UPDATE: YouTube has reversed the age restriction! We're back in business, baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NorHmI6wTec

Can't believe they took down Non and Uncredibles. Not happy bob... NOT HAPPY.

hey emplemon i like your stuff and all but when ever all this election stuff blows over could you make a video similar to your how trump won with memes about who ever wins this election

Fyi, this video didn’t appear on my subscriptions page at all. Not sure why. I didn’t see it until actually going to your channel.

so glad you're back dude. it never should have been that way in the first place, youtube is honestly just completely incompetent at this point. it really doesn't make any sense. i'm happy you're still planning on making the stuff you wanna make, but you shouldn't have to worry about whether it'll be taken down or not;;; either way, glad you got your video back, man.

I recommend uploading the video to bitchute and then uploading a 30 second video on here with a link to the actual video. And then also upload the actual video to youtube.

I don't want to take All the credit for YouTube changing their minds, but I will. <br>Upward spiral? Or Unspiral?

I don't want to take All the credit for YouTube changing their minds, but I will.
Upward spiral? Or Unspiral?

5:50 the same how people circumvent censorship in china.

AI sucks, same with autogenerated captions if there are sound effects.

That means your back to making more YTP'S?

EmpLemon, just so you know, your videos are probably targeted by the system because your channel has a really low P-Score (the channels point/ the youtube point system)

Dude just go to bitchute and wait until ted Cruz destroys google and then come back

This pleases the audience

MEMES FOR THE MEME GOD

Watch me upload this entire episode of family guy and the put animal abuse videos at the end and be fully monetized thanks Susan

i just uploaded a video that is just the song tequila but it looks for 1 hour and 40 minutes and disney copyright claimed it for infringing on the sandlot

I’m gonna go enjoy some animal abuse and family guy videos that are actually family friendly you monster

Thank fuck! I was worried that I wouldn't get a chance to see it.

Even though I'm subscribed, with notifications turned on, YT still rarely notifies me of your uploads so I'm surprised that this was the first thing that came up on my homepage just now... 14 hours after you posted it... YouTube's new slogan: Near enough is good enough ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm sorry that YT keeps fucking with you, Emp... but I just two new EmpLemon videos in a row to watch, so I'm pretty stoked. Fuck those guys though, I'm heading over to StoryFire right now; thanks for all your hard work to keep shitheads like me entertained. Cheers.

Lol they got scared of your tank the rewind. They would rather you not do it again.

get every youtuber you can together and sue youtube

Can we have an hour or like a video just dedicated to the downward spiral now it's origin but just in action

Honestly tho, its a problem. What can we do?

so you can delete this video now

right?

right?

I think the reason it got taken down may have been the image of Hitler and nazis at around 11:47  in your last video. I know even history channels have problems puting that in there videos

nice man! you have the best editing I've seen

It's sad that it seems to always take dragging it out into the public for these issues to finally get resolved. I've been hearing more and more about big youtubers getting no response by going through official channels, and only having their appeals/cases responded to by tagging them on Twitter or making a video about it. The bigger dogs are their money-makers, so it doesn't even make sense from a business perspective why they wouldn't be on top of your appeals and how your videos get flagged.

WOOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

Good! You deserve the video to get spread around, it's great!

Ah finally, I was super upset because I couldn’t watch it

Upload the same videos to a youtube alternative, the more this happens the more people are going to switch away from youtube and it's cancer, glad your video got reversed, would be happier if it didnt happen in the first place

Congrats, huge win and a bit of hope that changes are happening in the background of YouTube (hinting at the Critical situation from a few weeks ago.)

That’s how it’s done. YouTube been terrible lately. Hopefully things improve post election

I mean, it's sad that it was there in the first place. I guess that's YouTube for ya.


“We can’t tell you the rules, because then you might follow them wrong.”

How the hell can i follow the rules wrong

If no one knows the rules, no one can game the system. The element of surprise works to Youtube's favor and against content creators, as intended.

I can't think of a website where it's not like this. Rules are arbitrary and can apply to almost anything. It is always at the discretion of moderators etc. to delete anything they don't like.

@TheChannel no but those that dare not enforce with true hearts do... bleed.

@TheChannel exactly, enforcement of the freedom's granted by a constitution rests on the heads of the people. Eternal vigilance and willingness to punish maliciousness are the price of freedom.

No one ever answers this question: Is it theoretically possible to hack youtube and change the logic/programming behind the rules?

We can't tell you the rules
because you'll follow them exactly
AND  WE'LL  HAVE  NO  CHOICE  BUT  TO  PAY  YOU  PROPERLY !!!
Now we can't have that now can we.

Not outlining the rules concretely does two things:
1. Covers for their shitty AI.
2. Covers for their politically biased enforcement.

50 years from now, the language to have this conversation won't even exist.

@Volvith i did figure out why it's video got age restrictions .
Because of a Trump clip .
Yeah .
Not the monsters effects .
But probably over a TRUMP clip .
EMPLEMON must read the guidelines .
YouTube HATES Trump .

Fun fact: Do this in government and you're suddenly a totalitarian dictator.
...
That's my hint that this behaviour should be FUCKING ILLEGAL.

Fun fact: _Do this in government and you're suddenly a totalitarian dictator._
...
*_That's my hint that this behaviour should be FUCKING ILLEGAL._*

You band the knee for sussan you get demonze .
You defend YouTube on the coppa story .
You get age restrictions
You can all blow me at this point .
You guys made this hell hole for your selfs .
And just like EMPLEMON once said YouTube will be fine .
You think a big tech like YouTube will care if me or you  someone gets shadow band .
You push for cencorship you will get what you deserve .

@Stevo Lution how about you go to customer service can't believe that I will say that but YouTube did ad an helper so you can check the rules out .<br>Also scene EMPLEMON is a left wing he must support sussan no matter what

@Stevo Lution how about you go to customer service can't believe that I will say that but YouTube did ad an helper so you can check the rules out .
Also scene EMPLEMON is a left wing he must support sussan no matter what

It really is messed up that nobody's allowed to know what the rules are.<br>It's all based on superstitions people have come up with from observing what gets yellow and what gets green. Supposedly you can swear but not in the first 15-30 seconds. Well I can't find anything Google released saying that's true. People had to reverse engineer that black-box style because they're so desperate to follow the rules.

It really is messed up that nobody's allowed to know what the rules are.
It's all based on superstitions people have come up with from observing what gets yellow and what gets green. Supposedly you can swear but not in the first 15-30 seconds. Well I can't find anything Google released saying that's true. People had to reverse engineer that black-box style because they're so desperate to follow the rules.

YouTube lately seems to be using a lot of "Newspeak", lol

You guys do know that YouTube is planning to remove all the EDGY stuff scene 2017 or so .
One of my videos on my other channel got age restrictions any way by the way it was like 1 min intro so .
Maybe if you guys read the guidelines first .

EMPLEMON logic .
YouTube can't do wrong it's run by ✡.
1 mouth later boo hoo guys 1 of my videos got an age restrictions I can't make money boo hoo i live in fear .

ME by the way.
Mean while I live in box and starving every day aw sorry didn't you just defend sussan like last month .

Saying that to make sure the American courts don't drop down a anchor on their head.

Getting some real Atlas Shrugged vibes here
"Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws ... just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt..”

Getting some real Atlas Shrugged vibes here
_"Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws ... just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt..”_

"We can't tell you the rules, because we don't know them."

They’re more worried about people they don’t like following the rules.


Can confirm, opening the creator dashboard is like walking blindly into a cabin in Crystal Lake.


Ironically, banning discussion on topics like conspiracy theories will only reinforce the belief in people who were skeptical.

Almost as if there's some truth to some of them...

As someone who has studied history this statement couldn't be more true. One nation beats up another that was crippled cuz some guy was backstabbed only to have it happen to them. People rarely take a step back and look at it from a logical standpoint. For example, having YouTube Kids but still limiting the adult version. Just use the other platform and don't ruin this one. I mean money wise you're gonna make more if your platform has everything from nursery rhymes to pornography. Just make some stuff require accounts. For larger content creators employ some bozos to review shit to judge it instead of a bot or improve the bots.

It's almost like YouTube's trying to hide it

“conspiracy theory” doesn’t even sound bad, it basically means “a theory theorizing that a group of people are doing bad”

Exactly, they are just going even deeper.


I like how nobody is talking about Emp uploading to Storyfire. People complain about YouTube's BS for eternity, but nobody wants to take the first rational steps to overthrowing their monopoly in this space: Promoting a competitor. It's almost like people <b>enjoy</b> being angry about YouTube. Thank you for the alternative upload, Emp.

I like how nobody is talking about Emp uploading to Storyfire. People complain about YouTube's BS for eternity, but nobody wants to take the first rational steps to overthrowing their monopoly in this space: Promoting a competitor. It's almost like people *enjoy* being angry about YouTube. Thank you for the alternative upload, Emp.

I cant upload vids to storyfire because they keep rejecting my survey

Thats the reason why i upload vids on yt and deleted storyfire

It would help if storyfire was better than any other YouTube competitors that have existed for years

months later I'm fuming that Storyfire shut down, <b>they</b> really will not let us have any alternatives

months later I'm fuming that Storyfire shut down, *they* really will not let us have any alternatives

There have been countless competitors to youtube and not a single one in 17 years has stood a chance.

I wish Bitchute was more than just political content, there are some other stuff, but the variety is low.

@RaZoX honestly not this time. Youtube is bigger than any of those sites and actually pays money to people so they have an extra big reason to stay. Youtube is a monopoly that far outweights the lightweights you mentioned in dominance.

almost all of the content creators and viewers are already exclusively on youtube, i would much rather youtube become somewhat competent then switching to a niche competitor with 0.1% of the userbase. besides, while a competitor may appear be more stable with having actually competent content policies, it's much less stable financially because it isn't backed by a massive corporation. even if a competitor gained traction, it's really just trading one problem for another i feel.

Cuz YouTube is extremely popular. Its really hard to overthrow..... but really, if super major youtubers would promote a  competitor and dont uploaf to YouTube anymore and they stick to it for years, all of them......nothing would happen cuz people would find better or similar youtubers.... oh god, youtube is such a monopoly


Youtube: that's too violent and dangery

Also youtube: have an ad promoting genocide

@TVB “waaah!  Waaaah!  People want rights and a very, very small minority in an unorganized group is doing some crimes!  Obviously they’re all terrorists!!!1!!1!  Waaaah waaaaaah!!”

@cooldude 101011 You have a point. Given the conditions under which US police are conditioned to find it acceptable to "have to" kill certain (usually Black/brown) civilians based on "killology"/sheep-wolves-sheepdogs propaganda (not joking about this, these terms are actually used in a specific common police training program), spur-of-the-moment cases are probably significantly more common than premeditated cases (in which case I would argue it's 2nd degree murder rather than manslaughter). Looks like I may have gotten the legal terminology here incorrect. That said, I stand by everything else I wrote previously, which is based on systemic analyses of the US's criminal justice system, and of the role of police as agents of state violence.

@Discount Chocolate premeditated? You really think cops are just planing to kill minorities on purpose? At most these murders are 2nd degree murder not 1st degree. Second degree constitutes spur of the moment murders.

@Trippy Shasta That's because digging into a massive pile of bullshit takes more effort than what it's worth.

@TVB 's been looking pretty quiet since this comment got posted.

@TVB BLM is more of a broad movement encompassing multiple tendencies and tactics than a single organization bearing that slogan as its name. The "official" org is run by harmless liberals - at this point, barely distinguishable from moderate conservatives - who would unilaterally condemn terrorism and throw more radical left BLM-adjacent orgs under the bus. Simply applying the blanket designation of "terrorist" to all BLM protestors, that's erring on the side of a lot of false positives or watering down the definition of terrorism to the point of uselessness. By a similar metric, every cop is a cold-blooded murderer because some of them have killed civilians during arrests, and lines of police clad in riot gear and backed by tanks are committing acts of terror on behalf of the state to intimidate even the most peaceful, unarmed, and naive anti-racist protestors, people who may find themselves having to throw a punch just to defend themselves as dozens of officers swarm the crowd on all sides for daring to stay out past sunset even if they were just walking home as a group.

This extremely inclusive classification door seems like it should swing both ways, but it doesn't because scary designations like "terrorist" only ever seem to apply to non-state actors. When an officer kills a Black civilian when nonlethal force was an option, secure in the knowledge that his city will in all likelihood refuse to prosecute him via grand jury and his department will defend him at almost every step, is that particular officer not terrorizing the civilians in the community they're supposed to "protect and serve"? Even if you believe there are troublemakers and agent provocateurs using the protests as cover to burn shit down and wreak havoc, the root sentiment that liberal and radical anti-racists unite and rally around is opposition to these occasional instances of unchecked state terrorism

No appeals to law and order are going to distract the (mostly poor and Black) communities subject to the sort of police terror from the reality of the situation: they're at the mercy of roaming gangs of armed men and women acting on behalf of the wealthy ruling class, some of whom can kill and kidnap people with little accountability if you allow them to find an excuse (and they can easily find an excuse) because they enjoy legal protections that criminal gangsters and other (implied to be Black or brown) "thugs" often don't, precisely because they're state actors. Which do you think is more dangerous to a peaceful civilian, all else equal? The gangster whose mugshot shows up on the nightly news and will very likely serve life in prison for murder with zero political pressure from the masses, or the officer whose unprovoked and premeditated killing requires sustained pressure from the masses to even warrant a manslaughter charge?

Returning to the earlier point about false positives, the FBI terrorism watchlist and similar government terrorism lists are a fucking joke. The FBI are themselves basically federal cops, which necessarily makes them potential political enemies of a movement like BLM and motivated to use any tools at their disposal to artificially discredit, criminalize, and demonize that movement.

This is why the FBI would want to cast a wide net to scare white and politically conservative people to turn them against ultimately just causes like the movement for Black lives and other people's movements. Such lists also provide pretext to monitor and surveil even the tamest political groups outside the liberal political mainstream, including completely nonviolent liberals for daring to question the bad behavior of even a few bad apples among the police. This is transparently a divide-and-conquer tactic to turn otherwise potentially sympathetic people who might have a common cause on other issues (especially economic issues!) against anyone using the BLM slogan.

@TVB BLM is more of a broad movement encompassing multiple tendencies and tactics than a single organization bearing that slogan as its name. The "official" org is run by harmless liberals - at this point, barely distinguishable from moderate conservatives - who would unilaterally condemn terrorism and throw more radical left BLM-adjacent orgs under the bus. Simply applying the blanket designation of "terrorist" to all BLM protestors, that's erring on the side of a lot of false positives or watering down the definition of terrorism to the point of uselessness. By a similar metric, every cop is a cold-blooded murderer because some of them have killed civilians during arrests, and lines of police clad in riot gear and backed by tanks are committing acts of terror on behalf of the state to intimidate even the most peaceful, unarmed, and naive anti-racist protestors, people who may find themselves having to throw a punch just to defend themselves as dozens of officers swarm the crowd on all sides for daring to stay out past sunset even if they were just walking home as a group.

This extremely inclusive classification door seems like it should swing both ways, but it doesn't because scary designations like "terrorist" only ever seem to apply to non-state actors. When an officer kills a Black civilian when nonlethal force was an option, secure in the knowledge that his city will in all likelihood refuse to prosecute him via grand jury and his department will defend him at almost every step, is that particular officer *not* terrorizing the civilians in the community they're supposed to "protect and serve"? Even if you believe there are troublemakers and agent provocateurs using the protests as cover to burn shit down and wreak havoc, the root sentiment that liberal and radical anti-racists unite and rally around is opposition to these occasional instances of unchecked state terrorism

No appeals to law and order are going to distract the (mostly poor and Black) communities subject to the sort of police terror from the reality of the situation: they're at the mercy of roaming gangs of armed men and women acting on behalf of the wealthy ruling class, some of whom can kill and kidnap people with little accountability if you allow them to find an excuse (and they can easily find an excuse) because they enjoy legal protections that criminal gangsters and other (implied to be Black or brown) "thugs" often don't, precisely *because* they're state actors. Which do you think is more dangerous to a peaceful civilian, all else equal? The gangster whose mugshot shows up on the nightly news and will very likely serve life in prison for murder with zero political pressure from the masses, or the officer whose unprovoked and premeditated killing requires sustained pressure from the masses to even warrant a manslaughter charge?

Returning to the earlier point about false positives, the FBI terrorism watchlist and similar government terrorism lists are a fucking joke. The FBI are themselves basically federal cops, which necessarily makes them potential political enemies of a movement like BLM and motivated to use any tools at their disposal to artificially discredit, criminalize, and demonize that movement.

This is why the FBI would want to cast a wide net to scare white and politically conservative people to turn them against ultimately just causes like the movement for Black lives and other people's movements. Such lists also provide pretext to monitor and surveil even the tamest political groups outside the liberal political mainstream, including completely nonviolent liberals for daring to question the bad behavior of even a few bad apples among the police. This is transparently a divide-and-conquer tactic to turn otherwise potentially sympathetic people who might have a common cause on other issues (especially economic issues!) against anyone using the BLM slogan.

Sounds like every TAKE THIS SURVEY TO TELL TRUMP YOU WANT TO DEFEND ICE ad from 2-ish years ago.


I'm right there with you buddy. I've been going through the same thing for the last 3 years. It's fucking crazy. They're so worried about pissing off the money men that they are fucking over the people that make them money. It's so backward.

I remember you, didn't you have heart surgery?


having a vague censorship system is the most efficient: it force creator  to censor themself  all the while permitting you to go way further


man talks about spooky film
YT: "Too scary for people, begone."

literal real-life animal abuse
YT: "That's good content right there."

*man talks about spooky film*
YT: "Too scary for people, begone."

*literal real-life animal abuse*
YT: "That's good content right there."

@Bilb Ono It seems like he's trying to say that Youtube is alright with people torturing animals as long as they are Asian because YouTube doesn't want to be accused of being racist for suppressing Korean culture (As in eating octopuses alive which is an argument that people make to defend videos like that)

Youtube doesn't hold animal life and vehicles being destroyed while carrying passengers on the same level as people that you can actually see their faces and people in general.

<i>>Throwback to the literal thousands of "funny" videos involving people getting hurt that used to rule youtube</i>

_>Throwback to the literal thousands of "funny" videos involving people getting hurt that used to rule youtube_

Good for the whole family. Hell, put it on YTKids!

YT: "Oh no, we can't monitize an essay on a horror movie."

Also YT: "Monitize people (especially celebrities) donating and promoting terrorist acts like BLM and also talk about the 2015 Paris and 2017 Las Vegas massacres as well as uploads of plane crash and animal abuse compilations."

@Salmon Ella they finally took down that channel that kills animals? I couldn't believe after I had flagged the channel  and didnt anything. That's when I lost all hope for YouTube and Google

They don't want to actually solve their own problems. They'd rather take down any videos criticizing this behavior and pretend everything is fine

graphic Islamic beheading
YT: "I don't see anything wrong."
scary movie review
YT: "*REEEEEMMMOOOVVEEEDDD*"

*graphic Islamic beheading*
YT: "I don't see anything wrong."
*scary movie review*
YT: "*REEEEEMMMOOOVVEEEDDD*"

And then the person who features a heavily censored version of that same animal abuse video right from youtube gets deleted for animal abuse.

Go and look up "Rat Dying Compilation" on youtube.

@Bilb Ono You know the third world doesn't only consist of Africa, right? It also involves places like Southeastern Asia or wherever. They easily get away with abusing animals, copying content, and so forth, despite people exposing their acts. Yet when someone like well, emplemon for example, uploads a video with a meager amount of copyrighted content, he gets utterly obliterated. Like, instantly.  Don't look up Susan W's early life, by the way. And to prove that YouTube is simply choosing to let this scum happen, they sure didn't seem too keen to take down Logan Paul's suicide forest video.

GAMP: Sicker than your average kigger nilller

These are the same guys who didn't bother deleting Logan Paul's YouTube channel after he filmed him and his friends going into a Japanese suicide forest and laughing at a dead man

Cancerous toy channel vids with disturbing thumbnails aimed at kids
YT: 👍
Movie analysis vid meant for adults
YT: NUUUUUUUUU THINK ABOUT DA CHILDREN!!! >:0

*Cancerous toy channel vids with disturbing thumbnails aimed at kids*
YT: 👍
*Movie analysis vid meant for adults*
YT: NUUUUUUUUU THINK ABOUT DA CHILDREN!!! >:0

Yeah took youtube litteraly a year to take down peluchin entertainment

YT: "Can't say certain phrases in the comments, even if you are trying to persuade people away from those toxic ideologies"
Also YT: "Boarderline CP is A-OK"
I wouldn't be surprised if this comment is auto-deleted...

*YT:* _"Can't say certain phrases in the comments, even if you are trying to persuade people away from those toxic ideologies"_
*Also YT:* _"Boarderline CP is A-OK"_
I wouldn't be surprised if this comment is auto-deleted...

The guys abusing animals are third world savages, not civilized people, that's why.

Logan Paul films dead body:
Youtube: This is some gourmet shit

Logan Paul films dead body:
Youtube: *This is some gourmet shit*

a real suicide victim
YT: "Top seems fair"

*a real suicide victim*
YT: "Top seems fair"


Honostly, I love how real and angry your voice gets discussing this topic, its palpable. Also feel bad that your hard work is in the hands of a platform that cares nothing for you.


Honestly as soon as they started to “moderate” anything on this platform that wasn’t copyright, it’s all downhill from there.


Not important, a just very comedic tangent.

I uploaded an unlisted 20 second clip of me putting a cassette into my tape deck for my friends on discord. The clip a year later was then hit as 18+, and after the appeal they still kept the 18+ restriction.

My mixtape was literally to hot for youtube.

@AdamofBlastWorks exactly what I thought

@bitelaserkhalif 平家boy천궁파워서플라이 that might be intentional and manually white listing that.

Bots are too idiotic
They made video that shouldn't be age restricted got restricted
but straight up ignoring cardi b wap

YouTube decided that only a boomer could understand what's happening on the video anyway. Analog media? No streaming? What's this, some kind of middle ages technology? :D

The bot must have thought it was machine pron. Inserting a wide cassette tape into the small slot of a cassette player...


After all the recent shadow bans going on, I’ve a feeling YTs “bots” are more human then YT is willing to admit.


"history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes" - Mark Twain.

It does repeat itself. The earth & the solar system resets every 450,000 years.

History doesn't repeat, human behavior does.

@Just some Danger! Bigfoot! with internet access he was a wise man

@Just some Danger! Bigfoot! with internet access honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if Qin Xihuangdi <b>did</b> actually say that.

@Just some Danger! Bigfoot! with internet access honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if Qin Xihuangdi *did* actually say that.

"Someday, some jackass will make up a quote I didn't say on the internet for likes." - Qin Shi Huang Circa 221 B.C.

"I like big butts and i cannot lie, all you otha' brothers cannot deny. "<br>- Martin Luthier King JR.

"I like big butts and i cannot lie, all you otha' brothers cannot deny. "
- Martin Luthier King JR.

<i>Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.</i>

_Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce._


You’re one of the only REAL YouTubes left that I really enjoy watching. All your videos even the poops are amazing I’ll try and buy a shirt or something you’re great EMP keep it up


Hello, User!
Hi, this is Youtube checking in with you. We saw that you had some questions as to why your video is being targeted by the site! We figured we might as well be as transparent as possible in telling you why.
For one, your video wasn't innocuous, sanitized, childproof, and disposable. So we disposed of it for you! To succeed on our wonderful platform in the future we strongly recommend that you're edgy enough to definitely not be a violation of COPPA, but not edgy enough that a child's mom or a journalist could throw a temper tantrum.
We also recommend that you uppload waaaaayyy more than you are now. You ought to be putting out daily videos! You have to outpace the competition! You need to be attractive so we can put your face next to lots of brands!
We've decided that in order to help you out, we're going to delete your old catalogue and give you a clean slate to start with.
This has been your check-in from YouTube, goodbye and good luck!

The part about coppa is spot on,I had the same thought while watching this. Can't be too kid friendly, but can't be too adult friendly either, or else you get no money 🤦♂


YouTube should either go all in on the "We just review things based on what we think on a case by case basis" and not even try to appear fair, or go all in on the "We use bots and very specific rules that detail exactly what you can and can't post". The current rules of "we just determine what the rules mean on a case by case basis" doesn't work on any level


Armchair historian: quits

Other history channels: oh no...


Brickle Your Frickle Another proof of Emp’s downward spiral video still living to its name if not worse

@FasterSpinDash Won't say much about that here other than I said it in general terms, not the EmpLemon video specifically.

The closest that Emplemon's video was political was that one passing comment he made about the "virus" (can't say it fully without getting censored) and that might have triggered the algorithm to restrict his video as well.

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) what does politics have to do with this?

This has been a Rich Evans sponsored comment.

Hey bosh love your cud’s keep them going

The moment Susan is no longer in power will be a greater triumph than any other dethroning of power in the history of man.

It's really the dense, lazy mods who slap together code and call it an "algorithm".

@Stan Refermat NoNoNoNo! it's WOAH (The Crash Bandicoot Meme) Jizz Ki,<br>yes, Susan has Jizz in the name.

@Stan Refermat NoNoNoNo! it's WOAH (The Crash Bandicoot Meme) Jizz Ki,
yes, Susan has Jizz in the name.

Everyone is here smash bros ultimate: youtube edition

And contrary to what most people believe, what YouTube is doing is motivated by politics, not money.

What if Susan got one of her videos demonized?


Honestly, it's gotten to the point where YouTube videos are basically sidewalk chalk drawings; all your hard work being washed away by an unfeeling entity at any time for no reason is just an accepted aspect of the art form.


I'm proud of you, Emp. Fighting for your right to no longer be silenced or restrained is always the way to go.


I'm glad YouTube restored your video but this is disgusting this happened in the first place. You're doing the best by holding through and inspiring the small guys. Thank you for your effort.


You know, it’s things like this that make me realize that if i were to make a site like youtube, but with fixed, more flexable terms and stuff, i could effectively be more popular than youtube by effectively doing what youtube used to do and sticking to it instead of desending down youtube’s route.
If anyone that works at youtube sees this, i can effectively be better than you by being you before all this.
Oh, and if this gets taken down for whatever reason, then i know i must have struck a nerve there.


"What it's just an ordinary content warnin- OH MY GOODNESS!!!!"

GOOD LORD, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE???


I really found “Horror in Isolation” to be informative, thematic, and insightful. There’s a lot one can take away from the video. It’s so frustrating YouTube rejects content like this, without rhyme or reason.

Emp, I know I’m a fan but you deserve better than this. You’re a bloody legend for making your content. I really, really hope you make it out of YouTube’s downward spiral.


The amount of editing Emp puts into an update video both horrifies and wonderfully dazzles me


I feel like surviving The Thing is easier than understanding the YouTube ToS


I can’t imagine the pain of making analysis videos. Yet you still make them, even if you’re censored. This is the kind of person we need on YouTube


Hey Emp, software engineer here. From a developer's business/legal standpoint, it doesn't make sense to add a creator to a whitelist after being manually reviewed, especially if they upload a different video later. From a data analysis standpoint, a re-edited copy of the same video might as well be a completely different video, so if you upload an edited version of a manually reviewed video the algorithm has to re-evaluate it from scratch.<br>I agree that the blacklist is ridiculous, but just wanted to share the technical reason this happened to you.

Hey Emp, software engineer here. From a developer's business/legal standpoint, it doesn't make sense to add a creator to a whitelist after being manually reviewed, especially if they upload a different video later. From a data analysis standpoint, a re-edited copy of the same video might as well be a completely different video, so if you upload an edited version of a manually reviewed video the algorithm has to re-evaluate it from scratch.
I agree that the blacklist is ridiculous, but just wanted to share the technical reason this happened to you.

That does not at all explain why this happened to him, this just explains the obvious that a whitelist is not a thing across the board, even for slightly altered reuploads. What he needs the answer to is why they took struck it down in the first place.

@Muffin Ch. アグリバスタード  I'm not sure why you assume that the technology for what I'm describing somehow doesn't exist. A software that can use machine learning to identify features in one piece of media(ex: a video), that have the ability to correlate those same features to another piece of media, is not some alien technology from the far future. Think of an algorithm that can identify if two pictures are of the same person. The similar features can be highlighted and analyzed by a human. Machine learning algorithms does not always equals black boxes.

But fair enough, no need to argue any further. I doubt that continuing the discussion would lead anywhere.

@Void of Space and Time You know a mega server is just a bunch of expensive computers in the same room, right? All they do is make the code run faster by splitting different jobs into parts and running them concurrently.<br>Also, since video search is the same as image search, why don't you code it yourself if you're so smart? The algorithm already exists, right? Should be ezpz for someone as smart as you :)

@Void of Space and Time You know a mega server is just a bunch of expensive computers in the same room, right? All they do is make the code run faster by splitting different jobs into parts and running them concurrently.
Also, since video search is the same as image search, why don't you code it yourself if you're so smart? The algorithm already exists, right? Should be ezpz for someone as smart as you :)

@JJ  I am done arguing over this, it's been over 24 hours and I don't really remember the video, so I'll just justify my previous statements by saying that I never meant that the YouTube algorithms are never going to improve. Obviously, they will. It's just going to take a while, because the technology doesn't exist yet. <br>Also, I never meant to imply that fuzzy logic was the only piece of the algorithm. I was merely showing a fraction of the complex math required to do what you described. There is MUCH more to it than that, but fuzzy logic is definitely an integral piece of the puzzle.

@JJ  I am done arguing over this, it's been over 24 hours and I don't really remember the video, so I'll just justify my previous statements by saying that I never meant that the YouTube algorithms are never going to improve. Obviously, they will. It's just going to take a while, because the technology doesn't exist yet.
Also, I never meant to imply that fuzzy logic was the only piece of the algorithm. I was merely showing a fraction of the complex math required to do what you described. There is MUCH more to it than that, but fuzzy logic is definitely an integral piece of the puzzle.

@Muffin Ch. アグリバスタード You assume that to create a gargantuan algorithm impossible to comprehend, and that cannot even know internally what itself is doing, is the only way to identify copyright infringement, but it's not. I might have exaggerated when I said it was "basic" to identify features in a video and compare it with other's, but what I meant is that it was "basic" for a company like YouTube to implement something like that. The algorithm they have created can clearly already identify what in the video is infringing, or else it would not work at all. From that point, it's a matter of extracting that information, storing it and applying it in other videos. Since the other video in question is almost a carbon copy of the other, it should be possible to correlate both videos with each other, identify that the only infringing parts of the videos were already previously identified by a human as "not being a problem", and to let the video go live. That is not "magic", that is completely within the realm of possibilities. But that would make sense. To assume that since YouTube implement "fuzzy logic" (which I think is a massive oversimplification of what is actually going on, but whatever), then the system has to be a black box with no way to access to it's internal working in any way, is to me closer to thinking of computers as being "magic" than my own assessment. But I digress.

If the whole system was, as you say, just a giant fuzzy algorithm, with no way whatsoever to reach what was inside, then you might have a point. If it was, however, then it would fall into my first guess as to why the system is as it is: They have lost the ability to comprehend or control the software they created in any way, shape or form and they're just as lost as anyone else as to why it makes these decisions. A scary thought indeed.

On a different note, you argue that since YouTube is one of the only (maybe the only?) company with an algorithm to identify copyright infringement, therefore their system is the best we can do. That is a fallacy. For all we know, YouTube's approach to copyright infringement detection is completely wrongheaded and will be looked back in a few year as a failed experiment. There is such a thing as being fit for purpose. Yes, there are too many videos being uploaded at one time to review all of them by humans (although they could very well review manually videos created by bigger creators, and the fact that they don't is baffling in it's own way). However, just because there is a need for a review system, doesn't mean that their approach is fit for purpose. And fit for purpose it ain't. To have an algorithm make decisions that impact the livelihood of people, without even being able to justify those decisions in the most basic way, or even learn from those decisions when clearly told those decisions are wrong, is in my opinion wrongheaded. The only reason people on YouTube accept it is because they have no choice.

@Trenos301 We've had neural nets that do this kind of work for years. Google has made this kind of thing an iterated on it for years. If Google, dataminiest company of the miners of data, does not have enough data to train their nets on for this kind of work, with Youtube even being at their disposal, than they are just bad.

Google has mega servers for a reason. If they're too dumb in the code for the system to automatically realise a video is almost exactly the same as it was before then they've done nothing to improve it. Can't say I'm surprised, though. They managed to dumb down image search.

What really is happening is that the algorithm is so global that his sample doesn't affect the bot that much, or the algorithm is not allowed to use real samples as training data, I find the latter unlikely.<br>Although, the algorithm is likely many branched and cached states of the same system that gets deployed in phases, so his influence on it may not be felt until some later date.

What really is happening is that the algorithm is so global that his sample doesn't affect the bot that much, or the algorithm is not allowed to use real samples as training data, I find the latter unlikely.
Although, the algorithm is likely many branched and cached states of the same system that gets deployed in phases, so his influence on it may not be felt until some later date.

The bot is not a data driven match/compare procedure, it is already a featural neural net, something that is indeed trivial and in fact integral to its operation is to have reinforcement systems for preferred or unwanted features to be highlighted by it, that is an aspect of its definition

@JJ Duwang is spitting straight facts, if an algorithm such as you suggest were so easy to implement, then why has nobody implemented a system like this? Given, the systems in place on youtube aren't really found on any other platform, but therein lies the issue. Youtube is essentially forging a path in the dark, what with the legal/consumer-needs balance when it comes to video hosting. Even if it were so easy to create, you would then have the GARGANTUAN task of looking through the established code/algorithms, and attempting to merge them together. Working with amalgamated code sucks.

To be clear, I'm not trying to be aggressive or toxic in refuting you so harshly. I simply don't want people spreading misinformation, and harshness gets across very clearly in YouTube comments

@JJ The fact that you called that feature "basic" shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. That's very complex, especially in the realm of video analysis. Look up Fuzzy Logic and the math behind it. Computers are not magic. You can't just tell it to do something like that and have it work. Somebody has to define an algorithm that takes a list of concepts, which can be billions of concepts long by the way, and checks that concept in every second of all of the millions of videos on this platform. This is not basic. This is ADVANCED technology that just doesn't exist. Name ONE existing copyright/TOS violation detection algorithm better than YouTube's. You can't. Because at the moment, it's the best we have.

@Sydney Bean I agree. Many people have a very high opinion of Google when it comes to software, but I'm starting to think that reputation is unwarranted.

@Muffin Ch. アグリバスタード I'm not necessarily talking about the reupload of the same video. I'm saying that if the algorithm identify a feature it finds in a video to be a problem, but then finds out later on that it's not, it should flag that feature as "ok" so that it doesn't do the same mistake again. It might or might not use that information to better analyse videos by other creators, but the fact that it flags the same problem two times when analysing two videos by the same creator is just egregious. For a company like Google, that makes billions of profit a year, to not implement something so basic is pretty suspicious. To me, it's either one of two things.

1: They are incapable of doing it, either because they lost control of the software and/or all the competent people left the company for greener pasture
2: They are unwilling to implement such a change because they either don't care whatsoever for the creators or they think it's in their best interest to leave them in a state of constant fear and paranoia.

Either way, it does not reflect well on them as a company.

Underrated comment.

I still don't think it justifies YouTube age-restricting the video though.

@JJ You can't just trust a user not to upload something against TOS, if they find out they're whitelisted they could take advantage of it and post something against TOS.<br>It sucks, but ask ANYONE in software if they trust their users. It's not safe.

@JJ You can't just trust a user not to upload something against TOS, if they find out they're whitelisted they could take advantage of it and post something against TOS.
It sucks, but ask ANYONE in software if they trust their users. It's not safe.

@HeXaGoN no, he said that he took down the original video that was manually reviewed, re-edited it because he was unsatisfied with it, and re-uploaded it. That makes it, from a computer's standpoint, a completely new video.<br>In theory, yes, it's possible to keep a copy of manually reviewed videos in a cache, and use the video recognition algorithm to determine they are the same basic video, but in practice this is impractical, as it's an edge case.

@HeXaGoN no, he said that he took down the original video that was manually reviewed, re-edited it because he was unsatisfied with it, and re-uploaded it. That makes it, from a computer's standpoint, a completely new video.
In theory, yes, it's possible to keep a copy of manually reviewed videos in a cache, and use the video recognition algorithm to determine they are the same basic video, but in practice this is impractical, as it's an edge case.

If the bot flags something that it thinks is infringing in the video, then finds out later on that it's not, then it should keep a note internally that this particular thing is not a problem. The fact that it flags multiple videos by the exact same creator for the exact same thing, even after being told it's not infringing on anything, is pretty silly.

I think you misunderstood what he said. Correct me if I'm wrong but what he really seemed to mean was that he was surprised the video he filed the appeal for wasn't added to some whitelist, which would make a whole lot more sense, as that sort of thing could just be metadata stored with each video on YouTube's end.

@Picky Physics Student Sounds like an expensive process if it's automated - processing still images is fairly fast, but processing video to find things that would violate the TOS is much more intense for computers.

Also, hi again.

AI might do reinforcement on manual samples

I've heard that there are third party services which can scan your video, beforehand and give you a percentage chance of it being safe for YT upload. Its the equivalent of submitting an assignment in UNI and getting a free Plagiarism scan, before submitting it and tripping alarm bells.


Don't feel bad Emp, I was getting it recommended it to me and so were all my friends. Those of us who enjoy your content will watch any video you put out regardless of all the hurdles we may have to go through, they're just so well edited and put together that it's impossible NOT to watch them. Keep going strong Emp


hold on....youtube poop is included in the YouTube Demonetization Words....i cant even...


I think this happens to you way more often than to any other youtuber. My guess is that  youtube's system tagged your channel as "fishy" (like permanently), so now it takes minimal amount of "negativity" determined by AI to block a video. In other words, it treats you differently. Like you're an ex criminal that just got out of jail.


Hey Emp, I think having the Nazi imagery when talking about the "greatest human atrocities" might've set it off. My guess.


This is a situation where I literally cannot see anyone siding with YouTube on this one. It's like when Charlie and Phillip DeFranco got that weird thing taken off. This was an even bigger no brainer than restoring Mumkey's channel... oh wait.... GODDAMMIT YOUTUBE!!!!


Luckily caught this one before any take downs. Thank you for continuing to give us excellent content, despite what YouTube wants you to do. I appreciate that you reuploaded the video too, even on another site, I'd happily watch your content wherever because it is just so good.


Youtube: this film can't be on youtube.
sells the same film on their platform

Youtube: this film can't be on youtube.
*sells the same film on their platform*


There are many things that i stand against YouTube for, but this one i'm actually in favor. Today's world is bad enough as it already is, people need wholesome content, not more horror and anxiety.
It does not matter if it is a documentary, if it is a showcase, if it is a "behind the scenes" footage, et cetera; Every detail helps to make or break happiness, specially in today's day and age, and i am no blind and sleepy fool when it comes to that.

Sometimes, even if you have the best of intentions, you must have everything in mind, so it does not spread more chaos to the world.


“Too Violent.” I’ve literally seen a girls head split open on a completely monetized video...

@i don't check my notifications I guess they never fixed it since you grew up to be an emplemon fan

@Jacob P. gay and reported. Just like or ignore then move on like the rest of us, there is no room for pseudo intellectuals here.

Well when machines are enforcing the rules you aren't going to have a super consistent  experience with it enforcing grey areas of societies "rules"<br>YouTube doesn't appear to make enough money to hire enough humans to review stuff

Well when machines are enforcing the rules you aren't going to have a super consistent  experience with it enforcing grey areas of societies "rules"
YouTube doesn't appear to make enough money to hire enough humans to review stuff

@shawcrow meh were creatures that used to be surrounded by death who aren't anymore and pepper get weird about something that was so core to the human experience up until a few generations ago it's just odd

Looks like it got age restricted, so there's that...

I'm a girl and my head split open when I was a baby and this hits close to home woah

@Jacob P. just because someone doesn't enjoy witnessing acts of graphic violence doesn't mean they "haven't come to terms with their mortality." you think watching a graphic video means you're enlightened or something? you remind me all those nihilists who believe they're enlightened because they deny themselves any feeling of purpose or meaning in favor of a cold, unfeeling "factual" view of reality

@Zawmbbeh the faster you come to terms with your mortality, the better. People shouldn't be shielding themselves from that content because they 'can't handle it.' We all have a due date, and the denial will eventually come crashing in on you.

@Mr Bad Guy oooooh i know this channel but instead of feeling disgusted i felt completely numb to it and i was like "wow her head got split open ok"

I’ve, multiple times, seen videos on YouTube of someone getting shot in the head multiple times. Still up. fucking awesome, YouTube.

Probably got claimed by a music company from Brazil


This is like when your boss forgets to add the half time on your overtime check.


YouTube: “Broadcast Yourself! (As long as it’s within our rats-nest of a guideline system...or maybe we’ll take it down for no reason and not tell you why”

God I hate this site and how those in charge don’t even care about 95% of its users...


Love your content Emp! Watching you and your talent evolve over the years has been so interesting! I laughed my ass off at your YTP’s back in the day and I love your in depth and informative analyses of a wide range of topics! I got a chance to watch your breakdown of the thing before it was taken down and you honestly gave me the push to buy the movie here on YouTube! It’s awesome that you aren’t letting YouTube discourage your ability to keep coming up with great videos!! Looking forward to the next one!!


This is so cool and epic, Susan! You’re really good at your job!


This is why censorship doesn't work...it doesn't suppress discussion. Just makes grown men talk like children to avoid angering an oblivious Big Brother.

The whole world’s legal system is broken.

The whole world’s legal system is broken.

You're not just describing censorship; you're describing the law itself.

@thinly veiled alien oh I’m aware, Nazis, fascists, white nationalists, they’re all here. When they’re even in the White House then I’d say it’s natural to find them on YouTube.

banning words does not stop racism. it passes the buck to other people so that you don't have to make any difficult decisions. but you still will, eventually. and you'll be like "but we banned blackface, how could this have happened"

@JazuX exactly, they were the first people that had to learn how to get past censorship. i hate to say "we could learn something from nazis," but it's like fighting unarmed otherwise

@Greedy Gamer the problem with saying "so you want nazis?" is that youtube already has nazis, and they're just fine with speaking in code because actual racism is harder to stop than naughty words

tbh they do it mainly because of advertisers, so it would be more logical to blame them instead of the platforms, but yeah, YT has gone full retard more times than I can remember

@thinly veiled alien youtubers need to consult the ancient ones, the internet racists. They've become exceedingly efficient at circumventing censorship using every day words and letters.

@TissuePaper and it still continues to be.

@TissuePaper and it still continues to be.

@Sebastian Hahn I see what you’re trying to say, but the sheer amount of things on YouTube alone that would then require legal action is staggering. Everything needs to be reported to the authorities, who then need to track down who the user is, arrest them for questioning, leading to a possible trial which would be both lengthy and costly.

It’s easier to just ban them for breaking community guidelines (which exist for a very good reason).

@Greedy Gamer you understand that YouTube was created as a means to "broadcast yourself". It wasn't designed with any purpose in mind other than that, and it was successful for ten years under that model.

@Greedy Gamer What shady corner of the internet? Giant corporate platforms like youtube, facebook, twitter and reddit aren't small, unknown corners of the internet; and Prism is a thing, remember? I say that, for the most part, content and speech regulation should be more or less left up to agencies actually legally qualified to determine hat is and is not legal expression. Websites should be able to moderate based on relevancy; but on giant platforms like the ones we're talking about here, nearly everything is relevant.

Porn should be only allowed on websites that explicitly allow it; and gore shouldn't be allowed anywhere, for the most part (fake gore from movies, and videos or images used for informative or educational purposes being the exception); But political speech, even heinous political speech, should never be censored (again, unless it isn't relevant, which isn't the case on large websites like these being discussed). Incitement and directed threats are obviously not okay, but they're also already illegal. Platforms should not enforce speech laws, but should rather defer to legitimate legal authorities to handle such actions.

Said legal authorities may need to be expanded somewhat to handle the extra capacity, but let's not kid ourselves here, they'd just be making official what they've already been doing anyway without telling us. They already have most of that infrastructure in place.

In short, ISPs as well as large platforms act more as infrastructure than as private organizations. Them being able to arbitrarily censor legal speech, business, or other activity is a detriment to public interests. They should be banned from doing it in the same way that businesses are banned from discriminating on the basis of race, sexuality, religion, ideology, political affiliation, or etc.

And when someone breaks laws or norms on the premises of a private business irl, these businesses typically do not have private security forces to enforce their own version of the law. They call actual authorities employed by our representational and somewhat accountable government to handle the situation. I see no reason that online businesses, especially platforms, should be any different.

@Greedy Gamer They said it doesn't work; the seeming implication being that we should want it to? (we shouldn't).

@Sebastian Hahn except that light doesn’t actually work as disinfectant if it’s on a shady unregulated corner of the internet.

@Greedy Gamer "so if you start a forum for discussions on car repair, it’s completely fine if people come there and start talking about “slaughtering the inferior people” or something?"

Unironically, yes. Let people like that incriminate themselves. Light is the best disinfectant. What constitutes legal public speech is the purview of law and civics, not of private corporations who've now expropriated nearly all social and political discourse.

@Sebastian Hahn they never implied it was positive

you say that as if suppressing discussion is somehow a positive thing and not blatant authoritarianism in complete opposition to the foundational ideals of all advanced western nations.

@Lord Omega there are other places where you can happily do that. 4chan, Reddit, Pornhub, places where this is accepted. If you really hate that you can’t get that stuff on YouTube, why are you still here?

@Gabbo  hold on, YouTube IS a private company, that is the topic. YouTube isn’t silencing people to control the masses, it’s enforcing its TOS and Community Guidelines. It isn’t silencing people for having “wrong opinions”, it’s keeping people from deviating from community guidelines and posting gore videos. Is it inconsistent? Yes. Is it ineffective? Yes. Is this expected of the largest video sharing site on the world? Absolutely.

@Gabbo you’re wrong, I’m around lower middle class and live in a deprived area in Ireland. What would that have to do with anything?

@Greedy Gamer You aren’t really stupid enough to try comparing YouTube, an incredibly broad platform that has videos covering a plethora of completely different subjects, to a car repair forum, which is a very specific niche, are you? Someone leaving comments about slaughtering others has no place on a car forum because what does that have to do with cars? The comparison you’re trying to make only makes sense on an individual channel level, where a creator wants to keep their channel away from certain topics, and that’s what features like the ability to review comments are for. That’s not something YouTube as a whole should have any business in, with very, VERY limited exception. The most I’d say is permissible to censor on a platform-level would be comments that clearly violate U.S. federal law, such as sharing a link to where someone could download CP, and spam from bots. Anything else should be left up to the discretion of whoever runs their channel.

@Greedy Gamer The topic isnt "Private companies and owners cant enforce rules" the topic is "is it ethical to censor and silence people?" and the answer is no, it is not. Censorship has been used universally as a way to control the populace under a thinly veiled mask of ethics and morality.
If you create a forum about cars and car repair, one of the first rules you would make would be "stay on topic", no? You own the forum after all, and you made it with the purpose of talking about cars and such. Its not exactly censorship as someone stating, say, political opinions shouldnt really be doing so on a forum about car repair. You dont go to a Christian church to preach about Islam and you dont go a Mcdonalds to order a Whopper. Because all of what I mentioned are owned by private companies/people, and made for a specific purpose. Regardless, you have the right to do so because you own the website.
Yes, that does mean youtube, as a private company, has the right to censor people with wrong think. But the problem isnt "Youtube shouldnt be allowed to censor people" the problem is "It isnt ethical to censor people with "wrong" opinions, especially on a platform so large and wildly used".

tl;dr the discussion is about the morality of censorship and not private company's rights to enforce their own rules. Private businesses have a right to do what they wish with their own property, but it doesnt make it any less unethical and wrong to censor someone on a platform advertised as platform to share ideas and opinions.

@Greedy Gamer
>censorship can work
let me guess, you live in a first world country? Probably america? And... your somewhere around upper middle class to upper class? right? Am I wrong?

@Greedy Gamer "So we shouldn't have censorship and let youtube become a hell space full of porn, gore, and racism?" <br>Yes

@Greedy Gamer "So we shouldn't have censorship and let youtube become a hell space full of porn, gore, and racism?"
Yes

@Greedy Gamer well then it'd be pretty cut and dry then wouldn't it, lol. Listen, perhaps the reason I didn't articulate on my statement is because it's pretty damn controversial to begin with. But I don't see any reason to shield everyone's eyes from what's going on with people in the long run. Even if that means exposing younger kids. Kids in other countries see far worse than american kids on a day to day basis :)

@Augmentate I agree, but some form of censorship is needed. TOS and Community Guidelines may have flaws, but they exist for a reason.

@StoneTheMason so if you start a forum for discussions on car repair, it’s completely fine if people come there and start talking about “slaughtering the inferior people” or something?

@Greedy Gamer you only named the bad things. I don't agree with censorship in general. And I think the ideal would include that yes.

@Greedy Gamer thats not the point. of course there shouldn't be porn on youtube, but demonetizing ppl's videos for saying the fuck word is stupid.

@StoneTheMason so we shouldn’t have censorship, and just let YouTube become a lawless hell space full of porn, gore and racism?

Youtube spambot in a nutshell. All those convincing arguments automatically delered for saying nono words...

some youtubers should really come together and decide on a universal list of code words to bypass it, it would make me happy to see the ghouls who decide this shit get completely circumvented

Censorship can work, but not when it’s poorly automated and on such a huge platform like this.


So glad they reversed their actions! That video was genuinely the best video from you I've ever watched, and also one of the best videos I've ever viewed on this platform. Keep up the great work Emp!


Hey man, I just wanna say that I love your videos. your are genuinely my favorite youtuber. From what I have learned, youtube sucks when it comes to the relationships with the creators on the platform. Sorry this shit keeps happening to you. Maybe one day, youtube will either change their bullcrap policy or another platform like youtube will rise to the top with less strict reasons for taking down videos. Good luck with your channel, and I wish you the best Emp.


Looked at The Thing on youtube once it was reinstated, and every video was age restricted, even the reviews. John Carpenter made a movie so terrifying, that yt is afraid on all fronts to show it.


Hey, remember in 2013 where everyone used to monetize edgy videos that we made for adults around our age without getting screwed over until 2017?

Man, if only we can go back to those days where we were able to monetize adult content for our adult audience without having Youtube demonetize us for stuff like that.

And look now, they put advert on non monetized videos. What? Why they didn't make the standard back to 2013?


When you showed AIDS being one of the words that could result in an auto take down YouTube had a pop up show up that said “This information may not be supported” and I had to press Ok to get it to go away. I’ve literally never seen that before.


It's times like these where I'm grateful YouTube is finally getting sued again.


EmpLemon don't be discouraged, your Thing video was one of the best analysis of this film there is. Thank you for making that and for all of your work.


What you have to remember is that the video was reviewed by a human, so what one person might seem as needing to be age restricted, another could see fine


That was a bad ass video...I think they pulled it because of the term "isolation" & they automatically bot-assumed it was about quarantine.

@Ivan Mixo it's not so much that it's a bad word but YT (and just about all of the other big social media platformers) have this obsession with "verified information only" as if they know the truths about any given situation or event. My theory is that certain channels that have maybe a critical or skeptical perspective, maybe not even related to Covid, but, say for example, EmpLemon's video about the red headed guy that "discovered the wormhole in YT that leads to software CP" is kind of an edgy subject, therefore YT removes the benefit of the doubt typically afforded content creators & throws their content on the chopping block based solely on hot button words, like "Isolation". In other words, they don't look at the videos as a whole or check context, or even friggin subject matter at all, the bot catches a word, removes the video & chop. They don't have to worry about it. Videos that don't violate TOS slip through the cracks & get deleted, but they don't care because the broader net takes down anything approaching the subjects they want creators to avoid. It's complicated. Hopefully this makes sense.

It's definitelly because of the parallels for the coof.

@Egg T I'm pretty sure someone did that and it didn't end well.

@Stewtrooper doesn't seem like, just tell the creator what is wrong with the video. Unless they're trying to suppress certain topics, than they don't know what they're doing, otherwise they're doing a great job

yet these “news” organizations can discuss it because they give youtube the big bucks

Is quarantine really a bad word? I mean kids probably hear it every single day at school or hear their parents talk about it. It's kind of stupid to overprotect kids to this extent.

The next YouTube rewind should be us raiding YouTube HQ

@Bacony Cakes The reverse engineering of the Darkspore server is making good progress by the way.

@Egg T Finally, someone else with the idea of a R E V O L U T I O N
#RaidYouTube [the following content has been blocked]

Isiolation is not only about the quarantine it's about mental probel like  game end which is words and topic that for some reason....YT is really allergic about it.

Do you really trust youtube to be that ignorant. They know what they're doing

@Egg T After we raid EA and steal Spore 2005 and Darkspore.


I remember watching your video almost a decade ago and it really pains me to see YouTube treating a long time creator like you this way.


YouTube is better with you in it, Emp. Love your work <3


I’m very, very glad that I saw the public version. I must say... it was amazing!!


"Same conversation three years later"

No wonder I love this channel so much.


This goes to prove that <b>YouTube is still in a downward spiral</b>

This goes to prove that *YouTube is still in a downward spiral*

@Picky Physics Student why is it that no one tried to copy youtube? Why are there thousands of different pornsites and pirate streaming sites but no regular youtube clones?

@Picky Physics Student <br>i think eventually we will have  to report them  to the government

@Picky Physics Student
i think eventually we will have  to report them  to the government

There isn't much further which it can spiral downwards. They're just rotating about at the centre of the Earth, at this point. YT has such a massive <b>massive</b> monopoly on video streaming sights that they can just do whatever, knowing that creators have nowhere else to go.

There isn't much further which it can spiral downwards. They're just rotating about at the centre of the Earth, at this point. YT has such a massive *massive* monopoly on video streaming sights that they can just do whatever, knowing that creators have nowhere else to go.


Hope you will push through the issue Emp. I - we - love your videos. They are really excellent.


YouTube be really gettin comfortable with these 2 unskippable ads. It’s getting really annoying


I remember watching the video as soon as it popped i to my inbox and loving it. Nothing seemed off about it, the amount of the movie shown wasnt excessive, and i had a great time. Around 3 hours later when i went to show it to a friend, it showed up as removed by youtube. The idea that it was removed for being graphic is still bewildering considering how much content on youtube i can find depicting the same imagery. The downward spiral never ends.


Susan: "I'll teach them to deny the hollow cost"<br>Susan: bans all mention of the actual term

Susan: "I'll teach them to deny the hollow cost"
Susan: bans all mention of the actual term


"Same conversation 3 years later."<br>YouTube doesn't change.

"Same conversation 3 years later."
YouTube doesn't change.

@Jimmy John Joe Jr. it's something but before you could scroll down the recommended videos forever it didn't do much

@coolname lotsanumbers at least the comments are better I guess...?

I thought that was a reference to STAR_ then remembered this is Emp and not FUNKe(They sound alike IMO)

@SirClownsALot Oh lord they removed that too? Its like they don't want people to use/enjoy this platform! LOL

@Spearra I miss the playlist sort from new to old and old to new options

@Spearra me too I hate auto play so damn much

@coolname lotsanumbers I miss the playlist plus button ever since they replaced it with the autoplay button. I used the former frequently :/

except when it redesigns the mobile version to make it suck more

<b>ominous music</b> Youtube...Youtube never changes...

*ominous music* Youtube...Youtube never changes...


This platform shows no bounds in fairness for all creators...

Oh that’s right. For ‘some’ creators.


"Autobot McTakedown" is my new name for the algorithm honestly


Hey Emp<br>Been a sub for about a year now, LOVING your recent documentary-style uploads. Pls don't disappear for 3 months again, luv u bb

Hey Emp
Been a sub for about a year now, LOVING your recent documentary-style uploads. Pls don't disappear for 3 months again, luv u bb

Also hoping you have another "never ever" video waiting in the wings. Those are by far my fave.


Who knew 3 year's later we're still talking about the same issues and more.


About a month ago, I got recommended a video by YouTube called “Deer vs Plane” in which a deer pretty much gets crushed and eviscerated instantly, even though that is something I wish I had never seen as it is a videoed death.
The Thing is a movie I adore and I find myself searching for analysis videos about it a few times a year. It’s something I want to see and I do not find issue with it’s gore because it is not real.
YouTube, you fucking suck.


The true horror here is that apparently emp can upload two videos about the thing without me being notified about either of them. Truly this is a cold, dark, loveless world.


I really have huge respect for you. Good luck.


2:37 wait, the downward spiral is actually just mario 64's infinite staircase played backwards? Holy shit.


"I fear no man but THE THING, it scares me" - YouTube

@Generic Gaming Channel everyone is afraid of  susan wabbajak

@tuxkat the thing itself is scared of youtube? Dayum

"I ain't talking about that freak, shes isn't here is she?"


I'm glad you aren't gonna change anything for Youtube. I love your content and the video on Stanislav Petrov is my absolute favorite from you. Can't imagine what it'd be like and how much worse it'd be if you had been scared of getting in trouble with Youtube


I remember pausing the video to go for a walk and seeing that I couldn't watch it on my pc and that the video was removed. Still got to watch it. Thanks YouTube.


When I think about good YouTube videos, EmpLemon is the first name that comes to my mind.


Damn, that was a great video too. Glad I got a chance to watch it. Good luck bro, and hopefully it goes back up. And to answer your question, no, your not allowed to talk about certain things unless you are on an approved list. I remember people getting hit for reporting on a mass shooting a few years ago, and Jimmy "please laugh" Kimmel was doing a bit about it, and that wasn't a problem.


Emp, your vids are fantastic and so are you. I will never forget to watch them even if youtube forgets to show em to me. I'll remember to unsubscribe.


Remember the good old days when you could easily find and watch whacky conspiracy theories and pretty much whatever else you wanted to see? Now everything is controlled and censored 😭


Thank god I watched the video as soon as it went up. It was pretty good, and I'm glad you made a video on such a masterpiece film of its time. If I may be so daring, I would say the possible reason Youtube took the video down was because of the scene where MacReady checks on Blair in the tool shed, where there's a noose dangling in the shot. It wouldn't be very farfetched to say that Youtube's algorithm assumed that the noose was going to be <i>used</i> , instead of just being a prop put there to compliment the scene.

Thank god I watched the video as soon as it went up. It was pretty good, and I'm glad you made a video on such a masterpiece film of its time. If I may be so daring, I would say the possible reason Youtube took the video down was because of the scene where MacReady checks on Blair in the tool shed, where there's a noose dangling in the shot. It wouldn't be very farfetched to say that Youtube's algorithm assumed that the noose was going to be _used_ , instead of just being a prop put there to compliment the scene.


I'm glad I got to watch the video almost as soon as it was uploaded. it was a fantastic video, and i was sad to see it taken down.

but also glad it was put back where it should be.


YouTube: You broke the community guidelines!
Content creator's: what are the community guidelines?!?!
YouTube: what ever we feel like

@TomeOfBattle You can't get much than neoliberalism. It's all the worst aspects of capitalism and communism combined.

@Naj Adamu My cat could be a better Team YouTube.

@Bonnie Bon Gacha That's insulting to chimpanzees, who would actually be more competent than whatever mouthbreathers are running Team YouTube.

it's a neoliberal dictatorship.   Take the red pill.

YouTube’s systems are ran by chimpanzees being paid 5 apples an hour.


"One person fucked up so now you all suffer"<br>This is the ideology that the world follows. And the rich wouldn't want it any other way

"One person fucked up so now you all suffer"
This is the ideology that the world follows. And the rich wouldn't want it any other way


i absolutely loved the video, really great analysis
shame that youtube hates you
i wonder if you uploaded the video to an entirely different channel if it would create the same response


I'm getting genuinely sick and tired of Susan Wojak's incompetence and the overall horse crap Google insists on encouraging. Thanks for the heads up, Emp, and good luck with your next upload!


Your analysis of The Thing was one of the best I've seen and it's a shame YouTube is such a huge fucking mess. Just know your hard work is appreciated and I will be showing your vid to my friends.


youtube "you can't make videos for kids"<br>also youtube" Also you can't use mature themes"

youtube "you can't make videos for kids"
also youtube" Also you can't use mature themes"

@Are You Aware That You Are Reading This Comment? WAI- [realizes in techno]

@Amphibians RiseUp Pretty sure it’s not just “mUriCa” tho, considering Utube is multi-national, and Susan’s a Jew.

@Amphibians RiseUp You are right. Also why does everybody always assume somebody is going to get pissy whenever another person expresses an opinion? I do not get that either.

@Amphibians RiseUp Some teens are like that, not all of them tho. Like you have a lot of teens that are immature but try to get into mature media to seem more "cool" or whatever, thus being "edgy".

Of course, now that I think about it you could argue that teens who don't want to come off as "older" and stick to media for kids/teens are less mature due to not wanting to grow up.

As for their tolerance towards mature stuff, it depends. Like yeah they are more tolerant than a kid but I'm sure its not to the extent of an adult.

I guess my view on it is that while a teen is way more independant than a kid, that doesn't mean they are an adult yet. They shouldn't get into edgy stuff just cause, it should be done with a sense of purpose and genuine interest in understanding the realities of an adult world that they've yet to be responsible for. Like yeah a parent should loosen up on what their kids watch when they are a teen, but they shouldn't all of a sudden switch to "Yolo watch whatever you want! Who cares!"

TL;DR You are technically right on all of this, but I think the context and nuance of the situation take priority over "teens are adults but younger" when its really the other way around...

...that I feel is what tends to get lost whenever the subject of raising kids gets discussed/questioned.

@Alienrun Your acting like you’ve never seen or been around a teenager. Most teens want to be “older” A.K.A, cooler, so of course they might wanna watch more R rated films or M rated games. Every teenager I have met in Middle School or High School can handle that kind of stuff. Your forgetting how tolerant teens are to these kinds of things. Obviously they’re not “mature” but they’re not sensitive to movies, tv shows, or games with adult themes

@Amphibians RiseUp Probably because there exists a multiple maturity levels that are in between "heavily mature" and "fucking preschoolers"...AKA teenagers...

idk just a thought...

Also YouTube: Dank memes containing sexual references
Multiplayer is not available for videos made for kids

Also YouTube: *Dank memes containing sexual references*
Multiplayer is not available for videos made for kids

It's a balancing act... On a piece of razor wire...

@RubbaTiti
I legitimately want that game to die. It got stale in 2015 after it was run into the ground for over a year straight. I was fine with it at first, maybe I even liked it, but I genuinely can't stand it anymore.

Regardless, I see what you mean.

@RubbaTiti the edgiest thing monitizable on YT

I'm pretty sure Undertale is the edgiest thing at this point


"Nobody trusts anybody now.... and we're all very tired." - Youtube


Emp you are one of my favorite entertainers. Please don't put yourself in a position where YouTube is your only outlet. This place is getting more and more capricious and censorious by the week.


YouTube has never reached this deep of a DOWNWARD SPIRAL before


Emp, you should do new/revised/updated version of ‘Youtube has been on a Downward Spiral”. The debate on section 230 has been fascinating and it’s be cool to hear your take on it


I spent all day yesterday on YouTube. Watched newrly every video in my subscription feed but it wasn't until TODAY that your The Thing analysis came up in my feed.
DESPITE having all notifications on for this channel and generally watching your great content the moment it comes out.

Thanks YouTube, very cool.


Commenting just to stick it to YouTube and get this video recommending, this mistreatment of your hard work and engaging reviews is so utterly unjust.


If you haven't you should look into other platforms to upload your videos to. That way if the worst does happen and Youtube removes your content there's still somewhere we can find them. It will also strengthen Youtube's competition and if enough people do that, then maybe we can force Youtube to change.


I wonder when YouTube will ban the ability to have sponsorships just to screw over YouTubers even more

@Isaac Lim Only in this case though. The only thing I want to see broadly accelerated is technology. Fuck me up fam, cyberdong 2077

They arent, theres literally an option to declare your video as having a sponsor for a reason, youtube knows its a thing ppl di

@WarmPotato Having that is gonna be great actually. The people on youtube as in the youtubers are afraid of change. The people managing youtube think they can just fuck up always and never have anything bad happen, why, because they have a monopoly, practically, over video sharing. They'll accidentally make youtube unsurvivable for not only small , but also medium ish, 500-750k subs content creators, which'll turn youtube into another T.V situation, till there's another site or invention that's the 'next youtube'. and that process will and has happened always. People bored of constant stream of same old content, weird folk make a niche, nerdy people get inspired and improve the niche thing by themselves, it gets popular, they want quick cash and fail to maintain customer care over time, they fuck up, only some content remains due to a plethora of reasons, people get bored of same old content etc.


We really need to give props to this man for not dumbing down content for YouTube and actually caring about what he talks about


Emplemon: Does 12+ videos where he in part or in full warns viewers and friends about uploading content like this. Or at least laments that YouTube is so sensitive about it.

Also Emplemon: What, how could this happen? No one could have seen this coming!


"i'll take what I can get"
this is why they keep getting away with bull
you wont leave. and they don't care


YT ToS: *exists*
YT Creators: What are the rules?
YT: YOUVE VIOLATED THE TERMS OF SERVICE

YT ToS: **exists**
YT Creators: What are the rules?
YT: YOUVE VIOLATED THE TERMS OF SERVICE


“YouTube has been on a downward spiral” should be a historic documentary, but it’s still relevant today.
W H Y

“YouTube has been on a downward spiral” should be a historic documentary, but it’s still relevant today.
*W* *H* *Y*


There needs to be a consolidated effort to support some sort of union, or to have a mass of creators leave the site, pulling audiences with them. The problem now is there is no competition.


This video speaks to me. YouTube really needs to step their game up before they get dethroned.


I think it's pretty safe to Say that the analogy between the pandemic we're living and the film might be one of the factors.


This CLASS of opaque and inconsistent enforcement should met with some kind of major ACTION. Use civil LAW in a way that SUITs the situation.


I’ve learned my lesson to no longer wait to watch emps vids anymore

"Oh, an emplemon video. Well, its 3 hours old, but I guess it can wait while I catch up on other channels."
gets removed for content violation

"Oh, an emplemon video. Well, its 3 hours old, but I guess it can wait while I catch up on other channels."
*gets removed for content violation*

i finished watching it a while ago it's actually very good

at least with the thing vid he put 2 links. one to the age restricted version and another to a different website where he put the same video as a get around

Same. Qued it up for Halloween, RIP I guess.

i feel sad for still not watching his latest video


I just can’t stand how they NEVER communicate any reasons. Like wouldn’t you want to SHOW the creator what they did wrong so that they know not to make the same mistake in the future?

@AdamofBlastWorks how did I not get that reference??? Ughhhhh.

That’s a great depiction of what they are doing though. Well done!

@AdamofBlastWorks i respect your opinion sir

Probably because YouTube is very vague about their rules on purpose, so it doesn’t seem like they’re contradicting themselves with how they enforce rules. I’m sure laziness also plays into it somewhere.


YouTube's dealings with creators has all the unpredictable malice of an abusive relationship.


i love you emp keep telling losers to unsub and do your own thing


Just wanted to say that it appears Armchair Historian is still making content, and the time he quit was September of 2019.

Great vid, emp! Sorry youtube canned your hard work :/


Youtube: Demonetizes Emp.
Emp "Reverse uno" - Sponsors video*
Youtube: "No u"  - takes video down and age restricts it later*.


"Whoever controls the past, controls the future"


I caught the video on the 1st reupload. It was a great video my man.  I hope it works out and a people get to see it!


Mr. Lemon,

If ever become rich, I pledge a sack of money to this channel, no lie, hand on heart. I hope that day comes. Keep going

Regards,
a YouTube user


I think the problem youtube has with creators is our ability to upload, wont be long until that features reserved for legacy news only


I mean, if Hartvigen can lose his channel with absolutely no warning and no human intervention until they get dozens of mentions on Twitter, then sadly anything is possible...

@noob2243 Oh I member mumkey’s demise too, and Leafy also got the shaft.

...and in the meantime, I'm havin' Mumkey flashbacks from 2 years ago over here


"We cant tell you the rules, then you might follow them wrong" the word you are looking for susan is. Exploit.


"I get more and more paranoid about what I can and can't talk about"<br>Sounds like you're starting to recognize what Political Correctness is about.

"I get more and more paranoid about what I can and can't talk about"
Sounds like you're starting to recognize what Political Correctness is about.


I think YouTube is having a really hard time with what videos to remove or not with violence in it.


Thanks for showing whats happening bts. Sharing consciousness will hopefully help


There will never ever be another platform like YouTube


Glad to know your still going, thought you were going to quit half way through. Respect.


I know that it doesn't help your situation right now, but I really enjoyed your "The Thing" video. I thought it was really well thought out and well written.


Don’t forget your videos are fucking great bro doesn’t matter what YouTube pulls continue doing what you want


"Covid has taken more lives this year than any other year" - Joe Biden...In an ad that played before this video.

I'll See Ya' on the Dark Side of the Moon

I mean, I don't think it's taken lives in any other year

Because it didn't exist.

Ironic that we get punished if we mentioned anything related to Tragedies or politics, but politicians, and celebrities can shove their BS down our throats and YouTube let’s them off the hook.

@Are You Aware That You Are Reading This Comment? I guess I was reading it literally. There have been more strains of Covid. Covid-19 got out in 2020. Covid-15 did not. Snopes would say Biden is right based on that. It's very disingenuous.

@Generic Gaming Channel Because we all have no life. :)

@Kyle Hyde Yes, but actually no. Most of the deaths are completely non-Covid related lmao

@aAáÁAA i do have friends who share the same views, it's just really hard to introduce yourself as a dem to new people without immediately being looked at like a psychopath, so i usually refrain from stating my stances. Also, i genuinely never knew about the horseshoe theory before, so that just goes to show how new i am to all this.

@a regular person ow that sucks. you should be able to be proud of who you are. do you have friends who share your political views? i imagine that'd make it easier to commit to it.
as for myself i'm not even sure what side of politics i prefer yet. i'm definitely very nihilistic, (which is equal to saying i'm too lazy and dumb to learn about politics and figure out which side to pick) and a lot of times i feel like i lean towards anarchy more than authority.
dems are centrists btw, and what you said about either side being the same is exactly what Horseshoe Centrism is.. just saying.
at least that's what i picked up from Jreg's videos. i only started caring about politics because of memes and Jreg's sarcasm.
i live on sarcasm, but it's a vegetative state. i should quit..

for real? I use adblock so I won't have seen it, but if that's true it's the funniest thing I've heard all week, lmao..

@aAáÁAA mate, i'm a dem, but i don't like calling myself that because of the stigma surrounding them

@a regular person found the Horseshoe Centrist!<br>lol jk

@a regular person found the Horseshoe Centrist!
lol jk

@agasttya dixit I sure hope so, it’s better than a fascist

@a regular person Its alright, another commenter answered my question about the zombie uprising 😆 thank you anyway!

@Chris Spence yes it did, it did in 2019 that's where the 19 in covid 19 comes from.

@Majima Nowheremight give it a watch next time it comes by

Just be grateful that emp got ads on this video somehow. I got an ad too and proceeded to not skip it

@Generic Gaming Channel Biden 2000<br>Together we can beat George Bush

@Generic Gaming Channel Biden 2000
Together we can beat George Bush

@a regular person That ad was a joke, bunch of Biden clips arranged in the style of a horror movie trailer. It's pretty funny, actually.

@a regular person Yeah, that's calling Biden's followers mindless drones.

R/technicallythetruth, I mean, it hasn't existed any other year. 😂

The main cause of death for everyone, being born, everyone who is born dies, being born is the leading cause of death

@Anthony banuelos "I'm Joe Biden,and I forgot this message"

@Generic Gaming Channel Im joe bidens husband- joe biden 2020

The only thing Covid has taught me is that I actually fucking miss the water fountains in Wal-Mart.

Well to be fair it did start last year in china.

@Light Sage i saw a trump ad on my home page that literally said something about a zombie uprising

Why did I waste 5 minutes of my life typing that

@Kyle Hyde ACKSHTUALLY CUVED IZSH A TYPE UF FLOO, AND TEH YELLEW FEVESH IZSH ASHLO A FLOO! AND SHO IZSH DUH BLOOCK PLAGUE

Well... well yeah. Can't wait for the "ACHTUALLYYYY..." Snopes article.

I can't even think of anything funnier to say.......<br> Um,.....uh.........2020 is the first year this year?

I can't even think of anything funnier to say.......
 Um,.....uh.........2020 is the first year this year?


I saw your THE THING video and thought it was great. Didn't notice any editing problems and was your classic great story telling.


EMP. YOU'RE THE BEST. NEVER STOP.<br>For real tho, you're that fire shit brother you deserve the world

EMP. YOU'RE THE BEST. NEVER STOP.
For real tho, you're that fire shit brother you deserve the world


I love hearing about YouTuber's complaining about youtube. gives me a Washington monument. moaning like the platform is some sort of democracy, when in reality its a dictatorship. keep it up bro.


It is so frustrating seeing creators I like, like yourself, shackled by this ancient dinosaur of a platform stumbling around destroying everything it touches like a Godzilla on a three day bender. But also major props to you for not backing down and drawing your line in the sand. It really makes me respect you as a creator more than I already did. Cheers Emp and Happy Halloween. I also hope you can continue preaching the word of shaved balls to the masses as well :V


Oh boy do I love clear and understandable guidelines! Oh boy do I wish we HAD some!


Im glad I caught this video  before it was taken down.  Sucks this happened to you, it was really good


What’s messed up is that you earned all the subscribers that you have and all the views that you get should reflect positively on your channel


0:48 You're not a true content creator if you dont have a file called fix_fix_fix_redo_FINAL_FINAL.mp4


I love that i spend the days browsing my subscription tab and I still miss all the videos  I'd actually like to see...


I agree with the theory about "sensitive subject matter." You uploaded a topical video during a time when big tech is going to greater lengths than ever to censor anything that doesn't match their narrative. We can all hope that, after a certain date, this ridiculous censorship will either willingly end or be forced to stand down. But who knows at this point?


Apparently you can't just say the word pandemic in a video and expect it to be fine


You’re a special creator dude. Sorry you’re having to deal with this BS. About to watch your Thing video after this.


True fear is getting in trouble and hearing your mom say, "wait till your father gets here."


As the saying goes, "True tyranny is when the rules are entirely unclear and the punishments, for breaking said rules, are dire". Anyone in any situation like this should just leave ASAP, if able.


Emp continues to be a good guy. Even feels bad Kino inadvertently got shafted by this.


In five years there will be no good content left on YouTube, just kids videos and whatever the next mindless trend it. Get ready for your favorite YouTuber to be banned for TOS violations. Then get ready for what happens in 10 years - they've been scrubbed from the masses' memories.


I did a video recently that used footage from the thing, and while looking around for different clips I noticed some of them are consistently age restricted I.E: the defib scene


I am just now seeing this. Sorry Emp, this kind of stuff has got to be frustrating. I'm gonna do what I can to support you on Patreon, though I apologize in advance if it's not a lot.


4:38 Ahh yes. One of my biggest pet peeves on, not just Youtube, but with people in general....

..... not being specific enough about a thing, only to get mad at you for for not understanding it.

4:38 Ahh yes. One of my biggest pet peeves on, not just Youtube, but with people in general....

..... *not being specific enough about a thing, only to get mad at you for for not understanding it.*

"Laws/Rules Of Convenience". A favorite tool of small-scale governments and capitalist arbiters everywhere against anyone who might seek to probe the edges of the rules for any reason they don't approve of. The "mad" is largely performative, in a case like YouTube's; they're usually only too glad to re-assert their control by arbitrarily lashing out at an "offender" now and then. It keeps others wondering and worrying.


As time moves on people will have to watch what they say down to a t, and everything on the platform will feel like it's gone through the liberal glazing machine or wrapped in plastic.

It'll just be the "you can only do what simon says until simon changes his mind at a moments notice." youll never really know where you are with them and thats how they want it.


Now this is a terrifying Halloween tale if I've ever seen one


Guys the video is not “safe enough” for us, if we watch it our devices will literally burst into flames... Thanks Susan you’ve saved so many lives from these dangerous videos...


creators on Youtube: make non-kid-friendly videos, on the main platform which isn't for kids
Youtube: Wait, thats illegal

creators on Youtube: *make non-kid-friendly videos, on the main platform which isn't for kids*
Youtube: Wait, thats illegal


Most incompetent company out there. So sorry this happened, Emp.


Tbh that vid was one your best! Im sorry The Thing got your vid, but i hope you continue to make good vids like it, cuz your channel is legit one of the best on here that keeps me on here.


What really activates my almonds is that Emp's "The Thing" video wasn't even controversial or talked about anything that could even be CONSIDERED as such. It was akin to when videogamedunkey covered The Shining; just somebody passionate and interested about a classic film. Such utter nonsense.

My best guess for the takedown was Emp making the (possibly accidental) implication through his editing that Trump was comparable to Macready, using Trump's "fire and fury" comment right after saying men like Macready have "no choice but to pick the least terrible option". The "fire and fury" Trump clip is followed by a shot of Macready shooting literal flames at the Thing, and later a brief mention of the Cold War doctrine of mutually assured destruction accompanied with a shot of Macready blowing up the Antarctic facility, killing himself and the monster. A YT reviewer might see this and make the (likely wrong) assumption that Emp endorses Trump's stated willingness to exchange nukes with the DPRK, despite the brief mention of Emp's other video discussing that time a nuclear exchange was narrowly avoided.


I watched the original video as soon as I got the notification [The first upload]. I came back later to rewatch it and was going to comment on the video about how well it was made but noticed the comments weren't working [probably because you unlisted it] so I reloaded the tab only to get a grey "Age-Restriction" cover on the video I watched literally 1 hour ago. I've watched almost all your videos multiple times because I love how you edit videos and go in-depth with so much information. Honestly, why does YT do the things it does when it's meant to be a public forum. Keep up the great work Emp.


Lol, for real. It's difficult to know what even violates some guidelines. I've consistently been kicked out of youtubes partner program, despite my content being transformative in nature.

It's not a fair usage issue, rather YouTube just decided "haha nope, we don't like you."

And of course, their support team says you're not allowed to use other content at all. So, does that include music and green screen effects too? They completely contradict what their FAQ page says. It's all so frustrating that it really makes me want to leave to another platform...