"I didn't know I was being charged for killing the kid. That sucks."

This dude has NO empathy.

"I didn't know I was being charged for killing the kid. That sucks."

This dude has NO empathy.

@Notyou Are you implying that it justifies shooting a teenager because he disrespected you?

Seriously, is that what you're fucking implying, here?

@Giantenemyturtle Ikr? Especially given the fact that there's no dispute about this guy's racial animus.

@Giantenemyturtle Ikr? Especially given the fact that there's no dispute about this guy's racial animus.

@FrizzKid05 the amount of people just parroting right wing propaganda about blm was just gross-so much blind hate and ignorance

@FrizzKid05 the amount of people just parroting right wing propaganda about blm was just gross-so much blind hate and ignorance

@FrizzKid05 you have allot of common sense brother! I agree with all of your comments. 💘

@FrizzKid05 you have allot of common sense brother! I agree with all of your comments. 💘

@Smooth Ikr? I've been saying that from the beginning. There was no reason for him to park that close to them from the outset.

@Smooth Ikr? I've been saying that from the beginning. There was no reason for him to park that close to them from the outset.

@Me Ballerman It's funny you're talking about people needing to be grateful to be in your country.. what about your country's history in regard to colonialism?  Perhaps you should have never left home and taken over lands that had nothing to do with your people.  Should have been grateful to be in Denmark.  That's your logic, right?

@Mike Elliott Morbid fascination? 😜

I'm always torturing myself, like that.

@Mike Elliott Morbid fascination? 😜

I'm always torturing myself, like that.

just in my take of the situation that happened ^ we never can possibly know what was going on in the sick mind of that man, and you are absolutely correct it saddens me how he had no empathy once so ever, and felt very entitled to take the kids life

@TROPICS ADRIATIC i agree that always isn’t the case, however, this case tho definitely indicates it to be racially motivated, as the shooter was previously known for racist behavior and referring to the rap music the kids were listening to as “thug” music

@trongamer56 i mean yeah, probably lol, it's more "stupidly overgeneralizing" than racist i tend to think racism is about actions more than thoughts

@AboveAll Hmmm idk if this case is the best example for you bud, this is a pretty cut and dry "dude was racist" murder! Save that concern trolling for the ones where it's at least slightly debatable

@Pia Belanger I'm decently sure if he killed him with his own hands it'd be different from a gun. A gun distances any mental trauma (for me at least.)

wrong, just because you dont understand the monster does not mean it has no empathy

wrong, just because you dont understand the monster does not mean it has no empathy

@Haterade Gangnem A good firefighter waters the surrounding houses so the fire doesn't spread.

@Haterade Gangnem A good firefighter waters the surrounding houses so the fire doesn't spread.

@Amanda Barnhart Also, Malcolm X would call you idiots for dismissing the obvious racism of a racist murderer.

@Amanda Barnhart Also, Malcolm X would call you idiots for dismissing the obvious racism of a racist murderer.

@FrizzKid05 Child...lmfao. Stop calling people "child" child. You aint about that.

@FrizzKid05 Child...lmfao. Stop calling people "child" child. You aint about that.

@FrizzKid05 😂😂😂😂😂 lmfao yeah...or you are? Youre who Malcom X was talking about.

@FrizzKid05 😂😂😂😂😂 lmfao yeah...or you are? Youre who Malcom X was talking about.

@TROPICS ADRIATIC Right? They were dressed for the part. Not a justification, but it DOES go to character. If I shaved my head and wore flannel vests, one might assume I was a skinhead, right?

@FrizzKid05 He should work for Bidens reelection campaign.

@FrizzKid05 He should work for Bidens reelection campaign.

To be fair neither do most of them. They were kneeling on babies necks in the weeks after Floyd was killed. Two wrongs doesn't make a right though.

@FrizzKid05 Also, you read one comment from me and have already determined that my "existence insults everyone?" Holy cow what a massive statement of arrogance that is. You see a single paragraph of writing from me and assume that you can accurately characterize the effect my entire existence has upon the world around me? That isn't psychopathic? Look in the mirror man. I'm not your enemy, I have nothing against you personally despite our obvious differences in opinion, but your behavior of calling other people literal psychopaths for having a difference in opinion and not completely agreeing with your galvanizing mindset is insane.

Do you actually, truly believe that you are so perfect, so flawless, that you can play God with people's existence and determining their value? That isn't insane?

@FrizzKid05 wow. We've moved to existential insults, that is meta. Someone's very existence is an insult and it's your sacred duty to insult those whose existences insult themselves....that is....very interesting.

@FrizzKid05 sir, are you capable of writing a sentence without insulting someone you disagree with? Goodness the amount of hatred you carry inside you is...frightening. What happened to you?

@Me Ballerman 100% agree with you again sir. No matter what we do we can't win with these folks. Always have to throw insults around and get vitriolic. Thanks for answering the raging storm with calm sir.

@Me Ballerman lololololololol. Y'all are hopeless.

@Me Ballerman lololololololol. Y'all are hopeless.

@FrizzKid05 You calling everyone names and screaming BLM, only makes the movement and the people supporting it look bad and immature (when its not). If you want to make an argument or statement, i suggest you do so with composure and dignity, otherwise people will never listen to you even if youre saying something true and/or important.

@Me Ballerman no, not all rap music is about drugs and gangster. There’s different genres of rap. So 1 you’re wrong, and again this is very obvious that this was racially charged. Black people we’ve seen shit like this for decades. Also on the phone he calls them “ animals” and then says “ I don’t like this thug music”. Usually when people say shit like that it has racial undertones to it. And then his lack of empathy also plays a big factor. He also lied about them attacking them and threatening him. There race obviously played a part in this shit and if you don’t think so still then I wouldn’t expect you to because you aren’t black you don’t hear or see people treat you that way.

FrizzKid05<br>And your problem is you attack anyone with opinions different from yours. You have so much hatred in your life an I feel sorry for you man. Your laws allow people like you with anger issues to have guns causing so many deaths like this case.

FrizzKid05
And your problem is you attack anyone with opinions different from yours. You have so much hatred in your life an I feel sorry for you man. Your laws allow people like you with anger issues to have guns causing so many deaths like this case.

@It's Because Wtf are you even talking about, child? What does that have to do with my commentary?

@It's Because Wtf are you even talking about, child? What does that have to do with my commentary?

@Me Ballerman It's only interesting if you like inventing scenarios. It's useless, here, because he wasn't actually the one who pulled a gun.

@Quinton Moad Aah OK, thanks for the explanation. Well, I might be utterly wrong about how Jordan would have reacted towards a black man. But it is interesting, and it seems nobody but I gave this a thought. Thanks for being polite. Yeah, Dunn was dangerous. Shouldn't have been allowed to fool around with a firearm.

That dude's voice is annoying asf, and just hearing his pathetic excuses about why he fired off those rounds it's so aggravating

That dude's voice is annoying asf, and just hearing his pathetic excuses about why he fired off those rounds it's so aggravating

@DMNT-Atlacatl Except, you're ignoring the obvious context. Even if we grant him that the kid made a threat, which obviously wasn't the case, a human being would still show some amount of regret for killing a kid.

@FrizzKid05 No shit Sherlock.  Im going based on the interrogation and his justification.

@FrizzKid05 No shit Sherlock.  Im going based on the interrogation and his justification.

Would you have empathy for killing someone who is gonna kill you?

Would you have empathy for killing someone who is gonna kill you?

@Me Ballerman It is. And yes it was someone else.

@Me Ballerman It is. And yes it was someone else.

@Wai'ala Kāhele Ahh, thanks. I'm not a native English speaker. Prejudice is the right one, yes?

@Wai'ala Kāhele Ahh, thanks. I'm not a native English speaker. Prejudice is the right one, yes?

@Wai'ala Kāhele I don't know, I didn't say that? You confuse me with another commenter I guess? Dunn did a horrible and stupid thing. But you know - in the USA people fool around with guns, they even have them in their glove boxes, this is "normal". And he was drunk driving with that pistol in his glove box. Clown he is.

@Me Ballerman Also, prejudism is not a real word.

@Me Ballerman Also, prejudism is not a real word.

@Me Ballerman 😂 Thanks for the Belly laugh so early in the AM! Almost tears!! Answer me this, besides the fact that you say his biggest mistake WASN’T murdering a 17-year old innocent child but instead “…being in Jacksonville in the first place.” Why was it a mistake to be in Jacksonville?

@Quinton Moad I don't understand the term "don't pull a muscle reaching fam" - I've no clue what that means?

@Quinton Moad I don't understand the term "don't pull a muscle reaching fam" - I've no clue what that means?

@Me Ballerman you know what they say about people who assume. I grew up in a neighborhood that was predominantly families of color and none of us white people were ever treated differently lol don’t pull a muscle reaching fam.

@TROPICS ADRIATIC you make a compelling argument but it is unmistakably racist in this case. It was a man and some kids talking shit about the kids’ “thug music” until the man heard something he didn’t like and drew a firearm.

@FrizzKid05 Mind you: Dunn isn't in prison for racism. He's in prison for murder1.  But honestly - if Dunn were a black man, how do you think Jordan would've reacted? This is interesting, but you refuse to hear about it, because deep indside we both have the feeling that Jordan would've answered a black guy something like: "Yo bro, no problemo. We keep it down until we're outta here".  As a poc yourself - what do you think? Yes, I could be wrong, we can't test it. But what do you feel? (and sorry if that isn't how black Americans express themselves, hmmm. Maybe he would just say "Yeah, OK bro"

@Me Ballerman 'Nobody else but me...'

Dude! Just fucking stop! There was absolutely nothing to indicate race had anything to do with Jordan's response...so stop making excuses for interjecting claims without evidence and stop doing it.

@FrizzKid05 I can see what you mean "inventing the both sides" - however, it seems I'm the only one in the "whole world" to suspect Jordan of being as much a racist as Dunn. Nobody else but me have thought about this. But think about it: Isn't rap music about "black gangsta heroes and cocaine and gang war"? And Jordan had been listening to this together with his friends, maybe/possibly identifying himself with it, even more so than his more easy going friends. And then came Dunn, the clown.

See, I imagine the episode from both sides, and I can "see" them both. Not even Dunn's own lawyer had been going down "my" path here. Only I have thought about this.
Anyways, the verdict was correct, except I think it was manslaughter, not murder1. It just happened.

@Me Ballerman There was literally nothing in the interaction to indicate that race had to do with Jordan's response, unlike Dunn, who literally went into the situation with the racial overtones. (Aka - 'I hate that thug music', we all know what middle-aged white men mean by that)

You're literally inventing the 'both sides' argument, In this situation.

@FrizzKid05 But do you think Jordan would've throwed the same tantrum if a 45yo black guy asked him to ease off the volume?  That is very interesting, but impossible to answer, as Jordan's dead.

No, Jordan didn't scream racial insults at Dunn it seems - but Dunn didn't throw racial insults at Jordan either. We know from the police interrogation, and from people who knew him, and from his letters from jail that he is somewhat a racist. We really need to have a 45yo black guy asking Jordan to turn music down, and watch/listen to his reactions in this example. But we can't.

Anyways - I see Dunn as a clown, a clown who came from his son's wedding, had waaay too much to drink - and unfortunately had a loaded gun in his car. And then he finds himself involved with a bunch of black guys who play loud music. The music they play is made by/for black people, it's loud, just outside the gas station, and it annoys Dunn. The episode ends up with the clown drawing his gun and killing one of the blacks. Now he's in prison for the rest of his life.

@Me Ballerman Ummmm...No, there was no 'both sides' to this. Witnesses never heard Jordan say anything about race. He was pissed that a dude told them to turn the music down in a public parking lot.

There was no reason to even suspect he was mad about the asshole's race. You're 100% just making it up to claim 'both sides', which is you speaking out of privilege.

One party was using racial tropes and the other wasn't. There's no both sides, here.

@Me Ballerman You're just wrong, cartoon character.

@Me Ballerman You're just wrong, cartoon character.

His ego thought what ever social privilege in this world would save him.

His ego thought what ever social privilege in this world would save him.

@FrizzKid05 😂 chill homie. By thug music he meant rap and people of all colours make rap music. That means nothing. Remove your bias and you’ll realise that people are almost always judged on character and behaviour rather than color.

@TROPICS ADRIATIC Dude literally told his wife he 'hates that thug music'. She testified to it, under oath. 😂 Stop making excuses for him.

@TROPICS ADRIATIC Dude literally told his wife he 'hates that thug music'. She testified to it, under oath. 😂 Stop making excuses for him.

His biggest mistake was being in Jacksonville in the first place. <br>That aside, he shoulda just called the police when he was threatened. Or be sensible and park somewhere further from the SUV full of teenagers playing loud music.

His biggest mistake was being in Jacksonville in the first place.
That aside, he shoulda just called the police when he was threatened. Or be sensible and park somewhere further from the SUV full of teenagers playing loud music.

The "That sucks" 100% was for the arrested part, not the murder

The "That sucks" 100% was for the arrested part, not the murder

Also the “for killing the KID” once again conflicts with his whole “I thought they were all full-grown adults” defense.

Also the “for killing the KID” once again conflicts with his whole “I thought they were all full-grown adults” defense.

Right? Even if he fully believed he was defending his own life, if a person kills a CHILD, you’d think they’d be a little bit more upset by it.<br>If I had killed someone and found out that there was never a weapon on their vehicle, I’d never forgive myself for it. He killed that kid for no reason. And he didn’t even feel sorry for it.

Right? Even if he fully believed he was defending his own life, if a person kills a CHILD, you’d think they’d be a little bit more upset by it.
If I had killed someone and found out that there was never a weapon on their vehicle, I’d never forgive myself for it. He killed that kid for no reason. And he didn’t even feel sorry for it.


You know what I have to say about his conviction?!! GOOD, GOOD AND MORE GOOD!!!!!


Just walk away. Move seats. Move parking spot, leave the store or the party. Don’t challenge people


Me practicing what i would say only to realize im not a murderer so it doesnt matter lol its funny how crime stuff i always think like "dude why didnt you cover your tracks" then im like wait good, dont cover them hahah


I wonder if you didn't do anything to immediately lawyer up as in interrogations they basically are trying to get you to admit you committed a crime.


His fiance feels more remorse for wanting to stop to get wine than he does for murdering an innocent child.

His fiance feels more remorse for wanting to stop to get wine than he does for murdering an innocent child.

@customsongmaker if Mike was taken out of this equation, would that innocent boy still have lost his life?

@customsongmaker if Mike was taken out of this equation, would that innocent boy still have lost his life?

@The Midnight Library the law disagrees with you LOL

@The Midnight Library the law disagrees with you LOL

@Jackman LeBlanc that's what I'm fucking saying!!! People are so petty. The point is he emptied TEN rounds into the car of innocent boys

@Jackman LeBlanc that's what I'm fucking saying!!! People are so petty. The point is he emptied TEN rounds into the car of innocent boys

@Galaxie_ Coeur I get what summer is saying.  It's semantics.  He was technically not a child at 17.  At least a year from being an "adult". To us, he's a child because of his age.  But is that true or is it how we use words.  At 45, I call csll mid 20s kids and children.  But try are not.
It's semantics for no reason.  Especially when it's one lined like that.   He was a minor and a young person.  As an older person a modicum of restraint and wisdom are expected.

I'm from the hood.  I've asked people to lower there music at publics places.  Some are cool. Others are assholes.  Unfortunately I cannot make someone do something.  I carry also.  Knowing people can be assholes and I carry, I'm not looking to escalate a situation.  I wanna go home with no drama. 🤣

@Jenna Mattern not necessarily.  She could have him arrested at any time by claiming he hit her.  He wasn't free to leave, since our government would send men with guns to enforce her whims.

@Jenna Mattern not necessarily.  She could have him arrested at any time by claiming he hit her.  He wasn't free to leave, since our government would send men with guns to enforce her whims.

@customsongmaker he could have left if she was the problem.

@customsongmaker he could have left if she was the problem.

@thehoneyeffect ever consider some people hide bad traits?

@thehoneyeffect ever consider some people hide bad traits?

@summer 91 17 is a minor. Legally a child.

@summer 91 17 is a minor. Legally a child.

@Galaxie_ Coeur I'm pretty sure he would have murdered someone else eventually. Avoiding thug music isn't possible. There will be loud horrible music playing and you can't murder someone for it but he didn't get it.

@Disciple Mike  yes because getting a bottle of wine always results in murder...

@Disciple Mike  yes because getting a bottle of wine always results in murder...

Nothing compares to a fairly expensive bed and breakfast paid for in St. Augustine

Nothing compares to a fairly expensive bed and breakfast paid for in St. Augustine

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@The Midnight Library I completely disagree I see someone who is a child as someone who is ignorant to the world and how things are just because someone is 13 and not 12 doesn’t mean they changed mentally or physically much 17 is young and “just a kid” and saying “killed a child” are used for someone early 20s to about 10 ish imo

@Gary Whitehead Legally there is no distinction. A teen is a child. The legal definition is what matters here, not the specifics of human development and maturity. In court, children can be “tried AS adults” depending on the crime and proximity of their age to legal adulthood, but theres a reason it’s “tried as” and not “legally an” adult.<br>The law doesn’t distinguish between minors. You’re either a minor (a child of any age below 18) or an adult. It’s a courtroom, not a science class. There are only 2 categories.

@Gary Whitehead Legally there is no distinction. A teen is a child. The legal definition is what matters here, not the specifics of human development and maturity. In court, children can be “tried AS adults” depending on the crime and proximity of their age to legal adulthood, but theres a reason it’s “tried as” and not “legally an” adult.
The law doesn’t distinguish between minors. You’re either a minor (a child of any age below 18) or an adult. It’s a courtroom, not a science class. There are only 2 categories.

@James Ford  according to you my mom and a class mate was children till they was way in their 20’s because that when they got their period. <br>My 9 year old rebrew is a man bc that when he reach his.

@James Ford  according to you my mom and a class mate was children till they was way in their 20’s because that when they got their period.
My 9 year old rebrew is a man bc that when he reach his.

@summer 91 17 years old is technically still a child

@summer 91 17 years old is technically still a child

@Leslie there’s a bunch of men in this comment section hitting on women it’s really strange..

@Leslie there’s a bunch of men in this comment section hitting on women it’s really strange..

@Bob Terrana 1. brain doesn’t stop until 25 2. Legally a child 3. If you’re an adult and don’t consider under 18 be a child, something inside you is wrong. You need therapy

@Bob Terrana 1. brain doesn’t stop until 25 2. Legally a child 3. If you’re an adult and don’t consider under 18 be a child, something inside you is wrong. You need therapy

@Michał Krawcow  Yeah she wasn't a drunk  this never what happened.

@Michał Krawcow  Yeah she wasn't a drunk  this never what happened.

@Alfo Bootidir not a child...young boy<br> A child is under 12.

@Alfo Bootidir not a child...young boy
 A child is under 12.

Well, she's at least free of him now, and perhaps one day she will be free of the guilt.

Well, she's at least free of him now, and perhaps one day she will be free of the guilt.

@The Midnight Library as a 17yr old I am legally considered a child until my birthday on July 20th. The line has to be drawn somewhere, and in most places that line is you have to be 18 to be considered an adult.

@Agent K you deserve to be put on a watchlist.

@Agent K you deserve to be put on a watchlist.

@piece of pasta - what if someone is attempting to murder a black teenage girl, is that a reason to shoot the murderer and save an innocent life?

@piece of pasta - what if someone is attempting to murder a black teenage girl, is that a reason to shoot the murderer and save an innocent life?

i reckon it is because the man is clearly an abusive husband and probably blamed it on her cause the wine was the reason they where at the scene in the first place

i reckon it is because the man is clearly an abusive husband and probably blamed it on her cause the wine was the reason they where at the scene in the first place

@customsongmaker He was also under the influence. It's not her fault that he decided to shoot at a bunch of kids. Also, I'm talking about the "it's his fault for staying with her" comment. Not your original one blaming the person who had nothing to do with the murder. Try to keep up 🙄

@Speccy SquareGoLike - thank you for admitting your own ignorance.  I hope my comment from 5 months ago continues to challenge your mind.

@Speccy SquareGoLike - thank you for admitting your own ignorance.  I hope my comment from 5 months ago continues to challenge your mind.

@customsongmaker I don't know what point you're trying to get at, but it's going nowhere

@customsongmaker I don't know what point you're trying to get at, but it's going nowhere

@Speccy SquareGoLike - no, it's also his fault for staying with her.

@Speccy SquareGoLike - no, it's also his fault for staying with her.

@The Midnight Library You didn't look it up, did you? I'm gonna leave you with that, because I really can't be stuffed arguing something that is literally a <b>fact</b> . Hope you have a good day

@The Midnight Library You didn't look it up, did you? I'm gonna leave you with that, because I really can't be stuffed arguing something that is literally a *fact* . Hope you have a good day

@Speccy SquareGoLike I’m 23 lol. I just think it’s silly that you and others are calling 17 a CHILD, when it’s literally not. Ask anyone what they think when you say the word “child”. I’ll bet not even one person pictures a 17 year old.

@The Midnight Library Go to UNICEF and look it up, it's not hard. I'm sorry you're upset about not being considered an adult yet, I used to consider myself as a young adult when I was a kid, but looking back, I was definitely still a child and I won't see it any differently

@The Midnight Library According to <b>international law</b> , a child is literally someone who is under 18. Why are you so pressed about this?

@The Midnight Library According to *international law* , a child is literally someone who is under 18. Why are you so pressed about this?

@Lunar DeBrie No hate to you, but  female brains don't fully develop until like 25 or something and male brains, like 28-30, if I remember correctly. I do agree with your overall statement, though.

@Lunar DeBrie No hate to you, but  female brains don't fully develop until like 25 or something and male brains, like 28-30, if I remember correctly. I do agree with your overall statement, though.

@Speccy SquareGoLike 17 is an adolescent, not a child😂 this is such a pointless conversation. If that same 17 year old were the shooter instead of the victim, would he still be a child? If that 17 year old shot someone you loved, would you not see him punished as an adult? There’s clearly a double standard here. All i’m saying is be consistent. Child implies far younger than 17, usually 12 and under. It’s misleading to call him an innocent child. Innocent, YES. Child, NO.

@Hazey <b>Finally!</b> Somebody with some sense

@Hazey *Finally!* Somebody with some sense

@customsongmaker Sounds like you're blaming her, the person who was not firing the gun in the situation. I don't think you undersrand the situation very well.

@customsongmaker Sounds like you're blaming her, the person who was not firing the gun in the situation. I don't think you undersrand the situation very well.

@The Midnight Library 17 years old is a minor. That is a child.

@The Midnight Library 17 years old is a minor. That is a child.

You just killed a person and you go willy nilly into police interrogation without a lawyer. Boggles the mind

You just killed a person and you go willy nilly into police interrogation without a lawyer. Boggles the mind

@customsongmaker  Are you even serious!? No where in the video did it suggest that she nagged him non stop, she doesn’t even look like the kind to nag at someone, she suggested that they stop to get alcohol and they did. Don’t even try to blame her for his actions and for him  “snapping”, she had nothing to do with it and he is fully responsible for his actions. And if he was capable of doing so that night he was capable of doing it any other time. You don’t know what happened that night, and for you to speculate and try to blame someone without evidence is disgusting behavior, I would suggest for you to kindly stfu and only talk about things you are certain of.

He was 17 a young adult not a innocent child

He was 17 a young adult not a innocent child

@Parker Lawhon 17 is not a kid. 17 year olds can be tried as adults. 17 year olds have murdered people before. To call him a child is silly, do you people not understand that? He’s only a child because he was innocent. Had he killed someone, he wouldn’t be a child in your eyes would he? No. He’d be an almost-18-year-old. My entire point is just be consistent. Being innocent doesn’t make someone older or younger lmao.

@The Midnight Library Jesus Christ man he’s 17 years old, he’s a kid😂 and you  said he was innocent that’s my fault. The legal definition of a child is a young human below the legal age of majority if that’s what you’re trying to argue, although it doesn’t even matter 🤦🏻♂ I misunderstood you and thought you were arguing the innocent part as well, I apologize. My bad.

@Parker Lawhon no, that’s literally the definition of an innocent teen.

@Parker Lawhon no, that’s literally the definition of an innocent teen.

@Annie Macrae Yeah I agree with you. It's really disappointing how little empathy people have these days. I don't understand how they can learn about this poor kid being murdered for no reason and the only thing they can do is argue he wasn't really a kid. It's horrible.

@The Midnight Library 17 year old with no criminal history listening to rap music with his friends at a gas station. That is literally the definition of an innocent child

@The Midnight Library 17 year old with no criminal history listening to rap music with his friends at a gas station. That is literally the definition of an innocent child

@Jackman LeBlanc exactly. honestly i think the people who are hyper focused on saying he’s “not a child” are trying to take away from the tragedy of the event. maybe they think those kids were thugs and don’t want everyone to over-sympathize with the victims, because obviously it doesn’t matter whether you consider 17 a child or not, he’s a kid and he was murdered. i’m just speculating though. that’s just how i see it.

@Bruce Gender Trans Jenner exactly. 17 is not a child. It’s disingenuous to say that. They’re one year away (let’s be real, LESS than one year away unless it’s their 17th birthday today) from being an adult and being able to vote, join the military, and go to court and be tried as an adult. Not to mention, every 17 year old I’ve known, such as myself when I was 17, thinks of themself as an adult already. 17 isn’t a child. If you have to call him an “innocent” anything, say “innocent teen”. Lol.

My only issue here is the wording. I think we can all agree Michael Dunn is a waste of air, and those guys stopping at a gas station while playing music did not in any way warrant what that POS did.

@Bruce Gender Trans Jenner exactly. 17 is not a child. It’s disingenuous to say that. They’re one year away (let’s be real, LESS than one year away unless it’s their 17th birthday today) from being an adult and being able to vote, join the military, and go to court and be tried as an adult. Not to mention, every 17 year old I’ve known, such as myself when I was 17, thinks of themself as an adult already. 17 isn’t a child. If you have to call him an “innocent” _anything,_ say “innocent teen”. Lol.

My only issue here is the wording. I think we can all agree Michael Dunn is a waste of air, and those guys stopping at a gas station while playing music did not in any way warrant what that POS did.

@Lunar DeBrie No, you're considered a minor, but not a child.

@Lunar DeBrie No, you're considered a minor, but not a child.

@Lunar DeBrie no, you are not still considered a child at 18. You are literally considered an adult, hence why you can be tried for crimes and taken to court, as an adult. New adult doesn’t mean still being a child.

@customsongmaker PFFFFF BAHAHAHAHA I REALLY HOPE YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT-

@customsongmaker PFFFFF BAHAHAHAHA I REALLY HOPE YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT-

@The Midnight Library At 17, your brain is not finished fully developing. That means you are a child! Now, does he fit the definition of a 5 year old? No, but the definition of child is very versatile. I'm a young adult, (if I wanna stretch it very far) but I still consider myself a child because I'm under 18. I'm over 13, but I am still considered a child.

@Hazey you just wrote a long idiotic rant that has nothing to do with why people are responding to the word children used in the original post, especially the term innocent children.

@Hazey you just wrote a long idiotic rant that has nothing to do with why people are responding to the word children used in the original post, especially the term innocent children.

@Francisco Tejerina I know, that's my point. She felt remorse for a mundane non-criminal thing because she's a decent person who felt awful about the kid being murdered and felt like she had a part in that chain of events. What's striking is the contrast between her remorse and her husband's lack of remorse, even though he's the one who murdered the victim.

@James Ford "The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as a human being below the age of 18 years."

I'm using the legal definition. A person who is under the age of 18 IS a child. A child can go through puberty at 12-13, would you argue that after that they are no longer a child? Kids develop physically at different paces but that does not mean they're no longer children.

People arguing over the obvious teens being labeled as children🙄, in a judicial court don’t you think they’d have to use the legal terminology of “child” for people’s under the age of consent which majority age in the US is 18? Just because you don’t define them as children doesn’t mean the legal system will change the definite law. 18 is defined as the age of maturity in the US, you can vote, are independently in charge of ones own self, be recruited for the military and witness the tragedies and joys of adulthood. These “young men” are not men yet, therefore shouldn’t be held in any different standing of the court system. They have experienced adult tragedies before the age of full understanding, legally defined in the US.

She was talking about the act that initiate everything, just watch the all thing. She even said that it was a horrible experience and apologize to the victims in a interview.<br>So, yeah, she felt remorse, a lot actually.

She was talking about the act that initiate everything, just watch the all thing. She even said that it was a horrible experience and apologize to the victims in a interview.
So, yeah, she felt remorse, a lot actually.

@DeadMeme - what nuts, you identify as a female.  HAHAHA REKT!!!

@DeadMeme - what nuts, you identify as a female.  HAHAHA REKT!!!

@Jordan's Channel Yes, I know he's the problem, but its natural for her to feel more guilt. Someone in her position would feel as if it could've been avoided in the first place.

@Jordan's Channel Yes, I know he's the problem, but its natural for her to feel more guilt. Someone in her position would feel as if it could've been avoided in the first place.

@Galaxie_ Coeur this would have happened some other day some other place, she should realize not her but him

@Galaxie_ Coeur this would have happened some other day some other place, she should realize not her but him

@The Midnight Library as a 17 year old, yes it is lol

@The Midnight Library as a 17 year old, yes it is lol

@The Midnight Library This country was "founded" on race.

@The Midnight Library This country was "founded" on race.

@James Ford - there is a part of society that has an inherent need to turn a blind eye to the bad behavior of groups based not on the behavior itself but on the a fake "intersectional victim status" that they feel the person belonged to.  It is a lame sort of virtue signaling where the person making the comment feels morally superior towards anyone who dares call out the comment, immediately labeling them as racist or sexist or xenophobic, in order to try and discredit the person.  There was a time that didn't work, but now the media has embraced it, and it is nasty as hell.

@Roo H Yeah, I was scratching my head over that one too. Sure, if the guy had accidentally killed an eight year old boy or girl or some similar age, then those words might be appropriate. But in this case, teen, young adult, or youth makes more sense than "innocent child."

LOL innocent child... the guy was wrong for what he did but come on hahaha.

LOL innocent child... the guy was wrong for what he did but come on hahaha.

@jenni, while I agree this guy doesn't show any remorse for killing that boy, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment of the boy being considered a "child." A person who is 17 is absolutely NOT a child. Are they young, a teen, or a youth? Absolutely. If a person is old enough to have gone through puberty though, he or she is not a child. Just saying...

@Miss Vee exactly. Me too. I wonder how she's doing now

@Miss Vee exactly. Me too. I wonder how she's doing now

@Disciple Mike  oh I see yes .. I also think she genuinely believes that too and I think she is carrying the burden of it because of the life it took.. hope she gets therapy..she doesn't look like she is all there... neither does he ro be honest..

@Miss Vee I'm not saying that it's her fault. It's all on the guys fault of course. I'm saying IN HER MIND she's taking what blame she has convinced herself she has.

@Miss Vee I'm not saying that it's her fault. It's all on the guys fault of course. I'm saying IN HER MIND she's taking what blame she has convinced herself she has.

@The Midnight Library Idk how it is in the States, but here anyone under 18 is still regarded as a child.

@The Midnight Library Idk how it is in the States, but here anyone under 18 is still regarded as a child.

@Disciple Mike  people have the right to stop a a liquor store for a night cap, your fiance doesn't have the right to take out a gun and shoot at a car 10.not 9.. not 2 times. TEN TIMES.. if it weren't the liquor store,that lunatic would have done something else in another situation

Yeah, "child" feels technically inaccurate, "teen" might have been more appropriate. But I'll admit, that's a bit pedantic. Otherwise, I fully agree with OP's sentiment

Yeah, "child" feels technically inaccurate, "teen" might have been more appropriate. But I'll admit, that's a bit pedantic. Otherwise, I fully agree with OP's sentiment

She was so fucking nervous in that court session, I felt so bad for her. Could feel that woman's soul trembling!

She was so fucking nervous in that court session, I felt so bad for her. Could feel that woman's soul trembling!

@Disciple Mike  Yes, the original comment doesn't seem intended to blame or question the fiancee's guilt over stopping for wine -- the intent seemed to be to point out how it differs from Dunn's reaction. She feels a lot of remorse for the small entirely unintentional part she played, like any human being with empathy might. He, on the other hand, seems to feel no remorse at all for murdering a teenage boy.

It's that situation of a person blaming themselves for an unfortunate event because they had some influence over the unforseen circumstances which led to the tragedy, even though they couldn't have known. She cleary doesn't support what he did, It's awful of you to look down on her.

@summer 91 Regardless of if the person was an actual child or not, he is the child of his mother and father. He is someone's child. He was only 17, which is a teenager, but he is still someone's child.

Probably because she was the one who wanted wine. That's normal. Her reaction is normal. She feels awful because she knew that if they hadn't stopped for wine, the innocent child wouldn't have gotten killed because the situation wouldn't have happened at all.

I love her bc she testified against him. In a world where we have Chris Watts mom saying Shannan killed the kids, it’s nice we have others that hold their loved ones accountable.

I love her bc she testified against him. In a world where we have Chris Watts mom saying Shannan killed the kids, it’s nice we have others that hold their loved ones accountable.

@Michał Krawcow no, the main comment says she felt more remorse over the thought to stop for wine over the guy who was killed. I'm saying anyone would in her shoes because in her mind it's the one partshe would feel she had to play in it. She blames herself for that. Not that any of it was her fault in the least. In her mind she would say "if only I didn't tell him to pull over for wine it all would have been avoided."

@Disciple Mike  wait what? Are you blaming the wife?

@Disciple Mike  wait what? Are you blaming the wife?

Cuz she could have avoided everything. She's taking the blame for what she was responsible for.

Cuz she could have avoided everything. She's taking the blame for what she was responsible for.

Just who evers name and 25 -30? Then I clicked on his profile and saw that was his MO. Randomly creepy hitting on women in comment section. Thought someone should be honest with him.

Just who evers name and 25 -30? Then I clicked on his profile and saw that was his MO. Randomly creepy hitting on women in comment section. Thought someone should be honest with him.

@Steve Christie Um...when your only comments are to random women about their age/hitting on them. It makes you look every creepy. So maybe try a different avenue one that's not so stranger danger vibes. <br>If you are a serial killer than ignore everything I just wrote...cause atleast then I know you will never get a victim with that approach.

@Steve Christie Um...when your only comments are to random women about their age/hitting on them. It makes you look every creepy. So maybe try a different avenue one that's not so stranger danger vibes.
If you are a serial killer than ignore everything I just wrote...cause atleast then I know you will never get a victim with that approach.


when she was asked what she heard at 7:45 I bursted out laughing... I'm going straight to hell


that moment you learn the love of your life is a lying bully. with a gun.


Michael: turn your music down!!!
Teens: lol ok boomer
Michael: (shoots and kills one of the teens)


"You went from zero to a hundred without even getting to fifty!"<br>The other detective definitely had a little bit of a chuckle.

"You went from zero to a hundred without even getting to fifty!"
The other detective definitely had a little bit of a chuckle.

people like this prepare their whole lives for an apocalyptic scenario that never comes. his 50 was on the shooting range


So in fear of his life and innocent that  he takes 4 shots , steps out of his car and into their line of sight and shoots 4 more times, as they're taking off. Then leaves the scene, goes to a hotel, orders pizza, and walks his dog. Not guilty at all.


That’s exactly the reason why people do not supposed to have guns. You are angry - you take a gun and shoot loud guys. That’s unacceptable


Can anyone please recommend similar channels to JCS and EXPLORE WITH US? I've gotten really into this stuff and want to see more. Of course when they upload something new I'll watch their videos, but I'm curious i theres any recommendations people have on other similar channels? Thanks and apologies if the comment is inappropriate.


47:05 trying to figure out how old he'll be when he get out of prison, counting it out on his fingers 😆


Pure entitlement. He truly believed that as long as he said he feared for his life, he was going home. He looked flabbergasted when he realized he would not be going home in the last ten minutes. He walked in with almost no concern. He planned what he would say and had a couple stand your ground buzzwords tossed in. He thought if he kept saying he feared for his life he was going home. He seemed so nonplussed when told there was no gun, it didn't matter.  When they said the kid never opened the car door it barely fazed him. Even when he was pressed about blindly firing a gun into a car of people he couldn't see that posed no threat while it was driving away, it barely registered. After all of that he still believed he was going home. This is pure entitlement.


90 years , for something stupid he did , pointless shooting, I’m happy for that lady hope she moves on with her life , the loser is never getting out


Lmao when he’s on trial after talking to the lawyer makes me think the lawyer wanted to be a movie producer to get him to relay the events that happened so theatrical and hilarious to watch. Too bad Dunn is a shit actor and couldn’t convince the jury.


Goes without saying that he should have just moved his car away from vehicle that he found bothersome. He should also get a dwi and handling a firearm under the influence and they should get a disturbing the peace violation. If these hadn't occured, this wouldn't have happened. Lesson: don't instigate and intentionally aggravate and don't engage with those who do. Wonder what kind of partner he was. Fear of this kind of man  with a gun is a real one in the US.


Do I need a lawyer? Ahh, yes, that would be recommended. This was a very foolish thing to do.


Narrator is great. His voice is very concise and clear and to the point. Hopefully he narrates books so you can listen with ease.

@Ben Horn dayum you right, just noticed he totally does sound like ryan boogarian

He sounds like the Asian dude from buzzfeed coldcase videos

Drago Kragulj I was thinking the same thing. Right to the point  and very clear.

@Klaytrix bruh they're 2 different people, this channel has a different narrator

@Klaytrix no it's kizzume, says so right in the description

I think it is the down the rabbit hole guy. Channel name is Frederick something. He takes his time on videos and they are very good.


what a world we have to live in nowadays where it‘s not self defence when you shoot fleeing people who are unarmed and never posed a real threat in the first place like damn times are rough


And to this day i refuse to go to the "Murder Gate" gas station.


"What was the importance of that?"
"To save my life."
"from the door?"
"no i-"
NHA cuz that was so funny to me, cuddos to the detective for his patience for this narcissistic baffoon

@Sterling Archer 33% obscurantist spelling rate? Better than most on YT, who seem to struggle with to, two and too.

I have to admit, my interest is piqued by your correct spelling of narcissistic, a word commonly misspelled, yet "Kudos" and "buffoon" escaped you entirely.... Truly intriguing.


I love how the black cop leans in towards him and stares at him


What a psychopath, dude killed a child and thinks he was a victor

@Kate Wilkinson you're wrong.  You don't live here.

MAGADETH weren’t you the one who said that tangent wasn’t pertinent to the original comment? Maybe instead of trying to prove to complete strangers how well you can use google we can have an actual conversation here, you tried to justify child murder in your original comment, let’s get back to that.

MAGADETH give me an example of somebody who won the Nobel peace prize and didn’t deserve it

MAGADETH wow you figured out that are born and grow up into adults, someone give this guys a Nobel peace prize

@Saucy Minx please tell me what im lying about point it out so we can talk about it

@Susan Will u can rationalize anything. No one wants to be in the wrong. But to murder?

@B Bodziak So half the population of America are racist creeps? Do you really believe this?

Brian Trump is literally filling his pockets by going to his properties and having everyone he brings with him Pay to get in and stay. Out of the three plus years he has been in office he has visited his properties 500+ times and spent 394 days there. So well over a year of his presidency.

And worried  about his bed and breakfast hotel

Teru Mikami the world doesn’t bend to suit whatever you want, if something’s too loud, boohoo it’s in a public space, you can be mad about it, but normal adults move the hell on, not pull out a gun.

@Kyle Mortensen imagine if like...... e.g. every serial killer on trial used "well what about all the serial killers u HAVENT caught" as a free get-out-of-jail pass lol. "aw shit u right mr bundy case dismissed. in fact YOU should be the judge. heres my gavel"

@Kyle Mortensen Who? If you have to go that far back for your current "whataboutism" you are losing.

They could have just turned the shit down

@R gee whiz, someone should tell americans that, huh!

(also idk but i sure hope ur referring to those confederates and not "rebellious people")

@Brian the trump supporting right has a lot to be ashamed of.  Dont act high and mighty buddy.

B Bodziak <br>I think this is about more than politics, there’s a horrible system in the US that teaches ppl who aren’t exactly exposed to real black people, that black people are dangerous, it isn’t 100% a right wing doctrine either, it’s just a racist doctrine. This man in the video is obviously an extreme case, but his ideals exist in many us citizens, and that is the real problem, not the politicians who would use real tragedies to bolster their popularity, because at the end of the day a child died because a racist man labeled him a thug for the colour of his skin, and the music he was listening to.

B Bodziak
I think this is about more than politics, there’s a horrible system in the US that teaches ppl who aren’t exactly exposed to real black people, that black people are dangerous, it isn’t 100% a right wing doctrine either, it’s just a racist doctrine. This man in the video is obviously an extreme case, but his ideals exist in many us citizens, and that is the real problem, not the politicians who would use real tragedies to bolster their popularity, because at the end of the day a child died because a racist man labeled him a thug for the colour of his skin, and the music he was listening to.

@November Witch +99% of BLM protests have been peacefull, unlike rightwing protests by organizations like the proud boys etc
 the Fbi has proven that there was no Antifa involvement
When people say that rightwing talking points are based on feelings and misinformation this is what they mean

B Bodziak thank you for your comment with the detail about Jordan’s mother. I’m so glad that some good has come from this tragedy and hopefully she can do some real good for the community in her sons name.

@B Bodziak It's amazing how Trump supporters are only able to project the worst traits of their dear leader on Democrats. Pocket filling?!? Are you kidding me? 🤣😂 There must be some criticism they could level against Dems that doesn't better describe the current GOP and Trump, but I've yet to hear it.

Susan Will Exactly what a warped perception! He murdered someone and still though of himself as a victim and “victor”, dangerous lack of empathy

He also thought he was a victim. (He said so in his phone conversation with his fiance.)

B Bodziak i’m from Britain so have no views on American politics, however i don’t think it’s fair to generalise like that.

@Brian I'm guessing that you didn't realize that Jordan's mother, Lucy McBath, was prompted by this event-- the murder of her only child, AS WELL AS, Trump's and the GOP's lack of concern over any type of real gun-control to run for a House seat in Congress as a Democrat.  So, YES, the death of this young man, who had his life unnecessarily cut far, far too short, DOES have a political edge to it.  In 2018, Lucy won her first attempt at running for any public office outside of a position on a middle school's PTA board.  She unseated a 26 year fixture of the GOP , Karen Handel.  She proudly and successfully represents hers AND my district in Georgia; and I not only enjoy having Lucy as my House Congressional Representative, I have also enjoyed and have had the pleasure of working side-by-side Lucy at a commercial airline for almost 30 years.  Trump's behavior and lack of empathy and concern for shooting victims is a huge reason that she decided to run for office.

If you still do not think that this crime and my comment(s) is intricately linked to politics, please explain to me how so.

FYI: The comment I equated to Trump Followers held this description, as follows:
--Whiny
--Triggered (easily)
--Racist

Check, Check, and Check.  The only possible exception is "Creep", and that's ONLY because I do not resort to using descriptive terms that shouldn't even be used on middle school playgrounds --  Given that it's a regular "go-to" term used by Trump and his Followers, it likely is deserved to be on this list as an accurate adjective, but I'm not quite ready to stoop to the distasteful tactics so often seen from the GOP, especially from the highest ranking member of the GOP.  They gave turned our nation into the laughingstock of the world, even in the two countries that our "leader" has sucked up to time and time again: Russian and North Korea.

@Brian I'm guessing that you didn't realize that Jordan's mother, Lucy McBath, was prompted by this event-- the murder of her *only* child, AS WELL AS, Trump's and the GOP's lack of concern over any type of real gun-control to run for a House seat in Congress as a Democrat.  So, YES, the death of this young man, who had his life unnecessarily cut far, far too short, *DOES* have a political edge to it.  In 2018, Lucy won her first attempt at running for any public office outside of a position on a middle school's PTA board.  She unseated a 26 year _fixture_ of the GOP , Karen Handel.  She proudly and successfully represents hers AND my district in Georgia; and I not only enjoy having Lucy as my House Congressional Representative, I have also enjoyed and have had the pleasure of working side-by-side Lucy at a commercial airline for almost 30 years.  Trump's behavior and lack of empathy and concern for shooting victims *is* a huge reason that she decided to run for office.

If you still do not think that this crime and my comment(s) is intricately linked to politics, please explain to me how so.

FYI: The comment I equated to Trump Followers held this description, as follows:
--Whiny
--Triggered (easily)
--Racist

Check, Check, and Check.  The only possible exception is "Creep", and that's ONLY because I do not resort to using descriptive terms that shouldn't even be used on middle school playgrounds --  Given that it's a regular "go-to" term used by Trump and his Followers, it likely is deserved to be on this list as an accurate adjective, but I'm not quite ready to stoop to the distasteful tactics so often seen from the GOP, especially from the highest ranking member of the GOP.  They gave turned our nation into the laughingstock of the world, even in the two countries that our "leader" has sucked up to time and time again: Russian and North Korea.

@B Bodziak way to make this a political subject buddy!

The Left takes any chance to shame the Right it seems, no matter how shameful.

Oh btw, if you have any shred of wisdom in you, you'd vote for Trump as well instead of those pocket-filling Democrats.

@LeftEyeReportIn other words:  Trump Followers

"Victim and the victor"

He's the perfect encapsulation of all of the whiniest triggered racist creeps


18:20 - “Return fire” as he was the ONLY one who fired.


Honestly, the fact that the father of the groom leaves the wedding early to take the dog for a walk is already a red flag!


Woah, I just now noticed that when the interviewer asked if he shot one handed or 2 handed he immediately pointed an imaginary gun at the black interviewer instead of anywhere in the room, that's really telling of this man.


This happened in Florida. The US has more guns than people. The country with the next-most number of guns is India with like, a billion people and 71 million guns. It’s easy to have the mentality as a civilian that someone “bending down in their car” is reaching for a shotgun when everyone and their dogs are packing heat. The US is fucked. And somehow, the people in the US are raised to think this is not only OK, but that it’s a good thing to have guns, and that the issue is “illegal” guns and mental health. Guess what, Michael Dunn chasing after a car with a knife is a completely different story than shooting a car 10 times.


Rhonda is a legend. Truly someone who cares about doing the right thing.

@Arturo Alvarez No one here isn't NOT feeling for the kids. That's obvious. It's just interesting to see someone have to come to terms with the fact she loved someone who was willing to lie and shoot at some kids. She could be feeling everything from betrayal, anxiety, and paranoia from being around someone who so easily did what he did. The kids are the obvious victims and certainly recieve many sympathies from everyone in the comments section. <br>As someone who went through a similar situation with someone you love revealing their true evil face and hurt innocent people around you, it's highly relateable and I sympathize with the sure conflict she's feeling. Torn between loving someone and coming to terms with reality. It's a lot harder than people make it out to be-- You can't just... ditch those feelings, especially since it wasn't you who was directly affected. Everyone feels for the kids, as they didn't deserve this at all from a monster like that. But people do forget the others affected from truama indirectly.

@Arturo Alvarez No one here isn't NOT feeling for the kids. That's obvious. It's just interesting to see someone have to come to terms with the fact she loved someone who was willing to lie and shoot at some kids. She could be feeling everything from betrayal, anxiety, and paranoia from being around someone who so easily did what he did. The kids are the obvious victims and certainly recieve many sympathies from everyone in the comments section.
As someone who went through a similar situation with someone you love revealing their true evil face and hurt innocent people around you, it's highly relateable and I sympathize with the sure conflict she's feeling. Torn between loving someone and coming to terms with reality. It's a lot harder than people make it out to be-- You can't just... ditch those feelings, especially since it wasn't you who was directly affected. Everyone feels for the kids, as they didn't deserve this at all from a monster like that. But people do forget the others affected from truama indirectly.

He did nothing wrong. It is crazy that he was arrested. He needs to be released immediately.

@Arturo Alvarez The thing is that everyone watched Rhonda talking and feeling emotions, thus empathizing with her is simple. But I agree with you, when I saw the picture of the kid, even before I knew what was going on I thought something bad happened to him and I felt disgusted and sad. Hearing he was murdered was shocking to me because we already watched all of his friends, all just kids that stopped for some cigarettes and liked music and getting in trouble, but never actually hurting anyone. What about his family? What about his school peers? Maybe he had a girlfriend or someone that never had the chance to tell him how much they love him. Gosh, how in the hell was Dunn expecting we would empathize with someone that ENDED a kid's life for NO reason.

@Ellybean  Usually it's guys like you who are quick to point fingers that never back up their words when the time comes.

@perhaps today he's too egocentric to do that

@Ellybean she wasn't in the car with him when it happened she was inside the gas station and only told the police what she knew and was probably told be dunn

@Ellybean EXACTLY! everyone in the comments are feeling bad for Rhonda, like what about the kids that got shot at!!

@Fishing Is life Obviously she fell in love with someone that she believed would not commit murder

Is not about doing the right thing is about protecting ur loves one so is obviously she don't want him

@Ellybean “he’s my fiance” well yea,  thats what he is/was, why is that a problem for her to say that?

@Ellybean typical keyboard hero. The thing is, you don't know what you would do. I'm not saying she did the right thing at that moment but think about it, imagine the love of your life doing something like that. Would you immediately blame him/her? Wouldn't you try to understand and think about reasons why he/she would do that? In the end, when all things became clear she had the guts to tell the truth, and that means alot. It means she has character and honesty. That's not a mouse.

@Ellybean Ok, imagine still falling in love with someone, and then they slowly reveal their true character. People are likely going to focus on the best parts of the their fiance's character, especially after years of being together.

?? She is a freaking mouse. Honey this, honey that....he's my fiance. Oh please, if I was in the car next to this fool as he shot someone dead , bragging like he is Clint Eastwood, and they go back to the hotel like nothing happened


"I couldn't hear what they were saying but I heard them saying, 'You're dead.'" oh I see


Yoooo this was shown in my law class about a week ago, awesome (not the case, this is dumb as hell)


“Is he gonna bite my ear off” this man knows 4 black people 😭


If he kept his trap shut and asked for a lawyer, he would have had a big chance of getting away with it.


Dunn obviously thought his girlfriend was going to lie for him, I love that look he has on his face when she tells the truth.

@BunBuns♡ More likely she still has very strong feelings for him and it genuinely it is hurting her to do the right thing

@oop petal you have a lot of time and patience.

@oop petal ah finally proof of braincells

@informitas 0 <br>She seemed scared tho. Idk why I just got that vibe like she felt his family would argue with her or something

@informitas 0
She seemed scared tho. Idk why I just got that vibe like she felt his family would argue with her or something

She answered the questions as she was asked and without inserting her own commentary and additional details. That is your duty as a witness to any crime, let alone a violent crime that resulted in the death of a chid. She clearly understands the gravity of the crime and her importance as a witness.

I feel very bad for her. She seems nice.

She not only told the truth but she was very objective and didn’t try to defend him in anyway, no “well he did do that but it was because of this” and that is really admirable

respect to her for not & keeping her morals instead


I wonder her reaction to finding out the real man she was engaged to


When he drops his head and smirks that's all you need to know he's guilty 22:53


Has military friends that show him the right stuff, yet tea-cups when showing how he shot at them. No chance this guy had any lessons, let alone any training on situational awareness or deescalation. I think this is actually a straightforward trigger happy murderer.

they could well have been military during the bay of pigs invasion....so yeah, possibly dated and shit AF


So, Jordan Davis is State Representative Lucy McBath's son? Wow!


Incredible that he never once expressed regret for killing a kid

@Goabnb94 in the beginning of the  Interrogation he admits admits knowing they where kids.

But he thought he was a full grown man so that makes him justified, right?

@Zene' Means in this case thugs refers to colour, since its a word used to identify black boys or men

@Vicious Vegan I thought thugs where ppl with criminal records.

he truly felt like the victim i guess, its crazy how stubborn and arrogant he is

You first have to view them as humans first!

@Wardy T <br>You're honestly saying a lot more about yourself than anyone else.

@Wardy T
You're honestly saying a lot more about yourself than anyone else.

Common mentality of trigger happy gun owners: "Its their fault i killed them for petty reasons"

He doesn't consider him a human being or a child. He initiated the engagement on pure hatred alone.

"So who had the gun?"<br>"Hopefully the guy that I hit..."

"So who had the gun?"
"Hopefully the guy that I hit..."

@K As is humanity. Welcome to the family.

@IIZeRoII Have you ever been in a Life vs Death situation? Those moments fly by so quickly, and the window to react varies. What you've just said tells me that you haven't been in that position, for which I'd say you're fortunate - You'd be shocked where the human mind goes when it prioritises keeping the rest of your body alive - Anyone that hasn't found themselves in such situations, you are priviliged people. That doesn't, however, grant you or any other priviliged person permission to shame others for being unfortunate enough to be where they are, it just means you have had life easier.

"it's just not ok to put every single human being in one pot." If you were a fetus at one point, leeching sustanance from your Mother, if you eat meat, plant matter, or even breathe oxygen they give off, then you're a parasite by definition of the word, which means we are all in one pot. I don't care how much you try to detach from that, in regards to a parasite, you and I, and any other living beings are just that.

Anyone can be a killer/murderer too and they're both the same to me, be it "Lawfully" or not. Food or not, It's still founded in selfishness, how ever you look at it.

I'm not replying to anymore of these messages.

@Zene' Means the implications of the word thug comes with people of color nowadays

@CuTTyFlaM  Here we go... another human trying to shame/label another because his feelings were hurt. I'm not an antinatalist. For a start, I never said that ALL humans should abstain from procreation, that's just you putting words in my mouth and you're wrong. I said that SOME people don't think before bringing life into this world, my parents are guilty of such thing.

@Rando music comes down to preference so no genre ‘sucks’ and the guy was obviously racist

@Tech Support You want me to get checked? Under the same Laws that were written by, and defended by Psychos and Socipaths? I'll be damned if I'm going to be pointed at and shamed by hypocrites who are no better. I think you need to realise that we can all be subjected to adopting the traits of a psycho/sociopath, if the trauma we're thrown into is bad enough.  put yourself in his shoes, you'd want to be treated fairly.

If you think caring about the fact these kids were shot makes you all-round empathetic and a good person, then you're wrong. You're not showing any empathy toward the guy that's probably been subjected to abuse as a kid, or something else traumatic that's caused him to become unstable enough to gun down these people.

All people like you do is point and laugh at those who act out and do bad deeds, but you never care about the abuse they suffered at the hands of family, or the things that made them the way they are.

i swear some of yall gonna end up in one of the videos on this channel lol

He blatantly refers to them as animals multiple times. The racism is strong in him.

@Rando That's some primo trolling mate. Here's some attention.

@Zene' Means I mean I doubt he would have shot 3 old black people in church clothes listening to gospel music too loud. It could be a factor but I’d say it’s more about the rap gangsta culture and young people being punks, in his view.

@Robert Smith Yeah its so sickening he shows no remorse and acts like its nothing. He sounds tired of discussing it

@Wardy T idk man.. "it takes little to send someone to the point of taking it as far as Mike did." i mean.. many still didn't do it, i think that's a pretty good reason to not compare everyone to a murderer.

also the thing with the slaughterhouses, humans ARE predators by nature, the first humans had to hunt to survive, i guess some of it is still in our DNA but not murder.

anyone who gets off of hanging animals and shit is not right in the head. it's just not ok to put every single human being in one pot.

@Yaritza i mean i didn't need proof lol, i was just curios to read his letters.. this dude is crazy af, i don't need proof for that haha

@Wardy T Do you deadass think people who commit first degree murder are just like everyone else? Should get that checked.

@Robert Smith "Sociopathic", you say that like it's something to be a ashmed of. If you think it is, then you'll probably want to start questioning all of those in power, y'know, the ones that wrote all of the rules you live your life by? People in power tend to have the Traits of Socipathy more so than anyone else, to the point where it's concerning. It can apply to anyone out of power too.

Go and dig up history on anyone that's ever been in control of something of importance. You'd be concerned at how many of those in power tick all of these boxes, be it a severe Lack of Empathy, or having difficult relationships, being Manipulative and deceitful, Hostile, acting on Impulsivity, and partaking in risky behavior.

@adrenalinflow yeah I agree. His choice of words describing the victims and their selection of music was a tell tale sign. I also believe he is a sociopath.

@Robert Smith, It's also incredible that humans express no regret for the murder that happens everyday in slaughterhouses. People are predators by nature, no matter how much you all think you're better than this guy, the fact is you're not. Nor am I. We all have our limits and we don't know why he did what he did, because we AREN'T Mike. We're all parasites on this planet, we just like to lie and mask it to make ourselves feel like we're better, but the fact is, it takes little to send someone to the point of taking it as far as Mike did.

Murder has been commited by all nations throughout history, be it against another person, or animals. The only time murder is prohibited is when it goes against Law. The same Law which was created by a handful of control-freaks which are hell-bent on trying to play god and maintain control over everything on their land, yet give the green light and say it's okay to let it happen to other beings. i.e pets getting burnt/hung alive, killed/butchered and eaten. It's hyper-hypocritical behaviour.

The only thing murders do is prove that the less of us on this planet, the better off it will be. This race is seriously messed up and that's not reserved for the people in these videos, i'm talking about everyone.

This is not about thugs it’s probably about “color”

If you read his prison letters, he's very proud of it and thinks more people should murder 'thugs' so they will know their place.


This guy should go to JAL big time...he shouldn't have had a gun in the first place. He should have had a safety class before he got a gun of any kind.


The # 4 was very prevalent in this case.


Kudos to the fiance for the doing the right thing, like Gus Petch she nailed his ass


That initial phone call where he rants and raves about his victimhood well also dropping all those insults against black people in particular really tells everything you should know about what kind of animal this man was and why he completely deserves to be spending the rest of his life in prison. It's completely obvious that racism was deeply ingrained in this man's mind and totally contributed to his decision to kill that black teenager because he had the nerve to stand up to a white man.


I cringed with his every word while wondering who the fuck thinks like this. I am genuinely embarrassed for him and as a fellow human being. These people are NOT right in the head. They look "normal" and behave "normal" but are secretly and unknowingly damaged thinkers. May God please forgive us and help us all and watch over those young men and their families.


Do i need a lawyer? It sounds like i'm in deep shit. Well the district attorney's office, has issued a warrant for your arrest & you're being charged with 1st degree murder & attempted murder.<br>You should've kept your mouth shut and asked for a lawyer before speaking to two homicide detectives.

Do i need a lawyer? It sounds like i'm in deep shit. Well the district attorney's office, has issued a warrant for your arrest & you're being charged with 1st degree murder & attempted murder.
You should've kept your mouth shut and asked for a lawyer before speaking to two homicide detectives.


One thing this channel has taught me, life is amazing when you don’t kill someone


Rhonda is so softly spoken. I feel so bad for her


The strength of Michael Dunn's ex fiance, Rhonda, is astounding. That had to be the hardest thing to endure; being brutally honest to detectives and the judge/jury/lawyers, knowing the answers would condemn the man she once loved.

you dont have to do this if you are married i am pretty sure you are protected from going on hearing.

@Non Ya teen murder = 'something stupid' right lol

Yeah what a gal. Wish I could find one that would divulge any and all info to cops and get me a 90 year sentence if god forbid I found myself doing something stupid like mike did .  She is Definitely a keeper

@Tig Knight she definitely knew he was gonna murder someone before that day. Yeah, that’s how things work. Lmfao

If she has any sense she'd have gotten over that love quick.

Still loved, I would think, at least at the time. You don’t immediately stop loving someone because they do something awful. Yet as clearly submissive as she was and as much as she loved him, she didn’t falter once as she spoke. I’m not surprised her voice was shaking. But damn, underneath her submissive personality is a hidden core of steel. I just hope she’s healing and can find happiness in life again.


Same animals he dealt with at the gas station are the same type of animals he dealt with in jail...

Let him tell those chaps three cells down to keep it quiet and see how long it is before he is shanked!


Is it just me or was he smiling all the way through


Michael dunn was drunk thats why he waited so long to report anything if he was even going to report anything his girlfriend even said he had 4 mix drinks. He said all that stuff to his girlfriend over the phone knowing it would get out.what really sad ia there was a boy dead and dunn was aware . but all he cared about was there dogs well being.


“I didn’t know I was being charged with murder.. that sucks.” 😂 yeah man that’s one way to put it. What a clown

It sucks more to be dead. What about the families of the deceased ?

Looks to me like psychopath response where they don’t care so much about consequences. Also very narcissistic and self serving with zero remorse… classic

Like it was a damn traffic ticket.  Never even acknowledged the 17 year old who died because they're not human to him.  Sad

hate when that happens, always ruins my day


Ladies and Gentlemen what you will witness at the end of this tragic video is the DEVIL in his purest form. May he suffer every waking day of his life.


The fact that he did not once feel sorry for killing an unarmed 17 year old teenager is what baffles me the most. He went so far as saying that he'd do it again tomorrow if he happened to be in a similar situation 😐 disgusting, really. His fiancee felt more guilt than him and it wasn't even her fault.

@Chicken Wings Saying it's privilege is like me saying blacks are superpredaters.  Let's have less of the racist crap.

@Outy Man "Whether or not he was intoxicated or had medications in his system is irrelevant to the cause of death, which is homicide."
Two different independent studies confirmed that.
End of story.

@DeludoSui You are condoning the murder of a child without any cause or evidence.

@Chicken Wings
Huh?
Because of what?
I have been be homeless, doctors have done me wrong, police too..im not rich at all..i guess im waiting for my pirivilege😳😳😳😒

@KayUndae Floyd absolutely did have drugs in his system. Fentanyl is a major depressant. Combined with a powerful amphetamine like meth, it absolutely would cause breathing problems.

Actually he said there were "about 5 things he would have done differently last night" and the events were unfortunate. Of course asking people to turn their music down it's going to escalate things, it's their right to be rude to others and get away with it because they are black. One boomer calls them out and they get upset thinking their black privilege of acting thug will keep them from the consequences, but not that day.

@KayUndae - That name again. George Floyd died of a heart attack while overdosing on fentanyl and meth. He worked himself up into a fit and his heart couldn't take it. The cops had to restrain a crazy person, whom they were quite considerate and concerned for until he started flailing around and screaming--Actually, even then. It was only after this continued that they took him to the ground and held him down, waiting for him to settle down.

Felix DC some people are just that cold-hearted, it’s not worth engaging. I bet this is the type of guy who’s thinks the cops who killed George Floyd were in the right.

Ikelos “I only believe in statistics I have faked myself.” -Churchill

Ikelos “if he took the shooting like a good victim” i know you’re joking lmao

@DeludoSui Oh god I hate engaging with trolls but.... how would he be in prison if you, obviously all knowing and all seeing, knew they had a gun? The child didn't have a record, neither did any of the others in the car, so how could he be a 'dirt bag criminal'? Fairly sure you are just making this up.

Killing a dirt bag violent criminal who happened to be 17.  They had a gun btw.  They ditched it to protect themselves.


His fiance really dodged a bullet, on a couple levels.   Definitely an abuser.

@Kino Cartoon But if you're a cause on purpose, you're still partly at fault because you actively participated into getting in a dangerous situation.

There's a reason why not many people cry or feel bad for the people who ignore warnings and go do unecessarily dangerous stuff like going into underwater caves that are known to have 200+ body count including professionnals and have signs all over the place describing how dangerous and forbidden it is, despite being an amateur. Why is it different here ? Because the killer is human ? For me, they're all at fault.

@Random guy with a baseball batte
And you my gal just successfully described the difference between being at fault and being a cause.

Being a cause means that whatever you did was part of causing the situation. In your example it was provoking someone who can hurt you.

Being at fault includes being a cause and means you are responsible for the action or event that transpired which in case of harm being done by a person is that actors fault. Aka the guy who hurt the other guy for the insults in still responsibility for that action because he did it.

Another example is that a stalker starts to stalk and harm a person who insulted and laughed at them on the internet. If the person hadn't insulted the stalker this wouldn't have happened and there for they are part of the cause which resulted in the stalkers assault but the stalker was ultimately the person who did the harm and the harmful action making them part of the cause AND responsible for what he does resulting in him  being at fault.

That's what I tried to tell you and I hope you get that now.

@Kino Cartoon I'm not saying she's at fault in the legal sense, but it's up to everyone to use common sense. If you start insulting a guy in a gang knowingly and he shoots you, obviously he's the one to be punished by law, but you have a part of responsability. If you don't think so, society has successfully brainwashed you and you can only blame yourself when reality strikes back.

@Jon M that isn’t true. You don’t understand the psychology of abused women or the dynamics in the relationship. It has nothing to do with security! It has a lot to do with the woman not knowing what love feels like, and actually believing (falsely) that feelings of fear mixed with a desire to be admired/loved is the sensation of “love”. This is usually due to an abusive father or absent father figure resulting in the woman believing sincerely that she is unworthy of love and deserving of the abuse.
Abused women believe they are broken no matter how hard they try to be good people. When the man treats her badly she is usually very apologetic and feels responsible.
It’s the perfect pairing, as a narcissist (or psychopath) takes no personal responsibility for anything ever, and the abused woman takes responsibility for everything, including the actions of others, and often becomes codependent in her desperate desire to feel loved and worthy by a male figure.
It’s very sad and some women never get out of those relationships and then they pass it on to their children.

@Random guy with a baseball batte
".., but it's like I'd you're a woman who dress half naked at 4 am in a dangerous place, criminals should be punished but ultimately it's also the woman's fault ..."

That's the comment I referred to. I know you wrote that criminals should be punished regardless but you also literally victim blamed a hypothetical rape victim even if it's an exaggerated example. But I do agree that "excuses rape" was the wrong descriptions for that so my apologies for it.
For this bit I still have to say that you need to learn the difference between "being at fault" and "being a/part of the cause".
 Don't feel forced to reply, it's totally ok if you don't. It's your time and you decide how to send it.

@Random guy with a baseball batte
".., but it's like I'd you're a woman who dress half naked at 4 am in a dangerous place, criminals should be punished but ultimately *it's also the woman's fault* ..."

That's the comment I referred to. I know you wrote that criminals should be punished regardless but you also literally victim blamed a hypothetical rape victim even if it's an exaggerated example. But I do agree that "excuses rape" was the wrong descriptions for that so my apologies for it.
For this bit I still have to say that you need to learn the difference between "being at fault" and "being a/part of the cause".
 Don't feel forced to reply, it's totally ok if you don't. It's your time and you decide how to send it.

@Kino Cartoon I've read the first paragraph and I'm not inclined to continue, I didn't excuse rapes but if you think that, then your comprehension reading is too low so I'm not willing to read the rest.

@Random guy with a baseball batte
In addition you really have to re-listen to this 36:17 part.

That's the actually description of the KID who has been murdered because of the racists prejudgments of his murder that have been displayed before the shooting and confirmed with letters he wrote from jail.

They are no thug's and no life has been safes through the murder of that kid. The only person who saved lifes was the friend of that kid who saved the rest from that lunatic while he tried to kill even more of them.

@M A That means nothing. Not having a violent past is not evidence of innocence. It's not a binary. It just means they can't make an assumption about someone they've never met.

@bbarrera86 he obviously relates to Michael Dunn in some form. Probably looks just like him

@Random guy with a baseball batte it doesn't even matter when you sound like a guy who will be the perpetrator sometime in the future, just get some help

@Air Rodriguez And my stuff keeps getting deleted by youtube algorithm so my full comment is not complete, great.

@Avery Young he’s just a racist being sad on the internet don’t mind him

@Random guy with a baseball batte he was a kid who cursed at an older man. This makes him a thug?

@Random guy with a baseball batte This is a pretty awful perspective to have. Nobody in that group threatened them, the taste in music/race doesn't have shit to do with it. Living near a suburban area with barely any crime you'll have people blasting music on occassion, this doesn't mean they're thugs. Your labelling them as such for the music and, I imagine, the skin color is why the issue keeps on repeating itself; Same as the case of a man taking his rifle to fire at a teen just for knocking at the door, just presume trouble off of minor shit like music or race.

Yep. Abusers always involved in power struggles.

@Random guy with a baseball batte did you watch the video? None of the kids in the car had any violent record whatsoever ever. They were in high school and listening to music in a car. The punishment of murder doesn’t fit listening to music too loud “crime”.

Really and the evidence of abuse is what?

@Jon M the irony is she would have security with a regular dude but she perceives that an aggressive man will keep her safe.

I've met people like her.  She ends up with a pos guy because she wants security and doesn't want to be alone.

undoubtedly, everyone victim blaming her saying “she knew what she married” is appalling. discussing her passivity in his racism can be done with nuance and without blaming her

According to Dunn's 1st two wives he was. If he and his fiancee were together for six years, I'm sure he was abusive to her too.


He genuinely believes he deserves to be let go because he was justified in his rage. What a sense of entitlement. What cruelty and disregard for human life.

@GreedEU they didn't help him because he didn't give them a leg to stand on there was nothing they could do or say to help him... It was that blatant why would this man go through all this if he didn't think it could work?

@GreedEU doesn't mean it doesn't or hasn't happened on other occasions.

@Michael Morrison Like saying there are no straight lines. In reality, sure, you're right. In nature, yeah, you can't find a single straight line, as described by x=y, etc. But they DO exist—in our minds. Just like how, whether or not there's a gene for whiteness, the concept still undeniably plays a huge role in almost every society on Earth.

@Michael Morrison glad you can get a joke

Артем Евженков

I’m talking about culture there genius, you can’t lump all people of a certain color into one box it’s small minded and exactly what your rulers want.

@Staci Schuck to sting people without remorse

@Michael Morrison there is such thing as white! It’s a color…or a shade either way it’s real!

entitlement is the best way to describe this disgusting man

Something, unfortunately, very common in  USA.

I am a white female wasp. I did not know that I was Entitled. Can someone please tell me what I'm entitled to?

@GreedEU You don’t understand these topics as well as you think, remember to listen and learn above else

@Wai'ala Kāhele no I was replying to the OP. I’m not involved in your argument

@Michael McQueeferton Even if you’re insulting me I like the sound of that.

@Jo’kesha  I’m sure Lebrun struggles a whole lot.

@Michael Morrison is lebron white😂. if you actually follow him you’ll see him post the struggles he deals with being black in the us. try another person

Does Lebron James kids have white privilege?

@Michael Morrison well that answers the question

@Michael Morrison Let me guess... you're white?

that's the definition of white privilege.

@Jon Evans Saying that he's not acting is implying that he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong, but that's not the case otherwise he would've called the cops right away and not changed the story from kids to men multuple times.

@Alex Rodriguez its just an act based on what? He reeks of entitlement from the first couple minutes of this video and it gets progressively worse, Im not sure how he could be acting when the only acting he did was pretending he saw anything resembling a weapon and pretending the kids did anything threatening to him.

Nah that was just an act. He does genuinely think that everybody's stupid tho and thought he could get away with murder. Had he got away he would've taken pleasure by getting away with something he knew he shouldn't have.


His fiancee is a real hero of this story. Honest and honorable woman.

His fiancee is a real hero of this story. Honest and honorable woman.

she is just a normal honest woman who in her life endured unfair treatment of "strong" as*holes she always pick as a partner. This time she finally  met one that "has a heart and is such good guy"...she was finally happy. Too bad for her...he "was a victim his whole life" type of asshole with complexes in him....
So she once again...ended up as a loser in all this. This type of women who pick always the wrong guy....and this kind of "victim" white boys who "always did what is right and once they tried to do it different they pay for it....so unfair." Are on every corner..
No heroes.......just people

She's just a fucking normal person, dont call her a hero

She's just a fucking normal person, dont call her a hero

@Oznem Derks I certainly hope not-- and you're right about the consequences. However, my comment was aimed more at the opinions expressed here that she should have. I suppose we should remember that the YouTube comments section is filled with 14-year-olds ;)

@Agey bb bruh of course she’s gonna get in the car with the guy she had known for over 4 years and was her Fiancé! She had no idea what happened so there’s nothing dishonorable with her getting into the car of her significant other and asking what happened. Are you just purposefully not thinking logically?

@djcsr I don't think many people would lie for their bf or gf tbh. You can get a big sentence and she knew he was a monster after that.

@Agey bb he convinced her that they were trying to take his life.. I'm curious how that falls on her for staying with her significant other who just claimed to almost be murdered after SHE suggested to pull into the gas station

@Hathai wow you're a little to committed to defending her??

@Hathai wow you're a little to committed to defending her??

@Press Play it's a free country and she could've left him a long time ago.. Yeah their relationship was probably not going good and this was the perfect opportunity to get rid of him and keep his shit

Agreed. I'm sure that wasn't easy for her.

Agreed. I'm sure that wasn't easy for her.

as if he wasn't racist or doing dumb shit before that incident. who tf would date this guy? i don't think she's a hero at all. just someone trying to keep themselves out of trouble

Hope they are no longer engaged... He doesn't deserve this woman filled with integrity. Plus, their relationship may turn a bit toxic with a constant mindset like "I'm in jail right not because you didn't lie for me."

Shes cool but all 3 boys were better, like cmon their friend died

Shes cool but all 3 boys were better, like cmon their friend died

@Nurmi Koil apparently these heroic people would. At least that's what I would expect from them seeing they seem to love to profess that they're so unbiasedly moral.

@Rytis Gervickas people will display their righteous anger to strangers just to stroke their ego and ride their moral high horse

@Agey bb I mean, she didn't know what happened. Drejka just drove off. Why would she stay and call the police on whose behalf? She didn't know what happened. She didn't even initially know it was her fiance who fired the shots.

@djcsr Its good to see that the amount of like actually makes sense on this thread. Some people just are born to be against and that's it. kudos to the lady, she was shaking, probably thinking that in this wicked world, there was a possibility for him to walk away from this and his shadow would prey on her as she already had witness. If you follow this channel, you now that are monsters out there that trick the system or are just in luck, sometimes with the most absurd timings in history, and they just keep plaguing our world...

@Agey bb she didn’t really know what had happened until she saw it on the news the next morning.

@Agey bb she didn’t really know what had happened until she saw it on the news the next morning.

I think the hero is Tommy. The man who reversed, quick thinking to try and save himself and friends. This whole story is terrible, a life lost because you don’t like the music someone is playing? Evilness, after just attending his own SONS wedding. He would so carelessly take a child’s life away like that.

@Agey bb if your fiancé said “get in the car” all hysterically i guarantee you’d jump in the car too. this was her fiancé, most wouldn’t come forward at all so no need to be rude.

@ScheezyTV this man was clearly not a good man. He has extremely arrogant, narcissistic and showed sociopathic behaviour. She was probably subject to forms of manipulation and narcissistic behaviour in the relationship, and she most likely is insecure or something else to agree to be in a relationship with this man. On top of that, she was called up in front of the whole public to basically go against her fiancé and contribute to his life sentence, right in front of him. In combination with the pressure, manipulation, and other factors, it’s very likely she could have cracked and lied for him. Instead she told the truth. She’s not a knight in shining armour but I have respect for this

@Nurmi Koil well maybe his lawyer should have moved to exclude “spousal” evidence from court... rhonda’s job as a witness is to tell he truth. He sounds like he got a shitty lawyer

@ScheezyTV she stood against her fiance and told the truth, she recognised that he had killed a 17 year old for no good reason and instead of defending him like so many others have done (Chris Watt's mother for example, he killed both of her granddaughters and her daughter in law for his new mistress) she shopped him. She is both a better person and braver than you ever will be, have fun sitting behind your screen throwing insults.

@Sven S. I agree about sticking by your man in all times, but I don't know about these two, we are only getting a glimpse of a night that he flew off the rail and got caught. Who knows what other violent outbursts he has had in the privacy of their home. She seems so timid probably because the dude was abusive in some way or another. That said, I don't view her as a hero per se, but at least she didn't lie for his sorry ass. A 17 year old is dead because why? That's just so sad.

@Nicholas Jarvis It can be so easy to want to lie to the police in that situation because you know instead of dealing with them being pissed when you're home they will be doting over the fact that you had their back, and ultimately you are going home with that person. Im like 10 min in and I can already see how toxic their relationship is. Cool that you saw she was scared of him, I think you are right I'm sure she knew  it was  him almost immediately.

I have a 'controversial' take on Rhonda.

When you watch her full interview she is paranoid about being charged with a crime herself, especially for leaving the scene and not calling the police.

The detectives then get her to take the same oath you would in court to corroborate her statement in the interview.

During the trial she never contradicts her statement in the police interview. I wonder if she was worried she would be found in contempt of court or some kind of criminal charge for contradiction of an earlier statement.

As consequently, Micheal Dunn suggests in letters to Rhonda after her interview to state facts that he hadnt mentioned to her before his arrest.

@Agey bb it’s not like she was aware of the situation he did. They had been together for years and were on a trip for a wedding.

@Nurmi Koil you do realise that a young man who got shot has family too? I just don't undetstand this kind of thinking.Sorry that's just my opinion.

@Tay Tay Unicorn you're right thank you for taking the time to correct me

@Tay Tay Unicorn you're right thank you for taking the time to correct me

@Sven S. Standing by your man during financial, health, and relationship trials yes. Standing by him after he shot at teenagers, killing one of them in the process, absolutely not.

@Stephen Dedalus Jusy because someone is emotional does not make her any less honorable. The fact that she stood against the love of her life after such a traumatizing event is admirable itself. Unfortunately many people will lie for their loved ones either out of fear of losing them or fear of being abused or killed by them. There are a lot of true crime videos and podcasts that cover cases like that and it is absolutely gut wrenching.

@Nurmi Koil I'm sorry, but are you saying she should have stood by a murderer? I love my family and I would be absolutely heartbroken if any of them did this, but I know I my pain wouldn't be as bad as the other family's if they had their loved one ripped away from them in such a brutal and cold blooded manner. I find it extremely disturbing how you would willingly cover for a murderer just because they are a loved one

@Nurmi Koil Yes. I would. No one should stand up for a person who kills with no justification.

@Nurmi Koil Yes. I would. No one should stand up for a person who kills with no justification.

@ScheezyTV she’s brave and you think crying is week which is pathetic on your part okay no one asked for your toxic opinion

Stand by your man in good and bad times, she is def not a hero.

Stand by your man in good and bad times, she is def not a hero.

I'm just amazed by how many people think that betraying your family is the right thing to do. You even have literal laws that exonerate people from testifying against their husband or wife. If your son shot someone dead would you go to the police and turn him in? Because it's the right and honorable thing to do and the world would be a better place and society would thank you very much for this?

She might have been afraid of him, but felt safe enough to tell the truth once the police had her in the interrogation room

@Agey bb she should have gotten herself stuck in Florida? Most ppl in her situation would lie.

@Agey bb she should have gotten herself stuck in Florida? Most ppl in her situation would lie.

@djcsr Thank you. I never thought that people will react this way 🤔

@djcsr Thank you. I never thought that people will react this way 🤔

So many people here triggered by the word "hero." I guess they expected her to jump out, tackle him to the ground and grab the gun? Really though, when so many people in her position would lie to try to help the person they were with, she did the right thing and told the truth to the cops. I give her credit for at least being honorable in a world where so many people are not.

@Nicholas Jarvis true, she did say she didnt want to express her thoughts as he was already timid.

@Nicholas Jarvis true, she did say she didnt want to express her thoughts as he was already timid.

@Shaye Marina What's your definition of a hero?

@Shaye Marina What's your definition of a hero?

Most of these people have a comic book definition of "hero" in their heads, don't bother with them.

@Agey bb I wouldn’t run away from a guy who just killed somebody personally. Like. I don’t want to die too.

Eh I mean she did stay with that pos for at least a day before and that’s odd to me. Not very honorable in my opinion. She shouldn’t have ever gotten in the car or at least got away and called police after the incident

@ScheezyTV like seriously, what did she do to you personally?

@ScheezyTV like seriously, what did she do to you personally?

@ScheezyTV you don't have to be so rude if you disagree

@ScheezyTV you don't have to be so rude if you disagree