Putting an aggressive person in solitary and then releasing them directly to the streets. Smart.

Putting an aggressive person in solitary and then releasing them directly to the streets. Smart.

@zonesix I genuinely don't wish that on maybe anyone

@zonesix I genuinely don't wish that on maybe anyone

I hope he's back in solitary confinement and will be there for years decades he's not fit to be around others and if people in prison find out what he's in there for what he did to that girl they might kill him

I hope he's back in solitary confinement and will be there for years decades he's not fit to be around others and if people in prison find out what he's in there for what he did to that girl they might kill him

@TheDizzleHawke It's hard to know though because defense lawyers know it's a good card to play.

@TheDizzleHawke It's hard to know though because defense lawyers know it's a good card to play.

@Bulletproof222 They would have had to put him in there for trying to fuck other prisoners or guards up for sure.

@Bulletproof222 They would have had to put him in there for trying to fuck other prisoners or guards up for sure.

He must have been in solitary so much because he tried to beat people up in prison. I mean you know he would end up in fights in prison.

He must have been in solitary so much because he tried to beat people up in prison. I mean you know he would end up in fights in prison.

@TheDizzleHawke While that may (or not) be the case, lawyers and defendants will say just about anything to harvest sympathy. I would take that with a small spade of salt.

@TheDizzleHawke While that may (or not) be the case, lawyers and defendants will say just about anything to harvest sympathy. I would take that with a small spade of salt.

@America Fk Yeah On one hand, I do agree, but on the other, this only works if there is a rehabilitation programme in the prison. Granted, I don't know what that prison was like, nor how he was treated in there. But I think he should have been released from solitary and back with other prisoners as a method of gradually releasing him back into society. From solitary straight to freedom is just asking for trouble.

But that's why I love JCS so much. So far, every case had a background story, showing that's not always just the person itself. In many cases there were other elements that lead up to the tragedy, and showed that the offender is not alone to blame. Now don't get me wrong. I don't feel sorry for this guy. Prison didn't fail him. It failed the general public and the victim.

Yeah but people can change, not all the time but thats the point of prison, makes you behave so you dont end back worse. <br>He probably stsrted snorting coke and drinking, cycles of gear, thats what did it.

Yeah but people can change, not all the time but thats the point of prison, makes you behave so you dont end back worse.
He probably stsrted snorting coke and drinking, cycles of gear, thats what did it.

@merncat75 I think its atleast partially men are more able to become abusive partners because they're usually physically stronger than their spouses. I don't think most women are capable of beating their boyfriends half to death like what war machine did to her

@merncat75 I think its atleast partially men are more able to become abusive partners because they're usually physically stronger than their spouses. I don't think most women are capable of beating their boyfriends half to death like what war machine did to her

@Rex Remedy so giving them a holiday is the way to go

@Rex Remedy so giving them a holiday is the way to go

@Dominic Easton treating them like princesses is only encouraging them Guess you didn't think about that did u

@Dominic Easton treating them like princesses is only encouraging them Guess you didn't think about that did u

@toast You should have suffered what she suffered then you can come here and talk about the poor guy

@toast You should have suffered what she suffered then you can come here and talk about the poor guy

@Patrick LaBelle im sure christine mackinday would be thankful that jon koppenhaver was thrown in solitary confinement after he got out and then beat her within an inch of her life, that really improved that situation didn't it?

@Patrick LaBelle im sure christine mackinday would be thankful that jon koppenhaver was thrown in solitary confinement after he got out and then beat her within an inch of her life, that really improved that situation didn't it?

@jonbalderh So if you had a child who had been raped or killed, you would care only about rehabilitating the rapist or murderer?  What an amazing person you are.

@jonbalderh So if you had a child who had been raped or killed, you would care only about rehabilitating the rapist or murderer?  What an amazing person you are.

@Patrick LaBelle it's not feeling sorry for murderers, it's a systematic approach towards minimizing repeat offenders. You fundamemtally misunderstand how rehabilitative prison systems work, and what they are intended for.

@Patrick LaBelle it's not feeling sorry for murderers, it's a systematic approach towards minimizing repeat offenders. You fundamemtally misunderstand how rehabilitative prison systems work, and what they are intended for.

@jonbalderh So we should feel sorry for murderers, rapists, child abusers if they have to spend a few months not talking to anyone? Poor babies!

@jonbalderh So we should feel sorry for murderers, rapists, child abusers if they have to spend a few months not talking to anyone? Poor babies!

@Patrick LaBelle holyshit the man himself is here . You cannot resist don't you . And yes I do think it is a valid argument since you showed that you  love interacting with people on the internet, and keep doing so . You can't do that in solitary confinement

@Patrick LaBelle holyshit the man himself is here . You cannot resist don't you . And yes I do think it is a valid argument since you showed that you  love interacting with people on the internet, and keep doing so . You can't do that in solitary confinement

@Boris lo LOL!  If you think that's an intelligent argument, you are really funny!

@Boris lo LOL!  If you think that's an intelligent argument, you are really funny!

@Patrick LaBelle the fact that you keep replying to comments for months just shows that you crave attention and you wouldn't survive solitary confinement for 4 days lol .

@Patrick LaBelle the fact that you keep replying to comments for months just shows that you crave attention and you wouldn't survive solitary confinement for 4 days lol .

@Tiffany Laserna he needed to be in therapy not confinement

@Tiffany Laserna he needed to be in therapy not confinement

Since it seems like people go to solitary for offenses committed in prison I feel like maybe solitary sentences should be served non-concurrently. As in the timer on the sentence you’re in for stops while you’re in solitary. Obviously that would probably be considered cruel and unusual, or would require a separate hearing, so I probably can’t happen that way.

@GetmeoutofSanFrancisco It costs about $50,000 a year to keep somebody in prison. Sometimes up to $80,000.

@GetmeoutofSanFrancisco It costs about $50,000 a year to keep somebody in prison. Sometimes up to $80,000.

@Damien Holland The goal should be to eliminate human suffering.

@Damien Holland The goal should be to eliminate human suffering.

@Mae Beline It should be eliminated. Yes.

@Mae Beline It should be eliminated. Yes.

@Carol His mother, his other friends who put up with his "Alpha Male" claims

@Carol His mother, his other friends who put up with his "Alpha Male" claims

@Jesse Stewart Yes. We need to rehabilitate the system now.

@Jesse Stewart Yes. We need to rehabilitate the system now.

@MattDerringer  That's just you, Matthew. Could you imagine if you were him, and people that couldn't even reach you were judging you for death?

@MattDerringer  That's just you, Matthew. Could you imagine if you were him, and people that couldn't even reach you were judging you for death?

@Patricia Baker The problem is that the COs don't get in there and stop things and talk them out. And other problems.

@Patricia Baker The problem is that the COs don't get in there and stop things and talk them out. And other problems.

@Sweet Serenity Psychiatric help. Yes. They don't even have carpets.

@Sweet Serenity Psychiatric help. Yes. They don't even have carpets.

@Patrick LaBelle It is. And, yes they should. They should just be kept from hurting other people. The point is to keep them from hurting other people.

@Patrick LaBelle It is. And, yes they should. They should just be kept from hurting other people. The point is to keep them from hurting other people.

You should have put "Putting an aggressive person into solitary and then releasing them directly to the steets. Thats a threat to me as a citizen. And just another way that Police threaten and kill us."

You should have put "Putting an aggressive person into solitary and then releasing them directly to the steets. Thats a threat to me as a citizen. And just another way that Police threaten and kill us."

He probably checked in. You Gotta keep in mind he was doing his time in California and despite his technical school as a fighter that shit goes out the window when it comes to politics in the California system even in the county jails. He likely had a target on his back

He probably checked in. You Gotta keep in mind he was doing his time in California and despite his technical school as a fighter that shit goes out the window when it comes to politics in the California system even in the county jails. He likely had a target on his back

@Rhys Ok, then I will return my PhD in theoretical particle physics. Because my intelligence is clearly nothing compared to yours. :-) By the way, it is spelled "you are" or "you're", not "ur".

@Rhys Ok, then I will return my PhD in theoretical particle physics. Because my intelligence is clearly nothing compared to yours. :-) By the way, it is spelled "you are" or "you're", not "ur".

@Shadow_AquilaX I think you're just putting way too much in to it but we don't all need to agree. Not everyone is capable of willing to change and when they don't/won't take responsibility or even slightly acknowledge that they were the one in the wrong then it doesn't matter what you do, say, teach, etc... They will eventually just tell you what you want to hear and then when they're freed just go right back to doing wrong and each time they will get better and better at those wrongs.
I've seen it way too much.
What of a person who doesn't just commit murder but also kidnapped or tortured or raped the person?
What about child molesters/predators?
This guy continually did what he could to start and get involved in fights, he bragged about it, he made videos all about how he fought and attacked and how he was in the right and these people were wrong to... to what? Glance past him the wrong way? His court, interrogations, paperwork, etc is all available to the public.... And Never once did he acknowledge that he was wrong.
He beat and raped this woman, his ex who had to leave him for her own safely because he was abusive, months after they broke up she was in her own apartment with a new boyfriend. He went uninvited in to her home and beat this man he never met before to the point his life was in serious danger and then he physically chased down this woman, force in to the room she was hiding, drug her out, beat her to the point her life was in danger and then raped her badly beaten body both v@ginally and an@lly. None of that was in ANY way exaggerated, every bit of it and more *Proven*....
       But he can be fixed, he can be rehabilitated according to you.... He needs to be helped.... put him in a nice cozy hotel with great food, since those cells are so hard.... forget regiments and punishments, he's not a bad person he's just wounded in some way that's not his fault.... Speak to him nicely, give him plenty of counseling so he can explore and forgive himself and recover from the horror of those who did him wrong.... Don't punish violent repeat criminals too harshly.... don't put them on farms or in factories against their will where they MIGHT actually be a benefit to society instead of a monster leeching from it....
       Then just release this monster back in to the world to attack men who he is jealous of, looks different or just because he needs to flex. Send him back out to the world so he can beat on more women or maybe a child this time.
       When some one is THAT violent, that aggressive, has no problem attacking a helpless person... TWO helpless people who were doing nothing wrong and while one lays there gasping for air, bleeding profusely, swollen so they can't see, AND while he tells her he's going to kill her he forces his d*ck in to her forcedly and violently rapes her vaginally AND then anally .... Then chases - HUNTS- her down while she flees bleeding and naked through the night...
When a person is like that, and he's placed in solitary confinement then he is NOT getting his punishment.... he's NOT some mistreated criminal that was let-down or mistreated "by the system"
.....THAT IS A DANGEROUS MONSTER THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN PERMANENTLY.

@Patrick LaBelle no but it makes people even more insane like in the case we saw, so you need to think about the long term effects of prison and what it’s for. Is it punishment or rehabilitation? A mix of both? Who knows

@Patrick LaBelle no but it makes people even more insane like in the case we saw, so you need to think about the long term effects of prison and what it’s for. Is it punishment or rehabilitation? A mix of both? Who knows

@no mane Jane in my ignorance, I hadn't the slightest clue until fairly recently that there are actually PRIVATE prisons, as in privately owned, for profit prisons. I was under the impression that prisons were owned by the state, local, or federal govt. I have an issue with this.

@no mane Jane in my ignorance, I hadn't the slightest clue until fairly recently that there are actually PRIVATE prisons, as in privately owned, for profit prisons. I was under the impression that prisons were owned by the state, local, or federal govt. I have an issue with this.

<b>Solitary confinement. Smart.</b> Fixed it for you sweetie!

*Solitary confinement. Smart.* Fixed it for you sweetie!

it's intentional, the justice system in the US is for profit, they have no motive to help the inmates change their ways, and probably would go out of their way to make sure the inmate is reincarcerated in the future.

it's intentional, the justice system in the US is for profit, they have no motive to help the inmates change their ways, and probably would go out of their way to make sure the inmate is reincarcerated in the future.

People rarely change even when they do have the means to do so... He's not a changing type.

People rarely change even when they do have the means to do so... He's not a changing type.

@Malky Campbell yeah beeing "alpha" is their excuse for everything, screw that

@Malky Campbell yeah beeing "alpha" is their excuse for everything, screw that

@TheDizzleHawke yes.... they also sometimes torture small animals

@TheDizzleHawke yes.... they also sometimes torture small animals

@Timothy Stone That happens in some prisons. Not sure if the one he's in does that.

@Timothy Stone That happens in some prisons. Not sure if the one he's in does that.

@Conor Corrigan an overgeneralization but nonetheless hysterical.

@Conor Corrigan an overgeneralization but nonetheless hysterical.

@Cristian Espinal they use solitary confinement for people who are special risk. solitary confinement is another way of saying protective custody. they put them there for their own safety to ensure that other inmates won't attack them based on their status in the outside world.

@Cristian Espinal they use solitary confinement for people who are special risk. solitary confinement is another way of saying protective custody. they put them there for their own safety to ensure that other inmates won't attack them based on their status in the outside world.

why didn't they just put them into solitary confinement with another solitary confinement inmate. that way at least he has someone to talk to. and it isn't considered psychological torture which won't turn him into a psychopath.

why didn't they just put them into solitary confinement with another solitary confinement inmate. that way at least he has someone to talk to. and it isn't considered psychological torture which won't turn him into a psychopath.

@Whitey McFlightey What kills me is that they protect people like this and even worse, in prison. Sure he's a trained killer. But that doesn't mean anything in general population. Nobody can fight an entire pod or cell-block. And they do NOT care for guys that beat women. And he's at Ely State Prison in Nevada. That means there are gangs who run those yards. I wish they'd let them all out of protective custody.

You're right, should have him sit in a circle and sing songs about rainbows instead of stopping him from fighting other inmates.

You're right, should have him sit in a circle and sing songs about rainbows instead of stopping him from fighting other inmates.

It's almost like the criminal justice system is utterly fucked and broken

It's almost like the criminal justice system is utterly fucked and broken

Abuse is terrible. Violence outside of self protection is terrible. Abuse is no excuse tho, IMO. Plus there's a HUGE difference between spouses losing their cool for a bit, and what this guy did to her. This was EXCESSIVE at best. Practically attempted murder.

Abuse is terrible. Violence outside of self protection is terrible. Abuse is no excuse tho, IMO. Plus there's a HUGE difference between spouses losing their cool for a bit, and what this guy did to her. This was EXCESSIVE at best. Practically attempted murder.

Not saying solitary confinement is smart or effective, but lets not put the majority of the blame anywhere but on him. He was a monster, had been a monster before, and after prison/solitary confinement. He has free will, he has no excuse.

Not saying solitary confinement is smart or effective, but lets not put the majority of the blame anywhere but on him. He was a monster, had been a monster before, and after prison/solitary confinement. He has free will, he has no excuse.

He should never have been released. He violently attacked that bouncer and got a slap on the wrist.

He should never have been released. He violently attacked that bouncer and got a slap on the wrist.

Seeing all these comments here make me realize y’all don’t know anything about prison.

Seeing all these comments here make me realize y’all don’t know anything about prison.

I personally blame the system that allows child abuse to be so prevelant in our society and the rehabilitation system is non existent or just pure torture. There are no classes on the importance of mental health in our schools teaching our children how to cope and how to identify abuse and how to speak up. We are all literally on our own and it's a joke!

@no mane Jane People don't care about rehabilitation. We vote for these laws and these lawmakers.

@no mane Jane People don't care about rehabilitation. We vote for these laws and these lawmakers.

@Patrick LaBelle I just noticed you put "drug dealers" besides murderers and rapists. You must be trolling

@Patrick LaBelle I just noticed you put "drug dealers" besides murderers and rapists. You must be trolling

@Cristian Espinal I feel if you torture horrible people with solitary confinement long enough you end up torturing someone else anywayz. Its just adding unnecessary blood in the pool that already is.<br>But we both agree that putting somoene in solitary confinement and then releasing them straight away should be an obvious mistake to anyone

@Cristian Espinal I feel if you torture horrible people with solitary confinement long enough you end up torturing someone else anywayz. Its just adding unnecessary blood in the pool that already is.
But we both agree that putting somoene in solitary confinement and then releasing them straight away should be an obvious mistake to anyone

@Patrick LaBelle 14th century christians, you know, the guys that had "being eaten alive by rats" and "being split in four by horses" as punishments banned solidary confinement because they thought it was two cruel, go figure.
You are probably a very young individual but let me tell you, if wanna make any man, no matter how good of a person, go insane fast and easy, solidary confinement is the way to do it. It is not to be fucked with and it is absolutely insane that American prisons do this.
I dont there but in Sweden, the country with the least crime, there is no solidary confinement. Its not even on the table, because its obviously immensly counterproductive and plain ignorant

When you realize the justice system is a huge business that relies on recidivism it all starts to make a lot more sense.

When you realize the justice system is a huge business that relies on recidivism it all starts to make a lot more sense.

Not to say to i am for solitary but this is hardly an excuse or explanation for what he did to that woman. He was clearly extremely violent before and i have a hard time believing that he would have been peaceful with a cellmate.

Not to say to i am for solitary but this is hardly an excuse or explanation for what he did to that woman. He was clearly extremely violent before and i have a hard time believing that he would have been peaceful with a cellmate.

@Patrick LaBelle war machine had a year to start the first time he went to prison, ended up doing two because more charges were brought to light. They put him in solitary confinement, then let him straight out. That is what the original poster you replied to was talking about, you conflated it to rapists/murderers. He hadn't done anything like that then, just fought bouncers and other dude bros. You missed the point entirely, he should've been doing counseling and not in solitary, for someone with issues it makes them a lot worse, as we see as soon as he got out. Those vlogs of his told anyone who saw them that trouble was brewing. I remember at an MMA site I used to use the consensus was he's going back to prison soon, and for something bad.

My thoughts exactly. They tortured this guy instead of rehabilitating him.

My thoughts exactly. They tortured this guy instead of rehabilitating him.

@merncat75 Unfortunately, this is one side of the coin. Recently, as the stigma of the "strong" male is disappearing, we see a rise in domestic violence cases where the defendant is female. There are three "hurdles" to overcome, and it can be argued that, on average, males had (10 yrs and before) it more difficult to overcome those. The hurdles are: Going to the police, proving their own innocence (aka, acting in self defence // "hitting a girl is bad" has been taught to me as well, but never "hitting a guy is bad") and third, getting a conviction. I'm glad that this is changing.

@Mary Stevens I think you mean shouldn't? Why are you so upset, You can't use common sense or something. Of course he <b>shouldn't</b> commit the crime. But when he does, you can see why. That doesn't make it okay, or good, or justified. Nobody is saying that at all.

@Mary Stevens I think you mean shouldn't? Why are you so upset, You can't use common sense or something. Of course he *shouldn't* commit the crime. But when he does, you can see why. That doesn't make it okay, or good, or justified. Nobody is saying that at all.

@merncat75 Ehhh Id disagree. I’ve known many women (including my mother) who have gone on to become REMARKABLY abusive, physically and mentally. HOWEVER, the statistics for people with BPD show that while a majority of the public diagnosed with it are women, that’s only because a significant portion of men with BPD wind up in prison for violent crimes. There are a multitude of factors which may contribute to that.

@toast right? In the reality TV interviews he was saying his thoughts were eating away at him even being surrounded by people. Imagine how he was in solitary. And then they just... let him go. No wonder he was angrier than ever when he got out. Like... either keep people like that in jail or get them help.

@Shannon Davidson Then I don't think you know much. I've dealt with female narcissism and was the victim of an abuse relationship for about 4 years. And before you go there, no, this isn't a case of some douchey guy being mad at his "crazy" ex. <br>But yeah Shannon, they should be "ended immediately". Good stuff.

@Shannon Davidson Then I don't think you know much. I've dealt with female narcissism and was the victim of an abuse relationship for about 4 years. And before you go there, no, this isn't a case of some douchey guy being mad at his "crazy" ex.
But yeah Shannon, they should be "ended immediately". Good stuff.

@Sarah Chan fantastic sexism. They're discussing how different sexes react to abuse, but no ofc, ofc it's because men have "entitlement issues".

@Sarah Chan fantastic sexism. They're discussing how different sexes react to abuse, but no ofc, ofc it's because men have "entitlement issues".

@Patrick LaBelle Lol, so you are not going to respond? You should absolutely play with some ideas, even if they might seem like a distant future. Because if we ever face some kind of society-ending apocalypse/disaster or if anarchy ever comes around (make no mistake, capitalism is a system doomed to fail, and one system or another will have to replace it in the end, probably not in our life time though) a world without prisons is what you're looking at. What kind of two-dimensional, thoughtless person never even consider ideas and refuses to think about the pros and cons?

I never said I'm against prisons, I said I thought about a world without them and what I would do if such a decision would have to me made in my community. You only think in black and white and anything that challenges your world view simply isn't let in by your smooth brain. I truly hope you're not an adult and still have time to grow out of this. I'm fine with disagreeal, but you have no arguments, no scientific evidence, no new ideas, and I would expect more critical thinking skills from an adult. Respond to my arguments, not just cherry-picked sentences. Actually show that you don't just base your entire opinion on your anger and hatred towards prisoners.

@Snickering Pigeon "I have played with the idea of getting rid of prisons all together, "      That shows that you are a joke.

@Snickering Pigeon "I have played with the idea of getting rid of prisons all together, "      That shows that you are a joke.

@Patrick LaBelle So, will you respond to my arguments and my own questions now after I relied to your weird hypothetical I really can't answer because I haven't experienced anything even close to it?

@Patrick LaBelle So, will you respond to my arguments and my own questions now after I relied to your weird hypothetical I really can't answer because I haven't experienced anything even close to it?

@Patrick LaBelle I don't know and I don't care. Obviously there are prisoners who would be just fine after 15 days in solitary confinement, but the evidence says that isn't the norm. What would my personal experience prove? Anecdotal evidence of something I haven't even expereinces in thr least is useless. I haven't gone week without seding a human face (online for example) or talking atleast via text. And I never would, sounds like a miserable experience with nothing to do. But I don't believe keeping an already mentally unwell person in a locked cabin (would have to be an incredibly tiny cabin) without windows and with nothing to do sounds like a good idea.

@Patrick LaBelle I have played with the idea of getting rid of prisons all together, but I am aware that in our current world and with our current system such a thing would be impossible.
The difference betweeing getting rid of solitary confinement and getting rid of prisons all together is that regular prison is actually a necessary evil (for violent criminals, not for the 40% non-voolent offenders in the US) and an effective way of rehabilitation when done correctly (look at central and northern Europe for pointers). Solitary confinement has been scientifically proven to be ineffective and far more damaging than regular prison. If it were absolutely necessary I would be for it, but it usually isn't. Most prisoners in solitary (80 000 in the US) aren't a big danger to the general prison population, and even those who are deserve human contact even if it's just through the bars of a cell. There's also no danger in supplying them with some kind of stimulation like books or a TV. It's an especially dangerous practice to just leave someone alone with their own thoughts for weeks and months if you plan to release them (like in this case).
Rehabilitation is more important than punishment. In my own country solitary confinement is very rare and we have far lower recidivism rates thn the US. You pretend like there is no alternative to traditionl solitary confinement, when I can think of a handful from the top of my head.

@Patrick LaBelle Activists aren't always the same thing as psychologists, goddamn. But if those activists present un-deniable evidence then I really have no choice but to believe them. This isn't even a controversial topic. You found any prisoner or psychologist who wwill tell you that 2 weeks or more of solitary are just fine for the human mind and body (yes, solitary confinement has effects on the body as well).

Of course I have spent a week by myself, but I would still be grocery stoppping, I would still be texting and calling people, I have an entire house to walk through, I could leave at any time and go on a walk (just having that choice itself matters!), I have a million ways to stimulate my brain alone, the easiest being the internet. Add that that I do not have mental health problems. How can you at all compare just choosing to be alone in a modern world on your own terms for a few days to be at all the same as spending weeks alone in the same king-sized bed prison cell?

If I were to measure everything by my own feelings without doing some research glomal warming wouldn't exist, the Earth would be flat and I'd probably still be some right wing talking piece. Hell, but even if I were just to trust my instinct, solitary confinement would still sound wrong. And you can't compare it to your priviliged life outside of prison.

Why are you ignoring all the evidence? This is scientific concencus. When the science disagrees with a sceptic they go look at the scientific papers and re-evalauate their own position, they don't close their eyes and stomp their feet and try to reason with their own totally unrelated and non-comparable experiences.

@Snickering Pigeon You prefer to believe activists than your own judgment?   You have never spent a week by yourself in your whole life? You should try it to see that this is not torture. <br>Why are you not advocating for not putting anyone in prisons? I am sure someone somewhere has argued that this also causes "psychological damage".

@Snickering Pigeon You prefer to believe activists than your own judgment?   You have never spent a week by yourself in your whole life? You should try it to see that this is not torture.
Why are you not advocating for not putting anyone in prisons? I am sure someone somewhere has argued that this also causes "psychological damage".

@Patrick LaBelle I think I'd rather trust psychologists and people who actually experienced solitary confineent rather than a random person on the internet who knows nothing about solitary confinement. I know this is an old comment, but I feel like responding anyways. There are even some experiments you can view on YouTube that show the harmful consequences of solitary confinement after just DAYS, even with something to do like drawing or reading.

"Just 15 days locked up in solitary can be enough to cause permanent psychological damage – with effects ranging from anxiety to paranoia to inability to form coherent thoughts. The effects are even worse when inmates in solitary are already mentally ill."
Source: https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/29/this-is-what-solitary-confinement-can-do-to-your-brain-in-just-72-hours-6887619/

The UN has also banned the use of solitary confinement for longer than 15 days and experts say any more can cause serious, long-term damage.

Humans are social creatures. Do you seriously believe months/years of being stuck in the same room won't damage someone's mental health? Hell, it's even not even effective:
"In 2002, the Commission on Safety and Abuse in America, chaired by John Joseph Gibbons and Nicholas Katzenbach found that: "The increasing use of high-security segregation is counter-productive, often causing violence inside facilities and contributing to recidivism after release."
Source: Wikipedia  (original source: "Confronting Confinement: A Report of The Commission on Safety and Abuse in America's Prisons")

I can't imagine how he would act if he was asked to wear a face mask in public.

I can't imagine how he would act if he was asked to wear a face mask in public.

@TheDizzleHawke
1. Reporting bias. If them being victims of childhood abuse makes the case more memorable, guess which ones are going to be in popular true crime media?
2. Psychopathology is highly heritable. It takes fucked up parents to breed fucked up children.

@TheDizzleHawke
1. Reporting bias. If them being victims of childhood abuse makes the case more memorable, guess which ones are going to be in popular true crime media?
2. Psychopathology is highly heritable. It takes fucked up parents to breed fucked up children.

@carmenl163 Where did YOU get all your insight about the human brain?  From High Times?

@carmenl163 Where did YOU get all your insight about the human brain?  From High Times?

@Patrick LaBelle And where did you get all that insight about the human brain? Cosmo Girl? You have not a single clue about torture.

@Patrick LaBelle And where did you get all that insight about the human brain? Cosmo Girl? You have not a single clue about torture.

@Zeppelin What do you call "long term"?!? A few months or even a  couple of years will not cause brain damage, lol! If you believe this, I have a magnificent bridge to sell you!<br>I would not "back pedal", lol.

@Zeppelin What do you call "long term"?!? A few months or even a  couple of years will not cause brain damage, lol! If you believe this, I have a magnificent bridge to sell you!
I would not "back pedal", lol.

@Patrick LaBelle Long-term solitary confinement causes serious brain damage, it's torture. I'd love to see how fast you'd back pedal on this comment if they threw you in solitary confinement, you wouldn't even last a month

@Patrick LaBelle Long-term solitary confinement causes serious brain damage, it's torture. I'd love to see how fast you'd back pedal on this comment if they threw you in solitary confinement, you wouldn't even last a month

@merncat75 Maybe because men have 10 times as much testosterone as women they are more prone to physical abuse. Women who are abused are more likely to inflict their abuse emotionally. Unfortunately emotional and psychological abuse go largely unnoticed by society. For example, the vast majority of parents that psychologically abuse their children will never be reprimanded for it, or face punishments of any kind.

Yea, they should have never let him out instead

Yea, they should have never let him out instead

yea  and  not even  trying to give it  counseling  or even  a camomile tea to  try  calm the beast   down   for a few minutes   naa  get it  frusirated  then  unleash it  on  the  public  then  pretend to be  surprised  at the  bad  outcomes like  this  gotta wonder  if its  done  on  purpose hey

yea  and  not even  trying to give it  counseling  or even  a camomile tea to  try  calm the beast   down   for a few minutes   naa  get it  frusirated  then  unleash it  on  the  public  then  pretend to be  surprised  at the  bad  outcomes like  this  gotta wonder  if its  done  on  purpose hey

this is exactly what is said it not a smart thing to do at all

this is exactly what is said it not a smart thing to do at all

@Bulletproof222 Or maybe he was so dangerous that he needed to be placed there for everyone's safety?

@Bulletproof222 Or maybe he was so dangerous that he needed to be placed there for everyone's safety?

@RearAdmiralTootToot that's not how that works

@RearAdmiralTootToot that's not how that works

@Patrick LaBelle Its not compassion, its about how to make sure they don’t reoffend. Not receiving any mental health care will only worsen the person’s behavior.

@Patrick LaBelle Its not compassion, its about how to make sure they don’t reoffend. Not receiving any mental health care will only worsen the person’s behavior.

@Patrick LaBelle You seem smart enough. Would it be too crazy to assume that with the right people and help War Machine could become a productive member of society? Or at least an alright guy? I agree what he did was heinous, however we all need help. Maybe if that help was more available none of this would have happened.

@no mane Jane Do you realize how much it costs the government/taxpayers to keep someone in prison for one day?

There is NO money to be made via the state. The only money which is ever made is by private prisons, of which Jails are not. Regardless prisons, private or not, cost the government/taxpayer billions. Not the other way around.

my thoughts exactly gosh,,that guy lost it in there.you can clearly see the difference before and after he went to prison.

my thoughts exactly gosh,,that guy lost it in there.you can clearly see the difference before and after he went to prison.

@Black Panther It is so much more barbaric than raping, killing, assaulting innocent people.... SHM

@Black Panther It is so much more barbaric than raping, killing, assaulting innocent people.... SHM

Solitary confinement dehumanises what is left of a person. It's barbaric.

Solitary confinement dehumanises what is left of a person. It's barbaric.

@Thumper G.  I agree, people who have not committed violent offences should not be put in solitary confinement.  Bit violent offenders should be placed in solitary confinement.  You think that violent offenders need to be pampered and then you say that I am the one who does not care about victims?   You say that putting rapists, murderers and violent offenders on solitary would "create violent animals"?? So you are saying that they were not violent animals before they were arrested??? Wow. How caring for their victims.

@Thumper G. How can they be violent against fellow inmates and guards if they are in confinement? Explain that. PS: So you know the effect of violence on innocent people but you care more about the comfort of the criminals who perpetrated that violence. Very nice.

@Thumper G. How can they be violent against fellow inmates and guards if they are in confinement? Explain that. PS: So you know the effect of violence on innocent people but you care more about the comfort of the criminals who perpetrated that violence. Very nice.

@Patrick LaBelle Do you realize how many people are in prison right now for NON violent crimes? So no, not everyone who is in prison, or forced into solitary is an animal.

@Patrick LaBelle Do you realize how many people are in prison right now for NON violent crimes? So no, not everyone who is in prison, or forced into solitary is an animal.

@Patrick LaBelle haha where did you come up with that nonsense? Actually I know quite a bit about what it does to victims and their families. However putting the perpetrators in solitary so they’re mind can erode and they can become even more violent not only doesn’t help the victim in absolutely any way shape or form, it also makes things worse. Now you have an even more violent criminal to deal with who is now even more likely to act out using violence against fellow inmates, guards/CO’s, and if they are eligible to be released, the general public...<br>It’s that kind of thinking that ultimately turns small time crooks into violent criminals. Then you wonder why the US prison system doesn’t work.

@Patrick LaBelle haha where did you come up with that nonsense? Actually I know quite a bit about what it does to victims and their families. However putting the perpetrators in solitary so they’re mind can erode and they can become even more violent not only doesn’t help the victim in absolutely any way shape or form, it also makes things worse. Now you have an even more violent criminal to deal with who is now even more likely to act out using violence against fellow inmates, guards/CO’s, and if they are eligible to be released, the general public...
It’s that kind of thinking that ultimately turns small time crooks into violent criminals. Then you wonder why the US prison system doesn’t work.

@Thumper G. Because you think they were not already animals before they were put inn prison??

@Thumper G. Because you think they were not already animals before they were put inn prison??

The systems broken and is a joke jail don’t work they only make you worse

The systems broken and is a joke jail don’t work they only make you worse

Sarah Chan lol no way, women do it way more psychologically.

Sarah Chan lol no way, women do it way more psychologically.

This is America! Get a “vegan” hot dog and a slurpee while you go walk around Disney Land!

This is America! Get a “vegan” hot dog and a slurpee while you go walk around Disney Land!

The fact that he was suppose to only do a year & ended making problems to be in solidarity I'm not surprised how it went down hill after.

The fact that he was suppose to only do a year & ended making problems to be in solidarity I'm not surprised how it went down hill after.

@Malky Campbell Pretty much every single person commits some kind of crime every single day, we have so many laws on the books.  Don't confuse not getting caught or police choosing not to arrest with not committing crimes.

@Malky Campbell Pretty much every single person commits some kind of crime every single day, we have so many laws on the books.  Don't confuse not getting caught or police choosing not to arrest with not committing crimes.

Patrick LaBelle this is a very heartless and compassionless statement. I feel sorry for you. The bottom line is, we need to de escalate these people and situations. If you ignore the rules of psychology you just hand down to Problem to the next victim or at best police or therapist. We must resolve these issues. Just to get a picture what solitary confinement means. I do agree that crimes must be punished, but we have to take care not to exabercate the Problem so the next individual would be harmed down the road.

merncat75 I disagree. It happens to women the same way. The abuse is simply less obvious because women have different ways for abuse for obvious reasons. In the end abuse is abuse. Irrespective of it being a beating or some other way of psychological torture. The effects on the nervous system are the same.

Tracchofyre yes. The man before and after prison is not the same. It’s as if his bad traits were put on steroids, whereas his redemptive character traits were eliminated.

Tracchofyre yes. The man before and after prison is not the same. It’s as if his bad traits were put on steroids, whereas his redemptive character traits were eliminated.

Thought the same. It’s basically unleashing trouble on society without any second thought.

Thought the same. It’s basically unleashing trouble on society without any second thought.

@no mane Jane wouldnt they make more money if they never left prision?

@no mane Jane wouldnt they make more money if they never left prision?

Long term solitary confinement should be illegal.

Long term solitary confinement should be illegal.

The whole thing is fucked up, Warmachine is not a fluke of nature, he is a product of design. Reality TV, prison complex, sports industry, unregulated drugs, the hyper-machismo of it all letting little boys grow into men yet staying just as they are.

The whole thing is fucked up, Warmachine is not a fluke of nature, he is a product of design. Reality TV, prison complex, sports industry, unregulated drugs, the hyper-machismo of it all letting little boys grow into men yet staying just as they are.

Ladies and gentlemen, the American prison system

Ladies and gentlemen, the American prison system

@Malky Campbell Alpha male is just a different term used to describe narcissists.   Honestly.  Men that proclaim themselves to  e alpha males should just be ended immediately. Before they escalate to attempting or succeeding in murdering their significant others.   For reals.

Note: I'm not familiar or experienced with the equivalent behaviours of females.  From what I do know, it doesn't seem that the behaviour of female narcissists is exhibited the same way as it is with males.

Our prison/jail system in the US is horribly flawed...

Our prison/jail system in the US is horribly flawed...

@TheDizzleHawke orrr use it as an excuse? Just throwing it out there, may not apply to all, many people have childhood trauma and turn out to be nice and highly compassionate people 🤔

@TheDizzleHawke orrr use it as an excuse? Just throwing it out there, may not apply to all, many people have childhood trauma and turn out to be nice and highly compassionate people 🤔

Unfortunately this happens all the time, people parole right from the shu

Unfortunately this happens all the time, people parole right from the shu

@Bulletproof222 Maybe he was seeing a psychiatrist during that time or was put in GP and was in too many fights. Or they feared he would be in fights. Who knows.

@Bulletproof222 Maybe he was seeing a psychiatrist during that time or was put in GP and was in too many fights. Or they feared he would be in fights. Who knows.

@Brendy Harnett too late. Good thought tho

@Brendy Harnett too late. Good thought tho

It’s these types of details which are never offered on true crime shows on old legacy TV.

It’s these types of details which are never offered on true crime shows on old legacy TV.

Spoken like a man who has spent time behind a door. They dont give af. 💁♂

Spoken like a man who has spent time behind a door. They dont give af. 💁♂

@calvinthebold99 obviously men use psychological abuse too, but to my knowledge there is no statistics on who does it more. Probably because it's a lot harder to quantify. But there are statistics on physical and verbal abuse, men tend to go for the physical women tend to go for verbal.

@calvinthebold99 obviously men use psychological abuse too, but to my knowledge there is no statistics on who does it more. Probably because it's a lot harder to quantify. But there are statistics on physical and verbal abuse, men tend to go for the physical women tend to go for verbal.

Who would have thought the process for making wine and the process for making hardened violent criminals would be the same?

Who would have thought the process for making wine and the process for making hardened violent criminals would be the same?

Only in America, the incarceration capital of the world.

Only in America, the incarceration capital of the world.

@TheDizzleHawke  I'm curious how many cases are just claimed/diagnosed to be from adolescents because it's soo widely accepted ala "everyone wants to have sex with their own mother"

@TheDizzleHawke  I'm curious how many cases are just claimed/diagnosed to be from adolescents because it's soo widely accepted ala "everyone wants to have sex with their own mother"

dgafinlikecrazy Exactly. Like opening the lions cage.

dgafinlikecrazy Exactly. Like opening the lions cage.

@Bulletproof222 I can attest to that. I've been in the SHU.

@Bulletproof222 I can attest to that. I've been in the SHU.

@Malky Campbell Oh hello intelligent being. Nice to meet you. <br>( No that's not sarcasm at all)

@Malky Campbell Oh hello intelligent being. Nice to meet you.
( No that's not sarcasm at all)

dgafinlikecrazy I think the judge may have placed a bed or two.. hahahahaha

dgafinlikecrazy I think the judge may have placed a bed or two.. hahahahaha

@merncat75 its almost like men and women have completely different brain patterns and aren't exactly the same.

@merncat75 its almost like men and women have completely different brain patterns and aren't exactly the same.

Solitary should just be torture especially horrible people who are <b>never</b> going back into society like death row inmates or multiple life sentencers. There's no way you could expect that to do anything to most people other than mess them up badly, and it certainly won't help them when they come back to society.

Solitary should just be torture especially horrible people who are *never* going back into society like death row inmates or multiple life sentencers. There's no way you could expect that to do anything to most people other than mess them up badly, and it certainly won't help them when they come back to society.

Its not that bad I prefer solitary. I never even go outside anymore. I have people bring me my food and stuff. When someone knocks at the door that I'm expecting I just go into my room so I dont have to see them. Then i call and let them in. Ppl suck solitary is great.

Its not that bad I prefer solitary. I never even go outside anymore. I have people bring me my food and stuff. When someone knocks at the door that I'm expecting I just go into my room so I dont have to see them. Then i call and let them in. Ppl suck solitary is great.

I was thinking the same thing! I wish our jails and prison systems had better psychiatric help available to the inmates. How can we rehabilitate anyone without giving them the tools and knowledge needed to cope with society?   Especially after being held in solitary confinement for so long? That in itself isn't healthy! Even after being released, they should set them up with a therapist so they can continue getting the help they need so much. Maybe things would've been different had they received the help before things get to that point.

@bibi dilux You have more compassion for murderers and rapists than for their victims. This is not sad, it is disgusting.

@bibi dilux You have more compassion for murderers and rapists than for their victims. This is not sad, it is disgusting.

@Patrick LaBelle I don't think they meant that he didn't deserve it, probably was referring to the fact that being in solitary confinement without any therapy whatsoever and then releasing him was a time bomb waiting to explode. He should've never got out of jail, solitary confinement or not!

@Bulletproof222 "Prolonged solitary confinement is literal psychological torture."<br>What bs.  So murderers, rapists, violent offenders, drug dealers should get all our compassion, right? Because the poor babies could not stand to spend a few weeks by themselves. Because being alone is such torture, lol.

@Bulletproof222 "Prolonged solitary confinement is literal psychological torture."
What bs.  So murderers, rapists, violent offenders, drug dealers should get all our compassion, right? Because the poor babies could not stand to spend a few weeks by themselves. Because being alone is such torture, lol.

@no mane Jane yes they want money that is it.

@no mane Jane yes they want money that is it.

@TheDizzleHawke I think you'll find most violent criminals have either a history of abuse or very low IQs or both. Neither is their fault. But the reality is, despite those factors, society must judge your actions and the need to protect the innocent and the community at large. He was dealt a bad hand with being abused and being stupid, but locking him up is what must be done.

Reid Martin pshhhhh men abuse psychologically way more than women do too.  They have entitlement issues on all fronts.  Full stop.

Reid Martin pshhhhh men abuse psychologically way more than women do too.  They have entitlement issues on all fronts.  Full stop.

This is exactly why the prison system should not be privatisied

This is exactly why the prison system should not be privatisied

@TheDizzleHawke
Here's something I don't understand.  Did you ever notice how it's always men who had been abused and then become the  abusers but women get destroyed by it in a different way.. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I know some women are abusive but overall, it seems to be common with men 🤔

@TheDizzleHawke
Here's something I don't understand.  Did you ever notice how it's *always men* who had been abused and then become the  abusers but women get destroyed by it in a different way.. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I know some women are abusive but overall, it seems to be common with men 🤔

the prison industry is an industry that wants to be sure of return customers

the prison industry is an industry that wants to be sure of return customers

They don't care about rehabilitation, they make more money if people keep going back to prison. They don't care about public safety

They don't care about rehabilitation, they make more money if people keep going back to prison. They don't care about public safety

They made him insane. I mean, more than he already was....

They made him insane. I mean, more than he already was....

It would be unsafe not to have him in solitary confinement, but they definitely should not have released him.

It would be unsafe not to have him in solitary confinement, but they definitely should not have released him.

Cure4Living I’ve been on a true crime binge lately, and it seems that over 90% of them involve the perpetrator being a victim of childhood abuse.

Cure4Living I’ve been on a true crime binge lately, and it seems that over 90% of them involve the perpetrator being a victim of childhood abuse.

@Emma Mitchell Prolonged solitary confinement is <b>literal</b> psychological torture.

@Emma Mitchell Prolonged solitary confinement is *literal* psychological torture.


I feel for both of the victims. I can only imagine the trauma they still suffer from that horrific day. God bless them I hope that psycho never gets out

@Van Damage Whether it's a trolling bait comment or not doesn't make that dude any less despicable for saying that shit. Why are you attempting to deflect people calling out a shithead?

@Lief Theorine what is it like not having the cognitive ability to see a troll post?

@thaistomp what is it like knowing you're such an evil person?

@thaistomp why would anyone want him freed?

He punished those two.  Free the Warmachine.


This video really made me appreciate the  role of court room interrogator. I have a huge public speaking phobia and cannot imagine going through this kind of traumatic line of questioning with somebody, let alone in a public setting!


Him saying he acts like this because of his fathers death is just an excuse at this point . He’s not a rebellious teen . Your an adult take responsibility for your actions and choices . I had a very hard childhood. Mom and dad were both addicts . Grandparents adopted me as a child . My mom overdosed many times . Beat me , starved me , made me walk to school and back in a bad city . Not gonna say where . But top 5 of the worst city’s in America . So I absolutely hate when people say they are terrible people because of their childhood . You cannot use that excuse for your behavior ! . I have no sympathy for him. Yes it’s unfortunate his father died . As a young child though. As an adult , many many people have rough childhoods and parents deaths and divorces . Everyone goes through something . Some worse than others. This is all him. It’s how he is . He would be a shitty person with out without the death of his father . I remember years ago a lot of people bashed this woman. All because she was in the adult industry . Saying she deserves it and all types of messed up things . This was years ago when it happened . I’m<br>Glad to see more people have sympathy for her . Now that those things are becoming more normalized and open minded .

Him saying he acts like this because of his fathers death is just an excuse at this point . He’s not a rebellious teen . Your an adult take responsibility for your actions and choices . I had a very hard childhood. Mom and dad were both addicts . Grandparents adopted me as a child . My mom overdosed many times . Beat me , starved me , made me walk to school and back in a bad city . Not gonna say where . But top 5 of the worst city’s in America . So I absolutely hate when people say they are terrible people because of their childhood . You cannot use that excuse for your behavior ! . I have no sympathy for him. Yes it’s unfortunate his father died . As a young child though. As an adult , many many people have rough childhoods and parents deaths and divorces . Everyone goes through something . Some worse than others. This is all him. It’s how he is . He would be a shitty person with out without the death of his father . I remember years ago a lot of people bashed this woman. All because she was in the adult industry . Saying she deserves it and all types of messed up things . This was years ago when it happened . I’m
Glad to see more people have sympathy for her . Now that those things are becoming more normalized and open minded .


jesus christ i’ve been abused and had my jaw broken twice by my abuser but what he’s done to her is on a whole level…she’s so lucky to be alive oh my 😞


Her mother is absolutely incredible. When the court asked her to identify war machine, she was very calculative in directly pointing out his slimmer form. This was not on accident, her death stare says it all, she wanted to take every opportunity to both shame and humiliate this man. What a legend.

@Rock land no, it does say a lot about the person looking though. And while words may not have much of an effect on war machine, I’m sure lead would do the trick.

@Rock land Dude get your diaper unknotted

@Evan Kellison internal knowledge? dude you don't have any knowledge whatsoever to be trolling the comments section.

@Rock land definitely hurt his ego to say the least

@Rock land It wasn't about HIM, it was about her as a mama bear, thinking about him almost killing her daughter

So you guys think that she retired from porn because she got the lawsuit money instead of being raped by a man who almost beat her to death.
She was raped.
By a man.
Who almost beat her to death.
You’re going to ignore the trauma in that?
Pathetic.

I thought the same thing. She essentially called him a small, little man. That had to enrage him and there was nothing he could do about it.

@Evan Kellison dude, ur just apologising that a girl almost got beaten to death. Do you even comprehend how disgusting and troubling is that?

No, the mother was asked by the attorney specifically how he looked different.  The reason is presumably to make the jury aware that a much bigger man had beaten up the victim than the one before their eyes.  It is possible he had lost weight to look less intimidating.

@rcroller1972 I was answering to him. I got the same message, him carefully stepping around a real answer.

@Sarah I'm sorry are you talking to me or the incel? YouTube replies are confusing. I was saying Evan doesn't deny that he thinks there's election fraud.

I see, I got 50% right. So tell me, if I am "Prejudice", what are you with your whole stream of consciousness about an assault victim and her former job? It seems you've read or watched those interviews she did, so you know her work, right? Don't you feel ridiculous shaming someone you've likely gotten off to?

@Sarah That's code for "yes, but I'm too scared to commit to my ridiculous statements."

@Evan Kellison I can tell you think the vote was stolen and Bill Gates wants to suppress you with masks and RFID in your vaccine.

@Evan Kellison you literally had to make a burner account for whatever followers you have to not put on you on blast and you wanna talk about others being sensitive? You can’t even handle using your regular account to say your thoughts. Idk sounds like you’re pretty sensitive about that to me 🥴

@Sarah while insulting others over a burner account 😭 sad and pathetic

@Evan Kellison you made this account two weeks ago and you’re on this video trying to demonize her character? Sounds like a jealous wife of someone were talking about in this video lol or a yes man to this dude. She can honestly do whatever she wants if she likes making adult films who cares? We’re talking about him almost beating her to death and you think she’s in the wrong for sueing him? Cry me a river dude lol

a real mom would have hired a hit man. what she did was useless to someone like him.

@Evan Kellison If she chooses to go that route and made enough for her to retire and find some middle aged simp looking for wife number two to look after her, fair play. It's a viable strategy.

Tbh I think most of us are jealous that we don't have that option. I'd take it like a boss if it meant achieving financial self sufficiency by the time I was 35.

@Evan Kellison i was referring to the other comment

@Evan Kellison i dont understand. Explain it to me.

On accident? Thats not a thing. <br>Its by accident not on accident

On accident? Thats not a thing.
Its by accident not on accident

I love her,  her love is a truly unconditional love.  She was right. He is scrawny af without the steroids.

Lol im a big gym rat and insecure 😂 If someone said that too me I'd be so upset! She's amazing!! Bravo!!!

She also points out his weight loss because imagining him as he was 50 or so pounds heavier assaulting his gf paints a powerful picture

It wasn't the only reason. She wanted the Jury to remember he was an absolute monster, size wise, at the time of the assault.

@XxDemon23xXRight, and I'm disagreeing with his assertion of what an 'alpha mentality' is.  Assertiveness, self awareness, personal responsibility and charisma are elements of an alpha mindset, not being a try hard, tough guy, bully who puts the word alpha on t-shirt.

@Magic Turtle Levinus didnt say he was an alpha male, but that he carried the alpha male mentality. Just because the guy 'thinks' he's alpha, doesn't mean he is.

@Rock land Are you talking about the guy who gets hurt so badly by being told to take down his hood?  This guy was fragile as fuck.

Oh you think words and a look hurt this man?? Learn more

If wasn't for her mom support and unconditional love maybe she could be death now. He knew her mom would make everything to incriminate him <br>Also, she would not be able to have the self love to leave him

If wasn't for her mom support and unconditional love maybe she could be death now. He knew her mom would make everything to incriminate him
Also, she would not be able to have the self love to leave him


This is so sad because she seems like such a nice person. Im sure at the time, people would call her all kinds of things & victim-blame her just because of her job.

Yup they do, you can even find it in this comment section.. it's sad that there's people defending him


Wow. This girl is sooooo damn strong for testifying and keeping her composure as much as possible while reliving these traumatic events. I just got out of an verbally abusive relationship, and after listening to her testimony I’m realizing how abusive it really was and to never go back

That is such a hard thing to do. I’m very proud of you, I’m glad you were able to get out of that. Sometimes getting out of a verbally abusive relationship is even harder than a physical one. They’re extremely tough


I was stuck in a cycle of abuse before I met my husband and it was terrifying. I totally get giving up and just letting things happen for self preservation. Poor woman.


imagine trying to convince others that you’re a true “alpha male” and then go on an entire tirade about slushees 💀


Most MMA fighters end their careers with brain damage, this guy started with it

Most MMA fighters end their careers with brain damage, this guy started with it

@Dominick Schrute Sad to hear that. At least the UFC gave him a job with full benefits after his career had to end.

@oXogon80 mma is still a young sport, but Spencer Fisher has pretty severe cte

@oXogon80 mma is still a young sport, but Spencer Fisher has pretty severe cte

@fraterav The important thing is that Christy Mack overcame this horrible assault. Resilience seems to run in the family. I can only hope those mental wounds will heal too over time and she can enjoy her rich full life and can have trustfull relationships again.

@oXogon80 this is the exact opposite of what science has found.

@oXogon80 this is the exact opposite of what science has found.

It’s weird how bad he got considering he never got KO or TKO

It’s weird how bad he got considering he never got KO or TKO

@ModestReptile Alright let's call it a sport then, I don't mind. Still doesn't change the fact I think it shouldn't exist, or at least not on such a large commercialized scale.

@RedOrchidee137 I’m not entirely sure what you mean. Are you saying the danger inherent in mma somehow disqualifies it from being considered a sport? I suppose if you’re applying some personal definition of the term “sport”, which excludes any activities with detrimental health effects, then yes, maybe it shouldn’t be classified as a sport. However, I don’t see how mma wouldn’t be called a sport under the formal definition of the term. It’s a physical activity, includes application of skill and strategy, is regulated with an established set of rules, along with methods of determining a winner and a loser—that fits the guidelines of a sport pretty snugly.

It’s absolutely risky and has serious long term health implications, but a dangerous sport is still a sport, nonetheless.

Ryan Ko must’ve been the brain trauma couldn’t have been anything else

Ryan Ko must’ve been the brain trauma couldn’t have been anything else

mma seems more like a glorified modern gladiator duel than a sport. what's the sport in bashing someone's head in til they go down and potentially get injured for the rest of their life?

I was thinking that he may have gotten worse because he got hit in the head causing brain damage and then threw some steroids in the mix. Not saying he should get off or that he didn’t know right from wrong. Clearly he enjoyed his role as pysco

Most fighters do? What statistics are you referring to?

Most fighters do? What statistics are you referring to?

@MrSlade Nah watch Stephen Thompson or Robert Whittaker or Brandon Moreno, etc. I u think that then u haven't watched MMA

Nah, is guess an already underlying mental instability mixed with drinking drugs and PED’s.

He kinda looks like he started his whole life with it

He kinda looks like he started his whole life with it

@OKJ Wait until you hear that it’s not just an MMA thing😂😂😂😂😂😂

@OKJ Wait until you hear that it’s not just an MMA thing😂😂😂😂😂😂

@OKJ Chris Benoit first what came to my head when I've seen this video

@OKJ Chris Benoit first what came to my head when I've seen this video

@Wei Cong Hey there... not etirely sure what you are referencing but I going through the comments I just realized that this is the first time I trolled somebody back so hard that he deleted all the comments regards my original comment... My comments are now totally out of context. lol.

@oXogon80 bigger gloves means more padding the you’re right for the wrong reasons in boxing there’s usually more rounds and in mma there isn’t just punching to the head where as in boxing that’s all it is

These men do lots of steroids. Roids make them crazy. Also the punishment they go through changes them.

Gotta love the people arguing over a comment that was meant to be funny, not literal.

Gotta love the people arguing over a comment that was meant to be funny, not literal.

And start their careers with unresolved adolescent insecurities now in adulthood!

And start their careers with unresolved adolescent insecurities now in adulthood!

@BestWayKilla I am sorry. What is reference? The name of the woman is Christy Mack. She has a wikipedia article.

@BestWayKilla I don't understand. Her name is Christy Mack not Sara Lovejoy?

@BestWayKilla I don't understand. Her name is Christy Mack not Sara Lovejoy?

But let's admit, he's a good fighter.... He didn't lose his round to her nor to that guy... Good fighter, right?... Eehh, what world...

It’s not true that most end their careers with brain damage, but I see your point

It’s not true that most end their careers with brain damage, but I see your point

@Psychedelic Pain steroids didn't help. They should do steroid commercials use him as a spokesman.

This is the funniest comment I’ve seen since. 🤣🤣

This is the funniest comment I’ve seen since. 🤣🤣

@OKJ wrestling is chorograpic, but very dangerous.

@OKJ wrestling is chorograpic, but very dangerous.

This just tells me the level of knowledge that people have about mma.

This just tells me the level of knowledge that people have about mma.

Damn this comment deserves a fucking award

Damn this comment deserves a fucking award

Dude, I'm an MMA fan and it's pretty well known CTE and brain damage will occur to you if you are taking strikes and blows to your head. It's just inevitable. If you're a well-seasoned MMA fighter who has taken punches, I would assume you're going to start running into pretty bad issues in your 60s. Even one good knock on the back of your skull can cause you to lose sense of taste, vision, hearing, or any other number of terrible brain injuries. Someone like a Diego Sanchez, who wasn't protective at all, those types of fighters are the ones who will eventually pop off and commit a violent crime because of their injuries. That, or they will end up passing away very prematurely. It's just a risk that comes with the sport. If they want to engage in it, that's their choice, but your brain is very much on the line in MMA. It was probably a good investment for War Machine because he didn't have much of one to begin with.

@mamie monrovia Chris Jericho is funny. "I got a ticket."

@mamie monrovia Chris Jericho is funny. "I got a ticket."

@OKJ If they're willing to get their face pummeled in as a day job, then I don't think you should let it bother you that much.

They know the consequences very well, as do football players or any participant in any contact sport. At least they aren't gutting each other in gladiatorial fights like the ancestors enjoyed so much.

@mamie monrovia I agree. For people with a more sophisticated humour it isn't funny.

@mamie monrovia I agree. For people with a more sophisticated humour it isn't funny.

@mamie monrovia that’s because YouTube’s comment section is pure cancer. Either that or I still haven’t figured it out.

@MrSlade u talkin 2 me?  lol   don't get ur issue/response.  help a girl out,  I've slept since that post and can't find the darn thing>  cheers

@mamie monrovia lol it’s one thing having someone correct grammar. It’s entirely another having someone without the basic knowledge on the topic correcting you. I don’t know what’s worse.

@MrSlade   ur use of words had me pause..unchecked overwhelming n the same sentence.

@MrSlade   ur use of words had me pause..unchecked overwhelming n the same sentence.

They say Mike Tyson became frontal due to boxing. I’d ask if he had frontal lobe to begin with.

@MrSlade steven Thomson is one the coolest and kindest mma fighters around dude most fighters are disciplined and kind only a few bastards are like that

@Gerardo Garcia You don't see it because it's your only chance to do something. If you're not a fighter, it's like watching a kitten getting bashed by a baseball bat.

oXogon80 they’re finding people getting CTE from just SPARRING on its own, wrestling, and Brazilian jiu jitsu. Even soccer players have been found to get it from diving and head butting the ball repeatedly. Surfers can get it from wiping out on a wave and getting thrashed around underwater. You don’t think getting punched/kicked in the head or thrown by a grappler for years is enough to cause permanent brain damage? Get a grip buddy.

OKJ Benoits signature move was to dive into people’s bodies head first. Smh.

OKJ Benoits signature move was to dive into people’s bodies head first. Smh.

@OKJ this notion can be taken into account for a multitude of careers even ones that don't cause CTE. You clearly understand empathy, but at the end of the day some of us are willing go deal with problems like that to make a dollar.

@Ryan Ko Seeing the amount of head trauma these people take in a single match is unnerving.

@Ryan Ko Seeing the amount of head trauma these people take in a single match is unnerving.

@Gerardo Garcia Who had schizophrenia war machine ????

@Gerardo Garcia Who had schizophrenia war machine ????

@oXogon80

Yes sir. Boxing rules are designed to keep that match going as long as possible........ Standing 8 counts..... Countdowns after a boxer goes down. There are some bad refs in MMA but boxing refs are far worse...... You can see when a boxer has lost the "fight" well before the refs stop it.

timecode37 funny comment bro, laughed harddd.

timecode37 funny comment bro, laughed harddd.

Don't let one idiot to ruin image of entire sport.

Don't let one idiot to ruin image of entire sport.

@N Logan I highly exaggerated. Let's say a boxer can take multiple punches in a match, wich would have a MMA Fighter on the canvas.

@N Logan Shows that there is no difference in total impact power between the gloves. Proves the premise. <br>I really don't know how to find the science papers 8 years later. I am sorry I can not provide you with it. (What I found while searching: Looks like the consensus changed and with more years of data, it looks like brain damage is more severe. But it's miles away from boxing still.)

@N Logan Shows that there is no difference in total impact power between the gloves. Proves the premise.
I really don't know how to find the science papers 8 years later. I am sorry I can not provide you with it. (What I found while searching: Looks like the consensus changed and with more years of data, it looks like brain damage is more severe. But it's miles away from boxing still.)

@N Logan No. But there is that myth buster video with Bas Rutten.

@N Logan No. But there is that myth buster video with Bas Rutten.

@Stef SpinSorry for weirding you out. (Whats a MMA SJW? Wouldn't that be someone who argues against the Reebok-UFC deal for example? Or higher fight purses? Pretty weird wording)

@oXogon80 every single MMA fighter ever...u dont have to be a vegetable to have "brain damage"...ur getting kicked and punched in the head for a living. Do u not think thats "damaging"? Have u heard Chuck Lidell speak now compared to 20 years ago? CTE like crazy..plus the OP was a joke and ur acting like an MMA SJW which is weird af.

@Cook Mlk I stated that poorly. What I meant to write was:
The Headtrauma a mma fighter receives during his/her career is far far less then that of a boxer or kickboxer. That is because of the small gloves. A clean landed strike will knock you out, end the fight etc.. In Boxing you have those absurdly big gloves, wich give the head hit by it more time and a bigger area to absorb it. During one boxing match, the average fighter will absorb more Power Punches to the head, then a mma fighter during his/her whole career (in the cage).
So i ask for examples of mma veterans with brain damage, excluding those that received it in another Sport they did before or on the side.

Ok name three - who didn't also box or do kickboxing - just MMA Fighting. Name three MMA Fighters who ended their career with brain damage.

Most if not all start their careers with an unchecked overwhelming ego.

Most if not all start their careers with an unchecked overwhelming ego.

@Ryan Ko never looked at OJ Simpson that way..... you could be very right.

@Ryan Ko never looked at OJ Simpson that way..... you could be very right.

That's why I refuse to watch MMA and cannot even watch boxing anymore. It disgusts me. I used to watch pro wrestling since the age of 13. It's not a legit fight, but that's not the point.... it's just fun to watch. I find it the choreography aesthetic and funny at times.
However, seeing people suffer servere concussions from practicing their sport and develop brain damage leaves me without words...
I highly recommend "the dark side of the ring" with the two Benoit episodes. In case you have not watched it.

CTE makes some people into monsters. Aaron Hernandez, O.J. Simpson,  Chris Benoit, etc.

CTE makes some people into monsters. Aaron Hernandez, O.J. Simpson,  Chris Benoit, etc.


It's so strange that attempted murder is a lesser charge than murder.  The intent was the same, the only reason why they failed was because of their own incompetence.


I watched this video when it came out 2 years ago, but I think about it so often. It’s so incredibly well made and such a hard story to listen to. It’s important to recognize Christine’s resiliency above how she was treated. This is why we need to protect people in abusive relationships. Thank you for the magnificent video, JCS.


I’m so glad she seems to have a very loving relationship with her mother. I’ve watched her in different interviews, she seems like a quite a lovely person.


Man such a sad downfall. I still remember watching him for the first time on tuf 6 back in the day and finding him likeable, as well as going crazy when he pulled that last minute comeback on J-rock at the tuf finale. I wished him the best and hoped he could improve as a fighter and rise through the UFC ranks but then he got released and I never heard from him again. Then years later to hear about this.. truly heartbreaking. Goes to show that anger, when not addressed properly, is a disease.

He savagely beat and sexually assaulted Christy, but yeah…poor HIM. 😒<br>And no, anger problems are not a disease, it’s weakness and lack of self control, which is why he was released.

He savagely beat and sexually assaulted Christy, but yeah…poor HIM. 😒
And no, anger problems are not a disease, it’s weakness and lack of self control, which is why he was released.

Anger might be a disease, but you're robbing him of agency by leaving it at that. Jon was a thinking human being and he decided to do horrendous things with his anger, jealousy, and whatever other feelings he had. He was a terrible person, not just a good person with a disease.


“He looks like he’s lost 50-60 lbs” is the most brutal thing the mom could have said to someone like that and I love it

@Cynical Sayonara Nah he lost weight because he was off steroids.

@Cynical Sayonara Nah he lost weight because he was off steroids.

@Cynical Sayonara I think his weight loss and pale skin was more in part to him not being able to take steroids or get spray tanned in jail.

It's usually how people choose to offend me too, as I lose weight very rapidly whenever I'm in situations where I don't have enough access to food.

That's what happens when you don't have access to anabolic steroids anymore.

@Lua whatever it took to either stop him or get her daughter away from him. That’s what more she could have done. As parents are only job is to protect are children at all costs. If he daughter wouldn’t call the cops then she should have, should have lied and said she saw him hit her with her own eyes. That wasn’t the first time he beat her ass, he did it multi times.

@marcus larwa Where's the evidence her mom cared more about money than her child? In this video it seems like she cares a LOT about her child and would do anything to protect her. They even said John avoided the mom as he knew the mom would call the cops. Other articles I've read said the mom DID call the cops. So I'm not sure what more her mom could have done.

It's extremely difficult being the mother to an adult child who is in an abusive relationship. My brother is in a very emotionally abusive relationship and it's very hard on my mom. Since they're adults there's only so much she can do, and often when you do do something, it compromises your relationship with the abused person. As they are very psychologically manipulated.

I mean, he just reverted to his natural form- sans steroids & weight training.

@Kingof Grim like even if I was lying about the mother how to he fuk is that delaying humanity.

@marcus larwa you’re literally spewing a bunch of bs to try and make the mother look bad… she knew nothing about the abuse going on until she started noticing signs towards the end… her daughter was too manipulated, traumatized and more to even speak to her mother about it, and Youre trying to make this about MONEY? You’re disgraceful and I’m glad more people didn’t take the bait

@Kingof Grim i have no grasp, want to spread pain, misinformation and delay humanity because I believe the mother should have done more? They were living under her roof while this whole shot was going on and because her daughter had a huge career boost did nothing while a piece of shot slap around her daughter.  I point this out and I somehow want to delay humanity. Wtf are u talking about, I’m not going to sit here and say nothing when I see people talking about how strong the mom was when she was actually weak and more concerned about money the her child’s welfare.

@Emily Of course it did and you could tell by just looking at him, that he was juiced.

he also said he took steroids, so maybe that plays into it, too?

he also said he took steroids, so maybe that plays into it, too?

@Kryzs Kornhell no offense to her but not smart enough to have left this toxic-abusieve person earlier, some girls like guys that are always aggressive and if you like that this can happen more often than if you date a normal person.

@PXC You dont "send" food, you get money on your books and buy what they have through commissary. A lot of carbs and cheap protein, the jail makes money and people who can afford it get to eat more than the bare minimum.

@Cynical Sayonara nahh no steroids in jail I guess

@Cynical Sayonara nahh no steroids in jail I guess

He looks like a small man compared to that bulk up image with the steroids.

probably because he can't get roids in jail or lift any weights

probably because he can't get roids in jail or lift any weights

@Balderino Kripperino nope thats not how it works

@Balderino Kripperino nope thats not how it works

@Travis Riordan and what can she do? Lie to the police and tell them her daughters partner is abusing her and risk losing the trust of her daughter and drift apart? She can only support her daughter and let her be an adult. Your brain is no doubt thinking "wow how did this guy get away with doing this so much" but you've got to understand the relationship is longer than just the abuse. She loved him and they no doubt had great periods and content periods. It's very easy to tunnel vision when watching these videos and your mind starts thinking of the people's life like some sort of horror movie. It's just life, ups and downs and hindsight is an obnoxious tool in fools hands.

@Bronze you're wrong. She belittled him and made him feel small through her mannerisms and then through her words. She knew exactly what she was doing

@Cynical Sayonara Your comment is 100 accurate,spoken like a true Lawyer

@Cynical Sayonara Your comment is 100 accurate,spoken like a true Lawyer

@Ashley Dianne her mom had to notice something was going on.. she could have been in denial or willfully ignorant, but when someone that close to you is being abused, you can tell..

@Cynical Sayonara No, he doesn't get roids, enough protien and calories, no weightlifting in county jail, etc. Golden state killer was fat his whole life, spent time in jail now he's skinny

still cant stop laughing about it like in Jon's perspective as someone who body work out for years, and telling that to him must be pain in the arse 😭😭 he deserved it

@Cynical Sayonara I think he lost weight because you can't exercise as well in prison, can't take steroids as easily, and can't eat as much.

Hippy Hair they were living with the mom and had to move out cuz the mom didn’t like he cuz he was hitting her. She knew

@marcus larwa you have hindsight when watching this if the girl was hiding it from her mom she probably did a good job but she still knew something was up and didn’t like him. There’s only so much you can do for your grown adult child.

marcus larwa um the mom knew nothing. she didn’t find out until after that all of this was happening to her daughter. if u were paying attention you would see the daughter said this.

The ending is wesome I've played it like 10 20 times makes you go back and think about the potential he had plua the opportunity with that girl to even become more celeb and he fkn blew it...that song is awesome and ironic to him<br>.where is my mind...

The ending is wesome I've played it like 10 20 times makes you go back and think about the potential he had plua the opportunity with that girl to even become more celeb and he fkn blew it...that song is awesome and ironic to him
.where is my mind...

Eggchin X sounds like something someone with small shoulders would say

Eggchin X sounds like something someone with small shoulders would say

Her mum was awesome you could tell he was terrified of her from the start of the relationship. I would also like to point out he literally reverted to sucking his thumbs in the court room when she was on the platform.

gunmetal 07 yea really everyone talking about the strong mom, u mean the same mom that sat around and did nothing while her daughter got beat up a couple times a month. Both of them got a huge boost when they hooked up so the mother sat around letting her daughter get abused because she was making more money.

...and she should have added "looks weak to me"

...and she should have added "looks weak to me"

@Hippy Hair wow, we're all thinking it was an insult. If i were in the jury and i only saw him as he was in court he wouldn't be as threatening. Picturing an already strong man 50 pounds heavier, you get a terrifying picture. I think you really might be an expert...

Looks like that dialogue was set up by the prosecution & the mother was put in play!<br>Hitting him where it hurts!

Looks like that dialogue was set up by the prosecution & the mother was put in play!
Hitting him where it hurts!

So the jury can picture him 50 lbs heavier than in the courtroom. That was a setup smart question by the prosecutor. I’ve watched all JCS videos so ya I’m an expert.

"His shoulders aren't as broad" fuckin insulting my guy's gains like that

@Cynical Sayonara this is actually an excellent point.

@Cynical Sayonara this is actually an excellent point.

He probably lost weight to appear less threatening.

He probably lost weight to appear less threatening.

@Sean Baggen the imperial Dragon no she did nothing to him the fact that he will go to prison that hurt him

That’s why she said it because his ego is everything to him and she shattered it .


Christy is what Amber Heard claimed to be, I disgusts me to see victims like Christy and other women being abused like this and people like AH trying to impersonate a true victim like this, it's just so disrespectful


Christy shows some incredible strength through all of this. The abuse she suffered is pretty gut wrenching and its remarkable to see her stand up for herself in spite of it all. Hope she's been able to pick up the pieces


The mother reminds me a ton of my mom, a very gentle and loving woman who would never hurt a fly but would do absolutely anything to protect her child. I’ve never seen my mom as angry and intensely defensive as I had the time my ex was at my house trying to kill himself over my leaving him and threatening to kill me.


Can we all take a moment for the glorious Nikki Graeme, featured at the start, who was a Big Brother UK contestant. She had one of the lowest stress levels of anyone in the house, because as you saw, she just let all her feelings out. Sadly, she battled anorexia, and lockdown in the UK badly affected her mental health, and she died last year. Nikki was ace.

My friend who was closely acquainted with her and her social circle went to her last birthday and said it was the only time the cake jumped out of the girl. So Sad.

@Winahh Taylahh  In short, it's terrible.

@Winahh Taylahh we have free health care and it's fab, but it doesn't always get it right for mental health treatment.

I thought the U.K has universal good quality physical and mental health services? How did this happen? Poor girl.


I feel so bad for the woman. The way she phrased some things like “just a slap” and “just choking” as if it wasn’t that bad. All violence is violence and should be taken seriously

@christar 95 her job has nothing to do with her personal life ? What are you jealous or something?

She gets paid for that. She’s loving all the attention being lavished on her too. Some of what she’s doing and saying is an act. The spotlight should be shined on real abuse victims who don’t try to arouse men for a living.

I was actually surprised she  puts slap and choke at the degree level of harm. <br>Choke for me means attempt murder

I was actually surprised she  puts slap and choke at the degree level of harm.
Choke for me means attempt murder

@Brandy Huff That is how it works. Victim blamers are like "Why didn't you..." The more you fight back the more they hurt you! <br>Are you safe now?

@Brandy Huff That is how it works. Victim blamers are like "Why didn't you..." The more you fight back the more they hurt you!
Are you safe now?

It's a common way to describe abuse when the victim has been thru so much worse. When my ex tried to  take me to drown me in my pool but I managed to hit his head just right as he carried me to make him drop me I said "he just broke my foot" far less severe than potentially being drowned.

@Iris Hopp 😓 I reasoned that if he was just taking it.. I wasn't being beaten black and blue for a few minutes at least

When she meant "just" it was an admission of how deep the abuse went. She was insinuating that these were just the emergent, surface behaviours of the deeper abuse which was to come.

TeaCup Kitten Yea and there’s a big difference between choking in a consensual situation and just choking your girlfriend when you get mad at her. Wtf is your point

It’s definitely messed up, but relatively compared to all she was put through it would be considered “lesser”

@Don Riller probably will be on prowl for younger, Milquetoast

He should have become Officer Warmachine before doing this. Wouldn't get sentenced

I'm sure she gets choked and slapped in alot of her scenes

@Reaver Of the Legacy sex is violence by nature?? What kind of sex are you having? What a disturbing thing to say 😬, is pron you're only experience and exposure to sex? Two of the people I've been with, it can be very loving, tender and there's so much love and care between us. There are times it's more rough, but not all sex is violent and what you see on pron. I sincerely ask you reconsider what you think sex is, that's a horribly dangerous statement to make as well as a mentality to have

This has nothing to do with porn, women DO enjoy slaps and choking in sex with CONSENT. Sex is violent by nature, thing is there has to be a line. We are thinking animal's, but animal's none the less, for some is hard to stay civil outside the bed or the ring, and for some is hard to not get addicted to abuse.

Iris Hopp I’m thankful you and your baby safely got out (I assume, it seemed like your comment was in past tense). I pray you continue to stay safe, and your baby is lucky to have such a strong mom that has gone through so much and protected him/her through it all. Hope you continue to heal and have the necessary resources available, in whatever stage you’re in. 💗

@E Coli  What do you mean and? I made a simple statement that was factual. What are you questioning about it? Why are you offended? Let me know. What's your problem?  Are repeated with more detail just in case you forgot why you came at me. And then after all of that nearly being beaten to death and endagering the lives of everyone around her she still went to visit him in jail. And what?

@dasun13 and? she still loved him and thought he would change.

@Iris Hopp I'm glad that's over, and I'm sorry you went through that.

She had 18 broken facial bones & teeth knocked out of her head. There’s no arguing. It was a brutal beating, no matter what her job was at the time.

@Don Riller yes, there is some explanation for why such a thing happens - it usually has to do with low self esteem and poor role models, normalization of abuse from childhood and poor options in one's social circles. The notion of "choice" in such a case is then put to question - self-hatred, depression and PTSD are as much executive function disorders (temporary or curable or not) as any of the sort that typically exonerate people from their choices, at least partially. What that all means is, not everyone who seems to "choose" something are actually choosing what they really want - many are suffering something that makes them incapable of thinking through these things - mostly without realizing that something is wrong (definition of normalization).

If you're talking about the notion that women prefer performatively "bad guys", that has more to do with the idea that a "bad guy" has confidence/exhibits aloofness in general. Also, if you think this is that common of a phenomenon, get out more: in the cities and social circles I've hung around in NYC and Seattle, this doesn't seem to be the case at all, unless we're talking about really young women. Few self confident and career driven women in their late twenties in my circles prefer any particular stereotype of person, other than principled, ambitious and sociable. If that's not what you're saying, apologies for assuming

@TeaCupLady but porn is acting. It's not real. If she doesn't consent to those acts then it's abuse.

@TheCutBeautii If you get literally slapped and choked infront of the camera enough, you might start to think it's normal. Many women and girls get abused in the sex industry everyday.
I was entertaining the thought that she could have subconsciously normalized some abuse working in the porn industry for too long, even before she met "war machine".

I'm done explaining myself.

@K I completely agree, that's why I'm against the porn industry and the consumption of porn.

@TeaCupLady But this is real life...*gives strange sideye*

@W R Just as certain people who regularly consume porn starts to "normalize" abuse, some who works in porn probably do it to. Porn has been increasingly violent and easily accessible over the years.

Bman Chu I’m just saying that in a relationship, if your partner hurts you intentionally then it’s still abuse regardless of what it is. Obviously hitting and choking show intent to harm. I’m not saying violence is always bad but in a relationship like this, it doesn’t have a place at all.

That's how it goes though when you are exposed to much worse. But I think it made a huge impact on the court room, especially since choking is taken very seriously.

Towards the end of my abusive relationship, I thought raping didn't even count as abuse because it wasn't as bad (to me) as constantly fearing for the life of our newborn.


The way she just states “it would JUST be a slap in the face and Thats about it” like it was nothing compared to everything else she went through …really breaks my heart


The slurpee thing really scares the shit out if me cause my ex used to act like that all the time.  It even scarier in person because, at least in my exes case, he'd direct the rage to whoever was around him


Man I feel for her as a survivor myself, this was super hard to watch. But it was so informative.  This video was wonderfully put together! There are so many similarities , thankfully we got out alive.  I truly hope she lives a beautiful life now that she's free.


Really hope Christine is doing better. Takes a lot of bravery to get up there and said what she said.

@Bubba master Where do you live? What is the name of the country?

@LostStarzOfTheSky Wrong they were still together. Provide proof that they broke up or keep it moving.

@Bubba master she had broken up with him 3 months ago? Are you okay?

@thaistomp ye man they literally defending a cheater lol. He found her in bed with another dude so I can understand his reaction to it. But these betas in the comment gonna defend the woman lmfao.

@Bubba master These people are goofy.  If you don't agree with them, you're a "troll."

@Missy Maria In my country she would be the one going to prison or worse. Grow up kid just cause someone got a different opinion then you dont make it a troll.

@Bubba master Obvious troll is being obvious.