Do I need to get a lawyer? This sounds like it could be serious. Yea...you killed someone!  Besides being a murderer I don't think this guy could be any more of an idiot. Kudos to Rhonda for doing the right thing.

I don’t know why people don’t immediately get a lawyer… even if I was involved in the most 100% shut and closed self defense case, I’m talking to my lawyer lmao


It’s really telling that when the detective asks him if he shot one-handed or two-handed, he felt the need to demonstrate, and pointed his imaginary gun directly at the black cop, who wasn’t the one to ask him. Every other interrogation I’ve seen where somebody demonstrates a shot they took, they aim at the detective that’s talking to them.

I’m not saying that this definitely means anything, but Michael looked way too ready to aim at the black detective, in my opinion. I’ve watched this video a few times already, and it shocks me every time he does it.

it's likely that the black cop is sat closer so it would appear easier to demonstrate using him as the target.

Not everyone in the replies trying to prove that he wasn’t being racist /this time/ 😵💫

I thought so too! He aimed at him real quick.

Good observation I didn’t think of that. However it’s also quite possible he was trying to re-enact the direction of the scene. But his lack of regard for black people in general, did show subconsciously by pointing the gun towards the black detective.

No, he re-enacts it using the correct angle and direction, you are looking at something a tad to deeply

I thought you were exaggerating until I saw this part. It really is just immediately, no hesitation, right at the black detective

He this is definitely not it just a stupid thought of yours

@R D 29:35
Also he is obviously doing that to demonstrate the motion he used when he fired out of the driver’s seat of his car, not to awkwardly aim at the black cop lol

Joseph Dirty Dan Ducreaux the Assblaster McMasters

I never even noticed that, good eye. We can't know what his intentions were, but it certainly fits in with what we know of him.

Jack, I can’t find the spot that you’re referring to, but it would make absolute sense for him to turn toward his left to reenact his actions. The other car was to his left and so he was shooting to his left. <br>But you seem to be reading much more into it.

Jack, I can’t find the spot that you’re referring to, but it would make absolute sense for him to turn toward his left to reenact his actions. The other car was to his left and so he was shooting to his left.
But you seem to be reading much more into it.

Er, no. He pointed sideways to shoot and that is what he demonstrated.

Is it possible he moves that way because he was in the driver's seat so it's the way he moved to face the door/window?


It is beyond me how guilty people agree to an interview/interrogation without a lawyer present.. Even if I were not guilty I would want a lawyer present! Although, I’m not the least bit angry that these criminals open their mouths and expose themselves for their horrendous crimes

They want to get their side of the story out. They think being cooperative and twisting the narrative will allow themselves to be seen as innocent and in a positive light. They think that refusing to cooperate without a lawyer present will make them appear guilty.

Learned you only got the right for a supevention solicitor when you arrested not during a "talking session"

He thinks that he did the white, I mean, right thing. 😒

I think it's the narcissistic personality. "If i were to get a lawyer, it would look as though I feel I need to protect myself as if I'm guilty. But, if I give my side of the story, I'll appear confident in my innocence and they'll believe me." It's the calculated thought that they're smarter than anyone else in the room.

The actually smart approach is realizing that not one damn thing you say in an interrogation is going to "save" you. The police aren't the people that decide your culpability; the judge and jury do that. As such, you would need to understand that the situation is no longer about whether what you did was "right" or "wrong", but about how your attorney can frame the evidence.

Not that I agree with that. Dumbass narcissistic racist assholes should absolutely spill their guts to the police. It makes the trial easier. But whether you're guilty or not, talking to the police will only make the situation worse.

I think it's the narcissistic personality. "If i were to get a lawyer, it would look as though I feel I need to protect myself as if I'm guilty. But, if I give my side of the story, I'll appear confident in my innocence and they'll believe me." It's the calculated thought that they're smarter than anyone else in the room.

The *actually* smart approach is realizing that not one damn thing you say in an interrogation is going to "save" you. The police aren't the people that decide your culpability; the judge and jury do that. As such, you would need to understand that the situation is no longer about whether what you did was "right" or "wrong", but about how your attorney can frame the evidence.

Not that I agree with that. Dumbass narcissistic racist assholes should absolutely spill their guts to the police. It makes the trial easier. But whether you're guilty or not, talking to the police will only make the situation worse.


He’s clearly confused why the Justice system isn’t just blindly defending him

@Patrick Baklava should have had  Amazon prime 😂

He must not have got his white privilege card in the mail yet.


This happened within minutes of leaving his Son’s wedding. Not an excuse, but he was most likely drunk-drunk and had no business handling a weapon at all. It’s fucking terrible that boy was killed and I’m glad he got locked up. Imagine if he and his wife didn’t give interviews and brought a lawyer? It’s likely this murderer would be walking around.


As soon as she mentioned that he said he hates “that thug music” it was obvious that this was gonna be at least partially racially motivated

@Timmy Vawwter not only are you flying to the defense of two white men who murdered unarmed people, you are also failing to understand that these people (that being this class of white middle aged men who believe that they have this self imposed responsibility to uphold the law) are people who have the assumption that just because they have a gun in their hands, they have the lawful right to start firing. This man killed an innocent boy playing music with his friends, and you think that because he had it turned up loud that he deserved to die?

@Timmy Vawwter You’re over here defending murderers, not just 1 but 2. Impressive. Next time your music is a little too loud I pray you come across someone else who thinks like you.

@Timmy Vawwter bro u can’t be serious. Everyone blasts music. Ur a brick.

In this case, as well as in the Michael Drejka case, it all starts with this class of people who think that they are entitled to break the law.

in the Michael Drejka case, it was the selfish woman who parked illegally (in a handicapped spot), and in this case, the thugs blasting music in close proximity of others trying to enjoy their own lives, but cannot, due to these people who have NO place in civilized society.   And, when others try to defend themselves, or try to ask the miscreants to stop breaking the law (i.e. illegal parking, illegal noise violation), they are the ones who end up in prison.   Society in these here United States of America, has become unbearable over time, due to this unfortunate evolution of society into one where one particular class of people makes life miserable for others


I in NO WAY agree with this dude as far as any actions he took bc I have been that 17 year old loud mouth kid more times than I can count.
But the crazy thing is, I really think this dude is so in love with his own self and the only way of the “right life” is his lifestyle-but he genuinely thinks he is justified in this.!! It’s crazy.
He can’t see any other perspective other than his own.
And not to make it political or create any issues with saying this, but it feels like Mikey here just might be a tad bit racist along with just generally feeling like he is better than everyone else that can’t stay in an upscale 5 star hotel whenever they want.


Imagine being so annoyed with loud music you just start shooting wildly?  WTF? You're gonna be there for 5 or 10 minutes at most. It's a temporary annoyance not worth throwing your life away.

I think you're completely misreading it. The guy had likely been looking for some cause to use the gun since he bought it. Not every gun owner is like that (I'm an owner of multiple guns). But there's definitely a subset that don't just want a gun for sport or as a last ditch effort to defend themselves, but instead <i>really</i> want the opportunity to kill someone with it. He thought he had the perfect opportunity to do it and get away with it, given Florida's stupid Stand Your Ground law.

I think you're completely misreading it. The guy had likely been looking for some cause to use the gun since he bought it. Not every gun owner is like that (I'm an owner of multiple guns). But there's definitely a subset that don't just want a gun for sport or as a last ditch effort to defend themselves, but instead _really_ want the opportunity to kill someone with it. He thought he had the perfect opportunity to do it and get away with it, given Florida's stupid Stand Your Ground law.


This is a lesson to everyone in any situation. In a country where gun ownership is prevalent and anyone could be reaching for a gun at any time with such ease, it pays to be wary of strangers and your interaction with them. Whether you like someone or not, it pays to be respectful and considerate. Witness 7 said he didn't want to deal with the loud music - he was the smartest one as he read a situation as potentially risky and chose to avoid it.

In a land of a gun you may be respectful and shut your loud music down . Not everyone wants to deal your hangars shit . Not everyone will pass away just because you are loud.


Later knowledge about Dunn revealed that he lived for confrontation, especially when drunk. Michael Dunn met that  Michael Dunn finally and destroyed himself. Pathetic.


It's ridiculous to see the measures people go through to lie. I appreciated Rhonda's honesty, I could see how it hurt her to go against her fiance's words but she knew it wasn't just a little white lie, it's serious. It's murder, she knew how stupid it was to escalate a situation that could've been ignored. All of the words that came out of his mouth were so uncaring, inhumane, and overall pathetic. To keep lying, to act to appeal to the jury, and to put lies into a dead person's mouth that obviously can't defend himself.


It's quite amazing the way Mike Dunn continued to push this narrative of him being 'afraid for his life' and 'more scared than he'd ever been in his entire life' throughout the entire investigation in regards to his personal issue with "loud music"...or as his fiancé disclosed, "thug music," because in his mind he really thought the cops or the jury would empathize with him. He didn't show any remorse despite him already being known during these interviews to be the one responsible for one young person's death and others' permanent trauma and loss.


“Strange town in a strange area.” For context, that particular gas station on Bay Meadows is surrounded by golf courses and high income exclusive neighborhoods and luxury apartments. This ain’t Emerson Blvd. My in-laws live just around the corner in a HUGE house in a VERY NICE neighborhood. This dude wasn’t anywhere near Jacksonville’s “hood.” This is an entitled rich boy drunk on alcohol


45:40

“I’ve never been so scared in my life.” He says with a tone of voice sounding like he’s reading off the terms and conditions.


First time I laid eyes on the young people from the victim' s car and I know what that monster meant by " they're violent" . Murder murder bloody murder! I hope the inmates know how to deal with him!

I can not BELIEVE  that monster actually said " live and let live" during his whole act !


I could see, in the courtroom, that Rhonda was devastated. What a terrible state she must have been through because of this horrific being.


This is a great example to propel these wise words. “Never Talk to the Police”


My poor heart breaks for Ms Rhonda. She is such a wonderful human with a big heart. I truly hope she heals from all this and finds peace.

My heart goes out to the victims … the teenagers that survived and the teenager that murdered in cold blood


Rhonda could have easily lied, and changed the whole trial, but she didn't.  That means she places 'Right' above all else, a very rare human trait these days. I'm glad he paid for killing that poor kid. Truth is, his Rum and Cokes had made him into Rambo that day and his bullying people to turn off their music was already a well worn routine for him. That might he met his match, but sadly the Rum had done its job on Dunn and we know the rest. RIP Jordan and props to Tommie for getting them out of what could have been an even worse situation.

So basic human decency is supposed to be rewarded now?
U know it’s illegal to lie on the stand right?
I mean the kid died I doubt he would get off Scot free


I am not an English native speaker and after watching this video many times I translated online „victor“ and this made me think about this case way more negative with respect to Mike. The way of thinking about this issue of being the winner of a fight makes him not stand in a good lighting.

@Altus Show Ahhhh….. makes this even more interesting and makes it more aware for him. I mean he states all happened by accident but there are shining more and more issues through that he was seemingly more aware of what he has done (is doing) . More being an hero in Die Hard Part. X than being within an accident, dealing the wrong way within splitseconds. So thanks for your comment and the clarification regarding the every-day-life usage of his wording ;)

Your completely right. Also we dont often use victor like this, he thought he was being clever, and was very proud of himself.


This case was chilling,That last silent cut to that mugshot gave me cold chills down my spine.


rhonda: i heard your mom is gonna send you a book,,, that’s nice<br>mike: okay but i was the victim of the murder i committed

rhonda: i heard your mom is gonna send you a book,,, that’s nice
mike: okay but i was the victim of the murder i committed


Getting out the danger zone is totally fine. No one can fault you for that. Your number one goal though, in that situation, is to be the first on the horn with the cops...assuming you are innocent lol! The first to call is gonna be seen as the least likely suspect.


Poor choices, the self Centered guy tying the life so so many including the woman he loves. What an amazing woman Rhonda is for standing up for the truth, I pray that she’s moved on from this and found someone better. This guy is so selfish and has no emotions for any other life. Condolences to the family and victims involved.


I understand being aggravated by loud music and maybe even confronting someone but an argument is where I draw the line. But this guy is crazy


Life is so much easier when you don't commit crimes.


Horrible what's happened to the recent videos on the channel, YouTube is so unreasonable. Hope you can make the channel sustainable again <3


I can't believe he thought that everybody would believe him and not the multiple witnesses.


In my opinion, Michael Dunn is definitely a racist thug!  When I heard his phone call to Rhonda from the jail saying he was the victor and also the victim made me beyond repulsed.


Shoutout to Rhonda for being an incredible human being and despite being his significant other, she still told the truth and has morals. Oh, and she isn’t racist like Mr. Dunn here. I bet he loved being questioned by another “thug” like he calls those young boys just being teenagers. Tell me running to 711 or making runs to the store as a teenager while listening to your music and living in the moment wasn’t a part of your daily life?


My heart goes out to the parents of this young Man.  SMH


I just can’t get over the fact that he shot 10 times and killed a kid…over music. They were only at the gas station for minutes and the car with the music was leaving so I don’t see why the appropriate reaction would be to shoot at a car 10 times.


“i shot at the door”
“what was the purpose of that?”
“to safe my life..?”
“from the door?”


He's upset when he talks about his fiancé while on the stand yet shows absolutely no emotion when she's clearly extremely upset and distressed giving her testimony.


Haven’t finished this video yet but:

To say he’s unremorseful  at the news of hearing there was no weapon in the car, in my opinion, is too definite. We don’t know if he was in shock, him processing, or even him wondering if it’s an investigative tactic (or a number of other things I’m not thinking of).

To say he thinks or believes this or that is mucky at this point in the interview.

I hope you've finished the video since you made the comment. Because it becomes very clear he never felt any remorse.


Poor sweet Rhonda. She’s so strong and brave


I had the same kind of young brats pull up next to me when I was filling up at a gas station. I looked over at the car and all 👀 eyeballs were looking at me. Kind of like what are you going to do about it? I smelled trouble with them so I left. <br>      Some would say that I am a coward but I think I'm more of a free coward. In the past I didn't leave and I ended up spending that night in jail and getting five more months in jail and losing at lest $38,000  So yeah I learn to walk away from it you gain nothing if you don't

I had the same kind of young brats pull up next to me when I was filling up at a gas station. I looked over at the car and all 👀 eyeballs were looking at me. Kind of like what are you going to do about it? I smelled trouble with them so I left.
      Some would say that I am a coward but I think I'm more of a free coward. In the past I didn't leave and I ended up spending that night in jail and getting five more months in jail and losing at lest $38,000  So yeah I learn to walk away from it you gain nothing if you don't


Was he 45 when it happened? I thought he was in his 60s. He looks old and miserable


If he was so afraid, why then did he confront them in the first place?

He wanted an excuse to kill a black teenager so he made it happen by provoking. The “thug music” was his excuse to get confrontational.

The gun in the glove compartment and rum and cokes in his system made him "brave". What a stupid man. Surely, he could have just moved to another parking spot.


that woman is so sweet and lovely... its just another injustice she ended up with such a garbage racist


This guy really thought he could just walk in and say he "feared for his life" and walk right out


I know everyone is tired of hearing about race issues, but it's hard to watch this and not think that this guy probably imagined he could get out of this because he was white and because the big scary black men made him "fear for his life".

Edit: I had a different interpretation of Michael getting upset on the stand when asked about his fiancé and his dog. During this point (start around 53:10) he is asked about his fiancé and gives a reply. However, he is more upset when asked if they were living together at the time. Then he regains some composure, but when they begin talking about the dog he gets upset again. The way it goes is he is asked the dog's name. Likely picturing his adorable puppy, Michael smiles quickly, before struggling to get the dog's name out of his mouth. At this point I think he knows he is going away, likely for more than a decade. So when he thinks about living at his house or thinks about his dog, I think he was remembering how much simpler and happier everything was before the incident. I think he also imagined what his life would be like had that incident never happened. Now all of that is gone forever. Likely would make anyone feel sad. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to have a shred of empathy for the boy (Jordan Davis) he killed, the Jordan's family, or Jordan's friends who were likely scarred for life from this incident.


Can we start with the fact that there’s no way in hell I’d ask someone to turn the music down in THEIR car?! If he would’ve minded his business none of that would’ve happened.

especially because it’s not like they’re blasting it in your neighborhood. it’s not like this is something a neighbor was doing to him everyday, making him lose sleep or something. you’re at a gas station. if someone is annoying you at the gas station, leave. no one is forcing you to be there


Astonishing. In the Netherlands we do not carry weapons on the street. When you hear stories like this, how can you maintain that it's a good idea if every crazy person can carry a gun?

@aceman1126 No worries about ranting! I didn't know that about the Bill of Rights! I found your comment interesting and it provides, as you said, an often looked-over viewpoint :)

I think the reason a lot of non-American bring the USA to task on human rights is because of American Exceptionalism. Since the (some parts of the) US government and some of its citizens insist on the exceptioanlism narrative. Also, people love an underdog story and the USA is anything but (though, admittedly, the USA certainly started as an underdog in the beginning). You're right that other countries get a "get out of geonocide" free card, both from its own citizens and/or from the international community. I think my country, Canada,  and my fellow Canadians LOVE to ignore our past atrocities (residential schools, Ukrainian & Japanese internment, the Chinese Head Tax, slavery, fighting/supporting wars of aggression.) And let's not even start with the British & French.

I don't know if America has done more good than bad but I do know that most Americans are good people. I have greatly enjoyed my vacations in the USA; people are always friendly and welcoming. I live close to the NY/Ontario border and go over to shop all the time.

Hope you're well friend!

@nolanone what I was getting at was that we codified our natural right and officially acknowledged that said rights apply to all people and are given by God himself and no man or government is supposed to trample on or violate those rights.

What we call the bill of rights isn't what is commonly thought to be a list of rights granted to subjects by their government like a lot of other countries have, rather it is a list of what the government ISN'T allowed to do.

Sure, in the past we messed up and made mistakes like everyone does, however what makes us unique is the cost we collectively paid and continue to pay to ensure those rights are respected and applied to EVERYONE.

It took a while of course but a lot of people here and globally like to shit on the USA for past wrongs and ignore the unprecedented cost in money and blood it too to try and fix the problem. They also seem to conveniently forget that the entire world has been involved in the slave trade and systemic genocide of unwanted peoples, yet the usa is particularly attacked on this front.

Hell, there's more people in slaved today that in the height of the African slave trading days of early America and rarely do people mention it. I proudly support organizations that currently fight slavery across the globe.

And I agree american exceptionalism is annoying to a degree and a lot of ignorant people screech about it, but the reality is that america as a whole despite its flaws has done VASTLY more good than bad. Never has a single country helped more people, ended more poverty, and ensured global stability than the US.

I dont agree with a lot of what we've done in the past or in the present but all in all we're a shit ton better than any other global superpower and the small countries (especially in europe) that a lot of people seem to love and think can do no wrong could ONLY exist in their current form due to USA policies and aid.

So yeah, I think we still kick ass but we also always have work to do.

Don't mean to rant, just intend to express a viewpoint that is often overlooked these days.

@Patti Peters I see where you're coming from but I wonder if having guns only makes people FEEL safe as opposed to actually increasing safety. Also, I would say that- at least here in Canada, I can't speak for the Netherlands- fewer criminals have guns. Unfortunately, I have been the victim of a violent crime and, in my experience, most attacked with knives. Hope you're having a nice Wednesday! :)

@aceman1126 That's fair enough; the media has a huge effect on how non-Americans view the US. I could definitely use a more diverse media diet for sure. I'm happy for any suggestions you have!

I do take issue with "[y]ou non Americans don't understand that individual freedom and the concept of natural rights are the very foundation upon which our country was built." America, like Canada and the Netherlands, was founded on the IDEALS of freedom and natural rights but today those ideals are rarely applied. Plenty of countries fought revolutions against their colonial masters and/or absolute monarchies so it isn't unique to the USA. American Exceptionalism (the belief that most Americans hold that the USA is fundamentally different from any other country in the world) is EXHAUSTING. Also the US was founded on natural rights? For who? White people? At the end of the American Revolution, Black folx were still enslaved,  the US government was determined push further west even if it meant displacing and murdering Indigenous people, and women coudn't vote.. Now, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that Canada and the Netherlands are innocent. What Canada did to our Indigenous people is, in my opinion, way worse than what the US did. Not to mention that the Netherlands helped set up the Apartheid system in South Africa. It's okay that you country has flaws, all do.

I hope you're doing well and are looking forward to a relaxing weekend! :) Stay safe out there!

But do your criminals carry guns? We carry to protect ourselves from real criminals. Once they can take away guns from criminals, I will gladly give up mine.<br>However, this guy was not under threat. What he did was over react and he committed murder.

But do your criminals carry guns? We carry to protect ourselves from real criminals. Once they can take away guns from criminals, I will gladly give up mine.
However, this guy was not under threat. What he did was over react and he committed murder.

The media loves to focus on terrible cases like this one in the video, but they rarely mention the overwhelmingly more common LEGITIMATE gun uses.
You non Americans don't understand that individual freedom and the concept of natural rights are the very foundation upon which our country was built.

Forget the media for a minute and consider this, in the usa there are approximately 30 thousand "gun deaths" annually. Half of those are suicide. The majority of the other half are police/gang related. Very few shootings fall into the categories the media LOVES to promote.

Conversely, firearms are used DEFENSIVELY at a minimum of 500 thousand times annually. Some stats put defensive gun uses at about 1.5 million annually.

The fact is, like it or not, privately held arms in the usa save FAR more innocent  lives than they take.

All that having been said, the guy in this video was a shitbag and was definitely in the wrong. I'm glad he's rotting in jail.

It’s wild right? I’m Canadian and live within 100 km of the US border and the difference in “gun culture” is astonishing when you consider how geographically close Canada and the US are. I will never understand why Americans are (in some cases LITERALLY) willing to die on the “gun rights” hill. A lot of Americans don’t understand that their obsession with firearms is the exception and not the rule.


His complete lack of concern or remorse for Jordan losing his life really seals the deal guilt-wise.


29:25 I like how the cop says "I can't shoot people if in my mind they have a weapon", if only that was an universal truth.


police:  you’re being charged with murder and attempted murder

michael: …that sucks

DECEPTION 100

police:  you’re being charged with murder and attempted murder

michael: …that sucks

*DECEPTION 100*


That poor kid. Just 17...when i was 17, my friends and i would pile into the jeep for a .5mile trip to the McDonald's stoned af ...any of us coulve just been caught in that EXACT position. Drunken, murder fueled by haye and racism....its just so so sad :(


the explanation of how the cops are interviewing him to make him "not get a lawyer" is a bit disturbing, everyone should get a lawyer every time, it's your right - do it.


ANYONE ELSE THINK THAT HE HAD MISTEATED RHONDA IN THE PAST & SHE USED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE TRUTH & HAVE HIM SENT UP THE RIVER!!


It'd be great to get a reaction video from these people watching these videos lol , the criminals, have their jail buddies all sit around and watch with em lol.


I, myself, hate loud music especially when people do it on purpose. But I don't shoot them. This guy has serious anger and self entitlement issues


I live in duval county, so hearing him say all these familiar places and locations gives me chills.


Given that this was racially motivated, I’m surprised this wasn’t higher profile in the media.


There’s no, “thanks for watching” or “be sure to like and subscribe”

Just a chilling photo and the sentence. Fucking cold


If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hilarious how this guy thought he was reliving a scene in Taxi Driver


@jcs as much as your channel were being f up by YouTube, I really hope if they took down your channel, you will create another one because you will always have our continuous support.


"live and let live" okay, so you practice that by killing?


Man I’m gonna miss JCS. I don’t understand how and why YT is going after this channel


43:11 "Save my life"... Detective: "From the door? "  🤣🤣 That comeback was gold. Spilled my coffee.


If I lived in America with all those trigger-happy cowboys I would be too scared to say boo to anyone! A child lost his life for no good reason! RIP. Perpetrator has a long time to reflect on what he's done!


disgusting. clearly this man had something against these boys for more than just their music. Calling them thugs, yet he’s the only armed and dangerous one.


I love how the witness was like, yeah i just didnt park near it hahaha


the whole made up conversation that he suddenly "remembers" at the trial at the end is actually hilarious. "This shit is going to go down" "you're not gonna kill me, bitch" you couldn't have come up with something better than that?


28:54 I wish cops thought that way when they deal with civilians that drive off instead of shooting them like MD did…


The fucked up part about this? The officers are doing a good job of calling it, but, there's no doubt in my mind the suspect thought "Oh, it's some black kids, doesn't matter if I kill them, it's get away with it." I'm glad the officers kept sticking it to him. Disgusting bastard...


41:36 later and i'm still waiting for him to say sorry for killing a teenager... Such a heartless monster :/
46 min later no remorse apart of nogging his head, like unconsciously, even his inner self know its not looking good... Wtf is going wrong with you people???
52:27 Fake cry xD


So apparently listening to rap music loud makes you a thug but actually opening up and firing on a car full of kids is “self defense.” Yeah aight.


As a Floridian, it's still mind blowing to me the percentage of cases that come out of this state


I lived a few blocks away from this and went to that gate all the time. There always seemed to be a tense vibe there


legend says he still fears for his life and sees shotguns hanging on trees


If guns were banned, all he could’ve done is got into a fistfight with the kids. Like in my country. Unregulated guns means you’re asking for crimes like this.


How can a man fully aware that he is carrying a gun feel his life is in danger. That does not make any sense.


Narcissists can convince themselves that they’re the victim, no matter the circumstances. The beginning recording of their conversation tells you that he truly believes he is the victim.


What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive, clearly guilty, clearly a hotheaded moment complicated with alcohol


It’s crazy cuz it’s not far fetched to assume so many of the assumptions the guy made before shooting were super racially motivated


‘To Save my life’<br>Detective: “From the door??”

‘To Save my life’
Detective: “From the door??”


For all the time it would have taken Rhonda to get the water, he couldnt just sit through the loud music?? She was literally at the counter. Another younk kid dies for no reason. I cant believe he sat talking on that phone saying those young boys attacked him....they wldnt have had any time to get back into the god damn car if he was shooting at the from outside thier car


Watching that one detective put his head in hands like he’s frustrated with all his bs lmao


Witness 7 with most logical epic statement ever.. "Heard the loud music, didn't wanna deal with it!"


"There was no mention of a shotgun?" - "No."
"There was no mention of a barrell?" - "No."
..sooo basically thats a "yes" to that there was a shotgun and a barrell :D

"There was *no* mention of a shotgun?" - "No."
"There was *no* mention of a barrell?" - "No."
..sooo basically thats a "yes" to that there was a shotgun and a barrell :D


17:00 These gun club guys so eager to pull their pistol on a real target, not trying to put all the eggs in the same basket but damn this is a rotten one.


This is why I get so annoyed when television police open their cars doors to use as a bullet shield.


This is the problem with the free availability of hand guns in U.S.A. if this guy hadnt a gun he would have had to chew his steering wheel for a few minutes and drive up the road ranting to his wife about the black kids and that would have been the end of it.


Interesting that one of the lawyers sounds EXACTLY like Kevin Costner in 'JFK'. Lol!


1:35 this moment when he affirms to be attacked says all


<b>I'm the victor and I'm the victim too</b> - That aged well The only victor is the guy who sold the amunition, made a buck or two out of it. Everybody else loose.

*I'm the victor and I'm the victim too* - That aged well The only victor is the guy who sold the amunition, made a buck or two out of it. Everybody else loose.


Software developer jobs can apparently drive people mad.


He should of asked for his lawyer no matter if it's murder or a seat belt ticket , I believe he assumed they had guns didn't see. A gun.  And he shoot a bunch of times. He shouldn't of said nothing to them would of solved everything. Nuff said


"Excuse me, fine gentlemen. Are you saying that you're going to kill me?"


Wow.   How horrible.   Michael Dunn has an uncontrollable temper.   He was at fault


I think he felt threatened because they were black and he had preconseived ideas about them.


Makes me think of the Michael Douglas film "Falling Down". Mild mannered guy who is just having a bad day and SNAPS! That or Michael Dunn REALLY didn't like the Durango's music. There's a moral to this story... It's unacceptable to shoot someone for playing their music too loud and flip-side, if someone asks you to turn the jams down, he may shoot you if you don't.


"Yes sir, fluid motion" new favorite, quote.


He could have just shot in the air, or not shot at all. Just pulling the gun would scare the people away. All over music? The guy is guilty. His excuses are crap. He doesn't seem bothered that someone is dead.. poor him.


I bet michael did the "Are you talking to me? HUH??!! ARE YOU TALKING TO ME??!!" alot in front of a mirror.😂😂


Keep re-watching cause I need JCS videos


Ironic He became  the thing he supposed hated “ a thug”


why is the interview of Rhonda blurred but not the security tapes? Or during the witness statements?


He probably could've gotten way less, if anything if he had just stfu and got a lawyer. I'm not defending him & he got what he deserved. But the main theme in all these interrogations are that fact if the assailant never spoke to police, they probably could have gotten off.


This is one of these cases that make me so conflicted. I can actually understand how this guy feels and why did he do what he did. I get triggered by loud people hitting my ears with their hard bass songs too. I also get adrenaline rush and immediately go into self defense mode when a gang of hoodies starts talking about me in a hostile manner. If I actually heard them say outloud that I'm gonna die I don't know what I would do. I'd be seriously scared for my life too, that's for certain. I know this guy should've just drove some distance away, wait for his gf and get out, not freakin shoot on sight... especially after the car moved and all... I know he weirdly has no remorse, and I know he did a bad thing by not calling police and all. He deserves jail for sure. But those kinds of gangs that make casual life threats without any consequences is cancer of the night life, and they can't be justified either. The guy who got killed never should've been there in such company.

All the evidence points towards the black kids not making any life threats. This guy clearly made it up to justify killing teenagers out of racist petty rage. The guy who got killed was in the company of friends who wanted to listen to loud music. And gang of hoodies? You sound like you need to get some biases sorted out.

They didn’t make any life threats. This dude was just pissed off because someone he felt was inferior to him was disrespecting him, so thought “I’ll show them” and it got out of hand. I’m sure this dude fantasized about being present during a Robert or something where he could pull out his gun and be the hero.


The guy sounds like a 30 year alcoholic...diminished capacity..


Hey I'm just wondering... isn't failure to report a crime, a crime in itself? If Rhonda Rouer knew what had happened (and it's fairly clear she had figured it out), she could've been charged as well, couldn't she?

My opinion is that she was scared of Michael.  He has a history of being abusive in his relationships.


I have to say when the detective started his whole line of questioning and confrontation related to "I can't shoot someone because in my mind they have a gun," I kind of lost it. It's like talking to a 5 year old lol


He's swcewed, I have not even seen all the video but I know he's gone and found guilty. I don't like music loud but I ant pulling no gun unless I believe my life is in danger and the black man had to have been in the car because he was trying to kill them all and I'm white. No that's not justified and if his lawyer can beat this case, he got a good lawyer. Some people just don't need a gun because they get to thinking nobody can say nothing to me because I have a gun. Hes swcewed if they didn't have no gun and he shot the wrong person, that's taking a 17 year old life and u shot all ur bullets and they were trying to get away. He was trying to provoking them because I know they would not say nothing if a gun comes out. I don't believe a damn word about them saying killem. Nobody tells you they are going to kill you because if he didn't see a gun he's lien because he shot more than 9. Return fire, they never shot and he better hope they have a gun. Who cares about what u did and brag about gun skills, u must have not been to good because they seem like they practiced what they were going to say, this is why u don't talk until you have a lawyer because ur going to prison because if u can kill someone else and act like it was nothing, you don't leave the scene because it makes you guilty. He could have went down the road and called the police. He was hoping nobody saw his plate, u never say nothing unless you knew u had something to kill with and I know 💯 percent he would have said nothing without that gun, he's really doomb because nobody had a gun and he can't even say self defense. They had to get away from him and if ur trying to get away, u can't shoot nobody In the back, even In the cowboy days u would be hung if u shot someone in the back because u were called a coward if u did. He is talking nonsense. I would have been crying because I killed someone who had no way to defend himself and he doesn't care and he's not worried about the kid he killed, he's keeps saying I don't want to go to jail, they don't want to hear that


"IM the victim"
"THEY attacked ME"
bruh🤨


Around 15:00 "Im like live and let live and yknow" YEAH WHAT DO I KNOW MICHAEL? I THINK U FAILED ON THAT ASPECT OF THAT SENTIMENT


Am I the only one who thinks this man wanted to shoot someone one day? I think that because of how proud he is about being educated on how to shoot guns!

a lot of these cases, where it was a simple argument over something like a parking spot, or loud music like this one-it always seems like these people are just looking for an excuse to take matters into their own hands. itchy trigger fingers


Well the future wife does not get to see or sit in the court room because she just said he doesn't say anything about a weapon, how they didn't get together and say this is what u say, because she left him and she would either testify for the DA or be charged as well and they all ready told her to say he never told u about a weapon, that's the first thing they asked because it made him look like a lier and he just made a bad decision and he has to pay for it


people who get triggered to easy and guns for sale to nearly all, welcome to america


This must have been out of character for him.  I, for one, have never met an arrogant soft developer :‑J


Rhonda did a good thing. But Jordan Davis was gunner down by her wild, out of control husband for no reason. He was just a kid.


Think they both drunk is why eager to get out of there and not call cops that night. She was there for more wine.


the ear bite off reference is a call back to Tyson holyfield, which was weird thing outside of race 🤔


Does anybody else feel bad for Rhonda as well as the teenagers


Why does he even feel entitled to try to control other people? Narcissistic and racist. Smh I heard “thug” and cringed like I always do. My goodness and him trying to reason with the interrogators through his stereotypes is disgusting smh. Another innocent black life gone because of a racist person’s ignorance and arrogance. And the trauma that his friends experienced from a random act of violence. RIP Jordan. You didn’t deserve that at all. Such a horrible tragedy. And I hope your friends and family find peace.


24:31 My dog whenever I throw any object at all anywhere.


Michael: "I did this coz I feared for my wife's safety .  She is everything to me"<br>Rhonda: "guilty!"

Michael: "I did this coz I feared for my wife's safety .  She is everything to me"
Rhonda: "guilty!"


"live and let live" is sort of ironic here, no?


His smug expression when he says "fluid motion" 🤢. The interrogators do a great job.
"What was the purpose of that?"
"To save my life."
"From the door?"

The door was agitated! It had a shotgun....or maybe a stick, either way I thought I was dead. 😂


Who are these people who initiate violence and then plead for self-defense? What is that?


SNUFFALUFFAGUS!!!!! .......🙊 sorry, I got a little too excited when I finally realized who he sounds like. How's Big Bird, Snuffy??? 🐥


Knows that his phone calls are recorded so keeps insisting on his “innocence” and his “victim” status. Shameful. “Do I need a lawyer? It sounds like I’m in deep $hit.” Well, the guy you shot is in deep dirt, but you’re not thinking of him much are ya?


My tutor is called Michael Dunn.....🤣funny coincidence


Damn, people just need to learn some courtesy.


Watching these now since a bunch of JCS vids have been taken down.


Wat he really said was ( YOU AIN'T GONNA SHOOT ME YOU S.O.B.  PILGRIM 😀  ) OOPS ; MAYBE THAT WAS THE DUKE ;  john wayne  😳


Ahh... so many times I've heard the Global Tel Link prompt.


"I didn't know I was being charged with murder and attempted murder. That sucks."


Re-watching this before YouTube takes it down.

@Becca S. I wish I had your foresight, I would have pulled Pretending to be Crazy and Something About Jody.

@Francis York Morgan Thank you for the warning, downloading the video now.


Let’s call it what it is; racism. Even “witness 7” said he didn’t want to park next to the red Durango because he “didn’t want to deal with the music” but they’re really just beating around the bush because they had a preconceived notion of prejudice and racism. They thought “oh great here’s a car filled with black kids they are blasting music they’re probably going to mess with me I “don’t want to deal with it”.


This is obv a case of racism shooting. He felt the urge to shoot because the kids are black and he “doesn’t like that kind of music”


Jcs making acab less rhetorically effective with every upload.<br>Worth it

Jcs making acab less rhetorically effective with every upload.
Worth it


Dunn: I shot into the door. Detective: What was the purpose of that? Dunn: I was trying to save my life. Detective: From the door? <br>Classic. Sad case but that was good 😆

Dunn: I shot into the door. Detective: What was the purpose of that? Dunn: I was trying to save my life. Detective: From the door?
Classic. Sad case but that was good 😆

Terrible situation but I couldn’t help but laugh


The thing i keep thinking about too is him complaining about music in a parking lot. You’re literally stopping for maybe a total of 20 minutes in a town that isnt even your own. Afterwards you will leave and never see these people again. You literally got agitated over something so small. I just can’t wrap my head around it

I was wondering that too. I’ve stopped at a gas station and heard loud as fuck music a thousand times and never once have I demanded someone turn it down. This guy was looking to start some shit. The only reason he asked them to turn the music down was because he wanted to assert some type of dominance.

@Francis Ge I understand being intoxicated and not thinking clearly, but if you're that drunk to where you can pull out a gun and shoot at ppl over dumb shit, maybe you shouldn't drink. drunk actions are sober thoughts. also I'm pretty sure he has racist motives

@Danitza Porrascorrect, in his past there must have been a similar situation which he couldnt handle in his favour, so that it harmed his selfesteem, thus he tryed to rebuild his selfconvidence with this action, to overlaye the old memorys, to feel superior.

@Francis Ge not get rid of them but just regulate the hell out of them

They were intoxicated, which impairs his ability to think about long term consequences. He likely could not think beyond his emotions in the moment, and probably racist presumptions given the words he's used. Again and again I keep thinking if people just didn't have easy access to firearms this would not be an issue.

Buildup of inner racism finally letting the hate out of his heart.

20 minutes? More like 2 minutes or less to get a bottle of water.

I was thinking this too. It's not even like it was in an adjacent hotel room or something. He was stopping for a few minutes while his fiance got wine. Utterly deranged


when he said that he was the victim, i thought that he was actually threatened. but then i heard the rest of the story.

As soon as he said I was the Victor not only the victim i found that statement was way out of place for someone who found the situation  unfortunate... that was the utterances of someone with a pretty big chip on his shoulder, and portrays a person with a superiority complex.... even down to the description of how skilled he is with a firearm, almost glorifying himself and his skills... this isn't a remorseful, scared individual, this is a guy with serious egotistical issues

@Aurorasfamily Productions Agreed. I mean, it went over my head at first, but when other pointed it out, I was like, "ohh. Duh." And I noticed it more afterward.

Prosperity's Soaps rite?!? Like why do they have to start calling people stupid in the YouTube comments? They act like anyone who disagrees with them is a piece of shit. I notice this a lot with people commenting on YouTube. People are so angry <br>Btw I noticed it from the first minute , first off even if I was in jail I would listen to my wife and how she is doing instead of bitching about being in jail. Like he cut her off and started telling her he’s the victim. Plus he called them thugs? Like he sounds hateful and obsessed with himself  in the first couple seconds

Prosperity's Soaps rite?!? Like why do they have to start calling people stupid in the YouTube comments? They act like anyone who disagrees with them is a piece of shit. I notice this a lot with people commenting on YouTube. People are so angry
Btw I noticed it from the first minute , first off even if I was in jail I would listen to my wife and how she is doing instead of bitching about being in jail. Like he cut her off and started telling her he’s the victim. Plus he called them thugs? Like he sounds hateful and obsessed with himself  in the first couple seconds

@SavageMindSavageLife No, I think that they just didn't catch it. Different life experiences, ya know? You guys caught it, it went right over their heads at first.<br>Edit: It really shouldn't have been such a big deal if they didn't start verbally attacking everyone for no reason, though.

@SavageMindSavageLife No, I think that they just didn't catch it. Different life experiences, ya know? You guys caught it, it went right over their heads at first.
Edit: It really shouldn't have been such a big deal if they didn't start verbally attacking everyone for no reason, though.

@Prosperity's Soaps exactly my point....These folks thought he was innocent because he's white...ergo projecting their hidden racism

@SavageMindSavageLife A lot of people were kind of attacking me on here. Don't worry about it.

Edit: I actually kind of agree with what you said, (above), about racial dispositions.

@SavageMindSavageLife I'm black and I thought he was innocent at first.

@Sydney Roth yeah but I mean it was pretty obvious what he was talking about when he said 'they're violent' on the phone at the start

@Prosperity's Soaps No dummy, we're talking about the first minute. His motive was obviously race. But you can't imply that from the first minute which doesn't mention race.

@Sydney Roth And you were saying he wasn't a racist. You were making the bullshit argument that this wasn't about race. It was about the kids' race, and you know it. That's why you said that "first minute" bullshit. His motive was their race.

@Sydney Roth And you were saying he wasn't a racist. You were making the bullshit argument that this wasn't about _race._ It _was_ about the kids' race, and you know it. That's why you said that "first minute" bullshit. His motive was their race.

@Prosperity's Soaps once again, none of that information is in the first minute of the video. she was talking about the first minute

@Sydney Roth Are you kidding me? He kept calling them "thugs" over and over and over again, because they listened to real music, and because they're black. He had no other discernable reason to say that, and no other reason to assume that they had a gun. Also, he almost never looked at the black officer when he spoke to him, but kept looking at the white officer. How can that not be about race?

@Sydney Roth Are you kidding me? He kept calling them "thugs" over and over and over again, because they listened to real music, and _because they're black._ He had no other discernable reason to say that, and no other reason to assume that they had a gun. Also, he almost _never_ looked at the black officer when he spoke to him, but _kept_ looking at the white officer. How can that _not_ be about race?

He didn’t even say the kids were black from the first minute. This has nothing to do with race stop making this about race

@Anna House you could tell he was full of crap from the 1st minute though....you assumed he was the victim because of your racial desposition...regardless if the victim was black or not

ThaCape Buffalo i’m not sure what my race has to do with it. if you played the first minute to anyone, i think they would assume that someone was actually threatened or in danger. he didn’t say anything about their race in the first clip, for all i knew at the beginning of the video, he could’ve been getting robbed and he shot him, it could’ve been anyone who did it.

me too i thought "oh this is going to be good.. Steve Bannon survived a thug attack and even put one of them to sleep"

same here. if all i heard was the call i would’ve actually felt bad for him, but he’s a horrible person


Hearing him call himself a victim after he killed a 17 year old is beyond disgusting. >:(

Yes, and I think it's equally disgusting that he also calls himself a victor.

@UCdx52IqV10H_7pqM88txrLg not to mention you’re the only one fighting for your ideas here, I can see you talking with other people about how those of color should lose their lives because apparently the world revolves around you...? I could be extremely disrespectful just as you have been to multiple people here, but I decide to stay more composed and mature about this situation.

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I don’t know why everyone’s so upset about the age. A 17 year old threatening you isn’t any less dangerous than a 40 years old doing it. Obviously I’m this case they weren’t a threat and it was unjustified but the age doesn’t really matter

@David Green lol bet ur a trump supporter 🥺🖤

@David Green What? Are you implying he's right for killing an innocent person?

Those animals aren't kids they're future or current criminals

So matter of fact about it, like its a normal thing to do


2:20 - "I'm the victor, but I was the victim too." - This is a fascinating statement. It's is beautiful in how it succinctly demonstrates his thought processes.

@PokeriLaama Also, bad faith arguments are bad faith indeed.

@PokeriLaama It's racism, just like the concept of white privilege. But no, it's only bad when one group does it, not the other(sounds like me racism to me.)

Go ahead, hypocrite. Explain why it's okay when one group is racist and not the other.

@Sean Winters viewing person as member of a group of people instead of an individual, responsible of his groups actions instead of his personal actions, what is that?

@Sean Winters tds is pathetic attempt to reflect any accusation toward djt and frame it as if they were without merit and presented in bad faith. Way to dodge criticism without counterarguments. Tool of people who know they are wrong.

It shows how heartless he is! He doesn't have any remorse for killing a kid! JORDAN WAS THE VICTIM AND HE WAS THE THUG!

You mean 'demonstrates his delusion '. He was neither.  He's just a racist murderer.

@illy wolf 13/50.<br>You want privilege, murder less.

@illy wolf 13/50.
You want privilege, murder less.

@dagmastr12 Without having watched the whole thing, plenty of attackers are killed, and just because they are killed does not mean they are the "victim". Especially when the dead was the attacker. I'm not saying this is so in this case, but obviously, not all who die in an altercation are "victims".

@Solo
"He literally has the smug Trump mouth...must be a correlation."

"Noticing a similarity has nothing to do with ideology. It's literally an objective observation you dunce."

please be honest with others and with yourself.

@G F <br>what did I do that was obnoxious?

@Laughing Achilles Noticing a similarity has nothing to do with ideology. It's literally an objective observation you dunce.
Also I think it's quite healthy to express disagreement towards any ideology that calls nazis "fine people"
:)

Michaelangelo Evans + Laughing Achilles - both of you are the obnoxious ones. Calm down.

He wants praise and sympathy at the same time.

Baron Thundercunt <br>Yes a good synopsis of the human condition in some people.  I do think in his drunken state he did feel threatened but went for the reasons you said went right over the top. The downside of alcohol for sure . It has caused so much misery in so many situations for so many people.

Baron Thundercunt
Yes a good synopsis of the human condition in some people.  I do think in his drunken state he did feel threatened but went for the reasons you said went right over the top. The downside of alcohol for sure . It has caused so much misery in so many situations for so many people.

@Boqoreh Precision

You latched on to a physical feature and related it to a current politician apropos of nothing. This is a clear demonstration of a political agenda despite your claim of a simple aesthetic observation.

@Typhon 608

You are quite correct. I do hope a single error in typing will not cause you to dismiss the argument I put forward.

@Mince

This is why he's interesting. Any normal thinking person cannot understand how he could consider himself to be the victim.

In general, those who kill others in self defense will be distraught as it's such an awful thing to have done. Even when they are absolutely within their rights, killing another person will put them in a state of shock. Dunn fails to demonstrate any guilt or shock, and this is key to understanding him.

Yeah that part actually took me by surprise. Without even knowing what this was really about I just instantly felt like that sounded so bold, selfish, and childish. It was almost like he knew he was being cheeky, the way he said it. Like he relishes in it when fantasises about the idea of others glamourising his actions the way he does.

He appears to see himself as the sort of militia man, capable of doing what needs to be done and using his skills with a firearm to protect him and his loved ones. That honestly seems to be how he sees it, his voice becomes so dramatic and invested, more creative, when he's talking about the actual event and his role in it.

It's really creepy but it shows how stupid he is. The act alone shows that. Guy got a little boozed and thought he'd try to out-gangster some kids who were probably just doing what most groups of young men do. Yeah, they probably were boisterous, maybe one of them did call him a bitch and say he'd kill him. Who fucking cares.

There was clearly no way that those guys were going to randomly starting shooting up some crusty, disgusting old white guy just because he was mouthing off. I think that also shows you a lot about the way he views these guys.

He is clearly harbouring some sort of repressed or redirected racism where he is consistently characterising the victims as thugs or implying they would have weapons. I have little doubt that there is racism in his mind and even if it was not a major part of it, it will likely have played a part in how this all turned out.

I am not one to harp on about racism and stuff like that, I don't really like how sensitive people have become and "isms" are often used as social weapons to manipulate crowds of people. Still, I really think there was a component of that in this.

It feels like it fits with what I imagine when I try to put myself in his mind, to understand why he did it. I genuinely believe that he is insecure to a point that he perceives these young, black men as a threat to his manliness. He seems them being loud and abrasive as an affront to his right to silence as a man. Rather than simply rise above it, his pathetic, childish behaviour came out and he felt compelled to further challenge them.

As this was going on he was no doubt probably already beginning to characterise them more and more as villainous, a threat. That obviously built to a point in his mind where he felt sufficiently frustrated by their taunts, and excited by his combination of alcohol and adrenaline, that he decided to simply shoot them to assert his dominance.

I think the alcohol and adrenaline play a big part in it too. Alcohol fuels fantastical thoughts, if you've ever caught yourself alone (maybe in a pub or club toilet), you will more keenly notice how strongly alcohol effects your actual thought process. Most of the time with alcohol you don't really feel as if you are changing much unlike other drugs where you really notice a stark difference in perspective or just how you feel.

Those thoughts were probably underlying and because he was drunk he was feeling more keen to fight, more sensitive to his already wounded self-esteem, more excited by the rush of chaos that adrenaline brings, and more compelled to take a big step and completely throw caution to the wind to "out-thug the thugs" whilst protecting his woman and righteously gunning down the threat to his town.

His actions after imply he didn't give a shit that he'd killed someone and he wasn't worried about their rebuttal because he knew they weren't going to attack him to begin with. Probably after he sobered up, and the adrenaline wore off, he begin to feel terrible but only because he realised he would inevitably get caught. His worry, sadness or anxiety can all be explained by the fact he knows he's facing life in prison.

Everyone knows that feeling of waking up hung over and remembering what you did the night before in horror. Or worse, you can have "the doom" when you don't remember and your entire day (sometimes week) is spent uncovering whatever damage you wrought.

That's because alcohol lowers your ambitions, it fuels your passions, it narrows your view, it limits your appreciation of anything beyond what is in front of you. It emboldens your imagination and heightens your emotions. That's why alcohol is such a good thing for causing fights, rows, and all other manner of passionately driven thing. Sex. You name it, there's probably way more examples i'm forgetting.

Adeline added into that mix is terrible. If you are really drunk and then you feel threatened, or get flooded with adrenaline for any reason, you become more animalistic. You realise there is a threat but you also understand (because adrenaline sobers you up to some degree) that your senses are dulled and you are vulnerable because of the alcohol. It makes you react quite chaotically and violently. This is why people can hurt those they really care about even if they have no abusive tendencies at all.

Someone who is appropriately inhibited will often begin to see most things as a threat as they begin to feel more vulnerable and act more violently or erratically as a result.

I think this was a case of an insecure cunt, who looks as disgusting as the darkest crease of satan's asshole, who has delusions of grandeur and a general selfish focus on his fantasy life. Someone who thinks all day about what they want to be but never tries to become it, that disparity and disconnect becoming more apparent as they age (as it often does) until they are forced to face their own pathetic, disgusting existence.

When that happens all you may have to do is throw in alcohol and the fantastical whims of the animal brain will begin to force you to act erratically and selfishly in pursuit of becoming what you want to be perceived as.

I think that basic logic underlies why many people do what they do, and I don't think anyone can ever really truly claim to "not care what others think" when they belong to the human race. Our species has thrived, and entirely relies, on collective effort and the power of numbers, socialisation. It is central to pretty much everything we do, people pretty much suffer horrific physical and mental damage if isolated and can literally just die.

I think that's what this is. Its just an example of how people can be selfish assholes who are reckless and rash, how we can kill each other and how life is not just like a game. Life is life, you behave a certain way you get no start over. You kill someone, sorry mate but its life in bars or a needle in the arm.

The story may be tragic all round as he suffers for his pathetic life and his brash, insecure actions; the victim's family and friend is traumatised for life; probably hundreds of people are effected by the death and overall a few minutes of intense recklessness wrought all that.

I think that is pretty much just the human condition as a whole. I believe everyone, including myself, is capable of terrible things for really shitty reasons. I think we should all be incredibly aware of that capability so we don't become a slave to bad habits, stop ourselves from indulging in things we know are wrong, build skills, increase your knowledge, become more capable, engender positivity and progress, be unstoppable. Those are my goals, I want to be a force of nature but for a good reason.

I'm not even saying I want to save the world or do anything significant, I just want to be the type of person who is driven by principal and overall just leaves things more positively than when I left them. That takes a lot of work and I still fail often, but at least i'm trying.

I think this is what happens when you don't try, you age, you allow life to drag you down and you begin to crumble and give into basic, animal-like behaviour because you face your mortality in ignorance, you face the reality of the world with spite and distain and you look at the world as an extension of only your own story.

It can be incredibly hard to gain new perspective. The world is an extremely complicated place when considered in its entirety. Too much nuance and minutiae in every little thing for anyone to ever be able to perceive it all, at once, and be thoughtful to every facet. However, I think we should work towards that because otherwise we'll just stay as stupid, filthy animals rolling around in our own shit, setting fire to our own houses, shooting our own kind, and generally just being overall pretty cunty people.

@Rabbi Coomershekel McPornstien don't think we can sit here like we're cool consuming criminology while we're making jokes about the horrific state of sexual assault in prisons. Criticizing Dunn cos he has exposed his deep true self while exposing your own... Ur embarrassing urself 😬 toughboy

Don't react, think

Boqoreh you’re right. Good observation.

They are “Pursed”.

“Lips which are pulled inwards from all directions are an indication of tension and may indicate frustration or disapproval. Pursed lips are a classic sign of anger, including when it is suppressed. It is effectively holding the mouth shut to prevent the person saying what they feel like saying.”

I was the victim? When someone is dead... I will go out on a limb and say the dead guy is the victim.

@Rabbi Coomershekel McPornstien LOL and he will not be the victor.

@Boqoreh Precision

Maybe you are trolling but if not then I would suggest you try and put aside your ideological viewpoints and analysis this sort of thing through a more objective lens.

Im still trying to clock how he thinks hes been victimised so delusional


Shoots people 10 times for no reason and has the nerve to call himself the “victor but the victim.” How deluded and sociopathic

@tigerlilly721 Thug music! Read his mail house letters. If you still say that he isn't a racist then learn to read.

Some Thing ooohh we got a badass over here, folks

@Paula Lins He never mentioned once that they were black, not once. You are saying that he is racist, because he is white, don´t you? This is called racism. So you have no right to call someone a racist, while being a racist yourself.

Some Thing A minor lost his life because his music was too loud, and you’re applauding that? You’re sick.

@OdinsCloud Yes, in the perfect world people show respect. But is also true - in the perfect world adults show restraint and don't pull guns and act like thug gang members, like Dunn did. The laws on self-defense were written with Dunn in mind and that is why he was convicted and lost two appeals.

Should of been more respectful to him, he only asked nicely that they lower the volume a bit.  I am sure it was crazy, stupid savage loud.

Suppression fire - even the detectives were laughing at Michael about that one.

Some Thing We got an edgelord out here. You see the joke is clearly humorous because it’s edgy and has no other aspect of a good joke that might make someone laugh. Thank you for contributing to the internet with your wise words sir edgelord, and may you go on to randomly say the n-word in the name of attention seeking.

@Curtis Newton What about the context - middle-aged man who talks with a woman's voice trying to be a tough guy?

To a sociopath they are always the victim. Thats their weakness.

maybe he thought it was a pellet gun lol

Rob Romeo not deluded, he knew the call was being recorded, he just wanted to paint himself in the best possible light to try to get out of or at least minimize the trouble he is in.

@Caroline Smyth no reason to shoot. no reason at all


57:25 I m confuse  this happen in florida why JCS SAID he is in a Oregon maximum security Oregon state prison


There’s not even a <b>shred</b> of remorse. None, whatsoever. He is truly a monster.

There’s not even a *shred* of remorse. None, whatsoever. He is truly a monster.

I had to stop the video and cry once he said that he didn’t know who had the gun but hopefully it was the one that he hit. He was a BOY

He cared more about his puppy, than taking the life of an innocent young man

But he sure loved his dog. Just the thought of it brings him to tears.

In his mind, he is doing others a favour by being alive.

I wouldn't say he is a monster because he has no remorse although that does appear to be true he definitely needs to go to jail but there are far worse people out there that target individuals in far worse ways this was a bit of a random act of madness.

@Daily Bread

You are dead right, only cried over the dog ffs

@Chuck Binladen You need to up your profile pic game

Wow totally off topic but but 2 both of you.. lovely profile pictures 🌼

Just didn't want to loose his freedom, that's it. Couldn't give 2 shits about those involved, just himself


That poor woman, oh wow.. when they asked whose idea it was to stop at the gas station, she hesitated before she said 'mine' really softly. I know she may have been trying to decide whether to lie or not (not saying she was, just saying that's a possibility for the hesitation), but I believe I saw and heard so much regret in her, blaming herself. "If only I hadn't decided on that..." If you ever read this, please remember none of this was your fault. 0% of this was your fault. You did not do a thing wrong by making that choice and you could not have predicted this.

@Kirk TV That's exactly why she was halting with her answer -- she felt guilty (which is why I gave the original poster a partial thumbs up for everything except thinking an option could be her contemplating lying).

Besides there being no point to lying about who's idea it was to stop, it's obvious that she hesitated because, like anyone in her position, she'd naturally be playing the 'what if' game.

@Kirk TV That's exactly why she was halting with her answer -- she felt guilty _(which is why I gave the original poster a partial thumbs up for everything except thinking an option could be her contemplating lying)._

Besides there being no point to lying about who's idea it was to stop, it's obvious that she hesitated because, like anyone in her position, she'd naturally be playing the 'what if' game.

Or she could have acted that way because she could have felt guilty for asking go to the store and this incident happened as a result.

Read your comment before seeing the moment and this is an exaggeration. She almost immediately said “mine” like what?

She just wanted a bottle of water and to check on her dog :(

And he would've found another reason to fire that gun. The man is clearly trigger happy.

I think the hesitation was the realization of responsibility. She wasnt responsible but felt guilt in that pause maybe

@hot100easypack yup, ironic that in jail he might listen to more "thugh music" .

@TakamiHawks No worries. It's why I asked for a clarification.

HorseLuver4Ever I apologize. I thought the fact I was referring to myself was implied.

Rohan Luke I find it funny how a teenager has so much more critical thinking than someone who appears to either be an adult or a heavily indoctrinated child. I recommend you listen less to just Fox News, and more than just what you enjoy.

@Rohan Luke Ah yes. The classic defense of "Other people are worse so I'm not bad."

@A Guy Named Something People who think like that do because some people act on that in real life.

@HorseLuver4Ever, racism is ugly. But a racist YouTube comment devastated you?

@HorseLuver4Ever I went back and reread what was written... that is just sick.

@Rohan Luke referring to those kids as farming equipment is just sick.

@HorseLuver4Ever that is just sick. I thought he was referring to the shooter.

She was out with a man who was drinking and driving, so yes, it is kind of her fault.

@nogh Thangs That person is referring to those boys, who are black, as "farming equipment".

@HorseLuver4Ever I did not hear any racism. What makes you say that?

@Callum Lambkin I don't think so. Those kids were innocent.

Rohan Luke Oh okay. Did you get the attention you needed?

I don't think she hesitated bc she thought she might not admit it was her idea to stop<br>... I think she hesitated bc, like you said,  she feels like this whole thing was her fault. I don't think the woman has it in her to lie. It's rare to see  such honesty in a person these days. She's definitely lucky to have found out her fiance had such malice and evil in him.

I don't think she hesitated bc she thought she might not admit it was her idea to stop
... I think she hesitated bc, like you said,  she feels like this whole thing was her fault. I don't think the woman has it in her to lie. It's rare to see  such honesty in a person these days. She's definitely lucky to have found out her fiance had such malice and evil in him.

Rohan Luke Dehumanizes other people yet thinks he’s an example of humanity. How’s that cognitive dissonance treating you?

@piraterocks might be!? 🤯 the word might is the mindblowing issue

Ignore the nasty troll and report the disgusting hate speach. <br>It must be a sad life they have.

Ignore the nasty troll and report the disgusting hate speach.
It must be a sad life they have.

He would have done something else the next day. Never seen someone so detached. When was last time after you shoot someone you go home take your dog out and go to sleep ? He is a piece of shit and belongs in prison. Incredible that he truly believes he is the victim. That is his reality and no one will ever change it, no matter what.

HorseLuver4Ever only devastating to whoever thinks like thats heart and mind

@Callum Lambkin As am I. The amount of racism in that thought alone is devastating.

@HorseLuver4Ever I'm scared that he's referring to the black kids

@Rohan Luke "Farming equipment"? What does that mean?

@Rohan Luke "Farming equipment"? What does that mean?

If he was capable to snap with a bunch of kids that were just being slightly disrespectful, he would do the same to her

Yeah that poor lady. What a nightmare that unfolded in moments! That monster was just looking for trouble and trigger happy.


"Live and let live" is a weird thing to say while being interrogated for murder.

@I Em Hoo I Iz I don't think she could have saved him. He got out of the car and kept shooting as they were fleeing. That throws any illusion of "fearing for your life" out the window.


If those 4 dudes never got out of their car, and didn't point any weapons at Dunn.... then this guy had NO justification to fire at them !!!  2nd degree murder.


This guy is making me sick to my stomach, kiling a kid simply because he talked back at him. And then these crocodile tears in court, NOT because of the kid but boohoohoo I was so scared for my fiance. YECH!!!

@Jxmi Official animals? The CHILD he shot was a human being. He had a mother and father. He had a future ahead of him, and that was snuffed out by that monster in cold blood. The only animal I saw in that situation was the one who murdered a person whose only transgression was being a regular teenager, and talking back to a privileged beast.

or maybe he was actually threatened by animals

@Alex Buchanan I have PTSD and I can't speak for everyone but I'm not gonna pull a gun out and shoot someone! I'm currently living in volatile abusive situation with constant triggers and I still wouldn't shoot someone. Ever

@Steve Purcell In any case he fired several shots at the vehicle. They attempted to flee for fear of their lives, and he still fired more shots. He felt no remorse for killing a 17 year old child. An unarmed child that was no threat to him. He lied to the police, but you see justification in the murder of this young man? The child threatened his life by playing loud music he didn't like?

@Steve Purcell He did not! He was back talking him, but did not threaten him.

@Alex Buchanan There was a warning sign obviously. When he said he didn't like that "thug" music, his fiancee replied "yes, i know". He clearly had prejudice toward these children for more than just their volume of music. He can't even look the officers in the eyes while being questioned. He is looking at their feet, his hands, or the note pad. He gets clearly agitated when the officer in blue begins questioning him. That behaviour, at least where I am from, is not abnormal in people like him.

I wonder if he was having some kind of PTSD or anger issues.  A hair trigger temper like that wouldn't have come without some kind of warning signs.  He should have been under watch before he murdered a bunch of kids.


This guy doesn't seem like the full deck to me


The way he expects everyone to just go along with his story and how he genuinely thinks "fearing for his life" is an excuse to kill a harmless kid, makes me wonder how much racism he got away with before he reached this age.

@MotaShotta Since forever. There has yet to be laws in place against having a distaste for a given race. That's like thoughtcrime, my dude.--That said, Canada is working on it.

@MotaShotta There's a pretty simple answer as to why they don't think he's racist. (They're racist too)

@Jonathan King it is thug music though? Assuming they  are listening to 95% of what rap music talks about

Put another way, hypothetically, if any of you lot are ever implicated in a serious crime (I hope you never are) and there are suspicions of your guilt (even if innocent) - you’d want your case to be analysed fairly and with a fine toothed comb and you’d want evidence to be used without bias or speculation. Now, whilst we can all agree that THIS murderer deserves whatever he gets (whether he’s racist or not he still murdered someone so it doesn’t really matter anyway) if it were any other case, or if YOU were accused of something, you’d soon come to respect it when people analyse your case thoroughly. You’d be pretty annoyed if you saw YouTube threads with everyone saying “oh yeah he did it - definitely a psycho or a homophobe or a racist” - you’d want truth not speculation. It doesn’t matter here because this man is definitely guilty anyway so you can call him whatever you like really, but because the same principle can apply if someone is innocent - yes it’s important to get it right and be factual about motives. Also, the true motive of a crime can impact someone’s sentencing.

@Kmmz 444 I’ve also fired people and saved their asses - and I can assure you, when you’re making life changing decisions that can change peoples futures you really do learn to question every fine detail.… I’m sharing my wisdom here guys. I’m technically an old lady with a lot of life experience and ups and downs … criminology is a fascinating subject because things can shock you and are not always what they seem. There was a case about a man who was walking by and saw an open window, he went in the house through the window and urinated on the carpet and stole a worthless photo frame. When he was questioned he had no prior convictions and he was assessed by professionals as sane and deemed to have no motive. In this case, he committed a crime without motive but it proves that people can commit crimes without there being a motive such as “race” - although race as a motivating factor is a good possibility here, it’s not a 100% definite. The man who urinated on the carpet was deemed to have had a moment of impulsivity where he was compelled to do what he did - without any other reason. The human mind is so complex like that - people need to consider this.

@TooMuchGusto it’s not actually a hate crime by definition if the crime wasn’t committed due to someone’s race or gender or whatever

@Kmmz 444 analysing data, complex cases information is my job - of 20 years. You need to be 100% correct and precise and evidence should be conclusive and not speculative. The stupid thing is, I’ve not denied he’s racist. I’ve said there is no solid and conclusive evidence that he definitely is. And I am 100% correct in my assertion. But because you all get emotional you can’t handle any kind of questioning - it’s a dangerous society when you can’t question things because of the sheeple getting upset and offended. I’m speaking the truth.

Why does it have to be racist? Hate crimes are crimes being racist isn’t a crime it’s a belief….

@ReyCo47 in fact - it’s your assumption that I don’t know rap music or hip hop because of my skin colour that’s hilarious here.

@Brindians why doubt they were listening to Mozart? Lmaaao your true colors show. Obviously they were listening to rap based on what was said in the video but still. You realize that black people are largely responsible for the creation of rock and roll right? Not every black person just listens to rap.

@MotaShotta He is a murderer. Without remorse as the court recording proves. Assumptions about him being a racist are assumptions. I don't see any point in  disputes over that. The murderer was sentenced. Racism is not good and better be fought in the local communities rather than having this  hero stance against racism  here in the comments section.

@Lucky Luke I have the same notion. The discussion whether or not he is a racist is irrelevant after he  made those shots and killed other human being. Btw the word "thug" is used for any skin colour here in Ireland for describing anyone up to no good who is prone to committing a crime of some kind.

@Lucky Luke that was pure racism calling them thugs and saying how he hates thug music then lied about them having a gun was because they were black

@Brindians he is clearly racist no way he would have done that to a car full of white teenagers everything he said points to him being a racist but I see you just want to argue with people

@Jonathan King you’re INSANE. I’ve never in my life known anything or anyone like it. You’re bonkers 👋

@Jonathan King and you’re out of your depth with British Indian history

@Jonathan King someone has been googling … you’re going all over the place now and have gone off on a tangent. I think you just enjoy arguing, namely because you’re intolerable and narcissistic- so you’re clutching at straws.

@Jonathan King i’m british too & the word thug here in the uk is absolutely used as a racist word towards black people/culture, dude is 100% talking out of his ass

@Jonathan King and it’s obvious you’re only young - and have a lot to learn in life yet.

@Jonathan King you’re on another planet. You’re completely bonkers.

@Jonathan King I don’t know what you’re talking about. You need solid evidence to prove it’s racism rather than making assumptions. Eminem is white - some people discriminate because of music and style and hip hop culture, regardless of skin colour there are both black and white people who consider it “thug music”. I’m not discriminating them because of their choice of music, but the murderer could have been. Lots of a*** holes like him are judgemental - doesn’t mean I am. I went through a phase of listening to all of that and 2Pac so how can I judge. Like I said, racism IS possible and feasible but it’s not proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Talking about burning crosses is silly. Use a level head instead of emotions. Facts and truths are far more important than expectations and beliefs.. he certainly seems like an evil racist man, it’s possible he was stereotyping rather than being racist. If you’ve ever seen a group of white or Asian kids listening to hip hop they are often judged in the same way for their style and music rather their skin tone … it’s just a hunch and I am not one for following sheep just to gain approval. I want hard evidence and not a popularity vote.

@Wombo Combo it means he hasn't faced any consequences for it until this point

@Wombo Combo Since when is it not illegal to be racist?

It's not illegal to be racist lol. What do you mean "got away with" racism?

Well Zimmerman got away with it then sold the gun he used at auction for a quarter million $ so it’s not too far fetched to think he could have gotten away with it.


Imagine being that woman. Your picking up wine after a wedding, excited to continue a fun night with your fiancé. But in the time it took for you to go in and buy wine, the person you love more than anyone in the world got so mad about some loud music that he guns down a 17 year old in cold blood. The person you love and trust, suddenly transforming into a complete monster, over some hip hop.

Correction, over “BASS”. His windows where up.

Correction, over “BASS”. His windows where up.

@Roxanne Moser and she’s terrified during the trial!! Actually saying things against him in front of him terrifies her. I feel so awful for this woman. Other people are saying she knew who he was but she’s terrified of him

@Sanne Thomsen what time am i picking you up

@Sanne Thomsen what time am i picking you up

@Video et Taceo I think you @ the wrong person

@Video et Taceo I think you @ the wrong person

@Sanne Thomsen but you do jump...to conclusions.

@Sanne Thomsen but you do jump...to conclusions.

@Jack O’Rourke "I hate that thug Mozart."

@Jack O’Rourke "I hate that thug Mozart."

She kinda dodged a bullet no pun intended

She kinda dodged a bullet no pun intended

to be honest, when I hear hip hop being played in public, I reach for my gun too, but then take a deep breath and choose to let the perp live

@b YESS VERY MUCH AN ENEMIES TO LOVERS TYPE OF ENERGY

@b YESS VERY MUCH AN ENEMIES TO LOVERS TYPE OF ENERGY

Not taking anything away from this guy, but that's the power of alcohol. It brings out these tendancies in some people. And people hate on weed instead smh.

She told the judge she stopped to buy water lol

She told the judge she stopped to buy water lol

Rhonda should've left him way before this happened. She's lucky to be alive herself. You cant tell me he didn't abuse her, at the very least, emotionally. Listen to her demeanor talking with police, and compare it when she's on the phone with him. He even terrifies her on the phone.

I imagine she was treated like a possession by him. I pray she has since found someone better.

@Jack O’Rourke LMAO :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

@Jack O’Rourke LMAO :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

yeah they should have turned down their music.

yeah they should have turned down their music.

@Andrew Shearin they were together for four years she def know what kind of person he was she just didnt care cause it didnt affect her

@Sanne Thomsen this comment chain is unironically a better story than most Hollywood movies

I have so much respect for her for not trying to paint him in a better light during her interviews.  She told the facts exactly like they were, even though she easily could have lied to say that yes he was afraid at the hotel, etc, and continue the narrative that "he was afraid of retribution".

Your assumption that this man was someone she trusted, and also that he was somehow a stand-up citizen that "suddenly" transformed?

He definitely beat her on a regular basis, and was an extremely racist piece of trash. There was no transformation into a monster. He was born one.

@Jack O’Rourke bro shut up. That was the most likely scenario thethe majority of us blank people listen to it. So we’re gonna use the majority in this case

I like how Sanne and Jack have peacefully come to an agreement, it’s like straight out of an enemies to lovers slow-burn fluff angst 40k word fanfic

@Jack O’Rourke the idea of them absolutely vibing to intensely loud Paganini or something is hilarious despite the events

Something tells me she knew what kind of man he was already but didn’t think he’d actually go through with it.

@Jack O’Rourke “is that BACH?!?! Hell naw, we are good respectable BEETHOVEN people here…”

@Sanne Thomsen Yayyy you guys I ship it😂❤

@Sanne Thomsen Yayyy you guys I ship it😂❤

It wasn’t “in cold blood”. He was clearly quite angry and didn’t have time to reflect about the situation. But of course that doesn’t justify any of what he did.

Rhonda was thinking "I can't go to prison, I won't make it"... And she let the truth roll right out.

He wasn't suddenly transforming. This racist behaviour was there when she met him. The violent tendencies, the escalating. It was all part of his personality. <br>I'll bet on that

He wasn't suddenly transforming. This racist behaviour was there when she met him. The violent tendencies, the escalating. It was all part of his personality.
I'll bet on that

Hey man Yung Lunch Pail just does somethin to a man

Hey man Yung Lunch Pail just does somethin to a man

Horrific. Reminds me of that scene in Frends when Phoebe moves in with the cop....the man she thought was perfect....until he shoots a bird for singing in the morning...but tragic and not funny.

@Jack O’Rourke you know damn well what thug music means lmao.

He probably would have asked them to turn it up if it was Kenny Rogers and not Kendrick Lamar.

Although I guess Dunn is so racist he probably could have convinced himself that Beethoven was actually 2 Live Crew and found a reason to start popping off anyway

@Sanne Thomsen i love it when ppl go from arguing to becoming chill in comment sections 💀💀

Well I would say that some of the boys and her dodged a bullet that day.

Well I would say that some of the boys and her dodged a bullet that day.

@Jack O’Rourke It's okay Jack, I'll give you validation....as soon as you take me to that party you promised me

@Lame Gamer what are you on about kid?hahahahahah

@Lame Gamer what are you on about kid?hahahahahah

@Jack O’Rourke   Better to be someone who doesn't "party" at all than to live the party life seeking validation

He was shot for threatening a man with death, then advancing towards him.

He was shot for threatening a man with death, then advancing towards him.

@Sanne Thomsen Nas has a song that’s based off of Fur Elise so it could be classical and hip hop.

@Jack O’Rourke I knew right from the start we were destined for each other!! Will you pick me up?

@Sanne Thomsen well… i do like some jazz, i also like thug music… it’s a date

@Jack O’RourkeBummer... I prefer jazz thug music, but I am looking forward to see you  trying to dance to that!

@Sanne Thomsen oh by the way we’re only playing classical thug music at this party…

@Jack O’Rourke Yayyy, party time! Thank you!

@Jack O’Rourke Yayyy, party time! Thank you!

@Sanne Thomsen Fine… i like your persistence

@Sanne Thomsen Fine… i like your persistence

@Sanne Thomsen No wonder you don’t party, who would invite you hahahahahaha

@Sanne Thomsen No wonder you don’t party, who would invite you hahahahahaha

@Jack O’Rourke No, my name is Sanne not Sherlock. I don't know where you got that  name from

@Sanne Thomsen it was clearly a joke , i’d say your some buzz at parties

@Sanne Thomsen it was clearly a joke , i’d say your some buzz at parties

@Jack O’Rourke Right, because a white man would refer to classical music as "Thug music"

Stopping at the corner store takes not even 7 mins.... He wanted to tell someone to shut up in that small time? Who cares if the music is loud wow

I completely agree, but nobody said it was hip-hop , couldve been some soothing classical music

imagine the fear in her heart on the way home in the car

imagine the fear in her heart on the way home in the car


"I'm the victor", that says it right there. He counts himself as the winner of the exchange because he shot at a bunch of kids who were having fun. He ended a life, he traumatized probably the rest of those kids and others who were there potentially, and he's going to prison probably for the rest of his life. That isn't winning, that's being a cowardly sack of shit.

@Leo Vasquez the reason why our government want 17 year olds was because they were so easy to trick to fight a war for them.

@KGNT messing with the wrong one  =  possible death sentence. That’s common sense. Something I had as a teenager. Living in Flint, Mi teaches you that ;)

@Leo Vasquez so listening to music loudly = death sentence...noted

@EREX98 ignoring things that you know will take you to a point like that, to shoot literal KIDS? That’s now being an adult, that’s childish asf. Adults ignore things and have a much better temperament, or at least they should, since they’re ADULTS (18+) those kids were still in high school. There’s no excuse. Because toddlers are annoying, but you shouldn’t hit or hurt them. Same with developing young adults. Sheesh man😕

@Kerchoo. I’m not defending him. He got what he deserved. He shouldn’t have shot them nor said anything to them. I’m saying don’t be surprised when you confront someone.

@Kerchoo. so are you implying the 17 year old ww2 soldiers were not men. Your brain fully develops in your 20s so 18 and 19 yr olds are children too? I didn’t say they deserved to die. I said don’t provoke and be surprised at repercussions.  Do you tease a dog then play the victim when it bites you.

@Leo Vasquez He came with a problem, and hate in his heart. Don’t fucking defend a man who shot children in cold blood. Jesus Christ

@Leo Vasquez you‘re literally trying to make these kids look like they‘re in any way shape or form responsible for being shot at 10 times and one of them being murdered in cold blood? how sick can you be

@Luc Laflamme its funny bcuz witness 7 stated that he parked away from the car bcuz the music was loud. And that there was an empty spot nxt to witness 7's car where he could've parked but instead he parked nxt to the car with the loud music. Not only did he choose to park there but thn he choose to say something. And then after the driver gets into the car he starts talking to them AGAIN. Not only did he not hav to wind his window back down the 2nd time. 1zt time sure. He asked nd thy did turn the music down. He said thank u nd the music starts again. If thy clearly didnt care the 1st time u asked y continue to entertain the young men? On top of that. He winds down his window a 2nd time and speaks directly to the only one is the car who is defensive to resume the verbal. And bcuz he was speaking to him "yes, i am talking to you" he shot him 3x and murdered him? And after those 3 shots that murdered his target in the 1st 45 SECONDS!!! Of the shooting he continued to shoot off another 5-6 shots? And those 5-6 shots were staggered.  He shot 2 while the car reversed hitting the front door nd thn continued while the car fled. Ill nvr understand how in any moment during this entire situation did he feel his life was in danger. Those 3 boys DID fear as thy drove away being shot at, but sadly the 4th boy died b4 he could've even been afraid bcuz he shot straight at him.

@Luc Laflamme or, they were just being kids?

Not to mention completely tainted the wedding night of his son and daughter-in-law. Every anniversary they celebrate will be the anniversary that his dad murdered a child in cold blood.


It would of been better to go home  .... The Wine wasn't that important .