Because they have literally no other option. Even with their magic and flight, they were hopelessly outmatched. Frankly, if Discord wasn't more interested in having fun than winning, he would never have lost in the first place
42:27 Discord's glass filled from the top down. Then he drank the glass, leaving the chocolate milk behind, and threw it away where it blew up. Who storyboarded this sequence and what the hell were they smoking?
To be fair, it does make a twisted sort of sense, just as everything Discord does does.
The glass filled from the top down, setting the tone of reversal. Drinking the glass and leaving the milk fits this tone of reversal. Throwing it and it blowing up make sense because normally chocolate milk would splatter down to the ground, not blow up into the air.
@@uronten6975 Nothing here to really argue on our original point, I agree you probably can't at this point.
However I will say: The ponyverse timeline is in fact deterministic. This is proven in the episode with Twilight's time loop. If it wasn't deterministic, time loops- and especially bootstrap paradoxes- wouldn't be possible or at least much less stable. I think. I'm not an expert on this anymore, it's been years since I've given much thought to this kind of stuff. As well, Discord is omnipotent, not omniscient. This is displayed many times. It's very possible, likely even, that for his grove of truth he simply reached into the future and pulled her answer from it, instead of already knowing her answer.
@@ChiropteraNightfall I'm also getting bored with this discussion so this will be mine last reply. I have nothing new to add in terms of similarity of discording AJ, Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy. If you don't accept my foregoing arguments there's no way I can persuade you. Nevertheless, I think I've come up with new way of thinking about lake scene.
From our perspective we know that the lake vision was true (let's assume for the sake of the argument that colors difference aren't important), but I would still argue they weren't true at the time when they were shown to AJ. First it can't be completely denied that ponies have free will. If they do, then no proposition about the future (concerning ponies, not still life) isn't true or false till it happens. It's undetermined, because ponies can choose whatever they want. So if you think he showed AJ the truth, you must also accept that ponies don't have free will. But alright, maybe indeed they don't have free will. Maybe the world of MLP is deterministic. Then if Discord could have predicted the future action of ponies, he would be able to show AJ the truth. But even if ponies don't have free will Discord clearly can't predict their future behavior. He was genuinely surprised that Fluttershy didn't fall for his tricks, so there's no way he knows the future. So given that; how is it possible he could truly show AJ, that the friendship of mane 6 will be over? He planned that no matter what ponies will do or how they'll react he would hypnotise them. So AJ either realized all that and was upset because she knew Discord would win no matter what or she thought that lake vision referred to the mane 6 without them being discorded. There was no rational third option for her to believe
@@uronten6975 Fluttershy is a unique case, Discord genuinely cheated with her so you can't take her as an example of what he was doing with everypony else. Not only that, but that had none of the hypnosis signs the rest of his actions had. Of course without it AJ and Pinkie would have recovered, but his hypnosis didn't break them in the first place, it just kept them broken by Discording them. Applejack is in fact not one of the ponies that would have understood what them being gray would mean. And knowing Pinkie changes with her mood is zero point of reference. Not only is that fucking Pinkie Pie, the only being to make less sense than Discord, but also it was just a deflated mane and tail and a very slight loss of saturation in Party of One. If I recall, anyway, I don't remember her going gray on her own until Yakity-Sax. Or whatever the episode in season 8/9 is with her weird instrument. Besides, even if she did think something was up with their colors, the future she saw still had Discord in charge, colors could mean anything, or mean literally nothing.
If Twilight had noticed the gray on her friends, she wouldn't have acted the way she did with them. She would be the kind of pony to make the connection of gray coat + acting strange = Discord did something.
I'm getting kind of bored with this debate. I might give a few more replies and bow out, for the sake of it takes forever to type these up on my laggy tablet with an oversensitive/undersensitive touchscreen. Plus I'm kind of starting to forget the original point of this all.
@@ChiropteraNightfall I wouldn't call it small push, I think it was crucial. And the hypnosis was enough to break them without them being broken beforehand, we can see its power in the Fluttershy case. She wasn't broken at all, but had no chance to resist it. Without it AJ and Pinkie would stay a little gloomy for a moment, but later they would return to normality. Not like Rarity or Twilight.
Animation oversight or not; it's a canon. Derpy's eyes also were animations oversight, but it doesn't mean they're not the canon. This situation is no different. Besides AJ is smart, she would figure out that them being grey is sign of something weird. She had already seen that Pinkie Pie's appearance can change drastically depending on her mental state, so the idea of mind-body connection wasn't new to her, which makes it more probable she would be way more reserved in her reaction to real truth. And what makes you think that Twilight didn't notice the coloring? She didn't say anything about that, but this doesn't mean she didn't notice it. I don't think we have any reasons to think she didn't notice it
@@uronten6975 They were all Discorded with magic, mate, otherwise they would have just been broken, not inverted. Ponies with the exception of Pinkie don't just naturally turn into the opposites of themselves and lose color when they get upset. But also his hypnosis was only a slight push for all but Fluttershy, so it's not really cheating considering it wouldn't have been enough to break them if they weren't already broken.
As for them not being gray in the lake, you have a point. However, counterpoint, it's highly unlikely that particular detail would have mattered whether shown or not (I personally think it was just an animation oversight). Not only did Twilight not notice the gray coloring at first, Applejack would have no reason to think being gray would mean they weren't in their right minds. Which is why I think it was an animation oversight, why would Discord obscure something that doesn't need to be obscured? Even if not an animation oversight though, I don't think it's a big enough to deal for us to consider it a bigger deception than it was.
@@ChiropteraNightfall Discord did lie to Applejack. It was indeed true that their friendship will be over, but notice the colors that the mane 6 have in the lake scene. They have their standard colors and it indicates that they'll broke their friendship in their full mental capabilities. That's a straight lie. And the only way to turn AJ into gray version of herself was to induce her in quasi-psychedelic trance while using dirty magic. Similarly with Pinkie Pie. Just take a look at the eyes of the balloon Discord. His eyes start to spin before Pinkie collapses. That's straight cheating. Only Rarity and Twilight were turned into gray without his hypnosis. It it really obvious only for me how different AJ , Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy cases were from those of Rarity and Twilight?
@@uronten6975 Mate, Discord told Applejack the truth. It wasn't the whole truth, at most it was a lie of omission, but it was the truth. She couldn't handle it, and so she /let/ herself get Discorded into being a liar so she wouldn't have to face the truth she was given. My prior explanation with Pinkie was entirely accurate. Discord made her believe that every laugh she got was directed at her and not with her, sp she let herself get Discorded to be joyless to keep others from laughing at her. Rainbow Dash was given what was for her an impossible choice between loyalty to her friends and loyalty to her home. He might not have been bluffing, but he definitely gave her an extra push with his initial hypnosis to make her believe he wasn't bluffing so I'm inclined to believe he was. Also, Discord wouldn't kill for the same reason he dislikes turning ponies into stone: death or petrification just isn't chaotic. Dropping Cloudsdale would definitely kill some ponies, ponies he wouldn't be able to mess with in the future. Like not wanting to break a toy.
This is an episode I've given a lot of thought into, with how much it implies for the properties of the different Elements and how much it reveals when it comes to the traits of their Bearers.
@@ChiropteraNightfall AJ became a liar because Discord hypnotized her. She knew it wasn't the truth, it was shown very clearly. Similarly Pinkie Pie. I think you confuse AJ's and Pinkie Pie's state of being disturbed because of Discord's creepy tricks with genuine falling for his manipulations. And I'm not sure if he lied to Rainbow Dash. It's quite plausible he would actually destroy the Cloudsdale if she didn't go there, so it was loyal of her to go there. Basically she was put to the choice where every option was bad, but she chose the lesser evil.
@@uronten6975 Applejack became a liar because she couldn't handle the truth, and it was the truth, even if a selective and manipulative one. Pinkie was tricked into thinking that everypony was laughing at her instead of with her, which took all the joy from everything she normally is. Rarity might be the element of generosity, but she's not naturally generous, it's something she works at, so her natural greed was taken advantage of. Rainbow was honestly the second closest to cheating Discord came, using his hypnosis to make her believe Cloudsdale would fall without her. I don't think she would have fallen for it without his extra push, but I'm sure he could have given her some kind of Loyalty dilemma between Equestria and her friends or something to break her without nearly cheating.
Fluttershy is the only one he really had to cheat with.
Technically he also didn't take advantage of Applejack and Pinkie Pie. AJ knew it couldn't be the truth and she was hypnotized in a similar manner to Fluttershy. Pinkie Pie knew that her friends respected her and was only upset because of these creepy balloons. She would keep her composure, unless she was hypothesized. Also Rainbow Dash technically stayed loyal to her nation. But essentially she couldn't be loyal both to her friends and to the pegasi race, so she made a choice. The only one that really flipped were Rarity and Twilight
Shy has anger problems. Mainly because she never lets it out most of the time, so when she does it gets extreme. Putting Your Hoof Down, the episode where she took over Rarity's Manehattan branch later in the series- forget that episodes name-, Discorded Fluttershy I will agree that Shy has the strongest will of them all though, when she applies it, so Discord couldn't really do anything to her without cheating.
I truly do love Discord. Chaos, but actual chaos and not just randomness like some see it as. Every chaotic thing Discord does makes a twisted and sometimes obscure scrap of sense, instead of just being completely off the wall nuts.
The part where Discord tries to trick Fluttershy by becoming a butterfly is very much the same as in that one Powerpuff Girls episode where HIM gives Bubbles a package of cursed chalk and tells her to use her imagination and stuff, but when she does all her drawings come to life and start causing trouble. I can't get that image out of my head when I see this part.
I always headcanonned that the mayhem that the Mane 6 caused at the Gala was what started to free Discord after the Elements connection was broken and the CMC fighting was what finally pushed it over the edge.
This may not be the place to ask but when princess sunbutt did that whole head bobbing thing was she nameing twilight and her friends as knights of equestria
Oh wow! After watching all of you reactions I actually forgot about these glasses! Ima continue the count how many glasses for each episode after you stop counting to see how many you would’ve had if you didint stop wearing them 😂
And then in season 9, Celestia and Luna turned somepony to stone WITHOUT the need of the elements. So.... really they could´ve done that to Discord as well. But, of course, the episode WOULD be much shorter and less interesting XD
To be honest, if I could relate with any MLP reformed villain, Discord is my choice. He may have been bad in Season 2 and part of Season 3, but he is virtually like me. We both actually seem to be interested in a world built in our view and in pure instability. We also have attempted to gain trust with intention to abuse it (though Discord immediately stopped after realizing Fluttershy's disappointment with his actions, while I basically continued with my bad behavior even after I realized what I was doing; I promised I'd respect a guy I hated and my parents trusted me enough to continue to support me, then brutally tried to poke his eyes out later, continuing until my father scared me enough to stop). We also can easily get tricked (Tirek forced Discord to betray the ponies, and I have been tricked into becoming friends with people who would then abuse me with rudeness). I also once didn't like communicating with others and use questionable ways to ask for favors (like in A Matter of Principals, where Discord shows scary behavior to show how he feels, similar to how I once was being over punished by my parents and kept on having worse behavior afterwards to show that I wasn't feeling well from it). Most of all, we have done extreme or unacceptable things to get what we want (Discord pretended to be Grogar because he wanted to boost Twilight's confidence and support which lead to near destruction of Equestria, and also wanted to make Fluttershy the star of a special episode by unleashing a dangerous creature in Twilight's castle, while mine were more selfish, with me getting myself suspended because I wanted to transfer schools).
Maybe this is why discord falls for fluttershy,she see's through his lies,and it makes him wonder about even friendship with a Pegasus mare,and we thought Apple jack was into honesty,it seems fluttershy has her beat as the element of honesty,maybe they should have switched elements,but then this would mean the ponies choose what element they bond with,and its not preordained on them.
Over mail delivery causing severe cramps,and bloating in dragons who knew,I guess giving him Pepto bismol wouldn't help spike even if I gave him full bottles of the stuff.
I could see rainbow dash take spike up on his wanting to fly,and she dropping him,this thought would scare me also,considering how high pegasi can go up in the sky,he might be dragon pizza before twilight found him.
The CMS : fight because they don’t care. Everyone: the cms just summoned an evil sorcery. My cousins: the fuck I don’t care , Fight fight fight !!!!!!!!
This irony is kinda funny how much these ponies push friendship,and now they want their friendships to die,was Celestia aware of this among ponies,reminds of the Murray head Bangkok song about chess where he say thank god i'm only controlling the game,meaning he's manipulating folks,or in these episodes ponies.
She's as greedy as spike gets when he wants stuff,too bad he's a dragon and rarity is a unicorn mare,or she and him wouldn't need stuff,just each other to keep each other happy,but even the best friendships need change,or they get dull.
John delancie seemed to be having fun reprising his star character q,in pony form as discord,tells us how popular star trek was,wonder why they didn't put pony versions of the Borg in fim,which pony would be Picard,and which pony would be the borg queen,maybe chrysalis later,and would Jeri Ryan have gotten. a pony voice.
@@m.e.s.d.l._2005 I love the good discord more than the evil discord. Because next time the ponies release him, they’re not gonna believe and trust discord after what he’s done
Lucky they restored rainbow dash,I've been kicked by a horse,and it hurt,imagine a magic enhanced horse,it must feel even worse,especially. if the magic flowing through their bodies really kicks in the adrenal glands,look at what applejack does,and big Mac as well does,and this makes the ponies in mlp dangerous,whatever generation.
After this episode applejack has a big bruise on her muzzle,and rarity has a nasty grin, that makes spike's crush on rarity disappear as fast as it came.
I could see rainbow dash after she found out asking spike if he wanted a ride,and if I were spike I would decline rainbow's offer unless he wants to be a dragon pancake,since cloudsdale has to be over 10000 feet high in the sky,then twilight might beat up rainbow dash for hurting her adopted brother/friend,even if twilight was a small pony she was built sturdy so she could take a licking and keep on trotting.
I imagine when mitch aka MA Larson has Andrea,and Ashleigh who voice 2 mares,Andrea,and Ashleigh have fun with their pony characters,like if we stand in front of mirror,and make funny faces at ourselves,unless the voice actors are meant to be serious,this also gives more of the crew of these shows a chance to expand the actors range,probably why Tara,and Tabitha get so many roles for their voices,and emotions,if I were this type of actor,I would need alot of medicine such as cough drops not to burn out my emotions,and voice,especially if your voice,and emotions get you work,and if you got stuff like laryngitis work offers might not come around as often, I imagine since Tara has a voice acting studio at her house in Los Angeles she probably gets to train alot of voice actors successfully,but I wouldn't say to Tara to get a great grade,I liked her as twilight sparkle in fim,she might feel I was buttering her up so she might give me a bad grade,which means she's a honest teacher,and that she's trying to create the best future voice actors for Hollywood not make celebrities,learned this when I was in high school,and had a cousin as substitute teacher in one of my classes,and I mostly got c's,instead of a's,but had less fun when I had to go to my cousin's house.
5:38 RIIIIIIIIGHT, Famous last words. 5:50 ROLL THE CREDITS 6:44 Another example of why we love Pinkie Pie 7:43 First reaction versus show finale. No, I'm not sorry. 8:40 DOVahKiiN, DOVahKiiN, NaaL OK ZIN LOS VahRiiN... As well as a lot of others main characters in video games. 8:59 Tridashie spoiled me, so... CHOCOLATE RAIN! ETERNAL CHAOS COMES WITH CHOCOLATE RAIN! CHOCOLATE RAIN! ETERNAL CHAOS COMES WITH CHOCOLATE RAIN! 11:06 Extremely dirty. Love it. 12:11 AAAAAAND Roll the credits. AGAIN. 12:17 Change her horn for a sword and Twilight for a knight and you'll get the Idea. 16:26 YUP, not creepy at all. 17:59 Great timing. 23:11 ROLL THE CREDITS, DAMMIT! 23:55 THEY GROW SO FAST 27:56 Hey, Applegeek, what's up? 30:03 That wouldn't be chaotic. And Discord is Embodiment of chaos. 31:40 The word you looking for is Trickster. 34:08 That was good. 39:44 "Yeah, why don't you suck my bottom, you dumb pussy? Swag." 39:59 Gotta love sassy AJ 43:14*Insert your Fame and Misfortune joke here* 44:02 TASTE THE didn't I just did it on different Season Premiere? 44:35 And a bit of a homage to a classics. I mean, it's not like they had a ton of references throughout the show up to this point (and after)
In that scene the ponies should ask where she got the jewlery,and when she said got the jewels fromcelestia rarity says she knows a good lawyer to sue Celestia for being a con pony,and we find out twilight's mother velvet did it to get back at Celestia for taking her daughter,and this is why shining armor became a royal guard cause it was really a boot camp for bad ponies,and cadance seduced shining the first day.
This is why I wonder if we humans didn't create discord,and to mess with most of us he turned us into colorful ponies,and mlp is our earth in the future,since why do alot of pony cities have human names like Manhattan. aka manehattan,and why do ponies walk,and talk like us humans,and live in homes,and sleep on beds,discord's magic might be part radioactive,like after Godzilla went from a normal lizard to a 207-405 ft fire breathing dragon as shown in Japanese 1954 version of Godzilla,which out did Raymond burr's American version in 1955,and this came from the bomb Oppenheimer created in New Mexico in 1945.
I love how Andrea is having fun with herself as pinkie pie,and fluttershy Tara,and Tabitha were the only two not having fun like Ashleigh,and Andrea had voicing 2 mares in these episodes.
Gather we don't mess with ponies of mlp when they get colorless,and cranky,or they start having fits,and we think the yaks are bad later. on,they never met colorless cranky ponies of mlp before.
You know your sick when you start throwing up mail,I wouldn't want to spike at this point,I guess if we were derpy aka muffins she would probably. get a month off.
I feel mars candies should of asked hasbro for the ponies to sell skittles,imagine what both Mars candies,and hasbro would get out of the mlp ponies saying taste the rainbow especially for all the mlp generations it might a gold mine,since some of the mlp ponies cutie marks aka butt flank tatoos are candies such as bon bon's aka sweetie drops,and peppermint candies,and cotton candy so the mlp ponies would become even more famous,since everyplace i've been sells skittles as stores,or movie theaters,so Hasbro,and Mars candies could make boat loads of reverse cash,since I just saw a mustard flavored skittles to honor mustard day,not a flavor I would want,except probably on a bun , hot dog with ketchup,relish,suarerkraut,and maybe cheese.
we know ponies grunt,but if I hear them growl I'm backing away,even extremely cute colorful friendly ponies in mlp,there twilight sounds like Winona,and if a little cartoon horse sounds like that,something's definitely not right with them.
"Why are we agreeing to your game?"
107 likesBecause they have literally no other option. Even with their magic and flight, they were hopelessly outmatched. Frankly, if Discord wasn't more interested in having fun than winning, he would never have lost in the first place
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@@Icy-be5vl But the magic of friendship always wins
1 likeActually in MLP world I would be Discord but I am more about defeating my enemies but in Discord way so it means that I would won.
0 likesDiscord made his game his way
1 like42:27 Discord's glass filled from the top down. Then he drank the glass, leaving the chocolate milk behind, and threw it away where it blew up.
255 likesWho storyboarded this sequence and what the hell were they smoking?
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To be fair, it does make a twisted sort of sense, just as everything Discord does does.
6 likesThe glass filled from the top down, setting the tone of reversal. Drinking the glass and leaving the milk fits this tone of reversal. Throwing it and it blowing up make sense because normally chocolate milk would splatter down to the ground, not blow up into the air.
@@Haxior5506 :P
2 likes@@Genesivare kaboom
2 likes@@ShadowBoltTF2 it's a crazy and chaotic world out there
3 likes1. there was smoke after the explosion and no they werent smoking
8 likes2. when he drank the glass, it was like water
3. it's a chaotic storyboard
@@Genesivare :O
7 likesYou forgot to mention that the explosion darkened the surroundings instead of lightening it.
44 likesShadowBolt lol
8 likesThat's chaos for you. It doesn't make sense and it doesn't have to. lmao
83 likesI find it funny how Fluttershy wasn't fooled by discord. Yet her stare doesn't work on him.
67 likes"Chaos is a wonderful wonderful thing" I love Discord so freakin' much.
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You are not the only one
0 likesNo kidding
0 likesIcy and dresses and high heels are wonderful, wonderful things.
0 likes@@Psychowolftamer he’s better in other episodes
0 likesHe's much better in the older episodes
3 likes@@princessstarlaixyarixes8103 That's rarity's thing
0 likesChaos is everything to discord
1 likeFashion is wonderful thing and beauty.
4 likesI love how the episode with the Star Trek villain gets a Star Wars ending.
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Me too
0 likes@@twist58 The Mane 6 make a great team of sensational six
1 likePony Trek, Pony Wars
3 likesQ moved on from pestering Captain Picard to pestering six colorful ponies.
14 likesIf he did take advantage of their negative traits, Fluttershy doesn't have one. Man, I love that pony so much.
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@@uronten6975 Nothing here to really argue on our original point, I agree you probably can't at this point.
0 likesHowever I will say: The ponyverse timeline is in fact deterministic. This is proven in the episode with Twilight's time loop. If it wasn't deterministic, time loops- and especially bootstrap paradoxes- wouldn't be possible or at least much less stable. I think. I'm not an expert on this anymore, it's been years since I've given much thought to this kind of stuff.
As well, Discord is omnipotent, not omniscient. This is displayed many times. It's very possible, likely even, that for his grove of truth he simply reached into the future and pulled her answer from it, instead of already knowing her answer.
@@ChiropteraNightfall I'm also getting bored with this discussion so this will be mine last reply. I have nothing new to add in terms of similarity of discording AJ, Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy. If you don't accept my foregoing arguments there's no way I can persuade you. Nevertheless, I think I've come up with new way of thinking about lake scene.
0 likesFrom our perspective we know that the lake vision was true (let's assume for the sake of the argument that colors difference aren't important), but I would still argue they weren't true at the time when they were shown to AJ. First it can't be completely denied that ponies have free will. If they do, then no proposition about the future (concerning ponies, not still life) isn't true or false till it happens. It's undetermined, because ponies can choose whatever they want. So if you think he showed AJ the truth, you must also accept that ponies don't have free will. But alright, maybe indeed they don't have free will. Maybe the world of MLP is deterministic. Then if Discord could have predicted the future action of ponies, he would be able to show AJ the truth. But even if ponies don't have free will Discord clearly can't predict their future behavior. He was genuinely surprised that Fluttershy didn't fall for his tricks, so there's no way he knows the future. So given that; how is it possible he could truly show AJ, that the friendship of mane 6 will be over? He planned that no matter what ponies will do or how they'll react he would hypnotise them. So AJ either realized all that and was upset because she knew Discord would win no matter what or she thought that lake vision referred to the mane 6 without them being discorded. There was no rational third option for her to believe
@@uronten6975 Fluttershy is a unique case, Discord genuinely cheated with her so you can't take her as an example of what he was doing with everypony else. Not only that, but that had none of the hypnosis signs the rest of his actions had.
0 likesOf course without it AJ and Pinkie would have recovered, but his hypnosis didn't break them in the first place, it just kept them broken by Discording them.
Applejack is in fact not one of the ponies that would have understood what them being gray would mean. And knowing Pinkie changes with her mood is zero point of reference. Not only is that fucking Pinkie Pie, the only being to make less sense than Discord, but also it was just a deflated mane and tail and a very slight loss of saturation in Party of One. If I recall, anyway, I don't remember her going gray on her own until Yakity-Sax. Or whatever the episode in season 8/9 is with her weird instrument. Besides, even if she did think something was up with their colors, the future she saw still had Discord in charge, colors could mean anything, or mean literally nothing.
If Twilight had noticed the gray on her friends, she wouldn't have acted the way she did with them. She would be the kind of pony to make the connection of gray coat + acting strange = Discord did something.
I'm getting kind of bored with this debate. I might give a few more replies and bow out, for the sake of it takes forever to type these up on my laggy tablet with an oversensitive/undersensitive touchscreen. Plus I'm kind of starting to forget the original point of this all.
@@ChiropteraNightfall I wouldn't call it small push, I think it was crucial. And the hypnosis was enough to break them without them being broken beforehand, we can see its power in the Fluttershy case. She wasn't broken at all, but had no chance to resist it. Without it AJ and Pinkie would stay a little gloomy for a moment, but later they would return to normality. Not like Rarity or Twilight.
0 likesAnimation oversight or not; it's a canon. Derpy's eyes also were animations oversight, but it doesn't mean they're not the canon. This situation is no different. Besides AJ is smart, she would figure out that them being grey is sign of something weird. She had already seen that Pinkie Pie's appearance can change drastically depending on her mental state, so the idea of mind-body connection wasn't new to her, which makes it more probable she would be way more reserved in her reaction to real truth. And what makes you think that Twilight didn't notice the coloring? She didn't say anything about that, but this doesn't mean she didn't notice it. I don't think we have any reasons to think she didn't notice it
@@uronten6975 They were all Discorded with magic, mate, otherwise they would have just been broken, not inverted. Ponies with the exception of Pinkie don't just naturally turn into the opposites of themselves and lose color when they get upset. But also his hypnosis was only a slight push for all but Fluttershy, so it's not really cheating considering it wouldn't have been enough to break them if they weren't already broken.
0 likesAs for them not being gray in the lake, you have a point. However, counterpoint, it's highly unlikely that particular detail would have mattered whether shown or not (I personally think it was just an animation oversight). Not only did Twilight not notice the gray coloring at first, Applejack would have no reason to think being gray would mean they weren't in their right minds. Which is why I think it was an animation oversight, why would Discord obscure something that doesn't need to be obscured? Even if not an animation oversight though, I don't think it's a big enough to deal for us to consider it a bigger deception than it was.
@@ChiropteraNightfall Discord did lie to Applejack. It was indeed true that their friendship will be over, but notice the colors that the mane 6 have in the lake scene. They have their standard colors and it indicates that they'll broke their friendship in their full mental capabilities. That's a straight lie. And the only way to turn AJ into gray version of herself was to induce her in quasi-psychedelic trance while using dirty magic. Similarly with Pinkie Pie. Just take a look at the eyes of the balloon Discord. His eyes start to spin before Pinkie collapses. That's straight cheating. Only Rarity and Twilight were turned into gray without his hypnosis. It it really obvious only for me how different AJ , Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy cases were from those of Rarity and Twilight?
0 likes@@uronten6975 Mate, Discord told Applejack the truth. It wasn't the whole truth, at most it was a lie of omission, but it was the truth. She couldn't handle it, and so she /let/ herself get Discorded into being a liar so she wouldn't have to face the truth she was given. My prior explanation with Pinkie was entirely accurate. Discord made her believe that every laugh she got was directed at her and not with her, sp she let herself get Discorded to be joyless to keep others from laughing at her. Rainbow Dash was given what was for her an impossible choice between loyalty to her friends and loyalty to her home. He might not have been bluffing, but he definitely gave her an extra push with his initial hypnosis to make her believe he wasn't bluffing so I'm inclined to believe he was. Also, Discord wouldn't kill for the same reason he dislikes turning ponies into stone: death or petrification just isn't chaotic. Dropping Cloudsdale would definitely kill some ponies, ponies he wouldn't be able to mess with in the future. Like not wanting to break a toy.
0 likesThis is an episode I've given a lot of thought into, with how much it implies for the properties of the different Elements and how much it reveals when it comes to the traits of their Bearers.
@@ChiropteraNightfall AJ became a liar because Discord hypnotized her. She knew it wasn't the truth, it was shown very clearly. Similarly Pinkie Pie. I think you confuse AJ's and Pinkie Pie's state of being disturbed because of Discord's creepy tricks with genuine falling for his manipulations. And I'm not sure if he lied to Rainbow Dash. It's quite plausible he would actually destroy the Cloudsdale if she didn't go there, so it was loyal of her to go there. Basically she was put to the choice where every option was bad, but she chose the lesser evil.
0 likes@@uronten6975 Applejack became a liar because she couldn't handle the truth, and it was the truth, even if a selective and manipulative one.
1 likePinkie was tricked into thinking that everypony was laughing at her instead of with her, which took all the joy from everything she normally is.
Rarity might be the element of generosity, but she's not naturally generous, it's something she works at, so her natural greed was taken advantage of.
Rainbow was honestly the second closest to cheating Discord came, using his hypnosis to make her believe Cloudsdale would fall without her. I don't think she would have fallen for it without his extra push, but I'm sure he could have given her some kind of Loyalty dilemma between Equestria and her friends or something to break her without nearly cheating.
Fluttershy is the only one he really had to cheat with.
Technically he also didn't take advantage of Applejack and Pinkie Pie. AJ knew it couldn't be the truth and she was hypnotized in a similar manner to Fluttershy. Pinkie Pie knew that her friends respected her and was only upset because of these creepy balloons. She would keep her composure, unless she was hypothesized. Also Rainbow Dash technically stayed loyal to her nation. But essentially she couldn't be loyal both to her friends and to the pegasi race, so she made a choice. The only one that really flipped were Rarity and Twilight
0 likesShy has anger problems. Mainly because she never lets it out most of the time, so when she does it gets extreme. Putting Your Hoof Down, the episode where she took over Rarity's Manehattan branch later in the series- forget that episodes name-, Discorded Fluttershy
0 likesI will agree that Shy has the strongest will of them all though, when she applies it, so Discord couldn't really do anything to her without cheating.
@@alexthehomboi Same.I like him
2 likes@@m.e.s.d.l._2005 I only like good discord
3 likes@@alexthehomboi Yeah Do you like him?
6 likesfluttershy was negative when she turned grey and bad
1 likeI truly do love Discord. Chaos, but actual chaos and not just randomness like some see it as. Every chaotic thing Discord does makes a twisted and sometimes obscure scrap of sense, instead of just being completely off the wall nuts.
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It's usually twisted version of something.
0 likesI remember on the first episode, when the intro was playing you said "I will never sing to this" or something on those lines.
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I'm sure everyone who's seen the show said something like that when they first heard the theme too but it does tend to grow on you after a while.
1 likeMY LITTLE PONY MY LITTLE PONY
0 likesThe part where Discord tries to trick Fluttershy by becoming a butterfly is very much the same as in that one Powerpuff Girls episode where HIM gives Bubbles a package of cursed chalk and tells her to use her imagination and stuff, but when she does all her drawings come to life and start causing trouble. I can't get that image out of my head when I see this part.
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and did you know that lauren faust is the wife of the creator of the power puff girls
0 likes"The looks on your faces? Priceless!"
15 likesFor everything else, there's MaresterCard.
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ive heard that on season 4 episode 1
0 likes(39:56) That quick-wittedness AJ threw at Rarity had me giggling.
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Applejack maybe sour on the outside but she sure is sweet on the inside
2 likesA little Star Was in My Little Pony is always a good thing!
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@@_veronica_r victory for ponies
1 likePony wars vs discord
0 likesIf I remember correctly, it's a direct shot-for-shot replication of one of the very early star wars episode endings
6 likesI love how Fluttershy drops the hammer like Tom Cruise does in Days of Thunder 41:29
4 likesI always headcanonned that the mayhem that the Mane 6 caused at the Gala was what started to free Discord after the Elements connection was broken and the CMC fighting was what finally pushed it over the edge.
1 like18:30 Take that out of context.
8 likes43:15 Most relatable quote ever.
For me in this episode we have the best lesson of the show. Great episode
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We learned that friendship is never easy
0 likes27:42 Damn, I'm glad I forgot this phrase, because of this it became ridiculously funny and exciting.
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DONT GIVE THE DRAMA TO THE MAMA
0 likesThis may not be the place to ask but when princess sunbutt did that whole head bobbing thing was she nameing twilight and her friends as knights of equestria
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Magic knights
1 like@DumFukkJuice heroes of equestria
1 likeOh wow! After watching all of you reactions I actually forgot about these glasses! Ima continue the count how many glasses for each episode after you stop counting to see how many you would’ve had if you didint stop wearing them 😂
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@@alexthehomboi 197
2 likes@@steathlizard3337 how many glasses total?
1 like@@alexthehomboi I actually finished the count lol the last count is in the “The end of the end reaction”
1 likeyou go glassman
2 likesAnd yes you don't know who John de Lancie is because that's what who voice Discord is
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more like shitcord
0 likes@@cfruge444 he felt like he did good on acting
1 like@@twist58 six colorless ponies
0 likesQ pretty much moved on from pestering Captain Picard to pestering six colorful ponies!
4 likesQ if he did whatever the hell he felt like.
3 likesAnd then in season 9, Celestia and Luna turned somepony to stone WITHOUT the need of the elements. So.... really they could´ve done that to Discord as well. But, of course, the episode WOULD be much shorter and less interesting XD
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They don't have power to turn Discord into stone without elements
4 likes@@charlesescano The mean 3 were turned to stone and never again to be released
0 likesback on the first episode of season 4, celestia and luna used the elements of harmony against discord to turn him to stone
0 likesNot really
18 likesCelestia and Luna only destroyed the Cupcake
Discord is the only one who turned them to stone
To be honest, if I could relate with any MLP reformed villain, Discord is my choice. He may have been bad in Season 2 and part of Season 3, but he is virtually like me. We both actually seem to be interested in a world built in our view and in pure instability. We also have attempted to gain trust with intention to abuse it (though Discord immediately stopped after realizing Fluttershy's disappointment with his actions, while I basically continued with my bad behavior even after I realized what I was doing; I promised I'd respect a guy I hated and my parents trusted me enough to continue to support me, then brutally tried to poke his eyes out later, continuing until my father scared me enough to stop). We also can easily get tricked (Tirek forced Discord to betray the ponies, and I have been tricked into becoming friends with people who would then abuse me with rudeness). I also once didn't like communicating with others and use questionable ways to ask for favors (like in A Matter of Principals, where Discord shows scary behavior to show how he feels, similar to how I once was being over punished by my parents and kept on having worse behavior afterwards to show that I wasn't feeling well from it). Most of all, we have done extreme or unacceptable things to get what we want (Discord pretended to be Grogar because he wanted to boost Twilight's confidence and support which lead to near destruction of Equestria, and also wanted to make Fluttershy the star of a special episode by unleashing a dangerous creature in Twilight's castle, while mine were more selfish, with me getting myself suspended because I wanted to transfer schools).
4 likesthat intro is AMAZING
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never gets old
0 likesMaybe this is why discord falls for fluttershy,she see's through his lies,and it makes him wonder about even friendship with a Pegasus mare,and we thought Apple jack was into honesty,it seems fluttershy has her beat as the element of honesty,maybe they should have switched elements,but then this would mean the ponies choose what element they bond with,and its not preordained on them.
2 likesI love Discord, it's my inspiration.
3 likesRarity's not only greedy,but a expert of kung fu.
1 likeOver mail delivery causing severe cramps,and bloating in dragons who knew,I guess giving him Pepto bismol wouldn't help spike even if I gave him full bottles of the stuff.
1 likeOnly today I found out that trixie was shown in part 1 after the opening if you look very closely.
1 likeI could see rainbow dash take spike up on his wanting to fly,and she dropping him,this thought would scare me also,considering how high pegasi can go up in the sky,he might be dragon pizza before twilight found him.
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Rainbow Factory
0 likesThe CMS : fight because they don’t care.
1 likeEveryone: the cms just summoned an
evil sorcery.
My cousins: the fuck I don’t care ,
Fight fight fight !!!!!!!!
This irony is kinda funny how much these ponies push friendship,and now they want their friendships to die,was Celestia aware of this among ponies,reminds of the Murray head Bangkok song about chess where he say thank god i'm only controlling the game,meaning he's manipulating folks,or in these episodes ponies.
1 likeShe's as greedy as spike gets when he wants stuff,too bad he's a dragon and rarity is a unicorn mare,or she and him wouldn't need stuff,just each other to keep each other happy,but even the best friendships need change,or they get dull.
1 likeDiscord is funny.
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:D
0 likesAll it takes is rebooting ponies memories.
1 like8:10 yup you can in season 4 primer
0 likesJohn delancie seemed to be having fun reprising his star character q,in pony form as discord,tells us how popular star trek was,wonder why they didn't put pony versions of the Borg in fim,which pony would be Picard,and which pony would be the borg queen,maybe chrysalis later,and would Jeri Ryan have gotten. a pony voice.
0 likes18:08 - Ninety percent of what ponies do in Equestria is outdoors, Rarity.
0 likes35:12 WTF? IS THAT THE DAUGHTER OF DISCORD AND FLUTTERSHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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@@strawberry_plush3139 screw screwball
0 likesyoure correct
0 likesScrewball was just a background character in the show put into the fan-fiction as discord and fluttershys daughter!
11 likesFluttershy's behavior gave me bad anxiety but I'm glad she's back to normal
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I love whenever she's mean it's awesome 😭
0 likesI love sweet Fluttershy.
0 likes@@alexthehomboi I didn't mean discord. Fluttershy so
0 likes@@m.e.s.d.l._2005 I love the good discord more than the evil discord. Because next time the ponies release him, they’re not gonna believe and trust discord after what he’s done
0 likes@@alexthehomboi İ like him evil,or good
1 likebad girl fluttershy
0 likes@@Randerson2409 let me be honest with you, i love the nice fluttershy but i hate the mean and evil fluttershy
0 likesI genuinely can't decide if I absolutely hate it or absolutely love it. It's kinda both, for me
8 likesHow about a game of Pin the Tail on the Pony?
1 likeCelestia - "What the?! (Looks at her missing tail) HOW THE FUCK DID YOU?!..."
Lucky they restored rainbow dash,I've been kicked by a horse,and it hurt,imagine a magic enhanced horse,it must feel even worse,especially. if the magic flowing through their bodies really kicks in the adrenal glands,look at what applejack does,and big Mac as well does,and this makes the ponies in mlp dangerous,whatever generation.
1 likeAfter this episode applejack has a big bruise on her muzzle,and rarity has a nasty grin, that makes spike's crush on rarity disappear as fast as it came.
0 likesThe next hasbro game,bowling for ponies.
1 likeI could see rainbow dash after she found out asking spike if he wanted a ride,and if I were spike I would decline rainbow's offer unless he wants to be a dragon pancake,since cloudsdale has to be over 10000 feet high in the sky,then twilight might beat up rainbow dash for hurting her adopted brother/friend,even if twilight was a small pony she was built sturdy so she could take a licking and keep on trotting.
0 likesHe's the pony version of q from star trek.
1 likeI imagine when mitch aka MA Larson has Andrea,and Ashleigh who voice 2 mares,Andrea,and Ashleigh have fun with their pony characters,like if we stand in front of mirror,and make funny faces at ourselves,unless the voice actors are meant to be serious,this also gives more of the crew of these shows a chance to expand the actors range,probably why Tara,and Tabitha get so many roles for their voices,and emotions,if I were this type of actor,I would need alot of medicine such as cough drops not to burn out my emotions,and voice,especially if your voice,and emotions get you work,and if you got stuff like laryngitis work offers might not come around as often, I imagine since Tara has a voice acting studio at her house in Los Angeles she probably gets to train alot of voice actors successfully,but I wouldn't say to Tara to get a great grade,I liked her as twilight sparkle in fim,she might feel I was buttering her up so she might give me a bad grade,which means she's a honest teacher,and that she's trying to create the best future voice actors for Hollywood not make celebrities,learned this when I was in high school,and had a cousin as substitute teacher in one of my classes,and I mostly got c's,instead of a's,but had less fun when I had to go to my cousin's house.
0 likes5:38 RIIIIIIIIGHT, Famous last words.
4 likes5:50 ROLL THE CREDITS
6:44 Another example of why we love Pinkie Pie
7:43 First reaction versus show finale. No, I'm not sorry.
8:40 DOVahKiiN, DOVahKiiN, NaaL OK ZIN LOS VahRiiN... As well as a lot of others main characters in video games.
8:59 Tridashie spoiled me, so... CHOCOLATE RAIN! ETERNAL CHAOS COMES WITH CHOCOLATE RAIN! CHOCOLATE RAIN! ETERNAL CHAOS COMES WITH CHOCOLATE RAIN!
11:06 Extremely dirty. Love it.
12:11 AAAAAAND Roll the credits. AGAIN.
12:17 Change her horn for a sword and Twilight for a knight and you'll get the Idea.
16:26 YUP, not creepy at all.
17:59 Great timing.
23:11 ROLL THE CREDITS, DAMMIT!
23:55 THEY GROW SO FAST
27:56 Hey, Applegeek, what's up?
30:03 That wouldn't be chaotic. And Discord is Embodiment of chaos.
31:40 The word you looking for is Trickster.
34:08 That was good.
39:44 "Yeah, why don't you suck my bottom, you dumb pussy? Swag."
39:59 Gotta love sassy AJ
43:14 *Insert your Fame and Misfortune joke here*
44:02 TASTE THE didn't I just did it on different Season Premiere?
44:35 And a bit of a homage to a classics. I mean, it's not like they had a ton of references throughout the show up to this point (and after)
Bronies listen up comment if you ABSOTOOTLY know who that was at 35:11 don't dissapoint me bronies 😏
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Skrewball ...I didn't think I could love this show any more but here we are
1 likeDefinitely Screwball.
2 likesScrewball of course
2 likesIn that scene the ponies should ask where she got the jewlery,and when she said got the jewels fromcelestia rarity says she knows a good lawyer to sue Celestia for being a con pony,and we find out twilight's mother velvet did it to get back at Celestia for taking her daughter,and this is why shining armor became a royal guard cause it was really a boot camp for bad ponies,and cadance seduced shining the first day.
0 likesNecklace Necklace Necklace Necklace And big crown thingy
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treasure gold
0 likesI would love see fluttershy try to hold rainbow dash down.
0 likesThis is why I wonder if we humans didn't create discord,and to mess with most of us he turned us into colorful ponies,and mlp is our earth in the future,since why do alot of pony cities have human names like Manhattan. aka manehattan,and why do ponies walk,and talk like us humans,and live in homes,and sleep on beds,discord's magic might be part radioactive,like after Godzilla went from a normal lizard to a 207-405 ft fire breathing dragon as shown in Japanese 1954 version of Godzilla,which out did Raymond burr's American version in 1955,and this came from the bomb Oppenheimer created in New Mexico in 1945.
0 likesI can see rarity smacking apple jack fot that.
1 likeI love how Andrea is having fun with herself as pinkie pie,and fluttershy Tara,and Tabitha were the only two not having fun like Ashleigh,and Andrea had voicing 2 mares in these episodes.
1 liketrick to win at keep away slug one of them and say you won't stop beating until you get your stuff back
0 likes16:20 - To be fair, that wasn't really a lie. She technically wasn't talking to a pony.
0 likesAhh discord....
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shitcord
0 likesIf this guy doesnt browse /mlp/ now I'd be surprised
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EEYUP
0 likes18:56 TOM!
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eureka
1 likeGather we don't mess with ponies of mlp when they get colorless,and cranky,or they start having fits,and we think the yaks are bad later. on,they never met colorless cranky ponies of mlp before.
1 like20:35 - Is it really cheating? Or is it epic foreshadowing?
0 likesThe lord of chaos or the master of disharmony
0 likesI love the intro
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my little pony my little pony
0 likesYou know your sick when you start throwing up mail,I wouldn't want to spike at this point,I guess if we were derpy aka muffins she would probably. get a month off.
0 likesBe careful twilight spike throw up more than mail on you.
0 likesI feel mars candies should of asked hasbro for the ponies to sell skittles,imagine what both Mars candies,and hasbro would get out of the mlp ponies saying taste the rainbow especially for all the mlp generations it might a gold mine,since some of the mlp ponies cutie marks aka butt flank tatoos are candies such as bon bon's aka sweetie drops,and peppermint candies,and cotton candy so the mlp ponies would become even more famous,since everyplace i've been sells skittles as stores,or movie theaters,so Hasbro,and Mars candies could make boat loads of reverse cash,since I just saw a mustard flavored skittles to honor mustard day,not a flavor I would want,except probably on a bun , hot dog with ketchup,relish,suarerkraut,and maybe cheese.
0 likes35:10 screwball
0 likes37:21 Why does it seem like you're not wearing pants?
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ponies dont even wear pants
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discord art sculpture
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0 likesI wouldn't. want these 6 mares at my house in their bad mood,I might get kicked by applejack,and when applejack kicks she kicks for real.
0 likeswe know ponies grunt,but if I hear them growl I'm backing away,even extremely cute colorful friendly ponies in mlp,there twilight sounds like Winona,and if a little cartoon horse sounds like that,something's definitely not right with them.
0 likesdont actually do that
0 likesThis is what destroys generation 4 mlp.
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Then don't watch it.
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