I honestly though Crysalis as a human could be a cosplayer, or someone who likes to do costumes and disguises, like Tsumugi Shirogane from Danganronpa

@Niko OwO Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant

@Niko OwO Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant

@Number 3 what is that supposed to mean?

@Number 3 what is that supposed to mean?

@me sawtooth is so sweet and a cutie pie.

@me sawtooth is so sweet and a cutie pie.

But also- there’s already Crystal Prep and Canterlot High- and when you think about it…nearly all the Equestrian authorities in the human world are principals of their own school- so Sawtooth might be onto something there, I think there is a third school, so I support this theory

Thorax is chrysalis's good for nothing son who rejected her.

Thorax is chrysalis's good for nothing son who rejected her.

Chrysalis is so beautiful and sombra is so handsome.

Chrysalis is so beautiful and sombra is so handsome.

Because pharynx was not there when sucked all out of thorax  meaning he was from the hive at that time.

Because chrysalis was more close to thorax than pharynx ever was.

Changeling Chrysalis doing a Gonta cosplay. Yes. I will stand by this theory

But they are probably vampires does it’s because they have the same abilities as them and they can probably also change into bad in the pony world

No this is that chrysalis open a school before she didn’t exist

No this is that chrysalis open a school before she didn’t exist

Chrysalis is just a clout-chasing cosplayer who has simps who wanna look exactly like her, but then one of her followers exposes her on Twitter and then she’s barely spoken of again. Oh, she also has an ant farm or something

Ah! 😭 👁  👄  👁 👂

Ah! 😭 👁  👄  👁 👂

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@Blue Spring i mean it fits with her personality so why not

@Blue Spring i mean it fits with her personality so why not

@Samuel Trusik So she's the dangerous woman trope?

@Samuel Trusik So she's the dangerous woman trope?

@Sawtooth Waves not that innocent if you look at who niko OwO used as an example..............(ps:danganronpa is a game about teens trapped in a killing game)

@Sawtooth Waves I hope flutters bites me. Wampires are awesome then boring werewolves. 🧛♂

First of all respect for the Danganronpa reference but I feel like she would be some sort of actor

@Samuel Trusik  I agree. When Chrysalis possesses shining armor, takes his love and ruins their wedding it kind of shows that she could cause break ups and cheating in the human world.

I found a dangonronpa fan I repeat I found a dangonronpa fan . You are officially cool.

What if we did see human Crysalis already, but didn't realize it because she was operating under an alias? This Crysalis being the head Principal of Crystal Prep.... (Would make some seance that she would have ties to Candace given her introduction....)

I love this idea. If there was no magic in the human world and the human world was just truly normal

I have a theory where Chrysalis is Cinch and changelings in human world are just like the humans, but if they go through the mirror/structure, they transform into changelings.

@Sawtooth Waves "innocent" yeah like Tsumugi is "innocent"

@Sawtooth Waves "innocent" yeah like Tsumugi is "innocent"

@Sawtooth Waves ehm ehm when you make remake video about flass sentry

@thelemoncoffee

Tsumugi cosplaying Chrysi.

@thelemoncoffee

Tsumugi cosplaying Chrysi.

She could be a cosplayer then her fans could be her changelings aka them being probably cosplayers too but then she does something awful and her fans turn on her and do something with their life

@🌺Cherry Mocha🌺 I am with you there but I think the idea for a very gentle but firm principal being a vampire that would make some sense because in equestria the vampire bats in bit fluttershy

I just realized I accidentally posted this on the thread when I meant to put in the general comments

Flip you slippery mobile fingers

@Sawtooth Waves I would see chrysalis as like a gentle but very firm principal with her punishments raising in severity based on the disrespectful behavior displayed in her school so like level 1 some light teasing of her other students that would just be a minor scolding nothing too major but if they go up and up and up towards level 5+ that would be a very heavy stern lecture possible expulsion and even at the absolute worst possible scenario her students blood being sucked completely dry and she would not care about the death of a student she has several thousand students in her school so WHATS one student being gone she will have 8,000 more students some schools can have up to 1,000 students easily but in places like Denver Colorado or New York they are much bigger in size than  Craig Colorado so 8,000 students in chrysalis’s own school wouldn’t be that far of a stretch in my honest opinion

@🌺Cherry Mocha🌺 I like that idea a lot too!

@🌺Cherry Mocha🌺 I like that idea a lot too!

I love the theories here but I also thought maybe Chrysalis would be the queen of her own country/kingdom with changlings,which could be struggling economically bc of her bad rulling, one of the citizens, Thorax, expose a better way to live and take over as the king. Its kinda simple and I didnt rlly think it through yet but if it works it works

Still like the vampire idea though-

I also just though that she could have an especial episode where she becomes more powerful with some kind of equestrian artifact that lets her look exactly like other people….. time to draw

i think chrysalis is more like a shapeshifter who uses equestrias powers to shapeshift

@Niko OwO I was actually just thinking that

@Niko OwO I was actually just thinking that

@bowlwasprobablytaken HELL FUCKING NOOOOO

@bowlwasprobablytaken HELL FUCKING NOOOOO

@thelemoncoffee I’m drawing chrysalis making a cos of Sonia Nevemind, because she wants to be a queen/princess like her

never thought i'd see Danganronpa mentioned in a mlp comment section, but i'm totally on board with this idea. Tsumugi Chrysalis ftw

@Nazi zaidi She could be toxic and possessive over her fans online, maybe even doing disguises for criminals

But there is one prolem eqestrian crisylis is evil so human word crisylis be evil to

@Sawtooth Waves Sounds plausible, but I think she would be a very... hm, how do I say this... LOVELY woman who spends a lot of time ensnaring people with her looks ,seductive personality and body, only to leave them drained and depressed after she left them. A prostitude basically. This would explain a LOT: Why she would have so many children, how she would suck love out of people, why she would be such a manipulator and trickster, and all that! I imagine Thorax would be one of her sons who wouldn`t approve of how the family is run with her in charge, and so he would seperate himself from her.

Like so Sawtooth will see!

I also just though, what if thorax decided to expose her and then all her followers decided to follow thorax

this theory is actually kinda funny like imagine chrysalis being a tiktok cosplayer😰

@Sawtooth Waves yeah maybe the changling colony could be her followers

i love this one cause it's a lot more innocent than the other ideas. i bet she does it for attention (love) on the internet too.


My first assumption was that this video was going to be analyzing the possibility that human Crysalis would have been a cult leader lmfao

@mcdonalds worker klee sawtooth is so cute I just want to hug him.

That actually kind of makes sense. She runs a cult and she makes her subjects dress the same and act the same just for her purposes and instead of feeding off from love she and her subjects feed off all of the people around the world and make them join her cult

@Sawtooth Waves Ooo, a Livestreaming Changeling Vtuber, plenty of growth potential there, logistically speaking...

@Sawtooth Waves I thought that a reasonable(ish) explanation for EqG Chrysalis is that she's an Artificial General Intelligence Server Farm, and the changelings are her autonomous drones. The disguise factor is that she's a Vtuber internet personality...

Speaking of Vtubers, I've been in and out of the pony fandom for... a few years now; do we have a Brony/Pegasister Vtuber yet? I'm sure we have the numbers to make the leap if Nux Taku did...

@Sawtooth Waves that theory of the human queen chrysalis and the human changelings being vampires was awesome

Human Chrysalis could be some kind of underground crime boss, and the changelings could be her followers. She could be just as manipulative as her Equestrian counterpart, and is a master of disguise; that's how she always escaped. Thorax and the others could be followers, with Thorax leaving the group to find true friendship, and Pharynx could even be second in command, to mirror his protective nature towards the other changelings.

I don't know how the Love eating could be made, though. But then again, Celestia, Luna, and Cadance don't have magical powers, so that might not even be a thing

I literally just thought of this when I clicked the video XDDD

CULT LEADER CHRYSALIS CULT LEADER CHRYSALIS CULT LEADER CHRYSALIS

Does that mean thorax took over the cult? And made it a less violent version of the midsommar cult?

Yeah I thought this too 😅 if she is/was a cult leader, she could have her followers look the same and dress the same. She could also try to overthrow what is the human government or monarchy or anyone who is in charge honestly. And that's when the human Mane 6 can come in to stop them. It ties to the MLP universe and they can disguse to blend in with the crowd, if they're already known. In the 1st EqG movie, Rarity did put a disguse on Twilight, saying that nobody would recognise her, so the concept of disguses are a thing in the EgQ universe

Also great idea I mean the changlings we’re kind of a cult in the equstria so it would probably be the best guess

@ВоIugа 🅥 is this a rickroll or just a bot


I feel like chrysalis would be maybe a make up artist or a costume designer and she would have the ability to change herself into different people with her talents and ability’s and the various models and students she has to teach would be her very own personal changelings

She had no idea. She just want to apologize to him.

And thorax took them away from her. She just wanted the best for him.

She lost her home her children and her entire world. Thorax has it no and she has nothing left.

The other changeling never liked her talent for magic It was the only thing that she was truly good unlike her goody goody drone thorax who could do definitely no wrong.


I would have thought human Chrystalis would be an actress, and all of the other changeling are, like, her devoted fans, or something. It would fit with the form changing, at least, and there are definitely plenty of manipulative, controlling, and ruthless actors out there

Maybe she got around a lot as an actress and that's where the changelings come in

That and the parent/child dynamic has been seen in fandoms before so that could work really well.


If human Chrysalis was the leader of a cult or gang, i could totally picture her kinda looking like a female mob boss or something.


Can you do Human Tirek next? I think his story would rather compelling in the human world. However, talking about dear old Queen Chrysalis, more than a principal, I think she would actually be the boss of a gang of thieves, to be more in line with her personality. That way, Thorax could simply be the guy who gave the changelings an example of a better way of living, a way that doesn't require them stealing stuff from others using their disguises, allowing them to show their true colors

I think I have the answer to your Human tirek Question!


I agree most with the vampire theory, though them being able to transform would take magic. If ponies enter the portal and lose all their magic, why do changelings have magic in the human world?<br>Another theory is as a human she practices polyandry and actually has a lot of children, maybe she could be in a world record book in the human world for having a lot of children? And Thorax, one of her children, could've left his family because he didn't support his mother's polyandric practices. But he probably did not take over the family either.

I agree most with the vampire theory, though them being able to transform would take magic. If ponies enter the portal and lose all their magic, why do changelings have magic in the human world?
Another theory is as a human she practices polyandry and actually has a lot of children, maybe she could be in a world record book in the human world for having a lot of children? And Thorax, one of her children, could've left his family because he didn't support his mother's polyandric practices. But he probably did not take over the family either.

@MrNobody you I see thorax I don't need you.

Polyandry wouldn't increase human!Chrysalis's reproductive abilities by much.  It's still her body that needs to be impregnated, and women can only handle a certain number of pregnancies in their lives.  It's possible for a man to have a massive number of children by impregnating multiple women, but women can't pull off the same feet.

@Rosethz I totally see what you are going for mate

And if the vampire theory were not true Flutterbat could never have happened in the human world. It could probably just have been referenced as a halloween costume Fluttershy wears to a future halloween party, who knows?


Count vampire Chrysalis is something I’ve never known how much I needed til now

We haven't seen anypony eat garlic in the show and the mirror isn't that common either unless they are dressing up or something.

Countess <del>Coloratura</del> Chrysalis Von Mutatio

Countess -Coloratura- Chrysalis Von Mutatio


I could definitely see human Chrysalis running an orphanage of sorts, being a sort of Ms. Hannigan type of character. Eventually, one of the older kids in the orphanage, Thorax, uprises against Chrysalis's ways and ends up taking over the orphanage, running it in a much better way than Chrysalis ever did


What if she was a world leader, of a group nobody liked. She probably thought a good tactic was getting to the young people to change them to her ways and tried to take over Canterlot high, acting as Cadence. After friendly vice principal Cadence finds out she takes down the whole operation. One of Chrysalis's loyal workers decides to join Crystal prep, and forms a bond with Spike the dog. Twilight is naturally wary of him but after some reassuring they're friends.<br>Thorax then grows to become class president and his old friends join him.

What if she was a world leader, of a group nobody liked. She probably thought a good tactic was getting to the young people to change them to her ways and tried to take over Canterlot high, acting as Cadence. After friendly vice principal Cadence finds out she takes down the whole operation. One of Chrysalis's loyal workers decides to join Crystal prep, and forms a bond with Spike the dog. Twilight is naturally wary of him but after some reassuring they're friends.
Thorax then grows to become class president and his old friends join him.

The thought of thorax being friends with a dog is both wholesome and kinda weird


her being a principal of sorts is definitely possible, maybe like if a boarding school or a very private and strict school, making the kids comform to a certain way and crissy being controlling <br>definitely something more realistic but either way still cool to think about XD

her being a principal of sorts is definitely possible, maybe like if a boarding school or a very private and strict school, making the kids comform to a certain way and crissy being controlling
definitely something more realistic but either way still cool to think about XD

Plot twist:what if she's Principal Cinch,after all you could say she's an alicorn, sort of. with both wings and magic.

Plot twist, she was Principle Cinch all along...

@theRCenby er maybe hes a sports person?

@Sawtooth Waves oh gosh XD is tirek next?


In the wedding episode Chrysalis said equestria has more love than any place she had ever encountered- that definitely sounds like she's been to the human world


I always though Crysalis could run an orphanage with the changelings being the orphans. That gives Thorax the chance to grow up under her guidance but disagree with her methods and take over the orphanage for her


I feel like she'd be some kind of makeup artist of sorts. Maybe her slogan could be something like "Become anyone you want in this world & achieve the love & adoration you deserve!". Perhaps she could also be sort of a fashion designer to go along with it? She could run a beautician/cosmetology/fashion designer school for those with a similar passion? Just my take on things. Hope you all have a great weekend. 🌟💚🦋


Well despite there being fanfics of her “human” form

I do think the last one where she would be a principal is a very good idea on how it would flip from Equestria to the human world
I personally expected her to be in the friendship games instead of Principle Cinch, it would of been more fitting since we had already known the character.

@Sawtooth Waves I think that king sombra would be a better villian  as principal sombra instead of principal cinch.
And this also creates another logic about cadence's past!!
We don't know how cadence became the Princess of the crystal empire, maybe there was Princess cinch rulling the crystal empire

@Sawtooth Waves Who is Cinch anyway? We never saw her in Equestria. Is it possible she doesn't have a pony counterpart? Following the patern with Celestia, Luna and Cadence is it possible that pony Cinch rules some part of Equestria?

@Sawtooth Waves now that I think about it more, yea it would make more sense for her to have her own school.

i don't think chrysalis' personality and goals would have driven that story as well, so i think chrysalis would have her own school! more on that next week c:


I love this idea, especially as there is quite few villains in mlp like, could night mare moon and tirek exist in the human world?

@ChristinewhoYT that would be really interesting!

Nah nightmare moon was luna's edgy teen phase

I guess so but how does pinkie know about her? She litterally mention her on 'rollercoaster of friendship'.

@Maia Duffield I know as I said Nightmare moon could be an alternate Ego oof Luna or she, Luna, could have Multipe Personality Disorder which also know as Dissositative Identity Disoer.

The problem with nightmare moon in the human world is that she’s a part of Luna.

My Headcanon is that Vice Principal Luna ran away from home and became a Black OPs agent, where she got the code name.

After 10 years interrogating terrorists and enemy agents, getting teenages to spill their guts is easy.

@Omori Fan Wait what if human Luna is a gamer. Since could use Nightmare moon as her oc. For funs or stuff. Or for Halloween. Flutterbat could be a disguise for Halloween for Fluttershy and still be a vampire.


We got discord, chrysalis, and a possible answer for human cozy glow. All we need is Tirek and Sombra


Anyone else think human crystalys looks like Yzma?<br>Also, in regards to the vampire thing, it's hard to say if human vampires would have reflections because Flutterbat was literally defeated by her own reflection

Anyone else think human crystalys looks like Yzma?
Also, in regards to the vampire thing, it's hard to say if human vampires would have reflections because Flutterbat was literally defeated by her own reflection

I think Chrysalis looks like a drug dealer


I'd like to see chrysalis as some sort of demon, since some of them can change form, and instead of feeding on love, She could feed of humans souls.


Human!Chrysalis might run, like, a daycare, orphanage, or foster kids? That way, they're all hers but they can still look distinct like the reformed!Changelings.<br>Or maybe she's Head Warden of a juvie detention center!

Human!Chrysalis might run, like, a daycare, orphanage, or foster kids? That way, they're all hers but they can still look distinct like the reformed!Changelings.
Or maybe she's Head Warden of a juvie detention center!

@Lil' J Or his siblings smacked him around, which happened to changeling!Thorax in canon, so...

That kinda implies that she abused thorax causing him to run away


That vector art of Chrysalis by Cruella reminds me of Yzma.

Exactly what i thought, same vibe.... better looking tho


My theory is that Human Chrysalis Would be a bug queen that got affected by the magic of the portal turning her into some Kind of Magic human that has the hability of Shapeshift?

@Twilight sparkle The princess of friendship Oh okay princess,i think i can trust you anyways,you were there

@Itz_athanaSIA🐺 that was a different sombra not the evils sombra

@Chøcolate_Chip ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ Never EVER trust comics,in the comic with the mirror thing they wrote that Sombra and Celestia love each other (I don't ship Luna×Sombra)

@Cedar the Yeah. Just yeah. i think comics are canon unless hasbro says they aren’t.

Well, in the Fiendship is Magic comics [which are comics and therefore may or may not be canon] the first changelings, including Chrysalis herself, came out of a swamp when Starswirl the Bearded botched some kind of spell. So something like that could've happened!

Maybe it's like when Twilight was transform into midnight Sparkle


I remember when Friendship Games was first announced, everyone was convinced that Principal Cinch was gonna be Chrysalis in disguise, especially since they had release a Chrysalis EQG doll around that time. I was very surprised when I watched the movie and it turned out not to be the case. But still, I think the idea of Chysalis disguising as Cinch with her school's students being the human world's equivalant of changelings has a lot of potential, especially since everyone at Crystal Prep seemed so obsessed with success and good reputation, which could tie in with Chrysalis' hunger for love. + Candance and Shining Armor, two characters who have a history with Chrysalis in the pony world, also work at that school.


We see that Sirens, while humanoid, do still have their powers and can consume energies from chaos. I think that Chrysalis would resemble the real-life myth of the changeling a bit closer, and would instead kidnap children and replace them with a changeling.


Yooo! Imagine if she actually went through the portal? Maybe the changelings have their own school?


I can see Human Chrysalis as vampire queen and her supposed colony of vampires

Also what if there was a FlutterBat human counterpart? I mean that would be awesome to see her as a human and be able to turn into a bat.


I love the idea of Chysalis being a vampire. It sounds so cool and having a Fluttershy turned into a bat by human Chysalis sounds awesome 👌


A changeling boarding school sounds like a super cool idea! It would make sense as a good parallel if there was a big emphasis on treating the other inhabitants of the school like family.


Back when I was making EQG fanfic, I had Chrysalis be the principal of her own school; "Changeling High". She then have some of her students temporarily transfer to rival schools, join their event teams/clubs, and sabotage them whenever they compete against her school.


I love all this art! Where do you get it from?


I honestly love the idea of Chrysalis being a vampire, as well as the drone thing- that could be hilarious-

Also when you think about how thorax could be a robot drone lmao

Thorax is friends with spike, spike is a talking dog in this world, so a robot clone and a talking dog being friends............ That honestly sounds like a weird sitcom lmao


changelings are a bit like ponies apart from the drinking love thing, so i think she would transform similiar to a pony. a school is pretty reasonable for her and we've already seen teachers in the friendship games that tried to manipulate human world twilight and that seems like a perfect fit for queen chrystalis. but some things in this video are too specific. she might manipulate her students, but you have to remember that this world has no magic and some things have to be slightly different or not happen at all in this world. not only that, but she wouldn't really be the same if she didn't have to feed on ponies love. in to where and back again, we learnt that the main reason why she took over equestria is because she wanted her subjects to be able to feed on their love. if she didn't have to do that in the human world, than maybe she would be an overall much nicer person.


I definitely like the idea of Crystalis having her own school. Maybe it would be a school for spies! This explains the ability for her and her students to change forms. not sure about the whole translation of stealing love or life force.


0:05 LOVE this art piece!
0:57 She looks like Cruella De-Vil!


Actually, after the reveal of ocellus’ family, i kind of thought that despite what it looked like in thorax’s flashback, that the changelings aren’t all chrysalis’ children. And after the episode where fluttershy and spike go to the dragon lands, seeing amber watch the eggs, i think it’s possible chrysalis plays a similar role. As much as i love the idea of changlings being like bugs, and majority of the colony being the offspring of the queen, it doesn’t make sense for them to have evolved so quickly after her overthrowing to produce their own offpspring without a queen.


And of course, there's a school uniform!<br>(perhaps the new changeling society would be from students rebelling against the uniform) Chrysalis doubles down, gets fired, and then Thorax is the principle.

And of course, there's a school uniform!
(perhaps the new changeling society would be from students rebelling against the uniform) Chrysalis doubles down, gets fired, and then Thorax is the principle.

Wouldn't thorax be too young to be the new principle tho? He's probably a teen in this universe

i don't wanna start a revolution against school uniforms so chrysalis' school is just victim to general conformity


The Way Chrysalis is seen in MLP, she has a higher stat than others and declares herself as a superior being. So she would Probably become a principal of her own school. But the fact she changes into other people or things, it makes me think she would make more sense as either a, principal, a gardener, or even a vampire. The Vampire makes a lot of sense, but it think it might be a bit over thinking it. It would make more sense that she is a Principal, due to her superior look, and also how she is portrayed in MLP. I think there could be WAY more ideas. but I haven't thought that far.

Nice Video Sawtooth! ❤


I would think Chrysalis would be a fairy as that's how they're portrayed in lore. Also, since changlings in European folklore tend to kidnap children and replace the child with their own, like a parasitic relationship that some birds have with each other (cokoo birds for example). She could have a hive of fairies and humans raised in fey magic with shifting abilities somewhere. Maybe she can even be mascarading as an orphanage headmaster to gain love from orphaned kids to add to her power.


When I saw the thumbnail image’s Chrysalis, for some reason I thought about maybe she’s a rich lady who drains people of their savings through products that SEEM to work, but don’t really do much, let alone what they’re advertised. And what if the Changelings are her servants? I dunno, I’m not good at theories and stuff…


I really love the principal idea! I had a little story idea, too!<br>We have seen a lot of people using magic in the human world, so, what if Chrysalis was someone who had a lot of bugs that she raised and that she could make them into humans for things such as serving her and, collecting love¿ And one of her bugs was different from the others and did not require love¿ Then he would make them all morph into the same thing¿ Or, they could be butterflies that Chrysalis made raised to not cocoon¿

I really love the principal idea! I had a little story idea, too!
We have seen a lot of people using magic in the human world, so, what if Chrysalis was someone who had a lot of bugs that she raised and that she could make them into humans for things such as serving her and, collecting love¿ And one of her bugs was different from the others and did not require love¿ Then he would make them all morph into the same thing¿ Or, they could be butterflies that Chrysalis made raised to not cocoon¿


That whole vampire thing was hilarious though, and very Halloweeny, someone's ready for Spooky month and it's not just me. Although it interesting to think of Chrysalis as a principal, but that raises the question of, what kind of principle would she be if that was the case? And what would be the name of the school? It's all kinds of interesting and fun to think about, definitely much more interesting than what Fluffle Puff does with her in the human world anyway


I like the idea of Chrysalis being a scientist, It makes me think that her colony could be her various research assistants and that their magic could translate into various chemical concoctions they made that allow them to change shape!


Maybe Chrysalis runs a military school where all her students would be forced to look the same and she would take a “motherly” role where she pretends to care but if they don’t fall in line she turns on them, Kind of like our chrysalis. If you like this idea could you bring it up in the video about human chrysalis’s school


Maybe Chrysalis could be some sort of military officer? Celestia, Luna and Cadence are all classified as princesses in the pony world, but principals in the human, since Chrysalis is the QUEEN of her hive I think it'd make sense for her to be a sort of next step up from a school principal. That way it would also make sense for the changelings in the human world to all look the exact same, since human soldiers are all near identical.


I love all your videos!!! Maybe you can do one on human starlight too? I wonder if she'd be running a creepy village in this world too lol


Either way, Chrysalis is AT LEAST a principal. In Equestria, princesses become deans and principals (other than twilight because she wasn’t crowned ruler of Equestria back then) of schools. So if Chrysalis is a queen in Equestria, she has to have a leadership job, such as the CEO os CHS. That actually makes a lot of sense!


I was thinking, maybe she could run an orphanage or foster home. It seems dark in a way, but I guess a lighter take could be a boarding school principal.


A HW chrysalis? I suppose, she’d be an insect loving actor. She’s able to slip in and out of her roles quickly leaving some uncomfortable and drained feeling after seeing her do it. Thorax would be her only kid and together they’d own a few insect hives which chrysalis is very protective over


i do think queen chrysalis would be a human, considering the way the portal "translates" the equestrians to the human world inhabitants. i don't think she'd run a cult, but rather manage/own a robot factory. the "robots" are her changelings.  perhaps she might just want to have a monopoly on the human world, taking it over in that sense as opposed to super evil kind of taking over.


I really like how you try and use all of the possibilities


To be honest up until I heard multiple other YouTubers confirmed that she was actually an EQG OC, I thought the principal Sench the former principal of Crystal prep actually was the human form Queen Chrysalis


I like how he says "us" when referring to changelings he stays with the lore


I imagine her being a “caretaker” of orphans. Like Miss Hanigan from Annie.


We actually have seen her reflection, if you count when she was pretending to be cadence. We saw her look into a mirror during a song, tho I am not sure if it’d make a difference wether she was transformed or not.


They should make a new Equestria Girls series showing things similar to the pony world.


It's a good idea for a scary villain to be mentioned about her human counterpart... 👍

Next you should do king Sombra's human counterpart..


that heart to blood transition is really creative


I think she would be a principal, if COULD happen. Sawtooth, if you are ‘in’ Equestria, why not just try for a couple of decades to free your queen, push her into the mirror/portal and go after her?


I like the idea others have come up with on Fimfic: that Chrysalis in that world is part of a spy company, her "children" are just her subordinates, and she's actually a very nice person (who's dating Luna, I ship it!). I've also expanded the headcanon myself to depict Thorax, Pharynx, and Ocellus as spy trainees that defected from the company and are making headway into developing their own, less brutal version of it, with help and guidance from Chrysalis herself (who I depict as their trainer and aunt rather than their mother in that world)

But I also really enjoy these headcanons you've considered! And the insect colony thing is an interesting idea as well.


Human world Chrysalis could still be a changeling, but one more like that of mythology. Her "children" could actually be represented as the ranks below her.


There is a human Queen Chrysalis though, at least in the toys

@Vérnyúl kisasszony it was part of the ponymania line, which was exclusive to toys r us

Really? I never heard of it, I need to check it out!

Edit: I looked it up. I honestly thought she'd be more menacing. She just looks like a goodhearted fairy... I mean it could be certainly effective for fooling people, but she looks like someone who's trying to imitate Chrysalis, rather than being her.

Of course it would be in the toys and show, that the most logical thing to do


Interesting video! Can you make your human counterpart with these human videos!


I've been watching your vids nonstop for the past week or so even though I didn't watch that many eps of my little pony<br>It's honestly fun and super addictive

I've been watching your vids nonstop for the past week or so even though I didn't watch that many eps of my little pony
It's honestly fun and super addictive


I have a question… during Discord’s reign, how could he make the sun and moon rise and set so quickly, even though Celestia and Luna were perfectly fine at the time?


I love how they refer to the changelings as "us" because their OC is a changeling!


When I first saw the drawing of the humanoid version of Crysalis, my first thought was actually "Drag Queen". So...

"Drag Queen that runs a theater group"? (possibly a trans woman drag queen, if not a cis woman who none the less performs as a drag queen anyway.) And that the other members of that theater group are her figurative/"adoptive" children...

Which, could, (of course) extend into Thorax being a former student of hers that leaves and starts his own rival theater group after publicly exposing how Crysalis uses and abuses said students. (Thorax, himself being a Drag King; of course!) ^_^


I like how he relates to changelings as " <i>us</i> ". Fun little detail :D

I like how he relates to changelings as " _us_ ". Fun little detail :D


I have a feeling though if Chrysalis can travel to Human World without the magic mirror, one of the changelings can change into a portal to the other world and Chrysalis can go through. You know we saw Thorax transformed to a stone.


When I was thinking about what changelings would be like in the human world, I came to the conclusion that their normal forms would be human-like but they could still change.


I'm not going to lie, I always thought that Queen Chrysalis' counterpart and Principal Cinch were one in the same. This may sound odd, but their stories share a few parallels.
Principle Cinch was an evil person, who was in charge of Crystal Prep. Once she was defeated, the role went to Cadence, who it should have belonged to all along. This is similar to how Chrysalis impersonated Cadence, and pretended to be a princess. Both did this for the same reasons; power and admiration.
In addition, when Principal Cinch's true evilness was exposed, all her students turned against her, just like all the changelings turned against Chrysalis at the end of Season 7.
Perhaps I am correct, perhaps I am not. We will never know.


Wow,Sawtooth's Making All of These Human World "What If" Characters. I Think It's Time We See What Sawtooth Looks Like As a Human. You Know What I'm Talking About...An Equestria Girls Version of Sawtooth!


Maybe she is the boss of a large company (a company that does illusions) and the rest of the changelings are employees. This would make Thorax and the rest of the reformed changelings a rival company. Like Apple and Android. IHop and Denny's. It's a simple yet interesting explanation.


I feel like Chrysalis would be like a cosplayer or a youtuber and the changelings would be her fans but this idea is a lot more interesting


I always thought her human form would be head of an adoption center and the most gifted kid there would be trained to take over for her.


I thought that instead of vampires, you were gonna say a fashion mogul, who has a bad habit of trying to change others to follow HER look/fashion, leaving no unique, individual style. Just identical looking 'drones', while draining them of their own creativity and making tons of money or something similar.


I always thought she’d be like an actress or something. It would match with the transforming.


I think she would be a gang leader, thorax and two or three other changelings (including thoraxes brother) are her children. Thorax becomes a cop and organizes a rehab for all the gang members, making them good people again.


Simple, You know if someone gets tooken over by Equestrian Magic? Yeah. I imagine Chrysalis has been tooken over by Equestrian Magic, giving her great abilities.


I would see them as a cult leader (with the school angle it could be an exclusive high school/college that has an exclusive community around it with the new students being considered "reborn" as children and members of the group (maybe even have them have an obsession with the concept of love and the power it has (with Chrysalis bathing in the love of the cults members (with the thorax point it would likely be that they were exposed to someone outside of them and she was kicked out of her cult as thorax made the cult closer to normal society but some member of it followed there leader when they were kicked out)


I feel like she would be a cult leader. Lots of cults see their leader as "The creator" aka. parent, so, though she wouldn't necessarily have biological children, she'd have multiple that consider her their mother. She could be the leader to a cult like Scientology was, controlling even important figures, which could be symbolic for the transformation into others. Lots of cults have the idea that the leader is the center of everything, too, so it'd make sense for them to feed on "love"


I thought Sawtooth was gonna say she was a Skin-walker, since they can shapeshift into any animal and possess their powers if they wear their skin.


Love how much  more regular you are now! Keep it up

@ChristinewhoYT dark mode = <b>heaven</b>

@Jyawshter why is it a blank space and yes I use dark mode and I am on phone.

@Sawtooth Waves I haven't seen you make a G5 video or theory yet. Looking forward to see what you are going to come up with 😊

@Sawtooth Waves Can you please make a video about the mysterious ending of the movie 'The legend of the everfree'.
Because at the last scene sunset asks to twilight about from where did that magical crystals came?
I think that MLP G5 is somehow related to that movie's ending, because in the second trailer of the MLP G5 movie sunny says that all the unicorns lose their magic because a crystal disappeared.

@Sawtooth Wavesi bet $10,000,000 that your reply'll blow up

I'll try!!!!!! but boy is it hard 😅 I'm kicking it into full gear in preparation for g5 but things might settle down again soon


Omgg this is so good!! Hope you make more villains soon!!

Just realized that sawtooth liked and highlighted my comment 😯


In The Canterlot Wedding we did see Queen Chrysalis Reflection but as Cadence. I really enjoyed this. Keep up the good work SawTooth Waves. Have a wonderful day.


I like human Chrysalis with wings she's pretty....And tbh I kinda wish in the show she reformed and changed like the rest, she bendrop dead gorgeous


These theories about Chrysalis are interesting and amazing


She could also be a general of some sorts. And the changelings could be soldiers.


Fun fact: human chylilas was released as a doll in the equestria girls line. So was Zecora and The maniac. Cool theories


I like the theory she is a mob boss and the changelings are just what she called her mob. That way everyone can still exist but she enforces the rule they must all look the same.


I actually prefer the idea of human Chrysalis having access to some sort of magic and cloning herself into different people. Her changelings.


Idea: Chrysalis is a historical figure that students in modern times learn about. Perhaps dictator from hundreds or maybe thousands of years ago,something akin to Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan or maybe even the historical bloody Mary in their world.


Oh I love the principal stuff.
She’s protective over her students and is an old school like principal.
She refuses to change her way. She hates changement.
Until one of the old students fire her or something and replace it completely, maybe also some stuff that could’ve stayed.
The school could then try to act exactly like Celestial’s school as a parallel.

Oh and to explain the similarity in design for the human changeling, maybe dress code and uniforms?
Like that, it could translate the parallel of her being their mother : they’re a direct byproduct of the way she teaches

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I would think that Crysalis is the head of an orphanage, having her own two sons she wanted to spread more love to others. So she takes in all the orphans and raises them until someone adopts them or they feel the need to finally “leave the nest”. Nothing says human Crysalis needs to be evil, our Crysalis needs love to feed, but what if human Crysalis needs love to feel satisfied with her life? Leaving her to help raise kids


The fact that Human Chrysalis looks like that is disturbing.


My theory or my thoughts on human chrysalis is that she's actually 1k+ years old ancient lady who controls Cicadas like vampires and treating them like children for centuries. Or something like that. But she controls cicadas.


I think if Chrysalis did have a human counterpart she'd be a social chameleon. For anyone who don't know what that is a social chameleon is a person whose personality changes to fit any social environment.


Wait, Chrysalis is the literal mother of (most of) the Changelings such as Thorax and Pharynx? That never occured to me before.

I just looked up some clips and Thorax does indeed say "I was raised by an evil queen"


i think chrysalis would be the headmaster/principle of an academy that rivals canterlot high. I liked to imagine it as a very shady "no one outside the school has ever been there" situation, but idk


I never really thought about if there was a Human Chrysalis it would be very intresting to see But i do think the Cosplayer Idea is the most likely


Chrysalis is a magical creature and she could enter the human world, like the Sirens, through a portal. If she hadn't been turned to stone, he could possibly have used the portal and tried to take over the human world. And that would be cool!
#freeChrysalis


Ironically my theory is that she's a wedding planner. And with time she has become envious of all that sweet sappy love.


I'm no longer convinced of Chrysalis being the mother of all changelings after seeing Ocellus with parents of her own at the age she's at - although, to be fair, she might have been adopted, along with all other young changelings that remained after the usurpation, and the mother of all theory could still work.

Still, her being the mother of only some would explain the more unusual changelings (Thorax and Pharynx) being siblings - being descended directly from the queen makes you a bit different. It would also lend additional weight to just how betrayed and angry she felt at Thorax, and Pharynx clinging to the old ways.

What do you think?

I'm no longer convinced of Chrysalis being the mother of _all_ changelings after seeing Ocellus with parents of her own at the age she's at - although, to be fair, she _might_ have been adopted, along with all other young changelings that remained after the usurpation, and the mother of all theory could still work.

Still, her being the mother of only _some_ would explain the more unusual changelings (Thorax and Pharynx) being siblings - being descended directly from the queen makes you a bit different. It would also lend additional weight to just _how_ betrayed and angry she felt at Thorax, and Pharynx clinging to the old ways.

What do you think?


I think chrysalis would be a disguise artist like some spy disguises and would train or have more "changelings" or minions work for her


First thing that came to my mind was Chrysalis runs an orphanage (so all the changelings are kinda her children?) and they're forced to look the same and ensalve other kids for her lil army [wait, she can b a military leader? colour scheme matches 😂]<br>Also, the art of Queen Chrysalis looks so awesomeee🤩🤩

First thing that came to my mind was Chrysalis runs an orphanage (so all the changelings are kinda her children?) and they're forced to look the same and ensalve other kids for her lil army [wait, she can b a military leader? colour scheme matches 😂]
Also, the art of Queen Chrysalis looks so awesomeee🤩🤩


I feel like Crysalis could be a con artist or a scammer because she could disguise herself during a con and she’s good at manipulation


She runs an acting school!!! Oh my god, it's beautiful. I want this so bad!


Haven't even seen the video yet but I'm imagining her like a super villain but like the way Doctor Doom is a super villain. He has a dictatorship where all his citizens like him, adore him even. Everyone outside the country hates him because, I mean he's a super villain, but is subjects are loyal and adoring and he has free reign to do whatever he wants in his own country.


Correction, there is a vampire species that feeds off love and not blood: emotional vampires


Sawtooth did you added the green hive on the tree, or was it really there in the videos that you quoted for evidence? Seems fake to me because it’s really weird with one that is pretty big on a medium tree. I agree that there could be a changeling hive like that in the human world of mlp


I had the idea that maybe Crysalis ran a match making company and her hive were people she hired.  Maybe she calls them her “hive” as a nickname.


She could also be a REALLY popular influencer in the human world.

Or is this too close to home to be a reasonable theory?


she could, by accident, discover portal and magic in her insect research lab, when the starlight of the pony world was visiting other schools for research, and then Crisalis realized in a way that maybe an imported machine, about magic when she was trying to see an insect's aura (a theory of hers) and then discovered these spells, and became obsessed with it, discovering her form in the ponies world in the process (before she was turned to stone) because they have a bond For some reason, Chrysalis of the Human World multiplied the magic of Chrysalis of the Pony World, turning her into a mixture of the Pony World and the Human World (i.e. she would have Pony World powers), and so did her children and students. Wanting to rule the human world


I have a big important question:
If every mega city is just a high school in humans world, would that mean all of thousands of ponies have a human counterpart? Because i don't think we have that many people in CHS do we?
Plus we get characters that don't seem to Exist in Equestria. Like does gloriousa has a pony counterpart?


She could be an actress who plays many roles but is most famous for playing Queen Crysalis.


I think they were just insects.
After Equestrian magic was introduced to the human world, they become humanoids that can  absorb love and transform into stuff.
Then their nest/colony becomes a castle for the QUEEN.


What if Chrysalis used to be a (not evil) biology teacher, but got a promotion to become a principle for Everfree High?


I like the idea she's a principle of her own school, maybe one for those who's parents send away cause they can't control them, thorax is the vice principle and his brother is head of security

That is an awesome theory!  But if majority of the mlp characters are teens in equestrian girls, that means thorax and pharynx are probably teens too, they would be way too young to be in charge of anything, they could be in the student council tho? Maybe?


Heyy I have a question/theory<br>Who was that human we see in friendship games from crystal prep? You know the principal I think along with cadence. Was that cadences mom? Was she the one affected by the potion on hearts and hooves day? Could it be chrysalis? I hope you consider this! Thank you

Heyy I have a question/theory
Who was that human we see in friendship games from crystal prep? You know the principal I think along with cadence. Was that cadences mom? Was she the one affected by the potion on hearts and hooves day? Could it be chrysalis? I hope you consider this! Thank you


I wasn’t too sure about the vampire theory but I can see it happening and I like the part where Fluttershy gets turned into flutter bat. Kinda like how something goes wrong in lab rather than becoming a super hero she’s a bat


I kinda think Crysalis is the plastic surgeon as she can use her skill to change herself or other teens, especially criminals. She still can be the queen in this field as she can help people get away with their crime and use them as minions. Moreover, perhaps people can get more love when they become more beautiful too.


I dont think the creaters of Equastia world thought about each species transforming.

Spike turned into a dog but there are already dogs in both worlds.  I still think dragons should of been humans or reptiles.


I think maybe, if there even is a human Chrysalis she'd be maybe a literal queen from a different country. It'd wouldn't really fit with her abilities or with most of her qualities, but neither do Celestia and Luna, so I think it's possible :3


You have to squint a bit harder to make this one work. I think the bigger question is how much variance can there be in personalities between worlds? Twilight shared some similarities in personality between worlds, but certainly not a 1:1 match. If there can be a greater variance in personality and goals, then maybe Crysalis is more or less normal in the human world. Maybe she has an affinity for insects and a temper problem, but there may not be a deeper dive than that.


Honestly I like the crazy scientist who lures children and turns them into vampired


Sounds plausible, but I think she would be a very... hm, how do I say this... LOVELY woman who spends a lot of time ensnaring people with her looks and body. A prostitude basically. This would explain a LOT: Why she would have so many children, how she would suck love out of people, why she would be such a manipulator and trickster, and all that! I imagine Thorax would be one of her sons who wouldn`t approve of how the family is run with her in charge, and so he would seperate himself from her.

Like so Sawtooth will see!


Sawtooth Waves, I have a new theory for you, We know that there is a princess celestia in the human world and pony world but princess celestia from the pony world is almost immortal but is the human world one too ? We saw princess celestia in clips which date back thousands of years but the princess celestia in the other world is immortal or not? This will create an unbalance in both worlds. How does the balance work for princesses.  Please cover this and I have one more thing, I think it is unfair that pony celestia rules a large and successful country while principal celestia is the head of a school. They should have made principal celestia an president . One more thing. The events of friendship games take place after the coming of the crystal empire and we know princess cadance is the head/ruler of that empire but in the human world, dean cadence is only a dean and not the principle even though her counterpart is the prime ruler of the empire. Please can you make theories on any one of these or at least consider.

PS: Please, I would really like that and I hope you will make theories on these concepts.


I just came back here after 1-2 years and your still as amazing as before 🥲


So according to Sawtooth, she could be any of the following:
Mad scientist
Possessive Beekeeper
Bug
Disguise artist
Vampire
Amazon CEO, or
Principal.

Quite the mix, huh!

I'd like to add that if she can "transform," then maybe she does this symbolically for good as a life coach, "transforming" people's lives.

Solar Scripture, your pic looks awesome, and I love your name!


I definitely like the vampire theory. To me it's makes sense and I like vampires.


just a quick note: not everything that happens in the pony world happens in the human one, and if it does, theres a possibility that it doesnt happen the same way. this could mean that chrysalis, tirek, discord etc. may not even exist in the human world


It is so great how you always post such amazing videos, can you make a video about friendship is magic? Thanks so much


I wonder how she’d control her students if we’re taking the principal route 🤔


Here's an idea. Crysalis could run a school about insets🐞 like a biology school


Her “life” is her children, even though she doesn’t admit, it can be seen that she loves them in some way. I feel like she would be the “mother” of orphanage but cause she’s not very good she would probably try to raise kids to think just like her. That would make them her own “colony” that agrees with her on values and all that stuff. But cause you know, she is not a very good person, others would try to take her down just like in the pony world. But she would try to regain her power cause she “loves” her kids

Thorax could be one of the orphanage kids who decides to stand up and stop her from raising kids into terrible beings like her


Actually after i watched this video i just assumed that Crysalis can be a president of a country- or a polittian of some sort👁👄👁


Gia Everfree is the closest thing I can think of…yes that was just Magic getting out of control but the behavior and possessiveness lines up


Her dresses are beautiful, I want these dresses!


I never thought about a human Chrysalis, but it makes sense. There should be human counterparts of all of the mlp characters.


I am very late to the discussion here.

Personally an idea that I find quite funny interesting and thematic would be if Chrysalis were an AI and she controlled a swarm of nano machines that the inventor called the Change or the Swarm. I like this idea since artificial intelligence is both in media and reality do not have a very solid grasp on the concept of love or human emotions in general.

Alternatively for the school idea I am picturing something like the high school from kill la kill except it's Ragyō running the school and 99% of the school buddy is made up of individuals who look like they are one star uniform bearers.


I always felt that Cryisalis was a lot like principal cinch all her students agreed with her until they found a better way but still stay in the hive just with a new leader she controlled Sci twi for her reputation to have her students have as much as they wanted also I feel like Cadence and Cryisalis are tied together and Cadence started running the school instead of Cinch . And the other thing I could think of is her being a plastic surgeon changing the way people look maybe even doing it how she wanted given who controlling ur mom is lol 🤣 one day you need to make a video on all things changling and you being in the hive


You have really fun theories, some like this one, I don’t really get/agree with. But I still rather enjoy watching your videos and hearing you theories ^^


I'm early 😂 fantastic video you always make so many awesome videos


i think that she would be an actress, taking the form of different characters. and the other changelings would be her fans and idolize her so she would still be some sort of "queen".


I do remember reading that one fanfiction one time. The Changelings is just a mafia group and are experts on providing their clients forged identity documents and something similar.


I mean, there are some big families in our world. And there were cases of a mother giving birth to triplets and more. So what if Chrysalis is just one of those overworked moms who have way to many children because they for some reason don't believe in save adult fun time? It would give the human world a bit of a darker realistic twist but still would reference the Changeling hive. It would also kind of parallel the og Chrysalis from a story pov. Sometimes overworked moms are forced to give their children away or have to go to clinics due to mental comditions like depression and/or addiction. The story in mymond would go something like this:
 In the human world, Chrysalis could be a young mom, maybe even a teen mom. A couple of years after she had her forst sons, Thorax and his brother, she gave birth to a number of other children because of her believes (maybe she's a strict catholic) that she is meant to have a lot of children. But becong a mother at an age so young, she couldn't handle it. Thus, she fell victim to alcohol addiction. Drinking her worries away to be able to cope with all the pressure a mom of multiple kids has. This is not hidden for long and so Chrysalis has to go to a clinic to cure. Her son Thorax is meanwhile taking care of his siblings while their mom recovers.

I am aware that this might a tad to dark for Equestria Girls, but isn't that what we theorists do? Uncovering some might be hidden lore behind the stories we are given?


This is really interesting. How about Sombra or Tirek next?


I thought she would be an actor at first, and all the other changelings her fans??


I once read this EQG fanfic where the changelings were something akin to identity thieves.


We might need to sit down and really think about this..<br>If we look into chrysalis's backstory and what happened in their world we might just get our answer.

We might need to sit down and really think about this..
If we look into chrysalis's backstory and what happened in their world we might just get our answer.


Wasn't there an idea to show Chrysalis as the leader of a biker gang with the changelings being the other bikers? I have heard of this idea somewhere, but I can't remember where. Could've been a funny scene to show her being followed by well over a hundred identical looking thugs on bikes, causing chaos wherever they are.


I always thought that Principal Cinch was actually human Crysalis 😅🤷♂ think about it in this way: she used to "control" her students, so they could win and even "steal" (remember Sci-Twi). Also, I related Cinch-Crysalis because their relation with Cadence. In human world, Cinch is the boss of Cadence, while in Equestria Crysalis made prisoner to her. Shining Armor for example, in Equestria was dominated by Crysalis, and in human world he looks like he was very controled during his scholar life in Crystal Prep. Idk, is just a theory...


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She actually is, queen of the hives are responsible with laying a bunch of eggs, which is what she does.


Yayy another video! Wow you are so creative, I would have never thought of human queen chrysalis


If Chrysalis was a principal, it was a missed opportunity in the school competition because then it would make more sense to have the rival students be more like the Equastria girls knockoffs and all of the students basically look the same as in all blue.


This Vampire Chrysalis looks remarkably like Izma.
I can already hear her yell "PULL THE LEVER, DUSK!"
And naturally, I'd pull the wrong lever.


We know Princess Celestia was a ruler and she translated to ruling a school instead, so it makes sense that Chrysalis would be similar.
I like that idea of her students being her subjects. Instead of changing forms she could dress up like her students. To control them like her hive she could spread rumors or just be a strict principal, making it so that her students follow her beliefs and rules.
OH, and for the reformed changelings, maybe Thorax tries to become the new principal, gains favor from the students, and ends up replacing Chrysalis and making the school a happier place.


i get so happy when I see the notification that sawtooth uploaded a new video <br>keep going sawtooth:)

i get so happy when I see the notification that sawtooth uploaded a new video
keep going sawtooth:)


Sawtooth i don't know if you have already talked about this, but i have discovered a very intresting thing. You know the song how the magic of friendship grows where twilight teaches luster dawn about friendship, well if you look closely at the end of the song after fluttershy's bit you see the one of the other six in each of the mane six. Does this give you anything?


She's a Godmother. Like she runs the mob in the unnamed city.


If we take the vampire theory, maybe human Chrysalis could be the Equestria Girls counterpart of Count Dracula, something like "Countess Chrysalis", I mean, in one of the EG shorts mention Tirek as a videogame character with his own franchise, so it wouldn't be too farfetch to assume she a novel/literature character.


if crysalis has a school, its only fitting that the thereter department has alot of funds there. think about it, a changling changes forms while an actor changes charecter. she would probably be a mean princible tho


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Chrysalis could be a celebrity who gets a hold of Equestrian Magic to use in an evil scheme. Maybe she's been loosing popularity, so she uses her new magic to transform into other celebrities to ruin their reputation. She could even gain power as fans worship her. Would make for an interesting plot for a potential special.


I think Chrysalis would be someone who runs a mafia-like business underground, she'd technically be deemed a queen to that mafia business thing. If that's too dark, then maybe a leader of a shady business. She could go undercover or disguise herself as different people. I personally thing that's the human translation of Queen Chrysalis. I dunno it's 1 am and I'm half awake


I'd like to think human chrysalis is just a crazy cat lady and her changelings are the cats.


I think chrysalis would on school but I feel like it would be more of a program for actors because they change into people and they act like people so they would be able to copy and mimic someone and that would be a good interpretation into the whole changeling and changing to someone and of someone else and pretending to be them I wouldn’t understand what her motive would be for anything bad well maybe jealousy but I think that she would be a well-known respected actor


Early! Although I don't think discord or chrysalis have a human version, the sirens didn't have a human version, they were banished there. What hopes do we have for discord/chrysalis?

@Unique Phoenix discord and chrysalis totally have human counterparts

I mean they probably do, but just aren't shown in the show to avoid confusion


I always thought flinch was like the human world chrysalis because all her students were like "clones" of the main six


Maybe she could be some sort of an authority figure with lots of "minions" By her side, and doing some bad stuff like stealing, like what she does in Equestria with love, but with something material like money or even houses


You talked about Crystallis reformed and you have also talked about your idea for a human world Crystalis in this video. Put those two ideas together. What would a human reformed Crystalis look like?


Human Chrysalis raising a bug farm is so wholesome in my head


Thumbnail just getting more and more cursed


I like how you try make it realistic to the human world, but considering the sirens are able to sing and get their friendship.l and able to take their forms when they get enough magic. It really is possible that the changelings and cyrsalist can do the same thing in the human world.


Fun fact: in Serbian myth (the word vampire comes the from Serbian "vampir") vampires can shapeshift into anything and anyone. They aren't really killed by daylight just "go back to their grave".


I think she'd be a drag queen or a fashion designer that would be awesome


She could be a skinwalker, a witch who can use the skin of any corpse to transform into the species of said corpse... be it other humans, wolves, rabbits, insects, or otherwise. They can also possess creatures of all kinds to do their bidding. If Chrysalis IS a skinwalker in the human world, it's likely that changelings are a variety of animals and people working for her, possibly granted the ability to shapeshift as well.

Edit after doing some research:

My other idea is that Chrysalis is a fairy. After doing some research I found that some fairies in folklore had different ranges of shapeshifting abilities, from size shifting to illusions and even full fledged shapeshifting. And get this... there is a deformed species of human-fairy hybrids which are known as CHANGELINGS!!! If Chrysalis IS a fairy then not only can all the changelings be her children, but they ultimately STAY CHANGELINGS! The only problem is that there's no evidence towards these changelings being able to shapeshift, but I might not have looked hard enough... or maybe human world changelings just CANT shapeshift.


What if: Chrysalis is a gang leader and the Changelings are the other gang members? And Thorax becomes the gang leader?

The term "thorax is a gang leader" is so weirdly out of character lmfao


I think the idea of chrysalis being a social media influencer with a bunch of followers as her changelings(like some of the comments mentioned) is good but I feel like for MLP, they would make her the principal of a school like Sawtooth said at the end. It makes sense for the students to be her changelings since all of them will “look” the same with wearing the same uniform. I’m actually quite surprised that instead of showing Chrysalis as a principal of a school, they showed some other purple woman instead. By the way, please do a video on her! I really wonder whether some human characters have pony counterparts too:)


I think the theory abt Crysalis being a principal of her own school is pretty promising... I feel that what if Crysalis started her own school but her real intention was to expand her changeling army so let's just say the reformed changeling students went to that school but then Crysalis did smthing (probably soaked their love or smthing) and turned her students into evil changelings but if this actually happened there would be some triggers in CHS abt this.. so I think her school would be rrly far from CHS and crystal prep... But the vampire theory was pretty cool too 😉


Perhaps Chrysalis (is that how you spell her name? Spelling was never my strong suit,) is a cult leader? Some cults see their leaders in the same way a swarm of insects would see their queen. It would explain how she'd have a lot of her "children" at her command. They aren't biologically her offspring, just symbolically within the cult. And her son Thorax overthrows the cult and makes it less... Culty? I dunno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


tbh, I thought she could be a dictator/ some sort of ruler or something like she was a queen of a hive in the MLP world. Chrysalis would not have children but followers, even though she could be cruel, she's there to help support her people, even though she does/allows illegal things just to support her people. But how about the transforming, honestly I don't know much about politics or laws about changing your identity *fully*. Thorax could be grown up in a family of chrysalis followers but realized there's more to it, and that's why he decided to leave. But IDK.


If you think about, it make sense for her to be a makeup artist of some sort. Maybe dramatic makeup that changes entire features. And “The changlings” could be like the group name for her assistents. Since they can “change” how you look drastically


Yahoo, I'm not late for my favourite chanel.😊😊😊<br>And it was worth it. As usual you come up with amazing theories. And I can't wait for your next video and theory.😁👍

Yahoo, I'm not late for my favourite chanel.😊😊😊
And it was worth it. As usual you come up with amazing theories. And I can't wait for your next video and theory.😁👍


Or maybe Chrysalis is part of the Changeling Mafia, Where she's the Boss "Mama" and her Grunts are the Changelings she hired


Or Chrysalis could be a fallen fashionista (which explain his ability to change clothes-appearance), living only from the inherited<br>fortune she gain from his "accidentally dead" husbandS , the changeling are his servants or employees

Or Chrysalis could be a fallen fashionista (which explain his ability to change clothes-appearance), living only from the inherited
fortune she gain from his "accidentally dead" husbandS , the changeling are his servants or employees


Honestly? The Fluffle Puff shorts have biased my head-canon for human Chrysalis.


I was so excited for this one. I've been off school ill all week so seeing this has made me happy


Please do make a video on how age works in equestria! Like how long alicorns live and all that!


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I think if she were to run a school, it would be some type of boarding school that also mandates uniforms. Then maybe the transition into Thorax's leadership would involve some type of fight (maybe not a physical one, maybe a lawsuit to parallel the thoughtfulness in the scheme to get through the hive in To Where And Back Again) which ends up with Thorax getting ownership of the school and changing it to be one of those more unique schools, like a private school of some sort. Also, the uniforms would be abolished since reformed changelings no longer look exactly the same.

EDIT: As for their ability to transform and such, maybe the school has a really good theatre/special effects program that the students are really good with which gets them to look like other people in a convincing way.


What if Chrysalis was at the head of an orphanage ? The Changelings could be the orphans and Chrysalis could be their "adoptive mother" by leading the school and sort of educating them and controlling their lives.
Besides, it would fit her rivalry with the Royal Sisters in Equestria : being the head of the orphanage is quite like being the headmaster of a school but not exactly. Like in Equestria : she's not a princess but a queen and lives with her "children". Celestia and Luna take care of their subjects, but they are not their children. And Chrysalis would do anything to protect her children. She would maybe try to take the head of Canterlot High School because she does not agree with the Sisters' way to educate or simply to have more influence and children ?
And she would hate if Twilight went to close her orphanage ? She would be, like in the show, alone.
That's it ! But it's just an idea ! ^^


How did you get through an entire video about human chrysalis without mentioning the amazing fluffle puff equestria girls videos


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I like the theory on Crysalis having her own school. That would make sense


i don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet but there is actually a equestria girls doll version that they released and she comes with wings (though there wings they used for the pegasus dolls) and the back of the box said she’s the queen of the changelings


Using the ideas of others, I think that maybe Queen C could be the leader of a pyramid scheme, and they sell beauty and makeup related things (that’s how the change factor of the changlings is channelled into the human world). The changlings could think that they need the makeup and stuff to be whole, but then human thorax gets enlightened and teaches everyone that they don’t need the makeup all the time, and that you can use it for good (like how sometimes they change to help others) I get that it’s messy but that’s just my take, and if u want then u can add your ideas as well!


If she was a villain in the human world, I'd like to see her at the head of an important corporation that can basically do whatever it wants to it's employees (Like a Hive).

Her motives would obviously be for her company to rise above everything. For the changing part well, in the great world of companies' leaders and politics, hypocrisy and the ability to easily like is very much needed.
Human Chrysalis wouldn't be able to change her physical appearence, but she'd be able to switch her behaviour to basically get what she wants.
As for draining love ? Well villains like that aren't exactly against manipulation or seduction.


This would bring us to wonder…<br>What the heck does Sawtooth look like as a Human??!!??/j

This would bring us to wonder…
What the heck does Sawtooth look like as a Human??!!??/j


I think it would be so cool and more interesting if Friendship Games would be Celestia’s school vs Queen Chrysalis’s school! Wouldn’t that be so cool and more related to the MLP world?


Wait I have a question:<br>What was the Nightmare Moon problem in the human world?

Wait I have a question:
What was the Nightmare Moon problem in the human world?


Even though the equestrian twilight has lots of power the human twilight has no magic at all (until she met the human main 6). This would be the same with chrysalis meaning her powers would be reflected in her personality instead of her being a vampire or something. People have said she'd be an actor or mob boss, I think she'd be a mix of both. I think she'd be a con artist meaning she changes her look and steals money instead of love. Her clone army would be her army of thieves that all look the same because they are all wearing ninja masks or something.


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I think, because of magic now in the human world, that they'd be like normal humans with shape shifting and love eating abilities.


I’d think chrysalis is a principal, she controls her school like she does her hive. During his last years in school human Thorax would find a way to get her fired, the students would appreciate him for it and he’d become some kind of influence (principal or otherwise) on the students


Next up, the Pillars and Grogar. I wonder what role Grogar is in the human world, will he be a dictator before the founding of the city itself?


Considering the fact that:
Ponies turn into humans in this dimension
Dragons turn into dogs in this dimension

I would imagine that changelings turn into mosquitoes that consume human blood, but this theory doesn’t apply to what changelings are meant to exist for (changing their identity to match the genetics of other ponies, creatures, etc…)

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The Chysalis human forms in the video are vert cool!


I know it sounds like a stretch for the EG universe...but I suspect that if Chrysalis WERE to exist there, she wouldn't be a human; she'd be a fae


I always thought human Chrysalis would be a part of the military...or she, like Tirek, is recreated as a video game villain, possibly EG Aliens.


Now I'm curious on how Nightmare Moon could work in the human world


I think Chrysalis would be like those 2 face Entomologist who... (How am I gonna say this innocently..?) Make babies from different men, she's a single mother who raised lots of children


I wonder if she’d run an orphanage (maybe that stereotypical mean mistress) with all the changelings as her charges


I think that if Crysalis had a school, it’d probably be a military academy or something, so she’d be ruling with an iron fist, like pony Crysalis does


Chrysalis could be a famous actor with swarms of fans willing to do anything for her


To tell you the truth the cloning lab one sounded the most viable


My ideas of Human!Chrysalis is best summarized by the some "Man-eater" by Hall and Oats. A beautiful woman that manipulates men to buy her expensive things and pricey vacations without actually providing anything in return. Other than Non-TVY7 activities at least.

The shape shifting can be represented by her adapting her fashion choices and personality traits in order to make her more appealing to her target. And when the man gets wise to her game, runs out of money, or foolishly gives her control of his bank account? She packs up and moves on to her next target.

If you want to go dark, she could be a black widow: Marry rich man, stay long enough to get into the will, murder him (or file for a crippling divorce), find a new rich bachelor to target.


Theory: What if human Crysalis was like Tsumugi shirogane from Danganronpa, A cosplayer that is so good at cosplaying she could literally pose as anyone and she try's to take over Celestia's school And she is really into bugs Because she can mind control them with a special potion designed in her lab (Mixing with the doctor theory)


I'd like that very much if Chrisalys was a principle of her own school but here's what I actually think...

The only beings we've seen human counterparts of are ponies and Spike. The exceptions we've seen so far are Chrisalys and her swarm (both forms), the hippogryphs, griffins, sirens, dracanequese (Discord's kind ya know😅), Sombra, that goat guy and etc.
These guys' entire lives are based on magic and without it they either cease to exist or be weak beings without much to feed on. The perfect example for it is the Dazzlings. They have been in the human world for a long long time and life for them was pretty hard. While the mane 6 were purifying Sunset, one of them felt the source of magic and instead of saying it's magic, she said Equestrian magic. It's like, that's the only thing that guves them actual power and it's shown at the end of the movie when their transformation is triggered.
The human world may have magic of it's own or once had, lost to how humanity progressed in technology and they saw no need for magic. Maybe those being (mentioned above) existed but died out after the use of magic got less and less.
See how from a temporal aspect the two places differ. Ponies rely on magic a lot. Who needs an email when you have a horn or a dragon? And see that in the G5 trailer there's no magic and ponies made some progressions through technology.


i have this Theory that chrysalis is working in an adoption center. she could stille be like their "Mother" just in a different way. But she goes crazy when the "kids" are misbehaving... or she wants to always be their "Mother" so even when the kids turn 18 she doesnt let them go and is manipulating the kids. she wants their love just like a real mother. and the kids want love from a parent thats why her system works. i think that could work with her pony counter part


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Also you look awesome as a vampire pony! 😈


This might seem simple , but I think chrysalis is like a principal,  and the changlings would most likely be students


0:27 that is not canon in any way shape or form. Just because they are a bug type doesn't mean the hive needed to be spawned from the queen and other then us seeing her interact with a bunch of hatchlings in a brief flash back there is no evidence of Chrysalis ever having children of her own.


I feel the symbolic family is perhaps the best way to handle things here, but rather than a school principle with the students as her children, I prefer her as a mob boss where she's head of the criminal family. Probably has a few biological kids of her own, but most of her "children" are just people accepted into her organized crime syndicate. The transformation abilities of a changeling in this case would be a symbolic one as well: she ensures she has good publicity, appearing to be an upstanding member of society while beneath the surface she is a ruthless criminal.


All of the changlings I noticed have a specific pony form they can transform into maybe the changlings would be like their pony counter parts


If EG's world has monsters like vampires,  would that mean Wendigos in the human world would be what they actually are in the real world?

If that is true, then the EG world just got creepier.


I personally see her as a caring human just like let’s say celestia and twilight sparkle I see them as like a mother daughter pair a nice motherly bond with her students at her school she’s like a mother to her students with vice principal Luna being a aunt of some sort to them as well so chrysalis being a principal of her own school would make logical sense her students are like her children in equestria she’s a caring mother and a very strong general


She could be a goth entomologist or just very manipulative she could be the princess of a third schools student body able to get everyone to do her bidding. Or she is living with Flufflepuff


I like the idea that she is the principal of a school, because just like principal Celestial who is a princess in the mlp world, Crysalis is the Queen in the mlp world.


A bit off topic but if things like Netflix exists in this realm then would they be able to find they pony counterpart? What if human chrysalis saw? Would she attempt to create a colony of her own? Like, use the students and turn them into mind slaves like sunset tried? How would that end?


I love the idea that vampires exist in this world


My personal theory is she might be the principal of a hardcore makeup school, or in my opinion much more likely, a sergeant of a high school military boot camp with the hivemind mindset. Perhaps they specialize and camouflage and disguises even..


The most reasonable and most likely option is chrysalis being the principal of her own school and the students would represent her colony


Actually, Chrysalis was made into a doll of the Equestria Girls line around the Friendship Games part of the line, and I expected her to appear in the Friendship Games movie.


What if Chrysalis was a cult leader? She makes everyone look the same, dress the same, maybe even sound the same. And then attempts to overthrow what is the human world's government or monarchy or something like that. Thats what would make most sense to me


I think Chrysalis would be a gang leader, with the changelings as members of the gang, and Thorax would take over and make them do community service or something.


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i personally really like the Crysalis as a principal theory


I'm thinking she's the principal of her own school as well as a vampire. And all of the changelings are vampire students. Then Thorax could sort of like a pure blood vampire coming in and saying human blood straight from the source isn't the best way of life. Then he somehow gets Chrysalis fired, and he takes over as the new principal. But that's just a theory, a brony theory!


Or chrysalis could be a leader of a secret concentration camp in the human world, that would explain why the changelings would somewhat look the same since they would all be in uniform, yk like someone we know who is dead 👀, and similar to how they were before they reformed they would specialize in combat.


What if she was the head of some company, and the changeling equivalents were employees, much like drones or workers in colony.
The employees don't all have to be her children but maybe the named changelings like Thorax and Pharynx could be
(Sidenote: I do not take credit for this as this was in a fanfic I read once)


I get vibes of like, big political/ religious person. I can definitely see her being like in the whole scientifically vibe thing.


What if she is a model or a actress in the human world and she kept bees or ants in her free time? But she isn't that successful hence we haven't seen her and in her changeling form she needs love to survive and in the human world she needs a certain amount of followers to keep her on the stage.


I think that Changelings wouldn't be able to be in the human world without shapeshifting into a pony before entering the human world. Although if not that, they'd probably turn into insects, seeing as how Spike turned into a dog when he went to the human world.


I think human chrysalis would have a large family with five kids who go on to have kids them self and it is validated by Ocellus‘s parents. I also believe that chrysalis would be controlling


I think Chrysalis would be a social chameleon


Maybe Chrysalis is the headmistress of a school where the changelings attend? All I can think of. Maybe she feeds off the love of her students?


Keep in mind that Chinese vampires take life energy instead of blood, even though they tend to hop around a bit.


Sawtooth, you overthink the whole powers thing. Fun to think about, but the unicorn's magic and the pegasi flight never translated over to the Canterlot High students.

Unless they too were changed by Equestria magic.


Sawtooth, idea for a theory if you haven't done it yet: what happened to the Dazzlings after Starswurl banished them?


It just me or does human Chrysalis look like a cross between Morgana(TLM2), Cruella De Vil and Yzma? Just me? Okay.


Not everything in the human world has to be 100% accurate to the pony world. For example, human twilight used to study at crystal prep whereas pony twlight lived in canterlot


What if she ruled a KINGDOM? And the changlings are her subjects. But she Is greedy of that power and makes them bribe others with riches or looks? I honestly think that would make a lot of since! We haven't seen her cause she is ruling a different country!


Human Chrysalis as a cult leader, or an organised crime boss has potential, heck, even a corrupt political leader of some small country, vampires can work but aren't the only possibility. What I want to know is does she hangs around with a young lady with lots of fluffy pink hair?


I feel like she would be a lot like Spectra from Danny Phantom


people talk all the time about how Rainbow Dash and Applejack swapped elements of harmony, but I think there is chance that they aren't looking into it deep enough, sure there are times where they represented each others element but after listening  to flawless on loop, I came up with something, what if they elements aren't to show to others but to themselves, in movies the quote normally goes that : before you are honest with others, you have to be honest with yourself first, Applejack is shown to be more honest with herself than anyone else, Rainbow is very loyal to her goals as we have seen in bunches of episodes, especially the ones showing the wonderbolts and listening to awesome as I wanna be, I feel some self projection, Some episodes is given Pinkie off as annoying, and some times the others never find her jokes funny, she expresses herself through jokes and gags and she finds it funny, because she is showing the element of laughter to herself before projecting on to others, Twilight is the element of magic and she studies it to her hearts delight, through magic she presents herself through pride, a pride that twilight has hsown multiple episodes, and she always tries to improve herself to the point where she goes bananas,Rarity shoes generosity through her clothing but anyone can do that, she is generous to herself by showing herself the love and care she deserves,Fluttershy is whole other case i need help to debunk but this is what  have so far on her,Fluttershy is always being pushed around by people who take her kindness for granted and use it there advantage, but ive seen Fluttershy use that to her advantage to improve herself, she is kind to her well being and growth as a pony, This theory i kind came up with on the bat, so i need help improving it, Anyone else up to helping me out


That's a pretty interesting thought. At the beginning I had not even thought about before.


I'm sure of it, and I'm pretty sure she looks like that Queen Chrysalis EG doll.


I think human Chrysalis would impersonate, pretending to be a loved/liked person in front of a fan/fans. There would be enough love for Chrysalis to contain. Then she would say something cruel to the fan/fans, turning them upset, draining their love(kinda). But, like Chrysalis in Season 9, the fans would turn against the actual person, causing chaos, as evil as Chryslais is. Since Midnight Sparkle destroyed(you know what I mean) the portal between both worlds, then there probably would be equestrian magic that corrupted Chrysalis, and so she acts like equestrian Chrysalis. But then when she enters Canterlot High and drains everyones love the Mane 7 turn her into stone or try reform her.


Queen Chrysalis could be an dictator of her country/school where she rules it Darth Vadar style , or an very innocent one, she could work in an orphanage or hospital as a nurse/matron/caretaker and show her "motherly love" which is not plausible but it would help chrysalis redeem herself...


I like the Fluffle Puff Chrysalis even if it doesn't really make sense, but the principal of Hive school Chrysalis is a good theory I think.


I thought she might run any arts school where they deal a lot in theater.


I like the idea of Chrysalis being the head of her own school the best.


Although I’m a bit late, maybe chrysalis would be I guess some really manipulative non-vampire makeup artist. And a mother of 10. Yes, there are real ppl who are mothers of ten.


Flurry heart may be the only Alicorn born in Equestria but she might not be the first Alicorn born in the Crystal Empire. In the crystaling episode spike shows us a vase which  tells us the history of the Crystaling and on that vase we an Alicorn and a unicorn which are the parents but the baby is a unicorn but who said that there were the only ones. Please make a video about my theory 🙏🏽


Ocellus's parents were able to give to her and her little siblings because neither her mom nor her dad are the offsprings of chrysalis. but that is also believing that pharynx wouldn't one of the chrysalis's offsprings in the nursery hive itself. Thorax and Pharynx an older sister named Larynx but she left the hive a long time ago and she never came back.


human world Crysalis witch her own school sounds pretty probable. I could see her knowing magic exists and trying to get her hands on it for the longest time. I could see Pharynx and Thorax being her children. Maybe Crysalis gets a hold of magic at some point and uses it on the students to be able to make them change form. After this, thorax runs away, and comes across the mane six and sunset shimmer; a whole wacky adventure happens with the group and he starts going to canterlot high school, but at the very end of the episode he opens up to them about what is happening with crysalis. Or maybe a few things pop up here and there and he tries to hide it, before he decides its best to tell them.


He must have a ridiculously big imagination to come up these theories..

@ashley spitzer ok but I don't get what this has got to do with my comment.

@Jaya Bharathi <br>Creator of MLP Gen-4 left out a lot of things. Like who are Spike's parents and what became of them. And how did his egg end up in Celestia's hooves. And to the time Twilight hatched his egg with her magic. Who are Cadence's parents and what happened to them. And most of all what happen to Princess Celestia and Luna's parents. We know how they became rulers of Equestria after putting Discord to stone the first time. And well leading to event of Luna becoming Nightmare Moon.

@Jaya Bharathi
Creator of MLP Gen-4 left out a lot of things. Like who are Spike's parents and what became of them. And how did his egg end up in Celestia's hooves. And to the time Twilight hatched his egg with her magic. Who are Cadence's parents and what happened to them. And most of all what happen to Princess Celestia and Luna's parents. We know how they became rulers of Equestria after putting Discord to stone the first time. And well leading to event of Luna becoming Nightmare Moon.

@ashley spitzer yeah but coming up with answers for them must take up a lot of time..

Sawtooth Waves does not have a ridiculous big imagination for coming up with these theories. There are a lot of things they left  from MlP FiM. Like who are Spike's parents and what became of them. Snd how did his egg got into Celestia's care. To the time being hatched by Twilight and her magic. There are no clues in the seasons who are his parents.


In my opinion I feel like Crysalis might not run a school and might be a tiny bit different to the Crysalis in Equestria. Hear me out, pony Twilight and human Twilight ate a bit different. Human twilight decides to straight up use this necklace, amulet whatever you wanna call it, and steals magic from the main 7 (or most of them). Sure she didn't seem like she wanted to do that but the fact she listened to the princable in the first place and unleashed the magic seems a bit off. Would out pony Twilight really want to unleash some magic and turn herself evil without knowing it? Sure she has made some mistakes but I'm pretty sure Twilight wouldn't make a necklace thing designed to steal magic. In the pony world she has some of her own magic so what's the point? However, it is true that these worlds are very different. I feel like 'human' Crysalis would be evil, like Equestria's Crysalis but I don't think she would be the same. She might not even have a 'colony' for all we know.

What do you guys think?

In my opinion I feel like Crysalis might not run a school and might be a tiny bit different to the Crysalis in Equestria. Hear me out, pony Twilight and human Twilight ate a bit different. Human twilight decides to straight up use this necklace, amulet whatever you wanna call it, and steals magic from the main 7 (or most of them). Sure she didn't seem like she wanted to do that but the fact she listened to the princable in the first place and unleashed the magic seems a bit off. Would out pony Twilight *really* want to unleash some magic and turn herself evil without knowing it? Sure she has made some mistakes but I'm pretty sure Twilight wouldn't make a necklace thing *designed* to steal magic. In the pony world she has some of her own magic so what's the point? However, it is true that these worlds are very different. I feel like 'human' Crysalis would be evil, like Equestria's Crysalis but I don't think she would be the same. She might not even have a 'colony' for all we know.

What do you guys think?


A school for shapeshifters (werewolves, vampires,etc etc) that would be awesome
Buuuut it would probably more like an experiment gone wrong in her school.
😱 What if the experiment gone wrong transformers them into something like changelings. There was a time when messing with magic has changed twilight sparkle evil. And a former student takes over after he changes he could help the others change back to themselves


That design for human Chrysalis looks like Cruella De' Vil

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The school sound better, but the human crystalis could actually be a mother with children's from others father's, and she send them to steal food, after all, love is changing food, also I don't think she would have million of children's but at least 50, and all of them working together to steal food and money from others, she's teaching her kids to disguise themselves so they can enter all sorts of places so they can steal from, like school or a mall, I don't know, I just want to think of a story that would fit my human form of my oc when she's eventually met her pony form, also the human form isn't reform like the pony form, but the pony form of herself help her and she (or both of them) transform into reform version of herself


To expand on Chryalis being a cosplayer.. Perhaps Thorax exposes her for stealing cosplay materials from others, despite claiming to be custom-made. Almost a sub-community who doesn't want to be with the main. (Think furries or bronies.)


Something to keep in mind with the human world is that the pony world's events and powers don't translate to the human world. There are enough substantial differences between the worlds that most events in one never happened in the other, and while most relationships are largely the same overall, the details have shifted dramatically. So while the pony world's Chrysalis has tried to take over Equestria, the human world version likely never would have tried, and while she likely maintains a position of authority over her hive here, she most likely doesn't possess any traits that reflect her pony powers without Equestrian magic affecting her.

As for WHERE human Chrysalis is, I think it's likely she's an actual queen here, and her nation consists of a different human race, since changelings are a completely different species but still mostly horse-like.


VAMPIRES. THAT’S THE ANSWER.

Or, since the sirens were the only ones in their existence, maybe she’s not there. Maybe she’s only in equestria.

If Vampires exist, I assume that real magic exists in that world, just a different kind. Discord would possibly be a warlock.


Chrysalis could be a back ally gang that vandalizes crystal prep


I would of gone with a beautiful countess that is secretly a black widow that when pony up becomes more of an Insectoid being and her many children from her many love affair and multiple marriages can also become Insectoid beings


For some weird reason I always thought that Principal Cinch was her human equivalent I have no idea why though


I fought chrysalis would be like the girl who owns a adoption centre and she is also a cosplayer


Imma come after 10 minutes, creating a good theory

Ok back- First, chrysalis as a word is more of a pupa kind of thing, so I’ll consider her to be a changeling bat as they form that type of shape when they sleep and lead the changelings or other bats as the “queen bee”, I’ll also think of her being able to talk and change to various other animals or even a microbe and infect people like a bacteria or virus- this theory makes no sense but I mean she can be a bat also.


i think all changelings might be insects, because their equestia's counterparts looks more insect than pony.


there is another angle that u could consider, Human Chrysie owns a factory, her Hive is her factory workers, the product could be clothing or something similar...she could be insanely focused on profit to the exclusion of all else