The fact that this video is still relevant today tells you just how bad the situation is. Only now, it's somehow even worse. Now we have YouTube shorts, which is just another cheap imitation of TikTok, further proving people are too lazy to click on videos made by small, up and coming YTers, but would rather just sit their asses down and swipe up to watch a continuous stream of talentless trend chasers who would willingly hurt themselves for clout. This is the state of YouTube. And as bad as it is now, it'll somehow manage to get worse<br>Edit: Yup. It got worse. Now they're removing dislikes because we dont wanna hurt anyone's wittle feewings. I hate this site

The fact that this video is still relevant today tells you just how bad the situation is. Only now, it's somehow even worse. Now we have YouTube shorts, which is just another cheap imitation of TikTok, further proving people are too lazy to click on videos made by small, up and coming YTers, but would rather just sit their asses down and swipe up to watch a continuous stream of talentless trend chasers who would willingly hurt themselves for clout. This is the state of YouTube. And as bad as it is now, it'll somehow manage to get worse
Edit: Yup. It got worse. Now they're removing dislikes because we dont wanna hurt anyone's wittle feewings. I hate this site


I love how the soundtrack is mostly progressive rock.


Ancient vid, but although alot of this can be blamed on incompetence, I do believe it also has to do with gatekeeping. Comfort is an endpoint most seek, and for coorperations that necessarily involves monopolies (since competetion is the most expensive part of running buisness and monopolies eliminate competion). And in order to have a monopoly, you have to own everything or have control over everything. Naturally, allowing individuals the freedom to rise ''unsupervised'' undermines the ability to create monopolies and have full control control. Now, EVERY little thing probably does not directly connect to gatekeeping, but it is worth noting that it is not uncommon to sneak in restrictive rules subtely through ''good intentions'' (in addtion to said ''good intentions'' not always playing out as intended either way). And regardless of which affects it the most, it never changes who benefits the most from these ''mistakes'' (hint: its 99% likely it is not you).


Emplemon, I... lack the words. To express how fucking true that is. That was so goddamn spot-on that I’m stunned. I usually don’t comment often on youtube, but I just had to for this. It’s important because really, as you say it, it’s counterproductive. Watching the shitty corporate youtube is a creativity-killer and awareness is necessary for people who seek to improve and lead a better life.

That’s just too fucking true, mate.

Damn.


As someone who is a major Pink Floyd fan, your videos have the best soundtrack of any youtube. But yah, four years later and pretty much none of the problems listed have been fixed yet. As long as Emp, Jon Bois, and co keep making videos I'll still keep returning to this site though


This video hits different now that YouTube Shorts is literally just uploads of Tiktoks and TV clips.

Most channels that do shorts to my knowledge (at least of those I'm aware of) are just highlights, or notable moments of longer videos that are linked in the description.


This video is 100 percent accurate. It's honestly really sad. Youtube went from the best place on the internet to one of the worst. RIP


I'm curious as to what Mr. EmpLemon thinks about YouTube today. After watching, I can say a lot of this still applies roughly 4 years later. But has it gotten better, worse, or stayed the same?

Not to defend the site, but regarding what he focused on in this video (algorithm and lack of variety in particular), it probably hasn’t gotten much worse than it was then just because of how bad it got.


The message of this video doesn't just apply to YouTube, this applies to everything creative


This guys use of music in his videos is amazing! I fucking love how you switch up the tone of the music for each part and when you choose to cut it out. Not to mention the volume change.


I loved early youtube. I really hate this corporate shit, it bores me. Thank you for addressing this.


I've always had this crazy idea. That because of the glut of "reality" TV programs from like 2009-2012, which has a strong correlation to the aftermath of the 2008 writer's strike, a good majority of people started to draw more of their entertainment from YouTube and other internet sources. Idk. Just seems a little to close timeline-wise to be a mear coincidence.


I happened to rewatch this vid right after the Rick Grimes one. (Both of which I'd seen before) and just the sereal backwards painful full circle between the two just elevates them so much higher to me. Makes the messages of each (that were already very strong) so much more powerful and imo important to the world and internet as it is now.


Bloody great video. It's exceptionally concerning that YouTube just keeps getting worse and worse. Hell, it's hard to say anything that you already haven't.

I'm lucky enough to have stumbled across a middle ground. While many of my videos have the 'popular sources' and slightly higher production quality than the average YTP, I'm still able to make whatever I want, whenever I want, and the audience (at least the vocal majority) enjoy it! Admittedly, I have been focusing on popular sources as of recent, but that's predominantly to keep the channel afloat during a period in which I lack the time to create stuff regularly.

I could easy make a Squeakquel every single day. Cold 656.3 could have released right now. But I just can't do it. I can't bring myself down to the level of the 'subscriber whores' who have drained all passion from their work.

I believe moving forward that, with a certain balance, we can still see worthy content creators broadcasting themselves without stooping to the lowest of the lows.

Gaming channel can have Highlights - properly edited personality driven segments where each episode takes hours to edit, not seconds (such as Funhaus). List channels can do the same - take Outside Xbox and Outside Extra for example; they create semi-regular content but the videos are driven by the down-to-earth hosts rather than the copied-and-pasted facts.

There are large channels which - while the subject may be as clickbaity as possible - still put a massive amount of effort into their videos. Hours of scripting, editing, and even working towards understanding their market.

+Numberer1 Yes but big channels that are putting much effort into their work are still not doing 'anything wrong'. Just like YTP's, if the content is great and time isn't repeatedly 10:00 to 10:30 then it would be amazing content. If the YouTuber who's content is repetitive and defys the rules i said earlier then its clear that they aren't doing nothing wrong. As i have my opinion and nobody can change that.


Emp, you make me not feel so alone. You give me faith that people can make sense. Please, never ever change.


Everything in this video is still sadly relevant today and I'm so glad you spoke about it to the extent of detailing the website itself!


the downward spiral! it's happening on twitch for a few years too it too is infested with normies and a ton of women do this weird ASMR and people just chat and watch YOUTUBE videos it's fucking stupid lol it's become less about gaming and more about the people and the clicks twitch like youtube only cares how much money you make not the creators both youtube and twitch has this issue i do wish more genuine people existed on both platforms there are a few but they hardly exist also i HATE the reminder of subscribing it's SO ANNOYING! i'm with emplemon on that part it's fucking everywhere holy FUCK! except subs on youtube are the same as followers on twitch and subs are the same as members on youtube been watching a ton of your content emplemon also a friend has been showing me YTPs and i used to be that guy and didn't give those a chance and MY LORD WHAT WAS I MISSING! Good lord i missed good content now i feel bad hating on them years ago w/o giving them a chance been really enjoying your commentaries though every one of those interest me i watched all the Geographic and never ever series i'm with ya on FUCKING NORMIES! i remember playing a video game on my GBA and people act like you aren't there or paying you any existent i kinda liked gaming not being mainstream. once things hit the mainstream it all goes to this like streaming and making content lol


This is 4 years ago and it still  holds up. I've watched some YTP recently and it was interesting because it actually told a story rather than using outdated memes.


YouTube 2005-2012 "Broadcast yourself"

YouTube 2013-2020 "Broadcast monitizable, kid friendly, idiot proof, quantity>quality, mainstream, corporate, soulless, heartless, copycat content"

This generation has only taught me one thing:

that originality is officially dead

2013-Now: "Broadcast whatever makes more money for us and makes almost nothing for you so we can shove more useless features that make things more corporate and heartless while demonitizing, censoring, blocking, and terminating channels that aren't corporations, oh did I mention entire corporations have channels now? Yeah. We're gonna make them the entire platform. Except for the people that are running their channels like a corporation."

You could probably find individual videos where people broadcasted themselves today, but if their goal is to make money, unless what they want to do already happens to be something that advertisers want to fund, then chances are they resorted to one of those templates to trend.

I think that its 2016-2021, because 2016 marks Susan becoming the CEO of YT, COPPA, the adpocalypse, the copyright/fair use abuse, and demonetizations.<br>Because 2012-2016 was the age of let's plays, streams, content creation with the dream of getting monetized (not just patreon or merch) was prevelant.

I think that its 2016-2021, because 2016 marks Susan becoming the CEO of YT, COPPA, the adpocalypse, the copyright/fair use abuse, and demonetizations.
Because 2012-2016 was the age of let's plays, streams, content creation with the dream of getting monetized (not just patreon or merch) was prevelant.

@Jeff The Skelly Boi your pfp looks like it's about to yell at me to eat the pizza

1 good thing came from 2013 is custom thumbnails for some people that could be a bad thing

2016 was the only resurgence of edgy actually funny content throughout 2013-2020, and it died really quick

@Jeff The Skelly Boi cant tell if you mean us, the word or USA but both work honestly

@MelecieDiancie "Broadcast what makes money for US"

correction: "broadcast what makes money for yourself"


lots of people here are saying that 3 years later it's still true and they were lucky to have this recommended to them. but now it's worse, not only was it 4 years, a friend had to share this with me i didn't get it recommended.

I got this in my recommended after seeing a few of his videos, and picking a number of drawn out videos.

But I’m probably in the minority arriving here through recommended.


This video was amazing to listen to in the background and then hear prog rock songs that I thought nobody else liked and immediately liked the video 100% better.

Very nice choise of music, it made me more interested in the topic the whole time :).

I mean I know this video is old and I doubt you'll see this but I just wanna comment this in hopes you do see it :).


This man was and is, ahead of his time, beyond the normie zeitgeist


4 years later and multiple watches, I just realized you’re playing an 8-bit version of Frankenstein by the Edgar Winters Group in the background. Absolutely fantastic


You might wanna make an update for 2019. Youtube has gotten worst

But first, an ad from RAID SHADOW LEGENDS.

But first, an ad from RAID SHADOW LEGENDS.

now in 2020 it is a hot steamy pile of shit

@Bruh Moment yep. Cant watch without my account

i agree, this site has gotten less interesting

The Playinghand Show... and with coppa about to kill us...

YouTube rewind 2019 coming soon be prepared

So, so, so much worse and it’s still going down hill.

I think that now youtube is mediocre, YouTube will probably never be as bad as it was from 2016-2017

this still holds up for the most part,he doesn't need to.

@M4RZ
Yea, this is why I'm adamant that YouTube is still getting worse, even though there's more good content than ever before. I watched a few newer poops (can't remember their names :( , but they were about that old "we're riding on the Internet!" and a  gamecube into music one) and realized that my tastes have changed, and that's fine.

But, there is still content that I do like, and even when I come across it and watch several videos, does anything similar show up in my feed? Nope! The same Reddit copy+paste stories (my guilty pleasure, sue me) and videos from channels I'm already subbed to, or videos I've already marked as 'Watch Later'! I don't expect the crappy-but-can't-stop-watching videos to go away, but at least diversify my feed, a little bit!
Accessing quality content is hard as hell now. I can't even check how many new uploads any single channel has put out (did you notice that was removed from the sidebar?) and without the Featured Tab, nothing I watch has any social aspect anymore; my friends and I all live in our respective YouTube-manufactured bubbles of content.

It's really sad, I can't remember the last time I enjoyed something like Evolution of Dance with a friend (that wasn't drama).

@Bruh Moment youd have to be on this site for longer if you want truly good content

@wearelive yeah in 2020 it would probably be suffering a tiny bit same with twitter they ban users for no reasons and let the bad ones slip away with it and also youtube is doing the same stuff pretty much.

Just here to remind ya' all that watchmojo has made a video titled "Top 10 Types Of Cheese" or smth along those lines and got thousands of views. They actually, unironically ranked cheeses in a top 10 list. And people fucking watched it. And left likes.

So yeah, I think the content has only gotten shittier over the years.

The Playinghand Show like putting 2 ads at the same time in a video

@Bruh Moment Sucks to be me. I've been on YT since 2014, and finally, about a month and a half ago, I've won the fight with the algorithm. My homepage was beautiful and interesting. And then YT deleted my fucking account. I didn't even receive an email saying why. I tried to appeal but I haven't received any response.

Sean Weeaboo yeah, that’s how I found this channel

The spelling in comment is just as bad as ever though, at least that'll never change

((12:59 Shadman "cameo" [background art] kek))

Given what happened because of a VOX editor's vitreal towards Steven Crowder's new shirt, yes. It has gotten a whole lot worse.

@Doom58 we all died and went to hell in 2014

idk bout y'all but i think the YouTube algorithm has gotten better, it knows me well and i find plenty of great videos to watch

like this one for the fourth time

atomic doomsday58 I think it was since 2012, when the copyright system was revamped. I vaguely remember that instantly caused a lot of shit, I remember that instantly bought forward this new type of drama and it set a major precedent.
I honestly think that affected the entire Internet as well and was a major thing that made all the corporatization, ads and limitations more prominent and "okay" because YouTube got away with it. It's getting kind of close to being a decade since this happened and things have arguably gotten a lot worse on YouTube and they still get away with it.

Don't get me wrong, corporations would still try to strangle the Internet if it were profitable, and they would get their way, but YouTube's decision was probably a huge boon for them. And I just really think that's when the site changed and you could tell the Internet would change and become an everyday thing, which means all the big companies and bigger restrictions came along too.

Really do miss when the Internet wasn't a normie thing frankly, really really miss when technology wasn't in EVERYTHING, this shit just isn't healthy and the Internet used to be better.

I just feel like peoples' standards are really low all around but I guess my misanthropic self (not in "fuck all people!" sense, no, I mean I really feel like I don't belong anywhere and would rather not suffer from human nature at times) is starting to just rant about people. Sorry.

@Bruh Moment It's not out of their control at all. Youtube just has to stop catering to such a small portion of shitty advertisers.

@Bruh Moment to be honest I can't blame him.

No need. That's why it's called Downward Spiral. Unless a better change has gone underway, no need to do make another video on YouTube.

but idk

The Playinghand Show creators need to stand up to YouTube

The Playinghand Show YouTube gone in a <b>D O W N W A R D. S P I R A L</b>

The Playinghand Show YouTube gone in a *D O W N W A R D. S P I R A L*

@Rafael Hinojosa they're being rushed by advertisers to make better copyright and offensive content filter so they don't look bad, it somewhat out of their control

I just love the fact that YouTube broke its own filter system

@Bruh Moment facts, ive been on this site for like 10 years and even still its hard to find good content, like this, that somefuckinghow the algorithm sent my way

After a year on this account, if u subscribe to the right people and watch them regularly enough, you can bend the algorithm to your will. But new ppl, ya they're screwed

The Playinghand Show it gets more and more worse each year since 2014


You made me comment. I really loved this one EmpLemon and the centre around the individual, being individual and not straying from the ultimate goal of making videos for the art of it, or as it’s more commonly referred, just making them cause you feel like it.
It’s really a good message and the message of youtube being in this unchanging forever downward portal is incredibly true and still so.

I really like your messaging and what’s funny is I came back after being alienated by no more YTPs from you and now that I’ve opened my mind to you and seen how you tick, innovating yourself into the person capable of giving these messages and these lessons?

Well, it’s inspiring ok.
I love you and I love people like you and I hope you and your heroism stays immortal. ❤

You made me comment. I really loved this one EmpLemon and the centre around the individual, being individual and not straying from the ultimate goal of making videos for the art of it, or as it’s more commonly referred, just making them cause you feel like it.
It’s really a good message and the message of youtube being in this unchanging forever downward portal is incredibly true and still so.

I really like your messaging and what’s funny is I came back after being alienated by no more YTPs from you and now that I’ve opened my mind to *you* and seen how you tick, innovating yourself into the person capable of giving these messages and these lessons?

Well, it’s inspiring ok.
I love you and I love people like you and I hope you and your heroism stays immortal. ❤


Am I glad I discovered your channel last week! You're a gem dude

Sucks most people have only started using youtube untill 2016


i feel like it's time to change to a different platform who actually care about the creators, and if there is none, we need to make it


It's almost been a year since this video was made and YouTube is still trucking through on that downward spiral, now they're cutting checks and begging "top creators" to stay.<br>I was a YouTube Partner since 2009, then February 2018 rolls around and they decide to end my partnership because they DGAF.

It's almost been a year since this video was made and YouTube is still trucking through on that downward spiral, now they're cutting checks and begging "top creators" to stay.
I was a YouTube Partner since 2009, then February 2018 rolls around and they decide to end my partnership because they DGAF.

and now they terminated mumkey's channel

AND NOW we have Article 13 (well it's not YouTube's fault it's happening but still)

@Ultimate Thot Slayer • 999 years ago check out BitChute chief

My god. YouTube has become shit. If I could only make one website in my entire life, it would be an alternate version of youtube with a similar algorithm to old youtube. I would call it "BlueTube"

@Viper Volkan I checked it out. It seems pretty cool. Hope y'all can pull through.

Holy shit I remember watching your Pi day parody back in 7th grade math class.

Zack Cyrus - they blacklist channels, mine probably ended up on the list after 3 of my not-so-PC videos were "blocked in all countries" by YouTube.

VaporwaveBoi 9000 it's Don't Give A Fuck


Videos like this are my favorite to watch because they challenge me and they speak from the heart. Finally a YouTuber that doesn’t fear controversy and just says what they think.Without diving too deep into conversations like politics. Thank God the algorithm brought up at least one of the Your videos!


46:11 literally 5% of people reached this point properly to hear this


I honestly wanna make YouTube videos for the fun of making something. I wanna talk about my interests. I wanna make people laugh. I wanna do something of my own creation. I don’t care if there’s 4000 or 40 people watching I wanna make stuff. I’m rebranding myself, I tried making classic old school lets plays but they weren’t fun to make to be honest. Instead I wanna make something well written and well edited, and I want to just put my personality out there for the hell of making something and sharing my talents and interests. I wanna bring back the charm of old YouTube through doing something relatively new


This man is protected by so many layers of irony that he is practically impossible to counter successfully.

Well I could counter him with that "please subscribe" gripe........ Cause I have seen many YouTubers post there analytics showing 90% or more of people watching there videos not being subscribed...... So he's wrong...... People do need to be reminded to subscribe

@Jordan Thompson I mostly meant it as a joke, but I do think Emp's insane styling is somewhat helpful in his arguments. It brings out his sense of humor, helping reach his audience.

@HoneycombLord but you mean his layers of irony counter his arguments yes?

@HoneycombLord sorry for the late response I don't regularly comment

Being covered by irony or foolishness or the latter, is a counter point within itself

Wilson Foster I'm one step ahead of ya. I was there before he was talking about acceleration.

You could say I accelerated towards his content.

Jordan Thompson Could you explain? I'm having a bit of trouble seeing what you mean.

By saying he has no counter you just dismissed the validity of your comment


This needs to be remade great video feels like times have barley change

but theres the point, every point emp makes in this video and may others is till relevant

same. out of the billion of vids on this site this video is easily in my top 10, I hope Emp makes a 2021 version especially since YT is trying to get rid of the dislike button/ counter


The youtube algorithim suceeds in one thing

Helping me find who emplemon is


bro this shit has been my fucking manual for 4 years, come back to this video so often that it's in my DNA

Same, I hope Emp makes a 2021 version especially since YT is trying to get rid of the dislike button


Truly a masterpiece, I can tell you have put in a lot of effort.


This video is just an endless hate-fueled, nuanced, well justified rant. A burning white core of hate. And i love it.

no name lel all it is is just him saying "well youtube is shit and keeps treating you like shit so just keep going!" But I agree with everything else in the video

There's also an inspiring message in the last six minutes.


7:20 this is why the internet is terrible. Just because someone points out that a YouTuber is making bad content and tries to give constructive criticism on how they can improve, people take it way too far and start telling everyone to hate on that YouTuber. Then it gets to the point where everyone hates him so much that they think it’s justified to start physically attacking him (doxxing him, etc.) and none of them think that it’s wrong to do that until the original person who accidentally caused all the hate call them out on it and tell them to stop.


As someone who watched through to the end, I salute you. Go out and be the best, my friends.


29:37 You know, this also parallels pretty well with YouTubers who does sponsorships. In fact, I'll make exactly that.

It just outstands me how the type of YouTuber would make one of their videos and complain, "Oh my god! How can Disney make so many live-action remakes? How can Nickelodeon make SpongeBob spin-offs despite Hillenburg saying that he never wanted the show to have any? How can Warner Bros. make a Space Jam 2 and have it be an hour long HBO Max ad? How can corporations do things for no other reason than to make money?" Than five minutes later, they're sponsoring ExpressVPN.  Can I ask something to you people who actually sponsor ExpressVPN, or Raycon Earbuds, or mobile games with microtransactions and pretend you enjoy the products. How does it feel? How does it feel knowing you're being used as a puppet by jackasses desperate for money who specifically design their products to appeal to more gullible pinheads like you. And how does it feel to realize you're such a predictable simpleton that it works just because of the paycheck they promise you. So go ahead, keep sponsoring shit like ExpressVPN. The shitty products by shitty people who view the people that sponsor their stuff as nothing more than their equivalent of the Geico lizard. Keep giving them attention rather than supporting things that are actually any good. Why do people nowadays give shoutouts to ExpressVPN? Why aren't they're more people shouting out YouTubers with less than 100,000 subscribers or movies and/or shows that they find to be underrated? Oh wait, people try to do that. But it's pointless because their videos get slaughtered in view count by the torrent of vapid, and unstimulating dreck this cite turns out on a daily basis.


11:08 wow, i've never heard of that before and i would LOVE if that were a thing today. So many other social media sites let you see what others have liked, except youtube. Would make finding new content SO much easier, more often than not i'm stuck getting recommended the same stuff over and over.


But you guys dont get it... this man is right. The attention span of these fools is the most sickening part of it too

That's because youtube is becoming a hotspot for children, which I think is where a good deal of this shit stems from. Kids will pretty much watch whatever mindless shit you give them as long as it's entertaining

Talk about something that shocked me. I feel really bad I was watching watchmojo.com only to realize they're a corporate business, not individuals.

plus i've watched his btm video all the way through, btm ruins alot things, that's why fantano hated him because he was doing something that he was doing, btm fanboy and girls of 9 years old to 10 years old need to sit their asses down and stay in school!


For the commentary part, at first I thought the content was actually getting better, but I see guys like Sen, Bowblax, Prison Mate Luke, etc. And it reminds me of how content on YouTube is getting worse and worse and how the creators are getting faker and faker. Not all of them are like this, but a majority of them are.


Bro i love ytps, and i hope more people respect this form of art.


This video literally described all of my thoughts about Youtube to a T. I always loved this website, but I never really liked the idiots who run it.  They reward people who covertly advertise their channel and false copyright flag jerks while showing no concern for their viewers and content creators who made them billions. You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become the villain I guess.


Bro, finding new content is so hard these days; even when you actively search for new shit, YouTube will constantly push shit on you that you've already seen.


Incredible analysis. Love your channel, and you have great taste in music


This guy is so good....<br>I just love his video essays

This guy is so good....
I just love his video essays


It’s kinda odd to see how Emp has changed over the course of the time, he’s kinda mellowed out over the years<br>Lol

It’s kinda odd to see how Emp has changed over the course of the time, he’s kinda mellowed out over the years
Lol


I gotta be honest, your content is really good background noise. i listened to a lot of your videos while drawing. dont know if your gonna take this as a compliment or an insult lol


When I watch a video and see that it is 30-40 minutes long, I think, "Oh shit, this is going to be boring and drawn-out," but then I say, "Wait, this is an Emp Lemon video. This guy makes good content and explains his point of view in great depth that is both enjoyable and education." So, I sit and watch these long videos and do NOT at all regret a single second. These videos are packed with such depth and emotion that I contently sit through the whole thing, clinging on to every word and watching his point manifest in front of me. It is like a history lecture that bring together the facts that contribute to outcome and makes it so clearly visible that you wonder why this even happened, the facts are right there. Excellent job all around, 10/10


brought a tear to my eye. I really connected with this video and felt all of what you said for the last several years


Its been 3 years and all Youtube has done to even remotely fix this issue is reduce the time require for bulk ads from 10 to 8 minutes


Still a great video, I love revisiting it the way I love revisiting great movies. Thanks Emp, you'll always be one of my favorites... Hey maybe you'll do an update video and revisit the seven reasons again?


"its not about telling them what you want them to hear. Its about telling them what they want you to say." - EmpLemon


I'm starting to feel it's not just Youtube that's starting to feel like television, but the Internet as a whole.<br>Anyone else just notice how we use the 5 or 6 same websites everyday?

I'm starting to feel it's not just Youtube that's starting to feel like television, but the Internet as a whole.
Anyone else just notice how we use the 5 or 6 same websites everyday?

Well, it has been like this every single year, with the rise of the presence of normies in the internet. What people used to do as owning their own blogging websites, to share with your audience, and forums where you could interact with other people of your same interest, now has been reduced to either being influential enough to lead people to these paths or find these niche websites all by yourself. Probably in the future even sites like newgrounds will be be hidden to obscurity just for another big, bloated social media where once again, posting the same trend over and over probably will make you somewhat famous. It is just a matter of time until this happens, but as a saying goes, everything good has to fade away, and it seems that is the future the internet is heading by.

Every single social media site is becoming more and more the same every passing day. I don’t understand why these companies make shit versions of features their competitors already have instead of trying to stand out. I know they are trying to steal users from other social media sites but come on. I highly doubt it’s actually effective.

I literally only use YouTube, a cartoon site, and a backend admin panel for a private game server. I hate twitch and social media.

@Notsy Zagts All the sites literally are known to steal content from each other. <br>What are you talking about?

@Notsy Zagts All the sites literally are known to steal content from each other.
What are you talking about?

@Notsy Zagts "If 6 sites have diverse enough content..."<br>They don't.

@Notsy Zagts "If 6 sites have diverse enough content..."
They don't.

If 6 sites have diverse enough content, who's to say that's limiting? How many websites should you use per day to consider the internet non-repetitive?  BTW, many more people out there use 1 or 2 sites/day; 6 is actually on the higher end of the scale.

@4nt return to the carpetmaking tradition

Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

Return to Newgrounds.

Yeah and tv is trying to be like the internet just look at nickelodeon now. Imagine growing up at a time like this

Monopoly's and governments rule everything and it sucks

yeah it’s a major issue with social media


The silver lining is that the youtube algorithm is picking out great channels for me now, I found this channel by clicking a random video I thought was just a low effort meme and LOW AND BEHOLD your videos are friggen amazing


I love how this is 4+ years old and still fucking relevant.


I don't know how to describe my thoughts on that video. The word that defines it the best is masterpiece


Man, this video aged so well, it’s turned to damn ambrosia.<br>I just wish the people of youtube saw it so they could get their shit together.

Man, this video aged so well, it’s turned to damn ambrosia.
I just wish the people of youtube saw it so they could get their shit together.


This video was absolutely worth watching all the way through, especially the motivational bit at the end. Holy shit.

I wonder how many people are going to be inspired by this, because I certainly was.

A good start would be a total flush of your sub page, start going out of your way to find small channels that are trying to be unique. If we can get enough people to do so maybe we can make a change.

I feel like making my iwn videos noe i might do it

This video actually makes me want to create something for once... <br>I used to think there was a specific way to do everything.... which led me to being frustrated and stressed and never ending up making anything because I was afraid of taking risks ... but now I'm feeling that I should take the risk... that I should do what I want and do it how I do it.  :3

This video actually makes me want to create something for once...
I used to think there was a specific way to do everything.... which led me to being frustrated and stressed and never ending up making anything because I was afraid of taking risks ... but now I'm feeling that I should take the risk... that I should do what I want and do it how I do it.  :3

SparkyPrick to be honest I thought it was the other way round. I thought BTM was good and emplemon was the guy ruining the memescape. I'm glad I was proven wrong :)

Jonah Beale I think this was the most creative, imaginative inspirational piece I have ever seen in a long time. This is like Colloidal is Crazy's type of content; Quality over quantity

Fuck everyone else - you wanna do a YouTube Poop? Then do it! I don't give a shit about the algorithm, I make the YTP's and videos I want at whatever length I want. I don't expect success out of it because that's not why you should be in the YTP game at this point, to be honest. Don't do it for "money", do it for fun.

This ship is sinking. Might as well go all out and have a good time before we drown.

I'm still motivated to do what I've been inspired to do, but I'll be taking a different approach to a few things because of what EmpLemon said. I've been wanting to do a true YTP for a while because of very small Youtuber Poopers that I'm subscribed to, but EmpLemon's remorse over the state of content is pushing me to start making it

Jonah Beale I'm amazed by the comments here. All are really passion felt and many of them are paragraphs long. People really care and its great to see the community response as well.


to all of those with short attention spans, youtube has this feature where you can speed up the video. Your welcome

People with those problems are far past the point of recovery


Make an updated version of this with all the shit that’s happend since 2017, I mean it has been 5 years


The ageing wine will get finer and finer as the years go by.


The way content recommended to YouTube viewers is like if a ton of independent Michelin Star restaurants were, for some freak reason, forced to compete with a fast food chain restaurant for patrons, and swapped their Chef’s Specials with kid’s menus to push the familiar and inoffensive flavors of fried bread and/or unseasoned meat rather than trying to sell the best lobster or steak or stew. If you remove price from the equation, it would seem like people would rather always consume the same food rather than branch out and try something special once in a while.

Could you imagine a world where everything we see, smell, hear, feel, and taste was like the way content is pushed on this site?


I've never had more respect for you than I do now Emp. This is one of the best and most detailed descriptions of what's wrong with this site I've had the pleasure of watching. I try to stay away from shitty TV like videos but the site seems to make it harder and harder. Thanks for making content like this, we need as many people like you on this site as we can get. I wish you luck, and until the dark day that the Adpocolipse takes away all the good channels left on Youtube never give up man.

-Godspeed


19:40 - 20:30

This part is still relevant in 2022, especially with Twitch reactors doing the same thing as the old reaction channels from the mid-2010s.


i seek out commentary videos that are over an hour long on purpose because videos of these lengths are ideal material to listen to while im making art while renewing my brain with new material to think about and compose opinions on certain subjects


That Bit about YouTube Trying so hard to imitate other Platforms just got a lot truer, with the release of YouTube Shorts literally Being a carbon copy of TikTok.


A video that goes specifically well with this one is "Youtube: A System Designed to break you" by NuxTaku. It takes a closer look at the algorith and sheds more light on how it messes with original, genuine content creators trying to make good content while also somehow making end meet. Despite having similar quality to this video, it's criminally underated because the channel usually doesn't talk about deep topics and thus, alienated most of its core audience. I recommend everyone to watch it. Keep the flame burning, educate yourself. As I see it, we owe this to the hard struggling content creators of this patform who've been fighting an uphill battle against their platform for over a decade now.<br>...just a thought, but would a content creator union be a possibility in any way? That's how employees (try to) limit the power of their employer. It's kind of a similar power dynamic for Youtubers and Youtube, isn't it? I can think of a lot of creator for whom joining this would be a nobrainer. Moist critical has already setup something that's kind of similar to this, even though if it operates mainly in secret.

A video that goes specifically well with this one is "Youtube: A System Designed to break you" by NuxTaku. It takes a closer look at the algorith and sheds more light on how it messes with original, genuine content creators trying to make good content while also somehow making end meet. Despite having similar quality to this video, it's criminally underated because the channel usually doesn't talk about deep topics and thus, alienated most of its core audience. I recommend everyone to watch it. Keep the flame burning, educate yourself. As I see it, we owe this to the hard struggling content creators of this patform who've been fighting an uphill battle against their platform for over a decade now.
...just a thought, but would a content creator union be a possibility in any way? That's how employees (try to) limit the power of their employer. It's kind of a similar power dynamic for Youtubers and Youtube, isn't it? I can think of a lot of creator for whom joining this would be a nobrainer. Moist critical has already setup something that's kind of similar to this, even though if it operates mainly in secret.


i want to go back to the true golden age of youtube, the age of reply girls

Watching Matt Koval's announcement about the removal of dislikes, I thought something was off.
The spoken words did not match the eyes. The video reminded me of an interview Admiral Jeremiah Denton gave in 1966. I have never seen a less enthusiastic, more reluctant announcement of something that is supposed to be great.

Calling the removal of dislikes a good thing for creators cannot be done without conflict by someone holding the title of "YouTube's Creator Liaison". We know this because there exists not a single YouTube Creator who thinks removing dislikes is a good idea -- for YouTube or for Creators.

Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it's not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed. Instead, there will be references to various studies. Studies that apparently contradict the common sense of every YouTuber.

The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can't be. In fact, most of it is not good. And that's OK. The idea was never that all content is good. The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that's not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.

The process works, and there's a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds. The process breaks when the platform interferes with it. Then, the platform invariably declines. Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre? Because nothing can be great if nothing is bad.

In business, there's only one thing more important than "Make it better". And that's "Don't fuck it up".

-Jawed Karim on Me at the Zoo’s description

I want to go back to when the world wasn’t a shit hole.<br>But thats not possible.

I want to go back to when the world wasn’t a shit hole.
But thats not possible.

@Kevin That was a long, descriptive sentence.

And yeah, ads can sometimes get louder than the content they are placed on.

I just want to go back to when you could watch a 60% of every season of SpongeBob presented with most of the already 360p video taken up by a still image frame with the episode playing in the corner as a square mask of the actual video with a shifting rainbow filter on top, panning around the frame of the show in a slow, but seemingly-random pattern with the audio phasing between channels and ducking out to mix in a random public domain sound effect every few seconds, and then every 30 to 60 seconds or so having a 5 second ad for a sketchy "watch any movie or tv show for free" website that was always 500% louder than the rest of the audio and so bit crushed to shit from being re-recorded with bandicam from other YouTube videos they had uploaded 500 times before on 500 different accounts that had already been caught and banned that when it screamed into existence on your (either CRT or LCD that could only be viewed within a 2⁰ viewing angle and with your head firmly anchored in place with heavy weights and ratchet straps) screen, each and every speaker, ear drum, window, and hymen within a 75 yard radius would shatter instantly if you didn't catch it and slam down on mute in time.

Ahhh.... The good old days.

I would like to say that better than wanting to go back, is to really bring it back to the present

@Colonel 100 oh youre talking about his channel i thought you meant his comments

@Colonel 100 i mean he's funny but it's more in the way that you don't actually laugh at him but more-so just think in your head "that's funny"

I don’t know what reply girls are, but I watched FilmCow’s Charlie the Unicorn, Marshmallow People, Llamas with Hats, and some other animations by him

Everyone was united in trolling the crap out of them haha

Sips is my dad but I guess Cyranek can be an uncle.

Those crappy cheap ass videos with shit quality and 009 sound system In the background I  miss them

You know times were good when reply girls were the worst thing on the site.

Ah. The puppet show of Master Cheif and the Arbiter...that shit had atleast 3 seasons when I watched it, and that shit would probably never fly theese days.

I wanna go back, I wanna go back, and I don't even know how I got off the track. It's time I got back.

Cyranek people thought they were bad this is worse

Charlie the unicorn. Also a great video.

I would rather have the god damn reply girls.

NEON they're everywhere, i still see them

ÂngeloPlays yeah I know because I have one

"account made in 2012" yeah really the golden age. right, Cyranek?

Cyranek i would shit my pants if you commented on my video

Maybe I should have a site similar to old YouTube, but with networking. That way, I'd actually have a chance to get a shitload of popular channels without having to do much other than put the work into it.

Ads ruined YouTube everybody knows that before money was introduced quality content was made

<b>slowly and non-sarcastically applauds that comment Cyranek just made</b>

*slowly and non-sarcastically applauds that comment Cyranek just made*

i wish i was born earlier to see the true golden age of youtube

Cyranek I actually used to watch the "Stupid Mario Bros" series though...


Been making the rounds on your content over the weekend and you've gotta have the most based music taste on YouTube, no one else would have the balls to drop multiple ELP tracks in a single video


this is somehow inspiring, it makes me want to create a way to go back to old youtube or something like that, i kinda wanna make my own platform that was something like old youtube or even something better. idk ill have to think about it more.


It's like anything else. The bigger something gets, the more corporate it gets. The more corporate something gets, the more it gets sanitized. The more sanitized something gets, the more everything looks the same.

It was like this for the internet as a whole, too. Every content creator had their own website until hubs started to form. Then everyone went to those hubs until social media took over. Now, everybody just spends all their time on YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, etc. There's no point in venturing beyond those corrals because everything they want is provided to them without having to forage anymore. The downside is that it's nearly impossible to draw any new audiences in to your content because everyone already has 4-5 places they go to on a regular basis; no sense expending any more effort looking for stuff.

I had a website back in the late '90s/early '00s. Was it revolutionary in its content? Of course not - just a bunch of video game reviews and stuff about game shows. I developed a circle of friends from that site, though, relationships I still have to this day. I just don't see how you can build that sort of community anymore. Everything's an ocean now, and if you're just a single fish in that ocean, nobody's going to notice you. I tried doing a YouTube channel back in the late '00s, but it's hard to get up the motivation when you look around and see that other people are able to produce better (or at least more polished) content on a more regular basis. Sure you can say you're doing it just for fun, but eventually if you're not getting the validation there's no point in putting yourself out there.

The most galling thing about all this is that to older generations, this sort of sanitization of the internet is exactly what they want. Not too long ago I had a conversation with my dad about the internet, and he envisioned precisely the kind of landscape we see today, where all your information and content come from a relatively limited number of approved outlets, rather than the Wild West landscape there was 20 years ago. And he looked at it as a good thing, because it meant the grown-ups had control. Well, this is what happens when the grown-ups have control: they stifle creativity and just churn out quantity over quality.

All I can say is: thank God for ad-blockers.

It's like anything else. The bigger something gets, the more corporate it gets. The more corporate something gets, the more it gets sanitized. The more sanitized something gets, the more everything looks the same.

It was like this for the internet as a whole, too. Every content creator had their own website until hubs started to form. Then everyone went to those hubs until social media took over. Now, everybody just spends all their time on YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, etc. There's no point in venturing beyond those corrals because everything they want is provided to them without having to forage anymore. The downside is that it's nearly impossible to draw any new audiences in to your content because everyone already has 4-5 places they go to on a regular basis; no sense expending any more effort looking for stuff.

I had a website back in the late '90s/early '00s. Was it revolutionary in its content? Of course not - just a bunch of video game reviews and stuff about game shows. I developed a circle of friends from that site, though, relationships I still have to this day. I just don't see how you can build that sort of community anymore. Everything's an ocean now, and if you're just a single fish in that ocean, nobody's going to notice you. I tried doing a YouTube channel back in the late '00s, but it's hard to get up the motivation when you look around and see that other people are able to produce better (or at least more polished) content on a more regular basis. Sure you can say you're doing it just for fun, but eventually if you're not getting the validation there's no point in putting yourself out there.

The most galling thing about all this is that to older generations, this sort of sanitization of the internet is *exactly* what they want. Not too long ago I had a conversation with my dad about the internet, and he envisioned precisely the kind of landscape we see today, where all your information and content come from a relatively limited number of approved outlets, rather than the Wild West landscape there was 20 years ago. And he looked at it as a *good* thing, because it meant the grown-ups had control. Well, this is what happens when the grown-ups have control: they stifle creativity and just churn out quantity over quality.

All I can say is: thank God for ad-blockers.

@Mattok101 DigitalTamer you can just use adblock on pc this doesn't fix anything for youtube itself

@Doom58 Basically just the YT app but ad free and has dark mode which is noice

@Mattok101 DigitalTamer how does this fix any of YouTube's problems whatsoever

Just checked your website bro, not bad. Hope neocities and sites like that will at least somewhat revive this kind of stuff.

Most of the ads are just for shitty mobile games

I think its ironic that your comment has less likes and replys than all the other comments because of the length of yours put people off. The whole point of the video is to be more mindful when using this website and people don't even bother reading the long comments. This type of comment represents the idea of what the video was trying to talk about; you put actual thought into your comment and it gets seeped under the rug by other "old you tube was so great." Your comment represents old youtube when you actually had to put thought and creativity to get noticed, now you get less recognition just because of the length something has to be to express your thoughts. Seeing this video makes me want to stop watching youtube because now I feel as if i'm feeding into some corrupt system that only wants my ad time and that's how bullshit youtube is, and I haven't even been on this platform for long enough to experience the gory days of youtube. I'm really glad you made this comment and  if you see this, I would love to talk about this in better detail and Thank You.

And the more everything looks the same, the more ripe it is to be replaced. Tiktok grew 300% last quarter, and Twitch is still rising. Youtube though, is at half of its peak popularity according to trends (despite their psycho expansion to other countries) and continually falling. The top site always seems unbeatable until it has bled enough that it starts stumbling. Just like AOL and Myspace.


The internet, along with everything else in the pop culture for most people, went downhill because everyone and their mother decided that stating their political opinions was more important than entertaining people. People understood what the entertainment industry was all about (it's in the name of course) but when BLM started in 2013 and when Trump was elected in 2016, everything became part of a ridiculous culture war that doesn't help anything and only serves to make people depressed. I'm not saying that politics isn't important but there's a time and a place for it and we shouldn't expect every living celebrity and entertainer to publicly take part in that discourse.


Great job highlighting smooth mcgroove as quality content. i love you emp lemon.


i love your vids and apreciate the hard work and editing you make. i don't care how long they are, for me it just matters if i like them. this is one of the best channels i've come across .


The ideal world for is that YouTube stayed as it was in the early 2010s/ late 2000s, I miss the memories of watching ytps and other channels and many of my old favourite channels and videos are either gone off the face of the earth or have gotten so bad and homogenized that I dont even want to look at them anymore. (To make it all short I want old YouTube back and hate how horrible youtube is today)


Definitely worth a watch to the end.

Making me miss 2008 YouTube.

I consider 2013-2015 (the era of Google+ Integration) the "Silver Age"

Youtube hadn't QUITE gone to shit, but it clearly wasn't as good as 2010-2013 (I don't remember being on YouTube before 2010).

I remember I once watched the "drinking out of cups" vid after my friend recommended it to me (for anyone ootl drinking out of cups was a viral video of an animation of a lizard while a guy was rambling, it turned out to be from a music album, but everyone believed it was a guy high on lsd in his closet, we believed it was an insane asylum patient) and I laughed so hard at that I couldn't sleep because my stomach hurt so much. Viral videos used to be fucking amazing.

@Matthew Champlain it lacks good content the layout is there but at the end of the day a site with a good layout but no content is useless

Still pissed me off. By that point youtube was deep into being cancerous commercial shite.

Geeeee8

Compared to 2019 definitely.
the year prior is always better than the current year when it comes to YouTube.

*Geeeee8*

Compared to 2019 definitely.
the year prior is always better than the current year when it comes to YouTube.

There are actually kids that believe 2014 to be some sort of golden age, despite the fact that youtube had already gone to shit by that point

@Matthew Champlain Thank you fucking thank you for your comment. I bet most of the young teens or children using the site pretend to be seen as "adult-oriented" or even "mature" to look cool yet they can't even comphrened or believe the golden state of YouTube back in 2008.

Just Salad yeah so we can prevent Susan from gaining control

Larry Sicard you have a lot of good vids to catch up on

Too bad I wasn't at the age for 2008 YouTube, because I was born in the wrong millennium! :,(


We'd be lucky if YouTube even considered taking the criticism their getting, not only from you but also from the countless others who have pointed out the flaws.


3 1/2 years later and we're still on the same downward spiral.


Granted I'm not the most sin-free viewer by your metrics, but when I watch a gaming channel, it's because they're good at a game I'm interested in, doing things I can't do myself. Alternatively, it's to find out if a game I might get is worth buying, because Youtube isn't the only thing on a Downward Spiral. And yeah, I do tend to watch reaction videos- of things I've ACTUALLY SEEN so I can enjoy someone else's first encounter with something I like. I don't understand people who consume media for the first time via reactors.


Thank you so much for this video it's giving me the push to start the channel I've been too shy to work on. Also, in defense of WatchMojo, while I do hate all the celebrity vids they do have a lot of content related to science, technology, videogames, and other nerdy shit. Your channel rocks, Emp!!


I love how EmpLemon knows when to stop fucking with a guy. He's one of the most aware, sane youtubers I've seen.

"I dont have any legit arguement/evidence to put out, so I just call him Nazi/Alt-right to attempt to discredit my target"

SirRilic He's not sane he's been on a <b>DOWNWARD SPIRAL</b>

SirRilic He's not sane he's been on a *DOWNWARD SPIRAL*

THANK YOU FOR HAVING FINGERS, A KEYBOARD, AND AN ACTUAL BRAIN

James Armstrong well said. For real, nowadays, people can't draw the line between actual, serious racism and jokes

+GasmaskAvenger
"(buying into borderline racist garbage /pol/ makes up and parroting it is NOT speaking your mind)"
He wasn't literally being racist. He was joking and got taken out of context.

SirRilic He's like the YTP Version of Pyrocynical. Both are very aware and intelligent

there's plenty of left. Look at social media and mainstream media. They are not an insignificant part of the culture. It seems that you're so immersed in it you just think it's the default.

Also Emplemon said he got crucified for speaking his mind, not that what he said was "nothing wrong". Watch the video.

That's not where my issues came in, as i'm not a fan of PC culture in terms of suppressing abrasive art. My issues are claiming that "JonTron said nothing wrong and was just speaking his mind" (buying into borderline racist garbage /pol/ makes up and parroting it is NOT speaking your mind) and buying into the bullshit non-existent "liberal media" meme (There's almost no real American left at all, its either centrist, center of right or so fucking far right, it fell off the cliff entirely). Everything else Lem said I 100% agree with

I don't usually like comments but something urged me to give this one.

Remember what keemstar did, he kept attacking pyro for no reason, and took it so far he said he was dating a 13 year old french girl, calling him a furry, and posting PRIVATE photos of pyro's face when pyro didn't show his face.

None of this video contain anything political really, just anger against YouTube. Even then your alright mate, just do not think everything is political

G33Tube If he isn't, then I apologize. I just disagree with a few things, but its no biggie. The overall message of the video is great, though.


let me just say that as someone whose probably a normie I really appreciate this content. so many others i'm subscribed to have lost what made them special due to algorithm changes and whatnot. Keep going strong bro


I'm glad someone actually cares about the state of YouTube right now.


I'm so happy that I've randomly found you! your content is much appreciated!


i love emp lemon videos, i just go back and rewatch all his videos in a few days then do it over again, maybe a nerd city vid or two mixed in


God I wish I was older so I could've been a YouTuber during the old era, I have so many ideas but low motivation to actually put them to work due to the state of modern day YouTube. It's like, why even bother anymore. It sucks.

This is why i love video essays because there isn't a massive massive crowd of people who make them

@DeltaFRFX same but in my dad won’t let me he’s strict.

@Delta Nwachukwu yeah but I wanted to make videos of my own :(

@DeltaFRFX than that means you watched it when it was good YouTube’s peak which was 2005 - 2013 so nothing to worry about

@DeltaFRFX huh interesting now tell me when did you start watching YouTube

@Delta Nwachukwu I'm 19 now, finally feel somewhat like I know who I am as a person. In the past I was still unsure of myself, and now that I'm sure the opportunity has passed me by, and I'm just sitting here wishing time travel existed...

How old are you now also I started watching YouTube in 2012 and it was great and I was 4 now it’s trash


This is the greatest, most inspiring video I’ve seen in a long while. I’m gonna bring these points up with the group I’m doing an office podcast with


29:08

My man, I agree with a lot of the general points of this video, but the scandal that JonTron was in around 2017 is not a good example for the point of creators ‘not being allowed to speak their mind.” I agree that creators should generally have a higher degree of open communication with their audience than they do right now, but JonTron said things along the lines of ‘America should stay majority-white’ and other vile shit. Not a great example of “unjustified canceling” or whatever.


The worst part is that no one disagrees. I could scroll for ages and nobody would even try to refute this. Everyone here agrees with this, but it doesn't matter because in the end, we are nothing before the bigger man, the advertizers, politicians, investors, etc. They don't care how wrong they are as long as it brings in money.


I was genuinely taken aback when he mentioned the date of the video, because he talked about all the same points that are causing trouble today. This video is timeless.


Well it's finally happened. The dislike button is gone... Dear God...


I see it never changing. Youtube became TV because TV works. At least there's niche bubbles of quality, even if they won't get the attention they deserve


this applies to every media nothing special. Music and Film have sucked so much in the mainstream like how YouTube suffered right now and I don't think it would changed. Independent content creators making genuine content are just buried by mainstream media which is disgusting


It’s kind of crazy that the whole Behind the Meme situation is what caused EmpLemon to change his whole discography of content, although completely reasonable.

Although it's not a common word, Vidography would more accurate because of the format.

Fucking suck's since I had to completely change my life goals after the entertainment industry became shit that youtube probably started


I love how these people get mad at him for making a 30 minute video. And now, they happily sit though 40+ minute expose videos.

Youre comment is a little bit confusing so I am going to respond to it a few ways

-"I love how these people dont like gamegrumps make 30min videos, but watch through EMPS 40 minute video"
One is filled with shitty gameplay and the other filled with a great script and editing.

"I love how people get mad at lemon for making a long video, then sit through a 40minute exposed! video"
I agree. :)


Yet somehow it got worse. I just have to wonder why is Youtube THAT incompetent, the only saving grace is we don't have Youtube Heroes, but coming up with that idea alone is baffling.


The term “Downward Spiral” has definitely been on a downward spiral


I've watched this video so many times. If it's a good commentary Ill just watch it like every week