So? Why don't we actually do something about this? Our culture at least realizes when some things are "bad", but ignores others. A simple change that happened recently that absolutely nobody talked about, was the change of the layout of the site, changing it to look like a complete carbon copy of google plus. I expected there to be an outcry, at least something about what the change meant on a business perspective, but no. Everyone just went along with it, constantly rewatching the same, boring, shitty content, and thought the site was perfect that way, even though it looked the exact same as something people actually took a stand to leave from, because they recognized it was bad.

My answer? Let the site die. Seriously. The main problem with this site, is that it's run by a megacorporation, AKA google, unlike its early days when it was at the very least, run by smaller corporations that actually cared about what their smart users, or users that weren't 5 actually cared about. The problem with megacorporations, is that they don't care what or who they have to step over to get even more money, although they're already one of, if not the richest company on the planet. They realize two things, and both of these are the only things keeping youtube alive right now:

1. Younger audiences: Youtube/google knows that a large amount of younger audiences watch videos on the site, and gooutube knows that parents of those younger audiences prefer showing their children something to distract them long enough for them to do something important, like go shopping, drive, ect, and go livid when they see something that makes a child think about life, things like seeing death, (Animals hunting other animals, smart shows and movies that show a character die, or a "scary" monster, ect) or watching things dealing with sex or other biological functions, even though they'll get those feelings eventually, but won't have any knowledge or anything on the topic, and won't know a thing about themselves, what they like, or what even to do safely, because parents nowadays just want their children wrapped in a protective bag, filled with nothing but flashy videos, "funny emoji compilations" and so on.

So instead of making a separate site, or using community feedback to change some things to make videos for younger audiences, youtube & google decided to make all content safe for children, even though a majority of their users are at least older than 16, and want something other than "99.9% OF HUMANS CAN'T DO THIS WITH FIDGET SPINNERS FT. ELSA AND SPIDERMAN PLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE" all day every day, and want to be able to think, and actually do something, and support real people making real content that they actually put effort into. If a content creator has one swear in their video, you might as well kiss them goodbye, as youtube/google will make sure they never get an add on one of their videos ever again. Oh, your favorite content creator actually made something shorter than 10 minutes? Might as well have a will written, as their content isn't long enough for their target audience anymore, no more ad revenue for them! Oops, a content creator used 0.001 too long of copyrighted footage in their video, that's a suicide note for the channel, as whoever had the footage to begin with will take down the video, channel, and all the money that creator got from their videos. "Sorry about that :/"

2: They haven't got a clue how society changes in our time: Now that its being owned by a megacorporation, youtube has thrown everything that made it successful out the window. Every animator, ytper, review channel, and anything else that actually needed to have people with braincells to use, is all dead, or at least, nearly there. Instead, youtube & google thought it was a good idea to capitalize on the "bandwagon" that is today's culture. Everything else is simplified? Make it a rule that content has to be carbon copy able, repetitive, bland, and unoriginal. "Gotta stay kool & Hip with those kidz nowadays, this is what 20 year olds talk like, right? Oh wait, they all lied about their ages when making accounts, and are all between the ages of 5 and 15? Let's not change what we got here, we got a good thing going." Everything seems to revolve around memes, fads, and technology? "Quick, we need to change the algorithm to be sure that we stay fresh, only suggest popular videos, not anything older than 3 weeks, who cares if we kill a bunch of channels and ideas in the process, we just need our money now!"

Once again, a megacorporation doesn't have a clue about culture and society, although there are a ton of memes that come and go, the whole thing will eventually fade out, leaving youtube without anything. Somethings are permanent, such as animators and review channels, because there will always be a need for those, people to talk about society as it changes, and talk about how good, or bad things were. Animators as well, as they add creativity back into whatever they post their animations on, as they generally make people think, either about how funny something is, about how weird certain things are, or about how we need to stand up to certain things. If youtube should be supporting anything, it should be those types of channels, as they actually will continue once these things die down. But, youtube, oh wait, I mean google, the company that owns youtube nowadays, only cares about money and add revenue, whatever gets newer people onto the site is all they care about, may as well forget about the older days of youtube, when all you needed was creativity, and an idea, not some mindless concoction that will be forgotten about in a week because something even newer, flashier, and dumber shows up.

And now, we reach the end. What can we do to stop this? Nothing. The only thing we can do, is let the site die, and take care of itself. Eventually, the children the site is pandering to right now will grow up, and want more mature content. Because of the way  youtube/google handled the site in our time, there won't be any mature content left, or only a small amount. People will leave the site, which is inevitable, this happens with everything all the time. What we could do, as a community of likeminded people, either animators, ytpers, or even the people who watch the content, is devise our own site, one that fills the niche of the old, pre google youtube, one where people don't have to be silenced due to big brother google wanting children to use the site. One that supports its small channels the same it would support its big channels, to be sure new ideas, and creativity is still being shown, and pushed. There's no need to try to save youtube, as there's no saving it. It's run its course, as all fads do. Although its mimicking TV as a way to out compete it, there's no way it can compete with television, at least not the way it is now. And hey, youtube/google may finally realize some day, that what their doing isn't right, both for the original content creators, the generation that they will have singlehandedly ruined, or their own business. But mark my words, for them to realize that is the day pigs begin to fly, mankind invents the flying car, and we land something onto the sun.

And the worst part is, nobody is going to read this. Nobody is going to understand the importance of this paragraph. Hell, even if it gets like 3 likes, enough to get to the bottom of the comment section, nobody's going to go and read all the way down there. Reading is for nerds nowadays, nobody reads things like these anymore. But you know, there is at least a chance, an almost insignificant one, but a chance I may be able to get this paragraph read, and noticed. Someone may see this and go, "You know, he's right. Maybe we should just abandon ship, find a new place, as its the smartest thing to do right now." But it won't. I don't mind, but it won't. That's just the facts as they are

EDIT: Okay so I guess people are sentient enough to actually sit down and take the time to read this, so disregard the last paragraph

The funny thing is, eventually the vapid shit created by shit youtubers drowned itself out, leaving the youtube landscape free for acutally creative videos to take their spot.

We've come full circle.

The funny thing is, eventually the vapid shit created by shit youtubers drowned itself out, leaving the youtube landscape free for acutally creative videos to take their spot.

We've come full circle.

This is the best comment on all of YouTube, not only because all of your points are right, but I can also relate to the last paragraph. I make huge comments, and I usually expect at least someone to read them, and most of the time, almost no one ever does. But when someone writes a recycled copy/pasted joke, they get thousands of likes. I think to myself "Do people like terrible jokes more than a comment that took much more time and effort?" and yes, that's true. I made a bad joke, and it got over 60 likes, compared to my comments that I put effort into, they get close to nothing. I think that people just don't want to read a massive wall of text, and that's fair, but they then go and read thousands of the same joke and call it "underrated comment". <br>I'm still going to make big comments, but I'm not going to have my hopes up in someone reading everything that I type.

This is the best comment on all of YouTube, not only because all of your points are right, but I can also relate to the last paragraph. I make huge comments, and I usually expect at least someone to read them, and most of the time, almost no one ever does. But when someone writes a recycled copy/pasted joke, they get thousands of likes. I think to myself "Do people like terrible jokes more than a comment that took much more time and effort?" and yes, that's true. I made a bad joke, and it got over 60 likes, compared to my comments that I put effort into, they get close to nothing. I think that people just don't want to read a massive wall of text, and that's fair, but they then go and read thousands of the same joke and call it "underrated comment".
I'm still going to make big comments, but I'm not going to have my hopes up in someone reading everything that I type.

You’re about right. There’s only one thing I disagree with is that the site for a large part revolves around fads.

You’re about right. There’s only one thing I disagree with is that the site for a large part revolves around fads.

yt isnt for profit really, its a deficit on google, however it offers great influence which is what they want to enact sociopolitical change they want

yt isnt for profit really, its a deficit on google, however it offers great influence which is what they want to enact sociopolitical change they want

@Mecha9 Sadly true, but one day I hope we don't have this dumb system. I mean, even when boomers and corporations are running these companies, they'll have to eventually give up their jobs to us millennials. If YouTube is still active in the next 30 years or so, it might be more different.

@Mecha9 Sadly true, but one day I hope we don't have this dumb system. I mean, even when boomers and corporations are running these companies, they'll have to eventually give up their jobs to us millennials. If YouTube is still active in the next 30 years or so, it might be more different.

I liked your 2 year old comment because it is still somehow applicable in 2019 youtube.

I liked your 2 year old comment because it is still somehow applicable in 2019 youtube.

@MalekitGJ still worth a read even if its talking about a unattainable goal like my Hope's and dreams

@MalekitGJ still worth a read even if its talking about a unattainable goal like my Hope's and dreams

@gl1tchygreml1n| Unless they are content creators who <i>want</i> to make videos for fun but work is getting in the way and they need to balance their fun hobby with recieving income. Getting paid from YouTube must be really convenient in that kind of scenario.

@gl1tchygreml1n| Unless they are content creators who _want_ to make videos for fun but work is getting in the way and they need to balance their fun hobby with recieving income. Getting paid from YouTube must be really convenient in that kind of scenario.

I really think more people need to read that. Nobody does YouTube to have fun anymore, they only do it just to get paid and so the majority of content isn’t fun to watch.

I really think more people need to read that. Nobody does YouTube to have fun anymore, they only do it just to get paid and so the majority of content isn’t fun to watch.

It's the worst with the 12 and under audience. At least current early teens were around in the good days and remember a lot of the quality, whilist the sub-teens were either born during/after the good times and so don't remember them, or were so young they don't remember anything before 2012.

It's the worst with the 12 and under audience. At least current early teens were around in the good days and remember a lot of the quality, whilist the sub-teens were either born during/after the good times and so don't remember them, or were so young they don't remember anything before 2012.

Someone should buy you a beer and some fried chicken.

Someone should buy you a beer and some fried chicken.

@A Pair of Upside Down Dragonfruits I hope so too I always wanted to be able to be a popular GOOD youtuber like oneyng back in the day but probably wont happen guess I'll have to be a factory worker or kms

@A Pair of Upside Down Dragonfruits I hope so too I always wanted to be able to be a popular GOOD youtuber like oneyng back in the day but probably wont happen guess I'll have to be a factory worker or kms

What really sucks is that things have only gotten worse as times have changed. Now the mega megacorp has tried to destroy every user that isn't toxic in their portrayal of everything. The toxicity of the site has only gotten worse, and the SHINING example is YouTube rewind 2018. The disgusting amalgamation of corporate figures and pandering shows just how out of touch the business is with its products and consumers. It really is sad, but a new site is bound to rise, and honestly, I hope it rises soon.

Because we atleast know basic english.
And we aren't the ones with the heads in the cloud. They are.
The cloud's are opaque. You can't see when the floor collapses.
I'm 14

Because we atleast know basic english.
And we aren't the ones with the heads in the cloud. They are.
The cloud's are opaque. You can't see when the floor collapses.
I'm 14

Jesus Christ that was long, but yeah, I read it all. Some of us Youtube consumers are still not braindead, apparently.

Jesus Christ that was long, but yeah, I read it all. Some of us Youtube consumers are still not braindead, apparently.

Making a new site is an amazing idea. But we need  coordination and support. Sadly, the community its too comfortable on this website and really wont help nor support any kind of new website, they dont like change, including youtubers

Making a new site is an amazing idea. But we need  coordination and support. Sadly, the community its too comfortable on this website and really wont help nor support any kind of new website, they dont like change, including youtubers

As Emp said, if you want more than 3 views you better post it to YT. We can all abandon ship, but that’s not gonna change anything but make things worse for ourselves

As Emp said, if you want more than 3 views you better post it to YT. We can all abandon ship, but that’s not gonna change anything but make things worse for ourselves

I agree with a lot of what you said but I still think this is just hopeless because of the nature of humans and corporations. This is a bitter and probably overly broad post, but the vast majority of people in my experience are just fine with the Internet, only use YouTube very casually, generally have low standards, don't like to ask for more because that means there are issues and people don't like even thinking about issues even within a selfish bubble.
But people don't know how much better things used to be, they probably wouldn't care for a lot of the old "weirder" stuff that isn't made for a broad audience anyway, they just start YouTube on their phone alongside other crap, they don't complain about how dumb the content on this site is so it's just fine for them, they're used to being advertised to, they're used to rolling over to the point they just claim most things in life "aren't bad" or "don't matter" if they even know what's happening, they don't wanna stand up nor do they have much power either (rallies can sometimes stop bad shit, but it's ineffectual way way way too often and tires people out before the next attempt by corp/government), and if the site dies (lol) then we'll get another one that just gets seized by corporations, ads and pandering (might even be worse as the corporations would be there at its inception).

Plus, if YouTube dies the "normies" will have to go somewhere, so they'll probably just infect a theoretical replacement site and again, things would end the same way.

At least on current YouTube we also have some legacy content, a lot of which would probably be completely wiped with the website and not archived or made way more difficult to find.
Because of this and since I don't think a new site would be better, I'd rather just have YouTube stay the big name than have it die and be replaced by the same thing.

The only hope IMO is to have a smaller video site for outsiders with more mature content and way less filtering- a smaller one, not really alongside or competing against YouTube because such a site would be more niche, but there for people to use. One that's big enough to actually have a userbase and good content but small enough that "normies" won't know about it and be pandered to, clogging up or degrading such a site toward YouTube's current state. I have no idea how it would sustain itself, because even with a smaller userbase, videos use a lot of space and video sites are probably really expensive and difficult. IIRC we don't know if YouTube itself is actually profitable to Google.

Or some sort of site that let you catalog kinds of content and properly sorted and recommended good YouTube content and maybe had a good space to discuss it would work. One that would encourage more personality, more real connections and be more open to "weird" content. Obviously it couldn't do every video, and it would be a fuck ton of work, but who knows. I feel enough people wouldn't use that though.

God bless you Xavier, you should start a YouTube rant channel, you are very well informed and well spoke.

God bless you Xavier, you should start a YouTube rant channel, you are very well informed and well spoke.

@Unknow0059 we dont need all of YouTube's users did you read the damn comment? It's only for the youtubers who care about making good content and let YouTube rot out

@Unknow0059 we dont need all of YouTube's users did you read the damn comment? It's only for the youtubers who care about making good content and let YouTube rot out

@TerrorByte newgrounds is kinda dead nowadays though the recent most viewed videos only get mabye 10,000-20,000 views

@TerrorByte newgrounds is kinda dead nowadays though the recent most viewed videos only get mabye 10,000-20,000 views

This is the longest comment I’ve ever seen

This is the longest comment I’ve ever seen

YouTube killed my hopes and dreams of ever making a animated series

YouTube killed my hopes and dreams of ever making a animated series

Xavier Horn if only people would actually follow through with the plan

Xavier Horn if only people would actually follow through with the plan

This comment could be it's own YouTube video.

This comment could be it's own YouTube video.

This is the best comment on any website in human history

This is the best comment on any website in human history

I wanted to make a animated series on this site for many years but due to the way the site is right now and the fact my animations won't get any recognition makes me want to quit what's the point of your goal if it won't even come true? This sucks

I wanted to make a animated series on this site for many years but due to the way the site is right now and the fact my animations won't get any recognition makes me want to quit what's the point of your goal if it won't even come true? This sucks

Just read through this entire comment and reply chain. I'm very glad I did. This 'by the intellectual for the intellectual' type of site is what we need. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the points made.

Just read through this entire comment and reply chain. I'm very glad I did. This 'by the intellectual for the intellectual' type of site is what we need. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the points made.

All you need to do is add the channel networking feature (maybe even make them via a system similar to Nationstates++'s puppeting), and I'll use that shit in no time.

All you need to do is add the channel networking feature (maybe even make them via a system similar to Nationstates++'s puppeting), and I'll use that shit in no time.

This probably been said by a lot of people, but I like to point this out. The only way I can TRULY see all of this happening is that the big shots that made youtube, finally leave. Then create a domino effect where all the others follow. All it takes is Pewdiepie to say [Snaps finger] "I'm not doing Youtube anymore", and everything will start falling into place slowly. Especially if there's a true rival to match up to not just youtube's ways, but THE CLASSIC way of Youtube. I'm talking going all out. Bringing back custom features in pages, streams sharing videos with your friends. Add that with streaming? Networks can still do their thing, but there's hardly NO restrictions like classic Youtube had!? It's a pipe dream, but something like that will fucking give Youtube the knock out punch, and truly kill it within months, MySpace style.

There's just one problem that kinda pisses me off but make sense..... People either not gonna leave for nostalgia, and still believe.... Or people just don't and are terrified to lose the money, and look for outside jobs again. They're too settled in to go back to that life, that they don't wanna risk it. and if the viewer's heroes don't wanna do it, why should they? I don't mean branching out and having videos on multiple sites. No. THEY WALK, AND UPLOAD STRICTLY AWAY FROM YOUTUBE. Cause the MOMENT they post something on Youtube, it's a sign that says "everything is okay." when it's not. The viewers can make a huge change, but it's not gonna go anywhere if the content creators are staying in the same spot saying to themselves "No it's okay, youtube better than ever. Youtube can fix their shit. Youtube ca-" i tell them to shut their face cause there is no hope.

Youtube lost it soul the minute the creators gave it to Google. I just wish they make a NEW version of Youtube where everyone can flock to there. It's not even worth the rant anymore. There's amazing talent still ready to be seen. However we can't see them anymore on Youtube unless it's a rare chance. They can keep their corporate hungry ghost of a website, and kill it by turning it into television. I just want a new youtube like site to finally see shit get wild again.

When you're forced to adjust your content to appeal,
that's when you lost the heart to make your works special.
That's what I always believe in.

This probably been said by a lot of people, but I like to point this out. The only way I can TRULY see all of this happening is that the big shots that made youtube, finally leave. Then create a domino effect where all the others follow. All it takes is Pewdiepie to say *[Snaps finger]* "I'm not doing Youtube anymore", and everything will start falling into place slowly. Especially if there's a true rival to match up to not just youtube's ways, but THE CLASSIC way of Youtube. I'm talking going all out. Bringing back custom features in pages, streams sharing videos with your friends. Add that with streaming? Networks can still do their thing, but there's hardly NO restrictions like classic Youtube had!? It's a pipe dream, but something like that will fucking give Youtube the knock out punch, and truly kill it within months, MySpace style.

There's just one problem that kinda pisses me off but make sense..... People either not gonna leave for nostalgia, and still believe.... Or people just don't and are terrified to lose the money, and look for outside jobs again. They're too settled in to go back to that life, that they don't wanna risk it. and if the viewer's heroes don't wanna do it, why should they? I don't mean branching out and having videos on multiple sites. No. *THEY WALK, AND UPLOAD STRICTLY AWAY FROM YOUTUBE.* Cause the MOMENT they post something on Youtube, it's a sign that says "everything is okay." when it's not. The viewers can make a huge change, but it's not gonna go anywhere if the content creators are staying in the same spot saying to themselves "No it's okay, youtube better than ever. Youtube can fix their shit. Youtube ca-" i tell them to shut their face cause there is no hope.

Youtube lost it soul the minute the creators gave it to Google. I just wish they make a NEW version of Youtube where everyone can flock to there. It's not even worth the rant anymore. There's amazing talent still ready to be seen. However we can't see them anymore on Youtube unless it's a rare chance. They can keep their corporate hungry ghost of a website, and kill it by turning it into television. I just want a new youtube like site to finally see shit get wild again.

When you're forced to adjust your content to appeal,
that's when you lost the heart to make your works special.
That's what I always believe in.

We should call it "Saturn Video," as it'll basically be godly. Also, it's possible that we may have to use the DarkNet.

We should call it "Saturn Video," as it'll basically be godly. Also, it's possible that we may have to use the DarkNet.

Xavier Horn I agree with this whole post(yes, I read it all.), so keep it up and continue to be woke

Xavier Horn I agree with this whole post(yes, I read it all.), so keep it up and continue to be woke

hey rllok! what happened to the site? It seems dead! we need people, content, and stuff!

hey rllok! what happened to the site? It seems dead! we need people, content, and stuff!

You are Right Xavier Horn

But Maybe just MAYBE Someone makes an alternative version of Youtube but the name is different and the algorithm is also  different

Edit: There is

You are Right Xavier Horn

But Maybe just *MAYBE* Someone makes an alternative version of Youtube but the name is different and the algorithm is also  different

Edit: *There is*

Xavier Horn Holy shit that was a great comment. Cheers to all of it. Well said.

Xavier Horn Holy shit that was a great comment. Cheers to all of it. Well said.

I completely agree with your sentiment on children's "protective bag". Children perhaps shouldn't be shocked or shown things that may disturb them before they can understand, but if they are sheltered completely these things - like death, sex, and every more specific form of difficult or serious human experience - will hit them like a frying pan to the face. I wouldn't be surprised if it contributes to depression... especially along with the responsibilities and expectations burdened at an earlier age.

Classic children's literature didn't shy away from death, and suffering, and fear. It wasn't Game of Thrones, but giving a rounded idea of life's experiences is important.

Anyway, thank you for writing your long comment.

Hey guys i just found this amazing comment, don't worry I can now keep track of the replies and express my opinions now that I've replied. For now I'll just lend my ears to you.

Hey guys i just found this amazing comment, don't worry I can now keep track of the replies and express my opinions now that I've replied. For now I'll just lend my ears to you.

+ChillTerumi Yeah you're right, they want "Funny crash bandicoot woah compilations part 1 funny vine videos"

+ChillTerumi Yeah you're right, they want "Funny crash bandicoot woah compilations part 1 funny vine videos"

" even though a majority of their users are at least older than 16, and want something other than '99.9% OF HUMANS CAN'T DO THIS WITH FIDGET SPINNERS FT. ELSA AND SPIDERMAN PLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE' all day every day, and want to be able to think..."<br>You're giving 16 year-olds -- no, humanity in general -- a little bit too much credit there.

" even though a majority of their users are at least older than 16, and want something other than '99.9% OF HUMANS CAN'T DO THIS WITH FIDGET SPINNERS FT. ELSA AND SPIDERMAN PLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE' all day every day, and want to be able to think..."
You're giving 16 year-olds -- no, humanity in general -- a little bit too much credit there.

Haven Barrow, ye please join us. ask rllok for details. I'd like for you to read my post in the discussion forum. It needs to be discussed

Haven Barrow, ye please join us. ask rllok for details. I'd like for you to read my post in the discussion forum. It needs to be discussed

Magnum BadGuy, we have a website. ask rllok for details.

Magnum BadGuy, we have a website. ask rllok for details.

Here's the problem though; where do we go?

Here's the problem though; where do we go?

Seems like a good thing you guys are doing here, by any chance could I get the link? I'd like to see what the site has come to be so far.

Seems like a good thing you guys are doing here, by any chance could I get the link? I'd like to see what the site has come to be so far.

Petition to call the new site OurTube? Like, "It's not YOUR tube anymore, corporate. This is OUR tube."

Petition to call the new site OurTube? Like, "It's not YOUR tube anymore, corporate. This is OUR tube."

rllok I'm curious, could you send a link so I can check this site out as well?

rllok I'm curious, could you send a link so I can check this site out as well?

nice comment
that was longer than the last essay i wrote!
...impressive

nice comment
that was longer than the last essay i wrote!
...impressive

Xavier Horn <br>I liked the comment and it said i couldn’t. Youtube is really about to die

Xavier Horn
I liked the comment and it said i couldn’t. Youtube is really about to die

New JerseyMapper in in the replies, you can find it there

New JerseyMapper in in the replies, you can find it there

New JerseyMapper, share your email with rllok and he'll give it to you. I think

New JerseyMapper, share your email with rllok and he'll give it to you. I think

I also decided to Create a subreddit called BetterYoutube that we can use to Discuss deeper into this.

I also decided to Create a subreddit called BetterYoutube that we can use to Discuss deeper into this.

+rllok Can I see the link I want to at least see if I can help.

+rllok Can I see the link I want to at least see if I can help.

+WaTcHdOg TeRmInAtEd  Probably just to remind parents that "Hey! You want something for your kids? Well bring em in, let them watch whatever!" So parents will naturally assume that the entire site is meant for kids, and then bring in the add revenue. Again, they're competing with TV (Which they're bound to lose) so they also would have to have another site to upload things for children literally less than 5 years old.

Then, what was the point of "Youtube Kids"

Then, what was the point of "Youtube Kids"

It's really just a vicious cycle, people won't leave YouTube, meaning a creator leaving would be a death sentence which means they make more content for this site which again keeps viewers here

It's really just a vicious cycle, people won't leave YouTube, meaning a creator leaving would be a death sentence which means they make more content for this site which again keeps viewers here

I am planning to make my own on Tor, but I need help on how to host it.

I am planning to make my own on Tor, but I need help on how to host it.

Master of Nothing I want you to read this post I made about that topic on a new website that was just created by rllok. If you could get him to email the link to you, you could read it and let me know what you think. But we need people like you to help us with this situation! THE SHIP IS SINKING!!!

I'm not sharing the link for two reasons:

1.) It's not my place.

2.) I want to keep it a strictly outsider website.

You know, he's right. Maybe we should just abandon ship, find a new place, as its the smartest thing to do right now.

In all seriousness, I agree with you 100%, good sir.

You know, he's right. Maybe we should just abandon ship, find a new place, as its the smartest thing to do right now.

In all seriousness, I agree with you 100%, good sir.

lol this comment section is probably longer than the video script itself

lol this comment section is probably longer than the video script itself

+rllok Someone will probably have to send it to me, as I did not see anything that enabled me to send it. Probably just add spaces to the letters in the URL and share it here, so others can see as well

+rllok Someone will probably have to send it to me, as I did not see anything that enabled me to send it. Probably just add spaces to the letters in the URL and share it here, so others can see as well

Alright, I am here. Will send it to you in a second, seems like a good thing we're doing here

Alright, I am here. Will send it to you in a second, seems like a good thing we're doing here

Brawlukk Gaming ok, I also have school tomorrow, I'm looking forward to talking with you on the website, thanks for the support

Brawlukk Gaming ok, I also have school tomorrow, I'm looking forward to talking with you on the website, thanks for the support

rllok sounds good and thx SOOO much, but I start school tomorrow and I must sleep. Thanks again for the subs and I hope Xavier Horn replies soon. How about we also move our conversation to the website discussion room in the future?

rllok sounds good and thx SOOO much, but I start school tomorrow and I must sleep. Thanks again for the subs and I hope Xavier Horn replies soon. How about we also move our conversation to the website discussion room in the future?

Brawlukk Gaming ok, all we need is Xavier Horns email, and thank you for subs, I subbed back

Brawlukk Gaming ok, all we need is Xavier Horns email, and thank you for subs, I subbed back

rllok Yes and u should probably email it to Xavier Horn as well. and btw... I SUBSCRIBED!!!

rllok Yes and u should probably email it to Xavier Horn as well. and btw... I SUBSCRIBED!!!

Brawlukk Gaming thanks, but did the link work?

Brawlukk Gaming thanks, but did the link work?

rllok alright thx that's an awesome start for a website!

rllok alright thx that's an awesome start for a website!

Brawlukk Gaming I'll email you from another account

Brawlukk Gaming I'll email you from another account

rllok oh yeah? bruh its midnight where I am!

rllok oh yeah? bruh its midnight where I am!

Brawlukk Gaming I'll try, but not now, it's 10:39 we're I am

Brawlukk Gaming I'll try, but not now, it's 10:39 we're I am

rllok alright. its not public then cause i dont see it. Can u just type it in letter by letter and ill just copy and paste it?

rllok alright. its not public then cause i dont see it. Can u just type it in letter by letter and ill just copy and paste it?

Brawlukk Gaming I posted the link twice, I'm not sure if it's public tho

Brawlukk Gaming I posted the link twice, I'm not sure if it's public tho

rllok, LINK or NAME OF WEBPAGE PLZ???!!!

rllok, LINK or NAME OF WEBPAGE PLZ???!!!

the eclipse was okay where I was. South eastern Ohio only got about 90% coverage so it didn't get very dark or cold or anything.

the eclipse was okay where I was. South eastern Ohio only got about 90% coverage so it didn't get very dark or cold or anything.

BTW, he66ll0 (Or Meme Lord) Is me, just on a personal account, cause the account i'm on right now is a family account

BTW, he66ll0 (Or Meme Lord) Is me, just on a personal account, cause the account i'm on right now is a family account

+Brawlukk Gaming As of writing this it is almost 8:00 am for me

+Brawlukk Gaming As of writing this it is almost 8:00 am for me

Xavier Horn what time zone r u guys in btw? its midnight where I am. I gonna "GO TO BED" rn actually

Xavier Horn what time zone r u guys in btw? its midnight where I am. I gonna "GO TO BED" rn actually

Xavier Horn that's great n all but lets just see what he's got before we get everybody's hopes up. We'll check out this thing and chat about it among the few of us for a while. When we feel the time is right we'll fully let it out of the bag and start to gather more followers. But the last thing we need right now is a mass exodus of sheep and a few men who know nothing about shepherding trying to lead them all.

+rllok Really? Post a link, I want to see it! Maybe we can spread the word, it won't compare to gootube in terms of making money, but we can at least make an effort to provide a safe, non-censored place for animators, film reviewers, and ytpers

+rllok Really? Post a link, I want to see it! Maybe we can spread the word, it won't compare to gootube in terms of making money, but we can at least make an effort to provide a safe, non-censored place for animators, film reviewers, and ytpers

rllok awesome! now u gonna share a link and/or whats the next step in this process?

rllok awesome! now u gonna share a link and/or whats the next step in this process?

hey rllok ma fam any luck/progess/hope yet?

hey rllok ma fam any luck/progess/hope yet?

+Xavier Horn
Not really gonna argue with you on that last part. The only reason I said that was just as a shitty joke, anyway. The only reason I do enjoy it is because of the dark theme, and literally nothing else.

But yes, you do have a great point with how YouTube was originally never about money (I was around for that, but I was in my late years of elementary, so I don't really remember very well). Thing is, though, there's not another platform to which we can move if we want to simply upload videos. Yes, we do have... uh... well, I'll get back to you on some examples, but there aren't many public video sharing websites that are as popular as YouTube (Gootube? GooTube? G+Tube? Ah, forget it), and that may be a major roadblock in being able to enjoy watching videos in the same way that we enjoyed watching YouTube.

Speaking of content creator friendly sites, I was thinking of something like Tapas

Speaking of content creator friendly sites, I was thinking of something like Tapas

rllok that's all we need. We just need something. But once the ball gets rolling... the revolution will begin and we will fight back!

rllok that's all we need. We just need something. But once the ball gets rolling... the revolution will begin and we will fight back!

Brawlukk Gaming ok, I'll try to do something, it's not gonna be top quality, but it will be the best I can do

Brawlukk Gaming ok, I'll try to do something, it's not gonna be top quality, but it will be the best I can do

rllok we might as well give it a shot and start while we can. U know how to set that up? I have a feeling people will slowly start to help us. Remember Emplemon talking about how Filthy Frank was only praised by a small fringe minority who craved more mature content, but a year later he became a much larger influence on YT? This could be a parallel to that scenario. Also I'm suggesting that we give this a shot, because I'm not one to just talk about things; I try to get them done.

Brawlukk Gaming true, but I think the closest we'll get to having an actual webpage, would be using google sites. Than all we need are people willing to do shit and focus.

Brawlukk Gaming true, but I think the closest we'll get to having an actual webpage, would be using google sites. Than all we need are people willing to do shit and focus.

+Dead GamΞr I have yet to fact check it, so it could be wrong (Like almost everything on the internet nowadays), but you would actually make more money by using Twitch rather than gootube, not mentioning the added censorship and lack of add revenue channels would get. You probably weren't around at that point, but the original YouTube wasn't about getting money. It was a place where people could upload videos, talk about things, and the like. It became the way we know it now, once money was added, as people now (And when money was added) thought it was an easy way to get free money, which Gootube is supporting. There's no point in trying to save the old YouTube, as Gootube has become the only thing left, only a shell of what YouTube used to stand for.

And to answer your last response, take a look at G+ right now, and tell me if the text and layout of the comment section looks any different from the text and layout of G+. It's almost the exact same, and Gootube knows that. They're trying to force feed you G+, on the only service they know people will use. There's no need for hate, I just thought people would have noticed that. And hey, if you like the layout, there's nothing wrong with that, enjoy it. Just remember a site that looked eerily similar to the layout/text got tons and tons of hate while Gootube does the same thing and has absolutely no repercussions

+Voult Bioy I believe I can answer each of those counterarguments, at least it isn't some mindless comment about youtube being the god of video services

1. My point exactly, people in history have always had minorities, people from different cultures that live(d) in places with a majority of another culture, scientists and artists have (had) different ideas on how to make certain things, or how things got to different places and the like, and now, differing likes for types of content. I wasn't meaning that we make a site for the majority, as there are plenty of sites and places in the world for them to do that already. I was suggesting something more like a hobby, a site where animators can upload videos and perhaps even make a profit, or film/game/tv reviewers can have a place to do it safely, unlike here on gootube. Historically, "outsiders" like us, have always had to make their own places, or do their own things separately from the "normies". People are going to have a cow when I say this, but take Jews that were in Europe historically. A majority of the people living in Europe were Christians, either Catholic and otherwise, and Jews had to put up with being mistreated by Christians, that believe(d) they were right (Which I am NOT going to get into, as I do not want this comment train to derail into which religion is the right religion).

2. You're right about this site continuing to grow, in fact, that's necessary to the point I was making. Like you put it, this site is in the snowball effect right now, where it is rolling down a mountain, collecting more and more snow as it goes on. Eventually though, even the highest mountain has a bottom, and once a snowball hits the bottom, it can only roll for so much longer, as it is no longer gaining momentum, not even mentioning the chance of the snowball landing on a surface on the mountain or getting stuck. Eventually, even the biggest things, both on the internet and real life, have an end. Gootube right now is nowhere near close to the bottom, or anything to snag on (Sadly), but it will eventually. It's better to at least have the option for people to be able to have their content elsewhere, so once it does hit the bottom, probably years from now, they can still be seen, or have at least some attention. And even then, TV is another good example of this. TV has had its ups and downs over the years, right now it is stable, perhaps declining a tiny bit more because of the internet. TV historically went through that snowball effect like crazy, in the US it was an increasingly common household item, and people were inspired by it, either went out to do good things because of it (Or bad things), or wanted to become an actor, but when the internet came around, specifically sites like the old YouTube, TV started declining again, for the reasons stated in the video, why would you pay to watch shows that aren't even good, when for free you can watch better content made by real people. TV continued its decline until it finally picked up a bit more momentum when it got creative again, people had a reason to go and buy cable, which jumpstarted what we like to call "Gootube TV/Kids". Not going to go more indepth on this one unless people want me to, but that's when Gootube started to get worse than it was in my opinion.

3. Exactly my point, Gootube hasn't the slightest clue on who to support and put in the limelight. Take a channel like Behind the Meme for instance, Gootube likes their content indirectly because he abuses a few important things on most of his videos:

Easily replicated
Kid friendly
Loyalty free music

The only thing he's missing is making them around 10 minutes long (Which I shudder to think about). Gootube also thinks things like the toy channels, and spiderman x elsa channels are fine for the same reasons. Since a lot of children lie about their age when making their accounts, Gootube thinks that 16-21 year olds actually like that kind of content, even though people very clearly within that age group in real life hate it. Take someone like Pewdiepie, who still is a large gootuber. A lot of people liked him, so gootube gave him a show, supported him, gave him a lot of stuff, and so on. But when those videos came out, (I feel like I don't have to explain, we all know what I mean) Gootube jumped on the bandwagon to make sure they didn't loose money for having an apparent "racist" being supported on their site, although they knew him from the start, and likely knew it was a joke in poor taste, thus leading us to the censorship we now have to deal with today.

And one last note, the ending to your statement is actually misguided, I have yet to check it yet, but I'm fairly confident that if one were to move to Twitch, they'd actually make more money than they would here on Gootube, especially if gootube tried to censor/block their revenue from going to them. Ask +SpencerAnimatics, as they were the one to give me the information

rllok that may be a good idea, but there's two things. One: I'm not good at that stuff. I'm only good at video making/editing. Two how do we get enough people to get together at the same time and focus? I could maybe make a video on my channel if we got a webpage going and I could try to pull people into it, but I'm a small channel and hardly anyone would see it.

Brawlukk Gaming I agree, I think that we need a decent amount of quality workers to work on this. But my question is about how we will acquire a webpage for discussion, maybe we can start a page on Reddit or something like that

Brawlukk Gaming I agree, I think that we need a decent amount of quality workers to work on this. But my question is about how we will acquire a webpage for discussion, maybe we can start a page on Reddit or something like that

rllok, while  what you're saying is true, we should keep in mind that we need a strong force of not just quality but a decent amount of numbers to make something work. Really what we need is a webpage where we (and by we I mean outsiders) can all brainstorm solutions to get rid of this epic disaster

rllok, while  what you're saying is true, we should keep in mind that we need a strong force of not just quality but a decent amount of numbers to make something work. Really what we need is a webpage where we (and by we I mean outsiders) can all brainstorm solutions to get rid of this epic disaster

Unknow0059 # we don't need everyone to leave. Users don't need to leave the site completely, they can upload on both sites or stay here. they don't have to move, and we don't need everyone to move, only the people who want to

Unknow0059 # we don't need everyone to leave. Users don't need to leave the site completely, they can upload on both sites or stay here. they don't have to move, and we don't need everyone to move, only the people who want to

Maybe we should make an alliance of video sites, called the "Central Powers" of Video Sites. That way, this alliance can invade sites that are slowly dying (PocketMovies?) and then involve a war where we could possibly end all of these years of YouTube's horribleness forever. Or at least until someone fucks it up again.

Hey Patwizard, I produce gaming content (see channel name). As an outsider, which you clearly are, I'd like for you to take a look at my channel and tell me if its bad. (Actually I wouldn't mind if other outsiders would take a sec and look at my channel) Because the last thing I want to do is put out normified content. I want to make good stuff. I know my style won't be the same as that which you watched in 2008 but if you wouldn't mind just giving me some comparative insight between my channel, other gaming channels today, and those from the good ol days.

I can't agree with you more, I've always thought that there is no way to fix this fuckin site and it needs to die, I'm sure something else can replace it, all big corporations don't give a flying fuck about anything except money and ways they can make it faster, that's just how all big corporations are... Valve, Google, and a lot of the AAA Gaming companies don't give a fuck about quality, its just about the money despite the fact that they are some of the richest people on the planet.

Xavier Horn You, my friend, deserve a trophy for being one of the few smart people left on this site.

Xavier Horn You, my friend, deserve a trophy for being one of the few smart people left on this site.

I started watching youtube videos back in 2007-2008 when I was a tiny little kid. I always enjoyed gaming content. All we had at the time was a Wii so Super Smash Bros Brawl was the coolest thing for me at the time. I watched whatever came up when I searched "super smash bros brawl". Whatever came up on the side of the video would be something original, interesting, unique, and I was always fascinated to see whatever was on the site. These were just videos put up from a guy who would pick up his camera and start recording. Not only did I find the entertainment side of youtube, but I also found the technical side. Finding an easy video tutorial for a video game was the best. Sometimes I would even watch the youtuber's series of tutorials or them playing through a whole game. It was then that I got into lets plays. Keep in mind that these weren't what you think today when you hear "lets play". They didn't even have a custom thumbnail, an intro or even the uploader saying "subscribe". It was just random kids fucking around in a video game with their friend while commentating, and I loved it. I was inspired. When I got my first youtube channel (about 2 or 3 years later) I started filming my dog, my video games and anything I wanted to show to the world. I didn't care about views, all I cared about was putting fun content out. Over time youtube started becoming unhealthily ad focused, and as I got a new channel and started uploading gaming videos, I noticed changes. Standards were being made. Youtube seemed alot less person oriented, and probably the biggest red flag was the removal of "broadcast yourself" from the logo. There was a shift occuring, youtube saw an opportunity, and this is when the focus towards ads started taking action, however I was still little and I enjoyed any content following my favorite topics. Only until 2015, was when I noticed problems. This site was stale as fuck. Luckily, channels like Leafy, Pyro, keemstar, Idubbz, H3h3, and filthy frank were on the rise. They were something different. maybe because I'm "edgy" but they appealed to me. They were shifted towards an older audience, and like EmpLemon stated regarding old youtube, they weren't afraid to blast their opinion. This is probably when I fell back into youtube, and enjoyed all the "drama" that unfolded. Some say it was bad at the time, but it did create excitement, which was what I was interested in. When adpocalypse shutdown people from not being "kid friendly" it think that's what caused the final "kick" that made youtube a shithole again. Not that it wasn't terrible, but do they need to keep digging the hole deeper? what's next? Of course, what do I know? I'm just some clueless guy on his computer.<br>God, that rant felt good.

I started watching youtube videos back in 2007-2008 when I was a tiny little kid. I always enjoyed gaming content. All we had at the time was a Wii so Super Smash Bros Brawl was the coolest thing for me at the time. I watched whatever came up when I searched "super smash bros brawl". Whatever came up on the side of the video would be something original, interesting, unique, and I was always fascinated to see whatever was on the site. These were just videos put up from a guy who would pick up his camera and start recording. Not only did I find the entertainment side of youtube, but I also found the technical side. Finding an easy video tutorial for a video game was the best. Sometimes I would even watch the youtuber's series of tutorials or them playing through a whole game. It was then that I got into lets plays. Keep in mind that these weren't what you think today when you hear "lets play". They didn't even have a custom thumbnail, an intro or even the uploader saying "subscribe". It was just random kids fucking around in a video game with their friend while commentating, and I loved it. I was inspired. When I got my first youtube channel (about 2 or 3 years later) I started filming my dog, my video games and anything I wanted to show to the world. I didn't care about views, all I cared about was putting fun content out. Over time youtube started becoming unhealthily ad focused, and as I got a new channel and started uploading gaming videos, I noticed changes. Standards were being made. Youtube seemed alot less person oriented, and probably the biggest red flag was the removal of "broadcast yourself" from the logo. There was a shift occuring, youtube saw an opportunity, and this is when the focus towards ads started taking action, however I was still little and I enjoyed any content following my favorite topics. Only until 2015, was when I noticed problems. This site was stale as fuck. Luckily, channels like Leafy, Pyro, keemstar, Idubbz, H3h3, and filthy frank were on the rise. They were something different. maybe because I'm "edgy" but they appealed to me. They were shifted towards an older audience, and like EmpLemon stated regarding old youtube, they weren't afraid to blast their opinion. This is probably when I fell back into youtube, and enjoyed all the "drama" that unfolded. Some say it was bad at the time, but it did create excitement, which was what I was interested in. When adpocalypse shutdown people from not being "kid friendly" it think that's what caused the final "kick" that made youtube a shithole again. Not that it wasn't terrible, but do they need to keep digging the hole deeper? what's next? Of course, what do I know? I'm just some clueless guy on his computer.
God, that rant felt good.

We can't, but if it gets to be more bullshit than what we can tolerate, or as OP said, loses touch with its younger fans as they grow up, Youtube will fall out of favor. From that point, it's just a matter of someone passable stepping up to the plate, and woosh. Cycle begins anew, maybe better overall next time.

We can't, but if it gets to be more bullshit than what we can tolerate, or as OP said, loses touch with its younger fans as they grow up, Youtube will fall out of favor. From that point, it's just a matter of someone passable stepping up to the plate, and woosh. Cycle begins anew, maybe better overall next time.

+MegaSuperab<br>Did you even bother to read his comment? I suggest that you actually do, as he brings up an amazing point.

+MegaSuperab
Did you even bother to read his comment? I suggest that you actually do, as he brings up an amazing point.

The thing is... how can we make a competitor to youtube? We would need to organize a mass exodus with all the users, and it would require the support of all the channels, and we would need a site able to handle that.

The thing is... how can we make a competitor to youtube? We would need to organize a mass exodus with all the users, and it would require the support of all the channels, and we would need a site able to handle that.

Now that we got that out of the way, we can discuss the actual topic of the comment

Now that we got that out of the way, we can discuss the actual topic of the comment

Dead GamΞr welp, we only have two choices now, move to another site, or stay here and slowly rot and decay

Dead GamΞr welp, we only have two choices now, move to another site, or stay here and slowly rot and decay

Xavier Horn too long, summarize it as, we will sadly never reach the goal of making YouTube great again

Xavier Horn too long, summarize it as, we will sadly never reach the goal of making YouTube great again

+rllok<br>If only it was that easy... The sad truth is, there's really nothing we can do.

+rllok
If only it was that easy... The sad truth is, there's really nothing we can do.

We need to start a new site, and ditch this one, if we start something new, than we can do whatever we want. We don't even have to pay anyone. If we do this, we will have complete control over the site, and we could make just like old YT, No one can stop us.

We need to start a new site, and ditch this one, if we start something new, than we can do whatever we want. We don't even have to pay anyone. If we do this, we will have complete control over the site, and we could make just like old YT, No one can stop us.

+Xavier Horn That's actually a really good idea.

+Xavier Horn That's actually a really good idea.

Xavier Horn Honestly, I couldn't agree more. YouTube -- I mean, Google won't change on its own. WE have to start a new site. As you said, YouTube is beyond saving.

Xavier Horn Honestly, I couldn't agree more. YouTube -- I mean, Google won't change on its own. *_WE_* have to start a new site. As you said, YouTube is beyond saving.

I love youtube, I really do. I've been using it primarily for entertainment for years. However, what you said is true. It's just time to sit back and let this site slowly eliminate itself because of its own greed. There's no saving it at this point, they aren't going to listen to what we say. As long as they're making money from all of this advertiser friendly content that's just spoon fed to children, they have no reason to.

As a 24-year-old white male in 2017, growing up after the housing bubble and living in the shitty economic times that we do now, it's <b>really</b> hard to not think of the end result when making videos. Just knowing that I won't grow in any significant way, and seeing everyone else be so much more popular than I can probably ever hope to achieve, destroys any drive I might have to create videos. If I'm not spending time dedicated to a 9-5 job, it feels like a waste.

As a 24-year-old white male in 2017, growing up after the housing bubble and living in the shitty economic times that we do now, it's *really* hard to not think of the end result when making videos. Just knowing that I won't grow in any significant way, and seeing everyone else be so much more popular than I can probably ever hope to achieve, destroys any drive I might have to create videos. If I'm not spending time dedicated to a 9-5 job, it feels like a waste.

Great comment. Alright boys it's official, we have to let this site burn. Like all good things that we once loved we have to say goodbye. Maybe pornhub will take Emp's content.

Great comment. Alright boys it's official, we have to let this site burn. Like all good things that we once loved we have to say goodbye. Maybe pornhub will take Emp's content.

You're saying let this site die and this site "doesn't know how society changes in our time" and "It's run by kids"
Here are my counterarguments:

1.  Were are just a minority of people who can actually think independently, there's more of them than us, this site wouldn't've  flourished if THEY, sheeple, extroverts were the minority.

2.  This site will continue on growing. As this site gets more popular, more sheeple and extroverts and kids will come here than ever before, because "Hey! It's where all of the other people are, so it must be good", it's JUST like the snowball effect. The YouTubers won't go anywhere since most of their core audiences are here and will not be willing to move.

3.  YouTube doesn't know how society changes, but the content creators do. I don't think it's YouTube who's creating the content, but the society, the thing YouTube "doesn't understand." If something on YouTube changes, people will adapt to it.  And continue on with their lives. Hell, look how many changes YouTube has gone through and it's still better than ever before, it's only going to keep on expanding.

SUMMARY:
YouTube will most likely not die out and will continue on flourishing with the "snowball effect", bringing in more kids and more sheep. And if by the off chance it would, if people would move to somewhere like Vimeo, the revenue would be multiple times worse than that on YouTube and would probably have to get a job and upload less frequently or just quit entirely. YouTube is the best video streaming site and will probably stay that way for a long time, even with it's multiple flaws.

You're saying let this site die and this site "doesn't know how society changes in our time" and "It's run by kids"
Here are my counterarguments:

*1.*  Were are just a minority of people who can actually think independently, there's more of them than us, this site wouldn't've  flourished if THEY, sheeple, extroverts were the minority.

*2.*  This site will continue on growing. As this site gets more popular, more sheeple and extroverts and kids will come here than ever before, because "Hey! It's where all of the other people are, so it must be good", it's JUST like the snowball effect. The YouTubers won't go anywhere since most of their core audiences are here and will not be willing to move.

*3.*  YouTube doesn't know how society changes, but the content creators do. I don't think it's YouTube who's creating the content, but the society, the thing YouTube "doesn't understand." If something on YouTube changes, people will adapt to it.  And continue on with their lives. Hell, look how many changes YouTube has gone through and it's still better than ever before, it's only going to keep on expanding.

*SUMMARY:*
YouTube will most likely not die out and will continue on flourishing with the "snowball effect", bringing in more kids and more sheep. And if by the off chance it would, if people would move to somewhere like Vimeo, the revenue would be multiple times worse than that on YouTube and would probably have to get a job and upload less frequently or just quit entirely. YouTube is the best video streaming site and will probably stay that way for a long time, even with it's multiple flaws.

Boi, i just found a top comment that isn't complete cancer.

Boi, i just found a top comment that isn't complete cancer.

Xavier Horn Thank for reading me the entire HARRY POTTER SERIES

Xavier Horn Thank for reading me the entire HARRY POTTER SERIES

Peridot The Crystal Clod Do what you want. I'm not stopping you.

Peridot The Crystal Clod Do what you want. I'm not stopping you.

Great, admirable article.
I assume you are self aware.

Of course we can't do anything, that's why we never see paragraphs the length (I'm considering this as an article) of my friend's writing exam final. We keep it to ourselves and watch it play out, while also knowing whatever we say will be blown away like sand in the desert.
I'm glad you shared your thoughts

Kromonex maybe, but I think it's a good idea for me to start off on Newgrounds,and then maybe branch off to another site.

Kromonex maybe, but I think it's a good idea for me to start off on Newgrounds,and then maybe branch off to another site.

This is by far the longest comment I have ever seen mass-upvoted on a YouTube comment section. Wow.

This is by far the longest comment I have ever seen mass-upvoted on a YouTube comment section. Wow.

Xavier Horn unfortunately it seems in our day and age, Corporate culture has infected most all forms of media, whether it be youtube and other streaming sites or networks of TV, Videogames, Movies, even Weebo Garbage (that i very much enjoy) etc. It seems as  though the struggle of the thinking peoples of society, or just those who aren't so inept that they can't crave deeper content, is to simply work for your enjoyment, with the garbage drowning out what good there is, the burden is placed on us to hunt for the quality ourselves, because in the case of YT dying in a few years or so down the line, YT is just the surface behind the problem, it's just the face of corporate corruption, which seems to be almost an inevitable eventuality for most forms of media, and so if some golden savior of quality were to come around, their success would likely eventually corrode back to where we are now with corporate culture decaying good content, so on and so forth for eternity.

The only real way to work around this is to do the heavy lifting of hunting for that content we all desire so deeply for ourselves, costs too much time money and energy for the souless husks of businessmen uptop to want to do that for us anymore (if they ever really did in the first place)

top 10 anime plot twists: this comment gets the top comment, and i read the whole thing.<br>should we abandon ship and find a new site? maybe? yes? we just need a site that's stable enough to handle lengthy and high quality videos

top 10 anime plot twists: this comment gets the top comment, and i read the whole thing.
should we abandon ship and find a new site? maybe? yes? we just need a site that's stable enough to handle lengthy and high quality videos

Ur boi Gerald Try out Vidme. They are probably the closest we're going to get to old YT. They openly make fun of YT too.

Ur boi Gerald Try out Vidme. They are probably the closest we're going to get to old YT. They openly make fun of YT too.

MageBurger I hope that Newgrounds will keep being relevant, I'm some way or another, I watched this video yesterday and now I realized that Newgrounds is the better option for someone like me who's going into animation, compared to YouTube, since I would probably never get noticed anyway.

MageBurger I hope that Newgrounds will keep being relevant, I'm some way or another, I watched this video yesterday and now I realized that Newgrounds is the better option for someone like me who's going into animation, compared to YouTube, since I would probably never get noticed anyway.

+Xavier Horn, I totally agree but we need a plan if we want to do anything. I suggest we make a page somewhere, <br>like redit, where we gain traction and plan further. We will need emp's, as well as others with influence, help to cast a net over as many outsiders and good content creators as possible without getting many of the YouTube scum.  Then, once we get enough people on board, we can move to a site like twitch, as we wait for a new website, and use tags (like [YT]Namegoeshere) to find each other and so we don't disturb the website. How we would make short videos and comment on them on twitch, I do not know. In the meantime, if a new site takes to long to surface we can start a campaign on a site like kick starter. Of course this is only an idea, but a good place to start.

+Xavier Horn, I totally agree but we need a plan if we want to do anything. I suggest we make a page somewhere,
like redit, where we gain traction and plan further. We will need emp's, as well as others with influence, help to cast a net over as many outsiders and good content creators as possible without getting many of the YouTube scum.  Then, once we get enough people on board, we can move to a site like twitch, as we wait for a new website, and use tags (like [YT]Namegoeshere) to find each other and so we don't disturb the website. How we would make short videos and comment on them on twitch, I do not know. In the meantime, if a new site takes to long to surface we can start a campaign on a site like kick starter. Of course this is only an idea, but a good place to start.

Xavier Horn A lot of people need to watch this to understand the problems with YouTube especially GradeA UnderA.

Xavier Horn A lot of people need to watch this to understand the problems with YouTube especially GradeA UnderA.

You know why Youtube is on a downward spiral. Money. The fucking second Youtube started paying people when they made videos on this site is when it all became like The Simpsons. Creativity went down and people have no other choice because they make money no matter how bad they do on a video. Getting sick of this shit.

Xavier Horn this is the YouTube equivalent to colonizing mars

Xavier Horn this is the YouTube equivalent to colonizing mars

Truly a thought worthy if an Emplemon comment section. Take my thumbs up, you beautiful magnificent bastard.

Truly a thought worthy if an Emplemon comment section. Take my thumbs up, you beautiful magnificent bastard.

Google is just absolute shit nowadays i hope this site dies and they go bankrupt

Google is just absolute shit nowadays i hope this site dies and they go bankrupt

the one thing you’re wrong about in this essay is you stated that “people won’t read this”, but now you have 272 likes and nearly 30 replies.

the one thing you’re wrong about in this essay is you stated that “people won’t read this”, but now you have 272 likes and nearly 30 replies.

Xavier Horn his comment was as long as this video, gj :D

Xavier Horn his comment was as long as this video, gj :D

As long as there are 2 year olds there will be youtube

As long as there are 2 year olds there will be youtube

Yeah, this won't happen. YouTube's got all this history and if we tried to create a new site that was like the old YouTube, we'd still not have the same content as YouTube has.

Yeah, this won't happen. YouTube's got all this history and if we tried to create a new site that was like the old YouTube, we'd still not have the same content as YouTube has.

The thing is, many people are ingrained into this website, and moving to another site would be quite difficult.

The thing is, many people are ingrained into this website, and moving to another site would be quite difficult.

+Tajealos Exactly my point. From past experiences we know youtube/google to have done absolutely nothing, (In some cases make it even worse) in response to anyone trying to convince youtube to save itself. I thought about making another site, but several people commenting here are correct, both Twitch and Newgrounds likely would be good enough to either evolve into the next youtube, or allow us to survive until the next site that is hospitable comes around

To quote MST3K,<br>"ABANDON TOY! ABANDON TOY!"

To quote MST3K,
"ABANDON TOY! ABANDON TOY!"

SpencerAnimatics
That's... actually a really good point.
Well, time to spread the word I guess.

SpencerAnimatics
That's... actually a really good point.
Well, time to spread the word I guess.

If all the gaming channels move to twitch they will not only make more money but 50% of youtube's ad milking will be completely gone. It'll send them a message and give us an easier time of jumping ship to a new site.

If all the gaming channels move to twitch they will not only make more money but 50% of youtube's ad milking will be completely gone. It'll send them a message and give us an easier time of jumping ship to a new site.

Poison Dart
You really think they'll do anything about it though?
Not to shoot down your idea or anything, because there's a small chance they could actually listen, but the last time I recall something similar happening (cough GradeAUnderA's"Make YouTube Great Again" movement cough), Youtube Google did fuck all.
The only result was Grade's inflated ego because his hashtag got mentioned in a tweet.

Poison Dart
You really think they'll do anything about it though?
Not to shoot down your idea or anything, because there's a small chance they could actually listen, but the last time I recall something similar happening (cough GradeAUnderA's"Make YouTube Great Again" movement cough), -Youtube- Google did fuck all.
The only result was Grade's inflated ego because his hashtag got mentioned in a tweet.

Is anyone else thinking that it would be cool if newgrounds attempted to take youtube's eventually vacant spot?

Is anyone else thinking that it would be cool if newgrounds attempted to take youtube's eventually vacant spot?

Xavier Horn People it's are getting lower and lower so it's unlikely youtube will die

Xavier Horn People it's are getting lower and lower so it's unlikely youtube will die

Xavier Horn My god, I agree with you. I want to change things, I'm sick and tired of YouTube and Society. They have become desensitized to everything and yet try to censor. Although having our own site will be extremely difficult because there will be no incentive to actually go to that site. "What is this site doing that YT isn't?" is the main problem and having Exclusive Content seems to be the best choice but then again you'll have to pay for it and even then it may not suit the styles of the majority. Honestly, YT will never die out and we can't do anything at least at the moment...

As I said, if we jump ship we mine as well start 24/7 threads in /pol/ and /bant/ and link the video files there.

As I said, if we jump ship we mine as well start 24/7 threads in /pol/ and /bant/ and link the video files there.

"Why is the comment too long? Why can't you just surmise your analytical and deeply detailed comment into something even a 3rd grader will understand? Why can't you just pander to the majority who would rather be unchallenged and entertained?"

-The people EmpLemon was talking about

"Why is the comment too long? Why can't you just surmise your analytical and deeply detailed comment into something even a 3rd grader will understand? Why can't you just pander to the majority who would rather be unchallenged and entertained?"

-The people EmpLemon was talking about

Xavier Horn that was as buetiful as the grand canyon

Xavier Horn that was as buetiful as the grand canyon

Is there a way to favourite comments? Because fuck me, that was probably the most accurate analysis of this website that I've ever read.
Everyone boycott YouTube Google and head over to  Vimeo, I've heard they could do with some more viewers...

Is there a way to favourite comments? Because fuck me, that was probably the most accurate analysis of this website that I've ever read.
Everyone boycott -YouTube- Google and head over to  Vimeo, I've heard they could do with some more viewers...

Didn't read, but still gave you a like because you put alot of effort into your comment

Didn't read, but still gave you a like because you put alot of effort into your comment

+Fletcher Reed Although financially I can not right now, what I proposed was to make a new site in general, one that specifically caters to "outsiders" such as animators, newer content creators, ytpers (Although it would have to be called something else, since they aren't on youtube anymore) and so forth. It makes it easier, and better for those people to find a living. Besides revenue collected from some sources, you could donate directly to the people you watch, and a like or view would actually mean something, as opposed to here on youtube

well,that's right.<br>Youtube's worst mistake was to make the site a huge kid's sandbox. Really,most of youtube's users are kids nowadays,and youtube seems to be absolutely ok with it. Why? Because kids are kids,you can give to them whatever the fuck you want (at the condition that it is "*family friendly*) and they'll enjoy it, even if it's made with the least efgord possible,and that's what google exactly wanted from youtube, earn money as fast as possible with the lowest amount of effort possible. Now,that the adpocalypse happened, youtube is trying to piss off the channels that are supposed to entertain people above 9 years old, and this is the end of the original youtube,of how it used to be

well,that's right.
Youtube's worst mistake was to make the site a huge kid's sandbox. Really,most of youtube's users are kids nowadays,and youtube seems to be absolutely ok with it. Why? Because kids are kids,you can give to them whatever the fuck you want (at the condition that it is "*family friendly*) and they'll enjoy it, even if it's made with the least efgord possible,and that's what google exactly wanted from youtube, earn money as fast as possible with the lowest amount of effort possible. Now,that the adpocalypse happened, youtube is trying to piss off the channels that are supposed to entertain people above 9 years old, and this is the end of the original youtube,of how it used to be

+Xavier Horn Uh, I just read this, and while my brain hurts, I think you did a good job. But we all know we're not going to abandon ship just yet, because...well...where would we go? Vimeo? Dailymotion? None of those will ever reach such heights as YouTube. Well, maybe they eventually might, but it would take a while.

+Xavier Horn Uh, I just read this, and while my brain hurts, I think you did a good job. But we all know we're not going to abandon ship just yet, because...well...where would we go? Vimeo? Dailymotion? None of those will ever reach such heights as YouTube. Well, maybe they eventually might, but it would take a while.

<b>takes a deep breath and preapares mentally to read this all</b>

*takes a deep breath and preapares mentally to read this all*

+The Gunslinger I was referring to us making another video service, one that caters to users who actually have a brain, while the rest of the youtube users can watch their content while it slowly dies over the course of as soon as like in the video, 5 years or so. Basically, I meant that us users with brains would need to abandon ship, and swim to shore, before the boat sinks

Xavier Horn Well fucking said, you deserve more upvotes.

Xavier Horn Well fucking said, you deserve more upvotes.

Sadly that won't happen because like was said most of the viewers are Kids or completely brain dead. People with the competence to just let it die, would not have an impact. Unless you mean we just watch it's downwards spiral into trash TV. In which case aren't we already doing that?

Sadly that won't happen because like was said most of the viewers are Kids or completely brain dead. People with the competence to just let it die, would not have an impact. Unless you mean we just watch it's downwards spiral into trash TV. In which case aren't we already doing that?

You are the smartest person on this site.

You are the smartest person on this site.


One good side of Youtube evolution has been the large number of educational videos available on the platform. That being said I still miss the good old days as well.


Sad about dislikes being removed? Don't worry. The algorithm will tell you what videos are good to watch :)


Good video, really made me think about what I was wasting time on this site for hours on end watching stuff for the hell of it. Keep up the good work :)


You... have... my respect. I always wanted to talk about that topic, but never had the balls, soo has many other YouTubers. But you were one of the few that said, enough is enough... you have the power to do better, YOU HAVE POTENTIAL, don't waste it. You can change this. All you need is to do something, at the right place, and at the wrong time. If you don't understand my philosophy... ask me, and you will get it.


Holy fuck, this video is 4 years old and aged like wine..

YouTube HAS become a vapid wasteland, and the sad thing is people can't see it..

I still like Wrestling With Wregret, Nostalgia Critic, AVGN, Rerez, various NASCAR channels, Armchair Historian, and the like


I think YouTube should have a tab on the home page to feature small channels, a lot of talented people have to claw their way to the top by selling out to trends or selling their soul to some bigger channel


What’s great is that so many great creators will come and comment on this video before they explode. We’re seeing them before they’re popular.


dislike count before youtube hid it all: 2552

HMMMM HALO REFRENCE????

but the 2.5k ppl who disliked work at youtube or they're the bad channels


Fucking glorious, as always. I'm young but I was able to "grow up" on the creativity of YouTube and it sucks that what was once my favorite website of all time and main source of entertainment has been turned into a small handful of big youtubers doing the same content with no improvement over the years and everyone else either copying them for the hope of a tiny drip of success or trying to be unique and being crushed under the sheer weight of mediocre mass-produced videos. I recently found a really nice channel with only 10 or so subs that does really calm and relaxing analytical videos on games, and avoids the AVGN syndrome of screaming and flooding the content with skits, and I know that despite me liking his content and content similar to his I would have never found him if he didn't share it on other better platforms. That's just fucking sad, that the only hope to discover small channels is to hope you hit that 1% chance per day or scour the obscure corners of reddit. What YouTube should be doing is signal boosting small channels and instead of spoon-feeding everyone the same videos everyday they could get many people to spread out and fine the niche they never knew they would love.


There’s a lot of youtubers that need to see this


Honestly, somehow this video is still true, even in 2021.


Im very thankful to have seen this video youtube is still god awful its really sad i honestly was thinking of obeying to the algorithm and shit but this vid makes me want to do what i want so i am gonna do that imma make the animations and shit i wanna make so i can have fun and good content instead of just bad so thanks for this video i do hope youtube changes but thats very unlikely i just hope places like newgrounds can stay up because their a better vers. Of youtube the only thing i can think of thats ig "bad"? Is that there is not enough like irl stuff like comedy sketchs and stuff an example is what SuperMega does

also lets plays can be really good but their very boring the only like good ones are small channels like i think theres one named embozone whos not the best but i think he will get there but yeah thats it cya


lots of this video is that one James Acaster quote: "I've never been so offended by something I absolutely agree with"<br>Keep up the good work man!

lots of this video is that one James Acaster quote: "I've never been so offended by something I absolutely agree with"
Keep up the good work man!


You actually seem to care about your content and treat it like art. Honestly, keep doing what you're doing, you're better than 99.9% of the trash uploaded on this site.

Pioxys I think the difference was that the shit back in the day people was that people took a risk on there content and it just didn't work out they weren't trying to cash in on some trend to get the youtube revenue.  I called this shamless almost robotic form of entertainment  the assembly line form of entertainment  and it's whats plaguing Hollywood or the music industry. they just spew bland shit to appeal to mainstream so they take out the soul of great entertainment, risk and boundary pushing. The good news is that with the internet good content does exist you just have to look harder to find it.

Mightypie I Hate Everything is also an amazing channel. He actually seems to be a genuine great person as well. His content is really satirical and funny and mocks YouTube or whatever he's discussing in his videos.

That's what made me love Youtube the most honestly in the past. Even those that were deem "shitty content".  Even shit in that era was considered a piece of art. Not the shit we see today that's bland and repetitive. Back then people actually tried to make quality shit, an it was shit, but hell that shit was beautiful... and grossly bad, but it still held our classic standards on what made Youtube fun. Back then, it was to create a legacy, not corporate cash.


💙💖💜 I watched this before starting my Channel, and hoped that if i made High Quality, well edited voiced work that fame would come; Only a Monacle of success came from it. being an Independent Animator on youtube(HAHahahah!)

I was afraid i'd sell out my unique beleifs and style for money, but this video of yours has motivated me to stay true to myself. Thank you Emp.


On top of Youtube Gaming, Youtube Red, Youtube TV, they also added Youtube Shorts, which, 'surprise!' is essentially TikTok.


Comedian and (new) podcaster here...  I've just started listening to you today.  I used to make videos as a kid back during the era you're speaking of, and I've been considering starting again.  This was really inspiring.  Thanks.


I think when this video was uploaded YouTube videos were especially decadent and shitty, but the content has gotten somewhat better over the years, mostly due to talented people with established audiences from other platforms (Twitch, Spotify, TikTok, even Instagram) defeating the algorithm due to their prior popularity and uploading good content.

This is especially visible in gaming content. The stale Let's Plays mentioned here were killed by streamers uploading their highlights and some short and focused YouTube-exclusive content. The "commentary videos" with random gameplay on the background were replaced by more-or-less well-edited video essays such as this one.

But the basic problems mentioned by EmpLemon still stand. It's basically impossible to become famous on YouTube now, you're wasting your time as a small content creator if you're here instead of literally any other platform.

Sooner or later this fundamentally parasitic character that YouTube has acquired will have to be addressed or it will be overthrown by a better copycat. Probably TikTok if it plays its cards well, since you may not like it but it does have the "Broadcast Yourself" and "discover new content" vibes of early YouTube.


I don't know what this video was to the rest of you, but to me, this video has been a wake-up call. I shouldn't be doing things just because they are there to do, I should do them because they are fun, enjoyable, or make me think. I should be doing what I want to do, not what others tell me I should do. I no longer will watch shitty stuff to excess, turn a good thing into a bad thing because i watched it too many times, or just waste my time doing things that aren't making me happy. I will do what feels good to do, and what will make the world around me and myself better.

to me, this is what the btm video SHOULD have been. this video doesnt have anything to do with him, but it adresses the problem emp has with his kind of channel.


The fact that they removed dislikes makes this even sadder


This aged well after the whole QuantumTV crap that's been happening recently


Somehow when you think youtube finally puts the final nail in the coffin, they somehow find a way to make it worse

@Manic Maniac what shocks me is people are still fucking using it

It's now less a coffin and more an iron maiden.


This is especially scary when the people in charge are so far to either side of politics that they loop to the other end.


On fucking point.
It's incredibly saddening to see the state Youtube and its average viewers are in right now.
You brought up just about everything that's wrong with this site.


I have watched this video at least 3 times today. I genuinely believe that this is the most powerful video on the website.


I watched the entire video <br>And I wish there more YouTubers like you 👌

I watched the entire video
And I wish there more YouTubers like you 👌


It's fascinating, here in 2021 watching this and trying to decide how much of this is still relevant.


It really feels like everything fell apart when Susan became CEO


This is THE greatest 50 minute video I have ever seen and is sooooo understandable. I'm still struggling as a small creator but thank you for your inspirational quote at the end to carry on, find something original and locate your passion.

Tenatic-X this video is far better and far more important but the leafy one is good

dang... i've done skits before and i feel the kind of pain you might've felt. Just setting up a lot of stuff for a few seconds of a scene is a huge pain lol.

Tenatic-X that’s good. I do feel a little bad for you though since animating is a lot of hard work and it’s very time consuming. Most of my videos are skits or short films so I just have to get some friends together and we can film a few videos at once.

very true. i started trying to move away from the numbers, and just enjoy the process of animating or editing, and making my pretty non-existent fanbase happy. :)

Tenatic-X yeah it's hard to grow a channel. For me personally though it doesn't bother me all that much because I mostly do it for fun.

Tenatic-X oh sorry I thought you were talking about your content I was giving constructive criticism

atomic doomsday58 yes thats what i said in my own comment. I quote "find something original"

Tenatic-X well a lot of people are doing what your currently doing you need to make something that NO one is doing is what he meant


This is a an extremely good channel. I needed this


man.
you tried to warn us about youtube's downhill.
now, looking back at it. this video aged well.


> "Since when did just doing something become passable to you people!?"
Since society stopped demanding anything out of the young masses and everyone gets a cheer and a participation trophy for breathing, let alone doing.

This is why the youth of the developing world looks at the developed world in disgust. Doing a bad job is ok for the developed youth because trying is as good as succeeding to them. In the developing world, trying and failing has consequences.

> _"Since when did just doing something become passable to you people!?"_
Since society stopped demanding anything out of the young masses and everyone gets a cheer and a participation trophy for breathing, let alone doing.

This is why the youth of the developing world looks at the developed world in disgust. Doing a bad job is ok for the developed youth because trying is as good as succeeding to them. In the developing world, trying and failing has consequences.


THIS VIDEO IS CRING!!!!

Seriously though, thank you for making this. I'm late to it but I feel like it was brought to me in a time where I need it. I want to share something with the world and leave behind something that will far outlive me. I've been stuck, but this video has helped me reevaluate my thoughts.


I watched the entire video, and I can't agree with you more. YouTube right now is so messed up, and me being a small YouTuber and wanting to become more noticed is practically surreal at this point, since bigger YouTubers have already done everything I've done, and people are more interested in their content than mine. And since YouTube only promotes bigger YouTubers videos rather than smaller YouTubers' videos, it's almost impossible to become noticed or popular.

We should have a new version of Old YouTube, but with a networking system. That way, if you want to make a new channel, you only have to put work into an extra channel. Everyone wins! I'd use that shit in no time.

8-Bit Robot I am also facing this problem. Trying to get more subs, but sadly no one cares. This sucks so much. :(

DramaAlert?
Scarce?

Are we ignoring those channels?

Marry me, you beautiful 80s tech-level automaton

8-Bit Robot same, being csgo youtuber is hard

Well the alternative is podcasts approach where lots of the time podcasters listen to other podcasters podcasts and tend to recommend interesting ones regardless of popularity

Maybe small channels need to unite to take on big challenges.

clearspira thats the issue, this problem does not limit itself to just youtube. Its gotten to the point that this is embedded in society itself. You can't be yourself and create content you want to make and have it recognised and appreciated, the fact that im 15 and live in a world where people have to throw away their individuality and become an entirely different person just to gain the smallest of recognition is disgusting.  New youtubers might as well not bother creating content since you also have to pray to fucking god some person will stumble upon your work and bother to watch a nobody, which is unlikely as your not gonna be able to compete with bigger youtubers.

I write e-books, it is pretty much the same problem. Everyone has been there, done that. Every original idea I have has more than likely been done by someone else. Nowadays the only bestsellers tend to be from established authors rather than people like me because they come up best on Amazon's search algorithms. Half of it is now completely down to luck or sucking up/off someone who is already popular.

8-Bit Robot i subbed, good luck on your u-tube


man you hit me with ELP this time!<br>your music choices are bonkers good

man you hit me with ELP this time!
your music choices are bonkers good


Stuff like begging for Subs and Likes made me realize how much I appreciate RLM. Those guys are continuously original, and may as well not exist on youtube since they barely reference it despite quite possibly being one of the most influential groups on the internet. (They changed how reviews are formatted, may have accidentally invented Slenderman, are known by several movie industry veterans, where referenced in the GotG Vol2 Trailer, etc)


And here we are today, dislikes removed. The site is dead


YouTube's been on a downward spiral since the beginning of 2017. TikTok reinforced that downward spiral, and I have doubts it will ever spiral back up.


Your point on editing and production being important is so underrated it's insane. People seem to forget that people like PrinceEa ride off high production value while their content is meaningless drivel. Kony2012 was popular because it was marketable even though it was just about the worst thing to donate any money to. Literally so much of "popularity" or viewership is dependent on making something aesthetically pleasing.

Don't get me wrong, good production is awesome, it's just utter shit that it's become necessary to pretty up and make everything "digestible" before people will even acknowledge its existence. And it's not even like good production denotes any level of competence anymore. Ricegum made a platinum song off of lyrics he paid for and a beat he purchased before sending the whole atrocity to a mixing/mastering engineer he commissioned to pretty up his garbage vocals. It sounds elitist to say, but the reason I respect so many people who venture out of the comfort zone of watching what "looks good enough" is because forming opinions on what you're spoon fed and never acknowledging anything outside of that isn't just boring, it's artistically ignorant. It's like when your friend who only listens to country tries to distinguish themselves by saying they only listen to "good country". Like yeah, thanks, you are a dwarf among midgets.

To be fair though, the same could be said for those who refuse main steam media because it's to polished to actually be authentic. Honestly a good mix of everything will help you discern reality and population opinion. Takeing too much of the polished or rough may hurt your perspective of the world.

@Narcissist Margarine <br>I’m not gonna say you’re an elitist. If anything, I agree about the mainstream audiences being ignorant because they think they know everything when in reality, their knowledge can be very surface-level. Whereas people who get out of their comfort zones end up learning some new stuff and challenge misconceptions.

@Narcissist Margarine
I’m not gonna say you’re an elitist. If anything, I agree about the mainstream audiences being ignorant because they think they know everything when in reality, their knowledge can be very surface-level. Whereas people who get out of their comfort zones end up learning some new stuff and challenge misconceptions.


my favorite bit of this video is Emp getting angry about Elsagate while Dancing With The Moonlit Knight plays. Funniest thing i’ve seen in a while.


10:15
I think the pinnacle of those kinds of videos is getting copyright claimed by the owners of the music, because that would mean 1 of 2 things, you are so good you sound just like the original song, or you could prove to reasonable people the copyright system on youtube sucks ass.


Honestly the algorithm used to recommend videos I ended up being interested in and allowed me to discover creators I love. But now all it does is recommend the same videos I've already watched, and the occasional video I never want to watch at all


This video represents me. I felt that anger and desperation.


And seriously, you have put so much work for the quality of this video. The fact that the music, script, images and videos in this video all correlate to each other in a way that it's actually art makes me so happy. This is a great video and people need to actually sit down amd watch. I remember when YouTube had a little more variety, more creativity. Nowdays i just get recommended videos that are literally all Top 10 lists. Its just not the same and I hadn't noticed until you made this video.

atomic doomsday58 dude I’m going to fucking cry


it’s literally 2021and this vid is still relevant.

@I need Scissors! 61! why can’t I get Metal Gear content? It’s my absolute favorite game franchise that I watch tons of videos on but the algorithm doesn’t care.

YouTube gave me terrible gacha videos for some reason. I don’t know why. Now it seems like it’s just giving me metal gear content,but I’m fine with this.


If we had a real free market we'd have a decent youtube alternative eons ago.


28:07 it really sucks that Youtubers have been showing that they get a spike of subscribers whenever they "remind" their viewers to subscribe. It boggles my mind how dumb people are.

Edit: And fully agree with searching for the best content. ASMR in particular has an immense number of creators with ultra-small channels but wonderful content. And modern Youtube Poops provide amazing take-downs of the same people that criticize them. Analysis channels as well often randomly have a creator who made super high-quality content but take years to grow.


The YTP explanation reminds of the small corner I lived (and live? I started making them again after many many requests over the years to make more) in, the Drew Pickles videos, which most people hate, but have been going on for like 15 years anyway and have evolved over that time.


too bad he became the same commentary channel like everyone else