I Heard somewhere about this topic it said " <b>The world treated Joker badly so he decided to treat it the same The world treated Batman badly so he decided that no one will be treated like he was</b> "

I Heard somewhere about this topic it said " *The world treated Joker badly so he decided to treat it the same The world treated Batman badly so he decided that no one will be treated like he was* "

this is the cringiest comment thread of all time

@JumpVelocity I'm not being edgy. Just calling out bs when I see it.

@Ashcool don’t cut yourself on that edge

@Паша Шабанов I think everyone could be like that, not should.

I don't lack empathy, im sure of it because im usually the one who try to help others in need.

I can't put myself in people shoes, I think you can understand me since "normal" people cannot do the same for me.

The problem with what I say is that im sure it's true in some way, but I have nothing to prove it.

@Zoey Okay, sorry if I misunderstand you, but based of what you said in this comment section these are your beliefs:
1) Protecting society ruins people's lives
2) Close relationships with other people (friendship, family) are harmful to others because it causes us to act unjust and violent
3) You yourself are perfectly content without friends and family, and so you think everyone else should be like that

I looked up the traits of sociopaths and psychopaths and the most defining one is they lack empathy. I don't know about you, but your whole "I'm happy without others so everyone else should also be like that" seems like inability to understand others, put yourself in their shoes. Normal people just can't function like that. There was a hard period in my life, where I wasn't on the best terms with my family, and I could not relate to anyone. It was lonely and very hard.

Паша Шабанов

@Паша Шабанов So now im a sociopath, what's the point of even telling you a point of view if you just straight ignore it?

@Ashcool You made it sound like you didn't think it was

@Zoey I don't really know anymore, are you trolling, or are you a real sociopath. The desire to love and to be loved is one of the main attributes of being human. What do you even think how human should behave? Like a robot?

Паша Шабанов

@Bruce Jedi Lee 🇺🇦 Tell me where I said it's not traumatic.

@Aiden Schneider I didn't say fiction isn't realistic. It's very realistic but tell me how else does society treat Batman badly?

@Bruce Jedi Lee 🇺🇦 I stand good and healthy so it's not true.

@Bruce Jedi Lee 🇺🇦 I don't, so it's not true.

@Zoey No you are not realistic you are being a nut case. First of all, like the person you were responding to saud, humanity is only still around and has achived so many great things by working togheter. We are not meant to be alone, we cannot live alone. Secondly, just because you love someone doesn't mean you will murder someone. Yes, we will do a lot for those we love and sometimes that will be bad things. But guess what? People who love no one and are completely alone do terrible shit as well. Stalin is a good example and so are many school shooters. And if you live alone, with no loved ones, most people will become depressed. We are social creatures who need each other.

@Ashcool Seeing your parents shot infront your eyes as a child is traumatic

@Паша Шабанов Im realistic, caring about your family makes you able to hurt others for them, making you dangerous.

@Zoey yes, but it's also the reason behind human's greatest achievements. No one can go on completely alone. Yes, we get the biggest amount of pain from family and friends, but also support and love. That's why family relationships can hurt so much, because we care about our friends, our family. Your view of the world is too pessimistic

Паша Шабанов

@Паша Шабанов Friends and families are one of the reasons why humanity is full of injustice.

@Zoey It doesn't mean you should destroy society. Yes, society is nowhere near perfect, but everyday life isn't a actually a hell for 99.99999% of people. Even in the worst conditions we can find friends, family and be somewhat happy. Joker's story is tragic, but it doesn't redeem any of his actions, he is a psychopath.

Паша Шабанов

@JockeyField he’s also fought gods so like...he’s pretty cool

No wonder why his parents were clapped down.

@PowerLifting 101 again you did not get him in the movie fleck has many mental problems like he's completely delusional (dreamed of a relationship with a random woman and he thought it was real) he was super abused when he was a baby so definitely scars there. Has the condition that makes him laugh at inappropriate times and people treat them like a like he's a freak for it. He definitely has tons of episodes throughout the movie. Eventually  Ends up developing a vendetta to people who he thinks has wronged him like Murray thomas wayne and his mom. gotham as a City had abandoned him such as cutting off his meds to keep him sane and his job firing him, all of this leads up to the events with Murray and all that hate that joker had for the shitty people of gotham comes out and shit goes down as you've probably watched. Thinking his whole character is just I'm sad so I'm going to shoot someone is a complete stupid ass view on the character.

@Aiden Schneider it's not completely wrong.

@PowerLifting 101 you did not get that character

@PowerLifting 101 wait which joker are you talking about

The world didn't treat Batman badly. One person did- specifically the one who killed his parents. What's the Oh so traumatic thing that happened to him? Getting orphaned? That thing which happens to a lot of children and all the adults? And don't forget that he had a paternal figure who was loving and supportive of him even after his parents died.

@Grave Book Batman and Joker have both gone outside at least once.

@Grave Book nobody wants to be either
batman is a brooding, sad, self destructive man, willing to give up everything to protect the innocent and complete the mission. he does this so often that his own sidekicks, the people he's fought by, don't want to be like him, some of them even hate him. if you see batman for the symbol he is, anyone would want to be him, but if you see batman for the person he is, nobody wants to be him.
the joker is a lunatic that kills for chaos and attention. all he wants is for batman to break his sense of morality and kill him. i don't care how insane you think you are, nobody wants to bring someone down by their own death. the joker you're talking about isn't the joker you want to be like, the joker you're thinking of is, though.

Most of us wish we were like batman, but we know that we are the joker

Sadly for Batman, by protecting Society you help it destroying lives.


My whole life I have always rooted for the villain. Even when I was child.
I hated that the heroes are supposed too win and villains always lose.
When I was young I loved villains, now that I’m older I understand and love them even more


Zuko is one of my all-time favorite characters in all of fiction because he is the most tragic and beautiful story of the human journey I have yet to see.

While I loved this video I have to disagree with your ultimate statements about good and evil. I am a Christian, and the way I see it, even there weren’t a cosmic embodiment and definition of good and evil, the idea of one is what has kept society stable throughout history, and it is the breakdown of those ideals that leads to anarky, and that is what the Joker represents. I guess that was your point, that society is built on morals that the Joker challenges and years down, but I don’t think that justifies calling him “right”, because without the society he despises, where would we be?


respect to the villain DOOM, thank you for that!


Amazing video! your analysis was beautiful!


A masterpiece as always. I find the workings of human morality to be extremely interesting. This all but confirms my totalitarian state is actually from love and not evil :)

@Mr. Fancypants Something you were barely speaking in your previous comment.

Woah, you must be deep and powerfull to interest for such things!

@EnderKore Gameing he is talking about cities skylines lmao

@EnderKore Gameing chad nationalists

Virgin globalists

@EnderKore Gameing he's talking about cities skyline

@Phil totalitarian states bad because govern ment control everything

@EnderKore Gameing What is statism, why is it cringe, and why is Spike a statist.

@EnderKore Gameing You're on eof the people who think everything is cringe

@Joseph S. He doesn't even play Fortnite

Spike Viper!<br>Saving his citizens from the tsunamis he created.

Spike Viper!
Saving his citizens from the tsunamis he created.


The Joker is literally just "they hated Jesus, for he told the truth"


Someone put into words what I believed in all along. Most antagonists we see are the heroes in their own story. I don't think there's a definitive answer as to who heroes and villains are bc its all about perspective

"To my people, I am a hero. But to you... I'm the bad guy."

-Spade King, Deltarune

"To my people, I am a hero. But to you... *I'm the bad guy."*

-Spade King, Deltarune


That joker movie sticks with me as one of the best movies till this day.  When you showed that newspaper article about his brother. Literal chills shot down my spine. Phoenix really connects to joker. Applying real pain to a character where he could let all that pent up anger. That wasn’t a movie for him it’s was literal therapy


"Have you come to save me from that madman? Thirty years he's kept me here, tortured me, had his way with me!"

"I was happy… floating… staring at the stars…"

                               - Starro 'the Conqueror', The Suicide Squad (2021)


I'm actually working on a story where the hero becomes the villan. Watching this gave me a lot of confidence that what I've been doing could turn out to be very interesting.

wait i have an idea! make him own a meth lab

That seems very interesting and a great way to subvert expectations in literature, I'd love to read this!

AoT is the first thing that comes to mind. Maybe your story will be even better, ya never know! Good luck 👍🏻

8 months later, how’s your story going??

AoT doesn't explain a lot tho all time capsules and shit so no inspiration there.

Oh? Corruption of Champions story? On god?

Please tell me what the title is when you finish so I can buy a copy.

(Also, one author to another, don't be afraid to take an obscene amount of time! Rewrite things until you're happy with them.)

Corruption arcs are great material man, I hope your story turns out great

@🔥 Lil Xanchex 🔥 hey man let people vibe

Me too, but basically mine just goes apesh*t and fights those he used to protect cause he tired of being betrayed and pretending nothing is happening

yo hit me up when you finish your story :)

@Louis Vaught Breaking bad is less of a "hero" becoming a villain and more of an average man turned evil. He was never a Hero, he just wasn't bad.

Very late, but Spec Ops The Line is a great game related to that concept

Watch it come out a failure. Sounds cringe

Its something thats very interesting in stories. One of my favorite stories is actually from a video game. Max Payne 1 and 2 are both great games and they tell an amazing and heart wrenching story. A former cop comes home to find his wife and baby daughter murdered by junkies hooked on some new drug and so he goes on a one man rampage to find the people responsible for sending those junkies to his house and the people who’ve been supplying this new drug. Its a really good game and story cause you see how through grief this man is driven to do things that would make any normal person freak. I mean the cover of the game literally has police tape saying do not cross a man with nothing to lose. I cant say he really becomes the villain cause thats up to you to decide. To me killing is not wrong when done for the right reasons. Please don’t misunderstand, senseless violence is not ok by any means. But if people are shooting at you and want you dead you have every right to defend yourself. The amount of people he kills though could make someone form an argument he is the bad guy but I disagree. Anyone who loses everything would snap like that. I wrote a short story in high school that made my English teacher almost cry because she said you can see how the Main Character starts out not wanting to stoop to the villains level but by the end of the story he revels in the pain and suffering of the villain and his henchmen and almost seems to enjoy the carnage he brings and the fear he instills until his love interest begins to cry and show him that through this journey he’s become worse than the villain, enjoying all the suffering he puts onto others and realizing it he sees the monster he is and how he’s gained nothing from it all but pain and misery so he walks over to the ledge of the building and jumps off unable to live with all the people he’s killed and she said it was a good story of someone enacting their own justice but the ending was horrible cause he cant cope and instead of listening to his GF and getting therapy and such he jumps. I said I wanted it to be as close to myself as possible because Ive always known there was an itty bitty demon inside my heart and that I enjoyed seeing bad people get what they deserve but if I was the executioner I don’t think I could live with all that blood on my hands

Hey when you make some progress, please give us an update. We would love to see your work. Good luck✌

I've been thinking about doing something like this, but where the villain becomes the hero.

@SlyKing Late, but could you tell me the names? I would like to read them

@Lyntzbartzky It's a story that does exactly what you said. A hero who becomes a villain and returns back to a hero, through a duration of 4 Seasons. The execution for it is flawless, so if you want to take some notes, you should watch it.

I know a book where the MC would do a lot of immoral stuff and cause wars for small reasons just to achieve what he wants. What I like about it is the author never portrays the MC as the bad guy, but just a person that'd do anything to get what he wants, even if it means thousands of civilians will suffer for it. Now that I say it out loud it sounds like he is completely evil but he isn't, he never does these bad things to cause suffering, he just does it because it benefits him and the ones he cares about. Although that's not exactly what you're doing. It's a good concept though. I'd like to know how you make your hero into the villain, I'm currently reading a book where one guy was considered the hero of humanity but after suffering defeat from the villain, he takes a step back and finds out how corrupt the government he worked for so he decides to go against the government to purge these corrupt individuals but gets portrayed as the villain by the populous. I guess he is also a hero but still a very interesting concept nonetheless. Sorry for the rambling but I just love books.

Death Note is a great anime where the hero becomes the villain

Im writing one where the protagonist goes from hero, to villain, and back to hero

My name is also Josiah S, so extra good luck 👍

Good luck bro would be honored to read it some day

its called GoT season 8 so please do better than D&D

Breaking Bad is one of the most critically-acclaimed TV shows of all time, so there's definitely a lot there.


love how sympathy for the devil plays at the start


this is a fucking master piece i love this topic i love the execution as far as im concerned its perfect


The rewatchability of this video is insane. This has to be atleast my 10th time.


This is probably the greatest youtube video I have ever seen. Great video, Emperor.


2020 was the villain perhaps because it exposed humanity to its own fragile mortality

2020 was the villain perhaps because it exposed humanity to its own fragile mortality

@Faidou <b>WHY IS IT TOO DEEP FOR YOU?!?</b>

@Big Black Billy Goat If you find it boring, then there's <b>HONKAI IMPACT FOR YOU!</b>

@Big Black Billy Goat If you find it boring, then there's *HONKAI IMPACT FOR YOU!*

@barfyman362 The WHO are just zionists, and work more closely with themselves, the CCP is its own separate entity that sometimes works with them, but not to the detriment of their own people, like the US does

@Sedit T Zealot doesn't know how to spot an (Edited) mark on a youtube comment. No surprise.<br>Hell, I destroyed you based on your own study. I don't really need to say more. A ~1% surface area gap reduces efficiency by 60%.

@Sedit T Zealot doesn't know how to spot an (Edited) mark on a youtube comment. No surprise.
Hell, I destroyed you based on your own study. I don't really need to say more. A ~1% surface area gap reduces efficiency by 60%.

@Sedit T >The study you referenced is bad
>I'M THE ONLY ONE REFERENCING STUDIES!
Uh huh. Yeah, okay zealot. You enjoy your 60% efficiency loss from a ~1% gap.

@Mikoi Bro, I ain't reading all that because almost nothing you have said so far carries any substance so keep it short if you want to keep my attention because trying to worry about what you say at this point is a chore. The study I posted shows it is capable of managing particle sizes 1/5 to 1/20 the size of Covid. Despite that you can not see the relevance so tell me exactly why I should care about much else you have to say. And like I stated... keep it short, you are boring.

The chaos is not over yet. It’s just all numbers. It’s just 0, changing to 1.

The chaos is not over yet. It’s just all numbers. It’s just 0, changing to 1.

That doesn't sound much like a villain, that sounds like a tragic hero antagonized for rescuing us from our own hubris. The real villain is China and the WHO.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES

@Sedit T I'm waiting for him to make the Dunning-Krueger reference for the third fucking time after being directly contradicted by data

@Sedit T I'm waiting for him to make the Dunning-Krueger reference for the third fucking time after being directly contradicted by data

@Mikoi In the citation you provided, or at least the paper the link you provided talked about, there was literally only 68 infections total out of thousands of participants or that in their "control" arm the majority were using Medical mask. That is only the START of the issues I have with that study but is an easy part to suggest correlation is not equal to causation.

[NOTE: See Below for References]

Your statements contradict current literature.[1] In which Cotton is perfectly capable of providing adequate protection against particles even 1/5 to 1/20 the size of a single Viron[2].

Yes, I do agree, people do not use them properly. We would see far greater effectiveness if the common public was not ignorant but that is not the hand we are dealt and must work with what we have. We will need MUCH better data than the citation you provided before we should ever in a million years recommend people do not use something we have known to be effective ( and is clearly shown in the citation you provided ironically) for almost a century if not longer.

[1]

Aerosol Filtration Efficiency of Common Fabrics Used in Respiratory Cloth Masks

"We find that cotton, natural silk, and chiffon can provide good protection, typically above 50% in the entire 10 nm to 6.0 μm range, provided they have a tight weave"

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185834/

[2]

Size of SARS-2

"Each SARS-CoV-2 virion is approximately 50–200 nanometres in diameter."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2#:~:text=Each%20SARS%2DCoV%2D,200%20nanometres%20in%20diameter.

@Mister Scallop Really? How about this. Cite the hospital that is having this.

@Mister Scallop Really? How about this. Cite the hospital that is having this.

@Mister Scallop It's like I told Kurt up there dude. These people are the type that think themselves eating food solves world hunger or like babies playing peekaboo things they do not see do not exist. I forget offhand what the name of it is but it basically a term we use to describe the simple minded who are unable to rationalize and consider that which is not directly in front of themselves. <br>I seen young healthy people die already. 3 people or more I know personally dead already one in early 30s and healthy. I wish I had the luxury of these people and didn't have the harsh reality in my face proving what its about and kind of envy their simplicity.  I am also comforted in knowing what this could be and how relatively little it is compared to what it would be had people not been warned. Early stages in Italy is a prime example of that in which they seen 14-15% CFR rates. count our blessings really. All we can do. Likely same amount will die though, they just will do so much... Much slower. Sadly the fun has literally just begun yet people are here thinking its over with.

@Mister Scallop It's like I told Kurt up there dude. These people are the type that think themselves eating food solves world hunger or like babies playing peekaboo things they do not see do not exist. I forget offhand what the name of it is but it basically a term we use to describe the simple minded who are unable to rationalize and consider that which is not directly in front of themselves.
I seen young healthy people die already. 3 people or more I know personally dead already one in early 30s and healthy. I wish I had the luxury of these people and didn't have the harsh reality in my face proving what its about and kind of envy their simplicity.  I am also comforted in knowing what this could be and how relatively little it is compared to what it would be had people not been warned. Early stages in Italy is a prime example of that in which they seen 14-15% CFR rates. count our blessings really. All we can do. Likely same amount will die though, they just will do so much... Much slower. Sadly the fun has literally just begun yet people are here thinking its over with.

@Mikoi So where does that leave us Mikoi? We have close to 100 years of testing and usage showing effectiveness of mask. They are not used for decades in hospitals and surgeries simply for fashion, and yes, they work best when used properly as they function via electro-static attraction of positive floating air particles( aka the virus in this case) meaning overuse and improper use of a single mask will render it ineffective. However in a similar vain people misuse cleaners like Lysol all of the time and incorrect usage is a problem here as well leading to less than 100% total effectiveness of what the product could otherwise produce but does that mean we should not use anti-viral sprays at all?

Unless you can prove that mask usage increases chances of contracting Covid or another infection, which you would be extremely hard pressed to do on best of days, your argument is moot. Even a 0.5% decrease in viral spread is a decrease and since it is such an absolutely easy action to take should be taken without thought. They are not asking people to put suppositories in every time they leave their house nor asking for a full on biohazard suit. They are simply asking for a tiny little piece of fabric that might give us some sort of control over infections slowing it down in an otherwise uncontrollable situation.

It is quite clear looking at data especially in America that lockdowns and potentially mask altered the course of the virus dramatically. Growth is not really that hard to predict and we can clearly see where the Lockdowns started and the public became highly aware of the situation.  It's also clear where lockdowns ended and where people became more complacent and I personally only find solace in knowing we stopped the initial exponential growth because if not we would not be having this conversation because this comment section would not have the luxury of saying it's not dangerous. It would be quite clear to everyone how bad it really is.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Yeah we get it, you're a bit slow. No one cares. How many times are you going to yell your ignorance? It's obvious dude, you don't have to keep telling us.

[PS: Neat, think I found a nice little bot trigger word. Won't let me say what I want to about you LOL]

@Mikoi the fuck are you talking about? a bunch of day stays for minor symptoms doesn't explain maintained 100% capacity, and flooded ERs due to no ICU beds.

I'M NOT SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY.

I'M NOT SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY.

@Yekkub Re-read what I actually said before you comment again.

@Yekkub Re-read what I actually said before you comment again.

@Mikoi I presume you are incorrectly referencing the SMR but I can't tell unless you provide the source which you misread

@Mikoi I presume you are incorrectly referencing the SMR but I can't tell unless you provide the source which you misread

@Mikoi Just provide a link of what you are talking about so I can show you where you are going wrong. We could go in circles all day but you are simply mistaken.

@Mikoi Masks only protect against droplets, not aerosols, right?

@Mikoi Masks only protect against droplets, not aerosols, right?

@Mikoi there legit are where I'm at. it's not from media, a right wing state rep listed hospitals at capacity. people don't get hospitalized for getting tested smoothbrain

@Mikoi Do you have any studies about masks specifically? What exactly did those studies prove anyways? What's the point?

@Mikoi Do you have any studies about masks specifically? What exactly did those studies prove anyways? What's the point?

@TheFruityKing guess it's chill wherever you're at. I sincerely hope it continues to be for you brother

@TheFruityKing guess it's chill wherever you're at. I sincerely hope it continues to be for you brother

@Mister Scallop Hospitals aren't overcrowded where I live so I'll be just fine. You? Idk.

@Mister Scallop Hospitals aren't overcrowded where I live so I'll be just fine. You? Idk.

more like it exposed humanity to the zionist mafia dominance

more like it exposed humanity to the zionist mafia dominance

@TheFruityKing have fun not getting treated if you get injured I guess?...

@TheFruityKing have fun not getting treated if you get injured I guess?...

@Mister Scallop I'd be lying if I said I cared about that.

@Mister Scallop I'd be lying if I said I cared about that.

@TheFruityKing exactly. it's not going away. people need to be careful in the meantime so ER's don't fucking fill up to where people can't get care.

@TheFruityKing exactly. it's not going away. people need to be careful in the meantime so ER's don't fucking fill up to where people can't get care.

@Mister Scallop It's been "spiking again" how many times now? It's a virus it's not gonna go away.

@Mister Scallop It's been "spiking again" how many times now? It's a virus it's not gonna go away.

@Kurt You are the type of person that thinks every time they eat they solve World Hunger. If it ain't happening to you... it simply does not exist. Kinda like a baby playing peek a boo. The minute the person covers their face you think they disappear. Must be nice to be so wrapped up in self you are oblivious to the problems of the world. I would love that sort of dull mentality.

@Mikoi I mean... Think about it. Spanish flu, mortality of 2.5%. This, currently 2.1% globally which is a HUGE step down since we learned to deal with it. At the start Italy had 15% mortality rate. Many places around the world are still well above the global average. So despite this being AS BAD as the Spanish Flu of 1918 which killed 50 million in a time where less people were around we are having this discussion about how Covid is not bad when it is comparable to it.

@Mikoi There has been 1,840,000 deaths... Divide that by 84,000,000 cases and multiply by 100 to get the percentage. This gives us a 2.169% mortality rate globally. So you tell me how 2% of the people who get it, two out of every 100, die yet the survival rate is 99.76%. You are simply reading the numbers wrong and not sure what the hell you are looking at.

@TheFruityKing it's spiking again and tons of american hospitals are filled to capacity. it wouldn't be a threat if dimwits actually followed regs, but nobody anywhere will

@Mikoi You are right about it. Blaming on the year doesn't magically solve the problems of the Earth, but that makes matter worst since people on the Internet are hypocritical about it. First, 2012 is the worst year, then 2016 is the worst year, then 2019 is the worst year, and it's ongoing.

So that being said, 2021 isn't even a thing yet because we never entered the year yet but we may never know what's gonna happen next, for the better or the worse. We will see.

@Yekkub (Bao 2020)
This study shows that mouse to mouse transmission of Covid-19 can happen with aerosols.
(Kutter 2020)
While this study has it's flaws and should only be taken as supporting evidence, it also shows that animal to animal spread can happen by aerosols.
(Lednicky 2020; Santarpia 2020a)
Both of these studies have identified viable SARS-CoV-2 in the air.
(Shen 2020 ; Hamner 2020; Jimenez 2020)
Talk about super spreader events and how if droplets were the main way of transmission super spreader events would not be realistic.

Not to mention the fact that aerosol spread is much more likely in asymptomatic illnesses rather than symptomatic ones. This is due to asymptomatic people producing far less droplets when not sneezing and coughing. And yet, asymptomatic people still seem to be the cause of superspreader events.

And you can't really stop an airborne disease without a full lockdown, literally welding people into their houses tier stuff. It's better to simply let it run its course, protect the vulnerable, and let everyone else that isn't vulnerable catch it and generate herd immunity.

@Sedit T CDC numbers place the survival rate at 99.76% across all age groups. Under 50 is at 99.99%.
The Spanish Flu in 1918 that you're referring to here had a death rate at about 2.5%.
The Asian Flu in 1957 had a mortality rate of about 0.67%.
Comparing total numbers of deaths from now to back then is really really dumb.
In 1920, the US had just about 100 million people in it.
These people were also more spread out and less concentrated in large cities.
Cut to about 100 years later and we've tripled our population count.
So even if we had a virus that had the same mortality rates in both centuries, 1920 and 2020, we would expect 2020's total deaths to be 3x higher, without even counting the population density which would drive it up even more.

Seeing as I've been watching this from the very beginning and am very politically aware, no, lockdowns have done nothing but destroy our economies. Sweden is all you have to look at for an example. They track along the same graph that other countries who implemented lockdowns do.

I get you've been fear mongered by the main stream media into believing this is the deadliest thing in the world, but don't go around trying to fear monger others just because you're stupid enough to believe CNN.

@Mr. Kaiju It was a bad year but it wasn’t that bad, exaggerated to all hell. It was like every other year, the only difference was the media found out how to report on the same things to rile up hatred.

what hurts more is that people think it stops at 2021

what hurts more is that people think it stops at 2021

@Mikoi Could I have those studies? I'm not disagreeing, I just dont want to go through the trouble of wading through all the media's shitty propaganda.

@Mikoi Could I have those studies? I'm not disagreeing, I just dont want to go through the trouble of wading through all the media's shitty propaganda.

@Kurt Proof? 2 million dead, Just gotten started on a relative scale... that's ya proof brother. Ya just don't know what you are looking for or don't care to find out.

@Kurt Its not? Besides the fact we have not counted all the dead, our current known levels are more dead than EVERY other Epidemic in over 100 years. Is it really not that bad or do you just not get how bad it is? Considering these type of viruses normally have a cycle of around 560 days or so and that is without us slowing it down yet here we are with almost 2 million dead which is the cusp of the Asian Flu in 1956-58. So... like 1/4 of the way through at best and have already matched the death toll for the worst epidemic in 100 years.

Not being chicken little, just being real. Only thing is you are unaware about how bad it really is because you expect bad epidemics to look like the Walking dead when this is not TV, it is reality. This IS what dangerous epidemics look like. To many Zombie flicks just warped yalls brains.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Keep repeating that to yourself, NPC. It may even become true someday.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Keep repeating that to yourself, NPC. It may even become true someday.

I'm not sorry for what I said. I'm not sorry for what I said. I'm NOT sorry for what I said.

I'm not sorry for what I said. I'm not sorry for what I said. I'm NOT sorry for what I said.

@Mr. Kaiju Right with you my dude. I can't figure out why people who I see crying every single day about having to go to work or go out places on Facebook are told they are not allowed to go to work and just stay at home for the greater good yet their responses was REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Fuck yeah, I had time to write a Game I have been programming. What did everyone else waste their time on. First time in forever everyone was given free reign to go and chase whatever it is they really wanted to do and they all freaked because their conditioned brains had no idea what to do with themselves without people telling them what to do every day.

@Mikoi Shit I woke in 2021 finding out a lifelong friend was found dead in his yard for currently unknown reasons( at least to me) so Fuck this year from the very start of it. People said they dropped him off at 2am he was siting on the porch when they left and was fine yet at 10am he was found dead in the backyard. I was under no illusion shit would magically get better like everyone on Facebook seems to believe but the way my 2021 started I will take 2020 over that fucking shit any day of the week. This blows :(

To us humans, maybe. But for all the other beings living on this planet? I believe it was the best year they've had in a long time, because they got a break from our meddling. I think 2020 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be honestly, mainly because of that

If anything, it showed humanity how easily freedom can die.

If anything, it showed humanity how easily freedom can die.

Airborne rabies courtesy of the CDC be like: 😳🤫

Airborne rabies courtesy of the CDC be like: 😳🤫

Oh boy, another 2020 comment. <b>these totally never fucking get old...</b>

Oh boy, another 2020 comment. *these totally never fucking get old...*

You're absolutely right! No one believed in death and nuclear war prior to WW2! Please, share more of your deep, profound knowledge, oh wise one!

You're absolutely right! No one believed in death and nuclear war prior to WW2! Please, share more of your deep, profound knowledge, oh wise one!

Illegal Aliens yo you think trump is gonna win?

Illegal Aliens yo you think trump is gonna win?

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Wow, he downplayed something to stop a panic from happening? Did you forget what happened in March where we had shortages of basic supplies?
Also, it's amusing how leftists are constantly banging on about how moral they are, and yet they truly don't care beyond the virtue signaling.

>I won't stop wearing my mask
Okay and? Masks do nothing. We have the data from all over the world comparing lockdowns and mask mandates that all show that masks and lockdowns had nill effect.

No. 2020 is being posited as a terrible year because humans have short attention spans and even shorter memories it seems. Every year is supposedly the worst year ever. 2021 will be no different, towards the end months people will tell you how bad 2021 was and how they wished for 2020 back. It's media and social media's constant push for clicks and views that drive this further than anything.

2020: “oho, you respect me because I’m a threat”

2020: “oho, you respect me because I’m a threat”

@Mr. Friendship no, thank you. all i really needed was a friend.

@Mr. Friendship no, thank you. all i really needed was a friend.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Thank you.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Thank you.

@Mr. Friendship anyone you say? not just the old and sick you say? i was just told different. but you seem like a more trustworthy sort so I'll take your word for it and use the necessary precautions.

if someone says that taking necessary precautions in a pandemic (which would imply wearing a mask, social distancing, etc.) counts as freaking out, then surely they have not been properly made aware of the issue. if only there were someone on the world stage who's words are backed by nuclear weapons and several aircraft carriers that could deliver us such important information in a well-adjusted manner.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Uh, no. I'm not freaking out about the virus but it's still a threat to anyone, not just old people nor the sick.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum Uh, no. I'm not freaking out about the virus but it's still a threat to anyone, not just old people nor the sick.

@Mr. Friendship dude, why are you freaking out over covid-19. it can't even kill an old man. dude chill. just as a wise old man once said, it will probably be gone by April.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum cringe ascendence

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum cringe ascendence

2020 is maybe the villain but COVID-19 is the true threat that makes it evil in the first place. So that being said, that's why "cause and effect" exists.

2020 is maybe the villain but COVID-19 is the true threat that makes it evil in the first place. So that being said, that's why "cause and effect" exists.

Self serving above all. The one true evil.

Self serving above all. The one true evil.

Remember the good the bad and the ugly. The villain was not the antagonist, but the corruptor. Loyal to no one side. The true evil. No morality rather than negative morality.

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum virgin mode

@Latinexus Socivaru-Simulacrum virgin mode

This is the first thing I thought when I watched this video Lol 😂😂

This is the first thing I thought when I watched this video Lol 😂😂

it's not a virtue signal, i'm just rubbing it in

it's not a virtue signal, i'm just rubbing it in

One day you'll say this about the 2020's

One day you'll say this about the 2020's

@Sly Seal The virus was merely the excuse. It was never a threat.

@Sly Seal The virus was merely the excuse. It was never a threat.

2020 was the villain because it exposed how weak our government is to respond to a crisis, how dumb people are to others dying, selfish people will be to do the right thing, and how despite it all china will still be seen in the right despite allowing the virus to get out of hand. the WHO goes unpunished for being a mouthpiece for china.

Maybe the real villain was the pinko pox we caught along the way.

Maybe the real villain was the pinko pox we caught along the way.

Stop being a bleeding heart already, this was the year where governments were finally coerced to take pre-emptive measures against viruses. If anything we found out that viruses ain't got shit on what the economy does to us. You think people would care half as much if they weren't under threat of being fired?

First step into reality for a minecraft youtuber. Im sure 😂

First step into reality for a minecraft youtuber. Im sure 😂


You dont beat Fletcher by becoming Fletcher. It's actually the exact opposite. Becoming him means that his actions are legitimate. You becoming him is his objective. Quitting is the way to beat him. You're not giving up, you can still do it, but you choose to give up on his methods. It's a form of enlightenment. At least in my opinion.


I used to watch your content as a kid. Funny videos and YTPs, but now I'm watching some amazing. Well made videos. I gotta love your new content, its so good


This is some fucking good content my god !!!! Thank you emplemon


Can we talk about how around the 7:30 minute mark you can hear part of the portal theme JUST before he talks about man vs machine? Dude your videos are brilliant!


"See, now you respect me.  Because I'm a threat"

I've been doing YouTube for a decade  now and my god is that line ever appropriate for some of the people in this line of work.  Some people look at YouTube as such a numbers game that they won't give you the time of day until they believe you're within striking distance of them

I'm not talking about when a YouTuber doesn't reply to another one, everyone gets too busy.  I can't reply to every message I get.  I'm talking about when someone is actively dismissive to a smaller YouTuber until they're the same size, then suddenly pretend like they were friends.  You wouldn't believe how many people suddenly wanted to pretend like they were always great to me as soon as I took off.

@Acacius <br>i really hope that whatever the reason you can't be happy is something you will eventually win against, but if you truly say it is impossible while archival is not, then your choice, maybe you will be right, maybe not

@Acacius
i really hope that whatever the reason you can't be happy is something you will eventually win against, but if you truly say it is impossible while archival is not, then your choice, maybe you will be right, maybe not

@Marx As i know i never can be happy in this life (as i'm forced to be me.) it would be at least something to be remembered something i can still archive. It is also being temporarely sure. But unlike happiness it is not an impossible archivment.

THIS...i feel that. i literally got told I'm not allowed to do something that involves fun, sharing, friendship, creativity, fandom support, community etc because I "didn't have enough subscribers" and was constantly dismissed for it. i noticed it right away, it happened to others too - people only care about ya when you're big - so I wonder how people get big?

@The Gallivanter Yes, I know.
Not all religious people are the same.
These comments just make me so irritated some times I kinda fall to the same low

@The Gallivanter Yes, I know.
Not all religious people are the same.
These comments just make me so irritated some times I kinda fall to the same low

@FeelsGoodMan Ouch. You know, everyone here (who has touched on the topic) has been guilty so far of assuming that "religious people" are all the same kind of person. The fact is that they are not. Religions have their own moral codes and many religions disagree on these. Some will consider the acts of another horrible because of the religion or beliefs they follow, even though the other guy sees nothing wrong. Being "religious" does not tie you to the belief system or morals or personality of any other "religious" person. Most people do not follow a world-wide list of right and wrong things to do. They do as what they interpret as the meaning of their beliefs. Many people from the same religion do not even follow the same belief system, despite following the same "code of conduct". They are not tied to any specific personality, like you all are for some reason implying, and do not believe something just because Pastor Joe told them to. People who follow the same religion in the same area often disagree with each other on the matter of beliefs, and that's okay, because people are never going to have a single personality or system of beliefs just because they are "religious." That is not how being human works.

@MikeYvesPerlick could..could you tell me the story about the maker of bayonetta? just curious....

@MikeYvesPerlick could..could you tell me the story about the maker of bayonetta? just curious....

@Marx You can't enjoy life all the time, so why even bother trying, the harder you try, the less you succeed. So just embrace the truth, being an 'asshole' to everyone is better, that's just how the world works. And people who complain about 'assholes' are being childish.  Just childish. World is conflict, to live is to fight by any means neccessary.

@Samu-el Daw-kins I know right?  That's when I just kinda tuned out of that conversation, it took a completely random turn

@Samu-el Daw-kins I know right?  That's when I just kinda tuned out of that conversation, it took a completely random turn

@The Phaxal Nevertheless, one's character is the ultimate deciding factor.

@The Phaxal Nevertheless, one's character is the ultimate deciding factor.

@Lazzle Dazzle Far from standart. My name was as random of a choice as anything, was looking at a piece of jam, my life was chaotic at the time, bam, username.<br>Second: Happiness is temporary, social status is forever, if you don't let morality get in the way and play your cards right, you could even be remembered in all of history forever. So who cares if you're happy or if you make people happy. Not like it'll matter in 80 or so years when you're senile and shit under yourself. Lets be real.

@Lazzle Dazzle Far from standart. My name was as random of a choice as anything, was looking at a piece of jam, my life was chaotic at the time, bam, username.
Second: Happiness is temporary, social status is forever, if you don't let morality get in the way and play your cards right, you could even be remembered in all of history forever. So who cares if you're happy or if you make people happy. Not like it'll matter in 80 or so years when you're senile and shit under yourself. Lets be real.

@Chaos is my Jam A few possibilities, you are joking. Another could be that your the type who pretends not to follow any morals because you kind of find the aesthetic of that cool (your channel name literally is chaos is my jam, I don't think you'd feel the need to call attention to that if it really was) Most everyone follows some sort of morality. Pragmatically speaking you are correct, it is far easier to gain power in the world by disregarding morality, however when it comes to having good relationships with people morality is vital. If you want any sort of happiness outside of power you need morality, and relationships give you far more potent happiness than power does.                                                                                P.S. If chaos is your jam why are you still conforming to society? You obviously have access to the internet, so your life is probably fairly standard.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I don't see what you find the issue in here.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I don't see what you find the issue in here.

I remembered the origin of me spending a part of my youth interested in self defense and fighting techniques in general ever since a guy twice my size hit me for walking home with a girl I was interested in and that he happened to also be interested in too

After his first hit I realized I didn't have the strength to fight back, but I was either resistant enough or he was weak enough where half of the fight could be on my favor

so I left it there and didn't escalate the situation, and he threatened me and my friends, since he was known for picking fights all the time, I spent a lot of time going to a gym, learning how to act next time he wanted a fight

And the next time I came across him while going to the arcade with friends he was surprisingly nice and even submissive, it felt scummy that the same person who hit a kid over a girl who wasn't interested in him, would suddenly scurry away once that kid matched his size and even trying to be friends all of a sudden, and I realized now that I had already beat him without having to return any punches at the end of the day

[Jac̡҉k̕_ W҉̛̕o͞od̀́͞s̢͞]

@Lazzle Dazzle Obeying some strange morals is far from good, for you, or anyone. It won't get you anywhere.

@Lazzle Dazzle Obeying some strange morals is far from good, for you, or anyone. It won't get you anywhere.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! That is a very flawed system. This will not get humanity anywhere. Humans are competitive. Humans must hate each other and want something that somebody else has in order to get everyone on the same level, even though that is impossible, that way, someone will always try to one up-another. Help can be given freely, but rarely, and it yields far less evolutionary result. Sometimes, humans just want to stand side by side with someone. And what better way to have that, than to ignore someone and force them to go down the same path as you did?

Cheers, I'll drink to that bro. I especially can relate with that last sentence.

Cheers, I'll drink to that bro. I especially can relate with that last sentence.

@FeelsGoodMan I apologize for the confusion. I'm saying the chuds are people seriously defending the "Well why should you care about people with less subs" shit.

@FeelsGoodMan I apologize for the confusion. I'm saying the chuds are people seriously defending the "Well why should you care about people with less subs" shit.

@Harthuum Religious people believe more that they aren't accountable than anything, your logic falls flat.
Religious types usually believe they're totally in the clear as long as they tell God they're vewy sowwy.
In fact, i'd guess it's why many people are religious.

Same with when people die. Some idiot sandwich will bully a kid, the kid puts an end to it all, and the idiot sandwich acts as if they were best friends.
In fact, now that I think of it, this... applies to a lot of of things.
Oh boy, time to end up on r/im13andthisisdeep.

@Jedeux There's a difference between not responding to someone's messages, and replying "Oh you're not a REAL YouTuber, you have less than X amount of subs! And look at those viewcounts. Pitiful!" when you happen to run into them at a convention or out in public and say "I'm also a YouTuber". People on YouTube are straight up vitriolic, and will sometimes go out of their way to initiate contact with smaller creators, just for the sake of people to tell them their effort doesn't count. And THAT'S what MDB is referring to.

@Samu-el Daw-kins No problem man, same here. Then he replied with how people are bad drivers and Im sitting here thinking “huh??”

@Samu-el Daw-kins No problem man, same here. Then he replied with how people are bad drivers and Im sitting here thinking “huh??”

@Nuckley thanks for that reply. I just read that little religion line he added in and thought "what"?

@Nuckley thanks for that reply. I just read that little religion line he added in and thought "what"?

@Shyguymask Jesus you sound horrid, they don’t “deserve” your attention and time? Oh my god, go outside dude.

@Shyguymask Jesus you sound horrid, they don’t “deserve” your attention and time? Oh my god, go outside dude.

@Shyguymask i think it's a lot more of a "yo dude we're at the same social stature now, congrats, now you're good enough :D"

@Shyguymask i think it's a lot more of a "yo dude we're at the same social stature now, congrats, now you're good enough :D"

It's a big and concerning problem with becoming "successful" on social medias as a whole. Suddenly everyone assumes you are their friend and that if you don't reply to their DMs on Discord you are "ignoring" them and being rude. You have no idea how many DMs I've gotten from people that say nothing but "Hello" and "Yo" as if I'm their lifelong friend and they deserve my attention and time.

im having so much trouble with that first sentence

im having so much trouble with that first sentence

Always love when youtubers i watch interact with totally unrelated youtubers i watch

Always love when youtubers i watch interact with totally unrelated youtubers i watch

I won't lie to you lad. I have no idea who you are. I merely just search up and watch what interests me.

I won't lie to you lad. I have no idea who you are. I merely just search up and watch what interests me.

@Harthuum You’re merely pulling the idea that religious people are more polite out of nowhere. Basic human awareness isn’t proof, if someone was rude to you the one time you saw them, do you just know that they weren’t religious? I don’t get how bad drivers ties into this either, unless the majority of people that drive aren’t religious. I just wanted to know if you had any proof but I guess not.

@Nuckley with rather basic awareness of human behavior, it's easy to make the logical conclusion that if people feel as though there is no consequence for what they do, they're not going to care about being polite to others.

what gain do you have to be polite in day to day life? the sense of morality and social correctness, for many people, rapidly wanes in the face of adversity or hardship. what remains after that is incentives or threats to encourage or discourage, respectively, such as being polite around your coworkers to ensure you can readily advance in your career or seeking to avoiding bodily harm/violence. but not everybody cares about being hit or kissing ass to succeed

you can see something similar to this when driving cars. people act like fucking maniacs, intentionally cutting others off and disrupting traffic because they are angry, want to satisfy that rage, and they think there will be no retaliation because they are safe in their cars.
on the other hand, religion on average typically encourages people to do good and avoid evil because they will be accountable for everything they ever do even if it is not readily apparent. that's not to say everybody religious adheres to this or that every single religious person is inherently morally superior to people who are secular-minded, but that religious people on average tend to care more about minding their manners and overall politeness because the concept of afterlife influences their decisions

@Harthuum Do you have any evidence that lack of faith correlates with lack of manners? I don’t even see the reason behind bringing it up, people as a whole aren’t becoming more rude due to a miniscule increase in secularity. There have always been rude people, and they could be ill-mannered or jerks for any number of reasons. It’s usually because of their upbringing, much like how Emp talked about 2019’s Joker in the video. Family, peers, or maybe even just a bad day. Forgive me for singling out such a minor detail in your discussion, I just can’t understand why you tie the two together.

That line is also applicable when YouTube starts getting out of line with its demonitization and related systems.

Look at what happened when Markiplier got hit. After a little back-and-forth on both YouTube and Twitter,
only when it was him and practically all of his fans getting on youtube's case, did youtube reinstate his previous status.

And that was a channel as prolific as his; you couldn't even dream of getting results like that with much less notoriety.

"You wouldn't believe how many people suddenly wanted to pretend like they were always great to me as soon as I took off.
" This line alone can make you realise who's truly your friend when you get popular when you compare the before and after

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams!  no problem man, it'd be very pathetic of me to call you out and insult you for something you seemingly said then not bother hearing you out when you correct yourself and explain in further detail

yeah that's an issue growing more rampant as time goes on. An overall decline of cultural appreciation for manners and decency and the growing dislike of religion has resulted in people feeling less inclined to be respectful towards others. the internet reinforces this attitude in a lot of people by demonstrating there is almost never a consequence for doing something, just change your name or do something else, and in fact the internet encourages disrespect as sensationally slamming something will draw more attention than giving that thing a fair shake. the threat of retaliation and comeuppance is a major part of keeping societies safe/pleasant places to be (abrahamic religions encourage people to stay good even when they wouldn't immediately suffer a consequence which is why a lack of godliness has spawned this negative behavior), and the internet or other forms of distant communication is practically an antithesis to that principle of threat.

it's a really sad state of affairs tbh. it's not gonna be the last time you deal with that kind of behavior as a youtuber, or even in person, it's everywhere now unfortunately

@Harthuum And thanks for giving me a second chance on that!  Usually when people disagree in comments, they aren't willing to hear the person out when they try to explain in greater detail.

I've had plenty of people who would outright make fun of me that suddenly pretended like they were always by my side the moment I got big enough.  That's the kind of stuff that I'm trying to talk about.  In fact if I remember right, EmpLemon talked about a similar issue years ago, when he didn't have the respect of his peers until he suddenly out-grew them.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams!  that's more reasonable then. people lacking manners and basic politeness only to then become best friends with you once they realize there is material gain is scummy as fuck. I don't think it's much of a problem if they weren't rude about it before though, it's mainly the douchebag behavior that makes it unexcusable imo<br>in general I just hate people without manners. thanks for replying

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams!  that's more reasonable then. people lacking manners and basic politeness only to then become best friends with you once they realize there is material gain is scummy as fuck. I don't think it's much of a problem if they weren't rude about it before though, it's mainly the douchebag behavior that makes it unexcusable imo
in general I just hate people without manners. thanks for replying

@Jedeux Did you read the last paragraph of my original post?  I'm specifically talking about people who were directly dismissive of me in the past, then pretended that we were always friends as soon as I was popular.

What does that have to do with what you said?

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Just accept the fact that you had lower value in the context of yt popularity. You're going through lengths trying to make this a personal thing by making it seem like he referred to your value as a person. You're jusg salty for being dismissed when you haven't proven yourself or earned respect. You were not entitled to their time and you whining about things like that isn't a good look.<br>They didn't step on your or ridiculed you, did they? You were simply was not worth their time.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Just accept the fact that you had lower value in the context of yt popularity. You're going through lengths trying to make this a personal thing by making it seem like he referred to your value as a person. You're jusg salty for being dismissed when you haven't proven yourself or earned respect. You were not entitled to their time and you whining about things like that isn't a good look.
They didn't step on your or ridiculed you, did they? You were simply was not worth their time.

@Harthuum That's not at all what I said.  I guess maybe people are getting the wrong message out of my original post, I edited it to add more detail.

@Harthuum That's not at all what I said.  I guess maybe people are getting the wrong message out of my original post, I edited it to add more detail.

That's something I realized with people they'll walk all over you while you let them yet the moment you lash out they "act right" if they understood there was a threat why push it to that point? People are weird.

@Egg T I don’t know why but the anime girl in your picture looks particularly strange even from a still photo. I’ve seen the original scene on YouTube and I just can’t get over that bonkers stuff. WEEEEEhhGAHAHHA- jumps in pool and looks very satisfied*

Dude I keep seeing you in the comments of every YouTube video I watch LOL, big fan of the let's plays though

Dude I keep seeing you in the comments of every YouTube video I watch LOL, big fan of the let's plays though

should a professional sports team be expected to pick up some thirteen year old kid just because said kid REALLY wants to play in a major league?

this is an incredibly similar situation. you shouldn't expect people who do youtube as a career to interact with youtubers who won't help them advance their career. whining because influencers don't want to interact with you because there's no gain in it is really entitled of you. that's the reason why they seemingly only care about the "numbers game" because these numbers are an objective way to demonstrate your potential worth to them, so interacting with an equally high sub-count youtuber could result in their videos being presented to a broader audience

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Good, many people who start out youtube around young adult age end up maturing into arrogant, amoral, egotistical, pieces of shit, who only care about advancing their career, and have no knowledge of everyday life. You are a rare exception.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I judge you by your success. Accomplish something, then you can be heard when you speak.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I judge you by your success. Accomplish something, then you can be heard when you speak.

In this world the quickest way to become a villain is to say something that offends (just by being yourself), and to shine too brightly.  I fully understand so many villains now...

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Holy shit I was just watching one of your videos when I got this in my notifications.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Holy shit I was just watching one of your videos when I got this in my notifications.

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! You know that it is hard to argue that a lack of action is the ultimate sin right

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! You know that it is hard to argue that a lack of action is the ultimate sin right

@Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! The latter statement moreover applies to monarchs and masters of their useful craft as in nutritional science, engineering, agricultural knowledge, etc, but you only have more subs than others because you either played your cards better, have played more, or the fact that you have played at all.

@MikeYvesPerlick People do not have lower value because they have less career success.  I'm the same man as I was before I got big on YouTube, and I'm proud of who I am.

I absolutely refuse to believe that I'm better than someone just because my channel is bigger.  It's an incredibly immoral and short sighted way to judge someone.  Judge them by the content of their character, not their popularity or material wealth.

You know about the maker of Bayonetta? It's that way for a reason and it should be that way because it forces people to become notorious as well. People who have a lower value than somebody else should not waste the higher-ups time unless the higher up is ok with it


holy shit. that, was beautiful. i have not sat down and watched a 20 minute video and feel so good in so long. thank you.


"Most villains do evil as the enjoy it" "others had to adapt to it or wor forced into it"


this is an awsome video!! i rewatched this like 7 times and its still good!


I love that “want you gone” plays before man vs machine


20:34 "we fetishisize the outcome of villains without exploring their journey"

Probably one of the most profound things ive heard you say in any of your videos and definitely this one.

@CalDW his understanding of morality isn't well developed. Yeah he doesn't care about other people in general, but he also doesn't care much about himself. Yeah I think borderline psychopath is probably a good description of him, but he still has positive emotions for others, like Morty.

Psychopaths and sociopaths are not the most evil people in existence. The most evil people have an extreamly well developed sense of empathy, and they can use that fine tuned sense to be able to understand what makes people tick and how to cause the most suffering by knowing what makes people feel a certain way. A sociopath simply won't care how you feel, they will look at you as an object or tool to be figured out and little else.

@Nick MaGrick I think that’s a more sensible way to put it. If I might be a little wacky and out-there, I think the impulses which lead most villains to do what they do are familiar to all of us, and core to human nature.

I can’t comment on what you said about balance, but if you’re referring to balance in one’s state of mind, I do think that’s an important differentiator.

@Nick MaGrick He is consciously aware of his actions and is more than intelligent enough to grasp the concepts of consequences, he simply doesn't care. That is still just as bad than someone going out of their way to do what he does. Psycopaths are indifferent to the consequences of their actions even if they fully understand what they are doing.

@CalDW again, harm is not equal to evil. Many of the most harmful things human kind has done has been done with benevolent intent.

Rick is more indifferent than anything.

@Nick MaGrick How has anyone done any more than multi planet wide rape and numerous universe genocides? Rick has more blood on his hands than Thanos.

@CalDW Lots of things harm without the intent to. Many things do unimaginable harm just to survive, like parasites or certain predators. They are hardly evil.

Evil is the kind of thing that is reserved for a thing that does harm for the sake of doing harm and causing suffering and nothing else. There is no greater purpose, no goal in mind, just he destruction of anything beautiful to turn it into something ugly and to enjoy that transformation.

That would be like saying the most harmful person in history is also subsequently the most evil. There are plenty of good people who have done great harm, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it would be silly to mistake that for evil. Sometimes a lack of insight can lead to others causing great evil, but light and dark are causes of the other and you can't label one by its ability to turn into the other.

Rick is certainly no saint, and hes a selfish bastard, but there are plenty of people who have done less harm than him that are clearly more evil, just not as capable of doing as much damage as Rick because they are not as smart so their capacity to do harm is limited. Is Rick somewhat evil? Yes you could argue that, but theres also good in him as well. This duality is showcased in a lot of the episodes sprinkled throughout. Like the toilet throne episode.

@Nick MaGrick I disagree, simply not caring or not "intentionally" trying to harm anyone should not be what defines an action as evil. There are countless people throughout history and people in power who have oppressed and harmed thousands of people but because they either don't think about it or believe those people do not matter doesn't make their actions less evil than someone going out of their way. Mega corporations building production lines in areas of the world with water resources and pumping what little water is there to the factory instead of the people living there dying of dehydration etc.

Also Rick has very much still done evil actions intentionally with his inhumane experiments on intelligent life to a point he even created a mini universe filled with intelligent life just to power his car and destroyed it when it no longer did what he wanted because he saw the mini universes life as inferior to him and couldn't handle that there was also someone within it close to him in intellect. Or straight up leaving his family to suffer a planetwide virus to go and start a new life in a similar universe with a family he technically has no relation to (something he's implied to have done numerous times in the past)

@Reinhardt Wilhelm I wouldn't say we're ugly creates, but deep down we share that thing that we perceive as ugliness not realizing its also the same thing that gives rise to beauty. Those without enough of the balance were erased by the more successful creatures that could incorporate death and stubborn self preservation as much as they were constructs that fight against chaos and entropy.

I feel that quote. I’ve had sympathy for villains for many years, sometimes even more than the heroes of a story, and for some pretty convoluted reasons, I’m more disgusted by the human tendency to fetishize the complete downfall of the “bad guy” every time I see it.

Deep down inside, we’re all such ugly creatures. We want to see others burn, and we want to feel that pride in our chest at being right and someone else being wrong. That’s why we kill.

And... in my mind, if you celebrate that, you should really ask yourself whether you’ve become the monster.

there's plenty of stories where villains turn hero and become fan favorite

like Vegeta


morale is simply something we made to keep us away from murdering when we get pissed of but sometimes we crack, morality is something we tell ourselves so that we can keep that little bit of joker within


3:07 according to Mass "Effect Andromeda" developer "BioWare" %92 of players chose the "Good" options as opposed to the "Evil" options during their first playthrough.


6:45 im so glad he mentioned that. not to many good cosmic horrors portrayed in movies and especially not Lovecraft


One villain I'll never feel sympathy for is YouTube...

@kaworeal Of course it is. She's the best girl.

Holy fuck, I never expected this shitty joke to blow up. Thanks, guys.

Google owns YouTube so probably moreso google

but is YouTube rly the villain. yes they may demonetise and do video takedowns. but at the end of the day it allows so many people to share content that otherwise would not have been

I hate youtube but i love it at the same time

I'll never feel sympathy for Cynder, Carnage, Kamuy, Pius Thicknesse, Light Yagami, or Ken Ichijouji. The only good versions of them are dead.

@Draknor Dragor A corporate villian to be exact.

top 4 anime villain is 1. nintendo 2. Youtube 3. people who put milk before the cereal  4. people who repost animations

Exactly and you keep coming back like it's some kind of abusive relationship

They just keep order at a strict level, EA though.

@Undead Werewolves just like every other corporation.

of course, you have to deal with that villain yourself.

Twitch robbed me of a lot of money, so I personally dislike them more. But YT has done shit to me even, and it's getting worse as time goes on.

Media in general tbh... They show themselves as the hero while they're the worst of villains...

yea but thats a different kind of villain :p


0:45 Gotta love Super Castlevania IV OST.

Great video as always, Zuko is a perfect example.


This was rather fascinating. The human mind is amazing.


6:39 i recently watched this movie with my parents and all i could think about was how similar is was to among us. I've been cursed


Lemons was that one kid that never asked in school  “when are we gonna use this in real life”


Everybody's talking about Zuko but don't forget Azula. All the wanted was to be loved, and instead her father put too much on her shoulders. She thought her mother saw her as a monster and her friends betrayed her. And all of that led down to a mental breakdown.

@Ignacio P. I am implying she was written that way. I'm not implying anything about her birth because we barely even saw childhood, let alone birth. OP is claiming it's the result of circumstances, which is what the story would have you believe. Within the concept of the narrative. Neither of us are "wrong."

@TheD736 you are implying she was born that way, what the op is claiming is that she was made that way.

@Razzel That is probably to most accurate way to describe how azula was evil and could have been good.

"wanted to be loved", "so killed a bunch of innocent people", makes sense. Bad way to gains sympathy if you ask me. Nice try tho.

@R.A.B. Random Acts of Blindness She is presented as a constant sociopath. She is not a real person, you see, and so I can only judge her from the basis of the story she is from, not stories she could have been in. In every instance we saw her, she was being an absolute madvillain. I get that in real life medically you can't be born a sociopath. I figure that she was written how she was written as a portrayal of what Zuko's father wanted from him, but not what his mother wanted from him. A way to further show the dichotomy between Zuko's parents and his influences.

As a result, there isn't really much room for redemption from a story perspective either because she serves in the story as a sort of reference point for Zuko's own redemption arc.

My point from the start is this bitch is irredeemable.

@R.A.B. Random Acts of Blindness She is *presented* as a constant sociopath. She is not a real person, you see, and so I can only judge her from the basis of the story she is from, not stories she could have been in. In every instance we saw her, she was being an absolute madvillain. I get that in real life medically you can't be born a sociopath. I figure that she was written how she was written as a portrayal of what Zuko's father wanted from him, but not what his mother wanted from him. A way to further show the dichotomy between Zuko's parents and his influences.

As a result, there isn't really much room for redemption from a story perspective either because she serves in the story as a sort of reference point for Zuko's own redemption arc.

My point from the start is this bitch is irredeemable.

@TheD736 sociopaths are products of their environment, you can't be born as one unlike with psychopathy. Azula's definitely a sociopath but only because she was raised by the amoral and egomaniacal Ozai. she learned how to interact with people from her father who viewed everyone as beneath him so its only natural that she views people as little more than tools because her only role model in life was in all probability a legitimate psychopath. In essence Azula was never taught how to be human so it was inevitable that she would become a monster.

My own mother thought I was a monster…

She was right, of course, but it still hurt.

But Azula also was sadistic even from childhood, like how she abused the animals in the pond

@Sébastien Brand Humans are a product of their environment.  Also, kids aren't mean because they don't think about others.  They simply can't separate their thoughts and emotions from their actions.  The ability to do that is what makes an adult what they are.  The basic premise here is that our thoughts cause the emotions we feel and the emotions we feel drive our actions.  An adult can recognize when it's necessary to separate your thoughts and emotions from action, a child cannot.  E.G.  A high school teenager sees a girl he likes kissing another boy he doesn't like.  He THINKS, "why him?"  Now starts to FEEL jealousy.  Then decides to ACT upon that jealousy and punches the other boy in the face.  An adult can recognize these emotions and realize it's not a good idea to punch him out of envy.  They have separated their action from thoughts and emotion.  This is partly why so many young legal adults today aren't actual adults.  It was a problem for my generation in the 90's and it's an even worse one now.

I have always visioned that azula kills ozai sometime after her last appearance in the comics, after discovering something that he had head from her.

Lots of people arguing if Azula could have been redeemed.

Honestly, gonna agree with those saying she’s a irredeemable sociopath, but regardless of that it’s easy to love and sympathize with Azula’s character and personality. She’s really funny when she teases Zuko or team Aang, she’s highly competent, and she has just enough humanity within her that when we see her break down or lament the fact she doesn’t have real friends that we feel genuine pity for her.

@Jackhamr I read the comics. I felt mostly bad for what they put her through but you’re right in a way. She was going insane

If you read the comics you'd know she's an evil monster

@Sébastien Brand she isn’t a kid anymore, redemption where? If you are a psychopath, you cannot un-psychopath yourself.

@Eula gaming She isn't a psychopath. Watch the psychology of azula.

@Benjamin Simmonds It would have had to be rushed. They would have needed another season. Why? To establish points in her life or story moments or motives that were redeemable. Because by the end of the show as it stands, she had none. My point still stands that there is no point where we could have said she was "turned". I would argue she is presented as a pretty much born sociopath. That said, story is a matter of interpretation. Maybe I just interpret it differently to others. Death of the author and all.

@TheD736 the writers where going to give her a redemption arc, but they didn't have enough time or another season so they thought it would be to rushed.

Maybe Azula’s evil was just grown over time by Ozai, she did grow up with that guy her entire life.<br>Still don’t know.

Maybe Azula’s evil was just grown over time by Ozai, she did grow up with that guy her entire life.
Still don’t know.

Azula is like a school bully to me. Some bullies are just evil people and find enjoyment in hurting others. Some had troubled lives or were bullied themselves and wanted to throw their stress onto others (perhaps as a coping mechanism, to increase self-esteem by empowering themselves via towering over the weak.) You can’t really confirm either with Azula, because she just didn’t have an Iroh. There was no one for her to fall back on for help. Well… no one except Ozai. But we all knew when Ozai told Azula to be the new Fire Lord instead of helping him conquer the world, that Ozai didn’t really care about Azula, he only saw her as a tool.

Perhaps Azula was both pure evil and manipulated; she was just the lesser of the two evils (the other being Ozai), and the greater evil saw that in her and abused it. I don’t know and I don’t think we ever will.

@Sébastien Brand No, it's saying that from a storytelling perspective if there was any possible point of possible redemption to speak of they would have depicted it at some point in a flashback. They didn't do that.

All flashbacks show her being a lying, dangerous little child. Granted, I am sure many people lied and were little shites every once in a while in their youth. I was. Stole money from my ma once or twice to buy cookies. Bad kid. It's not fully representative of that person because there is a wider point of reference for a human being. I mean, people have like, their whole lives as point of reference, not just a few hours of animated cinematography.

 In reality, any small set of moments are not representative of the fullness of one's character, especially as a child. You're correct. In a story, however, what is shown to the viewer is all the information we have in terms of understanding of the character. It's all that exists. Anything beyond those scenes witnessed by the viewer is pure speculation. Ergo, I can't tell you one time Azula seemed redeemable to me, and thus it feels clear to me that there was no point in which that happened. If there was ever a point where she could have changed her ways, they would have shown it.

(It is fun to speculate though. I adore fanfiction.)

@TheD736 that's like saying that a person can never grow to become better or change, that you're born and bam! that's it no difference from 1 day old to 70 years old. <br>Also, kids are generally mean since they don't tend to think about others.

@TheD736 that's like saying that a person can never grow to become better or change, that you're born and bam! that's it no difference from 1 day old to 70 years old.
Also, kids are generally mean since they don't tend to think about others.

I dunno, she also mistreated her family and friends from a young age. Kinda makes it hard to blame anyone but herself when we have proof of it being a part of her character from the earliest visions of her.

Um no she's a psychopath. There is something clearly wrong with her thats more then just her family. The family stuff just made those issues worse.

@trarzene What about the love she wanted from her mother? And of course it is obvious she wanted to please her father as well

Watch The Phycology of Azula on YouTube bruh it literally explains things so well to me

Let's not forget that Azula is also a victim of Ozai and like Zuko at the start of atla, only wanted approval from the person they "looked up to". Maybe if Azula had her own Uncle Iroh she would've gone on the right path.

Azula is the little girl the one who you want to teach a lesson. Because you want her to reach a right path.

She believed in her father's path. She controlled people around her with Horror. She would either be the Power Maniac or Lunatic. And we all se she turned out to be a lunatic.

Azula is one of the pure evils in the ATLA with his father Ozai. It's no surprise we see her mental breaks down since she didn't have a strong will and mind like her father.

Sozin was Chad. He faced against Avatar Roku for his ideals. Azula never had to make such a choice to make her strong. So she become a "Virgin". But Zuko, he always made choices that have harsh consequences which made him a Chad.


Couldn’t get this out of my recommended, glad I eventually picked it up. What a masterpiece of a video essay..


what a good essay mr Emplemon, i give you a A-, not perfect score cuz some emotion in your voice would be appreciated


First video I've watched from EmpLemon. One of the better YouTubers I've found in a while


Joker, Zuko, Obito, Zabuza, Anakin/Vader, Harry Osborn, Snape and Itachi (idk if they count or not cuz they arent really villians but u def feel sympathy for them)

these characters are always some of the best in any series,