My only issue with this is the comment about the DS's local wifi being the peak of local multiplayer gaming and handheld gaming, and it's only because of how limited an experience this was depending on your location and circumstances.

I always remembered the DS as something that should have been great but never was mostly because these features simply were never used when I was growing up. There was never anyone around with them.


It's crazy to me, I remember being in elementary/middle school watching his YTP with my friends, and we would pee ourselves. Now I'm in college, and he is making well-informed video essays, it just amazes me how time flies and people change.

@User ????

How the hell is it nostalgia bait content?

@Richard Savolainen nostalgia bait content

@Doom58 look up the channel ranton, he has some of the best shit on this platform. He does game reviews with fucking insane edits. He was also a former shoalin monk and has videos about that as well.

@Richard Savolainen yeah i like his videos but it sucks that's the only content on this site that's worth watching nowadays, better than 2 years ago when there was literally nothing.

@Doom58 I think Act man makes pretty good content

@Hunter McNeil they populate 99% of good content now

@Doom58 why are video essays a bad thing?

Same except I was in elementary too bad almost all good channels now are pretty much only video essays, no animators or skits that last more than 30 seconds or just about any other content really.


It's a shame that sports games are as stale as they are. In theory they could be pushed really far and be really cool


I feel like as a society we need a really good movie that doesn't make us feel good... Or send a good message. But rather calls us on our shit and shows us how we are giving us all a good wake up call.


There was definitely a higher focus on gameplay in the ps2 era. Now its just copy and paste. There used to be alot more originality. Could be higher development costs. I would prefer average graphics and fun gameplay: deus ex, mgs1, half life 1 and 2.


13:02 yeah lets go back to the nonpolitical days with games like Bioshock, Fallout 3, and FF7!

@Liam McNicholas And Bioshock doesn’t virtue signal to leftists by being a critic of conservative values of American exceptionalism? There’s a great hbomberguy vid on why the term is bullshit https://youtu.be/sAmM872874A

2016 gamer mindset be like:

random black dude in the main story: political

a cutscene of a foreign soldier torturing a man and his family: not political

I mean, having games discuss issues of importance is great, but some games just virtue signal


It's worth mentioning that bargain bin shovelware moved from the PS2 and Wii over to the app store, which is why you don't see them anymore.

it's still on the switch store partially


Over saturation is probably the single most damning factor in the quality of games. There's too many damn games to compete with. Good games still come out, with steam refunds there is no reason you cant find them outside of not wanting to sift through the garbage.

The second biggest factor is probably just the age of the player, games just become less fun with time, you lose your childhood friends with time, money is better spent elsewhere with time.

The classics are always gonna be there when the nostalgia runs through your brain, you dont need to pick up new games. There are a billion other hobbies to suit your life after gaming.


I never saw a single review or video on the Ace Combat series. I had heard the name in passing. One day I saw Ace Combat 7 on Steam for sale, and I picked it up. It was brilliant, fun, and I still play it to this day.
It was a game released in 2019 and told a great story, had great music, and made me excited to see a new game from Project Aces in the future.

Sometimes it's best to avoid hype trains.

@Connor O'Brien I finished all 3 a few months ago. Zero's finale was fucking incredible lol.
I enjoyed them all and hope to return to them again. Kinda wishing we'd get a rerelease but I'll play however I can.
Got the entire soundtrack, too. All of it's great.

If you liked 7, get 4 5 and zero. They are just for ps2 but they are considered the peak of the franchise. And the story isn't batshit insane


The online only multiplayer boom set us on this path towards loot boxes, profit margins, and regurgitating IP’s


Every time I hear anything about Midnight Club I get so nostalgic... Nobody talks about that game as much as they need to.


Honestly, most of the issues presented on this video could be avoided by simply staying away from places like /v/ and Reddit. It's easy to lose faith on vidya when all you see are complaints and anti-consumer practices everywhere.
Part of the big problem with the current AAA market is that better technology means higher development costs, which leads to things like horrible work ethics, cutting corners, stupidly tight deadlines and such, making and advertising games is super expensive, which is why we keep seeing games playing it safe and little to no risk taking from the big players.
The entire video is pretty much people being disappointed by AAA companies practices, the same shit happens in the movie industry and the music industry, just stop looking at the flashy advertisements and actually look deeper into your hobby if you want to find things you enjoy.

@Prakhar Sinha you play Nintendo and don’t see how video games are getting worse? It’s 2020 and they still can’t make functional online in any of their games

While it is true that good games will always exist no matter the time, and that terrible games were just as frequent back then. One thing that is true is that the industry used to be way more consumer friendly. I rarely indulge in AAA gaming nowadays because i can't be bothered with incomplete games or forced multiplayer.

@dbfx AAA titles generally have hundreds of developers working on them at once, which is extremely expensive. Marketing is more important now than it ever has been in the videogame industry, which is also extremely expensive, more so than it ever has been. Most AAA titles basically require multiplayer to sell anything, which requires servers, people to maintain those servers, and people to handle customer support. There are so many things I could get into, but the bottom line is that accessibility doesn't make things cheaper. Just because the bar for entry is lower, doesn't mean it doesn't require significantly more money than it used to.

Yeah 4chan and 8chan (RIP) are toxic.  That's why I go to StormFront, instead.  The mainstream media doesn't seem to care about StormFront and that's because it's full of happiness and kindness.

/v/

Literally the first things that came up to my mind when he said "the general consensus", like a bunch of anonymous idiots on a imageboard are the general consensus.

@Ethereal I will say it's a less funny/wacky game for sure and has alot less features.

Higher development costs are the result of massive bloat. As he addressed, games today cant just be simple fun experiences, they have to have the best graphics and all the game features possible, this increases complexity and dev time. Higher costs also do NOT justify consumer hostile practices and overt monetization.

Yes, in a bubble with no comparison new games are not bad, but we dont live in a bubble, we live in the real world, where we have decades of games to look back on and say "these new games dont really measure up".

anti-consumer practices ARE everywhere in AAA games tho

@D Gam I don't understand what you're trying to say. If I went to a bar to survey how often people drank it wouldn't be "impressive" to say that the majority of the people in the bar drink regularly. It's biased sampling through and through. Not saying he needs to structure it like an experiment, but he should've at least acknowledged that his polling would be biased like he did in his Why you Should Like Dislikes video.

His poll had nothing to do with creativity and technology.

@Ethereal i understand why he was impressed with the survey since games where supposed to get better, too bad creativity doesnt scale with technology

I think the problem is a lot simpler than it’s generally made out to be; games aren’t necessarily on a “downward spiral” and have more or less always been like this, but like everything else, the Internet age divides it into two extremities and makes it seem much more pronounced than it actually is.

A lot of the problems with Emp's video is that he doesn't acknowledge that nostalgia plays into how people perceive games getting worse. It's so easy to say GTA: SA is better than GTA V if you look through the past through rose-tinted glasses. Also, the beginning of his video where he surveys half of his audience to see if they prefer recent games or newer games is super flawed. Not only does he ignore that 55% of people that prefer to play games from the 2010s, but his poll is also inherently biased*. I don't know his analytics, but I can assume that the majority of people that watch his videos are people who grew up in the late 90s and the early to mid-2000s (both from the comments on this video and other videos). It's super biased and he completely disregards that as an influence for his poll.

Emp is a great creator, but I feel like this is his weakest video yet. A lot of the video is just him cherry-picking data, presenting anecdotal evidence, and showing it through the overtone of nostalgia. I feel like he could've really elaborated on his point at the end.

better technology doesn't lead to more development costs tho, an example and a pretty big one is nobody needs to make a custom engine anymore from scratch like it was the case for a huge amount of games back in the day(or at the very least use an in house engine), game making is easier and cheaper than ever nowadays. Blowing money away in dumb shit and justifying it as development costs always existed, its not technology's fault.

im still watching the video, but i find myself not being able to understand how games are getting worse. I've been a nintendo head for a while, but i got a pc recently. This has allowed me to experience some console games i didnt play previously; im really happy i did. Being able to play games like NieR: Automata and Code Vein has been a LIFE CHANGING experience. I find that the oldest games i've played are usually the ones that i find to be the worst.


Personally, I think escape from tarkov is one of the most innovative games in recent times. When you take it as a whole, there's really no game like escape from tarkov. The way the developers relentlessly stick to what they want to make their game into

@RampageBlizzard yeah I feel that. It's probably gonna be a while lmao

For sure. It feels very well put together because they have a vision for their game and want to make it a reality. I am still wondering when it’s gonna leave beta tho.


Downward spiral in gaming still going strong


This years E3 was extremely disappointing for Bandai, and I was looking forward to some more dragon ball games


I actually use the Nascar EA franchise to basically say the same argument. Good video man.


EmpLemon and Internet Historian are the heros we have needed this whole time.


This decline ALSO lines up with the decline of Mario Party. Coincidence???

'Sup Colonel, just wanna say Cascade is hella neat.


Throwback to when hyper realistic graphics were the new thing they literally made smash bros brawl to live off of that need, all the proof is in marios very denim overalls


20:42 you know this really says what I’ve been thinking I really don’t know what I want from a game anymore. I’ve been hating pretty much every game that comes out, games I’ve haven’t played, saying what they could of done better, saying they don’t make them like they use to, that I don’t know what to feel anymore. Would these improvements I say even make the game fun for me? I don’t know. I don’t want to hate games anymore I just want to have fun playing them again


I enjoy a lot of games known for being dumpster fires
Like the entire watch dogs series including legion and assassin's creed unity
Both of which released from the hitler of videogames who imo hit a lot more than they miss
I've had more fun playing farcry blood dragon alone than i have playing both destiny games with friends but honestly my opinion on destiny doesn't really matter
Idk i feel like we should watch reviewers because of the personality criticizing the game rather than for their criticism cuz there's no such thing as objective quality
Also ubisoft games are never finished at release wait like 5 years and experience an immersive empowering experience with all the dlcs and much less bugs at a fraction of the price


"If it's not fun, why bother?"<br>One of the greatest quotes about video games.

"If it's not fun, why bother?"
One of the greatest quotes about video games.

@stankorplank If you wanna pick it apart like that then sure. I just like the quote. But if you really want to get into it I think in a story heavy games like Xenoblade should a balance of both enjoyable gameplay and great story. If I just want a good story then there are plenty of good books, TV shows, and anime with great stories. Take the Persona Series, in this case Persona 5. Persona 5 is a great blend of both a compelling interesting story with rewarding and fun gameplay, except for the need of grinding but that apart of a lot of Jrpgs. So you may be right that Fun is subjective but to me personally if there's not a good blend of both gameplay and story then I won't consider it fun. Which is why I like the quote because it relates to resonates with mine and other people of our interpretation of fun.

No. False. Idiotic an quite frankly nonsensical. Just because gameplay is bad doesn't mean it doesn't have a story to tell. A lot of games have incredible stories to tell. Even to a subjectice fault this quote is doomed because fun in of itself is subjective. I think xenoblade chronicles is fun but many people dont and yet still play for the story.


Is it just me or there were some actually incredibly good games that came out in the 2010s??

During the 2010s games did go down but there was still some good ones like Terraria but it's still a good video


NEVER buy a game over $20 (unless you have a personal connection with the developers, or it's been getting consistent updates for years)

Some of my favorite indie games are free or go on sale for $1-3, and new mindblowing indie games are usually cheap as shit compared to the padded trash AAA companies almost always shovel out.


I thought I was the only one who loved nascar as much as emp does


I mean

AVGN exposed how shitty games have always existed. Back then you can sell a bad game with no worries of meta bombing and negative reviews. Games that people worship like Earthbound,  sold poorly and got ignored 👀👀👀👀👀

@Shaman Xeed  why do you keep spamming this everywhere?

except earthbound sold badly because it had a terrible marketing campaign, and in japan it sold double the units than in the us because of that. plus in japan mother was already an established franchise while in the us you're gonna get a game you know nothing about


It’s like 1984, the kids that play the remakes today don’t know how good it use to be and should still be.


Gotta love the emplemon collabs of random guys coming in to say a single phrase and then never showing up again


Say what you want about older games, most of the time they can be pretty good, but I would never want to go back to just playing the older games, while the current state of gaming isn't in the best place as of right now I'm sure it's simply going to get better from here, those that would prefer to play games from 00s and the 90s are looking back with rose tinted glasses a majority of the time<br>Edit: that being said modern games have their fair share of issues, I can't ignore unfinished releases being filled with bugs, from games from the mid to late 2010s and copy pastes like cod and every sports game from 2010 onwards

Say what you want about older games, most of the time they can be pretty good, but I would never want to go back to just playing the older games, while the current state of gaming isn't in the best place as of right now I'm sure it's simply going to get better from here, those that would prefer to play games from 00s and the 90s are looking back with rose tinted glasses a majority of the time
Edit: that being said modern games have their fair share of issues, I can't ignore unfinished releases being filled with bugs, from games from the mid to late 2010s and copy pastes like cod and every sports game from 2010 onwards


- I have 1700 hours in TF2 👌. It's really the only multiplayer FPS game I've played for long. It's still fun after all these years, but I stop playing every couple of months after I get bored or get sick of bots... and ok, dumb players.<br>- Whew, I'm not willing to give up Undertale/Deltarune though. There's just something magical about it.

- I have 1700 hours in TF2 👌. It's really the only multiplayer FPS game I've played for long. It's still fun after all these years, but I stop playing every couple of months after I get bored or get sick of bots... and ok, dumb players.
- Whew, I'm not willing to give up Undertale/Deltarune though. There's just something magical about it.


The problem isn't gaming itself, but instead the change in culture and society. Companies grow bigger and bigger,  but the middle class slowly shrinks, only being left with the bottom and top, and both slowly grow ever more distant from each other just guessing at what the other wants just to make the quickest buck.

Combine that with the unique problems of the gaming industry and you get what you see everywhere else. Multi billion dollar companies desperately clinging to the wealth they got from buying everything around them and destroying the only thing that force them to improve, while smaller companies come along and make something that people actually wanted and birth something entirely new.

Socialism aren't exactly pro free speech and that means the story etc will be far more limited.

What if I liked South Park? What if I liked more cynical media? What if I liked something that isn't a shoehorned political activism?

Socialism is essentially moving the means of production, etc. From the capitalist class to society acting like lynch mob. That, combined with the populist nature of socialism, it creates an environment where demagogues, podcasters etc run society. Twitter lynch mob comes to real life. Nope.

I, for one, believes that robber barons are still better than moral busybodies. At least robber barons leave me alone.

And who guarantees video games will be considered? Society? If the vast majority of society is homophobic, then what?

@JSSM-VCJR / Canal 2.1 you said the same thing twice.

@TizioBello How could communists and socialists implement policy unless you're talking about the UK or something? There aren't any in the government in the United States. 80% of problems lefties talk about are related to the class struggle. Social issues are still important though. It's important not to reduce all of our problems to just being related to capitalism, even if a lot of them are because of that.

@SteveDoidoUltimate You say that like it's a bad thing. A less saturated industry with passion projects being more common is a good thing.

@RYNO 4EVER if only far lefties or communists would actually care about the workers,  they fight minor or non existent social  issues that more often than not, are always 100% supported (or even created) by same borgeoisie they hate, instead of focusing on policies that would actually threaten their power

@RYNO 4EVER not at all. China is still a communist country with capitalist leanings.<br>The point of communism is for the rich to get richer whilst the rest dies. Besides, do you expect consistency from the ignorant and wicked?

@RYNO 4EVER not at all. China is still a communist country with capitalist leanings.
The point of communism is for the rich to get richer whilst the rest dies. Besides, do you expect consistency from the ignorant and wicked?

@Th3 Grave of WrathAnti consumer practices and greed are kind of antithetical to communism , so what you just said doesn't make any sense.

@RYNO 4EVER Didn't I even drop a hint when I said "my interactions with Christian traditionalists".

No, I'm not a coward. A real coward is someone who calls himself a "centrist" and claims both sides  are bad and that we should compromise only that he ends up capitulating to the enemy. Also, as you can read from my last comment, I also questioned capitalism but for very different reasons.

@RYNO 4EVER No, it is political incorrect to express it here on this specific video's comments section. I don't mind it expressing it if the channel weren't so normie tier with far-leftists watching it.

I can agree with breaking monopolies up alongside lowering taxes on the middle class and small businesses, and putting tariffs on imported goods that is possible to produce here such as cars, beef, and electronics. The exceptions are video games and books for examples.

However, this is not the extent I want to say because there is more to the issues worldwide than lack of jobs and money and that can't be said here for most of the people watching here are not ready to understand. A few exceptions to this are the socialists, communists, and globalists, who won't understand for I know they are too ideological to understand.

@RYNO 4EVER No, it is political incorrect to express it here on this specific video's comments section. I don't mind it expressing it if the channel weren't so normie tier with far-leftists watching it.

I can agree with breaking monopolies up alongside lowering taxes on the middle class and small businesses, and putting tariffs on imported goods that is possible to produce here such as cars, beef, and electronics. The exceptions are video games and books for examples.

However, this is not the extent I want to say because there is more to the issues worldwide than lack of jobs and money and that can't be said here for most of the people watching here are not ready to understand. A few exceptions to this are the socialists, communists, and globalists, who _won't_ understand for I know they are too ideological to understand.

@atur chomicz No, it's just the solution is something that can't be expressed here because it is too politically incorrect to socialists and communists.

@RYNO 4EVER Every system works worse once it's scaled up, that's not exclusive to Capitalism.

@64bitmodels Well, monopoly law is kinda shit honestly. For example, Amazon isn't technically a monopoly on anything, but they are difficult to compete against for almost everyone. Could Amazon be broken up under current monopoly laws? I kinda doubt it. But does Amazon need to be broken up? Yea, I think so. Even if we considered that monopolies were a problem in the gaming industry(they aren't really yet, but they may be soon), when we broke them up, someone would eventually become the leader again and there would be a new monopoly.

Due to the influence of capital on the government, it's really hard to break up monopolies too, because they lobby the government and pay for politicians reelection campaigns as long as they do what the lobbyists want.

Making loot boxes illegal does seem like a no brainer though. It's literally gambling, and it's very anti-consumer. The fact that a video game company would create something like a lootboxes really illustrates my point though. It shows that money matters more to them than the well being of their consumers. If they weren't trying so hard to make a profit, loot boxes wouldn't even exist in video games.

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) Ok so you understand the issue but are scared of the obvious solution, blocked

@RYNO 4EVER just break up monopolies problem solved<br>make microtransactions and lootboxes illegal

@RYNO 4EVER just break up monopolies problem solved
make microtransactions and lootboxes illegal

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) Pretty weird if your explanation isn't politically correct enough for YouTube comments, considering how toxic they can be.

@JSSM-VCJR / Canal 2.1 I have to agree with that the person that said that capitalism is the problem but only the part where he said that capitalism is the problem. What I don't agree with the socialists is them refusing to take account of the atomization of societies to atomized individuals. Meaning the problem is a sick culture that perverts capitalism especially when heads of companies are willing to give up morals and moral obligations to their workers and customers and subvert whole communities just to draw high profit margins, leading to atomization.

Let me be clear, I don't like socialists and communists. I would explain why the current culture is sick and capitalism is part of that factor but that would be very politically incorrect to explain extensively here. All I could say is I got many of my opinions from interactions with Christian traditionalists who do look at the issues of the modern world from a moral and non-materialist lens.

"the problem is capitalism!"
"the problem is culture!"
"the problem i-"
is you're adults now, with thousands of hours of playing videogames under your belt, and videogames lose their novelty by the second so you have higher standards. a mature artform isn't happy go lucky, who is surprised?

@JustCast EA is the single best example in the gaming industry, followed by Activision, then Ubisoft.

@SteveDoidoUltimate More people would be employed under other systems, so it's probable that games would either not be affected at all, or more would be produced. People always act like if we had socialism or something, we wouldn't produce luxury goods like video games. Of course we would. Just look at homebrew communities. These people work for free just because they're passionate

I disagree that the desire to profit is natural in humans. We live in a system that says "the more you profit, the more powerful you will be, and thus, the more you can profit". If we did not live in a society that incentivised profit in the way that capitalism does, I'm sure that the games that did get made would be seen through to the original vision of the people making it.

Prevailing ideas of what socialism would look like account for things like video games too. A society that doesn't incentivise profit would still have use for video games, so they would produce it. The state doesn't have to have anything to do with it either. It could be a worker syndicate that produces video games, or if we are going the social democracy route, it could even be capitalism and you could have democratic worker coops where all of the profit is given to the employees, and the employees vote on big company decisions. That could potentially keep abuse from happening in many industries.

It's not capitalism. It's Corporatism.<br>Mark my words.

It's not capitalism. It's Corporatism.
Mark my words.

@RYNO 4EVER Sure, but that is a natural thing.
If people could not profit in some way from games we would only have passion projects, and those are always rare and very small.
If there was no capitalism we'd just have less games as a whole.

@SteveDoidoUltimate The primary goal of a corporation is to make money, not quality products. If they find a way to make more money and less game, they will. This applies to many other industries as well.


Your inclusion of Simpsons clips is on point


2000s were a different time, and we didn’t know how good we had it. While we shouldn’t live in the past… man i miss it


Full dive VR is pretty much the only thing that will get me hype about video games anymore.


Oh my.. Nascar Thunder 2004..  the first ever Nascar game I played and fell in love with. Put many hours into that game and no other Nascar game has given me the same amount of joy.


"People are looking for the best solution in the least amount of time, and anything less in considered a failure"<br>Speedrunners: Is that supposed to be a revelation?

"People are looking for the best solution in the least amount of time, and anything less in considered a failure"
Speedrunners: Is that supposed to be a revelation?


Should've been more specific by 2010s cause ps3 still had games coming out during that time 2k10 was amazing Madden 10 was amazing I would've choose the 2010s not because of the ps4 but because the ps3 games released during the early 2010s !

Just a fair heads up .


Modern Warfare 2 was created in 2009, and GTA 4 in 2008. I think that’s all we need to know about the pinnacle of blockbuster games


I miss the novelty of Resident Evil 4, Halo 3, Gears of War 1, Splinter Cell Saga, and Soo on. Now we just get reboots of the classics.


Video games haven't been getting worse, its just that AAA studios have been getting greedier.


I think a big part of the "Downward Spiral" in Gaming, is the distrust between the Gamers and Developers.

Now this is only speaking for myself, but the biggest disappointments for me were situations where the Devs either straight up lied, or the game that came out wasn't what was promised.

The most recent Pokemon games for example. "We gotta make new models cuz the old ones don't work." No you didn't. "We can't fit all of them in." Yes you can. "We're improving the animations." They're the same as the 3DS. "We have no intention of fixing it." Now even though this was a lie, I'm glad it was. But that's a very hostile response to all the above.

Fallout 76. This wasn't one I personally got into since I don't really trust Bethesda with anything. The game didn't work, they only offered refunds to people who bought physical copies (which didn't exist), they reused the same engine they've been using since oblivion, Todd "it just works" Howard
Todd "16 times the detail" Howard
Todd "I was in the Chess club not really" Howard
Todd "paid mods" Howard.

So basically, people get in this dumb abusive relationship (figuratively) where devs go, "I know I lied last time, but now I'm telling the truth" and the consumers buy their crap, both the excuse and the product, only to have it be a bunch of lies, and the cycle repeats.

All people need to do is stop trusting them so much. If a company constantly lies about the quality of their games, don't buy their games at release, if at all. Vote with your wallet.

@Aphordite Heart So their engine was used for..
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Fallout 3
Fallout 4
Fallout NV
Fallout 76

Yeah, no wonder 76 never worked, it's using a modified Morrowind engine for an MMO.

@Big Jay Used to be called Netimmerse or something of the sort. And I know

@Aphordite Heart My bad, I thought it was since Oblivion. But that just makes my point stronger.

They've been using the same engine since morrowind.

@You Squidding Me? And that makes what I said... What?

Yeah, devs keep abusing their goodwill for shortterm gain

>Vote with your wallet.

One big problem with that. In a situation where voting with one's wallet is necessary, the majority rules, and often there's a large portion of the potential market that buys in anyway due to not caring or even knowing what issues people are incensed over. As such, the voices of those invested to such a degree that they decide to cut their support of the publisher are drowned out by the sounds of money flowing into the publisher's bank accounts from people who just saw the product as an interesting game.

If there's anything that's more effective than voting with one's wallet, though, it's influencing the vote so that a lot of interested voters go your way at the polls. Raising awareness of scummy practices and critical issues with not just the creators, but also other consumers has demonstrably led to changes occurring to correct the issues, not just with games, but even with the platforms they're played on. If there's anything that can lead to the video games industry getting out of its seeming downward spiral, it's that.


I really hope the new battlefield that is coming out is good. After battlefield V, it better be


Thats what im saying, i just want a fun game i can pick up and spend some time on and then move on


I’m lucky that usually during study hall, we still have a game of shell shockers for the whole class, but it’s not as good as the older stuff.


I definitely think that triple a games definitely aren't as special feeling as they used to be though I believe that indie games are great rn


Emp: "The same is true for Minecraft's less respected but equally popular cousin:"
Me: "Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria Terraria-"
Emp: "Roblox."

@Object They are related because of their unlimited possibilities, and not because of their style

Roblox is still good but not as good as it was before.

@Hargbratch roblox is horrible, please god don’t try it

@RalphTheFrog terraria is actually older then Minecraft lol

ive played ROBLOX for ten years (almost, this July) and i can easily say back in the day - ROBLOX was the most fun shit, every game felt like a leisurely time as a kid. nowadays it's full of the same, repetitive bullshit, i can't blame people for hating on ROBLOX since 2015

@Object they're both sandbox and share userbase, they're just different mechanics

That part actually made me laugh because Roblox is actually a freeware game engine.

@Andrew The game is almost always at 50% or 75% discounted, whereas Minecraft is always the same price most of the time.

@Andrew Considering how Minecraft is the 1st best selling game of all time, yeah, Terraria certainly isn't equally popular.
I can't say whether Roblox is closer (which is why I, uh... didn't), but it is a game that doesn't have to be sold to be played... meh, might as well Google it myself at this point.
Edit: pressed wrong button, sent too early. Anyway, Wikipedia puts Roblox at 164 million peak monthly players as of August 2020, and Terraria's lifetime sales across all platforms at 30.3 Million as of April 2020. Wikipedia, grains of salt and all that.

(Edit 2: I typed Minecrat by mistake. Funny, but probably shouldn't be left that way.)

@Andrew Considering how Minecraft is the 1st best selling game of all time, yeah, Terraria certainly isn't equally popular.
I can't say whether Roblox is closer (which is why I, uh... didn't), but it _is_ a game that doesn't have to be sold to be played... meh, might as well Google it myself at this point.
Edit: pressed wrong button, sent too early. Anyway, Wikipedia puts Roblox at 164 million peak monthly players as of August 2020, and Terraria's lifetime sales across all platforms at 30.3 Million as of April 2020. Wikipedia, grains of salt and all that.

(Edit 2: I typed Minecrat by mistake. Funny, but probably shouldn't be left that way.)

@Alex Dutton Terraria is the 16th best selling game of all time

Would love to be able to say Terraria has the same degree if popularity, but it isn't.

@Marcus Borderlands Starbound isn't that grea,t it's average at best. Modding Starbound is the only way to go.

I was thinking fortnite, but then again they are barely related

@Alex Dutton no i would say its more respected than minecraft, just not equally popular.

@𝓕𝓾𝓬𝓴 𝓕𝓪𝓬𝓮 Terraria is more of a proper rpg with more content yeah. you tried starbound? I couldnt really get into terraria that much, but starbound sucked me in. mainly with the amount of guns and planets and shit you can explore lol.

Terraria is far less popular but far more respected

Terraria is more of a 2d step-brother for Minecraft

Idk if I can say terraria is like minecraft

BowlDawg Amen. Having played Roblox as early as 2007, I got to sit back and watch the site transition into what it is nowadays. The only thing that I take solace in is the fact that we can have games like Super Doomspire that take classic, original Roblox games and reimagines them with modernized gameplay without killing the original spirit. It’s pretty great.

@Object Maybe, but they are still two of the biggest online games.

@Hargbratch You're thinking of Mindstorms

@BowlDawg well i have played roblox for over a year

I feel like Roblox as a whole succeeds like Minecraft does because of it having similar amounts of possibilities, albeit it's a lot more online oriented and is better at it than Minecraft to certain levels. I feel Roblox isn't in a good spot right now. It's easier to form your own opinion on a Roblox game because certain games just aren't heard about like actual AAA titles, but you end up with disappointment nonetheless because not that many Roblox games, at least in my opinion, are good, or just fun. Right now, if you go to the popular page you'll either see basic games that children play like Adopt Me, the notorious simulator games, clones of already existing games originating from Roblox or otherwise,  anime games with varying quality, and then actually well put together games. Problem is, they are all mixed in with each other, so it's harder to actually find a game you would enjoy playing, but if you do, you'll most likely stick to your favorites page until you get burned out on your favorited games and try to find a new game to play.

@Steven Grüner Thanks.

Microsoft Excel and the Adobe PDF reader are two popular programs I guess, though I'd never compare them.

I quickly googled what is a roblox and all I can say is that it kinda looks like legos but it's like a unity add-on or something?

i know about terraria and minecraft but till now i thought roblox was legos + motors + programming for preengineering classes

The thumbnails about it on youtube are all teenage girls talking about dating?

It's weird being almost 30. Did you hear tik tok is banned? I still don't know what tik tok is for sure.

@RalphTheFrog they first came out around the same time, I would say they are brothers

The thing is, Terraria isn't that much less respected than Minecraft, and it isn't equally popular either.

Lol, Roblox and minecraft aren't even related.


I have a Steam wishlist of 350 games. Unless a miracle game comes out like Sekiro (Tenchu fan here) or Streets of Rage 4, I go chronological on that list. Next is the first Vampire Masquerade game, like 07. I learned my lesson because of Bethesda.<br>I know what I want...Tenchu 2022.

I have a Steam wishlist of 350 games. Unless a miracle game comes out like Sekiro (Tenchu fan here) or Streets of Rage 4, I go chronological on that list. Next is the first Vampire Masquerade game, like 07. I learned my lesson because of Bethesda.
I know what I want...Tenchu 2022.


Eh it's all the same to me. There's good and great games in a pit of infinite garbage. And it's kind of always been like that. And I would describe the movie industry like that as well. If I said the gaming industry has declined, I would be lieng to myself and others. A lot of people love the new and recent stuff. I myself love a lot of modern and older games, and at the same time I also dislike a lot of modern of and old games.


that "extinct" idea of the creative solo game dev is still very there.


Atv 2 will forever be one of my all time favorite video games. I wore that disk out


This whole problem started from one issue: The over commercialization and entering of gaming into mainstream culture. Companies such as EA, Ubisoft, and other companies have started to enter their “to big to fail” session of their lifetime. However my dear friends, if you look back you’ll see that we have been down this road before....

Back in the late 80s and 90s we saw a similar company go down this road, a little company known as: “Atari”. It all collapsed during one Christmas Day when everyone got the straw that broke the camels back: the game ET. This caused the entire industry to collapse which is going to be unfortunate for all of us when it happens again.... but don’t feel so down, because you know what we got afterwords? The golden age of games (the 2000s that we so idolize), so although we may be going through some dark times now, it will get better (and I can’t wait for it).

It’s ironic really, I would compare Fortnite to Jaws, although it will make/made everyone realize and respect the medium by realizing how profitable it is, it is going to introduce us to a whole lot of crap over time...

@Courier 6 I wish more games adopt the Valve model (CSGO, TF2) where things you unbox have actual monetary value, the potential is crazy honestly

block62 <br>I don’t mind them too much either, it’s just some of the pricing is ridiculous and heavily encourages those with gambling or spending issues to waste money (some games have cosmetics that are like hundreds of dollars, which is ridiculous).

block62
I don’t mind them too much either, it’s just some of the pricing is ridiculous and heavily encourages those with gambling or spending issues to waste money (some games have cosmetics that are like hundreds of dollars, which is ridiculous).

@Courier 6 paid cosmetics are perfectly fine IMO as long as it doesn't affect gameplay

block62 <br>It’s not as bad, but the crash will most likely happen. MW was decent, but you have to realize the sheer AMOUNT of call of duty’s they have released (I think we are around 30 now). Eventually, people are going to get tired of it (that’s just how the market works). Yes their are good triple AAA games, but there is also a ton of garbage that is released as well, along with a lot of anti-consumer practices (loot box’s, pay to win, overpriced cosmetics, advertising in games, XP boosters in multiplayer AND SINGLEPLAYER games).

block62
It’s not as bad, but the crash will most likely happen. MW was decent, but you have to realize the sheer AMOUNT of call of duty’s they have released (I think we are around 30 now). Eventually, people are going to get tired of it (that’s just how the market works). Yes their are good triple AAA games, but there is also a ton of garbage that is released as well, along with a lot of anti-consumer practices (loot box’s, pay to win, overpriced cosmetics, advertising in games, XP boosters in multiplayer AND SINGLEPLAYER games).

@Courier 6 wdym CoD MW was great, also there'll always be yearly crap like FIFA or Madden but there are also dozens of good AAA games every year. It's nowhere as bad as the crash

Courier 6  i refer you to my brian regan quote. Anyways i think youve been hounded enough, its a good enough point

Youtube Account <br>Yeah i know, but it was more of a brief summary to get to my point about how this phase of the games industry will come to pass. I understand that it’s not PERFECT summary of what happened, but it gets the point across all the same.

Youtube Account
Yeah i know, but it was more of a brief summary to get to my point about how this phase of the games industry will come to pass. I understand that it’s not PERFECT summary of what happened, but it gets the point across all the same.

Ooh actually it reminds me of this brian regan quote:

Adolf Hitler was rejected as a young man on his application to art school... One thing led to another... And the United States dropped two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan

Courier 6 my issue is that it feels like you skipped a decade. Its like decrying the attack on pearl harbor but feeling glad that we ended up on the moon: You’re missing a few steps there

Smattless
Yes, I’m not 100% accurate on the time periods and dates, but Nintendo did rise out of that recession to become a dominant company in the games industry. They would go on to make major consoles, games, and decisions that would give us some extremely iconic and appreciated games. I know that the games recession fully ended AROUND the the beginning of the 90s after Nintendo had provide so much good content to consumers, but my point still stands.

My overall point still stands as well, through the games recession, we were then effectively able to press the reset button on the industry, and bring about innovation, new companies, and iconic games. There are plenty of similarities between the current day struggle, and the recession Atari brought along.

Smattless
“Too big to fail” is absolutely not communist in nature it is a real life phenomenon that you would have to be foolish to deny.

One great example of this is Comcast, Verizon, and other cable companies:
They have localized monopolies that make shit tons of money, they have no competition and have legislation exempting them from local monopoly laws. They are the second largest congressional spenders and if they were to ever to start to go downhill, they would have congress give them a bailout. By all means, if you can think of a scenario where these institutions can go the way of the dinosaur, I would love to hear it.

I would like to point out we have some very large companies in the game industry, that are simply too profitable and too large to be able to ignore (EA, Microsoft, Sony, all of these companies own large amounts of properties command billions of dollars, and are mostly willing to do anything for an extra dollar). Microsoft bought Bethesda and it’s parent company for 7.5 billion, I think it’s safe to say that these companies are behemoths at this point.

DonGondola <br>I’m not though, redditors can be cringe.

DonGondola
I’m not though, redditors can be cringe.

Natural progression of economics. Video games have mass appeal and can make money, so it became an industry. As with everything else that makes money. This was unavoidable from the release of Pong.

I was just about the comment that. One of the sad truths of life is that once something becomes a big business, silly things like "creativity" or "artistic integrity" take a backseat to profit margins. It's inevitable. The only thing that can really be done about it is supporting indie devs and/or voting with our wallets because that's the only language corporations understand.

Youtube Account <br>That was the early rise of Nintendo, and the first “console wars”. Nintendo would inevitably dominate the market for a while, before Sony came in during the 90s and snatched that away from them (and then Microsoft, the rest is history)

Youtube Account
That was the early rise of Nintendo, and the first “console wars”. Nintendo would inevitably dominate the market for a while, before Sony came in during the 90s and snatched that away from them (and then Microsoft, the rest is history)

Courier 6 i mean, check out the mario franchise. Didnt the nes come out in 85? Wasnt that a turning point?

creapyalbinofish
No, it won’t be AS bad, but it will certainly happen.

EA is starting to go down that road BADLY, with like Call of duty games being seen as bland as ever, trend chasing, FIFA and Madden having ratings that are in the dumpsters, lazy cash grabs (very similar to Atari) and market consolidation that destroy smaller firms and destroy franchises. It’s very clear that they are clearing a path for their inevitable fall, the only question is when it will happen.

Ubisoft seems to have realized that they were heading down the same path, and seem to be changing direction...

Blizzard hasn’t been doing so hot recently either... by accepting Chinese censorship for a pretty penny

We are seeing a return of exclusives and the console wars with Microsoft’s massive consolidation purchase as of late. As well as Sony going down that as well.

PC platforms are becoming more and more separate, with the Epic Games launcher (and other smaller launchers) gaining power alongside steam...

Honestly, I doubt that we could see something quite like the original crash, games come from so many sources these days that a complete industry crash on that scale would require several companies to fail completely at the same time and with things like digital distribution games will continue to be more accessible than ever before. At worst some companies may fold and beloved franchises have uncertain futures, but not a crash on par with the original.

Youtube Account <br>Because after ET was released in 1982, the whole games market went into a DEEP recession, which we were only able to fully get out of in the 90s to early 2000s

Youtube Account
Because after ET was released in 1982, the whole games market went into a DEEP recession, which we were only able to fully get out of in the 90s to early 2000s

Wait how do you skip from et to the 2000’s?


Gamers: How come do games suck these days?

EA: The intent is to provide gamers with a sense of pride and accomplishment ...


The thing you said about older films having intrinsically worse special effects is just… wrong. Look at Star Wars (the ORIGINAL original trilogy), classic horror films (The Thing), classic war films (A Bridge Too Far), etc. All practical special effects. All fantastic. Better than current films if you want my honest opinion.


A lot of people that enjoyed games in the 2000s are just getting older and are harder to impress. It's not that the games are getting worse.


I'm still waiting for photorealistic 3D(terrain) Minecraft with physics and haptic feed back full body tracking vr


Kind of unrelated but I've been playing minecraft for literally what feels like my whole life, I still play it today with friends and I most likely have at least 10k hours on it. And that's considering the fact that I've never even played through a whole survival world or actually beat the game, lol. Says a lot about the entertainment value it has

minecraft really was revolutionary for its time if you think about it

That's why I spent YEARS seeking to play it! <br>Got it in Switch! XD

That's why I spent YEARS seeking to play it!
Got it in Switch! XD


I feel like the only way for devs to escape crunch culture and hype trains is to make extremely niche games, like my summer car


6:10

Amazing indie games fill the middle ground.


honestly i feel like one of the best games to come out of 2020 was final fantasy 7 remake.


I wish I could play Paper Mario thousand year door again. A true classic from the early 2000s. My disc was damaged and could never find a copy ever again


Current games aren't games. They're online services.

@The Lonely Proto If im not playing the game in 5-10 years, why do i care what happens? I generally dont

Nothing I love more than starting a new game to be greeted by a 50 page legal document telling me I own nothing and my access can be revoked at any time for any reason, and I can't play if I don't agree.

That’s true if you only look at the shittiest AAA releases. You could apply the same thing with any industry.
You could only focus on awful generic pop songs and say the music industry is failing.
You could only focus on derivative Hollywood schlock and say the movie industry is failing.
That would clearly be a stupid way to think. Music and movies aren’t going anywhere. Neither are video games. I find this whole hysteria of the so called decline of the industry to just be cherry picking and nostalgia baiting. Not only are there good games still being made, including AAAs, but emulation keeps getting better and better. You have access to so many classics for free. RPCS3 is a great PS3 emulator that’s been making great progress recently, and it’s now currently able to boot every PS3 game.

Like %80 of them yeah. People need to remember that all those online games won't play in like 5-10 years. All servers will shut down

Why do people continue to look at games they don’t like them try to come to a conclusion of “all games are this!” like literally just take a second to look around the market and bam

No greater time to stop<br>Being a gamer then right now

No greater time to stop
Being a gamer then right now

@Spyder nobody talked about Doom, take your pills schizo.<br>Besides, Doom is an okay game, nothing like the masterpiece that changed games forever you guys sell it like. And thats okay, to be just okay.

@Spyder nobody talked about Doom, take your pills schizo.
Besides, Doom is an okay game, nothing like the masterpiece that changed games forever you guys sell it like. And thats okay, to be just okay.

@Sephiroth One-Winged Angel by all accounts the old gaming world live whit as in indie games.

yea basically everything on the internet is becoming a service

He has a point, an online game can just pull the plug on their servers and make the game unplayable

It's not a pistol It's a bullet launcher

Even have to pay a monthly fee to have access to online features on consoles.

@Hesh I’m more of a rip and tear type of guy.

@Spyder I prefer outer wilds (it’s completely different from the outer worlds)

@Sephiroth One-Winged Angel sure, but I believe DOOM Eternal was one the best games we’ve had in recent memory. It innovated after DOOM 2016, it brought back that 90’s DOOM feeling and made it work in the modern day, and most importantly it was just pure fun from beginning to end.

@Spyder yea ik,there are a lot that are amazing games that i found like nier and yakuza

@Sephiroth One-Winged Angel DOOM Eternal is a fantastic game.

I suppose it depends on how u look at it since i see a lot of really great games thst are underlooked


Video games are generally pretty stagnant and soulless these days. I'm just grateful my backlog is so fucking big and good games still come from independent and Japanese developers occasionally.

Also mobile games are garbage, I don't even qualify them as real games honestly. Most flash games are worlds better than anything shat-out on those stupid app stores.


I can see how AAA games have broadly gotten worse.  Some of the games I play today are on such a high plane of existence that I'd never want to go back.  Comparing DCS World to it's predecessor Lock-On is eye-watering.  I loved SimCity 4 dearly, but Cities Skylines has grabbed me infinitely harder.  I don't even want to talk about my addiction to Factorio.

Here's my take on that poll from the beginning.  The largest plurality said they wanted to play games from the 2000s.  But how many hours have they realistically played on PS2 in the last year?  More than their modern console?  I don't think so.


So it's either online with randos or local with friends? Did you deliberately ignore playing games online with friends? It's not far removed from couch coop and in many cases the games are far deeper.

Yeah I like most of your content and there's plenty of criticism to aim at the game industry but theres so many strawman arguments here it just comes off as lazy.


i agree with this because my family doesn't have all the fancy games and stuff and I'm perfectly happy playing gtaV online on my ps3 even if i have to deal with hackers. sadly on December 16th all the ps3 online servers will be shutdown for use in the next gen consoles. but even when i lose games like that i still have 30 games i can play and be happy and these games will never be lost because i own the disc no one can take that away from me no one can take my happiness.


While I agree that there were a lot of duds in this decade, you can't just ignore the bangers like GTA V, Breath of the Wild, Undertale, Portal 2, Mario odyssey, Cuphead, Red Dead 2, Skyrim, the Dark souls series, Witcher 3, Celeste, and Stardew valley. And these are only the single player games. Mariokart 8, Among Us, Super smash bros, and Minecraft are all examples of amazing local multiplayer games, most of which can be experienced online if you need to. Games like League of Legends, CS go, and rocket league are amazing and successful online games that are FREE. <br>Sure a lot of people take these games too seriously, but does that diminish their quality for the vast majority of players? While I do agree that the internet gave rise to some problems, are we seriously asking for less content, less videos, less discussion? It is really easy to point to some horrible games and say the decade was bad for games, but by refusing to acknowledge the good examples your video turns into a one-sided nostalgia trip of some undoubtedly good games from last decade.

While I agree that there were a lot of duds in this decade, you can't just ignore the bangers like GTA V, Breath of the Wild, Undertale, Portal 2, Mario odyssey, Cuphead, Red Dead 2, Skyrim, the Dark souls series, Witcher 3, Celeste, and Stardew valley. And these are only the single player games. Mariokart 8, Among Us, Super smash bros, and Minecraft are all examples of amazing local multiplayer games, most of which can be experienced online if you need to. Games like League of Legends, CS go, and rocket league are amazing and successful online games that are FREE.
Sure a lot of people take these games too seriously, but does that diminish their quality for the vast majority of players? While I do agree that the internet gave rise to some problems, are we seriously asking for less content, less videos, less discussion? It is really easy to point to some horrible games and say the decade was bad for games, but by refusing to acknowledge the good examples your video turns into a one-sided nostalgia trip of some undoubtedly good games from last decade.

also, you need to consider that many genres have made like roguelikes with games like spelunky enter the dungeon, and the binding of Isaac

I think the movement has gone towards lots of bangers and lots of trash games.

@Frito Bandito Doom Eternal is really good.

I thought DOOM Eternal was fun, the game obviously looks like they had passionate developers make the game as fun as possible.

Basically every Atlus game after 2000 are amazing

@Immortal Zealot Thats a bit of a stretch with a lot of these, but this gen has had a lot of good games. Id say EFT takes the cake for the best in the survival genre.

This gaming generation didn't reinvent the wheel but made everything better.
Prey 2017 > Best system shock
Hollow Knight > Best metroidvania
Doom Eternal > Best single player FPS
Dishonored 2 > Best stealth sim
Hades/Slay the Spire > Best roguelike
Outer Wilds > Best Mystlike
The list goes on and on; this gen can't be beat.

GTA V isnt a banger. Its a formulaic, terrible, boring, shit game. RDR2 is barely better.

People will crucify me for this but I prefer Fortnite to be in this list than among us

League of Legends has actively damaged my mental state

@Crono Ok? That doesn't change anything that I said. Companies milking their games aren't good things. Instead of innovating and trying to create better products, they're only interested in making more money from people like you

@Doctor Mitchell M.D. Yeah Rocket League is free

@Aye Jonny

Just because GTA V and Skyrim are milked doesn't mean they aren't beloved games. And that doesn't really detract from other critically beloved games like Red Dead 2, Mario Odyssey,  Spiderman ps4. Lost goes on

@Slick Tails The modern indie title isnt comparable to simple bigger games like nascar 2004. That's his entire point, that the middle ground of games is gone, you either have great or horrible, giant AAA messes or tiny indie games, ece.

@Skirmfiend Gta itself is not good, btw was revolutionary to the industry

From a purely technical level, I agree; the gaming industry isn't exactly sinking, but it's hard to imagine another time in which it was easier to trust an indie developer to deliver on the game they promised than a AAA company like EA, Sony, or Activision. Lots of premium games are built to siphon money away from children with access to a credit card these days, which wasn't the case back in 2007.

But that certainly hasn't been the worst problem with gaming over the last decade+. By far, the genre that's had it the worst since the launch of the PS3 and Xbox 360 has been sports games, and that's the premise Emp started out on. No one makes NASCAR games anymore. Every last one of the big 4 North American sports leagues has signed an exclusive rights deal for an annual game release; the NHL and NFL with EA, the NBA with 2K, and MLB with Sony. The only one of these titles that still receives even mixed reviews is MLB: The Show.

So, I get where Emp's coming from here. I think his position is a little bit off-kilter, because there are still great games out there to play, and in equal measure to the amount of crap that E3 debuts every year. But there are two things that are undeniably sinister about the new age of gaming.

First off, a live service model should not require a down payment of $60 just to obtain the software, especially if it's still in a glorified debug mode that requires constant patching just to keep the game stable.

Secondly, the act of lobbying children for their parents' credit card information so the kids can gamble the money away on a glorified slot machine is immoral, full stop. It's not dissimilar to luring children into a white van with the promise of free candy, except instead of being trafficked, the kids are being mugged.

Also there is the fact that alot of games of the 2010s which are "bad" are often just games which were either the victim of a mostly undeserved hate-train, or over-hype. An example would be Mass Effect Andromeda. It was a good game, and even before its bugs were fixed it was a very enjoyable game. But because of how much hype it had, and because of the subsequent hate-train, people just see it as a shitty excuse for a video game.

> rocket league
> free

jokes aside, there are just as many good games as the 2000s, but there are so many more games that you have to sort through more bad games than ever before to find the good ones.

Gtav and Skyrim have been plagued by the milk machine. Their developers are running those games for as much money as they can get from them. I saw a tweet about how there were 3 different gtas in the 2000s ,while gta5 will be on 3 different console gnerations. The same can probably be said for Elder scrolls. The sad truth is capitalism has seeped into the videogame industry and we gamers are left to feed from scraps. Indie games are the last heart and soul of capturing that good video game magic

@Spartan Zed your opinion is wrong. leave

He mentioned plenty of these examples. Most F2P games have predatory monetization schemes where you can easily spend upwards of $100 on digital content you can't refund and legally don't actually own. Not even TF2 is exempt from this, with its market tax and keys.

Yep, this past decade has seen some incredible games, and the rise of indies fills the niche of so-called "simple" games moreso than ever. And while modern gaming definitely has its issues, we have more options and information available to us. Not to mention, it's still possible to play older games if that's your thing. I still play my PSP from time to time. No need to fuss over what's new and popular.


Local multiplayer is the best gaming experience I ever had


We should stop getting hyped up for new video games, instead we should be more cautious about video game announcements.


As gamers grow older, we continue to chase the childhood memories we view with rose colored glasses. That is a huge portion of the “feeling of dissatisfaction”.

A lot of people view MW2 as peak CoD - but MW2 is objectively a broken multiplayer game with terrible balance. MW2019 was by far the best CoD in history from a technical perspective.

With how much it costs to develop a game, I’m fine with what we get for $60. Some games I spend extra for DLC because few other forms of entertainment will provide as many hours of fun for the same price


Great use of a low-fi 8-bit 'Toxic' by Britney Spears, no doubt a throwback to the bygone era of 2000s and late 90s era music as well.


21:08 I would like to point out that the original game  Battle for Bikini Bottom came out in 2003 while Rehydrated came out in 2020. That's nearly a two decade gap.  I would argue its unfair to call out Battle for Bikini Bottom specifically for being rereleased every year.


Online games have been such a chore and toxic experience to the point where i actively avoid it.

Some of my favorite games are now single player experience where i can actually do whatever tf i want, like Witcher 3, Teardown, Cities Skyline, Sims 4, Oxygen Not Included, ect


I ponder my gratitude daily for the wealth of "boomer shooters" hitting the stores.


Escapism through video games and other forms of media are the only reasons I am alive today.


I remember playing Nascar Thunder 2003 way back in the day and it was great fun.  I played one or two nascar games since then and they weren't nearly as good.


I take issue with you placing De Blob under "Shovelware" just because it's a THQ title. The way they mix music with sound design is extremely technically impressive and interesting, with nearly nothing written about it. While there are issues with the controls and partially game design, I still find it to be a fascinating experience, and to an extent, enjoyable game.

Guys, it’s a generic Google stock image that pops up when you search “Shovelware”. Calm down lmao

pretty great game, i have played through it multiple times.

He just took an image of a bunch of THQ games and listed them as shovelware; I can slightly understand that, for THQ was known for producing a ton of mediocre, licensed games, but they also produced some real gems like the Drawn to Life series.

Why the fuck is Drawn to life on there as well?? It's a wonderful game and I would kill to see a new one come out!

Yeah, I played so much of De Blob when I first got a wii. ALSO, next photo over, Cars 'raceorama' is actually a pretty decent fun game to drive around I remember

De Blob/De Blob 2 were two of my favorite childhood games. The way they handled the reactive soundtrack was just awesome. I also actually didn’t have a problem with the gameplay personally, I was actually really good, and I think I might’ve 100% completed that game.

De Blob was originally created by the founders of Ronimo Games as a friggin' graduation project. Ronimo continued to create the masterpiece game Awesomenauts in the future. It's very silly indeed to call it a shovelware game but I guess Emp was just looking for titles by specific studios to quickly fill the screen.

I saw that too. De blob 2 was actually really good game I enjoyed. The graphics are cartoony and still look good on the Wii, lol.

Loved that game back when I played it on the wii it was pretty creative loved how every color its own genre of music tied to it.

As someone who only played the DS game (which was still great imo, if limited), I agree.

Half the games in that bottom row are ones I've heard next to nothing but praise for. Maybe he just googled "shovelware" and this image came up that was made back when any Wii game that wasn't Twilight Princess was written off by the masses as shovelware.

I was gonna say, out of all games to see under "shovelware," I didn't expect De Blob to be there. I hear lots of praise from people who have played it.

It is so underrated and such a great game


Game companies have had bad releases forever. I think there is plenty of good games as well as emulation has made accessing classic consoles incredibly easy. If you have a PC you have access to hundreds of old titles for completely free, and great indie titles like dead cells, celeste, lisa, undertale, binding of isaac, gungeon, shovel knight, cup head, into the breach all under $30. I think people looking for great multiplayer games will struggle to find a game thats not too competitive. Esports has ruined online gaming in a way, people care way too much ab optimization and rank for another great halo/call of duty type game to ever be released again imo. Fortnite did for it for a bit but once ppl mastered building it fell victim to the esport crowd


The games of the past were Good, that's why they are classic, but I think most of the "back in My times" feelings are nostalgia, if the game you play now can give you the 3 hours a day for half a year of fun that your childhood game gave you is just bad


there will Never Ever be another company like EA... hopefully.


indie games are the future or an important part of it


It's always a good time when Emplemon uploads.

@Masternaldo Yeah, it was mostly negative, but it was still interesting.


All credit for Enjoyment that we get out of post 2000s gaming<br>comes from ShovelKnight for rocking the 2010s.

All credit for Enjoyment that we get out of post 2000s gaming
comes from ShovelKnight for rocking the 2010s.


I remember playing FIFA 10 on my Nintendo DSi…good times


I don't blame the people who write off bad games that get ok-to-good over time though.<br>Normalizing "we'll fix it later" would make every studio go Bethesda Game Studios mode and you'd be seeing a slightly updated Cryengine 3 in 2045.

I don't blame the people who write off bad games that get ok-to-good over time though.
Normalizing "we'll fix it later" would make every studio go Bethesda Game Studios mode and you'd be seeing a slightly updated Cryengine 3 in 2045.


i think a missed point is also how back in the day almost all games cost money and we usually werent the ones who had to pay because most gamers were kids, back then you had to carefully pick and choose what game to beg your parenst to buy and companies knew and respected this. Nowadays the average gamer age is much close to an adult and we have the money to impulse buy left and right leading to steam libraries filled with unplayed games as almost a standard.


Generally, from the scope of an actual developer, the reason quality has gone down is because of the lack of charm and similarity between games. Games like Shovel Knight show us that its not impossible to capture that same feeling, even though all 4 of its games are designed extremely similarly. And with Pokemon, its very possible to just do the same thing over and over with improvements as you move along. The thing is, is that companies look at game development as a career, and not a passion. While I do think that it is definitely a career, businessmen and women will come and treat it like any other company, when that actively works against the game quality itself. Think about an example I just said, Pokemon. Generations 4 and 5 are generally agreed to be the peak of design for this series, and the move to 3D should've carried the same weight, right? Well not really, X and Y are generally regarded as some of the more mediocre games of the franchise, despite Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire being exponentially better. So what's the problem? Well, in the internal rigs of GameFreak, they have a development plan that was made in tandem with Mega Evolution, a mechanic starting in X and Y, which required devs to add something new to change the battle system up each generation to draw more people in. Notice that no other games really do this, and while modern Pokemon games that have these things, like Z moves or Dynamax, pale in comparison to the lengthy open campaigns of the DS or GBA titles. Fundamentally, generations 2, 3, 4, and 5 are built upon the same exact foundation and replicate the gameplay loop with eachother despite their releases being years and years apart. So honestly, the games began to dip in quality when companies required Pokemon to dip into 3D, and into Mega Pokemon and Dynamaxing. Don't get me wrong, its very much possible to design a game with these things in place. I mean hell, many fan projects garner large amounts of success by using mega evolution. But there's a right and wrong way to do it, and these days fans believe that Pokemon is going in the wrong direction. Prioritizing the hook into the wacky mechanics instead of making these mechanics have depth to the actual story or gameplay. Things might get better, who knows, but as long as video games are Americanized profit pieces, we will see less and less passion.

@h_grunt look, I get what you mean. Video games are very much looked at under a lense of profit and gains. But art does not simply manifest itself with money and mindless robots. It doesn't matter where the developers come from, there will always be passion in the roots of something profitable when considering the development of games. Pokemon was started as a man's way of recapturing his childhood of catching bugs and discovering new landmarks to play in. Then from that seedling grew a cycle pushed by experiencing that childhood in different parts of the world. Like how the first generations were hosted in regions based upon islands of Japan, or how the Unova region is based upon New York of America. It saddens me that people walk around with opinions like this, because when i play games I see that passion authored into it. The blood sweat and tears used to create something that just happens to be a product. Life may be less lifeless than you think, and you might find more joy in understanding that.

Sucks that most wont read all of this, great points


You’d think these game companies would wake up damn!


It's funny I should stumble into this video, because today I happened to have thought about starting to play only ps3 games, as it was my favorite gaming era.


Im telling you man. The crash of video games is inevitable


8:04 I couldn’t agree more. My middle school years I would play Tri Force heroes, MK7, and Smash brothers at lunch and before school. We literally had a 3Ds group


Watching this a second time, and I gotta say, the "bots but with anoyying chat & voice chat" is pretty relatable for me. Especially because the first time I played Gmod, I thought everyone on there were bots because of the detachment from their voices & their avatars.

I just mentioned it as being referenced in the video, and found it funny. I put "bots but with annoying chat & voice" in quotes, to further clarify.

@ʘland Uh, your original comment talked about how annoying voice chat is, and now you say you don't mind it? Pick one son! LOL

I don't mind voice chat actually. Police someone else on how simple it is and how unbelievable it is that they're still doing or not doing xy and z.

Infact, if your gonna police me on anything, it would be the fact that I wasted my time responding, which, in that case, you might say "TURN OFF NOTIFICATIONS" to which I would perhaps reply with "I don't mind notifications actually. Police someone else-" Yeah, basically a repeat of what I said here... And then somebody gets so hyper technical in correcting me to the point where the conversation never ends and correction upon correction upon correction upo-

Welp, clearly from this you can tell how "High IQ" I am... Now I'm gonna stop spitting out my semantics...

I have a great idea: TURN. OFF. VOICE. CHAT. I can't believe people still complain about this like it's an issue.


Back 4 Blood's extremely strong release gives me hope.


you know its funny there is a difference between playing mario kart 8 on my switch with a friend and playing it online. its clearly not the same but it is hard to find friends to play with.


I like older games. Reasons?:
1) devs actually put some effort and love to those games (I mean for PS1, PS2 and all games from 1995 to 2010 with some newer exceptions),
2) they were cheaper and weren't just one big money grab,
3) they're legendary (in my opinion)

I don't really care about graphics or if it is multiplayer. I like game series like HλLF-LIFE, Gran Turismo, TrackMania, Penumbra, Resident Evil and games like Amnesia: The Dark Descent, SOMA, Hrot and Art of Rally (some of those are actually newer games).
Most of the newer games are boring and non-interesting. I wanted to buy PS4 and only games I would play on it are TrackMania Turbo and after launch Gran Turismo 7 (which I think will be train wreck at some point).
And small advice: If you wanna play videogames then buy PC. It's better, you can play everything on computer and if you wouldn't like any game on your Steam or Epic library, then you can create your own game of dreams...


I think the industry has gotten shallower as games have become mainstream, but I still think great games come out. I still enjoy playing games with my friends.


i think half-life: alyx is a good advancement in the half-life franchise. it took valve's problem-solving approach to VR instead of physics or graphics


2:00
Beloved Videogame Series in The 2010s : (Gets turned into corporatized shells of themselves)
Half Life : "No, Thanks. I Choose Death !"

2:00
Beloved Videogame Series in The 2010s : _(Gets turned into corporatized shells of themselves)_
Half Life : _"No, Thanks. I Choose Death !"_


I think you misrepresented hype bubbles a bit. No Man's Sky had many promises outright stated that ended up being lies, and Artifact was Valves grand new AMAZING TITLE THAT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING except its just another card game in the already flooded market of card games trying to chase Hearthstone's success. It wasnt the hype and dissapointment that ruined those games.


I agree with most of your points in this video, however both No Man's Sky and Artifact deserved the hate they received. Just like how you mention how games are now launched in an unfinished state cuz they can patch it later, NMS is an example of that but worst yet, mixed with pre-release bullshit material that make it look way better than it actually is. If the game would have been released in the state it was 1 year~ after release then everything would have been ok even if that type of game is not my cup of tea, but they were clearly hyping up the game wayyy too much for their own good with outright deceiving marketing material. Keep your marketing material at least somewhat honest instead of trying to hype it up as a game so vast and deep you've never seen anything like it before.

Similar deal with Artifact, everything Valve needed to do was not to present it as the next big thing they were making and instead keep a more humble approach while being aware of what they audience is expecting from a Valve announcement. Worst yet, Artifact felt like a game more busy with being a storefront rather than a fun game itself, it totally deserved it's bad reputation during it's entire life.


Damn that clay world clip brought back some great memories


You missed an opportunity for the "most successful game of the 2010s" to be a game like grand theft auto 5 then fake out to minecraft


I agree with many points here, but I also feel the need to point out that there's certainly a fair bit of survivor bias in this discussion. By definition, we remember the most memorable and excellent games the most and forget, at least partially, about blander games or outright blunders (unless the blunder was monumental a la E.T.).
With more games being made than ever and them being more profitable than ever there's more outrageous moneygrabs and mediocre samey series, but there's also still master pieces like the last of us, Sekiro and God of War.
I don't know why I'm comenting on a year old video, lmao.

you just reiterated what he meant. single player games are declining and you can really only pick a few games that's really good while majority is samey or boring or rely too much on microtransactions or multi-player.<br>and the mix of so many options even if they are there same, but back then, we learned to play and enjoy the game because it was with other people or the games were made for us HAVING to learn...like what sekiro did. sekiro isn't that great. it's a suited up throwback. a platformer that doesn't hold your hand. you HACE to learn or suffer

you just reiterated what he meant. single player games are declining and you can really only pick a few games that's really good while majority is samey or boring or rely too much on microtransactions or multi-player.
and the mix of so many options even if they are there same, but back then, we learned to play and enjoy the game because it was with other people or the games were made for us HAVING to learn...like what sekiro did. sekiro isn't that great. it's a suited up throwback. a platformer that doesn't hold your hand. you HACE to learn or suffer


Nascar games were amazing and edgy back then... Was it 05' we got the Viper and Corvette to race in? I believe the Monte SS as well? Or was it a Cobalt? Either way 🤣 The Ford vs Chevy/Ford Racing roster mixes it up


It’s actually quite surprising in this era how complete FFR1 was….


The reason Arifiact failed so spectacularly had way less to do with the fan reaction and more to do with its god awful business model.  First you buy artifact, then you pay more money to either buy packs or buy cards.  The packs that could contain cards that everyone was given for free in the decks the game gave you at the start.  So if you bought packs you could wind up with multiple extra copies you couldn't use or sell because everyone had them and no one's going to buy them on the marketplace.  Or you could buy a deck for the auction house on top of the $20 you spent for the base game.  The $20 was either super greedy, super stupid or super cynical in that they knew they had a dud and use it as quick cash grab to recoup their money.

Also I don' t think there was much of a way to earn free packs or breakdown cards to craft news ones, the packs you bought you had to either sell the cards you didn't want on the marketplace or sit on them.  In comparision to Hearthstone a game thats not particulary generous at all, it looked incredibly stingy and expensive.  If it had a better business model it may have been able to carve out a niche. From what I saw of it, it looked decent if a little complex, but some people wouldve wanted that.

To say it failed just because of the fans reaction only is a vast oversimpilification and not even remotely it's biggest issue.  It didn't help sure but it doesn't help your arguement in this video.

I didn't even play the game, I watched some streams but mostly the business model was so fascinatingly bad even 2 years on i can remeber most of the details.

to add to this is the really fucking awful design for their "lanes", you might as well have been playing three games at the same time and it was really uncreative as the decks for each lane were practically uninteractable with the rest of the board, they just "AHHHH DOTA HAS THREE LANES YES? SO YOU PLAY THREE GAMES!!!! AHHH IMMA GENIUS" <br>On top of that theres the fucking monetization but you already explained that part, and yes the only way to get rid of cards was to sell them on marketplace.

to add to this is the really fucking awful design for their "lanes", you might as well have been playing three games at the same time and it was really uncreative as the decks for each lane were practically uninteractable with the rest of the board, they just "AHHHH DOTA HAS THREE LANES YES? SO YOU PLAY THREE GAMES!!!! AHHH IMMA GENIUS"
On top of that theres the fucking monetization but you already explained that part, and yes the only way to get rid of cards was to sell them on marketplace.


Midnight club 3 literally changed my life I miss games like that


The path of the indie dev is ironically becoming the least risky. The worst case scenario is you losing some time and some money. God forbid you go work for someone like Blizzard.


Hey man, cool video, I don't totally agree that games have gone down hill, but that's besides the point. I will not sit here and let you call pokepark pikachu's adventure shovelware. That game is fantastic and shaped my childhood


its so frustrating not being able to play with my friends unless we have 2 consoles, 2 tvs, & 2 games<br>ok i get why online play is more popular but why cant we have both?

its so frustrating not being able to play with my friends unless we have 2 consoles, 2 tvs, & 2 games
ok i get why online play is more popular but why cant we have both?


> "if you released a broken game 20 years ago people just wouldn't buy it"<br>Except yes they would, because review culture was non-existent and customer information was sparse - if you wanted to know what to buy you first had to buy a magazine.

> "if you released a broken game 20 years ago people just wouldn't buy it"
Except yes they would, because review culture was non-existent and customer information was sparse - if you wanted to know what to buy you first had to buy a magazine.

They would buy it. But their opinion of the game won’t spread far, meaning the game might not get publicity for being bad. and they might even be in the minority of people who dislike the game, too.

Deplorable Degenerate Rental stores still buy copys of course, so it’s money for the devs and publisher. I think most adults use word of mouth when they can, but when you’re the person trying something first out of your friends, the internet is a valuable resource. Children do this on a smaller scale, usually because they’re in very small social groups. Back when reviews weren’t so easy to find, the only resources you had were the games marketing and maybe your friends opinions. This meant that games focusing on marketing over quality gameplay was just smart business, and that of course led to the market crash.

@Sam Undef3 or rent it I guess but I still depend more on people I know- even online- more than strangers or videogame 'journalists'

Deplorable Degenerate which means people in your playground have to buy it for you to find out. That means that part of every playground had people who bought the game in order to tell people their opinion. With the internet or typical word of mouth, if a game is bad nobody you know have to buy it in order for you to know it’s bad.

maxnul i miss Club Nintendo they don’t sell it in DR anymore

@Deplorable Degenerate I'm not arguing that the basic ability to talk to another person online didn't exist though.

Bro, the internet and word of mouth existed in the 20th century. Hard to believe, I know.

@Shoeshine Yeah of course. Commercial reviews had to be semi-reliable at least or they wouldn't get off the ground. What I meant was there were no user channels like Twitter or Metacritic or Steam to easily slam a company with mass awareness grassroots campaigns when they did something stupid enough to piss off buyers but not to piss off reviewers who were receiving commissions for their articles.

Well they would refund it atleast

And I do remember gaming magazines actually be better of quality as well
As well as trade store owners that would sometimes warn you about how bad it is

Literally the entire back half of the Atari era was this, we’re just more aware of the products we buy

@Sabbath lying is not a new concept. Just because there are novel ways of review tampering today does not mean paid reviews in general did not exist in the past.

The 2000s had the internet and reviews were still popular, if not even more important since there's more honesty and acurracy in reviewing back then than now. Shit like the Driv3r gate where you rush a game then pay reviewers to praise it anyways is commonplace today

lmao, zoomers don't know about why the big videogame crash happened and what a shift it caused in the market and buying habits of people.

@Brupcat i....don't think you know what reading comprehension is.....

@Brupcat if they didn't sell well, people wouldn't make them. It's pretty clear that making schlock sells at least as much as is required to make them. It's the same for the B movie genre.

One of my favorite games of all time is Duel Masters: Kaijudo Showdown for the GBA, little did I know that a lot of people hated the game and despised the entire series for being considered a Yu-Gi-Oh clone ripoff.

Honestly for me I just decided to return the game if I didn't like it

@Frog Glen Not as well back then. Also, to add to Emplemon's point about youtube reviewers influencing people's opinions about games before they even release, they also often spoil the game's plot as well.

@Doom58 which is also wrong because bad games still sold well 👀

i think emplemon was speaking from a context that people already knew the game was bad

Not really. Word of mouth spreads much faster than you think.

@Michael Flarkin It's still a big deal now. Things haven't changed with most of the culture, there's just a giant, multi-billion dollar elephant in the room now.

Someones forgetting about this magical place called Blockbuster and later gamefly

it wouldn't typically garner a huge audience is the major difference. You didn't see big rigs flying off the shelves, but if it were released now on mobile, it'd probably make a good sum.

It would get refunded and their next game probably would get less interest

People werent that dumb

I was a magazine kid I remember reading Club Nintendo in Venezuela all the time

he means that most people wouldn't buy it making the game a failure

ya like as a kid I bought bubsy 3d for the PS1 because I had no idea what it was like but thought the character looked cool. Turns out the game was utter garbage. Not like I had much of a good way to find that out back then.


I mean one should also blame the consumers as well. Despite all the problems mentioned, people still buy games from companies that are responsible for unfinished bad game design and boring games in general


i learned somthing after 5k hour of 5v5 pvp shooters, 1k hours of exp and money grinding and many mouses and keyboards broken.<br>i learned that, video games points dont metter and if im not having fun i NEED to stop playing, and go do something else, its hard to cut loose the needing to win every match, to squeeze every bit of dmg and exp from a quest but its so rewarding to get play 5 LOL games, lose 5 of then and just be happy because doesnt matter that i loose, i enjoyed playing anyway

i learned somthing after 5k hour of 5v5 pvp shooters, 1k hours of exp and money grinding and many mouses and keyboards broken.
i learned that, video games points dont metter and if im not having fun i NEED to stop playing, and go do something else, its hard to cut loose the needing to win every match, to squeeze every bit of dmg and exp from a quest but its so rewarding to get play 5 LOL games, lose 5 of then and just be happy because doesnt matter that i loose, i enjoyed playing anyway


I can name 7 games made post-2009 that I enjoyed. Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare, Superhot, Geometry Dash, GTA V, Retro Bowl, Madden 19, Prison Architect.

I can name 267 made between 1992 and 2009.


The biggest problem is the quality of video game developers has dropped enormously.


DOOM Eternal for me feels like the most “video game” video game I’ve played in such a long time. I don’t really know how to explain it. After years of multiplayer live service games, DOOM Eternal feels like a return to the old. I remember when I bought it at launch and had a fucking blast playing it from beginning to end. No annoying bugs. No microtransactions. No bullshit. It was an experience that I will always be grateful to id Software for.

You'll be happy to hear that DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal have made serious waves in the indie scene. Lots of good games to be found: Dusk, Amid Evil, Ultrakill, Turbo Overkill, Prodeus, Nightmare Reaper and probably many others I am not aware of!

I HIGHLY recommend Ultrakill

It's made to be fun, it's made to be the best game the devs could make, it's not made to have a message, it's not made to be a cash cow, it captures the spirit from the og and the older gaming industry


A year later and this aged like the finest wine in France


As a woman who was born in 2001, I admit that most of the games that I tend to play are from before the 2010s and my 2 most favorite consoles are the PS2 and Dreamcast. The vast majority of tech, gaming, and Hollywood sure have lost their spark and soul over the past decade.....and the internet and society have gotten gradually worse each year.... It's like the world just isn't as fun as it used to be.... At this point, it's safe to say that it needs a revolution so badly.... The world and its governments just asking for it. 😐


I love how half life is not bad, but not there, though I’m still really happy with Half life Alyx


Ninja Gaiden 2 will never, and I mean never, get old for me. 13 year old game, and a masterpiece. Never will I ever leave it. There is, and never will be, anything like it again.


11:17 ya know, as much as I hate Jimmy Kimmel's guts I can't help but agree that people making money playing video games when they barely bring anything to the table makes absolutely no sense. I'll watch someone from time to time if they're really really good or constantly spit out comedic gold like any other sane person would, but actually giving money to people like Ninja who aren't exactly the best at the game and not even close to being the funniest is beyond insane to me.

11:17 ya know, as much as I hate Jimmy Kimmel's guts I can't help but agree that people making money playing video games when they barely bring anything to the table makes absolutely no sense. I'll watch someone from time to time if they're really *_really_* good or constantly spit out comedic gold like any other sane person would, but actually giving money to people like Ninja who aren't exactly the best at the game and not even close to being the funniest is beyond insane to me.

ninja used to be the best and was the funniest

I feel like it’s a thing you grow out of. As a kid I would watch the big gaming channels play Minecraft for hours every day. Now whenever I see a gaming video in my recommended I don’t even acknowledge it’s existence.

@Alex F. not true at all. It feels more like common sense.


Gamers don't know what the hell they want. For years people were clamoring, demanding, and expecting better and better graphics. They would ridicule a game if it looked "2 years old" on the day it was released. Now we have games with all the graphical fidelity in the world and they suck.


I think you're giving too much weight  to the power the consumer actually has to influence the success of a game. Few games are as univerally memed about as Call of Duty and Fortnite yet they're still massively popular.

Artifact wasn't dead on arrival because it was rejected by some people at a gaming expo. Artifact was dead on arrival because it was a pitiful attempt to cash in on an oversaturated market. Clones of established properties always fail.

The majority was never going to play Artifact rather than Hearthstone no matter what the PR was like.


I love how every second of Emplemon’s discourses have such amusing and creative edits thrown in to along with everything he says.


I feel like there’s too much “open world” going on…


EA is the definition of a downward spiral

ubisofts symbol is legit a downward spiral


Oh god, I never realized that ea was once good before. (With it's sports games.)


All I know is Red Dead Redemption 2 is amazing, and I play the heck outta that game, best 40 bucks I ever spent