I've been silent for a while about this topic, but I feel now is a great time to talk about this as well. I'm also anti-normie in video games. Not so much them playing games, but talking about them. I've been BTM'd recently by RelaxAlax, the guy who makes "Know Your Moves" for Smash 4. Which is fine, but then me makes a Fire Emblem one, a poorly done one when I've made one in January in time with Mystery of the Emblem's anniversary. The issue here is he begins by stating "I know nothing about Fire Emblem" and butchers everything. My video is more informed due to I play the games and I like the series. Unlike him I had to go out of my way to buy the games instead of emulating them or copying footage from someone else. Before this Aaronitmar made a "Color Origin" for the Fire Emblem characters and gets almost all of them wrong and the worst part is he got his information from a tumblr post- a tumblr post. Then RelaxAlax does the same thing and adds terrible filler and jokes and tuns into a generic Youtuber.

Personally, I'm 21 and I recently applied for Nintendo/Intelligent Systems, the Japanese developers that make Fire Emblem. I got accepted and applied for a position as a planner and designer for the series. From now to June of 2018 I have to make two different games consisting of two different genres, passed timed written/college exams, and pass a staff interview with someone form the same position as me and they only hire one person per year. First I'm an American who nor am I Asian ethnic wise or Nationality wise so I'll be the first to apply in general and for those positions at a young age, I'll be 22 by then though. Americans are generally looked down upon and usually expected to go to Nintendo of America, but I want to make games and aspire to better the video game industry and community, especially he Fire Emblem community. People like Aaronitmar and RelaxAlax make me look bad when I spent my highschool years and college years meeting with older Nintendo employees and talking with Intelligent Systems staff during events in Japan. Naturally when I saw them makes videos about Fire Emblem I was worried and after watching them I was upset that they both knew nothing. In his defense I make poor quality videoe using Windows Movie Maker, because I make youtube videos for fun an never ask for views or to "like, comment, subscribe, support me on patreon". I'm just a guy who likes video games and the Fire Emblem series. I know most of my content is unoriginal, but unlike youtubers I aminformed and the the truth and facts which is why I like to make fact videos, because they're easy and I can have fans voice over them. I also am against let's plays of newer games since it's bad for marketing and I want people to play games not watch them. People like Aaronitmar and RelaxAlax alienate new players and preexisting ones with false information and poor quality content. Even the popular subscriber count channels that talk about Fire Emblem make poor content and continue to alienate players. Players shouldn't settle for poor content or say a bad/good game is good/bad for subjective reasons. It's fine if you like a game subjectively, but objective constructive reception is good for improving the video game industry than saying "it sucks" or "best game 10/10".

Thanks for your time Emplemon. I've been a fan since the Uncredibes and the Spongebob videos Continue making great content and as usual have a great day!

I don't really ask for help for anything. Everything I've done is by me, much like this channel. If you do want to support me then the best way is to buy Nintendo software whether it be systems or games. I'm glad I could inspire you to make games as well. I've gotten several messages about the Paper Mario series and I'll do what I can. The 30th anniversary is in 2020 so if you see anything, I'll do my best. My biggest inspiration for making games was my "dad" and working as a elementary school teacher's assistant for a short while. I would do story time of the Fire Emblem series and it motivated me to make this channel and make content for the player base for free. I don't say "...like, comment, subscribe, etc..." or put adds in any of the videos and are only there for the viewer's entertainment. Right now I'm still deciding on the second genre of my 2nd game and working on a real documentary of the best Fire Emblem game in the series and its revolutionary impact on the series and gaming industry as well as history and inside look of the series including "Elm Kaiser, the Holy Sword" and "Fire Emblem 64 Dark Priestess", it's going to be a long video. Thank you for your support and comments SPOONS.

And please promise us if you get the job for good, that you'll (help) fix Paper Mario? After all, Paper Mario was made by Intelligent Systems and deserves love, too. And that series was probably the biggest thing I ever wanted to contribute to from Nintendo... Or maybe I should get off my lazy butt and follow in your foot steps! Ha ha ha. You've rejuvenated my desire to make games. <i>Thank you!</i>

And please promise us if you get the job for good, that you'll (help) fix Paper Mario? After all, Paper Mario was made by Intelligent Systems and deserves love, too. And that series was probably the biggest thing I ever wanted to contribute to from Nintendo... Or maybe I should get off my lazy butt and follow in your foot steps! Ha ha ha. You've rejuvenated my desire to make games. _Thank you!_

You could not begin to know how jealous and envious I am that you got a job at one of the Japanese Nintendo subsidiaries. It's been my dream to make a Nintendo game since... Well I guess it's probably been your dream too. I hope you prove to Japan (and especially Nintendo) that westerners aren't half as dumb as they seem to think we are. Ha ha! Don't give up, get your family to help you! Make us proud!

You could not *_begin_* to know how jealous and envious I am that you got a job at one of the *Japanese* Nintendo subsidiaries. It's been my dream to make a Nintendo game since... Well I guess it's probably been your dream too. I hope you prove to Japan (and _especially_ Nintendo) that westerners aren't half as dumb as they seem to think we are. Ha ha! Don't give up, get your family to help you! Make us proud!

sǝpnu puǝs he has a job at nintendo/intelligent systems, you're calling him a weeb because of a single profile picture?

Thanks. Good luck to you in High School. What are you planning to do afterwards? I also just ignore the troublemakers. If they aren't going to give any thing constructive it's not worth it.

Fire Emblem World Why is everyone hating on you man?

I read this whole thing, top to bottom and I couldnt believe RelaxAlex actually did that. Whenever I see someone I love gain popularity, they start losing the magic they once had and their fame goes to their head. I see this with a lot of Youtubers and it sucks that YouTube allows all this To happen.

I am a High school junior student right now, and Ive always wanted to go to Japan, and meet the greats at Nintendo. I like how you are trying to stand up and show that you arent just a "weak" American like the world thinks we are and show your worth. I respect that.

I enjoy the Fire emblem series and seeing more informative people like you fall down the ranks is depressing.

Correct. The reasons I chose Nintendo/Intelligent Systems over Nintendo of America is because I wanted to make games. As a designer I could make the game I always visioned and have full control over it. As a planner I can work with the whole staff and oversee production of my projects from start to finish while engaging in constructive criticism with the full staff and help newer members with hand on experience with games while working as a team. Like EmpLemon said, media becomes stale when there's no innovation and it never ventures outside its "comfort zone". I want to see a difference and I wanted to be that difference. <br>I'm glad I could inspire you. I wish you the best of luck. Finding an identity is hard, but I know you'll find it through inspiration. Be the difference you want to see and have a great day!

Correct. The reasons I chose Nintendo/Intelligent Systems over Nintendo of America is because I wanted to make games. As a designer I could make the game I always visioned and have full control over it. As a planner I can work with the whole staff and oversee production of my projects from start to finish while engaging in constructive criticism with the full staff and help newer members with hand on experience with games while working as a team. Like EmpLemon said, media becomes stale when there's no innovation and it never ventures outside its "comfort zone". I want to see a difference and I wanted to be that difference.
I'm glad I could inspire you. I wish you the best of luck. Finding an identity is hard, but I know you'll find it through inspiration. Be the difference you want to see and have a great day!

being a game designer doesn't require a full mastery of programming but you still need to know a lot of it if you're gonna make your own game.

also wanted to say after reading your original comment I think it inspired me to at least start on making my own game. or if nothing else a review of a game series I like pointing out its design flaws and how they could be fixed.

My presentation for the game has to be done in 20 slides or less, like a makeshift Nintendo Direct. The game can be presented in any way, but actual progress towards the game is preferred. Being a planner doesn't require full mastery of programming, just enough to communicate with the entire staff. I mostly know design and recently took 2 classes in programming.

what do you mean by '20 slides or less'? like the game has to be made in 20 slides or less?

if you've been in contact with Nintendo since high school I don't think learning the programming it takes to make a game should be that hard

I know for my presentation it has to done by using Windows software with 20 slides or less. I'm not sure about making the prototype of the project. It has to be done by me using my own resources. I'm working backwards currently since I have to design scenarios/chapters, units, characters, classes, and storyboard for plot and areas. My primary project is a new "Fire Emblem" with a heavy focus on immersion and accessibility so it takes up a majority of my time. My second is mostly going to be something simple to gain hands-on experience with programming like a puzzle, fighting, or rhythm game.

To add more context, I messaged him last year on twitter asking if he needed help with the Fire Emblem characters and he replied with "He already has it done and it should be uploaded soon". So in January of 2017 I make the Marth that's 15:30 long and he hasn't made one yet.
In August he makes one and it's about as long as mine and follows the same flow as mine in terms of organization. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and watched his whole series and I watched some videos prior to the Fire Emblem one. He does everything well with only a small handful of mistakes mostly in names such as in the Little Mac one he calls the "Hook" a "Body Blow", and mislabels the "Straight". It's common since most people don't watch or play Boxing. He makes decent content and well researched and I liked how for the two Link videos he played Ocarina of Time and gains an appreciation for the character. In the Fire Emblem one he begins by stating he knows nothing about the series so it's already a poor impression. It's mostly towards just the Fire Emblem one. I like his content, but the Fire Emblem one is easily his weakest and poorly researched.

Fire Emblem World if you don't mind me asking what software are you planning on using to make your 2 games? is it something that the company is gonna provide or are you gonna use one of the free ones?

With RelaxAlax's video of Fire Emblem, I wholeheartedly agree that he shouldn't have made it in the first place. But, I must ask, does this opinion go towards every video he does or only the FE video?

Sorry to hear that. The scale of self identity and truth/facts in YouTube is abismal. I subbed, keep up the content


Hm... I think I have an idea for an art project... But I'm not gonna say what it is yet, just in case someone big is trying to steal the idea and fuck me over... Not that I expect it to go big, but still... The idea is more about the statement... Also, if, and only IF I end up doing this, I'll make sure to credit you and probably specifically this video, EMP. you deserve that credit, however little it may be, for helping the idea spark in my head


Gray sony vegas took me back to another world. Good video too.


Probably people came to conclusion that tubes are only on sewers.


This video was pretty inspiring. I like the message you gave. You seemed to be acting a little mean spirited during the video, but I can see where you're coming from. I hope to watch another video from you!


I question if this guy likes anything or believes that anything except YouTube loop is good

@A Random Something ok then I accept that


Amazing video, EmpLemon. I love how you can provide points and make a video essay while also making it entertaining and not come off as pretentious and condescending. Good Job.


Now social media’s much worse TikTok is heavy cancer 🥲


The thing that I truly care for. And will use each time someone tells me to ‘s’ 27:18


youtube doesnt exist
its advertising now
i want to steal as many advertisements as possible and put them in a compilation
and tell people to loop it for the proper corporate youtube experience otherwise have their corporate mandated life support shut off for not watching enough advertisements


I feel gluity but yeah I do just ignore most of the youtubers I'm subbed to, not because their bad but because I got either school work to do, or it's something I really wanna watch but I rather play a game a listen,


Hey guys, came from the future to say

it gets worse

Hey guys, came from the future to say

*it gets worse*


To be fair, you have to have a high IQ to understand EmpLemon. The memes are not subtle at all and it will still go over the usual viewer's head, because we're all dumb.


“YouTube will have good content forever.”<br>cough cough Scott the Woz

“YouTube will have good content forever.”
cough cough Scott the Woz

Scott is Ok but I find it low tier to what there was back in the day.

this is me meaning to say that Scott is good


36:30 isn't that a proud boy shown to symbolize dissemination of valueable information?

I mean the point you are making while talking about it seems reasonable, buuuuuut I am not sad if fascists are limited in their capabilities, even if I don't like the systems that shut them up.


I agree with every point you made. YouTube used to have a motto, "Broadcast Yourself", and that really meant something. There was a sense of freedom and quality that made it better than TV. Now, it's all a bunch of trash pushed out by, like, some kind of fucking factory, all part of this whole corporate master plan with a carefully designed algorithm to make sure that small channels never get seen, and the huge channels get stupid-rich. Simply put, YouTube isn't fun anymore. Also, I don't think video tags actually work anymore.

BTW, your video is technically long enough to be considered a feature film.


David gilmour is gonna get you for those pink Floyd tunes.


talk your shit big homie. i love it. goddamnit that was glorious.


I want to change my account. But feeding the algorithm again, no way. 10+ years feeding it. Recently it seems a bit lost though. But there are too may cringe comments of mine on this account, when I was fairly young. Teenager me was a bit weird


This video entirely sums up why I use Adblock. If content creators aren't gonna get the money, no one should.


I once started on this site watching AO and Fred vids. Then went to Minecraft machinimas. Then introduced into G-mod vids. Then it introduced me into steam games. Then YTP. Then music. Then animation. And things that  were actually handed to me as likeable content. I look back on these channels over a decade later. They've gone to shit. They rode the sellout train. They were forced into let's play channels. Some simply just left YouTube. Basically, this website founded AND demolished my internet childhood. For what it is, the huge demonetization outbreak was just the last nail in the coffin. I liked YouTube and all, but it's one of those things you just have to put down now. This video simply put into terms everything wrong with the website. It was well polished and researched. You deserve a sub ere' Emperor.


YouTube just removed the dislike button….adding shorts to copy Tiktok (a competitor) damn for a video 4 years ago it’s very accurate for what he is saying


Youtubers begging for subscriptions is pretty annoying. <br>I can understand it but when they throw out the "only 5% of people who watch subscribe so don't be one of the 95%!!" I draw the line. I came here to learn a minecraft mechanic not to follow your channel.

Youtubers begging for subscriptions is pretty annoying.
I can understand it but when they throw out the "only 5% of people who watch subscribe so don't be one of the 95%!!" I draw the line. I came here to learn a minecraft mechanic not to follow your channel.

MCYT in 2021/2020 is insufferable, You either have to watch someone that isnt a legacy creator


Okay  how we gonna find good  content are we going to just searched for a random things and just hope for the best


I watched the whole video. Emperor lemon has by far  The most superior editing style. And the strongest words I've ever heard. This is a real YouTuber.


people prefer quality over quantity but youtube is against that? this is exactly the air strike in tf2


12:58 did shadman just get credited for an old youtube animation? the shadman? has to be him right?


Oooh and the transition into pink floyd damnnn


To be fair, asking for subscriptions can sometimes remind you that it's even an option if it's not always at the front of their mind


I watch one buzzfeed series, and it is unsolved. Mostly because the hosts have since separated from buzzfeed


IDK how anyone could misinterpret or not 'get' the point of your "Behind The Meme" 'review'. You make a very clear and passionate case for him to WISE UP.  There is no confusion about that.


Well, you inspired me to do a huge clean-up of the channels I'm subscribed to... Now I'm only subbed to people I am currently watching or ones I think may upload good stuff again soon... That and maybe a few with great stuff that are kinda dead maybe but I just wanna be able to easily find again


Anybody else get this randomly in their recommended yeasts later?


what we need isn't to fix youtube<br>we need a new website to post videos

what we need isn't to fix youtube
we need a new website to post videos


With the massive rise of YT shorts, we now realize the true potential of beginner content creators... Oh yeah, there is none. Apparently they're all just stupid kids from TikTok, and none of the good ones, either.


YouTube used to be old Adult swim, now it’s new adult swim just instead of half the slots being Rick and morty its TV


what's funny is that I noticed a very big difference between the mentalities and personalities of original creators and normie content creators. Of course, we all know the difference, of course the original creators are more intelligent, but also very much less controversial. Let's look at Alinity or Ninja, they have always caused controversy and they are overused-normie content creators. They are very stupid, have caused controversy, and humiliated themselves, many times. Have we seen much of that in actual intelligent, original content creators? Nope, not really.

Also, many big youtubers are afraid of trying to innovate and try new things because they think they will lose all of their viewers, which is ignorant and negative. At least...just *try*. Has anyone heard of that word before? Just... *Try*? or is that too much?


Always loved long and content heavy videos with actual segments and stuff, never understood how people could get so bored


Oh shit I just noticed that this video was made in 2017


Can you believe Charlie barely ended this month?


3:41 Don't tell me that's the Verlisify thumbnail?! (actually loved that video btw)


Clearly I’m the best youtuber and the algorithm is just stupid


CharmX quit YouTube but still has more subs. Oof


So emp it’s coming up on the 5 year mark. What will come of it


I feel like the only reason that my recommended feed isn't complete trash is because I've been using the site so heavily for so long. I've been on since like 2007/2008, and the algorithm would be sweating to find a way to shove garbage into the categories of vids I watch.<br>But yeah. New people have near 0 chance of discovering actually good and original content.

I feel like the only reason that my recommended feed isn't complete trash is because I've been using the site so heavily for so long. I've been on since like 2007/2008, and the algorithm would be sweating to find a way to shove garbage into the categories of vids I watch.
But yeah. New people have near 0 chance of discovering actually good and original content.

I've been here since 2010 (on my old account), and my recommended feed isn't good, but it COULD be worse.

Still better than those who join the site nowadays.

nowadays i get a mix of trash, good content and videos that ive already watched like a million times before, i have an account since 2013 but ive been on youtube since the freddiew and smosh days (when they were at their peak)

I was here since 2012/2013, when I was a wee lad playing ATV Off-road Fury 2/3, flash games, etc.

I've been on here damn near every day since 09, but I only created my current account a couple years back, meaning my recommended is complete shit. The only good small youtubers I ever found from it was Scott the Woz back in 2017, when he was still a very small channel.

@paty kun same, I still get shit in mine

I've been watching youtube since 2011. I lost my old accounts but I still like to rewatch old videos I've seen. Because of this, I occasionally get some good videos, but the majority are either shit, something I'm not interested in, or videos I've already watched 50 times.

I agree. I feel sorry for anyone who makes an account today. They would only be shown absolute shit videos while many gems will never be seen. I even find people with over a million subs that aren't recommended to me but have several videos I like and I'm just like, how the fuck was I never shown this?

My algorithm is godlike for me, but maybe it's because I mainly use YouTube to discover good obscure music from the past, and it feels like I've been riding this train for years. There is definitely no shortage of good quality full album rips of stuff you will never see on any other platform than YouTube. Finding informative 'video essay' style channels turned into its own rabbit hole sort of. I mean that's why I'm even here in the first place, because EmpLemon's Never Ever series looked intriguing. But I'm sure it's the same for most subjects — if you dig deep enough, you'll find the quality content.

i’ve had this account since 2016, and somehow my feed is at least mediocre enough to be tolerable

I've been on YouTube since 2009 but i only made this account in 2015 or something so my feed is still mostly trash.

I have changed accounts multiple times, but I have been on since 2007/2008. My new account has only been around since 2017, so RIP me.

My entire recommended feed is political spew and deja vu. I try to motivate myself to make content that isn't vapid like everything else but I remember <b>nothing is going to fucking change</b>

My entire recommended feed is political spew and deja vu. I try to motivate myself to make content that isn't vapid like everything else but I remember *nothing is going to fucking change*

Same. I've been watching YouTube every day for almost 8 years now. I know who and what I like and so does the algorithm.

I've been on here since 2013 almost daily and my recomendations are still trash. I envy you.


I hated EpicMealTime but loved Freddie Wing (Fucking blue shell!); but it was obvious why both were loved


Honestly, I wish we could go back to the days before ad revenue... before we had all of this "Who's watching this in Blah blah blah" and people not even being down to earth or honest. I gotta say... I agree with you on this video, every step of the way.

Unless your a dummy like me <del>then you get a friend to do it</del>

Unless your a dummy like me -then you get a friend to do it-

Dujbum hasfun thepiratebay is your friend :)

I just want to make 50 bucks a month to pay for my editing software.


Behind the meme’s content was entertaining


If you make a video of a game with the word war in the title will make the video demonotazed


The only reason I clicked on it was because I thought it was Nine Inch Nails lol


8:36  Well someone really likes their TF2bers.

Also, someone finally credits the songs they use! Thank you, Lemon!

Jerma985 (more specifically 2ndJerma nowadays)<br>He is the ONLY lets-play esque channel I will EVER watch on this site

Jerma985 (more specifically 2ndJerma nowadays)
He is the ONLY lets-play esque channel I will EVER watch on this site

I find it telling actually. All the TF2bers he likes are not the big ones. Uncle Dane, After Breakfast, a lot of new, original content creators who didn't jump ship to Overcock when it came out.

Lets face it, Muselk is part of the cancer he's talking about in this video.

Pooperscoo 101 Thank god he's subscribed to 2ndJerma, he's so funny.

Pooperscoo 101 Ankle daaannnn the sentry maaaaaaan


I haven't watched the video yet but I'm curious is history on what YouTube is going to be actually happened


@ 39:49
To find out who rules over you.....


If I got to here “Like, subscribe and hit the bell icon for notifications” one more time.... 😤


On the topic - I've noticed that the Algorithm specifically puts Fall of Civilizations' YT channel on autplay/recommend exclusively around 4am. It knows I like to listen to longform history while i sleep >.>

The only problem is - I don't really love that YT channel. The algorithm just thinks I do because of ~8hour long watch times


This video fills me with so much shame. I've been watching vids since 2008, and I never really stopped. I feel like dropping dead after seeing this, my god. I hope things could get better, eventually.


Gentlemen i reckon the time has come.<br>to Abandon ship

Gentlemen i reckon the time has come.
to Abandon ship


honestly, i kinda like autoplay since it playing videos automaticaly means i dont have to keep alt tabing out to select a new video while gayming


I want to go back to when i could open yt and within a minute find a video to watch

Little side update to this i now have to search for content yt just reccomends me videos ive watched already or videos i dont care for what so ever

Now i open youtube scroll and scroll untill either i find a vid after 3-5 minutes or a see another video which makes me think of a different youtuber i want to watch


I'd like to think Youtube has improved in 2019 since the vid but their policies have gotten worse and the mainstream content more trash. So its good to see niche or talented youtubers like Internet Historian or Ken Iijima succeed in an oversaturated website. Great Vid Emp :)

And documentary and historycontent is there if you can find it


So what other YT channels do you recommend. Thanks!


Now a-days you just need to upload dream smp clips


This video can't be played in the mini player


Man watches Buckley, you have good taste.


I'm left with a decision: make a channel and try to further this message as best I can and with all the tools I can use. Or I can try to get everyone to stop watching youtube, get people to revolt and stand against them, see what life is like if we stop and make what we want.<br>     There may not even be a chance that either option will work, but I'm gonna try. Every other aspect of life is going down the shitter, so I might as well build this last pillar back up, and go from there. Maybe it will work. Maybe.

I'm left with a decision: make a channel and try to further this message as best I can and with all the tools I can use. Or I can try to get everyone to stop watching youtube, get people to revolt and stand against them, see what life is like if we stop and make what we want.
     There may not even be a chance that either option will work, but I'm gonna try. Every other aspect of life is going down the shitter, so I might as well build this last pillar back up, and go from there. Maybe it will work. Maybe.


27:18 me after the tenth ad and the fourth time they yell at me to subscribe


wow this aged very very well i cant believe how angry people were a couple years ago and now its even worse.


I sincerely believe low attention spans are the root of most problems on the internet

Exactly, call me a redditor but shit like Tik Tok is making it even worse


this channel is literally YTP x Video Essay.

which is why i listen to this channel while doing homework


There is a lot of replacements for youtube


my friend has a small channel, i hope he survives and makes it


I love these rant videos because I get to learn alot from the great and wise emp lemon, though  I do end up getting anxious because I feel I always have start increasing the quality of my content after watching/ listening to one of these videos due to fear some stupid irrational fear of sorts in this case the "telling people to subscribe" thing which i'll promptly stop doing, great video mr. lemon


Now Youtube copied Youtube shorts from TikTok. Does anybody actually watch Youtube shorts?

I have seen a few people using YouTube shorts at my school


what if we changed the algorithm from watch time to percent of video watched

that would probably then result in a flood of tiny videos flooding the algorithm, and that may've already happened since i feel like youtube loves to recommend short videos now


Honestly this video aged like wine with a side of spoiled milk.


During early 10s I wanted to become a YouTuber to be famous, but during my 5th grade I was popular TOO popular with my class that I couldn't get any alone time and if I became a YouTuber who wanted to famous today I could gone through the same way as my 5th grade year and i decided to stop becoming a YouTuber for fame


Man, animation is fighting a losing battle against the algorithm... and there are some great animators in this website that aren't getting the attention they deserve. I can't name any besides NCHproductions (check him out if you like monster hunter), but there is this other great animator that I'm subbed to, he makes animations based around LPers, mostly TRG, though. He made some on Tom Fawkes (the spear saga) and masaeanela (yeti ski race), so we will see if he branches out further. Try to find him, he does good stuff.

Alan Becker! He’s still doing great animations!


Google taking over was a mistake, it shouldn't have been that's the sad part; the oppressive legalism over copyright bureaucracy however is the frustrating part.

Unfortunately, Google taking over was inevitable and what saved YouTube from the Viacom lawsuit. If they haven't then Viacom would win and we would have lose the original YouTube creativity anyway. And even if YouTube won, they would have eventually been bought out by some big company anyway because YouTube wouldn't make money otherwise


Attention span is at record low as they have introduced YouTube Shorts. By the way, just learned about DS.


Why is that every single good thing on the internet is completely fucked in the ass when big money start to be involved?

Because freedom and creativity are not a thing in the greedy corporate world


I am thankful that watchmojo and buzzfeed are now irrelevant


36:28 dammit, even the independent journalists? fucking youtube


Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

Return to Newgrounds.

@Fries it became popular on youtube, and bring more people to the site

@Catos Bobu123 How did that change Newgrounds? Not familiar with that website.

I only know it for a few flash games from the 00’s and 10’s.

@Fries A video game called "Friday Night Funking"

@Extremelightning

There are different kinds of edgy.

Imo, newgrounds was edgy in that you had an incentive to throw lots of swears, put lots of violence, and have fun with the boys. It's a type of edgy similar to what you can see in South Park imo.

FnF player's edgyness manifests as being an angsty emo crybaby. "Waaah my OC is BF, but his flesh was stripped by his a&¥$ive parents and now all that's left of him are bones. And he dresses up like Sans. Thankfully, he can find some peace in my hurt comfort fic I just wrote(careful, it's nsfw!)"

Just because Fulp was happy about it doesn't mean he's infallible. Was FNF being allowed to draw in so many coomers a mistake? I'd personally liken it more to a miscalculation, or a compromise. It had it's benefits, but it came at the cost of the Newgrounds culture.

@Catos Bobu123 what do you mean most og newgrounds animators know that newgrounds has always been edgy

And second tom fulp was happy fnf happened because it made newcomers know newgrounds


Hey I don't watch just gaming videos and lists I watch YTPs,Mapping,alt History and History


You know, the thing that makes me the most sad, which I guess in a way is kind of funny, is the fact I'm not sad that YouTube is going to wither into nothing, Which will happen because of how set Google are in their ways, but the fact that when it does, so many amazing videos will be lost to time, and likely unarchived.

All because Google is so far up their own ass that they believe that nobody else but them can make good decisions, and ideas, which is hilarious when you realize YouTube was a beautiful landscape until Google came in with a bulldozer forcing them to sell, and just destroyed everything we loved whole constantly looking towards us with a disgusting grin, and a thumb high up, encouraging us this is better. Google, and YouTube is the real-life equivalent of those overly dramatic "we need to save the park!" plots in shows,except in this case it comes with the all-too-real consequence that we can't do a damn thing. We're getting a beating every morning, and we have to fucking thank them for it. Because if we don't we can get kicked from the platform for any reason they like, get further buried, or even worse... Nothing will happen.

This isn't YouTube anymore, it's a Frankenstein-level corpse that just wants to die, but Google keeps zapping it with electricity, and forcing it to live as the monster they created. I seriously wish companies like Google would meet horrible financial disasters, because then we could watch them suffer like they so gleefully watched their customers, users, and all-else suffer from the changes they constantly make to non-broken systems.  It'll always be the same damn thing with them.

Google; If it ain't broke, break it, claim it's a problem, replace it, and say the replacement is an improvement despite being inferior to previous feature even when it was broken. Google can't even make a product better than something broken. It's fucking sad how they managed to be the biggest company in the world with incompetence of that scale. The trend setters are just followers now, and they're following a derailed, crashing train.

I have some in my collection

Well, time to start collecting videos and reuploading them randomly.

YouTube's soul is gone but it's a historic brand name and seems pretty damn successful. I really don't think it's going to die in the forseeable future. I think the people saying that don't realise that the masses are completely and utterly fine with YouTube. This site is way more difficult to replace or ignore than cable, which a lot of the masses actually moved on from.

Reminder that T-Series is #1 in sub counts. The masses don't care, the masses don't know what the soul of this site was, the masses only use YouTube extremely casually and look for stupid content, and the corporations are only interested in the masses, and YouTube is run by and in bed with corporations more and more.

I do see an eventual purge of really old/low-view content, maybe. And yeah, that stuff is gonna be unarchived which fucking blows.

I don't want to see youtube die. I don't want to. It's like those rage comics you see on Facebook or the current simpsons, it's shit, cancer, aids, and disgusting, but there was a time you loved it with your entire being, when you laughed at it, and it removed all the worries and troubles from your life from a few moments, but those memories from the golden period come back so often and feel so warm you can't kill it. It's impossible to bring yourself to do it. You've grown too attached, and simultaneously hope it withers, but hope it just keeps going forward, no matter how shit it is. That is why I don't want to see YouTube dead. I've loved it for too long.

Very sad way to look at it, but true... they're taking down everyone with them. Disgusting.

exactly its like modern spongebob it should have just ended a long time ago rather than keeping it alive for too long until it becomes shit


Kek 3 years later and now the dislike is on the line
Youtube is kill
N-yeah you're right


will this video have a sequel for the fifth anniversary maybe called migration from youtube


the comments are pretty crap<br>theyre only pretending the bangers known as ant farm videos are better than emplemons video even though theyre better than any video on youtube

the comments are pretty crap
theyre only pretending the bangers known as ant farm videos are better than emplemons video even though theyre better than any video on youtube


So all I'm getting from this video is that capitalism is and always will be what kills creativity.


It's the same as in every "new, exciting" creative endeavor. Once corporations get a hold of it, or money gets involved, the product becomes poisoned. The problem is that most creative people are terrible at sales and sales people are almost never creative. So you get this vicious circle where the creative idea gets milked because it sells, but then it becomes stale. So the creative side wants to do something new, but that's risky, because what if it doesn't sell? So either something new and creative gets made which goes through the same process again, or you get content that stops being creative and gets stale.


so does anybody know the name of the song at 37:38?


37:30 LMAO << THERE Is a Youtube movie( free with ads)  right next to this Video !!! LMAO YOUTUBE IS TRYING TO BE LIKE TV .. when it should be the opposite ..


Well, this put me off bothering with YouTube. I’m only going to do videos, if I really want to now- like random projects or what not.

But, why am I even saying this? No one’s gonna watch any of them anyways.


You can delete youtube from the title and put internet


I'm going to try starting a YouTube channel. The whole video talked about how it's practically impossible to do that now, but this whole pretty much 50 minute video has inspired me. I'm writing this at the very end, and it's only just helping push me to finally posting my first video, be it a short five minute one due to recording everything on an iPad because I'm a poor fuck who can't afford all the equipment needed to actually make a proper video. This is basically just a big thank you paragraph, to be honest. And no, I will not be posting my videos on this channel, I will be doing it on another one. But yeah, your channel deserves a lot more subs then you've got, man, and even though you insist for all of us subscribers to unsubscribe, I don't think I'll be doing that any time soon. Keep making the amazing content that you are, because it truly is different from practically everything else I've seen since everything actually is just a carbon copy of everything else on this damn site. Good luck on not getting demonetized by the YouTube bots, by the way.

zushi zaurus What is the channel that you were going to post the videos on?

zushi zaurus glad this video encouraged you mabye if you continue to create and improve and mabye if your big enough you can influence youtube to make good content only

Honestly, just pick this mindset: I just want to do this stuff, and post it for others to see. You don't have to care about anything else other than your content if you follow that ultimate level of ignorance

zushi zaurus May the odds be ever in your favor

zushi zaurus can't wait to see what content your making


Playing the ultimate showdown instrumental hit me with a wave of nostalgia I haven't felt in a long time.


The Youtube bis strat reminds me a lot of the horrors of communism. Change my mind.

I don’t think you actually understand what communism is.


Yeah people saying you should subscribe works for dream because he asks nicely<br>EmpLemon I feel your pain

Yeah people saying you should subscribe works for dream because he asks nicely
EmpLemon I feel your pain

@Now Defunct Channel could not agree more


YTPs are some of the only videos can can make me laugh genuinely and uncontrollably.


I like the Emerson Lake And Palmer music.


Watch Gildedguy, underrated, under appreciated, very cool animator


Your head is on CM Punk which is very accurate


cries in animator

But really, even if YouTube becomes more of a shitshow, there's really nowhere else to go. The content I like to watch is on YouTube, it's been on YouTube for half my life, and my content is on YouTube. I don't know if I could switch to an alternative, because YouTube is all I've ever known. There is nothing else.

*cries in animator*

But really, even if YouTube becomes more of a shitshow, there's really nowhere else to go. The content I like to watch is on YouTube, it's been on YouTube for half my life, and my content is on YouTube. I don't know if I could switch to an alternative, because YouTube is all I've ever known. There is nothing else.

@Just a rat ripping a bong yeah that's true :) thanks

@Just a rat ripping a bong  my animations are not good enough to be on newgrounds wheeze-<br>Compared to people there I'm just starting out they'd drag me over the coals

@Just a rat ripping a bong  my animations are not good enough to be on newgrounds wheeze-
Compared to people there I'm just starting out they'd drag me over the coals

all of my content i like to watch is gone no reason to use it anymore

Actually there IS another place to go: Newgrounds.

Seriously guys, this site is still going strong, PLEASE CHECK IT OUT NOW.

Norhing I used to watch YouTube for back then is still here

That's because Modern YouTube is designed to ensure that no competitor can come close.

Google's employing the Walmart strategy: Lose money on one aspect (YouTube doesn't make a profit) in order to ensure zero competition (no other site can run for long in the same way YouTube can without bankrupting itself).

If Modern YouTube was designed any differently, it would have more competitors, and it would have died from running at a loss without a profit.

Ain't that the truth. There's nothing else like it. I built my career on YouTube.


am i the only person that likes longer vids


Definitely subscribed during the asking for subscription section


You are at 666k Subs, Congrats laddie. Hope ya having a nice day.


I hadn't seen hate videos for a long time.This is good


Oh, a cataclysmic event is going to happen, just you wait.

Hehehehe

Hope there is rocket to get people off the planet and not just the rich in case  world war 3 causes a nuclear winter.


30:00 does buzzfeed unsolved and supernatural count?


There was a grand tree I used to look at every day as a child on my way to primary school. It towered over me, my dad, the buildings, and even all the other trees. It was comforting to know that every day on my way to school, I would always see the same tree greeting me as I walked past. Even as a teenager, when I walked past the tree on my way from secondary school, I would note that it wasn't producing fruit or leaves anymore. As I got older and learned more about the world, I started to understand that this tree is not only dead, but it's been dead for many years. It's still there in that exact same spot, alive to anyone who casually walks past it, but it's long gone in reality. I've given that dead tree a name: Youtube.

Seriously, Youtube is a tree: You always think it's just too big to die, and it'll always be there, but effectively, it can and will die, even if no-one notices until after it's too late. I think Youtube is still there, but it's original premise and soul is dead.

We need a version of Old YouTube with networking, as that would be a GOD of video sites.

HeWhoIsSadAndLonely<br>This comment needs to be appreciated.

HeWhoIsSadAndLonely
This comment needs to be appreciated.

If I had to challenge myself and my subscriptions, I'd say the only "corporate" channel is the official Queen channel. Outside of that, I'm subscribed to a ton of channels pandering to the algorithm (Phantomstrider, Nathaniel Bandy) but most of them have been doing it since before Youtube broke itself, and would be doing it anyway (Chuggaaconroy, Nintendocaprisun). I trust those to be genuine people and not just money-suckers. It doesn't matter anymore because I'm mostly on Vid.me rather than Youtube nowadays anyway.

Also, I feel like after the Behind the Meme video and now this, Emplemon's still building up towards even bigger-scale rants, like the state of humanity or something!


"your video has been demonetized" XD XD XD XD XD XD


I agree with the most of takes. But examples of "good channels" you show... They are shitty channels.


46:00 why do you think I only watch smaller youtubers.


i fucking love this video, dude. i stopped watching television all together in 2013 for this exact reason. television is 90% cancer, 5% aids, and 5% watchable content. but even then, you have to sit through hours of commercials that make me feel like i am literally losing brain cells. like you, that's exactly why i switched to youtube. i identify with so much of this video, and the fact that youtube has gotten so shitty that there are actual children's playlists consisting of endless copycat videos of elsa getting date-raped by the fucking joker, makes me want to cut my own fucking head into individual slices and put them in a toaster, so these money hungry sociopaths can literally eat my brain cells, instead of slowly sucking my soul out through the algorithm.

10/10 video, mate. this NEEDS to be seen by everyone on youtube.

This needs to be put on TV, maybe on independent TV stations or on Ion.


Here in 2021...it haven't gotten any better.   But far...far worse


Been straight up consuming YouTube for over a decade now and for the first time this year I thought about avoiding this site completely for a couple of months because of how much the site has gotten so shitty in content, community and especially quality

OSTrules heck I also was about to give up and post somewhere else but then I tried again and again which never works. So I will think about leaving this website for good but posting videos I already have most of clicks from other websites. Yeah it just sucks nowadays.


lessons in meme culture is the better version of behind the meme


What are your thoughts on YT's state rn, 3 years later?

Better. Way better. Well, at least the YouTube Community is better. It isn't as corporate as some people may make it out to be now. Big corporations are seemingly less popular than ever now. And there are still some smaller creators that are making the rounds. Millions of people will still watch Jimmy Kimmel, or WatchMojo. But they're the ones who are choosing to watch it. I say just trying and ignore them and try and deviate from them.


Well there were fidget spinners in this video so I guess I'm hooked


U could easily make this video about the Oscars (obviously make some tweaks to it) and the point would still get across


This was a religious experience, thank you for still caring about content on Youtube EmpLemon.


From open source common ownership to late stage capitalism.

Wdym "late stage capitalism"? Google's monopoly is crumbling gradually , as the competition restores the internet to its early 2000's decentralised state. To me, that demonstrates that capitalism is in its prime


Lmao i didn't even notice this was from 2017, christ, this website has only gotten worse since then

And continues to get worse after every year


22:31 quality YouTuber with big allegations

You... do know this was made 4 years ago, right?


Does watching in 2x speed decrease revenue for the youtuber?


Emp was trying to warn us but we didn't listen.

people thought it would get bad but not this bad😱


I am feeling free to complain that it is <b>your fault</b> that I have a tiny attention span

I am feeling free to complain that it is *your fault* that I have a tiny attention span


Downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral.


When that small clip of Leo and Satan and Pokémon but with animals instead flashed through it brought me back to the good o'l days


What about EddsWorld, by the way, I've been watching youtube since 2008, although I don't really remember much


Only watched a few of your videos so far but I am already impressed with your commitment, relentlessness and diligence into your content. Your passion is also inspiring. Do you also think Twitch could be a viable competitor?


Is Lessons In Meme Culture decent in your metric?


Hey, if it was that hard in 2017 to become notable, how hard is it today in 2021?

@Mercury Huh. Well, then that's still not really any better, is it?


I LIKE HIM BUT DID HE SAY THAT JOHNNY TEST WAS MEIDOCRE THAT WAS THE SHIT IN 2010-2014


After watching your video, I actually took some initiative, and looked at your subscriptions to find good content. Instead of watching stuff just because it was there like you mentioned near the end, I got opened up to a lot of REALLY good and horrifically underrated content. I clicked on videos and channels because they looked good and interesting.
Also, I guess I'm one of the lucky few 15 year-olds who knows who Rebecca Black was. Hell, I used to watch the very first episodes of Death Battles. And back then, because I was STOOPID, I binge watched Annoying Orange. I have a lot of Youtube experience, most of which I got from using the internet browser on the PS3 back when it was "next-gen".

Thanks for inspiring me, Lemon. I look forward to whatever follows this video.

Captain Io
Dude I remember the old days where you didn’t need a google account for YouTube.
The days where Fred, Ytps, The first let’s plays, videos about my favorite video games and movies, and Annoying orange were common to see. Those were the days.


sheep watching this: yeah i like buzzfeed and watchmojo, cry about it sksksksksksk


the reason people tell you to subscribe is so the children listen to them and fill their subscriptions with the same stuff


There are a lot of pro YouTube shills in these comments


Why have i not seen this for the last 5 years


Damn, that ending was inspiring. Good video.


and now the dislike button is gone......


This was an amazing video, I've felt the exact same way as things get more and more dumbed down and "streamlined" as Todd Howard would put it. There are some good YouTubers left like you mentioned, and if you don't mind I'd love to shoutout one of my favorite ones here because her channel isn't that big but she's probably the exact opposite of what YouTubers nowadays stand for. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPhvw06BupffcviCe6LMLgQ

That being said there are some big channels that are good too, but of course we gotta try to help out some of these little guys whenever we can. I've been considering starting a YouTube channel similar to the one I just linked, but I've been really intimidated to do so for a lot of the reasons you listed. But seeing her channel somehow miraculously succeed gives me hope. I do think certain categories are the key.

For example with The Authentic Observer's channel- the one I just mentioned- she talks about books, storytelling, culture, etc. Since that's not common for most YouTube channels, maybe that's how she got thousands of viewers. Still not a lot, but definitely successful this early on.

So it's made me wonder if talking about some of the more serious stuff is what makes a YouTuber stand out. Creating good animation or funny, entertaining videos isn't enough anymore because that's what all the corporate giants are doing.

However channels like Shoe0nhead make stupid and entertaining content based entirely on mocking political and cultural events and people, as do channels like Tim Pool and The Quartering. What makes these YouTubers successful is not only are they hard-working and making meaningful, entertaining content, but they're taking on topics that the big YouTubers aren't. Big YouTube channels like T-series aren't talking about the importance of whether or not you kill Mr. House in Fallout New Vegas, nor are they talking about why Cassandra Clare's books suck the way The Authentic Observer does.

So it seems to me the secret is not only original content, but an original topic. One example that I think proves this completely is when the channel The Theorizer, who does theories on animated movies, picked apart Coraline and created a massive audience out of thin air. Until he brought it up, no YouTubers out there were doing long, 30-minute+ analysis videos of the 2009 stop-motion film Coraline, but as soon as he did, a bunch of other big YouTubers tried to steal his idea, but it was too late. He already had millions of views on his Coraline videos and everyone knew he was the one who started that trend, and he even pointed out which channels stole his idea and it only reinforced the image of his originality.

What do you guys think?


I wonder what would happen if there was a wipe. Everyones subscribers and content is just suddenly reset. I understand for some people its how they make their living, but i mean theorectically what would happen if suddenly everything was reset.

A lot more blame on trump for not doing enough to sort out big tech.


I’m happy this video generally aged badly. EXCEPT THEY REMOVED THE DISLIKE

Really? I think the same amount of problems from this 2017 video still existed on YouTube currently. I feel like 2022 has been the worse year where users sub count is not coming close to there view count, for example if someone has 400k sub they are averaging like 10k views. it's crazy


I remember the last of the glory days
If only we knew it was all downhill from there

Goodbye YouTube...............

BMW i Series aka Shane Smithler genuine content such as cat videos?

Me too. I remember using YouTube since 2010, maybe 2011, a time when YouTube was full of genuine content like cat videos, Nyan cat as well as laser collection and other memes of the day as well as hand done animations made by normal people, but now YouTube Is full of Elsa and Spider-Man child porn, fidget spinners, letsplays and other cringy shit.... Sure animation did see a slight resurgence with people like DashieXP or lesser known youtubers and sure more people watch YouTube than ever, YouTube is just going to keep fucking up and becoming the equivalent of a piece of corrugated cardboard.

Vid me is the bastion you're looking for

SteaMonkey things were better back then.

You think so I subscide to rare channels like gemreview

I remember watching the laser collection and the old Know Your Meme vids.


THE ALGORITHM can only show you shitty shit if you let it show you shitty shit. My feeds are very well curated for me and I still find lots of new videos and channels. For example I have no fucking clue who this guy is that made this video. I ended up here following random clicks.


To think how much worse it has gotten since this video


11:40 all your rants are about nostalgia for the past. Perhaps you growing up has to do with it too


Another big point that you didn't bring up substantially that I felt compelled to mention is what happens when these big channels decide they have had enough? The markipliers, Pewdiepies, and other singular YouTube like celebrities that people either watch religiously or know about, what will happen when they want to retire? Regardless of whether you enjoy that content or not, they still hold a lot of weight on the site as a whole.

We've already seen YouTubers like Jontron and NerdCubed among many other (mentioning them specifically because I am familiar with their work) who have been forced in a way to hiatuses of various lengths and their resolve for the website may not hold them to it. Who will be there to take their place? The only option I see there is more and more corporate entities coming in as channels to fill the void, and unfortunately I feel that will accelerate the process to an even more saturated, stagnant website. And when finally the stagnation turns to toxicity, I fear the worst for this site and those who are on it.

Regardless, major props to you for not only having the guts to stand up and say something like this, but to undoubtedly put hundreds of hours into ensuring that every frame was visually interesting and writing that was thought provoking but not insulting to the viewer. Thumbs up and you have earned my subscription.

Gaming Diabetic I agree with your comment entirely

YouTube is the sick man of the internet, and we should all just go onto PocketMovies. After all, nobody uses that site anymore. However, that means less stupid channels. Yay!


Why do Youtubrs ask people to subscribe to them?<br>Because, depressingly, it actually works. So the only reason not to is if you want your channel to get less exposure.

Why do Youtubrs ask people to subscribe to them?
Because, depressingly, it actually works. So the only reason not to is if you want your channel to get less exposure.


Man we fell off the YouTuber and the viewer


Dude YTP Spider-Man is a hidden gem. If you have not see them do your self a favor.


I think it would be best for the viewer and the content creator that YouTube does. It would begin an era of new website to fill the enormous void of places to hold content. Meaning people will have to go out and find the content they wanna see, and the content creator gets to jump ship to whatever site would be suitable. Try imagining Deviant Art with stricter, more family friendly content. Then Shadmen tried uploading his artwork, only to be banned in just a few hours. He instead made his own website where he can post whatever he wants with whoever he wants. So this downward spiral leading to the death of of YouTube could be the best future we could see for content creators and viewers alike.

TL;DR : YouTube ending would lead to smaller sites hosting better content.


Do you think that bigger youtubers should break off and create their own websites for their videos so smaller youtubers could benefit from the revenue vacuum?

Issue is, even if you market it, who will even come there? If there's nothing new on the table there, what's the point?


The amount of mid video adverts in this say it all.


Honestly, I don’t get why people think that any video that’s over 10 minutes is “too long”. A video that’s just 10 minutes long is too short, that is if the person who made the video is funny and/or has a good personality. If the person who made the video doesn’t have a good sense of humor and/or personality then I can see where an over 10 minute long video is too long.


Actually started watching Emperor Lemons YTPs in 2012 and 9 years later he shows up on my recommendations... thank you YouTube


I never really got the whole YTP thing.
But then...  why the fuck should I.
It's like giving the remotest shit about star wars stuff... it's kids stuff... so why should I care.

But I DO LIKE Emperor Lemon's videos.
Am I a bad person?

Would YOU even know?  Of course not, this is youtube, land of the ephemeral gobshite.
Stay healthy out there

@Happy SoftTM (too much time / not enough chewable furnishings)


I've always enjoyed ytp's. I always think I will. I say power to the creative minds who come up with the hilarious and well put together content. No doubt it takes a lot of  editing and dedication.


At 29:10 why is jontron pictured? I don’t know the context behind it.  I’m guessing it has to do with speaking his mind on something and getting a bunch of crap for it


40:37 YES THEY ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE POCKET WHO NEED THE MONEY , THEY EARNED .. and GIVING THAT MoNEY TO CORPS THAT DONT NEED I TT OR DESIRVE IT < < CUZ OF FAR USE ,, but utube dont know what far use is .


i Agree i make simple videoss like minecraft unedited and i stay out of too many trends


So far from watching this video, ALL OF IT. I have to say. He's right....He is in fact 100% correct and we got nothing to do to stop it...So I say to you here in my honest to god opinion on this.

I wanted to be intelligent for the day a majority of people who watch dumpster fire for entertainment finally understands that they are watching so I can just laugh at how they...."Used" to have bad tastes because I can only hope things go back, back to the golden age.

So far from watching this video, ALL OF IT. I have to say. He's right....He is in fact 100% correct and we got nothing to do to stop it...So I say to you here in my honest to god opinion on this.

*I wanted to be intelligent for the day a majority of people who watch dumpster fire for entertainment finally understands that they are watching so I can just laugh at how they...."Used" to have bad tastes because I can only hope things go back, back to the golden age.*


Bro they literally copied tiktok with YouTube shorts after this lol


That's why i don't like ParashockX,he got one million subscribers in the easiest way possible,most of people subscribed to him are kids,i know a lot of youtubers that have a lot effort and don't even reach half of subscribers this guy has


People are cutting cable left and right. Youtube and online media has a decent shot at competing with TV if they didn't censor their highly viewed their more edgy creators (including politics) The fact that the WSJ went after Pewdiepie is a signal that Youtube is a eating away their viewership.


14:20 "without fear of being tossed aside for speaking their minds" and then there's a picture of jontron for one frame:
I think this is a bad example because when "speaking your mind" is spouting racist and fascist stuff you should very much be tossed aside imo, or at least fear a little of losing some of your fanbase, and jontron barely had any backlash from his controversial outings and was still very active and successful after that so yeah, missed the point on that one


I always return to this Video, ever since it was uploaded, every year... I just come back to rewatch it and just get hopeful that one day ill make it up there aswell. I have been trying youtube for the past 10years. This Video always just gives me hope. Thank you EmpLemon, even if you dont see this, I respect you.


so basically, youtube recommends those who have already succeeded instead of encouraging you to branch out your interests, they give too much to too many who achieve an arbitrary milestone, and they design the site to be as grating and soulless as possible, effectively guaranteeing that only the absolute best youtubers can make it to the same level as the late night jimmy's and the talentless sellouts. yup, sounds about right.


This genuinely inspirated me to search for the greatness, keep up the good content :D


fucking THANK YOU. HOLY SHIT. Like most of what you said has been my view on how shitty YouTube's become! When you talked about the whole shitty "LiKE aNd <b>sUBSCrriiBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"</b> I was like "I FUCKING KNOW RIGHT?!?" and was literally thinking EXACTLY what you were saying like "If you like the content, YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE WITHOUT BEING FUCKING TOLD." like HOLY SHIT. Anyway, cool video.

fucking THANK YOU. HOLY SHIT. Like most of what you said has been my view on how shitty YouTube's become! When you talked about the whole shitty "LiKE aNd *sUBSCrriiBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"* I was like "I FUCKING KNOW RIGHT?!?" and was literally thinking EXACTLY what you were saying like "If you like the content, YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE WITHOUT BEING FUCKING TOLD." like HOLY SHIT. Anyway, cool video.


Just seek out a subculture. That's the only escape imo.

the content has improved but the policies have only gotten worse

why would it, they dont keep it around for profit, they keep it around for how it can influence culture


We need a 2020 version of this video, complete and utter for all issues on YouTube at the time. Would be helpful to the community I think.


My question is if people kept abusing the tag system, why not limit the number of tags that can be applied to a single video to just a few, and revoke the ability to use tags from any channel that regularly spams misleading tags? It wouldn’t be as harsh as demonetization, but it would be a good incentive not to spam the wrong tags on purpose, and limiting the tags would be much simpler and more effective than changing the entire algorithm.

Fuck it’s Google, why and I even trying to come up with reasonable solutions?


I can replay any of these videos and they always get better each time I watch them. And they become more and more relevant as youtube falls down this seemingly endless spiral.


It's funny, isn't it? Youtube hasn't really improved at all. Only Youtubers have. The quality of their videos, the ways they've discovered to avoid copyright, and ways to actually make money from their content.

EmpLemon going from YTPs to rants to stuff like Stanislav Petrov, Dale Earnheart, and  Viacom's lawsuit against Youtube really is a testament to this.

It's funny, isn't it? Youtube hasn't really improved at all. Only Youtubers have. The quality of their videos, the ways they've discovered to avoid copyright, and ways to _actually make money from their content._

EmpLemon going from YTPs to rants to stuff like Stanislav Petrov, Dale Earnheart, and  Viacom's lawsuit against Youtube really is a testament to this.


At the end of 2020, and this has never been more true. It has taken me three years to actually find a decent amount of original content with heart.


Absolute phenomenal video man, I love everything about this


Finished the last second of this video at 3am right on the dot. Hope I made you at least a little happier that one more person agrees enough with you to yawn themselves to tears. Goodnight sweet prince.


Damn, this is an incredible video. Now I wanna go and be the greatest


This video mashed with a couple other Emplemon videos I've watched pretty well articulate why I never put forth the effort into youtube content myself. Why would I put effort into something that's just gonna get drowned in a fast food fry vat of others content garbage. Loose monetization, get censored, copyright claimed for a song in the background and get sued by Michael Jackson. Remember when you actually had to have a clip from your video as a thumbnail? Yea, when that changed (along with a hand full of other things) many years ago is when I threw youtube out the window as a possible form of free expression. Not to mention, it's worse today than it was back then. Keep it up Emplemon


You continue to give a much needed daily dose with every downward spiral.


Its great how this video will always be relevant as long as this site exists


every time i rewatch the laser collection i feel an overwhelming sadness, remembering how innocent this site used to be.


I come back to this video over and over again... It never ends does it?

Now i finally feel it Mr. Crabs...


Finaly someone who can put the situation on YouTube into words.


My rule for myself when I started making videos is I have to have fun making the video. Monetization has always been a background thing, and I'm probably never going to experience burnout because of it.


Would you look at that, EmpLemon.
Now we have YouTube striking down a staged road rage scene that was practically not violent at all.

Am I correct, Markiplier and Cr1tikal, or am I not?


I WANT the website to do good. I (which is also a smaller channel) WANT other smaller channels to survive. I WANT the website to get its charm back. Most of the entertainment I get is from YouTube. I care a lot about the platform, and it breaks my heart to see it fall so far from grace. The platform FAVORS bigger channels, and it's wrong on so many levels. The website is nothing but a shitty corporate dump that's desperate for money and copies other platforms. The algorithm is irrelevant and bad. To Google: STOP STEALING PEOPLE'S DATA.


Related, this also reminds me how web articles are becoming complete shit too. News articles are chock full of ads you can't even read anything; ads on all sides; ads breaking up the text, you can't even read the article.
In addition, the article was compiled by some bot, not even a human, which just copied it from Associated Press and changed a few words. Also, when sites just embed/copy the text of wikipedia and act like it's different information...nobody has any intelligence, creativity, or even the ability to write.
I miss the old html websites that a human actually handcrafted; and which had page counters, and fucking rainbow graphics and crazy blue or black background and green text. I can't even use the web anymore unless I know exactly where I'm going going, cause it's all shit

Anyone want to h*ck one of these big-ass s*tes?

Related, this also reminds me how web articles are becoming complete shit too. News articles are chock full of ads you can't even read anything; ads on all sides; ads breaking up the text, you can't even read the article.
In addition, the article was compiled by some bot, not even a human, which just copied it from Associated Press and changed a few words. Also, when sites just embed/copy the text of wikipedia and act like it's different information...nobody has any intelligence, creativity, or even the ability to write.
I miss the old html websites that a *human* actually handcrafted; and which had page counters, and fucking rainbow graphics and crazy blue or black background and green text. I can't even use the web anymore unless I know exactly where I'm going going, cause it's all shit

Anyone want to h*ck one of these big-ass s*tes?


"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever."


This is why Edutainment Youtube is the best, it's high quality and polished but focused on a specific audience.


I've been using YouTube for years, I've Unsubscribed from many channels I once loved because I've seen them eventually sell out. I've found many new channels I loved, that I Unsubscribed from because as soon as they become popular enough where they can make good money, they sell out. I barely Subscribe to anyone anymore & usually don't hit the Like button on the majority of videos I watch because of shitty practices like trying to peddle me shit, begging me to Sub/Like insulting my intelligence, or misleading me among other things. You sold me on this video because of your "INTEGRITY", you've listed everything I hate about this platform & many of its creators/fanbase. You're also not scared to share your views regardless of how popular or unpopular they might be, you're a rare one. Because of this I'll Subscribe.


I feel this so much. Back in the pre-google days there was actual community. People made vids, collabed, and then there was the stickam hangouts. Things sure changed.


Emplemons music taste is finer than a French wine


You are amazing!  I feel like you forced the blue pill in my mouth and now my eyes are as big as the moon


3 years later i want to go back to the good old days there is still good content on youtube its that theres just so much less now.


Idk man, You can still make it on youtube in 2020 if you work hard enough. But everyone's experience is likely different dependent upon what sort of content you make

Well, if you look at my content, it's a rugged, stitched production style. Enough for broad appeal.


I am very glad you made a transition to analysis videos. These were just, “put on screaming voice, occasionally contradict yourself, call people retarded for watching content they like, and produce the same content you criticize.


3 years later and this is still relevant


Thank you, you might of gave me the push to start writing again with your speech at the end.

made me do the opposite this makes me not want to make anything


I do agree this is not a sustainable formation. I have been thinking to myself why am I just watching videos because it's just there. Wasting so much time for things I don't care about. Props to you


They blocked my fucking Toonami parody video because I used a few seconds of Adele's "Hello" in it. This is an outrage. They also forced me to delete a slowed and reverb Prince song video I had up for a while because they blocked it. (I hear Prince's estate is very protective of his music, but ADELE?! Seriously?!)

stop using copyrighted music like it belongs to you then


I do legitimately wonder what would happen if all the good content creators just left to another platform. Let YouTube burn.


Three years later, this video is still relevant


Sad part about this is that there are people out there who make bank on just reuploading trailers and game event demoes and labelling them as "Walkthrough's" which they never fail to get good views on. If that isn't a good indication of where this site is going (or has already since the making of this video) I don't know what is.


being a channel of trash memes and minecraft lets plays, i can wholeheartedly agree with this video


You gotta watch "The Social Dilemma" Mr. Lemon, it goes perfectly with this.


What's funny is that this is one of my favorite YouTube videos


Calm down Emp. Most viewers with actual taste are just more silent than the blaring crowd. We appreciate your stuff.


This zombie watched 100% of the video haha. I do have to admit, I am not very proud of some things in my newest video, I didn't do enough research for the video to be accurate to the source material. I was worried that if i take too long to upload that i will loose relevance. But i should definitely learn from that if i want to have quality content. Thanks for the video man.


I'm just here to give props for including a cover of Achilles Last Stand because that song is heat


Creators should make a union<br>Edit: Even when I've become a monarchist-libertarian, I still stand by this.

Creators should make a union
Edit: Even when I've become a monarchist-libertarian, I still stand by this.


"Background done by Oney and Shadman" remember when shadman wasnt just a cursed punchline?

Me neither...


Man, your videos are awesome. I wish there was some way to add your new uploads to my feed or keep track of your channel... Maybe there's a button or something?

If ONLY there was a BUTTON


4:13 Kind of a missed opportunity: You could've called it Mystery Spadinner Theater 3000 instead of Spaghetti Toast Dinner Theater

4:13 Kind of a missed opportunity: You could've called it _Mystery Spadinner Theater 3000_ instead of _Spaghetti Toast Dinner Theater_


What I've seen in the past year more than anything is the absurd amount of ads played almost constantly through videos now. It's become such a pain in the ass to have to deal with them. And of course what's the solution? Pay for premium service, and you won't have to deal with them any longer. Ad blocker may seem like a way around it, but I picked up a virus from that a while back. So pay for youtube if you don't want constant interruptions? It's the old mob protection racket.. if you don't want trouble, pay for our 'service'. And of course people say 'well youtube needs to make money from ad revenue right?' They were already making a fortune. They've just become greedy


Probably the single BIGGEST nerf to Youtube's UI is the removal of an actual related videos section, which were key to getting lost in a particular type of videos and being on "the weird part of YouTube". It made browsing YouTube feel like going on an adventure.

Now we have "Recommended for you" videos which are based on the entirety of your search/watch history, liked videos, etc, resulting in completely irrelevant videos. It makes it much harder to bingewatch a certain type of videos by a variety of different uploaders (like YTP's, YTPMV's or fads). There is no longer a "weird part of YouTube". Now it's all just... YouTube.

And it sucks.

Proof that the algorithm and the entire website has descended into a worse beyond state of this downward spiral

All of these problems in this website including this algorithm is the same if not worse


Long videos work for me. But short videos need to have warnings.


youtube today has been intense pain
80% of the channels that I used to watch has lowered their quality down in favor of the algorithm, they turned into fake ass personas to entertain way younger audience.
the ads via mobile are literally EVERYWHERE to the point that the only comfortable way to use the platform is with the adblock enabled on pc. the ads are so obnoxious now that the moment I see a midroll ad, I just close the video and watch the rest with adblock. I will NEVER buy their premium bullshit because I do not want to support them, I'm not happy with their services and treatment with the creators, so why the fuck should I pay premium for them?
whenever I want to look for a specific video or meme, or clip, the results are always people reacting to the video instead of the original video itself. no matter how long I keep looking for it it just does not show up. sometimes they even show irrelevant results that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm looking for.


Emp made the theory and Dunkey is proving it right


Emp is the cmpunk of YouTube and YouTube is Vince, I love all references to wwe in this video


22:32
Man! Exurb1a got on trending before? Hell yeah the guy deserves that and more

yeah came here for this he also wrote quality youtuber which (:


Real talk if YouTube shutting down is what it takes for things to change for the better then so be it. Here's hoping somewhere out there there's a place for people to flock to.


my favourite youtuber NerdCubed one of the first ones i ever watched his channel has died due to youtube drama around ads and stuff hes moved to twitch and is doing well but i miss the old days


i love how many pink floyd references there are in this video. fav band ever


i feel like every youtuber now adays just makes an attempt to put more editing into their videos than actual content, but fails, the templates for most content creators are the same. its all the same, theres nothing really "professional", yet every youtuber tries to act like they are a professional but they deny that they are amateurs, even if they just started youtube. just be yourself and make your own videos, you dont even need to put the time into editing much unless its something important. but as you mentioned, the people that have to get all of the subscribers all of the time are the unoriginal people that have no talent at all. talented people just get nothing, no support, barely any subs for today's standards, and if they do get support, its not much.


Same story, 3 years later. I would say hopefully it will get better soon, but we all kbow that won't happen.


"Subscribe" gets so freaking annoying. I realized that a while ago. I think it's also a feedback loop, because newer youtubers think they need to say that at the end of their video b/c everyone does it. It's like the custom you have to follow


They don't cite sources properly even when it seems they're trying. I've had OC (trends I fucking started) featured on KnowYourMeme as a featured meme down in the bottom gallery while someone who literally reposted my same shit on reddit got the credit for the trend. The timestamps are there with my OC posted before them, clear as day. Just one example. Fuck that site.


I hope someone makes a diffrent website that uses all the old stuff that made old YouTube great


"You should be asking people to unsubscribe!"

Jmac: You called?

"You _should_ be asking people to unsubscribe!"

Jmac: You called?

There is a polish Youtuber that is called "Eleven" and he pleased the viewers to unsub his channel to make special.


Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.. I feel that.


I'm happy I at least have OneyPlays.. as long as I'm getting something from the dude


me when i see emplemon say the word spiral:<br>"OH OH HE SAID IT GUYS HE SAID THE WORD"

me when i see emplemon say the word spiral:
"OH OH HE SAID IT GUYS HE SAID THE WORD"


yt is a corporate wasteland with the same 5 recommended videos cycling endlessly. cant even find weird stuff, no way to


it's sad that you never see any comments saying "guess I'm on the weird part of youtube" anymore


They essentially use their own popularity to scrub away independent creators from the public eye and use it to show more corporate stuff, at its core it's a good platform, I derive all of my entertainment from it after all, but it has several massive fucking problems that override the good things.


The fact that this is still relevant 3 years later worries me...


The most epic takedown of one's own audience outside of Twin Peaks The Return (as interpreted by Twin Perfect in that four 1\2 hour film studies course.)

I made a channel to adapt old comics into videos but I have no budget, just the love and a little voice acting and writing,  and the comic pages themselves. I know I can't compete with bigger channels so I try to pick things I love but aren't very popular so my videos serve some purpose. The weirder the better, I know a lot of weird comics to cover as well as older superhero stuff that's just forgotten after 25 years. But I don't care about ever getting popular, only about doing work im proud of.


I honestly perfer old YouTube poop. It has more of that low fi DIY charm.


We should revamp this for 2020 discussing the COPPApocalypse


Emplemon: YouTube is censoring independent journalism.
Proceeds to show a picture of the founder of the Proud Boys.
(I know the Proud Boys became popular after the video came out, but that segment is now in bad taste due to the Proud Boys. However, the video is still very good.)


3 years later and YouTube downward spiral is still spiraling downward


this is the ultimate showdown was the jam and still is- also guess I'll give up my hopes on being an animator

@Arthricia Waybright you can be paid for that but only that animation is profitable now which sucks

I gave up on my dreams too not sure what to do now


All of which makes me anxious<br>At times unbearably so

All of which makes me anxious
At times unbearably so


the ultimategmoney 2021 NASCAR dude - top gear


Creators should consider reposting on vimeo and other sites with no profit motive. It's the only way to build a grassroots, offsite community.


I really like this video but damn it killed allll my motivation to become a youtuber


the site is so big now it is impossible to recapture that sense of popularity and effort again, and that is not their fault of course we were going to reach this era sometimes, I don't know, but admittedly they did fuck up the system a bunch.


I know youtubers have to follow some procedure to create videos that will be seen by people, but is there a way for us viewers to abuse likes, subscriptions, and searches to get more of the content we enjoy? (aside from obvious stuff like subscribing to people we like and liking videos we like)

you've got a point, but as of now i dont really see a way to do that. we're gonna need everything we know about the algortihm and maybe even more


this video made me delete about 20% of my likes that don't stand up as good to this day to prepare to unhide my liked videos playlist. turns out that youtube is going to delete that feature for some reason, so instead i made a new playlist about videos i like so it's going to still be visible to others. why would youtube remove unhidden liked videos? it's one of the only ways for creators to tell their viewers, "you should also check out this video", the other being featured channels and community posts

it also expresses the channel's interests and hobbies, so for example from my pseudo-like playlist you can see that i like sweet music and animations, and that lilly is clearly best girl from katawa shoujo

this video made me delete about 20% of my likes that don't stand up as good to this day to prepare to unhide my liked videos playlist. turns out that youtube is going to delete that feature for some reason, so instead i made a new playlist about videos i like so it's going to still be visible to others. why would youtube remove unhidden liked videos? it's one of the only ways for creators to tell their viewers, "you should also check out this video", the other being featured channels and community posts

it also expresses the channel's interests and hobbies, so for example from my pseudo-like playlist you can see that i like sweet music and animations, -and that lilly is clearly best girl from katawa shoujo-


Oh you poor sweet thing. The reason why YouTubers tell their viewers to subscribe is because it works. Really well, actually. I'm seeing one YouTuber saying it almost doubles their audience engagement numbers compared to when they don't ask on a given video. It's basic psychology, man. It's not that users don't know that subscribing is an option, it's that users are more likely to do something if you ask them to then if you don't.

This was in 2017, it wasn't as well known that it worked, it was just done because everyone did it


I remember this one YouTube video I watched back in the day that reminds me of Ori and blind forest.


Klay world for life!<br>And then you play double bass by Gorillaz!?! I think you just became my favorite channel

Klay world for life!
And then you play double bass by Gorillaz!?! I think you just became my favorite channel


YouTube was NEVER corporate!
Oh boy how much do I have to tell you this old man
YouTube has always been corporate if you check the corporate channels join dates its literally 2007 to 2010.

@Nukes during 2010 all lot of corpatrate channels were replacing individuals. Just go see Jimmy Kimmel and the late night shows who were big during early 2010s. Plus individuals still run the plaform.
Mrbeast
Pewds
Danny gonzalez
Dude perfect
James charles
Lazerbeam
Dream
Georgenotfound
Theodd1sout

Difference between pushing coporations and letting the faces of the platform become corporate shills instead of independent creators and allowing them on the platform


Youtube has really been getting comfortable with 2 non skippable ads lately


i was old enough to get the fallout of the content from 2007-2010


3 years later, and it's still getting worse


Yo emp.. when life hands u u, make lemonade


Someone please make a YouTube channel where they just review Facebook and it's controversy


I try and be a gaming channel in the sense of mkiceandfire long streams of games because that's all I can do and love the videos hope you can have fun with your current adventures in YouTube


They should change the algorithm to watch percentage in order to help animators


I come from the future and oh boy it gets much much much worse you don't know the half of it


I remember being able to find related content based on the current video being watched. Now, my Autoplay is just a series of long videos i've watched through already. Speaking of which, why is there a two and a half hour video "Introduction to the Idea of God" in the related to this video!?? cuz its long?

And when i tell youtube "I'm not interested in this video, i've watched it already"" they go
"DON'T CARE! YOU WATCH AGAIN NOW!"


I'm just watching this, 3 years later and it's even worse now. Vomit inducing normie content. Which youtubers do you recommend for golden age type content?


You were given to me by the algorythm...


And now the Markiplier/Critikal censorship.<br>The madness continues...

And now the Markiplier/Critikal censorship.
The madness continues...


How would you react if someone said this to you why does  your soul tastes so weird? That's just a fictional funny story I have


24:50 EDDSWORLD the channel that made my childhood!
Edit:It’s near the lower right corner


man i remember watching charlie the unicorn and i believe it was llamas with hats and other animations like that


7:05 anyone know the name and origin of this song its familiar to me but I cant put my finger in it.


Isn't this also a product of cultural change driven by social media shifts?


first encountered youtube at 4. This site has gotten boring for a 16 year old whos already seen it all


After breakfast and uncle Dane I like this man


Dumb down and pandering sounds like gaming lol


bruh, 49 minutes of good content? so cringe, why should i watch one long video when i could watch many ten minute ad swamped garbage videos?


and in 2020 i think that youtube allowed people to see the percentage of people subscribed or something, i don't really know because very, very few youtubers seem to use it


anyone that disliked either impulse disliked, saw the runtime, or is another youtuber


I mean.. the excessive audio-cringe is quite the annoyance.. but i'm old.. liked the rawness of it all, though .. and the delightful irony..


I have to admit: this is the video that got me into Prog-Rock. Dancing with the Moonlit Knight and Tarkus are now two of my favourite songs of all time, and I doubt I'd have ever even cared about a 10+ min song was it not by its masterful use in this already great video. Thanks for the great music, EmpLemon!


"Backgrounds by Oney and Shadman." Shadman? The hentai artist?


Rest in Peace, kitty0706.<br>You will never be forgotten.

Rest in Peace, kitty0706.
You will never be forgotten.

kitty0706 died from terminal illness in the height of his youtube popularity.  He made G-Mod animations that were wildly popular and heavily stylized back in the day.  And his magnum opus, "Team Fabulous Two"  was a 20 minute video of his art style in full creative bloom.  Now it stands as a testament to an older age of creative content.

He died of Leukemia back in 2015, something he had been fighting for years and had seemed to be recovering from. It was incredibly tragic, R.I.P. kitty0706.

and not like, fade out of popularity sort of dying, no, DYING from some real life factor and not being able to do things anymore. We're not talking about Leafyishere-type dying, we're talking about Abraham Lincoln's assasination-type dying. Sudden, and at the worst possible time

A staple in the oldschool internet community, and honestly, an important message that even gods can die


Youtube has become television. Just filled with unoriginal, uninteresting, and bland content. smh


2017: YouTube’s been on a Downward Spiral!

2019: COPPA ruins everyone’s lives

@Mr. Mr  What if I reach the diamond play button for one reason, to wake up all Youtubers to violate every guideline. That probably wouldn't happen.

He works for the DMCA law and has set up one that anyone who uses copyrighted material in their media, either for commercial purposes or not, will get arrested. Search up DMCA law and you’ll see what I mean

Thom Tillis: Hold my awful lawful act...

@Just a rat ripping a bong I am already doing it since about a day ago. YouTube's current algorithm is created, thanks to exploits from the old algorithm (Clickbaity videos), I am exploiting the current algorithm by putting on the same video, looping seemingly forever in many tabs while muted to generate watch time very quickly i.e. 600 hours watch time daily. That's how to go upwards in popularity if you're not popular yet. I would get several hundred people to do the exploit to reach a couple hundred thousand hours of watch time per day.

@Just a rat ripping a bong Well, I know exactly how to force YouTube to go back to its glory days again.

@dacreatif2 (The Local Maniac) COPPAS done nothing

2020: Youtube's been in a much deeper Downward Spiral than Video Games and Youtube in 2017 combined, thanks to stupid sexy COPPA!

2020: Laughing at how people thought coppa was going to be bad while being forced to stay at home

Jan B. yeah right<br>kids never sub to channels

Jan B. yeah right
kids never sub to channels

And now Keem and H3H3 are taking away the only chances of income

@Soshi The Yoshi And COPPA was a thing that YT was forced to implement by the government

Sam T Yup, this was before we figured out what it actually did

And it did almost nothing except cause a couple of minor inconveniences.

@Mergie Then maybe children shouldn't be using Youtube, and if they are, have it so that the kids can't view the comments. Also, just because a video looks pretty, such as Happy Tree Friends, doesn't mean that it is suitable for children. There has to be people that can check these types of videos, or else the themes present may affact them badly.

+PATFORMER <br>People were commenting pedophillic things on with videos tho

+PATFORMER
People were commenting pedophillic things on with videos tho

Let's block comments on all videos we find " Child Friendly"and disable miniplayer.

Jan B. I’m probably sure it’s the latter

Actually coppa is a great opportunity for YouTube content to improve, since children are the ones new to the platform, unequipped to find good channels amongst the mediocre ones, so they end up watching mediocre videos aimed at kids. Coppa will force these channels out of viability, improving content quality overall.<br>Of course it's also possible that the whole thing ends up forcing creators to taylor their content more than ever before. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Actually coppa is a great opportunity for YouTube content to improve, since children are the ones new to the platform, unequipped to find good channels amongst the mediocre ones, so they end up watching mediocre videos aimed at kids. Coppa will force these channels out of viability, improving content quality overall.
Of course it's also possible that the whole thing ends up forcing creators to taylor their content more than ever before. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

And so, Youtube has gone even deeper into the downward spiral..


Am simple viewer: I hear Karn Evil 9... I click like 😂 Edit: and then you delight me with some Tarkus!


If I found a video sharing website, where smaller channels were promoted more, subscribers, comments and ratings actually mattered, you had to find videos and click on them with a mouse to watch them, the design was familiar and didn't change unless it improved the functionality of the website, people made creative, original content just for fun, and the main purpose was to be different and better than TV, I would be more than happy to switch to that website.

What if everybody who makes good content and people who watch and care about good content just up and left this website and let it rot in its own filth

I've heard some reports about Vidme having similar hate speech rules though. Just a word of warning, and I don't know whether it's true or not.

Yeah, its FORTUNATELY VIDME GO THERE <b>NOW</b>

Yeah, its FORTUNATELY VIDME GO THERE *NOW*

Solo Soy Jota I made an account on vidme, but now I'm confused cuz I'm new

JK. It surely seems like Vidme. I loved Vidme.

Also, you can have a networking system similar to YouTube's. That way, people that like your content can go out and find your other channels as well as the other guys.


I started watching youtube for the same reason you did, I disliked tv but when I realized they where trying to become a shitty tv I mostly stopped watching youtube

By the way thanks for speaking up for everyone

The Green HYPERsphere because it willed it....


YouTube poops aren't popular anymore because YouTube has become the poop itself

@Dusk Raccoon I'd say it's thanks to the old media who targeted him

lol so fucking sad man. Stuff from the classical era.


You deserve all the subscribers in the world!!!!


I'm 16 and I've been watching YouTube since it was "broadcast yourself" and people like Fred and annoying orange and chocolate rain and leave britney alone and all those other old stone age memes and youtubers were popular and when pewdiepie wasn't the top you tuber and he made amnesia videos. My mother introduced youtube to me, she's been watching YouTube for damn near its entire life a pan, and me and her still do to this  day and its honestly so depressing to see what its evolved into. Jake Paul this and Jake Paul that. ______ Youtuber  calls out ______ Youtuber for ________
Drama Drama Drama Drama Drama
Complain Complain Complain Complain

And no matter how far down the shitter this website goes it won't matter because we are still going to watch YouTube for those tiny rare moments that we actually find that one, good video to watch and enjoy.

And no matter how much we complain or makes videos about it. There's still gonna be drama, there's still gonna be shit content, but there is also still gonna be good (but rare) content.

And I dont think youtube is going ANYWHERE forever imo because no matter how shitty its turning, I still think it is the best website to entertain yourself with videos.

Oh and also dont hate on johnny test that was my shit back in the day 😤😤😤😤

I'm 16 and I've been watching YouTube since it was "broadcast yourself" and people like Fred and annoying orange and chocolate rain and leave britney alone and all those other old stone age memes and youtubers were popular and when pewdiepie wasn't the top you tuber and he made amnesia videos. My mother introduced youtube to me, she's been watching YouTube for damn near its entire life a pan, and me and her still do to this  day and its honestly so depressing to see what its evolved into. Jake Paul this and Jake Paul that. ________ Youtuber  calls out ________ Youtuber for __________
Drama Drama Drama Drama Drama
Complain Complain Complain Complain

And no matter how far down the shitter this website goes it won't matter because we are still going to watch YouTube for those tiny rare moments that we actually find that one, good video to watch and enjoy.

And no matter how much we complain or makes videos about it. There's still gonna be drama, there's still gonna be shit content, but there is also still gonna be good (but rare) content.

And I dont think youtube is going ANYWHERE forever imo because no matter how shitty its turning, I still think it is the best website to entertain yourself with videos.

Oh and also dont hate on johnny test that was my shit back in the day 😤😤😤😤


Someone please make a meme horror movie I will also make one