You know those replies to a comment between two youtubers with related content that make you think 'Oh my God, are you really that surprised they're not there? Well, apples to oranges or something.
Drew Gooden I agree. I’ve been watching this whole video and have gone on other apps to text people a few times but I wanted to come back and watch more of the video.
his way that he structures his points is similar to what of a modern news source like vox what makes it so interesting what makes this a great channel definitely subbing :]
is it typically very hard to keep you engaged for almost an hour? I would think you clicked this video because you were already interested in the content, so kinda easy to get you attention. But emplemon does a tight story with new takeaways in an interesting manner.
2015-2017 was an entertaining but oddly toxic time for YouTube. It was like the entire internet collectively went through it’s edgy, mean, insecure teen phase. Even as someone who was as once subscribed to him for a bit, I’ll always look back on Leafy as an immature nobody with an equally immature fan base that gave him an overinflated ego that he couldn’t keep in check. The kind of content creator who probably never should’ve become popular in the first place. It’s kind of ironic how he took the massive gamble to overhaul his content which resulted in his spike in popularity, but he didn’t take the same risk in his brief return and chose to hide his newer videos under the guise of clickbait drama that made everyone turn on him in the first place.
And while the Content Cop video may not have been the killer of Leafy’s channel, it certainly exposed one fatal flaw with his character: Don’t talk shit if you can’t take a hit.
I would argue that phase started in 2014. 2005-2013 seemed like the Golden Age of YouTube and when you compare the content that came after it, there was a lot more edginess as said. I never paid attention to Leafy during his popularity but did notice the effects he had on the platform.
@Metrowned In those years I used YouTube to watch archived media a lot so I had no idea of what it was like at that time (for original content anyway).
It’s an interesting website with an interesting history to it.
He gained great success. He was far from a nobody and is a multi-millionaire today, my guy. And immature, yes but on the internet. That was his persona online. You just let it get to far up into your head. Haha!
@Parzival That’s definitely true (not to suggest he wouldn’t have declined), and I’d take it the decline would have been more gradual if YouTube didn’t hide the visibility of his channel, correct?
Keemstar is kinda a bad dude. He actively creates hate drama to report on. He thrives on hate, so why wouldn't he actively try to support/create it? Same reason I don't trust mass media sources. They do that too.
@LNMBEATS because many people are conditioned by our news casters thst equate drama to news. They aren't the same thing, and even politics in theory can be talked about without screaming and insults (I know it's definitely impossible online, people refuse to see each others points and simply take the words and use them for a comeback without actually thinking of anything beyond words on a screen). Sadly it's just how things are right now. Maybe one day people will have a lightbulb moment and think before screaming about drama.
to out myself, I was an absolute leafy stan back in the "golden days" of his channel. I was a full out edgy teen actively hating on everyone leafy made a video about. Around the time where the mysterious decline of views occurred, i stopped watching him aswell. For me the content just grew stale over time. The videos were always the same and got boring. I also started reflecting and looking back at the videos from him I once thought were "the greatest and realest videos on youtube" and was almost disgusted by myself. Realizing hes always just picking on people smaller than himself, who cant defend themself. Realizing that its just always the same insults he uses about small things or funny appearances the "victims" most of the time have no real control over. The content cop coming after this realization was just the final nail in the coffin for me, pointing out many more things wrong with these kind of videos. Maybe there was a secret youtube shadowban too, but I can imagine that a lot of leafy fans felt like I did around that time, getting bored of the repetitive edgy content, aswell as "growing up" and realizing that edgy ≠ funny
I stopped watching him when he started only dropping reaction videos hating on peeps but I remember him from his story time videos. Recently found a channel that reposts old leafy videos and I gotta say, the old story time videos where surprisingly really entertaining and pure. It's sad to go through and see how he gradually gave in to his edgy tendencies though
im in the same boat, i started watching him when he had like 80k subs and he was great, the story times were hillarious and the whole "this dude is so real" was very appealing. The whole making fun of ppl was pretty hillarious for a while too until, as you said, it just got stale... I realized he was often punching down and its not really entertaining watching a grown ass probably millionare at this point making fun of like 13 year olds every single day. i miss when he was a small youtuber who just made funny edgy vids and story time, actually i dont think i would enjoy that today but who knows. I was a HSSSS BOI and this is my story lol
i liked him too but i never attacked anyone for it, i just thought he was funny also after the mysterious algorithm change I did watch him much less but i occasionally came back also i rewatched some of the old storytime videos recently and i actually liked them a lot
Honestly, someone like him was never going to survive on YouTube forever. When all you do is punch down, eventually someone is gonna punch down on you.
This is amazing. One of the best movies I've watched on YouTube. I was never really a fan of Leafy's repetitive content, but I did think he was a funny guy. And I did love what he did to YouTube in 2016. It was awesome to see the top YouTubers interacting like they did in the early days of Smosh, Lisa Nova and Daxflame. The 2010-2015 era of YouTube didn't really have YouTube celebrities in this sense. Leafy brought that back and made YouTube what it is today.
Leafy, despite having a Tetra for his pfp, never did a video involving Wind Waker. The shitstorm of that during Nintendo's content creator program would have been beyond comprehension
Found your channel while stuck in an airport all night due to a canceled flight, gotta say you're really helping me through this shit XD Great vids man.
If I’m gonna be honest, I was never interested in the whole situation around him, and since it started blowing up, I just let all of the chaos fly away from my radar, but even then, I still watched this entire video and enjoyed every minute of it because of how well made this was The editing is amazing, the storytelling was great and it was organized perfectly I watched this channel for a long while but this finally got me to subscribe, great work
I used to work at one of those third parties being hired to monitor content, relevance and what not by the algorithms used by big sites...and yeah what EmpLemon says is really fitting to the way those sites operate behind the scenes. Of course most of those employees are under NDAs so it will still take some years for more testimonies to come out.
Others have said it, but you are one of the most captivating people I have ever listened to on youtube, and I've been on youtube a LOT since it first existed. I believe you will continue to have great growth, and at a young age too! Im not much older but as someone trying to grow in the virtual space, you are an inspiration!
@Omnihilo ` There is a dysgenic process going on right now in the Western world, I believe it is being done intentionally. It is plain to see, glad you can see it.
Anyone that was around back then will know it was certainly a more interesting time to be on YouTube. There was a lot of drama among channels and the entire thing felt like an edgy TV series. Ever since then YouTube just feels too stale and too safe. The edge is gone. YouTube may never be this personal and "tight" as it was back then, let alone as edgy and counter-culture. But looking back, we got to experience possibly YouTube's last golden age.
Yeah, I remember Keem tried to help leafy get his login info back after the leaked nudes incident. I don’t think they hate each other’s guts or anything like that, but idk if they’re “friends” friends though? They were extremely close from late 2015-spring 2016. (Or, at least it sure looked that way.) They worked together, traveled together, stood up for each other, etc. I don’t think they’re quite back to that yet. I might be missing something, but Calvin didn’t unlist any of the Keemstar rants - I feel like he should have done this if they were truly back to the way things used to be.
again, leafy doesn't care, is actually impressive that keemstar actually wanted to end the beef and make peace even though he didn't really have to. Yet leafy still is and will always be a prick. Keemstar made himself look like the bigger man while leafy is just the topic of ridicule.
His audience matured and realised how insufficient his content was. Who would go back and rewatch those videos today? I for one can't remember anything worthwhile from them. It was always the dramas surrounding his channel that gave him relevancy.
I went back to watch them and i find the funny, worthwhile entertainment, particularly the ones that came before he really started milking it. Maturing is not becoming pretentious, but realizing that leafy was good all along
Coming from someone who had no idea who he was until this year, and who has since seen a couple clips.
Dude can make a humorous narration, but I wouldn’t call his videos particularly distinct from one another for the most part, and other than pointing out weird parts of this site, and the people who inhabit them, there isn’t a ton that you walk away from those videos with.
His videos have their humorous moments, but it’s not something I would have subscribed to personally.
YouTube was polishing up their image to go more mainstream and ad friendly. It's that simple. Only reason I use this annoying website is because there is no video channel that runs even close to as smoothly.
I remember all of this stuff unfolding before me while I was a mere 7th/8th grader in middle school. A little bit of freshman year as well. Now seeing this all being told as some sort of major historical event is crazy. It feels like I lived through something big while at the time it felt like just some other thing that happened.
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Can confirm: leafys content just got stale. I watched nearly every leafy commentary in the beginning but around 2016/2017 it just got boring. Always the same pattern, just a different disposable antagonist. So I watched less and less videos until I stopped completely and forgot about him. And then years later wondered what happened to him.
tbh this was the first time I heard about the idubbz content cop episode so prob around the time of that video I only watched a select few leafy videos
The things at the content cop stage, leaf should have just taken the L and made jokes about his chin and embraced the meme. It would have then reverted the attack showing he can take it and dish it out but instead he could only dish it out.
I was listening to this while making breakfast and my mom suddenly got dead invested in your story. She was really sad when Leafy started to make fun of kids.
Well him coming back and gaining a shit ton of subscribers, kinda proves that he was supressed by YouTube. Because his videos were not deliberately demonetized.
@Cas Cas well if you search it up know you won't find anything because he got banned from YouTube (not too long after this video), but before that he kinda returned before YouTube Thanos snapped him off their website (for some very dumb reason)
Had never heard of Leafy until this video popped up in my recommended sidebar.
Sounds like an unorthodox channel, and though this obviously wasn’t the title of the video, I suppose it could be argued that there’ll never ever be a YouTuber quite like Leafy again due to the trajectory of the site and the cloth of successful commentary channels that Lemon alluded to.
Also, I gotta say, that’s a very cool profile picture on his part.
@oLogical YT why tho, he was abrasive, which was his niche. All he really did was use pokimane as clickbait for 10 videos but the content of the videos was 90% stocks.
His tweets were probably the worst things he did in his return (he tweeted out asking if anyone wanted to get dicked down like what lmao) but overall he was just pretty edgy. Nowhere near the same levels as say Jay Station or other controversial channels like that.
To be fair, Leafy did continuously violate YT’s policies so it was mainly his own doing. That’s like breaking the law many times and then get thrown in prison and you complaining that you shouldn’t have been punished and that the law is just unfair. Law is law!
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Eric TheBro2022-04-28 13:38:36 (edited 2022-04-28 13:39:30 )
Leafy's story is a a tragedy in the sense that the protagonist falls from grace, doomed to an existence of lurking in the shadows while his former comrades like Pyro went on the path to glory; but also it was also an epic victory as justice was served to someone who thrived off of hate leeched off of drama. And in the end, It was his weird chin that did him in. This story is just so poetic
I remember that at one point I loved returning home and watching his content. It took me like 4 months to realise how repetitive his content got. He was quite the beast and now he serves as a fascinating study.
I remember watching his videos aswell as idubbbz's videos, thinking they were the 'good guys' and thinking keemstar and h3h3 were the 'bad guys', but after a while I just started watching leafy less and less because he became less interesting, and then idubbbz made his content cop, after which I completely stopped watching leafy videos.
Hoovy Tube He was actually really good when he used to tell stories and stuff but then he switched to reaction vids because well, theres only so muxh stories of your life you can tell when you're 18 i guess.
tony speedo Leafy had good videos because of the material he was working with. What set his channel apart from someone like h3h3 was the fact that he DIDNT just punch up. Look at what happened to h3 because he is afraid of offending someone, his channel almost never has those kinds of videos anymore, especially after the lawsuit. With leafy though, he was willing to use the obscure strange videos that nobody would have seen otherwise. His fame is actually what killed him, when he barely had any subscribers, it was just funny to watch how he would react so sarcastically to the extremely strange people on the hidden corners of youtube, but with so many people following him, he just couldnt do that anymore without causing that persons life to get destroyed from harassment. That wasn't his fault. Because of that, and because he wouldnt give up the daily uploads, he was pushed into using a repetitive and cookie cutter style of video that got extremely unfunny and old fast, and he wasnt making videos on unique topics or channels anymore, he was commenting on channels that had already been trashed on millions of times.
His content was entertaining, and he was a charismatic guy, but only to an extent. he could grab your attention and hold it, and how he phrased certain things could convince you that he was right and others were ridiculous, and I think that's a big part of why he got so big.
but ultimately, I think how he made his content followed the classic bullying formula: Search for a victim smaller (physical/social status) than you, preferably someone that is already seen non-positively. add to this situation not by helping, but by drawing attention to yourself and how you are great for keeping them down. then watch as the machine begins rolling and the person defending themselves is seen as weakness and no matter what (short of attacking you, the instigator), only makes the hole deeper.
in the end, it was the victims of his behavior crashing down on him that brought his fall. all these creators and people he exploited and bullied piled up and finally broke his neck.
I remember watching his videos a LOT back in 2016 and 2015. They always seemed funny to me. But once 2017 came around, I didn't find his videos nearly as funny as I used to.
I always feel this is an overlooked "reasoning" on the behalf of his downfall---his fans just got tired of him. I remember going on reddit where the same was being discussed, a lot of the responses were echoed of what is being said here: people didn't find him funny anymore, his videos became repetitive, people outgrew his sense of humor, etc. etc. Dunno if I'd say that's the exact reasoning but it was one of the driving factors. Personally, I feel if he tried stepping outside the box every now & then, he might still be around today. Who knows.
@Dor Bacal - I never cared about the Content Cop stuff. It definitely wasn't what made me tune out from Leafy at all. I'm not that arsed about iDubbz at all, TBF. To me he's just another opportunist who thinks he's edgy and clever, just like all these other content creators. They're a dime a dozen on youtube. No, what made me leave Leafy behind was the non-stop recycling of the same theme every single day for months and months with almost exactly the same running commentary format. It was exhausting. Towards the end I was internally screaming, "Dude, do something new. Anything. Please."
I always watched his and pyro's videos when I got home. I remember 2015-2016 very well. The amount of drama that happend then will never happen again. Today's drama can't compare to the killer gnome or the hissy reptilian.
Can someone tell me what the actual appeal of leafy's videos is? The only sentence in this 51 minutes about that was the existence of "edgy" people,but ehen I try to watch one of his videos it's just obnoxious bs, what's the appeal?
This aged like fine wine. Tastes great at the beginning but after a little while you want to wait for a long time. Then that long times comes and its perfect
It was very intriguing coming back to this time on the internet that I had almost forgotten, and even more interesting to see where all these once kings of youtube are now. With Keemstar recently retiring, it seems the only youtubers left from this edgy era are h3h3, who runs a podcast, and Pyrocynical, who makes actual quality long form reviews of niche games and tv shows that are pretty good. Still wild just to see how much the environment in youtube had shifted in the past 5 years...
this is something that I've been saying for a while now. I've been using youtube sense its initiate launch. This platform's algorithm has slowly become not about what you want to watch but what youtube wants you to watch. I miss the golden days of youtube.
I love video essays. This is a trend I can get behind. Getting educated about things, be it useless internet and e-celebrity trivia or other more useful topics such as history and science. Nothing like sitting down to watch some amateur but very well put together documentaries
The combination of All Caps, a cartoon of Saint Patrick, and colored footage of snakes to lead into the reptilian section was just one of the unexpected moments of brilliance in this documentary about a youtuber. Very well done as always.
It's kind of funny how you can track the "eras" of YouTube based on the average age of the userbase. The bulk of users in 2012-13 were 12 and 13 year olds, so Minecraft content made sense. Then those kids grow up a bit, hit their edgy phase when they're 14-15, and thus edgy content becomes the hip thing in 2015. Now we're all in our early 20s, and vtubers are running the site which can only mean one thing; we've all hit our anime phase that everyone hits in college
For me personally, as someone who watched all of this unfold in real time as it was happening 2 years ago, this is great to see. These events are truly historic for internet culture, and Leafy's rise and fall serve as the perfect cautionary tale, to me, of how to grow a You Tube channel, and how to destroy it. Sad really, as even though I am not a fan of his content like I was as an edge lord 14 year old, I still think back fondly on those times, when YouTube drama was more entertaining and brutal, the commentary community was a force to be reckoned with, and Leafy reigned king. Twas a different time, and now seeing Pyrocynical slowly move away from commentary and NFKRZ try to resuscitate his dying channel is sad for me, but I guess in the end, this is how things were meant to pan out. Once again, great video, can't wait for more, and keep up the good work.
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no longer using2018-06-20 19:35:26 (edited 2018-06-20 21:36:40 )
Turkey Tom yeah I was a long subscriber of leafy drama alert every channel listed in this and saw it all unfold interesting to have seen this history as it happened I've seen the rise and the chaos and the fall of leafy interesting now I never witch hunted anyone like most in that fan base just enjoyed the videos of all of them interesting to look back on all that now saw keemstar idubbz leafy all them very chaotic time period with the drama and such
Perhaps that's all Leafy existed to be, a stepping stone for other Youtubers to use in order to achieve greater heights and even greater fame. It also really goes to show what it takes to survive as a relevant Youtuber on this site. It's either kill or be killed, come out on top as the apex predator or get eaten by a stronger and more dominant carnivore.
One of the most interesting periods of the internet, for sure. Early 2016 - Mid 2018 YouTube definetly helped shape some of my personality and sense of humor; probably more so than most since I was still in elementary school and was extremely impressionable. I remember watching Leafy pretty often and laughing at his funny curse words while play Roblox or Minecraft or something; same story for H3H3, Grade, and Pyro. While I can't say it was a great influence, I'm glad to have grown up around this area of the internet.
Yeah and if he eventually became part of the Dream smp stuff. Despite my disdain for Dream I could see that parallel universe Leafy fitting in with the group.
I never liked Leafy's content and never will. And even as a slighly edgy teen myself back then, I think that his content was aimed at the worst kind of edgy "dank" children from that era. This documentary is fire and really well done! EmpLemon never disappoints.
Pretty interesting video talking about Leafyishere. Thanks for the insight of this guy that i haven't seen for a while. I was pretty young and dumb to believe that he was a good person or maybe he was just giving what his viewers wanted to watch. Idk just a theory of mine.
I feel that this theory emp had is also a larger narrative YouTube slowly changing rules over time. But I wonder if team YouTube will ever go against the makeup community because of drama surrounding it.
@Julian Straubel no reason? He made more than 9 vids targeting pokemaine. I honestly don’t care about bullying online or whatever but there was definently a reason
@Zak those videos eventually turned into just clickbaiting poki, only to give people life advice. i see people clickbait all the time and then talk about something completely unrelated all the time yet never get banned, ofc there were other reasons why and i agree with them considering leafy is a pretty bad person, but he shouldn't have been banned for the pokimaine stuff. in my last comment talking about why he got banned because i was a fan of leafy and wanted him to be on the right side, now that im not a fan i can see the wrong things he did. i still think he should've gotten warnings and even if he got all 3 strikes it shouldn't have been a perm ban. but ye i see where he was in the wrong.
@Julian Straubel I mean I'm just saying what I heard. Obviously, I wasn't gonna watch 9 vids that look the same and I was never a fan to begin with (I didn't find just straight-up bashing random ppl funny).
@Julian Straubel Leafy came back because he was harassing people and targeting Pokimane with a lot of that harassment in an age where it no longer flew like it did. He was also not exactly on good graces with YouTube considering that all he did was bully people and let his mob fester on other peoples channels. He was banned for a reason. This narrative is bizarre.
@Somers you're equating it to that. I think you're trying to hard. Community guideline strikes do exist. For youtube to not use their own strike system is definitely a form of unjust behavior. And with the goal post of what really constitutes bullying, a strict and up to date guideline strike system is imperative.
@papameatball No, your statement is actually. "Justice is subjective" permits what I just said. You made a lazy, broad stroke and it's silly.
Community strikes aren't the be all end all and it was clear that, considering Leafy had a history, that his behavior was going to continue. Strikes were a formality because every video where he was harassing people was viable for a strike and feigning ignorance here is a bad look.
@papameatball Also, if you view justice as subjective, then this was just as proper of a move as using the strike system. You killed your own argument.
@Fries No. I dont know if youve noticed, but the youtube rules have changed considerably since hes gone. Everything he relied on is against the rules now. His only way to comeback is to just stream or make react content.
Man I miss these big YouTube events. It was such an exciting time when everyone could turn on anyone at any point and then outta nowhere, idubbbz would come in and fuckin destroy someone. I loved it.
I admire the hell out of Leafy. I get how hated he's been, for so many years. But i wouldn't view him as insecure. I'd view him as cunning, and as youtube's biggest cutthroat.
I always liked your music choice in the background of your videos and then I heard All Caps and it made me immensely happy. Also I just wanted to say that im glad you transitioned away from YT poops and I hope you enjoy the style of videos that you make now. Have a great day!
This is an incredible amount of study and effort, more than most of whom would give up before even thinking if they could do that much, on the side of fear though, This effort in compiling all of the evidence of YouTube's interventions and methods into a fashion that is well organised and incredibly digestible to even audiences who effectively lurk entirely on the recommended page and altogether know very little about youtube as a whole are of course very dangerous to youtube's narrative, which begs the contingency:
While you're being sandbagged, you're still popular to a point, you have influence, especially outside of youtube, making you a bit of a target in itself, while youtube is already utilizing the existing methods, I can't help but feel they're eventually going to bring out the umbrella gun sooner or later, with what I know of you, you already have the work you uploaded stored somewhere else too, but what then? Youtube pokes your your channel with the ricin pellet, what are your options, where do you go? That shit's scary.
On the leafy topic though: When I was watching back in leafy's heyday, the recommendations would be literally flooded, as in several leafy videos in them. One day it all stopped, just like that, bam.
I think the special thing about Leafy is that at the time, the wider community wanted him dead. If you had told anyone "youtube is killing him!" they'd likely answer with "and good riddance"
I think if any YouTuber would have a chance of maintaining a fanbase outside of YouTube, it would be EmpLemon because of how unique and how much quality he puts into his videos. He seems like the kind of channel that many people would go looking for if he disappeared, ya know?
Emplemon is definitely above the rest, too bad YouTube doesn't see it that way. Everyone of these comments hits the nail on the head. Well organized, easy to watch and follow along. As well as very entertaining to watch again, something I can hardly say about many other youtubers. Best of luck to you Emplemon you crazy downward spiral bastard XD
Never even heard of Leafy before watching this video just now, and I have always watched videos about games. So at least in my case I believe he definitely was shut out of ever showing up.
I'm gonna be honest here I don't know how it happened, but in mid-2016, when Leafy was booming, I met him on Twitter, and we talked a bit. We never really talked a huge amount, mostly because I didn't know anything about him and barely used Twitter. I still barely use it. But I later went back and found that it was, in fact, Leafy's actual Twitter account, and I'll be honest, he seemed like a chill guy. Everyone at the time saw him as the "edgy ranter type" (not sure if that's the right word for that) but I mean, in the Twitter DMs I had with him, he seemed like a pretty nice guy. I suppose it could've been a facade, but it seemed rather genuine. Heck, I even met the guy on ROBLOX. Yes, I met Leafy on a Roblox game, and he started talking to me in the chat, and eventually we ended up on Twitter somehow. Theres no way to look back at Roblox chats, and I haven't been on the Twitter account that I DMed him on in years, but I never deleted the messages or closed them, so provided I can log into it again I can find those DMs. But... yeah, he seemed chill honestly, like a normal dude.
This has got to be one of the best and if not most well researched videos on the site. This was such a nostalgic trip for me because this marks the time where I used YouTube the most. I subscribed to leafy when he had around 30-40k subscribers and was familiar with DramaAlert and Grade and Idubbbz through other means (Minnesota Burns, Jinx Content Cop, etc.) so I got to watch all of these events through all of these years unfold through my eyes from everyone's perspectives, and to be honest, this is the best and most accurate retelling of the story I've ever seen anyone even attempt (trust me, I've thought of tackling this beast of a topic before as well lol). Props aside, I also think your theory on Leafy being the first demonetized channel is pretty interesting, and plausible, but it also brings up the question that if this truly were the case, without Leafy, would demonetization and the strict regulations on YouTube today even exist? I believe that Leafy existed as a catalyst for every major change to the site since 2015-16, as well as the many personalities who would gain massive subscriber counts as he fell. I think you missed a good opportunity to bring up Pyrocynical in this though, because he's like the "Good Future" version of Leafy in a multiple endings video game. He was almost identical to Leafy at the time in terms of content, and even fanbase, yet he didn't make all the same mistakes that Leafy did, for lack of a bigger subcount and a bigger ego, thus with minor tweaks to his content after Leafys decline, his channel thrived. All of the possibilities you talked about in the end exist in Pyro so it's really interesting to actually see what Leafy could've been, but then again, without his downfall, people like Pyro's success, or others who adapted the genre wouldn't have even been possible. Longass comment aside, tl:dr, I really loved this video, was really nostalgic and accurate, Leafy represented what would happen if a common channel got big overnight and was ultimately one of the most influential villains the site ever had. Kthanks bye nerdout over :)
agreed on most of it, though I thought the theory on Leafy being the catalyst all the addpocalipse was common knowledge. Still is interesting to see how one person is kind of responsible if not the original patient of demonetization and the hole mess that came out of it.
Tallest Flash Comments Also, remember that one time where like, there's like a commentary family that Leafy's fans made? Leafy was the dad, Pyro was mom, and LtCorbis was the daughter? Good times, man.
8:40 yoooo this just triggered a memory in my brain that I hadn't thought of for AGES. That's the first video of Leafy's that I watched and what got me into him! I remember I was hating on Google+ and I guess this must've showed up in my recommend because of that, and I watched it, and was instantly obsessed.
There's nothing like a mutual hate on a subject to get you to like somebody.
Being on YouTube is like being in a land and discovering history about the rise and fall of great kingdoms and Gods while sometimes discovering nice small towns still being build and then suddenly they are a city.
Yes, yes it's true. A channel doesn't need to die for the iDubbbz videos to have fulfilled their purpose. The man is a serial killer. Great video though.
Meanwhile, Gokanaru is the SCP-973 of Content Cops, Pyrocynical is the cop that always eats donuts in the cop car, and Kavos is the guy that always talks big but when there's an actual shootout he just takes cover the whole time.
I don’t think you’ll ever see this but you are 100% right. They “shadow banned” Pewdiepie, the most subscribed YouTuber. Would be interesting to see how this initial idea put onto Leafy turned into this monster that can do the same thing to pewdiepie.
@Caleb Mayfield It's a joke. The subject of the joke being Leafy's YouTube assassination. The target of the joke being the shameless violence carried out due to systematic racism.
@Mercury It's a shame, because while I don't like leafy, and he was never really my cup of tea, banning him without real reasons sets an awful precedent for how they treat content-creation-rule-abiding channels.
@Cas Cas He basically just disappeared from the platform entirely one day, without a trace left. No goodbye video, no channel update, just there one day and gone the next.
@Mr Maticus well I mean do we really need reasons to find out why someone doesn't like one of the most unlikable gremlins to exist? There wasn't anything worthwhile I ever saw on the guy, which is why I'm just now finding out he finally got banned.
@yeetimus46 ias playing this roblox rip off of some other stealth game and one of the guys detected me trough a wall, so i just said fuck it and gave up on the stealth mission
I think we’ve reached a point where we can scrub the terms “toxic” and “problematic” from the front page of the English language…any sort of behavior that someone might consider less than honorable has been “toxic” or “problematic” for the last 5 years. It’s enough already…there are a billion other descriptors in the English language…any of which is less annoying at this point…
this is one of the best videos ever, well researched, well scripted, well edited, i've watched all of your commentary videos and this is your best. have you noticed that gameplay reaction commentaries are being popularized again? all the old commentators that were friends with leafy like nfkrz and pyrocynical went in different directions and leafy just rotted, the leaf went orange/red just like his sub count...
RabbidTheNabbit That's because they took the more joky approach while Leafy took the attack approach. But Nfkrz is still bit more attacking then pyro and memeulous that might be why every vudeo of nfkrz gets demonitized like in the first 1pmin he uploads.
I just find it funny how back then Idubbz was respected and Leafy was mocked Now it ended up being the reverse Funny how we can never truly predict how history will go nor predict what the future will hold
I already knew the vast majority of this, but something about the way this is presented made me stay from start to finish, it felt so fresh! Seriously, this might be the only video on YouTube over 20 min that I’ve sat all the way through. Keep these coming!
Thats the thing behind the meme I already knew was a degenerate and the video didn't interest me much. This was much more captivating as I witnessed parts of Leafy's existence first hand and didnt only hear about how bad he was.
Your analysis breaking down the difficulties of growing a YouTube channel reminds me of The Rad Brad's growth. I was one of his first subs and it was really sobering seeing how long it took for him to reach those numbers he has.
I feel the best decision Leafy could have made was to roll with the punches. He could have split his videos into two distinct elements—the mockery of others, and the mockery of himself. If he had adopted a meta self-aware and self-deprecating style of humor, he might have lasted longer or at least not been taken down as quickly. If he had proceeded to occasionally make fun of his own chin or content, he could essentially bypass any mockery coming his way.
A funny idea would be if during his next upload after the Content Cop, he acted completely normal and produced the same normal content he usually would, but wore a paper bag over his face with eyeholes cut out and non-chalantly didn’t acknowledge it. Then later he could popularize a “everything’s fine” sort of meme in which he pretends not to be ashamed of his chin.
i wasn't a leafy fan at the time but heard of their existence since, this video is very informative i actually love how u make these analysis videos and the best part is that i got this one in my recommendations just 30 minutes after clicking the video on ur channel
now i see that youtube indeed were hunting leafy, also i get where the reptilian meme came from and especially the story behinds that animation mrblackdarkness
I remember being subscribed to leafy around 20k and liking his commentary vids when I was just a kid in highschool and when he got popular the quality of his content just tanked.
it hurt to unsub from a channel I saw grow from 20k to 200k, but his content just got too obnoxious, even for an edgy highschooler
Chapter I - LeafyisBorn 1:58 Chapter II - LeafyIsNew 3:33 Chapter III - LeafyIsCrafty 6:09 Chapter IV - LeafyIsRising 10:25 Chapter V - LeafyIsHere 16:34 Chapter VI - LeafyIsCracking 19:54 Chapter VII - LeafyIsBlazing 26:46 Chapter VIII - LeafyIsWounded 28:47 Chapter IX - LeafyIsFalling 31:22 Chapter X - LeafyIsBlackballed 34:03 Chapter XI - LeafyIsGone 45:06 Chapter XII - LeafyIsBack Chapter XIII - LeafyIsTerminated
You didn’t see the dark side of Leafy for the first time with that rant, he was known for being toxic and extremely rage-y in the MCPvP community. This showed through in his video style more than anything else. Honestly his rant videos were calm in comparison. He also wasn’t that good and would only show himself fighting noobs in his vids lol.
What iDubbs ("Content Cop") did to leafy was so perfect. It was the most epic, public, and well-deserved bitch-slap in the history of YouTube. It was fucking art.
@YouAreProbablyAutistic I did rewatch it just before posting that comment. I loved it. iDubbs subjected leafy to the exact same kind of shitty treatment that leafy had subjected others to. And he did it in such an exaggerated obvious way that you couldn't help but see the irony. His message was basically "so I heard you like bullying..."
It was great because it showed exactly what was wrong with leafy's videos. He was attacking leafy and simultaneously demonstrating why leafy deserved it. I stand by my opinion that it was pure genius.
It’s notable to me that when Leafy came back they silenced him in a much more harmful way, as well as how people like Idubbbz and Ethan have become hypocrites themselves. Nobody is safe on the internet.
How rich it is to see h3h3 call other bullies years later. Times have really changes. H3h3 is the most toxic person on the internet now, leafy was only in his way to the top of it all.
I rode the entire train, lurking in the beginning and spamming the dislikes once he had started falling and found other content, what a good documentary on the one the only Leafy
His channel was damaged so badly, that when Leafy came back, he fell merely months later repeating the same mistake of falling too deep into drama. It's like sailing the same route as the Titanic, but in an alternate timeline where climate change created even more icebergs instead of melting them.
Becuause of LeafyIsHere, I almost drowned into the dark side, I almost had the purpose to hate and completely forgot about my true purpose. I'm glad I just became a better person over time, now I'm going to achieve my future career (not YouTube). I already began a long time ago, and waiting for the result. Maybe I could become popular on YouTube someday, even if I wouldn't care about attention and views.
EDIT: The reason why I once had the purpose to rise on YouTube and then abandoned it is because not only being "overrun" is too much for me, but also because it's far from what I enjoy. Everyone has a unique purpose and source of joy. I could upload scientific videos on YouTube, but I don't care about number of views and subscribers, even if ONLY ONE of my videos become the most viewed.
Holy shit I did not realise leafy is older than me, albeit only eight days. I remember when I first found him thinking this kid is funny, and I had stopped watching him by the time content cop happened so I'm fully onboard with the conspiracy.
I love Emp's dedication to consistently quality content. It's great that this video is so long, yet so consistently well written and editited. I get the sense that Emp really cares about what he does. Keep up the good work.
I think content cop didn't kill him, but it definitely helped. He started loosing subs in the greatest amount soon after content cop , then it mellowed to just under 0, so I think it it encouraged lots of unsubscribing for a bit, and youtube stopped growth
Man I miss leafy and his non existent chin. It's hard to think his channels been gone for like 4 years now. His fan base did suckass tho. Also YouTube did kill him they love cencorship, they killed Alex Jones along with Twitter and if you have less than favorable videos they won't show up on people's home pages even if they're subbed with the bell dinged.
Not to sound too much like an English teacher, but you displayed some impressive critical thinking and thorough research in this video, not to mention successfully creating a well made visual aesthetic (a.k.a. nice editing, man). Excellent Job! Definitely one of the better video essays I've seen in recent years.
Honestly, I've always thought Leafy's "Commentary over Gameplay" videos echoed 2007-2010 era call of duty videos where it was one unedited match with commentary just talking about life and stuff. Jschlatt's WeeklySlap is an exact match to this style while Leafy mostly moved to a new commentary style to rant/bully whoever every week
can't believe that i actually agree with ethan. this seems to be a pattern with commentary that attacks others "satirically".
of course you cant control your fans, but the very least you could do is apologize to the person you hurt indirectly and tell your fans to stop bullying. It wont stop all the bullying, but at least advocate against cyberbulling and harassment.
these commentary youtubers cant just avoid their responsibility. Its not just the wierd mass comments, there are so many people who literally harass these victims. doxx them, tell them to kill themselves, body shame them, etc.
If they really are sorry, they woul at least apologize to the youtubers they hurt.
@Lovelace ψ Did you not just speak your mind in this comment here? Cyberbullying is against the YouTube rules, if that's what you consider being no longer a viable platform for discussion then I hope you stay away from the vulnerable online, as it seems your idea of discussion is the harmful type that makes YouTube unsafe. People haven't "become" anything. It's just that the sensitive and marginalized are finally starting to obtain a voice now that places like YouTube are fighting against oppression. You are the one who is having a meltdown and failing to hold opposing thoughts in their head. By not understanding WHY leafy is banned and WHY what he was doing is banworthy, you yourself are guilty of what you accuse us of. I honestly don't get why you don't understand this because you yourself accuse ppl who are offended by Leafy as being unable to hold opposing thoughts in our brains, but it's clear you yourself are unable to hold two points of view in your mind at once, and are incapable of including a mind that wishes online platforms allow for safety from bullying. BTW none of this matters because Leafy broke YouTube terms of service for years, went away, and came back while continuing to break said TOS. It's no surprise he's banned.
@refresh I understand that, I see it as a need for balance. Believe it or not people saw Leafy as a role model. I'm all for not making yourself the easy target I think that's an important lesson, and taking some ridicule can be an effective way of learning it. I just think sometimes things go too far and I also like to see the authority or a professional step in when necessary (like removing bad behaving accounts from some internet spaces)
@Danzel Glovington In this case however the bully is the corporate overlords.
I could agree with you if the ban was for 1 week but permaban from a plattform who wants to be a plattform, not a publisher and be seen as somewhat safe... that is unbalanced and outright totalitarian.
I feel your point of view has validity, but I cannot reason why you'd let those totalitarian corporations or parties make you believe they are on your side when they use these totally unbalanced meassures.
They basically say what he did is not only wrong but that they will treat it as unforgivable and also specifically worse than anyone who wasn't banned. Good luck explaining that away and to be honest it would be bad luck if you could explain it because some things aren't to be explained-away but rather looked into the eye and resisted.
That is the "sane" left or the "heroic" and "good" left that is missing these days.
Someone willing to stand up for those disadvantaged by the system and letting their actions and way of standing up make it obvious to all that it's a good thing to stand up the way they do.
Not just random protest because it's trendy and some corporate and party overlords deem it so.
Again, I think balance is important but rebalancing should be balanced, transparent and not partisan.
@Danzel Glovington oh and thanks for your understanding reply. Our views might differ but we can discuss it in a civil manner - on the YouTube comments section, lol
@refresh np, I'm still firm that Leafys ban is a positive thing but you've provided a lot of nuance, of course I have no intention of sucking up to google or YouTube as a corporation, that doesn't mean I can't praise certain decisions as progress, even in small increments. It is good to read the replies, I dont think there's a need for every comment to try and change someone's mind, just offer a perspective.
@Danzel Glovington Bans and censorship can never be positive. Even if a person is universally despised, allowing them to be censored creates an amazingly "slippery slope" that quickly hurts everyone, like the hysteria we see on the modern surface web. The belief that anything is bad or morally wrong is subjective and giving the power to make those determinations for everyone to an entity will inevitably lead to that entity's subjective opinion being enforced upon those who disagree with its beliefs. Just wait until something comes up that you disagree with Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc about and then tell us it's positive.
@Willy Wonka The 'funny' thing is that if we assume Leafy was the unfortunate beta tester for demonetization, the slippery slope already happened. YouTube went from shadow-banning Leafy (EDIT: And to be clear, Leafy was well within the 'deserved it' territory. Point is, what *followed*.) to an automated system of mass censorship that successfully hurts even the people it's supposed to be trying to protect.
@refresh bullying doesn't capture it, the sum of his behaviour on YouTube nevermind across multiple platforms would give a very solid ground for a criminal harassment charge in Canada where Pokimane lives. See: Canada Criminal Code RSC, 1985, c. C-46
It seems pretty black and white to me why YouTube removed him
@Danzel Glovington YouTube is shit anyways, there’s no “marginalized people gaining rights” it’s just a big corporation tryna be “woke” to not lose money
@Danzel Glovington Youtube is not trying to protect the oppressed, they are trying to make a squeaky clean platform that no brand can be offended by. They actively suppress LGB creators because certain markets (India and the Middle East) don't like these people. They are the same as every platform where brand identity and integrity has become the number one issue. Everyone who parrots the progressive speech rules are just useful idiots for the elite, and already it's backfiring. Pleroma (a decentralized twitter) was created because the ultra left have found themselves being removed from platforms, you can only make so much noise before its you who they will attack.
Free speech means free speech. One man's obscenity is another mans lyric (SCOTUS Judge John Harlan - Cohen Vs California 1971). You may disagree with Leafy and call him a bully, that may even be true, but who is to decide that. What entity are we going to allow to punish someone for speech, especially speech which can be ignored and silenced by the listener by simply turning it off. The only thing that should be the end of your right to speech is when it becomes violence. I say this as someone who stanchly hated Leafy, but as long as he never incited violence and didn't actually defame anyone he can say what he wants.
@Willy Wonka idk man. If I was using anyone’s platform to say, express an attraction to children. Or express a tendency to violence against a group of people.. I wouldn’t blame them for censoring me. It is free speech for me to do. And I don’t disagree that it is important to take that for it’s good and bad. But it’s a private company. Let’s not confuse someone’s rights for a terns of service agreement. This platform is owned by google. It is their say at the end of the day.
I would not want someone to come into my house, talk down to another guest and sit idle while their friends proceed to follow in their footsteps.
I just don’t think I a quite as simple preserving freedom of speech.
I appreciate your forgiveness. You learn to find the truth, not just validate an emotion. Thanks for sharing that truth
It's refreshing to hear a story about "The bad guy" without someone interjecting every few minutes to remind us that he did bad things. You told the story from beginning to end, from perspectives of the victims, the aggressors, the bystanders, virtue signallers, and vigilantes, and did it all without needlessly insulting anyone. YouTube Geographic earns it's status as the platform's most reputable history channel
5:50 Bring me back! I miss the carefree days where I'd get back from school, hop on my laptop, and game it out on some Minecraft or watch some Minecraft YouTube videos. Never again will I have the amount of content to watch on YouTube as I did back then. I could watch anything Minecraft related and be satisfied. I remember a YouTuber I used to watch called PaperBatVG who posted a 10 hour long Minecraft 'Movie' and I watched it all the way through on the first go. Now I spend 15 minutes just scrolling through pages of shit that doesn't interest me at all until I find something that does (like this channel).
Your videos are fantastic. These are some of the only videos I see where no one is saying stuff like “pin me” or “17:41 lol” or “wow so deep” or some idiotic childish one off remark. These comments are long paragraphs, reflecting and more often than not adding to the topic of the video. It is highly impressive that emp has been able to keep his audience, and keep his intelligent audience. If only leafy had been able to do this, we may look at him through a different lens. Not to mention, these videos are incredibly well researched. Emp goes into the deepest corners of the internet to find his evidence, and find his points, and is able to keep the visuals intriguing and active for 51 minutes. I just can’t imagine how much time emp took to create this. And I’m grateful people like emp are willing to take their time to entertain us. I would wholeheartedly take this over National Geographic.
Now here’s an informative program that’s actually entertaining. Unlike what’s been on tv recently, good job once again mah boi. (Also, 42:40 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM!!!)
Matthew Hagerty YouTube is trying to become TV by promoting established news outlets, pushing uts new YouTube TV crap and becoming increasingly corporate.
Back in those days I was being fiercely loyal to Ethoslab and didn't watch anyone else, so I had no idea any of this was even going on. Kind of feel like I missed out.
From 2021, and with daily youtube viewing. I've yet to see any single Leafy related media getting resurfaced by the algorythm like all these obscure videos
Woah. Okay, that was a lot to take in. This was more than a simple recount of events. You dug deep into the impact of Content Cop, and also a potential major conspiracy on Youtube's end. I haven't been this blown away by a video in a while. If this doesn't pick up big-time, I won't know what to think. You definitely deserve it.
Here's the thing about Leafy getting banned. The precedent for "bullying" and "harassment" content on YouTube had already been set months before when the Leafy Conent Cop and Gokanaru's H3 expose were both taken down. When Leafy came back, he was the same insecure cyberbully that he was before he left and he made dozens of personal attack videos on one specific person. At the same time, he was cocky and constantly bragged about what he was getting away with. He never changed despite having the opportunity to change.
You can complain about YouTube terminating his channel all you want, but he was too stupid to realize the content he was making went against every guideline the website had created. He was a toxic bully who deserved what happened to him.
I love how you call him stupid. He didn’t care about getting banned. He was literally asking for it and by making a thread on this, you’re feeding into what he wants.
Nah the dude was always toxic. Even in his Minecraft days he was known for being a scammer who would use his servers to nickel and dime his user base. He was a teenage scammer, then he became a toxic YouTuber. Even if he was disposed of with shady methods he deserved the public humiliation.
I like the use of the titanic metaphor. Similarly, the iceberg is the content cop, while YouTube’s meddling is the incompetence of the crew and everything that went wrong.
Mr. darkness was playing a character and he trolled leafy hard. Leafy bought it hook line and sinker. Also Mr. darkness did make a video lifting the curse from leafy.
Your theory about YouTube burying Leafy surreptitiously seems highly likely to me. The only thing that makes it a bit questionable to me is that Keemstar was also included in the Tower Dog memo. However, it's also likely the Keem would have been better equipped than Leafy to work something out with YouTube behind the scenes.
It is an interesting theory, but we have never seen such a thing happen again. It is more the combination of many factors along with his hubris that was his real downfall. Besides, Leafy's content is not sustainable as his audience inevitably grows up and move on. Drama Alert will be on a similar path as YouTube cracks down on content creators behaving badly which is Keemstar"s bread and butter.
Did Leafy have a big community/following outside of the Youtube platform? Keemstar has about 2.5 million followers on Twitter... Even if he's censored on Youtube, his promoting a new upload on Twitter would seemingly help his views stay at least stable and relevant. Especially since he tags other big creators, getting even more attention.
Leafy posting on social media seems like it would be a yell into the void, reaching only his most dedicated fans.
I also think the reason keemstar got popular again was because scarce disappeared
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TicTacP leafy hated twitter. It was also hacked at some point and never got it back. He was just like fuck it. I see where he's coming from. Twitter is such a worthless time suck. But if you're trying to be a successful YouTube creator these days you gotta be on all the social media
Whang! Scarce was included in the memo and just recently talked about some video tests that he did where any video that he uploaded was instantly demonetised... coincidence?
Look again at keems analytics, his supper peak of subscribers that saved him happened in summer of 2017, what was the main thing he was reporting on in that time, the paul brothers, and what does the youtube algorithm love to promote, well before they fucked up is the the paul brothers, they were the faces of you tube at this time, and by reporting on them keems videos were able to get back into the algorithm and he was saved
If YouTube never implemented demonitization, advertiser guidelines, and never did anything to influence Leafy’s channel specifically, then would his channel still exist right now as it did?
I think one thing that is important to remember about Keemstar during this time is that his channel was constantly under attack by YouTube headquarters in general. My memory may serve me wrong and I'm too deep into finals right now to go down the Keemstar rabbit hole, but I remember him being really big on Twitter and Twitch ant this time, and even then catching flak from Twitch for essentially harassing people. He still kept his audience, and when he eventually came back to YouTube they just - followed. He's always been kind of a gypsy; it just feels like YouTube has bigger fish to fry at this point - and of course a little bit of payout.
This was great but I have to say I disagree with your conclusion. Leafy wasn't THAT blinded by success. If even I, who was a 16 year old edgy teen during his peak, started seeing how wrong it was of him to bully children/people who were clearly mentally ill, then there's no way he didn't see it as a 20 years old. His rants were really funny early on, but they quickly became just straight up personal attacks on people, mocking their appearance or way of speech, and also literally mocking some 10-13 year old children who were trying to make a youtube channel themselves. He knew it was wrong, he was just too self absorbed to ever draw the line. He said himself that he's an asshole, but he knows he is so that makes it ok (?). nope. He might have been too immature to understand the full extent of damage his content did to people, but he is no way a victim. I'm glad he was driven out of youtube and twitter.
Chris Smoove was one of the most popular YouTubers in 2011-2012 and he was doing unrelated commentary over gaming footage, 3-4 years before you say it was unheard of lol
This actually makes me anxious about YouTube. After watching this, it's pretty clear that YT was likely behind Leafy's demise. My question is: will they do it again?
They constantly do it. After Pewdiepie's shift towards not being lovable jump-scare boi anymore even he gets a fraction of his subs as views on each video, never gets on USA trending despite gaining more views faster than countless other content on the trending page and even though I am subscribed I have to dig for his videos in my recommended. They pop up once on my homepage, if I dont watch them immediately, I have to go directly to his channel, search, or to my sub feed to find it.
Lander Chad Pagalanan The Paul brothers kind of killed their own popularity outside of the preteen demographic. Not to mention after the whole suicide forest debacle, I can’t see any of them, ESPECIALLY Logan, appearing on the front page of YouTube for a long time.
Youtube want family friendly content, it's obvious. It won't ever happen again because there's no way a channel like leafy would rise up again ever, especially that fast. They want Jake Paul, KSI, Tan Mongeau. They do not want politically incorrect behaviour, I'm surprised PewDiePie hasn't been blackballed yet
@Lander Pagalanan well, the Paul brothers probably make YT alot kf money, so killing then wknt do much good for them. I mean, in the video, it shows that his videos are pg-teen, even though this js CLEARLY false.
wow.. I just watched through that whole thing and I have to admit, I never thought I would watch a documentary about a youtube nerd for almost an hour and not get bored. The production quality was insane and the effort and research put into it almost makes me question how much effort actual documentary producers put into their own works. Incredible video putting a less common view on a subject that I was also once part of. Thank you, for letting leafy go.
The end of leafy reminds me a bit about how YouTube hard-banned the Yogscast from the front page. Even if they were to peak again, they will never be suggested to new users, and so they've kinda died a bit too.
captain sparkles Reddit videos are actually really cool and chill to watch, he has also been doing them consistently for more then 3 years. Good video so far, just that rubbed me the wrong way I guess.
im on Youtube since 2007 or 2008 and never saw a vide of Leafy ever, ive always heard other Youtber talking abiout him or making small little jokes about him and i never really though about him. i always was like "if hes a channel that is worth to watch than youtube will maybe recommend him" but that never happend. This video was perfect for me because i really had no single clue what is story is or was and to hear the full story from beginning to end was really interesting, Thank you for the Vid :)
06:25 - Reminds me of PewDiePie reading out criticisms about how his content became stale and repetitive only for him to remind everyone how nobody gave a shit when he made 75+ happy wheels videos back to back
HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? I was going to ask..they basically shadow banned him right? He’s acting like this is a conspiracy but YouTube does it all the time. I know this video was awhile ago but still..
The nostalgia hits hard, some of the people that appear here are aither a husk, a misserable shell of what they used to be. Or they are no longer here, or they just faded away... but hey, I REMEMBER WHEN WE ALL HATED KEEMSTAR.
Honestly, I LOVE the use of MFDOOM's songs in your videos, I think this was the best one because of how it portrayed the feeling of the Reptilians situation.
what I can say is that your theory in my case is completely true, in 2016 I was a big fan of those drama channels like leafy, gradeAunderA, scarce and so on and so on because to me it was entertaining to see those mongoloids throwing insults at each other, also, at that same time period in which leafy started to decline I noticed that I haven't been watching as many of his videos because he kinda faded away, I couldn't find him at the home page, recomended list, and EVEN at my subscriptions tab. After leafy faded, so kinda did all of the other channels, some literally poofed out of existence (R.I.P. gradeAunderA, 9 months after his supposed 'comeback' he still didn't upload a video), and others content just got old (In this case scarce, mainly his videos are about celebs roasting eachother back and forth in my view). So I just want to add another thing to the death of leafy, as you said, he didn't change his content after he got roasted and still kept going, and like minecraft, that genre of videos just got stale with age. I know that you probably won't see this comment anyways and that this will be lost to the darkest depths of youtube, but to be honest, I don't have anything better to do :DDDDDD. I've been watching youtube every day for atleas 4 hours since 2008 or 9, and it's weird to see a channel like yours, that is reflecting on the past of youtube, because I can remember myself being there (for instance the whole leafy thing i just wrote about) and I wanted to say thanks for doing the content that you do, it's nice to see that I'm not the only person that's lived through this rollercoaster of a ride we call youtube
I used to animate, none of the videos are up anymore but I put hours into it and one time didn’t sleep for days just practicing trying to improve, I got unmotivated more and more because originally I got a couple views and a small amount of people liked me, it was enough, but then they forgot about me, nobody watched anymore, on an impulse I deleted it all because I felt I was the problem it wasn’t good enough and that I should just quit, I know this is a strange rant for this video but animation isn’t worth the effort, years later I did one speed run in a vr game as an excuse to exercise and I got more views then ever before, sure my legs hurt after but the physical pain was better than the mental pain and sleep deprevation but that time I didn’t have the motivation to keep going, my motivation got kicked to the curb long ago, I used to want to be an animator as a job but with everybody wanting to do so the demand will be pretty low for them, there will be so many options, I’ve accepted that now and I’ve settled for graphic design and I’m now fully studying that, my dreams were kicked to the curb early and I learned it doesn’t matter how passionate you are anymore and I’ll never succeed doing what I love
Good lord. The sheer amount of effort, research, backstory, storytelling, comparison, and hypothesis Put in by EmpLemon is leagues above and beyond anything else anyone is or has made on YouTube. Please keep making YouTube Geographic. It’s something we all need in our YouTube lives
In English class, we're reading Shakespeare, specifically Macbeth, and I feel like it's pretty similar to what happened with Leafy.
Macbeth is about a Scottish warrior who sees a chance to become king and takes it. To do so, he does horrible things, he kills the king to take his place, and after becoming king, even stabs his best friend Banquo in the back simply to maintain his position. In the end, his power corrupts him, and eventually, even his own people turn on him. His downfall ended up being because he let his lust for power get to his head. The English army, a force far greater than his, came to his castle and even still he believed himself to be invincible, until it was far too late.
Leafy saw making commentary videos tearing down people lower than him as an opportunity to be king of Youtube I guess you could say. All the while not realizing he was doing anything wrong. He stabbed his friend Keemstar in the back to maintain his place on top. He kept doing bad things, treading deeper and deeper into dark water, until a force came in and stopped him, call it Content Cop, or Youtube. Leafy rode the wave all the way down, and never really realized his mistake, and looking back it makes you think. Was it really Leafy's fault?
The tale of leafy is a classic Shakespearean tragedy, Leafy started as a good meaning boy, who saw an opportunity, and taking it, he became successful, but not realizing it his once noble actions became negative, and his lust for power took control of him, his hamartia. The crisis happens, Peripeteia aka TommyNC, leafy makes his first error in judgement (making fun of an autistic kid) setting him in an unknowing downward spiral. He continues on his path, not learning from his actions all the way until the catastrophe, in Macbeth's case the raid on his castle, or in leafy's case, the raid on his channel. In the end, both of them perished, but started with good intentions, but they both begin to corrupt, and finally, ride their fading wave until it crashes overtop of them.
But who was Leafy's Lady Macbeth? Was it not she who tempted Macbeth to sin in the first place? Was it not she who destroyed the good man that once was?
King Chungus I’m with you on this. The sub count that continued to rise was as deceiving as Macbeth’s wife. The more subs Leafy got, the more untouchable he felt he was.
Hey just saying, power doesn't corrupt, power reveals. Leafy would have only ever avoided doing evil out of fear. He'd do dirty deeds as long as it was profitable.
@bdjsjshhehehd in the case of his british edgelords some might be studying macbeth now for their gcse's. Now that I thought about it, even though I study macbeth for the GCSE's, it never occurred to me that a comparison between the play and leafy could be drawn.
We needed someone like Leafy tho... so people can see what shit people are putting out here or in life overall, I'll agree attacking kids is easy. But he's not just a cynical dick
It's more of "YouTube brought the gun, loaded it, and Leafy pulled the trigger, then iDubbz took the credit for the kill allowing YouTube to get away with it."
He’s already going through the same situation, I don’t think he does the same sh it as leafy (like making commentary videos on small YouTube’s for everyone to see) but he’s getting a lot of hate for his fanbase and people are trying to deplatform him
I did like some of the new videos. (take this part with a grain of salt) The only problem was he didn't fully change, basically, he taunted H3 with a clip in most of his videos thinking that ha! I can continue doing this but more mature! and for youtube...yeah...the 2020 youtube line was crossed and that killed him, twice. (i might be wrong and missed some things so tell me what I missed)
Interesting video, would like a follow up now that he is gone... Me personally actually really liked Leafy’s content but I was never part of the Toxic community, so I guess I didn’t quite see that part of him. Sure I heard about it, but not much more than that. The question is, is YouTube truly a better place without Leafy? A lot of people have been saying that YouTube is and has been going down hill over the last couple of years, so the question stands, what if the lizard king was still around?
Pretty crazy looking at this video now and seeing channels like Dream pop up and gain tens of millions of subscribers after Minecraft Rebounded. I think of Leafy stuck to Minecraft content, he may still be here today.
As a leafstorian myself, you got everything on point. Perfect, too perfect, consistent editing , mentions of his old channel and deep analysis. I applaud you EmpLemon.
44:35 Honestly despite being one of his fans and subscribed to him long after the Content Cop, no, I hadn’t see any of his videos in my recommended, in fact, I didn’t even know he started uploading again after like two years of inactivity. This is really similar to what happened to Mumkey Jones
Interesting, I was a leafy viewer for years then suddenly he was just gone, or I stopped getting him in my recommended feed and I just said "meh". Now I understand what happened, thanks.
I wonder where he is now. I can imagine people recognizing him in his day job and he'd just curl into a ball.
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Matt Petty2018-06-28 04:24:09 (edited 2018-06-28 04:25:26 )
DammitSinged he doesn't have a day job. He's rich. Hes been in Europe travelling for the past 7 months. I talked to him like 2 months ago. He said he was thinking about making a comeback but he's afraid everyone still hates his guts. I feel bad for him. He's actually a pretty cool dude
Levi Mogford2018-06-28 07:10:57 (edited 2018-06-28 07:12:37 )
He could make a comeback by "trying to reform", and then go back into his old habits... because as much as people threw hate at him, it was just the bandwagon effect. Once he seems to be reformed, people will grow bias for him, and then he can go back to his old ways.
"I'm reformed!" -> YouTube remonitizes his videos -> new viewers come in -> toxicity subtly returns -> remains partially reformed to keep the viewer gates open
(and I don't use "toxicity" in a negative way... toxicity is good for entertainment)
i mean he could quite honestly pull it off, member sam pepper? that nigga is currently streaming with ice poseidon and has an average of 1k viewers on his stream
Pizzerizgud yeah I would probably assume I was lying too. It's not really the kind of thing you'd see someone in the YouTube comments telling the truth about lol. But for what it's worth im not
Pizzerizgud understand I'm not claiming to be besties with the guy. The extent of my interaction with him is strictly through online gaming and that pretty infrequently
Matt Petty He could make a comeback, just look at Keemstar a year or 2 ago. Everyone hated him and his channel was dead at under a million subs. Now he’s almost at 4 million, and is mostly liked.
Antonio Vrdoljak We played csgo every now and then.thsts where I first met him. A couple other games alot less frequently. One of the few things I clearly remember talking to him about way back then was him telling me I should play Minecraft it's the shit. I told him Minecraft is shit lol. But to reiterate we were never like best buds or anything
Satan well not much I can say to that. His vids weren't for everyone. You love him or you hate him
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Matt Petty2018-07-02 00:57:50 (edited 2018-07-02 00:58:40 )
The Meatballcake87 true enough. He never mentioned any youtubers to me keem or otherwise though. he got irritated if you tried to bring up his content while playing. That's probably why he would invite me to play i assume. Im good and I dont give a shit if he was on YouTube
Matt Petty hopefully he does comeback I mean if he's changed and has matured then I don't know maybe YouTube might change from the hell hole it becam, I still remember watching him seeing the rise and fall of his channel when his channel died that brought out the begging of censorship from YouTube I don't know maybe if he did make a comeback that'd show YouTube they can't silence their creators , if his redemption was good enough perhaps he could be the one to lead the charge against the current state of YouTube
Brother Noah I dont feel as if his content was originally negative. His cynical side even though yes it wasnt all sunlight and rainbows I liked that he seemed like he was toying with his prey before his fanbase ripped the subject of video apart, I feel like he got a really shitty wrap
Matt Petty if you’re telling the truth and you happened to still speak to him you should convince him to come back. maybe at least on social media. plenty of us miss him.
I could dig a comeback. Youtube just isn't as interesting without its villain man. It's like a marvel movie with just the heroes. Fucking terrible. Jake paul and Logan paul are the only "villains" we have. One filmed a corpse, oh god loose your mind time, it's not like dead bodies are in movies, tv shows, music videos, books, etc...Totally. And suicide? Can't joke about that, I mean....<Chlorox Bleach.exe file not found.> So yes, a comeback would be nice. Villains are important, and I always like this villain, chin or no.
I know it is strange request , but you can check that's my real name and i am completely honest in my words. I am a writer of 12 books if that brings any value to my words. Do you know how i can contact that boy, since i couldn't even find an email. Leafy. I think i can help him return and be bigger than ever.
@Spaghetti Boy Agreed. I dislike Leafys content. I wish he lost all of that money that made him rich. Money that he never gave to his editors. Money he never gave to anyone but him self. Looking out for #1 as they say.
Pizzerizgud even if he is lying, it is factually true that Leafy has been traveling Europe for the past few months. In one of his newest update vids he mentioned that he was doing that, and basically admitted to having a stupid amount of money to be able to do it.
Pizzerizgud even if he is lying, it is factually true that Leafy has been traveling Europe for the past few months. In one of his newest update vids he mentioned that he was doing that, and basically admitted to having a stupid amount of money to be able to do it.
U need to look into Ethan dude. That egomaniac has complete lost sight of the morals and values that he once made a point of ensuring were a part of his channel. Now he’s just a freaking monster
@Blue Solace probably not gonna be unbanned since its been a month. But yeah according to leafy, YouTube emailed em that their looking into his requests to be unbanned.
i can kind of relate to leafy's decline. when i was in middle school i got huge popularity and respect by making fun of other classmates to the point when i had no one left to mock
I like to think that MrBlackDarkness actually didn't break the curse or do a counterspell or anything just to spite Keemstar for laughing at him. To be fair, the laughing was pretty rude considering the rest of the video was about apologizing for making fun of him.
Lance Anthony but he literally gained 200k subs in 2 videos like a week apart. That’s what he would normally gained in a third of a month, around 10 videos, in 2.
@Dipper Jr he would have won if he didnt have his career blown and would single handedly blown idubz's career but no , what did he do ? he came and said yeah everyone is right idubz sucks, and now he confirmed that he isnt coming back so what was this? A punch of spite still has his youtube chanel inactive and if he didnt say anything about idbuz the situation with idubz would still be the same its not even like he was the fist to "expose" idubz he just followed a trend so tell me how exactly did he won ,the fact that he gained subs doesnt change the fact that he wont come back and idubz basically fucked leafy hard pushing others to hate on him what leafy did as a come back was doing what other youtubers already did with nothing new , he is not different than an idubz fan that came on leafy's chanel and said "no chin lmao"
@Designed i mean i havent watched his content since the video with idubz but even so hes not rly blowing up and he doest have the same influence as he had back than
@Designed kinda forgot about this statement of mine , and i forgot of leafy as well , i assume that he does contet but hes most likely a mere shadow of what he has been , and i shall thanke u for ur sheer will of beering 2 months to come here and say this and u most likely sacrificed ur whole free time just to observe leafys activite and so u can makr this statement
Say what you want, Leafy has several million views per video still so he is doing alright and I still hear about him from my little brother so he must still have some popularity
You could say that about most content on YouTube, but anyways the permaban was unfair and kinda scary because YouTube can just ban whoever they dont like
this video was incredible, i think every content creator should watch this video, it really opened my eyes, since i too had a beginning in minecraft lol I think the one depressing thing about this video is realizing that edgy humor and content really doesn't thrive on YouTube anymore, it sucks that no longer can we push the boundaries without view counts and stats being suppressed. 2016 was a crazy year for youtube, it even makes more sense now that a lot of our fave creators don't upload anymore.
PS: lots of people forget that leafy's twitter was locked for threats or something, he can't get his account backc he didn't abandon twitter
bedo o Leafy MIGHT Have A New Twitter. If You Go On His Wikitubia Page, You Will Find A Link That Leads To A Twitter Account, But It Doesn't Go By LeafyIsHere, But Another Name Instead.
I think in order for you to even begin to ask us to feel bad for leafy, he would have to have even ONE redeeming trait, or done even ONE good thing in his entire career. "Feel bad for the fate of the irredeemable peice of crap who did nothing good, made no positive changes to the world around him, and contributed nothing positive whatsoever in his entire existance" is a hard sell for leafy, and The victim of circumstance routine doesn't really do it fof me. The algorithm might have favored bullying children as apposed to Minecraft Let's Plays, but, commentary videos weren't LITERALLY the only type of content on the entire platform, he could have chosen to transition to a thousand other niches at any point if he felt remorse or wanted to grow up. Weren't film and game reviews booming at that time ? "Damn Blockbuster is going out of buisness, better get into dogfighting if i want to continue my career, there is no other logical conclusion"
I miss 2016 YouTube drama. People actually had problems with each other and it was interesting to watch. Now in 2018 we have dumb staged drama that's just cringeworthy.(Great Video man!!!)
I miss the times when people fought against other people. It's just not the same when you attack the company that allowed all this in the first place. Leafy was basically the fake villain who was "betrayed" by YouTube.
Hmm, looking at the numbers, doesn't look like Content Cop killed any channels. The Fine Bros was on an upswing when the Content Cop came out, if the mark you put is correct. the prank channel was on a decline and the content cop didn't seem to effect how fast it went down.
16:31 Using glue70 Casin is fitting since it's on the Leafy Radio channel, which I don't think is actually connected to Leafy but is widely assumed to be run by him 41:29 Now that I think about it, it is really weird. I watched Leafy from time to time back in his hay-day, but over time his videos suddenly stopped appearing in my reccomended. I didn't notice it at all so if it really was a ploy by Youtube, it worked 45:50 You were 16 when you made Uncredibles?? Damn, that makes it even more impressive of a poop
I see this emoji thing everywhere. Idk the official name of the emoji thing. It appears in tons of surreal memes. The first thing that comes to my mind when i see that emoji is either ihaveaids:) ifunny:) or maybe those shitheads from the movie whose name shouldn't be said.
Your seemingly natural ability to weave an epic narrative, [masquerading as retrospective commentary] has eclipsed what many would consider the standard of “quality” on YouTube - to the point I’m having serious doubts that EmpLemon the YTP-er isn’t part of some personal Mandela-Effect from a decade prior… 😳😵💫🤔 Your transformative, empathic, intellectual, and humble persona is as refreshing as your rebranding ✨ Keep Up The Great Work! 🙏🏻
Damn this documentary is soo good and interesting that sunnyv2 and other documetary youtuber try to copy it... Even still i want to see sunnyv2 upload about the rise and fall of muselk
I've watched this masterpiece about 30 times now and every time you bring up Idubbbz and that western music comes on, my heart starts to flutter as I remember those days on YouTube. I watched it all unfold. Keep your hand on your gun. Jesus christ it gets me every time.
Joe Yacketori2021-06-11 12:03:45 (edited 2021-06-13 21:10:56 )
You acknowledge Leafy likely didn't invent it, but just for a concrete example, ReviewtechUSA did the "gameplay and unrelated commentary" style way before Leafy. Edit: Now that I think of it, I think this style may have been pretty common before Leafy. Maybe with the exception of it being the main focus of a channel.
Talking about the conspiracy theory, I also noticed censorship in the comment section as well. I'm not sure if this correlates with anything, but I noticed during this period that youtube's comment section underwent "restructuring" during that phase. Before the restructuring, you could say anything you want and get your comment noticed. Now, there are certain things you cannot say without getting completely "censored" by youtube. Maybe this plays into the demonetization change, maybe not. Who knows. It's just my two cents.
Interesting to see a guy like you talk on whats on your mind. Usually we just see you say a punchline relating to the video, and thats it. Its also interesting to see this in EmperorLemon's channel too, and not in many others. I guess you could say I saw you as just "that guy everybody sees" with nothing else, but not anymore.
Kneight oh but recently the eu parliament pass a law to censor memes adding filters as well as bots they also may even censor sites like reddit and /4chan/ oh I'm scared what are they gonna do with my hentai ? Oh well I have an entire hentai pics in my folder
Have you ever seen a top comment that said "faggot"? It's pretty interesting to think about. Maybe the reason that you always get top comment is because youtube boosts you to the top unconditionally? this video is a lot more thought provoking than i thought it would be.
I swear to god emp you are the only youtuber who can keep me mentally invested in a video for an hour straight. Your content is seriously great.
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Carter Mackenzie2018-07-11 09:16:46 (edited 2018-07-11 09:17:46 )
This video was nostalgic for me. Being with leafys channel since 150k but also just a nice throwback to 2014 - late 2016 YouTube. The glorious days where people could really push the limits of what was actually acceptable. Great video that was well worth the time.
I wonder how he got all this information surely, all of this isnt readily available all the time. I can understand some or most events but this video must of taken alot of time and probably speaking to the right people.
this is all basic stuff most people knows with some theory at the end. the theory was very impressive since it had basically been comfirmwd when leafy actually got banned. this video is out of date and i’d love for him to do a remake. and also explain how his minecraft content wasnt the normal content but was promotion for his server which he made his first $100k from and how toxic of a pool the minecraft server running was in those days
Funny thing, I think the only one out of all these guys still doing pretty well, is KeemStar. Outside of getting over Covid, he's getting on live streams with people, and still host Drama Alert and has always been active more or less despite everything.
Wow, once again I am floored but the amount of effort you put into these YT Geographic videos. 2016 YouTube seems like such a distant memory now. YouTube was definitely a lot more fun and interesting back then. All the drama with Leafy, h3h3, Keemstar, GradeA and IDubbbz put YouTube into a state of Civil War. So many memes. And what's going on now with the Ad-pocalypse almost makes me wish Leafy was still here. Perhaps maybe things would be different now. Amazing video again! I look forward to more YouTube history.
Yea it’s like each summer something crazy happened like 2016 the temporary fall of keemstar and decline of leafy with other things then 2017 with the rise of the Pauler Empire aka Jake Paul’s stupidity in full force. Now I wonder what this summer is going to be like
EmpLemon this absolutely beautifully done. The quality this has is top notch with production and facts right...
But watching this made me kinda sad though... It made me feel nostalgia for the time when leafy was still popular because he was actually my favorite youtuber at the time... Rip leafy...
I wonder how long it'll be before someone as interesting as leafy shows up, leafy United most everyone against him something like that is very rare on youtube
Different people, same story as me, I'm worried that he died in real life though, I don't need a closure video, just a confirmation that he didn't just die would be nice
4:19 I don't know about you, but every time I see something that looks easy, like getting rich on YouTube, I wonder if it was that easy, wouldn't everyone do it? Doesn't everyone have the exact same idea? Logically speaking, if everyone has the same idea to do something, you have a terrible chance at being successful. In my eyes, if you want to be successful on YouTube, you have to do two things: something different than everyone else, and care about you content you make. This part summed up my thoughts about this.
WOW! just wow! Very impressed with the scripting, structure, story telling, visual "and just overall" the creation of this video! very impressed with this really held the emotion and tons of research was conducted! you have my subscription OH YEAH! was also very entertaining! keep it up looking forward to what you create next
Wow. You are very positive about this. Not making fun. Not hating. It's just you are so happy you almost sound sarcastic. lol! Well if I could be that positive I would have a life and go outside for once! Keep it up, my guy!
Dayum, never thought I'd watch almost an hour long video about a YouTuber's downfall but glad i did. I started watching YouTube at the end of 2016, so there were a lot of things i had heard of but didn't know the whole story. I've never watched Leafy's videos but i kind of want him to make a comeback to see what would happen. And great advice/moral, will definitely keep that in mind as a YouTuber.
FrostBug So what's wrong in that? Yes, i started using it in place of TV at the end of 2016 but i was still using it casually before. And it didn't take me that long to familiarise with the platform, that's why i started my own channel and I'm satisfied.
Griffith did nothing wrong Using YouTube means using it instead of tv, obviously i knew about it before and using it but never subscribed to any channel back then.
4:00 Bruh that was 12yo me's EXACT mindset... I was literally watching a CaptainSparklez video one day and thought "this looks easy, imma do that" and so I started posting Minecraft Let's Plays lol. They were unedited 25 minute long videos of just vanilla Minecraft gameplay on a potato Laptop with a little bit of commentary. One of my favourites was one where I was loudly eating rice crackers into the mic for about half of the video, and somehow I thought "Yep, this is it, this is the video that is going to get me famous" lol.
To be fair idubbbz video wasn't the one that made leafy lose a shit ton of subs it was actually "the real leafyishere" video made by heywatchyourmouth while I don't think it singlehandedly kill leafys channel but is what what made him lose a lot of subscribers
Edit: Not saying that idubbbz video didn't create an impact cause it did, everyone was clowning after that video
It’s been a very long time since I’ve been genuinely interested and then impressed with a YouTube video. This was like watching a movie, and it was very well done. If you always put this much effort into your content, you should surpass leafy in no time :)
I wasn’t a fan of leafy but for some reason I came across his content a couple of years ago due to the YouTube algorithm and I couldn’t help but think this kid seemed like a little craphead. I understand everyone has opinions but that also doesn’t mean your opinions are protected from any backlash that can bring. Every action has a reaction.
I don't remember when, it was years ago, I got a recommandation: a Leafy video. I ignored it at first, but it never went away, so I watched it. It hooked me so I kept watching and watcing and then more recommendations of Leafy's videos appeared and I kept watching. I gave in to this type of videos and subscribed to him. I started to watch his videos regularly since, back then, I was too an edgy and angry teen. But then I grew bored of him. I stopped watching his videos and finally, I unsubscribed from him. And then something happend. I noticed that youtube erased every hint of Leafy from my recommandations. Every time I got recommended a type of video I stopped watching, Leafy crossed my mind. I wondered what happend to him, why suddenly I stopped seeing something that once bombarded my recommandations? I didn't even got recommended H3H3's video about Leafy, not even content cop. Not even one video from Keemstar about him (and because of this I didn't even knew about these 'dramas' between Leafy and others untill 1-2 years later). I thought 'wow youtube finally understands when people don't want to watch certain things anymore??' so I left it like that, plus I didn't cared enough to give him a search. But it was still curios how he just disappeared into thin air from my youtube way before that big fall he experienced.
This same thing happened to me, minus the edgy teen part, back then I was very tame and his videos were like shock value jokes to me, hense why I watched them
This is a whole ass documentary and it is some of the most engaging content on YouTube at the moment. It is so well written, and scripted, and edited. Time felt like it flew by watching this. I think your theory about YouTube makes a lot of sense. Think about Scarces' channel at the moment, he says in pretty much all his videos that they get demonetized as soon as they upload and that no one at YouTube will help him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if YouTube has been discreetly (or not so discreetly) trying to make it harder for drama/commentator channels.
I mean I guess Youtube has the right to demonitize those whose content they don't like on their platform, but they can at least just flat out say it and not keep some youtubers confused for weeks
I think the reason keem didn't decline was because nobody really made the same content as him like scarce existed but watching scarce and watching keem was 2 different experiences while with leafy he was both not the best and not the only one idk lol jus my theory
Your analysis rings true…I’ve been a YouTube addict for years (when it was only bad homemade music videos and stuff about Nibiru) and this is the first time I’ve heard of this channel….
I've seen your Trump and Kimmel videos so I knew this would be good. You do your homework and try to understand a situation objectively versus looking through a biased lense. Keep it up dude. 👍
Just rewatched this video again, and call me crazy, but I loved leafy's content, I'll occasionally pull up some re-uploads and put it on my other monitor while I play a game, and it's some good stuff.
Seeing clips from idubbbz's content cop on Leafy hits differently in 2021 when now you know that idubbbz's wife and then girlfriend Anisa lusted after Leafy, lmao.
I love YT drama muppets.
While he wasn't the most serene youtuber, Leafy provided one of the only content that appealed to a Cynical and slightly Depressed audience (i was one of them), i was sick with the whole 'Inoffensive force-positivity vloggers' alongside a growing trend of politicised nonsense and rhetorics that has spiraled out of control today.
Leafy's content was a type of middle-ground between those 2 extremes, instead of a more 'formal' approach to commentary he would instead just poke fun at while giving his honest cynical opinion about a topic or person.... instead of going off on a tangent or Ranting about it. he makes (and repeats) some stale jokes, give his thoughts and be done with it.
Instead of Taking things seriously like most people, Leafy would just laugh at a dumb situation and move on -
that's what appealed to me about him at least.
EDIT: I never even subscribed to him, just occasionally watched and enjoyed some of his videos
yeah, to be honest I also watched leafy videos circa late-2015 until around the keemstar drama but he was one of those channels that I never fully engaged with. it was essentially just above background noise, he was like the video equivalent of taking a random buzzfeed quiz from a facebook timeline, so kind of engaging but not really. it was never until after all of the drama that I rewatched his videos and realised how polarising and toxic they actually were because I just never really paid much attention to what was being said before
"Lemon Jelly - Homage to Patagonia" EmpLemon always has pastebins in the description of his videos where you can find each song used in order of appearance. Sadly they don't come with timestamps but you can always just make blind guesses until you find it.
I saw Link on the thumbnail and my brain immediately jumped to the thought that you've made a video about Zelda but when i read the title i was mildly disappointed
The Leafy Content Cop being on trending as a cover up seems more likely than I want it to be being that YouTube has gone out of its way to keep Content Cop off tending since then.
I’ll wear the tin foil hat with you, I’ve never seen one Leafy video, from his actual channel, never even heard of him during his peak, it was H3H3 and idubbs, was when I first heard of him, and then Charlie Moistcritikal, Grade A uk all of them, I watched all those vids, looked up Leafyishere and like u said never saw his channel pop up, even recently where all the youtubers were like Leafy is back, u look him up, his channel doesn’t pop, so I’m like…hm. Ur conspiracy may be 100% right
honestly, i feel if leafy responded just by saying "yeah, the content cop was immature and pretty bad, but i have to admit my chin game is weak. just as i bash others, its only fair and expected that i would one day get bashed in return and i congratulate idubbbz in his success." or something along those lines, he probably would have been fine after the content cop.
KillerMemestar Lol yes the fact that I’m not saddened by LeafyIsHere losing followers means I’m not sympathetic. You definitely have a complete judge of my character based on these two comments.
In the end. Leafy single handledly shook the entire platform of youtube to its core. All while being done in a dusty bedroom, talking into a mic over CSGO.
gaagle boss 2016 was a shitty year but YT was the most juicest it has ever been. The only drama that came close to being that good was the Sidemen and Netnobody beef.
Back in 2016 I was in middle school and all my classmates were obsessing over the drama between Leafy, Keemstar, Idubbz, H3H3, Pyrocynical and etc and I never understood what all the fuss was about. It seems so petty and stupid to me, I never got what all the fuss was about. I had to pretend to care about these shitty YouTubers to fit in with my classmates, glad to see their downfall.
EmpLemon, your videos are not just good, they are inspiring. Knowing that there is someone out there who REALLY understands youtube who isn't some performer's handler or marketing guru. It gives me hope. It only takes one little dog pulling back the curtain to expose the Great and Powerful Oz. Don't ever give up. No one else on this site is making any content 1/10th as important as yours.
These feels less like a historical episode and more like a current event crash course. Not a bad episode by any means, just feels really random to tackle a subject as well known as Leafy.
I also absolutely love that Shining reference at the end.
What a great video. I was kind of expecting just a lot of filler and the same point that everyone makes, how content cop killed Leafy, but this really had an interesting narrative. The whole "YouTube assassinated Leafy and framed iDubbbz" theory really makes sense to me, and it is REALLY interesting. I don't even want to know how much time you spent editing, researching, looking through archives, writing scripts, scavenging for video clips, looking through twitter posts, looking at past analytics of different channels, and everything else you did to make this video. Definitely my favorite video of yours so far.
Its sort of ironic that his avatar, Tetra from the legend of Zelda series kind of Parallel Leafys internet journey. Tetra is initialy a goodhearted pirate who doesent believe in the princess that will save the world, but ends up becoming that princess and saves her world. While Leafy was just some kid making fun of wierd stuff on the net like the existance of toxic lizard people, he ended up creating the very lizards he made fun of and became the Lizard queen, destroyer of worlds!
(is this a streach,im just trying to justify why i have to associate this fictional character with this poor fool)
If what your saying is correct, regarding Youtube's suppression of Leafy's channel on the search results and algorithm. I'm not sure how that could be legal. With in the bounds of Section 230's Publisher Vs Platform, it sounds like indexing & editorializing. With in the bounds of contract laws, sounds like it could be a violations of non-interference, specially since they didn't renegotiate the contract with Leafy nor inform him of any changes to the contract he signed with him.
Granted, I think any content creator probably could sue Youtube for the constant changes to Youtube's creator policies if they wanted to, since they never talk with us nor negotiate, nor are they transparent with us on policy changes, since every content creator has signs a legal contract with Youtube when we sign up, and them changing how things work with out giving us a chance to object or submit ideas could be seen as a breach of contract. Just no one has ever tried fighting it in court.
i can confirm that youtube was hiding leafy as not once did i ever heard of leafy until he was already dead and i had to search him up and while obviously youtube recommends videos based on your watch its still strange that such a large at the time didn't get recommended now adays million subscriber channels are very common and yeah
Hot take: Making the content he did just because it was popular doesn't meat he HAD to do it, no one had a gun to his head. It's a HUGE assumption to say that people would do the same as he did. Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight either, these are all comments coming from a youtuber, apparently you forgot what it's like not being one.
There’s still a lot of that content out there. Technoblade has some pretty entertaining Minecraft content. Grandayy, SilvaGunner, Cyranek and Dolan Dark are all meme channels that are thriving pretty well. Mumkey Jones is probably one of the most edgy people on the platform right now, and while I don’t particularly like him myself, there is an audience for it and if you like Leafy you might like him as well. If you look past the trending page, there’s content for literally anything imaginable.
The leafy uprising was perfectly placed during my 3rd year of high school. I remember going into my programming class (the real cool class i know) and the people next to me would be talking about his latest upload or the keemstar drama.
But like a high school pregnancy in the classroom next to us he was dropped and left for dead the moment idubbz uploaded his video going for the shiny new commentator pyrocynical
Hey you know how leafs work, trees create them as small sprouts before they become big bright and green leaves. These leaves will absorb all the sunlight. But in the autunm, the tree will slowly kill of its leaves by cutting it off from the food supply the tree has been sustaining his leaves with and drains all last remaining power out of those leaves before they fall off and are left to wither away.
Then next year, no traces of those leaves will be present and others will have taken its place.
You could almost say his name forshadowed his own fate.
I legit have been recomended this video for the last 4 years consistently without watching it till now. I have no memory of ever being reccomended a video by leafy himself.
I think it's fine if he stays off. No hate, it's just that being a YouTube commentator, especially on popular topics, is just WAY too much drama to deal with. I think Leafy isn't coming back just so he can live a more serene life. I wouldn't blame him. Who would wanna stay in an environment like that forever and miss out on life? I hope he's doing alright, and if coming back to YouTube is just gonna be drama for him, he should just stay off of it.
Yeah true, I used to watch Leafy sometimes before he was famous. Right when he started doing commentary and was in a sort of little alliance with Luna and xCodeh who were doing the same thing.
@lightnung Convinced by the content cop about what? He cyber heckled people? He didn't make extremely hard working original content? Nobody watched leafy for original content, he knew this and that's why he didn't change or put more effort into them. His fans didn't care he was cyber heckling kids or rando's on the internet... that was content to them. I really don't understand how "content cop" convinced people not to watch leafy anymore.
I mean well, yeah. Minecraft used to be way more popular even than it is now, and that’s saying something. Minecraft in its early days was so good because nobody understood it all.
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Matthew Spurlock2021-02-12 06:45:11 (edited 2021-02-12 06:46:14 )
“Oh he gone now honey,” said the sweet old black at your local grocery store.
@行屍走肉 Leafy came back for a while, he was being pretty faithful to his original content. It was incredibly refreshing. And then YouTube banned him because he had several videos which featured Pokimane in the titles because of drama going on with her, but it was almost purely clickbait because he would talk about stocks and stuff like that after giving like one sentence on the poki topic. Even tho Ethan H3H3 made hours upon hours of character assassination content on Keemstar with virtually zero consequence, Leafy was somehow guilty of “harassment” and got swiftly banned by youtube outright for making the most surface level insults and jokes like “bro she’s not even that attractive.” If anything he was mocking Poki’s fans WAY more than he was mocking her
Tl;dr the Leafy story doesn’t end at the point this video leaves off at
@Former CT Governor Dannel Malloy Well after he made the refreshing videos for a while he just went right back to the reactions where he just made fun of people repeatedly so that might've contributed.
44:40 Actually, yeah. A little bit before he was banned from YouTube one of his videos was recommended to me. I just clicked on it, commented "Leafy is still a thing? Lol." and closed it.
It absolutely was YT working behind the scenes. I specifically remember him dropping off my feed at one point and wondering why he wasn't doing a videos. And then finding out he still was, it just wasn't showing up on my subs feed or recommendations. I thought it was very fishy at the time and wondered how he could possibly disappear that quickly despite the fact that he was doing the exact same content & not much, despite the drama, had changed. It became evident to me at the time that attitudes were beginning to change, too, about making fun of other youtubers. I have never bullied anyone, in fact I have always stood up for the underdog, but it was a guilty pleasure to watch Leafy rip people a new asshole. Most of the people he made fun of deserved it, and were whiny spoiled assholes or complete idiots (like that chick who put handfuls of fake cum on her face) who needed a smack of reality. Sometimes I felt bad for his targets, but that didn't make me want to watch him any less. And I knew he was a nerdy ex-Minecraft player, I really didn't care. There was something about him that made you want to watch and see what he had to say about the next weirdo.
I have been saying for a long time that it's no longer YouTube, it's TheirTube. Google had even said years ago they wanted to transform YT into "the next cable tv." They turned YT into a vast machine and you either comply with their rules & their idea of friendly entertainment, or they will get rid of you one way or another. If they can't get rid of you directly then they will make the environment so incompatible that certain users would have to leave. In the case of Leafy they sucked all the water out of his pond and left him to dry in the hot sun. Was it right? No. Was it legal? Probably not...but who's going to argue doctored numbers with them?
@bdjsjshhehehd ugh that girl having sex with dogs >_< and she was even making instructional videos how to do it. She got kicked off YT shortly after Leafy ripped on her. Shortly after Leafy left YT he did one live stream on Twitch and never did anything on Twitch again, as far as I can tell. Maybe he felt uncomfortable there. I watched it and he seemed kind of rattled at the time and I kinda felt bad for him because he really didn't seem to have too many friends. Which was arguably his own fault...he never seemed to understand why he pissed people off. He burned every bridge immediately after going over it. It was kind of sad it all spun down into a big drama war, but then again nothing lasts forever.
godaikin6886 she actually ended up getting arrested in real life which is actually thanks to leafy for bringing her to peoples attention. Can I still watch that last stream? I mean he did lose a lot of his friends but it was nice to see that him and keemstar made up after that flame war, and who knows, maybe he made up with the other people he had beef with
Huh, that switch thing is interesting to me, because sometimes not switching keeps the channel around. EthosLab is a good example; doing Minecraft for years, and still uploading actively.
5:45 "Minecraft would pass its cultural peak in summer 2013, and would never be as popular again" 2021: Dream SMP trending on Twitter every goddamn day
You should do an update about leafy getting banned off youtube Then going to twitch and getting crippled then when he came back to youtube got thrown off the cliff to never return
As a former watcher of Leafy's, the quality of his content dropped significantly even before the content cop and I just found myself not clicking on his videos in my feed like I used to. This drop is hard to notice because he was using the exact same formula and style of video, but his jokes were less funny, he was repeating things in every video, and was much less interesting to watch as a result. Perhaps it came from a lack of motivation in the wake of all the hate he was getting.
Ultimately, I don't think he was that horrible a person. Put anyone in his situation who has no experience being in the limelight and they'd probably be the same. He didn't have the foresight to see what his fans would do to the people he featured in his videos. To him it was all just for laughs, and the people he 'roasted' in his videos were funny to watch, and at a time his commentary was genuinely funny as well.
One thing I find so interesting is how almost all of the creators involved with him I personally like today. h3h3 and idubbbz for instance I actually admire, pyro is okay and even fucking keemstar seems to be alright now. But there has been a time that I have disliked things that they have done. No one was completely innocent in the youtube drama of 2016, and I think it's a shame that leafy seems to be the only channel that has died for what he did. Look at today though, and all of these other channels are thriving. Perhaps leafy was the youtube Jesus, who died for everybody's sins, all of the sin of youtube was thrust upon him, allowing everyone else to live in eternal subscriber growth. Interesting to think about.
I was also a leafy fan (although, I was not a rabid drone of his), and looking back at it, I never saw too much quality in his content, but most of the videos i saw from him were the ones where he targeted other channels
46:21 Well, I guess I'm the one. Call me weird, but I make videos just for the hell of it, whenever I feel like it. And although I may have a lot of things to say about politics and social issues, I've no desire to share my thoughts with a broad audience. Too anti-social for that and there's more than enough channels that can do it better anyway.
Ikr if a movie came out about a guy like Leafy, who starts out making innocent content but then rides a toxic trend to fame, and then you see him mishandle his celebrity status making more and more enemies, until his tragic downfall when everyone (even the megacorporation of his own platform) turns against him, that'd probably be a fucking good movie
I believe it because when I was like 8-10 I was watching pyro but I never saw leafy in my recommended not once and since their content is similar it would make sense I believe it
Forgive me father, for I have sinned. Back at his peak, I was a reptilian. I hissed and sought those channels. Never kys-ed, didn't even know what it meant. I would've been 12 at the time, start of 7th grade. Weird times back then.
Although you can grow a YouTube channel to the millions mark doing one thing for years if that thing you do is niche, like Techmoan. You only have to adapt and evolve if you started out trend chasing.
when I clicked on this I was expecting to watch 10 minutes in, then make a comment saying its well known facts and that it can be summed up in a 10 minute video, but I ended up watching the whole thing. I didn't realize the story went this deep, now I actually feel really terrible for him; I had an empty feeling inside, and feel bad about all the backlash he got, thank you for sharing the true side of the story. I am definitely subscribing due to the fact that I've never watched an hour long video on YouTube feeling like I just watched a feature film.
I love your content so much, but if your theory is correct (and I don't think it is, although certainly a factor), why was only Leafy's channel affected? Keemstar's wasn't, despite being the same rating and despite you yourself pointing out how similar they are. You act as though your theory accounts for the anomaly, but really it leaves it unexplained? Is there not another correlation here?
Wow, dude, your video is like, so well-made, it's true craftmanship, you actually did a journalist-job on this subject, but not only that, the musics, the editing, that's the second video is see from you (the first was the "Behind the meme rant") and I'm actually impressed how good the content you make is. Hope you'll continue making such nice videos, and maybe one day you'll become more famous than Leafy
Lmao. This video aged so well. Well done, detective. Not only you had an amazing analysis of why he "quietly" disappeared, but confirmed to us as YT removed him completely after he came back.
People have been doing unrelated gameplay commentary since 2010, I’m not saying they all did it about the same topics as leafy but people like DarksydePhil have existed for a very long time.
Damn I never thought I'd feel sad for leafy, but it is truly sad to see someone much like us fall to his own corruption. You know he wasn't really evil at heart, at least not to begin with, he just wanted some fame and glory. Leafy may have died due to his own folly, but he deserves at the least a nice tomb. His death was a tragedy. We don't have to remember him fondly, but we should not forget him and what he taught us.
I think it’s better this way. Is it really so bad for YouTube to knock down the people giving it a bad name or cancerous community? Leafy was promoting bullying and hate, so it’s really just cleaning up.
This makes no sense since youtube lost i'ts credibility supporting logan's suicide forest and apology videos. Should've happened to logan if you ask me.
+Dark Technica He had no "balls" to speak of. He attacked children and people weaker than him. He was a fucking coward and a disloyal snake. His only power came from betraying his fellows and profiting off their corpses so to speak.
But in a sense Leafy never died. It took the form of Youtube. The idea never died. YT became what they hated most. And this time it effected EVERYONE and no one could win.
vally V ok lil tay i agree with but ppl like jojo siwa havent done anything yet half the internet bullies her, i didnt like his commentary videos either i thought they were boring but all im saying is everyone makes fun of kids on the internet yea leafy went too far sometimes but most of the time he was doing the same thing as everyone does now, he was just ahead of his time on commentary videos making fun of someone
Leafy was the Napoleon of his era in terms of YouTube, he was extremely innovative and ambitious for his time, but said ambition is what bit the bullet. Just like Napoleon, leafy made too many enemies and only his closest subscribers still followed him towards the end.
Rusty the channels that were caught up in the 2016 drama storm are either much different or incredibly successful, both even. Some are no longer active. It’s insane
So you prefer today’s state of YouTube, where every mature content creator is forced to tone down their humor due to the fear of demonetization?
I said one of the many golden ages. Personally, I find the 2015-16 era a lot of fun to talk and reminisce about. At least it wasn’t as boring as today’s state of things.
man i dont eve know what happened. one minute youre watching this guy with 3k subs monologing with a cs go surf clip in the background, next thing you know the guy is making millions of subs and then hes just gone. i didnt really watch his videos in the e d when he was just pumping out daily videos reacting to some shit, but the whole thing was huge. couldnt go in qny comment sections without people spamming "HISSSS" or something.
yeah. in 2016 i was on and off with my gf, had friend problems, did a lot of drugs and od'd twice but still i miss 2016, both on youtube and irl. the world was less heavy then
Same here, man. I was really trying to figure myself out back then and got really obnoxiously edgy for a while as a result. Shit sucked for everyone involved, including me. YouTube was honestly kind of like a solace to me back then.
@Curllum oh yeah totally agree most of the time it's not good but hey atleast, kids that DDos, the Tommync, Mr black darkness666 and all the other bullying videos were funny :)
did anyone catch at 23:20 where Ethan says "i didnt want to make this video because theyre my friends, but for some reason everyone has been giving them a pass."
you...just admitted to giving them a pass because youre they're your friends.
If leafy were to come back, but toned down and matured a bit, to fit in with current commentary channels, I would welcome him back with open arms. He just needed a few years of maturity before opening up a channel, and now I think he would be fine coming back. He never really bothered me other than picking on people who were sensitive and didn't deserve it. All he needs to do is genuinely apologize and take credit for what he did wrong and we wouldn't have let his channel die. It really is sad that a unique person went toxic so fast.
Is it me or is it just amazing to look back on how things have changed? Like, remembering a certain moment in your life while you did something, but just a little while later, that something is gone now.
Naj Adamu2018-07-01 18:13:03 (edited 2018-07-01 18:14:44 )
I remember a couple afternoons or so from spring to summer 2016, probably shortly after H3H3's rant video, where I just started watching most of Leafy's videos for an afternoon and just got engrossed in his style and colourful roasts... and then, yeah, it was probably early 2017 that his content just continued being stale, and I ended up finding it just dull and immature to watch him, and unsubscribed for good.
It's a shame he never thought to try something different and flex his creative muscles, like, say, Pyrocynical (who was originally criticised for being a Leafy clone, but if you look of his videos now, they bear little to no resemblance to the kind of 2016-style commentary that he and guys like NFKRZ became known for, and are of much better quality and analysis). He just doubled down to the point that he became a caricature of himself.
Mr. Popanz me too. My comments on youtube on older videos are so idiotic and embarrassing, but I take it as a mark in time of innocent smol me.
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Mr. Popanz2018-07-01 19:45:37 (edited 2018-07-01 19:46:15 )
Manly Man: I'd argue that even as much as we love to hate what "internet has done to us", the single fact that we can actually reflect via hard evidence on our past thoughts, can be so enlightening if one dares to take that oddysey, it single handedly outweights the odds by itself.
Mr. Popanz true, the internet should probably be seen as an escape as some sort, but at times it can be frustrating. But all around fun in of itself :')
I really fucking hope Calvin actually watches this. I wonder how he would feel after watching this video, it is literally the most interesting thing I have thought of for a very long time as sad as it sounds it is the truth haha
Leafy was also recently featured in a drama alert video. Basically he said he wasnt actually sorry for TommyNC2010 and Leafy also said he left only because of money and he wasnt getting enough of it
This documentary is so fucking epic somehow the element of music mixed with the commentary gets me so god damned hype and the transitions are fucking beautiful I was up til 3am watching this
It could also be that Leafy’s fans started to mature. It’s quite obvious that Leafy’s audience was largely made out of edgy 13 year olds, including myself. I started watching Leafy somewhere in July (of 2016), and I was hooked immediately. I watched his videos everyday. I started to become a Leafy fanboy myself, and used the “BuT iT’s SaTiRe” argument when someone dared to speak out against the Great Leafy. I didn’t think Leafy was doing anything wrong at the time. I liked Leafy and his videos so much, that I even made a low quality commentary video myself, mostly because I dreamed to become a big YouTuber like him. Hell, it’s still on my channel, so you can watch it if you want. It was in the beginning of September, more than a week away from the Content Cop, that I grew bored of him, and that I decided to unsubscribe.
But I didn’t get bored of him, because I became a big boy or anything. It’s because Leafy’s content was incredibly repetitive. He made 1 video everyday, and they were all identical. He used the same kind of playground insults in every single one of his damn videos. That’s one of the reasons why Leafy lost popularity, and it was one of the biggest criticisms about him. But of course, I’m pretty sure that YouTube has a lot to do with the fall of Leafy’s empire. I haven’t gotten any of his videos in my suggested list since the end of 2016. And I have never really looked back.
Great video, btw, although not as good as your Teletubbies reboot video. That video had a lot of good points and valid criticisms.
Mr Kacperov I have been the opposite of Leafy myself content wise. I've been interested in creating a plethora of different Contents. I do however see beyond veils and I can tell that Calvin Veil is suffering from a couple of things that the public is oblivious to.
EmpLemon explained in the video why this is unlikely. While other channels with the same issue just faded away with time, Leafy got hit with an 80% drop in the span of 2 months. Why would all those people decide to not watch Leafy at the (almost) exact same time? It's not impossible - but unlikely.
I personally saw leafy(and pyro too for a while) as the McDonald’s of commentary videos, but not in the way Emplemon sees it. While someone like H3H3 or Idubbbz created quality content, or the fine dining experience, leafy was the much more abrasive, less insightful, but still watchable content that could pad out the time between the amazing episodes. In other words Leafy was the McDonald’s of commentary channels, it wasn’t exactly good, but it was good enough and was there and convenient. Other than that there wasn’t much.
Not gonna lie late 2015-16 were good times you never knew what was gonna happened. to this day i can remember that video of that big girl who was singing in a pool. Man those were good times.
This is highly unlikely. Started to rise in beginning of 2016 and started to fall at the end of 2016. It's not that people grew up. Besides leafy's fanbase most likely consist of Teens and young adults anyway.
22:29 You know, to add to all the negative drama caused by Leafy about MrBlackDarkness, can't we also add that he was outright attacking a guy whose profile picture back then looked like Freddie Mercury from The Killer Queen music video? Seriously, compare Mr. Black's face in the picture to how Freddie Mercury looked in that video, people! It's just that he had his hair dyed black, and his eyes too. Besides that, just imagine Leafy attacking the real Freddie Mercury for some silly reason. I bet Queen fans would not have it.
@Darci 「Heads Will Roll」 Since all the kids that played Minecraft either grew up or migrated to Fortnite, Minecraft is now seen as more of a nostalgic and well-remembered thing.
@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1 While its true that Minecraft, sales wise, just grew even more, its cultural impact had died down a shit ton after about 2015 or so, and from 2016-late 2018, most people saw it as an cringy game with an cringy fanbase, untill this year that is
in all honesty considering all the stats the hissing brought to a channel my reaction would be hiss away dear friends and invite your friends. i will build an empire on your army xd
Large LArry The storytime videos were always my favorite. To bad he didn't keep making them because I found them very entertaining and even now they're not as stale as his regular content.
I think you're right but you shouldn't dismiss content cops power. It might not kill the fanbase entirely but it turns the community against you, especially if you have a similar fanbase like leafy and idubbbz did. Most youtubers try to keep their head down after it but for people like leafy that wasn't an option. His response video was so poor in quality that a lot of people jumped ship. Youtube shot leafy, idubbbz hit his bleeding out channel with a club.
Honestly I think the best course of action for Leafy would have been to not respond to the content cop. He had a very active audience that was much different from Idubbbz's audience. By making the shitty response video, it prompted his fans, many whom probably were unaware, to view Idubbbz video, and it was game over from there.
Bronzewarrior It explains why the ricegum content cop didn't kill him, the audience of both channels are pretty diferent so idubbz couldnt turn ricegum's audience against him because ricegum's audience didn't watch idubbz video.
However i think the true power of content cop is not destroying a specific youtuber but more about killing a type of contetn showing the rest of the comunity how toxic that content may be.
The best action would've been if leafy did an actual genuine video taking in advice from the content cop and rebutting little. The community wouldn't have been able to turn on him as much if he showed himself to be the bigger man.
Joe Joseph i dont think soo, both audience were not so different and leafy style of content requiered an answer i think.
He just didn't spected it yo be soo bad he maybe thought he could benefit from the drama, but he didn't realize that idubbz was able to get a lot more that leafys audience against him
In my own opinion, CC videos are just fire starters. They attract people with a bright glow, and the get bigger as more people come to see it, whenever if your a fan of Idubbbz, a random patron of YouTube, of a fan of the targeted person. Soon that fire grows into something bigger, and at that point, there is the chance that it dies down like every other big or dramatic moment in time (Ricegum), or depending on actions relating to it (like BW says, responses, leaked info, etc) , it can become a chaotic wave of energy that can turn things to ash and leave somewhat of a wreak behind when it's over. it's like a 2017 Californian wildfire, or how Prometheus gave fire to humankind, resulting in the development of a chaotic world. (im not that good at hyperbole's)
Also, I think the point in this video neglects that the term "killing channels" is not destroying their viewer-base and leaving them without a job, it's destroying their reputation among any other respected creators and stopping those mistakes. Tana is the best example of that. She was made out to be a fool, and her only response was to apologize. That saved her respect from her audience, but no one else's.
So what I see YouTube wanted to get rid of leafy for promoting cyber bullying, but after successfully doing so, caused most of YouTube to go into a mess. Creating the Adpocalypse, the Demonitization, the weird perverted kid videos. And so much more.
xxx_barbz_xxx exactly, It's quite ironic how YouTube seems to like to censor videos explaining depression, but then showing a suicide victim on 1 on trending.
THIS. Plus, I find it really ironic that he was singled out and labelled as a "cyberbully" when, shortly after his YouTube career ended, the commentary genre became one of the most popular on YouTube. I really don't get why everyone paints him as the devil when so many people are currently poking fun at the tiktok kids for views. Nobody calls those cyberbullies. And rightfully so. Man, I miss the old YouTube...
Well, the darkness guy was telling them that the curse was not undone yet. That he needed to perform another spell. But then they like, laughed at him... So yeah.
Turtato as you know, if you watched the video, or watched the drama alert, that MrBlackDarkness666 placed a curse on leafy. So, he’s theorizing the the curse killed leafy
>leafy tries lifting it by using comedy and parodies as excuse >dosen't work >content cop kicks in >tree gets cut down by ex-subscribers, pyro and content cop > leafy the leaf dies
No, it was because he brought to surface the Pedophilic nature of various youtubers. Then, He was forced to stop making Video's. I get it bro, you're being cool and dark or whatever... but thats what actually happened.
Still sticking with my theory that Leafy's loss of fame is due to his infernal contract for popularity expiring. He sold his chin to the devil for his brief time in the sun.
Definitely, he got to see his channel grow so quickly, and the he got destroyed and humiliated, i kinda feel sorry for him, i wasn't too aware of all the drama back then so i didn't really hate him, and hating him now would be a really stupid thing.
No. The witch cherylyn barnes put magik onto him... Its in his last 20 vids. She contacted a real occultist and youtuber named "share his vision" and asked if deep manipulation could be poured over leafys soul essence. All his social medias were manipulated and deleted. If you wish to visit the youtuber "share his vision" then search him. Perhaps he will grant you a dark blessing.
EmpLemon I want to thank you for being creative and continuing doing your own thing. Watching your videos give me memory trips on historic events on YouTube and, honestly, inspires me to be better with my own work. I hope more YouTubers can follow your image of being the best at what they're good at rather than follow the trends, and I hope YouTube can have its "renaissance" again. Keep doin' whatcha doin' because true pieces of work will always get recognized!
You know... It really is sad to see that time has flown past us over the years... and leafy's downfall happened a couple of years ago. It really does make you wonder where has all the time gone through the years. This is why I love EmperorLemon's content, I love it because most of the videos that he makes like youtube geographic or meme theory really makes me think about things that I never would have thought about before. It makes you feel like you are learning something new and you start to wonder and question about things and think about so much to the point where you make your own hypothesis on the subject. Or atleast thats how I feel when I watch emplemons content, anyways... keep up the amazing work as always! I'm a huge fan of this channel and I am certainly looking forward to whatever your next video could be.
The question becomes: are you doomed to the same fate?
For real though, fantastic upload, quickly became one of my favorite in recent memory. Seemingly no stone was left unturned. I envy your work ethic because I know you're working on this on top of college and an at least part-time job.
I don’t quite understand how a lot of people commenting ”Hisss” and whatnot is so damaging under the pretense that that is the only thing they’re doing. There are tons of bots commenting all over the place that are waaay worse
As someone who was always used to being the “New” audience on youtube, looking back and seeing how much YouTube has changed, and just remembering the leafy drama, and then suddenly realizing that everything is gone is kind of sad in a way. It feels like the storm is over, but at the same time- we’re waiting for a new one. It’s scary how big a part of my life YouTube has been these past few years, and actually feeling like a veteran is a very puzzling but pleasing feeling.
it’s an odd feeling for me, personally. i remember in ‘08 watching youtube live with katy perry lmao. i was 10 at the time, and i’ll be 20 this year. youtube has been a part of my life for 10 years, half of my life. it’s pretty crazy.
oh my god i actually drew that creeper in the thumbnail at 2:27 back in 2010 when i was 14 years old and i guess leafy found it somewhere and used it. so fucking surreal.
i don't really mind, it was just some silly thing i made on deviantart and at some point i think people started spreading it around without a source. the most surreal thing by far was when i was playing tf2 (this was before i knew the drawing had gotten any popularity) and i suddenly saw it on a wall as someone's spray. i was like ".....wait isn't that........WAIT."
Not only was I entertained every single second in your video, but you also have completly changed my opinion about Leafy or anyone who wants to get popular on youtube for that matter. You are right, this whole incident was tragic in the end if you look at the potential of the positive change on this entire website Leafy could have achieved if he stopped when it was time to stop and realised the path he was walking on. Thank you, seriously.
The worst part is, there was a point where his content was decent. His rant videos were very entertaining. He had funny stories, a loose, hyperbolic, and overdramatic way of speaking, and he seemed like he enjoyed making those types of videos. His story about him meeting a pedophile is still one of my favorites on the internet. He turns this simple story into an adventure with twists and turns and punchlines, it was incredibly interesting.
The problem was he ran out of stories. Once he focused his content on reacting to random people's videos, it was just the same, overly harsh shit everytime. He used the same editing techniques, he didn't change up his style or the people he ranted against, and eventually, everyone grew out of it. So they went to people like Idubbbz and H3H3 who made similar content with creativity, memes, and actual variety.
My thoughts exactly. I was watching him 2015 before he really blew up and I loved his story videos and even some of his milder rant videos. I’d never seen commentary videos before so I thought they were amazing. I stopped watching him even before Idubbz did the content cop on him because he was just trying way too hard and his content just became unenjoyable.
Looking back at this makes me miss the 2015-2016 era when YouTubers had edgier senses of humor and were willing to speak their minds. Nowadays the strict terms of service and the demonetization system has neutered any free-thinking youtubers. All of the popular youtubers are now bland, walking-talking commercials. I want people like Filthy Frank, Leafy, and EmpLemon to fill the trending page not James Charles, Dream, or Charli D’Amelio.
I used to be subbed to him. I think your YouTube murder theory might be valid cause I remember there was a point his video's just flat out stopped appearing on my feed. I remember having to actively search his channel to see if/when he uploaded. And that got tedious enough to where I lost interest in his video's, then gradually lost interest in his genre all together.
It really is crazy... I never thought about Leafy's downfall like this. Some kid played Minecraft and drew a moderately big crowd, then 180ed into the commentaries and blew up to crazy heights and blinding speed... and then went power crazy, inadvertently sending millions to harass people, getting involved within a ridiculously convoluted situation that ultimately led to himself and Grade walking away without so much as a farewell and ultimately, just as fast as he'd become the king, his contemporaries and even YouTube itself burned the palace down.
I thought of it back when it happened as some punk harassing others for being different, and then backstabbing Keem and treating Nick Cash (HWYM) like a slave ("is $20 okay?"), and then having all the shit he did finally bite him as iDubbbz and all of the others turned on him and ended his rise. But looking at it now, I see a dumb, edgy kid on the Internet who rose too quickly and ended up losing the world. It truly is tragic.
The reason why Keemstar managed to survive the content cop was because he took everything in stride, he didn't retaliate, and he was was chill enough to even laugh at himself. He even has a gnome keemstar on his desk. Leafy on the other hand can't take any form of criticism and and immediately retaliates; this eventually prooves iDubbbz right and leafy, eventually helping out digging his own grave even faster now.
YouTube Geographic is easily my favorite series of yours. All the hard work you put into this video is apparent and it’s great! Keep up the good work, proud of you.
Woh So? Jademau6 said that EmpLemon, the creator of this video, makes really high quality content. To reply to Jademau6’s comment and make conversation, I said that there were two YouTubers that make some of the highest quality YouTube videos out there at the cost of quantity. It really isn’t as off-topic as you’re making it out to be. :/
I think you might have been on to something when you imply that YouTube itself was conspiring against Leafy somehow, considering they banned him just as he was making a comeback.
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El Jay2021-01-17 18:34:16 (edited 2021-01-17 18:34:47 )
The new corporate, bland and inoffensive youtube won't ever allow again edgy youtubers like leafy to gain a platform at all.
@El Jay Eh maybe when everyone gets tired of sanitized entertainment. Shock Humor seems to explode like every time the coming generation enters that edgy teen phase.
Like all empires they will always fall even if they last 1000s years or more eventually they will fall and Leafy is a obvious example that empires don’t last
you can tell EmpLemon really wants his channel to die. Telling people to unsubscribe didn't work so now he went and exposed Youtube's closed-door conspiracy to kill off Leafy's channel, ensuring a retaliatory measure against him.
Actually good job. This video was amazingly done. It was perfect I learn a lot of shit about leafy that I never really looked into or even thought about, i use to watch leafy, laugh and just have fun but as it turns out it was a lot darker then I ever thought. This is literally YOUTUBE HISTORY! It’s pretty much a tail like Adam and Eve, the boy who cried wolf. It’s like it was made up as a story to say a message or scar kids. All I could do is commend you. Amazing.
Leafy wasn’t perfect but he’s the tombstone of an era of YouTube as a free, truly entertaining space for all instead of the corporate PC bs YouTube only allows nowadays.
+Burgermaru Probably because he's just some random guy with average production value, but who worked hard and was clever and eventually got to the top.
He never denied that he was a dick. And I'm pretty sure that it's just a character that he puts on when on camera. But yeah, I've always respected him, and I miss his content.
As a past edgy kid, it wasn't Content cop that made me unsubscribe from Leafy, although it did make me more critical of him, it was the fact that his videos were so repetitive and long. I couldn't stand watching a 10-20 minute video with cringy jokes and forced roasts day after day without variety. However your theory of Youtube does make sense, but we can't simply it with a single cause fallacy, in truth it was a conglomerate of reasons. Actually scratch that, we all know the real reason was because of Mr.BlackDarkness666's curse.
I really liked his content in around 7th grade, by 8th I naturally transitioned into better content and I still haven't even watched IDubbbz's video on him. Now I'm going into 10th and without this video in my recommended, I probably would have completely forgotten leafy. His content did change, but only in minor ways, like new gameplay or when he added the puppet thing, which I found really unfunny.
I wouldn't expect to watch a 50 minute video about a youtuber like Leafy, but this was surprisingly entertaining to listen to while I drew. The vid was really well made and actually had evidence (which is great for a change lmao)
This video is one of my favorites. It is so enjoyable and it mostly has to do with the editing. It's absolutely perfect. This is a great editing style. Great visuals with tons of music. This is a great documentary style for Youtube.
@Face McShooty true and dream did some what approve of his fans action but he's to big for yt to do the demonize thing it would be sucide he hit 20 million in a year
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Random Commenter2018-06-21 06:20:10 (edited 2018-06-21 06:20:23 )
Inb4 YouTube sees you exposing their censorship of leafy and does the same thing to this video
Here I was being confused about Captainsparklez and Minecraft dying until I checked out the upload date. I guess you can't predict absolutely everything...
I hate myself for saying this but i honestly miss leafys videos before he started attacking good people, he was very informative on shitty youtubers and kind of funny to watch still he shouldn't have made fun of an autistic man :/
For a few days, I was one of those people. I admit it. My best reason was that I was 13 years old. Never again.
So, it was actually about 3 months. My parents never found out. We never talked about it. They would have rightly told me to rethink my entertainment and- Basically, online anonymity is the biggest mistake humanity has ever made collectively.
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Jason the Folf2020-12-06 01:32:10 (edited 2021-03-24 12:23:34 )
while i am not doubting your research I did want to point out that at his peak - 5 million subscribers - he attained 0.002% of approximate YouTube users - 2.6 billion - as a subscriber base. When you are a statistical anomaly at the top of your rise - any fall is not really going to need much to become a thing. If YouTube pushed him off his hill it wouldn't really take any effort. Imagine in any other world where .0002% is considered a savage success and maybe it looks different? I dunno... I hate math...
About Leafy being recommended, I can still remember seeing his videos recommended mid 2015, I never watched them, but they were there. Then, never saw him again. Only in 2020 when I was curious of his videos I watched it myself and it was recommended to me. Even in 2016-2018 when I'd constantlt watch videos about Leafy one after the other and repeatedly, I'd never get a single video of his recommended. Can't say that youtube 100% is involved, but I don't think its so wild to assume they had their hands in this.
Half of the internet would rally against him. There are still lots of Snyderfans that belive that the Martha scene was a cinematic masterpiece with a deep meaning.
Something about this video...it’s just so amazing! The fact that I remember most of these events during leafy’s reign and the format of this video makes it a masterpiece. Honestly I went from being one a leafy’s loyal fans to hating his guts and joining H3’s side. This video really made me look at Leafy from a different perspective and makes me somewhat feel bad for him....
I remember finding Leafyishere and all the yt drama as hilarious as a teen. His content and all the yt drama just becomes stale and boring as you grow older and become more mature.
Damn dude this is some seriously high quality content. I randomly found this video in my recommend and clicked on it. I was expecting someone just revisiting the grave of leafy and telling the old tale but what I found instead was a full autopsy. The video had me gripped every monent. Keep it up, you just earned a new subscriber.
I never actualy thought i would actualy watch an almost hour long youtube video but you managed to keep it intressting somehow and i stayed untill the end. This video was pure quality just like everything else you make, keep up the good work.
Really solid video, Emp. Leafy's story is definitely a unique one that you've illustrated extremely well with your research and terrific use of audio/visual metaphorical language with your editing. Of all the things you're currently doing, this series is my personal favourite and I very much look forward to what the next installment will be about.
God damn is it refreshing to see videos like these on YouTube. I just find it interesting to see videos that present YouTube’s history in such an intriguing way, so intriguing that I feel people could view these in the future and truly get a glimpse of what Youtube was like in the mid-2010s. I actually hope that you (Emp Lemon) keep making these videos and almost turn this series into the National Geographic of Youtube (which, given the name of the series, seems to be what you are going for). Either way, up the great work :)
Ahhh leafy... onje of the most epic momments in youtube history. It only shows how much the site has grown over the years where entire communities of youtubers would figth with each other to death. Anyways keep up with the good videos! You are a great youtuber man!
This style of video is amazing. You're ability to grab attention for 50+ minutes is truly incredible. Super entertaining and a lot of good information. I was there for the entire rise and fall of leafy, yet still found this entire video intriguing.
You're only fuckin 20??!? Makes me wish I got my life together sooner haha I was out the bush drinking every night at 20 boy I wish I could take that back
I’m sort of a new YouTube channel but I’ve only been on YouTube since 2016 and over those next 5 years I’ve gotten only 15 subs I’ve seen all of YouTube and tried some new things a lot but I’m still in the regular viewers of all those other videos. the most I’ve seen from my YouTube channel is 400 views All anyone sees from me is just another YouTuber trying to go big without seeing the creators side a passionate kid trying to make people happy
In a nutshell: Leafy got stomped on by YouTube. However in turn, his “death” left a stain, one that would circulate discussion of the fallen YouTube king himself, as what he had done forever changed the Internet, no matter how much YouTube desperately tries to hide it. Personally, your video failed to answer one question that I’m honestly really curious about. Where is he now?
I did not think I would actually watch a video that was about an hour about Leafy of all people. Good job. You captivated me AND gave me a different outlook on Leafy. Being 20 now, I can actually have the smallest blip of empathy for him.
Its so funny how it is like history and the fall of an empire. You should do more videos like this. I feel glad to have seen all this stuff while it was happening.
So its YouTube conspiracy or a curse of underrated weirdo wizard. Understandable have a great day.
I am not one of those who like to watch those YouTube celebrities to much but I like the picture of the dead chanal. Lets be nice to the not nice by remembering this chanal by his Tetra/best Zelda picture meme.
God, 2015-2016 was a wild time. My friends and I were all obsessed with cringe-culture and drama and I followed plenty of commentary channels, like Pyrocynical, Leafy, GradeA, etc. What's weird is that after all the Leafy drama happened, my interest in all of that just vanished. I don't know if it's because the drama train stopped rolling or if I just got bored of all the commentary channels I watched, but that weird period of time where commentary channels ruled Youtube seemed to stop as suddenly as it had started.
Great video BTW. I'm glad you actually tried to humanize Leafy rather than just jumping on the hate wagon.
This would be an awesome series to continue for not only bigger YouTubers but also for smaller channels and Twitch streamers as well. Keep up the awesome work and hope you are having a good day.
You had me until you tried to justify Leafy's actions at the end. Yes, he was immature, obviously, but he knew what he was doing. He knew it wasn't ok.
This is the kind of video I expect when I subscribe to somebody; a well thought out, well formulated piece of content with genuine thought and merit, expanding upon its subject. Thankyou EmpLemon, for providing those videos. Keep being amazing.
Michael sheehan that’s a pretty strict, narrow standard you have, but I can respect that. It’s refreshing to find content so well-developed and thought out amongst the popular garbage that won’t be remembered a week from now.
I hope someday someone could create an animated epic of this time in YouTube's history. What a shame, he planted himself in some fertile soil and began to grow, overshadowing everything before him. He got greedy and tried to scavenge more than he could handle, not looking at what he ate, his leaves, bark, and roots began to rot. Only realizing his mistake one year too late. The season changed and soil could be no more different, some flourished while many perished trying to survive. One could say, his sacrifice was for the better of some, detriment to the climate.
Someone know the name of the awesome music at 22:50
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B Will2018-06-23 16:19:25 (edited 2018-06-23 16:22:55 )
YES There was NO way a content cop would just destroy leafy. He was targeted and the algorithm they changed effectively excluded him and "bullying" through censorship
Leafy wasn't a problem. No one should be above criticism, and leafy made a big move to show that you're misguided to keep pretending that your internet content is a private diary. By uploading, you have now become a publisher and are liable to take the same sort of criticism as TV hosts.
2016 might just be the single most significant year in internet culture. Unless somebody can think of a more important year, I'm quite confident it was 2016.
Amazing video! I just want to point out is that Leafy never abandoned his Twitter because he couldn't be bothered with it anymore, he got locked out of it in may last year and hasn't been able to gain access to it ever since. Also I think the theory of youtube killing his channel is extremely likely, however his videos not appearing at the top when you search 'LeafyIshere', is less so YouTube not wanting to show his videos in search results and more so just a result of the youtube algorithm favouring those who upload frequently, rather than people such as Leafy who haven't uploaded since last year. Great video anyways, all the other points were fantastic.
I agree with your points, but I would like to also like to point out that this treatment Leafy's channel is receiving is not the same treatment other slow posting channels get. If you look up JonTron's channel, you can still see his channel and all of his videos right on top. This might be because he hasn't gotten any sort of backlash and thus no videos that got viral on him created by other users, but it's still something to consider.
Yeah, I found it kinda odd how he used Star_ as an example, considering Star hasn't uploaded anything to his main channel since May 2016 except for, if I recall correctly, an angry rant about people wanting more TF2 when that game had drained for Star that got removed. Or maybe that one was hosted on his second channel. Doesn't matter. Don't upload in 2 years, don't get a subscriber bump for two years.
Damn you're right. I've definitely seen a few of his videos back when I watched Orpheusftw's KOTH YTP Collabs years ago. That's pretty crazy, thanks for the heads up man.
I am honestly speechless...this video was put together so well. You are by far the best documentarian I’ve ever seen. Not gonna lie, I was a fan of leafy because of his unique style and was kinda bummed he left YouTube. But this video made me look at them story from the other side and it was truly a ride. You earned a sub!
It's crazy to think both him and GradeAunderA essentially carved out their niche at the same time, and eventually their own pathetic hypocrisy and inability to handle criticism tanked both their massive channels around the same time, leaving it a ghost town.
As Uncle Ben says, "With great power, comes great responsibility." He had the power, but he wasn't responsible with it. He could've done great things and create a great community, but instead, he looked down on weaker people and fueled a toxic community that caused harm. He turned everyone against him and in the end, karma struck down hard. It's sad to see potential wasted, but unfortunately, that's just how it is with a lot of people.
Yes, I did. The video CLEARLY went over how he turned on some of the friends he made on Youtube. And that Youtube thing is still just a theory, no matter how well-backed it is.
technically, everything that happened in the past is actual history. the matter of relevancy to the world or the country it took place in is the only debate had when they record such history. sure, there was the guy who went to the ER with a whole-ass vibrator stuck in his ass, and that was certainly something people remember (it's hard to forget once you hear it just one time), and it is technically historical, i have a lot of doubts that that's going in the history textbooks for the next century considering i'm sure some very drunk Roman might have gone through the same ordeal with worse results. it's probably even documented somewhere like that guy (whose Twitter handle, since this is an important detail, is or was @grawly).
@Ijneb1248 >*BLEGH* THAT FUPA THOUGH LMAO LOOK AT HIS BEANIE >ethan about to say something insensitive or racist cuz he is that out of touch" >this episode was brought to you by insert sponsor >raises eyebrows while reading questions off a preproduced google doc this mans never was good we were just immature anyone besides reddit moved on ehtan isnt funny whatsoever
Eh, I find some of H3’s old reaction videos to actually be pretty great. I really hated the videos where they kinda just scraped the bottom of the barrel with all of those buzzfeed-level feminist videos (that even actual feminists hated) because they just stated the obvious and didn’t say anything actually tangible about them. I don’t listen to the podcast so idk
@Charlotte Dawkins Agree. I love (and still love) his "Gamer Gear" episode. The actual gamer gear video he's making fun of is weird enough on its own to where Ethan is really able to mock it and have fun without seeming like he was just reacting.
@Ijneb1248 yeah, since then they became so arrogant and out of touch... it's a shame, for someone like Ethan who was SO on point with the community become SO out of touch.
cabroni peppperonie Ethan’s sense of humor is below average but his comedic editing skills are masterful which is why his videos are way more successful than his long form podcast
It's a really nice touch putting in Bojack Horseman's intro in the beginning of the video. Also, thank god someone finally shed light that Content Cop is not the only thing that killed Leafy
YouTube is fucking broken. Nothing in my comment should have been a censored term, yet the algorithm will censor me. The culprit seems to be the 2015 timeline sentence.
Throughout this video, with the things you where mentioning, I saw Leafy as despicable, and thought he deserved his fate, after watching the whole thing (which was super well made by the way) I feel sympathetic for the guy, he was like all of us in that, he just wanted a little bit of fame, and was doing anything for it, though his quick rise killed him off just as quick, a shame, especially since (as said at the end of this video) Leafy literally had the power to change YouTube not only forever, but for the better, and he didn't, and he never realized just what he truly was capable of pulling off until the trigger had been pulled.
They do show similarities. Who knows, maybe from this recent trend a new leafy may rise from the Fortnite trend. Perhaps Youtube is too self aware or proactive to allow another leafy to rise. Or maybe we just don't know another ingenious way to bypass its content restrictions. Time will tell.
Jack Ryan if that happens I'll be watching and paying attention to see how it all goes down. Maybe it can happen with fortnite or with a new trend that could be on the horizen.(it might just be me but I think that for fortnite is dying now or is beginning to die out do you feel the same.)
Yan's Videos thanks man now i know I'm not alone. The reason why I think this is because I don't see it popping up on my notifications like you used to also the typical views for certain fortnite channels from what I seen are not as high like they were a couple of months ago. But I think that this is kind of fitting because this is how long that pubg lasted during its pic of Fame. So maybe soon a new trend might be on the horizon we will just have to wait and see.
Fortnite holds minimal sustenance and low potential due to a lack of originality and depth. It cant stand on its own without extreme propulsion in its trending status.
gum phord fortnite could hold more substance if there were more added to it and battle royal is just a mode not a full game so it can't last as long as the Minecraft craze did.
Eric Johnson In adding layers of complexity epic risks losing their casual fan base, where the majority of their profit lies. They know their only riding a trend, but they'll milk every last cent.
In Leafy's latest twitch livestream someone asked him about this video and he replied "I haven't seen it but I hear it's like a documentary on me? And that sounds sick as fuck." So, he hasn't seen it yet but it sounds like he's heard good things and digs the idea. Today his stream covered Keemstar and H3H3's drama over the past 3 years, using BlowBlax's video as a source. Now that he's starting to give his thoughts on content like that, maybe one day he'll react to this documentary, here's hoping.
MAJOR EDIT: He then said, "Maybe next stream I'll just watch that."
@dr He started watching it last stream but he got interupted by a phone call from Keemstar and immediately just started that. Said that he'll do it next stream.
@dr he didn't do it in the next stream. instead he just immediately went back into his drama with H3H3 since BlowBlax did a vid covering people's responses to H3H3's bizarre "Disturbing" tweet.
@Come On Fhqwhgads Dude I just finished watching his reaction to the vid and like, I think it's fascinating. In some points it was very frustrating, but in other points I think his input was interesting. I think there were some parts where, predictably, he wasn't a fan of them? But overall he was happy with the video and said that he thought it was extremely well made. So, cool shit.
I think the thing I loved the most was how Leafy's attitude towards the video took drastic shifts throughout. That was fun to see. Sometimes he was like "This video aged incredibly well" at other times he was clearly tilted by some of the things said. Overall I think that seeing Leafy's reaction to the restrospect on his channel, and the opinions he has on it, is bizarrely the best closing to my viewership of Leafy. Wish him luck with his Twitch channel but I think I'm going to move on to something else now.
I'm one of what I imagine to be many people commenting about how I'm rewatching this video in wake of Leafy's termination. I really feel the need to say, you predicted so much about what has happened it's kinda scary. You painted a clear picture of YouTube really having it out for Leafy, and I think what happened now was their end goal. They hated that he got popular, they hated that he came back after 3 years and still got views. They probably said to themselves when Leafy stopped uploading "Oh hey, the problem solved itself!" And when he came back, they said, like Yzma in Emperor's New Groove, "HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!!" I can understand his lengthy series of videos on Pokimaine being perceived by YouTube as "creator on creator harassment" especially given the nature of his style, but the fact that all the strikes came at once really lends affirmation to everything you said about YouTube's role in ending Leafy. And I say this as someone who was never a fan of Leafy, who always saw him as just some douche who made stupid roast videos. It's kind of like how I remember feeling when YouTube updated their harassment policy at the end of last year. I felt like it was made to justify everything you talked about that they were doing to Leafy, and setting up the termination end goal. You predicted all of this.
This is one of a number of reasons why I admire the fuck out of you. I can't imagine anyone else (other than maybe The Right Opinion) going into this much detail and painting such a compelling narrative about something like this and it holding up 2 years later. And along with the follow-up to this video among other videos of yours, it's taught me more about YouTube than any other source. I can't say enough how glad I am that a video like this exists. It not only gives me major nostalgia for the last great era of YouTube, but it's expertly edited, well narrated, and teaches so much about how YouTube works and the mentality of youtubers like this. It's one of the most excellent videos on this site, and along with a handful of other videos of yours, cements you as being one of my favorite youtubers.
Hopefully Leafy's termination doesn't set an unfair precedent for opinion-based content on this site where we see more and more channels getting shut down. Hopefully the precedent it does set is people getting shut down that truly deserve it (like a certain onion). Hopefully Leafy can come back either through appealing or starting fresh, and he can exercise some self-reflection and figure out what to do differently and where to go from here. If not, I wish him the best, even as someone that never liked him.
The thing is, when Leafy came back, after a few shitposting he started uploading videos just talking, and stuff about how he made 100K before youtube, and about economics and whatnot, something I would never expect from someone like Leafy. Ultimately, those were uploaded side by side with his video on Pokimane, which is what ultimately got him banned, but I think it's clear that he was warming up to the idea of just talking what was on his mind, about his business outside of YouTube, and far more interesting than what he was known to upload.
I believe his fan base is the reason he got terminated. He came back on the platform with a different attitude. His commentary was drastically different than it was 3 years ago. Every commentary channel has problems with their viewers going from their videos on whomever and attacking that said person. Yes I think leafy has more of these fans than other channels but because they have followed him from his old content and aren’t off springs of his new content. I was happy to see the change in him and his channel. I think it’s unfortunate his fan base made him unable to “exist in the landscape today”
I honestly always thought Leafy would just fade away. Then he suddenly emerged again and then was directly murdered in the least subtle way. Perfect ending.
This theory about leafy being the 1st youtuber that experienced demonetization and youtube taking out leafy covered by the content cop, it makes a lot of sense now that they sniped him in 2020 without a simple strike or warning, they didnt want that guy rise again with his nerfed version of leafyishere(2016), they dont want drama and comentary channels but its funny because the beauty community is much more worse than the comentary one, and it's been proven with the latest events that happened in these 2 last years, but i guess that the beauty community just moves much more money, and everyone knows that's good for youtube lol
Yo Emp, an addendum on this would be super cool considering Leafy’s subsequent resurgence and straight up deletion this year. None of us could have predicted how wild 2020 would be, huh?
I find this crazy, when this video first came out, I was curious if searching his name actually worked, it didn't, his name never showed up, once this video was a few weeks old I tried it again, and all of a sudden, it worked, almost to directly counter this videos evidence. But now, once leafy came back, YouTube completely deleted his channel
5:45 Watching this video now reminds me of how bizarre Minecraft's reputation is; Minecraft started out as the biggest game ever, but at the time of this video's upload, it was really only played by little kids for years, as everyone else moved on and saw it as a joke, only for it to all go full circle when Minecraft was revived just a year later.
so after this video leafy not only managed to come back, but was terminated a short while ago. and all of that after he was deemed dead for years. damn
@Maxwell Thomas he was after my time, but yeah I think I'd have found him fucking irritating even when I hadn't ruined 4chan for myself with the realisation that people weren't being ironic
Leafy got banned because he made 13 videos making fun of pokimane. I don't know what leafy you were watching, calling him a hero is far off. He died with a bunch of obsessed toxic sheep for a fanbase surrounding a mountain of shitty, unfunny content, with a bunch of mediocre at best attempts to make fun of people sprinkled in.
@Thrasher146 correction. he made 13 with her as clickbait, in which he proceeded to talk about stocks and maybe mention the woman herself in passing but only made fun of her fans
@行屍走肉 he started making videos again in like mid-early 2020, he sorta redeemed himself in that he started beating down on big youtubers and stuff rather than kids, then youtube finally thunked him out one last time. He’s still chilling on Twitter tho lol
@Thrasher146 Bro this is exactly the problem, people are spreading misinformation like wildfire. Leafy made 13 videos on pokimane and only 3 or 4 were actually about the drama surrounding her. The other 10 were about stocks, debt and life advice. Leafy didn't do anything to get permabanned without warning. Dont present things as fact if you dont know what you're talking about
@Matt Thompson I have to ask, have actually watched his newer content? You sound like you are hating on him due to his reputation rather than his actual new content.
Leafy changed dude. He mellowed out a ton over the years and his 13 or so videos on Poki? 3 of them were about her. The rest was clickbait where he talks about life advice, debt, and his business out of youtube. Then youtube came in and fcking smited him out of the sky.
@I do not know you "and his 13 or so videos on Poki? 3 of them were about her" - Well, that's enough for a channel termination and to prove he was still a moron. Also, if someone used my face in 13 of their videos as clickbait, I'd definitely consider that harassment.
Also Keemstar spiked up because he's never made any allusions to being a good person, Youtube couldn't kill Keem if they tried, if they perma banned him, he'd just setup shop elsewhere, what he does fills a vaccuum that everyone else kinda blows at filling, even still.
You can criticize him, but it doesn't impact his reputation at all, because it's just "Yeah? And?" ultimately, he really only dipped down because of subscriber loyalty being a thing unfortunately.
They did an In The Field episode about YTP but agreed. If they like, combined their resources to create a super documentary on something, that would be awesome.
Rewatching this with the Perspective of the “future” it’s a very interesting video to revisit and the leafy comeback and subsequent ban puts this vid in a new interesting light
Also Leafy wasn't responsible for the actions of his fans, he really wasn't and isn't. If you need to tell people not to do something in the first place, they were already going to do it to begin with.
This idea is one that asserts that someone loses all individuality the moment they start getting popular, that, because a ton of people idolize and adore them, something they chose to do to begin with, said person no longer can do certain things, this being a rule that applies only to the popular due to the absolute myth that the popular people have to be role models.
You could say "Oh well, where do we get them" but i'll argue that if you need other people as role models, you need to take a look inward and ask yourself why you can't think for yourself, it's exactly that simple, though that's a take people will personally take offense to, or find personal disagreement with.
At the end of the day, everyone is capable of self-determination, many just opt to hand that responsibility arbitrarily to other people, which is the root cause of outrage culture, this idea that you can't control yourself, and so others must change for your positive well being to be ensured.
I will say though, it ABSOLUTELY was still fucked up, his fans really should've thought more than two seconds before attacking people because of a video, even when i was 12, i was a better person, age is no excuse for bad behavior as 2016-now has taught us that age has absolutely nothing to do with maturity, what matters is opportunity for growth, and too many choose to ignore those opportunities.
I know this is a pretty old video and with Leafy's return, he's proven himself more so as a rather different person than he used to be, so the arguments in this vid have probably changed in your mind, or at least you wouldn't use some of them on him today. I just wanted to mention this, it's a conclusion I've recently made thanks to Leafy's termination drama and who knows, maybe you'll get some value out of this, whoever reads this, all i want to say is, Thank you, and i hope you have a nice day.
Leafy’s rise and downfall is a remake of the Breaking Bad franchise where the protagonist became a innocent person but then turns into a villain and gets consumed by greediness and as a result of it, turns his friends into his enemies or a distant relative, and at the end is defeated and thus remembered as a legendary figure
10 million dollars. 7 years after school. if that isn't a success story. that is definitely a legendary way to go. he doesn't have to work ever again. if he invests it right or could just lay around and retire early. 100,000 for 100 years that's not half bad.
Damn, what a throwback. I subbed to him when he was just transitioning from that short "storytime" phase he had to the cringeroasting stuff. It was all great fun, when you said you had to admit he was very entertaining at the time, I feel you so hard. What can I say, it was perfect for my edgy teenage self. I stuck with him through the H3 stuff, and also the Content cop, although I really felt Idubbz had him by the balls. I think I stopped watching Leafy about a month later, not because of CC, but because he had become stale and uninteresting. I do still like his clones today though, Pyro really turned it around and he's better than ever now imo. Even NFKRZ is still around kinda. Anyways, good video, really took me baack!
Also (sorry for comment spam) I legit have never gotten Leafy vids in my recommended after 2016, i mean to be fair i totally won't now that they gassed him, but you know what i mean
Wow. Serious one of the best things I’ve ever seen on this website. So comprehensive and insanely well done. I remember 2016 well, I was a massive fan of the commentary community and this was a major trip down memory lane. I am kinda nostalgic for that year. I wasn’t a reptilian per se (I was more of a diehard Pyro fan at the time) but I still watched my fair share of Leafy and he had a place. I miss his dumb fake giveaway jokes at the end of videos.
After watching this...I wonder what would happen now if he came back with a clean slate and created less toxic content. Would youtube (the people in charge of it) and his old friends still suppress him? Would he gain popularity again or keep losing it? Leafy, if you're out there, and you're somehow reading this, I think it would be worth a try. Humans have a natural instinct to forgive, given the right amount of time to do so.
I have to admit Emp, your style of commentaries and fact based evidence are what I look for in a good video. I really appreciate your take on things from the INSIDE, mostly bc you've been here longer than any of us. I just want to thank you, and can't wait for more!
TheProDude cause the Paul's fan base are a bunch of little kids, who won't die anytime soon. and leafy was a meme with a bunch of edgy followers... then he meme died and the followers moved on
TheProDude the Paul's are a cash cow, they are making YouTube tons of money. so naturally they are gonna go with the money. it's scummy but ya cant blame youtube, who wouldn't wanna make a ton of money
EmpLemon's theory is that people like the Paul bros and RiceCum paint a picture of wealth and glory and that's what YouTube wants to depict the website as, so as to appeal more to viewers. Leafy was some bum in a room with mediocre equipment who didn't sell a rich lifestyle full of bitches, hoes, and supercars. He didn't fit the mold YouTube wants to sell.
i only stopped watching lefe cuz he stopped releasing content. i liked his style of ranting and found a lot of videos funny and saw many small channels. shame the more toxic fans bombarded all of them and this shit happened. the pauls are popular because of dumb trend fueled kids and the people coming for the cringe
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Your Neighbour2018-07-29 04:40:08 (edited 2018-07-29 04:42:13 )
TheProDude the Pauls are dogs on leash. Despite their 'maverick' branding, they will bend over to media pressure, and are easily controlled like a puppet.
Leafy wasn't as alerted as Pewdiepie, the latter was very aware of attempts to knock him off the charts, the former, never did.
I'm surprised internet historian wasn't in this video, the video is great all the same it just seemed like something he'd look into. Thanks for the top kek content lemon boi
To start with, I know that this is a civil comment section and 90% of the time errs on the side of reason and (un)common decency. I'm not being angry, vindictive, or trying to say "YOU'RE WRONG!" That being said, I want to know how exactly you reached the conclusion that you're not allowed to swear anymore on Youtube. I know dozens of examples from recent videos that contradict this hypothesis. And no, Youtube's "Family Friendly" policy does not count, seeing as how its enforcement is about as tight as the arguments from that one guy who tried to brand me as a pedophile over cartoon horses.
@Chris Bartek We'll see. Promote is most likely a strong word. Especially considering I've heard nothing of this from the drama community hivemind which despises ethan, you are damn near certainly stretching the truth.
@Chris Bartek I'm not here to defend ethan mate. I'm just saying that he hasn't been banned off the platform. That is literally all I'm saying mate. There is really nothing else for you to add her.
@Lazzle Dazzle "Your silence is deafening." hahahaha. I think this guy is just trying to blame you for his tinnitus. You can't argue with stupid. Cheers
Im totally with you on that conspiracy. The only reason why is the fact they wouldn't come out with the truth and when it came out they knew what was going on and it wasn't just a glitch and the whole blacklisted system was found they had too fix it so people wouldn't start something they couldn't win.. do you know what would happen if you went too leafy with this video? He would sue.. because they made him go under. If you did the same to a company they would go bankrupt.. just remember a monopoly is a bad thing
While I definitely do see your point in how youtube has been censoring "unwanted" videos and may have helped in the death of Leafy, I think that the Content Cop on Leafy did have a massive impact because of the audience overlap between idubbbz and Leafy, as both channels at the time appealed to the "edgy teen" demographic and I can speak from experience as I was a part of both of their fanbases and only began to realize Leafy's more negative aspects after seeing the Content Cop.
chiken YouTube always been manipulative as fuck. They instantly took down the Asian Jake Paul content cop but when they realised it was about RiceGum (Rice is similar to Leafy for roasting) then the video came back up. The ElsaGate problems has been there for years in the commentary community but after like 2 years when it got so big that big YouTubers talked about it s YouTube got so much hate that they started losing money over these creepy Elsegate channels so they took the channels down. Before Elsagate there was this chain of pedofilia group that made a chain of borderline child pr0n by making playlists called young girls dancing (lots of the videos were not even dancing videos) and also naming videos "Webcam video from 02/11/11" something like that and people reported it to YouTube for so long and they never did something about it because these pedos gave these borderline pr0n videos lots of views and that means lots of money for YouTube. Once a big YouTuber adressed it, idk which one I think H3H3. More people started hating youtube for it and again they started losing money and guess what, the pedo videos are gone. There is way more corrupt shit YouTube does, they are one big propaganda.
Although I was never a leafy fan (didn't even hear of him till after he left YouTube), I'm glad in a way that he didn't try and adapt. He was who he was. In an era when so many people bend to the wishes of society, I think the world needs more individuals who will just be the person they choose to be, whether or not it leads to a successful life in the eyes of others.
you have to remember Ian purposely made the content cop on leafy like a leafy video. The way he was just really bullying people and repeating the same shit. The content cop on leafy was almost like a Leafy parody video. But a lot better.
I wouldn't call it bullying for various reasons. 1) You can just turn off your phone or PC. So it's a style of "bullying" that requires you to either be terminally stupid, or so vain you can't walk away. Especially with block functions. 2) He did have a disclaimer telling people not to do that, but it's not like he was mind controlling them. They were going to do it regardless of what he said. That's on them, not him. 3) Leafy in a way gave rise to the era that NOTHING was beyond criticism, no matter what or who it is. This is a glorious thing other YouTubers have taken the torch. 4) If the worst thing in your life is someone talking about your malformed chin, you're in a golden place and should be fucking happy that you're not in a worse state. All that said, the content cop was good. I didn't stop watching leafy though, I had to go out of my way to find his videos, and I did. Edgy teenage time and all that. I would happily watch leafy videos if he returned tbh. I'm a toxic reptile with no fucking shame.
dude what you're saying is dumb. 1) it's still bullying. you can spin it all you want. you can try to deflect it all you want. But it will always be bullying. someone shouldn't have to purposely go away to not get bullied. "ohhh if you're getting bullied in school, just dont go to school." or "ohh you dont want to get kicked when going to the park trying to play like everybody. Just don't go to there." It's a ridiculous argument and leafy will always be a bully. And a cyber bully to be specific. 2) you're right. leafy couldn't control his fans. and his cancerous fans were gonna do it anyways. But that's what you get when you create a cancerous community with very very toxic behaviour. Leafy's videos almost always had a very toxic edgy feel to it. And this attracted toxic people. 3) Leafy didn't start this BY FAR. there were dozens if not hundreds of youtube personalities exactly like that. Even h3h3 was waaaay ahead of that. Also i can't really call leafy's videos critical. because most of the time leafy just called someone a name. I don't call his video on tommy(the autistic guy) very "critical". It just, again, cyber bullying calling someone names. 4) you REALLY think ian made fun of leafy's chin, in a very very repeating manner, because he couldn't think of other things? fucking lol. like i said in my previous comment. Ian was making fun of leafy's video style. The repeating of dumb shit trying to make fun of someone. You're forgetting how Ian made fun of how clearly insecure and how much of a bitch leafy was. Which is really ironic for a bully. Ian didn't try criticize all his cancerous content(which he still did) because everyone already did so. like ian said "today we get to bully leafy".
>You can just turn off your phone or PC. So it's a style of "bullying" that requires you to either be terminally stupid, or so vain you can't walk away.
As a wise man once put it long ago, "Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha"
Subbed to Leafy around his 200k mark, after being "recruited" into the reptilian brotherhood as a cringey 14 year old. Looking back I remember missing a lot of his videos near the end because YouTube never notified me, and eventually I lost interest because checking his channel all the time became a chore, it having little to do with content cop. Your analysis definitely checks out. A very interesting watch, definitely brings me back
I miss the dank era of YouTube, allowed to swear and do edgy things. Now, because of demonetisation, it's all capitalist manufactured Douchetubers; all because bowl cut mothers got triggered.
the dank era was one of the best for the internet itself. but it does due to one 7 year old in 2016 telling his mom what a meme was. there will never EVER be another era, time, or age on the internet like it.
@Brat Bud Because the concept of capitalism is a free market with no intervention. Censorship is an intervention that directly interferes with said free market.
@the gas man Pretty sure that wasn't a joke played for a meme. Seems like a pretty genuine comment. Also, calling your opposition names will never win you an argument. But don't take my word for it.
@Anonymous AJ That's not capitalism, as long as the means of production are dedicated to make profit and are not owned by the state it is capitalism, censorship can still happen
@Anonymous AJ yeah, but that's reality. In reality capitalism is exploiting and slaving billions (not just for work, but to buy their products) and pretty much killing the Earth
You could honestly make a feature-length documentary about YouTube in 2016. Although you actually covered a decent chunk of it in this video, it's still quite intriguing how so much in the way of drama and commentary channels happened in a relatively short amount of time.
Leafy reminds me of the mongolian empire, spreading fast and far but ultimitely expanding too far, and eventually collapsing. Or even a star that got so big it eventually collapsed into a black hole
Chase SaysHi Conversely, to me it feels like it all happened yesterday. 2017 just feels like it didn't happen. Squeezing an entire year into what feels like an hour's worth of memory. It's so surreal and odd.
I had like 15 minutes of free time so I decided that I will look at some youtube videos..
I click on this one... and after 5 minutes i accidentally press space on my keyboard which leads to the video to pause. And I see that I've been watching for 40 minutes.
One of the most legitimately entertaining content creators on the site. I don’t know how emp is still at under 300K. YouTube poops carry an unfortunate stigma. This turns off some viewers I believe, combined with the YouTube censorship of many of Emps videos through the demonization algorithm works against emp. Only channels that are extremely normie friendly can explode on YouTube anymore. No more filthy franks or idubbz will emerge naturally. Hopefully emp can buck this trend this new content is extremely promising.
LISTEN BRO. I DONT KNOW IF YOUR GONNA SEE THIS COMMENT. BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST AND WELL MADE YOUTUBE VIDEOS I HAVE EVERY WATCHED. LIKE DEADASS. I WASNT EXPECTING TO WATCH A 50 MIN VIDEO BUT I DID THIS WAS 10/10.
I feel like the further it gets in history, the more YouTube will just seem like a weird place and a really weird time. It's definitely the start of another big era in human history, even if it's hard to see what the era is yet. But along the way, I'll be fucked if it isn't the strangest human circus I've ever seen
I can actually attest to that. I started watching Leafy around the Jacob Satorious' Sweatshirt video. I started to get board of his videos around the fourth Keem rant, but didn't completely realize it until the content cop rage. I guess I was a bandwagoner, which I regret in retrospect, but Leafy's public opinion definitely was affected by Content Cop. I now greatly miss that period in YouTube, and it sucks to no we aren't ever getting anything like that back.
Slurpwis I also agree. I watched his content regularly, and overtime I started to find it bland and kinda repetitive. Finally I saw the content cop and stopped watching.
I binge watch his old videos almost every week, I honestly loved watching him rip apart cancerous content on YouTube and I still have the bell turned on hoping for a miracle
Slurpwis I honestly think it was Leady’s own fault, building a toxic audience that are so vicious they will attack and destroy anyone, so when leafy showed weakness in the face of idubbbz, they turned on him and ate him alive, but the brain dead fans stayed behind, who you can still see pining and screaming for him on his channel today.
@Phrax yeah but everyone already knew how leafy was like. Nothing idubbz said shined a new light. Same with ricegum. Everything idubbz "exposed" all the fans already knew. The hate came from idubbz fans at least %95
Slurpwis That’s one of the reasons I left. But for me, it just got stale. His insults starting becoming uninteresting at best, and being a bully at worst. He just got bland, and lost what made him unique.
Slurpwis yea, I remember around when the onision v leafy stuff was going down I went from being an onion fan to being a leafy fan, but I watched his old videos when he was actually kind of funny, and when I went forward to watch his more recent videos he was like. Not funny, and I had gotten kind of tired of it like you’re saying. It was entertaining while it lasted though
I'm absolutely in love with the production quality of all your videos dude, I can't imagine the hell you have to go through with all this editing. tbh we need more content creators that put solid effort into making videos as polished and cleanly produced as your channel
I would love to see Leafy try and exist in today's current landscape, like the content that he was making would never fly on YouTube today, and you have to adapt and overcome the fact that like, you can't even curse now like I dont know.
19:50 I don't know why it was so funny to me to hear leafy say what's up. But that's just one of the many instances of your amazing editing and comedic timing Emp, keep up the great work! :)
I hope that a mistake of this scale doesn't happen again. It's so monumental that we only know 2 instances of such monumental mistakes: 1. Titanic 2. LeafyIsHere
I-I would love- People saying, "Oh Leafy come back." I would LOVE to see Leafy come back and try to exist in the landscape today. The content he was making would NEVER fly on YouTube today and you have to adapt and overcome the fact that... You can't even curse bro.
I hated his old content, his new content was better and had some decent variety, including economic advice. Still mean spirited, but was at least aimed towards other youtubers and streamers who are professionals. Actually liked some of those videos
I think he was honestly right. Leafy just got terminated, I think it’s pretty clear YouTube still hates him. By the looks of it they were already messing with with him when he came back. His videos made it in trending but got removed, he’s had multiple videos taken down. Emo was spot on with this one, they are straight up done with him. I highly doubt they’ll let him come back. Well have to see though
2015: "This was a time when channels like FilthyFrank were at their cultural peak, and getting away with videos that pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable on YouTube."
2020: *YouTube takes down Hair Cake and Human Cake.*
It's pretty odd seeing how Leafy evolved, fell down hard, attempted to get back up by taking advantage of the reddit shitheads raging about simps, but ultimately fell back down into irrelevancy. Hate on IDubbbz, Leafy and this comment all you guys want, but let's kinda face things for a second... Reddit has become an epidemic
34:23 In fact, Content Cop was not supposed to be a "YouTuber killer" but it was to be a sort of measure to make those channels mentioned to make better content, not to kill the channels after all
EDIT: The differente between Leafy and Keemstar is that Keem sort of "learned from his mistakes"
damn this vid almost made me sad for a byegone era. like... being 13 and getting really excited whenever leafy posted a new vid, and talking about youtube drama with my friends in the back of class... it was such a simpler time back then
@Freidheim of Krolastern Yep, Ethan was right, and anyone with common sense could've seen this coming a mile away. Leafy's style of content can't exist in youtube anymore.
I've watched so much Bojack horseman. During the begining before the song really came to the foreground I already felt a sense of excitement and an equal sense of dread.
31:39 look at the top right: "ANIME HAS OFFICIALLY DOOMED THE PLANET EARTH" I'm just gonna throw in that he's the reason which started my weeb lifestyle. Of course how I've got from Leafy to anime insipirations is a bit complex, but he got me there in the first place. I'll never forget him for that reason. Also, I never really hated Leafy with a passion. I was a long time viewer when iDubbz' video dropped. I held off watching it for a while but then felt like I had to watch it after Leafy's response video. Yeah sure, I disliked him for a few weeks, but I was/(am?) sad that it has killed his channel. If he'd stayed consistent with his uploads, I could see myself watching his videos, even to this day.
And 2 years later Minecraft is relevant and Leafy is returning... Strange Times
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Not FLAZ2020-07-13 00:03:33 (edited 2020-07-13 00:04:11 )
Everyone saying "this aged badly" just because leafy returned just dont know that eventually hell just die again after a few months. Its still the same content as 2016. People just want to believe that hes back just to pretend its 2016 "the good ol days".
Just wait till that high stops then hes gonna quit again. Unless he changes his shit up, which I doubt
dude his new content is just trolling he doesn't even take it serious at all anymore he also said he did all of those things back then for views and money and thats all he cared about and plus its been 4 months and he's still able to reach 1M views in every video sometimes even 2M
Ain't this guy back? Pokimane is his new target. I hope you aint a tier 3 sub. Yo great video just needed to be about 20 min shorter. You good though homeboy real talk. This coming from someone who don't like these kinda videos or anything on YouTube really. Thanks for the video. I know it's not easy producing shit like this.
@Piyush Ghildiyal nah, he's way too big to die plus leafy isn't dead, as soon as he started uploading again he got viewers. In my thinking you can't kill a channel once it's famous, you just can't.
@Xoraxus ya I have watched his content series on pokiman. But recently carry has doubled his subscribers. And most of them are not his loyal fan... They have subscribed because he bash tiktokers. I think he can be cancelled easily... Hmm dank rishu content chowkidaar 😁😁😁😁
And leafy hasn't changed at all in his comeback, he is still holding a grudge against someone who made fun of their chin like 3 years ago. It's pretty fucking sad.
@HLA 0302 It's pretty obvious that he does if you look at the fact that in one his new videos he played the victim card again, and tried to act like he was a vulnerable victim in the idubbbz situation.
you have to admit, ricegum was killed from the content cop. following the content cop, ricegum's analytics showed a dying channel. millions of subs, but quarter of a million views, at max. then he just kinda got forgotten for a few years, and now he is returning, but without a doubt, iddubz definitely had ricegum dead for a few years
Such a nicely researched video. I didn't even watch other "Why leafy is dead" sort of videos but I bet they weren't as thorough as the one Mr.EmpLomon served to us. It makes me so confused to see such poorly edited video (low-quality images with jpeg artifacts and softness) feels so good, in fact, better than a video with extensive animations and whatnot, which taught me a very valuable lesson which I already knew but have never actually seen with such presentation, and that is, better animations != better video. Was completely worth spending almost an hour on...
The Widow's Son I see what you mean but considering you have the lele pons and Jake pauls who use screaming as "comedy". having YouTubers who are more calm and laid back are more of my preference
I miss him. I used to come home from school every day and watch him. It would make me feel good to think that even though he was troubled, he got through it all with jokes kinda like I did. He was truly there when no one else was when I was stupidly depressed. He influenced me highly, and now he’s gone. It sucks.
Tax Doctor - If kids are being loud and 'obnoxious' you ask them to quiet down. You don't gather your friends and 'go f*** with them' because they are wearing leafy merch. Unless you want to be a bully...
I don't know what the female AP is, but I'm glad to hear you had more reason than you initially stated. The way you presented the story, what you were doing sounded pretty terrible!
I had been a leafy fan for a few months, after a while I started noticing I was enjoying his videos less and less. The content cop showed me why I was getting bored of leafy while showing me actually entertaining content. That was my (and probably plenty of others) switch from leafy to IDubbbzTV.
As one of those people that subscribed to Leafy during his rise in early 2016, this was a really eye-opening (and wonderfully produced) video. Like many others I was drawn into his unique 'commentary over video game footage' style and found it very easy to listen to while multitasking. And like many others, I became disillusioned with Leafy as soon as he became incredibly toxic and got involved with all the Youtube drama.
In the end, his fall was caused by his own hand (conspiracy theories notwithstanding) and the era of personal commentary he led is now in the dustbin of Internet history. But your video reminded me of what made me subscribe to him in the first place, and the lessons to be learnt from becoming famous too fast. And for that, you have earned my subscription :)
P.S. I can see one LeafyisHere video in the recommended list, so maybe Youtube screwed up this time?
Even iDubbbz openly states that Content Cop isn't meant to kill channels, but rather explain their flaws. Of course, no one listens to him outside of his criticism and normally believes his work to be a channel killer.
It's more or less people being idiots and not fully understanding what iDubbbz says.
Amazing video, I would certainly be open to more videos like this. They are a great analysis of YouTube's history.
Josh Van Even though edups didn't intend to destroy his channel, I think his CC on him was nonetheless a big factor in his decline. Because it was so damn brutal and funny many people couldn't help but take it to the extreme and actively shun Leafys channel in favor of idubbbz and other similar channels with higher quality
Im just soooo amazed, bro, you made me stay the whole video, i just cant explain u, but u are so fucking awesome, idk bro, THIS IS REAL QUALITY CONTENT GUYS!!so sad the end, leafy could succesfully be someone else on these days, but like u said, 20 years old, he was 2 young and inmature, srry 4 my bad english tho, great video!!!
Idiot confession : When Minecraft YouTube first started, I actually said to friends : 'Minecraft is great, but, it's a personal experience; Not many people are going to want to watch other people dig and build stuff.' Probably one of my most blatantly incorrect assumptions ever.
But I think it might partially be true, if you look at the popular Minecraft YouTubers, they are almost all comedic personalities that appeal to the 8-13 year old kids that were watching them for entertainment, and now that those kids have grown up, and Fortnite is the new Minecraft, their channels are dying. But people like Jeracraft, who are more focused on the advanced building part of the game (rather than just comedy/commentary) are still doing fairly well. I think this is because they have a more mature/focused audience who are playing not playing Minecraft because it's the hot new thing, but because they genuinely like the game, and improving their skill at it.
OH MY GOODNESS! I absolutely adore this video from start to finish! Very informative and very engaging. I always wondered where Leafy went to after a while. One minute he was here and everyone was talking about him and the next he was just gone. Thanks for this!
An EmpLemon Commentary with an intriguing topic? With TF2/ CS:GO references? And BGM from DOOM, Gorillaz and even the Adult Swim theme? Oh, this is like a present on Christmas Day.
thelivingmonkey They all have interesting premises. Yet personally, I think the topic of this video is greater that MeiAIDS because we see the rise and fall of a really controversial creator, while MeiAIDS was more mysterious and elusive
This is an amazing video. I feel like no matter what Leafy is and will always be one if the most influential youtuber and was a genius. If youtube was the cause of his death, then that even adds to his influence where the big company wanted him gone. And yeah, 2015-2016 was the peak of youtube. I always wondered when youtube started to decline and how it is now, it seems like after leafy’s decline. That period of time I feel like Leafy defined youtube since nearly all the big channels revolved around him.
39:00 Just want to point out: Jake Paul absolutely saved Keemstar in mid July 2017. He is the reason that Keemstar broke 3 million subs. Jake Paul's insane antics those few weeks gave all the young users a reason to sub to Keem because he was delivering the juicy stories fast and furious. Every single day something new was happening and Keem was on the top of his game covering it. I agree that Leafy was suppressed by youtube, but to say that Keem "inexplicably" gained so many subs during that time is completely false. Otherwise amazing video as usual!
theVHSvlog honestly I even subbed back to keem during all the Jake Paul content with him and also keem was friends with Alissa Violet and clout gang so we wanted their side of this
Jake Paul didn't save keemstar, keemstar was doing great months before that, he got a lot of views and support. The Jake Paul stories just helped him get even more views and subs. He was good off without him
Jacob Thomas keem was falling in 2016, because of Grade A, and leafy, a lot of other commentary channels jumped on the band wagon and started bashing him as well. Pyro being really the only one who had a legitimate reason to make an expose video on him. Later idubbbz, in late 2016, made a content cop on leafy, which lead to him starting to gently fall from grace like a feather, grade A at the time was being a little bitch, and people started realizing grade's points in his videos weren't researched, and he started attacking people who just didn't deserve it. Then early 2017 was the whole heywatchyourmouth expose video on leafy, where it showed that grade and leafy lied about Keem, just so they could separate themselves, that's when both their channels fell, they no longer make videos anymore.
Heywatchyourmouth made people realize leafy and grade were wrong? Nope, wrong again, leafy and grade were falling before that, because people realized they lied about keem, and because of idubbbz's content cop.
For real though, this was a great watch. My only exposure to Leafy was through Content Cop so it's been fascinating to see him through a more sympathetic light.
This has to be one of my favorite videos on the internet, this video kept me on the edge of my seat the whole way through, not to mention the editing is spectacular, amazing job
That's actually a really interesting theory you have there about him being the first victim of demonetization and everything.
If that's true, I feel bad for Leafy. He should've died by his own accord, and its terribly fucked up that YT would put him down without him burying his own career.
I miss leafy personally, his content was like 90 Percent sarcasm, and 10 percent real talk. It may have been a little bit cancerous but i enjoyed him ragging on people who deserved it.
Damn, when I saw how long this video was I almost ignored it, but once I started it I watched the whole thing without a single pause. Excellent job my man.
What an insightful look at Leafy... I hate to admit it, but I could never look at him as the victim until this video... Thanks for an actually mind boggling 50 minutes of watch
For those who want one; here’s a timeline that summarizes Leafy’s career: October 2011 - Leafy creates his account. May 2012 - Leafy’s account, then dedicated to Minecraft, begins to grow in popularity. November 2012 - Leafy’s account gains 9,000 subscribers. July 2013 - Minecraft loses it’s popularity. August 2013 - Leafy’s account begins to halt in growth, November 2013 - The first video still on the account is uploaded. April 2014 - The last surviving Minecraft video is uploaded to Leafy’s account. November 2014 - The first commentary video is uploaded to Leafy’s account. February 2015 - Leafy begins trying to find a new style. March 2015 - Leafy starts using the commentary style more. April 2015 - Leafy begins his KIDS THAT ARE TOXIC series. July 2015 - Leafy’s channel begins to boom in popularity. August 2015 - Leafy begins his KIDS THAT YOUTUBE series, August 2015 - Leafy’s account becomes even more popular, reaching 100,000 subscribers. August 2015 - Leafy makes references to the hiss meme. August 2015 - The his meme becomes popular. September 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 200,000 subscribers. October 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 300,000 subscribers. November 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 400,000 subscribers. November 2015 - Leafy begins going after specific individuals. December 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 500,000 subscribers. January 2016 - Leafy falls into controversy after making fun of MrBlackDarkness666. January 2016 - A Wikitubia article is made on Leafy. January 2016 - MrBlackDarkness places a “curse” on Leafy. January 2016 The two (sort of) settle their dispute. February 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 1,000,000 subscribers. March 2016 - Leafy makes fun of an autistic man. March 2016 - The same man releases statements about received death threats. March 2016 - H3H3Prodictions shares his thoughts on the situation. March 2016 - Leafy apologizes and acknowledges his mistakes. March 2016 - Leafy begins to break his friendship with H3H3Productions. April 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 2,000,000 subscribers. April 2016 - Leafy uploaded his most popular video to date. May 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 3,000,000 subscribers. May 2016 - Leafy unlists, then re-lists his video on Leafy. June 2016 - Leafy breaks his friendship with Keemstar. July 2016 - Leafy’s account is hacked by PoodleCorp. September 2016 - Leafy is critiqued by IDubbz. October 2016 - Leafy’s account begins to decline. July 2017 - Leafy’s nude pictures are leaked to the public. July 2017 - Leafy’s account reaches 1,000,000,000 views. December 2017 - Leafy abandons his account.
Feb 2016- 1 million subscribers April 2016- 2 million subscribers May 2016- 3 million subscribers
Those numbers are insane! I didn't realize just how fast he shot up in such a small period of time. It makes his eventual downfall and departure even more difficult to comprehend.
ImmaLittlePip i wouldn't say absolutely everyone's forgotten about the controversy, some sjws are still shaken up by it to this day (i know this because i'm close with the normalboots/hiddenblock community)
hannah Oh I know Sjws hated Jontron since 2014 and when he went on to sargon stream Also is the normalboots and hidden block community composed of sjws? I know pbg tends to lean far left but damn
Kyu Myu Gave his Opinions even if they were controversial Though since Destiny runs with the sjw crowd they are fans of that Pedro Manlet they ran with the "Jontron is a secret Nazi" narrative Which you can tell they wanted to do ever since he went on Sargon of Akkads live stream bashing sjws
I'll say this I think most people remember Jontron for his time on game grumps and his flex tape videos than they do a controversy that lasted for 3 months. When he uploaded his vanilla ice video everyone moved on and remembered him as a comedian
Pewdiepie is one the best examples of this. One of the best redemption arcs in Youtube history. I'm pretty sure the entire controversy revolving around him has only boosted his numbers and reputation. I'm not sure about Jon though, but it does seem like his videos still get views in the millions. He probably just needs to upload more
@Aldrich_Leblanc On what authority are 'random people' like John Tron 'too egotistical' to be allowed a perspective on a complex social issue, without 'exposing themselves to be a fool?' Do they have to be an agenda pushing lobbyist, or a member of the 5 corporations, or any one of its millions of derivatives that own the overwhelming majority of the media? Or better yet, do I have to not be a 'dissenter?'
ImmaLittlePip I think one of the main reason behind the huge backlash of Jon being on Sargon's stream is whiplash some felt in his character Like Jon was generally view as an overall clean, nice and wholesome guy but then hes hanging out with someone like Sargon who is at best a complete idiot or at worst an intellectually dishonest dirt bag
Lol its a bit idiotic to attribute all the hatred to sjws. What, can't come to terms with the fact that some people genuinely lost respect for him because of the stupid shit he said?
sebastian feijoo I mean, he's neither of those things (you may strongly disagree with his stances), and everyone was accusing him of associating with a Nazi or a right-winger, Sargon being neither of those.
seg162 I mean in contrast to what was percived of him during his time on Game Grumps and on his channel. Also there was that time where Sargon invited one of the main organizers of the Charlottesville protest to his stream so he could basically spew his propaganda about how that woman actually die of a heart attack instead of being ranned over, while also laughting about it Sargon Isn't far-right, but he sure is their useful idiot
Pewdiepie's pivot from being YouTube's golden boy to the people's champion was damn impressive. It kind of symbolized the way people in general felt about YouTube.
@Cid Luneth There's no actual controversy around him. It was manufactured outrage by the media. None of his viewers were offended, and that's why he's fine.
Emp, this was your best video by far. I was planning on leaving a long comment with many points and many explanations for each point, but it turns out I get fewer likes on long comments than people who just say stuff like ”This video is great” without any points or explanations what so ever. And it’s happening to me on literally every channel, not just here so... This video is extremely entertaining and thought out very well, I guess.
Also, can you please make a Youtube geographic video on GradeAUnderA? I never really understood what happened to him.
I know this is a long comment (I didn’t want this to be like this), but what I was thinking about writing would at least 3x times longer than this.
Phantom2524 Some rich boy under the disguise of a let's react persona made the big chin fall for his truck and made a absolute idiot out of him, especially when he created a video that manage to fool his subscribers. Grade A never recovered from that.
You know, of all the things to comment on, I have to give you props Lemon for the awesome soundtracks to your videos. The timing, quality and impact of the songs is always great.
The artistic aspect of those videos is astounding. From the editing to the music choices... It's a very original and consistent technique which I can only associate with you. It's like internet-nostalgia themed, and I absolutely love it. Also, script-wise, from the rants to the investigative videos like this, it is sublime. It's engaging, even with the longer duration. It's not over-the-top or annoying in the slightest, differently from 99% of YouTube today.
As someone who clearly understands internet culture and sees the true potential for study, investigation and, most importantly, engaging stories on the medium, you're the type of content creator YouTube most desperately needs today, and I'm really happy to see a video like this succeed. I will dare to call you underrated, not because you don't have one billion ghost subscribers, but mainly because I think this series should be something of a recognized staple of YouTube culture, fixed and propagated throughout this website, even though I know they would never allow it.
All in all, congratulations, this is a prime example of great content, hope you keep up developing your channel even further.
As a person who never really understood what it means that "Leafy is back", it's really helpful to find content like this that explains the nuance and depth of Youtube's history in a way that makes you appreciate even the villains' backstory as you glimpse a peak behind the curtain. Years from now, videos like these will be used to analyze our current culture. Also, no chin.
This is just a well made video. Didn’t think I would watch all 51 minutes, but damn this was well made. And I think you are right, YouTube killed him. They didn’t want that type of content on the site. Something else, you know how I found your channel? Because of a comment you made on a video.
The best thing that came from this video - I discovered who MrBlackDarkness is and I binge watched his videos for 2 hours last night and laughed the entire time. That dude is a fucking GEM.
I love these retrospectives and all the information provided is extremely well put together, but i keep noticing ways your editing could improve. I only say this as a creator that struggles to receive actual criticism, often times asking for it, but easing in and easing out your graphics rather than abrupt choppy movements that come to a sudden hault would improve your visuals a LOT. Takes more time to edit but if your goal is to improve these, then I think you may want to consider it. Otherwise you perform a lot of techniques I love, like the specific highlighting of certain areas of the screen while you dim the rest or when you find juuuust the right simpsons scene to illustrate your message. Awesome work overall, subbed and hungry for more.
Having not seen a Leafyishere video in my life, this is how I've actually learned what his channel is/was about and what the informed hate surrounding him had been about.
I love this video for obvious reasons (it's just very well made) but my favourite part is the editing and every once in a while I come back to that intro of LeafyIsBlazing. God, that entire sequence is genius. The comparison to cowboys and "be the first one to fire" cut to Idubbbz with his Content Cop. ICONIC.
I definitely agree with the YouTube theory, during his decline prior to the content cop, I almost NEVER saw his vids on recommended, even though I saw them all the time previously.
I was still subscribed to him up until today, as i watched this. Totally blows me away how youtube willingly made someone vanish the way they did! Smart move
Based on how YouTube is treating commentary channels in 2020, I think Emplemon's theory on how YouTube originally cancelled Leafy is starting to make sense.
Edit: I heard the news. Leafy's channel has been permanently terminated from YouTube.
@Lazzle Dazzle I understand getting demonetized to hell and back for his advertisement-unfriendly content, but straight up banning him without any prior strikes is absolutely unacceptable, and creates a precedent for any other content creator to get banned instantly without prior warning or strikes. This is bad. Like, really bad.
i never had hate from leafy, i just laughed because of things he said, he had a edgy humor that i liked, never watched h3 so i wont say much about him.
One time I had a dream that leafy made a video where he proposed to a Minecraft YouTuber in Minecraft and he rejected him. It eventually turned into a viral video and everyone was making fun of him
I think its pretty clear now that YT didn't shadowban leafy because many people have been getting leafy in their reccomendeds since he came back. Meaning content cop really did kill leafy.
@RMJ Leafy makes good content tbh I get to watch a calmer side of him when he's streaming in twitch and get to learn about him more. Plus his videos now are just trolling and messing around with H3H3 tbh its pretty funny
@RMJ You obviously didn't watch any of his new videos, and Irony is basically "it's funny because it is true" You either don't understand what irony is, or you just seek for attention, either way, You getting bad attention from everyone around, what do you want a cookie as an award?
Leafy had 4.83M subs before his channel got hidden by YT and he returned at 4.17M subs and as of the 5th August 2020 he has 4.85M subs. Any bleeding he once had has been successfully stopped and he's still growing.
"If you asked any observer at the time they would have probably told you that his channel was dead in the water. But no one could have guessed that his channel would become more alive than anyone ever thought possible." ROUND TWO BABY!
I know its late to point it out but commentary videos over unrelated gameplay was a huge deal back when Youtube just became big. Back then it was usually people ranting over COD.
How in the world does EmpLemon use all of the music I listen to in his songs. Just found out about doom two months ago and realized All Caps was in this video.
43:21 Objection! The LTT (Linus Tech Tips) channel subscribers is just as high as their highest viewed video despite them being favored by the algorithm.
interesting side note to this video. I remember watching it and checking in on leafys channel to see that he had returned to making content, i didnt think he would so i subscribed to be sure to keep up on it, and along rewatching the video, i again checked back because i hadnt even seen a video from him show up in my sub box, and somehow, i was unsubscribed from him, not the first instant of people being unsubbed, but still odd.
How in the world does EmpLemon use all of the music I listen to in his songs. Just found out about doom two months ago and realized All Caps was in this video.
Just a little thingy i wanted to add. I did not receive any Leafy videos in my recommended untill after his comeback wich is strange seeing that i have only watched about 2-3 videos by him before the content cop. Now i get every new Leafy video recommended🤔
Alot of talk about captain sparklez in this video, what EmpLemon seems to forget is that the only reason captain sparklez channel blew up was because of Seananners.
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Obama bin Laden2020-05-19 18:53:34 (edited 2020-05-19 18:56:04 )
leafy: makes chanel and dose minecraft minecraft:dies out leafy becomes amazing leafy:dies minecraft a few years later: SUP BITCHES AM BACK leafy: i am kinda back
This actually makes me feel really bad for Leafy, and also teaches me not to walk through his tracks. Great video btw, you really do genuinely inspire me tbh
YouTube is indeed legally allowed to censor creators. HOWEVER. If they're found to have monitored and censored videos which hadn't been flagged, that could legally make them a publisher, making them responsible for any potential lawbreaking happening on the site.
While I agree with that, I believe that the people who have been serious back bones in this fight against youtube's tyranny, like finding out the rating system for advertisers, and the active censoring that was promised to be a myth. I really believe if we banded together we might just get enough dirt on them to make a legitimate court case... and can you imagine all the big power house content creators raising awareness and money for a lawsuit against youtube... they'd probably shit bricks as a company.
Fun fact: leafys second channel (leafyisnthere) icon was used w/o credit and was drawn by a minor (my close friend). however they're kind of ashamed that they Ever did fanart of him so they don't wish to be named anymore. HOWEVER they did email him like 3 times and left comments on his videos asking for at least credit to no avail.
yep! but wishes not to be named (the dA account shown is their side account for stuff they dont want associated w/ their main account, like shitposts) cus they don't want their rise to popularity to be LEAFY drama. if my friend wants to come forward however, i have sent them a link to this comment if they wanna reply themselves. hope u understand!
That was one of the best YouTube videos I ever watched. This was so well put together and it brought me back to my good ol days of being a reptilian. Also amazing job at putting the whole story of leafy "together"
Ive watched youtube content my whole life, but i didnt really regularly consume content on here till just a little after the content cop. I watch shitloads of commentary YouTube vids, and IVE NEVER, NOT ONCE seen a leafy vid reccomended to me. Ive never even seen a video of his, it was like he was a phantom, honestly at first i thought he'd deleted his channel outright, but this makes so much more sense.
Your best Youtube Geographic and one of the best videos you have EVER made. I can't believe it's 2 am in the morning, this was just very captivating in a plethora of ways. I'm very glad your channel is just a gift that keeps on giving.
I love the tree life cycle images at the beginning of each chapter. Excellent touch. I also like how this wasn't just another history and bashing of a toxic youtuber. You showed sympathy and even related your own rise to fame on the site. Because at the end of the day, he's still a human like the rest of us. and when humans get power too suddenly and without an idea of what to do with it, this happens
If you want to see Leafy’s content in a more light hearted way just watch his 21st birthday video. He basically does what Pewds is doing right now by reacting to his community and he is pretty damn good at it. I’d love for him to come back and create some positive videos like that.
No, if the time to make and edit this video was put into some low-effort vlogs, then they would be a lot more views... It really sucks that the actually good content on YouTube is pushed to the bottom by videos that take a hundredth of the time to make.
Every thing is the same we as human beings can't evolve Jake paul did the same shady shit leafy is heare did and you can also build in fortnite just like minecraft
The good old days of youtube were like 2009, 2010. Best YTP era, creative users, defined culture, not too big for its own good. No Google. The worst thing around was probably Fred or Annoying orange
Was the jewish caricature really necessary at 27:58 ? Maybe I am wrong and it's not, but if I'm not, that's antisemitic my dude. Uncool. Great video otherwsie
hoooly shit the amount of effort you put in your videos is insane! you are a role model to every youtuber out there. i've never actually seen someone this humble on this site, keep up the work man, good luck in the future
Just wanted to say that this was a great video, very thorough, informative, presented in an unbiased way, and quite entertaining! I’m not too familiar with leafy and thought I’d watch about 5-10 minutes just to get a basic idea of who he is, but you had my attention right through to the end. You have a real talent. I especially like how you presented everything without a bunch of negativity or being over dramatic; you didn’t treat him like a hero nor did you demonize him. Not sure why I watched this other than vague curiosity....but I’m glad I did!
i remember ALL of this unfolding back in 2016. i used to be an epic edgy keklord and watched all these videos. after the very first h3 video i quit watching leafy, though. its so wild how this era of youtube is dead when everyone was obsessed with it, thank god it is.
If it wasnt for Leafy, i would have never got into Youtube. I will always have a sad nostalgic love for Leafy. I started watching him in late 2015 and followed till the inevitable end i knew was coming. Thank you for this video.
Maybe the drama was just fun. Maybe we prefer the Leafy era simply because he was more vulnerable. The Paul’s are basically untouchable because YouTube is really catering to them (even though they are arguably worse than Leafy).
But Twitter is a small crack of hope (probably because I saw Jake block someone once but still).
You probably forgot then that Leafy was a borderline cyberbully while the Paulers are vloggers and when they actually do insult other people they say it in a joking way thats funny in itself. Watch KSI vs Jake Paul on that stage video. Im sure KSI isn't too offended when Jake paul is yelling WALMAART (I don't watch Pauls and all my info on them are from pewdiepie vids)
If leafy didn’t quit and continued uploading I feel like his views and subs would keep going down. If he ever came back I feel like his numbers would start blowing up again because so many people that hated him or stopped watching him realized how much they missed him now that it’s been over a year since he last uploaded
I have to agree. Honestly though, even if he came back it would just start the war all over again. We need a new Leafy to rise up while still paying tribute to the original... What if we could get a new Leafy, but they could reference him semi-often and link his channel? That way we get a new Leafy, and Leafy himself could possibly get a sub spike large enough to get his attention?
Not really though. Its not that controversial that he agrees with his girlfriend sharing lewds for money. The entire controversy is people calling him a cuck and a simp. And its literally not his fault she's behaved in weird/inappropriate ways.
Leafy was the only reason I checked YouTube so often, His edgy rants were just too funny, And the drama that came with it was just hilarious.
I was never part of his reptile army but you cant deny that it made the site far more interesting.
It is kinda sad that YouTube killed his channel, when I was still subbed his videos were never recommended, his channel was unfindable. If that block wasn't on his channel he would have undoubtedly hit close to 10M today.
@You Reply You Gay all right fine, your right statistically. However, Emplemon treated it as if Minecraft would never recover its popularity which as it appears through out 2016 to 2018 Minecraft’s popularity has gone down a curve, but ever since May of last year (Minecraft’s 10th anniversary) it has been recovering into popularity. Sure it’s not as popular than before, but you cannot deny it is recovering.
@XXMODZ HAXSXX Yeah Leafy even admitted the main reason he quit wasn't ridicule or haters, it was his videos having shit performance and youtube giving him a hard time
Leafy being back isn't inherently bad. His toxic fanbase sorta mellowed out. You still get some dickheads, but that goes for every fanbase. The drama that will come of this will certainly be entertaining.
i feel like youtube is censoring you bro. your spitting straight facts and getting millions of views. this is the first time ive seen this video. 2 years later
Wow... I can't believe I only found this video now. It took YT 2 years to get this recommended to me. This is one of my favorite videos of all time because it's so analytical and I grew up during this time of YT. This video so so amazing. Adding it to my fav/best TY video playlist.
Even though he definitely was out of the bubble when all of the YouTube drama transpired, I would've loved to see you talk about Cr1tikal, who similarly went from gaming to edgy commentary
What I don’t understand is that now he’s come back to youtube everyone started calling him a king and being so happy he was back.. like wtf you hated him when he was here but now you suddenly think he was the best YouTube to exist??
It's because a lot of people grew up with his videos. We didn't like him because others didn't or others liked him but there voices weren't loud enough. I think most people that are happy he is back are people who miss the days of YouTube where you didn't have to worry about what you were saying as much, when it comes to the platform/ads not the people. You also didn't have to worry about being demonitized for one small thing. When YouTube was for the people.
Now YouTube is against the people, you can't make mature content because you won't get money, and now you can't make family friendly content because you won't get as much money and your comments are disabled. The way Leafy plays into this is his demeanor he acts like he doesn't care because he doesn't, he "hates" his viewers and YouTube. He probably doesn't actually hate his viewers but he definitely does hate where YouTube is and people agree.
His return which who knows if he'll actually stay or not, was "calculated" as many say. When in reality it was just an opportunity for him to make a quick video to jump on the bandwagon.
Whether people liked Leafy before or not is irrelevant because a lot of people seen him or knew something about him and now to said people he kind of represents the disdain towards YouTube many have.
I will say personally I watched him while growing up and can say that in a way YouTube during the days of Leafy was better, not because of Leafy, but because the platform itself was better.
Leafy is much more down to earth now. I never liked his videos back in 2016, I'm more of a pyrocynical guy. But I love his recent videos, he sounds very calm and he doesn't stretch
Yes, the systems of Youtube did and to a lesser extent do still promote toxic content. But, I do still think that they should be condemned for their toxicity and harm.
I honestly watched leafy until he stopped posting and I had to go to his account directly to even know he posted anything. I can definitely see the truth in this.
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Loe and Behold2020-04-24 02:31:08 (edited 2020-04-24 02:32:30 )
Actually, i was subbed to leafy and i do remember towards the end of his channel, i would check on his channel and see several videos uploaded that i hadn't seen due to it not being recommended. Damn, your theory might be true!
It's like he had such a nice and good pit pup to care for, but instead he taught it bad behavior and pretty much turned it into a face eating machine, then threw his hands up, like, "Wup! I have no control of this face eating machine! What am I to do??" I don't know, maybe he could've changed his ways that turned his beautiful pit into a face eating machine, but no. He never altered his behavior. Basically comes back with a "no u" comeback, like what?
You know, it’s sad. So many commentary channels make their rise on criticism of others. They grow their popularity fast, and eventually are taken down by a new, up and coming commentary channel. It’s and endless cycle of rises to power, and destruction.
The mighty have fallen. H3H3....idubbbz....and from the ashes rises the once notorious juggernaut we all thought died. Welcome back leafy, you are finally here.
Funny how suddenly everyone is back on Leafys side. Like Idubbbz making one mistake suddenly justifies all of Leafys shitty behaviour and makes Idubbbz criticisms suddenly invalid.
Eh i like to see youtube dramas like wrestling idubbz and ethan turned heel and now act holier than thou and leafy sorta came back after a hiatus and is niw seen as a face despite being an asshole, kinda like the rock vs. Stone cold steve austin
In recent knews he has started uploading again after 2 years, all new videos haveing around 3 million views. Still within his sub base and not outreaching.
15:02 So nasty that it's probably somewhat of a travesty having me Daily told the people "You can call me Your Majesty!" Keep your battery charged You know it won't stick, yo And it's not his fault you kick slow Should've let your trick 'ho chick hold your sick glow Plus nobody couldn't do nothin' once he let the brick go And you know I know that's a bunch of snow The beat is so butter Peep the slow cutter As he utter the calm flow (Your mother) Don't talk about my moms, yo Sometimes he rhyme quick, sometimes he rhyme slow Or vice versa Whip up a slice of nice verse pie Hit it on the first try Villain: the worst guy Spot hot tracks like spot a pair of fat asses Shots of the scotch from out of square shot glasses And he won't stop 'til he got the masses And show 'em what they know not through flows of hot molasses Do it like the robot to headspin to boogaloo Took a few minutes to convince the average bug-a-boo It's ugly, like look at you It's a damn shame Just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name
It’s so weird watching this video again now knowing that captain sparkles made a resurrection of sorts and leafy has started uploading small 3 minute videos again.
At the very least, idubbbz causes channels to change. Tana went on to team up with Jake Paul, FineBros had to back off their copyright thing. Leafy and the prank guy could not adapt. Also specifically on leafy, his fan base looked to top dog, and the content cop showed be was not and it was easy for his fans to turn on him.
Alright i didn't watch this video i just watched the intro, and personally i was subscribed to leafy when he had 10k subscribers and i stop supporting him because he completely change with fame
When I first heard the gran turismo background music I was like: do I know this song? Why does it make me feel nostalgic? When I checked the songs list and saw that it was from gran turismo I had my entire childhood rush back into my head. Gg on the music choice.
Leafyishere is a great mystery a kid who wanted to be like someone famous and he took youtube like a game but he should take it more serious and he should have learnd from people like pyrocynical or elvisthe alien but he didnt know how to be a normal youtuber which got him viral and dead
Idubbz video couldn’t have killed him. It was mostly focused on his physical appearance and didn’t talk much h abs out why his channel was so bad so fans who watched it wouldn’t have been like ‘oh he has no chin, unsubscribe’
I'm just about to start the video. I wonder if I'll be as invested in this as much as I was invested in the Hungrybox video. (Started with no context for both)
Okay, i'm back, and i am equally invested. Probably won't get into youtube drama videos, as i got into some smash bros videos. But we all just gotta respect the Emp in his production and content creation process. All of it. God
And here we are now. Minecraft has reclaimed its popularity amongst the average YouTube users, with all the youtubers who stuck with it reaping the fame, and Leafy made a short comeback, all just to call Idubbbz a simp.
I distinctly remember watching a few of his videos back in 2013-2014 when he was at about 15k or so... but i never stuck with him because his MCPVP stuff wasnt the type i liked to watch, but he was one of the larger MCPVP youtubers, even with 15k. Then i forgot about him for awhile, and thought he faded into obscurity just like the rest of them. I was wrong. After over a year, i started seeing drama with this big youtuber with a familiar name, but that was it. I checked through his videos and found no minecraft content, but then heard a reference to his past in another video about him. Boom, we got our suspect. That was one of the coolest encounters ever on youtube, it really is such a huge place with millions of channels... but someones one will do something crazy like this- and im glad to say i was there for pretty much all of it.
I remember around when the HISS stuff showed up was when I found leafy. I thought some of his stuff was funny enough, and so every night when I went to bed I would crawl under the covers with my phone, watch his daily upload, and then go to sleep. I didn't pay much attention to the drama, and I wasn't a rabid fan, harassing the youtubers he roasted (or even looking up their content). I've suffered from mental illness since I was young; something about how he would have these harsh, emotional reactions to fairly benign content was comforting to me. Kind of like how tennis balls in a dryer keep clothes from getting wadded together, his yelling would get my mind unwadded enough to sleep. Eventually, life changed, my going-to-sleep routine changed, and I stopped watching. At some point, peer pressure got me to unsubscribe, but I'll check in on his channel occasionally. If he ever does come back, I'll be curious to see just what we get.
You know, you actually kinda made me feel bad for Leafy, I wouldn't say I ever hated him or disliked him really, more of indifference.. but now after watching this whole thing you do kind of have to feel for him and almost feel for anyone else who has tried to make it big on this platform. I know for me for years I felt the same way to try to be big, got 100+ subs on my first channel at the age of 14, eventually after not uploading for a while, I knew that my videos weren't getting views so thinking I would have been better off made a new channel.. desperately trying to get that fame, even making random group channels with friends that only lasted for a couple months. But now that I hit the age of 18 almost 19 I've kinda realized that the fame isn't always going to be there or even close. I still make videos every once in a while.. not really trying to become famous, but because I love to work with video and making thumbnails. I just wish I had something better to do videos on then video games..maybe one day.
This comment was actually suppose to start out about just Leafy haha, but some how I dived into how I feel and stuff. If anyone did actually read this thanks for reading and have a great day!
Yee Olde Duck! Anyone trying to get big online should know the risks attached to it. Feeling bad for him is pointless. He knew what he was getting into and he simply gave no fucks. Consequences followed.
I do feel the same. I've had this same account since the end of 2014 and i never got a decent following so i just decided to upload on it when i felt like it.
HOWEVER, what i haven't told in this comment is that i do have a 2nd channel that actually has a more decent amount of views on it. I started it in mid 2016 and i uploaded android app APKs/Hacks and some pc hacks. As of now, the channel has 231k views and 585 subscribers. Some videos have around 1k, 5 others have 10k-100k and about half of the other videos have 100-300 views so it was a hit or miss. I realized in late 2017 that it was the ridiculously easy and low effort way of getting attention, so i practically stopped other than except for a couple more uploads that came after that.
I also got like 3-4 copyright strikes (obviously i did, i was posting hacks) so i just decided that it wasn't worth it, and I've learnt my lesson.
You told this story very well, good job on this video. If there's one thing I've learned from you is that you should consider what would happen after you become famous. Shame leafy ended like this. He could have been one who could be a visual dream come true to show everyone that it is possible to reach fame. He shouldn't have converted to the church of cringe like this.
Just as you've pivoted from YTP to more commentary based content, I hope you keep pivoting! As long as you keep employing your ytp editing techiniques every now and again, I think you'll just keep rising and doing well on this platform. Really enjoy all your content!
Wow, an hour. Somehow i felt it was over too soon. I used to love leafy, then not so much, then again, and then i didnt care anymore. Its crazy to see what happened. Like, just like the people who he made videos on, he was a real guy. I wonder if he's doing alright for himself.
He may have been the toxic and annoying kid we will all remember him by, but he was just a content creator trying to make it big in the game. Of course the end of the video will make you feel sympathetic for him; he was just doing what he can to get noticed. And unfortunately, his own newfound power is what killed him in the end.
Not really. 20 is young, but he's still an adult, and it's certainly old enough to know that making fun of children (and in most cases autistic people) on the internet is pathetic. He had months where people tried to snap him out of it, and teach him that what he's doing was nasty and self-destructive, but he just ignored it all because he liked being vile to people. And everyone else is only gonna put up with that for so long. Dude needed to learn he can't play in the kiddie pool forever.
Let's be real, he fuckin' knew. He went out of his way to rip on people who acted/seemed autistic. He went for people who acted 'weird' or 'cringe', people who were intense over specific 'cringe' interests, and were obviously socially impaired. We know in the case of that one dude because he actually replied to leafy and his fans while most didn't, but if you went through the a list of everyone leafy made fun of for cheap laughs, you'd find a lot more autistic/aspergers/whatever. It was his main demographic to pick on, because he knew his fanbase found picking on autistic people fun. He used autistic as an insult. He was a little shit and he never grew out of being a little shit.
Here's what I think: Whether or not he was sincere about what he put out, I don't know. But he found out what worked, and he ran with it. His cynical, edgy attitude towards most things resonated with youtubes biggest demographic: teenage boys. I found the sweet spot and milked that shit. Despite the warnings, despite the criticisms, he kept on. It got him views and subs, honestly what young man wouldn't keep on?
Addy White you’re right, the saddest part for me I suppose is that he’s built up a fan base, as annoying as they are, and just left them with no warning, no goodbye and no reason, just disappeared. I do hope he is well too
Most of the stuff he reacted to was from r/cringe on Reddit. Did he do his research on the people in the videos? No. Did he pay for it? Yes. Did he learn from it? Kind of.
yeah this is by far my fav video of his, i had never thought of the statement that leafy achieved everyone's dream, becoming a big youtuber, then not knowing how to handle it. but that's fucking deep
Leafy was, well, it’s hard to say. There were a lot of channels who have died out and fell into the darkness. But leafy’s case is one of the most unique in the history of youtube. Leafy’s rise and fall is a really deep metaphor if you think about it. I really pity him after watching this. I used to be a part of the brainless edgy teens who watched him. Then I realized all the shady and cruel methods he used to get to where he is. Then I realized how bad his content actually was. I guess it can be used as a metaphor for how power can go in the wrong hands. Leafy had a lot of potential. But he let it slip, and blew it. And he only realized until it was too late.
Brilliant. Absolutely Brilliant. I used to watch Leafy back in the day until i, myself, noticed that he began uploading the same Individually targeted content over and over again. Sooner or later, i got bored of it, eventually unsubscribing to him and never returning to his channel again. 2 years have since surpassed and I'd never imagine that any of these things would occur the way they did. Then again, you could say he deserved it. I have to say, this video has single-handedly brought so much light and has answered so many of my questions regarding Leafy and his past that it absolutely mesmerizes me. You Sir, have done a fantastic job and i don't think it could have been put together any better. Thank you for that.
I think the most interesting aspect of Leafy's downfall is that Pyrocynical and NFKRZ to not go down with him. They were smart enough to diversify their content.
Calvin_Coolage Exactly. Pyrocynical especially. His channel has diversified heavily. From his less clickbaity videos, to his straight up gameplay videos, to his hour plus long videos on things like Petscop and Cuphead.
I think if Leafy had been confident enough to go facecam he would have survived, whenever he posted after the content cop his most popular vids were always facecams. I think he was just a shy kid.
As a former loyal fan (i would eat all the shit he would put out daily) i can say that for me it wasn't YouTube recommendations that stopped me from watching him, it was the lack of originality, quality, personality and most importantly entertainment. From what i remember i used to like his videos cause they were to me interesting and entertaining videos displaying some sort of humor and interesting internet personalities and trends, in the same vain as tosh.0, i even became attached to his "personality", but eventually his content became too stale to me, i don't even know if it was the content itself or if it was me who grew out of it but i started to perceive his content as just boring and pointless videos of a guy making obvious and exaggerated observations as an attempt at comedy while showing most of the time uninteresting videos, it came to the point where before i completely stopped watching his videos, i would have to put the video on 2x speed to improve the horrible pasting of the video, it would generally just be him making and constantly repeating unfunny comments to get the video to 10 mins and it got to the point where it was painfully unbarring to watch his videos even at 2x speed, i didn't got entertainment out of it, i didn't got knowledge out of them so it just felt like i was wasting my time watching them, at which point i just quit watching. There were and still are commentary type youtubers who i still watch and none of their content feels as lifeless as leafywashere's. In my opinion Leafy was the main culperate in the death of his channel by not adapting to make more vast content, having awfully stale editing and pacing and getting lazy, making uninspired and unentertaining videos.
P.S.- I was never one of those retards who would harass the people who he would make "content" on, even being a dumb edgy 16 yr old with horrible taste in content i knew better then to take time off my day to bully awkward and misfortunate people for the crime of posting a cringy video on the internet.
Exactly, basically if you've seen one leafyishere's video you've seen them all, it sucks the life out of you to sit through a multitude of his "content".
I found Leafy through Pyro and I found Pyro through h3 and I found h3 through Frank. I was one of those people who would leave the toxic comments on Leafy's victims.
vocalweeb You seem like you've matured out of that behavior since you can acknowledge it as toxic so i don't mean to judge, but why did you feel the need to do that?
I am so happy i subscribed to leafy from like, his early commentary videos, every video he made was very original and very funny for me, he also cured me from some depression cycles and helped me go on with my life at some points aswel (with other things aswel) I did get recommendations for his videos daily but I am so sad and emotional about this topic now, this shouldn't happen, leafy was a good part of youtube and I wish his life is good and happy and I wish him all the best
The guys behind PoodleCorp and Lizard Squad got arrested by FBI in Oct '16 due to various other shenanigans. The whole fiasco they caused also sensitized many people and companies to shield their assets more thoroughly against social engineering.
Wow. I thought this was gonna be a vid repeating everything we already knew about the situation, but instead it gives a very good insight on the legitimate cause of demise.
But I have to say.... Why no mention of the Nick Cash situation? I feel like that would have been a very good precursor to showing Leafy off as the snake he is, as a real person, and not just a persona of someone being a dick.
Incredible video. And I think it might have a point with YouTube targeting leafy specifically. After all, some very big youtubers that are still relevant today regularly get demonetized because they create controversies often. Given who leafy was, controversies were a given. However, as other commenters said, I think that doesn't explain alone how, for example, Keemstar is still alive and well. YouTube may have targeted him in particular, but if they also did that with Keemstar, you need to add other elements that probably caused his demise. The content cop, I think, may have sparked a lot of opposition and mockery that leafy never had to live through. Suddenly a lot of people, including very influential ones, were against him. He was attacked, mocked and ridiculed. Like many bullies, leafy doesn't like to be targeted himself and handles it very poorly, which he did. Everyone was giving him shit, his reputation was dirtied, and since he was no longer the all-powerful guy he was for a moment, he got frustrated and, not having the means to salvage his name, just left. Also, I get the point about the dude having been original and a breath of fresh air compared to other very similar looking channels on Youtube, but let's get real here : the air he brought with him smelled of a rotten basement, and his bullying and personal attacks on helpless dudes will not be missed.
I was a leafy sub back when he was active and i still sometimes watch his videos back (yes i have no life) since i just miss his sarcastic humor that i fcking loved. He just had the same opinion on so many cringy things then i had, what made him really sympathic for me.
I would definatly agree on your idea of what happed to leafy (that yt shutted him down) and i think i whittnest an even worse thing the fact that his videos never ever got recommended or popped up of you searced for his name.
At some point, youtube just stopped showing his videos in my subscriber box (is it called like that in english?).
I had no idea why this happend until i watched this video. Could it not also be some illuminati shit from youtube?
Btw this is worse than it sounds since this ment that I never got reminded from youtube that leafy exists in any case. The only way that I would watch a video from him was when i remembered him from myself and clicked on his chanel to look of there are new videos from him.
This made it really easy to forget to watch him even as a subscriber.
Due to the length of the video, I know that not many people will watch it full, but I’m about 30 minutes in and it’s a great video. Thanks for the research, Emp. You’re the channel this site needs.
I do firmly believe that everything you said about YouTube directly killing Leafys channel is true. Everytime I was 3 video in a row about a certain subject, all kinds of recommendations regarding it, but recently, I have been rewatching leafy videos and not a single one in my recommendations...
I mean he’s just gonna day the same thing everyone else says, that he’s a simp hahaha, how often did people call out leafy for a weak chin before idubbz, not many people, but idubbz is called a simp by everyone
Honestly I wouldn’t call it payback it lasted like a couple weeks and leafy is sucking off keemstar while iddubz is back to normal. Now no hate towards any of them I like iddubz and don’t mind leafy just my thoughts on all of this.
Wow, a guy who is comfortable in his gf pursuing a form of income without feeling insecure and understanding relationships are deeper than sexual experience is a "simp"? Y'all need to grow up or take a hard look at your own priorities. A relationship is much more than exclusively seeing their body and realistically, how could people idubbbz will never meet paying to see his gf in photos hurt him? From what I've heard - though I have never been on onlyfans to validate - she has not shown anything more than what you might see at a beach. If you can get paid for that and don't mind sharing it on the internet, why not do it? Furthermore, if the guy's in love, then good for him. Why should it bother any of you?
As for Leafy's video, it was highly pointed, providing snippets of info to form a singular narrative, failed to create an argument and was instead solely aimed at insulting idubbbz. For those of you who may have missed it, the point of Idubbbz original focus on insulting Leafy's lack of a chin was a satirical criticism of the childish and immature insults that make up the bulk of Leafy's content. All leafy showed in his response was his lack of growth and continuing insecurities masked with insults.
"true payback" lmao Idubbbz brushed that simp meme off like it's nothing. It never made any sense anyway. Leafy seem to be doubling down on his edge lord persona.
@GCNElite now he has 0 subs because youtube nuked his whole channel. its ridiculous that you have people like keemstar and the paul brothers who get a slap on the wrist for the stuff they did but leafy loses his whole channel.
If you're talking about Leafy coming back to call iDubbbz a cuck, that's not the real Leafy. Click on his Twitter profile. Go to his YouTube channel. Check his "About" section. It clearly says "PARODY" under his description. Leafyisgone forever.
TimeWarpDrive 77 his ass said in the description "okay last one" that fucking upset me. look I doubt he WONT make new shit but it won't last imo and it's sad. I'm one of those niggas in 2016 saying hiss to ppl 😭
@Tkoryam exactly the fools thought he would only make two now he's making stuff on almost a bidaily basis and 10 minutes fuck he is getting more powerful
In my opinion I agree with Criticalzer0, he's not a simp and if he's okay with his girlfriend selling her Instagram pictures for extra money that's fine. It's literately free cash. The area where Idubbbz failed is defending himself, hes awful. This does not mean that we should label him off a "meme" its mean and your ruining his career.
@Zandith Shloper The controversy finally helped people realize current idubbbz is a degenerated, coomer shadow of who we saw/knew back in 2016, which is why everyone is saying he's fallen. He and filthy frank and anything4views and the rest of the boys portrayed characters, the worst possible idols, Joji literally describes filthy frank as everything you should not be, and at least to me, it looked like they successfully stayed away from becoming those characters ( or at least pulling the plug before they became them like Joji.) Today though, a lot of idubbbz fans can't say the same for idubbbz.
@Low Tier Trash People that say Idubbbz would've made a content cop on her if she wasn't her girlfriend seem to not understand that that would be a horrible idea. Who the hell would watch a content cop on some chick that no one knows?
@Miraqen It's not just the only fans but Anisa's deceptive and controlling attitude towards idubbbz which idubbbz puts up with for some reason, that's partly why people lost respect for him. He made fun of people with the same amount of absurdity as he is right now, though this isn't the reason I stopped watching him since I'd already stopped watching him for a year and a half, maybe I'm just getting sick of idubbbz as a host. You are right about a lot of people using cuck and simp interchangeably though.
it's not a fall. it was a red-pilling of his audience how their views differed from his. they made the mistake that everyone who says "SJWs BAD!" is in favor of conservatism. they somehow forgot that many anti-SJWs used to be part of the Atheist community, which at its peak was highly against conservatism. and then broke apart, after Atheism plus, because they basically made the same mistake. they made the mistake that a common enemy means that there shouldn't be any differences among internal opinions.
Idubbbz really didn't do anything wrong, other than have an opinion people didn't agree with, making them ridicule him with a single insult that barely fit him.
Idubbbz is doing great, getting an average 2-4 million views per video. His content is evolving, it's increasing in quality, and it's super interesting. The simp/cuck meme had no effect, and it never made any sense in the first place. Those words have lost their original meanings at this point.
I totally agree with the hiding his videos conspiracy, I started watching alot of commentary a few months after the content cop came out and I never saw a single leafy video or videos talking about him.
Although this Video is 2 Years Old, I have to say, I really cant agree with the last part. I cant see how Leafy's end could be called a tragedy if what Heywatchyourmouth and Elvis the Alien's Video are true. And the theory about Leafy's Channel being manipulated by Youtube really doesnt seem true anymore, as now If you search for Leafy, you will find him immediately, why would they ever remove the "blacklist"? (Yes I know he couldnt have know that at the time that you would find him immediately when searching for him in 2020)
I love leafy alot, he been in my childhood a lot and I really love this person, I love every one of his videos, even tho some say today that its cringy or offensive, I think its just good! Only Normies don't like leafy, but fuck normies anyway Edit: The more and more I watch this video I actually wonder do you like leafy or you are another hater?
@Phoebe Aurum They are likely waiting to see if he is arrested on child grooming charges. Similar to how Jaystation's channel was demonetized once he was arrested on assault charges.
Btw, It is funny because, I am pretty sure irl all of those guys are like friends XD all the rants and stuff its just like a plaything for them, maybe at first it was serious when you make a rant on someone but after they just do it for views and fun lol
I think Leafy’s fan base just grew up or his content just wasn’t what they wanted anymore. Honestly his content was petty and a bit pathetic. He most appealed to youngens. I can’t see his content being relevant for their attention spans for very long. I sure there is a lot that goes in to it too.
People are like “he’s back” who cares let’s go back to the comment that Emp said Minecraft will never be as popular as it was back before 2013, Minecraft is experiencing a renaissance and boy was he wrong
I want to hear your thoughts and opinions on pyro nowadays, he's obviously in a much better place than a couple years ago. Is he the leafy that could have been?
he just uses self deprecation as a shield of criticism....his content isn't any better than a jacksepticeye video quality wise, yet people just praise him because "OMG HE''S SELF AWARE LOL THAT MEAN'S HE'S FUNNY" it's such broken logic....
Or, you know, humor is subjective (and when the fuck did logic have anything to do with finding someone or something funny)? But of course that didn't cross your mind, because that wouldn't mean, "IMMA ONE HUNNIT PASENT OBJERKTIVELY CORE-RECT!!1!"
Dave Mitch2018-07-03 10:20:21 (edited 2018-07-03 10:55:49 )
I was one of those that used to watch Leafy's content everyday simply because of the reasons you mentioned at the end. He wasn't some cookie-cutter pretty boy from Disney channel, he wasn't some foreign troll with an accent, he wasn't some rich youtuber flexing his wealth. He was none of the things that you usually associate popular youtubers with. He presented himself as your everyday "dork" with strong(if toxic at times) opinions and the bravery to speak his mind. Which is why it was so refreshing at the time, and probably why he rose quickly to fame. A similar trend happened with Ricegum. But in Rice's case, he learned to go after grown ups(mostly) and those more popular than him instead of kids or smaller channels. Plus, he cleverly harnessed power from the Jake Paul storm of 2016/2017 and was able to withstand the backlash from Content Cop while still growing massively.
And you're also right when you said that Leafy probably lost views because he never changed his content. I certainly lost interest because of that. Although initially interesting at first, there was only so much ranting about cringy kids or "weird people" that I could stand before the fatigue set in and I started avoiding his videos. But to be fair, I felt the same way about most of Pewdiepie's videos at the time, from whom I also unsubscribed(but now re-subscribed) because of stale and boring content.
Dude I totally believe your theory is correct. I remember trying to see the status of Leafy’s channel in mid November 2017, and looking for about 15 minutes before finding Leafy’s channel. It was so strange how difficult it was to find his channel, even when directly looking for it.
this is a really good video and it really got me thinking about something i hadn't since 2016, leafy!
i subscribed to Leafy in his rise, right before he hit 1M. i thought he was funny and i was captivated by his edgy humor because i was an edgy 14 year old. in the past, i didn't see his videos as the same old things or as bullying. they were all refreshing to me. looking back, they are pretty much copy and paste. i also thought he was cute mostly because of his edgyness and hair i guess so that furthered my bias. when the content cop came out, i was in that "phase" where i loved leafy, idubbz, and filthy frank as if they were gods so i thought it was just a joke and i didn't see his downfall at all until i saw his nudes of him and his gf leak.
i think a lot of his fans were like that. edgy teens who only think roasting and offensive things are funny that latch onto these youtubers. I think maybe they are what rose him to the top for a while. but i don't know
iTS jUst a tHeoRy!111!1!!11!
all in all, i loved this video. you made the whole history of leafy and his demise very clear and easy to understand. 2016 was definitely the most interesting year for youtube, thanks to leafy.
2016, a year when Youtubers whose vids were monetised didn’t make family friendly content to avoid demonetisation but did bc they wanted to entertain kids or were edgy and based around drama. If only we could experience that time again.
This was an amazing video, it’s so well made and interesting. Your theory actually makes a lot of sense. In fact I remember when I was in fifth grade Leafy started gaining a lot of popularity and kids in my grade told me about him, I got a few of his videos in my recommendations, but a few months later I never saw his videos anymore.
I think that leafys content cop was so impactful because him and idubbbz share the same viewers; the ricegum one had no effect, for example, because they share little to no viewers
You took the words exactly out of my mouth. The people who liked leafy also liked idubbbz's content so it peaked their interest. Many of ricegum's audience probably could not get behind the kind of content idubbbz made and thought he was just another hater so they wrote him off as one.
“Minecraft reaches its cultural peak, and would never again reach the same level of relevancy” 2019’s been weird, man. Minecraft is cool again, and I couldn’t be happier.
I think you just need to do what you love and not wanting to get famous, if people don't like it it's ok, you just gotta find what you love and do it, and maybe one day you will find a group of people who share your interests and find friends. I hate how fake and image obsessed youtube has become while before it was just people doing what they wanted to do for fun. Money changes everything I guess.
Aside from the documentary, which is well-researched and very, very entertaining, I really have to admire the music choice: it fits perfectly and gives off the best atmosphere for each segment. Great video overall!!
The tale of Leafyishere kind of reminds me of Adolf Hitler's rise to power in Germany, both of them started with nothing and both of them rose to fame and were motivated by something. And the both of them created an empire that would then be crushed by forces that were beyond their control, in the end both of them would die at the hands of their own hubris. Poetic is it not?
leafy is just nostaglia to me. He's one of the channels I actually knew right from the beginning ( mc days ). I remember his first ddos video and his comentaries.
stopped watching after idubbz but liek i kinda miss it. It's like an old game that brings good memories. u may play that game now and realize it's actually quite bad - but back in the day it was the shit
When i first saw your video, i was like : "Shit how dafuq can i spend 51 minutes of my life to see this ranting video ?"
But i watch anyway because Leafy is on the title
At the part the downfall of Leafy, i start to think :"Shit, this video must suppose to end here" but the twist that Content Cop actually didnt kill Leafy hit me back so hard that i have to watch the entire of the video
To your theory, in my opinion Leafy died because his fuel was YouTube drama, and YouTube drama was just becoming dead and irrelevant, especially since no more significant news or drama was happening. It was kinda becoming a big dead "meme". But it could have been partially because of what you said too.
I feel like content cop wasn't made to destroy bad content creators, its to teach them a lesson. If they don't change their content after content cop, they decline. so was the case with leafy, and how to, while people like tana and keem changed their egotistical douchbag personalities, so they were definitely taught a lesson.
Yep. Should have never became a company. Once they stop paying people, then maybe we'll get a genuine community again. Now, it's just wash-ups for money and people who actually use YouTube creatively and seriously are left underground. And for what? Money, and the chain-reaction of other popular apps dying and coming to this place to re-up.
@For The Honor of Grayskull Tiny issue, people that make a living off of YouTube will go.out of business, even independently owned channels that also.make good content.
@Jaylee Parsons Well lucky for them that I'm not apart of the Youtube team, making executive decisions. If it were me, YouTube should have never became a "job opportunity" to begin with. Anything to do with money will end up with corruption. People who depend on YouTube for income are on rocks anyway, since it isn't a reliable source (it can be taken away at any moment.) Although I agree that content creators should recieve some sort of reward for the hardship that they commit to, it shouldn't be openly available to everybody (at this point they aren't going to stop being a company; that would be dumb since YouTube is the most used social media outlet ever.)
@Jink Kefka I doubt youtube content would suck if people stopped getting paid. YouTube was fine a good few years ago when it wasn't a money-making machine. Now that's what people want so they'll do whatever they can to bring in the money bags. Of course not everybody is greedy/using this platform to survive, but the vast majority are and you can bet there's corruption. My thoughts are not impactful because YouTube isn't going to stop paying people, that would be stupid. I'm just saying that it should have never happened.
@Jink Kefka you know, you actually have a point there. I guess I'm just tired of seeing Jake and Logan Paul everywhere and not actually good content creators that deserve their limelight. There's so many channels that rush their content just so they can get some pay and that's just not good (i.e. five minute crafts). But alas, without motivation comes lack of... motivation. You right, you right.
The real takeaway from this story is that "YouTube friends" will always stab each other in the back. I am yet to hear of any major large YouTubers who have not yet done this. h3h3 is prime example. He started off as this chill, slightly edgy but not too edgy guy making comedy videos. Since he has knifed every single other person in the back and then used their metaphorical corpse to climb to the next ledge. Now he sits at the top of YouTube's ivory tower, with his videos about a certain recent pandemic now being recommended as "Trusted News Sources" and having videos making fun of him mysteriously getting deleted or demonetized.
So moral of the story kids: if you make it big, never trust anyone. They are all hyenas waiting for you to show weakness.
I have problems with h3h3, but there is a difference between stabbing someone in the back and disagreeing with them, something you don't seem to understand.
@Lazzle Dazzle disagreeing is one thing. It's another to criticise your Internet Friends, and then begin crying victim when they criticise you (see: the BetterHelp dumpster fire). That and going on to use your position with YouTube to remove criticism of you. The fact is he just simply uses people and discards them when they have no use. Like every other internet e-celebrity.
@Myne1001 This idea that he removed gokanaru's video is groundless bullshit, it's an alex jones level conspiracy with more holes than I can count, it got removed because it violated youtubes rules with guns and violence, I think it is a stupid rule from youtube, but I don't think h3 is some sort of evil fucking mastermind with complete control of youtube, and I don't think he took gokanaru's video down, the is baseless bullshit. In the betterhelp situation he was literally just saying that he didn't know about the shit the company was doing, stop getting pissed off for pewdiepie, someone who isn't pissed off.
I don't like everything ethan does or says, but you seem to be operating under guilty until proven innocent with ethan, I'm running on innocent until proven guilty, quite frankly I don't see a whole lot of a point in having a discussion considering we are operating on two entirely different mindsets.
My mum asked me some days ago "what happened to that Youtuber that you used to watch after school? The leafy something kid" and i said "he died". I watched this video today and I started crying. FFS.
I miss 2016 YouTube. The Filthy Four were practically in their prime, h3 had some of it's best videos (as well as early 2017), and there where videos for everyone to watch. For real, whenever the demonitizing started happening nothing was the same. The best youtubers became a shadow of their former selves. H3h3 is kinda dead, idubbbz is kinda dead, filthy frank and max quit theirs, and now new guys are rising. Ironic how the most hated youtubers are viners (ex. The Pauls, Lele Pons, too damn many) and how some of the new loved ones were viners too (ex. Cody Ko, Danny Gonzalez, Drew Gooden)
que in this: leafy is here is at the top of his game [upgrade] YouTube stabbed him in the neck like a goddamn cow in a butcher shop and then hid it meticulously by using the hate being generated around him [fuck go back] YouTube then decides to put worse people on top and proceeds to fuck everything up worse than it was [I SAID GO BACK]
Honestly he was never that bad, especially if the people he was “cyberbullying” were actually fucked up like a girl who defended hitler, a girl who had sex with dogs, a man who told kids to die, onision who recorded his sick wife instead of actually getting her help, the list is long...
Your editing and story-telling is fantastic, you kept me fully engaged for almost an hour. Great video.
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3 likespapa drew
0 likesThis is is a surprise, but a welcome one
3 likesI like how the songs and even sometimes the lyrics narrate the progress of the story
1 likeHello, Dr.Kevin!
0 likesIt’s the only YouTuber
0 likesDrew Gooden who are you talking to? You're the only channel, remember?
1 likeHey your here
0 likesDidn’t even notice that it was almost an hour long
0 likesMy boy Drewwww ♥️
1 like& I agree!
i just put it on 2x speed
0 likesHey, it's the road work ahead guy
1 likeA shirt that says pants
0 likesHey drew
0 likesDrew Gooden 💯
0 likesDrew Gooden I agree. I’ve been watching this whole video and have gone on other apps to text people a few times but I wanted to come back and watch more of the video.
1 likeisy I never thought about it that way. If we are the little stinkers then drew must be the big stinker.
0 likesTyler McCandless hahahah yeah
0 likesLove you Drew!!
0 likesHi! I love ur vids
0 likesSorry Drew, there's no road work ahead.
0 likesDrew Gooden oh its drew
0 likesI FUCKING LOVE YOU DREW
1 likewe are kevin
1 likeSeeing leafy channel when i used to watch every video the second it came out ode made me happy hes still amazing he just doesent like youtube anymore
0 likesDrew Gooden same
0 likesDrew Gooden holy shit this video is an hour long!
0 likesIt all conects
0 likesJimmySwagification hey drew love you man! Im glad to see your channel is still growing
0 likesIts like a documentary.
0 likeshis way that he structures his points is similar to what of a modern news source like vox what makes it so interesting what makes this a great channel definitely subbing :]
2 likesand I didn't even realize its almost an hour
0 likesI'm not exaggerating when I say this but I swear I thought this video was 15 minutes.
1 likeI agree
0 likesDrew Gooden on a leafyishere video? Uh yeah I sure hope it does
1 likeDrew Gooden drewwww
0 likesNice
0 likesThis is ripped strait off of a john bois video.
0 likesWe are the EmperorStinkers
0 likes+
0 likesI sure hope it does.
0 likesWow
0 likesLeafy has returnwe
1 likeHello there
0 likesLove to see what good taste Drew has
0 likesomg hi drewwe
0 likesyees beans
0 likesi was here
0 likesfacts I completely agree emplemon is starting to become one of my favorite youtubers no cap
0 likesUh, yeah, I sure hope it does!
0 likesSame. Person.
0 likesH
0 likes@Antitube A
1 likeSo to e
3 likes@zed_2ed ofc, who else?
0 likes@Tench r
0 likes@zed_2ed can't make a comeback bruh
0 likes@Tench ???
0 likesDREW GOODEN?!!?!??
0 likesWell that was unexpected
0 likesAren’t you the only youtuber?
2 likesDidnt expect to see you here
0 likesDanny has good opinions
1 likeWell look who it is, danny gonzalez him self.
1 likeoh hey guy
1 likeHi danny
0 likesOmg it’s Danny Gonzalez
0 likeswhats up danny
0 likesi love you
1 likeHi drew
0 likesEy
0 likesWoo
0 likesis it typically very hard to keep you engaged for almost an hour? I would think you clicked this video because you were already interested in the content, so kinda easy to get you attention. But emplemon does a tight story with new takeaways in an interesting manner.
0 likesDrew my boy
0 likesHeu Guy
0 likes@SUNSET Fuck Yea
0 likeshi danny
1 likehi dan
1 likeDrew I love you
0 likesWasnt expecting you hear
0 likesDrew!
0 likesDanny!!! how are you doing mr gonzales
0 likeswhoah! Crossover!
0 likesYo! Danny!
0 likes@NeoGaymplays ok
0 likesOh shit it’s you! Wow, big youtubers also watch YouTube videos. It’s like they’re regular people just the rest of us!
0 likese5tho
0 likesIt’s an hour long!? I only realised this 40 minutes in when I read your comment
0 likesHey guy
0 likesPoor Leafy, he could have used some advice my pappy used to tell me-
1593 likesChin up.
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Underrated comment
31 likesthat is... if you have one
27 likes@Hee Hoo “And this is where I’d put my chin… IF I HAD ONE!”
19 likesLMAOOOOO
3 likesYour comment likes is 9/11. Funny number
0 likes@Lucid isn't Sleeping not very funny to those who died
0 likes@A fricking upside down mountain Idgaf that happen 2 decades ago. Time has pass.
0 likes@Lucid isn't Sleeping 🤓
0 likes2015-2017 was an entertaining but oddly toxic time for YouTube. It was like the entire internet collectively went through it’s edgy, mean, insecure teen phase. Even as someone who was as once subscribed to him for a bit, I’ll always look back on Leafy as an immature nobody with an equally immature fan base that gave him an overinflated ego that he couldn’t keep in check. The kind of content creator who probably never should’ve become popular in the first place.
264 likesIt’s kind of ironic how he took the massive gamble to overhaul his content which resulted in his spike in popularity, but he didn’t take the same risk in his brief return and chose to hide his newer videos under the guise of clickbait drama that made everyone turn on him in the first place.
And while the Content Cop video may not have been the killer of Leafy’s channel, it certainly exposed one fatal flaw with his character: Don’t talk shit if you can’t take a hit.
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Seems like an immature kid who got popular by being different and couldn’t handle it.
7 likesGood narrator from what I can tell though.
Coming from someone who had no idea who he was until earlier this year
I would argue that phase started in 2014. 2005-2013 seemed like the Golden Age of YouTube and when you compare the content that came after it, there was a lot more edginess as said. I never paid attention to Leafy during his popularity but did notice the effects he had on the platform.
9 likes@Metrowned In those years I used YouTube to watch archived media a lot so I had no idea of what it was like at that time (for original content anyway).
2 likesIt’s an interesting website with an interesting history to it.
He gained great success. He was far from a nobody and is a multi-millionaire today, my guy. And immature, yes but on the internet. That was his persona online. You just let it get to far up into your head. Haha!
10 likesOut of curiosity, if YouTube didn’t do anything here, could Leafy have declined more gradually?
0 likes@Fries Yes. Doing the same thing over and over will kill your channel.
4 likes@Parzival That’s definitely true (not to suggest he wouldn’t have declined), and I’d take it the decline would have been more gradual if YouTube didn’t hide the visibility of his channel, correct?
0 likesI was with Leafy since kids that ddos. Leafy is still alive and is a God.
0 likes@Metrowned 2015
0 likesdamn, I miss 2015-2017 period...
2 likesKeemstar is kinda a bad dude. He actively creates hate drama to report on. He thrives on hate, so why wouldn't he actively try to support/create it? Same reason I don't trust mass media sources. They do that too.
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He's a terrible person. It's not news.
76 likes@Conrad Reed They mean it's not news that he's a terrible person. Lmao, jesus. Get a grip.
45 likes@Omnihilo ` lol sorry it kinda sounded like he actually believed it was news.
2 likeshe isnt a bad dude hes a business man lol his channel is called DRAMA why are people so dumb thinking hes a news channel?
0 likes@LNMBEATS because many people are conditioned by our news casters thst equate drama to news. They aren't the same thing, and even politics in theory can be talked about without screaming and insults (I know it's definitely impossible online, people refuse to see each others points and simply take the words and use them for a comeback without actually thinking of anything beyond words on a screen). Sadly it's just how things are right now. Maybe one day people will have a lightbulb moment and think before screaming about drama.
3 likesAll youtube "personalities" aren't worth your time. They all end up like H3H3.
0 likes@LNMBEATS he's a bad person for reasons unrelated to his drama alert series.
0 likes@Comrade Muds who cares?
0 likesto out myself, I was an absolute leafy stan back in the "golden days" of his channel. I was a full out edgy teen actively hating on everyone leafy made a video about. Around the time where the mysterious decline of views occurred, i stopped watching him aswell. For me the content just grew stale over time. The videos were always the same and got boring. I also started reflecting and looking back at the videos from him I once thought were "the greatest and realest videos on youtube" and was almost disgusted by myself. Realizing hes always just picking on people smaller than himself, who cant defend themself. Realizing that its just always the same insults he uses about small things or funny appearances the "victims" most of the time have no real control over. The content cop coming after this realization was just the final nail in the coffin for me, pointing out many more things wrong with these kind of videos. Maybe there was a secret youtube shadowban too, but I can imagine that a lot of leafy fans felt like I did around that time, getting bored of the repetitive edgy content, aswell as "growing up" and realizing that edgy ≠ funny
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I stopped watching him when he started only dropping reaction videos hating on peeps but I remember him from his story time videos. Recently found a channel that reposts old leafy videos and I gotta say, the old story time videos where surprisingly really entertaining and pure. It's sad to go through and see how he gradually gave in to his edgy tendencies though
11 likesim in the same boat, i started watching him when he had like 80k subs and he was great, the story times were hillarious and the whole "this dude is so real" was very appealing. The whole making fun of ppl was pretty hillarious for a while too until, as you said, it just got stale... I realized he was often punching down and its not really entertaining watching a grown ass probably millionare at this point making fun of like 13 year olds every single day. i miss when he was a small youtuber who just made funny edgy vids and story time, actually i dont think i would enjoy that today but who knows. I was a HSSSS BOI and this is my story lol
7 likesi liked him too but i never attacked anyone for it, i just thought he was funny
7 likesalso after the mysterious algorithm change I did watch him much less but i occasionally came back
also i rewatched some of the old storytime videos recently and i actually liked them a lot
@DashN Eyy, same!^^
2 likesfinally a mature response. this is the reason i find so many of emp's older videos so cringey.
3 likesHonestly, someone like him was never going to survive on YouTube forever. When all you do is punch down, eventually someone is gonna punch down on you.
8 likesThis is amazing. One of the best movies I've watched on YouTube. I was never really a fan of Leafy's repetitive content, but I did think he was a funny guy. And I did love what he did to YouTube in 2016. It was awesome to see the top YouTubers interacting like they did in the early days of Smosh, Lisa Nova and Daxflame. The 2010-2015 era of YouTube didn't really have YouTube celebrities in this sense. Leafy brought that back and made YouTube what it is today.
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Yooo, didnt expect to see you here. Dig your videos man
5 likesMovies? The fuck?
3 likesWow. I've never completely agreed with someone before on the subject of Leafy. You're a smart man, my good sir.
4 likesLul ok
1 likeGo outside.
3 likesHISSSSSSS...
0 likesMy mans spittin'
0 likesKnow what the biggest crime of this is?
50 likesLeafy, despite having a Tetra for his pfp, never did a video involving Wind Waker. The shitstorm of that during Nintendo's content creator program would have been beyond comprehension
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He did
1 likeHe made a whole windwaker series
1 likeFound your channel while stuck in an airport all night due to a canceled flight, gotta say you're really helping me through this shit XD Great vids man.
34 likesIf I’m gonna be honest, I was never interested in the whole situation around him, and since it started blowing up, I just let all of the chaos fly away from my radar, but even then, I still watched this entire video and enjoyed every minute of it because of how well made this was
25 likesThe editing is amazing, the storytelling was great and it was organized perfectly
I watched this channel for a long while but this finally got me to subscribe, great work
I used to work at one of those third parties being hired to monitor content, relevance and what not by the algorithms used by big sites...and yeah what EmpLemon says is really fitting to the way those sites operate behind the scenes.
37 likesOf course most of those employees are under NDAs so it will still take some years for more testimonies to come out.
Damn, this video was very well put together. EmpLemon, you are an amazing creator. And your only 20 right now? Holy shit dude.
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BasedShaman love your vids dude
2 likeslockjaw brother
2 likesYou ain't kidding
0 likesOthers have said it, but you are one of the most captivating people I have ever listened to on youtube, and I've been on youtube a LOT since it first existed. I believe you will continue to have great growth, and at a young age too! Im not much older but as someone trying to grow in the virtual space, you are an inspiration!
16 likesThe fact that this video is demonetized pains me. I can only imagine the work put into this.
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Why is it demonetized?
3 likes@apairofglasses it has leafy on it
1 like@Stalink TriforceZッ ok thanks for answering dood.
0 likesyknow everything is fucked when you feel nostalgia for 2016
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agreed
7 likesI think things will keep going downhill until people stop the current momentum of bs.
14 likeswhat do you mean 2016 was one of the greatest years ever
8 likes@Omnihilo ` There is a dysgenic process going on right now in the Western world, I believe it is being done intentionally. It is plain to see, glad you can see it.
5 likesLol
1 like@Mercury wait, tumbler banned p 0rn?
2 likesBrooooo...
1 likeDude it feels like 10 years ago.
1 like@Daniel D forest clowns, enough said
0 likesAnyone that was around back then will know it was certainly a more interesting time to be on YouTube. There was a lot of drama among channels and the entire thing felt like an edgy TV series. Ever since then YouTube just feels too stale and too safe. The edge is gone. YouTube may never be this personal and "tight" as it was back then, let alone as edgy and counter-culture. But looking back, we got to experience possibly YouTube's last golden age.
6 likesHonestly, I think if Leafy and Keem make amends and become friends again, his channel will come back.
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Yeah, I remember Keem tried to help leafy get his login info back after the leaked nudes incident. I don’t think they hate each other’s guts or anything like that, but idk if they’re “friends” friends though? They were extremely close from late 2015-spring 2016. (Or, at least it sure looked that way.) They worked together, traveled together, stood up for each other, etc. I don’t think they’re quite back to that yet. I might be missing something, but Calvin didn’t unlist any of the Keemstar rants - I feel like he should have done this if they were truly back to the way things used to be.
30 likesagain, leafy doesn't care, is actually impressive that keemstar actually wanted to end the beef and make peace even though he didn't really have to. Yet leafy still is and will always be a prick. Keemstar made himself look like the bigger man while leafy is just the topic of ridicule.
7 likesYes but i dont think leafy died he just got bored of it i think
1 likeLeafy is Calvin, not Alex
0 likesAd Vantage just look it up, it'll give you more details than I ever could
0 likesErica Lin no
0 likesThey did
0 likeslol dantdm fan spotted
0 likesErica Lin indeed
0 likesErica Lin i hope not
0 likesI understand your comment, But I dont understand why ppl would despise him for getting that paper
0 likesThis comment ages like fine wine... at least for 5 months tho
8 likesExactly what happened, but Leafy got the ban hammer
1 likeIronic
1 likeAged fine like wine. Leafy and Keem became friends again, but Leafy's channel still got banned
1 likeHAHA, WRONG
0 likesI love how well this theory aged. This is so well put together! I'm glad that I found this channel
35 likesHis audience matured and realised how insufficient his content was. Who would go back and rewatch those videos today? I for one can't remember anything worthwhile from them. It was always the dramas surrounding his channel that gave him relevancy.
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I went back to watch them and i find the funny, worthwhile entertainment, particularly the ones that came before he really started milking it. Maturing is not becoming pretentious, but realizing that leafy was good all along
2 likesComing from someone who had no idea who he was until this year, and who has since seen a couple clips.
2 likesDude can make a humorous narration, but I wouldn’t call his videos particularly distinct from one another for the most part, and other than pointing out weird parts of this site, and the people who inhabit them, there isn’t a ton that you walk away from those videos with.
His videos have their humorous moments, but it’s not something I would have subscribed to personally.
YouTube was polishing up their image to go more mainstream and ad friendly. It's that simple. Only reason I use this annoying website is because there is no video channel that runs even close to as smoothly.
11 likesI remember all of this stuff unfolding before me while I was a mere 7th/8th grader in middle school. A little bit of freshman year as well. Now seeing this all being told as some sort of major historical event is crazy. It feels like I lived through something big while at the time it felt like just some other thing that happened.
15 likesoh man such a beautiful well done vid
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Wats the beat that's starts playing at 12:10
1 likeDanny Don't worry about it
1 likeIt’s called adult swim 2001 pool theme
@Jonathan Pereira I looked it up it's not bro
0 likesyou're the type that produces <5 min videos of fortnite
0 likesi'm suprised how you made this far. Feels like people like pewdiepie standing up to corporations
Big fan!
0 likesR00ptilons: Hisss...
1 likeMe: Are you a cat?
Roartiles: no I am snek
Me: so you are f00rey
Reptilians: no... hiSSSS!
Me:The you are a emo b0i
Reptilians: ohmygodyouarensjfnsueus7bwiywhvxohe
Me:sorry can't hear you over your illuminance
Reptilians: ragequits
Ian L this is the least funny YouTube comment I’ve seen since I’ve watched a jacksfilms video
0 likesOmg, i never thought i would see you here!
0 likesCan confirm: leafys content just got stale. I watched nearly every leafy commentary in the beginning but around 2016/2017 it just got boring. Always the same pattern, just a different disposable antagonist. So I watched less and less videos until I stopped completely and forgot about him. And then years later wondered what happened to him.
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tbh this was the first time I heard about the idubbz content cop episode so prob around the time of that video I only watched a select few leafy videos
0 likesYou seem like you’re stuck in a 2016 time chamber
0 likesBeen a fan since ytp’s and never have I ever been bored. Very creative and informative, love where you’re taking the channel.
7 likesThe things at the content cop stage, leaf should have just taken the L and made jokes about his chin and embraced the meme. It would have then reverted the attack showing he can take it and dish it out but instead he could only dish it out.
24 likesI was listening to this while making breakfast and my mom suddenly got dead invested in your story. She was really sad when Leafy started to make fun of kids.
16 likesThis aged well, and then horribly, and then well again
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He was doing fine then banned.
124 likesThis shall be top comment
6 likes@Poké- Champ no It shall not
57 likes@WolfyRed You know what? Here,take my like
9 likesWell him coming back and gaining a shit ton of subscribers, kinda proves that he was supressed by YouTube. Because his videos were not deliberately demonetized.
68 likesthan horribly
2 likesYea
0 likesYes
0 likesWhat happened? I never heard of Leavi before this video.
1 like@Cas Cas well if you search it up know you won't find anything because he got banned from YouTube (not too long after this video), but before that he kinda returned before YouTube Thanos snapped him off their website (for some very dumb reason)
13 likes@Poké- Champ l
0 likeswhat comes around, goes around
1 like@INCEL aaaaaand: it's gone
5 likes@Gabriel Trifonov He doesnt deserve to have a platform. He's never offered anything good or original
5 likesHad never heard of Leafy until this video popped up in my recommended sidebar.
4 likesSounds like an unorthodox channel, and though this obviously wasn’t the title of the video, I suppose it could be argued that there’ll never ever be a YouTuber quite like Leafy again due to the trajectory of the site and the cloth of successful commentary channels that Lemon alluded to.
Also, I gotta say, that’s a very cool profile picture on his part.
Best comment.
0 likesLeafy returning was still horrible
2 likesJust like leaf's YouTube career but vise versa.
0 likes@oLogical YT why tho, he was abrasive, which was his niche. All he really did was use pokimane as clickbait for 10 videos but the content of the videos was 90% stocks.
0 likesHis tweets were probably the worst things he did in his return (he tweeted out asking if anyone wanted to get dicked down like what lmao) but overall he was just pretty edgy. Nowhere near the same levels as say Jay Station or other controversial channels like that.
To be fair, Leafy did continuously violate YT’s policies so it was mainly his own doing. That’s like breaking the law many times and then get thrown in prison and you complaining that you shouldn’t have been punished and that the law is just unfair. Law is law!
0 likesLeafy's story is a a tragedy in the sense that the protagonist falls from grace, doomed to an existence of lurking in the shadows while his former comrades like Pyro went on the path to glory; but also it was also an epic victory as justice was served to someone who thrived off of hate leeched off of drama.
1 likeAnd in the end, It was his weird chin that did him in.
This story is just so poetic
Leafy is here :bullying the innocent people
5 likesYoutube: i sleep
Leafy is here :bullying pokimane
Youtube: I WOKE
you went from ytp to feature length documentaries about youtubers i followed in my early to mid teens. you are incredible.
6 likesLeafy is literally the reason why YouTube has such strict rules on YouTube content now. What a legend
2 likesI remember that at one point I loved returning home and watching his content. It took me like 4 months to realise how repetitive his content got. He was quite the beast and now he serves as a fascinating study.
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I remember watching his videos aswell as idubbbz's videos, thinking they were the 'good guys' and thinking keemstar and h3h3 were the 'bad guys', but after a while I just started watching leafy less and less because he became less interesting, and then idubbbz made his content cop, after which I completely stopped watching leafy videos.
303 likesStarted getting old around March 2016.
93 likesholy shit hoovy?! i didn't know you were browsing this side of youtube! btw best sfms ever my man, keep it up hoovy! ^_^
9 likesI agree, and it's weird to see him fall off almost a year after he started to blow up off of "5 reasons csgo is better than COD"
44 likesHoovy Tube Ayyy I like your new video.
1 likeHoovy Tube He was actually really good when he used to tell stories and stuff but then he switched to reaction vids because well, theres only so muxh stories of your life you can tell when you're 18 i guess.
86 likestony speedo Leafy had good videos because of the material he was working with. What set his channel apart from someone like h3h3 was the fact that he DIDNT just punch up. Look at what happened to h3 because he is afraid of offending someone, his channel almost never has those kinds of videos anymore, especially after the lawsuit. With leafy though, he was willing to use the obscure strange videos that nobody would have seen otherwise. His fame is actually what killed him, when he barely had any subscribers, it was just funny to watch how he would react so sarcastically to the extremely strange people on the hidden corners of youtube, but with so many people following him, he just couldnt do that anymore without causing that persons life to get destroyed from harassment. That wasn't his fault. Because of that, and because he wouldnt give up the daily uploads, he was pushed into using a repetitive and cookie cutter style of video that got extremely unfunny and old fast, and he wasnt making videos on unique topics or channels anymore, he was commenting on channels that had already been trashed on millions of times.
94 likesHis content was entertaining, and he was a charismatic guy, but only to an extent. he could grab your attention and hold it, and how he phrased certain things could convince you that he was right and others were ridiculous, and I think that's a big part of why he got so big.
56 likesbut ultimately, I think how he made his content followed the classic bullying formula: Search for a victim smaller (physical/social status) than you, preferably someone that is already seen non-positively. add to this situation not by helping, but by drawing attention to yourself and how you are great for keeping them down. then watch as the machine begins rolling and the person defending themselves is seen as weakness and no matter what (short of attacking you, the instigator), only makes the hole deeper.
in the end, it was the victims of his behavior crashing down on him that brought his fall. all these creators and people he exploited and bullied piled up and finally broke his neck.
Same
1 likesame here bud
3 likesI remember watching his videos a LOT back in 2016 and 2015. They always seemed funny to me. But once 2017 came around, I didn't find his videos nearly as funny as I used to.
22 likesI was the same way, dude.
0 likesHoovy Tube with me, his videos got old and boring
3 likesI always feel this is an overlooked "reasoning" on the behalf of his downfall---his fans just got tired of him. I remember going on reddit where the same was being discussed, a lot of the responses were echoed of what is being said here: people didn't find him funny anymore, his videos became repetitive, people outgrew his sense of humor, etc. etc. Dunno if I'd say that's the exact reasoning but it was one of the driving factors. Personally, I feel if he tried stepping outside the box every now & then, he might still be around today. Who knows.
19 likes@Hoovy Tube - That's exactly how I felt about his content. Interesting initially, but gets stale fast after a month or two of the same damn thing.
2 likes@Dor Bacal - I never cared about the Content Cop stuff. It definitely wasn't what made me tune out from Leafy at all. I'm not that arsed about iDubbz at all, TBF. To me he's just another opportunist who thinks he's edgy and clever, just like all these other content creators. They're a dime a dozen on youtube. No, what made me leave Leafy behind was the non-stop recycling of the same theme every single day for months and months with almost exactly the same running commentary format. It was exhausting. Towards the end I was internally screaming, "Dude, do something new. Anything. Please."
5 likesI always watched his and pyro's videos when I got home. I remember 2015-2016 very well. The amount of drama that happend then will never happen again. Today's drama can't compare to the killer gnome or the hissy reptilian.
3 likesAt least, in my opinion...
Hoovy Tube lloi
0 likesI remember accidentally sending one of his videos to my mom and thats when I stopped watching him lmao
1 likeI remember watching Leafy, Pyro, iDubbbz and h3h3 but after the Leafy vs h3 drama I watched Leafy less and after the content cop I unsubscribed
1 likeDor Bacal why would you think h3 was the bad guy? What did he do??
0 likesHoovy Tube dude same i used to make videos like him to
0 likesI loved his stories videos(specially the drug use ones), he is a great communicator and entertainer.
0 likesCan someone tell me what the actual appeal of leafy's videos is? The only sentence in this 51 minutes about that was the existence of "edgy" people,but ehen I try to watch one of his videos it's just obnoxious bs, what's the appeal?
1 likeleafy was the perfect youtuber for edgy 14 year old me lol rip
0 likesThis aged like fine wine. Tastes great at the beginning but after a little while you want to wait for a long time. Then that long times comes and its perfect
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Oh, so THAT'S what fine wine tastes like...
0 likesIt was very intriguing coming back to this time on the internet that I had almost forgotten, and even more interesting to see where all these once kings of youtube are now. With Keemstar recently retiring, it seems the only youtubers left from this edgy era are h3h3, who runs a podcast, and Pyrocynical, who makes actual quality long form reviews of niche games and tv shows that are pretty good. Still wild just to see how much the environment in youtube had shifted in the past 5 years...
1 likereally made me appreciate the work youtubers put in to still be relevant, very impressive
0 likesthis is something that I've been saying for a while now. I've been using youtube sense its initiate launch. This platform's algorithm has slowly become not about what you want to watch but what youtube wants you to watch. I miss the golden days of youtube.
15 likesi like how youtube documentaries are becoming an actual genre now
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I love video essays. This is a trend I can get behind. Getting educated about things, be it useless internet and e-celebrity trivia or other more useful topics such as history and science. Nothing like sitting down to watch some amateur but very well put together documentaries
8 likes@Rezu55 Late for three years but I couldn't agree more
0 likesTotally.
0 likesThis genre can produce a wide array of discourses, as well as fascinating videos.
Glad it’s taken off.
The combination of All Caps, a cartoon of Saint Patrick, and colored footage of snakes to lead into the reptilian section was just one of the unexpected moments of brilliance in this documentary about a youtuber. Very well done as always.
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What was the song he used there?
0 likesEmp I can’t deny you are the best youtuber, like wow your videos are so well done and you can tell the work you put into it, genuinely amazed
1 likeMoral of the story: Don't fuck with MrBlackDarkness666
72 likesIt's kind of funny how you can track the "eras" of YouTube based on the average age of the userbase. The bulk of users in 2012-13 were 12 and 13 year olds, so Minecraft content made sense. Then those kids grow up a bit, hit their edgy phase when they're 14-15, and thus edgy content becomes the hip thing in 2015. Now we're all in our early 20s, and vtubers are running the site which can only mean one thing; we've all hit our anime phase that everyone hits in college
4 likesAnother fantastic upload.
1155 likesFor me personally, as someone who watched all of this unfold in real time as it was happening 2 years ago, this is great to see. These events are truly historic for internet culture, and Leafy's rise and fall serve as the perfect cautionary tale, to me, of how to grow a You Tube channel, and how to destroy it. Sad really, as even though I am not a fan of his content like I was as an edge lord 14 year old, I still think back fondly on those times, when YouTube drama was more entertaining and brutal, the commentary community was a force to be reckoned with, and Leafy reigned king. Twas a different time, and now seeing Pyrocynical slowly move away from commentary and NFKRZ try to resuscitate his dying channel is sad for me, but I guess in the end, this is how things were meant to pan out. Once again, great video, can't wait for more, and keep up the good work.
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Turkey Tom yeah I was a long subscriber of leafy drama alert every channel listed in this and saw it all unfold interesting to have seen this history as it happened I've seen the rise and the chaos and the fall of leafy interesting now I never witch hunted anyone like most in that fan base just enjoyed the videos of all of them interesting to look back on all that now saw keemstar idubbz leafy all them very chaotic time period with the drama and such
9 likesTurkey Tom he left out a ton of events.
0 likesHonestly I’m happy with the direction pyro went in
61 likesExactly how I feel. Things were simpler back then. I was 14 years old, super edgy, and there was no Paul brothers on YouTube.
24 likesWhy are you everywhere I am? Good vids btw
1 likeDicc Chocolate me too
0 likesI agree completely; I was a massive fanboy of his back then for a few months, but just kinda moved on, much like his fanbase.
9 likesSame
0 likesTurkey Tom hi
0 likesPerhaps that's all Leafy existed to be, a stepping stone for other Youtubers to use in order to achieve greater heights and even greater fame. It also really goes to show what it takes to survive as a relevant Youtuber on this site. It's either kill or be killed, come out on top as the apex predator or get eaten by a stronger and more dominant carnivore.
4 likesPyro is better now that he's doing less commentary in my opinion
1 likeI don't know what kinda of mutant you'd have to say ''edge lord'', but you have to be one big mutant for sure.
0 likestbh Pyro's videos have only gotten better since he stopped doing commentary videos.
2 likesHey go make vids
0 likesIt's intersting how Memelous still gets 5k-10k subs per day and 1 mil views per video even tho he's a leafy clone
1 likeWas binging your videos and I realized, congrats on 1 million! You’re right about to hit it.
2 likesi just know im not the only one who would love a part 2 to this
9 likesDrew Gooden
2 likesYour editing and story-telling is fantastic, you kept me fully engaged for almost half an hour. great video.
One of the most interesting periods of the internet, for sure. Early 2016 - Mid 2018 YouTube definetly helped shape some of my personality and sense of humor; probably more so than most since I was still in elementary school and was extremely impressionable. I remember watching Leafy pretty often and laughing at his funny curse words while play Roblox or Minecraft or something; same story for H3H3, Grade, and Pyro. While I can't say it was a great influence, I'm glad to have grown up around this area of the internet.
0 likesImagine a parallel universe where Leafy decided to keep making minecraft videos, and then became famous in 2019
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Daaam! That would be awesome
62 likes@PanQuakes I guess
8 likesPanQuakes nah it'd be good cuz youtube wouldn't be as corporate as it is now
47 likesWhy would he be famous in 2019
8 likes@fewl Hahahaha. Nice joke.
12 likesSentry Buster
46 likesCus Minecraft blew up this year, since it turned 10 years
@Brobot500 but mostly because of pewdiepie
35 likesLeafy was dying before he vanished
5 likesI mean... if multi verse theory IS correct
3 likesLol
0 likesGobbles the Gengar tfs... i like this one.
0 likesI just laughed so fucking hard at this
0 likes@Plus_Subtract ay, u eat ur cereal?
0 likesBrobot500 yes, it did blow up this year, but he would still be like the 1000’s of the same channel over and over again
0 likesonly had he waited...
0 likesHe would not be as popular. He would be as relevant as CaptainSparklez right now, and that's not a lot.
1 likeLeafy has returned
1 likeYea minecraft videos are popping off now but I’m still stuck at nobody status
0 likesWell, he is creating and getting popular of his new videos in 2020, so I think we're in a another batshit crazy parallel universe
1 likeHe is also reported to go on Minecraft Monday!
0 likesWith the way he is, he would've given up halfway
0 likesThe good ending
0 likesau where leafy part of the dream team?
2 likesimagine if leafy in this alternative world gets invited to the dream smp. I wonder what his lore would be like…
2 likes@Comment Police 2019 saw a resurrection and a giant hype for minecraft
2 likes@Brobot500 It hasn’t turned 10 yet lol, where did you get that from
0 likes@Comment Police
0 likesI forgot to clarify, I was talking about the first public release of Minecraft, which was May of 2009
i know that it fully released in November of 2011
Lol
0 likesbasically jschlatt
1 likeYeah and if he eventually became part of the Dream smp stuff. Despite my disdain for Dream I could see that parallel universe Leafy fitting in with the group.
1 likeMeanwhile in TubeYou
0 likesDidnt you hear? He is Dream thats why he doesnt want to show his face.
0 likesKinda like Dream. Nobody from 2011 to 2019, then all of a sudden a star.
1 like“Minecraft would never again be as popular”
22 likesThis aged like milk. There was no way to predict it, but it did.
This video is like a time capsule, thanks for making this. I miss leafy.
8 likesI never liked Leafy's content and never will. And even as a slighly edgy teen myself back then, I think that his content was aimed at the worst kind of edgy "dank" children from that era. This documentary is fire and really well done! EmpLemon never disappoints.
23 likesReally well written and presented. I give 11/10, watched about 20 times now.
0 likesWhy does this feel like a legitimate documentary? It holds my attention so well. Well done.
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Pill Grimm Maybe you haven't seen many documentaries? This is not much like those.
1 likeHonestly to this day I still think some of his stuff was undeniably hilarious even if it was bullying
1 likePretty interesting video talking about Leafyishere. Thanks for the insight of this guy that i haven't seen for a while. I was pretty young and dumb to believe that he was a good person or maybe he was just giving what his viewers wanted to watch. Idk just a theory of mine.
5 likesOh how Ethan has fallen down the shitter. Man went from calling out bullying on youtube to literally taking away money from people he dislikes smh
2 likesI really enjoyed his comeback not too long ago. It was like watching someone piloting a burning ship, knowing it'd inevitably sink
0 likesAged like fine wine. EmpLemon's theory was right.
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Well, he was only too right. You know what they say, YouTube: actions speak louder than words.
124 likesI feel that this theory emp had is also a larger narrative YouTube slowly changing rules over time. But I wonder if team YouTube will ever go against the makeup community because of drama surrounding it.
97 likeswait i dont get it what happened 3 months ago do you have a good video explaining?
2 likesyup
1 like@boomer funny jim gaffigan leafy came back on youtube to troll a bit then got banned for no apparent reason, and with no strikes at all.
73 likeswasnt right about the minecraft cultural peak part
3 likes@Julian Straubel ah
1 like@Patrick Zhu yeah he was, the spike recently didn't surpass the all time peak
8 likes@Julian Straubel no reason? He made more than 9 vids targeting pokemaine. I honestly don’t care about bullying online or whatever but there was definently a reason
17 likes@Zak those videos eventually turned into just clickbaiting poki, only to give people life advice. i see people clickbait all the time and then talk about something completely unrelated all the time yet never get banned, ofc there were other reasons why and i agree with them considering leafy is a pretty bad person, but he shouldn't have been banned for the pokimaine stuff. in my last comment talking about why he got banned because i was a fan of leafy and wanted him to be on the right side, now that im not a fan i can see the wrong things he did. i still think he should've gotten warnings and even if he got all 3 strikes it shouldn't have been a perm ban. but ye i see where he was in the wrong.
26 likes@Julian Straubel I mean I'm just saying what I heard. Obviously, I wasn't gonna watch 9 vids that look the same and I was never a fan to begin with (I didn't find just straight-up bashing random ppl funny).
3 likes@Julian Straubel I also don't believe youtube should have permabanned him, but there was technically a reason behind it.
3 likesNot quite. He was completely right about YouTube, but never underestimate the influence of someone with a name like MrBlackDarkness666 ;)
12 likes@boomer funny jim gaffigan leafy made the mistake of trolling h3h3 too hard. Ethan has a close relationship with Susan wojcicki, YouTube's CEO
20 likesyep
1 liketheory? no. prophecy.
1 like@Julian Straubel Leafy came back because he was harassing people and targeting Pokimane with a lot of that harassment in an age where it no longer flew like it did. He was also not exactly on good graces with YouTube considering that all he did was bully people and let his mob fester on other peoples channels. He was banned for a reason. This narrative is bizarre.
7 likes@Patrick Zhu
1 likeThat’s what YouTube wants you to believe.
@Gettenhart nope not at all. He was banned because of the unrelenting Pokimane verbal attacks threats etc.
2 likesRy It was definitely H3 conspiring with Susan though
2 likes@Somers there is always a reason, just.or unjust
1 like@papameatball The reason was just, if you're implying otherwise.
3 likes@Somers justice is subjective
3 likes@papameatball That statement is worthless. It equates beheading women for not staying inside with sex offenders being jailed. Try harder than this.
2 likes@Somers you're equating it to that. I think you're trying to hard. Community guideline strikes do exist. For youtube to not use their own strike system is definitely a form of unjust behavior. And with the goal post of what really constitutes bullying, a strict and up to date guideline strike system is imperative.
2 likes@papameatball No, your statement is actually. "Justice is subjective" permits what I just said. You made a lazy, broad stroke and it's silly.
2 likesCommunity strikes aren't the be all end all and it was clear that, considering Leafy had a history, that his behavior was going to continue. Strikes were a formality because every video where he was harassing people was viable for a strike and feigning ignorance here is a bad look.
@papameatball Also, if you view justice as subjective, then this was just as proper of a move as using the strike system. You killed your own argument.
2 likes@Somers sounds rather subjective
0 likes@papameatball Exactly, next time set yourself up better.
2 likesExcept for the fact that Minecraft is popular again
0 likes@Julian Straubel There was a reason. Its pretty well explained in this video
0 likesIf YouTube never did anything related to his video visibility nor banned him, would Leafy still be on YouTube?
0 likesNot an endorsement of his channel, just curious?
@Fries No. I dont know if youve noticed, but the youtube rules have changed considerably since hes gone. Everything he relied on is against the rules now. His only way to comeback is to just stream or make react content.
0 likes@Mario So his channel would be demonized for being non advertiser friendly?
0 likesAnything else?
@Fries He wouldnt do youtube if he couldnt make money off of it.
0 likes@Mario Gotcha
0 likes@Mario Out of curiosity, I’d take it a thumbnail that shows a woman’s boobs would get a video demonetized? Would it?
0 likesEven if that’s not in the video itself?
My gut would be yes, but I’m not sure.
The fall of the Reptilian army.
12 likesMan I miss being 14
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Same
1 likeMan I miss these big YouTube events. It was such an exciting time when everyone could turn on anyone at any point and then outta nowhere, idubbbz would come in and fuckin destroy someone. I loved it.
0 likesI admire the hell out of Leafy. I get how hated he's been, for so many years. But i wouldn't view him as insecure. I'd view him as cunning, and as youtube's biggest cutthroat.
1 likeI always liked your music choice in the background of your videos and then I heard All Caps and it made me immensely happy. Also I just wanted to say that im glad you transitioned away from YT poops and I hope you enjoy the style of videos that you make now. Have a great day!
1 likeThis is an incredible amount of study and effort, more than most of whom would give up before even thinking if they could do that much, on the side of fear though,
726 likesThis effort in compiling all of the evidence of YouTube's interventions and methods into a fashion that is well organised and incredibly digestible to even audiences who effectively lurk entirely on the recommended page and altogether know very little about youtube as a whole are of course very dangerous to youtube's narrative, which begs the contingency:
While you're being sandbagged, you're still popular to a point, you have influence, especially outside of youtube, making you a bit of a target in itself, while youtube is already utilizing the existing methods, I can't help but feel they're eventually going to bring out the umbrella gun sooner or later, with what I know of you, you already have the work you uploaded stored somewhere else too, but what then? Youtube pokes your your channel with the ricin pellet, what are your options, where do you go?
That shit's scary.
On the leafy topic though:
When I was watching back in leafy's heyday, the recommendations would be literally flooded, as in several leafy videos in them.
One day it all stopped, just like that, bam.
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Very true, his stuff is heavily re-watchable on the side of quality, reminds me of a quote from avgn, who took the quote from somebody else:
13 likes"The harder it is to make, the easier it is to watch."
I used to watch leafy back in 6th and 7th grade
3 likesThe irony is that his videos are historic and nostalgic
That’s the point it’s crazy!!!!
Complete valid points 👍
0 likesI think the special thing about Leafy is that at the time, the wider community wanted him dead. If you had told anyone "youtube is killing him!" they'd likely answer with "and good riddance"
4 likesI think if any YouTuber would have a chance of maintaining a fanbase outside of YouTube, it would be EmpLemon because of how unique and how much quality he puts into his videos. He seems like the kind of channel that many people would go looking for if he disappeared, ya know?
3 likesEmplemon is definitely above the rest, too bad YouTube doesn't see it that way. Everyone of these comments hits the nail on the head. Well organized, easy to watch and follow along. As well as very entertaining to watch again, something I can hardly say about many other youtubers. Best of luck to you Emplemon you crazy downward spiral bastard XD
5 likesIf You-tube strikes Emplemon down he shall become more powerful then he ever was alive. It would be just about the dumbest thing they could do.
1 likeThis made me remember old youtube and my old subscriptions that I stopped watching many years ago, Leafy, PewDiePie, Septic eye, ect.
7 likesI miss old youtube, I miss being able to come home and not have to deal with drama and bullshit that I already deal with all day.
I want my fucking games and other media back damnit.
Never even heard of Leafy before watching this video just now, and I have always watched videos about games. So at least in my case I believe he definitely was shut out of ever showing up.
1 likecan't believe youtube actually recommended this to me lol, so indicative of what they're doing to censor creators
1 likeI'm gonna be honest here I don't know how it happened, but in mid-2016, when Leafy was booming, I met him on Twitter, and we talked a bit. We never really talked a huge amount, mostly because I didn't know anything about him and barely used Twitter. I still barely use it. But I later went back and found that it was, in fact, Leafy's actual Twitter account, and I'll be honest, he seemed like a chill guy. Everyone at the time saw him as the "edgy ranter type" (not sure if that's the right word for that) but I mean, in the Twitter DMs I had with him, he seemed like a pretty nice guy. I suppose it could've been a facade, but it seemed rather genuine. Heck, I even met the guy on ROBLOX. Yes, I met Leafy on a Roblox game, and he started talking to me in the chat, and eventually we ended up on Twitter somehow. Theres no way to look back at Roblox chats, and I haven't been on the Twitter account that I DMed him on in years, but I never deleted the messages or closed them, so provided I can log into it again I can find those DMs. But... yeah, he seemed chill honestly, like a normal dude.
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Update whenever you can
0 likesThis has got to be one of the best and if not most well researched videos on the site. This was such a nostalgic trip for me because this marks the time where I used YouTube the most. I subscribed to leafy when he had around 30-40k subscribers and was familiar with DramaAlert and Grade and Idubbbz through other means (Minnesota Burns, Jinx Content Cop, etc.) so I got to watch all of these events through all of these years unfold through my eyes from everyone's perspectives, and to be honest, this is the best and most accurate retelling of the story I've ever seen anyone even attempt (trust me, I've thought of tackling this beast of a topic before as well lol). Props aside, I also think your theory on Leafy being the first demonetized channel is pretty interesting, and plausible, but it also brings up the question that if this truly were the case, without Leafy, would demonetization and the strict regulations on YouTube today even exist? I believe that Leafy existed as a catalyst for every major change to the site since 2015-16, as well as the many personalities who would gain massive subscriber counts as he fell. I think you missed a good opportunity to bring up Pyrocynical in this though, because he's like the "Good Future" version of Leafy in a multiple endings video game. He was almost identical to Leafy at the time in terms of content, and even fanbase, yet he didn't make all the same mistakes that Leafy did, for lack of a bigger subcount and a bigger ego, thus with minor tweaks to his content after Leafys decline, his channel thrived. All of the possibilities you talked about in the end exist in Pyro so it's really interesting to actually see what Leafy could've been, but then again, without his downfall, people like Pyro's success, or others who adapted the genre wouldn't have even been possible. Longass comment aside, tl:dr, I really loved this video, was really nostalgic and accurate, Leafy represented what would happen if a common channel got big overnight and was ultimately one of the most influential villains the site ever had. Kthanks bye nerdout over :)
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Agreed.
0 likesHistory of the entire world, I guess?
7 likesI can relate to this comment so much....
0 likesMinnesota Burns, now thats another tragic tale, for another time
2 likesagreed on most of it, though I thought the theory on Leafy being the catalyst all the addpocalipse was common knowledge. Still is interesting to see how one person is kind of responsible if not the original patient of demonetization and the hole mess that came out of it.
1 likeLove pyro’s hour long video about petscop!
0 likesTallest Flash Comments fat
0 likesTallest Flash Comments Also, remember that one time where like, there's like a commentary family that Leafy's fans made? Leafy was the dad, Pyro was mom, and LtCorbis was the daughter? Good times, man.
0 likespyro changed his content for the better, leafy never changed his content.
1 likeWonderfully put lad^^
0 likes8:40 yoooo this just triggered a memory in my brain that I hadn't thought of for AGES. That's the first video of Leafy's that I watched and what got me into him! I remember I was hating on Google+ and I guess this must've showed up in my recommend because of that, and I watched it, and was instantly obsessed.
2 likesThere's nothing like a mutual hate on a subject to get you to like somebody.
H3h3 today is a shell of his former self lmao
10 likesBeing on YouTube is like being in a land and discovering history about the rise and fall of great kingdoms and Gods while sometimes discovering nice small towns still being build and then suddenly they are a city.
1 likeYes, yes it's true.
1 likeA channel doesn't need to die for the iDubbbz videos to have fulfilled their purpose.
The man is a serial killer.
Great video though.
If IDubbbz is a content cop, EmpLemon is a content seedy private detective with a drinking problem and a late alimony payment.
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the max payne of youtubers
236 likesPretty accurate tbh
33 likesI picture Dangeresque.
14 likesContent detective? Content historian? Idk
16 likes@haleyleyley The Internet Historian is the Content Historian most likely
61 likesque noir jazz music and noir internal monologues
11 likesMeanwhile, Gokanaru is the SCP-973 of Content Cops, Pyrocynical is the cop that always eats donuts in the cop car, and Kavos is the guy that always talks big but when there's an actual shootout he just takes cover the whole time.
35 likes@Paul C I would've laughed if i remembered how...
3 likesHow old are you and you've watched too much Columbo ...lol...
0 likestig ol bitties So... Content Paul Blart?
2 likesemplemon has a corkboard with a bunch of string connecting the thumbtacks
6 likeslike the noir of youtube
0 likesIDubbz is the rebellious cop who doesn’t play by the rules
7 likesEmplemon is the film noir P.I
Internet historian is the quirky detective
Emplemon is duckman confirmed??
0 likesJimmith McJimbo II that imagination became a reality, it’s called my friend pedro
0 likessherloque
0 likes@plantain. or a pair of deagles with the the youtube logo xD
0 likes@Reg6465 Emplemon is better then Idubz. He's got integrity, in a way few others can match.
1 like@Tom Hill integrity... Yeah but he cant be both funny and serious at the same time
1 like@Reg6465 Sure he can. It's just a matter of technique.
1 likeWho framed LeafyIsHere?
0 likesMore like a content biologist observing peculiar specimens.
1 like@Chris Bartek By 973 you mean absolutely kills/destroys them?
0 likesYour content is one of the best on Youtube. I can listen to this in the background of whatever Im doing and its perfect <3
0 likesI don’t think you’ll ever see this but you are 100% right. They “shadow banned” Pewdiepie, the most subscribed YouTuber. Would be interesting to see how this initial idea put onto Leafy turned into this monster that can do the same thing to pewdiepie.
2 likesYou know it's a good video when I'd rather watch an informative video then play video games
0 likesYou know it's a good video when you watch it multiple times in a year
0 likesThey tried quietly killing him, but that didn't work so they shot him in broad daylight.
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Yep. But he crawled to storyfire.
139 likesHe went out like Gold D. Roger.
93 likesMfw when YouTube rage quits a stealth mission.
196 likesHe tried to hide. But Youtube posted wanted signs and Twitch saw them.
55 likesi liked the way you phrased that
17 likesDan Sickles moment
4 likes@Emraküll didnt even know he streamed on twitch
3 likesI came back to this video to see if someone said this. It's so fucking true
9 likessaber
3 likesoof hits the truth
2 likeswait i dont get it what happened 3 months ago do you have a good video explaining?
1 like@ReaperX3ro fuck censorship
25 likesDidn't the same thing happen to Rasputin?
0 likesThey fuckin capped him
2 likes@ReaperX3ro You're commenting this on a former meme channel. Get bent.
23 likes@ReaperX3ro Question. Where exactly can they go, they are literally banned from all platforms.
9 likes@Kaiser Wilhelm II did nothing wrong to hell.
9 likes"boom, headshot"
3 likesAnd he isn't even black.
0 likesReminds me of Easputin
0 likesAh yes. The JFK treatment.
0 likes@Caleb Mayfield It's a joke. The subject of the joke being Leafy's YouTube assassination. The target of the joke being the shameless violence carried out due to systematic racism.
5 likesLMAOOOO
2 likesHe's like fuckin rasputin.
2 likes@Mercury It's a shame, because while I don't like leafy, and he was never really my cup of tea, banning him without real reasons sets an awful precedent for how they treat content-creation-rule-abiding channels.
2 likesWhat happened?
0 likes@Cas Cas He basically just disappeared from the platform entirely one day, without a trace left. No goodbye video, no channel update, just there one day and gone the next.
0 likesthank god
2 likes@INCEL WOW. It's literally already been terminated. YouTube must have Leafy's IP or something.
0 likesWell deserved
2 likesAt first it was like poking someone with a fork then it went into a nuclear war
1 like@Eternal Reality but instead of the one piece and a great pirate era, its a wealth of subscribers and a great commentary channel
2 likesplagueera@Wisemankugel Memicus and story fire shut down. Fucking hilarious
0 likes@Mr Maticus well it all started when Leafy took me to the circus...
4 likes@Speakatron Thats not a good joke
0 likes@Mario Humour is subjective ☺️
1 like@Mr Maticus well I mean do we really need reasons to find out why someone doesn't like one of the most unlikable gremlins to exist? There wasn't anything worthwhile I ever saw on the guy, which is why I'm just now finding out he finally got banned.
2 likes@Mario And I thank you for sharing it sir.
1 likeLeafy is a martyr
0 likes@yeetimus46 ias playing this roblox rip off of some other stealth game and one of the guys detected me trough a wall, so i just said fuck it and gave up on the stealth mission
0 likesI think we’ve reached a point where we can scrub the terms “toxic” and “problematic” from the front page of the English language…any sort of behavior that someone might consider less than honorable has been “toxic” or “problematic” for the last 5 years. It’s enough already…there are a billion other descriptors in the English language…any of which is less annoying at this point…
2 likesI hope Leafy got a chance to see this. I’m sure he would appreciate it in some kind of way
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He did
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/1T0iodEmKyw?t=718
1 likeHere's his reaction, starts at 11:58
The craziest shit is I first started watching leafy when he has like 30k subs and was surfing while telling his drug experiences
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I know that feeling
0 likesTechnically, what Leafy was doing actually WAS cyberbullying random ppl, using his crazy fanbase.
1 likethis is one of the best videos ever, well researched, well scripted, well edited, i've watched all of your commentary videos and this is your best. have you noticed that gameplay reaction commentaries are being popularized again? all the old commentators that were friends with leafy like nfkrz and pyrocynical went in different directions and leafy just rotted, the leaf went orange/red just like his sub count...
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RabbidTheNabbit The Trump video was better
10 likesJus' sayin'
+Yoav Mor that one is still in my top 5 best emplemon videos, maybe top 3...
22 likesthis comment was great until you asked for the heart
4 likes+Scuttlebug i got rid of it there ya go
3 likesEmpInfo
2 likesRabbidTheNabbit That's because they took the more joky approach while Leafy took the attack approach. But Nfkrz is still bit more attacking then pyro and memeulous that might be why every vudeo of nfkrz gets demonitized like in the first 1pmin he uploads.
6 likesThis was put together so well. I especially liked it when you brought Dirty Harry in and timed it all so well.
0 likesI just find it funny how back then Idubbz was respected and Leafy was mocked
1 likeNow it ended up being the reverse
Funny how we can never truly predict how history will go nor predict what the future will hold
This aged perfectly, especially on the censorship bit.
2 likesI miss Leafy :(
4 likesI already knew the vast majority of this, but something about the way this is presented made me stay from start to finish, it felt so fresh! Seriously, this might be the only video on YouTube over 20 min that I’ve sat all the way through. Keep these coming!
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Thats the thing behind the meme I already knew was a degenerate and the video didn't interest me much. This was much more captivating as I witnessed parts of Leafy's existence first hand and didnt only hear about how bad he was.
3 likesIt was a great nostalgia trip besides being incredibly accurate and well documented with a good amount of references and Easter eggs
1 likeYour analysis breaking down the difficulties of growing a YouTube channel reminds me of The Rad Brad's growth. I was one of his first subs and it was really sobering seeing how long it took for him to reach those numbers he has.
0 likesI feel the best decision Leafy could have made was to roll with the punches. He could have split his videos into two distinct elements—the mockery of others, and the mockery of himself. If he had adopted a meta self-aware and self-deprecating style of humor, he might have lasted longer or at least not been taken down as quickly. If he had proceeded to occasionally make fun of his own chin or content, he could essentially bypass any mockery coming his way.
0 likesA funny idea would be if during his next upload after the Content Cop, he acted completely normal and produced the same normal content he usually would, but wore a paper bag over his face with eyeholes cut out and non-chalantly didn’t acknowledge it. Then later he could popularize a “everything’s fine” sort of meme in which he pretends not to be ashamed of his chin.
I don’t know I’m just throwing ideas out there,
I remember growing up hating keem star so much. I feel like it was so obvious that he was an absolute mad man
1 likeIt's funny how cringe culture roasts people for being weird on the internet, when the internet is literally built by weird people.
7 likesWhen aren’t you making content this good? Even your YTPs were great. Consistently solid.
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FrostbyteFreemanFilms
37 likes“Were great “
Don’t say it like that
inconsistent in type of videos but always consistent in being great
1 likehis YTPSs are still good though despite the earrape
0 likesi wasn't a leafy fan at the time but heard of their existence since, this video is very informative i actually love how u make these analysis videos and the best part is that i got this one in my recommendations just 30 minutes after clicking the video on ur channel
0 likesnow i see that youtube indeed were hunting leafy, also i get where the reptilian meme came from and especially the story behinds that animation mrblackdarkness
I remember being subscribed to leafy around 20k and liking his commentary vids when I was just a kid in highschool and when he got popular the quality of his content just tanked.
0 likesit hurt to unsub from a channel I saw grow from 20k to 200k, but his content just got too obnoxious, even for an edgy highschooler
There will never be another leafy. YouTube is waaayyyy more politically correct now. There is almost no chance for another leafy
3 likes"Minecraft reached it's highest peak"
2 likesminecraft youtubers in 2020: "Well yes, but actually no"
Chapter I - LeafyisBorn 1:58
1923 likesChapter II - LeafyIsNew 3:33
Chapter III - LeafyIsCrafty 6:09
Chapter IV - LeafyIsRising 10:25
Chapter V - LeafyIsHere 16:34
Chapter VI - LeafyIsCracking 19:54
Chapter VII - LeafyIsBlazing 26:46
Chapter VIII - LeafyIsWounded 28:47
Chapter IX - LeafyIsFalling 31:22
Chapter X - LeafyIsBlackballed 34:03
Chapter XI - LeafyIsGone 45:06
Chapter XII - LeafyIsBack
Chapter XIII - LeafyIsTerminated
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Umm why is chapter 6 is missing
21 likes@Cody Rhea I couldn't find it in the video
12 likes@Mako it's at 19:53
17 likes@Cody Rhea Thanks
7 likesChapter XIV - LeafyIsImpersonated
11 likesNice edit
0 likesHe hissed silently into the night
1 likeHe called it
2 likes@ABI love to see that chapter.
0 likes13... That's a pretty fitting number.
0 likes@Eli Hammond comment is edited. He ain't predicted squat lol
0 likesChapter IX - LeafyIsBackAgain
0 likes@Obviary
0 likesOther plataforms don't count :P. Just a matter of Time before Twitter bans him too :''''''"0
@Camera Punk no he made a new account called leafyisnthere
0 likes@Obviary i don't think that's him dude a lot of fakes have been spawning lately.
0 likes@Camera Punk okay yeah you could be right
0 likesInsert generic tell em naegi meme here
0 likesChapter XIV LeafyisOntwitch
2 likesthanks Na egg i
0 likesChapter XV: LeafyisTerminatedAgain
0 likesWhats the music at 1:58
0 likes@Caco Mellucci Bojack Theme
1 likeEpilogue: Leafywashere
1 like@Mako what’s up my brother
0 likes@Zan4337 YOOOOOOO QUI GON GANG
0 likesGood thing we have timestamps on the timeline/time bar now
0 likes@Cody RheaHISSSSSSS I'm not a reptilian I'm trying the troll you
0 likesWhat is the music at 12:30 and at 14:50
0 likes@Dexter Roble all caps - MF DOOM
0 likes@To Be Honest bro thought you were insulting me thanks though and what about the music at 12:30
0 likes@Cody Rhea VI is 6?
0 likesChapter Present - LeafyIsComingBack
0 likesTechnically iDubbz didn't kill Leafy's channel... YouTube did on 2020
3 likesI never heard of this person before, but by God I will watch an hour-long video about him
0 likesWhen he was really big my English wasn't good enough to appreciate commentary channels, so I would steer clear of those, and watch more gaming stuff
He looks cute tho, glad to know there's leaked nudes
You didn’t see the dark side of Leafy for the first time with that rant, he was known for being toxic and extremely rage-y in the MCPvP community. This showed through in his video style more than anything else. Honestly his rant videos were calm in comparison. He also wasn’t that good and would only show himself fighting noobs in his vids lol.
0 likesWhat iDubbs ("Content Cop") did to leafy was so perfect. It was the most epic, public, and well-deserved bitch-slap in the history of YouTube. It was fucking art.
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you should really go back and watch it, it wasn't all that great looking back at it
1 like@YouAreProbablyAutistic I did rewatch it just before posting that comment. I loved it. iDubbs subjected leafy to the exact same kind of shitty treatment that leafy had subjected others to. And he did it in such an exaggerated obvious way that you couldn't help but see the irony. His message was basically "so I heard you like bullying..."
5 likesIt was great because it showed exactly what was wrong with leafy's videos. He was attacking leafy and simultaneously demonstrating why leafy deserved it. I stand by my opinion that it was pure genius.
@Mark O It was funny asf but probably the least deserved out of all the other content cops.
1 like@Brad Whisker I thought it was one of the most perfect examples of poetic justice I've ever seen in my life.
0 likes@Mark O yeah no I take it back it was
1 likeLeafy: It was simple satire.
0 likesEveryone else: What was it satirizing?
Leafy: books it out
It’s notable to me that when Leafy came back they silenced him in a much more harmful way, as well as how people like Idubbbz and Ethan have become hypocrites themselves. Nobody is safe on the internet.
0 likes2016 was such a good year
3 likesHow rich it is to see h3h3 call other bullies years later. Times have really changes. H3h3 is the most toxic person on the internet now, leafy was only in his way to the top of it all.
1 likeI sense something; a presence I’ve not felt since...
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Since 5 years ago...
292 likesno.......
253 likesIT CAN'T BE!!
It...... is happening
179 likesHe has......... returned....
195 likesoooooOOOOOOOOOH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
90 likes"Master"
84 likesI can hear.... a hissing in the distance.
122 likessince summer o' 16
65 likesMy Master has arrived... now things shall return to the natural order.
55 likesNOOOOOOOOO! The Reptilian-Gnome Empire has reemerged! what so ever will we do?!
41 likesMaŁiK Šmïth haha funny leaf go hissss
32 likesLeafy has gone full circle and is gonna play in mine craft monday
27 likesYep.
9 likesHe hasn’t made a video for like 2 years
2 likesSupa Player check again
4 likesHe.... is back....
6 likesLarvy Mrabet Yep.
3 likesI think it was either a hiatus or just him quitting the business for awhile.
2 likesHISSSSSS
2 likesno step on snek
KnuxMaster 368 Heck yeah
0 likesKnuxMaster 368 Hissssssss. Crocodile alligator
1 like...GULP... I hear soft hissing 😟
1 likeDaddy? i-is that you papa?
0 likesLeafy is backish
0 likesSound the horns...
3 likesHe’s here I will face him alone
2 likeshe is back...
0 likesHow do we stop him boys. I can take you to my secret bunker on discord so we can discuss how we take action.
2 likes@Stona Lisa i sadly dont have discord
0 likesThe leafy man has awakened......
1 likemasta
0 likesYou feel an evil presence watching you...
5 likesWe are truly back to 2016
0 likesThe nukes have dropped and only Leafy can thrive in this wasteland...
0 likesThe Return of The King
5 likesNot since Cybertron fell.
5 likesLeafy is back
0 likesWhy is 2020 such a clusterfuck like this
0 likesImpending doom approaches...
0 likesHere’s LEAFY!!!!!
0 likes@James R. based reference
0 likesNova7 V2.0 \
0 likes".... father-"
0 likesA disturbance in the force.
0 likes...and it was gone as quick as that :(
6 likesIt was all so bittersweet
7 likesHis channel is gone.
7 likesI dont feel the presence anymore...
8 likesIt died.......that presence.............eradicated
4 likesAnd it's gone again
3 likesF
1 likelol all the leafy fanboys are crying again
0 likesI'm listening to this hissing like this is ASMR lmao
0 likes7 years
0 likesEmp's production quality is so good, I just watched this whole video about some goober I've never heard of.
4 likesI rode the entire train, lurking in the beginning and spamming the dislikes once he had started falling and found other content, what a good documentary on the one the only Leafy
2 likesThis video was ahead of it's time. We got to see youtube blatantly suppress leafy in his short comeback.
1 like2016 will forever be one of the most culturally significant years of my lifetime
1 likeIt’s a shame that YouTube would rather promote SoundCloud rappers and Fortnight gamers than videos that share history about their own platform.
184 likesThank you EmpLemon. Probably the most informative 52 minutes I’ve spent on this site.
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I had to see the vid to check the duration.
3 likesI thought it was 20 mins, time flies fast in good content
omg same! I thought that I was watching for like 20 minutes :P.
1 likeYou entertained me for an hour straight. Take a like.
1 likeI love how pyrocynical outlasted every single one of these losers
3 likesHis channel was damaged so badly, that when Leafy came back, he fell merely months later repeating the same mistake of falling too deep into drama. It's like sailing the same route as the Titanic, but in an alternate timeline where climate change created even more icebergs instead of melting them.
2 likesBecuause of LeafyIsHere, I almost drowned into the dark side, I almost had the purpose to hate and completely forgot about my true purpose. I'm glad I just became a better person over time, now I'm going to achieve my future career (not YouTube). I already began a long time ago, and waiting for the result. Maybe I could become popular on YouTube someday, even if I wouldn't care about attention and views.
3 likesEDIT: The reason why I once had the purpose to rise on YouTube and then abandoned it is because not only being "overrun" is too much for me, but also because it's far from what I enjoy. Everyone has a unique purpose and source of joy. I could upload scientific videos on YouTube, but I don't care about number of views and subscribers, even if ONLY ONE of my videos become the most viewed.
god damn this video was a ride lmao
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PapaTimmy hey there papa
0 likeslol
0 likesWait you are a leafy rip off
4 likesInteresting how you changed your mind recently about your vídeos.
1 likeGood to know.
HOLY SHIT I can't believe how entertaining your videos are!! You are an inspiration
0 likes“Minecraft reached its cultural peak in summer 2013”
1 likeA Swedish guy, a sus mask and a couple of English children:
Holy shit I did not realise leafy is older than me, albeit only eight days. I remember when I first found him thinking this kid is funny, and I had stopped watching him by the time content cop happened so I'm fully onboard with the conspiracy.
2 likesI'm really glad this video exists considering that YouTube deleted Leafy's channel
1 likevery well constructed, thought provoking YT doc.
3840 likesthis series is EPIC
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Nice vids man.
3 likesAlienMyth64 heeey fellow fan here
2 likesAlienMyth64 Is it just me or does it feel as if LeafyIsHere is like the Saddam Hussien of YouTube?
6 likesAlienMyth64 its really not.
0 likesHey you it’s been 2 weeks
2 likesRAM RANCH
3 likesOk, this is epic.
6 likesAlienMyth64 ayeee emp you should check alienmyth64’s channel if you haven’t. Your both my favorite underrated youtubers
3 likesyeah, i LOVE YouTube Geographic. i remember all of these events when they unfolded, but his research always shows me things i never knew.
5 likesAlienMyth64 oh very nice
0 likesAlienMyth64 You TRAITOR!
0 likesAlienMyth64 Someone should like archive these videos because they're really good history.
3 likesOh shit its an alien
1 likeAaaayyyt lmao
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmao
0 likesAll we need is an eventual part two, with interviews with H3, iDubbbz, MrBlackDarkness, Keemstar and possibly even Leafy himself
1 likeRajwinder Gill he has. he even recommended him
0 likesHaha who cares tho
0 likesGreetings.
0 likesMost satisfying 51 minutes I've spent in a while, my dude. Great job
4 likesGood to see Leafy still hasn't changed in 2022 and is still posting "edgy" content with his tweets and other content...
1 likeThere will Never Ever be another youtube channel like LeafyIsHere
1 likeLeary’s made me laugh, your generally putting leafy down in this video and he simply isn’t as bad as you make him out to be
0 likesI love Emp's dedication to consistently quality content. It's great that this video is so long, yet so consistently well written and editited. I get the sense that Emp really cares about what he does. Keep up the good work.
85 likesWe lived through this. Amazing stuff
0 likesI think content cop didn't kill him, but it definitely helped. He started loosing subs in the greatest amount soon after content cop , then it mellowed to just under 0, so I think it it encouraged lots of unsubscribing for a bit, and youtube stopped growth
2 likesIt’s the small things that make Emp’s videos great. The All Caps instrumental is so satisfying
1 likeMan I miss leafy and his non existent chin. It's hard to think his channels been gone for like 4 years now. His fan base did suckass tho. Also YouTube did kill him they love cencorship, they killed Alex Jones along with Twitter and if you have less than favorable videos they won't show up on people's home pages even if they're subbed with the bell dinged.
1 likeNot to sound too much like an English teacher, but you displayed some impressive critical thinking and thorough research in this video, not to mention successfully creating a well made visual aesthetic (a.k.a. nice editing, man). Excellent Job! Definitely one of the better video essays I've seen in recent years.
208 likesHonestly, I've always thought Leafy's "Commentary over Gameplay" videos echoed 2007-2010 era call of duty videos where it was one unedited match with commentary just talking about life and stuff. Jschlatt's WeeklySlap is an exact match to this style while Leafy mostly moved to a new commentary style to rant/bully whoever every week
0 likesIf your all wondering what happened to Leafy himself he’s doing pretty well. So don’t worry for him he will be okay.
0 likesWatching this again after these years it's crazy what a come back Minecraft made.
1 likecan't believe that i actually agree with ethan. this seems to be a pattern with commentary that attacks others "satirically".
0 likesof course you cant control your fans, but the very least you could do is apologize to the person you hurt indirectly and tell your fans to stop bullying. It wont stop all the bullying, but at least advocate against cyberbulling and harassment.
these commentary youtubers cant just avoid their responsibility. Its not just the wierd mass comments, there are so many people who literally harass these victims. doxx them, tell them to kill themselves, body shame them, etc.
If they really are sorry, they woul at least apologize to the youtubers they hurt.
I guess this confirms emp’s theory. YouTube just deleted Leafy’s channel.
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@Lovelace ψ Did you not just speak your mind in this comment here? Cyberbullying is against the YouTube rules, if that's what you consider being no longer a viable platform for discussion then I hope you stay away from the vulnerable online, as it seems your idea of discussion is the harmful type that makes YouTube unsafe. People haven't "become" anything. It's just that the sensitive and marginalized are finally starting to obtain a voice now that places like YouTube are fighting against oppression. You are the one who is having a meltdown and failing to hold opposing thoughts in their head. By not understanding WHY leafy is banned and WHY what he was doing is banworthy, you yourself are guilty of what you accuse us of. I honestly don't get why you don't understand this because you yourself accuse ppl who are offended by Leafy as being unable to hold opposing thoughts in our brains, but it's clear you yourself are unable to hold two points of view in your mind at once, and are incapable of including a mind that wishes online platforms allow for safety from bullying. BTW none of this matters because Leafy broke YouTube terms of service for years, went away, and came back while continuing to break said TOS. It's no surprise he's banned.
40 likes@Danzel Glovington
168 likesA difference in opinion is one thing.
A difference in weight of meassures taken against those differences is another.
I was bullied in highschool because I wasn't taught how to defend myself and not because YouTube didn't ban their accounts.
@refresh I understand that, I see it as a need for balance. Believe it or not people saw Leafy as a role model. I'm all for not making yourself the easy target I think that's an important lesson, and taking some ridicule can be an effective way of learning it. I just think sometimes things go too far and I also like to see the authority or a professional step in when necessary (like removing bad behaving accounts from some internet spaces)
10 likes@Danzel Glovington In this case however the bully is the corporate overlords.
85 likesI could agree with you if the ban was for 1 week but permaban from a plattform who wants to be a plattform, not a publisher and be seen as somewhat safe... that is unbalanced and outright totalitarian.
I feel your point of view has validity, but I cannot reason why you'd let those totalitarian corporations or parties make you believe they are on your side when they use these totally unbalanced meassures.
They basically say what he did is not only wrong but that they will treat it as unforgivable and also specifically worse than anyone who wasn't banned. Good luck explaining that away and to be honest it would be bad luck if you could explain it because some things aren't to be explained-away but rather looked into the eye and resisted.
That is the "sane" left or the "heroic" and "good" left that is missing these days.
Someone willing to stand up for those disadvantaged by the system and letting their actions and way of standing up make it obvious to all that it's a good thing to stand up the way they do.
Not just random protest because it's trendy and some corporate and party overlords deem it so.
Again, I think balance is important but rebalancing should be balanced, transparent and not partisan.
Hope we're on the same page here.
@Danzel Glovington oh and thanks for your understanding reply. Our views might differ but we can discuss it in a civil manner - on the YouTube comments section, lol
44 likes@refresh np, I'm still firm that Leafys ban is a positive thing but you've provided a lot of nuance, of course I have no intention of sucking up to google or YouTube as a corporation, that doesn't mean I can't praise certain decisions as progress, even in small increments. It is good to read the replies, I dont think there's a need for every comment to try and change someone's mind, just offer a perspective.
15 likes@Danzel Glovington Bans and censorship can never be positive. Even if a person is universally despised, allowing them to be censored creates an amazingly "slippery slope" that quickly hurts everyone, like the hysteria we see on the modern surface web. The belief that anything is bad or morally wrong is subjective and giving the power to make those determinations for everyone to an entity will inevitably lead to that entity's subjective opinion being enforced upon those who disagree with its beliefs. Just wait until something comes up that you disagree with Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc about and then tell us it's positive.
58 likesExactly
3 likesI knew they would.
1 likeYouTube is so shit nowadays.
5 likes@Willy Wonka The 'funny' thing is that if we assume Leafy was the unfortunate beta tester for demonetization, the slippery slope already happened. YouTube went from shadow-banning Leafy (EDIT: And to be clear, Leafy was well within the 'deserved it' territory. Point is, what *followed*.) to an automated system of mass censorship that successfully hurts even the people it's supposed to be trying to protect.
15 likes@refresh bullying doesn't capture it, the sum of his behaviour on YouTube nevermind across multiple platforms would give a very solid ground for a criminal harassment charge in Canada where Pokimane lives. See: Canada Criminal Code RSC, 1985, c. C-46
3 likesIt seems pretty black and white to me why YouTube removed him
Fair to say this video aged quite well
3 likesDoing my duty reporting
0 likesHe might be back(sais in the tweets)
@Danzel Glovington he was cyber bullying before his return why didn't they delete the channel before hand
4 likes@rusted Yeah after seeing some more people talk about it I see now there's definitely something fishy going on with his ban, same with his twitch ban
3 likes@The King hey what's up?
1 likethey did?
0 likes@Danzel Glovington YouTube is shit anyways, there’s no “marginalized people gaining rights” it’s just a big corporation tryna be “woke” to not lose money
4 likesWhat is "Leafy" and why i can't find him on YouTube?
0 likesbut susan had to do it...
0 likes@Danzel Glovington Youtube is not trying to protect the oppressed, they are trying to make a squeaky clean platform that no brand can be offended by. They actively suppress LGB creators because certain markets (India and the Middle East) don't like these people. They are the same as every platform where brand identity and integrity has become the number one issue. Everyone who parrots the progressive speech rules are just useful idiots for the elite, and already it's backfiring. Pleroma (a decentralized twitter) was created because the ultra left have found themselves being removed from platforms, you can only make so much noise before its you who they will attack.
6 likesFree speech means free speech. One man's obscenity is another mans lyric (SCOTUS Judge John Harlan - Cohen Vs California 1971). You may disagree with Leafy and call him a bully, that may even be true, but who is to decide that. What entity are we going to allow to punish someone for speech, especially speech which can be ignored and silenced by the listener by simply turning it off. The only thing that should be the end of your right to speech is when it becomes violence. I say this as someone who stanchly hated Leafy, but as long as he never incited violence and didn't actually defame anyone he can say what he wants.
@A Impatient Man nice I love being kind to women. Guess it sucks to be y'all who enjoy harassing em.
0 likes@Willy Wonka idk man. If I was using anyone’s platform to say, express an attraction to children. Or express a tendency to violence against a group of people.. I wouldn’t blame them for censoring me.
1 likeIt is free speech for me to do. And I don’t disagree that it is important to take that for it’s good and bad. But it’s a private company. Let’s not confuse someone’s rights for a terns of service agreement.
This platform is owned by google. It is their say at the end of the day.
I would not want someone to come into my house, talk down to another guest and sit idle while their friends proceed to follow in their footsteps.
I just don’t think I a quite as simple preserving freedom of speech.
@The King calm down Itache, don’t shatter your precious ego lol. Brilliant insight. How long did it take you to think that one up?
0 likesYup the powers that be hated the powers we had in 2016 it was glorious
0 likesLeafy could've been like mr beast if he decided to go from making fun of people to giving away money.
1 likeI appreciate your forgiveness. You learn to find the truth, not just validate an emotion. Thanks for sharing that truth
0 likesIt's refreshing to hear a story about "The bad guy" without someone interjecting every few minutes to remind us that he did bad things. You told the story from beginning to end, from perspectives of the victims, the aggressors, the bystanders, virtue signallers, and vigilantes, and did it all without needlessly insulting anyone. YouTube Geographic earns it's status as the platform's most reputable history channel
5:50 Bring me back! I miss the carefree days where I'd get back from school, hop on my laptop, and game it out on some Minecraft or watch some Minecraft YouTube videos.
3 likesNever again will I have the amount of content to watch on YouTube as I did back then. I could watch anything Minecraft related and be satisfied. I remember a YouTuber I used to watch called PaperBatVG who posted a 10 hour long Minecraft 'Movie' and I watched it all the way through on the first go. Now I spend 15 minutes just scrolling through pages of shit that doesn't interest me at all until I find something that does (like this channel).
This man deserves way more subs
1 likeYour videos are fantastic. These are some of the only videos I see where no one is saying stuff like “pin me” or “17:41 lol” or “wow so deep” or some idiotic childish one off remark. These comments are long paragraphs, reflecting and more often than not adding to the topic of the video. It is highly impressive that emp has been able to keep his audience, and keep his intelligent audience. If only leafy had been able to do this, we may look at him through a different lens. Not to mention, these videos are incredibly well researched. Emp goes into the deepest corners of the internet to find his evidence, and find his points, and is able to keep the visuals intriguing and active for 51 minutes. I just can’t imagine how much time emp took to create this. And I’m grateful people like emp are willing to take their time to entertain us. I would wholeheartedly take this over National Geographic.
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Dude, you took the words out of my mouth, I couldn't agree more with what you said.
18 likes17:41 lol
11 likespin me
4 likes.
0 likesRIP Fantano (his channel)
0 likesThe problem was that leafy didn't have intelligent audience
1 likePin me
0 likesComing back to this thread 3 months later, and I want to commit die internal
0 likesMan this was a journey to watch today, looking back at youtube like this is crazy how did I enjoy doing this lol
0 likesThe fact that YouTube erased his channel without any warning proves your theory
6 likes5:48 "It would never be as popular"
1 likePewdiepie, Dream, the rest of the new generation of MCYT: Allow me to introduce myself
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Why did minecraft have to come back
0 likesI love how I witnessed every second of this in real time other than the minecraft bullshit
0 likesNow here’s an informative program that’s actually entertaining. Unlike what’s been on tv recently, good job once again mah boi. (Also, 42:40 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM!!!)
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Hey have you ever heard of Jimmy Kimmel
3 likesTHIS is what ALL true warriors strive for!
6 likesTV sucks YouTube is miles better
0 likesYouTube is better then modern television.
1 likeRiley Morgan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTeMC81FV0
0 likesHand-picked just for you.
Rip american educational system
1 likeMatthew Hagerty
0 likesYouTube is trying to become TV by promoting established news outlets, pushing uts new YouTube TV crap and becoming increasingly corporate.
i SWEAR that you commented here just because you were mentioned in the video
0 likesThe internet is a place for people to build others up then enjoy themselves while they watch them get torn down.
3 likesThis was sad story of a man who use his fame and power for his own gain. R.I.P Leafy 2011-2020
0 likesholy shit,it was so cool!the best documentary i've ever seen,i say this very seriously!
0 likesBack in those days I was being fiercely loyal to Ethoslab and didn't watch anyone else, so I had no idea any of this was even going on. Kind of feel like I missed out.
0 likesI'm sure 80 percent of viewers are going to simply disregard this video due to its length. That truly makes me sad.
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Yep. :')
5 likesKids these days
5 likesAlex Reppert I watched the whole thing and i regret nothing,this is more professional than a lot of other tv documentaries
7 likesWell it's not like Emp cares about it anyway, he made it perfectly clear enough times.
1 likeCheesetastical Sam so true. i really should sleep but the video is soo goood . i wanna know the whole story
0 likes5:30 “Minecraft would reach its cultural peak”
2 likes-emplemon 2018
at this point youtube geographic has to be a genre.
1 likeFrom 2021, and with daily youtube viewing. I've yet to see any single Leafy related media getting resurfaced by the algorythm like all these obscure videos
1 likeAfter watching this video, I have learned that there is more to this story.
0 likesWoah. Okay, that was a lot to take in. This was more than a simple recount of events. You dug deep into the impact of Content Cop, and also a potential major conspiracy on Youtube's end. I haven't been this blown away by a video in a while. If this doesn't pick up big-time, I won't know what to think. You definitely deserve it.
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Game Revo check out his vid on Trump. Its even better!
1 likeI think this video will probably get blackholed when someone at YT realizes it's not just about leafy, but a direct accusation of corruption.
10 likesbro your music selection in your videos is nuts, old school hip hop to pink floyd , i love it
5 likesThe music scores on these documentaries is almost as good as the material itself. QUALITY stuff
0 likes“It would never again be as popular.”
2 likesAbout that…
Here's the thing about Leafy getting banned. The precedent for "bullying" and "harassment" content on YouTube had already been set months before when the Leafy Conent Cop and Gokanaru's H3 expose were both taken down. When Leafy came back, he was the same insecure cyberbully that he was before he left and he made dozens of personal attack videos on one specific person. At the same time, he was cocky and constantly bragged about what he was getting away with. He never changed despite having the opportunity to change.
2 likesYou can complain about YouTube terminating his channel all you want, but he was too stupid to realize the content he was making went against every guideline the website had created. He was a toxic bully who deserved what happened to him.
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I love how you call him stupid. He didn’t care about getting banned. He was literally asking for it and by making a thread on this, you’re feeding into what he wants.
1 likeKeep licking the boots
0 likesJust watched 50 minutes of a Leafy documentary in december 2018.
648 likesAnd loved every second of it.
Great job, man.
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same though
0 likesVictor Fischer Missfeld same
0 likesMe too
0 likesIt's almost 5 a.m. I don't know why I'm here
Nah the dude was always toxic. Even in his Minecraft days he was known for being a scammer who would use his servers to nickel and dime his user base. He was a teenage scammer, then he became a toxic YouTuber. Even if he was disposed of with shady methods he deserved the public humiliation.
2 likesI can't believe this video only ever got 3.8million views. It's one of my favourite videos of all time.
0 likesI like the use of the titanic metaphor. Similarly, the iceberg is the content cop, while YouTube’s meddling is the incompetence of the crew and everything that went wrong.
1 likeMr. darkness was playing a character and he trolled leafy hard. Leafy bought it hook line and sinker. Also Mr. darkness did make a video lifting the curse from leafy.
1 likeYour theory about YouTube burying Leafy surreptitiously seems highly likely to me. The only thing that makes it a bit questionable to me is that Keemstar was also included in the Tower Dog memo. However, it's also likely the Keem would have been better equipped than Leafy to work something out with YouTube behind the scenes.
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Whang! Ayyy its Whang! Didn't expect to see you here, although now that I think about it...why wouldn't you be 😅
6 likesIt is an interesting theory, but we have never seen such a thing happen again. It is more the combination of many factors along with his hubris that was his real downfall. Besides, Leafy's content is not sustainable as his audience inevitably grows up and move on. Drama Alert will be on a similar path as YouTube cracks down on content creators behaving badly which is Keemstar"s bread and butter.
2 likesWhang! But what if, leafy stoping making videos was also an inside job, with other social media doing the same to his posts there?
0 likesDid Leafy have a big community/following outside of the Youtube platform? Keemstar has about 2.5 million followers on Twitter... Even if he's censored on Youtube, his promoting a new upload on Twitter would seemingly help his views stay at least stable and relevant. Especially since he tags other big creators, getting even more attention.
1 likeLeafy posting on social media seems like it would be a yell into the void, reaching only his most dedicated fans.
I also think the reason keemstar got popular again was because scarce disappeared
2 likesTicTacP leafy hated twitter. It was also hacked at some point and never got it back. He was just like fuck it. I see where he's coming from. Twitter is such a worthless time suck. But if you're trying to be a successful YouTube creator these days you gotta be on all the social media
0 likesWhang! Scarce was included in the memo and just recently talked about some video tests that he did where any video that he uploaded was instantly demonetised... coincidence?
2 likeshi Whang!
0 likesLook again at keems analytics, his supper peak of subscribers that saved him happened in summer of 2017, what was the main thing he was reporting on in that time, the paul brothers, and what does the youtube algorithm love to promote, well before they fucked up is the the paul brothers, they were the faces of you tube at this time, and by reporting on them keems videos were able to get back into the algorithm and he was saved
1 likeWell Keem is the Batman version of youtubers, he always seems to have a plan that'll make him bigger and stronger then what he was before!
0 likesSo what's your thoughts now
0 likesThis will sound like a stupid question I’m sure:
0 likesIf YouTube never implemented demonitization, advertiser guidelines, and never did anything to influence Leafy’s channel specifically, then would his channel still exist right now as it did?
Also side note: Given the copyright system, I’m amazed that Emplemon got away with using Surfin USA unedited for a few seconds.
0 likes@Nigerian Jesus he's more like the balding supervillain from an offbrand version of batman, can't fucking believe nobody's buried him yet
0 likesI think one thing that is important to remember about Keemstar during this time is that his channel was constantly under attack by YouTube headquarters in general. My memory may serve me wrong and I'm too deep into finals right now to go down the Keemstar rabbit hole, but I remember him being really big on Twitter and Twitch ant this time, and even then catching flak from Twitch for essentially harassing people. He still kept his audience, and when he eventually came back to YouTube they just - followed. He's always been kind of a gypsy; it just feels like YouTube has bigger fish to fry at this point - and of course a little bit of payout.
0 likes"minecraft surpassed its cultural peak in 2013, it would never again be as popular"
2 likeslmao
"Any logical defense he could have made didn't matter - beacuse he had a weird chin."
4 likesThis was great but I have to say I disagree with your conclusion. Leafy wasn't THAT blinded by success. If even I, who was a 16 year old edgy teen during his peak, started seeing how wrong it was of him to bully children/people who were clearly mentally ill, then there's no way he didn't see it as a 20 years old. His rants were really funny early on, but they quickly became just straight up personal attacks on people, mocking their appearance or way of speech, and also literally mocking some 10-13 year old children who were trying to make a youtube channel themselves. He knew it was wrong, he was just too self absorbed to ever draw the line. He said himself that he's an asshole, but he knows he is so that makes it ok (?). nope. He might have been too immature to understand the full extent of damage his content did to people, but he is no way a victim. I'm glad he was driven out of youtube and twitter.
1 likeChris Smoove was one of the most popular YouTubers in 2011-2012 and he was doing unrelated commentary over gaming footage, 3-4 years before you say it was unheard of lol
2 likesThis actually makes me anxious about YouTube. After watching this, it's pretty clear that YT was likely behind Leafy's demise. My question is: will they do it again?
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Erick Alden They do it constantly, you just don’t notice it because it’s hidden behind a bunch of shit the average YouTube watcher don’t bother with.
148 likesThey did it for the Yogscast. Just watch GameTheory's video on it
51 likesThey already have.
12 likesErick Alden oh really?
1 likeMichael Woodward WHAT?!
2 likesTsiikunii Oh No, Man. XD
1 likeI think Leafy was behind Leafy's demise.
20 likesThey might be already doing it....
6 likesI mean... do you ever see any Paul videos in your recommendation?
(that are not from drama channels)
There is no free growth on this site you grow if YouTube wants you too
0 likesAfter the YouTube shooting we can only hope YouTube changes there ways
but he deserved it tho.
1 likeImplying they're not doing it right now.
2 likesMichael Woodward
0 likesGod damn I forgot about the Yogscast
They constantly do it. After Pewdiepie's shift towards not being lovable jump-scare boi anymore even he gets a fraction of his subs as views on each video, never gets on USA trending despite gaining more views faster than countless other content on the trending page and even though I am subscribed I have to dig for his videos in my recommended. They pop up once on my homepage, if I dont watch them immediately, I have to go directly to his channel, search, or to my sub feed to find it.
11 likesLander Chad Pagalanan The Paul brothers kind of killed their own popularity outside of the preteen demographic. Not to mention after the whole suicide forest debacle, I can’t see any of them, ESPECIALLY Logan, appearing on the front page of YouTube for a long time.
1 likeLander Chad Pagalanan no, cause from the first place I steered clear from that shit
0 likesYouTube is clearly trying to knock pewdiepie out since he doesn't bow down like the Pauls
6 likesits youtube they will strike again
1 likeYoutube want family friendly content, it's obvious. It won't ever happen again because there's no way a channel like leafy would rise up again ever, especially that fast. They want Jake Paul, KSI, Tan Mongeau. They do not want politically incorrect behaviour, I'm surprised PewDiePie hasn't been blackballed yet
3 likesMUMKASHI
2 likesThey are, look what they're trying to do to Pewdiepie
2 likesCreepypasta.com
2 likesRIP Mumkey
@Lander Pagalanan well, the Paul brothers probably make YT alot kf money, so killing then wknt do much good for them. I mean, in the video, it shows that his videos are pg-teen, even though this js CLEARLY false.
0 likes@Lander Pagalanan but for other channels, like PewDiePie, possibly.
0 likes5:50
1 like"I hasnt been more popular since then"
2020: Allow me to introduce myself
6:45 I wonder if that STAR_ project ended up getting scrapped, seeing his "What happened to the old STAR_?" video was pretty heartbreaking.
1 like"The Titanic... The story always ends the same way."
1 likeUnless your a European cartoonist.
MF DOOM over the leafy hiss shitposting is giving him wayyy too much supervillain credit haha
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good that you remembered all caps when you spelled the name
2 likeswow.. I just watched through that whole thing and I have to admit, I never thought I would watch a documentary about a youtube nerd for almost an hour and not get bored. The production quality was insane and the effort and research put into it almost makes me question how much effort actual documentary producers put into their own works. Incredible video putting a less common view on a subject that I was also once part of. Thank you, for letting leafy go.
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Couldnt describe it better.
7 likesYou and me both
0 likesPure brilliance
0 likeshondjo .
0 likesI had to check the video time when you said "Almost an hour."
2 likesIt honestly did not feel like 51 minuets. I guess that foes to show you how interesting he makes the topic seem.
I hate leafy but you call him a nerd...
0 likesI never thought I'd be using an EmpLemon video as a reference for a paper I'm writing about LeafyIsHere for a college final. Thanks, I guess.
1 likeYou’re the best bro!! Keep it up!
1 likeHow tf is emperor lemon still a YouTuber after all of his talks about YouTube’s censorship
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Half his videos are demonetized /age restricted though 👁
1 likeDidn’t know that, makes a lot of sense though
0 likesFun Fact: at 26:12 , you can see the screenshot change from not being subscribed to h3h3 to being subscribed.
1 likeR.I.P leafy
389 likesthank you for inspiring me
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BOTATO ta nta atmot a zbi
2 likesnope lmgharba makimotoch hhaha
6 likesBOTATO have you seen my cat?
1 likePotato
1 like#ATTENDTHEAFGHANISTAN
0 likesInspired to do what ? And by what ?
0 likestanta abotato ghadi f nfass trii9 daylo falldown
0 likesYeah...rip...the reason why I quit YouTube because its depressing to make videos.
0 likesAllahu akbar brother
0 likesYou have great taste in music, man.
1 likethis video is amazing, and the music? incredible
2 likesthe establishment hate him so much
4 likesYour editing is phenomenal
1 like2016: Leafyishere
3890 likes2017:Leafyisgone
2020:Leafyisback
2020:Leafyisgoneagain
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2021: this time Forever.
116 likes2016: LeafyisHERE
47 likes2017: LeafyisGONE
June 2020: LeafyisBACK
August 2020: LeafyisDEAD
wait i dont get it what happened 3 months ago do you have a good video explaining?
4 likes@boomer funny jim gaffigan Leafy got banned 3 months ago for making a video on Pokimane
33 likesShould be for 2020: Leafywashere
16 likes2020: Weafy
6 likes2020:leafyisbackagain
6 likes2020: Leafy got terminated forever
4 likes2019: MadameisHere
1 like????: leafy is everywhere
0 likes2059:LeafyisDEAD
1 likedon't forget minecraft being gone and back too!
1 likeLeafyis on storyfire
0 likesHis story can be titled:
0 likesRise and fall and rise and fall of Leafyishere
2021: back with a different channel
1 likeLess then 6 months later: weafyisgone
@. I think you should add the fact that he milked the harassment
1 like@tailsboi75 oh
0 likes@Insert username you predict that he will die at 67/68 years old?
0 likes2021: DOCTOR NEFARDIO
0 likes2021:leafylucky
2 likes2021: Luckyishere
0 likes@INCEL aaaaand he's gone again
1 like2150:WhatsaLeaf?
0 likesRip
0 likes2021:Leafyisbackontwitter
0 likes@Grade Y 2022:leafyisnothere
0 likesThe end of leafy reminds me a bit about how YouTube hard-banned the Yogscast from the front page. Even if they were to peak again, they will never be suggested to new users, and so they've kinda died a bit too.
1 likecaptain sparkles Reddit videos are actually really cool and chill to watch, he has also been doing them consistently for more then 3 years. Good video so far, just that rubbed me the wrong way I guess.
1 likeIts funny how at the end it started as a conspiracy while now its pretty much proven.
0 likesI both love and hate the use of ALL CAPS in a video about this guy of all people. Great one all the same!
1 likeim on Youtube since 2007 or 2008 and never saw a vide of Leafy ever, ive always heard other Youtber talking abiout him or making small little jokes about him and i never really though about him. i always was like "if hes a channel that is worth to watch than youtube will maybe recommend him" but that never happend. This video was perfect for me because i really had no single clue what is story is or was and to hear the full story from beginning to end was really interesting, Thank you for the Vid :)
0 likesThe fact youtube deleted his channel only validates your theory even more
1 like"Minecraft surpassed its cultural peak...it would never again be as popular."
16 likes06:25 - Reminds me of PewDiePie reading out criticisms about how his content became stale and repetitive only for him to remind everyone how nobody gave a shit when he made 75+ happy wheels videos back to back
1 likeNow that he is permabanned, leafy indeed was here.
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Instead of silently shadowbanning him, they just went with the direct approach
48 likesHAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? I was going to ask..they basically shadow banned him right? He’s acting like this is a conspiracy but YouTube does it all the time. I know this video was awhile ago but still..
18 likes@JNKN I feel like he's either revealing it publicly or showing how Leafy was one of the first ones to receive that
12 likesHAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? Yeah that makes more sense. Leafy may have been one of the first to be shadow banned. Thanks
2 likesI guess this confirms emp’s theory. YouTube just deleted Leafy’s channel.
2 likesYes
0 likesThe nostalgia hits hard, some of the people that appear here are aither a husk, a misserable shell of what they used to be. Or they are no longer here, or they just faded away... but hey, I REMEMBER WHEN WE ALL HATED KEEMSTAR.
1 likeHonestly, I LOVE the use of MFDOOM's songs in your videos, I think this was the best one because of how it portrayed the feeling of the Reptilians situation.
4 likesGreat story telling and music choices.
0 likes"Minecraft surpassed its cultural peak in 2013, it would never again be as popular"
1 likeI mean, we have the benefit of hindsight here in 2021,but wow
what I can say is that your theory in my case is completely true, in 2016 I was a big fan of those drama channels like leafy, gradeAunderA, scarce and so on and so on because to me it was entertaining to see those mongoloids throwing insults at each other, also, at that same time period in which leafy started to decline I noticed that I haven't been watching as many of his videos because he kinda faded away, I couldn't find him at the home page, recomended list, and EVEN at my subscriptions tab. After leafy faded, so kinda did all of the other channels, some literally poofed out of existence (R.I.P. gradeAunderA, 9 months after his supposed 'comeback' he still didn't upload a video), and others content just got old (In this case scarce, mainly his videos are about celebs roasting eachother back and forth in my view). So I just want to add another thing to the death of leafy, as you said, he didn't change his content after he got roasted and still kept going, and like minecraft, that genre of videos just got stale with age. I know that you probably won't see this comment anyways and that this will be lost to the darkest depths of youtube, but to be honest, I don't have anything better to do :DDDDDD. I've been watching youtube every day for atleas 4 hours since 2008 or 9, and it's weird to see a channel like yours, that is reflecting on the past of youtube, because I can remember myself being there (for instance the whole leafy thing i just wrote about) and I wanted to say thanks for doing the content that you do, it's nice to see that I'm not the only person that's lived through this rollercoaster of a ride we call youtube
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Destro Wait, Did GradeAUnderA die? or was that more of a way of saying that his channel is dead
0 likesDestro This is a very strange age we live in when videos on Youtube history get me more excited than the most hyped media in existence.
3 likesDestro Jesus mate did you just write an entire English easy on a fuckin meme video
5 likesNot a meme video, says so right there.
3 likesSame here
0 likesMikhail Mcmorrow What are you 11? I can guarantee you didn't even watch the whole video if your gonna complain about a long paragraph.
0 likesMikhail Mcmorrow my comment was more like a thank you letter to emplemon in strange way
0 likesI used to animate, none of the videos are up anymore but I put hours into it and one time didn’t sleep for days just practicing trying to improve, I got unmotivated more and more because originally I got a couple views and a small amount of people liked me, it was enough, but then they forgot about me, nobody watched anymore, on an impulse I deleted it all because I felt I was the problem it wasn’t good enough and that I should just quit, I know this is a strange rant for this video but animation isn’t worth the effort, years later I did one speed run in a vr game as an excuse to exercise and I got more views then ever before, sure my legs hurt after but the physical pain was better than the mental pain and sleep deprevation but that time I didn’t have the motivation to keep going, my motivation got kicked to the curb long ago, I used to want to be an animator as a job but with everybody wanting to do so the demand will be pretty low for them, there will be so many options, I’ve accepted that now and I’ve settled for graphic design and I’m now fully studying that, my dreams were kicked to the curb early and I learned it doesn’t matter how passionate you are anymore and I’ll never succeed doing what I love
2 likesThe tree metaphor, while on the nose, is well executed and beautiful
3 likesFWIW on a platform as huge as youtube, Content Cops' 2/7 kill rate is outstanding
0 likesMaybe the real leafy was the friends we made along the way
3 likesGood lord. The sheer amount of effort, research, backstory, storytelling, comparison, and hypothesis Put in by EmpLemon is leagues above and beyond anything else anyone is or has made on YouTube. Please keep making YouTube Geographic. It’s something we all need in our YouTube lives
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Sean Collins reminds me of prettygood
0 likesman 2016 was THEE year. so much crap went down
2 likesThe bojack horseman intro though. Damn right in the nostalgia
1 likeThe ending gave me chills
1 likeAh yes I remember watching leafy in his prime. I’m covering my chin rn real ones get it
1 likeIn English class, we're reading Shakespeare, specifically Macbeth, and I feel like it's pretty similar to what happened with Leafy.
2353 likesMacbeth is about a Scottish warrior who sees a chance to become king and takes it. To do so, he does horrible things, he kills the king to take his place, and after becoming king, even stabs his best friend Banquo in the back simply to maintain his position. In the end, his power corrupts him, and eventually, even his own people turn on him. His downfall ended up being because he let his lust for power get to his head. The English army, a force far greater than his, came to his castle and even still he believed himself to be invincible, until it was far too late.
Leafy saw making commentary videos tearing down people lower than him as an opportunity to be king of Youtube I guess you could say. All the while not realizing he was doing anything wrong. He stabbed his friend Keemstar in the back to maintain his place on top. He kept doing bad things, treading deeper and deeper into dark water, until a force came in and stopped him, call it Content Cop, or Youtube. Leafy rode the wave all the way down, and never really realized his mistake, and looking back it makes you think. Was it really Leafy's fault?
The tale of leafy is a classic Shakespearean tragedy, Leafy started as a good meaning boy, who saw an opportunity, and taking it, he became successful, but not realizing it his once noble actions became negative, and his lust for power took control of him, his hamartia. The crisis happens, Peripeteia aka TommyNC, leafy makes his first error in judgement (making fun of an autistic kid) setting him in an unknowing downward spiral. He continues on his path, not learning from his actions all the way until the catastrophe, in Macbeth's case the raid on his castle, or in leafy's case, the raid on his channel. In the end, both of them perished, but started with good intentions, but they both begin to corrupt, and finally, ride their fading wave until it crashes overtop of them.
Lol if only leafy paid attention in school
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But who was Leafy's Lady Macbeth? Was it not she who tempted Macbeth to sin in the first place? Was it not she who destroyed the good man that once was?
78 likesCrazy Chocolate Monkey perhaps leafy's subcount was his lady macbeth
206 likesKing Chungus I’m with you on this. The sub count that continued to rise was as deceiving as Macbeth’s wife. The more subs Leafy got, the more untouchable he felt he was.
124 likesTHOSE WHO FAIL HISTORY CLASS ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT
105 likesCrazy Chocolate Monkey His Lady Macbeth was the beautiful tinfoil hat wearing man with like 3 teeth and made videos proclaiming his love for Leafy.
14 likesThePhantomac the whole keem Star shit is debatable. Keemstar isn’t exactly an innocent person.
11 likesThePhantomac wow. I can see the parallels now
2 likesThen that also makes TommyNC Duncan and H3H3 Malcolm.
9 likesFunny how most of leafy’s 12 year old edgelords are like 15-16 now in high school, where does time go
10 likesHoly shit I am doing a project where I had to compare MacBeth to something else
9 likesThe best comparison to my project actually happened
@Bumberton's Delight The Case of 'LeafyBeth' syndrome, doomed to repeat one of Shakespeare classic tragedies.
2 likesCongratulations I'm your 1,000th like
0 likesBruh can i use this for my essay
0 likesWhat kind of a scott is called Banquo?
0 likesTeacher: what have you learned from this book?
5 likesKenzie: pulls out phone and goes onto his comment
Teacher: A++++++++-+
a wise man once said
2 likes"your letting the fame get to your head, The fame has gotten so much into your head it has went through the ceiling"
Hey just saying, power doesn't corrupt, power reveals. Leafy would have only ever avoided doing evil out of fear. He'd do dirty deeds as long as it was profitable.
4 likes@bdjsjshhehehd in the case of his british edgelords some might be studying macbeth now for their gcse's. Now that I thought about it, even though I study macbeth for the GCSE's, it never occurred to me that a comparison between the play and leafy could be drawn.
2 likesokay but did god have any influence in the raid on macbeths castle?
0 likesWe needed someone like Leafy tho... so people can see what shit people are putting out here or in life overall, I'll agree attacking kids is easy. But he's not just a cynical dick
0 likesI ike how you end the comment
0 likesHistory does tend to repeat, over and over.
1 likeIn the core, people dont change.
@Crazy Chocolate Monkey Whelp, now we know from recent vids that it was Idubbbz's girlfriend
0 likesmultigaming27 yeah he was
1 like@Crazy Chocolate Monkey YouTube fame was lady Macbeth...
0 likesbut did Macbeth return to call his people simps to then be shut down by god himself? Didn't think so bud
1 likeA literal masterpiece of a YouTube video
0 likeshe was also banned from Twitch a couple of days ago
1 likeI miss LeafyIsHere. I think a lot of people do.
1 likeIf there will never be another channel's like Leafy, does that mean this video would technically be a Never Ever episode as well?
0 likesIdubbbz brought the gun, YouTube loaded it but it was Leafy himself who pulled the trigger
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Beautiful... just beautiful.
13 likes2 years late, but...
2 likesIt's more of "YouTube brought the gun, loaded it, and Leafy pulled the trigger, then iDubbz took the credit for the kill allowing YouTube to get away with it."
I swear, Dream will end up like this soon.
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He’s already going through the same situation, I don’t think he does the same sh it as leafy (like making commentary videos on small YouTube’s for everyone to see) but he’s getting a lot of hate for his fanbase and people are trying to deplatform him
0 likes'it would never again be this popular" lmao
3 likesI did like some of the new videos. (take this part with a grain of salt) The only problem was he didn't fully change, basically, he taunted H3 with a clip in most of his videos thinking that ha! I can continue doing this but more mature! and for youtube...yeah...the 2020 youtube line was crossed and that killed him, twice. (i might be wrong and missed some things so tell me what I missed)
0 likesMake a part 2 pretty please!
0 likesYou're like a internet history teacher or even better historian and I love it.
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Darkcyndermaya -
24 likesNot as good as Internet Historian, though.
The internet It's more complicated than this
6 likesMr lemon
0 likesHigh VVizard Lizard agreed
0 likesI say a YouTube historian, sounds better
2 likesInternet historian is the god of this genre. Nobody can beat what he does
4 likesHigh VVizard Lizard
0 likesI do like that so I fixed it.
LOL i saw your original comment and then saw the edited version right after i finished watching the video
0 likesSpicy
0 likesYeah I fixed it because I didn't want to type I agree everytime someone said it.
YT definitely consinred to crush leafy. They do it all the time to kill channels they dont like.
1 likeInteresting video, would like a follow up now that he is gone... Me personally actually really liked Leafy’s content but I was never part of the Toxic community, so I guess I didn’t quite see that part of him. Sure I heard about it, but not much more than that. The question is, is YouTube truly a better place without Leafy? A lot of people have been saying that YouTube is and has been going down hill over the last couple of years, so the question stands, what if the lizard king was still around?
0 likes"Minecraft Has reached its Peak popularity in 2013, it will never be as popular ever since".
7 likesDream: I'm Gonna Ruin this mans whole career
Pretty crazy looking at this video now and seeing channels like Dream pop up and gain tens of millions of subscribers after Minecraft Rebounded. I think of Leafy stuck to Minecraft content, he may still be here today.
0 likesAs a leafstorian myself, you got everything on point. Perfect, too perfect, consistent editing , mentions of his old channel and deep analysis. I applaud you EmpLemon.
72 likesMan, crazy to finally watch this video. I actually used to watch Leafy back when he made Minecraft youtube videos.
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HIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
0 likes“Minecraft surpassed its cultural peak in summer of 2013, it would never again be as popular.”
2 likes44:35 Honestly despite being one of his fans and subscribed to him long after the Content Cop, no, I hadn’t see any of his videos in my recommended, in fact, I didn’t even know he started uploading again after like two years of inactivity. This is really similar to what happened to Mumkey Jones
0 likesThe fact Emperor really played All Caps makes me smile (R.I.P MF DOOM)
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this video actually introduced me to MF Doom back in 2018
1 likeinstantly demonetized due to the fact that EmpLemon is telling the truth about youtube
2585 likesalso thx for some history on yt emp!
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Hi
4 likesPeople have told the truth about youtube millions of times EmpLemon is doing nothing different lmao
9 likes+Karoler But did any of them mention TowerDog's leaks?
19 likesAyy memetastic
1 likeHenlo
1 likeMemetastic oh hey like your videos also that’s a good comment
0 likesFr though, no ads on my video.
1 likeWhy does he say expose exposAy
1 likeYa they even changed it so that when you search up leafy his channel comes up now.
0 likesDoesn’t matter anyway cause the vid was claimed by 2 record labels
0 likesthe hypocrite is here
15 likesalso the le happy merchant meme
1 likeWhen you think the video is over but you are actually only 26 minutes into a 52 minute video
0 likes2016: Leafyishere is disliked by everyone, IDubbbz is a treasured internet icon.
1 like2020: IDubbbz is disliked by everyone, Leafyishere is a treasured Internet icon.
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Oh look it rhymes
0 likesThis aged so, so well.
0 likesInteresting, I was a leafy viewer for years then suddenly he was just gone, or I stopped getting him in my recommended feed and I just said "meh". Now I understand what happened, thanks.
0 likesI was there for this whole debacle. This video is like wave upon wave of painful nostalgia. Thank you. This is art.
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Agreed
1 likeI felt like I was in 2015 again
0 likesI come from the year 2021, he came back to Youtube at 2020, but got ban hammered to oblivion by YouTube itself.
1 likeI've never heard of leafy, I'm grateful to have heard of u 🙏
3 likesyknow I know a lot of emplemon's content for this series doesn't always age all too well but damn this one is just aged like fine cheese
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Wdym i think this whole series is still pretty correct and all, not much has changed.
0 likeswhen you appeal to a young demographic and all your demographic grows out of you.
0 likesI remember sitting back, watching all of this happening. It was really something. And looking back at it, it's quite nostalgic and hilarious.
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same here lol
0 likesMark Mason Leafy at least felt real
0 likesMe too :')
0 likesVisserin your pfp is great
0 likesMark Mason Youtube is becoming an anime at this point
0 likesMaybe the real leafy was the friends we made along the way
1 likeThis is some next level journalism!
0 likes27:58
4 likesemp finna get cancelled for casual use of the happy merchant. I think he's just smart though.
This video truly made me realize how fucked up YouTube is and to a bigger extent Google
0 likesI wonder where he is now. I can imagine people recognizing him in his day job and he'd just curl into a ball.
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DammitSinged he doesn't have a day job. He's rich. Hes been in Europe travelling for the past 7 months. I talked to him like 2 months ago. He said he was thinking about making a comeback but he's afraid everyone still hates his guts. I feel bad for him. He's actually a pretty cool dude
522 likesMatt Petty how did you talk to him
97 likesHe could make a comeback by "trying to reform", and then go back into his old habits... because as much as people threw hate at him, it was just the bandwagon effect. Once he seems to be reformed, people will grow bias for him, and then he can go back to his old ways.
141 likes"I'm reformed!" -> YouTube remonitizes his videos -> new viewers come in -> toxicity subtly returns -> remains partially reformed to keep the viewer gates open
(and I don't use "toxicity" in a negative way... toxicity is good for entertainment)
i mean he could quite honestly pull it off, member sam pepper? that nigga is currently streaming with ice poseidon and has an average of 1k viewers on his stream
18 likesBruh saw you in YIAY congrats man
3 likesmatt you should tell him just because people thin hes a prick dosnt mean they hate him
1 likeNight0wl14 I play a couple games with him like once every 6 months or so on average
3 likesPizzerizgud yeah I would probably assume I was lying too. It's not really the kind of thing you'd see someone in the YouTube comments telling the truth about lol. But for what it's worth im not
11 likesPizzerizgud understand I'm not claiming to be besties with the guy. The extent of my interaction with him is strictly through online gaming and that pretty infrequently
19 likesMatt Petty That would be cool honestly
3 likesMatt Petty where did you find him?
1 likeSatan no i want him back he can change
5 likesMatt Petty He could make a comeback, just look at Keemstar a year or 2 ago. Everyone hated him and his channel was dead at under a million subs. Now he’s almost at 4 million, and is mostly liked.
22 likesYoutube is actually a hellhole for creators atm
11 likesyou mean human garbage right?
0 likesSatan Hey, he probably has matured out of his younger self by now
9 likesMilbox R pretty much the same thing built ricegums channel and look where he is....
3 likesAntonio Vrdoljak We played csgo every now and then.thsts where I first met him. A couple other games alot less frequently. One of the few things I clearly remember talking to him about way back then was him telling me I should play Minecraft it's the shit. I told him Minecraft is shit lol. But to reiterate we were never like best buds or anything
4 likesSatan well not much I can say to that. His vids weren't for everyone. You love him or you hate him
5 likesThe Meatballcake87 true enough. He never mentioned any youtubers to me keem or otherwise though. he got irritated if you tried to bring up his content while playing. That's probably why he would invite me to play i assume. Im good and I dont give a shit if he was on YouTube
7 likesMatt Petty hopefully he does comeback I mean if he's changed and has matured then I don't know maybe YouTube might change from the hell hole it becam, I still remember watching him seeing the rise and fall of his channel when his channel died that brought out the begging of censorship from YouTube I don't know maybe if he did make a comeback that'd show YouTube they can't silence their creators , if his redemption was good enough perhaps he could be the one to lead the charge against the current state of YouTube
1 likeMatt Petty have you heard from him recently?
3 likesMatt Petty Did you meet him in person?
1 likeMatt Petty good intel I see that you have ima comment just to get updates on this situation
1 likeCoaster lol good idea. I'll copy you and comment for the updates.
0 likesBrother Noah I dont feel as if his content was originally negative. His cynical side even though yes it wasnt all sunlight and rainbows I liked that he seemed like he was toying with his prey before his fanbase ripped the subject of video apart, I feel like he got a really shitty wrap
2 likesGod that's scary.
0 likes@This Guy hedoes deserve the money he made. Yes his content was toxic but that's what people craved back then.
2 likesBrother Ghost na probably not
0 likesFunny how satan suggests that leafy shouldn't come back. Must be a friend of onision.
4 likesMatt Petty if you’re telling the truth and you happened to still speak to him you should convince him to come back. maybe at least on social media. plenty of us miss him.
4 likesThis Guy that is kind of a pointless thing to do
0 likesMatt Petty any updates? It’s been three months ever said anything else since? Hopefully a comeback?
3 likesI could dig a comeback. Youtube just isn't as interesting without its villain man. It's like a marvel movie with just the heroes. Fucking terrible. Jake paul and Logan paul are the only "villains" we have. One filmed a corpse, oh god loose your mind time, it's not like dead bodies are in movies, tv shows, music videos, books, etc...Totally. And suicide? Can't joke about that, I mean....<Chlorox Bleach.exe file not found.> So yes, a comeback would be nice. Villains are important, and I always like this villain, chin or no.
3 likesI know it is strange request , but you can check that's my real name and i am completely honest in my words. I am a writer of 12 books if that brings any value to my words. Do you know how i can contact that boy, since i couldn't even find an email. Leafy. I think i can help him return and be bigger than ever.
2 likesMatt Petty can you tell me how to contact him please
0 likesWell, Keemstar just made a video about him lol. Interview with Leafy himself lol.
0 likes@Spaghetti Boy Agreed. I dislike Leafys content. I wish he lost all of that money that made him rich. Money that he never gave to his editors. Money he never gave to anyone but him self. Looking out for #1 as they say.
0 likes@chi I won't ever understand why people still like him. Only simple answers are given to me, "He was funny". Yeah right.
0 likesBring back Leafy
0 likesPizzerizgud even if he is lying, it is factually true that Leafy has been traveling Europe for the past few months. In one of his newest update vids he mentioned that he was doing that, and basically admitted to having a stupid amount of money to be able to do it.
0 likesPizzerizgud even if he is lying, it is factually true that Leafy has been traveling Europe for the past few months. In one of his newest update vids he mentioned that he was doing that, and basically admitted to having a stupid amount of money to be able to do it.
0 likes“Minecraft passed its peak. It would never be as popular again”
1 likeSpoke about 1 year too early
I love how leafy just has Tetra as his pfp
4 likesThis is like a supervillain getting taken down, him bullying everyone and then his own tactics being used against him
0 likesU need to look into Ethan dude. That egomaniac has complete lost sight of the morals and values that he once made a point of ensuring were a part of his channel. Now he’s just a freaking monster
2 likesI barely noticed this video was almost an hour long because the structure and editing are so well done.
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same
0 likesFh it was that long
0 likesSame
0 likesMe too lmao. I had it on in the background and kept glancing. And I was like "this feels like it's been a while" and I was at 35 minutes in lol
1 likeI think that the difference is the channels he didn’t kill are too “lowest common denominator” type channels to ever die
1 likeMrBlackDarkness666 never publicly lifting the curse is a very important piece of leafy lore
2 likesThe only thing that truly aged like milk “Minecraft would never be as popular again.”
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It's like a phoenix.
0 likesI think it's funny that Emp talked about the fall of Minecraft YouTube and yet here we are in 2021
6 likeswell.... this video aged like fine wine, TWICE so far
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Rise, fall, rise again. And fall again.
235 likes@Grade Y Possiblily the rise again... Stuff has came out about youtube emailing leafy and the termination couldve been a "mistake".
16 likes@Puzza Can you show me a source to it?
1 like@Blue Solace probably not gonna be unbanned since its been a month. But yeah according to leafy, YouTube emailed em that their looking into his requests to be unbanned.
0 likesThis is like some dark souls lore shit, next I gots light the flames for a third time
5 likes:)
0 likes@Grade Y rise fall rise again dead. . .
0 likesFg
0 likes@Grade Y but the last time he fell he fell with pride
0 likessigh Somehow, Leafy has returned.
4 likesFive times now, if you include Minecraft resurgence, leafy coming back, getting banned, and coming back again to get banned again.
1 like@Grade Y r
0 likes25:47 this part didn't age well lol
2 likes@Staffaynu lol
0 likesWhat about him saying Minecraft will never be relevant again?
0 likesExcept that thing that minecraft would never be has popular has in June 2013
1 like@Robert take a break here friend the road ahead isn’t safe to go alone
0 likesThis channel genuinely helps my depression lmao
3 likesMake it age like whatever is after thrice!
0 likesExcept the Minecraft parts, that aged poorly…
0 likesExcept for the Minecraft part lol
0 likes@INCEL It got terminated
0 likes@INCEL Ye
0 likes@Robert does that make idubzz the chozen undead?
0 likesEvery mistake, teaches us after some Time a lesson.
0 likesthe mf doom at 16:20 was fucking amazing
3 likesi can kind of relate to leafy's decline. when i was in middle school i got huge popularity and respect by making fun of other classmates to the point when i had no one left to mock
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Hope you've changed now and are no longer like that 🙂
24 likesI like to think that MrBlackDarkness actually didn't break the curse or do a counterspell or anything just to spite Keemstar for laughing at him. To be fair, the laughing was pretty rude considering the rest of the video was about apologizing for making fun of him.
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HISSSSSSSSSSS
0 likesLeafy wasnt playing chess. He was playing high stakes Risk,only problem is that he only knew how to play checkers.
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And yet he still managed to win right at the very end, what a Chad
116 likesLeafy has returned
16 likeslightxz27 nope
16 likesHe was just vibing for the right time.
3 likes@Lance Anthony how?
5 likeslightxz27 ig yeah he won at the end with his new vid on idubbtz
14 likesLance Anthony but he literally gained 200k subs in 2 videos like a week apart. That’s what he would normally gained in a third of a month, around 10 videos, in 2.
4 likes@Dipper Jr he would have won if he didnt have his career blown and would single handedly blown idubz's career but no , what did he do ? he came and said yeah everyone is right idubz sucks, and now he confirmed that he isnt coming back so what was this? A punch of spite still has his youtube chanel inactive and if he didnt say anything about idbuz the situation with idubz would still be the same its not even like he was the fist to "expose" idubz he just followed a trend so tell me how exactly did he won ,the fact that he gained subs doesnt change the fact that he wont come back and idubz basically fucked leafy hard pushing others to hate on him what leafy did as a come back was doing what other youtubers already did with nothing new , he is not different than an idubz fan that came on leafy's chanel and said "no chin lmao"
5 likesI gave this comment it's 666 Like.
0 likesNow only time will tell if the universe decides to maintain this delicate balance.
Crucillus Thorn jeez didn’t realize it had this many likes lol
0 likes@gman bozdo do you still think leafy isn't returning
0 likes@Designed i mean i havent watched his content since the video with idubz but even so hes not rly blowing up and he doest have the same influence as he had back than
0 likes@Designed kinda forgot about this statement of mine , and i forgot of leafy as well , i assume that he does contet but hes most likely a mere shadow of what he has been , and i shall thanke u for ur sheer will of beering 2 months to come here and say this and u most likely sacrificed ur whole free time just to observe leafys activite and so u can makr this statement
0 likesSay what you want, Leafy has several million views per video still so he is doing alright and I still hear about him from my little brother so he must still have some popularity
1 like@Wade Sheckles that profile picture of urs fits perfectly with ur comment
0 likes@Wade Sheckles several million ? Most of his videos dont pass 2 million and some not even 1 million
0 likes@gman bozdo Its from Dave the Barbarian
1 likeLooks like he was playing uno cause the mofo just pulled a reverse one on ian.
4 likesSoundtrack for this video is so hilariously fitting 😂
3 likesNothing of value was lost when Leafy got deleted.
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Agreed.
0 likesYou could say that about most content on YouTube, but anyways the permaban was unfair and kinda scary because YouTube can just ban whoever they dont like
2 likes25:49 Ah yes, the days before the infamous Drama Mondays struck.
0 likesrewatching this video i love the bojack horseman parallels. such a great comparison
1 likethis video was incredible, i think every content creator should watch this video, it really opened my eyes, since i too had a beginning in minecraft lol
586 likesI think the one depressing thing about this video is realizing that edgy humor and content really doesn't thrive on YouTube anymore, it sucks that no longer can we push the boundaries without view counts and stats being suppressed. 2016 was a crazy year for youtube, it even makes more sense now that a lot of our fave creators don't upload anymore.
PS: lots of people forget that leafy's twitter was locked for threats or something, he can't get his account backc he didn't abandon twitter
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Do you know his new tweeter or any of his social media?
4 likesLinklight hey Linklight I saw a lot of this video already
0 likesLinklight 🙏🙏🙏
1 likeYo, thanks for showing me this video Linklight!
0 likesyo hey linklight
0 likesLinklight wassup d00d
0 likesLinklight, more like bargain bin ludv- haha funny
0 likesI agree completely.
1 likeWe never see any YouTube channels push the boundaries anymore. :(
bedo o Leafy MIGHT Have A New Twitter. If You Go On His Wikitubia Page, You Will Find A Link That Leads To A Twitter Account, But It Doesn't Go By LeafyIsHere, But Another Name Instead.
0 likesSup linklight how's smash Bros working out for you
0 likesEyyyyy
0 likesI think in order for you to even begin to ask us to feel bad for leafy, he would have to have even ONE redeeming trait, or done even ONE good thing in his entire career. "Feel bad for the fate of the irredeemable peice of crap who did nothing good, made no positive changes to the world around him, and contributed nothing positive whatsoever in his entire existance" is a hard sell for leafy, and
0 likesThe victim of circumstance routine doesn't really do it fof me. The algorithm might have favored bullying children as apposed to Minecraft Let's Plays,
but,
commentary videos weren't LITERALLY the only type of content on the entire platform, he could have chosen to transition to a thousand other niches at any point if he felt remorse or wanted to grow up. Weren't film and game reviews booming at that time ?
"Damn Blockbuster is going out of buisness, better get into dogfighting if i want to continue my career, there is no other logical conclusion"
They tried quietly killing him, but that didn't work so they shot him in broad daylight.
2 likesAnd like always his storys come true
0 likesWe called mrDarkness666 a crazy man, but we should thank him now
6 likesI miss 2016 YouTube drama. People actually had problems with each other and it was interesting to watch. Now in 2018 we have dumb staged drama that's just cringeworthy.(Great Video man!!!)
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Long Cross 48 so true
0 likesI miss the times when people fought against other people.
1 likeIt's just not the same when you attack the company that allowed all this in the first place.
Leafy was basically the fake villain who was "betrayed" by YouTube.
We also had FilthyFrank
0 likesI watch this like I watch a documentary on a mob king
3 likesDamn, that curse really did work.
2 likesThis aged well after the whole QuantumTV bs
2 likesCody ko, noel miller, Kurtis conner, danny gonzalez, and drew gooden are the only commentary channels that I watch a lot.
1 likeIt's still wild to me that 2015 already feels like ancient history.
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Maddafi that sounds more like 2018 I'm kind of confused LOL
14 likes2016 sounds more far, it's strange
6 likesMehoy Menoi Exactly.And I See People Saying It Was The Best Year Of YouTube Lol.
0 likesFucking hell, I thought it was content cop all this time but I believe you. Good shit.
0 likesImagine if leafy waited until 2020 when minecraft became popular again
2 likesHmm, looking at the numbers, doesn't look like Content Cop killed any channels. The Fine Bros was on an upswing when the Content Cop came out, if the mark you put is correct. the prank channel was on a decline and the content cop didn't seem to effect how fast it went down.
1 like16:31 Using glue70 Casin is fitting since it's on the Leafy Radio channel, which I don't think is actually connected to Leafy but is widely assumed to be run by him
2 likes41:29 Now that I think about it, it is really weird. I watched Leafy from time to time back in his hay-day, but over time his videos suddenly stopped appearing in my reccomended. I didn't notice it at all so if it really was a ploy by Youtube, it worked
45:50 You were 16 when you made Uncredibles?? Damn, that makes it even more impressive of a poop
Easily one of the best commentary videos I've ever seen
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野島デンジ ok
0 likesI remember commenting “HISSSS” in random videos back then, still remember that era of the internet very fondly
1 likeI still miss leafy …
1 likeI need a playlist for this video. The song choices are so good.
0 likesOne of the greatest videos on this site, This is my fifth time watching this.
0 likesThese will be the stories we tell our grandchildren in the future, i can't wait to see all you veterans there as well.
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I see this emoji thing everywhere. Idk the official name of the emoji thing. It appears in tons of surreal memes. The first thing that comes to my mind when i see that emoji is either
3 likesihaveaids:)ifunny:) or maybe those shitheads from the movie whose name shouldn't be said.My grandchildren would probably want to hear about this
4 likes"Hey grandkids, you wanna hear about the time a 20 year old contributed to the meteoric rise in online fascism through memes?"
6 likesWaka Waka sure
3 likesNvm I found out it's called 'Picardía', 'Strawman Ball' or 'Memeball'.
1 likeThis would be a sad one for Grandpa Calvin (I think that was his name...)
1 likeAlice Kuroame yeah he is called Calvin
1 likeYour seemingly natural ability to weave an epic narrative, [masquerading as retrospective commentary] has eclipsed what many would consider the standard of “quality” on YouTube - to the point I’m having serious doubts that EmpLemon the YTP-er isn’t part of some personal Mandela-Effect from a decade prior…
0 likes😳😵💫🤔 Your transformative, empathic, intellectual, and humble persona is as refreshing as your rebranding ✨
Keep Up The Great Work! 🙏🏻
Damn this documentary is soo good and interesting that sunnyv2 and other documetary youtuber try to copy it... Even still i want to see sunnyv2 upload about the rise and fall of muselk
1 likei remember watching leafy right before he did all his videos on commentary he had a little series where he talked about the drugs he had done
0 likesI had a tumblr fan page dedicated to leafy back in 2016
2 likes> 15 minutes in
388 likes> Thinks you're wrapping up
> 51 minutes long
The gift that keeps on giving, thanks dad
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same
1 likeIt's never ogre
2 likesAfter leafy returned, he started gaining again. It was all YouTube.
3 likesImagine your entire Youtube kingdom falling because of a lack of facial features
0 likesLuckily, they banished Leafy to an island.
2 likesBUT HE CAME BACK!
Luckily, they banished him to another island.
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Rofl exactly
1 likeExcept this time they vanished him permanently
you either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become a hero
1 likeI've watched this masterpiece about 30 times now and every time you bring up Idubbbz and that western music comes on, my heart starts to flutter as I remember those days on YouTube. I watched it all unfold.
249 likesKeep your hand on your gun.
Jesus christ it gets me every time.
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“Don’t you trust anyone” Just like h3h3 turned on leafy and leafy and grade turned on keem
23 likesTell me about it. Watching that in realtime was jaw-dropping
19 likesI dig the gorillaz track playing
1 likeHappy to hear that someone rewatches Emp as much as I do
5 likesWhen you remember the old days of YouTube, nothing but Minecraft. I am tempted to write a story about the history of YouTube in a western style
0 likesEthan managed to look like the good guy but he's the biggest snake of all.
0 likesmfw mrblackdarkness666's curse actually worked
6 likesYou underestimate the power of Mr.Darkness.
2 likesYou acknowledge Leafy likely didn't invent it, but just for a concrete example, ReviewtechUSA did the "gameplay and unrelated commentary" style way before Leafy.
2 likesEdit: Now that I think of it, I think this style may have been pretty common before Leafy. Maybe with the exception of it being the main focus of a channel.
It’s actually amazing seeing the evolution of Leafy in such a new memey era in YouTube
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Dopy
1 likeLmao "new era" dude come back to this vid 5 or 10 years from now.
Yeah… I never did what he did.
0 likesI started with literally anything related to Cars toys.
And look at where I am now.
I literally learned how to make edited videos half a year ago.
Talking about the conspiracy theory, I also noticed censorship in the comment section as well. I'm not sure if this correlates with anything, but I noticed during this period that youtube's comment section underwent "restructuring" during that phase. Before the restructuring, you could say anything you want and get your comment noticed. Now, there are certain things you cannot say without getting completely "censored" by youtube. Maybe this plays into the demonetization change, maybe not. Who knows. It's just my two cents.
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Justin Y. You already commented
33 likesI wanted to say my actual thoughts
125 likesJews.
23 likesHOW??!?!?!?!?!?
1 likeyou should make content
12 likesJustin Y. Yeah your actul thoughts because every other comment is a bot!
28 likesI was gonna mention the mister metokur videos but since I see you there too I guess you've seen em
11 likesJustin Y. Are there any videos you don't comment on that i watch?
2 likesWelp, you know better than all of us what doesn't a youtube comment make.
1 likeThe guy who likebots is complaining about censorship in the comments
10 likesOh hey you have good taste in content
0 likesInteresting to see a guy like you talk on whats on your mind. Usually we just see you say a punchline relating to the video, and thats it. Its also interesting to see this in EmperorLemon's channel too, and not in many others. I guess you could say I saw you as just "that guy everybody sees" with nothing else, but not anymore.
16 likesJustin Y. It must those eu laws btw do you live in Europe ?
1 likeInteresting comment, while I don't agree with you being everywhere, I do agree that there are new word filters in place.
0 likesJustin Y. Intersesting
0 likesKneight You're talking about me ?
0 likesKneight oh but recently the eu parliament pass a law to censor memes adding filters as well as bots they also may even censor sites like reddit and /4chan/ oh I'm scared what are they gonna do with my hentai ? Oh well I have an entire hentai pics in my folder
0 likesHave you ever seen a top comment that said "faggot"?
4 likesIt's pretty interesting to think about.
Maybe the reason that you always get top comment is because youtube boosts you to the top unconditionally?
this video is a lot more thought provoking than i thought it would be.
Justin Y. ddd
0 likesYouTube Geographic: Justin Y.
3 likesLike you can't curse on the comments
0 likeswell at least you said something that could be important
3 likesJustin Y. Why are you everywhere !?
0 likesj.pegmafia his comments are content
0 likesJustin Y. Id like youtube to censor your comments
0 likesJUSTIN y
0 likesFInally, a Justin Y. comment that actually contributes to something
2 likesYoutube should censor you tbh.
0 likesJustin Y. Of course you of all people would notice.
1 likeAh, Justin. Who made that Ninja avatar by thr way?
1 likeEmp liked this so he must agree. I think your on to something
0 likesJustin Y. I don’t think that is true. I see words they would consider “trigger words” all the time in top comments.
1 likeJustin Y. I’m starting to think Justin Y is an experiment from an unknown business
1 likeFreemason definitely some kind of government psyop. I don’t trust him and I don’t like him.
1 likeanyone remember the days of the top 2 comments?
0 likesJustin Y. DAMN
0 likesPayne 404 lol report him for what?
1 likeStop hating because he's more popular than you man.
Why are you on every video I watch?
0 likesMad respect to see you address your thoughts on a topic as delicate as this.
0 likesit became my hobby to look for you in every single comment section
0 likesEaxl no, sir
0 likesI know your secret now, RIVAL-DA!!! A spy working for the Youtubes perhaps?
0 likeshi away
0 likesHi daddy
0 likesHow the frick you have 616k subs and no videos?
0 likesI swear to god emp you are the only youtuber who can keep me mentally invested in a video for an hour straight. Your content is seriously great.
40 likesThis video was nostalgic for me. Being with leafys channel since 150k but also just a nice throwback to 2014 - late 2016 YouTube. The glorious days where people could really push the limits of what was actually acceptable. Great video that was well worth the time.
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carter mackenzie I agree my dude
0 likesU switched up, and became bigger than u ever had. Congratulations👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
0 likesI wonder how he got all this information surely, all of this isnt readily available all the time. I can understand some or most events but this video must of taken alot of time and probably speaking to the right people.
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this is all basic stuff most people knows with some theory at the end. the theory was very impressive since it had basically been comfirmwd when leafy actually got banned. this video is out of date and i’d love for him to do a remake. and also explain how his minecraft content wasnt the normal content but was promotion for his server which he made his first $100k from and how toxic of a pool the minecraft server running was in those days
0 likesI guess this is the perfect phrase for "you reap what you sow."
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Leafy got out with $12 million, all for making low quality YouTube videos for less than 4 years.
1 likeHe won
42:40 is where you finally convinced me, that is beyond strange
0 likesYouTube did COMPLETELY KILL LeafyIsHere. FOREVER.
2 likesIt’s pretty wild keemstar is still going after such a hit
0 likes28:12 gotta hand to ya thats pretty darn good editing
0 likesFunny thing, I think the only one out of all these guys still doing pretty well, is KeemStar. Outside of getting over Covid, he's getting on live streams with people, and still host Drama Alert and has always been active more or less despite everything.
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Pyrocynical you are forgetting?
0 likes@CallMeAri I never watched Pyrocynical
0 likesunderstandable
0 likesSo weirdly this video no longer turns up at all on YouTube search results
2 likes"Minecraft had reached its cultural peak (...) it would never again be as popular" Surprised to check google trends and see that this was still true.
0 likesEmp: “There's a little bit of Leafy in all of us”
0 likesMe: yes, I think you're right *sips tea
17:34
0 likesthis almost puts him in a good light lmao
5:45 OH BOY IF ONLY WE KNEW WHAT 2020 HAD FOR US
1 likeHe's more or less gone. He returned today.
1 likeone of the greatest videos in youtube history
1 likeWow, once again I am floored but the amount of effort you put into these YT Geographic videos. 2016 YouTube seems like such a distant memory now. YouTube was definitely a lot more fun and interesting back then. All the drama with Leafy, h3h3, Keemstar, GradeA and IDubbbz put YouTube into a state of Civil War. So many memes. And what's going on now with the Ad-pocalypse almost makes me wish Leafy was still here. Perhaps maybe things would be different now. Amazing video again! I look forward to more YouTube history.
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Yea it’s like each summer something crazy happened like 2016 the temporary fall of keemstar and decline of leafy with other things then 2017 with the rise of the Pauler Empire aka Jake Paul’s stupidity in full force. Now I wonder what this summer is going to be like
12 likesDank_Shrimp Such a memorable era, for better or worse.
3 likesthis is one of the best videos in this whole platform
0 likesLeafy was my favourite youtuber at the time, and if he wasn't banned he probably still would be.
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did u watch him in 2020 ?
0 likes"Awe yes back in my day...we had NFs, not NFTs. and There was a pinkboi who ruled supreme. There was law. There was order."
1 likeLast time I've heard of it the channel was still going.
0 likesCrazy how fast the internet it; or maybe I'm too slow.
This was such a nostalgia trip for 2015 though, awesome style and editing! Wish I had seen this sooner edgy meme man
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True dat
0 likesEmpLemon: Content Detective
1 like16:18 RIP MF DOOM.
0 likes14:38 that whole part gave me goosebumps, was not expecting that lol
I really like your mix of green and purple colors appearing often in videos.
2 likes2016 was just a dumpster fire that burnout out in 2020 then was on fire again then thrown out
1 likeEmpLemon this absolutely beautifully done. The quality this has is top notch with production and facts right...
109 likesBut watching this made me kinda sad though...
It made me feel nostalgia for the time when leafy was still popular because he was actually my favorite youtuber at the time...
Rip leafy...
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aSmallDot oh i was talking EmpLemons video
0 likesaSmallDot oh
0 likesI wonder how long it'll be before someone as interesting as leafy shows up, leafy United most everyone against him something like that is very rare on youtube
2 likesZander Blob Logan Paul did that with the suicide forest drama
0 likesEdit:But Logan Paul isnt as interesting as leafy
Koco123 I wish he would just make one final video
0 likesAndrew Shaw's Flow same, I’d love to get real closure. I’m sure it’d spark a huge conversation again too.
1 likeDifferent people, same story as me, I'm worried that he died in real life though, I don't need a closure video, just a confirmation that he didn't just die would be nice
0 likes4:19
0 likesI don't know about you, but every time I see something that looks easy, like getting rich on YouTube, I wonder if it was that easy, wouldn't everyone do it? Doesn't everyone have the exact same idea? Logically speaking, if everyone has the same idea to do something, you have a terrible chance at being successful. In my eyes, if you want to be successful on YouTube, you have to do two things: something different than everyone else, and care about you content you make. This part summed up my thoughts about this.
damn, what a good video! Im gonna subscribe real quick
1 likeBro, when I realized you made the Uncredibles YTP I nearly lost my fucking mind. I've watched that a million fucking times.
0 likes1:47 holy shit is that the bojack horseman theme???
2 likesWOW! just wow! Very impressed with the scripting, structure, story telling, visual "and just overall" the creation of this video! very impressed with this really held the emotion and tons of research was conducted! you have my subscription
236 likesOH YEAH! was also very entertaining! keep it up looking forward to what you create next
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Wow. You are very positive about this. Not making fun. Not hating. It's just you are so happy you almost sound sarcastic. lol! Well if I could be that positive I would have a life and go outside for once! Keep it up, my guy!
8 likessame. Besides the outside part
0 likesWaiting (possibly forever) with bated breath for the Internet Bloodsports youtube geographic or perhaps more specifically, the Ethan Ralph geographic.
0 likesFormerly requesting for Leafywasback:farther down the spiral
1 likeI love when people use MF Doom music in their videos ❤️
2 likes"I guess theres a leafy in all of us"
0 likes-Eminemplemon
Dayum, never thought I'd watch almost an hour long video about a YouTuber's downfall but glad i did. I started watching YouTube at the end of 2016, so there were a lot of things i had heard of but didn't know the whole story. I've never watched Leafy's videos but i kind of want him to make a comeback to see what would happen. And great advice/moral, will definitely keep that in mind as a YouTuber.
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Daniyal Khan Tareen End of 2016? God how poor we're you, in which u never used YouTube?
1 likeボイイイジーキュー And Idubbz pretty much demolished him
1 likeDid not realized it was this long 😂
0 likesFrostBug
1 likeSo what's wrong in that? Yes, i started using it in place of TV at the end of 2016 but i was still using it casually before. And it didn't take me that long to familiarise with the platform, that's why i started my own channel and I'm satisfied.
Griffith did nothing wrong
1 likeUsing YouTube means using it instead of tv, obviously i knew about it before and using it but never subscribed to any channel back then.
YouTube 2016 was such a beautiful mess, lmao.
1 like...I miss Filthy Frank :(
Leafy made some great videos you should check them out
0 likes4:00 Bruh that was 12yo me's EXACT mindset... I was literally watching a CaptainSparklez video one day and thought "this looks easy, imma do that" and so I started posting Minecraft Let's Plays lol. They were unedited 25 minute long videos of just vanilla Minecraft gameplay on a potato Laptop with a little bit of commentary. One of my favourites was one where I was loudly eating rice crackers into the mic for about half of the video, and somehow I thought "Yep, this is it, this is the video that is going to get me famous" lol.
0 likesGood times ahahaha.
you sound happy about this. all the guy did was be funny from his room. everything else is irrelevant
0 likesFunn yseeing Ethan being offended by Leafy when doing the exact same thing now - And getting eaten by his stupid community in the process
2 likesTo be fair idubbbz video wasn't the one that made leafy lose a shit ton of subs it was actually "the real leafyishere" video made by heywatchyourmouth while I don't think it singlehandedly kill leafys channel but is what what made him lose a lot of subscribers
0 likesEdit: Not saying that idubbbz video didn't create an impact cause it did, everyone was clowning after that video
It’s been a very long time since I’ve been genuinely interested and then impressed with a YouTube video. This was like watching a movie, and it was very well done. If you always put this much effort into your content, you should surpass leafy in no time :)
77 likesNice. Loving that Bojack intro.
4 likes5:31 It's never too late to use that meme.
0 likesI wasn’t a fan of leafy but for some reason I came across his content a couple of years ago due to the YouTube algorithm and I couldn’t help but think this kid seemed like a little craphead. I understand everyone has opinions but that also doesn’t mean your opinions are protected from any backlash that can bring. Every action has a reaction.
0 likesThat theory may be correct. I didn't even know any of this happened to leafy and I used to be a viewer of his channel. Just seemed like he vanished
0 likesI don't remember when, it was years ago, I got a recommandation: a Leafy video. I ignored it at first, but it never went away, so I watched it. It hooked me so I kept watching and watcing and then more recommendations of Leafy's videos appeared and I kept watching. I gave in to this type of videos and subscribed to him. I started to watch his videos regularly since, back then, I was too an edgy and angry teen. But then I grew bored of him. I stopped watching his videos and finally, I unsubscribed from him. And then something happend. I noticed that youtube erased every hint of Leafy from my recommandations. Every time I got recommended a type of video I stopped watching, Leafy crossed my mind. I wondered what happend to him, why suddenly I stopped seeing something that once bombarded my recommandations? I didn't even got recommended H3H3's video about Leafy, not even content cop. Not even one video from Keemstar about him (and because of this I didn't even knew about these 'dramas' between Leafy and others untill 1-2 years later). I thought 'wow youtube finally understands when people don't want to watch certain things anymore??' so I left it like that, plus I didn't cared enough to give him a search. But it was still curios how he just disappeared into thin air from my youtube way before that big fall he experienced.
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This same thing happened to me, minus the edgy teen part, back then I was very tame and his videos were like shock value jokes to me, hense why I watched them
10 likesKet same, leafy influenced me a lot, hell, look at my name and profile.
6 likessame...
2 likesI can relate to the "edgy teen" thing....it also happened to me around the time that leafy got popular.
1 likeThis makes it seem plausible that without Leafys sucsess the adpocalypse would have never happend
0 likes29:44 Missed a golden opportunity to include the scream
0 likesThis video is in DESPERATE need of an addendum. A lot has happened
0 likesThis is probably my favorite video of yours
1 likeThis is a whole ass documentary and it is some of the most engaging content on YouTube at the moment. It is so well written, and scripted, and edited. Time felt like it flew by watching this. I think your theory about YouTube makes a lot of sense. Think about Scarces' channel at the moment, he says in pretty much all his videos that they get demonetized as soon as they upload and that no one at YouTube will help him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if YouTube has been discreetly (or not so discreetly) trying to make it harder for drama/commentator channels.
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I mean I guess Youtube has the right to demonitize those whose content they don't like on their platform, but they can at least just flat out say it and not keep some youtubers confused for weeks
1 likeI think the reason keem didn't decline was because nobody really made the same content as him
0 likeslike scarce existed but watching scarce and watching keem was 2 different experiences while with leafy he was both not the best and not the only one idk lol jus my theory
4:39 - I've watched this video so many times but I've only JUST now noticed loss...
2 likesYour analysis rings true…I’ve been a YouTube addict for years (when it was only bad homemade music videos and stuff about Nibiru) and this is the first time I’ve heard of this channel….
1 likeJust knowing that i made it to leafy's video helps me sleep at night
0 likesExcellent video.
242 likesI've seen your Trump and Kimmel videos so I knew this would be good. You do your homework and try to understand a situation objectively versus looking through a biased lense. Keep it up dude. 👍
Just rewatched this video again, and call me crazy, but I loved leafy's content, I'll occasionally pull up some re-uploads and put it on my other monitor while I play a game, and it's some good stuff.
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Well that's just depressing.
3 likes@Hyper Scary eh, what can I say internet cancer is pure entertainment
1 like@Hyper Scary no it’s based
2 likesAnd now there are 10,000 drama commentary channels
2 likes"This kid won a CoD match so I doxxed him and he deserved it"
0 likesA very interesting take on leafy too bad his channel got deleted because someone got butt hurt
1 likeOh mannn... these were the days. Youtube Drama 2016. Nothing ever got better than that
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I know now all we get is this fake ricegum drama
1 likeHonestly, I miss it...
7 likesIkr i remember keemstar used to be really big in 2016
0 likesSavageBoy69Alt Oh the viner invasion was one of the fucking worst things to ever happen on this site
1 likeIt’s like it was just yesterday...
0 likesI will not stand for the Captainsparklez slander. He's a man of conviction
0 likesWhy do I have a feeling leafy with no income coming in will blow through all his money in ten years an be homeless
1 likeStarted out making minecraft videos LOL next thing you'll tell me is emperor lemon started out making YouTube poops as if xd
3 likes"Minecraft hit it's peak in 2014, and would never again be as popular." Yeah, I think 2019 proved him wrong
0 likesWatched for nostalgic cringe and remembering the good old days of hating Leafy..
313 likesLeft feeling sorry for the guy.
Who would've thought?
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I feel the same way about that he had potential to do something great but missed it and I just feel bad for him
22 likesthe fact you used the word misogynistic automatically makes everything you say false
13 likesI will always be a reptilian HISSSSSSS
1 likeCurious Hoovy HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HEIL LEAFY
1 likeMiss those days honestly
1 likeOnly thing iDubbz was ever able to SlaY was eventually his reputation
1 likeThe 2016 seemed it was much longer, it was the best era of YT drama, the pokemon go kid etc... Now we live in elsagate and toy review era...
1 like"It would never again be as popular" oh dear...
0 likesSeeing clips from idubbbz's content cop on Leafy hits differently in 2021 when now you know that idubbbz's wife and then girlfriend Anisa lusted after Leafy, lmao.
1 likeI love YT drama muppets.
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Wait, Anisa lusted after Leafy?
0 likesAnd?
0 likes"And this isn't just something I'm pulling out of my ass to explain away Leafy's decline."
1163 likes>puts up a picture of Alex Jones
I like your style.
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hahahah I loved it too
1 likeOther Gopher have you ever watched him without him getting taken out of context by an other source?
3 likesNow I want to go and subscribe to his channel, but at this point it won’t matter...
0 likesStarted watching leafy when I was a kid. :(
1 likeman star_ and his tf2 days were awesome, i still loved watching his overwatch days too
0 likesLeafy actually watched this on stream
2 likesWhile he wasn't the most serene youtuber, Leafy provided one of the only content that appealed to a Cynical and slightly Depressed audience (i was one of them), i was sick with the whole 'Inoffensive force-positivity vloggers' alongside a growing trend of politicised nonsense and rhetorics that has spiraled out of control today.
174 likesLeafy's content was a type of middle-ground between those 2 extremes, instead of a more 'formal' approach to commentary
he would instead just poke fun at while giving his honest cynical opinion about a topic or person.... instead of going off on a tangent or Ranting about it. he makes (and repeats) some stale jokes, give his thoughts and be done with it.
Instead of Taking things seriously like most people, Leafy would just laugh at a dumb situation and move on -
that's what appealed to me about him at least.
EDIT: I never even subscribed to him, just occasionally watched and enjoyed some of his videos
i never
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yeah, to be honest I also watched leafy videos circa late-2015 until around the keemstar drama but he was one of those channels that I never fully engaged with. it was essentially just above background noise, he was like the video equivalent of taking a random buzzfeed quiz from a facebook timeline, so kind of engaging but not really. it was never until after all of the drama that I rewatched his videos and realised how polarising and toxic they actually were because I just never really paid much attention to what was being said before
4 likesDead Meme I guess you don't.
0 likesLove the video!! Always wondered what the big deal behind Leafy was.
1 likeQuestion, what’s the song used around 44:14?
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"Lemon Jelly - Homage to Patagonia"
2 likesEmpLemon always has pastebins in the description of his videos where you can find each song used in order of appearance. Sadly they don't come with timestamps but you can always just make blind guesses until you find it.
@Saba Shaw Thanks man! I didn't even notice that lol
0 likes"he didnt have a doofy looking haircut"....
1 likei was waiting for the sike
Looking back, I personally don't really miss the cringe culture era. Irony is overrated
2 likesI saw Link on the thumbnail and my brain immediately jumped to the thought that you've made a video about Zelda but when i read the title i was mildly disappointed
0 likesThe Leafy Content Cop being on trending as a cover up seems more likely than I want it to be being that YouTube has gone out of its way to keep Content Cop off tending since then.
59 likes14:49 Remember ALL CAPS when you spell the mans name, rip
1 like10:34
0 likes"But what if...I were to purchase fast food from Krusty Burger next door?"
I’ll wear the tin foil hat with you, I’ve never seen one Leafy video, from his actual channel, never even heard of him during his peak, it was H3H3 and idubbs, was when I first heard of him, and then Charlie Moistcritikal, Grade A uk all of them, I watched all those vids, looked up Leafyishere and like u said never saw his channel pop up, even recently where all the youtubers were like Leafy is back, u look him up, his channel doesn’t pop, so I’m like…hm. Ur conspiracy may be 100% right
0 likeshonestly, i feel if leafy responded just by saying "yeah, the content cop was immature and pretty bad, but i have to admit my chin game is weak. just as i bash others, its only fair and expected that i would one day get bashed in return and i congratulate idubbbz in his success." or something along those lines, he probably would have been fine after the content cop.
3 likesDamn, this was amazing and it got really emotional.
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Augusto T Where did it get emotional? Lol.
4 likesDerek G wtf do you mean his whole career ended how is that not sad
4 likesKillerMemestar I mean it’s unfortunate, but that doesn’t mean the video was emotional.
0 likesDerek G guess your not sympathetic
0 likesKillerMemestar Lol yes the fact that I’m not saddened by LeafyIsHere losing followers means I’m not sympathetic. You definitely have a complete judge of my character based on these two comments.
0 likesDerek G maybe watch the video again and then you might know what I mean.
0 likesKillerMemestar Dude Leafy deserved it
0 likesTheUsername yeah but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t emotional
0 likes15:06 on the right
2 likeswho thought leafy on homestuck was a good idea
Brilliant brilliant video I really like your analysis and I am enjoying your videos allot
0 likes1:30 man that bojack intro is so fitting
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rewatching this i found even more footages from bojack. very interesting detail considering how similar the story in the show is to leafys one.
0 likes5:49 “It would never again be as popular.”
0 likesFast forward to now and now we have Dream and that SMP shit.
In the end. Leafy single handledly shook the entire platform of youtube to its core. All while being done in a dusty bedroom, talking into a mic over CSGO.
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2016 was really the highlight of the internet and the leafy drama being the most interesting events in youtube 2016
6 likesHe did more than shake it, he created a new/popularized genre of YT and changed the landscape.
3 likesgaagle boss 2016 was a shitty year but YT was the most juicest it has ever been. The only drama that came close to being that good was the Sidemen and Netnobody beef.
0 likesNah everyone going in on the pauls is always pretty fun too
0 likesgaagle boss lol I love this vid like finnaly someone shows a bit of good in leafy and not just Nash him for views
0 likesThat ending is perfect
0 likesLeafy was the best channel to ever appear on youtube
0 likesDream literally also said that: 22:25
2 likesBack in 2016 I was in middle school and all my classmates were obsessing over the drama between Leafy, Keemstar, Idubbz, H3H3, Pyrocynical and etc and I never understood what all the fuss was about. It seems so petty and stupid to me, I never got what all the fuss was about. I had to pretend to care about these shitty YouTubers to fit in with my classmates, glad to see their downfall.
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only leafy had a downfall lol
3 likesBetter than Shane Dawsons drawn out Jake Paul sociopath documentaries by miles. Great video man.
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omg yes, way better.
12 likesI'm a shane dawson fan and I agree
10 likes@TheIgors20 Ehhh I can't say Jake Paul is better than Shane. They're equally bad in different ways.
7 likesNot even close to the same thing
0 likesI give no other youtube channel a pass for using the bojack theme song. Top tier content
1 likeEmpLemon, your videos are not just good, they are inspiring. Knowing that there is someone out there who REALLY understands youtube who isn't some performer's handler or marketing guru. It gives me hope. It only takes one little dog pulling back the curtain to expose the Great and Powerful Oz. Don't ever give up. No one else on this site is making any content 1/10th as important as yours.
35 likesDamn this video was well made!
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When's the next funny click bait moments matt
0 likesMattCS I love you Matt I love your videos
0 likesThese feels less like a historical episode and more like a current event crash course. Not a bad episode by any means, just feels really random to tackle a subject as well known as Leafy.
25 likesI also absolutely love that Shining reference at the end.
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Clonekiller66 Most videos on Leafy don't start at the very beginning.
6 likesCalvin_Coolage true.
0 likesDude, you deserve so much more attention. Unlike a lot of YouTube's you take your time and put effort Into your videos. Keep it up!
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Hi dude, im Michael Jackson how are you?
0 likesI hope leafy is getting on with his life just fine. He was young and famous, and he paid the price. Everyone makes mistakes
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Allegedly. he's loaded. Doesn't want or need YouTube anymore.
4 likesWhat a great video. I was kind of expecting just a lot of filler and the same point that everyone makes, how content cop killed Leafy, but this really had an interesting narrative. The whole "YouTube assassinated Leafy and framed iDubbbz" theory really makes sense to me, and it is REALLY interesting.
28 likesI don't even want to know how much time you spent editing, researching, looking through archives, writing scripts, scavenging for video clips, looking through twitter posts, looking at past analytics of different channels, and everything else you did to make this video.
Definitely my favorite video of yours so far.
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h
1 likeare we gonna acknowledge how emp used doom's ALL CAPS?
1 like5:45 ironic because Minecraft is now extremely popular again
2 likesAnd that statement is now going down in r/AgedLikeMilk
"minecraft would never be as popular" oh boy that didn't age well
0 likesI miss 2015 YouTube
1 likeRemember when emplemon was a YTP youtuber?
1 likeAnd then on the 8th day the King was risen. The Dark Overlords were unhappy. A deceitful plan was put in place to overthrow The King.
0 likesIts sort of ironic that his avatar, Tetra from the legend of Zelda series kind of Parallel Leafys internet journey.
0 likesTetra is initialy a goodhearted pirate who doesent believe in the princess that will save the world, but ends up becoming that princess and saves her world.
While Leafy was just some kid making fun of wierd stuff on the net like the existance of toxic lizard people, he ended up creating the very lizards he made fun of and became the Lizard queen, destroyer of worlds!
(is this a streach,im just trying to justify why i have to associate this fictional character with this poor fool)
What an ending to this video bravo 👏
0 likesIf what your saying is correct, regarding Youtube's suppression of Leafy's channel on the search results and algorithm. I'm not sure how that could be legal. With in the bounds of Section 230's Publisher Vs Platform, it sounds like indexing & editorializing. With in the bounds of contract laws, sounds like it could be a violations of non-interference, specially since they didn't renegotiate the contract with Leafy nor inform him of any changes to the contract he signed with him.
0 likesGranted, I think any content creator probably could sue Youtube for the constant changes to Youtube's creator policies if they wanted to, since they never talk with us nor negotiate, nor are they transparent with us on policy changes, since every content creator has signs a legal contract with Youtube when we sign up, and them changing how things work with out giving us a chance to object or submit ideas could be seen as a breach of contract. Just no one has ever tried fighting it in court.
WHY IS YOUR EDITING SO GOOD.
0 likes5:50 well that aged badly XD
0 likesHow can anyone even question it, of course youtube killed his channel hahaha
0 likes34:00 beat dropped harder than leafy's sub count 💀
0 likesur content is so amazing, ALL CAPS
1 like36:50 ownage pranks isn’t a prank channel it’s a prank call channel.
1 likeYou somehow made me watch the whole thing nonstop huh
0 likesi can confirm that youtube was hiding leafy as not once did i ever heard of leafy until he was already dead and i had to search him up and while obviously youtube recommends videos based on your watch its still strange that such a large at the time didn't get recommended now adays million subscriber channels are very common and yeah
0 likesHot take: Making the content he did just because it was popular doesn't meat he HAD to do it, no one had a gun to his head. It's a HUGE assumption to say that people would do the same as he did. Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight either, these are all comments coming from a youtuber, apparently you forgot what it's like not being one.
0 likesSympathy for the Villain
3 likesLeafy is the chief keef of youtube he walked so others could run
1 likeI never realized emp used MF DOOM music in this video. Makes me like it even more
1 like07:20 that's exactly what pewdiepie did
1 like40:12 why was Scarce a target? dudes the most wholesome news channel out there
0 likesTHAT ONE DIDN’T AGE QUITE SO WELL
0 likesthe lgbtq+ just sponsored emp lemon. congrats
3 likes5:45 aged well….
0 likes25:48 lol things used to be so different
2 likesI miss when Youtube was filled with edgy content, memes, and minecraft and call of duty gameplay but now it's filled with Jake Paul and Fortnite
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Preach YouTubes just watered down content made to appeal to YouTubes rules so they can make money smh
7 likesafter jake paul's falling out with youtube that probably wont last long
1 likeThere’s still a lot of that content out there. Technoblade has some pretty entertaining Minecraft content. Grandayy, SilvaGunner, Cyranek and Dolan Dark are all meme channels that are thriving pretty well. Mumkey Jones is probably one of the most edgy people on the platform right now, and while I don’t particularly like him myself, there is an audience for it and if you like Leafy you might like him as well.
3 likesIf you look past the trending page, there’s content for literally anything imaginable.
Soooooooooo its the exact same?
2 likesWhat's the difference? It seems like you're just nostalgic for the old stuff, when that was just as toxic and annoying as the new stuff
0 likesThe leafy uprising was perfectly placed during my 3rd year of high school. I remember going into my programming class (the real cool class i know) and the people next to me would be talking about his latest upload or the keemstar drama.
1 likeBut like a high school pregnancy in the classroom next to us he was dropped and left for dead the moment idubbz uploaded his video going for the shiny new commentator pyrocynical
Live in the cringe for long enough and you yourself become cringe. Learn from Leafy.
0 likes4:39 explain to me how I watch this video like six times and miss Loss each time.
0 likescrack theory: MrDarkness's curse caused Leafy's demise
0 likesHey you know how leafs work, trees create them as small sprouts before they become big bright and green leaves. These leaves will absorb all the sunlight.
1130 likesBut in the autunm, the tree will slowly kill of its leaves by cutting it off from the food supply the tree has been sustaining his leaves with and drains all last remaining power out of those leaves before they fall off and are left to wither away.
Then next year, no traces of those leaves will be present and others will have taken its place.
You could almost say his name forshadowed his own fate.
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Leafy- What you just said
20 likesWasHere- Indicates past tense, and leaving(leafing?, hehe)
Neat speech you got over there
4 likesAs The EMP said...maybe he wasn't meant to be the channel he had become
5 likesLeuke naam!
2 likessuper konijn98 poetic.
1 likesuper konijn98
10 likesAnd then leaf-eating beasts consume the leaves for food. (idubbz, emplemon ect...)
The question is: did this tree bear fruit?
1 likeWoah
1 likeDid it disperse its seeds, allowing for more leaves to eventually rise?
3 likesᝄuperabundant ᝄtar guess only time will tell
1 likeI notice that his subs keep going up though. Interesting. I wonder if he'll be back after a while.
1 likedeep
0 likesoh shit...
0 likesnah, i'd prefer to call it censorship. because it is
2 likesbig W
0 likesjoa fusaro you mean the ICBM wich bent over and completely mesaed up the east coast's electronics in MW2?
0 likes@David Christian you have predicted the fucking future, sir!
1 likedamn thats deep
0 likesTurns out the seeds were replanted
0 likesI'm gonna be real, this video introduced me to MF DOOM so thank you
0 likesEmp "Nostradamus" lemon had it right
0 likes14:41 Remember ALL CAPS boys. RIP DOOM :(
5 likesI legit have been recomended this video for the last 4 years consistently without watching it till now. I have no memory of ever being reccomended a video by leafy himself.
0 likesNote: he didn’t abandon his Twitter, he stated in a video that he got locked out of it by Twitter for an unknown reason.
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Ha, riiiiight
17 likesbad muchacho b Proof?
2 likes@That's One Interesting Pfp Ya Got there in one of his videos. forget which one but it's in like the last 10 videos he made
4 likesHis Twitter was hacked and locked leafy out if it, he still hasent gotten his Twitter back to this day...
17 likesHe now has a new twitter.
8 likesReality: Forgot his password.
6 likesIt was global terrorism, I’m not being edgy, I’m dead serious
1 likeGiven the current Twitter climate, that's probably more of a blessing in disguise.
0 likeshe back
0 likesthen he came back and he's gone again, the more things change the more they stay the same uwu
0 likesSo fitting that you used All Caps by MF DOOM in the back 😂
1 likeThis video has aged a bit but it's still good
0 likesThe Bojack theme was perfect lol
1 like2015-2016 felt like it was yesterday. This dude was public enemy #1 on YouTube.
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Now he's public hero #1
21 likesChainsaw [ESK] who ? and how so
4 likessgt.slayer [blue rose] because all the hate has died down and people are missing him now
21 likes@GCNElite the hate hasn't really died down but his fanbase who weren't convinced by the content cop miss him
8 likes@lightnung probably it ye
0 likesI think it's fine if he stays off. No hate, it's just that being a YouTube commentator, especially on popular topics, is just WAY too much drama to deal with. I think Leafy isn't coming back just so he can live a more serene life. I wouldn't blame him. Who would wanna stay in an environment like that forever and miss out on life? I hope he's doing alright, and if coming back to YouTube is just gonna be drama for him, he should just stay off of it.
7 likesTuna On A Stick I enjoyed his content until I found out how manipulative and shallow he was to those who worked under him.
1 likeYeah true, I used to watch Leafy sometimes before he was famous. Right when he started doing commentary and was in a sort of little alliance with Luna and xCodeh who were doing the same thing.
0 likes@lightnung Convinced by the content cop about what? He cyber heckled people? He didn't make extremely hard working original content? Nobody watched leafy for original content, he knew this and that's why he didn't change or put more effort into them. His fans didn't care he was cyber heckling kids or rando's on the internet... that was content to them. I really don't understand how "content cop" convinced people not to watch leafy anymore.
2 likesJason Skywalker too much drama? probably shouldnt have spread lies and bullying then
1 likeZe Hydra I was a fan and found the cyber heckling stupid of him, he did nice videos before, suddenly he started bullying people
1 likei remember watching him like it was yesterday, tho i never was toxic
0 likesNow hes a martyr like imran zakhaev
0 likes28:37 The height of Leafy's success was on 9/11 of 2016... uh oh...
1 like"Mincraft would never be as famous"
1 likeBoi was he wrong...
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I mean well, yeah. Minecraft used to be way more popular even than it is now, and that’s saying something. Minecraft in its early days was so good because nobody understood it all.
0 likes“Oh he gone now honey,” said the sweet old black at your local grocery store.
0 likesThe ALL CAPS part of the video was the best part
2 likesJesus this documentary needs a part 2
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I dont follow youtube stuff that closely, what happened?
7 likes@行屍走肉 Leafy came back for a while, he was being pretty faithful to his original content. It was incredibly refreshing. And then YouTube banned him because he had several videos which featured Pokimane in the titles because of drama going on with her, but it was almost purely clickbait because he would talk about stocks and stuff like that after giving like one sentence on the poki topic. Even tho Ethan H3H3 made hours upon hours of character assassination content on Keemstar with virtually zero consequence, Leafy was somehow guilty of “harassment” and got swiftly banned by youtube outright for making the most surface level insults and jokes like “bro she’s not even that attractive.” If anything he was mocking Poki’s fans WAY more than he was mocking her
43 likesTl;dr the Leafy story doesn’t end at the point this video leaves off at
Idk dannel that's not a lot of story for a video therr
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@Mercury the real "Weafy" account got banned too and I think a fake one got 100k
0 likes@WolfyRed i be the 666th like
0 likesnice
@Former CT Governor Dannel Malloy Well after he made the refreshing videos for a while he just went right back to the reactions where he just made fun of people repeatedly so that might've contributed.
0 likesI miss leafy
2 likes44:40 Actually, yeah. A little bit before he was banned from YouTube one of his videos was recommended to me. I just clicked on it, commented "Leafy is still a thing? Lol." and closed it.
0 likesLogan and Jake Paul rating: PG-TEEN
2 likesPewDiePie, JackSepticEye, Markiplier: TEEN-MATURE
Ah times change huh?
"It would never again be as popular" minecraft cave update and steve in smash:are you sure about that
0 likesIt absolutely was YT working behind the scenes. I specifically remember him dropping off my feed at one point and wondering why he wasn't doing a videos. And then finding out he still was, it just wasn't showing up on my subs feed or recommendations. I thought it was very fishy at the time and wondered how he could possibly disappear that quickly despite the fact that he was doing the exact same content & not much, despite the drama, had changed. It became evident to me at the time that attitudes were beginning to change, too, about making fun of other youtubers. I have never bullied anyone, in fact I have always stood up for the underdog, but it was a guilty pleasure to watch Leafy rip people a new asshole. Most of the people he made fun of deserved it, and were whiny spoiled assholes or complete idiots (like that chick who put handfuls of fake cum on her face) who needed a smack of reality. Sometimes I felt bad for his targets, but that didn't make me want to watch him any less. And I knew he was a nerdy ex-Minecraft player, I really didn't care. There was something about him that made you want to watch and see what he had to say about the next weirdo.
261 likesI have been saying for a long time that it's no longer YouTube, it's TheirTube. Google had even said years ago they wanted to transform YT into "the next cable tv." They turned YT into a vast machine and you either comply with their rules & their idea of friendly entertainment, or they will get rid of you one way or another. If they can't get rid of you directly then they will make the environment so incompatible that certain users would have to leave. In the case of Leafy they sucked all the water out of his pond and left him to dry in the hot sun. Was it right? No. Was it legal? Probably not...but who's going to argue doctored numbers with them?
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@bdjsjshhehehd ugh that girl having sex with dogs >_< and she was even making instructional videos how to do it. She got kicked off YT shortly after Leafy ripped on her. Shortly after Leafy left YT he did one live stream on Twitch and never did anything on Twitch again, as far as I can tell. Maybe he felt uncomfortable there. I watched it and he seemed kind of rattled at the time and I kinda felt bad for him because he really didn't seem to have too many friends. Which was arguably his own fault...he never seemed to understand why he pissed people off. He burned every bridge immediately after going over it. It was kind of sad it all spun down into a big drama war, but then again nothing lasts forever.
12 likesgodaikin6886 she actually ended up getting arrested in real life which is actually thanks to leafy for bringing her to peoples attention. Can I still watch that last stream? I mean he did lose a lot of his friends but it was nice to see that him and keemstar made up after that flame war, and who knows, maybe he made up with the other people he had beef with
15 likesThe YouTube Devs are reptilians
4 likesHe did a video about a girl legitimately trying to glorify Hitler and the Nazi Party/NSDAP.
0 likesHuh, that switch thing is interesting to me, because sometimes not switching keeps the channel around. EthosLab is a good example; doing Minecraft for years, and still uploading actively.
0 likes5:45 "Minecraft would pass its cultural peak in summer 2013, and would never be as popular again"
0 likes2021: Dream SMP trending on Twitter every goddamn day
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pewdiepie may have singlehandedly revived minecraft
1 likeNgl how’d he last that long if that happened to me I’d be depressed at the least
0 likes48:44 several fangirls would disagree
1 likeI think it's crazy that for his entire life, the peak of his career will likely have been at age 20
89 likesSo if you wanna get big on youtube, you gotta be a commentary channel.
0 likesYou should do an update about leafy getting banned off youtube
0 likesThen going to twitch and getting crippled then when he came back to youtube got thrown off the cliff to never return
Watching this at the time the "ship" has reached its watery grave.
0 likesHoly shit dude you were right YouTube nuked his channel
0 likesAs a former watcher of Leafy's, the quality of his content dropped significantly even before the content cop and I just found myself not clicking on his videos in my feed like I used to. This drop is hard to notice because he was using the exact same formula and style of video, but his jokes were less funny, he was repeating things in every video, and was much less interesting to watch as a result. Perhaps it came from a lack of motivation in the wake of all the hate he was getting.
115 likesUltimately, I don't think he was that horrible a person. Put anyone in his situation who has no experience being in the limelight and they'd probably be the same. He didn't have the foresight to see what his fans would do to the people he featured in his videos. To him it was all just for laughs, and the people he 'roasted' in his videos were funny to watch, and at a time his commentary was genuinely funny as well.
One thing I find so interesting is how almost all of the creators involved with him I personally like today. h3h3 and idubbbz for instance I actually admire, pyro is okay and even fucking keemstar seems to be alright now. But there has been a time that I have disliked things that they have done. No one was completely innocent in the youtube drama of 2016, and I think it's a shame that leafy seems to be the only channel that has died for what he did. Look at today though, and all of these other channels are thriving. Perhaps leafy was the youtube Jesus, who died for everybody's sins, all of the sin of youtube was thrust upon him, allowing everyone else to live in eternal subscriber growth. Interesting to think about.
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Poodz I stopped watching and eventually unsuscribed when he started targeting specific channels instead of storytelling.
3 likesLeafy didn't even have the chance to better himself. He just rode the rails to the downward spiral.
0 likesHe would've been the YouTube Jesus if Jesus was throwing insults at children and people with disabilities for the entertainment of other people.
9 likesPoodz it was because he insisted on making daily uploads and that drained his creativity.
0 likesI was also a leafy fan (although, I was not a rabid drone of his), and looking back at it, I never saw too much quality in his content, but most of the videos i saw from him were the ones where he targeted other channels
0 likesLeafy was the beta tester for youtube adpocalypse then.
1 like46:21 Well, I guess I'm the one. Call me weird, but I make videos just for the hell of it, whenever I feel like it. And although I may have a lot of things to say about politics and social issues, I've no desire to share my thoughts with a broad audience. Too anti-social for that and there's more than enough channels that can do it better anyway.
0 likesAll roasts and no play makes Leafy a gone boy
1 likeI am so glad I dropped all drama channels. Wasn't good for me. Isn't good for anyone. Too much negativity, not enough positivity.
0 likesthis video has more dramatic plot than anything Hollywood could produce
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Ikr if a movie came out about a guy like Leafy, who starts out making innocent content but then rides a toxic trend to fame, and then you see him mishandle his celebrity status making more and more enemies, until his tragic downfall when everyone (even the megacorporation of his own platform) turns against him, that'd probably be a fucking good movie
37 likesBecause real life has consequences, not plot points
16 likesI guess you’ve been watching the wrong movies then.
7 likesCan’t just be watching Disney and marvel movies
Alex Lazar reservoir lizards
0 likesthis would make a good black mirror episode
1 likeKinda reminds me of catch me if you can but with a darker ending
0 likesTo be honest that could actually be a really good movie. Like Best Picture award type stuff
0 likesYou didn’t capitalize your sentence.
0 likes@Alex Lazar where would all the intense gore and foot scenes fit in.
0 likesP.s , he is my favorite director
I believe it because when I was like 8-10 I was watching pyro but I never saw leafy in my recommended not once and since their content is similar it would make sense I believe it
1 likeForgive me father, for I have sinned. Back at his peak, I was a reptilian. I hissed and sought those channels. Never kys-ed, didn't even know what it meant. I would've been 12 at the time, start of 7th grade. Weird times back then.
0 likesthis video disappeared for a week or 2 and I was really worried it wouldn't pop back up, glad to see its back here!
0 likesAlthough you can grow a YouTube channel to the millions mark doing one thing for years if that thing you do is niche, like Techmoan. You only have to adapt and evolve if you started out trend chasing.
0 likeswhen I clicked on this I was expecting to watch 10 minutes in, then make a comment saying its well known facts and that it can be summed up in a 10 minute video, but I ended up watching the whole thing. I didn't realize the story went this deep, now I actually feel really terrible for him; I had an empty feeling inside, and feel bad about all the backlash he got, thank you for sharing the true side of the story. I am definitely subscribing due to the fact that I've never watched an hour long video on YouTube feeling like I just watched a feature film.
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SAME AF.
1 likeI love your content so much, but if your theory is correct (and I don't think it is, although certainly a factor), why was only Leafy's channel affected? Keemstar's wasn't, despite being the same rating and despite you yourself pointing out how similar they are. You act as though your theory accounts for the anomaly, but really it leaves it unexplained? Is there not another correlation here?
0 likesNow I feel happy that carryminati changed .
1 likeGod, I miss 2016
0 likesYouTube: hey you wanna watch a 52 minute documentary on a dude you hate
2 likesme: oh fuck yes
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god i'm about 35 minutes in and realizing this is about several dudes i hate and i'm enjoying every second of it
2 likes@Monke Lounge maybe not those two, though i'm not particularly fond of them either
0 likesYou made an hour long entertaining video! I struggle with making a 10 minute video... hahaha you're a badass
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That Russian Guy I love your channel ! I’m subbed to you
1 likeIt's actually 9 minutes and 8 seconds from an hour.
0 likesYeesh I just correct someone and 2 people get their panties in a knot! I don't know about Killer Keemstar though. Maybe just kidding.
0 likesOk ok but leafy definitely had a doofy looking haircut
1 likeOh shit I loved the gold room at the end. Great movie!
0 likesinsert overused "aged like fine wine" comment
20 likesHoly shit is Emp ALSO a Tobacco stan?! Wtf dude you have sick music taste
0 likesWow, dude, your video is like, so well-made, it's true craftmanship, you actually did a journalist-job on this subject, but not only that, the musics, the editing, that's the second video is see from you (the first was the "Behind the meme rant") and I'm actually impressed how good the content you make is. Hope you'll continue making such nice videos, and maybe one day you'll become more famous than Leafy
135 likesalternate reality where leafy kept making minecraft vids and then joined the dream smp
1 likeLmao. This video aged so well. Well done, detective.
0 likesNot only you had an amazing analysis of why he "quietly" disappeared, but confirmed to us as YT removed him completely after he came back.
Amazing. What a chad
What goes around, comes around.
0 likesPeople have been doing unrelated gameplay commentary since 2010, I’m not saying they all did it about the same topics as leafy but people like DarksydePhil have existed for a very long time.
0 likesI can tell you really care about your channel by not flooding this video with ads. Underrated channel
70 likesLove all the MF doom samples
2 likesleafy getting wiped out of youtube twice in a month makes the theory correct
0 likesthat raid reference is fitting, nice job lol
0 likesLooks like he couldn't survive in youtube's climate today bro, like he couldn't even curse.
0 likesHonestly, wow. This was by the far the most comprehensive video I've seen so far on Leafy.
64 likesI actually remember watching Leafy but now looking back, it's really sad thinking about it.
Leafy: The Youtube Icarus
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TheBlueRedGamer dude I love this video someone who dosent just bash leafy
3 likesHonestly that's the perfect way to describe him. Leafy got too cocky and thinking he could do anything. He flew too high and came falling down. Damn.
5 likesTheBlueRedGamer so true
0 likes23:30 - 24:33 did not age well
2 likesI actually appreciate how well edited and researched this video is, it really shows the dedication emp still puts into his videos
20 likesI definitely didn't expect to feel sympathetic to Leafy when I clicked on this
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Spicy Salmon same lmao
0 likesDamn I never thought I'd feel sad for leafy, but it is truly sad to see someone much like us fall to his own corruption. You know he wasn't really evil at heart, at least not to begin with, he just wanted some fame and glory. Leafy may have died due to his own folly, but he deserves at the least a nice tomb. His death was a tragedy. We don't have to remember him fondly, but we should not forget him and what he taught us.
23 likesIn 2021 and 2020 it’s crazy to know that leafy was deleted off the face of the YouTube earth
0 likesdamn. i miss 2016
0 likesAccording to 2021 me I agree with your big tech killing of leafy was here.
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very cool comment Scott Tennett
0 likes1:17 do I hear the famous Bojack Horseman intro or are my ears deceiving me
2 likesTo be fair fine bros is huge and that was more of idubbz piling onto hate
1 likethat bit at 9:30 made me realize that pornhub's colour scheme is inverted from youtube's default
1 likeso.. the curse worked?
4 likesBoth the content cop and the channel are gone now.
2 likes5:45 “it would never again be that popular” lies
0 likesBojack Horseman may have the best theme song I’ve ever heard.
1 like5:46 hmmm well he didn’t see it coming
0 likesi miss him
1 likeThey shot him dead, in broad daylight too.
1 likethis dude literally played all caps, best youtuber fr
0 likes5:46 who is gonna tell him about 2019?
1 likeWow, you actually made me feel sorta bad for Leafy. He was pretty toxic, but I don't think he deserved the shit Youtube did to him either.
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He took the the smart way out he cashed out and left yt
23 likes@Xieo TV 2 never even bought new mic or equipment
4 likesTbh,Leafy was just Ironic, I mean He didnt hate on people or anything.
16 likesI think it’s better this way. Is it really so bad for YouTube to knock down the people giving it a bad name or cancerous community? Leafy was promoting bullying and hate, so it’s really just cleaning up.
11 likesHe just had the balls to speak his mind and cut through the bullshit. (his story videos were great.)
25 likesThis makes no sense since youtube lost i'ts credibility supporting logan's suicide forest and apology videos. Should've happened to logan if you ask me.
10 likes@Big O Eh he was young and didn't care about quality too much. He just wanted to broadcast himself... JUST LIKE YOUTUBE USED TO BE!
4 likes+Dark Technica
2 likesHe had no "balls" to speak of. He attacked children and people weaker than him. He was a fucking coward and a disloyal snake. His only power came from betraying his fellows and profiting off their corpses so to speak.
But in a sense Leafy never died. It took the form of Youtube. The idea never died. YT became what they hated most. And this time it effected EVERYONE and no one could win.
3 likesvally V ok lil tay i agree with but ppl like jojo siwa havent done anything yet half the internet bullies her, i didnt like his commentary videos either i thought they were boring but all im saying is everyone makes fun of kids on the internet yea leafy went too far sometimes but most of the time he was doing the same thing as everyone does now, he was just ahead of his time on commentary videos making fun of someone
0 likesALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MAN NAME
2 likesrip MF DOOM, gone too soon
The music in this video is just generally great
1 likeChapter XII: LeafyIsBanned
2 likessuch a good video!
1 likeLeafy was the Napoleon of his era in terms of YouTube, he was extremely innovative and ambitious for his time, but said ambition is what bit the bullet. Just like Napoleon, leafy made too many enemies and only his closest subscribers still followed him towards the end.
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They were also both short
0 likesNever heard of him until content cop. Never ever had a recommendation
1 likeThere will Never Ever be another YouTuber like LeafyIsHere
0 likesAnd then YouTube banished him to the Dungeon never to be seen again
0 likes2015 was one of YouTube’s many golden ages. Thank you for taking me back to a time that’s (surprisingly) long gone.
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Rusty the channels that were caught up in the 2016 drama storm are either much different or incredibly successful, both even. Some are no longer active. It’s insane
5 likesSo you prefer today’s state of YouTube, where every mature content creator is forced to tone down their humor due to the fear of demonetization?
5 likesI said one of the many golden ages. Personally, I find the 2015-16 era a lot of fun to talk and reminisce about. At least it wasn’t as boring as today’s state of things.
This video has aged like fine wine.
0 likesEthan calling out bullying lmaooo
1 likeLeafy vs Youtube execs, a classic Nazi vs Klansman death match if I ever saw one.
5 likesman i dont eve know what happened. one minute youre watching this guy with 3k subs monologing with a cs go surf clip in the background, next thing you know the guy is making millions of subs and then hes just gone. i didnt really watch his videos in the e d when he was just pumping out daily videos reacting to some shit, but the whole thing was huge. couldnt go in qny comment sections without people spamming "HISSSS" or something.
0 likes2015-2016 was a really bad point in my life, but in a way I kinda miss the freedom on YouTube from that time period
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It was the best for me. I found this game called mcpe and im still playing it
10 likes@Big ciangas junior de ro-andrei DO YOU MEAN BEDROCK? AND YES I SAID MCPE BECAUSE 2016 WAS MCPE.
12 likessame; a few other channels i used to like stopped doing youtube and started twitch streaming or just went radio silent
7 likesIt'll return in 3-4years,
2 likes@Blitzkriegpacito Gaming calm down
0 likesyeah. in 2016 i was on and off with my gf, had friend problems, did a lot of drugs and od'd twice but still i miss 2016, both on youtube and irl. the world was less heavy then
0 likes2015 and 2016 were pretty shit years. Glad they ended and those type of youtubers like leafy died out
4 likes2015 wasn’t all that memorable for me, but 2016 was a year where so much shit was happening, i wish we could have a year like that again
1 like@Fabriciod Crv yup.
0 likesMe too. But hey, Emplemon is still really good. Wish he'd put out more videos though.
0 likes2016 was the best year in my life for me.
1 like@Rappin' Ronnie Reagan same
0 likesYeah 2015 -6 was a really free yt, too bad I wasn't on yt for this
1 likeSame here, man. I was really trying to figure myself out back then and got really obnoxiously edgy for a while as a result. Shit sucked for everyone involved, including me. YouTube was honestly kind of like a solace to me back then.
0 likesThat was a great time
0 likesThe closest thing to leafy we have got now is Scrubby, and he is nowhere near as savage as leafy.
0 likesAnd then 2 years ago idubbbz gf opened an only fans and leafy couldn’t resist
1 likeCringe culture might be one of the worse things to happen to the internet in a while. It’s just bullying people who like different things
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Bullying is good sometimes dud :D
5 likes@Conrad Reed I agree with that, but most of the time it’s not
0 likes@Curllum oh yeah totally agree most of the time it's not good but hey atleast, kids that DDos, the Tommync, Mr black darkness666 and all the other bullying videos were funny :)
0 likesLeafy was there to entertain and he did his job
0 likesCringe culture is fucking amazing
2 likesdid anyone catch at 23:20 where Ethan says "i didnt want to make this video because theyre my friends, but for some reason everyone has been giving them a pass."
1 likeyou...just admitted to giving them a pass because youre they're your friends.
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yeah, he's saying his reason for keeping quiet was friendship, but fans or random viewers dont have that excuse, thus he doesnt know their reason
0 likes@Henry Martin if everyone else is giving them a pass, and you're also not saying anything; you're also giving them a pass because they're friends
0 likesIf leafy were to come back, but toned down and matured a bit, to fit in with current commentary channels, I would welcome him back with open arms. He just needed a few years of maturity before opening up a channel, and now I think he would be fine coming back. He never really bothered me other than picking on people who were sensitive and didn't deserve it. All he needs to do is genuinely apologize and take credit for what he did wrong and we wouldn't have let his channel die. It really is sad that a unique person went toxic so fast.
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0 likesI'm so disappointed that you didn't use Aoki's bhop_monster_jam version of "Surfin' USA" that plays during the surf section of the map...
You didn’t look at his uploads after content cop. He kinda stopped uploading.
0 likesi love that you use gran turismo music its so soothing
1 likeWell I never had a leafy video recommended to me before 2016, so no that’s not that weird lol
0 likesIs it me or is it just amazing to look back on how things have changed? Like, remembering a certain moment in your life while you did something, but just a little while later, that something is gone now.
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Sometimes I wish I could start over and fix every single mistake
2 likeskemi same :^(
0 likesI remember getting a notification for a filthy frank video☹
3 likesI remember being sick and watching leafy videos in bed. He was always funny to me.
3 likes>hits blunt< yeah man
0 likesManly Man I agree
0 likesI remember a couple afternoons or so from spring to summer 2016, probably shortly after H3H3's rant video, where I just started watching most of Leafy's videos for an afternoon and just got engrossed in his style and colourful roasts... and then, yeah, it was probably early 2017 that his content just continued being stale, and I ended up finding it just dull and immature to watch him, and unsubscribed for good.
0 likesIt's a shame he never thought to try something different and flex his creative muscles, like, say, Pyrocynical (who was originally criticised for being a Leafy clone, but if you look of his videos now, they bear little to no resemblance to the kind of 2016-style commentary that he and guys like NFKRZ became known for, and are of much better quality and analysis). He just doubled down to the point that he became a caricature of himself.
Naj Adamu beautifully said, I agree. We all kinda were kids when we saw him, ironically.
0 likesMr. Popanz me too. My comments on youtube on older videos are so idiotic and embarrassing, but I take it as a mark in time of innocent smol me.
1 likeManly Man: I'd argue that even as much as we love to hate what "internet has done to us", the single fact that we can actually reflect via hard evidence on our past thoughts, can be so enlightening if one dares to take that oddysey, it single handedly outweights the odds by itself.
0 likesMr. Popanz true, the internet should probably be seen as an escape as some sort, but at times it can be frustrating. But all around fun in of itself :')
1 likenot something someone
0 likesRichard Nixon something AND someone
0 likesfunny hearing someone say Minecraft would never be as popular again... 2020 said differently.
1 likethe minecraft thing didn't age quite so well
1 likeI miss 2016
4 likes13:27 That's Michael Reeves and you can't tell me otherwise.
0 likesOnly 90's kids will remember the days of leafyishere.
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True dat
0 likesPintexx I was born in 2001 and I remember it fine...
6 likesUzoma N. Wooosh
3 likesNegiro So is everyone just going to keep insulting me instead of actually explaining the joke?
2 likesUzoma N. Yes
2 likesI was born in 2005 and I get it
1 likeOr edgy 14 year olds who now are like 17.
2 likesoof
0 likesthrough*
0 likesbACk In tHE 90Ss i WaS iN a VERy famOUS tV SHoW
1 likeGuys, I was born in 2013 and I remember the times of Leafyishere. LooK aT Me I'M eDgY and relEV4nT l0l.
4 likesPintexx the good day's...
0 likesI was born in the 90s and I remember lol
0 likesHyfuhj
0 likesWooooooosh
A little dose Of CrAzY
0 likesWooooosh
I was actually born in 2000 it was just sarcasm
0 likesWill you ever do a part 2
0 likesi’m sad to say but on this account leafy was my first sub……… god idk y i liked dudes content so much
0 likesThe bojack intro was amazing
0 likes3:16 The John Bois influence is palpable
0 likesI really fucking hope Calvin actually watches this. I wonder how he would feel after watching this video, it is literally the most interesting thing I have thought of for a very long time as sad as it sounds it is the truth haha
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@Lavinity Did he actually?
0 likesLeafy was also recently featured in a drama alert video. Basically he said he wasnt actually sorry for TommyNC2010 and Leafy also said he left only because of money and he wasnt getting enough of it
2 likes7:13 elrichmc literally doing the same thing for 9 years straight: lol
0 likesDrama is so exhausting
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It honestly is. Adults on the internet playing a teenagers game is just ridiculous.
4 likesALL CAPS are the perfect fit for leafy....
1 likeSir, this is a Wendy’s drive thru.
0 likesThis documentary is so fucking epic somehow the element of music mixed with the commentary gets me so god damned hype and the transitions are fucking beautiful I was up til 3am watching this
23 likesThat intro 👌
0 likesyou had me at the bojack opening
0 likesAh yes the dark ages of YouTube
0 likesI had this video playing while mowing my back yard
0 likesIt could also be that Leafy’s fans started to mature. It’s quite obvious that Leafy’s audience was largely made out of edgy 13 year olds, including myself. I started watching Leafy somewhere in July (of 2016), and I was hooked immediately. I watched his videos everyday. I started to become a Leafy fanboy myself, and used the “BuT iT’s SaTiRe” argument when someone dared to speak out against the Great Leafy. I didn’t think Leafy was doing anything wrong at the time. I liked Leafy and his videos so much, that I even made a low quality commentary video myself, mostly because I dreamed to become a big YouTuber like him. Hell, it’s still on my channel, so you can watch it if you want. It was in the beginning of September, more than a week away from the Content Cop, that I grew bored of him, and that I decided to unsubscribe.
65 likesBut I didn’t get bored of him, because I became a big boy or anything. It’s because Leafy’s content was incredibly repetitive. He made 1 video everyday, and they were all identical. He used the same kind of playground insults in every single one of his damn videos. That’s one of the reasons why Leafy lost popularity, and it was one of the biggest criticisms about him. But of course, I’m pretty sure that YouTube has a lot to do with the fall of Leafy’s empire. I haven’t gotten any of his videos in my suggested list since the end of 2016. And I have never really looked back.
Great video, btw, although not as good as your Teletubbies reboot video. That video had a lot of good points and valid criticisms.
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Mr Kacperov
5 likesI have been the opposite of Leafy myself content wise. I've been interested in creating a plethora of different Contents. I do however see beyond veils and I can tell that Calvin Veil is suffering from a couple of things that the public is oblivious to.
EmpLemon explained in the video why this is unlikely.
5 likesWhile other channels with the same issue just faded away with time, Leafy got hit with an 80% drop in the span of 2 months. Why would all those people decide to not watch Leafy at the (almost) exact same time?
It's not impossible - but unlikely.
Same thing for me dude.
0 likesI personally saw leafy(and pyro too for a while) as the McDonald’s of commentary videos, but not in the way Emplemon sees it. While someone like H3H3 or Idubbbz created quality content, or the fine dining experience, leafy was the much more abrasive, less insightful, but still watchable content that could pad out the time between the amazing episodes. In other words Leafy was the McDonald’s of commentary channels, it wasn’t exactly good, but it was good enough and was there and convenient. Other than that there wasn’t much.
0 likesNot gonna lie late 2015-16 were good times you never knew what was gonna happened. to this day i can remember that video of that big girl who was singing in a pool. Man those were good times.
0 likesThis is highly unlikely. Started to rise in beginning of 2016 and started to fall at the end of 2016. It's not that people grew up. Besides leafy's fanbase most likely consist of Teens and young adults anyway.
0 likes22:29 You know, to add to all the negative drama caused by Leafy about MrBlackDarkness, can't we also add that he was outright attacking a guy whose profile picture back then looked like Freddie Mercury from The Killer Queen music video? Seriously, compare Mr. Black's face in the picture to how Freddie Mercury looked in that video, people! It's just that he had his hair dyed black, and his eyes too. Besides that, just imagine Leafy attacking the real Freddie Mercury for some silly reason. I bet Queen fans would not have it.
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Btw, I'm complementing Mr. Black, because I like Freddie Mercury very much.
0 likesFuck dude. I've literally never seen a leafy video. I'm convinced.
0 likesi like the madvillain song
5 likesEmplemons voice kind of reminds me of Yandere dev.
0 likesMinor thing, but i always notice that the music choices in EmpLemons videos are always spectacular. Good documentary daddy. #Leafywasaninsidejob
19 likesthe title almost made me cry
0 likesWhat an incredible fucking video
1 likethere is no hero without villain, what if everyone was a villain
0 likes“In 2013 minecraft would reach its peak in popularity and never rise again”
2 likesWell... that didn’t age well
Emplemon: Minecraft has surpassed it's cultural peak, never again to return.
1762 likes2019: Hold my Notre Dame
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minecraft never died...
23 likesidk why everyone says that
@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1 ikr, I guess if its not the most popular game in the world any it died, it still pulls in impressive numbers tbh
4 likes@Darci 「Heads Will Roll」 Since all the kids that played Minecraft either grew up or migrated to Fortnite, Minecraft is now seen as more of a nostalgic and well-remembered thing.
12 likes+zardiathemuteatsbleach Creepers burned down Notre Dame.
5 likesWisemankugel Memicus WRONG!Creepers don’t cause fire,so the only answer is blazes!(ghasts aswell)I shudder at this misuse of Minecraft lore!
12 likes/s
BreadFarmer what
0 likesBreadFarmer u see the /s right it’s stands for sarcasm
0 likes@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1
9 likesWhile its true that Minecraft, sales wise, just grew even more, its cultural impact had died down a shit ton after about 2015 or so, and from 2016-late 2018, most people saw it as an cringy game with an cringy fanbase, untill this year that is
It never died, it's just weaker now. Emp and Adrian are both right
1 likeA brief resurgence isn't going to last forever. Also, it will never be as popular as it was back then.
0 likes@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1
0 likesIt definitely had a relatively desolate period from 2015 - 2018. It peaked in 2013-2014.
I SAID HOLD THE NOTRE DAME, NOT DROP IT!
0 likesIt isn't popular at all compared to its hay day right now, and also it being a meme it's not going to last as long ethier.
0 likesTo be continued…
3 likesin all honesty considering all the stats the hissing brought to a channel my reaction would be hiss away dear friends and invite your friends. i will build an empire on your army xd
0 likesMy man out here using all caps as background music. Excellent choice
1 likewow. He was popular in 2016? Omg it seems like much longer than that
0 likes0:00 Opening
635 likes1:58 LeafyIsBorn
3:33 LeafyIsNew
6:09 LeafyIsCrafty
10:25 LeafyIsRising
16:34 LeafyIsHere
19:53 LeafyIsCracking
26:45 LeafyIsBlazing
28:47 LeafyIsWounded
31:21 LeafyIsFalling
34:03 LeafyIsBlackballed
45:05 LeafyIsGone
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Ok, thx???
3 likesthanks
5 likesYou shall rise to the very top of this comment section
16 likesThis album rocks, thanks
5 likesOof
0 likesHe should have called the last one LeafyIsntHere
1 likeMelody is crying
0 likes@Gregory Jagger yhhhhh
0 likesIdioticReborn thanks!
0 likesi don't want to like this comment
0 likesIdioticreborn didn’t expect to see your comment here I remember you commenting on fan hc videos
0 likesThank you
0 likesHoly crap YouTube did to LeafyisHere what they would later do to LouderwithCrowder!
0 likesYou’ve got great music taste my friend
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He really does
0 likesThis aged well, and then horribly, and then well again
1 likeHuh. This formula of gameplay plus commentary is some of what I see with Northernlion.
0 likesYou know in his drug experience stories he actually comes off as pretty likeable. It's too bad he didn't keep up with chilled out stories like that.
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Large LArry The storytime videos were always my favorite. To bad he didn't keep making them because I found them very entertaining and even now they're not as stale as his regular content.
3 likesSome of leafys videos were privatized which deletes views
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Too add context they were his most popular
0 likesDam I thought emplemon was born in like 94 or something. Turns out I’m only 1 year younger than him.
0 likes"minecraft got its reputation for being for little kids"
1 likeThe entire internet: so you have chosen death
Great video man!
0 likesI think you're right but you shouldn't dismiss content cops power. It might not kill the fanbase entirely but it turns the community against you, especially if you have a similar fanbase like leafy and idubbbz did. Most youtubers try to keep their head down after it but for people like leafy that wasn't an option. His response video was so poor in quality that a lot of people jumped ship. Youtube shot leafy, idubbbz hit his bleeding out channel with a club.
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Honestly I think the best course of action for Leafy would have been to not respond to the content cop. He had a very active audience that was much different from Idubbbz's audience. By making the shitty response video, it prompted his fans, many whom probably were unaware, to view Idubbbz video, and it was game over from there.
26 likesBronzewarrior It explains why the ricegum content cop didn't kill him, the audience of both channels are pretty diferent so idubbz couldnt turn ricegum's audience against him because ricegum's audience didn't watch idubbz video.
29 likesHowever i think the true power of content cop is not destroying a specific youtuber but more about killing a type of contetn showing the rest of the comunity how toxic that content may be.
The best action would've been if leafy did an actual genuine video taking in advice from the content cop and rebutting little. The community wouldn't have been able to turn on him as much if he showed himself to be the bigger man.
11 likesJoe Joseph i dont think soo, both audience were not so different and leafy style of content requiered an answer i think.
1 likeHe just didn't spected it yo be soo bad he maybe thought he could benefit from the drama, but he didn't realize that idubbz was able to get a lot more that leafys audience against him
leafy had way younger fans than idubbbz did....without a doubt, there's no way that most of his fans were over 12 judging by the way they acted.
6 likesleafy and ricegum had the same age fans, there's no doubt
0 likesTrue but you have to also remember that every other response is shit too. Maybe even worse, like tanas or ricegums.
0 likesIn my own opinion, CC videos are just fire starters. They attract people with a bright glow, and the get bigger as more people come to see it, whenever if your a fan of Idubbbz, a random patron of YouTube, of a fan of the targeted person. Soon that fire grows into something bigger, and at that point, there is the chance that it dies down like every other big or dramatic moment in time (Ricegum), or depending on actions relating to it (like BW says, responses, leaked info, etc) , it can become a chaotic wave of energy that can turn things to ash and leave somewhat of a wreak behind when it's over. it's like a 2017 Californian wildfire, or how Prometheus gave fire to humankind, resulting in the development of a chaotic world. (im not that good at hyperbole's)
0 likesAlso, I think the point in this video neglects that the term "killing channels" is not destroying their viewer-base and leaving them without a job, it's destroying their reputation among any other respected creators and stopping those mistakes. Tana is the best example of that. She was made out to be a fool, and her only response was to apologize. That saved her respect from her audience, but no one else's.
0 likesI love this analogy XD
0 likesThe shining parody ending is golden
1 likeDAMN that’s deep!
1 likewell, he was back
1 likeHey 2021 here.
1 likeYep shits fucked. Its common knowledge the blacklists are everywhere.
Congrats emplemon. You called it.
So what I see
270 likesYouTube wanted to get rid of leafy for promoting cyber bullying, but after successfully doing so, caused most of YouTube to go into a mess. Creating the Adpocalypse, the Demonitization, the weird perverted kid videos. And so much more.
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Yep
47 likesRemoving leafy channel was the biggest mistake
And YouTube is fucked up now because of it
xxx_barbz_xxx exactly,
36 likesIt's quite ironic how YouTube seems to like to censor videos explaining depression, but then showing a suicide victim on 1 on trending.
This was the beginning of the apocalypse that YouTube inflicted on itself. How sad.
9 likesBetter to have one large channel to bash than the rest of youtube.
1 likeIs this the butterfly effect
3 likes@Le Bro yes
0 likesLOL no youtube got hungry with power after taking him down
1 likeCONTENT COP STARTED THE ADPOCALYPSE
0 likesTHIS. Plus, I find it really ironic that he was singled out and labelled as a "cyberbully" when, shortly after his YouTube career ended, the commentary genre became one of the most popular on YouTube. I really don't get why everyone paints him as the devil when so many people are currently poking fun at the tiktok kids for views. Nobody calls those cyberbullies. And rightfully so. Man, I miss the old YouTube...
2 likes21:10 the reason why leafy is gone lmao
0 likesDamn cant believe I havent found you til now, youtube algorythm sucks!
0 likes21:34 while he didn’t die physically his Chanel died
0 likesi am excited for a sequel
0 likesSo I guess MrBlackDarkness666’s curse really DID work.
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Holy shit you're right
1271 likesOmg this dude really has connections with the underworld
1223 likesOh, now im interested!
293 likesLMAO
169 likesOh shit
202 likesI guess it did work after all.
126 likesColin the Rook Main I'm gonna learn his craft
49 likesBruh 😂😂😂😂😂 that was the funniest thing ever
37 likesTil magic is real
36 likesContact him.
16 likesA Bin Thinner
8 likesYeah, he summoned Idubbbz from the omniverse.
77 likesOr, maybe he has connections with Youtube.
19 likesColin the Rook Main I'm a ash jager main FAM
3 likesRainbow six siege is the best game yet Maybe MrBlackDarkness666 could use a ritual to bring your ACOG back.
13 likesColin the Rook Main shit I remember that
1 likeShould I thank the devil for that
5 likesI didnt realize it was that long lol
4 likesThe hero Youtube deserved...?
10 likesEither his or Stomedy's curse.
6 likesthat's a funny way to say jews
4 likesSure did
1 likeColin the Rook Main I love Vlad!
1 likeFOOLS NO MERE CHANNEL COULD DEFEAT HIM!
4 likesONLY THE CREATORS OF THIS VIRTUAL WORLD HAD THE POWER TO BANISH HIM!
Colin the Rook Main where’s my armor plates rook
1 likeColin the Rook Main It’s not Rook it’s Lardex: Destoyer of Buffets
4 likesKurt Barthalemu iirc he said he was Dutch
2 likesWoah
2 likesWhoa
1 likehmmmm...
0 likesWell, the darkness guy was telling them that the curse was not undone yet. That he needed to perform another spell. But then they like, laughed at him... So yeah.
15 likesThe curse wasn’t the death of Leafy after all but it was the death of his channel, RIP
1 likeDear MrBlackDarkness666,
10 likesPlace a curse on the FCC and Ajti Pai
Signed,
majority of the United States
Colin the Rook Main As much as i hate it, i remember that video, you made me chuckle.
1 likeWow that's an old reference lol.
0 likesi made a vid about him and said the same thing. really tho it could have been a partr of it. karma is a bitch to people who bully other people
0 likesHISSSSS
1 likeOne of the last things I remember from MrBlackDarkness666 was him roasting Leafy.
2 likesLol
0 likesI already knew that
0 likes...
1 likehis curse had to be reversed
0 likesmaybe he didnt fully reverse it and this shit happened
rook mine
0 likesholy shi
0 likesDID
0 likesCan someone explains
1 likeColin the Rook Main EgAd
1 likeColin the Rook Main someone explain this to me plz?
1 likeTurtato as you know, if you watched the video, or watched the drama alert, that MrBlackDarkness666 placed a curse on leafy. So, he’s theorizing the the curse killed leafy
1 likePsycho Zebra honestly, i'd believe that.
0 likesColin the Rook Main Holy shit, i forgot he cursed Leafy
0 likesderp rant Maybe it’s good leafy made the video then because leafy needed to fall
0 likesI DON'T GET IT
0 likesWat do u mean whose mrblack?
0 likesHes not dead his channels dead
0 likesthought about that in the whole time when I was watching the video oml-
0 likesHow do i save a comment
0 likesHoly sh*t, you're right!
0 likesgood to know someone mains a good op
0 likesyes another one of my rook main brothers
0 likesI respect rook mains
0 likesomg the memories!
0 likesDamn
0 likesColin the Rook Main what curse did he put on him?
0 likesthe thing about prohecys is that some of them are easily predicted
0 likes>leafy tries lifting it by using comedy and parodies as excuse
0 likes>dosen't work
>content cop kicks in
>tree gets cut down by ex-subscribers, pyro and content cop
> leafy the leaf dies
A motherfuckin hero lmfao, I salute thee MrBlackDarkness666
0 likesNo, it was because he brought to surface the Pedophilic nature of various youtubers. Then, He was forced to stop making Video's. I get it bro, you're being cool and dark or whatever... but thats what actually happened.
1 likeBetter pass those armor plates around
0 likeshe caused demonitization
0 likeshave you seen the channel's recent videos? very fuckng wierd
0 likeswhats the name of that flute meme thing?
2 likesholy fuck
0 likesyour wrong, it was idubbz
1 likeRight?!?!
0 likesHISSSSSSSSSSS
1 likeAw man you beat me to it lmao
0 likesColin the Rook Main 😂
0 likesBig if real
0 likesStill sticking with my theory that Leafy's loss of fame is due to his infernal contract for popularity expiring. He sold his chin to the devil for his brief time in the sun.
0 likesI've been thinking that the whole vid
0 likesKid u know to much
0 likesDefinitely, he got to see his channel grow so quickly, and the he got destroyed and humiliated, i kinda feel sorry for him, i wasn't too aware of all the drama back then so i didn't really hate him, and hating him now would be a really stupid thing.
0 likesI need to check if mrblackdarkness666 is still available. He seems cool.
0 likesThat’s why he refused to undo the curse even when pressured by keemstar
0 likesColin the Rook Main well, the content cop did have 666k likes
0 likesWtf
0 likesNo shit Sherlock.
0 likesColin the Rook Main PRAISE JESUS!
0 likesHe took it off on drama alert though
0 likescoincidence?? either he has demon powers or is really good a predicting how these situations go in reality... STRANGE SHIT MAN!!!
0 likeswas just about to comment that
0 likesfainted youtube channel is the new leafy
0 likesYour right magic is real
0 likesIT MUST HAVE!
0 likesooooh shit
0 likesHMMMM intensifies
0 likesTbh that guy really just needed some love.
0 likesNo. The witch cherylyn barnes put magik onto him... Its in his last 20 vids. She contacted a real occultist and youtuber named "share his vision" and asked if deep manipulation could be poured over leafys soul essence. All his social medias were manipulated and deleted. If you wish to visit the youtuber "share his vision" then search him. Perhaps he will grant you a dark blessing.
0 likesT
0 likesRook mine
hmmmmmm
4 likesI guess it wore off
6 likesI wanted to keep it at 117, but this comment not exactly true anymore.
3 likesNah chief
0 likes@doko wher Ya sure?
0 likesUnlucky ggwp
1 likeIdubbz exposed keem as a target that started from the depths of nfkrz being angered at keem
0 likesLeafy and grade had the strength to harm him
The doom instrumental is amazing
4 likesEmpLemon I want to thank you for being creative and continuing doing your own thing. Watching your videos give me memory trips on historic events on YouTube and, honestly, inspires me to be better with my own work. I hope more YouTubers can follow your image of being the best at what they're good at rather than follow the trends, and I hope YouTube can have its "renaissance" again. Keep doin' whatcha doin' because true pieces of work will always get recognized!
13 likesYou know... It really is sad to see that time has flown past us over the years... and leafy's downfall happened a couple of years ago. It really does make you wonder where has all the time gone through the years. This is why I love EmperorLemon's content, I love it because most of the videos that he makes like youtube geographic or meme theory really makes me think about things that I never would have thought about before. It makes you feel like you are learning something new and you start to wonder and question about things and think about so much to the point where you make your own hypothesis on the subject. Or atleast thats how I feel when I watch emplemons content, anyways... keep up the amazing work as always! I'm a huge fan of this channel and I am certainly looking forward to whatever your next video could be.
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And so am I. There's more to stories behind the door.
0 likesThe question becomes: are you doomed to the same fate?
12 likesFor real though, fantastic upload, quickly became one of my favorite in recent memory. Seemingly no stone was left unturned. I envy your work ethic because I know you're working on this on top of college and an at least part-time job.
"It would never again be popular" welp
0 likesI don’t quite understand how a lot of people commenting ”Hisss” and whatnot is so damaging under the pretense that that is the only thing they’re doing. There are tons of bots commenting all over the place that are waaay worse
0 likesI cant believe I used to watch leafy
0 likes40:42 I mean, they did that
0 likes34:39 saving the time so i can keep watching next time
0 likes3:43 - Unless you're a "quirky" hot white girl.
0 likes33:40 wow thanks for ruining my night. looks like ill be getting no sleep tonight.
0 likesWell wait till this video gets demonitised by YouTube
0 likesso THAT's why people hated on minecraft in middle school....
0 likesyou solved a mystery i didn't even know i needed solved
and now we call it shadowbanning
0 likesThe amount of research that must have gone into this video is staggering, well done my dude.
11 likesLittle did you know Minecraft would make a brief comeback
1 like50:35 never ever episode 0 (especially considering this came out like 3 months before the first episode)
0 likesPart 2 when?
1 likeI used to watch tf outta leafy ngl he had me fuckin dying. I didn't really like the making fun of kids thing tho.
0 likesI like how CaptainSparklezis was the McDonald's and Sky was Burger King
0 likesDecember 2020: Leafy is back again again
0 likesI can't believe content cop was 5 years ago ._.
0 likesLeafy is like if Kanye died after 808s&Heartbreaks
1 like2016 was like a World war on youtube
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And i miss it
116 likesBut in a good way
58 likesthe great meme war...donaldus vs hitlery
74 likes4chan vs shiah
Idubbbz vs cringe
And it's still going on
0 likesThat was the best year tho
15 likesLeafy was germany
11 likes@Negative7 it was a very obscure reference to the video „is youtube now europe in 1914“ by emperor tigerstar, watch it, it explains what i meant
3 likesMan I miss those days YouTube was so exciting
18 likesMeme war 1
9 likesNext in 2020, be prepared
And it was beautiful.
9 likes@Niggo .0 no he was Philippines
1 likeBut it was good to just sit back and grab some popcorn
4 likesAnd it was entertaining as fuck. I miss old iDubbbz
4 likesMore like WW2 to me
2 likesI miss that world war
2 likes@Future Shock looking forward to it
2 likesCan't wait for the second war
1 like2016-2017
0 likesA world war where everyone was playing Russian roulette with knifes
1 likeLike wwe a crappy pg era followed afterwards
1 like7 years war
0 likesNo
0 likesLate 2018 was a true war, with the entire thing escalating
1 likeIf 2018-2019 was WW2, then Leafy v. Idubbbz is the Spanish civil war (of commentary)
That reptile mashup was dope
0 likes“Minecraft had reached its peak”
0 likesMuahahahahahaha
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
14:43 just realized now that this was from MF DOOM
1 likeAlot of that Minecraft stuff aged like milk
1 likeAs someone who was always used to being the “New” audience on youtube, looking back and seeing how much YouTube has changed, and just remembering the leafy drama, and then suddenly realizing that everything is gone is kind of sad in a way. It feels like the storm is over, but at the same time- we’re waiting for a new one. It’s scary how big a part of my life YouTube has been these past few years, and actually feeling like a veteran is a very puzzling but pleasing feeling.
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Ravioli Ravioli, give me a reason to live same
0 likesit’s an odd feeling for me, personally. i remember in ‘08 watching youtube live with katy perry lmao. i was 10 at the time, and i’ll be 20 this year. youtube has been a part of my life for 10 years, half of my life. it’s pretty crazy.
7 likesDude thanks for putting this in words, i feel the exact same way
4 likesIt's SK Same here! I started around the same time, but I was 8 at the time and now I'm 19
0 likesCouldn't have said it better myself.
0 likes6:37
0 likesstill waiting on this one.
oh man this aged poorly
1 like19:43 no way i just recognized this as desmond from smiling friends LMAOOOOO
0 likesGod the mf doom vibes
4 likesMan, is it really that long ago? Time flies
168 likesI know I'm late but love the MF DOOM
3 likesI vaguely remember hearing about this a couple years ago I think? Whenever I heard about it though I thought “Leafy? Like from bfdi?”
0 likesThank you for the use of MF DOOM
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RIP
2 likes@DarkPit99Swell what mfdoom song was that at 14:50
2 likes@iCEE Ops ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MANS NAME
1 like@An Absurd Existence what’s the song name tho?
1 like@iCEE Ops MadVillian - All Caps
0 likes32:37 or maybe he just liked doing it
0 likesoh my god i actually drew that creeper in the thumbnail at 2:27 back in 2010 when i was 14 years old and i guess leafy found it somewhere and used it. so fucking surreal.
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LOL
6 likesi don't really mind, it was just some silly thing i made on deviantart and at some point i think people started spreading it around without a source. the most surreal thing by far was when i was playing tf2 (this was before i knew the drawing had gotten any popularity) and i suddenly saw it on a wall as someone's spray. i was like ".....wait isn't that........WAIT."
106 likesMako Ray lol, you still play tf2 (I do)
4 likesnah i moved onto overwatch, tf2 has a special place in my heart but you can only play so many hours of the same game
14 likesMako Ray haha, especially considering valve is making THESE DAMN UPDATES TAKE SO LONG!
4 likesMako Ray
0 likesThe one on the right? Or the one on the left?
Mako Ray looks like your creeper EXPLODED in popularity. Ba dum
8 likesgunshotMako Ray same goes for overwatch tho
1 likeI'm sorry for your I lI II I__
5 likesMako Ray holy shit, I remember posting that exact comic on my instagram a few years back.
1 likeedit: grammar
Hey, I've seen that comic before.
3 likesNice to know the guy behind it.
That's insane
0 likesRest in peace.
0 likesIdubbz is only....
0 likesTHE TIP OF THE ICEBERG MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I'd say
1 likeHurt but didn't kill-tana (kinda keem)
Hurt killed-jinx how to ricegum
Didn't do anything(fbe)(kinda keem)
Can't believe I remembered the grand turismo theme, holy shit nice call on that audio
0 likesNot only was I entertained every single second in your video, but you also have completly changed my opinion about Leafy or anyone who wants to get popular on youtube for that matter. You are right, this whole incident was tragic in the end if you look at the potential of the positive change on this entire website Leafy could have achieved if he stopped when it was time to stop and realised the path he was walking on. Thank you, seriously.
17 likes0:36, well nowadays the ship isn't even there
0 likesDid not expect the BoJack intro. Nice.
2 likesTwo ways to pronounce
0 likesLeafy-is-here or leaf-yish-ere
4:00 that wasent my mentality, I just wanted thought "eh ima just make some goofy edits and see what happens".
0 likesLeafy was playing chess...
2039 likesMrBlackDarkness was playing Yu-gi-oh and summoned Exodia
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It's called Battle Monsters in the Anime or Manga, but this isn't the Anime so you are right with that.
15 likes4D chess right off the handle
17 likeseveryone's playing checkers but i've been playing chess for years
13 likesAnd now MrBlackDarkness makes amazing shitpost animations.
13 likesGet Exodia'd
3 likesCringe
0 likesThe likes are a fitting 666
2 likes@ToOriginal 669*
0 likesHaving never seen a single yu gi oh episode, I somehow understood that. Memes = Education
3 likes@QuickenedDDR Duel Monsters not Battle Monsters
1 like@pokestar999 Well never mind you beat me too it. Good job.
0 likesTom Hill thanks bro
1 likeAccording to the anime exodia isnt as powerful as you think
0 likes@Tim Hook Well it's wrong. If you have all 5 cards you win the game. Even the Eldrazi aren't that strong. Nothing in any card game is.
0 likesNo, he kept it up to milk it for every last bit.
0 likesRicegums killed him over time
1 likeThat curse really was something, huh?
0 likesMrBlackDarkeness never lifted the curse and now leafy was banned after his short lived return 🤔.
1 like21:30
The worst part is, there was a point where his content was decent. His rant videos were very entertaining. He had funny stories, a loose, hyperbolic, and overdramatic way of speaking, and he seemed like he enjoyed making those types of videos. His story about him meeting a pedophile is still one of my favorites on the internet. He turns this simple story into an adventure with twists and turns and punchlines, it was incredibly interesting.
262 likesThe problem was he ran out of stories. Once he focused his content on reacting to random people's videos, it was just the same, overly harsh shit everytime. He used the same editing techniques, he didn't change up his style or the people he ranted against, and eventually, everyone grew out of it. So they went to people like Idubbbz and H3H3 who made similar content with creativity, memes, and actual variety.
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Exactly. You summed it up perfectly.
12 likes👌👌👌
My thoughts exactly. I was watching him 2015 before he really blew up and I loved his story videos and even some of his milder rant videos. I’d never seen commentary videos before so I thought they were amazing. I stopped watching him even before Idubbz did the content cop on him because he was just trying way too hard and his content just became unenjoyable.
9 likesThis. This is so true.
1 likeI loved his stories, and the E-girl series was cool too. shame he had stopped mixing up that content
0 likesreally miss his story videos
0 likesSuperultramegaa LastName He was fun but it just faded out of him. Kinda sad.
0 likesPlot twist: This was all from the curse of Mr.darkness 666
0 likesI don’t know how you got away with playing MF Doom in your video, but I wish to learn.
0 likesLooking back at this makes me miss the 2015-2016 era when YouTubers had edgier senses of humor and were willing to speak their minds. Nowadays the strict terms of service and the demonetization system has neutered any free-thinking youtubers. All of the popular youtubers are now bland, walking-talking commercials. I want people like Filthy Frank, Leafy, and EmpLemon to fill the trending page not James Charles, Dream, or Charli D’Amelio.
4 likeswow, came to watch again and saw a whole slew of recent comments, algorithm bless the Emperor!
1 likeI used to be subbed to him. I think your YouTube murder theory might be valid cause I remember there was a point his video's just flat out stopped appearing on my feed. I remember having to actively search his channel to see if/when he uploaded. And that got tedious enough to where I lost interest in his video's, then gradually lost interest in his genre all together.
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guilty as well.
14 likesYooo i didn't expect you to be here. Nice job on your warframe videos.
1 likeThe Reaper Hunter same here, noticed he was toxic to his friends soon after
0 likesSame. I had to actually wonder how things were going to see his videos.
1 likeI don't think he's returning.
0 likes4:44 that’s almost impossible
0 likesIf you want to make it big on YouTube you have to milk that vegan teacher
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Cause everyone knows if you want to make it big on YouTube you have to! [Insert criticism]
2 likeseither that or dream
0 likes@mr freakout yeah among us also 😳
0 likes41:26
0 likes5 minute crafts - G
Nothing better than having a child watch fake life hacks without adult supervision
Are you telling me skydoesmimecraft is still going? I watched him as a kid
0 likesIt really is crazy... I never thought about Leafy's downfall like this. Some kid played Minecraft and drew a moderately big crowd, then 180ed into the commentaries and blew up to crazy heights and blinding speed... and then went power crazy, inadvertently sending millions to harass people, getting involved within a ridiculously convoluted situation that ultimately led to himself and Grade walking away without so much as a farewell and ultimately, just as fast as he'd become the king, his contemporaries and even YouTube itself burned the palace down.
10 likesI thought of it back when it happened as some punk harassing others for being different, and then backstabbing Keem and treating Nick Cash (HWYM) like a slave ("is $20 okay?"), and then having all the shit he did finally bite him as iDubbbz and all of the others turned on him and ended his rise. But looking at it now, I see a dumb, edgy kid on the Internet who rose too quickly and ended up losing the world. It truly is tragic.
Looked like that curse carried out after all...
0 likesIt's worth noting that xcodeh was one of if not the first to make this sort of storytim/commentary + gaming style of video
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bro u know xcodeh?? fuckin god tier person
0 likesIronic he literally did sink lol
0 likes2:10
0 likes"If you look at his channel today"
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(it's gone)
The reason why Keemstar managed to survive the content cop was because he took everything in stride, he didn't retaliate, and he was was chill enough to even laugh at himself. He even has a gnome keemstar on his desk. Leafy on the other hand can't take any form of criticism and and immediately retaliates; this eventually prooves iDubbbz right and leafy, eventually helping out digging his own grave even faster now.
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Swing Thing He still could’ve survived either way honestly
0 likesNobody killed Leafy but Leafy himself
0 likes1:40 bojack horseman is on drugs again ain’t he
0 likes“Minecraft would never again be as popular.”
0 likesGOD I WISH
I LOVE MINECRAFT BUT IT’S JUST GETTING MILKED LIKE AN OLD COW NOW
And leafy is STILL not a good person, btw
1 likelove the Bojack Horseman music
1 likeWhat we do here is go back back back back...
178 likesTo when Leafy was actually relevant.
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@CoolNerd04 i'm gay!
1 likeWell done
0 likes"it's my sleepover I get to chose the movie"
0 likesLittle did he know mincraft rose from the ashes
1 likeI hope Turkey Tom is taking notes…
2 likesthis is so incredible! I really appreciate you making this. You earned a new dedicated subscriber
139 likesA sound from an edgy era
0 likes"Hisssss"
he really was here
0 likes“It would never again be as popular”
0 likesHa.
19:43 is that the same guy who played Desmond on Smiling Friends?
0 likesYouTube Geographic is easily my favorite series of yours. All the hard work you put into this video is apparent and it’s great! Keep up the good work, proud of you.
13 likes21:55 reminds me of dream
2 likes5:31 didnt catch this the first time lol
0 likeswell he was right
0 likesYou know, Im not surprised that you knew about Lemon Jelly's Music, always have a special place in my playlist for them.
0 likesI miss that little snake of a boy
132 likesThis video was so sad and yet so captivating?? EmpLemon you are truly a god in content creation.
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He still can’t beat Ahoy or LEMMiNO in terms of sheer quality though.
3 likesThose two are insane when it comes to quality over quantity. :P
Woh
0 likesSo?
Jademau6 said that EmpLemon, the creator of this video, makes really high quality content.
To reply to Jademau6’s comment and make conversation, I said that there were two YouTubers that make some of the highest quality YouTube videos out there at the cost of quantity.
It really isn’t as off-topic as you’re making it out to be. :/
His account is back now and he has 4 videos and like 150 something subs lol
0 likesleafy was here is now leafy was banned.
1 likewhat the fuck youtube?
I took a double take when I heard the Bojack horseman intro near the start.
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The joke is that Leafy is a washed up Youtuber on the interwebz :D
0 likes@schizo on meds Backs in the 10’s I was a very famous YouTuber
3 likesI demand a public apology for saying minecraft will never again be as popular as it was.
0 likesIdubbbz isn't meant to kill channels, people just build it up that way.
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Cortana chan The Internet is like Ancient History, we exaggerate things to a Mythological standard. Its fascinating.
2 likesThe Fat Dragon Fair enough, this was amazing
1 likeThe sequel is here!!!
0 likesthat shit about MrBlackDarkness666 is lowkey just leafy and his fans bein a bully wtf
2 likesThe fact I noticed the grand turismo music at 20:01 shows I have no life
0 likeswhat were all the songs used in this video? Because there are only 3 cited in the desc
1 likeAm I the only one who just discovered that this channel exists?
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yep
0 likesall this analyse of why he left just for it to be because he had a run in with the irs lol.
0 likesThe actual YouTube gestapo lol
1 likeThis just made me wanna watch bo jack horseman
0 likesI think you might have been on to something when you imply that YouTube itself was conspiring against Leafy somehow, considering they banned him just as he was making a comeback.
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The new corporate, bland and inoffensive youtube won't ever allow again edgy youtubers like leafy to gain a platform at all.
52 likes@Space Man Seems like Mum key was a huge victim of this too.
8 likesYouTube couldn’t leaf him alone lol
16 likesfacts miss sonia
1 like@Mercury yeah like that’s ever gonna happen
0 likes@El Jay Eh maybe when everyone gets tired of sanitized entertainment. Shock Humor seems to explode like every time the coming generation enters that edgy teen phase.
2 likes@Ultimus Primus There are heaps of new platforms emerging because YT is destroying its brand. Odysee is one.
5 likes@trav v Hopefully they’ll be better
1 like@trav v alright sounds nice
1 like@trav v and none of them ever take off lmao
5 likes@Ketsuban Solo They do the job fine.
0 likes@El Jay good
0 likesI enjoyed The Shining ending lol
0 likesEmpLemon is a prophet.
0 likesLike all empires they will always fall even if they last 1000s years or more eventually they will fall and Leafy is a obvious example that empires don’t last
0 likesLeafy was really was patient zero of demonetization.
0 likes50:17
310 likes"Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself"
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And that was the tragic story of darth leafy.
26 likesyou can tell EmpLemon really wants his channel to die. Telling people to unsubscribe didn't work so now he went and exposed Youtube's closed-door conspiracy to kill off Leafy's channel, ensuring a retaliatory measure against him.
0 likesCongrats on 1m subs
2 likesi got a 15 second unskippable koolaid ad on this video
0 likeson an emplemon video
The name of the starting is Bojack horseman theme, for anyone curious
1 likeOh shut this vid was 50 minutes! Felt like 30, nice.
0 likesActually good job. This video was amazingly done. It was perfect I learn a lot of shit about leafy that I never really looked into or even thought about, i use to watch leafy, laugh and just have fun but as it turns out it was a lot darker then I ever thought. This is literally YOUTUBE HISTORY! It’s pretty much a tail like Adam and Eve, the boy who cried wolf. It’s like it was made up as a story to say a message or scar kids. All I could do is commend you. Amazing.
67 likesOnly thing that didn't age well was saying minecraft would never be so popular again
1 likeLeafy wasn’t perfect but he’s the tombstone of an era of YouTube as a free, truly entertaining space for all instead of the corporate PC bs YouTube only allows nowadays.
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leafy is living proof that bullying gamers should be normalized
5 likesGrats on 1M
2 likesBoy do i have news for you…
1 likeI hope Calvin watches this video, feels all nostalgic and decides to come back to YT. Even just to say goodbye
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Would be awesome tbh
15 likesDidnt watch his content but i guess it"d be pretty cool
9 likesTBH I hope so.
1 likeYep I miss him
1 likeEric Felds Depression doesn't work like that but ok
0 likesidk a symptom of depression is suffering from suicidal thoughts. his (Eric Felds) comment is still trash tho
0 likesNow we have 5 million leafy clones
0 likesmasterpiece video right here
0 likes"never again be so popular"
0 likesChapter 11 should have been called LeafyIsn'tHere
1 likeI think the real thing that killed his channel was the curse.
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Sanitary Rap although the guy was weird AF...
3 likesSeems like the curse really took place tbh. And honestly I wouldn't fuck with curses
Sanitary Rap maybe his curse made youtube destroy his channel Lool
0 likesWell leafy is banned now
1 like5:46 hoho you’re challenging me
1 likewell leafy came back then was killed off
2 likesI've never even heard of leafy before
0 likesThis actually makes me respect Leafy, then towards his fall pity him.
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Same.
1 likewhy
0 likes+Burgermaru Probably because he's just some random guy with average production value, but who worked hard and was clever and eventually got to the top.
12 likesSame
0 likesPatrick Donohoe why?
1 likeHe was stupid and cruel and provided little of value, or even interest. I thought this video greatly overstated his "potential".
1 likeMy comment was in reference to Leafy, btw.
1 likeI honestly don't understand the appeal but I guess I can't deny that some folks got something out of it. Imo he was just a dick though.
0 likesHe never denied that he was a dick. And I'm pretty sure that it's just a character that he puts on when on camera. But yeah, I've always respected him, and I miss his content.
0 likesPoor Tetra. She never deserved to be his profile picture.
6 likesMy money is on the spell.
1 like12:32 HOOOOOH YOU GOT BALLS POSTING THAT PIC LEMON KEKEKEK
1 likeoh fuck yea tho I remember the edge of 2015.. It was LIKE A FUCKING DRUG!! AAAAA WISH I COULD RE LIVE IT
The story of the Titanic had only been told dozens of times?
0 likesAs a past edgy kid, it wasn't Content cop that made me unsubscribe from Leafy, although it did make me more critical of him, it was the fact that his videos were so repetitive and long. I couldn't stand watching a 10-20 minute video with cringy jokes and forced roasts day after day without variety. However your theory of Youtube does make sense, but we can't simply it with a single cause fallacy, in truth it was a conglomerate of reasons. Actually scratch that, we all know the real reason was because of Mr.BlackDarkness666's curse.
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Agreed
0 likesI really liked his content in around 7th grade, by 8th I naturally transitioned into better content and I still haven't even watched IDubbbz's video on him. Now I'm going into 10th and without this video in my recommended, I probably would have completely forgotten leafy. His content did change, but only in minor ways, like new gameplay or when he added the puppet thing, which I found really unfunny.
1 likepretty crazzi to see history unfold liek that
0 likesSure, that Darkness dude was kinda cringey, but I feel bad for him now
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yea him and i myself made fun of dude so bad
0 likesIt was pretty obvious that Leafy could not survive in a climate of political unrest. I didn't expect shooting him in the sun though.
0 likesYou should update this
1 likeI wouldn't expect to watch a 50 minute video about a youtuber like Leafy, but this was surprisingly entertaining to listen to while I drew. The vid was really well made and actually had evidence (which is great for a change lmao)
22 likes🦀LeafyIsGone🦀
2 likesI think your theory may be correct.
0 likesIt actually sunk. Cuz YouTube terminated it.
1 likeyoutube himself stabbed leafy
0 likesExtremely intelligent analysis. Youtube needs more channels like you. Subbed
25 likesand then the Government of youtube bombed the USS leafy twice
0 likesgreat video :)
1 likeBest YouTube GEOGRAPHİC
2 likesI’mma buy the hat
0 likesThis video is one of my favorites. It is so enjoyable and it mostly has to do with the editing. It's absolutely perfect. This is a great editing style. Great visuals with tons of music. This is a great documentary style for Youtube.
51 likesLove this
0 likesdid I just hear a MF DOOM track on a emplemom video??? this is your best video bro
0 likesupvoted because bojack theme <3
0 likeslooking back at it the history of leafy and the history of dream on this site is pretty similar...
0 likeswonder if they will have the same end
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the diffrence is that dream is less edgy then leafy i dont think hes going any time soon
0 likes@Face McShooty true and dream did some what approve of his fans action but he's to big for yt to do the demonize thing it would be sucide he hit 20 million in a year
0 likesInb4 YouTube sees you exposing their censorship of leafy and does the same thing to this video
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Random Commenter TACTICAL CENSORSHIP INCOMING!
3 likesIts over.
exactly what I was thinking
2 likesAll Caps Placment is SOOOO GOOD
3 likesfunny that he didnt change to this day
0 likes14:50 I love u emp, you’re a doom fan
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I was shocked to hear that
0 likesHere I was being confused about Captainsparklez and Minecraft dying until I checked out the upload date. I guess you can't predict absolutely everything...
0 likesI hate myself for saying this but i honestly miss leafys videos before he started attacking good people, he was very informative on shitty youtubers and kind of funny to watch still he shouldn't have made fun of an autistic man :/
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Ninjamantis Yeah he shouldve turned so edgy.
2 likesNinjamantis I only found out about leafy because people were talking about that video
1 likeNinjamantis He was clearly sorry when he did it, or else he wouldn't have deleted it.
0 likesbullshit you delete things when you know you're wrong and don't want any more flack XD
0 likesNinjamantis And if he kept it up, people like you would argue he didn't care, smh
1 likeminecraft would never be that populair ever again... that didnt age well
0 likesi like that the shining refrence at the end
1 likethe way he says mineeeee craft is amazeing
0 likeswho else remembers the MCPVP era of leafyishere?
0 likesI think leafys style and attitude resonated with people a lot more than most would like to admit
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Francis Board Coppola people where trendhopping for likes and virtue signaling, leafy is the our og of mayham
14 likesI love your username LOL
4 likesFor a few days, I was one of those people. I admit it. My best reason was that I was 13 years old. Never again.
6 likesSo, it was actually about 3 months. My parents never found out. We never talked about it. They would have rightly told me to rethink my entertainment and-
Basically, online anonymity is the biggest mistake humanity has ever made collectively.
Leafy only has 81k subs. We won Mr Stark.
0 likeswhile i am not doubting your research I did want to point out that at his peak - 5 million subscribers - he attained 0.002% of approximate YouTube users - 2.6 billion - as a subscriber base. When you are a statistical anomaly at the top of your rise - any fall is not really going to need much to become a thing. If YouTube pushed him off his hill it wouldn't really take any effort. Imagine in any other world where .0002% is considered a savage success and maybe it looks different? I dunno... I hate math...
0 likesguys he’s back
0 likesRemember guys leafy got banned
0 likesHoly shit man this was amazing . Besides from the controversy around his name , I kinda miss Leafy ...
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MankeyGamez he made stuff interesting
37 likesSame
4 likesHe made my middle school liveable
23 likesMankeyGamez He actually had a pretty funny style commentary, it’s just that he was a bit mean
29 likesAdraria8 honestly true
0 likesMankeyGamez i miss him too
3 likesyeah he was good kinda like old youtube. Leafy used a shit camera and just had good content
6 likesI fucking miss the bloke too. It is like he really died.
2 likesI miss him too and the old YouTube
1 likeSame
0 likesMankeyGamez I don’t like him but it was fun to watch the world burn because of him.
0 likesI wonder where he is now with his life
0 likesI miss coming back to YouTube everyday for a new Leafy and Pyrocynical video everyday
0 likesSlovenian Mapping same
0 likesWhat funny is how he said minecraft hit its peak but minecraft blew up again
0 likesSo nasty, it's somewhat of a travesty.
0 likesIdk I think Mr Darkness killed him tbh
0 likesChapter IX: Weafy
3 likesYouTube went from being cool and fun to being scary and dangerous
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super Nova when it change, cause I feel when leafy was here things finally got fun and spicy
1 likeat 14:41 i realized why you get recommended these videos when you watch MF DOOM
0 likesAbout Leafy being recommended, I can still remember seeing his videos recommended mid 2015, I never watched them, but they were there. Then, never saw him again. Only in 2020 when I was curious of his videos I watched it myself and it was recommended to me. Even in 2016-2018 when I'd constantlt watch videos about Leafy one after the other and repeatedly, I'd never get a single video of his recommended. Can't say that youtube 100% is involved, but I don't think its so wild to assume they had their hands in this.
0 likes3:09 you stopped on my exact sub count lol wtf
0 likesNeed an H3H3 video now EMp
0 likesBro, this was so entertaining, on top of this being my favorite type of content, glad this was in my recommended! You earned a sub!
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thanks bro
1 likesyphilis your welcome??
2 likesOh man how is the giant corporation the good guy in this story
0 likesHe should of stay in the Minecraft dirt where he belonged born a villain and died a villain
0 likes>When you check the YT channel of Leafy to see less than 1k subs and nearly all videos wiped...LOL
0 likesVIDEO IDEA! There will NEVER EVER be another superman like Christopher Reeve!!!
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Half of the internet would rally against him. There are still lots of Snyderfans that belive that the Martha scene was a cinematic masterpiece with a deep meaning.
2 likesWhat an amazing video. Thank you for this.
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Top 10 Anime Crossovers
8 likesUsername checks out....
2 likesARTV Didn't expect to see you here, whats up jon?
4 likesFresh new checkmark bud
0 likesJon?, the fuck are you doing here?
1 likeOf all the youtubers I'm subbed to you are the last one I would have expected to see in this comment section
4 likesEdgy Teen when did he do that? Genuine question
0 likes60:00 just seeing if this works
2 likesThink TommyInnit will go through the same demise as Leafy?
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Nope, he isn't remotely controversial enough.
1 likeThe green blob tho? Maybe
rip minute memes
0 likesI miss leafy😣
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@just me whats the name?
0 likessame
0 likesThis man truly built an empire from scratch.
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RealLucidity he shaped the YouTube we know today
11 likesHe’s the seed not the leaf
0 likesHe planted the seed but never got to sit in the tree's shade
1 like36:56 leafy trollsona. Let me off this ride, please.
0 likesLeafyisdead. And Emp called it.
0 likesBro the song in the reptilian part is “all caps”
0 likesnaw leafy was a reptilian all along and thats how he grew lol
0 likesThis feels like an actual tv documentary
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2lazy 2makeausername Its better.
3 likesLe Dnak Mem Much better!
3 likes4:56 Oh My GoD iT's PoLaNd PoLaNd
1 likeSo we gonna get a sequel Leafy Was Back
0 likesWhere does keemstar get his popcorn
0 likesWait you started YouTube when you were 10?!?!?
0 likesSomething about this video...it’s just so amazing! The fact that I remember most of these events during leafy’s reign and the format of this video makes it a masterpiece. Honestly I went from being one a leafy’s loyal fans to hating his guts and joining H3’s side. This video really made me look at Leafy from a different perspective and makes me somewhat feel bad for him....
15 likesHahaha the Curse 😂👌🏻
0 likesEveryone loves gradeAunderA!
2 likesPoodlecorp is never forgotten
0 likesI remember finding Leafyishere and all the yt drama as hilarious as a teen. His content and all the yt drama just becomes stale and boring as you grow older and become more mature.
1 likeDamn dude this is some seriously high quality content. I randomly found this video in my recommend and clicked on it. I was expecting someone just revisiting the grave of leafy and telling the old tale but what I found instead was a full autopsy. The video had me gripped every monent. Keep it up, you just earned a new subscriber.
7 likesI never actualy thought i would actualy watch an almost hour long youtube video but you managed to keep it intressting somehow and i stayed untill the end. This video was pure quality just like everything else you make, keep up the good work.
9 likesReally solid video, Emp. Leafy's story is definitely a unique one that you've illustrated extremely well with your research and terrific use of audio/visual metaphorical language with your editing. Of all the things you're currently doing, this series is my personal favourite and I very much look forward to what the next installment will be about.
6 likesGod damn is it refreshing to see videos like these on YouTube. I just find it interesting to see videos that present YouTube’s history in such an intriguing way, so intriguing that I feel people could view these in the future and truly get a glimpse of what Youtube was like in the mid-2010s. I actually hope that you (Emp Lemon) keep making these videos and almost turn this series into the National Geographic of Youtube (which, given the name of the series, seems to be what you are going for). Either way, up the great work :)
10 likesAhhh leafy... onje of the most epic momments in youtube history. It only shows how much the site has grown over the years where entire communities of youtubers would figth with each other to death. Anyways keep up with the good videos! You are a great youtuber man!
9 likesThis style of video is amazing. You're ability to grab attention for 50+ minutes is truly incredible. Super entertaining and a lot of good information. I was there for the entire rise and fall of leafy, yet still found this entire video intriguing.
8 likesEven a curse though didn't stop Leafy from calling idubbbz a cuck
9 likesDidn't expect myself to spend an hour with this but I couldn't stop watching great video man
9 likes2016 : Leafy
0 likes2017 : Paul Brothers
2018 : T Series vs Pewdiepie
2019 : James Charles ,Tati
2020 : ???
2021 : ???
YouTube is getting boring as corporations have started.
MAD editing
0 likesgreat shining reference at the end
0 likesoh my fucking godd i forgot about the HISSS thing
0 likesim just pissed that leafy took the link pfp, it just sucks.
2 likesLeafyIsTerminated
1 like12:12 I miss it
0 likesYou're only fuckin 20??!? Makes me wish I got my life together sooner haha I was out the bush drinking every night at 20 boy I wish I could take that back
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The video is two years old. You have to add that to his age.
0 likes@Jannik Heidemann Im talking about these old videos
0 likesGod damn, I got more chin than him
0 likesWould just like to say that the gran tourismo music is fantastic
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Gt5 intro took me back
0 likesHe should of switched.
0 likesLove the MF DOOM
1 likeYou thought I wouldn't notice that bojack intro
0 likesThat mf doom part is toooooo sick fuck I love this channel so mucb
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Technically Madvillain. But you're right homie
0 likesLove me some doom
0 likesit would never again be as popular... oh boy
0 likeswhy come so many of EmpLemon's get so many views but has so few subs??
0 likesNooo why did the intro cut the sax solo it's the best part
0 likesShouldn't've swung up.
1 likeGreat video
0 likesRIP DOOM MANNNNNN
2 likesMadvillain in the background is the icing on the cake
0 likesI’m sort of a new YouTube channel but I’ve only been on YouTube since 2016 and over those next 5 years I’ve gotten only 15 subs I’ve seen all of YouTube and tried some new things a lot but I’m still in the regular viewers of all those other videos. the most I’ve seen from my YouTube channel is 400 views
0 likesAll anyone sees from me is just another YouTuber trying to go big without seeing the creators side a passionate kid trying to make people happy
There will Never Ever be another channel like LeafIsHere
4 likesIf you wanna get popular on youtube, you have to make fun of children
0 likesI don't even know who that ist
0 likesJust watched these 52 minutes because my cat's name is leafy
I need to get a life
missed oppurtunity to name chapter IV leafyisgrowing
0 likesWhat person doesnt want to be a famos youtuber. Well me. I dont like to be a youtube slave.
1 likeCareful. You using Captain Sparkles will get you copyright striked. We know how desperate he is.
0 likesIn a nutshell: Leafy got stomped on by YouTube. However in turn, his “death” left a stain, one that would circulate discussion of the fallen YouTube king himself, as what he had done forever changed the Internet, no matter how much YouTube desperately tries to hide it. Personally, your video failed to answer one question that I’m honestly really curious about. Where is he now?
8 likesSomeone's been watching to much of the shining
0 likesALL CAPS when you spell the man name
0 likesLeafy the legend.
0 likes5:49
0 likes... until it did
great video but what's with the antisemitic imagery at 28:01
1 likeOh shit that curse worked
1 likeCheck out a new user named Lucky, he is better than Leafy
3 likesLove the bojack and DOOM keep it up
0 likes"There will Never Ever be another YouTuber like LeafyIsHere"
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CharGrilled that’s true
10 likes@Please Complete All Fields haha true
5 likesMadame: Am I a joke to you?
4 likesEvery other commentary YouTuber:am I a joke to you
11 likesHmm
0 likesI came from another channel like Leafishere. Someone wanted to know who Leafy is. And I ended up watching this again. Glad I did.
4 likes@Tom Hill Which channel? Din't realise anything like this still existed
1 like@MrMcPezza It's called Griffin gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMT73kp7A here's the video I came from.
3 likesBet
1 like*"There will never be another Youtuber like Filthy Frank" would be a better idea
9 likes@Please Complete All Fields I think he meant impact-wise there will never be another YouTuber who broke the mold the way he did.
2 likesPyro is the only big one left
1 like[laughs in Madame]
0 likesThere will be soon
0 likesI’d love another Youtube geographic video on another controversial yter from the past lol. Emp is a channel u can get stuck binging lol
1 likeCry in Daz
0 likesThere will Never Ever be another YouTuber like Filthy Frank or PewDiePie
0 likeswhat happened?
0 likesbullying that's what happened
Oh no. One dislike is going to make sakari lose 10 million dollars. Lol
1 likeAppreciate the DOOM
0 likesALL CAPS
27:58 well i didnt expect to see a anti semetic meme in this video
0 likesDude, the ending of this video is really interesting
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+WillyMacShow did not expect to find you here
14 likesWillyMacShow The Shining analogy was kind of ass but it fit perfectly somehow
57 likesWillyMacShow Oh, hey dude!
0 likesWillyMac did mention Emp in his BehindTheMeme video. So I'm not surprised seeing him here.
1 likelooked the end of the shining and im pretty sure he was referencing it.
1 likeWillyMacShow mister darkness 666 likes
0 likesYh ik I find it disgusting what Youtube did here, no matter how much leafy may have deserved it
5 likesELFanYTP hello epic
0 likesRight??
0 likes"All roasts and no play makes Leafy a gone boy."
6 likesWillyMacShow it was giving homage to the ending scene in Shining, it was also done really well
2 likesInteresting....
0 likesHOPE SOO <3
1 likeIm still waiting for the star_ video…
0 likesCan’t like this vid enough
0 likesBut did he get his name from BFDI or......
0 likesRIP MF DOOM
1 likeI did not think I would actually watch a video that was about an hour about Leafy of all people.
43 likesGood job. You captivated me AND gave me a different outlook on Leafy. Being 20 now, I can actually have the smallest blip of empathy for him.
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binch Tfw you didn't realise this video was an hour long but are in too deep to stop.
1 likethis shit was clean af surprisingly entertaining
0 likesBojack theme buttered my biscuits
0 likesi hate how youtube removed leafy's channel
0 likesLol I was so confused when the bojack horseman intro started to play at the start because it's also my ringtone
1 likeLol you're about to hit a million subs. What will be your epitaph?
0 likesThis. Was. Fascinating, not just any regular commentary. A unique, creative and informative take on normal content. Liked, Great Content Lemon.
11 likesIdubbz deleted content cop on leafy?
0 likesYOOO HE USED ALL CAPS MF DOOM RIP THE VILLAIN
0 likes51:50 did you make it to the end of the timed comments?
0 likesHoly shit. A CAPITAL STEEZ SONG IN THIS VIDEO?????
0 likesIts so funny how it is like history and the fall of an empire. You should do more videos like this. I feel glad to have seen all this stuff while it was happening.
12 likesKeems numbers became better than ever in 2017 due to jake paul partially
0 likesI was expecting some jacknjeffley stuff but this is also good
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What?
0 likesLooking at the commentary about Minecraft reaching its peak is pretty funny.
0 likesSo its YouTube conspiracy or a curse of underrated weirdo wizard. Understandable have a great day.
0 likesI am not one of those who like to watch those YouTube celebrities to much but I like the picture of the dead chanal. Lets be nice to the not nice by remembering this chanal by his Tetra/best Zelda picture meme.
can you imagine spending months on a 50 minute long video, just to get copyright claimed by the outro
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SNMtv are you serious
3 likes@Silver look at the description
11 likesHow did you get all caps by MF DOOM on there
0 likesHe wasted his shots
0 likesMrblackdarkness666’s curse worked hes banned
1 likeBRO LEAFY IS BACK SOMEHOW?
0 likesHES GONNA START A PODAST?
God, 2015-2016 was a wild time. My friends and I were all obsessed with cringe-culture and drama and I followed plenty of commentary channels, like Pyrocynical, Leafy, GradeA, etc. What's weird is that after all the Leafy drama happened, my interest in all of that just vanished. I don't know if it's because the drama train stopped rolling or if I just got bored of all the commentary channels I watched, but that weird period of time where commentary channels ruled Youtube seemed to stop as suddenly as it had started.
9 likesGreat video BTW. I'm glad you actually tried to humanize Leafy rather than just jumping on the hate wagon.
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Spook Nukem same the only one i watch is pyro and thats more of his gaming and weird gaming like videos like i think it was called edit: petscop
0 likesMillions of subscriptions to little over 3 thousand
0 likes3 thousand still is quite a bit but compared to millions, it’s measly
"Unattractive guy" :'DD
0 likesThis came before the great minecraft resurgence on youtube
0 likesWell that's why I make video game music videos.
0 likesThis would be an awesome series to continue for not only bigger YouTubers but also for smaller channels and Twitch streamers as well. Keep up the awesome work and hope you are having a good day.
41 likesYou had me until you tried to justify Leafy's actions at the end. Yes, he was immature, obviously, but he knew what he was doing. He knew it wasn't ok.
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The whole video is a devil's advocate of Leafy's career
0 likesHe did nothing wrong
1 likeDo a youtube geographic about Bitsandbolts
0 likesYouTube killed the leaf
0 likesleafy was here, then IS here, then was here again
0 likesThis is just amazing it is not bashing leafy and is well edited and is just an amazing video with good effort this was just gorgerous.
12 likesWasn’t this video taken down for a little while?
0 likestoday i realised that leafy's pfp is tetra
1 likeHe came back and then got his YouTube account hacked
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he came back?
0 likesNot true at all bro, go check out griffin gaming. it’s the closest thing to leafy content you’ll get in today’s day and age
1 likeThis is the kind of video I expect when I subscribe to somebody; a well thought out, well formulated piece of content with genuine thought and merit, expanding upon its subject. Thankyou EmpLemon, for providing those videos. Keep being amazing.
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Michael sheehan that’s a pretty strict, narrow standard you have, but I can respect that. It’s refreshing to find content so well-developed and thought out amongst the popular garbage that won’t be remembered a week from now.
1 likeWas that a Johnny Cash song? Lol
0 likes3 years late but i still respect using the all caps instrumental. RIP DOOM
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0 likesand now hes gone.....
0 likes16:20 r.i.p
1 likeI hope someday someone could create an animated epic of this time in YouTube's history. What a shame, he planted himself in some fertile soil and began to grow, overshadowing everything before him. He got greedy and tried to scavenge more than he could handle, not looking at what he ate, his leaves, bark, and roots began to rot. Only realizing his mistake one year too late. The season changed and soil could be no more different, some flourished while many perished trying to survive. One could say, his sacrifice was for the better of some, detriment to the climate.
8 likes10:26 what is the name of the song in the background also?
1 like😞 2016 was the best
0 likesSomeone know the name of the awesome music at 22:50
0 likesYES There was NO way a content cop would just destroy leafy. He was targeted and the algorithm they changed effectively excluded him and "bullying" through censorship
24 likesLeafy wasn't a problem. No one should be above criticism, and leafy made a big move to show that you're misguided to keep pretending that your internet content is a private diary. By uploading, you have now become a publisher and are liable to take the same sort of criticism as TV hosts.
1 likemoral of the story: don't get cursed by mr darkness 666
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Lol his channel is kind of dead now
0 likesI wonder what happens if he blesses me
3 likesIs more like don't git cursed at all
1 likeI thought he lifted the curse on the keemstar video but I guess he changed his mind.
0 likesRoboko lol
0 likesNow it’s true
0 likesBro this videos playlist is epic he’s got the gorillaz The Beach Boys........
0 likesDrink every time you hear LEAFY
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idcanathingknaymore
1 likeBruh it's the curse i tell you
0 likesit's so weird hearing something that you watched and kinda lived through in a more history textbook way.
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Sydney Hess Textbooks are boring. This was more like a super historically accurate movie.
1 likeThis need an update
0 likesSusan Wojewski did it
2 likesRIP MF DOOM
0 likesthis will happen to Dream
0 likes2016 really was the beggining of the end for Youtube
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YouTube died in 2016 but It will stay around forever
12 likesI don’t like YouTube anymore
4 likesAs opposed to early 2010's youtube where everything was a loud Minecraft LP or a creepypasta video? 2016 was a necessary evil.
2 likes2016 might just be the single most significant year in internet culture. Unless somebody can think of a more important year, I'm quite confident it was 2016.
15 likes@Troy McClure then.. Why are you here
0 likesand on Dec. 31, 2017, YouTube died
0 likes@vee Where else is he gonna watch videos? Daliymotion?
0 likesRIP DOOM
1 likeHow tf did u get he bojack horseman theme??
2 likeswell that ship is now fully sunk...
0 likesStill confused about the last 15 seconds
0 likesHow did you manage to keep me entertained with this video for an hour?!
33 likescontent cop
0 likesMORE NASCAR VIDEOS!!!!!
3 likesYo there’s this dude named Lucky on YouTube and he just referenced this video and said he was going to talk about you
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aaaaand he's deleted
0 likes5:46
0 likesYeah, Right
Amazing video! I just want to point out is that Leafy never abandoned his Twitter because he couldn't be bothered with it anymore, he got locked out of it in may last year and hasn't been able to gain access to it ever since. Also I think the theory of youtube killing his channel is extremely likely, however his videos not appearing at the top when you search 'LeafyIshere', is less so YouTube not wanting to show his videos in search results and more so just a result of the youtube algorithm favouring those who upload frequently, rather than people such as Leafy who haven't uploaded since last year. Great video anyways, all the other points were fantastic.
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Epic wtf?!
0 likesI agree with your points, but I would like to also like to point out that this treatment Leafy's channel is receiving is not the same treatment other slow posting channels get. If you look up JonTron's channel, you can still see his channel and all of his videos right on top. This might be because he hasn't gotten any sort of backlash and thus no videos that got viral on him created by other users, but it's still something to consider.
2 likesYeah, I found it kinda odd how he used Star_ as an example, considering Star hasn't uploaded anything to his main channel since May 2016 except for, if I recall correctly, an angry rant about people wanting more TF2 when that game had drained for Star that got removed. Or maybe that one was hosted on his second channel. Doesn't matter. Don't upload in 2 years, don't get a subscriber bump for two years.
0 likesNah leafy is daily dose of the internet
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what.......
0 likes@Jj_sprite the "face reveal" done by an 11 year old isnt conclusive. They dont even sound the same. Im positive its leafy
0 likes@Jj_sprite u dont get it…
0 likesTbh I stopped watching leafy after seeing the content cop, just me?
1 likeRIP DOOM
1 like26:50 I only know the song because of Hans Van Harken
0 likesOh EmpLemon, you never fail to keep my attention for more than 30 minutes at a time.
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hmm yes interesting. Ok you're starting to comment everywhere
0 likeshmm yes interesting. Whatever happened to you?
0 likesHe has been known for commenting way longer than Justin Y.
0 likesLeafyisnothere
1 likelmfao i did not expect hearing all caps
0 likes22:54 #MemeGate
0 likesWeafy has risen
0 likesOmg, I didn't even realize that this was emperor lemon, I used to watch your ytps all the time, then lost interest, glad to see your still doing good
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Burping bob yooo i didn’t realize that until i read your comment. i knew the username from somewhere but i couldn’t put my finger on it!
8 likesDamn you're right. I've definitely seen a few of his videos back when I watched Orpheusftw's KOTH YTP Collabs years ago. That's pretty crazy, thanks for the heads up man.
0 likesquite the antihero
0 likesleafy has returned... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JRH4GzX_8
0 likesCan someone please tell the name of the song at the end?
0 likesLeafyIsHere
0 likesLeafyWasHere
LeafyIsBack
LeafyIsGone
I am honestly speechless...this video was put together so well. You are by far the best documentarian I’ve ever seen. Not gonna lie, I was a fan of leafy because of his unique style and was kinda bummed he left YouTube. But this video made me look at them story from the other side and it was truly a ride. You earned a sub!
34 likesfirst doc video i've heard mf doom in
0 likes"But they never seem to realise however, that about 10,0-
0 likesOW MY EYES WHY THE WHITE DOTS ON BLACK BACKGROUND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Super vilan?
0 likesFilthy Frank is a vilan too?
Leafy was back
0 likesStill come back and re-listen to this youtube epic of a documentary every month or so. Truely one of the best videos I have seen in a long time.
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FlameWear D2DF wtf haha
0 likes@Ezra T what?
0 likesTrue, this video is made with such passion and dedication that feels like a professional documentary
1 likeI was gonna say that Leafy's fans grew up but that's a better theory
0 likes41:41 PISS YELLLOW LEAF
1 likeLeafy was here. And iconic name that hold truth to it
0 likes14:40 i didn’t know you liked MF DOOM
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Hes used other doom songs in his vids before
0 likesIt's crazy to think both him and GradeAunderA essentially carved out their niche at the same time, and eventually their own pathetic hypocrisy and inability to handle criticism tanked both their massive channels around the same time, leaving it a ghost town.
6 likesnow this video is gonna be in noone's recomendation
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Why
0 likes4:13 True
2 likesDoes anyone know what the music at 43:01 is?
0 likesI think Chick-Fil-A and Popeyes would’ve been a better example than the dish sponge burgers of McDonalds and BK. 0/10 won’t watch again
1 likeI miss Leafy.
39 likesWhat a sad ending to this video.
Missing 2016. Missing Leafy.
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Leafy will never be forgotten.
4 likesi didnt even know leafy existed till the content cop aand some comments
0 likesHopefully Dream isn't just Leafy 2 Dream is way cooler
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Dream may be "way cooler", but he's also way less interesting.
0 likesHad to like cuz of the DOOM
0 likesgood music choices
2 likesAs Uncle Ben says, "With great power, comes great responsibility."
78 likesHe had the power, but he wasn't responsible with it.
He could've done great things and create a great community, but instead, he looked down on weaker people and fueled a toxic community that caused harm.
He turned everyone against him and in the end, karma struck down hard.
It's sad to see potential wasted, but unfortunately, that's just how it is with a lot of people.
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H3çTΩR
4 likesThe man wanted a comic book taste of god and figured out too much is too much .
H3çTΩR youtube had no right to censor him
1 likeYes, I did. The video CLEARLY went over how he turned on some of the friends he made on Youtube. And that Youtube thing is still just a theory, no matter how well-backed it is.
0 likesGet a normal job?
0 likesI'm waiting for the xbox mil grau episode hahah
1 likeMinecraft never dies, like Dracula Vlad Tepes!
0 likesDirty harry playing was suprising but fitting.
0 likesAll caps is such a banger
2 likesI like how you explain it like it's actual history.
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technically, everything that happened in the past is actual history. the matter of relevancy to the world or the country it took place in is the only debate had when they record such history. sure, there was the guy who went to the ER with a whole-ass vibrator stuck in his ass, and that was certainly something people remember (it's hard to forget once you hear it just one time), and it is technically historical, i have a lot of doubts that that's going in the history textbooks for the next century considering i'm sure some very drunk Roman might have gone through the same ordeal with worse results. it's probably even documented somewhere like that guy (whose Twitter handle, since this is an important detail, is or was @grawly).
0 likesYoutubers are like supers
0 likesLeafy lore is crazy bro
0 likesmake updated version
0 likesmusic in this one is crazy
0 likes"Back in the day, H3H3 was producing a different type of content."
3204 likesYou mean GOOD content?
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I really miss the pre-podcast h3h3
246 likes@Ijneb1248 >*BLEGH* THAT FUPA THOUGH LMAO LOOK AT HIS BEANIE
217 likes>ethan about to say something insensitive or racist cuz he is that out of touch"
>this episode was brought to you by insert sponsor
>raises eyebrows while reading questions off a preproduced google doc
this mans never was good we were just immature
anyone besides reddit moved on ehtan isnt funny whatsoever
@cabroni peppperonie at least an emoji i more interesting than a solid circle of green
39 likes@cabroni peppperonie >le epic meme arrows
32 likes>on broadcast yourself
Shiggy diggy, anon.
@cabroni peppperonie the fuck are you talking about I've used Reddit daily for a good year and have never seen anything involving H3H3 passing by
0 likesOh wow bro that's really edgy they're content has always been good
0 likesAh yes casual racism
6 likes@erik masterchef how is saying "he is a jew after all" in a negative connotation not racist
6 likesYou mean any content at all
0 likes@erik masterchef fine anti semitism then it doesnt really change anything
9 likesLeafy has returned
0 likes@cabroni peppperonie also funny vape nash joke stolen from filthy frank
4 likes@cabroni peppperonie I miss videos like Vape Nation
1 likeProducing content, period
0 likesGod forbid someone wants to change their content? You people just don’t give up lol.
1 like@Godot not gonna lie, Hila is like in another league compared to Ethan
0 likesIjneb1248 I never saw it in 2016 but it looks better than current stuff he dose
0 likesyou mean content
0 likesI miss the old Ethan, straight from Israel Ethan
1 likeEh, I find some of H3’s old reaction videos to actually be pretty great. I really hated the videos where they kinda just scraped the bottom of the barrel with all of those buzzfeed-level feminist videos (that even actual feminists hated) because they just stated the obvious and didn’t say anything actually tangible about them. I don’t listen to the podcast so idk
4 likes@Charlotte Dawkins Agree. I love (and still love) his "Gamer Gear" episode. The actual gamer gear video he's making fun of is weird enough on its own to where Ethan is really able to mock it and have fun without seeming like he was just reacting.
1 like@cabroni peppperonie imagine using greentext arrows outside of 4chan
2 likes@cabroni peppperonie sure kiddo
0 likesGastly Glow The payday 2 character content tells of their new stuff
0 likesWhat the fuck happened to emps audience man . . .
0 likes@Ijneb1248 yeah, since then they became so arrogant and out of touch... it's a shame, for someone like Ethan who was SO on point with the community become SO out of touch.
0 likesGottem
1 likeDon't you mean A N Y C O N T E N T
0 likes@Legate Lanius we won't go quietly the legion can count on that.
1 likecabroni peppperonie Ethan’s sense of humor is below average but his comedic editing skills are masterful which is why his videos are way more successful than his long form podcast
1 likedeadass
0 likesstill is chief, still is.
1 likeWhy did everyone hating leafy? I did not watch any leafy videos soooo yeah
0 likesEthan was just as bad as Leafy, also Ian was worse than Leafy. But they get passes, right?
0 likesI'm subbing
0 likes4:39 oh for fucks sake
0 likesSearched up Leafy, and the 2nd suggestion besides his channel was your video
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Just checked. On the first page, there were only about four Leafy videos and the first one was the tenth suggestion.
2 likesWhen i checked, this was the FIRST result, other than his channel.
3 likesThat's a good sign, nice to see Emp isn't getting censored quite yet...
5 likes@4:44 is that an ifunny watermark I SEE!!!!?!?!? Also do you still have your account
0 likesdose anybody know the song that plays at 11:48
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Doesn't exist on spotify but I think it's called dust demon or something like that. Just search for "adult swim bumper music" and you should find it.
0 likes20:09 IMPOSTER
0 likesCaptain my captain!
0 likesIt's a really nice touch putting in Bojack Horseman's intro in the beginning of the video. Also, thank god someone finally shed light that Content Cop is not the only thing that killed Leafy
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Jaime Winchester he is a cop, he is not meant to kill.
1 likelol Youtube is a cesspool
0 likesYouTube is fucking broken. Nothing in my comment should have been a censored term, yet the algorithm will censor me. The culprit seems to be the 2015 timeline sentence.
1 likeHey why does the youtube app consider this video music
0 likesplz make follow up
2 likesThroughout this video, with the things you where mentioning, I saw Leafy as despicable, and thought he deserved his fate, after watching the whole thing (which was super well made by the way) I feel sympathetic for the guy, he was like all of us in that, he just wanted a little bit of fame, and was doing anything for it, though his quick rise killed him off just as quick, a shame, especially since (as said at the end of this video) Leafy literally had the power to change YouTube not only forever, but for the better, and he didn't, and he never realized just what he truly was capable of pulling off until the trigger had been pulled.
8 likesJokes on u, minecraft is relevant again
1 likeNGL you’re giving this little shit way too much credit. He knew what he was doing the whole time.
2 likes6:44 is this time soon?
0 likesanyone peep the scene from Planet Earth 2 👀👀🤴 14:50
0 likesdamn this was really engaging
10 likesthis was the first video that i've watched consistently to the end in a while, and i didn't even realise how long it was until it ended
nice job, dude
4:04 dream
1 likeThe cap is back
0 likes4:31 what is the name of the song in the background?
0 likes14:52 Nice call to The Boondocks.
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It's not from the boondocks.
0 likesIt's a song called All Caps by late rapper MF DOOM
0 likesin 2011:
135 likesmaking a famous channel is easy, just do minecraft!
in 2018:
making a famous channel is easy, just do fortnite!
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Yan's Videos well isn't that the true.
3 likesAliA in a nutshell
15 likesThey do show similarities. Who knows, maybe from this recent trend a new leafy may rise from the Fortnite trend. Perhaps Youtube is too self aware or proactive to allow another leafy to rise. Or maybe we just don't know another ingenious way to bypass its content restrictions. Time will tell.
5 likesJack Ryan if that happens I'll be watching and paying attention to see how it all goes down. Maybe it can happen with fortnite or with a new trend that could be on the horizen.(it might just be me but I think that for fortnite is dying now or is beginning to die out do you feel the same.)
2 likesJack Ryan
2 likesThose are the words of an ancient
Eric Johnson
3 likesI feel the same, because for minecraft to decay into childness, it taked 3 years, while fortnite is already decaying into dumbness
Yan's Videos thanks man now i know I'm not alone. The reason why I think this is because I don't see it popping up on my notifications like you used to also the typical views for certain fortnite channels from what I seen are not as high like they were a couple of months ago. But I think that this is kind of fitting because this is how long that pubg lasted during its pic of Fame. So maybe soon a new trend might be on the horizon we will just have to wait and see.
1 likeFortnite holds minimal sustenance and low potential due to a lack of originality and depth. It cant stand on its own without extreme propulsion in its trending status.
2 likesgum phord fortnite could hold more substance if there were more added to it and battle royal is just a mode not a full game so it can't last as long as the Minecraft craze did.
2 likesEric Johnson In adding layers of complexity epic risks losing their casual fan base, where the majority of their profit lies. They know their only riding a trend, but they'll milk every last cent.
2 likesso leafy was like Hitler he made friend then betrayed them and everyone attacked him
0 likesDo a video on star please
2 likes4:45 is this loss?
0 likesPetscop 2
0 likesLeafy is back
0 likesrespect for playing All Caps MF DOOM
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at 14:40 btw
0 likesIkr i was surprised when I heard that
0 likesthis is fucking funny
0 likesIn Leafy's latest twitch livestream someone asked him about this video and he replied "I haven't seen it but I hear it's like a documentary on me? And that sounds sick as fuck." So, he hasn't seen it yet but it sounds like he's heard good things and digs the idea. Today his stream covered Keemstar and H3H3's drama over the past 3 years, using BlowBlax's video as a source. Now that he's starting to give his thoughts on content like that, maybe one day he'll react to this documentary, here's hoping.
303 likesMAJOR EDIT: He then said, "Maybe next stream I'll just watch that."
Comment posted 8/31/2020 for reference.
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You never know he might have already watched it.
7 likes@dr He started watching it last stream but he got interupted by a phone call from Keemstar and immediately just started that. Said that he'll do it next stream.
35 likes@dr he didn't do it in the next stream. instead he just immediately went back into his drama with H3H3 since BlowBlax did a vid covering people's responses to H3H3's bizarre "Disturbing" tweet.
24 likes@ToadySP thanks for updating
11 likes@ToadySP appreciate the updates
7 likesHe said the guy's guess on why he started a youtube channel was completely wrong, but actually sounded a lot better than his real reason. lol.
12 likes@Come On Fhqwhgads Dude I just finished watching his reaction to the vid and like, I think it's fascinating. In some points it was very frustrating, but in other points I think his input was interesting. I think there were some parts where, predictably, he wasn't a fan of them? But overall he was happy with the video and said that he thought it was extremely well made. So, cool shit.
52 likesI think the thing I loved the most was how Leafy's attitude towards the video took drastic shifts throughout. That was fun to see. Sometimes he was like "This video aged incredibly well" at other times he was clearly tilted by some of the things said. Overall I think that seeing Leafy's reaction to the restrospect on his channel, and the opinions he has on it, is bizarrely the best closing to my viewership of Leafy. Wish him luck with his Twitch channel but I think I'm going to move on to something else now.
@ToadySP Nice. Now he is perma banned from Twitch
16 likesOk
0 likesWell
0 likesHi Emp!
193 likesI'm one of what I imagine to be many people commenting about how I'm rewatching this video in wake of Leafy's termination. I really feel the need to say, you predicted so much about what has happened it's kinda scary. You painted a clear picture of YouTube really having it out for Leafy, and I think what happened now was their end goal. They hated that he got popular, they hated that he came back after 3 years and still got views. They probably said to themselves when Leafy stopped uploading "Oh hey, the problem solved itself!" And when he came back, they said, like Yzma in Emperor's New Groove, "HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!!" I can understand his lengthy series of videos on Pokimaine being perceived by YouTube as "creator on creator harassment" especially given the nature of his style, but the fact that all the strikes came at once really lends affirmation to everything you said about YouTube's role in ending Leafy. And I say this as someone who was never a fan of Leafy, who always saw him as just some douche who made stupid roast videos. It's kind of like how I remember feeling when YouTube updated their harassment policy at the end of last year. I felt like it was made to justify everything you talked about that they were doing to Leafy, and setting up the termination end goal. You predicted all of this.
This is one of a number of reasons why I admire the fuck out of you. I can't imagine anyone else (other than maybe The Right Opinion) going into this much detail and painting such a compelling narrative about something like this and it holding up 2 years later. And along with the follow-up to this video among other videos of yours, it's taught me more about YouTube than any other source. I can't say enough how glad I am that a video like this exists. It not only gives me major nostalgia for the last great era of YouTube, but it's expertly edited, well narrated, and teaches so much about how YouTube works and the mentality of youtubers like this. It's one of the most excellent videos on this site, and along with a handful of other videos of yours, cements you as being one of my favorite youtubers.
Hopefully Leafy's termination doesn't set an unfair precedent for opinion-based content on this site where we see more and more channels getting shut down. Hopefully the precedent it does set is people getting shut down that truly deserve it (like a certain onion). Hopefully Leafy can come back either through appealing or starting fresh, and he can exercise some self-reflection and figure out what to do differently and where to go from here. If not, I wish him the best, even as someone that never liked him.
Thank you, Emp
R.I.P. LeafyIsHere
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The thing is, when Leafy came back, after a few shitposting he started uploading videos just talking, and stuff about how he made 100K before youtube, and about economics and whatnot, something I would never expect from someone like Leafy. Ultimately, those were uploaded side by side with his video on Pokimane, which is what ultimately got him banned, but I think it's clear that he was warming up to the idea of just talking what was on his mind, about his business outside of YouTube, and far more interesting than what he was known to upload.
18 likesDamn, respect bro from a leafy fan
5 likesI love how this video became slightly inaccurate for a few months, but has now become greater than it was before.
50 likesI believe his fan base is the reason he got terminated. He came back on the platform with a different attitude. His commentary was drastically different than it was 3 years ago. Every commentary channel has problems with their viewers going from their videos on whomever and attacking that said person. Yes I think leafy has more of these fans than other channels but because they have followed him from his old content and aren’t off springs of his new content. I was happy to see the change in him and his channel. I think it’s unfortunate his fan base made him unable to “exist in the landscape today”
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Remember this name: premier.
1 likeThis aged almost too well. Seeing how he’s been banned.
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I honestly always thought Leafy would just fade away. Then he suddenly emerged again and then was directly murdered in the least subtle way. Perfect ending.
1 likeIts crazy how Leafy again RETURNED and just like that in 3 months Leafy gained more than 690,000 subs. He was very close to 5million.
0 likesThis is one of the most amazing analysis videos I've ever seen. Thanks so much!
5 likesThis theory about leafy being the 1st youtuber that experienced demonetization and youtube taking out leafy covered by the content cop, it makes a lot of sense now that they sniped him in 2020 without a simple strike or warning, they didnt want that guy rise again with his nerfed version of leafyishere(2016), they dont want drama and comentary channels but its funny because the beauty community is much more worse than the comentary one, and it's been proven with the latest events that happened in these 2 last years, but i guess that the beauty community just moves much more money, and everyone knows that's good for youtube lol
9 likesNow Leafy is gone for real this time.
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Only on Youtube. He's on several other platforms.
1 likeNah HES still around, he’s on Twitter constantly and I think he still streams
0 likes>They didn’t want anyone to know they were deliberately interfering with the growth of a YouTube channel
52 likesAged like milk
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they got tired of trying so they just looked for an excuse to bomb it
7 likesEmp lemon really had the whole plot altogether
43 likesYo Emp, an addendum on this would be super cool considering Leafy’s subsequent resurgence and straight up deletion this year. None of us could have predicted how wild 2020 would be, huh?
5 likesWatching this after his return and then get terminated is sad nice to see he went out in a blaze of glory
1 likeYou either die a villain, or you see yourself live long enough to become the hero. This is the leafy i want to remember. RIP 😭
3 likesYouTube just destroyed Leafy's channel for good. They have committed digital Iconoclasm and shouldn't be allowed to forget
4 likesI find this crazy, when this video first came out, I was curious if searching his name actually worked, it didn't, his name never showed up, once this video was a few weeks old I tried it again, and all of a sudden, it worked, almost to directly counter this videos evidence.
1 likeBut now, once leafy came back, YouTube completely deleted his channel
5:45 Watching this video now reminds me of how bizarre Minecraft's reputation is; Minecraft started out as the biggest game ever, but at the time of this video's upload, it was really only played by little kids for years, as everyone else moved on and saw it as a joke, only for it to all go full circle when Minecraft was revived just a year later.
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when people say things age like fine wine, this video aged like the stuff right out of zeus’s cup.
0 likesWith the announcement of Leafy's ban, I decided to come back and watch my favorite documentary on him.
3 likesThis has never been as true. It’s 2020. All hope is gone.
6 likesNow his entire channel and the content cop are both gone. YouTube is killing itself.
29 likesY’all talking about how this aged badly. Heh. Look how the tables turned...
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You are goddamn right
6 likesYouTube: yep.
0 likesHe didn't deserve it tho
7 likes@Mike he kinda did
7 likes@Storm_Fling no he didn't
6 likes@Mercury Don’t you think it’s kind of weird? Big tech just wants to take over the world.
0 likesso after this video leafy not only managed to come back, but was terminated a short while ago. and all of that after he was deemed dead for years. damn
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R.I.P. LeafyIsHere 2.0
2 likes30/3/2020 - 22/8/2020
R.I.P LeafyIsHere 2012-2020
3 likes2017: Leafy left YouTube as a villain.
648 likes2020: Returned as a hero and got terminated.
At least he redeemed himself.
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You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become a hero
129 likesThe Leafy anime redemption arc is the greatest anime redemption arc
83 likes"hero"
110 likesyeah ok
You need new hero's ngl
36 likesWhat are you talking about dude how did he redeem himself
27 likes@Matt Thompson even as an edgy kid I couldn't stand him because he legit isn't funny. I was more of a filthy Frank kid
45 likes@Maxwell Thomas he was after my time, but yeah I think I'd have found him fucking irritating even when I hadn't ruined 4chan for myself with the realisation that people weren't being ironic
35 likesHe truly did a Vegeta
4 likesLeafy got banned because he made 13 videos making fun of pokimane. I don't know what leafy you were watching, calling him a hero is far off. He died with a bunch of obsessed toxic sheep for a fanbase surrounding a mountain of shitty, unfunny content, with a bunch of mediocre at best attempts to make fun of people sprinkled in.
48 likes@Thrasher146 correction. he made 13 with her as clickbait, in which he proceeded to talk about stocks and maybe mention the woman herself in passing but only made fun of her fans
24 likesComing back doesn't automatically mean redemption
5 likesWhat happened? Did leafy get popular again?
1 like@行屍走肉 he started making videos again in like mid-early 2020, he sorta redeemed himself in that he started beating down on big youtubers and stuff rather than kids, then youtube finally thunked him out one last time. He’s still chilling on Twitter tho lol
10 likes@Quixotes Not all heroes are simps.
0 likesExhibit A: Goku
@Thrasher146 Bro this is exactly the problem, people are spreading misinformation like wildfire. Leafy made 13 videos on pokimane and only 3 or 4 were actually about the drama surrounding her. The other 10 were about stocks, debt and life advice. Leafy didn't do anything to get permabanned without warning. Dont present things as fact if you dont know what you're talking about
13 likesHe was always the hero
1 like@Matt Thompson I have to ask, have actually watched his newer content? You sound like you are hating on him due to his reputation rather than his actual new content.
3 likesLeafy changed dude. He mellowed out a ton over the years and his 13 or so videos on Poki? 3 of them were about her. The rest was clickbait where he talks about life advice, debt, and his business out of youtube. Then youtube came in and fcking smited him out of the sky.
Eh, don't count on it.
0 likes@I do not know you "and his 13 or so videos on Poki? 3 of them were about her" - Well, that's enough for a channel termination and to prove he was still a moron. Also, if someone used my face in 13 of their videos as clickbait, I'd definitely consider that harassment.
1 likeI don't see how he came back as a hero. All he did whenever he was critized say "yeah I'm a bad person so what" that's not what a hero says lmao
4 likesWe could use a part 2 because he came back and now he got terminated by the YouTube termination cops
3 likesYou were right. Leafy‘s channel just got executed by YouTube.
6 likesLeafy: comes back after years of silence
2 likesEveryone: LOOK! THE KING HAS RETURNED!
Youtube: sorry kids, but its nothing personal.
Terminates leafy's account
Everyone: AH FOR FUCKS SAKE
Guess he couldn’t survive the current climate
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YEEEEEEEAH
0 likes2020: LEAFY IS FUCKING DEAD
4 likesWe really need a followup video after all that happened
2 likesCan't wait for the sequel: Leafy Got Banned
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LeafyWasTerminated
0 likesThis needs a part 2
5 likesOh fuck his theory was correct
6 likesAlso Keemstar spiked up because he's never made any allusions to being a good person, Youtube couldn't kill Keem if they tried, if they perma banned him, he'd just setup shop elsewhere, what he does fills a vaccuum that everyone else kinda blows at filling, even still.
2 likesYou can criticize him, but it doesn't impact his reputation at all, because it's just "Yeah? And?" ultimately, he really only dipped down because of subscriber loyalty being a thing unfortunately.
imagine if internet historian and emp lemon had a collab...
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They did an In The Field episode about YTP but agreed. If they like, combined their resources to create a super documentary on something, that would be awesome.
0 likesYouTube proves that by terminating his channel 😭 #freeleafy
4 likesNow with the termination...
1 likeLeafy truly was here.
He came back and then immediately got his account terminated lol
11 likesAnd now he really IS gone. Forever.
3 likesLeafy was here... he was terminated a few hours ago...
3 likesI swear all of these reaction Youtubers have no idea what “satire” and “parody” actually mean
0 likesAnd now he got terminated.
9 likesI would love to see a sequel to the video made about the landscape today
1 likeRewatching this with the Perspective of the “future” it’s a very interesting video to revisit and the leafy comeback and subsequent ban puts this vid in a new interesting light
2 likesWho’s here after Leafy got terminated
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😔 F
2 likesF
1 likeYea smh
0 likeswHoS hErE aFtEr lEaFy gOt tErMinATed
5 likesWow, no one cares if they are watching after he got terminated.
3 likesAhh yes this is when we can open the bottle on the leafy aged wine 🍷 cheers!
1 likeRight now, that title is more true then ever.
38 likesSeems like MrBlackDarkness666’s curse finally came to fruition after over 4 years.
5 likesWell. Looks like leafy can't survive in today's climate.
4 likesThat burger king saying was actually a really poignant metaphor
0 likesHoly shit
And now you’re right again, he got Alex Jones’s treatment.
3 likesJust wanted to say again that ending is so awesome
1 likeWho is here after leafy got banned in YouTube.
30 likesAnd Leafy was here for the second time.
11 likesLeafyishere
8 likesLeafywashere
Leafyishere again
Leafywashere again
How does Emp feel now that Leafy is actually deleted? The Tier 3 simps got to him
8 likes2 years later and the theory is true
2 likesThis needs to be updated
3 likesIndeed, he was
2 likesAlso Leafy wasn't responsible for the actions of his fans, he really wasn't and isn't. If you need to tell people not to do something in the first place, they were already going to do it to begin with.
5 likesThis idea is one that asserts that someone loses all individuality the moment they start getting popular, that, because a ton of people idolize and adore them, something they chose to do to begin with, said person no longer can do certain things, this being a rule that applies only to the popular due to the absolute myth that the popular people have to be role models.
You could say "Oh well, where do we get them" but i'll argue that if you need other people as role models, you need to take a look inward and ask yourself why you can't think for yourself, it's exactly that simple, though that's a take people will personally take offense to, or find personal disagreement with.
At the end of the day, everyone is capable of self-determination, many just opt to hand that responsibility arbitrarily to other people, which is the root cause of outrage culture, this idea that you can't control yourself, and so others must change for your positive well being to be ensured.
I will say though, it ABSOLUTELY was still fucked up, his fans really should've thought more than two seconds before attacking people because of a video, even when i was 12, i was a better person, age is no excuse for bad behavior as 2016-now has taught us that age has absolutely nothing to do with maturity, what matters is opportunity for growth, and too many choose to ignore those opportunities.
I know this is a pretty old video and with Leafy's return, he's proven himself more so as a rather different person than he used to be, so the arguments in this vid have probably changed in your mind, or at least you wouldn't use some of them on him today.
I just wanted to mention this, it's a conclusion I've recently made thanks to Leafy's termination drama and who knows, maybe you'll get some value out of this, whoever reads this, all i want to say is, Thank you, and i hope you have a nice day.
21:30
2 likes...this is precisely why Leafy was terminated
Leafy’s rise and downfall is a remake of the Breaking Bad franchise where the protagonist became a innocent person but then turns into a villain and gets consumed by greediness and as a result of it, turns his friends into his enemies or a distant relative, and at the end is defeated and thus remembered as a legendary figure
1 likeMrBlackDarkness666 never lifted the curse we need to find him ASAP.
46 likesThis aged like fine wine (leafy is banned)
2 likesReturned like fucking Napoleon from Elba for a hundred days
3 likesAnd now this video is relevant again.
7 likesThe title is now more accurate than ever
7 likes10 million dollars. 7 years after school. if that isn't a success story. that is definitely a legendary way to go. he doesn't have to work ever again. if he invests it right or could just lay around and retire early. 100,000 for 100 years that's not half bad.
1 likeEven after making a successful comeback Leafy was still stopped from getting 5M subs 😢 #FreeLeafy
4 likesLeafy literally just got banned
6 likes6:45 Man, This just wants me to know more about the STAR_ Story...
1 likeThis was just now recommended to me... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
2 likesGonna need a sequel chief
1 likewell captain sparkelz was sorta brought back with the whole aw man creeper
2 likesBRUH he literally got terminated
3 likesHe is banned again...
8 likesLeafy reacted to this on his Twitch, new Leafy era :)
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This aged like milk
4 likesAbout that....
1 like@Whiplash Athetos Yeah...
1 likeI love how YouTube put this on recommendations, they know
3 likesthis video is now the only remaining archive of leafy
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No there a few archived leafy vids
0 likesSo Leafy was here.... sad times.. makes me wonder who's next for the suspention.
0 likesLeafy was here.
5 likesThey did it...They fucking erased him from YouTube. The cowards.
1 likeHere after Leafy's channel got terminated lol
3 likesHey, this video is actually relevant again
7 likesLeafyIsOfficiallyGone - August 21, 2020
4 likes"If you look on his channel today"
3 likesmfw he WAS here twice
4 likes‘leafy was here’ 😭😭💔 NOO
5 likesYoutube did rigth. Get those furries and sonic fans at bay, in 4chan or guantanamo.
1 likeits definitely youtube who killed leafy
1 likeAs soon as he returned he left almost immediately, (Yes, I know he has been terminated) is the MrBlackDarkness666’s curse?
0 likesRIP LEAFY
3 likesWell he’s definitely not here anymore
1 likeTitle checks out now
15 likesAs of 21/08/2020 we all can say it.
1 likeLeafy
iswas hereAnd he is now gone again 😢
1 likeWell StoryFire gonna get way more popular now since leafy is on StoryFire now
3 likesAnd Leafy died twice now.
2 likesWe miss you Leafy. What is dead may never die.
0 likesHissssssssss.
Leafy Was Here pt.2: Electric Boogaloo when?
1 likeWell well, the rise and fall, and rise and fall again... banned huh... it was a good run
2 likesLeafy finally watched this on twitch
0 likesChapter XII: LeafyIsTerminated
5 likesI’m waiting for the sequel
0 likesLeafy the Terrible has been slain by Lord Montizon
5 likesReally pisses me off leafy didn’t finish the vid
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It's kind of fitting though.
1 likeWe need a part two now
2 likes48:53 nah,that time was shit.I come to youtube for actual content,not sellouts fighting with each other online
2 likesLeafy reminds me of tony montana for some reason...
1 likeTurns out he played Minecraft to promote his server, not to become popular.
6 likes& boy were you wrong about Minecraft not becoming popular again.
Who else returned here due to Leafy's termination?
1 likeandddd.... leafy is perma banned now lol 🤣
1 likeCHAPTER XII - LeafyIsBanned
3 likesCHAPTER XIII - WhoIsLeafy
Who is here after Leafy got terminated?
3 likesLEAFY WAS BANNED FROM YT
1 likeDamn, what a throwback. I subbed to him when he was just transitioning from that short "storytime" phase he had to the cringeroasting stuff. It was all great fun, when you said you had to admit he was very entertaining at the time, I feel you so hard. What can I say, it was perfect for my edgy teenage self. I stuck with him through the H3 stuff, and also the Content cop, although I really felt Idubbz had him by the balls. I think I stopped watching Leafy about a month later, not because of CC, but because he had become stale and uninteresting.
6 likesI do still like his clones today though, Pyro really turned it around and he's better than ever now imo. Even NFKRZ is still around kinda.
Anyways, good video, really took me baack!
he got sniped by YouTube now.
1 likeThis is my favourite video on YouTube
0 likesaged like fine wine
1 likeaged like fine wine
1 likeI guess Leafy was on a downward spiral and then youtube stopped it.
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Not really he was about to hit 5 million lol
1 likeInterestingly he gained +690k subs in just 3-4 months lol
1 likeWho's here after the ban?
3 likesF in the chat for Leafy
6 likesLeafy was truly here now.
5 likesYou were right.
0 likesLove the MF DOOM beat out of nowheee
1 likenow he’s fully gone
5 likesanyone else here after his channel was deleted
2 likesR.I.P Leafys Channel, Cause Of Death - Termination
0 likesLeafy is watching this on his Twitch channel right now.
0 likes32:20 lol that was my life
0 likesLeafy didn't in the survive current climate
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Yep.
0 likesCant wait for the next vid about leafyisgone
2 likesThe ship...... has finally Sunk........
1 likeanybody here after leafy got terminated
3 likesHere after Leafy’s channel got terminated rip
1 likeHe got terminated
2 likesWell. This video is relevant again. RIP Leafy
0 likesThis is what happens to a gangsta that doesn't pay his taxes
0 likeshighkey vibes with that bojack music
1 likeAlso (sorry for comment spam) I legit have never gotten Leafy vids in my recommended after 2016, i mean to be fair i totally won't now that they gassed him, but you know what i mean
0 likesVideo idea: YT geographic GradeAUnderA
1 likeLeafy won't be returning
1 likeGone all the videos of Leafy.
12:25 rip hair cake
1 likeI clicked on this thinking that it was a current video
0 likesGuess who’s back boys!
0 likesThis is revelant again since Leafy channel got terminated.
1 likeRip leaf man
0 likesNow leafy really was here
0 likesWhos here after leafy getting terminated
1 likeThis is actually...I'm at a loss for words. It's fucking fantastic, I loved every bit of it. You need his power.
7 likesWow. Serious one of the best things I’ve ever seen on this website. So comprehensive and insanely well done. I remember 2016 well, I was a massive fan of the commentary community and this was a major trip down memory lane. I am kinda nostalgic for that year. I wasn’t a reptilian per se (I was more of a diehard Pyro fan at the time) but I still watched my fair share of Leafy and he had a place. I miss his dumb fake giveaway jokes at the end of videos.
6 likesI remember a lot of this shit unfolding back when I was in 6th grade lol
45 likesIn one of my weeks of summer camp, everyone was making Keemstar jokes.
I also remember the iDubbbz content cop at the beginning of 7th grade
Ah the nostalgia
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Edit: More like the summer and beginning of 7th as I learned about Leafy in like spring 2016
0 likesI was a fan of his until he got exposed
The Drowzee Fella exactly same with me
0 likesI like Hypno better than Alakazam.
1 likeAnd I agree with your comment. The nostalgia is real...
Same, that was LITCHRALLY what me and my friends talked about a lot of the time.
1 likeFuck you're young. Wait til you get to your 30s like me and nostalgia will hit you in the face like a tonne of bricks.
0 likesSame dude
0 likesEdit 2: I think I remember I stayed a little longer
0 likesI think I found out about a month or 2 later somehow
Obligatory 'LeafyIsTerminated' comment
3 likesHe said this again rip
1 likeI think it was the curse.
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Holy Horse You're RIGHT!!!
2 likesI believe that it is. I can by personal experience say that magic is absolutely real.
25 likesYep
0 likesi was thinking about the curse also when the time it happened O-O
1 likeCrap, can someone tell me what the curse is, or am I just autistic?
0 likesWait, nevermind, just got past the 21 minute mark, I really am autistic
5 likesYea leafys “fate” is WAY to ironic for this to be another dead channel. This is straight up judgement for his sins my dude
3 likesHoly Horse it's too freaky of a coincidence to be an implausible outcome
1 likeit makes enough sence to me tbhnglfam
0 likesSame
0 likesIt WAS the curse LMAOOOO
0 likesMR DARK LOST THAT BATTLE, LEAFY ENDED UP LOSING THE WAR.
2 likesSame
0 likesHoly Horse What a horrible night to have a curse.
0 likesthe two who likes who ruined 666, please undo them or you'll be cursed
0 likesSo curses dont last that long? Good to know.
0 likesAfter watching this...I wonder what would happen now if he came back with a clean slate and created less toxic content.
7 likesWould youtube (the people in charge of it) and his old friends still suppress him?
Would he gain popularity again or keep losing it?
Leafy, if you're out there, and you're somehow reading this, I think it would be worth a try. Humans have a natural instinct to forgive, given the right amount of time to do so.
Of course, leafy was patient 0 of the demonetization scheme
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To bad he didn't get the Alex Mercer treatment
1 likePapa frank....
1 like@Kraze Does Games Mercer...the family that backed Trump?
0 likes@Tom Hill No Alex Mercer from Prototype, I hope you are fucking with me
0 likesChapter XIII: Leafyisgone II
0 likesI have to admit Emp, your style of commentaries and fact based evidence are what I look for in a good video. I really appreciate your take on things from the INSIDE, mostly bc you've been here longer than any of us. I just want to thank you, and can't wait for more!
6 likesI'd say that this should be a TV series but that wouldn't be much of a compliment
5 likesWe need a p2 yesterday
1 likeleafy: every thing is good and well
32 likesyoutube: snaps
leafy: disintegrate into youtube demonetization sighs
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BREAKING NEWS: Idubbbz has all the Drama Stones!
3 likesPerfectly balanced, as all things should be.
2 likesNow the title is literal
0 likesThey wanted to stop Leafy but they are ok with Jake Paul and Logan Paul. I'm done.
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TheProDude cause the Paul's fan base are a bunch of little kids, who won't die anytime soon. and leafy was a meme with a bunch of edgy followers... then he meme died and the followers moved on
28 likesTheProDude the Paul's are a cash cow, they are making YouTube tons of money. so naturally they are gonna go with the money. it's scummy but ya cant blame youtube, who wouldn't wanna make a ton of money
9 likesEmpLemon's theory is that people like the Paul bros and RiceCum paint a picture of wealth and glory and that's what YouTube wants to depict the website as, so as to appeal more to viewers. Leafy was some bum in a room with mediocre equipment who didn't sell a rich lifestyle full of bitches, hoes, and supercars. He didn't fit the mold YouTube wants to sell.
8 likesi only stopped watching lefe cuz he stopped releasing content. i liked his style of ranting and found a lot of videos funny and saw many small channels. shame the more toxic fans bombarded all of them and this shit happened. the pauls are popular because of dumb trend fueled kids and the people coming for the cringe
1 likeTheProDude the Pauls are dogs on leash. Despite their 'maverick' branding, they will bend over to media pressure, and are easily controlled like a puppet.
0 likesLeafy wasn't as alerted as Pewdiepie, the latter was very aware of attempts to knock him off the charts, the former, never did.
TheProDude it doesn’t make sense at all
0 likesI never thought I'd make one of those "Who's watching this in [current year] comments but man...
8 likesThis felt like a Nazi documentary
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Big Zed it is
0 likesThis was an extremely well done documentary.
11 likesThere's actually a lot to learn from leafy's mistakes.
Thanks!
I'm surprised internet historian wasn't in this video, the video is great all the same it just seemed like something he'd look into. Thanks for the top kek content lemon boi
13 likesThis is one of the hidden gems in the crown of YouTube good content
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Yeet
0 likesI would love to see leafy survive in today's climate.. you can't even swear bro.
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I mean ethan was kinda right, youtube already tried to fuck leafster over.
23 likesHe didn't, just got banned
36 likesI would love to see Leafy get terminated
19 likes-poki's tier 3 subs
Lol he got banned Ethan was right
1 like@Affordable Window Cleaning You see? Ethan was right, Leafy couldn't survive in this current youtube climate.
21 likesTo start with, I know that this is a civil comment section and 90% of the time errs on the side of reason and (un)common decency. I'm not being angry, vindictive, or trying to say "YOU'RE WRONG!"
4 likesThat being said, I want to know how exactly you reached the conclusion that you're not allowed to swear anymore on Youtube. I know dozens of examples from recent videos that contradict this hypothesis. And no, Youtube's "Family Friendly" policy does not count, seeing as how its enforcement is about as tight as the arguments from that one guy who tried to brand me as a pedophile over cartoon horses.
@Lazzle Dazzle
3 likesI would also like to see h3h3 survive in this climate.
@Chris Bartek Well he hasn't gotten banned yet, unlike leafy, so I'd say he is doing pretty well.
5 likes@Lazzle Dazzle cough cough Socialblade cough cough
0 likes@Chris Bartek Ok, what are you trying to say, I wouldn't say Ethan's doing amazing, but he certainly did better on youtube than leafy.
7 likes@Lazzle Dazzle Perhaps...
1 likeBut he's certainly doing worse than just about every other youtuber in the Commentary Community lol
@Chris Bartek We'll see. Promote is most likely a strong word. Especially considering I've heard nothing of this from the drama community hivemind which despises ethan, you are damn near certainly stretching the truth.
8 likes@Chris Bartek I wouldn't really call him a commentary youtube at this point, he is a podcast host, who occasionally makes videos.
3 likes@Lazzle Dazzle
0 likesYour silence is deafening.
@Lazzle Dazzle
1 likeHe didn't interview a scumbag, he replatformed him and legitimatized his delusions.
Idk if h3's dad told him "Don't fight fire with fire."
@Chris Bartek I'm not here to defend ethan mate. I'm just saying that he hasn't been banned off the platform. That is literally all I'm saying mate. There is really nothing else for you to add her.
5 likes@Lazzle Dazzle "Your silence is deafening." hahahaha. I think this guy is just trying to blame you for his tinnitus. You can't argue with stupid. Cheers
1 likeYou can definitely swear bro
1 like@John Rollercoaster Jr. just like leafy though, if they don’t like you, they’ll use swearing as a reason to demonetize your videos.
0 likesWell leafy is now gone
1 likeIm totally with you on that conspiracy. The only reason why is the fact they wouldn't come out with the truth and when it came out they knew what was going on and it wasn't just a glitch and the whole blacklisted system was found they had too fix it so people wouldn't start something they couldn't win.. do you know what would happen if you went too leafy with this video? He would sue.. because they made him go under. If you did the same to a company they would go bankrupt.. just remember a monopoly is a bad thing
11 likesLEAFY IS GONE
3 likesWhile I definitely do see your point in how youtube has been censoring "unwanted" videos and may have helped in the death of Leafy, I think that the Content Cop on Leafy did have a massive impact because of the audience overlap between idubbbz and Leafy, as both channels at the time appealed to the "edgy teen" demographic and I can speak from experience as I was a part of both of their fanbases and only began to realize Leafy's more negative aspects after seeing the Content Cop.
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chiken YouTube always been manipulative as fuck. They instantly took down the Asian Jake Paul content cop but when they realised it was about RiceGum (Rice is similar to Leafy for roasting) then the video came back up. The ElsaGate problems has been there for years in the commentary community but after like 2 years when it got so big that big YouTubers talked about it s YouTube got so much hate that they started losing money over these creepy Elsegate channels so they took the channels down. Before Elsagate there was this chain of pedofilia group that made a chain of borderline child pr0n by making playlists called young girls dancing (lots of the videos were not even dancing videos) and also naming videos "Webcam video from 02/11/11" something like that and people reported it to YouTube for so long and they never did something about it because these pedos gave these borderline pr0n videos lots of views and that means lots of money for YouTube. Once a big YouTuber adressed it, idk which one I think H3H3. More people started hating youtube for it and again they started losing money and guess what, the pedo videos are gone. There is way more corrupt shit YouTube does, they are one big propaganda.
4 likesLeafyisHere?
1 likeLeafy Was Here
Although I was never a leafy fan (didn't even hear of him till after he left YouTube), I'm glad in a way that he didn't try and adapt. He was who he was. In an era when so many people bend to the wishes of society, I think the world needs more individuals who will just be the person they choose to be, whether or not it leads to a successful life in the eyes of others.
61 likesEmp is a fucking prophet
0 likes1 Ad on an hour long video? +respect
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0 ads for me, adblock baby
28 likes@Augusto Pinochet Adblock is the way to go, just give to the patreon of good channels and save yourself 10 minutes a day I say
21 likes2
1 like@Matthew Welch cool story bro
11 likesEmp gets no cash off this anyway lol.. its claimed
2 likesImagine how amazing it would've been if leafy commented on this video and said something ambiguous like "hiss?" Or " I'm sorry"
1 like@Ebiegberi Adonkie like what
0 likes@Ebiegberi Adonkie what's that suppose to mean?
0 likes2 ads for me
0 likesI have YouTube Premium lmao
0 likesThe finest documentary on The Great Drama War. Those were indeed dark days. But darker days are ahead. And all will be lost.
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2016's drama was like youtube world war 1. and now the paul brothers and douchetubers make up youtube world war 2.
6 likesWhat do you know that we don't
1 like@August Mathewson ooga booga
0 likesI will remmember that for the 2020 election.
0 likesYeah now we have Musically and Vine wash-ups
0 likesThere will be an endtimes, the World Yhat Was will be destroyed, but from the ashes... THE AGE OF SIGMAR SHALL BEGIN!!!
0 likesYou weren't kidding about that tin foil hat. That little tangent you went off about why leafy was losing subs was complete bullshit.
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Explain your logic for how he was losing subs and views before content cop?
1 like"Any logical defence Leafy could have made didn't matter, because he had a weird chin."
399 likesJust sums the whole content cop/content deputy up really.
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you have to remember Ian purposely made the content cop on leafy like a leafy video. The way he was just really bullying people and repeating the same shit. The content cop on leafy was almost like a Leafy parody video. But a lot better.
83 likesI wouldn't call it bullying for various reasons. 1) You can just turn off your phone or PC. So it's a style of "bullying" that requires you to either be terminally stupid, or so vain you can't walk away. Especially with block functions. 2) He did have a disclaimer telling people not to do that, but it's not like he was mind controlling them. They were going to do it regardless of what he said. That's on them, not him. 3) Leafy in a way gave rise to the era that NOTHING was beyond criticism, no matter what or who it is. This is a glorious thing other YouTubers have taken the torch. 4) If the worst thing in your life is someone talking about your malformed chin, you're in a golden place and should be fucking happy that you're not in a worse state. All that said, the content cop was good. I didn't stop watching leafy though, I had to go out of my way to find his videos, and I did. Edgy teenage time and all that. I would happily watch leafy videos if he returned tbh. I'm a toxic reptile with no fucking shame.
15 likesdude what you're saying is dumb.
28 likes1) it's still bullying. you can spin it all you want. you can try to deflect it all you want. But it will always be bullying. someone shouldn't have to purposely go away to not get bullied. "ohhh if you're getting bullied in school, just dont go to school." or "ohh you dont want to get kicked when going to the park trying to play like everybody. Just don't go to there." It's a ridiculous argument and leafy will always be a bully. And a cyber bully to be specific.
2) you're right. leafy couldn't control his fans. and his cancerous fans were gonna do it anyways. But that's what you get when you create a cancerous community with very very toxic behaviour. Leafy's videos almost always had a very toxic edgy feel to it. And this attracted toxic people.
3) Leafy didn't start this BY FAR. there were dozens if not hundreds of youtube personalities exactly like that. Even h3h3 was waaaay ahead of that. Also i can't really call leafy's videos critical. because most of the time leafy just called someone a name. I don't call his video on tommy(the autistic guy) very "critical". It just, again, cyber bullying calling someone names.
4) you REALLY think ian made fun of leafy's chin, in a very very repeating manner, because he couldn't think of other things? fucking lol.
like i said in my previous comment. Ian was making fun of leafy's video style. The repeating of dumb shit trying to make fun of someone. You're forgetting how Ian made fun of how clearly insecure and how much of a bitch leafy was. Which is really ironic for a bully.
Ian didn't try criticize all his cancerous content(which he still did) because everyone already did so.
like ian said "today we get to bully leafy".
@Neiasaurus Creations bully leafy
0 likes@Neiasaurus Creations
10 likes>You can just turn off your phone or PC. So it's a style of "bullying" that requires you to either be terminally stupid, or so vain you can't walk away.
As a wise man once put it long ago, "Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha"
although ian's points were still too good for leafy to respond to
0 likes'Today is the day we get to BULLY LEAFY'
1 like-rubadubudub, about two minutes and twenty seconds into the content cop
Memories
0 likesSubbed to Leafy around his 200k mark, after being "recruited" into the reptilian brotherhood as a cringey 14 year old. Looking back I remember missing a lot of his videos near the end because YouTube never notified me, and eventually I lost interest because checking his channel all the time became a chore, it having little to do with content cop. Your analysis definitely checks out. A very interesting watch, definitely brings me back
9 likesI miss the dank era of YouTube, allowed to swear and do edgy things. Now, because of demonetisation, it's all capitalist manufactured Douchetubers; all because bowl cut mothers got triggered.
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Cheeki Breeki There’s literally a separate app called youtube kids I don’t get it at all
117 likesSame.
2 likesDon't call censorship capitalism. That's an oxymoron.
6 likesAnd now they have 2 ads instead of 1
3 likesthe dank era was one of the best for the internet itself. but it does due to one 7 year old in 2016 telling his mom what a meme was. there will never EVER be another era, time, or age on the internet like it.
12 likes*died
0 likesWhat an intesting and Very Specific way to put it....which means it's likely wrong
0 likes@Brat Bud Because the concept of capitalism is a free market with no intervention. Censorship is an intervention that directly interferes with said free market.
8 likes@the gas man No idea who you're talking about or how it's relevant.
0 likes@the gas man Pretty sure that wasn't a joke played for a meme. Seems like a pretty genuine comment.
1 likeAlso, calling your opposition names will never win you an argument. But don't take my word for it.
@Anonymous AJ That's not capitalism, as long as the means of production are dedicated to make profit and are not owned by the state it is capitalism, censorship can still happen
4 likes@youtubə Regulated capitalism is an insult to the word capitalism.
3 likes@Anonymous AJ yeah, but that's reality. In reality capitalism is exploiting and slaving billions (not just for work, but to buy their products) and pretty much killing the Earth
3 likesOddly political
0 likesAs vapid as they were, I still miss all those MLG videos from the 2014-2015 era. Those were the days..
0 likeswelcome to jewtube
0 likes@bdjsjshhehehd The funny thing is that the YT Kids app gets away with worse content then vanilla YT.
3 likes@Comrade Hartliss Regulated capitalism is not pure capitalism. Get the fuck out of my notifications.
2 likeshey, I had that exact profile picture as you some time ago.
0 likes@The KYLE Projekt Literally no one was praising communism
0 likesI would to back 2016 and how they work back then.
0 likesDerovolk also fell to Youtube leftism.
0 likesIt was capitalist before
0 likesYou could honestly make a feature-length documentary about YouTube in 2016. Although you actually covered a decent chunk of it in this video, it's still quite intriguing how so much in the way of drama and commentary channels happened in a relatively short amount of time.
17 likesdamn this all feels like it was decades ago... but all of this happened like 2-3 years ago! And i was there!
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BoostedDoge me too
2 likesYea, I was there too.
1 likeAnd now LeafyIsBanned
0 likesLeafy reminds me of the mongolian empire, spreading fast and far but ultimitely expanding too far, and eventually collapsing. Or even a star that got so big it eventually collapsed into a black hole
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Adam the thing is the Mongolian Empire fell because Ghengis Khan did the mistake to give 1 piece to each of his sons
0 likesFair enough. But i still like my analogy
0 likesThis video made me realise how much things have changed in these few years...
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Tactic right? I could've sworn this stuff was ancient news, but it was only 2 years ago?! Crazy
11 likesChase SaysHi Conversely, to me it feels like it all happened yesterday. 2017 just feels like it didn't happen. Squeezing an entire year into what feels like an hour's worth of memory. It's so surreal and odd.
0 likes4:40 fucking loss
1 likeI had like 15 minutes of free time so I decided that I will look at some youtube videos..
120 likesI click on this one... and after 5 minutes i accidentally press space on my keyboard which leads to the video to pause.
And I see that I've been watching for 40 minutes.
And I got fired.
Thanks EmpLemon.
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r/toogoodofadesign? big oof
1 liker/thathappened
6 likesAnd everyone clapped
6 likesHorst King wait fr?
0 likes9
1 like"Leafy is on a downward spiral"
56 likesLeafy's entire YouTube channel has been a downward spiral.
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Fletcher Reed for every rise of an empire there is a fall
1 likeHe’s watching this rn 😳
2 likesOne of the most legitimately entertaining content creators on the site. I don’t know how emp is still at under 300K. YouTube poops carry an unfortunate stigma. This turns off some viewers I believe, combined with the YouTube censorship of many of Emps videos through the demonization algorithm works against emp. Only channels that are extremely normie friendly can explode on YouTube anymore. No more filthy franks or idubbz will emerge naturally. Hopefully emp can buck this trend this new content is extremely promising.
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Peter Z what stigma?
0 likesHe is still under 300k because his content is good and good content doesn't get promoted on this site.
0 likesThis is actually awesome. Your editing, storytelling, and everything is actually incredible.
12 likesPermaBan Rip ☠️
0 likesLISTEN BRO. I DONT KNOW IF YOUR GONNA SEE THIS COMMENT. BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST AND WELL MADE YOUTUBE VIDEOS I HAVE EVERY WATCHED. LIKE DEADASS. I WASNT EXPECTING TO WATCH A 50 MIN VIDEO BUT I DID THIS WAS 10/10.
21 likesI feel like the further it gets in history, the more YouTube will just seem like a weird place and a really weird time. It's definitely the start of another big era in human history, even if it's hard to see what the era is yet. But along the way, I'll be fucked if it isn't the strangest human circus I've ever seen
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The internet itself is an era in history
13 likesI think part of it was Leafy's viewers being tired of his negative content, the content cop was just enough to put people into action.
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I can actually attest to that. I started watching Leafy around the Jacob Satorious' Sweatshirt video. I started to get board of his videos around the fourth Keem rant, but didn't completely realize it until the content cop rage. I guess I was a bandwagoner, which I regret in retrospect, but Leafy's public opinion definitely was affected by Content Cop. I now greatly miss that period in YouTube, and it sucks to no we aren't ever getting anything like that back.
25 likesSlurpwis I also agree. I watched his content regularly, and overtime I started to find it bland and kinda repetitive. Finally I saw the content cop and stopped watching.
9 likesHonestly i never took IDubbbz seriously since hes just a big meme im still subcribed to Leafy but nothing has been uploaded lately
4 likesI binge watch his old videos almost every week, I honestly loved watching him rip apart cancerous content on YouTube and I still have the bell turned on hoping for a miracle
3 likesthe content cop took advantage of leafys audience, leafys audience attacked leafy becouse it became the cool thing to do.
1 likeSlurpwis I honestly think it was Leady’s own fault, building a toxic audience that are so vicious they will attack and destroy anyone, so when leafy showed weakness in the face of idubbbz, they turned on him and ate him alive, but the brain dead fans stayed behind, who you can still see pining and screaming for him on his channel today.
3 likesAs a prior leafy fan I think that was not even close to right...
0 likes@Phrax yeah but everyone already knew how leafy was like. Nothing idubbz said shined a new light. Same with ricegum. Everything idubbz "exposed" all the fans already knew. The hate came from idubbz fans at least %95
0 likesLeafy's viewers tired of negative content, take action after watching more negative content
0 likesSlurpwis That’s one of the reasons I left. But for me, it just got stale. His insults starting becoming uninteresting at best, and being a bully at worst. He just got bland, and lost what made him unique.
0 likesSlurpwis yea, I remember around when the onision v leafy stuff was going down I went from being an onion fan to being a leafy fan, but I watched his old videos when he was actually kind of funny, and when I went forward to watch his more recent videos he was like. Not funny, and I had gotten kind of tired of it like you’re saying. It was entertaining while it lasted though
0 likesI'm absolutely in love with the production quality of all your videos dude, I can't imagine the hell you have to go through with all this editing. tbh we need more content creators that put solid effort into making videos as polished and cleanly produced as your channel
6 likesSo after Leafy took your advice and started punching up, YouTube bans him.
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@Mercury yeah, 100 % agree.
0 likes@youtubeuserdan It's the roachdogg junior, a legendary individual.
4 likes@Mercury Leafy is bad
1 like@Mantis_repair_man nah
2 likesI would love to see Leafy try and exist in today's current landscape, like the content that he was making would never fly on YouTube today, and you have to adapt and overcome the fact that like, you can't even curse now like I dont know.
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lmao
3 likesYoutube truly hit its peak in 2016, and has been on a downward spiral ever since.
7 likes19:50 I don't know why it was so funny to me to hear leafy say what's up. But that's just one of the many instances of your amazing editing and comedic timing Emp, keep up the great work! :)
5 likesEmp in 2018: "Minecraft would never be that popular again"
178 likes2019-2020 internet: Nahhhh
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2013
1 like@Hi There:3 what
1 like@WilliamIsMe it's not 2018 it's 2013
0 likes@Hi There:3 are you high
1 like@WilliamIsMe what do u think.
1 likehe meant that it would never be that popular again till then. notice the use of would
10 likesIt has gotten too popular to the point the old community was better than this redditor mentality modern minecraft of harassing children online
4 likesThe grain (grian)
1 like2021: never again
3 likesand this new mcyt era is terrible and more terrible and worse and worse until it literally is just a downward spiral i hope this era just dies quickly
0 likesthe effort and research that goes into your videos is actually really impressive
3 likesI hope that a mistake of this scale doesn't happen again.
3 likesIt's so monumental that we only know 2 instances of such monumental mistakes:
1. Titanic
2. LeafyIsHere
I-I would love- People saying, "Oh Leafy come back." I would LOVE to see Leafy come back and try to exist in the landscape today. The content he was making would NEVER fly on YouTube today and you have to adapt and overcome the fact that... You can't even curse bro.
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Like, I don't know.
1 likeAs much of a meme as that statement was H3 was completely right. Leafy had no chance at surviving on YouTube today at least for long.
0 likesits 2020 and youtube just said fuck it and terminated his account
5 likesComing back here after he got yeeted.
167 likesI hated his old content, his new content was better and had some decent variety, including economic advice. Still mean spirited, but was at least aimed towards other youtubers and streamers who are professionals. Actually liked some of those videos
Shame tbh.
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Same here. I completely avoided his old content, when he can back this year with new stuff I watched and enjoyed pretty much all of it.
21 likess a m e
4 likesNice pfp
2 likesLooks like YouTube’s finally gone and hit the big red button
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❌ Freedom of speach
8 likes✅ Greater Good Dictatorship
@Mercury
0 likesI don't think you controversial when you're again the "Greater Good"
I think he was honestly right. Leafy just got terminated, I think it’s pretty clear YouTube still hates him. By the looks of it they were already messing with with him when he came back. His videos made it in trending but got removed, he’s had multiple videos taken down. Emo was spot on with this one, they are straight up done with him. I highly doubt they’ll let him come back. Well have to see though
2 likesThe Rise, Fall, And Triumphant Return Of LeafyIsHere
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The Rise and Fall and Rise of LeafyIsHere
0 likes@GCNElite the rise and fall and rise and termination of Leafyishere
1 likeSort by new, then take a shot every time someone says "This video aged poorly."
10 likesYou'd easily be dead 10 minutes in.
He recently got terminated after coming back in april, and it took some months for leafy to get terminated
2 likesLittle did we know that was just season 1 of the Leafy Bizarre Adventure
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Nice pfp
1 likeThis videos so well written,
0 likesthere should be more vids like this
aged like milk. this is still a great video either way.
4 likesWell.
4 likesThis certainly aged well.
Time for the upward”s” spiral to start, leafy is back and there could be a part 2 of this, the rise and fall and rise and fall. You never know.
1 like12:21
3 likes2015: "This was a time when channels like FilthyFrank were at their cultural peak, and getting away with videos that pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable on YouTube."
2020: *YouTube takes down Hair Cake and Human Cake.*
It's pretty odd seeing how Leafy evolved, fell down hard, attempted to get back up by taking advantage of the reddit shitheads raging about simps, but ultimately fell back down into irrelevancy. Hate on IDubbbz, Leafy and this comment all you guys want, but let's kinda face things for a second...
0 likesReddit has become an epidemic
34:23 In fact, Content Cop was not supposed to be a "YouTuber killer" but it was to be a sort of measure to make those channels mentioned to make better content, not to kill the channels after all
0 likesEDIT: The differente between Leafy and Keemstar is that Keem sort of "learned from his mistakes"
damn this vid almost made me sad for a byegone era. like... being 13 and getting really excited whenever leafy posted a new vid, and talking about youtube drama with my friends in the back of class... it was such a simpler time back then
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coming home every day and watching him bully someone was nice
3 likesHopefully Emp will have to make a part 2 soon.
2 likesI would love to see leafy survive in todays climate
1 like"Minecraft reached it's cultural peak in 2013, never would get higher"
3 likeslaughs in 2019
I shall take note of this, and then forget about it in five minutes. I'm doomed to fail and it's spectacular.
1 likeThe ,,All roasts and no play makes Leafy a gone boy" text at the end is the perfect bookend to this video
0 likesTurns out leafy just left because he didn’t like the website.
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And he's back and makes videos for fun
8 likesI'm kinda happy that Leafy managed to successfully get a foothold on YouTube again cuz I'm loving his new content
3 likesHe may say that, but it's obvious that he's still EXTREMELY salty about the videos other people made on him.
3 likesLmao got bullied off the site
0 likesHe got deleted
0 likes@Freidheim of Krolastern Yep, Ethan was right, and anyone with common sense could've seen this coming a mile away. Leafy's style of content can't exist in youtube anymore.
1 like@Lazzle Dazzle Leafy was a relic of the old youtube when there were tons of edgy content
3 likes@Freidheim of Krolastern It's honestly a shame, I was actually starting to like him with his newer content.
1 likeLazzle Dazzle because as said by emplemon, youtube DOESN’T WANT HIM HERE
0 likes@Laserdemon Frostmage Yep.
0 likes45:17 one time emplemon's channel became too popular too quickly and the YouChew forums were jealous
1 likeCan't believe hes making a come back
4 likesI remember when I first stumbled across Leafy's Minecraft content and thought he was cool...
1 likeI've watched so much Bojack horseman. During the begining before the song really came to the foreground I already felt a sense of excitement and an equal sense of dread.
1 likeThis made me sad, wish he could've changed; probably had a bit too much going on mentally.
0 likesi find this video highly hilarious in today's climate
4 likesThis now feels like that skit in the simpsons where they were watching Titanic and the giant boat comes back from the water to eat the characters.
3 likesPeace be with you Leafy
0 likesNice video. I actually do see his videos in my recommended every once in a while
4 likesOh god the nostalgia...
0 likesIt hits like a truck
Nothing like watching EmpLemon at 5:30 am
0 likes26:52 I'm surprised Grade doesn't have a huge minigun set on his horse...
0 likesAnd now Emp and leafy follow each other on Twitter lmfao
6 likesWhen you burn hot and bright, you burn fast. But on the other hand, that light inspires and guides others who walk similar paths..
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A not-so-noble sacrifice. RIP
0 likesHow can you say "reptilian propaganda" without laughing wtf
1 like31:39 look at the top right: "ANIME HAS OFFICIALLY DOOMED THE PLANET EARTH"
1 likeI'm just gonna throw in that he's the reason which started my weeb lifestyle. Of course how I've got from Leafy to anime insipirations is a bit complex, but he got me there in the first place. I'll never forget him for that reason.
Also, I never really hated Leafy with a passion. I was a long time viewer when iDubbz' video dropped. I held off watching it for a while but then felt like I had to watch it after Leafy's response video. Yeah sure, I disliked him for a few weeks, but I was/(am?) sad that it has killed his channel. If he'd stayed consistent with his uploads, I could see myself watching his videos, even to this day.
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Before I checked this vids' comments, I didn't know he came back, no cap. Full pog
0 likesdont be a weeb.
0 likes@HIFlipSide Have you seen his latest videos, He includes anime references in pretty much all his videos now i doubt he hates weebs..
0 likesLeafy Is Banned
5 likesngl leafy leaving and returning is like a good cartoon being remade into a shittier medium
0 likesThis title aged Perfectly
35 likes1:27
0 likes“That’s where I come in” lmao your face 😂
leafy is a good YouTuber he is almost back to 5 mil
1 likeglad i never got into leafy, i just didnt find it all that interesting tbh
2 likes“minecraft would never again be as popular” haha yeet
12 likesive had one of his videos appear once. maybe twice, back when i was rewatching all of his videos to relive a time before the world went to shit.
1 likeAnd 2 years later Minecraft is relevant and Leafy is returning... Strange Times
8 likesEveryone saying "this aged badly" just because leafy returned just dont know that eventually hell just die again after a few months. Its still the same content as 2016. People just want to believe that hes back just to pretend its 2016 "the good ol days".
0 likesJust wait till that high stops then hes gonna quit again. Unless he changes his shit up, which I doubt
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dude his new content is just trolling he doesn't even take it serious at all anymore he also said he did all of those things back then for views and money and thats all he cared about and plus its been 4 months and he's still able to reach 1M views in every video sometimes even 2M
2 likeshe is back. and he has risen above
5 likesThat MF DOOM sample gave me chills. You content pirate you.
0 likesEmp; by making this video youre basically obligated to make another one about Leafy in a year or so 😁😁
0 likesCaptains are required to know everything about the ship they captain. Your analogy is bad
1 like“Minecraft surpassed it cultural peak in summer of 2013, I will never be as popular as it was ever again.” boy were that wrong!
0 likes15:00 The Doom beat is perfect
1 likeDamn this video aged like milk in the sun
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No
0 likesThis is now extremely relevant again
3 likesAin't this guy back? Pokimane is his new target. I hope you aint a tier 3 sub. Yo great video just needed to be about 20 min shorter. You good though homeboy real talk. This coming from someone who don't like these kinda videos or anything on YouTube really. Thanks for the video. I know it's not easy producing shit like this.
1 like34:00-45:00
0 likessome danganronpa shit that was so well explained and entertaining like solving a murder case fuck I love these videos
little bit of trivia is that his curse was real
2 likestwo years ago.. nostalgia
5 likesThe king did not step down, he just stepped out for a bit.
2 likesThis video didn't aged too well
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Aged great, you mean.
0 likesnow the real question is...
2 likeswhat type of leaf is leafyishere?
5:51
0 likesPewdiepie: IS THAT A CHALLENGE
I have never gotten a leafy video recommended in the last 4 years on youtube
1 likeDamn i was hoping to see a comment from leafy on here. Oh well I'll check back later
3 likesNo longer relevant but still a good piece. C+ tier at best...
0 likesso, idubzz the youtube channel killer technically killed himself. nice
1 likeHave you heard the tragedy of leafy is here? I thought not it's not a story the algorithm would tell you...
1 likething is leafy and keem never exactly hated eachother it was all for money and their friends again now
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Leafy and keem are bisness men
1 likeMan Iddubz before simping was something else.
0 likesLeafy came back and he's a reaction channel without face cam lmao. Not shaming, just that he's subpar.
0 likesthis video didnt age well
3 likes"minecraft reached its cultural peak" hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2 likesThe Scripting in these videos are just, MMMMMMMMMMM so gooooood
0 likesHe returned. Simps were victims
1 likeDude I just realized Leafy's videos on Keem are 4, and H3H3 videos on keem are also 4
0 likesHe returned and made a bunch of videos and i didnt get recomended a single one
2 likesI love that this video basically admits that nobody saw the minecraft revival comming. It makes me happy:)
4 likesI remember thinking it was leafyshire instead of leafyishere
1 likeaaaaand he's back
3 likesThat bojack horseman music in the background compliments this video sooooo much
0 likesHe has been deleted...
1 likeHoly shit
It feels so surreal seeing one of MrBlackDarkness's videos in Leafy's recent Pokimane video. Its safe to say that the curse has been lifted.
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LMAO NOPE
1 likeCurb your enthusiasm
0 likesI have never watched any of the youtubers involved in this story.
0 likesThe Bojack intro song automatically gave me the depresso expresso vibes
0 likes7:13
1 likeAVGN: Am I a joke to you?
Leafy is here
1 likeno seriously he is back on the track
I would love to see
3 likes‘rise and fall’
2 likestoday: leafy still has 4 million subscribers and gets around 900k views per video
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1M views* and is about to hit 5M soon
0 likesHe regained all of the subs he lost and he's still going
0 likesLooks like leafy is back boysss
2 likesIma need A vamp. The rise, fall & RISE AGAIN of Leafyishere
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And fall again.
1 like1:00 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, HINDSIGHT’S 2020!!!
0 likesGod I love your music Choices, bojack theme and Gorillaz!
0 likesAnd then the titanic became the Flying Dutchman
1 likesince leafy is back, part 2 when?
0 likesI think it’s crazy that pyrocynical got on this, as I’m relatively new to commentaries
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Pyro was one of the original leafy clones, his style was ripped right off of leafy with his own deep voiced British flare.
0 likes"Minecraft surpast it's cultural peak . . .I will never reach this popularity again"
0 likes28:00 leafy is Jewish?!?!? 😳
1 likeThis didn’t age well
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This comment didn’t age well
2 likeslmao, its funny watching this now
1 likeThis is ironic seeing leafy today
1 likeTHE DARK MESSIAH RETURNS!
0 likesI actually recently got a recommendation for a recent leafy video
1 likeLeafy is back and to be frank I wish he were gone again.
0 likesWelp, look who's back now lol
0 likesWelp, look who's back now lol
0 likesI got a iced tea ad before watching this
1 likethis was one of the #trending
0 likesGood outcome overall
0 likesI don’t want to be famous I love shitposting its so fun. All I care about is that my videos can make me laugh.
1 like"It would never be so popular" Minecraft: is that a challange punk ?
3 likesthis video became semi outdated when you said "this will be the highest minecraft will ever do"
2 likes... the phoenix rises ...
1 likei like how this guy liked the content cop lol
1 likeGod I fucking love mf
0 likes2:46
2 likesPewds's age XD
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Do you think carryminati will also die like leafy?
2 likes@Piyush Ghildiyal nah, he's way too big to die plus leafy isn't dead, as soon as he started uploading again he got viewers.
3 likesIn my thinking you can't kill a channel once it's famous, you just can't.
@Xoraxus ya I have watched his content series on pokiman.
2 likesBut recently carry has doubled his subscribers.
And most of them are not his loyal fan...
They have subscribed because he bash tiktokers.
I think he can be cancelled easily...
Hmm dank rishu content chowkidaar
😁😁😁😁
this video is now pointless because he is back
0 likes20! I thought you were at least 23 at the time of this video.
0 likesAnd leafy hasn't changed at all in his comeback, he is still holding a grudge against someone who made fun of their chin like 3 years ago. It's pretty fucking sad.
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@HLA 0302 It's pretty obvious that he does if you look at the fact that in one his new videos he played the victim card again, and tried to act like he was a vulnerable victim in the idubbbz situation.
0 likes@HLA 0302 At the beginning of his video, "the most tilting video someone has ever made on me" he did. It's pretty hilarious.
0 likesLazzle Dazzle well now you can no longer be disproven, but I have a feeling you didn’t watch any of his new content before it was gone.
0 likes@Sphere space NO, and I was right.
0 likes@Big Papi Oh I did, it was actually pretty funny, but it was obvious he was salty.
0 likesThe return
2 likesyou have to admit, ricegum was killed from the content cop. following the content cop, ricegum's analytics showed a dying channel. millions of subs, but quarter of a million views, at max. then he just kinda got forgotten for a few years, and now he is returning, but without a doubt, iddubz definitely had ricegum dead for a few years
1 likeLeafy is back when?
1 likeI didnt see any recommendations from a channel called "Leafy is Here"
0 likesSuch a nicely researched video. I didn't even watch other "Why leafy is dead" sort of videos but I bet they weren't as thorough as the one Mr.EmpLomon served to us. It makes me so confused to see such poorly edited video (low-quality images with jpeg artifacts and softness) feels so good, in fact, better than a video with extensive animations and whatnot, which taught me a very valuable lesson which I already knew but have never actually seen with such presentation, and that is, better animations != better video. Was completely worth spending almost an hour on...
7 likesYou're what GamerFromMars could be if he had a personality.
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Exactly what I was thinking lol
1 likeThe Widow's Son gamerfrommars isn't a bad channel though
0 likes@Marquis, He's a very impressive AI that's for sure.
10 likesThe Widow's Son nah I like him, rebel taxi and him are the only cartoon reviewers I like and I do have shitty taste so...
0 likesHis content is interesting, but I'm still convinced he's an animatronic. Just imagine what they'll be able to do ten years from now.
5 likesThe Widow's Son I see what you mean but considering you have the lele pons and Jake pauls who use screaming as "comedy". having YouTubers who are more calm and laid back are more of my preference
0 likesI remember watching the GamerFromMars back in 2009
0 likesBruh the bojack intro gave me flashbacks
1 likeUmm yeah so about that Minecraft popularity chart...
3 likesI miss him. I used to come home from school every day and watch him. It would make me feel good to think that even though he was troubled, he got through it all with jokes kinda like I did. He was truly there when no one else was when I was stupidly depressed. He influenced me highly, and now he’s gone. It sucks.
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Sah Dude yeah I miss him
5 likesAre you still depressed?
0 likesTax Doctor - If kids are being loud and 'obnoxious' you ask them to quiet down. You don't gather your friends and 'go f*** with them' because they are wearing leafy merch. Unless you want to be a bully...
0 likesI don't know what the female AP is, but I'm glad to hear you had more reason than you initially stated. The way you presented the story, what you were doing sounded pretty terrible!
0 likesholy shit, I can't believe how well this is produced. this shit is too good for youtube.
7 likesI had been a leafy fan for a few months, after a while I started noticing I was enjoying his videos less and less. The content cop showed me why I was getting bored of leafy while showing me actually entertaining content. That was my (and probably plenty of others) switch from leafy to IDubbbzTV.
4 likesGuess who's back Lol
2 likesYou have to admit . it is strange the downfall happened before the content cop
78 likesI GET IT over 9000!
0 likesThe Great Drama Wars will never be forgotten 😔🙏
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Mark Mason yep
1 likedonte llx real OGs remember fred and boxy
0 likesMark Mason Need that shit during last few years of Highschool lmao
0 likesWell, he just got suspended today, after making a comeback to YouTube for the past few months.
1 likeAs one of those people that subscribed to Leafy during his rise in early 2016, this was a really eye-opening (and wonderfully produced) video. Like many others I was drawn into his unique 'commentary over video game footage' style and found it very easy to listen to while multitasking. And like many others, I became disillusioned with Leafy as soon as he became incredibly toxic and got involved with all the Youtube drama.
28 likesIn the end, his fall was caused by his own hand (conspiracy theories notwithstanding) and the era of personal commentary he led is now in the dustbin of Internet history. But your video reminded me of what made me subscribe to him in the first place, and the lessons to be learnt from becoming famous too fast. And for that, you have earned my subscription :)
P.S. I can see one LeafyisHere video in the recommended list, so maybe Youtube screwed up this time?
Even iDubbbz openly states that Content Cop isn't meant to kill channels, but rather explain their flaws. Of course, no one listens to him outside of his criticism and normally believes his work to be a channel killer.
100 likesIt's more or less people being idiots and not fully understanding what iDubbbz says.
Amazing video, I would certainly be open to more videos like this. They are a great analysis of YouTube's history.
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Josh Van true
0 likesJosh Van Even though edups didn't intend to destroy his channel, I think his CC on him was nonetheless a big factor in his decline. Because it was so damn brutal and funny many people couldn't help but take it to the extreme and actively shun Leafys channel in favor of idubbbz and other similar channels with higher quality
0 likesIm just soooo amazed, bro, you made me stay the whole video, i just cant explain u, but u are so fucking awesome, idk bro, THIS IS REAL QUALITY CONTENT GUYS!!so sad the end, leafy could succesfully be someone else on these days, but like u said, 20 years old, he was 2 young and inmature, srry 4 my bad english tho, great video!!!
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Yups! Ikrrr
2 likesIdiot confession :
57 likesWhen Minecraft YouTube first started, I actually said to friends :
'Minecraft is great, but, it's a personal experience; Not many people are going to want to watch other people dig and build stuff.'
Probably one of my most blatantly incorrect assumptions ever.
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But I think it might partially be true, if you look at the popular Minecraft YouTubers, they are almost all comedic personalities that appeal to the 8-13 year old kids that were watching them for entertainment, and now that those kids have grown up, and Fortnite is the new Minecraft, their channels are dying. But people like Jeracraft, who are more focused on the advanced building part of the game (rather than just comedy/commentary) are still doing fairly well. I think this is because they have a more mature/focused audience who are playing not playing Minecraft because it's the hot new thing, but because they genuinely like the game, and improving their skill at it.
2 likes14:41
0 likesWhooo
MF DOOM it´s in tha house!
internally, leafy changed
3 likesOH MY GOODNESS! I absolutely adore this video from start to finish! Very informative and very engaging. I always wondered where Leafy went to after a while. One minute he was here and everyone was talking about him and the next he was just gone. Thanks for this!
10 likesnow leafy is back, but not as interesting as it was during the erlier days.
0 likesI remember Leafy
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I remember iDrugs too.
0 likesi did NOT expect this video to be this well thought out and well put together. wow. just wow.
8 likesHows that curse it seems to have helped him
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How did the curse helped leafy. Do mean that it gave leafy views or what.
0 likes@why why sarcasm* and the fact that the curse was stupid and didnt work try to think bout things before saying
0 likes@andrew xxxx it was a question ok
0 likesAn EmpLemon Commentary with an intriguing topic?
52 likesWith TF2/ CS:GO references?
And BGM from DOOM, Gorillaz and even the Adult Swim theme?
Oh, this is like a present on Christmas Day.
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Are you implying that not every emplemon commentary has an intriguing topic?
0 likesthelivingmonkey They all have interesting premises. Yet personally, I think the topic of this video is greater that MeiAIDS because we see the rise and fall of a really controversial creator, while MeiAIDS was more mysterious and elusive
0 likesanother video is required
1 likeThis is an amazing video. I feel like no matter what Leafy is and will always be one if the most influential youtuber and was a genius. If youtube was the cause of his death, then that even adds to his influence where the big company wanted him gone. And yeah, 2015-2016 was the peak of youtube. I always wondered when youtube started to decline and how it is now, it seems like after leafy’s decline. That period of time I feel like Leafy defined youtube since nearly all the big channels revolved around him.
5 likesAnd now YouTube just straight up killed him off
3 likes39:00 Just want to point out: Jake Paul absolutely saved Keemstar in mid July 2017. He is the reason that Keemstar broke 3 million subs. Jake Paul's insane antics those few weeks gave all the young users a reason to sub to Keem because he was delivering the juicy stories fast and furious. Every single day something new was happening and Keem was on the top of his game covering it. I agree that Leafy was suppressed by youtube, but to say that Keem "inexplicably" gained so many subs during that time is completely false. Otherwise amazing video as usual!
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theVHSvlog honestly I even subbed back to keem during all the Jake Paul content with him and also keem was friends with Alissa Violet and clout gang so we wanted their side of this
14 likesJake Paul didn't save keemstar, keemstar was doing great months before that, he got a lot of views and support. The Jake Paul stories just helped him get even more views and subs. He was good off without him
8 likes2016 was a huge year for leafy and keem wayyy before Jake paul
1 liketheVHSvlog Other than that, his videos become much higher in quality with quick fast news storie
1 likeJacob Thomas he had a fall from late 2016 to summer 2017, Jake Paul helped allot
0 likesJacob Thomas keem was falling in 2016, because of Grade A, and leafy, a lot of other commentary channels jumped on the band wagon and started bashing him as well. Pyro being really the only one who had a legitimate reason to make an expose video on him. Later idubbbz, in late 2016, made a content cop on leafy, which lead to him starting to gently fall from grace like a feather, grade A at the time was being a little bitch, and people started realizing grade's points in his videos weren't researched, and he started attacking people who just didn't deserve it. Then early 2017 was the whole heywatchyourmouth expose video on leafy, where it showed that grade and leafy lied about Keem, just so they could separate themselves, that's when both their channels fell, they no longer make videos anymore.
4 likesHeywatchyourmouth made people realize leafy and grade were wrong? Nope, wrong again, leafy and grade were falling before that, because people realized they lied about keem, and because of idubbbz's content cop.
0 likesBob Lee Keem was still back on track before summer 2017, he was pulling as many views as he did before leafy and grade lied about him
1 likeLeafy was here...
1 likewhats the float on the bowie knife at 34:11 thats fucking sick
0 likesFor real though, this was a great watch. My only exposure to Leafy was through Content Cop so it's been fascinating to see him through a more sympathetic light.
40 likesReally big fan of your work EmpLemon, keep it up
I guess the Titanic just rose back up
0 likesThis video is done so well, so much research has gone into this! Great work man.
46 likesDear God
1 likeYouTube is fuckin awful
"wanna see me do it again"
0 likesThis has to be one of my favorite videos on the internet, this video kept me on the edge of my seat the whole way through, not to mention the editing is spectacular, amazing job
9 likesI really enjoy this series that you've been doing. Really well done! Please continue with this!
6 likeshe never will not at not survive in climate this now
2 likesThat's actually a really interesting theory you have there about him being the first victim of demonetization and everything.
7 likesIf that's true, I feel bad for Leafy. He should've died by his own accord, and its terribly fucked up that YT would put him down without him burying his own career.
Laughs in hindsight
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Cries in hindsight
0 likesLove the effort and research you put into videos
7 likesWow this is probably the best youtube documentary I've ever seen
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Lawayne Hayes Pyrocynical is pretty good.
0 likeshis not here anymore tho 2020
1 likeI miss leafy personally, his content was like 90 Percent sarcasm, and 10 percent real talk. It may have been a little bit cancerous but i enjoyed him ragging on people who deserved it.
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yeah, me too dude. Raiding comment sections with the "hiss" (not the personal attacks and shit) was glorious. Loved it. I miss him too man....
2 likesGreat stuff, EmpLemon.
10 likesYour content is always a treat to watch, thanks for being a great entertainer.
Idubbz memes leafy for no chin the get memed for his gf
1 likeI personally think that content cop is less about killing, and more of an attempt to spark deserved hate towards a person or genre.
61 likesLeafy returns plz
1 likeLeafyIsBack
1 likeDamn, when I saw how long this video was I almost ignored it, but once I started it I watched the whole thing without a single pause. Excellent job my man.
37 likesWhat an insightful look at Leafy...
36 likesI hate to admit it, but I could never look at him as the victim until this video...
Thanks for an actually mind boggling 50 minutes of watch
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asaf chen .
0 likesasaf chen he was a victim, but it was a good reason.
0 likesLeafyIsBack...
2 likesFor those who want one; here’s a timeline that summarizes Leafy’s career:
316 likesOctober 2011 - Leafy creates his account.
May 2012 - Leafy’s account, then dedicated to Minecraft, begins to grow in popularity.
November 2012 - Leafy’s account gains 9,000 subscribers.
July 2013 - Minecraft loses it’s popularity.
August 2013 - Leafy’s account begins to halt in growth,
November 2013 - The first video still on the account is uploaded.
April 2014 - The last surviving Minecraft video is uploaded to Leafy’s account.
November 2014 - The first commentary video is uploaded to Leafy’s account.
February 2015 - Leafy begins trying to find a new style.
March 2015 - Leafy starts using the commentary style more.
April 2015 - Leafy begins his KIDS THAT ARE TOXIC series.
July 2015 - Leafy’s channel begins to boom in popularity.
August 2015 - Leafy begins his KIDS THAT YOUTUBE series,
August 2015 - Leafy’s account becomes even more popular, reaching 100,000 subscribers.
August 2015 - Leafy makes references to the hiss meme.
August 2015 - The his meme becomes popular.
September 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 200,000 subscribers.
October 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 300,000 subscribers.
November 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 400,000 subscribers.
November 2015 - Leafy begins going after specific individuals.
December 2015 - Leafy’s account reaches 500,000 subscribers.
January 2016 - Leafy falls into controversy after making fun of MrBlackDarkness666.
January 2016 - A Wikitubia article is made on Leafy.
January 2016 - MrBlackDarkness places a “curse” on Leafy.
January 2016 The two (sort of) settle their dispute.
February 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 1,000,000 subscribers.
March 2016 - Leafy makes fun of an autistic man.
March 2016 - The same man releases statements about received death threats.
March 2016 - H3H3Prodictions shares his thoughts on the situation.
March 2016 - Leafy apologizes and acknowledges his mistakes.
March 2016 - Leafy begins to break his friendship with H3H3Productions.
April 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 2,000,000 subscribers.
April 2016 - Leafy uploaded his most popular video to date.
May 2016 - Leafy’s account reaches 3,000,000 subscribers.
May 2016 - Leafy unlists, then re-lists his video on Leafy.
June 2016 - Leafy breaks his friendship with Keemstar.
July 2016 - Leafy’s account is hacked by PoodleCorp.
September 2016 - Leafy is critiqued by IDubbz.
October 2016 - Leafy’s account begins to decline.
July 2017 - Leafy’s nude pictures are leaked to the public.
July 2017 - Leafy’s account reaches 1,000,000,000 views.
December 2017 - Leafy abandons his account.
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What a journey 😪
16 likesAt around autmmn 2018: Keemstar was able to contact Leafy for an interview
15 likes@Other Gopher They're leaked images, so I'm sure you can Google them to find out for yourself.
5 likesyeet
4 likes@Other Gopher I mean, you asked about it. Just sayin'.
19 likesThank you fren
2 likesFeb 2016- 1 million subscribers
2 likesApril 2016- 2 million subscribers
May 2016- 3 million subscribers
Those numbers are insane! I didn't realize just how fast he shot up in such a small period of time. It makes his eventual downfall and departure even more difficult to comprehend.
if it isn't the man himself, sceneable
0 likesOther Gopher the way this sentence is structured sounds exactly leafy. Lmfao.
0 likesMake an update video.
1 like22:07 Jesus Keemstar has such a dead looking face xd
2 likesYouTube geographic on Jontron and Pewdiepie
665 likesHow to survive controversy
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ImmaLittlePip This is a great idea. If Emp ever wants to do another one of these then this would be definitely worth the wait
64 likesMetalEclipse
80 likesEspecially since Jontron is doing much better than ever and (most) everyone has forgotten the controversy
ImmaLittlePip i wouldn't say absolutely everyone's forgotten about the controversy, some sjws are still shaken up by it to this day (i know this because i'm close with the normalboots/hiddenblock community)
57 likeshannah
44 likesOh I know
Sjws hated Jontron since 2014 and when he went on to sargon stream
Also is the normalboots and hidden block community composed of sjws? I know pbg tends to lean far left but damn
What did Jontron do, anyways?
4 likes+1
3 likesKyu Myu
42 likesGave his Opinions even if they were controversial
Though since Destiny runs with the sjw crowd they are fans of that Pedro Manlet they ran with the "Jontron is a secret Nazi" narrative
Which you can tell they wanted to do ever since he went on Sargon of Akkads live stream bashing sjws
I'll say this I think most people remember Jontron for his time on game grumps and his flex tape videos than they do a controversy that lasted for 3 months. When he uploaded his vanilla ice video everyone moved on and remembered him as a comedian
35 likesPewdiepie is one the best examples of this. One of the best redemption arcs in Youtube history. I'm pretty sure the entire controversy revolving around him has only boosted his numbers and reputation. I'm not sure about Jon though, but it does seem like his videos still get views in the millions. He probably just needs to upload more
41 likesKyu Myu he said controversial statements about minorities.
1 like@Aldrich_Leblanc On what authority are 'random people' like John Tron 'too egotistical' to be allowed a perspective on a complex social issue, without 'exposing themselves to be a fool?' Do they have to be an agenda pushing lobbyist, or a member of the 5 corporations, or any one of its millions of derivatives that own the overwhelming majority of the media? Or better yet, do I have to not be a 'dissenter?'
13 likesImmaLittlePip
0 likesI think one of the main reason behind the huge backlash of Jon being on Sargon's stream is whiplash some felt in his character
Like Jon was generally view as an overall clean, nice and wholesome guy but then hes hanging out with someone like Sargon who is at best a complete idiot or at worst an intellectually dishonest dirt bag
Lol its a bit idiotic to attribute all the hatred to sjws. What, can't come to terms with the fact that some people genuinely lost respect for him because of the stupid shit he said?
4 likessebastian feijoo I mean, he's neither of those things (you may strongly disagree with his stances), and everyone was accusing him of associating with a Nazi or a right-winger, Sargon being neither of those.
1 likeseg162 I mean in contrast to what was percived of him during his time on Game Grumps and on his channel.
1 likeAlso there was that time where Sargon invited one of the main organizers of the Charlottesville protest to his stream so he could basically spew his propaganda about how that woman actually die of a heart attack instead of being ranned over, while also laughting about it
Sargon Isn't far-right, but he sure is their useful idiot
i got a few ideas too:
1 likegrade a under a
2016 and the keemstar incidents
buzzfeed
videogamedunkey and his rise to fame
and yeah thats all i got
Jontron did nothing wrong.
1 likePewdiepie's pivot from being YouTube's golden boy to the people's champion was damn impressive. It kind of symbolized the way people in general felt about YouTube.
3 likes@Cid Luneth
4 likesThere's no actual controversy around him. It was manufactured outrage by the media. None of his viewers were offended, and that's why he's fine.
My days as a leafy fan were simpler times
33 likesEmp, this was your best video by far. I was planning on leaving a long comment with many points and many explanations for each point, but it turns out I get fewer likes on long comments than people who just say stuff like ”This video is great” without any points or explanations what so ever. And it’s happening to me on literally every channel, not just here so... This video is extremely entertaining and thought out very well, I guess.
4 likesAlso, can you please make a Youtube geographic video on GradeAUnderA? I never really understood what happened to him.
I know this is a long comment (I didn’t want this to be like this), but what I was thinking about writing would at least 3x times longer than this.
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Phantom2524 Some rich boy under the disguise of a let's react persona made the big chin fall for his truck and made a absolute idiot out of him, especially when he created a video that manage to fool his subscribers. Grade A never recovered from that.
0 likesAre you sure about that hahahaha 0:43
0 likesYou know, of all the things to comment on, I have to give you props Lemon for the awesome soundtracks to your videos. The timing, quality and impact of the songs is always great.
7 likesThe artistic aspect of those videos is astounding. From the editing to the music choices... It's a very original and consistent technique which I can only associate with you. It's like internet-nostalgia themed, and I absolutely love it. Also, script-wise, from the rants to the investigative videos like this, it is sublime. It's engaging, even with the longer duration. It's not over-the-top or annoying in the slightest, differently from 99% of YouTube today.
4 likesAs someone who clearly understands internet culture and sees the true potential for study, investigation and, most importantly, engaging stories on the medium, you're the type of content creator YouTube most desperately needs today, and I'm really happy to see a video like this succeed. I will dare to call you underrated, not because you don't have one billion ghost subscribers, but mainly because I think this series should be something of a recognized staple of YouTube culture, fixed and propagated throughout this website, even though I know they would never allow it.
All in all, congratulations, this is a prime example of great content, hope you keep up developing your channel even further.
Now leafy is here
1 likeAs a person who never really understood what it means that "Leafy is back", it's really helpful to find content like this that explains the nuance and depth of Youtube's history in a way that makes you appreciate even the villains' backstory as you glimpse a peak behind the curtain. Years from now, videos like these will be used to analyze our current culture. Also, no chin.
26 likesI liked pyro more anyways
0 likesThis video was absolutely fantastic. Atop your editing skill, your perspective is spot on.
4 likesGreat moves Emp, keep it up, proud of you.
This is just a well made video. Didn’t think I would watch all 51 minutes, but damn this was well made. And I think you are right, YouTube killed him. They didn’t want that type of content on the site. Something else, you know how I found your channel? Because of a comment you made on a video.
6 likesMake a re-rise video
2 likesMight have been the 1st to have ever been cancelled? Lol oh oops almost forgot Like literally like literally literally 5 more x should do it lmfao
1 likeThe best thing that came from this video - I discovered who MrBlackDarkness is and I binge watched his videos for 2 hours last night and laughed the entire time. That dude is a fucking GEM.
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I know right? at first he just seemed like a random weirdo, but now he's just a pretty likeable guy.
6 likesI love these retrospectives and all the information provided is extremely well put together, but i keep noticing ways your editing could improve. I only say this as a creator that struggles to receive actual criticism, often times asking for it, but easing in and easing out your graphics rather than abrupt choppy movements that come to a sudden hault would improve your visuals a LOT. Takes more time to edit but if your goal is to improve these, then I think you may want to consider it. Otherwise you perform a lot of techniques I love, like the specific highlighting of certain areas of the screen while you dim the rest or when you find juuuust the right simpsons scene to illustrate your message. Awesome work overall, subbed and hungry for more.
8 likesHaving not seen a Leafyishere video in my life, this is how I've actually learned what his channel is/was about and what the informed hate surrounding him had been about.
3 likesI love this video for obvious reasons (it's just very well made) but my favourite part is the editing and every once in a while I come back to that intro of LeafyIsBlazing. God, that entire sequence is genius. The comparison to cowboys and "be the first one to fire" cut to Idubbbz with his Content Cop. ICONIC.
1 likeI definitely agree with the YouTube theory, during his decline prior to the content cop, I almost NEVER saw his vids on recommended, even though I saw them all the time previously.
4 likesI was still subscribed to him up until today, as i watched this. Totally blows me away how youtube willingly made someone vanish the way they did! Smart move
0 likesWhen Leafy dies again you gotta make a "There will Never Ever be Another Channel like LeafyisHere" just based on the line at 50:31
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Dude
4 likesI'd love to see him succeed in today's climate!
5 likesBased on how YouTube is treating commentary channels in 2020, I think Emplemon's theory on how YouTube originally cancelled Leafy is starting to make sense.
1 likeEdit: I heard the news. Leafy's channel has been permanently terminated from YouTube.
2013-2017:Leafyishere
333 likes2017-2020:Leafywashere
2020:LEAFYISBACK
2020(later): Leafywashere??? Again???
2020(even more later): Leafyisback... Again...
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2020:Leafywasterminated
59 likesCynical Skeet 2020: leafy is terminated
11 likesNot really
0 likes@ABI yeah losing 5m subs is not exactly "back" (at least now he has 69k hahaha)
0 likesEt3RnáL it’s gone now. if YouTube doesn’t let leafy have his channels back, he’s gone for good.
1 like@ABI near impossible he'll be unbanned
0 likes2020: LEAFYISBACK'NT
1 like2020 2 months later: Leafyisterminated
1 likeLeafywasback
0 likes@Kanye West no, he's back
0 likes@Rated R ik lol this was 4 months ago
0 likes@Kanye West was just spreading the word
0 likesNow as weafy
1 likethank you for bringing leafy back, mr lemon
3 likesThis one gave me goosebumps. I wish more people watched shit like this start to finish.
0 likesIncredible video. You've earned my subscription sir!
1 likeThat ending was truly amazing. I'm glad he actually used the music too.
0 likesThe story of leafy is inspiring
2 likesLeafy is the spectator who watches Ethan and Keemstar fight each other.
28 likesMinecraft would never be so popular again...
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Minecraft is still kinda popular rn but 2013 was def the peak
57 likes69 likes
0 likesnice
@smoochmgooch what year are you in 2017? Minecraft has never been morr popular than now.
6 likes@Bruh Dam yeah 2017 and 2018, MC was really dead in the water
7 likes@Itz Pro cause they didn't do shit with Minecraft til 2018
1 likeThe grain (Grian)
0 likesgoddamn it
0 likes@smoochmgooch naw because now normies play minecraft to, so it has a really large audience
3 likesAnd it’s still true
0 likesLeafy got so much power but he just doesn't realized it. If he did, he can make his community do so many things and make his channel bigger
2 likes"I would love to see Leafy"
129 likes~A chin without an owner
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Ethan literally posed with YouTube's CEO
1 like@Lazzle Dazzle you made this comment mere days before Leafy got banned. You are the Messiah!
0 likes@Eddy Drouet The kind of content leafy made couldn't survive in this new climate, Ethan was totally right.
4 likes@Lazzle Dazzle I understand getting demonetized to hell and back for his advertisement-unfriendly content, but straight up banning him without any prior strikes is absolutely unacceptable, and creates a precedent for any other content creator to get banned instantly without prior warning or strikes. This is bad. Like, really bad.
1 like@Eddy Drouet I'm not saying this is a good thing, I hate it, I'm just saying Ethan was right.
0 likes@Lazzle Dazzle unfortunately you're right 😔😔😔
0 likesI know u won’t see this but your content is the best on YouTube so be proud.
2 likesi never had hate from leafy, i just laughed because of things he said, he had a edgy humor that i liked, never watched h3 so i wont say much about him.
0 likesThis definitely does make me wish Leafy was a better person in the past...
1 likeOne time I had a dream that leafy made a video where he proposed to a Minecraft YouTuber in Minecraft and he rejected him. It eventually turned into a viral video and everyone was making fun of him
2 likesWell done video, keep it up.
1 likeafter I watched this video I felt like you could make a game like plague inc except for youtube lol
3 likesEmpLemon: “I’m 20 right now”
2 likesMe: checks oldest video “ten years ago”
This man started his YT career when he was 12.
It’s always sad to see the dodgier side of Ethan, the guy who used to be the dad of YouTube.
0 likesI think its pretty clear now that YT didn't shadowban leafy because many people have been getting leafy in their reccomendeds since he came back. Meaning content cop really did kill leafy.
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Maybe that changed to some extent since this video came out? But it still no where his old reach
3 likesChapter XI: Leafyisback
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@Homeless Hotdog go cry somewhere Else, goo goo gaa gaa Baby
70 likes@RMJ he actually makes good content now tho
13 likes@RMJ Leafy makes good content tbh I get to watch a calmer side of him when he's streaming in twitch and get to learn about him more. Plus his videos now are just trolling and messing around with H3H3 tbh its pretty funny
15 likes@RMJ lmao just because i like leafy "i must be a kid". there is such a thing as an opinion you know
7 likes@RMJ no at all. Now he targets YouTubers from his own league
4 likesEH
0 likesCytosine “HaHa Leafy no chin 10/10 big chungus thanks for the updoots.”
1 likeCytosine Just “grow up” bud, and quit being a hater.
1 likeWant some popcorn?
1 like@RMJ You obviously didn't watch any of his new videos, and Irony is basically "it's funny because it is true" You either don't understand what irony is, or you just seek for attention, either way, You getting bad attention from everyone around, what do you want a cookie as an award?
3 likesHe did a content nuke and managed to do a lot of damage against pokimane, doing good
2 likesAnd surpassed his 4.8 mark
1 likeChapter XX: LeafyisBanned
46 likesLeafy got banned noooooo
3 likeshe gone lol
6 likesAndddd he's gone again. Guess Susan decided to check YouTube again.
15 likesLeafyisgone :(
9 likesAs of right now, the only thing I can give right now, is the message that Leafy was there... I can't believe it... He went down fighting...
2 likesNOT ANYMORE !!!!
3 likesChapter XII: LeafyIsTerminated
9 likesChapter XIII: LeafyIsImpersonated
The story is getting sadder and sadder...
Chapter XII LeafyIsTerminated
4 likesthat aged like milk
6 likesChapter XII: Leafyisgoneagainwtf
2 likesChapter XII: LeafyIsGone
5 likesChapter XII: Leafyisdeadagain
3 likesoh if you only knew..
0 likesTalk about aging bad
0 likesChapter XII: Leafyisdead
0 likes@HeadcrabN
0 likesChapter XIII: Leafyisatwitchstreamer
chapter XII leafy is dead
0 likesr/agedlikemilk
0 likes@LLiimewater aged like my dad went to get the milk
0 likesChapter XIII - LeafyIsBanned
0 likesAged like fine milk,lol
1 like“There’s no way to stop the bleeding.”
9 likesLeafy: Are you sure about that?
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Leafy had 4.83M subs before his channel got hidden by YT and he returned at 4.17M subs and as of the 5th August 2020 he has 4.85M subs. Any bleeding he once had has been successfully stopped and he's still growing.
1 likeGCNElite well shit
0 likesF
0 likesLeafy is back, grade is back, keemstar is back in drama again. Its just 2016 again.
3 likes"If you asked any observer at the time they would have probably told you that his channel was dead in the water. But no one could have guessed that his channel would become more alive than anyone ever thought possible." ROUND TWO BABY!
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No
0 likesI hope leafy liked this video! He insulted everyone who kicked him while he was away and down! So his silence I guess is a good thing!
0 likesThere has been a disturbance in the force. Have you felt it. I sense a being of immeasurable power and ruthlessness making a return to ravage the land
1 likeBecause if you wanna make it big on YouTube...
0 likesya gotta dig into the old ruins of YouTube
This is one of the wisest videos that i have ever watched.
4 likesThanks.
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Yeppp
0 likes"never again would minecraft be more popular"
1 likelittle did he know...
This video was so beautiful.
1 likeI know its late to point it out but commentary videos over unrelated gameplay was a huge deal back when Youtube just became big. Back then it was usually people ranting over COD.
1 likeI still ask myself how dunkey can stay relevant with the same content?
0 likesThat use of the Bojack theme was perfect 👌
2 likesyou are underrated youtube needs to give you more recommendation
0 likesI like how he said minecraft wouldnt be as popular again, oh how you didnt know
3 likesHow in the world does EmpLemon use all of the music I listen to in his songs. Just found out about doom two months ago and realized All Caps was in this video.
1 like"Leafy Was Here"
0 likeswell that aged well
There will never ever be another YouTuber like Filthy Frank
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tru dat
0 likesI’d see that
0 likesTVFilthyFrank2 tho
2 likesEmp needs to make this
0 likes@Weebzee that channel is horrible.
4 likes@Kenzo Yokito he is fine I guess.
0 likesThat guy is being cringy on purpose and he knows it as well.
43:21 Objection!
1 likeThe LTT (Linus Tech Tips) channel subscribers is just as high as their highest viewed video despite them being favored by the algorithm.
Wasn't expecting MF DOOM to start playing but you should definitely keep doing that.
1 likeinteresting side note to this video. I remember watching it and checking in on leafys channel to see that he had returned to making content, i didnt think he would so i subscribed to be sure to keep up on it, and along rewatching the video, i again checked back because i hadnt even seen a video from him show up in my sub box, and somehow, i was unsubscribed from him, not the first instant of people being unsubbed, but still odd.
2 likes"Why there will never EVER be another youtuber like LeafyIsHere"
1 likeChange the thumbnail! Youtube's algorithm will eat it up!
fucking amazing. watching this in june 2020, still a lot of great takes
0 likesH3H3 strikes out in pain as he as he chastises you.
1 likeMy phone shut down at 24:09, right at “while Leafy’s made you-“ and it felt like even my phone had enough of him.
0 likesLove the references and editing🤩
0 likesHey, are we ever going to get a follow up on the STAR_ situation? It was an interesting scenario and i'd love to hear your take on it.
0 likesthis is my third time coming here to watch this vid because it's fucking art
0 likesTime, a fickle machine. We are not always aware of what may come. Time has shown us, anything is possible.
0 likesAnd the Leafy content cop was removed for harassment/bullying 🤔
0 likes50:34 Real title of the video "there will Never Ever be a commentary youtuber like LeafyIsHere"
0 likes6:43 still think this would be a great topic to touch on. The rise and fall of ster_ is a bumpy ride, indeed
8 likesmoral of the story, dont try to be a badass on the internet ever.
0 likes41:29 this picture upsets me a lot. youtube is slowly turning into a strict corporation till today
0 likesIs it me or are commentary youtubers like the police force of the open internet?
0 likesI hope you get to 1m subs emp
2 likesHow in the world does EmpLemon use all of the music I listen to in his songs. Just found out about doom two months ago and realized All Caps was in this video.
0 likesThis video aged poorly in every sense of the way, it seems
0 likesJust a little thingy i wanted to add.
0 likesI did not receive any Leafy videos in my recommended untill after his comeback wich is strange seeing that i have only watched about 2-3 videos by him before the content cop.
Now i get every new Leafy video recommended🤔
Love the bojack horseman theme at the start 😂
0 likesthis aged well
0 likesWhat game was leafy playing that involved him running on slopes?
1 likeI love your use of "All Caps". It's such a great song
1 likeAlot of talk about captain sparklez in this video, what EmpLemon seems to forget is that the only reason captain sparklez channel blew up was because of Seananners.
0 likes10/10, for sure
3 likesNic edocumentary.
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Yeah Emp's videos are awesome. They are so well made and every video is worth the wait.
1 likeleafy returns
1 likeImpending doom approaches...
Never knew Emp listens to MF DOOM.
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the only reason I came back to this video for the third time is cause I heard All Caps and realized it was in this video
0 likesHoly fuck that MF DOOM music part was so smooth
0 likesLeafyIsHere with the milk now
2 likesLive by the sword, die by the sword.
0 likesOnly one question dude.
0 likesWhat's a 'leafy'?
Leafy turned on his former ally? H3H3 drew first blood.
1 likeMrBlackDarkness666 done did it, he made me believe that magic exists. I thank him for giving me hope that I too can use magic and ruin a youtuber.
0 likesLeafyIsHere used to be ironic
1 like24:04 Oh how times have changed
2 likesEmpLemon Presents: a YouTube Geographic DLC - Episode 4.5: LeafyIsBack
18 likesNow the tables have turned and he is back what can happen next
1 likeThe Leafy Content Cop was released on my birthday.
1 likeThe bad thing about being a big player celeb on youtube is that the bad guys know who to kill lol
0 likesleafy out here playing eminems without me
2 likesI never had leafy's videos in my recommendations
3 likesEVER
well this didnt age too well but still a nice video before leafy came back ofc
0 likesCorrection: Leafy WAS here...
0 likesDuuuuude I love your use of the Adult Swim Pools song from the 90's. I'm starting to suspect you like LSD
2 likesleafy: makes chanel and dose minecraft
0 likesminecraft:dies out
leafy becomes amazing
leafy:dies
minecraft a few years later: SUP BITCHES AM BACK
leafy: i am kinda back
Chapter XII: LeafyIsComing
3 likesTry again lemon. The excel sheet master has returned.
1 likeHis channel comes up when you search for it now
1 likeKeemstar is in drama once again lol
0 likesWow, I can't be the only one that things that Leafy kinda sounds like Kendrick Lamar.
0 likesI wonder when clownstar will finally follow suit
0 likesThere has been a re-awakening
1 liketinfoil hat on In that secret meeting in 2016 I am pretty sure that Ethan Klein was there...
0 likesI love The Shining references.
1 like“minecraft would never again be as popular” funny
0 likesHISSSSSSS THE REPTILIAN BROTHERHOOD IS BACK
9 likesAnd also because cringe culture is pretty much dead(at least I don’t see cringe content much anymore)
1 likeChapter V : LEAFY IS BACK
1 likeOh how the tables have turned
2 likesGUYS leafy is back we gotta think of another tag to use an army against him again
0 likesChapter XII: LeafyIsBack
1 likeHe's back
2 likesThis is a mafia movie
1 likeBut awkward
Gabbie Hanna complaining about nothing when Leafy was actually shadowbanned... geez. The state of Youtube these days.
0 likesLeafyIsBack.
4 likesJust remember all caps when you spell the man name
1 likeThis actually makes me feel really bad for Leafy, and also teaches me not to walk through his tracks. Great video btw, you really do genuinely inspire me tbh
3 likesIm subed to leafy so yeah i see him in my recondmentations
0 likesI didnt know people still used mf doom songs in videos
1 likeHe’s suppose to be a historian for YouTube not putting out his opinion
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Who
1 likeSeth #traplife#sodmg this guy
0 likesLeafyishere
5 likesThis vid needs a squeal in a few months
0 likesYOOOOO JUST REMEMBER ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MANS NAMEEEEEEE
0 likesHe has kinda bounced back he stagnate at just below 5 Mil
0 likesGuess who's back back again
1 likeLeafy has achieved upward spiral
0 likesAnd now leafy IS here @_@
0 likesLol emp followed leafy on twitter
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Leafy followed Emp on Twitter too
0 likesSo, I hear that a vacancy has opened up at the Blackball Hotel ;)
1 likeThis is late, but it would appear that Leafy's still here.
0 likesBut now leafy is here
3 likesweli think that this expose was tue cuz they put him on relevant
1 likeThat all caps instrumental though
1 likecontent detective
0 likessuch an amazing video but did not age well
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okay nvm
0 likesBro he's back
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Nevermind he's gone again
0 likesWho else is here after Leafy came back?
0 likesChapter XII: Leafy Is Back.
8 likesEdit: Well shit...
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Arjan Singh this time forever, his YouTube legacy is gone
0 likesmfw leafy returns, for a new chapter..
0 likesthat intro looks straight from a john bois video
2 likesLeafy IS here
2 likesu have good music taste
0 likes-Later this year leafy was interview by keemstar.
167 likes- MrBlack lifted Leafy's curse today
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Bluejack 22 really? Did he make a video on it?
2 likes@NewginsLab
9 likesYeah
It feels like I am a WW2 Vet, going ‘I remember those days’
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FuriousBadgerGaming same
3 likesYeah, to think it was only 2 years ago
1 likeits pretty much the millennial first world equivalent
1 likeYup I feel the same way
0 likesFuriousBadgerGaming
0 likesThe great meme war
Lost many good man and woman
DeathSeller absolutely, including myself since I stopped watching all these youtubers except for Ethan
0 likesso Gen z
0 likesNot a fan of Leafy or his content but still quite sad the guy lost a dream job like YouTube
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The McZilla don't feel too sorry for him, he made a crap ton of money. He's probably set for life.
1 likegod the foreshadowing in this video...
0 likes1. minecraft came back
2. leafy came back
This video was more interesting, better researched than any news article to date and way more informative than any american documentary
4 likesand hes back... lmao
0 likesYou've got an incredible talent for editing. I haven't seen such a well made video in a long time.
6 likesOne of his videos are in my recommended right now lol.
0 likeswatching this whole video brought me back to the summer of 2016. boy were those days different. i was on here so much more back then.
18 likesthis some goodshit
3 likesA story is only as good as it’s villain.
38 likesHe is back
0 likesGotta love that song
0 likesThis is a brilliant video but it makes me sad and i kinda miss leafy
45 likesThis actually warrants investigation.
65 likesYouTube could get into some serious legal trouble if they censored Leafy.
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It's YouTube's platform, not Leafy's. They're in control.
23 likesProof?
0 likesNo they’re legally allowed to
1 likeCensorship on a private platform isn’t illegal if you agree to the ToS.
3 likesYouTube is indeed legally allowed to censor creators.
14 likesHOWEVER.
If they're found to have monitored and censored videos which hadn't been flagged, that could legally make them a publisher, making them responsible for any potential lawbreaking happening on the site.
Very interesting... We as a community could put a serious impact on Youtube and make them think twice before they keep censoring everyone.
6 likesthe sad part is what evidence we have isn't strong enough to completely pin it on youtube
1 likeWhile I agree with that, I believe that the people who have been serious back bones in this fight against youtube's tyranny, like finding out the rating system for advertisers, and the active censoring that was promised to be a myth. I really believe if we banded together we might just get enough dirt on them to make a legitimate court case... and can you imagine all the big power house content creators raising awareness and money for a lawsuit against youtube... they'd probably shit bricks as a company.
0 likesthat lawsuit will flop because theres no laws against censorship of one's own platform
0 likesLeafyIsBack
2 likesFun fact: leafys second channel (leafyisnthere) icon was used w/o credit and was drawn by a minor (my close friend). however they're kind of ashamed that they Ever did fanart of him so they don't wish to be named anymore. HOWEVER they did email him like 3 times and left comments on his videos asking for at least credit to no avail.
51 likesedit: https://imgur.com/a/ftV5cRg / https://i.imgur.com/xo2Chys.png
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LENEVADA
0 likesLeafyIsStealing
LENEVADA evidence to the clame?
0 likesLENEVADA your friend still draw?
0 likesyep! but wishes not to be named (the dA account shown is their side account for stuff they dont want associated w/ their main account, like shitposts) cus they don't want their rise to popularity to be LEAFY drama. if my friend wants to come forward however, i have sent them a link to this comment if they wanna reply themselves. hope u understand!
0 likesI love it when you make these types of videos, Keep it up dude! You are so entertaining.
41 likesThat was one of the best YouTube videos I ever watched. This was so well put together and it brought me back to my good ol days of being a reptilian. Also amazing job at putting the whole story of leafy "together"
20 likesLeafyisback... Leafy lives again
0 likesIve watched youtube content my whole life, but i didnt really regularly consume content on here till just a little after the content cop. I watch shitloads of commentary YouTube vids, and IVE NEVER, NOT ONCE seen a leafy vid reccomended to me. Ive never even seen a video of his, it was like he was a phantom, honestly at first i thought he'd deleted his channel outright, but this makes so much more sense.
5 likesTop of the line YouTube content, as usual. You never disappoint Mr. Lemon.
4 likesThis certainly is irony the video.
0 likesYour best Youtube Geographic and one of the best videos you have EVER made. I can't believe it's 2 am in the morning, this was just very captivating in a plethora of ways. I'm very glad your channel is just a gift that keeps on giving.
35 likesI love the tree life cycle images at the beginning of each chapter. Excellent touch. I also like how this wasn't just another history and bashing of a toxic youtuber. You showed sympathy and even related your own rise to fame on the site. Because at the end of the day, he's still a human like the rest of us. and when humans get power too suddenly and without an idea of what to do with it, this happens
4 likesmy recommended section often feels neutered nowadays must be the reptiles.
0 likesThis video turned a year old today. I still remember watching it 4 the first time. Kinda Nostalgic
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It really did sway most people’s opinion on leafy this past year
7 likesLeafy is back y'all
1 likeI guess Mr. Darkness's curse worked out
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KazeRV but he's not dead?
0 likesLuke et he suffered a fate worse than death
7 likesIf you want to see Leafy’s content in a more light hearted way just watch his 21st birthday video. He basically does what Pewds is doing right now by reacting to his community and he is pretty damn good at it. I’d love for him to come back and create some positive videos like that.
3 likesI have a theory.
667 likesEmp is actually leafy running on an alt.
But that's just a theory, a game theory.
Thanks for watching
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I have a theory pentolp is emp running leafy. But thats a theory a game theory
5 likes@Sugar Star understandable
1 likegoes to show how cynical I can be to idiots
@AlphaRW
0 likesYep
Reading not watching
0 likesOf course, Emp is Leafy, who's also Ness from Earthbound, who's also Sans from Undertale
0 likesBut how does this connect to Five Nights at Freddy's?
1 likei honestly wouldn't be surprised if matpat did this
0 likesStuff like this is the Future of youtube
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Probably not but we can hope
3 likesNo, if the time to make and edit this video was put into some low-effort vlogs, then they would be a lot more views... It really sucks that the actually good content on YouTube is pushed to the bottom by videos that take a hundredth of the time to make.
12 likesCorrupted I hope so
0 likesmore like the past of youtube, amirite bdum ts
1 likeCorrupted halo wi gets
0 likesno its all about pranks.
0 likesI hope it is.
0 likesOh... Hallo Corrupted xd
0 likesIt's very strange watching the beginning of this video post Minecraft resurgence
0 likes5:49 are u sure about that
1 like51 minutes of pure Emp-related bliss. I'm so glad you branched out and made content like this, EmpLemon. It really made me think.
4 likesGuess who's back
0 likesBack again
I miss the good days of YouTube. When it wasn't just jake Paul and fortnite. Back when filthy frank was the shit.
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Nuclear Silo there was still alot of cancer going on that time (pranks, kids channels, minecraft, etc)
25 likesBut why did Filthy Franku leave YouTube 😭😭
2 likesthats not that old
9 likesHe makes pretty good music now by the name of joji
9 likeshollow tavo I knew he looked similar cause I saw a rap remix of midsummer madness and thought he looked simular
0 likesEvery thing is the same we as human beings can't evolve Jake paul did the same shady shit leafy is heare did and you can also build in fortnite just like minecraft
1 likepink guy I guess dark souls is the same as mincraft because you could use a sword
6 likesBut remember how bad Pewdiepie was back then
1 likeNuclear Silo same
1 likeThe good old days of youtube were like 2009, 2010. Best YTP era, creative users, defined culture, not too big for its own good. No Google. The worst thing around was probably Fred or Annoying orange
4 likesPewdiepie 2010-2012 Very amateur but genuine and somewhat watchable
6 likesPewdiepie 2013-2015 Unwatchable
Pewdiepie 2016- FINE WINE
This is, if not one of the best YouTube Geographic vids I have ever seen, this is the new standard
37 likesWas the jewish caricature really necessary at 27:58 ? Maybe I am wrong and it's not, but if I'm not, that's antisemitic my dude. Uncool.
0 likesGreat video otherwsie
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reeeeeeeee
1 likehoooly shit the amount of effort you put in your videos is insane! you are a role model to every youtuber out there. i've never actually seen someone this humble on this site, keep up the work man, good luck in the future
7 likesJust wanted to say that this was a great video, very thorough, informative, presented in an unbiased way, and quite entertaining! I’m not too familiar with leafy and thought I’d watch about 5-10 minutes just to get a basic idea of who he is, but you had my attention right through to the end. You have a real talent. I especially like how you presented everything without a bunch of negativity or being over dramatic; you didn’t treat him like a hero nor did you demonize him.
3 likesNot sure why I watched this other than vague curiosity....but I’m glad I did!
LEAFY IS BACK
0 likeswelp hes back
2 likesi remember ALL of this unfolding back in 2016. i used to be an epic edgy keklord and watched all these videos. after the very first h3 video i quit watching leafy, though. its so wild how this era of youtube is dead when everyone was obsessed with it, thank god it is.
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tyler YouTube is worse now imo, now it's so many fake and manipulative YouTubers brainwashing their audience for money.
12 likesTD did you even watch the video, or have you never seen these videos
2 likesIt is not a good thing Filthy Frank is dead though. There are many good things that came out of that era of YouTube.
4 likes"Minecraft will never hit a peak this high again."
0 likesThat's. . . kinda ironic.
If it wasnt for Leafy, i would have never got into Youtube. I will always have a sad nostalgic love for Leafy. I started watching him in late 2015 and followed till the inevitable end i knew was coming. Thank you for this video.
3 likesI’m serious is this guy a fucking psychic, this isn’t the first time he did something like this too
0 likesThis aged poorly
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not really he still left for 2 fucking years didn't he
2 likesI mean, this video is from 2018, no one expect Minecraft get popular again and leafy return to YouTube out nowhere.
1 likeHere I came expecting leafy drama but got a history lesson instead. Emp, you never cease to exceed my expectations.
3 likesMr darkness killed leafy clear6
2 likesDamn. That was actually really depressing. He did what everyone wants to do, and fell right on his face.
3 likeswhen are you gonna update this video?
1 like18:02 yeah, but... Macdongal's succ.
0 likesI prefer the era of leafy over the era of Jake and Logan Paul.
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hate to say this but that was a fun era
23 likesVuk Belcevic
10 likesIronic
Maybe the drama was just fun. Maybe we prefer the Leafy era simply because he was more vulnerable. The Paul’s are basically untouchable because YouTube is really catering to them (even though they are arguably worse than Leafy).
5 likesBut Twitter is a small crack of hope (probably because I saw Jake block someone once but still).
You probably forgot then that Leafy was a borderline cyberbully while the Paulers are vloggers and when they actually do insult other people they say it in a joking way thats funny in itself. Watch KSI vs Jake Paul on that stage video. Im sure KSI isn't too offended when Jake paul is yelling WALMAART (I don't watch Pauls and all my info on them are from pewdiepie vids)
1 likeLeafy never recorded dead bodies or was never nearly as cocky as the Paul brothers. Lol
0 likesLeafyisback.
1 likeI still don't understand how a guy like Keemstar gets views. He is a horrible person and 'news' provider.
11 likesAlso, I do remember Leafy posting a YouTube rant.
If leafy didn’t quit and continued uploading I feel like his views and subs would keep going down. If he ever came back I feel like his numbers would start blowing up again because so many people that hated him or stopped watching him realized how much they missed him now that it’s been over a year since he last uploaded
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xx_barbz_xx true
3 likesI have to agree. Honestly though, even if he came back it would just start the war all over again. We need a new Leafy to rise up while still paying tribute to the original... What if we could get a new Leafy, but they could reference him semi-often and link his channel? That way we get a new Leafy, and Leafy himself could possibly get a sub spike large enough to get his attention?
9 likes@Aryaleef grade under a came back so there is a chance leafy comes back
9 likesI doubt it, YouTube would kill him in the same fashion as Felix, and leafy would have actually deserved it somewhat
12 likes@Aryaleef no one can replace Leafy at least youtube algorithm won't make it happen
0 likes@Shikas Thoughts Watch the keemstar video, he's not
0 likesNow 2 years later...
0 likesI’m not kidding when I say this is one of the most well done videos I’ve ever seen on youtube
6 likesNot anymore 😂
1 likeWill Iddubbz ever get a YouTube Geographic? He's been on a recent downwards spiral?
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Not really though. Its not that controversial that he agrees with his girlfriend sharing lewds for money. The entire controversy is people calling him a cuck and a simp. And its literally not his fault she's behaved in weird/inappropriate ways.
35 likes@Syno Nymous True but iDubbbz's gf has a bigger controversy than iDubbbz himself because of the things she had done.
15 likesppl b like "oh no idubbz is literally a martyr now bc his gf is doing something the incels dont agree with "
13 likesS*I*M*P
2 likesim gonna make a youtube geographic called smug the hacker
0 likes"downwards spiral"
5 likesHAHAHAHAH!
a few weeks of kids on the internet using words they don't understand.
If anything he's on an upwards spiral with his new docs.
I no longer agree with this comment. I'm pretty tired when Im going to make this comment so I can't really explain why.
0 likesIirc she also cheated on her previous bf with Ian
1 likeLeafy was the only reason I checked YouTube so often, His edgy rants were just too funny, And the drama that came with it was just hilarious.
189 likesI was never part of his reptile army but you cant deny that it made the site far more interesting.
It is kinda sad that YouTube killed his channel, when I was still subbed his videos were never recommended, his channel was unfindable. If that block wasn't on his channel he would have undoubtedly hit close to 10M today.
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He is making a slow but calculated return... the king will be back
22 likesMr Evo he’s back an uploading videos everyday
3 likesHe bac
2 likesAnd now he got terminated
4 likesLunarツ yeah
0 likesLunarツ we still have his Twitter tho
0 likesI don't know about Leafy but I heard some guy called "Lucky" is similar wink wink
0 likesThis aged as well as the world peace after ww1
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only on a few points like "minecraft would never be popular again" and that leafy would never come back, the rest however still age like wine
113 likesXXMODZ HAXSXX Minecraft is still not as popular, and will likely never be dude
6 likesXXMODZ HAXSXX Look at google trends, your living on a rock my guy
4 likes@You Reply You Gay all right fine, your right statistically. However, Emplemon treated it as if Minecraft would never recover its popularity which as it appears through out 2016 to 2018 Minecraft’s popularity has gone down a curve, but ever since May of last year (Minecraft’s 10th anniversary) it has been recovering into popularity. Sure it’s not as popular than before, but you cannot deny it is recovering.
51 likesYep
1 like@XXMODZ HAXSXX Yeah Leafy even admitted the main reason he quit wasn't ridicule or haters, it was his videos having shit performance and youtube giving him a hard time
12 likes@You Reply You Mad its pretty close to its former popularity, like 0.75x the size
1 likeIronic consider that EmperorTigerstar compared Youtube Drama of 2016 to World War One.
2 likesAaaaaand he got deleted
28 likes@Trevor Dillon Becuase "the big brother" delete him.
3 likes@MMFan2004 "it always ends the same way, like the titanic, doomed to fail" aged like fine wine after the ban.
17 likesThis comment aged as well as the world Peace after ww1
34 likes@Jacob Ringenwald yes yes it did.
4 likesThis comment aged as well as the world peace after ww1
15 likes@Thomas Gibbs only because YouTube just decided to put Leafy out and not because of Leafy himself tbf
1 likeAnd now it has aged as well as the finest italian wine.
13 likesNot anymore!
3 likesLeafy’s channel recently got deleted by YouTube itself, so it may not have aged entirely poorly
1 likeHe needs to make a follow up on this video
0 likesRedditors when someone doesn’t like minecraft:
2 likes@You Reply You Mad the player count hasn't stopped going up since the game came out. Less people are googling minecraft but more are playing it.
0 likesRemember Leafys YT channel? Yeah, I do too
2 likesWhen he put leafys intro 16 minutes in the video the nostalgia hit me like a truck, long live leafy...
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cranky gzuz gay lol
1 likeI never thought a geographic could be this interesting. Props to you.
0 likesLeafy being back isn't inherently bad. His toxic fanbase sorta mellowed out. You still get some dickheads, but that goes for every fanbase. The drama that will come of this will certainly be entertaining.
12 likesi feel like youtube is censoring you bro. your spitting straight facts and getting millions of views. this is the first time ive seen this video. 2 years later
1 likeWow... I can't believe I only found this video now. It took YT 2 years to get this recommended to me. This is one of my favorite videos of all time because it's so analytical and I grew up during this time of YT. This video so so amazing. Adding it to my fav/best TY video playlist.
0 likesLess than 2 years later and leafy is coming back and iDubbbz is a "simp"
42 likesEven though he definitely was out of the bubble when all of the YouTube drama transpired, I would've loved to see you talk about Cr1tikal, who similarly went from gaming to edgy commentary
1 likeWhat I don’t understand is that now he’s come back to youtube everyone started calling him a king and being so happy he was back.. like wtf you hated him when he was here but now you suddenly think he was the best YouTube to exist??
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It's because a lot of people grew up with his videos. We didn't like him because others didn't or others liked him but there voices weren't loud enough. I think most people that are happy he is back are people who miss the days of YouTube where you didn't have to worry about what you were saying as much, when it comes to the platform/ads not the people. You also didn't have to worry about being demonitized for one small thing. When YouTube was for the people.
23 likesNow YouTube is against the people, you can't make mature content because you won't get money, and now you can't make family friendly content because you won't get as much money and your comments are disabled. The way Leafy plays into this is his demeanor he acts like he doesn't care because he doesn't, he "hates" his viewers and YouTube. He probably doesn't actually hate his viewers but he definitely does hate where YouTube is and people agree.
His return which who knows if he'll actually stay or not, was "calculated" as many say. When in reality it was just an opportunity for him to make a quick video to jump on the bandwagon.
Whether people liked Leafy before or not is irrelevant because a lot of people seen him or knew something about him and now to said people he kind of represents the disdain towards YouTube many have.
I will say personally I watched him while growing up and can say that in a way YouTube during the days of Leafy was better, not because of Leafy, but because the platform itself was better.
That's my take at least.
*inspiring
0 likesLeafy is much more down to earth now. I never liked his videos back in 2016, I'm more of a pyrocynical guy. But I love his recent videos, he sounds very calm and he doesn't stretch
3 likes@MCnierstenen personal growth is real, people change for better or worse, many really don't believe that but they should
6 likes@Dank Fontaine it's like h3h3, who's become completely out of touch
8 likes@Dank Fontaine So admitting that you're behaving badly makes you better?
0 likesI've always liked Leafy, it's just in the last 2 years it's more acceptable to say so.
1 likeMan your stuff is soooo good wtf. Love these YouTube style docs
0 likesYes, the systems of Youtube did and to a lesser extent do still promote toxic content. But, I do still think that they should be condemned for their toxicity and harm.
0 likesI honestly watched leafy until he stopped posting and I had to go to his account directly to even know he posted anything. I can definitely see the truth in this.
0 likesActually, i was subbed to leafy and i do remember towards the end of his channel, i would check on his channel and see several videos uploaded that i hadn't seen due to it not being recommended. Damn, your theory might be true!
1 likeLeafy is the villain we need, but not the one we deserve.
2 likes5:50
0 likes"It would never again be as popular."
That statement aged like milk, tbh.
HOLY SHIT!! He’s back! Or it’s the best April fools joke ever.
0 likesThis didn't age well. Captain sparkez is loving this Minecraft boom we're having. My boy Jordan doing fantastic
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Well..
2 likesWell...
3 likesAnd he died again.
4 likes50:35
0 likesSo what you’re saying is...
There will NEVER EVER be another channel like Leafyishere?
It's like he had such a nice and good pit pup to care for, but instead he taught it bad behavior and pretty much turned it into a face eating machine, then threw his hands up, like, "Wup! I have no control of this face eating machine! What am I to do??" I don't know, maybe he could've changed his ways that turned his beautiful pit into a face eating machine, but no. He
0 likesneveraltered his behavior. Basically comes back with a "no u" comeback, like what?You know, it’s sad. So many commentary channels make their rise on criticism of others. They grow their popularity fast, and eventually are taken down by a new, up and coming commentary channel. It’s and endless cycle of rises to power, and destruction.
1 likeLeafy is back from the grave and idubbz reputation as "the content cop" is at it's grave.
0 likesThis is hands down the greatest video of all time
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Thiccboi 32 no it’s not
0 likesThe mighty have fallen. H3H3....idubbbz....and from the ashes rises the once notorious juggernaut we all thought died. Welcome back leafy, you are finally here.
0 likesFunny how suddenly everyone is back on Leafys side. Like Idubbbz making one mistake suddenly justifies all of Leafys shitty behaviour and makes Idubbbz criticisms suddenly invalid.
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Yes
1 likeEh i like to see youtube dramas like wrestling idubbz and ethan turned heel and now act holier than thou and leafy sorta came back after a hiatus and is niw seen as a face despite being an asshole, kinda like the rock vs. Stone cold steve austin
2 likesThe Overlander
1 likeIdubbzzz’s girl hit on leafy and several other men. So there is that
@Giga Chad ik
0 likes"Minecraft hit its peak in Summer 2013, it would never be as possible" that aged pretty well
0 likesi gotta say. I never paid any attention to ricegum after the aftermath of his content cop
1 like"Minecraft peaked at summer 2013"
5 likesGuess he didnt see 2019 minecraft renaissance coming
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Minecraft is not as popular as it used to be, you can see it yourself in google trends
3 likesThe peak was still summer 2013, the summer 2020 spike didn't reach anywhere close to 2013
5 likesDon’t ever make a deal with the devil, dark forces will always betray you. That’s my take away.
1 likeThis manages to make a fascinating story out of shit I don't care about.
0 likesBy the bye, how the hell did Keemstar make a comeback?
kinda ironic now, given that everyone is flaming idubbz now...including leafy
2 likesIn recent knews he has started uploading again after 2 years, all new videos haveing around 3 million views. Still within his sub base and not outreaching.
0 likes28:38 Wait, he didn't actually peak on September 11th, did he?
1 like15:02
0 likesSo nasty that it's probably somewhat of a travesty having me
Daily told the people "You can call me Your Majesty!"
Keep your battery charged
You know it won't stick, yo
And it's not his fault you kick slow
Should've let your trick 'ho chick hold your sick glow
Plus nobody couldn't do nothin' once he let the brick go
And you know I know that's a bunch of snow
The beat is so butter
Peep the slow cutter
As he utter the calm flow (Your mother)
Don't talk about my moms, yo
Sometimes he rhyme quick, sometimes he rhyme slow
Or vice versa
Whip up a slice of nice verse pie
Hit it on the first try
Villain: the worst guy
Spot hot tracks like spot a pair of fat asses
Shots of the scotch from out of square shot glasses
And he won't stop 'til he got the masses
And show 'em what they know not through flows of hot molasses
Do it like the robot to headspin to boogaloo
Took a few minutes to convince the average bug-a-boo
It's ugly, like look at you
It's a damn shame
Just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name
Love your use of sick tunes in your vids.
Holy shit. idubbbz getting dragged to hell by Leafy and Keemstar.
0 likesIt feels like the Wild West (RDR1): the law wins and then years later gets killed by the last trace of outlaws
emp you have some great music taste
1 like"why google+ is shit"
1 likeNow that could be a whole other video...
We need an update. Leafy might be rising from the depths.
0 likesHe fell a villian.
1 likeA hero now rises from the grave.
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He will fall a villain once more.
0 likesIn a couple of weeks.
Leafy is the lizard that never really died after being cut so many times
0 likesThis goes to show you that Leafy's Fanbase is strong
Something's wrong, i can feel it
1 likeConsidering recent circumstances, I'm thinking he's back.
0 likesThe nostalgia bro i watched al of that live
1 likeHe’s back.
1 likeThe 4th seal has been broken.
It’s so weird watching this video again now knowing that captain sparkles made a resurrection of sorts and leafy has started uploading small 3 minute videos again.
0 likes28:42 This was the peak of leafys empire .........well thats no longer true
0 likesAt the very least, idubbbz causes channels to change. Tana went on to team up with Jake Paul, FineBros had to back off their copyright thing. Leafy and the prank guy could not adapt. Also specifically on leafy, his fan base looked to top dog, and the content cop showed be was not and it was easy for his fans to turn on him.
0 likesthank god youtube was able to keep toxic ass Redditors and 4chan users off the site by killing leafy
0 likes"Minecraft would never reach that popularity ever again"
1 likeSo wrong my friend
I hope he comes back.
0 likesIf people stick around after you say “pls unsubscribe”
0 likesyou have two types of subscribers:
- those 100% dedicated to you
- near ghosts
EMPL: Minecraft would never be as popular Pewdiepie: Hold my beer
0 likes2016: LeafyIsGone
0 likes2020: LeafyIsBack
When there's a cliffhanger hinting towards better but you're only 10 minutes in
0 likesAlright i didn't watch this video i just watched the intro, and personally i was subscribed to leafy when he had 10k subscribers and i stop supporting him because he completely change with fame
0 likesWhen I first heard the gran turismo background music I was like: do I know this song? Why does it make me feel nostalgic? When I checked the songs list and saw that it was from gran turismo I had my entire childhood rush back into my head. Gg on the music choice.
0 likes41:00 I mean the one video he made recently apparently got demonitized which fits the theory
0 likesDude we should get a part 2 of how Leafy's trying to come back using IDubbbz' L
0 likeswell the story goes on now...
1 likeLeafyishere is a great mystery a kid who wanted to be like someone famous and he took youtube like a game but he should take it more serious and he should have learnd from people like pyrocynical or elvisthe alien but he didnt know how to be a normal youtuber which got him viral and dead
0 likesIdubbz video couldn’t have killed him. It was mostly focused on his physical appearance and didn’t talk much h abs out why his channel was so bad so fans who watched it wouldn’t have been like ‘oh he has no chin, unsubscribe’
0 likesI'm just about to start the video. I wonder if I'll be as invested in this as much as I was invested in the Hungrybox video. (Started with no context for both)
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Okay, i'm back, and i am equally invested. Probably won't get into youtube drama videos, as i got into some smash bros videos. But we all just gotta respect the Emp in his production and content creation process. All of it. God
1 likethat is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die for leafy has returned
3 likesOh boy how the tables have turned on content cop. Hehehe.
1 like5:50 that aged poorly
0 likesNot anymore when you search leafy it actually shows leafy now
5 likesHe literaly started posting this month, wtf
1 likeOh the sweet sweet irony of it all...
2 likesThis prompted me resubbing to leafy. May the dark lizard rise once again
0 likesLeafyWasHere Shall Be His New Name...
2 likesthis video almost makes yuh feel bad for him
0 likes01:14
2 likesOh... How the tables have turned
Chapter XII: Now Leafy is coming back from the grave, sub count intact, millions of views, youtube has fucked up
0 likesThis is one of my favorites vídeos of all time
1 likeemp needs to rename this to "Leafy is Here" now
1 likeWhen this video is dated even though it's only a year old
0 likesi just wanna know if leafy has seen this video lol
0 likesAnd here we are now. Minecraft has reclaimed its popularity amongst the average YouTube users, with all the youtubers who stuck with it reaping the fame, and Leafy made a short comeback, all just to call Idubbbz a simp.
2 likesBoth leafy and idubbbz can recover and both are in the right/wrong.
0 likesI guess Jesus really did come back on Easter, Leafy.
0 likesHow do you get away with using so much DOOM?
0 likes"Minecraft Would Never Be As Popular"
0 likesMmMmMmM About That...
Can you do a video about the return of leafy
3 likesSome rapper said it best
1 likeNot one man should have all that poowah....
and so these were the early warning signs of youtube censorship shenanigans....
0 likesAnd now he has 4 mil.
0 likesMinecraft will never be as popular? I thought it recently hit its peak
2 likesWho's here after the return of our dark savior, leafy?
1 likethrew the MF DOOM line in there quality shit at 16:19
0 likesLeafy is what got me into surfing
0 likesNow he's risen from the dead...
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Hissss
1 likeA superhero tale wouldn't be interesting without a villain.
0 likesWhat an interesting theory
0 likes14:40 just remember all caps you when spell the mans name
1 likeEDIT: aha they say it later anyway
...so about that Content Cop...
1 likeAnd then he rose again
0 likesYou were right all along...
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Leafy said he would go on youtube for fun
0 likes@AlarioDerpp_Control000 AA I'm saying that the conclusion - that Leafy was actively censored by YouTube - was 100% correct when we look at his return.
1 like13:42 damn those bars
0 likes7:42 That looks familiar...
1 likeholy shit using ALL CAPS in the background is genius
0 likesOh, somwthing tells me he's still around
0 likesHE’S HERE
0 likesLol h3 is a sneaky you know who.
1 likeBetter update the video or release a new one.
0 likesTwo years later and the table is turning.
0 likesleafy is patient 0 of the demonetization virus
0 likesthis video didnt age well
0 likesall i have to say is how dare you call skydoesminecraft burgerking im baffled
0 likesAnd now leafy is back on youtube
0 likesh3h3 was never good lmao
2 likesALL CAPS when you spell the man name
1 likeLeafy coming back and iddubz transforming into a corncob was not what i thought would follow this video
0 likesLittle does he know, but only fans will start the 2nd youtube war
0 likesThe story continues??
0 likes"declining minecraft game" lol
0 likesHe's back.
0 likesyeah leafy dunking on idubbz with one sentence appeared in my recommendations and I never watched one of his videos up until that one.
1 likehe's here again
1 likeAnd now he is back...
0 likesYoutube did the same to logan
0 likesHe stopped the bleeding
0 likesNow he’s bacc :D
0 likesMY BOY IS BACK
1 likeHe’s back
0 likesLeafy is back, while idubbbz is down, emp was correct
0 likesthe hunter become the prey
0 likes31:48 oh shit its that guy i dont watch anymore
0 likesHe back. Leafy is here.
1 likeJokes on us
4 likesThis is LITERALLY the best video about this subject on the entire planet!
43 likesHow long did it take to make this?
4 likesHad to have been weeks! - masterfully made.
All the editing and music choices had to have taken days by themselves, let alone the research, scripting, theorizing etc.
A well- earned sub.
You’re the content detective
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he's the youtube detective
5 likesleafy's back here
0 likesI distinctly remember watching a few of his videos back in 2013-2014 when he was at about 15k or so... but i never stuck with him because his MCPVP stuff wasnt the type i liked to watch, but he was one of the larger MCPVP youtubers, even with 15k.
3 likesThen i forgot about him for awhile, and thought he faded into obscurity just like the rest of them.
I was wrong.
After over a year, i started seeing drama with this big youtuber with a familiar name, but that was it. I checked through his videos and found no minecraft content, but then heard a reference to his past in another video about him. Boom, we got our suspect.
That was one of the coolest encounters ever on youtube, it really is such a huge place with millions of channels... but someones one will do something crazy like this- and im glad to say i was there for pretty much all of it.
not gonna lie lowkey miss his mental breakdowns
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უწმინდური მამაო ღორმენ (
0 likesFellow georgian?
0 likesconfirmed
0 likesUpdate to this video would be the fact minecraft's recent resurgence especially due to the quarantine.
0 likesI remember around when the HISS stuff showed up was when I found leafy. I thought some of his stuff was funny enough, and so every night when I went to bed I would crawl under the covers with my phone, watch his daily upload, and then go to sleep. I didn't pay much attention to the drama, and I wasn't a rabid fan, harassing the youtubers he roasted (or even looking up their content). I've suffered from mental illness since I was young; something about how he would have these harsh, emotional reactions to fairly benign content was comforting to me. Kind of like how tennis balls in a dryer keep clothes from getting wadded together, his yelling would get my mind unwadded enough to sleep.
28 likesEventually, life changed, my going-to-sleep routine changed, and I stopped watching. At some point, peer pressure got me to unsubscribe, but I'll check in on his channel occasionally. If he ever does come back, I'll be curious to see just what we get.
this is great. i love youtube documentaries
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agreed
3 likesI never understood why he used a picture of tetra
0 likesThis is like watching a National Geographic documentary about the 80's
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Danwin But better!
0 likesI was thinking the same thing lol
0 likesthe 2015s
0 likesi feel like a YouTube intellectual after this thank you
15 likesi feel like its only 10 minutes video for how good it was
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What?
0 likesIt went by fast because it was fun to watch so it felt like 10 minutes
21 likesDJ Creampie o
0 likesDJ Creampie
0 likesyup
#ATTENDTHEAFGHANISTAN
0 likestounsi? (ken tounsi ta3ref mr syrus)?
0 likesGang weed gamers rise up
0 likesleafy came back and so did minecraft hmmmmm.
1 likeAye i saw that simpsons hit and run. Good man
1 likeEmp lemon mysteriously found dead in his apartment with an demontisation logo painted on his chest
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He went too deep.
3 likesA not an
3 likes@Maniac Marcus he shot himself 2 times while jumping out of a window.
1 likeYou know, you actually kinda made me feel bad for Leafy, I wouldn't say I ever hated him or disliked him really, more of indifference.. but now after watching this whole thing you do kind of have to feel for him and almost feel for anyone else who has tried to make it big on this platform. I know for me for years I felt the same way to try to be big, got 100+ subs on my first channel at the age of 14, eventually after not uploading for a while, I knew that my videos weren't getting views so thinking I would have been better off made a new channel.. desperately trying to get that fame, even making random group channels with friends that only lasted for a couple months. But now that I hit the age of 18 almost 19 I've kinda realized that the fame isn't always going to be there or even close. I still make videos every once in a while.. not really trying to become famous, but because I love to work with video and making thumbnails. I just wish I had something better to do videos on then video games..maybe one day.
49 likesThis comment was actually suppose to start out about just Leafy haha, but some how I dived into how I feel and stuff. If anyone did actually read this thanks for reading and have a great day!
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Yee Olde Duck! Anyone trying to get big online should know the risks attached to it.
1 likeFeeling bad for him is pointless. He knew what he was getting into and he simply gave no fucks. Consequences followed.
Yee Olde Duck! Same here. Been on YouTube since April, 2015. It's definitely been a struggle.
0 likesProjectiluvOP actually not really leafy didn't know he was gonna get attacked by Idubbbz but then again his fans were awful
0 likesYee Olde Duck! This video made me dislike him even more tbh.
0 likesUnidentifed Flying Object he's a really good youtuber
0 likesProjectiluvOP consequences? He only got famous and then fell back to a normal life
0 likesIt's not like he ruined his life
Wednesday Was The Last yeah hope he makes more vids but yeah he has 5-6million dollars he should be enjoying life now
0 likesI do feel the same. I've had this same account since the end of 2014 and i never got a decent following so i just decided to upload on it when i felt like it.
0 likesHOWEVER, what i haven't told in this comment is that i do have a 2nd channel that actually has a more decent amount of views on it. I started it in mid 2016 and i uploaded android app APKs/Hacks and some pc hacks. As of now, the channel has 231k views and 585 subscribers. Some videos have around 1k, 5 others have 10k-100k and about half of the other videos have 100-300 views so it was a hit or miss. I realized in late 2017 that it was the ridiculously easy and low effort way of getting attention, so i practically stopped other than except for a couple more uploads that came after that.
I also got like 3-4 copyright strikes (obviously i did, i was posting hacks) so i just decided that it wasn't worth it, and I've learnt my lesson.
Lol he's back
1 likeYou told this story very well, good job on this video. If there's one thing I've learned from you is that you should consider what would happen after you become famous. Shame leafy ended like this. He could have been one who could be a visual dream come true to show everyone that it is possible to reach fame. He shouldn't have converted to the church of cringe like this.
10 likesthank you for being the only one to accurately tell what happened
40 likesJust as you've pivoted from YTP to more commentary based content, I hope you keep pivoting! As long as you keep employing your ytp editing techiniques every now and again, I think you'll just keep rising and doing well on this platform. Really enjoy all your content!
4 likesBoy do I have NEWS for you
0 likesCongrats. Senpai noticed you
2 likesThis video wont go viral. It's too long for the kids.
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Meme Boi that's very true
4 likesYep. :')
0 likesEducational system lowering attention span.
8 likesThat and leafy himself is dead so no one really cares what happen to him
2 likesgreen of tree black of blue I'm glad I'm not the only person who watched it all the way through.
0 likesI can tell this person doesn’t like leafy
0 likesWow, an hour. Somehow i felt it was over too soon. I used to love leafy, then not so much, then again, and then i didnt care anymore. Its crazy to see what happened. Like, just like the people who he made videos on, he was a real guy. I wonder if he's doing alright for himself.
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same i kinda dislike him but a little part in me misses him and still likes him. i hope that he's happy now, idk.
7 likesI personally don’t like leafy or his content but man the end of this video kinda made me feel for the dude, anyone else feel this way?
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He may have been the toxic and annoying kid we will all remember him by, but he was just a content creator trying to make it big in the game. Of course the end of the video will make you feel sympathetic for him; he was just doing what he can to get noticed. And unfortunately, his own newfound power is what killed him in the end.
20 likesZamzon Agreed, we have to remember that he was 20.
5 likesHe has been Inmortalized. In the end, he did some bad actions, but he died of the unknown
3 likesNot really. 20 is young, but he's still an adult, and it's certainly old enough to know that making fun of children (and in most cases autistic people) on the internet is pathetic. He had months where people tried to snap him out of it, and teach him that what he's doing was nasty and self-destructive, but he just ignored it all because he liked being vile to people. And everyone else is only gonna put up with that for so long. Dude needed to learn he can't play in the kiddie pool forever.
5 likesLet's be real, he fuckin' knew. He went out of his way to rip on people who acted/seemed autistic. He went for people who acted 'weird' or 'cringe', people who were intense over specific 'cringe' interests, and were obviously socially impaired. We know in the case of that one dude because he actually replied to leafy and his fans while most didn't, but if you went through the a list of everyone leafy made fun of for cheap laughs, you'd find a lot more autistic/aspergers/whatever. It was his main demographic to pick on, because he knew his fanbase found picking on autistic people fun. He used autistic as an insult. He was a little shit and he never grew out of being a little shit.
2 likesHere's what I think:
1 likeWhether or not he was sincere about what he put out, I don't know. But he found out what worked, and he ran with it. His cynical, edgy attitude towards most things resonated with youtubes biggest demographic: teenage boys. I found the sweet spot and milked that shit.
Despite the warnings, despite the criticisms, he kept on. It got him views and subs, honestly what young man wouldn't keep on?
Addy White you’re right, the saddest part for me I suppose is that he’s built up a fan base, as annoying as they are, and just left them with no warning, no goodbye and no reason, just disappeared. I do hope he is well too
0 likesMost of the stuff he reacted to was from r/cringe on Reddit. Did he do his research on the people in the videos? No. Did he pay for it? Yes. Did he learn from it? Kind of.
1 like"what young man wouldn't keep on" one with common decency.
0 likeshes back
0 likesI honestly wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years, we get a Leafy biopic movie in the form of a Shakespearean tragedy.
20 likesDamn, I actually miss leafy
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deep down most do. I hate the dude, but fuck did shit take a dark turn when he got axed.
9 likesnostalgia
1 like@emplemon hes back
0 likesDid I really just watch an hour of this? I thought it was 21 minutes not 51 minutes.
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Cool Kid same
1 likewait what
1 likeits 51 minutes
A quick hour. Solid content. More YouTube Geographic please!!!
1 likeHi buddy
0 likesrekkter this is why emplemon’s video’s are great. they keep you captivated
1 likeDamn that’s how we recognize good content
4 likesHey man this is a REALLY good video
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he keeps making incredibly good videos. Every video of his I've watched so far were REALLY good. I've watched only 3, but they were long videos.
4 likesyeah this is by far my fav video of his, i had never thought of the statement that leafy achieved everyone's dream, becoming a big youtuber, then not knowing how to handle it. but that's fucking deep
0 likes@lewdmeat my fav is still the donald trump one
0 likesMichael&Jello aa
0 likesTop 10 anime comebacks.
0 likesWish leafy would come back. I can't believe he is still gone.
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It would be cool to see him back
0 likesHes back lol
0 likesLeafy was, well, it’s hard to say. There were a lot of channels who have died out and fell into the darkness. But leafy’s case is one of the most unique in the history of youtube. Leafy’s rise and fall is a really deep metaphor if you think about it. I really pity him after watching this. I used to be a part of the brainless edgy teens who watched him. Then I realized all the shady and cruel methods he used to get to where he is. Then I realized how bad his content actually was. I guess it can be used as a metaphor for how power can go in the wrong hands. Leafy had a lot of potential. But he let it slip, and blew it. And he only realized until it was too late.
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Why pity? He's rich he probably doesn't have to work for the rest of his life
0 likesI think its more of a metaphor for herd mentality and people glorifying genuine assholes
0 likesLeafy is here again
1 likeBrilliant. Absolutely Brilliant.
15 likesI used to watch Leafy back in the day until i, myself, noticed that he began uploading the same Individually targeted content over and over again. Sooner or later, i got bored of it, eventually unsubscribing to him and never returning to his channel again.
2 years have since surpassed and I'd never imagine that any of these things would occur the way they did. Then again, you could say he deserved it.
I have to say, this video has single-handedly brought so much light and has answered so many of my questions regarding Leafy and his past that it absolutely mesmerizes me.
You Sir, have done a fantastic job and i don't think it could have been put together any better.
Thank you for that.
This may be the most well-done video I may have ever seen on this platform. Great job Lemon.
4 likesHE'S BACK BOIS
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gross.
0 likesCrazy how a video can make you feel nostalgic over something that happened only 2 years ago. Great work on this, it was very well put together!
4 likesCan't believe Mr. BlackDarkness666 took down Leafy.
329 likesLeafyIsBack
1 likeLeafyIsBack
1 likeI think the most interesting aspect of Leafy's downfall is that Pyrocynical and NFKRZ to not go down with him. They were smart enough to diversify their content.
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Calvin_Coolage Exactly. Pyrocynical especially. His channel has diversified heavily. From his less clickbaity videos, to his straight up gameplay videos, to his hour plus long videos on things like Petscop and Cuphead.
14 likesI think if Leafy had been confident enough to go facecam he would have survived, whenever he posted after the content cop his most popular vids were always facecams. I think he was just a shy kid.
5 likesPyrocynical has become something incredible.
2 likesUm well you see the thing is...
1 likeAs a former loyal fan (i would eat all the shit he would put out daily) i can say that for me it wasn't YouTube recommendations that stopped me from watching him, it was the lack of originality, quality, personality and most importantly entertainment. From what i remember i used to like his videos cause they were to me interesting and entertaining videos displaying some sort of humor and interesting internet personalities and trends, in the same vain as tosh.0, i even became attached to his "personality", but eventually his content became too stale to me, i don't even know if it was the content itself or if it was me who grew out of it but i started to perceive his content as just boring and pointless videos of a guy making obvious and exaggerated observations as an attempt at comedy while showing most of the time uninteresting videos, it came to the point where before i completely stopped watching his videos, i would have to put the video on 2x speed to improve the horrible pasting of the video, it would generally just be him making and constantly repeating unfunny comments to get the video to 10 mins and it got to the point where it was painfully unbarring to watch his videos even at 2x speed, i didn't got entertainment out of it, i didn't got knowledge out of them so it just felt like i was wasting my time watching them, at which point i just quit watching. There were and still are commentary type youtubers who i still watch and none of their content feels as lifeless as leafywashere's.
44 likesIn my opinion Leafy was the main culperate in the death of his channel by not adapting to make more vast content, having awfully stale editing and pacing and getting lazy, making uninspired and unentertaining videos.
P.S.- I was never one of those retards who would harass the people who he would make "content" on, even being a dumb edgy 16 yr old with horrible taste in content i knew better then to take time off my day to bully awkward and misfortunate people for the crime of posting a cringy video on the internet.
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Exactly, basically if you've seen one leafyishere's video you've seen them all, it sucks the life out of you to sit through a multitude of his "content".
1 likeI found Leafy through Pyro and I found Pyro through h3 and I found h3 through Frank. I was one of those people who would leave the toxic comments on Leafy's victims.
0 likesIts good that you can admit that
1 likeThe summer of 2016 was the only time that I was ever dedicated to watching everything in my sub box. It was a better time then.
0 likesvocalweeb You seem like you've matured out of that behavior since you can acknowledge it as toxic so i don't mean to judge, but why did you feel the need to do that?
1 likeAndré Afonso It was part of the fun of being a preteen on the internet. No repercussions, plus mob mentality validated doing it in large groups.
0 likesi'm from the future
0 likesminecraft returned
BoJack Horseman theme and all caps best is beautiful
0 likesoh, that gorgoeueoes gran turismo 5 intro song,
0 likesmy only love
I used to watch leafy back in 6th and 7th grade
35 likesThe irony is that his videos are historic and nostalgic
That’s the point it’s crazy!!!!
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No a bunch of edgy kids at my school watched him
0 likesEver watched or read something so good, you'd just be sitting there in silence when you're done?
27 likesyeah. Great video
I am so happy i subscribed to leafy from like, his early commentary videos, every video he made was very original and very funny for me, he also cured me from some depression cycles and helped me go on with my life at some points aswel (with other things aswel) I did get recommendations for his videos daily but I am so sad and emotional about this topic now, this shouldn't happen, leafy was a good part of youtube and I wish his life is good and happy and I wish him all the best
10 likesThe part at 26:44 is honestly amazing. The song and theme is so perfect. Fantastic video as always Emp.
9 likesWhat's that epic beat at @29:50 ????
0 likesI forgot about Poodlecorp, channel hacks used to be a huge thing and isn't anymore.
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2 factor authentication stepped in.
1 likeThe guys behind PoodleCorp and Lizard Squad got arrested by FBI in Oct '16 due to various other shenanigans. The whole fiasco they caused also sensitized many people and companies to shield their assets more thoroughly against social engineering.
0 likesThis video is Netflix documentary material.
23 likesLeafyIsBackSortof
2 likesWow. I thought this was gonna be a vid repeating everything we already knew about the situation, but instead it gives a very good insight on the legitimate cause of demise.
7 likesBut I have to say.... Why no mention of the Nick Cash situation? I feel like that would have been a very good precursor to showing Leafy off as the snake he is, as a real person, and not just a persona of someone being a dick.
gradeAunderA is the switzerland in this war
0 likesI love how professional this is, very well done.
4 likesIncredible video. And I think it might have a point with YouTube targeting leafy specifically. After all, some very big youtubers that are still relevant today regularly get demonetized because they create controversies often. Given who leafy was, controversies were a given.
7 likesHowever, as other commenters said, I think that doesn't explain alone how, for example, Keemstar is still alive and well. YouTube may have targeted him in particular, but if they also did that with Keemstar, you need to add other elements that probably caused his demise. The content cop, I think, may have sparked a lot of opposition and mockery that leafy never had to live through. Suddenly a lot of people, including very influential ones, were against him. He was attacked, mocked and ridiculed. Like many bullies, leafy doesn't like to be targeted himself and handles it very poorly, which he did. Everyone was giving him shit, his reputation was dirtied, and since he was no longer the all-powerful guy he was for a moment, he got frustrated and, not having the means to salvage his name, just left.
Also, I get the point about the dude having been original and a breath of fresh air compared to other very similar looking channels on Youtube, but let's get real here : the air he brought with him smelled of a rotten basement, and his bullying and personal attacks on helpless dudes will not be missed.
Guess now leafyishere is back it kinda puts a hole in your theory. Still a great video tho.
0 likesI was a leafy sub back when he was active and i still sometimes watch his videos back (yes i have no life) since i just miss his sarcastic humor that i fcking loved. He just had the same opinion on so many cringy things then i had, what made him really sympathic for me.
15 likesI would definatly agree on your idea of what happed to leafy (that yt shutted him down)
and i think i whittnest an even worse thing the fact that his videos never ever got recommended or popped up of you searced for his name.
At some point, youtube just stopped showing his videos in my subscriber box (is it called like that in english?).
I had no idea why this happend until i watched this video.
Could it not also be some illuminati shit from youtube?
Btw this is worse than it sounds
since this ment that I never got reminded from youtube that leafy exists in any case.
The only way that I would watch a video from him was when i remembered him from myself and clicked on his chanel to look of there are new videos from him.
This made it really easy to forget to watch him even as a subscriber.
Due to the length of the video, I know that not many people will watch it full, but I’m about 30 minutes in and it’s a great video. Thanks for the research, Emp. You’re the channel this site needs.
3 likesThis video aged well.....
2 likesI feel like I actually learned something here. Fantastic video, Emp. Well worth the hour. Fuck, I might just watch it again because it was so good.
8 likes<3
so are we going to talk about scrubby?
0 likesI do firmly believe that everything you said about YouTube directly killing Leafys channel is true. Everytime I was 3 video in a row about a certain subject, all kinds of recommendations regarding it, but recently, I have been rewatching leafy videos and not a single one in my recommendations...
8 likesPerhaps Leafy's one-off videos will breathe some more life into this masterpiece video. Still one of my favourites from you Emp.
10 likesI keep coming back to this video, it's well researched and crafted. It's honestly one of my favorite videos on YouTube, thank you for this Emp.
0 likesThis was literally the Golden Age of Youtube in my opinion. I. Loved. This.
1 likeIn before Leafy makes a huge comeback by getting true payback against idubbbz
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Wow you just predicted the future
84 likesare you psychic
26 likesDude....
9 likesWait what
10 likesf o u r h o u r s b e f o r e
38 likesAHHHHHHHHH
6 likes@LointMoint Just to clarify Keemstar made a video saying that Leafy was planning on a creating a response. Still called it though :)
47 likesI wouldn’t call that payback. That was pretty pathetic. Honestly all of this hype is pathetic. Half of you nerds already paid for his girls onlyfans.
44 likes@ZchryPlys u may like it or hate it this guy is spiting facts
2 likesI wouldn’t call it facts, its all subjective nonsense
5 likesI mean he’s just gonna day the same thing everyone else says, that he’s a simp hahaha, how often did people call out leafy for a weak chin before idubbz, not many people, but idubbz is called a simp by everyone
6 likes@ZchryPlys I can relate the word "nonsense" with your whole life
2 likesMarcoWasHere lol, are you 15?
4 likes@Ernesto Acosta Everyone has done the no chin thing. Now it's time for iDubbbz to suffer the same fate.
1 likeBut hes not back
1 likeHonestly I wouldn’t call it payback it lasted like a couple weeks and leafy is sucking off keemstar while iddubz is back to normal. Now no hate towards any of them I like iddubz and don’t mind leafy just my thoughts on all of this.
1 likeifilmthings yeah the simp thing isnt funny
4 likesWow, a guy who is comfortable in his gf pursuing a form of income without feeling insecure and understanding relationships are deeper than sexual experience is a "simp"? Y'all need to grow up or take a hard look at your own priorities. A relationship is much more than exclusively seeing their body and realistically, how could people idubbbz will never meet paying to see his gf in photos hurt him? From what I've heard - though I have never been on onlyfans to validate - she has not shown anything more than what you might see at a beach. If you can get paid for that and don't mind sharing it on the internet, why not do it?
6 likesFurthermore, if the guy's in love, then good for him. Why should it bother any of you?
As for Leafy's video, it was highly pointed, providing snippets of info to form a singular narrative, failed to create an argument and was instead solely aimed at insulting idubbbz. For those of you who may have missed it, the point of Idubbbz original focus on insulting Leafy's lack of a chin was a satirical criticism of the childish and immature insults that make up the bulk of Leafy's content. All leafy showed in his response was his lack of growth and continuing insecurities masked with insults.
The fact that anyone roots for Leafy after watching this video showing him constantly punching down is beyond me.
3 likes"true payback" lmao
1 likeIdubbbz brushed that simp meme off like it's nothing. It never made any sense anyway.
Leafy seem to be doubling down on his edge lord persona.
AtomicAcorn I know, lmao
0 likesLike that would ever happen
0 likes@eggo I never thought a guy named "eggo" would make more sense than most of the internet.
0 likesbut here we are
The theory at the end makes more sense and seems to confirm it when Leafy says YouTube is shit and not the community or algorithm.
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Leafy had 4.17M subs before he came back and now as of 29/05/2020 he has 4.56M subs
1 like@GCNElite now he has 0 subs because youtube nuked his whole channel. its ridiculous that you have people like keemstar and the paul brothers who get a slap on the wrist for the stuff they did but leafy loses his whole channel.
1 likesome guy ikr. Leafy should've at least gotten a warning before just taking down his channel out of the blue.
1 like@GCNElite Content cop was his warning
0 likesHe doesnt deserve a platform
well you can probably guess what this comment originally said based on the time i posted it
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@Mikeyreza be careful what you wish for ;)
196 likesIronyAmI he isn’t back, people just wanted a response and he provided.
56 likesHe’s still gone.
He not coming back, he said that he won't be returning to youtube because he hates the site in a recent interview with keemstar.
42 likes@Dipper Jr but then he said he may do it for fun but I'm not sure he's coming back
12 likesHe left again whoopsie
3 likesIf you're talking about Leafy coming back to call iDubbbz a cuck, that's not the real Leafy. Click on his Twitter profile. Go to his YouTube channel. Check his "About" section. It clearly says "PARODY" under his description.
11 likesLeafyisgone forever.
@Dipper Jr Say what you'd like, I don't blame him, being throttled by (possibly) YouTube themselves won't exactly endear you to it.
4 likesminxbee the real channel uploaded though. Twice now
15 likesbahah yes hisssssss
1 like@The Observer he is probably bored on quarantine
3 likesits like 2016...
2 likes@Dipper Jr He's made 2 videos already, so he's back to some degree.
6 likesTimeWarpDrive 77 his ass said in the description "okay last one" that fucking upset me. look I doubt he WONT make new shit but it won't last imo and it's sad. I'm one of those niggas in 2016 saying hiss to ppl 😭
3 likesWhat a world we live in
0 likesMikeyreza the titanic has resurfaced.
1 likegross
0 likes@Mikeyreza No joke, I would.
1 like@Mikeyreza when?
0 likesIronyAmI He isn’t coming back, he’s talked about this, plus he would only get more hate than he already did like before.
0 likesAnd minecraft picked up traction again
0 likes@GreenPigKing lmao hiss
3 likes@Mikeyreza wait, are you idubbz'a girlfriend?
1 likeHe hasn’t made any videos for like 2 years
0 likesLeafyishere2 go check he is actually back XD
0 likesI wish he didn’t
0 likesWell embrace it he is back XD
0 likeswelp time to put it to sleep again i guess
0 likes@Markoss dude he only came back to make a cheap shot on idubbbz because he was still butt hurt
0 likesBarely
0 likeswow... just wow
0 likes@Tkoryam exactly
1 likethe fools thought he would only make two
now he's making stuff on almost a bidaily basis
and 10 minutes
fuck he is getting more powerful
HOLY SHIT
0 likesthanks for notifying me, that's pretty wild. he sounds so different now... edit: hold on that's just a random narrator
THE ENEMY RETURNS!?
0 likes(i actually found out already.)
I´m still a fan of Pyrocynical, though!
0 likes@Barer nope he's back
0 likesBarer WRONGFGF
0 likes@Horrid Stank the comment below would suggest otherwise
0 likes@Horrid Stank you didn't get the joke but ok
0 likes@Horrid Stank you should be getting all the jokes if it's 3am my guy.
0 likesThis bad
0 likesHe’s making 10 minute videos again
0 likes@Barer that didnt age well
0 likes@Barer No, he's back. LOOK he's BACK! THE ROASTER WHO FACED A IRONIC FATE HIS BACK!
0 likesHOW!?
He came back
0 likesAnd he still is cringey
0 likes@Barer nope he's back
0 likes@microptera nope he's back
0 likesEH
0 likes@Barer u sure bout that
0 likesGod dang it Double Tap people Double Tap people
0 likes@Barer hmmm
0 likes@Lol Bro Guess who got 1.9 mil views on a video :)
0 likes@Cool Dude McGee no he didn't
0 likes@Weaboo Flavor lol are you okay 10 year old
0 likes@Edy the lurker lol 2 months late
0 likesBarer Hes back
0 likesAaaaand he is gone
0 likes@Durd Lurd true but i think hes funny. im not a hardcore fanboy but i enjoy it.
0 likesAnd now he’s gone again
0 likesHe got deleted tho
0 likesLeafy gets terminated
0 likes@IronyAml he got terminated :"(
0 likestfw your comment ages badly 😣😣😣😣😣😣
0 likesComing up next: Downfall of Idubbbz | Youtube Geographic
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@Đorđe Rmuš i genuinely can't wait for this. He's fallen down hard, and anissa's actions made him splatter
77 likesWhat makes you say that? If idubbbz is ok with it I don’t think it should matter
43 likes@Đorđe Rmuš simpdubbz
12 likes@AGeneralNerd Joe Agreed, though he's still tonight's big loser.
12 likesSynkhronyze it’s dumb that he is, but yeah
2 likesIn my opinion I agree with Criticalzer0, he's not a simp and if he's okay with his girlfriend selling her Instagram pictures for extra money that's fine. It's literately free cash. The area where Idubbbz failed is defending himself, hes awful. This does not mean that we should label him off a "meme" its mean and your ruining his career.
62 likes@Zandith Shloper Well I mean YouTube is such a volatile career choice in the first place, so...
6 likes@thecheezoftheweek that's not what a Simp is.
5 likesDon't forget that if wasn't for Anisa simping for Leafy,idubbbz probably wouldn't have made a Content Cop.
7 likes@Zandith Shloper The controversy finally helped people realize current idubbbz is a degenerated, coomer shadow of who we saw/knew back in 2016, which is why everyone is saying he's fallen. He and filthy frank and anything4views and the rest of the boys portrayed characters, the worst possible idols, Joji literally describes filthy frank as everything you should not be, and at least to me, it looked like they successfully stayed away from becoming those characters ( or at least pulling the plug before they became them like Joji.) Today though, a lot of idubbbz fans can't say the same for idubbbz.
15 likesAGeneral Nerd they are a couple. They are 2 halves creating a whole. What she does impacts who he is on all sorts of levels.
1 likeHis gf is single handedly crushing idubbz. I think it’s over for him, he’s gunna quit the site like filthy frank at this rate.
Idubbbz did nothing wrong
3 likes@Zandith Shloper yeah free money until ofcourse her onlyfans gets leaked.
0 likes@Low Tier Trash People that say Idubbbz would've made a content cop on her if she wasn't her girlfriend seem to not understand that that would be a horrible idea. Who the hell would watch a content cop on some chick that no one knows?
3 likes@Miraqen It's not just the only fans but Anisa's deceptive and controlling attitude towards idubbbz which idubbbz puts up with for some reason, that's partly why people lost respect for him. He made fun of people with the same amount of absurdity as he is right now, though this isn't the reason I stopped watching him since I'd already stopped watching him for a year and a half, maybe I'm just getting sick of idubbbz as a host. You are right about a lot of people using cuck and simp interchangeably though.
10 likesOh well, I kinda feel bad for poor idubbbz going through his midlife crisis.
1 likeI mostly feel like his recent losses is from lack of content although only fans is def a contributing factor
3 likesNow Leafy has made fun of him and ruined his reputation. Karma is a Bitch.
0 likes@Apache April No, idubbbz involuntarily ruined his own career, leafy just kind of showed up to mock him.
10 likes@lol I suppose "quirky" people, that what you want to hear?
3 likes@Synkhronyze Yeah.
1 likeYay
0 likesFinally
0 likesI hope he doesn't come back like leafy
0 likesThe reason why leafy got his own ep because there was no other youtuber like him
0 likes@Jo Mom Touché
0 likesit's not a fall. it was a red-pilling of his audience how their views differed from his.
3 likesthey made the mistake that everyone who says "SJWs BAD!" is in favor of conservatism. they somehow forgot that many anti-SJWs used to be part of the Atheist community, which at its peak was highly against conservatism. and then broke apart, after Atheism plus, because they basically made the same mistake.
they made the mistake that a common enemy means that there shouldn't be any differences among internal opinions.
@A. 黒沢 I meant that if Anisa didn't simp for Leafy,idubbbz wouldn't have made that content cop on Leafy to begin with.
0 likes@Adcal Well,my bad.
0 likesDid sum one metion Simpiana Jones
0 likes@lol pedostache has been a thing since pedos were around.
0 likes@Synkhronyze still a weird way to say it lmao
0 likes@lol You must be no older than 14 then.
0 likes@Synkhronyze no actually lol
0 likes@lol You above the age of 18?
0 likes@Synkhronyze no.
0 likes@lol yeah I knew it, 16 year old kid huh
0 likes@Synkhronyze wrong again
0 likes@lol I was gonna put just turned 17, did ya?
0 likes@Synkhronyze ....no....
0 likes@lol You're 15.
0 likes@Synkhronyze nay
0 likes@Synkhronyze no. im the moon.
0 likes@lol funny
0 likes@lol You happen to be female?
0 likes@Synkhronyze no.
0 likes@lol you single?
0 likes@Synkhronyze ...
0 likes@lol asking a serious question here..
0 likes@lol I know it's not in order but hear me out
0 likes@Ja Crispy every damn day
2 likes@Ja Crispy Put my hand in your shirt
1 likeSuprise suprise, idubbbz never fell, and it literally lasted a week
1 likeIdubbbz really didn't do anything wrong, other than have an opinion people didn't agree with, making them ridicule him with a single insult that barely fit him.
0 likes@Homeless Hotdog Sure thing 👍👍
0 likes@A. 黒沢 me
0 likes@3g0st It's a dream, man.
0 likesIdubbz and h3h3 really got out of touch
1 like@MCnierstenen Yup, it's what happens when you reach their age and their status quo.
1 likewho is idubbz?
0 likes@Đorđe Rmuš I ruined ur comments 69 like AND @Y's comments 69 likes...now theyre both 70...
0 likesI feel... O M N I P O T E N T
@Mookie Über Alles It isn't anybody's business, it's just pathetic to see Mr. guy who makes fun of everybody to have a girlfriend who'd do that.
0 likesLmao hes just cruising on like nothing happened now. He ain't having a downfall, not yet at least
1 likeThis aged poorly, lol.
1 likeIdubbbz is doing great, getting an average 2-4 million views per video. His content is evolving, it's increasing in quality, and it's super interesting.
The simp/cuck meme had no effect, and it never made any sense in the first place. Those words have lost their original meanings at this point.
@eggo agreed
0 likes@Tintin hes back on top now with the daxflame video
0 likes@ali hassan yes, definitely
0 likesI'm still subbed but man did that blow up in his face
I totally agree with the hiding his videos conspiracy, I started watching alot of commentary a few months after the content cop came out and I never saw a single leafy video or videos talking about him.
0 likesI love how wrong Emp was in this video, believing Minecraft and Leafy to be dead.
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For a video from 2018 he didn't Know Minecraft and leafy will be back tho
2 likesLeafy: you should have gone for the head
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chin
35 likesAll 3.
4 likeshaha
0 likesShoulda checked his onlyfans
0 likesand today leafy was #3 on trending for gaming
12 likesAlthough this Video is 2 Years Old, I have to say, I really cant agree with the last part. I cant see how Leafy's end could be called a tragedy if what Heywatchyourmouth and Elvis the Alien's Video are true. And the theory about Leafy's Channel being manipulated by Youtube really doesnt seem true anymore, as now If you search for Leafy, you will find him immediately, why would they ever remove the "blacklist"? (Yes I know he couldnt have know that at the time that you would find him immediately when searching for him in 2020)
1 likeLeafys return video is apparently gonna revolve around idubbz, that’s gonna be a wild ride when that shit drops
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It's gonna be a stalemate between Idubbbz and LeafyIsHere, even with all the drama Idubbbz is going through, LeafyIsHere would have a hard time.
0 likesWell considering his response video to the content cop I doubt it will be good.
0 likes@C Leafy's response wasn't much of a response to be honest.
1 like@Killer B I'm kinda hoping he doesn't come back.
0 likes@C I don't have that much of problem with Leafy, it's just that I find him annoying.
0 likes@Killer B His fanbase is more of the problem.
0 likes"LeafyIsHere would have a hard time"
0 likes+720,000 subs and counting since March of this year
The Shining motif was a stroke of genius, really, never cared about Leafy but I definitely had goosebumps during the final minute of this video.
0 likesI legit watched this earlier today before Leafy uploaded after two years, what timing
12 likesHe no longer was here, he now is here (for however long this lasts)
1 likeThe legend himself is back boys!
4 likesAnd now, Leafy just uploaded. What a world.
9 likesSuch good and complete video!!!
3 likesthe titanic and leafy comparison is eerily similar
30 likesHE IS BACK MY BROTHERS HE IS BACK THE DARKLORD IS BACK
5 likesI can't wait for part 2
3 likesSpread the word around. The boy is back in town
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Again....
0 likes#LeafyIsBack
6 likesI still can't believe that leafy truly is here once again
0 likesI love leafy alot, he been in my childhood a lot and I really love this person, I love every one of his videos, even tho some say today that its cringy or offensive, I think its just good! Only Normies don't like leafy, but fuck normies anyway
1 likeEdit: The more and more I watch this video I actually wonder do you like leafy or you are another hater?
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@Arisenstring956 who are you and what do you want from me?
0 likesArisenstring 956 hell yeah dude
0 likesArisenstring 956 we gotta work together and shut down these kids you know
0 likeshe is back... And he premiered a video against Idubbbz.
4 likesPretty short one too.
Onision was one of the channels they wanted to get rid off.
2 likesYoutube was right.
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I don't understand why they haven't gotten rid of it yet though. Are they waiting for some kind of opening?
0 likes@Phoebe Aurum They are likely waiting to see if he is arrested on child grooming charges. Similar to how Jaystation's channel was demonetized once he was arrested on assault charges.
1 likeHe has descended down from the heavens to grace are peasant minds with only five words
12 likesleafyishere
10 likesEveryone gangster till leafyishere uploads in the current year
26 likesWho's here after noticing Leafy's rant on Idubbz?
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marxxplaysgames Rant? He said like 5 words
20 likes@Ultra Finest i said noticing, as I didn't watch it
1 likemarxxplaysgames Now he has a longer one.
2 likes@Ultra Finest Preator's outdated.
0 likesDerrick Stegall actually when I play eternal I use the praetor from 2016
0 likes“Rant”
0 likesYeah leafy is still EXTREMELY salty.
0 likesThis ended just after Leafy’s first video in 2 years was uploaded wtf
1 likeI watch this video every blue moon as a movie and a throw back to an amazing YouTube era
1 likeI really hope youtube doesnt turn on you for this
1 likeReally really great stuff man thank you
0 likesIts a Parallel timeline when Leafy is coming back for Revenge
0 likesBtw, It is funny because, I am pretty sure irl all of those guys are like friends XD all the rants and stuff its just like a plaything for them, maybe at first it was serious when you make a rant on someone but after they just do it for views and fun lol
1 likeThe beast has awoken from its slumber yesterday
7 likesHe just uploaded a new video “responding” to Idubbz
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@S F what goes around comes around
0 likesA L'Cie what 😂
1 likedude your editing style is so cool
2 likesLaughs in 2020 idubbbz drama
3 likesWhen is the new part coming out when we talk about leafy coming back just for 35 seconds
21 likesThe ending reference is top notch
1 likeLeafy is back, same content as before but maybe toned down a bit, we’ll see how this story continues if at all
1 like"It would never be as popular as it was then..."
0 likes2020: Sure
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Flagilament it’s really not only at 3m views
0 likesWell this aged like milk.
1 likeChapter XII: Leafy is BACK
1 like*Picture of Idubbbz
*A tree growing in a tree Background
This is really funny to watch now because Leafy just uploaded a video. He’s not dead yet...
3 likesI love these you tube geographic videos
0 likesIn a nutshell: H3H3 is a normie and boring, leafy is the real deal
2 likesWell well well, Leafy is back now.
3 likesIt was an April fool's joke. Leafy's not back lmao
2 likesNice timing on the recommendation of this video YouTube.
3 likes👍
Well the poison has worn off Demonetization
1 likeLeafyisback
LeafyIsBack
6 likesI’d love for the 2016 idubbbz to do a content cop on the 2020 idubbbz
3 likesHe didn't have a doofy-looking haircut? 😂
4 likesEdit: 27:25 Whose remix is that to Alabama 3's 'Woke up this Morning'?
But now, LeafyIsBack
3 likesI liked this JUST for the Bojack Horseman intro
0 likesthat intro was fking awesome it even had an Evangelion reference
POG HES BACK
4 likesand now two years later leafy uploaded to his channel
0 likesDude you could make documentaries
2 likesHoly shit I knew I recognized that song that is an amazing use of bojacks theme
1 likeLEAFY IS BACK BITCHES
3 likesHey Emp. When are you making a video on idubbbz? Now that Leafy's soul in the after life was awakened.
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Aqublue3dsi cus idubbbz hasn’t quit and slither away in his snake pit like leafy did
0 likes@Mario Judah’s Dad I must have altimeters. Cuase I don't remember asking you
0 likesAqublue3dsi OOOOOOOOOO MY NIGGA I JUST GOT ROASTED
0 likesAqublue3dsi no boy ur profile photo is roasting urself
0 likes@Mario Judah’s Dad oh, my bad
0 likesI think Leafy’s fan base just grew up or his content just wasn’t what they wanted anymore. Honestly his content was petty and a bit pathetic. He most appealed to youngens. I can’t see his content being relevant for their attention spans for very long. I sure there is a lot that goes in to it too.
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@ZchryPlys NOPE, it’s cuz it’s wears him out
0 likesI watched this last night and I wonder where was Leafy when iDubbbz is being accused of being a cuck?
2 likesWonder no more I guess
He's back ;)
3 likesTHE LEGEND IS BACK
0 likesHe has returned!
1 likehe’s back.
4 likesWho's here after Leafy's new video "Idubbbz"?
6 likesThis video is pretty fricking good
1 likeyou got a new sub friend!
"Have you ever sseen a leafy video in your youtube recomendations after 2016"
1 likeYou say that as if I saw one before that.
YO HE CAME BACK HE UPLOADED AGAIN
7 likesBut LeafyIsBack. Meme
4 likesLeafy is back he just posted March 31 in response to Idubbbz.
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He had an interview with dramaalert
0 likesGuess who's back. Back again.
7 likesi actually think i watched some of leafys minecraft videos awhile back. they seem really familiar
1 likeYeah that's cool and all, but what about leafy rising back, taking another shot at idubbz for making the content cop?
0 likes15:06 homestuck is everywhere.
1 likeHey he’s back!
1 likeHE'S BACK!!!
6 likesThe lizard king has returned
1 likeHe's back
3 likesI got recommended a LeafyIsHere video so...
3 likesjust remember all caps when you spell the mans name
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Rende LEAFYISBACK
0 likesChapter XII: LeafyIsBack
4 likesdude i just got back into tf2 and i just remembered star_ vids use to popup in my suggested all the time.
1 likeAnyone seen the salty 30 sec video posted on leafy's channel today?
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Super salty
1 likeTHE CHAMP...IS...HEREEEEE
0 likesLeafy's attack on keemstar was his unmaking
0 likesHoho, our boy is back.
2 likesLeafy is back !
1 like21:24 MrDarkness sounds like Kylo Ren
1 likeAnd he just posted a new video.
3 likesHe’s back
1 likeLet me correct you over a year later leafyisback
2 likesThere may be a season 2
0 likesIncredible video
1 like49:14 I feel so cucked, dude. Just fucking say "Would Leafy still be Here" ughhhhhhhh
0 likeshe's back
1 likeLeafy is now here guys
3 likesHe's back
1 likeNow he returns
1 likeWho’s here after leafy cane back
1 likeHe's back.
0 likesCHAPTER XI: THE RETURN OF THE KING
1 likeThe story isn't over yet emp
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yes, it is.
0 likes@the snorg nah it definitely isn't now
0 likesLeafy has returned
8 likesBack from the dead leafyishere
0 likesLEAFY IS HERE
2 likesGuess who’s back
2 likesWe're fucked.
3 likesYall know why I'm here...
4 likesLeafyisBack
3 likesWhoops he came back
0 likesOh shit he is back
0 likesIt appears that we shot at a U-Boat...
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iDubbbz shot a ricochet at Leafy which took 4 years to circle back
2 likesBoy are you in for a surprise.
1 likehe has returned...
5 likesEmpLemon, YouTube knows of Leafy's return and recommends me this video.
3 likesLike if you got the same recommendation!
People are like “he’s back” who cares let’s go back to the comment that Emp said Minecraft will never be as popular as it was back before 2013, Minecraft is experiencing a renaissance and boy was he wrong
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Deadass. My sister got it on her PC, and I was gonna get it on the Switch until this virus shit happened
1 likeThey called me a mad man, well whos crazy now?
0 likes@Sting Urameshi I don't think its worth on Nintendo Switch
0 likeshttps://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F09v6kpg The graph shows that it's only 3/4 of the way as being popular as Jun-Jul 2013.
1 likeLeafyisback
3 likesLeafyisback
3 likesI’m a subscriber and I never got a recommendation for his videos
3 likesAnd I don’t beleve leafys videos were toxic
Peaple need someone to say hey stop bieng stupid
Like shack said stop it get some help
Leafy never said for his fans to go after peaple they did it on his own
Also I enjoyed the chaos
I’d rather have him 100 percent rather than the shit we have now
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Nuna I blame autocorrect for any misspelled words I may make cus autocorrect memorizes incorrect words and then at times throw them at you lol
0 likesNuna and we all mis 2016 youtube better quality videos while they were not the best made like production wise they were better quality content
0 likesAn example smosh
J Loftis I’m still not gonna watch his videos :P
0 likesJohn Cena everyone likes what they like as long as you respect the lizard king we are cool lol
0 likesLeafy’s peak was on 9/11. Lol
0 likesI guess LeafyIsHereAgain
0 likesLeafyIsBack
2 likesLeafyIsBack
2 likesKinda like the count of monte cristo when he was metaphorically speaking put in prison and the others made of with success.
0 likesRemember the first word of this comment.
I want to hear your thoughts and opinions on pyro nowadays, he's obviously in a much better place than a couple years ago. Is he the leafy that could have been?
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this please, i love pyro as u can see for my pfp lmao
9 likes- Pyro - as a friend :D
5 likeshe just uses self deprecation as a shield of criticism....his content isn't any better than a jacksepticeye video quality wise, yet people just praise him because "OMG HE''S SELF AWARE LOL THAT MEAN'S HE'S FUNNY" it's such broken logic....
6 likesOr, you know, humor is subjective (and when the fuck did logic have anything to do with finding someone or something funny)? But of course that didn't cross your mind, because that wouldn't mean, "IMMA ONE HUNNIT PASENT OBJERKTIVELY CORE-RECT!!1!"
16 likesmy name jeff
6 likescrippled mexican I like him because he makes funny jokes/edits and has some pretty cool game reviews
5 likesI actually love those game review videos he does.
1 likeMoomoomoo Koko Pyro would be exponentially better as a content creator if he just dropped the punching bag persona. He's outgrown it.
1 likeNishiki's No.1 Fan Nishikiyama-kun ❤
0 likeshaha leafy is back lol xd
1 likeI was one of those that used to watch Leafy's content everyday simply because of the reasons you mentioned at the end. He wasn't some cookie-cutter pretty boy from Disney channel, he wasn't some foreign troll with an accent, he wasn't some rich youtuber flexing his wealth. He was none of the things that you usually associate popular youtubers with. He presented himself as your everyday "dork" with strong(if toxic at times) opinions and the bravery to speak his mind. Which is why it was so refreshing at the time, and probably why he rose quickly to fame. A similar trend happened with Ricegum. But in Rice's case, he learned to go after grown ups(mostly) and those more popular than him instead of kids or smaller channels. Plus, he cleverly harnessed power from the Jake Paul storm of 2016/2017 and was able to withstand the backlash from Content Cop while still growing massively.
4 likesAnd you're also right when you said that Leafy probably lost views because he never changed his content. I certainly lost interest because of that. Although initially interesting at first, there was only so much ranting about cringy kids or "weird people" that I could stand before the fatigue set in and I started avoiding his videos. But to be fair, I felt the same way about most of Pewdiepie's videos at the time, from whom I also unsubscribed(but now re-subscribed) because of stale and boring content.
Edit - Oh and I liked the video as well.
Dude I totally believe your theory is correct. I remember trying to see the status of Leafy’s channel in mid November 2017, and looking for about 15 minutes before finding Leafy’s channel. It was so strange how difficult it was to find his channel, even when directly looking for it.
4 likesthis is a really good video and it really got me thinking about something i hadn't since 2016, leafy!
4 likesi subscribed to Leafy in his rise, right before he hit 1M. i thought he was funny and i was captivated by his edgy humor because i was an edgy 14 year old. in the past, i didn't see his videos as the same old things or as bullying. they were all refreshing to me. looking back, they are pretty much copy and paste. i also thought he was cute mostly because of his edgyness and hair i guess so that furthered my bias. when the content cop came out, i was in that "phase" where i loved leafy, idubbz, and filthy frank as if they were gods so i thought it was just a joke and i didn't see his downfall at all until i saw his nudes of him and his gf leak.
i think a lot of his fans were like that. edgy teens who only think roasting and offensive things are funny that latch onto these youtubers. I think maybe they are what rose him to the top for a while. but i don't know
iTS jUst a tHeoRy!111!1!!11!
all in all, i loved this video. you made the whole history of leafy and his demise very clear and easy to understand. 2016 was definitely the most interesting year for youtube, thanks to leafy.
You mean...Leafy is here.
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LeafyIsBack
1 likewell... this evolved terribly.
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In terms of leafy never returning? Yes.
1 likeIn terms of all the research and topics discussed? No.
HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU
5 likesI watched this video like 7 times. Emp you got some serious talent.
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bruh im on like watch #3 its quality
2 likesNope, LeafyISHere
1 likeDamn. I feel kind of bad for him...
29 likesWell, he's just a leaf. A leaf doesn't last long.
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Yep.
2 likeswinner winner
4 likesMaybe there will be a budishere or twigishere?
Or blossomishere?
Let us give it time
The wind moves you around..
4 likesDoesn’t last that long?
1 likeThis is a deep thread
3 likeshow 'bout that new leafy video though
2 likesYou still make high quality content on youtube? Man this guy is crazy, keep the good work up!
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Deathborn 00 his ytps are dead
1 likeI love how this incredibly well produced, and you know your fuckin memes.
25 likessubbed
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Finna Despacito #ShrekAwarness
0 likesFusionAttraction tips lee fedora
1 likeLeafyIShere
1 likeNever really liked him but I still feel sorry for the poor guy
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He was always one chin short...
0 likes2016, a year when Youtubers whose vids were monetised didn’t make family friendly content to avoid demonetisation but did bc they wanted to entertain kids or were edgy and based around drama. If only we could experience that time again.
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Koi YTP “If only we could experience 2016 again.”
2 likes-Some Sociopath, 2018
This was an amazing video, it’s so well made and interesting. Your theory actually makes a lot of sense. In fact I remember when I was in fifth grade Leafy started gaining a lot of popularity and kids in my grade told me about him, I got a few of his videos in my recommendations, but a few months later I never saw his videos anymore.
3 likesI think that leafys content cop was so impactful because him and idubbbz share the same viewers; the ricegum one had no effect, for example, because they share little to no viewers
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I can assure you they were not interchangable fanbases
3 likes@Roger Dalzell But I'm pretty sure most people that gave Leafy shit, because they were iDubbbz fans, were also Leafy fans, before the Content Cop
15 likesYou took the words exactly out of my mouth. The people who liked leafy also liked idubbbz's content so it peaked their interest. Many of ricegum's audience probably could not get behind the kind of content idubbbz made and thought he was just another hater so they wrote him off as one.
13 likesEAZY
0 likesLeafy just made a 30 second video, He bak
0 likesApocalypse Incoming
1 likeI feel like I've just listened to a very insightful audiobook. This video was so clever and perceptive...
77 likesThe Madlib sample yoooo!!!
0 likes“Minecraft reaches its cultural peak, and would never again reach the same level of relevancy”
245 likes2019’s been weird, man. Minecraft is cool again, and I couldn’t be happier.
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I hope the same thing happens to leafy
2 likes@bdjsjshhehehd leafy teaming up with techno in minecraft mondays it would be so epic
7 likesHistory has truly repeated itself
3 likes@bdjsjshhehehd no hopefully not
6 likesIt’s still dead
0 likesSentry Buster It by definition isn’t, nor ever has been.
0 likesI went through 10 videos about Leafy, and the recommended vids gave me a grand total of ..... 2 Leafy vids. My God, Youtube did kill him...
46 likesWell... well.... well.
4 likesRicegum’s channel is dead now lol
2 likesCame for the memes. Stayed for the content.
34 likesOk but still leafy still gots more subs then you
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@Dae'Shaan Moore idc
0 likesok but still x died in a hit and run
7 likes@brian scalabrine destroyed
0 likesSub count really doesn't matter here. Emp receives more genuine respect then leafy.
0 likesI think you just need to do what you love and not wanting to get famous, if people don't like it it's ok, you just gotta find what you love and do it, and maybe one day you will find a group of people who share your interests and find friends. I hate how fake and image obsessed youtube has become while before it was just people doing what they wanted to do for fun. Money changes everything I guess.
8 likesAight Leafy just uploaded a new vid. nice
0 likesLEAFY IS BACK
0 likesLeafyIsHeren't
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*heaven'nt in'nt
15 likescraptain crunch what're you doing here
0 likesLeaf'nt
0 likesHereLeafysn't
1 likeLeafyIsn'tHere
1 likeEmeraldStorm REEEEE
0 likesEmeraldStorm Actually, HISSSSS
0 likesThis is why I hate today's memes just look at this reply string.
7 likeshe has returned for a bit
5 likesLeafyIsHere
11 likesLeafy is back
2 likesLeafyIsHere again
1 likeLeafyIsBack
1 likeLeafyisheren'tn't
2 likesIt seems, that this is the time of the decade, when leafy has returned and he is here.
5 likes@Boomer248 indeed.
2 likesi'm back you're mad big mad
0 likesLeafyIsHeren't? Not anymore.
2 likesLeafy. IS. Here.
@Mr. Fictitious I... I know...
0 likes@Reezay Yea, i know.
0 likesIt really be like that though
3 likesFacts
0 likesYes
0 likesWow, it's been 2 years, since i had posted this comment, time indeed flies by.
0 likesHe Back
3 likesThis was actually a very well made documentary! I have to say, it was definitely worth the one hour watch.
4 likesAside from the documentary, which is well-researched and very, very entertaining, I really have to admire the music choice: it fits perfectly and gives off the best atmosphere for each segment. Great video overall!!
3 likesI'm so happy that this has 2 million views
35 likesAt last your talent is appreciated
my my how turns have tabled
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Adler Drahms tf are u saying lmao
1 likeThe tale of Leafyishere kind of reminds me of Adolf Hitler's rise to power in Germany, both of them started with nothing and both of them rose to fame and were motivated by something. And the both of them created an empire that would then be crushed by forces that were beyond their control, in the end both of them would die at the hands of their own hubris. Poetic is it not?
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Also; Leafy liked to joke about Hitler
2 likes"The tale of Leafyishere kind of reminds me of Adolf Hitler's rise to power in Germany, (...)"
0 likesjust end there, lmao
leafy is just nostaglia to me. He's one of the channels I actually knew right from the beginning ( mc days ). I remember his first ddos video and his comentaries.
193 likesstopped watching after idubbz but liek i kinda miss it. It's like an old game that brings good memories. u may play that game now and realize it's actually quite bad - but back in the day it was the shit
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So true
10 likesUmi ZoomR he was talking about the game
1 likejust like minecraft
1 likeSamuel Dawson lol
0 likesLeafy can be funny because of the tangents he goes on, and his creative insults.
1 likeIts still pretty funny
0 likessqueakyshoes did you just say leafy had creative insults?
0 likestru man tru
0 likesIf no one is a follower then who will the leaders lead?
0 likesfunc so fucking true. I miss him a lot.
0 likesif im honest i did kinda stop a while before that as I got bored - but idubbz put the nail in the coffin for me
0 likesThis video was outstanding, probably the best movie I’ve seen to date.
45 likesWhen i first saw your video, i was like : "Shit how dafuq can i spend 51 minutes of my life to see this ranting video ?"
63 likesBut i watch anyway because Leafy is on the title
At the part the downfall of Leafy, i start to think :"Shit, this video must suppose to end here" but the twist that Content Cop actually didnt kill Leafy hit me back so hard that i have to watch the entire of the video
Nice work EmpLemon. You got me
P/s: Hisssssssssssssssssssssss
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here we go again w that hisss shit
3 likes😂 wow old times😭
0 likes@ii chittaphon hisssssssssssssssssssssssssss but for reptilia by the strokes
0 likes@ii chittaphon hey the nights not over your not trying hard enough
0 likesone last hiss for old times sake
1 likehissssssssssss 😔🤘
My final Hiss for Respect
0 likesHISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
To your theory, in my opinion Leafy died because his fuel was YouTube drama, and YouTube drama was just becoming dead and irrelevant, especially since no more significant news or drama was happening. It was kinda becoming a big dead "meme". But it could have been partially because of what you said too.
7 likesLeafy is back tho
0 likesI feel like content cop wasn't made to destroy bad content creators, its to teach them a lesson. If they don't change their content after content cop, they decline. so was the case with leafy, and how to, while people like tana and keem changed their egotistical douchbag personalities, so they were definitely taught a lesson.
7 likesIronically the YouTube community became toxic anyways.
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Yep. Should have never became a company. Once they stop paying people, then maybe we'll get a genuine community again. Now, it's just wash-ups for money and people who actually use YouTube creatively and seriously are left underground. And for what? Money, and the chain-reaction of other popular apps dying and coming to this place to re-up.
16 likes@For The Honor of Grayskull Tiny issue, people that make a living off of YouTube will go.out of business, even independently owned channels that also.make good content.
1 like@Jaylee Parsons Well lucky for them that I'm not apart of the Youtube team, making executive decisions. If it were me, YouTube should have never became a "job opportunity" to begin with. Anything to do with money will end up with corruption. People who depend on YouTube for income are on rocks anyway, since it isn't a reliable source (it can be taken away at any moment.) Although I agree that content creators should recieve some sort of reward for the hardship that they commit to, it shouldn't be openly available to everybody (at this point they aren't going to stop being a company; that would be dumb since YouTube is the most used social media outlet ever.)
1 like@Jink Kefka I doubt youtube content would suck if people stopped getting paid. YouTube was fine a good few years ago when it wasn't a money-making machine. Now that's what people want so they'll do whatever they can to bring in the money bags. Of course not everybody is greedy/using this platform to survive, but the vast majority are and you can bet there's corruption. My thoughts are not impactful because YouTube isn't going to stop paying people, that would be stupid. I'm just saying that it should have never happened.
1 like@Jink Kefka you know, you actually have a point there. I guess I'm just tired of seeing Jake and Logan Paul everywhere and not actually good content creators that deserve their limelight. There's so many channels that rush their content just so they can get some pay and that's just not good (i.e. five minute crafts). But alas, without motivation comes lack of... motivation. You right, you right.
0 likesSuprisingly sad
1 likeIronic now that everyone loves Minecraft
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Liam McNicholas I don’t
0 likes@Mario Judah’s Dad ok?
0 likesMyNickIs Nick ok and I don’t like Minecraft there is literally nothing else to say I don’t like Minecraft
0 likesJohn Cena ok?
0 likesPeak & Peak there is literally nothing else to say
0 likesLeafy is now here
1 likeThe real takeaway from this story is that "YouTube friends" will always stab each other in the back. I am yet to hear of any major large YouTubers who have not yet done this. h3h3 is prime example. He started off as this chill, slightly edgy but not too edgy guy making comedy videos. Since he has knifed every single other person in the back and then used their metaphorical corpse to climb to the next ledge. Now he sits at the top of YouTube's ivory tower, with his videos about a certain recent pandemic now being recommended as "Trusted News Sources" and having videos making fun of him mysteriously getting deleted or demonetized.
87 likesSo moral of the story kids: if you make it big, never trust anyone. They are all hyenas waiting for you to show weakness.
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Like people being mad idubbz lets his gf have an only fans?
7 likes@likira111 Nobody is mad, but he's a massive hypocrite. His GF is legit someone he'd make a content cop on.
17 likes@Hellenic Boi His friend H3H3 is also normally someone he would make a content cop on.
14 likes@Family Value55 idubbbz is now someone idubbbz would make a content cop on
2 likesI have problems with h3h3, but there is a difference between stabbing someone in the back and disagreeing with them, something you don't seem to understand.
0 likes@Lazzle Dazzle disagreeing is one thing. It's another to criticise your Internet Friends, and then begin crying victim when they criticise you (see: the BetterHelp dumpster fire). That and going on to use your position with YouTube to remove criticism of you. The fact is he just simply uses people and discards them when they have no use. Like every other internet e-celebrity.
0 likes@Myne1001 This idea that he removed gokanaru's video is groundless bullshit, it's an alex jones level conspiracy with more holes than I can count, it got removed because it violated youtubes rules with guns and violence, I think it is a stupid rule from youtube, but I don't think h3 is some sort of evil fucking mastermind with complete control of youtube, and I don't think he took gokanaru's video down, the is baseless bullshit. In the betterhelp situation he was literally just saying that he didn't know about the shit the company was doing, stop getting pissed off for pewdiepie, someone who isn't pissed off.
0 likesI don't like everything ethan does or says, but you seem to be operating under guilty until proven innocent with ethan, I'm running on innocent until proven guilty, quite frankly I don't see a whole lot of a point in having a discussion considering we are operating on two entirely different mindsets.
0 likesSooo...... When are you taking down this video, like i love it but you know...
0 likeslove him or hate him, he was a Legend. #ComeBackLeafy
5 likesMy mum asked me some days ago "what happened to that Youtuber that you used to watch after school? The leafy something kid" and i said "he died". I watched this video today and I started crying. FFS.
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he , didn't make it. 🏥
13 likes:'(
5 likesHe is alive though. He decided to be a new man in the real world. Don't worry. Watch Emp's new bid for more Info
12 likes:'(
1 like:’(
1 likeu have issues
1 likeI miss 2016 YouTube. The Filthy Four were practically in their prime, h3 had some of it's best videos (as well as early 2017), and there where videos for everyone to watch. For real, whenever the demonitizing started happening nothing was the same. The best youtubers became a shadow of their former selves. H3h3 is kinda dead, idubbbz is kinda dead, filthy frank and max quit theirs, and now new guys are rising. Ironic how the most hated youtubers are viners (ex. The Pauls, Lele Pons, too damn many) and how some of the new loved ones were viners too (ex. Cody Ko, Danny Gonzalez, Drew Gooden)
4 likesLeafyisback
1 likeLeafyisback
1 like>when you feel sympathetic after seeing an evil figure's entire youtube career.
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que in this:
25 likesleafy is here is at the top of his game [upgrade]
YouTube stabbed him in the neck like a goddamn cow in a butcher shop and then hid it meticulously by using the hate being generated around him [fuck go back]
YouTube then decides to put worse people on top and proceeds to fuck everything up worse than it was [I SAID GO BACK]
BasedSwiss >when you do a green text on YouTube
4 likesThe Tetra profile pic helps, I can't be mad at Tetra
3 likes>>tfw red text hasn't caught on
3 likesHonestly he was never that bad, especially if the people he was “cyberbullying” were actually fucked up like a girl who defended hitler, a girl who had sex with dogs, a man who told kids to die, onision who recorded his sick wife instead of actually getting her help, the list is long...
9 likes@krishnugget >calling meme arrows greentext
2 likes@DerpyDosh >calling greentext meme arrows
2 likesThat tobacco (or is bmsr?) song at around 25 min
0 likesLeafy is cute bruh
1 likeA full featured, hour long emplemon epic?
26 likesHell yeah!
He back and also he ain't back
2 likesi wish people had half the quality that you have with you're vids, keep doin good lad.
7 likesLeafy is here again.
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Or he was.
0 likesas someone who avoided this stuff, this was really interesting now that the flames were out and looking back at this stuff.
22 likeshoi! LeafyIsBack
3 likesNew chapter LeafyisBack
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