The real reason they both failed: Celestia doesn’t want Sunset around because her name prophesises her downfall, and Sunburst because he prophesises her exploding.

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 rn, Celestia looks like a drama queen to me :D

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 twilight is the downfall of both, the in between.

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 A little bit sus...

no all i can think about is celestia going KABOOM

is it celestia exploding or is it Sunburst??

WARNING: CELESTIA IS GONNA E X P L O D E

@Amber Lyrane I just got a horrifying image of her being a descendent of both. I hate my mind,

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 Well, Twilight is a time of between sunset and sunrise when both the moon and the sun are on the horizon. So Twilight Sparkle would actually be more of a prophecy of bringing the sisters together rather than bringing one or both down.

@Enoch Cox its not plagiarism, mate, its an abridged series. the point is to play the show plot the same while lampshading certain parts of it, like for example, in the dragonshy episode, how often other abridged series kill off the dragon.

And Pinkie's whole deal in this show is to see the script. they're played as jokes. I dont think you understand what Show Dont Tell Means.

@Miles Gaunt even if that was the case the fact is that mlp scootertrix the abridged has issues with how it plays out. For one thing during 10 or so episodes (and yes, I tortured my self in watching at least ten episodes of mlp scootertrix the abridged episodes.) The plot is the same as the plot of mlp freindship is magic, how it survived for five years without youtube blocked it from being watched in america due to plagerism at least is unknown to me, either way it plagerizes mlp friendship is magic. Second issue the maker of mlp scootertrix the abridged clearly forgot one of the most important things in writing a script or story, which is the saying, show don't tell, shown by pinkie pie in mlp scootertrix the abridged sometimes telling what is going to happen next. So tell me, how is mlp scootertrix the abridged not garbage?

@Enoch Cox Keep watching. Spike mentions it before episode 10.

@Enoch Cox wow, this is a very impassionate rant. i was referencing to a joke made in one short about how Sunset was banished because her name gave her power over Celestia, but its actually kinda funny how enraged you got over a joke i made.

I doubt you care anymore, but for what its worth, Scootertrix gets better later on. the first episode aint much.

@Miles Gaunt I just watched mlp scootertrix the abridged and I saw no plot that had anything to do with what I said nor did it have anything to do with the video. So did you actually try to get me to watch a worthless, stupid, and boring show for nothing. There were no mlp theory's mentioned in mlp scootertrix the abridged series. It's a show that a bunch of people created out of boredom. Scootertrix the abridged is garbage.

@Hat Storm what if twilight sparkle is a descendents of luna given that her name would be an aspect of the stars. Also when you also think about it the other characters and side character not related or being celestia's students don't all have names that are aspects of the sun, daylight, moon, or night. Which could imply that they are decendents of the other mlp ponies that were alive when celestia and luna was younger. It would make sense if it was during a time when there were less ponies in equestria. And if you think about it many people in real life are related to one ancestor. Charlemagne I think. I can't remember but maybe when equestria had unicorns that were supposed to raise the sun there were fewer ponies then. Either way stars do shine or sparkle which could imply twilight sparkle is a descendent of luna. And if you think about it further don't real life royals receive the title of prince or princess from their mother, father, grandma, or grandpa? After all the friendship lessons could be a test that celestia or luna devised that show what they want their decendent that inherits their throne to have.

@Enoch Cox You might actually be on to something. I forgot she lived a millennia, not just a few centuries. When you think about it, it makes sense that she’d have some descendants, like her nephew. Wait... Either Luna has a kid, or there’s a third Alicorn Sister(Not Cadance).

@Hat Storm are you sure cause celestia in the series lived for at least one thousand years. And that includes luna as well. So even with that could it be possible? Or do you think I'm wrong?

Now that I think about it could it be that sunset shimmer and sunburst are descendents of celestia. I mean if you think about the names of the students that have been under princess celestia tutalage. They seem to be related to night, day, the sun, and the moon. Which if you think about it reality wise, it could be that the mlp names relating to day or the sun signify a bloodline through celestia in the same way that the last name of a person signify which family you are descended from. I don't know much about horses but I assume the ability to do something really good is due to genetics in any creature. Which affects the cutie mark of a mlp pony.

very true i  was drinking water and cracked so hard that the water spilt

Specifically, her waistline exploding from all the cake

@Sandra Escobar aka undergirlx257 OMC, that makes perfect sense!

Imagine is Sunburst succeeded and one day Celestia just went <b>KABOOM</b>

Imagine is Sunburst succeeded and one day Celestia just went *KABOOM*

And she accepted twilight sparkle because its related to lunas downfall

@Hat Storm I see you are man of culture as well.

JDKDJDDJD OMFG I STARTED CACKLING AT THIS COMMENT I LOVE THIS


the fact that Twilight did not mention her BBBFF to her best friends until two seasons in, and it took 6 seasons to find out that Fluttershy has a brother means that I can absolutely believe that Sunburst would not have mentioned Sunset to Starlight at all. whether it be writing convenience or equestian cultural quirk


She could be a cousin. Only the apple family seems to have extended family talked about.

I kind of think that you have a good point

@Teatime Apple Jack’s mom was a pear so it would make sense if the pears are also a part of the Apples

@CloudyplayzYT scootaloo and rainbow dash arent sisters, rainbow is just a sister figure for her

@CloudyplayzYT that's immediate family not extended family

not rlly rarity and sweetie bell are sisters and scootaloo and rainbow dash...

@Teatime yes they are, there’s proof in an episode

@Teatime yes they are. apple jack's mom is a pear, which would technically add her to the apple family tree

@serenaaaa the pears arnt apart of the apple familly

@· My Little Pony Episodes · and the pears

@· My Little Pony Episodes · pinkie.....maybe we still have no clue

There are so many members of the Apple Family. Applejack, Apple Bloom, Big Mac, Granny Smith, Apple Bumpkin, Apple Dumplings, Apple Leaves, Apple Rose, Aunt and Uncle Orange, Auntie Applesauce...

I actually think her being a cousin is more likely.


More likely: THEY ARE COUSINS WHO NEVER REALLY MET

@imo55 blink probably because sunburst is the same age as starlight, meaning if sunset left before starlight could have memories, that means she might've also left before sunburst had memories-

@melmil2 No need to apologize, just keep it in mind in the future that you don't necessarily need to give voice to everything that crosses your mind. Trust me, I still have trouble with that myself sometimes, if I'm being honest...

@melmil2 And you didn't have to tell them that, but you did anyway. Life is basically just people doing things they didn't have to do. Like watch this video, or comment on it.

@Nathan Dean This just in: Starlight Glimmer is Sunburst’s Cousin twice removed by a third cousin

OOOOOHH NO!!! WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER APPLE PIE RABBIT HOLE!!!

OOOOOHH NO!!! WE DO *_NOT_* NEED ANOTHER APPLE PIE RABBIT HOLE!!!


"Less than stellar experiences"... he didn't even realize he made a pun

@Sawtooth Waves I love your work but I wonder how do you have every season of My Little Pony friendship is Magic? I mean on Netflix it used to have the first eight seasons but unfortunately I think due to budget cuts they had to remove season 5, 6, 7, And 8 by the way have you ever seen any kurzgesagt videos they have made lots of videos on YouTube answering scientific questions by making a equally balanced perspective I'm pretty much it would be pretty dishonest to say they've always worked this way two videos that annoyed them the most where the refugee and addiction videos from 2014 in both of them they didn't making equally balanced perspective but just chose a take and ran with it. The refugee video was made on one August morning in 2014 and used a Deep feeling angry frustration about the world and was it lestrade and animated within a week it was exhausting stressful and took a bit of time to do it well it was right for European countries to help there was no need to be toxic about it and many people Rush two bag assures the video was divisive and violent in a Time when the European Council needed a calm and clear overview. The addiction video was made in October of 2014 and was based on one source that had a lot of flaws in it and when they made it's script they didn't reach out to scientist's or researchers to do extra research so it has very little research in it but it was still held up by a number of addiction professionals but many others disagreed and said it's not "the truth" both of these videos where made in the span of two months and were two of there most successful videos it doesn't help that they're loved by millions of people the kurzgesagt video team wants to be proud of its work and those two videos didn't make them proud so they deleted them feel free to upload them elsewhere also the refugee video is not up to date anymore so kurzgesagt will not renew it and they're going through some of their older videos to add sources to the video description if you watch like 40 of their videos then you might learn a lot about everything around you I highly recommend you should start with the alien scale video so you can see how far the pony race can spread their Spear of influence over the universe!!!!! 👀🦄😇😁🤯

Well sunset shimmer does have a similar cutie mark to sunbursts mother so the odds of sunset shimmer being part of the sun family are unimaginably high especially at a family tree, And genetic prospective so something like this would be possible! 😎👀🦄 ;)

@John Andrew Jerome Stellar Flare. Less than “stellar” experiences. Get it now?


Literally every mlp theory about the characters relationships seem so believable and I don't know why...

Yeah ikr it's so believable but it's so amazing

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طوت م جكزثمثكثزثكمثنثز

That’s probably because... they’re TRUE!

@Huyền Vũ Thị Thanh true That and be true

Maybe because new siblings being introduced isn't that rare that and relationships are newanced ie shineing armor and zefer breeze

Remember that's just a theory! A MLP THEORY!!

Or maybe Sunburst kept Sunset away from Starlight

Maybe Because there's no information about the smaller things in the show that didn't get explained.


According to the comics(yes, I know they're of dubious canon), Sunset's parents never wrote to her, never tried to write to her before she leapt through the mirror portal. I don't see them as siblings, more as a first cousin, like(at least in my own headcanon) how Applejack and Braeburn are first cousins.

Maybe they were caught up in raising Sunburst

Oh, yeah, good point. The only thing is how some people don't believe the canon of the comics.


i think sunburst was distraught when sunset vanished so he couldn’t focus and flunked out

I agree when my grandpa died it took <br>A lot of my passion for learning

I agree when my grandpa died it took
A lot of my passion for learning

@Ziiyan which I feel very well could've been the case and as well he felt Betrayed And ended up closing himself off from the outside world mostly

oo that would be a good theory, especially if he was close to her

@Vinx.909 Actually, I don't think it does. Mental blocks of this sort can be powerful. If there's only a few years difference between them, it's possible that they were actually in Celestia's school at the same time. He would have been right there when she rebelled, and that would have had a profound effect on his psyche. Not only would he be dealing with the guilt and grief of losing his older sister; but he'd be dealing with not only the consternation of the other students, but that of Celestia herself, expecting him to have the same fall from grace his sister experienced. That kind of pressure could very easily have muted his powers and abilities, in perhaps the same way that some people become mute after severe trauma. Unable to handle the pressure, and unable to perform magic due to the block; (remember, in Starlight's memories he was perfectly able to perform magic; but in the Crystal Empire he talked heavily about "knowing so much but not being able to DO any of it!") he flunked out and ended up hiding in the Crystal Empire, working to deal with his grief and shame and working through the mental blocks those emotions caused.

I don't understand what you two guys are saying or talk about because I never really read or heard about Sunbursts story<br>Or Sunset Shimmers story

I don't understand what you two guys are saying or talk about because I never really read or heard about Sunbursts story
Or Sunset Shimmers story

does that not take away from his story of flunking out? situational instead of something just couldn't do? is the story of someone who had the path but then had to suffer the realisation that they couldn't follow it and then finding a way to their destiny in a different manor not better then the story of someone who was harmed by circumstances and had to change his path because of that?


I can easily imagine that after Sunset's rebellion her parents might prefer to avoid talking about her, depending on how they took the news, but if she were Sunburst's older sister then I would expect him to be confused more than anything else and to talk to his closest friend since he couldn't talk to his parents.


Me hearing suns multiple times in their names: they COULD be siblings

Also me hearing starlight not knowing who was Sunset: they COULD be cousins


i just can’t get over how similar they look


This is an interesting theory! Also, that image of filly Sunset Shimmer is adorable. Thanks for sharing this with us, Sawtooth! ^_^
I wonder how long Sunset Shimmer was away from Equestria and how old she was when she first became Celestia's student. In The Fall of Sunset Shimmer, Sunset seems to be the size of a teen or adult pony, but show canon overrides comic canon. Celestia doesn't mention Sunset's age, so it's possible that Sunset was still a filly when she started studying with the princess.
We know that Sunset has been in the human world slightly longer than Spike's age since he hatched on the day Twilight became Celestia's student. The MLP Wiki describes Spike as a "preteen" dragon. This could mean that he's any age younger than 13 or that he's 10 to 12 years old. I'm betting on the latter since Spike's molt seems like a dragon version of puberty.
Was Sunset still a filly when she ran away? How long did she live as a human? Who knows the answers? Certainly not me. ^_^;


Their cutie marks aren't very alike. But actually cutie marks of siblings don't need to look alike. Rarity and Sweetie Belle's cutie marks are completely different.


Nice theory! I think I said this in season 8's "The Parent Map" when we see Stellar Flare again.

Would make perfect sense. They both got yellow coat colors, same eye color, hair color almost, same "sunny" like, Cutie Marks and sun in their names. Sunset, Sunburst. Heck, they EVEN got the same magical aura color of yellow! ☀✨🦄

But a las. With the show now being over with we may NEVER know now!! ;__;


Now that I think about it, the concept of "The Last Problem" (going back to your hometown after tearfully leaving your friends) could've been a conclusion to both Sunset and EQG. Think about it:

In the EQG world, Sunset debates with her friends whether she should stay or go back to Equestria. Twilight, Starlight, and Spike convince her to go back because it's her true home and to see her family because "you shouldn't run away from her problems". Suddenly, both Equestria and the EQG world start to deteriorate because the mirror has been used so often it's damaging the fabric of time and space. Twilight warns that this is their last chance to use the mirror. They tearfully bid the Humane 6 farewell and go the portal before the mirror destroys itself, permanently sealing the path between 2 worlds. The special ends with Sunset going to Sire's Hollow and reconciling with Sunburst, her mother, and her father (if he's still alive) finally canonizing this theory


This has been on my mind since Sunburst was introduced on the show, I thought I was the only one who noticed this but apparently not. Though I would love it if they confirmed this theory because it could be made as a special episode along with some other theories that could be canon like you videos about the three villains being reformed (with Sombra), the truth about alicorns, what is the origins of the alicorn amulet, or the true origins of sombra (not the origins in the comics). And speaking of Sombra, they could make a special episode about the lost queen of the crystal empire because from the other theories I've heard she can be revived again if all the pieces of the crystal statue she was turned into was put back together again maybe it will shed some light on what Sombra's REAL intentions was.

These are just my thoughts though 😁


Finally! I've been waiting for someone to talk about this theory... there are so many similarities between them


I’ve always wanted someone to explain this:
If pony Sunset knew Celestia then shouldn’t human sunset know human Celestia. Human Sunset would’ve been a student at her school so I’m confused on why she didn’t recognize sunset and get confused. Since Sunset is older than the mane six, that means she should be the oldest in the hair seven, excluding pony sunset and with human sunset instead.

If there’s a video about this then please give me the link


Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Trixie canonically was conceived via a one-night-stand and was neglected by her mother.

@Mao Zedong They'd be half siblings. I like that idea.

@Mao Zedong We don't even know if he's married

@Mao Zedong Sex outside of marriage exists ya know, Jack Pot isn't the type of guy to settle down with a wife much to the disappointment to Trixie's mother.

@Mao Zedong I...guess? If he doesn't know he has a daughter probably

@Fixed Assets okay that does mean the dad is banging somepony that's is not his wife

@Mao Zedong They literally look near identical

@JackalopeJunkie It always had some Fridge Horror aspects since Season 1.

@Mao Zedong Yes, he is—he just doesn’t know it because, well, one-night stand.

@Oh kay okay he probably is Trixie's dad, but is he Trixie's biological dad?

@Mao Zedong the staff confirmed him to be Trixie’s dad. Maybe he doesn’t know that he had a daughter, but he is her father.

@TriggerHappyEevee well in the twitter account says that Trixie is the result of one night stand so that's mean anyone can be Trixie's dad

@Mao Zedong no the pony from that one episode is her dad

the episode where they have to help Flim and Flam, the magician that's Trixies dad

Good now I can imagine Trixie saying what are you doing stepsis? To twilight

@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot okay now this is messed up, her father could be anyone, wouldn't it be funny if twilight's dad is Trixie's real dad


I’ve heard some crazy theories but this one sounds so accurate and so true that I would have to believe it.  Also I would have loved to see sunset recognize starlight especially if their bond were to be stronger because of it.


this makes soo much sense, and its a great backstory. I love this theory, and it all adds up completely.


This actually seems like a pretty good theory that seems quite solid as a potential for once.  It would certainly be nice if everything tied up nice and neatly like that, but unless there is another equestria girls special that goes into Sunset's family, it's sadly a bit of a dead-end.


I really love this theory, especially because it make a relation with Sunburst  and Sunset. This could also take some consideration due to the fact that Twilight went to the  school but doesn't remember Sunburst at all. This could also be because she got in soon after Sunburst flunked out though...


It'd actually make sense if they're actually siblings, or maybe even cousins! Like seriously, their appearances are so similar!


Most of my sister’s friends when we went to the same school didn’t know we were sisters, some of them are STILL surprised 4 years later. <br>He could of told her about his big sister without mentioning a name, or even only call her “Sunset”, I’m willing to bet some pony’s end up with the same names or similar names. Like Apple Jack and Apple Bloom?

Most of my sister’s friends when we went to the same school didn’t know we were sisters, some of them are STILL surprised 4 years later.
He could of told her about his big sister without mentioning a name, or even only call her “Sunset”, I’m willing to bet some pony’s end up with the same names or similar names. Like Apple Jack and Apple Bloom?


I don’t think Celestia would accept the younger sibling of a former student that rebelled as a new student.

Celestia is not that type of pony, that judges after your background/family. She takes students because of their talent.

He might have been excepted before Sunset left. I think this makes more sense because I don't think the parents would send Sunburst to a school were they already lost a child, and it may also explain why Sunburst flunked out, he was grieving.

Why? Celestia is really forgiving and kind.

Celestia is pretty forgiving actually, in 'forgotten friendship' she forgave sunset pretty quickly

wait wait to debunk this- think about irl things here. I know there's cases of students who have older siblings with a bad tone in their names but they are still accepted either way. That could have been the same case here?


Sunset shimmer being a cousin to sunburst makes more sense<br>Edit: guys guys, I only said it "makes more sense" I never fully confirmed that sunset is sunburst's cousin😂

Sunset shimmer being a cousin to sunburst makes more sense
Edit: guys guys, I only said it "makes more sense" I never fully confirmed that sunset is sunburst's cousin😂

@Hiccy69 Ahum pardon me? "Regardless of gender" and what is that supposed to mean?

@Petstran uh-? so- you are saying, Sunsets cutie mark is.. Painting.. Ok-? I mean I don’t agree but it’s alright.

Sunset shimmers cutie marl ia that she is a artist ponies with magical abilities have stars in there cutie mark and starlight sun burst twilight have stars in there cutie marks and they are good at magic anf in equstria girls in some clips with pinkie and sunset creative drawing what was sunset drawing and in this onr episode where the mane 7 tried to close school they werr doing parts but sunset was doing paintings ans she was amazing at it but in equstria sunset must of drawn and became an artist in equstria and got her cutie mark i also might be wrong cause in equstria girls in the beggining sunset did a teleportation spell i also might be right cause sweetie Belle did a teleportation spell and she did not have a magical cutie mark ability sooo that my theory

@박유순 you didnt watch the video, did you?.

I don't think that sunset is sunburst cousin

Well I belive that sunset may be a cousin as also one difference is that she does not have the little white halk on her hooves

@Hiccy69 That doesn’t really seem fair. All fandoms have people like that, not MLP exclusively

@•ZER0_0207• Starlight is younger than Sunset?

@mingo.dingok come on i had a hate shipping

@mingo.dingok and... thats all i have to say. Don't just ship random people or animated characters, it just plainly stupid

@mingo.dingok this is the problem with MLP fans. Most of you just randomly ship every character with another character that you saw on screen, whether they are just background ponies or not, whether they have same gender or not, etc. If they are at least being mentioned as a couple in the series or Hasbro speaks up for them, than thats fine. But don't just go ship random characters without any kind of reason or context. Its just downright stupid.


Not sure about siblings, Sunburst would have a picture of his sister or something, but definitely related in some way, cousins?

ya ur right they could be cousins cause sunset would have mentioned about her family as well to her close best friend A.K.A twillight
but she didn't even though EVERYONE knows that she turned evil so if she were siblings she would have atleast told about sunburst
cause the whole ' being evil ' thing blew up !!!!


This has literally been my headcannon ever since Sunburst first appeared in 2015. In fact, I reasoned that an academically gifted, but magically weak unicorn like Sunburst could only get into the school for GIFTED unicorns on an influential recommendation. Like, say, from a close family member studying directly under the school's principle?


The problem is......sunset shimmer is shown much older than her so called “brother” sunburst who is the same age as starlight and starlight and sunset are shown to be around the same age

but then again i might be wrong lmao

Edit- okay I had commented this before watching the video....now that I watched it I’m pretty sure I’m wrong lmao

The problem is......sunset shimmer is shown much older than her so called “brother” sunburst who is the same age as starlight and starlight and sunset are shown to be around the same age

*but then again i might be wrong lmao*

Edit- okay I had commented this before watching the video....now that I watched it I’m pretty sure I’m wrong lmao


This is an intriguing theory, it certainly works well enough for a fan fiction, but it seems to have started because of the many similarities between Sunset and Sunburst. I would be more inclined to suspect that Sunburst was meant to be the cannon version of Sunset, leaving the original version for Equestria girls while bringing in an element of her via Sunburst. We don't know why he failed after all, who says he was bad at his studies as opposed to expelled for basically trying to take over Equestria, followed by a life of hiding out in the Crystal Empire and becoming humble, and less confident, in the process? He certainly comes through in a crunch, he's not that much of a failure. But a lot of the headcannon says "Oh, they look, act, etc. so much alike they must be related" should consider things like Twilight and Shining, or Fluttershy and Zephyr, both confirmed brothers and sisters in cannon, but they look and act very different than each other.


I actually consider this canon. Even though you had to ponder the questions long and hard to come to the realization of your case. Which I may agree with you about some things that I might find informative.


I've been curious about Sunset Shimmer's relationship with Sunburst and his family today just like everyone else who are fans of My Little Pony of all ages ❤😊


This is Exactly what I think about Sunset's Family, it would have been Perfect for a very emotional Equestria Girls special full of Character Development.
I also follow a theory that whatever Magic is used to make the Mirror Portal functional has a side-effect on the Aging Process for those who use it, when someone uses the portal, and takes on a different form on the other side, it causes one to stop Aging while in said different form, leaving them stuck looking exactly the same as when they first arrived in the other World, perhaps the biggest evidence to this theory is the Sirens/Dazzlings, they lived in the time of Starswirl the Bearded over 1000 Years ago, and even though they were banished to the Human World Centuries ago, they were still Alive today & still looked like Teenagers, and their Gemstones didn't look like it was their source of eternal life & youth or anything, otherwise they would have just aged to dust once their Gemstones were destroyed,
plus it was shown in Sunset Shimmer's origin story that Sunset was a teenager around the same time that Shining Armor & Cadence were still teenagers, meaning that she IS Older than Twilight, so if Sunset left for the Human World before Twilight became Celestia's new Star Student, the timing would be more perfect for Celestia to look for someone to take Sunset's place(as an potential Princess to inherit the rule of all Equestria), and if the Mirror Portal's magic actually Does effect the Aging Process, that would mean that Sunset has been looking like she's in her later-teens for at least a whole decade, which would mean she had plenty of time to get more used to this new world, set up a Fake Identity(Social Security, Birth Certificate, etc.), find a place to live, get a form of income(a job), and set it up so that she could attend CHS, before we got introduced to her in EQG 1,
and this may also explain why we never saw Sunset's Human Counterpart, even if she lives far away, and cause she's not under some Magical Time/Age Distortion, then she would be a fully grown woman in her Late 20's/Early 30's, living her own live completely unaware that there is someone else out there who looks like a younger version of herself, but imagine what it would be like if Human Sunset took a job as a Teacher(maybe Science or something) at CHS, and Pony Sunset was in her Class, now That would be something interesting to see!


I think it's likely they're siblings. They look similar and have similar cutie marks, color schemes, etc. I can imagine them having a less-than-friendly sibling rivalry while at Celestia's school. Sunset's disappearance would most likely be an unwelcome topic and I don't see Sunburst's mom as the type to willingly speak about her child's sudden disappearance. Sunburst and Sunset might have been distant from each other even before Celestia's school, and the age difference thing could also apply to them if Sunburst's parents never brought up his older sister. Just my theory, tell me what you think?


I feel like if this were true, Sunset left the family a long time ago before Sunburst was even born. Sunset was Celestia’s student before Twilight and left what seems like long before Twilight was born.So it would make sense why Sunburst or Starlight have never met or seen her before.


I could see it happen

Sunburst: mommy! Where's big sis?

The mother: she's probably at The princesses castle.

Celestia: sweating violently

I could see it happen

Sunburst: mommy! Where's big sis?

The mother: she's probably at The princesses castle.

Celestia: *sweating violently*

@Kimberly Larkin But 2 celestias?<br>what if they run into each other

@Kimberly Larkin But 2 celestias?
what if they run into each other

@Kimberly Larkin She probably tried that but realized that her double in the human world would interfere with that. Plus sunset wouldn't come near her

Celestia: sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat
Sweat
S W E A T

@°• Kendra_Editz •° when that's a real hashtag:

Next ep:
Starlight want sunburst and sunset met,back to Equestria
The mom: Sunset?

Tan tan tan Tannn

#Familyreunion

@Kimberly Larkin because people will think she's a imposter of the human celestia and also she would let sense choose probably and she would choose the human versions of the originals

Before starlight and her brother was born

Why doesn’t Celestia just go and get sunset herself? I mean, she’s the princess-


So I suppose it makes sense that Starlight and Sunset would initially not recognize each other, and that Starlight would have no prior knowledge of Sunset. But I find it hard to believe that Sunset would have no prior knowledge of Starlight .

I find it hard to believe that Sunset "rebelled" right away after she got sent to magic school. She would have been in communication with her folks for at least a year or two. She would have gotten letters mentioning Sunburst's friend, Starlight. She would have been old enough to have remembered reading these letters. (Maybe she skimmed them and chucked them into the trash, in a fit of rage.)

When Starlight first introduced herself in Mirror Magic, Sunset said, "Starlight Glimmer, you're Twilight's student," which implies that Sunset first learned of Starlight through letters from Princess Twilight.

If this fan theory were true, Sunset wouldn't have said that. She most likely would've said, "Starlight Glimmer, you're Sunburst's friend," or maybe ask in passing, "Do you know my younger brother, Sunburst?" By that point, Sunset was reformed, and had less bitter feelings towards her family, so she would have no problem with recognizing Sunburst as her younger brother.

Nonetheless, you always deliver very compelling fan theories and this is no exception.

So I suppose it makes sense that Starlight and Sunset would initially not recognize each other, and that Starlight would have no prior knowledge of Sunset. But I find it hard to believe that *Sunset* would have no prior knowledge of *Starlight* .

I find it hard to believe that Sunset "rebelled" right away after she got sent to magic school. She would have been in communication with her folks for at least a year or two. She would have gotten letters mentioning Sunburst's friend, Starlight. She would have been old enough to have remembered reading these letters. (Maybe she skimmed them and chucked them into the trash, in a fit of rage.)

When Starlight first introduced herself in Mirror Magic, Sunset said, *"Starlight Glimmer, you're Twilight's student,"* which implies that Sunset first learned of Starlight through letters from Princess Twilight.

If this fan theory were true, Sunset wouldn't have said that. She most likely would've said, *"Starlight Glimmer, you're Sunburst's friend," or maybe ask in passing, "Do you know my younger brother, Sunburst?"* By that point, Sunset was reformed, and had less bitter feelings towards her family, so she would have no problem with recognizing Sunburst as her younger brother.

Nonetheless, you always deliver very compelling fan theories and this is no exception.


If you wanna get really deep with a theory of why Sunset Shimmer's name never came up in conversation from Sunburst or the rest of his family, can't rule out S.M.I.L.E. getting involved and removing their memories of her. Maybe an act of shame and fear of others involvement of Celestia's mistake.


Another detail to add why sunset may not have recognized starlight was for when she had her memories taken by the memory stone. Sunset took the blast intended for her friends and the first name she called out was Princess celestia. Which could imply sunset didn't interact with too many ponies and wouldn't have known about starlight.


Personally, I think it's more likely that Sunset would be an ancestor of Sunburt's family, like a sibling to a direct relative. Specifically, I find the difference in time frames between worlds off putting. The Sirens were sent to the humanoid world during the time of Starswirl, and yet they are high-school age, Sunset has only recently taken over the school despite going there years ago in Equestria's time. Sunset may not be many generations past, but she definitely seems more likely to be from a time before Sunburst and Starlight.


Yes I always thought sunset and sunburst were related and honestly seeing the evidence puts me at ease about StarBurst ship being possibly canon.
The brother of my favorite EQ girl my second favorite pony next to Trixie getting together is great.
While yes I would still prefer Startrix.
Second best ship next to the obvious but ay if the possible brother of sunset can make starlight happy then so am I.

Are you a big fan of MLP & MLP EG?
Why don't you watch this one 😍👇🏻
https://youtu.be/jZr7gpcNDb4


I would love to see both Sunset Shimmer and Sunburst react to this.


Huh very interesting theory! I hadn’t made a mental connection between the two characters but it is possible! Great video!


I do have a couple hypotheses about Sunset Shimmer. The first one being that, she's actually the Sunset from the Equestria Girls realm, and she had accidentally stumbled into Equestria through the portal at a very young age, but when she did, right before she could make a return to her world, the portal closed, and she thought she had no way back. So, after being found in the castle by Celestia, she was taken under Celestia's tutalage, and taught much about the world of Equestria, but when she was denied to learn more about Equestria and magic, she took matters into her own hooves/hands, and learned knowledge she was not supposed to yet, and came to learn of the mirror's ability to become a gateway, learning she could go back, and after feeling betrayed by Celestia, made a dash through the portal, plotting a return for vengeance.

The other hypothesis I have is that Sunset Shimmer was actually a ward of Celestia's. A few reasons I say this I will explain. During the choose your own ending short for "Wake Up Sunset" right at the beginning Sunset says "Five more minutes Princess Celestia. I don't want to go to magic school."  Now, you may think at first, this was the scene of many students at Celestia's school. But then, when you think about it, there are some other things to take into account. One thing is other episodes like "Twilight Seven" showed that Twilight did not stay at the school overnight while learning under Celestia. But some can argue that maybe few did stay at the castle, due to having come from other places outside of Canterlot. That is fair, but many places seem to be easily reachable in a few hours train ride at most, not counting Appaloosa, so that argument is debatable. Another thing to consider is that Celestia herself is a "princess". She has castle staff, like maids, butlers, as well as royal guards that could easily have been the ones to awaken Sunset and other students to get them ready for the day. But Celestia has gone out of her way to awaken Sunset Shimmer herself. That seems to indicate that there was a special bond Celestia and Sunset Shimmer once shared before Sunset rebelled against her teacher. Now, I'm not saying that Sunset Shimmer is Celestia's daughter, otherwise, I feel she'd be calling her mother. But, there may have been the off chance that Sunset was a ward to Princess Celestia. She was not claimed as Celestia's daughter, but she was taken under her wing. I know this sounds a tad dark to think about, but the fact that there was no comic or flashback Sunset's parents going ballistic that their daughter just up and ran away to another realm, does open that door for debate. And there was the scene in the special "Forgotten Friendship" where, when Sunset got her mind wiped by Wallflower, she was calling out for Princess Celestia. Not her family.

This is all hypothesis mind you, so I can't say it's set in stone that this was the case for Sunset's origins that led to her going to the Equestria Girls realm. But what do you think of my hypotheses?

@Craft _ Motion At this point anything is possible. Evidence can't prove or disprove if Sunset is the EQG realm Sunset or the Pony realm Sunset. Hasbro never clued us in at all.

@RayzerSun I would say that is a fair argument, but Sunset did also mention in the Movie Magic episode, where pony Starlight went with her to the EQG realm, that she hasn't bumped into Starlight's EQG counterpart, which would imply that Sunset is pretty sure every character has a counterpart on the other side of the mirror, so this would stand to reason that Micro Chip may have a pony counterpart in the Pony Realm. And to me, this implies that Sunset knows she has a counterpart, and has just taken the necessary steps to avoid the two of them meeting up. And with the fact that EQG does not show the same timeline in the order of events that played out (ex: Shining Armor and Cadence aren't married or have a baby named Flurry Heart) Sunset not showing up at CHS is a reasonable outcome........ if the Sunset we all know is not the human Sunset. (No one can really prove or disprove Sunset we all know is or is not the EQG realm counterpart of Sunset, no matter how much evidence we throw one way or the other to be honest.)

Sorry for my rambling, but holding back reasoning like this sometimes isn't a good thing for me to bottle up.

My theory is that not everybody/pony has a counterpart in the the other world. I mean look at Micro Chip. The guy's name came from technology and we all know Equestria's a fantasy world. There's several other people in CHS that dont have pony counterparts

I dont think that our Sunset is the human Sunset because if she was a human, we would definitelly she the pony. And maybe the actual human Sunset and also Sunburst doesn't exist because their parents have never married

@RayzerSun Well, I like to explain it in best detail so people aren't asking me a million questions about how my hypotheses would work.

A little off the rails but a good theory


Impressive theory. For the pass few months id assumed sunset and sunburts were siblings till ive seen this. I can only imagine how the series and story line couldve been like if this was considered to be true if luarn decided to not end the series so soon


there’s one thing i haven’t seen anyone discuss yet— sunset shimmer came from equestria, and went INTO the human universe. If twilight and the others have alternate universe versions of themselves, where’s sunset’s? To my knowledge, we haven’t seen or heard anything about her.


The idea that similar coat colors is a valid basis for familial relationships is ridiculous.
Purple Twilight and white Shining Armor.
White Celestia and dark blue Luna.
Green Granny Smith and red Big Mac and orange Applejack and yellow Applebloom.

Is it possible Sunset is related to Sunburst? Yes, but if one of the legs this theory stands on is kicked out, does it still hold up?

Exactly I wrote about this in my comment too I'm not showing hate to sawtooth at all its just that there is no actual evidence that they could be related because of this


The Sunset and Sunburst being siblings theory is a very interesting one. And you have some valid and plausible points too Sawtooth. But you can also have a theory of Sunset and Sunburst being cousins. So Sunburst mum and one of Sunset's parents, for example Sunset's mother, is the big sister of Sunburst mother. Both mothers know that their children are talented unicorns. To see which one of the fillies was the most talented, both sisters pushed their kids in Celestia's school of magic. Unfortunately both of the Sun family kids were drop outs. One, although very talented, her attitude was quite bad and therefore she was expelled from Celestia's school. The other had the better mentality/personality but wasn't that talented as his niece. So both Sun Family kids went into oblivion. Till their situation was revived in the Equestria Girls series (Sunset Shimmer) and the Sunburst stories within FiM. Unfortunately we will never know the real/official outcome, but it would have been a total blast to have a series where Sunset Shimmer and Sunburst are forced to work together and combine their magical talents against a very strong magical Equestrian villain.


Maybe to a video on "Pinkies Pie's Brother" she actually mentioned she had one in an episode of pony life. (It's probably not cannon but still interesting)

@chris freeman I agree (even though I have never seen or heard of what your talking about) but it’s not an official add on to the series (i don’t think) it could be a show made for entertainment if someone is caught up with the real series and if there are just some little differences in this series it’s not as reliable as a source (I again don’t know the show so idk if I would actually think that if I watched it so idk)

@Zoe Hutchinson actually, his name is Octavio, according to the Pony Life Wiki

@Zoe Hutchinson obsidian? That just reminds me of Obsidian Minkie Pie By Reitanna seishin🤭

Pony life is the funny side of mlp friendship is magic, but still it would be awesome if swatooth waves could make a video on it

Foxki! The White fox[pastel queenz]KITTY FAN

@Eva Undertale no not G5. G4.5. There is a difference.<br>G5 will be a whole seperate thing.

@Eva Undertale no not G5. G4.5. There is a difference.
G5 will be a whole seperate thing.

@Cameo Shadowness wait Pony Life is g5 wow I thought it was gonna be something else

But that's a different show entirely, like a different universe. Is it not possible for a version of you to have a sibling born in another dimension, but not born in your home dimension? Surely not every single solitary being in one universe has another version of themselves in every single other part of the multiverse? Come to think of it, is it possible that a Sunset Shimmer was simply never born in the Equestria girls universe and that's why Sunset never met another her? All it would take is for a couple to get together and have kids together in one universe, and either never meet, remain single, or marry and have kids with someone else in another universe, or chose to have kids at a different time to produce someone that only exist in one other possiblity.

@alolanraichu No it isn't. It has its own sperate continuity. There are so many important details that bluntly prove it's a separate thing.

That’s even worse you make family fanfics

@HoneySauce I just make them up. I don't make them disgusting Ofc, I just make stuff up like "these two are married and they had a kid and they own a castle and live with their siblings" stuff like that

It can’t possible be canon pinkies cutie mark in the first episode is only a yellow ballon and not three ballons

Things that would also be amazing to look into would be the the Roller coaster of friendship Equestria girls episode thingy and the whole “Raijack” situation lmao and that whole thing with  “Flutterdash” Ik there isn’t much attention set on them but come on they are so cute just look at my profile pic💖but mostly the roller coaster episode with “raijack” because I’m generally confused abt what’s going on with them 😁😅

@alolanraichu  she/ he is not a fake fan i dont like pony life it takes the series we love and kinda throws it out the window pinkie has no brother in f.i.m he would have been there

I have the sudden urge to bring up a fan made 4th sister of Pinkie's<br>Obsidian Minkie Pie

I have the sudden urge to bring up a fan made 4th sister of Pinkie's
Obsidian Minkie Pie

I watched all of pony life season one and you meet pinkies bro. His name is obsidian

Pony Life is NOT canon to Friendship is Magic. PL is officially g4.5, a completely seperate off shoot of G4.

Turns out.. it's canon, but within its own world.


Hey, I love the leaves in your mane! They look really cool! :)


I love how he ends his theories in a dark tone and then quickly theres an up beat music


well...you make a really good point that sunset is related, and if sunset did grow up with a sibling that also could explain that she really fast pick the connection or the problem between gloria and her brother


I’m curious about who Tempest Shadow’s parents were

Me too! What if she is somehow related to Twilight. Like a distant cousin, or somthing?


The show is over so I am taking this as canon. There is no one to dissagree

@Infinite 2000 I agree that Luster Dawn is the daughter of Sunburst and Starlight.

Good now I can say Luster Dawn is the daughter of Starlight and Sunburst and NO ONE CAN PROVE ME WRONG NOW

@poptart cat <del>Rips you in half and goes through you</del> I disagree with this video theory.

@poptart cat -Rips you in half and goes through you- I disagree with this video theory.

Anyone who disagrees has to go through <i>me</i>

Anyone who disagrees has to go through _me_

@HoneySauce what I meant was,sincethe show is over there won't be any new episodes to prove this wrong. So, till its proven wrong, witch I dout it will, anyone can decide for themselfs how they see this or any other theory. They can say well the show is over and I like this thetory so to me its canon. But to someone else it doesn't have to be.

That’s like if Taco Bell stoped serving a burrito and like 20 years later was like there was lettuce in that burrito it wouldn’t be true

Just because the show ended doesn’t means everything that’s been said it canon


i feel like there just needs to be a little more evidence for it to be canon. but for now it feels like it’s a very good theory. hopefully someone looks to see at tiny parts from sunset shimmer, starburst, and the mother have stuff of them. maybe it could be in the background of somewhere.


Sunburst relocated to Ponyville, where he ended up becoming the new vice-headstallion at  request, and  is now the head-mare for the Friendship School. Their first kid together is Twilight Sparkle's new student: Luster Dawn. Update!: Sunset and Sunburst are now cousins.


Problem is  that we don't have a timeline. There's evidence that starlight is older than sunset and vice versa or the same age. We also don't know when they were accepted into magics. We can't do firm or deny. If hasbro released confirmed ages, we would know if this is debunked or actually happened. Its such a cluster of things we can't figure out. Sunset left the academy before twilight but we know how young twilight was when she joined right? (We don't know the age but she's younger than the CMC) the thing is is that twilight and sunset are in the same grade in our world and it's highschool not college so we know they are the same grade. So we have no idea in age ranges. That's just one example


are they related?
i say there's not enough to say yes. and starlight and sunsets interactions sealed it for me, you may not remember a lot about the friends your little sibling had, but their name would be an "oh yea" (starlight may have a reason to not remember, sunset wouldn't). if they were related i think celestia would also have mentioned it after first dealing with sunset in EG, then with sunburst in the crystalling, then again with sunset in forgotten friendship. or sunset would have brought up her family when they were relatively relaxed in equestria in Spring Breakdown. or just in general after mirror magic when i think sunset and starlight would have kept in touch, where starlight would have talked about her best friend sunset at some point.
don't get me wrong i really like the results this theory would bring, but i don't think there's enough to support it, even if it may have been an idea toyed with.


As usual Sawtooth i agree with your theories and i know a lot of people have theorized that Sunburst might be Sunset Shimmer's brother, but since that was never officially confirmed and what not the chances of it being true are like 1 in a gazillion...at least that's how i see it.


I would love it if this rumor was true they both have sun in their name They could possibly be related In the show they don’t explain it or expand it on And I wish the series could’ve continued And had a season 10


The only thing that could condradict your theory truly would be weather you consider the comics canon or not to the show. Mainly because in a Christmas special EQG comic  sunset mentioned she had a sore relationship with her parents and , (not sure if I remember correctly again) she said they never celebrated Christmas and I doubt Sunburst's family was like that. This might hint at why she subconsciously took Celestia as a mother figure and model, more than anyone else, hence why she was mostly worried about her and apologised to her without thinking much about her real family when she returned. This might also make her actions in the beginning much more understandable since she might've been a child without parental affection or guidance in the early days, before joining Celestia's school . But that shouldn't cut entirely the ideea of Sunset and Sunburst being at least related.  But I might be wrong. Regarldess it's something worth checking out but I don't remember the name of the comic.

Edited: nv mind found it. Here you go  for who wants to check it out https://youtu.be/znO3p16EXjY


i've always wondered this, but wouldn't sunset have to have a human counter-part already existing in the human realm? she was a student in celestia's school which implied that she was born in equestria, so to this logic she should have a version of herself already existing, shouldn't she? if so, where is she?


The biggest argument against this is that Sunset never tries to see her family again. Even after the mirror is fixed, she sees Celestia, albeit reluctantly, but she never even attempts to see her parents or relatives. That indicates to me that she was an orphan.

I would have liked if there had been one scene, where she reminisced about a camping trip with her father before he died in a war or something similar. Somethign to settle these answers


this is a theory about how magic works in human world:<br>The humane 7 when they tranform  they're not taking the magic of frienship but instead they're are making connection with the spirits of the pony counterparts ,kind of like  the bond between Atem and Yugi were in the original YugiOh , but  not exactly when they played music the instruments it worked like the mellenium puzzle ,except twilight and Sunset they were directly attached to the elements of harmony,after the battle of the bands they were overwhelmed by magic so now all of them were directly attached to elements which it was very hard to control, it's the reason that in friendship games and legend of everfree the pony-ups became more random that's why after they recieved the crystals they were in control of their power(except that one short but they found a solution) and the  powers that they've   got are just a little piece of the true power,like Deku from My hero academia is only using 8% of one for all because his body is not ready,maybe Sunset recommended to not use them at 100% so the random pony ups will not happen ever again.And Swi-twi is connecting with the magic of princess twilight because she is still very new to the magic of friendship so she needs a little guidance in a battle that's why the pony twilight knew about sci-twi

this is a theory about how magic works in human world:
The humane 7 when they tranform  they're not taking the magic of frienship but instead they're are making connection with the spirits of the pony counterparts ,kind of like  the bond between Atem and Yugi were in the original YugiOh , but  not exactly when they played music the instruments it worked like the mellenium puzzle ,except twilight and Sunset they were directly attached to the elements of harmony,after the battle of the bands they were overwhelmed by magic so now all of them were directly attached to elements which it was very hard to control, it's the reason that in friendship games and legend of everfree the pony-ups became more random that's why after they recieved the crystals they were in control of their power(except that one short but they found a solution) and the  powers that they've   got are just a little piece of the true power,like Deku from My hero academia is only using 8% of one for all because his body is not ready,maybe Sunset recommended to not use them at 100% so the random pony ups will not happen ever again.And Swi-twi is connecting with the magic of princess twilight because she is still very new to the magic of friendship so she needs a little guidance in a battle that's why the pony twilight knew about sci-twi


A lot of people seem to theorize that they are cousins. And Sunset being Sunburst's cousin could also explain some things. Like, what if she was the daughter of Stellar Flare's sibling, who became so full of guilt and grief at Sunset's disappearance that Stellar decided to be there for her own child no matter what so she doesn't end up losing her son and feeling that same pain of her sibling


Thats a pretty nice theory, although wouldnt't we have already heard about Sunset shimmer's family by now? unless she just didn't want to share or never felt the need to, but idk... they could still be related not necessarily as sibilings, but maybe cousins? or perhaps even half-sibilings, idk just a thought


In the past I had the same theory, but Sunset was Starlight's sister... basically for the same reasons: the age: Sunset is some years older than Starlight and left home before Starlight could remember, and Starlight's father's reaction... like he treated Starlight like a kid for her to be safe... but mabey he didn't want her to go on a wrong path (we still don't know if he knows about the village) like Sunset.

But seeing your theory I remembered the 2's first encounter and you think Sunset would've recognized her.
Also I never thought about how well Sunset fits in the Sun family.

But then again about your theory:
Sunset has been in Equestria a couple of times after being redeemed... you think she'd visit her family.


The way how you mention Sunburst's mom feeling a sense of guilt inside of her when Sunset vanished felt really deeply real to me. So much so that this should have been <b>canon</b>

The way how you mention Sunburst's mom feeling a sense of guilt inside of her when Sunset vanished felt really deeply real to me. So much so that this should have been *canon*


For all to hear and consider this option
Clans of ponies theory, think about it since technically the Apple Family technically includes the Pear’s, and other fruits would there be other clans referring as to either a theme or based on appearances, think about the possibility of a Gothic group of ponies or to tie a loose end of the theory that Sunset and Sunburst are siblings, moreover I believe they could still be slightly related under the Sun or Solar clan. There’s so many other possible clans that could exist to tie in some of the characters together.
Please think about your responses before telling me that’s not likely but seriously think deep and not criticize the theory beforehand.


I'm surprised they haven't delved into sunset shimmer past more. She was a filly when she became celestia student. But never hint d at if she had mother or father. I personaly thought she was an orphan and celestia sensed sunset potential seeing as we don't know if she has parents or not.


I bet Sawtooth Waves was THE BEST student AT HISTORY in his school days ! This takes so much of effort  , Hats off to you 🎩🎩🎩


I have another theory related to yours. I do like to believe that they are siblings, but instead, are twins. I like to think that they had a "Parent Trap" scenario with them. Remember that Sunburst only has a mom? Maybe Sunset and Sunburst were twins separated at birth. Sunset went with her dad, while Sunburst stayed with his mom. And coincidentally, they ended up in the same school.

Also, was it ever confirmed by the show that "Sunspot" was Sunburst's dad?


Now this makes a lot of sense cause they both have “sun” in the name and have the same color.....too bad hasbro didn’t make that canon, if I became a writer for the show like that other brony did years ago I would so make it canon

Well, focus on the writing first not just the fan theories

@Joceyb23 but I do know he was responsible for one of the season 3 episodes I think it was “keep calm and flutter on”

@Joceyb23 I can’t remember....in fact I don’t know his name I just found out somewhere on YouTube

Who knows I or someone could do an audio drama story of that theory that be cool


0:25 Ok, but like-
That little huff of laughter is adorable


It is plausible but, you have to remember that Pinkie Pie does not look like any of her family. Although... it brings up another set of questions: Could Pinkie Pie be adopted? Or... Is the genetics in Equestria much different than we think due to magic being a factor? What do you think Sawtooth?


03:50 That emotional shift from "it's so sad" to "cheerful energetic youtuber outro" in his tone of voice tho.


if rhe five are present a spark is formed , look at it this way<br>we know sunset has a history for trickery . she could tell the main 5 in the human world all about the elements.and further more show them the portal when it is time ....she would get the crystals and back stab the 5 . I think you got ur answer saw tooth

if rhe five are present a spark is formed , look at it this way
we know sunset has a history for trickery . she could tell the main 5 in the human world all about the elements.and further more show them the portal when it is time ....she would get the crystals and back stab the 5 . I think you got ur answer saw tooth


If Sunset Shimmer is related to Sunburst, then I’d assume she’s more likely a distant cousin than a sibling. But the real question remains: where was Sunburst’s father during “The Parent Map”?

@ghostbehindthedoor Starlight's dad is not Sunburst's dad. In "The Cutie Re-Mark" when Starlight was telling Twilight her story with Sunburst. When Sunburst got his cutie mark he ran to show his mom and dad. Sunburst's dad was there.

Plot twist, Sunburts mother is Starlights mother and Starlights dad is Sunburts dad and they are twins without knowing.<br>This is not true and I know that please don't tell meh I'm wrong

Plot twist, Sunburts mother is Starlights mother and Starlights dad is Sunburts dad and they are twins without knowing.
This is not true and I know that please don't tell meh I'm wrong

Maybe sunburst’s father commented suicide because of stress of sunsets betrayal and stealer didn’t bring it up because it was painful for her to talk about. And for starlight’s mother? Probably died during child birth, and starlight’s father didn’t bring it up for the same reason.

Edit: I have a theory for the sunburst and sunset sibling thing,sunburst was a baby and sunset was a few year older than him, when sunset betrayed her parents and her teacher, stealer didn’t bring her up as sunburst grew up. So starlight glimmer not knowing who sunset was would be the reason.

@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot the stress of Sunset's betrayal to their Princess could have caused a divorce between them. Who knows or maybe he couldn't live with that guilt

There is also another question.<br>Where is Starlight's mother?

There is also another question.
Where is Starlight's mother?

@•purpxlina• Good point I completely forgot about that lol

@Infinite 2000 hmmm....but in the backstory of starlight, Sunburst parents are there even his father

@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot Well yeah  but atleast they left some clues for us to figure out AJ's parents are dead. They can just imply it by saying stuff like: "I miss dad/mom I wish he/she was here" or something like: "your dad/mom would've been so proud or you if he/she was here". Sentence like this can easily imply the death of the characters without having to say it in our faces. They did the same with AJ's parent. The fans knew that they were dead much before "the perfect pear" episode. They could've said the same lines in the "parent map". But who knows, mabye they are dead and Hasbro didn't want to make a big deal out of it. Now that the show is over, we will probably never get our answers

@Infinite 2000 Bro, Hasbro is allergic to the word “death”, Applejack’s parents are confirmed deceased but they have to imply it because the Execs would throw a hissy fit

Probably divorced before the kids were born. If they were dead then I'm pretty sure they would have talked about it in that episode

@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot mother right?

Either divorced or dead, same with Starlight’s mother.


I can't wait for your next collab with AnY again, considering he'll be different the next time you see him 😉


Element of guilt.... nice choice of words lol 🤣
Love your videos!!!
This thumbnail is just adorable!!


Alright that’s it, I love your theories, they make total sense....I’m subscribing 😌


Really good theory, but the thing that bugs me is, i dont think sunburst was at an age where he would understand that his sister`s failure is a sour, humiliating story and should be hidden. I think he would have said something abt having a sister considering the innocent phase he was at when he was friends with starlight. We`ll never know

@TriggerHappyEevee hmm could be like that

maybe not nessacarily that

but I think it'd be more along the lines of his mom just telling him not to talk about his sister ever, him at that age probably not understanding why, but complied with his mom's request


I think it adds so much more depth if they actually are bro and sis, and it makes ideally sense!


Ehhh...no... but I could see them being cousins, the full extended apple family prove commonality for cuties can be VERY wide spread. So I could see them having the same Grandparents on one side.


I had the same theory when we were introduced to sunburst as starlight fillyhood friend what made me suspect sunburst the most were the similar coat and mane but in my theory sunset missed her bro so much when she came to take the crown sunset went home by  teleporting when she was gonna teloport inside her greed for power stopped her and she wanted to teloported back to the room with the magic mirror in it but she now lost her touch with magic and was lucky enough to go to her home any way she got teloported to the hallway near to twilights room


I don't think it adds up. The Starlight factor puts too big of a dent in this theory- but I'm all for the cousin angle


Sunset really about to say: Ight imma leave my parents, little brother, and my whole exsistence 😊

Spanish Traduction 😘: “Sunset realmente está a punto de decir: ¿debo dejar a mis padres, a mi hermano pequeño y a toda mi existencia?”

@Layla Drawz <b>RUNS</b> iN THE FAMILY 😭😭😭

@Layla Drawz <br>This was supposed to be sad XDD

@Layla Drawz
This was supposed to be sad XDD

@Eredin Makitrz King Of Friendship i guess it runs in the family


Major problem you're working off of the assumption that EQG is part of the same canon universe as FiM. Just because events in FiM are canon to EQG, the other way around is not true<br>Also in your previous video about Luster Dawn, the interactions between Luster and Sunburst indicates that they are not related

Major problem you're working off of the assumption that EQG is part of the same canon universe as FiM. Just because events in FiM are canon to EQG, the other way around is not true
Also in your previous video about Luster Dawn, the interactions between Luster and Sunburst indicates that they are not related


It makes sense they could be siblings cause once Shimmer turned rebellious the mom could’ve never talked about her, also the reason why she wouldn’t talk about shimmer is because maybe she didn’t want her son to be influenced by bad behavior like shimmers.


Wouldn’t Starlight Glimmer have remembered her when they met in Mirror Magic?


“[annoying purple pony]”

Ofcourse. It’s always her

@Fantasy Of Lis that- doesnt just undo her history.. I'm not saying that villain characters shouldn't be favouritised or cant be redeemed, but personally I just dont see what charm she has

@Fantasy Of Lis didn’t she control a whole town, almost destroy the world, mind control pony’s, and try to lazed blast discord?

Nooooo! Starlight is the BEST MLP PONY!

(Sorry. But she's just a amazing pony. My personal favorite)


@Individual Cheerio np 😭🤠
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Can u help me?
Its k of no


Hey, Sawtooth, I have a weird question

Besides the rare occasions that you turn into another persons character  like, for instance, doctor Woolf    can you character transformed cross breeds?


Is no one gonna talk about how Twilight and Sunset literally have the same first AND last name but with different words!? Twilight and Sunset. Sparkle and Shimmer. I feel like they're the same pony since they both lead the same squad in their worlds.

@Terminator 156 successor. that's the word i was looking for. sorry, dutch, dyslectic and more then a little stupid at times.

well, sunset actually comes before twilight.<br>as did sunset shimmer come to celestias school and be the primary target to succeed  her before twilight sparkle.

well, sunset actually comes before twilight.
as did sunset shimmer come to celestias school and be the primary target to succeed  her before twilight sparkle.


Man i wish these theories didn't take so long to make. I want to see more.


Imagine if canonically, they were cousins instead. "Years of theorizing, wasted!"

@Amaya Kohli Technically, yes. I don't think it's in any official dictionary tho.

it could be posible tho it cant be also "dont be confused"


I have always thought about their resemblance (and their names) being similar


I've never thought of this. It's quite possible that Sunset could be related to Sunbirst


1:01 I get it cause Celestia is Princess of the Sun
1:42 Even Sunset got Starlight confused with Twilight just as Ember did, the are different but also similar, maybe they had to introduce themselves was that Starlight doesn't remember Sunset, cause as we, know Sunset was probably sent to Celestia's school after she got her Cutie Mark, just like Sunburst, or was chosen by Celestia just like Twilight, and at that time he was probably young, that he may had made friends with Starlight after Sunset left for Celestia's School of Magic


That's my headcanon, alright.<br>Plus, time moves differently between the 2 worlds. That's why Sunset is still in highschool despite Equestria going through multiple HearthsWarmings. I can't wait for a reunion.

That's my headcanon, alright.
Plus, time moves differently between the 2 worlds. That's why Sunset is still in highschool despite Equestria going through multiple HearthsWarmings. I can't wait for a reunion.


I Honestly always had a Theory that they could be Related. But i just Didn’t have Enough to prove it. Am glad am not the only one who has this theory!


OMG! The synchronicity! Today, mother just got me the MLP mag, with Sunset and I just happened to have her likely brother(?) with Trixie on the mantle peice and I just put her next to Trixie and she's wedged between the likely siblings(?)!


I can’t get over how much I love the intro! 😆


But this all changed in season 8, with an episode called…. ... The thing with this episode is, we learn that very much like , her (possible) brother, , has a  dynamic with his parents (or at least, only his mom, who we now know as Stellar Flare) as well.Mar 4, 2018


That is a good theory however that’s not the case as far as appearances goes. Celestia and Luna looks completely different, but they are related. The same goes with Twilight and Shining Armor.


This was a theory I didn’t know I needed


It's a nice theory, but has one major flaw. In the movie Forgotten Friendship, when Wallflower erased Sunset Shimmer's memories, she did not scream for Sunburst. As a sister, one of the first people I would scream for is my brother. Sunset doesn't even scream for her parents. She screams for Celestia. Also, we've seen the inside of Sunbursts house, yet there is nothing to remember Sunset by. So no, while I like the theory, I don't believe Sunset Shimmer is related to Sunburst


I think she is. She looks more like her dad, Sunset has that yellow stripe in her hair, and it almost looks identical to Solar Wind’s skin tone. She also has some red in her hair.

❣ʟɪᴛᴛʟᴇ ʀᴀsᴄᴀʟ❣


It's all, so clear now but..why haven't we seen them in any episodes where they see each other again? Maybe a new season? Who knows maybe the MLP creators will see this vid and make a vid of it? THAT WOULD BE AWSOME!!!


Hey Sawtooth, I had a request for a video. There's something that always bothered me about the Equestria girls series. Since Sunset Shimmer came from Equestria, there had to be another Sunset Shimmer in the human world. So...where is she?


Completely unrelated to the video. But I have questions I need answers to. So, spike is a baby dragon throughout the show with secret of my excess being an exception. But in the last episode of season 9 he looks like a teenage dragon. Does his greed get the best of him? Or did twilight use magic to age him? Or any other third option. I would love feed back so leave your options 🙂


Sorry, but this was debunked. We saw how much of a loving, dotting parent Sunburst's mother was. The writers revealed that Sunset's parent's were very neglectful of her and only saw her as a way to promote themselves when she became Celestia's student (this warped way of being raised likely contributed to her going bad). In the EQG comic, Sunset herself says that she was never close to her parents.


If a season 10 ever happens, we could see more about family trees.


Well your theory might in fact be true because sunset and sunburst both have sun in there names, they also each have the same color iris and coat and their both unicorns. Not to mention their markings have the resemblance of a sun


Nobody:
Literally not a single soul:
Celestia every time someone becomes her enemy: off to brazil you go

Nobody:
Literally not a single soul:
Celestia every time someone becomes her enemy: *off to brazil you go*

𝓜𝓮 𝔀𝓪𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓮 100𝓽𝓱 𝓵𝓲𝓴𝓮 𝓾𝔀𝓾

𝓜𝓮 𝔀𝓪𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓮 100𝓽𝓱 𝓵𝓲𝓴𝓮 𝓾𝔀𝓾

she tries to be the best ruler she could be, but she often failed. having to fall back on brute force instead of actually solving the problem. that's why twilight actually improves things. she may always appear perfect, but she never was, setup in the very first episode.


Why is no one talking about the fact that Luster Dawn's parents could be sunburst and twilight?
I mean isn't twilight a type of day?
And twilight could have been so caught up in her royal duties to the point where sunburst had to take care of Dawn full time?


This is so cool and I love his animations. And why did the my little pony makers make sunset and sunburst the same? And I truly understand why they probably haven’t talked about sunset after what she did. But why haven’t they talked yet? Why can’t sunset just come back to equestria to spend time with family if they are family? Why can’t starlight just tell sunburst about her? Good lord I have a lot of questions...


I would like to say, that sunset shimmer might be the sister of sunburst, cutie marks, personality, and also wants to know more about magic. But how do we make the theory real, we'll need proof. Ofc sunset never had a backstory about her parents, but we gotta dig deeper, we also need more clues, apparently I haven't seen any much, so I'm guessing we need to know more info.<br>That's all, see ya!

I would like to say, that sunset shimmer might be the sister of sunburst, cutie marks, personality, and also wants to know more about magic. But how do we make the theory real, we'll need proof. Ofc sunset never had a backstory about her parents, but we gotta dig deeper, we also need more clues, apparently I haven't seen any much, so I'm guessing we need to know more info.
That's all, see ya!


Nice job you know when generation 5 comes out You should make theories on that show too


Mlp genetics are bucked.

I’ve always found it strange that characters that have never even met look more related than characters that are. Like Misty Fly, Dr. Fauna, a character that according to wikia is called Amethyst Gleam, and Coco Pommel— or Sweetie Drops and Blueberry Swirls (green sweater mare), or even Oaknut and Butternut from The Best Gift Ever (who look more related to one another than what they do to their son), Cheese Sandwich, and Grand Pear, or Flim & Flam, Strawberry Sunrise, and Apple Bloom & Bright Mac (they are some of the few that look and are related, but of course Pear Butter’s colour scheme messes up with how Big Mac and AJ have their colour schemes).

As much as I love this—the story line mostly—but because it’s MLP, the “similar colour schemes” point can’t really be taken into consideration without every other character that has similar, if not identical, colour schemes. It really makes you wonder how Flim and Flam have apple cutie marks…

Mlp genetics are _bucked._

I’ve always found it strange that characters that have never even met look more related than characters that are. Like Misty Fly, Dr. Fauna, a character that according to wikia is called Amethyst Gleam, and Coco Pommel— or Sweetie Drops and Blueberry Swirls (green sweater mare), or even Oaknut and Butternut from _The Best Gift Ever_ (who look more related to one another than what they do to their son), Cheese Sandwich, and Grand Pear, or Flim & Flam, Strawberry Sunrise, and Apple Bloom & Bright Mac (they are some of the few that look and are related, but of course Pear Butter’s colour scheme messes up with how Big Mac and AJ have their colour schemes).

As much as I love this—the story line mostly—but because it’s MLP, the “similar colour schemes” point can’t really be taken into consideration without every other character that has similar, if not identical, colour schemes. It really makes you wonder how Flim and Flam have apple cutie marks…


the timing is perfect Celestia said "when she did not get what she liked she grew colder" so what if one of sunset's wishes was to get her brother back into magic school?


Makes a lot of sense if you think about it also what it could have happened is the fact that maybe the parents divorced and one was raised in one part of the country and one was raising another and so that's probably why they don't talk to each other


I haven’t seen your channel in forever but no doubt this is a really good theory


It makes total sense that sunset and sunburst are siblings,but i think in another theory why sunburst didn't tell starlight, first sunburst probably didn't really had a strong bond with sunset,maybe because he didn't spend time with her,and also the fact she dissapeared.Probably sunburst felt really guilty too,because he didn't enjoy his Sister while he had her.

He left his best friend and had no time for Sunset. He was hurting my two the best ponies. Poor Starlight and Sunset. I can't like Sunburst seriously.


The brony community is amazing<br>Even mlp has already ended their theories still goes on which makes mlp still alive

The brony community is amazing
Even mlp has already ended their theories still goes on which makes mlp still alive


Imagine if mlp actually came onto yt and found your channel and confirmed every theory! :0


What if, with Sunset, her mother was over ambitious, pushing her too hard to achieve! That would cause more guilt and explane Sunsets drive.


I love your videos! 😍 I love that they are on my little pony! They are so fun! I love the one where you said " What are you hiding granny?" In the one with Apple Jacks parents!


If we take the Equestria Girl Holiday Special Comic into account then Sunset does not remember her parents. Though this might have been a result of the Elements of Harmony or her transformation.


Well, there was a comic about Christmas and in there Sunset mentioned saying that she and her family were never really close, of course I'm not certain that the comics are canon but it could be something to think about


I checked the internet and Sunset shimmer’s mum is Scarlet Fireglow and her dad is Eclipse deSol

But maybe sunset shimmer and sunburst are related like cousins??? Or relatives

Well even if this was canon, her father's name "Eclipse" might explain her character bad to good. In alchemy, when a solar eclipse occurs, its sort of erasing the impurities until its fully good as new, like Sunset's redemption.

Also, COMPLETELY unrelated, solar eclipses also symbolizes...

celestial sex

Well even if this was canon, her father's name "Eclipse" might explain her character bad to good. In alchemy, when a solar eclipse occurs, its sort of erasing the impurities until its fully good as new, like Sunset's redemption.

Also, *COMPLETELY* unrelated, solar eclipses also symbolizes...

celestial sex

@Shame is lame trust me, any parents you find are just ocs. I checked.

@Jokerlyzer Media I didn’t know I just saw on the internet so thx for telling
I think sunset shimmer and sunburst are cousins or siblings

Edit: Ok now i’m more comfused I checked the internet again and it says A few pony like wallflower blush? ( probaly not true ofc ) that says they’re her parents

Update: ATTENTION! NO ONE BELIEVE THIS COMMENT!! SCARLET FIREGLOW AND ECLIPSE DESOL ARE <b>*OCS*</b> FROM DEVIANTART!!! THEY ARE NOT REAL CHARACTERS AND THE NAMES AREN'T REAL EITHER!!! I FOUND THEM ON DEVIANTART. All we know canon Wise is that her household was NOT warm and positive!

Update: ATTENTION! NO ONE BELIEVE THIS COMMENT!! SCARLET FIREGLOW AND ECLIPSE DESOL ARE **OCS** FROM DEVIANTART!!! THEY ARE NOT REAL CHARACTERS AND THE NAMES AREN'T REAL EITHER!!! I FOUND THEM ON DEVIANTART. All we know canon Wise is that her household was NOT warm and positive!

Where did you find this info? Prove it please with a link.


Now that you've said it, they do look really simliar all together I'm surprised


I think its the reason why sunburst studied books for years to try find a way to get back her sister but after knowing that her sister is just in other world he started making friends and less studies


yeah that could be true but i have another theory  that sunset was a part of the family. when she left to celestia"s school  sunburst was born and at that time sunset could have traveled the portal to the human world and sunburst could have never ever known he had a sister as his mother never told him because of her guilt


Maybe he did mention her and just didn't specify her too much I mean there would be no reason for Starlight to just assume this random pony from the mirror was her brother's realative or she could have just forgotten it if he didn't mention her name or anything plus if she was away I guess she wouldn't come up much in their playtime. Also Sunset Shimmer seemed pretty independent so what if he just forgot about her and she just didn't make contact I could totally see her younger self not wanting a sibling in the first place.


I think sunset is Sunburst's elder sister, but Sunset is 18 in Equestria Girls 10. If this is the case, then Princess Twilight and Starlight are 16. So is Sunburst. The fact Sunset is studious and smart, that makes her similar to her brother. And well... if she was Sunburst's sister, she'd probably be 2-3 years older than him


Plus, we when meet the sibling characters? We never get any mention on them. So while I definitely think they're siblings, I can understand not bringing it up. For good or bad reasons


Speaking of Sunset, what ever happened to her human counterpart?

@Camp Gravity sorry about that. I was talking about Starlight. As for if there was a human Sunset then like in the first movie she would probably be a full on book worm studying all that there is on dark magic.

@CelestiaFan Forever Sunset Shimmer of Starlight Glimmer? Cause I think Starlight would be leading a cult and Sunset would be studying dark magic

She doesn't exist because sunset is from earth,not Equestria

We never know where mlp Sunset was born
Who was born in Pony Ville was Equestria high
Twilight was born in Canterlot so she studied in another school
Starlight is born far away from Pony ville so she is far away from Equestria High

It's officially doesn't exist. It's confirmed not all ponies have human version and not all people have pony counterpart. <br>Fun fact: in early Friendship Games ideas. Human Sunset would appear as teacher in the highschool prep but this idea got rejected because it wouldn't really affect the plot

It's officially doesn't exist. It's confirmed not all ponies have human version and not all people have pony counterpart.
Fun fact: in early Friendship Games ideas. Human Sunset would appear as teacher in the highschool prep but this idea got rejected because it wouldn't really affect the plot

If human twilight lived in mother town then I'm sure human sunset may be similar.

@The flying spaghetti monster I feel like every pony should, but it’s up to the writers and fans to decide

@Camp Gravity  But doesn’t every pony have a human counterpart

Ya I always wonder that but I have a theory ;; As sunset was send to Celestia’s school for her magic incapabilities  but in the human world there was no magic they could actually use and the magic of friendship dint work like “ RAINBOW MAGIC!” so yeah.. I also added a better version on the normal video chat so yeah check that out but that’s my theory

@Vinx.909 I didn’t really think of that, and yes I understand what you mean by their reactions. They also calm themselves in different ways like how Sunset like to do art, but Starlight’s not very good at calming down besides when flying kites.

@Camp Gravity (sorry in advance for a fucking huge message)
are sunset and starlight that similar? they move in similar ways, but they seem pretty different in key ways. the one i have directly in my head (because it's the part of characterisation i've recently noticed and now to try identify everywhere) is their downs: how do they react when things are not going their way and are at or over their breaking point? (for example pinkies hair goes flat and she basically start acting like a depressed person, not having energy for anything. or how twilight will panic aka start twilighting)
starlight will take control in any manor possible. in the cutie-map where the uniqueness of sunburst made him move away so she gave herself control over uniqueness so that wouldn't happen again, but even after that she'll still make errors in taking control in some extreme manor, like in every little thing she does where the controls her friends or all bottled up where she forces her emotions under control.
sunset on the other hands lashes out way more. after reforming she'll still get angry, groan extremely noticeably, vent anger towards no one and sometimes lashing out. (somehow i fail to explain it better. this shows it quite well though https://youtu.be/jTwpESnu2mk. twilight gets exasperated, sunset gets angry)
so while i like them in a similar manor i think they are rather distinct with unique ways of handling things. i don't feel like their the others equivalent.

where does sunset live? everyone else has a family to stay at.

@Camp Gravity maybe. Also if yall want to check this, it was on twitter, but I cant remember the writter who said that.

@Suncopper I was thinking that and that seems right. Starlight and Sunset are also very similar, maybe there is no Starlight counterpart cause Sunset takes the role instead?

They asked one of the writters of the show and he said that Sunset was meant to be there all along so human Sunset will never and never did exist.

She probably lives in an another city/town or something like that.

Maybe something ... dark happened to her.


This really makes sense and it's amazing but I also wonder that now if sunset is all okay and has reunited with celestia then at least she can take a look back and see her brother N parents?  Like u know that's what I guess gotta happen or at least sunburst see's her ...<br>But yeah that sure was awsome (20%) xD

This really makes sense and it's amazing but I also wonder that now if sunset is all okay and has reunited with celestia then at least she can take a look back and see her brother N parents?  Like u know that's what I guess gotta happen or at least sunburst see's her ...
But yeah that sure was awsome (20%) xD


If that's the case. Maybe Sunset will one day return to see her family again. To tell them that she's doing alright. We'll see.


I have to ask. How do you come up with these amazing theroies.


This isn't the first time I heard of something like this. I also heard a theory of shining armor and vinyl/dj pon, or what ever her name is.


I agree with this theory. I think it makes a lot of sense. If it’s true, I hope Sunset reunites with Sunburst and the rest of her family.🦄🤩👨👩👧👦❤


If Sunset was THAT small when she left to join Celestia's school Sunburst would have joined the school before she rebelled. Cause she rebelled when she was about Twilight's age. So she was at the school for quite some time between being like Applebloom size and Twilight size. Meaning that Sunburst had time to grow from baby to little foal. Therefore he would have joined the school whole she was still there.

But that means that he knows her.......hm


No.  He was impressed that Starlight was a protégé of a princess. Would he be impressed if his sister had done that?<br>I'm not impressed by lawyers because my father and sister are both lawyers.

No.  He was impressed that Starlight was a protégé of a princess. Would he be impressed if his sister had done that?
I'm not impressed by lawyers because my father and sister are both lawyers.

maybe they all had their memories changed so they don't remember Sunset

@Sawtooth Waves I was under the impression that Sunset (as well as Twilight) were both at some point elevated above "just one of Celestia's students" to becoming protégé of Celestia, above her classmates.

interesting point! but i see a difference, celestia had many students that she taught, whereas starlights training was one on one.


i have believed this theory for awhile and always will it's part of my MLP world.


all mlp theories you make about characters and their family and relationships make so much sens idk fi there real or not tbh i would have to agree with you


Why is that when I read  the name of your videos, I am almost always skeptic about it. But when you explain it, it always makes so much sense? XD


Ever since I saw Sunburst I always thought he looked really similar to Sunset Shimmer and kinda thought they might be realted


When starlight meet sunset for the first time she had no idea who sunset was. And considering sunburst and starlight were childhood friends I'm pretty sure starlight would've meet sunset atleast a few times


What i always asked myself is ,  if there is a human version of twilight in eg, what happened to the human version of sunset?


I love the fact that you’re the changeling you can change into any form


Celestia: It's over, Sunset!! I have the alicorn wings and high ground!!
Sunset: You underestimate my power!!
Celestia: Don't try it!!
What happens next??.........


it would be nice if your videos had Portuguese subtitles. ; -; here in Brazil do not have these theories


I love this theory, and yes I do think that they’re brother and sister. They’re both hotheads lol.


I am kind of against and with this because of a few family’s in the mane six and beyond. Twillight Sparkle’s brother, Shining Armour, is related to Twillight even though they look nothing alike, same with AppleJack and her sister, AppleBloom, and her brother, BigMac.

But this doesn’t really go with how Rarity and her sister, SweetyBell, would be related, they look almost alike, with the only differences in their mains. The same would probably go for FlurryHeart, who has almost the same main as her mother, Princess Cadence and the skin as her father, Shining Armour.

Coming to think of it, Twillight Sparkle looks nothing like her parents either. Granny Smith would have gave birth to AppleJack’s mother or father but I don’t see how AppleJack, BigMac or AppleBloom would have the same blood as Granny Smith as they don’t have any signs of being related.

My theory on this topic is that some Unicorns/Pegasus/Earth Ponies/Alicorns can’t give birth to offspring so they get an alternative by adopting the next generation and raise them without them knowing that they were not related by blood.

Evidence is there to support this from Shining Armour’s family tree along with Twillight Sparkle and the siblings parents. So it starts off with Twillight Sparkle and Shining Armour’s parents giving birth to them. The mother has light grey skin, a purple and white main, blue eyes and the CutieMark of three purple stars. The father has blue skin, a darker blue main, yellow eyes and the CutieMark of a small white moon beside a larger yellow moon. The two parents are unicorns and they ‘gave birth’ to ‘two’ unicorns which has no surprise there as Twillight only EARNED her wings to become an alicorn. What makes this take a turn is their physical appearances and CutieMarks, Twillight has purple skin but didn’t physically inherit this from her parents, she also has a dark purple, violet and pink main. Twillight also has purple eyes which could not be inherited from her parents as neither have purple eyes or can be mixed to form purple eyes. Maybe Shining Amour could have as he has white skin, blue eyes and a main that could be from his father, but for Twillight, she cannot b related to Shining Amour or her parents.

What I am saying is that what if SunsetShimmer and SunBurst were related, but not as siblings, as cousins? Sunburst got his skin colour and colour of his hooves from his mother and that mark on his face from his father. His eye colour may have been mixed (his father’s eye colour is purple and his mother’s eye colour is lime or green?, when they are both mixed, they may form a teal which is Sunburst’s eye colour). His main could also be mixed (his father’s main is orange and his mother’s main is reddish-orange, both mixed would form the colour of Sunburst’s main). When we look at Sunset Shimmer, we can see a few errors like the yellow highlights and bright red main and green eyes. It can be coincidental that they have the same skin colour and topic of their CutieMarks.

Now if we say that I’m wrong and that Sunset is related to Sunburst, we can support that from the skin colour being similar and the topic of their CutieMark being the same.

But I support that SunBurst and SunsetShimmer are related but are not siblings, they may be cousins.

Also: please make a video on if parents can’t have children as their offspring, they would adopt (it’s a pretty good topic to discuss on and I would really like if you could add to it), thank you.

• Kïtšütåtśhį •


no, the ages in the equestria girls should be applied. sunset and twilight are equal ages. if she were older she would be similar age to twilight's brother.


Sunbirst lools likes a gender swap version of sunset


Same eye color. ✔
Same coats. ✔
Same/similar manes. ✔
Similar cutie marks. ✔
Cutie marks involving a sun. ✔
Name involving the word sun. ✔


1:19 This picture is really adorable!! 😌😌


I'm gonna be honest when I was little I used to think that Princess Celestia was Sunset Shimmer's mother. I live to regret thinking that.


in the first movie with sunset shimmer her horn magic is blue but when she meets starlight its red.

Why did they change it, the blue worked so good with sunsets color palette!!


Hmm the theory is good and definitely could be right but just because they look similar and stuff doesn't mean they are related cause if you take a look at twilight and her family they don't look a lot alike if you didn't know who twilight's parents were you wouldn't really guess it was shining armors parents so there is really no telling if they could be related besides a very very very strong evidence, just my opinion hope you take it into consideration.


Does anyone else notice that in ‘my past is not today’ it’s just before sunset when Sunset starts singing but it’s sunrise when she finishes, just how long was she singing for, or is time just that weird in that universe


Please make a video about what happened to Sunburst's father, it would be a great video :D


another reason sunburst doesnt mention sunset, or his father for that matter, is the possibility that his parents divorced.


"Mom where's sister shimmer?"
Celestia "YOU ARE OUT OF LINE!"
"Having fun with the princess dear."


Maybe they are siblings and she left when he was too young to remember her and their parents just refuse to talk about her and hide her photos


That is a great  theory and I would totally agree that sunset shimmer is his brother.


Hi sawtooth can you do a video on cozy glows parents? Maybe sven Gala

Edit: Also sawtooth great job!!! Luv ur vids

In fimfiction there is a series from Silvermyr. The first one called A letter to father, the second one is A visit from mother. The dad is Sven G. in them, and a mom someone we knew from the show too. I can recommend to read this fics, if you're interested.


I believe starlight and sunset are sisters and for the time they met I believe they could have never really met or forgot each other because of being distracted by their own lives. reasons there names sunset and star light are both kinda related and shimmer and glimmer are the same thing and also rhyme. Also if sunset is a few years older (for them not knowing each other story) sunset is always before starlight. Coincidence, I think not!!!

If they never met, how could they be sisters? 😂How would someone forget that they have a sibling?

Sorry for the really long comment I get carried away with all the story’s or add on to story’s I make if I don’t make a long comment about stories it’s usually about helping gg people and animals or just animals


I would like to see Sunset and Sunbrust together


Sounds reasonable. Because Luster looks nothing like Starligth. But yes to Sunburts.

There may be a probability that there is a relationship.


Wait a minute... if you think about it  maybe Sunset is related to Celestia and Luna, like sisters or something. It would make sense since Luna would represent the night, Celestia the morning/day and Sunset the sunset xd. It could also be why she was so go at magic and why she was Celestias student, Celsetia probably wanted her to become a alicorn 2 bcs of that.


THATS SUCH A GOOD THEORY- IF IT WAS ACTUALLY REAL-

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Unless of course sunset was already gone before sunburst is born then we can erase the starlight problem.


Wait. I haven’t seen the video yet but This actually makes a lot of sense. They look similar and have names that have to do with the sun