The worst part is, throughout the whole interview, he doesn’t ever show remorse, regret, sorrow, or shame for killing a 17 year old. Not even an ounce. Rot in jail bro

Donna Mellick I’m white,live in a black neighborhood,not scared at all,but maybe you’re right, I just don’t understand why people don’t let other people do their own things,we all gotta do the best we can to survive.

Trey Kennedy you’re right,man.All this shit over some loud music.WTF,man.Kid was only 17.

@Donna Mellick when a young lady was MURDERED for saying all lives matter, what do you expect?

my cats name I think he should get rewarded! Enough of this teens acting like thugs but at the end they are just soft

Yeah that’s what got me too, when the cops told him he had killed one of the guys he didn’t flinch, no surprise, no “oh shit I didn’t mean to do that”  “are the other guys ok” there was no “I was freaked out all night” no tears no “I’m sorry I overreacted” no apology to the parents

The only time that he got emotional was when he started talking about how screwed up this is because he was happy and wouldn’t spoil that
when he was on the stand at 52:35 he mentions Rhonda his partner and his body language screams “OMG I can’t believe how much I screwed up, and then he proceeds to cry, but, he’s only emotional about what he’s lost not what the victims have lost, that’s the only time I’ve seen any emotional or remorse from him. It’s terrible

Ben Thomas Because that’s how a normal person’s pathology would work. Even if you truly thought the boy deserved to die, you would still show some sort of weight for taking another life. He’s showing intent, by not showing any kind of guilty. Most people who legit where defending themselves, are still beside themselves for ending someone.

No remorse is clear and he actually said himself he was the victor” He clearly didn’t consider the life of this teenager valuable in anyway. He is scared of blacks and racist and definitely deserves to be in jail!!!

I get part of what you are saying but if his testimony is truthful or he needs to convince the investigators that what he is saying is the truth, why would he have remorse for killing someone who said "I'm going to fucking kill you" and then grabbing a weapon to shoot him. I don't believe his account but from his perspective it would make less sense to feel remorse about killing someone who was trying to kill you.

Addie Alexander but why? Have you ever been like, attacked by a black guy?

Donna Mellick I would say a lot of white guys are scared of black guys tbh. I’m a white dude and I used to live in Baltimore before I moved to hick town fucking USA,  and honestly, a lot of white guys, guys specifically, are really scared of black people it’s crazy.

Vantazzy I agree with most of what you said, that’s what generally intimidates white people, not the color of their skin, but more the behavior and attitude of SOME. But I don’t believe that it was fear that played the primary role, I think it was mostly anger and hate.

Yeah the whole time he was just worried what others were going to think about him. He didn't give a second thought about the fact he ended a young man's life.

@Donna Mellick i totally disagree with you... this guy would get recruited by KKC ( clan spells with a C moron) and ranked vice wizard on the spot after that achievement ( its not but it is for them) !

imagine fundraising inmates to deal with people like him ... the bathroom way, filming it and release it on thepiratebay?

@Iron Shredder people have every right to get angry at racists

Trey Kennedy
: Because he has no remorse.  In his mind, he got rid of one of "them".

Nah dude.
Like I appreciate what you mean on a purely humane level, but that's it, really bro. This guy, not even fucking once for a second, showed care he killed a human. During the whole thing I felt like he was caught slaughtering a hen for dinner.
That's what scary to me, he's lying like he's trying to justify backing over your dog last morning when he was taxing out of his garage.

Nah dude.
Like I appreciate what you mean on a purely humane level, but that's it, really bro. This guy, not even fucking once for a second, showed care he killed a human. During the _whole_ thing I felt like he was caught slaughtering a hen for dinner.
That's what scary to me, he's lying like he's trying to justify backing over your dog last morning when he was taxing out of his garage.

Without empathy, there is absolutely no reason for remorse.

Typical psychopath.. I can tell from the recording of the phone call at the start.

I'm not one to throw this word around, because I think it's just overused and saturated but.... he feels no remorse because he's a TRUE racist. That is what a real racist is. He hates black people and their culture and killing one to him was an accomplishment. He's not upset about the murder, he's upset about getting punished for it.

Addie Alexander they were right, at least definitely about the afraid part, at least in the context you put it in (in my opinion)

@Adrian it is definitely a problem right now that we are trying to get through. I feel like (or at least I hope) that after the current situations become better that we it’ll be better. It’s not totally correct, but I would say in a lot of places it’s true, sadly.<br>Edit: Also, society makes it seem that way, so that’s another part of the problems right now. Hopefully the protests will make it all (at least a bit) better.

@Adrian it is definitely a problem right now that we are trying to get through. I feel like (or at least I hope) that after the current situations become better that we it’ll be better. It’s not totally correct, but I would say in a lot of places it’s true, sadly.
Edit: Also, society makes it seem that way, so that’s another part of the problems right now. Hopefully the protests will make it all (at least a bit) better.

@Barry Shitpeas "Weariness." is the word of an aristocrat??" and you think it means, afraid?? Wow!

@Donna Mellick the more I read about America, the more I think statements like these are correct for the most part :(

@Addie Alexander You are just arguing semantics, you are admitting you're afraid deep down. "Weariness" lol. Wording it like an 18th century aristocrat doesn't change that

@Jesse K Ok, a hell of a lot of whites are scared of blacks. Better?

@Jesse K Sorry !I didn't mean to do that

Tread Knought it is creepy to see none though

Donna Mellick we are not afraid, I’d say for the most part it is weariness. Unless it’s a cop. I stay way clear.

Donna Mellick technical statistics show you would be more alive.


He killed a child and he's not at all phased, instead more worried about himself getting in trouble. So awful.

@Jay McDanieL  Stop insulting decent people.

A child ?  Or do you mean a 17 years old thug ?

@Jay McDanieL who ever told you that 13-14 is a minimum age to be tried as an adult is wrong considering that 13 states don't have a minimum age and Texas as a state has a minimum age of 10. I pointed this out in my original comment. Please re-read and do better research. Also cut back on the insults. It make you look childish and immature that you can't handle a rational discussion without sprinkling them in.

@Jay McDanieL I literally said that with Judge intervention they could be charged as an adult. But it was still up to the judge. So no I'm not arguing against that, and I don't know why you think I am... Barring that intervention though, they would still be charged as a minor.

As for the 12 year old part I was just using it as an example to point out the flaw in how you where saying child was a loaded term when legally it is a valid statement in the eyes of the law and how children of 12 or less could also be charged as an adult showing the dichotomy of the law/situation.

Mainly Im just pointing out how our legal terms do not match everyday terms and cant be applied the same way in a 1 to 1 situation

@Jay McDanieL Indeed they did, and when they got back they still weren't legally allowed to drink alcohol, and would still need intervention by a judge to be charged as an adult for a crime if they were under 18 when they got back. Pretty fucked up ain't it?

@Jay McDanieLThe kid was 17 years old. Legal age to be charged as an adult is 18, until then a person is still considered a minor in the eyes of the law, and it is up to the Judge along with the persons past history for whether they are charged as a Juvenile or Adult. So while child can be considered a loaded term, in the eyes of the law it would be, and is, a valid statement.

 In the eyes of the law a 12 year old (youngest age of criminal responsibility in all states, some states don't have a limit so even an 8 or 6 year old would be seen the same) is also considered a minor but could be tried as an Adult based on the same factors. Would you say Child is a loaded term for a 12 year old (or younger in some states) since they can also be charged as an Adult as well?

This is all irrelevant though as the facts of the matter are that the guy did kill a minor with no criminal record or even any violent associations in cold blood and showed no remorse about it.


Rest in peace to that young boy. This is such a tragedy, lying people, hating on other people's music. Clearly racist. Narcissistic and a vile person. No less than life in prison for this man.

I cannot stand that damned music so I would have moved or rolled up my window.  Who the hell should tell young people our music is better than theirs?


Dunn's wife loved him so much. So honestly... She loved him so much she refused to lie for him, and she looked him right in the eyes while doing it. He couldn't even look at her back. She deserved better than that. He didn't deserve her.

Jay Richest If they Were married, she couldn’t have been compelled to testify against him, right?

Maybe if she was his wife, she might have lied on his behalf.  He was just stringing her along, with the "girlfriend" scam or the "fiancé" (with no ring and no set wedding date), for an indefinite time period scam.  She was just a place holder, until he gets the next person, who he could lie to and control.

Such a shame michael dunn didnt show the same upset and hurt about shooting and taking a young mans life, so tragic and i must say the victims parents or whoever this video shown sat in court showed such dignity and poise whilst they probably wanted to scream at him so prayers to the victims family who still live with this tragedy daily 🙏

@How Not To maybe just intuition. From what we saw in the interview, she seems to be a genuine and honest person. Very loving and caring as well. She cried in trial when she was talking about her relationship with Dunn. She seemed so distressed and so sad for him...


Honey i dont think you should talk about it anymore....and you shouldn't tell someone to turn down there radio


43:10 - "You shot at the car door?"
"Yes."
"What was the purpose of that?"
"To save my life"
Detective: "...From the door?"

Detective Savage reporting for duty, sir.

“Detective Savage”

I’m done for the day.


“ I can’t shoot someone who in my mind has a weapon.” 🤔 well that’s ironic.


Everything aside, can we all just appreciate how nice the quality is for the court cameras? It looks like a damn movie, kudos to who ever made that decision.

Right? Holy crap, those court cameras were really good.

I noticed too, some Court cameras suck. It does look like a really intense movie scene.


"i was in fear for my life" if you were scared then imagine how the children being shot at by a middle aged psychopath felt.


"I shot at the door."
"What was the purpose of that?"
"It was to save my life-"
"From the door?"

@Coco Nut "have you seen Inside Out? That is the color of Rage, officer"

@Annalisa yeah i felt dirty typing it but here i am

I burst out laughing during this part. 😂

i read this as he said this... what great timing i also just love the investigator's humor its just my cup o' tea

I love the sass from the detective soon as there done extracting his bs narrative he just lets loose


This is one of those times where American justice is true and just. So sorry for the loss of a beautiful 17 yo young man.

@passe leegum exactly and had they been taught some respect they'd still be alive. Now I'm not making a excuse for Dunn but the facts are facts nonetheless.

@SouthJerseySound yeh ofcourse dunn is a psychopath but kids be like they are the greatest and strongest in the world, are extremely rude. Parents play a big role in upbringing, kids have to be taught how to respect.

@War Wolf You have no proof of that. How dare you try to justify someone's murder.

@Frank Drebin Considering he didn't attack a man with a gun, he was MURDERED by a man with a gun, idk what point you're trying to make here.

Yeah justice did good on this. To bad the law didn't.... He would have still been alive if there was a ban on guns.

@LazuliScarab He'd be alive if he didn't attack a man with a gun.

@SouthJerseySound He'd still be alive if some piece of shit hadn't shot them. He didn't die from the vibration of the music.

He'd still be alive if they had any respect and turned down the music. Not saying that Dunn isn't a idiot. But we all know that they were acting like punks

Zed Zul Zorander actually it’s not true, it’s a stereotype and those are usually based off opinions not facts.

@Bill Simmons lol what? 'Statistically, given that he was shot and killed by some random white guy for listening to music, he would have ended up dead or in prison'

@Bill Simmons yea he does...really sad case. How could you do that to someone :(

@ThePickledOnion It's quite true actually. Facts don't care about your feelings.

@Bill Simmons or perhaps maybe...he could have been idk... A PERSON not a statistic and even so what gives this guy the right to play god and kill a kid? Put yourself in the shoes of the parents of the child c'mon


It's quite scary that this man could quite possibly still be on the streets, still shooting children, had he just requested a lawyer during the interrogation.

@Moritz Dietrich In the video you can tell that in court he is much more confident and consistent, a ways more consistent and picky about what he says.

what would he have said with a lawyers advice?

Nope he was gone to the pen as soon as he pulled the trigger.

@Gabriel Massicotte-Rochon I'm from Australia and I think the laws over there need to change also. We have stricter gun control than Canada and, sure, people still get shot from time to time but it doesn't happen nearly as often as in the US, nor on the same scale. They have mass shootings all the time, we very rarely have them. It is far, far too easy to get a gun in the US.

The problem is the law in the US. Here in Canada, to get away with shooting someone, that person would have to shoot you also, you have to show equal force to be able to plead self defence. Also we have better gun control so you couldn't just walk with a handgun and it would be unlawful to use it that way. And guess what we have almost no shootings like that and we people use a gun for violence it is almost automatically a prison sentence.

Just change the legislation I really don't get your country...

He thought he was smarter than the law. That be the downfall of all dumb criminals

@Rachel Madden exactly. He believes it and he believes a LIE

Yeah luckily people like him are usually so detached from reality they just expect everyone to go along with their version of events. He totally thought he was strolling out of there with a pat on the back.

@Natalie I think you’re right on. And he totally thought those police would be like, yeah, you shouldn’t have killed the guy but we’ll give you a pass wink wink.

@Rachel Madden legally, this guy knew what he did was wrong but morally I do agree he thinks that his actions were justified

@Kent, Knight of Caelin I actually think it’s the complete opposite! They feel so in the right a lawyer isn’t even needed, they don’t feel like they have anything to hide, that they didn’t do anything wrong.

@Black2Black That's because subconsciously, they're ashamed of what they did.

Yes. I'm from Jacksonville and remember when this happened. I'm in no way condoning his actions but it amazes me how the majority of these guys/gals don't lawyer up...


The Detective that can be seen next to Dunn is so annoyed by him you can see it multiple times in the video.<br> It would be funny if there wasn't a 17-year old that died.

The Detective that can be seen next to Dunn is so annoyed by him you can see it multiple times in the video.
 It would be funny if there wasn't a 17-year old that died.

Tallon Qsack looool this moment!! It was almost comical if it wasn’t so shitty

Ragerodracir ——-I find that the most bewildering part. EVERYONE has had an annoyance while driving, tailgaters, comes across to occupy your space, won’t move at traffic lights, swervers, people cut in front & slowing or even stopping, but you leave it in your rear view mirror. You don’t engage with them because it’s MOMENTARY. This screwball not just engages but he kills a kid and he’s totally nonplussed by that! It’s amazing he’s lived this long and good for screwy Rhonda to go find another gem like Dunn.

The first time the black detective spoke up he turned to him in shock, like he wasn't supposed to be the one questioning him. He's such a racist pos. I loved when the detective just put his head in his hands lol

This, his pain and frustration with the situation was palpable

Your comment made me rewatch this video & You are correct


It's crazy to think what YT people have been getting away with for ages. R.I.P to the young man, speechless.


Does anyone know what song(s) was playing?


"They will begin to destabilize his thought process by inducing anxiety" - literally my own brain and the police have the same tactics

Worst of all is when you refuse to break so your brain goes old school cop style and beats the shit out of you with the neurological equivalent of a phone book, lol

Sad when your own brain uses police interrogation tactics against you. <b>chest pound</b>

Sad when your own brain uses police interrogation tactics against you. *chest pound*

This shit would be a lot more funnier if it wasn’t so damn true

@timestamps for good videos He's a puppet now

Ignorethespots Then you can personally understand how effective it is 😂


Fascinating case. Watched it thoroughly about a year ago before I discovered your channel. Glad I get to see your perspective.

Akash Gupta Not really. Like I said just search YouTube for police interrogations. Some go for hours so watch a bit and if it peaks you interest watch some more videos. Hopefully soon enough Jim will feature the criminal on his channel 😊

@- MuzikizuM - thanks! Do you have any recommendations of podcast or youtube channels?

@Rusty Shackleford thanks any other podcast? Or youtube channel like this?

I dont think it's that fascinating really, just a grumpy guy who gets angry when hes drinking liquor. Maybe he saw a gun maybe they ditched it when they left but most likely he just assumed they were probably armed being young and black. I doubt this would have happened if he was sober. Either way he never stopped to think about what he was doing and now hes gonna pay for it.

@Hmm <br>The podcast 'True Murder' is great. All info and no dumb jokes or fluff. Its great

@Hmm
The podcast 'True Murder' is great. All info and no dumb jokes or fluff. Its great

Akash Gupta search police interrogations. You’ll go down a rabbit hole soon enough.

I to remember it on the news very disquieting.

Where do you watch our listen to more true crimes like this? <br>I know some youtube channel and podcast exist but i dont know the names

Where do you watch our listen to more true crimes like this?
I know some youtube channel and podcast exist but i dont know the names


Imagine how horrifying that was for the teenagers.... U are just listening to music and all out of sudden a crazy man decides to shoot you because he is on a power trip. Its just mind boggling and scary. Something out of a horror movie.

First Last if only something knocked some sensibility into you

@Zob Rombie there's also a theory that neanderthals just breeded themselves into extinction.

@Mylena zvezta you are missing the point, I suggested he call the police for the soul purpose to show that is what most would do after they started threatening him and having the music up; only a lunatic decides to shoot people up, and even you don't call the police you ponder on it or ponder on at least kicking their stereo but never shooting them

@EGPMH no no no ! Why call the police for music. This is not in an appartment. If he feel bothered, he can go...

@EGPMH why to be bothered by that first ? And why to call the police for that ! Even if there is insults. I would be mad too...

@j K Apparently that's what happened here.

@L0WFIDELITY Is it that much of an insane concept to just swallow your pride and avoid confrontations all together?

See if they had shot back then this video would be about them lol.

@L0WFIDELITY you're just being paranoid. Asians are under attack!

I remember the same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Me and my friend were playing football in this small alley and there was a house near us. Everything was fine until this old crazy man ran out with a gun in his garden and pointed at us. Both of us ran and thankfully he just wanted to scare us away. Btw this man didnt give us any warning before he pulled out a gun. Idk why Its so hard for some people to act normal.

The dude probably lost his mind writing JavaScript code that day. Could happen to everyone in the software industry.

@Milktube <br>I thought they were like 18 or so. They prolly go to college and aren't living with parents any more. Parent wouldn't even know that their kids are causing trouble out there until this incident. It was lucky that there happened to be a psychopath parked next to them to scare them in to possibly becoming a more sensible citizen.

@Milktube
I thought they were like 18 or so. They prolly go to college and aren't living with parents any more. Parent wouldn't even know that their kids are causing trouble out there until this incident. It was lucky that there happened to be a psychopath parked next to them to scare them in to possibly becoming a more sensible citizen.

Hopefully the parents of those teenagers will teach their other kids to keep their music down in public and to not escalate situations with crazy people to avoid such horrifying fates. No matter how wrong or right your behavior is you should <b>deescalate</b>  situations when confrontations are happening, and of course avoid being a public disturbance in the first place to not attract crazies to confront you.

Hopefully the parents of those teenagers will teach their other kids to keep their music down in public and to not escalate situations with crazy people to avoid such horrifying fates. No matter how wrong or right your behavior is you should *deescalate*  situations when confrontations are happening, and of course avoid being a public disturbance in the first place to not attract crazies to confront you.

well, there are downsides to living in a  country where everyone is potentially armed

@Steven Schnepp if those kids were white would they have been shot in your opinion ? Ask yourself this and don’t assume my viewpoint of you or white people is that of racism. Because it’s not. But if you’re a sympathizer I assume you’re white as well. And In that case, it’s entire up to you to realize that what was done here was done based off prejudice. Nothing else

@Steven Schnepp I can see how you have this viewpoint but you’re unknowingly sympathizing with this man. No matter what the situation is. No one needed to die. And when I say white kids wouldn’t understand. It’s because they will not experience an eminent threat like this. I’m generalizing because the privilege that exist is obvious. Don’t gaslight me to try to come off as understanding yet debatable. It’s embarrassing

@Jenna Mattern exactly bro. White kids on YouTube comment threads will never understand. Stop gaslighting

This is a nightmare I have a lot. Me and my friends are having a great day and boom and I’m dead. Shits terrifying.

@Marie Bee they have no priors. They aren't criminals.

Tbh I turn down my music for this reason. People are crazy.

@Jake Fournier i agree. pls do not have kids. ur nuts dude

it only happens once in a while.. you just have to be lucky enough not to be there when it happens.

@Lucas Campbell not my point, point is if it truly bothered him that badly you do not whip out a fucking gun you call the authorities and pull the "disturbing the peace" card

@EGPMH it's music in a parking lot not a gang meeting

@EGPMH He should have just minded his own fuckin business lmao

@Jake Fournier he should have asked nicely, and if they turned it back on or insulted him he should have called the police

@Jake Fournier If you think somebody deserves to lose their life for ignoring an adult you are clinically insane and I hope to God you never have kids

@M 3 this is obviously because of the humans that migrated out of Africa and mixed with Neanderthals. Neanderthals died out because they were unfit for survival. Modern humans made them go extinct. So it is short your comment does not make any sense. One because of evolution. Two because human beings are also mammals. We all fall under that category of animals in that regard. Read a book once in awhile thanks!

Thank you for mentioning this. Like I get the fiancé he's a saint but these kids may have been saints too. It's still like what white washing the situation


I remember when this happened. Listening to that phone call when he was talking to his girlfriend, it made me so mad but it also showed his character. Who was that demon trying to fool?? I know this was very hard for his girlfriend because of who he was to her but doing the right thing is always the best decision. She dodged a bullet because she got to see what type of demonic entity she was about marry before she took the walk of shame down the isle.

@Cheetopuffed you don't have to explain anything to somebody who can't comprehend what he's reading.

@TheAmusingOddities Demon (3): a person considered extremely wicked, evil, or cruel. - Dictionary.com

@TheAmusingOddities grapes is using a figure of speech called metaphor


Is this another Karen situation oh wait it’s a man I think.


Learning the psychology of these different people and situations has become my favorite hobby because of this channel.


Imagine murdering someone and messing up your entire life instead of just dealing with loud music in a public parking lot for a few minutes.

@Love to share or just driving away. But i think he was viewing himself as being attacked by someone "lesser" not obeying his word and therefore his self awarded authority was challenged. Thugs, animals, and whatever else he called the kids. I like most those comments that say "maybe he was not a racist???"  Like really?

@Angel Dark bet that dude has felt small all his life and having a gun and being drunk made him feel much bigger

@Pickles alcohol gives us unwarranted confidence as does being armed

@Pickles alcohol gives us unwarranted confidence as does being armed

It had very little to do with music and how loud it was, imo.

It had very little to do with music and how loud it was, imo.

@Remco Braadworst they didn't find a gun.

@Remco Braadworst they didn't find a gun.

Image murdering someone who threatens to kill you and is waving a gun.  Every sane person would do the exact same thing Michael Dunn did. It's a shame he didn't get all 4 of them.

These kids were acting like thugs and went out like thugs

These kids were acting like thugs and went out like thugs

It is sometimes hard to reason when you have a gun right around.

It is sometimes hard to reason when you have a gun right around.

@YoLo Videos Me too, I don't care what people think, granted no ones every said anything to me, and I'm a 48 year old white/blonde lady in a shady part of town. I stick out like a sore thumb.

@J English I think its better NOT TO KILL AT ALL over shit that you can fix by simply walking/ driving away

@J English Imagine getting killed by some thugs because you complain about their Music- this easily could have went the other way & then EVERYONE would have had something to say negative about the kids who got approached about music then started shooting at the approachee

@Just Another Happy Humanist we still have illegal alcohol where I live (moonshine )

J English they turned it off he said....not even turned it down they turned it off

depletable it's a good thing dazzerstar isn't drinking with a gun....hating what you don't understand is a serious problem

111bep worse than that he didn't have to listen to the loud music as they turned the music down when he asked them to....smh

Just Another Happy Humanist it was not the gun but the man behind the gun!

Just Another Happy Humanist it was not the gun but the man behind the gun!

@Mr. West lndian t.v. Don't forget racist behavior based on his ignorant misdirected animosities.

@Red Milk Yup. You can tell he thinks he has it in the bag during his interrogation.

@JD Chaidez why would you imagine a pink elephant? I don't know, but you just did. Oh wait I know, because I frickin' told you to that's why.

@Kurly Kayla stuff i day dream zbout. A lot of people do.

@Kurly Kayla stuff i day dream zbout. A lot of people do.

plops993
I agree that possession of a gun emboldens these people to put themselves in confrontational situations that they would otherwise almost certainly avoid.  However, it is the same concept for the victims, they also felt emboldened by their youth and numbers to win a physical confrontation which caused them to put themselves possibly in one.  Had it been a single small black man and a much bigger stronger white guy, the black guy probably would not have turned the music back up

Both sides are using a “might makes right” justification for their actions.  Both also have the possibility of deadly force as a result, because people die from head trauma from losing a fight sometimes.  However, the gun is far more lethal, obviously

Why Would I Imagine Something That Stupid?
Why Would Anyone Suggest I Imagine That?
Imagination Should Be for Rainbows & Unicorns!!!...
Not Beavis & Butthead!!!!
Cheesecake Head!!!

You wish? Is this guy a lover of yours? Who says that about a complete stranger unless hes grabbing his ankles?

Pickles Oh, I totally agree with you about prohibition in relation to other substances, and the prison-industrial complex. And you’re right that alcohol causes more damage (emotional, physical, and psychological) than other substances. It just shouldn’t be illegal, either, because prohibition doesn’t work - with any substance. Regulated legalisation is the best course of action, the way we already do with alcohol and cigarettes. That won’t prevent people from making poor choices - but that’s something the government can’t wholly stop. Some people are always going to make bad decisions. Even if you regulate absolutely everything humans have ever produced, there’s still always going to be some moron who throws someone off a cliff, or jumps off that cliff themselves. That’s why, in conjunction with regulation, education is also important (and I don’t mean the pseudo-drugs education of the Reagan, Bush, and Clinton Eras - I mean real, scientific education that conveys, and simplifies, the findings of up-to-date neuropsychpharmacological research). People should have the right to make their own informed decisions - whether those decisions are bad or good. Society would be the better for it (especially because of the issues you raised in relation to the prison-industrial complex, but also because addiction rates and social stigma would decrease - causing more addicts to feel comfortable seeking help, and gangs would lose a major source of revenue. Another positive aspect of regulation is that health-related substance issues - including overdose - would not be as numerous, since substances would hopefully be regulated, free from dangerous admixture, and standardised, so people wouldn’t risk getting a dose stronger than what they expected. Even people who have never touched a substance in their life should be able to see that legalised regulation is the only ethical, rational, scientific, and intelligent option.

Anyway, I think we’re coming from pretty much the same viewpoint. I’m preaching to the choir, aren’t I? 😊

@Just Another Happy Humanist Oh, I totally agree with you. My statement was meant to highlight other, modern substances currently under prohibition and the subsequent profiting of cartels, millions spent to ruin the lives of and cage nonviolent offenders, and the high death rate due to lack of regulation. For some reason people are happy to peaceful drug users in jail just for possessing a substance, but nobody blinks an eye at all the crime caused by alcohol.<br>Seriously though, next time you call AT&T when your Internet goes out, there's a good chance you're talking to someone getting paid a nickel an hour in prison on the other end. (Slavery is legal in the US if you have been convicted of a crime.) Anyway, have a good one!

@Just Another Happy Humanist Oh, I totally agree with you. My statement was meant to highlight other, modern substances currently under prohibition and the subsequent profiting of cartels, millions spent to ruin the lives of and cage nonviolent offenders, and the high death rate due to lack of regulation. For some reason people are happy to peaceful drug users in jail just for possessing a substance, but nobody blinks an eye at all the crime caused by alcohol.
Seriously though, next time you call AT&T when your Internet goes out, there's a good chance you're talking to someone getting paid a nickel an hour in prison on the other end. (Slavery is legal in the US if you have been convicted of a crime.) Anyway, have a good one!

@dazzerstar 👋 Oh indeed it Fricken does & nor can I stand that rancid noise pollution 👍👍👍☕

@Pula Paw i surrender, you are right, maybe beat them good would be acceptable instead of killing them

@MONEY/SUCCESS 10Million Yes. And let them handle the situation considering it's their property. Literally any option is better than fucking killing someone.

J English that a dumb reson to kill someone, you might be one of those people that think the guy that came back to work and kill his coworkers bc they fired him and treated him bad was a just reason for him to kill them. You mist think that it was just for Watts to kill his whole family bc he find another chick and his wife and kids was in the find instead of getting a divorcee.  Sometime you should just walk away why kill someone bc you mad when you can just walk away and go someone else, all the cases i names the evil killers can not control his feeling and just leave and  that why no one  have to die.

@Kurly Kayla Contacting the Gas station owner???? Thats gonna do nothing

@Kurly Kayla Contacting the Gas station owner???? Thats gonna do nothing

I feel like he really believed in his privllage. I think he thought they would be believe him cause he's white, He's older, etc.

@dazzerstar I feel you, but you need to truly get a grip and don't take shit like that so seriously.

awesomeguynamedjon And so you think alcohol, instead of guns, should be illegal? I’m afraid the evidence shows the latter, my friend. The problem is the guns, not the alcohol.

@Pickles Alcohol should not be illegal. They tried that in the 20's, and all it did was make the crime, murder, organised crime and addiction rates skyrocket, in addition to an increase in other health problems caused by black market alcohol mixed with poisonous additives. As a matter of fact, prohibition essentially created American gang culture.

Prohibition doesn't work.

And anyway, most people who drink are able to do so without killing or hurting anyone.

My guess is his actions had nothing. to do with the music

My guess is his actions had nothing. to do with the music

@Two0Nina I'm not sure, I was just commenting that alcohol precedes acts of violence, including domestic violence as well as shootings. On one hand it wouldn't surprise me, but on the other it seems as though this guy has never dealt with the wrong end of the law before, as he really thought he was going to "talk his way out of it" and go home. In order to be arrested for domestic violence you have to have charges brought against you -- with a temper like that combined with his victim complex I'd be terrified of him if I were the fiancee.

@Pickles Meanwhile, i cant buy my glorious pot, love and peace weed from a normal store, instead i have to go to places where the son cry and the mother dont see, places like fucking hell, or wait the rare good will of a friend. Fuck!

It's obvious alcohol had a critical role in this, along with countless drunk driving and domestic violence incidents. I wonder when they will finally make such an evil substance illegal.

White male rage, white male rage, white male rage. Joker.

White male rage, white male rage, white male rage. Joker.

Exactly!!! Just like that it's over. Your whole life will be spent in jail and there is a young man with no criminal record or violent history is dead. Not sure if he care about the latter but it is still horrible. Somebody's child and sibling and friend. Everything he was going to do in life will never happen. Heartbreaking. I hope everyone takes a lesson from this. Don't let your ego and/or anger get the best of you and on the other hand you never know who you're running your mouth at or what type of hype they are on.

@Kurly Kayla Yup. Pathetic that he thinks people can't see that.

@Kurly Kayla Yup. Pathetic that he thinks people can't see that.

cant imagine that cause im usually blasting the music

cant imagine that cause im usually blasting the music

At the very most, you can contact the gas station owners or file a complaint about disturbing the peace. But anyone with critical thinking skills can determine this guy’s gripe with these kids was not just about the music.


Crazy how this guy made it to his age without having an incident like this


This is facinating, like watching a train wreck in slow motion.  The cops are highly skilled.  He is guilty of murder, and he is helping the cops convict him.  To protect his rights, he should never have spoken with the cops at all.  He is saying all the wrong things.  I can see why defense lawyers always advise clients to not talk to the police without counsel present, regardless of guilt or innocence.  STFU until your lawyer arrives.

EDIT: One thing I really like is the cops are doing their job.  They see the black teenagers are the victims, and are charging this man with murder.  All police need to do their job in a professional and unbiased manner.

@bébé phoque They existed, that was reason enough for Michael Dunn to enact pest control.

This is honestly the truth. Good on them for putting him away not this. It's inexcusable. They hadn't done anything to warrant any use of a firearm, taser, blade, or any other device used for self defense. They were only verbal and he attacked them with a (very pretty might I add) firearm. Something like that doesn't belong in the hands of someone like that.


45 minutes in... and I have still NOT heard him say anything about him feeling badly for shooting children, injuring them physically and mentally And killing a kid.

@McSnezzly no, it's all about that you CAN no retreat🤷♂ no question on selfdefense.

@Silvano stand your ground laws state that you have to retreat unless you can’t. You can’t chase after the person or shoot them anywhere that isn’t in the front of the body bc otherwise you’re trying to kill them, not protect yourself

@Silvano I dont think the Stand your ground law applies when you are shooting at a car that is driving away lmao

Stand your ground law had to be applied, coulour jury or judge?

He sure is sad that he... has a puppy though? Very odd. Literally the only emotion he displays, other than some anger in that phone call about being a "victim", is crying because he's thinking about a dog. He killed a 17 year old kid!

And he'd "do it again"! He was more concerned about keeping the police up, or missing his favourite TV show or whatever "5 other things" than taking a life.

What a nutter.


I honestly believe the fiancé won in the end, she got away from an abusive insensitive murder. She saved herself by telling the truth.

There are no winners in this. Even for the murderer, there is a senario where nothing like this happens, lets say if he didn't own a gun.

@Suzanne Nixon I get what you mean but I’m still sticking to what I agree with

@starving But listen to the prison call, with all the "Yes, I know" and avoidance answers instead of being frank and telling him he's not a victim. He's in prison and can't get to her but she still is afraid of angering him. That doesn't happen overnight. It's a conditioned response.

@whoop S H doesn’t mean they were abusive it’s just pure fear you watch someone murder a group of people and wonder what might happen to you if you try and get involved or something along those lines

@Shaneia Pearson when she said she was too afraid to say anything to him after the shooting so she wouldn’t make him more angry <br>Yeahhhh that tells me he was abusive

@Shaneia Pearson when she said she was too afraid to say anything to him after the shooting so she wouldn’t make him more angry
Yeahhhh that tells me he was abusive


Would never have happened if he didn't have a gun in his car!


Anyone else notice how the fiancee doesn't seem to believe him? Even over the phone, she certainly doesn't sound too convinced.

@Anthony okay expert what is every one missing?

As soon as she said he started by saying he hates thug music and her reply was "yes I know", it seemed like she listened to him rant about his pet peeve on more than a few occasions. He was obviously  the music police and wasn't going to let another offender go with just a warning.

seven rue sad thing is he was already convinced

Frank Leclair    her life was destroyed with this....I really feels sorry for her

Definitely she’s obviously a lovely human being in terrible situation my heart goes out to her those poor kids should not have had to deal with this asshole

she sounded horrified and relieved at the same time, now that hes out of her life now.

I wouldn’t believe a person that’s literally trying to convince themselves that they’re the victim either

The fiance..was asked "did he ever mention they had a gun"..and she awnsered.."nope".😂🤣😂

Even in the one on one interview with the detective, she was more confident giving her side of the story than what she thinks Michael would want to hear in the court room.

Shes scared of him, even before he shot someone dead. The guy is an evil narcissist who tries to control everybody and every thing.


"I'm the victim here. I'm the fucking victim here!" alright calm down Gabbie Hanna

Lol. Pretty sure the guy who was murdered is the victim.

wrong... there was no pointless singing mid conversation

The kids in the truck were “boolies... high school. Föking. bOoLiEs”

You done and made me choke on a chocolate chip cookie 🍪😂😂

That line gave me some slight PTSD, because it's the same kind of gaslighting my abuser used to do.... It's made me extremely skeptical when people are too eager to blame someone. Probably trying to make them a scapegoat for their own ass.

@Luciano Victor she just always makes herself the victim in any situation. People don’t like her work? They’re bullies. She gets called out for bad behavior? They’re bullies. She’s the victor and the victim.

whats the tea about gabbie?did she do something again?


How could someone, who shot 8x at unarmed kids.. killed one kid in the process.. still claim he is the victim..

@Striker Alpha One he technically might be early Gen X

Because boomer old. Boomer hated loud music. Boomer went and done bang bang on "thugs" because "lOuD tHuG mUsIc BAAAAAD".

It's entitlement, racism, indoctrinated fear, and gun-related power fantasy---with a few drinks thrown in.

If I may be partisan,  from the moment Stand Your Ground Laws (as well as Castle Doctrine to a lesser extent) were passed,  the political opponents have been framing it as "License to murder" and painting it like that silly hunting scene in the first season of South Park, where all you need to say was "I was in fear for my life!'  or "I THOUGHT they had a gun"  and like Magic you go free.      I believe they make such outlandish claims to scare people into being against which is actually quite a reasonable law,  but you can only tell such lies for so long before a loser like Dunn actually believes them and shoots a young man because he got mad.

This makes me sick also...he knows exactly what he did and is trying to get a lighter sentence or acquittal for self-defense.


Another guy with a hero complex, goes and buys a gun and imagines scenarios in his head and just can't wait to use it

Another guy with a hero complex, goes and buys a gun and imagines scenarios in his head and just can't wait to use it

I'm as pro-gun as they come, and have some reasonable basis to arm myself in the name of self-defense as I live and drive around some bad neighborhoods from time to time, but I've found that my everyday circles of life don't warrant me owning a firearm so I've made the conscious decision to take the risk of not being able to shoot back...maybe it's stupid, but I'm not one to escalate the situation, I'll try to be chill and listen and find some common ground.  If somebody kills me in cold blood, the Gods will welcome me just the same, and the killer will be facing hell.  Fair trade.  Also, have some awareness, when I was 17 I was blasting music and thinking I was invincible, while music that isn't necessarily from your generation being blasted is annoying, have a little empathy, you know, kids want to turn it up, if they cross paths with you, you can ask them nicely to turn it down (if they're being disrespectful it should be pretty obvious), or just relocate to another area.  Acting all superior and confrontational is a recipe for disaster.

That's the most dangerous type of gun owner. One who thinks he's deputized because he has one.

That's the most dangerous type of gun owner. One who thinks he's deputized because he has one.

@Robert HouseEven if ur claim was accurate, & it's not, correlation does not equal causation. In reality, generally, stricter gun laws do lead to fewer gun deaths...by causation.

@Robert HouseEven if ur claim was accurate, & it's not, correlation does not equal causation. In reality, generally, stricter gun laws do lead to fewer gun deaths...by causation.

* * loud music plays * *

Him: THIS IS IT

* * loud music plays * *

Him: *_THIS IS IT_*

Disgusting men. Weapon possession should be illegal

Disgusting men. Weapon possession should be illegal

@Laurel Street that sounds sensible.  If someone is trying to get into your house that's a self defense issue without question.  The problem seems to be the armed wannabes . As an outsider it appears to me your cops are plain terrified which makes them a danger.

@jen jen. rutherford Last time somebody said that, they started an armed resistance against the Nazis....

@jen jen. rutherford Last time somebody said that, they started an armed resistance against the Nazis....

500,000-3,000,000 self defense uses of a firearm every year in the United States according to the CDC. (Study ordered/authorized by the Obama administration)

500,000-3,000,000 self defense uses of a firearm every year in the United States according to the CDC. (Study ordered/authorized by the Obama administration)

This guy didn’t have a hero complex he obviously has some sort of psychological imbalance that results in anger. Psychopathic maybe

This guy didn’t have a hero complex he obviously has some sort of psychological imbalance that results in anger. Psychopathic maybe

@tjfSIM As a petite American woman who works at night in high crime areas I'm happy I can buy and carry a gun

@tjfSIM As a petite American woman who works at night in high crime areas I'm happy I can buy and carry a gun

@Randy Weaver this will make a hilarious copypasta

@Randy Weaver this will make a hilarious copypasta

@Juan Blondo It's mostly gang violence isn't it?

@Juan Blondo It's mostly gang violence isn't it?

Idk if shooting at a car park next to you and then as it’s driving AWAY from continue shoot constitutes as a guy with a hero complex. Sounds to me like the guy just snapped

Idk if shooting at a car park next to you and then as it’s driving AWAY from continue shoot constitutes as a guy with a hero complex. Sounds to me like the guy just snapped

@Kat Howard ofc its the racists again.. why does everything always have to revolve around race?

You think he wouldn’t have shot if four skinheads were blasting Oi and giving him an attitude?

@steve822009 probably British, they want to ban forks and spoons soon.

@steve822009 probably British, they want to ban forks and spoons soon.

It keeps happening here and its almost always racists against Black people and their supporters.

It keeps happening here and its almost always racists against Black people and their supporters.

Stop letting people buy guns = less gun crimes! Just an idea!!!

Stop letting people buy guns = less gun crimes! Just an idea!!!

That’s literally all this situation was. He was just trigger itching. He’s been waiting for any situation to pop off so he can shoot.

That’s literally all this situation was. He was just trigger itching. He’s been waiting for any situation to pop off so he can shoot.

@Subversive Control It's the 10 bullets fired that made it seem unlikely that he wasn't out for blood that night - for me anyway

@Subversive Control It's the 10 bullets fired that made it seem unlikely that he wasn't out for blood that night - for me anyway

@ItsVizor what about the people with illegal guns? How are you supposed to fight back against them.... With a kitchen knife LMFAO 😂. I hope you never get in a bad situation, because you aren't going to make it. This guy is the reason the firearm was used. You can throw that gun on the ground and it will never do anything but rot into the earth, he just purchased it legally.

wivuyao You dont have a kitchen knife? A baton? Hiding spots at your home? The guns that you laude so much can be replaced with non lethal stun guns, or are you insecure of your aim?

Marky Mangle Literally any other country in the world, check their gun violence rates.

Marky Mangle Literally any other country in the world, check their gun violence rates.

Subversive Control And you think scaring the living shit out of him is a fair excuse for emptying 10 bullets in the CABIN of the car? If he was scared, he could’ve scared them away by shooting their tires or shooting on the ground if he really wanted to shoot. This man fully knew what he was doing and his intent is clear.

Randy Weaver Human can easily practice rights without a lethal weapon on their hands. Even tasers and stun guns require proper license where I live. I practice my rights, and I live with liberty. I feel safe. I don’t need to have a gun in my hand to do so. I can stuff a rock or a perfume bottle in my pocket when I go out alone in the dark to shoot photos. That makes me feel safe. Non lethal weapons are no problem, but this righteous behaviour that Americans exhibit that there is nothing wrong with their system is laughable. That is the reason you can’t bring your country back up from its state. You never acknowledge your mistakes, and with a president like that, I doubt there’s going to be any good news for you for a while.

That’s exactly what happened. Nobody buys a gun and doesn’t look for any excuse not to use it. They want to use it. And now.

That’s exactly what happened. Nobody buys a gun and doesn’t look for any excuse not to use it. They want to use it. And now.

@steve822009 find me numbers. You can't say things like that without backing it up. Facts not feelings.

@steve822009 find me numbers. You can't say things like that without backing it up. Facts not feelings.

I grew up with guns, I used them as a kid. To me they’re just a tool. A dangerous one to be respected and kept away from people who don’t use them properly. My cousin told me his wife’s sister is married to a guy who obsesses about how much he needs a gun to keep the family safe. My cousin one said to him he lives in a town of about 1800 in Iowa where they had one murder over half a century ago and besides kids trying to get beer and people going ten over the speed limit, there is no crime in that town. The guy keeps saying it’s a dangerous world and it could happen there.

@O K England has very strict gun control and has almost no gun violence

@O K England has very strict gun control and has almost no gun violence

@SHONUFF Jeez.  One extreme to another.  I agree that guns shouldn't be entirely outlawed but the idea that EVERYONE should own a gun is absurd.  Should we really be giving guns to people with paranoid schizophrenia or people with a history of violent crime?

@Randy Weaver I see where you're coming from and I kind of agree, kind of disagree.  I do believe in the 2nd amendment and that most people should have the right to own firearms, not only for protection but for recreation as well as long as you're able to be responsible.  Michael Dunn clearly isn't responsible and should not have owned a gun at all.  I think there should be some kind of test and/or mandatory safety instruction before you're able to obtain a license for a firearm.

@Subversive Control live somewhere where you're not constantly scared of "tweakers" breaking into your home? or in a country where theres an abundance of unsupported drug addicts because your govenment runs a war on drugs backed by racism and capitalism. the same people that control your guns lol

@SHONUFF only? only 30,000? are you seriously saying only here? if anyone that you knew was a park of that 30,000 it would be a different story

@SHONUFF only? only 30,000? are you seriously saying only here? if anyone that you knew was a park of that 30,000 it would be a different story

Facts. 💯 This guy dreamed of unloading on someone many times before it happened. Bonus for him was that it was some black guys (or Thugs as he calls them).

Facts. 💯 This guy dreamed of unloading on someone many times before it happened. Bonus for him was that it was some black guys (or Thugs as he calls them).

I dunno about all that and the hero complex, kinda projecting tbh, more than likely was just pissed off

I dunno about all that and the hero complex, kinda projecting tbh, more than likely was just pissed off

@Art Vandelay For sure. That doesn't make a moral or logical argument for it though. Guns are engrained in American culture. Why not just admit the obvious that they cause way more harm than they do good and  that you don't give a fuck because you think guns are cool as they make you feel powerful?

it's our constitutional right to bear arms for protection

it's our constitutional right to bear arms for protection

@SHONUFF "There are over 500,000 to 3 million lives saved by defensive use of a firearm in the USA a year. " Not sure how all these other countries cope without all the life saving fire arms they must have 10x the number of deaths of USA.

Steamy Senpai Gun owners are not bad people for owning guns. Myself, my family, my friends are all responsible keepers of firearms. Unfortunately the bad apples in every batch get the most attention .

Sometimes it seems that people who have liberal beliefs think people like me, who are very conservative, hard working members of society and the NRA, support these types of people. WE DONT.  As a matter of fact, we wouldn't be in the situation he was in EVER because we wouldn't allow our significant others to go into a convenient store in a foreign area. (Foreign meaning an area not known to him)

jen jen. rutherford This is months old and you come back lol, don’t you have anything better to do with your life?  And on the contrary my family is quite content with the fact that I am well on my way to obtaining my Mechanical Engineering degree

@SHONUFF
Because other civilised countries don't have such a problem with guns and violence.

Part of the problem of course is not the guns, specifically. However, knives have more additional uses than just destroying or killing what you point them at. Guns are way easier to kill with than knives.

If you have a look at the 'correct' stats, compared with the vast majority of other countries, it seems clear removing guns would improve safety, not the reverse.

As far as an armed population rising up against a tyrannical government goes, that's not very practical at all, and hasn't been for a long time. Some might argue you even have the kind of government that should be overthrown right now, lead by an utterly corrupt, incompetent despot.

@SHONUFF
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're quoting a lot of statistics with no sources.

I've heard politicians before claiming unemployment has gone down, and they had the numbers to prove it. When I actually investigated it, the numbers went down because they changed the way they defined 'unemployed'.

It seems like the general rule should be: more guns available, more gun deaths occur. That is the general trend in the rest of the world, and makes logical sense. When you find stats that appear to contradict logic and the overall picture, I think you should be asking yourself where those numbers came from, and how the analyses were produced. If you know what you're doing, you can use the same data set to (apparently) support very different ideas.

@SHONUFF
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're quoting a lot of statistics with no sources.

I've heard politicians before claiming unemployment has gone down, and they had the numbers to prove it. When I actually investigated it, the numbers went down because they changed the way they defined 'unemployed'.

It seems like the general rule should be: more guns available, more gun deaths occur. That is the _general_ trend in the rest of the world, and makes logical sense. When you find stats that appear to contradict logic and the overall picture, I think you should be asking yourself where those numbers came from, and how the analyses were produced. If you know what you're doing, you can use the same data set to (apparently) support very different ideas.

Hear! Hear!

Some people are not cut out to own a weapon, especially those who regularly consume above average amounts of alcohol, which impairs judgement as well as any drug out there....

Plot twist.Shes now married to a BLACK man.😆Im DUNN!!
Sad story.😭..😀 LAUGHTER eases pain.Have a FREE LAUGH on me.Watch my 2nd OPEN MIC.

Plot twist.Shes now married to a BLACK man.😆Im DUNN!!
Sad story.😭..😀 LAUGHTER eases pain.Have a FREE LAUGH on me.Watch my 2nd OPEN MIC.

@Worse Than Joe Rogan I know I'm not, but it's still scary to know there are people out there who are, ya know?

@Worse Than Joe Rogan I know I'm not, but it's still scary to know there are people out there who are, ya know?

Most people who carry are not like this guy though.

Most people who carry are not like this guy though.

You get the Gold medal My friend.<br>🏅🏅🏅🏅

@wivuyao and the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons ban was laughably weak and poorly planned. It only banned the possession of the targeted weapons that were received after the date of the enactment. It had no buy back plan implemented, so people wanting to get rid of their now-illegal weapons sold them to whoever would buy. It also exempted hundred of kinds of automatic and semi-automatic weapons, like the AR15. It's no surprise that an act so small and only lasting for 10 years made such little impact on gun violence.

@wivuyao You are correct that guns were taken away from Jews. Regulations were actually loosened for whoever Nazi Germany deemed "ordinary". And It's silly to think that if they had had their weapons they could have taken down a fascist police state that most of the population of Germany supported or tolerated.
And I actually do want people to have the opportunity to defend themselves with a firearm. Background checks are essential as a matter of public safety, not as some kind of conspiracy to quash rights.
And you do realize that an "illegal gun" usually means a gun that was purchased legally in a state with lax laws and brought into one with stricter laws, right? They're not coming from secret weapons factories lol. A convicted felon can visit any state with lax laws, purchase a firearm from a private seller, and own it that day.

@CathartesAura USSR and Nazi Germany's tyrannies happened after governments took away their people's guns

@CathartesAura USSR and Nazi Germany's tyrannies happened after governments took away their people's guns

@Howard Gibson yeah and how will you defend yourself without a gun? Do you know that people who want to commit murders would get illegal guns anyway? Why most murders happen in gun-free zones and places with strict gun rules?

@Grog SmashRock yeah and why most gun violence happens in gun-free zones?

@Grog SmashRock yeah and why most gun violence happens in gun-free zones?

@jen jen. rutherford yeah it's better to not be able to defend yourself in case you are really threatened?

@jen jen. rutherford yeah it's better to not be able to defend yourself in case you are really threatened?

@KurtyB guns make suicide more likely to succeed

@KurtyB guns make suicide more likely to succeed

@CathartesAura unless you are a young black man it seems.

@CathartesAura unless you are a young black man it seems.

@Randy Weaver if you find yourself wearing camo gear to bed please get help

@Randy Weaver if you find yourself wearing camo gear to bed please get help

@SlavSupremehow do you manage to access the internet when you live under a rock ? Do you go to Starbucks a lot ? 😁

@SlavSupremehow do you manage to access the internet when you live under a rock ? Do you go to Starbucks a lot ? 😁

What I am genuinely confused by is : the USA has su h a high murder rate compared to the uk Australia NZ and canada. Yet these countries have very strict  gun control and hand guns are extremely  difficult to obtain  . So how are your very open gun laws working to keep you safe?

@Howard Gibson from the ghosts in these mindless dangerous peoples heads

@Howard Gibson from the ghosts in these mindless dangerous peoples heads

@yo did i just shit myself? you and I watched totally different docs 🧖♀

@yo did i just shit myself? you and I watched totally different docs 🧖♀

jen jen. rutherford Scary that your type are the people dictating our laws, economy, and culture when you don’t even recognize the term “baby boomer”

jen jen. rutherford Scary that your type are the people dictating our laws, economy, and culture when you don’t even recognize the term “baby boomer”

@Randy Weaver of course those "rights " were never meant to be exercised by slaves

@Randy Weaver of course those "rights " were never meant to be exercised by slaves

@SlavSupreme what's a boomer<br> Is this some kind of trump thing ?

@SlavSupreme what's a boomer
 Is this some kind of trump thing ?

Don't take your guns to town Son, Leave your guns at home Bill.

Don't take your guns to town Son, Leave your guns at home Bill.

@tortoise he did plenty of things 'wrong' to put himself in a situation he didn't need to be in.  Don't confuse 'legally justified' with intelligent conduct.  The action he took after getting his head smashed against concrete passed legal muster for self defense, that's it.

LaughingDove I also encourage you to research the Hollywood Bank Robberies if you truly believe in taking away “assault weapons” (what a ridiculous fucking term) from law enforcement

LaughingDove Gun Death statistics include suicide, which unfairly skews the data and makes your argument hold SIGNIFICANTLY less weight.

LaughingDove Gun Death statistics include suicide, which unfairly skews the data and makes your argument hold SIGNIFICANTLY less weight.

@SHONUFF you're trying to tell me? Um, you might want to look a little closer to who you're talking to buddy.

@SHONUFF you're trying to tell me? Um, you might want to look a little closer to who you're talking to buddy.

Holy shit how did I get so many likes? I don't even know what I'm talking about xD my comment isn't even original I just commented the same as someone below me LOL

Holy shit how did I get so many likes? I don't even know what I'm talking about xD my comment isn't even original I just commented the same as someone below me LOL

@Subversive Control Wow, what a convincing and rational argument. You got me, dude. Liberals destroyed.
I've said my piece on the issues. Maybe when you're ready to grow up, you'll feel the same way.

Now go ahead and vomit out another pithy remark. I know you won't be able to resist getting the last word.

@Subversive Control You're just like Dunn. Whipping out your weapon when you get your fee-fees hurt. You make the rest of us gun owners look bad.

@Subversive Control You're just like Dunn. Whipping out your weapon when you get your fee-fees hurt. You make the rest of us gun owners look bad.

@Subversive Control the penalty of being a snarky teen is not death.

@Subversive Control the penalty of being a snarky teen is not death.

@Robert House Ok, I looked it up. Here are my findings:
The american average for every 100,000 people is 11.9.

Illinois: 1490 gun deaths,11.7 out of every 100,000 people. No firearm registration, bulk firearm purchase restrictions, or local government authority on firearms. Does have background checks, waiting periods, handgun design saftey standards, and extreme risk prevention laws.

Missouri:1144 gun deaths, 19 out of every 100,000 people. No universal background checks, waiting period, firearm registration, gun dealer liscensing, ammunition sale regulation, local government authority of firearms and ammunition.

New York: 900 gun deaths, 4.4 out of every 100,000 people. No waiting period. Does have background checks, gun dealer liscensing, assault weapon ban, handgun liscensing, handgun saftey standards, ammunition sale regulation.

Canada has a rate of 2 per 100,000.
The European Union has a rate of 1.34 per 100,000.
Australia has a rate of .9 per 100,000.

I'll take some disgruntled gun owners over thousands of dead people any day, thanks.

109367 conservative victim-playing as if the system and society is out to get them all the time

109367 conservative victim-playing as if the system and society is out to get them all the time

When you buy a hammer every problem looks like a nail.

When you buy a hammer every problem looks like a nail.

Probably thinks he looked like Liam Neeson in his fantasies.   Although I think Randy Quaid would be a better fit.

Probably thinks he looked like Liam Neeson in his fantasies.   Although I think Randy Quaid would be a better fit.

you don't know that, it's immoral to attribute malice to people with certainty when you aren't in reality certain

you don't know that, it's immoral to attribute malice to people with certainty when you aren't in reality certain

@SHONUFF oh my.   You should come down to your local FBI and get a little more info.

@SHONUFF oh my.   You should come down to your local FBI and get a little more info.

@Randy Weaver sorry, but I find your argument is invalid. Keeping fire extinguisher(s) in a home would not make one a "fire nut" because: 1) people don't carry a concealed-carry extinguisher around with them at all times, and 2) people don't spray people with the extinguisher because they "feared they would spontaneously combust."

And, I say this as an American who owns guns.

@CathartesAura Chicago, St Louis, and New York. Strict gun laws. Check their murder rates.

@CathartesAura Chicago, St Louis, and New York. Strict gun laws. Check their murder rates.

It's not 30,000, it's 40,000 gun deaths in america each year, and climbing. (2017=39,773 deaths). America has more lax firearm laws than any other developed country, and it shows. Stricter gun laws actually DO lead to less gun violence; not only in other countries but also in the states. If there's less guns, there's less shootings. It's simple math.

Assault weapons don't belong in law enforcement or in the hands of the average joe. They are designed specifically to shoot lots of people. You can't hunt with it or defend yourself with it. They're toys of war. They don't belong in the public.

If you're the kind of person who believes your gun would be taken away if background checks become stricter, you shouldn't have one.

Just like Travis bickle. Are you talking to me?

Just like Travis bickle. Are you talking to me?

@SHONUFF Three million lives saved by guns every year?  From what?  It would be from guns would it?  The Kleck Gertz study that provides the number 2.5 million, is complete nonsense.  About 20% of their respondents estimated that they would have been  killed had they not defended themselves.  That works out to 500,000.  In 1994, the year of the study, there were 18,000 homicides.  We do not know how many orders of magnitude Kleck and Gertz are out by.

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer goes to buy a gun and the clerks says, "There's a 2-day waiting period."  Homer says:  "Awww, but I mad NOW....!!!"

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer goes to buy a gun and the clerks says, "There's a 2-day waiting period."  Homer says:  "Awww, but I mad NOW....!!!"

Steamy Senpai Everyone should have unfettered access to all weapons, as the constitution intended lol

Steamy Senpai Everyone should have unfettered access to all weapons, as the constitution intended lol

Steamy Senpai Places with stricter gun laws have higher rates of gun violence.

Steamy Senpai Places with stricter gun laws have higher rates of gun violence.

@Gypsum Fantastic b-biggity-but i be a white man..  I just know right from wrong.

@Gypsum Fantastic b-biggity-but i be a white man..  I just know right from wrong.

@Comrade Hartliss ayyyy breadtuber fan ✊

@Comrade Hartliss ayyyy breadtuber fan ✊

That’s why mine stays in my bedside nightstand. Only used if someone breaks in. I NEVER take it with me anywhere. Even though it’s legal by certification, i just don’t see a need.

That’s why mine stays in my bedside nightstand. Only used if someone breaks in. I NEVER take it with me anywhere. Even though it’s legal by certification, i just don’t see a need.

@SHONUFF That and most murders with guns are illegal guns.

@SHONUFF That and most murders with guns are illegal guns.

Cases like this?? 1 case of sum crazy dude with a gun and MOST people shouldnt have one? You do know citizens with guns save more lives a year than are taken by nut cases with guns... doesn’t matter any way because OUR RIGHT to bear arms shall not EVER be infringed..

Learning Makes Me Happy you know Shaun is a left leaning political<br>Channel and obviously had a bit of a slant. Zimmerman was legally in the right, regardless of whether or not you think it’s racism that caused him to follow Trayvon in the first place.

Learning Makes Me Happy you know Shaun is a left leaning political
Channel and obviously had a bit of a slant. Zimmerman was legally in the right, regardless of whether or not you think it’s racism that caused him to follow Trayvon in the first place.

@Gypsum Fantastic Look up Shaun's video on the Zimmerman case.

You'll absolutely change your mind.

@Gypsum Fantastic Look up Shaun's video on the Zimmerman case.

You'll absolutely change your mind.

Gypsum Fantastic Zimmerman followed him... wtf ... did you even do any research on the case or ?

Gypsum Fantastic Zimmerman followed him... wtf ... did you even do any research on the case or ?

So glad I live somewhere guns are not prolific

So glad I live somewhere guns are not prolific


the thumbnail looks like Christopher Hitchens lol


That poor poor woman is racked with guilt. An innocent decision turned disastrous because of an asshole with a gun. Rip my little dude x


The way he said "You were not there" chilled me to the core. He showed his true self in that moment. The self that the kid saw right before he died. Absolutely evil.


I would love to see an analysis of someone who actually defended themselves when their life was threatened. How different the responses would be. We only ever see guilty people, it would be great to see the interrogation of an innocent person

The innocent ones are usually not involved but end up convicted because they're forced to confess. I know I'm digressing but those are the shows we get to see from innocent ppl

I think in legitimate lethal force self defense cases, the self-defender is often seriously fucked up about it, crying or incoherent. They feel guilty even though they shouldn't, and are often left with PTSD and/or lifelong nightmares.

On one of his Patreon videos there’s a woman being questioned after her boyfriends Suicide, and she was completely innocent, but the interrogator was dead set on getting her to admit she murdered him. It was kinda sad


This guy is oozing with entitlement.  Even his voice sounds entitled.

A lot of people in America who carry guns have a "I wish someone would" mentality. To them, the idea of needing to use their firearm for self defense is an actively enticing prospect. When that kind of person is significantly lacking morals in other areas and you catch them in a bad moment or on a bad day, they find a reason to use their firearm and take away life.

Beyond mass shootings, I view this as the second biggest problem with gun-ownership. Feeling a desire to defend yourself too often manifests in offensive use of a firearm, and actively poisons the culture of gun ownership.

Let the white racism out guys. Add something about white privilege, remind everyone of slavery, sprinkle some more buzzwords on top. Then the upper middle class white kids can relieve themselves of guilt from something they had nothing to do with. And minorities with a victim mentality can have an excuse to be hateful.

Or when he was being interrogated and he tells the cops “well that’s fine and dandy” as if they work for him and they need to rethink what he’s said.

jinx86 looking like her great grandfather

What white people don’t understand. Feeling entitled is a behavior and is easily seen (and heard)

You can see it in his eyes in court,that's what struck me.. don't fuck with me. Maintaining a kind of victim facade during interrogation that fell away sharply in court.


Mre upset over dog than person he killed


the way it's put in the documentary, it truly seems like the guy was looking for a confrontation from the start, then lost his temper with these kids and started shooting to teach them a lesson ("you're not gonna talk to me like that") ; certainly his actions don't match what he says when interviewed by the police. BUT I think the scariest part is how later on at the court his version of the story changes and suddenly sounds much more reasonable meaning had he gotten a lawyer straight from the start, he possibly could've walked "free".

Plot twist.Shes now married to a BLACK man.😆Im DUNN!!
Sad story.😭..😀 LAUGHTER eases pain.Have a FREE LAUGH on me.Watch my 2nd OPEN MIC.

Luc - I’m talking about this case specifically.

@Somni 224 and i am saying it is not the mafia but powerful elite.
which is i guess the point on which we disagree. i will not pretend to know enough about the US legal system to point out the exact flaws. i am not even talking about the US in general. But rather see that as a global issue.
There are people above the law, that was my point.

@Sam-pson Smith fair enough. I would say, however, that the cases where people have been silenced/barred from taking legal action through violence is more tied with criminal activity, such as instances with involving the mafia, than due to some flaw in the US legal system that makes such behavior a viable option; which was the point of my initial response to you.

@Somni 224 you are right, everything you said are real things, and real problems.
but so is everything i said. People are being threatened and sometimes even killed to protect certain people in power.
(The cosby case was just an example i don't know enough about it to argue on that.)

@Sam-pson Smith reaching an out-of-court settlement or a party taking money in exchange for their refraining from engaging in legal action, is not the same as "being silenced", the latter which implies a threat of violence or coercion. I mean, do people not remember the Gennifer Flowers scandal which involved a woman making public allegations of sexual misconduct against the President of United States? Many of the actresses who accused Harvey Weinstein of sexual assault initially stayed silent in exchange for a large sum of cash or due to concerns about their career (albeit the latter is still a huge problem and could be considered coercion) but there was no physical barrier to them filing a suit against him.

μ Ted and the phrase talk shit, get hit has nothing to do with what happened here.

@Dante Good which is why America has an openly  racist president.

@German Bro well if we talk about people who have a lot of money. you are right, it is the lawyer which keeps them out of prison.
But some people have real power and the case would never go to court nor be on the news nor would you ever hear about it.
they silence thousands of victims every year. especially women which have been abused by powerful politicians or famous people.
Bill cosbys victims have been silenced for years, until no one cared about him enough any more to protect him.

@Mc_ Zittrer thank you for this comment. You have a mountain of ballistic/physical and circumstantial evidence, eye witness and independent eye witness testimony and the initial police interviews up against basically just the perp's version of events; the latter's testimony alone is just not enough to create reasonable doubt. I'm a chemist who works in forensics, and while the US legal system does have major flaws, I still believe it is one of the best legal systems in the world.

Jiří of course that’s why (even tho I’m glad he didn’t) you should ALWAYS ask for a lawyer. Whether you’re innocent or guilty, they will fuck you over.

μ Ted The pro-Dunn responses on the board put into sobering focus why anti-black racism has been so durable and intense in America. This case is settled: Rock solid forensic evidence, multiple eye witness (including the fiancée), and basic physics and logic all tell us what happened beyond all doubt, and yet countless people will still paint the black murdered victim as the aggressor and his white murderer as the innocent party who killed him valiantly and legally.

The victims were good kids who did no wrong, but the depths of anti black racism knows no bottom, and has been nurtured thru centuries of dehumanizing black humans.

@Brandon Miller "wearing hoodie get death sentence" - not in fact a caveman, but Brandon Miller himself

Well, I like to think the forensic evidence and third party testimonies would be pretty damning. Sit back and think like a lawyer - how do you make him seem like the innocent one, in this particular situation? If his testimony contradicts the testimony of spectators in any way, shape or form, he's not going to be given the benefit of the doubt. What's more, the forensic evidence concluded that A) the SUV didn't have a single weapon, or objects that resembled weapons, anywhere. It could be argued that the party in the SUV would have WANTED to dispose of such evidence, but how are they going to when there were so many witnesses? The police probably showed up minutes later, so there was no way for them to just make the gun vanish. Moreover, they themselves never even LEFT the parking lot! If a bunch of punks had anything to hide, I doubt they would have hung back at the scene and waited to  give their statements to the police, they'd either run to the hospital or hide out at a friend's place to lay low. And B) the victim never left the car. Ballistics don't lie, the victim was obviously in much more danger than Dunn ever was. And let's not forget how many rounds he peppered that SUV with - ten rounds is probably the entire clip. A simple warning shot or two would have drove the point right home. There just wouldn't be any way for a lawyer to use the cold hard facts of the case to somehow NOT make Dunn look like the aggressor. All he had to do was ignore some punk kids and their thumping bass while his biddy went and got some Merlot. The camera even showed her talking to the cashier when this all went down, so she would have been back out in under five minutes.

Hell, just look at the way he was testifying, even with his council's 'expert' advice. 'Yer not gunna kill ME, you SONOVABITCH!' What, does he think he's some grizzled detective in some early 80s pulp movie or Sin City or something? I would have actually had to stop myself from snickering if I was on jury duty that day. If I was in the situation he was in, my exclamations would probably be somewhere along the lines of 'OH SHIT', 'FUCK YOU', or just 'STOP' before opening fire.

Well, I like to think the forensic evidence and third party testimonies would be pretty damning. Sit back and think like a lawyer - how do you make him seem like the innocent one, in this particular situation? If his testimony contradicts the testimony of spectators in any way, shape or form, he's not going to be given the benefit of the doubt. What's more, the forensic evidence concluded that A) the SUV didn't have a single weapon, or objects that resembled weapons, anywhere. It could be argued that the party in the SUV would have WANTED to dispose of such evidence, but how are they going to when there were so many witnesses? The police probably showed up minutes later, so there was no way for them to just make the gun vanish. Moreover, they themselves never even LEFT the parking lot! If a bunch of punks had anything to hide, I doubt they would have hung back at the scene and waited to  give their statements to the police, they'd either run to the hospital or hide out at a friend's place to lay low. And B) the victim never left the car. Ballistics don't lie, the victim was obviously in much more danger than Dunn ever was. And let's not forget how many rounds he peppered that SUV with - ten rounds is probably the entire clip. A simple warning shot or two would have drove the point right home. There just wouldn't be any way for a lawyer to use the cold hard facts of the case to somehow NOT make Dunn look like the aggressor. All he had to do was ignore some punk kids and their thumping bass while his biddy went and got some Merlot. The camera even showed her talking to the cashier when this all went down, so she would have been back out in under five minutes.

Hell, just look at the way he was testifying, even with his council's 'expert' advice. 'Yer not gunna kill ME, you SONOVABITCH!' What, does he think he's some grizzled detective in some early 80s pulp movie or Sin City or something? I would have actually had to stop myself from snickering if I was on jury duty that day. If *I* was in the situation he was in, my exclamations would probably be somewhere along the lines of 'OH SHIT', 'FUCK YOU', or just 'STOP' before opening fire.

Ultradude I agree that was definitely the last nail in the coffin for him, but do you think had she not testified he would’ve walked free? It is possible, who knows..

These types of guys dream of the confrontation. They are eager for the opportunity to “defend” themselves with deadly force. Same with Zimmerman and so many others.

Not necessarily.  Michael Dunn wouldn't be convicted without Rhonda s testimony. She's a woman with a conscience

BasedGod Strugglin' yes, probably so, I imagine many people will identify with his ‘court’ version of the story where he acts as the “protector” of the love of his life and so on and many will stand by him for showing those “thugs” what for; after all people believe what they wanna believe, most will never watch this documentary etc

As annoying as it is when people have super loud music and as stupid as this situation even is... it really is truly scary. He wanted his moment, and I know he was probably given a lot of praise for his actions.

bravo1IsixI yes, i agree, while watching the video i often wonder if i could express myself propeŕy during the interrogation since it seems like every word you say can literally be used against you later on, including the intonation etc. and if you focus too much on choosing your words carefully, people might say you lack humanity and emotions - sort of a trap if you ask me... however, in this guys case with what he said and how he acted, im glad he didn’t get a lawyer, he did kill a teenager after all and it obviously wasn’t an accident either

It’s a good lesson in “never talk to the cops”.

I think being rich and powerful the reason why people think the rich get off easy, when in actuality it is because they get a lawyer early. Thankfully not everyone thinks of getting one in time.


“Avid gun guy”. Ugh. This is the worst of that stereotype. A weak man who recklessly uses a gun to feel powerful.

Seriously.  Just listen to Joe Rogan and hit the weights.  I guess he can do that in prison too.


This is the most HD real court footage I’ve ever seen.

Looked like a Fincher film written by Sorkin

Seriously I thought I was watching a court show for a moment there.


"I didn't realize I was being charged with murder and attempted murder... That sucks" made me snort. Also like you know what really sucks? The fact a kid died.

17 about to be 18.  30 year olds are kids today.

I sat transfixed and horrified through the whole thing, then he said that and I snorted too. Then went right back to horrified.

It reminded me of me, though. I once got stabbed in the eye with a pencil (luckily not very deeply because I jerked back and it was a soft lead pencil), everyone turns around and looks and GASPs because I am sitting there with a pencil sticking out of my fingers what are covering my eye. I reach up with the other hand, yank the pencil out, hand it to the other adult who was coming over to assist me and said, totally deadpan, "Ouch. This sucks."


It’s clear he’s embellished the story. Why would one need to do that unless the truth is insufficient?  “Scared for my life so I went back to my motel and waited for more armed thugs, ordered a pie, popped a cork and didn’t call police.” Really?!?

I agree with you David if the truth is sufficient why lie

@fligglebobbin And taking the dog to use the bathroom (which he described as "potty", as though he was 5)

😂 he was so scared he needed the alcohol to escape his demons.


“I didn’t know I was being charged for murder and attempted murder, that sucks” guy is a joke

“That sucks” to the charge, no response to the death of a young man... Yikes


An absolute narcissist that showed NO remorse whatsoever... Disgusting. RIP Jordan Davis, may he rest in peace.


“I really didn’t know I was going to be charged with murder and attempted murder...That sucks.”

This guy...

@65firered Like someone else said,  he was relying on systemic racism and prejudice to see him through, but it backfired.

@socillizt4life It's ok to be white. He has no remorse it has nothing to do with race, at all.

That’s the mind state of a person who has lived an entire life with white privilege & entitlement!He is white privilege personified for those people who don’t blv white privilege is even a real thing

All he had to do was drive away from the loud music! Who is so entitled they think they are judge, jury, and executioner!!! Hey pops, let the kids have fun! You 😈 demon!!!

lmao no you don’t know . You don’t think about it when it go down .

“He was scared for his life” though. 🤣🤣 that whole sweet voice he had when they were interviewing him... 🤮🤮

Thats because he shot at them, so he wouldnt die fun fact


“where did you shoot at”
“i shot at the door”
“what was the purpose of that”
“to save my life”
“....from the door...”
IM PISSING MY PANTS THAT WAS SO FUNNY PLS. that cop was fed up w his bs

@Wyrmkin Toothgrim He didn't say all cops.

tbh I think people like Dunn are... mentally unable to take responsibility, if that makes sense? So they'll (conscioously or unconsciously? I don't know) say stuff like "I shot at the door" instead of "I shot at the person behind that door", because shooting at an object and hitting someone "incidentally" is less bad that hitting someone with intent and damaging an object for that purpose.

Police interrogations will also often say stuff like "the event" instead of "the shooting" or "the murder". Might be something like, softer language so these people don't put a guard back up? It's easier to be "considered" "part of an event" than being "accused" of "committing a crime", especially if you're unable to take responsibility.

@Jason Boyce True. And you can tell it breaks that detective's heart. He is so composed dealing with a tragedy.

@Sean Matthew King

Do you know what the word 'routinely' means, my guy?

@Sean Matthew King I would agree to an extent.

On one side, Imagine someone who has been shot at multiple times in the past and many times you couldn't tell until after the first shot, and the PTSD effects your decision making when you see a sudden movement that could be someone reaching for a gun.

At the same time, there are officers who are rather trigger happy and are despicable.

I laughed pretty hard when Dunn says “I thought they’d shoot the car so I got out” and the cop goes “your car wasn’t shooting them!?” 😂

@Wyrmkin Toothgrim No its not. They all claim to be brothers so they dont get to be a gang and individuals at the same time.

@Sean Matthew King Hey man, cops are individuals. Some cops genuinely shouldn't be cops, but it's unfair to assume all cops actively look for opportunities to kill.

Cop: 29:23 “I can’t shoot someone because “in my mind” they had a weapon.”

Also cops: Routinely kill people because they think someone has a weapon.

Just saying...

*Cop:* 29:23 “I can’t shoot someone because “in my mind” they had a weapon.”

*Also cops:* Routinely kill people because they think someone has a weapon.

Just saying...

Another funny thing the cop said “your car is not shooting at them.  You are.” Perfect logic!

I didn't know Bob Vance Vance Refrigeration was such a cold guy. But I guess it makes sense

i imagine him looking at the watch and thinking how long they had to listen to him


Rest in Peace Jordan Davis, your young life was heartlessly taken.

@SilentGamer this isn't pol. Simmer down.

@SilentGamer And a lovely night to you as well ;)

@L. R. Not really, but whatever helps you sleeping at night I guess, good night boy.

@SilentGamer Oh, you didn't trigger me I just saw your comments and thought you'd be fun to mess with. Clearly it worked, thanks for playing luv xx

@L. R. I can't even remember why I triggered you and you're still talking, that's quite sad actually.

@L. R. Wow and you think that would be an insult? How old are you?

@SilentGamer yes because i knew it would insult you ;)

@SilentGamer no im not but that was a really funny and clever insult 😐😐😐

@SilentGamer are the emojis too much for the nerd to handle? Do they hurt his smooth brain because he cant process emotions like the rest of us? Awww poor baby 😰😰😰

Imagine unironically  using emojis past 12 years old.

@SilentGamer imagine unironically using libtard as an insult in 2020 😭 i could not imagine being that smooth brained🤣😎

@Dylan Boe You clearly didn't get the point. Did he shoot them because they're teenagers or did he shoot them because they were threatening to take his life?

Let's check your comprehension

2020 and still think teenagers are innocents. Don't get me wrong, I agree that killing is wrong, but THREATENING to kill someone is fairly wrong too.

The fuck is wrong with you people defending these kids, masking them as "innocent". Not all of them are innocent.

@Gabrielle Purdy it's not okay to kill, but at the same time not okay to disrespect people just because they wanted your LOUD music turned down. Man, imagine if they just turned it down to their own, and not threatened like they were tough guys, this would've turned out completely different

@Christian Cullen why why shoot an innocent teenager

@Christian Cullen Are you trying to justify this guys actions for shooting at a bunch of teenagers?

@Christian Cullen why shoot a group of teenagers for being teenagers? Why not be considerate of human life?

The Bringer of Salt he did..str8 into a prison cell for life..Amen🙏🏾

That’s too horrible that precious soul was taken off this earth. Why didn’t the racist B just move his  car. Let the kids be kids.

M Czenk i think he meant the shooter and that he’s charged with murder

He hung around a shitty crowd apparently. Sucks for him.

Mathias Grün Tf is wrong with you. He didn’t even touch the radio. From my understanding he was in the back seat.

@Mathias Grün Do you think someone deserve to die because he disrespected an older person? I think by that logic half the world would be dead by now.

Mathias Grün um, I don’t give a fuck if he disrespected him. He had no right to take Jordan’s life.

@M Czenk Don´t be disrespecting older people. He own that bullet!

SilentGamer Serves him right how? For listening to music like people do? And some old racist decided to kill him?


Dude’s a monster and a coward for pretending to be the victim. He’s too emotionally stunted to understand the perspective of those guys whose normal day he turned into an actual horrifying and traumatic nightmare. He can’t see himself from the outside. He can’t see what he did. It’s like he’s a toddler with no theory-of-mind. It’s creepy that someone can commit murder and then be unable to see themselves as a murderer.

I feel the same!!! He had absolutely no remorse. Gun unfounded yet he needs to imagine that there was one in order to justify his murder.


It's frightening how many people out there think that all rules go out the window when they feel disrespected/offended.

And how many of those people have a gun in their disposal....


39:33 The only plausible explanation for this contradiction is that when he used the word kids, he was just using it to describe people who were significantly younger than him, not necessarily people who are minors.
I've met multiple people throughout my late teens and 20s who have referred to me and other people in my age group as "kids," not because we were actual kids, but because the person in question was middle-aged or older.

Not saying that the guy is defensible in any way, I'm just saying that it's something that a lawyer could explain away in court


- "am i being charged with murder and attempted murder?"
- "yes"
- "that sucks..." 😂


I am sincerely disturbed by the prejudice of this dude and how it manifested into a total nightmare. What a tragedy. My heart hurts for anyone close to the situation and anyone even potentially triggered by this racist confrontation.


I can see how much it bothers her that it was her idea to stop at the store. She had no idea what was going to go down but if they skip that stop then non of this probably happens.

the question is if he would do something like that later, or it would never happen and he would live his life. I would really like to know.


Rhonda did an amazing thing in telling the truth. This man was clearly a manipulative, controlling man. She did the right thing. You do not lie to cover a partners massive error. You never lie to law enforcement. You never "cover" for a partner. Its not worth the trouble you can get in. Honesty is hard, but it's so important. I respect Rhonda for being honest and doing what was right. She was hurting but stayed strong. I wish her all the best in her future I really do.


Despite the fact that this man is a cold blooded criminal and it’s good that he’s off the streets, this is another great example of why you should always get a lawyer.

He talked so much without counsel in his initial interrogation that his case was over before it even began. Crazy.


I can tell Rhonda had a great upbringing.  She is a rare diamond in a world of rocks.  We need more people like her.

She sang like a bird because women watch a lot of true crime and they know what happens if you lie to the cops.

For telling the truth on the stand? Well, you know that she would have been crucified if she had said anything else... her earlier interrogation testimony was that no gun had been mentioned by Mike. The detectives made sure to get a recording of her saying it twice at least.<br>So at the trial, she had no choice but to tell the truth on that point. The defense would have already known this and should have been prepared for it.

For telling the truth on the stand? Well, you know that she would have been crucified if she had said anything else... her earlier interrogation testimony was that no gun had been mentioned by Mike. The detectives made sure to get a recording of her saying it twice at least.
So at the trial, she had no choice but to tell the truth on that point. The defense would have already known this and should have been prepared for it.


The Way that he kept firing at the car when they were driving away reminded me of a Swedish shooting, where the cops killed a 20 year old man with downs syndrome, described as "Having the mental and communicative capacity of a 3 year old"
He had ran away from home with a toy gun, an obvious one that is made of plasic and is green and blue.
Cops found him due to the mother calling that he had ran away and was carrying a toy gun but just wanted him found. At the time he was apparently just playing in the woods.

The Three cops claimed they feared he was aggressive as he raised his obvious toy gun and shot at him 25 times, where 3 of those shots hit, two in the back with one being fatal.
The cops was cleared of all charges.

"No no, we were the victims. He tried to attack us with an imaginary weapon!"

@Aimee Nicole it would be if it were true.  Found the news story, neighbors called in to police saying they thought it was a real gun.  It is described as resembling a ‘submachinegun’, not a ray gun.  Young man’s name was Eric Torell, look it up.

Omg.... that is fucking devastating. : (


Alcohol, not wanting to look like a milk toast in front of your faience..and a narcissistic hero complex led to this. It always amazes me the lengths that people will go to..to try and make the world revolve around themselves. My condolences to the family of that young boy.


I've met this kind of fellow many times in life. A truly unsalvageable type of individual.


I honestly think he thought he’d get away with it, and have Rhonda white lie about not shooting or being there. But then someone died, and talking his way out of it was no longer the case.. The ego is so powerful, the ego has caused so many fights and deaths bc walking away seems weak. Walk away, it’s a harder option!