As a whole: No<br>Triple A games?: Definitely

As a whole: No
Triple A games?: Definitely

@KeyToAeris that’s one of the AAA games I like (you did see my next comments right, I don’t think all triple A games are bad I think that standards are too low)

@Makoto Yuki Um Persona 5 does exist as well and that’s AAA and it was incredible

IceBlueLugia as a P3 fan I completely agree, the only category they keep up with p5 is the writing and themes

Dev If you were really a huge Persona fan you’d know that P5 is better than P3 and P4 in almost every way. Stop watching Cvit, his video is not good lmao

Bishop Spechulure yeah and also do you watch Kamen too or not, just curious

shit i forgot about doom eternal that game is fucking nuts

@Dev Everyones entitled to their opinion, but everyone I've seen with that opinion has been a fan of Cvits demonstrably ill-constructed review

P5 has poorest writing in an rpg I've seen this decade and I'm a huge Persona fan. Such a disappointment.

I Eat Cheese Pie I understand your point and I myself like some triple A just like you,<br>To be more accurate I meant the standard for triple A games but that’s my fault for not clarifying

I Eat Cheese Pie I understand your point and I myself like some triple A just like you,
To be more accurate I meant the standard for triple A games but that’s my fault for not clarifying

@Joak You didn't list Doom Eternal or Doom2016 prepare for appropriate punishment.

I disagree.A lot of AAA games have been some of my favourite games of all time,like rdr2,god of war or the witcher 3.The thing is,there are AAAs from companies who put years of effort into their games and games from companies like ubisoft who makes lots of shitty 10 hour games a year and mark them all as AAA.


"People have never been this polarized on vidya gaems"

Back in the 90s I saw a kid get dragged to the back of the bus for saying 'blast processing' where a kid three grades above him kicked him in the testicles until he puked.

@h_grunt You are basically saying "I'm a douchebag" without saying it.

@Johnny Munz Honestly these things probably weren't related but it has stuck with me like witnessing a crying child standing next to a car wreck...

i guess they didnt like sonic that much 0_O


Emp you made a mistake. In the hamburger chart, the buns should have been burned for base game.

Also missed a great opportunity with the Simpsons “It’s been done” being instead the South Park episode “Simpsons did it”


This is why I only really play indie games because they actually have passion and are made for pure player fun and not for money (well at Least most are)

They all look The same. Once you have one you have them all. The same budget they have were prob around The same budget fromt he 2000s. But no, stick to The same fucking srtstyle evry indie ever has had.

Indie games are also boring cliche and all the same as well. Do I want the aaa game that’s all the same or do I want the 8 bit emotion porn indie game that’s the same as the last 30 indie games. That’s the choice only one costs less most the time.

if the game is not profitable, why bother?

"After nine years in developpement, hopefully, it has been worth the wait."

I just want AAA to be good again outside of like at most 2 or 3 good ones a year


I keep thinking there's something wrong with my computer every time I see a green simpsons character.


Both "Lazy free to play game riddled with microtransactions" and "Haphazardly shoved in bells and whistles that result in an incoherent mess" can describe Fortnite, one of the most popular games of the late 2010s and a game I've had a personal gripe with since I found out about it.

@Logan Krohn Don't lie. Does it not ask you to buy things from the in game store?

@Kibchi Redanlae
I’m not actually, Fortnite doesn’t market as aggressively as today’s sponsor.
RAID: Shadow Legends

@Kibchi Redanlae <br>They don’t have money to spend though, my siblings and I play fortnite squads because it’s fun. My sister hasn’t spent a cent and fully enjoys the game when we play. In fact, the only time I play is with people I know.

@Kibchi Redanlae
They don’t have money to spend though, my siblings and I play fortnite squads because it’s fun. My sister hasn’t spent a cent and fully enjoys the game when we play. In fact, the only time I play is with people I know.

@Logan Krohn It's designed to addict you and get you to spend thousands of dollars on it. Worse still, it targets children: who aren't neurally developed enough to restrain themselves regarding that.

Fortnite is not bad.<br>Fortnite community is bad.

Fortnite is not bad.
Fortnite community is bad.


"I don't care about the graphics, I just care about the gameplay..."

@Joe I don't play Halo, not anymore. However, I don't see why Halo shouldn't have good graphics. It's not like its a choice between gameplay and graphics, good AAA games can do both, and it's not like we know Halo is going to have amazing gameplay.

btw I prefer gameplay

@monkey yoda Okay but honestly if you care more about the graphics than the gameplay then you shouldn't be playing halo, a story and gameplay based game

I mean that's why Madden 08 is considered a vastly superior game then madden 21..

@joseaca You should never just be content with what they give us. Xbox isn't a person, so you shouldn't care about its feelings. If other companies can make, good looking games, that still play well, then it makes sense to wonder why Halo can't.

@joseaca They can. Shenmue is basically that, bad game but good graphics, for its time. People today obviously wont play it, but that doesn't have to matter, not every game needs to be a gameplay masterpiece, 15 years in the future.

@Kernium Dude, you need to show him Minecraft with shaders. I personally think some Minecraft shader packs look much better than most AAA games.

@joseaca I think you need to tone it down a bit. Criticism doesn't equal public mockery. If the graphics still are a problem  on release it makes sense for people to point it out.

Graphics matter before you get into the gameplay. If the gameplay isn't deep enough then graphics matter a whole lot more.

@joseaca no but it deserves criticism.  They've, been boasting their console as the most powerful thing, ever made. Yet, the graphics don't have any notable improvements. You'd think this would be the game to show that, but maybe not.

@joseaca yeah but the new xbox has been boasted as amazing and the graphics suck so it makes sense

@Shaman Xeed I hope that this is a copypasta or a shitpost for you.

@Glizzy Gobbler Everybody has a different thing they like in video games, for me it's mostly music and gameplay.

I like graphics more than gameplay lol cause i like making 3d models.

I'm kinda that type of guy, my dad is the other type, he can't stand Minecraft without his eyes burning haha.


What are y'all's favorite Indie games? Some of mine are Epic Battle Fantasy, Kingdom Rush, Creeper World and CrossCode

Elona was pretty good for a game made by a single crazy japanese guy.

Distorted travesty is probably the best zeitgeist of the early 2010s.

Lobotomy corporation is fantastic and Library of ruina is looking good.

One of the best mario world clones out there is a damn touhou fangame.

Tis-100 is a game that exists i guess.

This War of Mine,great melancholic depressive anti war game.

This War of Mine,great melancholic depressive anti war game.

@MisterDarkButSometimesALittleGray "it's high quality and has a lot of content" seem like a garbo argument and reason to gatekeep indies games

For everyone in the comment section saying Terraria, no Terraria is not a fucking indie game. It may have started small, but that did not last and the game has far too much content and replay value to be indie. It's more like a AA game now. Binding of Isaac isn't indie either. A true indie game would be something like the original release of Cave Story. Something a single developer worked on in his spare time. It was freeware too.

Edit: Indie has become a bastardized word. Long gone are the days when some person used all of their time on a passion project that many people would rarely see. Most true indies get cancelled. Stuff like Dead Cells and Hollow Knight aren't really indie when they're marketed like a big league game by their parent companies. You guys wanna see indie. Look up MachineClad. No spaces on YouTube. It's being worked on by one guy and barely anyone knows about it. I kind of understand why though. He can work at his own expectations and not other people's expectations. Another reason stuff like Binding of Isaac isn't indie. People have some high expectations for that game. It's not really an independent work when an angry, repulsive community is constantly looking over your shoulder.

here's my top 4 in order of how much I like them: Undertale and deltarune (I count those as one game), Minecraft, DUSK, and the Stanley Parable.

@Anisomniac  Portal 2 is my favorite game as well, but it’s definitely not an indie game.

@Anisomniac  Portal 2 is my favorite game as well, but it’s definitely not an indie game.

All of the above and below.

Jokes aside, FTL Faster Than Light and Xenonauts. Both get the brain juice flowing and FTL get's the adrenaline pumping as I gamble the run for an extra bit of scrap. Honorary mentions goes to Unciv, a open-source port of Civ V. It's still missing a lot from Civ V, but it is playable, and it's free. Here's a link https://github.com/yairm210/UnCiv

Hotline Miami and Hotline Miami 2 are my favorite games of all time

Hotline Miami and Hotline Miami 2 are my favorite games of all time

DUSK, a 90s twin stick inspired fps similar to quake and doom and Synthetik, a very fast paced top down rouge lite

DUSK, a 90s twin stick inspired fps similar to quake and doom and Synthetik, a very fast paced top down rouge lite

@Pr. Dr. Nachtigaller Minecraft hasn't been indie for almost 7 years... That doesn't count lol

@Pr. Dr. Nachtigaller Minecraft hasn't been indie for almost 7 years... That doesn't count lol

Openspades, Superhot, Broforce, Worldbox, and about 6 Pokemon romhacks/fangames.

Openspades, Superhot, Broforce, Worldbox, and about 6 Pokemon romhacks/fangames.

Sage Hanson glad to see your having just as much fun as I am, I’m currently trying out a bunch of mods that center the game in a medieval setting. I got my own castle up and everything going, now I need to expand the military, build up the royal treasury, and wait for my timely demise as the raids continue to grow in size.

If you got any suggestions for other games I’ll be happy to hear it, since it seems you might have the same tastes as me.

9 hours later and this comment section completely proves the fact that games haven’t declined at all, just merely a shift away from beloved franchises.

Whether your favorite game is a Rogue-like, a grande strategy, an open-world sandbox, or even a top-down shooter, chances are its an indie game made by real developers making true art.

Underrail the RPG game that's highly inspired by Fallout 1 and 2.

Underrail the RPG game that's highly inspired by Fallout 1 and 2.

Celeste, Untitled Goose Game, Baba is You, Spelunky, Getting Over It, etc.

Celeste, Untitled Goose Game, Baba is You, Spelunky, Getting Over It, etc.

kingdom rush was the first tower defense i ever played since the start specially on armor games

kingdom rush was the first tower defense i ever played since the start specially on armor games

I really enjoy the games made by obscure indie developers OrangePixel and AdventureIslands. You should give 'em a look!

Hollow knight, Bug fables, Skullgirls and Enter the gungeon are my favourites.

Hollow knight, Bug fables, Skullgirls and Enter the gungeon are my favourites.

Epic Battle Fantasy, eh?
Good taste, I see.

I also really like Crypt of the Necrodancer and pretty much all of the Shantae games.

Hollow Knight, Mindustry, Factorio, Terraria.

Hollow Knight, Mindustry, Factorio, Terraria.

Spleunky 2, The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth and Enter The Gungeon

Spleunky 2, The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth and Enter The Gungeon

I just miss Castlevania.  Damn you, Konami...

I just miss Castlevania.  Damn you, Konami...

The End is Nigh, that's my favorite platformer.
Enter the Gungeon, I love that fun roguelikeness.
I dunno if Psychonauts counts but jesus I love the original.
Tiny & Big, a bit small but very fun.
Guacamelee, a really fun and replayable metroidvania.
Dark Deception, the only horror game i've liked so far and I follow the development closely.
those are my favorites.

@The Raymundos! oh shit yeah I forgot about yume nikki. Though after one playthrough it kinda becomes a bit boring I guess?<br>Still fun on a first playthrough though!

@The Raymundos! oh shit yeah I forgot about yume nikki. Though after one playthrough it kinda becomes a bit boring I guess?
Still fun on a first playthrough though!

Not sure what all counts exactly as an indie game, but one of my favorites just from story alone is "Oneshot". That game got me legitimately invested in the characters and actually sad at the end.

In terms of gameplay though, I don't really know. Would games like Cavestory and Overlord (1 and 2) be considered indie? If so then I'd say those are probably up there as some of my favorites.

DUSK and og minecraft are some of my favorite indie titles.

DUSK and og minecraft are some of my favorite indie titles.

epic battle fantasy is a real damn good series, 3 probably holds the most nostalgia for me of any video game ive ever played

Played a shit ton of indies but my favorite is Rimworld, its a colony simulator that can get pretty crazy with random events and shit like that, you can end up experiencing a really unique story 😅

Epic Battle Fantasy 5 is rly rly RLY fucking good. I was one of the ppl who got it for free in one of those giveaways and I was blown away

Cuphead, Hollow Knight, and The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Cuphead, Hollow Knight, and The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Hammerfight, S.T.A.L.K.E.R.(indie i guess? kinda small company, small budget etc), Grim Dawn and both Risk of Rains

Hammerfight, S.T.A.L.K.E.R.(indie i guess? kinda small company, small budget etc), Grim Dawn and both Risk of Rains

Since those are Kongregate titles I can throw in Gemcraft, Realm of the mad god, Sonny

Since those are Kongregate titles I can throw in Gemcraft, Realm of the mad god, Sonny

Enter the Gungeon is my favorite game ever so definitely that

Enter the Gungeon is my favorite game ever so definitely that

I’m gonna have to say the most overly picked indie, hit game undertale. Oh and deltarune

I’m gonna have to say the most overly picked indie, hit game undertale. Oh and deltarune

Enter the gungeon, hollow knight and hotline miami

Enter the gungeon, hollow knight and hotline miami

@Kalicula yes it is larian was still a "indie" studio when they made dos2

@Kalicula yes it is larian was still a "indie" studio when they made dos2

Among us, CPPSes, FNaF, technically Sonic Mania, Henry Stickman, Papa Louie, Bloons TD, etc.

Among us, CPPSes, FNaF, technically Sonic Mania, Henry Stickman, Papa Louie, Bloons TD, etc.

Mine are Bastion, Transistor, Pixel Car Racer, Door Kickers, Sierra 7, ROBOTS (Co-op and Reloaded), Horizon Chase, Pocket City, Rush Rally 2&3, and Amoung Us.

(Edit: fuck I forgot Celeste)

Epic battle fantasy is the fucking best, also lisa

Epic battle fantasy is the fucking best, also lisa

Tales of Maj'Eyal, great roguelike with a wide array of classes and playstyles.

Tales of Maj'Eyal, great roguelike with a wide array of classes and playstyles.

CrossCode, Bug Fables, Darkest Dungeon, Slay the Spire, Factorio, Darkwood, Hollow Knight

CrossCode, Bug Fables, Darkest Dungeon, Slay the Spire, Factorio, Darkwood, Hollow Knight

not sure if it'd count as indie, but, srb2 kart

not sure if it'd count as indie, but, srb2 kart

Binding of isaac, Enter The Gungeon, Hollow Knight, Pizza Tower, and Lisa

Binding of isaac, Enter The Gungeon, Hollow Knight, Pizza Tower, and Lisa

hollow knight, celeste, and undertale good game s

hollow knight, celeste, and undertale good game s

Hollow knight, Celeste, Shovel knight, death road to canada.

Hollow knight, Celeste, Shovel knight, death road to canada.

don't starve together, minecraft, geometry dash.

don't starve together, minecraft, geometry dash.

Say what you will about the creator, but Fez is a masterpiece and one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had

Say what you will about the creator, but Fez is a masterpiece and one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had

shovel knight, bloodstained: ritual of the night, rivals of aether, and postal 2. postal 2 is a guilty pleasure of mine. one of the rare examples of a game being so bad, so utterly foul, that it loops back to being amazingly fun.

Ik this sounds like everyone rn but among us its pretty cool and epic... its the only game i play anymore, send help
For a while i liked fnaf (i can agree the fanbase is horrible but its still pretty cool)

Ik this sounds like everyone rn but among us its pretty cool and epic... *its the only game i play anymore, send help*
For a while i liked fnaf (i can agree the fanbase is horrible but its still pretty cool)

I like celeste and hollow knight, idk if it counts but I've been having a lot of fun with bloodstained curse of the moon lately. Also stardew valley

Creeper World is a personal favorite of mine, love that game to bits, Binding of Isaac and Nuclear Throne are also good picks

Mine would be Hollow Knight, Fran Bow, and The Banner Saga

Mine would be Hollow Knight, Fran Bow, and The Banner Saga

Celeste, Hollow Knight, Katana Zero, Rivals of Aether, Furi, Enter the Gungeon, Spelunky 2, A Hat in Time, Dead Cells, Forgotten Anne, Gris, Hyper Light Drifter, Shovel Knight, uuuuuhhhhhhhh probably forgeting a few

@1 0 ayyy you play skullgirls? We gotta be friends on steam

@1 0 ayyy you play skullgirls? We gotta be friends on steam

Yume Nikki, Oneshot and A Hat In Time for me

Yume Nikki, Oneshot and A Hat In Time for me

Is Divinity Original Sin 2 Indie? Ah,whatever it's an awesome game.

Is Divinity Original Sin 2 Indie? Ah,whatever it's an awesome game.

Df lifeweb noita dungeons of dreadmo cataclysm dark days ahead

Df lifeweb noita dungeons of dreadmo cataclysm dark days ahead

Sunny 2 still holds very fond memories for me as an RPG

Sunny 2 still holds very fond memories for me as an RPG

I don't know if you'd called it Indie but "They are Billions" is my most played game. I put hundreds of hours into it. So addictive but satisfying and never unfair. Clever deep design. There is a learning curve, you need to watch videos to get the basics down but it will all click together at some point hours into the game and if you dig that kind of thing, it'll give you many hours of challenging gameplay that rarely feels like you're doing the same thing. Its a hidden gem.

Terraria and Rivals of Aether are some of my favourite games

Terraria and Rivals of Aether are some of my favourite games

Hotline Miami, Postal 2 and Castle Crashers.

Hotline Miami, Postal 2 and Castle Crashers.

mindustry, it's really fun and not really known

mindustry, it's really fun and not really known

@Jaquaviontavious Bonqueque XIV <b>YAMERO</b>

@Jaquaviontavious Bonqueque XIV *YAMERO*

Freedom Planet (best "Sonic" game, even more than Mania), Epic Battle Fantasy 5 (actually the best RPG in terms of gameplay I ever played, would seriously recommend.) Khimera: Destroy All the Monster Girls (nothing special but fun o3o), 100% Orange Juice (Extremely fun party game)

Binding of Issac, Among Us, Enter the Gungeon, Cuphead, Undertale, and Pikuniku. So yeah rougelikes and difficult games. And simple stuff, that stuff is fun too.

No Straight Roads is a pretty dope indie game

No Straight Roads is a pretty dope indie game

Hollow Knight, Undertale, Hades, The Binding of Isaac, Terraria, Minecraft

Hollow Knight, Undertale, Hades, The Binding of Isaac, Terraria, Minecraft

Man kingdom rush was the first indie game i ever played. All the way back in 1st grade. That was the shit.

Man kingdom rush was the first indie game i ever played. All the way back in 1st grade. That was the shit.

Celeste. A fun game that is challenging in a fair and wholesome way, while still delivering a story that can be used for deeper interpretation (something that helps me to enjoy a game even more, after finishing it). <br>On top of that it also delivers beautiful pixelart graphics and atmospheric music.

Celeste. A fun game that is challenging in a fair and wholesome way, while still delivering a story that can be used for deeper interpretation (something that helps me to enjoy a game even more, after finishing it).
On top of that it also delivers beautiful pixelart graphics and atmospheric music.

Hollow Knight, Subnautica, Terraria, Scrap mechanic, Enter the Gungeon, Noita, and Risk of Rain 2 to name a few. Probably going to buy Rivals of Aether soon.

I might've accidentally somehow replied this multiple times so apologies if that is the case.

Shyguymask My favorite indie game is Super Meat Boy.

Shyguymask My favorite indie game is Super Meat Boy.

Celeste, the entire ori series,  Stardew Valley, Hollow Knight, and cuphead

Celeste, the entire ori series,  Stardew Valley, Hollow Knight, and cuphead

@Zombie Ranger I Just got rimworld a few weeks ago, as did one of my friends. We've been exchanging stories of all the dumb shit our colonists do, and telling each other stories of our settlements. Like that time I tried to tame a thrumbo because I mean hey they're pretty cool and they both went on a rampage. good times. I also bought my friends as well as myself Deep Rock when it went on sale and we've been enjoying that. Enter the Gungeon is probably the most pure, raw fun game I've ever played. Not my favorite game ever, but it's definitely up there.

HOLY SHIT shyguymask you like creeper world? creeper world is one of the most underrated and obscure strategy games of all time

Not exactly sure what constitutes as an Indie game, so I'll go with my safe options and say Terraria, Noita, and OrbusVR. Orbus not for the gameplay itself, but rather the precedent it set for what is possible in the near future for my favorite game format at the moment, VR.

Epic battle Fantasy 4, Terraria, LBP2, Castle Crashers

Epic battle Fantasy 4, Terraria, LBP2, Castle Crashers

Witcherino 3 from this small hidden indie dev cd projekt red. I heard they’re gonna make another hidden gem

Witcherino 3 from this small hidden indie dev cd projekt red. I heard they’re gonna make another hidden gem

RimWorld, Deep Rock Galactic, 7 Days to Die, Starsector, Synthetik, Enter the Gungeon, Project Zomboid, Underrail, Astroneer, Factorio, Space Engineers, Frostpunk, M@B2 Bannerlord, Darkest Dungeon, the list goes on.

Biggest one is RimWorld, nearly got 1,000 hours in that majestic game.

Outer Wilds and Disco Elysium are two of most well written games of all time and came out in the same year. Outer wilds is the greatest indie game of all time in my opinion.

Crosscode is criminally underrated! Such a fantastic game!

Crosscode is criminally underrated! Such a fantastic game!

Yume Nikki, Rhythm Doctor, A Dance of Fire and Ice

Yume Nikki, Rhythm Doctor, A Dance of Fire and Ice

I haven't finished Crosscode, but I'm 50 hours in and it is already one of my favorite games.

I haven't finished Crosscode, but I'm 50 hours in and it is already one of my favorite games.

Deadbolt, Postal 2, and Ultrakill, Katana Zero.

Deadbolt, Postal 2, and Ultrakill, Katana Zero.

tyler the creator, you prob dont know him he is really underground.

tyler the creator, you prob dont know him he is really underground.


my man mentioned wings I’ve never been so happy RSK BABY


Same now it's just full of folks that take it waaaaaay to seriously

Me too then came the updates ruins everything


Bad games always have, and always will exist. We just don't remember the bad games from the 2000s.

@WaterMallin WaterBallin just search up young defiant

@The Messenger Although, besides that game which is technically the sequel, a modern one about actually surviving could be absolutely amazing if handled right.

@The Messenger The first half, IF YOU DO NOT SPOIL YOURSELF ON WHAT IS SCRIPTED, yes, it is actually enjoyable besides somewhat awkward shooting. Like I said, the biggest crime of that game is the dynamic systems they built about who is and isn't the thing works(Not that they are bad), but yeah. I would check it out, maybe watch a no coming walkthrough if you can't find a copy.

Shaman Xeed shit like that did happen back then especially in the 00’s with examples like driver 3’s controversy

Ooh. I 'member. MXM3, Big Mother Truckers, Tak and The Power of Juju and Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly. I could go on.

@Nether Warrior Yeah, I have heard there are good ones, but their budget and time is usually short so I usually stay clear of them unless someone explicitly tells me their good. Also, there was a The Thing game? Sounds cool

@The Messenger You know, some of those movie games had REAL potential, like The Thing. The framework was there, and the first part of the game is genuinely fun and scary (until you realize the scriptiness in play). All the dynamic systems were there, just not used how they should have been because of the story. I wish someone could take another shot at that one.

@The Messenger no prob. Hell, I'd even say he's impersonating him in all but name

@I am a PERSON Oh, didn't realize. Didn't even know who that was. Looked up the channel. Yeah, looks like a pretty generic critic channel. Thanks for the heads up

@Nether Warrior Yeah, that's true, like the movie games

@The Messenger he's literally just copying Young Defiant's recent video word for word, since he's a clout chaser.

Well, I remember that as an era where you could get a bad game, but you could get it for like $5, so it was like 'big deal'. Not saying there WAS NOT expensive bad games but they often ended up in the discount bin anyway.

@Shaman Xeed Wait, how can gamers today have zero backbone if you just said that they make big deals over games failing now? Unless you're talking about how they buy terrible games no matter how much bad press they get which is true. Though I do agree on making a big deal over nothing now, there has been huge video essays but it's just a source of revenue people use I guess, very successful too.

There are bad games in the 2000s but they were funny. Bad games in the 2010s and now are just boring.


There's one thing I have noticed improving in games, accessibility options. I'm disabled, I can't mash buttons fast enough for most QTEs in games. I believe God Of War was the first, and Spider-man was the next for me. I remember trying to play story mode in COD WWII, I just couldn't make it past the part where you have to mash out of the guy stabbing you. They're fucking up a lot of things in games but they're also taking baby steps to better them in other ways

Trust me, man, QTEs are hated by most gamers. I wish more games would give you the option to disable them.


Playing a game before making an opinion on it??? Idk man sounds like a whole lotta nonsense


The 2010s was more of a mixed bag for gaming.<br>Edit: now when I think back on gaming history the 2010s is a lot better than what we give it credit for

The 2010s was more of a mixed bag for gaming.
Edit: now when I think back on gaming history the 2010s is a lot better than what we give it credit for

@SomeOne True, games from the 2000s were just as mixed as games in the 2010s and the newest decade we are in now

Do you think that games in the 2000s weren't. This is just survivorship bias.

The detoration of FIFA.
The death of dead space and gears of war.
The revival of Resident Evil and the pinnacle of comic book games.

It’s interesting how masterpieces like Minecraft, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Titanfall 2 (along with innovative games like Fortnite) exist alongside absolute embarrassments like Mass Effect: Andromeda and Madden 21. This has been a really strange decade.


2:13 half of the people who voted for your tweet, not half of all people.


This video seems like its clouded by  Nostalgia. You reference the 45% on your poll, 2000s peps, but dont really talk about that other 55% of people that enjoyed the 2010s. That was my year of gaming and ive played games from both eras. I just enjoyed that year of gaming more.

Infamous, uncharted, Minecraft., Roblox, Totalwar, Civ 5 and so many more. And from the 2000s, Mount and Blade, Mario sunshine and literally anything from the Game Cube. All very good games I remeber fondly.

I think you make some good points about single player games decreasing. But I think just like the majority of the video, I think all of these problems are not definitive of the 2010s but instead define the industry for the last 3-4 years

The first p2w mechanics were introduced by EA sports in the late 2000s. It has been an issue for the decade, we all are just noticing it now.

"nostalgia" is such a crap excuse, thief 1 and 2 were so early on that I never heard of them but I played them within the last 4 years and they were the best games I've ever played.

Shadow warrior from the 90s is one of the best fps games I've played and I didn't it play it more than 5 years ago

You people wanna blame nostalgia but the games were just better, better focus on fun, Story, game design, meanwhile today games are overall expected to be crap and disappointment.

Yeah honestly I thought it was odd how he blatantly ignored the majority voting against his point

I think his points are well warranted, but I see your point as well. For instance, there will always be outliers and exceptional gems no matter where you draw from the timeline. I think Civ V is a great example, but keep in mind that the 2000s have Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 BABY!!!!

All jokes aside, there's a reason that most of gaming culture has gone off into (online) multiplayer, with the exception of a subbranch of cynics who have pioneered the Indie genre, the roguelikes and lites, the tycoon-istic variants of games that more often than not, are more singleplayer in their approach. And due to that, they often mimic the graphical choices of the 2000s. (Obviously, that too has its exceptions, just look at Risk of Rain 2)


Yo the gamer from Mars bit got tf outta me


At this point I only trust indie games, they cost less, and are way more enjoyable than some cookie cutter re-re-re-release AAA game.<br>(Like most things there are exceptions)

At this point I only trust indie games, they cost less, and are way more enjoyable than some cookie cutter re-re-re-release AAA game.
(Like most things there are exceptions)

They usually also have new ideas that a lot of companies are afraid to try, like different types of Simulation games ranging from making software, developing games, driving trucks and even cooking for god's sake.

Of course, there are loads of AAA games that can be played and enjoyed, that also have great ideas, but it seems that lately most innovation in terms of risk with ideas is coming from indie devs.


I just felt this was to overtly pessimistic and jaded with bias, the fun experience you described are identical to my experiences to what me and my friends have accomplished, you can achieve what you used to have with local play with discord calls and console parties, what used to be done with the family with the wii or 3ds with friends is now accomplished by a switch, I have those comfort fun games that you mention that came out from 2016, when team shooters were getting over saturated just like battle royals on a smaller scale, what I really believe it comes down to is like you said, over saturation, but I think a large part of it is living through it, I think I’ll get more worn out of gaming too in the coming years, I don’t think it’s the gaming community or manufacturers fault, at least not completely, you can only enjoy something so much and I think you’ve almost out grown it, and only been exposed to the loud outliers with the position your in as a content creator, these aren’t the most well thought out points, im mostly rambling my ideas, and that’s what makes your content so easy to consume, because of you putting your ideas out there, and I can’t help but respect that.

@Gaige Figueroa Thats not what i meant. Wtf?

@MMFan2004 your absolutely correct, he like everyone is ok to have biases, but saying something isn’t the same, or what he perceives is getting worse, I think it’s valuable that he realizes how he isn’t able to look at games like how he used to, and how he used to we do now

@Internetzspacezshipz oh I see. No wonder why you wrote that commentary.

I completely agree. This video is purely a sensationalistic opinion piece.


half of these games are only fun with mods.


Playing Horizon Zero Dawn, I have heard great things about. My experience is frustrating combat, weird facial expression, and a setting that is interesting, but gets boring pretty quickely. Then I play Recore, haven't heard alot about it, not even from many big youtubers. Turned out to be a pretty fun game with fun combat, solid controls, a likable playable character, and some good challenging sequenzes without making me wanna throw my control away. Do you see where I am going with this?


10:39
>de Blob
>shovelware game

This is outragous, its unfair


Mate I only play ss13 and that game plays like a history book so I will live on


That’s why it’s more fun to look for a game that is fun to play and gets little attention like Antonball or Pizza Tower. Also speaking of modding, Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has a lot of mods that even continues being made to this day by modders adding in Super content. That’s dedication there.


I dunno chief card games are pretty low effort even when compared to Valve's small VR releases. And especially when you consider the gap between Valve's golden era and HL: Alyx, I think the source of disappointment came from feeling as if that was the final nail in the coffin as Valve seen as game developers. Not from the game being subpar.


Destiny 2 worse than Destiny 1... All imma say...


EmpLemon: One of the most universally hated games in the genre.
NASCAR 08: Based on 15 Ratings
EmpLemon: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that

EmpLemon: One of the most universally hated games in the genre.
NASCAR 08: *Based on 15 Ratings*
EmpLemon: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that

Dogshit is dogshit regardless of how many people see it.

@MatPat from game theory i genuinely forget halo 5 exists despite still playing halo since CE released. it was so bad that I've owned it since release and not even beaten the second mission in the game.

@Logan if it's pumped out without any care and put in a market with thousands of other games like it, it'll probably be forgotten.

@Creppersaurus Rex How can something be mainstream and forgotten.

Well, i mean, if its a "mainsteam" game that got 15 reviews, and they're mostly bad, you can be sure it's worse thzn bad, it's bad and forgotten


The only game I’m fine with when it comes to being unfinished at launch then being updated to a much better state, is No Man’s Sky. The only thing Shaun Murray was guilty of was being over ambitious.

Yeah, despite lacking a good bit of features that people were looking forward to at launch, Sean and Hello Games took the brunt of online backlash (they're currently 26 people strong, mind you) and actively worked to make NMS better for free instead of dropping the project or resorting to the paid DLC route, and for that I respect them a good bit more than similar cases of bad launches (Fallout 76).

JJPMB 1 to me it seems like he really wanted to make he best game that he could and simply needed more time to make it.

Yomom12388 we’re talking about stuff from over 20 years ago, since the 2000’s he hasn’t made a truly great game. Redguard nearly killed Bethesda, and every game since has been a buggy mess. It’s clear that the advancements in tech from the 90’s to now has been too much for Todd, he can’t keep up. The people under him also seem less than talented if the quality of Skyrim and Fallout 4 are anything to go by, both of which are both downgrades of what came before.

Slender Man 186 Todd Howard seems to generally be more of a marketing guy these days but he’s a genuinely talented developer with a catalogue of some pretty impressive shit. He worked at Bethesda for nearly a decade before becoming the well known executive producer that he is today. Look at what he was able to do with some Terminator games back in the late 90’s.

M4RZ wrong, seems like you didn’t watch IH’s video either. Most people didn’t even watch Shaun’s interviews, the hype was mostly propagated by ‘journalists’ in the industry as well as E3. Shaun wanted to temper expectations, but he couldn’t talk down his game because of Sony, and the interviewers were practically grilling him to the point where he couldn’t say no. Shaun’s a developer, not a spokesperson, he doesn’t know how to handle that kind of on-the-spot pressure, unlike Todd Howard who’s a spokesperson that pretends to be a developer, which is far worse honestly.

hes the only reason that game had too much hype. IH's video shows this really well, but somehow i dont even think emplemon watched it despite using clips from it

I would not say he was not guilty of some things, however I can agree he did make up for it.


I have never listened to critics. They often don't know what i like.


15:50 it's valve's own fault. Their niche is specifically high quality games, not microtransaction trash.


I've been playing my ps3 more and more nowadays lol


The first second.
You got me in the first second.

Nascar thunder 2004 is one of the core games that shaped my childhood.

The others including the microsoft pinball game, command and conquer generals zero hour, AOE2, Mechwarrior vengeance, unreal tournament 2003/GOTY edition, and many more.

My taste in Games was shaped and solidified by an awesome dad who built a 9 player gamer room with full LAN play but no internet connection.

So i got to play his favorites, the classics and the obscure.
I love videogames.


Couldn't agree more! One thing you missed tho is games getting easier because they gotta cater to the bigger audience so people like me who been beating video games since I was 7-8 years old can't find any good challenges hard mode has just become people being lazy and giving enemies more health instead of better AI.. I just started playing Fallout New Vegas last month I heard people saying it isn't fun cause the graphics are outdated which doesn't matter to me as long as the games fun! It usually runs bad but XB1 runs it pretty good

Fallout NV is great got almost 900 hours in that game probably more than that considering I played it a lot back on xbox 360


I've spent a lot of time floating around internet video game communities, and at no point have I encountered someone forward thinking enough to come up with a joke with more punch than PAID UPDATE DLC POKEMON


"My most played game of all time is team fortress 2"<br>S a m e

"My most played game of all time is team fortress 2"
S a m e

Same, with a close second being Rimworld


no wonder racing games are a dying category, since NO racing game after blur and split/second has ever tried to be as experimental as them (except for rocket league, but IT'S A CAR SOCCER GAME, NOT A RACING GAME) damn, i wish there was a game that wasn't repetitive, was fun online and offline, and was atleast abit innovative and popular and memorable atleast for this year


How to sum up the video

Game companies: charge more money for dlc and pay to win transactions to make the game actually "fun" ripping off the buyers in the process

Game companies: let's hold licenses in a death grip so we can keep making crappy games and not allow any other company to improve it

Game companies: let's keep doing the same thing over and over again, you like pokemon kids well here's pokemon but with graphics that look worse than the 3ds

Indie developers: how about we make something fun and innovative but still simple and cost efficient

Game companies: that's where you are wrong kiddo people will keep buying the same stuff over and over if we keep hyping it and making it good enough as to not have a Twitter army destroying it

Game fans: hahaha money go burr into micro transactions

How to sum up the video

Game companies: *charge more money for dlc and pay to win transactions to make the game actually "fun" ripping off the buyers in the process*

Game companies: *let's hold licenses in a death grip so we can keep making crappy games and not allow any other company to improve it*

Game companies: *let's keep doing the same thing over and over again, you like pokemon kids well here's pokemon but with graphics that look worse than the 3ds*

Indie developers: *how about we make something fun and innovative but still simple and cost efficient*

Game companies: *that's where you are wrong kiddo people will keep buying the same stuff over and over if we keep hyping it and making it good enough as to not have a Twitter army destroying it*

Game fans: *hahaha money go burr into micro transactions*

might as well watch the video at that point


The most recent deus Ex games, Metro Exodus, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, Horizon Zero Dawn, Half Life Alyx, and many more are all bigass games that are all pretty amazing, but people seem to think the triple A game industry is dead or dying. thats a lot of AAA hits for like 8 years, and i left out nintendo games, and some ps exclusives. Oh, and none of the games i listed have microtransactions... Games have not been on a downward spiral... games are just a lot harder to cover up when they flop... back in the day if a game failed, you just didnt hear about it...

I would even say it was worse in ignorance. Licensed games sold loads despite being crap just for being licensed off a movie or show, there wasn't an easy way to check up a review or score, you'd have to buy a games magazine and possibly even a back issue just to read a review, let alone an aggregate like there is today, most magazines were "official" magazines that basically never reviewed a game badly because they were forced to give 6+ review scores every time. Plus parents just bought what their kids asked them to buy with little gauge of quality themselves being non gamers. Information is just a google away today and nobody has the excuse of being ignorant anymore, problem is there is so much opinion and not enough professional opinion, even professional sites are all opinioned today because people reacting very emotionally gets the views.


"The same is true for Minecraft's less respected but equally popular cousin, ROBLOX."

I feel offended at something I completely agree with. Our community is a mess.

Roblox sucks, as a person who played it since 2014 and only recently realized it.

@64bitmodels they removed tix because people where using bots for them

@P8nda #sadcaba at least there are some tiny gems hidden they're extremely rare but you can stumble upon a good game<br>the front page sucks ass though it's a lot of searching

@P8nda #sadcaba at least there are some tiny gems hidden they're extremely rare but you can stumble upon a good game
the front page sucks ass though it's a lot of searching

@P8nda #sadcaba it sucks too because since they removed tix in 2016 its basically impossible to get robux from regular gameplay, you either make a game, trade, or pull out that credit card <br>guests were also removed in 2017 so you HAVE to sign in in order to play roblox, and even then compared to being a guest, without robux you have the same priveleges as a guest, except you can change your avatar a bit. it sucks man what happened to roblox

@P8nda #sadcaba it sucks too because since they removed tix in 2016 its basically impossible to get robux from regular gameplay, you either make a game, trade, or pull out that credit card
guests were also removed in 2017 so you HAVE to sign in in order to play roblox, and even then compared to being a guest, without robux you have the same priveleges as a guest, except you can change your avatar a bit. it sucks man what happened to roblox

tbh roblox is exactly like modern AAA games.
ex. when fall guys got popular, within 24 hours fall guys clones were already announced.
same thing with among us, not even 72 hours after among us blew up there were among us clones.
and they are riddled with microtransactions, and so is the platform as a whole, with robux just being shoved in your face every time you want to do something.

moral of the story, roblox sucks.

@Cassandra Pantaristi Roblox is pretty great though, really good for building.

He should've mentioned Terraria, not Roblox.


whenever i hear someone talk about games not being the same anymore... or they suck now. i ask they well have you played any indie games? Indie games are so important. and if youre looking for that feeling you got as a kid playing mario 64, indie games is where its at.

Methos Most indie games are on console. What are you on about

Well in my case i don't play on PC so that's already a lot of stuff i can't play. Also a lot of these indie games tend to be 2d side scrollers and such which is not something i care for. Some of the stuff coming out of Japan tends to scratch my itch more but most of that is rpg's and visual novels which tend to be quite the time commitment.


These videos make me remember what it is like to feel


Personally, I disagree with many of your points, and I think leaving nostalgia out of the equation was a big miss, but I will agree to disagree . Ultimately I think this is a good video. 4/10, great graphics.


I would say AAA games are on a downward spiral, indies are stronger than ever.

If you ignore most crappy indie games like hdtf or yandere

Hollow Knight,Skullgirls,Cuphead <br>2-D animated indie games

Hollow Knight,Skullgirls,Cuphead
2-D animated indie games

@Cherno i fell like most people consider anything not AAA to be indie.

AA games are as well on the upward (most of what we would call "indie" is actually just AA in disguise) two of my favorite games from the past 5 years are Insurgency Sandstorm and Squad

People seem to forget that indie games are more than just shovel knight and cuphead. It also includes the thousands of shitty games on steam that nobody notices or cares about. But they're still indie games. You can't ignore the shit indie games, because that would be like ignoring the shit AAA games and saying that AAA games are as good as ever.

@Squinchy we are not talking about money here we are talking about the actual heart soul put in to making games.

@Squinchy when someone says "better than ever" they're comparing the same object but in different instances of time. Of course they don't get nearly as much money as AAA games. If you still disagree, then, can you point out any time indie games were better off then right now?

Richie Cook Yeah, AAA games make more money than indie games, that’s why they’re indie.

@Doom58 your not wrong but that also seems to be the place gems these days come from too.

Indies are fine but a lot of them seems to be copying each other especially in art style.


Mainstream Triple A gaming has been on a huge decline for years now I feel. I find it rare to ever give a crap about a new release when there are plenty of games in my physical and digital library that already fill the void. There's just so many games that end up dead on arrival, (EA, Activision Blizzard, and Ubisoft seem extremely great at this.), that it's been hard to get excited for any sort of new release when I'm expecting extreme fuck ups. More often the big games I do care about are from franchises that lost their touch, (Kingdom Hearts 3 (to an extent), Guitar Hero Live, Fallout 4 + 76, Sonic Forces, Borderlands 3, the list can kinda go on. Don't know if these are considered BIG.), or happen to be attached to systems I don't want to buy into, (Playstation 4 and Nintendo Switch), due to how expensive it can get.

Granted games themselves haven't lost their touch. I've been enjoying the hell out of lesser known titles and indie games here and there. We're getting a lot of remakes / remasters that do a lot more than just upscale textures. There are some genuinely interesting Triple A titles that I HOPE don't fail.

Besides. At the end of the day, if another crappy game comes out, I can just go back to Team Fortress 2. Or Clone Hero. Or Minecraft. Or... pretty much anything I already own with tons of replayability that I enjoy.


THE OLD WORLD IS DIEING
THE NEW WORLD IS STRUGGLING TO BE BORN
NOW IS THE TIME OF MONSTERS


Imagine actually caring about Sports games.

I can't.

Me either.

Unless you count something like Tony Hawk: Pro Skater.

Me either.

Unless you count something like _Tony Hawk: Pro Skater._

Especially from the big sports franchises who don't care about fun in the first place.

Though many sports themselves would be outmoded entirely if not for sponsorships.


Good video, but de Blob was fun and I will not accept the slander


Literally all the features you listed saying I wouldn't have features......

steam


Luckily, TF2 is still living, despite being from 2000s


yes this is why I only play pacman and never grand theft auto 5


No...Video games have been on the floor since 2010s

@All I can say is Wow! MODDING also has been going strong since the 90s.

@prophet of indrid cold That's pretty fair considering indie games bring me my only true gaming joy. You're right.

Correction, AAA games have been on the floor while indie games have been rising high.


Honestly I think it's kinda sad that a lot of classical come from the old days but guess that's what makes the new gems even better


I really quit video games altogether. No joke or hyperbole. The industry makes me sick.


No one will ever experience a jump in game difference like there was in SNES > N64 > PS2 ... each opened up a completely different world of gaming ... you had to "be there"<br>(Rather than a slight graphical upgrade to the same thing)

No one will ever experience a jump in game difference like there was in SNES > N64 > PS2 ... each opened up a completely different world of gaming ... you had to "be there"
(Rather than a slight graphical upgrade to the same thing)


Have you ever wondered why ubisoft has a downward spiral for a logo?


I have a high end PC with a 48.5" display, and my favourite game in 2021,  is modded Doom 2 with custom maps.  Then it is Age of Empires 2:DE. Then the System Shock series.  Basically old games with modern QOL improvements.  Is it because back then games were made for intelligent geeks that required patience and skill?  and now games are made for the average ADD child who wants flashy shit at the press of a button?

@RampageBlizzard Play some Doom 2 megawads like Hell Revealed  then tell me original Doom doesn't take skill.   I don't know so much about Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal because I only play the old dooms.
But when you compare it to trash like Call of Duty  which is literally "press F to win", it's sad that Doom a game that is almost 30 years now,  takes more skill than most modern trash.
I guess the difference is, video games like Doom and System Shock were designed for older gamers,  and geekier gamers too, so they were designed with a bit of intelligence.
Call of Duty and games like that, are designed for little boys so they are pretty much just flashy skins, press F to see your character model do some badass looking but ultimately pointless pap.

I guess looking at your profile  you like playing JRPG loli games, hell I can respect that but I prefer the shota ones myself

Since when does doom take skill? It’s a shoot ‘em up where the action is non-stop, keeping the dopamine flowing constantly. May I add that you’re fighting ai? And that flashy shit at the press of a button? Would that be like the chainsaw in doom????


The lack of local multiplayer drove me to board games and I’m so glad it did. You can’t patch a board game or hook it up to the web, so a lot of video games’ BS with broken games at launch or micro transactions doesn’t exist and there’s a wide array of experiences available.


We need to bring back the "Simple Game". Hell, I'm willing to do what I can to fund the development of it.

Something that adheres to the "Keep It Simple, Stupid" mindset and focuses on one main genre but does it well. Think along the lines of a throwback to PS2-era mid-budget games. No online multiplayer and no DLCs or microtransactions. If people are willing to get past the old-school graphics and play the game, it could do well.

@Retro Roy I really loved the stanley parable.

That's why I love Subnautica. It's way too enjoyable for its price.

Мария Мамина

@Retro Roy Well, that’s your opinion. But, Hope you have fun with hollow knight, it’s an amazing game!

@Exo  I don't really like Stardew Valley or games like that. I might try out Hollow Knight or Hades, but to be honest, I don't care for all these family-friendly "quirky" titles that seem to be so dominant in indie games. Some of the "PS1 Horror" indie games do look interesting though.

@Retro Roy That’s true, But there are some out there which are really good!! Such as hollow knight, hades, Celeste & stardew valley; You should give them all a shot, you won’t regret it.... trust me. Those are some great games we’re talking about....

@Exo There are a few indie games I find interesting though.

@Exo Problem with indie games is that so many are either pretentious artsy hipster/punk culture fare or throwbacks to eras and genres I have no interest in


Back in the days you would buy AAA games to get that classic gamer experience. Now you got to find indie games and hope the company stays indie instead of joining a bigger company and losing its individuality


Great video. I am glad I have found my own taste in games and I don't play the huge overblown and overadvertised game "blockbusters". The few games I look for and find are mostly very satisfying.


If I could go back to a time where CS 1.6 was in its prime again I would in a heart beat.


I get some of these points in this but overall I disagree, yeah there's been a lot of shit but i don't consider myself sentient back in the 2000s. A simple building game would entertain me for months and months when i was younger. There is a GIANT amount of rose tinted glasses wearers in the comment section. I think the real issue is games being not finished now a days. With the internet available now everyone can now quickly see all the garbage that is being put out compared to past where only good games would be well known by the simple fact that only good games would sell. Selling = publicity back then, very different now. The shift of quality has moved from AAA studios from small indie studios and I don't think the majority of people just don't understand that yet. The quality of games will shift from big teams to small teams over time naturally, and right now the quality is in small teams. Back in the day it was in big teams simply because small teams didn't even have a chance at success. Games seemed to have been on a downward spiral simply because the information age has allowed us to see the entire scope of the spiral in just a few clicks. The whole profit idea and the consequences of the gaming industry booming is 100% right tho

Games not being finished is a huge problem and one of the main issues in all genres but there are many more problems than that, too many


The death of local multiplayer will ALWAYS be the most baffling and saddest part of 2010s game decline to me. Online multiplayer's okay, but why couldn't it have just coexisted with local multiplayer instead of replacing it?


Nice video (really, i like it a lot), but about the "negativity" aspect;
Where are these negative people you speak about? The ones relentlessly bashing games and seemingly hoping new games fail...?

The reason i'm asking is because we NEED MORE of it. We need MORE cynical and harsh people, not afraid of picking apart the bones of any new game.

From my personal experience, this attitude is HATED and quite literally SHAMED as soon as it shows itself... The overwhelming majority will come together like a hivemind and figuratively beat anyone who dares not agree with them into a pulp until they're scared of showing they opinion ever again...
I'm exaggerating, obviously... but also, i'm not reeeally exaggerating...
Ignorance is bliss, and the common person is so horrifically scared of thinking that something they don't like isn't absolute perfection itself.
It's... honestly quite scary, just how blind people can be to their own emotions taking control, and how pathetically strong those emotions can be for literally no good reason...
This isn't even a problem specific to videogames, but it's worth mentioning. (even if almost no one will likely see this comment lol)


In all frankness, this is a really fascinating topic I'm pretty glad someone decided to tackle. Personally, I've been intertwined with videogames my whole life, to the point where nowadays i fill my free time with making games or mods. My interest in the hobby leads me to play hundreds of games on a yearly basis and I'm genuinely surprised that this is the way people see videogames on the outside. Every single one of the topics, themes and ideas, with possibly the only exclusion being flat out sports games, though I don't play those enough to have a proper opinion on the matter. Simple games crop up all the time, it's what gatherings like Ludum Dare are for. Yearly and monthly gatherings of game devs who sit down to make a game with the most basic concept in 48 hours. And simply stated, tons of the games presented there end up being liked so much, they're expanded into full goofy little games that can just take up whatever time they feel necessary, depending on the scope of course. Friday Night Funkin is the most recent example. A ludum dare concept that people loved so dearly, it got a full sized game, with an active modding scene and a cult following, because of it's extreme simplicty. It's a rhythm game that has none of the bells and whistles of any other. It's just simple fun and has a boat-load of charm. Another example of a simple game is Devil Daggers, a game where there are literally only 7 buttons in play ever. The movement keys and two mouse buttons. It's extremely simple, just shoot some enemies and try to survive as long as possible, and yet it oozes charm and is so insanely replayable it can seriously become a thing you do practically daily. The binding of isaac is also extremely simple, but has a ton of content that you can easily not see in years. Warframe is a great example of a game with thousands of hours of content that is just FUN. My main point is that videogames haven't become worse by any means, it's just that on the very surface the situation has deteriorated, and while old games still have an incredible charm, it's unquestionable that the videogames of today are thousands of times better than they were before.

Александър Бояджиев


Simplicity and fun beats millions of side quests and unnecessary customization options


To me, it seems like a lot of nostalgia clouds some of the folks who want the games from the 2000's to make a comeback.

1. Save game mechanics have become so much better. I remember having to write down complex strings of passcode for 8bit games on scraps of paper as a 4 year old and that code had to be to the letter. If you screwed up a letter or wrote an uppercase for lowercase you can kiss that day goodbye. Hell, if you were a poor person in the earlier 2000's you still had no way of keeping your progress other than running the PS2 or Gamecube all the time and hoping your parental figure didn't turn the console off while you were at a friend's house or school.

2. Some of the games from that era have been broken by the passage of time. Shenmue is a good example of this. At the time it was considered to be a masterpiece of storytelling and technology, but now it's a mechanically annoying and just terribly written franchise with bad combat mechanics and a arbitary time system. Another one is GoldenEye, you get shot by antlike pixels in the background, the controls are unpleasant, the graphics are just *excellent*.

3. Despite the fact that multi-million dollar studios continuously eat shit when it comes to their multi-million dollar franchises that take 500 gigs of data just to play and a day one patch of another 50gb, little independent game studios can write a game in about 200 megabytes and be a household name and not need day one patches.

To me, it seems like a lot of nostalgia clouds some of the folks who want the games from the 2000's to make a comeback.

1. Save game mechanics have become so much better. I remember having to write down complex strings of passcode for *8bit* games on scraps of paper as a 4 year old and that code had to be to the letter. If you screwed up a letter or wrote an uppercase for lowercase you can kiss that day goodbye. Hell, if you were a poor person in the earlier 2000's you still had no way of keeping your progress other than running the PS2 or Gamecube all the time and hoping your parental figure didn't turn the console off while you were at a friend's house or school.

2. Some of the games from that era have been broken by the passage of time. Shenmue is a good example of this. At the time it was considered to be a masterpiece of storytelling and technology, but now it's a mechanically annoying and just terribly written franchise with bad combat mechanics and a arbitary time system. Another one is GoldenEye, you get shot by antlike pixels in the background, the controls are unpleasant, the graphics are just *excellent*.

3. Despite the fact that multi-million dollar studios continuously eat shit when it comes to their multi-million dollar franchises that take 500 gigs of data just to play and a day one patch of another 50gb, little independent game studios can write a game in about 200 megabytes and be a household name and not need day one patches.

I agree with the first and third point in some regards but the second one is bullshit.
Games are software, they can’t change over time or become worse since they can’t lose or gain anything (unless in very specific occasions). Complaints like “It’s annoying to control” usually don’t come from the game being it but we’re used to games having homogenized inputs in many aspects.
In the same way people say all tanks controls are bad but they ignore how many are designed around them.

@Wesley Trout very, I wouldn't trade dark souls, bloodbourne, and sekiro for anything made in the "good old times"

It's minimal. Homogeny, feature bloat, piecemeal DLC focused experiences, and "games as a lifestyle" are Hallmarks of this era. I don't idolize the mid 00's  some of my favorite games are from this era but they are exceedingly rare and mid 00's games had more variety and flavors even if they were flawed.


While there is absolutely a good deal of merit to the idea that video games have regressed in the past decade, nostalgia also plays a massive part in the distaste of current games and reverence of old ones. We were the first generation to grow up with massively mainstream video games for nearly our entire lives, and the games we played as children will forever be perceived through rose tinted goggles. If you handed a modern 12 year old a copy of call of duty Cold War and a copy of Medal of Honor, odds are they’ll play Cold War more. On top of that, while AAA games might not have received massive innovation in the past decade, the indie game market has exploded and continues to release incredible and innovative titles each month, and just a bit of searching will help you find games that you’ll love, often at far cheaper prices than what those large corporations offer as well.


I feel like I agree with a lot of what was said but also feel something was missing.  Gaming has become big business and the modern state of online multiplayer is really hurting things.  Many of the questionable business practices and issues with toxic communities brought up in this video have they're roots in multiplayer games.  And that's unfortunate. But I do think things can improve, for now it's just growing pains.

However with all that said I believe we are in a really good era of single player and local multiplayer gaming.  Many single player games are better than they ever have been.  While many of them still are sequels, they often play significantly better than there older counter parts. Take for example resident evil.  I have been a huge resident evil fan since RE4.  And I still consider it the best game in the series.  If I were to try and introduce a new player to the series now, I wouldn't begin with RE4.  The controls can be a bit odd by modern standards and some elements of its design are a bit clunky.  RE2 remake plays much better, look much nicer, has much better voice acting and it's design is faithful while also feeling fresh.  The same can be said for RE7 and hopefully the trend will continue with RE8.  The same can't be said for the resident evil games of the 2000's with RE 4 being the only real highlight.  Remake was good but no one played it until it was re released in 2015.  Zero was a mess.  Outbreak was a neat idea but poorly executed.  RE5 was when the series began to slip into more of an action experience. Of course culminating in RE6.  And let's not forget that games like operation raccoon city exist.

I think resident evil can be used as an example of a franchise that became far too corporate after a while.  And this design philosophy of chasing trends in single player games was common around the turn of the decade.  But it never really worked out for publishers.  And since many have let they're developers have more creative freedom. Resulting in some really special games this decade.

I guess what I am saying is that while gaming has its problems now, it's always had problems.  Many issues with toxic communities and over hyped games still happened in the 2000s.  And when revisiting many games from that era, they don't play as well as you might remember.  It was a weird time for gaming in the 2000s and lots of experiments were being tried. Some of it worked, which is the stuff we all remember.  Most of it didn't and we've forgotten about that. The over saturation of gaming related content has left many feeling the fatigue today.  I think as players it's time for most of us to step back and just enjoy some games that look like fun to us.  Try and avoid the conversations online instead just talk with friends about what you've been playing.  Pick up an indie you've heard good things about.  If you're primarily a multiplayer person try some single player stuff.  Or try some co op games with friends, there are still good co op games out there, overcooked is a great example.  Fighting games have arguably never been better and those can all be played with friends on a couch.  I don't think gaming is on a downward spiral, I just think the era of gaming related internet content is beginning to cool off.


Roblox isn't a single game, it's a server hosting & game making platform, along with a ton of other stuff tacked on.
Along with that roblox has a very personal level as it's easy to make friends while being able to create your own communities with ease.
It's also alota the devs are highly self aware, a development group was ligit called shovelware studios.


I think another reason why people come up with their opinions before they buy the game is because as you said, the majority of game companies care more about their profit margins then trying produce an enjoyable experience out of passion, so now consumer is forced to find out whether the game is a cash grab or an actually well thought out game before they buy it as they dont want to waste their money. This did not used to happen because the game was complete out of the box and showcased the full vision of the devs and the consumer could be confident in there decision of purchasing a good game, whereas the devs now release incomplete games and have shown themselves to be less trustworthy, forcing the consumer to grow distrustful of major game dev companies and critical before giving it a chance.

we shouldn't feel the need to criticise a game before weve played it but the way the game industry functions forces the consumer to be this way


Every medium goes through an existential slump. We've yet to hit the renaissance of video games.


I especially hate it when people hate on a game that is actually good, my friend played We Happy Few which got bad ratings for being glitchy, and he said it was a great experience with little bugs at all, if that game released now I bet people would appreciate a bit more


To answer the question posed 5 months later. Yes. Will it result in another video game crash? I hope so, because that would only harm the AAA game developers that deserve to be harmed. Steam wont go anywhere, old games are still good and for sale. New games will still get made by smaller teams with more passion and less care for polished graphics. Lets face it, that's where most of your budget is going these days. When you buy a AAA title these days, you're paying for the prettiest casino money can code, oh and also some paid re-skins you can buy separately. Don't like the paid re-skins we gave you? Too bad. You'll get banned if you re-skin something yourself. That breaks the ToS that's literally 2 reams of office paper thick if you try and print the damn thing.


1:59 I honestly belive Cod infinity warfare is good game with VERY GOOD campaign - something that made cod popular in the first place. Sure, mp in mw2 blew this game up and nothing will top that but this game, even though set in the future, was very good back to the origins - very strong story, actually new ideas and better graphic.


One game i really like is geometry dash.<br>I know it's very simple, but there are many levels made by the community which if you finish 1 level, there is already gonna be another 10. I know a lot of people who have stuck with it for years.

One game i really like is geometry dash.
I know it's very simple, but there are many levels made by the community which if you finish 1 level, there is already gonna be another 10. I know a lot of people who have stuck with it for years.


That being said, there’s a lot of good mid tier games these days, Minecraft is so much fun, and mobile games can be good


Add MVP Baseball 2005 and WWF No Mercy from 2001 to the list of games that have yet to be improved upon on their genres.


Like that he brings up the prevalence of "negative content" in a video centered around how bad games are today


Time tested franchises have suffered, but there's yet to be a total absence of absolute masterpieces. Metro Exodus, God of War, Sekiro, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order, Super Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, the Hitman franchise post 2016, Doom 16 and Eternal, and even remakes like RE2 and Demons Souls...the list goes on. There's no shortage of incredible works of art. Is there a decline in gaming? Yes in some areas, and there are some bad practices at play, but video gaming in general is just as incredible as it's ever been.


The whole hype train nonsense is exactly the reason why I buy games a bit after release and avoid announcements (also lack of funds lmao). To me there's no point in getting my hopes up about games coming out anymore bc lackluster games with a shiny cover are just the norm now. Finding a game that's well reviewed later on (esp indie games) and trying it out is a way better experience and I don't go in with ridiculous expectations. I just get what I see for the most part.


if i'm being honest I haven't played a AAA game in a while just indies. If, anyone's looking for suggestions, i recommend risk of rain 2 and terraria. I've had a lot of fun playing with my friends, and if you think you don't like indie games, these are indie games, but they feel like a mix between AAA with their polish and indies with their creativity, so they're good transitions.

to those who are into indie games already tho, i recommend these if you haven't played them: Celeste, rain world, and crypt of the necrodancer,


Gamers wanted gaming to seem "mature and grown-up" whatever the hell those terms even mean now. Well, you got what you wanted.

A lot of gamers who cut their teeth in the 80s and 90s are now in their 30s and 40s, a lot of them with disposable income. Companies try leeching off that income, games keep trying to ape the Hollywood-style with more over-inflated budgets, some try to make gameplaying a job, some refuse to let go of the happiness in their youths, etc; but growing up also meant having to confront the issues of the day more and more. Now that the internet has become an aqueduct for information from absolutely everyone (not just a focus-group of suburban middle-class kids) stuff like racial tensions, LGBT-rights, feminism have become part of our everyday lives, whether you want them to or not. Gaming grew up, but gamers weren't prepared.


I think I would die, to go back and re-experience the evolution of Minecraft from alpha.


I just get the majority of my games of Xbox game pass and that means I have the freedom to play any game that looks interesting at all and I find a lot of hidden gems and games I wouldn't normally play.


What happened to video games ? The same thing that's happening to movies and music. We are living in a culture in decline.


Y’know I went to EB Games yesterday. Sad to learn almost all games are download only, always online, and single player or mmo.

To sum up this video, Atlas Shrugged. And now the meek shall inherit the company from his rich uncle who only cares about quotas.


My top 5 favorite games,if you do agree emp are:
#1 gta iv
#2 gta sa and nfs mw 05
#3 burnout 3 and nfs ug
#4 bioschok
#5 rdr 2 (story mode)


I blame micro-transactions. They tend to sell unfinished games with little content and expect us to spend tons of money to get them playable. That did work short term but more and more people tire of the practice.  I don't see why I would start playing something that both require me to pay to get the game, pay extra for it to have acceptable content and pay for loot boxes or other crap to be competitive.

I used to game a lot, now it is pretty rare even if I have a good gaming PC. Most of what I play are older games. I started gaming on a C-64, back then there were about 20 good new games coming out each month. It might be unfair to compare that though since development cost have constantly gone up while the number of good new games have gone down.

There is some hope since lately since we seen a few good low budget games with good ideas like among us have become popular. I hope those will kill off micro-transactions for PCs and console games and leave them for the mobile games.


PSN has been pushing some amazing Resident Evil Remakes... Gaming  has seemed to die out very heavily since 2010, while the people in America also seem to be alot duller these days..


Look, Nintendo might release a dud every now and then, but they put out more consistent quality games than any other of the big 3.


I think society has just been becoming more polarised in general with an attitude of us VS them.


I basically only watch people I like play videogames now and I used to consume a prolific amount of video games and consoles for all of the reasons you've listed.
Companies have bandied about banning streaming because it eats their marketshare. If that happens I won't go back to buying video games again. I've found more fulfilment from books. Books are eclipsing video games and movies for me. There I can still get lost in esoteric worlds and experiences with a lot of heart and intelligence coded into them and the theater of the mind renders graphics better than any graphics card.
Movies and video games are dying at the hands of corporatism.

Indie games too often lack satisfactory world crafting because they've got some gameplay gimmick as their tentpoles. Games like the last of us and god of war have yielded truly touching experiences on par with some of the greatest movies, still, only books so far have broken me down as a person completely and reconstructed me.
Video games could get there too and have the potential to go farther but only when the main monetary strategy of video game creators shifts back to "make a good game".


9:56
i feel that, games want money and people forget they are video GAMES and not video sports. team fortress 2 feels like a last bastion of hope, nobody gives a shit about winning some matches just turn into team death match and people just want to have fun. I have met a lot of people playing that game.
new blood is also a cool developer, they make good shit. go look at new bloods shit its good and I like it


I agree with most of the critique given to scummy AAA games, but more than one time during the video I couldn't stop thinking to myself (and sorry for using this stupid word) this is the most "i just want to grill, all games are political now, things were different back then" boomer video I have seen in a while, and it's a great video really.


Except for a few golden nuggets the last decade has been shit, I find myself playing old rpg games and just paradox now and then. Thank God for Tabletop Simulator, now we can make our own tabletop multiplayer games.


love this video, you did a hella good job on it, idk how i feel abt de blob being called shovelware at 10:41 doe :/


Good video, agree with most points, but i should mention that you are contradicting yourself in some bits: "expectations are too high nowdays and people get super hyped about games" "most of us just can't get excited about new games anymore". If something like the hype effect exists today, then how can the second statement be true? Also i feel that he is affected by nostalgia a lot in his arguments. Better watch for that.


Id be mostly fine with games now adays if they weren't 70 to 90 dollars. Doesn't excuse how lazy and money driven companies are now however. Always support indie devs.


Another problem seems to be that violence is monitored in every crumb of entertainment.


"Watching people play video games is ridiculous"

So is sports but I let people enjoy things lol


I'm still here playing shadow of the colossus, dragon quest 8, mass effect, knights of the old republic. Until I see a game out there that grabs my interest similarly I won't be buying much.


In my experience I just do the switch and low to mid end gaming on pc now a days cause it just seems to be the cost effective and fun honestly. And it might just be that (even with Nintendo's bullshit) there's isn't much unneeded bullshit y know. I can just pick up a game and play

I definitely wanna get a baller pc for better triple a games but even then it doesnt seem necessary. Idk I just feel that I'm either cheap or people just be spending too much on shit


Ah yes the obligatory let's say that assassin's creed (2 to unity) had never innovated at all. So there's 2 ways somebody could have this mindset (in my opinion) 1 they've never played any of the games or 2  have played so little and thought that the rest after that point was a consistent downward spiral (wich depending on the ac game is right or  wrong in my opinion) I know this might be coming across as harsh but I've see this kind of attitude a bunch across the years and I'm just getting sick of it.


I mean.. Subnautica, Kingdome Come, Skyrim, Minecraft, League of Legends (the 2014ish release), GTA V, No Man's Sky (post release), Prison Architect, Souls series.. games are still alive and well...


u know, on roblox it's wayy more simple to play with your friends rather then it is on minecraft java, win 10 is equally as easy but with java, you need to get an ip and wait just to play


hey man destiny 1 was an actually fun game, cant say the same for the sequel


I think the early 2010s were one of  the times for games 2010-2013


The only thing on a downward spiral is how scummmy companies act


@EmpLemon you see the truth for what it is and yet you are still an optimist. How do you do it?


This video is timeless it covers everything gamer gate, Gamestonks, game overhyped,


you still gotta understand about the "45%" point, that the majority still prefers the new modern stuff, you still are making good points, but that one just is... bleh.


@Skipman Ghondarg we're in the endgame now

Yeah, we reached barrel's bottom and somehow still going down


I feel apex did a very good job of keeping things under wraps

Apex was still awful even if I agree there, lol.<br>I just wanted Titanfall 3, and now I'm not sure I even want that.

Apex was still awful even if I agree there, lol.
I just wanted Titanfall 3, and now I'm not sure I even want that.


really feel video games have split again some games are amazing and the people who made it knew it was going to be awesome but then you have just shovelware now being sold as a triple A game but also trying to steal your wallet


Back then game companies were motivated to churn out complete games, nowadays theyre motivated to churn them out incomplete.. and then keep dribbling DLC in... but all the while making sure that, no matter how much DLC you buy, the game still feels incomplete... so they can still crank out more DLC.

I completely gave up on AAA gaming and have skipped the last 2 console generations. Theres nothing for me in there.


Well at least new genres are being invented steadily. We had a period of crafting survival games, then Battle Royale, what's next?


i would more likely add a cut off to the 2010's so when 7th gen ended which was 2014. as i'm not giving up new vegas.


And then in 2007 EA released the best Madden game!


There was no hype train for older games? Is this a joke? Smash Brawl had a huge hype train bigger than any other smash game before or sense. I was there for it. They had advertising for games in the 90s and there was E3 magazines and early internet.


They cancelled or halted development in at least three different CONFIRMED versions of Half Life 3 because it just "wasn't" good enough.<br>Instead they chose to release Artifact and a good VR game few people will ever play.

They cancelled or halted development in at least three different CONFIRMED versions of Half Life 3 because it just "wasn't" good enough.
Instead they chose to release Artifact and a good VR game few people will ever play.


Absolutely floored at the Knox claymation reference


Him just mentioning the world "Runescape" made me happy


Sad how we now need to rely on indie games now to get an experience that isn’t as washed out as a shirt you’ve owned for at least 30 years and haven’t stopped wearing. (Except for Nintendo, kind of.)


I feel like games got so worse because all the developer/publisher we used to love got so big they hired buisnessman as their higher ups (or got bought or whatever). They have no clue about games and just say things like "make it look nice",  "i want that", "have it finished by this date because sales expectations are highest there" without knowing or understanding if its good for the game. The bigger a studio gets the worse are the games overall.

i guess what im trying to say is, games need to be made with passion and by people who know waht they are doing and love what they are doing, not by businessman (like amazon tried)

... great now that my worthless opinion is out there i can finally watch it lol


With the current business of games nothing will change until people stop pre-ordering en mass and whales stop dropping thousands into trash games.

I don't see those things changing in a hurry. The time to fight the changes by not buying passed about 7-9 years ago.


A major problem in video game studios is the lack of worker's rights as well.


Companies didn't get better at making games. They got better at monetizing every ounce of them.


Short answer: Yes. Long answer: yes. Meme answer: Always has been.


Greed and over-monetization. Plain and simple. As long as it sells it doesnt matter what the public thinks.


21:14 considering the number of people waiting for it to come out on steam, this is gonna age like shit lol.


The new pay to play style of game everything seems to be in shite, go back to the days of Amiga, mega drive and ps1 ❤


"The simple games of 2000s just don't exist anymore"
Among Us literally becomes the biggest game a few weeks later

"The simple games of 2000s just don't exist anymore"
*Among Us literally becomes the biggest game a few weeks later*


I would 100% give this up to go back to mw2 with the bois


I cannot think of one game out or coming out that I want to play. Maybe I’m done with gaming?


Except the Mario sports games, those are still good most of the time


CORPO'S screwing up, AAA vidyas aren't vidyas anymore. they're investor magnets topped with crunched devs, the compete set! perfect for consumers.


A lot of games have seriously gotten worse.. But also because they were tailored to the masses.. I would rather play Morrowind than skyrim. Despite the fact that skyrim has better graphics and combat mechanics.. It lacks the sense of achievement because enemies level along side of you. And the game is all simplified when it comes to the rpg components. Same goes for games like mass effect.. Where choices in dialog don't matter at all anymore. And just like fallout.. All these games have been changed to serve the masses. Sure they look better.. But they lost dept to reach bigger audiences. They stray away from what made those games great to begin with. What seems to be killing games is how they are tailored to appeal to broad audiences and making the most money possible. Games have been getting worse.. Even if they get better graphically. They are no longer made with passion. The criticism on games is justified.


“Our favorite game franchises of the 2000s may have fallen on hard times...” maybe the new Half life game can finally breath some life back into the industry and make these franchises relevant and fun again


Dear lord that throwback PS4, XBOX720, wii2, WMM default blue screen white text thumbnail screen nearly gave me a nostalgia infused stroke.


Yes. EA was definitely one of the main reasons gaming began to go downhill. It's really nice to see you call them out.


online multiplayer is the only way i can play with a lot of my friends during [redacted] sadly

Parsec and Fightcade have been a big help


The death of local muiltyplayer pains me so much..


I actually first drake image to Sims 2 and second drake image to Sims 3. Sims 2 had split-screen on ps2 and sims 3 was single player on ps3. Also yeah, all those other games are from ps2/xbox/GameCube gen except sims 3...


anyone else find the irony of cyber punk coming out just after this hilarious.


Charging for DLC isn’t that big of an issue


6:35 Minecraft came out in 2008, so it’s a 2000’s game


imaging using games to escape reality but then reality comes into your games

@Puffle Point haha, this reply was in a very convenient time that i had also been talking about how people keep bringing politics into porn, which is another form of escape, i guess no matter where you go to escape reality, reality will just come to you, the only escape from reality i know of that doesn't do this is just smoking a fat blunt


20:19
I don't care about cool graphics.
A fun game is a fun game.
I'm not looking at your amazing realistic grass.


Listing toxic communities... CS:GO, LoL, Overwatch. Compared to Rust, they're the most polite and wholesome saints.


People need to stop "venting" about how systemically shit everything is by arguing over video games and start building what can replace it yesterday.


10:41 Kicking Marge is not the whole game.


madden brought us some of the best games? really?


The Simpsons hit and run needs to get the Rehydrated treatment, I’m mainly saying that because I want to play it on the switch


Midnight club 3 dub edition remix is an absolute banger, recommend anyone play/emulate it.


this is funny cause im listening to this while playing minecraft


that blue guy claymation bit, i havent seen that in years! is that stuff from Newgrounds??? omg if it is....+


I would rather play Super Metroid for the 50th time than play anything from the current gen

Preach brotha 👍<br>I'll play god of war (2005) on my PS2 long before I play something like red dead redemption online

Preach brotha 👍
I'll play god of war (2005) on my PS2 long before I play something like red dead redemption online


It's funny how he completely ignores nintendo


See this is why you just have to pick melee and never play anything else. Sure youll have broken hands but whatever.


Using "Toxic" during the online multiplayer section...I get what you're doing.


How the fuck do I somehow manage to see wings everywhere


AAA games are 12x worse than indie and 12x the price. Ironic.


Dude... mine craft and roblox are not games from the 2010s... I was born in 98 and I played both of those games in elementary school...


Willing to "give up" appstore games and DLC? LOL


1:42 that "Xbox 720" actually looks like the One pretty much.


It's down no excuses,I get bored so easily and I'm never hyped.need another crash


Sorry sir but please never compare Roblox to minecraft ever again, I've been playing roblox for around 11 years now and not once have I made that comparison. Minecraft is just way better than roblox lmfao.


I'm starting to think Emp likes NASCAR.

Just saying.


video games, tv-shows as well as movies. its all going down hill because a postmodern (*cough*Lazy) generation is fucking everything up. granted you will find the odd gem here and there but nowdays the majority is drowning out the good content with low effort works. its a shame really


Calling Roblox and Minecraft even remotely related is just a terrible take.


Bruh, did you just use a Knox clip? My man. Some of the best Newgrounds content ever.


I hereby sacrifice raid shadow legends in trade for old school video game styles. All in favor say I


i haven't played a fifa game since 2004 lol


I guess this is why I prefer PS1 and SNES games.


Did you just put De Blob in the shovel ware category


Is that a midi version of billey Jean? Have my like good sir


The last game I bought was modern warfare 3


Great video, but I feel like most of this only applies to mainstream games. There are plenty of underground or lesser known games that do the job to par, or even better than AAA titles. <br>Anyway, just my opinion. Great vid, monky/ten

Great video, but I feel like most of this only applies to mainstream games. There are plenty of underground or lesser known games that do the job to par, or even better than AAA titles.
Anyway, just my opinion. Great vid, monky/ten


I feel that there are just as many great games that have come out in the 2010s as 2000s but people are more likely to here about all the bad games since the more mainstream times of the internet. It’s kinda like how people say that the 80s and 90s had better movies, but comparing the amount of good movies to bad movie that came out.....for every breakfast club and good will hunting you had 30 other mediocre bad movies coming out around the same time. Nowadays with the internet we always here about the other 30 mediocre games/movies that come out because it’s always right there in our faces when you turn on your computer and open google.


Face it...
there will NEVER EVER be another video game company as hated as EA.

Face it...
there will *NEVER EVER* be another video game company as hated as EA.

@TVB Like I said, I am worried about the Cyberpunk multiplayer monetization. If Rockstar fell with GTA Online, CDR can definitely fall like the rest, so I am VERY, VERY nervous about that, but yes so far they are good.

JJPMB 1 sure I am not denying that there a lot of indie developers who have an absolutely condescending ego and yet bigger devs such as CD Project Red are consistent.

Edit: Wow, my comment about CD Project Red has been outdated as of Dec 2020.

@TVB Yeah, I am sure there is a ton I missed, especially if you start counting smaller developers, you know the egotistical indie developers like the guys who made YIIK. It would almost be easier to just list good developers like CD Project Red, although depending on the multiplayer on cyberpunk could go into the shit list. That and CD Project Black did the Saints Row 2 PC port, a port that made GTA 4 look good.

JJPMB 1 you forgot square enix<br>they ruined thief and tomb raider and released crap like life is strange and the quiet man

JJPMB 1 you forgot square enix
they ruined thief and tomb raider and released crap like life is strange and the quiet man

Epic for that EGS bullshit, which you couldn't pay me to use is another one.

Activision, Ubisoft, Tencent, recent Rockstar(not as much as some), 2K, TakeTwo, and I am sure there are many others.

I don't know... Between now and whenever video game development as a profitable business dies is a loooong time.

EA holding the title of 'most hated video game developer' from now until the death of game development in several hundred years would be impressive though.


Drawn to life and De Blob were good though...


10:40 I’m not going to hate emp for this, but de blob is NOT a shovelware game. It’s one of my favorite games from my childhood. I just wanted to put that out there.

@Some Guy <br>Sonic and The Black Knight is NOT shovelware. It was made FOR THE WII, one of the biggest complaints about the game was how it tried too much to use the Wii's features. So no, it isn't Shovelware.

@Some Guy
Sonic and The Black Knight is NOT shovelware. It was made FOR THE WII, one of the biggest complaints about the game was how it tried too much to use the Wii's features. So no, it isn't Shovelware.

All because you liked a game doesn't make it shovelware.

Laiser No he hasn’t. Probably another one of those people who say all Sonic games suck because YouTubers told him they do

@Staringcorgi6 <br>The worst Sonic games are 06 and Boom, there isn't anything quite on their level of unpolished. But you still haven't answered my question, have you played Sonic and The Black Knight?

@Staringcorgi6
The worst Sonic games are 06 and Boom, there isn't anything quite on their level of unpolished. But you still haven't answered my question, have you played Sonic and The Black Knight?

Staringcorgi6 just let others like what they favor. Even if you see it as incompetent.

@Bird Brain have you heard.of sonic boom

@Staringcorgi6 most sonic games aren't terrible, mediocre to great is usually the standard for games around that time. People just take the piss on it now because they think 06 is the only sonic game

@Staringcorgi6 <br>Have you played the game tho?

@Staringcorgi6
Have you played the game tho?

@EndLaiser it wasn't shovelware but the game was made when sonic had a terrible reputation because of the game we shall not name

@Staringcorgi6 Yeah, but it isn't shovelware. And I quite liked it, have you played it?


I was playing madden while this game came out. My oppenent missed a 4 yard field goal because for some reason if u take a time out with less then 19 second left u can’t see the accuracy meter for a field goal. This concept is based off the NFL practice of icing the kicker where u try to make the kicker feel more pressure and get more stressed. There is no proof that this is actually effective.


6:55 I really expected you to say Terraria......