My experience with the Pimax as similar, but the 60hz is not the only downside it also have no depth, you can look around but not move you head closer, leaning ect ect. Can cause nausia in some VR games i tried.

And there's no pc required, only downside is lower resolution (equal to Rift), and 60-75hz framerate, which this one is locked to 60 anyway

Yeah, just get an oculus go if you don't care about leaning, walking, room scale, etc... It even comes with a controller for $100 less!

Robbaz

Actually, that is not entirely accurate. While it may not be 6dof, there is depth. Ill refer you to Galaxy VR for Cardboard: while you are seated in the cockpit, you can move your head slightly and that lets you to look around the edge of the window allowing you to see more of the engine, for example. It is a mischaracterization to say that there is no depth. It implies that the environment is static, when its not...

Well they say on their site it has 90 Hz.

Stop sleeping in VR and edit more videos Robert!

Robbaz i am hoping that my 60hz ir tracker will fix the axis problems.

I recommend VR Box 2.0 for mobile VR. Much better and comfortable than Google Cardboard. Very popular and cheap.

I can't even afford the pimax. I settled on google cardboard.

Yeah, Nolo VR is the solution. Kickstarter goal was reached within 8 hours.

Just to give everyone in this thread a heads up, if you don't mind dropping £100, there's a product called NoloVR that brings 6DoF movement and controllers that work the same as the VIVE's, the only downside is that it's currently 180 degrees infront, which is suitable for most games however!

If you can't lean/duck and dodge. I'd rather save for the Vive, thanks for your input Robbaz.

Only the rotational movement, no 6DoF? That's a shame, a dealbreaker for me. Maybe I could combine the 3 point LED model I cobbled together for flight sims to get the leaning in as well. I have to do some research.

Robbaz one of my favorite channels watches another one of my favorite channels :D so cool!


Even as a Vive owner, I can only be excited by progress like this. I want to see wider adoption of VR, and lower barriers to entry will benefit everyone. VR is amazing and I can't wait to see what talented developers will bring with a wider audience.


Phillip! I want to say i loved this review! It's something different that appeals to me as i own a vive. I also own a pimax because i wanted to check out the 4k. I do want to tell you though, compared to "real vr" like oculus and vive pimax does not even compare! The oculus and vive have roomscale tracking which means you can move your head not just 360 degrees but you can move in, move out, take a few steps over to the side, it doesn't sound like much but that completes the whole experience! I highly suggest you go out and demo oculus vive, or even playstation vr just to see the in and out tracking (even though the playstation vr tracking is terrible). I also wanted to say that the screen on the pimax is, good in certain areas, like the screen door effect which is good but compared to any other major vr headset it's very lacking. These were just my thoughts and It seemed like you liked vr and i highly suggest you go check out real vr at like bestbuy or the microsoft store or something because in all honosty the pimax feels like a VERY cheap knock off with %25 of the actual features of real headsets. I also want to say, for not having a headset to compare the pimax to, you reviwed this like REALLY well.


Excellent review. It's interesting to see how decent this device compares to mainstream counterparts. Although at the time of leaving this comment, the Rift doesn't cost much more, but still it's nice to see cheaper alternatives. $800 for the Vive was too much for me to consider it seriously, but in the $400 range I'm much more likely to take the plunge (and I have).


Really great review and hilarious. YouTube finally suggested something good for once! Subscribed.

Darkeight 8 my uncle plays elite dangerous but i didnt know it had VR support,maybe getting this VR headset for him if it works.

+404 you're supposed to pay with your vote aren't ya mate

Are you treating subscriptions as some sort of currency?

careful, friend<br>it's a slippery slope

Philip always makes hilarious videos, you're gonna love him

2kliksphilip did you try out Elite Dangerous with VR? I heard that it is one of the best VR games out by now...


I think they'd be even more successful if they made a full hd or  2k even cheaper alternative. That'd blow mobilevr out of the water easily.

They could just give you a "cardboard vr" 6-dof (inside-outside tracking) headset, 3-dof controller and no headphones, and still give it for 40 dollars

Budget Noob--The problem is once you actually play your favourite game in VR, YOU CAN'T GO BACK!...even with it's present res issues and high cost!
I used to play elite dangerous in normal flat-screen but then tried playing it at friends house in VR and now I spent $$$ to get VR and no regrets! Before I just play a game, now I am IN a game IN my very own spaceship! Just being honest here and not trying to sell anything.

It is obvious you have not tried VR yet!

I don't know how you can say that, although I will admit the possibility of an exclusively VR game being in any way successful is extremely unlikely, full VR support is as good as it gets, as mouse + keyboard is still the most common way to play games, and will be for a couple of decades, and because supporting more than one input pattern is THE way to go.

When most games have VR exclusivity, it won't be a sign of an industry evolving, but rather of an industry abandoning an entire market and leaving behind it's greatest strength, and that would be detrimental for the gaming industry overall. So I'd say VR support is as far as any game should go, not exclusivity.

And that would take less than half a decade to perfect? The games you mentioned "support vr" and were not exclusively made for vr. All you say after that I completely agree with...and that is exactly why as I say over and over again RIGHT NOW, as in this year(and the next) VR is NOT worth it.

You say that as if there were no big titles that had support for VR. Arma 2 and Arma 3 both have full VR support and there's a complete port of HL1 for Android also with VR support. We're not as much of a long way from VR being a normal thing as you may think. Companies just have to find a way to make cheaper systems to make it  more available for the everyday game consumer. My idea for position tracking, although not perfect and probably laggy, would certainly work. Sensor fusion methods would kill any innaccuracy on the prediction, too, so that would probably not be a problem.

VR is still at its testing stage...like it or not, until the newer versions of the headset are out with software improvements and more affordable prices it will not gain  mass-consumer status. I'm pretty sure the manufacturers know that and as a consumer myself I won't waste close to a thousand dollars on a half-finished product with a crapload of mini-games. I'm pretty sure tens of thousands share the same concerns. In half a decade or so you'll see millions flocking to the stores for the much improved vr headsets and their advanced improvements...but today? Don't bet on it. And don't worry about vr "shutting down" because of low sales, its way past that point. The next step is improvement and availability for the standard consumer, and like it or not, it will take more than a year or 2 to accomplish that.

Zero Budget Noob Hundreds of complete compatible games? Who will make them if you're putting people off VR? There will be no newer versions of headsets and VR is dead in the water if no one takes a chance on the tech, provided they have the means, of course.

Exactly...people are spending a shitload of money on products that are still at an infancy level with no major titles to play on....I say why rush it...enjoy your ps4/xbox/pc games without vr for now and instead of paying a shitload of money for a test-like head-set use the money to buy a better pc/screen/graphics card....VR can wait...enjoy the technologies we have mastered at their prime and in a couple of years when the newer versions of the headsets are released with hundreds of complete compatible games and much more affordable consumer-level prices, then you can buy them and enjoy the new-age of gaming. But for the time being, VR is not worth the trouble.

i don't know about that. pretty soon, all you'll need for that is your phone. new android devices are all going to ship with gearvr grade vr-compatible motion tracking, so all you'll need for steam VR is a viable wireless connection to a pc, which is also coming with the new 10gbps wifi spec, and a middleware like riftcat, which is already available and works with any gyro-equipped phone (though it kinda sucks because the sensors are laggy in current phones).

so in a couple of years at worst, you won't actually have to buy almost anything to experience entry-level vr.

Marcos42563 or make it 2k with all six directions of tracking

Marcos42563 yeah, 2k, 90hz+ and no headphones, proper controllers, 300€... to dream is free 😔


Great video! It's nice to see that there are cheaper VR alternatives to the Vive and the Oculus.


I owned a Pimax 4k VR for 5 months now. It is generally a great product. I never really had problems with it other than getting the software to work well with it. I had to downgrade to an older version and I use that to hook it up with Steam VR. (I don't use the crappy things that come with the Piplay program)


I'm amazed by how far we've come in 5 years. The fact the quest 2 beats all these headsets while being a mobile headset is just incredible. Looking forward to what 2027 has to offer for VR now!


Great video. Really helpful and enjoyable to watch.  Despite it being a relatively long video. Your style of filming and humour keeps me watching.

The set certainly does appear to bring VR to more people with its price.  I assume that it doesn't register forward and back head movement (zoom)


I've tried a Vive and the biggest letdown for me was the low resolution. This being 4k looks like it might be the solution!


Very nice, fair, honest review. I love your stuff, as always.


I am sure that you could partially solve the lack of no motion tracking device with the Steam Controler, use the gyro for turning around when you are standing and rest of the controller like a normal controller. You would just enable the gyro to be always ON and act like a mouse, so when you would physically turn around when standing and hold the controller in front of you then you would turn around in the game as well.<br>Actually, when I tried HTC Vive my first impression of the controllers was that they are just left and a right half of the Steam Controller, just enhanced a bit to allow you to control each hand on its own which is not very possible with the Steam Controller (maybe with a lot of thinking and tinkering you could do it but it still wouldn't be spot on).

I am sure that you could partially solve the lack of no motion tracking device with the Steam Controler, use the gyro for turning around when you are standing and rest of the controller like a normal controller. You would just enable the gyro to be always ON and act like a mouse, so when you would physically turn around when standing and hold the controller in front of you then you would turn around in the game as well.
Actually, when I tried HTC Vive my first impression of the controllers was that they are just left and a right half of the Steam Controller, just enhanced a bit to allow you to control each hand on its own which is not very possible with the Steam Controller (maybe with a lot of thinking and tinkering you could do it but it still wouldn't be spot on).


I'd guess that VR could work well for first-person vehicle-based games, as you wouldn't have to walk around the room, and you would also be able to use regular controllers.


Hey Phillip, I like the video and I'm glad you have been able to try some VR, but please try the Vive (or oculus) sometime. The PiMax lacks positional tracking, and it's hard to overstate how important this is.


It was best headset for ED/flight/race sims (with Nolo positional tracking) until now
that 5K+/8K are out. It still has better perceived
resolution and SDE than 8K.


When I was watching people playing the new resident evil on psvr, they seem to have implemented a setting to help with the motion sickness when you move your field of view with the controller. It seemed odd at first, but what it seems to do is make the motion jittery and less smooth, when you use the controller, and that apparently helps. Long story short, I think getting motion sick when you control your fov with the controller is an issue faced by everyone...


Nice review, tho it's no longer a fraction the price of an oculus which gives you much more functionality.  You can get the oculus along with the two hand touch controls on special now for $399, even when it goes off special it's $499 which is still a better value to get over the Primax 4K.  This review does get me excited for the next revision of the oculus or the vive which are both expected to have much higher resolution as well as being fully wireless.


For the uploader:
You can use the "Motion" Sensor on your vr and you wont need any controller.
Really nice and easy to install, just glue it on the device.
Maybe you can also solder it to the usb cable?


Seems to me like a well ROUNDED device - <br>Out of 4 I'd give it 3.1415926

Seems to me like a well ROUNDED device -
Out of 4 I'd give it 3.1415926

...53589793238462653383279502 I think this is correct but your free to criticize me as this was from memory

Also the symbol for pi is very similar to the Chinese word yuan(元), which is the unit of Chinese currency.

Also the headset is called PiMax.. This works on all levels!

IT'S ABOUT PRECISION! GOSH PEOPLE TODAY...

+Black Chopper
You just repeated someone elses joke in a reply to their joke
I hope you're ashamed of yourself

you forgot a 1 in pi :D so yes failed ^^


man, but I love the clean, almost wireless look of it. Makes it look definitely like the future, and the smooth look makes this look better than the vive in my opinion. Not to say the thing itself is better, the vive is way better than Oculus and pi.


I'm glad that VR could bring competition to make these headsets cheaper and higher quality.


for the vive you are paying for the lighthouse trackig with room scale and hand controls, it looked like the pi would use a gyroscope which does not have as good tracking as vive. one of the coolest and most attractive parts of the other vr headsets is that you can actually move around and immerse yourself in the world


I think this headset would be a great solution for people looking to use them with driving or flightsims.


You definitely need to look into virtual desktop. It acts as a giant customizable desktop and will allow you to play YouTube 360 videos.

Also Kodi is a great choice, very versatile. Look into the plugins and get to ripping your video collection.


Hopefully the Pimax 8k version will have a 4k upscaling thing for games and native 8k for movies, because if so would be a great content consuming device


now that Vive and Rift are widely available, it's a fundamental problem with the review not to be able to compare purely in technical terms.

edit: also, it needs to be said that pi max is trading more off the 4k nature of its display, rather than any genuine competing features of its rivals. Without comparison, it's a massive call to say you get "80% of the performance for 50% of the cost"


I guess you could try to lower the resolution which should allow you to increase the refresh rate. Back when I used to play GO seriously I would run it at 4:3 stretched not because I liked it, but because my LCD was able to run at 75Hz at a low resolution and it felt a lot better. I hope this helps.


If this thing would have roomscale VR with motion controllers like in the upcoming 8k version, then it would be the VR headset of my choice, but i think i still gonna wait. The 60Hz display is also kind of a deal breaker for me, but if its really not as big of a deal then i maybe i give it a chance at some point. I like the price they are going for, its actually how i expected the Vive and Oculus would have cost befor they announced their price for the consumer versions. Lets see what they are doing next, this gets me excited for VR again!


the only thing that is a let down for my vive is the resolution. I also have Google daydream with a Google pixel XL which had a resolution of 2560x1440 and after comparing the two it's definitely noticeable.


It's not the best VR headset for gaming but for movies. No screen door effect.


If they had equivalent controllers this'd be a brilliant buy.


If the 4k headset doesn't have IR emitters on the headset itself, the base stations wouldn't work for spacial positioning.


not having basestations, controllers and the worse refresh rate makes the price seem a bit overpriced... if you take the 700€ of the vive and then remove 240€ for the basestations and 200€ for the controllers (in store prices -150€ because they probably don't cost that much too make) you get about 260 € for the headset... now lets compare that to 300£ and you see wich one of them really is cheaper... (yes it does have a higher resolution display but that is balanced out by the lower framerate)


Another alternative that is 1:1 to vive/oculus which is somewhat cheaper is the razer hdk2 (it's a opensource devkit, Seated experience only or similair movement tracking like the Oculus DK2 and like the pimax no hand tracking devices, people are mentioning that you are able to hook up a kinect for room tracking and or a playstation eye camera with controller to also have motion controllers). If you think of getting a Vive or Oculus: The vive has better movement tracking up to 7.5 meters, oculus does so in 2,5 to 3m sideways and 1 to 2 meters forward/backward motion. (unless you buy more tracking stations). The vive has some weird cirular lenses (likely to prevent the screendoor effect a bit but you do notice these ingame after a while)... the visuals are much better on the oculus, and because of the soft housing it's allot lighter.

Btw: Any game that has OpenVR support can run most if not any vr-system in some matter.


I think this is really good for simulations such as Project Cars or  DCS, where moving around is not necessary.


Great video, and good to see someone else trying to push the technology forward. Now, what is that gorgeous keyboard and where can I get it? I have been looking for something exactly like that for ages.


There is also OSVR HDK 2.0. It's great to almost the same price.


Only question I got is if it will work in 3 months, would be cool if you could make a new video about it in some time, just to update us about how it "ages" :)


Thank you very much for your review. I've been searching for a headset that would work for my needs in viewing 360º live streaming video from a set of mini BlackMagic cameras shooting 4k at 60fps. I plan to send a ROV fitted with a high end 360º camera system to explore  the ocean animals under the mini sailing cruise ships. I didn't need any head tracking systems like in the Vive or Sony products. I just wanted to bring the diving experience to people who for one reason or another are unable to dive in cold Alaskan waters.

Captain Jack when are you going to release your VR Video? I can't wait to feel that experience.


Excellent review! <br>Has anybody tried connecting this directly to a blu ray player just to watch films?

Excellent review!
Has anybody tried connecting this directly to a blu ray player just to watch films?


The controllers really are the reason I'd still go with the Vive over this, because there's more games you can play with said controllers


Great video, very informative and entertaining! I particularly like the bits of you tripping and walking into things on the hoe! I have a mate in Plymouth with an Oculus CV1 and the controllers, if you wanted to do a comparison...


Thank you very much for this excellent and detailed overview!


11:50 , you can use the nolo vr addon to get hands. It only has one base station, and costs about $100, but there are plenty of software workarounds that have been made, and have proven to work great. But if you are really on a budget, get a windows mr headset($200~$400), which has a bunch of sensors in the headset that track your head, and the controllers very well, and allow for a much bigger play space.


Does it have room scale? does it have specific controllers? Does it have guaranteed compatibility with steam games? Can you integrate real objects into the vr world? I want my Vive


Since it doesn't have VR controllers or those body movement sensor thingies, then this means it would be great for a cheap VR sim racing experience.


I have read your Review as well as watching this video. Great amount of information. The one question that I have is that it says that the device is 110 FOV But I'm guessing its more around the 75 mark from what I have read. I am currently using F/W 1.0.0.248 As no other F/W seams to detect my device. I have a binocular effect which is quite discouraging, Annoying & is really my only issue. Please bare in mind that if I press the headset onto my face hard it gets slightly better but obviously I cant use it like this:( People in the forums are saying the opposite like to add 1cm of padding. I have tried all the IPD adjustment settings from 50-75 which seams to make no difference at all. I love the headset and like I say this is my only issue. Any way around this would be great if you have found anything out in the time you have had yours please let me know.


This is the first time ive seen 4K and "Budget" in the same sentence although it isnt really 4K which makes a lot more sense.


In some games my Vive sometimes reaches 45 fps maximum, it depends on the person but i didn't feel sick after playing with it for a while.


Just a heads up about the joystick turning sickness, make sure you're using snap turn. As someone who is both a VR enthusiast, and someone who gets motions sickness easily, its a godsend


Great video. Really makes me think about using the product if I had one.


This video shows you walking around outside wearing the headset. Does that mean that this has mobile and AR functions. That makes this pretty impressive.


Can't believe the Deus Ex devs ever thought controlling head direction with a controller was a good idea.


the light house and controller's are the whole point c: and plus I feel like 90hz is necessary


4K is not a gimmick, it's a must on VR.<br>Screen door effect is really obvious on FHD and 2k VR

4K is not a gimmick, it's a must on VR.
Screen door effect is really obvious on FHD and 2k VR


here's a question for ya, do you think if you used trackir along with the Pimax that you'd be able to to get that head movement while looking around? if you don't know trackir uses IR leds to track headmovement in simulation games truck simulator and space shooters like elite dangerous


For $400, OSVR HDK v2 is almost certainly a better option. 90hz, 2160x1200, and ir tracking. 60hz with gyroscope doesn't sound optimal. The main market for VR right now is simulators (racing and flight). The extra 30hz would definitely help with motion sickness. I heard that the guys at Sony tried driveclub PS4 with psvr (60hz) and got motion sick after 30mph. I am sure you could get used to it, but I have a hard time making an argument for the pimax when the OSVR is only $400 in the US.


60hz is a killer. 90hz is the bare minimum to do what PSVR, Oculus and Vive are doing. Basically this is a completely different kind of product from the main three VR headsets.

I can't help but be somewhat impressed that the PSVR runs at 90Hz on a PS4. Pretty good optimization (sorry for necroing the comment thread).

PSVR is also 60hz, and this uses the same fake 120hz interpolation.

The killer is not 60hz. The killer is LCD for VR. Pimax (LCD 60hz) and Gear VR (OLED 60hz). LCD = higher potential for motion sickness (ghosting).

Oh and headtracking is very important that this is missing.


There's a cheaper one I plan to try out myself. That's been getting good reviews. But not as high quality. <br>That's suppose to work about the same way with tracking. (Seriously some people are using Pimax software with it apparently).

There's a cheaper one I plan to try out myself. That's been getting good reviews. But not as high quality.
That's suppose to work about the same way with tracking. (Seriously some people are using Pimax software with it apparently).


those built in headphones actually look really good, they look much better than what other headsets do


8:31 no you will get sick by moving around in same manner, on a Vive/Oculus. It is simply the "drifting" movement that makes you sick. This is why most VR experiences uses teleportation to move you around in larger spaces. Source: I own a Vive myself


What you were saying about the nausea, apparently it's more likely to happen if you're very resistant to "travel sickness". Something about your body telling your brain that you're moving vs your brain telling your body that you're moving. I experienced it while trying out HL2 in VR on a rift DK2, since I always got nauseous about halfway through a level, I could never really finish it, but it was a pretty great demonstration of what's to come. If you haven't tried HL2 in VR, I'd recommend it, since the models look to have a higher polygon count than the demos.


I have a vive and find that it seems more like looking through binoculars with a clear image but with a fine grid over the lenses.


It would be nice to see budget review videos like these :D


Gearbest is an awful site. Google their reputation if you don't believe me. You will probably get what you ordered, but any support beyond that is impossible. When I tried to return a DOA tablet, they wanted me to ship it to a warehouse in China before they sent out a replacement, and when I told shipping would cost me 130$ they basically said that's my problem, not theirs. Any return/replacement polices they have are pretty much a scam, and when you're ordering cheap Chinese brands that's not something you want.

Weird, my experience is the opposite, I once made a mistake within my delivery address, but with some pushing and pulling I got it fully refunded (minus shipping costs), which they didn't have to, as their terms and conditions states that they don't have to do anything if you, the customer make a stupid mistake as filling in the form wrong... though, the product I ordered was about 40 dollars, so not that expensive. If gearbest is still a no go, I would also recommend banggood. When the product I ordered there broke, I got a new one and I didn't have to ship back the faulty product (shipping costs where to high for that, which according to their policy they would have to pay if their product is faulty). I only had to pay the shipping costs for the new product, which isn't much, if you live in The Netherlands. Maybe I just got lucky ;)


The more companies the better, competition is the greatest innovator and I cant wait for vr to get more affordable


Quick question, though I might be several months too late to ask it... Around 16:16 in this video, how scary was it to walk into that thing when basically blindfolded?


is Pimax still the best choice? I'm trying to save up for VR and I want to avoid the screendoor effect, and I'd like the highest possible FOV available. what would you recommend? also, I love your channel, subbed.


13:54 it seems valve was working on HL3.

rfr Foglia whatdid he say he edited to say it has some hl3 files in it

@the dark bun are you being serious? The half life series is always been about innovation game mechanics, so vr is a logical step to take in order to achieve this

@the dark bun half-life Alyx IS half-life 3


I think if you had a Rift+Touch or Vive to compare it to you'd be a lot more negative. With the Windows Holographic headsets coming, I wouldn't recommend this.

The Pimax's 60hz refresh rate puts it more in line with phone based solutions like Daydream or GearVR. It uses an LCD instead of an OLED, so it has higher latency and can't do low persistence (similar to Lightboost/blur reduction on a monitor, it's why you saw ghosting). These can make some people sick, and the phones even beat it here.

Not having controllers is a big problem. Tracked motion controllers (like Vive or Touch) are the major focus for VR content. As you mentioned, the headset isn't tracked in 3D space, so you can only look around, and not move your head's position.

The only advantage this has over the Rift/Vive is the higher resolution. If you don't want to spend the extra money, Microsoft's Windows Holographic partner headsets are coming. They all have positional head tracking, and will likely have motion controllers as well. Lenovo is making one for about the same price as this, and it has low persistence 1440x1440 OLED displays for each eye.


The motion sickness was definitely caused by the turning smoothly. Any good friends title will have you teleport instead of smoothly move and rotate.


For me VR w/o being able to orbit-look at an object is out of the question, it's not VR, it's just a bigger display. So I personally wouldn't spend that much money on an almost no-name motorcycle - I would pay double, maybe 4x for a proper, established, sports car.

BTW, what's the system @11:54?

For me VR w/o being able to orbit-look at an object is out of the question, it's not VR, it's just a bigger display. So I personally wouldn't spend that much money on an almost no-name motorcycle - I *would* pay double, maybe 4x for a proper, established, sports car.

BTW, what's the system @11:54?


Well if it was cheaper (considering no IR sensors to track your body movement AND no wireless controllers for it) i would consider to buy it as my first VR...  But doesnt seem any different than VR cardboard this way that i have on my cellphone :D so definitely not worth it. BTW <b>KUDOS</b> for Asus monitor, i myself never switched that brand for 10 years now :D still got my first 17'' monitor running on alt pc, like a day its bought, never serviced.

Well if it was cheaper (considering no IR sensors to track your body movement AND no wireless controllers for it) i would consider to buy it as my first VR...  But doesnt seem any different than VR cardboard this way that i have on my cellphone :D so definitely not worth it. BTW *KUDOS* for Asus monitor, i myself never switched that brand for 10 years now :D still got my first 17'' monitor running on alt pc, like a day its bought, never serviced.


how is it for stationary stuff? like elite dangerous or DCS world? stuff that doesn't need special controllers or weird movement.

also now i want icecream, god damn it philip.


Great video - well thought out. Thanks Philip!


4K @30Hz and 1440p @60Hz. Maybe you can overclock the display using Nvidia control panel to 1440p 75Hz? It's worth a shot.


brilliant stuff mate for 2 weeks worth of vr homework...im intigued by cheaper tech doing the job...i currently play in a similar fasion...s7 with gear vr,modified to use usb tether cable so i can stream games at 60fps via a app called riftcat.....

you can also use steam vr lol and play oculus games via a another app called revive that works with riftcat.

hopefully getting a new rig in coming months due to compo for a back injury at work....will be getting a headset...but dont know witch...i play games like ets and elite,pcars,dcs...im more cockpit sim guy so dont need that walking around stuff so much....i can do that with my ps4 pad.


Got an oculus rift CV1 with 2 sensors and controllers for full room scale for less then this xD<br>also i love VR games like pavlov and have a room too small to turn around myself so have to use the in game turning but after a bit of it i got used to it now i can play any vr game with no problems

Got an oculus rift CV1 with 2 sensors and controllers for full room scale for less then this xD
also i love VR games like pavlov and have a room too small to turn around myself so have to use the in game turning but after a bit of it i got used to it now i can play any vr game with no problems


YouTube recommended something I actually wanted to watch? I'm blown away.


is it able to communicate with software that turns nonVR games into VR? If so then its an amazing bargain.


Stay away from Pimax 4k. Some considerations: HARDWARE: the HDMI 1.4 does not allow to exploit the 4k to more than 30 Hz, and using the resolution to 1k and 2k I was never able to overcome the 60 hz. Videogames in vr that run under 75 Hz can cause nausea, motion sickness, headaches. It really depends on who uses them. I could never use Pimax for more than 2 minutes. The screens are LCD and not OLED. They show ghosting effects every time you move your head. They have no manual adjustment for IPD (Inter pupillar distance) but you must work on the software for the settings. Once you use the Pimax the horizon begins to slowly tilt. Every time I've played a few games in a short time I had to turn myself more and more to the right to keep the image in the center of my vision. As for the SOFTWARE: the Piplay program has come to version 1.2.57 but in the Pimax Forum is recommended to downgrade it to the version 1.1.92. Depending on the model the change in IPD is bugged more or less. With 1.2.57 pupillary distance best for me is 6.3 cm. With 1.1.92 it is 5.8. The software occasionally freezes, sometimes it does not recognize the VR headset and when you change the parameters sometimes you have to restart, others time you have to disconnect and reconnect the Pimax, others must restart SteamVR. About SteamVR, you can not understand what the parameters stored there really involve the Pimax. Brightness and contrast are adjusted in complicated ways and with multiple steps. SUPPORT: I think that selling a product that, from the outset, is potentially harmful to the health of some consumers, it is unserious. If you can feel bad using the Headset that can reach a maximum refresh speed of 60 hz, the thing should be clear. But it is not. Moreover, no one helped me to understand if the illness that I had using Pimax depended on a hardware failure, on a software failure or a from a mine low tolerance for low fps. All the people who have tried my Headset has experienced nausea or dizziness. After some simple e-mail communication, in which the support team has just advised me to update the software, no one has reply to my email. In short, I repeat: stay away from Pimax 4k!


I'm thinking of getting this for flight sims, would this be a good choice. the 4k is very attractive.

*2K it's not actually 4K. The Pimax 4K is sporting 2x 2K displays, hence the "4K" in the same. Same thing goes for the Pimax 8K, it's not 8K, it's 4K.


looks great!  what pc and video outputs would i need to play at least 3d SBS movies smoothly? (lets say, x264, 18GB filesize).  i would like to have a very small pc


I wish there was a cheaper, 1080p version :/

1080p is too low for 110 degree field of view.

AirplaneRandy for movies just get like google cardboard for your phone

KodredCud agree with those below. A OSVR 1.4 or a DK2 is provably what you want.  Just remember you get screen door effect at those lower resolutions.

You're probably gold with the OSVR HDK1, never tried it but it seems like it does what's on the tin.

But it's already quite cheap....and 4k is their selling point


Keep the 4k, up the HZ by a lot (maybe even past 90hz) add base stations and gloves for controls, fix the issues that were in this video. All of this at the price of the vive and you basically steal the market.


For anyone watching this in the future year of 2020-2021, please do not discount VR if you get sick using joystick aiming.  Phillip mentions this, the Deus Ex demo used joystick aiming and got sick from it.  This is extremely common, and people who have zero issues for hours on end using "head" aiming by physically moving their head will get sick from joystick aiming within minutes.


You can use psmove controllers for the hand tracking or leap motion. those are cheap solutions not perfect but goog enough for the price


Still gonna get the Vive. Hand trackers + 90hz + roomscaling is more convincing for me than just 4k.


15:50, Never thought I'd see the day Girl's Generation make it onto a 2kliksphilip video!


checked out the website, and they also have a 200 FOV, 8K 3D Headset as well.


That turning sickness thing is combated by having you turn in 8 angles inatead of turning smoothly, Resident Evil 7 uses this very well.


It seems like a cheap Oculus, I wonder how long until there is a good room-scale VR alternative.


Probably hundreds of videos made accommodates to how well your camera shots are made. I im kinda envy of that


1:08 Holy shit that micro though. Be carefull with that.

HAHAHA<br>that guy was a korean starcraft 1 pro !!

HAHAHA
that guy was a korean starcraft 1 pro !!

Holy shit, scrolled down to the comments just when I saw this hahaha


This could work with ps move. Just get 2 ps eye cameras and 3 ps move controllers (2 for hands and 1 for head positional tracking). I've seen ppl on ytb who have done this.


I own a one of these. It's pretty awesome.


Are you able to use the Pimax as your HMD and pair it with Vive controllers for motion control VR Gaming?


Damn it! It's so close, and yet so far! My 4K monitor will have to suffice for now...


I just found out that pimax released a controller named Nolo.<br>Maybe you could check it out? ;)

I just found out that pimax released a controller named Nolo.
Maybe you could check it out? ;)


it doesn't have controllers or positional tracking, but Nolo (which is on kick starter for $99 right now) can fix both of those problems. Should make for a high quality cheap headset.


I wouldn't consider this a good product, its 60hz full persistence display where as both the Rift and Vive are 90hz Low persistence. the difference between these two are huge, full persistence is smeary and nauseating for a lot of people, you mentioned this when your spoke of the "ghosting" you experienced. Low persistence is clear and the extra 30fps per second adds so much more "perceived resolution". 4k resolution sounds great but I wouldn't trade 90hz low persistence for it.

My second biggest issue is the lack of positional tracking, your brain can detect when its moving and if what you see doesn't add up to that it can be very sickening. Sort of like the opposite of getting car sick. feeling motion where there is none is not pleasant.


For PIMAX 4K if you need positioning tracking, check out NOLOVR this is official product supported by PIMAX engineers to provide PIMAX 4K with real, full powered positioning tracking feature.

Notes:
PIMAX 4K with a serial number 100xxx is a real 4K Display (IPS)
PIMAX 4K with a serial number 102xxx is a 2K Display (OLED)

Basically 102xxx serial is BE version (Business Edition) which is why it uses more expensive OLED screen.  But lower resolution.


I played the vanishing of ethan carter in vr with the cv1 oculus, couldnt play more than 10-15 mins without feeling nausea, could take it up to 30 minute after that I would start to close my eyes while playing to keep up. In the end the ambiance of the game was stressing me and I was scared of a jump scare so I ended up stopping playing. One thing that worked great was that I screwed a ring to the ceiling to more around free, was quite nice, would also walk on place to simulate movement while using the controller.


You sold me. I love the HTC vive but the bugger is too expensive.

@GraveUypo I think it's reached that point now ;)

so have i. it was honestly a let down. the little will to buy it i had before faded completely. i'll look into it again when it hits $300 and there's actually more than just minigames on the market.

But he hasnt even tried the vive. The vive is the best experience you can have on vr. this doesnt even have room scale or controllers it seems. I'd struggle to call it VR at all.


Looks great, but they say they are coming out with an 8K version.  Will probably wait for that and hope for better refresh rates.   Really wish PSVR would have had this kind of resolution.  :-(


I still honestly would rather save for a HTC Vive and get proper room scale features and <b>actual</b> VR, not to forget added support and features from Valve.

I still honestly would rather save for a HTC Vive and get proper room scale features and *actual* VR, not to forget added support and features from Valve.


What controllers can you use for these?<br>From what I read the Vive and Touch controllers only work with their partner headsets..

What controllers can you use for these?
From what I read the Vive and Touch controllers only work with their partner headsets..


Here is a tip : If you cross your eyes the right amount during the vr footage, you will get double vision. Adjust how crossed your eyes are until the left video overlaps with the right video. Now you can see in 3d.


Welp, I wrote in the Discord something about Philip and VR, and two minutes later this is published. Nice.

I first saw the video about a week ago, spent most of the time since trying to come up with a good pun for the comments to challenge you with. Needless to say it was crap.


I might buy this, but I could also buy an Oculus DK2 for 250 euros used.
Or a PSVR with controllers and a camera for 400 euros used. It's now possible to use it on PC.
What's the best choice?


It would only be truly competitive if it had handsets and position sensing and stuff. until they do that it's not really worth it in my opinion.


loved the outdoor scenes.
specially 18:16


I've tried all three, the Vive, the Oculus, and recently the Pimax 4k. A friend who makes games for VR got one and let me try it. It's a pretty crazy coincidence that almost right after I try it you review it, but I was pretty disappointed. What killed it was the 60Hz. The Vive and Oculus have 90Hz. I can deal with sitting only, but the 60Hz feels choppy and nauseating compared to the Vive or Oculus. For someone who hasn't ever used VR before it might be ok, but coming from the other two is a definite and obvious downgrade. The tracking also gets a bit choppy sometimes.

Oops yeah, that's a typo. Fixed it thanks.


Higher refresh rate, fix the ghosting and lower the resolution and it'd be considerable imo.


The OSVR HDK 2.0 is a far better choice for the same price.


the pimax site doesnt offer most of the stuff shown here anymore. the pimax only works with very very few games that do not have positional tracking and do not need the vr controllers. Most of voxpr modded older games also do not work with the pimax because it is not being recognized as a Rift..<br>Still: It costs less than a 55" screen and the movie experience is well worth the 300 bucks

the pimax site doesnt offer most of the stuff shown here anymore. the pimax only works with very very few games that do not have positional tracking and do not need the vr controllers. Most of voxpr modded older games also do not work with the pimax because it is not being recognized as a Rift..
Still: It costs less than a 55" screen and the movie experience is well worth the 300 bucks


I think i ll save my money and wait for the VIVE price to go down a bit. I want to try fps vr so bad :)


Does it induce nausea if you use the Pimax while eating 500g of sugar free gummi bears?


Those looking for budget VR should rather look at OSVR, it's got 90Hz and it'll probably be supported the longest of all systems, being open source.


What codec do you use that turns areas of the video that are rich with details into kaleidoscope image?


I think that when you tried to give games the review in that respect, you only played games that would be demo'd at the HTC vive stand in Curry's,  I think that if you had experienced Elite Dangerous the PC/PS4 Valkre, and other titles instead of cheap demos  that use up-cycled wii remotes.  If you had experienced titles like i mentioned that use controllers, (you can use a ps4 controller on pc) or even keyboard n mouse you might have been able to appreciate the singular headset instead of playing a party game that would excite aunts uncles at a drunken new years party.  Well thought out review, but you missed really trying some titles that could have given the display a good run for it's money


So what you can do to use vr controls is use the Razer Hydra, i already have them and there is a steam created mod that makes them mimic the vive contollers.


just a tip: never take your hmd outside. The sun kills the screen via lenses.


Thx 4 the info. Will buy the 8K version with controllers, if it's usability is up to Vive.


One question: Can you play in a resolution lower than 4K?


One question do you think it will work on a 8 gigs ram i5 laptop? I want to get into vr but i don't want to get into VR but i don't want to have to buy a new computer to do it.


8:15 I think that turning your head with a controller is the issue here.
2 months ago i had opportunity to test oculus with  quad copter demo. The copter was controlled with a controller and the whole thing made me sick after couple of minutes.


Nice review and the outdoor shots were hilarious


It only has 60Hz which might be a bit too low for VR.


for that price and if someone has a PC that will work on the rift, might as well take advantage of the limited time offer they have going right now.  The headset and the touch controllers for $399


>bamdwidth limitations <br>why not use HDMI 2.0??? silly company.

>bamdwidth limitations
why not use HDMI 2.0??? silly company.


Did you try overclocking the panels on the headset to run at a higher refresh rate?


You could have mentioned earlier that you haven't tried the oculus or vive for comparison specially after hearing reviewers from people that have experienced the other VR sets.


So if i want a VR HMD for a non-VR game like skyrim that doesn't support leaning I guess this would work fine.

(there is a mod that decouples view direction from aim direction in skyrim, arma-style)


5:02 An Easter Egg for a new "Going Low In CSGO" series


My biggest concern is that if my glasses would fit in the headset...


I got a DK2 and am planning to try this soon, but PS Move controllers should work with this headset too.
https://github.com/cboulay/PSMoveService/wiki


I really enjoyed your video my friend, thanks for using your time to make it


I imagine the Pimax has a much lower framerate as it's higher resolution and cheaper.

Watch the video before commenting... and your answer will be revealed

And it doesnt have controllers and stations. As a Vive owner thats something must have with vr.

framerate depends on your video card.<br>The only downside as mentioned in the video is that the Pimax has 60hz refresh rate, compared to 90 on the HTC Vibe and Oculus Rift

framerate depends on your video card.
The only downside as mentioned in the video is that the Pimax has 60hz refresh rate, compared to 90 on the HTC Vibe and Oculus Rift


i am not sure if 4k is worth it. it might be better to have 90 hz 1080p. though i have never tried 4k vr. but i imagine that the 60hz aren't enough.


I cant wait for the new one which is gonna have 4k in each eye, so I can use it with virtual desktop and have a bazillion imaginary monitors.


Great review. Does this company make a 120Hz version?


The question is..... does it have distance detection?


I'll wait until oculus or Vive become 4K or 5K with 90Hz. Then it would be worth it and I would still likely mostly watch movies as if I were in a real cinema.


i would live to see a review of occulus and compare them, your reviewing is great.


The question is: does it work with Elite Dangerous? That is the only Game where I am truly looking for VR.


Poor does not equal young or student, it means if you have a sustainable job that doesn't pay well. If you have a job, $300 isn't much.

cybersasho  Because we are poor and didnt had money for it lol.

bratan why dont u buy bitcoins 10 months ago??


imagine a vr headset that has provides a cinematic 24hz experience


The music on all your channels Philip is always AMAZING!! :)


if you really cant wait to try VR and have a decent smartphone with gyro sensors. try a vridge with google cardboard.
.
it lets you connect your phone to your PC as a steam compatible VR headset... theres even a limited trail version (10 minute gameplay sessions before restart)


How much alcohol did you drink as a child?

people are good at taking jokes like real talk 200% autism

"Since I was a child"<br>not "While I was a child"

"Since I was a child"
not "While I was a child"


Hello! Very nice video! And especially thanks for the subtitles, cause sometimes I can not understand you (you have a great diction, but I'm russian man who knows english pretty well, but still not enough to understand all) ... :) Can you please answer: is it possible to wear this VR glasses with my usual glasses?<br>Thanks for vid and reply! You're great reviewer, bro :)

Hello! Very nice video! And especially thanks for the subtitles, cause sometimes I can not understand you (you have a great diction, but I'm russian man who knows english pretty well, but still not enough to understand all) ... :) Can you please answer: is it possible to wear this VR glasses with my usual glasses?
Thanks for vid and reply! You're great reviewer, bro :)

Геннадий Тарасов


this has to be the first outdoor vr hardware review


are there vr controllers for these? just because I don't feel the vr that much and the controllers is the coolest thing in vr.


Philips is such an expert at reviewing shit, I love him


I think the Pimax 4K is pointless, I mean the Google Cardboard can do everything this thing can do for cheaper and you can use special software on your PC to connect your phone to your PC and use the cardboard to play PC VR games.

It's for people like me who want visual clarity for flight and racing sims and are allergic to SDE and smartphones

Can't play Elite Dangerous on a smartphone.

Well what about refresh rate? Your probably going to get 30HZ from a 7 Plus (coming from experience)

With a couple of cameras, a good quality USB cable a good phone and some know-how anything is possible.

Coming from someone that has tested most of the consumer headsets I’d say mobile VR sucks. No positional tracking, No 6of controllers. However using a larger phone e.g iPhone 8 Plus would give you a much larger FOV. Depends on your lenses (Fresnel or Bipolar) focal length and IPD. However for cardboard headsets you only get a limited selection (Google, Chinese Wholesaler and those binoculars you pulled apart)

I think the bandwidth would be a lot less, and screen latency would be even higher (nausea). Also, you'd need a super high end phone with at least a 4K screen (do they even exist?) to not get screen-door effect. I've used a cardboard, and the FOV on it is laughable.


Ok, so the bandwidth issue could just be fixed by using a better connection technology than HDMI... A lot of use (including me) don't even use HDMI for our monitors because it's just not good enough, I use DisplayPort for my 2560x1440 monitor to run at 60.

Also the motion sickness, this is the main problem we have in VR at the moment, it'll go away slowly over time the more you use it, also you need to avoid Analogue movement from Gamepads, so rotating using the Right Stick, or Moving using the Left Stick, these are a big no-no... Games mostly avoid allowing these to be analogue, usually this means the rotation will simply jump a certain number of degrees and movement will just be digital, so up moves forward, slow/fast is ignored.

EDIT:
One more thing, 4K (and definitely 8K) are totally pointless right now for anyone that doesn't have the most state of the art super computer and enough money to upgrade it constantly right now.


kliksphilp, please compare this to a mobile device using riftcat. It's a software which allows you to use your phone as a vr headset for your PC, using a usb cable.


You're probably not going to respond to this question, but I'd like to ask you if you could test it with Unreal Engine 4's editor? It is free, after all, and from a developer's standpoint it'd be nice to see if it works with UE4.


What about some of the triple AAA games where you'd expect a controller? GTA V has a Vr mode now i think? and games like resident evil 7?  Will they all work through steam? P.S thanks for the vid... I live in China and tempted to order one.


A great deal of compromise in quality to give you 4k.


classic 2kliksphilip video, funny and informative with the typical accent. Excellent


i think a better otion is a second hand headset from ebay or something, you can get a vive or oculus for £200, thats what i plan to do once ive upgraded my computer a bit


I think the vive 2 will be the best thing for a long time. Until something akin to "full dive VR" like in that crappy anime comes out.


Did you try any racing games yet? Would the 60hz be too low for those?


If it doesnt have 6dof tracking and 6dof tracked controllers, it doesnt count as vr, period.


Combine this with NoloVR, and you got yourself a budget Vive/Oculus

Nyanch that’s not actually budget as this is 300 and that is around 400 so yeah not on budget. Rather get two psmove for 20-30 dollars


You should do a comparison between the oculus and vive


Pimax dosn't come with IR tracking so you're only going to see Roll pitch yaw, no move ment along XY axis


thank u for this video. I don't need base stations or hand controllers, as I wanna play flght and car sims. so good gyro is more imprtant. Do you know if they are compatible with eye glasses?


Or yah know also the most used and purchased headset by far springs to mind too...


The Oculus rift is now the same price (Well almost) As the PiMax


The review is nice and all but the experience is nothing like the Vive, there is no roomscale or controllers to immerse you into the new reality although for this price it may be a good buy for someone that cannot afford a Vive.<br>(Vive user talking)

The review is nice and all but the experience is nothing like the Vive, there is no roomscale or controllers to immerse you into the new reality although for this price it may be a good buy for someone that cannot afford a Vive.
(Vive user talking)


Thanks for sharing this. You really do apologise too much, but you're very likeable :) I will watch more.


imagine microLED from apple for a vr headset.


Watching Philip talk at 0.5x speed is really pleasing, for some odd reason.


Very positive review for kliksphilip standards


can you use this with the hive controllers?


No Positional Tracking and no touch controllers which still makes it not as good as the Rift or Vive.


Wonder how this works with games like war thunder/ Elite dangerous/etc.


You have to try House of the Dying Sun. 2 hours of space flying ecstasy!


VR without roomscale tracking is very boring and makes VR look more like a gimmick. You will never get a good deal of immersion without being able to use your hands and walk around your room.


Wake me up when Eyetracking with Adaptive rendering with 4k+ panels is a default standard for VR. Then I might considering buying one device.

Look up star VR. Eye tracking will be part of the second generation of VR HMDs.


Look into the PsMoveService! I'm setting that up right now, it lets you use Move controllers for Vive games!


Well yeah, it’s cheaper than the other headsets, but you don’t have controllers or base stations.


Hey Philip, what kind of keyboard are you using? (12:30)
Looks pretty good.


Hey Philip! Nice Video, very informative.
Can you please tell the name of that keyboard you are using?
Im looking for a new mechanical keyboard, and yours looked exactly like i wanted it.
A reply would be much appreciated!

Where does one buy this google? I've heard so much about it.<br>J/K Thanks alot, man!

Where does one buy this google? I've heard so much about it.
J/K Thanks alot, man!

This looks like it, took about 60 seconds to find using google: https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Keyboard-Mechanical-Backlight-keyboard/dp/B01890YINM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8


They work with Vive controllers and lighthouses


This is now around 250 USD, and the vive can be found for 500 now.


I think VR could be THE FUTRURE,but price stops that,sad really :(


Try connect PS Move as controllers, there are tutorials on the Internet.


3000HKD for a 4K VR HEADSET!?
AMAZING.
got dat free shipping aswell fam


thanks for your video- how did  you play VR fun house if the pimax doesn't come with tracked controllers?  thanks


8K?!?! I think I might have to upgrade my R9 280X.


have you tried DCS with it? 6DoF would be useful though...


Vr will become very cheap because in the future all you will need is one base station and a tracker to stick on a cheap headset. And then along with the tracker you stick a leap motion on the front to use your hands in vr.


Holy cow you have the same controller as me I feel so special


How does one control the Pimax, when watching movies for example,...does the buttons on the set Work for selecting stuff in menu's etc. etc. ???


there are two reasons i want a VR headset. Warthunder with a joystick, and racing games with a pedals and racing wheel


nvidia shutting out others that don't have hardware made by them or their partners? NEVER


I think I'm gonna wait for Occulus Gen 2 before I get a VR Headset


I recommend you the nolo vr that’s permit you to have controller and move in the environment


Can you trust it? Can you trust a reviewer who models a headset as everyday wear in public? (kidding)

Sounds like it might be the biz for sim games where you're sitting down, looking straight ahead and moving your head to look about.


Nice review, btw, have you tried Project car with it ( or others car games )  ?


I love the Pure Pwnage reference at 1:08, haven't thought about that show in years


If I can play racing games with this it'll be more than enough! Don't need hand controllers :-)


THIS IS THE ONLY DECENT REVIEW I HAVE EVER SEEN OF VR DOOOO MORE


when you can play in higher resolution on vr than I can normally.


well ... on a rewatch ...

I assume the "buzzing" is probably the resistor.

It happens with every chinese appliance.

I "think" it's to save on materials, as you build just one circuit and change the resistance for the desired effect.


yes it is cheap, but it is missing tracking, and without that it is equivalent to a google cardboard.


I will wait about year until the big companys make their products cheaper. At the moment tthere are too much cheaper pc vr haedsets like this, so I will probably buy now one that is missing features that are important in the future.


I am only going to use it in games Like DCS, WarThunder, Il-2  or Elite Dangerous. I don't care about interactions, since I do have what I need to fly so all I need is a good tracking and display device


Off topic (sort of), but do you have any info about that "cheap" Chinese-made mechanical ten keyless keyboard that was "80% as good as the European version at 30% of th price?


hi man kinda new to vr and i was wondering if a i5 4690k and a gtx 1060 (3gb) could do the trick


this "budget" vr is still well over 300-400€ ..for anyone who is wondering


i got my Oculus rift for 222 pounds and it came with two sensors and the two touch controllers


Btw the oculus + controllers is 400 pounds on amazon


60hz on a vr headset? Idk if my stomach would handle it xd


i see that it does not have any tracking cameras, how does it feel when panning?


Imo, Pimax is a bit scummy. The controllers and base stations advertised never came. There was a preorder thing for them a few months ago, but that's completely disappeared now and has been replaced with Valve's base stations and knuckles. I don't know if people who preordered the Pimax base station and controllers were given a refund, but I doubt they were seeing as how it all just kinda disappeared without a trace


Which keyboard is that? I might get myself one of those!


if it comes with controllers and support for VIVE games I am in.


the vomit-inducing controller thing is a known issue with VR on all platforms, it's not exclusive to the pimax


Only 60hz?
Nah man, I am out.
Gonna wait for something else :D

Great Video though!
Very good presentation :)

But thats not "real" VR.
They are described more like a 360° image viewing device.
So not that immersive.
But VR is still in its infancy anyway I guess (all those tech demos).

All mobile VR headsets = 60hz. Samsung Gear VR, Google Daydream....


This really does not seem worth it. Very limited set of features, very limited set of games. Basically a high resolution DK1. 1/3 of the price, but 1/10 of the experience.

Lack of positional tracking and motion controllers, and even 90hz is an enormous  setback. The only reason this reviewer can stand it is because he does not know what he's missing.


If you want cheaper VR just for the lolz, Android users can try RiftCat, it's emulates steamvr and oculus rift hardware for really cheap, you can try a demo. It works fairly well but there is a bit of drifting, you can counter this by buying a third party device called EDTracker and use OpenTrack! This is what I use..... On top of it all, it's wireless! :D

EDIT: Also, Philip, if you want to have controllers you can emulate vive controllers using 2 playstation move controllers and 1-3 playstation eye cameras! https://github.com/cboulay/PSMoveService


Can you use this with Oculus Touch Controllers?


2010: Dont sit too close to your screen, you will hurt your eyes.<br>2018:

2010: Dont sit too close to your screen, you will hurt your eyes.
2018:


finally you have a decent desk and proper mousepad !


This looks PERFECT for war thunders VR mode


You get 60 fps by using twixtor or fram interpolation right?


8:14 resident evil 7 has made it so that when you move the right stick(look) its snaps 30° to which ever direction (left or right)

you can play that game for hours with that mode, but if you switch the mode so that its like in the dues ex demo you played, it makes me sick within 30 seconds


You can use leap motion vr controllers, or nolo vr controllers.


20 minutes of phillip?<br>Never before have I clicked a video so quickly...

20 minutes of phillip?
Never before have I clicked a video so quickly...


tbh I feel a little bit tricked. the headset runs either at 2560x1440p@60Hz or at 3840x2160p(native resolution) with 30Hz per eye because it is only HDMi 1.4b ... :(
The ghosting is also unbearable and 30Hz introduce a horrible flicker on any bright surfaces.
before you ask, yes I bought one but not a new one. k got one from eBay unused.


technically you're going to have a slight bias because they gave you a free headset but I still loved the review!


I guess you have to get VR now, since Half-life


I bricked my pi max a couple of years ago lol but kept it all as the screen was a 4k sharp 5.5" LCD, the optics were good quality, and the body was well-built. Tossed out that shitty mother board and waited for the Sony Xperia X5 premium to get cheap. Well got one yesterday for 150 Canadian dollars. Had to run Minimal ADB and Fastboot on it to set the NATIVE resolution to 3840 x 2160 at 820 ppi  which is Bananas. It comes from factory stuck in 1080p with 4k kicking in only for the gallery and YouTube (sometimes).  So that was quick 10 mins no rooting. Then I bought the iVRy app for 10 bucks, ran the Steam app on my PC, and after finding good USB cables made it run in REAL 4K. The PiMax was a lie it was never going to run at 4K, as the HDMI would not allow it and the main  board was complete garbage. I cooked it trying to make it work... But this looks INCREDIBLE! Even with the terrible tracking it looks better than the many I've tried. I first tried with a GEAR VR headset but the optics were not adequate, so I dug up the Pi crap. I have a Lenovo Mirrage Solo I got new the other day for 90 bucks, and I might steal its onboard tracking. It works quite well, so I might find another solution. My rift is trashed from 100's of hours of use, and getting pitched from my racing wheel all the time, because I'd forget and hang it there. Might dissect that old guy.  Now I have an extra 4k 5.5, so I got one of these cheap PRC projectors which just use a super bright LED some simple optics and an LCD with the back lighting removed.  With a driver board (80 bucks) and a bit of delicate work I will make my 150 dollar 720p projector into a true 4K projector, sharper than the lower end 1500 dollar Optoma's available. Search 4k diy projector on the tube to see what I'm going on about. Anyway, if you got a Pi Max or a Xperia Premium or both, there is a couple ways to get your money's worth. I'll stick a link to a short video here soon...

I didn’t understand a thing you just said, but it sounds nice being able to scrap things into different items. Too bad I don’t have the knowledge to do it 😭


no tracking -> not compareable to rift or vive
thats exactly where they cheaped out since this is the real point of pc vr.
This experience is a lot like cardboard and not like vive/oculus

You can add your own positional trackers. The Pimax 8K will have built in positional tracking.


1:34 ...right in the feels ,right in the third era


I really like the random shots with the headset on your head. Looks very futute.


Ohh now I regret buying my osvr for about the same price last year, this looks sooo much better ;((((

explodingcamera and then you would regret buying this next year when the next device is out. Don't dwell too much on the past


Now add PS move to it and you can have Vive like controllers, and head tracking

You can use 3 move controllers, and a camera. Then use 2 controllers are actual controllers, and the third one as head tracking.

except no headtracking because there are no leds or anything on the headset for the camera to track like on the rift and psvr.


There is also osvr and thats made by razer and thats 120 hz


I want a review if your keyboard and controller that you showed in this video. I just can't get enough kliksphilip in my life.


Oh Philip, you should have just waited until you could emulate PC VR on mobile headsets...


Yes but runs at 60Hz when the ideal is 90Hz.


Wait... How did you play Vive games without the Vive controller?


I just bought an Oculus Rift for the same price as this...lol


I'd take the oculus out of the decision...


how do you get around so many of the Steam VR titles needing the motion controllers to work!?


Oculus and vive have room tracking, but this doesn't. It's basically cardboard with high quality screen.


But can you use the htc vive controllers with it?


Honestly without room scale,  higher frame rates and tracked controllers this is not VR.  You are not experiencing VR at a lower price, just selling yourself short.  Companies are ruining the VR market providing these subpar experiences.  There is a big difference between room scale and having a monitor strapped to your face.  It's night and day.


I have an AJazz Keyboard also. I've had it since September 2015 so my WASD, Shift, Ctrl, and Space keys are fading lol.


For anyone reading these comments: Look at Windows Mixed Reality. It's a lot better, and a bit cheaper, but didn't exist a year and a half ago when this video came out.


Jokes on you Philip, the VR support WAS for Half Life 3!


I've been told my field of view is wider that most, mine is wider than 180 degrees.


VR is still too expensive for the amount of fun you can get out of it , the so called ''games'' are simplistic and boring , often times you cant play for more than 1-2 hours because you''l get motion sickness. another 4-5 years and maybe VR will be worth the price.


i was thinking about your confusion abuot the 2k making the resolution look worse, don't forget the 4k is in fact 2x 2k lcd's one 2k per eye,


I was like, "how the f everyone on yt is a sound expert and knows to determine highs, mids and lows, while im yet to understand what they are" and then you got me.  LOL,  I love your humor.


Video mentions headset is 4k

Me: Woah! Technology!

Video mentions 8k headset to be release.

Me: WAIT, WTF DID YOU JUST SAY?! 8k VR HEADSET IS GOING TO BE RELEASE SOON?! WOAH, WTF IS THAT TECHNOLOGY?

Video mentions headset is 4k

Me: Woah! Technology!

Video mentions 8k headset to be release.

Me: *WAIT, WTF DID YOU JUST SAY?! 8k VR HEADSET IS GOING TO BE RELEASE SOON?! WOAH, WTF IS THAT TECHNOLOGY?*


the vr glass for me
1.can play minecraft
2.can play non vr games
3. dont need very system requirements


BROOO I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THE SAME KEYBOARD AS YOU, that keyboard is honestly dope, if you're looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard, that keyboard is the AJAZZ AK33 and it's even got rgb lighting


When you were using it outdoors was the cable plugged into your phone?


no controllers! can very easily make up the price difference.


Does i work with any of the Oculus "Exlusive" stuff?


So...it's still useless without positional tracking...


0:55 the encoding makes this look trippy as fuck


You should try out Windows Mixed Reality


There is a program called Trinus VR that lets you use PSVR on PC. It's the cheapest way to get a good VR experience in my opinion.

@The Safehouse Yeah the Oculus Quest will probably be a better option.

SmokedKittens81 I disagree that this is the cheapest for good VR.

As the WMR headsets made by Asus and Lenovo are now $200. With an HMD stand-alone by Lenovo for $100.

WMR headsets are natively supported by most games now. So it’s probably better to pick one of those up.

However that still leaves the requirement of a good PC. So really the best budget VR is going to be the Oculus Quest.


I liked the pure pwnage reference when you were walking in public. Gave me some nostalgia and now I'm watching cooking with dave (He's pro at cooking)


There is a problem with this headset.... There is no standard to follow. Only hype.... It's great that Pi made the headset, but there is no position tracking or support to evolve this product more. This headset is more like a cellphone VR. In other words, once you start adding controllers and the game needs you to move around(position tracking). The headset is obsolete already. This headset will be great if it came out the same time as Oculus Rift DK1. Then again.... Oculus Rift DK1 was  developer kit. It will still fail.  Avoid this and keep up with the latest technology.


required games support to use it on gaming ?


That may sound dumb, but couldnt you just use Wii remote controllers, instead?


I heard there is no head tracking in pimax. can you still look everywhere by moving your head?


why do you sponsor Gearbest?
when i ordered this headset (6 weeks ago) they told me to wait for max 1 week before it would arrive, but here i am mailing them about order not coming and DHL doesn't even know about my order
and one of the explanations i got was that the ordered item was out of stock and there was high demand for it, but when i checked it on their site it said: 47 pieces left


300 dollars seems high now that the mixed reality headsets are out for 200? and has better software.


Do a review of the G900 (i saw you had one on your desk).


This is China electronics at it's best. I love chinese stuff. Xiaomi makes some of the best phones in the world for dirt cheap, i have a bunch of earbuds that would put any european brand earbuds to shame for less than 12$. ( Quite literally, my 30$ audio technica are more durable but don't sound as good, given they cost three times the price, i can replace the chinese ones whenever i want, not even talking about other brands that cost even more and sound like trash in comparison ). They make game console like the GPD XD which is like Android Nintendo DS that emulates anything up to the PSP, and for half the price of a real one... It's awesome, but i can't help wondering about how much corporate espionnage and IP theft is actually going on. I'll still buy this stuff though, but at some point i'm sure it'll become a problem for western manufacturing and developpment and this will a problem. Right now the important bit is to make out which company really cares and which one doesn't. It's kinda like early access games. Sometimes you can end up with a product that just isn't as good as it should have been, and sometimes you can be really amazed.


So basically, save up for htc vive. The compatibility is pretty bad it seems.


If you have a google cardboard or similar device, use TrinusVR


this is cheap because no DOF tracking hardware. Pimax 8k version with all stuff exactly like htc vive is 800 $. Better decision i think is Samsung gearVR, or even coming asus tango - dream phone with dream hmd. Because it can use SLAM tracking with only camera


Seems to be great for VR porn. Most VR porn doesn't take advantage of neither positional tracking or motion-controllers, since they are just high-resolution 180 degree videoes. You get these features in a Vive or Oculus+Controllers, but not in the Pimax headset.


Can you get hand controllers separately?

It's even more great in combination with Nolo VR (motion controllers). Pimax 4K the best in image quality I seen so far. No screen door effect. Disadvantage: LCD instead of OLED = ghosting / higher latency / higher potential for motion sickness.

@VR VIDEOS 3D So with a 5 dollar hand controller, this headset could be pretty great, right?

Yes, there is a demonstration video on YouTube.


I would personally pay the extra sixty bucks for the occulus


Superb work dude. The cutting in the music is really distracting and annoying though. Sounds like the video is buffering. The producer was getting trigger happy with the fader...


waaayyy too long of a vid, you start to say stuff you already said :/ for the rest nice video, love the idea of some cheaper vr competition


359$ discount?<br>I can buy a PC with that


That's a strange looking PlayStation 2 controller.


Ill wait another 10 years when VR is either widely adopted or dead.


Basically VR should be affordable plain and simple i've seen cheaper rip offs of the oculus rift that work with game consoles as well how hard is it to make side by side displays and slapping a working head tracking system with it? It's a marketing scam for people to buy there products and make it unfair to get a hold of.


I'd halt call it a budget they are all still a weeks wages or more for some


Great video. Still waiting for Destruction Darius 2 :)


half of the price without the camera's and controllers tho lmao


3:53 Child labour, hell yeah!

Come on Philip, you know that this is not necessarily a good thing

huh you responded, missed that. It was not meant serious^^

this just shows I rewatch ur vids


1:35 - That Oblivion Soundtrack though, the nostalgia xD


2kliksphilip Have a link to that sick keyboard?


If you want base stations with controllers go check out NOLO VR!


Aren't there any third party controllers that would work?

@gerdhagen No dice, uses a completely different tracking method that can't be emulated to SteamVR.

Douwert PlayStation Move controllers work with some hacking, or there's the upcoming Nolo VR which adds motion controllers and positional tracking stations.


nice text also good timing with real life clips


"I haven't vomited from anything other than alcohol since I was a child" nice one Philip


....are there really no controllers?? kind of essential


Windows actually supports using it completely without mouse and only keyboard.


how on Earth am I supposed to power 8k :/

*2K res not 4 or 8K. The Pimax 8K is actually the 4K HMD.


If you are only using the PIMAX 4K for sitting on youtube and watching 360 films. Do you need really hard-core gaming computer specs? could you just hook them up with a standard windows 7 laptop?

I have a modern comp with onboard graphics and the headset wouldnt work in pimax mode, so ended up in extended mode - which was rubbish. I brought a 4GB gtx card and now it is 'capable' but still not best suited for games, but video is perfect and I use the headset for this purpose.


If you focus on one side of the video, it will feel 3d xD


Philip, would the Pimax work with Resident Evil 7?

You can use Tridef 3D to play RE7 on Pimax 4K. Of course, it's not the same VR quality as native VR support but it works good :)

That's interesting, I didn't know that the VR aspects of the game was a timed exclusive. I was surprised by how little support was in the game by default anyways, so this makes a lot more sense. Ty for the info.


Is there any chance of you giving link and doing video about that keyboard you get yourself? ;D


What am I supposed to use for a controller?


Can you also review the deepoon e2. Yes I know the name is bad but still.


I know I'm late but guys... the HTC Vive is $499 and its the best thing ever


or you could just buy a vr phone holder for $20 and use your phone and get the same expereince


I have a vive. The pimax sounds great... except it's not roomscale, it is much more comparable to the occulus


Can you connect this too the Vive Remotes


The intro made me think that one of the four horsemen was coming for me.


typing on that keyboard looked trippy af °-°


wonderful VR but doesn't work on Star Trek Bridge Crew

Yes it does. You just can't move your head up/down side-to-side head, only look around.


WHAT ABOUT MY GLASSES???? they are fairly big. they fit in a Oculus when I tested it at a VR demo at Best buy


Chinese and EU warehouses have to same price. :O


i love your overcoat phillip it makes you mysterious and cool.


Those small videos in the city. So so funny haha


Actually check ebay people are selling them for for almost more than the Oculus.


the first part should ne on Video blocks


at 8:00 the issue you had is not your headset it is the motion you can replicate this by installing vorpx and playing any game not designed for VR in VR... the second you move you feel like your eyes are bing ripped out of your skull


Do you have an update on watching movies on this?


The video is great, but don't wear your vr outside. You have a magnifying glass on your eyes and it would just take one second looking at the sun to damage your eyes of an accident happened.


1:06 calm yourself jeremy. i respect the subtle pure pwnage callout.


This product sells only for 260 euro on Chinese website Taobao. Much cheaper than you mentioned in video.

My feel:
image quality centre: Oculus Rift>3Glasses s1>Pimax>Oculus Rift>>Pico Neo
image quality edge:HTC vive>Pimax>Pico Neo>Oculus Rift>3Glasses s1
motion pictures: HTC vive>Oculus Rift>Pimax=3Glasses s1=Pico Neo
definitely Pimax is not as good as Oculus Rift or HTC vive. but I only paid 260 euros so thats acceptable.


How could u bring it outside? Odoes it pair with phone as well?


The oculus is $400 for their summer sale right now, this thing is irrelevant.


60hz vr ??? Id better have a 120hz 1080p then 60hz 4k


If games don't work 100% the way were intended, seems completely pointless to me, complete waste of money.


Wait, you watch 2D video on a VR headset?<br>How

Wait, you watch 2D video on a VR headset?
How

You can watch any 2D movie on a 200 inch screen in a 3D 360 cinema environment. The same for 3D movies.


Just saying,(good vid btw)ps vr is 260 pounds(money).

ollgamer WMR is now $200 USD with Asus and Lenovo.


Was that a pure pwnage refference? With the micro? :p


too bad it doesn't come with motion controllers


Walking down the street with a vr headsets will get you puntang byotch! Lol.


to get discounted to 359 euro? it already is at 339 euro :p


check out NOLO for position tracking. it supports the pimax and is affordable.


Its only cheaper because they are made by 9 year old workers earning 1p for every 500 units they make


You didn't try it with racing or flight sims?


but is this good to play fps games like bf or other survival or adventure games? with mouse and keyboard ofc.?

well, ty for taking time to reply dis long, but i still wanna try vr with games like serious sam, halo,racing games, i have tryed htc vive for 5 minutes on some steam game job simulator, it was fun to throw stuff around, but i got sick bchus the pixels are too damn large , personaly i do play games at 640x480 or 800x600 but man the headset is too heavy. also, and expensive, and as a benq1 144hz monitor owner i say every vr  should have low bluelight mode bchus screen dis close to ur eyes @100% brightness will make u blind sooner.

As a Vive owner, you will not want to play fps games like that with a VR headset. VR headsets are downright amazing... as long as there isn't any artificial movement. But when you start being moved around by the game, say in the cockpit of a plane, or using a joystick to move around as you would in a fps normally; that's when thing's start to get a bit dicey. It changes from person to person, but you WILL feel some degree of nausea. Personally I couldn't handle it for more than a few minutes at a time before my head started to complain quite heavily and, very much like phil described, I had to take a breather and lay in bed for about half an hour before my head felt right again.
This is a result of our brains getting confused when faced with the differing opinions on movement between your eyes and your inner ear, one saying you are standing still and the other saying you are moving. The end result is... nausea.

The experiences we dream of in VR, at least before I got my Vive, were those of piloting planes, spaceships and the like. Intense experiences that involve a lot of artificial movement. Honestly I think these are some of the weakest examples of what VR can do, they don't push the medium to anything remotely in the vicinity of what VR can offer.
One of the most fun experiences I had with the Vive when I took it home and plugged it in was not booting up Elite: Dangerous and ogling at the gorgeous cockpit in a brand new perspective. There was nothing really new, nothing anything as revolutionary as we dream of from VR; just a different perspective. No, one of the most fun experiences I had with VR that day was booting up a simple Unreal Engine 4 template that ships with the engine, and playing with a bunch of brightly coloured boxes with motion controllers like a two year old. There's something amazing about being able to interact with these virtual objects so physically, in such an intimate fashion that is just light years beyond what games like Elite: Dangerous can offer in VR. There's nothing really new to experience there.
The future of VR is so completely and utterly different to what currently exists in the gaming industry that I don't think many people realise what they are actually buying until they put it on their eyes and explore what these early stages of the medium have to offer. Such simple experiences can become so much more fun when given just the right set of limitations. Limitations that VR can only truly offer. To date the most fun I've had with my Vive was in Tabletop Simulator, playing what was quite possibly the most intense game of 'snakes and ladders' in the history of mankind.
Games like battlefield are not in the future of VR after my experience with it. I see something immensely more interesting in VR's future. I see a world where a simple set of virtual Lego, again with the right constraints, can be infinitely more engaging and visceral than anything that we experience on a standard monitor. More immersive than anything that you can experienced on a monitor.

As a Vive owner, you will not want to play fps games like that with a VR headset. VR headsets are downright amazing... as long as there isn't any artificial movement. But when you start being moved around by the game, say in the cockpit of a plane, or using a joystick to move around as you would in a fps normally; that's when thing's start to get a bit dicey. It changes from person to person, but you *WILL* feel some degree of nausea. Personally I couldn't handle it for more than a few minutes at a time before my head started to complain quite heavily and, very much like phil described, I had to take a breather and lay in bed for about half an hour before my head felt right again.
This is a result of our brains getting confused when faced with the differing opinions on movement between your eyes and your inner ear, one saying you are standing still and the other saying you are moving. The end result is... nausea.

The experiences we dream of in VR, at least before I got my Vive, were those of piloting planes, spaceships and the like. Intense experiences that involve a lot of artificial movement. Honestly I think these are some of the weakest examples of what VR can do, they don't push the medium to anything remotely in the vicinity of what VR can offer.
One of the most fun experiences I had with the Vive when I took it home and plugged it in was not booting up Elite: Dangerous and ogling at the gorgeous cockpit in a brand new perspective. There was nothing really new, nothing anything as revolutionary as we dream of from VR; just a different perspective. No, one of the most fun experiences I had with VR that day was booting up a simple Unreal Engine 4 template that ships with the engine, and playing with a bunch of brightly coloured boxes with motion controllers like a two year old. There's something amazing about being able to interact with these virtual objects so physically, in such an intimate fashion that is just light years beyond what games like Elite: Dangerous can offer in VR. There's nothing really new to experience there.
The future of VR is so completely and utterly different to what currently exists in the gaming industry that I don't think many people realise what they are actually buying until they put it on their eyes and explore what these early stages of the medium have to offer. Such simple experiences can become so much more fun when given just the right set of limitations. Limitations that VR can only truly offer. To date the most fun I've had with my Vive was in Tabletop Simulator, playing what was quite possibly the most intense game of 'snakes and ladders' in the history of mankind.
Games like battlefield are not in the future of VR after my experience with it. I see something immensely more interesting in VR's future. I see a world where a simple set of virtual Lego, again with the right constraints, can be infinitely more engaging and visceral than anything that we experience on a standard monitor. More immersive than anything that you can experienced on a monitor.

well then vr is pretty much uselsess for the next few years or more :/

DNA iAT3aL3MoN you can only play supported be games and battle field ain't a supported game


Oculus is far superior, save up the extra $200 or buy one second hand.

no positional tracking is already a dealbreaker for me, even when just using vr while sitting. No option to easily add handtracking, the view will be blurry when looking around because 60hz and no low persistence (no oled screens) No hardware ipd adjust. And the rift has great build quality, is lighter and has good software tech that allows it so still feel very smooth even when not reaching the 90fps. And the rift probably just works with less hassle as well.

EnderTech599 Gaming  HTC is proven company. The Rift was a kick starter, not a  "proven" company.

Well, you have the option of Touch Controllers, which are literally game changing. plus you get the advantage of a well-known company, plus that one looks kinda cheap and flimsy...

I have an Oculus Rift and it's AMAZING, and I can't imagine anything better.


Have you tried just getting some silicone nose pads off ebay?


You look like FPS Russia! Love your review! Thanks


Well the occulus and vive is made in china so i dont see why not.


What still amazes me is how these people are able to offer this arguably pretty great 4k VR gear but aren't able to produce proper english on their site. If you aren't good in english, maybe hire a translater for 12 dollar per hour? The crappy english is what's most off putting of this device.


Send it to EEVblog or AvE to take it a-part! I beat inside is where the chinesium cheapnes is at.


looking right out of Cyberpunk in public like that.<br>nice.

looking right out of Cyberpunk in public like that.
nice.


VR is still only really good for Fly or Race Sims.

For the Sim Community it is like a TrackIR 3 only more immersiv.

you havent even fukin tried it .. a vive or rift

+Carrot Survivor
bullshit. novelty wears off quickly and all the minigames put together don't add up to a single decent full game's worth of playtime.
it fells like a very expensive modernized wii as it is now.

I just find it more immersiv if you play a game where your charakter cant use his legs like the player.

lol youve obviously never tried an oculus or an htc vive.. I own a vive.... and its fucking incredible and i never use it for sims like that. Onward and arizona sunshine mainly


im not the only one  who has a ps2 controller plugged in :D


I mean, whats the point of a vr headset that has no hand controllers.


I ordered a 5k Plus last march, still havent got nothing.
Pimax customers services is complet crap, they barely speak english.
I gave them loss notification from both carrier, they just don t care and I can t do shit about it.
I just have lost 1300$.
I strongly advice avoiding their products.
If anyone have the same issue, plz contact me.


Look At The Price Here In Brazil  R$1143.27


Budget? what about the hp windows mixed reality headset that comes with 2 controller and is only 250$ or 150$ refurbished.

Huy Hồ WMR was way more expensive when this video came out. And to the same effect, the new Pimax headsets are better than the Vive.


What about some controllers to play VRChat? 😂


lol. while you were outside. looking around with the headset. where did ya plug that cable to


Reviewer claims "i dont have neither oculus or vive" and continues on to give ppl honest review and comparison? This is not a VR headset. This is DK1/Phone level of gimmick. Do not buy. In the video here the reviewer walks around with it, giving a false impression like you could do that. This does not track you through the world so you are "a camera on a stick" with no freedom in VR world. You can use some gamepad or keyboard-mouse to push that "camera on a stick" around in the VR world but you have no real freedom to move inside it by yourself. Proper VR gear give you this DEFINING freedom and thats where VR starts, as your brain will then believe it. You are better off saving money to get a real thing, with controllers to interact with virtual items.

It sounds like you haven't seen this guy's videos before, given that the bits with him walking around in VR goggles and a trenchcoat is obviously just supposed to parody the "futuristic" aspect of VR. I do agree with your points though. I have a Vive myself and I could never imagine giving up the freedom of moving your head around just to have a lower price tag. It's definitely one of the most important aspects to actually feel immersed in VR, and if philip had more experience with the other headsets I'm sure he'd feel the same way. However if you actually watched the rest of the video you'd see that he did actually bring it up, describing it as a "lack of base stations" and he does point it out as being a very big downside compared to more expensive (and upcoming) headsets, along with the lack of motion controls.


Wow, I thought this video was made today LOL.


Will it work with Euro truck stimulator?

Gwillan cycleman pro gmr 117 look on the store page on steam to the right and you'll see if it is or not


To bad Its stuck on 60 hz. The other have 90 hz+

Yea, others also have only 1080×1200 per Eye.


Mind dropping a link to that keyboard? ;)

Ah. I didn't see. Thanks for the comment and hostility. :)


why only 60hz when the minimum is 90hz so you don't feel sick from motion sickness

2kliksphilip experience and research on the internet


Have now seen alot of videos where they praise this headset. Conclusion is that they all have to be sponsored. THE HEADSET IS CRAP. THE SOFTWARE IS CRAP. The product is totally useless. I have the Vive, but bought this for watching movies, because of the screendoor effect. It has less screendoor effect, but you cant move your head if you don't want the picture to be totally blurry. Don't waste your money on this crap..


whats the point if you dont have motion trackers


Everyone wants VR to take off, but how many gamers will wear that over their face FOR HOURS ON END and move around while playing?  So far it's a gimmick that kids will enjoy for a while, but that's about it. Think Wii.


Could anyone tell me the name of that chinese mechanical keyboard he mentioned in the video?


can you get motion controllers for it thougj


Oh wow I wasn’t even aware this video was 3 years old


1:34 im dying of laughter lmao
thanks for brutally murdering me with your ''kliky'' jokes hehe


OMG that micro 1:08 Pure Pwnage memes live on


The Oculus Rift is 400$-500$ in sale, it's a much better than this.


can it run the games on oculus and htc vive


My brain doesn't hide anything it only makes things worse and is why I returned a VR headset


Btw is there is no motion tracking controlers


too bad it doesnt have controllers like the vive ...


Right now it is 500 bucks I’d rather buy and oculus rift S


hey is this get blurry on the sides like deepoon? on the deepoon e2 if u are not looking the midle of the lens u see al blurry ..if this have that problem,?


The new windows mixed reality headset is the better buy well but new now but yea cheaper and here’s something cool to do if you don’t want to spend 400-1000$ for vr, find the cheapest headset that works very well, buy either the oculus or vive controllers by themselves or with the cameras of either or, or you can buy cheap psvr controllers and buy 2 ps3 cameras and done should be able to do vr cheaper

Games For Cykits Had a friend who did cheap VR with the PlayStation eye and camera stuff... You get what you pay for in that...

Honestly WMR or Oculus Quest all the way for cheap VR.

Though now Pimax makes a VR headset like the Vive that has two 4K screens at 120 FOV. So it’s hard not to be tempted to pay the extra for laser tracking, and better screens.


DoNt UsE iT OuTsiDE <br>it will damage the lenses

DoNt UsE iT OuTsiDE
it will damage the lenses


Lovin your socks to pants ratio mate! >_<


I'll say you feel sick cause your mind thinks it's poison which makes it want to throw up so not having full control and being able to anticipate and control it the same as a head can will cause these effects


1:09 All about that micro, combination of just talking casually and 9:22 made me rofl hard heh heh heh


I can see that you are using the same keyboard as I do. <b>subscribe</b>

I can see that you are using the same keyboard as I do. *subscribe*


Am i the only one who knows where he was walking with the headset


Heard 60hz and instantly got dissapointed

Why? He explained why it wasn't that bad?


I actually threw up because of one of these, all over my keyboard...


Can you play any games on this VR as if you're playing in a theatre? Not REAL VR, just theatre visual...   Does that make sense?


Get razer hydras or playstation controller thingy


the deus ex part made my eyes hurt just from watching.


augh what's with the timewarp framerate boost... looks awful


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Give me the name of that keyboard please. I really want a cheap 60% mechanical.

Edit: Found it now. Thanks for the hint.

I did. I haven't found a comment thread of what the keyboard is.


i say oculus is better but does not have good res note i have not look into oculus fully


At the beginning, are you walking toward the camera and sitting down on the bench at the same time?


What was that chinese keyboard you showed?


2:52 "Its load is spread across your entire head"


I think Nolo VR is a better and much cheaper alternative for ghetto VR than Pimax. Nolo cost $200 USD and you can even use a shitty bargain brand android phone with no sensors since all the tracking is done with Nolo's sensors.


Phillip goes to the Eddystone lighthouse


Over 300$ ?!?!  psvr is half that when you shop for a deal...

But PSVR is barely VR. 180° angle doesn't make VR. And its abysmal tracking doesn't help things.<br>Maybe they'll get it right with PSVR 2, if they ever make it.

But PSVR is barely VR. 180° angle doesn't make VR. And its abysmal tracking doesn't help things.
Maybe they'll get it right with PSVR 2, if they ever make it.


Whats the thing at 15:36 ? Sounds sweet .-.


Well, the Pimax is only without controllers, but it is not made for the same type of games. The Pimax, I would say is more for racing games, where you already have a wheel or stuff like that. But the problem is that HDMI doesnät support 60Hz at 4K. So you will basicly run it at 30Hz

What do you mean? Just headset or with controllers and stations?

Are you high? The Vive is like 630+ USD while this is like 300 USD. And this is 4K


is that the same place you film the goddamn mechanical keyboard video?<br>people there seem to be used to seeing a weird guy running around with a VR headset xd

is that the same place you film the goddamn mechanical keyboard video?
people there seem to be used to seeing a weird guy running around with a VR headset xd


I want 4k VR but am convinced this is a pile of shit


all it takes is a google cardboard and a software called trinus

The price not includes get the phone is 25$


ps2 controller and it has xbox buttons. U betrayal !


"not allow porn" yeah i'm sure you don't guys.


new comment old vid but now oculus and pimax cost the same


as soon as i saw the opening is said nice


My issue with oculas. Looking around is 360 which is great but the device has a wire which decides to sexually assault and intertwine into my gaming chair! So I'll be looking around only to get it lasooed round my fucking neck and suddenly I'm in cowboy 4D


I thought pie play was going to turn up far worse and much more pornographic results


What about 4k vr porn? We demand answers!


This video is unavailable on this device. Nice, YouTube!


Gearbest scammed for for $60 once, fuck that company, never buying shit there again


Why does it look like you're slightly tilting your head to the right in all of those clips?


ghosting is from 3d effects turn it off...


VR isn't worth more then 200-400 USD IMO. Another big problem is having a PC that can handle even rendering VR without lots of upscaling.


philip do be looking like someone from the matrix