If you were so so scared of the guys in the car, you wouldn't have asked them to turn down the music.

@MISC u mean urself i think but nevermind

@MISC watch the video before answering a question..ur answer  wasnt the case in this story

@Ride there are two factors. One is the drug, the other is the person...  A person without judgement, can,t handle drugs, or even themselves.

In my opinion I think he drank too much liquid courage at the wedding reception and was picking a fight. If the thug music was so damn loud and hurt his ear as Michael Dunn put it....why did park so close to their vehicle that he couldn't completely open his car door without hitting the red trunk when there where other open  parking spaces? The coward felt tough bullying kids I doubt he would ask 3 adult Hells angels to turn their music down..

@MISC i mean, ok show the gun and/or shoot in the air one, two. if they are still not afraid, maybe hit in the tires, but not like bam bam bam ~10 shoots in the middle of the care. come one...

unless you have a gun, then you dont care and think you are almighty

thats true but the fact that they turned it down then back up shows they wanted a fight... they were trying to bully everyone else..

@A Mcintosh Of course they can penetrate a car door so long as it isn't armoured.

Exactly i would never talk to them if i was terrified of them

he wasnt scared of them until they said stuff about kiling

@MISC And as for my first response, I'm not sure why it's not showing up as I would like it to (although I did send it from my phone) but it seems that is a common occurrence for comments nowadays.

@SPOONING KAT "poor reading comprehension" am i the one that needed a second try to write his comment?

salt and vinegar EXACTLY!! IF The kids would have been REAL GUN WAVING  GANGSTERS....This dummy would have been SCARED to even look at them.

Deadass. Scared = flee . You don’t instigate altercation when you’re scared 😑

@Connor Jones angry old dude wasn't about to have some kids back talk him. Even in the interrogation you can see parts where he tries to use trigger words to get off. Saying things like "I feared for my life". Later on the stand turned into "clear and present danger". Icarus flew too close to the sun that day

And keep firing at a retreating car while not a single shot was fired at him

@MISC I think for the first time in your life you need to admit a loss everybody in the comments disagrees with you.

@MISC i never called u stupid.. you should read the whole comment just like you should have watched the whole video. but if you’re scared of a bear your not gonna walk up to it and ask it not to go through your camp site... it’s just smart to ignore something if it’s imposing a threat

I would never ask someone to turn down the music. If I don't like it, I move.

He didn't ask.  He picked a fight with them.

repsandgrooves — It’s hard to tell exactly what his intent was.... At first I didn’t think he intended to kill them or else he would’ve shot directly through the glass, but I didn’t know bullets from a hand gun were strong enough to go through car doors!..... Yikes. He kept on saying “I shot at the door” like he didn’t know the bullets can go through it. My guess is that he was just pissed and wanted to shoot up the vehicle.

@MISC    that’s a really stupid thing to say... “i didn’t watch the video” ... like you have no say if you didn’t watch...

Or just park elsewhere. This guy just wanted to be a tough guy with his gun. I believe it was the perfect opportunity for him. My thinking is that he was trying to kill them all, hence firing so many shots. If he was truly afraid, he would have warned them or fired a warning shot (if he believed he was truly on danger). He's a maniac.

@Connor Jones you're right, I commented on them both today. My bad

@MISC No, I believe you're thinking of Michael Drejka, another video on this channel.

@MISC But they never attacked, especially after they were shot at

no. you dont always assume people will attack you. you ask them to turn down the music, they attack and NOW you are scared of them, so you retaliate. I havent watched the video so i dont know the full case but that statement isnt true


I feel sorry for that woman and for that boy's parents

@Hanna  common thing in Jacksonville. Rip to the two boys though.

I searched up the parents and they had two sons and both passed away. So sad.


6:55  I’m kind of irritated that they have edited out part of the testimony. What did Jordan say to Mike Dunn that pissed him off when Dunn said “You talking to me?”? I don’t like editing (when it’s censorship).
As far as the guilt of Dunn goes, it doesn’t matter — nothing justifies what he did. But I feel like it was cut from the video to avoid ignorant comments, and that is dangerous. That’s the slippery slope we’ve been on for the last couple of years. Social media has deemed themselves the babysitters of the world; THEY’ll decide what is good for you and what is bad for you, what might upset you, or what might hurt your feelings, and they’ll hide it from you TO PROTECT YOU. Like the jab — it’s all for your own good.


The guy strikes me as a person who was itching for any provocation to use his gun so to prove to the world what a real man he is when in fact he is a mealy-mouthed coward.

@James Soltis I think you are on to something.

@Rhea B I'm a conservative. But to be fair almost all others like me all have dreams of self defense. Nothing wrong with it, but obsessing on it can be dangerous.

@Jennifer Yea gotta agree, I own a 1911 and over 5k rounds of ammo but never shoot.

As a legal conceal carrier who has my firearm every waking moment on my (unless where not legally allowed), people like this make me sick to my stomach. This is what gives responsible gun owners a bad name.

@catch 2022 Spelled with a hyphen, "mealy-mouthed" or as a single word, "mealymouthed". Def. Unwilling to state facts or opinions simply, directly, and with sincerity; communicates in a deceitful and disingenuous manner; speaks with a forked-tongue.

I don't actually know what mealy mouthed means

+Kling. An average hidden carrier then... /sarcasm

@Jaqen H'ghar Correct you are.  The NEW conservatives are ideological culture warriors who are fueled by fear and looking for ANY reason to be the victim...and are over-reactive because they lack prognostic. logical cognitive-thinking skills.  All that is POLAR opposite of what the conservatives were in this country just a couple decades ago.

Nip the kid provoked it. Watch youtube videos about what happened and what he did. The trial is all there.

@Jennifer  I'm not a conservative by any means, but I can't agree with that. And how do you own guns, and never touch them? Wouldn't you want to know how to properly handle a gun in the event you need to use it for self defense?  Stop lying just to prove a point.

@Jennifer Really? That's strange since there are approximately 150 million gun owners in the US while the Republican Party has approximately 72 million members. The 2nd Amendment applies to all American citizens who haven't forfeited their rights by committing a felony, not just those members of a certain party.

After reading your comment I can deff see that! Itchy trigger finger.

Facts, Big facts. NO 🧢. (I strike  as smn who just wants to use those expressions) but facts tho, f him

Ya don't take em to the range or hunting? I mean... chmon...

What's the point of owning em if ya ain't gonna touch them.

If you have to whip out a gun there's a good chance you're already dead type of deal...

@Alan Bunder If he was a daily drinker, a measly 4 rum & Cokes is nothing.

Jennifer A and you just proved you know very few if any “conservatives that own guns”. Nice try though.

F. Friedrich Kling ...the state of Florida is filled with such ‘men’.

Was also probably buzzed bordering on drunk if he'd had 4 rum and cokes before leaving a wedding reception early.

That reminds me of most conservatives who own guns. All they obsess over is getting to use their guns. I own guns and never touch them.


Guilty as sin.  Guys like these are horrible for the 2A rights.


“They’re all fine.” Yeah, no they’re not. They witnessed the murder of one of their friends. Nobody is “fine” after that kind of trauma.

The saddest part about the whole story is the mother of the young kid I fell so bad for here

@Peter Löwenbräu Griffin except there is no evidence that the victim ever threatened Michael Dunn.

Just him saying that's how it happened.

@wewd exactly. If I killed in self defense, I’d feel that I would never forgive myself for it

his friends are probably better off without him. I do feel sorry for them for their trauma and for Rhonda, I just have no sympathy for either psychopath michael nor death threat guy

I think they meant physically but yeah they’re traumatized for life now

If you're talking about what the detective said, he clearly meant fine as in, they didn't get any bullet wounds

@Eminator Studios It's a satirical comment.

@wewd yeah, seems like he’s missing a crucial section of his brain.

People who have to kill in self defense are also not "fine". It's super traumatic to them. If I had to do something like that, I would be so messed up I wouldn't eat anything for a week, but this guy was ordering pizza that same night. He's clearly a psychopath who wanted to do something like this for years and finally got his chance.


It’s disgusting he really thought he was going to get away with this.

Charles Darwin there were most definitely racist undertones with calling it thug music and feeling threatened by a group of black men.

@memomorph so far I don't see how racism plays into it. I think that if a couple of "thuggish looking white guys were blasting music at a gas station he would have had the same reaction. He's a text book narcissist, and I guarantee you he treats everyone he sees as a "thug" equally as bad. Sure, he could very well be a racist, but there's really no indication of such.

Definitely!  I think the suspects racism plays into both why he felt so threatened by a car full of boys and his callous interview responses with the detective.  He might not see African Americans as equal


The man who's "Witness 7" and said he saw the red durango, heard the loud music and "didn't want to deal with it" was easily the smartest person in this whole situation. If a tense situation is present and you're not involved, just avoid it.

What drives me mad is that he literally had to deal with the music for like what, 5 minutes?? And he would of drove away  and would probably never see them again..smh


I am a white man from Europe, living in a 99.8% white comunity. But even I can see that this guy was clinging onto a privilege he felt he had in that moment to feel fairly superior to that bunch of teenagers. And it wasn't the age angle. I wonder if he ever realized the music was just a frame for the culture had to teach a lesson.<br>Also, well played as a victim, bro! Just think of the heartfelt tear he shed for the dog. Devastating.

I am a white man from Europe, living in a 99.8% white comunity. But even I can see that this guy was clinging onto a privilege he felt he had in that moment to feel fairly superior to that bunch of teenagers. And it wasn't the age angle. I wonder if he ever realized the music was just a frame for the culture had to teach a lesson.
Also, well played as a victim, bro! Just think of the heartfelt tear he shed for the dog. Devastating.


He feared so much for his life that when one of the guys supposedly said ‘I’m gonna kill you’, he rolled DOWN his window.

Yeah, that plastic window is going to protect you from 4 determined thugs.

@V J it's "rolled" haha because back in the day we used to have to turn a crank to literally roll down the windows in the car.  Old school

I don’t know why you are jumping down Richard’s throat you harridans. He just provided the shooter’s likely rationale for rolling down his window. No need to jump him for perceived wrong think lol

This is KEY and I hope they mentioned this during his trial

Richard Porter You sound like a hater as well. Not surprising though, there are lots of you out there. Just hope you can hold your temper, else you could end up in jail for the rest of your life like Michael Dunn.

@Rebecca Buschhorn You mean he <b>was</b> a nobody with a gun. Now he's just a nobody with no gun and no key to his door.

@Rebecca Buschhorn You mean he *was* a nobody with a gun. Now he's just a nobody with no gun and no key to his door.

Exactly.... he is a hot head who was itching to use his firearm.

@Rebecca Buschhorn Or...you know...drive a little further. He's in a box that can move to another position after all lol


Without Rhonda's testimony, he still didn't have a case but I'm glad she told the truth.

It was really brave of her to tell the truth when they asked her if Dunn had told her about the kids having a gun, especially with her psychotic fiance right there


Dead 17 year old and his response to being charged is

“ that sucks “

@ctx I think, emotions takes too much energy, he just way too exausted to give any other response.

How about he a knowledge the three young men who had to watch their friend die- or perhaps the agony and pain the parent’s feel.  “That sucks”- he is exactly where he should be.

I mean, it's not really situation for which you have appropriate response. He just muttered it to not be silent I guess.

@Meep Meep wanna rp as a skinny Japanese girl

@Crispy . sarcasm! I'm just kinda roleplaying a sympathizer for our murderer here.

I mean it's just a 17 year old thug right?

Yeah, it's clear he doesn't care that he died

Before finishing the video I thought this comment was just a paraphrase but holy shit he actually said that (48:01)


“I refuse to be a victim here.”
*spends the rest of the call crying about how he’s a victim*

“I refuse to be a victim here.”
**spends the rest of the call crying about how he’s a victim**

he actually said "i refused to be the victim". meaning he was not going to be the victim here, hence why he grabbed his gun and shot at those poor kids.

That’s why I cannot have gun!  I can’t handle an argument or a threat.  A lot of people are like me too.  It’s best to assume everyone else has gun and know that I don’t so I can just let things go or try to avoid trouble altogether.


So she doesn't sound like a kitten all the time


Thank you for covering this. Holy shit, I remember hearing about this right after it happened and it just made me sick. Murders, killings, death, all are upsetting. But something about this one stuck out and made me especially sad and baffled and horrified.

He killed a boy for pride. Drunken, racist pride.
And that just haunts me.

@stides40 Also what's race got to do with this case? x

I doubt he was drunk if he really only had 4 rum and cokes at the wedding in 3 hours time.  That's how many drinks Rhonda said he had and she didn't lie about anything else.


“who reached for the barrel”
“well i’m hoping it was the guy i hit”
i’m beyond disgusted, he knew he wanted to kill him

@Bari actually it wouldn’t. Him saying that is him claiming he believed someone did actually reach for the barrel he just didn’t  know who.

That’s the point if someone’s pointing a gun at you?

Facts he killed the kid with the most mouth. Shooting him three times was not a Coincidence .

also futher incriminating himself as he just admitted he had no idea who reached for the barrel, because noone did


He is repulsive. You can tell that he thought he could talk the cops into sympathizing with him and walk out of there a free man. He's just oozing with entitled hubris. He's absolutely not sorry that he took the life of a 17-yr. old kid.

He was even bragging about his marksmanship and "training" to create some sort of bond with the cops

@Zachary Odom This young man was not someone to implicate in his lies by saying something like he was afraid for life and everyone in the car. Who knows how the mind of a liar works? His entire story was spun out if whole cloth. It would be naive to think that juries aren't somewhat influenced by a person's background. The more the defense can dirty up the young men in that car, the more they would salivate over it. They were barking up the wrong tree with this young person. They didn't have anything against him to try to present him in an unsympathetic light! I'm looking at this through the eyes of a defense lawyer not as someone with a moral compass. I don't think anyone should be murdered, unless it's in self-defense. Since my statement wasn't clear, I'll amend it or delete it.


I was so terrified and thought my life was in danger that I fled to my hotel, ordered a pizza, took my little dog for a walk, played some Candy Crush on my phone, and then went to bed and slept soundly till the next day. So scared.


Imagine putting the person you "love" so much through this hell, attempting to coax her into committing perjury and lie to the faces of two parents of the kid you murdered.

@sylvia puppysticker Imagine if he'd treat her the same way he treated his ex-wives.

I could never even imagine doing that! I’d only be thinking  “OMG! I killed someone?!?!? OMG!”

@Matthew Smith justtt imagine non - EXISTENCE

James Baz you know damn well that wasn’t the point of their comment you ignoramus

Imagine if she married him and he ever "lost his temper" with her... I think he wouldve tried to cover up his crime just like he <b>tried</b> to do here

Imagine if she married him and he ever "lost his temper" with her... I think he wouldve tried to cover up his crime just like he *tried* to do here


"Who reached down and picked the gun up?"
"Well, hopefully it was the guy I hit..."

This monster's callousness is only matched by his idiocy.

I hope you meant to write gun instead of fun...

Diamond Axe Studios Music Yeah that statement was a huge Red Flag! Huge! For someone trying to play the victim that was a huge slip.


First guy, "I heard loud music. I didn't want to deal with it so I went somewhere else". THAT'S the way you deal with this situation like an adult.

@Jason B lolwhat? i listen to my music while not bothering others, so i expect others to behave the same way. if they're "enjoying loud music" and if they are bothering me, they should turn it down, otherwise they're not respecting others and not just "the part of the different culture"

@Lobuttomize There is nothing to be biased about. I would say this even if nobody had died, even if it was two white kids and an old black guy, etc. This is basic common sense. "Polite" implies that it is a part of some kind of etiquette or courtesy. Placating a violently angry, adult stranger who is rude to you and your teenage friends is not a part of curtesy or etiquette. They had absolutely zero reason to listen to him, nor did they need to. In certain self defense classes, you're actually taught to ignore those types of people completely. So, no, it wasn't childish. Also, he said "Fuck him" privately to his friends as he told them that old guy's opinion didn't matter, and that they deserved to have their music turned back up. He said "Fuck you" loudly in response to when the guy returned and told them to turn it back down again. You're talking about two different parts of the situation. That's not antagonistic, nor is it childish. He had quite literally every reason not to listen to him. The only thing he shouldn't have done was respond to him verbally, because he didn't deserve to be acknowledged.

@OliveBranch You're very clearly letting your bias influence you on this. The one kid turned it off because it's the polite thing to do. The other kid, even according to his friends, was acting up by turning it back up and saying stuff like "fuck him," obviously loudly enough for the shooter to hear him. If you genuinely believe that turning the radio back up to the level that was bothering another person who asked that you turn it down is an adult thing to do, you're childish as well

@Lobuttomize Whether he yelled at them immediately or slightly after he came back, he was still the instigator and was still extremely confrontational and rude. No logical person would have any reason to listen to him. You're assuming they only turned the music up to agitate him, but they already had the music up. They didn't turn it up to a higher volume, they returned it to the volume it was already at before he even got there. That's not them being antagonistic or childish. That's them being stubborn at worst, which they were well within their right to do, considering he was an aggressive stranger.

@OliveBranch Did it say he did initially? The witness says he said something like "Can you turn the music down, I can't hear myself think." After they turned it back up they likely got into a yelling match. Either way, turning music already turned down back up to be obstinate and purposely annoy somebody-<del>even if they were rude-</del> is childish

@OliveBranch Did it say he did initially? The witness says he said something like "Can you turn the music down, I can't hear myself think." After they turned it back up they likely got into a yelling match. Either way, turning music already turned down back up to be obstinate and purposely annoy somebody--even if they were rude-- is childish

@Lobuttomize There is witness testimony stating that the only person they heard yelling was him yelling at the boys. There was nothing childish about their behavior. Refusing to listen to a screaming old stranger isn't childish.

@OliveBranch You know children can act childish? And nobody said he yelled at them when he requested they turn it down initially

@Lobuttomize He wasn't acting childish, he <i>was</i> a child. Even a grown adult would be annoyed by a crusty old dude screaming at them for no reason, obviously a teenage boy isn't going to respond with unquestioned compliance and agreement. Nobody reacts politely to negative confrontation.

@Lobuttomize He wasn't acting childish, he _was_ a child. Even a grown adult would be annoyed by a crusty old dude screaming at them for no reason, obviously a teenage boy isn't going to respond with unquestioned compliance and agreement. Nobody reacts politely to negative confrontation.

The initial exchange was handled like an adult where he asked and they complied. The guy turning it back up and talking back about the situation was childish. Shooting the guy for being childish was criminal

True, not fucking shooting someone to get the “thug music” turned off

True, not fucking shooting someone to get the “thug music” turned off

@bryanna graham I am in my 60s and I can still remember playing very loud music, it was called the "devils" music back then 😂

@Tucker Im 23 about to be 24 and I play my music loud sometimes too. Just because someone else is annoyed doesn't mean you have to not be happy. I think its just crazy this kid had to lose his life bc of some racist white man in a bad mood.

@No View the only “thug” in this situation is the one that murdered a 17 year old child.

Or you could remember when you were a teenager how you liked loud music

Or you could remember when you were a teenager how you liked loud music

But you can’t if they got four Ak-47’s and flashing gangsta signs! And don’t forget, they were all wearing matching bandannas...

Me depending on my mood.

Play an even louder music so they will know how it feels and consciously aware until they turn it off themselves.

Grab my ear phones.

@No View eye witness testified that it was Dunn who was shouting, didn’t hear those kids say anything threatening. His own fiancé testified that he made no mention of any gun waved at him. Why don’t YOU keep your mouth shut

Nah, the proper way to deal with loud music in a parking lot is ignore it. lol

Nah, the proper way to deal with loud music in a parking lot is ignore it. lol

@No View here's the same scenario under different light... An intoxicated man with an admitted hate of what he categorized as "thug music" passive-aggressively requests strangers who are enjoying themselves to turn down their music for his agitated sake. The first young man complies, the other young man protests (within his rights to do so) and the intoxicated man rolls down his window to confront the protesting young man. Why? Pride? Liquid balls? Had he not had the gun in the glovebox, what options would he have had? Exit the vehicle and have a physical confrontation with the agitated teen? But since he had the gun, he escalates, as the investigator said, from 0-100 and never stopped at 50. Too bad they didn't get his BAC at the time it happened, because I'm sure the rum & cokes he had were a big contribution to his thought process and actions. Too bad the intoxicated thug with the gun didn't just keep his window up and his temper down.

@Marco Im guessing you didnt fully read my original comment.  Maybe you should do that before you start questioning me.

@Angel_eyes65 something tells me the white dude's 'system' probably was stock. 🤣🤣

You should respect other people, and turn ya music down. Plus that man should have just rolled his windows up, and played his music up loud.

Whenever I get told I'm under arrest for murder and attempted murder I always say "well that sucks."

@E. Sterling then what exactly are you defending?? Teens being teens?? Yeah they should learn more respect. But Id assume that when something bothers u, u leave. Not shoot someone.

Alcohol and a gun makes superheros out of mere mortals

Alcohol and a gun makes superheros out of mere mortals

Even if you had to stay for a minute or two you can listen to your own music or tune it out. It's not that hard. I do it all the time when people blast country or mumble rap.

@Jason B Yeah but thing is most people HAVE listened to other music and know what they like and dont like. They dont need educated by random people about different types. Its incredibly rude and selfish to blast your music so loud and not care that its disturbing other people. Doing that is saying i only care about MY wants, and just disregarding anyone elses. A lot time that selfishness goes away with maturity.  Theres a reason why we dont drive down the street and constantly hear everyones car blaring loud music,  (whether rap, classical, rock etc.) And thats because its largely accepted that its rude.  And for example i highly doubt those teens (in this specific case) would have enjoyed listening to someone else in that parking lot playing loud operatic music. They too would have been annoyed.  (And I'm not defending this guys behavior btw.)

@No View there was at least a teen in there. Young people are  usually immature. This guy is racist. If they really were planning on shooting on him they couldve shot back at least once. He was calm, and he had time to shoot. This was disgusting especially the amount of times he shot

@No View right but still their was no need to pull out a gun and shoot either

@No View right but still their was no need to pull out a gun and shoot either

A man politely asks a fellow man to turn his loud music down, the other man is polite and turns the music down, then the thug in the back seat had to start problems and threaten to kill because he didnt want the music down, and a man prepared to defend himself and out of fear overreacted. To bad the thug in the backseat didnt just keep his mouth shut

Or appreciate the different culture. If it's just music, might as well absorb what other people enjoy and try understanding their interests.

@E. Sterling Yeah “the victim and the victor.” It’s out of control

@E. Sterling Yeah “the victim and the victor.” It’s out of control

literally like 😭 its a parking lot he literally couldve just drove to a different spot or even to a different store but he acted like he was stuck beside them in an enclosed space. he was absolutely looking for an altercation

@E. Sterling also this guy seemed so much more guilty because his ego was more important then him not looking guilty

@E. Sterling especially in areas where people come and go. If it were a residential situation, that'd be different but even then a firearm shouldn't be brandished or used even in that situation. This guy deserves time.

Yep. I mean even if i was annoyed by the rudely loud music I would still say nothing. Just get what you need and leave.  (And yes i think anyone playing music super loud to where everyone near by can hear it is rude. And its usually teenagers.)

No even an adult, any rational human being would know how to find the proper solution to the issue


Ironically he is going to live in a place where it is never quiet. Ever.

@Michael Trenton Baby, he is in Florida lmao. Florida has some of the most dangerous prisons. He will be a maximum security.

Caleb Compton idk law that well why would they no put him in the general population?

Yep I'm sure he hears all kinds of hip hop nowadays.       Even if its only someone rapping at the next table. <br>My money is on he doesn't complain anymore.

Yep I'm sure he hears all kinds of hip hop nowadays.       Even if its only someone rapping at the next table.
My money is on he doesn't complain anymore.

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@Gloria0082 yeah because thats what happens in prison. Just hanging out playing music at all hours.

If I was his jailmate and found out who he was...guess who playing tupac after hours!!😂😂😂😂😯

@They_Call_Me_ Pebbles correct. Thats why I differentiated between them. Take a reading comprehension course.

@Isidro salas they probably do it worse there . as they are usually mad . and bang on the doors and walls

@Michael Trenton y'all thinkin of the holding cells with drunks and addicts going through withdraws. Once you are transfered to either your cell or your pod, a room full of about 20 bunk beds, things end up normal. Most people aren't in for life and prefer to keep a normal and usually very clean living space. Give respect and get respect. I was in for 1 week and it was more quiet than my own household at night.

@Abraar Shah won't get within 5 locked doors of him. Prisoners don't run the prisons, you are aware of that right? I'm guessing you get 100% of your knowledge of prisons from movies and TV.

Trust me! Prisoners do NOT like people who kill children!especially for playing loud music, they will open him up like a tin of tuna.

The weeping and gnashing of teeth, I can imagine hell would be pretty loud

@lifeisgood070 since Dahmer got killed in prison. Most if not all high profile inmates are segregated. Thats prison though. Most jails don't give a fuck who you are and u need to request protective custody.

I think he's underestimating his ability to have gotten that kid angry enough to advance on him.

Hes gonna hear "thug music" as he calls it 24/7, he better learn to like it. Theres talented rappers in prison, and producers, they can make a sick beat with with only a pen and a desk top.

First night getting used to the noise in any prison is shit as fuck!

24 to a pod not ever a chance everyone is going to be quiet all night

@lifeisgood070 cause he's not going to want to hook up with the white boys in prison and put in work, but if he doesn't, the brothers in there are gonna want to split his motherfuckin cap wide open. I mean, that was basically a hate crime.

@Caleb Compton That sent me into panic mode, but he deserves it. It's just more than I can stand to think about if I had to do it.

I picture Eddie Murphy singing Roxanne with his headphones on. (48 Hours)

@lifeisgood070 <br>He'll probably request it. All you have to do is say you fear for your life.

@lifeisgood070
He'll probably request it. All you have to do is say you fear for your life.

I can vouch for this mr magne is correct.

@lifeisgood070 The other inmates would probably try to knife him...because of what he did.....there is nothing heroic in killing a kid, who meant no harm.....also he is not exactly a 'gang' person, so he would definitely be taken advantage of by other experienced inmates.

Exactly!!! Loud music eh ? Yea okay, I can't imagine what he'l be hearing from now on in prison!

@Caleb Compton why is that? Why is he in protective custody? And not GP?

Gonna be surrounded by a whole bunch of thugs now 😂

He's most likely going to be be in PC for the rest life. 23 hour lockdown. He definitely isn't going GP

They gonna be playing the same type of music that he shot that kid over

@Michael Trenton ones who are slamming shyt around at night tryna keep people awake are gonna have to keep that same energy when they lights come on so its not gonna be an every night thing. Every prison is different though and every pod is different. If you're n a dorm or pod with alot of young kids who are up all night then you'll prolly have some issues if u want it to stop

Ever... Protective Custody for the remainder of his life behind bars.


If he was legitimately in danger, and reacted in self defense, he wouldn't have fled the scene then left the county the next morning.

Those are two completely different cases buddy. Drejka was assaulted, then shot. Michael Dunn shot at teenagers who he claimed "threatened" him with words. Not even close to the same.

@Sherry Drake well, you can, but it doesn't help your "self defense" claim. Also, thank you for watching the whole video before commenting.

Plus once the "danger" is driving away from you, you can't keep shooting at the car.

@Gene Clark ideally, innocent people who exercised their right to protected themselves with lethal force legally. Why have most of the replies to this comment been in defense of a guy that murdered someone? Did you watch this whole video? Or just scroll to the comments to reply without context?


@15:12...oh I can't hear anything he's saying but there was a lot of fuck him and fuck that which obviously insulted me. oh wait shit.


This guy is completely delusional and lives in his own bubble. He's convinced that the police would find some weapon on them (to help his case) just because he thinks they're thugs for cussing at him and yet he's the one who kills in cold blood just like that. How do you live like that?

isnt it what we call ''white priveledge''?

I think he is going on the Karen theory is you see someone who is black and you are in fear of their blackness therefore you are justified in your actions despite the outcome and the presence of eminent danger


this is just sad.  Just some kids listening to music.  who cares what they were listening to or what they were doing.  People have fought for our freedom just so we can do this.  but then you have these bigots....what a shame


Imagine feel so entitled, so self centered that you sit in your car with a bunch of others sitting in their car and you believe you have the power to control what happens in their vehicle all because of what YOU PREFER at that very moment. I hope this guy gets everything he deserves, in the worst way

@Mandy Candy so it's boo hoo if someone expects loud music to be kept down because kids don't need or shouldn't have to be subjected to that kind of language.  Boo hoo for anyone who doesn't want to hear cursing and murdering music screaming out someone else car but the car disrespecting all kids in earshot of their music is all good??? Ok got it

@Anu Kal Yes, I'm aware of keeping the face. People grinning like idiots while being angry. You call that superior, I call it ridiculous.

Yes, he obviously overreacted but I understand why. When you're tired, ask someone to do something nicely and then the teens start getting in your face, it's too much.

Funny how you don't apply the same logic in regard to the aggressive teens. If they just had kept their mouths shut and turned down the music, they'd be fine.

@Bill Lumbergh It's funny you go on to defend that a snowflake is someone who gets offended unnecessarily, but then justify this man's action with a 'code'. One could argue that a man who gets so upset by a bunch of unarmed teenagers is the real coward. I mean, you must have no mastery of mind body and spirit if every little thing gets you upset.

The code of men in the East is that a real man never gets flustered, no matter what. You handle it calmly. Getting wildly angry over little things is something animals do. What distinguishes us from them is our power of self mastery.

@Isis Montgomery yea cool but like what if he's actually telling the truth and they did threaten to kill him and pretend to have a gun and he genuinely shot in self defense, you'd still wish that upon him?

@Jay Bee hey now, take it easy, he's only not white sometimes, like when it suits him

@Nauzika lmao i almost couldn't believe this guy was actually saying that with that name

@Tom Steinhardt awww, you're sad to be white, steinhardt? we should just feel so bad right, us whites?

@0 1 Please, I beg you, change your ways. Seriously. That's a terrible and dangerous mindset. Maybe you're joking though.

@Anu Kal Sure, I can agree with that. But in the western modern sense of the term, it means someone who gets offended easily about things that don't concern them. This was not one of those cases.<br>Guys have pride and a code, so if someone insults you and laughs at you, you can expect repercussions. I'm not approving of his methods but just "letting it go" is also not a good way to go about it. If everyone just let's everything go in society, nothing would improve. And yes, 95%+ people are exactly like this and this is why they lead average insignificant lives.

@Anu Kal Sure, I can agree with that. But in the western modern sense of the term, it means someone who gets offended easily about things that don't concern them. This was not one of those cases.
Guys have pride and a code, so if someone insults you and laughs at you, you can expect repercussions. I'm not approving of his methods but just "letting it go" is also not a good way to go about it. If everyone just let's everything go in society, nothing would improve. And yes, 95%+ people are exactly like this and this is why they lead average insignificant lives.

@Anu Kal i think you're using what appears to be, extremely low IQ emotional gibberish, to change the story of what happened to a man killing someone because he didn't like the music they were playing, rather than a man killing someone because they threatened his life, because this new alternative narrative comforts you emotionally

@Bill Lumbergh lol thanks for trolling, have a great night

@Bill Lumbergh lol thanks for trolling, have a great night

@Bill Lumbergh It's interesting to read your view on 'snowflake', saying that a man with a gun is no snowflake.

In the East, we say 'the general is greatest who wins his wars without shedding a drop of blood'.

So a trigger-happy guy with such little self control that he pulls a gun in kids in a car is actually the weakest man. Because strength is about mastery of mind and body, regardless of circumstance. If he had really mastered his mind, he would not have reacted so harshly at a pit stop!

@Mandy Candy Same reason why people go to jail for small amounts of marijuana or people who torture animals are NOT jailed for years. The justice system is far from fair and just.

@Autonomous Thought I think you're using what appears to be 'logic' to obfuscate the fact that a man (of whatever race) got so upset by a bunch of kids (of whatever race) playing music, that he decided to take out a gun and shoot them. Since you accuse Mandy of being 'leftist', and to some extent brainwashed, let's remove race out of it.

The fact of the case still remains that a man was so entitled to 5 minutes if peace that he shot a bunch of kids. Come on! Are you not able to see the insanity of this?

5 minutes of loud music or a lifetime in prison? 'nuf said...:D

5 minutes of loud music or a lifetime in prison? 'nuf said...:D

@Bill Lumbergh if his actions were so justified why's he doing 90 yrs plus a life sentence? Answer me that since you're so smart

@Bill Lumbergh shooting someone because their music was loud? Because there was no reason to shoot in the first place? There was imminent threat

He won't. Unfortunately, he's not good looking.

He won't. Unfortunately, he's not good looking.

Milton Waddams - .... that is a different set of circumstances where there are noise disturbance laws. Also, I wouldn’t attempt to shoot a person for making noise. Call the police (in your hypothetical situation) or in this situation, drive away.

@Mandy Candy again, no he didn't feel "entitled like he had the power to make those black kids turn their music down", he asked them, which is perfectly within his right and not necessarily wrong, not especially entitled. the fact that he asked them to turn it down is evidence that he is aware they have the right to keep it up. also you're using the word entitled like it makes any kind of point when it doesn't, people should feel entitled to things like freedom and liberty, entitlement isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's not as strong an argument as you seem to think it is to call someone entitled. you don't know what happened and neither do i. you don't know that the kid didn't have a shotgun that was later disposed of by the other kids before the cops got there. you do not know that the black kid wasn't threatening his life and pretending he had a gun. that kind of shit happens, trust me. you are overly confident that he's guilty and that they're innocent, and it's pretty clearly because you're indoctrinated into leftist racial mythology

@Mandy Candy also on public property, public is a key word, it's payed for by the public via taxation, so they should have a right to the benefits of the property to a certain extent, again i don't think they were wrong to be playing music, i'm just pointing out that it's a somewhat grey area, it's not completely ridiculous for someone to be bothered by loud noises, it is an actual grey area with some merit when it comes to property rights and liberty infringement. but also again, that's not the key issue here, the music issue isn't the big deal, whether or not the killing is self defense or murder is

@Autonomous Thought and if you read my comments I mentioned no one deserved to die, the cops should've been called. I am aware of the proper protocol.

@Mandy Candy a person's property includes their body

@Mandy Candy a person's property includes their body

@Autonomous Thought incovenient but its life. He couldn't control himself towards the point a kid got killed, all because be didn't like their "thug music". Its childish. the guy commented and made this about him and his situation, which kinda shifted my discussion. My point was and still is, that man felt entitled like he had the power to make those black kids turn their music down, in a public setting. And still felt no remorse after he exaggerated the events and learned there was no gun. He'll have his karma as he serves his time

@Mandy Candy so if he doesn't like thug music, he should leave and have to go to another place inconveniently? nah. there are 2 different issues here. one is him having a problem with the music. he didn't say they were violating his liberty or anything when they were playing the music. he acknowledged they had the right to play the music, and that is evident by the fact that he asked them to turn it down. there isn't anything seriously wrong with him having a problem with the music. the issue is that he fucking killed people, that's the issue here, not whether or not he's in the right asking them to turn down the music. that's the major issue here, whether or not he has a claim to self defense, which is really completely unrelated to the music, they either seriously threatened him or didn't

@Autonomous Thought you said it yourself "on their property ", I guess you must be referring to his example.  Once again they weren't on their property. That null and voids your argument. They were playing loud music inside of their car parked outside a gas station that had a customer inside. they were doing nothing illegal

nah, noise complaints are a real issue when it comes to liberty infringement. it's illegal to interfere with people's environment to a certain extent, and that extent can be reached with noise. we structure our law around the concept of liberty and property, and if you are making it so that someone cannot hear anything but you on their property, or have enough quiet to sleep for example, you are arguably violating their property rights. it's a grey area when it comes to liberty and property infringement. i'm not saying the killer is right, in this case i think he's in the wrong, but don't act like there isn't any merit to noise complaints

Milton Waddams I wouldn’t mind Dutch hardcore though. And you can do whatever you want ‘till 22:00.

@cal c So now you have extra rules, what else do you have? In most civilized countries disturbance/noise pollution laws apply at all hours in all locations.

@Mandy Candy No it's not life and no I don't have to tolerate it. I've dealt with it through legal means and I've won.

Also, that is not how property works. A car is not the same as a house. This is why a car can be towed for a parking violation. Your property or not, does not matter.

@Dave Skeet yeah it's like he was ready for an altercation, I guess since he had a gun

Milton Waddams his fiancé was inside buying a bottle of wine that would easily take 5 minutes

@Bill Lumbergh because that and sitting by someone playing music  at the gas station are the same thing

On second thought, I'll built an expensive sound system into my car, park it in front of your house with windows open at 7AM blasting Dutch hardcore for the whole day. If you say anything to me, you're wrong.

@Daisx Flywalker lol yeah I thought he said his ear drums blew out

Think about his ears.  The pain it must have felt.  Come on!

Think about his ears.  The pain it must have felt.  Come on!


If the last thing he's looking for is trouble, he wouldn't have even mentioned the music in the first place. It's a fucking gas station. You run in. You grab what you need. You leave. One of you is bound to leave in the next two minutes. I'm  neurodivergent and extremely noise sensitive. I hate loud music it makes me irrationally angry and extremely anxious, but I would not have said anything to those boys. It's two minutes of discomfort in my life and they're just kids trying to have a good time

I am also neurodivergent and noise sensitive. The music may have irritated me to no end but never would I think of gunning down three kids over it.

@Leel does your adhd also make you abnormally sensitive to the texture of clothes or (consistency of) food

Well said, my adhd causes a lot of overstimulation and makes me feel irritable when music is too loud or too many sensory things are going on in general. Your point about managing it yourself and not losing your temper on people who are clearly not intentionally frustrating you is a valuable one, it takes real willpower sometimes!

@Pepperkill Development Playing music loud makes you a “gangster” I guess… but I’m assuming you’re trolling or just raised to be racist so that’s all I’m gonna say to you lol

They could not playing music so loud either …. Gangsters

If he would of covered his ears with his fingers "lalalalalaallalalalalaalalal" then he would of been a free man walking his dog eating a fairly expensive dinner or pizza w his fiance but instead Mr. Music's too loud is rotting in jail like he deserves

💯👏👏👏
That's exactly what I do!
I won't even park next to someone at a gas station. For what? If there's multiple parking spots available? I don't mind walking a few extra steps. Or if I'm waiting in the car at a stop light or gas station and someone has there music extremely loud? I just roll the window up and go on about my day. Simple life. 👍

Or….pull into a different spot. Not that hard.

@MeefBeef ah i assumed those two words where the same neurodivergent and neurotypical. That was a mistake on my behalf

@mell neurodivergent people are much more sensitive to stimuli than neurotypical people. Probably pointed it out for context and/or to drive the fact home.

@Connor Blake exactly! A sick fantasy. That’s why he got busted when the detective asked if he could have been imagining the “barrel.”

Or how about don't pull up in the spot RIGHT fucking next to them? The one witness even said they decided to park away because they didn't want to deal with the music. Nah, Mikey boy was trying to live out his fantasy. Hope it was worth it, enjoy that cement box.

Exactly! I once left a gas station bc some crazy person had the music loud enough to rattle my teeth lol. I drove down the road to another station!

@mell my point was simply that I get what it's like to be irritated by noise but no amount of irritation would ever justify what he did. I mentioned my neurodivergency because the amount of frustration I feel towards loud noises if completely irrational. So really, all I meant was that nothing he says can justify what he did. If I were to do what he did, even my psychiatrist explaining that I can't tolerate loud noises wouldn't be an excuse. I wasn't trying to say that I'm special,  but I felt that the point was relevant to prove that nothing justifies the means he resorted to

I don't get the point in you mentioning that you are "neurodivergent". Even if loud noise bothers you, I am quite sure you or anyone else besides that drunk belligerent fool of a man, wouldn't have done something as heinous as that, even a majority of people wouldn't have interacted with the group if they were in that man's place.

He could’ve easily ignored the music for like 2 minutes, or however long it would take in the gas station and he would still be fine. He took a life just because. It’s not like you’re gonna be in the car forever.


This woman didn't deserve to ever experience this.  She's such a good woman.

the teenagers too. they were just having fun and that turned out horrible as one of their friends died.... all the victims in this case shouldn't have been involved my heart breaks for them.

@My new channel Maybe in your life, not in mine!

@Truth17John17 almost like he doesn’t exist…

@My new channel The Lord works in mysterious ways....

@Amelia Bee I think you’re a little hard on her. I have no doubt that their relationship was entirely manipulative and that he hid all his bad qualities from her to create the illusion that he is a great guy, so that when he did act out, she’d wear rose-colored glasses until it was impossible for her to not see who he truly was. I honestly believe he took advantage of her kindness and had her build some sort of emotional dependence on him.

@Amelia Bee Wow, crazy how not everyone is just like you Amelia Bee, pretty crazy right??

@Amelia Bee You may be a strong person who would have handled it the correct way, but I think you are being a little hard on Dunn's fiance.  I sense that Rhonda is a deeply insecure, fragile woman who may not have been used to being treated well, someone who might have been abused in the past (I wouldn't be at all surprised if Dunn was also abusive towards her at times....)  Look how terrified she was on the stand and how timid she sounded on the phone when Dunn called her from jail.... Maybe Rhonda wanted to do the right thing when they returned to the hotel, and especially the next morning when they found out that Dunn had killed someone, but she may have been too fearful of angering him.  (I can't imagine the emotional turmoil immediately upon finding out your hot-head idiot fiance just killed a teenager.)  After all, look what happens when he gets pissed off, and Dunn had a reputation as a hothead before all this happened.  I also think Dunn knew Rhonda would want to do the right thing -- he obviously knew she was angry and upset because he kept trying to reassure her on the way home...."I love you.... You know I love you...."  In other words, "Please do not call the police on me!"  In the end, Rhonda bravely told the truth on the stand to his detriment, and that was not an easy thing for her to do.

The best thing that came out of this situation is that sweet, loving, honest woman may have saved her own life as well as far as giving an honest testimony which likely resulted in them spliting up which is best b/c he displayed a quick flip of the switch with no control over his rage and his first form of defense is just to fuckin shoot so what if she pissed him off enough which clearly doesn’t take much it’s likely she would end up on the other side of that barrel where Jordan Davis once was all b/c he pissed the dude off! Unfortunately there is no positive to this other than so many lessons being learned BUT if one thinghaf to come out of this. Jordan Davis likely saved Rhonda’s (the fiancée) life as well by him showing his true colors to someone he knows nothing about soooo imagine if his fiancée pissed him off the least little bit so Davis’ is also a hero in this situation even know that doesn’t discount the pain/grief of what the family/friends are feeling! Love & Prayers to everyone involved in this situation including the fiancée of this monster!

I completely disagree. She knew EXACTLY who he was, and was happy to aid and abet him before he got caught. He even left her alone for several hours after they got home, and yet she still didn't call the police.

Also, she was legally obligated to testify, they weren't married, so spousal privilege doesn't apply. Same applies to the interrogation. You don't get brownie points for doing the bare minimum of basic human decency, especially if it's done only after you've exhausted every other option.


"I was the victor and the victim." By which he meant: "I'm a racist, trigger-happy child murderer, and would've had more victims if the driver hadn't successfully gotten away from me, but also simultaneously believe I was attacked by the unarmed teenagers because they played loud [derogatory stereotype] music."<br>Jordan, you deserved so much better, and I'm so sorry your life was taken that soon by such a horrible person. And to the driver, Tommy, you're a hero for being able to save the lives of everyone else in the car. To Rhonda, thank you for having a heart and for not letting that sad excuse of a man get away with murder

"I was the victor and the victim." By which he meant: "I'm a racist, trigger-happy child murderer, and would've had more victims if the driver hadn't successfully gotten away from me, but also simultaneously believe I was attacked by the unarmed teenagers because they played loud [derogatory stereotype] music."
Jordan, you deserved so much better, and I'm so sorry your life was taken that soon by such a horrible person. And to the driver, Tommy, you're a hero for being able to save the lives of everyone else in the car. To Rhonda, thank you for having a heart and for not letting that sad excuse of a man get away with murder

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@Jefferson Ott If he were my family, I wouldn't have invited him in the first place. So you're probably right about the reception lol

Best comment!  For real... dead on. Driver is a hero, rhonda is cool, and cute(why was she with this psycho?)  and dunn is just the absolute worst.

I have a feelimg he left the receptikn eatly cause his family didnt really want him there.

the only thing missing is the half-dozen N-words peppering his inner monologue


the first thing that makes him guilty is not calling the police HIMSELF. I think it just flows with logic that if you feel the need to fire your weapon in self defense, you should call the police. A. to explain what happened and take responsibility for your actions PROactively. and B. To let the police know about the people you were defending against.

Exactly....no excuse for leaving and not calling the police at all. Its obvious he knew he was wrong.


Killing someone and then say “I didn’t know that I was being charged with murder” 47:59 , I don’t know how to think about this, the audacity and entitlement he got are out of this world.

@Mari G. Yes, and that was horrible. I don't know whether he is so ignorant or in full denial. The whole situation is just unbelievable to me.

He probably still thought the kid was a thug just because he was black and thought you don't go to jail If you kill a black person. He clearly saw no value in those lives.


He appears so smug. He was not in danger. He could have driven away, he could have gone into the store…he was looking for a fight and murdered a teenager


What really struck me was 23:48 when the Black detective starts speaking, Michael waits a second or two and then turns his attention to him. He's visibly annoyed and doesn't want to listen or interact with him. This guy is a real piece of sh*t.

He also displays the most nervous body language when the black cop Is talking to him and seems to "shrink" into the wall the longer the conversation goes...his behavior was telling

Man real s—t! He did that the whole time talking to him! You can tell he didn’t respect him


thank god for the fiancé's honest testimony. it was obviously breaking her heart to testify against the love of her life, but she was honest regardless and helped to see justice served for that young man who wrongfully lost his life to senseless violence.

@chellefell 13 thank you for that insight, it makes more sense. Maybe this is how poor Rhonda finally got out of that situation with him by being honest and getting his ass packed away for good.

@chellefell 13 Yikes! Another red flag. Yeah, definitely sounds like a really unpleasant person all around and I commend the fiancé all the more for speaking the truth despite the fact that he probably did scare her. Hey, thanks for following up on this convo with this new information! Really puts things in perspective.

@Fancy Pants and i found out also, that his sons wedding was the first time that he had seen or talked to his son for 5 years. i couldnt find the source of the falling out though.... i tried, lol :)

@Fancy Pants so i did some research after i typed that to you... and yep. he was abusive to his previous wives, and very controlling

@chellefell 13 you know what, now that you say that, i think that’s entirely plausible. he definitely gives off a “bully” energy.

might even be a little bit of both!

i was sensing more of a fear of telling the truth... maybe its just me. i could see him threatening her.


It's very annoying and interesting how this man destroyed his whole life over something so unnecessarily petty

Edit,: "But wut about the guy he killed" "HiS liFe WhO cArEs" I mean. The video is analysis of the suspect. And im curious. 🤷

Yeah. That sucks. But I mainly watch  JCS to see criminal behavior and psychology.

It's very annoying and interesting how this man destroyed his whole life over something so unnecessarily petty

Edit,: "But wut about the guy he killed" "HiS liFe WhO cArEs" I mean. The video is analysis of the suspect. And im curious. 🤷

Yeah. That sucks. But I *mainly* watch  JCS to see criminal behavior and psychology.

@Geg Og im glad your opinion doesnt mean much when it comes to policy decisions. Also you should look up the survival rates for gunshots vs stab wounds, it might surprise you

That's what happens when you live a racist life

@József Mozer that's why no civilian should have a gun, even regular people can go through rough times, arguments, mental issues , and end up impulsively killing others, guns make it so much easier to kill some one , all you need is move a finger

@József Mozer Especially if you’re a bad guy like him - see previous comments. The teens had no criminal records. He’s a bad tempered liar  - also stupid. Even I know not to talk to police without a lawyer.

That's why you don't drink when you have a gun on you...

@Frog Glen Why "interesting?" They never said that.

@squeaka67

You think the death of a black teen is interesting? 🤔

his life?  who cares about him.  how about the others?

Not only his life. That man took a innocent life and traumatized tree other people!


theres absolutely no excuse for what he did, and the fact he thinks hes the victim is disgusting.

And the fact that he claimed THEY were violent when he was the one shooting at them simply for the loud music.. it’s so sickening, makes my heart drop. Rest In Peace to that young man :(


This is my first time hearing of this case and I love how JCS puts it all together.  I am so sorry for the family of Jordan and for his life being cut short by an asshat with an ego problem as well as probable racist tendencies.  I can't believe the story Michael tries to pass on as what went down and how entitled he must feel he is.  It is awesome to see someone like him put in his place!  Rhonda is a hero in this case for standing up for the truth even though it breaks her heart and led to her fiancés rightful life in jail.  Michael doesn't deserve a life outside.

Probable?

He had CLEAR racist tendencies!


Man every time I watch these videos I am just so impressed with the psychological skill of the interrogators.


With content as good as this I wanna know the man behind it all ! If this is edited , narrated , researched , and written all by the same guy this man is talented beyond comprehension and if it’s a team it’s equally as fucking amazing . We love you JCS, and keep up the unbelievably well done content.

The narrator is just a voice actor, he has a channel under kizzume. He's a pretty interesting guy, I don't know about the rest of the te though.


The heartbreak the of Rhonda feeling as if it is her fault because she was the one that said to pull into the gas station. Rest In Peace to the innocent life that was lost way too soon.


This guy couldn't even to pretend any kind of remorse or sadness when the cops tell him there wasn't a gun in the car. He couldn't even pretend surprise. Nobody with half a brain can watch that and think that he ever believed himself to be in danger. He kept saying he was in fear for his life over and over again like it was a magic phrase to get him out of trouble. I'm really glad the cops and the jury were having none of it. Nothing can make up for the senseless murder of a child (or the traumatizing of three others) but sending this murderer to prison for the rest of his life with no chance of parole is the least a decent society can do for them.

Speaking of, that black cop was incredibly entertaining. He had such incisive comments to bring Dunn's nonsene to a screeching halt while calling him on his bullshit. He lets the other cops ease Dunn into it but when the pressure's on he just makes it so clear that he knows EXACTLY what this asshole's game is and that he's not interested in playing.


Kudos to Rhonda, she kept it honest, and didn't lie whatsoever, I believe she sealed the deal in his conviction.


I feel so sorry for those boys having to experience such malice at the hands of his man


You have a right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you in a court of law...... I don't know why people disregard this right every single time.


You are a good person Rhonda. Never doubt that.


2 hours into the interrogation after giving them his bullshit (woe is me, heroic act of vigilance) story "umm...do I need to get a lawyer?"
Good lord its should be illegal itself to be that stupid.

*2 hours into the interrogation after giving them his bullshit (woe is me, heroic act of vigilance) story* "umm...do I need to get a lawyer?"
Good lord its should be illegal itself to be that stupid.


I feel bad for Rhonda, most women lie for they men. She TOLD THE TRUTH. Thank you lady.

not sure if your profile pic is you but that eyeliner is iconic


If you're gonna find yourself an honest partner with a heart of gold, you'd better make sure to be an honest person yourself.


It's the monotone level of voice he speaks in to defend himself to the investigators. I feel like he knows he fucked up but dosent know how to get out of the situation. The investigators speak with intention and meaning behind what they say. Anybody could see how guilty this guy is


Threw his life away because he couldn’t mind his business for 5 minutes


Guilty suspects are far more likely to waive their rights and talk to the police than innocent ones -- and this is a perfect example of why. Dunn knows this isn't a straightforward case of self-defense. He has to not only come up with an explanation to satisfy investigators, but to also explain away the evidence against him.

Thank god it works out like that. Not all of the time, but you really gotta be smart or have connections to get away with stuff like this.


When his lawyer asks him about his dog and he tears up I laughed out loud. That asshole sure shed no tears when he found out he killed a kid and that he had no weapon.


42:41 The hell?! He sys he felt threatened and feared for his life because of the boy going out of the car and going towards him. But then the police interrogator askes why he shot the doors if it's not the doors that allegedly may have endangered his life. And this man says it's because at some point the boy went back in... Wasn't his whole point that he felt threatened because the boy was outside?! Then why he is not shooting in that moment but when there is no one comming towards him?! 😤 Obviously he can't keep tracks of his lies.


If he was the “victim” he would’ve called the police immediately after it happened


The lighting and camera angles in the court room footage are impeccable.


so much respect for the lady. she told truth, altho could lie to protect him. Bless her heart ❤

@TIFFA RAFFI yes respect her I do agree on that! However,  different ppl use their judgement differently.  Other may take the risk , and other really knows the consequences  ( using their brain the way it's supposed to be not just the heart)...
For exemple, as much as I love my girlfriend. If she commit a murder for exemple... I'm not supporting that. I will tell the truth. Because such a bug crime is tolerance Zero.  And she has morals unlike other ppl...
1. She has morals
2. Ooooooh yessss wait until they find out you lied... big consequences  coming.
3. It's just the right thing to do.
I'm not supporting a murderer whether it's my girlfriend or son...
We all have a choice in life. Hoping that each and everyone me the right choice.
Not to mention that, if his fiancé is able to kill a human being,  she might be next . It shows her how that man is...killing someone over a loud music. Imagine if he think that she's cheating on him or wanna leave him. He would do the exact very same thing.
I live in Quebec /Canada. I'm so scared when I go visit the US. Impulsive ppl out there. Ready to shoot. Ppl born and raised with guns, not for me.

@John M i don't think that, i mean a lot of people know that lying is a crime but a lot of people choose to do that for people they love. ofc they get sentenced but when you love someone you will do things for love. even risk to lie. so respect to her.

She knows soooo well <br>That lying to professional would get her in trouble as well. One trouble is enough already. She's scared to go to jail by lying. One option: to tell the truth. Court can be scary. Look how she's shaking and speaking sooo slowly. It's intimidating to face that in court. Truth set ppl free

She knows soooo well
That lying to professional would get her in trouble as well. One trouble is enough already. She's scared to go to jail by lying. One option: to tell the truth. Court can be scary. Look how she's shaking and speaking sooo slowly. It's intimidating to face that in court. Truth set ppl free


This bloke reminds me of the egotistical customers/clients you get in customer service. They want to take control, think they're always right..


At 52:16 the defence makes a gesture to the defendant to start getting emotional, and thats exactly what Michael does and starts crying, or at least pretends to cry.


People need to learn from this and keep their anger under control


What an absolute clown, takes the life of an innocent black kid because he was on a power trip and didn’t like them defying his authority turning their music back up after he told them to turn it down.. then tries to get his wife to agree with him over a phone call because he’s insecure and wants justification for his actions. Seeing something you thought was a gun doesn’t make you a victim, you have to absolutely be sure of what you saw, because when you assume wrong and kill innocent people there is consequences. Rest In Peace to that young man , blasting loud music is freedom of expression


The loud music in a gas station is antagonizing along with a arrogant driver can make anyone go off at times . Answer don't carry a gun it will bring out the Evil that will permanently damage you or others .


So sorry about that expensive Bed & Breakfast you missed ...<br>said no one ever.

So sorry about that expensive Bed & Breakfast you missed ...
said no one ever.


The thing is I don’t think Rhonda should feel blame not just because she wouldn’t have known and it’s not her fault, but with a person like this in a big city, he would have done it eventually later on.


I have NEVER heard an actual victim say “You know what, I’m the victim here!”


Cops are trained to operate from the presumption of guilt and impunity is granted if they for shooting an unarmed person in the back running if they believe at that point they were in fear for their life. Doesn't matter if there was a gun in the vehicle if he was operating under the belief there was one. If they supposedly threatened his life and he believed them to be inflicting bodily harm, injury, and or death lethal force would of been authorized at that point...guy musta had a piss poor lawyer. 🤷♂


Was there a stick? Was there a broom handle? Was there a bat? Was there mop? Was there an extension pole? Was there a branch? Was the a ski pole? Let me ask you this, was there anything long in the vehicle and did you double check the area?

Wrapping paper from last Christmas is most definitely what it was.


VERY interesting once again JCS. Thank you. Great site this.


What I find most baffling about this whole story, and many others like this, is how many people have guns just casually with them in their cars or whatever. Why did he have it in the first place? Basically everybody has a gun. It's just unbelievable. Why the guns?

We are allowed to.. it's in the constitution ya know? Lots of people have guns and lots of them do not. America is a big place..

You're pretty much the first person to ask that. Which speaks volumes. That deadly force is so easily employed by so many is horrifying.


50:42 - 50:43 "I tought I was going to be killed. And I was like - where all this hostility comes from..." 👀 No, nobody who believes they're about to be killed any moment is asking themselves this! You react - freez from fear/shock, try to escape/save yourself or defend yourself/attack trying to prevent someone from hurting you! You don't just sit there analyzing what are the things that provoke the worst in human nature 😑 What a bullsh*t!

If he tought they are so dangerous and were about to kill him, why after he "defended" himself he didn't call immediatly the police - to check if anyone is harmed and to make sure the guys won't go after him

51:46 This line with this intonation was like taken from a low rated movie. And why did he empahsize at "son of a b*tch" instead of "You're not gonna kill me" /I'll not let you kill me? For me it shows which part was true and which was made out. If he tough these are dangerous grown men, why he even went to tell them to turn down the music?! What was the urgency since it would take only minutes to drift parts anyway?! I believe he knew these are young teens but his ego was hurt. His unexisting autority was not taken seriously, he kept being the invisible person who nobody bothers to even notice let alone to kiss his *ss. On top of that he was not just being ignored but also called a "b*tch" (which he proves he is) so he decided to show how "powerful" he is and as a real man he shooted his gun against unarmed teens 😒


bru fr the beginning caught me off guard. i rlly thought he was gone be the victim. but the only victims here were the people he shot at and mike’s car seat for having to endure him sitting on it😆🤢


Trying to play the calm, remorseful, victim of circumstance, but can't help but get those lines about his gunmanship and 'military training' from a friend. A couple rum and cokes and this guy definitely becomes unhinged.


The main takeaway I get from this channel is to not talk to the cops


His entire alibi destroyed by one word: "no"


Aside from that you should never do what this SOB did; the lesson is also: NEVER TALK TO DETECTIVES WITHOUT A LAWYER! These guys thinking they can just improvise.... stupid


i love how she spoke against her own fiance.. justice enough :P

She probably feels awful because it was her idea to stop to get a bottle of whine.


Ask a defense attourney "Was there ever a situation where you thought "Thank god my defendent speak to the police without me present"" and the laugh will tell you how delusional mister dunn was for this ;D


this guy flushed his life down the toilet over loud music. That's definetly a special kind of stupid 🙄


America!!!
Now, imagine if every other person on the street didn’t have a gun.

A slight misunderstanding or a confrontation wouldn’t end in death. There’s no ‘I had to shoot him because I feared for my life’


“Do I need to get a lawyer? It sounds like I’m in deep shit...” SIR YOU MURDERED A TEENAGER.


im gonna be a sociophsycological expert at the end of my lockdown after watching all these interrogation videos


Mike has the same anger issues as Michael Douglas' character in the film Falling Down. That, or he thinks he's some sort of Dirty Harry. There's something seriously wrong with this guy & Rhonda did herself a big favour!


2 minutes into the video and I'm like, this Dunn guy is spending the rest of his life in prison. And that is where he belongs.


Crazy, murdering someone and throwing away your entire life (on top of ruining several others) over “thug music” that was too loud.


Everyone of your vids gets 10’s of millions of views. That’s got to worth some extra cash man! We want more!!


big hugs to Rhonda I hope she's doing ok


His response at 51:20 had me rolling on the floor goddamn this guy hatches up little graves for horseshit


This seems unusually aesthetic and cinematic? And one of the attorneys sounds like Kevin Costner.


This guy reminds me of Onision. The way he talks, the words he uses. Scary.


Life so stress free when you don’t kill anyone


And to think he was inside of a transportation machine at the time of fearing for his life.


"I shot at the door"

"What was the purpose of that?"

"Save my life?"

"From the door?"

why are detectives so funny sometimes?? TT . TT
like i dont wanna laugh but how could i not??


The mystery that keeps on bugging me in all of this is ‘ what did he get on the pizza? ‘.

The mystery that keeps on bugging me in all of this is what song(s) was playing?


This should be shown to everyone that is studying to b a cop


The camera quality of the courtroom scenes look legit.


THE WAY THE DETECTIVE IS JUST STARING AT HIM DUMBFOUNDED PLSSS literally the most horrible liar ive ever seen


All that non training sure came in handy against these…

kids. Sounds about right. Glad John Wayne’s under the jail.


obviously the action was racially motivated, but, even if it wasn't, why shoot some random kids over some music? they have their rights.


"Do I need to get a lawyer ?..."
😆😂🤣   This guy's funny as fuck.
Not funny that a 17 y.o. kid is dead though, all because this lard-ass has:
(i) a bad temper
(ii) no tolerance
(iii) a sense of entitlement
(iv) a piece in the glove-box


Cop: You have clearly murdered someone. Want a lawyer?<br>Murderer: nah I’m straight fam, let’s sit and talk for several hours.

Cop: You have clearly murdered someone. Want a lawyer?
Murderer: nah I’m straight fam, let’s sit and talk for several hours.


This reminds me of an episode of South Park. The one where the Hicks want to shoot endangered animals. Or hunt outside of season. So they just yell "Shit! It's coming at us!!" and then shoot flamethrowers and rocket launchers at baby deers and penguins.


Life is hard and I'm not perfect, but at least I can wake up everyday and think, "I haven't murdered unarmed people today".


He was drunk or buzzed, he killed them,cause he was mad! Ya he's a murder.


One day I'll find me a Rhonda, that lady kept it honest no matter what


I saw a large pile of single shot shotguns underneath a tree but as I got closer I realised it was actually a pile of sticks


Exactly the ego we don't want packing heat. Power tripping scaredy cats with itchy fingers


Too much Clint Eastwood, John Wayne and war movies blurred reality for this guy. The American nightmare.


It breaks my brain when I try to understand what type of person would see themselves as a "victor" while making a prepaid phone call from the pokey.. Ahh yes, enjoy the spoils of victory from your new posh bachelor pad (aka a dirty, stinking jail cell), you dummy.. You've certainly earned them, lmao..

ikr ?   The 'victor', because he shot up a car and killed an unarmed kid in cold blood.


How are you going to get mad over somebody Elsa playing loud music just move the car she wasn't going to be in the gas station forever maybe 10 minutes just deal with it life is about compromising with other people everything can't be the way you want to be all the time


I genuinely was watching a true crime drama on Netflix when I saw this notification come up, switched over so quick. This content is far superior to anything else out there.


So basically he killed a teenager because he didn't mind his own business!?! He couldn't get his gas & move on? So we got "Karl's" out here now?


Man, i kid you not, if it was me in that situation i would rather happen everything else except for me to be facing a murder charge


"Kill him!"
"Excuse me, are you talking about me?"
🤣


2:20 he really sounds like every cop after shooting another unarmed black man 😪 “BUt I wAS thE ViCtiM”


Who would’ve thought Shoenice was a killer?


Tommy turned the music down out of respect to an elder and that’s rare…if Michael had not had too much etoh….two sets of people out having fun times with family and friends…I just don’t get it. In the blink of an eye a young person dead and a middle aged professional man ended his life as he knew it. I hate loud loud rap music with that base that you can feel in your house. I want to shoot the speakers. If I’m in my car I just move along or turn up my country music. My dogs would really miss me if I didn’t make it home so…✌✌🤷🏼♀


Every lawyer watching this video is screaming at the defendant, 'Shut the f**k up!!!!'


A 17 year old kid, for god sakes. He had his whole life ahead of him. And he lost his life over a petty fucking argument??

@Wolfy100 ...sure. But I guess what I meant was, no pistol, no confrontation and there would have been no so called argument.  Common sense is to not park next to a car playing loud music. However, this joker had a gun and was buzzing from his rums and cokes which allowed him to challenge these kids. Wrong move on every level. Again, no gun, no "argument ". He would have went on his way.

@Gary morris I agree he was a trigger happy narcissist, but there was definitely an argument as stated by the victims and the witnesses, not that that in any way justifies murder

There was no argument. Just a trigger happy narcissist.


So we didn’t pick up on the fact he said... If I had told herself n the way to the hotel Intold her several times ... the If should have been pointed out by the D.A


"Kids listening to music?"
BANG BANG BANG
"Alright get in! We can't miss that fairly expensive breakfast!"

"Kids listening to music?"
*BANG BANG BANG*
"Alright get in! We can't miss that fairly expensive breakfast!"


Its crazy how easy this could’ve been de escalates sad case man fr


His fiance talks normal in the interrogation but tried talking all innocent on the stand.


Anger is a stupid emotion the human brain makes.


Brevard county is pronounced Brie-Vard for future reference. (Florida is a popular state for these sorts of things lol)


12:42-13:02 Her voice went so quick to normal... Am I reading
Ntoo much into it? Anyway, I have more than 40 mins more to watch but it is so sad... Most of the teens love laud music. No one deserves to die because of it! I remember another case where a man shot and killed his neighboor over laud music 😔

The telephone conversation at the beginning sounded sow fake to me. It was like:"I know the call is recorded so I will tell what I want them to think that really happened"


Guess you never know when someone is gonna snap :/ hope im never the reason, and the target.


He tried to use the "I feared for my life" defense which is commonly used against Black people no matter the circumstance even if that Black person is fleeing.

@Iron Will HAHAHAHAHA I am Mizrahim but I guess you never even heard of the mizrahim and just spout every nonsense that the msm gives to you. The fact is that the status of the weapon would not be applicable to this case due to the wisconsin law on self defense, the trial would go the same way, no matter what his race <br>is. Second of all, he also already lived in kenosha since his father, close friends and grand mother lives there, he  even worked there. Rittenhouse was there to help and if you watched the trial you could see that his actions actually helped the people who lived in Kenosha, But anyways thank you for the conversation.

@Iron Will HAHAHAHAHA I am Mizrahim but I guess you never even heard of the mizrahim and just spout every nonsense that the msm gives to you. The fact is that the status of the weapon would not be applicable to this case due to the wisconsin law on self defense, the trial would go the same way, no matter what his race
is. Second of all, he also already lived in kenosha since his father, close friends and grand mother lives there, he  even worked there. Rittenhouse was there to help and if you watched the trial you could see that his actions actually helped the people who lived in Kenosha, But anyways thank you for the conversation.

@Iron Will I already told you the facts of the case anyways and the trial wasn't anything about race it is about self-defense.

@Iron Will Yes he would, no matter what his race is.

@Lucius Aurelian Would Kyle Rittenhouse be receiving the same treatment if he were Black? Give me your honest answer. Without dancing around it

@Iron Will its not claims it is fact that the more small the government the more free people would become. I never discriminate anyone as far as Im concerned its just your baseless assumption since every single person who disagrees with you are automatically "racist" or "white supremacist" in the end anyways.

@Lucius Aurelian Good for you, I'm sure you rationalize those claims after performing or participating in anti Black racism. Because despite what you claim to believe in; it won't trump your ideology.

@Lucius Aurelian trust me I've listened to them. And believe me when I say that they're speaking for your people not mine.

@Iron Will I am a Zionist if you don't know but hmmm... again its just so funny you calling both of them racoons it tells perfectly that you actually never listen to their ideas.

@Lucius Aurelian Dems and Reps. Are both wings of the same bird. And the fact that you mentioned those two 🦝's tells me exactly what I thought of someone like you. I'm surprised you didn't also mention Larry Elder. You listen to a lot of Richard Spencer, & Jared Taylor I bet.

@Iron Will Definetly not a democrat someone like Thomas Sowell and Candace Owens

@Lucius Aurelian What's the definition of American nationalism?

@Lucius Aurelian Hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity! There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, and Asian Hispanics.

@Lucius Aurelian just because he's Latin doesn't mean he's not a self hating minority. He's never referred to himself as Cuban anyway. And I don't believe he's the actual leader.

@Iron Will yeah, no this is what I meant, again he has no intent to hurt anybody there dude and what is it with claiming any organization such as the proud boys who is led by a hispanic as white supremacist ?? And again Kyle Rittenhouse was not seen or  collaborating with anybody to do harm. Look dude his father lived in kenosha, his grandma too, and many of his close friends lived in Kenosha, he also works part time there, His intent was clear, to protect his community.

@Lucius Aurelian I know it was self defense. I don't have a problem with anyone defending themselves. I also know the police couldn't locate him for a month. I know he was seen with the proud boys (white supremacists organization). I know he went to Kenosha with the intent to harm Black People. I'm not seeing your point

@Iron Will It would be ironic if he was an african american, imagine the headlines would be like BLM tries to attack black people who disagrees with them, not only that he was the one who is trying to help his community in Kenosha... It is quite clear to me that you never knew the facts of the Rittenhouse case dude.

@Iron Will Kyle Rittenhouse would get the same verdict no matter what his race is.

@Iron Will  Sorry, I'm Indian.   and, I love America

@Elliot Nelson <br>Don't mind me, I just want to have a pop up if your ever gather the guys to answer that question.

@Elliot Nelson
Don't mind me, I just want to have a pop up if your ever gather the guys to answer that question.

@Elliot Nelson "I'm not racist you're racist for calling out racism!" Foh answer this as honestly as you can: Would Kyle Rittenhouse get treated like he's being treated if he were Black! Answer that question and be honest.


Wow. What a great loyal wife. If you can't trust your other half to be at the plate for ya. What's the point. What a kick in the balls for this defendant. He a killer tho but dam. She was no mrs. Hill here.


If the jury got to see his interrogation tape, why would his lawyer allow him to add all that extra dialogue? Him & his lawyer would’ve practiced all these questions.. I’m glad he shot himself in the foot during the trial but it just doesn’t make sense.


How come this trial footage looks like a movie?


How entitled he is... First of all who the f is he to tell others how loud they should listen to music IN A PUBLIC SPACE?

Yep. Let kids be kids, we've all been there, give them space, just ignore the noise or park somewhere else, live and let live, ffs.  <br>Well he's never getting out, but if only it was 90 years for attempted murder, but without the youngster dying.

Yep. Let kids be kids, we've all been there, give them space, just ignore the noise or park somewhere else, live and let live, ffs.
Well he's never getting out, but if only it was 90 years for attempted murder, but without the youngster dying.


Sad day indeed. That said, wonder if they'll still blast music in parking lots.


Rhonda is a real good woman and didnt deserve a monster like this. I'm glad she is free!


GUILty, what a busybody dangerous person


This guy looks and sounds like a politician...


i hope all the other inmates are playing "thug music"  loud af in there everyday for the rest of his life

Considering that he wrote racist letters out of jail and seem to have gotten in an Isolation cell this might even have happened.

Edit: I forgot that they are probably aren't allowed to listen to music :/


Is anyone going to pin The blame on Charlie?


Rhonda seems like a nice woman. She was shaking so hard. I feel bad she had to go through all this as well as the people killed. Its sad.


another future research scientist bites the dust


People call me a pushover, maybe even a bitch because when somebody is doing something around me like playing loud music that I don't like for the three seconds I'm around them, I don't say anything. But hey, guess what; I'm not the one being commented on for doing something stupid. 🤷 🤣


After doing what he did his last name was changed to Dumb.


Why would someone shoot at 3 teens for loud music dude.


I love how the homeboy on the witness stand is chewing gum- real classy!


Do not speak without council. Not even in a room by yourself


The lesson I'm getting out of this is
be kind to your fellow man for you do not know if he has a 45 in the glove compartment.
Also, loud music kills.


57:10
Hol' up, a 90 year sentence? Jesus.


They so lucked out, if ole boy had been a better shot or less drunk they would all be dead. Yeah, good advice I follow myself, don't mouth off to people in FL or TX, even their babies are armed.


This guy is the only “thug” i see wouldn’t be surprised if their color also motivated him to see some kids judging their music cause it was probably black people music


Third "Michael" so far... (Watch out Michael "Mike" Vanderman, you might see a...stick at any minute)


51:45 and the Golden Raspberry goes to.........


Funny how he says he closes his window and can’t hear but then says the kid was cursing him out. Weird how he was able to “hear” that

Right he literally said when his window was up and he could hear the music all he could hear was the loud bass 💀💀 (in interview 1)

He heard what he wanted to hear to justify his actions, in his mind.


“I only shot at them 4 times, and then 4 more times as they were fleeing, that’s all I did. I don’t know how he died”

Give him a break, he was trying to save his life from a door.

@UnknownGamer40464 that’s cool but it was still unnecessary for him to add as he recounted what happened that day

@walking olga racking a slide takes like one second at most

@On the Rims Punching can heavily be argued to be a reflex, yet with a gun there's a lot more in play that gives your mind time to say "wait hold up wtf are you doing?" The other fact that he shot after the car was driving away is fucking evil though, and kinda closes the case on it's own imo.

@On the Rims well I think under ideal conditions you would have a clear cut threshold for an assailant where until that line is crossed you display your weapon and warn the would be attacker with authority in an attempt to deter an attack, but once that attacker proceeds with the attack you act decisively while attempting to balance both neutralizing the threat with not going further then necessary. Unfortunately life rarely plays out exactly how we would like it to. God forbid I ever end up in this situation, but if I did the first thing I would do after taking the shot is call the police, frisk the individual for weapons for my own safety and then provided that person is no longer a threat I would do my best to render medical aid whether that means CPR or a makeshift tourniquet. Those who carry for self defense need to always remember that the purpose is indeed SELF DEFENSE. You do everything you can to avoid firing, you only fire as much as is necessary, you NEVER fire out of anger and only out of necessity. The point is to avoid becoming a victim, not to victimize someone else.

As to your comment about target ID your completely correct. Many people, myself included, believe that any firearm that will be used in self defense should have a light on it. Obviously that’s not always applicable  but it’s dark 1/3 of the time and that seems to be when the criminals like to come out to play. Ultimately it comes down to one of the main rules of firearm safety, being “know you’re target and what’s behind it.” You simply CANNOT fire at what you cannot identify, and in this case the guy didn’t just fire at a man who was never a threat, he OPENED UP on a whole car full of teenagers and it’s a miracle that all those boys aren’t dead. There’s an unspoken code of conduct for people who carry firearms for defense and this guy violated every single rule and certainly doesn’t represent the gun community.

@Keith Thom I imagine your more likely to shoot an unidentified target out of fear, rather than not shooting at all. Maybe not..I guess it depends how second nature it is to reach for a weapon.

On a side note, I punched my own mom in the face while the power was out, after she hid and scared me..
 Im not sure if thats the same, but I obviously had no intention of throwing a punch.

@Zombies “yeah man I only shot 8 times, it usually takes 10 shots to kill a guy 🙄”

“I shot 8 times into a car with 4 people I didn’t think anyone would die though this is unfair I’m the victim”

@Keith Thom I agree, it does become a problem when said person is in “danger” yet is able to take the time to aim.

@walking olga well people who train with firearms train to operate them via muscle memory so fear might not necessarily be a factor, I know I could operate a firearm regardless of fear if my life was being threatened (or at least I hope I could) based on repetitive training. However don’t get me wrong, none of these factors apply this was clearly a murder and fear played no role, anger did.

i was so scared but i was still<br>able to load my handgun quick as a flash.

i was so scared but i was still
able to load my handgun quick as a flash.