Bruh my mans been away for almost as long as coryxkenshin u algs?


i don't see the date bc it doesn't shows up to mh but most importly IT IS 2019 is this vid  oLd XD lol joking i don't hav to know it bRUh


Im Cassiopeia😂

Im using my moms account ok


what is gusti the great i konw  she/he the one who stole gusti bell and banished yeah yeah what is she/he we only ever the silhouette of a pony  who said it ever a pony not ever physical being so what is it?????????


Our world seems like you’re not a changling I mean reformed changling


Ok, am I the only one that knows that's f*cking Discord?


Are u ok because you been gone for a longggggggggg timeeeeeeeee


did u even wach? discord prtended to be grogard DUH


did u even watch that vid growgar is discord


But are you not going to make a Video about the finali the end of the end and the last problem?<br>Please and your ronge

But are you not going to make a Video about the finali the end of the end and the last problem?
Please and your ronge


If you look like closer doesn’t just that I don’t use emoji if I can find it and show it to you


But isn't, grogar in season 9 just discord


I've been watching MLP since Generation 3, and I'm sad that Generation 4 is coming to an end, however, I doubt that'll stop wonderful content creators from continuing to make content long after Gen. 4 comes to a close. There's still so much to add to this already beloved story.


I’d always imagined that the other stars were the spirits of the four other alicorns, even though two of them didn’t exist yet. To me it was the way to reunite the (future) alicorns and to start Twilight’s journey to being an alicorn in the first place


Despite the obvious notion that none of this is intentional, I like the theory. It fits well with the lore, and puts Cozy's magic drain in an unexpectedly crucial position. Haven't watched the finale yet, but I hope it's explained why Grogar appeared the moment he did.


So now let's suppose this is true and Nightmare Moon and Luna are the same entity, not a disembodied spirit possessing a body like in the comics. Could Grogar claim to have done Luna a favor and banish her back?


I love you and your videos! You always make complete sense.


If all that is true, then that would explain SO SO much about how and why all those ancient villains (Nightmare Moon, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, and Tirek) came back after more than 1000 years, when originally they were meant to be imprisoned in all those places for eternity.


Have you ever figured out what truly happened to Aj's parents?  I would love to hear what you think about it


Theory for finale - In the summer sun cebration episode, at the end, Cozy glow talked about how easy it was to make unicorns, Pegasi, and earth ponies go against each other. I’m imagining them doing the same thing, but on a larger scale. Maybe even turning the main six against each other! It will nice, the beginning of equestria, tension between the races, happening at the last episode. IDK I just thought that when I saw the scene.


The final episode needs to be looked into further as there are so many questions rising from it and its de-bunked your theory of an Alicorn civilisation with how after becoming the ruler of equestria she gets her flowie hair


It makes sense that grogar was set free because of cozy glow, but in episode 26, we find that discord was Grogar the whole time, therefore, grogar could still be trapped in the stars


Guys, only the Grogar in Season 9 was Discord in disguise. From all the legends about him, the existence of the bell, and "Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow now have all of the real Grogar's magic", we know that there <i>was</i> a real Grogar once that we just never get to see (presumably still locked away / banished / greatly weakened somewhere), which means this theory is still a possibility.

Guys, only the Grogar in Season 9 was Discord in disguise. From all the legends about him, the existence of the bell, and "Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow now have all of the real Grogar's magic", we know that there _was_ a real Grogar once that we just never get to see (presumably still locked away / banished / greatly weakened somewhere), which means this theory is still a possibility.


Despite the final just remember grogar might still have been the one who freed nightmare moon


2:07 I like how they made that reference to the Generation 1 Gusty. She was my fave and i have a vintage doll of her! <3


Hey there's one thing you forgot if he was a constellation and still technically banished until cozy glows reign then he should not be able to move in the freaking sky that makes no sense at all! Love this theory thou


My question isn't related to this video much, but there is one thing I want to know...
During the episode of School Raze Part 2, Pinkie Pie got some magic when the young six defeated Cozy Glow... Any ideas why? (I'm asking you why cause your theories are more...creative I guess, but if you don't have time or something, I understand)
Anyway the question is: 'Does Pinkie Pie have magic?'


when i see a lot of theses ideas go about i always look back to every epp and do a bit of investigating myself and give my input on it. but tbh... out of all i watched that every brony has done.... i ...am....STUMPED for once on how to add my own 2 bits cause it really make scene. theres no other way to really add my 2 bits to this at all. cause it just really does make sence.

Gusty the grate takes Grogar bell witch ends his rain in g1-g2 during witch that grogar makes his very first showing. and by taking his bell he he vanishes along with his "city" at the time. but before it is fully gone he escapes and thats when Gusty goes and sends him to the stars with her unicorn warriors.

during this time Gusty herself disappears without a word. (since it was never told HOW she disappears to start with she just ups and POOFS) after banishing him. but not before she hides the bell on Mount Everhoof. and creating a super strong and powerful wind to keep the bell safe and so that Grogar could never get his hooves on it ever again.

once up there he had to watch as ancient Equestria changes over the many many years to the point Tia and Luna enter the stage and take over. and during that time as we know the story of the two sisters goes Tia banishes Luna to the moon where Grogar ends up with a new room mate.

then after NM 1000 year banishment ends he aids her escape. and then he had to watch every bad guys down fall over n over and OVER again. till Cozy HERSELF ends up freeing him without knowing it as Dr. Wolf stated, in school raze with the 6 magical items witch drained all of Equestria's magic almost giving him his window of opportunity to make his escape but not giving him a chance to find his bell in time before the young six stopped cozy glow and returning all of Equestrian magic back.

soooooooooooo yeaaaah....

for once i CAN NOT argue with this logic AT ALL. and there for, for once my Brony Brother you have STUMPED me with Dr. Wolf's help and thats SAYING a lot my Brony Brother since no other brony has with there many logics they have here or there. so KUDOS to you Brony Nation. KUDOS to you!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ i am one very Impressed Wolf myself. so thank you Brony for making my day on this ❤❤❤❤❤ and for being the firs EVER Brony out there to stump me ❤❤❤❤❤

bro hoof for life /) ❤❤❤❤❤


I'd have to go back and watch again, but I think you're right. Ares was gone (i think) after Grogar was revealed.


it just bothers me, that if he was turned into the Aries constellation, and then broke free, does that mean.. there is no more constellation for Aries? Or was he simply Inside of it, similar to nightmare moon being IN the moon, but not the moon itself?


Great theory but 1 floor<br>when cozy glow nearly sucked out all the magic did the wind magic stop if you could figure that out then all can be solved

Great theory but 1 floor
when cozy glow nearly sucked out all the magic did the wind magic stop if you could figure that out then all can be solved


Should’ve waited till the end of the season
Discord was actually pretending to be Grogar when he was bonding the villains together
He was doing it as a joke, thinking it was funny, until they managed to steal his magic and actually put Equestria in danger
So yeah, Grogar is still a constellation


Alright so after watching the Finale in English it turns out there is still a real Grogar and Tirek has a badass father! 👀


Alternative idea: the stars of mlp are God like sprites that watch over the world and can see far into the future.
while nightmare moon is banished they see her future self and decide to free her and in doing so they become the catalyst for all events in the story. And maybe the reason why it took so long was because:

A. Their to removed from creature kind that their actions take a while to affect equestria or

B. They where waiting for the day Celestia would send twilight to ponyville to set their larger plan into motion


Heyyy not a new visitor or anything I’ve been a fan since I was little (6,7) and I just found your channel and I want to say thanks for opening me up to the theory community and being most of my childhood💞


Grogar was actually discord’s for the final but who knows maybe the original grogar summoned the other evil three


It could be true in season1it said the stars would aid in her escape


Spoiler alert:

So is thebronynotion correct? (Before he started debunking himself nearer to the middle of the vid) cuz now we know that it wasnt actually grogar that 'made his return' but rather it was discord.


My theory base on the season 9 i think discord is grogar just look how he acts as grogar a whole new persona not silly or any resemblance of discord but was him. The fact that discord was around for a long time and when his magic was stolen by grogars bell no one could control his magic. Stated in the show no one can control choas magic but why maybe discord/grogars magic was corrupted by the bell he was defeated with long ago to be honest if choas magic is the most difficult magic to use or control discord/grogar would not have been able to use his now corrupted magic for who knows how long up till the point were he learned how to control it and use a portion of its full power only to be stopped by the elements. Note through out the series discord tends to make loveable creatures into monster like when he turned beavers into crazed savages when he was becoming flutter shys friend then again he can turn anything into a monster. Later on in the series discords magic as grogar was completely different in color but similar not to mention his magic being stronger than normal as he easly brought back every villain with little effort. Note again how strong cozy became once taking in discords magic but could not control it. Note once more discord did not get strong magic from any were else so how was his magic that strong? Ending this theory on that note i guess i like the (simply) complicated theorys.


i know this is not related to this video but a question just hit me:<br>are the rainboom and sugar rush related? and is there one for unicorns?

i know this is not related to this video but a question just hit me:
are the rainboom and sugar rush related? and is there one for unicorns?


By the way the REAL Grogar is still traped. Discord prerended to be Grogar <b>Spoiler Alert</b>

By the way the REAL Grogar is still traped. Discord prerended to be Grogar *Spoiler Alert*


I do not think he was banished to the stars gusty the great might of banished Grogar to the place where he brought cozy glow, tireak, Chrysalis and king sombra


What about human sunset shimmer?<br>If the sunset shimmer we know came from equestrian lands,what about the one that existed in the human world?

What about human sunset shimmer?
If the sunset shimmer we know came from equestrian lands,what about the one that existed in the human world?


Or what If it was just Celestia, which found a way to bring back her sister. Knowing there was a way to save her.


Wait....... if the sun is a star....... then shouldn’t Luna be the “main” princess?

..... then why did she become jealous and became Nightmare Moon? Shouldn’t the moon be more worshiped and just because it’s darker doesn’t mean that the ponies have to sleep during the night they could just sleep during the day right? Would Celestia have gotten jealous? She was the older and wiser. And just because they’re lighter and darker colors doesn’t mean that Luna can’t be the sun princess. She was just nocturnal but what if Celestia was nocturnal then would she still be the sun princess? Or since she nocturnal she’s the night princess? But if she was nocturnal couldn’t they just have practiced doing each other’s job so they’re used to it?


The only thing that ruins this is that grogar isn't really who he says he is.


Theory :Unicorns are descendants of stars in the sky


Having seen the leaked season finale... this will not age well during the offical release


If Kroger was the  Aid of the stars then what about when nightmare moon was taken into the moon Kroger could’ve acted at any time but he didn’t… He didn’t he could’ve made her come back at any time I think   I have a better idea on<br> Really happened I remember a video I was watching that was talking about nightmare moon and Luna cutie mark you might’ve noticed before she turned into a nightmare moon her cutie mark with a crescent but sometime when she was turning into a nightmare moon  you might’ve noticed her flank something started fading onto it it was weird and scary but what if that is the mark the aided her to escape in the pony of shadows with only explained on the episode where applejack  and Rainbow Dash we’re doing most daring pony and at the end of the episode of cloaked figure with yellow eyes appeared there was no exclamation why but it just happened and how that event occurred with nightmare moon that powerful  force Aided into the stars and aided into her escape before the main fix with founded so you might wanna rethink that

If Kroger was the  Aid of the stars then what about when nightmare moon was taken into the moon Kroger could’ve acted at any time but he didn’t… He didn’t he could’ve made her come back at any time I think   I have a better idea on
 Really happened I remember a video I was watching that was talking about nightmare moon and Luna cutie mark you might’ve noticed before she turned into a nightmare moon her cutie mark with a crescent but sometime when she was turning into a nightmare moon  you might’ve noticed her flank something started fading onto it it was weird and scary but what if that is the mark the aided her to escape in the pony of shadows with only explained on the episode where applejack  and Rainbow Dash we’re doing most daring pony and at the end of the episode of cloaked figure with yellow eyes appeared there was no exclamation why but it just happened and how that event occurred with nightmare moon that powerful  force Aided into the stars and aided into her escape before the main fix with founded so you might wanna rethink that


Ok only four were in the plan (i think i forgot)
grogar.chrysalis.lord tirek.cozy glue
so were they the stars that freed nightmare moon?


Wait... there may be others in the stars, maybe a lost sibling of Celestia and Luna.


Please do another video on Alicorns !! :)


You do know that Grogar isn't real right? It's just Discord pretending to be Grogar to help boost the confidence of Twilight and her friends.

PS: Already saw the last MLP:FiM episodes.

He is real, Discord was just pretending to be him, but he exists. It’s like Twilight pretending to be Pinkie - She may not be the real Pinkie, but there is a real pinkie


If grogar was aries, a lot of other villian could have been related to constellations too. I cant say much because i stopped watching mlp since the middle of season 7 and now im lost but tirek coulf even be related.

Maybe there are more answers in stuff like equestrian girls or even past mlp series.


How did the ponies know that after 1000 years the stars will aid in luna's escape


I certainly think that <i>Grogar</i> freed NMM.

I certainly think that _Grogar_ freed NMM.


Special place in pony hell for those that spoil the final season before it officially airs...Thanks for that...


But how can the spell of grogar banish be weak if the magic is only drained out of canterlot and he was in the stars


PLOT TWIST! Grogar never left the moon.... 😱


You know what's cool? Some of your theories are actually right lol


Grogar died of old age 1.000 years discord acted to be him wow he had us fooled


since our constellations are the same what if there is equestria on the other side of the sky and the people who made all of the generations of mlp are actually part of a secrt organization who knows that it exists and made shows out of it for money or funding


no i think as soon as the spell started he freed his self


i havent watched season nine and im having a stroke trying to figure out who grogar is


I will keep this comment spoiler free, but sorry dude. The staff of MLP did something that throws your theroy out of the park. When you watch the last epiodes, you will know why.


I have been questioning myself.
Since rainbowdash made a sonic rainboom that brought the mane 6-7 together, and in the human world their friends too
But what if she never does the rainboom. What will happen to the other dimension?  What did the human rainbowdash do


i have a theroy: look at twilight's dad's cutie mark. its a moon so what is twilight is luna's grandaughter?


Umm... You know that in Let's Save Equestria (S9 E25-26), Grogar turnd out to be Discord, right?

Muradiye Ates The finale has yet to air anywhere. They could make some last-minute changes, like when "Star Wars" changed "Obi-Wan destroyed your father" to "I am your father".


So much potential wasted.. why on earth did grogar have to be discord??<br>Also- the original grogars never had pupils, dead give away.

So much potential wasted.. why on earth did grogar have to be discord??
Also- the original grogars never had pupils, dead give away.

Well that might be what he looks like in g4, I mean tirek doesn't even look anything like he did

Despite the final just remember grogar might still have been the one who freed nightmare moon


So stars in mlp are quite different BUT our stars and mlp stars are way different there stars (magical or questionable) our stars such as the sun or any random other stars so that could be it

Edit: Also ages ago the sun was notice back in the day and us people that discovered it, pony people already knew about the moon and the sun and how nightmare moon was first known so it’s surely possible or impossible for mlp stars are different or not different to ours.

prediction I guess next video you tell us

if I may be wrong tell me


What if there was a big purple  dome hence the sky  colour like the Simpsons movie but way bigger and around everything and the stars are little holes in it and it's breaking and it will reveal something big us the creators


hello my fellow Brony i have seen episode 24 of mlp the ending of the end and and at least 1\2 of this video is wrong as you should see in that episode grogar is discord.


WAITTTTT<br>WHAT IF GUSTY THE GREAT GAVE GROGARS BELL TO STAR SWIRL BEFORE HE DIED (OR WHATEVER HAPPENED) AND THATS THE BELL ON THE END OF HIS HAT!!!!!!

WAITTTTT
WHAT IF GUSTY THE GREAT GAVE GROGARS BELL TO STAR SWIRL BEFORE HE DIED (OR WHATEVER HAPPENED) AND THATS THE BELL ON THE END OF HIS HAT!!!!!!


I hope we get to see gusty the great in pony


Alright I need to ask something what is grogar because I have seen a few videos on the series that showed that grogar is discord so what is grogar?


I love your videos you are so funny you have great Theory


Grogar is still up there in the stars it turns out that discord was grogar


hooooo boy your in for a bombshell when you finish the series


how could it be that some pony's names reverberate to their cutiemark just like Applerose her cutiemark is an apple and two roses, also just like the rainbow dash which has a rainbow in her cutiemark. and there are also other, also that in the apple family there are many called apple ... and in their cutiemark there is an apple


you should do a review with fob equestria


Discord is disguised as Grogar <br>And Grogar is still banished

Discord is disguised as Grogar
And Grogar is still banished


If they are princesses then that means luna and tia's parents are alive


But wait is discord Grogar, because when the three villains use the bell against him, he turns into discord so I’m confused


You do realise Discord pretended to be Grogar mlp season 9<br>It was revealed in mlp S09E24 AND S09E25

You do realise Discord pretended to be Grogar mlp season 9
It was revealed in mlp S09E24 AND S09E25


okay so you know discord is pertending to be grogar once you find out in season 9 final ep yeah this is spoilers right?


The timeline for mlp fim is non consistent


Don’t forget that grogar was actually discord in disguise


Sorry for this.. It's a good thought, but Grogar is Discord in disguise... The season 9 finale is out!!


Wasn’t Grogar discord the whole time? So Grogar hasn’t actually escape.

Dark Warrior oooh right. But that doesn’t mean he still out there somewhere

Despite the final just remember grogar might still have been the one who freed nightmare moon<br>And gorogar might be free

Despite the final just remember grogar might still have been the one who freed nightmare moon
And gorogar might be free


6:48
and that's where the finale comes in :)
(i'm not saying any more)


Brony Notion is like Sans in to a pony/changeling


I have a question ? Does starwirls have a deasendent


wait... in season 9 episode 24 it is revealed that grogar is discord!


Anyone notice the flat earth society is inside a circle?<br>"Members all over the globe..."

Anyone notice the flat earth society is inside a circle?
"Members all over the globe..."


This is canonically disproven since grogar was discord all along. Just saying.


Grogar was discord not some one else see in MD.Tanzan's recommendations and click sweet bell will be in the picture see the video you can find it


I really want to watch season 9 of MLP but my tv network blocked the channel it aired on so now I can’t watch it :( I tried looking them up but my phone is really glitchy

You can look all Episodes on xxnightmaremoonxx, its a german site who has all Episodes in Englisch and German and its free.<br>I hope i could help.

You can look all Episodes on xxnightmaremoonxx, its a german site who has all Episodes in Englisch and German and its free.
I hope i could help.


WAIT A SECOND If grogar was ares what about the other constellations

The Brony Notion I didn’t know you would actually answer me but what if the could be a Group of characters that are called the constellations who protect the planet wouldn’t it be cool

Who knows dude!! Perhaps they can become beings like the ursas?


What if he got released when he released nightmaremokn


The constellation Aries is on the background on 4:33


Idk anything about grogar because for me season nine didn’t come in Netflix so how you even know all of this?????


but grogar was discord (the people who havent seen the episode - WTF)

I personally think means that Grogar is just still in the stars. All of this makes sense otherwise,  and if we take away the fact that we see 'him' in Season 9, it actually gets us to the definite conclusion of him being the constellation Aries much quicker. Instead of having to justify his appearance and find a way that he could have escaped, we already have an answer. He never escaped in thee first place.


Welp should we throw this all out the window? Cause now we finally know tht DISCORD IS GROGAR!

@Dark Warrior hmm true.... Thats why he might still be in the stars

Despite the final just remember grogar might still have been the one who freed nightmare moon


You made a Theory about Cutiemarks. I would be really interested, what kid of Destiny or Power Cozy Glows Cutymark represents. Can younpleas emake a Theory about that?


SPOILERS DO NOT CONTINUE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE SEASON 9 FINALE

It's not grogar its discord

*SPOILERS* *DO NOT CONTINUE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE SEASON 9 FINALE*

It's not grogar its discord


mlp has ended.your theory that you said in the past some of it was false


SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GROGAR IS DISCORD


What if from your last video the tree of chaos rising as the yin to the tree of harmony

I also just realised that in a flurry of emotions, Twilight was reading a story about gusty the great and grogar to the fillys in the hospital


I think we can safely say, now, that the awnser to this video is "No.".... ^^;


Spoiler alert

Grogar was actually Discord in disguise.....


Do you come up with a script? Or is this all coming from the top of your head???


K let’s just wait until brony watches the last episodes


Mlp season 9 finale spoiler

Or it was discord that wanted to bring twily's confidence


technicaly stars is made out of plasma the fourth state of matter


Grogar is still a star and the grogar is discord


Make a video about if sunbersts is a alicorn


(SPOILER ALERT:) Might just throw this theory away because Grogar is just Discord lol


Here is a theory discord is pretending to be  grogar


Yeah but grogar in season 9 is discord 🤨🤨


oof finally i get 0.0.1% mentioned in a video

(about twi's fashion show outfit he mentioned my sign which is sagittarius also my bro is an aries and hes annoying uwu)


Isn't grogar discord they reavel it in the final ep right

That doesn't mean the real grogar is discord, it is obvious he hasn't watched the final episodes because the leak and everything


BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY A SHOW THEORY I had to 😅


Guys what's going on with the end of My little pony R.I.P My little pony


😑 Discord was Grogar <b>spoiler alert</b>


if you dont understand watch last episodes its on youtube


So um grogar was well look at the latest episode


You do know there's new shit in the MLP right


Is this a last episode like my little pony


Discord broke cause the foals were doing chaos UvU


Brony i watched the last episode of my little pony (spoiler) she became bigger and looks like celestia wavy hair and stuff explain this

Also add up cozy she has been transforming to alicorn btw love your videos


grogar isnt in equestria at all discordbecame grogar


U said spoiler free but been spoiling since the video started. Then 8:00 u spoiled season 8 for me. Wait that was Dr. Wolf

@Sawtooth Waves Oh shoot I actually got reply from Brony Notion. Love ur vids  man and huge fan of the series. I was just being funny. I did get spoiled cause I'm at episode 18 in season 8 but my comment was just for laughs. Anyway love ur work man keep it up

They episodes we talked about have been out for a while. This video is free from the unreleased episodes that have recently leaked. Sorry for the confusion but I couldn't fit all that in the title.


What are the cutie marks of the gaurds of equestria


plz can you react to remembrance pretty plz😭it makes me cry sooo much.


You have a rare curse

the knowledge curse

You have a rare curse

*the knowledge curse*


Choco_ Chan watch the older MLP episodes. And I’m talking 1980’s


Sorry to say but grogar is actually discord


i saw three weeks ago and a looked to fast and i thought it said 3 years and i was like WHAT


But...... this Grogar is Discord..... how does this work?

@Reese this doesn't work because where is the REAL Grogar? because the grogar we all know and have seen so far in the last episode and season of MLP turns out to be discord!!!!!!!!!! soooooo ur comment doenst make sense, re-watch the vid sister.

Moon of the Hivewings it’s BEFORE Discord broke out.


This theory is worthless

1. Grogar was Discord in disguise
2. Grogar would be dead or literally still a star and never gotten back out.

Watch the anime before u make theory that don't stick

@King_Fisher Do you have comprehension issue? If it is theory (hypothesis are scientific) it by default mean that it may be incorrect, as such clarifying that would be redundant and confusing. Also I already did see the final, what is also point of my comment. So why you even presume that it can be wrong regard that?

@TheRezro still you're literally saying you know everything and think your hypothesis is right when it's basically gonna be wrong when the show comes out.

@aycc-nbh72 I hope so. Because it was such disappointment. Not, GoT level but Steven Universe final, I would say.

The Brony Notion  The finale has yet to air anywhere. They could make some last-minute changes, like when "Star Wars" changed "Obi-Wan destroyed your father" to "I am your father".

@Sawtooth Waves If you ask my this episode was clearly rewrited. For starters "Bewitching Bell" suggest some form of brainwashing or control over Shadow entity, which existence was implied in the show. Grogar powers also don't fit his description as "feeding with fear father of demons". Furthermore Discord plan didn't make any sense as Twilight was already confident. On top on that Twilight end like total tool doing nothing, as they decide on "revenge of the forest" cliche. And they suffer on opposite issue to Steven Universe, where irredeemable villain was just talk-jutsu to turn into stooge in the movie, here three clearly remediable villains were just turned into the stone. Seriously WTF? Also why the hell Windigos were there? Weren't they symbol, with Sirens being real ones (they literally look and did the same). Seriously, I even noticed them forgetting about some old plot-points. Anyway, I suspect three possibilities:
1) Studio decided to cut ending to move good stuff to five generation.
2) Hasbro forced them to do that as it "didn't fit" target audience of little girls.
3) GoT syndrome. After team was moved to Allspark they lost crucial people, and didn't have design material for ending as it obviously was kept in secret.

Anyway, how I would make the ending:
1) Villain trio try use Bewitching Bell against Grogar, but he turn Cozy into a Alicorn laughing that they did think that they did know what they doing. He ring the bell, and call evil versions of Alicorns, commenting that "his demonic servants hide under his nose" and "that make things easier". Other two villains run.
2) Friendship spell is broken. Main 6 (-Twilight who disappear) turn into assholes. Here young 6 come into action remaining them about they friendship. They still acting bit off, but decide to go help Twilight when young ones move to call backup. Starlight also appear saying that something happen to Trixie and almost to her but she resisted. She take control over the team.
3) They go to Cristal Empire taken ower by dark spikes. Ponies plan to sneak in, but Tirek and Chrysalis show up. Before they start fighting Discord show up and show them some details from the past. So we learn Grogar, Tirek and Chrysalis. Specifically that Tired summoned his "brother" but he loved him and was jealous when he start obsessing over ponies instead him, and that Chrysalis know about alicorns being demons what was the reason she was so paranoid and distrustful, she only didn't know that they were related to Grogar (who is pure douche and was destroyed). Anyway villains would provide distraction when ponies sneak in.
4) They find Edgy Twilight and try talk to her. He act like it work, but then capture them and start laughing. We learn that she is now in control of Empire as Shadow Pony (which she was all the time possessing Stygian). And here is good point to reveal that Grogar was Discord, but he was backstabbed by her. Anyway, everyone is imprisoned and demons laugh invasion, but others are ready for defense.
5) Spike pop up, because he in fact was demonic adjutant all the time (infamous Lord Scales and one who steal crystal heart). But he isn't under control being simply loyal to Twilight, and he release them as it isn't what she really wishes. Just bell control her. Discord show up and provide us additional detail about Twilight being Sombra's doughtier and infamous Evil Sorcerer of legend, what did happen back then and them trying save her from darkness with friendship, as she isn't truly evil.
6) Then we have all interesting battles. Villains redeem themselves and friendship bring Twilight to normal with Starlight taking the Bell and Midnight Sparkle coming to senses. Twilight is terrified of what she did but princesses calm her down saying that they know all along, and that was meant to happen as now girls are connected by real friendship and not the spell. But now they need live taking Cozy as she is in fact young Cadence. They come through portal.
7) Then in final scene sisters appear in futuristic Canterlot. And are welcomed by they aunt Twilight, and parents Cadence and Shining Armour (as alicorn). We also learn future of other characters (also now alicorns). In post credit we see Star Swirl trying cast alicorn spell and being turned in young Discord, then Discord pop up and say "that everything should turn on track of time" brainwash and turn into stone his younger self and send into the past.

But nop. We get lame version instead 0_0

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King of Liez

1) And theory isn't worthless kid. Theories exist to guess explanation of something, and that they make twist basically destroying whole potential of the plot is other story.
2) He clearly made this video before the final was released, and that is exactly when you should make theories. Otherwise it isn't theory anymore. And it also isn't anime, you idiot.

this was written and mostly edited before the episode you're referring to was leaked, and it still wont be officially released where i live for over a month, and from what i've heard, parts of the theory are still possible


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(Clears troat) stars are rocks why are they glowing becuase its moving fast but you can't se it.


See the kisscartoon write mlp final episode


Umm not to birst ur theory BUTTTTT It’s not true not one bit……… If u see the end of season 9 u see discord was pretending to be grogar soooo he gone…………… sorry………………

@Reese grogar was defeated at the time so WAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Madison White and this video is talking about events FROM BEFORE DISCORD GOT FREE


Pratibha Chaudhary check the post date. That wasn't revealed when he made this video.


crocra animal animal in the world with powerful word on the spirit of this Star vs Spirit of animal star the Bear of the star is cousin after crocra


Michael Candfield it takes time to think of a theory ya know.


No because I don’t know how much it will get done in a couple days but I’m going back and forth with you guys so much I think I’m just getting to work with my dad I just want you know what you want me and you know what I’m going through I just got home from the hospital I was going through the whole thing I don’t want you going I just got a little something for me I just want you know what you mean and you don’t have any good time you can do that I will talk with him later and let me talk with him about the weekend I don’t want you know that I’m not sure what I would like but I’m just saying I want you know that I’m not sure what I would like but I’m just saying I want you know that I’m going through the process and I’m just going through my life I don’t want you know what you mean to him I just don’t know how much you mean you want me and I want you know that I’m going through a little something and you know I want you know what I mean but I’m not sure if you have a problem or not just let him go talk with him I know he was just like that he didn’t know that he had to do that and I just want you know that he is a little something that I want you know that you know you have to go through it all I want you know what I mean you know that I’m not sure if I can do that or if you don’t know how much you mean you want me and I want you know that I’m not sure if I can get to see him or you want me and you don’t know how


are you dead? i mean i know you have a nother job but it does NOT take 2 months to make a video,ESPECIALLY since it looks like to me that you do not draw you oc but make different frames in the pony generater


Hey guess what... it was discord the wholllle time... ok everyone might know this by now but I needed to say it...

Yeah, you needed to ruin fun for everyone else ^_- Keep up the good work. Like a true villain.


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Bubble it cannot happen because just Court Way Corrigan dog is that why it wasn't my fence because I feel we just want to be your Discord but you're gone


this is an amazing theory! i agreed with it until i saw the finale spoilers- i wont say them but- well- if you want to ignore anything that could be interpreted as a spoiler in any sort of way, look away. this is for your own good. <b>ahem</b> Grogar got stuck in the stars, and bailed out nightmare moon with his last strength, hoping that his final action will spread disharmony. (old age thing) although, i think it could also be the stars in his constellation spreading out too far, like he WAS the constellation, but over maybe even 2000 years or MORE, the stars would definately move.

this is an amazing theory! i agreed with it until i saw the finale spoilers- i wont say them but- well- if you want to ignore anything that could be interpreted as a spoiler in any sort of way, look away. this is for your own good. *ahem* Grogar got stuck in the stars, and bailed out nightmare moon with his last strength, hoping that his final action will spread disharmony. (old age thing) although, i think it could also be the stars in his constellation spreading out too far, like he WAS the constellation, but over maybe even 2000 years or MORE, the stars would definately move.


I have an idea for a video for you. They said that cozy glow in her final almost sucked all the magic from the world, but they also say that friendship produces magic or at least amplifies it. So does that make magic a finite resource that can be taken away or if they all huddled together in a friendship circle would they have been able to make more magic after her weird spell ball?


I say! You're just as good as Matpat. Both your theories make more and more sense as you go along. I'm impressed.


At first I was like... wut? How could Grogar- But then you really hit me with the evidence. I think this theory is amazing, even though that's probably not the writers' intention.


Alternate theory on Doctor Wolf's part. Maybe, after untold millennia, he managed to use some of the spells energy, the spell holding him in place, to free Nightmare Moon. This would have weakened his own prison to the point where he could escape at his leasure.


Theres a problem with the theory, when cozy glow started to destroy the magic he could have escaped, BUT, when the magic was back he should have been sent automaticaly back to the constalation. It was clear that gusty was more powerfull than grogar so how could him escape from the spell when the magic was alredy back?


That is a very good theory, and would explain a lot as well. I have my own theory about Grogar as well, given he was called 'The Father of Monsters' and every monster we have seen in the MLP universe has been a 'mish-mash' of different creatures...including one very prominent villain...so my thought is..Grogar created Discord.

Midnight Star too bad the show creators didn’t care to explain much of anything.


Magical artifacts were still operating when the magic was returned to Equestria.so it's not much of a stretch that drogo still wasn't able to find it because the Bell was still shielding itself to its own power. And after all it is an immense power generating its own magic power so it might have been able to last longer as well.. Also cozy glow was taking the magic from Equestria so I'm order for it to have affected grogars improvement it would have to mean that the source of the magic holding grogar there had to of been equestrian based.... I can only think of a single artifact thats been destroyed in the show the skeleton key


Unfortunately, now knowing his true motive, and the timeline for gaining that motive, I doubt he would have done this.  Then again, he had another motive at the time, so maybe...


Actually this theory is very possible and will explain a lot of questions from the past as well as the evidence pointed out throughout the series and why vulgare waited so long because he was still imprisoned until release by The Worst season. There's a theory that badly to be discussed about the Pony of Shadows could be a byproduct from Grogar's old creatures and monsters he created as well as the Umbrum.


4:48 Twilight’s had 5 stars though, and the ones that helped NM were 4. And Twilight said they were accurate.


Alternatively, Grogar could have sent magic up there to free her, and the draining of magic from Cozy also drained some magic from the bell, which when released flowed back to him?


Very cool theory. It makes totally sense that Grogar was the one behind freeing Nightmare Moon from her moon prison. At first I just thought it was some sort of magic that made the stars look like they were moving but after that saying "the stars will aid in her escape" and then this theory about Grogar, it made me go "omg that makes so much sense!"

This is why I like watching MLP theories because you learn so much about your shows 😃

Edit: also I'm an Aries 🐏


I don't think Grogar got out of his star prison. Think about it, the spells cast by Gusty on Mount Everhoof never wear out even if Cozy Glow almost stole the magic.When she stole it those spells should have failed, but the didn't. That would mean one thing, that Grogar is still in his star prison.


Man I wish this was correct.
I wonder why Discord chose to disguise himself as Grogar. Why do you think he chose that disguise?
Your theory might be right and Discord just tuned it perfectly so that Grogar would make sense just in case a villain started theorising.


What's sad to me is that (SPOILERS AHEAD S9)

It was never really Grogar who showed up, apparently, it was only Discord disguising himself so that he could set up another challenge for the Mane 6 to defeat. My question is, where is the real Grogar? Is he still trapped as a constellation or did Gusty the Great try something else in order to stop his reign of terror?


I believe that even if grogar is Discord this theory still exists! Maybe Discord was grogar all along but not exactly strong enough... Or maybe Discord can travel through time and that's how everything happened...

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I always wondered what was about those stars and this theory could be true, but it certainly wasn't their way of thinking back in season 1. (And anyway that's not what theories are for. :)
I always liked to think that there were some greater forces of evil and good fighting all these seasons.

And about Equestrian cosmology in A Rockhoof and a Hard Place Twilight mentions the move of the stars that resembles Earth's axial precession. In our world it happens because the Earth orbits the Sun. Assuming Equestria follows the same laws of physics I don't know how would it happen in a geocentric world, but on the other hand I don't know if we can talk about physics if we have two goddesses moving celestial bodies across the sky...


I’ve already seen the final and can say that, even when something’s are wrong, these theory makes some good darn sense


I just cant believe they left Kirins in season. 8 I hoped to see them again


oh wow this is so great, i'm really impressed by your theories


I have another theory of my own. I think that Groger was watching with him ball thing and that he was waiting for a strong group to aid him. As for him getting from the stars to “earth”, he and Nightmaremoon came down together but went back to where the were last. I know this may be weird but it’s just a theory

A PONY THEORY!


This is a solid theory lol it’s always so fun to watch these


Now that I think about the prophecy. I don’t think the stars literally aided her escape as in they decided to help her escape. I think Celestia knew that the banishment was not permanent from the start and that a magical astronomically event would give nightmare moon enough magical power for her to escape. And that the next magical astronomically event would be this star alignment with the moon in a thousand years. And that why it was recorded that she would escape in a thousand years. Nightmare moon would probably have this knowledge too or at least sense the magic and make her escape. They just worded it as the stars aiding her because it was the event that did help her escape. The stars still don’t work the same as our universe to move suddenly like that. But this is a magical universe.


The fact that Aries consists of 4 stars makes this theory have even more merit

I found many different forms of aries all with varying star counts, but the four brightest ones were common among all!


You. Are. A. GENIUS.
In your video “ iluminati symbolism in MLP “ you talked about the pentagram, and how when faced up, it represents the top point facing to heaven. When turned upside down, you mentioned that the point is now facing to hell ( or the underworld ). You also mentioned, that the two points facing up represented the horns of a ram.
And what exactly is grogar?
A RAM.
even tho it was just an April fools joke, I’m convinced you’re able to predict the future. 👍🏻


Although you're theory may be correct but if really were then this brings about another question , if grogar seems to be the consolation Aries,  then what about the other zodiac?, I mean like cmon you yourself said in 4:23 to 4:29 ; there are Scorpio centaurs and vice versa sooo does that mean if grogar was Aries then the other constellations may posses a magical being like groger too, I mean it wouldn't make sense , if grogar was turned to a constellation then the other zodiac HAVE to posses some being too or it wouldn't make sense for just grogar to be Aries and others to just be normal constellations , I would love 5o hear your thoughts on this it is a mystery to solve after all.


Didn't Grogar say it took him a millennia to discover his bell? Was he searching for it even while in the stars?


I think Starswirl has something to do with this, I don't know how this theory came to me I just think that this has a connection to starswirl. I mean Starswirl holds powerful magic that's beyond even alicorn power and if Starswirl had enough power to banish the evil dragons to a different dimention  (the equestria girl land) then maybe he helped Gusty the great banish crogar to the stars. That was just a theory i had, I love your channel and I subscribed. Bye!


Their theories are so so good i feel so bad they Made that before seeing the final episodes x(


Dr Wolf got in LOL. Nice collab you two! :) Neat theory!


Fun fact: Grogar was actually mentoned un the 1992 My little pony N',friends in season1 episode 26, stating "the legend of tembolon, it last appered 500 years ago and its ruller Grogar tried to conquer ponyland. Grogar swore that he will return to the realm of darkness 500 years later to try again." Just like in friendship is magic, he can steal unicorn magic.


Well you`ll just have to wait on till you find out Grogar is actually Discord won't you, and the only reason he did that was to boost Twilight`s self-esteem, so you absolutely right, he is still in the stars so to speak, I watched the English Sub already so I know


Man spoiler alert? I've already seen the ending but man can people like... not spoil it? It hasn't even aired in English yet


still salty that they killed off Sombra again. Would have loved to see  him working with the other villains a bit more.


In the end of  season 8 it said magic will all be gone when the sun sets but was Celestia raising the sun?


There's also the fact thar a ton of Grogar's power seems locked away IN his Bell.


This theory's really great! (I wanted to add something else but nope, it could be considered as a spoiler, and I ain't gonna spoil even a bit)


Isn't it amazing how the Brony Notion's voice hasn't changed over the years


I think grogar is possibly behind the releases of all the imprisoned villains


The end would of make sense if the episode “the last battle” wouldn’t of destroyed it


But Grogar  wants to rule Equestria. In season 5 we saw what would happen if Nightmare moon had won and no Grogar beside her.


1. The stars do not have to be close to align behind the moon. 2. The stories are just that. We do not know how much truth to them as stories we have from ancient times tell of things that we now know not to be true. There has been no reference to distance with any celestial objects in the MLP world so you cannot just assume they are luminaries or just points of lights in the sky. So your assumption about the stars is just that. Grogar did not bail out Nightmare Moon. Her imprisonment was only meant to be temporary. Also the fact that Princess Celestia was the one that imprisoned her. Luna (Nightmare Moon) is her sister. Its like a punishment not a jail sentence. If you recall Celestia told Twilight that she knew that she had it within her to defeat Nightmare Moon. This means that she relinquished her control over the elements so that Twilight could use them. Celestia wrote the prophecy so she know how long it would be for the punishment would last.  Also where was Celestia during the battle with Nightmare Moon and Twilight and her friends? She stayed away so that Twilight could learn and grow. Celestia has been doing that throughout the series.  Now for Grogar being banished to the stars. No this is not possible even in the MLP world. Luna was sent to the moon and that is no star. It took several magical artifacts to help her do it too. Starswirl banished 3 sirens to another dimension and that's not the stars either and he was considered one of the most powerful characters. So Grogar was banished to a dimension most likely and not stars. I do not understand where your getting your ideas from. (Flat Earth maybe) but they are just not in line with the show.  Just because there were constellations shown does not explain it.  So In my opinion I think your theory doesn't hold up.


I never actually noticed until now that In that first episode the four stars moved toward the moon o.o


This would have been so cool, and give a respectful great story for the show, but nooooo.


Grogar is a real character but sadly in the finale I found out that Grogar in the finale was Discord the whole time.


Hey if you watch the Danish dubs which air earlier for the end of the show, you will see the conformation of the alcorn aging theory

By the way,  tha is for deepening my love for this awesome show


Ops, logic error. Why would the stars WANT to release Nightmare Moon? & why does it take 4 stars to release her but only 3 stars to open the dimensional doorway between worlds (as in EQG). After all NASA got to the moon before opening a dimensional doorway (that we know of). Answer; because 1 of the stars needs to go thru the doorway. <br>Is Growgar one of the stars? No (who are the other stars?).

Ops, logic error. Why would the stars WANT to release Nightmare Moon? & why does it take 4 stars to release her but only 3 stars to open the dimensional doorway between worlds (as in EQG). After all NASA got to the moon before opening a dimensional doorway (that we know of). Answer; because 1 of the stars needs to go thru the doorway.
Is Growgar one of the stars? No (who are the other stars?).

So who are the stars? Consider Luna became NMM because she needed too much power (because "the ponies did not love her" (nite, night, or knight).) Did she need power to defeat her sister? No. Did she need power to hold the sky? No.
We have seen great power - Starlight Glimmer's time travel, Twilight becoming an alicorn, putting an Ursula Minor to sleep, hatching a dragon egg.
Now consider what did NMM do when she returned- she RETREATED to the castle of the 2  sisters (longest day of the year = weakest). There she might have found the book "manifestation imagination" which was left in a room that only an alicorn or a dragon could enter. What would that book do to NMM? Could the stars write the book just for NMM?
Luna also avoided Cadence & Shiny wedding. Could it be that she couldn't watch something she had been denied? ("the ponies did not love her knight").
Back to great forbidden power; time travel or hatching a dragon egg(s). Based on NMM's reaction to Twilight in Starlight's time loup, NMM never even considered time travel b4.
So who are the stars? Might they be the dragons NMM hatched?


Do not cite the dark magic to me, witch.

I was there when it was written.

*Do not cite the dark magic to me, witch.*

*I was there when it was written.*


I don't think Grogar could have been around during Nightmare moon's escape, considering...

Trollerjak the Trolling God-Emperor of Trolls


Wait a minute...if he watched over all the villains...and he brought them together...where is nightmare moon? And how can he convinces Luna to let her Nightmare Moon self take over??? And now since she knows she’s not alone,it will be harder for her Nightmare Moon self to take over.Right???😇 Also discord is not with the villains soo...will Nightmare Moon and discord be convinced to join the bad guys? Also would that make Nightmare Moon scarier and stronger than most of the villains??? Please make a video about my comment.🤩


I believe this theory to be true. It make so much sense.


That would fill a lot of holes and explain where he came from.


What if like celestia put a timer on lunas banishment in hope that when she comes back she is able to recover her. it doesnt sound like celestia to banish her sister forever and a thousand years is probably nothing for an alicorn.


Grogar is discord. The original Grogar had not been seen for a long time long before Nightmare moon escaped


Wait so some people have seen how the show ends already?😅


He's so gonna be pissed when he finds out the twist in the finale


Well falling stars are actually an airstrike on Sombra's zombie army (scootertrix the abridged)


If tarturus was a place when celestia and luna turned discord in to stone and celestia banishing luna to the moon why instead of that put them in tarturus same with king sombra


I think someone did, but I’m not sure it was Grogar.


Great theory!

But sadly it’s not canon

(SPOILER alert!!!)

Grogar is actually discord!


Ok. If this is true, then who knew the stars would aid in her escape? Who knew his would happen? And how come he aids in her escape, yet unable to escape himself?


Hmm
 What if cozy glows spell or whatever is what made It so easy for king Sombra to break the elements because the magic had weakened the spell protecting it?
Of course I am a idiot and could just be wrong


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You know...<br>I can't figure it out how Sombra came back 😛

You know...
I can't figure it out how Sombra came back 😛


but who would of known and written it down?

As with most things - A wizard did it.

*but who would of known and written it down?*

As with most things - A wizard did it.


How to I keep missing this guys uploads dang. I’m so pumped for this.


It's okay.

I also open the microwave door before it beeps.


i usually really like your videos and i was thrilled to watch this one too, but i was immediately shunned in the beginning of the video because i believe the earth is flat. so i guess i'm not welcome or respected for my opinion on the matter...it made me really feel like not watching the video anymore, or even brony notion videos really. hope the theory was fun, but i can't sit through this one, which is too bad... i hope the next video turns out to be better if i decide to watch it~

Raquel Gamble your so stupid if you think the earth is flat


luna and celestia have parents right? and their alicorns right (I think) why did we never see or heard of them ? the Mlp episodes should of atleast mentioned them,but they didn't which is sad,i don't think we saw candence's parents either, or chrysalis's.


Wait I’m an Aries..does that mean I’m a spawn of Grogar?!<br>(I’m not..I was just playing!!)

Wait I’m an Aries..does that mean I’m a spawn of Grogar?!
(I’m not..I was just playing!!)


Hey brony!!!! Your my favourite my little pony youtuber! Just wanted to ask every pony princess has a name related to day and maybe someone like starlight and sunsetshimmer have their names related to the day . Example- Celestia, Luna , twilight sparkle. Just wanted to tell you that .


Remember what someone said about this one in the episode about the stars

Moonstone silver diamond team Mr. M the top heroes


I saw MLP last chapter and... Now I know every friend of twilight is going to die early than she :'v


ok having seen a spoiler revieling discord was grogar in disguise, how does this fit in?


Umm brony notion I noticed something wrong in this concept.If magic was absorbed then shouldn’t grogar magic also be liked weakened or gone. I think that discord is actually pretending to be grogar.That is because I think that grogar is still trapped.i then noticed that gorgars eyes at the end of beginning of the end in season 9 looked like discord.In season 4 I think it was when discord broke free, at the end of those episodes discord’s eye did a same thing as grogar


Guess what?!?! The final of My little pony friendship is magic season nine has been revealed


I don't think so
[Lmao heavy spoiler]

During the final episodes is revealed that grogar is actually discord on disguise


I have a theory for<br>My theory is that spike is only I love with rarity’s hair style and not her

I have a theory for
My theory is that spike is only I love with rarity’s hair style and not her


There is even 4 stars like the ram constilat


Apparently, Grogar was actually just Discord :/


When your friend tells a horrible joke 7:16


Grogar=Discord=stone
😂👌
But good Theory 👌👌👌


I also open the microwave door at the exact time.


So uh I actually no the truth about Grogar. Not gonna spoil it. Also the Prophecy was a Riddle. The Riddle states "On the longest day of the 1000th year, the Stars shall aid in the Moon's escape." Luna means Moon in Latin. And who has Stars as a Cutie Mark? A "Sparkling" young unicorn mage named Twilight. She has 6 Stars as a Cutie Mark. Including the symbol of Magic, A 6 pointed star


You are our goat-to source of information! Not baaad!


“The earth is round. There is no up or down”

- Ponk


Omg a ten minute video!!! Get that coin sis


Ooh! Thats a cool Theory! also, yay you finally posted!


Tell the truth I think they Rush the ending it could have been a lot better and change the story that's all I got to say I'm not going to spoil nothing


Hey can you do a theory on if sunset shimmer is a phenix instead of a alacorn


I think your theory gonna be debunked once you see the finale.


Ur gonna be surprised once uve watched episode 24/25 - 26


Ok if you're gonna pose as someone for a single video TAKE DOWN THE SIGN!


<b>Hello I am the magic fairy of spoilers and Crogar is Discord ! Like Crogar is dead since a long ago and it was Discord all along who tried to reunite the villains together so that they could understand friendship xD</b>

*Hello I am the magic fairy of spoilers and Crogar is Discord ! Like Crogar is dead since a long ago and it was Discord all along who tried to reunite the villains together so that they could understand friendship xD*


Can you do something about twilight hair like and how she looks like celestia I'm just confused like is Luna older than twilight and yet she's bigger and cadence would she have been as big as celestia and has wavey hair plz explain I must know this (it cant be age the mane 6 are still there)


Seems ligit enough everything points to his release


“How would I have an accurate depiction of the consolations if it’s printed on my ass.”


but ...... <br>why did he set her free🤔🤔


Me: see Poseidon from Poptropica :O!!! You know about Poptropica too!

anyways, love the theory!

Me: *see Poseidon from Poptropica* :O!!! You know about Poptropica too!

anyways, love the theory!


I really REALLY tried to ignore spoilers, but I do know about Grogar's origins. I won't tell you, but I can promise you it will be a huge surprise. ;)

Well, it was a surprise for me. I had an excitement stroke.

PS Not actually, but I was flipping out.

Not anymore since everyone is spoiling him


Okay so dis may be spoilers but it's important.

.... Discord was Grogar the EnTirE TiMe ...it's revealed in the season 9 last 3 episodes.... That's why the spell 'failed' ...it's not the real Grogar ...... IT WAS DISCORRRD.....I was shook too but there's ur answer sorry for spoiling it if u ppl read dis...I warned u...ur welcome


Title should be “did discord bail out nightmare moon” lul


funny how much all these videos will matter soon enough lol


The MLP writers: uhhh we were kinda just winging it but uhhh... is this copyrighted?<br>One of them:(how did he know) ha ha yeah we were totally winging it ha ha heh

The MLP writers: uhhh we were kinda just winging it but uhhh... is this copyrighted?
One of them:(how did he know) ha ha yeah we were totally winging it ha ha heh

Sophie zee plushie 2 months, maybe they can scrap the original in time for the American release and just steal this guys idea!


Listen I guess the as the princess rules her hair is flotyish so it may be that cylestia and Luna are big liers


Sadly i know of certain events in future episodes.....


Mysteries that people never understood:
Bermuda triangle
Area 51
Why tbn is becoming very active again


four start, four gold symbols on his neck...


Grogar is Discord okay. From <b>HASPRO</b> EP 23-26 s9

Grogar is Discord okay. From *HASPRO* EP 23-26 s9


I got a theory about well exactly did Nightmare Moon get up and got back to Equestria so fast portals in time the past and present all things to the tree of Harmony and maybe Beyond you think my  theory you should come at the love and give me a like edit :     :)


Grogar was DISCORED!!! Watch mlp season 9 episode 24

Athena Maia say spoiler or delete comment


I'm going to be straight up honest,this theory makes A LOT of sense!!!


STOP!

I thought I was the only one who stopped the microwave on 1 second so it didn’t make that annoying beeping sound-


You're sooooo terible wrong about this... I already saw the finally but I don't wanna spoil... just wait 😂😂😂😂... You're gonna have a huge shock


OOHHHOOO you gonna be so mad when you watch the finale Ep.... x3


i don't know, <b>did</b> crobar bail out moonlight by xxxtentacion?

i don't know, *did* crobar bail out moonlight by xxxtentacion?


Grogar is really dead... Vanished really mean is dead... He dead<br>...DEEEAADDD

Grogar is really dead... Vanished really mean is dead... He dead
...DEEEAADDD


SPOILER WARNING: grogar is discord in disguise!


I’M AN ARIES!!!!!!!! 😱😱😱<br>AM I GROGAR?!?! 😹😹😹

I’M AN ARIES!!!!!!!! 😱😱😱
AM I GROGAR?!?! 😹😹😹


Yay the Notion is back! And nice poke at the Flat Earthers tm


hey i just wached your star swirl and flery heat =fire heat


grogar is still banished discord is the grogar in season 9 {from the leaked episodes in dutch}


Did you guys know that Discord was alltime Grogar?? The real grogar is dead or gone to somewhere else. Hope we can see him in the future the real grogar:)


You won't believe what if I told you there's an even bigger thing stars what if I told you I like us humans really die immortal living bodies of spirits restless


Mlp finished and i saw in a vid. that grogar was discord


Julian Sparks but I’m trying to ask did it age instantly or did it not age at all. Loophole much?

DJ Snippy that’s the point of my comment 🙄

Julian Sparks it came out after the spoilers so...


didn't my little pony end already? wait if it ended wat r u gonna do now

FIM ended but MLP won't end there will always be a new generation.


Sorry notion for all your alicorn theories are dead. T.o.d s9 ep26


Too bad this theory isnt working at all.


It is impossible because discord was grogar all along in season 9 and we know that discord was turned back from stone after luna was reinstated as a princess or the coming of the nightmare moon...So, its impossible and ur theory is sorta wrong...Also grogar was banished to some other realm by somepony called gusty and it's not possible he would come back out of thin air


Aries! That’s me..

..My zodiac is Aries

Aries! That’s me..

..My zodiac is Aries


@CUZLOCKED The show sucks, so who cares about spoilers now.


Thanks discord!!! Because discord is grogar!


Spoiler free in the last episode of mlp you see grogar was discord


What Aries UwU that’s my zodiac <br>Aries squad where u at

What Aries UwU that’s my zodiac
Aries squad where u at


Sometimes our money and Gusty why did you why did she have to spell to make him I'm going in the store cuz I think sometimes like want to make images of Bowser in someone else's doors Magic I destroy everyone in Ponyville clouds Mario and and the Alicorn it's just the Crystal Empire was never destroy was only destroy the Umbra but why don't Pro God only destroy pony backpack Darkness Darkness sometimes the lives of Captain man's not safe from harm it was just that 16 was not grown yet stop the creatures with a buzz or being more magic even the bad creatures like the chicken and the more evil chickens in the other creatures that's bad just like Twilight Sparkle and her friends just that when someone gets a bell he goes mad and he see she was Benson the Straz when someone poked his self because why did you want to drop it it's because she was making too much evil power she was the power list and making too much evil good no good to snow Acme evilness drowning in Adventure Time Reagan stuff and more evil ones away nothing wants to be people I just want to know more magic to be powerful it's just that why he was mentioning the store for cut he was never nice. That was also like acai Super Bowl one that has funny person like Fluttershy and one that's evil and serious and don't like somebody he was a evil power of not a good one always wants to be evil


but grogar never left, spoiler alert

it was discord


Ummmmm im sorry if im misunderstanding but grogard never went ut of The stars IF he was in The stars but aniway groggar was disgord


Grogar is just discord trying to take over .-.<br>It’s a fact

Grogar is just discord trying to take over .-.
It’s a fact


wow      you        ard         grat.                   love    gabby.

wow      you        ard         grat.                   love    gabby.


Oops I didn't have my notifs on so I'm 1 mounth late fudge


How have I not thought more about Grogar? Seriously! I'm so glad there are content creates like you and other theorists to keep me on my toes. Keep up the great work!


While it is certainly an interesting Theory, I always saw "The Stars will aid in her escape" as more of a....poetic explanation, so to speak.
Normally in Stories, when celestial Bodies align, it means that great cosmic Power is unleashed, and I could imagine that such Power, which maybe only appear every 1000 years, freed Nightmare Moon.
The stars would probably align again in a thousand Years and wouldn't release any evil Alicorns this time.


A question that is still unanswered that I think needs to be answered: how did the prophecy about the stars helping Night Mare Moon come to be?


The Stars have ALWAYS been a thing that has bugged me that the show never...DID anything with. It just seemed like such a weird thing to specifically include and then just never do anything with it.


I thought when you mentioned Grogar aiding Nightmare Moon, that he escaped too, but was dropped somewhere else and had the sense to stay hidden, but this theory is way better


That's a really interesting story you got there. Although my only counterpoint would be that I don't think they thought about this from the first episode of season 1? I mean they weren't even expecting the success of MLP back then, so did they really planned the S9 from that far?


Actually, I'm kind of confused about something. When I see the videos of season 9 spoiled (well, some part of it), it actually reveals who Grogar was. Its actually Discord, so how did Grogar bail Nightmare Moon when he (Discord) is already been turn to stone in some periods of Nightmare Moon's banishment? If you could have a theory of what is going on that's making sense, thank you so much.


Yay another cool theory so happy to know that you’re doing theories more often now<br>Love you Brony Notion ❤

Yay another cool theory so happy to know that you’re doing theories more often now
Love you Brony Notion ❤


The fact that gutsy magic is still active is a great point. I smell a red hearing. I think somehow Grogan is still trapped. But if my theory is true who the heck is posing as him? Discord? Idk,  I am brainstorming right now. Great video, compadre


I agree with all of this except for one thing... Grogar never left his prison in the stars, he is still there. You’ll see why I think that in the final episodes. I saw spoilers so I won’t say too much...


once again an awesome theory

the mlp universe has so much potential with all its mythological and magical elements and your videos really explore this beautifully


If Grogar really did help free Nightmare Moon, wouldn't it be cool to see him try and bring her back? That would be an epic finale!


Whoa! Wicked theory! Dr. Wolf does make a point too. When Cozy Glow drained all the magic, it must’ve been enough so Grogar can break free! Then,  he could gather the best looser baddies and then, combining all their magic, they can defeat the Mane Six! Ooohhh! I can’t wait to see how this goes!


Another thing, in the image you display at 9:41 (and other times), the beige lines on Grogar's nose are also in the shape of the Aries symbol.


Question is, who freed Grogar from the stars? Like how did he return?


Such a fascinating idea.
WELL DONE BRONY NOTION!
You have done something i thought near impossible.... You've satisfied me.


You're theory still works even after the events of the season finale.


Wait wait wait, if cozy glow drained all the magic out of EQUESTRIA, then how did it affect grogar's banishment in the STARS? We've seen proof that there is, in fact, a place beyond Equestria. The badlands. Who is to say that Gusty the great cast the banishment spell in equestria? Even so, constellations move around the world's skies, which would make your theory innacurate. Gusty the great may be dead, but his magic, in fact, is forever. And with all that time in the sky, being as powerful and seemingly smart as grogar is, why would he release nightmare moon if he said that he saw good win over and over? Would he have taken the risk that if nightmare moon had transformed into luna, another enemy (a powerful alicorn at that) could have stood against him?


We're in the endgame now.

Seriously though, Im interested too see how all this ends and what we make of the final give or take 8 episodes left of the series.


Actually, there are so Manny spoilers of season 9 finale.. And grogar is actually never escape in the first place...at all.. Grogar in those eps is just Discord who pretended to be grogar to improve Twilight's confidence at ruling equestria... So yeah.. Grogar is still alone up there..

CloudieMegami say spoiler or delete comment


There's just one thing I must do, check every sky night scene in MLP to find Grogar prison.


When a unicorn doesn't have there cutie mark then they still have magic of a certain colour yet when the 2 sisters switched cutie marks , the colour of the magic changed. How does the universe know to give for example sweetebelle green magic if she doesn't have a cutie mark


Ah, I remember my old plans for a fanfiction in which the four stars were actually ponies. Ah, those where the times... The fanfiction would have probably sucked had I actually written it but at least I could have gloated about thinking about it earlier. Such a shame...


Well now it makes sense . Grogar is still a constellation it was just discord forming the plan have you seen season 9 episode 24?


Why haven't the writers explored other species such as Diamond Dogs, Zebras, etc? Such an interesting world wasted.


Cool theory! Wait....how did Nightmare Moon’s face even get imprinted on the moon?


Yay I love your theroys<br>They are so clever and they are so much creative than all of mine combined

Yay I love your theroys
They are so clever and they are so much creative than all of mine combined


just wait, in the final episode twilights gonna say something that debunks the whole theory, like, "Grogar?! But I thought Gusty the Great banished you to the world through the mirror!" because they ALWAYS do this!


Could u think about a theory video 4 Cozy Glow?  About how such a young pony could become so corrupt & what might have led 2 this? 😱 u’d do SUCH a stellar job on this Brony Notion!!!


I just had a thought about luna's banishment to the moon. In the song the moon rises starswirl was in it watching luna turn into nightmare moon watching as she wanted her subjects to love her just as much as they love celestia,  Ik it was a fan made song but did starswirl send the pillars and the pony of shadows to limbo before or after the banishment of luna ? Any thoughts ??


I’m kinda confused because I don’t know why grogar would want to aid in nightmare moon’s escape, I thought he want to take over equestria himself, not let nightmare moon free.

Maybe I sound stupid idk :-)

It’s nice to see notion and drwolf collabing wasn’t expecting that one


amazing theory as alway notion keep up the good work :)


If you watched the next few season 9 episodes grogar was actually discord that if twilight could beat all of them she would have the confidence to take leadership of being a princess. Later in the episode Luna Celestia and discord turn them all into stone!!


Part 2: what if timber wolves 🐺 be the spirit of forests?


i dont know if thats what they're going for or not (mlp writers are really tricky to pinpoint sometimes), but i personally buy it!


I think we need to know the origins of Chrysalis and Cozy Glow. We need to find out where those two came from. But Grogar may have a connection to all the villains until Twilight become an alicorn. Since I know who Chrysalis and Tirek are. I do know the true identity of Cozy Glow. I think Cozy Glow is actually Illy the Imp from Magerblutooth's Diamond and Dazzle comic series. I predict at the end of MB's comic, Illy will be imprisoned in Tartarus were he meets Tirek and became pen pals. As for Illy becoming Cozy Glow, I have to dig deeper and see if it was a potion or some other ancient magic that turns the imp into a pony. I also predict that Grogar will retrieve the bell and lead an army of villains to battle Twilight and friends. We will have to wait and see what the final episode will hold.


I've watched the finale and I'll say one thing Groger didn't come out to be who he seems so think on that but groger IS real it's that he isn't who he seems to be in pony vil..


I also have a theory that Celestia is a villan(ish).
PS:this contains most of your theories.
As you said star swirl may have created alicorns or maybe brought them back like the alicorns kingdom had vanished which may have brought the disharmony in equestria and the rest of you theory that he made Celestia and luna alicorns.

When luna became nightmare moon Celestia vanished her to the moon maybe after gorgar
was vanished to the
stars. Then your theory.
Now we skip to when the tree of harmony was killed.
As the tree was destroyed the elements broke but only in the pony world. The human world still had them as crystals: The fact the were seven may prove that sunset is a alicorn. Sunset was originally going to be twilight but ended up bad and going to the human world. At friendship games she is shown as a alicorn princess-human. So technically she ready but since she doesn't go to the pony world Celestia can't transform her to be the 4th princess so she basically gave up on sunset . Now flash comes in. He passes the info to sunset but at the same time gives info to both Celestia's and maybe star swirl about the pony and human world like they might have been looking or planning something. This escalates that Celestia knew that the elements will break so she needed a back up for just in case. As shown in everfree the crystals were used for bad indicating that they are both harmony and disharmony element that only exist in the human world. This also meant that there is a 7th element also only in the human world. All of this links to celestia so she might of planned gorgars possibly escape. That's it.:)

i call it the super theory. Also I'm a 12 girl who like theories. bye.


So the mlp finale was leaked last Sunday so there will be spoilers in this comment.

Grogar WAS a living being at some point in Equestrias history. Gusty The Great must've banished him to either the ether or like you said the stars and became the constellation Aries or maybe an unknown place we dint know about. But like seen in the finale Discord pretended to be Grogar.  Maybe Grogar did help Nightmare Moon escape. I'd like to think of Grogar as like an all seeing god. An ancient being with unlimited resources and power. Maybe hes like the master and everyone down below is like his puppets. Setting up and making villains to destroy Equestria. Mlp lore is so fascinating and I wish the show explored more of the lore sometimes. Like with Grogar or Discord and Draconeqi. So basically I think Grogar is, maybe most likely the constellation Aries and he's been helping villains and stuff. Maybe hes just a legend, a myth a foals tale told to filled to scare them. Or maybe Grogar was real and was banished to some unknown place.


Finally, someone addresses the stars! Great theory, Notion!

(Poptropica Poseidon oof)


I have a theory that will blow everyone's mind.

Discord is Grogar!

Discord helped Tirek absorbs all magic!

Discord was there when Chrysalis captured everyone

Discord! Was in the school before so he should of met Cozy glow

When Grogar says he's been watching everyone fail he was watching as Discord! Maybe Discord was trying to get trust from the main six and lets be honest the three villans don't like friendship and Grogar mentions he has seen what friendship can do! Discord have seen what friendship can do!! So maybe Discord is Grogar!


He could be a constellation<br>Discord was “Grogar”

He could be a constellation
Discord was “Grogar”


was it ever really mentioned that Gusty banished Grogar? Didn't she just take and hide his bell?


i think this is accurate.. it would make since that he would be Arias and aid in NM's Escape but then it formulates anouther question...  <b>HOW</b> How would he be able to aid when he is traped himself? ik magic but how would he get the magic to aid in her excape? did he have power up there? or did someone give him that power to help?

i think this is accurate.. it would make since that he would be Arias and aid in NM's Escape but then it formulates anouther question...  *HOW* How would he be able to aid when he is traped himself? ik magic but how would he get the magic to aid in her excape? did he have power up there? or did someone give him that power to help?


Doesnt the alicorn from the other part of equestria turn  unicorn or pegasus into an alicorn which make them seem the same even before they are turn that dont have wrinkles like granny smith and never age up?


Grogar's not what you think, but it's a good theory nonetheless!


If Growgar is Aries then who will be the next zodiac sign villon? And if there is a spirit of chaos and of harmony if there are other spirits, like Growgar can be the spirit of evil or something vanished in to the stars?

Hey remember that i said growgar is the spirit of evil what if he is the spirit of creation. Lets see Growgar created pony's and monsters Gusty the great was angry at Growgar for creating the monsters so she steals the bell and vanish him then you know, when he escape he what to have his revenge🤔

Sagitarius is a centaur -> Tirek
Taurus is a bull -> Iron Will

All "human" constelations can be swapped by ponies (or variants):
Gemini are twins -> Flim & Flam
Aquarius is a "trap" ->  Chrysalis
Virgo is a maiden -> Cozy Glow


But according to ep 25 of this season it is proved that Grogar is actually Discord


This theory good possible be true however the final episode of season 9 has been realise with English sub titles and discord was grogar well pretending to be grogar


I’ve seen the finale

That’s all I’m gonna say


Before I watch this video, I wanna say that I'm thankful you aren't dead LOL This could be a very interesting theory!


In the last three episodes Discord is actually revealed as Grogar XD 😂


Seeing this after watching the leaked last episodes makes me feel wierd


wait if grogar took all the villans why not chrysilas?? I need your thoughts on this.Because shes the  queen  ok was the queen and she knows working together


When you have seen the series finale episode and know your wrong about grogar. Hahaha...


maybe grogar  was banished to his own hid out and hes still stuck :3


It’s a really good and realistic theory.


I have a theory on that Crystal ball that Grogar has.

Its the eye of that Cyclops Aremasti from The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone. >:)


4:28 At this point I just went galaxy brain, imagine the nerves one should have to dig up that!


Feligami Adrizoe RyuArgos RyukoNoir Sugarsock TOH


I had an ad right before this video and was EXTREMELY confused because it said something about M17+ and something about violence and sexual themes... I then realized it was an ad and not the video, thankfully.


You know that Discord was pretending to be Grogar, right?


Grogar is a Ran but not goat and his also a Necromancer with power more than 1.000 army so he is more powerful than Tirek,Discord and Starlight. Real Grogar is alive after the end of season 9 so he is the only one villain that Hasbro let him alive so that mean, that Grogar is imortal and he can't die.


But in Season 9 Episode 24 we find out that Grogar is just Discord in Disguise


Eh, now we know that Grogar didn't break free


Can you still doing theory’s even though Mol has ended?


WARNING

Grogar is a fraud. Discord pretended to be him. We got robbed of a finale. Grogar was being built as some Unicron villain. Jim Miller fucked up.


Spoiler warning in episode 23 of sesson nine grogar is actualy Discord in disguise but the real grogar is realy gone <br>Oh and this is canonn cause Go to Md tanzim and use the episode link for episode 23 witch is a 2 parter

Spoiler warning in episode 23 of sesson nine grogar is actualy Discord in disguise but the real grogar is realy gone
Oh and this is canonn cause Go to Md tanzim and use the episode link for episode 23 witch is a 2 parter


Wasn't it revieled that Grogar was Discord at around the end?
And that he wasn't real??
Or he is real but Discord took advantage of the Grogar thing???
IDK????

Amanda Do NOT EVERYONE has seen the finale, not everyone watches a leaked version so say spoiler or delete comment


Heads up brony notion the season of magic of friendship is coming to a end 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢


That poptropican Poseidon just killed me!


Um not to spoil anything but I know you are going to bring this theory back up... when the season finale starts...


This guy is like the mlp version of shane dawson


Also generations old and new can watch cause Grogar was in the 80s series


Did y'all know my Little pony ended 4 days ago😭I can't believe what twilight is now"the ruler of Equestria"

Technically the ending was leaked... It still isn't officially over.


But in the last episodes of my little pony cozy glow and the others know how to use grogar's bell and used on grogar when he loses his magic he turns into discord and then confess to the mane 6 that he free cozy glow and the others and pretend to be grogar so grogar is discord not the real one


and btw that star pattern was Arise's star pattern!😐


Why do all the male villians have white eyebrows? Discord, Tirek, Storm King, Grubber, now Grogar have em. And pony one Sombra  and Pony of Shadows (Stygian), greyish coats. Even the eyes in a yellow way, Tirek's pupil and Discord's Iris... or is it a Hasbro thing like Decepticon purple theme.


I'm really confused cause discord was inside the stone but grogar up the sky? Discord was grogar @-@


No because 'Grogar' was stuck in stone when nightmare moon escaped. Oops, spoiler!


Also, you've seen Gravity Falls before? I'm shocked!


What if Grogar is behind every dark ebtity in mlp<br>Like nightmare moon, the pony of shadows and Sombra

What if Grogar is behind every dark ebtity in mlp
Like nightmare moon, the pony of shadows and Sombra


just done watching the last episode

its hard to see my life end


<b>like when you open the microwave door right when it beeps</b>

*like when you open the microwave door right when it beeps*


7:00 plot point, discord was gorgar this hole time


what if grogar was the constelation and he just know of nightmare moon prision when twilight talk about that with celestia


The season 9 is not the final season <br>There is a clip that twilight said these 6 will continue our mission in episode 25 season 9

The season 9 is not the final season
There is a clip that twilight said these 6 will continue our mission in episode 25 season 9


or Grogar is still trap in the star, and it was Discord preten to be Grogar... just me who think that?

Bravediamondcat that comment you gave is probably like 100% bullsheet, there are like 0 things pointing towards it being you know who so i bet you actually seen the leaked thing and im 100% sure you know what will happen, besides if you suggest that the thing i confirmed with saying spoiler or delete comment you shouldnt immediately shift the blame, still i say say spoiler or delete comment

@Ebiwee Not a Weebie wait what I said is true!? how the next episodes is't out in french or english yet... if any one given spoiler is you! by saying I said a spoiler when I clearing just add to the theory,  meaning you the one who wanted to give a spoiler but does't know how, so you trying to find someone who added to the theory and f she/he is right, you will said there giving a spoiler while it was you!

Bravediamondcat say spoiler or delete comment


The Last Crusade showed us a globe in Cheerilee's classroom, so their planet must be round.


I think there is a 7th element of harmony for past villans


5:43 "Darn it Newton, get out of my videos!"


Princr Orion helped Luna out from the moon he is Luna younger brother he control the stars


Weren’t there leaks about the last episode 5 days ago?


So, if someone is not lazy, can it make for me a speed run story of what happen from season 1 to the final seazon in mlp? I didnt gave a chance to watch all and i cant find them, sooooo, please, someone explain me bc idk so good the story (well, luna and celestia is the most interesant story)


Theres only one answer to this...... DISCORD IS GROGAR!!


Pls do a vid on the last episode once it’s no longer like a spoiler caution


Don't worry i dont say any spoilers but, is sad see all this nice and very good theories only to see that stupid thing they do with Grogar, Maaan that character was really intimidating and have a very good background, only to do... THAT!!  AARRRGHH!!


THATS NOT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HER NAME 2:31


The grogar you see now it's a fake the real grogar died that's discord I know this because I kinda got a sneak peak because I was searching for the ending and poof hehe


I’m not giving spoilers but I’ve seen the last episodes your not ready and well you’ll see 😏


People that already watch Mlp final episodes : um actually...


except spoilers

 grogar isn't grogar thanks to that finale leak :^)

Numbrero Time good you did spoiler alert


Theory : he is right Dr wolf and you lol!


Rip the brony notion-oh wait he is alive


are you gonna do a music of grogar and cozy glow in the same type of the other


Hey sir. I'm new to your channel? Spoiler alert: I'm kidding I'm not going to spoil anything


this has been shut down due to the leaked footage of grogar being discord


i think grogar was setenced to eternity to the DIFFRENT aqureius in mlp was the HELLISH ver


Happy almost fall!have you seen my little pony runaway rainbow?


All grogar theory's are wrong as there is no grogar


I just saw an episode review by DRWolf001 before clicking on the notification for this video!


He doesn't know yet..... i wont spoil anything


Ok, don't listen to what I said. I didn't get the full context of the finale.


Brony I'm sorry to spoil you but go check out mlp season 9 ep 24 some of them is short so yeah  bye.


Yeeesh. Knowing the finle of season 9... ooooofff


Its not really grogar because discord pertended to be grogar


Oof the new episode<br>Deletes this theory


But i thought discord is growgar and the real growgar is Death or sth


Spoilers <br>Grogar is discord in disguised


dr wolf ....
dr milk ...
DR STONE!!

OTAKUS !!


This theory is not right , just watch the last mlp episode ever (discord)


Grogar is discord I saw the other episodes


SPOILER

Ok anyway but discord IS grogar

SPOILER

Ok anyway but discord IS grogar


your theory is wrong im so sorry (cries)


But grogar is dead. Its discord disguised


Have you any other social Platform? Like Instagram or sth (Please Not facebook😥)


I wanna draw ur oc lol I've been subbed for so long but I've never done it


Did start swirl Help gusty the great vanis Grogar


Oh believe me, I moderated the Livestream comments and deleted at least 100 spoiler messages.


Too bad that the theory is irrelevant since Grogar doesn't exist(I hope I pissed someone off)

Steven Wood
Oh he does discord was just pretending to be him.
He does exist but that wasn’t him is all.
He’s thousands of years older than discord himself and he was legend when tirek was a kid.


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo and I oop and I oop and I oop grogar  and discord are similar kinda oOOOOOooOOOoooOooo new theory discord and grogar are related in some way or the same thing...


I may not be fast
I may not be slow
But when I see u I click fast

Idk


I saw the last episodes....
It isn't true....

!Spoiler!

Discord is Grogar


What happen if  getter robo vs mlp oh will win


I don’t have a YouTube channel yet but I think soon


Why why why why why please tell me why the bell is so importent


Just as amazing as ever. I always love watching your videos. The theories always change the way i look at the show. Keep up the awesome work!!


This is a really fun theory, but I think you’ve forgotten something. Grogar told the other villains that he has spent millennia gathering power. My impression was that he spent years finding magical artifacts and making sure his magic grew stronger. How could he do that if he was banished to the stars?


I like this theory very much. The only (tiny) problem I see is that the stars aiding her escape is clearly four stars, and the constellation is five on Twilight's dress.

Not much of a problem, but still a problem.


Thank God Dr. Wolf was here. If he weren't part of this, I would have thought this theory ridiculous. But that Cozy Glow thing makes sense.


Rockhoof told that he was able to send Ursa Major to sky and make her costelation. So i guess what was acomplished by brutal force could easily be done by magic of someone like Gusty :3


Wait,but how was he able to all the sudden free nightmare moon?just because her curse was starting to go away,doesn't mean he could use his magic to free her....and also,how is space part of equestria?if cozy glow used magic to almost take all the magic in equestria,why would it effect something not confirmed to be part of equestria?

Loved the theory btw!


But the problem of all of this is that he stated himself during his first appearance that he was in hiding... Not trap in the stars.


My thought is the stars were alicorns like celestia and luna perhaps the ones from the journal of the two sisters, they help in times of need to fafill a purpose, like the istari and valar from the sillmarillion, sorry about my spelling, but the stars in my theroy are the alicorns that represent the forces of the world well except the sun and moon. Fantastic theroy.


What if Grogar is still in the stars? What if the layer he was able to bring the other villians to is actually his star prison


if your theory is correct than logically if grogar had intended on freeing himself like how he freed nightmare moon he had no intention on including cozy glow in his plan but if cozy was responsible for accidentally freeing him it only seems fare that grogar show his appreciation for freeing him by offering revenge upon the mane 6 as well as his original plan must've only consisted of chrysalis, sombra, and tirek he probably had no intensions to include cozy glow until she freed him when spells were the first things to go in her plan


NO, WAIT, Grogar knew where his bell was cuz in, Season 9, Episode 8, Grogar clearly stated that he needed cozy glow, tirek, and chrysalis to go get his bell from that mountain, but dr. Wolf said when cozy glow drained all the magic it gave him enough time to escape before the young 6 beat her, but then you said thaf Grogar, didnt know where the bell was hidden so he didnt have enough time to get it, but AGAIN, he clearly says where the bell is, and send cozy glow, tirek, and chrysalis to that mountain to get it, wouldn't he know where it is and get his bell back before the young 6 beat cozy glow!!!


You and Dr. Wolf have definitely had a rocky friendship.


hello this is a minor detail and since the mlp universe is mythical, it might not even matter. But, what would happen to the constellation Aries after grougar came back down to earth? Would it stay in the sky as a reminder of prison? Or would it disappear signalling to grougar’s return?


Discord was conscious when he was banished and somehow nightmare moon also knew she was banished for 1000 years but how would he know about anything else if he xould get just the smallest spell to look at the earth it would mean that the thing stopping him from going back is to weak to keep him in<br>Maby when he came back to earth he just search everything he missed and maby talked to nightmare moon when she was there

Discord was conscious when he was banished and somehow nightmare moon also knew she was banished for 1000 years but how would he know about anything else if he xould get just the smallest spell to look at the earth it would mean that the thing stopping him from going back is to weak to keep him in
Maby when he came back to earth he just search everything he missed and maby talked to nightmare moon when she was there


I watched the finale and....well ull see for yourself. Still a very interesting theory


There was a comic where all the stars in luna's/nightmare Moon's mane were people she moidered


So... if magic was taken away from equestria and grogar escaped... and when magic was restored... shoudn't he go back to BEING THE  STARS? Cause magic was restored!


I don't know where the real Grogar is, but the Grogar we know isn't the actual Grogar.  I got exposed to the leaked episodes.


If discord, nightmare moon and sombra hade 1000 years before the banishing spell was weak then it means that they all hade to have been banished with the same spell and power that means sombra was banished by the elements of harmony, you can also see in all of thier banishes... RAINBOWS


... I watched you ALL the time 3 years ago. And then like your videos were wiped off the earth and now you just randomly popped up on my recommended.... I LOVE THIS


All of us thought you died XD and sorry to burst your bubble but i watched the episodes before the season finale of season 9 and DISCORD was GROGAR the entire time!!!!


Even if I am outakuo I still watch MLP an I love your theorys and the show


Spoiler warning:

Discord was Grogar all along,  so I guess the story with the bell was a lie.


Wow I never thought of that, cool theory!


I watch you when i’m bored,<br>I love your videos

I watch you when i’m bored,
I love your videos


Thanks for the red circles in a thumbnail, without them, I wouldn't understand the title.


What if the astrological signs were the main six elements that’s why if the elements of harmony were destroyed the elements still lives on because the stars are still alive. But I’m pretty sure that’s just my big imagination and not a theory to be proven


A question sure maby he knew it would only last 1000 years bit how did he put that in the book?


YOU NEED TO SEE EP 24/25 FROM SEASON 9!!!!


So exited for it to premiere I love these vids


Wait...<br>Then why isn't Nightmare Moons evil half comming out every few seasons?

Wait...
Then why isn't Nightmare Moons evil half comming out every few seasons?


2:43 maby it's the fact that the magic can't reach earth because it's to far


SPOILER ALERT!

But grogar was discord and discord was a stone statue that time? I don't get it😭


Definitely not a flat earth if it was gravity wold work completely different from the show


This theory is good but it can't be true! Because (SPOILER COMING!)...

Grogar is DISCORD! An he only did all of this to prove to all the ponies of Equestria that Twilight deserves to be the next leader!
If you don't believe me, go check it out.


Well I mean later it’s revealed that Grogar was actually discord in disguise so....


Hey did you know Tartarus was actually we're Zeus put his enemies at


i think you are right.This is best theory you made


you see the world from a very special and different way, Because you're TOTALLY AMAZING!!!!!!!!!


Brony notion: talks about stars and the sun<br>Me: but the sun is a star.

Brony notion: talks about stars and the sun
Me: but the sun is a star.


Ok when almost all the Magic was sucked out bye cozy glow and that when grocery got out how come he didn't escape when terik sucked all the magic for himself?????


Why doesnt your thumbnail look like a Game Theory Thumbnail you had such a good streak!


well..... good theory but it is wrong, i'm not gonna spoil the final episode of MLP season 9 but you'll find out everything then<br>(if anyone replies to this comment with a spoil for brony notion i swear to celestia you will regret it)

well..... good theory but it is wrong, i'm not gonna spoil the final episode of MLP season 9 but you'll find out everything then
(if anyone replies to this comment with a spoil for brony notion i swear to celestia you will regret it)


. Looks at video. Hmm. Interesting. .clicks. .watches for hours. Yeah that fun!