Honestly, besides everything else, this is why I absolutely despise meme culture.

Honestly, the meme / commentary community pretends to be a good set of people who-can-do-no-wrong, claiming that they are against things like doxxing and violence, but when any form of meme is touched by something they disagree on, they somewhat go up in arms. Honestly, people end up being so on-edge (or edgy) on these contreversies that they end up creating a hatedom out of them.

The same thing happened to MrEnter in the art commentary community. Everyone hated him for making a kickstarter that was unachievable (note: not a scam), but people thought that he was just milking money like he was the same from his previous drama.

Now look how much in shambles he is.

The same thing happened to CWC. 4chan bullied him, and now most people despise him.

Look at youtubers like MisterMetokur, EmpLemon, Leafy, and etc. They have a huge fanbase somehow always behind them in any situation, and look at the hatedom that comes out of it.

@Shyguymask look around for a bit. You'll find a few.

Justin Just saying there's a big overlap.

I always tent to ignore the fandoms because of reason's like that, sure, it's the vocal minority that are the ones that often causes issues and hate, not the quiet majority who takes that fandom stuff only around appropriate situations. But still.

アメリカやイギリスを英語だ笑い方

Harry Tomato He didn't stop at all. And there is nothing wrong. He refunded it all back. Stop trying to be so overly edgy over nothing.

Plus 44% of Kickstarter projects are always underfunded. I don't see how Mr enter is such an exception that we all need to throw a fit at him.

KillMeWithPotato MisterMetokur has a channel where the content is very hatred based, and the people he targets are usually insane and deserving, or at least scum bags in their own way. His philosophy is create chaos and watch the dumpster fire, he’s kind of in a different category than EmpLemon, whereas leafy made hate content out of ignorance and ego

KillMeWithPotato I’ve watched mrenter since 2012 and he is in shambles because of how idiotic he is and how he tried to raise a ton of money for some unplanned garbage theoretical show. He used to make fine reviews, now he stopped all that to do a show that won’t turn out. It’s his fault he is where his is now

KaijuDino 1235 But honestly, what did he do to deserve such a hatedom out of him?

He only made a kickstarter and he did not scam anyone. He just made a very unachievable goal of a lot of $$$. The shit he got for it was undeserved. He refunded everyone who donated and called it quits in a rant.

He isn't the same person he is from his previous drama. He has genuine mental health issues and is genuinely trying to improve. The shit he got for the kickstarter was uncalled for. Most of the 'criticisms' the art commentary community tried to give were honestly pretty bad. Turkey tom called him a 'pedo' for fuck's sake.

Shyguymask Oh man, just last year every one was totally up in arms with btm.

I may have worded it as a generalization, but I should've mentioned it differently. I mean that it's a common occurence in the meme community.

Shyguymask Oh man, just last year every one was totally up in arms with btm.

I may have worded it as a generalization, but I should've mentioned it differently. I mean that it's a *common occurence* in the meme community.

Sir GrandPuppy Sadly the edgy 12 year olds from 2016 have grown up and now overlap the fans of this channel. It's bound to happen.

And sadly, I'd be willing to say that any channel that tries to put a guise of 'edge' is bound to have a fanbase (though not on the same caliber) similar to leafy's.

KillMeWithPotato um what hate do you suggest came from emplemon’s fandom? If you ask me, a majority of the hate was from Pyrocynical’s video on Btm. Or maybe it was a combination. But you cannot say Emp’s fanbase is like Leafy’s (or anyone’s fanbase for that matter.)

"Honestly, the meme / commentary community pretends to be a good set of people who-can-do-no-wrong, claiming that they are against things like doxxing and violence"

Literally no one ever said that.

Perhaps if he told the fans when it was proving to be a deadend and how it's likely never to fully materialize as a way to explain himself, he wouldn't get as much of a stigma towards him for it.


I’m sure he has a good heart man. I don’t think he has any bad intentions.


DOWNWARD SPIRAL COMING TO A HALT<br>gotta take it slow for that shit that really matters

DOWNWARD SPIRAL COMING TO A HALT
gotta take it slow for that shit that really matters


points gun at behind the meme
points gun at emp
Damnnn now I don't know who to shoot

*points gun at behind the meme*
*points gun at emp*
Damnnn now I don't know who to shoot

@Djz105
>"both are normies"
>spells collat "callat"

Just... Just get out.

Line them up for a callat, both are normies


He should have just made a video for suicide awareness


EmpLemon, this video is so hard to look at for more than 30 seconds.


>Subscribes to EmpLemon
>First channel in recommended is BehindTheMeme

As funny as this is, I think this is a testament to the number of haters from Emp's channel subscribed to BehindTheMeme.


The road to hell is paved with good intentions.-_-

My own quote: “Every bad ending has the parts that make it forgivable.”

Sure, that saying can be true in some cases, but it's always better to look at a situation from more then one angle.

アメリカやイギリスを英語だ笑い方

I've always hated that quote. It's often used by those who have forgotten how to forgive and forgive-ness is a very important part in just about every religion and a road to hell is only paved when you do something you believe is bad and is but is justified by whatever the outcome may be.


don't hate the player, hate the game

okay that doesn't really fit but you get the idea


I kinda had the thought that BTM was just a naive kid, too. He always gave off that vibe. Benevolent, for lack of a better word.


I still hate him but i won't harass him or anything. Im just done with acknowledging him.


No seriously, why did you defend him, he's a grown man.


That's called bringing spongebob philosophy full circle.


And here I thought the controversy had died down since then.


It’s still sad that BtM has more subs than EmpLemon.

Youtube favors people that upload more often

Yeah, but it's the whole "Empty Subscriber" situation

KingSkyLord Emplemon's sub count used to be in the millions


wow. He made a YouTube video called how behind the meme is ruining the memescape as we know it and then posts this


Anyone else think this was a joke video until you checked Behind The Meme's channel?


Another youtuber most people won't know was a terraria youtuber, he made a bunch of genuinely worrying tweets and videos making it seem he was in danger. He even set up an alarm thing where if something was to happen to his heart rate it would send out a tweet of the details or something like that. Codes were being tweeted by him and everyone was finding them to be severely worrying. The kill switch went off and it was tweeted out, people called the police and such to find him, they did as far as I'm aware, completely fine. He wanted to make an 'alternate reality arg' which involved him pretending he was in genuine danger that he had to set up kill switches and leave behind cryptic clues. This seems vaguely similar to this scenario, channel was dying so they try something drastic.


Every video i click on from EmpLemon is a whole story and then some


I know what he did seemed shallow, and it probably was . But I suppose there is the possibility that it was a poorly done cry for help. Maybe he actually is/was seriously depressed, and that was his way of telling people. Or maybe I'm wrong and he's just a crappy person. I dunno. I've struggled with mental health my whole life and suicide is kind of a personal topic to me. I just hope he's okay and that he learns that what he did wasn't right.


Yep I had been thinking on it and it was a pretty terrible thing for him to do


Even if he's innocent, he never listened to the people. He never changed. That's the one thing I find wrong about him. He was just too pretentious to realize that his content was bad.

Maybe if you actually gave constructive criticism instead of saying “normie reeeeee” or “you kill memes”, he could of tried to improve! Telling someone to delete their channel or the other quotes I stated above over a meme is not criticism at all! It’s just being an asshole! If you didn’t say any of that stuff to BTM at all, then good on you, but sadly, those kinds kinds of comments outweighed the people who actually tried to give constructive criticism! No, him faking depression was not okay, but don’t act like what the meme people did was much better! They harassed this guy and sent him death threats because apparently, “their memes were under attack” OH GOD, NO!!! Yet, they try to cover it up by saying that he should of listened to their “criticism” (emphasis on the word criticism for you know why), but that just makes them no different than BTM himself!


Aw you got soft on me?? How does he have good intentions? He’s a naive fool who should be hated!


I'm not going to hate him, never did. I really don't give too shits about what's going on.


Behind the meme is going down a downward spiral


When you bully and shit on a guy to make Minute Memes only to have it flop so you feel bad.


I thought Behind the Meme was roasted to death


Behind the Meme<br>is on a Downward Spiral


Judge: empLemon is...GUILTY!<br>(Smicity smackity smack smack)

Judge: empLemon is...GUILTY!
(Smicity smackity smack smack)


I mean, good point, but you uploaded a video on emperor lime making fun of the fake suicide so this entire video seems hypocritical.


Emplemon killed the words normie and kekistan with that video.<br>Have anyone realized this?

Emplemon killed the words normie and kekistan with that video.
Have anyone realized this?


okay, what the fuck? how’d the hell did I not know about this? I hated Behind the meme before, but not with a burning passion. I didn’t think he was nieve, but after his RIP Robbie Rotten video, (RIP) I gainer s o m e respect for the guy. After these cryptic videos, I believe he’s someone who might want  a fresh start so he tried to do something to raise mental health awareness or suicide awareness but obviously failed.


I feel like his last 5 videos reflect the channel.
He commit suicide in the 5th video.
His channel died after that.
Perhaps he knew that his channel was about to die.


So are we good going to talk about bowserette?


Hey man much love been watching since your old ytp's


Wow this video really took an unexpected turn


I swear you said you would never talk about BehindTheMeme channel in your downwards spiral video and would leave him alone.


wow the visual on this vid actually hurts my eyes


Oh boy and his channel is meant to be a meme review channel


Also, he said he was also going through some things.


It is considered too late to be forgiven, nor forgotten, Emp. The damage is done, and you have no power to fix anymore.

It is like the monument of Ozymandias. You cannot make it up to me, nor anyone else like that broken statue; the monument of your sins.

The incident made you beyond redemption, as this can't be fixed anymore. You can avoid making the same mistakes to people who actually tried to explain the memes, but you can't fix the past that made permanent enemies.

Such is life. And life finds a way to come back to haunt you to your grave. This is coming from life experience.


behind the meme more like behind the curtains is him crying at the demise of his channel


We should have probably all thought like this from the beginning


And the emperor of lemons has left his empire for awhile


For those who didn't watch the original part .5:<br>GG

For those who didn't watch the original part .5:
GG


You should move to lesson in meme culture(batter than bihind the meme)


Still not a fan of his content cause it feels like everything is spoonfed. I guess there is some truth to your point. However, the huge suicide thing is way too much for me as I suffer from severe depression. The suicide thing honestly made me not want to even look at him anymore. I just ignore him so whatever.

I suffered from depression, and the series is actually well made. I just feel like he executed the end WAY too poorly.


buster only full screen mode captions on boss rush


Can tell that 90% of people saying shit to him just went with it because Everyone else did


So he was a " Spongebob" and turned into a "Squidward" due to hate


behind the meme is lost in the downward spiral


Some of these "heart grew 3 inches" comments makes me think of a Grinch movie for Lemon


Seriously the guy probably made the last set of videos because he was confused by all the negative attention from his videos. I mean amateur videos explaining memes are not justifiable for what happened to him, and what would anyone do in a situation where you can't defend yourself for doing literally nothing? Look what it did to John Proctor for instance.


Behind The Meme reminds me of Forrest Gump.


behind the meme? more like behind the grave


YouTube: Let's just push this to the side and Demonitize all of his videos like leafyishere.


Looks like there’s no tap dancing on behind the memes coffin singing we are the champions


you could say BtM is on a D O W N W A R D S P I R A L


Maybe BTM really does have depression and this is just his way of expressing himself

If you watch his latest video, you can see that this was all for 'raising suicide awareness'. I believe it's all a publicity stunt to jump-start his new channel.


Did you ever here the tragedy of Darth behind the meme


I didn't even realize this was a thing until yesterday when I read your tweet


Fake suicide he attempted but he realize that his earning revenue while this other youtubers doesnt believe Behind The Meme was the youtuber or memer to watch


As someone who knew a person who killed them self, I find BTM’s latest actions despicable and immoral.

Emotions don't equal logical thinking. Don't always let your emotions effect your judgement, in a situation like this, he tried to do something for genuine intent.

アメリカやイギリスを英語だ笑い方

As some who has had to stop a friend from killing themselves with a pipe-bomb. As a friend of some-one who has schizophrenia that brings him to suicidal urges at least 3 times a week.
As a friend of someone who I had to inform had all the major symptoms of PTSD from his ex fiance raping him and that he needed to start seeing a therapist because each night he would wake up feeling like he was in a life or death situation because of what she did and how because of where he lived he wouldn't get a fair trial.

As a friend who has been the only thing stopping all these 3 separate people i've listed from taking their own life I think you need to move on and learn when to let go of the pain and learn when to forgive because he in all of his heart he just wanted to make things better for everyone but just made things worse for themselves and that is truly at the heart of what people experience when they take their own life if not wanting to feel pain anymore.
If you really did lose someone that way you didn't learn what you should of from it. Be forgiving, please... it's just about the only way to make this world a bit better of a place that everyone can do.

As some who has had to stop a friend from killing themselves with a pipe-bomb. As a friend of some-one who has schizophrenia that brings him to suicidal urges at least 3 times a week.
As a friend of someone who I had to inform had all the major symptoms of PTSD from his ex fiance raping him and that he needed to start seeing a therapist because each night he would wake up feeling like he was in a life or death situation because of what she did and how because of where he lived he wouldn't get a fair trial.

As a friend who has been the only thing stopping all these 3 *separate* people i've listed from taking their own life I think you need to move on and learn when to let go of the pain and learn when to forgive because he in all of his heart he just wanted to make things better for everyone but just made things worse for themselves and that is truly at the heart of what people experience when they take their own life if not wanting to feel pain anymore.
If you really did lose someone that way you didn't learn what you should of from it. Be forgiving, please... it's just about the only way to make this world a bit better of a place that everyone can do.

"unintentionally" despicable and immoral. It doesn't help that Logan Paul set the standard low. BTM ain't no Logan.

I get that that but they did come from a genuine place.  But yeah a discussion vlog probably would have been a better way to handle it.


I have no strong feelings one way or the other.


It would be cool if emp did an vid on the rise and fall of club penguin


checks behindthememe's channel's videos after hearing first ~0:50
WHOA WHAT BITCH WHAT THE FUCK ARG INCOMING

*checks behindthememe's channel's videos after hearing first ~**0:50*
WHOA WHAT BITCH WHAT THE FUCK ARG INCOMING


That's the worst thing I've ever heard. He should have never even thought about doing that. Suicide jokes are funny, but unironically faking a down word spiral ending with a fake gunshot is not ok, especially if he was doing that trying to "cause awareness"


I wanted to believe it was fake, but I couldn't shake the feeling that it was real. The thing that concerned me the most was that the videos were on auto upload so he could've been dead for a week by the time the last video was out. Of course I knew it was fake when he shot himself in the last video.

Even though he was faking it, he still made me feel bad. I felt guilty for the state he was in. All he wanted to do was make harmless meme videos for fun and we made fun of and bully him relentlessly. The videos humanized him and  showed the harshness of the internet. Although annoying, he was always so positive in his videos and got a disproportionate amount of hate for what he did.

And bullying a man to suicide isn't what Stéfan would've wanted.


I mean he did confessed that his channel would be dead and gone


Honestly dude I knew this was fake just because it’s like a creepypasta. Like it feels straight out of a creepypasta


Interesting video but please never use that background on a commentary video again, its really trippy looking at it


BehindTheMeme: All according to plan...!

The Sword Art Online Dickriding Association


Wait i thought you ended his life months ago


Knew the whole time you were acting like a great big chad.<br>Lmao teenagers trying to defend themselves at school from being considered normies from watching Behind the Meme when your video blew up.

Knew the whole time you were acting like a great big chad.
Lmao teenagers trying to defend themselves at school from being considered normies from watching Behind the Meme when your video blew up.


An EmpLemon video that's UNDER 20 MINUTES LONG!??!!?!!

Who are you and what have you done with the real EmpLemon!!!!

An EmpLemon video that's *UNDER 20 MINUTES LONG!??!!?!!*

*Who are you and what have you done with the real EmpLemon!!!!*


For all we know it could be obfuscating stupidity.


Emplemons Heart grew three sizes that day.


BTM: Boohoo, people said mean things to me on the internet, better off myself :'(((


Hello internet and welcome to behind the meme and today we are talking about the trollface


What in the heck did you think he was doing??? That's all he's ever been is some weirdo with a following on the internet.


His content changed because of this experience


I think this whole behind the meme incident show how horrible the internet can be. Yes he did pretty clumsily make that series but like Emp said he did it with good intentions, the one of the things I've taken away from this video is that the internet is so used to seeing people make up identity's that are strictly on the internet and aren't good representations of how someone is, that if someone were to truly just be themselves on the internet that the internet would get confused and just kinda do this sort of shit because they think it's all an act. Maybe we should take this lesson and be more true to ourselves.


Honestly, this is a double-edged sword for me. On one side, I do feel bad for BTM. The amount of hate that this guy is getting is a bit too much. Sure, memes are an important factor to our lives. They can save lives, change history, and just be there to get an idea out in the fastest way possible. I know the guy's trying, it's just that he misunderstands his position in the memescape, as a teacher. Memes(at least the good ones) take time to make, research, and share, and I do believe that he could've had potential, only if he took the time to fully get the best research into the topic.

Now on the other side of the spectrum, I do feel like BTM is kind of being a  pity bitch. Yes, I do get the fact that some people are more sensitive than others, but this is a fully grown adult, shown by him able to buy vodka. Surely, he should at least take in the criticism that was bought up in Emp's video on him. The main problem with BTM, is that he markets himself as the meme god that knows all, but when in reality, he barely knows about what the memes he reviews. All he does is read off an out-dated web-page and call's it a day. Hell, he barely gives any GOOD examples. Sure, I know what copyright is, but at least he should've asked some of the people who make the memes to borrow a clip from them as an example for the video. Looping back to Emp's video, where most of the hate came from, he mentions most of what I've typed here. What I typed is the MAIN problem with BTM, but watch the video for more information and to get what I'm saying. Otherwise, I'll leave you with this...

Dear BTM and his haters, there is no winner here. With you haters, all you do is spam BTM with misunderstood meaning based on Emp's video. You guy's over-did it. But it's just as bad for BTM to act in such an immature way, doing stuff for attention. There truly is no winner between BTM over the outsiders, both have lost to the ultimate fate, YouTube itself...

It isn't unlike an adult to get consumed with fame. However, "overcome with fame" is the least accurate description of BehindTheMeme there is. Sure, he was ignorant, but he has amazingly good intentions. Sure, he may come off as lazy, but what EmpLemon is trying to say is that he didn't do it on purpose like he originally thought.

Yeah...what I meant were the good ones, but some of the memes from that year were kinda decent...*kinda*...

" Sure, memes are an important factor to our lives."<br>Aside from 2016, it really isn't.

" Sure, memes are an important factor to our lives."
Aside from 2016, it really isn't.

I know, but that's how the situation was, <b>edgy.</b>

I know, but that's how the situation was, *edgy.*

Dr.Dotty the fact that u calling it a double edged sword is too edgy for me


I had Depression and Suicidal from last two years.


so basically BTM is a brainlet with a good heart


Ooh, I was thirsty for some downwards spiral this morning EDIT: that was an actually disgusting to do


Life these days is Scary, if u make a commentary video about someone , it can destroy someones livelihood and send some one into depression. But some one can fake depression and suicide just to get back at someone.its scary how a little video can cause something like this.your a good guy emp ur videos are just criticism ur not attacking someone.theres nothing wrong with that.behind the meme shouldve made a response ,about how he makes these videos for fun then saying you guys attacked him his sucess.


top 10 villains that turned into the good guy


this video is in need of a higher bit-rate😤😤


This really makes me upset. When people fake depression and suicide it makes me disgusted. As someone who constantly struggles with depression, this just.. I can't even explain how I feel about it. It insults people like me. I honestly don't care if it's "suicide awareness". You should state that before you do it. I still don't support him with this. Emp, I really do support your opinion on this, but I just don't think I can forgive BTM for this. It's difficult. Maybe one day I can but, for now, I really can't. I thank you for making this video though. I don't HATE BTM. I really just don't support his "awareness". I hope people can understand what I'm putting out here.


I think emplemon <b>is</b> behind the meme


Sounds like me when I lose one follower on instagram after a good 100 likes a day.


You got it all wrong man, it was a test seeing if anyone would respond, and people did. And I guess in the end some people like you felt betrayed by this and want to call him a phony for what he did, but in the end it's just them having a new reason to hate on BTM. In the end, this all actually happened to him except for the gunshot to the head and you pretty much have to understand the past to know why this was done. This is why hes innocent.

And PS, this is all coming from the guy who made a 40 mintue video of having a DOWNWARD SPIRAL, thats just being a normie man.


This video is almost impossible to compress!


his suicide was <b>"poorly executed"</b>


Fuck, I've never expect to see this perspective


Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷 I love your videos


“Youtuber comes back from dead and dies again”


Probably explains why he's obsessed with Tomi Lauren and Lauren southern


His videos are kind of boring but yeah I agree he's probably just a genuine guy tryna live his life


Behind the meme should have said the fake suicide video was just a dark meme.


This was the YTP equivalent of the Mr Enter controversy.<br>Reddit is cucked and blue pilled once again

This was the YTP equivalent of the Mr Enter controversy.
Reddit is cucked and blue pilled once again


Just for the record I thought about how similar you and leafy are but you just seem like a better person than him, You're a guy who's willing to swallow your pride and admit you're wrong


How much did BehindTheMeme pay you to make this video?


I feel the same about btm the fake suicide was stupid but still he is probably depressed though.


I thought he killed his own channel 6 months ago


have you ever watched his draw my life video?


i learned my lesson from mcjuggernuggets


This is like Spongebob's "Ripped Pants" joke but in real life and even worse.


So when is the EmpLemon x BTM comics coming out?

Not slash, but I would like to see maybe a collab between these 2. It would be beyond heartwarming to see these 2 guys genuinely become friends.

As soon as we're done with Bowsette. So never

oh god no, leave that thought alone please


Hey Emp, are planning to make new video analyzing the current state of YouTube? (Almost like a sequel to "YT has <br>being on a DOWNWARD SPIRAL!)

Hey Emp, are planning to make new video analyzing the current state of YouTube? (Almost like a sequel to "YT has
being on a DOWNWARD SPIRAL!)


Someone edit it into crab rave<br>- Behind The Meme Is Gone -

Someone edit it into crab rave
- Behind The Meme Is Gone -


i though BTM was completely gone off the web


There were people who thought it was real? Lol


My only question is why no one thought that doxxing was going too far.


I thought this was gonna lead to btm shilling BetterHelp.


Woah.. <b>pat</b> Now this is what I like to listen about

Woah.. *pat* Now this is what I like to listen about


Honestly I don't think a naive idiot should be able to have influence over 800000 other naive  little kids, especially when he's gonna do stuff like that, I don't feel sorry for him


hot damn this video is hotter than a spoon at Demi Lovato's house


Wait what emplemon your good now? I guess i should subscribe to you now


The background kills the YouTube quality.


Double plot twist: he actually commits suicide.


this is so sad can we gay erp on emp's discord server?


Behind the Meme? More like Behind the Green!


I'd rather have a hundred Behind The Memes than a Ricegum or Logan Paul


I honestly thought YOU were behind the meme


Your voice kinda sounds like behind the meme's voice.


Never assume someone does bad things out of malice rather than stupidity.


Wait, so Behind The Meme made a shitty ARG? huh.


Ahhh haven't been here in a while

Goes back into hiding

Ahhh haven't been here in a while

*Goes back into hiding*


0_0.more like this dude is sociopathic in behind the meme


I never believed the edgy vid series anyway


oooooh emplemon... you know that most people you come to hate are exactly that? Fool with the heart at the right place?<br>geee. Iunno what else to say but - try to be objective -

oooooh emplemon... you know that most people you come to hate are exactly that? Fool with the heart at the right place?
geee. Iunno what else to say but - try to be objective -


I already knew that hating on a nigga trying to please people with meme videos was stupid and yall drove him to a point of depresso


Must suck being a court appointed lawyer


At the end of the day, remember you are responsible, you purposely created the video knowing your fanbase would attack BTM. I think some people fail to remember that behind a YouTube channel is a human being. I honestly hope you are happy with yourself, screw being the better person let’s just go after anyone we don’t like. Also don’t distract others by criticizing his obvious suicide joke, you and a bunch of other youtubers bullied a man into insanity. Have fun sleeping at night.

@Jim Milton Saying that you're wrong doesn't mean you can keep being a jerk.

Imagine taking nonsensical images and videos on the internet so passionately where you just cancel someone.

@BilmoBlampkins I fail to see how any of this makes him a jerk, he manned up and admitted he was wrong, that’s the least jerky thing a person can do in a situation like this one was.

All things considered, how was emp supposed to know that? BTM looked like an average clickbaity cash grab channel that clearly didn’t know what they were talking about to everyone with half a brain back then. With this context now, sure it’s fucked up, but acting as if Emp is some all-knowing God that still attacked BTM while knowing that he was a genuine guy all along is just ignorant. Like you said, it’s important to remember that behind every YouTube channel is a human being, Emp is a human being too, he’s not exempt to mistakes.


idk man i think you just flipped the switch because you realised how shocking it was if behindthememe did kill himself because of hate.

your porbably gonna say this comments super dumb but it was just an idea i had while watching it its probably not true


Have you even seen his newest video explaining why?


Oh, what's this..? Do I smell... Empathy..?


Behind the meme is in a <b>DoWnWaRd SpIrAl</b>

Behind the meme is in a *DoWnWaRd SpIrAl*


EmpLemon's become f*ing buddha. Well couldn't see it coming.


This kinda reminds me of that episode of family guy where peter is labeled as “Special” and does stupid things but gets away with them because he was stupid. God I hate Family Guy anyway, good video in all honesty, I always kind of had a feeling that Ky was a good guy behind his youtube persona.


The problem is that he doesn’t understand what he is doing. I don’t think BTM is aware that he just had people on his side for the first time and he fucked it all up


Behind The Meme's channel was being hated towards the end, anyways.


is it just me or does emp like to have purple and green in some of his thumbnail


Looks like he learned this from One of the Pauls


I kinda wanna know where you get that vortex background..


The utter arrogance of you, you can't even apologize, after all the grief you brought BTM you still think you have any right to judge him.. after all the hate you commanded you think you can just commend it to stop, it doesn't work like that, you can't even say you were wrong and say you're sorry.. smh


top 10 anime plot twists

still tho nice vid lem


So for once it’s not your channel in a downward spiral


Based Emp. Great respect for anyone who can admit to a mistake.


Behind the Meme: the next Stuff with Scout Fly? Or the next Mr.Enter?????


While he may be a guy who’s trying to make educational videos, he never really sought to change anything after being criticized, he never tried to change to become better, he had opportunities and never took them. He should’ve, instead of deciding to fake shoot himself, making people angry, decided to hold the gun,  and then given the speech. Honestly, this was not well thought out on his part, and I feel he does deserve a heap of criticism.

That's true. I remember this being the reason why the tv show "The Monkees" was canceled in the 60s. The show became formulaic and the NBC executives were resistance to change the formula.

You either grow or you die.


He gets death threats, he was doxxed. I'm not saying anymore.


Honestly thought he was just a cringey person who made bad content until he released that video.<br>Edit: Listened to the whole thing and I can see where your coming from. However he’s never really tooken any tips to improve his content which would’ve directly lead to more entertaining content for his fanbase.

Honestly thought he was just a cringey person who made bad content until he released that video.
Edit: Listened to the whole thing and I can see where your coming from. However he’s never really tooken any tips to improve his content which would’ve directly lead to more entertaining content for his fanbase.


Lmao behind the meme is crazy and cool as fuck


Aw boo hoo! Let me play a sad song for ya on the world's smallest violin... 🎻


You know what I will help him rebuild his channel


Behind The Meme is dead..

Or is it? (Vsauce theme plays)


Sounds strangely reminiscent of the Dream controversy.

The internet truly never change, doesn't it?


They're shaking hands?, THEY'RE SHAKING HANDS!!!, EMP LEMON, HAS SOLD HIS SOUL!, to Behind The Meme!

still... did he actually wanted to help a community?, like, he wanted to introduce normies to memes, to help them fit (he did it in the worst way possible tough), and now, he wanted to support an ACTUAL cause?, this was a legit plot twist

as Emp said, the guy just wants to support people and help them on the wild internet world, he just doesn't seem to get it right


Don't feel bad. A lot of Clickbait Youtubers are turning around or killing their channels because of people like you. HeII I haven't had a CleanPrinceGaming or H3H3 in my recs for a month now. These guys aren't scum but the do know the con game and will do the least amount of work to pull money from people.


So... no august & september minute memes?


Johann Gaius isiNwinga Zulu Ahuitcoyotzin Hirohito


I didn't realize I have a sub for both channels until now.


Emp, my only problem with the BTM video is that Fantano stuff. It doesn’t age well.


You should do a YouTube geographic on Grade A Under A


YouTube's algorithm and the shit excuses they make for demonetization, not giving us all notifications, allowing the exploitation and manipulation of the core audience, and not giving a damn about content creators that aren't cash cows, has really made this platform a cesspool of terrible YouTubers. Ricegum, the Paul brothers, and all the prepubescent hypebeasts that watch them are willing to shower down hateful, downright disrespectful comments on people that even dare criticize them.  These people who watch Logan and Jake and Ricegum would support them no matter what shitty decisions and douchbaggery they commit, and in the end these youtubers don't learn a single thing, and go back to do more bad decisions, all for money. Nowadays, the really big Youtubers who aren't in it for money and attention are dwindling.


If you were one of those that bullied him, there really is something wrong with you if you think knowing some funny images makes you superior to others


Other YouTubers have been doing the same thing- Check out the BetterHelp controversy because it’s very interesting.


A lot of the people that watched it probably knew it was fake, the only people who commented were people who thought it was true


@0:30 omg he's gonna say downward spiral


Do you want to kill me with those rotating colours?


Only normies call people normies, real outsiders wait for the problem to be over


All he did some shitty explanation copypasta videos from wikipedia and knowyourmeme<br>Now people are treating him like he is the next logan paul or something

All he did some shitty explanation copypasta videos from wikipedia and knowyourmeme
Now people are treating him like he is the next logan paul or something


i acutely liked him bc i dont use twitter ;-;


I’m never going to forgive you. The end.


What doed he mean when he says BTMs videos are fake, the suicide prank was pretty wrong, but what about the others? Is emp reffering to the dark jokes BTM makes in his videos?

Juan Diego Torres no, he was talking about the suicide videos


I knew it was fake cuz who would  talk about 69 when their depressed


I couldn't feel bad for someone that faked depression and suicide for views.


Behind the Meme has finally been able to manipulate you.

Bold of you to assume Behind the Meme is capable of such an act


I second time I see this video... I have no words


did you get sponsored by behind the meme

its a joke FFS chill


You didn't have to ruin someone's career just because YOU didn't like his content


At the end of the day BTM is just a human. Emp lemon is a human. You are just a human and so am I.


Riding on trends, being as least offensive as possible and and not using curse words are definitely things you do to pander the algorithm. Imo he has good intentions but money is still the thing that drives him.


is this a behind the meme of behind the meme


Apparently <b>"criticism is hARasSMEnt"</b>


BTM is like a kid's YouTube channel, it may be bad to mediocre,  but let them have fun.(just as long as they dont hurt anyone)

@Quackers Encheese one made by a child or young teenager (like me)

what do you mean by a kid's youtube channel

one run by a child or one that makes spiderman and elsa child abuse insult your own parents videos


Totally forgot who this dude was until this video


THE ONLY THING THAT FOR SURE ABOUT EMPLEMON, IS NOTHING’S FOR SURE


You always seem to sway my opinion, emp!


Who else liked the video before watching it?


Can you do a minute meme on Bowzette? In fact can you do more minute memes?


I don’t feel sympathy cuz I’m just an asshole


<b>makes a meme review out of this video</b>


You probably should've said this before murdering his channel...

@abandoned channel That comment is a prime example of you making absolutely no sense

@abandoned channel Yet another stupid point. I can't understand anything you are trying to convey? How am gonna have an internet argument if the opposing member can't even argue?

@XITCIX ya sure buddy like my age matters at all when it comes to argument structure when most dont give a single damn about argument structure to begin with. Talk about that subject in school or college buddy its the internet not English class.

@abandoned channel Dude I don't even know what you are trying to argue about. If anybody is being confusing it is you. I said the channel is dead, you said he might come back as if I disagreed with that. Perhaps you are just too old to remember anything or understand argument structure.

@XITCIX well why do you care? Most people forget dead channels anyway your just being confusing for the sake of it kiddo.

@abandoned channel Yeah, he might come back, but it is still a dead channel. What is your point?

@XITCIX just because he isn't working on his dead channel doesn't mean he wont come back at some point in time it's his choice if he does it's most likely in a different channel you really shouldn't look at channels like a living thing it's not.You can make another channel for video editing as long as you have the tools and know how he ain't gone.

@abandoned channel Yeah it is crap content, but I was just saying that he's basically apologizing to a channel that is long gone, so it is kinda useless now.

@XITCIX well ya can't blame him. most find behind the meme's channel vary annoying.

@abandoned channel "it took me a year-and-a-half to realize that I was wrong" - EmpLemon's description. A year and a half after he slit the channel's throat


I didn't even understand a word of what he said.


Gotta love Youtube allowing fake suicide videos....

They didn't, the video got taken down not long after it was uploaded...


pewdiepie kills memes and nobody attacked him


Being nice instead of causing drama? On my YouTube?


Wheel and deal, was that reference to Gavlan?


N O R M I E S C A N T C O M M I T <br>N E C K R O P E

N O R M I E S C A N T C O M M I T
N E C K R O P E


God has touched him and Jesus kissed him on the lips.


I mean the guy tried bringing the history of memes for us historical lore/history nerds and to normies in a easily digestible way. I'm not saying he didn't deserve criticism..... but yeah the guy screwed up royally.


And that's how you fail to make a PSA. Good job Emplemon.

I may hate behind the meme less now but I still have no intention to watch his content due to lack of intrest


Still better than Logan Paul's "Suicide awareness" video.


Good shit bro. Always loved your vids. Great to see you're also a stand up guy!


I can’t believe this, defending Behind The Meme


Did I shit my pants, or did my pants shit me?


Behind the meme is Daily Dose of Internet
The voices match
The videos are given unnecessary information
They get views!

@Miss Kobe Yoshi He uploaded the video in 2016,but he deleted it.<br>Look at the desc.

@Miss Kobe Yoshi He uploaded the video in 2016,but he deleted it.
Look at the desc.

Daily dose of internet actually makes good content thought, he puts something in the title, you enter the video and the first clip is the thing from the title and then you are free to leave or continue to watch the video.


I just wanna know you btm cycle in a reply idk why just do it but anyway here’s mine

Like btm-emp shows me some criticism for btm- I hate btm- emu post a video redeeming btm- I like btm as a happy person that trys to help those that don’t know and is criticized for doing something that he thought he was expanding. And also doesn’t try to do things for views and money.


Emp’s all acting like he’s apart of a special devision of people who knew it was fake even though there were plenty


You had a /pol/ moment. You were right, and sometimes, you wish you weren't.

Feelsbadman.jpg


okay but is the epileptic background needed man wtf


Am I the only one who legit didn't mind Behind the meme videos? As long as he does older memes I don't see why he deserves a bunch of hate.

youre not the only one,I didn't care about the idea of "dead memes"


This video is probably made to defend emp lemon if behind the meme kills himself


the sp00kiest video title i have ever read...


I mean if it wasn’t fake and he died you’d be up shit creek without a paddle. I think the message here is that online harassment isn’t cool and fucking with them because they ruin memes to the point they get depressed isn’t cool either. Plus if he did kill himself you’d be found undoubtedly, unavoidably guilty and charged for online harassment. Up shit creek without a paddle. :/

I’m saying this because you don’t really seem to get the message that you can literally be convicted and held responsible if you push someone to kill them self. Not sure if you were aware of how the law works, but you can’t really plead innocent especially when you acknowledge the fact you inspired so much shit against some dude who just wanted to make videos. That’s a guilty plea right there and easily a decade in federal prison. I think that’s the point of BTM’s recent videos is to acknowledge that actions have consequences.


I....I never thougt about it...now I feel bad...


Actual footage of EmperorLemon starting French Revolution 2 on Internet. Can't tell if that sounds bad or good.


Seriously? Yea sure you might be Right......but he very easily could have just put up a video showing his support for people with depression. At what point would you think doing anything else is better.

that's his main point (also hello from the future) BTM was so innocent, ignorant and lacked so much self-awareness that he genuinely thought that series of videos were for a noble cause and expected no backlash despite the obvious signs of it.


"IT would seem that..."<br>No. It doesn't SEEM like he took advantage of his audience and used serious issues for attention, that's EXACTLY what he did.

"IT would seem that..."
No. It doesn't SEEM like he took advantage of his audience and used serious issues for attention, that's EXACTLY what he did.


This kinda reminds me of chris chan,but BTM isnt autistic and he actually got an apology. He was just trying to do something his way just to be misunderstood by everyone else. I do think his format doesnt fit the culture, but he was.doing what he thought was right


dude the moving background is hurting my eyes :/


Why the fuck did I never hear about this?


How noble. He ruined his reputation and only apologized because he pretended to kill himself


Hello internet and welcome to behind the meme and today we will be looking at behind the meme ok so I’ve seen a bunch of you recommending this in the comments...


He fucking said it was fake by putting skulls


I still think you guys are the same person


yall really only be realising this now lmao


kinda sad that 95% of the top comments rn are people who commented on the video a few minutes after it came out without actually watching it or giving it a chance

Grant Mitchell at the time of posting this (which was about an hour or two after the video was posted) most of the top comments in the comments section had been posted within minutes of it coming out. it wasn’t a good place to be at that time.


wow, you might be decent after all, no offense :D


Behind The Meme more like Behind The Gaye lol


I never disliked Behind-the-meme. He isn't particularly charismatic on entertaining, but he just does what he does... why does he get so much hate for that?<br>After watching your other video, I finally understood the hatred and it is sad how memes are being murdered in milliseconds nowadays. I don't think Behind-the-meme deserves hate though; he didn't know what he was doing, he just likes being able to make videos and share interests. Yes, he is lacking in a lot of knowledge, skill and showmanship, but there are many people like that on the internet.

I never disliked Behind-the-meme. He isn't particularly charismatic on entertaining, but he just does what he does... why does he get so much hate for that?
After watching your other video, I finally understood the hatred and it is sad how memes are being murdered in milliseconds nowadays. I don't think Behind-the-meme deserves hate though; he didn't know what he was doing, he just likes being able to make videos and share interests. Yes, he is lacking in a lot of knowledge, skill and showmanship, but there are many people like that on the internet.

I mean the fake suicide stunt is a bad thing thi


No the video was made to show others what there hate and cruelty put him through he is showing what else could of happened if they did this to other people.

People didn’t even care about the message he was distributing


I couldn't watch the rest of this because of the videos visuals it made me want to vomit

Well it's just filler background, you're not meant to watch it just listen.


Normies don’t know what suicide and depression are, so everything is a ok


I wish PewDiePie would go back to horror games.......you no back when he was funny


I feel like history is repeating itself somehow. Emplemon makes a video ripping on BTM, then his fans maliciously attack him, causing btm to essentially disappear and then make some disturbing and concerning videos. Then Emplemon makes a video addressing the situation. Hmmm. That kinda reminds me of the time that Leafy ripped on Tommy C in a video that caused Leafy’s fans to maliciously attack him, causing him to make an emotionally distressed video about the threats he’s receiving. Leafy then makes a video addressing the situation. Hmmm, it also reminds me when Emplemon compared his similarities to Leafy. Hmmmmmm...


YouTube won't notify me but will recommend you.


So what this video is basically saying is "He's just a baby boy! He doesn't know any better!"

I feel like btm knows too much, hes an actor tricking us all and pulling the right strings to get money


What the fuck all of a sudden I’m not getting any more notifications from emplemon. RREEEEEEEEEE


OwO 🅱 and yeah I agree. And I saw them all. Also the first video I thought was real because he was just sitting down talking. But by the second I realized it was fake.


still doesn't change the fact his actions are awful. naive or kind or not, respect has been lost, if there was any in the first place.


You have become the very thing your fan base swore to destroy(read title)

*Sir GrandPappy*
_Just stating the obvious_

Alberto C. Routwell i was using it ironically

Sir GrandPappy
one does not simply use the N-Word cause it mirrors themselves.

*Sir GrandPappy*
one does not simply use the N-Word cause it mirrors themselves.


Little did you know that behindthememe has manipulated your feelings and this was his plan all along to garner more traffic to his channel and some positive rep from someone of your high position in the meme community.

You've been played like a fiddle.


There is <b>NO defending</b> someone who fakes suicide notes and a suicide "scene" or whatever you want to call that sick idea he put into action, purely for views and attention before he leaves his dying channel.

There is *NO defending* someone who fakes suicide notes and a suicide "scene" or whatever you want to call that sick idea he put into action, purely for views and attention before he leaves his dying channel.


thx i made it myself full pic : https://twitter.com/RoboticTea/status/1046108999966502913

RoboticTea did you come from notifications?


I respectfully disagree. He was going for money, attention, and influence and is also a fool. Why did he monetize his suicide (prevention) videos?

A year ago he got a lot of heat for monetizing his tribute video to Stéfan Karl Stefánsson. I know this guy is stupid but I find it really hard to believe that he'd make that kind of mistake again all because of stupidity. No, there's definitely greed involved.

Hanlon's Razor; if you can prove he was doing it for monetary gain, tell me.


Everybody runs out of ideas exactly just just like you


BTM was a good guy. not a good good one but a bad good one. the one that does good but is bad at it. luckily there is one thing he's good at. we need him to make one last meme video...<br>bowsette needs to be dead, as dead as btm would've been if it wasn't staged.

BTM was a good guy. not a good good one but a bad good one. the one that does good but is bad at it. luckily there is one thing he's good at. we need him to make one last meme video...
bowsette needs to be dead, as dead as btm would've been if it wasn't staged.


Ik I'll get a bunch of hate I kinda feel bad for misha


BehindTheMeme sucks, how could anyone think this was a good idea?


@ConnectedR says the guy who thinks im being serious


wow, really hating for stupid memes that must die asap... yup a stupid world we live in


Wu oh he took advantage of all of those 9-year-olds.

Also, every youtube is playing Persona 5 in the background you just got to look hard enough.

Also
* Ahem *
Downward spiral
Thank me later

Also
* *Ahem* *
Downward spiral
Thank me later


This guy doesn't deserve hate. No one does.
And this is a wimpy fart near the rest of the elsa-gating, obnoxious, 30-minute long bull diarrhea we put up with on youtube daily.
BTM only got away with the mediocre meme descriptions so far because the audience AND youtube's reccomendation have standards that low.


This is so deep your Bormie Nigra<br>HAaaf


Ok but..

from a detached nihilistic perspective, what the internet did to him is hilarious.


For a person who has been battling suicide. Behind the meme fucked up on a major spectrum.

Ratmations just to see you fall for something stupid

Binski 122 then why did you need to say that

Binski 122 dont be edgy and doot a little

Thanks for the mean comment tbh. It made my day


Essentially, he didn't understand the internet... And the internet didn't understand him.


#MAKEMEMERICAGREATAGAIN! We must stick together during such split and dark times...


Then this video proofs that statement wrong


if it was satire. you should had said it was satire in the first place or atleast put a disclaimer.

You Just Freakin Destroyed His Lifepoints.


There are better ways to pass a message about how bad depression and suicide.


Behind the meme no longer uploads videos now.

Maybbe...

People can fight deppresion for months years and dont show it that happens alot


Reminds me of Logan Paul and  his awareness Video


But what about the video he iploaded an hour ago?


Attention gamers. Garfield needs your help. Make sure to give your phone number in replying to this comment. Lets grantee that Garfield gets this dub and whips plus nae naes on the default skin noobs.


wait i thought u were just making shit up and then i checked his channel lamooo


In a way I wish more people were like BTM


No, BTM is dead. He’s moving on to other stuff now. So he’s supporting the guy behind it, not the channel


This vid hurts my eyes to look at no offence it just hurts my eyes


Elvis the Alien showed your video about Leafy lol


Not only was this a shitty thing to do to BTM's fans, but it actively hurts his cause.  If anything, people are going to take suicide less seriously when they see a guy outright lie and joke about it.


Behindthememe was a normy, got hated, now he got edgy, and gets hated.


My comment was on the rant and he’s just fucking duped me and just about everyone else smh


Well on the bright side, he is a really good actor.


Hi everyone it’s me emplemon

And I’m basically done with YTP

Hi everyone it’s me emplemon

*And I’m basically done with YTP*

@Gonzalo T. wow I just came back to this comment it’s 2 years old damn I’m old😂

Somebody I get that but don’t u think he’ll have a better chance at getting more views and subs if he does it again

@Jiggy Actually, a lot his fans like these videos.

PlayerPerPerson Personal Gaming that’s his choice he chose to not take a successful path and make everyone’s day instead he’s doing content that probably half of his views click off a few secs later cuz it’s not interesting but I could be wrong

Paxton Fairbanks no no I get that but come on don’t u want a day to come home from a stressful day and laugh it off with a good ytp especially from a long time pooper he should be a big shot rn be honest tho the whole meme thing he does I get it but if u want to look up the meme and where it came from just google it at the point emplemon is doing some not-so-interesting content any more but that’s just me

Is that really a bad thing though? I thought his youtube geographic series was going pretty well. Besides, we got new and great poopers comming out of the woodwork.

Free HD McGee 😂😂you think Im one of the “pre-teens” that’s a killer I’m just stating what I think is good for his channel don’t get butt hurt cuz I made a opinion that could make his channel grow don’t like it tough shit then

Ricky V but are they funny I don’t think so

Hugh Mungus everything you just said makes it sounds so pathetic which makes me wonder do you have any actual friends anybody that you focus on besides people like me?🤔

I'd rather Emp make content he feels invested in rather than catering to the pre-teens that think Spongebob Reaction Image memes are funny.

For viewers like you. Thank you.

I'd rather Emp make content he feels invested in rather than catering to the pre-teens that think Spongebob Reaction Image memes are funny.

*For viewers like you. Thank you.*

Morshu the Sheetposter thank u my good sir

@SIDNEY P. RAGOONATH is your peroid done?


Why does this guy sound like behind the meme


The swirling background is giving me a headache


makes mediocre meme reviews
EmpLemon: N O R M I E
fakes a suicide and manipulates audience
EmpLemon: nah bro u good

makes mediocre meme reviews
EmpLemon: N O R M I E
fakes a suicide and manipulates audience
EmpLemon: *nah bro u good*

WackyClock there is no point, it's just a joke

The Emp is from 4chan, they have a thick skin when talking about giving yourself neck.


Where the fuck is meme of the month dude


He faked his suicide and depression for attention. It was never for suicide awareness.

When logan paul does a better job at sucide awareness then you somethings wrong

If he wanted to make suicide awareness he could of shown or portrayed receiving help and make prevention aware. Not this stupid edgy shit. His channel has been getting traffic because of it.


It's official...EmpLemon has gone too far down the Spiral.  Say what you want, Emp, but I'm not convinced that BTM is innocent.

V0lr

I don't really give a shit what other people say/do to him. I don't like him, but I don't bully/attack him either. I just hate him because his content is the epitome of un-researched shit content that targets the lowest common denominator.  If someone else wants to bully him that is none of my business and he should handle it himself. Instead we get what was his main attacker defending him because he thinks it's more incompetence than malice. All the more reason to dislike him imo.

Deaj

So you want others to hate him because of his content style? Wow that’s 3rd world bullying right there.


For some reason YouTube didn't notafie me about this video


He's just a normie. not a clickbaiter, or a shitposter. just a normie. innocent and bland.

Perfectly Balanced as All Things Should be


Well his series is anti bully series it’s trying to tell people how words can effect people and all of you don’t understand what’s the series trying to do and people needs to use your brain what’s the story trying to do is to stop bullying and making hate comments


So not only are you a Youtube sympathizer now, but you're a BehindTheMeme sympathizer? Good reason to unsubscribe.

Why must you agree with him in order to watch his content? You can have your own opinion while listening to someone else's.


What a self-backstab to your original BTM video. At least you are willing to change.

you have a minecraft profile pic. your opinion is void

He's never despised or hated behind the meme, and he likely still believes his content is mediocre. But that doesn't matter, you can dislike a person's work without hating the person, which is what he does.

You mean a willingness to change ones opinions based on an evolving situation and new information?


BTM is the jolliest nigga I've ever seen .

PooDoo DrillDick clearly you don’t know the meaning of jolly

Idk faking suicide and depression for manuiplating kids money for self gain isnt jolly


Top 10 why you shouldn't be on youtube anyone


Shut up. You just don't know what he's going through. He has experienced hate from some viewers. He just needs love and appreciation.

Well faking his suicide aint gonna make me love him


Wait I thought this was a April fools video but i guess not


Bro. What is with the cadence of your voice this video. You pause after every 5 syllables.


I wasn't sure if it was fake or not at the beginning, but the suicide was obviously fake.


Still not as bad as killing thr crash meme


Being stupid isn't an excuse for something like this. Not even close.


You know EmpLemon is in a downward spiral when he defends a N O R M I E

You know EmpLemon is in a *downward spiral* when he defends a *N O R M I E*

This is not a thing about normies.<br>Emblem on is just forgiving BTM and shaving his beard of hatred with Hanlon’s Razor.

This is not a thing about normies.
Emblem on is just forgiving BTM and shaving his beard of hatred with Hanlon’s Razor.


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.....well, i have some comments that need deleting...


even though i despised the “what happened to behind the meme” video i do agree with you. he was just a person trying to make people happy and informed but didn’t know how, and we hated him for that. im not saying i like kyle’s videos but he is human and we weren’t aware of his intentions at the time


Well, I really feel bad now. I always hated Behind The Meme, but now that I watched this video, made by someone like you, I actually understand. You did a good thing whenmaking this video. You had the power to makethe hate even worse, but did the opposite. And that really gives me faith


I still think it was kinda scummy for him to fake suicide, even with otherwise good intentions, but props for being the bigger man and giving him the benefit of the doubt.


It's pretty weird seeing you defend Behind the Meme but I guess in a time like this it's justified.


After seeing your spongebob video i thought, "damn emp seems a bit more wholesome and nicer." And after watching this, i feel like that's true. Real proud of what you're doing emp


I think when we are found in a situation, we should look at all points of view in that situation before we act so that we can find the best outcome or at least a better one.


I actually never thought of it that way, but you're right, behind the meme never did the stereotypical things that youtubers who only want money did


It's nice to see that the man behind the poops and the bitter vitriol for all of the things on this site...is an actual human who still has empathy and humanity, and holds faith in this ungodly insane human race.   Props to you, bud.  ♥


Right or wrong aside, this is the most empathetic and humble you've ever come off as and I'm really impressed. I'm nobody special but I just wanted to tell you, it's refreshing to get a glimpse of the person behind the mask once in a while. Thanks👍.


I've always been indifferent to btm, and the fact that he did something like that just causes me to shake my head. But unlike jake paul It seems like he might have had legitimately good intentions. But you know what they say: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I'm still indifferent towards him, but it's safe to assume that his reputation has been severely damaged by this, and the only cure is time.


Wow. Like seriously. When I first encountered your video on BTM (and in some ways fully engage with your channel besides YTPs) it was pretty saddening to know at first that the person I like to watch is actually, to put it lightly, not very good. Like I was one of the last few who decide to stick up to BTM (crazy I know) until the Crash Bandicoot meme video was released, which somehow made me unsubscribe. Looking back, I never felt that he was pandering (although his Draw My Life vid may come up that way idk). Sure, he did the whole "like and subscribe" thing and had a formula that was too repetitive, but otherwise the worst thing that he has done is not listen or apply said criticism to his videos, which applies to many of us even (personally even I get agitated when someone does not like something). Despite unsubbing to BTM, I still felt that the hate thrown at him was absurd. Like I felt kind of bad that some dude who doesn't have much nuanced understanding for a medium (in this case memes) would get hate to the point of doxxing. I don't think George Lucas (post-prequel pre-sequel era) or even Leafy in a way had many people riled up to this extent (probably the doxxing thing made me more sympathetic). So, yeah this just felt more of a personal comment than the usual I put out on, even if it is just some YouTube channel.<br>And just to wrap things up, if memory serves me correct, I remember that his Draw My Life video or at least one of his other videos mentioning that he wanted to do other content different than the meme videos he usually makes. Maybe the recent videos were one of his plans. Personally if he had done so a little sooner, maybe he could have a fresh start in his internet career as a whole. It would be interesting to see what BTM would experiment with, but alas we may never know. Maybe he could be made fun by the commentary community like the Paul brothers or maybe he could become well respected in some other area like reviews or perhaps other forms of content. I guess he felt that doing other things would make him more of a mockery than he already was, thus his hesitation to do so until recently. At the end of the day, this is just my two cents in this whole situation regarding BTM and my personal history with the drama. Its quite long and you might even disagree with what I did in some instances, but really we all will live on with some regret, whether we notice it or not. So here's to a brighter future for all involved, I guess. This comment is probably too optimistic and pandering for this video and the channel, but yeah that's all I want to write before this gets too long.

Wow. Like seriously. When I first encountered your video on BTM (and in some ways fully engage with your channel besides YTPs) it was pretty saddening to know at first that the person I like to watch is actually, to put it lightly, not very good. Like I was one of the last few who decide to stick up to BTM (crazy I know) until the Crash Bandicoot meme video was released, which somehow made me unsubscribe. Looking back, I never felt that he was pandering (although his Draw My Life vid may come up that way idk). Sure, he did the whole "like and subscribe" thing and had a formula that was too repetitive, but otherwise the worst thing that he has done is not listen or apply said criticism to his videos, which applies to many of us even (personally even I get agitated when someone does not like something). Despite unsubbing to BTM, I still felt that the hate thrown at him was absurd. Like I felt kind of bad that some dude who doesn't have much nuanced understanding for a medium (in this case memes) would get hate to the point of doxxing. I don't think George Lucas (post-prequel pre-sequel era) or even Leafy in a way had many people riled up to this extent (probably the doxxing thing made me more sympathetic). So, yeah this just felt more of a personal comment than the usual I put out on, even if it is just some YouTube channel.
And just to wrap things up, if memory serves me correct, I remember that his Draw My Life video or at least one of his other videos mentioning that he wanted to do other content different than the meme videos he usually makes. Maybe the recent videos were one of his plans. Personally if he had done so a little sooner, maybe he could have a fresh start in his internet career as a whole. It would be interesting to see what BTM would experiment with, but alas we may never know. Maybe he could be made fun by the commentary community like the Paul brothers or maybe he could become well respected in some other area like reviews or perhaps other forms of content. I guess he felt that doing other things would make him more of a mockery than he already was, thus his hesitation to do so until recently. At the end of the day, this is just my two cents in this whole situation regarding BTM and my personal history with the drama. Its quite long and you might even disagree with what I did in some instances, but really we all will live on with some regret, whether we notice it or not. So here's to a brighter future for all involved, I guess. This comment is probably too optimistic and pandering for this video and the channel, but yeah that's all I want to write before this gets too long.


I knew I'd regret feeling empathy for him.


Emplemon being a somewhat kind person? I love this


This video allowed me to sleep In peace, God bless you man, I'm being genuine


Well said Emperor Lemon.

You’re as kind as you are wise.


Part of me says that you're only saying this NOW, after getting the satisfaction of obliterating him, you feel bad. However on the other side I do understand what you mean, but the problem is that he never took constructive criticism and tried to improve his channel. I don't know..... to be honest I don't know. He's history if you ask me.


His videos were bad, there was a lot of room to improve, and his content sometimes had a bizarre aura of disingenouity, but he never striked me as a bad person. I always felt like he was getting to much shit for just being a normie. (I still hate that awful video TripleQ made mocking him) But alas, he metaphorically killed himself, so now it is time to apologize, just like when someone literally dies.<br>Well, at least you have the guts to apologize for the things that you did and consider as wrong.

His videos were bad, there was a lot of room to improve, and his content sometimes had a bizarre aura of disingenouity, but he never striked me as a bad person. I always felt like he was getting to much shit for just being a normie. (I still hate that awful video TripleQ made mocking him) But alas, he metaphorically killed himself, so now it is time to apologize, just like when someone literally dies.
Well, at least you have the guts to apologize for the things that you did and consider as wrong.


Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence


Too  long, didn't watch.

But seriously, good for you Emps, empathy is something sorely needed in modernity.


Funny how wholesome this channel has been lately


"Friendship ended with INTERNET HISTORIAN
BEHIND THE MEME is now my best friend"
-Lemony Boi 2k18


I'm not gonna go shit on this guy's channel; I still think what he did was in an utmost disregard for the respect of others, and, need I say, an utmost disregard for his own credibility. I simply have difficulty sympathizing with this man at this point, even if his intentions weren't in a place of immorality.


Not shure if it is mob mentality or I just end up agreeing with everything you say


We should help the guy out. He only normified others because he didn't know any other way. Let's teach him how to meme properly. Maybe then, an age of outsiders can return.

GAMP: Sicker than your average kigger nilller


i wasn't even aware af this , but honestly i think he just genuinely didn't know how to do this, and this is the result


I can't decide if BTM's "PC Edit" makes me agree or disagree with Emp. It's such a trite thing to cry political correctness when people are actually pissed at something.


Alpharad is a guy who acts overly disengenuous to make you know that he is and will tell you that he is being so


I don't get why people have to do cryptic videos that are "about" suicide awareness where they do things that are misinterpreted very easily. How hard is it to sit down, set up a camera and just talk about it.


You've gone soft on us, Emp. lol
But no really, I wasn't even on the hate BehindTheMeme bandwagon (nor did I like him) but even if BTM is a clueless dope with a good heart, I'm not happy with what  he did.
He's an adult, he should know better than to do this.  The only thing this is gonna bring awareness to, is him and he knew that, clueless or not, he knew in the back of his mind.

He had a lot of people worried about his well being just for some regurgitated PSA bullshit on what people say on the internet can effect others and about changing his channel and what he does on it. I feel as though the SuICidE aWaREneSs was just tacked on at the end, because of the subject matter, whether that's the case or not, will not change my mind. If you want to talk about suicide, TALK ABOUT IT; you don't need to manipulate people to draw attention to such a serious subject, especially now that everyone and grandmothers pet cat is such an "expert" on mental illness. We don't need to hate on him but, let him know, this is not ok.

Do I think he meant to be scummy like this?  Should he get a free pass cause of that?
                                                                        \      /
                                                                          No.


i dont really sympathise with him even after watching him to be honest. like what still puts me off is the way he took criticism, calling  everyone haters, the video on anthony fantano etc. it seems to me more that he did make videos for people to enjoy, but if they didn't instead of him trying to get better he just defined it all as hate towards poor him


5:18 Who can blame you for feeling that way, we've all seen it before, there are scummy youtubers out there. Content Cop helped us to see that. Are all youtubers like that? All I can say is I'm not sure.


Like do people not even look up his history on the internet and get enough information to know that this is how behind the meme works? Well whatever the internet for the most part just don't seem to think ahead.


What have we done? For this situation, I have realized that this is no wrong to be normie.


Lol, the tables have turned. In a way, EmpLemon took advantage of BehindTheMeme and inadvertently caused him to suffer a downward spiral.


Assume incompetance before malevolence its a good rule to follow


He had a continuous lapse in his judgement, and he's sorry.


No forgiveness for a man who misses with another man's memes


I would so far agree with you, BTM definitely did fuck up his attempt to "raise awareness". Hind site is 20/20, and we can all look at the BTM videos were fake now. I had always somewhat defended BTM, even as his part 5 was uploaded. I just considered him to be extremely misguided, and not very bright. I thought that his content, while not very good, was technically harmless.

Behind the Meme, while making bad content, made "genuine" content. He seems like he has potential in acting, so I hope that Kyle sheds his BTM shell and becomes successful doing something else. Something that helps the guy grow his talents, and something that won't piss of the maymay community.

I just say one thing that I don't "think" you covered (keeping in mind that I am quite clueless and miss shit easily), and that's his final video. His final video, that I think does a better job raising awareness than the 1-5 series. Maybe you'd already made this by the time it came out. But yeah, in it he does apologise for making people worried, explains that it was intended to raise awareness and not gain sympathy points. I would also say that it's irrelevant to your point that the guy just isn't very bright.

Godspeed you magnificent bastard, Kyle. And Godspeed Behind the Meme, you were always behind on the memes.


As misguided as this guy might have been I don't think that he deserves the shit that he got and is getting. As he said we're all people, and no one deserves this over fucking memes of all things.


your always gonna be a youtuber i look up to.


Guess all of the hate we had for him is now 100 percent justified.


Maybe I'm foolish
Maybe I'm blind
Thinking I can see through this
And see what's behind
Got no way to prove it
So maybe I'm blind
But I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put your blame on me
Don't put your blame on me


Over 5,000 likes and only 76 dislikes......

I think you’re getting your point across Emp, good job!


I always felt somewhat bad  for him cause he was just doing his thing. He got way too over his head. He made enemies with many people. Only to not know how to handle it and fight it other than learning from it. Now this stuff. I would just think he wants to reach his former glory and legit feels very bad about the past  (which is rare). So he wants to go to alternatives to appeal to people. So i dunno. I just stopped watching his stuff a year or 2 back. Only time will tell what he do now.


I didnt realised that you were so cynical mostly because you thought that he was being disingenuous from the beginning(besides of the poor quality of his content).

From the way that he behaved nothing ever made me think that he was being a manipulator,he is just a genuine guy.

Its cool that you are doing this,specially having this much influence over “his haters”(at least I didn’t see many comments disagreeing with you).

Well done


"And lo, such was the God King's might, such was his just heart, that in the ultimate moment of victory over his most hated enemy, formed exactly as he saw fit, he withheld his blade and offered instead a hand of mercy."

Shitfuckers 19:90


Speaking of depression.... What's with all of these big name youtubers making videos about them being depressed whilst shilling out a bogus depression treatment service?


What if Behind the Meme makes a video saying "I knew EmpLemon would feel sympathetic."?


emp, it would be cool if you did a series called "Emplemon: Youtuber Philanthropist", where you would interview and give advice to YouTubers that are struggling to get them and their channel back on their feet, like a reverse content cop.<br>Who knows? Maybe you could have Leafy himself on the show.

emp, it would be cool if you did a series called "Emplemon: Youtuber Philanthropist", where you would interview and give advice to YouTubers that are struggling to get them and their channel back on their feet, like a reverse content cop.
Who knows? Maybe you could have Leafy himself on the show.


Emp. I love ya, but...This ain't it, chief.

I just can't bring myself to believe that he had no idea whatsoever that he'd make people angry with this completely tactless stunt. I honestly think he wanted to stir the shit. No such thing as bad publicity, after all. Same shit scumbags like Onision and Logan Paul do all the time. As someone who's not only been suicidal, but has had people pretend to be suicidal to me for the sake of "JUST A PRANK BRO," I can't let his shit slide. He made his bed.


I think he started the sad vids seriously. then once he got support, he wanted a way to go back to normal meme vids


He monetised the video tho. His objective wasn't just raising awareness


This decade is a continuous downward spiral. Literally.


Damn. Raising awareness for suicide awareness is . DEEP. HAters gonna hate 🤣🔫


the videos were a show of how he feel when we was on youtube, if he has felt that way, then its not fake


Dude really shot himself

in the foot with this one


Whether how he got into the influencial position, his content's still a total horseshit. He desereve no respect or sympathy whatsoever.


Great video dude. Just subscribed to BehindTheMeme 😊😊


The suicide video really was poorly <b>excecuted</b>

The suicide video really was poorly *excecuted*


Emperor Lemon has a heart? Looks like his life has taken an upward spiral.


That downward spiral in the background causes my eyes to bleed.


I think we should get BTM a second chance.

Also I think it would benefit us all if we lend him a hand instead of attacking him.


You are right. I never thought of it like that!


I never really hated BTM. Sure, I hated his content and what he was doing, but I never hated him as a person.


Honestly I don't why someone would make multiple cryptic videos and end those videos off with a youtuber faking themselves dying. Of course they're gonna make their fans extremely worried and end up with major backlash from people. Even if they did it to try and send a message there are many other options for a topic like suicide awareness.


Lmao, "Don't attribute to malice what you can explain with stupidity."


Behind The Meme May have a good heart, but he is very naive and lazy


Behind the meme was claimed by the final boss of youtube, The downward spiral.


Showing that having depression gets you attention like this is harming to people like me. My Depression is the least of my problems. He sounds like an immature person. Hope he doesn't get too much shit.


I’m just kinda confused by this whole situation and I don’t understand how it got to this point. Like his fans are defending him to some crazy degree where I saw someone in his comments claim people were criticizing him because they were ‘reflecting themselves’ and made the dumb ‘they’re just jealous and insecure’ excuse. They think he’s helping people somehow and it’s just odd to me. Btm doesn’t help people, he just made awful videos and never improved his editing style. How did this person get such defensive fans or is he deleting comments again?? I really don’t understand this


Don't call it a grave, it's the future he chose.


I think your right honestly he does seem different


Idk, I can feel bad for the guy and what he went through, but a lot of the stuff he said was just kinda dumb. Most people that shit over him didn’t want him to kill himself, they wanted him to stop ripping out videos from KnowYourMeme and make better content.


If you want to spread suicide awareness, talk about your experiences or have other talk on their experiences and offer ways of help or coping mechanisms. Not this attention grabbing bs, it's horribly disingenuous


Don't attribute to malice what can be better attributed to incompetence.


In a nutshell: BTM is so dumb emplemon feels bad for him


First off I feel like you were paid to say all of this because honestly seems kind of odd how you say nobody helped him and the fact he was in contact with members of the meme community because if you put logical events in order he was killing memes and he did it just to prove that he can and that he should ruin the fun of the internet. Thing is he is doing fine off his second account, Daily dose of Internet. He is making bank I knew he would fake the suicide for views that was his middle finger to his own fanbase. the fact you defend him even when he has a Jake Paul format of fucked up videos seems like you had to have been paid. And I know damn well you aren't one to talk of being humane enough to see his side of things because as far as I can see he is doing just dandy with the income he gets off his second account. Anyone that kills fun intentionally will eventually get stopped. End of story unless you are getting paid large amounts of money then keep it alive.


Calling it now it was a meme the whole time


I think there should be an epilepsy warning. This video tackles a very serious issue, and with a serious tone. Something I don’t get is how you can make a serious video on spongebob.


fucking agreed, im so glad you stopped attacking him


The most human among us is a human shitpost. Let that sink in.


Emp getting sympathy?....UPWARD SPIRAL?!


i dont think its right of you to talk EmpLemon, afterall, you yourself have been in a downward spiral mentally for years


Depression ain’t a joke man, it’s a life eating disease.


EmpLemon the kinda guy to shoot a robber and then call him an ambulance


Its nice your trying to help him, but i fear it wont work since no one likes positive. Though id like to be proven wrong, reply (if you even remember ) that this got more views then your rant vid, or dont


I respect this. Therefore, I won't try to bad touch you.


I’m gonna look at these videos before I come to any conclusion


Now I'm just waiting for the "Jimmy Kimmel isn't bad" video


this is the first I've heard of this drama, i wonder if those videos are still up 👀👀👀


It feels like he was not trying to let on he was really depress but the btm hate train wanted one last go around the track.


This is wrong, your video is suppose to be 20-100 mins long while other people complain about it.


SHAKIGN AND CRYING EMPLEMON WOULD NEVER DEFEND BTM PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISNT REAL PLEA


ohhhhhhhh....... he's disabled. that makes sense


Dude cryed wolf and did more harm than good.


Behind The Meme is like a clown that tries his best to make people laugh, but ends up being annoying and unfunny, then proceeds to fuck everything up.


At least he didn't try using a real scuicide victims corpses... And joke about it


Even if he did have good intentions, but he should have thought about how people would have reacted to the videos in the end. You don't fuck around with suicide like that. You don't fuck around with shootings like that. A joke here or there is fine, but a full on series that actually made people think he was going off the rails is not okay. Ruining meme culture is one thing, but this is a whole other level. I don't hate him with a seething rage, but I completely understand why others do.


Nice one. Insulting him but saying not to hate him at the end of the video. Yeah I’m not buying it.


Expect your sub count to be halved soon.<br>I'll still be part of that sub count tho

Expect your sub count to be halved soon.
I'll still be part of that sub count tho


How is his audience mostly young children?


This really the Berestain dimension after all


Showing a depressed person killing himself (without telling is a fake persona first) isn't a commentary on suicide awareness...

It's like showing a fat person and saying it's a commentary on eating healthy and the state of our human condition


Its cool you defend him. But there is no reason to defend behind the meme

I personally don't enjoy his channel, but Jesus, people.. Call off your nukes already.

There's not much of a reason for BTM anymore... Memes are less niche than ever

greenXeagle there is a reason to hold back the hatred. The level of hate this guy is getting makes you think he committed murder or something. Its completely uncalled for. He deserves hate, but not on such a level that we see.


emplemon and Behindthememe would be cute gay couple you are perfect for echother


But EmpLemon, april 1st is 6 months from now.


Is this the deepest site of the Downward Spiral? 🌀


Eh my friends fake suicide all the time, except when they dont and i forgot who they are because they change their username to a bunch of random characters and make their pfp black


I still blame emp for killing the channel by getting triggered that he got youtube poops wrong.


Boy if behind the meme nowmakes dumb respons to emps. video i legit god damn it emp... you are the best


I believed he was depressed, but I knew he wasn't gonna kill himself. How would he even upload it? He would have to livestream it or something.


You gotta calm down with that swirly background bud


Behind the meme: I killed myself bang

Logan Paul want to know your location

Behind the meme: I killed myself *bang*

Logan Paul want to know your location


This is so sad can we kill behind the meme


IDK, ripping off suicide is not how you raise awarenes if you ask me.


At least he didn't try using a real scuicide victims corpses... And joke about it


Its funny how the only guy on Youtube who only had good intentions, who didnt make videos for attention and money, and had a genuine innocent and kind hearted soul is the most hated and malined person on the internet. My god...

Well fair enough but he did make it out as Emplemon endorsed him being doxxed. I still dislike him but I'll choose to simply distance myself from his channel.

@Lisa M At the end, poor fellow. The world just didn't accept him as part of the Internet ecosystem.

@ivanmegafanboy The more I think about it, the more I think that he may have started these videos as a way to try and understand internet culture. He sees a popular meme on 4chan, and in an attempt to understand it, he does research on it, then makes the video in an attempt to help others get it as well, let them "be in on the joke". Everyone learns things in a different way, maybe this was his. Maybe he did try the suggestions he got and found that it didn't work for him as well as his way did. This is all speculation of course, but it's something to consider, at least.

While I agree that his suicide video was in poor taste, he wasn't trying to push merch and views like a certain idiot that many more have mentioned already. Coming from someone that has attempted suicide in the past, I still didn't see this as a reason to hate on the guy. As horrible as it was,  I didn't get the impression that it was done with malice. To be fair, he's FAR from the first person to do this. There are countless shorts that do almost the exact same thing. The difference is that BTM failed to mention that this was all fictional.

@Lisa M Yes, if you don't want to obligue to every piece of critiscism you get, construcive or destructive, that is not inherently bad, and bringing that as a flaw can feel very tacky.

@ivanmegafanboy Yeah, I was thinking the same every time someone mentioned that. At least BTM didn't start screeching about how "haters" are coming after him.

@PipeGuy64Bit Please, almost nobody does that on Youtube.

He is still a fool for not following criticism on how to improve his content.

Choo ohhh there are some pretty hated people on the internet, Behind the Meme gets more hate then he deserves, sure, but have you heard of the Paul brothers?


Is that a

Downwardspiraldownwardspiraldownwardspiral


explain the poorly made anthony fantano response video


When did youtube stop being youtube, for example youtube gaming, youtube kids, youtube whatever I mean what's wrong with normal youtube. Another one I could think of is the new premium subscription feature aka the "join" button again what's wrong with the normal subscriptions, the live streaming is another one I could think of, it's not twitch but sure is trying to be twitch and the emotes that comes with it. I guess I could chalked it up as business is money and money is business. Youtube is trying to become something else like many software applications I know.


Now behind the memes will hit 10mil subs on his channel tomorrow

Phantom of the trumpera excuse me you wanna talk to my boy deathstalker rexxar?

Angry Chicken <b>Angry Nerd Voice</b> you’re not even in the current meta skrub

Angry Chicken *Angry Nerd Voice* you’re not even in the current meta skrub


He copied everything off if know your meme


He made a fake suicide video for attention, who the hell cares? He's literally about to cry because of a bunch of kids who call him stupid


When are you gonna be making YouTube poop videos again?


Tbh he is not getting that much hate mate.


I don't think you should say thing's  like that  you have been making memes for year's  and behind  the meme can't just pop up make these really below average videos and get 798k subs with no consequences that's not fair his channel needs to die


oh nooooo, he diiiiid a thiiiiiiiiiiiiing!

Yes. He jizzed and ended up hitting his face instead. whoops.


Bruh I said it first why you got 9 likes


I thought that channel died along with the knuckles thing what in the fuck


It's not even funny anymore. This is just sad.


Actually I did a bombing campaign against him and now that u said about him I feel a little bit sad for him and I am not saying that for attention I just Honestly think that those vids are insulting to people who are actually suffering well now I guess he is just naive person and now I feel sad


<b>Do not support Behind The Meme. Continue to take him down so this doesnt happen again</b>

*Do not support Behind The Meme. Continue to take him down so this doesnt happen again*

THE GREATEST HIGH

No just no stop. Leave the guy alone

@The Very Edgy Yoshi OwO got room for one more?


Behind the memes worst choice was making the behind the meme utube channel


This video is fake, i'm calling it now...


Just because you inspire people to do things, you are not responsible for their actions.

@Under Story Main channel he didn’t send hate tho. that was their own accord.

@Under Story Main channel no Hitler directly told his followers to raid Jewish business (just one example). And no main stream person told there viewers to harass BTM.

@Rancid and it's still a horrible analogy since we'll just look at cancel culture. One guys says (insert person here) is bad so everyone just goes with him and harrased that guy even if he may not be bad.<br>Secondly hitler inspired the nazis to commit the holocaust and made people become nazis. He was very responsible for their change. He however didn't make their decision,they did. But it's still Hitler's fault for causing that change in them

@Rancid and it's still a horrible analogy since we'll just look at cancel culture. One guys says (insert person here) is bad so everyone just goes with him and harrased that guy even if he may not be bad.
Secondly hitler inspired the nazis to commit the holocaust and made people become nazis. He was very responsible for their change. He however didn't make their decision,they did. But it's still Hitler's fault for causing that change in them

@Under Story Main channel the difference from my analogy and real life is I replaced (doxxing and threats) with murder. I also replaced the people in the story with us.

@Under Story Main channel if you were to give a speech about how bad this YouTuber was. After that speech I murder him, then claimed I did it because of your speech. That does not make you responsible for his death.

So Hitler's not responsible for neo nazis


Intent doesn't mean shit.
If you fake your own suicide you're a shitty person.
In the back of his mind he had to have thought that this would get him positive feedback and subscribers.
Even if it wasn't the main motivation, at least part of the reason he pretend killed himself was for attention.


You should do a video on Wolfychu, because it would be funny to see the same thing that happened to Behind The Meme happen to WolfyChu as well.


I guess thats what happens when u get so much hate to the fact that ur having to fake suicide. Its the community's fault for hating him on memes. You guys doxxed him. How do u think he feels. You guys seriously fucked him up. Yeah u DID LITERALLY RUIN BTM. WTH IS WRONG WITH UR TITLE. IS DEFENSE HUH? I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS

Edit : just thought of the things he could've done instead of fake suicide. I don't think he deserved all the hate. His vids were kinda bland and his voice was unreasonably optimistic sure, but I don't think he really deserved to be doxxed because of memes. But the hate after his fake suicide was kinda deserved. Soo now Im kinda happy of this vid.

@PrKo that's true. He could've just ignored the hate and continued to make normies happy

I'll admit the hate was too far, but there were so much better routes he could've taken than to fake his suicide 😐


Is this a leafy/youtube drama parody?  You sound like the kid you made a fifty one minute video about.


His videos suck but he's not hurting anyone


Let’s hope this video gets more likes than dislikes


This definitely does put out a different perspective on the entire controversy surrounding BTM, and it's probably true that BTM's true intentions aren't as scummy as some people seem to think they are. I think the best approach is to give a decent amount of thoughts to both ends of this spectrum. Yes, his content is bad, and even spreads misinformation at times, but behind every internet persona is a real person. Just because they put out a bad image doesn't mean they ever had the intention doing any harm, that's just not how the majority of people are. And I don't think enough people take that into consideration. The same can be applied to many people with large hate following, honestly. Thank you for putting out this video. I hope it can get the message through to people with a mindset only set on vilifying people they dislike.


Despite his bad content, if he is really having these feelings I hope he gets the help he needs.


It’s very noble of you to stand up for him even after all that you two went through, my absolute respect for you lemon.


Not only he did that to spread a suicide message but also he did that to tell us that Behind The Meme is "dead," but Kyle Bryce (Who is behind that channel) isn't dead.


There’s a point where you have to question reality and it is now when Emp defends BTM, even after all of the shit BTM has done. Kind of awe inspiring.


Emplemon: throws Behind the Meme under the bus and makes a meme review series just to spite them

Emplemon: Wait no

Emplemon: *throws Behind the Meme under the bus and makes a meme review series just to spite them*

Emplemon: Wait no


For a while I wasn't sure what kind of person you were, Emp, but after hearing the way you handled this incident, I genuinely believe you're a good person and you've won my respect

Uh, I mean, D O W N W A R D S P I R A L

For a while I wasn't sure what kind of person you were, Emp, but after hearing the way you handled this incident, I genuinely believe you're a good person and you've won my respect

Uh, I mean, *D O W N W A R D S P I R A L*


I always try to remove the crime from the intent. He made some incredibly incompetent meta videos. He blurred the line between his fictional storyline of a suicidal btm, and what his audience perceives as reality. That’s the crime. I don’t hate him for it, but this is on no one’s shoulders other than his own. He dug his own grave.


Good on ya Emp for making this video when you by all means didn't have to. It shows that you really are a critical guy, to others and yourself. You always see apology videos when someone is caught out doing something wrong but this kind of discussion video about the possibility of being wrong is in my opinion the real deal. Having that discussion about the different factors at play and acknowledging how things may in fact be different/wrong takes some serious balls, so kudos to you.


I've been getting sick of all these commentary youtubers just blindly hating everything so it's good to see one who doesn't think everyone is evil incarnate.


I can't hear EmpLemon seriously say "enough is enough" without grinning at the thought of Samuel Fucking Jackson yelling the phrase.  Thanks a lot, LemonBoi!


Wow, you really owned up to some bitterness and you defended a really hated channel.

Mad kudos to you, EmpLemon. This is many reasons as to why you are indeed the YouTuber we need but don't desevre


Let's all talk about the fact that emplemons and behind the memes voices sound way too similar


I remember something about the series of videos that BTM was releasing individually that made me somewhat ashamed of myself for carrying such hatred towards him. As I watched his 2nd video, I noticed the wall of people he really was into at the time and noticed people like Mick Jagger, Paul Rubens (Peewee Herman) and John Mayer and it was that moment when I realized that BTM sounded like a cool guy to hang around and then a wave of shame and  anger towards myself for hating him for a whole year.
Personally I feel sorry for BTM and he has earned my subscription.
Thank you Emp


At the end of the day, we're all human, no matter what we do.


Apart from only a few YouTubers (you can most likely make a few) everyone on this site is human, and makes mistakes, and makes bad decisions. Sure, what he did is wrong, but hey, he can always improve. And just a reminder, don't hate the YouTuber, just dislike the content that they make.


I feel like ignorance shouldn't be an excuse for someone to get away with something.