"There are PEOPLE watching other people play sports! To me that's ridiulous!"

@shaemus I’m gay, and I can confirm this is true.

“There are PEOPLE watching other people have sex! To me that’s ridiculous!”

There are people watching other people make unfunny jokes! To me that is ridiculous!

I mean I get it now, but at first one of the main reasons why I couldn't understand why esports and streaming got so big is because I would keep telling myself  "why would I watch these guys play video games, when I could play it myself", the main draw of watching pro sports is people can't do it themselves, most people on earth are literally incapable of doing what LeBron James can do, sports is like real life anime when you think about it.

I literally just said this to my screen.

@Jazzzz The problem is that in American culture it’s ok when rich capitalist Boomers like something but anyone else can go to hell

It’s the same shit in politics and honestly everything else in the USA’s extremely Boomer focused culture

@Jazzzz I personally never understood what the point was/is in Let's Plays or life streaming regular Gameplay or something. Maybe to get an Idea how the game plays and how it is, never tough to watch it full length or something. It's damn boring to me not to play, like watching the older brother without a chance to get the controller.  Except for Speedrunning and more so competative gameplay, wich is pretty much more like watching people doing Sport.
But I don't give shit either. If one enjoys watching people play a game, so be it. Do as you please. I don't get why people would ever want to watch a musical or a romantical film (both equal to torture for me). But yeah, whatever you enjoy. Everyone should consume their choice of content in the in a way they'd enjoy it.

Tough you gotta give this man some credit. I mean the Idea to watch someone playing a game is kinda abstract and seems very strange at the first glance. Even for not to few people like me who grew up playing video games and I was still young, when the whole lets play thing arrived. If you are older, no gaming experience, barely any internet culture and so on, this must seem like the most absurd thing ever.

@Alex Montgomery So, u don't watch the game,u watch people<br>U need a talk show

@Alex Montgomery So, u don't watch the game,u watch people
U need a talk show

@Jazzzz I have already critize people who watching sport out of that videogame context<br>So, Can I also critize who watches gameplay?

@Jazzzz I have already critize people who watching sport out of that videogame context
So, Can I also critize who watches gameplay?

"OKAY, so..."
audience cackles
"Please, let me start!  I promise this will be good!"
audience falls silent in anticipation
"So it has recently come to my attention, that there are PEOPLE..."
suppressed cackles
"There are PEOPLE, roight?  Like you and myself, roight?"
cackling gets louder
"PEOPLE, who watch MILLIONAIRES!"
cackling turns to laughter
"RUNNING AROUND a FIELD, and THROWING BALLS AROUND!"
roaring laughter
"I mean, come ON, people!  It's two thousand, TWENTY!"
people start laughing hysterically
"Why on EARTH are people so CAPTIVATED by CHILDREN'S passtimes!"
laughter gets louder
"Bloody CHILDREN throw balls around at school, but you don't see THEM getting paid by the millions, roite?"
riot breaks out on the set, the place slowly collapsing from the roaring laughter

"OKAY, so..."
*audience cackles*
"Please, let me start!  I promise this will be good!"
*audience falls silent in anticipation*
"So it has recently come to my attention, that there are PEOPLE..."
*suppressed cackles*
"There are PEOPLE, roight?  Like you and myself, roight?"
*cackling gets louder*
"PEOPLE, who watch MILLIONAIRES!"
*cackling turns to laughter*
"RUNNING AROUND a FIELD, and THROWING BALLS AROUND!"
*roaring laughter*
"I mean, come ON, people!  It's two thousand, TWENTY!"
*people start laughing hysterically*
"Why on EARTH are people so CAPTIVATED by CHILDREN'S passtimes!"
*laughter gets louder*
"Bloody CHILDREN throw balls around at school, but you don't see THEM getting paid by the millions, roite?"
*riot breaks out on the set, the place slowly collapsing from the roaring laughter*

honestly it really depends who you watch play other games. And the reason people like sports so much is because it is a competition.

There's a definite difference between watching somebody play sports vs watching somebody play a videogame. When you're watching sports, you're watching skilled athletes who have trained themselves for years compete in big events.  Where as with video games, you can just play the game itself and get the same experience. But you wouldn't have le funny reaction man in the upper left corner doing stupid faces for likes, would you?

I think the point is with actual sports you're watching physically gifted athletes pushing themselves to the extent of what the human body is capable of, where as with video games you're essentially just watching a guy sit infront of a computer with a mouse and keyboard.

Okay, Jimmy! People sit and watch you talk instead of having a conversation with their families. The only difference is that the people playing video games are good at what they do.

I think of it like man i like football i want to watch it whenever and you can interact with it put yourself into the media thats cool as hell i personally game and don't enjoy watching people play games but i understand if the person playing said game in an entertaining way i don't esports that's boring to me i do enjoy most non competitive games when it comes to watching people play games

@Jazzzz you know, I don't really see esports as a real sport, but that's just one of my thoughts that you might disagree with. But I'm surprised that there are people who whine about you guys watching esports. As a tennis fan myself, I'm sorry to hear this. Fuck those people, they're just annoying people that like to sabotage everything

@Amadeus Amadeus oh ok well if I’m being honest I wouldn’t know cause I don’t watch sports so thanks for this information

@Alex Montgomery how? Rules change every year. Gameplans have become so integral to sports that they're almost suspenseful. New players join every year who have different skill levels and different innovative qualities like Steph Curry or Michael Vick.

Kind of related, An awesome thing about the 'Other people watching other people play video games' is you can have  your favorite online comedians and other really entertaining people play games and get a different ride/reaction with each, even people like Stefan Molyneux the banned-philosopher or Vaush the violent "lets use lies and elect a rapist" Marxist, play our favorite games like Doom, and.. it's entertaining!  while they interact with their community in live chat.  That's two things that sports guys playing a serious game can't do. This is better than when we were little kids watching our friends play games while waiting for our turn.  (if you were the kid whose parents or parent couldn't afford everything)

 Not that I meant to make any judgement against sports here, but this is something mainstream media reporters just don't understand about games.  Some games I will never buy but I enjoy watching funny people play them for a bit.

as someone that's played sports i will confirm that it is more fun to play them

Laura Ponder not to criticize those who watch sports that’s fine do what you want but there are distinct differences between video games and sports

Laura Ponder I agree I don’t mind watching playing games because it interesting there are different genres and they have different reactions but with sports the rules stay the same you can only play them one way one 10 people can play the same game and I would watch all 10 and still be entertained because they have different reactions and commentary

@Jazzzz I will say that i've seen traditional sports fans enjoy stuff like i-racing in the case of Nascar fans, so its not that they have a problem with e-sports as a concept.

Boomers just don't understand e-sports that aren't based on established traditional sports (like FPS or fighting games), as well as they don't understand watching people play games in general. They think the e-sport has to be something that can translate 1-to-1 in real world sports, which is just a really silly constraint.

@Arcade Jaguar  I don't mind esports either. I was just pointing out the how dumb that sentence was. It's dumb to criticize people for watching other play games when no one criticizes people watching sports. Or maybe I took your comment the wrong way. Sorry if I did.


The claim that people in the 2000s just wouldn't buy broken, crappy games could just as easily be applied to brand new releases. If people keep buying unfinished, poorly made games, don't blame developers for settling for that level of quality. Blame the idiots who buy it.


I feel like today its about money and graphics. Back then it was about fun and emersion. Animation based gameplay has taken over and made gameplay...well play a current version of madden and you will see. Also studios just know you will most likely spend your money on it. Plus alot of companies have a monopoly of what game they make.


There's a link between triple AAA games all wanting to be 100-hr story driven behemoths and the rise of political content in games. If you're just making an ATV stunt game, than politics don't factor into the story....at all. But if you have a character driven, grandly scoped narrative, it WILL have real world parallels. Not addressing potential political elements or sidelining them will be labeled "problematic". And centering political issues will stir up discussion and provide a spotlight in the media for your game. Game developers have every incentive to include politics in their game, one way or another.


YES someone finally referenced Knox's Korner! Why am I so happy about this!?


Perhaps it would a good sign if developers stopped putting emphasis on really bad deadline philosopheies that require them to make annual releases. I can see that being a good start for many future games.

To the people sitting at the top, annual releases are just annual positive cash flow, they could spend 4 years on a good game but why do that and risk running dry, if you're a succesful company/franchise you just gotta pump games out to keep making a quick buck.

So yeah, not the developpers' fault, just the guys who make the decisions and are disconnected from the very industry they work in.

Release it when it’s ready. Don’t announce it until it’s basically done. Spend the next year and a half polishing and bugfixing anyway, THEN release it.


Remember when every game was fully finished before being sold? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


2:13 No, nearly half of all of your Twitter respondents would give up 2010s games, not nearly half of ALL people.

I love my 2000s games and I probably play them more than 2010s games, but that's mostly for nostalgia. Its nonsense to say most of the games back then are better than most the games today. Yes, some of the best games ever made were from of the 2000s, but the overall quality of games (graphics, playtime, gameplay) has only increased with time. Then again, this entire video is based on one Twitter poll and simply extrapolates it to be the opinion of "the gaming community at large".

And the most likely reason Nascar 2004 was the best nascar game ever made is because hardly anyone plays those games. Nobody is going to put serious money into developing a high quality Nascar game because there is not enough hardcore Nascar gamers who would actually buy it.


BO2 was the best game and it was also the end to a era at the same time best friends and strangers


The one thing I don’t understand is why do games take so long to make now, yet either feel so empty or actually have hardly anything in them, despite the development companies being enormous. How and why does it take so long to make so little when there are so many resources available?


"if you already have a library of games you enjoy playing, why would you go out and buy a new one that you probably wouldn't even like?"

steam sales.

For real, my friend has 751 games on steam, of which he has played like 20 games for over 2 hrs

And then most of those games never see play and waste away in an endless library of backlogs.

Well, because I cant play the same game for more than 2 Weeks at best? It's truly frustrating but for me it's not just with videogames, it's literally everything.

Fun fact; don't remember the exact statistics but like. 60%+ of sales on steam happen during sales lmao.


I played the last of us 2 today on the ps4 it wasn't bad pretty decent game, I also played zombie revenge on the Dreamcast an avargely rated arcade game on the system ...... guess which one was waaaay more fun than the other .....


Im so happy there are other people that have not forgotten the legend that is chad warden


I think game developer should just take more time to release. But unless, as emplemon said if we don't just buy it. It will continue


10 out of 10 just because he got Internet Historian


Only two minutes in and the writing about giving up certain aspects of 2010 gaming is brilliant. Kind of a small thing but it really adds to the overall thesis of your video. This is what I call an upward spiral


this makes me scared for the Steam Deck now. if i end up wasting $600 on crap, someone's gonna get ripped in half


i was having no fun playing games until i started playing farming simulator at first it was a joke now i actually enjoy it


Yes, because COMPANIES think they need to cater to players' needs :I nono there's a method to this madness... You need to create beauty in what you make... and take suggestions into account. Not do everything they tell you to do. There are wants and there are chaotic wants. chaotic wants are things people have opinions about to which do not really matter to the game itself as it is only an idea that shouldn't be put into play. A game...is something...you make...for others...to experience and have fun with. If they aren't having fun, you don't need to fix anything because you yourself will KNOW whether your game is fun. This is why companies are a joke and development studios are not. dev studios are mostly indie now because publishers cater to players' needs... third to second party to be exact... if you are an indie developer you literally know what you need to dish out and publishers are you. You are the publisher, you know what to do. Publishers have their own wants and rules. They don't abide by your rules and basically own you. There ya go. Yes... it is a downward spiral. But it is a terrible terrible fact that non-indie publishers are just not good.


There is no online championship that will ever feel as rewarding as beating your friend next to you on the couch in smash after they taunted/ made a snarky comment.

@Shaman Xeed you had me in the first half not gonna lie

@Shaman Xeed Bruh, I get what you're saying but you didn't have to put in "casual normie" or make a huge rant over how the hardcore minority is being "oppressed" cause these days, I feel that companies are catering more to you guys recently anyway. Unless this is a joke cause this seems to go way over the top, lol.


15:00 If I'm honest, a large part of this is just the industry being held accountable. If they don't want to get panned, stop overhyping things? Like, the industry deserves this. They're just able to be caught. 20 years ago they lied and no one ever knew, there was no way to hold them accountable. But now their held accountable for the fact 90% of what they say will be in the game isn't and their nothing but a bunch of liars (Cyberpunk, No Man's Sky). Fixing the game lately doesn't make the NMS devs any better then liars by the way. They lied to everyone. Fixing that later doesn't make it okay, just makes it less bad. They still willingly and knowingly lied to make money. That's what they did. They lied to make money. That's just a fact. I don't care if they fixed it, they still chose to do that.


Imo Death stranding was the most 2000's feeling game in the decade because of it took a risk and made a game that was different from all the games that released in its year.

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I think like u said there arent as many mid tier games nothing huge but still enjoyable and could even craft a huge cult following


15:25 There's a lot about Artifact that went wrong from not only the poor monetization, but the design and gameplay itself. I'm a huge fan of card games, I am fine with the DOTA property. Artifact was every bad design decision you could put into a card game, designed by the guy who INVENTED card games, and I still want my 20 bucks back.

It was also announced in the middle of the Hearthstone craze, after every studio was coming out with card games (Gwent, Elder Scrolls: Legends). It just felt like a massive cash grab by Valve.

It didn't help that it was also announced at a Dota 2 event, a game which has very different principles with its microtransactions than an online card game. In Dota 2, microtransactions are solely used for cosmetic purposes, whereas a game like Artifact basically forces you to spend money to buy card packs.

I think the game had amazing gameplay and it was super interesting, just extremely taxing mentally imo.


The thing is the people that play the games are just as much a problem as the people making them. You talked about a lot of the consumer problems. I think the main issue is internet itself. It's why reviewers can make people follow their opinion like sheep, why overhyping happens, why toxic fandoms form, ect.

With that being said I am proud to say that I actually really like Fallout 76 now it's now an ok game. I know theres always dumb shit but i just like the trees


The way I see it, every time something gets too mainstream it gets bad, and games have gotten too mainstream.


Fifa from 98 - ’06 (except for ’04) was Quality AF (though I preferred Pro Evolution)


For me video games died the moment 8th gen gaming was introduced. Now the only thing u get is beautiful  realistic graphics and boring gameplay.


23:35 Melee is a fantastic game that was eons ahead of it's time, but let's be real here... if we are speaking objectively, Ultimate is a better game all around (as infuriating as it may be).

That being said, the vast majority of games have gotten much worse over the years.

I think you’re misusing “objectively”. I think a better term would be “on a technical level” or something along those lines.


You make a lot of good points, as usual, but your perspective is aggressively bias. Your nostalgia and limited exposure, in real life, prevent you from ever having anywhere close to objective views.. like, in what world were arguments about xbox vs ps not toxic as fuck? Really, younger people are really enjoying their era of games, we aren’t because they aren’t ours. Granted, gaming businesses practices are predatory as fuck, but there are still high quality games and a lot of our preference for early eras is nostalgia based.

And same with the jimmy kimmel rant on liberals; nothing you said was really wrong but what it really made me think is that you don’t have much of any exposure to the conservatives of the same variety.. or you are a conservative of the same variety.


yeah thing is even when a game does so much right somehow people are still able to tear it a new one. like for example ff7 remake which is an amazing outstanding game and again i think one of the best games of 2020 is somehow bashed and gets told its one of the worst final fantasy games out there. i mean the same thing happens with fallout 4. i have seen 3 hours videos describing why fallout 4 is the worst fallout game ever made apparently.(this may or may not have been before fallout 76) and even then somehow fallout 4 may be worse then fallout 76 to some people. -_-


that 8-bit "toxic" cover was lit. That bass line is dirty


Early 2000s were the best years for gaming imo. Especially fighting games

Current fighting games are really competitive and insanely fun but local multiplayer in the older era was so fun


so true ,the game industry whent dark,cold. not used to be like the old awesome days of videogames era


Burnout 3 Takedown ran infinitely better than that choppy PS2 mess, and it was as close to gaming comfort food as I've found


When you said EA sports at the 4 minute mark, i automatically said "its in the game"


Video games aren't getting worse.

The world is.


Of course EmpLemon is a tf2 gamer. I loved him before, I truly worship him now.

I had a hunch that he was a big tf2 fan. Mostly due to using a bunch of tf2 related memes including some rather obscure ones.

If you haven’t seen his epic gaming montages i recommend you do now.


As a roblox fan, i feel content having my game called the less popular but still good cousin of minecraft.


The death of local multiplayer is best shown by fortnite's split screen mode. It's barely there, lacking elements that are essential (one of the most egregious examples being the fact that while wearing headphones, you still hear the audio from both players).


1:27 is so true, no Kingdom Hearts game has surpassed KH2 over 15 years later


I have yet to play a racing game that has exhillerated me as much as Burnout 3 and Need for Speed Underground 1 & 2. Forza Horizion and GTAO have gotten close. But not quite there.. but yea 2 games published by EA, how far they have fallen and how low they have stooped..


Personally i think alot of games are kinda of ashamed that they're videogames if that makes sense. Like i get this feeling of i wish i were a movie or i wish i were a TV show. It's like the developers are bitter about not being able to direct movies or something.

Play Nier Automata if you’re sick of this trend


I still stand by my wii, just pure gaming fun


Wreckfest is a good exception to the rule of new racing games.....but it was a passion project.


The gamers who made these titles have all since retired and moved on. Everyone else were either forced to or have been corrupted by corporate greed.


Call of duty was the last holdout for me, but now cold war is the last new COD I will ever buy. The mechanic of skill based matchmaking completely ruined the fun of online multiplayer for me. What happens is you crush one game, and are suddenly put in the category with the ultimate tryhard gods of gaming for about 3 games, so any fun of progression, improving your own skill, and positive feedback is completely gutted. If you do well, you have a worse time. Theres no incentive to improve, not to mention whatever new gun is released through the battle pass is always the best. If you buy the battle pass, you get to use the gun instantly, and be a god who wins every gunfight. Or you can spend 2-3 weeks trying and grinding to get the good gun, only getting slowed down and demoralised by the people who bought the gun instantly, and just shit on you the whole time with it.<br>RIP the golden age of MW-BO2

Call of duty was the last holdout for me, but now cold war is the last new COD I will ever buy. The mechanic of skill based matchmaking completely ruined the fun of online multiplayer for me. What happens is you crush one game, and are suddenly put in the category with the ultimate tryhard gods of gaming for about 3 games, so any fun of progression, improving your own skill, and positive feedback is completely gutted. If you do well, you have a worse time. Theres no incentive to improve, not to mention whatever new gun is released through the battle pass is always the best. If you buy the battle pass, you get to use the gun instantly, and be a god who wins every gunfight. Or you can spend 2-3 weeks trying and grinding to get the good gun, only getting slowed down and demoralised by the people who bought the gun instantly, and just shit on you the whole time with it.
RIP the golden age of MW-BO2


honestly, back in the day, gaming was a isolated niche media that wasn't overly monetized, and as such warranted no mainstream attention, which suited loners, kids, close friends  and anyone who wanted to do their own thing. and as such was shielded from the douchebaggery that comes with being mainstream. aside from AAA and AA titles, alot of indie solo play games are still alright. oh, wait, that's every game ever, including basketball, football, chess, arcade games, etc.<br>i wonder what's going to be the next big trend in gaming after video games.

honestly, back in the day, gaming was a isolated niche media that wasn't overly monetized, and as such warranted no mainstream attention, which suited loners, kids, close friends  and anyone who wanted to do their own thing. and as such was shielded from the douchebaggery that comes with being mainstream. aside from AAA and AA titles, alot of indie solo play games are still alright. oh, wait, that's every game ever, including basketball, football, chess, arcade games, etc.
i wonder what's going to be the next big trend in gaming after video games.

People say stuff like that a lot, but it's entirely untrue. You just aren't remembering the shit because why would you?

If you go on to IMDB and sort by worst rated, you get a very different picture. At the very top is a 2018 indie title, the next game from the 2010's is Ride to Hell at #3, then Taishogun at #6 another indie title, the Slaughtering Grounds at #10 another indie title, Shadow the Ronin at #14 made by the same guy as Taishogun and he was still indie for that too, Alone in the Dark: Illumination at #16, #17 a pokemon parody made by PETA, #18 Hunt down the Freeman, #19 another by the guy who made Taishogun. Most of these are indie, and half of them are made by the same guy.

Just looking at that list shows that what you're saying is untrue, because I see plenty of corporate bullshit from the 90's. Superman 64, Hong Kong 97, Where's Waldo, the cdi Zelda games, 93 Wizard of Oz, Dennis the Menace, a couple Barbie games, Shaq Fu, Back to the Future part 2 and 3, The Crow: city of Angels, Quarterback Attack with Mike Ditka, Roger Clemens MVP baseball, The Ren and Stimpy Show: Fire Dogs; all just from 150 bottom rated on IMDB.

These games only exist because they'd have been corporately marketable. I might have misclassified some, as I haven't played all of these, but I think I can confidently say that at least some of them were the same kind of lazy cash grab as modern examples.

@Detah yeah, i know some other hidden gems as well, like Deadbolt, the Stealth Bastard series, Bastion,  Invisible Inc and even the Steamworld franchise.

Yeah a lot of my favorites are from smaller studios. Snow Runner and Darkest Dungeon are real gems


I root for games to fail I regret wasting 4 years of my life on them I'm absolutely pissed at the state of the industry I found a bunch of new hobbies and I am way happier and I try to get anyone I know to quit its not worth it


The internet

The videogames...

Both slowly dying because the masses got their hands on it.


Videogames these days are not so much made with passion but more for greed, which is why I'm not much of a videogamer these days. I still like videogames as I only play retro games that I play for the nostalgia and pure enjoyment I get from a videogame.


Most of the games i find good are fairly old or niche, theres a reason that indie games these days have higher ratings, a hat in time rivaled Mario odyssey, in my case, i miss good fish care games, all of the past good fish care games there use to be are now shut down or a unplayable corpse, now, i need to work up an interest so i play a game instead of looking at my computer.


One big problem with modern games is the "dead game" narrative a lot of people love to push on games that pass their peak or they stop playing. You kinda touched upon it at 10:07 but most developers can't keep up with what the player base wants (recent example being Fall Guys) that people will go onto Twitter and call it a "dead game". Modern gamers have been so spoilt by games like League of Legends which has an update every 2 weeks that when other games don't people lose interest and in their mind the game is now seen as "dead".

Here is the missing link to "Dead games" . Most of all new games are required to play online . Most of them are multiplayer games that are based on events and grinding which is depended on updates or the gamers reached a sudden stop in progress because they are at the end already with its content . And when the servers die out/shutdown then you have garbage files or a useless game disc that you wasted money on it.   Thats why the "Dead game"-debate is still going on.

Its not the game itsself that people play but more the gaming-trends that we follow . I mean how fast Fallguys was dropped as Among us suddenly came to the spotlight shows us some points that should be now concerning for everyone .

Its a throw-away-mentality that devalues old games/movies/books/music and overrated new things because of popularity and being new .

A game isn’t dead as long as a single soul out there is still playing it-<br>Big Joey and Tf2’s unfortunate community

A game isn’t dead as long as a single soul out there is still playing it-
Big Joey and Tf2’s unfortunate community

@MattTheHuman<br>Foekoe did a nice video on how stupid they think the dead game debates are.

@MattTheHuman
Foekoe did a nice video on how stupid they think the dead game debates are.

I love how people call TF2 “dead” despite pulling the biggest playerbase on Steam

@SteelyMan's Hermit Funkclub The problem with memes is that they went from "inside jokes" you see every once in awhile to "mainstream jokes" you may literally see 5 times in 1 minute.

Dead game after like 2 weeks

Damn God bless these people don't find about fighting games

@SteelyMan's Hermit Funkclub no because it's the exact opposite. While some games life cycles are too slow for people that they then consider "dead" memes life cycles are too fast because the humor catches on. Examples: "ok boomer"<br>Shaquil o'neal hot wings. Big brain markiplier.

@SteelyMan's Hermit Funkclub no because it's the exact opposite. While some games life cycles are too slow for people that they then consider "dead" memes life cycles are too fast because the humor catches on. Examples: "ok boomer"
Shaquil o'neal hot wings. Big brain markiplier.

I still play and enjoy Overwatch. Also, Rust as toxic as it is, is receiving more good regular updates than ever.


The only recent game I play right now is Dead by Daylight, and that's already five years old. I only play it together with my favourite mini streamer, playing it alone is tiresome because of the disgusting antisocial community, lazy devs doing a horrible job of fixing bugs and polishing the game, and the endless microtransactions. It's a very modern game in all the worst ways.

Aside of that I have gone back to Medieval 2 and its many outstanding mods. It's so old it doesn't even support 64 bit architecture or multiple cores at all, but I don't even crave a remake. It's great as it is. Gaming really has become "too much" these days. The VR market has a good bit of the old magic, but facebook is working mighty hard on dragging that magic into a dark alley, brutally tearing off its clothes and endlessly gently loving it at knifepoint until everything is just a blur and you just want it all to be over.


I was in high school back in 2003.. Games were freaking amazing all throughout my youth.  Now I just get bored with them so fast :/  Unless they're very original or a remaster of an old beloved game.

You were lucky to catch the tail end of the good games. I have been gaming since 1986. Things started pretty rough, cassettes were not fun but the period between the Amiga/Megadrive and the PS2 was amazing. It got better every year. Then it got much worse. I have not bought a new game for ten years, apart from universe sandbox and Duke Nukem 20th anniversary. PS3 was the last console I bought, now it is P.C/emulation on secondhand gaming laptops all the way.

Imagine paying 70 quid for a modern computer game that demands to update every three days and barely functions.


13:50 I think part of the issue is that people somehow think the world is supposed to be/ever is going to be perfect, free from sin, and with all people equal.

It's a noble goal to strive for a perfect world. However, humans must realize that they are not entitled to a perfect world, nor are they capable of bringing it about. Our history shows us that innovation in the field of science and technology only provides us more means by which to spread the very same barbarism that we've spread since the dawn of our species, yet through different and more catastrophic means.

Many people think they are supposed to be saviors, but they aren't. To do anything but try to correct perceived injustice is seen as morally deplorable inaction by those same people.


I’d argue that video games are better now then ever before, you just need to dig through a lot of garbage to find it


As an old subscriber from years ago, it makes me very happy to see emp getting the sweet, sweet traction he deserves. One of the best content creators on YouTube right here.


kingdom hearts 3 isnt that drastic, in fact it served well as a closure regardless of if it can top 2 or not cuz every person I know has it own favorite and I think every kh is good in its own way with its flaws and everything


Been playin Phantasy Star Online for the gamecube. Before that Runescape, Final Fantasy X, Mass Effect, Dark Souls 2 ohh and Fallout 3! Played that new Battlefront once and realized I won't buy a new game from here on out. It's truly sad to see where the gaming industry ended up. .


The only reason I would pick the 2000s and not the 2010s is because kotor is one of the best games ever made and I will fight to the death to defend that


I see what your saying about promotions and new games and stuff. But if you think about it these expectations are not made by the public there made by the company's because that company sells you a good good game you now have higher expectations for the next game and if you dont deliver that expectation then there the hate.


"We live in an age of impossible expectations,
everyone wants the best solution in the least amount of time, and anything less than that is considered a failure."
-EmpLemon, epic boi


Nostalgia. One word describing half of the video.


8:00 - No.. no it's not Minecrafts fault. Local multiplayer was dying a long death long before Minecraft hit the scene. You mentioned playing PS2 games in your childhood so this is going to be before your time but local multiplayer began dying in the mid 90s. PC Multiplayer was massive and when we started moving from IPX networked games to TCP/IP based ones with world wide server browsers it really took off alongside the massive explosion of internet access. You'll remember this started the trend of games being multiplayer only on PC. You also had console dipping their toes in the water. There was the X-Band for SNES and Genesis. I don't think the Saturn really used it's online much. The Dreamcast had 56k modem and an ethernet card expansion which started to be used for a more and more online multiplayer though local was still the focus though games like Phantasy Star Online were massive hits.

When we hit next generation the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox all had high speed internet options available for them (And PC was drowning in online games at this point.) and I'd say this is about the time that local multiplayer started to die off. The Xbox dominated the online space for consoles at that time and that online play pretty much cemented it's place in the market. PS2 didn't have as much online but you could still find a fair amount like Monster Hunter 1 and the Marvel games. Gamecube pretty much only used it's online for Phantasy Star Online VI+II and PSO3. (I remember at the time being very pissed to have bought a broadband adapter only to be able to use it less than I did on my Dreamcast.) I always found it a real shame that Four Swords Adventure, Crystal Cronicles, and Pac Man Vs. didn't have online gameplay options. Getting together four people together on the regular with GBAs in hand and cables all at once is a pretty big ask.

By the time you hit the next Gen PS3 and Xbox 360 have entirely transition to primarily online play and went significantly in the online marketplace direction. Wii pretty much steadfastly remained dedicated to local multiplayer and didn't offer very good online play experiences.

It's actually funny because we didn't really start getting local multiplayer back on PC until the indie booms on Steam. Personally, I love local multiplayer and co-op, but I really need to have both options to be happy. I don't want to buy a multiplayer focused game only for the blue-moon when I can get a game together. (I already have board games that do that. >.> )

Thank you, it's rare to see such a thorough comment like yours around here.


13:10 I love rewatching your stuff, but this part of the vid never sat right with me.

I really like that the political subtext of games is being taken more seriously these days. I understand that some people play games for escapism, but talking about why some aspect of a game is problematic or respecting it for making a political stance doesn't take away from the escapist nature. Those who want to turn their brain off and just enjoy playing a game can do so while other people analyze the heck out of it


Personally I agree with a lot of what you said, but I dont really understand your point with local play. All the new consoles like the ps4 and xbox1 have local play on one tv, and plenty of games that support that. Now I can play with friends online that arent with me, and we can play from our own houses. Also we use nintendo switches, which have plenty of local play games. I dont really see your point


There have been great games in the 2000s and the 2010s but like others have said, there is so much more volume of choices and coverage now its harder to find real gems and "average" games still sell more then enough to be profitable so why would companies try to make a love crafted gem when passable is good enough for the shareholders

Because we only have so much disposable income and time to throw around and at this point there's so many good games anything below an 8/10 isn't even worth our consideration.


I feel like Ross Scott (Accursed Farms) makes good videos on average, adequate games


Mmmh .. i think online multiplayer is a social miracle and my favorite video game memory's are on WoW


Well.. Here is the strange thing about online MP games.. It was not always like that. Online MP used to not be such a toxic pit... But I think overall part of the problem is the internet itself funny enough... At one point it really was not that bad.. But as time goes on, it shows more and more like its actually caused humans more problems than it was probably worth.

Honestly I think a funny thing is.. Eventually people will be saying this stuff about VR based games.. In terms of innovation and saturation.. and fatigue.. Though depending on how far that ends up reaching in innovations.. It.. Might be the one that could stay as something no one really gets tired of.. But I think that is a question more about humans at said point than the tech.


EmpLemon: Games have been on a downward spiral and have not been out preforming older games.<br>Doom 2016 and eternal: Am I a joke to you?

EmpLemon: Games have been on a downward spiral and have not been out preforming older games.
Doom 2016 and eternal: Am I a joke to you?


I love that this video starts with Emp praising an old, obscure sports game he found at a flea market. As a guy who collected every NHL video game on xbox 360, I totally relate. Amazing content as always.


And my friend who is a die hard Nintendo and WoW fan, wonders why in majority I play indie games...


2000 doesn't sound that bad, just that I have my indie favs in 2010


my issue with pokemon stems from the fact that despite not only being the highest grossing media franchise on the planet and being a system pusher for nintendo the newer games look like shit, the franchise refuses to grow with its audience, refuses to offer more choices to players like difficulty selection and the ability to turn things like EXP share off, and has now cut the dex of every new release for basically no reason. the last good games they made where Black and White (both the original and the sequel) and heart gold and soul silver.


the pokemon community vehemently criticizing temtem for being a ripoff when its in the process of giving them exactly the solutions theyve been complaining about in pokemon is an excellent example. ive never been so excited for a game and even though its in development and has issues the devs show how much they care about the game. seeing it get immediately written off by so many people was pretty heartbreaking

@SillierCrayon so far its a pokemon killer for me. Theyre trying with legends arceus but we'll see if i ever feel passionate about pokemon again after temtem

I'd say it was 50-50. either you thought it was a ripoff, or you thought (and hoped) it would be a Pokemon killer (basically impossible), or at least get GF to really pour their heart and soul (as much as a non-human can) into a Pokemon game for once.


I feel like it's more that in recent times the gems are absolute masterpieces, but we have more shit to sift through to find them. Almost every game Zealous hotheads on the internet would tell you is shit to be contrary, or say the fandom ruins is usually an absolute gem that they personally didn't have the patience for. I also really hate the sentiment that you can discredit a franchise based entirely off of its fandom. SammyClassicSonicFan does not prevent me from enjoying Sonic Mega Collection Plus, and if it stops you, you should maybe consider why you are letting the very thing you hate control the media you're allowed to enjoy.

@Doublechindoge 7 think about it every time people talk about "bad fandoms they are talking about literally 2 percent of the fanbase, when the internet was going crazy about rick and morty weirdos, think about how many fans are just regular people.

@stankorplank Oh really? I always had my suspicions but I never actually knew that since most of the SCSF stuff I see is memes and reuploads from different channels.

Well anyway, the point still stands, I mean I mainly just picked him as a funny example.

@Quade Evans Part of me wants to defend this, put part of me knows this may be a little <i>too</i> hot of a take.

@Quade Evans Part of me wants to defend this, put part of me knows this may be a little _too_ hot of a take.

@HIsForHacks bad fandoms dont exist,prove me wrong

Sammyclassicsonicfan is an internet persoa anyway. Thr main guy is/was a sketch comedy channel and scsf is one of them

Same goes for music. Tons of great new songs out there but unfortunately they're hidden beneath so much rubbish


I don’t know what I’m talking about, but this sounds suspiciously like the early 80’s, before Nintendo took off.


The year video games became about profit and not a good piece of work is the year it’s all been going downhill


Another factor you didn’t mention is the capturing of game critics. They give mediocre games extremely high praise just because they were made by big established developers and want to keep them friendly or risk being sidelined. So there’s no longer any risk for developers being punished by critics for putting out a shoddy product.


it has felt like games have been less and less fun


Games today focus only on graphics and become easier and simplified. And about Valve … I am a big Half-Life fan, but when you strive for greatness and releasing only “industry changing games” it’s your fault for lowering your standard even if that is for a good game. Of course people will be mad when they have been waiting 14 years for a sequel 😂 it is absurd.


Its gravity + sprites , the solid feel of a game engine...gta 4 vs the cheap gta 5 ,  <br>Seems they lack model memory because graphics is eating up ram + processor..

Its gravity + sprites , the solid feel of a game engine...gta 4 vs the cheap gta 5 ,
Seems they lack model memory because graphics is eating up ram + processor..


I feel like I have fallen out of "gaming", I used to play csgo and rainbow six with the cool kids but now I just find myself playing day of defeat classic because I don't care that it's a boomer shooter with completely dead servers it's just fun.


Just let me have my DarkSouls you can keep the rest.

Oh and the peak of 2000s gaming for me was me and 10-16 buddies all bringing a bunch of tvs and xboxes and controllers to one of our houses LANing them up and having HALO (COMBAT EVOLVED) PARTIES.

God damn I miss console LAN parties.


Here is an idea. "There will never be another video game like TF2"

It's true that there will never be another video game like Team Fortress 2.

That said, it's a broken and unbalanced mess. If you look deep enough, there may be a great game in there but it's just not worth it.

or half-life, actually, just valve as a whole

I want that vidoe. As much it's bit sad .

@Harry Sachz understandable have a great day

@SlingshotNerd then blame that on Valve not the game itself

Tf2 isn’t that great get over it.

STILL NO HEAVY UPDATE!!!!!


It’s sad that people pay for the same game every single year. It’s a shame.


2:40 he really snuck Raid: Shadow Legends in there 😂


I guess I'm just the odd one out, I love the games coming out recently I never feel bored, there is always something to do. I guess it helps that if I'm bored I can just code a game too.


The sound tracks in the thunder series tho 🔥🔥


Perhaps the best example of “Impossible Expectations” is how I saw about a billion ads for Stadia when it was about to come out, and then nobody gave a rats ass as soon as it did come out

I was against it to begin with, because I knew it wasn't possible for anyone who isn't on google fibre.


i just realized why i hate political narratives in video games. its because their is already so much of it and video games are a nice way of escaping from it and taking a break from the real world, well it used to be ....


so blame the fans, not the studios who choose take no risks?


Moveis, music and whatever other media has been on a downward spiral to me, thankfully there is a few gold here and there but it's not enough when compared to what we had before. We just get less quality products nowdays thanks to people mindlesly consuming products for their entertainment to pause their depression endlesly no matter how mediocre smth is and because of that we get more. Thanks folks, you're the reason we can't have nice things and why most people are stuck in the past, with games like TF2, nothing has topped that game since or MGS3 or Hotline Miami or hopefully you get the gist of it. But juuuuust in case we're all on the same page here and prefer classic aka old but gold games here's a few "modern" recommendations for y'all that's way too masterful to be ignored:

Bloodborne (DLC is a must)
Hotline Miami (both)
Fallout: New Vegas (The only good Bethesda game for me, probably because it wasn't made from Bethesda)
Uncharted (all 5)
Red Dead (all 3)
Resident Evil 8 (80$ well spent, i literally have 0 regrets, i love this game and re-played it WAY more than 7 which is also great, same with the RE2 remake, avoid the RE3 remake at all costs tho)
GTA IV (DLC is a must)
Call Of Duty: World At War (The only COD game i like)
Spider-Man PS4
Rayman Legends
Cuphead
Metal Gear Solid (4 for the story, 5 for the gameplay)
God Of War 3
Far Cry 3
Assassin's Creed (2/Brotherhood/Revelations/3)
WWE SmackDown VS Raw 2011
Portal 2

Online games :
Payday 2
Left 4 Dead 2
TF2
And ugh...i guess perhaps, maybe Dead By Daylight


Monster Hunter Rise gave me hope for the future of gaming.


Weirdly?
I've had the most fun with a 2005 title called Evil Genius. It completely changed my view on Simcity and other construction games....

Its incredible how much older games can really give you the most heartfelt experience.

I've played evil genius since i was a kid. I love that game. Here's hoping the sequel isnt a flop

if you like to try other old construction games try the anno franchise
i recommend to try anno 1404 or anno 2070 first. you can buy them on steam very cheaply


You can kill a digital man a million different ways, but you can’t make him live.


I know I'm a bit late here but I don't think de Blob is very fair to have at 10:38 or so, it was made by two dudes who'd go on to start up Ronimo Games, who would make Swords & Soldiers 1 and 2, and then later make the 2D moba Awesomenauts!


I used to love madden.. but the last madden game i actually liked was madden 2011


No mention of Skyrim? That came out in the 2010s and many consider it the most fun of the series


18:13 I actually like positive reviews of games more than negative ones, probably because it's easier to point out what makes a game bad but some reviews can make me think of games differently and appreciate parts of them I missed

I don't like when reviews knock all the effort that goes into a game, but I also don't like those reviews that just kiss a game's ass. My favorite kinds of reviews are ones that reveal hidden gems or are "Great, but can still improve".


While watching this video, and quite honestly I'm not sure why, but all that kept coming up in my mind was dr.seuss the lorax...

Great video as usual though Emperor Lemon


no man's sky didn't fail to meet peoples expectations, they lied about their own game


the issue is one specific genre. triple A games have gone bad fast. So many examples from every new CoD or battlefield, halo infinite, fallout 76 etc. However there are many good triple A's doom and doom eternal, no man's sky made a comeback as did D2, fallout 4 and others, but for the most part the larger more popular titles suck. Indie games have been pretty much untouched as they are trying harder to create a product people will actually like. For example Cuphead, hollow knight, undertale, Celeste, yakuza before Microsoft published it.

Related to aaa quality notice how many of those bad games had dlc or micro transactions tacked on. Well so did doom eternal, fallout 4 and d2. I believe that dlc is not inherently a bad thing. It gives the creators more time to implement ideas they might not have had or didn't have the money.

Long term support for a game is more important now which is why we pay for a game 2-3 times however the base game must be good for the price to be worth it. Therein lies the problem because game devs don't want to make good games they just want to make quick easy money. But when they sit down and make a well crafted experience I think it is completely justified to also have dlc.


i have spent over $2000 in my 12 years of gaming, but never more than $40 on a single game. asking $70 for less than 100 hours than entertainment is a joke... been playing indie releases almost exclusively for the last 4 years.


I dunno, 2020 gave us "Mr. Krabs overdoses on ketemine and dies." So I think that says something.

@Zyyrtt9 it is indeed but not one to be taken lightly either. It can really less with your head long term.

and house of caravans or whatever its called

pc is truly the master race due to modding content and good communities and lots more indie games

@Staringcorgi6 I just pray and hope that melee gets a better adaptation. I have some good homeboys I need to work up to the challenge. Just rise up to the streets, got the guts, and got the glory.

@Staringcorgi6 I just miss my star wars battlefront 2.

Indie games are great but kickstarter games always get the harsh treatment


I stopped gaming soon after graduating hs, not only because of the lack of friends but also because of a mix of frustrations, habits, and missing that sweet sweet deluxe local playing experience. I remember that being something I really really enjoyed, and while for a time, I was enamoured with MMOs I soon realized that not only has gaming grown from me, but I've grown from it. As a guy of this current generation (gen z) it definitely makes socializing more difficult (yo keep up, sometimes I still listen to gaming news) but I've always had difficulty relating with ppl so nm has changed tbh XD.


I think what people don't seem to quite grasp is the fact that "innovation" doesn't have to mean revolution or something completely new and original. It's even stated in this video at 22:44 and again at 22:53. When complete and utter revolution or huge technical or design leaps are increasingly rare or hard to come by, innovation can simply come in the form of "perfecting" what already exists and what is already good, pushing it forward each time. Another example is NASCAR 2004. It (at the time) perfected the NASCAR game by building upon and bettering what came before it, making sure every little element was just right. The reason why it stands out as one of the best NASCAR games of all time is not because the genre has nowhere else to go or video games just can't make technical or design leaps at the moment, it's because nobody tried to deliver what NASCAR 2004 delivered but better and more of it, they were just simply trying to make another NASCAR product.


most my favorite games have been from 2010s and i just don’t touch AAA, video games aren’t even bad. this is like acting as if coca-cola is the only soda manufacturer, then sure soda sucks universally


Modern devs/publishers just don’t understand/care why people got into video games in the first place.
Bungie understood it back when they made Halo “15 seconds of fun, let’s make an entire game like that.”

I’ll continue to play older games, and continue funding the boomer shooter revival.


Funny thing I see people saying that "oh can't run this game its too taxing"

That's why simple games are more successful because not everyone happens to have a nasa pc.

Chungus Con Queso Well of course it’s a compound reason-both are applicable.

@Xenado Well, I think that's because it was in the right place in the right time, as it's a way to hang out with your pals in quarantine.

That’s a reason why Among Us blew up in popularity


Great video except for No mans sky. Simon Murray lied about everything in the game, there promotional and in game material was a lie, and I my “hype” was caused by false promises. So no, the hype didn’t brake it, one mans lie did.


I never know when you are being serious or making a joke, and that is hilarious.


2011 was the last year a good game was made


I'm getting tired of gaming. maybe i just wanna be engineer now.

engineer ______

Then you get out there and make some turrets. Follow your dreams.

@Finn it was funny for like 5 seconds and then quickly died out.

@Prostagma? if it wasn’t funny then it wouldn’t have become a meme

@Prostagma?
Engineer gaming
Medic gaming
Heavy gaming
Scout gaming
Soldier gaming
Pyro gaming
Sniper gaming
Spy gaming
Demoman gaming

Why you guys arguing over a joke, making yourselves look even more of a joke than I am, chill.

@Prostagma? You might not find it funny but other people found it funny, so why stop them from enjoying it

@Steve Marcel that meme was never funny to begin with

@Prostagma? how dare people find fun in something thats old


Tho Nlg, the part at 4:41 looks so hilarious yet fun at the same time. I wonder what game that is. I think I would probably unironically love it lmfao.


Step 1: Download emulators
Step 2: Download ROMs for your emulators.
Optional Step 3: Buy a GPD Handheld to put those emulators on.
Step 4: Be happy.


MAYBE THESE GAME COMPANIES SHOULD ANNOUNCE THEIR GAME AFTER THEY RELEASED IT


I really understand the point of this videos, but belive me, if you know how to search for indies, there are a lot of lost jewels out there


I'm always impressed with your insights, Emp. I've been thinking the similar things on and off in recent years. I play games, watch game reviews, watch 1-2-3 hour long game design analysis videos, and then wonder why I feel so jaded... it's because I am.

It's high time I get away from gaming media. Thanks for the nudge.


2000s were beter for AAA titles and 2010s were beter for indie games.


An average card game was not the problem with artifact OR expectations of brilliance. We just didn't want a card game from fucking Valve...<br>It felt like they just wanted an easy cash grab instead of having to work on a game for a change.

An average card game was not the problem with artifact OR expectations of brilliance. We just didn't want a card game from fucking Valve...
It felt like they just wanted an easy cash grab instead of having to work on a game for a change.


Damn bro gamers are so oppressed that their only possible reprieve is a completely apolitical piece of fiction


15:08 it's still painful.  that's such a good game


13:18  This is why I have such a low tolerance for stressful games.  I play games to take a break from my stressful real life, with college and work and so on.  I dont want to spend my relaxation time getting even more stressed!  Tarkov being one of the biggest offenders.  If I wanted to feel like having an anxiety attack, I would go to work and get paid to do it.


You got me boppin my head with that TMNT Turtle's in Time OST.


I really like this channel but man, this one's FULL of spurious correlations


bruh when i saw kingdom hearts 3 i almost cried again... bigger disappointment then cyberpunk in my eyes.. i was so hyped for that game and they changed it all up, i never finished it


First they divided our multi-player, putting it online. Then they divided our politics and put them online. Now they divide us in person, and funnel it online. Next they will divide cuddling with our homies, and we shall not abide!


I do definitely feel like a lot of modern issues with AAA gaming a symptoms of not understanding what makes games good/what people really want in the past. Systems keep getting more and more graphically intensive, making the costs of consoles and producing games go up and up, making it less and less appealing to take risks, making it so that the games that didnt do well sales wise but were cult classics that brought long-time fans to your products are no longer economically viable, has caused a lot more problems than the benefits of greater graphics, especially when it feels like only 1 in every 12 games or so that have that super high graphical power actually make really good use of it.<br>I think what people want is more titles that are experimental, short and well polished, as well as more titles overall, at the cost of size and graphics, at least in my opinion.

I do definitely feel like a lot of modern issues with AAA gaming a symptoms of not understanding what makes games good/what people really want in the past. Systems keep getting more and more graphically intensive, making the costs of consoles and producing games go up and up, making it less and less appealing to take risks, making it so that the games that didnt do well sales wise but were cult classics that brought long-time fans to your products are no longer economically viable, has caused a lot more problems than the benefits of greater graphics, especially when it feels like only 1 in every 12 games or so that have that super high graphical power actually make really good use of it.
I think what people want is more titles that are experimental, short and well polished, as well as more titles overall, at the cost of size and graphics, at least in my opinion.

This should be pinned.

Regarding contemporary games, there are some I enjoy (Smash Ultimate, Flight Simulator X, and from what I’ve seen, the Xenoblade Chronicles series is pretty good too), but yeah, some of those games could have been better with less graphical processing power.

There are only two things in this video I may argue against to a degree:

1. It’s possible that the death of simple games is a result of the development teams that made those games moving to work on other projects.

And 2. Regarding local multiplayer, it may not be emphasized like online multiplayer is, but do games not have it as a setting  now? Is it not possible in these games?

One aspect of video games that is overlooked in some regards: I really enjoy the music produced for some contemporary games.

One of Lemon’s better videos.

What do you think, just curious.


Starting Morrowind today, thinking I should get the classics off the backlog first


legit can't wait for EmpLemon to talk about how FNF is undeserving of the spot it was given that would be fun to watch


A lot of these viewpoints are naive idealism. The console wars have existed for decades and SEGA's entire ad campaign was entirely based around bashing Nintendo. There have always been fanbases, and there have always been scummy business practices. Part of why video games feel so awful now is because you've grown up and can behind the facade.


You know what? Developers wouldn't do all the dlc expansion in game purchases if we didn't buy them


"it is absolutely vital that we dissect the socio economic themes of Shrek Swamp Kart" lmao

Sounds like you're going ogre board there.

Journalists be like "Do they have dreadlocks? Do they have big lips? Do they live in tribes? HMMM, MUST BE A TRIBE OF NI-"

@Aevvah_Flxwer You're right, they are not the same thing. Sorry, I think that I am not talking in clear way. It's my mistake, so I will stop annoying you...

@Tomy Dayos I know nothing about WoW 😅

But what I've seen in other fantasy media as that Orcs and Ogres aren't the same thing. But then again, the only fantasy franchise I know like the back of my hand is The Elder Scrolls, where these two races are very different. So I can't say 😂

Also Onions have layers. And Ogres have layers.

And nm the racist idiots. They're not worth anyone's time/attention.

@Tomy Dayos I know nothing about WoW 😅

But what I've seen in other fantasy media as that Orcs and Ogres aren't the same thing. But then again, the only fantasy franchise I know like the back of my hand is The Elder Scrolls, where these two races are *very* different. So I can't say 😂

Also Onions have layers. And Ogres have layers.

And nm the racist idiots. They're not worth anyone's time/attention.

@Aevvah_Flxwer I completely agree with you. And yes, they are different. I was just telling something that I remembered. Maybe it's because orcs and ogrees are allies in warcraft... I dunno...

@Tomy Dayos They're idiots then, and what they say doesn't matter (I mean, it does because yeah it's racist, and also doesn't because they and their opinion are all inane af)... -_-

Also, aren't Orcs and Ogres different creatures? They're not the same thing.

For some reason, I remembered that journalists where comparing Orcs to people of color. In both dungeon and dragons and lord of the rings. I think that those journalists must have a very racist vision of Africans...

Ogres these days cannot afford their own swamps.


its a complex and convoluted world nowadays, there is no changing it.


We need another game with thr hype or Minecraft and Fortnite


I think games suck now because we've all grown up and the experience is far from as magical to us as it was when we were young and carefree. Kids today have the same experience with whatever games they're enjoying and will look back on things the same. The only real thing that's substantially different is just how mainstreamed gaming has become. It truly is a multidimensional marketing thing. There's a significant amount of people who spend more time looking at other people playing a game than playing one themselves, for example, and most people do watch people stream even a little. And livestreaming is just a development from watching 'let's play' videos. So the difference is that gaming has been over-socialised, to the point where you know what people think of a game before you've even played it yourself. The magic to it is gone, as is the magic in virtually anything. You're not gonna be as surprised because your immersion is primed by other people and what they think, to the point where it feels like people would feel weird and ashamed to just walk into a store, buy a random game that looks interesting from the cover and just go home and play it the way we all used to before the over-socialising forces of the internet let us know all about it beforehand. And so gaming subcultures are dead, too, and with it all that made us ignorant and thus more prone to being properly curious and immersed.


Video games died the day the industry decided to abandon their core customers to appease Zoe Quinn and fellow pro grifter Anita Sarkeesian.


The biggest thing I've noticed more than anything is just how anti-social online gaming has become. Developers seem to be going out of their way to restrict player communication in any way they can. Destiny 2 is a great example. For a game that literally requires you to have at least 2 but usually 5 other players it is nearly impossible to communicate in game. You're forced to use an app or your phone or an unofficial 3rd party discord server to find others if you don't have 5 friends. Its just an unfortunate byproduct of video games becoming a multi billion dollar industry and just becoming more of a normie thing. You're not weird for playing video games anymore and I think video games are all the worse for it.

and thats why i dont do heists in gta online

I suddenly respect what thatgamecompany is doing a lot more. support-based multiplayer. Games meant to encourage communication and cooperation with others. I hadn't bothered to compare them to other games because it felt kinda different.

Call of duty used to have forced game chat and im pretty sure after COD Ghosts they took the feature out and Im pretty sure we know what happened to COD after that game.

@cao russo It's people with that attitude that did it. The woman responsible for how anti social destiny 2 is got called mean names in halo 2 once so now nobody gets to communicate in game unless you opt in to it.

That twitch deer that wanted to ban voice chat because make him is "offensive"


Me and my kids all got an XBox and GamePass, on the condition that they only play online with family and friends, and that they only buy a few games a year. We play PUBG and Rocket League and stuff, but always on the same team together.


I solve this problem by not buying anti-user games


"A film from 2982 is going to have significantly worse special effects than a movie in the present day."

John Carpenter's The Thing says "Hi."


Man this video and its comment section is filled with irrational nostalgiatard rose tinted glasses fanboyism of the past. Yes, a lot of MAINSTREAM games have become lackluster, but guess what? We have a thing called internet, which people post REVIEWS on. There are just as many quality games out there as there were back then, except now it's easier than ever to find out how good the games are before buying them.


I feel like Emps is generalizing way too much with his points. When he said how talking about the negative has become much more attractive than the positive or the mediocre he doesn't realize he's sorta falling into the same trap. His talking points apply for a limited selection of triple A mainstream games but is missing the rest of the industry. Gaming as a whole these days is far superior than  the past in my opinion. There's such a vast selection of games and hardware to play them on and for whatever you want you could find a game to fit that. Some triple A flops and toxic trends on social media shouldn't and doesn't define the whole industry.

Obviously gaming is better now, duh? That doesn't mean that there are now a lot of problems we're dealing that weren't there before

I don't think this is one of those videos where he just says "gaming is trash now, just play old games", there are several times In the video where he implies or states the oppposite

Triple A games on average are worse now, that's a reality, a triple A being good now is a rarity and usually happens when one of the studios they have are allowed to make a game they're passionate about like the newest god of war, but most of the time, they're not, why trust 1 studio to make a "miracle happen" in their eyes when you can just make a shit ton of games and fill them with a bunch of money-generating features to the point you don't even have to care about good sales but just loyal whales

Triple A companies back then wanted to make money just as much as they do now, but now the way they can make money has made it so they don't have to actually make great games to make lots of money, that simple (Microtransactions and any way other way you can think of making extra)

Before: To make some money, make a mediocre game, to make the MOST money (What you want as a company) make a great game

Now: Make multiple mediocre or awful games, pump em' full of money generating methods, and hope you can brainwash people to keep buying your trash

Before, game companies had few ways of making MORE money after they had already released a game, they could only do things like merch or other stuff outside of the game

Now the game itself can make MORE money than just through sales

Thief 1 and 2 were so early on that I never heard of them but I played them within the last 4 years and they were the best games I've ever played.

Shadow warrior from the 90s is one of the best fps games I've played and I didn't it play it more than 5 years ago

Old games were just better, better focus on fun, Story, game design, meanwhile today games are overall expected to be crap and disappointment.

Jason Ling “Slightly overpowered weapon”<br>...*laughs in 725*

Jason Ling “Slightly overpowered weapon”
...*laughs in 725*

There's better games than there ever have been. Games are always improving. In the 1980s, what was the best you could do for a fiver; Grange Hill on the Speccy? That's about 15 quid in today's money, so the comparison is easy. A Short Hike costs 8, Lenna's Inception is a full fledged Zelda em' Up for a tenner, same with Odd Realm and I could quantify countless more.

There's better games than there ever have been. Games are always improving. In the 1980s, what was the best you could do for a fiver; Grange Hill on the Speccy? That's about 15 quid in today's money, so the comparison is easy. _A Short Hike_ costs 8, _Lenna's Inception_ is a full fledged Zelda em' Up for a tenner, same with _Odd Realm_ and I could quantify countless more.

@Gunswinger Yeah i can see why people would think that people are more bitter nowadays, but you have to keep in mind stuff like wm2 multiplayer lobbys which were the most toxic childish bs you could find.

He is taking the public opinion into account

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) You're right, it doesn't compare, but neither do old games next to candy crush. If you're gonna compare triple A titles, compare triple A titles, but it seems like the generalization just muddies the message. I definitely agree with his point about reviewer culture and having your opinion be based on opinions, it seems like some of his points were either a bit late, a little off the mark, or kind of generalizing. That being said, most of his points are legitimate criticisms of the last 10 years of games<br>(EDIT:When I say they don't compare, old games are enormously better)

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) You're right, it doesn't compare, but neither do old games next to candy crush. If you're gonna compare triple A titles, compare triple A titles, but it seems like the generalization just muddies the message. I definitely agree with his point about reviewer culture and having your opinion be based on opinions, it seems like some of his points were either a bit late, a little off the mark, or kind of generalizing. That being said, most of his points are legitimate criticisms of the last 10 years of games
(EDIT:When I say they don't compare, old games are enormously better)

He has to generalise his points it’s litterally 20+ years of history he’s referring to and can’t go through thousands of examples

@Meme Sampler I don't wish to bring a red herring but a simple mobile game like Candy Crush is not comparable with much bigger games such as Bioshock or even any Mario game.

@Meme Sampler I don't wish to bring a red herring but a simple mobile game like _Candy Crush_ is not comparable with much bigger games such as _Bioshock_ or even any _Mario_ game.

@Gunswinger You should blame him for thinking this way, you can't complain about social media giving everyone a negativity bias and then fail to see that you are enciting it yourself.
he even adresses it in the outro, but emp has access to the analytics, he should know that if you put something like that at the end of the video only like half of the viewers will see it.

@Gunswinger You should blame him for thinking this way, you can't complain about social media giving everyone a negativity bias and then fail to see that you are enciting it yourself.
he even adresses it in the outro, but emp has access to the analytics, he should know that if you put something like that at the *end* of the video only like half of the viewers will see it.

Yeah, exactly, it seemed like a bit of a generalization. Theres so much variety, even in this time frame, you got new vegas and fallout 76 in the same span of time. It also doesnt account for the numerous amount of games that are just free now, that eliminate the need to shell out 60 bucks for the same shit, besides the odd sportsball call of halo. Its just strange seeing emp take such a general approach to this kinda thing

@Gunswinger damn shame it is. Main reason I despise E-Sports scene. They’re what ruined games, not developers

When you said "Gaming as a whole these days are far superior", you were also generalizing too much there, so you've also fell into the same trap. There will always be a pile of trash in every industry, and there will be bad practices that will still continue or even will get worse if left unseen, so we should take that into consideration in tackling that point. I'm not defending Emps perception on this, but we will always tend to generalize things because our mind always like simple things, so keep that in mind.

Anyways, Have a good day!

@Joshua Bennett Well said, people just sweat so much more these days. Feels like every multiplayer game needs to be an esport now.

@Gunswinger gamers are also more competitive nowadays. Look back at most older games and they were unbalanced to the bone. But people still enjoyed them because competitive nature wasn’t a thing back then. I.E. it’s our fault not the games

@Gunswinger I doubt giving up social media would eliminate mediocre games with microtransactions. That's still a problem from the people running the companies.

@Gunswinger  just a few minutes ago I thought about a scenario where a group of 'hackers' disabled all social media und kept it sealed away only unlocking it when people become less toxic again. I wonder if people could ever get their social media back again. I doubt it.

I can't really blame him for thinking this way, gaming and gamers just feel (feel, not are) more bitter than before. Social media gives everyone a voice and its not always a good thing. Take for example, MW2019 was a damn good reboot of the cod franchise but every little nerf, slightly overpowered weapon or camper makes people go online and cry about it saying its the worst cod since x... It doesn't feel like people have fun anymore. It's very likely not fact, but the impression remains.


Last 10 years we had BOTW, God of War, Persona 5, Mario Odyssey, Red Dead 2, Insomniac' Spider-Man, FF7 Remake, Smash Ultimate, Mario Kart 8, Witcher 3...I'll stick to 2010s. That's not to say 2000s didn't have some absolutely amazing games but come on, games these days are still mind blowing.


please EmpLempn, make a video on TF2. It is in a dire state


10:04 have you looked at the graph? Most of the growth is in mobile but you seem to be only focusing on PC and console games . This renders all of following arguments pointless


You know what's worse?

When games become so bland that you'll rather spend a few hours reading a manual for a flight sim than this so-called "gaming"

I would kill to have a manual to read -- any manual -- when I have to wait for a game to boot or load because loading times can get ridiculous nowadays. Sadly the number of manuals, let alone good manuals, released after 2010 can be counted in a single hand.


Fr the only games I’ve been playing lately are left 4 dead, castle crashers, Mario karts and the touhou games. They’re all simple but work so well as games


The problem is that the hobby has become mainstream.


Just compare it to normal games. We don't look for the newest card and tabletop games every year. We go back to Poker or monopoly or tik tak to or cluedo or so one. These games often don't need remakes or redoes since the original works perfectly. Maybe video games are like this. Maybe they aren't meant to be released at a high rate every year forever. Maybe we can just go back to games released years ago that we are familiar with or not. I believe studios either release the same games because consumers feel like playing the better version of their games or studios release the biggest games ever with impossible expectations in order for consumers to get that new innovative experience through a game they'll probably forget about in the coming years because a new big game will release. <br>Not saying that we've reached the end of videogame creation, there will always be new videogames just like there will always be new games. However, the rate of videogame releases is at an all time high and maybe it should actually start to slow down.

Just compare it to normal games. We don't look for the newest card and tabletop games every year. We go back to Poker or monopoly or tik tak to or cluedo or so one. These games often don't need remakes or redoes since the original works perfectly. Maybe video games are like this. Maybe they aren't meant to be released at a high rate every year forever. Maybe we can just go back to games released years ago that we are familiar with or not. I believe studios either release the same games because consumers feel like playing the better version of their games or studios release the biggest games ever with impossible expectations in order for consumers to get that new innovative experience through a game they'll probably forget about in the coming years because a new big game will release.
Not saying that we've reached the end of videogame creation, there will always be new videogames just like there will always be new games. However, the rate of videogame releases is at an all time high and maybe it should actually start to slow down.


Man. I was really hoping Back 4 Blood wouldn't end up like this...


Honestly, I feel like this video should have been called "Has AAA Gaming been on a Downward Spiral?". I was dumbfounded when you first brought up Minecraft and did not mention at all its indie background, the consumer-friendly services (allowing for mods, letting people with pirated versions play in "Non Premium" servers...) and the fact that its growth was so big it was acknowledged by one of the big three companies in the console run, Microsoft, which bought Mojang for 2.5 Billion Dollars. They have recently bought Bethesda, which has games as big as Elder Scrolls, Fallout and DOOM, for 7.5 Billion Dollars; so for them to make a comparetively smaller but yet huge investment in a small indie company meant that AAA Companies and Indie Companies were closer in this environment than people truly thought.

While it is true that AAA practices have gotten worse and worse which every passing year, Independent developers have surged dramatically and are now a huge part of the gaming landscape. You mention the "Simple Game", a smaller, medium-scale videogame with no intentions in being a block-buster hit and instead being a purely fun experience made with love from the developers. Even though the biggest companies don't interact with these kind of things due to how expensive it's getting every year to make a videogame, indie games are covering that exact same market. If you look deep enough, you will find those replacements for Burnout 3 and NASCAR Racing that EA refuses to give you anymore.

Gaming getting bigger does not only mean the game gets bigger, rather the medium has grown to so many places and is now capable of more things in different parts that if we just look at the biggest releases it means you are just staring at the tip of the iceberg. I don't think people are "tired" of videogames in general, moreso exhausted by the monotony of some of the biggest releases, but even then we can get some great games: I feel like Sony's first party output for this generation, with games like God Of War, Marvel's Spider-Man and Bloodborne has been pretty great and they represent a small beacon of hope in the middle of so many Madden games and GAAS garbage like Anthem. Hell, even Nintendo themselves looked at Minecraft to create the newest Zelda, Breath of the Wild, and it has become one of the most critically acclaimed videogames of all time.

I feel like this video covers such a narrow and selective view of gaming that it doesn't really let the viewer really get their own opinions on the subject. You constantly show games like Mass Effect Andormeda and Duke Nukem Forever: games that, even though represent major failures in the industry, have been let go by now and are simply dark memories of the past, and many people don't feel like dwelling on them for too much because they came out the same year as many other great games. Duke Nukem came out on 2011, the same year Portal 2, Dark Souls, Bastion and Dead Space 2  came out; and Mass Effect came out on 2017, the year of Super Mario Oddyssey, Cuphead, Crash N'Sane Trilogy, Nier Automata and, of course, Breath of the Wild. There is definetly a negativity bias in the gaming world that is polluting so many people's minds with opinions before gameplay (The phrase "Everyone wants the best solution in the least amount of time and anything less than that is considered a failure" really stood out for me) but at the end of the day people tend to remember the good games before the bad games, and those are the ones celebrated with the passage of time. I could make some other nitpicks on your video, like how you are comparing brand new Pokemon games being repetitive to fans to remakes and remasters that people already acknowledge are the same game, but I feel like my feelings on it has been covered with this mucho texto. Videogames are not on a Downward Spiral: you are just not looking deep enough.

Its just the "its cool to hate on anything" negativity movement. It brings clicks. Theres a lot of great newer titles past 2010. i personally couldnt choose. Even though I only think of PC. Just fully console exclusive, I would pick the 2000s anyday too. But overall PC Gaming especially has seen many gems.
But you can see AAA game development is not longer love driven and developed by nerds but money driven developed by people just doing their Jobs.
The nerds were pushed out of gaming basically.

@JACK PALERMO Fair enough mate good on you

@JACK PALERMO It's funny how bitter of a place this comment seems to come from.

I think this comment was not necessary. He is not downplaying minecraft. He is saying that minecraft was the main reason for the radical shift in gaming. He was sticking to his point. But it sounds like you want him to belly flop into a minecraft positive review.

"Not looking deep enough" that's the problem this problem is getting worse and worse over time and you keep saying that as an excuse.

May not agree with it entirely but I find this point of view is pretty interesting and really cool.

This covers what i was trying to say in a recent comment.

@D Zuke not really an accurate statement. Microtransactions were popularised by MMOs back in the 2000s. Anyone who was into MMOs back then could vouch for how bad it was (especially Korean MMOs). Some were blatant P2Ws. Nowadays you see it more because people finally realised there's a market for live service gaming outside of MMOs.

Anyone that thinks all modern AAA games are awful nowadays needs to play Doom Eternal. The craziest part about that game is the fact that it has a AAA budget.

This is the video Emp wanted to make
https://youtu.be/IYkLVU5UGM8
But couldn't because of his mind prison to "new things bad, old things good"

This is the video Emp *wanted* to make
https://youtu.be/IYkLVU5UGM8
But couldn't because of his mind prison to "new things bad, old things good"

@Local Elder God <br>Yes and still haven't read this shit lol

@Local Elder God
Yes and still haven't read this shit lol

@Edler Krieger and yet you took the time to comment anyway...

Huh, is mucho texto meme also popular in non-spanish speaking countries?

Video games are on an upward spiral. They are getting better and better and financially the game industry is still growing.<br>There will be far more garbage per capita of course but gamers flock to high scores on metacritic to solve that issue.

Video games are on an upward spiral. They are getting better and better and financially the game industry is still growing.
There will be far more garbage per capita of course but gamers flock to high scores on metacritic to solve that issue.

This 100% summarises my thoughts on this video. And also some of the logical leaps made here are, to be honest, very poor. example: Minecraft is the reason so many games focus on multiplayer... really??

This feels like a video essay about some vague feelings Emp had about gaming but stretching it out to 27 minutes without doing any actual research. I honestly don't disagree with the premise of this video but the amount of misinformation on the way there makes it hard to watch.


You’re wrong about two parts here.

12:18 - Videogamedunkey

Dunkey did not stop playing League of Legends because of burnout due to losses, he quit the game due to what he felt was continuous disregard and disrespect for all the content, work, and love he put into for creating content around the game. If I recall correctly, I believe this after he was given a temporary ban for quote “misconduct” when it appeared he just had a target on his back.

14:51 - No Man’s Sky
No Man’s Sky wasn’t destroyed because it was just simply a lackluster game. The company and creators behind the game openly LIED about features of the game. They stated that multiplayer was possible on launch just that the game was just so massive players would never run into each other. Within the first few DAYS two players on Reddit went to the same place, at the same time, and were unable to find each other.

This post will be edited because I am on mobile and can’t type while looking for time stamps.

You’re wrong about two parts here.

12:18 - Videogamedunkey

Dunkey did not stop playing League of Legends because of burnout due to losses, he quit the game due to what he felt was continuous disregard and disrespect for all the content, work, and love he put into for creating content around the game. If I recall correctly, I believe this after he was given a temporary ban for quote “misconduct” when it appeared he just had a target on his back.

14:51 - No Man’s Sky
No Man’s Sky wasn’t destroyed because it was just simply a lackluster game. The company and creators behind the game openly LIED about features of the game. They stated that multiplayer was possible on launch just that the game was just so massive players would never run into each other. Within the first few DAYS two players on Reddit went to the same place, at the same time, and were unable to find each other.

*This post will be edited because I am on mobile and can’t type while looking for time stamps.*


tbh i think part of the reason this decade of gaming has been so bad is because no one has set any standards. in the 1990's sonic set the standards for that entire decade, and in 2000's valve set the standard but in this decade there has been no company to set standards thus game quality has been all over the place.

@Matanui note i said "part of the reason"

The standard being set? Post game development and getting more money from a game already bought. Also mobile gaming and gotcha mechanics


i used to play most of my games without ever knowing people were making videos about how bad they are so when i found a great channel who talks about call of duty advanced warfare my favorite game at the time it no longer became my favorite game and it put me into a downward spiral where i never play any games that seem bad because this guy would say its bad even if i played that game and thought it was good before hand and i hate myself for it and it ruined ever trying out new games

Man that makes no sense. It's totally normal to like bad games as well disliking good games just because of your preferences. There's nothing wrong with it, if you liked or had great memories with it's alright


Nice nostalgia rant

I will give credit where it’s due though, handheld gaming has immensely deteriorated with mobile games.


Honestly my favorite game I've played this year was a game from 2004 that practcally no one knows. A big part of why I love it is definitely the game itself but with how unknown it was and the mystery surrounding it, it kinda made it more special to me. The game is Technic Beat, its a Rhythm game with puzzle-like elements, the soundtrack rocks, please look it up i want it to be more well known despite everything I said before.


I agree with most points but the whole rant about how video games should be escapism sounds like you’re just perpetually online. Its almost too easy to avoid if you arent on social media too much. Only reason I really engage with it is because I choose to and go out of my way to do so.


Late 90s and early 2000s had the best games, especially racing games.....only modern racing game I like is Wreckfest. 7th gen was the last great gen for gaming....but by then, racing games were not as good, but shooters were still great on PS3 and 360..... exception is racing on GTA IV.... although extremely limited, I had more fun racing on there than any other game.


Man, you know what I DONT want to watch now?  How EA and licensing has basically ruined several sport franchise games for over a decade…A MONTH AWAY FROM FORMULA 1’S FIRST EA GAME.

man, I really don’t want to be stuck with unlicensed modded versions of F1 cars as the only playable games.


I'm making this comment early in the video, this kind of goes in hand with the video card market crash . It seems to me like There's no real use in buying a $1000 GPU if you're just gonna play crappier "AAA" games, faster, with higher frames.


...This video made me realize that the only gaming related thing that really "WOW"ed me in the past 5 years is Virtual Reality.

For me it was two games, first one is a Cyberpunk. For my entire life I've played on PC, that had 512MB VRAM GPU. And I am one of those kids, that love graphics. I understand, that it's not the most important factor, but hell, let's be honest, the first thing you feel, at the very start of any game - it's graphics. And with Cyberpunk, I had absolutely fallen in love with it's graphics, atmosphere of hopeless neighborhoods, that so much resemble my own one, but with neon, the plot, that is really good, if you will complete all the side quests ( I've completed  the game three times, currently doing fourth one, and with all honesty, the plot without side quests feels a lot more hollow). And second time it was with Microsoft Flight Simulator. Yeah, it's kinda stupid, but it was really unique to see my house in the game. But the real "wooaahh...." effect was when I had saw sunset in the Africa, whilst flying to Entebbe. That feeling of freedom, happiness, independence, especially in the situation, when sometimes you can't even live until paycheck without earning any debts - it's just felt magical. And I feel really sad for both these games, because of theirs technical problems. I can totally realize, why some people dislike them, and I'm not blaming them, but man, it's just unfair, that some five, or six sequel to the game has no technical problems, whilst such an ambitious projects end up in this state. What a horrible world we live in

@Star Centurion There are plenty of non VR games I've played that released in past 5 years that I've enjoyed but as the days go by, it's hard for me to remember what's coming out that I'm highly anticipating. I think the only game I had been waiting for/anticipating release for was Persona 5 Strikers. I was semi excited for Cyberpunk 2077 but (as stupid as this term sounds) my gamer instincts kicked in and I told myself to wait on it. Glad I did.

@MrCrossa I'm probably only still playing video games because of VR (proper VR). Hell, the only reason I have my current job is because of VR. I love the tech.

@X&Y Gaming I was talking about "proper" VR (I have the HTC vive) but I also have the Labo VR kit.

Not nearly on the same level as PC VR or PSVR but labo is still pretty good at what it does for the price.

VR on PC has wowed me by not only from its new experiences, but also being able to replay classics from a whole new perspective (favorite example being Minecraft with the vivecraft mod installed) you really don't get a good idea on how big everything in minecraft is until you try it. Blocks are a little over half my height, endermen completely tower over me (and yes, they do become hostile if you physically look them in the eyes) and it's just cool as shit to look at stuff me and my friends built at a 1:1 scale.

As pixelated as it was, BotW in VR was amazing...


Diablo 2, Starcraft....etc those were the days.


tbh its just the lack of story based content, and the aim for genericism. Like not many AAA titles have new ideas, you only see it from indie companies who dont have the time or money to make a significant amount of content. And I guess we were bound to reach the border eventually in terms of new ideas, but it still sucks.


There will never ever be a dev team like the Adams Brothers

Dwarf

Fortress


calling for the future<br>at least halo had jumped back and is now having a good game

calling for the future
at least halo had jumped back and is now having a good game


Ya know emp, out of the countless years I’ve spent browsing this Website, you’re the best Channel I’ve seen, I first saw you with your unincredibles, and half a decade ago to now  you have completely changed and learned to maintain your audience. You deserve every bit of credit given to you. Great video.


This vid is so right! I am playing Final Fantasy X AND IT IS FUCKING INCREDIBLE


Poker Night at the Inventory and Poker Night 2 were some of my favorite simple games, and they'll never come back


The only game i really e enjoyed in the 2010s was red dead redemption 2 it was really fun


100% facts but you gotta admit, the woohoo mod just doesn't hit the same in sims 3 as in sims 4


I'm sorry but I feel like this all comes from the lens of someone who hasn't scrolled for three seconds down the steam front page. The "simple game" market is unbelievably flooded, not just flooded with games, but flooded with great games. Just because there's four giants out there making irrelevant shooters and terrible sports games doesn't mean videogames are declining.

Just because there's many great games still doesn't mean there's not many games with predatory practices as well.

Something should be done about those games, they're purposely designed to be addictive.

Portal 1 still hits different, prob cuz first steam game

Yeah, just look at the top 5 highest rated games on steam and you'll see just two games from big developers. The other three are either from a smaller team or straight up an indie game. The people like the games that innovate or just do something different. Stardew valley, was a spiritual successor to harvest moon but was mostly better in every way. Terraria, took Minecraft's concept and overhauled everything to the point where the literally had to stop. Factorio, never played it, probably should. Portal 2, portal 1... but better. And the witcher 3, just a really good open world game with good combat and an actual story unlike some open world games. This just means that the people want games that truly innovate and don't want crappy FIFA 21 and madden 19s because well... they're just not good.

@Amiibo Porter Bridges The trick is searching for it and not overstaying where you're not having fun.
The renaissance could happen anytime; we just gotta be aware enough to actually find and play what we want.

@Amiibo Porter Bridges The trick is _searching for it_ and _not overstaying where you're not having fun._
The renaissance could happen anytime; we just gotta be aware enough to actually find and play what we want.

@Dizzy Daisy I did, I understand he's optimistic for the future but what I see right now is that it's good, like, right now. If you have a game type you want it's probably out there.

...you didn't watch to the end of the video, did you?

Yeah.
People don't really realise because they just keep looking at the companies that once released the best games and by now are long completely jaded and gone bad.

Which makes the completely miss that we are currently getting more truly good games than we have been  in a very very long time.

Old companies die and new ones take their place.
The only reason they aren't dead yet is because of these people that keep buying their crappy games thinking "maybe this one will be as good as the ones I played as a kid"


This video is more important than people realize.


I would give up everything to play the original club penguin again, damn you disney


MX Unleashed, Twisted Metal, Tenchu, Star Wars Battlefront, NASCAR Thunder, so many classics… what happened?


Gamers as a single group. Yep. As for me, I tend to stick with games I know like Pokemon, Fire Emblem and Minecraft. I don't really bother with online gaming except for Showdown because I have limited internet.


Way more fun playing SNES games than PS5 or Xbox X most of the time.


So how do we fight back? Simply play indie game cause they are actually fun and cheap.


10:38 De Blob is a masterpiece and you can’t say otherwise

Haven't played the first but I played a bit of the second and It's not bad.

Yessss I still absolutely love this game, played it with my musician friends all night back in high school and the improv jazzy music mechanic made it endlessly entertaining

I haven't played it, but I used to have the sequel. It was pretty good.


No Mans Sky is really fun<br>Even if the kids in my basement say that its overrated and stupid

No Mans Sky is really fun
Even if the kids in my basement say that its overrated and stupid