Just think, several of your subscribers are literally dead.

I have this problem myself currently, because I made one specific video about a controversial subject, got a bunch of subscribers and now they don’t watch my content because they expect a video like that again. Wish we could remove subs😒 Great video btw👍🏻

I like to imagine yes man's voice when I read this comment.

Judging how I have had my youtube channel for 8 years now at least one person that subbed to me is dead

@Stick AKA Matthew Statistical certainty isn't a theory

@Stick AKA Matthew Statistical certainty isn't a theory

@Fuck The Police oh. In my head it was YouTubers not subscribers. Lol

@KudosK i think he meant the people who subscribed are dead

You can easily find them. If a check marked channel commented on a popular or trending video.<br>If it has less than ~500k subscribers, then that channel is dead if the recent uploads are in the 5 digits or low 6 digits.

You can easily find them. If a check marked channel commented on a popular or trending video.
If it has less than ~500k subscribers, then that channel is dead if the recent uploads are in the 5 digits or low 6 digits.

Just think, there’s a good chance  that you are subscribed to dead YouTubers

A lot of the accounts that made old classic YouTube videos are probably dead too. Most of them completely disappeared without a trace

Sadly, one of them is. Overdosed on the discord a while back and haven’t seen him since

Actually, they have a point, if not a morbid one

Actually, they have a point, if not a morbid one

I mean. I could die in a car accident literally the next day and my account would probably stay up for quite some time if not for years, so...

@Babylon Lion Is it a coincidence that Kitty0706 is also dead?

@Lord Genesect and the original owners forgot the password to those accounts and can't sign in to them

@Lord Genesect that sounds like some tron shit

@Lord Genesect that sounds like some tron shit

but the subscribr count would have gone down if they died

but the subscribr count would have gone down if they died

John Jon Jhon Johnathan Johnston Johnstar IV

Gilbertify Your Yes Man profile pic makes this all the more humorous

thats alotta dead people pilled on pewds

thats alotta dead people pilled on pewds

Well, in 100 years, ALL current subscribers and YouTube accounts will be dead. Wonder what YouTube would look like then, if the site still exists.

Gilbertify
"Just think, Courier Six, some of your securitrons, are literally dead."
Sorry, I had too

Hacking COULD be an option, Ethan Clews. However, it may take brute force.

Gilbertify I have one subscriber, and I'm friends irl with them lol

I have a 2014 computer, so it's shit compared to what you have.

iMac G4 TV 2.0 I already ha e to deal with this.

iMac G4 TV 2.0 I already ha e to deal with this.

So he should just bruteforce and unsubscribe, as that's the only option at this point. It may not be ethical, but with this many empty subscribers, this may be the only option. I don't have to deal with this, as I'm a small channel. But I'll have to deal with it as I grow larger.

DiamondTurtle if that's what you want I must follow your command

Yes- Man get out of here sellout government official!

Yes- Man get out of here sellout government official!

DiamondTurtle I'm obligated to agree with you no matter what you say

Logan Not the one from Marvel Logan Paul?

Logan Not the one from Marvel Logan Paul?

if you couldn't understand what he meant due to the meme corruption, he's saying that atleast one of emplemon's subs has actually passed away and will never be able to unsub due to being actually fucking dead.

DiamondTurtle I looked to see if you had 10 subs

DiamondTurtle I looked to see if you had 10 subs

Andreas Navarro Nes About 10 Probably for me.

Andreas Navarro Nes About 10 Probably for me.

Kai Barber Wow, that's some thesis, man! Respect +

Kai Barber Wow, that's some thesis, man! Respect +

if this channel is still up in 100 years this will be a graveyard from the past

Paul Nah, you're clearly lying, we all know it's Raul.

Paul Nah, you're clearly lying, we all know it's Raul.

Gilbertify<br>you profile picture is perfect Yes Man is my favorite fallout nv character

Gilbertify
you profile picture is perfect Yes Man is my favorite fallout nv character

Gilbertify how I'm not even a subscriber lol

Gilbertify how I'm not even a subscriber lol

wow i thought i was the only one that thought that.

wow i thought i was the only one that thought that.

Or most of them are old accounts , and their user wanted a fresh start.

Gilbertify you know what's funny  we predicted that he would get those subscribers back

Gilbertify sorry i mean a vid lasting  150 years, then someone would have died according to his views<br>... lol

Gilbertify sorry i mean a vid lasting  150 years, then someone would have died according to his views
... lol

Gilbertify if he made a 22.7 hour livestream/vid someone would have died in he video

I'M LITERALLY DEAD (TEARING SMILEY EMOJI x 10)

I'M LITERALLY DEAD (TEARING SMILEY EMOJI x 10)

They got hit by his new Lamborghini, <b>KNOWLEDGE</b>

They got hit by his new Lamborghini, *KNOWLEDGE*

@Waffen-SS Soldier<br>Yup, but I originally got it from Fallout: New Vegas.

@Waffen-SS Soldier
Yup, but I originally got it from Fallout: New Vegas.

Gilbertify Is that computer from mass defect video by Kitty0706?

'The dead subscribers theory'

They're dead

'The dead subscribers theory'

They're dead

@Lord Genesect<br>In that sense too, yes.

Actually, you may have a point, assuming most of the empty subs are from abandoned or inactive accounts that won't unsubscribe because they are just programs with no user


to be honest, i enjoy these documentary type videos more than youtube poop, but i like the elements of YTP in some sections

@Nondescript the features of content such as that are still aspects of the content, therefore my point still stands. I didnt insinuate that the information and the general structyre may not be enjoyable to you, but rather that his niche of how he produces content (the things he uses while getting across points in his videos, including the earr*pe) is not going to be for everyone.

@Liam Rucker Nah, that's the thing, I very much enjoy his content, and I actually enjoy a lot of YTP in general too, I'm just saying, it's hard when you're sitting there enjoying what he has to say, and the video he puts to it, then the 20x normal volume thing happens and blows out my eardrums. It's worth a chuckle if done sparingly but sometimes he does it too much in a video. I admit its the one YTP device that I've never been especially fond of, what can I say

@Nondescript emp never claimed to try to make content for everyones tastes ig 😞 but i get a giggle from it sometimes

I could do without the ear rape obsession, it makes these very difficult to watch at times

When EmpLemon uploads, it’s a happening.

As for subscriber totals: Those are a reflection of the number of people who found at least one of the channel’s videos compelling at some point.

It might be a decent indicator of the number of people you’ve made an impression on overtime but not necessarily in the current moment.

@Synthetic The Meme Man is that supposed to offend me nigga? i wouldn't have made it that if I didn't like it

@SuperBalboa Then why are you here? Just out of a place of bafflement more than anger. If you don't like it, watch something you do like.

we are his newer viewers who are unwilling to unsub cos we love every video he posts

@TheSP33DFREAK I loved the dale earnheart one pearsonally

@Christopher Althouse Check out his documentary on Stan Petrov (it's a never ever episode. It's great!) I've been a fan of emp for over 2 years and I'm so glad to see how much he's grown in such a small amount of time.

I've been thinking the same thing...it' s clear that EmpLemon has found a way to take what he used to love doing and find a new avenue for it...

I never even heard of him until just yesterday but I am a DEFINITE fan! I've been searching all over YouTube for content like this and honestly it is getting harder and harder to find. Even though I tend to lean towards the more informative content, my recommendation list keeps getting more and more bloated with normie crud...that said, every once in a while the algorithm throws something like this my way and I LOVE it when it does! ☺😁😍😂


I was eating donuts when you started talking about empty calories.

I feel attacked, you’ve earned a new subscriber.

Just remember to <b>UNSUBSCRIBE</b> if you stop liking his content!

Just remember to *UNSUBSCRIBE* if you stop liking his content!

Thanks. Emp's been on a roll with The Thing, Highest Jump, and The Villain Analysis.


I always thought Emp saying "unsubscribe" was just him being contrarion, but no- he was genuinely honest, the mad calamarad.


I just want to genuinely thank you for being such a great person and trying to clean this oversaturated mess of a site. Your documentary content as a whole gives a glimpse of a world of 'outsider' content and culture I never would have seen.<br>Started on your channel with the hbox video 😀

I just want to genuinely thank you for being such a great person and trying to clean this oversaturated mess of a site. Your documentary content as a whole gives a glimpse of a world of 'outsider' content and culture I never would have seen.
Started on your channel with the hbox video 😀


It's been almost 5 years since he transitioned from ytp to video essays. Wow


As of April 25, 2019
__________________
I calculated the average views on the 10 most recent videos on your channel.
I had an average of 539,900 views, and at the time you had 450,978 subscribers.
Using your formula, you have a -0.19% empty subscriber rate!
NEGATIVE. congratulations!

As of April 25, 2019
____________________
I calculated the average views on the 10 most recent videos on your channel.
I had an average of 539,900 views, and at the time you had 450,978 subscribers.
Using your formula, you have a -0.19% empty subscriber rate!
NEGATIVE. congratulations!

@*currently rebuilding* I wonder why YouTube doesn’t let you see dislikes.

Update: 24/07/21
10 most recent videos, as before
average of 866400 views
compared to 789000 subscribers
using the formula, it comes to -0.098%
if being closer to flat 0% is technically better, congrats! that's an extra tenth of a percent closer.

you cant use YOUR average views and HIS subscriber count to measure empty subscribers. They come from two different people, that doesn't work!

I have 24 subscribers and my most popular video has 2000 views dividing that is 83 POSITIVE which means

@Shane Grogan I have almost 800 subscriptions, so I watch what drops on my sub page because it's basically an improved algorithm.<br>And it's strange that I can remember most of my subscriptions...

@Shane Grogan I have almost 800 subscriptions, so I watch what drops on my sub page because it's basically an improved algorithm.
And it's strange that I can remember most of my subscriptions...

Many channels complain that the vast majority of their views come from people that aren't subscribed (you can see in the analytics), this is probably the cause.

@Shane Grogan watching content = more of that content being reccomended by a l g or i th m
subscribing = notified when vido
watch vido = step 1
it does something
ohuifdgyndbouionrt

If you didn’t say that last part you would have been fine, but fr wtf

(STUDENT)William Giles even then to have a 0% empty sub rate would mean that your channel would be pretty small and most likely only have subs in the single or double digits mainly consisting of people you have connections with outisde of youtube

That's because subscribing doesn't really do anything anymore. People watch the videos suggested to them by the algorithm, not the videos uploaded by the channels they're subscribed to.

This reveals an important variable he missed: non-sub views<br>but I think his point still stands

This reveals an important variable he missed: non-sub views
but I think his point still stands

@*currently rebuilding* hehe emp lemon has made this video exactly becuse of people like you


Recently discovered and subbed to your channel after watching your breakdown of why SpongeBob was a great show, and I've been binging your content ever since.  Your analysis of various issues and appreciation of meme culture keeps me coming back.  Keep up the great poop my man, I enjoy riding the downward spiral!


Seeing how much quality content Emp is making today it's safe to say he ascended


What do you think pineapple on Pizza is absolutely disgusting cuz if that's the case I feel the same way😎

Damb frank I literally just listened to some of your your awesome music then came here scrolled down to the comments and now I here wondering what im doing with my life commenting on a comment you made a year ago although I know your probably never going to see this and I'll just go back to thinking about death and if anything counts in the end, is anything real or is it just all illusions

Oh hey didn't see you walk in there. Gotta say your future bass tutorial was one of the first videos I watched of yours and hands down my favorite. Thank you.

OH shit I was actually looking for you and I thought "wait is this the kid who made the how to make trap tutorial?" "no he's not! fuck!"<br>Thanks for coming back

OH shit I was actually looking for you and I thought "wait is this the kid who made the how to make trap tutorial?" "no he's not! fuck!"
Thanks for coming back

I don't, mostly because my only two subscribers are a real friend and some guy I met online

About the pineapple?

Understandable, me too.

Hi there. I don't know you, but it seems like your mere presence outside your own media is seemingly noteworthy for being unexpected due to your popularity. Therefore, I apologise for you suffering such a problem.


Since i discovered this channel in 2015, funnily enough, with the uncredibles, i kept a close viewership on it, and i realized that it reflects a lot about my own experiences growing up
I'm quite sure i'm the same age as emp now, and seeing the new series in this channel, i think the evolution of this channel is incredible how a person can show growth and evolution using only his art, his craft
Emp, i really think you deserve more recognition for your craft, not only for your ytps


Wonder if Emp looks back at this video. It seems like a thoughtful video that gave that push to make more essay type videos. He has surpassed the empty subscriber issue so now his videos break his sub count or at least stays on par to the count.


Jokes on you, Lemon. I'm not subscribed yet i binge watch your videos. How do you like them apples

@N N R U good point, we can all see that you're actually subscribed to emplemon

@A Part-time Astronaut you kow what i mean

lars van zanten by that logic, there’s no point in anyone subbing at all

I think he likes that, as that means there is one less empty sub later down the line


Joke's on you, my iq is lower than my chromosome count, and I have a 170 iq

How the fuck did a crayfish get acces to youtube?

Hey, that's my IQ too...well sorta, for me there's a negative before 170 but still

Ultimate Powa true. And people actually have the nerves to say that we’re getting dumber

@Shagarakar <br>If he took an IQ test from the early 1900s he probably would

@Shagarakar
If he took an IQ test from the early 1900s he probably would

That doesn't work, just doesn't.  The closest thing to that is ionizing radiation and that still doesn't quite count and you would certainly be dead,  that is living in Chernobyl for a decade, times 5000

If count every single secuence of DNA from every living cell of your body that must be an absurd number of cromosomes. I'm not ashamed to say I'm dumber than that but perhaps Emp Lemon really is up there and I wouldn't even be surprised. To be fair you need a high IQ to handle this channel the way he does


You know, I never thought I’d see the day where a YouTuber would be encouraging people to unsubscribe instead of subscribe. It makes me wonder how many other YouTubers care about empty subscribers and how many simply prefer to see a large number by their subscriber count


How could anyone actually not enjoy these videos, in my eyes theres something for everyone in your content. Personally a fan of it all!


The “sticks out for diabetes” execution is still the funniest thing in my life so far


It's funny seeing Emplemon here getting all philosophical. Nothing wrong, I really think this is amazingly interesting!

Not sure if sarcastic or not, but I agree. I could watch him rant all day lol.


Recently have gotten into your videos, always loved YouTube poop since I was a kid and finding your channel and some of your vids again made me pretty damn happy in these times.

Thought I'd say this cause you said you read the comments, I usually watch YouTube on my xbox, which sucks cause the interface is even worse than a browser, you can't even comment on videos... And that's the tip of the iceberg.

I think these new mediums of viewing YouTube really have added to empty subs or a YouTube community that actually can't participate because of the medium of using this website...

But yeah, love your content


4 years later somewhat recently going through all your videos because I stopped watching after the YTPs lol I must say your channel is so much better than what it was 7 or whatever years ago and you make amazing documentary-style videos with absolutely incredible editing that make me laugh, I'm sure we all prefer more intelligent thought-provoking videos and now you are at over 700K subscribers with even more viewers watching your videos so congratulations :')


I'm shocked that you could make this in your spare time. It must have taken so much time in editing.  I am new to your channel and I love it.  This one made me laugh a lot. The long form analysis is awesome that probably came out of this one is what I am here for.  Good job.


Mad respect for you, EmpLemon, I watch every video you upload and love your style. I won't unsubscribe because I am genuinely entertained by everything you do. May the spiral be ever downward.


I love your commentary videos dude. I'm having a hard time getting used to the ear rape but I know YTP is where you started and ER is a big part of the style. Keep em coming and I'll look into some sound limiting software ✌🏽


It’s been a long time now, but its odd that when you made the decision to turn your channel in this new direction away from ytp, I went from a somewhat empty subscriber to watching your catalogue several times a week


This is THE shit! I have always kind of thought like this but it is nice hearing it from someone else! Really liked the No thing and like how you are 4x times larger now!


I feel kinda bad because at this point of Emp's career I was mostly an empty subscriber. Not really by choice though, YouTube just didn't recommend his channel to me at all, and occasionally I'd watch a YTP and think "Huh, whatever happened to that Emperor Lemon guy?" But for some reason I didn't go check until a couple years later.


I love how this is a cross between a YTP and an informative essay!

You could say this is the beginning of him delving into analysis of YouTube, as well as other topics later on.


These Emp videos are different in style over the years, but not in quality. Always top notch


Your chaotic editing is my jam and I love getting glimpses into your influences for style and interests. That “the downward spiral will return after these messages” feels so much like [adult swim] it’s lovely and new and also nostalgic??


you're my top 3 favorite youtubers out there, along with idubbbz and critikal. you come off as so genuine and relatable all the time, and your content is the perfect mix of information, comedy, and effort, i've never seen anything like it. i aspire to make good content like you man, hopefully i'm less of an empty subscriber now lol


Emp stop making such good vids, I can't watch anything else on this platform anymore

@ShowcaseKing the,sign is a. subtle joke(


Funny. Never liked YTP, but these new videos of yours I'm actually enjoying, the video-essay and storytime videos. I mean not a huge fan of the editing style, but only because I don't like YTP and earrape. But whatever, the rest of the content is good enough to look past the things I personally disagree with. Nice video!


That was a pretty interesting take. I really respect the immense skill with editing you seem to have <3


I subbed to Emp because I appreciate his content for kind of being the opposite of my mindset. While he is existential in some regards and treats life as realistic and relatively negative as I do, he also displays his mindset in an overall positive manner and doesn't take everything too seriously. I could learn a thing or two about positivism in the face of an evil world, and I could learn even more about not taking myself so seriously. I need to learn to not just laugh at the circumstances, but also at myself. Thanks for being a sort of foil to my mind, Emp, it really helps.


I find it fitting how Emp struggled with empty subscribers back then, when now, his channel is among the likes of Vsauce, with one of the lower percentages of empty subs.


Love the evolution of this channel, one of the best things about youtube is the freedom to change your content so much


Since this video, I think his content quality has improved. I can tell the enjoyment in making the videos has returned for him, which is better for the creator and the viewers.


Hey dude! I think you're great! I just subscribed and I think you're a smart, blessed guy. It's difficult to put into words what I want to say, (I'm a neanderthal), but you think. You see things in a different way that anybody else, and are a hard worker. You have a real job and do Youtube videos! (something I'd like to do when I move out!) You have good sense and taste but you don't conform to the masses. You put effort and care into your work. You inspire me and make me see things things in a whole new way! I wanna be like you, Emplemon! I do apologize for overreacting at your "Have Videos Games been on a Downward Spiral?" video. I need to better control myself. Oh, uh, and your YTPs are awesome! Good day to you and God bless!


Thanks for being an interesting, entertaining,outstanding memer dude. Love your content!


Ive been spending the past couple of days going through all of your videos like this one. Your content feels substantial. It’s like coming across a bottle of fresh water while lost at sea. There’s so many youtubers out there that pump out content that’s just them reacting to something that someone else made. You always put the time and effort to make something original and thought provoking. Thanks for always entertaining me and I hope you have a good day


God damn this channel has come a long way. Love the content old and current


I love how this video aged. Look how well commentary videos worked out for you. Well done :)


I appreciate your hard work, Emp. Keep it up.


I think it would be cool if subbing someone was a private act, and what's displayed is the amount of recurring viewers, whether subbed or not


Lemon, I understand how you may feel by the number of subs you have and all I wanna do is introduce my self. I'm a US Marine and I love your content, It twists everything around and makes it so funny to the point I'm not able to breathe. I love your style in rock music just like the opening was Super Tramp Take the long way home. I love and I can relate to most of the things you post. Keep doing what you do man, Love this channel and I always get excited when you post even a 1 second video. These subs will never understand your true power of the Lemon side because it's too sour to taste. Have a good Holliday comming up man, love ya.

Best audience.  Better than the ones that ask. Oh god

I really appreciate that, man. It's inspiring to know that I have such a diverse audience.


Good job emp lemon . I was never subscribed to you back during ur ytp era and only found you recently in ur “video commentary” vids and I have to say I really respect you for having some self worth and doing something new instead of what you felt u had to do for ur audience, even at the cost of some subscribers


the empty subscriber count can be calculated using the sub count, view count, and and ratio of viewers who are subscribed to those who are not (that youtube gives you) which can be useful if you have more views than subscribers.


It's truly sad when something that you love becomes just a sad and monotonous task


For what its worth man I've only been a sub since you've made this kind of content and thats what I'm here for. You can tell you put work in and do your research. Keep up the good work! Fuck those empty subs, there's plenty of us actives that are happy to see any time you upload!


Also, YouTube still counts subscribers who've deleted their accounts, so that might have something to do with it.

And some people get new phones and forget their old account's password. Or am I the only one?

@Jared Collins or rather people who purged their own accounts to make a new one. This is like my 3rd.

I recall Youtube insisting that they actually removed deleted channels from subscriber counts. Of course, there's still no actual proof of this. It's difficult to tell what's real and what isn't when everything is unseen.

And the fact that people come to see the video but are not subscribed. Like me

HoopAndDinoMan Oh, I guess that means half of my subscriber count is dead.

cαrαmєl me too, I remember that I've subbed Scishow but smh that channel was disappear on my Sub list, then I proceed to resub them again because they are the reason why I am smart now...

me too

accept that l made an account in 2017

YouTube recently unsubbed me from a few of my subscribed channels (Shane, wooshiewoo.. and a few more) so I resubscribed, but people who deleted their accounts, they don't really resub because well, their account isn't there. So I think deleted channels Don't really add to it? Because I think YouTube would unsub them eventually????? Idk I'm an idiot Don't think I'm smart oQo|||

Reversed E so what that terminated account name

I don't even remember subscribing to them.

I once had a channel in my subscriptions that had been terminated, that I couldn't unsub from because it didn't exist.<br>I recently did end up unsubing, but for the longest time, youtube didn't even give me the option.

I once had a channel in my subscriptions that had been terminated, that I couldn't unsub from because it didn't exist.
I recently did end up unsubing, but for the longest time, youtube didn't even give me the option.

Oh Wow YouTube usually does sweeps of inactive users that updates subscribers counts youtubers like pewdiepie loses about a million

HoopsAndDinoMan why'd youtube even bother to count an already dead channel?

Until 2015, I just used YouTube without an account.

Facebook likely does something similar. A facebook group with no admins usually becomes open for the fastest member to claim. But if the last admin of a group "deletes" their account or is banned then the group is essentially permanently unmoderated because there is still a shadow account in a moderator position, same with the friend list. Havn't used the platform in quite some time and thats something i only discovered while closing down my accounts

HoopsAndDinoMan True but I don't think deleted accounts will do much to a subscriber count


Emperor lemon is one of the greatest youtubers ever, he can make great ytps and his commentary is good


Because you dont get this often, i really enjoy your videos for real. i watch your videos on copyright, and now im learning about youtube without it seeming like some super professional educational bullshit (im starting a youtube channel as a quarantine project because i always wanted to it and now i can with all the free time). And it may have stopped me from recording an entire audiobook (fnaf book) and upload it. Thanks


EMP has the best video essays regarding this platform.

I've never seem someone make YouTube itself so interesting.

EMP has the best video essays regarding this platform.

I've never seem someone make YouTube _itself_ so interesting.


I recently tuned into this channel, and honestly I will make sure to listen and understand the views conveyed by these videos. I will try to make good comments, know when to unsubscribe from a youtuber I don't care about anymore, and look for some good videos once I'm bored to shit. Thanks EmpLemon, you did a good!


Everything you said about dead subscribers is true. popular youtubers aren't as popular as they think. if anything everybody is on a downward spiral.

We all on a downward spiral, chickie baby. We all going mad

Maybe that's what the YouTube purge was doing removing all the fat.

p.s. great channel and Survivor Series sucked WWE is on a downward spiral


Honestly when i was out of the loop on your transit from ytps to the more lottery style videos where any topic is game for the "cutting board" it was confusing until i caught up. Now I'm glad i did, kinda rough to have learned the trek you made but I'm glad to see you're here but have changed in some light you personally may view as positive, or at least on the road to such


I just wanna point out that a good chunk of non-content-creators, like myself, are what I call "nomadic viewers" in that they never settle down in one place.
Yes, viewers will always stick to their niches with some staying in their corner more than others, but a lot of people simply ride the waves of the algorithm and search results to find whatever suits them at the time.
One week you could be binge watching clips of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, the next you could be having Vsauce give you the big brain with a capital 🅱.

To a nomad, the subscribe button isn't a "I wanna watch most of your content" button, it's a "I respect your talent and wish to have some way to remember you for the future" button.

I rarely watch your vids, Emp, but I have a massive respect for you and wish to see your channel grow. So even if my subscription is meaningless to you, to me it's my thumbs up to your whole channel.


I love the idea of subscriber purgatory, your channel is brilliant man, keep up the good content. I intend to watch and actually digest 100% of the things you upload in the future. Unless I die, then I won’t do that.


"See me, what I am, what I was, what I'll be,

Hear me, understand that I'm not what you see

Take this, take the man, middle term, common me

Don't you see that I'm just doing what I want to do

Nothing more and nothing less than you" - Free Hand by Gentle Giant, the song used at the end of the video, thank you for continuing to make high-quality uploads.


Your an amazing person and content creator. Stay determined! You're absolutely hilarious and I love everything you've done so far! You really know what you're doing when it comes to your channel and your memes, and speaking of memes YOU ARE THE PUREST SOURCE OF MEME I HAVE EVER FOUND! I've never been addicted but now I'm starting to understand my friend eddie who literally snorts this stuff. ANYMAHWAZZLE I love what you're doing, keep it up! Keep being you, you're amazing!<br>Also please let me know if you read this I would love to know if I helped in any way

Your an amazing person and content creator. Stay determined! You're absolutely hilarious and I love everything you've done so far! You really know what you're doing when it comes to your channel and your memes, and speaking of memes YOU ARE THE PUREST SOURCE OF MEME I HAVE EVER FOUND! I've never been addicted but now I'm starting to understand my friend eddie who literally snorts this stuff. ANYMAHWAZZLE I love what you're doing, keep it up! Keep being you, you're amazing!
Also please let me know if you read this I would love to know if I helped in any way


I LOVE your editing style of mixing commentary with YouTube poop. Pretty good video.


I think this video deserves more than 500k views... very insightful to the nature of the typical YouTube scene, even four years later. Not much has changed on the behalf of the viewers, but I feel many of the actual, genuine content creators (not KINDER EGG UNBOXING #4992 - HOLY SHIT BATMAN (SCARY)) have sort of adapted to these changes and begun making content they actually enjoy and believe in. Two different types of success: Getting views for selling your soul to the toy gods, or being genuinely happy and having a fanbase that has legitimate respect and appreciation (not to mention maturity).

TL;DR: YouTube sucks and everyone knows that.

Great job again!


I had a channel with 14k subs and a video with 3 million views. Unfortunately the video that got popular was made terribly and only got popular cause it was somewhat popular with a bunch of little kids. I tried making other content but the only way I was gonna get success on that channel was to make the same type of video, I wouldn't be able to get popular with anything else, so I quit that channel and made the one that I am commenting right now. I have a weekly upload schedule and feel happier knowing the people who are watching are not just a bunch of kids who only subscribed for the one video. Just for anyone thinking about making some dumb video that kids have enjoyed a lot in the past few months, don't do it. You will get empty subscribers, make your own damn content and just click bait it, even though you may be dis genuine with what you actually are it's better for your channel than getting empty subs.


I have so much respect for you and your content is so insight that I’m going to overlook and sit through your annoying editing style rolling my eyes. I’m not sure if this is a compliment or not. Love your channel. Let me know if you read my comment.


All jokes aside, this was a really nice video. It was very insightful and informative while still staying humorous! Nice job, Emp!


I subscribed today after binging YouTube Geographic and your similar content. I tried to watch the YouTube poop, got a couple chuckles, but it's not for me. I personally like the direction your channel is going, I know that's subjective but again, that's me personally. I usually don't comment on videos I watch because I usually subscribe to stuff that is interesting to me, and that I feel has re-watchability. I also like sharing with my circle that had similar interests as myself. <br>All in all, I just wanted to state that, while you have empty subscribers sure, you also have subscribers that just enjoy your content and will rewatch in later months or even years. Even if it's just me, which I doubt, just thought that you would like to know (if you didn't already) that you've got silent people who love your content.

I subscribed today after binging YouTube Geographic and your similar content. I tried to watch the YouTube poop, got a couple chuckles, but it's not for me. I personally like the direction your channel is going, I know that's subjective but again, that's me personally. I usually don't comment on videos I watch because I usually subscribe to stuff that is interesting to me, and that I feel has re-watchability. I also like sharing with my circle that had similar interests as myself.
All in all, I just wanted to state that, while you have empty subscribers sure, you also have subscribers that just enjoy your content and will rewatch in later months or even years. Even if it's just me, which I doubt, just thought that you would like to know (if you didn't already) that you've got silent people who love your content.


honestly fucking loving these vid rants. They're what brought me to your channel and I love the youtube poop atmosphere that they've got. Real fast paced shitposts, etc. Lovely shit


this actually opened my eyes on how subs =/= good channel. but it also makes me think about channels with low subscriber counts but high views on their videos for either controversial content or good content that no one really appreciates.


saying: "This is shit" to a youtube poop is kinda ironic


The downward spiral has gone down far enough to be an upwards spiral

Tom Persons WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?

Leumaleeh  Upwards in an upside down twist to a hell of a paradise

Or maybe Emp is just <b>DEDEDEAD</b> inside. I am sorry.

Or maybe Emp is just *DEDEDEAD* inside. I am sorry.

Nah, The Spiral is now going in every direction possible


Thanks for the content. I may be a more irritating subscriber for many channels, because I have this habit of not watching many recent uploads until I'm sufficiently caught up on watching older content. I doubt those views on old vids amount to much of anything for the creator, but I also don't think I can adequately appreciate more recent videos unless I understand the direction/progression of a channel. In a sense, I'm seasoning myself as a viewer. Anyway, that's my perspective.

As for dead subscribers, don't these eventually get culled if they haven't viewed a channel for a time? I've heard of channels mysteriously losing subs all at once, and I have to wonder if they're just some of the long-dead subs getting sloughed off by some internal mechanism of the site. No idea how long that would take, if it's even the case, or if there's certain types of behaviors an account could exhibit to be more likely for this to happen with (such as simply not logging in to the account at all for whatever reason).


You know, rewatching this video.. Thank you Emp. After this video I realised i was subscribed to over 200 channels, most of which I watched like 1-2 videos and unsubscribed. Now i cut it down to just about 20 channels. I am no longer an empty subscriber. Thank you, and I will not unsubscribe.


"My iq is lower than my chromosome count"<br>Yes that is correct and I have an iq in the triple digits

"My iq is lower than my chromosome count"
Yes that is correct and I have an iq in the triple digits

i have a negative iq composed from tetrodotoxin


EmpLemon: The man, the legend, the memelord! He's got the intelligence equal to the entirety of the Illuminati, but he uses his brain power for Youtube and memes! Fascinating....


Art is art. Do what fills the void in your heart, no matter how you please yourself (unless it's rape or murder). Just keep making videos, they're great


It's not any different than Instagram. I have empty followers all the time who who follow to entice you to follow them back and like their photos, then they unfollow you later. But I installed an app to help me keep track of that, and I only follow people whose content I actually like anyways.

As for your videos, I've been watching lately (passively listening at work as I'm typing away at my desk), and I have an appreciation for videos with decent insight into explaining topics that they cover that interest me.


Your account image perfectly portrays that.


Keep it up don't let the viewers determine your style just do what you want that's what people watch YouTube channels for the personality rather than the video itself


There is the posibility that you already know this by now, because im watching the video 5 years after it was uploaded,

but i want to say this anyways out of "i've never heard anyone talk about this issue".

i belive the reason people don't unsubscribe from channels, is not because they do nothing, but because subscriptions have become so irrelevant, to the point that the website relies fully on the algoritm to deliver videos to people, and people are way too busy watching those videos, insted of looking at the channels they subscribed to, and they dont even get notifications on these channels so they forget.

in my case, i've subscribed to a lot of channels, is just super easy to do, and channels swear that helps their channel grow so, if you enjoied the content, there is no reason to refuse, and unsubscribing will mean that people will have to go trought all those channels and willingly unsibscribe from them, and this only if they get reminded to do so, and is only a small chance that even if that was the case, no one will choose to lose time on that useless labor, when they have so much videos to watch.

basically, unless youtube implements a desition like the ring bell icon, but most drastic and implement an unsubscribe people from channels they dont watch feature, you ain't losing that fat anytime soon...


You've certainly ascended, and I'm better off for it. I found your hungrybox video a while ago, and went from there (10/10, have watched again). I've managed to learn (or you've taught) about a youtube subculture (ytp) without me ever needing to touch it. Plus my meme history knowledge is hitting all new highs of depravity. So... ya got that going for ya.


This video will truly never not be relevant. It's stood up to the test of time so far. And it seems it will continue to do so from what i can tell.

Also from what i can tell, It seems you became more successful in the end after the switch. Though it seems the views you get on videos can heavily change even still. But hey. It's something ain't it?


Watching your videos in reverse chronological order is the true downard spiral. Godspeed.


I just applied your empty subscriber equation to some other large, famous accounts I know of, EmpLemon.
Here's the data, but beware, these are rough estimates (prepare to be triggered).

Pewdiepie: (49,341,905 sub) 92% Empty Sub Count based on an average 4,000,000 views per video.

Jacksepticeye: (13,271,978 subs) 92% Empty Sub Count based on an average 1,000,000 views per video.

Markiplier: (15,409,204 subs) 88% Empty Sub Count based on an average of 1,800,000 views per video.

CinnamonToastKen: (2,734,393 subs) 98% Empty Sub Count based on an average of 60,000 views per video.

Vsauce: (11,187,462 subs) 64% Empty Sub Count based on an average of 4,000,000 views per video (Emp did this one).

Game Theory: (7,267,212 subs) 31% Empty Sub Count based on an average of 5,000,000 views per video.

Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell: (3,248,027 subs) -2% Empty Sub Count based on an average of 4,000,000 views per video
(this particular count is due to a small quantity of outliers with total views of 6,000,000 to 10,000,000+ views in specific videos as a result of the viral video phenomenon).

Gotta love statistics!
Notice how the large, "popular" gaming channels such as Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, Markiplier and Cinnamontoastken have extremely high empty subscriber percentages, as opposed to the science/fact-based videos like Vsauce, Game Theory and Kurzgesagt (which in my knowledge breaks the record for lowest empty sub count)? This is due to something called information cascade, and it is why viral videos exist. If lots of people watch a video, then more people should be watching it, in the same way, if a lot of people are subscribed to a single channel, YouTube will encourage the average user to subscribe to that channel.

You make a good argument, Emp. Many YouTubers do compare their ego levels using the amount of subscribers they have. That's all good, but what they SHOULD be comparing their egos to is how low their Empty Sub Count is.

I just applied your empty subscriber equation to some other large, famous accounts I know of, EmpLemon.
Here's the data, but beware, these are *rough estimates* (prepare to be triggered).

Pewdiepie: (49,341,905 sub) *92% Empty Sub Count* based on an average 4,000,000 views per video.

Jacksepticeye: (13,271,978 subs) *92% Empty Sub Count* based on an average 1,000,000 views per video.

Markiplier: (15,409,204 subs) *88% Empty Sub Count* based on an average of 1,800,000 views per video.

CinnamonToastKen: (2,734,393 subs) *98% Empty Sub Count* based on an average of 60,000 views per video.

Vsauce: (11,187,462 subs) *64% Empty Sub Count* based on an average of 4,000,000 views per video (Emp did this one).

Game Theory: (7,267,212 subs) *31% Empty Sub Count* based on an average of 5,000,000 views per video.

Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell: (3,248,027 subs) *-2% Empty Sub Count* based on an average of 4,000,000 views per video
(this particular count is due to a small quantity of outliers with total views of 6,000,000 to 10,000,000+ views in specific videos as a result of the viral video phenomenon).

Gotta love statistics!
Notice how the large, "popular" gaming channels such as Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, Markiplier and Cinnamontoastken have extremely high empty subscriber percentages, as opposed to the science/fact-based videos like Vsauce, Game Theory and Kurzgesagt (which in my knowledge breaks the record for lowest empty sub count)? This is due to something called information cascade, and it is why viral videos exist. If lots of people watch a video, then more people should be watching it, in the same way, if a lot of people are subscribed to a single channel, YouTube will encourage the average user to subscribe to that channel.

You make a good argument, Emp. Many YouTubers do compare their ego levels using the amount of subscribers they have. That's all good, but what they SHOULD be comparing their egos to is how low their Empty Sub Count is.

Penguinz0 has one of the best ratios for this. His like to dislike is better than most channels. I suppose it’s possible but don’t forget YouTube is infamous for not having videos show up in sub feeds. Although that hasn’t happened to me.

Kurzgesagt,  Game Theory , Vsauce

somthin's off here i just don't know what

Kurzgesagt,  *Game Theory* , Vsauce

somthin's off here i just don't know what

+HolyShitBabyJesusIsOnFire

No, she and James do not have 0%. They're in the negatives.

Grade A under A pre-drama had a pretty good percentage.

Jaiden Animations has a 0% empty subscriber count, which I think is SUPER impressive.

Nice, I gotta check out that 2% channel lol

Those statistics are quite surprisingly good for Game Theory

I think this has multiple variables and you can't actually know how many spam/dead accounts follow a channel only from subscriber-views analitics.

For example Kurgezast also has dead accounts following the channel or accounts that don't watch their videos anymore because they take too much time to make time to post new ones and they just forget they subscribed (and they don't have the notifications bell on).

Also, something that affects views on videos is when a YouTuber does several kinds of  videos on their accounts and  sometimes their audiences are segmented. For example on a Let's Play channel a person may only have  subscribed for a certain gameplay and ignores the rest.

Some examples:

A lot of CinnamonToastKen's subscribers ignore his vlogs about his life (wife, daughter, painted his hair, removed a toenail 😕).

Game Theory also hosts Gaijin Goomba and half of the audience actually hates him. They also ignore videos about story of gaming, but they don't hate the hosts.

VintageColaPC1 What if a channel has 0 subscribers but 1 view on all 1 of it's videos? Get memed, good sir.

Well, he's not wrong... But he isn't right either.

MatPat likes to use math in some of his theories, so maybe that's where that came from. Otherwise, you have a conspiracy channel that make leaps of logic that kinda do make sense at times, but unless proven right, are entirely ridiculous.

Calculate how many empty subs I have (being a very, very small channel).

good job, have this comment medal as a token of our appreciation.

Oh and also Filthy Frank has the lowest rate of Empty Sub. He has like 4 million subs while his videos have from 4 to 11 million views.

umm what about erb they get like 40 mil average

it is
there is more probability of being watched for more people if you do less uploads (take gaming channels as an example)
anyways gaming channel are changing their subs evey day because they have no content really

Mister 4 Eyes that's incredible because the channels keeps that average percentage since it was created

VintageColaPC1 erb
 subscribers 14m
 average views 25m

VintageColaPC1 LeafyisHere:
4,382,000 subs
Average of about 400k views
91%

>fact-based
>Game Theory
hahahhaahhahahaha. no.

what about rewatchs? those count as an extra view or more...

I think supermariologan is 1% because he gets 2 million views each video

VintageColaPC1 my youtube channel 110% dead

VintageColaPC1 I know all of these channels

VintageColaPC1 You make some very good points.  I think that also the size of the channel is a factor.  After all, it isn't very easy to please everyone who subscribes to you, especially if you have 50 MILLION LIKE PEWDIEPIE or close to 20 mil for some of those other channels you mentioned.  Not everyone is going to like every video you put out, and if they just liked one or two of some videos that you put out that aren't like the rest of your videos, well then they will never watch your videos again.

You know what groups has the most empty subscribers tho? Beaty gurus and make up people. Because fashion and make up works with trends that change rapidly a lot of those people will be able to capitalize on a trend that aligns with what they do best and gain a bunch of views and subscribers super fast, but as soon as the next trend is becoming popular their subs become as empty as a potato chips bag. It's super weird seeing this girls with subscriber counts over the millions and like 20k views per video.

This comment is from before Poods had 5Mil...

I have 8 subscribers and a video with over 2000 views and the rest have about 20

That's about -23%
Holy shit.
We found it!

That's about -23%
Holy shit.
We found it!

I just did a quick check on the channel "Theodd1sout" (who I am subscribed to due to enjoying his content) and he has 3,139,776 subs and averaging out his most 4 recent videos I got this amount of views: 3,862,176 (please calculate the percentage because I suck with percentages)

Its probably because many people think "Oh its pewdiepie or oh its markiplier I gotta sub", watch a few videos and never watch their videos.

GameKirby64 - (8 subs) <b>100% empty subscribers</b> based on an average 30 views per video

GameKirby64 - (8 subs) *100% empty subscribers* based on an average 30 views per video

Now we should see how many empty subs  those cringe worthy toy channels have


I like your channel Emp w
I like the long rants (30 minutes ->hours) that I can sit down and watch while drawing or doing some chores.
And get a chuckle between the mundane shit of my life when your tangents hit that sweet spot of cynical criticism and humor.
When I do sit down to watch them, I like catching all the small edits that go into a video. Often pausing and rewinding to catch shit that went on the screen too fast and getting a fuller sense of a joke that was just briefly in my peripheral before.
I thought ytpoops were immature when they started coming around and my friends would spread them, but I've actually gone back and appreciated the craft of them and the techniques that go - and still go into styles of videos.
Fuck, I watched an hourlong nascar upload of yours for some reason, despite having 0 interest for nascar. Am i just a mindless idiot that will sit down and drool at my desk? yes. But Im an idiot with standards.
Keep doing you Emp. Your videos are a joy to watch, listen, and share.

I like your channel Emp -w-
I like the long rants (30 minutes ->hours) that I can sit down and watch while drawing or doing some chores.
And get a chuckle between the mundane shit of my life when your tangents hit that sweet spot of cynical criticism and humor.
When I do sit down to watch them, I like catching all the small edits that go into a video. Often pausing and rewinding to catch shit that went on the screen too fast and getting a fuller sense of a joke that was just briefly in my peripheral before.
I thought ytpoops were immature when they started coming around and my friends would spread them, but I've actually gone back and appreciated the craft of them and the techniques that go - and still go into styles of videos.
Fuck, I watched an hourlong nascar upload of yours for some reason, despite having 0 interest for nascar. Am i just a mindless idiot that will sit down and drool at my desk? yes. But Im an idiot with standards.
Keep doing you Emp. Your videos are a joy to watch, listen, and share.

my face got melted .... thanks youtube.  (-w- ;)   (uwu;;  )


Choosing your audience by creating the content you wanted was a wise decision in hindsight. Your latest content is highly informative, well researched, very interesting and entertaining, i hope you will continue!<br>Ps: although you decided to drop ytp, i actually came to know about this art form and to respect it through your latest works, which is kind of ironic and fitting at the same time.

Choosing your audience by creating the content you wanted was a wise decision in hindsight. Your latest content is highly informative, well researched, very interesting and entertaining, i hope you will continue!
Ps: although you decided to drop ytp, i actually came to know about this art form and to respect it through your latest works, which is kind of ironic and fitting at the same time.


I think part of what causes so many channels to have empty subscribers is that youtube seems to encourage it. They apparently 'don't want to spam' subscribers by sending every single video a creator makes to those subscribers. Personally, I absolutely want to be spammed. It'll tell me that I'm still subscribed to a channel that I haven't watched in months and that I'm no longer interested in continuing to watch. It's entirely possible that some of your empty subscribers aren't aware they're still subscribed because your videos aren't coming up on their home page.

The other point I want to make is that the empty subscriber count might not necessarily be what you think. You assume that every single person that watched one video watched the rest, when it's entirely possible that some of them watched one but not the other. Personally, I don't watch your ytp's because they just aren't my style of humour but I do watch your commentaries because I think your position is often well-thought out and interesting (particularly your video on Donald Trump becoming president through memes). The same is true of a decent number of channels I'm subscribed to that produce more than one kind of content. No doubt you have subscribers that are the reverse of me and only watch your ytp's. It's still certainly true that you have empty subscribers, but that number might not be as clear cut and exact as you think.

To use the example of watchmojo and vsauce, vsauce produces pretty much the same sort of thing every time: Michael talks about something interesting for 10-20 minutes. The sort of person that likes one will likely like others, and while there may be some that are more interested in certain topics than others (and thus more likely to watch a video on that topic) I think in general if you like one vsauce video you'll like them all. Watchmojo, on the other hand, uses a scattergun approach on purpose so that they can try to appeal to different demographics, much like buzzfeed does. It's entirely possible that they have a similar amount of empty subscribers as vsauce, but that those subscribers views are split up among the videos that actually interest them. I don't really have any way of confirming any of this, however. Just food for thought.


I think this style of video is AMAZING! A perfect balance of serious commentary, and YTP. Keep up the good work!


Great video as per usual but a warning before some of those volume spikes would've been fantastic.


And just over 3 years later, he now has an almost a perfect channel health. Good job


I subbed after you started making content like this. And I prefer this stuff.<br>Also helps that I like your edits and hilarious things going on in the videos.

I subbed after you started making content like this. And I prefer this stuff.
Also helps that I like your edits and hilarious things going on in the videos.


I appreciate the content you put out. I can tell in your newer videos there is alot of time and effort put into them. I've probably watched your video on dale erndhart atleast 10 times


Hey Emplemon, I used to be an empty subscriber, I saw your behind the meme video and didn't watch much else, but I decided to watch more of your videos because I felt bad for being subbed and not doing anything about and low and behold I find this video, and I just wanted to appologize say that you are unappreciated for the content that I've seen, your ideas of the ins and outs of youtube and the general quality you seem to put into your videos despite the fact that it's not your full time job. rambling now but I just wanted to say thank you for making good content, being a real person (not one who just wants a bigger sub count for the sake of it) and I hope you continue making more thoughtful and insightful videos like these, cheers


Love you channel man. Keep doing what you’re doing


First time watching one of your videos, and it was quite good - very interesting. I usually don't care enough about the internet to give these things a second thought. I'm subscribed to a bunch of shit channels that I never even watch just because I saw one decent video there before, but since then it's all crap. I really need to get into my garden and do some weeding. I've done it before, but it's about time to do it again. As for your channel, I think it probably appeals to a younger crowd, but maybe it's just me. I won't become an empty subscriber. Thanks, you've done me, and yourself a great service. I must say your integrity is something of a refreshment on the Web - a tangled Web full of vicious spiders.


I'm a new subscriber and I haven't watched the old videos yet. That probably contributes to the empty sub count on the older videos if you think about it...<br>I personally don't like the loud sound effects, they hurt my ears, but you have a great insight on many topics so I'm looking forward for new videos

I'm a new subscriber and I haven't watched the old videos yet. That probably contributes to the empty sub count on the older videos if you think about it...
I personally don't like the loud sound effects, they hurt my ears, but you have a great insight on many topics so I'm looking forward for new videos


used to be an empty subscriber but you make quality content and got me watching your vids


I unsubscribed years ago because your videos began resembling the loud, obnoxious “dank meme” style that was so ubiquitous across social media at the time. I didn’t know you sincerely enjoyed making these videos, I perceived them as your betrayal of all the inside jokes and humor in pre-2016 YTPs I had come to enjoy. I’m happy you’re making the content you want, not content you feel obligated to create.<br>Take care, Aaron.

I unsubscribed years ago because your videos began resembling the loud, obnoxious “dank meme” style that was so ubiquitous across social media at the time. I didn’t know you sincerely enjoyed making these videos, I perceived them as your betrayal of all the inside jokes and humor in pre-2016 YTPs I had come to enjoy. I’m happy you’re making the content you want, not content you feel obligated to create.
Take care, Aaron.


Well, you're at 381k on 10/25/2018 and the video got 360k views, so pretty damn close to the mark. Granted the video's been up for two years, I just recently found you through a new channel, and I enjoy your rants. I'm iffy on YTP, but I'd probably watch it just to support you. So keep making videos you enjoy making, and I'll stick around for a while. Been binge watching your videos past like 24 hours nearly solid now lol.


Yeah watchmojo is obvious just making  "content" for ad revenue. I continue to respect your opinions and admire your memeous operandi good sir. Keep it cracking.


I've thought about this before. I think it would be useful, for both viewer and creator, to have some kind of notification that says "hey, you have this subscription but you haven't actually watched any videos from them in about a year. Would you like to keep it?" But... do you trust YouTube to implement something like that sensibly? To resist the urge to just filter this, or exempt that, or push this and hide the other?
I don't.

I mean.... This is shit! Unsubscribed!


Very informative and funny, keep up the good work.


Emp lemon, I am so bummed I found you so late in the game.  I love your work and insights.  Are you done with Youtube?  Hope you still read your comments.  Anyways, I really like your work and hope that there is someplace you continue your creative and insightful work.


I think VSauce is B E T T E R than WatchMojo, you make a good point about how you can't neccessarily messure the success of a channel, hope your downward spiral's comfortable.


You taught me not to empty subscribe or even empty comment, and for that, I'm thankful.
When I was going through my list of subs to remove channels I don't actually watch, I noticed that youtube has to ASK if you REALLY want to unsubscribe, while subscribing doesn't. It's instant. And easy.
What a world.


Interesting education like this... I love it. Ever since the "YouTube has been on a downward spiral." video, I've always been interested in the internet's history, the way people think and act, and especially EmperorLemon's videos. Keep up this content man! They're the king! (for lack of a better joke)

It's kinda funny at this point emplemons downward spiral has only brought him more subs and views.


Sticks out for Emp Lemon<br>I actually enjoy your newer content because it is a discourse on a topic that isn't often brought up, or at the very least is from a different viewpoint with a certain unique manner of articulation.

Sticks out for Emp Lemon
I actually enjoy your newer content because it is a discourse on a topic that isn't often brought up, or at the very least is from a different viewpoint with a certain unique manner of articulation.


Sir emplemon you are a revolution man every video is a joy to watch from starting second to the end.      I'm in awe......


You cover a lot of controversial topics, your views are suppressed. Your actually getting a lot more


Just bumping for respect, I'm a binger that re watches alot of content from certian channels.  I can re watch any of your videos so long as I don't do it more than once a day lol.  Internet historian is another rewatchable channel.  It's been a long time since then huh?  At least you still make content, more than can be said for other good channels.


After watching a couple of your commentaries, I think I'd call your editing style "Bad editing done well". Do you know what I mean?

I mean he WAS a prominent YTPer a couple of years ago.

MACKBOOK123456 maybe then you should UNSUBSCRIBE

You mean "editing so bad, it's good", I take it.

MACKBOOK123456 I think he makes excellent points in all of them and the YTP style gives you a reason to keep listening. See? It's all opinion based

the "bad editing done well" reflects the style of videos that emplemon is accustomed to: YTPs

Mariner1712 for these long-form videos YTP style editing simply does not cut it, it's annoying and makes you look like a mewling infant rather than someone actually trying to make an argument.

In all honesty, I'd love to see YTP vets like EmpLemon try to edit horror films.

AwpWilliams So..... A YTP? That's the point. :v

TH3 3L1T3 Like a movie which is so bad that it makes the movie good.

Oh hi Mark.

AwpWilliams Like shitty effects that's should be bad but he makes them work.

AwpWilliams I thinks it's more like"Good Editing done bad"


over 4 years old and this video is more put together than 90% the commentary videos on youtube in 2021


it is amazing how something as simple as backwards youtube logo (10:49) can make me so uncomfortable

(and yet i'm weirdly at ease with the deep-fried edits.)

it is amazing how something as simple as _backwards youtube logo_ (10:49) can make me so uncomfortable

(and yet i'm weirdly at ease with the deep-fried edits.)


I don't know about everyone else, but listening to your rants is actually quite therapeutic and I wish you'd make more. It's weird thinking I've listed to some a dozen times, wish some of the old content creators I liked to listen to were still around. But thankfully I remembered all the chuckles I had from your YTP's and checked back in. Keep in keeping in Emp, you are more than epic 👍


I really like the videos. Insightful and very creative. GReat content. Kepep up youre  one of <br>the reason im not doing anything for my university degree.

I really like the videos. Insightful and very creative. GReat content. Kepep up youre  one of
the reason im not doing anything for my university degree.


Finally someone who acknowledges this. I've always noticed that views were more important than subscribers, and that the most popular youtubers always had shit for views. I've known this, but I've never actually seen someone talk about it. Thanks for the well needed video.

I only have 18 subs but I made over 4000 views overall and I don't upload often

@Intelligent horse <br>I'm sorry, I'm allergic to emojis.

@Intelligent horse
I'm sorry, I'm allergic to emojis.


"And nothing was the same" plays Just the Same by Gentle Giant
But in all seriousness, this content is great and I am happy that I have found your channel a few years ago.

"And nothing was the same" *plays Just the Same by Gentle Giant*
But in all seriousness, this content is great and I am happy that I have found your channel a few years ago.


I'm a new subscriber.. I love videos that merge social political analysis with outrageous audio/visual filler.. it's like giving a big "fuck you" to convention.


See, that's the problem when you want to transform the content of your channel. Some audiences stay until the gradual reform has been completely implemented and the new content is established.


Glad to see where the this channel went. Thanks for the ride nerd, im keen to see how deep this spiral goes.


"Some random quote from the video" -EmpLemon, definitely 2022

As someone from the year 2022 I can confirm he definitely actually said that


I know that this video is from 2016, but I feel like there is something to add to the story AS the empty subscriber. I have subscribed to over 10,000 other youtube channels, but barely watch even like 15 of them. It is hard to unsubscribe, because even if I am subscribed for someone for a specific niche of content that they make, if they change their content, and I stop watching, I usually don't see them ever again, even if they post something from the same niche that I subscribed for.  There have only been a few cases of an old channel I was subscribed to coming up on my recommended page for the first time since I stopped watching.


So I noticed I lost a portion of my "empty" subscribers around November 1st after uploading some...interesting content because I'm totally getting burned out from the usual crap I've been uploading and am tired of it. I honestly want to focus more on animation and fun things instead of depressing shit...

I feel like I need to step away from this channel and make another channel for what I really want to do...

Most of your views and mine come from NON-SUBSCRIBERS.

Hell, I'm not even subscribed to you, Emp. But I love your shit. 💜


I love watching Emplemon with headphones on the highest volume, it's so relaxing.

Asmr is for kids, this is the shit that satisfies my mind


I love how your wish has finally came true. You have 500k subs and your every video gets atleast 500k views on average


I’m on your Twitter as well as your YouTube and I been watching since 2010 don’t really care about the changes because so far they been pretty intriguing to watch man, keep up the good work!


Lemons are yellow
Emp was viral
Now he's stuck
 in a DOWNWARD SPIRAL

but seriously, I love EmpLemon's videos to the point of repeatedly watching them, new and old alike.  Keep up the good work, man...


This is ----

A great well made video :) Keep it up!


And as of 2018 -
Subs: 340K
Views: 319K

Not bad

Date: March 14, 2021
600k views
720k subs
Video checks out

As of 2020:
575k subs
533k views.
Good shit.

As of today his subs are at 546K and his views are at 499K

Now in 2020...
Sub 515 K
Views 980 K

curious info, ive watch a lot of videos but never suscribed

Not to be a buzzkill, but channels that make less trendy videos, videos you can always return to, tend to accumulate views over the year. Guess the calories are measured during the first week or so

@1996 Ford Crown Victoria He began to believe. He became the downwards spiral.

As of September:2019:
Subs: 474k
Views: 444k
Goo

As of June 2019 -
 457k subs
 427k views

As of June 2019 -
 457k subs
 427k views

McRecreationalNerveGasTM As of May 2019
Subs: 451K
Views: 419K

as of feb. 2019 432k subscribers and 401k views

Now 406k as of December 2018<br>Views on this vid: 327k

Now 406k as of December 2018
Views on this vid: 327k

@Ultimate Thot Slayer • 999 years ago Now it's 398000 Subs

@Oh crap! He More proof T-Series bots subscribers

@Bryan Smith Either that or he has the most diverse audience in youtube history.

And compare that to T-series.

Subs-69M
Views per video-200K (average)

Subs-392K
Views-366K
As of November 2018

Pewds went through a stylistic change around 2016 which probably caused a lot of the kids who watch him to tune out. So now, his channel is <b>THICC</b>

Pewds went through a stylistic change around 2016 which probably caused a lot of the kids who watch him to tune out. So now, his channel is *THICC*

372,258 subs 10/13/18. I feel like a historian!

Pewdiepie has a terrible ratio but it's not as bad as T-series

McRecreationalNerveGasTM this channel lost some weight


God dude I can listen to you talk about anything honestly ur super entertaining


Guys you know how we can help? Unsubscribe but then still watch all of Emp's videos so artificially decrease his empty subs


I'm not a creator, but I had basically all the same thoughts about Channel Success vs Subscriber count. This being 4 years old, your thoughts on the matter have probably progressed somewhat. But maybe I can still offer a little insight from inside the box, as an avid content consumer.
      I subscribe to a great many channels simply because I see value in them, but not because I expect to watch every video. Actually that would be impossible; I think I'm nearing 200 subscriptions currently! I look at adding a channel subscription as similar to adding a TV channel to a cable package (back in the old days, if it were free!). Each one is simply "I see talent and quality here, I'll probably want to see more from this channel sometime", not "I'm now going to watch everything this channel produces".
      Another factor that dawned on me recently is that I think YouTube channels are growing faster than users. I've noticed (I think) a clear drop across the board over the past ~year on most large channels that used to get consistently high view counts on their new videos. Maybe this is an artifact of the channels I tend to watch, but I do watch a tonne across a broad spectrum. Even "populist trashy" channels, as I'd consider them, that used to get a million views within a week on a new video, are now getting ~1/2 to 1/3 of that, it seems. And I hypothesize that this is because, as that platform matures, each user is splitting their time across a broader and broader range of content, in smaller slices.
    Ontop of all this is the role that the algorithm plays. It's a fickle bitch and I hate relying on it, but it's the only practical way to sift through content and keep finding the most interesting stuff (although I hate the way it prefers whatever I've watched most recently!). I almost never click the bell, but instead subscribe with the assumption I'll eventually watch some of that content, some day. Your channel is a great example; I subscribed ~1.5 years ago when I heard Internet Historian shout out your quality. So I looked up your channel, poked through your videos a bit and decided you had interesting content, and subscribed. But then I only watched a handful of your videos, and  never within the first few weeks of them coming out. Until the past couple months, where I've steadily worked through your back catalogue at a rate of a couple videos per week.
     As you said, we're all individuals, and I realise I'm perhaps at the far end of the spectrum when it comes to how I consume content. But at the same time, I think the "empty subscriber" model is probably at the other extreme of the spectrum. Certainly those people & accounts exist, but I'd roughly estimate they make up less than half of the "missing views" on new videos, when compared to subscriber count. The rest lie somewhere in between, they'll probably still watch some of your content, some of the time, but not necessarily immediately after the video comes out, and certainly not every video.
     I hope that helps shed a little extra insight into what's going on, and makes you a little less frustrated at the lack of views compared to subscribers. Sure, some probably should unsubscribe as they're idiots who won't watch your newer, more evolved content (and a great many are probably just dead accounts that have been forgotten, but Google hasn't closed). But still there are tonnes who still like what you produce and intend to watch more of your content eventually, just not necessarily every video, or immediately after they're released.

I'm not a creator, but I had basically all the same thoughts about Channel Success vs Subscriber count. This being 4 years old, your thoughts on the matter have probably progressed somewhat. But maybe I can still offer a little insight from inside the box, as an avid content consumer.
      I subscribe to a great many channels simply because I see value in them, but not because I expect to watch every video. Actually that would be impossible; I think I'm nearing 200 subscriptions currently! I look at adding a channel subscription as similar to adding a TV channel to a cable package (back in the old days, if it were free!). Each one is simply "I see talent and quality here, I'll probably want to see more from this channel sometime", not "I'm now going to watch everything this channel produces".
      Another factor that dawned on me recently is that I think YouTube channels are growing faster than users. I've noticed (I think) a clear drop across the board over the past ~year on most large channels that used to get consistently high view counts on their new videos. Maybe this is an artifact of the channels I tend to watch, but I do watch a tonne across a broad spectrum. Even "populist trashy" channels, as I'd consider them, that used to get a million views within a week on a new video, are now getting ~1/2 to 1/3 of that, it seems. And I hypothesize that this is because, as that platform matures, each user is splitting their time across a broader and broader range of content, in smaller slices.
    Ontop of all this is the role that the algorithm plays. It's a fickle bitch and I hate relying on it, but it's the only practical way to sift through content and keep finding the most interesting stuff (although I *hate* the way it prefers whatever I've watched most recently!). I almost never click the bell, but instead subscribe with the assumption I'll eventually watch some of that content, some day. Your channel is a great example; I subscribed ~1.5 years ago when I heard Internet Historian shout out your quality. So I looked up your channel, poked through your videos a bit and decided you had interesting content, and subscribed. But then I only watched a handful of your videos, and  never within the first few weeks of them coming out. Until the past couple months, where I've steadily worked through your back catalogue at a rate of a couple videos per week.
     As you said, we're all individuals, and I realise I'm perhaps at the far end of the spectrum when it comes to how I consume content. But at the same time, I think the "empty subscriber" model is probably at the other extreme of the spectrum. Certainly those people & accounts exist, but I'd roughly estimate they make up less than half of the "missing views" on new videos, when compared to subscriber count. The rest lie somewhere in between, they'll probably still watch some of your content, some of the time, but not necessarily immediately after the video comes out, and certainly not every video.
     I hope that helps shed a little extra insight into what's going on, and makes you a little less frustrated at the lack of views compared to subscribers. Sure, some probably should unsubscribe as they're idiots who won't watch your newer, more evolved content (and a great many are probably just dead accounts that have been forgotten, but Google hasn't closed). But still there are tonnes who still like what you produce and intend to watch more of your content eventually, just not necessarily every video, or immediately after they're released.


now his empty sub rate is about 28.8%... which is legit impressive- ironically, this video probably fixed his empty sub issue,


I didn't even discover you until after you started with the documentary style stuff. And while I love the flashes of YTP mixed within them, I probably would not be here if it was only the YTPs.


i honestly just like the personality you bring, the content is really great though


4:48-5:05 is very slightly true for me, as in my relationship with my 20 sum subscribers, 2-4 I’ve met in person and talked to, 10-14 I kinda know what they look like, talked to them or at least type chat, and know what kinda person they are, the rest I either vaguely interacted with online, know what their channel icon looks like, or at least got an opinion out of them some way or another, I think only about half a dozen of my subscribers I have no idea what they are like, or any thing at all about them,

1 lik 4 very gramer error cplz it will help my starving 89 children,,,,,,


I want to see Emp upload a YTP/edit one of his videos like this in order to see the reaction from newer fans


Haha, I'm probably the most backward viewer on youtube. Before I subscribe to a someone, I've often already been watching their videos for months. I'm oftentimes (including here) the opposite of an empty subscriber, a full non-subscriber if you will.<br>Also, I like the comment you made about subscribers being real human beings. All viewers have only so much time to watch videos so if people lose interest in a channel, the youtuber shouldn't be angry about it. We all have our own lives and decide for ourselves how to spend our time.

Haha, I'm probably the most backward viewer on youtube. Before I subscribe to a someone, I've often already been watching their videos for months. I'm oftentimes (including here) the opposite of an empty subscriber, a full non-subscriber if you will.
Also, I like the comment you made about subscribers being real human beings. All viewers have only so much time to watch videos so if people lose interest in a channel, the youtuber shouldn't be angry about it. We all have our own lives and decide for ourselves how to spend our time.


I'm still crying from the Dale Earnhardt never ever

I see 50 comments, and it’s literally one dude XD


I love these videos- even the old ones- it gives me a view of YouTube when I wasn’t there- I’ll keep watching my guy


Well done Emp, you have a really good view to sub ratio


Or there's always the option of watching content without subscribing. If the content is really good and I like to see more (other than what the algorithm pumps out) then I subscribe. There are some channels, this included, where I check in every once in a while.


never would I have thought that someone would actually want any person even if they are just 8 year olds wanting more ytps to unsubscribe, but here we are


So basically in this video you are telling your viewers to either watch all of your videos or none. No middle ground.<br>An average WatchMojo subscriber doesn't have time to watch all their videos, but they may watch something about what they're interested in, be it moustaches, funny hats or Toy Story.

So basically in this video you are telling your viewers to either watch all of your videos or none. No middle ground.
An average WatchMojo subscriber doesn't have time to watch all their videos, but they may watch something about what they're interested in, be it moustaches, funny hats or Toy Story.


I used to watch your stuff with my brother when I was younger, and now I still do, even though you make completely different content, and to be honest if you still made YouTube poops I wouldn't watch your channel.

@Sonic Xtreme99 glad we both get to enjoy this


Your Youtube commentaries are legit entertaining, especially with numerous of sources you edit in


A reason I believe everyone has empty subscribers is because, personally, I have a lot of creators I'm subscribed to and I don't get around to watching them all.


This made me clean out my subscriber list a little. Thank you.


I agree, but alot of the time people will literally just forget about a channel they subscribed to and YouTube will never show them videos from that channel.especially doesn't help that most people are too lazy to look for specific channels to watch and only go by their recommended  section. Overall great video


And now: Emp consistently gets higher views than his sub count. Poetic.


This video actually helped me think hard about the current state of youtube.  I've watched all the "rant" videos and all of them are great and dig up some problems that people seem to want to avoid, but this one... this one made me think real hard.  Good job Emp, keep it up!  I am not an empty subscriber and actively enjoy your content! :P

*Realises YouTube hid the video from me for a year until I started scrolling through all videos to see if I missed any :/

So I'm not the only one who did deep thinking about popularity on youtube because of this video?


Ive been binging this channel, its fantastic.


This guy really made a 16 minute video talking about subscribing to him XD<br>I really respect the grind

This guy really made a 16 minute video talking about subscribing to him XD
I really respect the grind


Well I personally love your old content and your new content and I hope that you do whatever you like with your channel and I'll still watch it


With everyone saying "remember to subscribe" at the beginning of their videos, that subscribe button is getting more clicks. It's proven that saying "subscribe" at the beginning is more effective, but it's annoying for frequent viewers of your video. But, I think that's coming from people thinking the subscribe button is a replacement for the like button. People no longer subscribe because they want to see more of your videos; they subscribe because they feel like they're supposed to because they liked 1 video from you that the algorithm just had them stumble upon.


Keep in mind that a most subs only watch some of your videos. With vsauce vs watchmojo, the difference is quantity. If you upload more sparsely, people are more likely to view the occasional video, hence why vsauce gets more views per video. If you have a 90% empty subscriber rate (as you measure it) but each sub watches on average 10% of your videos, doing the math, you technically have no actual empty subscribers.

I didn't completely understand, but I think you may be leading onto something...

6 months and so far nobody disagreed with you! Noice


Way too true. Plus have you noticed that major sites never have any anti-bot measures?


Good lord, how am I only discovering this masterpiece of a channel now?


I really enjoy your video's. I had a very though time enjoying youtube lately but you changed that, sonce there is actual thought behind your video's. So yeah... Good work


We don't need any YTP from you. Your style of editing just does it.


I found this channel recently when  it got mentioned as a response of mine in another video referencing Stanislav Petrov, so I decided to have a look - I'm yet to watch your Petrov video, as I've been checking your video list from oldest to newest. Most of it being YTP, a form I don't really "get" (must be the age, I guess), I've been skipping those, but this looked interesting, and it mostly delivers, so I'm curious to see how your stuff has evolved since.
On the subscriber issue, I find it interesting that you can actually hide your subscriber amount, which can be useful both if you're kinda starting out and mitigating newbie stigma, but also devaluing the measuring of your output by the amount of people that lciked a button once, and mostly letting the videos and their individual view counts and comments speak for themselves - with the bell thing, it's not like subscribing get new videos from the channels necessarily suggested to you either.
Still, for a couple of channels from my country which could use a bit more attention yet I don't watch all that much but I want to help out in some way I end up subscribing anyway - maybe on some level I'm part of the problem, but hopefully in a minor way, it's not like I'm doing it to already popular channels anyway.

Cross the Multiverse EmpLemons videos have evolved over time, and currently they’re more of a commentary type video essay with editing style inspired by his old YTP work (although it’s becoming less and less like YTP). It’s really good stuff if you ask me, and the channel has history in controversy worth exploring, however his Stanislav Petrov video is his newest video. It’s also the most streamlined in terms of editing and formatting.


I actually think Youtube was trying to fix this by "allegedly" unsubscribing people from channels. But maybe I am to hopeful if it comes to youtubes motives...


Hey man. I have been on a rabbit hole dive of you channel the last few days.  I don't really subscribe to much because I tend to find channels I like and just remember them.  I think the  constant barrage of "SUBSCRIBE AND RING MY GD BELL!" just makes me not do it. Point is even though I'm not subscribed I like your videos.  Keep doing what you are doing.


I think people subscribe for a very specific video types. If the channel is varied, a portion of the subs stays for one topic, another portion for a different topic. So the "empty subs" number is much lower. So if someone does cat videos, food review videos and cooking recipes and uploads the videos one of each every week, some subs will only watch cat videos, some will watch only food reviews, and some would watch only recipes. Only a small portion wouldn't watch any of the videos, and some subs may watch any combination of the topics.


Jesus christ Emp. This is shit!

This is THE SHIT! Another awesome video adressing the state of your channel and your views on it. <3


I know this video is already, but i just have to voice my appreciation of your music taste. Never before have i heard Gentle Giant in a youtube video, gg mate.


I don't think I subscribed for the YTP's, I subscribed for your insight. The YTP's were just a bonus.

Why not make your YTP's more politically charged. Take more piss. TAKE IT ALL!


Solid analysis. Never really thought much about this.


You go EmpLemon! You tell it like it is!


Im not into ytp. I like the analysis like this one, also the commentary and in those videos the heavy meme stuff is good too. Meaning I dont watch most of your stuff.


Something's definitely wrong with CNN's #'s:
- They were at 800k subscribers
- 8 months later ~4.5+ million

<i>Shh, shh, we don't talk about that here, friend...</i>

_Shh, shh, we don't talk about that here, friend..._


For the most part I just accept that most youtube comment sections are a disgusting cesspool of very ignorant and braindead comments. But there are some comment sections I have observed that are genuinely funny or supportive. This video made me think if videogamedunkey's comment sections, where most of the comments reference running jokes on the channel, and more light hearted than brain dead. I liked the video and it made me make the connection that a youtuber can be aware enough to build a good fanbase and somehow curate a smarter comment section.


LOL, "The vast majority of my comments just became 'LOL' or some random quote from the video"

@Ortherner commenting on a comment. Its like replying to them on their own comment like this one.

“Your not even thinking about subcribers a lot lately”

LOL

"We are pawns of something greater... Memes, the DNA of the soul" (Some random quote from) - Memesoon, of the memes of destruction

I literally watched this part at the same time I read your comment

I just saw this comment before he said it in the video

@peban so it's either write up a 200 word essay on the duality of man in relation to the content of youtube video or don't say anything at all?

I don't think that a comment needs to be some deep, meaningful discussion. laughing and quoting shouldn't be looked-down-upon.

I mean, if you want to be a 5-head big brain intellectual, go ahead. but belittling a lot of people by saying "you have nothing interesting to say so dont say anything at all" is pretty shitty and elitist.

any interaction on a youtube video that's isn't hate speech is good for the content creator and their audience.

and your comparison with the restaurant meal is not a very good one. a lot of people joke around and quote funny lines from videos, it's the same with movies or books.
no human is like "oh i like when character X said Y". that's a stilted and unnatural way of speaking. quotes are perfect because it's quick and to the point. not every interaction with content needs to be book report level quality.

Well aren't you such a quirky individual.


I think I know why this whole empty sub thing is happening. Because many people are subscribed to multiple people, and many creators make one video a day, sometimes they can’t watch some of their subscriptions and/or forget about them. That’s just a guess though.


Matpat got nothin' on this pure, unfiltered, 2,000 iq, brain power at work in these videos.


ContraPoints is a YouTuber I know who actually seems to have zero empty subscribers. Her recent videos average around 1.4 million views, with 884,000 subscribers. Then again tho her channel is basically at this point the epitome of quality over quantity; she only uploads like once every two months. But that is still very interesting.


Every time you say "downward spiral" is more amusing to me than the time before.


I watch all your YouTube poops regardless. That Drake and Josh collab was amazing

chuck mack weird and strange can be very good.

dude the collab was great. who cares if you personally don't know the ytpers if the video itself turned out fantastic

masterofbloopers  oh no Drake and josh YTP collab was horrible, there was 50 poopers who no body knew, it was strange and weird


This is the first time one of your videos has ever come up on my feed. I'd probably watch more if they came up more often but frankly I'm not a big enough fan to search you out if it's not right in front of my face.


Now I don't know if "the downward spiral" refers to EmpLemon himself or YouTube as a (Gypsy) medium.


I quite enjoy this video I find it very high quality. Thanks for the good theory.


You’ve started doing video essays. Picking somewhat discombobulated topics, they’re usually not related to eachother but it’s become a pretty consistent shtick for you.

The YouTube poop aspects of your videos can be comedic, or unfunny.


This video (even though it is quite old) is great. Even today I still compare video views to total subs.

If I wasn't so darn lazy I would do the same


I started watching your videos a few days ago and going down the rabbit hole so far I like the newer content.


6:19 and even now his videos are completely different from a few years ago, he now makes very interesting documentary's


This is shit!  Beautiful, glorious shit.  Think about it.   Even though shit is shit, somewhere out there exists an admirable, perfect shit.  This is that shit.  Glad to call myself a new subscriber.   Found your channel a couple days ago.  You’re a boss.  Keep your finger on the pulse.  Glad to see you doing so well now.  About 2 years after this video was posted.


Good video very constructive even as you said "this video was not planned out" it's still good


When I was younger and first found your channel, I wouldn't subscribe because I thought you were a forty-year-old man.


I was an empty subscriber for a long time now. I don't know, something about your videos started to put me off (triggered). Lol, I thought that Frying Dory was a thing, because I never actually opened it. And to be honest. I am subscribed to a bunch of channels but I am able to watch about 10% of the videos. I started to even add interesting things to watch later playlist and in a year's quarter it gathered 400 videos. And of course I do not watch only the channels that I am subscribed to. It is like reading the news. I want to know more, so I broaden my "search" but I actually watch/read only those most interesting to me.

However from my perspective I have seen something in your channel that, although I was not super interested in watching your videos then, I still wanted to "keep in touch"? Please keep that in mind, because I would not like to lose you from my feed.

I came back because of your video about NASCAR (here, thanks to YT suggestions!) and started watching some older videos. They are great. I am really happy that I started watching the videos again. So by saying to me to unsubscribe, you gained an active user back,.


i am amazed how i noticed that half a year before i watched this video, views matter more than subs and it feels great to have views count more than sub count and most importantly foreshadowing how common it is to have ghost subs


I was so immersed in this video, at 5:13 i could smell the pizza.


I feel like I'm one of the only people that takes emplemon seriously.


"Yo, YouTube, you should make some way to purge empty subscribers."
"Oh so you want random people to be unsubscribed?"
"Well... those who aren't regular viewers, sure."
"..."
"...uh, what are you-"
"Congrats! Your channel has been deleted."


I know this video is 2 years old, but I feel like a lot of people who subbed to you didn't realize you changed most of your content from YTP's to other things and may have not clicked on your vids because of that.


Im not a fan of the "LOUD NOISES XD" type of YTP and i have a friend who literally got life-long tinnitus because of them, but i enjoy your newer content


I'm subscribing because any channel that shows CM Punk to help explain a point of view, cannot possibly be a bad channel.


I wonder how many empty subscribers the Fine Bros. have?

I'm subbed to them but I literally only watch the reactions of the things I'm interested in, which has become so much less over the past 2 years, I pretty much only watch the Kpop reactions and some of the elders stuff since it's kinda interesting to see how they react to our 'modern media/entertainment' like the VR reactions lol. Idk how this was an answer tobyour question either, ok? I just like to shit out my opinions when no ones asking.

@Knackles Enchilada That's good to know.

@Knackles Enchilada Yeah, it looks that way.<br>It seems that a lot of channels in the millions don't have a lot of views.

@Knackles Enchilada Yeah, it looks that way.
It seems that a lot of channels in the millions don't have a lot of views.


For me, I have channels that I love and will check often. Others I also like a lot but will forget about, so I hit the notification bell. But there are others that I would need to be in the mood for - that's when they sit on my sub list with notifications off. So, I'll just occassionally pick one and be like "oh, they posted 7 new videos since I was last here... That 1 looks cool."


the best content is made when the creators are putting whatever they want in it and are making it because they want to, and are not trying to actively please their fanbase, like you said in your video about rick and morty, seasons 1 and 2 were great because they weren’t actively trying to pander towards fans, when you do that your work more often than not tends to lose it’s soul because the creators feel less motivated to make it because they are merely doing it for fans and more often than not they tend to rush through their work more when they do that, and I honestly wish more people would question the state of their fanbase like you did


I love your music taste, the intro harmonica part from take the long way home is legendary!


Remember when people were unknowingly being unsubscribed from channels? Would that have weeded out any inactive viewers from the subscriber count?


Worry not - I'll keep supporting you no matter what you want to do with your videos.


The main page of Youtube is the "Home" tab, and not the "Subscribers" tab, and its already filled with videos that the algorithm thinks you would like to watch. These videos might be from someone who you are subscribed to, or might not be. But the fact that there are already a bunch of good enough videos on the front page, tailered to your tastes, disincentivises people from clicking the subscribers tab.

Its enought to not click on your videos in the home screen a couple times for the algorithm to recognise,  that you are no longer interested in that channel's content, and after that, does not even recommend it.

People's viewing habits can change for a variety of reasons, and they might grow up, don't have time to watch youtube, family responsibilities, might get bored of  certain types of content, simply forget you exist, you changing the channel's direction and people don't like the new, but still be subscribed in hopes of the old direction returning. Hell, people might just lose their yt account and decide to create a new one.

IMO all subscribers are dead subscribers ever since youtube changed the main page from showing chronologically the channels you are subscribed to, to the algorithm driven home page


This is actually useful, nice.<br>also, I feel that someone will use this without crediting you someday.

This is actually useful, nice.
also, I feel that someone will use this without crediting you someday.


I really wish your modern videos went back to the editing style of videos like these.<br>I know that would take a lot of work, and not all of your modern videos should have this editing style (The Wizard of Oz video is an example of where it doesn't fit). But I miss this style.

I really wish your modern videos went back to the editing style of videos like these.
I know that would take a lot of work, and not all of your modern videos should have this editing style (The Wizard of Oz video is an example of where it doesn't fit). But I miss this style.


I watched Never Ever will there be another Dale Earnhardt, then the Never Ever Spongebob one, and then the one about Stanislav Petrov and I felt required to sub at that point. They were masterpieces.


I actually like this shit, emp. It may not be a popular opinion, but you do this shit well.