Pink hair dude is EXACTLY the type of person I expect to be working at a vegan restaurant 😂

Pink hair dude is EXACTLY the type of person I expect to be working at a vegan restaurant 😂

@euphxria-T4E obviously I am vegan, not a they/them though

@euphxria-T4E obviously I am vegan, not a they/them though

@FractalDustyou definitely vegan and have pronouns they/them lol

@FractalDustyou definitely vegan and have pronouns they/them lol

I'd expect a pink haired woman but sure I guess

I'd expect a pink haired woman but sure I guess

@FractalDust You make such a fair point, but you’re missing the whole “animals” thing. Simple intelligence cares about one thing: surviving and reproducing. Aww, it’s cute that cow is taking care of its babies! That’s so they can survive and reproduce. So how is it different from plants? All plants want to do is survive and make as many children as possible in their lifetime. Animals are animals, and humans are humans. Not to mention you know as a vegan that you can’t live on your own eating only plants, your have to supplement nutrients you don’t

@FractalDust You make such a fair point, but you’re missing the whole “animals” thing. Simple intelligence cares about one thing: surviving and reproducing. Aww, it’s cute that cow is taking care of its babies! That’s so they can survive and reproduce. So how is it different from plants? All plants want to do is survive and make as many children as possible in their lifetime. Animals are animals, and humans are humans. Not to mention you know as a vegan that you can’t live on your own eating only plants, your have to supplement nutrients you don’t

Being a vegan was dope when I did it. But I shit you not, it’s motherfuckers with pink hair all into the animals and activists shit and weirdo energy that made me wanna quit the first 72 hours of that shit.. I did it for 10 months..

Being a vegan was dope when I did it. But I shit you not, it’s motherfuckers with pink hair all into the animals and activists shit and weirdo energy that made me wanna quit the first 72 hours of that shit.. I did it for 10 months..

this stupid vegan argument is making me sick

this stupid vegan argument is making me sick

everyone in this comment section stfu, theres like 100 comments about 1 reply, just shut up, everyone has their own opinion, it also has nothing to do with the comment. The comment said something about antagonising a stranger, nothing else, so stop.

everyone in this comment section stfu, theres like 100 comments about 1 reply, just shut up, everyone has their own opinion, it also has nothing to do with the comment. The comment said something about antagonising a stranger, nothing else, so stop.

Homie I got pink hair and I got this same feeling. He really threatened the camera as well 😂 My man’s opening line was “I’m gonna cry”, don’t know how he thought he was gonna sound intimidating after that

Homie I got pink hair and I got this same feeling. He really threatened the camera as well 😂 My man’s opening line was “I’m gonna cry”, don’t know how he thought he was gonna sound intimidating after that

I don't think he would have actually smashed his camera tbh...

I don't think he would have actually smashed his camera tbh...

@Snoopy Schulz less death is better than more death, it is impossible to not cause harm by existing but we should seek to reduce that harm when we can. We should be guardians of life, not needless destroyers of it.

@Snoopy Schulz less death is better than more death, it is impossible to not cause harm by existing but we should seek to reduce that harm when we can. We should be guardians of life, not needless destroyers of it.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Bitch thats why we have our Caine teeth to eat meat or suck it

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Bitch thats why we have our Caine teeth to eat meat or suck it

@FractalDust I hope you think about all the aquafers you're destroying everytime you eat a salad. You have no moral high ground you're destroying the planet .

@FractalDust I hope you think about all the aquafers you're destroying everytime you eat a salad. You have no moral high ground you're destroying the planet .

@Snoopy Schulz if you don't want to hear anything I am saying, you can just stop replying. You started this conversation so I hope you understand why I responded. I hope you at least think about some of the things I have said. I never made the claim that you need my approval. The world is constantly changing and I am sorry that me wanting it to change upsets you so much but you can just ignore what I am saying if you want to, nobody is forcing you to read what I am saying.

@Snoopy Schulz if you don't want to hear anything I am saying, you can just stop replying. You started this conversation so I hope you understand why I responded. I hope you at least think about some of the things I have said. I never made the claim that you need my approval. The world is constantly changing and I am sorry that me wanting it to change upsets you so much but you can just ignore what I am saying if you want to, nobody is forcing you to read what I am saying.

@FractalDust thanks I really needed your approval to eat. The answer is you don't get to in pose anything on anyone. You dont see me talking about how your life style is destroying aquafers throughout the world. Go eat grass Idgaf . Keep your ideals to yourself before you reincarnate as a roach.

@FractalDust thanks I really needed your approval to eat. The answer is you don't get to in pose anything on anyone. You dont see me talking about how your life style is destroying aquafers throughout the world. Go eat grass Idgaf . Keep your ideals to yourself before you reincarnate as a roach.

@Snoopy Schulz if you have to do it to survive that is still not entirely good but it is understandable, I would kill to survive if I had to. The question is, when it is not necessary, why should we?

@Snoopy Schulz if you have to do it to survive that is still not entirely good but it is understandable, I would kill to survive if I had to. The question is, when it is not necessary, why should we?

@FractalDust bruh I grew up in a third world country with no refrigeration we kill everything we eat. Its the cycle of life and you should embrace it. You should be glad you have this much abundance in your country.

@FractalDust bruh I grew up in a third world country with no refrigeration we kill everything we eat. Its the cycle of life and you should embrace it. You should be glad you have this much abundance in your country.

@Snoopy Schulz if you don't care you should ask yourself why you don't care, make sure to test out if you really don't care by watching videos on how your meat is made. I can't imagine you would want to be in the same situation.

@Snoopy Schulz if you don't care you should ask yourself why you don't care, make sure to test out if you really don't care by watching videos on how your meat is made. I can't imagine you would want to be in the same situation.

@FractalDust I honestly don't give a shit if they enjoy it or not

@FractalDust I honestly don't give a shit if they enjoy it or not

@FalseAlarm911 yeah that’s not a flex buddy

@FalseAlarm911 yeah that’s not a flex buddy

@RatPoo I'm pretty sure everyone at this point does it on the Internet let's not act all crazy

@RatPoo I'm pretty sure everyone at this point does it on the Internet let's not act all crazy

@nonbinarytroll so do you think about pubes often? Or do you mainly just comment full stops like the other comment?

@nonbinarytroll so do you think about pubes often? Or do you mainly just comment full stops like the other comment?

@nonbinarytroll thanks for your amazing input 👌

@nonbinarytroll thanks for your amazing input 👌

False, I can imagine a lot of people working there like.... Uhhh...

False, I can imagine a lot of people working there like.... Uhhh...

dude in the pink is the type of dude to be ultra liberal, and scream black lives matter while being  lowkey racist with no sense of humor all at the same time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

dude in the pink is the type of dude to be ultra liberal, and scream black lives matter while being  lowkey racist with no sense of humor all at the same time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Zack Hayes give me your username then, I am not posting mine publicly so more people like you can just spam message me that I am low iq instead of engaging in an actual conversation

@Zack Hayes give me your username then, I am not posting mine publicly so more people like you can just spam message me that I am low iq instead of engaging in an actual conversation

@Zack Hayes if I was a sheep I would keep eating meat, instead I actually question the things I was raised doing and made a decision to not partake anymore. The fact that you just throw around insults instead of engaging in a real conversation shows me you are a sheep in the opposite direction, someone tells you something is bad or wrong and you just continue to do it and think the people who do not agree with you are mindless sheep. You are a one man clown show 🤡

@Zack Hayes if I was a sheep I would keep eating meat, instead I actually question the things I was raised doing and made a decision to not partake anymore. The fact that you just throw around insults instead of engaging in a real conversation shows me you are a sheep in the opposite direction, someone tells you something is bad or wrong and you just continue to do it and think the people who do not agree with you are mindless sheep. You are a one man clown show 🤡

@FractalDust I’ve linked you a video 5 times and it’s been deleted every single time lmfao. I’ll make a discord literally just to send you the link if you’d actually watch it

@FractalDust I’ve linked you a video 5 times and it’s been deleted every single time lmfao. I’ll make a discord literally just to send you the link if you’d actually watch it

@Zack Hayes let me know when you actually have an argument to make instead of just random insults

@Zack Hayes let me know when you actually have an argument to make instead of just random insults

@Zack Hayes also very funny of you to try and change the subject because you had nothing to say about my vegan arguements, if you ever want to talk on discord about how low my iq is and how I fall for propaganda I'd be more than happy to talk. Maybe we will get some time to talk about veganism and how Trump was a terrible leader in-between your insults and we can actually have a somewhat productive conversation.

@Zack Hayes also very funny of you to try and change the subject because you had nothing to say about my vegan arguements, if you ever want to talk on discord about how low my iq is and how I fall for propaganda I'd be more than happy to talk. Maybe we will get some time to talk about veganism and how Trump was a terrible leader in-between your insults and we can actually have a somewhat productive conversation.

@Zack Hayes trump had full control of the US government and was a terrible leader who got nothing done other than giving jobs to his family and making people believe the election process is rigged only when he loses 😂😂😂

@Zack Hayes trump had full control of the US government and was a terrible leader who got nothing done other than giving jobs to his family and making people believe the election process is rigged only when he loses 😂😂😂

@FractalDust oh and I wanted to know because I read some of your previous comments and could tell you don’t have a single original thought in your head so I wanted to confirm where you stood on US politics. Thanks for proving me right lol dude doesn’t even live in the US and is still brainwashed by propaganda

@FractalDust oh and I wanted to know because I read some of your previous comments and could tell you don’t have a single original thought in your head so I wanted to confirm where you stood on US politics. Thanks for proving me right lol dude doesn’t even live in the US and is still brainwashed by propaganda

@FractalDust yeah figures. Imagine having that low of an iq lol

@FractalDust yeah figures. Imagine having that low of an iq lol

@Zack Hayes I am not a US citizen but I certainly would have voted for him over Trump. It has absolutely nothing to do with veganism however so I don't know why you want to know. Trump was a terrible leader and is still crying about his 'stolen' election like a baby.

@Zack Hayes I am not a US citizen but I certainly would have voted for him over Trump. It has absolutely nothing to do with veganism however so I don't know why you want to know. Trump was a terrible leader and is still crying about his 'stolen' election like a baby.

@FractalDust just curious, did you vote for joe Biden ? I am not trying to insult you I’m genuinely asking

@FractalDust just curious, did you vote for joe Biden ? I am not trying to insult you I’m genuinely asking

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Yes they are dumbass, God made animals for us to eat...

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Yes they are dumbass, God made animals for us to eat...

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣I'm dead

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣I'm dead

And yet, he think his skinny arm could grab the camera and smash it 💀

And yet, he think his skinny arm could grab the camera and smash it 💀

the pink hair guy is the type of guy that annoys the heck outta u

the pink hair guy is the type of guy that annoys the heck outta u

@FractalDust people need to eat meat brotha, people got crohn’s disease

@FractalDust people need to eat meat brotha, people got crohn’s disease

@Top Chad HAHA i KNOW how dark it is maaan and i fucken LOVE it for that
miura had some fucking BALLS to write the shit that he did, who else would write an eclipse type event?
and yeahhhh bro we need like a top tier anime adaptation
also lmk ur reaction when u catch up to chapter 364 (miuras last chapter), and then the current last chapter (370)

@Top Chad HAHA i KNOW how dark it is maaan and i fucken LOVE it for that
miura had some fucking BALLS to write the shit that he did, who else would write an eclipse type event?
and yeahhhh bro we need like a top tier anime adaptation
also lmk ur reaction when u catch up to chapter 364 (miuras last chapter), and then the current last chapter (370)

@Guts Inspirational, dark, gorey, and really fling dark. Did I mention how dark it is? Nothing comes close to it. Just praying we get a proper adaptation because what happens after the anime is 🤯

@Guts Inspirational, dark, gorey, and really fling dark. Did I mention how dark it is? Nothing comes close to it. Just praying we get a proper adaptation because what happens after the anime is 🤯

@Top Chad GANGGG what chapter g<br>and how is it?!?!

@Top Chad GANGGG what chapter g
and how is it?!?!

@Guts jk jk . Nah bruhv . I just started reading. At volume 20 rn 💪💪

@Guts jk jk . Nah bruhv . I just started reading. At volume 20 rn 💪💪

@Top Chad GUTSSSSSS FAM HAVE U SEEN CHAPTER 370

@Top Chad GUTSSSSSS FAM HAVE U SEEN CHAPTER 370

@Guts We are not carnivores, it is not essential for us to eat meat. You can be healthy eating meat and plants but you can also be healthy eating only plants. There are many natural things in the world but they are not all good, same thing for unnatural things. Radiation is natural, cancer is natural, nuclear weapons are not natural, cigarettes are not natural.

We should try to make the best world we can for all conscious beings, not slaughter billions of them just because you think it is natural to do so.

@Guts We are not carnivores, it is not essential for us to eat meat. You can be healthy eating meat and plants but you can also be healthy eating only plants. There are many natural things in the world but they are not all good, same thing for unnatural things. Radiation is natural, cancer is natural, nuclear weapons are not natural, cigarettes are not natural.

We should try to make the best world we can for all conscious beings, not slaughter billions of them just because you think it is natural to do so.

@Stop It literally
if you go out of your way to look for good meat then you wont have to worry about animal abuse. farm animals (not factory animals) still have WAY better lives than animals in the wild, and i dont get how its so hard for vegans to understand that

and thats how it goes for literally anything tbh, if you're trying to get through life with a clear conscience, you have to be mindful of literally everything, such as the meat you eat, the jobs you work or the businesses you set up (for example, real estate can make you rich but it comes at the expense of other ppl trying to afford houses to live in)

@FractalDust do you know how the NATURAL world works? forget about civilization and society for a second
you have to kill to eat, and eat to live
animals take lives by eating plants to live, other animals take lives by eating other animals to live
some are herbivores, some are CARNIVORES
humans are omnivores, we are meant to eat both, and thats evident in which diets are more healthy for us. a carnivore diet is not healthy-- and NEITHER is a vegan diet
a balanced diet is still optimal to maintain your health

@FractalDust do you know how the NATURAL world works? forget about civilization and society for a second
you have to kill to eat, and eat to live
animals take lives by eating plants to live, other animals take lives by eating other animals to live
some are herbivores, some are CARNIVORES
humans are omnivores, we are meant to eat both, and thats evident in which diets are more healthy for us. a carnivore diet is not healthy-- and NEITHER is a vegan diet
a balanced diet is still optimal to maintain your health

@RatPoo Yes, I am admitting I love to bully people for amusement and no I will not seek help as there is nothing wrong with me. Keep crying it makes me laugh

@RatPoo Yes, I am admitting I love to bully people for amusement and no I will not seek help as there is nothing wrong with me. Keep crying it makes me laugh

@FractalDust these paragraphs I'm a year late damn

@FractalDust these paragraphs I'm a year late damn

Joshvante Qaurtillias LaMeatly Bingleton III

.gay. pink hair ( sign of mental health), obsessed with eggplants, blm and lil nas x. yh hes a leftist all right

.gay. pink hair ( sign of mental health), obsessed with eggplants, blm and lil nas x. yh hes a leftist all right

@Peenutz you are clearly eating meat and saying screw animals, screw the environment and screw human lives too since you didn't have a single counter argument to any of the points I raised other than meat tastes good to you so you don't care.

Try some vegan food sometime because I think you are inflating the taste of meat greatly, all meat is seasoned with plants and plant sauces, you are clearly just a victim of advertising if you think meat is the only good tasting food. Chick fil a has got you by the balls, go take a look how they treat that chicken that becomes your sandwich and tell me it is worth it. Take a look at the process, not the commercial.

@FractalDust boy I think it is a fact that eating food provides seratonin in the brain and that creates a drive for people to want to recreate that feeling more, nobody who eats meat is like yeah screw animals they suck so much and also chick fil a be bussin and that ain’t gonna change

@FractalDust boy I think it is a fact that eating food provides seratonin in the brain and that creates a drive for people to want to recreate that feeling more, nobody who eats meat is like yeah screw animals they suck so much and also chick fil a be bussin and that ain’t gonna change

@Peenutz I am confused, how is that a proven fact?

let's assume you are correct just for the sake of it even though you supply no evidence and just claim it is fact.

do you think it is joyful for humans to be slaughtering billions of animals? or is it only joyful when you can consume the end product and forget about how it was made?

do you think it is joyful for us to produce food for billions of animals just so people can eat meat when we could use that food water and land for something else?

do you think it is joyful for humans to get more viruses from close contact with farm animals?

do you think it is joyful for us to produce antibiotic resistant bacteria by pumping animals full of antibiotics?

it appears your 'proven fact' fails to take into consideration that maybe taste is not the most important thing for the human race.

@FractalDust I can understand the sentiment but tbh your wasting your time, it’s a proven fact that the human mind will look out for itself and seek what brings it joy, and for most people eating meat is a form of that

@FractalDust I can understand the sentiment but tbh your wasting your time, it’s a proven fact that the human mind will look out for itself and seek what brings it joy, and for most people eating meat is a form of that

@FractalDust this boi been arguing for almost a straight year. If the reason your fighting for wasn’t so dumb I’d probably be impressed.

@FractalDust this boi been arguing for almost a straight year. If the reason your fighting for wasn’t so dumb I’d probably be impressed.

@Dome ok then your position is you don't care and don't want change, it is a shame you cannot see what could be and can only see what is.

@Dome ok then your position is you don't care and don't want change, it is a shame you cannot see what could be and can only see what is.

@FractalDust all of this just to get slightly better numbers. Unless a vegan world gives us sci-fi tech by 2100, I and essentially the rest of the world does not care about 100k workers suffering on a job they where they knew what would happen, a couple more resources for antibiotics when we’re not mass suffering some war against bacteria,  etc etc.

I’ll leave it at this. Have a good day or night

@FractalDust all of this just to get slightly better numbers. Unless a vegan world gives us sci-fi tech by 2100, I and essentially the rest of the world does not care about 100k workers suffering on a job they where they knew what would happen, a couple more resources for antibiotics when we’re not mass suffering some war against bacteria,  etc etc.

I’ll leave it at this. Have a good day or night

@Dome
1. of course it would be a slow change, I think it would be unrealistic otherwise. take a look at the numbers for methane produced by cows and take a look at how much food water and energy we use to produce meat compared to plants.

2. they may choose to work there but it is an unnecessary job in a vegan world. if we can eliminate a job which is not only causing harm to animals but also humans would that not be preferable?

3. we may not run out of actual antibiotics but do some research on antibiotic resistant bacteria, we are accelerating this by humans not completing their antibiotic cycles but that is completely dwarfed by the billions of animals we use antibiotics on. I think it is better to have less antibiotic resistant diseases rather than more.

4. if you want to make false comparisons like eating lettuce to eating a burger you can or you can be more charitable and look at potatoes and legumes in terms of nutrients and efficiency.

5. glad to see you didn't push back on the virus part, viruses jump from species to species due to close contact and  we have 6 million dead from coronavirus. diseases like the flu have killed so many more over the years and a world with less diseases is surely better than one with more.

@FractalDust 1. I don’t think emissions from the meat industry being removed will be some sort of big change (when the meat industry being removed would 100% be a slowly change) for our already dying earth.
2. As I said, downside for upside, and they chose to work there. Besides, don’t think the history books would sound great if somewhere it says “The meat industry was abolished because of the 100k workers that may or may have not suffered issues”
3. You’re making it seem like we’re in a shortage of antibiotics, or that we would have some godly universal healthcare if we stopped giving to the animals, don’t think it works like that
4. Remember how I mentioned caloric density? You know what density is, right? Sure, we lose more calories overall, but that doesn’t matter when you have to eat a table sized lettuce to gain the same calories as a steak (hyperbole example)

@Dome just because something is happening does not mean that it should continue to happen unchallenged until the end of time. There are many things which we did in the past which we ended for the betterment of society and the planet.

you can call everything I am saying irrelevant as much as you want but you are taking the position of not caring about human lives and animal lives if you do that, we can make the world better and when we have the ability to do so, we should do it.

take a look at emissions from the meat industry if you care about the environment, take a look at the mental health issues for slaughterhouse workers if you care about them, take a look at viruses which we get from animals if you care about our health, take a look at the antibiotics we use on animals if you care about medicine, take a look at the calories we produce to feed animals if you want to look at it mathematically. take a look at how the animals are treated and slaughtered if you care about the well being of animals.  ignore all of that if you want the world to remain the same.

@FractalDust Well we decided that eating delicious (and calorie dense) food is better than more antibiotics allocated to us (besides the fact that we’re too lost into meat already, because you know, eating meat has been a thing for a thousand years)

After all, it’s not all about health, but personal enjoyment, and we still live good. The whole slaughterhouse statistic is irrelevant when it’s not even 1% of the population dedicated to such job, yet they provide for millions or even billions. After all, every upside has it downside. (Correct me otherwise)

tl;dr meat is great and we’re too far deep into the rabbit hole. change is not happening.

@Dome the upsides are that we can keep antibiotics for humans instead of using them on billions of factory animals, we get less diseases transmitted to humans through less contact with them, we save resources overall, animals eat plants to produce meat to make less calories overall, we can now just focus on making plant food for humans instead of making plant food for billions of animals, animal agriculture uses up food water and land in order to make calories, look up trophic levels. Slaughterhouse workers also have poor mental health and are more likely to commit crime.

if it was necessary for us to consume animals to survive, it would suck but we would not have any better option but we have other options and we can make it happen

@FractalDust so we lose good tastes in exchange of… uhm… uh… animals not dying which in turns affects us by… uh… making us feel good?

Only upside I can see from this is less meat-related deaths, but every upside has it downside, which would apply to eating plants only as well. As far as I’m aware of, meat just surpasses most vegetables in calories and certain nutritional values if the serving is the same, which I feel like is an upside that completely crushes the health risks of meat (which can be suppressed or avoided) and certainly the issue of animal torture which exists only because of morals, and would not really be an intelligent path to take.

I’m all for making animal torture less common but abolishing the meat industry as a whole? I don’t see what we could gain out of this

@Zoro there is no humane way to enslave and slaughter billions of animals for food in my view, the one thing you can change is if you want to take part in it or not

@Zoro there is no humane way to enslave and slaughter billions of animals for food in my view, the one thing you can change is if you want to take part in it or not

@FractalDust dang ur subscribed to tier zoo that's a W

@FractalDust dang ur subscribed to tier zoo that's a W

@FractalDust keyword "prefer" not once did I say it's done humanely I said I'd prefer it were but I cant change shit and it wont get in the way of me eating a burger call me evil but I'm just not as nice as you and dont give too much damns about a cow. Or should I restate myself. Food.

@FractalDust keyword "prefer" not once did I say it's done humanely I said I'd prefer it were but I cant change shit and it wont get in the way of me eating a burger call me evil but I'm just not as nice as you and dont give too much damns about a cow. Or should I restate myself. Food.

@FractalDust I didnt say it's done humanely and also humanely means to do something harmful or deadly without causing any pain for example getting your pets euthanized and bro you should give up ur tryna make it seem wrong that idc about animals being killed and tbh ye that's the truth meat is nutritious meat is from animals we must kill if we want meat end of u can choose to not eat meat for ethical reasons but personally I'm not the one causing suffering so why should I stop eating meat if it wont change shit unless 7 billion other people decide to do so also replying to this whilst eating chicken legs😋

@Zoro if you think it is preferable for humans to kill animals until the end of time just because we can then I don't know, maybe you should really find out why we should continue to cause unnecessary harm, is this something you truly believe or is this just how the world is and you can't see it any differently?

I do think that it is wrong to cause unnecessary pain and suffering to animals, even if we kill them 'humanely' whatever the hell that means, take a look at how the animals are treated all the way up until their death, they are generally kept in cramped conditions, males are castrated, females are artificiality impregnated, there is nothing humane about our treatment of animals in food production.

@FractalDust I dont wanna be a guardian of life I wanna be above the circle of life and choose what I take and eat just. Humanely you know? Seriously I'm not ever gonna go vegan cuz I dont see what you guys see u sound like most of em tryna victimise people for eating meat because its "wrong" and "were above it" as long as I'm an animal and an omnivore then I'm not above it I'm part of the food chain

@FractalDust I dont wanna be a guardian of life I wanna be above the circle of life and choose what I take and eat just. Humanely you know? Seriously I'm not ever gonna go vegan cuz I dont see what you guys see u sound like most of em tryna victimise people for eating meat because its "wrong" and "were above it" as long as I'm an animal and an omnivore then I'm not above it I'm part of the food chain

@Zoro just because they would not treat us well doesn't mean that we as the most intelligent species should condemn them to death, we can be guardians of life instead of never ending slaughter

@Zoro just because they would not treat us well doesn't mean that we as the most intelligent species should condemn them to death, we can be guardians of life instead of never ending slaughter

@FractalDust cats and dogs do it even when it's not nessacary to their survival my point is animals dont have morals so I wont treat them like humans when if they had power theyd treat me like food

@FractalDust cats and dogs do it even when it's not nessacary to their survival my point is animals dont have morals so I wont treat them like humans when if they had power theyd treat me like food

@Zoro I think it is not a very strong argument to condemn other sentient beings to death just because they are not our species and not as intelligent as humans, especially given that it is not necessary for our survival. It causes environmental damage, it is a waste of antibiotics, we get more diseases from close contact with animals in farming and it is damaging to the health of the people who produce the meat.

We do not need to hold ourselves to the standard of a dog or cat killing a bird, we can think more deeply and not cause harm unless it is necessary for our survival.

@Zoro I think it is not a very strong argument to condemn other sentient beings to death just because they are not our species and not as intelligent as humans, especially given that it is not necessary for our survival. It causes environmental damage, it is a waste of antibiotics, we get more diseases from close contact with animals in farming and it is damaging to the health of the people who produce the meat.

We do not need to hold ourselves to the standard of a dog or cat killing a bird, we can think more deeply and not cause harm unless it is necessary for our survival.

@FractalDust the thing is I dont see animals as humans so I dont think it's wrong to kill them as long as it's done humanely since we know that much animals dont have morals nor a high enough iq to understand others maybe domesticated animals but even then a domesticated dog will still rip a bird to shreds for fun and cats. So I see it wrong to kill them inhumanely but I dont think its wrong to kill them as long as u respect the circle of life and dont waste food. :) and bro I'm not gonna stop eating meat because my problem isnt the meat or the killing it's the shady shit that goes on in the shadows

@Zoro well you already admitted you don't like how it is produced so maybe after this talk you will go look into it more and change your mind. I don't expect you to do a 180 just from my YouTube comments. It will be a slow change for sure but I think it is a cause that all humans won't really think about just like murder, some people will still do it and of course killing in self defense is always justifiable. Change happens slowly but I would rather live in a world where we don't treat animals terribly just because we like their taste.

@Zoro well you already admitted you don't like how it is produced so maybe after this talk you will go look into it more and change your mind. I don't expect you to do a 180 just from my YouTube comments. It will be a slow change for sure but I think it is a cause that all humans won't really think about just like murder, some people will still do it and of course killing in self defense is always justifiable. Change happens slowly but I would rather live in a world where we don't treat animals terribly just because we like their taste.

@FractalDust I dont support animal abuse I support eating a fat juicy steak just cuz I like eating it doesnt man I support what happens how about u stop debating online and go and make a change by infiltrating the industry and doing things "the right way" since your vegan because animals are treated bad go and treat them animals good see what difference it makes rather than tryna convince 7 billion people to stop eating nutritious meat.

@FractalDust I dont support animal abuse I support eating a fat juicy steak just cuz I like eating it doesnt man I support what happens how about u stop debating online and go and make a change by infiltrating the industry and doing things "the right way" since your vegan because animals are treated bad go and treat them animals good see what difference it makes rather than tryna convince 7 billion people to stop eating nutritious meat.

@Zoro we don't need to treat animals terribly just because we think they would do the same to us, we can be better than that. Why should we cause unnecessary harm when we have alternatives?

@Zoro we don't need to treat animals terribly just because we think they would do the same to us, we can be better than that. Why should we cause unnecessary harm when we have alternatives?

@Zoro take a look at studies, vegan diets can be safe for all stages of human life, I guess you could eat rocks and it is technically vegans and you die but we do not need to eat animal products to survive

@Zoro take a look at studies, vegan diets can be safe for all stages of human life, I guess you could eat rocks and it is technically vegans and you die but we do not need to eat animal products to survive

@FractalDust meat helps babies develop if u feed a child a vegan diet it fucking dies that should let u know meat is needed and healthy you miss out on some nutrients u can eat your veggies whilst I eat everything

@FractalDust meat helps babies develop if u feed a child a vegan diet it fucking dies that should let u know meat is needed and healthy you miss out on some nutrients u can eat your veggies whilst I eat everything

@FractalDust man idc food is food cry about it animals would do the same too if they were in our position of the food chain

@FractalDust man idc food is food cry about it animals would do the same too if they were in our position of the food chain

He seemed like a nice person... until he threatened to smash their camera, that wasn't nice.

He seemed like a nice person... until he threatened to smash their camera, that wasn't nice.

@iSuckAtGamesGG ah yeah, except that's what everyone ELSE is TRYING to do. You're the issue.

@iSuckAtGamesGG ah yeah, except that's what everyone ELSE is TRYING to do. You're the issue.

@A B not my problem and even when it does become my problem i cant nor could i have done anything to stop it

@A B not my problem and even when it does become my problem i cant nor could i have done anything to stop it

@iSuckAtGamesGG the bigger picture is, if humans kill all the animals too fast. Then no more meat. That is a fact. And it's happening.

@iSuckAtGamesGG the bigger picture is, if humans kill all the animals too fast. Then no more meat. That is a fact. And it's happening.

@regis blessbin animals aren't "made for" anything. They're animals. Nature. We're humans, the exact same thing. Living creatures. We aren't above anything else. You're no more special that a dog. You may think you are, but it is not so. Seek help

@regis blessbin animals aren't "made for" anything. They're animals. Nature. We're humans, the exact same thing. Living creatures. We aren't above anything else. You're no more special that a dog. You may think you are, but it is not so. Seek help

@Mike F DESERVE to die? Bro, you sound edgy. They're animals. Alive. Living. Obviously they will die. But DESERVE sounds like you're a psychopath.  Get help

@Mike F DESERVE to die? Bro, you sound edgy. They're animals. Alive. Living. Obviously they will die. But DESERVE sounds like you're a psychopath.  Get help

@FalseAlarm911 that's kinda sad actually

@FalseAlarm911 that's kinda sad actually

@Majima Goro of Pripyat we breed animals into the world for slaughter, we are creating the animal overpopulation and constantly killing them. I would be for a slow change over time so that we don't destabilise the economy and we can breed less and less animals for slaughter eventually eliminating the problem. We killed many predators so some species get out of control, we introduce invasive species into places they don't naturally occur in and create a problem and we artificially inseminate many animals to boost our production.

@Majima Goro of Pripyat we breed animals into the world for slaughter, we are creating the animal overpopulation and constantly killing them. I would be for a slow change over time so that we don't destabilise the economy and we can breed less and less animals for slaughter eventually eliminating the problem. We killed many predators so some species get out of control, we introduce invasive species into places they don't naturally occur in and create a problem and we artificially inseminate many animals to boost our production.

@FractalDust ok but what about animal overpopulation!!

@FractalDust ok but what about animal overpopulation!!

@Majima Goro of Pripyat it isn't the worst thing in the world but I find it especially bad when people troll people who are trying to make positive change in the world, billions of animals die each year and it is bad for them losing their lives, the environment and the mental health of those who produce it. Jidion is going in a much better direction lately but I really hate to see vegans and climate activists or any group trying to make the world better mocked for views online. I hope he stays on his new path of having conversations with people, it is so much better.

@Majima Goro of Pripyat it isn't the worst thing in the world but I find it especially bad when people troll people who are trying to make positive change in the world, billions of animals die each year and it is bad for them losing their lives, the environment and the mental health of those who produce it. Jidion is going in a much better direction lately but I really hate to see vegans and climate activists or any group trying to make the world better mocked for views online. I hope he stays on his new path of having conversations with people, it is so much better.

@FractalDust little of harmless trolling does nothing bad

@FractalDust little of harmless trolling does nothing bad

@Majima Goro of Pripyat I think trolling workers for views is bad, they did nothing to warrant this and he is actively making a mockery of these businesses, the workers and the vegan movement

@Majima Goro of Pripyat I think trolling workers for views is bad, they did nothing to warrant this and he is actively making a mockery of these businesses, the workers and the vegan movement

and March for blm but won't take a tup from. a black man lol

and March for blm but won't take a tup from. a black man lol

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 one way or the other there is gonna be meat available on our plates and I don't care if its human. You don't make friends with salad.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 one way or the other there is gonna be meat available on our plates and I don't care if its human. You don't make friends with salad.

@Mike F what’s the solution to letting every animal die of natural causes??? Animals everywhere over populated.

@Mike F what’s the solution to letting every animal die of natural causes??? Animals everywhere over populated.

@FractalDust if pigs are so smart then why do 66% of them build houses with STUPID, INEFFECTIVE MATERIALS

@FractalDust if pigs are so smart then why do 66% of them build houses with STUPID, INEFFECTIVE MATERIALS

@FractalDust and i dont like oreos or skittles

@FractalDust and i dont like oreos or skittles

@FractalDust oh almost like no mátter what life is always the same the top of food chain kill lower one if you care so much about plant and animals killing your self Would be the best but nobody gonna do that

@FractalDust oh almost like no mátter what life is always the same the top of food chain kill lower one if you care so much about plant and animals killing your self Would be the best but nobody gonna do that

@Caleb Acosta well at least you admit you don't care about animals so you probably don't care about plants feeling anything either. If you do care about plants you may be surprised to hear that animals eat plants to build up their bodies before we slaughter them, more plants die from animal agriculture than if we just ate plants. We can just stop breeding animals slowly over time as more people go vegan, we don't have to let billions of animals loose into the wild. Many animals are the result of artificial insemination and we could just stop doing that to slowly bring down the number we produce for slaughter. You may not care about animals but take a look at the environmental damage and the bacteria and viral issues as they effect all of us, plant based diets are heavily correlated with a longer lifespan too as long as you don't just eat skittles and Oreos which are also vegan

@FractalDust yea plant are good but Meat still very important and i still do not care the animals lets say all go vegan and we let animals free the animals will die they have become domesticated and will become Meat for other animals oh yea plant feel stuff to there alive when you cut grass the smell is them telling there danger and in pain   so i still dont care and if we all went vegan right now the World woudnt be able to keep everyone alive for the amount we Would consume and we amount factory built will do alot of harm

@FractalDust yea plant are good but Meat still very important and i still do not care the animals lets say all go vegan and we let animals free the animals will die they have become domesticated and will become Meat for other animals oh yea plant feel stuff to there alive when you cut grass the smell is them telling there danger and in pain   so i still dont care and if we all went vegan right now the World woudnt be able to keep everyone alive for the amount we Would consume and we amount factory built will do alot of harm

@Caleb Acosta if you think modern agriculture is reflective of the food chain you see completely wrong. Look up the environmental impact of animal agriculture, it is not sustainable long-term, the antibiotics we use of billions of animals instead of humans and the viruses and diseases we get from animal agriculture.<br>Meat tastes good but so do many vegan foods, I don't think that we should cause so much harm to other sentient beings, the planet and ourselves just because of a taste preference personally. If you look up blue zones, these are areas with the longest lived humans and they eat a mainly plant based diet

@Caleb Acosta if you think modern agriculture is reflective of the food chain you see completely wrong. Look up the environmental impact of animal agriculture, it is not sustainable long-term, the antibiotics we use of billions of animals instead of humans and the viruses and diseases we get from animal agriculture.
Meat tastes good but so do many vegan foods, I don't think that we should cause so much harm to other sentient beings, the planet and ourselves just because of a taste preference personally. If you look up blue zones, these are areas with the longest lived humans and they eat a mainly plant based diet

@FractalDust yea Meat still very important and more tasty and food chain always been like this the one in bottom die get eaten

@FractalDust yea Meat still very important and more tasty and food chain always been like this the one in bottom die get eaten

@Caleb Acosta lions have to eat meat, they are carnivores. Humans can live off just plants or plants and animals. You may notice humans eat cooked meat unlike a lion, our digestive system is best at digesting fruit.

@Caleb Acosta lions have to eat meat, they are carnivores. Humans can live off just plants or plants and animals. You may notice humans eat cooked meat unlike a lion, our digestive system is best at digesting fruit.

@FractalDust ill become Vegan once the lion stop eat grass

@FractalDust ill become Vegan once the lion stop eat grass

@Caleb Acosta it is not entirely accurate that I am leaving more for you, less animals will die overall from less demand generated from vegans but we can always breed and slaughter as many animals as people demand despite all the harm it causes

@Caleb Acosta it is not entirely accurate that I am leaving more for you, less animals will die overall from less demand generated from vegans but we can always breed and slaughter as many animals as people demand despite all the harm it causes

@Caleb Acosta ah yes, because humans are obligate carnivores fighting for their lives with no other means of sustenance just like lions 🤡 and humans also don't possess moral agency much like lions too i am pretty sure 🤡. I always compare myself to wild animals to justify my actions 🤡. Breeding billions of genetically engineered animals via artificial insemination in massive breeding sheds, fattening them up and systematically slaughtering them = circle of life 🤡.

Ps. Food Chain argument is stupid, food chain is just one way of categorizing and classifying tropic levels and energy distribution in an ecological system. Food chain is not a formula for moral life, it has nothing to do with ethics and in fact, it makes it completely ok to kill and eat humans for instance if we so desired just because we are tertiary consumers and omnivores and so on and so forth

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 ahh yes forget the food chain why dont you go ask a lion to stop eating Meat and eat grass

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 ahh yes forget the food chain why dont you go ask a lion to stop eating Meat and eat grass

@FractalDust cool i really like youre Vegan and i respect leaving more for me ty

@FractalDust cool i really like youre Vegan and i respect leaving more for me ty

@Caleb Acosta as long as you admit you don't care about their deaths and the damages of animal agriculture on the environment, the viruses we get from animal agriculture as well as the antibiotics we waste on them instead of humans then you are making an informed choice but one I personally don't agree with

@Caleb Acosta as long as you admit you don't care about their deaths and the damages of animal agriculture on the environment, the viruses we get from animal agriculture as well as the antibiotics we waste on them instead of humans then you are making an informed choice but one I personally don't agree with

@FractalDust love how people act like a lack of empathy for animals and the environment is something to be proud of 💀

@FractalDust love how people act like a lack of empathy for animals and the environment is something to be proud of 💀

@FractalDust thank you for being the only one with a bit of sense here 😭

@FractalDust thank you for being the only one with a bit of sense here 😭

@Rizzzzzza <b>yeah meat seriously a necessity I couldn’t live without, and you know as long as it tastes good then who cares about the process to get it.</b> Just need to lose some empathy and you’re an emotionless dipshit eating dead things.

@Rizzzzzza *yeah meat seriously a necessity I couldn’t live without, and you know as long as it tastes good then who cares about the process to get it.* Just need to lose some empathy and you’re an emotionless dipshit eating dead things.

@Darth Yoda ur a couple months late, should've said this when i remembered what i was talking about

@Darth Yoda ur a couple months late, should've said this when i remembered what i was talking about

@iSuckAtGamesGG literally no Chinese restaurants sell dogs,if not none it’s a very very very low amount,thats quite an old thing which is continued as a stereotype,some may do it but not every Chinese restaurant lol

@iSuckAtGamesGG literally no Chinese restaurants sell dogs,if not none it’s a very very very low amount,thats quite an old thing which is continued as a stereotype,some may do it but not every Chinese restaurant lol

@FractalDust wasted too much time reading this whole thread, respect for standing up for what u believe in

@FractalDust wasted too much time reading this whole thread, respect for standing up for what u believe in

@Rizzzzzza at least you are willing to admit that you have had your consent manufactured by for profit companies and you are ok with the planet being destroyed and billions of animals being slaughtered just because you don't care lol

@Rizzzzzza at least you are willing to admit that you have had your consent manufactured by for profit companies and you are ok with the planet being destroyed and billions of animals being slaughtered just because you don't care lol

@FractalDust Like the vast majority of the planet, I don’t care lol.

@FractalDust Like the vast majority of the planet, I don’t care lol.

@Rizzzzzza it is impossible to go full vegan, simply by existing we cause harm to other beings. It is simply more preferable to cause less harm than more harm when we have the ability to do so.

You can keep telling yourself that the billions of unnecessary breeding and slaughtering is something we should do just because we will always kill termites I'm self defense or always disrupt animals by farming plants all you want.

We waste antibiotics on animals instead of humans, we develop zoonotic diseases from animals, slaughterhouse workers have poor mental health from their job, people develop heart disease from over consuming meat and we waste resources growing plants to feed to animals so that we can eat their corpses. But you think we should just keep doing all of those bad things because we can never fully stop all harm, you have a destructive and pessimistic view of our future.

@FractalDust The entire world will likely never go full vegan. That’s a pipe dream lol.

@FractalDust The entire world will likely never go full vegan. That’s a pipe dream lol.

@Circle yes you did, go watch it or remain willfully blind to what is happening around you. You @ messaged me so here I am

@Circle yes you did, go watch it or remain willfully blind to what is happening around you. You @ messaged me so here I am

@Circle you clearly want to hear more because you are giving me notifications.

Go take a look at some slaughterhouse footage and find out how your burger is made from a tortured animal

@Circle you clearly want to hear more because you are giving me notifications.

Go take a look at some slaughterhouse footage and find out how your burger is made from a tortured animal

@FractalDust Just stop. Even 6 months later no one gives a crap.

@FractalDust Just stop. Even 6 months later no one gives a crap.

@Dylan lol, i got a stroke reading this. how do you know that he's fake gay XD how is he acting cuz he's more on the feminine site - so if i'm gay and vegan i am automatically a fake gay person? why would someone fake their sexuality, what is the prize for that?! XD

@Dylan lol, i got a stroke reading this. how do you know that he's fake gay XD how is he acting cuz he's more on the feminine site - so if i'm gay and vegan i am automatically a fake gay person? why would someone fake their sexuality, what is the prize for that?! XD

@Sonny Lewis just because you make up a reason for why we do things doesn't mean it is the right thing to do and it doesn't mean that it should not be questioned and changed.

Do you really think we gas pigs to death for a good reason? Do we forcibly impregnate cows for a good reason? When a lamb or a baby chick is killed, is that for a good reason?

Do you really believe we are killing innocent animals for good reasons or is it just more convenient for you to tell yourself there is a good reason without doing the research and without looking at the horrific way we treat animals, especially in factory farming situations.

@FractalDust the animals were out here for a reason….

@FractalDust the animals were out here for a reason….

@vibez watch it while eating your food every day if it means nothing to you. If it still doesn't effect you then I guess you are just the perfect customer for the meat industry, you know what they hide and you still think it should happen.

@vibez watch it while eating your food every day if it means nothing to you. If it still doesn't effect you then I guess you are just the perfect customer for the meat industry, you know what they hide and you still think it should happen.

@FractalDust I have already watched cowspiracy

@FractalDust I have already watched cowspiracy

@vibez ok, take a look at how they make the meat and then tell me the same thing. Most people can't eat the meat while also watching it being made

@vibez ok, take a look at how they make the meat and then tell me the same thing. Most people can't eat the meat while also watching it being made

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 lmfao you been crying for months now and you ain't mad, sureeee. Lmfao what a clown.

"Oh oh ur think u r edgy"
-your goofy self.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 lmfao you been crying for months now and you ain't mad, sureeee. Lmfao what a clown.

"Oh oh ur think u r edgy"
-your goofy self.

@vibez not mad at all lol, just cringing from unoriginality of your trolling. Come on now, you could have come up with something better than that.

@vibez not mad at all lol, just cringing from unoriginality of your trolling. Come on now, you could have come up with something better than that.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 I would rather use them to cut some steak...mmhhhmmm tasty and you being mad mad makes it better.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 I would rather use them to cut some steak...mmhhhmmm tasty and you being mad mad makes it better.

@vibez careful not to cut yourself with all those edges

@vibez careful not to cut yourself with all those edges

@FractalDust I just love eating them animals

@FractalDust I just love eating them animals

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 nahh animals are made for me to eat them, if they don't want it then they should fight back. Weaklings

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 nahh animals are made for me to eat them, if they don't want it then they should fight back. Weaklings

@FractalDust you are a ridiculous human being, you know that, right? Humans have been eating meat since humans have been around, there is nothing unnatural about it. What, are you going to try and lecture wolves and lions about killing other animals for food next, you silly sausage? 😂

@FractalDust you are a ridiculous human being, you know that, right? Humans have been eating meat since humans have been around, there is nothing unnatural about it. What, are you going to try and lecture wolves and lions about killing other animals for food next, you silly sausage? 😂

@thrax bottom you clearly don't understand what the word impose means, just stop reading what I am saying if it upsets you. you are advocating that we impose death on animals, I am not imposing anything

@thrax bottom you clearly don't understand what the word impose means, just stop reading what I am saying if it upsets you. you are advocating that we impose death on animals, I am not imposing anything

@FractalDust and here you are wishing you could impose your views on others.

@FractalDust and here you are wishing you could impose your views on others.

@FractalDust there's no such thing as unnatural. Within what is permitted by the laws of nature -- in other words, what doesn't defy physics, biology, physiology, etc. is natural. Unnatural is a meaningless word often used to castigate and persecute vulnerable members of our society in a cultural sense and i really wish you would stop.

@FractalDust there's no such thing as unnatural. Within what is permitted by the laws of nature -- in other words, what doesn't defy physics, biology, physiology, etc. is natural. Unnatural is a meaningless word often used to castigate and persecute vulnerable members of our society in a cultural sense and i really wish you would stop.

He has so much soy in him it’s so funny and sad 💀💀💀

He has so much soy in him it’s so funny and sad 💀💀💀

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@Mack so basically it is necessary in order to live longer and healthier lives

@Mack so basically it is necessary in order to live longer and healthier lives

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 who says they can’t be 😏

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 who says they can’t be 😏

@Dylan my cousin was vegan and it was making her angry and depressed she’s a happy person now

@Dylan my cousin was vegan and it was making her angry and depressed she’s a happy person now

@Mack Lives are certainly shorter for animals if we kill them and turn them into a sandwich, I agree.

If you think humans live longer eating meat please send me some evidence because I have never seen that claim substantiated

@Mack Lives are certainly shorter for animals if we kill them and turn them into a sandwich, I agree.

If you think humans live longer eating meat please send me some evidence because I have never seen that claim substantiated

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 not where I live. In America we grow a surplus of food so it's not the developing world growing it for us. But anyway the more meat you eat the healthier you are

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 not where I live. In America we grow a surplus of food so it's not the developing world growing it for us. But anyway the more meat you eat the healthier you are

@Mack why do you think so? There are 10 billion people on earth and we annually slaughter 70-90 billion land animals and 1.5-3 trillion marine animals. This is considering only 18% of our calories come from animal products on average. Consider also the fact that your average cow requires 20x more food than an average human.

Can you imagine how much food it takes to feed so many animals in exchange for only 18% of our daily calories? If it wasn't for the animals, we would have been able to feed the world's population 5 times over. The reality is that all those  crops grown in poor countries are used to feed the animals in the developed world.

@FractalDust it's not necessary but lives would be shorter and the quality would be worse

@FractalDust it's not necessary but lives would be shorter and the quality would be worse

@Stop It smart man right here 🤝. I used to be vegan as well along with my dad but we realized it was affecting our health even with all of the vitamin supplements and everything. Now we eat mainly meat, my dad eating strictly meat and we are much healthier. He no longer has diabetes and lost 45 pounds getting all of the vitamins he needs by eating many different types of meats.

@Stop It smart man right here 🤝. I used to be vegan as well along with my dad but we realized it was affecting our health even with all of the vitamin supplements and everything. Now we eat mainly meat, my dad eating strictly meat and we are much healthier. He no longer has diabetes and lost 45 pounds getting all of the vitamins he needs by eating many different types of meats.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 so many would starve if we decided to turn vegan as a whole

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 so many would starve if we decided to turn vegan as a whole

@FractalDust the world is kill or be killed. We would be dead without eating others and so would cows.

@FractalDust the world is kill or be killed. We would be dead without eating others and so would cows.

@Zethrane your comment somehow translated to bees

@Zethrane your comment somehow translated to bees

@Papa John so everyone should just take part in it even if they think it is wrong and unnecessary?

Appeal to futility fallacy and I doubt it is something you would say to activists trying to stop humans from being harmed

@Papa John so everyone should just take part in it even if they think it is wrong and unnecessary?

Appeal to futility fallacy and I doubt it is something you would say to activists trying to stop humans from being harmed

@FractalDust They're not stopping animal cruelty by refusing to eat meat, though. It's something I never understood, it's not like companies are going to stop killing animals just because a small percentage of the Earth is vegan.

@FractalDust They're not stopping animal cruelty by refusing to eat meat, though. It's something I never understood, it's not like companies are going to stop killing animals just because a small percentage of the Earth is vegan.

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@FractalDust also nuggets taste very good

@FractalDust also nuggets taste very good

@FractalDust I told you you REMIND me of someone who did that

@FractalDust I told you you REMIND me of someone who did that

@FractalDust didn’t say you were harassing us.

@FractalDust didn’t say you were harassing us.

@Frontier Sonic how am I harassing people? This video Is harassment against vegans and that is all I am pointing out.

What is worse than harassment is being turned into nuggets for someone else to have a meal when it is not necessary.

@Frontier Sonic how am I harassing people? This video Is harassment against vegans and that is all I am pointing out.

What is worse than harassment is being turned into nuggets for someone else to have a meal when it is not necessary.

@FractalDust Bro you remind me of this channel that harasses me just for eating chicken nuggets from mcdonalds

@FractalDust Bro you remind me of this channel that harasses me just for eating chicken nuggets from mcdonalds

@FractalDust Suffering is what makes the meat taste good, I'll keep eating it

@FractalDust Suffering is what makes the meat taste good, I'll keep eating it

@Woofnberg you owe it to yourself to watch a documentary like Dominion to see how that steak was made

I don't think the pain and suffering we put them through is worth having a tasty meal

@Woofnberg you owe it to yourself to watch a documentary like Dominion to see how that steak was made

I don't think the pain and suffering we put them through is worth having a tasty meal

@FractalDust Just got back from a steakhouse, if eating meat is animal abuse, then hell yeah!!

@FractalDust Just got back from a steakhouse, if eating meat is animal abuse, then hell yeah!!

@FalseAlarm911 I mean I love my meat man but he has every right to be annoyed with jidion here bro, understand that

@FalseAlarm911 I mean I love my meat man but he has every right to be annoyed with jidion here bro, understand that

@quincee First off, it was obviously just a joke. Secondly, I didn’t say that was all vegans. There are tons of vegans that are the complete opposite of that.

@quincee First off, it was obviously just a joke. Secondly, I didn’t say that was all vegans. There are tons of vegans that are the complete opposite of that.

@The Legend Himself 'The vegan set: dyed hair, fragile and skinny (because no meat), most likely homosexual, feminine actions and voice.'

- you

@The Legend Himself 'The vegan set: dyed hair, fragile and skinny (because no meat), most likely homosexual, feminine actions and voice.'

- you

@quincee you clearly had no point at all. Your argument had no structure at all. You keep saying I said things when I really didn’t, making tons of assumptions, and bringing up shit that’s barely related to the topic. If you’re going to jump into a conversation, at least know what you’re talking about. Caio :)

@quincee you clearly had no point at all. Your argument had no structure at all. You keep saying I said things when I really didn’t, making tons of assumptions, and bringing up shit that’s barely related to the topic. If you’re going to jump into a conversation, at least know what you’re talking about. Caio :)

@The Legend Himself You now snap to an argument that you 'agree to disagree' and about not 'shoving your beliefs in someone's face', but you're the one that called all vegans gay, weak etc.. I'm not humouring this comment section any more, I'm not going to change anyone's mind so who cares? Ciao.

@The Legend Himself You now snap to an argument that you 'agree to disagree' and about not 'shoving your beliefs in someone's face', but you're the one that called all vegans gay, weak etc.. I'm not humouring this comment section any more, I'm not going to change anyone's mind so who cares? Ciao.

@quincee You keep saying I claim all of these things when I said such. I never said that all vegans were frail. You mad that up yourself, but want to call me an ignorant bum. And I never talked shit about veganism, I simply stated why I disagree with it. But apparently you couldn’t read that. Yes, I do disagree with it and you can’t change that. My opinion is different than yours but I still don’t shove my beliefs in your face. I personally do not agree with what you said but you can believe that if you want to. I’m hoping you read this but from what I have read, you probably won’t read all of it. Everything in this reply section is opinions or different beliefs. It’s changing literally nothing.

@The Legend Himself Because the guy is jacked; you want to claim vegans are frail? Square up to him or any one of the other vegan combat sports athletes.

Don't be an ignorant bum, go do some research before you start talking shit about veganism. You can disagree with it personally, but it is far and away one of the healthiest diets you can follow if you know how to cook.

@The Legend Himself Because the guy is jacked; you want to claim vegans are frail? Square up to him or any one of the other vegan combat sports athletes.

Don't be an ignorant bum, go do some research before you start talking shit about veganism. You can disagree with it personally, but it is far and away one of the healthiest diets you can follow if you know how to cook.

@quincee I never said there was something in meat that you couldn’t get in plants. You got that completely out of nowhere. And where the hell did you get locked in a room with Ryback Reeves from? If you don’t have a point you can exit the conversation.

@quincee I never said there was something in meat that you couldn’t get in plants. You got that completely out of nowhere. And where the hell did you get locked in a room with Ryback Reeves from? If you don’t have a point you can exit the conversation.

@The Legend Himself There is nothing in meat you can't get in plants, so you can pack that stereotype in. Don't suppose you'd like to be locked in a room with vegan wrestler Ryback Reeves?

@The Legend Himself There is nothing in meat you can't get in plants, so you can pack that stereotype in. Don't suppose you'd like to be locked in a room with vegan wrestler Ryback Reeves?

@The Legend Himself well I know you don't like homosexuals but we are awarding them more rights such as the right to get married in recent years.

The world will continue to get better and we will award animals the right to not be raped tortured and slaughtered for a meal when we have many more alternatives.

It is too much to ask for you to consider animals since you dislike homosexual humans but I hope one day you see through your indoctrination.

The world doesn't need to be as unfair as it currently is and I feel sorry for you that you think the world should remain the same

@The Legend Himself well I know you don't like homosexuals but we are awarding them more rights such as the right to get married in recent years.

The world will continue to get better and we will award animals the right to not be raped tortured and slaughtered for a meal when we have many more alternatives.

It is too much to ask for you to consider animals since you dislike homosexual humans but I hope one day you see through your indoctrination.

The world doesn't need to be as unfair as it currently is and I feel sorry for you that you think the world should remain the same

@FractalDust I had already seen their documentary . I know very well about what is going on inside of animal farms. The farms may try to hide what they do but almost everyone knows about what happens in them. I have a very good stomach, especially after eating meat ;). One thing you should know is the world isn’t nice. People are people and there is little chance in changing how farm animals are treated. And I told you before, accept it and go past it, or keep crying for nothing at all. Just be glad it isn’t happening to you.

@FractalDust I had already seen their documentary . I know very well about what is going on inside of animal farms. The farms may try to hide what they do but almost everyone knows about what happens in them. I have a very good stomach, especially after eating meat ;). One thing you should know is the world isn’t nice. People are people and there is little chance in changing how farm animals are treated. And I told you before, accept it and go past it, or keep crying for nothing at all. Just be glad it isn’t happening to you.

@The Legend Himself well you so appear to have a problem with homosexuals so I guess it is too much for you to take consideration for the billions of animals we breed into existence just to be slaughtered 1/4 of the way through their life.

You are choosing to be a useful asset to the meat industry by saying that it should happen even when it doesn't need to.

The only time I think it is justifiable to kill another sentient being is self defense but you appear to be ok with signing off on the animal holocaust and you'd probably be happy with a homosexual holocaust judging by your previous comments, shameful tbh

@The Legend Himself if it is something you are ok with and you want to continue, you owe it to yourself to watch footage of what happens, 'dominion' on YouTube shows the footage that the farms don't want you to see

If it is good enough for your stomach and for you to say it should continue without any signs of stopping, you should be ok with watching that footage.

Of course we need to eat food, it doesn't mean we have to torture and slaughter sentient beings for food.

It is an animal holocaust and it doesn't need to continue

@The Legend Himself if it is something you are ok with and you want to continue, you owe it to yourself to watch footage of what happens, 'dominion' on YouTube shows the footage that the farms don't want you to see

If it is good enough for your stomach and for you to say it should continue without any signs of stopping, you should be ok with watching that footage.

Of course we need to eat food, it doesn't mean we have to torture and slaughter sentient beings for food.

It is an animal holocaust and it doesn't need to continue

@FractalDust I’m pretty sure everyone is told or have known about what happens to animals to make food. People aren’t as stupid as you might think. And if you think that, we’ll that’s too bad for you. People love meat. It’s tasty and it’s good for us. Things aren’t going to change any time soon. You can suck it up and live with it or you can keep crying about it. The choice is yours. My eyes are already open, it’s you who can’t see reality. Animals are food. Food is food. We need food. Period.

@FractalDust I’m pretty sure everyone is told or have known about what happens to animals to make food. People aren’t as stupid as you might think. And if you think that, we’ll that’s too bad for you. People love meat. It’s tasty and it’s good for us. Things aren’t going to change any time soon. You can suck it up and live with it or you can keep crying about it. The choice is yours. My eyes are already open, it’s you who can’t see reality. Animals are food. Food is food. We need food. Period.

@The Legend Himself just because we can enslave and kill these animals that are weaker than us when it is not necessary for our survival, does that mean that we should?

I think we should make the world a better place for all sentient life. The farming industry keeps what they are doing behind closed doors, people don't know the pain and suffering we inflict for a sandwich or a burger and that is by design.

I am not telling you to do anything, I am just trying to open your eyes that this isn't how the world has to be and we can and will be better.

@The Legend Himself just because we can enslave and kill these animals that are weaker than us when it is not necessary for our survival, does that mean that we should?

I think we should make the world a better place for all sentient life. The farming industry keeps what they are doing behind closed doors, people don't know the pain and suffering we inflict for a sandwich or a burger and that is by design.

I am not telling you to do anything, I am just trying to open your eyes that this isn't how the world has to be and we can and will be better.

@FractalDust If animals did it to us, it’s their way to survive. It’s life, and it isn’t always fair. We are just lucky to be on the top of the food chain. But the thing is, we eat both plants and animals. We can eat animals if we want and you can’t change a thing about it. What we do to them might be unnecessary in your eyes but the human population is growing rapidly. Humans need food to live if you are unaware. And I’m not here to change your mind, just to make a point. :)

@FractalDust If animals did it to us, it’s their way to survive. It’s life, and it isn’t always fair. We are just lucky to be on the top of the food chain. But the thing is, we eat both plants and animals. We can eat animals if we want and you can’t change a thing about it. What we do to them might be unnecessary in your eyes but the human population is growing rapidly. Humans need food to live if you are unaware. And I’m not here to change your mind, just to make a point. :)

@The Legend Himself I agree plants are alive, what I am concerned about is sentience.

We know that animals have brains and nervous systems so they must have an experience similar to ours. I am sure you would not accept if we did to humans what we do to animals, what makes it ok to do to animals?

What we do to animals is unnecessary and cruel but you are welcome to try and change my mind

@The Legend Himself I agree plants are alive, what I am concerned about is sentience.

We know that animals have brains and nervous systems so they must have an experience similar to ours. I am sure you would not accept if we did to humans what we do to animals, what makes it ok to do to animals?

What we do to animals is unnecessary and cruel but you are welcome to try and change my mind

@FractalDust no matter what we eat, it was alive at some point. It doesn’t matter if it had feelings or not. Something could eat one of us but it doesn’t care. As long as it’s had it’s meal to survive another day. Eat plants if you want but you can’t tell other people to not eat what they enjoy.

@FractalDust no matter what we eat, it was alive at some point. It doesn’t matter if it had feelings or not. Something could eat one of us but it doesn’t care. As long as it’s had it’s meal to survive another day. Eat plants if you want but you can’t tell other people to not eat what they enjoy.

@The Legend Himself do you have a problem with homosexuals? They deserve the same rights as everyone else in my view.

There are vegan bodybuilders, eating meat is not necessary for us to survive or to thrive.

If you really think that plants feel pain, you should still go vegan. We grow crops to feed animals to make meat. More plants die if we eat meat than if we stopped eating meat.

@The Legend Himself do you have a problem with homosexuals? They deserve the same rights as everyone else in my view.

There are vegan bodybuilders, eating meat is not necessary for us to survive or to thrive.

If you really think that plants feel pain, you should still go vegan. We grow crops to feed animals to make meat. More plants die if we eat meat than if we stopped eating meat.

@FractalDust PLANTS DONT DESERVE YO BE TOTURED! PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS! WE NEED TO EAT BUGS INSETEAD! INSECTS DONT FEEL ANYTHING!

@FractalDust PLANTS DONT DESERVE YO BE TOTURED! PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS! WE NEED TO EAT BUGS INSETEAD! INSECTS DONT FEEL ANYTHING!

@Nazeem I finally went to the cloud district

@Nazeem I finally went to the cloud district

The vegan set: dyed hair, fragile and skinny (because no meat), most likely homosexual, feminine actions and voice.

The vegan set: dyed hair, fragile and skinny (because no meat), most likely homosexual, feminine actions and voice.

@Giovannii Animals are given B12 supplements themselves. Ruminants (cattle) can make B12, but they need cobalt rich soil, much of which has been depleted and is no longer diable, and the majority of cattle are not grass fed, they are fed on grain and soy, which is also destroying the Amazon rainforest - of all of the soy planted in the Amazon, around 80% is solely to feed livestock.

So, to combat that, farmers give B12 supplements either through their feed (soy, grain) or through injections.

You either take supplements, eat food that is supplemented with b12, or you eat animals there were supplemented with b12.

Plants used to give us B12 too - it comes from the soil - but modern farming practices have sterilized plant farming so it is no longer viable. I get B12 from supplements sometimes, but my oat milk has B12 in it, if I have the occasional meat analogue (beyond burgers etc) they have B12 added, nutritional yeast is a seasoning I put on everything and that's rich with B12.

@BigSocks not an argument, do you not think we should make informed purchases?  purchasing meat is a vote for the continued enslavement of animals when they have done us no wrong and they are not necessary to be eaten for our survival

@BigSocks not an argument, do you not think we should make informed purchases?  purchasing meat is a vote for the continued enslavement of animals when they have done us no wrong and they are not necessary to be eaten for our survival

@Rifle Shooter Channel If I were paying Harvey Weinstein to make movies knowing that he would abuse women, then yes I would be in support of abusing women, that is not what I do.

I think we should make informed decisions and vote with our money, do you disagree?

@Rifle Shooter Channel If I were paying Harvey Weinstein to make movies knowing that he would abuse women, then yes I would be in support of abusing women, that is not what I do.

I think we should make informed decisions and vote with our money, do you disagree?

@Rifle Shooter Channel maybe you didn't read what I said if that is your conclusion

@Rifle Shooter Channel maybe you didn't read what I said if that is your conclusion

@FractalDust So you support what Harvey Weinstein did and you hate women.

Got it.

It's much easier for you to just admit you support abuse of young women in Hollywood than to try and justify it with word salad.

@FractalDust So you support what Harvey Weinstein did and you hate women.

Got it.

It's much easier for you to just admit you support abuse of young women in Hollywood than to try and justify it with word salad.

@Rifle Shooter Channel if it was necessarily true that all movies involved abuse on the same level of animal agriculture I could see it as supporting abuse if you went to see those movies.

That of course is not the case. When it comes to animal products, there is no way to get them without abuse unless you get your meat from roadkill which I would have no problem with.

@Rifle Shooter Channel if it was necessarily true that all movies involved abuse on the same level of animal agriculture I could see it as supporting abuse if you went to see those movies.

That of course is not the case. When it comes to animal products, there is no way to get them without abuse unless you get your meat from roadkill which I would have no problem with.

@FractalDust Based on that logic, if you pay to see movies you support all the abuse that takes place in Hollywood.

@FractalDust Based on that logic, if you pay to see movies you support all the abuse that takes place in Hollywood.

@Patrick Thompson so you admit that the torture rape and slaughter of animals is ok just because you like the taste. You want infinite suffering until the end of time just because you like the taste.

You think that your taste preferences are more important than the lives of animals, the resources we waste to produce meat and the mental health of the workers who slaughter animals as their jobs.

Your consent has been manufactured by the meat industry, you are not a rick, you are a Jerry. You follow along blindly and put a 5 minute taste over facts and logic.

@Patrick Thompson so you admit that the torture rape and slaughter of animals is ok just because you like the taste. You want infinite suffering until the end of time just because you like the taste.

You think that your taste preferences are more important than the lives of animals, the resources we waste to produce meat and the mental health of the workers who slaughter animals as their jobs.

Your consent has been manufactured by the meat industry, you are not a rick, you are a Jerry. You follow along blindly and put a 5 minute taste over facts and logic.

@FractalDust nah son I do advertising for steakhouses. You ever had a 16 oz steak with garlic butter melting over it? Absolutely sublime and exquisite. You’re exactly what a vegan Whole Foods poster boy looks and sounds like, entitled and narcissistic. Only thing missing is the pink hair 😂😂

@FractalDust nah son I do advertising for steakhouses. You ever had a 16 oz steak with garlic butter melting over it? Absolutely sublime and exquisite. You’re exactly what a vegan Whole Foods poster boy looks and sounds like, entitled and narcissistic. Only thing missing is the pink hair 😂😂

@Patrick Thompson you do excellent advertising for McDonald's, they convinced you good.

@Patrick Thompson you do excellent advertising for McDonald's, they convinced you good.

@FractalDust  nope I eat meat cause I FUCKING LOVE IT. I’m always gonna eat meat, my children will eat meat, and so will their children. The world will continue to eat meat and it will always be that way ☺ and how exactly did you expose me? Lol you didn’t expose shit kiddo. Go eat a death cap 😂

@FractalDust  nope I eat meat cause I FUCKING LOVE IT. I’m always gonna eat meat, my children will eat meat, and so will their children. The world will continue to eat meat and it will always be that way ☺ and how exactly did you expose me? Lol you didn’t expose shit kiddo. Go eat a death cap 😂

@Patrick Thompson so you have no reason to eat meat other than you were raised doing it and after I exposed you, you just say the same thing five other people in this exact comment thread have said.

Your originality knows no bounds and with a name like Rick Sanchez it shows you are a follower and cannot think for yourself.

@Patrick Thompson so you have no reason to eat meat other than you were raised doing it and after I exposed you, you just say the same thing five other people in this exact comment thread have said.

Your originality knows no bounds and with a name like Rick Sanchez it shows you are a follower and cannot think for yourself.

@FractalDust sorry just got back from a steakhouse and ate a big ass steak. What is it you were sayin bumpkins?

@FractalDust sorry just got back from a steakhouse and ate a big ass steak. What is it you were sayin bumpkins?

@Patrick Thompson so you just think meat is necessary for human survival and you don't actually know. Plant based diets contain all essential amino acids and vitamins, no animal slaughter or torture necessary.

Your entire viewpoint is based on anecdotal evidence and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Just face it, you pay for and support unnecessary suffering. You blindly accept and support the mistreatment of non human sentient beings just based on some beliefs that you have.

@Patrick Thompson so you just think meat is necessary for human survival and you don't actually know. Plant based diets contain all essential amino acids and vitamins, no animal slaughter or torture necessary.

Your entire viewpoint is based on anecdotal evidence and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Just face it, you pay for and support unnecessary suffering. You blindly accept and support the mistreatment of non human sentient beings just based on some beliefs that you have.

@FractalDust eating meat is surely necessary for survival 🙄 just because you don’t like eating meat doesn’t mean people like you get to tell others what to eat in their diets. Like I said, get off your high horse. Humans will continue to eat meat until the end of time so don’t like it? Too bad son. Notice how its the vegans who always look so malnourished and sick, I wonder why lol

@FractalDust eating meat is surely necessary for survival 🙄 just because you don’t like eating meat doesn’t mean people like you get to tell others what to eat in their diets. Like I said, get off your high horse. Humans will continue to eat meat until the end of time so don’t like it? Too bad son. Notice how its the vegans who always look so malnourished and sick, I wonder why lol

@Patrick Thompson eating meat is not necessary for our survival, maybe it was in our past and that can be justifiable.

What you are saying is we needed meat at some point, so now we SHOULD torture rape and slaughter trillions of animals until the end of time even when it is not necessary.

I don't see how you make that huge leap of, we can do something and have done it in the past, so now it should continue unchallenged. Sounds like you would be in the crowd who drinks the cool aid. You just follow along with what is and you are blind to what could be.

@Patrick Thompson eating meat is not necessary for our survival, maybe it was in our past and that can be justifiable.

What you are saying is we needed meat at some point, so now we SHOULD torture rape and slaughter trillions of animals until the end of time even when it is not necessary.

I don't see how you make that huge leap of, we can do something and have done it in the past, so now it should continue unchallenged. Sounds like you would be in the crowd who drinks the cool aid. You just follow along with what is and you are blind to what could be.

@FractalDust dude believe it or not, this may come as a shock to you but I wasn’t born last night. You honestly believe I don’t know where meat comes from? Or the process of making meat? 😂 get off your high horse. Humans are omnivores you walking void, not herbivores. If early humans only ate plants and not meat then we most likely would have gone extinct as a species. It’s fact and science. Now go fetch me a bacon cheeseburger kid.

@FractalDust dude believe it or not, this may come as a shock to you but I wasn’t born last night. You honestly believe I don’t know where meat comes from? Or the process of making meat? 😂 get off your high horse. Humans are omnivores you walking void, not herbivores. If early humans only ate plants and not meat then we most likely would have gone extinct as a species. It’s fact and science. Now go fetch me a bacon cheeseburger kid.

@Patrick Thompson yeah so you pay for animal abuse, you support animal abuse. Of course I know people pay for things, I think it is you who does not know what happens to make your sandwich or burger.

You pay for calves to be separated from mothers, you pay for them to have their mill sucked.dry, you pay for baby chicks to be culled, you pay for animals to live their lives in cages and you pay for them to be slaughtered 1/4 of the way through their life because you like to eat their dead bodies when it is not necessary for our survival.

You support animal abuse.

@Patrick Thompson yeah so you pay for animal abuse, you support animal abuse. Of course I know people pay for things, I think it is you who does not know what happens to make your sandwich or burger.

You pay for calves to be separated from mothers, you pay for them to have their mill sucked.dry, you pay for baby chicks to be culled, you pay for animals to live their lives in cages and you pay for them to be slaughtered 1/4 of the way through their life because you like to eat their dead bodies when it is not necessary for our survival.

You support animal abuse.

@FractalDust i mean of course I pay for it, nothings free in this world son you’re old enough to know that.

@FractalDust i mean of course I pay for it, nothings free in this world son you’re old enough to know that.

@Patrick Thompson yeah so you pay for it, you support it

@Patrick Thompson yeah so you pay for it, you support it

@FractalDust well we don’t partake in animal cruelty either… we just eat the delicious result of said animal cruelty.

@FractalDust well we don’t partake in animal cruelty either… we just eat the delicious result of said animal cruelty.

@Dabunny Rabbit I’m pretty sure it says somewhere in the Bible that God made animals for us to eat them and use them for our own benefit or something like that

@Dabunny Rabbit I’m pretty sure it says somewhere in the Bible that God made animals for us to eat them and use them for our own benefit or something like that

@FalseAlarm911 Keep thinking being a bully is fun. You gone run into the wrong person who got put you and your friends under:

@FalseAlarm911 Keep thinking being a bully is fun. You gone run into the wrong person who got put you and your friends under:

@FalseAlarm911
"just to get them to freak out"
one day you are gonna antagonize the wrong person and get knocked on your ass.

@FalseAlarm911
"just to get them to freak out"
one day you are gonna antagonize the wrong person and get knocked on your ass.

@TigerDude07
"they are ment to be eaten"
says who???

@TigerDude07
"they are ment to be eaten"
says who???

@FractalDust I mean in the video he said it was Beyond Meat. That’s just Roundup slathered soy garbage.

But to answer your question, no, what you’re describing is not animal abuse. It’s a benefit of being at the top of the food chain. You don’t get made at lions do you?

@FractalDust I mean in the video he said it was Beyond Meat. That’s just Roundup slathered soy garbage.

But to answer your question, no, what you’re describing is not animal abuse. It’s a benefit of being at the top of the food chain. You don’t get made at lions do you?

@Rifle Shooter Channel well let's say what is done to produce the meat in this video, I am sure you know how dairy and meat animals are treated.

Are you in full support of artificial insemination, castration of males to keep testosterone out of their meat, the culling of male chicks in the egg industry and of course the fact that they are all slaughtered 1/4 of the way through their life so that people can satisfy their taste preferences.

@Rifle Shooter Channel well let's say what is done to produce the meat in this video, I am sure you know how dairy and meat animals are treated.

Are you in full support of artificial insemination, castration of males to keep testosterone out of their meat, the culling of male chicks in the egg industry and of course the fact that they are all slaughtered 1/4 of the way through their life so that people can satisfy their taste preferences.

@FractalDust Define animal abuse.

Some people think putting a sweater on a dog is “animal abuse” so there’s a pretty broad scope of what someone could mean.

@FractalDust Define animal abuse.

Some people think putting a sweater on a dog is “animal abuse” so there’s a pretty broad scope of what someone could mean.

@Rifle Shooter Channel do you support animal abuse?

@Rifle Shooter Channel do you support animal abuse?

@FractalDust < found that pink hair mf right here

@FractalDust < found that pink hair mf right here

@mead cows are sentient, what do you think they are robots or something?! Lmfao

@mead cows are sentient, what do you think they are robots or something?! Lmfao

@FractalDust you're acting like cows are sentient

@FractalDust you're acting like cows are sentient

@Hayden Wolf so you concede the debate as you do not have any responses. I hope you ponder on what we have spoken about, have a good day and don't be afraid to Google what I have said to see the truth.

Your arguement is; veganism = bad

@Hayden Wolf so you concede the debate as you do not have any responses. I hope you ponder on what we have spoken about, have a good day and don't be afraid to Google what I have said to see the truth.

Your arguement is; veganism = bad

Lord, I am done arguing with Idiot liberals, not worth my time. Have a good day, may God bless you and I hope you come around to the fact that everyone becoming vegan would be a bad thing to spciety

Lord, I am done arguing with Idiot liberals, not worth my time. Have a good day, may God bless you and I hope you come around to the fact that everyone becoming vegan would be a bad thing to spciety

@Hayden Wolf please explain how what I am saying is unscientific, I'll wait.

Most meat is produced in factory farms, Google it if you do not believe me, but there is nothing unscientific about that truthful claim.

Animal products are not that great for us either, heart disease is a leading cause of death for humans and it has strong links to animal product consumption. The vegan diet is safe for all stages of life, proven by scientific studies ,so again, no idea why you think I am being unscientific.

So you dismiss the mental health of the people who produce your food yet you accept that animals do not deserve to be a sandwich, interesting. I think that there should not be jobs that involve killing innocent sentient beings and I also think that no sentient being deserves to die just to satisfy the taste preferences of another.

Why should humanity hold itself to the standard of a snake eating a mouse? Are we not better than that? We do not need to model ourselves off of the behaviour of wild animals.

What we are doing to animals is an unprovoked first strike for something we do not need to survive. It is not something I can ever get behind.

Please explain how our farming of animals is helping the ecosystem, because it is does the exact opposite from all the scientific papers I have read.

You are just as misinformed as I was when I first started looking into things.

@FractalDust you are not speaking from a scientific standpoint, first of all most meat is not produced in packing plants, and saying that the workers have mental health issues does not mean that meat is not healthy for you because it really is. They may not deserve to be a sandwich but, neither does the rat a snake devours on a daily basis. Humans were created or evolved at the apex of the food chain. If we do not do our job and eat the animals below us, than it has been proven we will destroy our ecosystem

@FractalDust you are not speaking from a scientific standpoint, first of all most meat is not produced in packing plants, and saying that the workers have mental health issues does not mean that meat is not healthy for you because it really is. They may not deserve to be a sandwich but, neither does the rat a snake devours on a daily basis. Humans were created or evolved at the apex of the food chain. If we do not do our job and eat the animals below us, than it has been proven we will destroy our ecosystem

@Hayden Wolf you are horribly misinformed.

Not only is it bad for the environment to make meat, it is also the needless killing of sentient beings who do not deserve to be killed for a sandwich.

Animals eat plants to produce meat, it is wasteful to produce meat instead of just eating plants. Look up trophic levels if you don't already know about them.

Slaughterhouse workers also have horrible mental health issues so it is not good for the workers to continue doing this. The amount of land water and food we use to produce meat is staggering, meat farms cannot even survive without government subsidies.

@FractalDust no it's actually good for the ecosystem it's been proven, if we let them roam wild then we would all insects would go instinct. Maybe if you did your research then you wouldn't be so frail both emotionally and physically

@FractalDust no it's actually good for the ecosystem it's been proven, if we let them roam wild then we would all insects would go instinct. Maybe if you did your research then you wouldn't be so frail both emotionally and physically

@Hayden Wolf you think we need to kill animals forever to help society and the ecosystem?

You are highly misinformed

@Hayden Wolf you think we need to kill animals forever to help society and the ecosystem?

You are highly misinformed

@FractalDust kinda necessary if we want to maintain a healthy society and healthy ecosystems

@FractalDust kinda necessary if we want to maintain a healthy society and healthy ecosystems

@FractalDust my favorite food is a cheese burger lmao

@FractalDust my favorite food is a cheese burger lmao

@Kysoo if plants were sentient that would be horrible but I have seen no evidence of plants being sentient.

If plants are sentient and we just lack the ability to detect it, it would still be better to stop eating meat as all the meat you eat is produced from animals eating plants. hence more death just for taste preferences which is something I cannot support

@Kysoo if plants were sentient that would be horrible but I have seen no evidence of plants being sentient.

If plants are sentient and we just lack the ability to detect it, it would still be better to stop eating meat as all the meat you eat is produced from animals eating plants. hence more death just for taste preferences which is something I cannot support

@Kysoo  yeah many things are alive, I am concerned with sentient beings being killed for taste pleasure, which is exactly what people are supporting when they blindly support the meat industry.

We all know the bad guys are the ones who take part in the unprovoked first strike against beings weaker than them just to satisfy their own wants, that is what we still do to animals and in my view, it should end.

@Kysoo  yeah many things are alive, I am concerned with sentient beings being killed for taste pleasure, which is exactly what people are supporting when they blindly support the meat industry.

We all know the bad guys are the ones who take part in the unprovoked first strike against beings weaker than them just to satisfy their own wants, that is what we still do to animals and in my view, it should end.

@Kysoo Save the plants, they are more precious than animals, they make oxygen for us!<br>Becoming a carnivore is so good.

@Kysoo Save the plants, they are more precious than animals, they make oxygen for us!
Becoming a carnivore is so good.

@FractalDust eating plants only will make you weaker and sadder. Plants are alive too with your logic we shouldn’t be eating them too. We’re basically eating them alive sometimes.

@FractalDust eating plants only will make you weaker and sadder. Plants are alive too with your logic we shouldn’t be eating them too. We’re basically eating them alive sometimes.

@FractalDust plants are alive and when we cut grass it’s actually just the grass screaming lol.

@FractalDust plants are alive and when we cut grass it’s actually just the grass screaming lol.

Protein? Strength? Muscle? I have to eat meat to workout you know, not everyone is a skeleton.

Protein? Strength? Muscle? I have to eat meat to workout you know, not everyone is a skeleton.

@Bubba Sawyer so you think it is ok to do horrible things to other sentient beings for taste when we have so many other things to eat?

You are brainwashed into thinking it should continue unquestioned

@Bubba Sawyer so you think it is ok to do horrible things to other sentient beings for taste when we have so many other things to eat?

You are brainwashed into thinking it should continue unquestioned

@FractalDust why the hell wouldn't we eat it? it tastes good, that's all we care about

@FractalDust why the hell wouldn't we eat it? it tastes good, that's all we care about

@Woofnberg yeah exactly you are upset at my opinion and you are lashing out lmfao.

You don't have a single good reason to eat meat, you just follow along eating it without even thinking

@Woofnberg yeah exactly you are upset at my opinion and you are lashing out lmfao.

You don't have a single good reason to eat meat, you just follow along eating it without even thinking

@FractalDust The only person upset here is you, keep your shit to yourself

@FractalDust The only person upset here is you, keep your shit to yourself

@FractalDust actual animal abuse, yes, i'm against that. slaughterhouses and meat packing plants? that's normal for me, i'm thinking i wanna be a butcher later on in life.

@FractalDust actual animal abuse, yes, i'm against that. slaughterhouses and meat packing plants? that's normal for me, i'm thinking i wanna be a butcher later on in life.

@FractalDust i support the humane slaughter of animals for food. which is not animal abuse. it's the cycle of life.

@FractalDust i support the humane slaughter of animals for food. which is not animal abuse. it's the cycle of life.

@FractalDust so pal, let me ask you a question.<br>Do you think hunting for Burmese pythons in the Everglades is “animal abuse”?

@FractalDust so pal, let me ask you a question.
Do you think hunting for Burmese pythons in the Everglades is “animal abuse”?

@FractalDust nah u mad that we like meat
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@FractalDust nah u mad that we like meat
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@mike_404 you are mad that I think animal abuse is not ok, upset is an understatement

@mike_404 you are mad that I think animal abuse is not ok, upset is an understatement

@FractalDust the only person upset here is you ngl. We like meat. Get over it snowflake 🙂

@FractalDust the only person upset here is you ngl. We like meat. Get over it snowflake 🙂

@FractalDust your definition of “upset” is a little skewed there, bud

@FractalDust your definition of “upset” is a little skewed there, bud

@mike_404 then why are you upset with me pointing out his comedy is supporting needless death and degrades those who thinks animals deserve to not be killed for a sandwich?

@mike_404 then why are you upset with me pointing out his comedy is supporting needless death and degrades those who thinks animals deserve to not be killed for a sandwich?

@FractalDust upset? This is comedy good brother! Yum 🥩🥓🍔🍗🍕

@FractalDust upset? This is comedy good brother! Yum 🥩🥓🍔🍗🍕

@mike_404 maybe give animals a break and let them live, you can also just not read my comments if they upset you this much

@mike_404 maybe give animals a break and let them live, you can also just not read my comments if they upset you this much

@Idotic Moron no, supplement industry was created by omnivores and relies on omnivores considering only 1% of the world's population is vegan. The only supplement you need as a vegan is b12 and that's not due to lack of animal products, but rather chlorination of our water supplies and death of cyanobacteria that produce b12. In fact the animals that you eat are given methylcobalamin in ther feed. Ironically, B12 deficiency is common among omnivores who consume meat also.

Despite, what even is your point? A plant based diet already entails the use of b12 and/or optionally vitamin D if you aren't in the sun often. What's wrong with that? You can be healthy and athletic as a vegan under current circumstances, that os the bottom line and yet you deliberately choose to cause tremendous suffering for a trivial taste pleasure.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Isn’t possible to solely rely on a strictly plant based diet, supplements exist for exactly that reason.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Isn’t possible to solely rely on a strictly plant based diet, supplements exist for exactly that reason.

@Dasherr tell me how exactly these private farms do not abuse and kill the animals they 'take care of'

They still control the animals lives and they are using them as a means to an end, factory farming is of course worse in treatment but unnecessary death is still unnecessary death

@Dasherr tell me how exactly these private farms do not abuse and kill the animals they 'take care of'

They still control the animals lives and they are using them as a means to an end, factory farming is of course worse in treatment but unnecessary death is still unnecessary death

@FractalDust hnngh, what about private farms that actually take care of animals. Not every meat resource cultivator inseminates cows, takes away their young ones and tortures them 🤔

@FractalDust hnngh, what about private farms that actually take care of animals. Not every meat resource cultivator inseminates cows, takes away their young ones and tortures them 🤔

@FalseAlarm911 ok chill dude thats a bit too far

@FalseAlarm911 ok chill dude thats a bit too far

@lol so you support animal abuse and might making things right to do. That is the same position used to justify victimising people in the past and you are fully on board for victimising the weak only to benefit yourself

@lol so you support animal abuse and might making things right to do. That is the same position used to justify victimising people in the past and you are fully on board for victimising the weak only to benefit yourself

@lol so you think we should never stop animal abuse? Well at least you are honest and don't try to sugar cost your support for unnecessary abuse and death like some other people, you are proud of the needles damage you do

@lol so you think we should never stop animal abuse? Well at least you are honest and don't try to sugar cost your support for unnecessary abuse and death like some other people, you are proud of the needles damage you do

@FractalDust go get a life softie the world isn't perfect and animals are gonna die by us for centuries

@FractalDust go get a life softie the world isn't perfect and animals are gonna die by us for centuries

@FractalDust I'm sorry but we're at the top of the food chain so whether you like it or not humans are gonna continue eating meat

@FractalDust I'm sorry but we're at the top of the food chain so whether you like it or not humans are gonna continue eating meat

@FractalDust good lol, i love eating cows, and ill never stop.

@FractalDust good lol, i love eating cows, and ill never stop.

@Woofnberg as long as you known that burger is the product of animal abuse and you are ok with it continuing, then by all means keep buying burger king and supporting animal abuse

@Woofnberg as long as you known that burger is the product of animal abuse and you are ok with it continuing, then by all means keep buying burger king and supporting animal abuse

@FractalDust burger king just hits different 😂

@FractalDust burger king just hits different 😂

@FractalDust DO YOU have a remark for every fucking thing

@FractalDust DO YOU have a remark for every fucking thing

@gist so you think it is good to kill and torture animals because God says so?

I would personally need a better reason to do something other than god told me to, many people commit all sorts of atrocities just because God told them to do something.

We should have good reasons to do things when it involves killing and torturing animals for a sandwich I fail to see a good reason.

@gist so you think it is good to kill and torture animals because God says so?

I would personally need a better reason to do something other than god told me to, many people commit all sorts of atrocities just because God told them to do something.

We should have good reasons to do things when it involves killing and torturing animals for a sandwich I fail to see a good reason.

@FractalDust Bro, If god says you can eat animals, then you can eat animals, stop taking a piss about it, and slitting the animals throat is the most painless death, and sacrificing a sheep is litterally a tradition in my religion of Islam. Unless animals become intelligent, like domesticated animals, or we don't have to worry about getting killed by a black widow, we really shouldn't stop eating meat, and anyways you need to breed animals to control the ecosystem, Did you pay attention in Living Environment or what? But what is the point you have a fucking comment for everything, and you just take a 360 degree turn and repeat yourself

@gist we breed those animals into existence, we could easily just not breed as many animals, reduce the methane production and of course end the animal abuse

@gist we breed those animals into existence, we could easily just not breed as many animals, reduce the methane production and of course end the animal abuse

@FractalDust If There are two many animals, there is too much methane, if there are too many animals, there is too much crops going to waste since they eat plants, this is why all of us not eating animals it the worst thing you can do

@FractalDust If There are two many animals, there is too much methane, if there are too many animals, there is too much crops going to waste since they eat plants, this is why all of us not eating animals it the worst thing you can do

@Bubba Sawyer if by vegan you mean that I don't support animal abuse, then sure

do you support animal abuse?

@Bubba Sawyer if by vegan you mean that I don't support animal abuse, then sure

do you support animal abuse?

@mr sexy you don't care about animal abuse?

@mr sexy you don't care about animal abuse?

@Aaron Caldwell ok so you think that we should have no limit on the death we participate in?

Such a bullshit answer, you are trying to make an appeal to hypocrisy so that nothing changes.

Your argument is literally to kill more beings and never think about it while my argument from the start is that it is impossible to eliminate all death and suffering, we should just not be active intentional participants in the death and torture of living beings when it is not necessary.

@Aaron Caldwell ok so you think that we should have no limit on the death we participate in?

Such a bullshit answer, you are trying to make an appeal to hypocrisy so that nothing changes.

Your argument is literally to kill more beings and never think about it while my argument from the start is that it is impossible to eliminate all death and suffering, we should just not be active intentional participants in the death and torture of living beings when it is not necessary.

@FractalDust Animals are killed everyday to grow the crops you vegans eat regardless. All the foxes, wolves, rabbits raccoons and wild hogs that be trying to touch your precious food are shot daily by the farmers that grow them so now what even poisoning them with poison that’s harmless to us but kills them if they take a bite you’re not a hero those animals die a more meaningless death trying to steal corn being left to rot cuz people don’t eat those types of animals.

@FractalDust Animals are killed everyday to grow the crops you vegans eat regardless. All the foxes, wolves, rabbits raccoons and wild hogs that be trying to touch your precious food are shot daily by the farmers that grow them so now what even poisoning them with poison that’s harmless to us but kills them if they take a bite you’re not a hero those animals die a more meaningless death trying to steal corn being left to rot cuz people don’t eat those types of animals.

@FractalDust see, you can't refute someone's point then immediately prove them right

@FractalDust see, you can't refute someone's point then immediately prove them right

Some smooth brains don't understand survival of the fittest

Some smooth brains don't understand survival of the fittest

@The talisman still made by killing a sentient being who doesn't want to be killed when it is not necessary 🤷♂

@The talisman still made by killing a sentient being who doesn't want to be killed when it is not necessary 🤷♂

@FractalDust I eat at whole food , my meat is fine 💪🏻

@FractalDust I eat at whole food , my meat is fine 💪🏻

@The talisman take a look at what is in your meat and what the companies do to produce it.

You think it is dumb but meat production is fucked up and is just something we are told is supposed to happen when it doesn't have to.

@The talisman take a look at what is in your meat and what the companies do to produce it.

You think it is dumb but meat production is fucked up and is just something we are told is supposed to happen when it doesn't have to.

yep he eat meat all day, but hate on others when they do it

yep he eat meat all day, but hate on others when they do it

@FractalDust “doing what the meat companies want without question” , that’s the dumbest shit I ever heard , get a life 😂😂😂😂😂

@FractalDust “doing what the meat companies want without question” , that’s the dumbest shit I ever heard , get a life 😂😂😂😂😂

@The talisman if you want to just keep doing what the meat companies want without questioning if it is right or wrong then you can do that if you want, at least just be honest with yourself and admit you want to follow the status quo and not think for yourself or the future of our planet and species

@The talisman if you want to just keep doing what the meat companies want without questioning if it is right or wrong then you can do that if you want, at least just be honest with yourself and admit you want to follow the status quo and not think for yourself or the future of our planet and species

@FractalDust going hunting next week. Give me your email; I’ll send you a picture with your username written on paper in front of my kill.  I’m going for slightly younger this year; they tend to make better tenderloins.

I had only planned on shooting 1 but because of you I think I’m going to buy another tag.

@FractalDust going hunting next week. Give me your email; I’ll send you a picture with your username written on paper in front of my kill.  I’m going for slightly younger this year; they tend to make better tenderloins.

I had only planned on shooting 1 but because of you I think I’m going to buy another tag.

fr then he said he was gonna smash the camera. i bet jidion would rock his shit😂

fr then he said he was gonna smash the camera. i bet jidion would rock his shit😂

@Bubba lmfao remain ignorant if you want

@Bubba lmfao remain ignorant if you want

@FractalDust you’re acting like this is news , we know we can live off plants , we know the animals suffer , we just don’t give a fuck , it is tasty and we love it and will happily eat it as my last meal , good old steak will be my dinner till the day I die

@FractalDust you’re acting like this is news , we know we can live off plants , we know the animals suffer , we just don’t give a fuck , it is tasty and we love it and will happily eat it as my last meal , good old steak will be my dinner till the day I die

@The talisman  cows cannot communicate with humans so we should respect their right to live, there is no consent in killing and eating sentient lifeforms who want to live.

Eating meat is not necessary for humans to survive, plant based diets are safe for all stages of human life just look it up if you don't believe me.

@The talisman  cows cannot communicate with humans so we should respect their right to live, there is no consent in killing and eating sentient lifeforms who want to live.

Eating meat is not necessary for humans to survive, plant based diets are safe for all stages of human life just look it up if you don't believe me.

@FractalDust I did get consent , I said mooo twice if you consent to me eating you and the cow mooed twice sooooo , also could you imagine how over populated with animals the world would be if we didn’t kill them all the time , it’s Necessary

@FractalDust I did get consent , I said mooo twice if you consent to me eating you and the cow mooed twice sooooo , also could you imagine how over populated with animals the world would be if we didn’t kill them all the time , it’s Necessary

@The talisman well did you get consent from the animal?

@The talisman well did you get consent from the animal?

@FractalDust  it’s 2021 if gays can shove meat down their throats without being judged then so can I , stop shoving your vegan carrot down everyone’s throat and get some meat in your mouth 😂

@FractalDust  it’s 2021 if gays can shove meat down their throats without being judged then so can I , stop shoving your vegan carrot down everyone’s throat and get some meat in your mouth 😂

@THATKIDIBRAH I have eaten all of that stuff before, when I learned what was involved I questioned it and it is not necessary for us to inflict so much harm for a sandwich

@THATKIDIBRAH I have eaten all of that stuff before, when I learned what was involved I questioned it and it is not necessary for us to inflict so much harm for a sandwich

@FractalDust ngl you should try twisty fried with your burger bro and chicken sandwiches with mayo omggg!!😩

@FractalDust ngl you should try twisty fried with your burger bro and chicken sandwiches with mayo omggg!!😩

@Krystal Youngblood take a look at what happens to make that burger, it may surprise you

@Krystal Youngblood take a look at what happens to make that burger, it may surprise you

@FractalDust my bad had to eat my burger before I responded

@FractalDust my bad had to eat my burger before I responded

I hate that guy, used to feel bad for people like him until social media came along. Complete hypocritical child.

I hate that guy, used to feel bad for people like him until social media came along. Complete hypocritical child.

@Krystal Youngblood Just don't treat animals as a means to an end and let them live their lives.

What we do to them is so fucked up, take a look yourself

@Krystal Youngblood Just don't treat animals as a means to an end and let them live their lives.

What we do to them is so fucked up, take a look yourself

@OlaCogumelo if you can't understand what I am saying you should learn to read, learn what facts and logic are and stop being a slave to the meat industry.

If you really didn't care you wouldn't even be talking to me but you fucking know there is no justification for our treatment to animals and you are trying to brush it off as a joke so that you can cope harder than you have ever coped in your life.

Cognitive dissonance has got your brain trapped in a loop of ignorance my man

@OlaCogumelo if you can't understand what I am saying you should learn to read, learn what facts and logic are and stop being a slave to the meat industry.

If you really didn't care you wouldn't even be talking to me but you fucking know there is no justification for our treatment to animals and you are trying to brush it off as a joke so that you can cope harder than you have ever coped in your life.

Cognitive dissonance has got your brain trapped in a loop of ignorance my man

@FractalDust no one gives a shot about yr point bro we not gonna stop eating chicken and steak goofy 🤣🙏🏽🤧🤧🤧🤧

@FractalDust no one gives a shot about yr point bro we not gonna stop eating chicken and steak goofy 🤣🙏🏽🤧🤧🤧🤧

@Bill Gates you are brainwashed by meat companies into thinking eating steak is cool for some strange reason, take a look at what happens to make that steak you enjoy so much and then come back to me, most people try to avoid that idea as it 'spoils' their appetite

@Bill Gates you are brainwashed by meat companies into thinking eating steak is cool for some strange reason, take a look at what happens to make that steak you enjoy so much and then come back to me, most people try to avoid that idea as it 'spoils' their appetite

@FractalDust stabs into steak
Could you repeat that I was chewing my fresh steak!

@FractalDust *stabs into steak*
Could you repeat that I was chewing my fresh steak!

Nick Labriola There’s no such thing as “natural law” lol. It’s not like there is a constitution for nature. The guy is 100% right. Humans are at the point now where we can change our natural behaviours as we have technology which supports that. Your argument is one of the few arguments anti-vegans have left and it’s an incredibly stupid and invalid argument anyway.

Nick Labriola There’s no such thing as “natural law” lol. It’s not like there is a constitution for nature. The guy is 100% right. Humans are at the point now where we can change our natural behaviours as we have technology which supports that. Your argument is one of the few arguments anti-vegans have left and it’s an incredibly stupid and invalid argument anyway.

@J. Smith amazing scientific evidence here folks, meat makes them feel better so they support the enslavement and torture of them for a sandwich.

veganism has just been destroyed by your lack of facts and self awareness

@J. Smith amazing scientific evidence here folks, meat makes them feel better so they support the enslavement and torture of them for a sandwich.

veganism has just been destroyed by your lack of facts and self awareness

@FractalDust I'm sorry but I don't feel any better after eating a plant so I just said screw it

@FractalDust I'm sorry but I don't feel any better after eating a plant so I just said screw it

@Him4Real if you think victimising weak defenceless animals makes you hard then sure lmfao.

You call me soft to deflect from the fact that you have no justification for the enslavement and killing of innocent sentient beings just for a fucking sandwich. Smh dude get educated and stop acting hard

@Him4Real if you think victimising weak defenceless animals makes you hard then sure lmfao.

You call me soft to deflect from the fact that you have no justification for the enslavement and killing of innocent sentient beings just for a fucking sandwich. Smh dude get educated and stop acting hard

@FractalDust you to soft to watch this man bro. You what he was talking about in the start ultra soft.

@FractalDust you to soft to watch this man bro. You what he was talking about in the start ultra soft.

@FractalDust lmao sorry to burst your bubble but people already have sex with animals without their precious "consent", ask the zoophiliacs and they'll gladly tell you. And again I can impose my will on animals if they can't do shit about it.

You say I'm not standing for what I'm saying yet here I am still standing for it.

I honestly believe you are the pettiest vegan I have seen so far whos gotten triggered over me saying that animals are tasty. Its not like you can change my mind so why bother trying to force YOUR beliefs on others?

@FractalDust lmao sorry to burst your bubble but people already have sex with animals without their precious "consent", ask the zoophiliacs and they'll gladly tell you. And again I can impose my will on animals if they can't do shit about it.

You say I'm not standing for what I'm saying yet here I am still standing for it.

I honestly believe you are the pettiest vegan I have seen so far whos gotten triggered over me saying that animals are tasty. Its not like you can change my mind so why bother trying to force YOUR beliefs on others?

@Salvador Vega it just goes against the idea of consent to impose your will on other beings for pleasure. Your view would also entail people having sex with animals if they got pleasure out of it.

You can do what you want but you should say it out loud what you stand for.

@Salvador Vega it just goes against the idea of consent to impose your will on other beings for pleasure. Your view would also entail people having sex with animals if they got pleasure out of it.

You can do what you want but you should say it out loud what you stand for.

@FractalDust it advocates me satisfying my "pleasure". And my pleasure is my hunger. If you're mad then stay mad but Im gonna continue to eat meat till I die.

@FractalDust it advocates me satisfying my "pleasure". And my pleasure is my hunger. If you're mad then stay mad but Im gonna continue to eat meat till I die.

@Salvador Vega your view advocates for unprovoked aggression against the weak and unintelligent just for taste

@Salvador Vega your view advocates for unprovoked aggression against the weak and unintelligent just for taste

@FractalDust if an animal can tell me they don't want to die I'll listen, but until then I'm glad I'm the species that can speak and eat meat.

Sorry not sorry

@FractalDust if an animal can tell me they don't want to die I'll listen, but until then I'm glad I'm the species that can speak and eat meat.

Sorry not sorry

@Salvador Vega you think animals want to die because they are tasty?

That same argument can be used to justify anything as long as you derive some pleasure from the action.

Sentient beings that are not infringing on us should not be killed unnecessarily.

@Salvador Vega you think animals want to die because they are tasty?

That same argument can be used to justify anything as long as you derive some pleasure from the action.

Sentient beings that are not infringing on us should not be killed unnecessarily.

@FractalDust lmao if they dont want us to dlaighter the animals for food then why are they so tasty

@FractalDust lmao if they dont want us to dlaighter the animals for food then why are they so tasty

@FractalDust  clearly a joke when I said the cow would like to be a Big Mac and if you read I said I know what happens to them , I just don’t give a fuck , I’ve done my research and still , I don’t care , In fact talking about it so much has worked up my appetite , I think ima go run to McDonald’s real quick and get a couple of Big mac’s

@FractalDust  clearly a joke when I said the cow would like to be a Big Mac and if you read I said I know what happens to them , I just don’t give a fuck , I’ve done my research and still , I don’t care , In fact talking about it so much has worked up my appetite , I think ima go run to McDonald’s real quick and get a couple of Big mac’s

@The talisman I don't care about animals to the extent that I want to save every single one myself. I will not take part in their continued suffering however by paying for it with money.

I seriously doubt you think that living beings like to be killed if they are turned a sandwich. I recommend you do some research and you will find that what we are doing to animals is horrible and there is no good justification for it to continue.

We can and we will be better.

@The talisman I don't care about animals to the extent that I want to save every single one myself. I will not take part in their continued suffering however by paying for it with money.

I seriously doubt you think that living beings like to be killed if they are turned a sandwich. I recommend you do some research and you will find that what we are doing to animals is horrible and there is no good justification for it to continue.

We can and we will be better.

@FractalDust  go buy a farm if you care about animals so much and then take care of them how you want , and have you ever tried a big Mac bro ,? Big Macs are so good  I’m sure the cow would be ok with being murdered for something so fucking tasty

@FractalDust  go buy a farm if you care about animals so much and then take care of them how you want , and have you ever tried a big Mac bro ,? Big Macs are so good  I’m sure the cow would be ok with being murdered for something so fucking tasty

@FractalDust  were not ignorant , we just don’t give a fuck , I know how I get my meat , I know what they do to the animals  and i still fucking love it 😂😂😂

@FractalDust  were not ignorant , we just don’t give a fuck , I know how I get my meat , I know what they do to the animals  and i still fucking love it 😂😂😂

@The talisman that doesn't tell the full story, people are ignorant of the suffering that happens to turn animals into sandwiches when it is not necessary.

Take a look at what happens to make your animal products if you like them so much

@The talisman that doesn't tell the full story, people are ignorant of the suffering that happens to turn animals into sandwiches when it is not necessary.

Take a look at what happens to make your animal products if you like them so much

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Well if that suits your kind of lifestyle,fair enough. Not everyone is the same,is my point. Some people react and adjust differently to changes. And a lifestyle change is a big change. To go from eating meat everyday to cutting it off completely isn't an easy task. And I read in couple of articles that a lot of long time vegans go back to eating meat. To each their own, personally all my family eats meat and it's all healthy and organic meat. I like meat and it helps me reach my daily protein,vitamin and healthy fats. In my country,vegetables and fruits are more expensive than meat. I live in a village so we have our own cows,pigs,meat and milk and our own vegetables. All I want to say is that changing ones lifestyle should be a personal choice. We can't go around and convince vegans to go back to eating meat, people who eat meat to go vegans.

@Giovannii we are not asking people from the 3rd world ot thosr who are trying to survive to be vegan. You have no excuse however, if you are living in thr developed world. I weigh 90 kilos, i work out 6 times a week. I don't eat grass, i eat legumes, grains, nuts and seeds, vegetables, fruits, mushrooms and tons of other foods. I get around 170 grams of protein. I supplement b12 and vitamin D. It's not difficult and if i can do it as an athlete, anyone can do it.

@Giovannii we are not asking people from the 3rd world ot thosr who are trying to survive to be vegan. You have no excuse however, if you are living in thr developed world. I weigh 90 kilos, i work out 6 times a week. I don't eat grass, i eat legumes, grains, nuts and seeds, vegetables, fruits, mushrooms and tons of other foods. I get around 170 grams of protein. I supplement b12 and vitamin D. It's not difficult and if i can do it as an athlete, anyone can do it.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Yeah because they had no sanitation,higher chance of being killed in the wilderness,harsher conditions etc. Try surviving on vegan food ehile on thode conditions,and let's see hoe it goes. It's just the way evolution works,we are meant to eat meat due to our body's evolution throught thousands of years. We can't survive on grass no matter how hard they try to push this agenda. Personally,I don't endorse when animals are slain for their skin. Also the production of meat could be more lower,but you can't just expect people to cut off meat from their lives. I personally don't care if you're a vegan or a meat eater,your choice your body,but just don't push an agenda toward others.

@Giovannii our ancestors had an average lifespan of  26 years... Dude..

@Giovannii our ancestors had an average lifespan of  26 years... Dude..

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 also it's not egotistical for him to say that is the purpose of animals. It's just like saying the purpose for fruit is for consumption as well.

 It's a cycle and all life benefit off of each other through consumption one way or another.

 A healthy person that eats meat would become healthy food for the earth and other organisms after death.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 also it's not egotistical for him to say that is the purpose of animals. It's just like saying the purpose for fruit is for consumption as well.

 It's a cycle and all life benefit off of each other through consumption one way or another.

 A healthy person that eats meat would become healthy food for the earth and other organisms after death.

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 it's against the law for most if not all companies to give their animals antibiotics.(atleast for chicken)

Also since it has been exposed how some companies have been improperly treating and harvesting animals they have cleaned up their practices a bit, but if there was a need for meat at some point in history then that does not ever change as time goes on.

If you feel you can get by without it, then that's fine but you can't expect anyone else to follow suit with any vegan experiments.

Also regardless of your views animals will kill and eat other animals, and  they will kill and eat humans if they get the opportunity.

 You aren't going to tell a wild carnivorous animal on land that they can no longer eat meat, nor all the animals in the sea.

@Stop It or just not take part in animal exploitation at all and be vegan.

I have not found any studies to substantiate your claim that meat is necessary, if it was I could see that as a valid yet sad justification that we could hopefully work to fix but that is simply not the case

@Stop It or just not take part in animal exploitation at all and be vegan.

I have not found any studies to substantiate your claim that meat is necessary, if it was I could see that as a valid yet sad justification that we could hopefully work to fix but that is simply not the case

@FractalDust Meat is nutritious and as a former 4 year vegan, I've been eating meat again now for 3 years. If you're concerned with ethics and quality, then buy better quality meat, such as: Organic, Pasture Raised, Local, Free Range, etc. You can support local farms instead of supporting big agriculture and support places that provide meat from ethically raised animals.

@FractalDust Meat is nutritious and as a former 4 year vegan, I've been eating meat again now for 3 years. If you're concerned with ethics and quality, then buy better quality meat, such as: Organic, Pasture Raised, Local, Free Range, etc. You can support local farms instead of supporting big agriculture and support places that provide meat from ethically raised animals.

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair also google the 'appeal to futility fallacy' when you get a chance, it is a common argument used to stop all social movements

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair also google the 'appeal to futility fallacy' when you get a chance, it is a common argument used to stop all social movements

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair that is a silly argument if you ask me, we have always done something so lol you should never try to change anything.

you have now changed your position from people who have chrons need meat to, the world won't change, stop trying.

I doubt you would like that answer if you were the victim, the farm animal in this situation, people don't want to change so sorry you get gassed to death. some people don't like to eat plants and don't like change so sorry you get to die age 4 in a farm instead.

I don't think you have thought your position through

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair that is a silly argument if you ask me, we have always done something so lol you should never try to change anything.

you have now changed your position from people who have chrons need meat to, the world won't change, stop trying.

I doubt you would like that answer if you were the victim, the farm animal in this situation, people don't want to change so sorry you get gassed to death. some people don't like to eat plants and don't like change so sorry you get to die age 4 in a farm instead.

I don't think you have thought your position through

@FractalDust Yes but even if that is the case let’s be honest this world is always gonna be a world where humans eat meat.

@FractalDust Yes but even if that is the case let’s be honest this world is always gonna be a world where humans eat meat.

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair even if some people need to eat meat, shouldn't everyone else go vegan?

why do we continue this suffering when it is not necessary?

@Just Some monkey Man with long hair even if some people need to eat meat, shouldn't everyone else go vegan?

why do we continue this suffering when it is not necessary?

@FractalDust I know how my meat is made and yes I agree it’s cruel and brutal and the sad part about it is the animals that are killed this way turn into “fake meat” or meat that has many chemicals inside but I can’t stop eating meat for I have a condition in which I have to eat meat as apart of my diet which is Crohn’s disease.

@FractalDust I know how my meat is made and yes I agree it’s cruel and brutal and the sad part about it is the animals that are killed this way turn into “fake meat” or meat that has many chemicals inside but I can’t stop eating meat for I have a condition in which I have to eat meat as apart of my diet which is Crohn’s disease.

@FalseAlarm911 I mean I get it but to say it out like that? Yikes.

@FalseAlarm911 I mean I get it but to say it out like that? Yikes.

@Unseen take a look at how your meat is made if you love it so much

@Unseen take a look at how your meat is made if you love it so much

@Unseen you can do whatever you want dude, just think of the animal that is not given a choice and turned into a sandwich

@Unseen you can do whatever you want dude, just think of the animal that is not given a choice and turned into a sandwich

@FractalDust just let us eat the damn meat godamn

@FractalDust just let us eat the damn meat godamn

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Red meat is the best thing dude,what you talking bout? Our ancestors ate that and they were perfectly healthy than kids today. You see a vegan,they are always malnourished. You need to take vitamins in capsules because you can't get it all from plants,like you do from meat. To each their own,but when vegans try and act like going vegan is the true way to live, it's kinda pathetic. It's like when someone tries to convert or force you into a religion,like come on. If a man wants to go vegan,he will go vegan.if he doesn't,he won't. Simple as that

@HyPErCaRniVore NPC 🧀🥓 Red meat is the best thing dude,what you talking bout? Our ancestors ate that and they were perfectly healthy than kids today. You see a vegan,they are always malnourished. You need to take vitamins in capsules because you can't get it all from plants,like you do from meat. To each their own,but when vegans try and act like going vegan is the true way to live, it's kinda pathetic. It's like when someone tries to convert or force you into a religion,like come on. If a man wants to go vegan,he will go vegan.if he doesn't,he won't. Simple as that

@(not-so) dead inside why do people get to kill animals for food? Why don't people like to look at footage of how that food is produced? Why does this YouTuber want to fuck with people who are against animal abuse?

This video is only funny if you are ignorant of the atrocities we do to animals for food that we do not need. Do you think a video trolling the deaths of humans would be viewed the same? People only don't care about animals because they have been advertised to their whole lives telling them it is ok so that companies can profit from the corpses of these animals.

What is so funny about this video?, I would really like to know what you see in it

@FractalDust it's just a funny video why do you need to take this so religiously

@FractalDust it's just a funny video why do you need to take this so religiously

@(not-so) dead inside people change their own minds, it is kinda pointless to try. I am just setting people in a direction.

you can not take a look at what we do to animals and say it is ok if you want but it is just ignorance and not really a choice, it is just blinding following what everyone is doing

@(not-so) dead inside people change their own minds, it is kinda pointless to try. I am just setting people in a direction.

you can not take a look at what we do to animals and say it is ok if you want but it is just ignorance and not really a choice, it is just blinding following what everyone is doing

@FractalDust but why do that if you're not looking to change any minds though :/

@FractalDust but why do that if you're not looking to change any minds though :/

@(not-so) dead inside I am not aiming to change anyone's minds really, I am just supplying the viewpoint of the animals who are victimised by humans for no good reason.

This video is making a mockery of animals and the people who do not pay for them to be killed but you are welcome to like it if you want.

@(not-so) dead inside I am not aiming to change anyone's minds really, I am just supplying the viewpoint of the animals who are victimised by humans for no good reason.

This video is making a mockery of animals and the people who do not pay for them to be killed but you are welcome to like it if you want.

@FractalDust and how many people's minds have you changed in however long you've been debating in comment sections, exactly? if it's not 0 then i'm betting i can still count it with my fingers. Still a damn good video, though

@FractalDust and how many people's minds have you changed in however long you've been debating in comment sections, exactly? if it's not 0 then i'm betting i can still count it with my fingers. Still a damn good video, though

@(not-so) dead inside when this video is making a mockery of something I see it as a duty to educate people.

This video has invited the debate if you ask me, most people don't think about the animals who are clearly victims and this video is making a mockery of their deaths and the people who are against it

@(not-so) dead inside when this video is making a mockery of something I see it as a duty to educate people.

This video has invited the debate if you ask me, most people don't think about the animals who are clearly victims and this video is making a mockery of their deaths and the people who are against it

@FractalDust is it really that hard to not have a debate and just enjoy the video instead<br>it's a damn good video

@FractalDust is it really that hard to not have a debate and just enjoy the video instead
it's a damn good video

The Brahmin Warrior well I am against humans killing each other as well, unless it is necessary such as self defence.

Factories are cruel to animals, they are literally killing them to be turned into a sandwich unnecessarily. We can do a whole bunch of things but I want you to ask yourself, was it really your decision to eat meat or was it just something we are raised doing?

I know we can do a whole bunch of things but just because we can and we currently are doing something, that does not mean it should not be questioned and that we should continue to do it.

The Brahmin Warrior well I am against humans killing each other as well, unless it is necessary such as self defence.

Factories are cruel to animals, they are literally killing them to be turned into a sandwich unnecessarily. We can do a whole bunch of things but I want you to ask yourself, was it really your decision to eat meat or was it just something we are raised doing?

I know we can do a whole bunch of things but just because we can and we currently are doing something, that does not mean it should not be questioned and that we should continue to do it.

The Brahmin Warrior we don't need to hold ourselves to the standards of bears and open the floodgates into endless killing just because other animals do it.

I am not going to do anything about it except ask you some questions because in my experience most people don't choose to eat meat, it is just something they were raised doing and many people don't consider the victims in the equation or how maybe we shouldn't be causing suffering when it is not necessary

The Brahmin Warrior we don't need to hold ourselves to the standards of bears and open the floodgates into endless killing just because other animals do it.

I am not going to do anything about it except ask you some questions because in my experience most people don't choose to eat meat, it is just something they were raised doing and many people don't consider the victims in the equation or how maybe we shouldn't be causing suffering when it is not necessary

@RatPoo yes I would bother a random stranger for our mutual benefit ez

@RatPoo yes I would bother a random stranger for our mutual benefit ez

Nick Labriola we don't need to do things just because they naturally happen. We can survive without animal products so it is a good idea to not inflict suffering on them just for taste.

We do many things that are unnatural today, technology and medicine to name a few, we should not limit ourselves to something because we have always done it.

Nick Labriola we don't need to do things just because they naturally happen. We can survive without animal products so it is a good idea to not inflict suffering on them just for taste.

We do many things that are unnatural today, technology and medicine to name a few, we should not limit ourselves to something because we have always done it.

@FractalDust Animals are meant to be EATEN and yes, some companies kill animals in very cruel ways but they’re still meant to be eaten

@FractalDust Animals are meant to be EATEN and yes, some companies kill animals in very cruel ways but they’re still meant to be eaten

@FractalDust and i personally love dogs, but ur not gonna see me get offended at every Chinese restaurant are u? we eat animals for the same reason we eat candy because it tastes good and im more likely to die by the millions of things that can kill me so im not gonna stress some animals, hell i don't stress human dying around the world why woulf i stress animals?

@FractalDust and i personally love dogs, but ur not gonna see me get offended at every Chinese restaurant are u? we eat animals for the same reason we eat candy because it tastes good and im more likely to die by the millions of things that can kill me so im not gonna stress some animals, hell i don't stress human dying around the world why woulf i stress animals?

@FractalDust they aren't making us we are chosing to kill things and eat them for our pleasure, hell if i ever become vegan its damn sure not for the animals, it will probably be because i want to be healthier or because of a medical problem

@FractalDust they aren't making us we are chosing to kill things and eat them for our pleasure, hell if i ever become vegan its damn sure not for the animals, it will probably be because i want to be healthier or because of a medical problem

@regis blessbin nothing is made for you. Animals are just there, they aren't for your taste sensory pleasure or satisfaction. That's an extremely close minded and egotistical way of looking at life. Nothing in meat that is "essential", that we wouldn't be able to get from plants, especially in the modern world. Yes, at some poin we needed to kill to survive, now we don't, so there's no justification for the industry you are funding that just profits from death, torture and exploitation whilst massively harming he environment, contributing to antibiotic resistance, etc

@regis blessbin nothing is made for you. Animals are just there, they aren't for your taste sensory pleasure or satisfaction. That's an extremely close minded and egotistical way of looking at life. Nothing in meat that is "essential", that we wouldn't be able to get from plants, especially in the modern world. Yes, at some poin we needed to kill to survive, now we don't, so there's no justification for the industry you are funding that just profits from death, torture and exploitation whilst massively harming he environment, contributing to antibiotic resistance, etc

@FractalDust because that's what animals are made for, to be slaughtered an eaten. meat is an important part of our diet as humans, that's why we have survived so long, meat is essential.

@FractalDust because that's what animals are made for, to be slaughtered an eaten. meat is an important part of our diet as humans, that's why we have survived so long, meat is essential.

@FractalDust I’d eat meat and give him a trump flag 😂 and I’d bother him cause he seems like an asshole

@FractalDust I’d eat meat and give him a trump flag 😂 and I’d bother him cause he seems like an asshole

@Zethrane ur comment translated to english is fucking "bees"

@Zethrane ur comment translated to english is fucking "bees"

@FalseAlarm911 So you’re admitting that you’d bother and bully a random stranger for your own amusement? Seek help then.

@FalseAlarm911 So you’re admitting that you’d bother and bully a random stranger for your own amusement? Seek help then.

@Mike F well I am glad we agree on a few things for starters.

I really disagree about cows liking what we do to them, in order to produce milk the cows are artificially inseminated in order to make sure they keep pumping out the milk. Their babies are taken away from them, the boys are usually killed, the girls are given the same fate as their mother, being pregnant for and producing milk and then killed at about age 4 when they can live to 20. Most meat is factory farmed, it is supply and demand.

I would recommend you take a look at what happens in the animal agriculture industry and tell me if you think they are enjoying it and if you would like to be in the same situation.

I know it will take a while for the world to go vegan but I cannot in good conscience continue to support those industries just because I liked the taste.

Sentient beings deserve basic rights and if they are not harming us they should be left alone, not killed or used as commodities.

This video goes into great detail of what happens to animals including cows, I do not think they like it. We torture animals before we kill them because that is what makes the most profit. It is unnecessary and cruel. We can be better and we will be better.

I assume you don't think the same for cats and dogs and humans, all I am doing is extending it to all sentient lifeforms.
https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko

@FractalDust i agree with the science and good for you to not eat animals. Of course you cant expect everyone to make that choice. Yes it would be great if everyone ate plants, but a lot of things would be great if…
My question is why dont animals deserve to die? Just because they feel pain?
I dont think cows mind being treated like property or fed. The only bad part for them is death. (This doesn’t include inhumane farming which i despise, i am solely referring to field fed cows with room to roam). They kill the cow pretty quickly it suffers for a bit but not much more than it would suffer dying naturally. If we dont kill the cow it will still die either from being preyed upon or disease both of which are much more painful. Not to mention a wild cow can starve and break a leg and that’s it. It’s not like cows are not gonna suffer if we leave them alone. I talked about cows just for the sake of something more specific.

@Mike F well I supplied you the evidence of the trillion number I claimed so there is that.

The main reason is because it is not necessary. If there was something we needed from  animals it would suck but we would need it to survive.

That is not the case however. There is nothing in animal products that we need to survive. I therefore cannot continue to purchase animal products as it is a vote for the continued enslavement of animals just to be eaten. It is damaging to our environment in many ways as these animals must eat plants, we are feeding animals to fatten them up which is a huge waste of resources when we can just eat plants.

Animals are sentient and have the capacity to suffer, unnecessary suffering on trillions of lifeforms just for our taste preferences is just insanity to me. I used to not really consider animals but they are victims, they are being treated like property and then killed for their bodies to be consumed by humans.

We give animals antibiotics and diseases travel from animals to humans, we are getting sicker eating animal products than if we just ate plants. Antibiotics are becoming less useful as we waste them all on animal production which is not necessary.

Eating animals just has no benefits the more you look into it and it is of course victimising sentient beings.

@FractalDust first off i was saying you are tripping on the “trillions” chill down. I dont want to fight man. Could you explain calmly to me exactly why animals don’t deserve to die

@FractalDust first off i was saying you are tripping on the “trillions” chill down. I dont want to fight man. Could you explain calmly to me exactly why animals don’t deserve to die

@FractalDust trillions??? Wtf bro you trippin

@FractalDust trillions??? Wtf bro you trippin

@FalseAlarm911 how would you antagonise them and why?

@FalseAlarm911 how would you antagonise them and why?

He’s the type of person me and my friends would antagonize just to get him to freak out 😂

He’s the type of person me and my friends would antagonize just to get him to freak out 😂

@alex k all vegans do is not do something and you say it is a cult.

They just don't take part in animal cruelty, sounds like the real cult is society making everyone just blindly go along with the endless slaughter of trillions of animals for food.

@alex k all vegans do is not do something and you say it is a cult.

They just don't take part in animal cruelty, sounds like the real cult is society making everyone just blindly go along with the endless slaughter of trillions of animals for food.