does that mean discord is the tree of disharmony

But Imagine if Discord was a tree tho
He'll be chopped up
He'll Regrow
He'll have to suffer the same thing the Tree of Harmony had been through
(Wait a second he'll have elements of chaos and have people embodying them)
NO DISCORD NO

Doubt it the tree of harmony was planted the spirit was made because of that same with discord also when the elements the where destroyed the spirit didn’t die when discord was being a bit in order he was nearly destroyed

"I would like to be a tree tree tree tree" XD that's so old

Omg maybe he has his own tree the tree of harmony the tree of chaos XD LOL 😂 HAHA 🤣

what about the tree of chaos look the world can not function with out good or evil .and the middle of that is ultimate chaos combined by the two

but thanks to fluttershy he learned the way of friendship so he cant possibly be the tree of disharmony

I mean, he does kinda look like a tree, his horns and hands like branches and his tail and feet(hooves?) like roots.

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more like his physical body is, coz he can turn into pure spiritual essence of chaos

I think that the everfree forest as a whole is the tree of disharmony (I know it s a forest not a tree but same thing) but thats just what I think

OMG THERE MUST BE A TREE OF DISHARMONY IF THERE IS A SPIRIT OV CHAOS

@°•Lunatic•° I was being sarcastic iam sorry

@sunaira hasan No need to be sassy and rude, It's not your theory

Could you imagine if we actually saw an episode on that 🤩


Irrelevant to this but I’ve got a theory circulating Luna, Discord and the Elements. So Discord got turned into stone by Celestia and Luna when they used the Elements on him and Luna/Nightmare Moon got sent to the moon by Celestia when she used the Elements on her. Here is my theory, how did the spell that sent NMM to the moon not last as long as the spell that turned discord into stone even though both had the elements used on them. What bugs more is that NMM came back quicker than discord even though she got sent to the moon way after Discord got turned into stone. I’m not sure if it has anything to do with the 4 stars that set NMM free or that discord got set free because of Sweetiebell, Scooterloo and Apple bloom fighting which caused chaos but if my theory is right, Discord would of been set free way before NMM came back as the spell that turned him into stone obviously was temporary. Plus whilst being in the Canterlot Gardens for so long, wouldn’t have there been so much more ponies that caused chaos by arguing and all that would of set him free

This kind of branches into the theory of Tirek, Crysalis and that other one being turned into stone by Celestia, Luna and Discord. Discord got turned  into stone by the elements whilst the 3 got turned into stone by discord and the princesses which leaves a question in theory. If the spell caused by the elements was temporary, would the spell caused by discord and the princesses would be also temporary or would it have some different effect.


But since the tree was destroyed wouldn't Discord also be destroyed? Like you said, the tree has it's own "spirit", which could be similar to a soul of a living thing, like Discord. So, shouldn't Discord's soul be out there, somewhere?


I just rewatched this and remembered that discord actually means a lack of harmony


Well, I guess Grogar is the father of all mythology.

Because nearly every combo animal in that show is from some sort of mythology.


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What if he was a changeling that over used his power?  Changelings have gotten so adorable .


Really, to give you a clue, you've still got a knot in there. Look closely, Saw.


Discord being created by Starswirl could be explained by the thought of him “incubating”, maybe his creation was gradual and over time??


Maybe his spirit was somehow created, but he had no physical form. So he decided to create something that suited his personality. Taking inspiration from other creatures.


Discord is literally called the spirit of chaos and disharmony in the episode he was introduced in!


Star swirl created him and left him with someone to take care then he got in the limbo...Discord grew up but chose the wrong path and then once decided to rule equestria and the rest you know.


according to google, discord is apparently eons old so it'd be impossible for starswirl to create him


after the last appearance of starswirl ,maybe starswirl hid away and slowly made progress on discord but suddenly when he was almost finished ,discord ran away and made an attacked.


He seems like hes in a lot of emotional pain looking at how he acts


I would like to see Discord and Harmony interact.<br>that would be fun.

I would like to see Discord and Harmony interact.
that would be fun.


My theory: Celestia and luna's parents wanted to make an weird pet, they created discord but accidently poured in a chaos potion and also accidently dropped an evil potion and that's how discord came to be.


i would completely agree with this theory... BUT tirek knew about discord when he escaped tarterus. you could make the argument that tirek somehow knew what was going on in equestria from his prison but he didn't know who twilight was so.....


In your head it makes sense but this is very false due to the fact that tirek and scorpan came to equestria before discords rule. Tirek already knew of discord and i doubt their are news papers in tartarus. So discord was alive when star swirl is not in limbo and the princesses were young and i doubt star swirl created discord i feel like the grogar theory is the best


I actually disagree since I believe Star Swirl DID create Discord after planting the tree of Harmony knowing that Harmony can't exist without Chaos and Chaos can't exist without Harmony. He wanted to make Discord to be good but something went wrong. But Star Swirl wouldn't have known since Discord was a baby. But how does Discord exist without the tree? Simple. The spirit still exists. But I also believe that after all the mane six passed away,Discord would be gone since the elements are inside the mane six.

This is just my theory and besides the show has ended.


So you know how discord lives in that chaos galaxy thingy?? How I thought he came to be was that he was born in that chaos galaxy thing before it was so chaotic, and then he took over it and made it all chaotic, his powers slowly growing in the process. After a while, he got bored of the chaos world (but still lived there obviously since he was born there and it was like his own universe), and became strong enough to travel to other worlds. He went to the pony world, and seeing that it was very normal and not chaotic, he decided he was going to take over it as well, but the pony world had magical reinforcements, and defeated him. That’s what I thought could have happened


I still believe Grogar was make DIscord. I can assume Grogar only use Discord as emergency card. In case Grogar can't conquer some region. He just order Discord to make chaos on that region so he can weaken it. After that, he can easily conquer it.<br>Another proof that DIscord is made by Grogar was, when Discord disguise as Grogar, he orchestrated it very well. It means he with Grogar for a long time. So, theory Grogar made Discord is highly possible.

I still believe Grogar was make DIscord. I can assume Grogar only use Discord as emergency card. In case Grogar can't conquer some region. He just order Discord to make chaos on that region so he can weaken it. After that, he can easily conquer it.
Another proof that DIscord is made by Grogar was, when Discord disguise as Grogar, he orchestrated it very well. It means he with Grogar for a long time. So, theory Grogar made Discord is highly possible.


I always thought discord was some sort of minor god. A trickster spirit of chaos and madness.


I think that discord was trapped away but then when Starswirl disappeared the spell started to weaken and when the spell finally broke that's when discord tried to take over Equestria


Maybe at the beginning of the times, he was in his dimension playing cards or anything ... he get bored and came to our dimension

this is probably accurate, it sounds like something he’d do

Bisma Pendowo i think they mean Tirek and Scorpan

Wait was discord power by chaos if he were playing card then he will be gone

Or he could have been spying on the ponies

salchipapa 975 As a Star Trek fan, this is probably accurate


Since discord loves chaos and is pure chaos, he would get bored without it. So, I think that like ying and yang has to be balanced, discord was created at the begging of the world but since Equastria is extremely huge, he's just been at other places and we haven't saw them yet.


I have an idea on what discord could’ve been doing between limbo and his first known appearance discord might as well nave been a baby draconiquist and that time he was growing like the tree and the royal sisters


In season 4 episode twilight’s kingdom part 1 when tirek saw discord he recognised him that he is discord. And this means that they met even before that. And this means they lived together back then. And this means discord lived in tirek’s kingdom all that time. Now the gap is filled. Make a theory on it.


I see things like this
The prime forces of the world of mlp are darkness, light, chaos and harmony. These take up physical forms or inhabit them. Some being have a small part of this e.g. small time antagonists or lesser characters, and others are more prominent. Unlike this, the beings formed by this power have innate control of it, such as Sombra clearly having dark magic, or discords powerful chaos magic. These beings exist purely to invoke their power, which makes me think that grogar may have been an emissary of darkness, and why sombre and the other villains were so impressed by him. In these powers, light and dark are subservient to chaos and harmony. This is why the main six can beat sombre or tirek, as their power is one rank higher than them, yet discord is treated as needing reform, because without the incarnation of chaos, then chaos will spread to others, or simply run wild.
Sorry for the long comment, but I like to use these power balance situations


Seeing the 2 spirits interact would be so entertaining, someone make this happen!


i do agree with the fact that grogar or starswirl making discord is not true, because you see, the where was he during that time is a huge deal. You see, If he was just laying back, then he would be long gone, because he wasn't spreading chaos, his pure essence. And if he was, then  the ponies would've definitely known.


Basically, he’s like a boggart, or a poltergeist, or a dementor. As long as chaos exists, so will he.


You should really read the comics for more info on discord’s past ! :)


just a random thing, after all this time i think we noticed the spirit of harmony cant die. If your theory is true, does that mean discord cant die to?


This could also be like Nightmare Moon and Luna. Or, Celestia and Daybreaker! They might not show, but are still there inside!<br>Maybe when Celestia does not want to do things, she try's to keep up her smile. But if she puts on a frown and her world turns down she can still fix it. So why not have a smile AND A frown? Just like Luna, if she got Nightmare Moon out of her system why still be scared of it coming out? Maybe because it can! Maybe this is another reason Starswirl made these two ponies Alicorn's, I have made a comment something like it. Maybe he saw the "spirit" of the darkness inside both of them! So because they are sisters and know each other VERY Well, He gave them both the amount of power to stop the darkness of coming out of one of the sisters. Day and night. Dark and Light. They put on a smile on the outside but a frown on the inside. This could also hint on to the theory about the "Spirits"! Celestia and Luna are the light, with Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon is the Darkness! (It may not be like yin-yang but I think it's a amazing concept the think about.)

This could also be like Nightmare Moon and Luna. Or, Celestia and Daybreaker! They might not show, but are still there inside!
Maybe when Celestia does not want to do things, she try's to keep up her smile. But if she puts on a frown and her world turns down she can still fix it. So why not have a smile AND A frown? Just like Luna, if she got Nightmare Moon out of her system why still be scared of it coming out? Maybe because it can! Maybe this is another reason Starswirl made these two ponies Alicorn's, I have made a comment something like it. Maybe he saw the "spirit" of the darkness inside both of them! So because they are sisters and know each other VERY Well, He gave them both the amount of power to stop the darkness of coming out of one of the sisters. Day and night. Dark and Light. They put on a smile on the outside but a frown on the inside. This could also hint on to the theory about the "Spirits"! Celestia and Luna are the light, with Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon is the Darkness! (It may not be like yin-yang but I think it's a amazing concept the think about.)


I like this theory, it makes sense. But the mention of Grogar got me thinking....<br>How did Grogar get so powerful? I mean, he's a blue goat with a magic bell that takes magic he can use. But how did he get his hooves on it? Did he make it? If so, how? If he didn't, who did? Does he have some sort of "inner magic" or something that made the bell? How is such an artifact so powerful? I have a lot of questions on the matter but I don't have the time to do research, maybe that would make a good video. But hey, what do I know?

I like this theory, it makes sense. But the mention of Grogar got me thinking....
How did Grogar get so powerful? I mean, he's a blue goat with a magic bell that takes magic he can use. But how did he get his hooves on it? Did he make it? If so, how? If he didn't, who did? Does he have some sort of "inner magic" or something that made the bell? How is such an artifact so powerful? I have a lot of questions on the matter but I don't have the time to do research, maybe that would make a good video. But hey, what do I know?


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Discord was stone for a really long time. He might be old you would never know.


It makes fluttershy and discords relationship in the end better as well because it shows that chaos and harmony can be a perfect union


Just saying, in the episode of where and back, Discord says ‘I haven’t walked that far in a million years’, so it will be a bit different.

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He is basically saying he has been alive more than a million years

maybe he was exagerating like we often does.  You know when we walk so long we start exagerating on the pain and how long it takes.

Discord is known for his over exaggeration at times

he says a millenia not million. therefore he said 1000 yrs.

He also emphasized how <b>ancient</b> he is when introducing Fluttershy to the Smooze.

He also emphasized how *ancient* he is when introducing Fluttershy to the Smooze.


I think Discord was orginally a pony a unicorn to be exact and he enrolled in Celestia's school of Gifted Unicorn's and then came the test to get into the school. Now Discord had fuse animals together but instead of fusing them together he fused them together with himself. He wasn't allowed in the school but the Princesses didn't know about Discord's powerful magic and spread chaos throughout Ponyville to show how powerful he really is and then it's back to the Princess put him in his stone prison so,on so forth. But this theory destory's the Grogar creating Discord theory.


As I was watching I was thinking what if when Starswirl planted the tree of harmony that Chaos magic created discord to even things out. Even though there is no trace of this happening it could be true.


Maybe he is from another dimension and got through into equestria. It has already been proven there are more portals. What about other worlds two?


I think discord was created by  starswirl And the tree of harmony after they planted the tree he did a secret experiment that made discord like he threw magic into every single animal in the world he can find at the time and then made discord out of that magic from every animal he can find after he let his set for 2 years because there must be a time where the pony of Shadows was alive and well not brought into limbo there must have been a time


Remember,celestial and Luna had to combine their powers to trap discord, as a statue


“Think about it like a balance”<br>Correction: “think about it like a tape diagram”

“Think about it like a balance”
Correction: “think about it like a tape diagram”


I think the reason discord didn't fall apart when his magic was tooken was because all those monster or unusuall beings where animals but together and seperate but discord is like a Frankenstein he was made with parts of creatures creating a new life organism but the rest weren't they were just upgraded animals or animals put together for example the snake tiger and goat they are just animals put together and so are the rest but discord was out together using animal parts not the whole body as in the show. (But of course this is just what I think I have done no research)


Discord is my favorite character, he always looks insane-


When you said alicorns came from another faraway land, I remembered a scene where Twilight was saying something and in the background two ponies that are abnormally tall, and supposedly according to Celestial ‘from a faraway land’ Even Celestial and Luna was bowing to them, both had unicorn horns and were wearing long garments covering their what I thought was ‘wings’ Hope that helped.

@sophia Hmm cant quite remember, might be before twilight got her wings, in the earlier seasons. They wee only background characters tho.

now i’m curious. do you know what episode or maybe season this is from?


I think the tree of harmony created discord not by stitching different creatures but by infusing chaos to a living base form which was discord’s base form and that resulted in creating discord


I think he is born by starswirl or Grogar  but he is like made by fusing together the DNA and stuff that makes a living  being of all the different stuff and then he was a product of this new unorthodox or unconventional method of birthing new form of life.but we haven't seen more of his type because starswirl or Grogar thought of it as useless or not so good to be living.and that it would ultimately be a problem for all.


My Theory: in a place full of flowers and animals and lots of ponies all the animals went chaotic they combined into discord

Fluttershy said discord is made out of chaos

You’re theory is also really good


Some thing doesn’t make sense when sobra took over again in season 9starswirl said “who do you think kept the ever free forest under control before the tree of harmony… but discord planted the seeds long after that. In the episode where he faded away it showed where discord live, in true chaos so could starswirl have made him and found out he was to dangerous so kept him locked up but later he found a way to escape I would really like to see a video on this the vid made me think


Wait!The star-swirl theory that he created discord could still be true because Discord was STILL creating Dis-harmony before Celestia and Luna may have discovered the tree.Celestia says that before We stood up to him he ruled with Chaos.He probably was growing far away from Equestria before he took-over so It does make sense a little bit.
The grogar theory..
Well discord couldn’t have split because he isn’t like any other magic animals we seen.They might not know what to seperate also From what I think Discord might’ve been faaar away from Equestria and probably had to grow and Discords reign couldn’t have been when the tree grew.

No because in the grand galloping galla where discord brought smooze and was jealous of tree hugger he said something along the lines of “u don’t think I have friends, I’ve been around for centurys”  AND he knew tireks father soo


my au: along time ago when the first hearts warming occurred (discord is about 4 or 5 idk all I know is that this was probably 4,000 BCE) the winda-gos attacked a land of discord's kind... <br>being the youngest at the time his parents tell him to run and, well. His family, friends, and kind died due to this. later chrysalis and celestia become his friends. But chrysalis's mother didn't like that she had a friend and soon took her heart and chrysalis convinced discord to create enough chaos to make celestia and the hole town mad at him without him knowing. Then the whole town started saying: beast, monster, freak, and so on. Soon celestia called him one of those things and this makes him insecure it all escalates from here. Also the REAL reason why discord joined tireck is because he started questioning whether the main six were really his friends. And let's not forget the obvious when he actually tried to reform the villians but didn't want to admit failure because he felt insecure. So he suffers from trauma and it gets even worse when chrysalis is turned to stone, he might look determined but he's dying on the inside.

my au: along time ago when the first hearts warming occurred (discord is about 4 or 5 idk all I know is that this was probably 4,000 BCE) the winda-gos attacked a land of discord's kind...
being the youngest at the time his parents tell him to run and, well. His family, friends, and kind died due to this. later chrysalis and celestia become his friends. But chrysalis's mother didn't like that she had a friend and soon took her heart and chrysalis convinced discord to create enough chaos to make celestia and the hole town mad at him without him knowing. Then the whole town started saying: beast, monster, freak, and so on. Soon celestia called him one of those things and this makes him insecure it all escalates from here. Also the REAL reason why discord joined tireck is because he started questioning whether the main six were really his friends. And let's not forget the obvious when he actually tried to reform the villians but didn't want to admit failure because he felt insecure. So he suffers from trauma and it gets even worse when chrysalis is turned to stone, he might look determined but he's dying on the inside.


Discord maybe was sent to that weird universe we see his house is in, by whoever created him. Cuz like, maybe they thought he was a bit too chaotic and would’ve probably ruined their plans. So he got Locked in, until he broke free, where he took over equestria the first time. Haven’t really thought this through so correct me if I’m wrong


i think both of ur theory’s may be able to exist at the same time. i like the idea of the yin and yang. the idea of opposing forces. it’s a balance within the entire universe. not just mlp but our own. and i think we can see that being reflected onto the plot of the show. we can see throughout the show that these representations of things through objects or pony’s (such as the elements of harmony and the mane six) are finite but the actual element of that is infinite. grogar may have created discord as the element of chaos just like the old pillars of equestria planted the tree of harmony. the creation both of these things grew into something else that will create something else just like something had to create the pillars and grogar. is the flow of the universe within yin and yang and the yin and yang within the flow.


your forgetting one thing  in the episode that discord was introduced he was a stone stague and the three ponies that are sweet belle applebloom and scootalo was fighting only then did he get out of the stone form


I know I'm late to say anything but if you read the book My Little Pony: FIENDship is magic in the tirek chapter you can see a grown discord while tirek was young.

well other theories states that there could have been other prototypes or representatives of chaos or harmony  before. That could very much explain  why there is a discord in the book, altho it might not have been as strong and disharmonized as discord now for the tree of harmony surely didnt existed. This also supports the video's theory that chaos creates forms when harmony creates forms and vice versa to combat each other example: Tree of harmony and discord.  I like this concept about yin yang,  chaos and harmony fighting each other until the ponies helped them to become balance and whatnot.

@Aaron Rine Yeah cause otherwise we have an interesting bit of MLP FIM lore going on there.

It's a shame the comics aren't Canon to the show

Why was discord in whatever the name of kingdom in the first place??


Discord is spirit of choas and disharmony of caurse, it matches with the spirit of harmony like yin and yang


This is a really good theory but one thing, I don’t think that’s the beginning of the timeline beacuse I’m pretty sure discord has been around for centuries like he said in the episode “ make friends but keep discord “


My theory is that Discord was a dragon but he tried to make himself into a alicron but things din't went so well...


Here us my theory about Discord. So we know that he is a dragquoniks, the head of a horse/pony (I do know wich one), one arm of a chicken the other of a bear, one leg that looks like a dragon egg to me and the other is a goat leg, to horns, one a deer and the other, a disfigured unicorn horn. I think that the evil goat man (I forget his name) made Dicord along with all the other magical creatures like the three headed dog and tee-reck the evil goat man would make them work for him by threatening them that they disappear like what you said, lol. By the time that the goat man was locked in the jail place, Celestia and unable would have already turned him to stone so he was contained. Then stare swirl did his stuff and got teloported to limbo (stare swirl in my thought had nothing to do with Dicord) then Diacord broke free or whatever happened the second time he was set out of stone and sent back. All the was up intil the main six come along and try to reform him


I think discord wasn't Made,but more likely just popped into existence


But- discord turned out to be Groger  in season 9, discord thought that if twilight faced villains she would be more confident about being ruler of equestria,


In conclusion:<br>Grogar is pretty damn old

In conclusion:
Grogar is pretty damn old


I think that discord was created by grogar because of how much he knew about him and he was there a long time because when you see him reading a book he had reading glasses every time he reads a letter or a book


Well now that discord is good… We would need two things to balance the chaos off. one for the tree of harmony one for discord.


Well it’s his first “known” appearance. He most likely was in power for a while and maybe he when into hiding for a while (like Frankenstein’s monster) he might have taken control when the royal sisters were young and they ran away. They seemed to have come from far away in that flash back. Just an idea


so the ying yang theory might applie to nightmare moon! shewas good but understood chaos and evil she took the risk and tried to be the balance but the choas and evil was on a bigger scale than good which could of cause nightmare mmon to be formed


My 2 thiries is discord was created far away and had to travel or he was quite young when he was created (he just took longer or shorter to grow.)


for the kroger timeline what if discord was hiding in his realm? I doubt anyone will see but think about it bc alot of the villians hid in their "homes" I may be wrong though.


May be clover the clever made discord in order to be good to protect Equestria from different problems but he became evil (= . It makes sense ain't it. She wanted to protect Equestria from the wendigos. At that timeline to this I think  discord may be a pony filled with magic but some magic of wendigos made him evil. By that time he may done some mischief in Equestria and realised so he wanted all the magic from Equestria.


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What if discord was a baby and he was growing up. His magic would be growing to and StarSwirl wouldn’t have seen him as a big threat.

What if that is true? What if Star Swirl thought he could make a new species and would raise him on his own teaching him the way of ponies hoping to make an even greater power than alicorns but he failed from being too busy?

@Sawtooth Waves this vid made my brain almost explode with the sheer amount of sence, thought and idea!!!!!!! So awesome÷!!!!! Have you thought of any thing else we could discuss?  I'm happy to debate here, any time. Up to you

Interesting possibility.. I'd think Star Swirl is smarter than that, but I like the thought of him making a baby discord!


Have you ever talked about your favourite MLP ships? If not, I would love if you did!


What if discord didnt enjoy his life? He might have known about this yin-yang situation, and thought if he destroyed the tree, it would destroy him as well. A suicide attempt, perhaps?


I think that the tree of harmony made him by mistake I mean look at him he is kinda like a pony the tree of harmony wanted to make a pony-like person but then made discord

The tree of harmony mistakenly added some chaos in him and he became evil mabye that is the caused that is my theory


The starswirl theory could be possible,bc what if...(Head canon)star swirl before banishing stigeon,created discord,the banishment was last minute so star swirl said that he will come back,but discord waited so long that he lost hope,and took over


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I was just forming the thought that the tree could have brought discord to existence... when 10 seconds later, you mentioned that your self


I really like that "Starswirl created Discord" idea, I might use that for some of my stories.<br>It could also be that Starswirl himself recognized that Yin-Yang theory too, and captured the Spirit of Chaos and gave it a physical form as Discord to balance out the Tree. Perhaps Discord may have even started out like the Tree did. Statue of Chaos, and Tree of Harmony. Seeing how easily ponies panic with the bunny stampede that happened in Ponyville, an abundance of chaos that came with a villain could have overloaded the Statue and created Discord, the Spirit of Chaos. The Tree never had this problem due to the Elements, but eventually ended up gaining its own spirit in response to Discord being his own thing, and in desiring a more balanced playing field, destroyed the Tree, allowing the Spirit of Harmony to start on it's journey of becoming like Discord. I see a potential new tangible Spirit of (Concept) on the horizon, that perhaps the last episode was unable to show us for some reason. Or did it show us by hiding it in plain sight?

I really like that "Starswirl created Discord" idea, I might use that for some of my stories.
It could also be that Starswirl himself recognized that Yin-Yang theory too, and captured the Spirit of Chaos and gave it a physical form as Discord to balance out the Tree. Perhaps Discord may have even started out like the Tree did. Statue of Chaos, and Tree of Harmony. Seeing how easily ponies panic with the bunny stampede that happened in Ponyville, an abundance of chaos that came with a villain could have overloaded the Statue and created Discord, the Spirit of Chaos. The Tree never had this problem due to the Elements, but eventually ended up gaining its own spirit in response to Discord being his own thing, and in desiring a more balanced playing field, destroyed the Tree, allowing the Spirit of Harmony to start on it's journey of becoming like Discord. I see a potential new tangible Spirit of (Concept) on the horizon, that perhaps the last episode was unable to show us for some reason. Or did it show us by hiding it in plain sight?

Ok, rereading this comment I noticed the discrepancy in "captured the spirit" and then going onto say that it was created. To specify, I was saying that Starswirl captured the spirit, and the overload of chaos caused it and the statue to fuse and become a living being, breaking from the shell of the statue, hence why the elements kept turning Discord into a statue, because that was how he originally was before the spirit fully accepted it's new form.

This also could work timeline wise<br>The Spirit of Harmony came to be in a time were ponies and other creatures were the most peaceful and HARMONIOUS they've ever been. The overload of Harmony lead to the creation of the Spirit, who chose to break free from what had become a prison, rather than a body.

This also could work timeline wise
The Spirit of Harmony came to be in a time were ponies and other creatures were the most peaceful and HARMONIOUS they've ever been. The overload of Harmony lead to the creation of the Spirit, who chose to break free from what had become a prison, rather than a body.


Even though is not a canon comic, it would not be the first time canon things are hidden inside of noncanon ones, so, straight to the point, Discord was present when Tirek's father argues with him because he was learning magic.


ok ok hear me out… i haven’t watched the whole video so idk if this is in it. so starswirl was celestia and lunas mentor before they began to rule.. but remember how discord tried to test twilight and her friends before she began to rule.. what if starswirl created discord in like a future sense? we’ve already seen that that he can time travel so what if before they went in limbo he traveled to the future, created discord to test the sisters to see if they were responsible enough to rule equestria. this would also explain why discord was one of the only villains celestia ASKED the mane 6 to reform, luna could be considered another because he was the closest thing and memories she had to her old mentor before he was released from limbo…


I always thought he came from his own dimension were there where other droconiquists before his people were killed by some mystery evil and when he came to equestria he worked with luna and celestia for a while but then some ponies refused to except him for who he was so they attack and in his fear filled retaliation he took it to far and the princesses for made enough at him that he believed they were never his friend in the first place so he got scared and was lonely and home sick so he tried to make equestria like home  (why celestia asked the mane six to reform him and why he reacted the way he did when he lost flutter shys friend ship)it also why he fades or does not seem to follow the same laws of physics as other i.e. his ghost and on top of that they said tirek was from a different world when he first showed up so when he or discord lose there magic they don't separate out into there different parts.

@~lizzie~ sorry  lot of typing and auto correct. Sorry again I'll work on it.

@Faith Miller i think you wanna be an author qhen you grow up and make 30 chapter books :/

You mixed up were and where in the beggining but great theory

It’s a great theory but I don’t think it’s true, it‘s rather funny cuz Discord is never scared 😒😒😒


I’m lowkey sad he’s not Starswirl still, but I’m still curious about who he is!


I just had a theory so I also think it’s because of the tree but as you said there has to be an opposite so when you showed the comment I thought if the tree of harmony has the spirt of harmony and has an opposite what if there was a tree of disharmony/chaos which has the spirt of chaos/disharmony also the tree of harmony has the elements of harmony so what if the tree of disharmony had the elements of disharmony but instead of 6 ponies controlling them it’s discord controlling them or them being his power source or the elements needing him to stay or like but it’s just like the elements of harmony they are the power source for the mane 6 or the tree of disharmony had the opposite of the mane 6 and their spirt is discord though I like my first one better to me it would make sense also let me add what if when the pillars planted the tree of harmony there was some kind of corruption that happened lead to the tree of disharmony growing and since we saw discord before the spirit of harmony maybe it was because discord didn’t need other’s controlling the power of the elements of disharmony he didn’t need to wait for someone but the spirt of harmony did because harmony needs people living together in peace with might be why it showed up later in the show but that’s just a theory


But what if star swirl did create discord, fount out it was a mistake, and used magic to seal him away, like the pony of shadows  but instead, star swirl being gone set discord free.


well according to one comic where Cosmos is around Discord existed before the sisters he said he comes to Equestria to have fun and make chaos and when he's not doing that he's in his own realm the twisted realm we see in the show, now we never see the show disprove this, nor do we see it prove it either, but I can see Discord being around for a long time, maybe Gorgar did make him and like he said in the comic he makes chaos but not in a cruel way that's Cosmos' thing


Sawtooth: “mystery begging to be solved”<br>My mind: “discord: pLeAsE sOlVe Me”

Sawtooth: “mystery begging to be solved”
My mind: “discord: pLeAsE sOlVe Me”


WAIT- what if Discord was a normal animal, but similarly to how normal ponies become alicorns, he became a <b>chaotic</b> mess of animals. Alicorns rule over something, ex: friendship, love, light, etc. what if discord ruled over chaos?

WAIT- what if Discord was a normal animal, but similarly to how normal ponies become alicorns, he became a *chaotic* mess of animals. Alicorns rule over something, ex: friendship, love, light, etc. what if discord ruled over chaos?


Your ideas of the show are very interesting sawtooth waves


Your so right But maybe discord WAS created by grogar with more powerful magic, like how the tree of harmony was created by starswirl AND his friends


My theory: DISCHORD CREATED STAR SWIRL! 😂🤣


My theory:

Discord could be created from all the chaotic things that was happening in equestria. Like all chaos and discord that happened created him, since we know that he is made up of chaos it would make sense if he was created by chaos.

True, but there would be no chaos without him. I think that this is probably the best theory yet.


In my head canon, he's Q from Star Trek. There's also the comic with the other draconeques.


Star swirl created him as a baby discorn so he raised so he grew and stars swirl  went to limbo and discorn came to the sister's he grew without star swirl so he was angry and went to the two sisters hooves


Harmony was created. You can't have harmony without chaos. Discord was created as a counterpart to harmony. Neither can truly exist without the other. Starswurl and the others could have created discord without even knowing just as they were entering limbo. Or harmony could have very well created discord itself. At this point we can assume harmony is some sort of living being, a spirit. That spirit could have very well split into two. Creating the very thing it needed so it could thrive. That's why we never see discord before starswirls enter into limbo and why it took a while for discord to show after that because he was just born he needed to grow and mature into the discord we know. And once he finally developed that's when he started reeking havoc and that's when we reach the point in history where the Princess defeat discord. And in doing so caused harmony to thrive and may have even gotten stronger


he's like the essence of chaos, so maybe discord has been dormant, and he was just playing around until he thought bigger, and messed everything up?


Damn I love the effects you created with the Yin-Yang in this video!!!
Also 11:45 was a blessing for my Fluttercord-obsessed heart :3 ❤


I think discord was born, not created because Triek mentioned that discord was his brother after stealing his magic. Then in season 9 discord says that Triek has a father, Lord Vorak. If Triek has a father and discord is Triek's brother then...... We have a simple explanation!


Interesting. I could see the contrasting nature.


My thoughts are that the pillars plant a crystal tree and also made creature name discord.


Woah! It’s funny because Discord used to be evil, and has always been the ‘Lord of Chaos’, and this video has 666 000 views at the time I’m writing  this!


That would be completely correct and an extra point, when you mentioned that discord would start disappearing when he doesn’t spread chaos, it also would explain the ‘yin and yang theory’.


There are a lot of reasons why it doesn't make sense for discord and star swirl to have any connections at all
1. If star swirl created discord tmand knew of his present threat then why who he and his team leave Equestria without stopping him first
2. If he created discord then he would no doubt ask about him when he and the others returned and after learning about everything that happened it wouldn't make sense for Star Swirl to not confront Celestia Twilight or discord himself about it
3. If Star swirl knew of discords power why would he banished himself and his friends to defeat the shadow pony instead of just tricking or negotiating to have discord deal with him, because then it doesn't matter if discord or the shadow pony wins either way that's one less threat to deal with
4. When discord pretended to have the Blue Flu he interrupted Twilight and Cadence at the Star Swirl museum, if he really did have history with star swirl then its very out of character for discord not to mess with the museum but when he was there discord showed no sign of any connection which would also be out of character since discord has never been good at hiding his feelings

The fact is there isn't actually any solid evidence to show that they have any connections but if they are then it just creates continuity errors since it would be in either of their character.


There is one thing I think about is a line in the song about discord:are we just your prey or a stepping stone for taking back the throne. Someone please help build on this


Wait in the first theory you said "where discord was between his creation to the concern of equestria"<br>in one episode there was a galaping gala that discord was invited and then he said that his plus one was an old friend from school

Wait in the first theory you said "where discord was between his creation to the concern of equestria"
in one episode there was a galaping gala that discord was invited and then he said that his plus one was an old friend from school


My thoughts are that Celestia and Luna might have made discord to even it all out and that might be how they know his name


In the comics(yes I know their canon is questionable) Discord is shown in Tirek's kingdom when Tirek was a SUPER edgy teenager and he seemed surprisingly un-chaotic. What if he existed before the tree, but he wasn't nearly as strong as he is now. That surge in power would drive him over the edge into his more insane state of mind and would link him to the magic more strongly explaining how he almost disappeared.

Though this doesn't explain how discord could survive his magic being taken away. If he is full chaos and losing that power by being orderly almost made him disappear, then why wouldn't losing that magic make him disappear as well? Honestly, I wish that one episode with him disappearing didn't happen, it seems to lock him into a set pattern which he really shouldn't be in. Ironically, he would probably be a better embodiment of chaos if he just decided to call himself that after gaining his power instead of being locked into it.


It is still possible that grogar made discord even though when the magic was sucked out of him discord didn't split into the many different animals that make up discord. In season 8 school raze star swirl's letter says that one the first day ponies lose there magic , the second day creatures and the third objects and by sundown no more magic. The creatures in tarterus lost their magic on the second day but not the magic that fused them together.   Twilight thought that magic fused the base forms of animals together and that there was magic inside the animals.       This is why I believe that discord still could have been made by grogar. He didn't willingly give up the magic inside him that  fused all the animals together.


Maybe discord was always there but in another universe and one day the tree of harmony guided him to ponyvill


This is a great question I don’t know maybe it was magic that brought him or maybe it was star swirls Magic it self


I think it was because since there are different tribes in eqestria so that’s why when the tree was planted then at the same time something happened with all the tribe leader’s like a strip of light coming towards the tree and then a small little discord was born and the reason for ALL is cuz discord looks like all the different tribes combined. But at that time he was small and couldn’t do anything so now I conclude that the tree and discord are technically brothers/sisters so they age at the same time cuz discord was formed at the same time and when the tree was fully grown then he was also fully grown. :)


I've just sort of thought of Discord sort of like Peeves from Harry Potter. No matter what you do you can't get rid of him permanently and they grow stronger with chaos and mischief. This would also sort of explain why Discords heart started beating when the crusaders where fighting and why he started fading. They feed and survive of their own and others chaos.


Can we just agree that any episode that Discord is in is a great episode!😃😁


Windagos are creatures that exist out of anger and disharmony they disappear without the said sources. Discord functions that way with discord makes me wonder the connections between the two


I came to this video trying to find what Discord ( the song by Eurobeat Brony) and MLP have in common bc I didn't watch enough MLP to understand anything. Lol


It's funny that Bill cipher is a very good similarity to discord but discord is a basically a god before creation never really have any interest in anything sort of like the gods of destruction not being before creation but not being really interested in anything until meeting mortals same for the case of discord meeting new interesting things to entertain a catastrophe level being


Very interesting, thank you for sharing! I personally think the creators of MLP didn't put too much thought into it when they created Discord lol, they just thought he'd make a cool villain, but if I had to try to find an in-universe explanation for Discord then I would say most likely he is a tulpa. The term tulpa originated with Tibetan Buddhism, at least according to wikipedia lol. It's a creature born of thought, basically one's own imagination/thoughts given physical form. Discord is just a tulpa that embodies, well, discord and chaos. That's also why, when he stopped creating chaos, he started to disappear. Just like our bodies are made up of physical matter and require sustenance to persist, Discord's body is made up of chaos and requires chaos to exist. This theory of mine also aligns well with some cultures' beliefs that deities rely on worshipers in order to exist and have power, and that if those worshipers were to stop worshiping them they would cease to be.

P.S. For some reason this whole thing reminds me of a quote from the End Poem from Minecraft. It goes like this: "The atoms of the player were scattered in the grass, in the rivers, in the air, in the ground. A woman gathered the atoms; she drank and ate and inhaled; and the woman assembled the player, in her body.
 And the player awoke, from the warm, dark world of its mother's body, into the long dream." Just like we are made of atoms that were scattered in grass, water, air, and dirt, Discord is made up of chaos.


It was also said in the show that discord was the spirit of Chaos AND disharmony


Maybe star swelre put a spell to keep him obtained but the spell broke bc he was gone so he didn't manage to keep him obtained


What if Discord is part of the tree of harmony?<br>Wait hear me out he was planted with the tree of harmony and when the tree grew Discord appeared like he grew

What if Discord is part of the tree of harmony?
Wait hear me out he was planted with the tree of harmony and when the tree grew Discord appeared like he grew


What if, discord was practicing his chaos magic? Like when twilight was a filly the rainbow helped her, what if discord spent the gap in the timeline, practicing his chaos magic. So like grogar created Discord but discord didn't understand how to use his chaos magic! We've seen that with chrysalis, tired and cozy glow he said something along the lines of "I can teach you how to control chaos magic" idk I am just a fellow theorist!


I always thought discord came from the same land as Tirek, At least in the comic series.<br>In the comic issue about Tirek's origins you can actually see discord in the backround at one point.

I always thought discord came from the same land as Tirek, At least in the comic series.
In the comic issue about Tirek's origins you can actually see discord in the backround at one point.


I know who could have made him,discord made himself,at first all he was a non physical assembly of equestrian chaos and disharmony, like how the windgos work. And he already had all of his chaos powers,so he used the chaos magic to make himself a body that runs of chaos,explaining what happens when he stops being chaotic and the fact he dosent need a body to cause chaos. Just an idea. Edit: this does fit into sawtooths theory,the tree of harmony pulled into his un bodied chaos into the world and discord made himself as my original comment says.


My personal theory is chaos magic is natural organic raw magic. I believe it comes from the Energy of natural things breaking down,  decay is where chaos magic comes from because it seems to make sense.


In other words, Star Swirl still created Discord from the Tree of Harmony.


The chaos and harmony ying yang stuff really seems like a chicken vs egg situation.


That's pretty much exactly what I've been saying this whole time:<br>Discord wasn't "created," he's a force of nature

That's pretty much exactly what I've been saying this whole time:
Discord wasn't "created," he's a force of nature

but that force of nature might be impersonated at the time tree of harmony was planted, for example


well you talked about yin and yang i wanna talk about another idea you said the elements of harmony are spirits of harmony just like discord was the spirit of chaos, (im new to this and don't know how to explain this so forgive me if i miss lead you), the movie equestria girls and the mlp universe are conected we know that but this might be a stretch but what if there are other worlds out there but the one i wanna get into is could there be a world mainly made up of spirits and the elements of harmony came from there we already know things like magic can be transfered from each world for example the necklaces. but whats if the spirits of harmony came from that world of spirits and just like the elements of harmony the spirit of chaos (discord) came to be to bring balance or something like that what if grogar is a spirit of chaos. And spirits can be transfered from each world. this is all i had i have a terrible memory but this could or could not fill holes in the story. also this was a what if question i just wanted to share. You may take this and build on whatever you like this was made purely for fun but i wouldn't rule this out as not possible i just want my ideas heard and im curious what you or others think on this idea.


If we focus on grogar theory the time gap was filled by turning discord into stone like celestia did but without elements of harmony and he was hidden in some old cave or something that is not explored by pony or any other creature? It does make a lill sense


What if Starswirl made him and set a trigger on him to only show up once the sisters and tree were fully grown, as a sort of “test.” he probably thought he wouldn’t be around for it though (which made sense because he wasn’t.) it would also explain where Discord got his impulsion to do that same thing to Twilight, of course Starswirls would go better because he was a wizard and had plenty of experience


I think gorger had to steel magic and that's why it took so long and then he only could do it


This theory also explains the ending of why he's been bringing problems to the mane 6 to solve!


Can you explain HOW THE HELL DOES THE WINGS MEANT TO BE SHOWEN IF THE ALCORN/PEGISIS IS WEARING SOMETHING


The creators be like: let’s make a completely random kids show and but not much fought in it
The people who watched the show be like: What if this happened and how did what come up how did he was made how does this world even possible.
The creators: we just wanted some money


It has probably already been said but what if Starswirl created discord (who, at that time, would have been weaker, maybe baby like?) then seeing how dangerous he was (and after a villainous act) banished him to another realm (which seem to be his favorite way to dealing with problem) thinking than since he acted as a villain once he would always be one. That realm would become discord chaos dimension when he grew and got more powerful. And the time lapse before his escape would just be the time lapse before he got powerful enough to change dimension


But Discord planted seeds at the tree of harmony to kill it, that he said himself "They were supposed to spring ages ago" Or something like that. And he was turned to a stone statue by Luna and Celestia before Luna turned evil. So it would make sence if he was created before or with the tree of harmony. Yes his first APPERENCE was in that episode, BUT he was there even before Luna turned evil


Welp turns out Grogar was Discord the whole time. <br>So Grogar’s dead.

Welp turns out Grogar was Discord the whole time.
So Grogar’s dead.

brogan did exist, and it is a possibility, but brogan definitely did exist

Najiya Phillips also because of the bell and MLP G1

2:32 was just a hint at who Grogar truly was

Purriesi !, this theory could still be correct. Discord was pretending to be Grogar, he wasn’t actually Grogar so Grogar still could’ve made him.

Fidel Rodriguez Grogar’s location is unknown. No one knows where he is alive or dead. The Grogar you see in Season 9 is Discord taking the form of Grogar and acting as if he were Grogar. So when his magic was taken away, the spell that allowed him to appear as Grogar vanished and he returned to his original form.

No, he just used him as a vessel/body that would possibly  get to be in charge of the evil group to infiltrate them.

@Miah_The_Boring_ One <br>But when his majic was taken away he turned into discord

@Miah_The_Boring_ One
But when his majic was taken away he turned into discord

Discord wasn't Grogar. Grogar was a ram the whole time not Discord in disguise. Discord was only pretending to be Grogar so he could make Cozy Glow, Tirek, and Chrysalis take him seriously as a villian.

Discord was not Grogar! He was pretending to be Grogar. I know this because if Gusty the Great's spell on the mountain still hasn't vanished than the spell that she used to banish Grogar would have expired too. (no hate.

MimiCorn Miah Hernandez he might be dead cause in the season 9 finale part 1. Grogar was revealed to be Discord all along

Purriesi ! Grogar could be dead, but he could be alive as well. Maybe he is trapped somewhere far away, and is waiting to escape.

Purriesi ! He isn’t dead he literally showed up in season 9

dude the brony notion might have not seen the finale yete no spoilers


there're comics of mlp that shows, Discord traveling in time, cousin of Discord, Eris, Discord with young Lord Tirek and other more information that might not be canon, but at least tells part of the story


discord could have been started as a baby and needed grow as well asthe tree and the royal sisters


discord was probly looking for a dimasion to theow some chaos at intel he finally found the my little pony world


I have a question 🤔, who are the syrens and who created them


My theory on how he came to be:he was made as an idea,then animated,and now famous and the #1 best creature in the MLP universe


Just think about it.<br>What If Discord is Grogar? Grogar was defided  what is If his power to create new lifeforms by combine fell back to him?

Just think about it.
What If Discord is Grogar? Grogar was defided  what is If his power to create new lifeforms by combine fell back to him?


As we know discord lives in a completely whole different world where everything is chaos and he can teleport to wherever he wants and whenever he wants and he also exists in the human world too so what if he has the ability to travel different universes and he only showed up in the pony world after the tree of harmony grew because the tree of harmony called him because without chaos there can't be harmony and that what if the elements went to discord instead of discord stealing them bc as we know the elements can teleport and they went to discord and called him to the pony world that's when discord made his first  appearance idk this dosen't make any sense but I am pretty sure he has the ability to travel different universes and be present at the specific time when the tree of harmony calls him and that's why the tree of harmony never vanished  him  in the first place like it did with all the other villains and this theory also counts up with why all of the villains were called by discord to build up twillight's confidence but that wasn't the only reason it was for the tree of harmony bc like I told there can't be harmony without disharmony so discord and the tree of harmony worked together so that harmony could exist by creating disharmony.


Waves: The Tree of harmony is the reason for Discord.<br>Me: That means Fluttershy is older then Discord….😳

Waves: The Tree of harmony is the reason for Discord.
Me: That means Fluttershy is older then Discord….😳


I think its been two years but supporting this thoery (and also how the spirit of harmony killed the tree or harmony) is how the the spirit of harmony destroyed the tree since like yin and yang there is an extract on one side (There is chaos in harmony and harmony in chaos) the spirit of harmony  created chaos for a short time by destroying the tree of harmony becuase people such as the mane six didn't understand that the elements of harmony were just objects and the true power is The magic of friendship. Becuase how some poeple didn't know that  the magic of friendship is what the elements need to have power they panicked and brought chaos into the land such as sombra controlling everyone.


Maybe discord had a whole land that had more creatures like him . He was lord of chaos , someone in his land might have bees creature of love, someone else might have been creature of heat etc. Maybe in that land discord had a family that had only bad intentions but discord had good intentions in his heart so he moved to equestria and wanted to find a pony that would be his friend .


I really want to see a sawtooth waves and firebrand collab


I'm kinda not agreeing on the idea because discord has been friends with the smooze which he said he's known for a very long time(ages/centuries I think)and discord knows about grogar and king vorak which existed very long ago....I think discord had been in stone in all of those times he's not in the timeline and just have been freed by the tree of harmony in the time Celestia and Luna fought him,to balance the order and chaos,but discord had more power that he can alter reality thus I think to still add balance on the order side Luna and Celestia are in the equation.

Order:Tree of Harmony, Celestia,Luna

Chaos: Discord

Since we know that without the elements of harmony Celestia and Luna won't win against discord...


Ii think that if star swirl did make discord before he went poof, discord could have been exploring the world and getting use to his magic, after finding out how powerful it is he wanted to do some bad things


well with the yin and yang theory I have an add on, because the tree of harmony was planted who planted discord, connecting up with the random seeds discord planted mabey those where his origin.


in season 8 or 9 notice how discord just disappeared when star swirl showed up like the time spell twilight used reversed discord to star swirl before his magical accident???


Some myth might be if discord is fused by some tartarus animals locked in there, you see his body is a fused by a dragon ear and half, and more.


Maybe Starswirl created Discord to help Celestia and Luna protect Equestria in his absence. He created Discord right after he and the pillars planned “Project banish ourselves and our old friend because why the fuck not”


The sisters never came apart of the conclusion maybe the sisters have something to do with discord discord and the sister fit together discord is made by the sister but I jumped in more the sister used the tree of harmony and their magic to creat discord discord is confusing discord has to have something with the tree of harmony what were the sisters planning the sisters aren’t well know we don’t know their past but they have something to do with discord


Finished watching it, my thoughts:
-Maybe that's Grogar's plan for control: He uses his power to weaken one of the sides of the yin-yang, and in the ensuing madness, he takes control, when everyone is weak.
-Maybe, to stop Grogar, the mane 6 destroy both spirits, or merge them together, to solidify the evenness that creates peace.
-If the Spirit of Harmony chooses to show up as Twilight, since she's brought the most harmony at the time, did Discord's spirit choose to show up as another amalgamation, possibly one Grogar created?

@Miller Karageanes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_(season_9)
There will be 22 episodes, 19 have aired.

@Miller Karageanes Assuming you're talking to me, I don't know any of that, they're theories. Head-cannons, if you will.

@catluvr2 You will learn everything from you tube thumbnails anyway within 2 weeks so good luck avoiding spoilers

@MrConredsX Hey, I prefer to watch the episodes after they premiere... IN THE USA.

Whether Grogar created Discord or not, we will learn it in two weeks when the finale premieres


Grogar's powerful goat eye bell, looks like the season 5 episode 8 goat Villan


The only problem is that why did he do evil as soon as he came why can’t he just be chaotic but not evil


Accordong to your theory Tirek was in Tartarus before discore was born so how did he recognized him when he saw him and bowed to him becouse he knew him as the powerful lord of chaos ?


Magic made what was needed magic really has no true set path its not good or bad it just is. Chaos was needed to hold the world together so magic made chaos in a living form with no set path


This is an interesting theory. It makes a lot of sense too. Hmmmm now to make my own theory on this show before it ends... But on what?


if discord was created to go with the tree of harmony how would he know about grogar ?


I'd say maybe discord used to be nice and little when he was created by star swirl he maybe turned angry and sad when his creator that he viewed as a dad disappeared


So starswirl did create discord albeit unintentionally. Lol just like a true absentee dad, he went to limbo to get some milk 🥛


Hm I have something to say, please read this!You said that discord turned good, like he knew that a little good was good.But the spirit of harmony doesn’t have a little bit a chaos in it, does it?


Me: dead
Brony Notion: posts a video
Me: wait, what

Me: *dead*
Brony Notion: *posts a video*
Me: wait, what


Ok so to a princess become a princess she must creat a new magic right? what if discord is the simple result of the sirens magic? i mean this would solve the problem in the timeline (since it wouldnt necessarily be a result from night to day) and basically the sirens role was spreading discord in equestria


I Think when the Tree Of Harmany became a sertan age (even though it is tecnicly a tree) Discord was made to keep the world in check


If StarSwirl did invent Discord what if he was kind of like the tree of harmony. But instead Discord was animal like the version of the tree of disharmony. And Discord wasn’t fully ready until a little bit before he took over. Like he had to grow like the tree of harmony. But I like ur theory better


But if he’s so young then how did he morph into grogar? How would he know what he looks like let alone even have heard of him?


That image in the crystal ball reminded me of himself Grogar I thought that meant that he experimented on himself


maybe discord was created in a way to show the ponies what would happen to the world when the tribes were at war...?


My theory is if there are so many creatures why can discords kind be a type a creature? I am thinking that they all went extinct and discord is the last of his kids and he was still little when his parents died so he didn't remember anything. when tierk learned about grogar what if discord over heard or heard the same stories.? that's just what I think.


Sawtooth:*makes a dnd reference*<br>me:"I Like Your Funny Words Magic Man"

Sawtooth:*makes a dnd reference*
me:"I Like Your Funny Words Magic Man"


I didn't care about discord's back story now I am interested because of you.


maybe when the tree of harmony was created discord in a extreamly small factor and as the tree grew so did he.


Let me tell you. You see, there are many members for harmony. What about Chaos? Where are those members?


We are going to be wondering about this for along time 😂


Will you please do an analysis of Star Swirl the bearded?


I love tour channel and your vids. They are so entertaining when I am bored. :D


discord.. is the opposite of harmony.. it seems that the full grown tree happened near to when discord happens. if the spirit of harmony is formed here with the tree of harmony growing, perhaps discord was also growing as that spirit was growing. it seems obvious now that the everfree forest was discord's- as if things happening all on their own arent chaotic lol. we may live in a more chaotic world than the ponies, and perhaps the magic of harmony is how the ponies understand their own world.
Also, thinking about sombra and the equal village and how.. that was examples of evil harmony. perhaps even the changelings.
as evil rises and has risen in so much of the past, it seems that so much now is bringing more good to balance that past evil. its a homeostasis of equestria itself. and it just so happens that harmony/order tends to align with good and chaos/disorder tends to align with evil. if the world can bring these forces into a neutral area there may eventually become a homeostasis without extremes.. i wonder what a world like that would become. honestly, it would probably be rather boring, as, well, you know not good without first knowing evil, yeah? perhaps this violent equilibrium is just how it should be, like the equilibrium seen in nature of grass-rabbit-fox for example. first, grass grows excessively. then, rabbits grow excessively bc more food source and grass declines bc more predators. then, foxes grow excessively bc more food source and rabbits decline bc more predators. then grass grows bc less predators and the cycle continues. Celestia can try to tame those cycles but i don't think we will be able to truly control any of equestria. just do damage control as best as we can.


Dang this show gets better by the secand im for one proud to be apart of this comunity


Definition of disharmony

 : lack of harmony : discord.

I learned this is the opposite of harmony and look whos name there


i think maybe he was made for harmony but that backed fired and turned into choas   and now he cant think to live without it so he make himself fade away


The tree being planted, and his existence being created, well the tree was planted by star swirl.

That means the star swirl = discord theory is proven unless Lauren Faust debunks it.

@•H H• <b>GASPS</b> OMG LUNA IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN

@•H H• *GASPS* OMG LUNA IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN

So Star Swirl created Discord!! HIS THEORY IS STILL ACCOUNTABLE

Yeah copper rose i think that is quit a mouthful

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And, you know, like five other ponies but alright.

Yeah! The Pillars created the tree which created Discord which created balance between harmony and chaos. This means that Starswirl could’ve still created Discord if this theory gets confirmed by Faust somehow. It’s a bit of a stretch, but it’s a stretch that fits in.


Think about it this way Sawtooth, what if Grogar IS Discord or Discord IS Grogar?


This is really late, as in mlp is finished late, but I just got a funny theory that some what works? Discord seems to live in a space type of place where things are floating around and portals seem to open up. We seen discord open portals before to non-pony like dimensions, like that one sock puppet show. Maybe he’s just a mixture of different universes and not only a my little pony character, but one character from different universes fused together into one, creating discord. And maybe discord’s character just originated from my little pony, but then figured other things out by opening portals. there is a problem to this theory though, because if that’s true, then why is discord only shown in my little pony and not any other universe ya know? So that’s why I thought it’s funny and share it on an old video, where no one can see this comment 😌


okay, i have a question (this is probably never goona be answered but whatever). If chaos and harmony have always existed then the spirit of harmony and the spirit of chaos must have always been. Maybe not in in the forms as we see them. So what if when the 7 pilliger made the tree of harmony they somehow put the spirit of harmony which was already there into an actual form. So that means that discord is the solid form of the entity of chaos. So, here is the part that i don´t understand: You know where discord lives? Yeah in that limbo thingy, so what if he was sruck there untill that very moment. What if he had already been but was just kept prison there and if the tree is so wise then he must be aswell. I mean he IS chaos. He must have been there before he was put in his solid form. Cause it can´t just be that chaos was created when the pilligers made the tree. Same goes for harmony. Could somebody explain?


What if discord was created when the tree happened but he was turned into stone because he tried to destroy the tree for the first time THAN he came alive and got turned into stone than came alive again so his time line started with the tree of harmony but eventually stop and restart you know


Call be late at this video was made over 2 years ago, but what if Discord was created long before the founding of Equestria, what if there was a whole realm or “civilization” if you will of Dracaugnaquis (if that’s how you spell it) it wouldn’t be back up by the show but it would make sense if there was more the one (as you stated in a further video) I think this is an interesting theory


if you was to go with starswing made discord thing

it could easily just discord was a child like the princess andwhen he took over was when he finally come off age

and reason he like he is alot of powers and his maker was not around


I think your theory is rigt, sawtooth. Chaos and harmony balanced could make Equestria a better 3


in an episode of mp discord talked about his childhood and how he lost his parents in the woods to fluttershy after marrying her


I'm pretty sure Grogar made discord, the season 9 premiere Grogar was called the father of monsters, also discord is the only draconiquous in the show, along with the other 3 villains of the season making mention the fact that they weren't artificial, or created, Tirek saying that he heard the Legend of Grogar when he was younger, but discord never makes reference of when he was younger or anything like that, and he doesn't seem to age at all, so it goes to saying that perhaps Grogar created discord, but why, I think it was a fail safe, if Grogar lost his power, or was killed, discord would be the one to instill fear in the hearts of everyone. I also think discord is the strongest character in the show. Look at his power, he can bend reality with the snap of a finger, can also create sentience like it's nothing, and can also corrupt ponies. I know they imply that Grogar is the strongest, but that was only implied, and look at how they were defeated, Discord had to get hit with the magic friendship rainbow, and even then the only true way to make sure he wasn't a threat was to befriend him, but the only thing that had to happen to defeat Grogar was to just take his bell, and I know he said it only weakened him temporarily, which probably to him means millennias, and he was defeated by a regular unicorn, not an allicorn a unicorn, and all he had to do was take his bell. That's it. The father of monsters ladies and gentlemen, and draconiquous's. But that's a theory a friendship theory.


princess Celestia said that discord rolled  before them and was explaining how the Earth ponies, Wing ponies<br> and unicorns were having a hard trouble because there was no happiness or friendship

princess Celestia said that discord rolled  before them and was explaining how the Earth ponies, Wing ponies
 and unicorns were having a hard trouble because there was no happiness or friendship


My theory: i think thaf discord created himself or got created by an good of an chaos universe and got sent to the pony universe since the very begining to spread chaos so there will be something as you sayd,like Yin and Yan (sorry if i misspeled) so the world will be stable but has been hiding making small chaos as his creator wanted to so the pony unicerse will be in perffect balance and he wasn't only in PonyVile and Equestria,he has been through every side of that universe but  i think at some point he got bored and wanted more chaos so he became evil and that's how we first saw Discord.Hes also now staing more in Ponyvile since he gave up on his job and his creator sended another hybrid in that universe to replace Discord.Discord was probably disapearing not beacuse he became more normal but he started to disapear since his creator didn't needed him anymore


The next line that Grogar spoke- <b>DUOLINGO SAYS THAT LEARNING LANGUAGES IS 💫HARD💫</b>

The next line that Grogar spoke- *DUOLINGO SAYS THAT LEARNING LANGUAGES IS 💫HARD💫*


as you know discord dose not need a body
may be after grogar created the body of discord
the body did not move so grogar throwe him away
after the tree of harmony was fully grown the
soul of discord found the body and used it the
do chaos


Me, who finished the MLP series before hearing this theory: Grogar=Discord


I think-don’t call me crazy-  that Discord is Tirek’s brother. Put that in an other episode.


I actually think that maybe Discord was made by Garato Garrett whatever or maybe Discord was made by the tree of harmony.I think the tree of harmony really knew that Discord will be reformed by flutter shy and created Discord. It really knew that chaos means harmony.Like I saw in Discord’s defeat, He planted the seeds. And it was curved all over the tree of harmony. If only I knew how did the vines knew they had to capture Luna and Celestial?


I think that discord was locked away in a small world , But when discord was older and stronger he broke free or he was created bye the tree of harmony.


I don't think discord's first appearance was in "The Return of Harmony." Didn't Twilight see a vision of Celestia and Luna using the elements of harmony to turn discord into stone in the episode "Princess Twilight Sparkle?" And plus, in "The Return of Harmony", doesn't Celestia say, "Luna and I used the Elements of Harmony to turn discord into stone. Now that we no longer control the Elements of Harmony, you must use them to defeat discord." When Celestia and Luna had the power of the Elements of Harmony, that came before Luna turned into Nightmare Moon, which was over 1,000 years. That means, Discord must've existed way before the episode "The Return of Harmony," his first appearance. If Discord's first defeat, from Celestia and Luna, was stained on glass before the elements were stolen, then he was definitely born before the mane 6 turned him to stone.

We know. You wrote a comment about knowledge the video talked about.


If the yin yang theory is true the grogar theory is just a big pheony and starswirl really did create discord and even so your first theory  discord might have been imprisoned, and as we know punishments dont last that long maybe discords was supposed to end in specific timeline and starswirl created the spirit of harmony and the spirit of chaos on different times, and that may have caused the spirits to one up eachother, and starswirl may already knew about the ying yang and knew the spirit of harmony whould be to OP and neaded something or some one to balance it.


I have a fun question. If discord and flutter shy had to kids one representing flutter shy but more chaotic and the other representing discord if the one representing discord tried to take over do you think he could manipulate his sister?


before discord he could have been in different world like the human world and then the tree need chaos so the tree use the harmony stone to get him in the pony world he might have been made in the human world i also have a story how he was a scientist and made a chaos potion and drink it and he become discord. my theory


Maybe star swirl created discord <br>But when discord started spreading chaos and unhappiness  star swirl banished discord, after going to limbo star swirl's spell broke  and discord was free but before going to limbo star swirl and the pillers planted the tree of harmony so whenever discord is free and the pillers won't be around to defeat discord... celestia and luna can Use the elements of harmony to defeat him

Maybe star swirl created discord
But when discord started spreading chaos and unhappiness  star swirl banished discord, after going to limbo star swirl's spell broke  and discord was free but before going to limbo star swirl and the pillers planted the tree of harmony so whenever discord is free and the pillers won't be around to defeat discord... celestia and luna can Use the elements of harmony to defeat him


I wanna know how many times mlp theorists have watched the show to realize all of this

idk i've watched all the seasons 4 times and now im watching them for the 5th time


Video idea: If changelings can shapeshift can they make other creatures shapeshift


The yin yang type reminds me of raava and vaatu from avatar the last airbender cuz neither can be destroyed one grows within the other


You forgot the fact discord knew about the chest of tree harmony caused the castle  he marked the book of friendship


Yes the chaos and harmony are connected like the prophecy in wings of fire states" darkness will rise to bring the light" they coexist with each other just like the different ponies of equestria or the different tribes of dragons in pyrhia


I love your videos, this fandom was an amazing part of my life. Thank you 🙂


Why is Discord and Fluttershy my favorite friend group Empire the show because those two are such good friends but they have the opposite personalities for letter shy shy like a her name she's kind and sweet but just quit his chaotic funny and crazy but when I never did specifically everything that happened in the episode when she had the responsibility of taking him and turning him normal I believe that if chaos didn't exist in the world of My Little Pony Discord would never have existed in the first place it's not just a Spirit of Harmony because there's so many villains back counteracting and causing chaos and destruction just like with Discord and Fluttershy Fluttershy's trying to discard to calm down and stop spreading chaos like a Harmony Discord being the spirit of chaos if there was no villains or no Terror in the world of My Little Pony he wouldn't be able to exist if he doesn't have his essential form of chaos and Terror his magic is basically ass formed from chaos and Terror and if those things didn't exist he wouldn't have magic or not exist at all and now that Discord is still good but also still Causes Chaos feel bad Fluttershy that she has to deal with Discord because he just seems annoying


no es que en el comic no canon "the FIENDship is magic" discord ya estaba y se da una explicación???


my theory has always been <br>Maybe Grogar created Discord

my theory has always been
Maybe Grogar created Discord


Where was he....
1.Growing up
2. Getting his power to work better
And that’s all I could come up with


I think the concept of ying and yang(light and darkness) might be the most accurate. Chaos can't exist without harmony, and harmony can't exist without chaos.


This makes no sense because how did Discord know about Tirek's past if he was created when the tree of harmony is full grown? He even mentioned King Vorak. That means he has been around for a long time.

If you can bend the fabeic of reality and break the fourth wall, I think you can learn information from magic.


the studio who just wants to make kids happy: I don't get paid enough for this 🐸👍🥲


Discord is my favorite character, say whatever you want, he is cool


I'm going with discord story from the series " Bride of Discord" I can just see it more. 🙃🤔


Maybe he was already there, then when equestria was formed, he was banished to the chaos realm, then he made himself a physical form and came to get control of the land that banished him, just a thought ;-;

Maybe not. He could be a manifestation of entropy. A class unto himself. Just an always existing force of nature.

Or was he, yup he was, BUT WHO ARE HIS PARENTS


Maybe Starswerll actually did create a Discord


10:14 Wait a minute... That symbol... Oh no brothers, a chaos incursion, alert the imperium. We march for macragge!


this was recommended to me out of nowhere but the Moment you brought up ying and yang i thought you were gonna talk about luna n celestia. like ,, yang day and yin night. but you meant harmony n chaos and I was gonna leave it at that but. it feels like luna n celestia are a yin-yang inside of a yang, celestias the white and lunas the small black dot on it. i got that figured out, but for discord while hes clearly the yin part but theres still that little white dot and the only characters i can imagine to fill that role is fluttershy or pinkie or maybe twilight


After watching this I want to get some of that good chocolate rain on my face.


Discord is not young, he even said in the episode “make new friends but keep discord” that he’s centuries old.

Discord also explicitly states that "Being turned to stone doesn't prevent me from hearing everything Celestia says", so it's basically implied that he's <b>concious</b> during the time he was in stone. So yes, he's right, it's just that a huge potion of his lifetime has been in stone

Discord also explicitly states that "Being turned to stone doesn't prevent me from hearing everything Celestia says", so it's basically implied that he's *concious* during the time he was in stone. So yes, he's right, it's just that a huge potion of his lifetime has been in stone

When he trixie,starlight rescue everyone from chrysalis ,he says ,"I haven't walked in a milennia"


I don't think I've actually seen Discord angry before....


Celestia and Luna created this chord so the main six could turn this chord to stone for them


I think discord was 1 price all along that big time line gap he wasn't showed in was him finding nice place to attack


You could just say everything was natural discord as well as alicorns


Sorry to burst your bubble dude but we never learnt discords origins in the last season so your theory might actually be well the right one 👍


I love this part 11:57 just look at the background.


I don't think grogar had chaos magic, we only see discord using this type of magic. So discord isn't created by grogar


What if Discord was trapped/banned in that alternate universe where he lives! After so long of trying to figure out how to escape, he finally figured it out and escaped back to equestria to finish his evil plan to take over equestria/Chaos Capital Of The World. (I hope you see this. I am a big fan!)😁😊


I can disprove the theory that Discord was created as a side effect of the tree's existence.  Check out the mini comic side series 'Fiendship is Magic'.  In the second issue (the one about Tirek), one of the scenes has Discord standing among the crowd of people in the throne room the morning after the explosion, thus meaning he existed when Tirek was still a teenager.

Also, as an extra note, check out some of the most recent issues of the main comic series.  You will find some backstory about Discord and a character called Cosmos.  The backstory seems to read out like it was actually Cosmos who caused the first 'chaos mess',  and he erased that part of the ponies' memories and covered for her.

All that is really cool, but the show writers have a habit of overwriting book and comic cannon, so I don't tend to take that into account. I have read all the feindship comics and enjoyed them though!


Discord could have been a baby so star swirl created him as a baby and he got angry and came to ponyvill and was turned into stone


Okay but please don't make me say this, chaos magic is dangerous to use during king sombre because discords magic was taken by him.🌋


This origin of discord while I see many good points. I also see a lot of flaws I understand the concept but I feel like something wrong or missing for example during that episode where discord opens a hole to another dimension to send tree hugger that made me think 💭 . I know for a fact discord the spirit of chaos disharmony does exist as a counter balance but what if he not originally from that Equestria what if the discord we see on the show is from another dimension like Equestria or even similar and whatever destroy or killed it he simply transferred himself to this other universe to fulfill his purpose. Ik what your thinking but that doesn’t explain how he was created if he comes from a different universe that means their could multiple versions or not one singular entity but here’s my argument. Discord is a being of chaos and disharmony when he acts or tries to be normal he disappears so maybe his origins is linked to his magic 🪄 because he a agent of chaos his origins are always changing in every universe he in what if every time a discord being enters another universe they make sure to arrive at a time where they’re existence doesn’t make sense . As a result that be chaotic and make sense why nobody can figure out how or what he is because discord makes it so nobody can discover how or what he is . It’s a fan theory of my own I hope maybe sawtooth or anyone else gives a chance anyway later bronies.


Well thecnicly discord could have been an egg? When the tree was planted so discord had emediatly started doing stuff when the tree of harmony could cause well harmony


Tirek seem to know discord in 4th season, so he couldnt have been created after the tree of harmony


Am I the only one who pictures Grogar saying "Respect your elders" to the princesses-?


Discord could be at his home
You know that floating island with discord’s house.So that where discord could be


I NEED A EP OF DISCORD GOING THROUGH THE MIRROR PORTAL


the could be a theory that startswirl created discord<br>between the timeline of discord appearance and starswirls own discord had been put in stone so that was where he was

the could be a theory that startswirl created discord
between the timeline of discord appearance and starswirls own discord had been put in stone so that was where he was


This would possibly also explain why discord was disappearing when he became more normal. Without chaos, he became unbalanced. If there's more of one thing than there usually is, sometimes it would to be disposed of, like making discord disappear.

I know this sounds stupid but it sounded right in my head.


In the first episode of the show (gen 4) they have a ying-yang symbol with celestia and Luna


Discord could have been growing up after either Star Swirl or Groger :p


What if starswirl and grogar uses to be friends and made discord and tierk together?


So technically starswirl DID create discord, just in a roundabout way because starswirl created the tree and the tree inadvertently created discord


My theory: Discord lives in an only draconeques inhabited dimension like his home.


It’s so cool that grogar is from a really old version of mlp and they put it in a new version cool right


The main problem with this theory is that chaos and disharmony, as well as order and harmony aren't nessecarily the same thing. Chaos means formlessness and unpredictability while order is formfulness and predictability. Harmony means agreement and mutual cooperation while disharmony is disagreement and antagonism.

King Sombra established a regime of order of the highest magnitude but would you really it harmonic? He basically just forced his will upon the crystal ponies which is the exact opposite of harmony, so order and disharmony aren't nessacarily mutally exclusive. Meanwhile, anyone who's ever playted the Shivering Ilse DLC for Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion will also know that chaos and harmony are also not mutally exclusive concepts. While Discord calls himself "Spirit of Chaos and Disharmony", the only time he utilizes disharmony is to render the Elements of Harmony useless, otherwise he leans much, much more towards just chaos. So the opposite of Discord wouldn't be the Spirit of Harmony, it would be the Spirit of Order which doesn't appears on the show or is even mentioned. It does make me wonder what a Spirit of Order would be like. Probably a character similar to ones like Jyggalag or White Diamond.


What if discord somehow got trapped in the seed that star swirl and the others planted and when celestial and luna took the elements of harmony out of the tree they opened a portal from inside the tree and he thought on how he would take over the world and got out before luna became nightmare moon


Wow! This video is so complex that you can almost forget it didn’t have an intro song

ALMOST!!!

Note: I’m sorry, it’s just a sin for me, I think it’s my OCD


What if he wasn’t a creation what if he does have a whole species just like pony’s and zebras and the reason we haven’t seen them is because they are not evil they are kind and so was discord but then he studied magic because he herd of the Royal sisters and wanted to be like them and that is evil form where they come from (some where outside of equestria)so he was made an outcast and got kicked out of his village and then that’s what actually made him evil and fought with his village and ruled it for himself then wanted to keep going keep ruling towns so that’s when he stared to try to go to pony vill and the reason he picked pony vill was because he knew the royal sisters cared for that town and he now hated them because his magic wasn’t like there’s and so on his story from that moment


I think discord came from a long line of diconi- I don't no how to say that but I'm pretty sure he came from a huge family of his nature and soon became extinct due to how everything had changed


hmm im thinking that discord WAS INDEED created before Star swirls time in limbo BUT he was trapped in some type of spell (NOT STONE but maybe something similar to grogars but a little less powerful) that lasted for a 1,000 years and when discord broke out of the spell he saw the still growing equestria and took the opportunity to rule it but we all know he failed and then turned to stone. or it could be yours (also i luv your vids)


Started to recognize the music around 6:16, can't remember what it is. Reminded me of Entropy: Zero but it seems not since I just checked, anybody know? Is it Vandoorea? It definitely sounds Half-Lifey somehow.


I think discord was actually around when equestria was found

swagrobloxmann2 and for all we know he could have started his rein thousands of years before the scene in season 2 premiere

And he was just waiting to have more magical potential to take over. It makes sense, he was made or created at the founding and took over centuries later

Yea hes like maybe older than 1000 years old

Or, before that? I think he came a little after the royal sisters, but before the pillars came back from Limbo

Stephanie Tournear while it is possible there will be some problems. First of all where is he living during the founding of esuestria? The time where the tribes clash so hard they almost lost their Life? We know that it’s not any of the tribes as no one will let any outsiders in plus that time is pure chaos wouldn’t discord have came if he was around? While discord being around when equestria is still possible. It won’t add up to the where has he been all this time.

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Stephanie Tournear Yeah, maybe he was busy creating his realm of chaos🤔


What is Discord got sent into Limbo with the pillars but somehow escaped and that's when she decided to conquer equestrian just a theory


If Starswirl really created Discord were did Tirek then know him from?


The Harmony tree gave birth to Discord?! Yes! I belive thats true because the last episode when Celestia Luna and Discord Make the 3 villians stone without elements, “How did they make it” its because of Discord maby he has a conation to Elements and he needed Alicorn magic to make his conaction stronger? Thats my theary :) I hope it makes sense!


Discord could of gotten banished to limbo with the pillars and cos here's discord he could've broke through...star swirl told him to help them get out but he disobeyed....


a draconoquist is supposed to look like discord


Grogar give life to Discord and the other villains at the first time I thought you were crazy


you are wrong discord did not know about the elements of harmony only the tree he should have knew if the tree bought discord to life


Maybe when the tree of harmony was planted that time Discord was young  and when the tree grew up that time Discord was grown up to


Discord probably was created by the tree of harmony or the spirit of the tree of harmony because the tree of harmony knew that there is something wrong so yeah that’s my theory or head canon


Tirek: DONT YOU BRING GRAM-GRAM INTO THIS!!!

(Thought of this when the tirek part came on)


Star swirl could have vanished discord for a thousand years


Diskord was created by spirit of harmony . All dots conect to this!


He really needs to make a <b>DISCORD</b> server.

He really needs to make a *DISCORD* server.


Discord. When you realize it’s also- the Nitro chat program Discord- it’s funny.


Discord was made by a person we haven't heard of it wasn't  anybody that we have heard of. He just his own Chao's.


i just wanna say thank you for pronouncing yin yang correctly :)


Omg I am so happy your back! Did you know MLP is ending? :(

Mlp is not ending Generation 4 is <br>Generation 5 will take over

Mlp is not ending Generation 4 is
Generation 5 will take over

@MrConredsX R.I.P. all the nine year olds

@skydfly 67 9 year old dont even know what depression is. They just confuse it with sadness

@MrConredsX well you can be a depressed 9 year old if the 9 year old has depression

Mikey. parker season 9 is the last season

@Mystic Fawn Google MLP gen 5 leaks. Quit a lot is changing.

We will have equestrian girls.*sniff* BUT IT WONT BE THE SAME

@MrConredsX I was depressed for all my life since abuse and neglect thats how it happens

@Risha wait i thought it was done IM EXCITED!! HOPE it keeps its main style

NOOOOO!!!! MLP IS ENDING?!?!?!?! HOW COME NO ONE TOLD ME?!?!?!

HE LITERALLY MENTIONED IT IN THIS VIDEO!!!!

Most people know that G4 is coming to a close, so I don't see it being possible for a ponytuber to not know lol.

Why are all of you giving me hate? I didn’t know :( thank you to those who told me.

@Lily Rose Gacha How can you be depressed and be 9 years old? You will just start living. Real life start when you're 15

mlp makes me sad cuz i have 0 friends and depression I'm 9 years old i feel wired powers in side my life is a living hell

@alphathewolf Also there will be no Alicorns and if Discord returns he will look differently with different voice and might not be into Fluttershy anymore

@GuyInGrey Its already pretty much confirmed to be far removed from the gen 4 timeline, seeing as earth, unicorn, and pegasus ponies will libe on seperate.planes of existance and all.

@Risha But the characters will all be different, the story reset. At most, it'll take place long after the events of G4. MLP as we know it is ending, and starting anew.

No people it is starting a new generation not ending is that what ya'll mean?

Ofcourse he does. He mentioned it in one of his more previous videos

of course he knows. that's why he's making so many new vids


if discord existed after  grogar how did he know about him


I want discord to be in G5, but at the same time I don't, because Fluttershy would be gone


I háve a theory against this
First of all, discord could bé a disguise FOR star swirl.
Secondly all of the pillars could háve become discord when they were banished  and before you say "whell IF the pillars are discord then why is discord chaos""at least preaveously any way" WELL its BECAUSETHERE ONEBIGBEING thats Like you spining around for 5min,stoping and trying to walk in a strate line, it just dosnt work.
Thirdly IF discord is actuataly the pillars the reason why the pillars came back and discord was still there is because discord became another being. Your suitcase has been shut sawtoothwaves!


How did the sisters know who discord was did he just send them a letter and a biography


Does anyone notice that this video was posted in 2019 with the outro from  to the sky which was posted in 2020 ( wow how long did Sawtooth put that aside for )


discord is the discord god of the texting app<br>yes you have now witnessed the stupidest theoory without even evidence

discord is the discord god of the texting app
yes you have now witnessed the stupidest theoory without even evidence