Thanks for the shout-out Sawtooth. For anyone that is curious, our next session should be Sunday.

@The Nameless One they others did they same.

@The Nameless One thorax noticed that he wanted something that chrysalis didn't have and that's  friends.

I know  it was that sombra was around but was vanishing him really necessary?

@Claude VanVlack  i doubt he even has a wife

Storm kings son can make a stone to flesh alchemical bomb.

If chrysalis can reform than maybe her son thorax can forgive her.

You went from 23 subs to how many subs you have now. That’s the power of getting a shoutout from a very popular youtuber.

Do know what i hate? When the creators never answer small important questions like bro it ended answer them uahauahauaha

Omg nameless one you have been so popular I’ve always wanted to talk to you :D

@ALYA_KASIM01 I AM THE BIGGEST MLP FAN! NO ONE LOVES MLP MORE THAN ME!!!

What new season, Sawtooth are you saying that there is a new season of MLG

@Alexa Smith their DnD session Dunegon and dragons.

Or never judging by that ending. He got turned to stone!


Not to also mention that a changeling’s abilities revolves around... changing. Couldn’t some unreformed changelings disguise themselves as the reformed changelings?

This is what keeps me thinking about g4 unreformed changelings


ok, do you remember, Tempest Shadow's real name is Fizzlepop Berrytwist?

Tongue twister! im better with tempest shadow

@it's fuyumi its not a star bear its an ursa minor

I do but what does this has to do  with this video

@it's fuyumi I know it’s late but in the book it further explains. She ran away after

@Hyenas are Nice I think she's an orphan with the others orphans...

Why did I forget?,that like the best name😂😂

Ofc, i could never forget

This was only to change the amount of replies

@Hyenas are Nice Jes, or What a Cutie Mark she have...

@Hyenas are Nice good piont theres probaly a video bout that

Ok, did you now derpy saved the movie from ending early (my opinion)

@it's fuyumi ya she was playing with her friends and its not star bears they r called the ursa major/minor that broke her horn  and she could use magic but hers was hard to control so it was dangerous her friends were scared of her and ya

Bruh I watched that movie 3 years ago<br>Sorry no offense

Bruh I watched that movie 3 years ago
Sorry no offense

@it's fuyumi I have two corrections to make.
1. The danger star bear is called an Ursa Minor
2. It is spelt "accidentally", not "acstintly"

@Best Buddy idkbut they prob disowed herhaha

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, WHY DIDN'T SAWTOOTH DO THAT? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

@it's fuyumi She is talking about what happened after the movie?

@it's fuyumi The star bears are Ursa majors

sweet birds well that’s her entire plot in the movie, what this person is wondering is what happened to her family, where are they, who are they??

@Best Buddy I bet cozy glows parents would have smacked luna, celestia and discord in the face

I rewatched the movie 6 times in quarantine, I KEEP ON CRYING WHEN I WATCH IT

twinning profile pictures are my addiction

i think the name tempest shadow is given by the storm king what if her real name was fizzlepop berrytwist

Yes that was the best thing about the whole movie her real name 😍like yesss

@Hyenas are Nice I was wondering who is cozy glows parents, she still a child

This is just random but why did they make thorax this tall king teenager? And have Queen Chrysalis not reformed BUT many people do speed paints if queen chrysalis in all these colors

I suppose that queen chrysalis parents we're named queen moth and king cacoon (I'm bad at this)

@VcSaJen THANK YOU THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION (why am I doing caps locks) it does make sense oh and remember that terek is a centuar which is a horse person and queen chrysalis is a changeling so she came out of a chrysalis but mom and dad are unkown???????

@it's fuyumi yes I know but what I mean was what happened to her after the movie which I did see her in the last episode but what did she do after the movie?

Lily Usina: Better question is, who is Chrysalis' mom and dad? Or Cozy Glow's? We know that Tirek had a father, though.

I remember probably the best scene ever...

I remember probably the best scene ever...

@Hyenas are Nice I know what happened she was a little pony playing with her friend the ball acstintly rolled to the dangers star bears cave she went and got attacked by the bear her horn was broken she couldn't use much magic so she had no friends she prefer to be alone so she worked with the storm king to restore her horn

Did anyone think about it? Who is tempest shadows mom or dad? Where did she go? What happened?!?

I just watched the movie yesterday I love the name 😂


Ok, this is just my opinion! We need Grogar the Necromancer to :
1- free Queen Chrysalis, Cozy Glow & Lord Tirek from stone
2- resurrect King Sombra
3- deform some of the good guys (maybe Discord lol) and especially some of the Changelings
4- unite all the villains & anti-heroes against the mane6 and their friends
5- Boss Battle Showdown!!!

Ok, this is just my opinion! We need *Grogar the Necromancer* to :
1- free Queen Chrysalis, Cozy Glow & Lord Tirek from stone
2- resurrect King Sombra
3- deform some of the good guys (maybe Discord lol) and especially some of the Changelings
4- unite all the villains & anti-heroes against the mane6 and their friends
5- Boss Battle Showdown!!!

Don't forget to throw some nightmares at the moon

@Otaku-sempai he could be in the sky because after his bell was put on the mountain maybe Dusty realized something had to be done to him but since the tree of Harmony did not Sprout the Elements of Harmony yet the only punishment that could be done them to somewhere in the sky similar to what they did Nightmare Moon only he was not put in something that is a part of the sky he was put in the sky it's self and Discord possibly found out this and realize he could see everything he realize he could pretend to be grogar and then when he makes his team he could tell them This I have seen all your humiliating defeats in the face of six puny ponies so maybe he had this plan already planned out before he even executed it and possibly all the villains we have met so far mayhave had defeats before we have even met them I mean we already know about 2 there are possibilities and then maybe when the magic disappeared he may have escape from his imprisonment or he may have gotten back in his imprisonment either way you look at it he may be stuck in the sky just like Nightmare Moon

@Peter Krochmalni Maybe the realm of the dead in MLP is just aother dimension, and we all know that Discord can easily take creatures from dimension to dimension.

@Ramy I don't know. Discord can be pretty stupid. But I don't think he could handle hurting Fluttershy again.

@DeathStare_EXE that was shut down by creator. She said Celestia did it.<br>Also we need giant spider as ultimate enemy.

@DeathStare_EXE that was shut down by creator. She said Celestia did it.
Also we need giant spider as ultimate enemy.

Eclipse /NightMARE_ <br>The real Grogar still exists. Discord was just pretending to be him to set up Twilight. Just because there’s a copy of a character doesn’t mean they don’t exist altogether.

Eclipse /NightMARE_
The real Grogar still exists. Discord was just pretending to be him to set up Twilight. Just because there’s a copy of a character doesn’t mean they don’t exist altogether.

@Eclipse Grogar still existed, before Discord. IMAO, you're the one who didn't watch the show properly. In the first episode of season 9 : Tirek, Sombra and Chrysalis recalled Grogar regardless to Discord. Tirek even said : "I remember hearing myths about his (Grogar's) tyranny, when I was young." and Sombra said : "I also heard of him (Grogar) as the first emporer of Equestria and father of monsters" also the producers of the show confirmed Grogar's existence after the finale.

@Eclipse Grogar still existed, before Discord. IMAO, you're the one who didn't watch the show properly. In the first episode of season 9 : Tirek, Sombra and Chrysalis recalled Grogar regardless to Discord. Tirek even said : *"I remember hearing myths about his (Grogar's) tyranny, when I was young."* and Sombra said : *"I also heard of him (Grogar) as the first emporer of Equestria and father of monsters"* also the producers of the show confirmed Grogar's existence after the finale.

...<br>Grogar was just Discord in disguise. Have you not watched the episodes?

...
Grogar was just Discord in disguise. Have you not watched the episodes?

@Less Than a Million Subs Community yeaaaa

SonicFan4Life 007 <br>There’s actually a theory he was the one that released Nightmare Moon and he’s trapped in the stars as the constellation Aires. It’s not confirmed for all I know but it would make sense why 4 stars circled the moon before Nightmare Moon’s release. He might be coming back for Gen 5 as the villain the new student six or the young six have to deal with.

SonicFan4Life 007
There’s actually a theory he was the one that released Nightmare Moon and he’s trapped in the stars as the constellation Aires. It’s not confirmed for all I know but it would make sense why 4 stars circled the moon before Nightmare Moon’s release. He might be coming back for Gen 5 as the villain the new student six or the young six have to deal with.

The world may never know. Unless the 2021 movie, will show him.

@Peter Krochmalni Discord was Grogar, during the entire season 9. Also, Discord is powerful enough to resurrect King Sombra all by his own , but the Real Grogar is even more powerful than Discord (his bell proved it). At the ending, we saw Discord, returning everyone's magic from the bell to its owner including the remaining magic in the bell to Grogar. That amount of magic would be like an "activation energy" to summon the real Grogar from whatever place he's stuck with. I have 2 suggestions : Grogar is either stuck in another dimension, like the Pillars + Pony of Shadows, which they called it "Limbo" (idk why they called it that way lol) or he's imprisoned in a dark place, like "Lyric The Last Ancient" (this is not an MLP villain, I just brought him as an example)

So, was Discord Grogar the whole time in season 9? Or was that the real Grogar in the first half then he and Discord just tag teamed out and Discord was Grogar in the last half of the season? Because how was Discord able to resurrect Sombra? Unless the real Grogar was the one who resurrected Sombra then there is still the real Grogar to contend with.

Wonder which former villains would he turn back into villains?

Hoping that Luna gets a key role with Grogar's defeat.
By that I mean not get worf-effect again..

SonicFan4Life 007 <br>Grogar is not going to have Discord again since Maybe he is The Father Of Discord and wants to make sure he is fine.

SonicFan4Life 007
Grogar is not going to have Discord again since Maybe he is The Father Of Discord and wants to make sure he is fine.

Okay, seriously, why do people call Grogar a necromancer? He never raised anyone from the dead in g1, nor was such a thing ever alluded to.

@Sarah Zahira seriously man? Do you think Grogar hires soldiers to fight?

@JetDoes Ikr! The first part is always so exciting but then at the end they almost always just blast a huge rainbow at the villain. Kinda anticlimactic if you ask me. :/

Nah, I think Discord cares to much about Fluttershy to do that. (and maybe kk (Celestia))

Honestly I actually like that opinion. 😅

Ponies: It's a beautiful da- WHAT IN THE NAME OF QUEEN GALAXIA?!?!

@Otaku-sempai twightlight body (iluminati sound effect)

I don’t think the reformed villains would want to be deformed. They know enough about friendship now.

Bacon hair Twilight: Ah, Luster Dawn, life is so good in Eq- Why do I hear boss music?

I’m pretty Sure after betraying them 2 times ,discord won’t be stupid enough to betray them again,But your right that could be cool,but just not the discord part😂

Yeah, the real Grogar could still be out there somewhere. But where could he have been for all this time?

well. I call team villien! I wounce kicked a cop on accident

Biggest problem is that every threat in the entire series has been solved with a rainbow laser deux ex machina


Chrysalis is hands down one of the all time best villains in the FIM series, and i won't lie it would be nice to see how it would turn out if she somehow got freed from her stone prison, in fact part of me still wonders what Chrysalis would've looked liked as a reformed Changeling, but oh well.

But we don’t never ALL the villains redeemed

honestly Chrysalis needed this time in stone not really as a punishment but in order to get her head in order and maybe with the lessons learned during the team up might have taught her sustainable stratagems she could be dangerous but she'll need time to rebuild and serious reflection if she ever wants to win

I can say that reformed Chrysalis would be really pretty.

She's much better as a villain. I love her design and I don't want to know her reformed form would look like because I don't have a good feeling about that.


I wonder if Cozy Glow will be a grown mare when the spell wears off or if she'll still be a filly because of the stone, since it's practically pressuring her whole body.

She will probably be a filly, being like this thing that happened in manifest where people they knew aged but she hadnt

When luna was night mare moon she didn't age so maybe the same with the stone spell

@Kaylee Lomas Last I checked alicorns were never confirmed immortal in the show.

@MidnightMuffin Well, unless I’m mistaken, alicorns are referred to as immortal. Generally the definition of immortal is not being able to die of natural causes, and starvation is a natural cause. That ways the only reason they’d it is because of that. Its also possible that they can starve, but never die from it.

@Kaylee Lomas "They only ever eat for pleasure." When was that established?

@The Commenter Dragon ye that makes sense

@The Commenter Dragon ye that makes sense

She isnt inside the stone she is the stone its like limbo time stops

@Ur local sociopath That could happen too.

@Ur local sociopath That could happen too.

Makes sense since Luna didn't really grew up that much when she was banished to the moon 1,000 years a go as well.

@Pickles Well, in that case, that's a great example.

@Bees Meliss Oh yeah, I was just using her as an example (and being stuck in the moon and turned to stone are different, but not <b>that</b> different; it's basically a giant space rock.)

@Bees Meliss Oh yeah, I was just using her as an example (and being stuck in the moon and turned to stone are different, but not *that* different; it's basically a giant space rock.)

@Pickles I wasn't talking about Luna but what you said about her is interesting.

Luna stopped growing and aging when she was trapped in the moon. Faust said she'd be as big as Celestia one day. Hence the "little sister."

I don't think she'd mature mentally tho. Not doing anything and all

I'm making cozy glow a grown mare when she's out of stone in my audio drama that's coming soon

i would say that she wouldn't age because discord didn't, but he's an immortal god

I'm sure she's going to stay a filly or something "magical" happens cuz that logic of MLP

It's unclear how 'aware' she'll be. Twilight didn't seem to know of anything that happened after she got turned back. But Mudbriar gave hints he was still sentient while he was stone. Discord knew what was going on around him, but he's Discord

Being in stone is probably like suspended animation (unless you're Discord). So she probably won't age at all.

On the other hoof, I like the idea of them being (at least somewhat) aware of each other and their surroundings.

Well, when your trapped in stone, I don't think you age.

@The Commenter Dragon That's what Cozy should have been in the first Place.

I doubt that she would age, but if she did, she may die via internal fracturing when she is freed.

@The Commenter Dragon I honestly thought this was already the case.

HANSÉ TV I don’t think Luna can die from starvation.. alicorns are basically immortal and I think they only ever eat for pleasure. I was just trying to solve the question with logic but logic means that Cozy Glow should eventually starve

@Kaylee Lomas whut ? she would die cuz starving ? idk ... why Luna didn't die when Celestia banished her to the moon for a <b>thousand years</b>

@Kaylee Lomas whut ? she would die cuz starving ? idk ... why Luna didn't die when Celestia banished her to the moon for a *thousand years*

i think she's probably not aging cuz remember Nightmare Moon ? before Luna turn into Nightmare Moon she's the same size as we know right now .. and Celestia banished her to the moon for thousand years ! then when she's reformed she's probably the same size as before she turned into Nightmare Moon .. remember ? if Celestia didn't banished her to the moon , i'm 100% sure she's probably the same size as Celestia .. just look at Twily at the last episode that we saw the time jump right ? it's just 20 years later but Twily 100% same size as Celestia ... meehhhh i think no one would care about my comment😴..

I don’t think she would. If that was okay then why would chrysalis test shape-shift into something huge and break the stone. The stone is pressuring their bodies making it impossible to move, grow, and shape-shift. But idk I guess by that logic cozy glow would also die from starvation-

@The Commenter Dragon dont forget Darla Dimple.

@The Commenter Dragon well if it's anything like Dr. Stone then yes, but we are also taking about a spell, maybe she will be released as a filly but as couple of days pass she'll start looking like a mare

That’s a really good point. Honestly it’s MLP, who knows!

@Yukino Arts What is that supposed to mean?

@The Commenter Dragon that's kinda creepy

@The Commenter Dragon that's kinda creepy

I don’t know, she’s trapped in literal stone she can’t really age and grow. But this is mlp after all anything is possible!

Well i think the spell would prevent her from aging, so chances are she'd be a grown mare trapped in filly's body...kinda like Baby Doll from Batman.


One thing I've been thinking about in regards to Equestrias timeline.  Some things just don't add up. We know from Hearts Warming eve that Starswirl was around before Equestria was found. And was sent to limbo before Discord ruled in chaos. (With Starswirl and the pillars gone, it would seem to be Discords chance to take over Equestria) Since Celestia and Luna used to study with Starswirl as their teacher, and Starswirl commenting on "how tall they've gotten" after him and the pillars return from Limbo in season 7. This indicates that Tia and Luna weren't that tall back then. But they were when they stopped Discord. But ofc we could just say it took years for Discord to fully take over Equestria and some extra years for Tia and Luna to find the elements, which were planted by the pillars. Maybe u can do a vid explaining this timeline further? With the new informations now that the show's ended :)

But wait I don’t see the problem
-The three tribes are fighting
-Starswirl is born
-The tribes make peace
-Celestia and Luna are born
-Starswirl teaches young Luna and Celestia
-Starswirl and the pillars plant the tree, then banish themselves into limbo
-The tree and the princesses takes time to grow
-The princesses discover the tree
-Discord takes over Equestria
-The princesses defeat Discord

And that’s that

The princesse are big cause all rulers size depends on their rank so when celestia became ruler she grew full size Luna is coruler so she is a tiny bit smaller.

if we assume the mane 6 were in their 20s then it could make sense that the final episode was only around 30 years later because that would make them all in their 50s which in shown by their aged skin and grey hair and in that time twilight grew tall (like celestia). so maybe luna and celestia grew up between starswirl leaving and discord arriving which is overall an insignificant amount of time in the grand scheme of things


"People get turned into stone a lot in Equestria."<br>There's no people in Equestria ;-;

"People get turned into stone a lot in Equestria."
There's no people in Equestria ;-;

My definition of people (in a fantasy setting):  sapient beings in a society

Discord Said I Don't Turn Ponies into Stone

Who knows, since Sunset Shimmer wants to crate an zombie army to attack equestria I assume human can also went though the portal, plus the portal in human world isn't a hidden place, someone could just accidently fall though the portal when they leaning on the statue. And I did see Rick and Morty in Pony form (couldn't really remember which episode, probably the one rainbow dash went to canterlot with a bunch of grannies), So I figure maybe Rick and Morty are not the only two human fall though the portal? Maybe there are ponies that were once human and then choose to stay there.

Maybe there might be humans in equestria that snuck through the portal

I think he said people so he would not have to say Changelings, Alicorns (I don’t know how to spell ok ;-;) Pegasi and bla bla bla bla all of these other creatures

He said "people" since he is one of the ponies.<br>You don't go around and say "Humans" to a group of people.

He said "people" since he is one of the ponies.
You don't go around and say "Humans" to a group of people.

Dictionary definition: the members of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group.<br>Yes, that means ponies are people.

Dictionary definition: the members of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group.
Yes, that means ponies are people.

"People" is a catch all term for sapient beings in most fiction. There are no "humans", but there are sapient beings.

@Roxanne Wolf how about <b>creatures</b> ?

Well in one episode Twilight said "So you also sneak up on people"

( it was the episode with the copycat princess cadence and her wedding.)

Yeah, obviously because they all got turned to stone. It's all a conspiracy!

@Roxanne Wolf It's easier to say "creatures"

Monsters in Undertale are called people.

He should've said: "Ahem, <b>ponies, changelings</b> and all that"

He should've said: "Ahem, *ponies, changelings* and all that"


Hey! Chrysalis can hypnotize, right? Maybe a lot of unreformed changelings channeling their magic together can do the same thing. It seems just to be a more advanced spell, by the looks of it. In a past theory, you pointed out that Chrysalis could want to hatch a new colony. Maybe the unreformed changelings are waiting for that (If they’re found) It’s likely that the new Colony (when they’re fully grown) can do things like hypnotize (I hope I spelled it right) Celestia, Luna, and/or Discord.


You know how what caused discord to be released was “the lack of harmony” between the cmc? That’s exactly what he stands for. The lack of harmony between ponies. So if that’s what freed him, maybe something that chrysalis stands strongly for could aid in releasing her. Like maybe hatred or someone breaking someone else’s heart or something? Maybe even the presence of loyal unreformed changelings could possibly help. What do you guys think?

Beni Kujaku you’re absolutely right. After the thousand years, that feud that happened in front of the statue was the switch that released him, thank you 🙏

I think chrysalis would be broken from the statue by LOVE. She feeds off of love, so wouldn't it make sense? Just like Discord, Discord fed off of unharmony.

The lack of harmony and the 1000 years past. I find highly doubtful that no quarrel took place in front of the statue in 1000 years


Just a theory because I’ve had this thought in my head about what if twilight and her friends didn’t defeat the mean 3? I was thinking heavily on it because of what would’ve happened to them and Equestria or the crystal empire. I thought back to your other video on how Shining Armor should’ve been an Alicorn, and maybe then with his aid being the last line of defense, he would’ve proved his worthiness of protection displayed from his cutie mark or something like that, if you get what I meant.

Why do I like this theory so much?!?!?!?!

dang it would be cool to see a male alicorn


HELLO does anyone realize something, when cozy glow harnesses her magic that she GAINED FROM THE BELL it looks exactly like when the royal sisters and cadence gave their magic to twilight. When they gave their magic to twilight it was all alicorn magic so that is clearly a symbol because when twilight harnessed all the magic of the royal sisters and cadence when she was fighting Terek it look exactly like when cozy glow harnesses her magic when she is an alicorn. Therefore there were other alicorns in the past.


I love the theory. Just like what applejack said when they were at the crystal empire, No matter what we do, they will always be no time where everything is perfect"


Discord didn't really break free of his own. The arguing and fighting from the CMS served as the catalyst, however Discord was turned to stone by Celestia and Luna, at the very least 1000 moons ago.
This means that the magic used to turn them to stone in the first place, while cast by two alicorns, over time weakened.
With Discord adding his own chaotic magic to the mix, it MIGHT be possible for it to be stronger, however the spell could fade sooner.
The reasoning is that while Celestia and Luna's spell was on Discord alone. Celestia, Luna and Discord, casts theirs among three separate being, one of which was a being as old and powerful as Discord, if not older and more powerful.
Granted, while Tirek was imprisoned, his power was drained, however he may still hold onto a bit of his power.
Even then, there are possibly countless relics out in Equestria with more than enough power to break the trio free. It's a matter of time before one could be found.
There's also the possiblity that there are other changeling hives as well. Some may have gone through the metamorphosis that King Thorax's hive did, but there's quite possibly other hives that still resemble Queen Crystalis's. Although I'm not sure about how different hives would react to one other. They may be rivals, or friendly to each other and enemy to all others.


what I think is that there are changelings left (we won't be for sure cuz the show ended), but if there are some left, for sure they heard about what happened to crissy, and then they'd go to a search to find the statue and get her out using magic/love whatever to free her. they wouldn't get the other villains out cuz they don't feed off love,, so they'd use love power, getting it from transforming into other ponies and using that magic to free her for her to reign once again.

but of course, just speculation.

@Sawtooth Waves well i have my personnal opinion on the spell.... that spell may not be able to be reversed by anyone exepct by the ones that used it.... why? i'll give a few facts and some points. As we all know the pillars made the tree of harmony and each element represents a pillar according to sunambula, but we know that they where no longer connected when the pillars where send to limbo, one characteristic about the elements of harmony is that they need a bond for them to react, as we see in s1 ep1 twilight was able to use them when she was able to make a bond/ connection, and as princess celestia said she "lost her bond of the elements" and since luna was banished by those same elements she also lost connection. This means that the stone spell on discord has been nearly destoyed because of the loss of that bond, this explaind why discord was free in the first place. the second time he got prisioned was the same as the first, but this time they freed discord instead of discord freeing himself by the bond of the elements being broken. In the movie the petrification was different, unlike discord th petrificarion was weaker since it didn't had the power of the elements of a princess convergence to break it. In the crystalis, tirek and cozy glow petrification is the same as discord BUT ulike discord's the spell doesn't need a bond for it to work, and as we know discord could have put a chaotic magic seal so that no pony unless the princesses and discord himself could break the petrification spell, after the "fake grogar" scenario i belive he would take messures so that those 3 villains wouldn't be brought back unless it's necessary and in a safe enviroment

@Sawtooth Waves EXACTLY!!! never thought of that,, good one! :0

and then if they're small in numbers and need an army, they can always make copies in the mirror pool!


Sawtooth you just blew my mind and now I don't know why! But I feel the urge to try and free Chrysalis all of a sudden I think I have a bit of changeling in me but you have a point the changelings that are still out there could have been learning new magic and might actually free their queen from her stone prison! You my good sir are an extremely awesome and smart pony and for that you deserve a reward! I'll see if I can make one for you might not look totally perfect or Amazing but I'll do my best!

There is an unreformed changeling left.... one on this very platform

There might be a equestrian war that will happen soon similar to the battle those three have done with all the ponies of Equestria but bringing back EVERY last villian that were defeated but bringing them back more powerful and full of anger! But hopefully not also Brohoof!


I LOVE this Theory and I LOVE Chrysalis, too.

@Father and Son Games moldy cheese horse to be specific-


Something to think about whenever it comes to different unreformed changelings would be possibly more hives because it states that they work like bees and so it would be logical that there are other hives out there and wouldn't it also be logical to try to help a fellow Queen whenever she's in trouble if the other Hive hears about it?


The real questions is do they have enough magic power to rival that of luna, celestia and discor and we all know how insanely powerful discor is


One thing i realized you never brought up was outside help
Who says that changlings had to free her couldn’t a pony or other creature
Kind of like tirek helped  cozy glow steal magic

True discord could get hypnotized same with one of the princesses or a dark force like nightmare moon might come back


I've always assumed this to be the case.

And that there are also "old" changelings that simply became neutral (no longer loyal to Chrysalis, but not swarming to Thorax either). Whether they become "whole" on their own or not is a different story (a few might even prefer to look like their old forms even after).


This reminds me of how I was rewatching the season 6 finale a lot and I noticed that we only ever saw the changelings who were in the changeling hive at the time get reformed. If you think about it, there were still about 12 (if im counting right) changelings outside the hive during the finale - the ones who had been sent to pose as Celestia, Luna, Shining Armor, Cadance, Flurry Heart, the Mane 6, and Spike. We know they didn't return before Team Reformed Villains left for the hive to rescue the real ponies, because that would've blown their cover. It's possible that Chrysalis had perhaps summoned them back during the siege, but we never see any evidence for that, so all we can really assume is that they never returned. Obviously they must've found out what had happened at the hive; maybe they went to the hive and saw the reformed changelings, or maybe they have some sort of connection to the hive and/or Chrysalis like Voldemort and his Death Eaters and felt that something had changed, so they fled. Since they had fled separately from Chrysalis, it makes sense that they wouldn't have reunited before season 8, otherwise Chrysalis would've used THEM instead of having to make those clones via that spell. So according to this those rogue changelings are still out in Equestria and unknown to the greater world, which ideally places them to rescue Chrysalis. And as for them having the magical power for it, according to your theory here all they'd have to do is shapeshift into Celestia, Luna, and Discord and they'd be able to pull it off no problem. But yeah, this is definitely a very cool theory and I'd like to see them come back


Being turned to stone in equestria is horrifying you can still hear and see what's going on around you

Yea and you are Imortall so is eveb worse.I would like if there is croosove with G4 and G5 so we can see them react.


@LBBHqueen 2 maybe in the upcoming series<br>where the petifying spell after so much time wears off

@LBBHqueen 2 maybe in the upcoming series
where the petifying spell after so much time wears off

what if G5 has fluffle puff in it with chrissy too


Imagine in the Mlp Movie that this is the plot of the story! They still need to be completely removed from the plane of existence or reformed!

Unfortunately Hasbro made it look like they made the movie just to prove this plot wrong lol


This is very possible. In many movies, tv shows, etc there are always those who don't change and stay in the past. They could be put away or be in hiding. There always are. <br>I would love to see a episode where they show their side of the story the "villains" side. I would also like to see more nightmare moon or (not cannon in show, only comics) nightmares. They are like nightmare moon but transform a pony into their darker side.

This is very possible. In many movies, tv shows, etc there are always those who don't change and stay in the past. They could be put away or be in hiding. There always are.
I would love to see a episode where they show their side of the story the "villains" side. I would also like to see more nightmare moon or (not cannon in show, only comics) nightmares. They are like nightmare moon but transform a pony into their darker side.

not just in media but this happens in real life.


Great video and conspiracy! I love that you mentioned the amulet of Aurora, talasmen of aroge, and the bell.


personaly I think reformed changelings can still use changeling magic even if they lack a horn, as the type of magic seems more tied to general species than minor physical features, pegasi and earthponies have thier own magic too, and sides you could just turn into a unicorn and use magic that way to a limited extent


Wow, this is all so facinating. This theory is really interesting, the idea that our beloved-I MEAN HATED queen could come back if some changling could gather enough magical power to undo the spell. Dont mind me taking notes over here, this is all for theoretical purposes, I swear! <b>nervous laughter</b>

Wow, this is all so facinating. This theory is really interesting, the idea that our beloved-I MEAN HATED queen could come back if some changling could gather enough magical power to undo the spell. Dont mind me taking notes over here, this is all for theoretical purposes, I swear! *nervous laughter*


Chrissy is my favourite villain by far, I hope she comes back for g5 even though I probably won’t watch it. Nothing can top g4. Her character was amazing in FiM, I don’t think they can top that. Her interactions with starlight were some of my favourite scenes in the later seasons and a canterlot wedding is one of my favourite episodes along with the pilot, cutie re-mark and many more!

in my opinion i like nightmare moon and the pony of shadows, because just like stigion both of their works where unoticed and when they wanted something the others cast them aside, they listened to the darkness and became villains that swore to destroy those they hate, and both nightmare moon or the pony of shadows never said that they would destroy equestria, only cover it in darkness


I love the idea of this theory and sometimes I wish the creators would listen to there fan base and talented people like you and make it happen, or at least explain why it can't/won't.


Is NO ONE going to question what happened at the end?!?!?!?

Hey I’m from the future. It was a leeway into a collab episode that you can find if you look at the collab playlist

yeah you're the only one, but now that you say it......

BioniclesaurKing4t2 true green magic is shown to be evil magic.remember the green mist from the siren’s necklaces?

I knew the door got opened what the hell happened?!? Why is he stone?!? This is one cliffhanger

@BioniclesaurKing4t2 WHAT ABOUT SWEETY BELLE

You sure he didn't just see a cockatrice?

@Karl Hnedkovsky true. Still, I feel like pinkie would be there and breaking the 4th wall

@Eleanor Bateman That was green magic, it was a changeling in all likelihood…

@Eleanor Bateman The show may be over, but the world lives on!

@Eleanor Bateman by the light of the beam i belive that was an unreformed changeling that learned the stone spell.... or rarity with that dark magic again and decided to put a pony into stone as a statue for a decoration XD

Well that just be Pinkie trying to shut him up. "Shut up Dude! The show is over!!!"


Love your theories!! Do you think Chrysalis can communicate telepathically from inside her stone prison? Can't wait for more, sir Sawtooth Waves x3


Realizes that he is also a changeling.

Me: ....

*Realizes that he is also a changeling.*

Me: ....

His old intro had that

And he revealed it in 2015

Just telling you now, I've been watching this guy since 2017 and he's a reformed Changeling, therefore wouldn't help with this.


I think this theory works perfectly as an explanation for the catalyst needed to free the Mean 3 from their stone prison and set off the events I mentioned earlier (where the Young 6 have their debut battle/s).


I think that maybe some "reformed" changelings just disguised and used magic to "blend in" with the rest of the changelings. They may still live in the hive or maybe they moved across Equestria to properly feed off love without being deemed "suspicious" by the other changelings


Honestly i'd be pretty excited if christilas came back. I'd love to see her reformed if she gives in! She is personally my favorite queen in equestria.


I always wondered how the changelings would reproduce without their queen. I mean, she was the one responsible for all the brood. In my nextgen universe, they bring back Chrysalis and reform her, and even though she isn't queen anymore (it would be unfair to kick out Thorax, even though I don't feel like he was super qualified to automatically become King), she's still responsible for all the brood.

With bees and wasps, the queen will keep around a princess , fed on royal jelly, on instinct. That's why the changelings are so overprotective of the changeling member of the student six. She is destined to be the next queen. But yeah, there could be workers still loyal to chrysalis. The monkey kingdom probably has a few royal alchemists who can create depetrify orbs. The storm kings son might depetrify all three just to acquire Cozy Glow and her knowledge of how to weaponize friendship.

Actually, it’s a common misconception among fans that Chrysalis is the mother of the changelings. It’s easy to think changeling queens are the brood, but since Ocellus of the Student 6 was shown having regular parents, it’s interestingly not the case in the show’s canon, so the changelings can reproduce without her.


I've noticed that there are less reformed changelings than evil. If you watch the episodes there is a big difference between how many evil changelings are on the hive or canterlot wedding than on the last episodes where reformed appear. (and I dont think 'animators are lazy' is an excuse)


I have had this idea that the changelings that are still loyal under go there own transformation. One looks more like a dragonfly and can out fly the wonderbolts. Another could become simular to a catastrophic quake and be the mussel of the group,but not dumb. And the others fallow suit filling a roll for the group.


Here one thing that concerns me : How can the unreformed changlings use their magic if they don’t have ponies to feed their love from wouldn’t the magic be weakened if they don’t have any love and if they are in hiding gaining love can’t be easy


In my mind I just imagine a new villain appear out of nowhere to free them. Or a nice pony free them by testing new Magic by accident.


(I found this theory in the comments and I added something to it) (Thanks LC 360!)What if the 3 villians escaped and then Flurry Heart saved Equestria  It makes sense because Flurry Heart became the Princess of Light because when the 3 villians brought darkness in the world then Flurry Heart probably used The Crystal Heart but she didnt use the love side she used the light side!!Also I think a new Mane 7 will help...

.....Maybe-
(Please comment below what you think!)
Twilight Sparkle - Flurry Heart
Starlight Glimmer - Luster Dawn
Rarity - Sweetie Belle
Rainbow Dash- Scootalo
Fluttershy - ??????????
Pinkie Pie - Diamond Tiara?
Applejack - Applebloom
Thanks for reading!☺☺😊

@KG - 05NC 813005 Dorset Drive PS I thought about that too maybe I should switch the Starlight and Twilight? maybe make Twilights Luster and Starlights Flurry

@TranscendentLion oh right when twilight is grown up and her mane looks like a flag,got it

@Hyenas are Nice Luster Dawn was Twilight's pupil in the very last episode.

@Ahaana Singh idk ... maybe .... and we will see the new characters !!!!

@Ahaana Singh Yes it could very much be possible.

Do you guys know what the changeling is based on? I did research and found out that the changeling is based on a creature called a sinisteed...be scared

Its NG....I thought about it and I think in the future Luster Dawn and Flurry Heart will be friends and they will work together and reform the 3 villians and maybe become princesses ruling together- Luster dawn in Canterlot and Flurry Heart in the Crystal empire...🤔🤔

It could be either Luster Dawn or Flurry Heart or could it be both?

Oh wait would that mean flurry heart turns Queen Chrysalis into a reformed changeling? (Yes it would)

YES thank you that makes sense and should happen


personally i have a small head-canon that, in preparation for the attack on canterlot, chrysalis laid a clutch twice, or even three times the size of normal in time for them to grow up to assist in the attack. needless to say, she didn't expect to lose. after the attack she was left with a smaller hunting ground due to the newly paranoid equestria and a huge amount of new solders she simply couldn't care for. so, with the exception of a few particularly loyal and vicious solders, she kicked most of the new changelings out of the hive. leaving them to fend for themselves. dubbed 'the canterlot generation' these changelings have built up a stable, albeit hidden, population are equestria, with there own culture and society. the metamorphosized changelings don't really know what happened to them, and the two groups don't tend to get along when they do interact


I like to imagine that there are other changeling hives around equestria (or on the outskirts) and maybe the unreformed changelings would go to another hive to ask for assistance or inform them about what happened to <i>their</i> hive. Although there's no evidence that I know of, of other hives.

I like to imagine that there are other changeling hives around equestria (or on the outskirts) and maybe the unreformed changelings would go to another hive to ask for assistance or inform them about what happened to _their_ hive. Although there's no evidence that I know of, of other hives.


4:10 yes I was just about ask. How do they factor the freeing a potentially potent possibly hostile pair part of their plan?


I hope the new Gen introduces these villains to the new characters, and since no magic was there for Tirek to steal, he’ll still be weak. Once the tribes reunite though, I think Cozy Glow, Tirek, and Queen Crystalis would take time to steal magic from the ponies. Would the tribes turn to Canterlogic to help defeat the villains or would Sunny, Hitch, Izzy, Zipp, and Pip find a different version of the Elements of Harmony to defeat them?


This is amazing! Please do a solo video on cozy glow 😍


I love this theory makes a lot of sense. Plus even if Thorax did reform all the changlings in his colony that doesn't mean that a another colony doesn't exist that might want to free chrysalis. After all there are some species of bugs that can have multiple Queens and even if changlings aren't one of those species who's to say that some Colony might not have a queen or King or any suitable replacements, might decide to free Crystalis. After all even if her changelings did rebelled/ reformed she seemed to be pretty successful as a queen if you're judging based on the size of her colony.


With changelings able to ... change shape, it makes me wonder if you can really petrify a changeling.  It would certainly be within her nature to fake things being safe after she was turned to stone, and one day, when things quieted down and she wasn't horribly under guard, she would change back to her real form and wander off.


I actually completely missed the thing about Mirage so I guess it is possible that a changeling could be that powerful and they could set Chrysalis free.  I still think all three of them got out of that stone prison well before the events of "The Last Problem" and this could be one of many ways it could happen.


I don't know why but whenever I see an image of Chrysalis or heard her name my brain start's singing God save the Queen


Oh one more question THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! When cozy glow nearly got rid of all the magic in equestria would it have been possible if it could hav released grogar from his cosmic prison. I’m curious to know


CRAZY THEORY: What if they did, and the 3 villains somehow escaped, and this time managed to defeat everyone except they didnt know about how powerful the grown flurry heart was, and she defeated them with the crystal heart/in the crystal empire??? As we saw her window pane in the canterlot castle, so what if this was it? This leaves a lot of questions unanswered tho.

That is such a good theory!!! It makes sense Flurry became the Princess of Light because when the 3 villians brought darkness in the world then Flurry Heart probably used The Crystal Heart but she didnt use the love side she used the light side!!

That's really interesting I kinda wanna see that happen lol


I think there might be two different types of hidden unreformed changelings.  Changelings who still hide for they fear the queen and the death they'd face if she were to find them.  And those who still support and wish for Chrysalis to be their ruler.


One question What would grogar (The real grogar) what would his reaction be if he were to come back to equestria and find out that crysalis, tirek, and cozy glow who are now turned to stone, that they betrayed the fake grogar/Discord. Unknowingly that it was discord. Would he free them and unit with them, or free them and give them a frightful punishment. I have been holding on this question since the end of the mlp series g4. (I really hope this gets answered or get a guess


I still believe there are unreformed changelings. I mean, there would always be those who are loyal to their old leader. Although Chrysalis was a villain, she did show that she cared enough for her hive. (I feel Chrysalis in season 6 battle was rather meh. It kinda changed her character to how she was in season 2 IMO and from what I remember.)


I agree with this theory, and it’s a great theory! Good job.


Then Chrysalis would free her other BFFS. Cute.


I think maybe especially with the known fact that grogar existed and was actually set free.. he could have aided more power to the changelings, side note- if the changelings 'evil' selves have this much power, I wonder what sort of other powers the reformed have, like the evil versions of the main 6 were weaker than the good ones..


Seeing the statue again while catching up on videos I skipped over back in the day reminded me of a thought I think I'd like to hear your thoughts on, Sawtooth.

It concerns the disappearance of magic that lead to the world we see in G5. Now, let's hypothesize the petrification wasn't reversed by that point. That leads two possibilities:
- The magic keeping the captives' life force bound to the statue fades, rendering it just ordinary stone
- The magic keeping the captives petrified fades.

I find the latter far more interesting, not for what it might mean for Chrysalis - she was always massively dependent on her magic, as was Tirek - no, for _Cozy Glow_.

Imagine that filly, thrust into a world freshly devoid of magic, _just as she had intended to accomplish to begin with_. Not only that, there would likely be turmoil as a result of these events - something we know she is more than adept at taking advantage of through sweettalk, manipulation - and deception.

Deception like... convincing some loyal recruited followers to help her publicly fake being the only pegasus who retained her ability to fly?
That's right, I believe there's a possibility that Cozy Glow is the origin of the Zephyr Heights royal family we see much later in A New Generation, posing as the only pegasus "pure and innocent" enough thanks to her youth and inherent goodness to be graced by fate with being allowed to retain her flight - and thus, obviously destined to rule, right?

The few dissenters to that could be easily dealt with later to ensure stability, after all - probably just provocateurs sent by those other pony tribes...

But what do you think of this possibility?

Seeing the statue again while catching up on videos I skipped over back in the day reminded me of a thought I think I'd like to hear _your_ thoughts on, Sawtooth.

It concerns the disappearance of magic that lead to the world we see in G5. Now, let's hypothesize the petrification wasn't reversed by that point. That leads two possibilities:
- The magic keeping the captives' life force bound to the statue fades, rendering it just ordinary stone
- _The magic keeping the captives petrified fades._

I find the latter far more interesting, not for what it might mean for Chrysalis - she was always massively dependent on her magic, as was Tirek - no, for _Cozy Glow_.

Imagine that filly, thrust into a world freshly devoid of magic, _just as she had intended to accomplish to begin with_. Not only that, there would likely be turmoil as a result of these events - something we know she is more than adept at taking advantage of through sweettalk, manipulation - and deception.

Deception like... convincing some loyal recruited followers to help her publicly fake being the only pegasus who retained her ability to fly?
That's right, I believe there's a possibility that _Cozy Glow_ is the origin of the Zephyr Heights royal family we see much later in A New Generation, posing as the _only_ pegasus "pure and innocent" enough thanks to her youth and inherent goodness to be graced by fate with being allowed to retain her flight - and thus, obviously destined to rule, right?

The few dissenters to that could be easily dealt with later to ensure stability, after all - probably just provocateurs sent by those _other_ pony tribes...

But what do you think of this possibility?


I've had a question for a while now.

Do you Think, that the reformed(good) Changelings could reform back to "evil"?


It's very unlikely that a changeling was gone under the radar. Especially more than 1 since the Crystal Empire could was able to find at least 1 since the defeat of the queen.<br>I just find it impossible for a changeling to not be discovered since their main food source is love and they can't go on without it a long time and not be reported of sighting.

It's very unlikely that a changeling was gone under the radar. Especially more than 1 since the Crystal Empire could was able to find at least 1 since the defeat of the queen.
I just find it impossible for a changeling to not be discovered since their main food source is love and they can't go on without it a long time and not be reported of sighting.


Your first theory about unchanged changelings is true but bringing back chrysalis is a difficult thing to do because they need the artifact to do it without it their mimicking magic is not strong enough and it was cased by the three most powerful creachers in eqestria so if they do manage to get their artifact they still won't be strong enough


When mentioning Chrysalis' magic not changing color while in disguise, I thought maybe she didn't care because of her villain ego.  Now, I wonder if there was another queen and different changelings before Chrysalis came along.<br>I believe that changelings who are destined with great magic could free Chrysalis like how the Cutie Mark Crusaders triggered Discord's release.  Then fate will cause them to find a more harmonious ending for Chrysalis, or uncover more of her past crimes.

When mentioning Chrysalis' magic not changing color while in disguise, I thought maybe she didn't care because of her villain ego.  Now, I wonder if there was another queen and different changelings before Chrysalis came along.
I believe that changelings who are destined with great magic could free Chrysalis like how the Cutie Mark Crusaders triggered Discord's release.  Then fate will cause them to find a more harmonious ending for Chrysalis, or uncover more of her past crimes.


I'm with you my changeling brothers and sisters!


I don't think that the unreformed changelings could even break the stone spell. Not only did the 2 sisters use Alicorn magic but discord also helped and that is pure Chaos Magic. I don't think anything except Grogar's bell can beat Chaos magic? It would be really hard to break that specific stone spell even with an ancient relic.


I’m guessing by the outro, a Changeling somewhere learned the stone spell.... which means Chrysalis can definitely be revived.


If she escaped she would’ve learned her lesson along with tirek
Maybe not Cozy
I don’t think cozy is ready yet from what she did


Glory to the true changeling race, Long Live Our Queen!


I thought the show ended in season 9? Still, your theories are really good and I wish there could be more seasons...


I think they can just try to get Chrysalis off the platform stone thing.


I think it's interesting to note that Discord was turned to stone by the elements but the three villains were turned by two alicorns and a draconeequs.
I don't know if that could mean anything at all, especially considering the point of other ways of turning people to stone, but I could imagine the three of them combined can possibly create a much more powerful, spell, one that will last longer than a thousand years, perhaps?
Though I don't know if they can even match the power of the elements, so it might actually be an even weaker spell.


I don’t think that would happen. I think that the renegade changelings ended with Pharynx, I’m pretty sure that’s what the writers wanted anyways. Plus, everyone knows about changelings now, so I think they would have found them long ago, even if they were hiding. I also think that regular changelings can only do simple things with their magic, like levitating or opening doors. Chrysalis is an exception because she had loads of magic to begin with.


Great theory, I think it would be really possible, even if the changelings could capture discord, Celestia and luna to be more powerful and free chrisalis


I mean, with Thorax saying “That I know of” it is possible that old changelings still roam Equestria. I believe that they can reverse the effects that were put onto their queen, but it would take a lot of them in order to reverse said powerful spell. Again, with Thorax’s statement, there wouldn’t be too many of them left in order to reverse the spell. UNLESS Queen chrysalis sent changelings out to other parts of Equestria and possibly beyond to gather more love for their hive. In that case it is entirely possible to have more than a few changelings left. One thing I’m interested in though is if changelings can turn into other changelings. Like if a changeling turned into queen chrysalis that would cause enough disruption to Equestria in order to have the others free their queen while a few changelings distract the rulers. I mean in the episode “to where and back again part 2” Starlight even asked Thorax if he was another changeling pretending to be Thorax.


I mean for all we know, the villains could have been reformed in the huge gap between when Twilight had her coronation and the end of the last episode. It could be done, I mean they managed to mostly reform a literal god of chaos so a maniacal foal, a love sucking shape shifter and a magic eater should be a bit easier if they manage to avoid most mistakes made with Discord. Plus, Cozy is a foal. She can't have been much older than the CMC when she was turned to stone, so assuming she remains that age mentally if/when she is freed, with enough work she could be turned around for the better


They can also gather love and feed it to the queen. Giving her enough power to break free herself. She has defeated Celestia in a duel before so its nit that farfetch'd.


It wouldn't even have to be unreformed changelings, it could be a group of reformed changelings looking to reform their former queen.


sawtooth waves: "an elise squad of changelings"<br>my brain: BLYAT

sawtooth waves: "an elise squad of changelings"
my brain: BLYAT


Unrelated topic, but I've always been kinda curious about the changeling in dark blue armour. It was in the comics too, spends a lot of time making obvious suggestions and getting roasted by Chrysalis for it if my memory serves me right.


This is a very interesting theory and I much like you absolutely LOVE chrysalis and I want to see her return


What make raises a question for me is this; if the three are so dangerous that things would go horribly wrong if they got loose, what's stopping some random outsider from taking matters in hand and making dust of the statue, similar to the Storm King, (if that was who I saw being shattered partway through)?


Now we have other question: Can be Chrysalis a seed of chaos, which Discord planted in Equestria?


What if I told you, there are definitely unreformed changelings out there. I was just rewatching S8 E18 I think it was, and realized that there are 2 unicorns that are constantly trying to become the biggest thing in all of Equestria and somehow manage to be loved by every pony even though they were sold out to be lying thieves the last time. Yes. Film and Flam are unreformed changelings. After Film and Flam’s failure at Sweet Apple Acres, they tried to learn about friendship. But having heard of this competition and the results, 2 changelings saw the stars align. 2 unicorns were just put out of their element that happened to have magic that looks EXACTLY like changeling magic. The ponies’ pity was love enough for them. But F&F decided to take it further. They blackmailed everypony into giving them their love through threats and spells (like chrysalis), and kept on putting on ploys to get the most love or be in the most love filled environment. They definitely didn’t reform because at the end of S6 E26, we saw that Thorax’s magic was practically white, and their schemes still continued.

Just think about it


It seems to me that any rogue changelings might just form a new hive.  I don't know how long the time span is between the Season 6 Finale and the Season 9 Premiere, but it caused Chrysalis to go a bit insane not having anyone to rule anymore in the one instance we saw between and by the time of Season 9, she basically has a pet branch.  Are the other rogues even looking for her, or could they have given up searching to form their own hive and a new Queen come to rise?  They're loyal to the cause of the unreformed Changelings, but not necessarily to Chrysalis, and part of that would be out of necessity for the species to survive.


I know this is a small thought but, what about the changlings that weren’t in the hive when Starlight reformed most of them. Do you think they went back and reformed, or went into hiding.


One question, did you change into a colorful changeling?


The thing is that growing must be another way of expressing magic while ponies become alicorns with it the other creatures just don’t happen to just improve their skills and creatures like tirek who live on magic grow tall with them he didn’t become a alicorn but he grew larger and more powerful than the ponies


This could totally be canon! I think in the last episode of mlp (the one that took place in the future of equestria), there were other glass panels depicted of cuter battles that happens off screen, and I think one of them referenced the return of cozy glow and company <br>(Plus, I think Saw Tooth got too close to the truth and had to be taken care of.....how can we be sure he isn’t replaced by a loyalist in the next episode???)

This could totally be canon! I think in the last episode of mlp (the one that took place in the future of equestria), there were other glass panels depicted of cuter battles that happens off screen, and I think one of them referenced the return of cozy glow and company
(Plus, I think Saw Tooth got too close to the truth and had to be taken care of.....how can we be sure he isn’t replaced by a loyalist in the next episode???)


The first time discord was released still seemed to be from some kind of magic, disharmony between the cutie mark crusaders ,notice in the episode the glow came from near his heart, discord wasn't released from nothing


One possibility for unreformed Changelings that you overlooked is that there could be other hives either in remote parts of Equestria or beyond its borders--though I don't know that they would much care about Queen Chrysalis.


I think they will return. I always hoped Chrystalis would return, reform and roule next to Thorax. Also I always hoped Cozy would get reformed.


in the last episode there was a newspaper that showed that Tirek, Cozy and Chryssy are out of the stone and on their way to being reformed. Tirek was in  a strength competition and Chryssy was in negotiations with Steve and Starlight for peace between the two. Can't remember what Cozy was doing though.


Greetings sawtooth waves, I was wondering if I could use some of your theories to create an entire audio drama that takes place after the ending of season 9. The audio drama will revolve around the villains being freed, causing chaos and showing the future. I was hoping for your permission to use these theories to accomplish this. I will credit you within the description, intro and credits section. Please respond as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

-The English Rose.


If Chrysalis comes back then both the others will also!

The Phoenix 3000 <br>The real grogar is probably dead lit but i dunno

The Phoenix 3000
The real grogar is probably dead lit but i dunno


This is my theory<br>Before Chrysalis was turned into stone, she could lay new eggs, create a new hive, with a library filled with magic books. The unreformed/ newlylaid changeling could become more powerful than Twilight. They'd have enough power to set Chrysalis free without setting the others free. But you make a good point. They'd might have to get pass higher security, but they could transform into a royal guard, get to the statue and free Chrysalis from stone. But if they freed the others, they'd have to freeze the others into stone if the the other villains. But if Thorax could reform the newly laid changelings, they might just be evil in heart, not just in apperence. They could turn on  Thorax, defeat them, manipulate the reformed changelings to become evil, and maybe rule Equestria as the dominant race? Just a theory, I don't know if it's gonna happen.

This is my theory
Before Chrysalis was turned into stone, she could lay new eggs, create a new hive, with a library filled with magic books. The unreformed/ newlylaid changeling could become more powerful than Twilight. They'd have enough power to set Chrysalis free without setting the others free. But you make a good point. They'd might have to get pass higher security, but they could transform into a royal guard, get to the statue and free Chrysalis from stone. But if they freed the others, they'd have to freeze the others into stone if the the other villains. But if Thorax could reform the newly laid changelings, they might just be evil in heart, not just in apperence. They could turn on  Thorax, defeat them, manipulate the reformed changelings to become evil, and maybe rule Equestria as the dominant race? Just a theory, I don't know if it's gonna happen.


If only there was a season 10 this man's theories will make a great season


your videos make my Fridays so much better! Thank you!


What if Thorax himself asked Twilight if they could free Chrysalis? Maybe he found a way to convince her to come to her senses, or in desperation of the hive thinning over the years due to the lack of a brood mother. I think it could be an interesting concept/theory to flesh out.


changelings is a lot more complicated then you think, if comic lore can be counted, changelings can only use magic because of where they were first made, and their origin makes me wonder if there can be other kinds of changelings and queens


Video request: which episodes could the series do without without dire consequences?


I know this is L A T E but, why did cadence and shining armour actually name Baby flurry heart, flurry heart? The day they had her thingy was when cadences spell was wearing off. A lot of snow came in, and think of it, "flurry" flurry meaning snow. Baby flurry heart was somewhat connected to the crystal heart. That's how they got the "heart" part. Shining armour even said "to remember this moment." And that's how I think they got her name.


i love your videos there so fun i cant wait for your next one!😆


I get it if I was an an unreformed changeling loyal to Chrysalis I wouldn’t hang around hive!<br>I think that the changelings don’t need extremely powerful magic if they have enough of unreformed changelings or if they get mirage's talisment

I get it if I was an an unreformed changeling loyal to Chrysalis I wouldn’t hang around hive!
I think that the changelings don’t need extremely powerful magic if they have enough of unreformed changelings or if they get mirage's talisment


I love how the series is ended but he's still. Making theories about the future

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I am totally onboard with this. Though if I'm honest, I'd want the conspiracy of Changelings aimed at reforming Chryssie.

Though I admit this requires some headcanon.


In the episode where discord got out the princess did say the reason discord got out it was not because the spell wore off it was because she is not connected to the elements anymore, but discord needed a little disharmony to actually free him self and the CMC helped with that with fighting.


there's always the slim chance that Chrysalis is only the changeling queen for the Equestria lands<br>what if each land actually has its own variant that has adapted to fit their enviroments that haven't been shown yet and Chrysalis was an anomaly among the changelings as a whole and the reformed changelings are actually what they were meant to look like in the first place

there's always the slim chance that Chrysalis is only the changeling queen for the Equestria lands
what if each land actually has its own variant that has adapted to fit their enviroments that haven't been shown yet and Chrysalis was an anomaly among the changelings as a whole and the reformed changelings are actually what they were meant to look like in the first place


Hear me out, what if they returned as Anapomorphic Statues? I know, it sounds crazy. I saw it in a movie once. These anapomorphic statues are the main antagonists in that movie.


Does anyone but me LOVE the villains? They are so cool! I hope they come back and maybe take over equestria! You know, something unpredictable


I think it would be really cool if she returned and seemed revenge..but instead of turning her into stone, they would turn her into a prisoner in the new changeling hive. It would be interesting to see if she turns into a reinforced changeling. She would rule the hive with thorax. (I think that's his name)


I like that he's still making theory's about what will happen next even though the show ended


I think with discord’s magic combined with Celestia and Luna, which is quite strong, the petrification may have been stronger


This theory makes a lot of sense, but in the last episode of season 9, the royal sisters say that they are moving away, and since they combined their powers into Twilight's crown, would that mean Twilight now has the power to release the stone spell, without the elements? And even if she does, would she need her friends to do it or would it still work without them?


And if you saw it, when they reformed all the Changlings (that we know of) Thorax had magic from his horns like unicorn magic, so they don’t have unicorn looking horns anymore, they’re more like antlers or antennas


Hm it's quite possible that when the Changelings try to free Chrysalis both Tirek and Cozyglow at the same time


If there were a lot of rebel changelings, they could potentially combine their magic to do so aswel..


I just hope there is still renegade changelings.I just think the evil ones are so interesting and I hope they are not gone.


I'm more of the belief the reformed Changelings will release her after some time has passed, and show her how things have gone, that her sacrifices to get the hive to this point weren't in vain, and that they still adore her and need her.<br>She'd obviously run away, still being in denial and needing to process this. It may even come down to Starlight to once again try and convince her. Eventually she would come around.

I'm more of the belief the reformed Changelings will release her after some time has passed, and show her how things have gone, that her sacrifices to get the hive to this point weren't in vain, and that they still adore her and need her.
She'd obviously run away, still being in denial and needing to process this. It may even come down to Starlight to once again try and convince her. Eventually she would come around.


This actually gives a good possibility to my theory about the tie in movie in 2021 (Watch my video for full theory if your interested), the theory says that the three villains get freed by some sort of magical mcguffin (grogars bewitching bell in more powerful) and the staff of secana (?) could be said magical mcguffin that helps free them.


Whatever it is.. I hope it's HUGE! like it would take two whole new movies! And the first new one would end on a GINORMOUS cliff hanger!!!! And then it would get solved it the other one!


Just imagine a new show “the Return of Queen Chrysalis, Cozy Glow and Tereck”


I wonder what these 3 would do after the Spell has been broken?<br>Will they be reformed? Or will they try to take revenge?

I wonder what these 3 would do after the Spell has been broken?
Will they be reformed? Or will they try to take revenge?

I mean it can go either way, they have the potential to be reformed it's been proven in one of the episodes, tho it would probably take some convincing.


You need to make a theory about the king of the hippogriff! also i love you're video!


I have been needing conformation on something. Remember Cadence and Shining Armor's wedding? Before Twilight found the real Cadence, we can see that Queen Chrysalis's magic is green. And in Twilight's memory Cadence's magic is an aquamarine color. I don't know if Lauren Faust has said that ponies can see the color of unicorn/alicorn magic, but if they can then HUGE plot hole. this has bothered me for a while.


I find it hard to believe we're the only changeling hive in existence. Just because we reformed doesn't mean all of us did.


Okay, sure to both of these theories. Just one more question: If they scattered, and I am just guessing that they all transformed to stay safe, how do they know each other. especially reformed or not? Did they happen to escape together, or are they not even aware of each other? I mean, they could know that their possibly could be other unreformed changelings out there, but do they know who they are exactly?


If there were unreformed changlings, why did chrysalis use clones in that episode? Surely if the staff intended for there to be unreformed changlings they would have used that instead of creating a whole new pawn for Chrysalis.


Keep in mind, I have not watched the final season of My Liftle Pony because it hasn't come to Netflix yet. So my theory is probably bad and won't make sense. What I was thinking was that when Chrysalis escaped, she was looking for a possibility of unreformed changelings that escaped. She could possibly have also... uhh... "made more" since she is able to do that. When "Grogar" brought Chrysalis, Cozy Glow, and Terek (however it's spelled) together, the changelings looked for signs of her, and then tou theory goes into play.


So let me get this straight ; You get turned to stone, and your video does nothing but a high five. Wow. Just wow.


As for Mist Mane having wavy hair: she is the pillar of beauty... yeah thats it


Even if they didn't had a artifact as powerful as the talisman, they always could use a cockatrice to reverse the spell.<br> Also I don't see why would they in stone Chrissy whiout freeing the others, from a tactical point, the more allies the better

Even if they didn't had a artifact as powerful as the talisman, they always could use a cockatrice to reverse the spell.
 Also I don't see why would they in stone Chrissy whiout freeing the others, from a tactical point, the more allies the better


I wish so much for the Dazzlings/sirens somehow come back to Equestria through the portal from Canterlot High 😍


The only issue with this theory is that on MULTIPLE occasions did Chrysalis say, "Entire army was stolen" and she "Searched all across Equestria for any still unreformed" which pretty much means she's the only unreformed Changling. But I would love if they freed them one day and they all found the good in themselves, same with Sambra. Twilight says it herself when they reformed the storm king, "Everyone has good inside them"

Cedar Franklin Season 7, the pillars and the mane 6 brought Stygian back and turned him good again.

Did this happen in a comic? Cause last i remember the storm king is no more

The Storm King got reformed? When did that happen?


One question underlying this is how many truly fanatical changelings there are. Undeniably the changelings are better off under Thorax's rule; instead of being forever hungry and having to fight for love they get all they could want peacefully and without danger. Just the promise of ending the hunger was sufficient to convince most of the changelings. So how many changelings are sufficiently devoted to Chrysalis to ignore that and to not be tempted over to the light side (which has cookies)?


One thing I've been thinking about in regards to Equestrias timeline.  Some things just don't add up. We know from Hearts Warming eve that Starswirl was around before Equestria was found. And was sent to limbo before Discord ruled in chaos. (With Starswirl and the pillars gone, it would seem to be Discords chance to take over Equestria) Since Celestia and Luna used to study with Starswirl as their teacher, and Starswirl commenting on "how tall they've gotten" after him and the pillars return from Limbo in season 7. This indicates that Tia and Luna weren't that tall back then. But they were when they stopped Discord. But ofc we could just say it took years for Discord to fully take over Equestria and some extra years for Tia and Luna to find the elements, which were planted by the pillars. Maybe u can do a vid explaining this timeline further? With the new informations now that the show's ended :)
<br>sorry for coppying youre coment :)

One thing I've been thinking about in regards to Equestrias timeline.  Some things just don't add up. We know from Hearts Warming eve that Starswirl was around before Equestria was found. And was sent to limbo before Discord ruled in chaos. (With Starswirl and the pillars gone, it would seem to be Discords chance to take over Equestria) Since Celestia and Luna used to study with Starswirl as their teacher, and Starswirl commenting on "how tall they've gotten" after him and the pillars return from Limbo in season 7. This indicates that Tia and Luna weren't that tall back then. But they were when they stopped Discord. But ofc we could just say it took years for Discord to fully take over Equestria and some extra years for Tia and Luna to find the elements, which were planted by the pillars. Maybe u can do a vid explaining this timeline further? With the new informations now that the show's ended :)
sorry for coppying youre coment :)


They can use grogar's bell to release the villans. Last we saw the bell discord used it to take back his powers and give the princesses their power, which means it still functions.


Changlings can turn into anypony or any creature, they don't need to hide. Just like thorax in that one episode when he tricked the entire crystal empire into thinking he was a pony. The changelings can be anywhere and we wouldn't even know it


The only issue with this is that thorax doesnt say "that I know of", he says "expect one of them" in regards to pharnyx. (Unless they change that with different languages?)

But goodness do I wish, I'm not the biggest fan of how they handled the changelings after the transform.

@Dark Warrior Or just not enough honestly, either could work seeing that thorax pre-transform was full for quite a bit when just being friendly.

Yeah I also remember he didn't say that

And yeah I hate the way they handled it
My theory was always that the reason the challenges were always hungry was because they were receiving the wrong type of love, forced love or love that doesn't belong to them


can you make anything about kirin magic? it seems to work differently, the stripes glow and not the whole horn.

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yes I do think you're right
all of those changelings are different from each other like thorax
they have different personality's to
so some of them are still out there like you said


I have a question, In my little pony a new generation what happened to chrysalis cosy and Treck? did they get freed and reformed or are they still stuck in stone?

My next question is, If alicorns have the ability to be immortal then shouldn't Celestia and Luna still be around in the new generation?


Thanks for telling me all of these things I'm thinking about subscribing soon! 😁


Well it depends there might not be enough changelings and what if the magic doesn't work. And there could be another possibility too. Just like when discord was first freed from stone it was fighting from friends/chaos. So maybe a similar thing could happen with the mean 3 but in a different way though but I'm not sure of what other way that could be though.


1. It's literally stated by Celestia that the reason Discord was able to free himself as because Celestia and Luna weren't tied to elements anymore, the main six were, so no, the stone spell on Discord did not wear off the way you think it did, bc it the main six got the elements in the beginning of season one while Discord escaped in the beginning of season two. Because Discord, Celestia and Luna turned the evil trio into stone without anything but their own magic, so I'd think the only way for it to wear off is for all three of them to die

2. Whos to say they didn't shatter Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow after they turned to stone?? you might say that it would go against Twilights beliefs but when the Storm King shattered she didn't seem to care, and i don't believe the evil trio statue even showed up in the episode after they were turned to stone except in the newspaper

3. Equestria now has a HUGE army, and if there was any unreformed changelings, there probably wouldn't be that many of them, so some army or Twilight herself could probably take them down pretty quickly. And i doubt they even exist at all since Chrysalis, Triek and Cozy Glows attack went on long enough for a chunk of the country to group together and fight, who says any other changelings wouldn't have heard about it and take Chrysalis's side??

3.5. And about Grogar's bell,, I'm not sure if that thing lost all of its power or what but Twilight would probably find a really good place to hide it, and im not sure how powerful Grogar is but from the story Discord told us while being Gorgar, it seems that without that bell he was basically powerless as in the story he was banished right after Gusty took the bell (that is assuming Discord new the story, i believe he did bc a lot of things added up and Discords been alive for awhile and also he's Discord he knows like almost everything) so if your theory about Grogar being trapped in the stars and him coming back soon bc of Cozy Glow, he'd be screwed bc he wouldn't have his bell (at least thats what ive gathered)

guys please dont let this flop i know i sound clingy but like this took 198374 years to type


My dear god- you wonder if theres unchanged Changlings out there when you already got a bunch of buddys in front of ya


Just out of theory, but if their were unreformed changlings they might not even need the artifacts, Chrysalis said that draining cadence love made her more powerful than celestia, ok when the heck does celestia actually do anything, but when you see the fight between nightmare moon and her, they destroyed an entire castle! If chrysalis can gain that much power from draining love, I’m sure the others could as well.

Also another theory but can a reformed changling change back? Or what about the artifact, like the bell could her magic be inside the artifact, if so can other changlings take it?

This are just theories but fun to think about ^~^


Well what I think is that only the creature who cast the stone spell can reverse the spell, but twilight was able to use the princess magic to turn tempest and the princesses into normal, but note that the magic of the magic orb is different, and also Twilight used the staff to free tempest and the princesses, and the staff also contain the storm king magic, and the magic orb's magic might have been from the storm king so I think it's impossible for other creatures to free creatures who were turned to stone, and also from all the episodes we seen changelings has never used any magic except shape-shifting, if they were able to cast spells like ponies and alicorns they would have used those spells to defend themselves from the mole and etc, also the artifact that was able to summon tsunami might be different and the used of it is like the artifacts of the pillars, they can't cast spell but they have magic inside, so I think it's impossible for the villains to be released unless Celestia Luna and Discord freed them


There could well be a separate hive somewhere.  It would answer why they hadn't just reformed already:  The original hive was somewhere where that wasn't an option, perhaps due to a small non-changeling population.  This is ignoring "Fiendship is Magic" of course since that just raises further questions.<br>Incidentally I am inordinately amused by the name "Sawtooth Waves".  Took a bit of engineering back in the day.

There could well be a separate hive somewhere.  It would answer why they hadn't just reformed already:  The original hive was somewhere where that wasn't an option, perhaps due to a small non-changeling population.  This is ignoring "Fiendship is Magic" of course since that just raises further questions.
Incidentally I am inordinately amused by the name "Sawtooth Waves".  Took a bit of engineering back in the day.


Dang it, I missed calculated the spell! Sorry Mr Sawtooth, let me go get the princesses so they can help!


We can all agree this needs to happen in gen 5


I haven't watched you in a while but I just needed to say, I love your new intro! (It's new to me)


haha i dont think he ever thought about how thats only <b>one</b> hive and that there could be way more

haha i dont think he ever thought about how thats only *one* hive and that there could be way more


I realy hope that some unreformed changelings still exists somewhere... :3


Celestia said that since Luna and Celestia don't have a connection to the Elements of Harmony anymore Discord was able to be free, but the three others were banished not using the elements that means they should be secured for a very long time


Interesting, fascinating theory indeed.👍🏻👍🏻


Considering the way hive insects act it is possible for renegades to be scattered. Plus it is possible that there are changelings who never probably want to reform out of choice but that's a big IF.


I mean, honestly, even if these un-reformed Changelings do free Chrysalis, unless they also decide to free Tirek & Cozy Glow as well, would this small army & now-almost-allyless queen even be much of a threat? I mean, Chrysalis would have to absorb alotta love to make even just a good amount of changelings (or am I getting something wrong here?)

I mean, honestly, even _if_ these un-reformed Changelings _do_ free Chrysalis, unless they also decide to free Tirek & Cozy Glow as well, would this small army & now-almost-allyless queen even be much of a threat? I mean, Chrysalis would have to absorb *alotta* love to make even just a good amount of changelings (or am I getting something wrong here?)


You also need to think about,that Queen Christallis is the Mother of all Changelings. Its kinda like the Queen by bees. So even if all Changelings ffom Thorax Hive are reformed,Christallis can just make new bad one. She can just eat one someones Love again and with that make new Changelings


I think if Cozy Glow came back,  she would either be immortal, or she would reform and become a little older.


well i think the changelings might still be here because they could sneak in equestria by changing into a pony and then they would try to collect these ancient artifacts.Once chrysalis is here they would  start battle again


If there are unreformed changeling, why hadn't they find Chrysalis earlier? She was all alone since season 6 ending. I believe this means that there are no unreformed changelings left at all. And also... they might not really like Chrysalis. We know that Thorax changed some changelings later, but they were in the hive like Ferinx. If they were loyal to Chrysalis they wouldn't stay at the hive at all. So if there are some changelings left, they might not want to rescue the Queen


i think changelings are MORE POWERFUL THAN ALICORNS. think about it, they can turn into alicorns  and use magic and fly in their alicorn form. if they turned into discord, which is the most powerful they can probaly use his magic too. and sance pharinx turned into a stone they can probaly turn into the elements of harmony or the magic artefacts.


really wished that in the ep abt the changelings pharynx did not transform physically to match his charadev. it gives this weird idea that the original changelings are bad even though we saw with thorax and his shiny wings that they're perfectly fine either way.


I think we need to know who Cozy Glow's parents were. I think they might be out for revenge very soon.


I propose a theory, what if after Discord first got turned to stone by the two princesses his statue was put under a lot of gaurd supervision. but after who knows how many moons the legend of siscord faded into obscurity as more and more ponies who lived through is reign faded too. leaving only Celestia who thought that after this long surely hes in there for good. what does all this point to? well how long would it take to forget about all three of them to eventually be nothing but myth, a stained glass window and the memories the immortal princesses. How long before some ponies or even changelings trigger something nearby to undo everything much like how the cmc did Discord?


I'm not sure if anyone else pointed it out already. But in the season 6 finale, Chrysalis afirms there were drones replacing each and everyone of the people who were kidnapped by her. This includes Celestia, Luna, Cadence, Shining Armor, Flurry Heart plus the seven that we saw replacing the mane six and Spike on Ponyville. Maybe some of them got away...? That's my strongest hypothesis on unreformed changelings still being out there.


I know my OC is what folks would call a unreformed changeling, but he's more or less content to stay where he is hiding.


The green Orbs were alchemy chemicals made form misfortune malachite  and the stone spell used in the movie made them into complete stone not just imprison them.


I always get excited when u post new videos! U are super smart at coming up with these interesting theories that I'm pretty sure not alot of people think about! Keep this going!!😉❤


I think the reason why the stone spell wore off because only Luna and Celestial did it, but by using discord in the next casting, it’s probably ten times stronger and won’t just wear off


Uhh, what's wrong with Yoshi Darklord? I'm just wondering why you sound so annoyed when saying their nickname.

@Lightning Storm Why are you getting so upset? O_o Jesus.

@MidnightMuffin I said I take it back witch means srry.okay.also It was a mlp joke i got from one of sawtooth wave's vids , okay?

@Lightning Storm What do you mean "who me" Your username was literally in my comment.

@MidnightMuffin who me?also I changed my oc so I take that back

@Sawtooth Waves what joke?my oc is a changling and changelings are dumb...no offence

Please think about other aspects of the show <br>😁

Please think about other aspects of the show
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@Sawtooth Waves Oooooooh. Suddenly it all makes sense. Wonder why i haven't thought about this before.


I don't think there would have to be any more Changelings "most loyal to Chrysalis." How I see it, she could just breed up a new colony after Thorax took over.


I don't know why people thought that Flurryheart would be some kind of ultra-villain JUST because she is a baby alicorn and has lots of power. A comment even said: "I bet Flurry will be the villain of Season 7." That's debunked. And even back in 2016, I thought Flurry was just a really cute baby.


Wooden the magical artefacts be kept in Inverurie Close Chambers and after the attempt of cosy glow I think that would be very hard to get in so my idea is that a strange things might use there used torax to get it because he's the representatives of it because he is the refund reader leader


I wish we knew more about changeling history, because I am an alicorn, born by a royal family, princess Dawn of knowledge, and I want to know more about changeling history.

Tireks brother, good idea! That would be nice to know

well maybe hazbro will starts making book series or even comics about equestria... maybe about the pillars, changelings, tirek's brother etc


Let's not forget that not all changelings were in the hive when those who were there transformed


Maybe there could be a artifact that could break the stone but what could it be?


in theory, it is possible that Chyssie and the others could be freed from their stony prison, either by active effort or just by the fact the spell seems to be a time lock that will eventually fade, as it did before with Discord.  that being said, the probability of their still being unreformed Changlings in the world would be extremely low.  after all, who better to find Changlings, than other Changlings?  Thorax, and by extension his brother and co-ruler Pharanx, would know what to look for, and any tactics Changling hold outs might use to hide.


One non reformed changling is out there (flurry heart replaced by the changling during the end of the crystalline)


Remembered Discord was FIRST released by the CMC fighting.

i think he was freeded then because their was enough hatred and such of that in the world to free him, or some fillys just needed to argue infront of him ;-;

The stone spell was able to be broken by them because celestia and luna arent connected to the elements anymore

@yasmin You bringing that up made me realize if discord was freed from the cmcs causing disharmony...maybe if the changelings still enough love around chryllisus or do changelingy things it could free her?

The most probable is that the spell (like so many more in Equestria) lasts for 1000 years. Only then can it be broken, and the fight of the CMC litterally just woke Discord up, without undoing the spell, which had already expired

I think, whatever they represent, can break them free.

Dark Kronis that’s what I have been saying thank you😎

@yasmin my take is the spell had weakened to the point it was brittle and just needed a nudge to fail

Cameo Shadowness discord is clearly more powerful then the two of them combine so the stone spell could only work for discord if it was casted on him using the elements of harmony connecting the spell with the connection between the royal sisters and the elements so when their connection was severed the spell began wearing of💥🤓😎

@Fantasy-Artist <br>Given how Luna and Celestia know the stone spell without the Elemets I kinda doubt that. Of course you can easily be right but the fact that the stone spell is something that can easily be done without the elements makes me feel like it's very different.

@Fantasy-Artist
Given how Luna and Celestia know the stone spell without the Elemets I kinda doubt that. Of course you can easily be right but the fact that the stone spell is something that can easily be done without the elements makes me feel like it's very different.

Actually when Luna and Celestia lost their connections to the elements of Harmony the stone spell slowly grew weaker and the CMC’s fighting was chaotic enough to help speed things up just a little bit but not just enough

@nminc I figured. Lol. Sawtooth is pretty popular.

Great! We have a LOT of new members since you left.

@nminc oh howdy. Uh... Sure. I'll ask for the link later

@yasmin <br>While that is true, it shows that even unintential things can break stone spells.

@yasmin
While that is true, it shows that even unintential things can break stone spells.

Hey cameo! You should come back to the discord!

Cameo Shadowness I don’t rlly think he was released by the cmcs cuz their fighting wasn’t that bad, and I’m sure they weren’t the only people who fought at that specific place, I think there should be a vid about this


OK, this may sound crazy, but I agree that there are more than likely some unreformed Changelings out there, and yes, they could eventually free Chrysalis, but would they?  If they are like any other hive insects, I think not.  To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if there were already other Changeling Queens out there outside of Equestria.  And to be honest, I don't think they would try entering Equestria after seeing what happened to Chrysalis and her swarm.  Though I would also not be surprised if there were some queens who didn't consider taking on Thorax as an example of a better way to survive.


I don't think that freeing Chryssy from stone would be a good idea, and those unreformed changelings, if they exist, think so too. Let me explain.

Chryssy has a history of failing. She's very arrogant, short sighted, and she's almost always letting emotion cloud her judgement, which ultimately always lead to her downfall.

I'm sure those rogue changelings are sick of failing so much. Why would they let themselves be led by the person that always failed them? It doesn't make any sense. However, what DOES make sense is for them to find their true leader. What this means is that they have to find someone with the intelligence, competence, and remarkable set of skills to lead them into battle and succeed.

I imagine this hypothetical leader as a Thrawn-esque type of a person. Vicious, cunning, yet intelligent and calm in the heat of battle.


Odd question but what do you look like as a reformed changeling?


I suspect that there are other Changling Hives that exist in the pony world but they are likely ruled by different kings and queens with their own means of providing for their hives, we only seen a small fraction of what the world has to offer, no one in Equestia knew of the Stormking until he just showed up one day to take over so other Changlings being out there is highly possible, just as possible that there are other centars like Trek out there. Much as I like the Mane cast in the FIM, I would like a spin off that actually goes beyond Equestia and see what the world beyond is like, are there more beings like Grogar out there, maybe have the series focus on a student or two maybe even three of Twlight's (different from the season 9 finally student) who is given a major challange/test to find and collect objects from races that exist far beyond the borders of Equestia within a certain time frame, say the pony verison of Around the World in 80 days and the items have to be genuine and given to them willingly by the owners.

It can be pretty much a roadtrip adventure but with lessons of life and making friends, I can kind of envision the end of the adventure, Twilight asks the students for the items from their adventures and one says "We don't have them!" Before Twilight can get angry or whatever, another says "We did bring back something!" Then the third student opens the doors to reveal their friends each of whom are of different races and they have the items and then corrects the first one by saying "We don't have the items, but they do!" Twilight smiles and says her students have passed her test, maybe the students were not friends to start with but being given the test has forged a bond between the ponies and they in turn forged bonds with these creatures who helped them overcome many challanges along the way.


I'm not sure but might as well try to free Chrysalis like you said.


I do believe there are other changelings but they are in a different hive with a different queen therefore they already have a queen that isn't Chrysalis so they wouldn't come after her and free her.


This is a very interesting theory, but is it possible that there are unreformed changelings?


Wouldn't it be cool if sawtooth waves was in a new episode of mlp

Oh! Oh! What if they snuck in some ocs or some yt cameos like applegeek, or anY or yeah sawtooth


I don’t think so because in order to do that you would need a big magical object or the magic of the princesses and chaos magic which apparently no one can control except discord so they would need more magic then they have And yes I believe that means more magic than the talisman can provide the power scaling goes out the window when it comes to someone like discord


Yes I think that there still might be some in formed teams wins and I think they mate settings liens well free chrysalis and The Nother two!


does anyone know what the music is called in sawtooth's outro? or was it made by himself? if so that's epic


You know....Sawtooth waves is a changeling and he might just be giving us a warning...