Why does Pokémon get away with releasing 2 versions of the same game, with the only change being 1 fucking animal?

If they only release one version of a game now people would be pissed

@Visadin Highwind minus the abhorrent microtransactions, ya know that thing that makes madden so awful.

To encourage you to have friends who also played. You should ask why they released third versions. The answer is, morons dont like the game itself, merely their memory of playing blue or red. So people have been buying it less and less every generation. In an attempt to stay in control, pokemon has to rely on these things.

They fucking deleted primarina, one of my favorites pokemons, even if was not good at competitive, some new pokemon are worse and fucking ugly.

Hey, hey, let’s be fair.

It’s 5 Pokémon. 1 legendary, and then 4 normal Pokémon that are exclusive to one version or another for some reason.

@Adora that's exactly what I'm talking about<br>You complained there was a pay wall that was preinstalled already in gen 8 and I said you needed to download it and previous games did this just with a cartrage instead of a pay walk

@Adora that's exactly what I'm talking about
You complained there was a pay wall that was preinstalled already in gen 8 and I said you needed to download it and previous games did this just with a cartrage instead of a pay walk

@Adora it's not 2 pokemon it's usually about 20 including the box legendary and the starters

The amount of people who buy pokemon specifically so they can trade is likely so small its negligible, smaller than competitive battles, and shiney hunters
You buy a game specifically about catching an training your own team specifically so you can catch the pokemon you dont want and have someone just give you the one you do want that's like buying cod so you can design a gun pattern

I like how you pretend pokemon is the innocent party in this and this wasnt their literal intent, I know nostalgia can blind people but let's he real here a company doesnt sell the same product twice unless it gets a significant about of sales increase

I dont see fortnight saying you need to buy their doc but the entire company hinges on that happening, when a company sells you two products that are packaged different the implication is they are different this isn't new marketing its non verbal communication

The only reason the old pokemon were added was because the fans moaned about it so much (then bought it anyway and made it the most well selling game since gen 2)

The pokemon theme and logo has stated "Gotta catch them all" then locks off some of the pokemon to different games but sure they're not trying to get you to buy 2 if you want them and all not like kids are the target demographic or kids pester parents to buy another to get them all and the parent would assume it's a different game, nope no chance of that happening

You've literally been suckered into defending a companies practice that has zero benefit to the customer but youve convinced yourself it has

@Conrad Lorgar there was never any updates to download until gen 8, what are you even talking about dude😂

@Conrad Lorgar your whole argument is based on if 2 Pokémon are essential content. Just because you don’t personally buy the game to trade doesn’t mean other people don’t. Look at how popular poke bank used to be. I dislike the new games, but for actual reasons. It doesn’t make sense to get so salty over something so insignificant as 2 Pokémon missing (that you could easily trade for). If you bought both games then sorry to say but you’re the problem. You’re the one supporting this behavior by letting yourself get duped. I’ve never seen in any advertisement Pokémon implying that you have to buy both games for the full experience, it’s something you made up on your own. About making you buy a product twice, an actual example is the new game, Sword/Shield, not having the full Pokédex at launch and making you buy more Pokémon post release as DLC is far more egregious. 1 Pokémon out of 800 missing is not bad compared to hundreds missing only to be locked behind a paywall.

@Adora I would as most people would rather catch my own pokemon than just be handed them so what does it add?
 Nobody buys the game to trade pokemon and a company doesnt sell the same product twice with minor differences then rename one of them so that they dont sell multiple copies to the same people

 how is that any different than when they would release 2 games at the same time but lock off content to each game for no reason then release the same game but combined with a couple expansions a year later (eg sapphire ruby then emerald)

That's the exact same thing except you used to have to start a new game from scratch to get the extra content

Also what evidence do you have that it was 100% complete and built in on release since a 1gb download doesnt sound like built in content to me

Same shit different method

@Conrad Lorgar no, you don’t have to buy both. Just trade. That’s why they release two games. The problem with Pokémon isn’t that they release two games, it’s that their new games have built in cut content that’s locked behind a paywall, having to pay for a DLC to add content that should’ve already been in game, lazy and uninspired game design overall, and a few other various issues

@Adora thet makes it worse, they sell you two games (used to be 3) at the same time with almost nothing different but lock off content

If you want to complete the pokedex or just use teo pokemon that are in different games you gotta buy both

Because only a few Pokémon are different. Meaning that the content is the same and you don’t have to buy extra, or at least until gen 8

@GooberTheGrand Exactly. Releasing two versions of the game doesn't bother me, trading has been made easier each generation and there is no incentive to buy twice the same game.<br>What bothers me, however, is how little the formula has been renewed since 20 years. Game Freak is overwhelmed a little more with each new release, while the expectations get bigger. A choice should have been made years ago about the game's scope, but they don't have to choose as long as we buy each new unfinished game.

@GooberTheGrand Exactly. Releasing two versions of the game doesn't bother me, trading has been made easier each generation and there is no incentive to buy twice the same game.
What bothers me, however, is how little the formula has been renewed since 20 years. Game Freak is overwhelmed a little more with each new release, while the expectations get bigger. A choice should have been made years ago about the game's scope, but they don't have to choose as long as we buy each new unfinished game.

@Whuddup <br>It's typically 3 to seven different pokemon but it's really not acceptable even considering the differences in the map in later games.

@Whuddup
It's typically 3 to seven different pokemon but it's really not acceptable even considering the differences in the map in later games.

@Fructuous the only tradition they care about is the one that makes money<br>They do it for the same reason EA adds loot boxes Free money for nothing

@Fructuous the only tradition they care about is the one that makes money
They do it for the same reason EA adds loot boxes Free money for nothing

@Fructuous wow this is what brainwashing looks like.

If it was 1 version there's still plenty of incentive to trade, the only version they ever needed to release was the third of each generation, but now that's two games <br>It could only ever be for the money

If it was 1 version there's still plenty of incentive to trade, the only version they ever needed to release was the third of each generation, but now that's two games
It could only ever be for the money

I don't really mind them releasing 2 versions of their games because I think the whole point of it is that you're not supposed to buy both of them. They're not trying to get twice the amount of money from you simply by making you buy the same game twice. I think the point of it is that everyone picks the one they want and then trade with people who chose differently. I think that's a pretty fun gimmick and encourages interacting with your friends. I think that's a big reason why Pokemon got so big when the first games released in the 90s. Everyone was trading with each other and it was fun. I'm more frustrated with the quality of their more recent games than I am with them releasing 2 similar games.

As an old man I can tell you when red blue came out this was not seen as a cash grab at all by anyone I knew. We hadn’t really seen anything like this and no one I knew bought both games cuz u could trade with ppl for the monsters in the other game with the cable at school

Its better then releasing a whole new game like a dlc despite it being mostly the same, in pokemon youre missing out on 1 pokimon

@Visadin Highwind gen 5 was the last true game to innovate because of good animation and then gen 6 had lifeless 3d models

and it has taken pokemon fans until 2019 to realize pokemon is Japanese madden.

Thats wrong because there is a couple of exclusive pokemon but I wish they made the definitive game like in gen 2 3 and 4

I'll See Ya' on the Dark Side of the Moon

Realistic answer is that each game doesn't have all the pokemon (it's not just a different legendary), they each have version exclusives. So for example you've got blue and your friend has red, you instantly have a fun and cool reason to trade with eachother aside just doing it for no reason.

Nowadays with online trades though, cheat codes, moving pokemon from past generations, it definitely feels more unnecessary, and is probably tradition more than anything at this point.

@Cyann literally described the entire pokemon scene in two words, nice.

2 reasons.<br>Hype culture and Nostalgia. And as long as there are people who eat up anything you put in front of them this probably won't change.

2 reasons.
Hype culture and Nostalgia. And as long as there are people who eat up anything you put in front of them this probably won't change.

Pokemon is the biggest brand on earth. At this point they can get away with whatever they want just on brand recognition alone.

The reasom back then was to encourage trading which blossomed into relationships and community which is pretty fucking cool if you ask me. But with online trading all that's been thrown out the window so now it's tradition? I'm sure some kids are getting together because of it so it's not all doom and gloom I guess

THANK YOU. I could never get into pokemon, but these guys release the same mainline game with the only different being 1 pokemon. Sadly some triple A games are getting bigger on this now with dlc's


This is modern: "Back in MY days things were better." In the 2010s I played my favourite games of al time: Skyward Sword, Doom, Wolfenstein II and the Witcher 3.

@StaySkeptic yeah, but you can evade said trends. Yo don't like microtransactions? Don't ever buy an EA sports game. You think DLC gets content hostage? Wait until the game comes out and buy it until you have the full info. (Same goes to broken ass games)

@Frog Glen does...anyone worship it? I thought it was still generally disliked because "bleh, I have to stand up"  and shit. Personally, it's been my favorite Zelda since the moment i played it

It's interesting because back then, people would say Skyward Sword isn't a "true Zelda". Nowadays,  people worship it because of nostalgia

You clearly didn't watch the video. He says no to his own question. He's just explaining why people may feel as though games as a whole are worse.

Agree ussaly l like his videos but this video felt like a boomer conplain and lm 20 so l get his feelings but l think wr got way more awsome games in 2010s like souls series witcher and god of war.


I know it wasn't a main feature of the video or anything, but I just want to voice my opinion about De Blob, one of the games that Emp put in the "shovelware" image.

The biggest flaw of the game was that most of it's gameplay is repetitive, which imo isn't that big of a flaw given how fun that gameplay can be. It's an imaginative, good looking game with good music that is dynamic. I really do mean dynamic, as the music changes based on how much of the level you've painted and what color you are.

Despite being cartoonish and somewhat silly, the game has a legitimately epic feel, with essentially an entire city to explore in every level. There are challenges in every corner which, again, are somewhat repetitive, but it can be fun just running around painting everything.

It is nowhere near as great a game as Arkham City, but I legitimately feel like that is a somewhat appropriate comparison. De Blob isn't open world, but it's individual levels are, and there are secrets in every corner, a variety of enemies to fight, and stories to discover (albeit much less interesting/deep as in Arkham City).

I think it's clear I'm not saying this is some masterpiece, and it's not even a game I return to often. However, this is a game I sunk a lot of time into as a kid and when I do return to it, I find it's still really fun. General audiences and critics seemed to like it as well.

I know you probably just found that image of all the games online and didn't look into each game vigorously or anything, but I just wanted to say how sick this game is.

I think you made pretty good points on de Blob.  A couple of games Emperor Lemon had in his shovelware visual aid didn't seem shovelware bad, especially ones I've played like de Blob.

My guess is that Emperor Lemon just slapped an image he searched for under "shovelware wii games" or "shovelware" and used whatever seemed fitting enough for a basic example.


.... <b>*Enjoyed playing Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Doom 2016, Titanfall 2, Bayonetta, Furi, Hades, Ace Combat, Project Wingman, etc*</b> is that OK? Just making sure because apparently it's not?

.... **Enjoyed playing Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Doom 2016, Titanfall 2, Bayonetta, Furi, Hades, Ace Combat, Project Wingman, etc** is that OK? Just making sure because apparently it's not?


I've got to disagree that games are becoming worse overall. In my opinion, the games made by AAA publishers ARE falling in quality, but Indie games are looking better now than they ever have. Look at Squad, a incredibly fun game that has been incredibly well populated after release.

@E F IDK where you got that idea from... you may want to reread my comment.

So, you're saying you disagree that games are getting worse, while simultaneously conceding that mainstream titles with a majority share in the marketplace are falling in quality?

@Garrett Metting He just said that in the video. Indie games are getting bigger.

@Mallow im not saying that ALL AAA games are bad, just that the standard is dropping a bit, to the point where a only ok game (Jedi Fallen order) seems amazing because it isnt F tier,

Even then there's still plenty of good triple A releases to choose from, but so many people have become far to jaded by their negativity bias to give the good ones a chance. More people seriously need to buy Titanfall 2 for instance. It's the best PvP multiplayer FPS I've ever played.

Yeah I honestly think indie games are in a renaissance of sorts


When Emp talked about critics influencing opinions without playing a game I couldn't help but feel slight relief. I see this a lot with Dunkey's fanbase and how they will jump to praising a game or shitting on it just because of one man's opinion. I've had arguments with my friends about liking Arkham City but because Dunkey said it was bad they hate it. Conversely, they praise Breath of the Wild and hold it to such a godlike standard when I think the game is good, but not the best. Dunkey likes to state his opinions as if they're facts and that creates a big problem when people just blindly follow him because he has such a contrarian, cult-like personality.

Disclaimer, I'm talking about the persona Dunkey puts on screen. IDK if that's actually what he believes, but a lot of people seem to think so and they get influenced nonetheless.

I think a lot of Dunkey's comment section is bandwagonning as a joke because they're just trying to build on the bits that Dunkey did in the video. It doesn't necessarily reflect their real opinions about the games.

Idk, I've seen people criticise dunkey for some of his reviews in the comment section, and I really don't think that he presents his opinions as facts, he just tries to be comedic. I think it's just a general trend recently, where if some personality you like or respect says this or that then you accept it as a fact. I think it extends past video games, to movies and shows and it's quite evident in politics. And Dunkey isn't really a contrarian, he just likes some games and dislikes others, he seems fair enough to me even though I don't always agree with him. It's pretty ridiculous how much people care about others having the same opinions as them, but it is very common to see nowadays.


Mostly just liking this for the Klay World reference


I’m one of the 45%, I’ve grown tired of half baked games with season passes, I enjoy playing my sega genesis more than I would have thought when I was a kid.


rdr2 dismantles a lot of these arguments


2:12 Pulling polls from Twitter isn't great in term of data. For one thing it important to take into account what type of content you make and who you appeal to. Naturally your content is more suited to young adult. So it only makes sense that they would want something  reminiscent of the childhood. That is not to say that the rest of videos faulty but I really hate using Twitter poll lmao.

yeah it really only works when you can tell the people that watch your content are very different from one another. Like Game theory is too general of a channel that there could be children to young adults watching them with them being theories targeting many genres of games and media.

He shouldve done a yt poll as well, since I know many people who dont have twitter.

@ansonx10 I think the current internet age demographic is nostalgic about the 2000s and like to forget about all the controversies and bad games and focus on the good ones and in 10 years I think the same thing will happen with the 2010 video game era and for every Mass Effect: Andromeda, Battlefront 2 and, Fallout 76 there is Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted, and Titanfall

@Crunchy Lettuce Amazing argument lmao. And wild yes it is truth it's a skewed version of truth. Based off of the Myriad of reason I just presented.

They're still people. It's still a poll. Quit clowning and just accept the truth

Well if you polled a wider audience, say a non-video-game-related celebrity's Twitter audience, you'd get a bunch of zoomers that were still in diapers when Midnight Club 3 was on store shelves. A lot of them would probably vote against the 2000s just because they see old games as "bad graphics." And you'd probably also get a lot of boomers that only care about playing Candy Crush type mobile games. I'm definitely not biased, but both of their opinions don't count. :)

9:07  I don't think it impersonal. Granted their some elements that allow disassociate yourself from cussing out a person the same way you would if they were in your present. But categorizing online as a more advanced AI is a gross misrepresentation. How human play is unique to them alone. Do human beings play thought as they clear indication of frustration. When the AI plays great there's a soda Flawless to attach to it that feels entirely unnatural. Plus voice chatting with people definitely liven experience.


I like how u use dunkey as an example of a critic then show videos of people critiquing the last of us 2 which dunkey has made 2 videos exposing why people only hate the game bc they are homophobes


I don't think it's fair to blame the death of local multiplayer on games like minecraft. The brown and grey first person shooter craze that call of duty started played a much bigger role in influencing that space. Everyone was trying to copy cod's success, and so companies were shitting out games with 2-4 hour campaigns and a huge online-multiplayer focus. When these game inevitably flopped, the studios who made them would get shut down, the publishers would lose a few million dollars, then try again next year.

Given how risky this business model is,  it makes sense that games would shift their models towards maintaining a consistent player base who would keep giving you money via dlc/subscriptions/battlepasses/microtransactions/etc.

I actually think this also paved the way for the common politicising of games we see now. WW2 shooters were very popular in the 00s and I think it helped that here you have a game of war but one with more generally agreed upon "good guys" and "bad guys". And often the games that weren't WW2 based tended either to be very unrealistic or were made more as wish fulmilment as being a badass navy seal or something.

Modern gritty war shooters then come along, and based in more modern times (or with factions that were clearly meant to resemble ideals of different cultures). The problem then arises that as soon as you start painting a good and bad side, you are in effect making a political statement. You might not intend on that, and the statement may be one you don't even agree with, but it's there. Art may not be inherently political, but art depicting war with any bias to a side is.

This kind of floated into my head a while ago, after seeing the ridiculous circus surrounding The Division 2 and the publishers desperately downplaying the rather prevalent political themes in the game. There were people pointing them out and getting mad and there were other people getting mad that people were pointing it out at all, declaring "Stop politicising games!"

Thing is, the people politicising the game were the folks at Ubisoft. You can't make a setting that politically charged and then throw up your hands and say its ridiculous that people are criticising the games politics because they're barely there. If this setting and story were in a book it would be obviously political. If they were in a movie it would be obviously political. Just because it's a game, doesn't magically make those themes disappear.

The games industry were the ones who created this problem, IMO.

I actually think this also paved the way for the common politicising of games we see now. WW2 shooters were very popular in the 00s and I think it helped that here you have a game of war but one with more generally agreed upon "good guys" and "bad guys". And often the games that weren't WW2 based tended either to be very unrealistic or were made more as wish fulmilment as being a badass navy seal or something.

Modern gritty war shooters then come along, and based in more modern times (or with factions that were clearly meant to resemble ideals of different cultures). The problem then arises that as soon as you start painting a good and bad side, you are in effect making a political statement. You might not intend on that, and the statement may be one you don't even agree with, but it's there. Art may not be inherently political, but art depicting war with any bias to a side is.

This kind of floated into my head a while ago, after seeing the ridiculous circus surrounding The Division 2 and the publishers desperately downplaying the rather prevalent political themes in the game. There were people pointing them out and getting mad and there were other people getting mad that people were pointing it out at all, declaring "Stop politicising games!"

Thing is, the people politicising the game were the folks at Ubisoft. You can't make a setting *that* politically charged and then throw up your hands and say its ridiculous that people are criticising the games politics because they're barely there. If this setting and story were in a book it would be obviously political. If they were in a movie it would be obviously political. Just because it's a game, doesn't magically make those themes disappear.

The games industry were the ones who created this problem, IMO.


i didnt think anyone else remembered klay world.


I feel like what's gotten really good ha s been indie games, as the huge corporation lose touch the small people making games out of love and passion shines through more than ever


I see those kitty0706 Garry’s mod clips. My heart now hurts.


Emp: Talks almost exclusively of football, soccer, NASCAR, and basketball when mentioning sports games
Hockey fans: :(

Emp: *Talks almost exclusively of football, soccer, NASCAR, and basketball when mentioning sports games*
Hockey fans: :(

Who needs nhl when you have blades of steel?

NHL is bad but isn't anywhere near the horrible levels of Madden. Madden has actively LOST features every time it jumps a console generation


What exactly is the “anime genre”? It’s just a style of animation. An anime game can literally be anything including action, RPG, puzzle, racing, shooter, visual novel, etc. What exactly are you talking about when you say “anime genre”?

@Smug Anime Girl
I mean-
Well-
I-
That’s, so incredibly, unarguably incorrect for no particular reason and yet I can’t help but agree and I hate it

It's a boomer thing, it's like grandmas calling every kind of console a "Nintendo".

The anime genre is anything with anime girls in it. That's all. That is their entire desire.

@Arthur Atanazio also, because that’s what’s japans into

@Arthur Atanazio
Ah, no, im a weeb, I haven’t gotten quite that far into degenerate culture

@Arthur Atanazio
Ah, no, im a weeb, I haven’t gotten _quite_ that far into degenerate culture

@Dongledoor Applying blanket statements like that does nothing to help your argument, either provide a good counterpoint or screw off.

@Arthur Atanazio Again, you’re making the same simple mistake as that other guy, you think that genre differences in games are the same as genre differences in shows. Read my long replies to that other guy if you want a detailed explanation

@Cloudy If Harvest Moon is an anime genre because is Japanese is the same that say Re and Silent Hill are also<br>Aswell as Super Marion and etc. Simply none of this game were made to the Otaku Public

@Cloudy If Harvest Moon is an anime genre because is Japanese is the same that say Re and Silent Hill are also
Aswell as Super Marion and etc. Simply none of this game were made to the Otaku Public

@Cloudy Well, saying anime is not a genre based in a simulator and Rpg Just because they're Japanese is not exactly smart<br>Meanwhile because Harvest Moon doesn't have the "formal" anime style

@Cloudy Well, saying anime is not a genre based in a simulator and Rpg Just because they're Japanese is not exactly smart
Meanwhile because Harvest Moon doesn't have the "formal" anime style

@Methos hes talking about how every animerelated game has been ruined for him just because of yandere simulator

@Jacen Solo You’re missing the point. If you were just talking about anime as in anime shows or movies, then yes, you’d have a point. In fact that’s why people classify all different kinds of anime under the same umbrella. The problem is we’re talking about GAMES. Shows are classified by their general writing style and tropes, games are classified by, you know, their gameplay. Yes, I am serious about asking what’s so similar about those three games. Because one look at any of them from a gameplay perspective should tell you that they’re entirely different types of games despite having a similar artstyle.

Another problem with your argument is that you’re using the literal definition of anime that it’s any form of Japanese animation. Grouping such a vast amount of series under the same group because they happen to share a few common cultural elements is just ridiculous because it undermines everything that differentiates them. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Persona, a dungeon crawler and high school social sim game, is in any tangible way similar to Resident Evil, a survival-horror game with constant tension, unless you try to force some bullshit “anime genre” thing to group them together.

Bottom line, anime isn’t some genre where you can group together completely unrelated games because they’re animated and end up having some similar tropes because they’re made by the same country. That kind of mentality is closed-minded and stupid, and it also doesn’t even make sense as EmpLemon has clearly played many Japanese games yet says that he’s never played an anime game. Nobody else, not even the uploader of one of the most closed-minded and biased video essays I’ve ever watched, agrees with your insane logic.

@IceBlueLugia No, it comes down to tropes. I've played plenty of Japanese games and I've yet to encounter a single one that didn't fall into the common tropes that you find so commonplace in anime. Although I am aware that there are Japanese games that are not animeish.

There are other countries that have made films and games that use the same art style but the tropes that appear are completely different, largely due to cultural influences, and so I wouldn't call those anime.

I've never played Puyo Puyo but from the looks of it from a cursory look online I wouldn't classify it as anime.

Meanwhile are you serious about asking what things like DBZ, Persona and Fire Emblem have in common? Their entire skeleton is built upon the tropes you commonly find together in anime.

EDIT: And yes I do classify MGS and Resident Evil as anime. Meanwhile I wouldn't classify something like Ergo Proxy as anime.

@Jacen Solo So, in the end, it comes down to artstyle. Because tell me, aside from artstyle, what do Dragon Ball FighterZ, Persona, Puyo Puyo, Fire Emblem, and Danganronpa have in common besides a similar artstyle? The same tropes? I think I get what you’re trying to say, because most animes do have some similarities in writing style and they tend to include quite a bit of fanservice. However it really doesn’t make much sense in terms of games; Puyo Puyo barely even has a story, and the vast amount of elements seen in different JRPGs and visual novels can’t be bunched into a set of tropes. Artstyle is not enough to define a set of games.

Most Japanese made games are high-fantasy and unrealistic, except for some stuff like Resident Evil and MGS; would that kind of thing be enough to group all those types of game into the same category just because they share a few common factors?

@Bird Brain Imo the tropes that these shows and games all share, not the art style, is what defines them and makes them part of the same genre.

Anime genre is a collective of film, shows and games that share a commonly held set of tropes among them. There are rare exceptions that do not fit into said tropes and I'd argue the ones that don't fit into said tropes aren't really anime, they're just Japanese animation.

@Methos honestly tho. Dude has this weird superiority complex

@Methos I think it was obvious he was gonna say some shit like that once he started foaming at the mouth over a racing game

@Mr. Friendship Lol technically it's not even a "form" of animation, but rather just the japanese word for "animation", only in the west can we manage to make things like this happen

It's not limited to anime though. Animation as a whole has long been viewed as a single genre across the world.

AHA, PeRsOnA aNd HaRvEsT MoOn ArE sO sImIlAr

Very true statement<br>People would call, fire emblem and puyo puyo "anime" but they play completely differently, people dont wanna play these games just because of their looks when it comes down to it because the style seems to carry a stigma with it.

Very true statement
People would call, fire emblem and puyo puyo "anime" but they play completely differently, people dont wanna play these games just because of their looks when it comes down to it because the style seems to carry a stigma with it.

Methos
As a weeb, I ask you to follow the weeb rules.

We don’t talk about yandere simulator

Methos
As a weeb, I ask you to follow the weeb rules.

*We don’t talk about yandere simulator*

It's a thing people often do, they write off a piece of media due to the art style. Like how certain games are for kids or that games like Yandere Simulator are anime/weeb. It shows that Lemon is about as shallow in his opinions as the very people he complains about. How ironic lmao.

It is a “genre” but only barely and only in television, certainly not in games.

Anime isn't even a genre. It's a form of animation. That makes Hayao Miyazaki disappointed.


Bro they were, but there poppin out some bangers now adays


Super mario party.

just gonna leave this here.


I feel like the gaming community itself definitely deserves some of the blame for how the game industry has gone downhill


Just play more indie and japanese games.


I think that emp is being incredibly reductive here. Most of the issues he has with gaming is the same as the “le wrong generation” thing we get in music. Games haven’t been getting worse just like music hasn’t. Once you get under the mainstream surface, there are a lot of really great titles that have just as much content as he says older games do. Katana zero, enter the gungeon, cross code, ori, and Celeste are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Let’s not forget that Minecraft was an indie game at one point too

A lot of these are 2D, side scrolling games. I’m looking for some decent 3D games to play. I love multiplayer shooters like Halo and TF2, and it’s nice that they’re there but there’s nothing quite like those games anymore. A lot of the 3D shooter space has gone to big-scale games like Battlefield, Apex Legends, and Fortnite.

Also there be no 3D Stealth games anymore rip

@Brachydios There's plenty of good metal outfits kicking around

@Doom58 You gotta find new IP's then. I mentioned Katana Zero in my original comment. That came out last year and it is one of my favorite games of all time now. If you're into multiplayer, trying what your friends are playing is a great option too. IP's and franchises don't last forever so it's good to branch out now and then

@BoatHouse I can't find any that I like at all my favorite ip's are dead or turned to shit or are completely different than the previous games and the new ip's are so drastically different that I can't find myself playing them at all.

@Doom58 what do you suppose we do? Good games are still able to be found by players and become successful so I don't really see a problem here. There are a lot of problems with the game industry, but finding games that are fun is definitely not one of them

and people use this as an excuse for the bullshit in the current state of music/video games, something needs to be done

@Breadstick Boss Just because someone ranks it highly to appeal to the masses doesn't mean people will remember him. His music is extremely forgetable and lacks any creativity or personality. his music is derivative and bland, the epitome of the downfall and sterilization of pop music. Anyone who thinks he has any right to be compared to David Bowie, Michael Jackson or Freddy Mercury is out of their mind.

Hell, I already forget he even exists on a daily basis, because his music blends in so much with all the other bland stuff on the radio that I can hardly even tell the musicians apart anymore. None of them have any unique styles or voices. I am probably hearing Kanye constantly in grocery stores, but If I am I can't even tell.

Call of Duty is one of the most influential Game Series ever, and is ranked highly by most review sites and magazines, does that mean the games are good or will be remembered in a fond way? I don't think so.

@David Lewis hell yeah. that game looks fucking great. I've been thinking about picking it up for a while

MateAndMead Kanye will 100% be remembered in 20 years. He is one of the most influential musicians ever and has one of the best discographies ever. Albums like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and To Pimp a Butterfly are in Rolling Stones top 20 albums ever and came out this decade. Music evolves over time and the bad things get filtered out while the things people want to hear get amplified.

have you ever heard of the game "baba is you"?

i think game companies has been worse like Nintendo out of touch practices like p2p online which is laggy af

@Breadstick Boss I would disagree. There's a lot less memorable musicians nowadays. Sure you can talk about Kanye and Ed Sheeran all you want but in 10-20 years no one is going to remembe rthem, unlike Michael Jackson, Metallica, Queen etc.

I'm glad Avenged Sevenfold exists, without them I wouldn't be listening to music at all anymore.

Dreadking Rathalos no it hasn’t, music has 100% gotten better over time

@BoatHouse my point isnt an aversion to watching a video. I simply want YOU to defend your point, not parrot someone else's talking points.

@Brachydios Having a music degree doesn't make you right lol. Perhaps if you had a degree in statistics or a background in research, you'd know that any study that uses the million song dataset (which I almost guarantee that yours does) is inherently flawed due to the fact that it uses CLASSICS from decades ago vs current day HITS (which are 2 very different things). There were just as many horrible hits from the 20's to the 90's that don't make it on that data set because people hardly remember them. It's survivorship bias at its finest.

Sorry you don't want to watch the video. It's a great watch and explains a lot about musical complexity that was actually missed by the study. It's actually made by a composer who later became a head developer at Musescore. Your loss I guess. I was pointing you to it because I wasn't going to have a long discussion about music in the comments section of a gaming video

My issue with games is they have gotten repetitive at the triple a level, but indie is thriving and doing wonderful imo

The industry has gotten worse because it became an industry in the first place. Money and sales drives the mainstream market, not creativity or even competence.

@Brachydios Complexity doesn't equal quality, and you can find complex music if you look hard enough.

Games have literally become objectively worse quality, bug, polish, content and creativity wise. That's just a fact. There's still tons of great games, but most of them are indie. Most of my favorite games of all time came out in the 2010s, blike Bloodborne, Nioh, Metal Gear solid V and Monster Hunter World but even I agree that before 2010 many many big budget games felt more like games and less like shat out, soulless products. Nowadays you're lucky if you get one single notable game a year that's not another PvP Shooter or streamer bait.

So no, games haven't become WORSE overall, there are still great great games, but the amount of good non-indie games has drastically lowered. And you know it has when the first thing people think when a sequel is announced is "well, this is gonna be a trainwreck isn't it"

It seems that nowadays, publishers prefer throwing money at a game rather than throwing time and care at a game. And it's very, very noticable, compared to pre-2010 where it was less noticable.

Money doesn't create art, but that's capitalism for ya.

@BoatHouse I'm not interested in some zoomer youtuber debunking anything, YOU argue why music hasn't gotten worse. I have a music degree, and I can tell you the shit being astroturfed now is god awful. It wasn't exactly great 10 years ago but it at least required a little bit of talent.

@Brachydios Lol I've heard this argument before. tantacrul did a great video debunking the study that you are probably referring to here. There is literally no possible way that music has gotten worse when the ability to create music is more available to people than it ever was in history. Just dig a bit and you'll find great stuff

@Pokemonprimed What I'm getting at is that the mainstream of just about anything is not going to have the same appeal as the niche equivalent as time goes on. For a long time, the "mainstream" of gaming was still a niche and catered specifically to its audience. Now that audience has grown large enough that high profit demographics can be selected for, other demographics need to look elsewhere for the experience that they want to have. It's not even that those people don't either. Games like Among us, Shovel Knight, and even Fortnite skyrocketed to popularity because people are still seeking those experiences out. I think that the shift in focus from mainstream to indie creators is just a natural progression of any medium as it gains popularity outside its niche

@Griggori rasputin no, it is literally objectively worse. You can measure melodic complexity, and it's gotten way simpler in the past decade. Lyrics are constantly getting simpler as well. A few decades ago songs had lyrics with a middle school reading level, now they are so simple most 1st graders can read them. Look it up.

Dreadking Rathalos Literally every single type of music in the world is now accessible from your pocket, and although you’re probably talking about mainstream music it’s still your opinion that it’s worse not a objective fact.

Dreadking Rathalos Metal Gear Rising Revengeance and DMC 5

Music has objectively gotten worse though

And there are some pretty damn good mainstream games too, ghost of tsushima, doom 2016 and eternal, god of war, titanfall 2, mortal kombat 9,10 and 11 as well as both injustice games, killer instinct amongst others.

Even if there are shitty games, that does not mean the whole industry is going to hell.

But he specifically mentions successful, lower budget indie games. Hell, Celeste is one of the ones shown on screen. I think this is more targeting the "mainstream" gaming industry which has largely collapsed compared to before, because back in the 2000s, even the mainstream industry was something to get excited about.


Me: "Back in my days video games were better"
"But wasn't Everlasting Summer good, too?"
Me: proceeds to cry

Me: "Back in my days video games were better"
"But wasn't Everlasting Summer good, too?"
Me: *proceeds to cry*


Bad and average games, have always existed. It's just that the genre is more popular and people of this generation are more exposed to bad stuff, than the older generations. The rise of the independent reviewers has painted the gaming genre as dying and unoriginal, despite the fact that unique games like fall guys, among us and many more are being made.

Among us is Town of Salem but dumbed down and worse in every way. Anyone who can walk around the map and do the boring uninspired tasks for more than 5 minutes probably enjoys watching paint dry in their spare time.

Unique games like fall guys and among us

Gmod TTT and minecraft minigames: bottom text

Fall guys is actually just a minecraft minigames reskins which are mario party inspired and some reskins while also being Takeshis Castle esque, it's just a recolor to make money and Among Us is just Town of Salem or Wulfs among us reskin, just with a little touch of Stephen Kings "The Thing".

among us isn't original at all. its just a deception game packaged in a cuter format. similar to how fortnite was an easier artstyle than the previous king pubg that lent itself to being adopted by droves of children


13:50 soak in the last we will ever see of Political Juice. The fact he used he got permission to use the illustrations proves Emp is based.


Forget Western AAA games,go to indie and Japanese games.<br>That's where they make,games for games sake,even if sometimes they drop the ball.

Forget Western AAA games,go to indie and Japanese games.
That's where they make,games for games sake,even if sometimes they drop the ball.


18:39 Yandere Sim is the only game in the genre we know because Yanderedev tries his hardest to make sure he's making the only game in the genre. He's constantly threatening any possible competition because he doesn't want to lose the fans who pay him to someone who can actually fulfill his promises better than he can.


I'm surprised that you didn't mention the infamous "you think you do but you don't" comment in the "gamers don't know what they want" section. The comment (which was made in response to someone asking about making official vanilla Workd of Warcraft servers) was initially mocked because there were 3rd party servers that were very popular at the time. Nowadays after community itself drove the game into the ground (not without help from Blizzard ofc), many people agree with that comment as many people thought they did, but didn't.


But mario cart DS and 7 both had online multiplayer And local play

mario kart is one of the few major games left insisting on keeping local multiplayer alive


Man I love this channel it’s so cool seeing an OG like EmpLemon and their growth as a creator


My advice? Stop buying shitty games and you'll stop having a shitty time. Complicated, I know.


those are the reason why I think games are in downward spiral :

-loss of focus and lack of identity .

-games are niche market within niche  . aka : gaming so big that there is those sup community that not small .

-Trends that overstayed welcome .

-similar feelings of game what resulted in fatigue .

-big companies play it too safe instead of pushing the media forward . like it or hate it . VR became more relevant after few big companies invested in that market .

this why like 85-90% of games I buy are mid market and Indie . they niche and provide something I crave and not milk toast of the mainstream  gaming industry that push every year .

here is list of nice game I got the past few years that I really like if you interested :

-Black Mesa

 (and any half life game or Valve game that not Dota 2 or csgo

)

-Katana ZERO

-Deep Rock Galactic

-RUINER

-Furi

-SYNTHETIK: Legion Rising

-HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed

-Pathologic 2

-Breathedge

-ECHO

-They Are Billions

-CrossCode

-Enter the Gungeon

-Bad North: Jotunn Edition

-Infectonator 3: Apocalypse

-The Henry Stickmin Collection

-The Swords of Ditto: Mormo's Curse

-Lobotomy Corporation | Monster Management Simulation

-Warhammer: Vermintide 2

-TABS

reposting my comment because YT deleted it for some reason .

@Shelkton See?

You're so obssesed with the idea of hivemind that you take someone joking about your pointless need to insult people, in your otherwise valid arguement, as another enemy.

What you are doing is still not an arguement either nor an invalidation of what I've been saying. I betcha' that if youtube would allow you to, you would post an image as a response and do nothing else.

You didn't answer but now you don't need to. Yes, things aren't okay at home.

@Ivan Marquez "Brooo you're overaggressive brooo you're oversimplifying the problem!" <br>Okay hive bot

@Ivan Marquez "Brooo you're overaggressive brooo you're oversimplifying the problem!"
Okay hive bot

@Shelkton You don't seem to understand.

One thing is having an opinion, one thing is expressing your ideas in the way you just did. Unnecessarily aggressive and oversimplifying big concepts.

I did not say anything about your freedom of speech, I was just there to joke about your overall tone of the arguement.

@Shelkton don't worry about it bro :) . elitist mentality either side halp no one. Other then stopping you from getting something you may enjoy.

@Cool Ss I misread your comment and I thought you were one of those people that blindly hate on the mainstream while religiously worshipping "niche" games.

@Shelkton Every one with their own personal preference. What I like. You may dislike. I know not all of them are niche. The point what I was try to make. Is to look out for good game and not just go for it just because it look good. I fail to understand that I am part of the "problem".

I do get AAA game when they are good. You don't see me hating on titanfall. I like that game.

@Ivan Marquez Sorry I had an opinion. I will stop going against the hivemind now.

@Shelkton Everything all right at home, honey?

Literally half of those aren't really niche and if you really base your preference around something being niche then you are a joke and directly contribute to the problems that plague modern gaming. Literally nothing put out by bigger corps will please people like you so they don't even try therefore the market just panders do surface level consumers. However, once those games you play reach surface level gaming and the company that made them get big you will instantly back peddle and look around for some other copy-paste "niche" indie pixel shit shooter or some small studio hunk of junk.

Cool Ss there are definitely problems with the game, but once you get past that and get into a match with your friends it’s so fucking fun

@Nihar Mulpuri I remember considering the first game as the l4d3 . 2 is sooo good . I wish they add all the maps form the first game to 2 tho . (I know you need to pay DLC to get 3 maps from the first game - w - . god I wish also the game was more optimized and less buggy) regardless . still really fun game .

also I hope Warhammer 40,000: Darktide be even better .I am looking forward to it since it was announced

Same here, especially crosscode and black mesa


I don't even consider myself a gamer. Look at my Steam hours for the last 5 months or so, and there's like 400 hours dedicated to literally 3 games. I play Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizione, and F1 2020. I just feel like the gaming community is so toxic, including the sim racing community. I just keep everyone muted and do my own thing. It's so sickening that I don't want to communicate with any other gamers.

I want to get into the sim racing community. Do you think steam is a good place to start. thanks


I disagree strongly with the first part of the video


7:58 Stop it. you're gonna make me cry emplemon...Some of my greatest experiences were on the bus with our DS's as well. It became such a problem that the school ended up banning DS's in particular, but that didn't stop us. And especially not me. While we would get caught from time to time we still played our DS's. Nintendo needs to find a way to make that spark again..With a new handheld system. Not to mention this was the era of flipnotes. I'm not gonna lie one of my favorite things in the world to this day is a pair of inexplicable hairy testicles flying into the mouth of a shittily drawn character who said "MmMmMmmMmMMm OmNoNoMnOmnonMoNom"

@Pokémaniac Guquiz They were banned on busses and school. Their excuse was that it was distracting.

Wait, why would they ban the DS on busses?


Destiny is kino no matter what anyone says


I like the klomp blomp hoiying music you featured in your video.

Are you an angel?


Argument invalid

Neo The World Ends With You is a masterpiece and a really good sequel to the original game


Video games aren't fun because you're an adult


1:20  I've heard that song before but can't remember what it was from


The real problem is people who preorder garbage games, like ciberpunk or fifa or the last pokemon. Please, just wait, see some gameplay in youtube or something and then decide. I bet you have a lot of unfinished excellent games you havent finished.


If a game has a low rating of below 8 I don't buy them. Look at Hollywood can't make good movies any more.


You think NASCAR’s in bad shape? Look at Monster Truck games since 2011’s Monster Jam Path Of Destruction <b>sobs uncontrollably</b>

You think NASCAR’s in bad shape? Look at Monster Truck games since 2011’s Monster Jam Path Of Destruction *sobs uncontrollably*


When you started listing all of the next gen tech and features, I started realizing just how unfun the gaming world has become. Half the time, it produces cool, fun and unique ideas that feels like it was made by a fellow human being. The other half feels bland, rushed, and empty. So many games just feel and honesty look the same. It feels like more of a product then entertainment, and sometimes it feels like they're not trying all that hard to be different. They're just making things. Yeah, McDonald's sells Big Macs and Burger King sells whoppers...but it's starting to feel like it's "all just burgers." I guess that "choice" you have is left up to which company you're most dedicated to. Bleh.


This is why I love indie games. You get a much better game for <$40


I did a school project like this and made some of the same points you did, this video just made me realize that I helped most of my friends at school learn because I learned something too.


I've noticed that Indie games have been improving a hell of a lot better than your "popular" FPS/Sport/MMO games


This is why indie games and unconvential genres are some of the things that keep in gaming


this hurts a lot

in some way, I always was dreaming to be a game developer or designer but as years went on each game company embroil itself in greed and to see who can be the biggest greedier of all

Konami: went to make decent and lovable games to a pachinko cash-grabbing bastard

EA: went to make an ok game to infuriating cash-grabbing titles.

Activision: went to caring on amount of detail and stories to pretty much the same EA did with pay to win loot boxes.

Blizzard is like the sidekick of Activision, which did and follow the footsteps of the other.

Nintendo: Went to the memorized company delivering what people liked and enjoy to pretty much an angry child if they catch you making similar stuff they did and stomps into fans.

Squere Enix: Went to make some great games back in the game to just half of them being on mobiles and most of them to be a cash-grabbing scheme

Valve: Went to make some amazing games, listening to people and caring to pretty much not even caring anymore.

Dice and Respawn: caring about gaming bugs and glitches to then letting EA influencing them, same with 2k

Biowere: Went to make great production gaming quality to be just the shadow of EA

Rare: Went to make great games for Nintendo to bust just something most not even remembers them what they were good at anymore.

Bungie: Went from caring for character stories and depth to just what Activision is doing minus the pay to win bs.

343: Does whatever they want and hardly listens to others suggestions.

Epic Games: they went to making characters and collabing with others to make games look great to just to collab to gain money.

and I am pretty sure there are others who do pretty much the same as the AAA companies who made these cash-grabbing money.


Here is how to hit the spot again (just some recommendations nothing special):

Not too much of an interest in the megabucks and fortune.
Create a comfortable environment for repetition and grinding.
Care about the development, and within a reasonable time make a game that appeals to a large audience and good enough replay value.
Also care about the valuable things like music, ambience, sound effects, level design, artistic direction, camera and not so complex HUD and UI.
Make a distinct separation in gameplays for solo, coop, competitive and/or party players.
Do not add filler gameplay just to extend that gameplay when there is not really any content actually there.
Make sure that people can see that there is progress or some form of details that inform the players that they're doing something important.
Try to avoid making players forced to spend real life money or spending their time in a limited and very valuable staying for some item(s).
Try to keep people's interest and take all the comments and criticism to help the community fit their helpful needs or know what you're doing.
Keep things fair and balanced to new players or keep out glitches that ruin the immersion and experience.
Of course keep hackers banned and make a system that could show them exposed (this one's harder, but Overwatch and Rainbow did well for it).
References are completely fine, but they shouldn't be the main thing the video game is based about.

Personal Note: I'm nothing special, just some random commenter on the internet, also keep your opinions out of drama but feel free to share them here. Also I could be completely wrong about everything above as again I'm just some random commenter typing at 2 AM. The point of me writing this comment was to just say some words and whoever reads it could agree or disagree, nothing much. I love most games and soundtracks, but I do have a slight urge to keep going back and playing games like Illusion of Gaia, Gauntlet Dark Legacy, Dynasty Warriors 3, Mojo! or even Super Stardust HD.

My opinions and statements could all be false, but just speaking about the topic. Thanks for reading and god bless your soul. <3


Yep. Everyday I look back on ps2 days with extreme fondness and I would easily give up my ps4 and even ps3 just to have those experiences back.

@Lil_Ninja nothing compared to my ps2 though

But PS3 was a amazing console and the games were really great!


For me I felt like Call of  duties came out and they’re so fun and then released Fortnite which just made it where people want to be so good at the game and really boosted streamers and Youtubers and made people play games less casual and more competitive and then came Apex warzone for me those are the main games I played and I feel like it got really good really fast and just you don’t feel that energy anymore you feel that win energy just you don’t it’s not that fun anymore and I don’t know if it’s gaming or just new games haven’t been able came out and reached a potential that’s better and could have I don’t know.


I agree, but there are some good triple a games that you probably already know about, but there's also some really good indie games. Ape out, baba is you, hollow knight, subnautica, outer wilds, what remains of edith finch, kentucky route zero, my friend pedro, dead cells, enter the gungeon, and axiom verge are all great games.


i agree...
its funny cause i talk about this with my friends often...
i grew up in th 90s when games were still fun...i miss couch and local multiplayer...
no wonder more and more people are playing emulators nowdays...like me...


Part of it to me is games just have lost heart. I bought Bully on steam to play it again and It still held up. There was a lot of heart put into all the parts of it that you can feel. It's not necessarily a concrete idea but it's something that you just.... I dunno gotta feel?


Probably the most fun i’ve had with a movement shooter from 2016 would be titanfall 2


The last time I was legitimately hyped for a game was when BFBB Rehydrated was announced.


I watch reviews and wait for a game to be released before i buy. Im sick of unwanted changes to classics. I hate paying 65 bucks for glitchy broken games.


I think Graphics have also stagnated. Games like NFS Hot Pursuit from 2010 still look phenomenal today, both a commandment of the people who made the game and an incitement of the lack of progression.


question- what is your opinion on Yahtzee's zero punctuation series? very often negative game reviews, but they clearly come from someone who sees video games as an artform that deserves to be respected than in the interest of chasing algorithms


I love how you chose music from Pokémon Battle Revolution, as that was the last 3D Pokémon game I was excited for.


It is incredible how much people either misunderstood the video, or straight up didn't watch it before commenting.

It's like watching start ship troopers and 1984 misunderstood criticism all over again. Not sure if that gives extra points to you or subtract from the rest of humanity.


If there is one thing I miss is LAN parties. I agree with the fact that devs don't give a toss about local multiplayer these days. I miss UT2004 (aka the best FPS ever made). However I don't miss stuff like the seventh generation and everything birthed by that.
Don't get me wrong, the gaming landscape was awesome back in the late 90s and early to mid-2000s, but I genuinely believe we are living in better times. There has never been a level of compatibility and accessibility compared to what we have right now, and that's amazing. Initiatives like GOG releasing DRM-free games are also great, and AA games are somewhat making a comeback. There has never been a better time for emulation as well, lots of breakthroughs.
If there was a time we could consider as a "dark age", a true downward spiral of gaming, then look back at the seventh generation with the on-disc DLC bullshit, kinect, ridiculous "reboots" to appeal to casual and wider audiences, and everything else. Sure, a lot of the shit that came about in that era is still around today, but at least people are more aware, and besides, that stuff is only prevalent if you exclusively look at the western AAA market.
So yeah, if all you're looking at is Activision and EA, of course shit's always gonna look bad. But personally, as someone who has been playing games since 1993, I've seen much worse than what we have now.
Just try to branch out, broaden your horizons a bit. And if the day comes where all modern gaming truly goes to shit, with streaming and whatnot, I'll just go back to the massive backlog of old games I have, which is more than I have time to play.


Your point about toxic multiplayer you gotta take into account the great local Lan play creator, from kitchen tables to a voice call


I played demolition Derby on the PS1 in a friend's house, when I got the PS2 years later I asked my father to get me a game that had crashes and NASCAR like vehicles ecause I didn't remember the name.

He got me this.

It's not only the worst video game I have played, it's the only game I dropped on the same day and felt bad for the money spent.

Today you tell me it's the best NASCAR game??? I do not wanna know about the others.


I like to come back to this video every few months only to agree even more


The mid 2000s was the boom of Sports games.


The Baseline for Triple A games have been downhill. But the industry as a whole is still fine. Just takes a bit more digging to find something is all.


When Pokémon GO first came out there was only one gen for like a year, and the meta at 5hat time was to own a Nedoking. So I trained my nedoran and only needed a few more candies and I would complete it the next day. My sister logged on and gave all the candies I had been saving to a crappy Pokémon she just caught and I did not want to grind anymore so I quit playing.


It's funny that some of the best recent games started their lives in the 90's (Resident Evil 2 Remake, Doom 2016/Eternal, Half Life: Alyx)


Simply put, games are too corporate. AAA studios don’t put any love or heart into their games. They’re more concerned with making something that looks cool and sells out on day 1 than they are making a lasting impact on games and doing something creative, original, and fun with a creative medium as young as videogames. It’s shameful that this is happening so early into the development of the art form.


So glad I grew up with nes/snes/n64/doom 🥰

N64 games were trash. Source: I owned an n64

I was introduced to video games at the PS1 Era


The video raises interesting points, but I regret that the argument is sadly rooted in nostalgia and "back-in-my-day"isms... Which, in my humble opinon, doesn't give enough facts to make a balanced argument about the situation of videogames. I'm glad we have the choice today of what we would like to play, and that there are gems worth it in the huge sea of games available today.

You want evidence ok look at the greatest games of all times list compare it to 2010- 2020 or look at the highest rated games when did they come out that’s right 2000s


On a binge to watch all your videos still not disappointed bro


idk if the pokemon go thing was a joke but it honestly is the most fun i've had with a game in ages. i still play it every day :)


Aeiou I’ve made the decision that this is probably my second favorite commentary/video essay channel for the time.


Problem with local multiplayer: I don't have friends IRL, and if I did, I'd probably want the convince of online play anyway

There's a solution that can allow for both. The ability to create a private server a la Minecraft. You can play with people all over in large, open servers. You can play with your friends on a private one. And you can go back and forth at your leisure.


That was an absolutely amazing clay world reference however bad move you your part because now I’m gunna go binge watch that instead of this. No offense.


This video screams “golden age of gaming”


On ramdom online stranger vs local that's why a good compromise i guess are servers<br>There's little communites  that form in these, and you start to know the 'locals', even in fps like Battlefield 3 which is not where you would expect that

On ramdom online stranger vs local that's why a good compromise i guess are servers
There's little communites  that form in these, and you start to know the 'locals', even in fps like Battlefield 3 which is not where you would expect that


This video seems to be infinitely relevant for whatever 'big new thing' is coming out.


you gotta love when a gaming video goes anti-sjw. i was really enjoying it so far too gdi


Bro.. i commented a lot already but i will say it again. You improve my live. In 2 days your videos maybe me reconsider SO many things.

You probably didnt intend to, but you make me a better person '-'


Honestly, I think that a lot of the opinions people have about the "general nature" of the gaming industry is full of bias.

Why can you name so many more boring and uninspired games released in the lat 2010's compared to the early 2000's? Because they were released recently and everybody tends to remember things that happened recently. Mediocre games have existed for as long as games have existed.

Every period of time has those who think the past was better. There were people complaining that the advent of paper was dulling student's ability to keep a slate clean. Every single generation is going to have nostalgia for the past, and is going to think the future is being fucked up.

The only thing really "different" about the games from a fundamental point of view is the size of the teams. Yesterday's AAA game development studios are just today's indie development studios.

Even back in the arcade era, there were all the problems you listed today. Aggressive financial decisions? Arcades are almost as bad as any other microtransaction plagued game today, just now you have your credit card instead of whatever coins you had in your pocket. Nothing new under the sun? Same back then. Everything was a Space Invaders clone, arkanoid clone, Pac-Man clone, etc. Hell, even brand new genres were often just described as <first-real-hit-in-that-genre>-clones.

Oh, and gamers weren't entitled and negative pieces of shit "back then"? That's a laugh, there are posts about the Nintendo 64 that look like any typical post about any new console (racial epithets included).

If anything, games as a whole are getting better. Yes, many older games have a vibrant and successful modding scene, but many newer games are being built with modding officially implemented.


All I need is Gmod, Forts, Minecraft, and Team Fortress 2.


Im going to admit that i never really liked this channel, but this video shaked all my beliefs and behaviors, this video is one of the best critics i ever saw


You could literally use this video, replace words for “game” with words for “cartoon”, and use it as an argument for Problem Solverz bringing so much irrational hate in otherwise-respectful people.


Oh boy! I cant wait to come back to this video in 5 years and think “we had it so good back in 2020”

@quuj It was better, Battlefield had so much to grow and then shit 5 happened, it's astounding graphically speaking but it sucks, compared to good ol 1942, people could ride submarines, destroyers, bombers, attackers, fighters, so much shit that 5 considers a expansion setup that it just proves how we gone the full circle with the shit marketing telling everyone this is new.


Burnout 3 Takedown one of the best EA racing games that game still holds up to this day let's go back to 2004 and Welcome back DJ Striker to Crash FM


Im glad I like jrpgs. They still doing pretty good lol.  But i still run back to kh2 or ff7 whenever i need a good game break


Nintendo sells the most consoles for people to play graphically updated versions of the same Zelda game ad nauseum. It just works.


VR is the future, but developers are very few or doesnt have the resources yet


Emplemon can we please get a there will never ever be another youtuber like dunkey?


No games hath not but Devs (or companies) just got lazy giving us half finish games

Reality is gaming still perfect fun but like most art you can't be lazy about it got to put your heart in it


Would be fine playing 2000's games. In fact Need For Speed alone would satisfy as there's Underground 1 & 2, original most wanted, Carbon (My favorite one), Undercover, and Shift, as well as a couple other titles. Also the Fifa games 06 -09 are satisfactory enough. WWE SvR series '06 - 2010 missing off 2011. Prototype as well as the 2 sequels if I ever wanted to play them. <br>And that's all just PS3

Would be fine playing 2000's games. In fact Need For Speed alone would satisfy as there's Underground 1 & 2, original most wanted, Carbon (My favorite one), Undercover, and Shift, as well as a couple other titles. Also the Fifa games 06 -09 are satisfactory enough. WWE SvR series '06 - 2010 missing off 2011. Prototype as well as the 2 sequels if I ever wanted to play them.
And that's all just PS3


Did a literal double take when I heard Internet Historian start talking


Specific companies have gone on a downward spiral, but there are still plenty of great games being made. Red dead 2, mario odyssey, zelda botw, undertale, spiderman ps4, ff7 remake, smash bros ultimate, and the list goes on.

@ok Because Triple A and double A gaming is what gaining once was yes indie is great and all but it it’s no comparison. Plus indie is hardly in the best spot there was only really 4 or 5 great ones last year

@AtheJbaka ok, maybe I shouldn't have said that it's only your opinion, I'll give you that point. But of course it seems like gaming is dead if you only look at triple a devs. I mean, why don't you count indie franchises when talking about how you think gaming is dead?

@ok Good job ignoring my second point because you know I’m right ;) and I should have clarified major franchises sorry bud but 80% of all video game franchises have been destroyed undeniably

@ok Are you deranged I’m not talking about tiny indie franchises the mass affects, fallout, sports games etc. And no the quality of games is objective compare games critically from the late 90s to 2010s and now it’s clear. Claiming everything is subject is why gaming is dead Fallout 76 is objectively a terrible game

@AtheJbaka well considering how many gaming franchises are out there, I think it's a little presumptuous to say that a vast majority of them are dead. And saying "games back then were better" or something along those lines isn't a fact, it's an opinion

Not only “specific companies” the vast majority of franchises are also dead. Gaming will never be as good as it was in the late 90s and early 2000s - 2010 it’s simply a fact


Hype for a game makes it bad because expectations? Kinda, we have a floor of expectations that is what we expect to have atleast:
-Fun gameplay
-Some kind of formula
-Innovation
-Polish
Thats why some stuff as Mighty No9 failed when it played, looked and copied Megaman formula as Crap, but stuff like Hollowknight, Shovel Knight, Omori and others work and are good, maybe more than good, because there is undeniable passion and love.

Also I disagree with everyone being a downer, people is more down than positive thats right, but look for Mario Oddysey reviews, Breath of the Wild, God Of War, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Hades and so many others, long videos with praise and love also exist, telling how they did it and why it works


The real problem is the people who think that better graphics make the game better


It doesn't matter in Mario Party.<br>That game series destroys every friendship.

It doesn't matter in Mario Party.
That game series destroys every friendship.


Bought my first PC September 2020, first game I downloaded: old school RuneScape ol


Who's thought the some guy who brought us UNcredibles also brought us the most galaxy brain shit I've ever seen


idk i love botw and acnh along with smash ultimate which all met my expectations just fine


Well, without the rubbish games, the good games would seem normal, so, a really good game like super mario oddessy, fruit ninja, among us, minecraft, cuphead, crash bandicoot 4, all these games are better compared to the bad ones, without the bad, we would not have the good


You're blaming alot of this on gamers/consumers whereas a bunch of it is also down to game developers... a load of games aren't just overhyped. Oftentimes their developers also overpromise and underdeliver.

Tbh its a two-sided problem.

Gamers ( especially if they only play modern games ) :

developed a throw-away-mentality which they mostly buy a new game and never finishing it because a newer and more shiny game is on the market.  They made those gaming-trends relevant and since a decade we have too many empty open world games with very shallow gameplay that tries to be every genre and doesnt succeed in any design choice whatsoever. Thats why we have slowly a death of genres right now.  Never looking at the past and see what timeless classics are there to enjoy and understanding why depth and challenge is very important for games. We gamers wanted more cinematic games with less gameplay and much more useless cutscenes/scripts while wanting almost no challenge in games . And thats the majority right now.

Publishers of tripple-A games:
they wanna make money fast , efficient and in high amount. And how are they doing ? Microtransactions , dlc packs , half-assed game remasters , games-as-service , creating hype , watering down gameplay and especially with lies . They try to get away with every predatory tactic to squish more money out of us as long as we dont buy their stuff (which wont happen because the ignorance of many gamers prevent this stuff to get vanished) . The bizarre thing is they go with gaming-trends which are set by gamers and make it for . But they even manipulated the gaming community with standards through games media and fron there on the circle of gaming-trends closes.

At the end , gamers deserved their industry how it is become and companies took the opportunity to worse it up how it is now.

Thats why indie-/ retro-games are mostly the better option nowadays compared to tripple-A.


as much as i agree with the statement of "nascar thunder 2004 the best nascar game." but i do enjoy the new ones, and i've played them, the thing missing was the progression or unlockable content. Yes i get that dlc is technically helping bring money in for 704Games (since they are technically indie in a sense.) and thats why i also hate the new games because dlc is just boring why not let us have unlockable content in the new games and the dlc skins. When it comes to a lot of games i think poor management and forcing the dev teams to hurry up and pump it out to meet christmas or black friday and thats why modern games are awful well most of them. There are a lot of hit or misses in gaming today and even back then. is it on a downward spiral? maybe, maybe not. its just hit or miss anymore. like i really loved Cyberpunk 2077 even if it was a horrible broken trash pile.


I think it says a lot that this is my least favorite emplemon video hes ever put out and i still think its really good.


Nah m8 that's not fair the poll did not specify that you were giving up new hardware, etc. Poll is only about which era of games


God klay world clips make me feels some kind of way. Show was real important to me but I'm always reminded that I was ripped off when I was a kid with no money buying the dvds.


Gamers be like: "Broken initial release? Politics up the ass? Day one DLC? DRM? Unfinished? False promises? No content? low FPS? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE CHARGING $60 FOR THIS!!! Anyway, here's my $60. Have a good day."


Seeing de blob and drawn to life in the shovelware category hurt my childhood


Oh, to go back in time and play 2007 tf2


NASCAR Thunder 2004 is the greatest racing game of all time. Nothing can compare to it's career mode.


@13:13 reminds me of popular discorse about sega saturn back in the day. Everyone thought it was lame because it didn't have 3d sonic...


I see your dislike for Jimmy Kimmel still burns strong. Good.


What is a "better game" though, it's all subjective


The entire industry is a joke, every part of it, those who make it, those who fund it, those who are paying for it and those consuming it.

The entire scene is a waste of time, even "artistic" games and indies fall into the mediocre of crowd pleasing mongers.


Valve made up for artifact with Alyx, now I can’t wait for half life 3... again... 2010s might be back after all folks


Rewatching this video, I realise he lumped de Blob in with the other tacky shovelware games, this is incorrect, de Blob slaps, go play it


Thanks so much for referencing Klay World.


Imagine not playing anything SsethTzeentch reviews


to be honest I think NASCAR thunder 2004 and Nascar 2005 Chase for the cup or like the peak of EA greatness but it's kind of sad how ta is now gone too much more scummier methods into bed that we don't have papyrus racing to develop the better Nascar games because they became iRacing later on in the years and the sad thing is that their last game was NASCAR racing 2003 season


Censorship has killed the quality of games. No sex no nudity and no thought provoking themes and no combinations of both. Play station is dead to me.


there's always this one kid in the party or chat saying imagine playing. "call of duty" or imagine liking fortnite


I know its late BUT. It's more that pokemon keeps getting father and father away form what was fun. Getting chained down and drug around when all i want is to just walk the other way.


Didn't hear a word you said after my brain deciphered 8-bit "Toxic" by Britney Spears


This the first time I've seen a popular YouTuber name drop ATV QPR 2

You have earned my respect for knowing a hidden gem 🤝🤝🤝


as one of the 2000s people's votes, all I have to say is tf2


Holy shit he plays hightower pub trolldier, what a pegend


Ya so true I’ve been playing tf2 since 2011 and I haven’t got bored but I got bored playing over watch in a couple of months


I have always thought all the problems with games boil down to stupid corporate decisions and 30 year olds having midlife crisis because of it

@calska140 I consider midlife to be 30 to 50 years old.

30 isn't mid-life though.... Do you live in a 3rd world country with a small pox outbreak or something?


True! No Man's Sky is way better nowadays. Sadly, it's still written off.


Laughs in Splatoon 2.

To be fair that's the only AAA game that I remember being good recently.

Mario kart 8 is so fun too, Nintendo is still great :p


This is not true. Its nostalgia. PS3 and PS4 are the best. PS2 still good.


there are also good game reviewers though, civvie 11?joseph anderson?


At minute 10:40 deblob and drawn to life were done dirty there


People always act like the new call of duty is the worst thing to grace this earth and I find that every time I occasionally buy the new one I really enjoy just playing it with my friends and trying to get camos and then I look at a discussion about it and people are acting like it's the worst thing ever made


wow emplemon is just dunkey + pyrocynical


as a nascar game fan its true nascar thunder 04 is the greatest nascar licensed product ever and the games now are copy and paste


The irony of getting an ad about an csgo team


"Kinda ridiculous that these kids are watching somebody else play a video game, how weird!" Its quite normal to watch football or other sports on TV, why not go play it yourself? I'm sorry for my vent yall but that argument just raddled my nerves.

@Chicken in a burger Puts streamers in quotation marks implying streamers are not actually streamers.

Professional sports are on a completely different level than "streamers"


Gaming is plugging a console in and playing it. Not paying 4 grand for a damn computer that: you can play the same fucking games you can on console, gets outdated every year and has to be taken care of like a damn car but more expensive.


EAs gonna by the government at some point I know it


21:44 Nice, GT3 music... Nostalgia is coming in... Better prepare for the license test... Concentrate...


I already think $60 is bullshit and there’s no way in hell I’m paying anymore


I’m still playing my modded Wii with thousands of games.


The peak of local multi-player is the DS?

HAHAHHAHAAHHA absolutely not. Too young to ever go to a Halo or Halo 2 LAN party?

loved playing halo 2 lan parties on the school bus


Maybe decline, but downward spiral seems like a stretch

<del>i think gaming has been on a downward spiral mentally and now it's lost it completely</del>

-i think gaming has been on a downward spiral mentally and now it's lost it completely-


What about terraria man. That game is legendary or witcher 3 that's prob the best game if all time


Smash ultimate purposely prioritized graphics to the point where it has more input delay than necessary. Fucking annoying


11:50 totally over dramatic. Definitely not the “only way to pay his bills”
It’s the most “viable/time-efficient way to pay his bills” . Huuuuuuuuge difference.

i'm not sure about him, but it may be, because people can turn youtube into a full-time job

@Cole Joyce You're bent for some reason. No one understands

@Cole Joyce Yea with arms like yours definitely places you haven't.


"almost half of people polled would trade off 2010's games for 2000's"<br>lol i would trade both for 1990's games.

"almost half of people polled would trade off 2010's games for 2000's"
lol i would trade both for 1990's games.


thats why i only play games from before 2010


14:55 Wait wait wait wait wait. Weren’t you just complaining about games being released half-baked? (Example used of Fallout 76????) Which is it. This video contradicts itself a bout 4 more times like this.

Could you explain what you're trying to say please?


I've said it before and I'll say it again, fuck video games


this was a real neat critique but your simpson footage is messed up I think cause they look really green


Now you can’t even play talk abound mariokart online without getting backlash
whatever happened to the days of the community getting together to do this one thing, or game companies actually putting in effort instead of spewing out the same hot garbage every 6 months.
Can’t remember the last time someone was talking about fallout 76 positively
Yet I can remember how many times it was bought

(1,400,000 copies)

yee, you can't talk about anything positivly, you can even get backlash for not saying the right thing, especally if it's opinionated.


Lots of bad takes in this vid but lots of good ones too


"The age of impossible expectations." Don't know if you came up with that or someone else but that is the truest statement that I've heard in a while.


Mentions Shovelware
>Drawn to life, LEGO Rock Band, Sonic and All Stars, Mario and Sonic,  Sonic and the Black Knight show up
Untrustworthy.

*Mentions Shovelware*
>Drawn to life, LEGO Rock Band, Sonic and All Stars, Mario and Sonic,  Sonic and the Black Knight show up
Untrustworthy.


I think its because people only like stuff when they are kids


Just believe in the sage words of Macho Man Randy Savage: "The cream will rise to the top."

@Toby that wasn't what was stated though.  The point was not about there being less games worthy of praise/cream rising to the top; only that video games as a whole are on a downward spiral as a general sentiment, especially regarding the "AAA" titles.  That isn't the same as saying there are less good games as a standalone statement.

@Toby why would I take it up with the creator of the video when you're the one who just made the statement?

I feel like there is no formula to make a great game, but if someone makes a great game, they'll know

@Toby this is false; there is just as much cream as there ever was; there is simply more junk it must rise above.

And let me POINT. To the PRESIDENT. Of the Woorld Wrestling Federation--yeah.


oh yeah, now i know why the 2010s felt off in terms of gaming,

no middle tier games from major developers. now i have to spend hours spelunking through steam to find those types of games, because the ui for steam is dogshit, AND trying to find the right tags take forever as you have scroll down the largest category menu in mankind.

@Guitar Dog which are alot of the times but not all the time c their games with good graphics

Yeah double A games dont exist anymore it's all triple AAA

I feel your pain, trying to find the right game to scratch that one itch your brain has that would immediately change once you actually get that game, and then the horrible feeling of burnout and frustration with that very game you've wasted around 20 - 40$ with. I've been having that feeling for a long time and have been trying to find something that I could and that my friends could enjoy other then the average minecraft or tf2 just with more layers on top of it.

Even though there are indie games i just play them for a day or 2 and move on back to the same old same old driving simulator or relaxed game i once had and continue to waste my money into.

One thing I have learned from this is to stick with what makes you happy and if it no longer makes you happy for quite a bit of time, to take a break and play the hundreds of thousands of games you have in your library after trying to find that right game.


I know my man did not just call de Blob and Deadly Creatures “tacky shovel ware”

That FE Lord Who Dies Halfway Through His Own Game


"It's not about the multiplayer, it's about playing the campaign."


Internet historian would rather upload on any other channel that his main channel.

But seriously emp this was a good video. I actually remember playing nascar 2004 with my cousins who like nascar unlike me, he would play serious and I would go in reverse crashing everyone except him so he would be the winner. And I agree games used to be simple and fun and now they're just designed to suck as much money out of you as possible or steal your entire life like a mobile game. And consoles being released every year with little graphical changes with even higher prices that make more amd more of less sense.


this is probably the shitiest take on the game industry i've seen from such a well respected in youtuber


i feel like nowadays, what content you like defines what type of person you are, slotting you into whatever stereotype applies, k-pop stans are the embodiment of them, its a sea of homogenous people fanatical about something they like, if you go on twitter and block out their names its impossible to tell the difference between them.

yeah, you can assume what kind of person someone is by what they like, by generalizing that subjects fandom.

@PlotTwist   It has always been like this, the Internet just makes it seem more detrimental than it actually is.

Good ol' human tribalism, hardly anything new.

It's a reflection of the hyperconsumerist, personality devoid society we live in today.


How much do you want to bet that Valve learned from Artifact and will literally just ship HL3 with no announcement.

HLA got shipped with some decent hype, and honestly lived up to it, so i think hl3 would be announced in the same way.

HL3 has already been overhyped even without knowing whether it'll ever exist, there's no way they'll ever meet the expectations no matter the PR


emp: "cynical explanation of disappointing video game innovation trends"<br>me: is this a thinly veiled criticism of videogamedunkey?

emp: "cynical explanation of disappointing video game innovation trends"
me: is this a thinly veiled criticism of videogamedunkey?


12:50 I swear this just happens in real life. Every year in elementary school everyone would just play tk have fun but two weeks later you had people punting the ball accross the playground just because they lost. And not to mention all of the arguing over the rules. All of the people that started the just up and left.


Minecraft also was not at all the death of local multiplayer, the hyperfocus on graphics is the reason there's no more local multiplayer; you can't have split-screen if the consoles can barely render the games at a stable framerate at the first place.

Just check out the ps3 most of the co op games on that console ran like shit in co op mode. Xbox devs focused a bit more on co op so their main games faired a bit better but there's still plenty of stuttery messes there to


so basically, wer'e the problem...

i mean thats fair enough and I agree with that


Back in ye olde days of 4Chan, one of our most legendary moments was "TorTanic", when SWTOR came out and utterly failed. <br>What was a fun, one time event has unfortunately taken an eternal life over the rest of the web. Now people are trying to create the next hate bandwagon and have fun whipping the horse until it falls down. Expectations are rarely met, and given the "hype" and "first" culture combined on today's internet, they never will be again.

Back in ye olde days of 4Chan, one of our most legendary moments was "TorTanic", when SWTOR came out and utterly failed.
What was a fun, one time event has unfortunately taken an eternal life over the rest of the web. Now people are trying to create the next hate bandwagon and have fun whipping the horse until it falls down. Expectations are rarely met, and given the "hype" and "first" culture combined on today's internet, they never will be again.

Nowadays, 4channel praises games as a service MTX ridden games constantly, no one bats an eye at recent releases like Genshin Impact so long as it's free* and they're not asking you full price for entry even though they're perpetuating the same BS that had people rage furiously in the past. I do question if the TORtanic could happen today other than generating the usual negativity, it would be just another mildly infuriating but ultimately unremarkable event.


"Just as we can forgive old media for its limitations..."

By god, if only more people did... I swear in 2020 alone I've watched people dismiss every artist, scientist, and author who was born before 1980 as "Bumblers who don't understand the universe as well as we do only because they were too stupid", to paraphrase.

Fallout 1 & 2 are my favorite video games. Played countless hours on them. Same with many other 90s and early 2000s games. I love the past because things were simpler but also people were more intelligent. Not more knowledgeable but intelligent. Big difference.


Indie games is where its been at for 10 years bro.

@XxXVideoVeiwerXxX Yeah, I've noticed since every other game is just a metroidvania or roguelike reskin, the rest that don't fit into that category are just gimmicky games like untitled goose game.

@Prostagma? lol
You are young right?
Anyway. You realize most things are indie now right?

@Prostagma? I mention cave story because it was a revolution because it was the first indie game to be really popular and also it's free

minecraft is the only indie game worth playing out of the bunch

But it's hard to find a good game but when you find a good game it's gonna get you hooked like minecraft or cave story


10:40
Did... Did he just call De Blob shovelware? Such a cool game with such a cool soundtrack was put by him on the same level as bad licensed c-class movie games?

Tofawil it’s a stock image, I wouldn’t worry too much about it


I disagree.

That one Nascar DOS game where you could draw on all the cars is the best Nascar game.

@Trae Fisher : Never played that, but you may have me beat.

There's a lot of love for 'Wreck Fest' and NASCAR skins for the stock cars. When I save up for a new computer in 2067 my own car designs will finally be re-realized.

I counter, the best NASCAR racing game is NASCAR Racing 2003 Season where you could do just that. Though nowadays people prefer using GIMP to create quality schemes.


Depends on when plants vs zombies was released For what gen I would pick


I’m planning to be a video game developer, and my goal is to set milestones for the gaming industry and make video games more popular than they already are. Specifically, I want to show the world what stories and worlds can be told through video games. I want to to make people take video games seriously as a medium rather than just a nerdy hobby. Your video helped me understand the challenges in the video game industry that I need to overcome, and I hope to have a part in solving those issues as well.

By the way, you should really get a Nintendo Switch. All the problems you cited about popular games not having quality gameplay or not being innovative are solved with Nintendo games. No matter how the state of the gaming industry is, Nintendo will always make great games.

Strange, I have a somewhat similar goal to you. Maybe we'll someday if things end up going as planned.

@Trash Man I mean...that was years ago lol

Trash Man name oooone more other than some mario partys and ammibo festival

@Trash Man Yeah, but they redeemed themselves with New Horizons.

I both agree and disagree with your last paragraph. Sure, there’s a large amount of great Nintendo games, but there’s still the occasional fuckup with shit like Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival.


I think that alot of people enjoy older games is because of nostalgia, having fond memories of games can make them feel better but once that nostalgia fades away the game just isn’t comparable to modern games anymore.

@Wernher Von BraunHonestly everything about Hotline Miami is so cool

@Pile O'Taters Never thought I'd see anyone ever mention that game as long as I lived. Criminally underrated.


I mean, nostalgia is a thing. You hear it all the time, back in the "good old days". For me, (b2004) the 2010s are where it is at, and in the future I will feel the same way about later decades. It is all subjective in my opinion. I love the games I have played in the last decade, and even though I own more wii and gamecube games than any other system (sans pc) I believe that the games coming out on the switch today are better. Xenoblade definitive edition is miles better than the original for me as an example. The forza horizon games of the 2010s blow your need for speed undergrounds and burnouts out of the water.

Just because you aren't children anymore doesn't mean you are allowed to say shit like "its all gone downhill" and pretend that it is objective. It is not just me who thinks the games I played growing up are better than the ones you did, that is what you are saying as well.

Allow me to make a concession. There are a LOT of shit games floating around right now. From EA to Activision (most of the time) and more, yearly cash grabs are being pumped out unfinished regularly. But consider this. I guarantee you that the majority of the games from your favorite childhood system, from the NES to the WII, are also garbage cash grabs from companies trying to make a quick buck. I am not saying that this issue has gone away, but thanks to widespread review systems and a more rigorous process towards physical releases, it is definitely lesser so. Also, large scale games companies making shit is not the same as some brand hopping in for a few licensed games every couple years. Maybe so, but also consider the great games that these large companies still make every once in a blue moon. There is a reason these games still work. As a long time fifa fan, it is extremely frustrating as I observe a game I love hardly changing from year to year, but If you lean back and take a look at where it is going, I think it is going up.

You may notice that there are a LOT of "i think" and opinions in here. That is because the whole argument is subjective, and this is my real point. I am not asking you to suddenly stop looking at the games you love with the bias that comes from childhood and memories and the like, I just think calling the games that make me and others feel the same way "objectively worse" or "uninspired" is hypocritical. If you disagree with me here, good for you. This is my opinion, but I put some "facts" in there too, so If they are wrong feel free to body me. Have a nice day, traveller.

EDIT: OH! By the way, this comment is not directly addressing the video, I just felt like sharing it in a comment section that seemed on topic. I made this edit before there were any replies (if there ever are) so it shouldn't change anything.

I think some people only remember the good and forget the bad. If someone thinks back to the 2000s they might only remember the very best 10/10 games because they were most memorable.

I lived through very primitive technology compared to everybody else, and the only modern console I use is the switch. My first console was an NES. I was born in 2001 might I remind you, and the guy who gave me his old console didn’t want it, so I had a shit ton of games back then. It was cool looking through gems like Mario bros 3 and rare gems like ice hockey. Yeah there was a werewolf the last warrior in the mix. But I still loved rummaging around to find the gems in a giant pile of dirt. Because there were no downloads and such. When I was 7 I finally got a wii, which my whole family had to all come together to get me. My father at the time had a ps2, which was convenient because vhs was going out of style and new video games were being released. And before my parents divorce, that ps2 entertained us very suitably. I still had that wii when it was wayyy out of style. And I got my switch in 2017. Finally a new console. And through that time, my mothers random crackhead and pedophile friends dropped off a ps2 years after it was out of style, a n64, and SNES.

The only shitty games that sell back in the day are shitty license games but not all of them are shitty