As a girl this might be the hardest video i've sat through and i can't hold back tears. I hope that Christy will be able to heal from this

@Steve Adams How is he a simp for caring about another person? Grow up😐

@Patricia Curtis agree with you and please you with views or see therapy. To me it looks like you would benefit of therapy, too.

@Jannie Schlüter it honestly breaks my heart thay you view the world this way, I can only imagine your upbringing. please, PLEASE look into therapy. im not even being sarcastic, from the bottom of my heart I really hope you do. ❤

@Raven this woman here is known for other foolish life choices, too. The reward of sin is death. She is no victim. She knew what she was getting herself into.

the comments really filter out men that will be successful with women and men that will be bitter and alone lol

@Tabitha I'm not blaming anyone. I pointed out to OP that there's worse things to be scared of.<br>I realize that you're clarifying something out, but at least read the only 3 words I had in my comment before you tag me with a response that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

@Tabitha I'm not blaming anyone. I pointed out to OP that there's worse things to be scared of.
I realize that you're clarifying something out, but at least read the only 3 words I had in my comment before you tag me with a response that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

@Jintaro Kensei the abuse didn’t start until a month or so in she already established a relationship with him and developed feelings the way you’re blaming her for LOVING him is absolutely disgusting. It’s not black and white she already loved him and when someone is violent and horrible towards you one day then spends the next few days showing you immense love and care it takes a toll on you it makes you feel like you were over reacting because how could someone that’s treating you good right now be so horrible

I mean just look at her insta......she doing alright hun

@VHS-RETRO-RAMPAGE it's irrelevant how it sounds or how I deliver my point. Reality doesn't get better with sugarcoating, it's good to remember that.

@Some Kiwi  yup it seems the incels have found this video

@Jannie Schlüter how the hell is my comment offensive? Girl bye

@youngji so do men have to abuse and manipulate women so that they can have girlfriends? She CHOSE him. She LOVED him. She did not love a good and righteous man and she never will. Your comment is offensive and fake.

@Jannie Schlüter because he's an abuser. They manipulate vulnerable persons like her.

@youngji  you cannot end things like as if you never had started things. This is no fantasy world. My question remains, why did she decide to reward THIS man over all the other men she had as options and become his girlfriend?

@Jannie Schlüter She also decided to end that relationship but this psycho tried to take her back by abusing her.

Some of the replies on this comment are gross

Were you able to hold back your tears yet?

@Jannie Schlüter victim blaming at its finest

I'm a guy and couldn't stop crying either

Honestly I want to say she’s fine now and a lot more stronger from this

Definitely agree. I could not imagine going through that.


I hope wherever Christine is.. she’s thriving and living her best life

I hope wherever Christine is.. she’s thriving and living her best life

pierrearr well it wouldn’t be her fault, it would just be a poor lack of judgement and gullible on her side for letting him convince her,

think of it like a thief saying to a stupid person who knows he steals “hey don’t worry I’ll look after your house while you’re gone you can trust me” and the him letting them look after the house genuinely expecting nothing to be stolen, and coming back to no TV, computer etc , it’s not his fault, he’s just extremely gullible  and trusting, unless he himself is a thief or likes the idea of him stealing other peoples shit and finds it funny or whatever, then he would deserve it. That’s just my opinion though

Fen Vulpeus I’m just being as ignorant and dumb as the people who say I’m victim blaming.

Fen Vulpeus I’m just being as ignorant and dumb as the people who say I’m victim blaming.

@niecaps I understand your point of view, I just think Christy is way more responsible for her own choices. I'd really like to hear what you think about the Ted Bundy comparison. If Ted got out of prison and Christy started dating him, do you feel like she'd be asking for trouble or not? Obviously being gullible enough to fall for a maniac doesn't justify getting beat up or killed but a part of it is still their own fault. Of course we can deny Christy's responsibility by saying she's mentally damaged but if we do that we might as well say the same about Jon and in the end nobody would be responsible for their choices.

Also, what if Jon got out and some womanl started dating him believing that he was changed? Would it still be 0% her own fault if she got hurt?

@pierrearr  First off, when you like or love someone, you can’t just say “Well I better not do that.” and completely get over your feelings. Second, when you feel like you’ve finally found your other half and you think they feel the same way (even if they have an extremely violent past) you never think to your self that they’ll end up beating you. Jon quite obvious sucked Christy in with his highs, looks, and romantic tendencies. I bet these highs were so long that when the moment of abuse first started she’d just think he was having a bad day. Again, Christy chose wrong, but that isn’t her fault. Jon put up a caring, romantic facade to suck her in, then when she was far enough involved that’s when abuse started. Before you dismiss everything I just said, I’ll say it again. When Jon put up that sweet, caring boyfriend charade for months, Christy truly thought this man wouldn’t be abusive towards her. She chose wrong, but that isn’t her fault.

@Maria Espejo It's called personal responsibility. Your generation needs everyone to feel victimized rather than having them make better decisions so they don't put themselves in FU situations

@Maria Espejo It's called personal responsibility. Your generation needs everyone to feel victimized rather than having them make better decisions so they don't put themselves in FU situations

Maria Espejo wtf you think warmachine is a victim? That’s disgusting

Maria Espejo wtf you think warmachine is a victim? That’s disgusting

@Yung Thug People just can't handle the truth. If people as a whole had any sense to that degree, we wouldn't even have situations like the one presented in the video.

@Yung Thug People just can't handle the truth. If people as a whole had any sense to that degree, we wouldn't even have situations like the one presented in the video.

@Aida Bobadilla This Isnt the victim blaming. We blame both of them.

@Aida Bobadilla This Isnt the victim blaming. We blame both of them.

I too hope she's living her best life despite all the incels in the replies wishing otherwise

I too hope she's living her best life despite all the incels in the replies wishing otherwise

@Yung Thug Looking forward to your inevitable appearance as a subject of this channel based on the rhetoric in this reply chain holy fuck.

@Yung Thug Looking forward to your inevitable appearance as a subject of this channel based on the rhetoric in this reply chain holy fuck.

@DIO oh the famous "it's the current year" comment sprinkled with a tea spoon of cognitive dissonance, while using extreme examples for argumenting and thus dilluting the original story and comment. Then again, still refusing to acknowledge that dating toxic people (in this case violent) is no bueno and should NOT be encouraged (the argument from OP) while spitting nonsense like "victims should not be blamed" that make no sense but earn you woke points.

@DIO oh the famous "it's the current year" comment sprinkled with a tea spoon of cognitive dissonance, while using extreme examples for argumenting and thus dilluting the original story and comment. Then again, still refusing to acknowledge that dating toxic people (in this case violent) is no bueno and should NOT be encouraged (the argument from OP) while spitting nonsense like "victims should not be blamed" that make no sense but earn you woke points.

she’s fine. Just look up her name. she has an OF and is still doing the same work. I literally just looked up her name and her ig popped up

she’s fine. Just look up her name. she has an OF and is still doing the same work. I literally just looked up her name and her ig popped up

@Yung Thug t-the absolute absurdity of your comments, it makes me shiver. I’ll start off by saying you’re right, you’re right to say she shouldn’t have gone into that relationship in the first place, BUT when you feel like you found someone who matches you perfectly (at first), their wrongful past seems like JUST THE PAST. To Christine, Jon was this amazing, nice guy and she felt like he was doing all that he could for her, so when the abuse started I bet a part of her felt obligated to take it and that he’ll get better soon. This plays into the embarrassment Christine felt when this was happening as well. This, my friend, is exactly how abusive relationships start. I’ll say it again if you missed it the first time, to Christine, Jon’s violent past could NEVER be compared to the amount of love he was showing her then. She genuinely thought Jon was a changed man because how could he possibly hit her if he loved her? So, my sweet, sweet friend, let’s get past the questions like “Why did Christine go into this relationship knowing his history?” and start focusing on learning from this video. Let’s empathize with Christine and her pain and say to ourselves “Wow, I’m never getting me a partner like Jon”

DiskoSpider 10 furlongs 2200 yards and a mile is 8 furlongs 1760 yards

DiskoSpider 10 furlongs 2200 yards and a mile is 8 furlongs 1760 yards

ken m I never even said that either so, they’re making shit up

ken m I never even said that either so, they’re making shit up

@ken m Oh, admittedly I have not read them all just due to how many and how long they are. Sorry about that

@ken m Oh, admittedly I have not read them all just due to how many and how long they are. Sorry about that

@ken m I mean you said “The Trigger statement is “she had it coming””, I thought you were telling me that was what the guy said and that was why there was this argument

@ken m I mean you said “The Trigger statement is “she had it coming””, I thought you were telling me that was what the guy said and that was why there was this argument

Might as well join this rabbit hole too.
To think a comment meant entirely in good faith could start something like this and get comments to this day is astounding.
This is the internet I guess, but wasting your time on a 1000 IQ argument of whether someone deserved getting abused isn't hip and cool, it's just kinda sad and disgusting.
Having an actual life outside of a comment section is pretty nice.

Might as well join this rabbit hole too.
To think a comment meant entirely in good faith could start something like this and get comments to this day is astounding.
This is the internet I guess, but wasting your time on a 1000 IQ argument of whether someone deserved getting abused isn't hip and cool, it's just kinda sad and disgusting.
Having an actual life outside of a comment section is pretty nice.

Scarlett you think warmachine is a victim? Wtf

Scarlett you think warmachine is a victim? Wtf

@Yung Thug this is a  disgusting thing to say, it's never okay to victim blame. next.

@Yung Thug this is a  disgusting thing to say, it's never okay to victim blame. next.

@Yung Thug Don't let these drones get to you. They have no arguments only emotions and shaming tactics. Most have probably been in a bad relationship and are trying to cope with that.

@Yung Thug Don't let these drones get to you. They have no arguments only emotions and shaming tactics. Most have probably been in a bad relationship and are trying to cope with that.

@Dean Peterson porn and sex addiction hurts people. Sex work is evil.

@Dean Peterson porn and sex addiction hurts people. Sex work is evil.

@Aedin Harpster What did he say, it doesn’t show his comment?

@Aedin Harpster What did he say, it doesn’t show his comment?

@ken m Google censoring.. Toxic masculinity lol

@ken m Google censoring.. Toxic masculinity lol

@DIO because she can't see it she had to deal with the consequences her fault

@DIO because she can't see it she had to deal with the consequences her fault

@Yung Thug alright, hope you have fun making a fool outta yourself here for the next couple months bud, and god knows wherever else you decide to have weak arguments. ✌✌✌

@Yung Thug alright, hope you have fun making a fool outta yourself here for the next couple months bud, and god knows wherever else you decide to have weak arguments. ✌✌✌

@Yung Thug what was the original comment anyway?

@Yung Thug what was the original comment anyway?

@Yung Thug just reading a few replies you come off as a guy to immediately refute any and all arguments and will go to the ends of the earth to try and attempt to NOT be wrong and fail miserably at it all the same. Sure enough, I skip and scroll all the way down and 2 months later you’re still typing away on a YouTube comment thread. Tragic lmaooo. War machine? Is that you from prison? 😂

@Yung Thug just reading a few replies you come off as a guy to immediately refute any and all arguments and will go to the ends of the earth to try and attempt to NOT be wrong and fail miserably at it all the same. Sure enough, I skip and scroll all the way down and 2 months later you’re still typing away on a YouTube comment thread. Tragic lmaooo. War machine? Is that you from prison? 😂

I was about to say she received death threats and and has not been safe since, but I guess that much is obvious based on the responses to your comment. It's despicable.

I was about to say she received death threats and and has not been safe since, but I guess that much is obvious based on the responses to your comment. It's despicable.

@Yung Thug you know your wrong when you type this much to keep your to retain your pride and validation.

@Yung Thug you know your wrong when you type this much to keep your to retain your pride and validation.

She was looking for a bad boy.... And she found him!

She was looking for a bad boy.... And she found him!

@Yung Thug when in a relationship or even starting, it's difficult to think critically, this would affect a person's ability to analyse truths objectively. She sees a glimmer of humanity in him when he treats her good, in her mind she stays because hopefully in her future things will be like that glimmer she saw

@Yung Thug when in a relationship or even starting, it's difficult to think critically, this would affect a person's ability to analyse truths objectively. She sees a glimmer of humanity in him when he treats her good, in her mind she stays because hopefully in her future things will be like that glimmer she saw

What? Christine? If that girl couldn't see this train wreck coming?

What? Christine? If that girl couldn't see this train wreck coming?

I know this thread is v off topic from the original comment, but was still wondering if anyone responding to rae knows if she's doing better? Someone said she had an 0nlyfans

I know this thread is v off topic from the original comment, but was still wondering if anyone responding to rae knows if she's doing better? Someone said she had an 0nlyfans

MisterExclusive so you misquoted me and that’s dishonest, I didn’t say that at all, show me the comment number if you still think I did

MisterExclusive so you misquoted me and that’s dishonest, I didn’t say that at all, show me the comment number if you still think I did

MisterExclusive we are showing support by helping future women see the mistake Christie made, if you think she didn’t make a mistake and if she thinks she didn’t then she’s just as likely to get with another criminal lol

You’re the one showing no support by saying she made no mistakes. We are holding him responsible? We’re holding him so much responsible that we say men like him don’t even deserve a relationship, (even if he didn’t hit women) he still beat random people on the street, and he deserves no one. So it is indeed the opposite

MisterExclusive “but she knew what he was about when she got with him? That’s what I said, if you get with a toxic guy, you get poisoned, she learnt the hard way, next time she’ll make better choices.”

I said that , I had another comment but it’s been removed like 4 weeks ago or something but I didn’t even say it in that either.

MisterExclusive “but she knew what he was about when she got with him? That’s what I said, if you get with a toxic guy, you get poisoned, she learnt the hard way, next time she’ll make better choices.”

I said that , I had another comment but it’s been removed like 4 weeks ago or something but I didn’t even say it in that either.

MisterExclusive I never even said that lol... you’re putting words in my mouth

MisterExclusive I never even said that lol... you’re putting words in my mouth

@Yung Thug are you seriously trying to blame her for him almost murdering her? Jesus, people these days are fucking horrible.

@Yung Thug are you seriously trying to blame her for him almost murdering her? Jesus, people these days are fucking horrible.

Violet Heavensbee can’t believe you’d let your family members date men like that or even you yourself, that’s actually disgusting, because ur looking from hindsight, Christie made a mistake and was coerced, but ur looking 3rd party and still saying she made no mistakes, basically telling her it’s okay to get with men like that as “plenty don’t beat their partners” what statistic do you base that on?

Violet Heavensbee can’t believe you’d let your family members date men like that or even you yourself, that’s actually disgusting, because ur looking from hindsight, Christie made a mistake and was coerced, but ur looking 3rd party and still saying she made no mistakes, basically telling her it’s okay to get with men like that as “plenty don’t beat their partners” what statistic do you base that on?

@A Polar Bear On Youtube what did he say

@A Polar Bear On Youtube what did he say

considering her profession, you'd think shed be used to guys beating her.

considering her profession, you'd think shed be used to guys beating her.

@Slumped When you try your best but you don't suceeeeeeed

When you type what you want but not what you neeeeeeeeeed

@Slumped When you try your best but you don't suceeeeeeed

When you type what you want but not what you neeeeeeeeeed

Berlynn Clark women don’t report their abuse because of people like you, not us lol, you smother them, say it’s all okay etc, you made good choices, you didn’t make a bad decision, meanwhile I’m here stating red flags and signs of violent men, warnings, women who are stuck in abuse are actually in denial, that’s why they’re so forgiving from sudden drastic changes of their partner (angry to remorse) so it keeps them being in denial, that’s why they don’t report it, you help nothing with that from what you put, if she accepted she made a bad decision, she’s more likely to report him and back out of the relationship, meanwhile you keep her on the in denial wall by saying her choices are aren’t the problem. She needs to know her mistake was getting with him in the first place, and she’s now in deep water, it’s okay to have that mentality and not consider it blaming herself, she needs to know she was blinded and coerced by him.... yeah you help with nothing, you might help her mentality after the fact, but do you really? She’s just as likely to fall for a man exactly like warmachine again if she genuinely thinks she didn’t make a mistake.

ICA509 it’s does play a huge role especially considering the fact she knew exactly what type of man Warnachine is, in private and out

ICA509 it’s does play a huge role especially considering the fact she knew exactly what type of man Warnachine is, in private and out

@Yung Thug i think there's something in her background that made these type of men attravtive to her. I think she knew what he was like in public but once in private he treated her differently and so she thought that he's not really like that or maybe she could change him eventually. I dont think that she enjoyed or didnt care at all that he hurt other people but she thought thats just his issues and because hes so nice to her she downplayed the seriousness of what he does to others. But this also does point to a a person that is much more focused on themselves and their needs rather than others. He was sweet to her so she ignored or blocked out what he did to others. Not that I think she's a sadist like him or enjoys others being hurt but she definitely cared more about her own experience with him and that meant to her much more than the experiences he had with others. He also probably downplayed them, blamed the other person, made hinself into a victim, used his dad's death as an excuse etc etc. She didnt deserve or ask for that to have happened to her. But she did miss major red flags and foolishly thought she could tame an insanely violent mentally disturbed individual such as him. His behaviour w her also made it easier to justify that maybe he wasn't the one at fault or that he's different now or will be with her help. On a side note however her sending him that topless pic makes me think she might have a serious attraction to danger and violence because if she was broken up with him AND had another man in her bed why still try to seduce him? It's interesting that not many people mention that fact because I think it plays a significant role in the dynamics of their relationship

@ICA509 I dunno what you think you read, but clearly it wasn't what I wrote. You're just as bad as other victim blamers, you're the type of person that is part of the problem with women not reporting their abuse. And nothing you say will erase the four years of abuse I withstood from two different people. I hope you grow to be a better person than you're obviously making yourself out to be. Consider yourself blocked.

@ICA509 I dunno what you think you read, but clearly it wasn't what I wrote. You're just as bad as other victim blamers, you're the type of person that is part of the problem with women not reporting their abuse. And nothing you say will erase the four years of abuse I withstood from two different people. I hope you grow to be a better person than you're obviously making yourself out to be. Consider yourself blocked.

@Morbid Doll a psychology degree? Lol you clearly stated earlier it was a psychology class that you took. Lol! When it can support your position you have no qualms about exaggerating or downright lying. You aren't as smart as you like to claim. Those that claim they know the most usually know the least

@Morbid Doll a psychology degree? Lol you clearly stated earlier it was a psychology class that you took. Lol! When it can support your position you have no qualms about exaggerating or downright lying. You aren't as smart as you like to claim. Those that claim they know the most usually know the least

@Morbid Doll lol what you're is a victim of your own delusional thinking. And why keep using such a tragic experience as abuse to support a comment you made on Youtube? No one else so far has done that. Using that angle when it's not even needed seems very opportunistic

@Morbid Doll lol what you're is a victim of your own delusional thinking. And why keep using such a tragic experience as abuse to support a comment you made on Youtube? No one else so far has done that. Using that angle when it's not even needed seems very opportunistic

@Yung Thug thing is some girls actually like those type of guys. They're attracted to that type of personality. And ofc he will be extra nice to her because she's a girl that he likes. Or will be nice at first at least. I'm sure she she knew what kind of persona he projected yet she was attracted to it regardless. She just didn't think that he would turn on her like he did. And stating the obvious shouldn't be considered victim shaming

@Yung Thug thing is some girls actually like those type of guys. They're attracted to that type of personality. And ofc he will be extra nice to her because she's a girl that he likes. Or will be nice at first at least. I'm sure she she knew what kind of persona he projected yet she was attracted to it regardless. She just didn't think that he would turn on her like he did. And stating the obvious shouldn't be considered victim shaming

@K C it's not my problem you can't understand text is it, or understand more than 2 ways of thinking, you're quick to say im blaming her, but when i ask a question that puts you on the spot you never reply, because you know i'm right.

@K C it's not my problem you can't understand text is it, or understand more than 2 ways of thinking, you're quick to say im blaming her, but when i ask a question that puts you on the spot you never reply, because you know i'm right.

@Yung Thug “I’m not blaming her” , proceeds to blame her. Shame on you.

@Yung Thug “I’m not blaming her” , proceeds to blame her. Shame on you.

@Yung Thug Yikes Bödvar, you're pushing over a month of this comment thread lol. It might be time to turn off notifications for this. Or don't, this thread was very entertaining to read, even if it is 80% you repeating the same defense over and over in different ways.

@Yung Thug Yikes Bödvar, you're pushing over a month of this comment thread lol. It might be time to turn off notifications for this. Or don't, this thread was very entertaining to read, even if it is 80% you repeating the same defense over and over in different ways.

She’s doing good now she seems happy and she has an only fans rn I’m glad to see her smiling and traveling

She’s doing good now she seems happy and she has an only fans rn I’m glad to see her smiling and traveling

Ivor Biggun damn that was a hard very detailed rebuttal, you really got me with that man

Ivor Biggun damn that was a hard very detailed rebuttal, you really got me with that man

Ash Roberts yep, they help no one, they don’t even know what the term victim blaming means, I’ll give them an example

woman gets with normal guy, he tells her not to wear a certain revealing dress, she goes ahead and wears it, she gets beaten up
A guy says “ she should have not gone against his wishes”

That’s victim blaming

woman gets with a widely known violent man who has a criminal record

guy says “she should not have got with a violent man”

that’s not... here’s why and when I say this I say it as in women as a whole, should not get with a violent man, I’m not saying it like “well what did she expect” I’m saying it as an instruction, DONT GET WITH VIOLENT MEN. she took a risk and made a mistake, it’s a normal thing, that’s no victim blaming that’s not offensive...

a guy goes in a horse field and teases a horse and gets back kicked and breaks his ribs, that’s his fault

a guy goes in a horse field as a short cut to get to his destination and gets charged and stamped on by a horse... that’s not his fault, but he should have accepted that as a risk, he should have hesitated and had another think... he should have gone the long way...

Christie’s mistake was going on that 2nd date, after that she didn’t make any mistakes, it was already too late.. I want women to use their better judgement rather than be enticed by lifestyles etc and bypass what the person is actually about or his history....

I mean a man is choosing a woman and he does not want to be cheated on

woman A. Is single and slept with 50 men, all weekenders/standers

woman B. Has slept with 3 all are relationships

now just because woman A has slept with 50 men does not mean she will cheat no, but logic will tell you the risk is higher with her than it is with woman B who’s only had 3 and all been relationships both women are the same age and are same level of attractiveness

Now the man does not want to be cheated on, like most men of course, so what would be the wisest decision? Based on logic, obviously it’s the woman who’s had 3 somewhat lengthy relationships.

If he chose woman A and she did indeed end up cheating on him, are you really telling me that there was 0 red flags? Come on, and just because I say he should not have made that mistake doesn’t mean I’m saying “meh that’s what he gets, should have chose someone else” coz it’s not 100% she would cheat but it’s a higher chance than woman B, who’s more laid back and committed. If he chose B and she cheated my response would be more like

 “omg really? I did not see that coming I thought she was so right for him”

response to woman A cheating
“Well it sucks for him, but he did not make a good decision with that girl, she wasn’t right for him, he wasn’t about her lifestyle at all”

I bet all you stupid twats if this was a man getting beat up and the woman was a female version of warmachine with criminal records, screaming at people, hitting random workers etc and I said the same shit, not one of you would be arguing against me. It goes both ways, people make mistakes, it’s okay to point that out. What would you say if she came out and said “

“I made a mistake for getting with him in the first place”

what would you say then? Would you say she’s self victim blaming? Lol why’s it okay for her to see her mistake but not me? Should we never bring up anyone’s mistakes? What if her mum said “ you didn’t make a good decision getting with that man” Is her mum victim blaming?... get real.. It’s fine to bring up peoples mistakes. She did not make a good choice getting with warmachine. Simple as that.

@Yung Thug sorry man, but you are blaming people like that, it really does not come of that way. Sorry if I was too harsh, I'm just so tired of seeing misogynists in this comment section.<br>As I said, a better way to go about it is by not attacking the victim.

@Yung Thug sorry man, but you are blaming people like that, it really does not come of that way. Sorry if I was too harsh, I'm just so tired of seeing misogynists in this comment section.
As I said, a better way to go about it is by not attacking the victim.

@SkonteJonte yeah im a lonely low life for wanting women to avoid men with criminal records... Got it

@SkonteJonte yeah im a lonely low life for wanting women to avoid men with criminal records... Got it

@Yung Thug ...You are still going on about this eh 🤣 I just got a notification and genuinely forgot this was a conversation (shout out for the likes by the way people dang) but man here you are, still in the trenches. Well best of luck to you in the battle ahead, you can't say your not committed at this point haha. that's like a month into a comment I don't think I've ever seen that before that's wild my guy haha. I think I'm gonna mute this though I don't want to get notifications on this all year.

@Yung Thug Do you have a life outside of youtube comments? Sure as hell doesn't seem like it.

@Yung Thug Do you have a life outside of youtube comments? Sure as hell doesn't seem like it.

@Yung Thug you have never experienced a relationship yet and I assume you havent kissed a girl? It'll be sad if you never do and I hope you do. Be happy!

@Yung Thug you have never experienced a relationship yet and I assume you havent kissed a girl? It'll be sad if you never do and I hope you do. Be happy!

kari c. You look cute when you’re angry 🤡

kari c. You look cute when you’re angry 🤡

@Yung Thug I dont think you mean to be a bad person. I believe you dont understand her decision as you havent never been in a relationship.

@Yung Thug I dont think you mean to be a bad person. I believe you dont understand her decision as you havent never been in a relationship.

.....they both had a stratospheric need for attention....that’s not debatable

.....they both had a stratospheric need for attention....that’s not debatable

We’ve all seen “that” damaged self absorbed couple other places in our lives.....in the aftermath of this mess MAYBE the two of them have learned some hard lessons about their own behavior and judgment.....

We’ve all seen “that” damaged self absorbed couple other places in our lives.....in the aftermath of this mess MAYBE the two of them have learned some hard lessons about their own behavior and judgment.....

@BoomBappa I think they are just trying to say that she should've noticed the many many red flags before getting in a relationship, but love sometimes stops you from thinking clearly.

@BoomBappa I think they are just trying to say that she should've noticed the many many red flags before getting in a relationship, but love sometimes stops you from thinking clearly.

@Yung Thug and some people (you lol) don't go outside glad to see you're still here LMAO

@Yung Thug and some people (you lol) don't go outside glad to see you're still here LMAO

@Yung Thug lol you've been extending your lack of chromosomes for several months now looool

@Yung Thug lol you've been extending your lack of chromosomes for several months now looool

Nice to see you here, Rae. I'm a big fan <3

Nice to see you here, Rae. I'm a big fan <3

SatanGaveMeaTaco I already explained to them what victim blaming is and examples/scenarios, they clearly don’t read everything and just read 3 lines and that’s it, and they don’t know the definition of an incel tbh,

SatanGaveMeaTaco I already explained to them what victim blaming is and examples/scenarios, they clearly don’t read everything and just read 3 lines and that’s it, and they don’t know the definition of an incel tbh,

@Yung Thug You're speaking facts my man. People are so scared these days to ''blame the victims'' but in some cases these ''victims'' makes some extremely poor decisions. She knew what she got into, and she decided to ignore it and to blindly trust a criminal. She didn't deserve it, no one deserves something like that, but it was her decision to get with this dude and to stick with him. People that call that victim blaming or you an ''Incel'' for saying this, are basically saying that people can't make poor decisions in life that can screw them over.

@Yung Thug she should have seen the signs but like they say love is blind and women especially think they can fix someone who is broken, it takes experience to realize you can't fix anyone except yourself.

@Yung Thug she should have seen the signs but like they say love is blind and women especially think they can fix someone who is broken, it takes experience to realize you can't fix anyone except yourself.

That
"bödvar Thebrutal" guy might have worded himself poorly but I think he has a bit of a point there. Not sure getting with someone who legally changed their name to "War Machine" and threatens to assault people over slurpees is necessarily the best choice to make.

That
"bödvar Thebrutal" guy might have worded himself poorly but I think he has a bit of a point there. Not sure getting with someone who legally changed their name to "War Machine" and threatens to assault people over slurpees is necessarily the best choice to make.

@SuperReaDizzle I opened your comment replies but only saw fighting :(

@SuperReaDizzle I opened your comment replies but only saw fighting :(

Christie is a nice girl, but she’s young and gullible and easily lied to and controlled, that’s what I think, she’s not exactly the sharpest person, just young and gullible and aimed towards the wild lifestyle, growing up as an introvert, this lifestyle would be foreign but exciting to her. That’s just it... she made a bad decision, and what I just described of her explains why she made that bad decision, her standoffish feeling? Well that was the introvert in her warning her, she didn’t listen to the warnings...  where is the victim blaming? Please explain in clear detail, from this analysis, bit by bit why its blaming?

this is victim blaming I’ll give an example
woman gets into a guys car after a few drinks, he met her in a bar, they hit it off, he bought her drinks she was lost in how charming he seemed to be, if only she wasn’t so lost to see that he didn’t have a single drink their whole encounter, he offered her a lift home and then...  well he didn’t take her home for a couple of hours against her will

and then the next day a guy hears about it on the news or however and this guy (victim blamer) says “well she should have known, she should have noticed he wasn’t drinking!!! Why would you get into a strangers caaaarrrrr!!!” That’s victim blaming you utter spoons

Percival Fletcher I expected it before warmachine even got with Christie, before I even knew her name, I follow MMA I expected him to end up in prison for hard time, the moment I saw how he acted on that tv show, same with the pink Mohawk guy, I wouldn’t trust either of them

Percival Fletcher I expected it before warmachine even got with Christie, before I even knew her name, I follow MMA I expected him to end up in prison for hard time, the moment I saw how he acted on that tv show, same with the pink Mohawk guy, I wouldn’t trust either of them

kjhkajdhaks i love your videos but I am not going to lie I was not expecting you here! even though these videos get millions of views they feel like a secret

kjhkajdhaks i love your videos but I am not going to lie I was not expecting you here! even though these videos get millions of views they feel like a secret

@Yung Thug Everything you said was true. This was a case of another woman liking the bad boy and thinking she could change him. And it backfired like it usually does. I’m glad she’s ok though.

@Yung Thug Everything you said was true. This was a case of another woman liking the bad boy and thinking she could change him. And it backfired like it usually does. I’m glad she’s ok though.

You fell into this YouTube rabbit hole too? I love your videos Rae :3

You fell into this YouTube rabbit hole too? I love your videos Rae :3

@Yung Thug Wow. You don't get it at all. Nice victim blaming.

@Yung Thug Wow. You don't get it at all. Nice victim blaming.

So J Sung true but it was the first thread I came across at the time and it’s sort of a semi warning for future women or relatives of such, who think about getting with violent men

So J Sung true but it was the first thread I came across at the time and it’s sort of a semi warning for future women or relatives of such, who think about getting with violent men

@Yung Thug Do you know why you're getting misunderstandings for your valid points?? Because you posted them on a comment thread that was meant to wish her well, it's so ignorant to comment "she should've seen it coming" to someone commenting "I hope she is thriving".

@Yung Thug Do you know why you're getting misunderstandings for your valid points?? Because you posted them on a comment thread that was meant to wish her well, it's so ignorant to comment "she should've seen it coming" to someone commenting "I hope she is thriving".

@Yung Thug

Its hard for a girl to leave if the other person is abusive.

@Yung Thug

Its hard for a girl to leave if the other person is abusive.

@Yung Thug also i do background checks if i saw assault , I’d run lmao these people are taking what you’re saying so hard because they all just wanna whine about christy. All you did was try to speak your truth which was accurate af. YouTube commenters are weirdos fr.

@Yung Thug also i do background checks if i saw assault , I’d run lmao these people are taking what you’re saying so hard because they all just wanna whine about christy. All you did was try to speak your truth which was accurate af. YouTube commenters are weirdos fr.

@Yung Thug i agree with what you’re saying , i think the issue here is people cannot handle the truth when discussing something disturbing of this nature. It’s all about “sympathy” , desperate attempts at exhibiting their personal empathy. I love being dominated but yes you must learn there’s a fine line between domination and a straight up controlling person. My girlfriend knows i like when she is more tough with me , physically && mentally , but she also is the sweetest thing I’ve ever met && I’ve had to show her that i like domination over time it took a while for her to even slap my ass. 😂😂 with that being said , anyone*<b>***</b> could turn on your at any time. That’s a fact.

@Yung Thug i agree with what you’re saying , i think the issue here is people cannot handle the truth when discussing something disturbing of this nature. It’s all about “sympathy” , desperate attempts at exhibiting their personal empathy. I love being dominated but yes you must learn there’s a fine line between domination and a straight up controlling person. My girlfriend knows i like when she is more tough with me , physically && mentally , but she also is the sweetest thing I’ve ever met && I’ve had to show her that i like domination over time it took a while for her to even slap my ass. 😂😂 with that being said , anyone****** could turn on your at any time. That’s a fact.

@Meschach Horne if you don’t know first hand what it’s like you won’t understand. It’s like trying to say a continuous rape victim should have reported it way earlier before it escalated. It’s difficult, it’s hard, it’s messy, and yes it’s a choice. But no the victim is not to blame in any way.

@Meschach Horne if you don’t know first hand what it’s like you won’t understand. It’s like trying to say a continuous rape victim should have reported it way earlier before it escalated. It’s difficult, it’s hard, it’s messy, and yes it’s a choice. But no the victim is not to blame in any way.

@Alexander Redhorse I have never heard that word until today. Definition?

@Alexander Redhorse I have never heard that word until today. Definition?

@SuperRaeDizzle lol your thread got toxic af

@SuperRaeDizzle lol your thread got toxic af

The connection between a victim and an abuser is strong, confusing and many people don't understand that. They both made that happen. Ofc he deserved his sentence btw, i'm not standing up for him

The connection between a victim and an abuser is strong, confusing and many people don't understand that. They both made that happen. Ofc he deserved his sentence btw, i'm not standing up for him

@Yung Thug he manipulated her and killed her into a false sense of security, there is no way to know that it is a real when u are constantly beaten and then loved. You have obviously never been in a situation like this so please don’t talk about it like you understand the victims point of view or the situation.

@Yung Thug he manipulated her and killed her into a false sense of security, there is no way to know that it is a real when u are constantly beaten and then loved. You have obviously never been in a situation like this so please don’t talk about it like you understand the victims point of view or the situation.

@Yung Thug It's scary to see how many guys agree with this guy

@Yung Thug It's scary to see how many guys agree with this guy

@Yung Thug no, I'm not hitting you with vague things, you're just refusing to acknowledge them, and that's on you. Again, the only issue I have is the victim blaming. Which you are doing. You're not gonna be able to work around it. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that you don't think she deserved it. I believe you. "She should have known" is still victim blaming. That verbage is still victim blaming. The rose-colored glasses is maybe a concept you should look up? Then it won't be so vague to you. You picked ONE article out of the bunch, called it vague, and are now trying to tell me I'm straw-manning because of it. That's not what straw-manning is. Straw-manning is you picking abstract things to try to argue against me and not stay on point, the point being "she should have known" = victim blaming. Which I'm still on, hence no straw-manning.

@Morbid Doll I already argued your article, you're avoiding my points, the fact is she DID know who he was before she got with him, if you do a little research outside this video you'd know that... you're bending my logic towards a scenario where a woman didn't know anything about the guy, but she did, that's my argument. I don't know if you missed my coment on your article you must have done, either that or you ignorantly left it out. There's a big difference between a victim who had 0 idea and a victim who had every idea, you saying "red flags can't be seen through rose glasses" doesn't mean anything, what did you mean by that? That she was too in love with him to care about his previous assaults on random people etc or what? you're hitting me with vague shit all the time and i am providing a very detailed explanation in multiple ways, i've debunked your artical which you use against me in the wrong way as it points towards a victim who is completely unaware of the suspect..... You're arguing with the wrong person, you put me in the same boat as someone telling a woman "she's a sl*t she deserved it" lol...... that artical proves you dont understand my position...I'm blocking you because i've give you like 4 chances to know my argument with my detailed explanation and your opinions are exactly the same as your first comment, proves you don't listen or understand anything what I say.

@Yung Thug that whole sentence was ignorant 🤦 and just proving my point. Psychology tricks? I'm just talking facts.

@Yung Thug that whole sentence was ignorant 🤦 and just proving my point. Psychology tricks? I'm just talking facts.

@Morbid Doll okay first of i said a few disagreed with me not 3, so that's a strawman and you dont get to just brush the ones who agree with my opinion away and call them victim blamers without any facts, you debating random people is not evidence or factual on what we're arguing here, there are no facts to what we're arguing, I have a very relaxed opinion and you do, but you're aggressively shoving yours down my throat claiming it to be fact... It's not. you're using the term "victim blaming" at me like i'm some sort of monster, even though you know yourself that I don't have ill will against the woman, i think she deserves a great guy and she made a dumb mistake of getting with a roid head like warmachine and looking at what warmachine was like at the beginning of the video which was even public before she got with him and i even said myself he's gonna do something bad one day as I follow UFC and i was very well aware of this guy at the time the vast majority of people should know that he's not right and should not let him into your life.. Doing so is a dumb mistake it's not blaming her, me saying she should have known like the vast majority of people would have and saying she made a dumb mistake is not victim blaming... that's my argument and you're beating around it with all these vague terms, trying to put me in a position where I look like the bad one, you're strawmanning not adressing things properly.. What you say is not fact, it's opinion, there are 3 varieties, and as i said people disagreed with me but didn't say I was victim blaming.. Stop trying to put yourself in an authoritative position over me, your argument comes from ignorance, I've provided enough explanation on my argument, you ignored every part of it except took 2 sentences out of context, AFTER i have put far more detailed explanation on them in previous comments.... I'm done with you, you may have college degrees and whatever, but you really suck a debating lol, you're the one attacking me with ignorant vague terms and I'm defending my positions with explained detail on each part.no one is making me look like fool, my position has already been explained in full detail, and you ignoring that makes you the fool.... Good luck with debating in the future, but you aint putting your authoritative ignorance on me :) P.S No I don't believe in flat earth nor am I anti vaccine...... The fact that you just brought that up just made me lose that much more respect on you and your authoritative ignorance.. So childish.

Berlynn Clark let me put it to you this way in terms of psychology of the decision

a guy comes to a cross roads, 2 gates, 1 gate says “shortcut but danger” the other says “the long way” both gates close behind you..... now at this point he is free of choice, free to make the decision without manipulation, he then decides to make the mistake of choosing gate 1 (danger) the gate closes behind him...... he is now stuck and a victim

Christine saw the danger before she got with him, she then decided to go for that 2nd date, the gate closes behind her, she’s now stuck and a victim of his manipulation. She was not a victims before that date when she knew about his life.... if you don’t understand or see a relation in this analogy, then I’m sorry but that’s not my problem. Your term of “victim blaming” is very vague, where I’m from victim blaming means as it sounds.. the fact that you don’t understand that means you ain’t very good at psychology, I don’t care what college you went to. People have different uses of these terms and it’s clearly proven in the diverse comments here, at least 5 people agree with what I put, and they probably don’t see it as victim blaming, 2 guys disagreed with me but didn’t say I was victim blaming and others said I was victim blaming so that’s 3 different opinions, your opinion and your psychology degree is not an authoritative position....

@Yung Thug "When I challenged this group of people, calling them out for victim-blaming, they stated that the abuse wasn’t her fault and of course she didn’t deserve it, but still, she should have known better. They couldn’t seem to equate their attitudes and chosen verbiage to victim-blaming." From: http://www.seethetriumph.org/blog/victim-blaming-why-you-might-be-part-of-the-problem. I can also send you other articles of why your chosen words of "she should have known better" ARE, in fact, victim blaming. Shall I?

@Yung Thug excuse you, I have taken a psychology course in HS and in college, I know what I'm talking about. And, as I've said before, I am also a person who was a victim of abuse. You don't get to say I'm an idiot when you think I'm wrong, because 1) that's not how that works, and 2) your example is not the ONLY form of victim blaming, you need to learn.

@Yung Thug excuse you, I have taken a psychology course in HS and in college, I know what I'm talking about. And, as I've said before, I am also a person who was a victim of abuse. You don't get to say I'm an idiot when you think I'm wrong, because 1) that's not how that works, and 2) your example is not the ONLY form of victim blaming, you need to learn.

Berlynn Clark no, victim blaming would be me saying she deserves it, I never said that, and she doesn’t she was not a victim at the point of the beginning of the relationship, which is what I was talking about... for women not to get with guys who attack random people on the streets and roid rage etc..

let me tell you what victim blaming is
1. Woman wears sexy outfit
2. She is sexual harassed/abused
3. Idiot says “she provoked him wearing stuff like that”
that’s victim blaming, so get some knowledge will you

@Yung Thug wow, what leaps you make. Nothing of what I said indicates anything you accuse me of. I do not advocate for that, and as I'm a person who's been a victim of abuse, shame on you entirely. All I said was that you are victim blaming, how that equates to me advocating for toxic relationships is a leap Evel Knievel couldn't have made. She should have known = it's her fault, it's her fault = victim blaming, no matter how you look at it.

@Yung Thug wow, what leaps you make. Nothing of what I said indicates anything you accuse me of. I do not advocate for that, and as I'm a person who's been a victim of abuse, shame on you entirely. All I said was that you are victim blaming, how that equates to me advocating for toxic relationships is a leap Evel Knievel couldn't have made. She should have known = it's her fault, it's her fault = victim blaming, no matter how you look at it.

Robertas Vaicius yes finally, someone gets it, and thinking like that is not victims blaming

Robertas Vaicius yes finally, someone gets it, and thinking like that is not victims blaming

@Yung Thug Damn there were so many red flags though and I feel bad for the girl and the guy that almost got choked to death. But holy sht the amount of red flags.. I personally wouldn't see myself ever falling for an obvious toxic person because they usually hide it well until they spring the trap, but this dude screams roid rage.

@Yung Thug Damn there were so many red flags though and I feel bad for the girl and the guy that almost got choked to death. But holy sht the amount of red flags.. I personally wouldn't see myself ever falling for an obvious toxic person because they usually hide it well until they spring the trap, but this dude screams roid rage.

Nah! She’s probably sharing somebody else’s bed every week as per usual!

Nah! She’s probably sharing somebody else’s bed every week as per usual!

@Tj Benson - He isn't blaming her. Everything he said is true. I love how holding someone responsible for their actions gets turned into "victim blaming".  You must have missed the part where he said she didn't deserve it.

@Tj Benson - He isn't blaming her. Everything he said is true. I love how holding someone responsible for their actions gets turned into "victim blaming".  You must have missed the part where he said she didn't deserve it.

@Aedin Harpster - What did he say that wasn't true? If you play with fire you will get burned.

@Aedin Harpster - What did he say that wasn't true? If you play with fire you will get burned.

TheFachen I don’t talk to toxic men.... thanks

TheFachen I don’t talk to toxic men.... thanks

@Yung Thug literally "she should have known" IS victim blaming, so legit just accept that's what you've done and move on to try to be a better person.

@Yung Thug literally "she should have known" IS victim blaming, so legit just accept that's what you've done and move on to try to be a better person.

@Yung Thug  unless youve been in an abusive relationship, please dont state such ignorant and uninformed opinions. toxic relationships have this hold on you, this strong hold. they break you down slowly, make it hard for you to leave. it sucks and your opinion about how she shouldve known better is just victim blaming at its finest.

@Yung Thug  unless youve been in an abusive relationship, please dont state such ignorant and uninformed opinions. toxic relationships have this hold on you, this strong hold. they break you down slowly, make it hard for you to leave. it sucks and your opinion about how she shouldve known better is just victim blaming at its finest.

@Yung Thug this is just hidden victim blaming

@Yung Thug this is just hidden victim blaming

@Yung Thug it's like leaving your front door and garage wide open and getting robbed.

@Yung Thug it's like leaving your front door and garage wide open and getting robbed.

@Umar Abdullah hate to break it to you, but you still a human being even if you work in the adult industry. I hope you practising what you preach, because I bet you checked her out in her vids. She is making bank still and helps other survivors of domestic and sexual violence. So kudos to her 👍

@Umar Abdullah hate to break it to you, but you still a human being even if you work in the adult industry. I hope you practising what you preach, because I bet you checked her out in her vids. She is making bank still and helps other survivors of domestic and sexual violence. So kudos to her 👍

@Yung Thug every post was you trying to justify your victim blaming. Every. Single. Thing. Victim blaming. What an awful thing to say. We all make poor choices in life, but to say it's her own fault she knew what type of man he was? People fall in love and see what they want. Hopefully they then see clearly to leave situations like this. But it can be hard. I really hope you change your outlook, because victim blaming is not okay, no matter who the person.

@Yung Thug you blame her choices, but you forget that she left him by choice. She made the move to better herself and end that relationship. The only reason they crossed paths again was because she forgot he had a key. <br>  You're victim shaming and it shows your true despicable nature for all to see.

@Yung Thug you blame her choices, but you forget that she left him by choice. She made the move to better herself and end that relationship. The only reason they crossed paths again was because she forgot he had a key.
  You're victim shaming and it shows your true despicable nature for all to see.

@katie j I'll help you out, this is it
I agree with most, said, someones violent past wont stop every woman dating them I guess, i am harsh on some of it because if no one is harsh, and setting a bad image on angry/violent people then many more women will keep falling into their trap, i mean maybe 1 woman read my first comment and was close to getting into a relationship or speaking with a violent guy, maybe my comments deterred her away from him, which is worth it in my opinion, or a friend/brother of a girl who's about to get into a relationship with one, and they took some hard reality from what i put and stopped them... I still stand strong on violent people or people with anger issues don't deserve anyone

But let me clarify the victim blaming bit more with this, if my friend/sister got with a known violent guy and ended up basically in the same situation as christy and i wanrned them and they didn't listen to me, I would not blame them at all, I would help them, I'd even fight the guy myself if i had to, I mean it's likely not gonna be a pro MMA fighter and I've done boxing and taekwondo, so i'd fancy my chances, but yeah i would help them get through it, i'd be hard on them with like "I wish you listened to me at the start" etc i mean i'd hug them and tell it'll be okay and stuff I'm not a monster lol, i think people just took my stuff way too serious, i just wanted to spread a message hard to really deter people from these guys.

@katie j read my last 3 comments, you're not understanding me, coz that's nothing to do with my argument, my last 3 comments show this.

@katie j read my last 3 comments, you're not understanding me, coz that's nothing to do with my argument, my last 3 comments show this.

@Yung Thug why would you say that? how do you know she knew he was toxic from the beginning? also are you aware of how difficult it is to escape an abusive relationship?! it’s hard!! it’s also terrifying especially if they are physically abusive. i understand you have an opinion but it doesn’t belong as a sub-comment on a comment wishing an abuse victim (did you here what she went though?!? wtf?!?) the best. i know what abuse is like. it’s hard to escape and people blame the victim. DO NOT BLAME THE VICTIM. i think you’re disgusting for blaming her. she didn’t deserve it, she didn’t ask for it, she is a victim. i still can’t believe you’re blaming her. it’s gross.

@Yung Thug he broke into her house after she left him.

@Yung Thug he broke into her house after she left him.

@Yung Thug  Yeah, I understand the youre coming from. Of course, a guy with a fighting past won’t always beat his girlfriend and a nice guy won’t always stay nice. Though your statement is a bit general, I agree on the level that is woman should be aware of who their dating, though ideally these men should be stopped before they get close to any woman.

@Yung Thug  Yeah, I understand the youre coming from. Of course, a guy with a fighting past won’t always beat his girlfriend and a nice guy won’t always stay nice. Though your statement is a bit general, I agree on the level that is woman should be aware of who their dating, though ideally these men should be stopped before they get close to any woman.

@kelsey stroud well you made a good argument, I agree with most, said, someones violent past wont stop every woman dating them I guess, i am harsh on some of it because if no one is harsh, and setting a bad image on angry/violent people then many more women will keep falling into their trap, i mean maybe 1 woman read my first comment and was close to getting into a relationship or speaking with a violent guy, maybe my comments deterred her away from him, which is worth it in my opinion, or a friend/brother of a girl who's about to get into a relationship with one, and they took some hard reality from what i put and stopped them... I still stand strong on violent people or people with anger issues don't deserve anyone

But let me clarify the victim blaming bit more with this, if my friend/sister got with a known violent guy and ended up basically in the same situation as christy and i wanrned them and they didn't listen to me, I would not blame them at all, I would help them, I'd even fight the guy myself if i had to, I mean it's likely not gonna be a pro MMA fighter and I've done boxing and taekwondo, so i'd fancy my chances, but yeah i would help them get through it, i'd be hard on them with like "I wish you listened to me at the start" etc i mean i'd hug them and tell it'll be okay and stuff I'm not a monster lol, i think people just took my stuff way too serious, i just wanted to spread a message hard to really deter people from these guys.

@Yung Thug my point is that your points aren’t valid to me. sure, he had crime history. but these were “fights” as in what he was in jail for was essentially pretty basic stuff that anyone with some anger issues and usually chooses fight over flight could get into. of course she knew this, but because he was nice and loving at the start, she likely thought that he had moved on from this. and if you’ll recall, she said that he would remove himself from situations and didn’t begin being violent and abusive until months into the relationship. yes, women should generally avoid being with violent men, but sometimes things happen. despite the fact that she knowingly got with someone who had been violent in the past, it was not wrong of her to think that he had changed based on him being loving in the beginning. i also think that it’s wrong of you to have different amounts of sympathy for victims if relationship abuse because she went for a “tough” guy whilst other go to a nice guy who turns abusive. abuse victims shouldn’t be put on a sympathy scale, what happened to her is equally as awful as if it had happened between a seemingly perfect nice guy and a girl.

kelsey stroud for those who gonna keep commenting ignoring my points i'll put them here clear

1. I know it's hard to get out of an abusive relationship, I'm not arguing against that, look back.

2 He was a proven violent thug, she knew that, and still decided to get into a relationship with him

3. to all women out there, avoid men like Warmachine or the dude with the pink mohawk in the TV show and many others like them..

4. if you know how violent a guy can be to other people and treat others like shit and still get with him... I will have less sympathy for you than a girl who gets with a genuinely nice guy at the start, dont harm anyone (perfect example chris watts but beater not killer version) and ended up getting beaten badly by him that situation genuinely would take that woman by surprise, she didnt want anythign to do with wild, vile, toxic men, and was going for a chill relaxed laid back guy, completely different to warmachine.

So those are my points argue against those, stop making shit up that i havent even said, because you can't be assed to read.. IF YOU IGNORE MY POINTS AND DONT ARGUE AGAINST THESE 4 POINTS AND MAKE UP SHIT I DIDNT SAY OR RAMBLE ABOUT SHIT THATS NOT MY ARGUMENT then my reply will be to copy and paste this from now one

@Yung Thug yes, he had a history, but after what happened to her, how could you say that? you’re calling her gullible for thinking that he loved her? saying that though she didn’t deserve it, it was her fault for walking into the situation? blaming the victim? really? that’s terrible.

@Yung Thug yes, he had a history, but after what happened to her, how could you say that? you’re calling her gullible for thinking that he loved her? saying that though she didn’t deserve it, it was her fault for walking into the situation? blaming the victim? really? that’s terrible.

@Kingoftheslams wow great argument man, you really stumped me on that one...

@Kingoftheslams wow great argument man, you really stumped me on that one...

@Brenanas I would be wrong if what you were saying was against my argument, but its not, coz i never said any of that.... you probably just read 3 lines of one of my comments and made the rest up on your own lol

@Brenanas I would be wrong if what you were saying was against my argument, but its not, coz i never said any of that.... you probably just read 3 lines of one of my comments and made the rest up on your own lol

Sadly, given her chosen profession, she'll probably be in a lot more abusive relationships.

Sadly, given her chosen profession, she'll probably be in a lot more abusive relationships.

@Aida Bobadilla saying that she made stupid choices isn't the same as blaming her.

@Aida Bobadilla saying that she made stupid choices isn't the same as blaming her.

@MEEMS Well you're the first to make a proper argument against me, that's true I don't know her history before she met him, which could have drawn herself more to his lifestyle, that's true. Thanks for the valid argument and understand my points and I may have been cold at first saying not showing sympathy etc I meant more so  VS like a woman who genuinely chooses a chill guy who to everyone seems like a good honest man, no violence etc, and then he turns bad on her to her surprise and locks her in that situation. But yeah I didn't take christi's past before warmachine into a account for that...  A shame it took so many commnents for someone to show this argument coz they read what i put the wrong way.

@Aleph O This is probably the worst analogy I've ever heard. He wasn't a serial killer, and actually had no past records of domestic abuse, so again it is no way her fault and she had no need to expect anything or see this coming. This was all on John and no one else.<br>It's 2020, we need to stop blaming the victims.

@Aleph O This is probably the worst analogy I've ever heard. He wasn't a serial killer, and actually had no past records of domestic abuse, so again it is no way her fault and she had no need to expect anything or see this coming. This was all on John and no one else.
It's 2020, we need to stop blaming the victims.

@DIO Sure. If you date Ted Bundy and we find you lifeless the next day, we can all agree that Bundy shouldn’t have done it. Can you agree that dating Ted Bundy is a bad choice that you shouldn’t have made? Can you agree that such choices shouldn’t be encouraged? I hope you don’t think ‘Plz: tell serial killers not to kill ppl.’ is a more useful conversation. But maybe you do, I don’t know.

@DIO Sure. If you date Ted Bundy and we find you lifeless the next day, we can all agree that Bundy shouldn’t have done it. Can you agree that dating Ted Bundy is a bad choice that you shouldn’t have made? Can you agree that such choices shouldn’t be encouraged? I hope you don’t think ‘Plz: tell serial killers not to kill ppl.’ is a more useful conversation. But maybe you do, I don’t know.

@Aleph O That has no bearing on the case. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ASSAULTED HER. Full stop. It's in no way her fault.

@Aleph O That has no bearing on the case. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ASSAULTED HER. Full stop. It's in no way her fault.

@DIO The information that allows us see that he was a bad person was public knowledge in 2014. She knew who he was and chose to overlook it.

@DIO The information that allows us see that he was a bad person was public knowledge in 2014. She knew who he was and chose to overlook it.

Aaron Carver taking all this shit and you wouldn’t say it to my face in real life tbh

Aaron Carver taking all this shit and you wouldn’t say it to my face in real life tbh

Aaron Carver hahaha damn bro, no need to take it to heart. Not my fault you don’t read properly XD and I do feel sympathy just not the same level of sympathy for a woman who gets with a guy who genuinely seems nice and later manipulates and abuses, this video is completely different she knew what he was about from day 1 she took a risk so I have sympathy but not as much as a woman genuinely coerced like my level of sympathy for Christine is probably same level for someone who’s a parkour free runner guy and falls and gets injured badly, you know he loved doing what he does but there’s the risk he took it he knew it was risky from day 1 so it’s “get well soon, and don’t make that same mistake again” that’s the sympathy or more like advice. You’re just only able to read things 1 way your biased way, and that’s not an argument and it’s not my problem... Good luck

Aaron Carver I already know random guys can become a domestic abuser that wasn’t my point and I already know it’s hard to get away from manipulative people but look back at every thing I put I never argued against that and those women/men who go through it do get my sympathy coz they genuinely thought the guy/girl was a good person until it was too late but, my point was women should be careful not to date PROVEN violent thugs like warmachine

Aaron Carver I already know random guys can become a domestic abuser that wasn’t my point and I already know it’s hard to get away from manipulative people but look back at every thing I put I never argued against that and those women/men who go through it do get my sympathy coz they genuinely thought the guy/girl was a good person until it was too late but, my point was women should be careful not to date PROVEN violent thugs like warmachine

Aaron Carver yes and I was referring to proven beforehand violent thugs like war machine so you missed my point again lol

Aaron Carver yes and I was referring to proven beforehand violent thugs like war machine so you missed my point again lol

@Yung Thug And all of that has nothing to do with anything because at the end of the day despite your crazy rants,  if you watched that entire video and didn't feel empathy or sympathy your a weirdo...full stop haha.

@Yung Thug And all of that has nothing to do with anything because at the end of the day despite your crazy rants,  if you watched that entire video and didn't feel empathy or sympathy your a weirdo...full stop haha.

@Yung Thug ....from what I've posted you've gotten the impression that I not only condone this guys behavior but I would be his friend and want him to date my family 🤨. Your either grasping at straws or you have a really hard time understanding very straight forward points people are making dude. That was a hail Mary blitz of crazy if I've ever seen one robot man 🤣 my guys having a meltdown over there.

Ps: when I said people date people who aren't great I didn't mean warmachine haha, you said you shouldn't date toxic people and put yourself in that position earlier and that was a response to that..."people date people who aren't great all the time doesn't mean..."
Then I described some terrible things he did which I thought made it clear he was garbage by his actions...but I guess you mistook that for me being cool with him dating my sister somehow and being my best buddy?

Aaron Carver it’s all gone quiet over there.it’s all gone quiet over there haha, shithouse... another one fails to answer and just blabs on shit I’ve already previously stated is not my argument and I’m fully aware of.

Aaron Carver it’s all gone quiet over there.it’s all gone quiet over there haha, shithouse... another one fails to answer and just blabs on shit I’ve already previously stated is not my argument and I’m fully aware of.

@Yung Thug Not feeling empathy or sympathy for someone who went through horrific experiences is way more robotic then being compassionate. Not a very good comparison my guy 🤣

Ps: doesn't help your case that in your name you have "the brutal". Giving off some sketchy vibes over there. If you asked me to check out a basement I would probably say no to be real haha.

@Yung Thug Not feeling empathy or sympathy for someone who went through horrific experiences is way more robotic then being compassionate. Not a very good comparison my guy 🤣

Ps: doesn't help your case that in your name you have "the brutal". Giving off some sketchy vibes over there. If you asked me to check out a basement I would probably say no to be real haha.

endiness endiness Jesus Christ another robot?

endiness endiness Jesus Christ another robot?

@endiness endiness just saw this dudes post and was like you have got to be kidding me, read the other responses like yours and it's good to see other people caught that what he said was horrible...this freakin guy but glad to see people call him out for that haha.

@endiness endiness just saw this dudes post and was like you have got to be kidding me, read the other responses like yours and it's good to see other people caught that what he said was horrible...this freakin guy but glad to see people call him out for that haha.

@Yung Thug ...Dude he said now he has to kill her and kicked her so hard she started convulsing. The fact you don't feel any sympathy or empathy for that also says a lot about you. People date people that aren't great all the time....but it doesn't mean that because they made a decision to get with the wrong person they should suffer years of physical and mental abuse, be threatened to be killed, have their animals attacked, be put in the hospital all for people to say well she didn't deserve it but it's not like I'm gonna feel bad....date nice guys instead girl. No that's so messed up. I hope she's doing okay and I feel terrible she had to go through that, this was a tough video to get through and you might be a sociopath.

@BoomBappa right, the guy who commits assault multiple times on bouncers, gives everyday workers grief and threats, acts like a maniac in his own videos and on TV, claims to get excited over certain execution methods... but sure, he doesn't come across as an abuser..... Got it... I guess you'd give a guy like that a chance of being your friend then? Lol... this also answers your paragraph too.

@BoomBappa right, the guy who commits assault multiple times on bouncers, gives everyday workers grief and threats, acts like a maniac in his own videos and on TV, claims to get excited over certain execution methods... but sure, he doesn't come across as an abuser..... Got it... I guess you'd give a guy like that a chance of being your friend then? Lol... this also answers your paragraph too.

@amc right, the guy who commits assault multiple times on bouncers, gives everyday workers grief and threats, acts like a maniac in his own videos and on TV, claims to get excited over certain execution methods... but sure, he doesn't come across as an abuser..... Got it... I guess you'd give a guy like that a chance of being your friend then? Lol

@amc right, the guy who commits assault multiple times on bouncers, gives everyday workers grief and threats, acts like a maniac in his own videos and on TV, claims to get excited over certain execution methods... but sure, he doesn't come across as an abuser..... Got it... I guess you'd give a guy like that a chance of being your friend then? Lol

@Yung Thug Dude, no one needs your sympathy. Get off your high horse. No one asks for this and expects this shot because the abuser doesn't come off as an abuser before he has her locked in.

@Yung Thug Dude, no one needs your sympathy. Get off your high horse. No one asks for this and expects this shot because the abuser doesn't come off as an abuser before he has her locked in.

A Polar Bear On Youtube you obviously didn’t read my points, it’s okay, try again.

A Polar Bear On Youtube you obviously didn’t read my points, it’s okay, try again.

@DIO you didn't answer my question by the way about meeting a guy at a bar becoming friends he seems like a great guy etc and you later search his name and see multiple arrests and his videos raging about small shit and also him acting like a piece of shit on TV, would you meet him again? for drinks and be his friend? Yes or no and why?

@DIO you didn't answer my question by the way about meeting a guy at a bar becoming friends he seems like a great guy etc and you later search his name and see multiple arrests and his videos raging about small shit and also him acting like a piece of shit on TV, would you meet him again? for drinks and be his friend? Yes or no and why?

@DIO she could see it? she just chose to ignore it. LIKE HELLO MULTIPLE VIDEOS ROID RAGING AND ARRESTS before they even met eachother... and no shit, im not blaming her for him hitting her lol? when did i say that?, and i said she should have expected it as a possibility, not that it's 100% likely to happen but it's likely, and yes it is the main issue he shouldnt hit her, but telling violent people not to hit people is like telling a serial killer not to kill people.... THEY ARE WHO THEY ARE and no one will change that, so the best advice is to tell people not to get in relationships with violent people because of the high risk of being abused. Thats my entire point i'm literally warning girls about this and you're giving me shit for it lol? forget this incident and just view it in general, Don't get in a relationship with a man if he's got a violent past!

@Yung Thug I'm not continuing this because you're completely ignoring what I'm saying lol. Just because you can see it, doesn't mean everyone else can. People can be vulnerable. The fact you feel the need to avert the blame to her by saying she should have expected this is absurd. How about he shouldn't have assaulted her?? Does that not seem to be the main issue here??????

@Yung Thug I'm not continuing this because you're completely ignoring what I'm saying lol. Just because you can see it, doesn't mean everyone else can. People can be vulnerable. The fact you feel the need to avert the blame to her by saying she should have expected this is absurd. How about he shouldn't have assaulted her?? Does that not seem to be the main issue here??????

@DIO my point was she should have known there was a good chance it would come, and she took the risk. And it is easy for me to say and it's easy for me to do, i have met toxic guys as friends ofcourse and i stop talking to them at the first signs of them acting like a roid head and if i knew beforehand they acted like shit to other people i wouldn't even speak to them in the first place or let them speak to me. if you met him and he seemed like an alright guy and told you he did mma and that and you though ahh cool could be good friends etc and then later searched him and saw the way he acts, would you meet him again to go for drinks or whatever? Yes or no? and why?

@Yung Thug It does, it's so easy for me, you or anyone else to say that but you are not the person who met him or was in this relationship. You have no business saying that she should have saw this coming or whatever else you said a while ago.

@Yung Thug It does, it's so easy for me, you or anyone else to say that but you are not the person who met him or was in this relationship. You have no business saying that she should have saw this coming or whatever else you said a while ago.

@DIO yes it doesn't matter what he made himself out to be, you can clearly see what he is just be searching his name, before the domestic abuse he was still violent......... So yes he is that kind of person.

@DIO yes it doesn't matter what he made himself out to be, you can clearly see what he is just be searching his name, before the domestic abuse he was still violent......... So yes he is that kind of person.

@Yung Thug Just because you can see what kind of person and wouldn't be with a person like that, doesn't mean that everyone is like that. You're looking at this case from an outside perspective, I'm willing to bet that he made himself out to be a better person to those he met in person.
This is a horrid, horrid thing that happened to her and your points are so disrespectful.

@Yung Thug Just because *you* can see what kind of person and wouldn't be with a person like that, doesn't mean that everyone is like that. You're looking at this case from an outside perspective, I'm willing to bet that he made himself out to be a better person to those he met in person.
This is a horrid, horrid thing that happened to her and your points are so disrespectful.

Aida Bobadilla I’m not blaming her I’m simply saying what did she expect, Getting with a guy like that? If you were to line up a bunch of random guys and check their records/personalities and were to determine which guys were going to commit domestic abuse, he’d be at the top of that list by a country mile.

I mean imagine a girl asking about your impale tattoo and saying “when I was a kid I watched Dracula and saw people being impaled and it got me excited”....

@Yung Thug yeah, this aint it....... victim blaming at its finest👌🏽

@Yung Thug yeah, this aint it....... victim blaming at its finest👌🏽

@Yung Thug everyone's an incel these days. the word dont mean anything anymore

@Yung Thug everyone's an incel these days. the word dont mean anything anymore

Aedin Harpster but she knew what he was about when she got with him? That’s what I said, if you get with a toxic guy, you get poisoned, she learnt the hard way, next time she’ll make better choices.

Aedin Harpster but she knew what he was about when she got with him? That’s what I said, if you get with a toxic guy, you get poisoned, she learnt the hard way, next time she’ll make better choices.

@Yung Thug  this is a really fucked up thing to say especially after what he did to her.

@Yung Thug  this is a really fucked up thing to say especially after what he did to her.


My mother was a victim of domestic violence and after awhile, it took her life. That abuse cycle they talked abt is very real. If you see a friend or a stranger that looks like they are being abused, please tell someone.

I’m so sorry for your loss. Your mother deserved better and I wish she was still here with you.❤

@willl 88 I know. They have a wonderful man looking out for all of us.

@Kevin Uchiha my kids were 6 ,3,1 and a newborn at the time of the last incident in 2017  They have not seen their dad in over a year and I dont regret it. I moved over 100 miles away and we are doing pretty good. It change my life completely but we are safe which is my number one priority.

You're so right. Sorry about your mom <3

@Noly V-Romero Same with my mother. She walked out when i was 6 and my sister 9. That was almost 20 years ago and both my sister and mother is still emotionally scarred from it. I was a bit to young to actually internalize it i think. But my mother would've probably stayed longer if they didnt have kids which would've resulted in her killing herself. She just recently admitted to me that she still thinks about suicide but doesn't do it because she know that it will hurt me and my sister.

Im glad I walk alive from my last relationship. I couldn't let my kids watch me like that.