A few minutes of loud music while waiting for Rhonda, that's all it took, to turn lives upside down. Its entirely possible Mr. Dunn truly felt a sense of threat, at least a "perception of threat". Perceptions are learned, created, indoctrinated. Guns don't create security, in fact they create insecurity as we perceive others being armed. Guns aside, mind is another volatile zone, that's where emotions, reactions, thoughts, beliefs, pressures and perceptions are born, leading to rather erratic and automatic behaviors.  So much chaos could have been prevented. RIP young man.


The guy has the mentality of a 14 year old at best..... unbelievable he made it this far in life without other major problems


90 years plus additional life. Yikes. A lesson to all the rambos out there. RIP to the kid who was shot. Dunn lacking in self awareness. His guilt seems obvs.

I do have conflicting some thoughts about this video though. Claiming that he knew they were minors. And playing up his use of word kids. I call kids anyone under 27. I feel there was some bias apparent there. Also what if his fiance is fabricating claiming no weapon mentioned. She initially said it was fairly silent. My wife tonight forgot that she used to cover the kids milk with plastic wrap before microwaving. She swears she never did.  Ut i recall vividly she did. People can forget things you would expect theyd recall easily.


Did this happen in Oregon? I'm an Oregonian and this reminded me a lot of how certain groups of people act. The whole "I was just defending myself, they were gonna kill me. They were thugs!" and it's just baseless attempts to justify dehumanizing other individuals. My heart goes out to the victim and their family. Justice was served although nothing will ever bring back the victim and that is what we must remember above all else.


Regardless of  this case, all of the suspects that are interrogated on this channel are almost always convicted because they are stupid enough to talk to the police without a lawyer.


Even in the trial he’s enjoying telling how he shot at them exclaiming “you’re not going to kill me!” Like it’s a game or something


I feel bad for his daughter.  She looked so beautiful at her wedding.  Then all of this is going on.  "What happened to your daddy, we are ready for the daddy/daughter dance."  Well, he just killed a young man and went and ordered pizza.  My wishes go out for the young couple.  They look very happy.


Hands down one of the greatest YouTube channels to ever exist. JCS, please keep making content. You are AMAZING!


Ruined his life on the day of his sons wedding over loud music... God damn man old people need to get off their high horse. Got what he deserved for his prideful view on life and what I assume are racial prejudices. I don't know how a man could try to justify pulling a gun like that and unloading the clip, walking away thinking he did the right thing.


the intro is all you need. just the way he laughs it off even with the gravity of the situation


He was already drunk and had that liquid courage… seen some young kids and tried to be a macho man… he actually thought he would get away with this crime


Unfortunate how these tragedies get sparked. God help us all. We need it!


“I didn’t know I was being charged with murder and attempted murder… that sucks” Lmao


“The sad fact of it is, is that he’s telling me he’s gonna kill me” no THE SAD FACT is that you opened fire on a car full of unarmed boys, took one of their lives and feel no remorse about it.


How could someone, in the right state of mind, get out of his car in order to fire at someone with a gun??????? <br>Dunn is GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

How could someone, in the right state of mind, get out of his car in order to fire at someone with a gun???????
Dunn is GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!


They just could not get him over the bridge that there WAS NO SHOTGUN. It’s like he doesn’t want to be bothered with that minor fact and can’t understand why they keep bringing it up😂 He really believes it doesn’t matter whether they had a weapon or not. He genuinely believes all that matters is what was going on in his sick, demented head and depraved heart. Those rum and cokes betrayed him. Did him in. Devil. I hope he’s having a great time with Bubba😂


Frankly, if I killed someone I'd prefer to just get it out right away instead of lying about it. Honesty helps more.
As my dad has said to me about any action that you think is right, but will be punished
"Always count your coin, because there is no fooling the butchers bill."

All actions have consequences and you have to accept it, no matter what. You WILL pay the butchers bill, so be damn sure you can afford it before acting. Just because it cost more than you thought doesn't abstain you from the cost.


56:02 Rhonda saying no for all the questions made me feel so bad for her


“There was no weapon found in the vehicle.”
“Was there a stick?”
😧


These people are just as dangerous as a "normal" murderer. They just hide it behind a facade of self defense and pretending to be the victim. Like a parasite.

@Robert Gaudet well, it isn’t is it?  2 men are dead, and the state has to support 2 men in prison until they die.
Whereas this wouldn’t have happened at all in Europe.
For goodness sake try to think these things through, if the system worked those 2 men would still be alive.

@rafer Jefferson iii you picked out two of the worst examples possible.  Not only that, but both examples are serving very long prison terms.  Seems like the system is working.

This is a result of gun laws in US.  You have a lot of guys like this (also see Michael Drejka) who are deeply obsessed with firearms snd quasi military training and are desperate for a situation to come up where they feel threatened so they could open fire.
The defence is that people kill people not guns, but nobody outside of the US is driving around with knives and crossbows and going to knife clubs to learn self defence etc.
2A has a cost and this is it.


Witness 7 is the smart one to avoid that open parking spot. Also Rhonda did the right thing by not covering for the douche.


Rhonda , please move forward , you are too nice to be friends with that pathetic guy.


Calling them “kids” doesn’t mean he knew they were “kids” could just mean “young people”. That man is old. I’m in my mid 30s and even I call people that are 23-24 year olds kids lol. Someone who is 24 is obviously full grown. Just something I wanted to point out. Anyways what happened was WRONG it did not need to end in a shooting with a pointless loss of live. Very sad


Unfortunely you have to wait until a weapon is pointed at you with witnesses or video to claim stand your ground.


Imagine being testified against by your own wife...


"It was either a barrel or a stick." Very convincing stuff...


I love your channel ! You’re my favourite new channel I’ve found ! I can only hope someone says the same about me one day :)


Can we take a moment to appreciate Rhonda for being a genuinely honest and kind human being and not even for a second considering she could lie to protect this monster? Thank you, Rhonda. I'm sorry this man stole your heart and your time from you. You'll find someone much better.

@Parkour they were engaged, she dodged the bullet. Why are you being a pedant, lol

she probably saw the opportunity to get out of a shitty abusive marriage and took it. Good for her.


This fool thought he was a tough guy.. well.. now he gets to prove how tough he is for the rest of his life.


when he called himself the "victor" i got angry


56:00 - When Dunn's entire defense collapsed due to the honesty of his girlfriend.  Damn, I guess he didn't have those mind-control powers that he wished for.


"I really didn't know I was being charged for murder and attempted murder. That sucks."  <br>Yup.

"I really didn't know I was being charged for murder and attempted murder. That sucks."
Yup.


Another example that having a gun is more likely to  cause your demise than to your save your life


I feel bad for Rhonda because she had to be there yo witness it all and see her fiancée kill an innocent man


23:40 you can kinda hear in the cops voice “ya know hindsight’s 20/20!” Ok so now he’s saying he saw a barrel??? Which was it?! A shotgun across his chest or a barrel? AUGH, those independent witnesses’s will fuck ya every time right?!


Easy fix: Don't give everyone guns. Hell, take away everyone's guns. No guns, no gun violence.


"I hate this thug music."
goes on to do some thug shit

"I hate this thug music."
*goes on to do some thug shit*


"Being in a room by myself kinda sucks...". You're in a cell. This man has lost all sense of reality.


"i honestly got the shit scared out of me."

"oh, i know."

that sarcastic tone is priceless.


If the music is so loud that you can barely hear anything then how did you hear them saying they were going to kill you?


“He was coming at me” poor kid didn’t even get out of the car 🤦🏼♂


I can't be the only person that feels like he has done this before just not been caught! He just seems to be far to calm!


29:07 the irony of an officer of the law claiming that you cant shoot at someone just because you think he has a weapon


If only he knew how to keep his thoughts to himself and how to keep his big mouth shut.

 Had he just remained in his vehicle and waited for his fiancé to return, they proably wouldn't have been around the so called "thug" music much longer. And the poor kid would have never have lost his life at such a young age.

Also, what the f!ck is "thug" music? Like how does a person consider a certain type of music, "thug"? Just because you don't like it? I don't like rap music, but I don't think it's "thug" music. I just don't like it. It's not my taste, not my style.

Anyways, I'm glad this guy is behind bars.


So unprovoked he shot at the young men, why does this make zero sense. Was loud music and a verbal dispute enough to justify shooting his gun ?


He initiated his own downfall, why he didn’t park his car as far away from loud music if he doesn’t like it.


I've never watched this whole video, because this guy is so difficult to listen to. I just am left with a bad taste in my mouth for this man.


Dude had a ride or die fiancé , why would you risk that for what?


"How much more grevious the consequences of anger than the causes of it." Marcus Aurelius


The wife knows he has a short temper and I wonder if she answered that question under oath?


nah yeah i could see him making up the shotgun thing after realizing what he did - no idea how a cop could wrap their mind around anyone doing something like that though i mean 'he definitely had a gun' amirite?


This is why I avoid any public altercations. You never know who will be a psychopath looking for someone to shoot. They should have just kept the music down and left. He shouldn’t have asked them to turn the music down in the first place but since he did they could have just gone on their own way. Being a tough guy is never worth it due to psychos like this guy

He shouldn't have shot at them. End of story. What is wrong with you?

They had no obligation to turn the music down IN THEIR OWN CAR.

“They should have just kept the music down and left”…that’s wild to blame the victim.


“Before I do, anything, I ask myself, “Would an idiot to that?”  If the answer is yes, I do not do that thing.”  Dwight.


He thought by saying "I feared for my life" was going to help him 🤣🤣🤣


15:06 i just wanted to say that i sometimes refer to others as "kids" even though they're adults and sometimes even older than me. generally when i use it in this way, it's more of like a condescending remark to something they've done that's juvenile. i don't mean to defend the guy; even with my usage of the word, it implies he saw their loud music as juvenile and thought himself better than them because of it. i just don't agree with the prosecution suggesting his usage of "kids" implies he knew their age.


Nothing will justify that poor boy's death, but I'm so glad they confronted him at the end and told him that he had NO criminal history. Truly breaks my heart. I hope he's living peacefully in heaven.


I have to say that I am in my mid 50s and everyone younger than me is ‘a kid’, a girl or boy. I’d say up to about 40 yeah. Those kids. That girl… Just the way I talk and think. Everyone doesn’t do those things the same.

That was bothering me. Had to chime in.


"I have so much going on in my personal life..."  Oh really?  Pray tell!  "The last thing I want to do is be in trouble."  And so that's why I carry a Dirty Harry-style gun in my glove box.


“Hopefully it’s the guy that I hit” sir you are not convincing


"I thought I was gonna be killed... I was just, like, going: "Oh my god, where is all this hostility coming from?" ."


I thought heat of the moment means no premeditation which means no first degree murder charge? Thought it would be second degree or manslaughter .


While he seems to have been in the wrong it seems a severe sentence compared to many other criminal cases. I had a shadow of a doubt until his fiance's testimony.


when the love of your life put you in jail maximum years 😂


“I really didn’t know that I was being charged with murder and attempted murder… that sucks…”


I get the feeling he was abit drunk and aggressive when drinking, he snapped over something so small, loud music, he aimed his loaded gun straight at them boys with intent to put a bullet in them, why didn’t he just show it as a scare tactic he didn’t really need to shoot, obviously he wasn’t thinking clearly due to having 4 rum and coke, and being somewhat racist, and showing no remorse for killing a boy, hes gunna regret that decision the rest of his days


If this video doesn't sum up the political state of America right now then I don't know what will


why in the US you cant talk to lawyer before speaking to police? i mean i see in all the videos the accused men are kinda forced to speak to police without even seeing a lawyer


Prosecutor sounds like Kevin Costner. Half expecting to hear "Back and to the left..."


The black gentleman in the yellow tie at the trial, most likely Jordan Davis's father, looked like he wanted to jump out of his skin when done recounts his "chits going down" version of events.


Her testimony  killed him he deserves what he got


This guy had a gun to protect himself, and set out to use it.


“I know I shoot through the door. Driving him back.”

“How’s he coming out if you shot through the door? You’re confusing us.”

“Alright.” - he says this like it’s a challenge.


I've been next to vehicles with the music blaring and bass thumping. It is irritating because I don't like loud noises. But what you do is just wait it out. She was going to be in and out of that store in 5 min. or less. He certainly could have put up with the music for a few minutes.


He called because he knows it’s being recorded!


Pride will lead you down such a bad road. Just let it go.


stopping to add the joint and sunglasses thug life meme to these detectives every time they earned it would triple this videos length.


Michael Dunn is your typical entitled boomer.


I just don't understand. Trust me, I go to work every morning, so if he was home trying to sleep while some dude was outside blaring music, I'd be very sympathetic to that. Been in that situation before and it's very stressful. But bro!! He was at a gas station during the middle of the day!! Like how tf was that music bothering him? It's music, it wasn't physically affecting him. It wasn't keeping him awake. What a baby smh


imagine throwing your life away over loud music that you would be near for less than 5 minutes :|

He’s gonna be around it much more in jail lol


“I hate that thug music”

*commits armed murder in a parking lot*

“I hate that thug music”

**commits armed murder in a parking lot**


I would argue just bc using two hands doesn't mean it takes more time to think. If you've trained yourself to draw and fire with two hands, it's natural if able.


29:06 "I can't shoot somebody because in my mind they had a weapon."
well, unless you're a cop


This guy was looking for trouble.  And he found it.


I feel like the white homeboy could have avoided all of this, if Rhonda could have introduced him to Playboi Carti.


"I mean, it's absurd that they would do that, but you know, they are violent"<br>HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

"I mean, it's absurd that they would do that, but you know, they are violent"
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM


He was a software developer?! He doesn’t seem bright or articulate enough.


am i the only that can't stop revisiting this video just to hear at 55:20 "let me finish"


Dammmn, that was better than any motion picture i saw recently


There may be some racial undertones in this case


Does the suspect have a job at Fox News yet?


Whole life gone away in the blink of an eye


This dude has the same mannerisms as Chris Chan


Sad! Over music 🎶 he didn't understand or like.  We live in a world where people believe they can't be offended.  Learn to deal with things you can't control.. and control ourselves. Peace ✌


Of course he’s being held in Oregon… fits right in


Why fuzz her out? We already saw her on the surveillance footage…


He thought he was going to walk like Zimmerman.


Corect response would be: "alright son, I go and make you a brother now".


Its not like you are going to be at the service station for a long time. Why mess with folks? Let people alone. If they are not mess with don't mess people back


All that's missing so far is "I'm American, man!"


20 bucks says he's  that  guy at the range shooting at the burly thug with the gun paper target practicing  his two hand  draw just waiting for the day someone  tests him


I hate when I'm watching these and 10 mins in I realize I already seen it.


Even Clayton Bixby didn't shoot teenagers because of loud rap music.


I wonder if he would have been convicted if they didn't talk to the pigs


Poor innocent kid , RIP ! This sick monster who killed you unfairly is not capable of hurting more innocent people, he is rotting in jail for the rest of his life ! Never gonna see the day light 😢<br> no remorse no conscience no dearness ! Nothing at all ! It’s shocking how he deal with killing an innocent unarmed underage kid just listening his favorite music 😭 and about Rhonda just respect ! She is a honorable woman !

Poor innocent kid , RIP ! This sick monster who killed you unfairly is not capable of hurting more innocent people, he is rotting in jail for the rest of his life ! Never gonna see the day light 😢
 no remorse no conscience no dearness ! Nothing at all ! It’s shocking how he deal with killing an innocent unarmed underage kid just listening his favorite music 😭 and about Rhonda just respect ! She is a honorable woman !


Little man (nothing to do with physical size) spent his whole life being small (listen to his wheedy voice), as he was, until in one moment he found an excuse to use the gun to make himself feel big.

But it didn't make him big. It just made him a small, dangerous man with a gun, who was becoming even smaller.
Being dangerous isn't big, it is, actually, the opposite.


What I don’t understand is that the detective says “I can’t shoot someone because I THINK they have a gun, despite officers killing people all the time because they THINK they have a gun” sounds a little odd to me


Karen got mad and shot a kid end of a story


okay did the kid open the door because unfortunately them's definitely fightin' words...

be real you never heard a kid 'i'll f*in k!ll that ninja bro - he step to me i'll be a listener of rap music... which just got turned down.'


"9mm or .45 it was a large caliber " bruh


“I don’t like that thug music.” <b>Proceeds to pull out his glock.</b>

“I don’t like that thug music.” *Proceeds to pull out his glock.*


Is it a coincidence that it's a black police officer doing the interrogation? I have a feeling the suspect didn't like that part.


every day that I’m alive Ima ride wit this stick<br>-21 savage

every day that I’m alive Ima ride wit this stick
-21 savage


These hot shots all studied at the George Zimmerman school for storytelling


he was sitting there thinking 'fuuuuuck'


This is why A. You should have proper training to own a gun and B. You shouldn’t point a gun at someone you don’t intend to kill. What a sick boomer fuq!


i cant remember if i've watched this one


the song that was playing  was Beef by lil Reese when this Dunn told them to turn it off


I am still so dumbfounded that he could shoot 10 shots at some kids for living their life and still think he is a victim. Disgusting

And it's hard to understand why if he didn't feel severely threatened? In that case he ought to have tried it before and gotten in trouble before.

@Termite Bacon Any interaction with this race is dangerous. Your "friend" will draw others in who will scope out your place and eventually rob you. This is a common occurrence. When you let your guard down around these creatures, or project your sense of morals and decency on them, you might be making a fatal mistake. Yes, some bees don`t sting, but I dare you to kick the hive. But bees only sting in self defense. These creatures will destroy you out of pure animal instinct, envy, and blind hatred.

@BAN EVERYTHING! Here's an idea: maybe save your hatred for the specific people that have harmed you, not the entire race.

@Termite Bacon Tell us how great Trayvon was. I`m sure you defended him too...

@VC Islander I`ve been attacked by gangs, robbed, carjacked and kidnapped....on and on....and they say I hate for no reason. If I go into detail YouTube simply deletes my comment. The violence and hatred directed at whites is effectively covered up.

@Andrew Mahon they won't, they're cowards

this is exactly what i felt the whole time

<b>Peyton Farrell</b> aight so the guy calling black kids vile creatures and wishing death on them is okay but me wanting a racist to get beat up is so wrong. Sorry but I think I’m definitely better than someone wishing death on “vile creatures”. Just admit you’re racist like that other guy and move on

*Peyton Farrell* aight so the guy calling black kids vile creatures and wishing death on them is okay but me wanting a racist to get beat up is so wrong. Sorry but I think I’m definitely better than someone wishing death on “vile creatures”. Just admit you’re racist like that other guy and move on

Andrew Mahon so you're admitting that you're no better. well
i guess i agree.

*Andrew Mahon* so you're admitting that you're no better. well
i guess i agree.

Peyton Farrell never said I was in the right for saying what I said but sure whatever you say <b>peyton</b>

Peyton Farrell never said I was in the right for saying what I said but sure whatever you say *peyton*

blew that attempt at a moral high ground, didn't ya <b>Andrew</b>

blew that attempt at a moral high ground, didn't ya *Andrew*

This is why I told my teens to be cordial with their elders. So many older men especially are hateful to young men. I have heard older ladies call teen girls whores because of their fashion statement s. Short or those tight fitting clothes & how dare these women use that language around kids ! I instructed my kids to be helpful but careful ,feel the elderly out a bit as some have dementia & guns. Guys have told my son's computers are stupid &  they are gay for going to college & getting a PhD they should work a Man's job like the military or construction. 😆 Beware of Crazy old people with guns !

Kids blast their music. It’s just part of adolescence and young adulthood. I hate to say it but I think this is really about race. Because I can’t help but wonder if he would’ve reacted like this if the kids were white.

BAN EVERYTHING!  Sooo much hate in your heart? Too bad there is no medicine for that..

@BAN EVERYTHING! "Vile creatures" yeah buddy, it's totally them that's the problem. Not you or him.

Thugs threatened the wrong guy. I live around these vile creatures and know exactly what happened. Too bad he didn`t get them all.

Agreed, some people think their way is all the matters. Pure evil.


I REALLY feel like Rhonda was abused on a regular basis by this man. She was clearly terrified of him that night, she was afraid to say anything to him so she kept quiet- she even said she didn't want to upset him, so I bet his anger is often out of control- and then she was afraid to talk about it on the way home so she was silent as he continually lovebombed her to try to manipulate her into backing him up because he knew they'd both be found and questioned soon. She hesitated and was even afraid to say to the investigator that she was thinking "how could he do something so stupid" because she generally isn't able to voice thoughts like this about him. His abuse is evident all over her, and I hope she's able to find strength in herself and move on from him. He's a covertly abusive monster.

Yes I think she was afraid of this controlling narcissistic sociopath. Glad he will never get out.

Yeah, I think you're right. She sounded terrified.

U could see her shaking as she is testifying she was so scared she was going to say something to upset him just in the courtroom where he can't get to her and she is scared

I was going to state exactly this. A guy who open fires at a car full of KIDS listening to music loudly has MAJOR anger issues. His reaction was so over the top it's insane. Living with him would be hell. You'd have to walk on egg shells all the time. To those who are familiar with narcissists like this it's clear to see how abusive he is.

My impression is that they are two very sheltered people who rarely, if ever, had any trouble with the law until he stupidly dropped this bombshell that destroyed and devastated so many lives.  Watching this makes my heart break for the family and loved ones of of those poor kids and their friend who was murdered. And it breaks my heart to see Rhonda bravely doing the right thing by testifying and refuting his bogus claim that he told her he thought those kids were brandishing a gun.  I'm just glad she was only with that guy for 4 years--a long time, sure, but still short enough that she can move on and put this dark chapter of her life behind her.  If only the same could be said of the victim and his friends.

Yeah definitely, I thought this too but I think when she hesitated and asked if she should be talking about what she was thinking it's probably because she was told to just state the facts in the interview. It seems like it was based on something the detective said earlier if you listen closely to how he replies. At first he absently replies then he seems to remember something and tells her to tell him everything.

agree, she was probably worried he'd shoot her too if she showed any signs of outrage at what he did.

Wow good insight I didnt think of that. It definitely makes sense.

Idk about abused.... Maybe she was terrified by learning that her husband had the capacity to kill people without guilt.

this is reminding me of battered woman syndrome which idek how relevant that is these days or in this situation. but just that conversation where he calls her from prison is a prime example of his manipulation and her deescalation. she clearly disagrees with him when she says, let's not talk about this anymore.

A neighbor said that Dunn's ex-wives had told him the guy was violently abusive to them.

Super appreciate this comment! I felt all of this but couldn't put it into words, so thank you. I think she's lucky he didn't kill her on the drive back or at the hotel that night.

That’s very perceptive of you to spot. Thank you for adding this point of view

well, obviously sdhe don't have that problem anymore, no reason to worry.


If your snivelling and have no tears then I don't trust you at all.


Only past the phone call and I quickly get the sense he's the kind of guy who pushes people's buttons till they flip out so he can justified in his response.

Yeah. I knew a girl like that. Then when I pushed her buttons (after she did that to me 5 times) she got offended. Hahahahaha they never like it when the tables are turned


Respect to the fiancée for being honest.

She's my hero. It's hard to do the right thing and choose to stand up for truth and justice when your loved ones are on the wrong side of it.

I'm sure she's a wonderful person with a kind heart. It's a shame for her that she had to be part of this tragedy. But lucky for the rest of us that there was a good person like her there to tell the truth of what happened.


imagine how traumatized these teenagers must have been to watch their own friend get shot in the same car

he bled to death, how traumatizing is that


If it wasn't for the kid dying, this would almost be laughable. He's using all the slang he's ever heard on Netflix. Thank God for honest witnesses and true justice.

He's a cold blooded killer, if he didn't get caught he would've killed again. How could you eat normally after killing a kid? I think he should've gotten the death penalty.

@XaldinX i think they meant that IF michael said anything that was true, it would still be murder. the car was fleeing and no longer a threat. "suppression fire to keep their heads down" is murder

Mshojat he literally lied about multiple things in his interrogation are u like willing ignorant??

steph said i thought when he said that it sounded weird like something the bully would say in it 🤣

This guy IS a hateful racist, murderer with zero remorse.    The part overshadowed in this story is a teenaged boy that was murdered and the horror his family and friends have been put through. Condolences and prayers for them.

Mshojat when he was describing what they apparently said (which apparently isn’t what they actually said) and was just spewing out “fuck that bitch I’m gonna kill the bitch”... I thought maybe they meant that as “slang”.

@Mshojat I think the phrase "talking all that jazz" would make better sense to you on this one.

"All that slang" could have been actually used in the event.  Also he hardly mentioned any slang  at all as far as I recall; I only heard him say one slang word "cracker".<br>It's pointless since even if everything he said was true aside from the weapon it would still be murder.

"All that slang" could have been actually used in the event.  Also he hardly mentioned any slang  at all as far as I recall; I only heard him say one slang word "cracker".
It's pointless since even if everything he said was true aside from the weapon it would still be murder.


Good God, when he said he didn’t want to cause the police “a sleepless night” - my mouth dropped open. Someone just died over loud music - and he is acting like nothing happened... wow...

They turned the music down TWICE!!!!! It baffles me how much credit people give this psycho... his poor fiancee


Is it possible that they hid the gun they disposed of the gun

No chance, cause it seems the car was immediately apprehended for evidence. Moreover I don't think they were so worried about the potential gun as much as their best friend bleeding out beside them. Also- if they had a gun why didn't they shoot back? The kids aren't to blame here.


This man was just incredibly racist and wanted an excuse to kill someone. I read those letters linked in the description and hoo boy. He was MESSED UP.

Also thank you to everyone who gave me all the likes!

@lady hotep According to one of his neighbors, yes.

@lady hotep yeah I saw this in another comment, did you see how he was talking to a white cop and when they asked him how he pointed the gun the night of the event he did the example pointing towards the black cop?

@Hotties Only I wonder what he thought of the Black detective 🤔

@C Cannon He also tried to hire a hitman to kill someone.

@Chun Chung Chau Ignore that dude. He's a troll.

Derek Dan Hmmm...I agree we need to be careful about accusing someone of being a racist given the seriousness of the allegation, but I guess what’s biting at me with these scenarios is simply the fact that exploring counterfactuals (eg would he have done the same thing had the kids been white or Asian?) just seems irrelevant.

Because what we’re dealing with here is an asymmetry of information: We DO know how he reacts to perceived threats coming from a member of a race (Jordan). The issue being whether we can validly infer from this a negative disposition he has against said race.

What you’re suggesting is that the inference can only be drawn if the asymmetry is corrected or if the negative disposition obtains in all possible worlds to the exclusion of a similar disposition against other races. But I disagree. I think this is asking too much because for one, the asymmetry will always be there: You can be racist against more than one race. If you’re racist against blacks chances are you’ll find reason to hate other races too. So it seems in order to answer the question “Was Dunn being racist?” under your paradigm, there’ll be an infinite regress where we demand more and more counterfactuals to be brought up until we are PERFECTLY CERTAIN, or it is a logical impossibility that someone is or is not a racist. Notwithstanding that many of these counterfactuals can never occur, which means these are impossible questions with no answers but mere speculation, thinking like this leads to the inevitable conclusion that NO ONE can be safely called a racist, no matter their actions. This cannot be right.

I think the relevant circumstances to be considered here must assume the following:

(1) The shooter is white
(2) The unarmed victim is black
(3) The alleged reason for shooting is because of a perceived mortal threat

In thinking about the validity of an inference of racial motive we can consider different events which do not contradict these established premises, eg whether the white shooter has or doesn’t have black friends, or has a rocky or cordial history with members of the black community etc etc. But to the point where you alter any of the premises, say, consider what would have happened had (2) been false, you’re essentially considering a situation VERY different from what we’re contending with here, with its own set of unique considerations.

For example, if we think about what would’ve happened had the victims been Asian, given the form of racism Asians face is generally speaking less overt and more “it’s a joke but not really”, the fact that Dunn decides to kill or spare the would-be Asian victims would have less bearing over whether racism can be inferred from the act, compared to the situation here where premises (1) and (2) are simultaneously true. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say when a white man gets off from killing an unarmed black teen in the US, an inference of racism must be much stronger and more reasonable than in analogous instances of inter-racial violence between different races, where the motive can range from racism to insanity.

It’s similar to how certain “scientists” write books about blacks on average having lower IQ only to claim that they’re not racist because it’s just an empirical conclusion ~~ True as that may be, you can’t not question the decision to target blacks specifically in these books because the history of black enslavement and deprivation (both material and intellectual) is not something you can just overlook. Similarly when Asians are offended by bad jokes, you can’t just say “oh but racist jokes can be made about just anyone” because the weight of an act as evidence in deciding whether racism is a motive is contextual. And in the context of gun violence, the presumption, imo, is absolutely in favor of racism.

I apologize if I come off as being overly complicating but given the seriousness of the subject matter I feel I can only do justice by sketching out why it’s NOT UNREASONABLE to assume racism, or at least it’d be very hard for someone in Dunn’s position to claim he’s not a racist - even without the added info such as the letters which surfaced after the trial - when we’re talking about shooting specifically between blacks and whites in the US. And this presumption, while defeasible by evidence - is not just a product of “woke” culture. It’s grounded in rationality and cannot simply be displaced by remote counterfactuals.

@Chun Chung Chauwe're obviously looking at from different perspectives. The same could've happen with a white kid or an Asian kid. You can also assume a white, Indian, native American  or Asian kid etc. is a "mortal threat" you don't have to be racist to assume that. It could be something you do with any human being. Obviously in this case, seems racism definitely played a part. The only thing I'm saying is that a shooting between two opposite races doesn't automatically mean racism. That would be ridiculous to assume, especially if you believe we are part of the same human race, color doesn't matter. That's why its important to find evidence someone is racist before calling them racist. In this case there is definitely evidence with everything he said and wrote.

@Derek Dan context matters, the context is: they were black and he’s racist. There is literally no reason for him to feel like his life is at risk. And I don’t think you’re getting it, this wouldn’t have happened if they were white

Derek Dan To automatically associate a black kid coming at you with a mortal threat is an expression of racist beliefs. So even at his best, assuming he’s telling the truth and honest in his beliefs, Dunns’s a racist. This is with or without him being a “horrible crazy man” who shoots to kill.

@Hotties Only how was what you just described racist? Is it racist to lie and make people look bad when they are innocent? I would say that's just evil. Those actions only only sound like someone who's irresponsible and really wanted to shoot people. Just because they happen to be different skin colors doesn't mean its automatically racist. Context matters. In this case, this guy is crazy, and there evidence to back up this was also racially motivated.

@Derek Dan but even before reading the letters it’s clear that he’s racist, this man was trying to make those kids sound like they were and actual threat when it’s clear that they weren’t, ESPECIALLY when he said that they pulled out a gun. Try to be more critical the next time and not play blind

@Derek Dan is it a big deal tho? Being racist comes with basically no repercussions.

I always want evidence before calling someone a racist, no matter who--since that's a big deal. because the shooting itself wasn't proof he was racist,  it just proved he was a horrible crazy man. <br>But I just read those letters you linked and yup. He seems pretty racist. Thanks for sharing man. The other people who are skeptical of his Dunns racism should read those letters too.

I always want evidence before calling someone a racist, no matter who--since that's a big deal. because the shooting itself wasn't proof he was racist,  it just proved he was a horrible crazy man.
But I just read those letters you linked and yup. He seems pretty racist. Thanks for sharing man. The other people who are skeptical of his Dunns racism should read those letters too.

@Thælo Fox thank you for linking those! Though I have to say, I’m absolutely repulsed after reading them. What an undeniable monster.

@Jonelle Daniels Yeah, especially @The Devil

You should hear what he did to his ex-wives.

@Maecy don’t even bother replying to the “not racist” people. Literally it’s in their faces at this point

@Bubbles gg “the more I am exposed to these people, the more prejudiced against them I become.”

did you read it the letters?

@Gecks There's only two links in the description and they're both to other Youtube channels, not any letters.

Pigwidgeon they are linked in the description of the video


He’s definitely proud that he shot, as it was done so purposefully and maliciously,  and doesn’t feel any guilt, and is even complimenting his gun handling skills. However he doesn’t want to deal with consequences.

@Gob Sauce I’m glad that you do that but I wouldn’t let people like this discourage you. You clearly show that you wouldn’t just shoot like this dude. The difference between you and this guy is one person is hoping for this moment while another dreads it.

I've been shooting all my life, and just recently got my License to Carry. I've had range sessions where I do something that I find extraordinary for me and I'm genuinely proud of my shots. I'm genuinely afraid this might be me in the future. I'm afraid there may be an altercation where I use my firearm in self defense, and am proud of it. Even with my LTC, I refuse to carry anything outside of range sessions.


I don't know how Michael Dunn made it to his forties without murdering someone if this is all the provocation it took for him to murder.

@Jim Beans if it comes with a #, it’s probably already too late.

@Odin Borsson I like how you never replied to me but replied to everyone else’s no backbone or no backup 😂

@M.J.E. He doesn’t have to list everything he finds surprising about this case in a comment. It looks like you’re just searching for a reason to be offended

@M.J.E. he also never mentioned anything about how dolphins sleep with one eye open. Tells me everything i need to know about him

@Odin Borsson I mean you can’t say that wasn’t a factor here

@Kirsty~Welsh Amethyst Girl You have no evidence to assume that. Could just as well be that this is when he snapped. Good thing you're not in law enforcement.

Totally agree he must of had bouts of violence before this

Just reading the responses to this single comment shows you how fucked up USA is ...

Maybe he didn't make it.  Just got away with it before.

Give this man his victim card he wants to have a cry for himself innrelation to someone else dying.

@DownFromTheREEEfters you’re seriously trying to argue that because black on black crime exists, THIS crime wasn’t racist? He repeatedly called a car full of underaged black boys “thugs” for having loud music. I can’t even begin to count all of the things that went over your head just in that one comment.

I'm surprised I can go a day on the Internet without gouging my eyes out. I wish people would stop trying to make some kind of a point all of the time.

@suri curian She’s actually half black, half white.

Cranky Older men especially grandpas have lesser patience

tick tock, probs a helluva alot more out there.

@Christian Loves Sonic the Hedgehog mans really just said he has a gf in youtube comments I’m DEAD 💀💀

@Ulysses Farr You have two subscribers. That number must also be your IQ.

@Odin Borsson No. They're implying Mike is racist. Jesus christ people, use your brain.

@M.J.E. how are you so sure he finds it exceedingly common? What's that tell you?

@M.J.E. maybe he did think this but didn’t state it? All we are saying is micheal was ready to kill, the other dude brought up a completely unrelated topic.

@Odin Borsson no you implied that , context matters . This was a hate crime in my opinion dealing with an white and black person .  Not Asian , Hispanic so therefore why are you trying to down play what’s happening to the black community it’s cultural insensitive  , your basically saying black people aren’t the only race deal with racism that’s downplaying another’s  experience

@DownFromTheREEEfters Kevin found it surprising that dunn made it to his 40s but didn't find it surprising that a black teen got shot. Tells you something. I never said anything about big threats

@M.J.E. I have read this three times and have no clue what point you are trying to make.  Either make a point or don't.

yet you find it exceedingly common that a black 17 year old caught a bullet? Whats that tell you?


Didn't ask how his wife was, during the call. Claimed he was the victim. His wife severely enables him (presumably through fear) Such a sweetheart. She's lucky to not have him around..

Well at the beginning he said he was calling her right back so I'd assume they had just ran out of time and he called her right back.

@TRUTHSPEAKER wow... You have no idea what you're saying. For an account called "TRUTHSPEAKER" you just lied. The video broke down how he was lying about what he saw and what he did and how he did it. The only thing those kids were guilty of was being teenagers. They weren't thugs.

Not at all, she didn't enable him. Shes was going through a lot and didn't want to fight with him. Also everyone knows that  those calls are recorded, was she suppose to say, Mike you bastard you killed that kid for no reason?


It's weird hearing cops say you can't just shoot someone because you thought they had a weapon...

@Chase Morris most drugdealers here are not armed and it does not follow that drugs=having a gun

@cyndi vedock they are supposed to be professionals.

@titus kriswanto lol, american police shoots anyone whenever maybe just for kicks or having a bad mood and then just keeps on being a free non-convicted murderer cop. There is mountains of evidence supporting this available.

@StrawberryNinja Nibbles They were uniformed officers what are you going on about

@Jean Hunter yes but they were officers in plain clothes  & he said he never heard themselves announce themselves as police forcing entry. <br>How could anyone NOT think those were intruders in your home meaning to do harm??

@Jean Hunter yes but they were officers in plain clothes  & he said he never heard themselves announce themselves as police forcing entry.
How could anyone NOT think those were intruders in your home meaning to do harm??

@kay mulani they were there because the police thought her boyfriend was getting drugs delivered to his house so under reasonable suspicion they assumed he had a gun but they shouldn’t have shot if they didn’t see one

@cyndi vedock I was in the military.  Bottom line is id do my job to the best of my ability.  I've been in situations where I had to deal with dudes with guns.  I held it down as a soldier...so no excuses...

I was thinking the same, I guess it doesn’t apply to cops

Police officers have an incredibly dangerous job and deal with the worst and most violent of humanity on a daily basis. Yes they are afforded more leeway than us, otherwise they would all be dead. Mistakes happen sometimes and they are tragic but they are in no way the norm for most police officers. And for those arguing about the breonna shooting..yes there was a weapon that was fired at police but it was a stupid no knock raid so the boyfriend thought he was protecting his family. I would've done the same. This is why no knock raids should not be a thing unless its for a serial killer or something. If anyone wants to change that you have to go to the politicians that make those laws.

@titus kriswanto That rock you're living under must be amazing.  Philando Castille, Johnathon Pierce and Daniel Shaver....thats just off the top of my head.

Wake Up.

nope,police didn't shoot someone because they "thought" they had a weapon,but they shoot if they are sure that the suspect had a weapon and threatening their lives.

I had the same exact thought. They murder people all the time because they "think" they have a weapon.

You ain't lying lol. It's pretty sad. Not having a weapon and having your hands up won't always help you, they might shoot your ass anyway and then claim they "thought" you had a gun. It's happening plenty of time before and I'm sure it'll keep on happening.

I was thinking the same thing, if everything was the same except he was off duty and had a badge, he’d probably get a paid suspension for an internal investigation then found not guilty.

@anddudewaslike Racists say anything to defend other racists! Lol

@kay mulani sis I wouldn’t even bother with these people, I’m sorry for their lack of empathy and understanding of what this world is

@Malk Von Batshit your analogy is so stupid as to not even warrant discussion. The only reason they aren’t pinning charges on him is because the evidence is irrefutable.  They already TRIED to nail him for it and failed.

@kay mulani The boyfriend doesn't even dispute that he had shot the officer and then the return fire came at him.

Jean Hunter sir or ma’am ik you did not just lie like that, no way shape or form they should have been shooting at anyone in that house

@kay mulani I mean the police had breached the door and one was immediately shot. So yeah they had a pretty good reason to assume a weapon was involved.

I think this person said that because whats going on in the world, for example brianna taylor and the police THOUGHT someone had a weapon and so shot

I mean I think they’re doubting that he thought that at all during it. Considering there wasn’t even anything that resembled a gun nearby that he could point to.

Yeah.  <b>We</b> can’t.  But us normal civilians don’t enjoy the privileges they do

Yeah.  *We* can’t.  But us normal civilians don’t enjoy the privileges they do


Why do I feel like I'm watching a whole ass documentary? Very well done. I can't wait to watch your other videos.


still can’t believe this content is free

Yeah, the kid he killed wasn't real to him.

@hydro I thought this was the same person

it's not free.... somebody died so that you can have this content.

@Kevin calm down there ladiesman, this is a jcs video not tinder

@Vlad Impaler YouTube  doesn't work like that LMAOOOOO

@Vlad Impaler it is nice that i get all the content on youtube for 10.00 a month ad free. just 10 years ago that was almost unheard of

Gretchen ok cashapp him then if it bothers you

When the product is free, YOU are the product. Advertisers have every intention of making their money back from you one way or another. Nothing is free in this world.

I mean you are spending time watching it.

I can't believe this content is available.

@Vlad Impaler it is free for us, just because it generates money doesnt mean it isnt free

@Mas A I’ll never be bored, thanks! I watch Bailey Sarian and Kendall Rae. Bailey is a riot but sincere. Like Mike. Nancy Grace appeared on her show a few months back. Kendall is also caring and kind and always doing fundraisers for crime victims and organizations. In case you want to check them out 😊

i know! and commercials with the most brain killing music every minute and a half too!!

@Mas A Funny! I found his channel yesterday and subscribed 😊 Now I can binge watch! Thank you so much!

@Mas A I’m subscribed to That Chapter, haven’t heard of the other 2 but will check out, thanks 😊

@hydro audit the audit is great. its more in-the-field body camera coverage than interrogation coverage. 10/10 though.

It’s not free, one must endure countless ads or pay extra

Because if it was paid I guarantee you they would have a PEAK viewer count of 50 people.

@Sir Noba I know it cracks me up how many people want others to work for free... Cuz of course the commenters go to work day in and day out and work 40 hours every week for free. The only ones who greedily ask to get paid for working are YouTubers. 😂😂

@Vlad Impaler We're not suckers.  It's how everything works - TV, radio, newspapers, YouTube, Facebook.  People make content.  They sell ads to make money.  We get to watch for free.  Everybody wins.

@hydro Also 'That Chapter' 'Fact Faction' and 'Police Activity' let me know if you like those channels please.

This is YouTube not your onlyfans brah 👍

@Vlad Impaler "It's not free no one does anything for free", there is a difference between these two statements, it's free to us because we're not paying for it, but they still earn revenue from us viewing their material on this platform thus they still have motivation to produce their content, everyone is aware of this and for you to call us suckers in light of the fact that both parties are reaping a benefit from the content that they produce and the viewership we provide is just cynical for no reason.

Niamh Brooke this is monetised, and making money!

@artemis You pay with your time watching

@Vlad Impaler rich?? You’re joking right? You obviously have no idea how much money YT video’s make.

@Vlad Impaler  it's free because we're not paying for it, so what if they get revenue, they worked hard to edit and make this video.

I wouldn't be surprised if something showed up on my bank statement lmao

You should check out Audit the Audit what they do is somewhat similar to this


There’s always that one family member that ruins family gatherings

@mydemonswontleavemealone as a biracial person I find this offensive. Maybe he doesn’t fit in because he can tell the people around him are judging due to the color of his skin.

Tiara I think he meant not the dad of the groom

@David just bc you're someone's uncle doesn't mean you can't be a dad too

The saddest part is he ruined a 17 year olds whole life! Who knows what he could have achieved in his life. RIP JORDAN

In most families its the drunk uncle with racist remarks, not the dad xD


"I never been so scared in my life!"<br>*leaves the scene, goes back to the hotel room, orders a pizza and not call the police *

"I never been so scared in my life!"
*leaves the scene, goes back to the hotel room, orders a pizza and not call the police *

@Mike Stein He pulled up next to them and chose to sit there to begin with

haha funny you said that... im innocent as fuk whenever i win like 20-300$ im like fk it im up :) let's order some pizza lol

He was so scared of them he demanded they turn down the music

It sounds fine to me, not so reasonable but fine, what does make me understand he is lying is that the scene sounds just stupid

He also made himself another drink and walked the dog.

Confident enough to walk the dog first thing and without a gun. Wow


“I didn’t know I was being charged with murder... that sucks” bro lmaoooo

Quote is at 47:54 for anyone who wants to go to it

@Buchi Chu of course he should.. he still has 3 slices of pizza left in his fridge.. pizza is obviously by far more important than some dumb murder.

He saw his freedom get up and walk out the door. His girlfriend was probably already with another man in the room he paid for. The dog was even glad he was gone for good.

@O b s c u r e ? he did not only he did he actually woke up and saw it on the news and that's when they decided to go home so yes he knew

Guess he's a more of a glass half-full guy...

Not that funny, actually.  I feel too bad for the person who died.  Many others could have died, too.

@Chunky soup thx omg:D creepy art is my vibe i do mainly paintings and sculptures

Izabella Podowski it's really good! suuupeer creepy

@Chunky soup I drew it myself! feeling complimented lol

Izabella Podowski your profile picture deeply terrifies me

@Izabella Podowski oh I thought you were referencing a video haha

@Jordan Martens i don't own tik tok, i just know how to vibe. 2020 is prime example of negative vibes

@Izabella Podowski does 2020 pass the vibe check?? (The one time I watched tiktok, please don't tell anyone)

@Jordan Martens it's a negative vibe bro!

No kidding the killer is a pathetic man.

Buchi Chu Dude was just pissed he was gonna miss his expensive b&b


THAT guy is only 45? <br>Hatred, alcohol abuse, and racist paranoia really do a number on the body.

THAT guy is only 45?
Hatred, alcohol abuse, and racist paranoia really do a number on the body.

You should see Michael Paul Adams (guy who killed Elijah Al-Amin for loud music). He's 27, but looks 47

@socillizt4life OHHHH well i mean my statement still stand THUG MUSIC SHLAPPSSSS

Jesus I'm sixty and don't look anywhere near as bad. Playing drums keeps you young.

eminem used drugs and alcohol and hes 48 and looks young, its just the type of ur body

his girlfriend looked really old for being 45 as well.

This man was obviously hugely judgemental about kids he had never met,  what a self entitled boomer, thinking he is a victim too.

@brugdabidbrug I was not claiming some forms of hip hop aren’t or shouldn’t be classified as “THUG Muzak”,certain artists self define themselves as thug/street music,that’s a fact.I was making the assumption that the couple weren’t using their lil code “THUG music” in that car that night,that’s only needed infront of police or a jury & camera to the world,everybody should know that Michael ‘fkknn’ Dunn doesn’t use the term ”thug  music” behind closed doors,that would be “n****r(with a hard R) music”,that was my point,I was not claiming some MCs don’t play(or live) up to the thug image

It's funny. In my line of work I deal with the homeless mostly, but also with many addicts and ex offenders. Doing hefty amounts of drugs and alcohol will age you certainly. But I have to say, over time I have come to believe that evil ages a person too. To be clear I am not saying my clients are all bad people. But just that the ones who are, or who have done significantly bad things repeatedly, always look haggard. Worn thin in a way. Even the ones who had wealthy backgrounds ect. What goes on in the mind can affect the body I guess...

@Alejandro Lazarte I hate how race is always given as the reason for x thing happening(correlation isn't causation), but race played a huge factor here. "I was expecting all of em to come out of the car and attack me". He acknowledged and mentioned how the other guys that talked to him were friendly/nice and how the one guy was violent, but then insists that quote^. Not to say that race is the primary reason--he clearly has something else wrong with him. Learning you have just killed a child(or person)of any race should devastate you, where here he brags about it.

@socillizt4life lmaoooo bro i can guarantee that some music sounds like thug music and it’s mostly rap lmaooo you literally can’t lie that it do and no CAP IT FUCKING SLAPSSSSS

No it’s just good old laziness & over eating.That’s what a lazy mid forties man looks like

@Alejandro Lazarte Don't have to. It could be a passive thought in his mind. Consciously he doesn't care about someone's race, subconsciously he does.

4 black kids in a truck, listening to, quote, "thug" music, listening to it at a loud volume, immediately goes to them having a gun rather than some type of knife of some kind.

It sounds like racial stereotypes he may have been influenced by in the past.

But what he says should not be evidence that he is, but his choice of words can lead people to that conclusion.

@Alejandro Lazarte Didn’t have to.  It’s quite obvious from the very beginning of the video when he wife recalled his comments about “thug music.” Plenty of cues littered around.

@ALi Finally someone who gets it. You are smarter than 99.9% of the people commenting on this video.

Just because the two parties are different races doesn't mean its a racist crime. I highly doubt you'd say the same had races been reversed

Nice of you to just assume racism because you don't like the shooters race.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's a racist, but I'm at 45 min in and he hasn't mentioned the race of the kids not once

@Stony Man idk man I think it might...when was the last time you saw a really hot racist?

Don’t think being racist increases the rate you age but ok

Hey relax I abuse alcohol and I’m not gandolf

Hey relax I abuse alcohol and I’m not gandolf

And don’t forget this really was a racist attack

ikr? I´m 45 and that guy looks almost as old as my father.

You’re right, I’m 50 and pass for 33. He looks like my father’s age. Sometimes it’s good genetics but often it’s like you said- every day is a bottle of rum and ever use is limited to flip flops like he’s going to Cocomo. Well, going to the Pen now.

He's 45?? I didn't think he was my age he looks a lot older

I know people his age or possibly older that look younger than him
Lmao

I know people his age or possibly older that *look younger than him*
Lmao

I’m 46, and I honestly thought this guy was in his 60’s.

the tea is hot and steamy just the way i like it 🫖

@I'm Going Supersonic no the guy looks AS OLD as my add, like he looks older. My dad is in his early 60s

45??Shit I'm 44,father of my kids 62,my dad's 61 & he looks older than both of them & looks like he could be my father...Lack of things like sincere charisma,body language etc.(body mass index too I guess) makes him look a lot older but biggest turn off is his personality.That woman of his deserves so much better.Cannot believe he just killed a kid over🤷🏼♀ & show no remorse whatsoever🤦🏼♀.90 yrs.in prison,well done & very much deserved mate.No time for hatery,literally do despice him tho, hats off👒

my dad's his age and he looks like he could be my grandpa!

No way, I'm 45 and i dont look like that. he looks like he's near my mother's age.

@halatiny dude same he looks as old as my dad <br>L

@halatiny dude same he looks as old as my dad
L


I feel so bad for Rhonda, you can hear her heart break when she says  "Pop, pop, pop" at 7:40

@jordy hargrove YESSSS, WOMEN KNOW THE STRUGGLE. totally agree.

jordy hargrove ...it does and has had a place in the world for millennia. It’s what has kept us alive this long.

i wish feminine energy had a chance in this world. Such beauty a woman can share


That's just insane. Another case where a person could not mind his business. Like, he could have moved his car, went inside the store, etc. to get away from the music. Just wow.

He could have rolled his windows up and blasted his own music to drown them out. I've done it plenty of times at red lights when someone pulls up next to me blaring music.

Adolf Stallin how did he stand his ground when he was the aggressor. Troll comment

@Adolf Stallin he killed a teenager. That's not standing your ground, that's him being a racist murderer.

The unfortunate and disturbing truth is he wanted to use his gun.. at least in my opinion

Alternatively (now this might sound crazy I’m sure but bare with me here), he could have just sat there for 5 minutes and put up with it, peacefully minding his own god damn business


Why in her interrogation is she pixelated but you then show her in court clear as day? Anyway, this woman seems perfect, she says "I could see he was upset so I kept my feelings to myself..." - I wish my girl would keep her feelings to herself when I'm upset!

Difference sources do the censoring, he probably found the footage like that


imagine prematurely losing ur 17 yr old child over loud music and then having to listen to the bs that ur child’s murderer makes up in court

@Franz Borow it's a very small blessing disguised as a horrible curse, cause all this bullshit is falling on deaf ears and all it means is that he will 110% be locked up for the rest of his life

Next kid gonna have better taste for sure.

@Michael Sundarev Yes, Dunn's parents should've taught him not to be a thug

then teach your child not to be thug and all will be ok. I impressed there was an actual dad.

The worst part, Lucy had trouble having kids. Having Jordan was an extremely rare chance for her and Ron.

His mother is now a U.S. congressional representative! So sad she had to go through this.

i think everyone who has lost a child to violence has had to listen to some horribly insulting BS story when the attacker goes to court.  It's the final disrespect in this sad journey.

If I were that child’s father, I’d tear the murderer apart right in the court & sit the life sentence for it.

I’m surprised the dad was able to keep his composure.


This man had the nerve to say “I’m the victim”. He was acting tough because he knew he had a gun. He deserves to be in jail..

And.., You coukd tell Thst his fiancé saw right through him.  Smart young woman..

@Beeper He's trying to convince himself as well, but he clearly doesn't feel anything but fear of consequences

I highly doubt he actually feels like a victim. To me it comes across more like he’s just saying it to convince everyone else.


Rip Jordan. This is absolutely tragic, what a terrible loss so young.


The victim’s mom became a US congresswoman recently.

The victim’s mom became a US congresswoman recently.

@Heyons Lucy McBath, she flipped a suburban Georgian district

@Doug Rogan not the fact that USA, one of the only countries where almost everyone can carry, have the most shootings in the world? Or the fact that the US had the most mass shootings ever recorded last year? Guns should be banned, and you know it

Bailey if that’s the case then how come so many psychos are able to purchase guns legally !? And not just a hand gun but fully automatic weapons used for military combat! Would never and has never happened in my country yet happens every year in the states. Nothing you gun loving maniacs say will ever change my mind.

@Luca Brasi doesn't the doc say that the victim was an only child though?

@Fetero That's probably a Russian troll. Ignore it

@Fetero That's probably a Russian troll. Ignore it

Kamil C. And tell that to the hundreds of parents who lost their children to school shootings. In my country we have very strict gun laws. Zero school shootings. 🤔🤔

Kamil C. People wouldn’t need guns to save their lives if there weren’t so many guns. Your argument is invalid.

@SuperAussieOi Did you consider how many lives are saved by the guns you hate so much? On average 2-3mln self-defense uses per year in US. Guns save way more inocent lives than they take. Your argument is invalid.

Alexander Zephyrus Gee, would you sacrifice a child to get elected? What would that say about you?

Yeah I heard she wants to help bring in stricter gun laws. That’s extremely courageous especially in Florida. America is fucked when it comes to gun control and sadly it probably won’t ever change no matter how many innocent people are killed

Dafuk is up with all the Nikki's on this comment?

Dafuk is up with all the Nikki's on this comment?

@FactsOverFeelings Matter I'm a democrat and I don't want guns taken away at all. you're just sensitive

@Kieren Moore Yup. It was good till they started talking about the lady benefiting from her son's death, Hitler, gun control, politics. Not the place for such crap.<br>Oh, and if you disagree with them, you're whining. Gotta love that line. It's immature and petty.

@Kieren Moore Yup. It was good till they started talking about the lady benefiting from her son's death, Hitler, gun control, politics. Not the place for such crap.
Oh, and if you disagree with them, you're whining. Gotta love that line. It's immature and petty.

@FactsOverFeelings Matter yeah these people get the point they're just pretending like they don't

@Delovely 1 the only "wrong information" I see is campaigning on gun control just because you had 2 sons who wouldn't stay off the street.

FactsOverFeelings Matter Your feelings are showing.

FactsOverFeelings Matter Your feelings are showing.

@CoolMan Caravan That's what you got from what I said? Wow. Anyway, yes, let me rephrase that: you can compare anyone to anyone, but doing so based on a lie, and with the clear intent to demonize the "opposition", is in my opinion a bit silly.

@CoolMan Caravan The account of the death of her son is based on hearsay and rumour?

@Richard Berry you should look up what anecdotal means because that's exactly what it is

@Baychimo I can compare myself to hitler. We both breathed air, we are both relatively short men, both caucasian. You can COMPARE the actions of 2 people without saying they are literally the same person.

@CoolMan Caravan If someone's opinion is based on "I bet this is what'll happen" and comparing a woman who lost a child to Hitler, then "tacky" is putting it mildly. Anyone who MIGHT want reasonable gun laws (I don't know if it's on her agenda) gets attacked. Who said losing a kid would make them fit for office? "I bet she will be a bigger criminal than Mr.. Dunn" isn't an opinion, it's assumption that isn't connected to reality. What you need to ask yourself, is why people are demonizing someone who has done nothing wrong (unless someone can prove otherwise), but in fact lost a lot. I understand you share some values with these people, probably about gun laws, but that doesn't mean you have to be against others. "Well, Rapist-Rick, if you like weed and I like weed, then we're on the same side".

@CoolMan Caravan Not anecdotal.Actual.And why can,t you? Are you making that a rule are you?

@Scorch428 How do you know her credentials?

@Scorch428 How do you know her credentials?

@dil oreo it has nothing to do with "ben Shapiro". It has more to do with someone who campaigns for gun control just because they lost kids to gun violence in their personal lives. You cant try to write policy for other people based on your own anecdotal experience

@Liz Steeds why are they tacky for having an opinion? They're not wrong. Losing a kid doesn't automatically make you fit for office.

I don't agree with her policy on gun control, but good for her regardless.

@Scorch428 The Trump way. No credentials or expertise required. Or does that only work for certain people? 🤨🤔

@FactsOverFeelings Matter Hitler actually relaxed gun control from the Weimar period.It's a myth that Hitler took people's guns away.Nazi Germany was a very militaristic society way more so than America is today and also required training  young boys in marksmanship to prep them for compulsory service.

@Rachel Callahan imagine ACTUALLY thinking you can make the government into anything but garbage

@SnapTexas Sounds like she was a crappy mother. Single I presume?

@Fetero feelings are what they use to try and take the guns away

I wonder if she’s in the order of the eastern star

I wonder if she’s in the order of the eastern star

Credentials:  Having a son that was shot and killed...

@ozma facts over feelings is a typical Ben Shapiro tagline. Don't mind the alt-right troll he's just trying to get a rise out of you.

@FactsOverFeelings Matter you're comparing a grieving mother to Hitler and her son's murderer just because you're overly emotional? wow, try and think for yourself and not be so brainwashed

She should thank Michael for doing her a favor then.

She should thank Michael for doing her a favor then.

@Heyons I found her. Lucy Mcbath. Tragic life she had. Two sons killed and two times breast cancer.

Good for her!   Hopefully, she will be able to make some positive changes in our society and the people that live in it.


It’s beautiful to see his smug smile at 55:38 getting wiped off his when Rhonda says no every time she’s asked about a weapon. Justice prevails is always a beautiful thing to see

Sucks for him that she is only the fiancé

@Random guy with a baseball batte <br>sure buddy

@Random guy with a baseball batte
sure buddy

@First Name Last Name So good some of my comments were deleted

Actually it's not a bait but you get my point

@Random guy with a baseball batte <br>nice bait

@Random guy with a baseball batte
nice bait

@bluwaslive This. It's bait. He's trying to get a rise out of y'all. He prolly doesn't even believe what he's saying, he just thought it'd piss people on the internet off. And he's right.

@Random guy with a baseball batte who hurt you? Lmao.

@Random guy with a baseball batte yeah I probably did do stupid videos like that in my early 20s. I do not require attention from you, sir. Take care.

@F Morley You do "butt lifting workout", enough said, nothing you say is relevant. Also, I see no relation between being black and what I said other than being offended to gather attention.

@Random guy with a baseball batteNope - I am black so I'm actually just a robbing thug or did you forget your own rhetoric?

@Random guy with a baseball battedamn, what a long winded way of saying "I'm bored and juvenile".

@Raccoon Teefs Btw your profile picture represents you, your comments and the people answering perfectly

@Random guy with a baseball batte you’re no better than him and if you think this way, you’ll probably end up in the same cell as him

@Random guy with a baseball batte Most obvious bait I've ever seen lmao

@Pomegranate Vibes Look up ethnic statistics in the US about murders, robbery etc and you will see interesting results.

@Random guy with a baseball batte Also: “bat”. Unless “a baseball batte” is some new phrase being used, in which case I’d love to know about it so I can use it in a sentence. Given that it’s flagged by autocorrect I can only assume it’s either relatively new slang or a typo much like the one you made fun of

@Random guy with a baseball batte Okay then, Mr. Expert on racism, please enlighten us as to the definition of racism and how it relates to your nit-picking middleschool-level maturity response. I’d also love to see these “ethnic statistics” and what they show “alongside reality”.

@MrGONZO "your". Enough said. Not expecting people like you to understand what racism is or what ethnic statistics shows alongside reality.

@Random guy with a baseball batte you don’t know any of these victims personally. Just because they played loud music does not make them “thugs”. A teenage boy lost their life way too early so we don’t know who he could have became.


Rhonda is a STRONG woman of compassion AND integrity. Wow.

@Michael Evans You played yourself, mum.


Hope we are never put in this mans position.


"What was the purpose of that?"
"To save my life"
"From the door?"

I love how in every one of these interrogations, the detectives/officers can't resist poking at them.

Having a sense of humor probably helps with the fact they deal with the worst of society

These detectives get in such good jabs. My favourite is “does your demon want an attorney”


Imagine being so scared that your fiance is going to hurt you after he just shot 10 times at a car with kids in it that you still go with him. Then imagine having to go into court and say the entire truth right in front of him. Oh my god that woman is amazing

@Pete White yeah, all we can do is second guess her thinking. To give her the benefit of doubt, i will say she testified. That was doing the right thing. Anything else is just speculation.

@Patrick the old guy. I dont think her motives were selfish at all though. Imagine: you have just witnessed your incredibly volatile fiance shoot at some guys in public, without a care in the world. You know the police will have to catch up with him eventually. But if you do anything he perceives as confrontational in the meantime, or try to get away -- if you bruise that fragile ego just the slightest amount -- what's he going to do to you?? I think she was wanting to testify, she just had to survive him first. <br>(If theres anything in there that contradicts me, lmk. I'm only 20 minutes in. That being said the psychology here has got to be complicated)

@Patrick the old guy. I dont think her motives were selfish at all though. Imagine: you have just witnessed your incredibly volatile fiance shoot at some guys in public, without a care in the world. You know the police will have to catch up with him eventually. But if you do anything he perceives as confrontational in the meantime, or try to get away -- if you bruise that fragile ego just the slightest amount -- what's he going to do to you?? I think she was wanting to testify, she just had to survive him first.
(If theres anything in there that contradicts me, lmk. I'm only 20 minutes in. That being said the psychology here has got to be complicated)

@Joshualacruz maybe, hopefully. I just know how hard people will work to preserve their own status quo though. I've seen too many people let other human beings suffer because they know that life will be disrupted once they do the right thing.

@Alex Terrel not sure that's how that works. but ok.

She could have called the cops while he was walking the dog, she should have called the cops, she wanted to put it behind her, get home, move on with her life. She turned on him to protect herself. Can't see it any other way.

@K Hall if he was released there'd be no sentencing...... 🤔

She seems like a good person, but I don't agree that she lived those events as you describe.

@deanmoncaster but at the time that she gave the testimony, she didn't know if he would be convicted. Even if the evidence was strong, somewhere in the back of her mind she's gotta know there's a greater than zero chance that the verdict would be "not guilty".

I mean if she didn’t, her life, for the rest of it would have been in jail.

Not like he was going to get her after the sentencing.... Lol


“What was the purpose of that?”
“To save my life.”
“From the door?”
Had to laugh

@Zelda Fitzgerald dude he was tired asf.

Lol 😂😂😂 I giggeler hhh he is protecting himself from a car!

Bahaha yessss. I loved the black detectives fast thinking.

That Detective was almost making fun of him the entire time


I LUV DAT THUG MUZIK. But not that modern mumble rap BULLSHIT


I can understand how shootings happen between gang and criminals...but shooting because of annoying music ...


Detective: "You have the right to remain silent."<br>Dunn: "Ok. So anyways, I started blasting..."

Detective: "You have the right to remain silent."
Dunn: "Ok. So anyways, I started blasting..."

This channel should be called “how to manipulate people when your a police officer” shooting was justified

drive careful,,cos I'm walkin (#sasquatchlives)

“ am I going to need a lawyer ? “ yes brother , about 10 hours ago !

@Pula Paw dude… You should edit your comment so it’s actually decipherable!

@Fuhreak wouldn’t matter in this case bc he talk on a jail phone and his girlfriend was smart enough and say stop talking but he keep going, than he write a letter in jail saying how he hate n@@ and the jail full of them. I guess he didn’t think their read his mail. He would have got it no matter unless he had a corrupt police department and judge that do not care about justice. Remember the actor from Chicago that tried a fake MAGE thing, he had friends in high places but the cops was on their job and that plan of dividing us that way fall though. He only got away because he had friends in high places so high they refuse to release the talk they had. I believe the rabbit hole is more deep than with people want to believe. Than they push as many stories to bury it. It the something in the city that had a huge murder where even the female organs be missing of young black woman and the city have cameras everywhere that made the people up cry even more. They have a few serial killer  high there but they spend all the investigation on a attack that cause no death. I believe I lot of this carmena are not in place to solve crime or stop it, only when they feel like weighting a finger. I starting to believe just to take help control the masses and protect the government and every now and than to make the public happy if losing publicity as they main focus is to stop enemies of the state. They working to get us like CCP and than the book 1984.

They got us to divide to try and do anything of the real problem and that going according plan.

Never been in any legal trouble, but I've always been told "Do not speak until you have your lawyer, even if you're innocent."

@Gavin Semonell that's what made this case so enthralling; Dunn literally thought he was in the right and clear even though he killed someone, except for maybe a stern talking to about fleeing the scene.

Nobody ever does and its literally the easiest and best way to defend yourself keep ur mouth shut and get ur lawyer


He shows no remorse for murdering a child<br>His fiance is showing more remorse than him.

He shows no remorse for murdering a child
His fiance is showing more remorse than him.

the point is when he was told that the kid dont have a gun he show no remorse or guilty feeling, hes a self entitled prick. people make mistake they do but for people with empathy or heart theyll feel remorsefull when they know they made mistake especially if their mistake get other people killed.

@Gerry isaac Herrera Yes, Michael Dunn was acting Thuggish, and justice system schooled him.

He was no child either..they were acting thuggish and got schooled..no innocents

@удивительный the literal definition of a child agrees with her and not you fools! A child is literally “a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.” That includes teenagers! Stop sleeping with your siblings and read a book.

Yeah.. you can hear her break with guilt when she says it was her idea to drop by the store to get wine.

Loopt weer lekker uit de hand hè die comments😂

Loopt weer lekker uit de hand hè die comments😂

don’t get it twisted - shes remorseful her fiancé’s on trial, not for the life he took

@Ooop erm... Did you read my comment? Like, at all?

@tysquirt111 Then he could've done what the other guy did and park in another spot😐He could've turned up his window, left and went to another store, or even fucking go in the store with his wife. This situation could've been avoided and the fact that you are defending his actions is disgusting.

@Ruben Gonzalez well they're certainly not adults either

@удивительный  kim doesn't understand that man child was starting trouble

a child ??? you sound like the type of person who would ruin a developed society by their ignorance ...

удивительный

the kids was calling him out you gonna back it up ...

The officer even said they deal with people who would kill you just for telling them to turn the music down. Real problem culture problem

Kim DeBoer: Don't be dramatic.  He didn't murder a "child".

I'm having a feeling the people in the replays to the comment were never told to shut the fucc up once in their life.

@centre national de la recherche inepte calm down incel

@Fishtest Kinda weird being racist in this day and age. Get with the times.

Yea she is broken cus of it all he doesnt care at all

@Fishtest what made them seem like thugs to you

@Don Corleone she didnt say they were toddlers... when you're 17 you're a kid...

@Kim DeBoer it wasn’t over music. The altercation may have started over music. But that’s not the sole reason it accelerated.

children don't drive or antagonize adults in public

@Fishtest Yes, teenagers playing their music loud as do all teens, that really makes them ‘thugs’ 🙄 If it was a car full of the same aged, white girls I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t have the same attitude.

@Kim DeBoer but loud music could hurt his ear drums. If it played too loudly, he could go deaf. Similar issues happen for people who fire a gun without ear protection, thank goodness nobody did that. Just think about how damaging that music was to his ears

I know he acts like it’s such an injustice against him!!!! He murdered someone he shot at a car that was LEAVING over loud music

centre national de la recherche inepte Lol what are you even rambling about? Go speak to a therapist or invest in a diary, because nobody here cares about your inappropriate remarks

@Abhay According to world population studies, approximately 108 billion people have lived on this planet. Assuming that the average lifespan of all these people was 25, there has been around 2.7 trillion years of life, if we multiply this by the number of days in a year (365), there is a total of 985,500,000,000,000 days of life (985.5 trillion days). Not once in any of those days did anybody ask.

@Fishtest well is a teen an adult? are they allowed to buy alcohol? buy a gun? vote? no. they are still in school. they are still figuring out their place in life.

@Don Corleone  any person below the age of 18 is considered a minor/child.

@Kim DeBoer  teenager is not the same as a child

@Kim DeBoer  teenager is not the same as a child

@Ruben Gonzalez Either way, nobody deserves to be murdered over music

@Fishtest and teenagers being obnoxious with loud music is no reason to kill them


Detective 1: “You shot his door?”

Dunn: “Yes”

Detective 1: “OK”

Detective 2: “What was the purpose of that?

Dunn: “To save my life.”

Detective 2: “From the door?”

Dunn: No....Ummm....🤥

That had to be the moment he crapped his pants

As sad as Jordan's cold-blooded killing is, this made me laugh

That cop has filters on the break room corkboard inviting people to his Thursdsy night open mike night, cause that was gold

My favourite bit - better follow up: "are you sure it wasn’t the <b>door</b> that was armed?"

My favourite bit - better follow up: "are you sure it wasn’t the *door* that was armed?"


Bless the girlfriend. Don't u just wanna hug her??  I like her for so many reasons. From the brief clips of her, she seems so sweet, caring and clearly upstanding. It must have torn her up to testify against her man but she clearly won't compromise her principles...even tho it was her testimony that sealed his fate.

You could almost hear her brain working overdrive in the witness interview with some of the questions. She knew that the truth would not line up with what Dunn had told police. And she considered-<del>just for a moment-</del> protecting him. But she ultimately did the right thing. She could have made this that much more difficult for the victims and their families. But she didn't.

You could almost hear her brain working overdrive in the witness interview with some of the questions. She knew that the truth would not line up with what Dunn had told police. And she considered--just for a moment-- protecting him. But she ultimately did the right thing. She could have made this that much more difficult for the victims and their families. But she didn't.

Now that in reading into the wikipedia, his neighbors stated that he was abusive and controlling, so there you go.

I just hate how she didn't report anything. Kind of makes me think what if he was abusive toward her at home

@CLC he looks like he would do something like that

she did it to protect her ass and tbh I support her on that, she had nothing to do with the crime so why go down and lie.

I’m happy w how she reacted to all of it. Could have been the opposite..

@Georgia DN you can love someone and not be just like them. She has some kind of moral compass and has the ability to tell the truth no matter what the outcome. <br>I would rather look up to a woman who is willing to tell the truth and still love someone who had made a horrible choice than someone who lies to cover up for their partner and is just as shitty.

@Georgia DN you can love someone and not be just like them. She has some kind of moral compass and has the ability to tell the truth no matter what the outcome.
I would rather look up to a woman who is willing to tell the truth and still love someone who had made a horrible choice than someone who lies to cover up for their partner and is just as shitty.


It makes me feel so incredibly sad that the young man, not even in the prime of his life yet, was blasted away from his family and his friends who had to watch him die. For no reason whatsoever at all.

@M V No, absolutely not. That's a very poor "reason". That's only if it could be called a "reason" to begin with. To even say that it was because he "couldn't control his rage," please. It seems more like he shot at them because his ego was bruised. He inserted himself into a situation that had nothing to do with him. I don't buy it, sorry.

@:Whatarehumans:3 justifiable for murder? No. But there was a reason for the argument, just like road rage that leads in death which occurs at least once a day according to U.S. crime statistics. The reason is the cause of the argument, some people can't control their rage, piss enough people and at least one of them will be crazy.

@Dominic Rodrigues What justifiable reason did he have for committing murder?

There was a reason. It's like those people that honk because they feel they were cut off. You never know and if your behavior potentially puts you in that position and you do not adjust, you are partially responsible.

Your own well being is in the hands of strangers everyday. At any moment, someone could decide that they want to kill someone and you could be the closest person in that moment of their decision. It is a weird thing to be aware of and it is something you shouldn't have your mind consumed by as well.

Technically, there was a reason. That being said, the reason is just about as sharp as a sphere made of a single crystal of silicon-28 made by a master lens maker.


Officers: Youre charged with murder and attempted murder <br>Him: That sucks

Officers: Youre charged with murder and attempted murder
Him: That sucks

Freddie Trollabyte I know, that’s as much honesty as you will see come out of him. Everything else out of his mouth is just a lie.

He’s still thinking a lawyer will get him off.


54:27 - Why would somebody display emotion (sorrow) for somebody that tried to kill them ? Your arguments are flawed.


He broke the first rule:  If you aren't a witness then never agree to interrogations without a lawyer.

@Cameron Crawford seems like  you're very clearly proving my point. I don't care if you need a lawyer, don't incriminate yourself, etc.  He killed someone. The first rule should have been maybe NOT shoot at someone after you've been drinking. Then he wouldn't need to get lawyer to defend him. You must be a confused on how you can walk away from situations without deadly violence.

findme Oh, absolutely. You should always lawyer up, no matter if it’s a couple of simple questions or if they truly do suspect you of the crime. I’m just saying that by invoking your right to a lawyer, even though it’s always smart to do, makes it look like you’re hiding something.

Kornelija Earthling the original comment was clearly a statement about whether or not people should engage the services of a lawyer when being questioned by police, and the potential benefits and pitfalls of doing so or not. Nobody in this thread was talking about race until you came along. And now you’re upset that nobody wants to share your outrage at something you haven’t even remotely proven to be true in this case. Lol but sad at the same time.

Edit- I sincerely hope you’re not a cop because I can seriously see you cruising around at night, pulling people over for petty reasons and wholeheartedly assigning guilt based on race with absolutely no evidence whatsoever....would you like to guess what that makes you?!?!🤔🤦♂

No lawyer would of got reasonable suspicion out of this case.  At best, he would of gotten a better plea for keeping his mouth shut.

The problem that most people seem to fall into is that they think hiring a lawyer or requesting your lawyer be present during questioning makes you look guilty (which, in all honesty, does) and will draw police into wanting to look into you as the suspect, whether you're guilty or not. Many criminals will think that by not having a lawyer, especially when police are just "asking some questions" to "clear things up" or to "get to the bottom of what happened", it'll make them look innocent and the police will move on to another suspect.

McZee luckily i feel like all kids my age know this

@Luca Brasi "greatest" is such a vapid word tbh. Wtf do you people even mean when you say that, do you yourself even know?

@RyanPhoenixAZ not a single thing you named was racist on the teenagers part. I literally have done the same exact thing when I was their age. An adult should know to just laugh at the stupidity and walk away. White priviledge is a very dense and complicated topic with many moving parts so I don't blame you for not understanding it.

@Kornelija Earthling Greatest country of the world.

I genuinely do not understand how THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REGARDING THIS VIDEO. How about this guy was an actual danger to society? He was a danger to anyone into "thug" music which I'm sure to him means any music with rapping in it. The kind of discussion that is happening in this comment section belongs under a video about a case of an actual innocent person being taken to prison, but not here. This is not a case of "he shouldnt have talked to the police without a lawyer". This is clearly "I'm glad that guilty prick was too stupid to call one". What is wrong w people <b>smh</b>

I genuinely do not understand how THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REGARDING THIS VIDEO. How about this guy was an actual danger to society? He was a danger to anyone into "thug" music which I'm sure to him means any music with rapping in it. The kind of discussion that is happening in this comment section belongs under a video about a case of an actual innocent person being taken to prison, but not here. This is not a case of "he shouldnt have talked to the police without a lawyer". This is clearly "I'm glad that guilty prick was too stupid to call one". What is wrong w people *smh*

@Luca Brasi ah. Sounds nice to hear. I grew up in a country like that, too. Then we moved to America.

I mean, the FIRST rule he broke was murdering an innocent child

Look up the YT video called "Never talk to the police". Cops telling you how they use everything you say against you.

In my country first rule is Don't kill anyone. I know, we are weirdos.

And some of you are very clearly missing that this is not a case of an innocent man being fearful for his life but a racist male who has been walking in white priviledge his entire life acting on his anger that is based on racial stereotypes that he obviously not only believes in, but actively uses to profile people in public? If an ounce of him was obviously remorseful when he learned their age and that he killed one of the teenagers then it might be a different story. If a stupid and racist yet innocent man who simply was afraid of black people acted out of fear he would have called the cops and not left his gun in the car as he walked the dog and apparently was shivering as he thought about another car of "thugs" coming.

Alexander LI watch the documentaries about false confessions...some cops are crooked & just want the case solved unfortunately

Yeah, always get a lawyer, witness or suspect. Witness can be made into a suspect

@Angela Diego you're very clearly missing the point of this comment

Or maybe the first rule is don’t shoot people out of anger ??? Some of you are focused more
On him
Talking to the police than actually KILLING someone.

Even if you are a witness you should still consult a lawyer

Don’t ever talk to the cops. Get out of this “if I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear” mentality. That’s how you get accused of bs. I’ve personally seen 2 people who thought they were being helpful that end up getting accused of bs

Oh they twist your words, and fill in the blanks...don’t ask me how i know!

tocov I forget the case but it was a murder and a witness came to the scene and asked about the victim, who was also his friend. He decided to try to help by going to the station to “answer some questions”, but next thing he knows he’s taken a polygraph, was told that he failed miserably and therefore clearly guilty, and is subjected to multiple hours long sessions of vigorous interrogation. He wasn’t being “interviewed” or “questioned” anymore, he was straight up being accused of raping and killing his friend and the detectives were asking him why he did it, apparently no longer looking for actual clues. I think they kept him in jail for some time. He was a very young man, essentially just a big kid who could have easily cracked and signed a false confession, like so many before him. Then they realized he didn’t do it, got another suspect and basically did the same thing to him. Turned out neither were guilty, the murderer was some other unrelated dude. A good lawyer for each of them would have saved a lot of time, pain, unnecessary jail time and might have even helped the cops get to the truth sooner and catch the actual murderer quicker, not waste boatloads of time getting innocent people to shit their pants on false rape and murder charges.

@Q S ***** Yes.
Also, the thing is, you most probably won't be interviewed in a murder case. But more likely in like a weed possession, DUI, civil disobedience or whatever the fuck.
They can pin it on you very easily if you talk too much, so you should always only talk with a lawyer present.

Haha, my grandfather was a cop but my mom always told me that if I ever had police contact say "Thank you, but I'd like to speak to my lawyer"... out of experience, unfortunately, that was the absolute best advice I could have gotten in that situation.<br>Edit: and any situation concerning the police. Full stop.

Haha, my grandfather was a cop but my mom always told me that if I ever had police contact say "Thank you, but I'd like to speak to my lawyer"... out of experience, unfortunately, that was the absolute best advice I could have gotten in that situation.
Edit: and any situation concerning the police. Full stop.

Charles Grguras agreed. A witness can quickly become suspect  without ever knowing it. Especially if the cops don’t actually have a suspect, something a witness wouldn’t necessarily know.

@Alexander LI That is wrong. Never talk to the police without the presence of a lawyer. Witness or suspect. If you are innocent, the lawyer will make sure you will stay innocent.

@Alexander LI It's not. Please avoid talking to the cops.

@Charles Grguras why ? I worry that insisting on getting a lawyer will attract unwarranted suspicion? Surely being innocent is enough.

@Caspers  true,  but an innocent person could just as easily end up in an interrogation just like this.  At that point in the process, it's ultimately up to what the police think. They could be convinced that you're a suspect when in reality you are just a witness.

Don't really care if a criminal is breaking one of the "get out of crime" rules.


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