I don't really see how this guy didn't get minimum life to the death sentence. He is literally a threat the second he leaves prison to the mother and daughter...  That dude shouldn't get out of prison.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D this guy was on his like 10th chance and he wasted every opportunity to get better. I love to always try to see the good in people, but this man is too far gone in his ways. If he get out, he’s a threat to so many people.

He's not eligible for parole until he's 72, and if his behaviour to date is any indicator he probably won't get it even then.

Judging by his smile in the court, they are not safe even if he stays behind tge bars. It was silent "they are dead, theyvare all dead".

@Some Black Guy With A Big D agree but he’s had enough of second chances. He’s absolutely capable of killing ANYONE for no reason. He is easily triggered

@Democratic Brotherhood of St Nicholas in all fairness, Trump was 73 and almost destroyed an entire country. His negligence killed at least 0.5M people.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D If you almost died because of his beatings or a loved one of yours, would you say the same thing?🤔

He didn’t kill them. If you get same sentence for killing people and attempted murder it gives the people who do the rapes and assaults far more motive to kill the victims and remove the evidence as best he can. Would you have wanted that to be the end of the video like so many others in this channel?

And people do not often go after their victims, expecially after so long in jail.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D if this happens to your relative would you still the same thing

@Bail no.  Not all places even have the death penalty

Okay so it looks like a lot of people fell for a troll trap, this "Some white guy" is obviously trolling, if he was serious about his opinion he would actually defend this statement. It looks like he posted his comment to anger people on purpose

Don't worry he won't be doing anything at 60 years old.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D That is definitely not true. If that were the case, they wouldn't have people being locked up for life that are deemed too dangerous to be out in public on their first offense.

@Ipad Air look up Jerrod Murray and please explain to me what happened to make him want to kill Sanchez. Yeah he tried to kill himself when he was five but there was no abuse he was just a crazy sadistic lazy shit

@Some Black Guy With A Big D agreed, everyone deserves a second chance.

If one reads about so called "evil" people, one would find they became evil due to something tragic in most cases, not all. And they can become good again, if properly rehabilitated.

He'll be 71 before he's even eligible for parole. Too old to be a serious threat to many people. Imagine that, his whole life thrown away. And for what? An ex girlfriend who moved on?

Some people are born dumb.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D You're really living up to your name, huh

@Felix Sieger He is gonna be in his 60s by the time he gets out. I doubt he will be much of a threat to anyone.

@Some Black Guy With A Big D Where do you live? You need to get to a asylum

I mean he was 35 at the time and got a minimum of 36 years, do the math lol it's basically a life sentence.

To be fair though, thirty six years MINIMUM, is a long time. Think about it like this: The guy was what, thirtyish? At the time he got this sentence, that is. Add on another thirty six, so we're talking at least sixty four years old by the time he gets out. Even if he doesn't mature mentally or just loses motivation during that time, he'll be well past his prime, physically if nothing else. Any tantrums he attempts to throw at that point will just make people giggle. It's actually the Ultimate Karma. (;

Second chance? He beat her up time and time again. This wasn't a one off.  Did you not hear the bit about her face being slammed on the dashboard, chipped teeth and the rest?

@Some Black Guy With A Big D reminds me of the "Dead Man Walking" ep of *Small Town Dicks*, which features a man who had an obvious fixation for the control and power of his family. he ultimately decided to annihilate them. no, i would not give everyone a second chance, because if he is unable to stop his fixation, he only proves to be a cause of danger towards the sources of that fication

You know you can only get the death sentence for murder right?

@Some Black Guy With A Big D this guy had sooooo many chances, he’s way past a second chance

@Some Black Guy With A Big D he already had his second chance, and he blew it

@Some Black Guy With A Big D are you insane???? This guy????? A second chance?????

@Some Black Guy With A Big D Would you give someone who repeatedly beat up, raped and finally almost kills one of your loved ones a second chance?

@Some Black Guy With A Big D This is simply untrue. Not everyone deserves a second chance.


This dude is 100% a narcassist. Who the hell reacts like that pouring a slurpee all over the floor because some poor cashier says he needs to take the hood off his head??? His reaction to jump to violence is scary. I can't understand how he had so many women as fans, or how he managed to get a girlfriend at all. He literally has woman beater written all over him.

I'm quite good looking, healthy and sportive. I would say I'm a gentle man. But I'm quite shy. Do you think I get approached by girls often? You know the answer, and you should therefore know the answer why he got a girlfriend at all......

The real reason so many women want to be with someone dangerous like him.. it's not so much about him as it is their own ego.  They want to "tame" the beast so they can feel they're better than the other women he has been with.  While it's obviously very ignorant, it's the way of the world.  Every decision, most anyone makes, in the end boils down to their ego and trying to think they're better than other people.

So disgusting. Kind of hilarious how he feels the need to wear a tank that says “I do alpha male shit.” A real alpha male doesn’t need to go around blasting it on his shirt 😂😂😂

You know that thousands of women write loveletters to convicted serial killers right? For some reason women get turned on by these violent men.

@Colette Vanderbilt go to anger management classes

U know this might sound crazy asf but I'm a 27 year old female considered pretty and petite by most lol and most people always assume that I am a really sweet girl and a nice person and I really truly hope and I feel like I am too but sometimes as much as I hate it I can get so fricken angry just like him for no reasonable explanation and I wish that I could explain it to someone or even just to myself but I still really do love all of my friends and family and honestly everyone in the whole entire world that I know of but I just can't explain it like I said but sometimes I get fucking the hulk pissed off and can't help it

I can't believe I have to argue this but women generally do not want to be with someone that will abuse them. The only reason they end up in these relationships is because they get manipulated into them.

@Orb that's not true. Generalizing here but women do like dating the "bad boys". Do you have female friends? Just ask them

@repsandgrooves or they just think they love them and it's not that bad and it won't happen again.  It's only when you're removed from a situation that you can really see it for what it is

@Guinness 100%. Totally agree. And yes, men get abused, too. And it's the same thing, some either want that attention - are afraid to be single - or think they can't leave. It's sad that it  happened

@repsandgrooves it ain't that deep mate, don't stress over it.  Women are a law unto themselves,  don't even try and understand them.  Just know how they are. Some women grow up with drama in the family,  some women grow up with abuse,  some grow up being abused,  some are just f#$@ed in the head,  they could have baggage for any number of reasons.  It ain't just women either,  plenty of men get into abusive relationships.  Sometimes it's hard when you're in one to see the wood for the trees.

@Orb bullshit.  I mean sure there's people like that but loads of girls love the idea of a bad boy.  Trust me I know.  You don't need to be manipulative,  as soon as they realise what you're about or even think you're about that they throw themselves at you,  believe that

@Guinness It hurts my head, and frustrates me. They want the bad boy boyfriend, then question why they are being mistreated by the bad boy.

@ras al'Asad Steroids simply elevate your personality. If you're naturally aggressive and angry, they'll beef that aggression and anger.  This guy was a POS before he started using.

I know many guys that use gear that have never acted out like this.  Their personality didn't change. They didn't rage or anything.

He's just a pos.

@Orb They do have a choice. Sounds harsh,  but they do.
They can talk to someone about the abuse and control, but they don't. They can leave, but they don't. There are those women that want the abuse. It's attention and "love" to them.

A mutual friend of mine was controlled and beaten by her partner. She left after the first time. She reported it. She told family and friends. And her ex got a few years in jail for domestic violence, kidnapping and assault. If she didn't say anything, it could have gone on longer.

Where these other girls .."But, but, but, I love him!". No. A man lays his hands on you, get out.  That's not love.

@Guinness That's wrong. The reason many women end up dating "bad boys" is because bad boys use manipulation tactics to get these women.

The reason so many women keep ending up in abusive relationships is because they're attracted to men like him.  Lots of women, for some reason, like the idea of dating a bad boy.

@repsandgrooves That's not true. These women don't have a choice. They are manipulated to join the relationship and then can't get out without the threat of physical violence

I think it's more about steroids and roid rage then narcissism

@ras al'Asad The narrator did mention he was abusing steroids right before that point. But yeah, it is pretty obvious either way.

That's how people react to petty things when they're taking steroids. Testosterone off the roof, picking fights with anyone for anything and an emotional rollercoaster. <br>Even if the narrator of the video didn't mention roids, I could tell easily by his behaviour, jaw size increase from previous images, veins popping and his face getting bigger.

That's how people react to petty things when they're taking steroids. Testosterone off the roof, picking fights with anyone for anything and an emotional rollercoaster.
Even if the narrator of the video didn't mention roids, I could tell easily by his behaviour, jaw size increase from previous images, veins popping and his face getting bigger.

Honestly that was the most reasonable thing in the whole video. If someone asked me to take my hat off in a store like 7/11 I'd be pissed.

@repsandgrooves it's instability, abuse, stunted emotional growth.<br>Notice how the girl doesn't have a father.

@repsandgrooves it's instability, abuse, stunted emotional growth.
Notice how the girl doesn't have a father.

I hate to blame the women in this scenario, but victims of abuse will sometimes seek out secondary abuse afterwards. It feels "normal", so it's more comfortable than a healthy relationship. Not saying all his fans are abuse victims, just that its a common phenomenon that could be the case for a lot of them.

Haha yeah man can fall for the wrong girl/women too 😂😂 That we (girls) already know she is b.ch she is only nice to him and once she has what she wants (marriage or child... AND the money ?) she will let her mask fall nd show her real character... Goodbye sex, etc... somehow men fall for it so often. Good looks are nice... but also overrated. If someone girl or man is a A..hole he for sure doesn’t look that pretty anymore... AND vice versa... a good character MAKES a person beautiful... the latter last the longest.

@Seronin Aran Only once but we don't speak of that lol ;P

my ex liked to make me angry just to see my face and attitude go beyond limits...(even her friend mentioned how ''manly'' ''bad boy'' i became and liked it). Then i thought should i go through sedative pills etc.. i finaly choose to let her go and break up and i felt so free that i thought i could fly, couldnt be happier.

There are women that like the 'bad boy' type. The abuse is attention, strange but it's true. Common sense tells people to get out of danger. But these types somehow have a need to stay. They know there's a risk but they also have a "I  love him" mindset. It's really weird


I feel absolutely horrible for Christie. I hope she’s able to find some peace in her life. I hope she can heal and find love and live her live peacefully. This was absolutely violent, dehumanizing. She shouldn’t have ever had to experience that. NOW ON THE OTHER HAND they better keep that man in a hole. For the rest of his life. He better not ever get out of prison ever!! He is absolutely dangerous. ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS. Unhinged.

@Velky Lev he obviously wasn't like that in the beginning and she did leave him smart one and he attacked her after she did.

@Tasnim K Are you suggesting her stupidity had nothing to do with it.

@Velky Lev "all her own fault" so no blame lies on the abuser. Lol okay

@Velky Lev  honestly yea, it’s crazy huh

@Velky Lev  honestly yea, it’s crazy huh

@Velky Lev let's play "Spot the Elliot Roger"

@Velky Lev you're ignoring a lot of factors here. Not everything is black and white.

@Velky Lev another thing to add, an inability to be empathetic is not indicative of intelligence, it's quite the opposite.

@Velky Lev the video even explained it, an abusive relationship is more complex than it looks. There is a whole psychology behind it, there are different phases, for example the honeymoon phase where the abuser "change for the better", it affects the victim not only physically and psychologically. Maybe you would cut ties with that toxic person, but u are u, she is she, everyone is different. Also, an abuser isn't dumb, yes they are fukin dunutholes but they know what they are doing and WHO they are doing it, they go for good heart people, introverts and that forgives easily, like Christie.

@Velky Lev I bet you get no action, no attention romantically, and very few friends. So you resent women and say horrible things like this on the internet to finally get that attention you crave more than anything. I hope she calls you back.

@Thanos Pat lol wtf are you talking about ?
It has nothing to do with it .

Damn right I've never been in such relationship , because I don't ignore red flags , I don't get together with psycho violent people .

She ignored red flags,  even her mother warned her about him .
He was a  psycho before they got together and it was clearly  obvious.
It's all her own fault for ignoring all this .

@Velky Lev unless you have been in that type of relationship you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

@Velky Lev mate. you literally compared a building that can't do shit to a human being who can be fully held accountable of their actions. yes this guy was very violent and a walking reg flag from the beginning but do you know how manipulation works? abusers manipulate their victims into falling for their "traps" until it is too late to get out. and if you say it is easy to not get manipulated then you're simple wrong.

@Tasnim K yes , I just compared those 2 . You clearly missed my point . So I am going to say again .
This guy is crazy , violent idiot and she still decided to be with him , so its her fault.
I would never get together with this guy if I was a woman , i wouldn't even be a friend with him as a guy  , I stay away from such people .
You get it now ?

@Tasnim K yes , sometimes it's the victims fault.
 If I jump out of building and break legs it's my fault not the building's fault .
So i am a victim but still my fault for jumping

@Velky Lev ahhh yes blame the victim yes ofc

@monky That has nothing to with doing well.

And he will EASILY find a new girl to coerce and abuse.

She's doing very good nowadays, 3.8 million followers on instagram


Respect to how strong the mother is. Jon relies on steriods to support his fragile 'alpha' personality. The mother is the true alpha here.

She's no Alpha, That "momma bear kill anything that harms my daughter" instinct was red lining. If she had a gun in that courtroom, she would have killed him without even a hint of a second thought.

Mom's are nice... Until we're not.

@Silviu Florin Cultures/societies are a lot more nuanced than a simple alpha/beta dichotomy.

@pkap617 Look up two comments and see the person saying that.

@James Gastovski the whole alpha thing comes from a study done on packs of wolves, later on the same guy who did the study later revealed that the whole alpha thing he theorized about was wrong.

@Alex Yeeeup. Just like all the white supremacists with tattoos of swastikas are insecure about their race. When you have internalized an emotion or feeling about yourself you do not feel the need to advertise, promote or gather in cliques to show off or act out. You are your own man, not the worlds.

@James Gastovski You don't respect them, you fear them, and that's a common theme in America today.. fear.  Don't confuse the two.. you do it with your cops and military also and look where its gotten you... because nobody else respects fear... its an american phenom.

Yeah she is cuz it's sure as hell not you lol.

Wait. So you're telling me the dude that had his name legally changed to Warhammer and started a brand called "Alpha Male" was actually insecure regarding his masculinity?

James Gastovski Most of them look for validation which makes them look weaker and ridiculous

Does a "Strong" mother let her own daughter get involved in pornography?

@TIME! why not? Shes getting paid for sex. She ain't hurting no body.

@TIME! It was the ADULT daughters choice of career.  This isn't like Macaulay Culkin or Taylor Momsen with pushy parents impacting her childhood.  Beyonce Knowles mum is shit as she used to style Destiny's Child?

Next you'll say she's a shit mum as her daughter does porn.....don't see you commenting about the behaviour of the parents who raised an abusive rapist.... prat.

@James Gastovski You think alpha only has to do with fighting lol.

James Gastovski Exactly but I don’t respect fighters hurting ppl is not good & not kool🥺


Okay but she protected her dogs before trying to protect herself and that's wild. Imagine being that selfless. I wish I could just hug her or something like that.<br>Edit : wow thanks for the 2k. Reading the comments are super interesting.

Okay but she protected her dogs before trying to protect herself and that's wild. Imagine being that selfless. I wish I could just hug her or something like that.
Edit : wow thanks for the 2k. Reading the comments are super interesting.

@Saturated Cat I would thing I brought him here try dog didn’t I know exactly how that feels.

@Saturated Cat I would thing I brought him here try dog didn’t I know exactly how that feels.

@Saturated Cat yeah it depends case by case and how one is built tho it really really just comes down to loke someone here said to what u love more and i do agree that praising a animel life over a human life is wrong to do tho i can understand the motive

@Saturated Cat yeah it depends case by case and how one is built tho it really really just comes down to loke someone here said to what u love more and i do agree that praising a animel life over a human life is wrong to do tho i can understand the motive

@Roelofnl  I understand what you're saying, but a human life is more important than even 2 dog lives.

Also I don't necessarily agree, men have been known to die from a single punch to the head. It's not really that simple.

@Roelofnl  I understand what you're saying, but a human life is more important than even 2 dog lives.

Also I don't necessarily agree, men have been known to die from a single punch to the head. It's not really that simple.

@Saturated Cat  one thing I'd like to say about this dogs human thing is the guy can take a beating the dogs can't so if u can argu with urself do j save 1 life or multiple (with multiple i mean do the 911 call etc and whatever transpired) tho i havent watched the full vid qnd probs overheared alot but i do think that if the warmachine guy was there with the dogs one of them would have died

@Saturated Cat to some people, dogs are like their children. Maybe that’ll help u understand? Idk

@Saturated Cat to some people, dogs are like their children. Maybe that’ll help u understand? Idk

@Saturated Cat The video shows you why animals are better than humans, humans can be evil, animals arent evil

@Saturated Cat The video shows you why animals are better than humans, humans can be evil, animals arent evil

@Saturated Cat There was nothing she could do to help the other man, her ex was a PROFFESIONAL FIGHTER who, again, FIGHTS PROFFESIONALLY, who is more than twice her size and has beat her up for a long time, she knew she'd lose so she made sure to protect the most vulnerable ones here, the innocent pets, any logical person would understand why she did that.

Honestly, as an animal lover and pet owner, I would think about my animals being safe before thinking of myself too, or at least I'd imagine I'd do that, it's incredible that in the moment she DID think of that. What an amazing woman and protective animal momma.

Honestly, as an animal lover and pet owner, I would think about my animals being safe before thinking of myself too, or at least I'd imagine I'd do that, it's incredible that in the moment she DID think of that. What an amazing woman and protective animal momma.

Having someone (even a pet) that you want to protect is actually a really good motivator to get the adrenaline rush going. Most people are naturally driven to protect things weaker than them in a situation like this.

Having someone (even a pet) that you want to protect is actually a really good motivator to get the adrenaline rush going. Most people are naturally driven to protect things weaker than them in a situation like this.

Nah, I'm a woman, 5'5"...
I'd have leapt from the bed and fled the apartment.  Had I found a phone on the way out, use it to dial 911 as I ran.
If no phone, run to place that seems 'safe' to scream hysterically for help/have people call 911.
I have cats, but I would NOT have thought of them. Honest.

Nah, I'm a woman, 5'5"...
I'd have leapt from the bed and fled the apartment.  Had I found a phone on the way out, use it to dial 911 as I ran.
If no phone, run to place that seems 'safe' to scream hysterically for help/have people call 911.
I have cats, but I would NOT have thought of them. Honest.

@Saturated Cat And in the eyes of the law what law did she break? It's not about the "animal over human thing", Its about the fact that she has more feelings towards the dog than the new boyfriend because she clearly spent more time with them and love them than a new boyfriend she barely knew. If i have to choose between my dog who i spent 3 years+ with a girl i just met i would've done the same and prioritize the dog

@Saturated Cat @ItssssJack @this_entire_cursed_thread I think what is missing in this conversation is the fact that she is an abuse victim, not just a one off time, but over several events over a period of time. This greatly affects a person physically and mentally and effectively "trains" them to react a certain way at the start of an attack in an effort to minimize the damage suffered. As she stated in the video, he had lashed out at the dogs before. What is not said is the timeline between the animal abuse and her abuse (which would occur first during his violent outburst). It's very easy to assign priority in a logical fashion from the comfort of our computers/phones while in a safe environment, but that was very much not the case in this moment. It could very well be that the onset of his attack on the BF triggered an automatic response that she has had to go through before rather than rational thought. I personally commend her for at least doing something, anything, to deal with the situation regardless of "order" simply because taking any kind of action in such a terrifying situation is extremely difficult. We simply cannot apply the lense of a calm safe mind that has not dealt with this kind of abuse to this situation to bare judgement.
To add my own personal example:
Any time people get extremely angry and start screaming at me my first instinct is to....start cleaning. It makes no logical sense UNTIL you hear the context behind the connection between the two. I had an extremely abusive mother who was boarderline OCD about having a clean house. Every single time she went into one of her outburst it always resulted in hours long cleaning session of the entire house. Every time. After years of this pattern in became engrained in my brain that violent outburst and potential safety threat=time to clean. Even after years of being removed from that environment I still struggle to break that connection and if I am feeling unsafe or scared of something I tend to start to clean.

@Saturated Cat Well, many people view dogs as family. In that case, I think it's pretty understandable she had an instinct to let them out as they have been with her longer than her boyfriend. For myself - I have pet rats and if I know somebody would harm them, I would do EVERYTHING to protect them before myself or my spauce. They were with me during the best and the worst, offering love and comfort that I didn't get from any other human. Maybe that's because I'm autistic and can't communicate with people the same as a neurotypical person would which often leads to being ostracized and repudiated. Animals never repudiated me and my rats love me regardless of my stims, weird noises I make or the fact I am sometimes unable to communicate verbaly. That's why I would put my animals over other people.
Also you don't know if she used a smartphone. She may had to go into the other part of the house to use a stationary phone and let her dogs out first as opening a door doesn't take a lot of time - and less than talking with 911 operator which John could have heared and run to interrupt her.
Also also - she was in an extreme situation and probably did everything at once. She was on autopilot and it is cruel to judge her choices that were based on instincts. And I don't think a morality that puts a dog's life over human's life is worse than putting human life over dog's life. As long as you are not harming them and you are in an extreme situation and have to choose. A person that first calls 911 is not worse than a person opening the door - and it is true in the other way. Moralities of individuals are not always determined by what is legal and what is not - sometimes it is bad, but usually not.

@Charlie Brown Unless you're the man that needs help, right? ;-)

@Charlie Brown Unless you're the man that needs help, right? ;-)

Protect the grown ass muscled man or protect the creatures who will be there for you, risk their lives for you and love you unconditionally like no human can? Easy choice. If someone wants to clutch their pearls and condemn me for it, go right ahead.

Protect the grown ass muscled man or protect the creatures who will be there for you, risk their lives for you and love you unconditionally like no human can? Easy choice. If someone wants to clutch their pearls and condemn me for it, go right ahead.

@Dawson Woolford I'm not judging her at all, already clarified that in other comments. My issue is with people in the comment section praising her for  thinking of her dogs first.

Also, you said: "Also, they are HER dogs, and I’d sure as hell run into a burning building to save my kid or relative over a stranger I don’t really know."

Which is amusing, because it looks like you subconsciously changed the object of your sentence from dog to human. Instead of saying "I'd run into a burning building to save my dog" you wrote "my kid or relative", as if you realized mid-sentence that it's not acceptable to save your dog over a human.

I can't stand the militant "animals are better than humans" people who spread their anti-human hate everywhere online.

@Dawson Woolford I'm not judging her at all, already clarified that in other comments. My issue is with people in the comment section *praising* her for  thinking of her dogs first.

Also, you said: "Also, they are HER dogs, and I’d sure as hell run into a burning building to save my kid or relative over a stranger I don’t really know."

Which is amusing, because it looks like you subconsciously changed the object of your sentence from dog to human. Instead of saying "I'd run into a burning building to save my dog" you wrote "my kid or relative", as if you realized mid-sentence that it's not acceptable to save your dog over a human.

I can't stand the militant "animals are better than humans" people who spread their anti-human hate everywhere online.

Anyone giving her crap for protecting her dogs is speaking like she was in a perfect state of mind. You’re talking as if she was able to think clearly and stress free, OF COURSE she would have wanted to help her boyfriend, and OF COURSE she would want to save her dogs. Humans have fight, flight or freeze and she quite clearly acted on impulse. You can say you’re not victim blaming/shaming as much as you like, but she did what she did in that moment when she was terrified for her life. You’re disgusting for criticising the way she reacted when her life was in danger. You have no right to criticise her actions when her life was in danger.

@Isabel Oh speaking of the person who judged Corey Thomas for his choices that night. I will reiterate: YOU WERE NOT THERE. You have no right to judge anyone for the choices made that night, and I’m pretty sure Christy wouldn’t judge Corey for his choice to -oh I don’t know - run for his life?! He also stated he didn’t hear anything from inside the house, and I don’t know if you are aware at how disorienting a single punch to the face can be, never mind the many War Machine actually threw. You seem to have forgotten a woman was beaten and raped by the same man Corey was assaulted by, and yet you deem the best person to be attacking and shaming is Corey himself? Makes no sense.

@Saturated Cat I mean if you were in her position, “letting the dogs out” is probably not just a choice she made at the time, but in fact a habit as a result of abuse. She’s just following her protocol; dogs get let out, and she gets beaten. Dogs also don’t have the contextual awareness of what’s happening/going to happen, and an argument could be made it would be far more traumatizing to a dog since they can’t understand why they’re getting hurt. Also, they are HER dogs, and I’d sure as hell run into a burning building to save my kid or relative over a stranger I don’t really know. It’s different in this circumstance, but again, people were also upset that Corey Thomas (the new boyfriend) didn’t run back in to save Christy from Jon. As if any sane person would come to the defence of a person whose ex-boyfriend is a trained fighter after getting beaten by that same fighter. I don’t really know why people are nitpicking the facts of the incident and the choices the people made at the time, when they weren’t there and think just because they know what happened means they are at liberty to judge these choices.

@Ashley Welch You have funny long way of describing codependent personality

@Ashley Welch You have funny long way of describing codependent personality

@Rob Polaris how do you even know what her thought process was? Defenseless animals vs a grown man. Do you really think it took her that long to let the dogs out ? ? Don’t judge her for an action she made while her assailant was on a rampage. What about that very person who just left and assumed that the individual who almost KILLED him wasn’t going to Attack the girl ? Where is the judgement on him for not going to the police and leaving her there to be assaulted and almost killed for 2 hours ? What the hell….

@Saturated Cat ok i understand your point of view, but why is this even an argument? Why are you going after a victim ? Ok she protected her dogs and ?? In a situation like this I don’t even know how I would react ? Let’s be honest you don’t know either. I don’t think anyone was saying “yesssss good thing she protected an animal before that guy”. People are saying that she had a nurturing instinct to protect her animals that she’s cared for. I think you need to rewatch this video and attack the actual monster here, not a young women who was almost killed.

@Saturated Cat no…. The cops were called when she escaped.

@Saturated Cat no…. The cops were called when she escaped.

@Saturated Cat have you ever owned a dog? Dogs are highly stressed animals. They would of barked and made the situation escalate way more. She wasn’t going to get in between them for obvious reasons. And opening the door for the dogs probably took a second, she mentioned it because it’s the steps she took. She didn’t put her dogs life before the guys or hers. Like put yourself in her shoes.

She is probably a lovely person, but putting human life below a dogs is not healthy, normal and shouldn’t be praised. I love dogs! 🐕 But I would never save a dog over a person…well maybe “war machine”.<br>Thinking a dogs life is more important than hers is the same kind of mentality that allowed Christy to stay with someone horribly abusing her.

She is probably a lovely person, but putting human life below a dogs is not healthy, normal and shouldn’t be praised. I love dogs! 🐕 But I would never save a dog over a person…well maybe “war machine”.
Thinking a dogs life is more important than hers is the same kind of mentality that allowed Christy to stay with someone horribly abusing her.

@Kabanio I think he means that she spent time saving the dogs that she should have spent on 911 to save her boyfriend. Every second she spent saving the dogs was a second later that the cops arrived and that could easily be the difference between life and death if he managed to stop the barrage verbally.

@Kabanio I think he means that she spent time saving the dogs that she should have spent on 911 to save her boyfriend. Every second she spent saving the dogs was a second later that the cops arrived and that could easily be the difference between life and death if he managed to stop the barrage verbally.

@Saturated Cat These people are insane....They value dogs life more then human life......She could call 911 FIRST and open the door for her dogs and go out with them.....

@Saturated Cat These people are insane....They value dogs life more then human life......She could call 911 FIRST and open the door for her dogs and go out with them.....

@Christopher G true. Good point. Still, had she left them out it could have been 4 on 1 instead of 2( 1 at a time) on 1. But i know, hindsight is 20/20.

@Christopher G true. Good point. Still, had she left them out it could have been 4 on 1 instead of 2( 1 at a time) on 1. But i know, hindsight is 20/20.

@D1RtY R3d her two dogs were pit bulls or a pit mix judging by the photos of them. Doesn’t seem like having them was much of a deterrent to this guy. The dogs probably knew him and recognized him as like, hate to say it like this but, the pack leader/alpha if he had harmed them before and stuff. Idk maybe, maybe. Also maybe not

@Christopher G i do wonder if she had gotten some german shephard or Rottweiler after the abuse started, would this have gone the same way. Don't think it would.

@Christopher G i do wonder if she had gotten some german shephard or Rottweiler after the abuse started, would this have gone the same way. Don't think it would.

Yeah that was a little weird to me, the dogs are protection and I’m also wondering why they didn’t start biting this guy as soon as he came in and started “smashing” 😂, but I guess I understand, she knew he would just kill the dogs or harm them and it wouldn’t make much of a difference. A ufc fighter could probably easily fuck up a dog or two

@Saturated Cat humans suck and i too would pick the dogs first. cry about it, i like her decision.

@Saturated Cat humans suck and i too would pick the dogs first. cry about it, i like her decision.

@Saturated Cat A HUMaN life is worthless in of itself, her pets are reliant on her so she got to them first they’re like toddlers now if it was her mom getting beaten up for example instead im sure her priorities would’ve changed and it’s not like she didn’t react at all to the human life lol

@Saturated Cat A HUMaN life is worthless in of itself, her pets are reliant on her so she got to them first they’re like toddlers now if it was her mom getting beaten up for example instead im sure her priorities would’ve changed and it’s not like she didn’t react at all to the human life lol

@Saturated Cat some people view their pets as their actual kids, so you have no right to say she had her priorities messed up. Her boyfriend was an able bodied grown man, while her pets were pretty much defenseless and dependent on her for their protection. She had every right to protect them as best she could. That’s what is involved in being a pet owner.

@ruby I it's not "a woman caring about her pets". It's the comment commending it as a self-sacrificial act when it is anything but. She protected what she valued most. That's it.

It's not being worked up to point out an enormous oversight such as the other victim who was in the midst of being beaten to death.

I mean, the guy she was dating was in the process of getting beaten to death, but sure. "Selfless"

It's a loving thing, but it's definitely not selfless. She saved HER dogs.

I mean, the guy she was dating was in the process of getting beaten to death, but sure. "Selfless"

It's a loving thing, but it's definitely not selfless. She saved *HER* dogs.

A woman caring about her pets has gotten people THIS worked up? Very telling of one’s character😬

A woman caring about her pets has gotten people THIS worked up? Very telling of one’s character😬

@Bouncing Bunny I sure did, you know what I mean. The other guy was being silly so there was no point in having a serious discussion with him.

@Bouncing Bunny I sure did, you know what I mean. The other guy was being silly so there was no point in having a serious discussion with him.

@Saturated Cat did you really just say that you don’t like people who believe that animals are better than humans, then went on to say that humans are animals themselves when the other guy said he believes in that animals are indeed better than humans ? <br>You can’t even keep track of your statement because of how idiotic it is.

@Saturated Cat did you really just say that you don’t like people who believe that animals are better than humans, then went on to say that humans are animals themselves when the other guy said he believes in that animals are indeed better than humans ?
You can’t even keep track of your statement because of how idiotic it is.

@Saturated Cat in order to make the situation clear they list her actions in order but in truth she probably did everything at once- get her phone, dialling 911, calling the police, freeing her dogs, hiding in the bathroom.

@Saturated Cat in order to make the situation clear they list her actions in order but in truth she probably did everything at once- get her phone, dialling 911, calling the police, freeing her dogs, hiding in the bathroom.

@76illusion thank you friend. Atleast some people are good

@76illusion thank you friend. Atleast some people are good

@Jose Corral agreed 100%. Animals are thousands of times better than humans, and always will be!

@Jose Corral agreed 100%. Animals are thousands of times better than humans, and always will be!

Really strange how some people see animals as less! Us people can defend ourself the poor animals cant do shit!
But hey thats my opinion!!
Ass…..

Really strange how some people see animals as less! Us people can defend ourself the poor animals cant do shit!
But hey thats my opinion!!
Ass…..

@ItssssJack although it may be wrong yeah, western society does have that view

@ItssssJack although it may be wrong yeah, western society does have that view

@Regin The Honey Badger That sucks, sorry to hear that. Probably best to agree to disagree then, we are starting from radically different worldviews and we've already agreed that broader society values human life over animal life.

@Regin The Honey Badger That sucks, sorry to hear that. Probably best to agree to disagree then, we are starting from radically different worldviews and we've already agreed that broader society values human life over animal life.

@ItssssJack we’ll both are true, I wouldn’t want to kill either, however if I was pushed to choose between a human and an animal, I’m saving the animal or killing the person. And yes that is because I have had much closer relationships with animals than I ever have with humans.

@ItssssJack we’ll both are true, I wouldn’t want to kill either, however if I was pushed to choose between a human and an animal, I’m saving the animal or killing the person. And yes that is because I have had much closer relationships with animals than I ever have with humans.

@Regin The Honey Badger I'm not really sure what you mean, to be honest. You are saying you would choose to kill a human over an animal in the case that you have a similar relationship with both? Or are you saying you would be unable to choose either in good conscience? The latter is pretty standard and also somewhat irrelevant, I think most people would not feel comfortable killing something even if they had a good reason to do so. The former seems like an odd position. I assume that people would assign subjective value based on their experiences with animals and humans, with most people having more meaningful relationships with humans (since they can speak the same language, empathize more easily, etc. etc.), but that is only my own projection.

@ItssssJack yes that is true, atleast in western legal systems. I’m just saying my morals don’t allow me to choose humans over animals. Although technically humans are animals.

@ItssssJack yes that is true, atleast in western legal systems. I’m just saying my morals don’t allow me to choose humans over animals. Although technically humans are animals.

@Regin The Honey Badger I wasn't asking who you would save nor was I giving you my opinion, it is simply true that in our legal and ethical systems animal life does not have equivalent value to human life. To be clear, morality and ethics aren't like choosing how to spend your allowance...they are settled in academic and legal settings. With that said: cool story, bro.

@ItssssJack I’m saving the dogs or any animal.

@ItssssJack I’m saving the dogs or any animal.

@Saturated Cat I was not referring to the yes of the law

@Saturated Cat I was not referring to the yes of the law

@Regin The Honey Badger Equal to whom? Dogs and humans are not equal in the eyes of the law, so that is objectively false.

@Regin The Honey Badger Equal to whom? Dogs and humans are not equal in the eyes of the law, so that is objectively false.

@Alex Das Liebe Apparently this is the standard for the dude who is beaten senseless for no reason, but not the woman. It's very, very odd. I think people are getting a little too attached to Christie here. She made a mistake in this instance, it doesn't take away from her bravery in the case nor the punishment that Koppenhaver should receive.

@Regin The Honey Badger If the choice was between her boyfriend who is in the process of being killed and her dogs who are in no immediate danger? Yes, it's not really that controversial. But, let's say hypothetically Koppenhaver was somehow assaulting or threatening to assault either of them and she had to choose? The answer is still incredibly obvious, save the human being and not the animal. This is basic stuff here.

@Saturated Cat dogs are precious and many humans are evil, but they are equal at the end

@Saturated Cat dogs are precious and many humans are evil, but they are equal at the end

@ItssssJack huh? What she should of let the dogs get beaten?

@ItssssJack huh? What she should of let the dogs get beaten?

@Saturated Cat human life is not more important

@Saturated Cat human life is not more important

@Saturated Cat they are equal, I would save any animal.

@Saturated Cat they are equal, I would save any animal.

I always think clearly & rationally when suddenly awakened by a violent physical attack.

I always think clearly & rationally when suddenly awakened by a violent physical attack.

@Saturated Cat  most people see their pets as equal to close family. Which results in comments like this.

@Saturated Cat  most people see their pets as equal to close family. Which results in comments like this.

@Saturated Cat I’d assume it’s because the dogs would likely die if attacked, while she believed the other guy could fight back for a little bit atleast (not as helpless as animals). Makes sense to me

@Saturated Cat I’d assume it’s because the dogs would likely die if attacked, while she believed the other guy could fight back for a little bit atleast (not as helpless as animals). Makes sense to me

@Isabel Yeah it's regrettable, although frankly he should have called the cops for his own sake and not for Christie's. It's strange he would not think to report a man who just beat him to a pulp for having sex with his girlfriend. Still that's WAY different than seeing someone being beaten in front of you and doing nothing about it... Imagine you were that guy getting your ass beat, you'd be totally fine if your boyfriend went to make sure his dogs were okay? Somehow I'm not buying it.

@Saturated Cat Lol the conversation ends when you ask if they are vegan. You can't make this stuff up. "I love animals...if I have a good relationship with them. If I don't then they are like all humans apparently, which is to say completely expendable and deserving of death for my own comfort." Complete lack of ethics and an unflinching endorsement of pure solipsism. AND all the while being sanctimonious.

@Isabel You're putting the events in the wrong order, the police were already on the way by the time he left the apartment.

@Isabel You're putting the events in the wrong order, the police were already on the way by the time he left the apartment.

@Saturated Cat <br>She hid the dogs from him then went into the bathroom to call the police knowing full well that she was going to be facing his violence once he was through with her date. Given the situation I think she acted selflessly on all parts, she protected the animals she loved and made a serious attempt tp get help for her date. It's not a matter of valuing one life over another. She did the best she could when faced with so much violence.

@Saturated Cat
She hid the dogs from him then went into the bathroom to call the police knowing full well that she was going to be facing his violence once he was through with her date. Given the situation I think she acted selflessly on all parts, she protected the animals she loved and made a serious attempt tp get help for her date. It's not a matter of valuing one life over another. She did the best she could when faced with so much violence.

@ItssssJack you all missed the part where the guy getting beat up left christie there with the attacker and did not call 911, and then christie nearly died after bein* beat on for TWO HOURS!!!

@ItssssJack you all missed the part where the guy getting beat up left christie there with the attacker and did not call 911, and then christie nearly died after bein* beat on for TWO HOURS!!!

@Saturated Cat I mean, she had a better chance of protecting the dogs than fighting that big dude off her boyfriend. ALSO her “boyfriend” left her there to DIE, NEVER CALLED THE COPS!!!

@Saturated Cat I mean, she had a better chance of protecting the dogs than fighting that big dude off her boyfriend. ALSO her “boyfriend” left her there to DIE, NEVER CALLED THE COPS!!!

@Saturated Cat if you were born a dog, would you see dogs more importent then human? Let me answer for you. Yes I would. Which means you are being predudice.

@Saturated Cat if you were born a dog, would you see dogs more importent then human? Let me answer for you. Yes I would. Which means you are being predudice.

@thomas2much Not trying to be mean but I honestly don't know what you are saying. There seem to be words missing from your sentences.

@thomas2much Not trying to be mean but I honestly don't know what you are saying. There seem to be words missing from your sentences.

@Saturated Cat If you were born a dog would you bring humans first?  Love is love and I found have a deep love for the humans who they live with.

@Saturated Cat If you were born a dog would you bring humans first?  Love is love and I found have a deep love for the humans who they live with.

@X4A T You must have misunderstood, the new boyfriend wasn't an MMA fighter, the one sitting on top of him, punching away was the MMA fighter.

@X4A T You must have misunderstood, the new boyfriend wasn't an MMA fighter, the one sitting on top of him, punching away was the MMA fighter.

@Saturated Cat people have betrayed me again and again. My dogs have never betrayed me or hurt me in any way

@Saturated Cat people have betrayed me again and again. My dogs have never betrayed me or hurt me in any way

@Saturated Cat I would imagine in most instances, dogs can’t protect themselves like an MMA fighter could

@Saturated Cat I would imagine in most instances, dogs can’t protect themselves like an MMA fighter could

I protected my dogs before myself when a guy who was my friends boyfriend broke into my apartment to steal my 1966 Gibson. I wasn’t horribly injured, but I did end up with 27 stitches and 9 staples, and a broken wrist. If you have dogs, I think most people would protect their dogs first.

I protected my dogs before myself when a guy who was my friends boyfriend broke into my apartment to steal my 1966 Gibson. I wasn’t horribly injured, but I did end up with 27 stitches and 9 staples, and a broken wrist. If you have dogs, I think most people would protect their dogs first.

@Arianna CG Hi, I am not criticizing the victim but rather the comments here. I don't think it's praiseworthy to think of dogs before a human life.
We also don't know how involved it was to let the dogs out so I can't comment on that.

What's disturbing is that many of the other comments here are almost saying humans deserve to die and that dogs are saints. I believe it is a form of mental illness.

@Kabanio I understand she protected the pets but why not run outside with them why go back fuck that I would have ran outside and I came back lol

@Kabanio I understand she protected the pets but why not run outside with them why go back fuck that I would have ran outside and I came back lol

@Saturated Cat she said that he had been violent to the dogs during their relationship, she knew he would have attacked them otherwise, plus simply opening a door to let her dogs out is far more fast than getting the phone and calling the police, what she did immediately after. I really see no need to criticize this poor person.

@Saturated Cat Lol the people you are arguing with are insane XD. How does anyone praise somebody for saving their own dogs over helping somebody being beaten mercilessly? I mean she didn't have to fight him, she could've just called for help or tried to talk him off of the boyfriend... She's selfless, unless it involves another self?

@Saturated Cat your responses are enough for me, thanks kitten 😘

@Saturated Cat your responses are enough for me, thanks kitten 😘

@Saturated Cat ok if you want to argue semantics. Humans are the worst animals in my opinion. That make your cooter feel better?

@Saturated Cat ok if you want to argue semantics. Humans are the worst animals in my opinion. That make your cooter feel better?

@Saturated Cat animals are better than humans. Sir koppenwhateverhisnameis is the perfect example why.

@Saturated Cat animals are better than humans. Sir koppenwhateverhisnameis is the perfect example why.

@Lucifer See my comment above, also, that was very rude of you.

@Lucifer See my comment above, also, that was very rude of you.

@Tara Was it necessary to insult me? If you read my comments again, I'm pointing out that everyone here is commending her for thinking of her dogs before thinking of a human being, which is a very strange thing to commend someone for.

I am not blaming her at all, just thought it was disturbing that both her lawyer and the people in the comments think that's normal.

@Saturated Cat As if you are the one in her shoes? Because you definitely KNOW BETTER than the victim herself right?<br>You were there right? You are one of the witness right? you cant stand the 'animals are better than humans' is it because that dude harmed the dog, by fun or by pure evil intention ? yeah yeah yeah, you are correct as always, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF TO TRULY BECOME A DEGENERATE, ok? im looking forward for that

@Saturated Cat As if you are the one in her shoes? Because you definitely KNOW BETTER than the victim herself right?
You were there right? You are one of the witness right? you cant stand the 'animals are better than humans' is it because that dude harmed the dog, by fun or by pure evil intention ? yeah yeah yeah, you are correct as always, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF TO TRULY BECOME A DEGENERATE, ok? im looking forward for that

@Kabanio To put it more clearly, she obviously should have called the police immediately as a human life is more important. I don't know how involved 'letting the dogs out' was in this case, but precious seconds (minutes?) were wasted.

Maybe you're too focused on putting yourself in her shoes? Try to imagine that you're the boyfriend with an MMA fighter on top of you in a blind rage, what would you want her to do first?

@Kabanio According to her own lawyer, these were her priorities:
1. Save dogs
2. Call 911 (save human life)

That is really messed up to me. But I've never been able to stand the "animals are better than humans" kind of person.

@Kabanio According to her own lawyer, these were her priorities:
1. Save dogs
2. Call 911 (save human life)

That is really messed up to me. But I've never been able to stand the "animals are better than humans" kind of person.

@Saturated Cat What are you talking about? Did you watch the video, the guy is a fighter an she knows what he’s capable of, what do you expect her to do simply push him aside an stop him attacking her boyfriend. She did the next best thing she could do, protect her pets.

@Saturated Cat What are you talking about? Did you watch the video, the guy is a fighter an she knows what he’s capable of, what do you expect her to do simply push him aside an stop him attacking her boyfriend. She did the next best thing she could do, protect her pets.

She also protected her dogs before protecting her boyfriend who was in the process of getting killed. Can't believe you people commend her for that.

She also protected her dogs before protecting her boyfriend who was in the process of getting killed. Can't believe you people commend her for that.

It can be easy to stand up for someone else vs yourself.

It can be easy to stand up for someone else vs yourself.

That’s exactly the type of person that man boy psychos like this go for. The fixers. The protectors. The sweet and kind hearted women that always forgive eventually because they want to believe them when they cry and apologize and beg them not to leave them. They are the only person that’s ever been their for them and they mean everything to them and swear it won’t ever EVER happen again. It always does. Not everyone is a good person like they are, but they literally don’t understand that type of behavior.


I miss you man. I miss this channel so much.


in these video diaries he made, he sounds like a little kid who just learned how to cuss


What kind of mom let's her daughter be abused like this he said he would kill her.... she saw him beat her...she saw the aftermath<br>"My daughters dead"

What kind of mom let's her daughter be abused like this he said he would kill her.... she saw him beat her...she saw the aftermath
"My daughters dead"


Wow. Never heard of these people... Disturbing.


Can someone explain to me why he is so visibly upset when Christy starts elaborating how they met? He looks like he is about to cry. 35:44


THAT WAS A HELL OF AN INTRO! BRAVA!!! I was referred by Observe. My 1st video and I'm obsessed already!


never thought i'd see the day where a video on this channel would open with ben saunders haha


Damn you can really see how the steroids are getting to his head in his slurpy/gym videos..


I wonder if the grenade tattoo on his neck inspired the decal I see on alot of rear windshields, or if it was the other way around. hm....


Will you do an update when he murders someone for “looking at him the wrong way”?


I imagine that stopping steroids will make you lose weight like that. No wonder the guy couldn’t get hard, he had no actual testosterone left in his body.


So glad this video is available again 🙏 What happened to the intro though? 🤔 🎵 Only you can make the darkness light ✨ 🎶


Ironic being so big and strong but at the same time small and weak


I’ve literally never heard of this reality show 😂


Christy sounds like such a wonderful women and seems like a soft soul, I don't understand how anyone could hurt her in such a violent way on MULTIPLE occasions

@Himeka Helle btw, let's make one thing clear, I actually do watch porn so all this here is not judgemental.
It's just facts.
Educate yourself on what these girls in the industry go through during and after their "careers".

" it's 2021 so anyone should be allowed to act porn if they want" is one of the most irresponsible things you could say as an adult.

@Himeka Helle Lmao also if you think my projections are unfounded or based on mere theories, then you're probably living in a bubble.

@Himeka Helle I don't even know what you're talking about regarding Norway. You may want to do some deeper research.
You think all the perversions that currently exist began at the surface? Are you naive enough to not know that they usually started at the grassroots of society where they were frowned upon, before being absorbed by the mainstream and becoming "normal"?

You just wait and see how this stupid idea of sociological progression or evolution (as you call it) goes.

At some point, there will be no right nor wrong, good nor bad. Just " socially acceptable " and unacceptable.

@Koop Malverde And how does society determine what is “okay”? The studies of how the adult industry impacts society – the anthropological, cultural and economic aspects, are all what is taken into account. So no, very unlike “piss I’m the wind”. Your rigid values lacking evolution is more like “piss in cement” if anything. I’m not an expert myself. I understand that there are always many sides to one issue, especially one as complicated as the impact of sex workers and porn. But at the end of the day, they are human beings that shouldn’t be deemed lesser value because of the way they choose to make ends meet, like you said yourself, to survive. I’m not asking anyone to glorify their choices, and you are entitled to not wishing this line of work upon any female, but why not out of sympathy due to  mutual understanding of the hardships and downsides of the possible consequences, instead of a judgmental viewpoint. You are entitled to your beliefs as are others, condemning them to be an inevitable source of further corruption in society is crossing the line, when counter arguments can be made. And I can’t stress enough, they are still people.

@Himeka Helle don't use science and psychology as you excuse for this nonsense because it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. <br>Science or psychology has nothing to do with a Lady turning to adult movies in order to survive.

@Himeka Helle don't use science and psychology as you excuse for this nonsense because it has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Science or psychology has nothing to do with a Lady turning to adult movies in order to survive.

@R No one says to glorify them. Just give them the amount of respect they deserve. They are no lesser nor more than the average person. I’d much rather believe the times we live in are times where we understand the value and necessity of sex workers, and where their rights protected. Sex could be wrongfully obtained through rape/exploitation/manipulation if there is no access to it for those down in luck with relationships, or aren’t suited for them.

@Koop Malverde I’m sorry for you that u can’t find logic in such a simple statement that conveys comparison. For EX, there were times when weed isn’t legal, same sex marriage wasn’t legal, etc. But as science progresses, studies such as sociology, psychology and many more advances as well. We are able to learm more about these social issues and make change in the present day.

@Krisztián You lost me. Do what exactly?

@Krisztián You lost me. Do what exactly?

@K_ you are nothing but jelly that it wasn't you who could do it lol

@K_ you are nothing but jelly that it wasn't you who could do it lol

@Krisztián What, do you think women being beat or raped is an exclusively modern phenomenon? Of course, when it happened in the past it was rarely punished. This guy will spend the rest of his life in prison for what he did, so, yeah, it seems some progress has been made.

@K_ Yeah you are right. pretty good society. The woman was almost beaten to death. 🤣🤣🤣 you wanted equality and feminism you got it.

@LuxFux I already explained it. They're insecure and feel they can't compete in an equal society. That's what they're afraid of, and that's why they yearn for a society that stacks the deck in their favor.

@deepened I agree. That doesn’t change that fact that its becoming more and more normalized and even promoted in alot of cases.

@Himeka Helle what does it being 2021 have to do with anything? You were making a little sense until that rubbish.

I wonder what you would deem acceptable and okay in 2050, just because it's 2050

@Nick that's. why. it. needs. to. be. regulated.

@Nick that's. why. it. needs. to. be. regulated.

The fact this thread has people who sit here and call sex workers degenerates and then again mentions that a lot of them do this because trauma is such bland stupidness to me. If you see something as an issue don't treat everyone like a damn enemy and have some fucking compassion and civilly work towards a fucking solution. Neutral rant over
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I prefer the idea of normalizing sex work mainly because it'll lead to a place where we can regulate it instead of shame and hide it.  I know some people don't want to be exposed to it, but when you want them all to hide there's less and less chances of there being rules and safety precautions. And always encourage people to seek mental help, I honestly believes therapy should be as regular as seeing a doctor, if not more.

@deepened The porn industry is constantly connected to pedophilia. Sexual immorality is something that everyone struggles with, but to ignore the blatant push for its normalcy and sometimes full on promotion does no favors to anyone.

@Genesis B yeah wtf is happening with the family courts where the ex-husbands has to pay for children that was not theirs, has to pay alimony to cheating wives and losing everything in the divorce.

@elchucabagra yeah you are right.<br>Getting married today would be a death sentence to any man. 60% divorce rate and the women gaining custody of kids/majority of assets.

@elchucabagra yeah you are right.
Getting married today would be a death sentence to any man. 60% divorce rate and the women gaining custody of kids/majority of assets.

@Jamescawl dont make good wives? Bro please get out of the basement once in a while

@Jamescawl dont make good wives? Bro please get out of the basement once in a while

@Jamescawl I have no idea. Do you have any statistics to cite on this? Some long term study looking in to the past social conditions and current mental status of adult workers and a causation between those? Definitely nothing of the kind is available on Christine Mackinday; Unless you've got some source of information about her that I didn't come across, you're just using a preconception based on your cultural biases.

@R Thank you. People act like, we have to leave moral and ethical values behind, just because it is a different year. Such people are as uneducated as adult industry workers, that's why they glamorize such lifestyle 😆

Seems like a fairly common way to attack adult industry workers by throwing out a wild fact without substantiation, reframing it as an opinion and then using that as a base; for example "I think most adult performers were sexually abused" or "Most porn industry workers probably have mental issues" and then jumping way across the fence about how the family unit is threatened. Nauseating to think someone can go through such mental gymnastics to make this crime she endured be somehow balanced out because of her career, as if being trapped in an abusive relationship is exclusive to adult performers or """""""moral degenerates"""""""

Seems like a fairly common way to attack adult industry workers by throwing out a wild fact without substantiation, reframing it as an opinion and then using that as a base; for example "I *think* most adult performers were sexually abused" or "Most porn industry workers *probably* have mental issues" and then jumping way across the fence about how the family unit is threatened. Nauseating to think someone can go through such mental gymnastics to make this crime she endured be somehow balanced out because of her career, as if being trapped in an abusive relationship is exclusive to adult performers or """""""moral degenerates"""""""

@C. J. cope? What are you even talking about I think you replied to the wrong comment

@Dark cat stop trying to use this as an excuse to cope Manlet. Not every UFC fighter or muscled man is the same. Jealous fool

@Jynxed Koma Blinding & overwhelming? Absolutely. Leaves them out of control? Not a chance in hell. Just because it might bring you to do something you regret doesn't mean you were out of your own control.

@Joseph M then start treating the consequences of their decisions like adults Christy Mack was attracted to criminality and violence she thought she was above consequences and the chickens came home to roost

What's even crazier is how much smaller she was than him. I heard Joe Rogan had her on his podcast and he was recalling how tiny she was she's only like 5 ft tall and maybe like 110 lb. He said for someone his size to beat her up had to have felt like an adult beating up a child because the size difference was so contrasting that to imagine the two of them in a fight was unbelievable to him.

lol just watch her movies, youll se how soft soul she is lol :DDD

lol just watch her movies, youll se how soft soul she is lol :DDD

@Joseph M The "adults can make their own decision" stuff isnt strong logic. There are people who feel that one of their appendages doesn't belong and want it chopped off. Not everything that happens between "consenting adults" is okay. Things can morally degrade a society to the point where it begins to break down the family unit. I think we've all seen the result of that.

@Jamescawl Stop kidding yourself, the only people who think it's part of the community are the pedophiles (stop calling them MAPS) themselves. The entire community hates them and has been screaming they aren't part of them since forever.

@R A lot of people not working in the industry have mental health issues. It's your hang up. They're adults and can make their own decisions.

@R most who work in the porn industry has been sexually exploited at a younger age.

@R most who work in the porn industry has been sexually exploited at a younger age.

@R they keep using the current year to justify degeneracy.<br>Just watch a couple of years in the future they would say the having shrex with kiddies is okay because of current year.

@R they keep using the current year to justify degeneracy.
Just watch a couple of years in the future they would say the having shrex with kiddies is okay because of current year.

Jealousy is an intense emotion. A blinding and overwhelming one of which leaves many without control.

@Himeka Helle i don't get why people literally use the current year we live in to express their "normality" for a situation. Like calm down, 99% of people dont hate on adult film actresses, instead, they pay for their only fans

ΝουΜουΨουλης FanClub

@Himeka Helle Ikr!! I hope she's keeping well and happy.

@Himeka Helle Ikr!! I hope she's keeping well and happy.

She might not be as confident as she should be, since some ppl still consider being an adult film star “self deprecating work” as u can see in some comments....... like it’s 2021 ppl🙄


Why didn't did the other guy go to police right away


"I can't have delicious snacks"<br>Sounds weird for some reason😂

"I can't have delicious snacks"
Sounds weird for some reason😂


People like him don’t deserve legal representation

Legal representation is just to guarantee a fair trial


This woman is so strong it’s unbelievable. The fact that she had to sit through all of this and recount everything he’s done to her while remaining calm and coherent… I don’t think I would be able to do it. Christy, you are an absolute champion. I am so proud of you.


Yasss! It’s back! My favorite JCS video🤙


I laughed everytime dude said slurpee lol


36 years in prison... atleaat he knows how to defend himself from other convicts ;)


Binging what's left of JCS before YouTube fully commits murder on my favorite channel.


im worried about some non yelling based verbal arguments with my girlfriend, this is on an inconceivable level


27:47 is the greatest thing I’ve heard coming from court.


the video was so good i tried to like it 3 times while watching lol


Anyone else search her name on PH for additional information regarding this case?


I love your videos so much and I love all the old music you use as the intros


I'm only about 15 minutes in and I hate this guy so much I can't watch anymore. I hope he's rotting in jail for the rest of his life and I don't even know the main crime the video's about. This man just makes me so angry, I'm heading out to another video.


Did they really question Christy why she stayed with him!? Jesus!


SO creepy how he says impaled people got him excited. WTF?!


AYEEEEEE 💖💖 WE'RE BACK!!! LET'S GOOOOOOOO 🍻 Next to return, is hopefully Christmas with Cliff! 💞


If you’re being choked and almost going unconscious you would not be able to ask a question. Just saying


I like Christy’s Mom. Her testimony was fierce.


Its absolutely ridicolous whats happening to this chanel...


i think he broke the world record of putting the most F words in a sentence.


That bad man have a funny looking ear. He must have been mad at something for that ear. He is a bad man. Not a good man.


I hate people driving while filming.!! Drive when you're driving! Focus on the traffic!


Imagine having your daughter bring home her new boyfriend, "War Machine."


Thank god this woman was able to get away from that P.O.S.


Let this be a wake-up to all ladies who think there's any shame in calling an abuser an abuser. Stand your ground and leave at the first incident and if necessary report it. If an abuser is ok about harming you in anyway ONCE believe it, there will be a next.

@Hermione Stranger <i>Some</i> Teenagers can be so cruel. One thing I learned, though, is that high school never really ends. You gotta learned to toughen up.

@Hermione Stranger _Some_ Teenagers can be so cruel. One thing I learned, though, is that high school never really ends. You gotta learned to toughen up.

@blahblahblah mememe That's right, love yourself first!

Not just ladies, but people in any walk of life, regardless of age or gender, shouldn't afraid to report or at least leave a toxic relationship, even if it's only partially abusive (physical or emotional), even if that person is a member of their own family.
Of course it's easier said than done... unfortunately, police, HR and practically everybody else except maybe your parents if you're lucky will rarely lift a finger to help you. Punishing victims is a practice that's alive and well -- rape victims are regularly booted out of schools, fired from work, divorced, etc. It's easier for the non-victims to pretend that it couldn't happen to them if they keep telling themselves that the victim is "dirty" and "tainted", and give the victim the boot. Victim-bullying is extremely prevalent. Being a victim and making a public report is often just as damaging to one's career and life as being falsely accused (only, people think that false accusations are worse just because a handful of victims in Hollywood manage to have successful careers AFTER testifying, which is extremely rare in every other walk of life).

It is even more difficult when the abuser is somebody you are dependent on, whether in terms of finance or residence or business. In some countries/cultures, perpetrators are dealt with very harshly and people are strict about not bullying the victim(s). In North America and some parts of Europe, however, (and in many other countries) this is unfortunately rarely the case. For the most part, victims are not avenged and, instead, are bullied even more. Just looking through the comments of this video, we find dozens of people who are bullying Christine and implicitly defending War Machine by trying to put the burden on her shoulders for not getting out of the relationship from the get-go. These are the same people who would bully a real-life rape victim and testify against them. I know this from first-hand experience, because in high school I had been stalked and threatened with rape and torture for having rejected a male student's proposal to go on a date with me (I'm ace and at the time not interested in dating). I told my parents, who reported to the principal (who did nothing because I was a foreigner) and to the police, who questioned other students and teachers if they had witnessed the threats. And even though they had done so, they testified AGAINST me to the police, saying that I was a stupid foreigner and a liar. And the police believed them. I had to change schools and I feared for my safety for years afterward. Cut to almost six years later -- I'm at a college festival, and this girl from my former high school walks up to me and apologizes. She was sorry for having lied to the police, and told me that a year after I changed schools, the boy who threatened me went on to rape a teenage girl. He was expelled, and at age 18 he was arrested and had the book thrown at him for multiple rapes. She said that she and her friends had decided to lie because they thought I wasn't "cool" and that the boy had only been "joking" about wanting to beat me half to death and rape me.

Report or no report, it is necessary to leave the situation and go to somebody who can support you, and to do so without confrontation. Be prepared to defend yourself or have somebody who can come to your defense if shit goes down. The important thing is to tell yourself that sociopaths are good at faking charisma and love, and that you're too good to be tolerating or forgiving abuse. "Forgive and forget" isn't the right thing to do, it's idiotic. "Recover and remember" is the way to go.

It can be damn near impossible to leave a situation like this. Anyone that has the courage to leave, I applaud. Police are literally USELESS until it's too late. It's such a relief she had survived.


He looked all skinny…. And pale in the end…. Sick and dying almost….


the lawyer in the last minute or two kept looking at the defendant in case he would knock him out for the guilty verdict lolol


Steroids meets Porn. What could go wrong?


Thank you for putting the music 😭😭😭 I needed SOME light in these videos lol


What a stark difference between Christy's testimony and Amber's.


"Where's your manager?"
manager arrives
"Get the f*ck out of my face!"
😅

"Where's your manager?"
-manager arrives-
"Get the f*ck out of my face!"
😅


She saved those dogs.....she is awesome you ask me


Good grief he shrivelled up when he went off the roids. Stay off the drugs kids.


Jeff. Miss you buddy. Bought you some floaties. Tell me a true crime story.


I refuse to believe the mom was capping. If she was any less reasonable, she woulda ended that man with no remorse lol.  Imagine threatening someone on the stand. While under oath. That's a power move imo lol

@hasslfoot The way she said "oo-kay" sounded like she quickly wanted to pivot from that unexpected answer.

That takes an unimaginable amount of restraint almost inhuman levels of Self control. Mom is a goddamn superhero, shit both of them are goddamn superhumans.

was that mom capping bro? that was so whack bro i cant believe she capped like that bruh

She didn’t threaten. She just expressed a “wish” that she had, retrospectively. That’s by definition NOT a threat and no one can be held accountable for that.

That’s why the lawyer stopped questioning like “lol gonna get my witness arrested 👀”

Right? It could get you held in contempt. That takes some guts


He's trying too hard to look like a young John Travolta.


He should consider legally changing his name to prison inmate pass-around machine.


I think it all stems from the slurpee frustration


Her mom delivered such clever little kill shots at him.  I love her<br>“He looks like he’s lost about 50 or 60 pounds... not as big in the arms or shoulders (with dismissive smirk)” my favorite

Her mom delivered such clever little kill shots at him.  I love her
“He looks like he’s lost about 50 or 60 pounds... not as big in the arms or shoulders (with dismissive smirk)” my favorite

@marcus larwa I 100% agree with you. What she did wasn't cowardly but it also wasn't brave. She knew she was under no danger whatsoever at that point.

@marcus larwa wow! Yes, you are right. I did miss that part. Thanks!

It tells the jury he isn't as intimidating and threatening as he once was, not sure if that was her motivation or if it was just a jab at his vanity like you said

sean vougue her mother is trash for doing nothing period. All these people talking about how strong she yet as I’ve said she sat around and did nothing while her daughter was getting her ass kicked. As parents no matter what your child says your supposed to protect them. If they’re doing something that could possibly get them killed u step in and do whatever needs to be done to protect them.

Lisa B I guess u missed the part where they had to leave cuz the mom heard them fighting and knew he out his hands on her. It was the main reason the mom gave for hating him. Yes what u said does happen but in this case the mom knew. I’m guessing he didn’t say anything because while her daughter was dating him both of their careers got a huge boost. Before they were dating he was a small time fighter and she was just a porn star. Once they started dating both of them had huge social media followings and I’m sure made a lot more money.

@marcus larwa the daughter said she hid it from the mom. It's sad, but often the abuser will threaten the victim and they're just too scared to speak. Plus, the parent doesn't want to think that could be happening to their kid, so even if she did see something, she'd believe the daughter's 'fell down the stairs' lies. It's a really messed up dynamic.

Xavier Israel Matamoros yea the kind that sits around and does nothing while her daughter gets abused every other week. I see a lot of people talking about how strong and brave her mom was but they seem to forget they were staying at her house and she did nothing.

Love her too. She had that look that kills. Love when she said "I should have shot you." My kind of mama!

She def attacked that ego which was awesome to see

A good jab at this self proclaimed alpha male


Can he speak a sentence without the f word?


Soon as Christy was introduced I thought to myself "Oh dear, she's probably dead" as many victims wind up being in these videos. I am very glad to be wrong.

@lo life she had broken up with him 3 months prior..

I thaught what was done her was much worse leaving her mangled good thing the scars healed well not that it does anything for emotional scars

@lo life she was never violent did you even watch it? she doesnt drink OR do drugs. tell me how a tiny woman is gonna fight a roided out MMA fighter anyway?

he was gonna kill her that day, so glad she got away. the poor mum thinking she was dead

Ni Hao Guylan Also, you live under a rock if you've never heard of her before <.<


Most egregiously mistreated channel in the history of the entire platform.


Broken homes have devastating repercussions.


And these are the same type of men that call women emotional... jesus


“He looks like he’s lost 60 pounds and he’s not as broad in his arms or shoulders” she knew he wasn’t gonna like that. Her mom did amazing.

@Inspector Spinda Nah he just couldn’t get steroids or gym time.

Lol oh yea! That definitely hurt his ego 😆 she was definitely the highlight of the whole video

@Inspector Spinda or he can’t take steroids anymore

@Inspector Spinda The trick is that there are no more steroids :)

@Inspector Spinda damn that’s some crazy mind games I wouldn’t never thought of

i think he probably did that on purpose while in jail so he'd look less scary for trial. that is probably why the lawyer had the mom mention he looked different. want to let the jury know his trick


They literally looked a incredible couple ! You can tell how much she truly loved him even in court !


Alright the video was amazing as usual but can we talk about that intro ???? Fascinating !!!!!


51:37 the ultimate mom "I got you now your going to prison" look i love her mom


That Slurpee rant is like a 5 year old kid being pissed at his parents, pathetic for a grown man!

@C H don't worry, you're still a super tough guy! You're wayyy alpha male

that was the point where i was like <b>"how do you have any friends???"</b>

that was the point where i was like *"how do you have any friends???"*

that was almost like a parody how manic he was being

@Shawn Grainger the creature is demonic 🤢🤮🙏🌎

@Landin Brown anyone who uses the term "snowflake" is always prone to childish temper tantrums. They use it to show how "manly" they are, hoping to convince ppl.

I think it maybe an effect of the drugs he was taking or just anger problems

Truly
Truly Pathetic.
He makes me want to throw up 🤮

I like how this is the type of guy who would call respectful or considerate people snowflakes. Yet he throws a tantrum about a slurpee. Ironic considering its a frosty drink.

I feel like this is what happens when someone only reaches the mental age of 16 and then starts taking steroids.

he only looks like a grown man from the outside

It’s so fucking funny. I feel bad for laughing lol

"And the <b>FOOKING BITCH</b> wouldn't let me take my hoodie off!!!"
😂😂

"And the *FOOKING BITCH* wouldn't let me take my hoodie off!!!"
😂😂

He isn't a grown man, and he is 5 years old.

Narcissism is childless retained for adulthood. Toxic.

And most of it was bullshit, you could tell he was lying. Like a kid with deep aggression problems, yes.


seriously excelled yourself with edit and format here, JCS


The big brother clip was of nikki Graham who unfortunately died of anorexia at age 38


I keep confusing this guy with the Power Ranger that killed his roomate with a Samurai Sword.


The fact she saved her pets over thinking her own life is in danger she’s too good of a soul

@Aurora I bet you would've beat his ass when he got the jump on you before you could even sit up from the bed not expecting it. His choices were to walk out with his broken face or get beat up some more until he understands to leave. She should've also left the place at that time when she had the chance.<br>It's always fun to think you would kick anyones ass at any time if they threaten a loved one of yours, but sometimes reality doesn't work that way.

@Aurora I bet you would've beat his ass when he got the jump on you before you could even sit up from the bed not expecting it. His choices were to walk out with his broken face or get beat up some more until he understands to leave. She should've also left the place at that time when she had the chance.
It's always fun to think you would kick anyones ass at any time if they threaten a loved one of yours, but sometimes reality doesn't work that way.

@mareczek00713 If it was me interpreting it in my own way, why did you feel the need to even  bring up the fact that they aren't using their real name or face for their profile in the first place? You could've still made a solid argument without bringing those things up is the point that I'm getting at 😂

@Speccy SquareGoLike And interpreting it YOUR way.

@mareczek00713 It was you that said it. I'm only seeing what you've provided me to see

@Speccy SquareGoLike after which there was more text giving more context, suspiciously making everything totally different than the circumstances of the dude in the video.<br>I'm not implying anything, it's you seeing only what you want to see because of your preconceived notion a man is supposed to die for a woman he slept with a few times that watched him beaten up in a way suggesting a set-up or him being just envy fuel

@Speccy SquareGoLike after which there was more text giving more context, suspiciously making everything totally different than the circumstances of the dude in the video.
I'm not implying anything, it's you seeing only what you want to see because of your preconceived notion a man is supposed to die for a woman he slept with a few times that watched him beaten up in a way suggesting a set-up or him being just envy fuel

@mareczek00713 You heavily implied that you think he's a coward. "'He is a coward' - said a keyboard warrior that's not using his real photo nor name" ~you

@mareczek00713 You shouldn't go off at someone for not having a pic of themselves as their profile picture, cuz you don't, either 😂 <br>How is it cowardly of someone to not have their face on their profile picture?

@mareczek00713 You shouldn't go off at someone for not having a pic of themselves as their profile picture, cuz you don't, either 😂
How is it cowardly of someone to not have their face on their profile picture?

@Esperanza Robertson just this week I saw an ad in a magazine  for something called Purina Purple Leash project. They help abuse victims with pets

@indiciaobscure That's awesome! What's the name of the charity?

a lot of people will stay in abusive relationships because they're worried about their pets being hurt or killed. When you're scared and isolated that relationship can be even more important, and the abuser will use them as leverage. A friend of mine helps with a charity where they provide temporary housing for pets of victims of domestic violence so they can go to shelters and restart their lives and know their animals will be waiting for them.

@유리cam "He is a coward" - said a keyboard warrior that's not using his photo nor real name while sitting in his safe and comfortable home about a man that did not notify the police hearing that the woman already did so and having every reason to believe they're already on their way anyways...<br>Fun fact - judges and prosecutors also obviously thought just as I did since we have no info of that guy being accused of failure to provide assistance etc.

@유리cam "He is a coward" - said a keyboard warrior that's not using his photo nor real name while sitting in his safe and comfortable home about a man that did not notify the police hearing that the woman already did so and having every reason to believe they're already on their way anyways...
Fun fact - judges and prosecutors also obviously thought just as I did since we have no info of that guy being accused of failure to provide assistance etc.

mareczek00713 He is a coward he literally said “I ain’t no snitch, you gotta kill me or let me go”. He absolutely could have called the police when he left he knew what he was doing.

@____ Well, she called the police, screaming quite loud, if I were him I'd think they'd simply come.

@Alf she coulda ran away but stayed and called 911 contrary to the bf who ran away without calling the police even when he was safe.

while leaving her new boyfriend get punched yea :)))


She’s incredibly brave to sit in that chair with social anxiety, facing a predator and giving testimony. I know it wouldn’t help but I wish I could hug her.

@Santa Claus nah he's not, this woman  cud have been killed ffs

@Justin Loyd I don't c anythin cringe about wat u said ,I h8 white knights but this isn't that.  This woman was beaten,  raped and tortured. Its human to want to console her.

@Dessert Eagle I suffer from social anxiety and can show up to work every day, but get me at a sporting event and I’m scatter brained and freaking out. I don’t see what one has to do with the other

@C$PG Weeb point is don’t judge others for showing sympathy. It’s not a weak trait like your making it out to be. Some of the strongest people I have came across are strongly sympathetic to the others people and thier struggles. Each one teach one young man.

@C$PG Weeb dedicated to the act, I respect that.

@C$PG Weeb is your life so sad that you have nothing worth missing? Cringe

@C$PG Weeb I try to live my life on my own and not through someone else’s ideas that’s why I find human moments like the one in this video touching.this chick was able to crawl her broken body to safety and eventually face this pos in court and testify against him. I admire that.

@Justin Loyd empathy, love and care is for babies dude. Totally not alpha male shit

@C$PG Weeb yeah, that empathy shit is whack, huh?


It’s so telling of Christy’s sweet nature that her first instinct was to protect her dogs.

@Missy Maria thank you for taking time you can never get back to work on making humanity so much better by all the insults. Your words will certainly inspire me to be a better person. Again, thank you so very much!

@Hermit_tRs maybe that’s WHY he didn’t call the cops

@Dintget Buttmadd Nah, I assure your attempt wouldn't last very long!

It's always the sweetest people that meet the most fucked up for some reason. My first instincts is always to make sure my dogs are protected and ok

@mooky On one hand I could agree with you, it's kinda weird her first reaction was saving the dogs and not her current boyfriend/friend or to run for help, but on the other hand I still can't believe that guy didn't call the cops the moment he left. Sure Warmachine is an mma fighter, there's no shame in losing to him, but calling the cops would be the bare minimum imo.

@Diplorable broad Good soul? She wouldn't be in this situation in the first place, if that were the truth! Devil in disguise!

yeah the dogs probably smelled the cream on her breath, too

@3Vimages Well-loved Pitties that aren’t bred for aggression and dog fighting will be sweet in their nature. Much like K9 GSP breeds.

My first thought. Poor women. Definitely a good soul.

@mooky she probably assumed he could defend himself or her because he’s a man lol

@TheMightyMcB Well, who was she F* him or the dogs? Maybe both?

@mooky What was she gonna do? Attack the literal roided up MMA fighter as if she was fucking Batman?

I’m pretty desensitized to true crime cases but this one in specific made me cry because of how nurturing and caring she is. Christie didn’t deserve any of the treatment she got. I hope she and her mother are doing better now. Christie just seems like such a sweet person… It makes me so sad in all honesty ):

Right. She was like dude, you're on your own.