Quotes from this dude:  "They were thugs", "They're violent", "I'm the victim".
Also this dude:  Drives drunk, stops at gas station to buy more booze, starts a verbal altercation with teenagers and then commits murder
Everything this man assumed about his victims was actually projection.

Quotes from this dude:  "They were thugs", "They're violent", "I'm the victim".
Also this dude:  *Drives drunk, stops at gas station to buy more booze, starts a verbal altercation with teenagers and then commits murder*
Everything this man assumed about his victims was actually projection.

@Timmy Vawwter Class of people??? Ahhhh.....you are THAT type of person. Defending murderers....ffs

@Timmy Vawwter Class of people??? Ahhhh.....you are THAT type of person. Defending murderers....ffs

Stand your ground.<br>I can't stand society and its sensitivities.  The music was the problem and with dancing fool to add to it.  People push on people's liberties until there is a beef. U people got the race thing rite

Stand your ground.
I can't stand society and its sensitivities.  The music was the problem and with dancing fool to add to it.  People push on people's liberties until there is a beef. U people got the race thing rite

@Timmy Vawwter But they were parked there and Dunn parked next to them.  Witness 6? 7?  they play the clip where he didn't park next to the kids because he didn't like the loud noise.  Nice try to blame the victims though.

@Rand Paul2024 funny you're taking his words at face value, and not the fact that he murdered someone and doesn't want to get in trouble

@Rand Paul2024 funny you're taking his words at face value, and not the fact that he murdered someone and doesn't want to get in trouble

@Timmy Vawwter year seriously, how is that Drejka and Dunn are the ones who end up in prison when the woman was the one who illegally parked and the kid was the one in the car with loud music, and all the white dudes did was END THEIR LIVES….. the injustice. The people who thought they were entitled to break the law were the armed white men who made these situations into their own business…… I mean unless you didn’t watch the video it’s plain as day how often this man lied AFTER what he did cause he knew it was wrong…..the group of people ruining for everyone else, European Immigrants (white people)

@Emily Hannon he’s trolling don’t listen to him

@Emily Hannon he’s trolling don’t listen to him

@Timmy Vawwter if you have to shoot someone because of music wow

@Timmy Vawwter if you have to shoot someone because of music wow

@Timmy Vawwter  Michael Drejka <i>parked illegally</i> himself to berate a woman who parked illegally

@Timmy Vawwter  Michael Drejka _parked illegally_ himself to berate a woman who parked illegally

@Rand Paul2024 really, Rand Paul 2024? We're playing make believe now?

Ok.

@Rand Paul2024 really, Rand Paul 2024? We're playing make believe now?

Ok.

@Timmy Vawwter are you trying to say that because they were blasting music, those kids had a more justifiable death. Does it make the murderer… less a murderer? I would hope not.

@data ok, have fun in Algebra II tomorrow lmfao

@data ok, have fun in Algebra II tomorrow lmfao

@Garrett Goetz look in the mirror, stop projecting.

@Garrett Goetz look in the mirror, stop projecting.

@data You really shouldn't get into, any thing scientific, if you don't understand that some things in the world are connected lmfao

@data You really shouldn't get into, any thing scientific, if you don't understand that some things in the world are connected lmfao

@Rand Paul2024 Was he afraid for his life when he stood, aimed, and fired the last 3 shots into the vehicle rapidly speeding away? Can you explain exactly how that was 'for his safety'?

@Rand Paul2024 Can you explain what 'being thuggy' is, exactly? Since it's grounds for execution apparently, it feels like we should probably be specific

@Rand Paul2024 Can you explain what 'being thuggy' is, exactly? Since it's grounds for execution apparently, it feels like we should probably be specific

@Timmy Vawwter "I think the problem is the people playing loud music, not the murderers who feel entitled to the position of judge and executioner."

@Timmy Vawwter "I think the problem is the people playing loud music, not the murderers who feel entitled to the position of judge and executioner."

Literally, all it was, was some buddies listening to music and getting something. Insane

Literally, all it was, was some buddies listening to music and getting something. Insane

In his defense, they were playing auto tuned, mumble rap. Yuck! 🤣 (And, everyone knows it’s open season on Dodge Durangos. But it did have nice rims 🤣).

In his defense, they were playing auto tuned, mumble rap. Yuck! 🤣 (And, everyone knows it’s open season on Dodge Durangos. But it did have nice rims 🤣).

@OopsAllFrench I live in Canada so it is far different.

I would be interested in where you find your statistics though.
 I do seem to remember the current American vice president allegedly being implicated in a prisoner labor ring where she was increasing sentences for minor offences and pimping them out as slave labor while she was serving as attorney general of California. She is a woman of color, right? I would site that as a potential incident where we would agree that the system was misused if true. I do believe it can happen, I am a bit of a sceptic when it comes to the idea the laws are designed for it.

Anyway, I would be interested to see the stats and all the circumstances such as how many offences occurred before the one we are looking at which could impact a decision for appropriate discipline.  Also, I think it is fair to consider time period as well. We should be talking about current events as the nation has changed quite a bit, at least it was headed in a preferable direction.

I wouldn't suggest that racism does not exist individually, unfortunately, I am hearing it used commonly in arguments completely unrelated to race in any way all the time, which diminishes the meaning. I would suggest that I am not going to become emotional and jump on the bandwagon of racist laws and government structure in this day and age. If it does occur, it is not the intent of the system and is corruption in specific instances.

Racism is unacceptable, which is why I treat it very seriously. That is why I am careful to reject the notion when it is unfounded, misused in order to push an agenda, used as coercion to garner agreement, or used in ways that intentionally creates division and actually breeds more resentment which could result in racism. I find it just as repulsive as other crimes against people which is why I want to make damn certain that I am correct when condemning someone.

@Sapporo Ichiban our legal system extends far beyond the “laws on the books”.

If you’d like an example of how our society continues legal oppression of others you can read up on the average sentences given to people of different races for the same crimes (hint: black people are sentenced for longer for the same crimes than white people on average).

You can also read up on policing and arresting bias that looks into whether arrests are proportional (eg. white and black people use marijuana at the same rate but black people are much more likely to be arrested for it).

Or perhaps you’d like to learn about how long ago it was legal to discriminate against non-white people who were trying to move into a neighborhood and what happened to many of the non-white neighborhoods after it was made illegal (hint: many were bulldozed for highways, parks, stadiums, etc.)

It's always projection with these people. Pathetic

It's always projection with these people. Pathetic

@thurston4mor And the teens are still the victims

@thurston4mor And the teens are still the victims

@Ryan A okay💀 the person I was speaking to was definitely white and ignorant. Not all white people are like that. All the replies and the comments saw his ignorance and his utter disrespect. Stop focusing on such trivial matters and focus on the racism and disrespect these four black teens faced leading to a death.

@Dead_Chicken when he was speaking to his wife, Rhonda he still mentioned they were violent and showed no signs of remorse or regard. He portrayed himself as the victim and associated “ thugs and loud music” with these black teens. He thought he got himself to be the victim because they were black and targeted them. It was definitely a form of racism here and his disrespect to these black teens was disgusting and adding to your fact that he was drunk too showed his truce colours. I understand our point and where this is coming from but here it shows he was definitely racist 🤷♂🤷♂

@lucci's simp(I know this is an old comment, my apologies) well I'm not gonna say this guy wasn't racist bc it's always possible. But he didnt actually say anything racist, thug music is very much a thing and is listened to by all races (some more than others). Without assuming he's racist, it's way more likely that hes just a drunk, violent, narcissist who just happens to be white. And the kids listening to this "thug" music happen to be black. I'm pretty confident someone like this would do this no matter the race. Again, not saying he isnt racist. Just saying it is pretty rash, and quite frankly a step back in the progression of race equality, to assume he's racist just based on the fact that it is a white on black crime.

@lucci's simp lol how do you know Paul is whit????

@lucci's simp lol how do you know Paul is whit????

@Emily Hannon lol love how you’re projecting your own brand of racism

@Emily Hannon lol love how you’re projecting your own brand of racism

Sorta like you assume ex he was drunk  🤔  like you’re projecting he as an alcoholic

Sorta like you assume ex he was drunk  🤔  like you’re projecting he as an alcoholic

Sounds exactly like what a narcissist does...

Sounds exactly like what a narcissist does...

@Rand Paul2024 Please read the letters that he wrote to his family during his time. Just search up 'michael dunn letters' and read every one of them. He's a racist, and this 17 year old died because of racism.

@Rand Paul2024 he doesn’t say anything it’s his actions that do the speaking I believe there’s definitely a stigma attached to his crim!

@Rand Paul2024 he doesn’t say anything it’s his actions that do the speaking I believe there’s definitely a stigma attached to his crim!

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@Isis Smith I have looked up the word racism. It doesn't mean what you think it does. 👍

@Isis Smith I have looked up the word racism. It doesn't mean what you think it does. 👍

@Rand Paul2024 yeah HE said that based on the recounting of events from literally everyone else, that never happened

@Rand Paul2024 yeah HE said that based on the recounting of events from literally everyone else, that never happened

@Timmy Vawwter you accuse these 2 men of stereotyping, while you stereotype them, as this "class of people". Hypocrite. The two Michael's were wrong, their thinking is wrong. However you can stereotype anyone. Try seeing them as 2 individuals. It is not like they represent most crimes.

@goodwill lover How dare he ? The teens even put the music down as requested. They were in their own car - it was a temporary situation. He’d been drinking and looking for a fight. I think he shot absolutely deliberately. Heart breaking.

@Anthony Not entirely, I do understand what you were saying, there are individuals who are terrible people such as the guy in the video.

I just wanted to say that there are good people as well and we can't let emotional situations that challenge us, turn us into people we wouldn't like. I really do wish you well.

@Sapporo Ichiban I don’t know you’re hard to navigate, I guess I can give it to you

@Sapporo Ichiban I don’t know you’re hard to navigate, I guess I can give it to you

@rexthedog You are right, I should probably just stop. You likely saved me a lot of frustration. Thank you.

@rexthedog You are right, I should probably just stop. You likely saved me a lot of frustration. Thank you.

@Sapporo Ichiban dude. Your way above these people. Let them go.. some people are a lost cause

@Sapporo Ichiban dude. Your way above these people. Let them go.. some people are a lost cause

@Rand Paul2024 no my dad doesn’t want me meeting them because they are not in a good place right now, not because of me

@Rand Paul2024 no my dad doesn’t want me meeting them because they are not in a good place right now, not because of me

@Anthony Your black family doesn't tolerate you but your white family is accepting and loving? Why does this scenario sound so familiar... 🤔

@Anthony Your black family doesn't tolerate you but your white family is accepting and loving? Why does this scenario sound so familiar... 🤔

@Anthony That's fair. To be honest, you didn't give me a lot to go on and I did make some assumptions.

Again, there are not any laws that I am aware of that sway anything in favor of one race over another. That is the basis of a societies structure.

By all means, you are free to call me names all you wish if that is how you roll. I am quite satisfied with my speed, lol.

I would suggest that if you believe something is true and wish to be convincing, you may want to validate your argument with some facts. At the end of the day, you are right, I doubt either of us truly care what the other thinks.

@Sapporo Ichiban Idk what “Your government” Is but i do not define myself along with the uneducated and overly sensitive  mainstream media.

@Sapporo Ichiban Idk what “Your government” Is but i do not define myself along with the uneducated and overly sensitive  mainstream media.

@Rand Paul2024 with the gaslighting again 😂. You don’t know anything about me to say that. My mom is white and my dad is black. I don’t see my dads side of the family because he doesn’t feel it’s right for me. So i’m left to see my white side of the family who I love more than anything in the world. I also go to a predominantly white school and have a bunch of white friends who I hold very close to my heart. Don’t assume without the knowledge 👀. And to second. It’s weird how you’re defending a man who killed innocent teenagers who didn’t even have a gun with them. He played the victim card and if you fail to realize that, you’re the common denominator here. No one’s racist or has hate for white people and you can’t see that. It’s no one’s fault but yours 😂

@Emily Hannon I'm thinking RandPaul's statements are sarcasm. But still, it struck me when he kept saying "I feared for my life." That seems to be the go-to phrase used by people who murder innocent victims now.

@Sapporo Ichiban we don’t live in a white supremacist society…?😂😂😂 funny joke bsf

@Sapporo Ichiban we don’t live in a white supremacist society…?😂😂😂 funny joke bsf

@zer 0 Okay and what relevance does this have? May I ask

@zer 0 Okay and what relevance does this have? May I ask

@Rand Paul2024 you’re obviously a troll lmao

@Rand Paul2024 you’re obviously a troll lmao

Right! Honestly the privilege and entitlement shows when he asked them to turn there music down. Get over it. If you didn’t want any problems you’d just let them be , got your wine and moved on.

@lucci's simp That is what bigots do the best. Just that the ogre that assaulted the teenage girls at that smoothie shop. A lot of the comments were siding with him because his son had an allergic reaction. Telling someone not to add peanut butter to something is totally different from telling someone you have a peanut allergy.

@Emily Hannon
I have a feeling that the mental gymnastics are going to continue, so I think it should come to a conclusion.

I am just going to leave it at this. There are no laws that are giving advantage to anyone because of their race.

I responded to you because you say you are angered because you figure people are being place into a group and mistreated based on skin color and your solution is to use that to justify placing people into a group and mistreating them based on their skin color.

Sounds pretty stupid hey? And now you are going to actually try and argue that point? I would abandon that crazy shit asap.

@Emily Hannon You seem to think that people with a certain skin color should feel guilty for things they have not done and they need to accept the fact that people should be allowed to hate them for things they have not done. That is utter stupidity.

The citizens of Asian descent are doing the best economically in western society, there is plenty of white poverty in many places.

There are no laws on the books that afford rights or deny them based on race, period.
There was a time where this was not the case but that is not so now. Your theories are based on feelings and your expectations of people are unrealistic.

You mention sociology. Am I to understand that you believe a race of people are feeling insecure about another races confidence and so that justifies an adjustment through any means, up to and including mistreatment?

The only thing I am finding offensive is the possibility that people who espouse these beliefs are misleading people. You don't improve the confidence of one group by destroying another or labeling them as the oppressor, all that serves to do is start a fight, which people like you may well do.

I think you should do some research and stop feeling like conflict will give the desired result. I also think someone has convinced you to chase ghosts. I have noticed that racism has not even been a hot topic until it became a useful tool just recently. Make you a deal, stop saying that racism is justified and I will stop being offended.

@Sapporo Ichiban except it's not racist to point out the power that white people have and the ways that this unfair power dynamic affects black people.  people like you who call basic sociology "racism" is what's causing racial tension....  maybe try listening to where people might be coming from instead of getting so offended?

@Rand Paul2024 he clearly stated that he didn’t know if they were singing or mouthing that so your statement is actually false. You should rewatch the video.

@Rand Paul2024 he clearly stated that he didn’t know if they were singing or mouthing that so your statement is actually false. You should rewatch the video.

@LeaveBritneyAlone what are you talking about

@LeaveBritneyAlone what are you talking about

@Sapporo Ichiban stop playing the victim, no one has ever victimized you for being white.  i'm a white person myself.  how can i be racist against myself ?

@Sapporo Ichiban stop playing the victim, no one has ever victimized you for being white.  i'm a white person myself.  how can i be racist against myself ?

@Emily Hannon
So you are saying it is ok to have a problem with someone based solely on the color of their skin? How is that not racism?

You don't live in a white supremist society at all by the way, that is just silly.

I can tell you are full of hatred and that makes me sad. The fact that you would hate people for their complexion because you feel as though you have been mistreated would be the same as the abused happily becoming the abuser and trying to justify it with claiming to be the victim afterward.

I would never be an asshole to anyone because of their skin color, I just couldn't imagine that. It sounds to me like you feel justified in being mean to people because of their skin color. That makes you no better than any white supremist that you could find.

There are shitty human beings on all sides, that much is clear. Congratulations on helping keep racism alive. I hope you don't ever hurt anyone.

@Ash Lee. The guy in this video is a pos, no question. Those were innocent kids.

I would hesitate to use a racist statement in protest of racism in such a general way.

@data all racially segregated societies are operating under more or less the same principles; yes, the nazis were very overtly fascist, but as Frantz Fanon said, "What is fascism if not colonialism when rooted in a traditionally colonialist country?"

@Emily Hannon Please step far away from political conversations until you can figure out the difference between nazism and racism.

@Emily Hannon Please step far away from political conversations until you can figure out the difference between nazism and racism.

@Luna It's not semantics, it's just simply not nazism.

@Luna It's not semantics, it's just simply not nazism.

@data "uhhh akshually technically that's not Nazism 🤓"

You're just being annoying, no one cares about the semantics you know what they meant.

@data "uhhh akshually technically that's not Nazism 🤓"

You're just being annoying, no one cares about the semantics you know what they meant.

@Emily Hannon You really shouldn't get into politics if you can't even distinguish what things are

@Emily Hannon You really shouldn't get into politics if you can't even distinguish what things are

@Emily Hannon I'm not even gonna laugh, that logic is just straight up sad.

@Emily Hannon I'm not even gonna laugh, that logic is just straight up sad.

@data the nazis took inspiration from Jim Crow laws and the treatment of Native Americans in the US.  So defending anti-black racism IS actually nazism.  You're welcome for the history lesson.

@Emily Hannon Not everything racist is nazism.

@Emily Hannon Not everything racist is nazism.

To be fair asking someone to turn their music down isn't starting a verbal altercation, but close enough

To be fair asking someone to turn their music down isn't starting a verbal altercation, but close enough

“I’m the victim” <b>proceeds to continue shooting at the car as it drives away</b>

“I’m the victim” *proceeds to continue shooting at the car as it drives away*

@Rand Paul2024 NO YOU DID NOT!!! Her was trying to lie and manipulate his way through this. The teens did not do anything but listen back, not once did they do anything " threatening" or "aggressive". Disgusting how you are blaming the victims and one that lost his life bc of this racist man. Stop defending racist people bc it says everything about you.

Also also this dude: <b>*Beat his exes, pulled guns on them, and forced one to sleep with strangers in a swingers' club*</b>

Also also this dude: **Beat his exes, pulled guns on them, and forced one to sleep with strangers in a swingers' club**

@Rand Paul2024 yes, he CLAIMS they threatened to kill him. He has one hell of a reason to sell that as a story. Does not make his claim credible or true.

@Rand Paul2024 yes, he CLAIMS they threatened to kill him. He has one hell of a reason to sell that as a story. Does not make his claim credible or true.

@lucci's simp You didn't listen to the whole thing. They threatened to kill him!

@lucci's simp You didn't listen to the whole thing. They threatened to kill him!

@Rand Paul2024 They were four innocent teens listening to music. There are comments which explains his hatred and racism for black people. How was they being "thuggy" and threatening by sitting in a car and listening to music. Stop defending his shit

@Emily Hannon   Playing loud music during the day can be illegal depending on what the laws state in your area. You should be able to discover what the noise laws are in your city without having to dig too deeply. Once you know the laws, you might be able to simply call the police to get things taken care of quickly.<br>    Actually, You're right, Emily.   You're right....Mr. Dunn's attorney screwed up in not mounting a defense of intoxication, although Mr. Dunn probably talked his way into a hole too deep for the lawyers to dig him out of, during his police interviews.

@Emily Hannon   Playing loud music during the day can be illegal depending on what the laws state in your area. You should be able to discover what the noise laws are in your city without having to dig too deeply. Once you know the laws, you might be able to simply call the police to get things taken care of quickly.
    Actually, You're right, Emily.   You're right....Mr. Dunn's attorney screwed up in not mounting a defense of intoxication, although Mr. Dunn probably talked his way into a hole too deep for the lawyers to dig him out of, during his police interviews.

@Emily Hannon Why do you say I am white? 🤔

@Emily Hannon Why do you say I am white? 🤔

@Timmy Vawwter playing loud music isn't a crime.  but the white dude was literally in the middle of committing an actual crime (drunk driving) when he shot at the kids

@lucci's simp Did you watch the whole video? He said they were being thuggy and threatening him. He was afraid for his life.

@lucci's simp Did you watch the whole video? He said they were being thuggy and threatening him. He was afraid for his life.

@Rand Paul2024 what are you talking about. He shot at them because of his twisted reasons

@Rand Paul2024 what are you talking about. He shot at them because of his twisted reasons

@Connor S  In this case, as well as in the Michael Drejka case, it all starts with this class of people who think that they are entitled to break the law.

in the Michael Drejka case, it was the selfish woman who parked illegally (in a handicapped spot), and in this case, the thugs blasting music in close proximity of others trying to enjoy their own lives, but cannot, due to these people who have NO place in civilized society.   And, when others try to defend themselves, or try to ask the miscreants to stop breaking the law (i.e. illegal parking, illegal noise violation), they are the ones who end up in prison.   Society in these here United States of America, has become unbearable over time, due to this unfortunate evolution of society into one where one particular class of people makes life miserable for others


What happened that day is obviously a nightmare for so many people. I also feel sorry for Michael s son. It should have been one of the happiest days of his life. Now his wedding day will forever be associated with this senseless murder. Also, Michael states, idiotically, that he was "The Victor". How so? He's taken one life and ruined his own. Tragic and pointless.


I’m just so amazed at the outrage the officers are. They don’t even attempt to pretend to play good cop bad cop 😂 they’re calling him out on his bs and I’m here for it!


“I’m being charged with murder? Well that sucks.“. Damn ,what a heartless SOB. He murdered somebody’s CHILD. SMH 🤦🏻♀ So sorry for that young man’s family. NO amount of yelling or arguing was worth his life. 🪦💔 RIP


"I'm the victor, but also the victim" is such a revealing phrase.

@Epoch of An Era absolutely. Transparently feeble attempt to manipulate the authorities. Pathetic.

@Kim Kardashian Jong-Un not at all, mr internet psychiatrist

@Kim Kardashian Jong-Un not at all, mr internet psychiatrist

@Not Sure Yawn, unfunny trolls are the worst kind

@Not Sure Yawn, unfunny trolls are the worst kind

@TyphoonZebra Wow. None of what you said matters in this case at all lol. AT ALL.

@TyphoonZebra  Doesn't apply. He's the hero where the victim cried foul.

The dragon who sees himself as knight and damsel both.

The dragon who sees himself as knight and damsel both.

@JackBlackfan420 He was responding to death threats from extremely dangerous people.

I won, but the game was rigged. Shoulda just live and let live

@PinkDarkBoy No, I'm not ignoring anything at all. My worldview encompasses so much more than yours. I've forgotten more than you'll ever even hear about.

@Not Sure So are you just purposely ignoring all of the white rappers in history and the fact that one of the current biggest rappers, Post Malone, is a white man? Do facts really hurt your fragile ego so much?

@MGS3Snake6 It's the best drug of all: responsibility.

@MGS3Snake6 It's the best drug of all: responsibility.

Well if it was genuine self defence then that is accurate people do genuinely kill others justifiably in self defence but this case doesn’t seem like it

@Hollywood Star Let ALONE if they're loudly broadcasting war music. Which is inherently what rap is in relation to whites.

@Not Sure lol and he wasn’t forced into a tough situation. It was music. He could’ve parked elsewhere. Or ignored it like we tell young children to do. 🙄

@Not Sure This guy did not do the right thing though.

@Not Sure This guy did not do the right thing though.

It sucks when good men are forced into tough situations, do the right thing, and still get punished for it.

@BleedFromMyEarsBass lol bob vance … that’s perfect 🤩 i could totally see bob vance doing something like this.

@A Spelling Error No, he wouldn’t have. I severely doubt that.

@Bwah Channel totally. The “thug music” was so disgusting. So sad

How dare anyone back talk HIM , the mighty victor . The poor Victim. He is emotionless . If I even hurt someone in error trying to defend myself I’d be racked with guilt

Right.

And the fiancé was trying to get him to not talk about what happened over the jail phone, for a very obvious reason, but dumb dumb wanted to keep saying how he was the victim yet also the winner.

@folou I think he was angry that they weren’t “respectful” to him.  I don’t think the music was why he shot them. That was just a reason for the initial confrontation

His ego and entitlement can't allow him feel he can be a victim. He has to be a victor always

@Miss Misfits that’s racially prejudiced, isn’t it?

@Miss Misfits that’s racially prejudiced, isn’t it?

It doesn’t make sense like everything else that comes out of his mouth .

Saying he’s the victor is just so....out there. What kind of delusional narrative he painted where he thought he won some sort of Mortal Kombat?

Yeah, as if this was some sick game, and these kids were his enemy...

@A Spelling Error He wouldn't have shot them at all.

@A Spelling Error He wouldn't have shot them at all.

@Hugo Passmore what does this have to do w/ Trump? It reminds me more of Biden saying he doesn't want white kids going to school w/black kids bc it will be a racial jungle 🙄

Not really. Not everyone shys away from conflict. So someone like that who's bullied and counters it with aggression/intimidation would say something like this. Police are trained to do this to control a situation. Like a bluff but your opponent would need to think you mean business (that's a goal) to convince them to reevaluate their position and deescalate the situation. Note: I'm commenting on the comment. Not the video itself or anything within.

All white dudes like him think this about themselves in literally any situation.

Yeah you can really hear the guilt and remorse in every syllable /s

@Van 1:58 def was racist. That and the bite my ear off comment

If u come to say that after killing a kid u have problems

If u come to say that after killing a kid u have problems

@A Spelling Error Even before they showed anyone, when I heard the term “loud music” I knew they had to be black. My heart sank when I found out I was right. I am extremely sure that if they were white, or if at least there was one white person, they would not have been shot at. It’s a sad and disgusting reality.

@A Spelling Error Sort of doubt that, I cant really imagine that type of language he used at the beginning of the video if it wasnt, at least, partly racism.

I didn't know Bob Vance Vance Refrigeration was such a cold guy. But I guess it makes sense

Sounds like Trump talking about the election

Sounds like Trump talking about the election

As soon as he said that I knew it was to do with black people.....

To be fair, if he actually was in real danger, I'd understand, but... he's just a person trying to use self-defence as a reason for shooting kids he believed were thugs for... playing the music too loud.

People like these give self-defence such a bad name.

he knew they were listening. He was trying so hard lol

he knew they were listening. He was trying so hard lol


Wow, it’s amazing how someone can twist the phrase “I refuse to be a victim” into something disgusting, the way this D bag did. And it’s so obvious that he knew his prison call was recorded. He’s basically testifying his case to his fiancé on the phone. Not for her to hear though. But for whatever law enforcement is listening. To make himself sound believable.


This man is a dullard. After listening to the first four minutes of his interview with the police, it was more than obvious to me that he was fabricating several points to simply appear more credible, capable and rational. He belongs in prison. Excellent.


what’s funny is that cops get away with killing civilians over “perceived threat” ALL THE TIME…but I digress


If playing music a little loud and talking a little bit of shit is punishable by death to this guy, I, and most of my friends would have probably died fifty times over when we were 16-19.

I couldn’t imagine being so pathetically insecure that you pull a gun on someone for talking back to you over loud music. I’d love to know how he settles his disputes in prison, I have a feeling people will be a lot less diplomatic than “are you talking to me”. And there won’t be a gun for his sorry ass this time.


Man, you can see Rhonda is absolutely devastated that she has to basically destroy her husband's alibi, but still she soldiers on and does it. I feel so bad for her.

@average gamer The way I've commented the same thing on other videos (including the teen thrill killer one) saying the BOYFRIEND threw the GIRL under the bus, but nobody called me sexist or anything for that. But people still have the audacity to think it's about gender or something. Loyalty>all

@Jazza BigHits the way that they've explained the point to you so many times and you still have the audacity to miss it

@Costanza Check the video "emo teen thrill killer" and i note how the boyfriend throws the girl under the bus too. Nothing about gender, it's about loyalty.

@Emma Anderson As an Australian, I have to vote or I get fined. As for reproduce, do you mean sexually, as in have kids? Because technically my skin cells/brain cells/etc reproduce quite often. <br>Lol I feel sorry for your boyfriend. You should really try to stay out of relationships if you don't understand loyalty.

@Emma Anderson As an Australian, I have to vote or I get fined. As for reproduce, do you mean sexually, as in have kids? Because technically my skin cells/brain cells/etc reproduce quite often.
Lol I feel sorry for your boyfriend. You should really try to stay out of relationships if you don't understand loyalty.

@Emma Anderson Like I said, I made LITERALLY the exact same comment on another video, saying the boy threw his girlfriend under the bus. If you're in a relationship with someone, don't throw them under the bus lol. I guess some people just don't understand loyalty these days. Please don't get married Emma. Have a good day though :)

@Jazza BigHits basically im telling u that regardless of gender it’s fucjing insane that ur defending a murderer

@Jazza BigHits you are the one making things sexist? sorry i don’t blame the woman here for telling the truth lmao and i haven’t watched the video ur talking about but if the bf just told the truth then he is in the right. if u wanna say ur not a misogynist whatever idc. ur still weird asf for saying that a witness helping a murder be brought to justice is them throwing throwing the murder under the bus

@Emma Anderson Nah, check my other comment on the JCS inspired video where the guy reported his girlfriend (the teen emo thrill killer). I specifically commented the boyfriend threw her under the bus, and it got pretty much no response. Seems people just like to make things sexist or cause a divide when there isn't one these days, which is unfortunate.

@Jazza BigHits sir you are currently defending a murderer in the name of misogyny that is insane

@Jazza BigHits sir you are currently defending a murderer in the name of misogyny that is insane

not husband* Fiance
She is scared, but it could be argued that she realized he was fucked and decided to be honest, not out of sympathy for the boy who died, nor for the reason of justice... it could be argued her honesty was actually self-preservation... if she would have lied at that point or confirmed his story... and later found out that she was lying... she could be charged too with hiding or obscuring evidence no?
then again, she could be simply telling the truth for the sake of the truth, and maybe she does feel bad about the death.

I'm no coward, I'll jump under that bus without anyone's help!

I'm no coward, I'll jump under that bus without anyone's help!

@Aria jackson Grammar aside, you're entitled to your opinion dude.

@Aria jackson Grammar aside, you're entitled to your opinion dude.

@Jazza BigHits then your a horrible person. Period. If your significant other murdered someone and you don’t go to the police or urge them to go ur just as wrong and evil as them.

@Jazza BigHits “you shouldn’t get married because you won’t be able to be a sociopath and murder people because she will tell the truth about you” wow you’re such a good person

@therealslimsadie I'm not very nice dude

@therealslimsadie I'm not very nice dude

@Jazza BigHits when has marriage been about helping the other slither away from facing consiquenses of their horrible actions? If my wife killed some grown-ass adult for self defence, I’d stay by her side until the end. But killing a unarmed child cause of over-reaction? No fuckin way

And stop comparing Hitler to this case because you obviously have no idea what tou talking about

Such a brave woman, I'm glad she betrayed her friend; we need more women like her around - GIRL POWER!!.

Such a brave woman, I'm glad she betrayed her friend; we need more women like her around - GIRL POWER!!.

@Jazza BigHits Oh, you're not joking. Yeah I'd like to rescind those rights... she made the right choice.

@Jazza BigHits Oh, you're not joking. Yeah I'd like to rescind those rights... she made the right choice.

@Jazza BigHits I've heard enough. My child murdering rights deserve proper protection, even if they are virtually worthless!

@Chestine Johnson I'm pretty sure she could've reported him for war crimes at ANY point before they shot themselves in the bunker. The point is that one of the most disgusting/evil people in the world had a partner who didn't throw him under the bus.

@jaim haas Compared to what you're full of, I'm good 👋🏽✌🏾

@jaim haas Compared to what you're full of, I'm good 👋🏽✌🏾

@Jazza BigHits Hitler wasn't married to Eva Braun, and she didn't tell on him because she cowardly committed suicide along with Hitler, in the bunker they were hiding in! But how you could invoke his name into this conversation, and hold him up as some example for loyalty from his girlfriend, is stunning.

@jaim haas Surely you're not doing a silly juvenile tit-for-tat, comparing two totally different incidents? Why would you allow yourself to be pulled so low as to bring that to the table? Please stick to the topic at hand. ✌🏾

@sammygirl6910 Bravo! Great comment 👏🏾👏🏾✌🏾

@sammygirl6910 Bravo! Great comment 👏🏾👏🏾✌🏾

@Amelia Bee She probably didn't expect him to get such a stiff sentence. The shooting was pretty borderline and could have been justified. I think probation would have been appropriate in this case. It is too bad the aggressive sentencing ruined their relationship they seemed like they had a pretty good relationship going.

@Amelia Bee No, I didn't. I mentioned people getting thrown under the bus after getting married. In this particular case, it was by a woman. Gay marriages most likely end with guys getting thrown under the bus too

@Jazza BigHits really? he does a crime? and you blame the wife for telling the damn truth? if she covered for him, she would be facing jail time, why should SHE suffer for him?

She chose him, and was with him for 4 years. She knew exactly who he was.

She chose him, and was with him for 4 years. She knew exactly who he was.

@N H No, I'm saying even Hitler had a wife who didn't turn him in for war crimes. I guess marriage doesn't mean much these days...

@Sam Kostka That's more of an extreme case scenario. What if she catches you doing something accidentally like you accidentally put something in your bag/pocket and forgot to pay for it? Then she goes up and tells them you're a thief or stealing? Yeah, I'm good without a partner that throws me under the bus.

@Costanza Idk why you have to make this about gender? If she was the murderer and he turned her in, I'd have a go at him for throwing her under the bus too.

@Henry Graybeal If my girlfriend ever killed someone, I wouldn't turn her in. I wouldn't purposely get myself in trouble as an accessory trying to hide her, but there's no way in hell I'd turn her in. She's murdered somebody else, not me. If she treats me well I don't care.

@Kino Cartoon Don't get with someone and then throw them under the bus dude.

@Kino Cartoon Don't get with someone and then throw them under the bus dude.

@Bare Yeelos Imagine trying to race bait in a comment section of a youtube video. Go back to writing for Salon

@Bare Yeelos Imagine trying to race bait in a comment section of a youtube video. Go back to writing for Salon

@Costanza It's okay to say you don't understand loyalty or marriage dude.

@Costanza It's okay to say you don't understand loyalty or marriage dude.

@Costanza Constanza  don't be a simp, I treat women very well,that's how I discovered their true nature,social media and camera phones have also brought behaviors to light.

@SPIRIT13 THE1ST how did they use to make women? And who is they? Amazon? Santa’s elves? Are women assembled like cars?

@Jazza BigHits “how dare you throw me under the bus after I murdered an unarmed teenager” um I think you’re just bitter about women

@Jazza BigHits michael dunn was not married to Rhonda

@Jazza BigHits michael dunn was not married to Rhonda

@Kim Trotti I feel bad for the parents who lost their child.

@Kim Trotti I feel bad for the parents who lost their child.

@Jazza BigHits looks like someone can’t get a girlfriend

@Jazza BigHits looks like someone can’t get a girlfriend

@Jazza BigHits Nah Rhonda is who you want on your team. Willing to give the truth even when it hurts. A good woman, even if her man is a piece of shit.

@Bare Yeelos you mean like at the Waukesha xmas parade??  Get real and get your facts right.

@Bare Yeelos you mean like at the Waukesha xmas parade??  Get real and get your facts right.

@Non Ya so many USA women just don't get it.   I do...and you do.

@Non Ya so many USA women just don't get it.   I do...and you do.

I don't feel bad for her. She did the right thing! She has a real backbone, as opposed to her fiance.

I don't feel bad for her. She did the right thing! She has a real backbone, as opposed to her fiance.

@William Campbell Yeah, but for a completely stupid reason.

@William Campbell Yeah, but for a completely stupid reason.

Yeah what a gal. Wish I could find one that would divulge any and all info to cops and get me a 90 year sentence if god forbid I found myself doing something stupid like mike did .  She is Definitely a keeper

*Ex fiance but yeah she did the right thing and I have so much respect for her because of that.

*Ex fiance but yeah she did the right thing and I have so much respect for her because of that.

@Jazza BigHits I agree with you half way, you just have to find the" right one" ,which is nearly impossible.
They don't make women like they use to.
Can't be trusted ( not all)
I admire her strength and honesty.it seems all the good women wind up with the wrong guys, and vice versa.

@Jazza BigHits so you're saying you sympathise with the man who shot and killed a child?

@Jazza BigHits so you're saying you sympathise with the man who shot and killed a child?

@Kim Trotti I do honestly feel bad for her, hopefully she's doing better and knows she did the right thing.

@Kim Trotti I do honestly feel bad for her, hopefully she's doing better and knows she did the right thing.

@Jazza BigHits I don't plan on murdering children so I think I'll be alright

@Jazza BigHits I don't plan on murdering children so I think I'll be alright

@Kim Trotti Guys, this just shows why you don't get married. She'll throw you under the bus. And then a bunch of women on youtube will agree with her.

@sammygirl6910 well, all the more reasons to feel bad for her. And I'm also happy that she was able to tell the truth. Usually wives that go through that tend to protect their abusive husbands


Rhonda seems to be a loving, innocent and honest person. She had the strength to tell her part without covering or lying. God bless her and r.i.p to the young man in this senseless trigger happy violence.


Some high schoolers are having fun, listening to music in their car at a gas station: "My life was in danger"<br>Also adding: "Cracker" to your story at trial is disgusting.

Some high schoolers are having fun, listening to music in their car at a gas station: "My life was in danger"
Also adding: "Cracker" to your story at trial is disgusting.

Bro what does he think this is? 1997?😂😂 No one uses "Cracker" as a derogatory phrase for white people anymore.  It's so corny. But that's literally the only word he could think of🤦🏽♂


It’s amazing how brave people are with a gun. Take away his gun, I’m willing to bet my left nut the music wouldn’t have been a problem. He somehow thought, I run these streets at this very moment because I have a gun in the glove compartment. He’s been waiting for this Moment all his life. He’s even practice how he would shoot. Clear case Of shooting unarmed people because you have a itch. Best place for him is to be in jail in general pop.


His neighbour said Michaels previous relationships told him that Michael was physically and mentally abusive towards them. His neighbour also said Michael had tried to solicit a hitman through him

Yep, I believe that. I mean, how does a man who is so entitled he shoots at teenagers for their music not be an abuser at home? God, I can only imagine what his wife, ex fiance, and children have gone through.


"I didn't know I was being charged with murder... That sucks." His lack of empathy for the kid he just killed is stunning. All he cares about is whether he can bond out.

He thought he would be able to too, easy peasy ya know.

Steven Baker when they said we* I think they were just talking about general actions of the country, so since he’s part of the country he would say we* whether he is part of those actions or not.

mlc rip Right, but it very obviously wasn’t an accident

@Marisel Lopez You don't value black lives?? That's horrendous!

@mlc rip There is something missing in you.

I'm not sure really. If I accidentally fly killed someone I probably at first would be worried about spending rest of my life inn prison too.
See. I cant do anything g about the guy I accidently killed. But my life is still here.
So first few days in custody I probably would be thinking more about myself than anyone else incl. Victim.
That is, if it was genuine accident. If I acted hot headed and  as result  so.eone dies, I'd at first  probably  would be asking to lock me up for life. I assume.e it's just easier mentally to  get punishment, easier to cope with horrible thing I just did... kind of, closure for myself... not sure if I could live knowing I just killed someone..

Really sucks that I mag dumped in some kids car... and killed someone, probably would have done that differently.

Well some people lack human emotion and empathy who is sad but you can’t do anything about that as some people  think different ways  and have beliefs that regular humans don’t and won’t understand


I hope for safety for everybody. Rest In Peace Jordan 💗 quick thinking Stormy, I hope you and your friends get help to proses what happened to you so that Dunns actions don’t plague you forever 💗


I'm all for Carrying a gun to protect your loved ones and yourself, however this is a perfect example of what NOT to do.
A pretentious, Self Centered, Princess...
Under the influence of Alcohol, inserts himself into a situation that was there FIRST!!!  Then, has the audacity to tell people what HE doesn't like....
He gets told exactly what he SHOULD HAVE been told, gets his feelings hurt, then shoots and kills someone because of it,
He then tries to make himself out to be a victim.  👍
Yea..... This guy EARNED every Year he was given in prison.


Seeing people getting mad at the wife for "snitching" have me questioning whether they're okay with a guy willing to kill people over the volume of music you're not going to hear for more than 5 minutes, get off with no charge. Like how is telling the truth while heartbroken "snitching"?

That's just prison and gangster talk anyway. Civilians are supposed to "snitch".


The fact that he actually thinks he's a victim is just mind boggling....


Dunn killed that boy the night of his son’s wedding. His son and daughter-in-law will have that to think about every anniversary. No mention seemed to be made that he was probably drunk at the time. Condolences to the victim’s family and friends. Such a senseless murder.

@The Big Enchilada people who aren’t alcoholics or binge drinkers like me

@tmUSA he is an adult. the venue is giving alcohol to guests. nothing to discuss here. Would you blame the bartender of a pub for serving a guy two beers if he was 25 years old and paid for them, then went out and broke a store after drinking them? you are responsible for your actions , tipsy, drunk or totally fucked up. The only issue i would find logical  would be if someone would spike your drinks  with drugs ,but it is a fucking wedding. They just give normal drinks to guests and alcohol combinations.<br>The person serving you can deny you further drinks if you are too drunk but i don't think that's a legal obligation that the venue can be held accoutable for. nobody forces you to drink. Also after a few cokes and rum you wouldn't see the guy swaying around and exhibiting signs of being drunk most likely( reason...well he seemed to do well in the talk, cocking a fucking gun, aiming and firing). Also, if you plan to drink and go to a wedding i'd say it is a good idea not to bring a firearm with you? just an afterthought. Why are some people so paranoid that they carry it everywhere? Does he think someone will jump him at his son's wedding or on the way home?

@tmUSA he is an adult. the venue is giving alcohol to guests. nothing to discuss here. Would you blame the bartender of a pub for serving a guy two beers if he was 25 years old and paid for them, then went out and broke a store after drinking them? you are responsible for your actions , tipsy, drunk or totally fucked up. The only issue i would find logical  would be if someone would spike your drinks  with drugs ,but it is a fucking wedding. They just give normal drinks to guests and alcohol combinations.
The person serving you can deny you further drinks if you are too drunk but i don't think that's a legal obligation that the venue can be held accoutable for. nobody forces you to drink. Also after a few cokes and rum you wouldn't see the guy swaying around and exhibiting signs of being drunk most likely( reason...well he seemed to do well in the talk, cocking a fucking gun, aiming and firing). Also, if you plan to drink and go to a wedding i'd say it is a good idea not to bring a firearm with you? just an afterthought. Why are some people so paranoid that they carry it everywhere? Does he think someone will jump him at his son's wedding or on the way home?

random youtube Commenter secundar account

"turn the music back up"<br>'so you have chosen death'

"turn the music back up"
'so you have chosen death'

@watchgoose yes the bartender can say that.. but if you are adult enough to drink,  hold a driving licence, carry a gun then you have to be responsible for your own actions...
He killed a boy for no reason other than he was is  arse and didn't like the music and has an over inflated sense of superiority and self righteousness.. with that the usual bullying ways...
Plus I guess as awful as it is I would not be surprised if the fact the lads were young and black affected his awful attitude and behaviour.
It's interesting he knows which windows we're up and down but does not remember how many were in the car ..

@tmUSA the reception cannot be held for someone elses actions.

@GengarVenom doesn't matter on the amount and if he were "drunk". Any amount is considered inhibition. As soon as there were admission of imbibement, his ability to commit to lethal force was in question.

They mentioned what he drank. He wasn't drunk

@watchgoose I shouldn’t even have to say this, but me saying that he is old as fuck, is basically me saying that he’s old enough to know better.

When I reach his considerable age, I won’t be serving time in a federal prison, because I know better. 😇

@Elixer except that didn’t happen, all witnesses testified in favor of the boys, the threat to kill, even if it did happen, wouldn’t have meant anything, the dude wasn’t armed. Did we watch the same video bro?

@sweetstormz you think he's "old"?  wait until you are his age.  It won't feel like anything.

@sweetstormz at a bar, the bartender can say *enough*, no more drinks.  Nobody at a party has to go along with that rule.

@The Big Enchilada people who aren't steady drinkers.

@sweetstormz It would be up to the victim’s family to pursue ADDITIONAL damages. It has nothing to do with an old murderer. He would rot in prison regardless. If somebody knows more about the case it would be interesting to know. That’s it.

I literally watched the video. Thanks for summarizing?

@tmUSA I’m just laughing at the fact that you think it’s worth pursuing at all. Like, the man is old as fuck. Let him accept responsibility for his needless actions, please.

@sweetstormz Dram shop law - look it up and try to understand, genius.

@The Big Enchilada Legally drunk vs. blitzed is what I was wondering about. I wonder if the reception venue could have been held partly responsible. Just making small talk, friends.

Only 3-4 rum and cokes, who the fuck gets drunk off of 3?

@232 432 no, drunken people are held far more accountable than not. If you are drinking you’re expected to be extra careful in everything you do, and if you aren’t then you face incredible consequences

why would it matter if he were drunk or not? and it’s not about his son and daughter-in-law, it’s about the innocent young boy who was murdered

@BenTramer Yes, his fiancée said he had rum and Coke, maybe 3-4 I think she said. As we watched the interrogation and trial details, no mention of this as one of his many issues that contributed to the incident going down the way it did.


Bless Rhonda who actually shows incredible bravery and humanity.


I couldn't be an interrogating officer. I would have my mouth hanging open and looking at this man in utter disbelief after this total mess of an interview. Poor Rhonda thinks this is her fault and he's a first class POS.


When he’s testifying on the stand he sounds proud. He can’t hide the excitement he feels about shooting at those kids. I’ve noticed in my life as a black person that white adults often perceive me as older than I was and attempted to hold me accountable as an adult when I was a child. It happened at school, at friends houses, in public places. I never considered that this form of micro aggression could be a symptom of a deeper hatred that could lead to me being a perceived threat and therefor deadly until I got older. It’s so depressing. I’m never having kids. This world is too disgusting.

@Tom what you don’t like and what is a reality are two different things. At least 25 million people deal with racism in this country everyday. If you don’t fall in that category consider yourself very privileged or very ignorant/oblivious

@Hanan Adem "This nigga is Clearly lying"  ~  Dave Chappell

@Adrian people are obsessed with that word, I don't like it. We shouldn't accuse eachother in chats, it doesn't help. Don't like those two comments either but for all we know these accounts aren't even real.

@Princc Elijah well nothing other than people CAN fix those things so I'm not sure what you're getting at. And what's stopping YOU from making your own little perfect rainbow utopia if that's what you believe? Or are you just like most leftists and only capable of raging and complaining and blaming everything that sucks about your life on others?

Have kids. Raise them right. Make sure they're awesome, then the world will be more awesome. Giving up isn't gonna change stuff. I know it sucks and it's hard but dont let the present unpleasantness rob your future of joy.

Why are these replies so darn rude? Like get a life 😒 I’m sorry about what you’ve been through op, and I hope things get better! 👍


It's amazing how little he cared about what happened to the other people in the car as is evident at 43:46 when the investigator starts to explain the details of how lucky they were that 3 people didn't meet the same fate. This guy couldn't care less what happened to those "kids" as he puts it. It's very frightening that something like this could happen over something as trivial as the volume of a car stereo. What a sudden, violent, and terrifying end to this young man's life. I can't even imagine. So one moment, you're with your friends pulling into a gas station for cigarettes. Then the next moment, you hear yelling and then shots being fired and you get hit 3 times. The last things he probably ever felt were intense shock, terror, confusion, and pain. What a terrible way to have your life taken from you. He was 17, he didn't even get a chance to fully live yet. That's such a tragedy. All because some random guy didn't appreciate the volume or the type of music they were playing in their vehicle. How sad is that.


Not once did he apologize for his overreaction to killing a person over something as stupid as loud music.

@angryengineering this doesnt even make sense because those kids weren’t a group pf thugs? there was 3 kids in a car listening to music. You’re only saying “thugs” because theyre black.

@angryengineering " Not to sound racist " ....well u are

@angryengineering " Not to sound racist " ....well u are

@angryengineering hes drunk behind the wheel and youre defending him over the child who lost their life because you think they look like thugs

@angryengineering there's no proof they made a threat. The fact he's a blatant racist makes me not give him any benefit of the doubt.

Seriously, his story contradicted itself repeatedly. First, the music was too loud to hear them and he had his window up. And yet he then clearly heard them threatening him, when he just stated he couldn't hear them. Well, which is it, Dunn? It can't be both.

The witness testimonies match up with the teens' accounts, meaning the music wasn't that loud, because they were able to hear the encounter go down. Not once do the witnesses mention any threats on the part of the teens, but they did clearly hear Dunn say "Are you talking to me?" and "You can't say that to me" (or whatever it was he said exactly at that part). The witnesses aren't backing Dunn's version of events in the least bit. Why? Because he's a lying, self-serving POS who can't even come up with a coherent story. I mean, the bit where they were somehow coming out the door which never opened?

Seriously, his story contradicted itself repeatedly. First, the music was too loud to hear them and he had his window up. And yet he then clearly heard them threatening him, when he just stated he couldn't hear them. Well, which is it, Dunn? It can't be both.

The witness testimonies match up with the teens' accounts, meaning the music wasn't *that* loud, because they were able to hear the encounter go down. Not once do the witnesses mention any threats on the part of the teens, but they did clearly hear Dunn say "Are you talking to me?" and "You can't say that to me" (or whatever it was he said exactly at that part). The witnesses aren't backing Dunn's version of events in the least bit. Why? Because he's a lying, self-serving POS who can't even come up with a coherent story. I mean, the bit where they were somehow coming out the door which never opened?

@angryengineering yea his trial seemed more political because it ended in a hung jury the first time yet the prosecuters went for a trial again

Hey people are killing each other over masks so it doesnt surprise me. We are living in hell everyone

@angryengineering You got the whole squad laughing, the circus awaits you

@angryengineering You got the whole squad laughing, the circus awaits you

@angryengineering look in the mirror. The criminal is in jail. A kid is dead. Yet you're defending the criminal and not acknowledging the fact that a kid is dead. You're ignoring evidence and forming your own narrative based on what? "He could've stashed the weapon" LOL how genius? With cops combing the scene you think they missed a tossed stick or gun? You need help.

@angryengineering You don't know what to respond with because you have no credible argument and instead of admitting that, you're just going to not bother to continue doubling down.

@angryengineering why tf did he go out of his way to tell them to turn the music down????????? Couldn’t just mind his business as a grown ass man!!!???????????? They shouldn’t threatened him but he walked up to them??? The fuck? He could’ve just let the music b and call the non emergency police phone line and made a complaint asking for a cop out. Smh.

No no, he's a boomer, he didn't kill someone over music, he killed someone because he didn't get the respect boomers feel they are owed. They're like that.

@Atomix117 exactlyyy they proved it so many times.......if the music was so loud how did he hear them say kill him.......it makes no sense. Micheal is just simply crazy asf and was just dumb enough to think that a gun would be the solution to loud music

@angryengineering you know they proved they never said that......if the music was indeed that loud how tf did he hear them say ¨kill him¨ them???? Also if they were armed dont u think that was the first thing he would have told his wife

@angryengineering buddy they didn’t dump a weapon because as the detective says multiple times, “they never left the parking lot” there definitely ARE witnesses to back that statement up even if u don’t believe they can hear the yelling going on between the two vehicles beforehand

@Jj rich🎵 All you have to do is look at his comments to tell that's true about him.

@angryengineering so they threatened his life by playing loud music

@angryengineering so they threatened his life by playing loud music

@The Firm man i dont even know what to respond at this point so this will be my last comment. take care

@angryengineering well that’s IS what happened. Seriously do you only trust your judicial system when all the black people go to jail? And no white person goes to jail? Jim Crow much!

@angryengineering wow, this comment is loaded with supposition!

@angryengineering wow, this comment is loaded with supposition!

@angryengineering you have about as much of a point as an unsharpened pencil

@angryengineering you have about as much of a point as an unsharpened pencil

@Bethany Akaraiwe who is they and how did they find out? U seriously think the young guys just turn the music back up and that grandpa instantly shoots them?

@Bethany Akaraiwe BUT HE HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE UNARMED. He just parks his car, his wife got out and within seconds his neighbours shout "kill him". WTF

@angryengineering and 2….they found that no death threats were made…..he simply lied to build his character as “the victim”

I want to repeat myself: if a stranger gives u death threats and u prevent that, u should not apologize for it. I dont understand how u think this is some crazy thought. its basic logics 101

@angryengineering You're defending the murder because the kids were threatening to kill him. You shouldn't respond to a vocalize threat with deadly force unless the threat is credible. This dude was obviously scared shitless from a car full of black teenagers because he's a coward and unfortunately for the kids they didn't know they were dealing with a psycho.

He was irrationally afraid, and they weren't afraid enough.

@angryengineering bro he killed a kid and you’re defending the killer. Look at yourself.

@Lamech he should be in jail lmao. this is not my point. its the above statement

@Lamech he should be in jail lmao. this is not my point. its the above statement

@angryengineering Everyone understands your point, we just don't agree with it..and neither does the court system, which is why this murderer is in jail.

@comrade wolf u dont get my point at all

@comrade wolf u dont get my point at all

@angryengineering if you can watch a full hour video of this man talking aswell as the witness testimonies, and you can’t tell he’s lying to cover himself, you either have absolutely no ability to think critically and read people, or you’re a lunatic like he is

@angryengineering he’s a narcissistic racist and if you don’t see the issue with this situation you probably share some character traits with him, which is why you are empathetic with him

@comrade wolf "Not once did he apologize for his overreaction"

im telling u it is not an overreaction if someone is threatening to kill you.

"killing a person over something as stupid as loud music."

its not the fking music but the threaths.

" no threats were made"

suddenly u urself are a witness? Seriously man not to be racist but u really think it is impossible for a young black guy filled with testosterone and no future to threathen a white grandpa who just told u to lower the volume? think again

@angryengineering and my point is that stephen dacey is correct in the important part; that firstly, michael dunn overreacted, and secondly, that he did not apologise. thirdly, the surface story is about the loud music when clearly it was rooted in deeper issues; the music was merely an excuse, if anything. however, that does not make stephen dacey's statement wrong.

like i have spent a while trying to explain to you, michael dunn was not in the right and doing something like this would merit an apology. why? because dunn was a bloomin racist who murdered a seventeen year old boy. i have already explained to you that no threats were made, and no weapons were found. therefore, what excuse does dunn have? he was neither threatened nor shown a gun or a stick (as he asserted). so why SHOULDN'T he apologise? pray tell me where stephen dacey's statement is wrong in light of the facts i have explained to you.

@comrade wolf my point is that I dont agree with stephen dacey´s statement at all. It is completely wrong.

and to you I want to say:
"tell me where the witnesses testified to this threat."  there 2 cars close next to each other why should anyone witness anything there
" inspection of the SUV found no weapons." they obviously could have just tossed their weapons away before reporting this incident. Also it is not whether they were armed or not but that they threathened him. This alone is enough for some people to take action and its not illegal.

my thoughts are that he lives in a rich people area and is not used to being threatened on his health + they look like typical thugs + he was on his own in a foreign area

@angryengineering tell me where the witnesses testified to this threat. other witnesses also testified to seeing no weapons. inspection of the SUV found no weapons. who is likelier to lie: a killer who would possibly go away for life, who could shorten his sentence by pleading self-defense, or the fiancee AND witnesses? it's clear which side is likelier to lie.

your entire argument is based on the false premise that verbal threats were made by the other side. that said, you "would prepare yourself to fight or flight". you would not begin fighting right away and shoot without assessing the situation, unlike michael here.

and i also agree that it was not the loud music. i said it was pure and simple racism. you have missed my point entirely. i don't want to be rude, but your argument is both disrespectful and baseless, both of which are things i cannot stand. figure out how to read comments, and from there maybe you can progress to reading up the actual facts of this case.

So if a group of thugs is threatening to kill you you just gonna sit there and wait whether they walk the talk? I would prepare myself to fight or flight as well.

and dont say "they dont have a criminal record" u dont know that in that moment.

the last thing coming out of my mouth is "im sorry U threatened my life and I took that serious"

IT WAS NOT THE LOUD MUSIC like u are saying.

the girlfriend was in the store and thus has no idea whether such a threat was made or not

@angryengineering  because he killed someone over "annoying music" (code word, probably racist). there were no weapons in the SUV of the kids. dunn claims he was threatened with a gun or a stick; the girlfriend says no such threat was made.

so even though he has all the reason to apologise, i wouldnt expect one - just like you dont -, because he's an unapologetic racist (and that's not a good thing)

why would he apologize to people who threaten his life?

why would he apologize to people who threaten his life?


The crazy thing here is he <b>might</b> have actually gotten off if he had called a lawyer right away. He was clearly guilty, but if he would have said it the way he did in his courtroom testimony, who knows what would have happened. That’s just wild to think about. This dude might have been let go…

The crazy thing here is he *might* have actually gotten off if he had called a lawyer right away. He was clearly guilty, but if he would have said it the way he did in his courtroom testimony, who knows what would have happened. That’s just wild to think about. This dude might have been let go…


The beginning where he’s talking on the phone from prison to his fiancé about he’s the victim is disgusting 🤮 <br>The mental gymnastics Michael Dunn’s performing is worthy of the Olympics.

The beginning where he’s talking on the phone from prison to his fiancé about he’s the victim is disgusting 🤮
The mental gymnastics Michael Dunn’s performing is worthy of the Olympics.


“I really didnt know that I was being charged with murder and attempted murder… that sucks” <br>What a nonchalant and calm way to realize that you life is ruined.

“I really didnt know that I was being charged with murder and attempted murder… that sucks”
What a nonchalant and calm way to realize that you life is ruined.


Im the victor, but I was a victim too...<br>this guy is unbelievable.

Im the victor, but I was a victim too...
this guy is unbelievable.


I feel so bad for Rhonda like you can feel the pain in her voice when she says it was her idea to go to the gas station, poor lady.

I feel so bad for Rhonda like you can feel the pain in her voice when she says it was her idea to go to the gas station, poor lady.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski I don't understand why people respond like this. OBVIOUSLY the kids and their family have it worse. They lost a child, a friend, a loved one in a senseless crime. Nobody is trying to devalue that BUT his fiance now also has to deal with a guilty conscience and lots of other complex emotional trauma for something that wasn't her fault. She is also a victim whether or not you want to understand it.

@Jermaine Washington Did she know someone was killed when they took off? Or did all she know was he shot up a car. When she tells the detectives she saw the news it sounds to me like that is the first time she realized someone was killed.

I don’t like the baby voice she’s using in court. Seems put on.

I don’t like the baby voice she’s using in court. Seems put on.

@La Belle Lune Everyone's responsible for their own action or lack of action. Im not saying shock couldnt have contributed to her behavior, Im saying that it doesn't completely excuse it. And im glad they took the time to discern before just locking everyone away. However, I dont believe she's free because shes not culpable. Many others in her exact situation arent.

@The Life of Mary D. she was likely in shock. People in shock don't make good decisions or think clearly. It wasn't her fault at all and she carries zero blame

@The Life of Mary D. she was likely in shock. People in shock don't make good decisions or think clearly. It wasn't her fault at all and she carries zero blame

Yep, she’s the victim here.<br>This is the problem. Those boys will be traumatized forever and we’re saddened for the lady who witnessed it. I have some sympathy for her of course but how can nobody care about those boys and the growing violence they face. Gross.

Yep, she’s the victim here.
This is the problem. Those boys will be traumatized forever and we’re saddened for the lady who witnessed it. I have some sympathy for her of course but how can nobody care about those boys and the growing violence they face. Gross.

@Richard Milliken that's fair. But she knew he shot at a car full of kids and didn't call the police, at pizza and had a couple drinks. She did take the stand, was terrified, and her testimony helped seal a conviction. For that I guess she should be commended. But she really had no choice other than to tell the truth or she would have gone to prison herself if she'd lied.

@clear as water no way you’re reaching that far.

@clear as water no way you’re reaching that far.

@Pimparoo I hear you, but I can look from an outside POV and KNOW I would have done differently. In part because the only standard I'm holding her to is the legal one that says evoke the 5th, but don't lie or mislead. Or, if you're with someone who murdered another and run with them you've become an accessory. I understand humans react to stress in strange ways. I assume that had it not been for lack of evidence they would have charged her. But short of being threatened/ forced, the law doesn't excuse breaking the law. You're still responsible for you're behavior even if you're under pressure.

@The Life of Mary D. I don't think it serves any good purpose to look from an outsider's point of view and act like any one of us would've done better in her position. This isnt a situation you prepare for, you're thrown into it. No one falls in love with their fiancee expecting they might one day have to turn them into the police. It's a very disorienting and confusing situation you're thrust into and you have a short amount of time to know what the right thing to do is, ESPECIALLY when something as grave as murder is involved. Likely she was just too stunned to act on anything and waited for something to help her make her decision. Once the police reached out to her she figured out what to do.

Guys, this just shows why you don't get married. She'll throw you under the bus. And then a bunch of women on youtube will agree with her.

Guys, this just shows why you don't get married. She'll throw you under the bus. And then a bunch of women on youtube will agree with her.

@Eltanin25 The Soviet Union was very forceful, about that, I agree. (They glossed over how Laika died for decades.)

@Eltanin25 The Soviet Union was very forceful, about that, I agree. (They glossed over how Laika died for decades.)

@Eltanin25 One of the scientists working on the case, Oleg Gazenko, regretted allowing her to die. However, they should've at least tried to have her survive the voyage. Even if they had failed, an effort would've been made.

@Caleb Gann A decent person would have called the police. A decent person wouldn't have stuck by a murderer and dutifully called him to stroke his ego and tell him he was totally justified in murdering children.

@Ellie Walton Come on. 😒The ONLY time she could call is in the car. Not when they got to the hotel? Not before they left that morning?😊 No innocent adult in their right mind shoots at someone and or kills them and doesn't know they need to talk to law enforcement...right away! I'm not emotionless but a child died, because the adults around him who know better were careless and selfish. She lied and was evasive to protect her fiancé, granted...but your fiancé is a murderer of  a minor. I understand scared, but she wasn't afraid enough to excuse herself to the lobby and call 911. I understand where you're coming from but even taking into account human error, it's still hard for me to make excuses for a grown woman that wasn't directly threatened. There were definitely better decisions she could have made that wouldn'tve  implicated her. 🤷🏾♀

@The Life of Mary D. just think this. You’re in a moving car with a man who just confessed to shooting at a car just because their music was too loud? Would you really want to aggravate him even further by phoning the police?

good people don't get engaged to homicidal racists. She's a terrible judge of character and chose multiple times to not leave him and call the police on him. The moment she got in that car and drove away from the crime scene with him, she became an accomplice. I only wonder how many more times she has watched him drunkenly attack/kill young black kids and then helped him abandon the scene. For all we know, she only cares this time because it ended up on the news and she knew they would get caught

Hates thug music but shoots up a car park

Hates thug music but shoots up a car park

I don't feel sorry for either one of them... Doesn't matter who's idea it was to go to the gas station. It's not hard to deal with music in a parking lot for 5 to 10 minutes... If he didn't want to hear that music , simply leave, how hard is it.... Also she should of called the cops, I don't care if he's her fiance, wrong is wrong... She's to blame as well ...

There’s something wrong with you if you don’t have the capability to comprehend that you can feel bad for more than one person affected by a situation. You must be one of those people who shames someone for crying when they scraped their knee, because you know someone who has no legs. One has nothing to do with the other. Saying you feel remorse for his fiancé doesn’t somehow mean you don’t feel remorse for the victim. Grow up.

Yeah bro a kid died and you feel sad for Rhonda

Yeah bro a kid died and you feel sad for Rhonda

Well, Rhonda wants to detach herself from Dunn, completely. She understamds he has no future, and is hated throughout all black communities in America. Siding with him, no matter if he tells the truth or not, will mean she will live in fear the rest of her life, "the racist's wife who helped him dodging a life sentence for murdering a sweeeeet black teenage darling boy" -  is not how she wants to spend her life. She knows she has to side with the black people to protect herself from BLM rage. The good thing is that she probably told the truth, though. It's all pretty simple; she didn't want ANY part of this, she detached herself from Dunn with a surgical cut, so to speak. She doesn't want to hear his name, or see him, ever again.

@JIKitty thank you! That’s what I was thinking reading all these comments. It’s just that we feel empathy for Rhonda because she is being filmed here.

@JIKitty thank you! That’s what I was thinking reading all these comments. It’s just that we feel empathy for Rhonda because she is being filmed here.

@miki minach Which specific comments are "as if a child didn't die"? So when you grow up you'll understand you can feel sympathy for multiple people at once. And saying you feel bad for one person does not mean you are saying you don't feel bad for someone else.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski You understand you can feel bad for multiple people at once, right?

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski You understand you can feel bad for multiple people at once, right?

@Missaskia yeah I think that's suspicious too.

@Missaskia yeah I think that's suspicious too.

@Jermaine Washington also doesn't anyone find it weird she didn't want to go to the police but instead says to him, we have to go back home right now! I get that he probably was abusing her. I've been abused myself and I get why women don't leave but she just found out he killed a guy and her first thought is let's just go back home and wait for the police to call us if they find us?

@Hannah Beine exactly no one can. Tell anyone who to empathize with … poor Rhonda

@Hannah Beine exactly no one can. Tell anyone who to empathize with … poor Rhonda

@Tara Lamppa that’s the moment I suspected he abused her

@Tara Lamppa that’s the moment I suspected he abused her

It’s so odd to see people say “but no sympathy for the victims??” Like no fucking shit OBVIOUSLY we feel horrible for them too. The families that were affected, the poor kid who had his life cut short, his friends and others who knew him, the boys in the car, the son who has his wedding day be a reminder that his own father killed a kid, the wife who has to be reminded that it was her idea to go to the gas station and blame herself even when she shouldn’t. Plenty of people were horribly affected by this. They all deserve sympathy, don’t think because someone is showing it for one of them means that they don’t care about all. That’s a stupid conclusion and way to think. The only one who doesn’t deserve sympathy is the murderer.

@miki minach well obviously we also feel horrible for them too. I feel terrible for everyone in this situation except the murderer. I even feel bad for his son, who had his wedding day be the same day his own father killed a kid.

@Lord Northstar He did not deserve death for loud music and sass.  Sympathy for his family and friends.

@Lord Northstar He did not deserve death for loud music and sass.  Sympathy for his family and friends.

She is very fortunate she did not marry Michael Dunn.  He has a hair trigger temper and kills over loud music and someone who does not comply with his demands.  He eventually would be violent to her and others as well.

@Hannah Beine - I’m not white and I feel bad for this woman. I also feel bad for the boy who died, for his parents, for his friends who had their youth ripped away from them by being forced to watch their friend die. Your comment doesn’t do anything to bridge the racial divide and is rife with assumptions that are unhelpful. Of course you can emphasize who whoever you want to but then so can everyone else.

She's so sweet! I hope she's doing ok now

She's so sweet! I hope she's doing ok now

@Lord Northstar You might be surprised to learn this but some people can actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

@Lord Northstar You might be surprised to learn this but some people can actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

@Hannah Beine all I'm saying is just because you empathize with Rhonda doesn't mean you suddenly don't empathize with the person who was shot. There are comments epathizing with both of them. This one just happens to be about rhonda.

@Hannah Beine "you white people" jeeeeeeezus.
Have never said "you black people" in my life and cried for the loss of that poor boy.
Way to widen the divide...
As well as assuming that everyone feeling sympathy for both people (or those feeling bad for that chick) are white.
I suppose they are only women too, that feel bad for her.
And only men feel bad for the boy, right?
Cos that's how it works? You only feel empathetic for people that look like yourself?

@Hannah Beine you can feel empathetic for more than one person.

@Hannah Beine you can feel empathetic for more than one person.

@Hannah Beine You're assuming that everyone who is talking about Rhonda is white. That in and of itself is kinda racist. Even if everyone who commented about Rhonda were white (highly doubtful), it makes sense that they chose to fixate on her. She did the right thing and testified against her monster of a fiance. Personally, I suspect that the relationship between the two of them wasn't anything near sunshine and rainbows. Also, because it needs to be said, the kid didn't deserve to die. This was yet another case of a man with an ego killing someone because he got offended. Recently, another man with an ego ended up shooting and killing a six year old child after the man's GF was flipped over for cutting a mother off on a highway. These types of men need to stop being allowed to buy guns!

I think Rhonda fears, Michael I hope she has broke free since the prison call.

I think Rhonda fears, Michael I hope she has broke free since the prison call.

@Hannah Beine you can have empathy for two people at the same time hannah....

@Hannah Beine you can have empathy for two people at the same time hannah....

@The Life of Mary D. Let's be honest, she's the one who made him turn himself in. We all know he wouldn't have.

@The Life of Mary D. Let's be honest, she's the one who made him turn himself in. We all know he wouldn't have.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski What if I told you that you can feel bad for more than one party at a time.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski What if I told you that you can feel bad for more than one party at a time.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski nobody said that what happened to the kids and their family was not a tragedy. He or she was just stating how the pain in her voice affected him

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski nobody said that what happened to the kids and their family was not a tragedy. He or she was just stating how the pain in her voice affected him

Imagine carpooling with your partner just going to the gas station to get some water just water no snacks no gas, and hear gum shots outside just to find out it was them and they killed someone.

Imagine carpooling with your partner just going to the gas station to get some water just water no snacks no gas, and hear gum shots outside just to find out it was them and they killed someone.

Somehow I think Mike blames her for what he did

Somehow I think Mike blames her for what he did

Right, you can tell from the get how broken up she is about this. Probably holds some fault to herself for the event. I'm just glad she spoke up. And kept speaking up

Right, you can tell from the get how broken up she is about this. Probably holds some fault to herself for the event. I'm just glad she spoke up. And kept speaking up

the ultimate example of butterfly effect, one more dance one more drink, one red light or green light different along the way. life is truly wild that way

the ultimate example of butterfly effect, one more dance one more drink, one red light or green light different along the way. life is truly wild that way

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski these are the same people who believe a animals life would be worth more than a person of color.

@Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski these are the same people who believe a animals life would be worth more than a person of color.

I felt so sad for the deaf child and his family.

I felt so sad for the deaf child and his family.

I like how people are attacking you for not giving sympathy for the victims even though you never stated that lmao

I like how people are attacking you for not giving sympathy for the victims even though you never stated that lmao

@Lord Northstar they don’t care and it’s sad

@Lord Northstar they don’t care and it’s sad

Yea it sucks for her, but I really feel bad for those kids that were shot at and the kid that died

Yea it sucks for her, but I really feel bad for those kids that were shot at and the kid that died

She had 4 years to realize he's an arrogant, entitled racist punk and she didn't leave him. She only testified against him to prevent her own prosecution on charges of accessory after the fact. I don't see any redeeming qualities in her.

@Tara Lamppa

To be fair, that conversation was edited at that point, and it was actually her who started the conversation on what had happened by saying that she knows he's innocent.

@Tara Lamppa

To be fair, that conversation was edited at that point, and it was actually her who started the conversation on what had happened by saying that she knows he's innocent.

This dude would have done this sometime in his life no matter if she’d had the idea to get wine at the gas station or not... I agree poor woman probably blames herself. I just hope she knows that this man was a ticking racist time bomb... what a bigot. Casually killed and shot at young men in a car for playing loud music. Like bruh... the dude shot at people for playing loud music. HE WOULD GONE AFTER ANYONE.

She blames herself but, he’s an unhinged maniac who would have done this anyway

She blames herself but, he’s an unhinged maniac who would have done this anyway

@Dana Davison "nimrod" :D he sounds boring alright.. but.. nimrod :D

@Dana Davison "nimrod" :D he sounds boring alright.. but.. nimrod :D

These course of events were tragic it cost someone their life but at least there’s one less racist in our society and instead rotting in prison. Tragic way to make progress, people have to die.

These course of events were tragic it cost someone their life but at least there’s one less racist in our society and instead rotting in prison. Tragic way to make progress, people have to die.

She is just a sweet person. You can tell she deserves a kinder man.

She is just a sweet person. You can tell she deserves a kinder man.

@The Life of Mary D. TBF I probably wouldn’t have either if I was in the car with an angry man who just shot at kids for having their music too loud.

@The Life of Mary D. TBF I probably wouldn’t have either if I was in the car with an angry man who just shot at kids for having their music too loud.

@VideoEtTaceo I completely agree. she did nothing wrong but I also felt like she blamed herself for this young boys death. This man is true terrible person and he probably was mentally and emotionally abusive to her. I feel sorry for her. I hope she has moved in

I could see that she was feeling that the poor kids death was on her head. I felt her pain. I pray for everyone right now affected by this tragedy.

I could see that she was feeling that the poor kids death was on her head. I felt her pain. I pray for everyone right now affected by this tragedy.

She knew how he was and needed a way out. Their neighbors hated him and were glad she was rid of him. Not clear if he abused her but he did abuse in past relationships.

She knew how he was and needed a way out. Their neighbors hated him and were glad she was rid of him. Not clear if he abused her but he did abuse in past relationships.

@Vidalion Empathy is a double edged sword in this way. It's a heavy burden feeling the pain of others, I wish there were more people willing to share the load.

@Vidalion Empathy is a double edged sword in this way. It's a heavy burden feeling the pain of others, I wish there were more people willing to share the load.

@JIKitty Well, it is also about not knowing all details of a situation they are evaluating. The story about the dog (it was actually she, not he) is heartbreaking, but the people who shot her out to the space were not heartless bastards. They were sorry for her and were remembering her with tears in their eyes after decades. She was not the only dog to die in that program, but she was the only one they knew for sure that was going to die. It was political decision - the USSR leaders wanted a living animal in the space earlier than USA. The scientists didn't have the way to bring the capsule back to the Earth yet, but politicians said: "Doesn't matter, we are doing it now." So the space program guys didn't have a choice (it was USSR, 1950s, disobeying could have meant something very ugly for that person and their family.) They chose the dog, they constructed mechanism that was to eutanize the dog after few orbits, so she didn't suffer. In reality something broke and she died due to stress and overheating, but that was an unintended accident. She was also a street dog cought on the streets and brought to the space program. She died an ugly death, but before the death she lived more happily in that space program than she would have on the streets. Also - had she survived the experiments (like some others dogs from the program) she would have been adopted to a family and have a nice rest of life. Therefore for the surviving dogs the space program was a good thing that happened to them and for all the dogs it was a chance for better life. So the story is more complicated and less clear if you tell it whole and not just in a shortcut on the beginning of semester.

@Memphis Bangkok If there was a scene in the video where the mother of the victim would talk and her voice would crack - people would feel a lot of empathy for her. So much so, they would probably shed a tear (I would). It's just, that we don't get to know the mother, other family members of the victim or the other boys. That's why just watching the video you wouldn't grow attached to them. That's very natural and nothing to insult someone about.

When I was a teenager, our history teacher put up a couple of short articles about historical events to introduce a new topic for the semester. There was one article about a dog that was shot into space. Another one talked about the death of 50000 or something adults and children, who had frozen to death while forced to cut a ditch or something like that. I don't remember precisly. Eather way, everyone in class was asking about the dog and whether he survived or not (he didn't) and how they where able to do such a thing to an innocent dog. So they where outraged about that story with the dog, but not about the one with the 50000 humans. But that was not, because they where "disgusting" as you say, but because they were not able to empathise with 50000 nameless and faceless people all at once. Which is actually human.

what about her telling the truth (i presume) about him not having told her about them having a gun, rather than covering for him, knowing that by telling the truth, she would incriminate him...<br>that must have pained her.

what about her telling the truth (i presume) about him not having told her about them having a gun, rather than covering for him, knowing that by telling the truth, she would incriminate him...
that must have pained her.

Also a very good question to ask by the prosecution. It is not that important for the crime commited, but it shows that Rhonda tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth, even if its painful for herself.

Also a very good question to ask by the prosecution. It is not that important for the crime commited, but it shows that Rhonda tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth, even if its painful for herself.

@Caleb Gann I agree. I admire her strength and courage. So glad she got another chance. But devastated that young man had to lose his life over a piece of trash crying over loud "thug" music. I can't stand looking at and hearing this man, a waste of air is what I mean

But no sympathy for the actual murder victim?

But no sympathy for the actual murder victim?

Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski exactly my thought all the comments are about rhonda as if a child didn’t die and his family has to deal with that

Quinten and JoAnn Klonowski exactly my thought all the comments are about rhonda as if a child didn’t die and his family has to deal with that

@VideoEtTaceo She didnt call the police after he told her he "shot a car" either. Telling the truth in court is the only thing that makes me feel better about them not charging her as an  accessory after the fact

@VideoEtTaceo She didnt call the police after he told her he "shot a car" either. Telling the truth in court is the only thing that makes me feel better about them not charging her as an  accessory after the fact

what!!! I FEEL BAD FOR THOSE KIDS AND THEIR MOTHERS!!! THEY WERE SHOT AT AND THE 17 YR OLD DIED.....SHHHHHEEEESH PEOPLE!!

what!!! I FEEL BAD FOR THOSE KIDS AND THEIR MOTHERS!!! THEY WERE SHOT AT AND THE 17 YR OLD DIED.....SHHHHHEEEESH PEOPLE!!

I really hope she got help. It clear wasn't her fault. She seemed like a decent person just trapped in a bad situation with someone she loved. I'm glad she actually told the truth and didn't make up lies to get herself in trouble.

It is often those with no real culpability who blame themselves, while many who are guilty have a hundred excuses for why their bad behavior was everyone else’s fault.

It is often those with no real culpability who blame themselves, while many who are guilty have a hundred excuses for why their bad behavior was everyone else’s fault.


The satisfaction that we get from watching the Black detective inform him that “there were NO WEAPONS in the vehicle” and Dunn’s whole demeanor shifted.

Did it really shift though? He didn’t seem to care that much.


The perpetrator is a cowardly bully. I'm glad he didn't get away with it.


"What is the name of your dog?"
Sniffles, puts handkerchief up to his mouth, starts crying
"His name is Charlie"
Breaks down crying

"What is the name of your dog?"
*Sniffles, puts handkerchief up to his mouth, starts crying*
"His name is Charlie"
*Breaks down crying*

He was likely thinking how he wouldn’t be able to return to the comfort of his home and see his dog. :P


I feel like he thought if he claimed that he was threatened, everybody would believe he was justified because the kids were black. We see too many people try racist shit like that... glad he didn't get away with it.