut up and let your attorney do the talking, always.

Right what a clown to be fare hes white and in Florida so

@milk testing woman i didn't do anything. I was charged with domestic violence but i have 2 strikes coulda done life. Btw my first strike was for a crime i was innocent of and i was convicted because i talked to police. That and more brought me to jcs

Im not a cop = u are a cop they lie like crazy in these videos 😜

@Sviolinist what did you do i am not a cop

@Salmon Sandwich you'd actually be surprised. Modern evidence collection and technology really allow us to recreate scenes and scenarios with minimal to no witness testimony, given the situation. A criminal can say all they want, but evidence doesn't lie. Lawyer or no lawyer. Plus, the difference between a lawyer and an attorney, is that lawyers chase ambulances, and attorneys practice law lol. I had to be cheeky, cheers.

@Salmon Sandwich we learn from their mistakes

@Salmon Sandwich what’s wrong if you talk to the police without a lawyer? I don’t understand.

@MasterClassComments - You mean another racist. That is what she is ,having decided to marry a hard core racist.

@Darío Gallegos - Based on watching crime shows, the ones who beat the murder charges are wise enough to make sure there are no witnesses, the murder can be staged as accidental and or the body is not found. Sometimes,  jurisdiction can work in favor of the accused if they don't have a large police  dept or DA's office with seasoned investigators. That is rarely the case in a place like Florida.

@Sviolinist The detective said the boys never left the scene. They backed up, then Dunn left and they returned to the parking lot..

@Salmon Sandwich - True, but there were a ton of witnesses to this crime. I don't think he ever had any hope of walking.

@MasterClassComments if his wife hadn't told him to buy that bottle of wine...

Dude watched making a murderer ONCE and told himself he could beat a murder case

It's even worse when people are also being falsely accused for a murder but also started talking to the police without a lawyer. This goes both ways.

@MasterClassComments yeah because the prosecutor has to divulge all of the witnesses all of the evidence etc. he did have one thing going for them in the most of the time there was really loud noise on so nobody heard exactly what was being said. Unfortunately he changed his story so many times and he lied about the other man getting out of the car when there were other witnesses that were not in the car that corroborated the statements of the people that were in the car. yeah if he had shut up and just waited for all of the evidence and all of the witnesses to be assigned in the case he could have totally gotten his story perfectly straight and would have told it the first time on the witness stand and it would have been believable... In such a scenario I imagine he would have maybe got in 5 to 10 years even after being convicted because the judge would have been unable to tell whether or not the story is true. Also, I have no idea why they didn't press the issue that a weapon could have been thrown out the door of the SUV as they were driving away. I heard no mention of that and if I had been his lawyer I would have hammered that one home that... That there was ample ability for the people in the car to dispose of a weapon.

Absolutely. If a lawyer would have got to him beforehand, this may have ended completely different. Just imagine that. This dude getting pissed at some black guys because of music and out of nowhere decides to shoot at um thinking he's gonna scare um or something but ends up fucking KILLING one of them yet he might've walked if a lawyer would have got to him. Wow.

@Salmon Sandwich yeah I almost got charged with a serious crime once but I've seen JCS so ... Lawyered up baby.. the da rejected the case and they freed me 😈🤔👌 I did talk to the cops during the interrogation though... I was like I'm innocent get me a lawyer.

@Zangief ☭ Watching the First 48, its amazing how many people casually admit to murder


His mom and dad are made of glass the world can see through him


the kid jordan, his mom became a Georgia congresswoman...after mutliple child losses.


"You shot at the door. What was the purpose of that?"
"To save my life"
"From the door?"
I couldn't stop laughing.

They threathened to kill him with loud music.3or 4 of them,he alone..selfdefense book example..just throw away the key..

Chad K maybe because what he did <b>was</b> unreasonable?

Chad K maybe because what he did *was* unreasonable?

Well he does seem to have been hallucinating so it's possible he saw the door coming at him in a threatening manner.

@Andrew Freeston yep. Life is better that way.

I knew I'd find this on the comments, hilarious!!👌🏾😅🤣

Must not be from the city, most shootings accure from a moving vehicle behind a closed car door..

The cop ask this to make him admit that he knew there was a person behind that door. Could be the difference between murder and manslaughter.


GUNS AND ALCOHOL DO NOT GO WELL TOGETHER 😕 ...I KNOW I LEARNED THE HARD WAY .


Great, another every 7 mins you get 2 ads video. Where as I watched the entire Casey Anthony with zero ads. I don't get this channel. Great content. Shitty advertisements.


Took it from 0 to 100 now your in jail for murder my boi


From the beginning of the interview, you can tell this guy is totally expecting the investigators to say something along the lines of, "Okay sir, thank you for your time. You're free to go." In his mind, he is completely justified. There is no inkling whatsoever on his part of how over the top pants-crappingly insane the shit he just pulled really was. I know it's Florida and all, but Jesus.

@Top Weeb because people like him are actually delusional

Haha yup. “Thank you for your service sir. You’re free to go.”  Crazy.

@Top Weeb  ego protection.  Which is exactly why he can’t understand “how over the top pants-crappingly insane the shit he just pulled” was.   He mentally convinced himself that he really was the victim.  First on the car ride home and again after he was incarcerated.

If he thought he was completely justified why would he lie so much about what happened?


this guy is insanely  wreckless, in Texas 1/4 white men r like this by the way

As a guy with 5 other brothers I'd say it's closer to 1/3 haha


Why didn’t he stay for his son’s whole reception instead of bringing the dog and leaving early?


I honestly don’t get why someone in this situation who is obviously guilty or at least responsible for the death of a teen, and just not admit your I’ll intention. He’s already dead, wether you did because you were afraid or because you just didn’t like the music is minor. If you racist you rascist, if you scared you scared, don’t be a racist then retract under ppl eyes


Rhonda clearly blames herself for all this happening, cause she wanted to stop and get the wine.

Wondering if it made her quit drinking...........

@IAmLegend English has rules for a reason lmao

Guys, this just shows why you don't get married. She'll throw you under the bus. And then a bunch of women on youtube will agree with her.

Everyone is entitled to have a few drinks on a night out without the risk of pumping a clip into someone.

As she should have. And then she left the scene of a murder

I don’t feel that bad for her. She’s been with him for 4 years......she has seen his evil many times before.

Shit I didn't think of it that way. Who knows for sure if that's what she's thinking. I think it's likely, yes, but that is a very good point. Maybe she thinks that, and if she did, maybe she also thought yes the wine was my idea but he could've come in with me so as to not deal with the music so he says.

Why would she blame herself. She obviously doesn't anyway?

She might blame herself because she saw the signs and knows she shouldn’t be with such a person

@biscuitbear lmao it's a 17 year old teenager lol.

To be honest…. Bc this seems to shed light of his character…. She could have just as well saved her own life since he is so trigger happy…. I’d hate to see her get outta line.

@AK  I disagree that SHE has ANY responsibility in this, and her actions afterwards demonstrate this. She probably (unconsciously) made the very basic assumption that she could leave her fiancée in the parking lot for 5 minutes while she got a bottle of wine, and not worry about him murdering a child.

He is completely and totally at fault here and I very much agree with the second part of your statement. He didn’t like the way a Black kid was talking to him so he decided to react aggressively and escalate the situation in a deadly way, 00% regard for the human lives in that vehicle, 100% care for his own ego and not tolerating it being stepped on. I have a feeling he feels sad for the consequences for himself, but glad for the outcome of the boy being dead.
This guy seems very much like someone with narcissistic and/or antisocial personality disorder, showing no real emotion or regard for any of what happened, besides slightly when it actually implicates his guilt.
His total lack of emotional responses and ease of telling lies, and various disturbing commentaries, is all very concerning.

If I was engaged to him I would definitely need bottles of wine.

@AK For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16😁

@TheStickyDynamite For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16😁

It's not nessesarily that she blames herself, but rather she knows that had she not requested to make a stop for wine, then none of it would've happened. As much as she recognizes her partners actions were not her own, she can't help but feel somewhat responsible for what happened.

4:40 given her age she might take that guilt with her all the way. Ironically she really probably learned via the hubby to victim shame herself

^ he is the person responsible for the life lost that night

@Yuri Tarded it’s literally no ones fault, but the shooter himself

@jessica or the store clerk that took too long to sell the durango drivers cigarettes

@biscuitbear or the person who shot at them

Hopefully some day she comes to realize the incident was completely the fault of the guys who had their music up too loud.

@AK the only person responsible for the outcome of that scenario that happened like that, and his own failure, is the shooter himself. rhonda had no idea in her mind that her fiancé would do something like that, nor had no way of predicting the future and knowing that would go down. and yes i agree, it’s sick, definitely believe it was racially motivated as well, and it’s genuinely saddening that, that had happened.

this is why you don't drink alcohol kids, one minute you stop at a gas station to get a bottle and the next you're facing life in prison without the possibility of parole

@Sarah S he obviously doesn’t mean set up in the literal sense

@TheStickyDynamite exactly, wanting to get a bottle of wine after a celebratory family event isn’t a set up, idk what they are thinking 😭

@AK set his ass up? She's not a psychic bruh how was she supposed to know this would happen?


A question to Americans from an European - how are you guys not scared to live in a country where someone can just pull out a firearm and shoot you over something trivial?

I think it depends on where you live . If you would love somewhere up north where the gun laws are more strict the chances of someone shooting you would be higher. But down in the south they just passed a law to make it so you don’t need a license to conceal carry a weapon, so you never know who’s gonna have a gun. I think that’s why the massacres tend to happen more up north .


Rhonda is getting split in half while he spends the rest of his life in prison.


His name might be Michael but his voice is Toby and the logic is Jean..


His fiancé has to be one of the nicest voices I’ve ever heard, so brave of her to testify against her own fiancé because she knew what was right

@Gerald Bouey if she had planned to defend him at all she wouldn't have said the absolute truth at the police department she would have atleast left some minor details but she didn't, it's annoying to see people try to discredit her by saying she was only saving Herself

@dris If Michael didn't know he was being arrested until near the end of the interview, how much more do you think she knew? She gave essential evidence against him without knowing the whole story or that he was being placed under arrest.

How could she dispute anything she said during the interview if she decided to try and help him later on? Her testimony would immediately be thrown out the window.

I'm not disputing her character, just that it wouldn't make sense for her to even try and defend him.

she was. she was understanding of the situation and stood for what's right. she is a really good person.

@Gerald Bouey if she intended to defend him she would have done it since the police interrogation, she's just a good person doing the right thing.

@Dunker Bunker I think that aside from doing what is right, she also knew that it was in her best interests to testify against him. The man murdered some stranger for no reason, I think she knew that it could have just as easily been her who died

@Gerald Bouey my point was more so that she didn’t feel tempted to bend the truth, unlike a lot of other people who would do that to protect their loved ones

Or she testified because otherwise she'd incriminate herself by contradicting everything she said while interviewing with the police prior.

Or could be a bit of both. Either way justice found its way.

it was her boyfriend, whom she soon after dumped.


I just wanna know what Micheal was thinking? Shoot some people over a disagreement? Talk his way out of it and say he was in danger? He's delusional.


It seems disrespectful to put ads on content like this in the first place but the clorox sponsorship is a little much


Almost forgot to watch Mike convict himself today


I am not defending the man, but I do think that when strong young men (of any color) have their tempers up it can be very intimidating.

Yeah I am sure "rum & coke" parked next to them because he felt intimidated


I feel sorry for his fiancee, she seemed so disturbed by the events. She stayed honest, and showed remorse for the unnecessary death.

She feels guilty because it was her idea to stop and get wine


He shoulda married Rhonda. She wouldn't have had to testify. But he might have been a piece of crap boyfriend too. I wonder how this would have played out if he wasn't narcissistic enough to talk to the police and hired a lawyer? Also, he left the scene because he was most likely drunk.


He hates thug music so he acts like a thug🤷🏽♀ ohhh ok🤔


poor dead kid   Over a radio <br>Poor lady she’s been they alot it seems too

poor dead kid   Over a radio
Poor lady she’s been they alot it seems too


i believe he has no remorse nor feels guilty but i have a strange feeling he’s telling the truth - just refuses to admit it was a genuine mistake and that he is sorry.


Mike is definetly a scary guy. luckily he was stupid enough not to ask for a lawyer right away.

@Isbandiyah M. TH sadly it would... i repect lawyers but at times its a sin.

@blazeaglory thats correct but hed still need a lawyer at some point to get him out of the mess he got himself into.

Ignorance and stupidity are not the same thing.

Dont even need a lawyer. Just need to claim the 5th amendment

Lol the only reason he got so "brave" was because of the gun he had on hand. Let's see how he holds up in prison without one.

Josefine honestly without a gun or anything that could resemble a gun in the car his case would still be weak... Ofc there wouldn’t be all these inconsistencies in the stories he made up on the go any time he asked, disregarding any former stories


Designer, this guy reminds me of Timmy Turner. "Kill everybody 🚶♂, turn turn down the music, b4 i kill everybody walking.


Also, the black guy interviewing him says "do you know which one you hit"? and he immediately said "I hope it's the one that I shot"!!! Also, I believe it was a hate crime that stemmed from racism, he just would not look at that man interviewing him, I think it's because he was black.


Always! Always! ALWAYS! Even if you’re innocent ask for a lawyer. Also NEVER accept gifts from police such as food or drink all they want is dna


Summary: Guy calls kids thugs, then acts like a thug himself.

@s103792 “thug” is their acceptable replacement for the n word.

Guy calls kids thugs, but previously did horrible things to his ex-wives.

"Black kid play the shooty bang music, I had to defend myself."

Classic projection for sure. This man was definitely looking to start trouble.

Pyropell One connection you could make is to stereotypes that Asian people are bad I’m driving, now of course calling someone white bad at driving is not going to be anything offensive. You can even say that to an Asian and if it’s true that’s fine but, if they are good at driving and you call them bad at driving because their asian, that’s wrong.

Pyropell That’s the direct definition but it’s used very often to describe Black people. They say it meaning the definition you use, but usually it’s not warranted, and the only reason they use it is to justify their actions against said people. To dehumanize them.

@MageofDoomsie it's not a racial thing. The word was around before there were blacks in america ffs

Yeah, he thinks teens are adults while has has the ego of a child (one with 50 years of shitty memories).

He didn’t say thug she edited what he said to cover up for him or maybe to avoid having to say it herself but we all know what he said and he uses that word all the time probably, when he called the prisoners animals he meant the same thing by that.

@Rose Cullen I did not know that people were taught to shoot at things that annoy them

@Rose Cullen idk, the word thug had been around for a long time. Bonnie and Clyde were thugs. The reason you probably think it means black people is because of all the focus on gang culture since the 80s, but society has used it to represent anyone who was a "trouble maker". I dont doubt this guy is a racist pos, but there is also truth that had he been black, this would have been just another Saturday night in my neighborhood. I can't even find a news story explaining the gun shots I heard the night before. That's the part that breaks my heart.

Hes a man they are boys. Get a hold of yourself

And he kept saying he was worried more would show up. Even when the detective said maybe they would come back and he corrected them saying or lie showing up. As if they are just some gang members with shooters right around the corner.

s103792 “waiting for another load of...thugs..”

Logan Mook idk from my experience I’ve not heard the word used or thought of with the connotation that the people it’s describing are black. I can’t find any reference to it originating as a derogatory term towards African Americans either. Now are there a lot of African-American “thugs”? Ya, our prison system is almost halfway made up of African Americans.   But I’ve heard white people described as thugs as much as I have African Americans. Btw, I am white and have taken African-American psychology and do charity work to help thinks like the male African-American graduation rates in the U.S

@Mez if you're from America than that's a very narrow view, as regardless of person use, the word is colloquially used as a racial epithet. As much as I would love to take racial connotations away from words, ignoring the history behind some of those terms can be really irresponsible

Omega Haxors we’ll, where I’m from a thug can and often does describe people off all ethnicities.

@MageofDoomsie people used to slap womens ass at work too as societies and people grow older what is and isn't acceptable change as people get wiser.

@Drd20 definitely it's a huge ego thing there's clearly a lot of insecurities in the actions of a man who would willingly murder young men cause they had a rebuttal

Yeah...Thugs because they listen to music. Apparently I'm a White grandmother, aka...a thug. Because I love music too! classic case of racial profiling. I'd love to hear his definition of a thug.

@MageofDoomsie It's not always a straight racial thing but it definitely can be and this sad situation shows how it can go to the extreme. Had these kids been white I don't think they'd be dead Micheal would've probably just thought "Stupid kids lower your crappy music" and gone on with his day but since they're black his thoughts shifted to "Oh these thugs are criminals" and looked for any reason to justify his killing.

@MageofDoomsieI think that that question comes down to personal perspective. Im honestly not sure how I feel. I certainly think anyone can perpetuate a stereotype, but I also think that the idea of generalizing an entire ethnicity due to the actions of a marginalized few is much worse than simply calling yourself one of the negative stereo types. Honestly tho I think if any black person wants to refer to themselves as anything that's purely up to them and not me

Logan Mook here’s a thing though, I have a black friend and growing up he would always call himself a thug (in reality he’d never hurt a fly), and as we got older he stopped. I asked him why and he said he was just perpetuating a negative stereotype and stopped. So is it perpetuating a stereotype if black/brown people use the term themselves?

@MageofDoomsie it's not a racial thing when used on white people, but is used towards black people to further the supremacist ideology that all black people are criminals. When not used on black/brown people, it's pretty much harmless

Omega Haxors I call my blond hair blue eye white little brother a thug when he’s acting a fool, didn’t realize it was a racial thing, just thought it was an adjective to describe any one who’s up to some mischief.

@bobafet106 maybe if people weren't taught to shoot at things they're annoyed at, a boy wouldn't be dead. What's your point?

Seeing as how thug is a doctrinal word used to describe black people existing, I would say this guy wasn't acting like a thug at all. In fact, those who use that word to refer to PoC are usually found to have ties to white nationalism.

@s103792 totally you can hear him almost mentioning it a few times

You know he wanted to call them the n word so bad.

@Mark Myers the commenter didn't say they were


This guy is completely detached from reality. Not only does he kill a kid over not liking „thug music“, but then also thinks he’ll get away with claiming it was self defense and is surprised that he is charged with murder. And on top of all that he thinks he is the „victim“ in the situation.

@Carl Panzram Yeah and nearly 80% of america is white while all the other races are less than 15%. That makes them minorities

@Scripted S. You clearly don’t know what a minority is, because black is definitely a minority in the US.

Doesn't like "thug music". Proceeds to fire his gun into a vehicle with the intention of taking someone out. Pretty much exactly what a thug would do.

@Basil it’s not murder if it’s self defense. Obviously this is not self defense, but I didn’t like you calling self defense “justifying murder.”

There’s some states where they have laws basically justifying murder as long as you can claim it was out of self defense and provide evidence. He was probably trying to rely on one of those laws but instead just failed miserably since there’s no justifying what he did

@Arch Bishop of the crusades oh please, he shot at the car thinking "he was gonna show those kids a lesson" and he wound up shooting that kid. He was already drinking and went back to the hotel and pretended like nothing happened. He might not be a racist 100000% but he for sure knows his rights and his privilages.

@Scripted S. I'm the type of guy who fucking hates when people bring up race just to do it (I'm white btw), but man how can you not see that this guy clearly thought he shot somebody that was not worth to live? If you add that with thinking all 5 guys were violent, they were listening to 'thug' music then yeah, the first thing that comes to mind is racism. I bet you that guy doesn't even think he killed a human being, I mean he not once mentioned he was sorry for what he's done, he's even boasting on the phone for being 'a victor turned to victim'...

@Scripted S. Anyone who isn't white in America is a minority.

He doesn't think he's the victim, he is portraying himself that way.

@Scripted S. you're saying no racism to see here?

@Jane Baker that’s what you got out of this? Maybe you’re detached from reality as well


3:21 how long have you known Mr done for.


What do you mean No Bond, I just saw the new James Bond with a Black 007. Michael would've loved her.


The way Rhonda says "that...thug music" you can feel the venom in Mike's voice through her discomfort. I feel so bad for her.

@Allen Madigan I’m so glad to hear you know your place ☺ takes the responsibility of explaining away from me ! ✨💜

@E N shhh you know too much to be dealing with us commoners, spare us from your soul crushing intelligence oh great and powerful YouTube commenter we are not worthy

@Mark not all.  Dax has recently inspired 10's of thousands of people to fight addiction with his amazing song "Dear Alcohol".  My life was pulled back from the brink thanks to Tom Macdonald.  I am 47 and just started liking some rap a few years ago and have learned that I was wrong.  In fact Tom Macdonald is completely against the drug and gang and money and cars and all that bullshit and raps about things to enlighten his listeners.  Give Tom's song "Castles" or "Angels" to see that rap and hip hop can indeed be good.

To be fair, that type of music is trash.

To be fair, that type of music is trash.

@E N you completely missed the sarcasm of my remark there partner.  The comment about people who get triggered was not meant to be literal.  But the rest of what I said I meant with all my heart.

@Rodney Bever no, you deserve to be removed making statements like this bud lol people must have respect for one another

@Allen Madigan ok yeah but also like it’s 3 17 year old kids trying to act tough and cool. You really think they are listening to Drake instead of Kodak Black? No way.

@commoguru literally what i said, i knew what time it was

@commoguru literally what i said, i knew what time it was

@Sir Dankleberry how dare the world around you not conform to your desires.  Life isn't about having it your way all the time.  It is up to you how you react.  Negatively or positively.  Choice is yours mate.  I choose virtue.

@Rodney Bever Yeah how dare someone get triggered over music because they're trying to sleep or study in silence.

@commoguru in most areas, it’s not illegal at all if it is illegal it’s mostly punishable by a fine :( def not worth loosing a life over that’s for sure

I also hear her potentially changing the actual word he used in order to not have this case turn into a racially motivated one, which it very well was, despite that not coming to light.

@sad satan Its not entirely about whats being said, but about the meaning behind it.
I listen to rap, i like it a lot, but purely as a art. I dont believe in killing cops, competitors, or being violent and misogynistic. A lot of rap artists do tho, and a lit of rap fans do too.

Do horrorcore artists and fans believe in murdering people?
If horrorcore would be extremely popular in a large Culture of serial killers, it would be something else.

@Playboi Gramsci It is depending on location & time of day. Noise ordinances are a thing, but they would not have been applicable here.

@sad satan no, saying that isn’t racist in itself, even though the man in the clip probably was

@commoguru it's literally NOT A CRIME AT ALL

@commoguru it's literally NOT A CRIME AT ALL

@Carl Panzram so is horrorcore serial killer music? is dnb junkie music? how is rap "thug" music? that's incredibly racist yikes

@najgorzej Saying "I hate that thug music" isn't racist, it is a fact.

@najgorzej Saying "I hate that thug music" isn't racist, it is a fact.

@Rodney Bever like I said in another comment - you're waiting for your wife in the store to get a bottle of wine, you're not at the drive in movies. Ignore it while you're there.

@Huskers12 What the heck has Brazil got to do with anything? I can't even work out which of my comments you were referring to.

@N L Wilson Boy you don't know much about Brazil then do you lol

@N L Wilson Boy you don't know much about Brazil then do you lol

@Carl Panzram it also bares to mention that I was like you up till a few years ago.  I was a metal head and the only rap on my play list was beastie boys.  I did not like what was being produced and assumed everything in that genre would be the same.  Then I found Tom Macdonald who have me a light to follow out of darkness that had became my life. A rapper brought me back from the edge of suicide.  I swear I will never again aloe myself to be judgemental over anything luke that ever since.

@Carl Panzram when was the last time you listen to hip-hop? Yep back in the 90s early 2000 some and I repeat some of it was like that.

@Carl Panzram dude...Tom Macdonald is a rapper who has saved countless lives through his music.  Dax is much the same way.  Yeah there is some rap that talks about bad shit but the dame can be said gor any kind of music.  Many artists are trying hard to get rid of that shit.  My point is you cannot make such accusations and still be logical

Anyone who gets that triggered over loud music deserves to be removed from society

Anyone who gets that triggered over loud music deserves to be removed from society

@Carl Panzram sometimes you just gotta think for yourself and appreciate art however you feel is appropriate. You could make the same argument about culture modifying behavior about a lot of stuff it’s just part of being human. Not all rappers associate themselves with criminal behavior and those that do are often ostracized by those who hold themselves and their practice to a higher standard. Most people don’t have the faculties to think for themselves when it come to culture so maybe artists or whoever controls PR for artists should hold themselves more accountable for the messages that might be construed from their art, but that kinda seems anti free speech

@Allen Madigan Ofcourse its very diverse, not all rap is about crime and violence, but most of it is.
A lot of Poprap is also about crime and violence.

And of course just listening to it doesn't mean anything, but bring involved and assimilating to that culture DOES mean something. In my social environment there are plenty of people who sell drugs and glorify violence and crime, and the reasonnfir that is that they are CONSTANTLY sorounded by "idols" who talk about that stuff, and then they are also sorounded by peers who also sorround thesmelves in that culture.

My little brother of 12 and his friends litteraly want to be criminals when they grow up. Its not just some juvenile stupidity, no being violent and criminal is something they actively idolize. They hate the police, they hate any authority, they dont respect woman, they dont respect their peers, they dont resoect the law, they dont respect anything.
This probably wouldn't have happened if their lead cultural influences would have been good.

BTW my brother has a healthy and functional home, a loving mother and father, me, my sister, a good neighborhood etc.

I dont know, i do think that it does corrupt people. It used to be a niche culture, it was young black people raooing about their life and its troubles in the hood. No one iutside of that environment though it had a meaning to them, it was simply music. Nowadays its just fake idiots peddling and glorifying a culture of violence and crime.

Talk shit, stabbed people, rob people, kill people, do drugs, sell drugs, be a prisoner a lowlife criminal. Thats NOT good.

Ofcourse people dislike it, and judge you for it.

Imagine someone listened and glorified nazi music eith texts that call for genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Yiu wouldn't want to have yiur people listen to that and idolize those "artists" and you wouldn't like people who do sorround themselves in that culture, right?

@Carl Panzram don’t generalize rap into thug music, might have been started and popularized by “thug culture” as you would put it but it’s a lot more than that. A genre of music such as rap, jazz, or rock has many sub genres under each category. Gangsta rap and big band swing jazz for example differs a lot from pop rap like drake or whoever and fusion jazz like snarky puppy, but they’re both considered rap and jazz. Music can’t throw a bad light on anyones character, that’s why there’s Christian metal music. It’s about the actual character of that person, someone who assumes that a person who listens to rap music is a thug for example is probably not that thoughtful or kind compared to their peers.

Well, it IS thug music.
Thats not even racist or anything like that, they litteraly constantly talk about thug shit, selling drugs, doing drugs, raping woman, killing people, killing police, being a gangster etc.

So, if it was your usual rap, it definitely was thug music.

I mean, it does throw a bad light on your character if you sorround yourself with a criminal Degenerated Culture.

Its not "black" culture to be a violent rapist Murderer is it? Its thug culture.

Hes probably still a racist, it does shines through. But still, this particular statement is entirely true, in my opinion.

I too listen too rap, but still, its NOT anything to be proud of. Selling and doing crack or opiates, doing SERIOUS crimes, taking lifes. Thats some toxoc stuff, and it DOES corrupt the minds Of young people no doubt.

@Timmy Vawwter What did you originally say I'm kinda interested?

@Timmy Vawwter What did you originally say I'm kinda interested?

@Tc Clish he called them thugs after presumably watching the video explaining that they were just normal ass kids, calling them thugs for playing loud music is where race came into play. Bc what other reason would he feel the need to label them thugs

@Voil Velev oh damn it's Timmy's alt account

@Voil Velev oh damn it's Timmy's alt account

@LOTTO Оh no, someone wrote his own analytical opinion. Lets make fun of him!<br>Grow up.

@LOTTO Оh no, someone wrote his own analytical opinion. Lets make fun of him!
Grow up.

@Tc Clish He literally was implying that it was about race through his entire comment. I agree with your sentiment but this was literally was just racism lmao

@Tc Clish nah I think that guy was racist

@Tc Clish nah I think that guy was racist

@Timmy Vawwter You don't get to act as judge, jury and executioner for any crime. No society on earth accepts killing people for minor offences. The problem here is not primarily with those being discourteous to others, it is with a certain class of person (usually white, male, middle aged and middle class) feeling they need to prove they're a man by shooting someone that doesn't show them the respect they believe they deserve.

I thought she said "dub music" but could have been wrong.

I thought she said "dub music" but could have been wrong.

@SusuSketches listening to loud music in public isn't any kind of felony, simple misdemeanor at best.

@Timmy Vawwter dude just say “we live in a society” and save yourself the trouble of typing an essay’s worth of Joker-tier monologue

@Timmy Vawwter sadly this life isn't black or white, people esp young ones are loud, annoying or break minor laws - even stealing beer from a gas station is - in my mind - not a reason to take or threaten a life. I get where you come from with your reasoning, life is still much more valuable than a simple felony like listening to music too loud in public. There are steps you can choose to take before threatening or hurting people. Usually children who lack the ability to articulate themselves they become frustrated and often switch to aggressive behavior. If that issue is never resolved this turns into a grown adult acting that way, easily triggered by small things. They are often in a ego-driven state and justify their actions through pointing out other peoples failures. Imo taking anyones life or even threatening that can never be justified over one simple mistake a stranger does. I myself was in a state of mind similar to this as teenager, I hated people and glared at them judging each step but it's simply not fair. It's not the others. It was me and I changed my thought process, starting self reflecting my actions and adapted. It's not easy if you didn't grow up in a "happy family setting" but - let's be honest - most people don't have it easy and we can't assume anything without talking to them in depth. Everyone has a story. I choose no violence until my life is in true danger, what would you choose?

@Timmy Vawwter oh right, you just have to make it like "you can't speak the truth nowadays or you'll get hated on" to justify your racism. listening to music isn't a crime, killing someone is. yeah, it wasn't the best of them to blast the music back again but that doesn't make it in any way okay for michael to pull out a gun. he literally did it because they didn't co-operate with him about such an insignificant issue like the volume of music

@mur No, thank you.   I prefer the truth.

And, apparently, just speaking truth is now considered the new "hate speech" unfortunately.


Interesting comments 🙄 Exactly why I am glad he will rot in prison and while he is rotting I’m sure he won’t be telling anyone to turn down the music 😎


"All these things you're saying are great, but..."


His entire defense is literally just “so anyways, I started blasting!”

So you are correct, AB'S USE of the English language is atrocious and puts him in such a different lower status quo grouping.

@Bail So if that was rock music playing with whites boys you think he would’ve shot them ?  You don’t have to get recorded saying the n word to be racist.  His actions speaks for itself.

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected Yes.

@John Russell Self defense against mean hurtful words. :(

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected how do you know he is racist?

They were 4 young blacks. That's all the defense you need.

@Big Chungus Clip Channel 2 We don’t know that though.  Not all black kids that listen to loud music will be criminals either.  It’s just culture.

I watched Deathwish 3 and thought, yes...

@Jack better in the method of approach i meant

“And i did it very fast and accurate with no military training!”

@mc Frank has admitted to killing numerous people, mostly in his sweatshops in Vietnam.

@Owl the Reviewer Pretty sure he was joking, but yea, I agree.

I was listening, taking it all seriously and then this comment. Damn that was a good laugh

Someone posted this exact comment a year ago 🤣🤣

don't compare him to frank reynolds lol frank's a lot better than that

@John Russell No lol

There are self-defense cases that are 100% justified. This isn’t one of them.

That's basically any self defense argument lol


who does he think he is? robert de niro?


Other than dating a racist who had just committed murder, and buying wine at a gas station she was having a pretty good day.


Rhonda's voice shaking as she recounted the events broke my heart. I can only imagine the amount of guilt she holds for Jordan's death. i wish her and the other boys in the car the absolute best.

@Mistress Mara talk about having to handle someone with kid gloves. geez lady, how old are you to be that nervous?

Her hand shaking in the beginning is what got me

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especially since she was the one who wanted to stop for wine...i feel bad for every victim in this situation..


Why do we keep getting these videos taken away and brought back 🤣


When they showed the father in the begining ..while the woman was crying talking about punk ASS CHARLIE .DUDE WAS JUST SHAKING HIS HEAD .


What’s up with a bunch of the videos being unlisted and videos such as this one being relisted? Some really good ones were wiped.

They made a deal wirh yt and they will be coming back


I don’t like other people’s music either but in order for me to have freedom to play the music I like in public, I have to allow them their right to play their music in public.


Even if you believed even 1% that he feared for his life, how disturbing that he didn’t freak out when he’s told the kid didn’t have a weapon.  He just shrugs.

herogibson what would he have to do in order to convince you then? We can’t make any obvious inferences from people’s behavior now? Does this man have to say “I AM A RACIST” in order for it to be obvious?

@Pete Olivarez i think he thought they were gang members he was definitely racist.

Pete Olivarez FINALLY SOMEONE BRINGS THIS UP. I have been searching comments to see if anyone else was thinking this reeks of racism.

@Pete Olivarez yep.  we definitely for a fact know he was a racist.  great observation!  have you considered monetizing your mind reading abilities?

lauren bader because I am your grandma and said so

That's a racist who had been keeping that to himself for years.


where is the part where they interrogated the woman? did it get removed


He goofy he think if he had a shotgun he would have time to reach for his gun and shoot before he got shoot with a shotgun


Only thing criminal about crimes is having to pay to call out of a jail cell.


As soon as he said that Micheal shot a vehicle 10 times because of loud music, I knew it was a racist moviated case

@Pony Kazy I might if you caught me in the wrong mood ;) Certainly Beiber.

@fred bloggs ah yes, I know so many people show were shot for blasting Taylor Swift 😔 Such a shame loud music brings so much anger to people. /j

well that depends entirely on the genre.


Detective 1: “what were u shooting at?”
Michael: “ at the rear door”
Detective 1: “ what was the purpose of that?”
Michael: “to save my life”
Detective 2: “ from the door?”
😂

I literally want cameras to follow all of their interrogations. These detectives were funny

Lolll was zoning out reading this comment right as he said it and had to back up.


Unfortunately a large number of people in this country have zero idea as to what is accepted as self defense or not ..!!


I feel so terrible for Rhonda. She is so strong.


I really respect his fiance; he tried to manipulate everyone, including her, and she told the truth regardless. Regardless, this was a disgusting waste of life of a young man who did nothing to aggravate a shooting. I hope he rots in jail, and I hope the family of him and the three other victims are healing from the trauma. This was disgusting to every degree.

@Nathan Harrington  I think it was the part of the conversation where they threw F-bombs at him, which they confessed to. And because no dialogue is mentioned after they said that they were talking to him, I think he then proceeded to say what Witness #7 heard and unloaded his gun on them. Anyway, that is just my perception.

@Nathan Harrington I believe it's when the teens turned the music back on (truly dangerous behaviour) and he 'couldn't tell if they were singing or what' (paraphrased) but they were saying things like 'I should kill that bitch'. He rolled his window down and asked 'are you talking about me?' (which is different to their report of him saying 'are you talking TO me') and one replied 'yeah i'm talking to you'. He then claimed to see a 'barrel of a shotgun or stick' (two very easy mistakes to make, obviously) despite the fact no gun or stick was found in or near the vehicle, took this as an immediate threat to himself and pulled his gun out. One witness claimed he heard him say 'no, you're not going to talk to me like that' as he clocked the gun back. He then started firing at the unarmed teens, got out his car and fired another round AFTER THEY'D STARTED DRIVING AWAY. His fiancé then exited the store after hearing gunshots and he demanded her to get in the car and drove off to a hotel where he had pizza and walked his dog whilst 'fearing for his life'.
The genuine absurdity of the situation and his pathetic attempt to defend such a disgusting attack on young black teens (who already face enough pathetic racism and stereotyping) who were unarmed and had no track record is ridiculous and sickening.
I hope he rots in jail and experiences all the pain, torment and fear that the victims and their families experience daily, especially since they lost an only son and a friend. He is worth nothing, he took an innocent life and tried to be the victim. We make mistakes, some worse than others, but his lying and manipulation automatically makes him disgusting and worthless. Prison is too good for him, but so is death.


That black detective wasn't having any of it.


The jury system kinda sucks though. P2W bullshit :/


because their music was loud? ppl are so entitled!


"In my mind, there was a gun". Okay, and in my mind, I'm a millionaire but, when I go to the bank, the tellers say I only have 63.76 in my savings account. Clearly, the bank doesn't understand that if I want something to be true, then it's true. That's how reality works.

in my mind, I'm on a yacht in Monaco slurping caviar out of oyster shells in my hot tub full of playboy bunnies. are you saying I'm being wishful?

@Tim Stout I’ve got about $3200 because I just got my income tax back but with Michael Dunn’s type of thinking I’m going to make it into 3.2 mil

I've only got $45.00<br>Rest in peace, Jordan.

I've only got $45.00
Rest in peace, Jordan.

LMFAOOOO ! ZING! hahahaha Bro this has to be pinned to the vid lol

This whole situation is not funny. But your comment made me laugh out loud lol

@David Gilbert I'm joking, I'm getting by okay. I live pretty comfortably :)

@My new channel Don't worry, people tell us that all the time. You just did!

63.76? You just came up with that number? Or is that actually your bank account?

@StrobeLightGaming pfffft 267 I have -357.33 get on my level fool! 😂

In my mind, I'm dating Kim Kardashian.  Then I wake up and realize I'm having a nightmare.

@StrobeLightGaming i have 4 dollars to my name now wish me luck bud

In his mind he had a million bullets in his gun so that was true


The Prejudiced mind will always act like him....He is not to be blamed......


Half of all your videos just got deleted and I was watching 1 of them. What happened?


Just imagine, if he had the brains to shut up and demand a lawyer, he'd probably be free right now. Lucky for the rest of us, he was an idiot and got what he deserves.

Hope Springs-A-Turtle luckily 99.99% of cops aren’t like that

Michael B I think you read my reply incorrectly. It’s a response to the original comment.

knowthycell did you watch until the end? He got multiple life sentences and denied appeals

I don’t know about FREE, but he might have some hope of seeing the light if day again.

Sounds like people in this thread have never been locked up or been through the system. People need to stfu

He wouldn't have been free but he wouldn't have giving them all these lies. The police said, there were other witnesses in the area.

@robert sebold yeah. If I remember right he was also taking care of his girlfriend.

@Hector Perez yeah thats it.. his testimony was heartbreaking.  i felt bad for him

@robert sebold hes a kid living in his car.

@Rolanda Loathe i watched the trial.. a homeless guy that had warrants came forward.

I actually would keep silence except for immediately demanding an attorney, even if they accused me of stealing the Statue of Liberty or - in my Country, Italy - the Coliseum...

Is that a good thing considering he shot and killed a kid for playing loud music?

@ComplexWork Unless you're a cop who is chasing a guy who just discharged shots.

He was relying on the having the police perceive young, black men as inherently threatening and dangerous and his white, male privilege.

He actually thought he was more clever than the police, that's what fucked him up! He thought he wasn't in any trouble but realised when they said this is NOT one of them cases where you did the right thing! I thank God the jury got it right! Rip jordan.

his type always think they can talk their way out anything. He thinks he is smarter than everyone.

Nah. He would have been convicted. Too many witnesses saw him shoot the kid. They took down his license plate and it is undisputed that he drives the Volkswagen, owns the gun, and was the only person in the car WITH THE GUN at the time of the shooting. He got out of his car for Pete's sake and was still shooting in a stance!--because the woman was in the store.  Talk or no talk, he's going away.

Here’s a software developer who lacked the common sense to ask for an attorney.

carrie8083 well said. Once someone starts to evade you have to stop shooting because it longer becomes a threat.

I doubt he would be free w/ all those witness testimonies.

Maxxx Models ALWAYS ask for an attorney...right away..

He likely still would have been convicted of attempted second degree murder for firing at the car as it drove away. The three passengers were not in conflict with Dunn at all, yet he continued to fire. Yes, we’re lucky he’s off the streets. He’s extremely dangerous.

WesMan because he’s narcissistic and thinks he’s smarter than everyone. Like the staged call to Rhonda, not helping at all but thinks he’s being strategic

Well said. Why on earth wouldn't you keep your mouth shut and demand an attorney be present?

Yeah it’s hilarious how clueless he was when it came to dealing with the cops. He totally incriminated himself then asked the detectives if he should get a lawyer as if they’re there to help him out. Pretty sure one of them smirked at his naïveté when he asked that.


what was he the victim of huh?? loud music??


He was lie and let lie,all those guys were doing was buying snacks and were getting ready to leave thats why they turned music back up,his intent was trouble,because he did not like the loud music,he started it and ended it,middle aged and showing  toughness or so he thought a misunderstanding.


I feel so bad for Rhonda. She is so very aware of the bigger picture.

Nn Bb very true. me and my friends have been drunk and pissed off countless times, and we’ve never even laid a hand on anyone, let alone KILLING someone!!! even someone with real bad anger problems wouldn’t kill someone if they had any empathy or remorse

max stamb alcohol lowers inhibitions but that means he has that within him to kill without those inhibitions. Murder and rape under alcohol influence isn’t because of alcohol, even if it was a catalyst, it was only a catalyst for what was already within that person

max stamb i know what you mean but also he was sober when he showed absolutely no remorse. he’s a killer at heart

@Max "but I still don't see Dunn as a monster " start with this so people know youre foolish before they read

@Max alcohol just sped up the inevitable, he was clearly thinking about it before he shot the gun so how was he not a killer before he drank alcohol. Of you kill someone it means you've been thinking about sober alcohol just gives people more balls

@Max doesn't matter what you think. Fact is he murdered someone... a kid.

She’ll be ok she can find another man Jordan parents can’t get another rson

@E M you are completely correct. Dunn has run through this scenario countless times in his head. His fiancee said that he always talked about how he hated "thug music." He himself talks about how he'd practice at the range and rehearse a situation similar to this. He wanted the chance to do this for a long time and maybe the alcohol helped a little, but a few drinks only helps to reveal the true man underneath

@E M It's the correlation...He wasn't a killer beforehand and was under the influence of alcohol when he decided to open fire..I'm only saying that a sober brain <b>probably</b> would have approached the situation differently than an intoxicated brain..At the end of the day it's still his fault, I just think it's sad that alcohol played a part in ruining his own life and taking the life of another..Also it wasn't even brought up in the video but, he was also driving while under the influence and we all know how much they tell you not to do that, and there's good reason why they tell you not do that

@E M It's the correlation...He wasn't a killer beforehand and was under the influence of alcohol when he decided to open fire..I'm only saying that a sober brain *probably* would have approached the situation differently than an intoxicated brain..At the end of the day it's still his fault, I just think it's sad that alcohol played a part in ruining his own life and taking the life of another..Also it wasn't even brought up in the video but, he was also driving while under the influence and we all know how much they tell you not to do that, and there's good reason why they tell you not do that

@Max I think it's hilarious everyone just blames alcohol for everything. You don't just turn into a killer because of a bit of alcohol!

She knows that if she never wanted to stop for wine, this whole incident would have not happened, she probably blames herself in some way. Honestly I think the murder and Dunn's perspective / perception was heavily influenced by the alcohol he was drinking at the wedding..I don't buy the whole "he's a monster" narrative, just an inebriated idiot with pre-conceived notions that ended up costing a young man his life and ripping him away from his family...They really threw the book at him though...I have no idea what was actually running through Dunn's mind  when he decided to open fire, though I'm sure it was alcohol influenced (which doesn't excuse it)..It's tragic for the victims family but I still don't see Dunn as a monster...there's a lot of elements at play here and maybe he's a racist bigot with a giant ego, or he could have been genuinely afraid and reacted in what he thought was justifiable...maybe a mix of both?


That's why guns should be restricted to people with responsability and training.


The sense of entitlement. Is it rude to play music loudly? Probably (not blaming the victims here, just making a statement about Michael's entitlement) That being said, you're in a public fucking place. Don't like it? Too bad. Stay in your house the rest of your life.


Rhonda is a beautiful soul. Her ex is a coward!

Well she was attracted to him enough to agree to marry him. She doesn't sound like a 5/5 person either. Still sad.


Jordan's mother, Lucy McBath, became an activist AND U.S. Congresswoman (GA-6) after her son's murder. She had two sons - one passed in 1993, and the other was murdered. Heartbreaking. 💔

so,..another useless politician in other words

@Christian Loves Sonic the Hedgehog y u so mad man

@Michael McCray You’re just mad because your parents are siblings. 😂

@Nugget It’s obvious that you’ve never felt the touch of a woman. 😂

@blueroses That's because I'm correcting his incorrect premise. You're welcome!

@Nugget wow i didnt know tired was spelled m-a-d.😵

@Michael McCray Are your parents siblings? LMAO!

@TheBenjammin5150 Jordan was an innocent child who was murdered by a stupid murderer. Thank God Michael will spend the rest of his life in prison.

@M.J.E. He’s never been arrested before, no weapons and the other son died as a child. To blame the parent for what a racist did and what someone else did to her eldest child says that you’re no different than this racist, murderous criminal…so who’s the “thug”? lol 😂

@Michael McCray Sure I'll come visit but I can't leave my suburbs for to long. My unicorns can't take care of themselves. Duh they're not magical unicorns. Thanks for the invite homie! That's mighty white of ya! Have a great day!!☺

@Corinne Givens it is so obvious that you live in a suburban neighborhood in a bubble of unicorns fairies and other pleasantries

Please visit the west side of Chicago around Pulaski and 290 and you'll see how these "good parents" have their kids active running around on corners where crack and heroin is constantly being sold and used

AND BEFORE THERE IS A FLOOD OF HATE RESPONSES

This is the ABSOLUTE NORM in these communities then when their kids die in a gang shooting which so often happens they get on the news and cry and cry when in reality

THE PARENTS SHOULD BE THROWN IN JAIL FOR CHILD ABUSE/NEGLECT

@Corinne Givens it is so obvious that you live in a suburban neighborhood in a bubble of unicorns fairies and other pleasantries

Please visit the west side of Chicago around Pulaski and 290 and you'll see how these "good parents" have their kids active running around on corners where crack and heroin is constantly being sold and used

*AND BEFORE THERE IS A FLOOD OF HATE RESPONSES*

This is the *ABSOLUTE NORM* in these communities then when their kids die in a gang shooting which so often happens they get on the news and cry and cry when in reality

*THE PARENTS SHOULD BE THROWN IN JAIL FOR CHILD ABUSE/NEGLECT*

@M.J.E. you misspelled “that poor mother , I wish her peace ❤”

@Michael McCray I'm sure will be hearing your name in the news Dunn was the thug not those kid's

@ari - wow they should have mentioned that in the video.  Seems like some interesting context to footnote at the end.

@Zona Uh, so what? I'm not wrong. Using terms wrongly makes those terms useless, and alienates those you wish to get a point across to.

@Nugget ur pretty condescending stilllll

@TheBenjammin5150 wishing for someone elses death just bc u disagree with them and then calling a 17 year old kid a disrespectful punk, hmmm...

She raised a disrespectful punk and now she wants to write laws based on emotions instead of logic. Great!

Well she will become an anti gun activists, blame the human not the machine

@Michael McCray Yeah, her first child was likely stillborn or died shortly after birth due to a condition that made it nearly impossible to carry her child to term.  The second was a typical defiant teenager murdered for blasting music bysomeone who got really offended by it.  Real thug life there...  🙄

Have a little humanity for chrissakes.

Damn, I knew who Lucy McBath was but I never knew that she was the mother of the victim in this case, and I've watched this video before.

@Caleb Reutener absolutely because Republicans have always supported the rights of ALL Americans. Not once have they tried to take the rights of minorities away, after all they are all about love, Jesus and fairness. Right?

Boosta said that cause she is one of the democrats taking our rights

God bless her soul, what an incredibly strong and impressive woman

@Nugget POV : You've never felt the touch of a woman.

@Ines J It's ignorant, yes. It's stupid as fuck. Misogyny doesn't mean either of those, so like I said, just pick one out of the bucket.

"It's ok though, keep spreading condescension!", making assumptions that I support him, yeah... it's okay though, I didn't expect much, lmao.

@Nugget blaming a woman for her child being killed by an unhinged stranger? And blaming her for the death of her other child about whose death they know nothing about? Yeah, to me it's plain misogyny when they are ignorant about a situation and instantly blame it on a woman who had nothing to do with it. It's ok though, keep spreading condescension !

@Ines J Is it racism, or misogyny... hmm, better pick one buzzword for the day.

@M.J.E. sort yourself out mate, i'm just going to assume you're trolling for a reaction. That's a very sad way to live but that's just the way people are.

@M.J.E. also her first son died when he was a child, no one mentioned gun violence. How about you self-reflect on your thinly veiled misogyny and get some therapy. Hope you’re happier someday.

@M.J.E. hey get some fresh air, your brain cells need it desperately


The prosecutor sounds like Kevin Costner.


When was this? Where there hate crime laws at the time?


the fake tears instructed by his lawyer jfc


You can watch almost all the JCS videos if you search “JCS unlisted”. There’s two playlist


his fiancee sounds like Eric cartman's mom


This guy fired ten shots into what was initially a stationary car at close range and only managed to hit one of the four occupants. With that kind of marksmanship, he belongs in the Russian army.

Michael is obviously a retired stormtrooper


the multiple times he told her "i love you, you know that?" on the way back home, is a clear form of emotional manipulation for her testimony, like he's saying "whatever i come up with, you will back, right?" and im happy she saw it

@HeyGuy4321 No way! He had no idea he was "going down"... did you see the shock come over him when he finally realized the interrogators weren't buying his fantasy? He is self deluded and narcissistic and acted in line with that personality type. I have seen this exact tactic in an abusive relationship before.

@HeyGuy4321 People who manipulate are OFTEN methodical in their tactics. And this guy wasn't some scared child who was in over his head. He sat there for an hour trying to fit the facts into the narrative he was constructing. He does this frequently because it's probably worked before. Was trying to comfort her? Maybe.

But two things can be true at the same time.

I agree is TSAR ALEXANDER II on this one.

@HeyGuy4321 there’s a difference between knowing your methods and knowing u are using them and naturally using it as a barrier to protect yourself. just like a cat has a instinct to prey on a noise. would be the same to him naturally trying to manipulate her with or without him fully knowing. no bullshit

Bullshit. He knew he was going down regardless. He was also just comforting her. Thats just whats true. No reading into bullshit. People are rarely so methodical with something like this happening


The world is full of lunatics.  But in USA everybody walks around with guns.. as if they are toys. frightening.


How in the world did he catch her?🤨🤨🤔🤔😓😓


Props to his fiancé for being honest and not protecting his ass.

She probably saved her own life. Who could guarantee this guy wouldn't shoot her in future getting angry, drunk and delusional someday?

@fawn she never knew he had shot someone.

@fawn You didn't listen.  He didn't indicate to her that he shot anyone, he only said that he shot at the car.

well she was on tape saying that, so i mean yeah props for not wanting a charge for obstruction lol

@Death2Boredom Hmmph! You're describing yourself. A few sniffles and a teeny voice and you're convinced?!!! Wow! I like fairy tales too but I love facts and analysis much better. Show me a human that's in love with a racist and I'll show you a racist!

@shaaronie I mean, if you're already drunk and the pizza is there why not. At the time you don't know if anyone is dead and there are no wounds on the person you're with. You weren't the one that shot and your also now stuck with the person that did fire a gun in public like it's nothing, best to just let the alcohol and pizza smooth things over.

@shaaronie As I said, I'm not seeing her as anything more than someone that did what you're supposed to do before going to the police as anything other than a victim. You seem to more want to live in a mystical world of purity and justice. Acting out of purity and justice can land you in jail.

@Death2Boredom Actually what she testified to is that they never discussed the incident much at all, after he explained the gun shots that she'd heard. She accepted his explanation that he'd simply shot at some "thugs" and went to the hotel and ate pizza and drank wine. She ate pizza and drank wine. Sounds like a party to me.

@Death2Boredom Pure speculation on your part. You're seeing her for what you'd liked to see and I see her for what she actually did. She either did the right thing or suffer the consequences. It's not like she had a choice in the matter.

@shaaronie huh? What does that have to do with anything? The dude himself is deluded and doesn't think he unjustly killed someone. Why should she? More so, of she did, why should she put herself in danger? The kid is already dead, she's not suggesting moving to Mexico to hide away. She suggested getting on home turf to collect their thoughts and better handle everything. My main point really has nothing to do with her character because regardless of character I think she did the right thing 🤷🏽♂. You don't run into a police department with your pants bellow your knees and a ketchup stain in your shirt unless someone just did something illegal to you.

@Death2Boredom Nope. Never happened. She knew who he was and what he stood for. He wasn't  the type to hide it.

@shaaronie I'm pretty sure she mentioned that she wanted them to go talk to their local sheriff. We know the facts of what he did, she doesn't. All she knows is that he felt the need to use his gun and that a life was taken. The police aren't your friends, especially if their not your local law enforcement. This wasn't him admitting to her that he'd committed a crime and even then its important to talk to someone you trust about what to do.  There's a reason that these videos are of people who didn't choose to wait for a lawyer and has moments where he even mentions that a lawyer would have told them to do things differently. You run to the cops if you're a victim, but if you're also potentially the aggressor/criminal you talk to someone you can trust within the law enforcement system first.

Beyond that though, of course you would want to be in a place you feel comfortable when you're not the person that shot somebody and are currently in the presence of that person. Emotions are a thing.

@Nacho Vinssac during her interrogation, she admitted that they'd bothof saw the incident on tv the next morning. Instead of suggesting that they call the police to report his involvement,she saidit she demanded to be taken home,  she did mentionedthat concern for her dog back home. I am sorry but her teeny tiny Melanie Griifin voiced and poor me tears did not cut it. If she had on mentioned that she asked Dunn for more details, or anything along the lines of care beyond herself,I would agree with you. I she did not care what happened, I she only cared about NOT being involved and of course poor Charlie, the dog.

@shaaronie Probably she didn't even know that he had killed a teenager. The policeman said it clearly: he luckily "only" killed one guy, but could have killed the 2 guys more shooting that way.

She probably had a lot of pent up feelings from being in a relationship with that psycho and needed to vent too.

@boccci honestly. She’s afraid of this man. Even on the phone call, it sounds like shes scared and just agreeing with him.

@fawn bro she was alone with a dude who killed over music - and you wanted her to directly oppose him? cannot ask that of any sane person

@madi She was merely looking out for her own self interest. According to Dunn, they barely discussed the incidence, had more wine and Pizza. She was afraid of lying for him as she would have been facing charges of perjury and acessory after the fact. She cared about saving her own life, not that of the boys. Again, after this incident, she drank wine and had pizza.

@fawn ever thought she might have been frightened of him?

She did protect him though. She never once called the police. Not at the gas station, not at the hotel, not at their house. She received a call from police at their house and that's the only time she started talking.


This guy should go to prison just for Lying


NEVER talk to cops. Also don't kill people.


"I'm the victor" nobody who had to actually shot and then kill someone in true self-defense would ever say that. You are never a victor when someone has to die.

@kish bish He wasn't in a life or death situation you think he's gonna get out and shoot with no cover if he's scared?! Why make excuses for him he's the WORST kind of person....he deserves what's coming, self defense my ass.

I think he has delusions of being a superhero or something-.

You win the exchange... but you lose things as a person when you look in the mirror and see someone who's had to kill someone.

All in all it is just tragic. That split second memory of pulling the trigger haunts you forever.

It's a loss in that most normal people would rather never have to kill anyone. Nobody wants that weighing on them.

Of course you are, in a true self defense situation. It's life or death