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Terry A2022-02-09 23:19:42 (edited 2022-02-10 15:59:35 )
I know the books aren’t necessarily canon, but Celestia legitimately stages a monster attack to help a group of students learn defense spells in “Princess Celestial and the Summer of Royal Waves,” which is strikingly similar to how you’re describing your new interpretation of Nightmare Moon’s return.
Celestia got angry with Discord for uniting the villains and pretending to be Grogar. If she did release Luna, even if she knew Twilight could reform her, she'd be one hеll of a hypocrite😆
Just remember, back then, Celestia had a more omniscient and omnipresence in MLP, that's all you need to know in order to understand how Luna got out of the moon. When Celestia can talk about "signs" and write a book about it, give Twilight guidance which Twilight misunderstood (part of being omniscient on Celestia's part), that means it's suppose to be a mystery how Celestia knew exactly how things would play out - she was more of a god then, before hashbro nerfed her.
This works with a theory I have. Celestia was creating the bearers of the elements before Twilight. Sunset Shimmer as the bearer of Magic, Cadance as the bearer of Laughter, Shining Armor as the bearer of Loyalty, I don't have any idea who would have been honesty , kindness, or generosity. This would explain why Cadance a Princess was going to public school and babysitting Twilight, Celestia saw the connection between Cadance and Shining Armor. We know Celestia has some ability of prophecy and could be using that gift to find possible bearers. This even plays with how Sunset Shimmer fell, Celestia saw one of her students become a bearer of Magic then later an Alicorn. At the time she made the error of thinking that the student would have been Sunset, leading Sunset to her own downfall. Celestia's School of gifted Unicorns could have been set up just to fine the Bearer of Magic.
Summary: Celestia using prophecy was trying to find bearers of Harmony even before Twilight Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer bearer of magic, Cadance bearer of Laughter, and Shining Armor bearer of Loyalty.
this might be crazy but hear me out discord being the element of honestly would be a possibility in a way yes he is a trouble maker and alot of times but never really lied to the moments that i could say it the only times he really acted something was to encourage his friends and we even saw applejack doing this
@keks krieger44 I know Applejack♀️(🦄🐴)[🍎 + 5 🍎](🚜🍎💪)🧡 is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Honesty🥺. And Discord♂️ is the Spirit🌌 of Chaos. He was a trouble maker. But don't worry. He turned good😇
@keks krieger44 AJ's dad maybe? Or Granny Smith's parents? We know she was involved with the Apples settling in the place that became Ponyville back when Granny Smith was a young filly.
@Elderscrollsswimmer that wouldn't really make sense in the time line as we know bright Mac and pear butter where still both around soe a portion of applejacks life even after she earned her cutie mark and thus becoming the "true" element of honesty
I do love this, but it doesn’t follow the alternate timelines when Starlight stopped the rainboom. If Celestia had the ability to release her then why would she release her when there wasn’t anyone to stop her. It makes more sense that an exterior force released her and Nightmare overpowered Celestia and Twilight’s first victory was just that. a victory
I have this headcanon that Celestia disguised herself as Nightmare Moon. When Celestia wielded the Elements and blasted Nightmare Moon, they had purified her, but Celestia used too much of her magic to bend them to her will and accidentally banished her sister. After 1000 years, the spell wore off and Luna returned, but was in a near-death state, so Celestia, giving Twilight and her friends the push they needed, disguised herself as Nightmare Moon, and what they went through in the Everfree Forest were test to ensure that the 6 were the ones to rightfully bear the Elements of Harmony. But Celestia had to rush the "final showdown" as Luna was nearing death, so she gave Twilight the final push she needed, then either redirected a portion of the rainbow blast onto Luna, or pulled Luna pulled Luna into the blast, both resulted in reviving her. Then after the Mane 6 collapsed , Celestia dropped her disguise, left the castle, put the sun and moon in their right places, and then returned to congratulate her student and welcome her sister back into the fold.
I still agree with your theory Sawtooth, i too still believe that Celestia had everything to do with freeing Nightmare Moon i mean after all Celestia's the one who put her on the moon in the first place so if she put Nightmare Moon there then she could definitely release her too, i mean it's kinda like the part in "The Return Of Harmony Part 1" where Celestia said that the chamber of the elements of harmony was protected by a spell that only she could break and if that was so then that would mean Celestia would literally be the only one who could release nightmare Moon.
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 1)Shut 2)Watch this video https://youtu.be/dEhQM8zCUYQ about did Grogar release Nightmare moon and leave out the part that Sawtooth said that we saw Grogar in flesh and blood(it was proven that Discord was disguise as Grogar) and also it IS possible that when Cozy Glow almost drained all the magic from Equestria, that the Real Grogar escaped.
Honestly I really think that she didn’t have much to do with Nightmare Moon, she did technically want her little sister back, though, she’s usually thinking of many pony’s of the town instead of just her sister
I agree. Of course she wanted Luna back, but I dony believe that she would release NMM for the sake of Twilight defeating her. Twilight was smart enough to piece it together herself. She didn't need Celestia's input
What we know: Celestia wanted to get her sister back. Twilight's Cutie Mark was on the Tree of Harmony, so Celestia knew (or at least could reasonably guess) that Twilight would rediscover the Elements of Harmony. Nightmare Moon came back in at least one of the alternate timelines where the Rainboom didn't happen (although that one could be explained if Twilight got her cutie mark later and Celestia took interest, but due to other effects of the timeline changes, she was unable to rediscover the Elements of Harmony and failed to stop Nightmare Moon). There was a prophesy that said that Nightmare Moon would return in 1000 years after her banishment.
What actually makes the most sense is that Celestia either had to set the deadline at the beginning (when she was casting the spell 1000 years ago) and hope that she lived in a world where things work out or that she didn't release Nightmare Moon herself, that way it makes the prophesy and alternate timeline make the most sense, while still fitting Celestia's character of wanting to save Luna but being unable to do it at the time (I believe that the reason why Celestia banished Nightmare Moon was because the rift between her and Luna basically broke the connection between Celestia and the Elements of Harmony enough that all she could do was banish her, and it took Twilight forging a bond with the other ponies to use the Elements properly). But it could have also been other forces at play that freed Nightmare Moon and Celestia was just working within them to do her best to save her sister (by helping Twilight meet her friends).
My theory is that Celestia was prepping Cadence to defeat Luna, not Twilight. But when Celestia saw the potential in Twilight, she thought to let her try and keep Cadence as backup. (Celestia probably thought that CAdence could magic Love back into Nightmare Moon to stop her.) Which would also explain why Celestia would unseal Luna without Twilight during the Alternate Timeline. (In which Cadence would have failed. Because well, Nightmare Moon is too good for that!)
Perhaps, but we don’t know what causes those visions, if Celestia can control their frequency or detail or if they always occur when something disastrous is about to occur
@Nathan Meersman I think that was a test for twilight since she said "i knew you could do it" means she already knew about it, And that's a 100/99% chance that she freed nightmare moon... Then again nightmare moon's prison was for 1000 years! But magic in equestria is confusing sometimes, nature doesn't work there! Earth ponies can grow food and plants, Pegasi can control weather, unicorns can do all sort of spells/magic.... So Just like that Celestia can CONTROL the stars! It's a 99% chance she's the one who freed Nightmare Moon, To TEST Twilight Sparkle
that isn't how the show's logic works though because "celestia" controls the day only and "luna" controls the night only so hopefully this fixes your research because next time do the research properly because if you don't then because it's better to let the pros who know how to do their research properly do the research because you always should fact check the facts and logic of the tv show when doing research on it and it helps to know what your doing basically. :/
I don't think she knew for sure, but she definitely saw the potential in her. Also, we've never actually seen Celestia have visions of the *future*, only of threats elsewhere in the present.
@Nathan Meersman I mean it’s not completely insane (watch the Folly of Celestia, it gets the noggin joggin). If Celestia knew that Twilight could reform Nightmare Moon, it’s not inconceivable that she’d pursue this plan to EVENTUALLY get her sister back. And we do see, in the show, the Royal Sisters having visions
Well later in the series where Tirek returns we see Celestia has prophetic dreams. In Celestial Advice we see that Celestia had known who the Elements of Harmony where before hand as well, as she stuggle with WHEN to send Twilight to Ponyville. I think how her prophecies have limits related to how far in the future them even is. The future in the future the more vague the propecy is, the closer the more accurate. If Celestia has used her abilities to help her make decisions then her behavior makes sense. She knew Nightmare would return at a Farming Village outside the Everfree, so when the Apples petitioned her for land she knew what land to give them. She took on personal students because she knew a powerful Unicorn representing friendship would save Luna, her disappointment in Sunset was because she initially thought Sunset was the unicorn but her antisocial and power hungry tendencies proved that wrong. I don't think Celestia hand dore t control over anything she was prepared for, as she got details wrong. Like knowing Twilight would save the Crystal Empire, but not that she would do so by letting Spike bring the Crystal Heart to Cadence. She always planned and prepared for things she knew would happen, but as to causing events don't think she ever acted directly, she took steps to be ready and deal with consequences of events she couldn't stop.
I wonder what happened to the rest of the alicorns. Did Princess Cadence and Flurry Heart give up their immortality for Shining Armor not being able to become an alicorn? What became of the Crystal Empire? Did Celestia and Luna give up their immortality to help out Twilight? Something must've happened to them because aren't alicorns immortal? Apparently alicorns don't seem to exist anymore in the new generation. If someone has a theory or an answer to these questions, I would really appreciate it. The new generation has a lot of unanswered questions/explanations that I'm curious about.
Maybe the Crystal Empire disappeared again and they’re possibly frozen in time until it returns, or maybe it didn’t and they’ve been shut off from the rest of the world (or vice versa). Maybe Cadance and Flurry Heart are still alive and well and maybe after Shining passed, have kept to themselves (their kingdom specifically) due to their grief.
@Pastel Nut I don’t know but it’s possible. I wonder if they’ll talk about in the next generation series. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. If there’s anything else, fill free to share.
@Jacqueline Zambrano I think I remember it being mentioned that the og cast wouldn’t be around for the movie/show, so maybe everyone else is dead. Maybe Cadance and Flurry chose to give up their immortality to die with Shining Armor, so maybe if we do get an episode in the Crystal Empire, we’ll see Flurry’s descendants ruling instead. (I would be a little sad about this because I’d like to see what adult Flurry is like but I wouldn’t be against her being gone either.)
@Pastel Nut Well one thing for sure, it would make sense that Twilight would give up her immorality to not outlive her friends but it makes me wonder if Celestia and Luna also helped Twilight out that lead to the creation of the artifacts and for them to sacrifice their immortality. It also makes me curious to know if Discord did the same to not outlive Fluttershy since he's not even mentioned either and he's immortal as well (even though he's not an alicorn). As for Cadence and Flurry Heart, it's possible that they gave up their immortality to not outlive Shining Armor (and I'm surprised that male alicorns don't exist) but I agree that I would like to see more of Cadence and Flurry Hearts' rule during and possibly after Twilight's rule. Hopefully there's more answers to this as well but who knows? They may never give the answers or just give little or vague details of what happened before the events of the new generation movie. If there's more you'd like to share or thoughts on what I said, fill free to respond. I'm going to miss the greatness of "Friendship is Magic" so I'm not sure if "A New Generation" is going to surpass it.
My theory was that since the book said ‘the stars will aid in her escape’, Twilight was infact the one who freed Nightmare Moon and also Luna. Celestia may have seen this and it may be why she became her prize pupil after getting her cutiemark- which is made of stars and clearly references the element of magics symbol
So this is kind of unrelated to the video but not sure where to ask - how do cutie marks work in g5? I was sure there was a magic element to them but they seemed to be present even without magic. And ponies only have them on one side - sure this is probably Hasbro's way of making them closer to toys, but could this have something to do with magic in-universe?
wasn't there an episode where Celestia wanted to act in a play but she couldn't act to save her life? wouldn't that mean that even her ignoring the signs of nightmare moon was also true?
I'm pretty sure that over the course of 1000 years at ANY point in between Celestia could've found the fitting element bearers and released Nightmare Moon if that were the case.
Maybe the 4 stars that freed NmM was actually trapped Grogar's essence that was locked away by Gusty using his own bell. Since the Capricorn solar body had 4 primary connecting stars that give it shape.
Headcannon: Celestia is pulling a season 9 style "twist Discord", only the twist is never revealed and literally everything that has ever happened was staged by Celestia and her already knowing the outcome as the ultimate omniscient mastermind.
I like to think she did it both because she wanted to set things in stone for Twilight AND because she wanted her little sister back and knew this was the only way to have both.
I have a headcanon, where there was a third sister. Sun, moon, and stars. The sister died at some point during Nightmare Moon's birth, and vowed to release her and reunite her sisters again. Got the idea because the legend said that the "satrs would aid on he release" os something similar, and it felt strange giving Luna power over two elements (we're not talking accurate astronomy here, it's a magic world) and only one element for the oldest sister. That star sister would be Cadence's mother, thus why she's the niece.
Well considering I did some research on this topic I found out scenes Celestia controlles the stars and the sun witch is a star would make scene, so I think Celestia did move the stars to test to see if twilight was the next right ruler
@Nathan Meersman Let me translate what they're saying for you. "Well considering I did some research on this topic, I found out that since Celestia controls the sun and the sun is a star, it'd make sense for Celestia to be able to move the stars around the moon to aid in Luna's escape, so that she could see if Twighlight would be able to defeat Luna, and there for be a good choice as the next ruler."
I always felt that magic in equestria was connected to the land they lived on. Its a thing the land generates, and it just finds its way into ponies like charging a phone or something. your magic would be limited without being on that land. as we see, in the human world you have limited magic until u have gems/artifacts that most likely came from equestria somewhere. So, knowing that. how would nightmare moon have magic... on the moon??? maybe alicorns have more magic or maybe the moon is still connected to equestria like our moon is connected to us. but like gravity, wouldnt the magic be a bit weaker?? or... does the moon have its own magic too?? i could see nightmare moon possibly getting some of her magic from the moon, in the way sunset gets some powers from her gem. she doesnt need it to have magic, but its quite a booster (or at least i think it was idk i havent watch it in months). id say I think the moon and sun do have their own magic, but it isnt controlled without help of a pony or smth. so... maybe her magic wasnt weaker, because she got some magic from the moon itself! it would be cool....
Actually, why is it only that Celestia had complete control over the situation or none at all? There's a third option. Celestia said that she "saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return". That could be true: It's just the signs she saw aren't the ones WE'D think to look for.
In "Celestial Advice", Celestia tells the tale of her own struggles coming to terms with sending Twilight to Ponyville in the first place. During her story, she says this:
"I knew there was a special group of fillies in Ponyville, but I kept inventing all kinds of reasons for why I shouldn't send you."
I think that the signs Celestia saw weren't in the stars but in Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Rarity, and Pinkie Pie: a special group of fillies who embodied the core Elements of Harmony, balances to whoever would wield the Element of Magic and further strengthen all the Elements' power to break Luna free of Nightmare Moon, a task Celestia was unable to complete wielding the Elements alone. With the prophesized thousandth Summer Sun Celebration coming, the timing was perfect except she hesitated because she was afraid of living without Twilight, her faithful student, a dear friend, in her life anymore.
In the end, she made the choice to send Twilight away to the ponies who were unknowingly waiting for her and moved the stars into position to unlock Nightmare Moon's prison with her proverbial fingers crossed because what happened next would be out of her hooves. Things would either work out with Twilight and her new friends' success leading to Luna being free once more and no longer suffering alone...or it'd fail and Nightmare Moon would become the new ruler of an eternally-darkened Equestria like in the first alternate Equestria we saw in "The Cutie Re-Mark". She had control of the stars and moved them into position to complete the prophecy, but ultimately she was just another pawn in the game albeit one that could see more of the board.
Wow, this is a cool concept! Celestia wanted twilight to develop a sense of independence, so she released nightmare moon! Though, if celestia released nightmare moon only so twilight can defeat her, then how was the prophecy that she would return on that day correct? Twilight most likely wasn’t born wet when the book with the prophecy was made
Maybe Celestia didn’t know how to reform Nightmare Moon so she waited for a pony to help her (that being Twlight of course) because she knew that that Twilight would be able to use her power to help restore Nightmare Moon
Looking forward to the new theory! If you haven't already, could you maybe do a theory of what happened to Twilight's old castle after she moved to Canterlot?
Why did Twilight move to Canterlot to rule Equestria? She literally had a castle grow out of the ground for her. I feel like it would've made more sense for her to rule from Ponyville.
Because Twilight's castle is used as the base for the School of Friendship, so she wouldn't have been able to rule from that. She would have had to move the whole court from Canterlot and it just wouldn't work
@Gill Ruane Yeah, but I feel like when she moved to Canterlot, she just became like Celestia, if that makes sense. Her castle was just more... Twilight. And does she still go on map missions?
I don't know how true to canon this is, but in the game of My Little Pony it says that "Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, responsible for raising the sun, the moon and the stars, she is also Twilight Sparkle's mentor."
So it really depends on do you trust the game or not
@Sawtooth Waves Can someone explain to me why Twillight from the Human-World does have wings when she "Pony-Up" and doesn't have wings when she is in Equestria? Twillight from Equestria on the other hand has wings in both worlds.
I d'ont think she did, there's two instances where it is shown, one in the episode where Starlight finished her studies and Twilight go crazy from thinkling about what would happen to her protege, and the finale of season 5, we see an instance of Nightmare Moon ruling a world in which Twilight never became the student of Celestia. So, while I love the idea of Celestia releasing a world threatening god just as a way to advance the training of her protege, I don't think it stick.
hey! i was kinda wondering if the book that closed at the end of mlp was actually the book that sunny’s dad was researching and that’s how the G5 came to be so doesn’t that mean sunny’s dad was a really important part of G5?
A good theory, but something is bugging me. When Starlight changed the past, which means Twilight didn't enroll in Celestia's school, the future still shows that Nightmare Moon escape. So it just wouldn't make sense why Celestia would free Nightmare Moon just like that?
I have this headcanon that Celestia effectively set herself a time limit; no matter what, she would release her sister after 1000 years, simply because she could not bear to imprison her sister for so long.
True to the decision she had made centuries prior, she'd release her sister n on the 1000th anniversary of her banishment, knowing she may very well be surrendering to Nightmare Moon in doing so.
Didn’t celestia say “we have to let her do this alone, it’s one of the last steps to proofing she’s ready” as well at one point before twilight became an alicorn
it's an interesting theory, a challenge for Twilight of her friends, it's not far-fetched that Celestia had plans for Twilight to become the princess of equestria the entire time, so she probably was behind a lot of the challenges they faced
Well the sun is a star and Celestia controls the sun so it’s possible that she can control the stars as well however they are so far away her magic can’t constantly control them meaning she, for 1000 years, moved the stars each and and every morning until they perfectly aligned to break the spell. But only on the 1000th night, when she knew she would go to the moon herself, she fully moved them. Being on the moon ment she had time to stop using magic, time to rest. Still however I don’t think she found that out until much later into the time, as she must of had some vision telling her that Luna isn’t Luna yet, she is still corrupt not herself. So then is when she brought the main 6 into play, after seeing the rain-boom she must have believed they were the key to the elements and so gambled to hope Luna would be reformed by them.
I think that was a test for twilight since she said "i knew you could do it" means she already knew about it, And that's a 100/99% chance that she freed nightmare moon... Then again nightmare moon's prison was for 1000 years! But magic in equestria is confusing sometimes, nature doesn't work there! Earth ponies can grow food and plants, Pegasi can control weather, unicorns can do all sort of spells/magic.... So Just like that Celestia can CONTROL the stars! It's a 99% chance she's the one who freed Nightmare Moon, To TEST Twilight Sparkle
"the stars will aid in her escape" means twilight's cutie mark. it means twilight and the mane 6, since twilight's cutie mark's big star represents twilight sparkle, and the small 5 other stars are her friends. this makes sense because they DO aid in her escape, they showed all elements of laughter, loyalty, generosity, kindness, honesty and magic. this is not celestia's doing, as the seeds for the tree of harmony were planted way back when she was a filly and starswirl disappeared into limbo. celestia cant write destinies, but the elements of harmony wrote twilight sparkles, maybe not the other mane 5, since their cutie marks did not fit uncannily like twilight's cutie mark did, but it would be granted that whatever friend group she was in, it would work. it wrote out the destiny of the villains and the heroes because it knew that without villains, there would be no heroes, which means no princesses to take after luna and celestia, which means a monotonous world of ponies.
Honestly, this is the most reasonable explanation. We already have every reason to believe that the tree of harmony can see and probably direct the future thanks to season 4. The map only cements this. So what was to stop the tree from predicting and altering the future long before then? Like a thousand years ago, when the elements were used to banish Luna. I highly doubt that Celestia and Luna knew enough about the elements at that point to control what they were going to do. So everything the elements did was likely predetermined by the tree. Up until the start of season 9, when the main 6 were finally given control over their own destinies and the future of Equestria.
In fact, I believe we can safely assume that the tree is responsible for practically every single villain appearing. The spell that banished nightmare moon had a time limit, Discord was freed after Twilight had enough time to learn about the magic of friendship (with a bit of help from Celestia sending the letters back), they could have very well assisted Tirek in his escape and we straight up know that the tree wanted the pony of shadows to be brought back. The only villains the elements didn't seem to account on their first appearance were Crystalis, Sombra and Cozyglow. And Cozyglow is easily up for debate with the student 6 having used the elements.
@Sawtooth Waves ahhhh you replied !! im ot sure if the stars around the moon have any meaning, as they seem to be randomly placed in an irregular trapeze shape, but I always had the reasoning that the stars as in the 5 other stars in twilight cutie mark and twilight herself as the big star represents the mane 6, and since they did set her free in the first and second episode of my little pony, I think that's all there is to it, and celestia knew that the "stars" were the mane 6 being formed, which is why she sent twilight to ponyville. to make friends with the infamous group that represented the 5 pillars (known to celestia, as the last was a mystery), so that twilight could make friends with them and bring back her little sister, like the prophecy, but acted oblivious to it at twilight's warning.
@Rendom Stranger yes, i think that is right. the tree was planted from an act of friendship, and a brave decision made to save equestria's future before starswirl and his group put themselves into limbo, sacrificing their own destinies in hopes that the world of ponies would be safe, and letting future destinies be written. this tree has definitely grown, as everyone feeds it love, friendship, and harmony, it gives equestria enlightenment.
So the tree fucked Luna over since it was counting on her snapping? She lost a 1000 years of ruling.
It sure fucked Spike over. Like despite he was by Twilight's side all of his life, apparently 5 mares Twilight only met for a day or two instantly has a stronger bond with her than Spike's bond with her. And how he kept getting excluded from the Mane 6 so much almost as if destiny is ensuring he's blocked from their bond due to he's not an Element Bearer.
@night shroud96 the tree cant cancel negative emotions, it can only spread positive ones, but it knows that the future conquerers of villains will defeat them or reform them, and they'll be stronger than before. the tree didn't write the destinies of the villains, just the heroes. and when did spike have a weaker bond than the other mane 6? he's a friend that bears all elements of the mane 6, but he isn't an element, because not everyone can represent elements. everyone has their own friendships, and not everyone can be a main character. spike knows he isn't second best, they all play a role and a different relationship in twilight's life.
@`` It's wrong on how Spike isn't allowed to be part of the Mane 6's bond though. He has been by Twilight's side and yet apparently that bond is easily eclipsed by 5 mares Twilight only met for a day? He's essentially her first friend and yet he's essentially blocked from being part of all the stuff the Mane 6 gets to do together. Its so damn wrong.
It also still comes off as the tree was counting on Luna snapping to use her as a "starter villain" for its heroes. It could have done SOMETHING instead of Luna losing a 1000 years of her life. And the fact the sisters are essentially tossed away by losing their connection to the elements. The tree offered no chance for the sisters to restore their connection. Like the sisters got NOTHING. As if Luna and Celestia are pawns tossed away now that they served their purpose to set up for the "real chosen ones".
Did you notice that every pony with magic has their own color. But when Celestia and Luna merged their crowns together it changed color to colorless or silver. Like When every pony use their magic as a shield to the Mane 7 in the final battle the shield was colorless or silver. And when Twilight use the united magic from The pillars, Mane 7 and the young 6 the magic was first without color and later every color. What could this mean?
U should touch on where all the other creatures like changelings, dragons, yaks, and gryffins etc went in the most recent MLP film. I’d really like to know what your theory on it is.
The thing is with Celestia, if she had been the one freeing Nightmare Moon, meaning she had been doing everything to help the Mane 6 grow. She can only see small glimpses but can bring just the right circumstances for the Mane 6 to prevail. Even later on Discord joining Celestia to organize the path to success for Mane 6 and play dumb like they always do.
I think celestia still will be able to be awake at eternal nights I don’t know but! I don’t think 4 stars would move towards eachother to the moon- that’s just literal Night or Space Magic- Otherwise I don’t know but I could been wondering if Celesita would turn into day-breaker it would be a very Dangerous fight if she turn on nightmare moon to fight like The Dream Starlight glimmer had-
Welp he’s still going off Lauren Faust’s tweet XD Also it’s a good theory but I like the Grogar theory where Grogar in the form of stars bailed out nightmare moon more 😁❤️
Will the your next video explain where the Cutie Mark Crusaders are when all of Equestria are assembled or why they didn't play their part at the Friendship Speech? That is the video you should be working on.
Can you do a video about what would have happened if we saw the CMC with their special_somepony in the MLP FIM show like Applebloom X Tender_Taps, Sweetie_Belle X Button_Mash and Scootaloo X Rumble?
ive been having the question for years for everyone.-if princess celestia and princess luna are like the queens but they are princesses then who is the queen of the universe?
Sawtooth if your seeing this comment then pls reply, the thing is I watched mlp alot of years ago but now I still don't understand 1 thing. Why do the Princesses have flowie hair I know that not only the Princesses have manes like that but my question is why does the mane flow? I had a little explanation but I don't know I just want to know your opinion on this theory Theory: When Cozy glow, Crisallis and tyraner or waht was the name I forgot sorry nvm was defeated by the mane six all the powers were returned to the ponies and we could see that celestia and lunas hair was down but when they got their magic back their manes were flowing again so that means that Their hair flows with help of the Special magic inside the Princesses ofcourse the mane six's hair flows when ever the elements of harmony releases a vast amount of power which the mane six controll over a short time thats why it dosen't flows for long Enough, the Princesses have a different level of power which allows themm to controll over the special power so that might explain why their hair always flows but I really want to know what you think pls make a video about this
I know you might not respond to this comment but I think you should look at this statement, so for some background knowledge I bought a book called “The Journal Of the two Sisters” and one part of the book caught my eye. quote “Dear diary, I’ve never really given my cutie mark much thought. As alicorns, we were always told that when it was time for it to appear, it just would. Nothing to really concern myself about, right? But then I was hanging out with star swirl this evening under the stars, and he said he wanted to teach me a spell that was too powerful or him, but he was confidant that with practice, I could perform it with my alicorn magic. Eager to perform any of star swirls spells, I asked what it was. “Moving the stars!” He replied with a wild gleam in his eyes. But as hard as I tried it turns out moving the stars takes a bit of concentration. As I was trying to focus on the stars, I became mesmerized by the moon. Star swirl is one of the unicorns who raises and lowers the sun and moon. He said he’d be happy to teach me. I thought maybe once I figured out how to raise and lower the moon, I could graduate to moving the stars. Star swirl was sure I’d be able to someday. He’s such a great friend, and I’m glad he has so much confidence in me-Luna” this is a portion of the diary that is written by Luna. Maybe she taught the spell to her sister celestia. As I don’t see why Luna would be able to move the stars while on the moon, remember when it was said that on the thousandth day of the thousands year, that the STARS WOULD ALIGN!!! This could be how she escaped, if celestia really is in control of the moon now i don’t see why she wouldn’t be in charge of the stars as well! I hope you look into this, it might not be Cannon but that’s for you to decide, I hope you read this
I agree with your theory sawtooth but we do have a tweet from Lauren Faust herself (which you mentioned in the CELESTIA released night mare moon video ) so I think that the real answer would be if you could find the answer to who controls the sun moon and stars ? But wait The sun = Celestia The moon = Luna The stars = ????? I think that Luna had some sort of link with the Stars (It's a working theory ) So if Celestia took up luna's job she would have the power of sun moon and stars But that's just a theory Brohoof
In the journal of the two sisters it’s said Luna can talk to animals a manticore friend in the show there was a manticore which must’ve been her friend that she had attack the mane six
My theory is complicated. Luna and nightmare moon are two different ponys to me. Nightmare moon is possessing Luna, and taking control while Luna is sitting idly by waiting for her escape and freedom. My thought is that Luna set nightmare moon free. She doesn't have much power anymore but she can still control some elements of the night while stuck in the night mare. She set nightmare moon free so that the main 6 could free her.
I see Nightmare Moon as Luna, but stuck in a magical emotional lock due to the dark magic that corrupted her. After 1000 years, she began to genuinely miss her sister deep down, but her magically-fueled pride and jealously clouded these feelings, and prevented Nightmare Moon from admitting these feelings to herself.
When the Mane 6 blasted Nightmare Moon with the Elements, they dispersed that dark magic, the "shell" that Luna had enveloped herself with a thousand years prior, allowing her to be open and honest about her feelings, and admit that she did in fact miss her sister and wished to reconcile with her.
I don't think that Celestia could've released Nightmare Moon. Even if she was in charge of both day and night while her sister was imprisoned, there has been no statement or clue about either of them being able to move the starts. So, I think there are only two possibilities: either Nightmare Moon was released by a magical and yet natural event, like that comet Twilight wanted to see on the cruise with her family, or someone else moved the starts to release Nightmare Moon.
it would be cool if you were to make a video , if twilight and the mane 6 were alive where would they be and what happened to them! also what happened to discord , the princesses , the crystal empire ? , flurry heart , starlight , etc.
Come to think of it, Do you think that its Twilight's fault that Celestia freed Nightmare moon, because at the beginning of the episode Twilight tells Spike to write a letter to Celestia warning her about the prophecy, therefore giving Celestia the idea to free her. Also i just remembered, Spike was resisting to sent the letter to Celestia, maybe this is due to him knowing of Celestia's intentions hoping to prevent what's to come of letter.
Where are the other creatures? The whole series near its last few seasons was centred around unity not just for ponies but for all of the world Griffins and dragons and changelings all together because everyone is capable of love and friendship in its own way So where in the heck are they? Dragon lord before Amber lived like decades multiple of em So I’m assuming Amber can as well atleast with that staff Changelings just like dragons and other dragons arent bound by pony magic They have their own magic So what in the world is stopping them from first of all existing in the movie and second of all INTERFERING All of the leaders made friends with Twilight and each other They were all living in harmony So why in the world did they just say: lLol we ain’t gonna help our friends in need” that song twilight sang once is not gonna help us Come on Thorax would have tried to prevent this Even Spike and Amber would at least try something assuming Amber became much older then twilight following sawtooths theories So like…. Why wouldnt they help They have expierenced friendship and how much its needed So why would they just Drop the idea of it and leave the ponies alone?
That's out of theme, but... What if Sunny didn't fully became alicorn because she didn't wanted to? Her purpose was to return the magic to the ponies and not to became someone powerful or rule the Equestria so the artifacts gave her only a part of this magic to... Show her future? This part is messed up a little bit
Maybe Celestia did release nightmare moon well you see that Celestia said that saw the signs and way she said tells that she did release her and how can she see the signs of nightmare moon when she is one who caused it
Here is I think Luna Became Nightmare Moon:
Keywords: Wicked Mare Of Darkness.
Our keywords suggest that luna was in touch with the darkness, lets
compare this to another pony.
The pony of shadows, We get an explanation of how stygian became
the pony of shadows directly from him.
The darkness spoke to me and I listened, the darkness and I became
one.
We could compare this to Luna, She was jealous and in hatred but#
suddenly an entity of darkness enters her mind, saying that if she
agrees to become one she will be appreciated for raising the moon.
She walks to the throne room raising the moon as the darkness surrounds
her transforming her into a nightmare moon. I also think that when Luna
agreed to the darkness this created the black splotch in her cutie mark
showing that she is now consumed in darkness.
Conclusion: The darkness spoke to Luna telling her that she would be
appreciated for raising the moon for eternal night, Luna agrees as the
black sploch forms on her cutie mark showing that she has been consumed
by darkness, the darkness surrounds her as she raises the moon transforming
her into a wicked mare of darkness, Nightmare Moon.
I've got a feeling celestia did free nightmare moon ofcourse nobody will know what will happen in the future but twilight knows nightmare moon is coming but how did celestia or she knows that the stars will ain her escape how will she know if the stars will even be there it's obvious celestia said that to control the stars without her she won't be able to escape or is that just weird
It sounds crazy but maybe the one who controls sun and stars is not celestia, it's starswirl he literally has star in his name and he was one of the unicorns who used to rise sun and moon together. But he was sent to limbo before luna even became evil so the only theory I could think of is that gusty sent grogar to stars, but starswirl knew that he could escape after a period of time, so he may casted a spell that when grogar finally has the power to escape stars, he would be transferred into the moon! And his transition gave nightmare moon a chance to escape! I know it sounds so wrong but it lowkey makes sense
I still bet it was Discord who set everything up. I bet he helped luna become nightmare moon and I get he for sore the future war in where all friendship is gone. With out twilight and her stories and adventures the future mlp generations couldn't possibly become united as we are shown in the Netflix movie of mlp, the new gen that the main character is read a story of twilight before bed which inspires her to seek out other types of mlp characters. I'm waffling but yer it's all connected thanks to one of the most recent films 😹
"The stars will aid in her escape" Is Celestia not the ruler of a star??? Did she not aid in her escape? Regardless of the size of her role, she had to have some part in it.
@Reese yes, the sun IS a star. I didn't say all stars, just that she is the respective ruler of a star and I imagine hers would be one of those to aid her escape.
I have question and a theory for mlp a new generation. I hope you could show it on your channel. Question: WHERE IN THE NAME OF CELESTIA ARE ALL THE OTHERS! Where are the other types? People forget, it's not just ponies. Like where are the other, (cuz ur one) changelings, yaks, dragons, griffins, etc. Theory: did they die off? But I think that they might be hiding or something cuz I dont think the show would do that. Lol I'm turning in a girl sawtooth waves. I hope u can share my idea on YouTube, and if so pls give me credit.
In my theory I think Princess Celestia did release Nightmare moon/Luna but not for just any reason I think she released her because she thought that with twilight and her new friends could help reform Luna back to who she was and with the elements and working together twilight would accept her life in ponyville. But that’s just my theory maybe it was just the stars or is was Princess Celestia
Can you do a video about what would have happened if Fluttershy became an Alicorn instead of Twilight Sparkle since she wants to be friends with any creature big or small unlike Twilight who cares about books and is neglecting Spike's feelings?
Love the video and long time fan but why so short excited for the new vid but it would be amazing if u did a video why some pony families have last names and some don’t like maud pie and pinkie pie but rarity and sweetie bell don’t
Idk if Sawtooth Waves will actually consider this comment and and upload about it, but I wanna know what he'd think about the Feeling Pinkie Keen episode....If "twitchy tail" means falling objects, what I wanna know is....does the human pinkie in EG also have Pinkie sense? If so, how does it work for her?? She doesn't have the tail for twitchy tail, she can't do the ear flop combos.... And they never had "pony ups" until after sunset brought magic to the world
So what happened to Discord in the new movies??? He is a creature that is pure chaos He can do whatever he wants he could just snap his claws and poof all the crystals are in sunny’s hoofs assuming he hasn’t gone rogue again, I doubt he would go all villain again because of fluttershy changing him and allowing him to see the value of friendship and love Maybe once Fluttershy has passed 😭 he could have gone evil again but I doubt it Love and friendship last a while especially with how much Discord cared for fluttershy and vice versa I have a few theories of my own but honestly I have little clue of what actually happened: Either after all of his friends passings he said: Maan heck this i’m outta here He created a few clones of himself and went his own dandy way never looking back.. but thats a boring answer So maybe he died? Its not likely since he’s immortal and only by being normal he disappears which could have happened but like little chance this theory is a lot more confusing. My theory for now is that: Discord and fluttershy got married and they lived a long happy life however fluttershy is not immortal and eventually she had to go With her friends around her discord wanted fluttershy to have a safe passing to the afterlife and so he guided her to it (btw I’m almost crying by the idea of fluttershy dying) thats when discord felt true harmony and he decided to leave his body and continue on like he did in the episode where Starlight was the headmare. He didnt die he just astral projected himself to the afterlife together with fluttershy (Its a happier ending then my others so Imma stick with this one) 😭
Did you make a video on why the cutie marks keeps appearing in g5 while there no magic? To me it's a plot whole and the movie don't have a really good writing anyway :/
Sawtooth As I was watching Equestria girls When twilight first visited the human world she was talking to pinkie pie when pinkie said this she asked twilight has she ever visited before and stated that someone that looked just like her with the same dog was seen and who's like that human twilight and this was before magic in canterlot high so what we're the reasons that made human twilight visit canterlot why?
I know your thoughts and theories are pretty cool but CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO EG because I have a theorie about it just think wouldn't the EG charters still be alive because it never really ended and I realized that time works slower then equestria you tell in friendship game so I think there not dead
But wow sawtooth you must really hung up on old chrysalis since she must have been the only changeling that actually cared and liked you. I guess she is the only closet thing you have to family.
Totally unrelated from the specific topic... BUT!! I seriously wanna hear ur theory about pinky pie's "just a hunch" on the human and ponyworld. BECAUSEEE I saw a blooper where there's a pinkie from the pony world that came to human world. And the pinkie from human world entering the pony world
Can we appreciate how they put a lot of effort into there videos for us and they makes the best engineering videos for us and they always makes our day or night even better keep it up
Since you did a video about what would happen if Spike was a pony, can you do a video about what would have happened if Spike never existed in MLP FIM show since he is not getting the same kind of attention as Twilight Sparkle and her friends and is made to look pathetic?
I think that I know who released nightmare moon did you see that twilight sparkles element look like a star maybe the tree of harmony used that element
Please put my comment in your next video realeted to this I want to say that celestia realised nightmare moon give her a chance to be a good princess and rule equestria together peacefully
Wait look at Twilight cutie mark its the same line up as that one it's to same one just check the moon and the earth and you see that means I like controls the stores and she has a tumor that has also make sense
What if Celestia freed Nightmare Moon, not as a trial for Twilight, but to simply try to bring her sister back? She might've thought that, as a stronger alicorn, she would be able to un-corrupt her. But, because she lacked the elements of harmony, she failed.
Hey I found something who else has a start mark luna have moon mark and slestia have sun mark hmm is starlight glimer controlling the starts I think starlight glimer is controlling it bc look she can travel to time bc of a paper hmm so I think it's starlight glimer make a theory about it
Ok so this may be a normal question but Pls make a video of it because when twilight became the new queen of equestria what happened to her canterlot prep friends since she needed to be in equestria every day?
Wait A second how the villains in tartars eat???? Do the Guards bring them food? Also I know there are no toilets, But where do they use the bathroom?! On the Rock floor?
If u watch closely in fame and misfortune there will be sign with human rarity crossed but no one knows that their is there human version of them except the main six (also the princess) but how town people knows This?
Twilight sparkle cutie mark the moon picture and Twilight sparkle cutie mark see any difference the tiny star Step Up and Windows stores comments they make the same like this coming white white lines in her cutie mark is actually actually she is controlling the stars because she has stall cutie mark and they have both won she controls the stars rating she's a princess celestia The Princess and Prince half wishes controlling the stores guess who else have stores vinati things start with Y with change by which it right she would never do that if she didn't know see that lets you what you said
No maybe it is discord but see When Lauren told who controls the Stars That means who is a star guess who sun Sun is a star too that means i is maybe celestial
about scorpion My Little pony and what happens to to Queen Chrysalis when starlight defeats her and after she makes his clothes at the My Little pony the five the six friends what happens to her after that what do you think happens and and in the movie like what do you think who why were they all like why didn't the map show all those places even before they went there because like wouldn't that map show you the entire world though first I think that's weird and in the future twice hair starts slowing like Alessia and lunas did and starlight she gets the entire School of friendship in the future and gets married to whatever his name is I'm guessing twilight's purple is related to them cuz she has her skin and and he has her hair his hair like it's obvious and who's the very first bad guy in this world who is it hope you can find out
Celestia was playing Twilight the whole time.... with the help of Pinkie! Think about it. Twilight was sent to Ponyville to oversee the celebration and meet Applejack, Fluttershy, Rarity and Rainbow Dash. Then Pinkie throws a party that puts them all in the right place at the right time. Coincidence?
Do you remember the season 5 finale "The Cutie Re-Mark?" I think that episode was meant to confirm that Nightmare Moon most likely escaped the moon herself. Plus, I think just like how Discord did in the series finale, Celestia's task for Twilight to find the elements of harmony and use them to restore Nightmare Moon back to Luna was meant to give her the experience and understanding on what she needs to do and be in order to become a worthy successor to the throne because Celestia probably wanted to eventually spend more time with Luna as a friend/family member. The only difference between Discord's and Celestia's methods was Discord's was probably more reckless than Celestia's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhSQ6t5Z_00list=PL4pRsQsJLtNWGE753n8hCkFMr9EzV8g6h&index=8
I have just discovered something. what if Fluttershy is related to hitch think about it hitch can’t talk to animals but he has a special connection to them. Maybe somewhere around the past there was an earth pony mix up.
I think Rainbow Dash is very special because in the story there is something sonic Rainboom Rainbooms and when twilight defeated nightmare moon on the episode twilight game into Bonnieville it was a rainbow circling her but then everything was a Rainbo I don’t understand still I an DIEING to know
I am coming because you to blame the wrong gay in your 114th video 1. Sanset swap bitvin 2 realitís that craun, 2. Flash Sentry wasnt inaf close to get to portal, 3. Gards are absolut idiots in theyr works. And that is end of my list of defense of that poor guy.
idk if your familiar whit Lyra x Bon Bon BUT episode season 9 episode 22 ore 23 ( big mcintosh get married whit suger belle ) and than got to 7:47 and look at the background ;)
Nope. Oh yea- check out matpat and see if you can spot something that’s similar to your videos. He does fnaf lore even though Scott never attended to there to be any. You do mlp lore and hasbro actually never attended there to be any. Proof is the mlp movie where canterlot has been totally rebuilt, birds are now pirates and can talk, our main 6 let birds do the work, one cat can stand on two legs and talk, and there’s too many creatures that look like they’re in the wrong movie to even name. Wow this world really falls apart if you think about it for at least 1.2 seconds.
@Reese did thorax and pharynx have an older named larynx and did Celestia and Luna have a younger brother named staro twinklo and did ember have two younger siblings who were twins named flame and fire with fire as a female and flame as a male and with fire older than flame by 29 minutes.
Off topic but I was recently thing about the ages of Mlp Fim and how season’s 1, 2 & 3 is the golden age the the seasons after equestria Girls is the silver age like in Dc and Marvel comics, What do you thing about this Concept?
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Can you do a theory video about what would happen if Twilight Sparkle was better off with either Comet_Tail or Stygian cause I think Flash_Sentry is better off with Sunset_Shimmer? Would she have an Alicorn child with one of them?
I know the books aren’t necessarily canon, but Celestia legitimately stages a monster attack to help a group of students learn defense spells in “Princess Celestial and the Summer of Royal Waves,” which is strikingly similar to how you’re describing your new interpretation of Nightmare Moon’s return.
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Celestia got angry with Discord for uniting the villains and pretending to be Grogar. If she did release Luna, even if she knew Twilight could reform her, she'd be one hеll of a hypocrite😆
35 likesIt's Celestia not Celestial, thought it was a typo, but then you wrote it twice🤨
6 likes@Mihoshi009
3 likesWhat's a typo?🤨
It's not ordinary old typo, you banana🍌 brain🧠. It's true, and I know it😠. And that's no joke🌀, ever😡, if it's the last thing I ever do 😤
@Mihoshi009 its probably just autocorrect celestia is one letter off from celestial
9 likesAll chrysalis wanted was to be a good leader. But really I wouldn't feel too sorry for her.
5 likesShe never did anything good for the hive or the other changelings. They don't need her anymore in fact they never needed her in the beginning.
3 likesShe was jealous of thorax and she was mad at starlight.
4 likesShe was angry at the mane 6 and spike for taking her children away from her and her home and replaced her with the trader thorax.
3 likesIn other words chrysalis couldn't take it anymore and she left that very day and never came back. Thorax said yeah that's right get out and stay out.
1 likeChrysalis said uhhh the equestrians ruin everything.
1 likePrincess celestial is the princess of the sun how will she do that
1 like@Idaliz-16-Tiburcio nope
0 likes@Idaliz-16-Tiburcio princess twilight sparkle of equestria and the pony princess of the ponies.
1 likeEver heard of filly funtasia?
0 likes@Idaliz-16-Tiburcio will king thorax be angry with sawtooth.
0 likesHi
0 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 don't worry if there's one it's that chrysalis is gone.
1 like@kk I wouldn't feel too sorry for her.
0 likesWow. I didn’t think this was gonna be short. This’ll be awesome though. You make great vids dude. Keep it up
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I agree though I didn like it that much
2 likesyea me too
1 likeSame i do agree
1 likeJust remember, back then, Celestia had a more omniscient and omnipresence in MLP, that's all you need to know in order to understand how Luna got out of the moon.
55 likesWhen Celestia can talk about "signs" and write a book about it, give Twilight guidance which Twilight misunderstood (part of being omniscient on Celestia's part), that means it's suppose to be a mystery how Celestia knew exactly how things would play out - she was more of a god then, before hashbro nerfed her.
This works with a theory I have. Celestia was creating the bearers of the elements before Twilight. Sunset Shimmer as the bearer of Magic, Cadance as the bearer of Laughter, Shining Armor as the bearer of Loyalty, I don't have any idea who would have been honesty , kindness, or generosity. This would explain why Cadance a Princess was going to public school and babysitting Twilight, Celestia saw the connection between Cadance and Shining Armor. We know Celestia has some ability of prophecy and could be using that gift to find possible bearers. This even plays with how Sunset Shimmer fell, Celestia saw one of her students become a bearer of Magic then later an Alicorn. At the time she made the error of thinking that the student would have been Sunset, leading Sunset to her own downfall. Celestia's School of gifted Unicorns could have been set up just to fine the Bearer of Magic.
196 likesSummary: Celestia using prophecy was trying to find bearers of Harmony even before Twilight Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer bearer of magic, Cadance bearer of Laughter, and Shining Armor bearer of Loyalty.
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I believe🌟 in the Spirits🌠 of the Elements💎 of Harmony🎼:
5 likesTwilight🌟 Sparkle♀️💑💞💜: Magic🌌.
Spike♂️🔥📃🖊💚💜: Friendliness💛.
Rarity♀️🧵👗🤍: Generosity💎.
Applejack♀️🚜🍎🧡: Honesty🍎.
Pinkie Pie♀️🎆🎊🎂💖: Laughter😄.
Fluttershy♀️🏞🐇💞💛: Kindness😇.
Rainbow🏳️🌈 Dash♀️🏎🏅💙: Loyalty👸.
Good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️🥺😇🧡: Forgiveness🥺😇.
Good😇-hearted💛 Starlight🌟 Glimmer♀️♎💛😇💜: Justice♎.
Luster Dawn♀️💑🌼💞💖: Goodness😇.
Apple🍎 Bloom♀️💑🚜🍎💛: Happiness🙂.
Sweetie Belle♀️💑🧵👗🤍: Joyful😊.
Scootaloo♀️💑🏎🏅🧡: Fun🥳.
And, Good😇-hearted💛 Cozy Glow♀️💑👩🏫♟💖: Caring💖 😇 💞
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 love would be cadence
5 likes@Areebah sidiqui
4 likesI know. Pony🦄 Cadence♀️(🦄🌠🕊)[💙💫 + 💙💎, 2 💫🟡](💘💑💞)💖 is The Princess👸 of Love💘
I think not
1 likethis might be crazy but hear me out discord being the element of honestly would be a possibility in a way yes he is a trouble maker and alot of times but never really lied to the moments that i could say it the only times he really acted something was to encourage his friends and we even saw applejack doing this
9 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
1 likeYou're crazy 😠
@keks krieger44
2 likesI know Applejack♀️(🦄🐴)[🍎 + 5 🍎](🚜🍎💪)🧡 is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Honesty🥺. And Discord♂️ is the Spirit🌌 of Chaos. He was a trouble maker. But don't worry. He turned good😇
@keks krieger44 AJ's dad maybe? Or Granny Smith's parents? We know she was involved with the Apples settling in the place that became Ponyville back when Granny Smith was a young filly.
1 like@Elderscrollsswimmer that wouldn't really make sense in the time line as we know bright Mac and pear butter where still both around soe a portion of applejacks life even after she earned her cutie mark and thus becoming the "true" element of honesty
1 like@keks krieger44 ever heard of funtasia?
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
2 likes"Funtasia"🤨? Bah😠. You're crazy🤪, you coward 😤
I do love this, but it doesn’t follow the alternate timelines when Starlight stopped the rainboom. If Celestia had the ability to release her then why would she release her when there wasn’t anyone to stop her. It makes more sense that an exterior force released her and Nightmare overpowered Celestia and Twilight’s first victory was just that. a victory
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Damn, that's a good counter arguement
3 likesI have this headcanon that Celestia disguised herself as Nightmare Moon. When Celestia wielded the Elements and blasted Nightmare Moon, they had purified her, but Celestia used too much of her magic to bend them to her will and accidentally banished her sister. After 1000 years, the spell wore off and Luna returned, but was in a near-death state, so Celestia, giving Twilight and her friends the push they needed, disguised herself as Nightmare Moon, and what they went through in the Everfree Forest were test to ensure that the 6 were the ones to rightfully bear the Elements of Harmony. But Celestia had to rush the "final showdown" as Luna was nearing death, so she gave Twilight the final push she needed, then either redirected a portion of the rainbow blast onto Luna, or pulled Luna pulled Luna into the blast, both resulted in reviving her. Then after the Mane 6 collapsed , Celestia dropped her disguise, left the castle, put the sun and moon in their right places, and then returned to congratulate her student and welcome her sister back into the fold.
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Too convoluted to be considered without EXTREMELY convincing evidence.
7 likesI still agree with your theory Sawtooth, i too still believe that Celestia had everything to do with freeing Nightmare Moon i mean after all Celestia's the one who put her on the moon in the first place so if she put Nightmare Moon there then she could definitely release her too, i mean it's kinda like the part in "The Return Of Harmony Part 1" where Celestia said that the chamber of the elements of harmony was protected by a spell that only she could break and if that was so then that would mean Celestia would literally be the only one who could release nightmare Moon.
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Good theory,but what about the theory about Gorger who released Nightmare moon?
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2 likesThat's most worse, ridiculous thing I've ever heard👂 😠 😤
@MLP ANG Theory Guy Grogar didn't have any magic when he was turned into a constellation
2 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 1)Shut
0 likes2)Watch this video https://youtu.be/dEhQM8zCUYQ about did Grogar release Nightmare moon and leave out the part that
Sawtooth said that we saw Grogar in flesh and blood(it was proven that Discord was disguise as Grogar) and also it IS possible that when Cozy Glow almost drained all the magic from Equestria, that the Real Grogar escaped.
Forget it
0 likesHonestly I really think that she didn’t have much to do with Nightmare Moon, she did technically want her little sister back, though, she’s usually thinking of many pony’s of the town instead of just her sister
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I agree. Of course she wanted Luna back, but I dony believe that she would release NMM for the sake of Twilight defeating her. Twilight was smart enough to piece it together herself. She didn't need Celestia's input
1 likeWhat we know: Celestia wanted to get her sister back. Twilight's Cutie Mark was on the Tree of Harmony, so Celestia knew (or at least could reasonably guess) that Twilight would rediscover the Elements of Harmony. Nightmare Moon came back in at least one of the alternate timelines where the Rainboom didn't happen (although that one could be explained if Twilight got her cutie mark later and Celestia took interest, but due to other effects of the timeline changes, she was unable to rediscover the Elements of Harmony and failed to stop Nightmare Moon). There was a prophesy that said that Nightmare Moon would return in 1000 years after her banishment.
5 likesWhat actually makes the most sense is that Celestia either had to set the deadline at the beginning (when she was casting the spell 1000 years ago) and hope that she lived in a world where things work out or that she didn't release Nightmare Moon herself, that way it makes the prophesy and alternate timeline make the most sense, while still fitting Celestia's character of wanting to save Luna but being unable to do it at the time (I believe that the reason why Celestia banished Nightmare Moon was because the rift between her and Luna basically broke the connection between Celestia and the Elements of Harmony enough that all she could do was banish her, and it took Twilight forging a bond with the other ponies to use the Elements properly). But it could have also been other forces at play that freed Nightmare Moon and Celestia was just working within them to do her best to save her sister (by helping Twilight meet her friends).
My theory is that Celestia was prepping Cadence to defeat Luna, not Twilight. But when Celestia saw the potential in Twilight, she thought to let her try and keep Cadence as backup. (Celestia probably thought that CAdence could magic Love back into Nightmare Moon to stop her.) Which would also explain why Celestia would unseal Luna without Twilight during the Alternate Timeline. (In which Cadence would have failed. Because well, Nightmare Moon is too good for that!)
6 likesNo, she released Nightmare Moon cause she knew Twilight could reform her. It's been established that Celestia can see visions on things to come.
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same thing
8 likesand also, yes, i agree that she actually did that because she believe in the mane 6 with the elements of harmony
https://youtu.be/ndwZWWpV-JA
0 likesPerhaps, but we don’t know what causes those visions, if Celestia can control their frequency or detail or if they always occur when something disastrous is about to occur
2 likesI guess ur right,
3 likesis everyone just going to believe this completely stupid theory that has no proof at all basically. :/
2 likes@Nathan Meersman u see, as per my theory! Celestia just wanted to gave Twilight a Test
1 like@Nathan Meersman I think that was a test for twilight since she said "i knew you could do it" means she already knew about it,
1 likeAnd that's a 100/99% chance that she freed nightmare moon... Then again nightmare moon's prison was for 1000 years! But magic in equestria is confusing sometimes, nature doesn't work there! Earth ponies can grow food and plants, Pegasi can control weather, unicorns can do all sort of spells/magic.... So Just like that Celestia can CONTROL the stars! It's a 99% chance she's the one who freed Nightmare Moon, To TEST Twilight Sparkle
That's the comment i wrote XD
that isn't how the show's logic works though because "celestia" controls the day only and "luna" controls the night only so hopefully this fixes your research because next time do the research properly because if you don't then because it's better to let the pros who know how to do their research properly do the research because you always should fact check the facts and logic of the tv show when doing research on it and it helps to know what your doing basically. :/
1 like@Nathan Meersman Celestia did control the moon for 1 thousand years so she could have released her also.
1 like@Nоt RiскrоII 🅥 Are you saying I was on my soap box?
0 likes@WildKamots Celestia literally said I knew you could do it.
0 likes@Edmonton1704 She doesn't need to control them, only have one of Twilight reforming Nightmare.
0 likes@♡_𝓨𝓾𝓴𝓲_♡ [on break :)] Thank you.
0 likes@Nathan Meersman It's not baseless, Celestia has been shown to have visions. One of those could have shown Twilight reforming Nightmare.
1 like@Nyx Netherlight No, I’m just saying if she does control them, how could she trigger them to show her the appropriate thing
0 likesI don't think she knew for sure, but she definitely saw the potential in her. Also, we've never actually seen Celestia have visions of the *future*, only of threats elsewhere in the present.
0 likes@Nathan Meersman I mean it’s not completely insane (watch the Folly of Celestia, it gets the noggin joggin). If Celestia knew that Twilight could reform Nightmare Moon, it’s not inconceivable that she’d pursue this plan to EVENTUALLY get her sister back. And we do see, in the show, the Royal Sisters having visions
1 likeWell later in the series where Tirek returns we see Celestia has prophetic dreams. In Celestial Advice we see that Celestia had known who the Elements of Harmony where before hand as well, as she stuggle with WHEN to send Twilight to Ponyville. I think how her prophecies have limits related to how far in the future them even is. The future in the future the more vague the propecy is, the closer the more accurate. If Celestia has used her abilities to help her make decisions then her behavior makes sense.
5 likesShe knew Nightmare would return at a Farming Village outside the Everfree, so when the Apples petitioned her for land she knew what land to give them. She took on personal students because she knew a powerful Unicorn representing friendship would save Luna, her disappointment in Sunset was because she initially thought Sunset was the unicorn but her antisocial and power hungry tendencies proved that wrong. I don't think Celestia hand dore t control over anything she was prepared for, as she got details wrong. Like knowing Twilight would save the Crystal Empire, but not that she would do so by letting Spike bring the Crystal Heart to Cadence. She always planned and prepared for things she knew would happen, but as to causing events don't think she ever acted directly, she took steps to be ready and deal with consequences of events she couldn't stop.
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2 likesI wonder what happened to the rest of the alicorns. Did Princess Cadence and Flurry Heart give up their immortality for Shining Armor not being able to become an alicorn? What became of the Crystal Empire? Did Celestia and Luna give up their immortality to help out Twilight? Something must've happened to them because aren't alicorns immortal? Apparently alicorns don't seem to exist anymore in the new generation. If someone has a theory or an answer to these questions, I would really appreciate it. The new generation has a lot of unanswered questions/explanations that I'm curious about.
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Maybe the Crystal Empire disappeared again and they’re possibly frozen in time until it returns, or maybe it didn’t and they’ve been shut off from the rest of the world (or vice versa). Maybe Cadance and Flurry Heart are still alive and well and maybe after Shining passed, have kept to themselves (their kingdom specifically) due to their grief.
1 like@Pastel Nut I don’t know but it’s possible. I wonder if they’ll talk about in the next generation series. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. If there’s anything else, fill free to share.
0 likes@Jacqueline Zambrano I think I remember it being mentioned that the og cast wouldn’t be around for the movie/show, so maybe everyone else is dead. Maybe Cadance and Flurry chose to give up their immortality to die with Shining Armor, so maybe if we do get an episode in the Crystal Empire, we’ll see Flurry’s descendants ruling instead.
0 likes(I would be a little sad about this because I’d like to see what adult Flurry is like but I wouldn’t be against her being gone either.)
@Pastel Nut Well one thing for sure, it would make sense that Twilight would give up her immorality to not outlive her friends but it makes me wonder if Celestia and Luna also helped Twilight out that lead to the creation of the artifacts and for them to sacrifice their immortality. It also makes me curious to know if Discord did the same to not outlive Fluttershy since he's not even mentioned either and he's immortal as well (even though he's not an alicorn). As for Cadence and Flurry Heart, it's possible that they gave up their immortality to not outlive Shining Armor (and I'm surprised that male alicorns don't exist) but I agree that I would like to see more of Cadence and Flurry Hearts' rule during and possibly after Twilight's rule. Hopefully there's more answers to this as well but who knows? They may never give the answers or just give little or vague details of what happened before the events of the new generation movie. If there's more you'd like to share or thoughts on what I said, fill free to respond. I'm going to miss the greatness of "Friendship is Magic" so I'm not sure if "A New Generation" is going to surpass it.
1 likeMy theory was that since the book said ‘the stars will aid in her escape’, Twilight was infact the one who freed Nightmare Moon and also Luna. Celestia may have seen this and it may be why she became her prize pupil after getting her cutiemark- which is made of stars and clearly references the element of magics symbol
4 likesBut if she could’ve just freed Luna back, then why didn’t she do it earlier?
6 likesThat would be messed up to just leave your sister banished for 1000 years, knowing you had the power to free her.
Yes , it's definitely a possibility and Celestia really seems to know more than she shows
6 likesSo this is kind of unrelated to the video but not sure where to ask - how do cutie marks work in g5? I was sure there was a magic element to them but they seemed to be present even without magic. And ponies only have them on one side - sure this is probably Hasbro's way of making them closer to toys, but could this have something to do with magic in-universe?
7 likeswasn't there an episode where Celestia wanted to act in a play but she couldn't act to save her life? wouldn't that mean that even her ignoring the signs of nightmare moon was also true?
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Unless she was acting like she couldn't act.
4 likesI like the idea, but maybe you’re going about this the wrong way. Maybe another creature might have done this. Maybe…..
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open to that idea
6 likes@Sawtooth Waves in other words thorax was using his pony power to poison chrysalis.
0 likesYour theories never miss
14 likesI'm pretty sure that over the course of 1000 years at ANY point in between Celestia could've found the fitting element bearers and released Nightmare Moon if that were the case.
2 likesMaybe the 4 stars that freed NmM was actually trapped Grogar's essence that was locked away by Gusty using his own bell.
Since the Capricorn solar body had 4 primary connecting stars that give it shape.
Headcannon: Celestia is pulling a season 9 style "twist Discord", only the twist is never revealed and literally everything that has ever happened was staged by Celestia and her already knowing the outcome as the ultimate omniscient mastermind.
5 likesI like to think she did it both because she wanted to set things in stone for Twilight AND because she wanted her little sister back and knew this was the only way to have both.
5 likesI have a headcanon, where there was a third sister. Sun, moon, and stars.
1 likeThe sister died at some point during Nightmare Moon's birth, and vowed to release her and reunite her sisters again.
Got the idea because the legend said that the "satrs would aid on he release" os something similar, and it felt strange giving Luna power over two elements (we're not talking accurate astronomy here, it's a magic world) and only one element for the oldest sister.
That star sister would be Cadence's mother, thus why she's the niece.
Well considering I did some research on this topic I found out scenes Celestia controlles the stars and the sun witch is a star would make scene, so I think Celestia did move the stars to test to see if twilight was the next right ruler
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you have no idea what your saying at all which means you did no research for this video which means no proof.
3 likes@Nathan Meersman Let me translate what they're saying for you. "Well considering I did some research on this topic, I found out that since Celestia controls the sun and the sun is a star, it'd make sense for Celestia to be able to move the stars around the moon to aid in Luna's escape, so that she could see if Twighlight would be able to defeat Luna, and there for be a good choice as the next ruler."
1 likebut considering the show's logic it actually makes the theory fall apart no matter what basically. :/
1 like@Nathan Meersman I agree.
0 likesI always felt that magic in equestria was connected to the land they lived on. Its a thing the land generates, and it just finds its way into ponies like charging a phone or something. your magic would be limited without being on that land. as we see, in the human world you have limited magic until u have gems/artifacts that most likely came from equestria somewhere. So, knowing that. how would nightmare moon have magic... on the moon??? maybe alicorns have more magic or maybe the moon is still connected to equestria like our moon is connected to us. but like gravity, wouldnt the magic be a bit weaker?? or... does the moon have its own magic too?? i could see nightmare moon possibly getting some of her magic from the moon, in the way sunset gets some powers from her gem. she doesnt need it to have magic, but its quite a booster (or at least i think it was idk i havent watch it in months). id say I think the moon and sun do have their own magic, but it isnt controlled without help of a pony or smth. so... maybe her magic wasnt weaker, because she got some magic from the moon itself! it would be cool....
0 likesActually, why is it only that Celestia had complete control over the situation or none at all? There's a third option. Celestia said that she "saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return". That could be true: It's just the signs she saw aren't the ones WE'D think to look for.
1 likeIn "Celestial Advice", Celestia tells the tale of her own struggles coming to terms with sending Twilight to Ponyville in the first place. During her story, she says this:
"I knew there was a special group of fillies in Ponyville, but I kept inventing all kinds of reasons for why I shouldn't send you."
I think that the signs Celestia saw weren't in the stars but in Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Rarity, and Pinkie Pie: a special group of fillies who embodied the core Elements of Harmony, balances to whoever would wield the Element of Magic and further strengthen all the Elements' power to break Luna free of Nightmare Moon, a task Celestia was unable to complete wielding the Elements alone. With the prophesized thousandth Summer Sun Celebration coming, the timing was perfect except she hesitated because she was afraid of living without Twilight, her faithful student, a dear friend, in her life anymore.
In the end, she made the choice to send Twilight away to the ponies who were unknowingly waiting for her and moved the stars into position to unlock Nightmare Moon's prison with her proverbial fingers crossed because what happened next would be out of her hooves. Things would either work out with Twilight and her new friends' success leading to Luna being free once more and no longer suffering alone...or it'd fail and Nightmare Moon would become the new ruler of an eternally-darkened Equestria like in the first alternate Equestria we saw in "The Cutie Re-Mark". She had control of the stars and moved them into position to complete the prophecy, but ultimately she was just another pawn in the game albeit one that could see more of the board.
Wow, this is a cool concept! Celestia wanted twilight to develop a sense of independence, so she released nightmare moon! Though, if celestia released nightmare moon only so twilight can defeat her, then how was the prophecy that she would return on that day correct? Twilight most likely wasn’t born wet when the book with the prophecy was made
0 likesMaybe Celestia didn’t know how to reform Nightmare Moon so she waited for a pony to help her (that being Twlight of course) because she knew that that Twilight would be able to use her power to help restore Nightmare Moon
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She knew how, including that SHE couldn't do it; it had to be Twilight. Or rather, there had to be more than one person using the elements.
0 likes@Elderscrollsswimmer Maybe
1 likeLooking forward to the new theory! If you haven't already, could you maybe do a theory of what happened to Twilight's old castle after she moved to Canterlot?
0 likesI think it's as simple as the spell wore off, just like they say in the show. No reason to read into it too much.
2 likesWhy did Twilight move to Canterlot to rule Equestria? She literally had a castle grow out of the ground for her. I feel like it would've made more sense for her to rule from Ponyville.
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Because Twilight's castle is used as the base for the School of Friendship, so she wouldn't have been able to rule from that. She would have had to move the whole court from Canterlot and it just wouldn't work
1 like@Gill Ruane Yeah, but I feel like when she moved to Canterlot, she just became like Celestia, if that makes sense. Her castle was just more... Twilight. And does she still go on map missions?
1 likeThat's puzzled me too. If she doesn't go on the missions herself, I wonder who she does send instead.
0 likes@Gill Ruane She can't replace herself. If the map calls her cutie mark, it would require her
0 likesI don't know how true to canon this is, but in the game of My Little Pony it says that "Princess Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, responsible for raising the sun, the moon and the stars, she is also Twilight Sparkle's mentor."
1 likeSo it really depends on do you trust the game or not
@Sawtooth Waves Can someone explain to me why Twillight from the Human-World does have wings when she "Pony-Up" and doesn't have wings when she is in Equestria? Twillight from Equestria on the other hand has wings in both worlds.
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I have been waiting someone to ask that question for a while now! And I'm still trying to figure that out
1 likeI d'ont think she did, there's two instances where it is shown, one in the episode where Starlight finished her studies and Twilight go crazy from thinkling about what would happen to her protege, and the finale of season 5, we see an instance of Nightmare Moon ruling a world in which Twilight never became the student of Celestia.
0 likesSo, while I love the idea of Celestia releasing a world threatening god just as a way to advance the training of her protege, I don't think it stick.
I can’t waittttt you are absolutely right,
4 likesthere is a chance that Celestia planed this it is a good theory!!!!
hey! i was kinda wondering if the book that closed at the end of mlp was actually the book that sunny’s dad was researching and that’s how the G5 came to be so doesn’t that mean sunny’s dad was a really important part of G5?
0 likesLove your video's Sawtooth, they are so well thought out.
2 likesA good theory, but something is bugging me. When Starlight changed the past, which means Twilight didn't enroll in Celestia's school, the future still shows that Nightmare Moon escape. So it just wouldn't make sense why Celestia would free Nightmare Moon just like that?
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I have this headcanon that Celestia effectively set herself a time limit; no matter what, she would release her sister after 1000 years, simply because she could not bear to imprison her sister for so long.
4 likesTrue to the decision she had made centuries prior, she'd release her sister n on the 1000th anniversary of her banishment, knowing she may very well be surrendering to Nightmare Moon in doing so.
It's gonna be a great theory, I can feel it!
2 likesShouldn't nightmare moon return after king sombra. Since celestia defeated discord and sombra before luna
5 likesCelestia gives me huge Dumbledore vibes now XD
3 likesDidn’t celestia say “we have to let her do this alone, it’s one of the last steps to proofing she’s ready” as well at one point before twilight became an alicorn
0 likesLove the new snow themed background! Also cool scarf.
1 likeit's an interesting theory, a challenge for Twilight of her friends, it's not far-fetched that Celestia had plans for Twilight to become the princess of equestria the entire time, so she probably was behind a lot of the challenges they faced
0 likesI noticed that all the pony’s in a new generation have no cutie marks
3 likesCan you look into that?
Well the sun is a star and Celestia controls the sun so it’s possible that she can control the stars as well however they are so far away her magic can’t constantly control them meaning she, for 1000 years, moved the stars each and and every morning until they perfectly aligned to break the spell. But only on the 1000th night, when she knew she would go to the moon herself, she fully moved them. Being on the moon ment she had time to stop using magic, time to rest. Still however I don’t think she found that out until much later into the time, as she must of had some vision telling her that Luna isn’t Luna yet, she is still corrupt not herself. So then is when she brought the main 6 into play, after seeing the rain-boom she must have believed they were the key to the elements and so gambled to hope Luna would be reformed by them.
0 likesI think that was a test for twilight since she said "i knew you could do it" means she already knew about it,
8 likesAnd that's a 100/99% chance that she freed nightmare moon... Then again nightmare moon's prison was for 1000 years! But magic in equestria is confusing sometimes, nature doesn't work there! Earth ponies can grow food and plants, Pegasi can control weather, unicorns can do all sort of spells/magic.... So Just like that Celestia can CONTROL the stars! It's a 99% chance she's the one who freed Nightmare Moon, To TEST Twilight Sparkle
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I love this idea
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1 like"the stars will aid in her escape" means twilight's cutie mark. it means twilight and the mane 6, since twilight's cutie mark's big star represents twilight sparkle, and the small 5 other stars are her friends. this makes sense because they DO aid in her escape, they showed all elements of laughter, loyalty, generosity, kindness, honesty and magic. this is not celestia's doing, as the seeds for the tree of harmony were planted way back when she was a filly and starswirl disappeared into limbo. celestia cant write destinies, but the elements of harmony wrote twilight sparkles, maybe not the other mane 5, since their cutie marks did not fit uncannily like twilight's cutie mark did, but it would be granted that whatever friend group she was in, it would work. it wrote out the destiny of the villains and the heroes because it knew that without villains, there would be no heroes, which means no princesses to take after luna and celestia, which means a monotonous world of ponies.
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Honestly, this is the most reasonable explanation. We already have every reason to believe that the tree of harmony can see and probably direct the future thanks to season 4. The map only cements this. So what was to stop the tree from predicting and altering the future long before then? Like a thousand years ago, when the elements were used to banish Luna. I highly doubt that Celestia and Luna knew enough about the elements at that point to control what they were going to do. So everything the elements did was likely predetermined by the tree. Up until the start of season 9, when the main 6 were finally given control over their own destinies and the future of Equestria.
2 likesIn fact, I believe we can safely assume that the tree is responsible for practically every single villain appearing. The spell that banished nightmare moon had a time limit, Discord was freed after Twilight had enough time to learn about the magic of friendship (with a bit of help from Celestia sending the letters back), they could have very well assisted Tirek in his escape and we straight up know that the tree wanted the pony of shadows to be brought back. The only villains the elements didn't seem to account on their first appearance were Crystalis, Sombra and Cozyglow. And Cozyglow is easily up for debate with the student 6 having used the elements.
on a symbolic level i can see this but there were literal stars as well, depicted as four around each corner
1 like@Sawtooth Waves ahhhh you replied !! im ot sure if the stars around the moon have any meaning, as they seem to be randomly placed in an irregular trapeze shape, but I always had the reasoning that the stars as in the 5 other stars in twilight cutie mark and twilight herself as the big star represents the mane 6, and since they did set her free in the first and second episode of my little pony, I think that's all there is to it, and celestia knew that the "stars" were the mane 6 being formed, which is why she sent twilight to ponyville. to make friends with the infamous group that represented the 5 pillars (known to celestia, as the last was a mystery), so that twilight could make friends with them and bring back her little sister, like the prophecy, but acted oblivious to it at twilight's warning.
0 likes@Rendom Stranger yes, i think that is right. the tree was planted from an act of friendship, and a brave decision made to save equestria's future before starswirl and his group put themselves into limbo, sacrificing their own destinies in hopes that the world of ponies would be safe, and letting future destinies be written. this tree has definitely grown, as everyone feeds it love, friendship, and harmony, it gives equestria enlightenment.
0 likesSo the tree fucked Luna over since it was counting on her snapping?
0 likesShe lost a 1000 years of ruling.
It sure fucked Spike over.
Like despite he was by Twilight's side all of his life, apparently 5 mares Twilight only met for a day or two instantly has a stronger bond with her than Spike's bond with her.
And how he kept getting excluded from the Mane 6 so much almost as if destiny is ensuring he's blocked from their bond due to he's not an Element Bearer.
@Sawtooth Waves what a lame changeling thorax is.
0 likes@night shroud96 the tree cant cancel negative emotions, it can only spread positive ones, but it knows that the future conquerers of villains will defeat them or reform them, and they'll be stronger than before. the tree didn't write the destinies of the villains, just the heroes. and when did spike have a weaker bond than the other mane 6? he's a friend that bears all elements of the mane 6, but he isn't an element, because not everyone can represent elements. everyone has their own friendships, and not everyone can be a main character. spike knows he isn't second best, they all play a role and a different relationship in twilight's life.
0 likes@`` It's wrong on how Spike isn't allowed to be part of the Mane 6's bond though.
0 likesHe has been by Twilight's side and yet apparently that bond is easily eclipsed by 5 mares Twilight only met for a day?
He's essentially her first friend and yet he's essentially blocked from being part of all the stuff the Mane 6 gets to do together. Its so damn wrong.
It also still comes off as the tree was counting on Luna snapping to use her as a "starter villain" for its heroes.
It could have done SOMETHING instead of Luna losing a 1000 years of her life.
And the fact the sisters are essentially tossed away by losing their connection to the elements.
The tree offered no chance for the sisters to restore their connection.
Like the sisters got NOTHING. As if Luna and Celestia are pawns tossed away now that they served their purpose to set up for the "real chosen ones".
@Sawtooth Waves you can't stay on this channel forever king thorax will get you find out what you did.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves it's either stay low or get taught by the king changeling.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves don't worry about it. If there's one thing is that the villain trio is gone.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves the royal sisters and discord turn them to stone remember.
0 likesOoh! I haven’t watched it yet but I can already tell that’s it’s going to look stunning
17 likesDid you notice that every pony with magic has their own color. But when Celestia and Luna merged their crowns together it changed color to colorless or silver. Like When every pony use their magic as a shield to the Mane 7 in the final battle the shield was colorless or silver. And when Twilight use the united magic from The pillars, Mane 7 and the young 6 the magic was first without color and later every color. What could this mean?
0 likesU should touch on where all the other creatures like changelings, dragons, yaks, and gryffins etc went in the most recent MLP film. I’d really like to know what your theory on it is.
0 likesIt might be true, Celestia must've released nightmare moon to prepare twilight and her friends to fight against...
1 likebro this theory is so crazy imagine how twilight would feel after found out that celestia freed her .
0 likesSees title
5 likesTakes off glasses dramatically my God!
Celestia is the best Princess ever she did release her sister in the moon for the past couple years but who's going to stop her.
2 likesHi!!
3 likesYeah I also agree with this theory It does make sense!!!
This is gonna be a great theory!!
2 likesThe thing is with Celestia, if she had been the one freeing Nightmare Moon, meaning she had been doing everything to help the Mane 6 grow.
8 likesShe can only see small glimpses but can bring just the right circumstances for the Mane 6 to prevail.
Even later on Discord joining Celestia to organize the path to success for Mane 6 and play dumb like they always do.
Can you please make a video where you explain the reason why king Sombra didn’t reform and how he would!
2 likesI say yes also since Faust hinted a it on twitter with saying "Who controls the stars?" and the sun is a star so...
1 likeYes she did
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If she saw the signs then she would have been the first one to know that nightmare moon was going to be freed and some how set her free from the moon
2 likesCan't wait for the next video!
4 likeswhen she said "I saw the signs" maaaybbeeeee she meant "I saw signs that I can finally release her, and have her be turned back into Luna"
0 likesI think celestia still will be able to be awake at eternal nights
1 likeI don’t know but! I don’t think 4 stars would move towards eachother to the moon- that’s just literal Night or Space Magic-
Otherwise I don’t know but I could been wondering if Celesita would turn into day-breaker it would be a very Dangerous fight if she turn on nightmare moon to fight like The Dream Starlight glimmer had-
Welp he’s still going off Lauren Faust’s tweet XD
1 likeAlso it’s a good theory but I like the Grogar theory where Grogar in the form of stars bailed out nightmare moon more 😁❤️
I feel a certain goat was involed with nightmare moons ecscape
3 likesWill the your next video explain where the Cutie Mark Crusaders are when all of Equestria are assembled or why they didn't play their part at the Friendship Speech? That is the video you should be working on.
0 likesCan you do a video about what would have happened if we saw the CMC with their special_somepony in the MLP FIM show like Applebloom X Tender_Taps, Sweetie_Belle X Button_Mash and Scootaloo X Rumble?
1 likeI will never get sick of your videos ❤
1 likeive been having the question for years for everyone.-if princess celestia and princess luna are like the queens but they are princesses then who is the queen of the universe?
0 likesI swear you make me question everything I’ve ever watched on MLP.
1 likeI think the tree of harmony might control the star’s, just look at it
0 likesSawtooth if your seeing this comment then pls reply, the thing is I watched mlp alot of years ago but now I still don't understand 1 thing. Why do the Princesses have flowie hair I know that not only the Princesses have manes like that but my question is why does the mane flow? I had a little explanation but I don't know I just want to know your opinion on this theory
0 likesTheory:
When Cozy glow, Crisallis and tyraner or waht was the name I forgot sorry nvm was defeated by the mane six all the powers were returned to the ponies and we could see that celestia and lunas hair was down but when they got their magic back their manes were flowing again so that means that Their hair flows with help of the Special magic inside the Princesses ofcourse the mane six's hair flows when ever the elements of harmony releases a vast amount of power which the mane six controll over a short time thats why it dosen't flows for long Enough, the Princesses have a different level of power which allows themm to controll over the special power so that might explain why their hair always flows but I really want to know what you think pls make a video about this
Maybe this was like a test for twilight to learn friendship
0 likesI know you might not respond to this comment but I think you should look at this statement, so for some background knowledge I bought a book called “The Journal Of the two Sisters” and one part of the book caught my eye. quote “Dear diary, I’ve never really given my cutie mark much thought. As alicorns, we were always told that when it was time for it to appear, it just would. Nothing to really concern myself about, right? But then I was hanging out with star swirl this evening under the stars, and he said he wanted to teach me a spell that was too powerful or him, but he was confidant that with practice, I could perform it with my alicorn magic. Eager to perform any of star swirls spells, I asked what it was. “Moving the stars!” He replied with a wild gleam in his eyes. But as hard as I tried it turns out moving the stars takes a bit of concentration. As I was trying to focus on the stars, I became mesmerized by the moon. Star swirl is one of the unicorns who raises and lowers the sun and moon. He said he’d be happy to teach me. I thought maybe once I figured out how to raise and lower the moon, I could graduate to moving the stars. Star swirl was sure I’d be able to someday. He’s such a great friend, and I’m glad he has so much confidence in me-Luna” this is a portion of the diary that is written by Luna. Maybe she taught the spell to her sister celestia. As I don’t see why Luna would be able to move the stars while on the moon, remember when it was said that on the thousandth day of the thousands year, that the STARS WOULD ALIGN!!! This could be how she escaped, if celestia really is in control of the moon now i don’t see why she wouldn’t be in charge of the stars as well! I hope you look into this, it might not be Cannon but that’s for you to decide, I hope you read this
1 likeNicely Done!!! Keep Up The Magnificent Work Sawtooth Waves!!!
0 likesI agree with your theory sawtooth but we do have a tweet from Lauren Faust herself (which you mentioned in the CELESTIA released night mare moon video ) so I think that the real answer would be if you could find the answer to who controls the sun moon and stars ? But wait
0 likesThe sun = Celestia
The moon = Luna
The stars = ?????
I think that Luna had some sort of link with the Stars
(It's a working theory )
So if Celestia took up luna's job she would have the power of sun moon and stars
But that's just a theory
Brohoof
Yeah, given how manipulative and secretive Celestia is depicted as being in the show, I wouldn't completely put it past her to do something like this.
0 likesCould you maybe make a theory about what happened to Applejack parents cuz I would really like to hear your theory about it! <3
0 likesIn the journal of the two sisters it’s said Luna can talk to animals a manticore friend in the show there was a manticore which must’ve been her friend that she had attack the mane six
1 likeKnow I want to rewatch the whole series T3T
0 likesI knew that she did it! She misses her sister. That’s all
0 likesBut Grogar didn't have any magic when he was turned into a constellation right
0 likesso your timeline theory of starlight creating a multiverse. what would a new generation be like
1 likein the multiverse
I totally cant wait for these theory!!
0 likesWait I always thought this was a canon fact 😳
0 likesWhen I first saw the title I was like- Its like the old video! And I see it is just a remake (in a sense) as the old video
0 likesThat was very fast! I think you have a good idea of what could’ve happened
2 likesThese videos and theories are amazing
0 likesDoes anyone ever wonder what happened to the wonderbolts at the end of the show…
0 likesMy theory is complicated.
2 likesLuna and nightmare moon are two different ponys to me. Nightmare moon is possessing Luna, and taking control while Luna is sitting idly by waiting for her escape and freedom. My thought is that Luna set nightmare moon free. She doesn't have much power anymore but she can still control some elements of the night while stuck in the night mare. She set nightmare moon free so that the main 6 could free her.
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I see Nightmare Moon as Luna, but stuck in a magical emotional lock due to the dark magic that corrupted her. After 1000 years, she began to genuinely miss her sister deep down, but her magically-fueled pride and jealously clouded these feelings, and prevented Nightmare Moon from admitting these feelings to herself.
1 likeWhen the Mane 6 blasted Nightmare Moon with the Elements, they dispersed that dark magic, the "shell" that Luna had enveloped herself with a thousand years prior, allowing her to be open and honest about her feelings, and admit that she did in fact miss her sister and wished to reconcile with her.
@TwilyEllie makes more sense than mine
1 likeI don't think that Celestia could've released Nightmare Moon. Even if she was in charge of both day and night while her sister was imprisoned, there has been no statement or clue about either of them being able to move the starts. So, I think there are only two possibilities: either Nightmare Moon was released by a magical and yet natural event, like that comet Twilight wanted to see on the cruise with her family, or someone else moved the starts to release Nightmare Moon.
0 likesTechnically, Lauren Faust's original idea was that Celestia planned it all along. However, whether that's official or not, we'll never know.
0 likesSawtooth.... I LOVE your videos😁, keep up the good work😄
9 likesWait a second! If Luna can be banished to the moon! Does that mean that celestia can be banished to the sun?
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@Jellyfan ✨don’t end cult exactly
2 likesNah she would die the sun is made of fire the moon is just a rock that's why luna could survive
1 likeit would be cool if you were to make a video , if twilight and the mane 6 were alive where would they be and what happened to them! also what happened to discord , the princesses , the crystal empire ? , flurry heart , starlight , etc.
0 likesI read the title as "did Celestia free Celestia moon?" at first lol
0 likesThis video was surprisingly short. 😅
3 likesThe Star help Nightmare Moon escape . I can tell that cause it in Twilight prophecy in Twilight book in season 1 episode 1
1 likeCome to think of it, Do you think that its Twilight's fault that Celestia freed Nightmare moon, because at the beginning of the episode Twilight tells Spike to write a letter to Celestia warning her about the prophecy, therefore giving Celestia the idea to free her. Also i just remembered, Spike was resisting to sent the letter to Celestia, maybe this is due to him knowing of Celestia's intentions hoping to prevent what's to come of letter.
0 likesWhere are the other creatures?
0 likesThe whole series near its last few seasons was centred around unity not just for ponies but for all of the world
Griffins and dragons and changelings all together because everyone is capable of love and friendship in its own way
So where in the heck are they?
Dragon lord before Amber lived like decades multiple of em
So I’m assuming Amber can as well atleast with that staff
Changelings just like dragons and other dragons arent bound by pony magic
They have their own magic
So what in the world is stopping them from first of all existing in the movie and second of all INTERFERING
All of the leaders made friends with Twilight and each other
They were all living in harmony
So why in the world did they just say: lLol we ain’t gonna help our friends in need” that song twilight sang once is not gonna help us
Come on Thorax would have tried to prevent this
Even Spike and Amber would at least try something assuming Amber became much older then twilight following sawtooths theories
So like…. Why wouldnt they help
They have expierenced friendship and how much its needed
So why would they just
Drop the idea of it and leave the ponies alone?
That's out of theme, but... What if Sunny didn't fully became alicorn because she didn't wanted to? Her purpose was to return the magic to the ponies and not to became someone powerful or rule the Equestria so the artifacts gave her only a part of this magic to... Show her future? This part is messed up a little bit
0 likesMaybe Celestia did release nightmare moon well you see that Celestia said that saw the signs and way she said tells that she did release her and how can she see the signs of nightmare moon when she is one who caused it
1 likeHere is I think Luna Became Nightmare Moon:
0 likesKeywords: Wicked Mare Of Darkness.
Our keywords suggest that luna was in touch with the darkness, lets
compare this to another pony.
The pony of shadows, We get an explanation of how stygian became
the pony of shadows directly from him.
The darkness spoke to me and I listened, the darkness and I became
one.
We could compare this to Luna, She was jealous and in hatred but#
suddenly an entity of darkness enters her mind, saying that if she
agrees to become one she will be appreciated for raising the moon.
She walks to the throne room raising the moon as the darkness surrounds
her transforming her into a nightmare moon. I also think that when Luna
agreed to the darkness this created the black splotch in her cutie mark
showing that she is now consumed in darkness.
Conclusion: The darkness spoke to Luna telling her that she would be
appreciated for raising the moon for eternal night, Luna agrees as the
black sploch forms on her cutie mark showing that she has been consumed
by darkness, the darkness surrounds her as she raises the moon transforming
her into a wicked mare of darkness, Nightmare Moon.
I think it was more that she knew that it was on a timer and rolled with it
0 likescan you make a theory of how Pinkie knows everything?
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Easy; it's Pinkie Pie.
0 likes1,000 years isn't long enough. If you ever get imprisoned in the moon, let's hope it's forever.
0 likesI've got a feeling celestia did free nightmare moon ofcourse nobody will know what will happen in the future but twilight knows nightmare moon is coming but how did celestia or she knows that the stars will ain her escape how will she know if the stars will even be there it's obvious celestia said that to control the stars without her she won't be able to escape or is that just weird
0 likesYou used ur whole brain for that one😭
2 likesIt sounds crazy but maybe the one who controls sun and stars is not celestia, it's starswirl he literally has star in his name and he was one of the unicorns who used to rise sun and moon together. But he was sent to limbo before luna even became evil so the only theory I could think of is that gusty sent grogar to stars, but starswirl knew that he could escape after a period of time, so he may casted a spell that when grogar finally has the power to escape stars, he would be transferred into the moon! And his transition gave nightmare moon a chance to escape! I know it sounds so wrong but it lowkey makes sense
0 likesAll the other changelings even thorax never had time for you sawtooth so chrysalis was the only one that had time for you.
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Please don't assume things about people's OCs unless they confirm it.
0 likesI still bet it was Discord who set everything up. I bet he helped luna become nightmare moon and I get he for sore the future war in where all friendship is gone. With out twilight and her stories and adventures the future mlp generations couldn't possibly become united as we are shown in the Netflix movie of mlp, the new gen that the main character is read a story of twilight before bed which inspires her to seek out other types of mlp characters. I'm waffling but yer it's all connected thanks to one of the most recent films 😹
0 likeshey what do you think happend to the others like yona, Sandbar, Smolder, Gallus, Ocellus, and Silverstream
1 likeyou know the 3rd gen of main six
I love this theory
0 likes"The stars will aid in her escape"
0 likesIs Celestia not the ruler of a star??? Did she not aid in her escape? Regardless of the size of her role, she had to have some part in it.
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Celestia only controls the sun, not the stars in the night sky.
0 likes@Reese yes, the sun IS a star. I didn't say all stars, just that she is the respective ruler of a star and I imagine hers would be one of those to aid her escape.
0 likesNOOOOO, "CELESTIA" BETRAYED US
2 likes-Pappy The Pirate
Reference To Spongebob
I Only Replaced One Word >>>>>Spongebob
but it said in the books twilight was reading nightmare moon would be released on the 100th year I'm not sure on the year but I think it said that.
0 likesAre you going to do a theory about grogar’s bell in g5
0 likesI have question and a theory for mlp a new generation. I hope you could show it on your channel. Question: WHERE IN THE NAME OF CELESTIA ARE ALL THE OTHERS! Where are the other types? People forget, it's not just ponies. Like where are the other, (cuz ur one) changelings, yaks, dragons, griffins, etc. Theory: did they die off? But I think that they might be hiding or something cuz I dont think the show would do that. Lol I'm turning in a girl sawtooth waves. I hope u can share my idea on YouTube, and if so pls give me credit.
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Btw dont mind my name. This is my mom's account. I can't comment on mine
1 likeI thought you usually post on Friday. Must be a special day
2 likesGood theory as usual
2 likesIn my theory I think Princess Celestia did release Nightmare moon/Luna but not for just any reason I think she released her because she thought that with twilight and her new friends could help reform Luna back to who she was and with the elements and working together twilight would accept her life in ponyville. But that’s just my theory maybe it was just the stars or is was Princess Celestia
0 likesThe other changelings relized that she was only treating them like drones.
0 likesI wasn't expecting a video today.... Did you change the days???
1 likeYou're now promoted to the CEO of MLP theories
0 likesI mean technically sun is a star xD
2 likesI sorta believe Lauren Faust ( Celestia released nightmare moon) because the sun IS a star so she could control the stars
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Celestia can only control the sun and that's it.
0 likesI forgot the name but it was the person who banished grogar to the stars I think that is the person :)
0 likesHere’s a question where were the other creatures of equestria like the hippogriff they were living with the other pony’s at the end
0 likesSunny's dad have the grogare bell it might be a good start for a theory it's up to u
1 likeCan you do a video about what would have happened if Fluttershy became an Alicorn instead of Twilight Sparkle since she wants to be friends with any creature big or small unlike Twilight who cares about books and is neglecting Spike's feelings?
0 likesLove the video and long time fan but why so short excited for the new vid but it would be amazing if u did a video why some pony families have last names and some don’t like maud pie and pinkie pie but rarity and sweetie bell don’t
0 likesI see it as the signs she saw were twiggy and her friends
0 likesShe might have but, I still think that it just was the spell.
0 likesIdk if Sawtooth Waves will actually consider this comment and and upload about it, but I wanna know what he'd think about the Feeling Pinkie Keen episode....If "twitchy tail" means falling objects, what I wanna know is....does the human pinkie in EG also have Pinkie sense? If so, how does it work for her?? She doesn't have the tail for twitchy tail, she can't do the ear flop combos.... And they never had "pony ups" until after sunset brought magic to the world
0 likesSo what happened to Discord in the new movies???
0 likesHe is a creature that is pure chaos
He can do whatever he wants he could just snap his claws and poof all the crystals are in sunny’s hoofs assuming he hasn’t gone rogue again, I doubt he would go all villain again because of fluttershy changing him and allowing him to see the value of friendship and love
Maybe once Fluttershy has passed 😭 he could have gone evil again but I doubt it
Love and friendship last a while especially with how much Discord cared for fluttershy and vice versa
I have a few theories of my own but honestly I have little clue of what actually happened:
Either after all of his friends passings he said: Maan heck this i’m outta here
He created a few clones of himself and went his own dandy way never looking back.. but thats a boring answer
So maybe he died? Its not likely since he’s immortal and only by being normal he disappears which could have happened but like little chance this theory is a lot more confusing.
My theory for now is that:
Discord and fluttershy got married and they lived a long happy life however fluttershy is not immortal and eventually she had to go
With her friends around her discord wanted fluttershy to have a safe passing to the afterlife and so he guided her to it
(btw I’m almost crying by the idea of fluttershy dying) thats when discord felt true harmony and he decided to leave his body and continue on like he did in the episode where Starlight was the headmare. He didnt die he just astral projected himself to the afterlife together with fluttershy
(Its a happier ending then my others so Imma stick with this one) 😭
can you make a theory of how the mane 6 died?
0 likesDid you make a video on why the cutie marks keeps appearing in g5 while there no magic? To me it's a plot whole and the movie don't have a really good writing anyway :/
0 likesSawtooth As I was watching Equestria girls When twilight first visited the human world she was talking to pinkie pie when pinkie said this she asked twilight has she ever visited before and stated that someone that looked just like her with the same dog was seen and who's like that human twilight and this was before magic in canterlot high so what we're the reasons that made human twilight visit canterlot why?
0 likesDo you think will see Grogar in G5 ?!
0 likesI know your thoughts and theories are pretty cool but CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO EG because I have a theorie about it just think wouldn't the EG charters still be alive because it never really ended and I realized that time works slower then equestria you tell in friendship game so I think there not dead
0 likesSawtooth. Have you updated that "truth about alicorns" video you made 2 years ago? I have some information.
0 likesAwesome and cool!
3 likesWhat happened to the other creatures in the future? All we see are ponies.
1 likeCant wait for ur next video! :D
1 likeNah grogar definitely have something to do with it
1 likeWoah.. you make a good point..
3 likesBut wow sawtooth you must really hung up on old chrysalis since she must have been the only changeling that actually cared and liked you. I guess she is the only closet thing you have to family.
0 likes*Realizing the video is 1 minute long*
4 likesSo many great theories and not enough time
0 likesyou think you can make your next video be about sombra's return.
0 likesTotally unrelated from the specific topic... BUT!! I seriously wanna hear ur theory about pinky pie's "just a hunch" on the human and ponyworld. BECAUSEEE I saw a blooper where there's a pinkie from the pony world that came to human world. And the pinkie from human world entering the pony world
2 likesCan we appreciate how they put a lot of effort into there videos for us and they makes the best engineering videos for us and they always makes our day or night even better keep it up
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you sound like those "can we appreciate-" bots that are first on every single YouTuber video.
0 likesand sawtooth doesnt even do engineering videos.
@Jordan Jones [Celestial Waffles] im not a bot! 😐
1 like@BLUE WOLF OF NIGHTFIRE good! i will now resume my life on the internet! have a nice day!
0 likes@Jordan Jones [Celestial Waffles] umm ok ... U have a nice day or night to
0 likeswait couldent the 3 villiens still be around in the new mlp generatoin?
1 likeI really am not sure but if someone make if go to space then it could be celestia
1 likeObviously sun is also a star so there is a chance your theory is correct
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The phrase "the stars will aid in her escape" relates to Twilight's cutie mark, which is one big magenta star and 5 smaller ones; the "stars".
0 likesThese villains just gives me the hee bee gee bees.
0 likesDo you have a second channel....Nerd of the Rings, by chance? Your voice and his are strikingly similar.
0 likesSCREAMMMMMM , YOU USED THE DHMIS CLOCK STRAIGHT AFTER I JUST WATCHED THAT EPISOADE
0 likesSince you did a video about what would happen if Spike was a pony, can you do a video about what would have happened if Spike never existed in MLP FIM show since he is not getting the same kind of attention as Twilight Sparkle and her friends and is made to look pathetic?
0 likesThis video is basically saying celestia is dumbledore
2 likesDude, stop. calm down. You're slowly becoming MatPat
1 likeI have a question what happened to the elements of harmony?
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Nevermind just remembered the elements were destroyed
0 likesAmazing content i like it 👍
1 likeI love the dhmis references
1 likeDid you get a new mic? The audio sounds a little different
0 likesEEEEEEEK CAN'T WAIT!
0 likesI think that I know who released nightmare moon did you see that twilight sparkles element look like a star maybe the tree of harmony used that element
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It's just the symbol for magic in Equestria.
0 likesAnd thorax was afraid of her because he was the only one who saw her of what she really is.
0 likesDo more theories
1 likeThoses evil ponies just gives me the heebeee geebees.
0 likesI do agree with your theory
0 likesInteresting seeing you use a shorter video to be more concise.
0 likesMaybe Princes Cellestia freed nitemare Moon so Lunia cood help repaetedly bruttilly torcher shitlight glimmer toodeath afew years later. lol
1 likeOoo we're going back to this theory
2 likesApart of discord magic must of freed the villian but discord doesn't know
0 likesPlease put my comment in your next video realeted to this I want to say that celestia realised nightmare moon give her a chance to be a good princess and rule equestria together peacefully
0 likesWhen nightmare Moon got unleashed and Celestia she like disappeared and every pony wondered where is she where is the princess ?
1 likeYay! love your vids sm!
0 likesMind blown 💥🧨💣
0 likesI think she released Discord too.
0 likesWhere was Princess Celestia after when Nightmare Moon returned?
0 likesthis video was way shorter than your usual videos
2 likesThis is probably not that relevant, but I like the snowflake and scarf on your oc ^~^
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thank you so much!!!!!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves you're welcome ^~^
0 likesCelestia said I saw the signs of nightmare moon return
0 likesWait look at Twilight cutie mark its the same line up as that one it's to same one just check the moon and the earth and you see that means I like controls the stores and she has a tumor that has also make sense
0 likesI have a theory for ANG:
0 likesSince Hitch can speak to animals, is he a descendant of Fluttershy?
In fact, are most of them descendants of the mane six?? Think about it
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I was gonna add that all the mane 5 were related to the original 6. Thanks for adding to this theory
0 likesAnd Sprout could fit with AJ
0 likesWhat if Celestia freed Nightmare Moon, not as a trial for Twilight, but to simply try to bring her sister back? She might've thought that, as a stronger alicorn, she would be able to un-corrupt her. But, because she lacked the elements of harmony, she failed.
0 likesI thought we already had this debate
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my thoughts have changed since i covered the topic 2 years ago, plus the question is relevant to the topic of my next video
0 likesI think nightmaremoon release her self because she is the only one that can control the night the way that Celestia can not!
0 likesLove your videos
0 likessawtooth wave can you plz have a consistent upload schedule. Ever time I think you upload but you don't have a new video!or it's a music video
0 likesHey I found something who else has a start mark luna have moon mark and slestia have sun mark hmm is starlight glimer controlling the starts I think starlight glimer is controlling it bc look she can travel to time bc of a paper hmm so I think it's starlight glimer make a theory about it
0 likesSo everything was a lie?
0 likesOk so this may be a normal question but Pls make a video of it because when twilight became the new queen of equestria what happened to her canterlot prep friends since she needed to be in equestria every day?
0 likesNice.
0 likesAlso, hope the people controlling my shirts reply soon. Say they arrive but they haven't and they were v v expensive ...
Of course, faut explained that a while ago, its not new
0 likesWait A second how the villains in tartars eat???? Do the Guards bring them food? Also I know there are no toilets, But where do they use the bathroom?! On the Rock floor?
0 likesThis is the quickest vid you have ever made I swear
0 likesXD epic
2 likesCan you make a video on CAN PONY TWILIGHT BECOME MIDNIGH SPARKE
0 likessawtooth! today for our class there will be no teaching! i don’t know the reason how this happened!
0 likesI think you're right
0 likesWow
5 likesPoor larynx she never came to her youngest brother thorax's crowning.
0 likesGreat video
0 likesIf u watch closely in fame and misfortune there will be sign with human rarity crossed but no one knows that their is there human version of them except the main six (also the princess) but how town people knows This?
0 likes0:03 Companies as soon as it turns June 1st
2 likesNice! I still believe your theory on Grogar releasing Nightmare, but I’m sure you’ll come up with something good!
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@Quinn Houk it was after their video on celestia freeing Nightmare I believe
1 like@Quinn Houk of course!
1 like@Quinn Houk sweet!
1 likeIn the middle of the week? This is odd
0 likesShe Probably Want To Train Her
0 likesit just me or stars are little sun and who control the sun
0 likesShe must care about her sister.
0 likesI can't believe I'm here since sawtooth had 1k subs
0 likesWait they dont have a quin !?
1 likeI am not sure if celesta realest night mere moon dut good theories carry on 👍🌕
0 likesWow ❤️❤️🥰🥰
1 likeWhat happened to all the alicorns?
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0 likesIt's Wednesday, I Thought You Only Upload On Friday
2 likesTwilight sparkle cutie mark the moon picture and Twilight sparkle cutie mark see any difference the tiny star Step Up and Windows stores comments they make the same like this coming white white lines in her cutie mark is actually actually she is controlling the stars because she has stall cutie mark and they have both won she controls the stars rating she's a princess celestia The Princess and Prince half wishes controlling the stores guess who else have stores vinati things start with Y with change by which it right she would never do that if she didn't know see that lets you what you said
0 likesWow, early
3 likesWill there still be a video on Friday?
So I think even if chrysalis did reform I doubt thorax would ever want he back or forgive.
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He would because he sees that she wants to atone for what she's done, and a GOOD leader doesn't turn away someone who truly wishes to reform.
0 likes@Reese she never gave friendship a chance.
0 likesNo maybe it is discord but see
0 likesWhen Lauren told who controls the Stars
That means who is a star guess who sun
Sun is a star too that means i is maybe celestial
Discord did even worse than celestia
0 likesI clicked this so fast there's only 2k views
0 likesLMAO THIS IS HIS NEW SHORTEST VID
0 likesNo...
1 likeIt can't be...
I AGREE WITH THIS I LOVE UR VIDEOS UR YTP ARE EPIK AND FRIST THING ON MY PS3
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0 likesIt's bad enough that the mane 6 and spike ruin invade her plans now they are invading her home.
0 likesabout scorpion My Little pony and what happens to to Queen Chrysalis when starlight defeats her and after she makes his clothes at the My Little pony the five the six friends what happens to her after that what do you think happens and and in the movie like what do you think who why were they all like why didn't the map show all those places even before they went there because like wouldn't that map show you the entire world though first I think that's weird and in the future twice hair starts slowing like Alessia and lunas did and starlight she gets the entire School of friendship in the future and gets married to whatever his name is I'm guessing twilight's purple is related to them cuz she has her skin and and he has her hair his hair like it's obvious and who's the very first bad guy in this world who is it hope you can find out
0 likesSawtooth is sad and crying because the other changeling hate him for having a gray coat.
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No, they're not upset by this.
0 likesCelestia was playing Twilight the whole time.... with the help of Pinkie! Think about it. Twilight was sent to Ponyville to oversee the celebration and meet Applejack, Fluttershy, Rarity and Rainbow Dash. Then Pinkie throws a party that puts them all in the right place at the right time. Coincidence?
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Celestia didn't even know Pinkie Pie. Plus, did you forget that Pinkie throws a party for literally ANYONE whose new to Ponyville?
1 like@Reese That's what Celestia wants you to think. Throwing a party for everyone new in Ponyville is Pinkie's cover.
0 likesDo you remember the season 5 finale "The Cutie Re-Mark?" I think that episode was meant to confirm that Nightmare Moon most likely escaped the moon herself. Plus, I think just like how Discord did in the series finale, Celestia's task for Twilight to find the elements of harmony and use them to restore Nightmare Moon back to Luna was meant to give her the experience and understanding on what she needs to do and be in order to become a worthy successor to the throne because Celestia probably wanted to eventually spend more time with Luna as a friend/family member. The only difference between Discord's and Celestia's methods was Discord's was probably more reckless than Celestia's.
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Though Celestia screwed Luna over given how Luna barely ruled.
0 likesyooooo im hyped bro
0 likesme reading the title umm sawtooth we have done this before
0 likesme after watching the vid oh nvm
Is this a reuploaded video?
0 likesHey sawtooth thanks for the video how are you?
3 likesShe was an awful lady who was forcing her children even thorax to do her dirty work.
0 likesWho is sombra's queen??
0 likesDo you agree but I don’tThink in that way She are you sending nightmare moon to the moon because her vision told her
0 likesI mean stars are just far away suns
0 likesSo my head cannon is correct and cannon let's go
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0 likesIs this the only barony-channel who continues to post after the finale?
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No, there's countless other channels that still post MLP things post-finale.
0 likeswhy is princess luna and celestia alive in the human world when humans live around 80 years not over a 1000
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2 likesBut if we talk about flim and flam timeline why didn't princess celestia defeated them she must be stronger and smarter than them!
0 likesI have just discovered something. what if Fluttershy is related to hitch think about it hitch can’t talk to animals but he has a special connection to them. Maybe somewhere around the past there was an earth pony mix up.
0 likesWhy is MLP lore a thing
0 likesNice vid
2 likesQuestion is hich related fluttershy.
0 likesshortest theory vid ever
0 likesShortest video ever 1:07s wow
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1 likeshort theory but I agree
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0 likesThis was your shortest video ever
1 likeBut sombra was even worst.
0 likesye but about the alicorns how about queen ingrid queen galaxia king cosmos? they were born like alicorns
0 likesG5 will be the last generation of mlp.
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No, it won't. Hasbro has no plans on stopping the MLP franchise.
0 likesI think she did free here
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0 likesNo changeling wants chrysalis back she was a bossy and vain mother to thorax.
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You have no proof of this.
0 likesi bet she did she was getting bored😨
0 likesposted on a wednesday at 5pm?????? what the heck
0 likesThis was 9 minutes ago😱💖
0 likesAnd give your new videos a bit quicker I mean you can give your new video once a week
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0 likesThat was short..
1 likeThe sun is a big 🌟 🤩 ⭐ 🌠 💫 ✡ 🌟
0 likesGud question
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2 likesI think Rainbow Dash is very special because in the story there is something sonic Rainboom Rainbooms and when twilight defeated nightmare moon on the episode twilight game into Bonnieville it was a rainbow circling her but then everything was a Rainbo I don’t understand still I an DIEING to know
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0 likesI am coming because you to blame the wrong gay in your 114th video 1. Sanset swap bitvin 2 realitís that craun, 2. Flash Sentry wasnt inaf close to get to portal, 3. Gards are absolut idiots in theyr works. And that is end of my list of defense of that poor guy.
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0 likesidk if your familiar whit Lyra x Bon Bon BUT episode season 9 episode 22 ore 23 ( big mcintosh get married whit suger belle ) and than got to 7:47 and look at the background ;)
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1 likeHi ummm i just wanted to ask you that did you see the comments i send you in the other video yet and i can say did again.
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There are 2 to 3 pony that don't have cutie mark . Can you see it in my community lps?
1 like@Lucidia ಥ‿ಥ Not everyone is going to have a cutie mark.
0 likesShe did not that's it now need for this theory so delete this video now
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They're not deleting a video just because YOU say so.
0 likesI'm an alicorn sawtooth
0 likesAnd then now in 2022
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2 likesHow and why did Princess Celestia free Nightmare Moon? Did she do that just so that Twilight Sparkle and her friends could bring her sister back?
0 likesAnd the other changelings hate chrysalis for having a white coat.
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Again, she's not.
0 likes@Reese sawtooth is lost in the forest.
0 likes#SawtoothWavesSquad
2 likesWhy aren't you at bronies react?
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i have theory
0 likesUhhhh is it a Friday it’s Wednesday right
0 likesI'm so earlyyy yay
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0 likesNope. Oh yea- check out matpat and see if you can spot something that’s similar to your videos. He does fnaf lore even though Scott never attended to there to be any. You do mlp lore and hasbro actually never attended there to be any. Proof is the mlp movie where canterlot has been totally rebuilt, birds are now pirates and can talk, our main 6 let birds do the work, one cat can stand on two legs and talk, and there’s too many creatures that look like they’re in the wrong movie to even name. Wow this world really falls apart if you think about it for at least 1.2 seconds.
0 likesYa cuz sun are stars
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0 likesWhAt that’s all 1 min bruh
0 likesso short
0 likesWhat a minute the video was 1 minute
0 likesIf there a place with out sun sate. Can it be more miss pony in athey worlds like equestria girls are not correct or right
0 likesYou covered this in 2020.
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They remade the video.
0 likes@Reese did thorax and pharynx have an older named larynx and did Celestia and Luna have a younger brother named staro twinklo and did ember have two younger siblings who were twins named flame and fire with fire as a female and flame as a male and with fire older than flame by 29 minutes.
0 likesOff topic but I was recently thing about the ages of Mlp Fim and how season’s 1, 2 & 3 is the golden age the the seasons after equestria Girls is the silver age like in Dc and Marvel comics, What do you thing about this Concept?
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0 likesOmg I'm late-
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0 likesWTF DOES FLURRY HAVE DIFFERENT EYES THAN OTHER BABYS OTHER BABYS HAVE LITERAL DOTS WITH TO LINES ABOVE FOR EYES Y?! AM I THE ONLY ONE WONDERING WHY CUZ NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO NOTICE IT TELL ME THE ANSWER!!!!!! I. NEED. AN. ANSWER. IS IT CUZ SHES SPEACIAL?!, IS IT CUZ IDK THE CREATORS WANTED HER TO BE DIFFERENT PLS TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED IT?!
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That's simple.
0 likesIt's because BUY OUR TOYS got to her.
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Because it's winter?
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1 likeWhere is FLURY HEART at G5?
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Dead. G5 takes place FAR into the future.
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1 likeThe stupid ALICORNS are immortal.
I have question ❓ why stare world is not alicorne
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Starswirl didn't have what it took to be an alicorn.
0 likesI don't think so
0 likesWow I'm early i only get an 1hr not early vid or 1day
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1 likemy sister is Karen ND SHE DOESIN'T LIKE MLP
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So? There's a lot of people who don't like MLP.
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0 likesА перевидите на русский 😡😠
0 likesWhy the thumbnail look like zone ankha
0 likesCan you do a theory video about what would happen if Twilight Sparkle was better off with either Comet_Tail or Stygian cause I think Flash_Sentry is better off with Sunset_Shimmer? Would she have an Alicorn child with one of them?
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She wouldn't have an alicorn child.
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