Hey guys, Pickle Rick here reminding you to protect your hair with Keeps:  https://keeps.com/emplemon

I do see what you mean but I still love that show. I'll love it till then end. #rickandmortyforever

Yeah, thanks, make me feel even older, Mr. "I used to stay up late to watch Rick and Morty even though I would be tired at school the next day." ;_;

Why do you use pickle rick to advertise Rick and Morty when in your video you describe that episode as cheap and jumping the shark?

This kid doesn't remember the 80's and 90's, when Sci-Fi and Fantasy were one in the same, not diametrically opposed world views as he seems to think they are now.

Hey guy, me here reminding you silly goose YouTubers to PUT THE SPONSOR AT THE END

Hey guy, me here reminding you silly goose YouTubers to PUT THE SPONSOR AT THE END

Hate saying this but this is a shit take! Love your content bud but the show has always been solid and always will!

well, rick got more powerful because he LITERALLY swapped minds with one of the highest ranked ricks in the citadel of ricks. gaining all the body mods, tech, abilities, powers, and skills that that rick had. Imagine if you, a human being, traded bodies with thanos and the completed infinity gauntlet and then killed thanos in your old body. You'd be OP AF too...

tf is m.A.A.d?

Mothers against against drunk?

tf is m.A.A.d?

Mothers against against drunk?

Season 5 might be be ok, let's wait and see

Season 5 might be be ok, let's wait and see

whens the hypothesis of jerry erectile dysfunction

whens the hypothesis of jerry erectile dysfunction

Ever considered doing an episode on Venture Bro's ?, I'm late to the series, but damn does it have some if the best written characters in any animated series, hate that the show got "cancelled"

THAT EMPLEMON GUY...
HE TURNED HIMSELF INTO A PICKLE
Funniest shit ive ever seen

THAT EMPLEMON GUY...
HE TURNED HIMSELF INTO A PICKLE
Funniest shit ive ever seen

You also never covered the main issue with the show. It’s lazy. All new shows are lazy. Ten episode seasons? The Simpson’s and futurama did twice that per season. The inconsistent season releases also ruin the show. It’s not a solid state show and it’s sad.

Rick and morty is closer to adventure time than futurama. You are just young

Rick and morty is closer to adventure time than futurama. You are just young

Your channel is on an upward spiral,you sure that spiral didn't make a u-turn or something?

I like the show but I wouldn't call it a cultural phenomenon.  for me I like shows like harvey birdman , spaceghost coast to coast and athf more than rick and Morty

Oh yea btw you should be ashamed for liking the show

Oh yea btw you should be ashamed for liking the show

wait its real i was thinking it was a joke?

wait its real i was thinking it was a joke?

You're such a cool dude man. Top tier historical magician fosho. Keep training kid!

You're such a cool dude man. Top tier historical magician fosho. Keep training kid!

I tought you cut the pickle rick part from an h3h3 video

I tought you cut the pickle rick part from an h3h3 video

So this guy named EmpLemon turned himself into a pickle funniest shit I ever seen

So this guy named EmpLemon turned himself into a pickle funniest shit I ever seen

I keep my hair with estrogen, but thanks anyways!

I keep my hair with estrogen, but thanks anyways!

I can see how the show was influenced by the fandom and that was annoying but saying the show was ruined by it is completely over the top. I still love the show as much as I always have. Of course that’s just me but seriously just sit back and enjoy the show and stop over analyzing

Can you make a never ever video on ayrton senna

Can you make a never ever video on ayrton senna

happy 28th July!

oh right, it aint the US no one cares about Peru :c

only 4th July, but still, happy I guess :D

Actually, the show is trash now, season 3 was already a noticeable drop in quality but season 4 was just awful.

17:53 Bro, I was sitting there chilling to the background music and the way it just perfect synced with the Pickle Rick bit killed me.

Can you do one on how Looney Tunes  were the original dank memes?

Can you do one on how Looney Tunes  were the original dank memes?

season 4 became cynical but honestly it's a smart idea to figure out who really liked the show for what the animators, and writers WANTED to do not what the fans wanted

Hey emp not sure if you’re ever going to see this or if you listen to suggestions but  how about there will never ever be a game like minecraft this isnt a meme minecraft has been a special thing to me and many other people I remember being ten staying up till 3:am in the blue light of my tv listening to its amazing soundtrack

I just finished the first Dune book and it was incredible and I'm beyond hyped for the movie this year! With Avengers being finished and Star Wars in a burning dumpster (to my great agony) Dune's movie has the potential to enable a resurgence in popularity for one of, if not the most influential, Sci Fi books known to man and see the rise of a new cinematic dynasty!

Could make for an interesting video 🙏🙏

In all seriousness, you've done an amazing job on this video, a lot of your points are valet and I feel like I'm on the same boat as you. I will continue to love Rick and Morty for being just another cartoon to entertain and make me feel happy. Thank you for expressing your personal thoughts on the show, I'm still supporting you after seven years of watching your content, keep up the good work!

And don't worry, I remembered to unsubscribe.

@James Peterson Sam Hyde on the Joe Biden campaign trail in the dark and 3rd of July of the doub era in Chainlink

What witchcraft is this I just got a separate ad for that before the video started

What witchcraft is this I just got a separate ad for that before the video started

@Gary Oak sam Hyde on the million Dollar Extreme world Peace deal with adult Swim and the government sized it for the Joker movie and get worried when people start killing journalists that's a quote

@DJKori true you should watch MDE World Peace

@DJKori true you should watch MDE World Peace

I feel like we're in to different universes because like I never really heard anything about how people started hating Rick and Morty as a show and like mass amounts of people not wanting to talk about the show. It's weird like of course they have a few bad episode like most shows (or honestly the worst they can get is "Meh"). And any and all type of fandoms have a toxic side to them no matter how decent that fandom may be. (I mean of course we're going to see more negative things than positive things.)
Was it really that big of a deal though? I never really felt like it was that big of a deal.

Or maybe I've only been in the good side of the fandom somehow for most to all of the length of it. Lol... I guess it's just a matter of perspective and that's one of the partial reasons why I could disagree with this video. A decent video overall though

Where did you find that Pickle Rick costume?

Where did you find that Pickle Rick costume?

hey emp i wish you could make a video about the unabomber what you think about his crimes and his philosophies

So you could say "There will never ever be another show like Rick & Morty?"

So you could say "There will never ever be another show like Rick & Morty?"

Sorry to say emplemon but I have great hair and so does my mothers father

Sorry to say emplemon but I have great hair and so does my mothers father

was gonna say, people are more miserable now is because we record it and people feel more comfortable expressing it in this day and age id say

I didn't even realize that was a real ad till I saw that link was real.

I didn't even realize that was a real ad till I saw that link was real.

started balding this year lmao, at 18. this shit better work emp

started balding this year lmao, at 18. this shit better work emp

Emp, why are you selling me hair loss medicine im 15

Emp, why are you selling me hair loss medicine im 15

There will never ever be another president like Franklin Roosevelt.<br>Credit to Grant Scarboco for the idea

There will never ever be another president like Franklin Roosevelt.
Credit to Grant Scarboco for the idea

If I had to applaud one of your critics of season 3, as the best one you made, it would debunking the whole "Season 3 is dark, guyz" meme, which I have seen far too often, used as a defence. It just seems like a talking point everyone accepted, and repeats without thinking about it. Its like children who are asked to descrive god just use the same words which they have been told. Its rather scary, is a weird way that mostly rational adults could all fall for something which is basically brain washing.

@ButterLordIII thanks lol but now it doesn't matter because I've watched everything now

@ButterLordIII thanks lol but now it doesn't matter because I've watched everything now

Did not even notice its an actual sponsor until the link xD

Did not even notice its an actual sponsor until the link xD

Thank you for your service to the Internet.

Thank you for your service to the Internet.

Brah, getting Geowizard's music out there.  Awesome!

Brah, getting Geowizard's music out there.  Awesome!

Seems like more of a simple rick product

Seems like more of a simple rick product

Why did you spell Accountability "Account Ability"? It really messes with me

Why did you spell Accountability "Account Ability"? It really messes with me

I wish the show was more social seems mean spirited to me.

I wish the show was more social seems mean spirited to me.

that ad read was <b>the funniest shit ever</b>

that ad read was *the funniest shit ever*

That sponsorship segment blindsided me dude. Great analysis but damn, I can't get over how well you put it the ad in there. Never go into marketing you'll ruin a generation of kids into commercialism.

The Music used 25:31? What it is? It reminds me too much "Laying Silks and Satins on My Heart" by Sanulim

@Liravin there's no spoilers for season 4 just how if feels tonally compared to the earlier seasons but nothing besides that

Between you and me (and anyone else who reads this comment) i thought the 2nd half of season 4 was insanely funny and really tightly written, I feel that it was sort of meditation for dan harmon and it really showed, I'm extremely interested and eager to see where rick and morty can go from here, loved the video and keep up the great work!

BURRRP Ha-hair is meaningless Morty, th-there's millions of hairs on your head, Morty, in the grand scheme of things I think BELCH I think fingernails should be considered more important, you only get 10 of those, Morty.

*BURRRP* Ha-hair is meaningless Morty, th-there's millions of hairs on your head, Morty, in the grand scheme of things I think *BELCH* I think fingernails should be considered more important, you only get 10 of those, Morty.

@The Shuckmeister hi channel thats a jojo reference

@The Shuckmeister hi channel thats a jojo reference

EmpLemon thanks pickle rick. Your my favorite meme.

EmpLemon thanks pickle rick. Your my favorite meme.

Emp please do a video on the history behind YouTube Poops. You would be the perfect guy for the job given your knowledge of it


A friend of mine said he dosen't like the new episodes because Rick burps less.<br>So thats an opinion I guess.

A friend of mine said he dosen't like the new episodes because Rick burps less.
So thats an opinion I guess.

Your friend is very smart. We should all decide our opinions like that.

@OtakuUnitedStudio well if memory serves, some were improvised, but the writers did also sometimes write in lines where they wanted roiland to burp, so hed have to do the so called "burp takes" till he got the line right.

@Tahseen Khan Apparently those were often improvised, a side effect of drinking in the recording booth. So you're probably right, he's most likely not drinking while recording as often.

"You have to have a high IQ to understand the humor in Rick and Morty."<br>"Hahaha, funny science man go brrrp"

"You have to have a high IQ to understand the humor in Rick and Morty."
"Hahaha, funny science man go brrrp"

Real talk, it's probably because doing a ton of burp takes was probably hell on roiland, the process for that kind of thing is pretty ridiculous. Maybe hes on a bit less of an alcholic streak and didnt want to do as many

Understandable op’s friend, have a very nice day!

I kinda thought it was because he was living with his family

YEAH DUDE, I actually miss that so much, it was hilarious

I mean this Rick is pretty horrible. Season 5 looks promising for now, not really liking Morty though.

I love the line “So that’s an opinion I guess”

probably happend bc of the whole "smartest man in the universe" shit. like the show creators saw how much the fandom idolized rick and so they played into that by making him the smartest man in the universe because that's easier to idolize. and it's just harder to put someone on a pedastal and use as a front for the brand when they are a drunk that burps all the time. more people would find it repulsive and it would therefor be harder to use rick to attract new fans.

in the earlier seasons rick was a flawed character and it was pretty clear you weren't supposed to like him. that's why people sympathized with him but nobody truly thought he was "perfect" or a good person. but then something in the fandom clicked and people started to see rick as some sort god instead of the alcoholic old man who left his daughter, is a dick to his family but kinda knows how to do sci-fi shit. now it's like the fandom willingly chooses to ignore that and the show is playing into it.
kinda frustrating tbh

probably happend bc of the whole "smartest man in the universe" shit. like the show creators saw how much the fandom idolized rick and so they played into that by making him the smartest man in the universe because that's easier to idolize. and it's just harder to put someone on a pedastal and use as a front for the brand when they are a drunk that burps all the time. more people would find it repulsive and it would therefor be harder to use rick to attract new fans.

in the earlier seasons rick was a flawed character and it was pretty clear you weren't *supposed* to like him. that's why people sympathized with him but nobody truly thought he was "perfect" or a good person. but then something in the fandom clicked and people started to see rick as some sort god instead of the alcoholic old man who left his daughter, is a dick to his family but kinda knows how to do sci-fi shit. now it's like the fandom willingly chooses to ignore that and the show is playing into it.
kinda frustrating tbh

Those burps in season 1 never failed to make me laugh

I mean justin roiland was probably gonna get a throat problem, but maybe that's just me

It's a telling reminder that the character is different than he was before. He was always incredibly smart but was handicapped by aimlessness and drunkness brought on by severe depression. All of a sudden, that changes instantly and he becomes superman. Had it happened more gradually with the audiance being shown him using his intellect more pointedly and the reasons for it, much of Emps critic would be null

Yeah I noticed that too, I really liked Pilot Rick's crazy scientist drunk gandpa vibe. Not really into his season 3 cool redditor god dude attitude

On rewatching s1e1 it always annoyed me how he burped every 5 secs

That is an opinion that exists.

What a time to be alive.

sorry to say but youre friend are have the rong opinion

True though, I wish he acted the way he did in the pilot

@Adam Senzai don't forget his catchphrase of season one, birdman said "i'm suffeing etc etc" so i guess Rick is getting better?

Oh, ok, let me go not exist for a minute, I need it now......

It’s because the VA can’t burp as much as before

@ignaeon the stuttering really annoyed me, it was too exaggerated

The reason he stopped burping cus the voice over used air blown into is stomach to cus the real burls but after a while he found it to disgusting so he stopped just noticed some one already said the reason so nm

They removed it because drinking so much alcohol was really bad for Rick's actor

@Revoltz22 You must have a really high IQ

@Revoltz22 You must have a really high IQ

please refer your friend to total drama series

The burps were switched out with more smart I know everything rants obviously

Made me appreciate the show that much more tbh. The burps and stutters struck me as a lazy attempt to pad the episode's run time.

@The New I agree. It made the character more interesting.

While that doesn't ruin the show for me by any stretch, I did notice that his drunkenness got really toned down after the first season or so. I do think it added to his character and the comedy a bit.

I also noticed it! And on the line of the video, I think it has to do with the constant grandiose 'smartest man in the universe' moments, in detriment of the more down to earth weird grandpa moments of the first seasons


The therapist scene might be heavy-handed but i feel like it was dan harmon getting sick of the fans who worshipped rick and didn't get the point. And then fans attached themselves to the fucking pickle.

@Citizen B lets be honest, they're mostly saying that as pretty average people. this man was literally designed to be unbearable, seeing him get better was probably some of the best you could do with him

It's all fun and games to worship a fictional nutter like Rick, so long as you get it into your head that if he existed in real life, you reallly, REALLY, shouldn't want to like him.

was a bit of an ode to sopranos i thought as well, i never thought that came off too corny and it was the whole show!

They get sick of the fans a lot since in every other episode they piss on the audience about some "going back to simple adventures sucks"


Nice to see that they acknowledged the whole "rick using body modifications without any explanation" in Season 5 where Rick outright mentions he'll deus ex machina the fight then gets stripped of all his weapons and body modifications and becomes defensless again.

@Mikeureko Never explained, but he was part of a SEAL team for the Citadel, and one of then had a cybernetic eye that was a different color.

@AstroZ The real question is, why did the Rick he end up in have so many mods?

@Valokiloren Yeah, I feel like in many reviews and discussions, about Rick's cybernetic enhancements, people keep forgetting he switched bodies, multiple times.

Yeah, Rick gets heavily nerfed this season (which is a good thing)

@TophatGeo with like 50+ episodes left in the show I wouldn’t be surprised if they improve Rick in that time

@Sin With Us Hate to be this guy, but Rick has those body modifications because it's not his original body after the events of the premier to Season 3. Him choosing to keep reintroducing them into his body is weird, but eh, people came to expect it because they seemed pretty cool in the first few occasions he used them. We didn't question the vaguely godlike abilities of his mind, his flying space-car or his portal gun in seasons 1 and 2, so I dunno why you guys got so torn apart by the body mods.

Sure, things got blown way out proportion, but eh, that's a toxic fanbase for you, and because everything has to 150% for toxic fanbases, it meant repeating the same mindless crap over and over until it embarassed us all to the point where it isn't "cool" to like the thing anymore, and only nerds who actually like the subject matter stay on board. It's the same with everything, the internet just made the end results more prevalent and the lifespan of events far shorter - see any and all sports team fanbases anywhere in the world.

Sure it ways nice but I can only thinkg of so many excuses Rick wont use his script powers in the future, my guess is that writers will just try to gradually forget about it, just like rick came up with these body augmentations out of nowhere aswell lol.

Rick definitely still has that aspect of being a near unkillable god so I hope that becomes less of a prominent feature of his character over time. Pointing out that the body modifications were a dumb idea is the first step to improving it


Season 5 just aired in the uk and I can’t lie it’s been one of the best episodes for me in a while

@Sin With Us my interpretation of Morty and Plantina's relationship coming to an end is, in fact, very much in character. Throughout the show we saw Morty being coerced into violence by Rick, killing so many sentient creatures that he would probably be the second most wanted criminal in the galaxy. Planetina, the nice environmentalist superhero was the antithesis to Rick in Morty's eyes, someone that possesses superior power and uses them for good, directly going against Rick's nihilistic self destructive mentality. Morty got so upset when she used arbitrary violence to justify her means because that's something he was running from, something he didn't need anymore, something he tried to leave behind. That's why he snapped when that illusion shattered, just like how your illusions of a person tend to do when a relationship goes sour.

@Adarfrmnn Your best bet is to watch reaction compilations on Youtube.

@Adarfrmnn Your best bet is to watch reaction compilations on Youtube.

First episode was fire and then it sucks unfortunately. Though I did like episode 3. Last episode was lukewarm. Episode 8 was something that should have been good, but to me, wasn’t.

I disagree. All the episodes from season 5 range from terrible to downright mediocre.

@Adarfrmnn yo ho yo ho, a pirates life for me!

@Adarfrmnn yo ho yo ho, a pirates life for me!

@Curtis Warren it's didn't all air at once.

@Curtis Warren it's didn't all air at once.

Shame that with such a promising premiere it ended up being by far the shittest season yet. Completely aimless and unmemorable, extremely strange and borderline fetishist concepts, characters acting far too out of character, certain characters being completely pointless, Rick being ridiculously nerfed, among many more. I'd take the worst of 3 or 4 over most of 5 any day. If season 6 which will probably premiere at the end of this year or early 2022 is just as bad, the show is dead and is relegated to modern Family Guy levels of irrelevance.

I think the team watched this video and took it to heart. Season 5 is the best one since Season 2.

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@Ein they first mentioned it in the fist in ‘rick-counters with the Rick kind’ when one of the council members said “out of all the ricks in the central finite curve your the malcontent, the rouge” so actually it’s been a thing since season 1

20:25 OH MY GOD i just noticed something.

looking back at this, after the season 5 finale... it could be possible that we now have a rough date for when rick created the central finite curve.

"somewhere along the way, rick transformed from the flawed scientist into the smartest man in the universe"

"the show only starts calling rick this in season 3"

i wonder if the creators had the curve in mind even back then.

also, they confirmed that the "made up backstory" rick "only used to escape prison" was actually real.

either its a big coincidence, they watched this video - or its just genius.

@Anomalous morty getting a girlfriend  isn't growth and she's a pretty boring character anyway

Season 5 has the best and the worst episodes, which is fun)

Season 5 has the best and the worst episodes, which is fun)

@Trace McSorley well I’ve got news for you

@Trace McSorley well I’ve got news for you

season 5 is garbage, there's hardly a memorable moment

season 5 is garbage, there's hardly a memorable moment

And then it immediately went downhill back to it's S4 overly self-aware bad writing

I disagree the episodes have very fast pacing and feels aimless.

I disagree the episodes have very fast pacing and feels aimless.

@Leone Maledetto I know it is the worst season

@Leone Maledetto I know it is the worst season

Lucky you, it hasnt aired and isnt going to air until late november in Switzerland

Man, season five is amazing! Better than 3 and 4, or maybe that's because I watched both of those at least 20 times each😂

Add s5e8 to your hype list if you havent seen it yet it ranks among the top rnm episodes and singlehandedly made me mad excited for the hr long finale

and then rickdependance spray attacked , god that was one of the worst rick and morty episodes

@Nick Burton Holy shit you're not kidding, that episode was awesome easily the best in this season so far

Update episode 8 is amazing with so much story and we are on hiatus until September

Seeing all the replies, I was so scared this was a fight, and was pleasantly surprised.

An then the atrocious episode 4 happened...

An then the atrocious episode 4 happened...

what? for me, season 5 is a convoluted mess of action sequences and randomly injecting some hardcore wikipedia knowledge, resulting in no meaning.

@Matt 4 nah show's definitely going downhill. episode 4-7 have been very mid

@Matt 4 nah show's definitely going downhill. episode 4-7 have been very mid

It's a nice season so far, if you take Emp's points into account. The only thing missing is accountability, a ton of stuff happens that goes unpunished or it gets resolved within the episode

@ultimata was up my guy yeh it will probably be in there after all the episodes air

I hope it will be on netflix soon. And nice profile pic ;)

I hope it will be on netflix soon. And nice profile pic ;)

I can agree with that, I feel like rick and morty was never bad, seasons 1-2 were great, season 3-4 were ok-meh, season 5 seems to be going back to Great Level

Episode 4 is probably the worst one in the entire series for me, but the other 3 were alright. Not sure what to expect going forward.

@Adarfrmnn you can watch in on flixtor! Its a really good website

@Adarfrmnn you can watch in on flixtor! Its a really good website

@ItzNotCaleb That's too wild to say im sorry, Morty killed alot of people on that episode alone but when her gf does it it disgusts him, riiiight.*
You could argue morty killed in self-defense but I mean come on, maybe only on THIS episode but morty has killed or done worse to so many sentient beings beyond humans I think Its safe to say he's only second because of rick. Not only that but he has seen far far worse being perpetrated right in front of his eyes.

When Planetina or whatever started killing those man Im not saying its unnatural morty had a negative response, but I really thought it would be more of a DONWARD SPIRAL from there, but nope! just one little massacre made in the name of a cause and to rude people (they have commited genociede for literally nothing lol) and that BREAKS morty, It really makes him question wether he loves her or not, not whether its convinient to be with her just waiting for an accident to happen, which would make much more sense.

I could go on and on but it really seemed like they just wanted Beth back in a family role rather than out in the open as she was left, but it was such flawed and out of tone attempt that it really messes up the episode for me, I really liked the other ones tho and even the b-plot was kinda good, Which even some writers think sucks, I mean this whole paragraph is mostly based on the "how it was made" of the episode, If you havent seen it go watch it, It's always interesting to see what the guys who made it think of something you like.

the premiere definitely reinstilled loads of confidence in the show's future and the other two are proving the season to be very good.

yeah season 5 has been really solid so far. and s5e2 is a 10/10, incredible episode

Yeah episode 3 just recently aired and it might be the best episode ever made

@Adarfrmnn it's on YouTube from the official adult swim account

@Adarfrmnn it's on YouTube from the official adult swim account

Episode one made Rick vulnerable again. He was taken by the police, THE POLICE

it was a good episode until jessica went crazy it's getting so tiring, nothing changes, morty can't get a girlfriend because the characters can't change and man am i not looking foward to the next time where something important happens and in the last second the showrunners go 'ha isn't it funny that this thing that could change the status quo actually went wrong? anyway see you next week for the same punchline with a diferent setup'

It was good, especialy since it put rick in a position he couldn't escape with science, by taking away his gadgeds. He couldn't just deus ex machina the whole plot by being there. I mean, the dude got arrested, by normal police men. Not an evil god, not by an evil version of him, but by normal police men.

@JadeSpecter2260 mr nimbus has really big balls

@JadeSpecter2260 mr nimbus has really big balls

dude, it was fantastic. one of my favorites

dude, it was fantastic. one of my favorites

@Duck yeah I was smooth rain for a sec there lol

@Duck yeah I was smooth rain for a sec there lol

@Adarfrmnn They uploaded the first episode for free on their YouTube channel.

@Adarfrmnn no clue man I’m just watching it on the Chanel they air it in in the uk

Do you know where I can watch the episode for free? For some reason it won't let me log into adult swim


I agree that Rick's drastically changed characterization took a turn for the worst in seasons 3 and 4. After watching season 5's lore filled episodes tho, What if it was all planned?(this is just a theory lol) All of those episodes that personified Rick as this godlike entity could've been used as a dramatic setup for season 5's end result; to further explain the central finite curve. Now that we know Rick isn't the strongest man in the universe and is the most vulnerable he's ever been, this sets up the show for more creative writing opportunities. Rick is now put in a situation where he can't runaway from his own problems. It lets us know that Rick's weaknesses never went away, they've just been lurking beyond the central finite curve. I'd like to think that this was the writers' true intentions all along. Could just be wishfull thinking. Regardless, Rick and Morty seems to be at it's peek again. Can't wait to see what they do with Season 6.

yeah im just done with the show its really on a downward spiral and will keep on getting worse and worse

@Mikeureko Most of season 4's episodes didn't do it for me.

@Baccarah Especially Morty. It seems like Rick and Morty are reversing their roles. Like just look at the fake breakup episode. Morty was the one crying, breaking, and trying to get Rick back instead of Rick himself.

@Aleta Nook I agree about the peak. But I really liked the Vat of Acid episode, and the story train one is pretty good too.

It also seems like from season 3 onwards the characters have been switched out. Yea, they develop but compare the S1 family to the S5 family.

Its like they are different people.

Season 5 was horrible. Definitely was the lowest for the series and not the peak. Peak was season 2.

Idk I don’t think they had it planned the whole time if you look at the behind the scenes of the finale posted on adult swim YouTube channel they said they had to rewatch all the old episodes to plan the finale

Oh damn i'm not the only one thinking they had it planned. just gonna copypaste the comment i just wrote here
"20:25 OH MY GOD i just realized something.

looking back at this, after the season 5 finale... it could be possible that around that time, rick created the central finite curve, and they had it all planned.

"somewhere along the way, rick transformed from the flawed scientist into the smartest man in the universe"

"the show only starts calling rick this in season 3"

i wonder if the creators had the curve in mind back then. if so, that redeems the weird writing back then for me.

also, they confirmed that the "made up backstory" rick "only used to escape prison" was actually real.

either its a big coincidence, they watched this video - or its just genius."


It speaks volumes when 90% of a fandom says they “identify” with a character that’s nihilistic, self-aggrandizing, self-centered, self-destructive, alcoholic, morally corrupt, selfish, apathetic, and just downright more toxic than venus’s atmosphere...

Since no one else commented it I guess I have to be the grammar nazi.
Venus'*
There is no need for the extra "s".

@Kos 291 Jerry became a badass in the Universe where Rick took off.

@Kos 291 Jerry became a badass in the Universe where Rick took off.

Rick is a catch all, I reckon. <br>Fans focus on the bits they like and ignore the bits they don't

Rick is a catch all, I reckon.
Fans focus on the bits they like and ignore the bits they don't

It's what's going to spawn a generation of kids who are underachievering as a result and usally that mindset to identify with will result in substance abuse. This show does not capture the horrors of being an alcoholic, it's romanticized in the show which is often how nihilism views substance abuse. Since the belief is the world is messed up so what's the point will result in being a young adult who's not improving their life and making it far worse, often destroying their bodies which will make it harder to become sober after realizing the destruction you caused.....

Please don't look at life like this guys. You need a balanced life! Good comment, for an amazing video!!

I think people relate to the fact that he is confused about the knowledge he has, he is in a massive existential crisis, Rick is a relatable character when going through your own existential crisis

Exactly. Creators themselves have said Rick is not an idol. They’re only Rick on the internet. They’re Jerry’s in denial. And ironically, Jerry is about the only one closer to a role model on there. He’s just a normal guy wanting to live a normal life

@Meister Proper It's called having an opinion. Maybe don't respond if you don't like them that much.

hey dont diss venus like that i know a guy who lives there

hey dont diss venus like that i know a guy who lives there

@Meister Proper spreading the word to save others from watching it. Tbh I don't know how anyone can watch a show written by a guy who has sex with toy babies.

@Horpus Corpus i don’t think it was the fandom they were trying to protect but rather the show. I am sure you are just trolling anyhow but I don’t get how people can be so negative over something so subjective, even the people you initially replied to lol.

@neel reddy Did you mean "doesn't explain or even excuse his choices."?

@neel reddy Did you mean "doesn't explain or even excuse his choices."?

I identify more with Morty Honeslty. I haven’t watched too terribly much of the show, but what I’ve seen I relate more to him.

They dont have to identify with all of ricks flaws.

They dont have to identify with all of ricks flaws.

I enjoy the show quite a bit, I’m not going to conventions or buying merch, but i enjoy the absurdism and anti-humor.

I like all the characters except for Jerry, because I can relate to Jerry.   I don’t enjoy looking at a reflection of my own mediocrity.    I often see myself as petty, cowardly, sycophantic, and frequently don’t feel in control of my own life.  But anyone who’s worked as an adult has some Jerry in them.   Everyone has felt imposter syndrome, everyone has felt lazy, dumb, and petty.   I think that’s part of what makes Rick and Morty a good show, at least the early seasons.

@Idgaf Dude Gatekeeping fictional characters lol,so the character ia made to this,but you say i can't identify with a.fictional guy ? Lol

i think most of those people say they do to say "Im smart like cartoon guy", ignoring the bad parts of rick in favor of being big brain

Nonya Biizwacs Moral Orel was amazing, it was way better written than Rick and Morty. Btw Clay is a great character but he’s a terrible person who you shouldn’t identify with

Sacha Daenens the only difference between a Rick and a Jerry is confidence & competence. Aside from that, they’re basically the same, which probably explains why Rick hates Jerry so damn much.

@Kos 291 my sister is literally Beth except the higschool pregnecy and she thinks she is Rick but her character doesnt add up

Jey Tee <br>Classic “everyone’s an idiot except for me” mentality.

Jey Tee
Classic “everyone’s an idiot except for me” mentality.

@Rodrigo People have trouble understanding that a vocal minority isnt actually representative of the overall group. Kinda the main issue with human beings, we have a tendency to categorize people based on a couple of interests/traits/features we learn about them, then draw conclusions about the other 99% of their personality from our views of the group we categorized them into.

Evolutionarily speaking that shit works, a hyena is pretty much always going to be a real bastard to run into, the last time I ate that berry I shat myself for 2 days, might be a good idea to not eat that berry again. We just have trouble with nuance and not knowing stuff, so our brains happily pretend to know stuff about people instead so we feel better.

Reminds me of the people who think a certain character in Persona 4 "had a point". Lol.

Reminds me of the people who think a certain character in Persona 4 "had a point". Lol.

Just like GTA5 Character Theory: "Anyone who says they're a Trevor are actually a Lazlow."

Just like GTA5 Character Theory: "Anyone who says they're a Trevor are actually a Lazlow."

It also speaks volumes when people assume that 90% of the fandom identify with Rick, that’s just stupid.

rick is the only character i know that is like me, i am also a selfish emotionally-apathetic nihilist with no morality.<br>the difference is i am not a genius and also would not have a family (dont want one) and would have upgraded myself endlessly to become a super AI to figure out how to delete all of reality or stop existing.

rick is the only character i know that is like me, i am also a selfish emotionally-apathetic nihilist with no morality.
the difference is i am not a genius and also would not have a family (dont want one) and would have upgraded myself endlessly to become a super AI to figure out how to delete all of reality or stop existing.

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@Nonya Biizwacs and again, they are not life lessons. That's like saying the fact a character doesn't like ice cream is a life lesson for being able to not like things. These are character traits and story elements that people can understand with basic reading comprehension.

@Nonya Biizwacs Just insulting me because you're proven wrong doesn't count.

@Nonya Biizwacs Just insulting me because you're proven wrong doesn't count.

@Nonya Biizwacs Being homeless didn't factor into anything at all either. This is a YouTube comment section argument. If I'm wrong, prove it. Make a valid argument against what I said. I don't have to agree it just has to be valid.

@Nonya Biizwacs This isn't big brain language. These are words you learn in the seventh grade. Not my fault you were homeless either. You're just trying to insult my character now since you can't argue against my point. Read a book.

@Nonya Biizwacs Again, learn some reading comprehension. You can't sum up someone just because they find FICTIONAL CHARACTERS relateable.

@Nonya Biizwacs You're just strawmanning now. When did I say that they were teaching something or that people need them to grow up? I simply defended people saying they could empathise and find characters relatable. I said they gave relatable traits and circumstances. Again, Bojack horseman with growing up when you feel it sucks and it won't get better. Rick with feeling like you can't be tested to the best of your abilities and you just tune out the "mediocrity" you perceive. It's why heaps of smart kids fail at school or just burn out. Walter White is a great example of feeling you wasted your life and want to live in fantasy land. He had an opportunity to solve his cancer in like the fifth episode but didn't take it. Not because if pride but because he wanted to be a drug lord.

@Nonya Biizwacs Or neither. You can be a productive, non-toxic person without necesarily having a family.

Some people may just relate to how flawed he is rather than to how he is an incomparable genius, how simply being 'smart' doesn't explain or even explain his choices, and even how Rick's hatred to materialism and human tendencies provides just that; a very material and human ego. It provides a very flawed, and in essence, human character, albeit very highly exaggerated.

They mean he has relatable and sympathetic traits. Look at Bojack, Walter White, The Grinch.

They mean he has relatable and sympathetic traits. Look at Bojack, Walter White, The Grinch.

I identify most with Jerry. When I first saw the show I thought he was supposed to be the most reasonable one. (Even though he has flaws)

Yeah. He's fucking human, and not trying to play holier-than-thou on the Internet...

Yeah. He's fucking human, and not trying to play holier-than-thou on the Internet...

@Sacha Daenens THANK YOU! People love identifying themselves with "cool", edgy, villainous characters regardless of how antithetical they are to them irl. People like Rick because they want to be (or in more deluded cases, think they already are) like Rick. What they fail to realize is just being miserable and having no morals doesn't make you intelligent, or cool. And that no matter how intelligent they may (or may not) actually be, they will never be 1/1000th as smart or innovative as Rick, and thus never actually experience any of the insane adventures that Rick has (obviously). And because of that, they don't actually have the same basis or justification for their nihlistic worldview. They're just emulating him like sheep.

@Anime Reviews With Trip what are you even doing here if you hate the show so much?

@Anime Reviews With Trip what are you even doing here if you hate the show so much?

EmpLemon's wrong on this one. Rick and Morty is pretty bad. Its 'comedy' is terribly pretentious with Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland self inserting their weird fetishes.

@Idgaf Dude It's baffling how many people think Tony Montana or Tony Soprano were the good guys.

@Idgaf Dude It's baffling how many people think Tony Montana or Tony Soprano were the good guys.

@Kos 291 "And the funny thing is, those fans are more like Jerry irl." and yet if you actually agree with most of ricks themes you still couldn't convince anyone and hear exactly this line as response

the same can be said for Walter White, Patrick Bateman, Joker, Tyler Durden, Jordan Belfort and literally every mobster from every mafia movie/TV show

Yet I unironically think that THAT'S where the show gets its charm: the storytelling and thought processes of the characters themselves.

@Nonya Biizwacs glad somebody still remembers moral oral

@Nonya Biizwacs glad somebody still remembers moral oral

And the funny thing is, those fans are more like Jerry irl. They saw Rick and fantasize about being that brash against society and get away with it.


People expect way too much from this show. Just watch it if you want, and enjoy it. If you don't, hey that's cool too. Don't. Who cares. In the end, we can ALL agree that the fandom is cancer. Maybe if we all ignore it hard enough, it'll go away someday.

The first episode of season 5 is free on youtube. It was really entertaining to watch, imo. I'm excited for the rest of season 5, and whatever else is to come.

I wouldn't recommend ignoring cancer and hoping it will just go away someday.

My attitude when it comes to shows, music and other media I enjoy (to paraphrase one of the best taglines I’ve ever heard):

“If these things aren’t your favorite, that’s great. It’s just my silly personal opinion, and I’m biased so take this with a pinch of salt.”

@Lopiklop you are putting to much faith that adults won't act like kids.

Well you have to realize that a lot of them are kids. Actual children. The show may be for adults, but I can guarantee that a majority of the viewers are kids. Adult Swim is on Cartoon Network. It is like "aspirational programming" makes kids feel like they are mature. I watched family guy and adult swim as a kid


I just hate how when ever I google “Portal Gun” I get the Rick and Morty one, and not the Portal one I’m actually looking for.

just exclude pages that contain rick and morty

I just did and the vast majority was of the Portal gun from portal, like 1 in 5 is from R&M

You're trippin. I looked it up and portal was first and Rick and Morty was second

Agreed it is sad that it parodies so many great things and then makes these gross fake fans who have nor fun laughing at people who enjoy the real thing over their lame trendy pandering show

thats weird. when i googled it the vast majority of results were the portal version.

@Sir Perry I suppose they are still both called portal guns.

Try searching Portal Gun Portal instead. Might work.

@Sir Perry it doesn't matter what you think it should be. Rick calls it a portal gun so that's what people will search for when looking for it.

i mean they do have the same name and rick and north is a bit more popular and modern.

I checked for me i find about 60 40 ballence in the portal gun from well portal's favor


I already saw this "dysfunctional family" part of the show when I started watching it for a while, I pretty much like and appreciate everything about the show from the silly jokes to the cleverly thought out concepts. I'm a fan of the show itself although I'm not a part of the fandom, I just enjoy the show as is and separate the fandom from it as to not ruin my personal experience.

the "disfuncional family" lives in a cronenberg-moster world \o/


MY GOD, I wish Gravity Falls was made for adult swim

@modernmalls gravity falls ended after 2 seasons on Alex Hirsch's decision. Disney wanted him to make more, but he refused. I don't think it being on Adult Swim would change how the ending and episode amount was done

Adventure Time was on adult swim for a while too. I wish it stayed there

It would have fit better on Fox in my opinion

@Birdo it’s almost as if they are expressing their beliefs through art…

eh i kinda disagree, partially because i wouldn’t have found it as a kid, but also i think it could’ve been another situation like this one where a show overstays its welcome. it’s perfect the way it is.

@Fallen Phoenix yup, a part of me is kinda wishing a more mature reboot of SU lol

@Fallen Phoenix that's kind of the problem with writers, artists, illustrators and animators in general these days. Sometimes it seems to me that 60% of then let politics come before their art. It's really sad because this happens to so many amazingly creative people. I think SU  is just a consequence of this problem in art.

Tbh I thought that for Steven universe too

Such a unique cool concept ruined by all the social issues they kept trying to bring up and it being made for kids

Sometimes i think its best for some shows to not end up on adult networks (since they could potentially end up like FG and AD) however GF definitely is a exception because a lot of good potential was held back because of disney


Remember everybody: Nobody likes nihilism. Not even Nietzsche liked nihilism, and he wrote the book on it. In fact, he said humanity should and must find a way to rise above it and find the things in your life worth believing in. Take his advice, don't be a Rick.

@валенок I don't think we need to go that far quite yet. <br>Even if we did, I don't think neutrino bombs are ready. We'll have to delay that plan until they're done. /j

@валенок I don't think we need to go that far quite yet.
Even if we did, I don't think neutrino bombs are ready. We'll have to delay that plan until they're done. /j

@Z1LL4 JR So you're gonna immediately turn to mockery and insults to try proving a point, but insist that other people are acting like children? Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

@Z1LL4 JR when did i say that it was the worlds fault? the world just is what it is... but i see you are a person of high intellect the way you approach this subject.

if i didn't add anything to the discussion, you actually subtracted something from it.

thank you for your meaningful input, anything else you wanna share? ^^

@YourPalHDee maybe i'm too rational for "in the pursuit we find purpose."... is this the same kind of thinking like "it's about the journey"?

and no, suicide and keep trying are not the only options, the third one is just accepting it. i only have at most 3000 weeks (about 60 years) and then this is finally over, there is no need for suicide or keep trying.

maybe i can at some point live life like other people, no matter how irrational and unimportant it is.

@Chris aka Schulbus humanity still existing is the proof. I dunno what you mean by "one of those guys" I'm just telling you my opinion it hope to help. I can tell you from my own experiences of depression and hopelessness, the ONLY alternative to suicide is to keep trying.  There's no other options and suicide is utterly pointless. If religions are to be believed then suicide is a sin and you will go to hell, if you don't believe in an afterlife, then you are cutting short your single opportunity of existing as conscious life for eternity of non-existence. Life is almost impossible, you've beaten the odds and you somehow get to exist as a living, breathing, conscious being, you should respect that and try to make it matter as much as possible. Life for most is an endless pursuit of meaning, but even if we never find that meaning, in the pursuit we find purpose.

@YourPalHDee and where is the proof that it is worth it? i could try to work, but i know that i will get depressed after two weeks.

you're probably one of those guys who just tell everyone who is depressed or in another shitty situation that they just have to "try harder"

@Chris aka Schulbus Yeah, but I'm happy. I'm sorry you're unhappy, but you need to try harder.

@Chris aka Schulbus Yeah, but I'm happy. I'm sorry you're unhappy, but you need to try harder.

@YourPalHDee how do you come to the conclusion that i've been sheltered from bad feelings?
the crap has always overpowered the good stuff in my life... all the work, for not even half as much fun.
and i'm wrong because i don't think that there is more to this existence? "why are you right?" would be my question towards you

@Chris aka Schulbus No it isn't. Sounds like you've just been sheltered from bad feelings and when you experience them it's overwhelming. Happiness is a pendulum, you will forever move from Happiness to sadness because that is the nature of chaos. All things must have equilibrium.

@YourPalHDee it's better than caring about something and then getting disappointed when you realise that it is pointless

@YourPalHDee it's better than caring about something and then getting disappointed when you realise that it is pointless

Nah! Being edgy and pretending not to care about anything is a super valuable trait in society!

Nah! Being edgy and pretending not to care about anything is a super valuable trait in society!

EvanPlaysPc I agree, I’d say that’s a problem with it. It’s idea that nothing matters or has any value is discouraging and doesn’t really tell you to grow or learn anything.

EvanPlaysPc I agree, I’d say that’s a problem with it. It’s idea that nothing matters or has any value is discouraging and doesn’t really tell you to grow or learn anything.

@Chris aka Schulbus apologies, I deleted my first message as I misread your reply.

Imo that response is why nihilism is a dangerous doctrine to believe in philosophy, because unlike other modes of belief, it doesnt grow with your knowledge, instead it corrodes your other beliefs through it's very idea. While i don't agree with nihilism, I do agree to believe that it actively hurts a desire to learn more about the world

@EvanPlaysPc "but to claim that's the only logical conclusion from these mental tools would be false." that might be true, yet i still don't see any rational and objective reason to care about or embrace those other philosophies, maybe if i'm generous "we need them because humanity would probably go extinct"

@Chris aka Schulbus nihilism, like every philosophical outlook, comes from rational and abstract thought, you're right there, but to claim that's the only logical conclusion from these mental tools would be false.

Nihilism is a full-stop on growth in theories and logic, by acknowledging nihilism then you just abandon any potential growth around that. Nihilism is a state of inertia that would doom us were we all to embrace it

@EvanPlaysPc "Personally I think anyone who leans on nihilism in their beliefs rely on a mute point to stop abstract and logical thought" ... but i think it's exactly logic and rational thought that makes me so pessimistic and non-caring. or do i interpret your comment wrong?

Yeah to add to this. Nietzsche was a v pessimistic philosopher, but he was also staunchly against nihilism, his concept of the ubermensch was partly made to counteract it. As that in itself as a meaning as from him no one has achieved ubermensch yet.

Personally I think anyone who leans on nihilism in their beliefs rely on a mute point to stop abstract and logical thought, which is why imo it's usually teenagers who talk about it

I just follow the mindset of the God-Emperor myself.

I just follow the mindset of the God-Emperor myself.

@Gabriel Sanchez it's pretty much the core philosophy of the show... of course i do understand what dan harmon said with "knowing that nothing matters, while it might be true, doesn't get you anywhere" or something along those lines.

"I'm now going to be searching for other interesting conversations I can meddle in."
if you're doing this on youtube it could be hard tho find some, but they do exist ;)

thanks anyway for the input

@Chris aka Schulbus Ah, I understand. Thank you for replying anyways. As I stated before, I personally love talking about mindsets and all that. I enjoy watching Rick and Morty, but there isn't really a whole lot of other philosophies that come through that show (well, too much in depth). Again, thank you for replying, I'm now going to be searching for other interesting conversations I can meddle in.

@Gabriel Sanchez i am not really sad that i can't understand how other people think and feel... it's just like i said, really alienating.

but usually i don't make this my biggest problem, since there are many other things that don't go that well right now.

and no, it doesn't matter that much how or why i'm here, it's just hard finding any kind of real meaning to it.

but i actually didn't want to go that much offtopic, it was more about the idea that i see many things i think and feel in rick and morty... it really speaks to many thoughts and opinions i have about this existence.

@Chris aka Schulbus So sorry to get in the middle of all this, but I found your comments fascinating. Does it really matter how you were made into this world? Or, that you're one of many lifeforms within this planet? It seems that you have taken into account the logical idea for human beings but not the emotional idea. Both are equally important to human living (I had to learn that the hard way). Like the commenter who was replying to you before, even if emotion is just chemicals in your brain (something like that), it doesn't mean that the value of emotion loses any of its weight.

I have one last question for you, if you genuinely do feel sad that you can't understand people, why not make that your meaning? This is a question you don't need to apply to. As long as you have an answer to it is what's important. Whether that answer is negative or positive is up to you.

Sorry again, but this conversation was too good to pass up. To learn, hell, just to theorize what other people think, it's truly the greatest wonder in the world.

@134Cerky "I’d say your life is special" and if everyone's special... you know the phrase.

i still don't see the meaning or worth of it all. the reason i'm here is because my parents had sex. and i'm one amongst billions on a sandcorn floating through space. maybe i should be happy to be born at all... thrown into all that shit i had to go through just to be here with no good future outlook.

i really am trying to understand why other humans think and feel like they do, it feels so damn alienating to not understand it.

Chris aka Schulbus Well the way you view the world is based a lot around your mindset. You are lucky to even have eyes or a brain to think with, so what if it’s chemicals and cells? That’s just how they work, that doesn’t take away from it’s worth. It seems to me that you might be taking all of this for granted. I’d say your life is special, no one is exactly the same, we can think alike but that’s not the same thing. Though there are urges or temptations we get from certain experiences we can reject them if we choose and we don’t do everything for the soul reason that we feel them.

@134Cerky "There is meaning to this world, you give it meaning" ... well in my eyes we are all just a bunch of cells with electric pulses and chemicals floating aorund. family means nothing to me since why should it? just other humans that happen to be realated to me. i know that everything i do, be it sex, eating food, playing games ist just my desire for chemicals in my brain. i wish i could live without social interactions because i know that it's just something our brains are wired to do. there is nothing really special about it. there is nothing special to anything in my life. <br>and i tried multiple times to see more... to see that stuff that other people seem to see. is it just my autism, who knows... but it's only about 3000 weeks (about 60 years) at most until this shitshow is finally over, so at least there's that

@134Cerky "There is meaning to this world, you give it meaning" ... well in my eyes we are all just a bunch of cells with electric pulses and chemicals floating aorund. family means nothing to me since why should it? just other humans that happen to be realated to me. i know that everything i do, be it sex, eating food, playing games ist just my desire for chemicals in my brain. i wish i could live without social interactions because i know that it's just something our brains are wired to do. there is nothing really special about it. there is nothing special to anything in my life.
and i tried multiple times to see more... to see that stuff that other people seem to see. is it just my autism, who knows... but it's only about 3000 weeks (about 60 years) at most until this shitshow is finally over, so at least there's that

@Xander T the full quote to that shows that it's not something he liked, he wasn't a reddit user

@Xander T the full quote to that shows that it's not something he liked, he wasn't a reddit user

Don't be like Rick Sanchez. Be yourself. That's how morals work.

Don't be like Rick Sanchez. Be yourself. That's how morals work.

@the Harvard Yard Now, let's look at this world leader.
pans to Hitler
Uptight, high-strung, always angry, pay close attention to the "I really want to take over the world to satisfy the gaping void in my soul" button. These are all the markings of a bad world leader.
If you want to be a good world leader, always remember this handy acronym:
People
Overthrow
Oppressive
Politicians

@the Harvard Yard Now, let's look at this world leader.
*pans to Hitler*
Uptight, high-strung, always angry, pay close attention to the "I really want to take over the world to satisfy the gaping void in my soul" button. These are all the markings of a bad world leader.
If you want to be a good world leader, always remember this handy acronym:
People
Overthrow
Oppressive
Politicians

Remember: 👏 NO 👏 EMPLOYEE 👏 WANTS TO 👏 BE A 👏 SQUIDWARD

Remember: 👏 NO 👏 EMPLOYEE 👏 WANTS TO 👏 BE A 👏 SQUIDWARD

hweirdo stop calling nietzsche a nihilist

hweirdo stop calling nietzsche a nihilist

I don't get how people who think that nothing matters don't realise that that attitude also doesn't matter. Harmon almost got it right at 13:10 (the sentiment was there, but he justified it from a utilitarian perspective as opposed to a nihilistic one). If you truly believe that nothing matters, then you should also believe that that belief doesn't matter, and that any "path" you choose is just as valid as that one. It's almost as if they're cherry picking what does and doesn't matter.
What I also don't like is the people who over-correct themselves by rejecting nihilism and embracing xyz. To me, they're no different to the religious zealots (the fundamentalist-christian types) who reject all other ways of thinking and parade theirs as better.

I don't know where I'm going with this and who I heard this from, but there was an academic/philosopher who said that they approached everything with "infinite doubt" which was supposed to mean that they challenged every thought that they had with every possible criticism from logical fallacies to cognitive biases. I don't do this because I cant be fucked familiarising myself with all the logical fallacies and cognitive biases, but what I do do is I accuse myself of being a stinge cunt through accusations like "You're over-correcting yourself", "You only think this because you're [insert any negative trait like selfishness, narcissism, etc]", "You're generalising", and "You only think that because you don't want to admit that you're a bad person" and then rebut those accusations til I get bored. I guess what I'm tryna say is: People should do that.

@Kos 291 there's two types of nihilism: existential and universal. I don't remember who proposed the existential, but he said that religion gives meaning to man and it is necessary to him. The universal is Nietzsche's nihilism, as you said, everyone who really experienced is dead or had depression.

@JoeRingo118 so if it's all about avoiding nihilism, then why people still claim that they're nihilist as their philosophy when it's not even considered one by Nietzche? If philosophy is based on how people creating value on something does it mean they indeed turning nihilism into a philosophy even when in their life they never a nihilist?

I bet most people here (including me) never experience true nihilistic moment. Meanwhile people who actually experienced true nihilism very rarely share it to other people or  they're dead. All I see are Middle class people bored with their mundane life with easy access to affordable luxuries, like watching a cartoon people think it's the smartest show in the world, weirdly written by average minds.

@Laszlo, the finest mind of his generation and this is the best example of people who claimed to be nihilistic but not. Just because you read books about nihilism suddenly you're a nihilist. This is the equivalent of a girl who just returned from 3 months long "spiritual journey" from Italy, India and Bali, and return home thinking she's the best philosopher in the world because she ate some pasta and pizza with fresh ingredients, doing some basic yoga and getting a tan in a beach.

Because in reality most people who like nihilism are not actual nihilist, just bored middle class people with actual life and easy access to basic human luxuries. True nihilists don't even give two shit about the world especially some animated TV show for mature audience. Even the true nihilist writer that wrote nihilist stories and actual nihilist irl never become mainstream because his stories are hard to swallow. Meanwhile Nietzche wasn't a true nihilist and even trying to reverse the damage the book caused to public.

@Laszlo, the finest mind of his generation Does that actually work for you? Or do you just hope it will work but then it doesn't really? Genuine question.

@Laszlo, the finest mind of his generation Does that actually work for you? Or do you just hope it will work but then it doesn't really? Genuine question.

As jreg put it: DON'T 👏 CALL 👏 YOURSELF 👏 AN 👏 ANARCHO 👏 NIHILIST 👏 IF 👏 YOU 👏 BELIEVE 👏 IN 👏 ANARCHY 👏 OR 👏 NIHILISM 👏

As jreg put it: DON'T 👏 CALL 👏 YOURSELF 👏 AN 👏 ANARCHO 👏 NIHILIST 👏 IF 👏 YOU 👏 BELIEVE 👏 IN 👏 ANARCHY 👏 OR 👏 NIHILISM 👏

Negative nihilism and positive nihilism are not the same. Schopenhauer was a negative nihilism, in that the only way he believed the Will could be conquered was through death. At his core, he's pessimistic and longed for death.

However, Nietzsche is a positive nihilist who's philosophy was that no inherent meaning in the universe resulted in letting us create meaning for ourselves.

Falling into the negative side of Nihilism can be a dangerous trap, yes, the universe and life itself are meaningless and pointless in the grand scheme of things, that's something we'll never be able to change or control, and that's exactly why we shouldn't dwell on that thought for too long, accepting life's lack of meaning is the first step towards giving YOUR life meaning, fuck the universe, fuck being a spec of dust in the grand scheme of things, if nothing has value then I'll give it a value myself, life isn't happiness and rainbows 24/7, but it doesn't have to be a dark hole either.

@Piesiege work on your jokes. you can do it

@Piesiege work on your jokes. you can do it

Taoism is the greatest antidote I have found. If You read a good translation of the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu (the founder of Taoism) and not feel changed after, keep reading it, it is simple and percise for the majority of it. I reccomend the Jane English translation. Truly life changing. Its like the swiss army knife of philosophy, just know when to read it literally and when to see it as metaphor and you will get it. Making that distinction is pretty easy with this text too.

Laszlo, the finest mind of his generation that’s a smart way to look at it, I just don’t like the idea of living your whole life with that philosophy.

Laszlo, the finest mind of his generation that’s a smart way to look at it, I just don’t like the idea of living your whole life with that philosophy.

JoeRingo118 thanks for saying that. I’m just pointing out the idea of nothing having purpose or value being bs. But your right, personal value is something you give and assign to things, you don’t have to be scared to do that.

There is meaning to this world, you give it meaning but that’s only what’s important to you not that there’s anything wrong with that. Existence doesn’t have to be pian, life is a gift, don’t be so ungrateful to say “I give up”. Learn to grow and change for the better and improve yourself when you get the chance. The world doesn’t revolve around us, things can move on without us and that’s ok. This planet and it’s nature has billions of creatures and things with their own purpose to keep its world ticking. Just appreciate what you have right now in the moment but also work for a better future. The biggest lie I have ever heard is nothing has a “purpose or meaning”.

And that right there is why BoJack is 100 times more emotionally mature than Rick and Morty. I mean, I like both shows but there's no denying the former is far superior.

And that right there is why BoJack is 100 times more emotionally mature than Rick and Morty. I mean, I like both shows but there's no denying the former is far superior.

@awkwardcultism That is Camus. And Camus said that because Sisyphus didn't have to deal with the existential angst of... existence because he always had something to do. Intrinsically, for Camus life is suffering (it is an existential axiom after all), but you can make the best of it if you take that suffering to be the way for happiness or meaning itself.

And Nietzsche's "god is dead" quote is precisely about what Xylas is talking of. He believed that, having gone past through religion, the modern man would have to deal with horrors. Nietzsche said "What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives; who will wipe this blood off us?"
Doesn't sound triumphant to me.

@awkwardcultism if you mean the "god is dead" guy, then yes

@awkwardcultism if you mean the "god is dead" guy, then yes

I think you have a different definition of nihilism than Nietzsche.<br>We're talking about the guy that wrote "We must imagine Sisyphus to be happy", right?

I think you have a different definition of nihilism than Nietzsche.
We're talking about the guy that wrote "We must imagine Sisyphus to be happy", right?


Watching this now after the first 3 episodes of Season 5, I think they’re getting back on track. Focusing more on the family and Rick seeming less like a god. I think they need to input more direction on story / consequences but overall they are doing better than both season 3 & 4.

@Raymundo González Please do yourself a favor and at least watch the Ricklantis Mixup. It's actually incredibly well done and totally stands out from the rest of Season 3 and 4.

@Luis Castro Yes you are right lol they really mislead me with the first episode. 70% of the season felt so lazy and didn’t feel like Rick and Morty.

Rick and Morty season 5 has quickly became my least favorite season yet. Last episode was bland it felt like watching modern family guy.

@Vape Lord Yoda I liked episode 6, 4 and 5 were weird though

Updated: Episode 6 was another mediocre episode. Probably a bit better than last 2 but still unremarkable.

Update for episode 5: Going downhill, very mediocre. I just don’t know what’s wrong with them. Just a unremarkable episode I will never care to rewatch again.

@Raymundo González Just look at the ratings. Watch the highest rated episodes from 3/4.

@Vape Lord Yoda Canadian online cinematheatre showed 7th episode instead of 4th. And the episode is one big parody of power rangers with this giant robots from separate smaller robots. But it roboferrets, idk why, but it is

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@Vape Lord Yoda yeah the creators even said that they honestly didn’t like the episode

@Дармен Жагуфаров No I don’t, what’s that?

@Vape Lord Yoda true. And do you know about 7 episode leak?

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I’m here after the 4th episode of season 5, basically the sperm episode, and I’m so disappointed honestly. I know they can do better than 22 minutes of sperm and incest jokes. So dissatisfying.

@Raymundo González You should probably watch the first episode of season 3 and the “ricklantis” episode. Those 2 are important. Maybe the season 3 finale too (the episode kinda sucks) but it sets up the season 4 finale. And speaking of season 4, the finale is basically the only episode that matters to the story. There’s some episodes that are enjoyable but not story important.

@Raymundo González i think you can. You can watch some important and good episodes like Rick Citadel, but it is not necessaliry

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can i just jump into season 5 from s2? I tried to watch s3 and some bits of 4 but i just couldn't bear it. Do i need to follow some plot or just get right into the new eps?


The fact "wubba lubba dub dub" means "I am in great pain, please help me" manages to capture all of the shows greatest strengths and weaknesses simultaneously.


Given how season five is almost a straight rebuttal to the shift of season 3, I look forward to seeing your thoughts as the show continues

@Caio Vasconcelos Lara They kinda lost the plot but i rly liked the last episode...except for the crow shit that was so useless

@Kebab kebob <br>Its just a opinion man, relax = )

@Kebab kebob
Its just a opinion man, relax = )

@Kebab kebob
Nope, of course it was not a " disaster "
for me, it was one of the best seasons of all since the third one.
The jokes are amazing, the themes and parodies... it was a phenomenal season! = )

@CryoraptorA303TM honestly? I forgot it even happened until the ferret episode. And I assumed they were ripping on themselves by making a new pickle Rick. That’s how I interpreted it anyway

And almost completely killed the show in the process. I'm not sure how they are going to pull it back from the gravitational singularity that is the incest baby.


To be fair, as cringe the memes are, I absolutely LOVED pickle rick, it's the embodiment of what I would come up with in my dreams as a teenager, I think the Dr. Wong scene was very bold, the criticism 100% valid but I think the sheer suddeness of it being LITERALLY portraided boldly and exactly how it is was quite funny and interesting, and to them then awkwardly just disregarding it in the car to me ressembled how people disregard psychology as a science in general. I think it does not get enough credit.