I'VE HAD TO WORK HARD EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE, AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT? This...BRIEF-case and this HAIR-loss treatment: https://keeps.com/emplemon
this episode is the only video, no, any piece of viewable content that i will not only jump at the chance to watch again, but actively search it out to watch it again good work bro
Awesome video as usual my guy. Love the choose and use of music. I was just wonder if you could do a “Never ever” video on a Formula 1 driver like you did to dale earnheart. Anyways keep up these videos man they are great.
Something ironic about him going to Evergreen College. I recomend the "Benjamin B. Boyce," YouTube channel...he did a multipart documentary in a playlist called "THE COMPLETE EVERGREEN STORY." I really recommend it!!
From gen x cynicism to modern day censorship and racial politics
okay seriously, am I in the minority here because I keep hearing people SAYING they sympthised with Grimey.
But I always laugh hardest when Homer does something to drive him a little more insane, from eating his lunch and purposely putting the last bite back in the bag to winning the model contest, seeing Grimey tortured accidentally by Homer is hilarious to me
Kaiser Soymilk2021-03-04 15:51:54 (edited 2021-03-04 15:52:47 )
You got Gen X dates spectacularly wrong: when the Simpsons came out Gen Xers were around 12 and 14 when Nirvana and grunge went mainstream. Certainly no-one of them was born during Nixon's era. P.S. Matt Groening is a boomer, NOT a Gen Xer, this may be the source of your confusion.
@Robert Vierra there’s no Mordors either. At least not literally. Where in from in Massachusetts everyone calls Brockton Morder cause they are both filled with violent filthy locals. And both just look so dank & lifeless. There’s no volcano in brockton that I know of though
@Gibraltar The simulation you are convinced you are experiencing is a faulty program experiencing technical difficulties. Please cancel yourself out and restart
"We’re going to ask you to take 3 photos of your hair (we’ll guide you through how to do it). Your doctor needs these photos to make a diagnosis and recommend your specific treatment.: "We also need a photo of your government-issued ID card to verify your identity." How do I get past this if it's me ordering it for a family member, do they care if it's another family member but using your own ID?
iha ok mut ootko kattonu simpsonit sarjasta jakson himo läski homer :D siinä esiintyy koko simpsonit perhe eli myös bart simpsons homer poika fanit saavat nauraa ja naurattaahan se tietty myös vaikka homerin läski kuteet ja muut :D kannattaa kattoo nopee
You helped me remember that profit is fundamentally worthless if you don't use it for what it is worth. And thank you for describing this episode of The Simpsons, it really is a great episode and deserves that top bunk of popularity.
when flanders failed always makes me cry..loved the way homer gets sad and angry despite causing some of this and jumps into action...he did benefit off it and wish for it but then he decides to fix it despite not having to cause its not really his fault...but he feels guilty because inside hes a good person and could of helped ned's business by recommending it to people who said they needed left handed items...
simpsons being aired in like most countries means it will never die...it still makes billions ..its the biggest worldwide show ever i think.....everyone knows who they are...its like pikachu in the gaming world..everyone knows what pokemon is...
Bro, this was deep. This was a grade A assessment of America at-large. I would kiss you for your brilliance. Your "There will never ever" series is great, but this is on a whole different level of professional product.
to answer you we are America. not a perfect nation but a nation that is to stride to be a more perfect union. Never trust those who think they are perfect everyone has war lords.
Your question of why we like Homer is a little off. I never considered him anything but an example of what was wrong with the passive and uncritical working American. And I never liked him, only occasionally sympathised.
@Ponczos_22 Futurama is a different animal with a different audience. For the most part it lacks subtlety and many of the long running arcs are disappointing.
I would say it's ephemerally fun, but you often have to shut off the party of your brain that would enjoy the subtext in order to keep it there.
Rock Brentwood2022-02-28 02:07:39 (edited 2022-02-28 02:07:59 )
By the way ... 2:13 "Springfield is one of the most common place names in the US". Why is everyone always so predictable on this issue - always missing the same (obvious) thing? The correct take on the issue is: "Springfield is one of the most common place names in the US ... but only in a few states is it near any place called Shelbyville, and only in one or two are both places near the state capital."
Here's the topper - Matt didn't want the whole cast to be named after his family, so he let the writing staff choose Grandpa's name. They ended up choosing Abraham, which also happened to be the name of Matt's grandfather.
@Thot Patrol USA diagnoses u with weetodd syndrone Maybe it's not a specifically British thing but I've only heard Brits say it myself. I also find myself regularly using British spelling though lol.
@JyTV I guess I would say "his parents' names are Homer and Marge" rather than "his parents are named Homer and Marge." But I would say "his parents named him Matt" rather than "his parents called him Matt"
@Sven Bender Heres what makes it even better: Matt Greoning had to name his son Homer after his father responded to the character named after him. Also he came up with the whole family quickly before a board meeting, deciding to name Bart not after himself because of that it probably wouldn't end out well.
A little fun fact: Matt's sister, Maggie Groening actually helped her brother write the Maggie Simpson series of books, the English versions and the Spanish versions.
@aylo ! so I googled "named vs called" and the first result from a dictionary website is "You use called or named when you are giving the name of someone or something. Named is less common than called, and is not usually used in conversation" please get a hobby
@Patrice AQA He created it, he's allowed to destroy it. Like Lucas and Star Wars. Oh then Disney jumped up and down on the corpse... Kind of like the Simpsons????
In a way Homer and grimes are also a nice depiction of how much the economy has changed from the Gen X to the millennial generation. Both working in the same place but one being able to afford to BUY a house and a stay at home wife and kids while the other can't even afford to rent appartment for him self .
I worked with a baby boomer when I graduated from college, at the same position and salary. He once told to me that since the 90's he had not gained any real wealth, only maintained his acquisitive power. I did not get it at the time, but 10 years later I see he was right. At that point, it would take me over 20 years to own a house and car, what the what he was able to buy in his first 5. Even so, probably I would not be able to afford maintenance.
started watching the show for the first time ever a month or so ago now, and one of the first things i asked was "how the fuck does Homer afford all this shit?!"
The fall of the Simpsons is the epitome of “You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” In this case, it’s “you either die fighting the institution or live long enough to see yourself become the institution.”
How about Nietzsche's "To look into the abyss, is to have the abyss look back into you....," and "To hunt monsters is to become a monster..." Paraphrased from my memory.
“The Simpsons made everyone stop to adjust their tv sets, but the picture within was never broken. Everything else around it was.” One of the most thought provoking quotes I have heard in a very long time.
He had me at "What was once the epitome of media counter-culture is now owned by the epitome of the media establishment. In all honesty The Simpsons was never designed to survive until the 21st century. The big media conglomerates just keep it around as a ceremonial token to evoke nostalgia for better times. At this point Homer Simpson has been relegated to a figurehead akin to the like of Mickey Mouse and the Queen of England. "
@Michael Fitzpatrick I don't even know what that comment is meant to infer or evoke, or even mean? Books were the new parchments. As are videos the new books. Times change. There's nothing wrong with taking a philosophical look at a show that quite literally shaped minds and created personalities and traits in people based on a unique appreciation of comedy. A lot of people are who they are today, because of this show.
@Don S Not wading into that debate but the quote is objectively corny and about as deep as a puddle. no disrespect to the jeffman but if this is as good as it gets for him then he's missing out and might benefit from broadening his horizons
@schiggy2319 man where exactly did I say there was anything wrong with preferring videos over books? no they cannot convey the same things, though I would never suggest writing a book about why this particular episode of the simpsons is good.
@Michael Fitzpatrick You've made a claim, I am still waiting for you to present an argument. Because until you present an argument your claim is worth less than the oxygen you breathed to supply your body the life force needed to type it.
@Michael Fitzpatrick Already have. Read The Outsiders, The Giver, To Kill a Mockingbird, Halo Lore Books, I think I've earned the grounds to watch videos, and so have they.
Your interpretation of the “Bowling Alley” moment is honestly amazing and makes that small moment so much more impactful to me. Homer WOULD be impressed by that because that’s the dream he gave up for the good of his family.
imo the “above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley“ line is in the running for the best joke of the show, but then to have homer react in such a simple, character-perfect way, makes it all the better
but that's obviously not the writer's intention. Homer might be impressed, but any sensible person knows that the noise from something like that would make it a terrible place to live. The line reflects Homer's lack of insight into his life, nice as Homer might be about everything.
The episode Bart gets an F had a heavy impact on me as a kid, especially growing up with ADHD.
The part at the end where he just breaks down crying at his desk saying "You dont understand, I really tried this time! I really tried!" Made me cry the first time I saw it. I related so freaking hard because it just took me back to the bad days at my desk.
Days where I didn't just draw in reading class, but actually tried to read like I was supposed to. Reading, and rereading a paragraph over and over but no matter what I did no matter how hard I tried every time I started a new sentence, I couldn't remember the last one so I had to start over, again. And again. And again.
I'd look around and nobody else was having this problem and I was the only one and it made me so frustrated and angry because I knew I was smart, I chose this book, I'm so smart I know what all the words mean! I can read so well but I don't understand why I can't do this right now!! and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't do it.
And in that episode where Bart was going through the same thing I went through just hit me so hard. I don't think there's a single episode, especially not past season 7, that ever hit me that hard again.
That, and the teacher was still a teacher, she wasn't as cartoonishly disillusioned as she became in later seasons. She actually patted him on the back and comforted a crying child who was struggling to learn in her class. That added another layer of realism to it. Where the teacher is a human being that cares, but doesn't necessarily know how to help and doesn't have the energy to go out of her way to get him the resources he actually needs.
His parents don't know what ADHD is and don't know how to help him. All of these aspects contributed to one of the most perfect scenes in the Simpsons, in my opinion.
At the end of the episode, the situation may have been resolved but the main issue that made it hard for him to do it in the first place, wasn't resolved. There was no wave of the magic wand and his studying issue were fixed. It's something you learn how to live with.
There's more resources now, but back then in the early 2000s this is were ADHD kids were stuck. In that state of not knowing why. Even if you're lucky and get medication like I did, nobody ever taught me how my disorder effected my day to day life. Because that's all I'd ever known, I thought it was normal.
Nobody taught me anything about the day to day things you have to do to cope with your ADHD and function in a way that can keep up with everyone else. I thought I just took my meds, and it made my ADHD go away. So a lot of issues that effected me to my core and my self esteem, could have been so much less painful if I had known then what I do now. But I didn't know then, and neither did Bart.
At the end of the episode, even if it didn't give me answers or solutions, at the very least, it made me feel like I wasn't alone. And I respect the hell out of it for that.
Dude, you're something, that episode about Bart also made me tear up. Although I didn't like how they undermined the gravity of that scene with a lame joke in the end. Anyway, thanks for sharing this.
If i watched the simpsons i probably would have reacted the same, my goal like any person with ADHD is just to cope with it, learn to pick up habits that let me be productive in spite of it. Holy fuck are the days where i get everything i set out to do done so rewarding, the burst of dopamine is something so nice. (for those who dont know ADHD interrupts normal dopamine reward path ways, which often leads to kids with it seeking easy dopamine and thus higher obesity rates as sugary food is free dopamine)
I'm sorry and I get that this is kinda rude sounding, but... can you please make this spaced out into paragraphs? My brain can't comprehend walls of text very well
That episode hit me hard too, if you tried or didn't try it seemed like the outcome was the same and the backlash for not doing the thing made life a living hell
@winlars Exactly! Expecially when they'd get mad if I had to ask them to repeat what they said multiple times. That was the worst! I if I didn't catch it the second time, I just didn't get to learn that part that day.
@Aldia, Scholar of the first sin I think that's a fair perspective. Being neuroatypical is something that makes me unique and it makes me think differently and have a different perspective on things. It doesn't mean it doesn't cause a lot of stress and makes day to day functioning more difficult. But despite it all, if I had the option to be neurotypical, I still think I'd prefer myself as I am. Cause I like who I am, even if it can be hard sometimes.
@ProjectPhantomEden413 A deaf person will never be able to experience music the same way i do, that is not the same as having some kind of unique personality, they lack something fundamental that almost all people have.
You are different from that obviously but similar in the way that you will never be able to enjoy certain things that i and most people enjoy and it's not truly YOUR choice to not enjoy these things, you were born in a way that stops you from enjoying they, you didn't had the chance.
This is definitely a offensive opinion to these groups, you can go ahead and get pissed with me if you desire but i think people should stop with this modern propaganda that disabilities are not a problem.
With future advancements in transhumanism and other scientific areas we may end up finding a cure to those things but the problem is that by then, almost everyone will not want to be cured.
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jerry coob2022-05-01 00:38:19 (edited 2022-05-01 00:38:47 )
Speaking as an ADHD teen, that is one one of the most resonant things I have ever read in my life.
The amazing thing about The Simpsons is that even if it has 30 years of garbage, that 10 years of high quality will be what most remember for coming generations.
@Plaha Kumar 1998 Sure, but that doesn't mean you can't appreciate it for what it *was*. In my opinion, people too easily let sequels, remakes, or far-too-long runtimes ruin their enjoyment of what they loved originally.
@Plaha Kumar 1998 An empty hollow shell is what the Simpsons are now. Even the movie sucked and that was very long ago. They should have ended before the movie.
30 years of garbage means every episode 1991 or after (because of the comment’s age) would suck lmao
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adam marano2021-09-06 01:47:01 (edited 2022-04-22 16:58:25 )
I think the thing with Grimes that makes him so relatable is something a bit closer to our Id: it isn't the lack of fairness, we know the world isn't fair and things happen for no reason, it's the lack of JUSTICE in Grimes' life that we ultimately relate to. It's one thing to luck into an acting career, or have wealthy parents who can fund your future success (whether you still have to work for it or not,) but Americans are told and can objectively see that hard work and persistence pays off. Grimes worked his tail off to gain the American Dream, and despite doing everything he's "supposed" to do, he never got. I don't think Grimes would be jealous of Homer, or even as angry at his laziness if he had actually achieved ANYTHING that he had worked towards. A decent home or a loving family or SOMETHING. But he got screwed hard despite all his efforts. Getting stuck in the rain trying to chase your dog is something that we can get over. Getting soaked every day despite doing everything you can to stay dry for your entire adult life? Can't blame the guy for being bitter..
@Fabian Lopez that's a nice sentiment. People don't really choose to be bitter. It's a slow descent that most people acknowledge is an issue and try to correct/get past. If things work out, great. Dark period of your life. Good conversation material for close friends. If they don't, it just heaps. It's a lot like depression in that way. People get so stuck that they become "comfortable" in their despair: it's their default at this point, and it will take a cosmic re-correction to pull a person out of that spiral. The cure for this kind of bitterness and despair is a monumental turn of good luck or things to go "like they should" for a while to restore hope.
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New Decade2022-04-30 00:56:48 (edited 2022-04-30 00:58:14 )
@adam marano I know this reply was for someone else but, the thing you said about breaking out of depression with a long period of luck made me remember how I experienced the same thing. And now I’m struggling with rough times and things feel hopeless again but what if, just what if I was able to convince myself things were actually going super great for a while? Maybe I’d stop being stuck in the “comfort” in the cycle of depression as you stated earlier. I also want to convince someone else of the same thing. This comment opened my eyes once again so thank you!! I know it’ll be hard but if I see this period of good luck going forward, I’ll be sure not to miss it
@New Decade emp made a very nice point having a nice balance the reason why homer ssucsesseds is because he's a genuinely nice guy throughout his rough exterior he has a heart
I don't know if anyone's touched on this but, one thing that truly makes this episode great is how it doesn't make Homer the cause of Grimes' undoing. Everything Grimes does after Homer takes his advice to heart is entirely HIS doing. He's the one who can't accept Homer's good-hearted attempt, he's the one trying to make Homer look stupid in front of people who really don't care, He's the one who has an extreme meltdown and he's the one who touched those high voltage chords. Grimes' bitterness and refusal to accept change is what ultimately brings his downfall.
@name they always come in leaving allmost all the time these empty unrelated comments to the video that aren't even funny or remotely usefull. Then they get upvotes from sheep fans just because they watch them and leave these awfull stupid reply's like: HuH? WhaT ArE YoU DoIng HeRE? As if it is not normal that other people watch video's to. And they don't even reply to anything said under they'r comment making it double useless as it shows they simply don't care. ThAt's WheRe ThEY T0uCH Me.
Mr. Fancypants I actually do read the replies to my comments and reply to them, but usually when I get notifications. Just thought it was an interesting thing to point out, wasn’t trying to be funny or useful. Have been watching EmpLemon’s videos for years, just don’t comment on them often
it takes longer to analyze the episode than to watch it. its kinda like instant reply in sports. each play takes about 3 seconds. but with slow motion, different angles and conflicting opinions it takes 5 minutes to analyze it.
here's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
@Loopy Loon ... i disagree. lisa simpson IS the conscience of the family AND the town. if you think people who expose the flaws and corruption in society as "little know it alls" you have a serious problem accepting reality. if you think intelligence is a form of self-righteousness your problem is accepting whatever lies the "authority" tells you. lisa's insecurity comes from the fact that she's right, keeps being proven right but her wisdom is routinely ignored and marginalized.
its the old "kill-the-messenger" syndrome that inflicts people whenever their inaccurate and skewed world view is challenged and corrected. if humanity could be divided into the idiosyncrasies of the various characters of that tv show. I AM DEFINITELY A "LISA" and damned proud of it.
@c. j. macq I beg to differ, Lisa is only the conscience of the show in the sense that the show itself won't acknowledge her own hypocrisy. In one episode, Lisa made a present for Homer's birthday & got upset when Homer didn't appreciate her gift, she is treated as justified in this attitude even after she projects her frustration with Homer onto Martin, Skinner, & men as a whole, the onus is placed on Homer to make amends, he is held responsible for her outburst, & yet she got upset that a relatively average middle aged man didn't appreciate a book filled with drawings of unicorns. Now consider that in a previous episode, Homer got Lisa birthday gifts that included a tape demonstrating his ignorance of her personality & a whole chicken, she got upset that Homer's gifts weren't all that thoughtful & Homer hired a private detective in an effort to learn what interests Lisa so he can make amends. In both episodes, the roles are reversed, & yet Lisa is in the right in both instances, because she is Lisa. There are several episodes where Bart finds a calling, in one he takes up drumming & is shown to be good enough to play professionally, Lisa is upset because Bart "stole" jazz from her, she can't be happy for Bart's success, & when Bart is injured because she hid a tiger in the attic, & can no longer play, he gives up on reconstructive surgery to regain his lost talent for the sake of appeasing Lisa's jealousy, in another episode Bart becomes a hall monitor & gains the approval of his family & school, & gives it up for the sake of protecting Lisa when she did something wrong, both these instances are treated as heartwarming, & not indicators of the toxic relationship between the two that sees Bart fall for Lisa's sake, but when Lisa copies Bart's mannerisms for the sake of making friends during the family's stay in Flanders' summer house & Bart responds by pointing out her duplicity, he's treated as being in the wrong & she is forgiven, because she is Lisa. In many episodes she's shown to be down right manipulative, taking advantage of Bart developing an attachment to a cow to push vegetarianism, or preying on Todd's crisis of faith to proselytize for Buddha, yet these underhanded tactics are played for laughs when in the episode in which she converted to Buddhism, her family trying to get her to celebrate Christmas is treated seriously by her & is only resolved when the guest star tells her she can have both her Christmas presents & Buddha's preaching of moderation, because she is Lisa. Lisa must be preserved & can not be allowed to demonstrate fault because she is not meant to be a relatable character, only a mouthpiece, she is right in the context of her setting because the setting was written by people who hold her positions, she is always right, because she is Lisa.
@c. j. macq I could go on, you know. Remember the episode where Lisa thinks Maggie is smarter than her? Yeah, Lisa tries to sabotage her & runs away, but instead of actually learning some humility, she's responsible for resolving the danger her family finds itself in trying to find her & is ultimately proven to have been responsible for Maggie's success in the beginning, because she is Lisa. Or maybe we could consider the episode where Lisa's sad because a teacher won't let her play the music she wants to play on the time he gets paid to teach children the fundamentals, & Lisa is treated as being in the right for wanting to do what she wants to do regardless of the setting, because she is Lisa. Or perhaps we might think about the episode where the family celebrates Bart getting an A at a restaurant & all Lisa can think about is how her parents, who already are shown to favor her, don't shower her with even more praise for always getting A's, it doesn't occur to her how her parents might want to encourage the child who has always struggled to succeed, but alas, the parents praise is portrayed as overblown for the sake of making Lisa seem justified, because she is Lisa.
The reason why the video is almost twice as long is because there’s pointless information explaining what the Simpsons is and how it got started when It could have just start at what grimes and homer could or is symbolized
@Loopy Loon so how the show was created and matt groening’s life story is important information in homer’s enemy and why there won’t be an episode like it
@Loopy Loon ok tell me what’s important about knowing how the show was created and knowing matt groening’s life that has something directly to do with homer’s enemy that we already didn’t know
@Mario gaming Mario0318 Matt Groening's upbringing directly influenced his creations, as is the case for most artists, Emp brought up his intentions for the show's characters in the show's inception in order to contrast the show's initial depiction of the characters with how they had evolved leading up to Homer's Enemy.
The Simpsons achieve the american dream as Homer geting paid for nothing, they are geting money for a not that good seasons, and as it was said here, THEY ARE HEROS for being able to be release bad episodes and still get a ton of money, life isn't fair but as FOX we have to take advantage of the stablishmemnt, some of us like the simpsons now should stop being hard working like Frank Grimes and become more like Homer.
@Mr. Fancypants I'm with you, I don't mind checkmark comments if they're funny. But the problem is 90% of them aren't funny or original and they are automatically promoted to the top of comments so they get more likes and hide the better comments. Plus most of them just spam stuff for promotion.
I went into this expecting a basic Simpsons analysis. I walked out with a much higher appreciation for an episode I already loved and a better sense of self-worth and understanding about myself. Great work.
Its understable why alot of us are like Grimes especially when you see a straight up child bearly out elementary making more money then you could in 10 years
@tsuki this attempt at a sense of justice is a cop out. The justification of suffering feels very religious dogma. Growing and "learning" from suffering means nothing to an ordinary person. By that logic, then those starving kids in impoverished villages in africa would have grown and achieved enlightenment. They didn't.
The Simpson could still be a great show if they had keep true to themselves instead of cannibalising their own humor. If the show had depicted the Simpsons getting old and had no shame to mock todays bullshit I really think they could be a great show even today. What is really lost is the boldness of the show nowadays no one would dare to mock the real nonsense and to point to how the systemic problems the Simpsons pointed during the 90s had gone out of control today. Boldness and truthfulness that's why the Simpsons are dead today.
Meh, The Simpsons was never a show where any real storylines progressed or time elapsed. Characters and character traits would be developed but nothing really ever changed. There was never a need for a formal ending to tie it all together.
In a way Homer's enemy was the show's ending, The Simpsons spent nearly a decade spoofing and deconstructing sitcoms, American culture, and the television industry in and of itself, so much so that for it's final hoorah the Simpsons deconstructed itself, like emplemon talks about in the video. the episode also mentions multiple episodes from the past, like Homer going into space, and meeting President Ford, and includes a wide variety of characters. Had this been the ending of the show it would've been a really perfect one actually.
@InformerMaz people forget that 0-100 was the first century. some people go from 100-200 when counting because of that. including me sometimes. it's a fair mistake imho
At this point I want to see the series continue because at this point, if it got any worse it wouldent matter, the shows about 20 seasons past its prime so why stop now, I want to see that big 50 season marker
Oddly enough, the show aired the perfect ending: season 11's "Behind the Laughter." The quality of the show had significantly dipped, but not so badly that it had reached zombie status (at least I don't think so). Having this meta look at the history of the show treating the characters as actors is really the best way to end a show like this. It's even sadder to realize that was OVER TWENTY YEARS AGO!
But you have to love the fact that they fulfilled the gag Bart said - they played a part of it - Bart: Dad, why are the endig the Cosby Series? Dad: Because they want to go out on top. Bart: To hell wit that. If I had a series, I'd milk it for all its worth. And they did.
I never knew "Homer's Enemy" was rated so highly. That might explain the move to make that version of Homer the basis for his normal character. Of course, that ignores the fact Homer's flaws are exaggerated for the sake of the story, so they work in that context, but too many people don't realize that fact.
3:16 Huh. I never knew Evergreen Terrace had any significance. That's pretty neat.
10:12 It should be noted that while Groening, Brooks, and Simon were officially the showrunners of season 2, Al Jean and Mike Reiss were given more control as the season went on, being the unofficial showrunners for at least a handful of episodes.
It's easy to underestimate how different the Simpsons was in tone to other shows at the time. Even Married... with Children, which also was pretty over-the-top, stuck mostly to unironic low-brow humor, and seemed almost reactionary compared to the Simpsons' subversive edge. I remember some of my friend's parents not letting us watch it in their homes, and we were teenagers at the time, not unsupervised toddlers.
But this episode in particular kind of shocked me, especially the ending. The Simpsons didn't usually end on such a cynical note, and never quite went that dark before. Today it would be completely normal programming, but I was honestly taken aback the first time I saw it. Still one of my favs though!
I’m about 26 minutes in and I am blown away by this analysis. I usually skipped past rewatching this episode of the show and didn’t think too deeply about it. But…wow. This idea/obsession I’ve had from time to time regarding “fairness” and effort leading to reward I think has been something truly holding me back. Or at least keeping me in a negative headspace. Never thought this episode would cause me to get introspective! Such a fantastic video! Can’t wait to watch the rest.
My family and I loved this episode. Maybe it was due to the fact that we are south americans, we are living in a place that is more Springfield that the Simpsons' Springfield. Most of us have seen people like Frank Grimes become bitter, resentful or even mad. At least here in Paraguay, one can't live without being at least a bit like Homer. I am not saying that we are all incompetent, lazy and stupid like him, but that we sometimes have to accept that the world (especially our countries) is unfair and, above all, we have to care for our family and our beloved ones. It is that attitude that helps us to build homes just as warm and united as the ones in the sitcoms that the Simpsons originally parodied.
The line in Homer's Enemy that always hit me the hardest was "Frank Grimes, or 'Grimey' as he liked to be called..." A final insult, to be diametrically misrepresented in death. As someone who is frequently misunderstood in life, that line hurts my soul.
My favorite is when Frank Grimes says "Oh, I'm better than okay. I'm Homer Simpson!" and then Homer says "Ha! You Wish!". He can see that this man is having a horrible mental breakdown, but he is STILL extremely rude and casual.
@PatchCornAdams723 Thing is, he probably didn't see him having a breakdown. Same way he didn't see that Grimes didn't like him and was annoyed by him. He probably thought that Grimes was just being Grimes, maybe making a joke he couldn't understand.
I've always wondered if this was referencing The Unbearable Lightness of Being, in which lifelong atheist Tomas is buried under the headstone 'he wanted the Kingdom of Heaven on earth' by his estranged, Christian son.
@Mileta Rien Believe it or not, that actually happened to the father of a friend of mine. Despite that he was an atheist, in his funeral he was buried under a christian cross, while his son was crying and begging for they to remove it..
It's the cruellest moment of an already cruel episode. Any respect for Grimes in death is unfairly taken away from him by the people he hated in life. It's so delightfully dark.
I used to be a Frank Grimes, working hard every day until one day I realised that I get paid the same shitty wage as people who do the bare minimum with no chance of raises and no recognition for my effort. So I embraced the Homer lifestyle. Started pulling night shifts, letting things slide, putting in the bare minimum I needed to keep things moving.
3 months late but i feel this so incredibly hard. The boss pays me too little for me to put in more than the bare minimum...and i am VERY creative at shaving down what that bare minimum entails
Nothing surprising there. People who do the bare minimum are usually happy. Your excuse is that you used to work hard (doubt it as people who really make an effort don't change because others don't) so you justify being lazy. Letting things slide is never acceptable for pilots or doctors or engineers. But you're just perpetuating the cycle and complaining that people are just like you.
@internalhabaneros hahaha there are a lot of "doctors" that perform half-ass procedures, engineers that ive met who dont know a thing they are doing, and pilots that mess up. Oh and im an Engineer as well. Put in the bare minimum and living the best life.
I feel like I’ve always seen grimes in a bit of a different light. I never connected with homer anywhere near the level that is implied in this video, and Grimes felt more relatable in his ideals (being rewarded for actual work). I never felt like either of them were an antagonist tho, more like Homer was a symptom spawned by the antagonist, and grimes fails to realise who he’s actually supposed to be fighting.
Being upset at a symptom of a greater wrong is understandable and even relatable, but unless you try to combat the source, it’s not helpful. Grime’s downfall is that he has a reason to rebel against the system, which to me felt like another commentary on modern day america
Homer is both a cause and a symptom. It is like with the "war on drugs". You can target dealers, but customers will ensure there are always more dealers. You can target customers, but dealers will always try to find ways to make new customers. Some businesses take advantage of their employees, and employees conform to that. Other businesses are unwilling to trust or reward their employees because there are so many slackers out there.
Also, separate from all that, I think one who sees the beauty in taking pride in one's character, and living a life that might be likened to a work of art or a finally crafted machine... such cannot feel anything but disgust when faced by those that aspire to nothing higher than a bag of cheetos. And worse if the world heaps praise and reward on the latter. It is all at once an affront to beauty, an unfair reward, and a rejection by society.
frank grimes...also showcased the failure of going blindly over looking at the bigger picture, the american dream isn't just about doing your best BUT also taking opportunities, he could have easely learned how homer does to live such a good life, become friend with him and finally get out of his poor situation but instead, he let himself be consumed by envy and let it destroy him
I think an all time great Simpsons episode is "Homer the Heretic," an episode that points out the hypocrisy of religion in America, but it does so in such a way that it doesn't shove the answer down the throat of the audience, instead leaving it to the audience to decide what the right way to go should be. Yes, forcing someone to practice a religion is wrong, but equally if they want to practice a religion, there's nothing wrong with them dojng so, within reason
I feel like a lot of people see Grimes as being “right” in this episode. But once you realize he too is wrong, the blame is not on Homer but on the systems that created both their situations, that’s when you get it.
@Dynamite Grizzly I mean, I didn’t mean to say that the episode necessarily intended Grimes to be in the wrong. I don’t know the creators’ intentions. My comment is more about interpretation than intention.
@Garfield And he'd be wrong for doing so. It's like asking why fast food workers think they deserve 15$ while EMTs barely make more instead of asking why EMTs are making that little to begin with.
@Garfield That’s possible. Under that interpretation, I’d actually be more inclined to think even less of Grimes, being that his anger is not only misguided, it’s downright silly. If he falsely blamed Homer for his issues, it’d make sense that he’s taking it out ON Homer. But if he doesn’t, him being so angry at Homer all the time is just kinda mean.
Renegade Cut has an amazing video on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40sJOkxnac He looks at the episode more from a class struggle perspective. I think people who think Grimes is right also forget that Homer had to give up his dreams to take a job he hates, in order to support his family. And he originally got into nuclear energy to begin with because he got the message society was broadcasting: Go into STEM. Nuclear energy is the future. Homer was a musician and bowling alley owner, both jobs he'd rather be doing and has more of a motivation to do. Running a power plant is arguably more useful, but it's not what Homer was meant for. Grimes is that insufferable person that always lectures you about bootstraps.
@Afqwa Also, building on RC's point that this episode really missed an opportunity for it to turn out that Burns was pitting Grimes against Homer to distract him from the fact he demoted Grimes because he saw him as a threat to his position of power (using the divide and rule tactic is definitely something Burns would do). Plus I think Lisa could really have ripped into Grimes after his tirade towards Homer by telling him his Randroid, "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality is a load of shit.
@Jack Monaghan I sort of don’t like the idea of Burns intentionally doing so, I honestly like how he doesn’t give a damn about Grimes, he’s the one still in power with a town of stereotypical idiots. If he did felt threatened by Grimes then he would’ve just not let him work at his factory or fire him for “certain circumstances”
@Loco Madman He should be free to search for his happiness where he wants just like Homer but the problem is that both have been put in a spot by institutions to be somewhere unpleasant in their eyes. Grime’s true problem is his obsession with having to gain that which he desires, and not practicing the detachment which Homer does. Less related; In a way this connects to a religious aspect look up Thomas Aquinas interpretation of the Beatitudes if you have any time.
@Wojtek Earl Gray I’ll definitely look into it; thank you. And I do totally get the thesis, it’s entirely valid in fact.
Yet that said, as Emp here himself pointed; he never stopped for a moment to truly appreciate the fact the Homer envied Grimes’ life.
The question here, at its core, is it really the institution, or Frank allowing himself to become institutionalized? A gun to one’s head still leaves the person with a choice.
(And forgive the embarrassing over share, but I just got off a week of “Grain & Drain” if you don’t already know, don’t ask because not only am I Canadian, I’m a treaty status Native Cree; quite frankly, I’d rather get taken out behind the tool shed than even bend the knee.)
@Afqwa Really, I think people forget this. Homer comes from a broken, unstable family where he was told repeatedly that he was a failure who would never amount to anything. When he's presented with a huge responsibility like being a father and husband, he does his absolute best. He gives up on his dreams for Marge and his kids. He forces himself to be successful so he can give his family what he didn't have.
But who created the system? The people did. This is especially true in a capitalist democracy. People choose their leaders. People choose what companies manufacture based on what they buy.
Afqwa to be honest, i feel like that video takes too much of homer’s side. both people are flawed- homer is exploiting the system, but he’s doing so unintentionally while putting lives at risk because he genuinely doesn’t know how to do his job. frank is also a downtrodden working class man, but he’s so obsessed with the idea of fairness that he lets it overtake his life. neither really have any awareness about /why/ they’re in the situations they’re in. i completely agree with the op- it’s not about who’s right, it’s about the way the system created two completely different, flawed people and put them at odds. they both have to take responsibility for their choices, but they both came from the same place (they even both have tragic pasts), and the same class. and that’s what i think is most interesting about this episode.
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Loco Madman2021-03-03 20:37:30 (edited 2021-03-03 21:00:39 )
@randomguy9777 Now wait a minute, be fair here; How systems are created is a semantic chicken-or-the-egg debate, but institutionalization can’t 100% be removed from the equation here. I’m sure you’ve heard of the saying, “It doesn’t matter who anyone votes for, the government always gets in”.
But you do almost hit the point right on the head.
This is going to a hella dated reference, but there’s a quote I like to keep tucked up my sleeve for occasions like this, something I’ve adopted into my own personal philosophy;
“I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death.” - Denis Leary as Edgar Friendly, Demolition Man
Gun to your head, you still have a choice.
Another way of looking at it? I’m not even going to copy it fully here; we’ve all watched V for Vendetta, and I hope we’ve all taken Valerie’s Letter to heart:
“Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch.
But one.
An inch.
It is small and it is fragile, and it is the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.
I hope that - whoever you are - you escape this place. I hope that the world turns, and that things get better.
But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may not meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you: I love you.
@toontunes The reality is that Frank is also working in a dangerous workplace. The show repeatedly shows that the safety standards of the plant aren't really all that great to begin with. There's a skit where a fire drill results in absolute incompetence throughout the plant. Acid is also something that normally shouldn't be sitting around in a break room. Homer's cartoonish incompetence aside.
This isn't just a thing isolated to Homer or can be solely made out to be an issue of personal virtue.
You say Homer should say take personal responsibility and that's my point. Homer has tried to do that to the best of his ability. He's not a smart man, but he made a decision that he thought was best for his family. It's not that he made a conscious decision to stick it to the man, he just chose what he thought was the best shot at stability. "Do it for her."
I'm not taking sides with Homer against Grimes. The whole point is that Homer doesn't see Grimes as an enemy to begin with. It's Grimes who decided that's what Homer should be.
Afqwa i completely agree with that last point- homer does actively try to be nice to frank despite the comedic mishaps and such, and it’s on frank that he didn’t accept that outcome. i guess i just read your comment/that video more as a reading of homer’s actions as a conscious choice, and i wanted to offer my own thoughts on the matter. i hope i didn’t seem like i was specifically picking on you, though! i just remembered watching that video a while back as a huge fan of this episode, and ended up being disappointed just because in my opinion it seemed to paint both characters as something i didn’t really see them as. but i’m glad someone can appreciate it and we can both see each other’s points :)
@Afqwa sorry for cutting in; the “Do it for her” episode might very well be my favourite Simpsons episode, hands down. It mysteriously gets dusty in whatever room room I watch it in whenever I catch it; it’s just the strangest thing! 😅
@KingOfTheRevolution - to younger people it has to be the system's fault. When you get old enough you realize the system is made up of people just like you.
I used to hate the A plot of this episode. I was one of those ones Matt talks about in the director''s commentary. This video blew my mind and helped me to get it.
@Afqwa > Grimes is that insufferable person that always lectures you about bootstraps.
I have not watch the episode but is "bootstraps" ever mentioned or is it just something you are using to describe Grimes? It isn't a very good "description" IMHO since it's kind of a right wing saying.
Grimes leans more to the left IMHO given his obsession with "fairness" and what Homer "deserves". From Grimes' perspective, Homer is a "fat cat" that somehow failed upwards to his position of comfort and material wealth - of course from Homer's perspective, his job is what he reluctantly do to support his family because he is trapped; with his dream lifestyle ironically being what Grimes has (if other comments are right).
IMHO what makes Grimes insufferable is his fixation on what other people like Homer has instead of not giving a shit and just worrying about improving his own lot.
@randomguy9777 The right are the ones who focus on personal responsibility as a fundamental value. If Grimes were meant to be left he'd be putting the blame with the institutions, not Homer.
Grimes is someone who was probably raised on that 80s Reagan era family values, American dream stuff, and is just realising it's bullshit, but doesn't understand why.
@Esteban De La Sexface The left doesn’t just blame institutions though, they blame the rich. And in a way, when they blame institutions, they are really blaming the current people in power aka “the establishment”.
Focusing on the inequality of outcomes and looking for a scapegoat is what the left does and is exactly what Grimes did.
Matt Gilbert2021-03-04 21:24:04 (edited 2021-03-04 21:25:36 )
@randomguy9777 That doesn't really line up with serious Leftist analysis, certainly not the element of "blame" - that's radlib stuff. A serious critique of Capitalism often leads to the conclusion that it's bad for everyone - including the rich. They are miserable, I tells ya.
Grimes comes off like an angry Ayn Rand fan to me.
@Matt Gilbert you haven’t been paying attention to the left recently - the far left any way; the centrist are just trying to keep the country in one piece.
No when you realize they're both wrong, you tell them what they could do to grow and not give vague meaningless platitudes as an excuse for doing nothing.
@N S Which isn’t a bad idea. It will require more thought than I’ve seen most people give it, however. Like, “to each according to his need.” It’s been established medically that many recreational and “luxury” things have health benefits and can be more important than many give them credit for, but how do we establish what qualifies as need? How can we quantify what may be a frivolity for one may be a much needed method of relation for another who “needs” it? I don’t pose these questions to claim answering them is impossible, but just to address things to consider which have not been resolved. Similarly, how do we quantify ability? Obviously working people as much as physically possible is terrible for health and cruel to practice, but even with well regulated working practices, there is the question of disability. The benefits of the system you (or Marx) proposed mean us with disabilities are still given what we need to live, so long as we put in the effort. But how can we actually tell when someone is putting in effort? Perhaps it’s simple case-by-case moderation of workers and mental health check-ups, but I know from experience us with invisible illnesses can be told we’re not doing our best when we are, simply because our ability can fluctuate day to day. Conversely, there’s also those who will quit early because they underestimate their own ability. Of course the latter isn’t such a harmful risk that it necessitates the former, but it’s a risk nonetheless. It is the ideal and is not impossible, but there are hurdles to that system that much be taken down properly if it is to be implemented.
yeah....there's an aspect to this episode that goes really deep....very existential....you can do all good and all right seemingly,i suppose,and STILL get screwed over...and then there are people...who are like....agents of chaos....just making things worse...and they seemingly run into good fortune....and it's like...what's up with that?...where's the justice?...why is that allowed to happen in our reality?....is that fair?...and if it's not....why is it still allowed to happen?...what's the point of trying to play the game if the game is rigged?...it may be subtext,but it's in there,and it's actually very serious....much deeper than the comedy on the surface...your comment is a good one....i just watched the episode...it was fantastic...but somewhere in the back of my mind...i said (too bad he had to die......was'nt really a bad dude at all.....homer's done way worse..) ....but this was at the back of my head,behind all the laughs..i had'nt really formed it into a thought until i read your comment......what kills me is that Grimes does'nt realize the ONLY reason why Homer gets away with ANY of it,is because Homer is the LEAD CHARACTER in a COMEDIC cartoon that Grimes himself is a part of.....Grimes does'nt realize that cartoon physics and logic are at work....and that Homer MUST be potrayed the hero no matter what....because HE'S the star of the show...Grimes does'nt know that the more he complains about homer the more it will help homer because those are the rules in a cartoon....Grimes does'nt see these things.....but he knows something is wrong with that picture....and it just does'nt add up....and he's right....Homer's an idiot...not a bad person...just an idiot...and very careless......watching grimes' struggle in this,is like watching one of those old twilight zone episodes...where it's scary because the guy in the story realizes that the world around him isn't quite right..and he can't convince anyone else...which is actually horror...like william shatner trying to convince eveyone that there was a monster on the wing of the plane....there's an aspect of that here in gimes' story...and it actually makes it unusual,uncomfortable and sad.....you realize this guy is going through a horror story of his own with a terrible ending for the sake of what....ME and YOU laughing at Matt Groening's writing brought to you by FOX?.....so has has to die now?....so we can laugh?....he lost his life for that?...he went crazy for that?...poor guy...that ain't cool...he was right about homer...where's the justice?.....ultimately you might as well question everything....what's the point?...too deep?....not really since that's exactly what's really going on in this episode between the two main characters............yeah...brilliant episode
@TETCOM Oh, yes that “Nightmare At 20,000 Feet” comparison is rather apt! Honestly I didn’t laugh a lot in that episode, I enjoyed it but more in a fascination sort of way. Your meta analysis is interesting, of course this episode begs to be analyzed from a socio-political lens, but the core of the episode being “if a man from the real world met Homer who is a cartoon character” I think is often quickly forgotten beyond cursory mentions
@N S Maybe, but think about it in the context of the episode. Grimes has the ability, and Homer with his family to care for has his needs. I can't imagine too much changing outside of Homer's living situation getting worse, as the luxuries are stripped away. Grimes' doesn't necessarily get better, and he is still envious of Homer's past accomplishments, familial love, etc. Grimes won't stop until Homer is destroyed, and by having that attitude destroyed himself.
@David Black I haven’t been here in a while, and simply do not have the time to read the previous messages for that I apologize, in case you had corroborated previously your point. Anyways I disagree with words illusion, if anything it seems like an illusion to believe you can see (truthfully) culture and identity without your own. All of us are not independent fully but are part of an identity and culture. To try and look at any culture or system outside of your own lenses would be like saying your can see the world better without your glasses 👓. The right action is to address that fact and be knowledgeable about any biases you may commit or ways in which you may misinterpret things do to your own point of view(for example you could stand from a place where it looks like it was one person who started the fight when it truly was the other) still you should be truthful, compassionate, understanding, and descriptive as much as you can, acknowledging your limits. Just because I can’t see the moon with my glasses doesn’t mean I can’t see the sky very clearly. Correct me if I am wrong but contemporary thinkers like Heidegger, Charles Taylor, and Wittgenstein have given arguments of this sort. Sorry for writing so much and I hope I was as insightful as possible. Have a good day 😊 cheerio! (Also not to you, but thanks to the OG maker of this comments for having the most civil comment sections I have ever seen)
No system is perfect and Grimes' insistence that it gives him "what he deserves" drives him to madness. Detachment and contentedness are highly important.
I think people look at the conflict and think way too deep into it. It is literally Homer meeting Homer. Season 1 Homer meets Season 8 Homer. The downtrodden man from a broken home who has to struggle to make ends meet and envies everyone around him meets the well off man who lives a care free life that worries about blundering a family interaction. I imagine the writers were watching some of the earlier episodes and that was the inspiration. Homer became the very thing he hated much like how the Simpsons did. Go back and watch the first Christmas Episode or the Therapist episode to see where Frank Grimes comes from. That's the main thrust of the episode. It's the writers acknowledging that the Simpsons has become the establishment.
One question I have to ask here: Who is more at fault here? Homer for being an incompetent idiot at his work while Grimes is overworked and underpaid? Or is it his business for being selective over who gets paid more based on their position? Does Grimes even have a right to be mad at Homer for this?
I've honestly watched this video at least once a month or so, sometimes multiple time a week, ever since I've discovered it. I love the pursue of observing things , bringing them to the outside world and then back into their native medium, and I feel like this video does exactly that. Thank you for this.
Watching the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons years later, is a real eye opener. As a kid I saw it as amazing entertainment. The messages delivered as an adult in it are outstanding! God bless Homer Simpson
Perhaps it's just because this has been thoroughly stuck in my mind for the last little while, but thinking about it, Frank Grimes really reminds me of Kaworu Nagisa from Neon Genesis Evangelion: another similar character who appears in precisely one episode of his original show, changes the way its audience perceives its main character, and who's death completely alters the show's course of direction - plunging it into a downward spiral, if you will.
As An (american] Georgian im not a city folk cant confirm or deny if neither the state nor country of georgia is hell or not all i know is stalin is georgian
This was unironically one of the greatest episodes of Vsauce ever made.
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The Nerd Beast2021-03-06 23:54:36 (edited 2021-03-11 05:51:07 )
Funnily enough the Simpsons has outlived its relevancy by so long, it almost represents an ideal life. Homer has job security in a well paying job and a huge house, things the average family would kill for now. Before the Simpsons were supposed to represent dysfunction and barely able to scrape by, now they practically live in luxury.
Honestly by today we should be at the point they keep previewing in future episodes, except most portrayals of Lisa being successful are probably highly inaccurate. Their first portrayal of her future self might be the most accurate one of all. And Maggie wouldn't be a famous rock star, she would be a YouTube vlogger with a silver play button.
As a GenX'er I will say that this was ideal life then and now - Parents married, mom's cooking breakfast, bills get paid, family has 2 cars, some pets... It was just the personalities and situations that pushed the envelope back then. They weren't the Cosby's. But none of us were.
@emiliano zamora I mean even this whole episode admits "The Simpsons have it pretty good." Early on they didn't have much discretionary income but their house was nice and the neighborhood seemed safe. Possibly because there's only like eight criminals in the whole town.
The Simpsons don't live in luxury. By today's standards, they have a wonderfully comfy life as a member of the lower-mid middle class, but that doesn't qualify as "living in luxury."
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The Nerd Beast2021-03-24 20:54:56 (edited 2021-03-24 20:55:04 )
@Lucious Thus the word "practically" its an exaggeration for the sake of humor
@bill Smyth it already exists. its a drug to slow aging, supposedly. I aint saying anything concrete about it since I don't know much, but its sold rather quietly if it IS still sold, and to rather wealthy and influential people.
@Lucious You mean upper-mid. If you think lower-middle class, single income nuclear families with three children can afford a two-story house in Oregon, and without dealing with a mortgage?
This is a profoundly insightful statement about the deterioration of America in the last 30 years. For the Simpson to be accurate and relevant today, Homer and Marge would be divorced and unemployed, Lisa in 200K of student debt and Bart would be addicted to Oxycontin. Sad but true.
@mofomartian Lisa's still in grade school. Marge would probably be 200K in debt to student loans, likely from having obtained higher training than Homer did. Homer would maintain a mid-paying job where he gets to be lazy while Marge would be unable to find any work anywhere that isn't tantamount to slavery, and with the combination of high bills and poor spending habits, they would not be able to raise their children properly and would struggle just to keep a house.
That would place them in the middle of middle class, at around the base of the top 33% of Americans.
@Orkhiss Well, a family with a high-income father living in a 2-story house with one main TV (that replaced a ~1980s junker they """found""" & used for over a decade) that has struggled to afford Christmas gifts in the past. Granted, I haven't watched the Simpsons since like... 2013-ish? So if they have expanded on the area of debt/mortgage then I wouldn't know. If they have, then you have a good point- but it was always my impression that they were living in debt.
@Lucious yeah, high-income. As in, not low-middle class. I don't think they even have a mortgage, and of they do it's already been paid off because it is never mentioned. I know Grandpa paid the down-payment. All their budget problems, even in the early years where they actually worried about money, are being unable to cover surprise expenses such as expensive medical procedures or large vanity purchases. I don't like the P word, and I mean it removed from it's critical theory roots, but I don't think you realize how privileged the Simpsons are, especially now.
@Orkhiss Looking up the numbers, I see I had the wrong range. I thought 35-70k/year was "low-middle class", turns out its more like 30-55k/year. So yeah, assuming Homer makes a bit more than the average for his salary range, the Simpsons are slightly better off than the median-middle class. Not quite enough for upper-middle, but too much for lower-middle.
The Simpsons' lifestyle, even with the struggle of scraping by, was already considered an ideal American dream by the time Grimes arrived who had a lifetime of misfortune despite all his hard work. His episode aged like fine wine being a relevant reflection of countries like U.S. so full of inequity and cautionary tale of being spiteful in such.
I'm not so sure the Simpsons ever represented what was easily achievable or obtainable materially to most ordinary people as the documented episode and this video realizes; The Simpsons was always a tool to examine what exactly the ideal, projected middle-America turned on its head would look like if it was inhabited by people who would never make it there in reality.
The inevitably flawed, longing for The Simpsons to desperately try and fit in with society and acquire financial security early on in the series was testament to the real-world, unrealistic pressures put onto people to transition up the class system, the writing however didn't dwell here and bypassed further struggle and injected The Simpsons directly into established Suburbia to branch into different narratives until they revisit it in this episode. At its heart this episode is switching the real-world roles; the driven Frank Grimes's of the world are the ones that succeed and inhabit the real Springfeild's which makes his deconstruction and humiliation in this episode by the regular, unmotivated and disconnected Joe's of Springfield all the more fitting, a perfect antithesis to American society at large and a great opportunity to laugh along at the guy who actually wins in reality.
@A TC Eh, I'd disagree mostly just for the fact that people like Frank Grimes don't actually succeed most of the time. Being ambitious and hard worker doesn't rarely translates into upward mobility in the real world, especially if it's accompanied by a caustic personality like Grimey's.
Yep! All that on one income as well. So many sitcoms have the wife not working and that just doesn't make sense anymore if you want to be able to afford a house.
right? affording a nice house in a decent neighborhood while the wife is stay at home with the three kids and a dog with a cat? all piggy backing on 1 income?
Yea unless you know what your doing in the day job and on the stock market that isn't a thing anymore
An ideal Simpsons joke would be Homer driving his car looking at a magazine talking about poverty in Africa. He goes "Oh those poor people. Luckily I'm in the United States of America!" Just as a homeless man comes up to him begging for money so him and his family can eat. Then homer just throws the magazine at him and drives off.
They always did. We just didn't notice. You're basically repeating the insight of this video analysis, and passing it off as your own original thought. But then you're also basically saying what Frank Grimes says.
@drivethrupoet I don't know. None of us are perfect and a lot of us have issues, but I'm guessing we are about the same age and I remember back when this started airing, it was super dysfunctional. ( entertaining, but super dysfunctional.)
There will never ever be another youtube series like "Never ever"
Seriously, a series enjoyable to watch even if you know nothing about the topic / don't care about it. Your Earnhardt video made me a nascar fan, and the WWE video darn came close to making me a wrestling fan.
Such a great and thoughtful review! Especially about the show's decline. PS: To me, "Homer's Enemy" was never the introduction of stupid, jerk Homer. That was Season 10's "Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble".
Funnily enough this was the most memorable episode for me, even though I'm from Europe and watched it as a kid. Even without proper cultural context this episode had an impact on me.
This reminds me of when my mom was trying to show me an episode of the x-files called "Jose Chung's from outer space". Found a plethora of videos explaining how good it was (that were longer than the episode) before actually finding the episode. For those who haven't found it, it's worth the search. Hardly anything I've seen has been so comedic and tragic, yet also making me genuinely question everything. You kind of have to know the two main protagonists beforehand to truly get it (which she exposed me to lol), but damn. Sidenote, she's a hardcore conspiracy theorist with a fire taste in memes and media; and the most loving mother anyone could ask for. I don't agree with her on a lot of things despite going down roughly the same path so far, but I appreciate that "question EVERYTHING" mentality she's given me. We're all mad lmao
Emp, another great video. Surprised you didn't include a reference to the film "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas, which hugely resembles the episode with the same message of the downfall of the "American Dream." The main character, like Grimes (who even looks and dresses the same), has done everything "right" and only suffers as a result and loses everything, he lives with his mother, has been divorced, and loses the right to see his daughter. The title "Falling Down" could be seen as a metaphor for a table which has broken two of it's legs, i.e. the main character losing his wife / family, which will topple down as a result of only having two supports, and thus the main character having a complete breakdown. I haven't seen the Simpsons episode but Grimes very much reminds me of the main character and the film in general.
For a while when I was a kid I only had season 8 on DVD so watched it thoroughly even with the commentary eventually. As an adult I realised if it's the last hoorah of the golden age then it was a pretty weak hoorah, the earliest 3 seasons are probably my favourite with a few great episodes here and there like Homer Badman
Speaking as someone who has been dealing with dysfunctional coworkers getting away with being dysfunctional, this analysis hits me at a deep level. TOO deep really.....
My son is 5-years-old and he loves the Simpsons. I only show him episodes more friendly to kids, a lot of earlier seasons and I avoid the ones with a lot of Itchy & Scratchy and the Halloween episodes. His favorite episodes are Dead Putting Society, Lisa the Vegetarian and the monorail one.
But then I showed him Homer's Enemy. While I was laughing at Grimey's plight, my son was horrified. He got sad and put his head down. I asked him what he thought. He didn't like it. I said, son, you're going to have to learn about the real world sometime. Might as well be now.
I think this episode broke his spirits and he's not even out of kindergarten yet.
If this story is even true, why the hell would you censor episodes for your kid, show him this episode then wonder why he got sad?! The episode didn't break his spirit, you did by coddling him then exposing him to something you didn't prepare him for.
@Claire Willow Here's another story. So he's been watching the Simpsons and I usually skip Itchy and Scratchy. He's been asking me not to skip them and I recently started relenting. A few make him laugh but he saw one recently where Itchy shoots Scratchy in the knees and shoves his head into a boiler. He started crying and we had to stop the show. A few days later he asks for The Simpsons again and is back to asking for Itchy and Scratchy. It was the one that was "guest directed" by Oliver Stone. He said he didn't get it.
Wow. If you had asked me I genuinely would have said this was my favorite episode of the Simpsons but I had no idea it was so renowned. It was the one non-treehouse of horror episode I remember saving and never taping over. I guess 7 year old me had good taste even if I may have not quite picked up on all the social meta-commentary going on at the time.
EmpLemon went from a YTP shitposter to one of the most talented social commentators on the site. Love the vids man, your insight on society is just so interesting. I know I sound like a 400 iq rick and morty fanboy but just man your vids are way too good lol
Strangely enough, I miss the era of his earlier commentaries from around 2016-2018. They were edgy, but very raw in meaning. Watch his rants about Youtube to see what I mean.
@Fattburger Nah, there were some okay videos but some of those rants are rather immature and not well done. His new content is just objectively better.
@Malakai I see what you mean, but I dunno. Today, Emperor lemon feels filtered, like he’s holding back from what he really wants to say. (and im not just speculating, he's admitted this in one of his vids last October.) I understand why he did it, and Im not scolding him for doing it, and he's still my favorite content creator either way. But part of me feels that his videos lost some of his charisma, even if they are "objectively" better.
@Fattburger yeah I definitely miss it, but still like this better. Its like old idubbbz vs modern idubbz. Bolth still great, but in a way I miss the old times
Watching this again over a year later, I can really see how this applies to my own life. Everyone is both a Homer Simpson and a Frank Grimes, it's about finding that perfect balance within yourself. This episode points out that Frank cannot cope with his own perceived failure compared to how he perceives Homer's success, even though they are both two very different people with different upbringings, ambitions, and perceptions of success. In my career, I've been at the bottom for as long as I've been in it and no amount of knowing everything about my job or doing the best work possible is going to get me off the floor. In the modern era, you're not rewarded for your success at your job so you have to find it elsewhere. Most often it's out of our control, so the only way we can control our perception of success is within ourselves and that our self worth is not reflected on our material or situational success. The only thing you can do in that situation is being both Homer Simpson and Frank Grimes. I remember watching The Simpsons for as long as I've been alive, even hearing it before I was born. My family would always watch it at 6pm during dinner and it was always good to watch. I will never get that back and thus, the nostalgia sets in.
Okay why do you watch every Youtuber I also watch, first I saw your comment on an Omni video, then an iNabber video, and then an EmpLemon video. I'm seriously starting to think my entire life on YT revolves around what you watch. Istg next I'm going to see you on a Summoning Salt video or something.
I love the lengths you went to in justifying so elaborately, efficiently a lazy YTP joke and by virtue of The Simpsons having done everything, you found a suitable bookend to make it seem relevant or profound.
15:00 I've got to say, I never rooted for Frank Grimes and I never started resenting Homer because of him. I never considered him a sympathetic villain either. Mostly because Frank was so extremely petty. It's not Homer's fault that life has been so easy for him and he bears no ill-will to most people. He isn't a mean person, whereas Frank appears does. Venting his frustrations on Homer instead of the system is what makes him not as compelling to me. Sure he berates the other people (and thus the system) in the end as well, but he's mostly focused on Homer.
Not to say I think Grimes is a badly designed character. The episode is one of my all-time favorites. It just doesn't evoke those specific emotions in me. ^^
Homer Simpson came from a dysfunctional family, his mother abandoned him, his father barely cared for him and yet he still sports a good job and supports a family with everything he has. without marge he would have gone nowhere and now he has surpassed what his father achieved and put him down for. Homer Simpson is by far the best character in modern television.
Homer actually worked to get to where he is not in the academic sense but through hardship and trials. Sure he may be lazy and stupid but theres more to him than meets the eye.
So correct!!! Homer is truly a special person! Maybe not the brightest, but has a heart as bright as the sun! Heaven will have a special spot for him! ✌☀️☁️
@Coffin Tears Would be an extremely poor thing to argue, specially considering this episode, unless you think Grimey deserved what he got after all he had been through, unlike Homer which didn't really went through any real hardship.
@Ebani A few episodes explore an idea that end up with Homer in a better workplace. In Magge Makes Three we learned that Homer achieved his dream of working at a bowling alley and was good at his job and was respected in the community but he eventually had to leave because he wouldn't be making enough money to support a third child. Simpsons and Deliah explores the problem with how people with unattractive appearances are treated with disrespect in the workplace. And Homer ends up getting a much better position and starts to pay attention more in work when growing hair when using a product made to do so.
@Ebani Grimes died because he overworked himself. His hard life drained all of his optimism and ability to find joy in something. Grimes never truly cares about the Simpsons but instead looks at Homer on face value and economic position compared to his. They are two sides of a coin and Grimes died for a reason.
@Ebani Homer being in the right place at the right time is a good take, but the simple fact of life is that this is the case for many people.
Just because someone was fortunate doesn't discount all the hard work and trials behind them, and while he is a sitcom character and therefore not completely subject to life's rules (i.e. no risk of redundancy or long-term job loss unless specifically chosen for story purposes) - Homer's upbringing and early life as detailed in the Golden Age paints a picture of a simple man who nonetheless is a fairly hard-working yet envious individual who wanted a better life for himself and his family while also wanting to find a way to come to terms with his place in the world, and finding the balance between those two positions was a constant struggle until he finally achieved it, and even then there have been a large number of episodes showing that Homer still struggles to find that balance between the positions on a very regular basis.
Sure, his status quo depicts him as lazy and buffoonish, and that's totally fair, because according to the continuity he's already achieved the end goal of that experience and is now in the death spiral of its finale, and we've never really mined the depths of his growth into what he is on the whole without satirical comedy added to its story-telling.
People don't seem to realize (Along with Grimes), that Burns barely pays Homer even when he's doing a decent job, as seen by the fact that the family is usually in poverty. Homer's lazyness comes back to Burns being a cheapskate. He sees that he gets paid crap anyways, so he uses the chance. We've seen Homer step up when he's on an actual dangerous situation numerous times. If Grimes realized this, he would have gone against Burns' bad practices and the system rather than Homer, who's just being opportunistic and even then is barely paid. But his bruised ego and his focus on what he can see rather than investigating Homer's backstory leads him to blindly bash someone who doesn't deserve it.
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John Sayles2022-05-31 03:45:43 (edited 2022-05-31 03:53:12 )
Counterpoints though, speaking on behalf of Mr Grimes. 1 life was unfair to the guy to a cruel and laughable degree, and while he does choose to make Homer a point of obsession for himself and to vent his frustrations against the man, he isn't wrong for holding some animosity towards Homer Simpson.
In the short time Grimes knew Homer he had shown no respect for Grimes or his property, stealing the man's lunch and his pencils despite being explicitly told no. And what's more saving Homers life from drinking acid got the man chewed out and docked pay, an act that was required because of Homer's dangerous lack of observation and criminal levels of negligence. Homer almost died, and his response was not to thank the man or resolve to at least be more careful, it was to laugh and rat the man out without providing context for his own involvement. And what's more Homer's own laziness and incompetence as a safety technician for a nuclear power plant is a legitimate threat to the health and safety of everyone around him.
It's easy to write off a lot of Homer's aloofness as he is his only victim, but that's not the case. And not just with Grimes but with his own friends and family, time and again we see Homer's selfish adherence to ignorance to be a detriment to those around him. We like Homer Simpson behind the TV screen, but the hard truth is if we ever met the guy, if he existed in his job in the real world, he would have gotten a lot of people killed at some point and we would certainly not want nothing to do with him because of not only the ways he hurts those around him, but so often refuses to change the behaviors which lead to such hardship. Homer Simpson is a bad husband, bad father, bad friend, bad neighbor, and a bad coworker, and Frank Grimes is justified in disliking him.
Great video! Just a note: it is amazing how stupid the essence of the american discussion sound like from the outside. For me, as you said, being an american means being like Homer Simpson. I mean, as well as with every other nationalism in the world.
The 200IQ analysis of this episode is that Grimes is a real world character pointing out the absurdity of what's going on around him, like the creator intended. But film essays can be fun.
Not taking anything away from the episode, it was brilliant.
The amazing thing about The Simpsons is that even if it has 30 years of garbage, that 10 years of high quality will be what most remember for coming generations.
So I’ve watched this video several times and I love it. I just saw a pic of Grimes dressed up like he was in the movie Falling Down and I realized that he’s the sympathetic villain Grimes was probably modeled after. Never put 2 and 2 together before, and the theme of that movie is exactly what you explain here.
I think another example of Frank Grimes being a completely normal person in the Simpsons world would be his voice. In the series, everyone has completely different and weird voices, with either different accents, tones, or pitches. Frank Grimes’ voice in all honesty is just Hank Azaria’s normal voice. That to me shows how he both stands out and fades in with all the other characters
i love every video i’ve watched on this channel. bro, you’re so well informed and have such interesting and nuanced takes. i’m genuinely and thoroughly engaged from start to finish like ???? the level of quality ????? please keep this up
My parents made sure me and my siblings were watching sitcoms and channels like Cartoon Network. But I also think they were also avoiding shows like the Simpsons at the time even though they also had strong opinions about America.
I can still remember when the Simpsons first appeared as just a short skit on the Tracy Ullman Show and Bart was popping up on bootleg type merchandise everywhere. It was kinda strange it was becoming known before it was really officially even a show.
You absolutely nailed this entire video. Incredible. As a long time Simpsons fan I thought I knew everything about this episode. Turns out I knew maybe 20%.
God i remember watching this episode when I was like 11 and just feeling really...cold in the pit of my stomach. Its such a crushingly dark ending because the implications of it all are solely in your head, meanwhile the episode ends with everyone laughing at the funeral, giving no solace to anything that just happened. Frank not only killed himself, he also left no impact on any character in the show, any lasting memories of him are heavily slanted and short term. It upsets me more than any horror movie because it's a level of....cosmic indifference that just feels crushingly lonely and real.
I did too when I was a kid! It felt so mean spirited for no reason. But now I understand it more. Grimes' spite towards Homer who only ever wanted to befriend him even if obnoxious, hits different for me now. Homer was envious of Grimes too, adorably so, but never malicious. Still feels mean spirited, but I kinda get what the writers were going for.
@FYLM - Frankie Young Loves Movies nah Grimes saved Homer’s life and then Homer proceeded to tell Mr. Burns he destroyed the wall. Homer probably would’ve gotten a warning while Grimes actually faces serious consequences.
this is the greatest lesson. Grimes was nothing but materialistic, what else could happen to him? If he never gave anything else in his life meaning, how could people actually care or remember him? If you're materialistic, if you care about nothing but what you have, instead of who you and the people you love are, then how could you want people to remember or even like you?
the idea that hard work has value in itself its long prove wrong. but that's just a small part of the deal. Grimes not only based his concept of justice and fairness on his own hard work and himself, but he forgot that to live in society is about how you can provide for it. Grimes never seemed like he ever wanted to be unique, or even develop his own personality... He cared only about materialistic success.
I'm probably more like Grimey. Even more so as I got older. But there are bits of Homer in me too. I am perfectly content to sit back and watch the world burn, and I most certainly lack ambition and have no desire to work over the 40 hours a week I'm currently working. But when I am at work, I am like Grimes and pretty serious about doing a good job. But outside of work I have no inclination for things like college courses or home improvement. I want to have fun.
I just watched Never Ever - HBox for the first time and i must say you are truly an outstanding cinematographer, and a huge inspiration. I felt like I was having chest palpitations watching HBox win Evo - you did such a good job with that section.
When I thought about other possibilities for never ever, the first and only thing came to mind was ‘there will never be another rock & roll band like Phish’ - not just my opinion, when you look at their resume, and some of the things they’ve done including riding a hotdog through their own audience on NYE, as well as playing a 13 night run at Madison Square Garden, without repeating any songs. Either way, I’ll continue to tune into your content. Well-Earned sub for you.
I am the funniest YouTuber of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear ihabe
I haven’t seen the simpsons since I was a child and it never really caught my interest since but your explanation of it has made me wanna binge watch it so I can appreciate it
Interesting analysis, and well made video. I grew up with the Simpsons in the 90’s and it was definitely shortly after this episode/season.. it was still a few years before it became family guy.. anyways, my actual comment is to counter that “we” like Homer. I always felt like I was laughing at Homer. His character actually became more endearing over time, but in those early episodes it’s almost the train wreck effect.
Heart of gold?.. idk of its a gold standard to strangle children, and get your loved ones gifts for yourself, etc, etc, etc..
this video made me think about the characters in a show I haven’t watched in easily a decade, so thanks for the nostalgia trip.
I think there is a great lesson on office politics in this episode. You can not fix problems that the rest of the social group does not care about, no matter how important to the company it may be in reality.
@Awsomeness103 certain shades of green, like the one he used; i perceive as yellow. certain tones of green & yellow bleed into each other too much for me to see a difference.
i have also never been able to accurately distinguish the difference between blue and purple. always a 50/50 for me and i’m semi convinced purple is just a myth created by people with normal color vision just to mess with us ;)
@Harrison Haine yessir! i can see red well when i wear my enchroma (colorblind) glasses. but without them most shades of red often appear “brighter” & closer to green. i’ll never forget how much more vivid & rich red looked when i tried them on for the first time.
legit when im in middle school i thought when someone say they're colorblind they see the world in black and white. no wonder i dropout from high school
The legit the most fascinating thing I’ve read today. How different your world must be without being able to have perceived that for yourself all these years.
I mean, I didn’t notice a difference either, but that’s because I originally watched this episode on a really crappy CRT. Yet these days, talented creators can bang out 40 minute essays on the topic!
@Milton Gam Ahh, my mistake; I assumed you meant textured like felt cloth (not as in mouth feel). Is there software that can colour-correct things for you (on top of the colour-blind glasses)?
It’s hardly the same thing, but as a light-sensitive, I don’t think I’ve spent more than that the time it takes to have a shower not looking through literally rose coloured glasses in maybe a decade now (that is, if not straight up heavy sunglasses if I’m going out on a bright day). Just less migraines this way; not that I’m actually photophobia. Just hurts.
@Loco Madman I've never heard of color correction software but I'd imagine it would just be tinting with the intended purpose being to make some color less evident.
@Loco Madman I think you might have misunderstood. I am not color blind in any way, changing filters just changes the strength of a certain perceived color. This, however, can make the world look more normal after I've gotten used to a certain shade, I'd imagine this would work the same for you. As in, fix being used to rose colored glasses by increasing your perception of rose so you start noticing that tint again.
this will sound stupid, but that too is almost a "homerism", something specifically designed to mess with people has no effect on people who couldn't tell the difference in the first place
@Mason Jones Well, actually, I just got up.. but I have a sneaking suspicion this could very well end up being the most intelligent thing I read all day! Good push, man.
@Asriel Dreemurr a bit tricky to articulate but the particular filter he used wasn’t “green” enough for my eyes to not register as yellow still. the shade of green he used is too light for me to pick up as green. i’m unable the difference between the simpson’s actual tone & the green he used. i wasn’t aware he had been doing it til he pointed it out.
same thing some notice when a youtuber says “i have a cold sorry for my voice”. usually not able to tell unless they point it out.
@Loco Madman i’m glad that peaked your interest! yeah with my eyes i can’t join the air force or work in air traffic control. can drive fine but i need to memorize the position of traffic lights cause they all look green to me :p
@Loco Madman yeah i'm thankful traffic light positions are universal, or at least uniform in the U.S. and highlighter colors such as yellow, orange, green, etc. look largely the same (yellow); so if i don't read the label it could be any of those colors without my knowledge. in middle school art class i drew a human hand green thinking it was tan/skin color. my teacher commented it was "creative" when she handed it back, which is when my classmates noticed it. the project was a drawing for mlk day so i drew a black hand shaking a white/tan hand not knowing it was actually green. basically i'm the reason color labels exist hahahaha
Absolutely brilliant video, It felt more like a sociological/ anthropological monography than "just another youtube video" and i loved every second of it! Could I ask, what kind of education do you hold and how did you research for the making of this video?
I like to imagine that in an alternate ending after Frank Grimes gets Homer's job, he sees the billboard with all the Magie pictures.
Homer explains to Frank the story behind it and it puts Frank into a meltdown of guilt because he realizes that not only was Homer was once in the same position as he was in but he may have also taken away the very thing Homer needed to support his family.
As we found out in "HOMR" when Homer did do his job as Safety Engineer, he got the plant shut down. I think Burns tolerates Homer because Homer turns a blind eye to all the safety violations and keeps the plant open.
Remember that one episode where Homer is reading a Reader's Digest and Mr. Burns caught him on CCTV? Mr. Burns commented about the qualification of safety inspector in his plant is being an illiterate...
@Hulk2k6 Meta: The reason why the show is so mediocre under Disney is because Disney knows if the show is too good it'll hurt their bottom line due to the controversy it would create.
@Phil Congratulations on your comprehension skills so far.
To bridge the remain gap, I will explain.
Yes it is something that I am assuming. But the basis for the assumption is so sound that the assumption may as well be fact. But it's not actually a fact.
Also, the Office Space scene of Milton makes me seethe with anger like nothing else. I hate seeing people treated like that by others. I would have defended Milton to the death.
I realize now that I am like Homers Enemy in more ways than I would like to admit. I am also consumed by the ideal world where fairness beats out anything else. I base my performances on how well or how much I practice or how hard I work for what I earn. Subconsciously I think that I diminish what I do with how hard I work. I also get jealous and try to beat the system in the ways you explained Homers enemy tries to beat it also. I represent little value to others because I am only focused on winning. I actually think that I learned something about myself here. Maybe I can learn to change now.
I love how you returned to the original question after all the distraction, just like the old episodes of The Simpsons
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Matt Thompson2021-12-03 09:03:17 (edited 2021-12-03 09:55:57 )
Showing a still from the Armin Tamzarian episode to mark the beginning of the Simpsons decline was spot on haha. Your videos are so well done. Keep up the good work
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
@10 Outta 10 the difference is that all of that has a actual meaning unlike i cant sneed, feels like that pekple are just repeating over and over again to look cool, also its painful to read someone repeat all theese 4chan talk, its obvious you probbaly go there because the internet historian video, no one talks like that anymore
I guess I could never buy into the idea of Homer’s Enemy as being brilliantly meta since it breaks Homer’s character in order to make its statement. Homer is not himself in this episode, he’s not an extreme version of himself, and the message of the episode is that inequity is the fault of lazy workers, that people like Frank are victims of people like Homer.
The Simpsons is basically the blueprint to every great comedic show. The less polished beginning -> Getting into their groove -> finding their stride -> hitting their stride -> experimentation -> deconstruction -> self parody -> living death.
Margaret Groening’s maiden name before she was married was Wiggum, too. The show incorporated so many real life elements that you would sometimes forget it was even animated in the first place.
In the video, he says "The true location of the Simpson's home may forever remain an enigma," but it's literally based off of Springfield, OR, a town just South of where Matt Groening was born and raised, and Matt said so himself during an interview with the Smithsonian back in '12
This is an excellent video. I used to love the Simpsons when I was a kid and this episode was somehow stuck in my mind. So when I saw the thumbnail I immediately remembered the plot and I had to watch it... now I know why
Excellent documentary, I do not know why I put it off for so long. I am looking forward to the hopeful continuation of the "There will never ever" series in the future.
@P M when I was a kid he was considered the most wholesome and one of the greatest comedians of a decade, he helped pave the way for black people in the entertainment business, it’s less that he’s a fallen hero, and more that many people considered him a hero before this came out
@Sam And Joe Productions this video is four months old, this comment is three months old, and literally everyone on the face of the planet earth already knows that, why are you here
@incinium z rich people have always been able to get away with crimes like this, if Bill Cosby getting away with (YouTube no no word) signifies a crumbling society then we’ve been living in the rubble for decades
@Fort Bill Cosby was released after his constitutional rights were acknowledged as having been roundly violated. Cosby getting out isn't a case of rich people getting away with shit, but him benefitting from laws designed to protect us all from the state.
He's out based on a technicality rooted in how his trial was handled. But what's important to note is the judge in the case explicitly stated he had not been exonerated of any crimes
@Rakinjo2 Our justice system is built to chase convictions no matter what. A lot of the times people will confess to a crime they didn't do purely because they were either offered a lighter sentence or were forced into it under threat of a heavier one. Furthermore, if there is actual proof that a crime took place, you wouldn't wait 30+ years to go to the authorities as the supposed victims of Cosby did. You accuse me of a witch hunt when your side rushed into accusing a man of a very serious crime because you wanted a head. You wanted blood. Whether or not he was indeed guilty or not wasn't taken into consideration. If Cosby did do the crime then he should be locked up no matter the suspicious facts surrounding this case. He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, and as long as there is only conjecture, base accusations, and a shaky confession... I'm not buying his guilt. So overall I'm glad he was freed. No innocent man should ever see the inside of a cell.
@Rakinjo2 He admitted to giving women drugs, in a video taken after the original prosecutor declined to pursue charges because the accusations weren't considered credible, meaning that Cosby's fifth amendment rights weren't protected at the time the video was taken & its admission into evidence was illegal.
@MetaForth you really dont understand what happened. you have a cursory surface level explanation through snarky click bait websites. it was definitely not just a "technicality"
@MetaForth So... basically he's the new OJ Simpson? Got away with it because of a technical screwup, even though he admitted to it after he couldn't be punished anymore, almost as if to say "haha, I got away with it" to the victim's family and everyone else?
24:31 If it was grimey, he would've lost that chance. Thinking that he can't give something so low for his very loved one. Not a wrong idea, but it would sink himself into a spiral and end up losing the woman,
Counterpoint to your introduction: Married... with Children started airing 2 years prior to The Simpsons. It even started airing a couple of weeks before The Simpsons arrived to Tracey Ullman Show as a series of shorts. I think Married... with Children did more to portray a dysfunctional family on TV.
Yeah, the reason it created controversy wasn't simply for depicting a dysfunctional family, it was mostly because the show was animated and the star of the show was Bart (at first). In people's minds this meant that it was a show aimed at kids and a lot of parents freaked out, mine included. I wasn't allowed to watch it for years.
Grimey actually felt like the only sane man in the simpson universe. Until he had his breaking point, reminds me of the main character from the movie Falling down. Also remember Frank grimes Jr?
I started to scroll down and read the comments during this video and the very second this line was said was the exact moment I started reading this comment and I have to say that was pretty weird
@Louie Beatty then why are you telling me elon musk's wife is Grimes!? You clearly didn't get the joke and youre now back pedaling. My joke was about his wife's name...
@NoobedNate What the heck dude; why’d you direct that at me in three different threads? Who even was talking about F1 racing?? Bizarre guy, just totally bizarre..!
here's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
@c. j. macq I can’t disagree with any of that in general, except it’s still a detailed analysis. Not a 40 minute one, true, but he has more than a couple-few more examples to help prove his thesis statement.
@Loco Madman ... its not a bad video at all. very well written and produced. i know the whole point of this video was to analyze. i was just making a general criticism about over analysis and using this video as an example. but it was a damned good video and it made some very good points.
@CeeStyleDj ... thanks so much. that's very kind. you know i was on drugs when i wrote that? NAWW, just kidding. actually, i was under the influence of "reality!" i appreciate your perceptive comment.
@c. j. macq so many people in the comments - and even this analysis in general - are taking the Simpsons way too seriously. The creators made the show almost as a parody of certain things that are wrong with American culture or Americans in general - yet somehow the presenter in this video, and many people in the comments are coming to the conclusion of " we should be more like The Simpsons"... Lol, it blows my mind.
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@CeeStyleDj .. you make a great point. i agree, i think people take way too much of everything TOO SERIOUSLY? this was just a tv show written by professional writers for an intended commerical result. and they achieved that result very well. i think the simpsons is one of the best tv shows ever. but that doesn't mean take every word from the show and apply to my world view. (except LISA! she's a character i greatly appreciate.) your last sentence was funny. do you remember the episode that was about convincing all of springfield to "be more like the boy?" meaning bart of course. all of springfiel turn into chaos. this seems to be what many of these analyzers want. we can be entertained by the simpsons and even learn from it. but no, i don't think its a good idea we become more like them.
@Mr. Michael Philips There's actually one other sane and normal person in the Simpson's universe. Superintendent Chalmers, just watch any scene with him and you'll see he's a regular guy interacting with and reacting to a bunch of maniacs.
Honestly it blows my mind that you STILL have less than 1 mil subscribers, you’re up there with some of the most impressive examples of quality on YouTube
Ed Sova2022-03-06 23:49:43 (edited 2022-03-07 00:01:47 )
24:53, fairness means everyone gets what they NEED. Fairness does not mean equality, and fairness does not mean everyone gets what they want. Frank Grimes fails because he fails to understand this.
When you notice Matt Groenings initials on the side of the lead characters head. It kind of changes things and that is the thread that takes you into the absolute intelligence that IS the Simpsons.
To be fair some of the grievances be priviledge are a bit dated as most people are struggling anyway with how money and affordability has changed. So in a way we are all Frank Grimes at this point. Also most shows do this by default in creating a Frank Grimes anyway, always someone with struggles and envies someone else’s privledged life.
28:20 that's what i always thought about the episode, it's like putting someone from our world into some kind of childish/ comedical/ satirical universe
Just recently found your channel, and if nothing else, your choice of music constantly gives me a bit of whiplash when I have them playing mostly in the background.
Didn't really ever expect a guy presenting a documentary on a Simpsons episode to randomly chuck in tracks from Soft Machine.
@ooo ooo it's a very pointless lie, which accomplishes nothing, "wow, matt greoning ate a few times at your mum's restaurant, that she hasn't owned for decades, and he probably doesn't remember". I'm more inclined to believe her, rather than think that she's lying about something so insignificant
@ooo ooo only reason I could see not believing it would be “what starving artist can eat at a restaurant everyday” but ig things could have been different back then
@Remy Clio sorry if I came off rude, now that you mention that it’s understandable, I thought maybe your mom had known him or maybe spoke to him about what he was making, have a good day/night :)
@Zorbaz I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. But based on your previous comments I’m gonna go with no.
The value of currency will generally go down with time, or in other words, prices will increase.
Meaning 7$ today was worth 1$ in the 70’s.
A pack of cigarettes in the 70’s costed a dollar. You may think, oh shit that’s cheap. But translated to today’s currency, it costed 7 modern day US dollars
@Zorbaz Also a struggling artist in LA can just mean they weren’t well off but it doesn’t mean they are piss poor to the point they cant grab a sandwich and coffee 5 days a week instead of running a car for instance
Everyone keeps saying if he was broke he wouldn't eat out every day? It's a shit ton cheaper to eat out then cook. If their mom owned a greasy spoon you could have lunch/dinner in la for the equivalent of 10$. Also I'm sure they ment struggling not broke. The time in my life when I considered myself broke I was young no large financial commitments. I also ate every meal out because I hadn't learned to cook yet.
What could be more terrifying than the unpredictability of apoplectic rage? Maybe the idea of being insane yourself, would you know if you saw the world differently from everyone else? Who am I?
I’m glad it’s not just me lmao…it’s so unsettling in far too real a way, the fact that it happens mid-sentence, in a way that wouldn’t have killed any other character, it really got to me
@Ruby Blue I think that was the point, Homer can survive falling down Springfield Gorge(though Behind the Laughter showed him becoming addicted to painkillers during his recovery), but Grimey couldn't handle high voltage for even a moment, though he did grab 2 different wires so the circuit would have formed through his heart, the real question is why those 2 wires were in such close proximity to each other without proper insulation, that's just asking for a short.
@Loopy Loon The character of Frank Grimes I feel like also represents the downfall of the american economy. The Simpsons can be considered part of the higher or higher middle class by today's standards. Frank Grimes gives Homer a scratching critique on his life and represents all of us now.
@Random Guy on the Internet But Grimes was also a spiteful sort who failed to realize that if his strategy wasn't working he ought to change it, but he instead chose to (try to) punish Homer because his existence didn't conform to his world view.
@Loopy Loon "why were those 2 wires so close together and not insulated" have you seen the power plant? There's beakers of acid lying around and toxic waste leaking from the ceiling practically everywhere.
@F-22 Raptor landing zone That's a good point, even if you accept that Mr. Burns just buys his way out trouble, you'd think he'd eventually run out of money with such a poorly maintained power plant piling up lawsuits.
I showed my elementary school-aged son this episode and I regret it. I showed him a little bit of Itchy and Scratchy before and a couple of the more benign Halloween episodes, and he loved them. But this one made him hate the Simpsons. He was horrified.
Simpsons was once the head of there time. I stopped watching around section 12, it was unrecognizable after section 9, but loyalty of the show kept me around until one day that loyalty faded
I miss the glory days of the Simpsons. I feel like in the late 1990s, the mantle of best cartoon passed to Futurama. But the Simpsons were my fav from the first episode in 1989 until 2000 or so. I cannot believe that it is still going on, although I lost interest in it a decade ago when it was already years into a steep decline. But it (and Futurama) have a permanent special place in my heart
I think this episode has a really important message that many people need to hear, it's that no matter how hard working or intelligent you are, you can't live a happy and fulfilling life if you're hate filled and resentful. Something horrible will eventually happen directly or indirectly as a result of this hatred, in Grimey's case, his death. Life is unfair and we can't spend our time being jealous and envious of others, we should just mind our own business sometimes. Great episode.
@KOT EBANA ROT It kind of is. Homer sells Grimes out (not maliciously but stupidly) for being the one who destroyed a wall with acid, acid that Homer was about to drink by accident. This whole diatribe against Grimes is silly, Grimes doesn't start off as some bitter, hateful person, he becomes that person when confronted with Homer's obliviousness, sloth, ignorance and luck. I'd be pretty hateful of someone who; ate my lunch, chewed my pencils, ratted me out after saving their life, kept calling me a name I didn't want, etc. etc. It just stings twice as hard when you find that the idiot who did all this is also somehow more successful than you despite doing nothing.
bu-but... but... but the rich are taking over, taking money from us... and getting rid of the workforce and replacing them with machines. Gah, its so unfair!
@Dr. Fun Sure, but what does Frank accomplish with all his efforts to tear down Homer? It's okay to dislike someone, but trying to destroy them out of jealousy won't change anything.
@Monlyth I agree, I think it's far more productive to try to change the system that allows a parasite like Homer to exist rather than to focus your attention on the parasite itself.
Also, I think emplemon's and a lot of people's assessment of what motivates Grimes is incorrect, I don't think it's really jealousy that motivates Frank but rather that Homer represents the antithesis of his worldview, and he wants to correct it by exposing Homer. Consider; if Frank was motivated by jealousy then it stands to reason that the writers would write Frank attempting to take what Homer has rather than destroy what he's got. Instead, Frank tries to show Homer's incompetence to the world, expecting that if he does so, Homer's lack of work/aptitude would be punished which fits with his worldview (hard work = success, no work = failure). Instead, the world embraces Homer's ineptitude ("first prize!"), shattering Frank's worldview completely and driving him mad.
@true romani I don’t think that’s unfair, but cruel is definitely the outcome. There’s enough dystopian stories where AI’s replace humans as workers. Maybe when I’m near death and senile everyone will be out of jobs and a communist revolution will occur, or everyone will die.
@true romani What are u trying to imply? I mean you don't need to take over when you already hold most power, and also the increase of technology to minimse the need for wage labour (inside of a system that nessecitates that most people must sell their labour) is kind of a natural tendencey since at least for a certain amount of time it's more profitable.
@Dr. Fun I mean sure, but as Emp said. Blaming and getting mad at Homer is like getting mad at your dog. They can do stupid shit but they're not doing it to inconvenience you or piss you off.
when u said every other show copies it in some way i was reminded of my theory that the amazing world of gumball is one of those shows. a lazy dad who eats a lot. a mom whos always trying to keep things tidy both metaphorically and literally and also a smart child. plus 2 wacky children. plus they both take place in small towns with repeating characters. idk i thought that these similarities were interesting
Felt cheap just giving this video a like. This is possibly the greatest essay-style video I've ever seen. The editing, story-telling, and depth of analysis is just stunning. Take this anonymous internet user's thumbs up!
Check vsauce of you like this type of stringed ideas, this episode is basically everything they did there, don't know if it's straight up stealing the style or just a love letter to Michael.
I’ve never seen an episode of The Simpsons… literally. And I’m 33 years old. But your video was so awesome, and kept me glued to the screen the entire time!! Same goes with your NASCAR videos. I’ve never watched a single race… But those are some of my most favorite videos on YouTube.
The decline was real. It’s hard to imagine when someone finds modern Simpsons episodes to be “pretty good”, that they ever appreciated the Simpsons at all.
When I was a kid the Simpsons Christmas special was on TV, there was also a commercial for Butterfingers with Bart so I naturally assumed that they made the Simpsons look like Butterfingers wrappers and that's why they were yellow.
The Simpsons were dead to me the second they made that Trump West Side Story video. I hadn’t watched them for years but that killed any interest I had in watching them ever again. And I absolutely HATED Trump as president. That video was just so unbelievably cringe-inducing that it ruined the show for me.
@philly_sports i didn't even know about it till now and yet it didn't surprise me at all. Fortunately we don't have Fox where i live so they dont show recent episodes on tv anyway
@David Linehat I think he means the show after season 8. Spongebob is the same way. The show effectively ended a long time ago, but it is still worthy of analysis like other TV shows that have ended like The Sopranos or The Wire. GOT died around season 4-5, before that it was a decent show worth watching and analyzing.
@philly_sports I voted for Trump just to spite both them and Family Guy, which I quit watching after the Trump episode (whose only funny joke was a stealth reference to The One and Only Genuine Original Family Band ) and I'll vote for him again just to spite them both. AOC and Ilhan Omar's anti-Israel rhetoric is racist, antisemitic, and xenophobic, and all that "orange man bad" propaganda is stealth white supremacy.
And "Bart to the Future" got plenty wrong in that scene and in general. It assumes "President Trump" (the name Donald is never spoken) will be followed by a woman (Kamala Harris, are you watching?), and they failed to predict Chastity Bono, Lisa's opponent in the election, renouncing her homosexuality by renouncing her womanhood altogether (see also: the Cher-crow). In addition to being a cheap knockoff of "Lisa's Wedding," they also ripped off a season 1 Family Guy episode (the "Canada sucks" one) by setting up the framing device in an Indian casino.
@Majin Vegeta over 20 EO within the first couple of months most regarding undermining rights, the oil ransom debacle, antagonizing China and then becoming the face of a pacifist nation after AAPI sjw acts, his own pathetic bow to Putin meeting after calling the man a murderer thug in the election. Yea kid,
You make some fair points but it could have been a great episode but based on the end and the call backs to the episode it is most meanspirited story in retrospect: 1. The Grimey nickname 2. Having his son come back and try and kill Homer 3. Ever Homer joke about Grimes 4. The whole laugh scene at the funeral
Grimes is a person with common sense in world of cartoon logic. And Homer Simpson is the one we see most to use and abuse this cartoon logic. While at the same time, this cartoon logic does not work for Grimes at all.
Considering how often he saw Homer to be extremely irresponsible and outright danger to society. How he encountered multiple times Homer to be danger to people around, Grimes included, and then see Homer get away with everything by lying or by cartoon logic, yeah that would piss me off too.
This conflict between Grimes and Homer is about universe that placed arbitrary double standards on them, where Homer gets away with everything without lasting consequences while Grimes never gets a break no matter what either of them do. Homer represents to Grimes everything wrong with this cartoon universe. And Grimes is perfectly aware of that. So of course he dislikes him. Because he is forced to be in universe that decided that he shall be the butt of every joke while Homer has infinite divine intervention at his call at any moment.
I have the opposite theory about The Simpsons future prediction powers. It’s not that he was saying things that were going to come true they were intentionally saying things so stupid that the audience of that time would laugh at the absurdity of it… ironically enough though the real world is so bizarre that all these intentionally bad predictions turned out right.
I do hate to be that guy, and let me just say, your videos are amazing and I love all of them and hope you continue to produce them, but 588 nanometers is distinctly orange light. Yellow light exists between 550 and 580 nm. Or at least according to my quantum homework it does.
As a long time fan of the show, I have to defend the later seasons. The issue with the structure of the series after the 9th season was that it changed it's identity, but that doesn't mean that the show has gotten worse. It's just not the same direction and that's what made it feel lesser. But over the years, the series has produced several episodes that have been solid and again, with time, aged well and made them feel like better episodes. The issue with a series this long, is that it's hard to create engaging stories that don't share similarities to other animated shows or that repeats an older plot. For instance, Pokemon has basically made the same episodes for most of the generations until Pokemon Best Wishes where they tried to make the show darker, then more serious in nature in the XYZ arc and goofier in Sun and Moon and now fast paced in Journeys. But for several earlier seasons they had the same formula and it became stale. The Simpsons have been in competition with several other shows since the '90s but have often found strong themes, like the 'The Squirt and the Whale' episode where there was a beached whale and Springfield had to resolve the issue, which had contrasting opinions on how it should have been handled. Since then several other episodes have been great, but the issue with the seasons have been that not every episode is strongly written or as interesting in the 21st century. With that said, I thought this was an amazing synopsis of why the show is special and how it reflects to the American Dream. I found a lot of good in this video and thought it was well-made.
I think the simpsons decline goes more like this: s1-8 (Classical): the golden age s9-11 (Old): the okay age, ended with Maude's death s11-20 (Middle): the decline of the simpsons, no more canon changes s20-30 (Modern): Fox does daring changes to the show to try and revive it s30 onwards (Today): Everyone has given up, show will decline forever and no major canon changes will be made
Born in the 21st century (and in another country), I grew mostly watching post season 8 Simpsons episodes, so I didn't understand the criticism. Now this video blew my mind
I'm not especially familiar with this series beyond a few episodes occasionally, but would people likely consider Frank and Homer to be analogous to Sideshow Bob and Bart?
Fun little piece of information: in the “7 deadly sins” part, for lust he shows homer reaching for a woman’s ass, or at least it would appear that way. Actually, in the episode Homer is show to be reaching for a piece of candy that get stuck there, leading to her accusing him of being a womanizer in the episode Homer Badman, S6 E9 on D+. Because of this specific clip being used, emp technically falls under the trap everyone in Springfield does. Thank you for coming to my over-analyzation of a simple frame from an amazing YouTube video.
I didn't wanna cause a fuss, but now that you mention it... Perhaps the bit where he asks Maude to get him the peanuts at the bottom of the bowl would be better suited?
Technically lust as a sin isn't purely sexual. It's simply intense desire for a single thing as opposed to gluttony (the desire which leads to wasteful overconsumption), greed (desire to simply possess things), or envy (the desire to have something owned by another).
"The episode is about inequity." No, it isn't. There's a difference between equity and merit. The episode is about merit.
And it seemingly revels in Grimes, and by extension all people still fighting upwards, getting destroyed. Responsibility is turned into a joke, and now, somehow, people are surprised when people in positions that matter turn out to be irresponsible, that they no longer really care about anything but damage control. It's as if they just accepted it as a fact of life that people who try would be there. They used to be here, imperfect as they were, but look around now. Counterculture makes for a shitty establishment when it wins.
This was really the writers having an attack of conscience. Living in a society that takes the side of selfish idiot slackers because they're more relatable reveals something dark about people and their judgment of character that sarcastic writers in the late 80's didn't want to think about. They were just trying to poke holes in Reagan's America, which turned out to be the easiest thing in the world, but after the deconstruction, what's left?
Nihilism. No one has answers on how to create their ideal society, because ideal and equal aren't the same thing, and there's nowhere to go after you figure that out. Reagan's America sucked, but so does every other version of it you can imagine grounding in reality. Good video, though: this is why the Simpsons is a great show: it's the postmodern condition compressed into about 6 seasons of glorious animated narrative. They will be talking about this show in classes on corporate art appreciation a couple centuries from now, in their imperfect future.
1) Homer (and everyone around him) was turned into an insufferable idiot in this episode for the sake of making a point. Homes has always been stupid, but the message ended up being ungenuine as Homer never really was a moron of THIS caliber.
2) When it comes to his relationship with Flanders in the older episodes, Homer didn't do anything do improve his status unlike Grimes. He envied Flanders for what he had, but he never did anything to deserve it in the first place. Grimes worked hard all his life and got nothing. Saying they're the same is just false.
Fair statements to make, but Imma try to counter them with my own thoughts:
1) I consider the actions of Homer, and everyone else, to be as genuine as they can be. Grimes is the paramount factor of the episode, and imagining the story without it, as hard as it is, there are no anomalies to typical Simpson behaviour which I can detect. Everyone else appears extra moronic because they are portrayed next to Grimes, a real, logic driven person. It may have been entirely intentional that Lisa says 11 words in the whole episode, her shortest role yet (Those words being "Hi." "Okay." and "Can I go downstairs and see what Dad's doing?" The latter one literally answering her absence from a plot by being uninvolved.) The de-facto 'SMARTEST' main character of this sitcom is almost completely absent to put all attention on Grimes and his contrary life to the whimsical bullshit of Springfield. They aren't on another layer of stupidity, rather the divide between stupidity and reason grew even further apart in this episode than any other.
2) You're comparing Grimes' tenacity and ambition to Homer's envy and malice. That is not the point being made here. The point being made is that Grimes, throughout the course of the episode, has a response towards the unfairness of this life when presented a slob like Homer: he becomes more like him. A man who attempts to improve his status and believe themselves worthy of reward for their ambitions DOES NOT equal a vindication to prove those less worthy than them are undeserving. In fact, Grimes' shifts throughout the episode from a character having just worked themselves up from nothingness, focusing their whole efforts into improvement and betterment, and slowly becomes less focused on improvement and more focused on envy. Whilst Homer never had a stage of 'self improvement', one could argue that his shift is the introduction of Flanders. However, instead of appreciation and recognition which Grimes' strived for, Homer's was content and ego. There is rarely, if ever a scene of Homer plotting Flanders' demise past the one episode Emp touched on, he only hates him in the moment he appears. THAT is the distinction between Homer and Grimes. The former has something worth his time, even if unearned, to occupy him from his hostilities of envy. The latter has nothing, even if deserved, to prevent him from seeking a vendetta.
You could say that Homer's hunger was satiated through his most iconic prop: food and beer. A full belly for the round protagonist. Grimes' hunger could never be satisfied.
I think it's fair to say the character's personalities were a bit off/exaggerated in this episode for the sake of making the point. Maybe it was somewhat intentional. Like, it's one thing to have Mr. Burns not fire Homer for his shenanigans but for him to reward him for them is a little much. Anything to drive Grimes crazy, I guess. Because he was supposed to be a "real person" placed in springfield I think the writers were trying to emphasize how much crap homer gets away with scott-free that would deeply unnerve a real person. But again, I think even if that was the intent, that's still a fair criticism
@Necrotic_Farron when I first watched this episode, I wondered what would Lisa, usually a voice of the reason character, think about Grimes and his take on Homer. I guess considering how the entire family turned away from Homer after Grimes' rant, they all probably thought he had a point
Another thing to consider, is that the episode's writer, John Swartzwelder, is a far-right libertarian who mainly saw Grimes as a self-insert. Homer was deliberately moulded to essentially become "everything that's wrong with America", a lazy, selfish gluttons who feeds of the labour of honest hard-working Americans like Grimes.
Now, unfortunately for Swartzwelder, that wasn't how most viewers ended up viewing the episode. Or Grimes for that matter, who ended up being portrayed as a delusional crank, rather than the unironic PoV character as he was intended. Grimes' failing wasn't just trying to apply "real world logic" onto the world of Springfield, but blaming his shortcomings on his peers, rather than any systemic injustices
@pointPi Do you have any sources to back up that intention, because it sounds really theoretical, especially seeing as they drove Grimes to a manic fuelled death and portrayed Homer as not just the better man in regards to social respect and humility, but also at peace of mind like Emp described. As the commentary said, he is 'zen'.
I'd highly doubt a writer would give such political adversity and symbolism of 'wrongness' to be the one most willing to compromise and change to accommodate Grimes, the rigid and breaking. That doesn't sound to me like someone who is portraying the wrongness of America themselves, but the portrayal of Right Lib bitterness.
Still, whether you have proof of this intent or not, it is a very interesting point to make, so thanks for including.
@pointPi Where does John Swartzwelder is revealed to be a far-right libertarian? I' m not surprised if he is a liberterian but I only known him to be a recluse and the Simpsons' best writer. The Simpsons overall theme is anti-authority. George Meyer and Swartzelder are the main drivers of the theme of the show. On how Simpsons writers worked, Swartzelder' s episode had the least rewrite which is 50%. The Simpsons is a team effort.
Oh my God thank you dude for reminding me of mission hill! I always loved that show. I remember this weird kinda crudely drawn show just shows up on adult swim. Well I fell in love and wish it was successful.
"All good things end at some point" "every story has to have an ending" well HOW would the Simpsons end exactly?! Would it end at season 8 with Matt saying "Simpsons are done lol bye" or how could have the Simpsons ended when most of america wanted more?
I kept seeing this video in my recommended as I started watching the simpsons from the start. I always wondered what it was about the episode that could possibly make it so noteworthy. I understood as soon as I saw it.
@Epsilonsama let’s see (math isn’t my strong suit); ‘81, so.., forty? (Oh dear sweet jeebus, I really am the old man in the room).
It’s actual slightly worse than you figure here too. In my little neck of the woods (Canada) we didn’t get “new episodes” of the Simpsons until the Mid-90’s until I had already seen the Grimes episode in syndication like maybe a 100 times (no fooling). But it’s gotta be at least two decades since I’ve seen it last, I will admit.
@сяaиky вiтсн bwahahaha...! Man, that just tickles me. Busted; my body might be 4 decades old, but I’m very immature for my age (I mean, I keep getting older, but no one is every going force me to grow up); and I’m definitely outta this world! Or maybe I’m just a space-case, feel free to make that particular judgment for yourself.
Regardless, I totally still nerd out on comics & movies like a teenaged fanboi; this is my geek-fu, and it is strong! Bwahahaha.... 😅😂🤣
Let’s see... “Synthetic Humanoid”, okay. Lemme guess, you’re more a “Treehouse of Horror” fan, aren’t you? I just have to know, what’s an under-rated episode of Simpsons look like to you?
@Loco Madman So you're a Gen Xer. How come I seem the only one to have noticed how he got the Gen X dates so spectacularly wrong? Grew up in the Nixon era? During the Vietnam war? If that were true, Gen Xers would be 60 now, yet we are around 40.
Of course we weren't born during the Nixon era, and we weren't adults in the 80s, those are the boomers.
@Loco Madman Some say 1981 is the first year of birth of the millennials, so you could be one, while I'm a late Gen X ('77).
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Loco Madman2021-03-04 22:25:23 (edited 2021-03-06 00:36:30 )
@Kaiser Soymilk There’s actually a small amount of debate about when & where the generational divide occurs. The simplest definition I’ve come across is not actually when you were born, but then you reached the legal age of majority in your country (which is why the generational divide can vary). As I reach that age before the year 2000, I therefore count not as a millennial but Gen X.
here's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
@GoFidoGo I don't disagree but I will say there is a real strong taste of irony in the idea of subscribing to a Disney service to watch The Simpsons...
Wow! If you have not, you def need to check out the first (I would say 10) seasons of the show. After that, Futurama took the mantle of the superior cartoon (and is still my favorite ever to this day). It is sad that much of the millennial and Z generations look to Family Guy as a good show. That show is literally 22 minutes of witless toilet humor with threadbare storylines punctuated by flashback jokes. The South Park episode where they critique Family Guy is actually a perfect encapsulation on everything wrong with that $hitty show
@Loco Madman I think a good rule of thumb for generational divide is if you went through your entire high school career when the world wide web was a thing, that makes you a millennial at least. Im a late Gen Xer; the WWW did not come around until my senior year in high school
@Chris Ramsey Age of majority prior to the new millennium or after. Makes it even simpler because it actually uses the millennium as a benchmark, but you do you man.
@Chris Ramsey “The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood as recognized or declared in law.” Source, Wikipedia. Nothing like having to explain something someone less knowledgeable could have discovered for themselves with 5 seconds on Google search. It translates to, “Is it legal for you to vote, buy booze, and serve in the military of your country? If yes, you are past the Age of Majority.”
I was an legal adult before the millennium, ergo, I’m not a millennial. Does not get easier than that. Any further ways you need education? I’ll be happy to provide it.
Matt McConaha2021-03-01 07:21:18 (edited 2021-03-01 07:24:05 )
@TVB sounds like you're failing to recognize that California is more than just LA and SF. I'd say California contains regions which are more or less equivalent to what you can find everywhere else in the US. Or rather it may be more succinct to say, for the majority of US towns, you can find a nearly equivalent town in California.
@Hyper Tails the Fox I mean, there is irony in the fact that the city of angels is hell, but for the most part people would still call it hell by any other name.
PS. Sorry if I came off too, 'punchy' I guess, It's just you came off as rather arrogant and I... I didn't want waist my time going on a tyraid berating you for statement. Although my retort really wasn't helping matters either.
So in short, My appologies, that was rather rude of me. Now please go on and explain your thinking.
@mannhouse wow really nailed us there, not like Texas where I was born has a massive Hispanic and Latino population, or North Carolina where I currently live has a massive Black problem, in reality you probably live in a mostly or all white area and there is a black area that Californians disregard like Compton or Oakland
@KND the other reasons being, the politicians there make horrendous policy decisions that tend to spread to the rest of the US. It's also a syndrome where only the cities rule, and the other areas get the shaft
@minty_ Thesaurus04 I was linked the exact same video by another guy.
1. The reason I made the comment was because I found the joke Emp Lemon made to be funny. Nothing more, nothing less. I was not asking people to link me this video.
2. A lack of happiness could be from literally anything. People could be unhappy for all of the previously stated reasons. But they could also be unhappy because they lost an election.
Maybe they're unhappy because they don't like the direction that the country is heading.
Maybe they're unhappy because they don't think they're properly being represented by their government and are being ridiculed by Mass media on a daily basis.
3. I haven't been to LA, I've been to Florida, but that was when I was much younger and not really thinking yet, so I won't pretend to be an expert, or even heavily informed, on these things.
But I will politely ask for any other sources you've got, because if it's just that one guy, then while tested, I remain unconvinced.
@minty_ Thesaurus04 Alright. I get your point about the substance abuse and what not.
I personally would consider the lack of a college degree to be a good thing because, to me, that would imply that they at least have agency, and chose to go their own way as opposed to buying into a system which has time and again screwed over many other individuals who were simply doing what they were told.
Also, a question that just popped into my head, are these surveys including illegal immigrants, More specifically the drug cartels and trafficking peeps?
I don't want to paint with broad strokes, but if we're including that, then I wouldn't consider that to be the fault of the red states, it could be the fault of an unsuccessful border policy.
An unsuccessful border policy from 2014. Because that's when the video and article were uploaded.
Granted, the article was updated in December of 2017, so almost an entire year into the Trump presidency, but Surges of immigrants isn't something that can be controlled, it's how many get in that is the question, and to my knowledge, Donald didn't let too many illegals in.
And even then, I don't know what was edited or changed. For all I know, they could've just corrected some spelling errors.
If I'm wrong, please correct me, I'd actually like to keep talking to you because I think we've got a constructive conversation goin' here.
Actually, I think it firstly is a bit overrated for some weird psychological reasons (a kind of soppiness the internet likes), it is good but doesn't necessarily stand above many classic episodes. Secondly, and more importantly, I think it is actually one of the episode types or modes that is most likely to reoccur and that is most present in modern Simpsons... A quasi-serious drama, where jokes fall to the wayside (it wasn't like that there, but is so now), and the plot is overconstrued and some kind of serious point (including some completely personal point about a character) is tried way too hard. That is, they don't make episodes that live up to it, but it's definitely one of the episodes that is particularly similar to modern Simpsons.
Me: haha, simpsons funny This guy, an intellectual:
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Jay M2021-09-06 15:02:11 (edited 2021-09-06 15:03:31 )
What's almost scary is that I myself feel almost the same way that Grimes does towards nearly every person I see (but for reasons unlike Grimes). Even when I see everyone driving new vehicles, and I'm lucky that the one I'm driving is still running. Sometimes it seems like everyone is wealthy but me. It instantly gives me an attitude towards most people. Though I never show it.
I drove my used rent-a-car for years until the transmission finally gave out. I began making payments on a brand new car after that, but was only able to do so because my mother had died rather suddenly and left me some money.
Not knowing that, you would see my new car as a sign that I have some level of success. The reality is that I suffered a crippling lose, and would rather have my mother back.
Point is, reality isn't always what it seems to be. Ultimately you're just comparing yourself to what you imagine other people's lives are like, and then getting mad about what you imagined.
@C-RT That's a good point. Though sometimes you can just tell when a person is wealthy. Not only from their vehicles, but even where they live (and how well landscaped they are) etc. Even my own truck was just given to me by my dad a couple months before he died. I might be just riding a bicycle right now if it wasn't for that. I've always had problems with envy. It's one of my downfalls. I avoid people when they're too successful or wealthy. I hold grudges towards people I don't even know. Hehe. I know I should just be grateful for what I do have, and stop comparing myself with others. But it's hard.
Not everyone lives the kind of life where they can afford to slack off at everything they don't absolutely love. Some people have bosses that know what they're doing, others have jobs or obligations that they might not enjoy doing but are necessary to do well for the safety and well being of others.
@Remember to take showers please yeah by “work like homer” I meant give the absolute minimum energy to ensure everything’s working properly if you don’t like or feel a sense of accomplishment from your job. Ofc you’re not literally gonna be sleeping on the job if you’re working at a nuclear plant and don’t like your job.
The title is true bc Grimes is the one man who went out of his way to point out Homer's lack of competence, just to be told to his face that people don't care. He's astounded at the crazy amount of privilege that Homer has, and probably shouldn't have. Bc no matter how hard ppl like Grimes work to achieve what they want, there is always a Homer who just gets things handed to him.
Even Simpson’s today I find to be still good and can still give me a chuckle. Sure they are not the same, but I don’t think they suck either. Some people just say they suck worhiut watching it
Amen! Idk how people still think we live in a meritocracy. Even emp after all that analysis chalks up fairness to just random chance and ignores every social factor that plays into success/failure. We gotta fix the system in order to fix ourselves.
@Matthew Wait, there's a part of the video that states it's wrong to identify success/failure with your own worth and also relating it to your wealth. Minute 22:30 more or less, whe he starts talking about 'The death of a salary man'.
@Matthew As Emp points out Homer is Noble because he is abusing the system not fighting against it. I Feel like in the long term enough Homers are like termites to society gnawing away at the inside of the system to eventually force change. If a Termite tried to take over someone's house it would be squashed.
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Extra Crispy2021-03-03 00:59:28 (edited 2021-03-03 01:03:45 )
@Flying Chimp I don't think that's a fair assessment. Homer more effectively embraces nihilism than anything else, and realistically if everyone was nihilist, and while aspiration does often lead to disappointment, nihilism just as equally leads to general decay. You can't have innovation or improvement if the best you'll get from the world is an embracing of mediocrity, or in the very least a lack of care for anything outside of your own life. If you care about how Matt feels, you're just as equally the point of contention made in that episode as you state matt to be; focused on the wishes of others, and not simply satisfied with yourself.
If you want to embrace the practicalities of the episode, your critique of others becomes effectively unnecessary, because worrying about others becomes unnecessary, because the outcome of others beyond those directly connected to the outcome of your own life are irrelevant. Unless of course, you aren't a nihilist.
@Extra Crispy nihilism is truth, nothing we do matters so why not shoot for the stars because in reality in the grand scheme of things we have nothing to lose. What can be more motivating then that to risk as much as you can to improve current situations if not the environment at least your own.
@CraftyArts Most people grow out of Nihilism when they reach their 30s or so. Mostly because at that point they've actually experienced enough of the world that they've been talking shit about their whole lives and realized the bullshit of such a mindset in a vacuum
@Familia Youtuber You have to accept nihilism and at the same time act as if it doesnt exist. It is true. But believing it to be true and acting as if it is so will not help you in any way shape or form. It is one of the few forms of truth that is not useful.
@Shaun Robinson Yeah, kinda only useful when trying to be a smartass about stuff. Being right does not make that kind of interactions where your argument or passion is called irrelevant less annoying
Familia Youtuber2021-03-03 22:14:09 (edited 2021-03-03 22:14:31 )
@Shaun Robinson It may just be me, but I've had my fair share of interactions where, mid conversation/argument, someone just pulls a dc;da or nihilism to try and stop instead of either changing mind or elaborating further, it's a bit of a non-argument because it's just a fact of life turned get out of jail free card
Everybody is happy in Springfield, the system is working as intended. Grimes was just too up tight and entitled, believing he was owed some level of reverence within his personal value system, failing to consider the world outside of his own beliefs. this video analysis misses this entirely.
@CraftyArts Nihilism is an admission of defeat in a meaningless universe. You never were supposed to have any goal from the start, but if you wanted to believe in religion, you could. You could choose to make meaning out of your existence, make your own and the lives of others a bit more meaningful, but you instead chose to dismiss that possibility and instead chose to believe that any venture into meaning is a waste, or worse yet a delusion. Sure you could believe this, but it's not going to make you anything other than depressed.
Besides, it's impossible to know what lies beyond death, or what tomfoolery exists beyond this life, if there even is anything beyond it - who'd know? nobody's really come back from being fully dead to tell us how things have gone for them. The whole aspect of the brain experiencing hallucinations during these moments of cardiac arrest in hospitals, or whatever else tend to make any reproducibility and accuracy as well.
You're best off worrying about finding a place for yourself in this short existence of yours, and making it as meaningful as possible. Otherwise, your enjoyment of life will be tainted by your edgy 12 year old syndrome philosophy values.
@Flying Chimp The point of the video is for emp to share his reasons why he thinks there would never ever be an episode like this. It’s a video essay my guy. Just cause you really like/agree with his analysis doesn’t make it correct or even the only way to look at it. You make a fine sheep my friend :)
@Evan 2 electric boogaloo lol I like your analogy with that and I totally get what you mean. Idk how serious you’re taking this cause it’s a YouTube comment but to me, there’s too many people who can’t be a homer/termite because they just trying to survive. Fighting against the status quo will bring the house down faster than exploiting it, sitting back and letting it run its course and letting people suffer.
@CraftyArts that sounds like the opposite of nihilism lol. Nihilistic people wouldn’t shoot for the stars cause nothing matters. But I mean hey, I would rather ppl be hopeful and call it nihilism than actually nihilistic
@E I didn’t, the point is for emp to share his reasons on why there won’t be an episode like this again. This isn’t the “true hidden meaning”, it’s one mans opinion and we are allowed to disagree with it you sheep on a stick lol
@Axileus I ain’t even consider that, that’s a pretty good analysis. I think that can draw a lot of parallels between how he functions in Springfield and how people irl conduct themselves with political ideologies. When people get too entrenched in an ideology they will never be able to step back and think of the world outside of their own perspective.
@Matthew Look up "optimistic nihilism" I guess another way to describe the state of mind is that for many people don't bother trying things over fear of loss or failure. Or they settle for the bare minimum because they think there is some afterlife awaiting after they die. Sometimes (stress sometimes) you get the "mirror effect" as a result where people look at their own lack of success and then degrade others who have success (depends on how you measure success for yourself of course). Though without talking further a good book to look into is "The subtle art of not giving a F*ck"
growing up with the simpsons, my view is that it dealt with events that were happening at the ime, and even had a point of view toward ideology from time to time, but the simpsons family and their personalities made the show.
Writers used hot button issues to give characters room to develop their personality, not the reverse.
The boy down a well episode is one of the most memorable episodes, maybe the best episode of the series. Mass hysteria is generated with almost no input from any one person, aside from a boy's prank blown out of proportion. At the finale Bart learns an invaluable lesson in honesty.
In this way the simpsons is a modern telling of Mark Twain. Twain and the simpsons both honour individual human personalities and personal relationships.
@Evan 2 electric boogaloo lmso no Homer keeps the system going jsut barely enough because he doesnt give neough of a shit to want change, its a terrible outlook
@Matthew Idk why people in the comments don't see it this way, systemic issues are definitely important here. If everyone just sat back and kept working instead of trying to change things we would still be laboring in fields for feudal lords. Sure, lots of issues and are because life isn't fair. That's understandable. But some things are, in fact, within our power to change if we actually take action and work together. Homer's approach is not perfect, nor is Grimes. And I love EmpLemon's work, but he is not the arbiter of truth, this is an opinion piece.
@CraftyArts That would be a contradiction, though. If nihilism is true, how can an environment be "improved?" There is no real existing standard that a situation can be improved or progressed toward. A standard of goodness would just be puffs of breath or ink on a page, nothing more.
excellent point! here's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
Nice deep dive into this episode, thanks for posting it
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Gerdy the grey2021-10-25 12:12:11 (edited 2021-10-25 12:13:53 )
Damn this was really good. The only thing that makes me more impressed with the Simpsons is that there is a clip that corresponds to literally every single thing he says. Very impressive that you were able to do this.
The thing about this episode is that it puts me on both sides equally, homers just having fun with life but is unaware of his laziness and grimes is a hard worker but he pushes his issues onto homer when he is completely unaware
The thing about this episode, to me, is that a lot of people miss the point. Grimes isn't a good guy, nor should he represent you.
Grimes is a materialistic person that only focuses on what he sees. His entire breakdown on the Simpsons' House emphasizes this, since all of Grimes' points are easily countered. "You guys live in an extremely big, amazing house" (Except EVERYBODY in Springfield has a house that's that big, and the Simpsons' House specifically was bought by ruining Abe's life and it's also usually in complete disrepair), "You have an amazing family that you don't deserve" (Homer, atleast back then, was probably one of the sweetest men on America), "Your wire is beautiful" (She isn't, according to most people, and she also has HEAVY anger management problems), "Your daughter is too intelligent" (That isn't a bad thing at all), "Your son owns a factory" (Not only was he not weirded out by this, he also considers it a bad thing).
Grimes focuses his anger on Homer when Homer is, ironically, the last person who deserves it. He's by far one of the nicest people in Springfield even if he does have his bad days, he's constantly in poverty (Roasting on an Open Fire, anyone?), and he's an intelligent man that stays stupid because the town prefers him that way (HOMR). Grimes may have had a tragic childhood, but that doesn't allow him to disrespect anybody he wants (Especially Homer, who had an even worse childhood). And even if he was that stupid and unjustly rewarded, there are many people who deserve to be called "What's wrong with America" more than Homer. What about Wiggum? Quimby? And the person ruling over the entire power plant who's established as a complete cheapskate? Grimes throws all his rage at Homer because he's a coward and can't bare to directly get through Burns' bullshit. And the irony is that Homer ADMIRES Grimes, and tries to get close to him just to be friends, but Grimes' damaged ego pushes him to the brink of insanity, when ironically he was at the perfect place to live in since Springfield has so little safely regulations he could just act like Homer and get away with it. It's pretty similar to Sideshow Bob's case, where rather than try to take down Krusty until he manages to, he attacks Bart because of revenge. Except Bob atleast KNOWS Bart, Grimes just puts Homer as the walking representation of a lazy idiot within a few days of knowing him. Grimes doesn't represent the downtrodden citizen, he represents the petty squabbler who assumes someone innocent represents a pure stereotype and creates a strawman, rather than trying to go against the people who deserve to be punished.
TL, DR: Grimes doesn't see the forest for the trees. He's too focused on beating someone else down, despite not having any idea about their personal life, instead of going against the system. He also has a massive ego, leading to him not using the opportunity that Springfield's lack of regulations gives. Is he relatable? Yes, but in the worst way possible. Grimes represents our inner ego and blindness, and should not be appealed towards.
@TragedyplusTime I don't know if I want to take advantage of the lack of regulations. I don't feel comfortable selling cockroach puree for sandwich filling. The problem with your last statement is that Springfield as a place doesn't operate in real life. The fact that Springfield abandons its previous location after Homer botched his job as the city's trashman hammers home they are not representative of a real-life city. They are at best a setting for a sitcom where situations like Ned Flanders being run over by a police car as a side gag has no lasting consequences. The way I see it, Frank Grimes is an expy of us in the real world showing how we cannot live in a toon world with their inexplicable impossibilities...
@TragedyplusTime when grimes was talking about his family, he didn't say that stuff as if it was a bad thing. He meant the opposite. He was pointing out that Homer had all these good things but he's lazy and doesn't work hard enough to deserve any of it
@pooper dooper That's what I was saying lmao, Grimes only sees the good in Homer's family yet only sees the bad in Homer himself
Also Homer may be lazy but he's been a much better father than Grimes would ever be, yet Grimey thinks of himself so highly that he bitches about Homer without even knowing him
@TragedyplusTime but do you realize the creators were not creating The Simpsons as role models? You do realize that this is entertainment right? Do you think that the writers feel that people should act like the characters in The Simpsons? I think you and the person who analyzed this video are both pushing your political agendas off of a comedy cartoon series.... instead of just enjoying it for what it is, entertainment.
this isn't "just entertainment", nothing valuable is
this is social criticism, they did not make The Simpsons to create role models, but to depic the role models we had irl and understand how we can laugh at ourselves and our own flaws through a fictional show
I don't know if I want to be like Homer, but I'm sure I don't want to be like Grimes. The show was, once again, making us look at ourselves and think if that is how we want to be. And if that isn't social criticism, I don't know what is
@Gabriel López I think you have it slightly the other way around. I wouldn't say 180, degrees but let's say 140. Do you really think the writers are anything like Homer Simpson? The episode was saying why the hell does an ignorantly Blissful person get to get somewhere in life while not really giving a s*** about other people besides himself, while your Average hard worker who is AWARE of his surroundings gets so pissed off at the injustice of it all, trying to do things the right way, that he winds up going overboard. So yes, I think the episode was about saying that these aren't role models, it is just entertainment, and if you think that the Simpsons family reflected the average American family at the time, well, I don't know what ideological or political background you come from, but my very first impression was definitely not familiarity. Again, it's entertainment. But the protagonist in the story was not Homer, it was Grimes. But unfortunately he took it too far.
@Gabriel López and I agree it was definitely social criticism, but Who side are you on? Homers?? I think the writers actually wanted you to be on Grimes side....
@CeeStyleDj Read my comment, Homer cares for his family much more than himself whereas Grimes is an envious prick, and targets the supposed "Wrong american" instead of the executive.
The writers HAD to be on Homer's side. By this point, Homer's character was very developed. His backstory (Which nullifies Grimes' tragic upbringing), his motivations, and most important his beef with Ned. The only way the writers could write an episode like this and be on Frank's side is if they didn't watch all the previous seasons, or were huge hypocrites towards Homer.
I can’t believe he went through this entire video without mentioning Graggle Simpson? He may have had like 1 or 2 scenes, but he embodied the heart of the show.
I don't think the word is fairness. For Grimey, he's obsessed with meritocracy. He, like everyone else who has ever laboured, is in love with the idea that his hard work is worth something meaningful, and that he, or humanity at large, will benefit holistically from his hard work. The realisation that it hasn't, and won't is completely maddening.
The socio-economic doom spiral of living in our time is absurd. People need stories of justice, fairness, and meritocracy to accept the system that they live within, maintain, and can never escape. Homer's retreat is ignorance, but not everyone is afforded that blessing.
That concept is visited in Season 12, Episode 9 when Homer gains average intelligence and has his own grimesian nightmare, faced with a world gone mad.
You only become the villain if the people change their minds about you. The people are deflecting responsibility and blame and need a scapegoat...think about it.
I remember "Life in Hell" from the Los Angeles Reader. I just looked it up, and I just found out that another strip it carried, "The Angriest Dog in the World", was written by David Lynch.
Dude, I didn't even make it passed the "Keeps" add at the start and you've already got me. PRIMO choice of backdrop for that, made me say "Holy shit!" out loud, pause the video and leave this comment.
This episode made me cry as a child, and when I went to my parents for comfort... much to their chagrin and my embarrassment I couldn't even explain why. Thank you for reminding me that exists, and thank you even more for taking the time to explain why it had so much more of an impact on me than every other Simpsons episode. The Simpsons can never be described as unimpactful, they often made me feel sympathy, or feel sonder, or laugh so hard I fell off the couch and couldn't breathe, but no other episode did make me run crying to my parents at the unfairness of the world.
@Estin Sidebottom they just wish they were given half this much attention as a child, ignore them. Also using caps before every word is a terrible habit to get into, I promise from experience.
I worked with a Homer Simpson once. Not a bad guy per se, just a really apathetic worker. Despite this, he not only managed to stay employed, but he had a higher pay than everybody else in the department just because of his seniority
When emplemon posts a new vid, tears of joy roll down your eyes because no matter what he’s talking about it’s still attention grabbing and super entertaining.
Agreed, I saw this and thought "oh dang, I know what I'm watching later, maybe I'll just see a bit now." It's been about 45 minutes since I thought that, having now watched the entire thing.
When you described everything Gen x went through, it really puts into perspective how messed up the world always is, it's not like all this crazy stuff going on today is unique to us, its just as generations go by we dont like talking about the bad things
@Trippa Snippa there's this song from the 60's called "eve of destruction" by Barry Mcguire, it's also about the world exploding (it literally has a line in there "the eastern world it is exploding") like listening to the lyrics it sounds eerily current. you just need to change a few words and you'd have a modern day protest song. everything from racial tensions in the US to global politics involving stuff like the middle east or tensions with China it's all in there. even the space race gets mentioned which also seems to have come around again with all these billionaires and their space programs.
in any case listening to this song makes me feel better in a weird way. the world has always been on the verge of destruction yet we're all still here. think it's kind of a case of same shit different day TBH.
@Zwenk Wiel Sounds very interesting, i just think you cannot teeter on the edge for too long. Eventually we will fall it is inevitable and the way society and the world is now, nothing makes sense anymore
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Alex Willis2021-09-05 02:34:37 (edited 2021-09-05 02:34:55 )
It was pretty much just the 90s that were alright.
well, you see, back before 1990, people had a reason to be afraid and real issues with social justice. Today, people have taken first world problems from being a meme, to a way of life.
The main issue between Homer and Grimes is that Grimes, as you said, has this concept of fairness and when things are unfair he takes out his anger on Homer; but fairness isn't random. In the case of Homer and Grimes, they are co-workers, working for the same boss, Mr. Burns. The fact that Grimes protests the unfairness of how different workers are treated and what they get shows the arbitrary nature of what that workplace really is, and how the man who runs it is. Burns is completely indifferent to the details of his employees; they're all replaceable to him, and he has all the power in the dynamic. Grimes is demanding a moral standard to an institution which can define its own standards of morality, and in this case, it's indifferent arbitrariness. Grimes should be upset at Burns, not Homer. Homer isn't the cause of Grimes' misfortunes; Burns is. But Grimes never considers this bigger picture, instead fighting against his fellow worker because he believes fundamentally in this concept of morality that doesn't exist in the workplace, and never has. Grimes believes a fairy tale; Homer realizes his situation and thus has no allegiance to the false idea of hard work being rewarded by someone who is indifferent to it.
A lot of wage slaves get upset at the idea that their taxes pay social welfare for someone who isn't working. Non workers are often seen as the scum of society. The upset should be at corporations and billionaires hiring accountants to use every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes.
@Paul Kelly I think I can be equally mad at the bureaucrat and state legislature that taxes me and middle America while also being in bed with big business
Things are bad because the people who were supposed to govern over the market have been seduced by the merchants, most elected officials become part of the 1%
The idea that resenting welfare is some misguided anger that should be reserved for the rich is a derivative explanation for a position that many people hold and would be willing to break down for you if you listen
@PodreyJenkin138 I pretty much agree with your first two paragraphs, with the wealthy’s tax avoidance and evasion, and offshoring of profits, the middle class does bear a disproportionate tax burden compared to the GDP distribution.
However, I can’t see how that ties into resenting welfare, as if welfare policies ended, it wouldn’t hurt the wealthy and would only hurt the poor, who are also getting screwed-over anyway. So I would suggest desiring and advocating for a rework of tax brackets rather than resenting welfare, personally. (Especially since corporate welfare and military expenditures vastly outnumber those social programmes.)
@Kaitlyn L no they don't, social programs are the largest budget expenditure at least in the US and has been for decades, this is not for discussion this is a fact based upon the self published budget reports by the treasury department and congress
Homer's enemy is down right mean spirited, it doesn't end with any sort of lesson to be learned or positive message, in fact it does the opposite. It subverts a big rule in general story telling of "If you work hard you'll be rewarded"
It does end with a positive message, don't compare yourself to others and live life peacefully
People who treat Grimes as the hero forget how much of a prick he is, how quickly he assumes Homer's lack of merit just because of a job he may not even like (He doesn't), and how he goes straight against the innocent worker instead of the corrupt executive, Burns. That's why he died being ridiculed.
@TragedyplusTime my man, I think you didn't get the point of the episode. It is supposed to be mean, it is supposed not to teach the viewer anything. The message of this episode is "being a piece of sh*t lazy asshole is way better than being a hard worker". At least inside the Simpson universe.
It's making fun of the classic moral trope lesson that has been beaten into out heads since childhood. Take the 3 little pigs for example. This episode is like if somehow the first 2 lazy pigs are rewarded for being lazy and the last one is punished for being inteligent and hard working, and while he gets eaten by the wolf, his brothers somehow by accident become rich and live nicely. It subverts the expected morality, which is why Simpsons was considered counter cultural back then
the reason why homers enemy hits so hard is because it says something everybody allready knows is true but is afraid to say the american dream is a lie
@Nocansee green In what way? Sub-Saharan Africa was largely untouched by outsiders up until the 1400s. African people were stretched and scattered across the massive continent, having relatively little contact with each other and leaving entire territories unexplored (such as modern day South Africa) until settlers arrived (transportation being very difficult since Africans lacked domesticated riding animals and seaworthy boats). And frankly, I would wager that foreign settlers were only a boon for them when it comes to technological progress.
Every ethnic group can make up their own oppression narrative based on some historical conflict. But you have to ask yourself how Africa still manages to be so technologically stunted to this day. Imperialism is over with, slavery is outlawed nearly everywhere except Africa itself, and the West has donated trillions of dollars to them in the naïve hope that we could elevate these countries to our level. At the end of the day, a country is a product of its people.
@Nocansee green I haven't reached that part of the video yet but what's happened to Africa has happened to more or less every country at some point. Colonialism is part of it but by no means the whole story.
India was colonized too, maybe even worse than the africans got it (Then again, their occupation was not necessarily negative in a local progress and living standards sense), and they're currently doing noticably better than anyone in Africa, even Ethiopia Also people who go "muh colonializm bad" also tend to forget that Ethiopia, never touched by colonizers except briefly by fascist occupation in the late 1930s, isn't doing much better than anywhere else in Africa.
At least I'm pretty sure that the italian occupation of ethiopia came to an end when they lost the war, I think they only got to keep libya, but I could be wrong on that. WW2 is not my preferred time of study in history
18:13 "Lust" is definitely not a sin that homer is guilty of. He he is reaching for the gummy Venus stuck on the babysitters butt; he is in fact so overcome with his gluttonous urges that he is oblivious to the female posterior before him. He also resisted the urge to sleep with his attractive coworker Mindy who threw herself at him. I'd actually say that he epitomize the top 4 sins, but not the bottom 3.
I think what this episode shows is how the economy has changed. In the past in the US a hard worker could dream about buying their own house, have a car, etc, etc... but now a days, (or even then that episode was released) hard working class, or even people with high education degrees struggle to get what in the past was standard for mid class, now students have a lot of debt, salaries are low compared to inflation so, buying a house is not a plan anymore... it is a dream
5:05 Jeez, it's no wonder my mom was goth in her teen years. (Then again, I was unsociable (this hasn't changed much) and a fan of Green Day and all of those moody 2000s bands like Blue October, Fallout Boy and Panic! at the Disco in my teen years so I'm not one to talk, though the reasons behind it are entirely different)
Also, now that I think about it, it's disturbing how history repeated itself for both us millennials and the zoomers. Save for the "threat of nuclear annihilation" part because no one in their right mind believes Kim Jong-un has the cojones to actually fire one and I don't remember that remotely being a thing when I was growing up. The USSR had dissolved when I was just four years old and the cold war had ended when I was two years old.
You should do a video on season 1 episode 9, where Marge is considering having an affair. Her and Homer have a midlife crisis because their marriage is failing, and it starts to affect Bart, Lisa, and Maggie (probably) as well.
"In the end, his obsession with fairness ultimately drives him mad."
Probably one of the most relevant lines in the entire video imo. It can be applied to so many groups of people today from multiple political persuasions, left, right, and center.
@The Ol' Winkle Dink the funny thing is, I don't consider myself a centrist, and like I said, I would even apply this line of thinking to some centrists themselves.
That's just militant political activism in a nutshell. Anyone can take things too far. Forgive me for generalizing a bit, but so many people these days aren't civil anymore. All they care about is beating their opposition and pushing their agenda, which entirely defeats the purpose of civic debate. We shouldn't be treating politics like its a sport.
I'd say this hyper competition isn't a new thing, exclusive to "these days" either, it's always an inevitability, in a sense. The obsession of fairness had been one that has essentially existed forever, as one is always comparing themselves to another. Wars of conquest, reform, the French Revolution revolve around fairness. The United States and even totalitarian states such as the Soviet Union, and the German Reich(In a Racist Sense, fairness as a privilege for only germans), had/have this obsession. It's a universal to want to be treated equally, to be treated "fairly". But like many things, fairness is arbitrary, undefined, and by extension of this, conflicts surrounding fairness are inevitable.
@Mallow Perhaps I judged you too harshly. This line of thinking is literally the centrist motto. "Oh both sides are bad and both do bad things so to be fair i won't support either." In other words, yeah i agree with you.
@The Ol' Winkle Dink Not in the traditional sense of course, moreso a freakish racist anti-semitic one. "Fairness" for germans only. Obviously horrible. Sorry for confusion, I should have clarified or made my point clearer. I see now how it could have been misinterpreted.
@milesperhour ah, alright, you good then. Although tbf the point of a democracy is to make things as fair as possible, especially in a governmental sense
@The Ol' Winkle Dink And no one should be civil with a Communist. Right now, the left is dominated with people that want to radically change or destroy everything in an attempt to "level the playing field" and also cling to ideals from a bygone era that were just as wrong now as they were then. The only difference is for whatever damn reason, appealing to peoples sense of envy and greed is just too strong so that bastard Marx lives on when he should've died unknown and unimportant. At least with the Nazi, it's a more pragmatic form of his idiotic ideas that's upfront with it's evil.
Yeah, it's in the very rules of nature. You can't choose to avoid accepting the difficulties of life, to overcome them you have to adapt while staying above the waves. When nothing pushes you to rise up to better yourself you fall into a cycle of letahrgy.
@The Ol' Winkle Dink exactly, and similarly, one shouldn't be civil when dealing with a communist, as they have ruined even more lives, killed even more people, and continue to do so at an exponentially superior rate to "muh not sees," and I'm saying this as a Jewish person.
In fact, anyone who has lived only in the relative luxury of western democracies but supports communism should be treated as the brainlets they are, as only experiencing such a regime first-hand (not just as a tourist either, but an actual long-time citizen) can provide a sufficient idea of what the ideology leads to in practice, not just in fanciful theories.
In short, one shouldn't tolerate such defective things anywhere near them.
And yes, I was born and raised in a communist country, and though my family was already poor, the Party took everything from us, including the small house my grandparents had built, and we were stuffed into one of those cramped, tiny, poorly built blocks with no compensation for what was taken from us. All that considered, if there was a button that would dematerialize every last one of them, I'd press it twice.
@4nt don't apologise, that's pretty much right on the mark. That's why vocal left leaners are preachy annoying while vocal right leaners just spout dumbass memes and desperately try to push buttons, they think this is some kind of game that's supposed to be "won".
@MrLuckless marx shouldn't be forgotten, most history is recorded for a reason no matter how wrong it might've been. Communism isn't good, but recording it helps us look back to better society today
@The Ol' Winkle Dink Which communist regime did you survive? Were you a Party member? Or are you one of those western armchair "communists" (😂) who have zero firsthand experience of living with the results of their ideology when put into practice nationwide? I survived East European communism, as a minority no less, which wasn't easy. My family's experience was similar to Gal's like described above. Let me guess, tho: "B-b-BuT tHaT wAsN't ReAl CoMmUnIsM!"🤣
I lived around thousands of communists for years and I had to conclude that literally all of them are smooth brains, cowards, evil, or any combination thereof, no exceptions, and being civil with them is not only pointless but harmful. Being a centrist about that would be cowardice.
@Jinxed Swashbuckler I mean, your guess is correct, it wasn't real communism. You laugh, but its true, and you know its true.
With that aside, it should be noted that I am aware of the failures of MARXISM-LENINISM, as seen in the soviet union, and don't support the actions of the soviet union. I never said I supported their actions. the "communist" you're describing seems to be a tankie? People who are supporters of Stalin? I disagree with that position, its pretty clear Stalin was bad. I am talking about communism IN THEORY. Also, no fascist regime survived either, so I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make.
A true communist, which I would consider as someone who works for socialism first with the end goal of a communist system, is INFINITELY better than nazism, and I think you would agree with me, unless you don't know what you're talking about. It's pretty hard as a minority, if you are one, to support fascism.
@Mallow Do you know anything about communism? A minute's glance at the wikipedia page would tell you what you need to know. Obviously that's the ideal though, which is hard to put into place in practice. I think its reasonable to assume though that it would be better than fascism.
The worst part is that the tragedy of Grimes in the political aspect is kind of an inevitability. Ever since the Middle ages people just keep killing each other for ideological differences, and like how others have pointed out, in the latter 200 years it has just gotten worse. I personally have resigned from discussing politics altogether because I have lost very good friends over it.
@The Ol' Winkle Dink first, pardon the deliberately misspelled words; it seems Susan doesn't like us discussing this subject.
Now, why do you conflate Fascism with the not sees? They aren't the same thing, obviously. Surely you can list a few key differences if you know what you're talking about or at least do a quick google search and copy/paste if you don't. Could you then explain why you're using them interchangeably, like you did in your reply to the other survivor of your ideology?
Could you also give any examples of where communism was not an abject failure that lead to immeasurable death and suffering?
For instance, the Holodomor is one of the greatest acts of evil in the history of the world and it's just many of the "accomplishments" of your dear comrades. That little feat cost millions of lives, snuffed out in one of the cruellest ways imaginable.
If that wasn't "real communism," who then qualify as purveyors of the one true communism? Which country has implemented this mythical Real Communism(TM)? I'll hazard a guess that the answer is "none" and yet you're still convinced if we just tried it one more time , this time surely we'd get it right, no?
In case it matters for some reason, this is coming from an ethnic and sexual minority, which were both targeted by those not sees. That's how evil communism is to millions who have actually experienced it and lived to tell the tale, like I have.
You come off like a neo-not .. s e e who's telling a WWII vet "oh, that wasn't real ***ism, real ***ism has never been tried, but trust me, we totally should!" The answer is and remains "No, please visit the nearest possible helicopter as soon as possible." Is that non-centrist enough?
@Grilly Grilly that isn't the point of political theory... There are people who are unironic anarcho capitalists, but they still want to give their shit a try
@rainbow2406 panda although there are far less of them than left or right wingers, I still find a lot of centrists to be similarly obsessed with this idealized fairness.
Wait, Matt Groening grew up in Springfield, Oregon??? I lived there for a couple years. Full of tweakers and crazy people. Couple of the most eventful years of my life. That's so funny!
“Inconvenience is the price you pay for unconditional affection” Jesus that made me sit up, Fuck this whole video is deep. Impeccable job dude, seriously.
if you liked this idea I recommend watching 'My neighbours the Yamadas', the father gives a very similar speech. Now that I'm typing this out I realize that the Yamadas are quite similar to the Simpsons in some aspects.
On principle I like this line, though it doesn't really make sense. Inconvenience as the "price you pay" makes that affection conditional. The condition for the affection is inconvenience.
The Simpsons was such a great show for the first 7 or 8 seasons... then they lost their way with episodes like 'Das Bus' and "Simpson Tide'. Those were the two that jumped the shark.
The best ending The Simpsons could get is a meta one that takes place after Season 7 where everyone has aged and that seasons 1 through the last were an in universe Syndicated Sitcom based on the lives of the Simpson family.
So basically season 1 through 7 happened. And then in universe they went and had lives of their own and then some tv exec wanted to make a show based on their lives. There could be meta commentary from the cast where they say things like "Yeah man, only the first 7 seasons were actualy based on events in our lives. 8 and afterwards was just syndication churning new things out cause folks kept tunin in yknow. Some were good. I like the movie haha"
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Jack Saveré2022-03-30 01:51:52 (edited 2022-03-30 01:54:50 )
I think the Simpsons has followed along the path it set to point out and criticize when it first started: fresh new realities subverting the old, and eventually becoming the old ones to later be criticized. It’s kind of a good thing the Simpsons has declined, because it shows that they were right all along. 👌🏻 edit: ahhh and now at 35:50 they lay out my thoughts just in time for me to realize my comment wasn’t relevant😂 how ironic
i like how he tricks Homer into participating in a childs contest. When homer wins and everybody cheers homer up he must have realized that not only homer is a lazy idiot but everybody in his whole workplace is LOL
He honestly should’ve realized that the owner of the nuclear factory was a lazy idiot when the man rejected a kids idea even when it powered the room and chose Homers weird idea that probably done nothing but add flair and used children for ideas.
I am in total agreement of everything in this video EXCEPT the shot you used to show Homer embodying 'Lust'. It's from the scene in 'Homer Badman' where he reaches for the Gummi Venus de Milo and NOT for her butt. If anything, that should be used for 'Gluttony'.
This episode is the deepest it ever got. All of the Simpsons imitators never dared to venture into such a real and unsettling topic. Frank Grimes was in the wrong series. Anywhere else he would have been right. He would have been a hero. That ending still makes me uncomfortable to this day. This is perhaps my favorite episode of the series. The Simpsons never before or after got so real.
these kinds of videos are like watching a flat earth documentary but better. They bring up these small things and spin them into something big, like putting a big meaning on a silly cartoon, but the points aren't infuriatingly stupid or bad. Good video.
New Simpsons isn’t bad, it’s just not incredibly amazing like it used to be. It’s like comparing a one hit wonder or bottom of the chart pop star to Michael Jackson. Obviously Jackson is better in most people’s eyes, but it doesn’t mean the rest of the top 40 are worthless, or that music is dead because Michael is dead. It’s a different show now, and that’s fine
While Frank Grimes is obviously a tragic irony & dark humor, it is also the show poking fun at itself. Grimes is rightfully shocked and appalled of the fact that Homer is an incompetent, happy-go-lucky safety inspector of a nuclear power plant which is also poking fun at ‘The Simpsons’ world in general that would allow this to happen.
I remember when I first watched this episode, my dad was eating something and when Grimes was telling Homer that they were enemies Homer says something like "ok, do I have to do anything?" At the end. My dad, who wasn't really watching burst out laughing at that. He's dead now (my dad) but that was something I remember about it, and it turned out to be one of my best memories of him. Strange how that happens.
The true loss in the Simpsons was when they no longer did satire and parody well. As Rageaholic once said after explaining that Itchy and Scratchy was once a parody of the morality police once targeting Tom and Jerry, "The Simpsons used to do parody before they became one."
im from Europe and here it works the same The older generation has classical, religious and familial values while the younger generation tends to be more.... rebelious
Frank Grimes was capable, and definitely deserved better. But he was a sullen sad sack, with a chip on his shoulder, who believed the world owed him. The world is full of Frank Grimes'
Life is one of the most unfair yet forgiving things as well. Its not about the material things that make it worth living, but the people we share life with that makes it worth it. This episode of the Simpsons shows this greatly.
Man, this hits home. Funny enough I've been focusing a lot on a story specifically about the "give and take" cycle of life and how/why the balance becomes so upset so frequently. Every second of this video explains it so well. Working is important when it comes to a stable future and the well-being of others. But when life is a finite collection of moments, living in the present is how we'll truly be happy with just ourselves. It's about striking a balance between the two, the drive and the calm.
I still quite like the Simpson’s and have watched new episodes of the new seasons with mild interest, but I understand why people say that it’s fallen so far from grace. When the counter culture becomes the norm and apart of what it used to mock, it kinda ruins the point of the original art no matter how good it still is
Frank Grimes proved that No matter how kind Homer was he would be a pain in the a** Even tho he did not directly try to annoy Frank i wish that Frank survived and stayed around for at least å few more episodes
Growing up, I had a particularly nihilistic family. People who were just naturally bitter, who had to work hard and take everyone’s shit, and then there was me, this kind, cheery dude who played video games a lot.
The first time I watched this episode, it also happened to be one of the first episodes of the Simpsons I had ever seen. I was mortified by the conclusion, and I felt nothing but sympathy for Grimes.
Thing is, I actually went through a period of my life when I was beginning to feel spiteful and bitter toward everything. I started to grow up, and I related to Grimes. Big time. I was surprised to learn that I was a lot like Frank Grimes.
Flash forward to me now. 28 years old in April, which is about a month from now. I have seen more episodes of the Simpsons, and funny enough, I relate greatly to the Simpsons, in particular, Homer.
By now I am an associate at an Amazon Warehouse. I help my sister raise her 5 kids in a cramped 2 bedroom apartment in downtown Austin Texas. Have been helping her...since I was 16....
I’ve completed college, and successfully moved out of my humble home of Laredo Texas, a place rife with greed, ignorance, and selfishness.
Now I see this episode, and I’m surprised to say...I’m basically Homer Simpson.
In college, I learned that there was a bigger world out there, and I didn’t have to put up with everyone’s crap. The internet taught me that there were people like me, and I shouldn’t be ashamed of who I am. Living downtown on my own for a year helped me learn my strengths and assert my independence. I sacrificed a lot for my family unconditionally, and live for hilariously simple desires such as owning a bike and a small room with a bed. Vicarious situations such as going to work late, being late on my rent, things that just...work out.
I developed my fragile youthful personality, one that many disputed. I was told to grow up, stop being a kid. Truth is, I absorbed the discipline and sense of responsibility of an adult, but maintained my youthful outlook. I think many people have awoken this outlook as well, and it warms my heart.
That being said, politics aren’t my strong suit. Whenever I approached a topic, I found that I either made things worse for others or worse for me. Meanwhile, when I was passive, kept to myself, and agreed with and supported others, things went my way. I didn’t see a viewpoint I disagreed with, I saw a flawed viewpoint that I could reinforce and people I could inform.
Essentially, I was a happy go lucky fella, and ultimately at heart, I still am, but there is also always this part of me who is just Frank Grimes. That will never fade, and that’s okay.
I watch this episode now, and I find it amazing, especially now having Emplemon’s enlightened perspective. I think it’s amazing how wise the writing went into the show. As tragic as it is to see Frank Grimes fail, especially since he reminds me a lot of my family even now, it’s a stark reminder to put these ideals behind, that Frank Grimes is simply obsolete.
I don’t think the world would be better without Grimes. His problem, one many share, is his closed minded viewpoint. The sad thing is he is not entirely wrong. You can’t really correct him, or help him. You can only sort of feel bad for him, and hope he gets better.
I love you sis. You made life easy for me, and difficult for yourself. I hope you find happiness, the way I did.
19:24 the worst thing is that Burns got the power to become the man he is now, he aplied the lazzies-faire. He was in a pretty bad but comfortable status and never had the intention of changing it. Then, a chance of move on to a better status comes out of nowhere, he takes it, and here we are.
Danny Jammy2022-02-25 02:16:33 (edited 2022-02-25 02:26:59 )
"most unique character in simpsons history", if not in any tv show. it resonated with me as a child in a way i didnt understand, but i do now... i do now
Frank: "As of today, we are now enemies." Homer: "Okay.... Do I have to do anything?" This still makes me laugh, because I've been on both sides of that coin.
It's also perfect in context of the episode. With Grimes going out of his way to be "perfect" and prove to himself he is as worthless as he perceives Homer as, while Homer kinda just goes with it because it doesn't really effect him.
I remember the good days where the Simpsons's humour was actually multileveled and... funny.
Flanders: Homer, you are the worst neighbour I have ever met.
Homer: Wow, I got off pretty easy.
Whilst that line was in the context of Ned's other insults from that Hurricane episode, this could also showcase Homer's youthful outlook. Being deemed the worst is simple, yet effective to the eyes of those who cared. Homer wasn't one of those people.
@Matt J My reply was meant as commentary moreso regarding seeing both sides of an argument than the specific reason you used the analogy. The idea of "the coin" proposes a dualistic way of seeing the world, which works idiomatically, although flawed in that a 3 dimensional objects by definition can't have two sides. I think instead of two, you have a mind boggling series of infinite options, more akin to "the coin" spinning so fast as to create a hypersphere which leads you to The Multiverse ✨
Homer started it by eating his lunch, chewing up his pencils, not speaking up to Mr. Burns when Grimes saved his life when Homer almost drank that acid. Not-2-mention...Homer's UTTER disregard for his and everyone at the plant's safety and well-being, by ducking and not caring about his job. Plus, we know how frustrating it is when the lazy bum gets paid, does nothing or ruins everything and no consequences occur....but, if you aren't lazy and take initiative and sneeze wrong....you get demolished....that's Grimes issue.
"Heh, if you lived in any other country in the world, you'd have starved to death long ago." - Grimey
The ironic thing is, the same could maybe be said for him. He was abandoned by his parents at age 4. I think this line really highlights the dichotomy presented in this video.
Not only abandoned, he also got into a major explosion when he was 18 that made him 100% bedridden for years while also causing him to lose hearing and sense of touch.
@Javid Productions I guess you can call it a counter argument to his claim but the point still stands in the end, A person that was abandoned at the age of 4 or got bedridden at age 18 wouldn’t have even prospered a bit either.
@Predator 20357 Yes, he would be alive but it would seem near impossible for him to flourish. If anything being in Springfield where everyone is dumber and lazier than him could have been his big break. Imagine if he'd studied to do a job, he could have taken nearly anyone's role because no character is good at what they do in Springfield.
I think Grimes meant that Homer's laziness & incompetence would've had him starving in some ditch, if he lived in another country or time period. America gives safety blankets for some and harsh falls for others. It is implied (or at least not stated otherwise) that Grimes was was born in America but was given the short end of the stick, in life. Grimes probably did as we in America as he would've done being raised in some third world country. Whereas Homer can only function in America, with the cushy blankets.
yes indeed, not to mention even if he was picked up. If it wasn't a modern country what kind of life would he have had or education if any at all in the third world countries modern ones like ours exploit for cheap labor and resources.
@Jose Fabian He wouldn't have fun as HOMR proves, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be successful. He could for example blackmail Mr Burns about the nuclear plant issues.
We like homer for the same reason we like tony soprano, because its fiction or at the very least far away from our real life day to day lives (like john gotti, people think hes cool but if he was your next door neighbor you probably wouldn't care for the guy)
This is a wonderful examination, themes relevant in the mid nineties that are still at the heart of so many arguments in post industrial countries in 2021
How are you doing Emp. I'm not even subscribed to you but with how broken the algorithm is like you said in the last video I saw from you. It has only taken me to this. Seing you go into a deep dive of what what Homer's enemy brought to the series makes me wonder what you've felt about life recently. So I guess I just wanted to ask. You doing ok?
Another Masterpiece Emp, much like your final message, this was made not so much to really give us any kind of answers, so much as for us to ponder and ask the right questions about a show we once all loved. Truly an incredible piece if art.
I wonder what if Grimes met Flanders, and or see Homer's resentment and short coming compared him? Would that have saved him from going crazy, or something else?
I think it would’ve made him worse but saved his life
Grimes would be seeing somebody succeeding in the American dream even beyond Homer through hard work and a can do attitude which would make him not go through a “I’m Homer Simpson” however this sight mixed with the sight of Homer’s hatred at this great man would probably make homer even more so detestable to Grimes
In the book A Stranger In a Strange Land, a human raised by Martians on Mars has no sense of humor. At one point in the story he goes to a zoo. At the zoo there is a monkey enclosure where he sees a monkey with some food. A bigger monkey hits the smaller one and takes his food. The monkey with no food finds a monkey smaller than him and hits them stealing their food. The Mars Man laughs and realizes that comedy is derived from human suffering.
@Baconknight Productions yep the state of ceará em brasil is regarded as the one with the most funny people and the one with the most unforgiving weather conditions one example: a drought that lasted 15 years that happened in the 19th century.
I haven't seen that interview but I wonder if that "because it makes it look like there's somthing wrong with your tv set" was matt groening just being like "I am TIRED of explaining the stylistic choice to people I'm just gonna say some bullshit"
They could easily be considered higher-class now. I feel like this was foreshadowed in this episode. Frank Grimes worked his ass off his whole life yet never had much to show for it, or atleast that's what he thought. A good example of many people today, colleges and jobs only get harder and harder to find. As generations come and go, people only end up getting frustrated and desperate to even just make a living. This isnt to say Homer took an easy way out being apart of a generation where jobs and colleges were more common, but the fact that he made it through is a testament to people's change in attitude.
Yeah, I'm millennial and I always remember thinking Simpsons was an old boring show. I didn't see it as subversive whatsoever. Family Guy. Now that was subversive and irreverent comedy I could relate to.
@Random Guy on the Internet don't want to be political but all the affects we are seeing now is a prelude to a golble crisis. 17 CT style crisis. The next 20 years will be shit..we are going to be the lost ganaration.
Make a video about Mission Hill! It needs you Emp, it needs your reach, it’s needs your storytelling, the world has to know about the forgotten Bill Oakley/Josh Weinstein masterpiece and you’re the man to deliver it! You already did Home Movies now do Mission Hill please and thank you love you
On the one hand, yeah, Grimes is miserable because he's so uptight, but Homer can only afford to be as hapless and blissful as he is because he has all the things that Grimes blows up at him over. Yeah, his happiness doesn't come from his popularity and material wealth, but he can only pursue things that bring him happiness by having those things.
While Homer may be wealthy compared to Grimes, he's actually not successful at all from the perspective of the modern American ideal. The show consistently portrays the Simpsons as lower middle class, and plenty of episodes either focus on their financial struggles or include that as a B plot or backstory. In fact, the pivotal scene where Grimes comes to their house is even more complex than this video indicates, because Grimes's awe at the house is an ironic counterpoint to the many previous episodes that show the house in disrepair (not to mention that the house itself is actually quite modest). I wouldn't say that Homer can afford to be hapless and naïve because of his economic status. Part of the joke is that Homer should have died or become completely destitute by now, but simply hasn't. Meanwhile, Grimes's past is far more harrowing and merciless than anything Homer ever went through, yet everything he does to alleviate his station proves fruitless in the end.
There were times he didn't have popularity, or wealth. You cannot appreciate popularity or wealth if there aren't times you don't have it. Cherish your poverty and cherish how people don't know, or don't like you because it is the same thing as when they do like you, or when you do have wealth. Or what you could do is stop comparing and the dichotomy will disappear. By the way if the dichotomy can disappear and you believe you gather happiness from it then your happiness is premised on an illusion. If your happiness comes from nothing then just be happy as you are. Problem solved your welcome. Now stop being a crank.
@Vellichor For someone who lives in a single room dwelling, no multi-room house is 'modest'. For someone who shares a single room with several others, no private single room is 'modest'. And for someone who lives on a private island, their home is 'modest' because they don't rule a kingdom from a literal palace. One of the biggest problems with inequality is that it's so hard to see it from the inside.
@Amy Mason I would say that's part of the bit the episode is doing; Grimes sees the Simpson home as the height of success even though the show as a whole takes great pains to show the family struggling or even barely getting by.
The fact you did a Vsauce style episode even with the random tangents that then make sense
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Black Caviar2022-01-03 17:37:13 (edited 2022-01-03 17:37:24 )
ok so Theme here
1 Sponge Bob - because there is One thing, that made Sponge Bob different from other shows 2 MNR - because it was a Competition between two Wrestling shows 3 Dale Ernhardt - because his number on Car was 3 4 Stanislav Petrov - if it wasn't for him - fourth world war would be Fought with Sticks 5 Hungrybox - because Five Melee Gods 6 Homers Enemy - because there are six Simpsons, I guess.
Which means that number 7 would be... I don't know. Who knows what Emp is up to?
TheRealJims (in that unnecessary insertion of The Golden Age, but also otherwise) is acting like he is telling "pure reality", but he is simply counting down pretty small-minded personal views and tastes. At least that is always coming through among more basic, structural points, which he also usually gives a too personal colouring (there is simply not such a consensus about seasons which are classical in their way that this or that would be not good, but rather it is not rarely seen as a highlight, and so on).
Honestly I think the Simpsons new episodes get a little over hated. I’ve watched the majority of episodes and one of my personal favorite is the season 29 episode Forgive and Regret, yet is a 6.9 on IMDb but I honestly like that episode over Homers Enemy
According to ToonrificTariq, the creation of the Simpsons happened this way: Someone from the Network: Hey Matt, your meeting will start any minute. Can't wait to see what different show you got from us, that isn't Life in Hell. Matt: oh yea- excuse me?!
Apparently the dude made the most important show of television on the fly!
"The Simpsons opened our eyes to the yellowness of the world, after a while we stopped questioning why they were yellow. They simply were. It was only then when just for a moment, the creators had nothing else to do but make them green. Homer's enemy is The Simpsons magnum opus, and there will never ever be another episode like it." *takes the one second where Homer gets up to adjust the TV and makes Bart green and zooms in on Bart, putting the laughter from the end over it* man oh my GOD that ending is perfect!
You did such a great analysis of the show. I grew up with the Simpsons and so did my parents. I never understood why they only stuck to the first 8 seasons. They always told me that whenever they see one of them pick up a phone they immediately change the channel. I now know why that is the case. I wasn’t interested in your analysis of just this episode. I’m more interested in your take on the entire series, it’s concepts, and probably a big question of mine; why do my parents don’t like the more recent episodes. I now know it’s because of the fact they grew up in this early era of the show and that it’s become watered down and unoriginal when this is now the cookie cutter mold for modern cartoon series.
Also green Simpsons reminds me of certain space creatures, let’s just hope the Kraken that is copyright doesn’t get to them.
I wouldn't say Homer's Enemy is where this show jumped the shark. I always say "The Principle and the Pauper", just a few episodes after Homer's Enemy, was the episode where The Simpsons jumped the shark.
7:12 "It's remarkable just how different The Simpsons was than anything else on television at the time", so are we just ignoring Married with Children, which premiered 2 years before The Simpsons?
the episode began with The news anchor Kent Brockman introducing Frank Grimes on the simpson's TV, at the episodes end when Grimes is being buried, Homer says "change the channel marge."
Reflecting on it, is it not true? Revolutionary War, Shay's Rebellion, Economic Panics of the early 19th century, the civil war, economic panics of the late 19th century, WW1, Great Depression, WW2, Red Scare, Watergate, Vietnam, 1980's depression, Columbine, Iraq War, Great Recession, and the Pandemic. All of these has happened, and yet America managed to live through them unscathed. I find it impressive when on paper the engine is expected to blow up halfway down the drag strip.
@D39 street I don't believe America made it unscathed from any of them. The Cold War basically scarred the American psyche so much that they became obsessed with fighting something. The dissolution of the Soviet Union basically meant they had no major enemies left so, instead of healing and repairing, they decided to go find or make a new enemy. To add insult to injury, some of these enemies were former allies - America used Afghanistan to give the Soviets their Vietnam... then Afghanistan turned into America's second Vietnam.
"We are going to do a terrible thing to you. We are going to take away your enemy." - Soviet expert Georgy Arbatov.
I think one really good example of how the simpsons kind of lives on in the era of the internet in it's most purist form is with phonk. While if you look up phonk today you'll get a bunch of cowbell-laced trap beats, one of the earliest rises in this music genre's popularity was with it's weed-smoking cousin. artists like soudiere, DJ smokey, and DJ yung vamp have all used simpsons screenshots as cover art. It represents the genre as a whole. Anti-culture.
The chill side of phonk is build to never ever be able to break into the mainstream. With copyright laws being as strict as they are, no one would be able to emulate the carefree nature of phonk and get hundreds of millions of streams without some angry lawyers knocking at their door demanding a ciese and decist.
Phonk is deliberately anti-culture. Fuck you, fuck the world, and fuck humanity. You listen to phonk thinking about all of the things that were, all of the things that will be, and you're squarely in the middle. Phonk is a complete subversion of what can and should be popular, and as such, it's no wonder it's genre-defining. It's like the simpsons, and the simpsons live on in it's footsteps.
Just wanted to say thank you for the video. I was in a pretty bad spot after being burnt out by work, pay inequality, inept colleagues and failed projects which I barely had control over. I was literally the worst parts of Grimes. And this video made me realize the more important things in life and to stop being stressed out and to relax a bit. Not sure if this will reach you, but thanks for making me feel much better now
I'm glad someone else feels that way. I also feel Frank Grimes resonates with me and that I do need to be more like Homer. I became SO resentful and even acquired an enemy in the last year.
Me too, I'm at this point in my life as well, resonating with Frank Grimes. Its even got so bad that I got muscled outta my Christmas morning so that Homer could be with his family and completely forget that I went outta way for him. Really glad this video reminded me that comparison is the thief of joy.
It's possible some episodes weren't bad, Everyone just adapted to it, but Simpsons doesn't adapt. it just runs under the same rules. some of the poor ratings might be uncalled for, because we look at it from the wrong view point.
It's still worse than before, but not all the episodes are bad.
I'm interested in why Grimes says Homer is the problem and not Burns, considering it was Burns who hired them, snubbed him, and allows the world to burn. Or even actively does it himself. Homer is small fry, a fly lucky enough to find good food and not be squished, Homer naturally appears where life allows. Off the success of exploitation, done by much more evil men.
@BizzaroHunter The comments literally exists to allow us to discuss the contents of the video, hence why most comments are like this. Calling it out is nothing to act smug about.
@Mr Maticus but he's not discussing it, he's regurgitating something from the video, or he had the same idea but didn't finish the video. Either way there's no discussion to be had
Flanders is the man who got what he deserved. Even though he did get hit with a few tragedies. He worked hard and never hurt anyone. Home is the man who got more than he deserved. He was lazy reckless and often selfish. Grimes in the man who never got what he deserved. He worked hard. But his biggest flaw was envy.
Ironically envying a man who lives paycheck to paycheck. Maybe grimy was not envious of Homer's success but of Homer's happiness.
@r p even then Homer wasn't the cause of the problem Grimes had. Homer was a symptom of the work place owned by Mr. Burns and in extension the reflection of economy going down the drain.
@EveryTimeV2 because Grimes is astounded at Homers actual incompetence, the amount of issues he causes, yet still everyone tolerates him. Whilst if Grimes acted the same, he'd get in trouble for it. Homer has a crazy amount of privilege and the man himself doesn't see it
Dont know why people hate on new simpsons so much, i actually like the new simpsons more than the old ones
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Mr. G-sez2021-09-30 05:15:09 (edited 2021-09-30 05:18:28 )
did you know in germany, sideshow bobs is called Tingle-Tangle Bob! its kinda funny, fits his hair! edit: 9:50 i just realised the bucket of books he's holding so is sideshow bob the sideshow bucket of books
@Jullien Ricot Flawless is not the same as perfect, in fact in most cases there is no significant overlap between them. I was an adult by the time I realized the first part of that sentence to be true, and I was close to thirty by the time I fully embraced the second part. But it is one of the most fundamental aspects of our world you will ever encounter.
@Queen Crab I believe the question was framed like a math test if you answer all the question correctly you still will prevail right. If you are talking about this being unfair then yes that happens all the time to everyone.
@Jullien Ricot Imagine a chess match with two players who always make the best possible move available to them. It's debated what the end result would be, but either there's a draw, meaning both are neither winners nor losers, or one of them wins, meaning the other loses. That's with an mostly level playing field with the exception of the slight advantage the person to move first has.
Now imagine a modified chess match both players still always make the best possible move available to them, BUT player A has only a king and two queens, whereas player B has only a king and two pawns. Player B is doomed, no matter how flawless B's decisions in the game of this unfairly modified chess are.
A 100% guaranteed win from playing flawlessly is only possible in a fair game with no unpredictable elements. Life is an unfair game with unpredictable elements.
@Jullien Ricotnot so much just sit there. But "taking it" it to varying extents is often unavoidable. Many ppl are subject to Grimes' predicament. Sometimes you just cant win. All you can do is continue to live by your principles.
@Jullien Ricot You're way off. Hard work is not and never has been demonized. People are becoming aware that hard work is not the solution to life's problems. Intelligence is prized now more than ever in most circles, now that the world has seen what a lack of intelligence can mean for a country like the USA: Half a million people dead. What your kind refer to as "virtue signalling" has never and will never be about narcissism and self gratification. Knowing that nothing is being done to curtail poverty, the climate crisis and economic inequity and reminding people like yourself of that fact is anything but satisfying. It is profoundly depressing.
Sounds like capitalism, to me. You could work extremely hard for your entire life and still never see a billion dollars, or financial stability, and yet, through no fault of your own, the system still finds a way to fuck you
@M Phylo Based comrade! We need to dismantle the corrupt and cruel system of capitalism and replace it with a system in which, while yes, you can still be rich, the working class will no longer go hungry, go homeless, etc. We need Socialism
@Yuli Kitten You're referring to social programs not socialism. Socialism is what tens of millions of refugees try to run from generation after generation.
@Zizz Creator You are arguing Politics and Ethics. I spoke only of Military Science. When we committed the Errors/Crimes against Humanity, those were self-inflicted wounds. Vietnam and Afghanistan brought down 2 mighty giants...
@Hillarys Emails Ok, nevertheless mistakes were made across various areas & disciplines, but in any case military victory entailed subduing the enemy and they seem to have failed to accomplish that? massively disproportionate body counts notwithstanding? due to a miscalculation of the size of the enemy, what it would take to demoralize them, the practical value of seizing positions, and so on? Vietnam was chaos and only by a very specific and insulated context of WW2 era conflicts was it anything but an abject mistake-ridden catastrophe, but at least it sent a message that US would be "better dead than red", an ultimate victory of sorts?
@Zizz Creator Actually, after the Tet Offensive, the NVA and VC were essentially wiped out. It was on the Political and Public Opinion fronts that the USA lost the war. Walter Cronkite claimed the war "unwinnable" after the USA had already won it. And so they pulled out. Pathetic. And why the USA is on its knees today. Sabotaged from within.
@Hillarys Emails WOW! Truly? I find that literally unbelievably horrible.
I would like to be hopeful that US is bending our knee to a just "GOD". Knowing it's foolish to break a social contract with people whose mission is harmony, least of all for the precise opposite? I hope I'm being clear that I don't think US is in any danger unique to them/us.
Every logical conclusion you can speak or write is a construct of human imagination through the language symbols we created ourselves for the purpose of communication. There's no reason or proof that any logical conclusion should or could be an omni-functional tool that will work in every and all situations and problems. edit: The basis of communication relies on faith.
@dddmemaybe That is so perfectly stated, that it should be above the entrance to every church building. I've struggled for 2 decades to say it as perfectly as you have.
@Yuli Kitten "We need to dismantle the corrupt and cruel system of..."
...living. Life is cruel and life is unfair and to pretend otherwise is foolish. When the lioness kills a baby antelope it doesn't consider whether it's cruel or fair. Even herbivores will prioritize their own survival over those of their herd when it comes to finite resources. Your utopian idealism flies in the face of reality and relies on imagined altruism and selflessness of an elite ruling class that will never exist.
As a massive fan of the Simpsons, this is the greatest critique and analysis of the show I have ever watched. This absolutely blew me away. The research and attention to detail is beyond fantastic. This made me proud to be a Simpsons fan. Well done Emperorlemon.
Im 3 minutes and 35 seconds in, music has started, and i see google maps. And I’ve figured it out. This is made in the same style as jon bois and the narration reminds me of secret base and even if it doesn’t take inspiration from either this is beautiful story telling.
And then they later on tried to reference him and bring him back as just another zany villain like Sideshow Bob or Kang and Kodos, completely undermining his original purpose
Here I am watching a video that is twice the length of a Simpsons episode written by someone who is younger than the Simpsons. What on earth is going on?
The American Dream is and always has been an illusion, before even the America existed. America is the representation of the saying "It's too good to be true". Homer Simpson reminds me of Luffy from One Piece. I am techically also from Oregon.
I cannot explain how much I relate to the importance of finding one's own bliss in the chaos of today's America. Wanting so greatly to rise out of debt, to no longer be frustrated and insecure about my fellow citizens, to overcome the nihilism and pessimism the country has birthed for me. I will never be happy if I choose to play by the rules of this nature I've been surviving in. We must make our own rules, and rule our own perceptions. We don't have to continue the toxic culture we have been perpetuating. We can simply be, and spread as much joy as possible.
Well, millenials and Gen X also have a lot in common, and the same can be said of zoomers and millenials.
A theme in Emp's videos and specifically the Never Ever series is this feeling on how culture affects generations, and how they express their worries and frustrations in different ways. The Simpsons, in a way, is for Gen X what Spongebob is to millenials.
And as a zoomer, who knows what the future holds for us? The clock is ticking, childhood is over. Soon, millenials will be old, and we shall take their place.
@Raymunator i would argue that unlike previous generations the fact we have the internet means there is no longer 'one show' that everyone watches as the internet gives s the freedom to watch whatever niche interest we have rather than all watching one show like SpongeBob or the Simpsons as that's the only thing airing. maybe just the interent will define us as the first generation to have never lived in a time before it.
Quite the opposite, really. Every generation going forward is going to be like Gen X; Bitter and resentful of what came before and the pressures put on them, but utterly powerless to do anything of value about it. The shining future we were promised as kids had been long squandered by the time we could enjoy it by people who won't be around long enough to experience the fallout.
Of course there can't be another episode, they already made it.
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Daniel Tolbert2021-03-10 10:29:12 (edited 2021-03-10 10:30:02 )
Fun fact: the two nuclear towers in The Simpsons where Homer works are partially inspired by the Satsop Nuclear Plant in Satsop, WA very close to Evergreen State College. The towers were built, but the stations and reactors were never moved in. They’re still there to this day and there’s an Overstock call center right next to them.
The plant was never completed because a proposed budget increase failed, and now they can't demolish it because that would cause issues with nearby facilities and the national park surrounding it. In an odd twist, the site has actually seen success as a film set, being used for several films in the last few decades.
whenever my family would go to ocean shores, when we passed the towers we would sing "THE SIMPSONNNSSSS" pretty crazy that the creator went to Evergreen.
5:34 By the time they reached adulthood they were met with the worst economy(massive inflation), unthinkable environmental crises (pandemic), and the continued existential dread of nuclear annihilation (ukraine war). Dang, really sums of the last couple years don't it? Crazy time for me to have just graduated college and go out into the "real world". (2022)
Okay, so I accidently tapped on this video while watching a video on early cgi being terrifying, while I was thinking about this video. Wtf are the odds
Hey! Just so you know, it'd be more accurate if you'd pronounce the expression "laissez-faire" as "lay-say fair" even though we don't accentuate as much as you do in English.. That's what gives us that shitty accent when we speak in English! 😅 Cheers from France ✌️
Emp pulled the classic "Why do i do the thing?" "Well... Why do you do your thing?" When it came to green Simpsons. It has come full circle and has nowhere else to go. It was good while it lasted, now all that is left is the abyss. Keep up the good work and have a nice day.
the simpsons was anti-establishment, then became the establishment, then got bought by disney, who used to be anti-establishment, and became the establishment
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Bob Veinne2021-02-27 01:14:49 (edited 2021-02-27 01:58:46 )
The first minute is how every conspiracy theorist sounds.
Also, this was a well put together documentary, thank you Emp.
Johnny Xanax2021-12-27 11:07:52 (edited 2022-04-20 14:33:10 )
I grew up playing NES, GameBoy, BlockBuster, Walk-Mans, Nerf-Guns. Yes, I went outside to play with friends and do what tweens did. It was great, great, times. I was always happy to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, for I loved to be an American in its prime. Then after, 9/11, I was entering my senior year in high school. I was accepted into college already so yeah I slacked off quite a bit. But when I saw our enemies launched attack on American soil, I could not let that slide. America gave my parents, and I, so much. I joined the Army a year after graduation to really think about my choices. My parents wanted me to go to college, but also respected my choice to hunt and kill the enemy. Thank God I made it in one piece, although I did not see much combat, but a dear friend did not, and another one lost a limb, and was injured pretty bad. Came back, to a different America. 20 years later, I ask myself, why the fuck were we there. With all the PC and gender equality, the BLM movement. It is not the America I grew up in. It hurts me to my very core because it is truly a very special place. You may have to work harder, and life will not be fair, but good things don't last for ever, and The Simpsons is a prime example. I tried watching some of the latest episodes, it was dull and boring, the worse part was that I had to pay to watch such episodes. Exactly, what the Disney corporation wants, to squeeze every drop they can from the soul of the Simpsons. Capitalism.
Edit: I have to say "Homer's enemy" is in my top 10 episodes. I watched it again not too long ago. Now I understand what the writers were trying to convey to the viewers. Although it is a cartoon, it does not mean it was mean for kids to watch. At least before the latter. My first time watching, Bart acquiring a factory for ONE dollar, I thought, hmmmm would it really be possible. Now, my thought is, yes, Bart now owns a dilapidated building. He now has the monetary obligation of fixing it up to safety standards. Which will cost in the high six figures. He bought a nightmare. He may have had a new playground to exploit, but at the end. It collapses. Was that a subliminal message?
@Marcin Markovych is that the literature teacher sometimes over looks and values somethings that wasn`t that important in a story, like: In Romeo and Juliet in some moment a blue door appears, and then they overlooks the door in some philosophical way when the door was blue because Shakespere likes blue.
@Sleepypixel I was referencing a Tumblr comic where a guy builds an anime travel machine to revive Shakespeare to ask their teacher what he truly ment by "the door is red" when the teacher described it as describing Shakespeare's anger.
It's an interpretation of the comment posted here on how Groening gave a simple response to a question that Emplemon broke down into a meaning. Doesn't mean that Emp is wrong for coming to this conclusion.
Tl;Dr: Describing a simple question into a long answer can be really funny if the question didn't really require it.
So... what you're saying is... "Homer's Enemy" is really the end of the series creatively and everything that came after that was all just corporate momentum which they allowed to degrade into the very thing they meant to ridicule in the beginning? Hmmp... That took me all of 10 seconds to say. But then I guess that's a writer for you: Taking 41 minutes to say what one could say is 10 seconds. LOL JK It really was a fascinating presentation.
“People have always wondered what would happen to Frank Grimes if he survived past this episode.” Nickelodeon made a whole show about it 2 years later.
something frank never tried to do is look up homer's past..man has he suffered and done it all..he earned his place at the plant by becoming burns' bootlicker quitting a fun job to support a 3rd kid after quitting and giving up another job that made him happy and praised to one that paid more by lying about the plant being safe where hes hated and which he hates...he tries to raise a good family despite his own family being a mess
@Asmosis Jones True, he choose to put a crayon in his nose because he couldn't be happy as a man of normal intelligence. He would have ended up as Grimes did.
Homer's Enemy. we would question how unfair it is to live and how come some people can live it up normally. but there's people are just bad guys or people that didn't even need up get all the good stuff. there's really no such thing of 100% fairness. fairness like in games are only limits what you only can do if following the rules. rules are there for a reason but there's some rules that didn't need to be made at all. like you can be yourself inside your own home. but you can't outside of your own home. if you tell a teacher they are actually wrong about what they are teaching you. you the one's wrong no matter what you say and kicked out for a day. is ok to attack but it's not ok to defend yourself. now we getting to the point that you can't do anything at all besides working to the bone for almost nothing. movie "the joker" also points out how unfair are life really is and some of us realize living like sheep (normal people) and wolves (those who break the law for fun) can get away with almost anything while killing sheep is not life.
besides all of that. Frank would've live better if he follow some of homer's advice on how to get payed better at work. because if he wasn't so busy thinking working hard while not getting payed much is a way to go. things would've gone better if he found better ways to get payed in a job like everyone at the power plant. but than again the power plant is not being taking care of. so I see his point of view at that point.
You know who else had a dictomy where one was mature and miserable, another idiotic and happy, despite both of them being in technically simillar places? Squidward and Spongebob.
soooo... you're tellin me, in the 80s and 90s you could just go get a regular job, and live a regular life instead of having 15 years expirence and a Ph.D to quality for an entry level job position?
Art throughout history has sometimes been known as Futurism and Art was often look on as "we should reflect on our actions if this is what's being conjured by our societies delineators". It's fair to say that the distribution of variables within a society, the events surrounding it and its collective conscious can conjure up what could be deemed as psychic or foresight, for after all 2+2=4 i.e international political strife and recourse gambits= a war in the coming future. A good example of this is starship troopers
All in all the future is as predictable as the many moves that the present variables and occurrence can make
Gen Z here and the appreciation for the golden age is still alive and well. Was born in 2002 but essentially grew up watching the earlier seasons and definitely set the standards for subversive comedy in my mind.
Post Post Modernism is coming, Bo Burnham, Homer's Enemy, and Rick and Morty are the Prologue. In a world where despair is normalised the best way to make people laugh is with hope.
'In Season 8, they pushed further than ever..." * Mario 64's Bower Level music starts playing* This is when you knew shit was getting real You know, that was an excellent choice of background music👍. I recognized it and it was driving me crazy trying to figure out where I knew it from. I even scrolled through several hundred comments. Then tried Ctrl + F for "music". Finally said "fuck it", started watching the video again when it came to me. And then I thought to look in the video info and saw you had a list of music 🤦♂ It's called "Bower Road" if anyone wonders. I think the video clips taken and editing throughout was very professional. In fact, just like your HungryBox video, the entire thing is just very well done in it's production
I think the message of this episode is even if someone is ahead of you when they don't deserve to be, giving in to bitterness and hatred will only make yourself suffer.
Unless it motivates you to the stuff from the people you're envious of - which is probably how envy evolved in the natural world - then envy is good for you. Envy that you never act on, for whatever reason, would obviously be nothing but a source of frustration. Of course, good people don't act on such impulses. Hence why envy usually only works for bad people.
@Odin Sørensen envy is a deadly sin. It can only lead to suffering, it doesn’t motivate you it just ruins yourself because you focus so much on another person that you forget to look at yourself and the world around you
@BallisticaMetal What, so if you act on it, then it's no longer envy? If I take something of yours that I'm envious of you for, then surely that counts both as me being motivated to do that and being envious.
@Captainpep "It can only lead to suffering" - obviously we can both imagine some exceptions, some scenario where someone feeling envy leads them to do something that causes a chainreaction that eventually does something, anything, that we might characterize as "good". So spare me the dogma and absolutism. If I point to someone who was envious and it motivated them to do something, will you then claim that it wasn't "true envy", like some sort of True Scottsman?
@Odin Sørensen envy and motivation are not the same thing. I agree with the dude who responded to you about this, and he’s right. You notice someone has something cool and you feel motivated because you figure “if he can do it, why can’t I?” Of course there can be envy mixed with motivation, but those are two separate things that aren’t working together, you are being motivated while also having bad thoughts about the other person because of their higher status. That’s not a good thing
@Captainpep I didn't say they were the same. I said envy can be motivating. Don't put words in my mouth. "those are two separate things that aren’t working together" - Prove it. "having bad thoughts about the other person" - is that you idea of envy? Because mine is "to wish that you had something that another person has: " - Envy, Cambridge English Dictionary. It shouldn't be difficult to see how this wish translates into motivation. This is my argument, now damn well address it instead of making more baseless assertions and engaging in fucking tiresome semantics.
@Odin Sørensen that’s jealousy you’re thinking of. Envy is a more dangerous version of jealousy that only brings harm to yourself. But envy can in a way lead to motivation, but once it turns to motivation envy must be gone. Envy only means that you have negative feelings towards somebody due to them having something you do not, and being motivated (as said before) is to try and get to what they have because you believe you can do it. Instead of being envious one should just be motivated
@Captainpep No, Jealousy is when you're "extremely careful in protecting someone or something (that is yours)". - Cambridge, again. It's related to the word "zealous", and unlike envy it's considered rightful, hence why the bible reads "God Is a Jealous God" without meaning to portray said god negatively. God wants his followers to follow only him. There's some overlap with "envy" in modern dictionary definitions due to linguistic errosion and the "people" who engage in it. Even the Simpsons got this one right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA
"once it turns to motivation envy must be gone" - that's your opinion, not a fact of reality.
"Envy only means that you have negative feelings towards somebody" - You're just making your own definitions, and without addressing my argument on the matter at all, despite me explicitly asking you to.
@lizard legend sorry I didn’t completely read his reply, but I get where he’s coming from. In the English language jealousy can mean many different things and he’s completely right in what he’s saying about jealousy, but jealousy can also be a less severe version of envy. Like someone can be jealous of someone’s car, someone can be envious of someone else’s lifestyle. Stuff like that
@Odin Sørensen envy means you’re discontented or resentful or longing aroused by someone else’s possessions, qualities, or luck. That’s the definition of envy. Jealous is feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages. The difference between the two is that jealousy can be defined as very watchful or careful in guarding or keeping, and where envy is as previously stated in its textbook definition. It is true that envy is a motivator, but that doesn’t mean the feeling of being envious is a good thing. Homer Simpson is a mix between the two, he is jealous in that he is very watchful of neds advantages and is envious as he complains a lot about neds advantages
It's interesting seeing the old Simpsons message board and even usenet discussions and their influence live on and shape the show's discussion even to this day. The fringe nerds have won!
Nice to see you on here @TheRealJims. Great episode from both of you!
This takes me back! My household as a child had cheap analog television sets, and sometimes The Simpsons would be green because someone either lifted the TV or messed with the knobs.
I don't appreciate the defeatist 'things can't be perfect so it's wrong to improve them' sort of moral that comes through around three fifths of the way through the video, but it's interesting on the whole. ('Nothing is inevitable' is a moral I prefer.)
It was a very dark comedy, where the characters never win and things only seem to get worse for them, with few exceptions. Kind of gives an Apathy of darkness vibe, which is very depressing to watch. My only main complaint is that the overall message from the show, which was said in the end, is that nobody will stick up for the little guy working 50+ hours/week, while a bunch of the episodes has the family catch a break in a the form of some golden ticket and for them they to f4ck it up and lose everything. They want to paint it as the man putting the foot down on their necks, whereas truth be told, most of their hardships are brought on by themselves.
@Picky Physics Student they imitated the quirky situational comedy of the simpsons, but forgot all the warmth and genuine happiness that was the basis.
I was very hesitant as a child to like that show but after a few episodes I fell in love. Ugh I miss those "real" shows. Disney had it going for a while too with Lizzie McGuire but the success of Hannah Montana proved that unrealistic fantasies of wealth and fame were more appealing
5:39 TINY note. AIDS was and is a health and sociopolitical crisis, not environmental so it's weird that you used the time magazine cover in that moment.
I can think of a few other Never Evers. And no, this isn't a please/suggestion comment. These are some of the things I enjoy. There will Never Ever be another game like Retro Mario There will Never Ever be another singer like Michael Jackson There will Never Ever be another voracious storyteller like Eskoz There will Never Ever be another developer like Masahiro Sakurai There will Never Ever be another savior like Jesus Christ
@cxphy I know, right??! That’s kind what went through my head at that moment! (Other than, you know, hot dog). I was eating supper when I read the comment, never laughed so hard solid matter passed through my nasal cavity before, of course I had to share. (Definitely not my finest moment, for sure!)
@Raul Rojas ha! That’s the second time that’s happened to me this weekend; I’m a Cree Native Canadian dude, comprehendo Español no bueno; that’s more than I can easily translate on my own or can easily feed into Google translate. My email is “rollingwithmylocomotion”! 😂
i've had a script about how perfect this episode is sitting in my notes for months. you beat me to the punch!! but i'm so glad more people have such a strong appreciation for it though- it's always been really controversial but i think it's one of the best pieces of writing i've ever seen.
@emplemon 19:19 You claim Laissez faire (the concept of eliminating external, authoritative control to allow for free agency) "created Homer and it also created Mr. Burns." How could a concept -- that by definition lacks coercive or creative properties -- 'create' anything, let alone be responsible for an individuals identity? This is where I stopped the video.
I feel like you fully missed Frank’s flaw: it wasn’t an obsession with fairness, but an obsession with materialism. I think that accepting inequality and giving up on fairness is a one way ticket to a society in slow decline.
big agree. i feel like a lot of emps takes boil down to “nothing is ever going to get better and any real change is impossible” which is strange to me honestly
Agree here. The video is well produced, but I think too much of it is in support of just giving up on social change to improve the lives of those forgotten by america as a social system. Accepting life as unfair is good and all, when you aren't actively being persecuted and jailed by the government based on skin color, heritage and where you live.
@TimBagels that's not what the video was remotely about. If you want something to hyper focus on skin color that's not the Simpsons being yellow or green look elsewhere. And this is the black guy saying that
feels like Emp follows that "nothing gets better, real change might not be possible, life goes on the way it does so just accept it and move forward." mindset
Working towards more fairness is good, but unfairness will always exist in some form, so you need to learn to tolerate it. IE: Working to narrow the wealth gap is good, but expecting every human on earth to be paid an amount equal to the amount they work is incredibly unrealistic.
@gote it's not strange. The details may have changed a bit, but the humans of today are just as cruel and petty and dumb as the humans from thousands of years ago. Most addictions can be explained by taking into account that we're still relying on our ancestral instincts as hunter-gatherers. The deepest parts of our brains, the ones that developed over millions of years, or if you believe in Jungian memes, the collective subconscious, are still catching up to society. Our immediate behavior may change quickly, but our true nature doesn't.
Unless, of course, you go full eugenics, then maybe you can change one's fundamental instincts too. They tried domesticating foxes in Russia, it only took a couple of generations before they became tame. However, they weren't as tame as dogs, they still retained some more wild traits.
"But muh free choice and rationality" stop believing in memes, rationality only works for very small groups. You can build a rational commune, but you can't create a rational nation. The masses are inherently irrational, they're driven by those base instincts that we still haven't abandoned.
I see it more as saying that you shouldn't be obsessed with absolutes, the world will never be completely fair, that's just crazy to pursue, it will drive you crazy because of the impossibility of it
@Kurt There is no actual Labour Movement in any part of the US, no matter how often your Propaganda Channel Fox News keep perating that the Reds are destroying the US. The US is at this point being drained of all of its resources including the Working Class. Revolution is coming but simply when is the question....
@Z-Form you live in the south but your section isn’t representative of the entire south And from what I can tell you got the bad section, doesn’t mean an entire state is
@Mareo Mattengo Given how California is a shithole, while Alabama isn't. And if the south is so bad, and California so good, why is everyone leaving Cali for here?
@Kurt " Preserve my way of life," where have I heard that before? And have you ever lived in California? Some towns have more in common with the great economic powerhouse states of Oklahoma and Arkansas than they do with Los Angeles and San Francisco. And those " ideas" that you fear so much have already made it to red states. The divide is not exactly red vs blue but rather urban vs rural. Try to go out some more and don't fret too much about politics. It's not good for you mental health.
@John Queen Not necessarily, covington isn't nearly as bad as let's say portland. Urban areas do tend to be leftist for a variety of reasons but they do vary in terms of how much leftist they are. Regardless, I 100% agree with the other guy these people and their beliefs are vermin to our society and I don't want them to ruin my area like they have ruined my entertainment.
This is one of my favorite episodes. I've never really seen it as mean-spirited like some do. Homer was never outright malicious and Frank's death was really his own doing. This episode shows an unfortunate reality that some just have it easier than others despite not working all that hard.
I can remember when the Simpsons was just a short cartoon on the Tracey Ullman show. I bet she regrets it now tho, as I'm not sure many people will have any idea who Tracey Ullman even is lol. But EVERYBODY can tell you who 5he Simpsons are.
Wrote that ^^^ before it shows us Tracey Ullman. Doh!
2:43 the i95 runs from FL all the way up the east coast, so you already can tell it's more than just one place in the states.
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Springfield is most likely located in organ based on their tax structure. Not to mention many roads in Matt groaning home town have the same name as Simpsons characters, like quimby street. The name proves nothing but it’s fair to assume that Springfield was somewhat inspired by Springfield organ.
waiting for one of these episodes -there will Never Ever be another youtuber like kitty0706 -there will Never Ever be another band like Nirvana -there will Never Ever be another album like Kid A -there will Never Ever be another musician like Jimi Hendrix -there will Never Ever be another genre/movement like Punk -there will Never Ever be another game like Team Fortress 2
Frank Grimes dying and the bad guys destroying the world in Final Fantasy 6: moments in excessive 90s pop culture that smartly “went there”. Today though, The Simpsons reminds me of the power of knowing when to end it and how the ending punctuation shapes perception of the whole.
I feel like you could write a never ever on several dozen of Simpsons episodes, they were one of the sharpest and smartest episodes to exist (during a period of time)
"I mean, To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep" -not sure
Besides the americsn version of shsmeless Macy isnt really know for being working class. Unless you were upper-middle or upper-class , then the roles might be appear to be working class to you. Working class is a nicer way of saying poor person.
The Simpsons achieve the american dream as Homer geting paid for nothing, they are geting money for a not that good seasons, and as it was said here, THEY ARE HEROS for being able to be release bad episodes and still get a ton of money, life isn't fair but as FOX we have to take advantage of the stablishmemnt, some of us like the simpsons now should stop being hard working like Frank Grimes and become more like Homer.
i have always said that the only good episodes are the ones that are in 4:3 aspect ratio, never knew that it was an actual thing though just thought it was my single opinion that was like that lol
This episode when Simpsons became terrible and unwatchable for me. Totally lost its heart when they kill Grimes. The season after this was so terrible and I've never enjoyed Simpsons since
Oh man, that Fall Preview TV Guide was like a second Christmas every year. They still make TV guides? Does the TV guide channel even still exist? I was such a fucking nerd. Still am.
Yep, bowed down to the npcs and the Twitter mobs. Of course the status quo has changed shape (its no longer pearl clutching older conservatives, hasn't been for at least a decade, it's now stuffy rich corporate identity politicking woke weirdos) . Its strange how some people can see the bullshit and others are blind to what's going on.
@midnightshade32 It has nothing to do with "npcs" (which aren't a thing outside of video games) or "the Twitter mobs". Work out your shit. The Simpsons isn't a part of it.
@nyanuwu I did make a point, maybe you were too busy using Twitter to see it. My point was that obviously if some person has a Twitter pfp they are gonna defende it like a fanboy.
Bart saying "Quality shmaulity, if I had a TV show I'd run that sucker into the ground" is one of the most elaborate jokes ever.
It's up there with Luigi's beta model from Super Mario 64 being released 24 years and 1 month after the game's original release date, finally confirming L is real 2401.
@Kazuma K. You know...vivisection. In a scientific sense, that means cutting an animal or person for research. But in this sense...it's an extremely in-depth criticism or analysis.
@Jonas Seorum I understand where they're coming from. It's true that like-farming comments are rampant these days. The wording is, how shall I put it, a bit strong, though.
@kingd8 Here's the thing that bothers me to; that checkmark comments always come in leaving allmost all the time these empty unrelated comments to the video that aren't even funny or remotely usefull. Then they get upvotes from sheep fans just because they watch them and leave these awfull stupid reply's like: HuH? WhaT ArE YoU DoIng HeRE? As if it is not normal that other people watch video's to. And they don't even reply to anything said under they'r comment making it double useless as it shows they simply don't care. Watch this: Hey whang! I think your channel is as creative as a dying artist who thinks he still got it but is completely out of touch.
Watch them 90% not even read any of our reply's.
Quite honnestly i think youtube would be better if the comment section didn't have a like or dislike option.
@Mr. Fancypants Why the e-peen hostility over a lame comment at all? Did alot stuff get deleted? It seems just like a throwaway thought from a fan of Whang and Da Emps.. not sure of what he did really for you to shame him about like-baiting;which if this is considered baiting, then fucking shit do you have to hate people that address the creators at all rather than just contextually arguing about videos content. Really don't see what's going on here, but regardless, Reddit is more your thing methinks if you're so righteous over the Updoots.
7:32 it laided the ground work for the media of today which in a ironic way killed it satire cant. Exist if its run out of things to mock it was so successful that it hunted its prey to exstinction and others copied it
I watched Homer's Enemy when I was a kid and I'm Gen X. I actually empathized with that character because they were one of the only logical characters in the series and what they said made complete sense to what was going on. It looked horribly unfair and unlucky and the episode optimized both points to the absolute maximum then killed the character off at the end rather than making them join the springfield insanity after his outburst.
Whatever philosophical point you think the episode was trying to make is vastly overthinking it. The quotes you linked definitely confirm what I was thinking then. They essentially brought someone "from the real world" into Springfield, they were disgusted and driven insane by what they see and die in a crazed filled outburst. After that the community figuratively urinates on the corpse.
The allusion to Ned Flanders was interesting but Homer has done so much damage to Ned Flanders over the episodes that it never felt like a situation that had you empathizing with Homer. In fact, many times had you empathizing with Flanders, who didn't really do anything wrong but kept having bad things happen to him. The portrayal of the Flanders vs the Simpsons was not even somewhat as one-sided as this episode.
This episode was memorable because it genuinely felt like the makers no longer liked the Simpsons and wanted to bury it in the most overt way possible. And its why its the last episode of the cartoon I had really cared about watching.
@Below The Dot There's E! True Hollywood Story's episode of Married With Children, which goes into its development, vision of showing a realistic American family, its rise in popularity due to its counterculture elements, and various controversies that arose from its content.
@Below The Dot Even then, the Bundys may be the pioneers, the Bunkers were there before.
All in the Family is what the American family was like worts and all, and no character fills that role more than Archie
The lovable bigot, he was an assertively prejudiced blue-collar worker, World War II veteran, who longs for the old days where his opinions were the norm, though unlike bigots who are motivated by hateful racism or prejudice. His ignorance and stubbornness seem to cause his malapropism-filled arguments to self-destruct
His kind-hearted wife Edith enders his old viewpoint with a smile on her face, even though she defers from her husband's opinions on the rare occasions when Edith takes a stand, she proves to have a simple but profound wisdom. Despite their different personalities, they love each other deeply.
Their daughter Gloria is a mix of both of them, taking the kind-hearted parts from Edith, but the stubborn from her father, she manifests as childishness, later as a more mature feminism
and then there is the son in law Michael, a character that is everything Archie hates, a good-hearted and well-meaning hippy who is just as stubborn as his father in law
@Hercules Rockefeller, Esq. im w you there bro, i knew the show had changed drastically from what it was in the 90s but i didnt know why or how.. good to know im not the only one 👍
33:57 THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT DISNEY; I BORN IN 1970, SAW STAR WARS ORIGINALLY, RIGHT THEN I VOWED I WOULD SEE EPISODE 9, EVEN THO THERE WEREN'T ANY PLANS FOR IT. I ONLY KNEW THAT "STAR WARS, A NEW HOPE." WAS EPISODE 4 OUT 9. I HAVE AVOIDED SUICIDE, AND PRISON FOR DECADES, JUST TO SEE EPISODE. I AM BETTER NOW, BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE EPISODE 9 NOW THAT DISNEY OWNS IT
@Paul Webb All philosophy goes out the window when you're reduced to a beast struggling everyday for survival alone.
Or I should say, your mind can still change most situations, even if it's only to find glory in dying trying to change said situation as so many people did against oppression. To be reduced to a beast without hope is tragedy, but to maintain one's mind through adversity is triumph.
@Paul Webb dude you need to learn about epictetus, the grand master of stoicism. his early life was total shit, born into slavery and suffering. he only stayed sane and freed himself by freeing his mind. moreso than even in those "good" circumstances does good thoughts and the philosophy of freedom and keeping the only things you can control matter. Many stoics would argue that we are more enslaved than ever when we arent challenged and have all we want.
@Paul Webb Great. Who the hell is starving man? Not that many people. thanks to capitalism more people as a percentage have been lifted out of poverty in the last 30 years than all of history.
@Kat Licks Have you read any of the stoic texts? They wrote them with exactly these situations in mind. For them, philosophy is a guide to life, and seeing as life (especially in their era) was full of suffering, slavery, murder, despots, prison, exile, etc., these scenarios form a large part of their focus.
Funny enough, Marcus Aurelius was an archetypal Righteous Heathen. This quote foreshadows the Orthodox saint Elder Thaddeus' book "Our Thoughts determine Our Lives".
@Skin Man "Righteous Heathen" is a specific category of a pagan who prototyped the fullness of the Gospel. Similar men in this category would be Plato, Buddha, Confucius and Laotsi. Marcus was a Stoic. Stoicism shared some similarities with Christianity compared to the primitive chaos of uncivilized tribes. Seeds of the truth, essentially.
@seronymus Interesting. After reading a lot of different texts, it certainly seems like there's a "universal philosophy" which all of them share. Comparing the ideas behind Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Stoicism, and Christianity produce a huge number of striking similarities. The same central concepts seem to transcend cultures and time periods.
I suppose that from my point of view, Christianity seems to be nothing insanely unique - more like it's just another take on a Universal truth, filtered through its own cultural and historical context, just like these other philosophies and spiritualities.
Maybe it was the writers way of saying don't take this too seriously, it's a comedy, these aren't role models ( The Simpsons family) It's Entertainment.
I’m 36 and it’s been my favorite episode since I first saw it in 1998. I’ve never viewed it as Homer being a bad person, just a very different person than Grimes.
@Mr. Ryan I'm 31 and I remember watching it for the first time and thinking 'why don't I like this episode?'. Something about it, which I couldn't understand at the time, just didn't sit right with me
Because nihilism. And because "sit back and enjoy life" is not a solution to the problems that the nihilism will eventually create. The sand is sprinting through the hourglass.
With another masterpiece being concluded, I wonder if Emplemon will become stale like everything else over the years, like he said in the video. Can't imagine Emp withering away... but like you said, eventually, everyone runs out of ideas, right? Only time will tell.
Emp started producing this sort of content after he got tired of the YTP community. I'm pretty sure he will try to innovate again, or at least know when to quit.
grimes hates homer because hes an oaf.. thats the entire point of the character homer.. hes the american everyman whos an idiot. thats literally why hes the main character in the show and why he prospers because the show needs him to.. grimes could be considered the people who made homer the character of te show and their disdain for him in the first place. i really never considered this episode that special but i guess if youre analyzing it from some writers perspective then i guess it has a lot of elements worth noting.. but to me it lways just seemed like duh obvious he doesnt like homer because hes dumb.. i liked this video, it made me want to go back and watch every episode seriously.. i remember when my mom didnt want me to watch this show because it was bad.. probably because i was like 6 years old..
Wow. I'm only 25 minutes in but this is quite possibly the greatest single piece of content I've ever watched. I feel conflicted about whether I should laugh uncontrollably or cry my eyes out. No, I'm serious; I feel like I could do both at the same time - surely an accomplishment that doesn't happen every day. The way you articulate words and ideas is truly eloquent and flawless in every sense of the word. Videos like this are what inspire me to be a better artist, a better writer, a better creator, but most importantly, a better person. You've effortlessly described both the pinnacle and pitfall of the American Dream, the challenges and struggles we all face in this life, and the juxtaposition of the modern man vs. the classical man in a way that I think very few people could ever do. I award you all the points, and may God still have mercy on your soul (because it's still important lol). 😂 Godspeed, my friend!
“Only by relinquishing our control over others can we ensure our own agency to do as we please.” I’d say that they should have sent a poet, but it’s fairly clear they already did.
Around the 38 minute mark I noticed the background music was the instrumental of the opening theme to the show “Aqua teen hunger force” the season it was going as “aqua tv show show”. Is this an homage to another groundbreaking show that was subversive and maybe stayed past its peak?
“Money does not represent such a value as men have placed upon it. All my money has been invested into experiments with which I have made new discoveries enabling mankind to have a little easier life.” -- Nikola Tesla
wow. at first i thought the uploader was a fcking dork for making a 50 minutes about the simpsons but i gotta say, he sounds more like a disappointed fan. which i can relate to. that quote about counterculture towards the end was... damn
Can someone tell me the name of the song in the Beginning of "YOU'RE what's wrong with America" section? I've heard it before, really nostalgic but I don't know the name
It gets even better. When they were naming Grandpa Simpson, Matt refused to even be in the room, because his mom and dad gave him so much crap for naming Homer and Marge after them. The writers named Grandpa Simpson "Abraham," which just happened to be Matt's grandpa's name.
Also, Matt's father's name was Homer Philip Groening, so Fry is also his father's namesake. And regarding Springfield, it is most certainly based off of Springfield, Oregon, a town just South of where Matt Groening grew up.
My collection stops at 9. Fk what Simpsons became. Grimes isnt a "classic" hero. Grimes has nothing because he strives for nothing. You don't get rewarded for life, you get rewarded when you reward yourself. To work hard and expect everyone else to care about your achievements is appalling. No one cares about you or what you do. Homer has the life because he lives.
@Zaid Nava as someone who doesn’t live there but visits often, LA is very mixed in my opinion, but that’s because when I think LA, I think of all the other cities in that general area too, like Burbank, Long Beach, Hollywood, etc. some of them suck, some of them are awesome, so overall the area’s like a 6 or 7/10 for me.
I think I’m home! What a delightfully eclectic group! Let’s see, what’s the quote again? Ahh, yes;
“Sometimes in life, we are given a choice between being a slave in Heaven or a star in Hell. And Hell does not always look like Hell. On a good day, it can look a lot like LA.” - Eugene Sands, “Playing God”
@Marcos Cárdenas Ah, the typical city-dweller in action. "There aren't 70 restaurants within 2 minutes of me! This is literally a third-world country!"
@Marcos Cárdenas And yet, we're somehow still better off than urban ghettos of the glorious progressive cities run by Democrats. I've been all over Louisiana and Mississippi, and what I see is people living their lives not hurting anyone. The worst experiences I've ever had in the south have always been in cities, not the bumpkin towns that you clearly have disdain for. You're confusing poverty with simple living.
I'm a millennial, and I'm feeling personally attacked having hair loss product marketed to me. Because I think I'm not old enough to be losing my hair, but man does that hairline get further from my eyes every day. Next thing you know, we'll all blink and our favorite YouTubers are marketing erectile dysfunction pills to us like the classic rock radio stations do.
Real shit dude, one of Emp's other videos where he first did a hair loss ad stuck with me. I tried that stuff (store brand though) and it actually works
@TheReaverOfDarkness No, this isn’t a pun, and it’s not even a play on words. It’s taking the literal meaning of ‘hair loss’, and it’s not clear that’s what you’re doing. It sounds more like you’re just confused.
@m. stone It's humor oriented toward some of the more savvy types of people. The sensible chuckle type. Probably targeted toward people in their thirties and up, especially among those who appreciate low-quality puns. It is perhaps a dad joke, to some extent. It is akin to British humour.
@TheReaverOfDarkness this is not a pun, and it’s not a play on words. It’s a childish joke. It’s taking a literal meaning of the words, and that’s all. I’m above 30, bro, so your lil explanation doesn’t fly. Take the ‘L’, and figure out wtf puns actually are. Again, best of luck with all that.
@m. stone Don't get mad at me because you didn't get the joke. If you know puns so well, you're having an awful lot of trouble identifying the one you're currently hyper-analyzing.
@m. stone he was joking. get over it lolll you're taking it too seriously
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@ElisonJackson no, I’m really not 😂 I think it’s hilarious; a lot funnier than his initial attempt at a ‘pun’. I find this whole thread to be a lot funnier ‘joke’ than his misadventures w/puns. But please, tell me how I’m taking this too seriously a little more.
Holy sheep sh!t! I just realized your name is an actual pun. The Reaver of Darkness ~ ‘Reaver’ is a pun for ‘river’ ~ If that’s what you mean. Puns aren’t literal interpretations. If the word ‘loss’ had another meaning of was spelled differently, then you’d have a pun. E.g.~ A man got hit by a can soda. He was lucky it was a soft drink. That’s a pun, because the word ‘soft’ has an alternate meaning. ,
This will probably get buried, but hair loss can't be treated if your hair line is receding. The follicles themselves are falling out and skin is growing over them. Hair loss can only be treated if your hair is thinning, and for that you can use finasteride or minoxidil topically (tablets aren't ideal due to systemic side effects).
See, not even being that attached to Homer, I found Grimes more annoying then sympathetic. Sympathy does not come if you keep asking for it. And I was not sad when he left
I never believed in democracy, and I won't anywhere soon neither, for it is the very thing that strips everything human and civil in any normal person. - Aidan Mccolley (1973, Ireland)
This video also breaks down exactly why its so shitty now. It was THE show for counterculture and being truthful, now its washed over and docile. Appealing to a general audience
The Simpsons was so great. Grew up watching the early seasons with my dad over and over again. Unfortunately, upon reflection, George H. Bush was right. The nation was better off when we all had an ideal to strive for in the Walton's and not the Simpsons. Entertainment is fine and I don't fault the show or it's creators but you can't deny the change society has gone through due to the media we consumed. In 1990, the message was about being okay with being dysfunctional and broken and the human struggle. In 2021, its about embracing and glorifying it. Modern America only supports two types of people. The perpetual apathetic zombie and the professional victim. The Simpsons and the Media that followed caused America to glorify dysfunctional and reject improvement. Pride in laziness, cynicism, and subverting every aspect society with no desire to build anything better. And the world is a darker place. This video made me realize one thing. It wasn't Millennials that ruined the world... It was Gen X.
What's always been weird to me is that if "Homer's Enemy" was honest with itself, Grimes' real enemy was always Mr. Burns. He's the one who underpays Frank, and he's basically Homer but at a much grander scale; more cruel, more lazy, more fickle, and more cartoonishly wealthy. And he's done nothing to deserve his position either. But the show positions Homer as an antagonizing presence in Frank's life, while Burns is treated as some almost neutral agent, even though in a very real sense, he's the true cause of Frank Grimes' misery.
I think thats partially the point. Its much in the way that the mid-lower class will claw at and fight eachover instead of focusing on those at the top, those with actual power over them
I think it is intentional that Grimes takes out his anger on Homer instead of Mr. Burns who is responsible. Because if American workers started taking there anger out the systems or Mr. Burns then Frank Grimes is a communist. But if he fights a fellow worker then he is considered a capitalist who wants to succeed. Plus it would not make sense for the plot.
I’d have thought Grimes’ biggest enemy is himself. Why did he not take more personal responsibility for how he feels instead of blaming a world he was angry at? Just treads an uncomfortably fine line, no disrespect.
I honestly can't fathom why people hate on the recent Simpsons episodes. The show remains more relevant and clever than almost anything else on "TV". The only real competition at its level these days is South Park. Simpsons viewership isn't declining because its quality is declining, the viewership is declining because people are getting used to The Simpsons and want something new. The episodes are every bit as good as they used to be, they're just still Simpsons episodes. And it retains very high viewership today, because whenever we get a breath of fresh air by watching some other show, we inevitably tire of it quickly and come back to the good stuff.
@TheReaverOfDarkness there's literally an episode where Bart Simpson becomes a gamer and they just make fun of competive gamers instead of actually doing anything interesting. They're doing the bare minimum for entertainment.
@whoitare awezzome Yes, but they did it in a way that actually added onto something, if they had something to say about society or something within popular media, they would do it in a way that's creative and entertaining. Just because they do what Simpsons did before, doesn't mean that they're doing a good job at it.
@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? From a show with ~700 episodes, it would be strange if they didn't have at least one lazy episode. I challenge you to find a show with more than 5% as many episodes that doesn't have at least one lazy episode. One lazy episode doesn't make the whole show lazy.
P.S.: I've never seen the episode in question, but from your description and whoitare awezzome's description, it sounds like it's probably creative social commentary and you just either didn't get it or got it and didn't like it.
@TheReaverOfDarkness Most definitely didn't like it. And its not at least a "lazy episode". The show has become frustratingly intolerable. From most characters like Lisa and Bart being reduced to their bare bones personality, Homer being more oafish and rude instead of being actually human, and most side characters just being the crutch for a punchline. The Simpsons is the longest U.S. TV show running so far, and it's absolutely evident. It makes me sad how much they are trying to milk this show for all its worth. I'm sure you enjoyed the show from a place where I couldn't, and I can appreciate that. But from where I stand, the modern era of Simpsons have shown me some of the worst jokes I've ever seen.
@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? I can't see your side in this. Perhaps if you watched the episodes in reverse order, it might seem to happen that way, but not gradually over time, rather all of a sudden as you got back to the early episodes. The characters have been fleshed out more and more as time goes on. One of the best things I can say about the Simpsons is that they DON'T resort to overusing character stereotypes where almost all other long-lived shows do.
Take for example Season 32 Episode 14, an episode I had never seen before and selected simply because it was recent. In that episode, Homer spends the night in jail for being too drunk in public, and gets put in a cell with Cletus. As he often does, Homer decides once again to put a good effort into improving himself for his family. After jail time, he goes to Cletus' house and learns some hillbilly wisdom (laden with hick jokes, of course), but Homer helps Cletus get his own life off the ground and Cletus becomes slightly famous. He lets it get to his head and abandons his own family, so Homer joins forces with Marge and Cletus' girlfriend to help him see what he is doing to his family.
It may not be completely original, but it's a heartwarming story I wouldn't say is overdone. In it there are many times when the characters struggle with their own obstacles (sometimes comically easy to get past, but hey), we get lots of opportunities to see what the characters are made of, and a handful of characters who grow a bit.
Barney becomes an Uber driver. Unfortunately he's drunk on the job.
Moe takes Homer's keys into custody on the fateful night and has copies made, selfishly and in secret. He steals Homer's car just to take it to the car-wash and dream briefly that he owns a car this nice. And he then returns it.
Cletus uses his love of music to communicate how often the most important things in life are the people you can rely on and who can rely on you. It's that second half he comes to face by the end of the episode.
Chief Wiggum fails to capture a drunken Homer Simpson, tries to call the cops when his car is vandalized with him in it, and is tricked into giving Snake Jailbird a hacksaw as a "musical instrument", which Snake then uses to lull Wiggum to sleep as he escapes from his cell. I'd like to see Chief Wiggum get some growth for once, but apparently he's supposed to be the buttmonkey for all time.
This episode also features some up-with-the-times commentary on how cruel and selfish talent agents can be, and fearlessly roasts Ellen DeGeneres.
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So in conclusion, I don't see what you mean about the same old stereotypes being overused. If you're referring to the characters being somewhat predictable, that could just be because you have a good grasp of their personality.
it's kind of ironic that the conservative, family values oriented culture of the past is now the counterculture of today, while the counterculture of the past is mainstream today.
Disagree about the "American Dream" part. America was just another endeavor in imperialism, it was the dream of unlimited profit. A whole new land, even if people already lived there. It was an experiment in seeing how far we could push a "free market," and it inevitably failed. The illusions of grandeur were only achieved by few, while those led astray were exploited. Those who didn't wish for the "American Dream," too, were taken there against their will. The American Dream, as a concept, is understandable. But you cannot attribute it to real life examples, such as "crossing a sea into a completely different land." After all, the Americas were highly contested by colonizers, with the French, Spanish, Portuguese, and of course, English. It's a paradoxical mindset with a destructive nature, and as such, cannot represent whatever 'American Dream' is positive. That being said, again, whatever your interpretation of the American Dream is is up to you. But the freeness of man was only given by those 'pioneers' if their ethnicity matched their own. You cannot erase history, or historical context, and as such, using those examples is wrongheaded.
The argument that "Life is Unfair" is unbelievably obtuse. Life, in a society that feeds on inequity & unfairness, will always be unfair. What fairness is obviously not meant to be absolute, the world is chaotic. Homer's Enemy seems to me, more as commentary of the fact that American Idealism is misconstrued. Grimes takes his anger out towards his fellow worker, someone who is on equal footing to him, rather than on Burns, who is economically & and powerfully 'superior' to him. It's the illusion of expecting fairness in a Capitalist society. It's the illusion of believing that those around you are the issue, a misled practice of not identifying the actual issue because you're not supposed to.
Whether you want to identify the issue or not, Homer being content is not a good thing. Grimes being ambitious is not a good thing. They are both two sides of an issue, a worker who won't bother to acknowledge his world & his exploited labor, and a worker who acknowledges it, but will expect that to push them above others. In Grimes, he is pushing that the way that the system functions should work, and is amazed at how it doesn't. In Homer, he sees nothing but his surface level, and doesn't see a system at all, or refuses to acknowledge one. In someone like Lisa, she would push that the system doesn't work (which would be irrefutable based on the standing of this episode). The system isn't meant to work, the laborer will always be exploited if he cannot identify the means in which the exploitation is taking place.
Gonna get off this video now, I didn't finish it because I feel like your account of this episode was incredibly mundane and uneducational.
People act as if the Simpsons was the first show to have a dysfunctional family. Does everyone just pretend that Married... with children never happened?
The Simpsons came out at a time where family sitcoms we're at its peak. The problem was that most of the families shown where safe and comfortable depiction of the upper middle class, basically what you expect from a loving christian family. When the Simpsons came out, they shattered everyone's expectations and shined a spotlight on every ugly wart that all other shows ignored. The Simpsons was counter culture, and as you expect pissed of a lot of people, specifically parental groups. But young adults and teens love them. For a better way to understand, watch the fall of the Simpsons by silvereyepatchwolf. He does a better job at explaining why the Simpsons were so popular back then. Tldr: The Simpsons weren't the first show to have a dysfunctional family, but were the first one to hit main stream and gain a large following.
@Omar Reyes finally someone else recognises a Bill Cosby in the original Pokémon Indigo, or whatever the Pokérap guy was called. His name was close to Cosby's, if I remember correctly
Hey Emplemon, I've been recently rewatching a lot of your videos and I've really been inspired by your videos and your words on topics and how they may correlate to a certain aspect of something or why something is the way it is. I was just wondering if you went to a certain college or university and if so, what did you major in? Also, I know this is very farfetched but I'm currently working on a research paper, with the main topic of it being global issues, mine specifically being Political Corruption in the Middle East. I have had a hard time working on it and I was wondering if you could possibly critique it for me. I really want this to be a good paper because it will likely be the depending factor on whether I move to World History Honors or stay in the same class. Other than that I would just like to end this by saying I think your videos are phenomenal and I hope you keep creating the content you make.
Where is Springfield? Well there's a lighthouse 2:29 and some ships on the water. So, it's definitely Linoma Beach in Nebraska. Springfield is part of Sarpy county, and so is Linoma Beach.
Mr. Burns was the real enemy in this episode, completely mischaracterized as an ambivalent third party that wasn't directly responsible for the woes of the workers he exploited to his own gain.
@borray s Don’t ask me. I didn’t make that comment. I’m just telling you what the graveyard metaphor implies. I’m sure he didn’t mean that everything Disney has is dead and zombified. Just a few certain examples like Simpsons and Star Wars as they’re only remembered for what they used to be and not for what they are now (Few exceptions for Star Wars) MCU is still doing well earned victory laps of having Endgame become the highest grossing film of all time and still being the only ‘cinematic universe’ to actually make it to their big finale movie. They’re keeping things fresh with WandaVision and their weird multiverse thing they’ll be doing in the next films. I’d say they’re good at staying alive and fresh.
@borray s MCU is well on it's way to be dead with their thinking that they'll catch lightning in a bottle twice and make Z-listers like Shang Chi and the Eternals big names like they did with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
@Majin Vegeta Because I care about the characters, what is so bad about that? Not to mention, there have still been good episodes even somewhat recently. I am not going to hate on the show like everyone else for being "sell outs".... sometimes, the only way to keep the lights on, its to do what has been done with the Simpsons. Yes, the actors and writers can find other avenues of work I am sure, and have, but, this is a steady check. Do you quit a job with a steady check?
@Carstuff111 nah bro,idont like it because the show is trash compared to what it was in its prime..the quality has drastically dropped & u cant deny that.its just boring & lame ass hell 😞
@Majin Vegeta Well, you can think what you want, but I do not blame the writers and the voice actors for sticking with a solid pay check, so, whatever. They still have some funny episodes, and I will continue watching when I get the chance. They will quit making it when they feel they have had their fill, and you can just get over it. You don't want to watch, cool, don't watch.
@Majin Vegeta You are still here talking? How old are you, 5, 10 years old? We get it, you don't like the show, I think the world at large can't care any less, please stop blowing up my feed.
This episode was just so mean-spirited. I hated how all of Homer's attempts to be nice to Grimes somehow made Grimes hate Homer even more. And somehow seeing all the amazing things Homer has accomplished has the same effect. As a result of this, Grimes wasn't sympathetic at all. On the contrary, he was all too easy to hate.
The principle that hard work should create rewards doesn’t necessitate resenting someone who gets rewards for no hard work. That’s illogical. It just necessitates hating when hard work doesn’t create rewards.
Would have been healthy TBH, maybe wih a recurring enemy at work The Simpsons could have been more serialized thus being able to tell other stories or tell them differnetly, instead of flanderizing every character, developing them.
@Hunter Caper Nah, man; it just that we still mostly use the Queen’s English over here in Canada, with come small exceptions.
For example; with use the American pronunciation of certain consonants & words like “H” (sounds like “‘Atch, not hAt’ch), and film (sounds like “film” as opposed to “fil’m”).
No real rhyme or reason as to who’s English we end up using across the board, but it’s still very much a unique hybrid of both North American & the Queen’s English).
@Loco Madman is european not pronounced “year-uh-pein” everywhere? google what I said. i’m correct everywhere. An is for vowel sounds, not just vowels in general
@Hunter Caper Nope, it comes out “your-O-P-Ann” in that backwoods of Saskatchewan, Canada. If you speak with the local “White” accent, anyway (which I do as I was raised largely off off the Indian Reservation I was born in).
True story: I’m the only native I know who can’t talk in an Indian accent. The difference between the two is as far as that between virtually any English anywhere and, say, Mandarin or Farsi. Less speaking, more... well, it’s almost like singing, actually.
@Loco Madman So the y in front of the word makes it so that it isn’t a vowel sound. You’d be right if it was “Ear-o-pean,” because it makes the first sound a vowel sound, but the same reason you say it is “A year” is the same reason you say it’s “A European.”
@Hunter Caper Ya know, come to think of it; thank you for asking such interesting question! I’ve never been asked anything like this line of inquiries before.
Are you from a multicultural country or speak multiple languages?
I primarily communicate in just two languages myself; Good English & bad; and while I don’t write in any other languages, I can speak very limitedly in Cree, Québécois French (a terribly bastardized version of Parisian French), in addition to Spanish & Japanese. (Spanish is dead easy & I watch enough anime that I’ve started to pick it up, better at understanding what’s being said than actually speaking it).
Work in telecommunications, so it’s handy to have alternate means of communication available when needed.
What do people think they're entitled to? They think life is fair? And yet others also suffer without meaning, maybe how we view our struggles and make ourselves seem deserving is how we cope.
Personally, I cope by doing something to help others. If life is worth living, maybe it is worth giving.
Don't you want to make people happy? Homer is helpless too. He wants the best for Lisa. But he is limited in what he can do for her, same as you are limited in what you can do for you.
This is so well done. My son, Jimmy, received his PHD with multi-references to the Simpsons in his dissertation. This presentation illustrates your points: The Simpsons IS America. The Simpsons ARE America. The Simpsons is US.
This is probably the only video I’ve seen to take a whack at modern day philosophical problems and Homer Simpson at the same time. Boy does it do a good job
Words like “high concept” and “meta” are so overused their very definitions become skewed. Critiques or critics use terms such as “many people” or “most of us” to justify their own opinions, and become their own antagonist.
wait..... how many videos? im colorblind, and literally cant see the change in hue, so now I'm wondering how many times I've seen green simpsons and thought they were yellow. 0.o
@Matt J Too bad it failed to do as it was supposed to and failed to fully destroy the artwork, made sure it was auctioned off at an even higher price. Which kinda backfired on what he was trying to do.
@TestName #3343 truth is, even if the art piece was destroyed, the statement they made "we just witnessed art being made" would still hold water and it would still sell at a higher price and it would have still made banksy sad
Yes Homer is lazy, gluttonous and stupid, but he has alot redeeming qualities that imo outshine his short comings. He's taken on multiple second jobs to support his family, or in some cases just give them a better Christmas, he sacrificed his dream job at the bowlarama to go back to that soul killing power plant for Maggie, he organized an effort to rebuild the Flanders house after it was destroyed, and when he sets his mind to something (whether it's getting fat enough for disability or becoming Mr. Plow) he gets it done. This is a man who is just doing the best he can to enjoy life while also supporting his wife and kids. We could use alot more fathers like Homer in America.
Okay, you just gave away your running gag!!! I still don't get the green tint? Like when we had a tint adjustment on CRT tvs back when the Simpsons was first aired? Or what?
It is both. The content ID bot, just like your own preconceptions of what the Simpsons are "supposed to" look like, recognizes them as "being yellow". By shifting them tl green, it is no longer recognizable to the bot, and in a similar way, to the viewer.
What a joke. The simple fact is this. When the other guys slacks off and is lazy. then somebody else has to work harder. Unless the boss does somthing about it. Which most often does not happen.
Its not complicated. The honest worker most often gets treated wrong.
My father feels rampant hate for this show as it is, and this here is the main proof that I should show this episode to him. This is an episode for, among others, people who already hated Homer. What will it mean to watch the character representing you as an audience die such a stupid death?
I think there are a few of us that feel like Frank Grimes, but I feel the takeaway is that we need to focus solely on self success and not compare our circumstances to and belittle others for their success. Otherwise anyone with success of any amount will have a horde of their own Grimeys griping about how that person doesn't deserve it and they do (regardless of merit), and it all degenerates into Crab Bucket mentality.
when you can, you should prevent unfairness. When it's out of your control, be like homer. Two attitudes for two different types of situations, both are important
"springsfield home location will always remain a engima." Its been said many times by the creators its the most common city name and its still a made up city. Now im skeptical if any other info you provide is true or journalistic bullshit.
@niteowl Its ok if what I said, although extraordinarily simple, confused you. This man is trying to make sense of "Springfield" The name of the cartoon, as they named the city that. The creators said the city has nothing to do with anything as its just a made-up city, they picked Springfield as its the most common city name in America. It has nothing to do with anything special. it was not a creative decision, it was as basic of a decision as adding lettuce to a sandwich.
Nobody knew about that back when the Simpsons hit the air, everyone knew him for the Cosby Show & telling other black comedians not to "work blue" as he put it, in retrospect we should have seen it coming, like with Ted Bundy writing rape prevention guides in Seattle or John Wayne Gacy being a clown at childrens' parties, or James Joseph D'Angelo being a cop.
It's a Dutch name, with different rules from English. Another example I know is the actor who plays Chekov from "Star Trek", Walter Koenig--which is pronounced "KAYnig".
I grew up watching the simpsons and have always known that seasons 4-8 were the truly best episodes of the series, there are so many layers and truths packed in there.
This was a brilliant analysis, Homer always was the more sympathetic character to me for the reasons you outlined here, he represents the enlightened man in modern America.
In rewatching this video (16:40) I noticed you totally forgot about the part where America was founded on a desire for religious freedom. That, I believe, has always been a driving factor in American pursuits, either ignoring religion or embracing it.
Excellent analysis. I’ve thought for some time that season 8 was pound for pound the best season of the show, but also the last “good” one. Season 9 had some highlights, but basically the magic was gone forever. RIP Frank G.
you know this videos alot better than I thoght it was gonna be -sometimes whats better than rebelling against the systom is exploiting the systom I think thats really insiteful in some ways
While I may have been born in 2005, I did still manage to watch all 8 seasons of the Simpsons as an 10 or 11 year old, I think? Thanks to my family always watching it on TV and me watching for myself at times... So yeah... I was a little late to the party but, I’m still glad I experienced it nevertheless!
Holy fuck dude, this was incredible. Not only an incredible analysis of an episode I love of a show I love, but I think you genuinely gave me some sage advice. I feel I gained perspective from this. Just wanted to say thanks, this was a great experience for me.
This one and the one where Homer leads the strike are the two best episodes regarding class consciousness. IMO "So we march day and night by the big cooling tower. They have the plans but we have the power!" So good! South Park's 2 part amazon episodes "unfulfilled" Are also REALLY great.
I appreciate this content, thank you for sharing. I kinda missed the whole Simpsons thing, it was the 90s and I had better things to do than watch television. Now, it's the 20s and it's too late for hair loss prevention.
I work myself to exhaustion every day. I save most of the money I make with no real plan to spend it and I feel like I have nothing. When I was a kid I enjoyed this episode but I had no idea that I would become Frank Grimes. I had two months off at the beginning of the pandemic when I was the most stressed out ive ever been and it absolutely saved me from having a mental breakdown like the end of the episode.
Just found your channel and specially this video. It's 4am here and I'm literally having the best moment of the day, your video is perfect, please continue! Love from France :)
It's difficult to analyze this episode dispassionately now...But I remember watching this (Simpsons was my favorite show) and hating this episode at the time. I utterly despised it and I stopped watching the show regularly. To me this is the point when Homer became a complete idiotic cartoon joke, rather than a flawed character. So this to me is as bad as the Skinner episode for the ruination of the show.
The covid pandemic was like seeing an army of homer's enemies suddenly struck with the realization that without work there is no need to be who they are and thus they are slaves pretending to be free in a society where you can just counterfeit money and do absolutely nothing without any repercussion aside from dying... which happens anyway so it might as well be from excess.
The first few seasons of the Simpsons were so good they were actual stories that made you care about the characters now the show is nonsense and it's time to end it
I used to completely feel for Grimes… I used to be him. And assumed others judged me that way as well…. Then I learned my flaw. And I’m so much more happy now!!!!! Don’t blame the people, blame the system. Also you have no idea what goes on in their life, and no one cares about you. It’s free-ing :). The book “subtle art of not giving a fukk” really changed my demeanor.
This is how I felt about my brother for years until now, this account opened my eyes to my own faults. I live in a Prius going on five years now. It’s my own flaws not my brother getting treated better than me growing up. It doesn’t mean it still don’t hurt but I need to be more in love with myself and stop hating my brother and people like him. He didn’t put me here, I did. No wonder why I cry when watching “Better Call Saul” he has the same relationship with his brother. In a way we all have a bit of Frank Grimes in all of us.
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King Starscream2021-09-11 08:43:20 (edited 2021-09-11 08:44:55 )
I wouldn't be too hard on myself. It is hard to be productive without taking personal responsibility but at the same time we are kites in a hurricane with a myriad of factors creating what we become. It is unlikely you could've become anything different with the circumstances you had to endure and everything happens via cause and effect.
Also the overall theme of Better Call Saul is how the privileged and white collar class tend to dominate in a stable society due to the nature of society and people on lower rungs of the ladder are extremely disadvantaged (all while being morally judged by the upper class) to the point where an ambitious and prideful man may feel compelled to engage in criminal activity to satisfy his self-esteem.
sooooo what i'm gathering from this is that homer is right to be lazy (in a sense) because the world doesn't simply reward hard work, and thus his effort would be wasted for nothing...and that Grimes represents the ideal in case the world DID reward hard work, so his bitterness comes from optimism/trust in the system to reward his effort + the incongruency that belief has with reality.
in other words: "you tried your best and you failed miserably. the lesson is, never try."
"He had to enter hell, Los Angeles" This quote couldn't be closer to the truth, I hope that silicone city breaks apart from the mainland and floats away into the great pacific garbage patch
emplemon: "
witnessed the mighty and unbeatable us military get humiliated through a fiasco in some part of the world most of them couldn't even find on a map" me: bro, it happened last week.. and it's still happening now!! lol
at a point early in the video you referred to the Simpsons as one of the longest running sit-coms in America. This is not accurate. The Simpsons are the longest running sit-com in the world. Look it up.
there will Never Ever be another Simpsons episode like E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) (formerly Homer’s Enemy)
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black mantis2021-09-02 11:38:49 (edited 2021-09-02 11:39:11 )
Season 1 is down to earth? In the first season there was an episode with an evil babysitter, bart getting sent to France and being forced to work as a child slave and the first Sideshow Bob episode.
Not sure why I keep getting videos recommending simpsons content, since I have never liked the simpsons from the very beginning, and I was there when it first started.
Weird thing is...while I hated the simpsons, I loved futurama. Probably because the Voice actors in Futurama were less annoying. To this day. both bart and marge's voices annoy me so much that I can't sit through a single episode they appear in.
Sometimes I feel that’s my life, work so hard at every thing but nothing. For example I’ve been working for 3 years on my channel but nothing. Of course what the hell am I gonna do? It is what it is.
What a trip. You got almost 2.5 million views but less than 120K Likes and less than 9K comments. I think it might be because you didn't offer enough light at the end of the tunnel. Life is unfair as S; but it is how we handle it that defines us. We should be concerned with everything; but to worry about anything that's not directly under our control is just a waste of time.
lol "inequality always manages to slip through the cracks" then you show a diagram of SAT scores by race with blacks and hispanics consistently scoring the lowest...you call that inequality? that's genetics my friend
i love how blissful homer is...hes not perfect his life sucks but he still puts his life in high value despite his downs...hes like yeah right you wish your life was as great as mine..he cherishes the small moments and things he does have...he is a happy fish in a small pond...he does not need more to be happy...
...well he never did it to kill him only as a visual representation of his frustration from a child that refused to listen and actively tried to create mayhem.
there's a whole other video essay that could be written about the difference between how the writers intended to portray homer, how their social blind spots and changing culture cause him to not actually come across as intended, and how both those things change over the course of the series
@Asmosis Jones That's because Homer has that crayon embedded inside his brain. See how miserable he became once he had the crayon removed from his brain?
@Vallam23 Originally Homer comes off as a flawed but well meaning family man. Once the writers start having him try to blow up his family over an area code changing he just becomes a cartoon.
@Thomas Lynch that doesn’t disproves what I said. He still abuses Bart. It doesn’t matter if others do. And blaming him for his own abuse is victim blaming. I know it’s not real but regardless Homer is an abuser if we go by canon. Bart is a victim and troubled child. No need to debate canon. The whole point here is that Homer isn’t a good person by hypotheticals. He just isn’t. That doesn’t mean you can’t like him as a character or relate to him it just means he is not a good person at all by real life standards.
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Thomas Lynch2021-07-23 17:41:47 (edited 2021-10-08 17:23:36 )
@Paris Knight None of the simpsons family members are good people if we apply real life standards to them. Any violence the family inflicts on each other is presented as cartoony and lacking in any kind of realism or sense of consequence. Every member of the family inflicts damage on each other as early as the 4th episode. Homer's actual character is presented as a well-meaning family man who wants to do what's right for his children who's no more of a monster than anyone else in the family.
@Paris Knight Why are we applying real-life standards to violence that isn't intended to be realistic in any way? In a conversation that never brought up real-life violence? By that logic Bart is an abuser for attacking his sister unprovoked and electrocuting her just for a laugh in season 1.
@Andrew Smith if you are trying to apply real world morality to a fictional character you have to take their actions through said real world morality. Look, none of the characters in the Simpsons would be good people in real life. Period. That’s okay, they aren’t meant to be, and they are cartoons. My point is that you cannot make the argument that Homer is good person objectively ESPECIALLY after all the Flanderization he’s went through. I specifically stated this and so did other that we are taking in real world standards because OP gave off the impression that the standards he’s judging Homer in and the video is also using real world events, social norms, etc, to analysis a cartoon show. The truth is you cannot automatically write off real world standards because the Simpson is not sterilized. It doesn’t have a coherent world and rules. If we judged the show by it’s inconsistent morality everyone would just like a saint because you could make excuses for everyone for being confusing and incoherent. Anyways…The word of the day is: COMPREHENSION. Dude it was never that serious to begin so please let it go.
@TheSergeantatarms Yeah he had people accusing him of various shit for years, the main reason why nobody knew about all of it was that he was such a powerful and beloved person in Hollywood for a while. It really wasn't until Hannibal Buress did that one stand-up routine about him that people really started paying attention (yes, really. Look it up).
here's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
I’m rewatching this episode right now and I can notice something about meritocracy.
First of all, Burns gets inspired by Grimes’ life story, asks Smithers to hire him and then forgets about him and hires a dog as his Vice President. I’ve heard these stories countless times.
Second, Grimes is alienated by meritocracy. He thinks that because he has a degree and he works his ass off, that means capitalism should treat him with fairness. Let’s make it clear: meritocracy doesn’t exist. You depend mostly on luck. That’s what Homer has: he doesn’t know anything about Nuclear Power Plants, nor the economy, he doesn’t even know how he got that big house in the first place. That’s all luck. Homer isn’t aware of that, but some rich people will always try to alienate us into thinking that if we work hard, we’ll be as rich as they are. No, you won’t become Elon Musk by studying hard.
I don't remember how i got recommended to your channel, but since i did i've watched the last 2 years worth of content you've made in full, keep it up, this series in particular is a major banger
You have to have a very high IQ in order to understand “Homers Enemy”
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The new guy2021-02-27 00:37:26 (edited 2021-02-27 00:38:31 )
If I told my friends that these videos were philosophical, odds are that they wouldn't believe me, and wouldn't watch the video. How could a YouTube video about an episode of the Simpsons affect you in any way? Honestly I have no idea, but here I am, watching these videos that somehow always gets me thinking about deep stuff. I'm glad I watched it to the end as always. This content is amazing, everyone needs to see it, but I guess we will just have to wait for everyone else discover this for themselves...
Emp and videogamedunkey are the best youtubers, not only currently, but of all time. I think the reason for this comes down to one simple thing: passion. They seem passionate about making highly rewatchable and well thought out videos that are unlike most. I used to see so many channels pump out a video a day with the same exact format as the last video and it becomes not only repetitive, but increasingly more boring. When I watch a YouTube video, I want to watch something enjoyable, well made, cohesive, rewatchable, and not exactly like the video before it and I think Emporer Lemon and Videogamedunkey are the greatest examples of that ever.
@Comrade Joseph Stalin of the USSR 1) You haven't watched all the YouTubers on the platform, thus you cannot conclusively state that (not to mention that many channels and content do not exist anymore). 2) What you come to YouTube for is not what others come for. Some people love the disposable everyday content that comes out of certain channels. You cannot say they are better or worse in a general sense.
Some people prefer science channels. Some prefer make-up tutorials. Some prefer vlogs and pranks. Some prefer podcasts. Some prefer animations. And some simply enjoy whatever they happen to enjoy at one point or another without a clear unified genre, tone or make.
I agree that Emp and Dunkey are extremely rewatchable as I have personally spent hundreds of hours consuming their content. I don't think they are the best. They are fantastic but the title of "the best" is impossible to determine in a general sense because context influences their "rank". You cannot define a YouTube video on a ranked ladder because the definition is worthless for that.
In case you simply made a personal comment of your preferences, then this entire comment can be ignored. But I would implore you use language that communicates that it is indeed coming from your perspective and does not necessarily apply to everyone or what many would call "objectively" (I dislike the way the word 'objectively' is popularly used so I prefer to avoid it as much as possible). I cannot discern from your comment the state of the address - personal or general - and thus I responded in the case of the latter.
Side note: I think many of Emps videos have flaws including this one but they are still extremely well made and have mostly very interesting ideas and messages. As much as I like his content, I think there are far better channels on the platform if you filter out a lot of their content. Their best outshines Emp's best by a lot.
@SiMe "(I dislike the way the word 'objectively' is popularly used so I prefer to avoid it as much as possible)" then used it correctly and be the example to follow, so others can "copy" you and use it correctly, stop being a snob.
@SiMe Really? You don't have to agree with my opinion or write a wall of text as to why i'm wrong. I don't have to word anything to sound "less objective" and I don't need you to implore me to do so. I don't care about your opinion and you needn't care about mine. That being said, Dunkey and Emp are the best youtubers and I mean that as objectively as possible.
@BallisticaMetal I can't because I won't be understood because it requires explaining the entire epistemological premise behind it first. The popular definition is flawed in most of its applications but most people kind of understand the point so I saw it as a preferable way to communicate my message here. I thought to maybe make a video about it since that way it could possibly be easier to understand with some visual aid. It's a complex topic, so trying to explain it in the middle of a comment would be unreasonable imo
@Comrade Joseph Stalin of the USSR then my comment was on point. Thanks for making it clear. Although, perhaps I used the word "implore" incorrectly here. I'll say "strongly suggest" instead. I never said you have to do anything and I didn't have to make my comment either. I simply chose to do so as have you. I agree that we don't need to agree on opinions. I was simply addressing your comment since it seemed like it wasn't just an opinion but more of a statement of fact (which is impossible to conclude without setting a standard and including everybody else in it). That's why I'd suggest you use different phrasing to make it clearer that it is indeed just your opinion (there are subtle ways to do without using "in my opinion" after everyy sentence).
I just presented the case for my suggestion to you. That's all. And I usually write longer comments. That's how I am. If someone chooses to not read it because it's long, is fair enough. I don't expect many people to read my comments. But some do and that's good enough for me.
You don't need to do anything nor do you have to care about what others have to say. I simply expressed myself, as have you.
"Believing that we are now subject to the same tyrannical oligarchy from which our forefathers originally fled" "The only difference now is that we have run out of oceans to cross." ...Jesus.
You know, the episode where Grime's son tried to kill homer for revenge literally left me dumbfounded like....its too hard to believe that Grimes could been older like flanders is and have an adult son, so i always though. How come Grime's Son grows up but the simpsons stay the same and don't age!?
@Arrenjee look at the politicians, policies and income inequality in the south. That's what's bad about it. We legit had to have an whole ass civil rights movement to end segregation there lol
I been the Frank Grimes character at the job twice before. I been passed over for promotion and had to take orders from those who are incompetent whom you either humble yourself to get along with or start butting heads with them. Then they try to treat you like some pee-on by putting you on trivial job assignments jusr to show you whose in charge. But, the truth is nobody rewards hard workers and good workers aren't missed until the company is stuck with a bunch of incompetent workers who can't even carry your work load nor do it as fast and efficient as you can.
Yeah, I've been there. That's why I quit being a doctor and now I do art comissions - fuck being a hardworking backbone with a job that makes a huge difference if I'm not properly rewarded - I'd rather be a useless slacker who does next to nothing for a good price and appreciation, since this is what the world is gratifying right now and we need to adapt adequately. I can still presribe myself medicine if I need to, but screw helping the morons who thought they could use me. Being competent and meaningful is severely overrated. Why save a life of a baby for 14 bucks an hour, sweating, stressing out and having to use over a decade of education and being vulnerable to lawsuits, when I can sit around at home in my pajamas scribbling away on a tablet or typing shit?
lol i work at...basically copying papers for a living. I sleep most days cuz i literally have nothing to do and my pay is slightly above average ish in my area.
Since i dont ezactly have hobbies i can at least be lazy pretty much almost every day. Tho it does get lonely and boring at times.
@atur chomicz that’s very true I worked in a very understaffed warehouse and all 3 of us quit when they didn’t want to negotiate and my bosses called me and begged to come back the next day and we all went out for drinks and laughed at how none of the trucks would leave that day
Genuinely one of the best descriptions of the American Dream I’ve ever heard. And in a simpsons video? I knew you were good after watching the dale video when it first came out 😂
I must be new to this channel because this is a really well put together piece. One of my long time favorite episodes and I definitely missed a few things.
The point of the video (in which you can attribute to America & western culture), is that its not worth getting caught up in the unfairness of life. Most of us will never make any great strives in changing world for "the better". We're mostly along for the ride. Holding a grudge against it, will lead to a meltdown - like what happened to Frank Grimes. Still, the ignorant bliss of Homer can only last until you drink down some acid, in sheer foolishness. Maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle of hard work in the rat race & the Laisse-faire approach. Or maybe there is no answer. We're all just just coping with the struggles of a world which is burning around us. The two options are blissful denial or running yourself ragged on the treadmill, just to stay in the same place. We're all just opportunistic A-holes who does what's best for them, at the cost of the "greater good".
@Picky Physics Student or we can build solidarity among the working class and work together for the common good, like they’re doing in Vietnam and Cuba
@Manny Song I mean it hasn’t so far lol; both countries were dirt poor and starving before they changed their governments and now they have vastly higher standards of living thanks to new politics and economics
@dragonsder the average Cuban lives longer than the average American, is less likely to be homeless, and is far less likely to die during childbirth. But no, Cuba was dirt poor and fascist when they changed their government. Imagine what the richest country in the world could do if it changed its government to work for the people
@dragonsder People argued against you and you disagreed even though you have no idea what you’re talking about cause you said you know nothing about Cuba.
EmpLemon: You... Were on the trending tab? You? Corporate accounts: Sure! You've never been? Would you like to see my golden play button? EmpLemon: NO! I WOULDN'T!
Seeing this has been such a huge reminder why I love things like video games or "silly" videos online, because a simple critique of the Simpsons has become a commentary on American society and a small philosophical reflection of life
Honestly if I won the lottery and died from a lightning strike that would be the happiest and best way to go out. You’re so bliss from that feeling of life changing income and the harsh realities of actually winning the lottery hasn’t hit you yet. And things like the most hopeful then they ever have. You’ll feel very lucky too. Just pure blissfulness ignorance and in a literal flash you’re dead. You didn’t even know you’re dead. So basically you win the lottery and you live the rest of your life in pure bliss and died quick and easy no suffering and honestly a cool way.
I've been waiting for you for ages you are the true scale of justice of all commentary channels I have been a fan of yours for ages and when I start my channel I hope you understand you are the true inspiration for the channel I plan on starting you might hear this allot but you must understand this is truly sincere I respect your change from ytp to commentary and I like your style so much I'll steal it but you'll never know who
Strangely, Homer and Grimes' character dynamic is extremely similar to Spongebob and Squidward's character dynamic. Spongebob is just an entire series based off the same theme this one episode portrayed.
@joeflosion I don't think emp lemon is a communist or anything lmao, he just hates the whole fakeness of corporations trying to appear authentic when it's all a scam or when they're doing something actively corrupt and wrong, otherwise I doubt he cares all too much. Also every YouTuber cares about views. (I do agree with you though that I don't want it on Netflix because I don't like them lol).
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There's one clip from the Simpsons that lives rent free in my head and shows that despite his flaws and screwups he is still a good father. Lisa took up ballet only to discover that the other kids all take up smoking and ending up getting addicted by secondhand smoke. And when Lisa's addiction escalates to needing it firsthand, homer just bursts in, slaps the cigarette out of her hands and just unloads several rounds from a Pistol into the cigarette.
Great video but couldn’t agree less about the Simpsons being past its prime. It’s called evolution. It’s evolved. You don’t need to like it but it’s amazing still
Very interesting video, sums up why I think the Simpsons is the best show ever. Not a fan of the "new" episodes but, no one can deny the old episodes and how much heart and dedication was put into them.
There are way too many people in these comments concerned about money and wealth. For one being wealthy is a matter of perspective. Also, nobody here has any right to envy someone else because they feel shitty about their own situation in life. Do something about it. Another thing, a college degree does NOT make you intelligent or more deserving than someone else. That's probably the biggest lie told in the world today. "C's and D's make degrees and open doors for me not thee!" Any idiot who has their mommy and daddy (mistakenly) wiping their ass and buying them a first class citizen ticket (degree) can make it through college. There are even incompetent doctors, lawyers, and engineers in this world we live in. If you're dumb enough to take out student loans when you are 18 years old you deserve the debt and stress. It's beyond ignorant and well into the realm of stupidity to take out those kinds of loans with no stable source of income and no guarantee of employment. "Nobody ever got rich working for someone else." Bullshit. It's very possible if you work consistently and put out quality work. Don't waste your money on frivolous instant gratification bullshit. INVEST. Way too many lazy shit bags in the west making excuses for themselves.
I remember watching futurama the first time at my grandmothers house. Trying to navigate the cable box when we were used to regular cable. surfing channels and looking at the preview window when we stopped to watch what we thought was simpsons, but because of the older TV the skin looked more yellow like simpsons. Groening, you bloody genius
As someone born in the 21th century, when the Simpsons were already known in the world for at least a decade, that episode caught my attention for the one realistic character for the first time I've saw it, but it didn't take long to forget about it after seeing the tons of self parody episodes. In my perspective, the actual peak of the show is the movie. They not only made their problems get an actual sense of danger by enhancing it's scale but also put than in a conflict way too different from what they usually handle, and they do it while doing the same critics and references they always did. It's sad to see how after the Simpsons other shows started to hit their peak so much faster, like Family Guy and Rick and Morty that only have 5 seasons yet.
The first ten minutes of this video might be the most perfect and concise explanation for why this is arguably the most important TV show of all-time (or at the very least became the most inspirational).
Brilliant video. For every person that grew up watching The Golden age of The Simpsons who still watches to this day, this video is a must watch. I agree with a lot of commenters. Growing up, this episode was unnerving. Overall, this video sums up everything old Simpsons fans have felt the last 20 years or so.
Ive had to have watched the first like 12 seasons like 30-50 times and this was always one of the best. Always had a disc on repeat in my dvd player in my room. Often listened to commentaries like a podcast while playing diablo or mudds. Good times
This episode is what I think about when I complain about how many series have no continuity. It's a perfect example that you don't need , for example, Homer to continuously be an astronaut, but that you should at least have people acknowledge he was one. I just wish series would be more like this. They can be even more continuous if they want (Adventure Time, for example). But leaving everything as self-contained episodes just ends up leaving them as a formula that gets boring.
Now that I think about it, Season 9 was the last season of the golden age. It may not be the biggest masterpiece but it felt like it was just a fun season to watch. You have episodes like The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, Treehouse of Horror VIII, The Cartridge Family, Realty Bites, Bart Carny, The Joy of Sect, Dumbbell Indemnity, Girly Edition and King of the Hill. These are just one of a few episodes of the season I found to be amazing. The season is also home to my biggest guilty pleasures like Miracle on Evergreen Terrace, The Last Temptation of Krust and The Trouble with Trillions. I also feel like the season still has some brilliant political commentary, some heart, great laughs, solid character writing and fantastic satire. Even if this season doesn't always have these traits as often as earlier seasons. They're still there consistently throughout Season 9. It's a season later when these traits slowly begin to deteriorate. In my opinion, Season 10 may have classic episodes like Mayored to the Mob and Mom and Pop Art but I have a hard time putting the entire season in the golden age
@17:17 "Many Americans now experience disillusionment with the American Dream, believing that we are subject to the same kind of tyrannical oligarchy from which our forefathers originally fled. The only difference now is that we have run out of oceans to cross." goddayum those two sentences hit hard
only the simpsons could jump the shark with one of the best episodes...all though some people will say the episode where they truly jumped the shark was when bart becomes a jockey
Having recently rewatched some Alf episodes including one where he hits on Willie's daughter in front of him I think it was a poor choice to put it in that montage of shows that were conservative and sanitized. It was noticeably more edgy than anything else on TV in the mid 80s, until Married with Children hit in 87 which was the real combo breaker, not the Simpsons. The Simpsons just took what these other shows did and ran with it. Where Married is a mad cap parody, Simpsons is more a cynical deconstruction.
Grimes acts like homer is rolling in dough but many, many Simpsons plots and set pieces suggest that they are barely getting by. For me this just made Grimes seem petty and vindictive, a self defeating character so obsessed with what he is due that he repels success (an Elliot Rogers basically), which makes his end fitting. The 'older/younger self' take is interesting though, the corporate grind takes young hungry craftsmen and reduces them in the end to homers and grimes. Either you become so obsessed with success/status/control you can't attain that it drives you mad and bitter or you say 'fuck it' and in the words of Simpsons Merry Poppins "Just do a half assed job!"
37:00 most think the Principal and Pauper is the jumping the shark episode, something so ridiculous as completely deconstructing a longtime character and saying "yeah everything about them is fake" was a huge punch in the gut to fans, all in a way to "surprise" people are they've already done so many other tricks and people know what's coming.
i dont get why this episode is so widely beloved. I dont particularly like it. But i do prefer the older episodes (i assume season 2 and 3).
This video certainly makes a strong case, but i suspect I was a bit too young (and sadly didnt see the series in order only through reruns) to experience this. Born in 1995 for context. Wouldn't hav started watching until the early 2000s.
Are we really better off knowing the truth? Are we really okay knowing that rock bottom has a basement? Are we really better knowing that life can get so much worse, and there's absolutely nothing we can do to change that?
"William H Macy usually plays working class roles". Let me introduce you to the show Shameless. To be fair that's just one show. But that's what I know him the most for. (He plays an awful drunk, drug addicted, scheming dad)
In reality, they are yellow because at the time research had proven that yellow was eye-catching and they figured if the characters were yellow they would catch people's eyes as they flipped through channels. Then the comedy and drama would make them stay
I think that assessment really undersells homer’s character. He was never absent, he explicitly got a job that would allow him to be there for his family despite it compromising his dreams. He just struggles to relate to his kids. Lisa is a genius for her age and very politically focused while Homer is a layman who doesn’t put much thought into that stuff. Bart is a delinquent and a ball buster and Homer has a short fuse. He’s always willing to be there for his family. He just is very bad at getting to know them.
ngl when of my favourite Simpsons moment is when after, Homer ask Grimes son how is father is and then he says he died in the most angry way, ive always loved that.
what I've never understood about Simpson's and family guy and I'm sure many others is why not make the characters age? sure at first you wanna keep the status quo at first but these shows have been going on for so long, they're a joke(not the funny kind) and at best background noise if they're watched at all, why not change things up?, imagine juxtaposing how Bart and Lisa would go through highschool/college/get jobs/raise a kid? you could inject new life into a show that's older than i am by simply aging characters
in a show free to poke fun at all things culture, religion, politics, and anything like that, they removed Apu because he was to "offensive" of a character, give me a f u c k i n g break
to be fair apu wasn't that much of a recurring character in the show anyway, and if they'd removed him without making it public no one would've noticed
7:11 "It's remarkable just how different the simpsons was than anything else on television at the time. It was edgy, subversive counterculture..." cough cough Married with children cough cough.
This video leaves out a key part to make him look a lot worse than he is. When he saves Homer’s life, Homer immediately blames him for the wall getting destroyed knowing that he’ll face serious consequences whereas Homer would just get a warning. RIGHT AFTER HE SAVED HIS LIFE.
Old-school Simpsons: Owned by FOX... constantly trashing FOX (And Disney) New Simpsons: Sold by FOX... now worshipping Disney
If Disney had any respect for the Simpsons, they'd DEMAND that the Simpsons regularly trash Disney. The Simpsons is the original Punk-Rock, and Disney is the oldest establishment media still standing. There's no way they should be allied!
If Disney wanted ownership so badly for their streaming service, fine... but you've got to do SOMETHING to promote the anti-establishment identity of the property. That's literally the show's number 1 defining characteristic.
If Disney wanted to do right by the Simpsons, they would Make Disney their new Burns. Hell, I'm pretty sure most Simpsons fans would actually RESPECT the gesture of Disney allowing itself to be the villian in one of its biggest properties... and it would CERTAINLY make for a more watchable program and punctuate the transition to Disney ownership.
I always thought the Simpsons were yellow because it was like a child's crayon coloring of a white person, since cartoons are usually aimed at children, but in a satirical way as the show was aimed at adults.
Talking about 32:50, Mediocrity. I feel like people are too invested in a show like this. Eventually stories have been told and there's nothing completely new to be written. I gave up on watching The Simpsons for it's plot a long time ago, and just enjoy watching it away. Even though shows get more stale and effortless, I still feel like watching it. Just like Family Guy, eventually you just watch it brainless with a pizza in your hand during dinner. Stop trying to get something back that ended a long time ago, just enjoy the fact it's still on tv and you can still enjoy it brainlessly. I still prefer these cartoons over shows like Modern Family of Friends
LOL cue the gran turismo franchise music. It makes for good bg music. Also, a dkc 3 gba remix. Wow, we have similar taste in videogames, haha. Nice video!
Jesus man, you've gotten huge since your ytp days haha. And the quality has gotten insane. Keep up the good work, and you deserve every bit of success that comes your way
man, the simpsons had always prediction over the years. this episode prove a point. it seems now and says everyone can be rich and famous without any talent or much skills, or work hard.
The last scene made me uncomfortable to say the least. The show should have ended in that season and spare us the ninth with its "The Pauper and the Principal".
You know, I thought this might be an interesting video to watch, its too bad the focus of the video is not so much the episode but... literally everything about the simpsons. I am 6 1/2 minutes in and hes talking about gen x, like wtf why would i watch this crap for 41 minutes. too long buddy
an insanely insightful commentary on the simpsons, and also, america! grimes proves that anyone who calls out the simpsons reality will be killed on sight.
The joke could have worked had they implemented the son more thoroughly into the episode... He appeared like a combined total of 2 minutes and then he was gone ... Something that did not help is that they kept on coming back to Frank Grimes's tumb stone but we never got to see the son ever again...
Yay, another veri- You know what, I don't know if you guys think you're quirky or funny when you make these comments, but if you do, just remember: YOURE NOT.
@w4str | haze archive I don't have a problem with that. My problem is with the comment. Stop cherrypicking nonexistant info. Edit: I just looked over my comment, and I forgot to add in "when you make these comments" to my top reply. That prolly resulted in some confusion.
@KM did I say they can't enjoy content? Did I say they cant be normal? No. My problem, as I stated above, is with these generic, like begging, redditor-esque comments verified channels make. If he left some comment like "hey man, great video as usual" when the vid got posted 2 minutes ago, then hes lying, sure, but at least it's not unfunny. Generic, sure, but its not the unfunny type of generic. That, I would be fine with. This, I'm not fine with.
@tHEChannel you acting like every comment gotta be this highly thought out funny groundbreaking statements that you find funny, the world doesn’t revolve around making you laugh bro
damn everyone lets it slide when unverified accounts make this joke but the moment a verified channel dares to do what everyone else does it's evil cause they have a checkmark
So wait, a video about the Simpsons turns into a deconstructionist of modern Politics, History, Problems and Solutions, and the conceivable idea of Freedom
Bruh guys just chill not like it’s hurting you guys and everybody has opinions and we may not agree with them but doesn’t mean we should revoke their right to speak
@NickThePringle Sheesh what's wrong with you? I know this dude, it's clearly by passion that he watches stuff like that (having talked about lots of underground musical stuff). can't he have the right to watch and enjoy something like the rest of us. I actually watches his videos, that verified mark is 100% worthy.
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Why are emplemons viewers so toxic. Every video he makes has a theme of enjoying something while it's there. If you listened to him you would realize that yelling at one guy will hurt him and nothing else. Stop spending your time hurting others and enjoy the good in the world
"You leach off hardworking men" except almost everybody in Springfield leach off of Homer like Moe, Apu, Burns, Krusty, Wiggum etc. Even his family technically did the same thing and they have done nothing but give headache after headache for him and yet Homer continues forward because he loves his family.
@Sara Fontanini grimes biggest flaw was putting the blame on homer, rather than the system. the episode (unintentionally) serves as a cautionary tale about how not to work, as frank performs backbreaking labour in the efforts to become rich, while never achieving this goal, homer retains his dignity as a worker by not buying into frank's "cult of work" and spending his time enjoying himself while making more than he needs to survive.
As a jaded 20-something living in one of the most expensive cities on Earth, I really needed a video like this to remind me that wealth isn't everything. Thanks, Emp.
I feel like I've just watched a classic youtube documentary. Like one of those vids that you come back to years later to reminisce on because the writing and research was just that good.
The Simpsons were so fascinating and interesting at the beginning because they were so different, nowadays its nothing special anymore because we all became the Simpsons.
I'm drunk and I apologize if I'm talking out of my ass, but after watching this video, I think it's very interesting that your youtube career took a turn upon parodying the Homer's Enemy episode. You said in this video that Grimes represents the traditional American dream, while Homer represents the modern idea of exploiting the system and achieving the dream. I imagine that you, Emp, were also on the cusp of making a decision between those two ideals. Like you said in your Frying Comments video, you had the option to go to school and work a 9-5 job or continue to make youtube content as a career. And nowadays children are all looking up to youtubers and trying to become famous rather than pursuing that traditional American ideal. You decided to make Youtube more than just a hobby for yourself and from my perspective have benefited, though I guess only you can make that ultimate decision. It's just fitting that you started your own path to achieving the modern American dream by parodying an episode that tackles the same topic, and I think that you're one of the best people to analyze this episode based on your experience. Loved the video.
Season 8 ended on May 18, 1997. Someone born the day after will be turning 24 years old next month. From infant to adulthood without a single good season of The Simpsons in their lifetime. Amazing.
I was born in 2003, but I still happily go back and watch the quality television I missed. Sure, perhaps the newest airing episodes have always been mediocre, but my favourites when I was younger were always the reruns of old seasons. Yes, I missed out on the episodes when they were new, but I still enjoyed watching them for the first time, even if I was a bit late to the party. This applies to The Simpsons, SpongeBob, and a number of other shows that simply lost their quality to the sands of time, and of course greedy executives who refuse to let them die with integrity.
Yeah when I was a kid I only ever saw reruns of season 1-8 (we don't get Fox channels in my country). I always got super exited on the odd occasion they showed new episode only to be supremely disappointed by the episode itself.
Oh please shut up with that, as if the Simpsons were lame after season 8, come on season 9 and 10 got plenty of great episodes. The show changed by the years but it remained funnier and more clever than most shows on tv.
With no disrespect this is just a flawed comment to me. While I always agreed that Season 8 was the end of the Golden Age of the show it's not like there aren't still great episode's scattered about over the next few years. I mean "Das Bus" was season 9 and it's one of my personal all time favorite episode's. Maybe it's just me idk
But does it matter? I was born after that date and still enjoyed all the good seasons on DVD (and don't forget Hit and run!). I suppose it's unfair though. I too have had thoughts about people being born from "impossible years" now being as old as I was when I began to suspect that my life had peaked some time before and that the downward spiral had sworn me in. (It's all OK now tho) It must just be human nature. It must just be like our parents (or grandparents) talking about people being born after The Beatles ...but we know nothing about that band, right?
I just turned 12 when I began to watch the Simpsons in 2006 and I noticed the difference between seasons 1-13 and the modern ones. And I preferred the ones before 13. But hey, the important is that I was the right age to enjoy the Simpsons through and through.
Although as a small kid in the '90s I remember that whenever the Simpsons were on, they'd usually show something that would stick into my mind. Like the Halloween episode where Homer becomes 3D. God, what a trip that was.
I feel like Season 9 had some good episodes (The City of New York vs Homer Simpson, Lisa's Sax) but they would be so young when they aired they wouldn't remember them.
I was born 2000 and started watching it daily when I was about 7-8 years old for years xD It was my standard evening series and I never noticed the "newer" episodes were more "bad" at the time. Personally I like the episodes after 2004 too, maybe because I grew up with all episodes.
People that speaks this way is so crazy. Because there were countless amazing seasons and episodes clear until season 20. That's the one that sucked. I haven't seen any other seasons beyond 20.
I've always hated that "life is unfair" philosophy. Life is entirely fair. It's fair because it's random and chaos. It is only unfair from an extremely selfish perspective.
I got a 4 mm kidney stone last month. It was either going to happen or it wasn't. Fair.
I've come to notice that when people say things like "life isn't fair," or, "that's just life," it's usually in regards to a decision that one PERSON made which affects another person in a way that they don't like. Example: I had a coworker who noticed that she'd been scheduled for eight days in a row with no day off. She had expressed to the manager that she wasn't happy with this and that she had been looking forward to spending time at home with her new puppy, to which the manager told her "that's life."
No. That's BULLSHIT. It's a part of human narcissism (HUGELY a symptom of the human condition) to take one's "authority" and put it on the same level of fate, destiny, life, what have you. This sort of overarching mentality of "the system" or "standard procedure" or whatever... this idea that a structured system can be put into play by enough people that it absolves incidents and occurrences of any and all accountability. Its why people are okay with the death penalty. It's why people accept war/military activity. It happened to us just this past year. "2020 did this to us" or "Covid did this to us" is a lazy way of accepting horrible things that are done to us. Neither 2020 nor Covid took away concerts/live events. Those decisions were made FOR us. I'm not debating the necessity of it, I'm just calling it what it is. We're worshipping abstract ideas and conceptual things as if they are sentient beings. As if they are omnipotent gods. It's the modern-day equivalent of sacrificing a firstborn to keep a volcano from erupting. Then again, this world is heavily populated by people who will blame anything and everything on "Mercury being in retrograde."
I guess I'm just trying to say that life itself is fair. You live, you die. You get sick or you don't. Some have more and some have less. Some work harder, some don't.
But things that are done to us by other people, ESPECIALLY what's done to us under the guise of a faultless and blameless system, is highly unfair.
Well you most certtainly are getting there. A true Son of Ur. All against all in some wierd manner of twisted chaos. After all, I am thankfull for all the pain and harm inflicted upon me. I do not seek revenge or anything but it has opened my eyes wide. I would not change a single thing.
l find really amazing how you talk about every aspect of the episode except the most ovbious fact. That Frank Grimes worked hard and studied his entire life while homer was out there living it. l think that is the most important message from the story
it was a pretty confronting episode, but I guess it was designed to deliberately confront the idea of homer. Sometimes writers come to work and hate their job, and thats a method of generating creative energy.
i always felt bad for that guy for dying in the end, as a kid that was one of the earliest times where i cringed at something in fiction that i thought was just, wrong.
Not everything that's good has to be revolutionary. The narrator makes it sound like the Simpsons invented and/or popularized a more cynical view of family life. In fact, "Married.. with Children", another FOX show, beat them to TV by two years, and arguably did it better and more cynically. On Simpsons, Lisa didn't sleep around, and Homer showed much less contempt for his wife than Al Bundy did.
This episode was a Story of a good man driven to insanity and eventually death how the simpsons managed a to balance such a sad story with such hilarious comedy will always be a mystery
I've always thought Grimes was the most toxic character ever. Like just chill man, the system will never notice you despite how hard you push yourself. Why feeling the need to be the sharpest tool? Why wanting to be a tool?
Good work guy...very provacative. I remember when that episode aired brand new and I was blown away. I remember thinking...'people aren't gonna like this.
I argue that The Simpsons was fantastic from seasons 1-9, good from seasons 10-12, decent from seasons 13-14, the movie was great, and now it’s a big mixed bag of a show with good/bad episodes.
Frank Grimes believed that putting your nose to the grindstone and never looking up would make him wealthy and happy.
Homer Simpson knew that all working harder did was make your boss richer, instead opting to game the system to get by financially and letting his actual life outside of work be his source of happiness.
Homer saw through the lies that Frank bought, and Frank resented Homer for it, because seeing Homer defy everything he believed shattered his view of reality and ultimately his sanity.
He hated the player. He should have hated the game.
Its something I try to tell my parents all the time. They are honest at every turn and about 90% of the time it bites them in the ass. I would literally steal a big screen TV from Walmart and not feel a hint of guilt, yet if I dont hold a door for someone I feel bad. The world is built to fuck you, you cannot beat the system.
The internet was supposed to put the power of media in the hands of the people, mega corporations own more of the total entertainment than ever before.
You cant work your way up in a company, they dont even care if you do a good job. They want their own kind, a yes man, a person who makes them look good and maximizes their profits.
There is no morality in the face of billionaires. No crime against them holds any quandaries, no grey area. They are leeches that will eventually return society to nothing but slaves and slave owners through sheer economic power. I would watch public executions of anyone worth more than $100 million and feel joy
I'm Scottish I'm 21 I've been raised with my own culture, English culture and American culture and can say Ithink what's wrong with America really boils down to the fact that you think you're superior to everyone else in the world but refuse to acknowledge that it just isn't true. It's why you almost elected a dictator and It's why your country is so divided just like England is and it's really down to the fact that just like our Empire yours is crumbling too and people don't want to admit it because that would mean admiting that America isn't the best which goes against everything you were raised to believe. The Simpsons was so revolutionary because it wasn't afraid to say yeah America we're fucked up too just like everyone else is. We're not perfect but that's ok because no one is and in a way they're a more realistic representation than any other family on TV because they acknowledge what's wrong with them
Well American and French ideals often traveled back and forth. Laissez Fare has been engraved in the American Psyche so much so that even the most collectivist of people can't comprehend the sheer ideal of being forced to do something for the greater good at the expense of what you wanted to do.
I see this all the time- this sense of fairness you refer to- it plays a huge role in political thinking in the United States. Ppl want to apply this one for one, tit for tat- type justice to every situation- it just gets way more complex and nuanced in reality though- nothing is ever that straight forward. The world we live in can not be broken down into black and white, wright and wrong- and therefore this childish sense of fairness really doesn't apply to a lot of situations. But- politicians know exactly how to appeal to it, and it works every time.
@MS Seh, de hecho tal vez hay una correlación entre latinoamericanos que aprenden ingles y los Simpsons, ya que es una serie alrededor de la cultura Norteamericana, dónde se habla inglés, y tiene un gran impacto cultural.
Thanks to this I know I watched enough Simpsons in my life. I don't need to watch all the seasons. I stopped watching in the middle of season 10 and I was probably bored sooner.
I would like to make a note that many people disregard.
While the quality has declined, it still remains popular because the benchmark was high to begin with. People dont acknowledge that the quality is still above most other content on american tv.
frank snatching the bottle of acid from homers hands and throwing it and homers reaction was like an idiot getting wacked with a ball bat to knock some sense into him and he looks at you like he didnt even feel it. its very evident that homer doesnt learn from anything.
I guess Homer can be glad that there was no social media at that time in front of all twitter. Considering what some false allegations can do to a middle age yellow man.
I still don't see what's wrong with simpsons later seasons. I actually like that it evolves with the times. It's pretty much why I kept watching it. I love that did character development with other Springfield residents. The family also less 80s sitcom more human. I do get concerned Disney might ruin it though coz were carrying fox so had creative freedom. Not sure if will have it with Disney.
Has this guy watched the show and actually paid any attention? Homer IS the antagonist. That's why "the older generation" hated this episode. This episode marks the change from when it turned from a Tragic-Dramedy (which is almost impossible to write, I literally can't think of another one) into a slapstick comedy.
This is my favorite episode of the simpsons, but you mislabeled GenX'ers like my self with Baby Boomers. I guess Millennials' can't tell the difference. With that said. Thanks for you're work on this video.
I don’t know if you’re a sports fan. But we need another video about “why there will never be a championship like super bowl 52” like go over the patriots dynasty, the Carson wentz injury, the true comeback story of Nick foles, the back and forth game. And the underdog mentality of the never before champs the Philadelphia eagles.
Damn, I never thought a Simpsons analysis video could change my life, but here we are lol.
It just made me realize I’ve been Frank Grimes my entire life. And it’s been very difficult. While I don’t necessarily wanna full on become Homer Simpson, I definitely could learn to take it easy sometimes.
Frank Grimes - Squidward Tenticles Homer Simpson - Spongebob Squarepants
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Michael Cooke2021-07-27 11:01:58 (edited 2021-07-27 11:02:18 )
"there comes a time in all of our lives that we want to go out and change the world but eventually, Life catches up to us" - a youtube pooper who just made a video reviewing the simpsons
5:17 Funny how the 1970s seems to be looping back in on itself in the 2020s. Remind me again who was it that said the 2010s were like a modern re-enactment of the 1960s?
I was wondering if he realized this. I personally felt like that was the final betrayal of the show, the possibly longest running joke of never knowing where the town was
Sadly it might not be Homer that's wrong with america. But Frank is wrong for America. When Homer's lazy awful life style promotes him while Frank goes unappreciated. Then it's America that is wrong. Cause no matter how well or much he does, the system he's in won't recognize him after the rules they both acknowledge. Cause one doesn't want to put in effort to acknowledge it. In a life or death situation his efforts are well supported. But in an office environment where profits go to his boss or in war where both sides loose. Then no amount of work will actually work. And going against the system obviously means you see something unjust have been done. And if your work is appreciated and your ethics are aspired, then is the one you attack in the wrong? He says Homer is what's wrong, but when lashing out and questioning everyone's attitude, then it's the system that's wrong. But he's also wrong for assuming america goes by the same standards he thinks they do or should. It's a sort of illusion of what is right when in reality the system wasn't made to be any of that. So he's not right in demanding the system to be right, cause it was wrong for him in the first place. And the only way to get what he deserves is by learning their rules and abusing it. Work gives security but manipulation reaps rewards.
I was about to say, but there are more good Simpsons seasons, then I saw that all the episodes I could mention were indeed part of the first 8 seasons, but well I don't remember watching the past 2013 and I just stopped using cable for over 5 years, I only have a cable box becuase my ISP is a cable company and they always bundle cable with their internet plans, but as The Simpsons, it's just a memento from a different time.
6:37 ok if the simpsons were based on the the creators family including himself? That means that it should take place where he was born which means that it should take place in Springfield Oregon
In the video, he says "The true location of the Simpson's home may forever remain an enigma," but it's literally based off of Springfield, OR, a town just South of where Matt Groening was born and raised, and Matt said so himself during an interview with the Smithsonian back in '12
Me too . It's like in his finnaly part of his video he countradics everything he said . Stay ignored Don't stay ignored Me Can you make up your mind If I stay ignored should I even care what a rich YouTubers opinion is about the Simpsons and why are they still going . If they can come up with New ep should I care .
A lot of kids grew up watching SpongeBob. They loved the jokes and wondered why Squidward didn't go with the flow. Then, they grew up and realized that life can be terrible. In that moment of clarity, they resonated with Squidward.
if you feel oppressed, it's really your own fault. Freedom isn't about getting what you want, but doing what you need to do in your own terms. You have the freedom to change jobs and move. IF you don't it's because you chose not to.
You keep saying "Homer is successful because..." as if there is any real way a guy like him could own a big house and 2 cars these days. Homer is successful because he's an imaginary cartoon who the animators wanted to draw in a big house. There is no lesson we could learn from him that applies to the real world.
@Salty Candy Stuff I disagreed with the point. Totally different. But hey, if you want to put forth a counter-argument I would totally hear you out, as it stands you have not done that at all.
@Will Menta Cartoons are exaggerated for a reason but it doesn't mean they can't be symbolically realistic. Homer is successful even though he doesn't "deserve" to. He barely works or does anything useful yet he is a lot more wealthy than any average American. Grimes however works as hard as he can and with as much effort as he could possibly put into his job but is not even close to Homer financially. This isn't just because it's a cartoon, it's symbolic of real life. You see this everywhere, where people who work much, much harder than others are less successful, while those who put barely any effort into their lives are living happily.
However Grimes looks at this disparity in wealth and his world-view is completely shattered. His entire life he worked thinking that if he works harder he'll be more happy. When seeing how Homer lived, this view completely derailed and he became jealous, frustrated, hopeless and angry at not only Homer but himself. When Grimes explains his living conditions to Homer, the only thing Homer does is see the advantages and the good in his lifestyle. This alone shows one thing that's completely different between Grimes and Homer.
This is literally symbolic of real world living conditions. The fact that this flew completely over your head shows that you either haven't paid attention how different people live or you simply didn't pay any attention to the video.
@Salty Candy Stuff Again, I understood that the first time. And I disagree. I don't think there is a single man in America who owns a 3-story home and supports 3 kids and a stay at home wife, and 2 cars and sleeps all day on the job. That was my point.
I GET that some people are lucky and succeed even though they are lazy. What I disagree with is the idea that there's any useful lesson to be learned from imitating Homer. You can't be lucky on purpose.
@Will Menta It's not a lesson on luck, it's a lesson on contentment. Grimes loses his fucking mind when he sees how Homer lives and instead of simply being content with what currently he has or take advice from Homer he simply hates him for it, when he has nothing to do with it.
How are you missing this point? I'm baffled that you can't understand this
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Will Menta2021-07-27 08:57:35 (edited 2021-07-27 08:59:58 )
@Salty Candy Stuff First, you are kinda shifting your argument away from my original point. I was disagreeing with when the video said Homer was successful for certain reasons, not that he was happy for certain reasons. I was, and always have been, addressing the point about Homer having a big house, 2 cars etc... That's what Grimes was mad about, I'm simply saying that's unrealistic. I have said it again and again. How do you keep missing the point? I am baffled that you can't understand this.
2nd, even if you are trying to make Homer out to be some kind of Buddha role-model for contentment, it's still JUST A CARTOON, I argue that you're simply not going to learn anything useful from Homer Simpson, nothing about him is realistic. I GET that you think it's a good lesson, and I disagree. I don't miss the point, I disagree with it.
How do you keep missing that point? I'm baffled you can't understand this.
@Will Menta The fact that you keep undermining the message of the episode by saying that it's a cartoon is extremely sad and disappointing.
If you value the message of art by simply seeing what form it is in then you are never worth my time discussing the simplistic values of an art piece.
You have wasted my time by completely failing to understand a point that is laid in front of you three times and it is almost like you are deliberately attempting to completely misunderstand everything said to you.
I'm done with this. You seriously need to broaden your basic scope of artistic appreciation rather than devaluing a message by constantly saying "It's a cartoon" because it just makes you look like a buffoon.
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Will Menta2021-07-27 20:18:20 (edited 2021-07-27 20:18:44 )
@Salty Candy Stuff Oh my god! I've disappointed you? Noooooooo! Please say you forgive me! I can never live with myself knowing some random person on the internet is disappointed with me. Please! Please! I take it all back! I'm so sorry I had an opinion about a cartoon show that was different than yours!
@Pròchazka So weird to do that. Whats even the point of just hucking your opinions into the wind? Why do this if not to be involved in some kind of discourse? The dude think his ideas are so important that reading them will make the world a better place?
@Skeets McGrew why don't you do yourself a favor and actually watch Attack on Titan before talking shit on it. I know I'm late in replying I don't really care...
He IS the victim though. He is completely right in his critiques of the unfairness of his position. However, much like the majority of the working class of today, he buys in to the competitive nature of the workplace. He believes that another working class person was the problem, not quite understanding that the real issue was with the owning class (burns).
@Declan Jones Homer isn't working class though, he's firmly a part of the middle class, owning a home with a wife and three kids being supported on a single income, meanwhile Grimey lived in a single bed apartment. Homer may not be "the" problem, but he was definitely a part of it, after all his lethargy places his responsibilities on his lessers rather than his superiors, and his complacencies lead to the unjust treatment of those below him, he benefits enough from the status quo to not wish to challenge it.
What, you didn’t want to have Homer’s semi-charmed kind of life? Homer simply mastered the subtle science & exactly art of falling & missing the ground (not unlike the way Arthur Dent learned to fly in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy).
"They witnessed the mighty and unbeatable US Military get humiliated through a fiasco in some part of the world most of them can't even find on the map" DAMN
@Aqua Lantern Yeah, I got that. I'm not replying to EmpLemon, I'm replying to your comment. What's so significant about that part of the video? You say "DAMN" like it's a big deal.
People seem to think the US lost or pulled out from vietnam because they couldn't physically win, the reality of the situation is that you can't fight a long war without the public and the medias support and since the US had neither the war ended.
@You Squidding Me? The difference is that the middle east is being fought for a combination of oil, border lines and poppy fields. Vietnam was fought because of it being perceived as a communist threat.
@1810Jeff What people? Everybody I talk to about it knows the US lost because they didn't possess the political and social will and determination to win.
@Odin Sørensen So you're asking which people believe the US pulled out of vietnam because they were losing the war militarily. I've heard a lot of people mock the US for "losing" the vietnam war saying things like how they couldn't beat people with decade old weapons and sticks. If you want an example the quote on the original comment says it all.
@Odin Sørensen And to my knowledge, it's mostly because the war was sinking in more money than it's worth and the outcry of the American people made Nixon get the troops out of the war. Now were the Vietcong strong? fuck no they were, they were a bunch of farms with USSR weapons, the Americans made new War Crimes just from how many of them we killed with Napalm and Grenade Launchers, the death ratio shows this.
@Nick Rustyson Yes, that is what I mean when I talk about the US' lack of "will": The *will*ingness to spend the sums and commit the kind of warcrimes that that war required to be won. The Vietcong on the other hand had the will to force the US into committing those warcrimes against their own people, just to make the US too queezy about the whole affair to keep fighting. And that willpower allowed them - along with a number of other factors such as terrain - in the end to compensate for their inferior logistics and technology, and so they were actually the stronger combatant of that war. Results count.
@1810Jeff Afghanistan was invaded with the excuse of "the terrorist threat", Iraq was attacked with the excuse of "The WMD threat", Syria "The chemical weapons threat". There is always a manufactured threat to get the war machine going. Oh and big paychecks for military manufacturing corporations.
@1810Jeff Plus the same argument can be said about practically every overseas war. Like the British Empire could say "Oh the colonists didn't beat us military, we just didn't have the finance and support to send an even more huge force there to crush them!" At the end it's just a sore loser's response. the US lost the Vietnam war in the same way most wars are lost, and that includes on the battlefield.
@Nemo U I can see where you are coming from but you are comparing apples to oranges, the british lost because it wasn't worth fighting long term because it took them months to send soldiers so they decided to cut their loses but if they could have taken it back they would have. The difference is that if the US wanted to it could have razed the whole country and been done with it, it was never a serious war if anything it was more of a virtue signal than a full on war which is why it had little support. Another difference is that the british empire didn't have to care about support because they weren't a republic that lived and died by it's populations opinions.
Two other great episodes spring to mind: The one where Homer grows his hair back and becomes kind of successful and the one where Skinner lies to superintendent whatsisname about Aurora Borealis while the burgers in his kitchen turn into flames! Ah these memories
What a tremendous explanation of the Simpsons as a show! Now I have an idea on why Simpsons became so influential, even though it was targeted towards a generation that has so little in common with mine. Academic Agent has covered Gen X in detail, but now I understand its culture a bit better. Also, I like how you included average SAT scores. They are a nice, subtle redpill.
So what you're saying is... Frank was so obsessed with reality that he became consumed with the ideal of "fairness", whereas Homer is so idealistic that he's able to decide his own reality
all these 5 paragraph essays looking for attention and emplemon likes a comment simply thanking him for the video. now if thats not meta i dont know what is
@Majin Vegeta I agree. I love those characters. Been watching them since their first season. It was funny. Sometimes sentimental even if rarer. There isn't too many shows that has imperfect parents. Homer as much as he doesn't succeed often he never stops trying when he's aware he's doing something wrong or something that could be done better. Marge is a great wife in the show and together they are one of the best husband and wife characters out there. Every character has their faults. For many years it was everyday relatable things among the cartoon antics. They are no longer relatable as they've been stripped of what they once were.
@Majin Vegeta I'm a Beavis and Butt-Head fan. The ended when they should have. They tried a revival and I won't fault Mike Judge for that. I think he wanted to try bringing back entertainment where it should be. But Beavis and Butt-Head would never be allowed to be what they were once.
@Wraith Ranger From Beyond yeah broski im glad im not the only one who noticed, they really changed the whole vibe & dynamic of the show once corporate took over..
I think the next Never Ever should be on Team Fortress 2, it's honestly the most unique game in the entire "hero shooter" genre, or class shooter if you're a human. and considering you've said it's your most played, it seems fitting.
@gunner Richthofen cs community is hot garbage, also not even the same category. not to mention tf2 is timeless, literally hitting all time highs by the day. stop
I saw Frank Grimes and his funeral being more of a metaphor on how millennials were treated and eventually rejected the world as it was. And Homer was the oblivious boomer generation.
Funny because the episode is clearly stating that the same effort doesn't equate to same results.
Homer is only oblivious after landing a stable job, he had a harsh upbringing too, while Grimes is unhappy with everything he does but angrier at homer for achieving more with Similar effort.
If anythyng it exemplified how millennials lack the ability to work for themselves always comparing to others, then becoming oblivious and trying to change a world that does not revolve around them.
@Myron Sanders the observation is actually very astute, and doesn’t inherently not apply to Gen X as well (only to a lesser degree). The last generation with quote/unquote “work ethic” came out of the 80’s (and that was largely fueled by “Toxic masculinity” & copious amounts of narcotics).
...I think I hate myself for having said that... 🤦🏽♂️😅😝
I disagree with your entire premise of Homer. I don't think anyone looks up to him. I don't think he's a modern American hero except as a satire of it. I think when people see things magically work out for Homer they never expect that in their own lives. I think Homer is a cartoon character, people enjoy the absurdities of his behavior and circumstances. That's it. He's a fool, a jester. He's not an icon. We have no expectation of his outcomes or a desire to be like him. He's a terrible husband, friend, father, son, neighbor, etc.
If there's any wish fulfillment in enjoying his character it's not as concrete as HIS character it's more emotional. We exist with intangible emotions and desires that more abstract art and commentary can tap into, we are not so singular or one dimensional that to associate anything of Homer is to want to be Homer in total. There are itches humans want to scratch that simply don't fit in our normal lives. We might like a little slapstick violence, but in real life we don't want people to get hurt. A cartoon satiates. We might like a little pettiness, a little revenge, a little laziness, but that doesn't mean that's what we want for our lives, nor does it mean we're jealous of Homer. Merely entertaining the absurdity for brief periods is often enough for people. We have imaginations, and we have thoughts. Ideas can be escorted to natural ends and emotional satiation can follow.
This episode does a good job deconstructing the Simpsons and Homer specifically but it doesn't mean there's anything more deep to it than cartoonish nonsense. There are characters and episodes of old Warner Bros. cartoons that deconstruct their own absurdity. We don't have to identify with those characters any more than we hope or expect our lives to be like Bugs Bunny.
This only makes sense if you started watching at season 10. Rewatch the pilot and you'll see he's overtly the underdog and Flanders, AKA ideal America, is one of his obstacles.
@J Lupus I've been watching the Simpsons since about 1992, I was late to the game, but I made up for it by watching the first seasons about 10 times each as they've been on reruns nearly my entire life.
I appreciate your opinion, but I see Homer as a vessel that various people invent ideas to pour into. I don't think he means anything. As much as I enjoy people crafting "head canon" or tying up plot holes, I also realize there's no unified Homer theory because he's been run and written by so many people, as have everyone else on the show.
I'm sure there's a dozen TV Trope articles about what I'm describing, where over time a character just becomes many things to suit whatever needs at the time. That is what I mean about Homer just being a cartoon character. I don't think he's ever meant to be viewed deeply or consistently.
@promontorium So he's just a trolling satire for the 90s? What about the consistent trends of the same character arcs of those first 9 seasons (like where every time he irreversibly messes up or hurts his family he ends up feeling bad about it later on)? For him to be as malleable as you say he is, he'd have to have inconsistent character traits. But he doesn't- he's always consistent. IDK, maybe i'm missing something though.
The Simpsons isn't worse, it's literally the same mirror of America that it's always been. It's so terrible today because that's where America is now... it's slow descent into mediocrity is a direct mirror of today's woke America.
“Homers success stems from the intrinsic value he placed on those around him” Cuts to homer trying to choke his son to death for the eight hundredth time
Yeah I thought that was bullshit. Homer doesn't care about his kids whatsoever. He cares about Marge and that's about it. Compare him to Peter Griffin who is literally a manchild who cares only about himself then yeah, he's a saint.
18:40 - Homer represents The Last Man. Homer is the Last Man and Frank Grimes is The Slave in regards to Friedrich Nietzsche. No, Frank Grimes is not The Higher Man. Frank failed to create anything of lasting value, failed to create invaluable progress. What we see here is Frank unable to improve himself or his own life situation. That was his downfall. Frank thought himself better than Homer but failed to try to be even better of a man by his own standards. Frank scapegoated Homer and paid the price for pretending to be like Homer.
'Homer's Enemy' in this story isn't Grimes. It's Mr. Burns. He's the way he is because he's stuck there, doing it all to support his family, having a 'do it for her' plaque on the wall. This is why he has a "boss makes a nickel when I make a dime" attitude to his job and the idea of making an effort to work hard and be productive in the plant actually goes against his own morals
1 John 1:9
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9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
I might never watch a video analyzing the Simpsons again, because in less than an hour you've covered just about everything the Simpsons was, is, and could be.
I can see where Franks frustration comes from but he is no saint... he is also a big hypocrite. He has that speech that people that work hard are ignored all their lives but when he came to dinner he pointed out everything that Homer had except the eight year old daughter with a an IQ of 154... meaning he does the exact same thing everyone has done to him all his life. He also claims that having a beautiful wife is something to show for but having a daughter that inteligent is nothing. Which may give us an in-sight that he is a bit of a machist... if you are not convinced he also likes hookers as explained in an episode further down the line... This episode is in deed very psychological
Not gonna lie, I didn't expect such depth, complexity and quality from an analysis on one single episode of Simpsons, and more importantly, one single character and his relationship with Homer. I was honestly caught off guard. I feel like I need to watch it a few more times just to start comprehending a part of it in my mind. There so many ideas and concepts being explored here that i have no idea how you managed to cover them all in such clarity and yet I still felt overwhelmed.
Wow this video and the supplementing analysis were brilliant. I had never seen much of Simpsons as a foreigner but I saw the episode and then the video, absolutely brilliant.
When i was a kid we would watch the simpsons every saturday after my piano lessons qnd those are easily my favorite memories, i think it would of been around season 4-6
It shows how young Emp is. He thinks the Simpsons were doing something different by doing what many shows has been doing for 50 years in covering pop culture or making fun of the President.
I would say something witty and insightful here but honestly you pretty much said it all about how I feel about the series and that episode. People keep digging into me because I want to call out the mediocre sellout that is new Simpsons, but I keep believing that the show will never again be like it was in this era. Although, I personally believed the show actually jumped the shark in the 2000 episode where Homer dresses up as a baby for Mr. Burns, and gets raped by a panda at the zoo. Yes, that was an episode. I forgot the name of it, it was so awful.
This episode was always weird to me because Mr. Burns is almost entirely left out of the story. Frank Grimes blames Homer Simpson for all the problems he has, but it's Burns that chooses to pay Homer a middle-class income and doesn't reward Grimes for his hard work. Grimes is a libertarian, blind to the systems that cause his problems.
In context of who Grimes is it makes sense though, the average employee no matter how hard they work will most likely never meet the man at the top. No Amazon factory worker has probably ever even seen Jeff Bezos in person.
@Finley Kennedy My dad relates a lot to Frank because he's just like him, and he works in a place which is made of like 70% Homers, 29% regular people and 1% Franks (my dad only I guess). The only difference with your comment is that my dad knoes the people that run the factory and they don't even care about it. The Homers have worked there for almost 30 year and there's nothing anyone can do, or else the factory goes to shit. Good luck working in that kind of environment. I always like to come back to this episode and think but it also doesn't reflect the complexity of the situation irl, at least it summarizes it but in reality things are much harder and not that black or white.
The decline and fall of the Simpsons is a revealing picture of America's collapsing sense of mental wellbeing. Once upon a time, the underlying assumption was the America was imperfect but ultimately good. We lost that though, slowly over many years, both in ourselves and in the media that reflects it.
The earlier versions of the Simpsons gently mock our society; but they do it affectionately. We see that the police are incompetent, the teachers are apathetic, and that fundamentally maybe the American dream was not so perfect. But these jokes were jokes; exaggerated versions of what us cynical people think things are really like. And everyone was treated equally. Everyone has a stereotype. The show plays on that, and subverts our expectations by having broad cartoon characters actually be more nuanced than we thought. Or not; it's still a comedy. Sometimes the joke is that we expected Homer to learn a lesson and he didn't because it's funnier. But even that meta-humour derives from the fact that the audience already know what the lesson is supposed to be. This kind of humour is timeless, and speaks to everyone. It explores what it means to be an American, in a format that is loving, not aggressive.
Even in the earlier days when we look at founding myths of America - With Jebadiah Springfield's silver tongue - And it reminds us that we should look at these myths critically, and that we should also continue to look for historical clues and evidence to give us a clearer picture of who our founding fathers are. However, it also says that the myth itself has value and that it shouldn't be simply tossed away. Lisa chooses to let the town residents believe that their town founder was a good person that they should emulate, because at least that lie encourages them to act in a good way.
This is actually a really deep moment in the show. Lisa generally holds truth and objectivity as the highest virtue, and she has to grapple with that when she sees that truth is a-moral; it is neither good or evil in and of itself and that undermining something that is good and has value simply for the sake of truth is actually a bad thing.
The present version has lost this because it is no longer mocking something that it loves.
I dunno, I'd be fine with praising Jebediah if he wasn't such a scumbag, continuing to keep a blind eye on his monstrousities for the sake of keeping morale up is kinda disrespectful to the memory of his victims. A stronger message could've been that it doesn't matter if your roots are rotten because you still ended up being better than him, like Dr. Manhattan's speech about miracles in Watchmen. You can still be a good nation even if you accept the bad stuff from your past, instead of pretending they didn't happen.
But no, let's instead encourage the American people to ignore parts of history because their feelings are more important (but let's pretend the victims of those lies don't have feelings). I might not follow Renegade Cut as much as I used to, but I fully agree with his video on the Jebediah episode and why I hate the ending. Or at least they should've framed it in a more satirical way as "It's crazy that people would do this for the sake of their happiness", instead they kinda played it like an unironic happy ending, like something that it's okay to do.
It's kinda like how some people love to believe Americans did only good in WW2 and want to pretend all the fucking war criminals that took advantage of that chaos to do their worst in France didn't happen. "Well, who cares if some French women got harassed or our boys killed some innocent people for the kicks, in the end we did good so don't bring that up 'cause that's disrespectful to us!" ...See how little sense that makes? Those fuckers aren't alive, and they shouldn't be blindly celebrated just because they were in a team of good soldiers. And just because some American soldiers in WW2 were awful human beings, that shouldn't discourage you from being better than them, so you can still learn from their better or worse example and be a good soldier.
@DeepEye1994 Why is the memory of his victims so important? They're dead and so is he. If believing on a lie is better for society at large and the people who are actually alive, then i don't how that can be a bad thing. It's a harmless lie, and more than that, one that actually does good.
I'd be all for deconstructing the American war crimes in WW2 if the people who suffered from then and perpetrated them were still alive and kicking. But the thing is, they're not. Most are either dead or have one foot in the grave. Meaning that there's not a point to seeking reparations to the victims and punishment to the perps. What are we gonna do? Track down their descendants?
Truth for the sake of truth in itself is meaningless.
@DeepEye1994 When Family Guy has a better conclusion to this exact same premise: by sticking the monument of Pawtucket Pat in a museum to be forgotten...
The Springfield in the Simpsons is based on Springfield, OR. Groening chose to name the city in the show Springfield because of how many cities share the name and wanted more Americans to feel like they can relate to the show. I avoid Springfield, OR at all costs. I've seen the show, I know how bad it is there lol
I have no interest in Melee, WWE, and equaly in Nascar, yet I am praying (atehist here) for more of this series. Duuuuuuuuuuude! Keep this content coming. I'll drink more mezcal (or any other alcoholic bottle in my shelft) while watching your videos.
3rd time watching this, lately feeling a lot like Grimes lately. Definitely gona do something stupid and childish this weekend, wish i had a homer Simpsons to hang out with
homer is a true capitalist. he's selfish but uninterested in hindering other's success. many philosophers actually consider that to be the ideal way of life due to it's reflection of the natural world. a monkey doesn't care what a lion eats, as long as it isn't him. all the monkey cares about is eating bananas in a tree. the limited supply of bananas isn't a problem to the monkey, the only thing he cares about is whether or not there are bananas for him. if some other monkey ends up with an unreasonably large number of bananas, and there aren't a whole lot left in the tree, that makes him a prime candidate to take banana's from. the system is self regulating.
Grimes is the opposite. using the monkey analogy: despite the fact that he still has plenty of banana's, he's angry that some of the banana's he picked where rotten, and he thinks that therefore he's entitled to take from another monkey.
one takes what he needs, the other takes what he believes he deserves. in a weird sort of way, everything's come full circle. the modern generation is more like Grimes, while the older generation is more like homer. this will of course rotate once again with gen z becoming opportunistic again.
Great video. The general perception of The Simpsons today seems to be "that lame mainstream cartoon that's been unfunny for decades" but people don't know that it initially was the underground edgy cartoon that appealed to the rebellious youth.
Best. Episode. Ever. (Oh, and Mr Sparkle and Springfield's "X" Files). Sadly, no longer watchable as Simpson's writers lecture us via the oh - so - woke, Lisa.
Springfield is based on Portland, Oregon. I live here and the creator of the Simpsons is from here. We even have a neighborhood here with streets named Homer, Marge, etc. Lots of stuff is based on Portland history and folklore. Like the statue of the mountain man. The power plant too.
It's actually based on Springfield, OR, and Matt Groening said as much himself during an interview. The powerplant and the statue of the mountain man are all Springfield, but it's funny that you think it's Portland. In a sense, it's all towns, like the video says, but it's literally Springfield, OR
15:09 An interesting piece of foreshadowing on the video: " YOU'RE what's wrong with AMERICA , Simpson" Since you just take the emphasized words and you get "YOU'RE AMERICA", which ends up relating to the whole Classic and Modern America representation
I've given it some thought and basically. The Frank Grimes character is the death of the old style of the American Dream where you could break your back doing menial labor and expect social security, a well-paying job that gives you insurance and retirement benefits. Life partners who will marry you for pragmatic reasons, and you raise kids specifically so they'll support you when you are old. That system doesn't exist anymore. If you want to be successful, you need to exploit the meta that wants to entrap you. Work a shitty job for a couple of years and put all your money into something that has a return that's big enough to where you can afford to invest in a dream or a project that you like doing but is expensive. Succeed in doing that, and you can actually have things like a partner who likes you for you and kids you can actually spend time raising to enjoy them.
Now you have to talk about the best episode of the best tv show... Season 5 Episode 14 of Breaking Bad, the only episode on IMDb to have a perfect 10/10 rating with over 100k ratings.
Challenging work, out of doors, guarantee you wont go hungry. Cos at the end of the day, long as theres 2 people left on the planet, someones gonna want someone dead.
Idea: there will Never Ever be another band like The Beatles (if you need to, use a different/separate video sharing platform to avoid copyright barriers)
If you ever get around to it, I've got a great idea for a future episode: "There Will Never Ever be Another Sitcom like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"
I've never watched this show but the Homer vs Flanders thing sound like what goes between Timmy's dad and Dinkleburg. Not very related to the video's topic, I just thought it was neat
I don't know why this episode is so popular - Homer is so over the top mean spirited it's like he's a different character than the one we had grown to know and love. It's bizarre.
Good video, it does remind me of supereyepatchwolf's fall of Simpson's video quite a few times though.
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Agus Puig2021-05-05 16:21:04 (edited 2021-05-05 16:31:25 )
so the moral of the story is that things will always be unfair and you can either fight against it, change nothing, and waste your life, or sit back and relax as everything goes to shit? and that second option is what a modern hero would do? im not even an american but im 100% on grimes side on this one
The moral is that you should either sit back like Homer or fight against the system, fighting against Homer (Someone who did nothing to Grimes, ADMIRED him, who's suffered a lot more than Grimes ever has, and who only slacks off because of how bad Mr Burns abuses him and the others) instead of Burns represents pure egocentrism and a superiority complex. Homer may look scummy by not trying to change a system that screws over others, but from his perspective all systems are equally trash, and he has supported more people than Grimes has ever supported with his "fairness" stand.
Jesus fuck the level of attention to every small clip played with the voice over "getting the short end of the stick" while Moleman is hit in the groin and his stick is left standing lol Hats off to this guy, he knows his simpsons
I like how Fox went from new and progressive while ABC and what not were supposedly conservative Annndd now Fox is the lone conservative and is slowly falling.
Bro, some people think the Simpsons writers are time travelers and if they are, do you think they named frank grimes frank grimes on purpose? Because idk it just seems like a coincidence of sorts.
the 'american dream' idea, truth was it's never been achievable, and the attempts in 1950 for the housing market, for example, had ripple effects creating a worse situation today
there will Never Ever be another video game/fps like Team Fortress 2? I know you like it, you keep using its music and your old ytp have lots of references to it
Grimes represents the people who feel cheated out of the American Dream where you'll be rewarded for your hard work and despise people like Homer who, embodies a different version of the American Dream where living a carefree life is it's own reward.
The episode itself was a classic, but Grimes was just not a likable character. He's bitter, stuck up, and was constantly trying to prove he's "superior"
The question of fairness is not that complicated yes there are things in this world that is out of our control but what is unfair is how people makes things unfair like bad parents giving everything to one child and ignoring the other and when the kids says it’s unfair the parents say the world is unfair there are plenty of examples of people all over the world making things unfair for other people
(Born in 1999) I will never forget the night my father brought home a DVD copy of the first season of Simpsons, made some popcorn, and "introduced us to our ourselves"
Man that generation X portion of the video had me going: "Gee that sounds familiar" a million times over, my generation (and the two following) had to deal with very similiar bullshit.
Its like we've been stuck in a loop since the 80's.
20 minutes in and I still don't know why there will never be another episode like this. Video should be titled something like "how The Simpson's were a reflection of the US in their early years"
I was literally just thinking last night after watching the Stanislov video, "Damn he hasn't put out a never-ever for a year, I wonder if he's gonna do them anymore" then blam, next morning I get this.
I mean Trump running for president and the Towers being attacked were also really telegraphed and predictable but that won't stop people from thinking that Matt Groening has a magic 8 ball that works.
I hate seeing recent events and things in simpsons episodes. I didn’t watch it as a kid so I can’t miss the “old” way it was. It’s just weird now. They shouldn’t have iPhones. They shouldn’t have YouTube. I don’t like it.
Great video, I have one question though. The graph you show about racial differences in SAT scores seems to portray a societal bias, not random unfairness as stated. The graph shows the average scores of students admitted to Harvard, to me this only shows that Asians are expected to have high scores, not that Asians trend towards higher scores.
I think it implies that acceptance into Harvard only depends on the best SAT scores, which I disagree with (success in college, work, and everything in life comes down to many factors including work ethic and character, not just 'intelligence'). The implication behind THAT, I think, is that we should never EXPECT full equality, affirmative actions taken towards it or no. And while I MILDLY agree that some things will be unequal no matter how hard we try to change them, I feel like saying "unfairness will always exist so don't try to fix it" is akin to saying "you're going to die eventually so why bother living".
@Findinglio Spugolingi I agree, the statement “life isn’t fair”, while true, doesn’t mean that we should never try to make it fairer. We may never live in a perfect world, but that means we can always live in a better one
Homers Enemy actually got a sequel. It’s an episode we’re a mysterious man is trying to kill Homer and Homer is wondering who is trying to kill him. Sideshow bod helps out Homer into finding this mysterious man until a concert or something Homer finally finds out who is trying to kill him. Frank Grimes Jr (Franks son)
Funny how Gen X and Millennials are so similar we may as well just be one giant generation. Despite media still thinking Gen Z are Millennials... I will never understand their misplaced cultural labeling of people largely in our 30's to early 40's now, as if we're all 15.
I dont think that was the point of the episode though. It was more about what happens when you allow bitterness about how unfair life is to ruin you. It can apply to anything. How pretty you are, how tall you are, how smart you are. Nobody EARNS those things, but getting angry at those who have them wont hurt them, it will just hurt you
I just recently found out this goldmine of a channel. The way you deliver your commentary is unmatched in the Youtube landscape. I spent non-stop 4 hours watching as much of your content, and I still do not feel a burnout by your content. You deserve all the praise and subscription, continue doing what you do. But, I have a few questions, do you have a Patreon link to donate? Secondly, will there be a commentary on anime shows like Attack on Titan or Death Note, or Code Geass? I would love to see how you interpret these shows and the themes presented in them.
I know it is trendy to say that the Simpsons had been declining for 20 years, but I still like the show. I think people get tired of things over time and that is a bigger reason for the show's decline than the show's actual quality. Also, as we have been watching the show for so many decades now, we can see all the jokes coming. That said, I still find those jokes funny, even if I see them coming from a mile away.
I do like the connection you've made between Ned and Homer and Frank. It's an exploration of God through creativity. Ned is blessed by God, Homer comes to be blessed by God (in the show being successful). This leaves Frank, who is also blessed by God in that he is given death and escape from the miserable trap of his existence. Like a mercy killing. I always loved the ending personally - it's a sharp dose of unpleasant reality, like all truly hilarious comedy.
Maybe its a little to obvious, but you should do one of these on the End of Evangelion. It's such a monumental series on it's own, End of Eva just caps it off in such a spectacular way. Not to mention there was plenty of controversy about the original series ending, and countless fan theories and conclusions that can be drawn from the actual movie itself.
The Simpsons has gone entirely downhill after S11, E05 at precisely 10:49. Never has a single Simpsons scene surpassed that, nor will there ever be one to even come close to it again.
homers enemy represents everything society laughs AT: hard workers, ppl who make an honest living, ppl who think rational thoughts and have logic, etc...
Of course not, the Simpsons were a good show that lasted about 8 seasons, and was filled with memorable episodes and served as a sharp commentary on the American culture. And than it got replaced by the Zombie Simpsons, or Zimpzonz which is nothing but endless roes of pandering without any originality and spirit, and who like a zombie walks despite being quite dead (having no brain activity) Its just that no one have had the guts to kill it.
Season 9 had some good episodes too. There were definitely a few dumb ones but season 10 is 100% where they lost me. When they killed Maude Flanders in season 11, I tapped out.
I disagree with the claim that Homer places a high value on those around him. He is an alcoholic that often neglects his family, physically abuses his son and doesn't even remember his youngest daughter's name. The sprinkled instances of him being kind or caring to them just serve to show that he is not a psychopath, but they are clearly not his top priority. That honor goes to self indulgence in alcohol, food and entertainment. Like how he was willing to risk his job and livelihood in order to go to a tour of a brewery, or how he forgot to pickup his son from soccer practice because he was busy watching tv.
Maybe it's just me; I wasn't so impressed with this episode. I think The Simpsons had reached its peak a couple of seasons before this. I used to looooove the Simpsons but I haven't watched many episodes in the last 15+ years or so.
There's also a reason why the 80s and early 90s sitcoms were the best. Nuclear family! Even Fresh Prince, Family Matters showed that the black family functions best with the nuclear family and of course the most important thing, a strong black father (employed, married, owns a home, defends the family, teaches life lessons, and works hard at family and career).
"The first show to extensively reference other popular media"
I'm afraid that recognition goes to St. Elsewhere. It's much less accessible to a modern audience, but if you really want to understand how and why TV changed you can't ignore that show.
A lot of ppl fail to notice that homer caused grimed to be depromoted and had to pick up a night job when homer almost drank acid and grimes tossed it out of his hand. He has a right to be pissed at homer and didn't deserve ppl laughing at his funeral (but is all to realistic). I feel if he knew how homer got that job as safety inspector (it's realy a bribe from burns) he wouldn't have gone so over the edge.
19:03 - "Only by relinquishing control over others can we ensure our own agency to do as we please."
That only works if EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITHOUT EXCEPTION agrees to do the same. Of course some people's version of "doing as they please" is to control others, which is why the rest of us can't afford to relinquish whatever control we have over those people.
Interesting perception but it's based purely on hypocrisies. Homer IS just really lucky and reality IS just really depressing. The thing is though that neither can exist any other way. For someone like homer to exist not only do they have to have all the qualities you mention but they have to be one of the lucky few people with those exact qualities whose life isn't destroyed by the consequence of their own mistakes. The episode is so funny because of this simple concept, the sheer unlikeliness for a Grimes to fail and for a Homer to succeed is what makes it so funny when it happens, but then again ONLY before we consider the real-life consequences to their actions. Even if you exclude the scientifically impossible events from the series there exists no actual person as lucky as Homer.
Fundamentally humans always mistake the entire world to be revolving around them in some way/shape/form and this ingrained narcissism is actually a survival tactic and defense mechanism because ironically to believe you don't believe the world revolves around you means you actually see yourself as so much more important than the average person sees themselves that you are actually even more self-centered than if you realized you were.
Why write a whole paragraph to explain that one concept though? Aren't I just trying to knock you down a peg or off some high horse you may not actually be on? Well no, but it is understandably the instinctual response to such pretentiousness. Consider this though: For >99% of us Homer is who we convince ourselves we are just to get through life and that is why we relate so much with him despite no one being anywhere even close to as lucky as him, and yet Grimes who we really are if we strip away all our delusions and see ourselves from a completely different existence. Really they are both just as incompetent but Grimes thinks too much of Homer and Homer thinks too little of Grimes. Homer tries so hard to impress Grimes in the exact same way as Grimes trying to devalue Homer. Homer actually fails Grimes in this episode but is too incompetent to care, and this is no different from how we fail ourselves and drive ourselves to madness by idolizing luck the way Grimes does. It may not seem like it but Grimes idolizes Homer, Homer is everything Grimes wishes he was. If Homer were smarter he would have helped Grimes instead of driving him insane but we need to remember that this is a show and not an actual 2 person dynamic. So if we go back to looking at both of them as if they are just 1 individual trying to understand themselves THEN we can see something very interesting.
What is so interesting is how they both have things backward about the other and their only middle-ground is that neither of them got to choose how lucky they are. They could learn from each other but they outright refuse to, and both are actually very straightforward about this. Grimes communicates this with words and by trusting the world around him with having the same intentions as himself, and this is his actual fatal flaw. Not his working hard for nothing approach or being stuck up or being unlikable or even his outlook on life, not any of the things we(Homer) perceive as his fatal flaw actually is. His fatal flaw is in his failure to accept that he only sees the value of everything around him through his eyes. Ironically this is also Homer's fatal flaw but Homer is simply lucky. They are the same person but with completely opposite lives and sadly the lucky one doesn't care enough about the other guy to save him(the lucky guy only cares about himself), BUT the unlucky guy ALSO doesn't care enough about the other guy to save him in an exact mirrored representation. The lesson is that it is foolish to mistake ourselves as superior regardless of whether we are a Homer or a Grimes. If either of them simply tried to take on the others advice then there would have actually been a chance of them surviving, but the reality is that they are just as horrible/lovable and flippant/balanced as each other.
So the joke is simply that life favors the lucky and so it's the classic tragedy is comedy routine, we feel the need to laugh about the inequality of their luckiness in life because the truth is so difficult for us to swallow and because as much as we may convince ourselves otherwise neither man actually exists in real life. When you see a Grimes or a Homer in real life you are simply perceiving yourself as the other one.
Ok good, you touch on this in the last third of the video. Maybe you are just better at putting this into words for the general populace but it seems you do understand what I explained, I do think the hypocrisies in the first half of the video were unnecessary but maybe they help get the viewer invested in the video enough to consider what you say in the end.
I think one facet you amy have missed is that it may not be possible to ever be homer simpson in a laize fair sense. I think it may be worth acknowledging that although genX was known for its apathy and distaste for unfairness and homer represents this and goes a step further by accepting unfairness by exploiting the people exploiting him, later generations must now confront the question of what happens when even the ability to live humanely is being broached and taken away. I think this is distinct from grimes specific discontent because grimes is upset that homes is rewarded while he is not. now its a matter of all wages being stifled and there being no clear way at all to get ahead grimes today would be seen as delusional for believing that he could get anywhere and homer, well homer wouldn't exist, he wouldn't be able to start a family or survive. what would a genz or millenial homer look like? maybe the answer to that is also subversive maybe a modern day homer is someone who still lives with their parents working minimum wage, maybe in a multigenerational cramped apartment with his parents and his own family, would he find pleasure in videogames? can he even support a family? the contempt for a modern day grimes would be directed towards societal structures which have been laid bare as corrupt before us but grimes just can't do much about it.
I remember a lot of adults flipping out over the simpsons to the point to where shirts at my school were not allowed, especially the one that said don't have a cow man lol Pretty tame by today's standards, Must say I've never seen the one that has Bart Simpson's head on Michael Jordan's body on a bulls T-shirt also promoting air Jordan shoes quoting can't touch this... who gets sued by who,where to start lol
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Bobby Rosario2021-04-05 20:11:07 (edited 2021-04-05 20:13:57 )
So if the simpsons was base on the creator’s life, is it safe to say that Springfield is in Oregon?
More than a bit hyperbolic there EmpLemon. Listening to you it might seem we witnessed the birth of sliced bread. I mean, the episode was good I recall watching it at the time and identified with the whole unfairness of life aspect but didn't really see Jesus in the toast or anything.
Way to get 50 minutes out of this gem of an episode. You should have titled it 'Why there hasmt been a good Simpsons episode in 20 years presented in a Higher Learneing Format stretched out over 50 minutes for max ad revenue' but then again that's pretty long.
This is my literal 4th time revisiting and re-liking this video. Youtube keeps removing my like for you, Emp. I'm just gonna keep placing the like, you work too hard to get shafted.
I never identified with Homer. When I was younger, this role was fulfilled for me by Bart and sometimes Lisa. I don't like guys like Homer in real life, btw, but I didn't care about him at all to this point. When I got older, the series just got lame.. I still watched it here and there, but from some point on Homer has gotten SO dumb, that I really hate Homer now and don't want to see the series ever again. PS: Yeah, I don't like dogs, too!
I think when you bring up manifest destiny without mentioning the displacement of native Americans it actually highlights the episode’s greatest oversight, an oversight that comes from the episode writer’s (John Swarzwelder’s) personal politics of right-libertarianism: that individuals don’t and can never represent and/or embody a nation’s collective problems, when the problem is the nation itself.
Just because they're popular and thus wealthy? Grimes hated Homer because Homer was also dangerously incompetent and got him in trouble for saving Homer's life. His misfortune angered him too much to coldly document his vs Homer's achievements and deliver that to Burns with a prospect of making more money by cutting down on accidents among other things. Unfortunately the status quo would require an amusing series of events to restore it at the end.
As I was reminiscing to the simpsons, noticing the mario back track. I thought to myself; Am I the target audience for this video? There's a lot of back track, but then I'd thought about the concept and decided, no. They couldn't be so desperate to target me through click bait and then add a back loop of nostalgia to the then there abouts 90's just to placate me. .. Or are they really that desperate for views?
Animation isn’t a genre. It’s an art form, just like film. Animation can cover genres all the way from kid friendly Saturday morning schlock to high stake old westerns, to dark and disturbing psychedelic horror trips. “Action adventure” is a genre. Animation is so much more than that.
@Deadliest Vice No I meant Art form that's why I wrote "Art Form". Medium is just a synonym for Art form and vice versa. Honestly, did you think I was going to thank you for telling ME what I meant?
I have not watch the simpsons for the best part of 2 decades. I will properly never get back into it. But if it were to stop I would but upset and outraged lol
My uncle and and mom would say that they had the best time in the x generation cuz they got cars from there dad a nice home I born from a gen x got none of that (always stalked by 5 0 no love poor mom wasn't surprised hearing about the doomer generation worst of all white guys being racist to me cuz I'm bi racial 1/2 black mom I realized by the time I was five realized people wanted me to play a certain stereotype role I wouldn't do and wasn't like for that in trouble by teachers cuz I disagree about that I have too be a Democrat cuz my grandpa was a black republican I only know how to survive
7:44 Ok so this is dumb and nit-picky, but maybe animation is associated with children because people think that it's a GENRE in which only SPECIFIC stories are told, rather than a MEDIUM through which ANY story could be told.
Is there a reason images of Bart Simpson that are not on television shows him wearing the light blue shirt instead of the reddish orange shirt seen on television?
So Matt Groening is now worth 600 million dollars, yet somehow the world is unfair and the "American Dream" is dead. Not for the creator of the Simpsons. This is true mockery in it's finest form. Groening produces this edgy, badly drawn cartoon and gets rich on a character, that if he existed in real life, would probably be under a bridge doing drugs, not working for a nuclear energy company and raising a family. Then we have this discord narrator saying the American Dream is dead, over analyzing and that you will work hard all your life and lose, that all life is unfair. Groening obviously worked hard and put some serious effort into his creation for it to be so successful, it could have failed in it's first year and died out. Groening proved the American Dream can still come true, and failure isn't inevitable. He made you live in the cartoon world, yet he worked harder than Frank Grimes.
'Spitting Image' was constantly 'referencing and parodying other media' from around 1982 onward. It was a national sensation in the UK. 'The Simpsons' was not the first to do this. I'm tempted to add 'Monty Pythons Flying Circus from 20 years earlier, but it's before my time.
"Referencing and parodying other media" isn't the same as "parodying and satirizing culture and status quo". Had Spitting Image be as successful as The Simpsons i would've gotten worldwide popularity, but evidently it did not. There's always a reason something becomes a hit, merely existing or even being "the first" isn't enough.
@Deadliest Vice I have no idea why you type that. 'Spitting Image' had huge impact. It has been identified as one of the reason Apartheid fell in South Africa. Reason? For young white South Africans, it exposed their cultural isolation and ridiculed the regime. See 'I've never met a nice South African'. You will be aware, that once a very 'hip' and current form of satire has passed it's 'moment', it dies completely and utterly? Yes? Another example would be 'That Was The Week That Was' or even 'Rowan & Martin's Laugh In'. Both before I was born. Also, when you say 'i[t] would've gotten worldwide popularity' I'd suggest you misunderstand international telecommunications media and the impact of deregulation and 'cable'. The Simpsons was a Fox product. Fox had the capacity to deliver things internationally. Spitting Image was sold independently. I'm unclear you take this into account. Next time, take a very quick peek at Wiki before you type, it could save some time. I've not counted, but it looks like it has something like 40-50 international adaptions and as for 'impact' we see...'According to Avalon Television executive producer Jon Thoday, Ronald Reagan directly contacted NBC, asking for the show to be cancelled.[18]' Cheers.
@Connor Ha. Yes. You often get the impression you are reading an undergraduate essay when the student is somewhat overstating their case. Good effort though. Lots of valid points made after the over long introduction.
If anyone is wondering what Licorice Pizza is, it was a record store in Socal back in the 80's when I as teen, it was sold to musicland I believe and not sure what happened next.
lol I was playing Smash and recognized the song from Mario Odyssey. I thought it was coming from smash on Smashville so I paused the video haha Song slaps hard though for real
USA is probably one of the most unequal country in the western world, yet the video comes to the conclusion midways that the solution is just to stop caring about equality and fairness and adopt the "laissez-faire" way of thinking that created the inequality in the first place. Or maybe did I get the reasoning wrong ? But it's such a weird take when you think about the BLM and lgbt equality movements that have stirred up the country for months now. Not criticizing the opinion, but I feel like it should have been better developed and justified, especially since it is build around the example of a tv show and not the real world.
Americans really have taken the Red Pill that change is impossible in the 1980s while Social Democracy was steamrolling Europe with Positive Change at the same time, they dont deserve better at this point
You’re a quite a bit off bud. I’m gen x. We were babies if even born during Vietnam and Nixon. We moreso witnessed the failure of Carter and the homogeneous nature of Reaganism - punctuated by the spectacle of the first gulf war and the economic malaise of the early 90s, into the optimism and future forward nature of the late 90s/early 00s.
This only "aired" cause we have worse entertainment avenues than we've had before, shame on you for capitalising on something that you'd cared about to gain click baits and interlocked into sell out position.
when all you want is to introduce a better entertainment platform than you've had before. < ? :The simpsons was beyond you, and you don''t even understand it enough to critique it, but (BTW) you sit while expecting a pay check. -(AND) I don't know you but shame through, to capitalise off an already established cartoon entertainment channel.BUT clearly, where's this going.
David Johnson2021-03-13 18:15:01 (edited 2021-03-13 18:19:37 )
To quote a conversation from criminally underrated character from a criminally underrated movie, that perfectly summarizes the downfall of the Simpsons: "Well, well, well. Devil's Night is upon us again. Figured we'd throw a little party, start a bunch of fires, make a little profit. Problem is: it's all been done before."
"That's no reason to quit!"
"Wrong. That's the best reason to quit. The only reason to quit. A man has an idea. The idea attracts others, like-minded. The idea expands. The idea becomes an institution. What was the idea? That's what's been bothering me, boys. I tell ya: when I used to think of the idea itself, it put a big ol' smile on my face. You see gentlemen, greed is for amateurs. Disorder. Chaos. Anarchy. Now that's fun!"
"What about Devil's Night?"
"What about it? I started the first fires in this goddamn city. Before I knew it, every charlatan and shitheel was imitating me. You know what they got now? Devil's Night greeting cards. Isn't that precious? The idea has become the institution, boys. Time to move on."
Dude I literally check YouTube every single day and go straight to my subscriptions praying that you have uploaded. It’s like Christmas for me when I see a new EmpLemon video
@Funky Chunky Meh Star Wars was already damaged before Disney with the two garbage prequels. At least it's getting better with things like the Mandalorian and Clone Wars season seven. (Except that garbage arc with the SJW sisters.)
@Calum Tatum I’ve known people like Homer and I’ve known people like Grimes and I don’t want to be like any of them. I think a great way to live life is to find the perfect balance between the both of them, to be happy where are you are in life but also want to strive for more.
i think before people watch homer's enemy they need to watch homer's odyssey. i married marge and maggie makes three plus homer's barbershop quartet the way we was and for context mother simpson....puts in perspective homer's character..you like him better..
I feel like if emplemon took acid he would talk his head off. like his stories would go so far off the track that you would wonder what the hell even brought up the conversation.
thats right emplemon specified that the simpsons is the longest running AMERICAN show... thats because japan has a show thats been running for way longer Sazae-san
Sazae-san's approach is really interesting, both families don't seem to age but The Simpsons decided to make episodes about modern/relevant things while Sazae-san is still stuck in the old japan times, makes one think what could the Simpsons look like nowadays if they were still set in the 90's.
It succeeded at The Simpsons' original intention of "trying to make you forget you are watching a cartoon" better than The Simpsons did. It never insulted its audience, it never bought into the neoliberal agenda, and it ended at the right time.
36:33 One piece and south park are still creative, amazing, and have everything what made it's peak special even after more than 20 years airing. The creators still have a passion for the show
Homer's job is literally to just be an idiot while his boss cuts corners in order to gain more wealth.. he is the butt of the joke and his character is not reflective of the apathy or ability for the middle class to exploit the US... he is literally a joke against the rich and powerful. Any other meaning you are drawing on it is potentially over-blown and unfounded. Grimes represents the actuality and hard work that is required to exist and Homer is the antithesis, not because he is apathetic to the financial or materialistic situation around him.. but because he is a pawn of the rich to get richer while (potentially) the rest of the world literally explodes.
I was originally planning to write a comment about how potentially disingenuous the section "Life is Unfair" is in its justification of political passivity on the grounds of the unattainability of complete equality (which is a clearly flawed argument, specially in its equation of chance misfortunes with social inequality), but the juxtaposition of the graph of SAT scores by race and the spiel about the inevitability of inequality point to a much deeper problem in the outlook driving this video which makes me extremely suspicious that any comment would ultimately fall in death ears.
@G. Neves I like to think of it as a (I’ll use the word “critique” even though it’s probably wrong) on the attitude held by people who push for governmental action on social inequality, though NOT a critique of governmental action in itself. Emp, unlike most who deny/abide by social inequality, doesn’t tend to focus on the logistics of social inequality; even when the logistics of social inequality are present in his videos, it’s framed very genuinely around the attitudes of those who favor governmental action towards social inequality rather than the governmental action itself.
Emp has his own biases, and I’d be lying if I said I took his word as gospel. But he does provide insight as to the general rationale held by (I’ll leave it as “someone who is undecided or against governmental action against social inequality”). But given his video on Jimmy Kimmel, and the fact that he once called out a YouTuber but then APOLOGIZED, strongly points me toward the authenticity of his “life is unfair” section.
I personally believe that his “life is unfair” thesis is genuine. Perhaps misguided, and his SAT graph isn’t the best example for the point he is trying to prove; I think his rationale is one that thinks social inequality issues are purely legal in cause, when they are that and many other things; particularly culturally, and systemically (whether intentional or not). But this belief (that systemic oppression/inequality is purely legal) is a commonly held, GENUINE, misconception. I speak as one who used to hold that belief myself. From what I can tell, he doesn’t think he’s justifying political passivity; he thinks political ACTION is unnecessary, something that has been “achieved” to the best of its abilities, and that continued support of political action is now counterintuitive to humans being self-sufficient. And while I agree that IF political action had a “point of finality”, where developments would not be effective and/or be counterintuitive to people being self-sustaining, that some (though CERTAINLY not all) people would probably still continue to push for political action for their own self-interest, I, unlike those under the aforementioned misconception (which again, possibly includes Emp), would NOT agree with the idea that social activism has “reached” a point where “if you’re still suffering from the issues created by social inequality you’re just not trying hard enough”
Now to write a better, more concise comment, someone who misunderstands the nature of social inequality is perfectly capable of misattributing prevalent social inequality as ‘evidence that meritocracy is conceptually flawed and/or not pragmatic’.
popularity leads to authority, authority leads to mediocrity, mediocrity leads to rebellion, rebellion will overtake the old and reestablish itself as the new popular thing, leading the an endless cycle of rinse and repeat.
I'VE HAD TO WORK HARD EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE, AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT? This...BRIEF-case and this HAIR-loss treatment: https://keeps.com/emplemon
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31 likesFact
20 likesYes
8 likesAye
3 likesFirst
4 likesI love you
2 likesHaha sellout xD
11 likesLets hope you don't get copyright claimed.
8 likesPog
1 likeAnother work of art from the emperor of lemons.
2 likes32 minutes ago what?
0 likesBRIEF HAIR LOSS CASE
1 likeMan we really came a long way from YTPs to well edited documentaries have we?
5 likesI am having an exponential crisis
2 likesWe love you Emp.
0 likesi luv u as a youtuber!
0 likes@EmpLemon Your link 404s. So I don't know if the link referrals count. Please check
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I feel you
0 likesAmazing!
0 likesI'm already on the way to baldness, but thanks for the offer. I'll stick to downward merchandise.
2 likes@MarioAltaire ur right!
0 likesThank you for consistent, quality, original and captivating content
0 likesWhy are the Sempsins Red?
1 likeThis guy has 42069 iq, because he figured out how to avoid simpsons copyright. Simply by making them green LOL.
1 likeWell I am a simp but not your son
1 likeS
Nope your punishment would be getting your video taken down by Disney.
0 likesCementing myself in the comments so I can prove to my kids that I watched the cool YouTubers.
0 likesThese videos are so great thanks emp
0 likesLisa, if you dont like your country you dont rebel against it, you just go in every day to work and do it really half-assed - thats the american way!
2 likesWait, how tall are you and Rusty Cage? That didn't look natural.
0 likesAre you the establishment too?
0 likesMORE EPISODES POGGGG
0 likesThat ad was spice. Ngl.
0 likesStill one of my favorite content creators on the platform.
link dont work, as a person who a. has panicked about there hair for year b. is broke and c. wants to support you im very bummed
0 likeslink is 404
1 likeThe link isn't working?
0 likesSo basically Frank Grimes is the Darth Maul of The Simpsons.
0 likesSounds beefy!
0 likesI’m here to put my comment here so I am remembered
0 likes"Reality is often disappointing".
0 likes- Purple Josh Berlin
I didn’t get a sub notification for this
0 likesYou had us in the first half... Best ad ever
0 likesEmperorLemon I know your based 25:29 to 25:34 have you ever considered its just inheritably in their being to be worse
0 likesI heard that in the ad at the end.... Its a shame that Pyro couldn't join
0 likesYour link is the broke tho
0 likesIf you see me at mid I’ll buy you a shot to end the complaining. Good shit though. Thanks
0 likeslol
0 likesthis episode is the only video, no, any piece of viewable content that i will not only jump at the chance to watch again, but actively search it out to watch it again
2 likesgood work bro
Funniest ad ever
0 likesWhile i am sad that You are constipated, im happy that you are at least succesfull and able to be making views/money still.
0 likesOH SHIT therealjims! I've been watching for a few years! Nice collab emp!
1 likeYou should do there will never ever be another racehorse like secretariat
0 likesHi
0 likesBRIEF HAIR
0 likesAwesome video as usual my guy. Love the choose and use of music. I was just wonder if you could do a “Never ever” video on a Formula 1 driver like you did to dale earnheart. Anyways keep up these videos man they are great.
0 likesHey man great psychoanlysis you did there. Could you plese tell me the name of the song at 24:50 ?
0 likesit's called anywhere, USA
0 likes404 not found
0 likesWhen is your next ytp
0 likesReally this episode is not that special...you can meke a video like this one for any episode of the early seasons.
0 likesthe simpsons 1989
0 likesJapan:
Devilman 1972
Hokuto No Ken 1982
Gundam 1979
Tensai Bakabon 1971
even in the grasp of conservative society, japanese can still express their frustration in anime.
USA just got their frustration expressed in movie cartoon only like fritz the cat, until 1989 the simpson breakthrough the american television.
Something ironic about him going to Evergreen College. I recomend the "Benjamin B. Boyce," YouTube channel...he did a multipart documentary in a playlist called "THE COMPLETE EVERGREEN STORY." I really recommend it!!
1 likeFrom gen x cynicism to modern day censorship and racial politics
@emplemon link is broken
0 likesokay seriously, am I in the minority here because I keep hearing people SAYING they sympthised with Grimey.
1 likeBut I always laugh hardest when Homer does something to drive him a little more insane, from eating his lunch and purposely putting the last bite back in the bag to winning the model contest, seeing Grimey tortured accidentally by Homer is hilarious to me
i see the briefcase is safe
0 likesYou got Gen X dates spectacularly wrong: when the Simpsons came out Gen Xers were around 12 and 14 when Nirvana and grunge went mainstream. Certainly no-one of them was born during Nixon's era.
0 likesP.S. Matt Groening is a boomer, NOT a Gen Xer, this may be the source of your confusion.
There should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Wolong Gong Shut it man.
0 likesi doubt that
0 likes@Wolong Gong eh
0 likestough break.................😒.....................uh............thanks for the vid
0 likesB R I N G Y T P ' S B A C K
0 likesSo theirs 30 real life springfeilds but not 1 real Quahog or Gravity Falls damn.
0 likesbaaaaaald! BAAAAAALD! BAAAAAAAAAAALD!!!!
0 likesMY EYES!!!!
@Robert Vierra there’s no Mordors either. At least not literally. Where in from in Massachusetts everyone calls Brockton Morder cause they are both filled with violent filthy locals. And both just look so dank & lifeless.
0 likesThere’s no volcano in brockton that I know of though
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0 likesError: 0x071-28621
@Gibraltar The simulation you are convinced you are experiencing is a faulty program experiencing technical difficulties. Please cancel yourself out and restart
0 likes@Ransak Reject he sorta kill Flanders wife i bet he flaunts his nice house and other things to get back at homer
0 likes@Robert Vierra he also caused 3 meltdowns & a China syndrome. At least it wasn’t homer than that allowed general krull to seize power
0 likesI thougt you were talking about us
0 likesYou worked as a 2 year old
0 likesThat's messed up
@Some guy it was the olden days when kids had to work young
0 likesSimpsons resolution... nobody works... nobody contributes... world falls apart.
0 likes"We’re going to ask you to take 3 photos of your hair (we’ll guide you through how to do it). Your doctor needs these photos to make a diagnosis and recommend your specific treatment.:
0 likes"We also need a photo of your government-issued ID card to verify your identity."
How do I get past this if it's me ordering it for a family member, do they care if it's another family member but using your own ID?
Emp, I am waiting the day you make "There will never ever be another game like GTA: Vice City"
0 likesIt's good to have a sponsor but I'm sure this causes erectile dysfunction lol
0 likes@DeadlyEric Slams door*
0 likesHomer used Dimoxinil once to regrow his hair.
0 likesAaaaand it's gone
0 likesiha ok mut ootko kattonu simpsonit sarjasta jakson himo läski homer :D siinä esiintyy koko simpsonit perhe eli myös bart simpsons homer poika fanit saavat nauraa ja naurattaahan se tietty myös vaikka homerin läski kuteet ja muut :D kannattaa kattoo nopee
0 likesYou helped me remember that profit is fundamentally worthless if you don't use it for what it is worth. And thank you for describing this episode of The Simpsons, it really is a great episode and deserves that top bunk of popularity.
0 likeswhen flanders failed always makes me cry..loved the way homer gets sad and angry despite causing some of this and jumps into action...he did benefit off it and wish for it but then he decides to fix it despite not having to cause its not really his fault...but he feels guilty because inside hes a good person and could of helped ned's business by recommending it to people who said they needed left handed items...
0 likessimpsons being aired in like most countries means it will never die...it still makes billions ..its the biggest worldwide show ever i think.....everyone knows who they are...its like pikachu in the gaming world..everyone knows what pokemon is...
0 likesBro, this was deep. This was a grade A assessment of America at-large. I would kiss you for your brilliance. Your "There will never ever" series is great, but this is on a whole different level of professional product.
0 likesΦ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxYH5CXbpYA
1 likeGreen simpsons
0 likesYes
0 likesI also like other episodes like the one in which you view a day from each character's perspective or when they teach a life lesson
0 likesThe new simpsons has more entertaining stories but the old had overall better writing and deeper message
0 likesHey emp another great video!!! I have a question. Did you watch bojack horsemen and if so what do think of it ?
0 likesto answer you we are America. not a perfect nation but a nation that is to stride to be a more perfect union. Never trust those who think they are perfect everyone has war lords.
1 likethat vsauce intro was better than some vsauce intros
0 likesYes
0 likesyes yes yes
0 likesAmazing use of music and transitions in this video!
0 likesYour question of why we like Homer is a little off. I never considered him anything but an example of what was wrong with the passive and uncritical working American. And I never liked him, only occasionally sympathised.
0 likes@Ponczos_22 Futurama is a different animal with a different audience. For the most part it lacks subtlety and many of the long running arcs are disappointing.
1 likeI would say it's ephemerally fun, but you often have to shut off the party of your brain that would enjoy the subtext in order to keep it there.
@S Orbatos Ok, but do you recommend any of Futurama seasons?
0 likesOh ok
0 likesHey Emplemon can you do a never ever episode on the slender man my this: marble hornets everymanhybrid and tribetwelve?
0 likesThe only reason
0 likesCould you do an article on final space.
0 likesHair loss matters now? Since when?
0 likesTHANK YOU FOR SAYING OREGON RIGHT!!!
0 likesDo who shot mr burns
0 likesREALLY selling shit? The way it's done makes me fucking hate what this world has become.
0 likesIt's the scott tenorman must die of simpsons
1 likeI think you should do Pink Floyd for your next never be like vid
0 likesHe wasn't modeled after William H Macy. The inspiration for Frank Grimes was D-Fens from the movie Falling Down.
0 likes26:30 SOlutiosn exist nihilist !
0 likeslol
0 likesYour video gave me the feels
0 likesThis is likely an unoriginal comment but it appears the majority didn’t learn history
0 likesNo cap
0 likesRemember when you sued to do YTP? I do. I was like 8-9 when I started watching YTP bro
0 likesislamphobic ?
0 likesWell done.
0 likesBy the way ... 2:13 "Springfield is one of the most common place names in the US". Why is everyone always so predictable on this issue - always missing the same (obvious) thing? The correct take on the issue is: "Springfield is one of the most common place names in the US ... but only in a few states is it near any place called Shelbyville, and only in one or two are both places near the state capital."
0 likes25:40 Ok but how did his cane stand up by itself?
0 likesGB h n zh 😳😵💫🤬
0 likes“Change the channel Marge.”
0 likesFinding out Matt Groening's parents are called Homer and Marge has changed me
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Also, his younger sisters are named Lisa and Maggie.
884 likesHere's the topper - Matt didn't want the whole cast to be named after his family, so he let the writing staff choose Grandpa's name. They ended up choosing Abraham, which also happened to be the name of Matt's grandfather.
1470 likes@Sven Bender that's crazy! I've been a big fan of the Simpsons since I was a kid but never looked into this sort of stuff. Thanks for sharing!
263 likes@Sven Bender and you’re named after my favourite Futurama character!
80 likesHow crazy is that! 🤓👌🏼
They must be so honored to share names with one of the most famous families in fiction! 🥰
30 likes@Thot Patrol USA diagnoses u with weetodd syndrone Maybe it's not a specifically British thing but I've only heard Brits say it myself.
2 likesI also find myself regularly using British spelling though lol.
Holy shit wtf
3 likesSo he is bart
39 likes@Ian Pitts who the hell says named
16 likes@JyTV I guess I would say "his parents' names are Homer and Marge" rather than "his parents are named Homer and Marge." But I would say "his parents named him Matt" rather than "his parents called him Matt"
15 likes@Sven Bender Heres what makes it even better: Matt Greoning had to name his son Homer after his father responded to the character named after him. Also he came up with the whole family quickly before a board meeting, deciding to name Bart not after himself because of that it probably wouldn't end out well.
13 likesA little fun fact: Matt's sister, Maggie Groening actually helped her brother write the Maggie Simpson series of books, the English versions and the Spanish versions.
11 likesWhy? It's not such a far-fetched thing for creators to give characters their family's names
1 like@X D The simpsons predicted his parents names :O
37 likesHis son's are called Abe and Homer.
4 likesI was just about to bring that up! It's adorable!
1 likePatty's there as well, but no sign of Selma.
0 likesnamed*** NOT called.
0 likes@aylo ! so I googled "named vs called" and the first result from a dictionary website is "You use called or named when you are giving the name of someone or something. Named is less common than called, and is not usually used in conversation" please get a hobby
11 likes@aylo ! Litterally not how grammar works both are right being called something is just more inclusive
3 likes@Zyxie_Rumor, Just a Geek Also, Lisa Groening is married to the creator of "Hey Arnold".
8 likes@Sven Bender N O, H E R E' S the topper....matt groenings initials can be seen in Homer's ear and hairline
2 likes@Ian Pitts A N D Americams calling quite literally EVERYTHING "awesome" is hard, I mean difficult to listen too
0 likes@E4RLIES lol I really like Fry
0 likes@Ian Pitts his mother's name is probably Margaret. She is called Marge...
0 likes@megmachine Imagine telling someone to get a hobby after googling something about grammar 😂😂
3 likes@Too Many Marys Cool story
0 likes@Tom Kerruish would that make him Matt "Bart" Groening...
1 like@E4RLIES pog
0 likesI knew that Matt Groening identified himself as Bart if you watched the show enough
1 likeFr
0 likes@Sven Bender woah
0 likesim 20 years old, this is a 35 year old show and i had never knew this bit of knowledge
0 likesWell everyone in the family is called like someone in the simpsons except for bart, he refused to call him matt, well it's pretty obvious why i guess
1 like@R3liK Matt "Bart" Groening
0 likes@Casey S To repay his dad being named as a cartoon character Greoning named his son Homer.
0 likesHis mother's maiden name was Wiggum too lol.
1 like@JyTV You know that anyone that's not in the UK says "named," stop gaslighting.
0 likesYeah, He named everyone in the simpsons family after his family members but Bart.
0 likesHis grandparents last name is wiggum 😂
0 likesSame
0 likesMan
0 likes@Sven Bender matt groening is an avaricious disgrace. He's destroyed the legacy of what once was a genius show
0 likes🤯
0 likesIts simple really - 'naming' is formal, 'called' is informal.
0 likes@Patrice AQA He created it, he's allowed to destroy it. Like Lucas and Star Wars. Oh then Disney jumped up and down on the corpse... Kind of like the Simpsons????
0 likesHow has it changed you?
0 likeswait wtf
1 likeFr I'm a new man
1 likeChange the channel Marge! 😴
0 likesVery sweet
0 likes@Tom Kerruish no he's a fusion of the three because he has barts creativity and mischief Homer's gluttony lust envy and general sinfulness and so on
1 like@Sven Bender what a "Goddammit" moment
0 likes@R3liK if you think about it, he is.
0 likesBoth are Cartoonist and I believe Matt said he was a trouble maker and had troubles at school
@Sven Bender I think did that on purpose
0 likes@JyTV …normal people.
0 likes@megmachine Called always sounded weirder to me tbh
0 likesFinding out he frequented Epstein’s plane changed me.
0 likes@Tom Kerruish so that means most of the characters in the family of The Simpsons are Matt groenings family
0 likes@Sven Bender but they still have bart
0 likesIn a way Homer and grimes are also a nice depiction of how much the economy has changed from the Gen X to the millennial generation. Both working in the same place but one being able to afford to BUY a house and a stay at home wife and kids while the other can't even afford to rent appartment for him self .
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I worked with a baby boomer when I graduated from college, at the same position and salary. He once told to me that since the 90's he had not gained any real wealth, only maintained his acquisitive power. I did not get it at the time, but 10 years later I see he was right. At that point, it would take me over 20 years to own a house and car, what the what he was able to buy in his first 5. Even so, probably I would not be able to afford maintenance.
169 likes@Just Another Doug i mean it might cost a hundred or two but thats cheap compared to a house... or a stay at home wife whit 3 kids xD
11 likesikr.
17 likesstarted watching the show for the first time ever a month or so ago now, and one of the first things i asked was "how the fuck does Homer afford all this shit?!"
The fall of the Simpsons is the epitome of “You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” In this case, it’s “you either die fighting the institution or live long enough to see yourself become the institution.”
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Nah, "Transform the medium so much that you become that which you sought to usurp."
85 likesReal Stalin hours
7 likes"I use to be with it, then they change what it was."
16 likesHow about Nietzsche's "To look into the abyss, is to have the abyss look back into you....," and "To hunt monsters is to become a monster..."
20 likesParaphrased from my memory.
@Bollibompa permission to steal this quote. It’s much more concise
3 likesSame thing happened to south park and family guy
2 likesIt's just to easy to make fun of them now.
0 likesPlus they want those clebs to hope to get views from idk who
It really sucks the Simpsons went on this path.
5 likes@christian baker nah, south park has tegridy.
3 likes@Felipe Jaquez "it'll happen to you"
1 likeJust like Triple H!
1 likeIf you can't beat 'em, join 'em
0 likesThis is probably written somewhere in the Art of War by Simpson Tzu
0 likesdisney too
2 likes“The Simpsons made everyone stop to adjust their tv sets, but the picture within was never broken. Everything else around it was.” One of the most thought provoking quotes I have heard in a very long time.
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He had me at "What was once the epitome of media counter-culture is now owned by the epitome of the media establishment. In all honesty The Simpsons was never designed to survive until the 21st century. The big media conglomerates just keep it around as a ceremonial token to evoke nostalgia for better times. At this point Homer Simpson has been relegated to a figurehead akin to the like of Mickey Mouse and the Queen of England. "
124 likespick up a book every now and then
15 likes@Michael Fitzpatrick nah, video essays about the yellow people are more interesting to me
85 likes@Michael Fitzpatrick I don't even know what that comment is meant to infer or evoke, or even mean? Books were the new parchments. As are videos the new books. Times change. There's nothing wrong with taking a philosophical look at a show that quite literally shaped minds and created personalities and traits in people based on a unique appreciation of comedy. A lot of people are who they are today, because of this show.
53 likes@Don S Not wading into that debate but the quote is objectively corny and about as deep as a puddle. no disrespect to the jeffman but if this is as good as it gets for him then he's missing out and might benefit from broadening his horizons
13 likes@Don S PS i think if youtube is the new anything it's the new radio
6 likes@Michael Fitzpatrick At what point in his quote do you assume he doesn't read books? We're talking about an animated cartoon show. Not Sun Tsu.
34 likes@Don S don do you really expect me to do basic reading comprehension for you? is this why you love youtube video essays so much?
2 likes@Michael Fitzpatrick No i'm just confused by your idiocy.
28 likes@Don S it's his projection of his own political ideologies that is the problem in this analysis....
20 likes@schiggy2319 man where exactly did I say there was anything wrong with preferring videos over books? no they cannot convey the same things, though I would never suggest writing a book about why this particular episode of the simpsons is good.
1 like@Michael Fitzpatrick who hurt you? You sound very cynical and unhappy with your life. You must be fun at parties.
20 likes@Mitch Zurbrigg I'm very fun at parties - I'm going to one tonight. It's always a good time. I'm still right about TheJeffMan being cringe
1 like@Michael Fitzpatrick You've made a claim, I am still waiting for you to present an argument. Because until you present an argument your claim is worth less than the oxygen you breathed to supply your body the life force needed to type it.
14 likes@Auron Downey Jr. who are you lol
4 likes@Auron Downey Jr. what the hell are you talking about lmfao
0 likesMan, people really need to stop using the word “objectively” so haphazardly.
2 likes@Michael Fitzpatrick Already have. Read The Outsiders, The Giver, To Kill a Mockingbird, Halo Lore Books, I think I've earned the grounds to watch videos, and so have they.
2 likes@Evan Larson now this is how a real genius sounds like
1 like@Michael Fitzpatrick FOR REAL
1 like@Auron Downey Jr. Damn, chill.
0 likesYour interpretation of the “Bowling Alley” moment is honestly amazing and makes that small moment so much more impactful to me. Homer WOULD be impressed by that because that’s the dream he gave up for the good of his family.
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Yeah my heart just broke :(
51 likeshe would also be impressed by it for the sake of bowling, just because he’s homer
70 likes24:00 in case anyone needs it!
28 likesRIGHT?! Such a fantastic connection!
9 likesYup that's what he said in the video lol
2 likesimo the “above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley“ line is in the running for the best joke of the show, but then to have homer react in such a simple, character-perfect way, makes it all the better
30 likes@Seven bowling is the laziest sport and you can also eat and drink beers so of course its an homer thing
5 likesYeah. Homer's life, unlike what Frank thinks, isn't perfect. And Homer wishes he had some of the things that Frank has.
9 likesduh
1 likebut that's obviously not the writer's intention. Homer might be impressed, but any sensible person knows that the noise from something like that would make it a terrible place to live. The line reflects Homer's lack of insight into his life, nice as Homer might be about everything.
1 likeThe episode Bart gets an F had a heavy impact on me as a kid, especially growing up with ADHD.
703 likesThe part at the end where he just breaks down crying at his desk saying "You dont understand, I really tried this time! I really tried!" Made me cry the first time I saw it. I related so freaking hard because it just took me back to the bad days at my desk.
Days where I didn't just draw in reading class, but actually tried to read like I was supposed to. Reading, and rereading a paragraph over and over but no matter what I did no matter how hard I tried every time I started a new sentence, I couldn't remember the last one so I had to start over, again. And again. And again.
I'd look around and nobody else was having this problem and I was the only one and it made me so frustrated and angry because I knew I was smart, I chose this book, I'm so smart I know what all the words mean! I can read so well but I don't understand why I can't do this right now!! and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't do it.
And in that episode where Bart was going through the same thing I went through just hit me so hard. I don't think there's a single episode, especially not past season 7, that ever hit me that hard again.
That, and the teacher was still a teacher, she wasn't as cartoonishly disillusioned as she became in later seasons. She actually patted him on the back and comforted a crying child who was struggling to learn in her class. That added another layer of realism to it. Where the teacher is a human being that cares, but doesn't necessarily know how to help and doesn't have the energy to go out of her way to get him the resources he actually needs.
His parents don't know what ADHD is and don't know how to help him. All of these aspects contributed to one of the most perfect scenes in the Simpsons, in my opinion.
At the end of the episode, the situation may have been resolved but the main issue that made it hard for him to do it in the first place, wasn't resolved. There was no wave of the magic wand and his studying issue were fixed. It's something you learn how to live with.
There's more resources now, but back then in the early 2000s this is were ADHD kids were stuck. In that state of not knowing why. Even if you're lucky and get medication like I did, nobody ever taught me how my disorder effected my day to day life. Because that's all I'd ever known, I thought it was normal.
Nobody taught me anything about the day to day things you have to do to cope with your ADHD and function in a way that can keep up with everyone else. I thought I just took my meds, and it made my ADHD go away. So a lot of issues that effected me to my core and my self esteem, could have been so much less painful if I had known then what I do now. But I didn't know then, and neither did Bart.
At the end of the episode, even if it didn't give me answers or solutions, at the very least, it made me feel like I wasn't alone. And I respect the hell out of it for that.
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Dude, you're something, that episode about Bart also made me tear up. Although I didn't like how they undermined the gravity of that scene with a lame joke in the end. Anyway, thanks for sharing this.
36 likesIf i watched the simpsons i probably would have reacted the same, my goal like any person with ADHD is just to cope with it, learn to pick up habits that let me be productive in spite of it. Holy fuck are the days where i get everything i set out to do done so rewarding, the burst of dopamine is something so nice. (for those who dont know ADHD interrupts normal dopamine reward path ways, which often leads to kids with it seeking easy dopamine and thus higher obesity rates as sugary food is free dopamine)
11 likesSame same same. And I grew up in a time where my dad beat the adhd out of me. 😩😩
4 likes@TootieO My hero I’m so sorry that happened man. You deserved better.
4 likesFeel for you. Didn't finish the essay of a comment you made (Can't imagine anyone with ADHD could read it, ironically) but I empathize.
7 likesI'm sorry and I get that this is kinda rude sounding, but... can you please make this spaced out into paragraphs? My brain can't comprehend walls of text very well
5 likes@Jackwastakenx2 sure, easy peasy
6 likes@ProjectPhantomEden413 thanks!
7 likesEdit: I have now read it (since My brain could focus on one bit at a time) and I relate hard with the AD-HD Stuff
That episode hit me hard too, if you tried or didn't try it seemed like the outcome was the same and the backlash for not doing the thing made life a living hell
3 likes@winlars Exactly! Expecially when they'd get mad if I had to ask them to repeat what they said multiple times. That was the worst! I if I didn't catch it the second time, I just didn't get to learn that part that day.
1 likeAnd there are people who think of ADHD as a blessing.
0 likes@Aldia, Scholar of the first sin I think that's a fair perspective. Being neuroatypical is something that makes me unique and it makes me think differently and have a different perspective on things. It doesn't mean it doesn't cause a lot of stress and makes day to day functioning more difficult. But despite it all, if I had the option to be neurotypical, I still think I'd prefer myself as I am. Cause I like who I am, even if it can be hard sometimes.
2 likes@ProjectPhantomEden413
1 likeA deaf person will never be able to experience music the same way i do, that is not the same as having some kind of unique personality, they lack something fundamental that almost all people have.
You are different from that obviously but similar in the way that you will never be able to enjoy certain things that i and most people enjoy and it's not truly YOUR choice to not enjoy these things, you were born in a way that stops you from enjoying they, you didn't had the chance.
This is definitely a offensive opinion to these groups, you can go ahead and get pissed with me if you desire but i think people should stop with this modern propaganda that disabilities are not a problem.
With future advancements in transhumanism and other scientific areas we may end up finding a cure to those things but the problem is that by then, almost everyone will not want to be cured.
Speaking as an ADHD teen, that is one one of the most resonant things I have ever read in my life.
3 likesAdhd freaking sucks. No matter how hard you try, things somehow don’t work out.
1 likeI might flunk out of college, but there’s always hope. I’m lucky enough to have very supportive and forgiving parents.
I can relate to this having ADHD myself, aswell as being frustrated with Math.
0 likesit's *affected - but damn, that was one hell of a comment
1 like@Jackwastakenx2 the best suggestion ever on YouTube ever
0 likes@MagicalBread don't hope, have faith and just do it. Hoping is procrastinating. Believing is doing.
0 likesThe episode where Lisa rips up Burns’ check for a million dollars, because it was for what she believed in, was a pretty hard hitting episode.
0 likesThe amazing thing about The Simpsons is that even if it has 30 years of garbage, that 10 years of high quality will be what most remember for coming generations.
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It's a shame it couldn't end in it's golden age, and instead lived to become a shell of what it was.
39 likes@Plaha Kumar 1998 Sure, but that doesn't mean you can't appreciate it for what it *was*. In my opinion, people too easily let sequels, remakes, or far-too-long runtimes ruin their enjoyment of what they loved originally.
6 likes@Plaha Kumar 1998 An empty hollow shell is what the Simpsons are now.
2 likesEven the movie sucked and that was very long ago.
They should have ended before the movie.
@Plaha Kumar 1998 it would have been rebooted by now, and even worse.
1 like@Betorockmetal i liked the film, but i couldn't believe they kept the show going afterwards
4 likesPlaha Kumar 1998 it actually doesn’t matter because it’s just gotten more and more popular and people can always go back
0 likes30 years of garbage means every episode 1991 or after (because of the comment’s age) would suck lmao
3 likesI think the thing with Grimes that makes him so relatable is something a bit closer to our Id: it isn't the lack of fairness, we know the world isn't fair and things happen for no reason, it's the lack of JUSTICE in Grimes' life that we ultimately relate to. It's one thing to luck into an acting career, or have wealthy parents who can fund your future success (whether you still have to work for it or not,) but Americans are told and can objectively see that hard work and persistence pays off. Grimes worked his tail off to gain the American Dream, and despite doing everything he's "supposed" to do, he never got. I don't think Grimes would be jealous of Homer, or even as angry at his laziness if he had actually achieved ANYTHING that he had worked towards. A decent home or a loving family or SOMETHING. But he got screwed hard despite all his efforts. Getting stuck in the rain trying to chase your dog is something that we can get over. Getting soaked every day despite doing everything you can to stay dry for your entire adult life? Can't blame the guy for being bitter..
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Being bitter won't get you anywhere though
4 likes@Fabian Lopez that's a nice sentiment. People don't really choose to be bitter. It's a slow descent that most people acknowledge is an issue and try to correct/get past.
47 likesIf things work out, great. Dark period of your life. Good conversation material for close friends.
If they don't, it just heaps. It's a lot like depression in that way. People get so stuck that they become "comfortable" in their despair: it's their default at this point, and it will take a cosmic re-correction to pull a person out of that spiral. The cure for this kind of bitterness and despair is a monumental turn of good luck or things to go "like they should" for a while to restore hope.
@adam marano I know this reply was for someone else but, the thing you said about breaking out of depression with a long period of luck made me remember how I experienced the same thing. And now I’m struggling with rough times and things feel hopeless again but what if, just what if I was able to convince myself things were actually going super great for a while? Maybe I’d stop being stuck in the “comfort” in the cycle of depression as you stated earlier. I also want to convince someone else of the same thing. This comment opened my eyes once again so thank you!! I know it’ll be hard but if I see this period of good luck going forward, I’ll be sure not to miss it
16 likes@Fabian Lopez On the contrary, vitriol is a perfectly suitable replacement for passion.
1 like@New Decade emp made a very nice point having a nice balance the reason why homer ssucsesseds is because he's a genuinely nice guy throughout his rough exterior he has a heart
2 likesI don't know if anyone's touched on this but, one thing that truly makes this episode great is how it doesn't make Homer the cause of Grimes' undoing. Everything Grimes does after Homer takes his advice to heart is entirely HIS doing. He's the one who can't accept Homer's good-hearted attempt, he's the one trying to make Homer look stupid in front of people who really don't care, He's the one who has an extreme meltdown and he's the one who touched those high voltage chords. Grimes' bitterness and refusal to accept change is what ultimately brings his downfall.
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haven't seen it in a while, but doesn't homer even try to STOP him from touching the cables?
30 likes@iluvugoldenblue
38 likesHomer doesn’t try to stop him from grabbing the cables, but he does ask him if he’s ok during his breakdown
Exactly. Grimes thinks Homer's his worst enemy but in reality it's himself.
22 likesWhen the video is almost twice as long as the episode itself
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Silence, checkmark
296 likesU again?
14 likeswhy draem is master mind
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14 likesThank you@speedycube64, very cool.
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2 likes@speedycube64 where is your babysitter lil man
16 likes@Thee Oddments When Your Babysitter Is... "Among Us"???!?!?
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0 likes@Mr. Fancypants why do you hate checkmarks? Where did they touch you?
5 likes@name they always come in leaving allmost all the time these empty unrelated comments to the video that aren't even funny or remotely usefull.
46 likesThen they get upvotes from sheep fans just because they watch them and leave these awfull stupid reply's like: HuH? WhaT ArE YoU DoIng HeRE? As if it is not normal that other people watch video's to.
And they don't even reply to anything said under they'r comment making it double useless as it shows they simply don't care.
ThAt's WheRe ThEY T0uCH Me.
you minecraft youtubers are in every comment section
0 likesI like at 3:32 when Emp used meet the Sniper music :p
2 likes@Mr. Fancypants calm down son its just a comment
9 likes@speedycube64 sus 😳!!1!!1
2 likes@speedycube64 Wait I recognise your name, you made that anime betrayal video didnt you?
0 likesIf people discuss a line of dialogue, should they use less time than said line?
3 likes@speedycube64 do an rsg speedrun where you have to build amogus out of wool that would be funny I think
2 likes@Ford Prefect THIS SO MUCH THIS
1 likeYou didn’t watch it did you
1 like@Nebojša Žbidelj calm down son its just a comment
3 likesJesus... I didn't even notice that, thank you.
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
1 likeMr. Fancypants I actually do read the replies to my comments and reply to them, but usually when I get notifications. Just thought it was an interesting thing to point out, wasn’t trying to be funny or useful. Have been watching EmpLemon’s videos for years, just don’t comment on them often
6 likesPenguin gang
0 likesIt's about as long if you set playback to 2x.
0 likesit takes longer to analyze the episode than to watch it. its kinda like instant reply in sports. each play takes about 3 seconds. but with slow motion, different angles and conflicting opinions it takes 5 minutes to analyze it.
2 likeshere's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
0 likeshe's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
Zyphon?
0 likesFirst time?
0 likesHow many years have people been talking about WW2? :P
0 likeslooks like someones been binging
0 likes@J Radke 82
0 likesLongspiral Good
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants checkmarks don't always have the best comments quit giving them attention
0 likes@Loopy Loon ... i disagree. lisa simpson IS the conscience of the family AND the town.
0 likesif you think people who expose the flaws and corruption in society as "little know it alls" you have a serious problem accepting reality. if you think intelligence is a form of self-righteousness your problem is accepting whatever lies the "authority" tells you.
lisa's insecurity comes from the fact that she's right, keeps being proven right but her wisdom is routinely ignored and marginalized.
its the old "kill-the-messenger" syndrome that inflicts people whenever their inaccurate and skewed world view is challenged and corrected.
if humanity could be divided into the idiosyncrasies of the various characters of that tv show. I AM DEFINITELY A "LISA" and damned proud of it.
@c. j. macq I beg to differ, Lisa is only the conscience of the show in the sense that the show itself won't acknowledge her own hypocrisy.
1 likeIn one episode, Lisa made a present for Homer's birthday & got upset when Homer didn't appreciate her gift, she is treated as justified in this attitude even after she projects her frustration with Homer onto Martin, Skinner, & men as a whole, the onus is placed on Homer to make amends, he is held responsible for her outburst, & yet she got upset that a relatively average middle aged man didn't appreciate a book filled with drawings of unicorns. Now consider that in a previous episode, Homer got Lisa birthday gifts that included a tape demonstrating his ignorance of her personality & a whole chicken, she got upset that Homer's gifts weren't all that thoughtful & Homer hired a private detective in an effort to learn what interests Lisa so he can make amends. In both episodes, the roles are reversed, & yet Lisa is in the right in both instances, because she is Lisa.
There are several episodes where Bart finds a calling, in one he takes up drumming & is shown to be good enough to play professionally, Lisa is upset because Bart "stole" jazz from her, she can't be happy for Bart's success, & when Bart is injured because she hid a tiger in the attic, & can no longer play, he gives up on reconstructive surgery to regain his lost talent for the sake of appeasing Lisa's jealousy, in another episode Bart becomes a hall monitor & gains the approval of his family & school, & gives it up for the sake of protecting Lisa when she did something wrong, both these instances are treated as heartwarming, & not indicators of the toxic relationship between the two that sees Bart fall for Lisa's sake, but when Lisa copies Bart's mannerisms for the sake of making friends during the family's stay in Flanders' summer house & Bart responds by pointing out her duplicity, he's treated as being in the wrong & she is forgiven, because she is Lisa.
In many episodes she's shown to be down right manipulative, taking advantage of Bart developing an attachment to a cow to push vegetarianism, or preying on Todd's crisis of faith to proselytize for Buddha, yet these underhanded tactics are played for laughs when in the episode in which she converted to Buddhism, her family trying to get her to celebrate Christmas is treated seriously by her & is only resolved when the guest star tells her she can have both her Christmas presents & Buddha's preaching of moderation, because she is Lisa.
Lisa must be preserved & can not be allowed to demonstrate fault because she is not meant to be a relatable character, only a mouthpiece, she is right in the context of her setting because the setting was written by people who hold her positions, she is always right, because she is Lisa.
@c. j. macq I could go on, you know. Remember the episode where Lisa thinks Maggie is smarter than her? Yeah, Lisa tries to sabotage her & runs away, but instead of actually learning some humility, she's responsible for resolving the danger her family finds itself in trying to find her & is ultimately proven to have been responsible for Maggie's success in the beginning, because she is Lisa.
0 likesOr maybe we could consider the episode where Lisa's sad because a teacher won't let her play the music she wants to play on the time he gets paid to teach children the fundamentals, & Lisa is treated as being in the right for wanting to do what she wants to do regardless of the setting, because she is Lisa.
Or perhaps we might think about the episode where the family celebrates Bart getting an A at a restaurant & all Lisa can think about is how her parents, who already are shown to favor her, don't shower her with even more praise for always getting A's, it doesn't occur to her how her parents might want to encourage the child who has always struggled to succeed, but alas, the parents praise is portrayed as overblown for the sake of making Lisa seem justified, because she is Lisa.
@Ike Arashiyama no it’s not it’s a rant
0 likesThe reason why the video is almost twice as long is because there’s pointless information explaining what the Simpsons is and how it got started when It could have just start at what grimes and homer could or is symbolized
2 likes@Mario gaming Mario0318 He had to give you the context around the episode in order to understand its significance to the show as a whole.
1 like@Loopy Loon so how the show was created and matt groening’s life story is important information in homer’s enemy and why there won’t be an episode like it
1 like@Mario gaming Mario0318 Yes
0 likes@Loopy Loon ok tell me what’s important about knowing how the show was created and knowing matt groening’s life that has something directly to do with homer’s enemy that we already didn’t know
0 likes@Mario gaming Mario0318 Matt Groening's upbringing directly influenced his creations, as is the case for most artists, Emp brought up his intentions for the show's characters in the show's inception in order to contrast the show's initial depiction of the characters with how they had evolved leading up to Homer's Enemy.
1 like@Loopy Loon alright You’ve proven me wrong but could he have shortened it in anyway
0 likes@Mario gaming Mario0318 no
1 like@Loopy Loon ok
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0 likes@Mr. Fancypants no this checkmark is good
0 likes@Mario gaming Mario0318 did... did you even read my qutoe? I didnt even critique the video lol
0 likes@Duro Buro I am bad at reading I only looked at the first and last part I blame my teachers for teaching me how to skim through writing
0 likes@Mario gaming Mario0318 lol
1 like@name touched him in his box.
0 likesThe Simpsons achieve the american dream as Homer geting paid for nothing, they are geting money for a not that good seasons, and as it was said here, THEY ARE HEROS for being able to be release bad episodes and still get a ton of money, life isn't fair but as FOX we have to take advantage of the stablishmemnt, some of us like the simpsons now should stop being hard working like Frank Grimes and become more like Homer.
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants I'm with you, I don't mind checkmark comments if they're funny. But the problem is 90% of them aren't funny or original and they are automatically promoted to the top of comments so they get more likes and hide the better comments. Plus most of them just spam stuff for promotion.
2 likesFor a person that used to feel like Frank Grimes and now feels like Homer, I found this EXTREMELY enlightening, thank you!
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How did you end up feeling like that?
2 likesInteresting. Care to expand?
0 likesI went into this expecting a basic Simpsons analysis. I walked out with a much higher appreciation for an episode I already loved and a better sense of self-worth and understanding about myself. Great work.
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1 like@TheTopo8798 P
0 likesIts understable why alot of us are like Grimes especially when you see a straight up child bearly out elementary making more money then you could in 10 years
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Exactly, I simply cannot bair the idea
8 likes@tsuki this attempt at a sense of justice is a cop out. The justification of suffering feels very religious dogma. Growing and "learning" from suffering means nothing to an ordinary person. By that logic, then those starving kids in impoverished villages in africa would have grown and achieved enlightenment. They didn't.
7 likes@Pipsqueack Tommyinnit is 17 and probably has more money right now than you or me will ever make, time to end it all ;))
0 likesThe Simpson could still be a great show if they had keep true to themselves instead of cannibalising their own humor. If the show had depicted the Simpsons getting old and had no shame to mock todays bullshit I really think they could be a great show even today. What is really lost is the boldness of the show nowadays no one would dare to mock the real nonsense and to point to how the systemic problems the Simpsons pointed during the 90s had gone out of control today. Boldness and truthfulness that's why the Simpsons are dead today.
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The show could still be a great show if it ENDED shortly after this episode.
1 like"The Simpsons was never designed to survive the 21st century"
4139 likesBecause every great story has an ending and The Simpsons missed theirs
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Like the Walking Dead
66 likesThe 21st? As in surviving to 2100?
17 likes@Bollibompa The 2000s are the 21st century man…
285 likes@HeyIts YaBoi Sad thing is, I can’t tell if the dude was joking or serious lmao.
157 likes@InformerMaz his name is that of a swedish kids channel. He is probably joking.
7 likes@InformerMaz definetly serious
12 likesMeh, The Simpsons was never a show where any real storylines progressed or time elapsed. Characters and character traits would be developed but nothing really ever changed. There was never a need for a formal ending to tie it all together.
32 likesThe Simpsons kind of forgot to End
7 likesThe Movie would have be a great end
20 likesIn a way Homer's enemy was the show's ending, The Simpsons spent nearly a decade spoofing and deconstructing sitcoms, American culture, and the television industry in and of itself, so much so that for it's final hoorah the Simpsons deconstructed itself, like emplemon talks about in the video. the episode also mentions multiple episodes from the past, like Homer going into space, and meeting President Ford, and includes a wide variety of characters. Had this been the ending of the show it would've been a really perfect one actually.
62 likesAnd could've had it. When Homer went to Coma in "So It’s Come To This: A Simpsons Clip Show" episode. Here everything could've ended happily.
2 likes@HeyIts YaBoi guys, they're right. The 21st century goes from 2001 to 2100 lmao.
2 likes*fixed pronouns.
I read somewhere that the writers were anticipating the show to end around season 10
2 likesAnd yet it is still more interesting then Family Guy nowadays. Low bar, but still
1 like@Blidea we all know this. And lmfao fixed pronouns 😂😂😂😂
1 like@Cole Marriott k lol
0 likesBecause it used to be a parody of mainstream and then it became part of the mainstream. It lost its edge, and thus it lost its value.
9 likes@InformerMaz people forget that 0-100 was the first century. some people go from 100-200 when counting because of that. including me sometimes. it's a fair mistake imho
0 likesAt this point I want to see the series continue because at this point, if it got any worse it wouldent matter, the shows about 20 seasons past its prime so why stop now, I want to see that big 50 season marker
0 likesOddly enough, the show aired the perfect ending: season 11's "Behind the Laughter." The quality of the show had significantly dipped, but not so badly that it had reached zombie status (at least I don't think so). Having this meta look at the history of the show treating the characters as actors is really the best way to end a show like this. It's even sadder to realize that was OVER TWENTY YEARS AGO!
1 likethey didn't miss, money pulled, forced them away from an ending and now they are zombies, corpses shambling for the next buck for the corporate master
1 like@NoMercyForMayhem When they announced the movie I was hoping that would be when they ended it.
2 likesBut you have to love the fact that they fulfilled the gag Bart said - they played a part of it - Bart: Dad, why are the endig the Cosby Series? Dad: Because they want to go out on top. Bart: To hell wit that. If I had a series, I'd milk it for all its worth. And they did.
2 likesif the simpsons had ended it would be considered the best in its medium.
0 likes@HeyIts YaBoi I've always thought that was stupid. I mean it makes sense but it's confusing.
0 likesi grew up with the simpsons but i still enjoy the new episodes.
0 likesIt could have gone out as one the greats and we’d be thrilled if another movie was announced
0 likesIt was days of future past
0 likesAt some point any show will turn terrible and its a writers duty to end it before that.
1 like@Bollibompa lets go big brain
0 likes@life's *meaning*
0 likesWhat?
@bowltm
0 likesI made no mistake, the OP did. They should've wrote "Survive the 20th" or "Survive to the 21st".
I never knew "Homer's Enemy" was rated so highly. That might explain the move to make that version of Homer the basis for his normal character. Of course, that ignores the fact Homer's flaws are exaggerated for the sake of the story, so they work in that context, but too many people don't realize that fact.
33 likes3:16 Huh. I never knew Evergreen Terrace had any significance. That's pretty neat.
10:12 It should be noted that while Groening, Brooks, and Simon were officially the showrunners of season 2, Al Jean and Mike Reiss were given more control as the season went on, being the unofficial showrunners for at least a handful of episodes.
It's easy to underestimate how different the Simpsons was in tone to other shows at the time. Even Married... with Children, which also was pretty over-the-top, stuck mostly to unironic low-brow humor, and seemed almost reactionary compared to the Simpsons' subversive edge. I remember some of my friend's parents not letting us watch it in their homes, and we were teenagers at the time, not unsupervised toddlers.
4 likesBut this episode in particular kind of shocked me, especially the ending. The Simpsons didn't usually end on such a cynical note, and never quite went that dark before. Today it would be completely normal programming, but I was honestly taken aback the first time I saw it. Still one of my favs though!
I’m about 26 minutes in and I am blown away by this analysis. I usually skipped past rewatching this episode of the show and didn’t think too deeply about it. But…wow. This idea/obsession I’ve had from time to time regarding “fairness” and effort leading to reward I think has been something truly holding me back. Or at least keeping me in a negative headspace. Never thought this episode would cause me to get introspective! Such a fantastic video! Can’t wait to watch the rest.
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Ye me too 😎
1 likeMy family and I loved this episode. Maybe it was due to the fact that we are south americans, we are living in a place that is more Springfield that the Simpsons' Springfield. Most of us have seen people like Frank Grimes become bitter, resentful or even mad. At least here in Paraguay, one can't live without being at least a bit like Homer. I am not saying that we are all incompetent, lazy and stupid like him, but that we sometimes have to accept that the world (especially our countries) is unfair and, above all, we have to care for our family and our beloved ones. It is that attitude that helps us to build homes just as warm and united as the ones in the sitcoms that the Simpsons originally parodied.
15 likesThe line in Homer's Enemy that always hit me the hardest was "Frank Grimes, or 'Grimey' as he liked to be called..." A final insult, to be diametrically misrepresented in death. As someone who is frequently misunderstood in life, that line hurts my soul.
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Change the Channel, Marge
90 likesMy favorite is when Frank Grimes says "Oh, I'm better than okay. I'm Homer Simpson!" and then Homer says "Ha! You Wish!".
152 likesHe can see that this man is having a horrible mental breakdown, but he is STILL extremely rude and casual.
The whole episode made me uncomfortably angry, but that's how I know it's brilliant.
67 likes@PatchCornAdams723 Thing is, he probably didn't see him having a breakdown. Same way he didn't see that Grimes didn't like him and was annoyed by him. He probably thought that Grimes was just being Grimes, maybe making a joke he couldn't understand.
143 likesI, too, am not like other girls.
9 likes@O Kay What it says to me is that his entire impression of Grimes was delivered to him by Homer. :(
12 likesFully onboard on this. I hate funerals for that reason, they're usually a farce. People who barely knew you pretending they know your thoughts.
40 likes@SaltpeterTaffy that's pretty sad, Homer was the only guy that cared about him in the end and he still ruined his funeral.
20 likesAt least they bothered to even give him a funeral lul.
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5 likes@Or Grimey, as he liked to be called short Homer scream
2 likesI mean, short Homer scream-LLO!
I've always wondered if this was referencing The Unbearable Lightness of Being, in which lifelong atheist Tomas is buried under the headstone 'he wanted the Kingdom of Heaven on earth' by his estranged, Christian son.
6 likes@Mileta Rien Believe it or not, that actually happened to the father of a friend of mine. Despite that he was an atheist, in his funeral he was buried under a christian cross, while his son was crying and begging for they to remove it..
6 likesSounded like a term of endearment to me, that someone would give him a nickname is usually thought of as a sign of acceptance.
0 likes@HeroSword P Even if it was, it's a fact that Grimes did not like being called Grimey.
2 likesIt's the cruellest moment of an already cruel episode. Any respect for Grimes in death is unfairly taken away from him by the people he hated in life. It's so delightfully dark.
3 likes@O Kay JUST LIKE SPONGEBOB AND SQUIDWARD
0 likesI used to be a Frank Grimes, working hard every day until one day I realised that I get paid the same shitty wage as people who do the bare minimum with no chance of raises and no recognition for my effort. So I embraced the Homer lifestyle.
199 likesStarted pulling night shifts, letting things slide, putting in the bare minimum I needed to keep things moving.
And you know what?
I'm happier now.
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3 months late but i feel this so incredibly hard. The boss pays me too little for me to put in more than the bare minimum...and i am VERY creative at shaving down what that bare minimum entails
25 likesNothing surprising there. People who do the bare minimum are usually happy. Your excuse is that you used to work hard (doubt it as people who really make an effort don't change because others don't) so you justify being lazy. Letting things slide is never acceptable for pilots or doctors or engineers. But you're just perpetuating the cycle and complaining that people are just like you.
4 likes@internalhabaneros no but its a good place to start improving things. Grimes never took a break.
3 likes@internalhabaneros he's not a... pilot, bro, he's a dairy queen worker.
1 like@internalhabaneros I’ve seen some pretty shady doctors. Seems like the nurses do more of the work tbh
0 likes@internalhabaneros hahaha there are a lot of "doctors" that perform half-ass procedures, engineers that ive met who dont know a thing they are doing, and pilots that mess up. Oh and im an Engineer as well. Put in the bare minimum and living the best life.
0 likesI feel like I’ve always seen grimes in a bit of a different light. I never connected with homer anywhere near the level that is implied in this video, and Grimes felt more relatable in his ideals (being rewarded for actual work). I never felt like either of them were an antagonist tho, more like Homer was a symptom spawned by the antagonist, and grimes fails to realise who he’s actually supposed to be fighting.
83 likesBeing upset at a symptom of a greater wrong is understandable and even relatable, but unless you try to combat the source, it’s not helpful. Grime’s downfall is that he has a reason to rebel against the system, which to me felt like another commentary on modern day america
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Homer is both a cause and a symptom. It is like with the "war on drugs". You can target dealers, but customers will ensure there are always more dealers. You can target customers, but dealers will always try to find ways to make new customers. Some businesses take advantage of their employees, and employees conform to that. Other businesses are unwilling to trust or reward their employees because there are so many slackers out there.
10 likesAlso, separate from all that, I think one who sees the beauty in taking pride in one's character, and living a life that might be likened to a work of art or a finally crafted machine... such cannot feel anything but disgust when faced by those that aspire to nothing higher than a bag of cheetos. And worse if the world heaps praise and reward on the latter. It is all at once an affront to beauty, an unfair reward, and a rejection by society.
frank grimes...also showcased the failure of going blindly over looking at the bigger picture, the american dream isn't just about doing your best BUT also taking opportunities, he could have easely learned how homer does to live such a good life, become friend with him and finally get out of his poor situation but instead, he let himself be consumed by envy and let it destroy him
4 likesI think an all time great Simpsons episode is "Homer the Heretic," an episode that points out the hypocrisy of religion in America, but it does so in such a way that it doesn't shove the answer down the throat of the audience, instead leaving it to the audience to decide what the right way to go should be. Yes, forcing someone to practice a religion is wrong, but equally if they want to practice a religion, there's nothing wrong with them dojng so, within reason
49 likesI feel like a lot of people see Grimes as being “right” in this episode. But once you realize he too is wrong, the blame is not on Homer but on the systems that created both their situations, that’s when you get it.
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The episode was written by a Libretarian that probably intended it to be played completely straight lmao.
59 likes@Dynamite Grizzly I mean, I didn’t mean to say that the episode necessarily intended Grimes to be in the wrong. I don’t know the creators’ intentions. My comment is more about interpretation than intention.
136 likes@Garfield And he'd be wrong for doing so. It's like asking why fast food workers think they deserve 15$ while EMTs barely make more instead of asking why EMTs are making that little to begin with.
167 likes@Garfield That’s possible. Under that interpretation, I’d actually be more inclined to think even less of Grimes, being that his anger is not only misguided, it’s downright silly. If he falsely blamed Homer for his issues, it’d make sense that he’s taking it out ON Homer. But if he doesn’t, him being so angry at Homer all the time is just kinda mean.
37 likesRenegade Cut has an amazing video on this.
117 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40sJOkxnac
He looks at the episode more from a class struggle perspective. I think people who think Grimes is right also forget that Homer had to give up his dreams to take a job he hates, in order to support his family. And he originally got into nuclear energy to begin with because he got the message society was broadcasting: Go into STEM. Nuclear energy is the future. Homer was a musician and bowling alley owner, both jobs he'd rather be doing and has more of a motivation to do. Running a power plant is arguably more useful, but it's not what Homer was meant for. Grimes is that insufferable person that always lectures you about bootstraps.
@Afqwa Also, building on RC's point that this episode really missed an opportunity for it to turn out that Burns was pitting Grimes against Homer to distract him from the fact he demoted Grimes because he saw him as a threat to his position of power (using the divide and rule tactic is definitely something Burns would do). Plus I think Lisa could really have ripped into Grimes after his tirade towards Homer by telling him his Randroid, "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality is a load of shit.
37 likes@Jack Monaghan I sort of don’t like the idea of Burns intentionally doing so, I honestly like how he doesn’t give a damn about Grimes, he’s the one still in power with a town of stereotypical idiots. If he did felt threatened by Grimes then he would’ve just not let him work at his factory or fire him for “certain circumstances”
24 likes@Dynamite Grizzly That's asking the right questions there, bud.
3 likesIt was nobody's fault
0 likesIt’s true; Grimes is unhappy in part because he bought into the idea he should be. He’s not stuck; no kids, no family...
28 likesThe world could be his oyster, but he can’t see past the shell.
@Loco Madman He should be free to search for his happiness where he wants just like Homer but the problem is that both have been put in a spot by institutions to be somewhere unpleasant in their eyes. Grime’s true problem is his obsession with having to gain that which he desires, and not practicing the detachment which Homer does. Less related; In a way this connects to a religious aspect look up Thomas Aquinas interpretation of the Beatitudes if you have any time.
16 likes@Wojtek Earl Gray I’ll definitely look into it; thank you. And I do totally get the thesis, it’s entirely valid in fact.
14 likesYet that said, as Emp here himself pointed; he never stopped for a moment to truly appreciate the fact the Homer envied Grimes’ life.
The question here, at its core, is it really the institution, or Frank allowing himself to become institutionalized? A gun to one’s head still leaves the person with a choice.
(And forgive the embarrassing over share, but I just got off a week of “Grain & Drain”
if you don’t already know, don’t askbecause not only am I Canadian, I’m a treaty status Native Cree; quite frankly, I’d rather get taken out behind the tool shed than even bend the knee.)I’m really happy that my comment sparked some further discussion.
10 likes@Afqwa Really, I think people forget this. Homer comes from a broken, unstable family where he was told repeatedly that he was a failure who would never amount to anything. When he's presented with a huge responsibility like being a father and husband, he does his absolute best. He gives up on his dreams for Marge and his kids. He forces himself to be successful so he can give his family what he didn't have.
15 likes> blame is not on Homer but on the systems
7 likesBut who created the system? The people did. This is especially true in a capitalist democracy. People choose their leaders. People choose what companies manufacture based on what they buy.
Afqwa to be honest, i feel like that video takes too much of homer’s side. both people are flawed- homer is exploiting the system, but he’s doing so unintentionally while putting lives at risk because he genuinely doesn’t know how to do his job. frank is also a downtrodden working class man, but he’s so obsessed with the idea of fairness that he lets it overtake his life. neither really have any awareness about /why/ they’re in the situations they’re in. i completely agree with the op- it’s not about who’s right, it’s about the way the system created two completely different, flawed people and put them at odds. they both have to take responsibility for their choices, but they both came from the same place (they even both have tragic pasts), and the same class. and that’s what i think is most interesting about this episode.
4 likes@randomguy9777 Now wait a minute, be fair here; How systems are created is a semantic chicken-or-the-egg debate, but institutionalization can’t 100% be removed from the equation here. I’m sure you’ve heard of the saying, “It doesn’t matter who anyone votes for, the government always gets in”.
3 likesBut you do almost hit the point right on the head.
This is going to a hella dated reference, but there’s a quote I like to keep tucked up my sleeve for occasions like this, something I’ve adopted into my own personal philosophy;
“I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death.” - Denis Leary as Edgar Friendly, Demolition Man
Gun to your head, you still have a choice.
Another way of looking at it? I’m not even going to copy it fully here; we’ve all watched V for Vendetta, and I hope we’ve all taken Valerie’s Letter to heart:
“Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch.
But one.
An inch.
It is small and it is fragile, and it is the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.
I hope that - whoever you are - you escape this place. I hope that the world turns, and that things get better.
But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may not meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you: I love you.
With all my heart.
I love you.
-Valerie."
From this little Madman, my best to all of you.
(Edited for spelling & grammatical corrections.)
@toontunes
6 likesThe reality is that Frank is also working in a dangerous workplace. The show repeatedly shows that the safety standards of the plant aren't really all that great to begin with. There's a skit where a fire drill results in absolute incompetence throughout the plant. Acid is also something that normally shouldn't be sitting around in a break room. Homer's cartoonish incompetence aside.
This isn't just a thing isolated to Homer or can be solely made out to be an issue of personal virtue.
You say Homer should say take personal responsibility and that's my point. Homer has tried to do that to the best of his ability. He's not a smart man, but he made a decision that he thought was best for his family. It's not that he made a conscious decision to stick it to the man, he just chose what he thought was the best shot at stability. "Do it for her."
I'm not taking sides with Homer against Grimes. The whole point is that Homer doesn't see Grimes as an enemy to begin with. It's Grimes who decided that's what Homer should be.
Afqwa i completely agree with that last point- homer does actively try to be nice to frank despite the comedic mishaps and such, and it’s on frank that he didn’t accept that outcome. i guess i just read your comment/that video more as a reading of homer’s actions as a conscious choice, and i wanted to offer my own thoughts on the matter. i hope i didn’t seem like i was specifically picking on you, though! i just remembered watching that video a while back as a huge fan of this episode, and ended up being disappointed just because in my opinion it seemed to paint both characters as something i didn’t really see them as. but i’m glad someone can appreciate it and we can both see each other’s points :)
3 likes@Afqwa sorry for cutting in; the “Do it for her” episode might very well be my favourite Simpsons episode, hands down. It mysteriously gets dusty in whatever room room I watch it in whenever I catch it; it’s just the strangest thing! 😅
3 likes@Loco Madman
0 likesFry's dog always gets the onion ninjas.
@toontunes
0 likesNo worries, I have a disagreeable personality to begin with.
@Afqwa Absolutely, 100%! So many ridiculous touching moments in Futurama (from a cartoon, no less)!
0 likes@KingOfTheRevolution - to younger people it has to be the system's fault. When you get old enough you realize the system is made up of people just like you.
1 likeI used to hate the A plot of this episode. I was one of those ones Matt talks about in the director''s commentary. This video blew my mind and helped me to get it.
2 likes@Shin Shaman Say it in my DMs. I'd love to hear it.
0 likes@Afqwa > Grimes is that insufferable person that always lectures you about bootstraps.
5 likesI have not watch the episode but is "bootstraps" ever mentioned or is it just something you are using to describe Grimes? It isn't a very good "description" IMHO since it's kind of a right wing saying.
Grimes leans more to the left IMHO given his obsession with "fairness" and what Homer "deserves". From Grimes' perspective, Homer is a "fat cat" that somehow failed upwards to his position of comfort and material wealth - of course from Homer's perspective, his job is what he reluctantly do to support his family because he is trapped; with his dream lifestyle ironically being what Grimes has (if other comments are right).
IMHO what makes Grimes insufferable is his fixation on what other people like Homer has instead of not giving a shit and just worrying about improving his own lot.
There should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
1 like@randomguy9777 The right are the ones who focus on personal responsibility as a fundamental value. If Grimes were meant to be left he'd be putting the blame with the institutions, not Homer.
8 likesGrimes is someone who was probably raised on that 80s Reagan era family values, American dream stuff, and is just realising it's bullshit, but doesn't understand why.
@Esteban De La Sexface The left doesn’t just blame institutions though, they blame the rich. And in a way, when they blame institutions, they are really blaming the current people in power aka “the establishment”.
6 likesFocusing on the inequality of outcomes and looking for a scapegoat is what the left does and is exactly what Grimes did.
@Dynamite Grizzly LOL!
0 likes@Afqwa That's a great episode. Cult of Work.
0 likes@randomguy9777
2 likesThat doesn't really line up with serious Leftist analysis, certainly not the element of "blame" - that's radlib stuff.
A serious critique of Capitalism often leads to the conclusion that it's bad for everyone - including the rich. They are miserable, I tells ya.
Grimes comes off like an angry Ayn Rand fan to me.
@Matt Gilbert you haven’t been paying attention to the left recently - the far left any way; the centrist are just trying to keep the country in one piece.
1 likeGrrr commie
2 likesNo when you realize they're both wrong, you tell them what they could do to grow and not give vague meaningless platitudes as an excuse for doing nothing.
0 likesWhat if, and hear me out, we had a system where its: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
1 like@N S Which isn’t a bad idea. It will require more thought than I’ve seen most people give it, however. Like, “to each according to his need.” It’s been established medically that many recreational and “luxury” things have health benefits and can be more important than many give them credit for, but how do we establish what qualifies as need? How can we quantify what may be a frivolity for one may be a much needed method of relation for another who “needs” it? I don’t pose these questions to claim answering them is impossible, but just to address things to consider which have not been resolved. Similarly, how do we quantify ability? Obviously working people as much as physically possible is terrible for health and cruel to practice, but even with well regulated working practices, there is the question of disability. The benefits of the system you (or Marx) proposed mean us with disabilities are still given what we need to live, so long as we put in the effort. But how can we actually tell when someone is putting in effort? Perhaps it’s simple case-by-case moderation of workers and mental health check-ups, but I know from experience us with invisible illnesses can be told we’re not doing our best when we are, simply because our ability can fluctuate day to day. Conversely, there’s also those who will quit early because they underestimate their own ability. Of course the latter isn’t such a harmful risk that it necessitates the former, but it’s a risk nonetheless. It is the ideal and is not impossible, but there are hurdles to that system that much be taken down properly if it is to be implemented.
0 likes@David Black That is probably the strangest take I’ve ever heard.
4 likesyeah....there's an aspect to this episode that goes really deep....very existential....you can do all good and all right seemingly,i suppose,and STILL get screwed over...and then there are people...who are like....agents of chaos....just making things worse...and they seemingly run into good fortune....and it's like...what's up with that?...where's the justice?...why is that allowed to happen in our reality?....is that fair?...and if it's not....why is it still allowed to happen?...what's the point of trying to play the game if the game is rigged?...it may be subtext,but it's in there,and it's actually very serious....much deeper than the comedy on the surface...your comment is a good one....i just watched the episode...it was fantastic...but somewhere in the back of my mind...i said (too bad he had to die......was'nt really a bad dude at all.....homer's done way worse..) ....but this was at the back of my head,behind all the laughs..i had'nt really formed it into a thought until i read your comment......what kills me is that Grimes does'nt realize the ONLY reason why Homer gets away with ANY of it,is because Homer is the LEAD CHARACTER in a COMEDIC cartoon that Grimes himself is a part of.....Grimes does'nt realize that cartoon physics and logic are at work....and that Homer MUST be potrayed the hero no matter what....because HE'S the star of the show...Grimes does'nt know that the more he complains about homer the more it will help homer because those are the rules in a cartoon....Grimes does'nt see these things.....but he knows something is wrong with that picture....and it just does'nt add up....and he's right....Homer's an idiot...not a bad person...just an idiot...and very careless......watching grimes' struggle in this,is like watching one of those old twilight zone episodes...where it's scary because the guy in the story realizes that the world around him isn't quite right..and he can't convince anyone else...which is actually horror...like william shatner trying to convince eveyone that there was a monster on the wing of the plane....there's an aspect of that here in gimes' story...and it actually makes it unusual,uncomfortable and sad.....you realize this guy is going through a horror story of his own with a terrible ending for the sake of what....ME and YOU laughing at Matt Groening's writing brought to you by FOX?.....so has has to die now?....so we can laugh?....he lost his life for that?...he went crazy for that?...poor guy...that ain't cool...he was right about homer...where's the justice?.....ultimately you might as well question everything....what's the point?...too deep?....not really since that's exactly what's really going on in this episode between the two main characters............yeah...brilliant episode
5 likes@TETCOM Oh, yes that “Nightmare At 20,000 Feet” comparison is rather apt! Honestly I didn’t laugh a lot in that episode, I enjoyed it but more in a fascination sort of way. Your meta analysis is interesting, of course this episode begs to be analyzed from a socio-political lens, but the core of the episode being “if a man from the real world met Homer who is a cartoon character” I think is often quickly forgotten beyond cursory mentions
2 likes@David Black illusion is a strong word, but I mostly agree.
0 likes@N S > From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
4 likesThat only works if we have an accurate way to determine "ability" and an objective definition of what constitutes "need".
Flimsy definitions and hand waving make for bad policy.
@N S Maybe, but think about it in the context of the episode. Grimes has the ability, and Homer with his family to care for has his needs. I can't imagine too much changing outside of Homer's living situation getting worse, as the luxuries are stripped away. Grimes' doesn't necessarily get better, and he is still envious of Homer's past accomplishments, familial love, etc. Grimes won't stop until Homer is destroyed, and by having that attitude destroyed himself.
0 likes@David Black I haven’t been here in a while, and simply do not have the time to read the previous messages for that I apologize, in case you had corroborated previously your point. Anyways I disagree with words illusion, if anything it seems like an illusion to believe you can see (truthfully) culture and identity without your own. All of us are not independent fully but are part of an identity and culture. To try and look at any culture or system outside of your own lenses would be like saying your can see the world better without your glasses 👓. The right action is to address that fact and be knowledgeable about any biases you may commit or ways in which you may misinterpret things do to your own point of view(for example you could stand from a place where it looks like it was one person who started the fight when it truly was the other) still you should be truthful, compassionate, understanding, and descriptive as much as you can, acknowledging your limits. Just because I can’t see the moon with my glasses doesn’t mean I can’t see the sky very clearly. Correct me if I am wrong but contemporary thinkers like Heidegger, Charles Taylor, and Wittgenstein have given arguments of this sort. Sorry for writing so much and I hope I was as insightful as possible. Have a good day 😊 cheerio! (Also not to you, but thanks to the OG maker of this comments for having the most civil comment sections I have ever seen)
0 likesNo system is perfect and Grimes' insistence that it gives him "what he deserves" drives him to madness. Detachment and contentedness are highly important.
1 likeI think people look at the conflict and think way too deep into it. It is literally Homer meeting Homer. Season 1 Homer meets Season 8 Homer. The downtrodden man from a broken home who has to struggle to make ends meet and envies everyone around him meets the well off man who lives a care free life that worries about blundering a family interaction. I imagine the writers were watching some of the earlier episodes and that was the inspiration. Homer became the very thing he hated much like how the Simpsons did. Go back and watch the first Christmas Episode or the Therapist episode to see where Frank Grimes comes from. That's the main thrust of the episode. It's the writers acknowledging that the Simpsons has become the establishment.
1 likeOne question I have to ask here: Who is more at fault here? Homer for being an incompetent idiot at his work while Grimes is overworked and underpaid? Or is it his business for being selective over who gets paid more based on their position?
4 likesDoes Grimes even have a right to be mad at Homer for this?
I've honestly watched this video at least once a month or so, sometimes multiple time a week, ever since I've discovered it.
5 likesI love the pursue of observing things , bringing them to the outside world and then back into their native medium, and I feel like this video does exactly that. Thank you for this.
Watching the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons years later, is a real eye opener. As a kid I saw it as amazing entertainment. The messages delivered as an adult in it are outstanding! God bless Homer Simpson
32 likesPerhaps it's just because this has been thoroughly stuck in my mind for the last little while, but thinking about it, Frank Grimes really reminds me of Kaworu Nagisa from Neon Genesis Evangelion: another similar character who appears in precisely one episode of his original show, changes the way its audience perceives its main character, and who's death completely alters the show's course of direction - plunging it into a downward spiral, if you will.
3 likes"Homer's Enemy" was an episode like no other. To me it was quite powerful.
0 likesThe ultimate lesson Homer Simpson teaches, don't worry about crap you can't change and worry even less about crap that does not directly impact you.
41 likes"Matt groening had to enter hell"
297 likesme: Mexico?
Narrator: shows california
Me: Ahhhh literal hell.
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I thought it was georgia
6 likesCalifornia: combining the worst parts of Mexico with the worst parts of America.
31 likesAs An (american] Georgian
4 likesim not a city folk cant confirm or deny if neither the state nor country of georgia is hell or not all i know is stalin is georgian
I briefly lived in San Diego and it was awesome. Would love to go back some day.
1 likeThis was unironically one of the greatest episodes of Vsauce ever made.
23 likesFunnily enough the Simpsons has outlived its relevancy by so long, it almost represents an ideal life. Homer has job security in a well paying job and a huge house, things the average family would kill for now. Before the Simpsons were supposed to represent dysfunction and barely able to scrape by, now they practically live in luxury.
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Honestly by today we should be at the point they keep previewing in future episodes, except most portrayals of Lisa being successful are probably highly inaccurate. Their first portrayal of her future self might be the most accurate one of all. And Maggie wouldn't be a famous rock star, she would be a YouTube vlogger with a silver play button.
317 likesThat’s true. Back in the day that wouldn’t be an ideal life. But I guess the quality of life has gotten worse, so now it is lol 😂
156 likesAs a GenX'er I will say that this was ideal life then and now - Parents married, mom's cooking breakfast, bills get paid, family has 2 cars, some pets... It was just the personalities and situations that pushed the envelope back then. They weren't the Cosby's. But none of us were.
252 likesI've seen many people comment on how the simpsons house is very nice looking back at it and it really makes you think
53 likes@emiliano zamora I mean even this whole episode admits "The Simpsons have it pretty good." Early on they didn't have much discretionary income but their house was nice and the neighborhood seemed safe. Possibly because there's only like eight criminals in the whole town.
121 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness Maggie will still be a rock star, thats just who she is 🤘😆
17 likes@sofaking onmynuts In our hearts, I suppose. :)
5 likesSomehow they managed to keep the same vehicle for over 30 years. They must be doing something right.
65 likes@Huels yea just like how they invented a method of non aging. It would skyrocket on the stock market today.
14 likesThe Simpsons don't live in luxury. By today's standards, they have a wonderfully comfy life as a member of the lower-mid middle class, but that doesn't qualify as "living in luxury."
23 likes@Lucious Thus the word "practically" its an exaggeration for the sake of humor
22 likes@Lucious It really depends who you ask, and that is sort of the point being made. To many of us, the lower middle class is a dream life.
54 likes@bill Smyth it already exists. its a drug to slow aging, supposedly. I aint saying anything concrete about it since I don't know much, but its sold rather quietly if it IS still sold, and to rather wealthy and influential people.
1 like@Lucious You mean upper-mid. If you think lower-middle class, single income nuclear families with three children can afford a two-story house in Oregon, and without dealing with a mortgage?
20 likesThis is a profoundly insightful statement about the deterioration of America in the last 30 years. For the Simpson to be accurate and relevant today, Homer and Marge would be divorced and unemployed, Lisa in 200K of student debt and Bart would be addicted to Oxycontin. Sad but true.
36 likes@mofomartian Lisa's still in grade school. Marge would probably be 200K in debt to student loans, likely from having obtained higher training than Homer did. Homer would maintain a mid-paying job where he gets to be lazy while Marge would be unable to find any work anywhere that isn't tantamount to slavery, and with the combination of high bills and poor spending habits, they would not be able to raise their children properly and would struggle just to keep a house.
17 likesThat would place them in the middle of middle class, at around the base of the top 33% of Americans.
@Orkhiss Well, a family with a high-income father living in a 2-story house with one main TV (that replaced a ~1980s junker they """found""" & used for over a decade) that has struggled to afford Christmas gifts in the past.
3 likesGranted, I haven't watched the Simpsons since like... 2013-ish? So if they have expanded on the area of debt/mortgage then I wouldn't know. If they have, then you have a good point- but it was always my impression that they were living in debt.
@Lucious yeah, high-income. As in, not low-middle class. I don't think they even have a mortgage, and of they do it's already been paid off because it is never mentioned. I know Grandpa paid the down-payment. All their budget problems, even in the early years where they actually worried about money, are being unable to cover surprise expenses such as expensive medical procedures or large vanity purchases. I don't like the P word, and I mean it removed from it's critical theory roots, but I don't think you realize how privileged the Simpsons are, especially now.
10 likes@Orkhiss Looking up the numbers, I see I had the wrong range. I thought 35-70k/year was "low-middle class", turns out its more like 30-55k/year. So yeah, assuming Homer makes a bit more than the average for his salary range, the Simpsons are slightly better off than the median-middle class. Not quite enough for upper-middle, but too much for lower-middle.
1 likeThe Simpsons' lifestyle, even with the struggle of scraping by, was already considered an ideal American dream by the time Grimes arrived who had a lifetime of misfortune despite all his hard work. His episode aged like fine wine being a relevant reflection of countries like U.S. so full of inequity and cautionary tale of being spiteful in such.
6 likesI'm not so sure the Simpsons ever represented what was easily achievable or obtainable materially to most ordinary people as the documented episode and this video realizes; The Simpsons was always a tool to examine what exactly the ideal, projected middle-America turned on its head would look like if it was inhabited by people who would never make it there in reality.
2 likesThe inevitably flawed, longing for The Simpsons to desperately try and fit in with society and acquire financial security early on in the series was testament to the real-world, unrealistic pressures put onto people to transition up the class system, the writing however didn't dwell here and bypassed further struggle and injected The Simpsons directly into established Suburbia to branch into different narratives until they revisit it in this episode. At its heart this episode is switching the real-world roles; the driven Frank Grimes's of the world are the ones that succeed and inhabit the real Springfeild's which makes his deconstruction and humiliation in this episode by the regular, unmotivated and disconnected Joe's of Springfield all the more fitting, a perfect antithesis to American society at large and a great opportunity to laugh along at the guy who actually wins in reality.
@A TC Eh, I'd disagree mostly just for the fact that people like Frank Grimes don't actually succeed most of the time. Being ambitious and hard worker doesn't rarely translates into upward mobility in the real world, especially if it's accompanied by a caustic personality like Grimey's.
9 likes@Orkhiss I don't believe it's the personality what makes a person successful. I think you're falling im the survivorship fallacy
4 likesFacts.
0 likesYep! All that on one income as well. So many sitcoms have the wife not working and that just doesn't make sense anymore if you want to be able to afford a house.
5 likes@Orkhiss People like Frank Grimes have a much higher chance of succeeding. But success can never be assured.
7 likesHa!
0 likesThey are still disfunctional
1 like@Trifolium animation Who isn't though now?
1 likeright? affording a nice house in a decent neighborhood while the wife is stay at home with the three kids and a dog with a cat? all piggy backing on 1 income?
2 likesYea unless you know what your doing in the day job and on the stock market that isn't a thing anymore
An ideal Simpsons joke would be Homer driving his car looking at a magazine talking about poverty in Africa. He goes "Oh those poor people. Luckily I'm in the United States of America!" Just as a homeless man comes up to him begging for money so him and his family can eat. Then homer just throws the magazine at him and drives off.
7 likesThey always did. We just didn't notice. You're basically repeating the insight of this video analysis, and passing it off as your own original thought. But then you're also basically saying what Frank Grimes says.
1 like@Lucious they have a 2 story house and a large car with no payments, a good job they don't have to worry about losing, and a functional family
1 like@Phantom Aviator That's not luxury. Luxury is having several homes, designer cars, and an 7+ digit salary.
0 likes@Lucious I wonder how much Homer's beer and Marge's hair habits cost, and what is lacking aside from the peace and order of Flanders' place.
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0 likes@drivethrupoet I don't know. None of us are perfect and a lot of us have issues, but I'm guessing we are about the same age and I remember back when this started airing, it was super dysfunctional. ( entertaining, but super dysfunctional.)
0 likesSometimes you gotta be like Homer
33 likesOne fact i admire about him
IF he is passionate about simething, he will move mountains to achive it
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You people have stood in my way long enough! I'm going to clown college!
4 likes@Livvy FUCK YEAH!!!!
0 likesThis is the most well-written and compelling video on the Simpsons I've ever watched. Great job.
20 likesThere will never ever be another youtube series like "Never ever"
19 likesSeriously, a series enjoyable to watch even if you know nothing about the topic / don't care about it.
Your Earnhardt video made me a nascar fan, and the WWE video darn came close to making me a wrestling fan.
Such a great and thoughtful review! Especially about the show's decline. PS: To me, "Homer's Enemy" was never the introduction of stupid, jerk Homer. That was Season 10's "Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble".
13 likesThis is absolutely brilliant. You should turn this into a full-length Simpsons documentary
8 likesFunnily enough this was the most memorable episode for me, even though I'm from Europe and watched it as a kid. Even without proper cultural context this episode had an impact on me.
10 likesThis reminds me of when my mom was trying to show me an episode of the x-files called "Jose Chung's from outer space". Found a plethora of videos explaining how good it was (that were longer than the episode) before actually finding the episode. For those who haven't found it, it's worth the search. Hardly anything I've seen has been so comedic and tragic, yet also making me genuinely question everything. You kind of have to know the two main protagonists beforehand to truly get it (which she exposed me to lol), but damn. Sidenote, she's a hardcore conspiracy theorist with a fire taste in memes and media; and the most loving mother anyone could ask for. I don't agree with her on a lot of things despite going down roughly the same path so far, but I appreciate that "question EVERYTHING" mentality she's given me. We're all mad lmao
4 likesEmp, another great video. Surprised you didn't include a reference to the film "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas, which hugely resembles the episode with the same message of the downfall of the "American Dream." The main character, like Grimes (who even looks and dresses the same), has done everything "right" and only suffers as a result and loses everything, he lives with his mother, has been divorced, and loses the right to see his daughter. The title "Falling Down" could be seen as a metaphor for a table which has broken two of it's legs, i.e. the main character losing his wife / family, which will topple down as a result of only having two supports, and thus the main character having a complete breakdown. I haven't seen the Simpsons episode but Grimes very much reminds me of the main character and the film in general.
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I'd like some breakfast please.
1 likeWow, he actually turned “Why are the Simpsons green?” into a profound statement about the show and society. What a legend. This is why I’m subscribed.
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I have to sit down and rethink everything after watching an episode of this series.
38 likesim colorblind, never noticed the green unless someone points it out, still dont see it, just am aware of it.
16 likesLegend.
5 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
1 likepretty fantastic re-contextualization
2 likes@Cheese Miser Protanopia or deuteranopia?
2 likesHomers Enemy was one of the darkest yet realistic episode of the whole series.
18 likesThis video is an absolute masterpiece. I'm genuinely envious of your ability to analyse the show and its contexts. Really well done!
4 likesYou’re definitely one of the best creators out there I’ve found recently. Great work. Love the high level thinking
2 likesFor a while when I was a kid I only had season 8 on DVD so watched it thoroughly even with the commentary eventually. As an adult I realised if it's the last hoorah of the golden age then it was a pretty weak hoorah, the earliest 3 seasons are probably my favourite with a few great episodes here and there like Homer Badman
0 likesSpeaking as someone who has been dealing with dysfunctional coworkers getting away with being dysfunctional, this analysis hits me at a deep level. TOO deep really.....
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same
0 likes@Quantumplay Was just talking to some coworkers about it today in fact….
0 likesMy son is 5-years-old and he loves the Simpsons. I only show him episodes more friendly to kids, a lot of earlier seasons and I avoid the ones with a lot of Itchy & Scratchy and the Halloween episodes. His favorite episodes are Dead Putting Society, Lisa the Vegetarian and the monorail one.
35 likesBut then I showed him Homer's Enemy. While I was laughing at Grimey's plight, my son was horrified. He got sad and put his head down. I asked him what he thought. He didn't like it. I said, son, you're going to have to learn about the real world sometime. Might as well be now.
I think this episode broke his spirits and he's not even out of kindergarten yet.
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that's good, maybe you could edit the more adult episodes and cut out bad stuff? pretty sure that would work and i don't think it requires anything
2 likesIf this story is even true, why the hell would you censor episodes for your kid, show him this episode then wonder why he got sad?!
11 likesThe episode didn't break his spirit, you did by coddling him then exposing him to something you didn't prepare him for.
Uh ya, that definitely happened
0 likes@Claire Willow Here's another story. So he's been watching the Simpsons and I usually skip Itchy and Scratchy. He's been asking me not to skip them and I recently started relenting. A few make him laugh but he saw one recently where Itchy shoots Scratchy in the knees and shoves his head into a boiler. He started crying and we had to stop the show. A few days later he asks for The Simpsons again and is back to asking for Itchy and Scratchy. It was the one that was "guest directed" by Oliver Stone. He said he didn't get it.
0 likesWow. If you had asked me I genuinely would have said this was my favorite episode of the Simpsons but I had no idea it was so renowned. It was the one non-treehouse of horror episode I remember saving and never taping over. I guess 7 year old me had good taste even if I may have not quite picked up on all the social meta-commentary going on at the time.
11 likesYou broke down gen-x's lifestyle and living in such a time so well holy shit.
10 likesEmpLemon went from a YTP shitposter to one of the most talented social commentators on the site. Love the vids man, your insight on society is just so interesting. I know I sound like a 400 iq rick and morty fanboy but just man your vids are way too good lol
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Strangely enough, I miss the era of his earlier commentaries from around 2016-2018. They were edgy, but very raw in meaning. Watch his rants about Youtube to see what I mean.
47 likes@Fattburger back when he was on his downward spiral
36 likes@Fattburger I like both but I hope we get some videos that are more on the screed side every once in a while.
15 likesIt’s a match made in entertainment heaven
2 likes@Fattburger nah new emp is so so much better
19 likes@Fattburger Nah, there were some okay videos but some of those rants are rather immature and not well done. His new content is just objectively better.
14 likes@Malakai I see what you mean, but I dunno. Today, Emperor lemon feels filtered, like he’s holding back from what he really wants to say. (and im not just speculating, he's admitted this in one of his vids last October.)
12 likesI understand why he did it, and Im not scolding him for doing it, and he's still my favorite content creator either way.
But part of me feels that his videos lost some of his charisma, even if they are "objectively" better.
It’s almost like learning a skill in the most popular way for a freelancer to make a living would benefit someone 🤪
0 likes@Fattburger I agree you, though I don't think edgyness is even a bad thing and I actually like edgyness personally
0 likes@jsweeney7359
1 likeTrue, it’s just that edginess can also be seen as immaturity (in my opinion it isnt though)
@Fattburger yeah I definitely miss it, but still like this better. Its like old idubbbz vs modern idubbz. Bolth still great, but in a way I miss the old times
0 likes@Fattburger it honestly depends on how it's done imo
0 likesWatching this again over a year later, I can really see how this applies to my own life. Everyone is both a Homer Simpson and a Frank Grimes, it's about finding that perfect balance within yourself. This episode points out that Frank cannot cope with his own perceived failure compared to how he perceives Homer's success, even though they are both two very different people with different upbringings, ambitions, and perceptions of success. In my career, I've been at the bottom for as long as I've been in it and no amount of knowing everything about my job or doing the best work possible is going to get me off the floor. In the modern era, you're not rewarded for your success at your job so you have to find it elsewhere. Most often it's out of our control, so the only way we can control our perception of success is within ourselves and that our self worth is not reflected on our material or situational success. The only thing you can do in that situation is being both Homer Simpson and Frank Grimes. I remember watching The Simpsons for as long as I've been alive, even hearing it before I was born. My family would always watch it at 6pm during dinner and it was always good to watch. I will never get that back and thus, the nostalgia sets in.
1 likeEmpLemon you are an analytical and creative genius, well done.
5 likesHomer was a middle class dude with one job, two cars and a home of his own.
14 likesFast forward to today, it would not be considered middle class at all.
After countless hrs of Simpson’s video essay over the years, It might finally be time to actually sit down and watch the show
15 likesthe life in hell series is super underrated
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it’s conor man
13 likesthe connorman
6 likesdid not expect to see you here, as always.
6 likes@T teg Egg You sure you replied to the right person.
2 likesOkay why do you watch every Youtuber I also watch, first I saw your comment on an Omni video, then an iNabber video, and then an EmpLemon video. I'm seriously starting to think my entire life on YT revolves around what you watch. Istg next I'm going to see you on a Summoning Salt video or something.
9 likesOkay hipster
0 likesDoor
1 likeVery much agreed. I had an anthology of the comic as a child and I would say that it's actually wittier and edgier than even the early Simpsons.
12 likesYou're EVERYWHERE!
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesI've been struggling in the same way that Frank Grimes has been. I think I'm going to start being more like homer
1 likeI love the lengths you went to in justifying so elaborately, efficiently a lazy YTP joke and by virtue of The Simpsons having done everything, you found a suitable bookend to make it seem relevant or profound.
5 likesI swear the more I age the more i love the Frank Grimes character SO DAMN MUCH.. cause i feel like I'm living just like him.
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14 likesI've got to say, I never rooted for Frank Grimes and I never started resenting Homer because of him. I never considered him a sympathetic villain either. Mostly because Frank was so extremely petty. It's not Homer's fault that life has been so easy for him and he bears no ill-will to most people. He isn't a mean person, whereas Frank appears does. Venting his frustrations on Homer instead of the system is what makes him not as compelling to me. Sure he berates the other people (and thus the system) in the end as well, but he's mostly focused on Homer.
Not to say I think Grimes is a badly designed character. The episode is one of my all-time favorites. It just doesn't evoke those specific emotions in me. ^^
Homer Simpson came from a dysfunctional family, his mother abandoned him, his father barely cared for him and yet he still sports a good job and supports a family with everything he has. without marge he would have gone nowhere and now he has surpassed what his father achieved and put him down for. Homer Simpson is by far the best character in modern television.
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Homer actually worked to get to where he is not in the academic sense but through hardship and trials. Sure he may be lazy and stupid but theres more to him than meets the eye.
82 likes@Coffin Tears Being in the right place at the right time hardly counts as work.
18 likesSo correct!!! Homer is truly a special person! Maybe not the brightest, but has a heart as bright as the sun! Heaven will have a special spot for him! ✌☀️☁️
14 likes@Ebani yeah could argue that but you could also argue that considering what homer went through he deserves at least some credit.
11 likes@Coffin Tears Would be an extremely poor thing to argue, specially considering this episode, unless you think Grimey deserved what he got after all he had been through, unlike Homer which didn't really went through any real hardship.
6 likes@Ebani i honestly dont care about your perspective on the matter i truly dont.
1 like@Coffin Tears 404: argument not found
6 likes@Visible AIDS ok? I just don't want confrontation
5 likes@Ebani A few episodes explore an idea that end up with Homer in a better workplace. In Magge Makes Three we learned that Homer achieved his dream of working at a bowling alley and was good at his job and was respected in the community but he eventually had to leave because he wouldn't be making enough money to support a third child. Simpsons and Deliah explores the problem with how people with unattractive appearances are treated with disrespect in the workplace. And Homer ends up getting a much better position and starts to pay attention more in work when growing hair when using a product made to do so.
11 likes@Ebani Grimes died because he overworked himself. His hard life drained all of his optimism and ability to find joy in something. Grimes never truly cares about the Simpsons but instead looks at Homer on face value and economic position compared to his. They are two sides of a coin and Grimes died for a reason.
16 likes@Random Guy on the Internet That's a superficially bad take but you do you.
1 like@Ebani Homer being in the right place at the right time is a good take, but the simple fact of life is that this is the case for many people.
13 likesJust because someone was fortunate doesn't discount all the hard work and trials behind them, and while he is a sitcom character and therefore not completely subject to life's rules (i.e. no risk of redundancy or long-term job loss unless specifically chosen for story purposes) - Homer's upbringing and early life as detailed in the Golden Age paints a picture of a simple man who nonetheless is a fairly hard-working yet envious individual who wanted a better life for himself and his family while also wanting to find a way to come to terms with his place in the world, and finding the balance between those two positions was a constant struggle until he finally achieved it, and even then there have been a large number of episodes showing that Homer still struggles to find that balance between the positions on a very regular basis.
Sure, his status quo depicts him as lazy and buffoonish, and that's totally fair, because according to the continuity he's already achieved the end goal of that experience and is now in the death spiral of its finale, and we've never really mined the depths of his growth into what he is on the whole without satirical comedy added to its story-telling.
@Coffin Tears to be fair, at least homer kicked back and became lazy AFTER he succeeded in life.
4 likes@Ebani Unless you've seen the early episodes on Homer's backstory, you wouldn't say that
2 likes@Ebani It does when you're hired for that.
2 likesPeople don't seem to realize (Along with Grimes), that Burns barely pays Homer even when he's doing a decent job, as seen by the fact that the family is usually in poverty. Homer's lazyness comes back to Burns being a cheapskate. He sees that he gets paid crap anyways, so he uses the chance. We've seen Homer step up when he's on an actual dangerous situation numerous times. If Grimes realized this, he would have gone against Burns' bad practices and the system rather than Homer, who's just being opportunistic and even then is barely paid. But his bruised ego and his focus on what he can see rather than investigating Homer's backstory leads him to blindly bash someone who doesn't deserve it.
Counterpoints though, speaking on behalf of Mr Grimes. 1 life was unfair to the guy to a cruel and laughable degree, and while he does choose to make Homer a point of obsession for himself and to vent his frustrations against the man, he isn't wrong for holding some animosity towards Homer Simpson.
2 likesIn the short time Grimes knew Homer he had shown no respect for Grimes or his property, stealing the man's lunch and his pencils despite being explicitly told no. And what's more saving Homers life from drinking acid got the man chewed out and docked pay, an act that was required because of Homer's dangerous lack of observation and criminal levels of negligence. Homer almost died, and his response was not to thank the man or resolve to at least be more careful, it was to laugh and rat the man out without providing context for his own involvement. And what's more Homer's own laziness and incompetence as a safety technician for a nuclear power plant is a legitimate threat to the health and safety of everyone around him.
It's easy to write off a lot of Homer's aloofness as he is his only victim, but that's not the case. And not just with Grimes but with his own friends and family, time and again we see Homer's selfish adherence to ignorance to be a detriment to those around him. We like Homer Simpson behind the TV screen, but the hard truth is if we ever met the guy, if he existed in his job in the real world, he would have gotten a lot of people killed at some point and we would certainly not want nothing to do with him because of not only the ways he hurts those around him, but so often refuses to change the behaviors which lead to such hardship. Homer Simpson is a bad husband, bad father, bad friend, bad neighbor, and a bad coworker, and Frank Grimes is justified in disliking him.
Great video! Just a note: it is amazing how stupid the essence of the american discussion sound like from the outside. For me, as you said, being an american means being like Homer Simpson. I mean, as well as with every other nationalism in the world.
1 likeThe 200IQ analysis of this episode is that Grimes is a real world character pointing out the absurdity of what's going on around him, like the creator intended. But film essays can be fun.
2 likesNot taking anything away from the episode, it was brilliant.
Great video, almost brought a tear to my eye how you described the beauty of the Simpsons
2 likesThe amazing thing about The Simpsons is that even if it has 30 years of garbage, that 10 years of high quality will be what most remember for coming generations.
1 likeSo thats why Homers enemy was so important!
30 likesGirl at bar: i think i hear my friends are calling me.
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Underrated comment
2 likesSo I’ve watched this video several times and I love it. I just saw a pic of Grimes dressed up like he was in the movie Falling Down and I realized that he’s the sympathetic villain Grimes was probably modeled after. Never put 2 and 2 together before, and the theme of that movie is exactly what you explain here.
11 likesHomer's Enemy is the best episode, and it's no wonder why.
2 likesI think another example of Frank Grimes being a completely normal person in the Simpsons world would be his voice. In the series, everyone has completely different and weird voices, with either different accents, tones, or pitches. Frank Grimes’ voice in all honesty is just Hank Azaria’s normal voice. That to me shows how he both stands out and fades in with all the other characters
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Incredible voice actor.
0 likesThe whole video was amazing. You can really see the detail and effort you put into it, so much I didn't know about The Simpsons.
2 likesIt's been over a year since he passed, and i have the feeling that...
8 likesthere will Never Ever be another rapper like MF DOOM
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Duh
1 likei love every video i’ve watched on this channel. bro, you’re so well informed and have such interesting and nuanced takes. i’m genuinely and thoroughly engaged from start to finish like ???? the level of quality ????? please keep this up
0 likesMy parents made sure me and my siblings were watching sitcoms and channels like Cartoon Network. But I also think they were also avoiding shows like the Simpsons at the time even though they also had strong opinions about America.
1 likeI never really appreciated how much they actually developed and explored their characters in early simpsons seasons, wow
2 likesThis break down was amazing and was something I'd never discovered on my own.
2 likesI can still remember when the Simpsons first appeared as just a short skit on the Tracy Ullman Show and Bart was popping up on bootleg type merchandise everywhere. It was kinda strange it was becoming known before it was really officially even a show.
3 likesYou absolutely nailed this entire video. Incredible. As a long time Simpsons fan I thought I knew everything about this episode. Turns out I knew maybe 20%.
0 likesGod i remember watching this episode when I was like 11 and just feeling really...cold in the pit of my stomach. Its such a crushingly dark ending because the implications of it all are solely in your head, meanwhile the episode ends with everyone laughing at the funeral, giving no solace to anything that just happened. Frank not only killed himself, he also left no impact on any character in the show, any lasting memories of him are heavily slanted and short term. It upsets me more than any horror movie because it's a level of....cosmic indifference that just feels crushingly lonely and real.
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I did too when I was a kid! It felt so mean spirited for no reason. But now I understand it more. Grimes' spite towards Homer who only ever wanted to befriend him even if obnoxious, hits different for me now. Homer was envious of Grimes too, adorably so, but never malicious. Still feels mean spirited, but I kinda get what the writers were going for.
145 likes@FYLM - Frankie Young Loves Movies nah Grimes saved Homer’s life and then Homer proceeded to tell Mr. Burns he destroyed the wall. Homer probably would’ve gotten a warning while Grimes actually faces serious consequences.
35 likesSounds like the death of the common man
9 likesthis is the greatest lesson. Grimes was nothing but materialistic, what else could happen to him? If he never gave anything else in his life meaning, how could people actually care or remember him? If you're materialistic, if you care about nothing but what you have, instead of who you and the people you love are, then how could you want people to remember or even like you?
28 likesthe idea that hard work has value in itself its long prove wrong. but that's just a small part of the deal. Grimes not only based his concept of justice and fairness on his own hard work and himself, but he forgot that to live in society is about how you can provide for it. Grimes never seemed like he ever wanted to be unique, or even develop his own personality... He cared only about materialistic success.
20 likes@Pedro Henrique Spot on. Grimes was the ultimate resentful looser.
6 likesI laughed cause he was dead and it was funny
5 likes@Dead one eye: the unkillable YEAH but I didn't have a philosophical awakening at 11. I just laughed cause he died unlessly trying to prove something
2 likes@Jurassic Reptile
2 likesThe answer to my previous question was "because you are one"
Liar
0 likesIt's scarier than a horror movie, because it's more real
1 likeI'm probably more like Grimey. Even more so as I got older. But there are bits of Homer in me too. I am perfectly content to sit back and watch the world burn, and I most certainly lack ambition and have no desire to work over the 40 hours a week I'm currently working. But when I am at work, I am like Grimes and pretty serious about doing a good job. But outside of work I have no inclination for things like college courses or home improvement. I want to have fun.
1 like@the black circle --- ⚫💽
0 likesWhy would he lie about this?
@HagonIsTheMan
0 likesHalf life is a shit franchise.
Homer has an innocence about him that Grimes didn't.
1 like@steel marr
0 likesI didn't know you had data on how every single human in the world reacted to this episode.
@Pedro Henrique nah he cared about hard work
0 likesjust watched this episode for the first time ever, and still can't get over how they killed him off in a cutaway gag.
1 likeI just watched Never Ever - HBox for the first time and i must say you are truly an outstanding cinematographer, and a huge inspiration. I felt like I was having chest palpitations watching HBox win Evo - you did such a good job with that section.
0 likesWhen I thought about other possibilities for never ever, the first and only thing came to mind was ‘there will never be another rock & roll band like Phish’ - not just my opinion, when you look at their resume, and some of the things they’ve done including riding a hotdog through their own audience on NYE, as well as playing a 13 night run at Madison Square Garden, without repeating any songs. Either way, I’ll continue to tune into your content. Well-Earned sub for you.
fantastic video, so well researched, informed and written. awesome stuff!
0 likesOkay, that intro was solid. You nailed the VSauce style of pacing and delivery.
2 likesSince Emplemon is green on this episode, it’s canonically proven that Emplemon is a Simpson character
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The Simpsons predicted Youtube poops
16 likesI am the funniest YouTuber of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear ihabe
2 likesWhat day are you on and how much more days to change your name do you have left?
0 likes@T teg Egg ok
1 likeIts because he is yellow
0 likesI haven’t seen the simpsons since I was a child and it never really caught my interest since but your explanation of it has made me wanna binge watch it so I can appreciate it
1 likeGood job man, you called animation a genre.
1 likeInteresting analysis, and well made video. I grew up with the Simpsons in the 90’s and it was definitely shortly after this episode/season.. it was still a few years before it became family guy.. anyways, my actual comment is to counter that “we” like Homer. I always felt like I was laughing at Homer. His character actually became more endearing over time, but in those early episodes it’s almost the train wreck effect.
1 likeHeart of gold?.. idk of its a gold standard to strangle children, and get your loved ones gifts for yourself, etc, etc, etc..
this video made me think about the characters in a show I haven’t watched in easily a decade, so thanks for the nostalgia trip.
I think there is a great lesson on office politics in this episode. You can not fix problems that the rest of the social group does not care about, no matter how important to the company it may be in reality.
2 likesas a colorblind person i never noticed you turned the simpson’s green lmao
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So wait, is yellow green to you or green yellow?
88 likes@Awsomeness103 certain shades of green, like the one he used; i perceive as yellow. certain tones of green & yellow bleed into each other too much for me to see a difference.
435 likesi have also never been able to accurately distinguish the difference between blue and purple. always a 50/50 for me and i’m semi convinced purple is just a myth created by people with normal color vision just to mess with us ;)
That’s really interesting
51 likesFunny how us others often forget about colorblindness, a friend of mine recently asked me what color a pear is.
121 likeswhat colour do you see me as?
13 likessame here! I only noticed he did it when he mentioned it was called 'green simpsons'. Are you red-green colour-blind like me?
19 likesI feel you bro
3 likesI have the same kind i was so confused lmao
3 likeslol that's great, I mean not the colorbindness but the results can be amusing
5 likes@Broccoli RIP chartreuse
6 likes@Broccoli You got the Emplemon life back lmao
0 likes@Harrison Haine yessir! i can see red well when i wear my enchroma (colorblind) glasses. but without them most shades of red often appear “brighter” & closer to green. i’ll never forget how much more vivid & rich red looked when i tried them on for the first time.
20 likessame
0 likesyupp 😂😂
0 likesYeah because they were always green to you
1 likeSAME
0 likesThat is hilarious. I also forget there are color blind people who are not able to see yellow.. you give me a smile today from the response alone.
2 likes@Broccoli
3 likesYou originally see the Simpsons as green, but if he makes them green you see them yellow?
EmpLemon subscribers: WhY aRe ThE sImPsOnS gReEn???
5 likesGeorgeNotFound: I'm colorblind
@Milton Gam What colour is a pear?
0 likes@Unfinished CGI green and crispy (texture is vital, do not forget)
0 likessame here
0 likes@Milton Gam RIP to all the people who bit into unripe fruit thinking it was nice and ripe 💀
4 likesexactly the same boat lol
0 likesFucking same
0 likesThis comment is so funny to me
1 likeSame, good to know i'm not the only one haha
2 likesSo does broccoli look yellow to you too?
0 likesMen usually are colourblind to the colour green. Helped when hunting back in the day.
0 likeslegit when im in middle school i thought when someone say they're colorblind they see the world in black and white. no wonder i dropout from high school
2 likesHe is the one!
0 likesThe legit the most fascinating thing I’ve read today. How different your world must be without being able to have perceived that for yourself all these years.
2 likesI mean, I didn’t notice a difference either, but that’s because I originally watched this episode on a really crappy CRT. Yet these days, talented creators can bang out 40 minute essays on the topic!
@Milton Gam “Crispy”, how curious. Would anyone else here have described a pear as “freckled” like I would have before reading this?
0 likes@Er ic bwahahaha...!!! Priceless comment, way to jump on the embarrassing over share for the lulz man; classic!
0 likes@Loco Madman
1 likeThey would have because pears are freckled. Fresh pears are crispy in texture as in, when you bite into them they crunch.
@Milton Gam Ahh, my mistake; I assumed you meant textured like felt cloth (not as in mouth feel). Is there software that can colour-correct things for you (on top of the colour-blind glasses)?
0 likesIt’s hardly the same thing, but as a light-sensitive, I don’t think I’ve spent more than that the time it takes to have a shower not looking through literally rose coloured glasses in maybe a decade now (that is, if not straight up heavy sunglasses if I’m going out on a bright day). Just less migraines this way; not that I’m actually photophobia. Just hurts.
@Loco Madman
0 likesI've never heard of color correction software but I'd imagine it would just be tinting with the intended purpose being to make some color less evident.
@Milton Gam okay, okay; gotcha. Let me ask you that same question another way.
0 likesWhen taking pictures, what does changing the filters do for you?
@Loco Madman
0 likesI think you might have misunderstood. I am not color blind in any way, changing filters just changes the strength of a certain perceived color. This, however, can make the world look more normal after I've gotten used to a certain shade, I'd imagine this would work the same for you. As in, fix being used to rose colored glasses by increasing your perception of rose so you start noticing that tint again.
@Milton Gam Nope, we understand each other perfectly; I take pictures (no filter) all the time so I can go back & find out how things really looked.
0 likesUnfortunately, the ‘Rona hasn’t helped my situation inside. Gotten so bad I can’t even open the sun blinds without risking crippling headaches.
But as you see, I developed work-arounds; glad you managed to do the same.
There should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesthis will sound stupid, but that too is almost a "homerism", something specifically designed to mess with people has no effect on people who couldn't tell the difference in the first place
0 likes@Mason Jones Well, actually, I just got up.. but I have a sneaking suspicion this could very well end up being the most intelligent thing I read all day! Good push, man.
0 likes@Asriel Dreemurr a bit tricky to articulate but the particular filter he used wasn’t “green” enough for my eyes to not register as yellow still. the shade of green he used is too light for me to pick up as green. i’m unable the difference between the simpson’s actual tone & the green he used. i wasn’t aware he had been doing it til he pointed it out.
5 likessame thing some notice when a youtuber says “i have a cold sorry for my voice”. usually not able to tell unless they point it out.
@Loco Madman i’m glad that peaked your interest! yeah with my eyes i can’t join the air force or work in air traffic control. can drive fine but i need to memorize the position of traffic lights cause they all look green to me :p
5 likes@Broccoli at least that’s pretty well standardized nearly across the world (as far as I know).
2 likes....highlighters! Do they do anything for you at all?
@Loco Madman yeah i'm thankful traffic light positions are universal, or at least uniform in the U.S. and highlighter colors such as yellow, orange, green, etc. look largely the same (yellow); so if i don't read the label it could be any of those colors without my knowledge. in middle school art class i drew a human hand green thinking it was tan/skin color. my teacher commented it was "creative" when she handed it back, which is when my classmates noticed it. the project was a drawing for mlk day so i drew a black hand shaking a white/tan hand not knowing it was actually green. basically i'm the reason color labels exist hahahaha
6 likes@Broccoli 😂
3 likesWait he turned them green
0 likes@Broccoli you found us out, purple isnt real. it's all just secretly reddish blue
2 likesMe too man
0 likesSame.
0 likesomg me too... :)
0 likesAbsolutely brilliant video, It felt more like a sociological/ anthropological monography than "just another youtube video" and i loved every second of it! Could I ask, what kind of education do you hold and how did you research for the making of this video?
0 likesI come back to this video every few months and it's just as magical with each watch. Quite possibly my favorite video on YouTube
0 likesI like to imagine that in an alternate ending after Frank Grimes gets Homer's job, he sees the billboard with all the Magie pictures.
4 likesHomer explains to Frank the story behind it and it puts Frank into a meltdown of guilt because he realizes that not only was Homer was once in the same position as he was in but he may have also taken away the very thing Homer needed to support his family.
This was freaking amazing, emplemon you always give us gold!
0 likesAs we found out in "HOMR" when Homer did do his job as Safety Engineer, he got the plant shut down. I think Burns tolerates Homer because Homer turns a blind eye to all the safety violations and keeps the plant open.
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or because burns has no clue who homer is lmao
258 likes@NoahGMD can’t it be both? He doesn’t know who he is, but knows that he’ll get shut down if Homer/that guy actually does his job.
366 likes@lg6884 that’s true
48 likesHomer has to work at a level just competent enough not to kill anybody
137 likesRemember that one episode where Homer is reading a Reader's Digest and Mr. Burns caught him on CCTV? Mr. Burns commented about the qualification of safety inspector in his plant is being an illiterate...
109 likesHomer is only one of many safety inspectors at the plant. After all he's from sector 7-G, the other sectors surely have their own inspectors.
41 likes@NoahGMD I see what episode you referenced there 👍
8 likes@Hulk2k6 Meta: The reason why the show is so mediocre under Disney is because Disney knows if the show is too good it'll hurt their bottom line due to the controversy it would create.
26 likes@Amy Mason Well, Murdoch wanted Mickey's Money and signed and was laughing all the way to the Bank ala Ted DiBiase!
7 likesMr Burns doesn't know who Homer is and that makes him the perfect "health inspector" for his company. As long as he remains invisible in his role.
6 likesJust no
0 likesWasn't this explaine din the first season or 2? i remember they chose him for good reason
2 likesKinda funny, because the first two Simpsons episodes I ever watched were HOMЯ and Homer's Enemy
0 likesMaybe that's why he PRETENDS not to know Homer so when cops ask questions he can be like.... Who? I don't know him?
3 likes@TonkarzOfSolSystem u say homer isn't the only safety inspector as if it's fact but say "surely" like you're assuming.
0 likes@Phil Congratulations on your comprehension skills so far.
2 likesTo bridge the remain gap, I will explain.
Yes it is something that I am assuming. But the basis for the assumption is so sound that the assumption may as well be fact. But it's not actually a fact.
I tried to make this clear in my comment.
Also, the Office Space scene of Milton makes me seethe with anger like nothing else. I hate seeing people treated like that by others. I would have defended Milton to the death.
7 likesI realize now that I am like Homers Enemy in more ways than I would like to admit. I am also consumed by the ideal world where fairness beats out anything else. I base my performances on how well or how much I practice or how hard I work for what I earn. Subconsciously I think that I diminish what I do with how hard I work. I also get jealous and try to beat the system in the ways you explained Homers enemy tries to beat it also. I represent little value to others because I am only focused on winning. I actually think that I learned something about myself here. Maybe I can learn to change now.
3 likesI love how you returned to the original question after all the distraction, just like the old episodes of The Simpsons
3 likesShowing a still from the Armin Tamzarian episode to mark the beginning of the Simpsons decline was spot on haha. Your videos are so well done. Keep up the good work
0 likesThe sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
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keyed and lockpilled
117 likes“Head on down to Chuck’s-“
59 likes“NO!”
Based and sneedpilled
80 likesI'm very glad I read this whole comment
29 likes@MiLLa i know that, that's why i say it lmao
27 likesBased
0 likes@s keyed
2 likesok but what "i cant sneed" means? saw that being comment everywhere
5 likes@Kakama Nuva lurk more
3 likes@nome "Officer, I can't sneed"
13 likesGod bless
5 likes@Titanium Rain i know its a reference to floyd but is it just being le edgy for no reason or it has a meaning?
0 likesSaw this copypasta for the first time earlier today. Crazy coincidence
7 likesbased
1 likesneed
3 likes@nome hands up don't sneed
9 likesBased
4 likes@s AAAAIIIEEEEE I KNEEL
2 likes@10 Outta 10 kneel more
2 likes@10 Outta 10 the difference is that all of that has a actual meaning unlike i cant sneed, feels like that pekple are just repeating over and over again to look cool, also its painful to read someone repeat all theese 4chan talk, its obvious you probbaly go there because the internet historian video, no one talks like that anymore
0 likes@s >keyed
13 likesReject modernity, return to 'epic'
@Some Bonehead this, this i can get behind
4 likes@nome imagine typing an entire paragraph to just say "lurk more" lmao
8 likesWrong vid bud
0 likes@Naj Adamu seethe
7 likesBased Sneed poster
10 likesFeed and Seedpilled.
6 likessneed
3 likeskeyed
1 like@MiLLa Googled and Skype-pilled.
0 likesI can't sneed
1 likeGod bless the Sneedclave
2 likesYou have to have a very high feed to seed and feed Sneed.
0 likes@nome I do. I talk like that. Sneed life matters.
0 likes@Zoro Sure. You go first.
0 likesI guess I could never buy into the idea of Homer’s Enemy as being brilliantly meta since it breaks Homer’s character in order to make its statement. Homer is not himself in this episode, he’s not an extreme version of himself, and the message of the episode is that inequity is the fault of lazy workers, that people like Frank are victims of people like Homer.
0 likesEmpLemon out here putting in all the work, to figure out the mysteries you never knew you needed answered...
3 likesThe Simpsons is basically the blueprint to every great comedic show. The less polished beginning -> Getting into their groove -> finding their stride -> hitting their stride -> experimentation -> deconstruction -> self parody -> living death.
6 likesThis video is amazing. Needs more likes. A true deep and thorough analysis of life and society.
0 likesThe main thing I took from this video was that Matt Groening's parents are Marge and Homer. I never knew that.
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Also, never realized that the street the Simpsons live in, Evergreen Terrace, was named after his college.
175 likesMargaret Groening’s maiden name before she was married was Wiggum, too. The show incorporated so many real life elements that you would sometimes forget it was even animated in the first place.
146 likesSo basically nothing. That thing you mentioned is in the first 3 minutes of this video
9 likes@Gerardo Salgado Jeez. Its just something I never knew that interested me the most at the time of hearing it. No big deal.
61 likes@Gerardo Salgado maybe he's such a die hard Simpsons fan (with selective memory) that he knows the rest?
16 likesIn the video, he says "The true location of the Simpson's home may forever remain an enigma," but it's literally based off of Springfield, OR, a town just South of where Matt Groening was born and raised, and Matt said so himself during an interview with the Smithsonian back in '12
15 likesand also his grandpa is Abraham Groening
10 likesSame
1 likeBUT YOU LET IN HOMER GLUPLIDGE!
1 likeIT SAYS "NO HOMERS"
i didn't know either
0 likesOh. So maybe Rocko's Modern Life was inspired by that. Rachel Bighead made a cartoon based on her parents like Matt did here.
1 like@NRF3703 bigheads had a son not a daughter
0 likes@IHHUWAA - Have you seen the new movie?
0 likes@Daniel Large At least we know how to close parentheses.
1 likeMart Grimpson
0 likes@Rafael Geraldo 1QQ
0 likesYou can’t binge The Simpsons without getting a thing for marge.
1 likeThis is an excellent video. I used to love the Simpsons when I was a kid and this episode was somehow stuck in my mind. So when I saw the thumbnail I immediately remembered the plot and I had to watch it... now I know why
0 likesExcellent documentary, I do not know why I put it off for so long. I am looking forward to the hopeful continuation of the "There will never ever" series in the future.
0 likesWasn’t expecting that philosophical sledgehammer but I’m glad I watched this.
1 like“Strong moral role models” showing bill cosby. Man, that hits hard every time I’m reminded of it. How heroes fall
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Really how villains are exposed.
183 likesHe didnt fall, he was assassinated.
36 likesHe was always fucking creepy dont kid yourself
86 likesI laughed
3 likesWas he ever proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt or was he just raked over the coals by the media?
22 likes@Valinor for sure guilty. He admitted to investigators that he used queludes to drug women and take them home
106 likesYucky
6 likesAnd how his victims fell after being roofie’d
6 likesKinda weird to call a convicted sex offender a fallen hero imo.
20 likes@P M when I was a kid he was considered the most wholesome and one of the greatest comedians of a decade, he helped pave the way for black people in the entertainment business, it’s less that he’s a fallen hero, and more that many people considered him a hero before this came out
84 likes@Peach Boi Productions huh? What does race have to do with this?
34 likesThere will Never Ever Be Another Fallen Hero Like Bill Cosby....
1 likehe didn't fall, so much as he got on the ground and started rolling in shit.
6 likes@Mashthestampede "hero?
1 likeThe best villains make everyone believe they’re the hero man
9 likesThat didn't age well at all...
6 likesRip everyone cuz he getting free...
2 likesComments written months before disaster
8 likeshe’s out now
6 likes@Sam And Joe Productions We live in a morally crumbing society
5 likes@Sam And Joe Productions this video is four months old, this comment is three months old, and literally everyone on the face of the planet earth already knows that, why are you here
1 like@Nick Name where did you find that opinion? Family Guy?
1 like@incinium z rich people have always been able to get away with crimes like this, if Bill Cosby getting away with (YouTube no no word) signifies a crumbling society then we’ve been living in the rubble for decades
10 likes@Fort Bill Cosby was released after his constitutional rights were acknowledged as having been roundly violated. Cosby getting out isn't a case of rich people getting away with shit, but him benefitting from laws designed to protect us all from the state.
9 likesHe's out based on a technicality rooted in how his trial was handled. But what's important to note is the judge in the case explicitly stated he had not been exonerated of any crimes
7 likes@MetaForth Watch the Razorfist video, it wasn't just a "technicality".
5 likes@Valinor My guy, admitted to drugging people. "Witch Hunt!" all you want.
3 likes@Rakinjo2 Our justice system is built to chase convictions no matter what. A lot of the times people will confess to a crime they didn't do purely because they were either offered a lighter sentence or were forced into it under threat of a heavier one. Furthermore, if there is actual proof that a crime took place, you wouldn't wait 30+ years to go to the authorities as the supposed victims of Cosby did. You accuse me of a witch hunt when your side rushed into accusing a man of a very serious crime because you wanted a head. You wanted blood. Whether or not he was indeed guilty or not wasn't taken into consideration. If Cosby did do the crime then he should be locked up no matter the suspicious facts surrounding this case. He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, and as long as there is only conjecture, base accusations, and a shaky confession... I'm not buying his guilt. So overall I'm glad he was freed. No innocent man should ever see the inside of a cell.
11 likes@Rakinjo2 He admitted to giving women drugs, in a video taken after the original prosecutor declined to pursue charges because the accusations weren't considered credible, meaning that Cosby's fifth amendment rights weren't protected at the time the video was taken & its admission into evidence was illegal.
1 likeMore like how villains lie
0 likes@MetaForth you really dont understand what happened. you have a cursory surface level explanation through snarky click bait websites. it was definitely not just a "technicality"
1 like@MetaForth So... basically he's the new OJ Simpson? Got away with it because of a technical screwup, even though he admitted to it after he couldn't be punished anymore, almost as if to say "haha, I got away with it" to the victim's family and everyone else?
2 likesIt shows you hollow all their claims to moral superiority were.
2 likeswas he ever a hero if he was a rapist the whole time man? your are still subconciously supporting him with this statement
0 likesThat's why you never - EVER - idolize anyone.
0 likes4:38
0 likes@Richard Arriaga to the other
0 likes@MCGRAM2 to
0 likes@MCGRAM2 😂😆😂
0 likes@MCGRAM2 I o
0 likes24:31 If it was grimey, he would've lost that chance. Thinking that he can't give something so low for his very loved one. Not a wrong idea, but it would sink himself into a spiral and end up losing the woman,
3 likesLove the VSauce intro. Absolutely nailed the transitions
0 likesCounterpoint to your introduction: Married... with Children started airing 2 years prior to The Simpsons. It even started airing a couple of weeks before The Simpsons arrived to Tracey Ullman Show as a series of shorts. I think Married... with Children did more to portray a dysfunctional family on TV.
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Yeah, the reason it created controversy wasn't simply for depicting a dysfunctional family, it was mostly because the show was animated and the star of the show was Bart (at first). In people's minds this meant that it was a show aimed at kids and a lot of parents freaked out, mine included. I wasn't allowed to watch it for years.
6 likesThe moral of the story is :
11 likes“There are people destined to succeed where others are destined to fail and we can do nothing about it”
Frank Grimes, or Grimey as he liked to be called, taught us that a man can triumph over adversity.
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Also known as Elon Musk's father-in-law.
144 likesIndeed. Frank Grimes is the best one-off Simpsons character.
80 likesGrimey actually felt like the only sane man in the simpson universe. Until he had his breaking point, reminds me of the main character from the movie Falling down. Also remember Frank grimes Jr?
230 likesWtf why is the jojo guy here
71 likesGrimey was one of the best one time Simpsons characters ever.
30 likesTHE SHUCK
21 likesYeah your back again
6 likesI started to scroll down and read the comments during this video and the very second this line was said was the exact moment I started reading this comment and I have to say that was pretty weird
20 likesoh hey, it's Mr. JimJim's Wacky Escapade
9 likes@philly_sports Totally agreed. My favorite one-off is a tie between Frank Grimes or Hank Scorpio.
9 likes27:01
0 likes@Bilb Ono grimes is Elon musk's wife
5 likesAnd that envy and jealousy helps no one.
2 likesYeet
0 likes@Louie Beatty.... and frank grimes is his father in law.... thats the joke...
1 like@Bilb Ono look at his wife's name
0 likesI understand the joke
Jojo
1 like@Maruquiturus cus he likes the content as well?
1 likeI'm so proud of you that you got the attention and heart from EmpLemon
1 like@kanade same thing just happened to me
0 likes@Mr. Michael Philips I believe one of the writers said that Grimey is what would happen if you put a normal person into the Simpsons' world
5 likesGood old Grimey.
1 like@Louie Beatty then why are you telling me elon musk's wife is Grimes!? You clearly didn't get the joke and youre now back pedaling. My joke was about his wife's name...
2 likesBets epsiode
0 likes@Mr. Michael Philips excellent Falling Down reference, very perceptive! They totally did come out roughly around the same time.
1 like@Isaac No disrespect man, but your entitlement is showing (y might wanna do something about it, just saying).
2 likes@Loco Madman Oh yeah I didn't think about that whoops.
1 likeOh lmao sup shuck
0 likesHow is ole Grimey anyway
0 likes@Chase Janus I heard he’s on some kinda health kick; he’s no longer smoking now.
0 likes“Don’t click the link, don’t click the link, don’t..” click
0 likesGoddammit. I clicked the link. I knew I was going to regret it... well, at least you didn’t Rick-roll us.
There should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@NoobedNate What the heck dude; why’d you direct that at me in three different threads? Who even was talking about F1 racing?? Bizarre guy, just totally bizarre..!
0 likeshere's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
4 likeshe's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
@c. j. macq I can’t disagree with any of that in general, except it’s still a detailed analysis. Not a 40 minute one, true, but he has more than a couple-few more examples to help prove his thesis statement.
0 likesIt’s not a bad piece, that’s all I’m saying.
Shucc
0 likes@Loco Madman ... its not a bad video at all. very well written and produced. i know the whole point of this video was to analyze. i was just making a general criticism about over analysis and using this video as an example. but it was a damned good video and it made some very good points.
0 likesPmurt si os dab. Read backwords for mesage
0 likes@Lily Choi remarkably clever way of skirting YouTube censorship rules, good push! 😂👏🏽👍🏽👌🏽
0 likes@Lily Choi ... thank you for that. i needed a smile.
0 likesalthough it seems that nothing matters if you are not the protagonist.
0 likesOvercome adversity and find nothing on the other side.
1 like@ECL28E ... are you doing a biography on me? you just described my life.
0 likesI totally remember him. I haven't watched Simpsons in 20 years but totally remember most of the early episodes. I grew up on it
1 like@Doxx Box Returns that’s our homer!
0 likesI read this exactly as it was spoken in the video
0 likesby dying
0 likesNever expected you to be here lol
0 likesAmong us
0 likesYeah, but expecting to be rewarded leaves you angry
0 likesTriumph? He fuckin died
0 likesI thought i escaped you...
0 likesYeah
0 likesShuck?!
0 likesRick Grimes
0 likesYeah I watched the video
0 likesAnd even thought Frank's AGONIZING struggle through life was TRAGICALLY cut short, we can be assured that....CHANGE THE CHANNEL MARGE!!!
0 likesROFL
0 likesMan cannot triumph over large voltages of electricity though.
0 likesOEOEOEOEO
0 likesYeah, and still be a jerk.
0 likes69th reply...
0 likes@c. j. macq you're one of the few people in the comments that actually get it.
0 likes@CeeStyleDj ... thanks so much. that's very kind. you know i was on drugs when i wrote that? NAWW, just kidding. actually, i was under the influence of "reality!" i appreciate your perceptive comment.
1 like@c. j. macq so many people in the comments - and even this analysis in general - are taking the Simpsons way too seriously. The creators made the show almost as a parody of certain things that are wrong with American culture or Americans in general - yet somehow the presenter in this video, and many people in the comments are coming to the conclusion of " we should be more like The Simpsons"... Lol, it blows my mind.
0 likes@CeeStyleDj .. you make a great point. i agree, i think people take way too much of everything TOO SERIOUSLY? this was just a tv show written by professional writers for an intended commerical result. and they achieved that result very well. i think the simpsons is one of the best tv shows ever. but that doesn't mean take every word from the show and apply to my world view. (except LISA! she's a character i greatly appreciate.)
0 likesyour last sentence was funny. do you remember the episode that was about convincing all of springfield to "be more like the boy?" meaning bart of course. all of springfiel turn into chaos. this seems to be what many of these analyzers want. we can be entertained by the simpsons and even learn from it. but no, i don't think its a good idea we become more like them.
@Mr. Michael Philips There's actually one other sane and normal person in the Simpson's universe. Superintendent Chalmers, just watch any scene with him and you'll see he's a regular guy interacting with and reacting to a bunch of maniacs.
0 likes@RWilson I hope your hand gets better soon.
0 likesChange the channel, Marge…
0 likesHonestly it blows my mind that you STILL have less than 1 mil subscribers, you’re up there with some of the most impressive examples of quality on YouTube
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Not anymore
0 likes24:53, fairness means everyone gets what they NEED. Fairness does not mean equality, and fairness does not mean everyone gets what they want. Frank Grimes fails because he fails to understand this.
2 likeswell done, one of the best documentaries ever seen
0 likesWhen you notice Matt Groenings initials on the side of the lead characters head. It kind of changes things and that is the thread that takes you into the absolute intelligence that IS the Simpsons.
1 likeComparison to others is the death of joy. Homer rarely compares himself to others.
1213 likesEdit: except Flanders and see how miserable he gets lol.
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Well he occasionally does. And then gets sad. Proves your point though :)
57 likesThat's right, we should all be just like Homer.
16 likesLol
0 likesTo be fair some of the grievances be priviledge are a bit dated as most people are struggling anyway with how money and affordability has changed. So in a way we are all Frank Grimes at this point. Also most shows do this by default in creating a Frank Grimes anyway, always someone with struggles and envies someone else’s privledged life.
1 like28:20 that's what i always thought about the episode, it's like putting someone from our world into some kind of childish/ comedical/ satirical universe
1 likeJust recently found your channel, and if nothing else, your choice of music constantly gives me a bit of whiplash when I have them playing mostly in the background.
0 likesDidn't really ever expect a guy presenting a documentary on a Simpsons episode to randomly chuck in tracks from Soft Machine.
Grimes: "It's not fair!"
1 likeJareth: "How often you say that. Makes me wonder what your basis for comparison is."
fun fact: my mom owned a restaurant in LA that Matt Groening went to almost daily while he was a struggling cartoonist in the 80s
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what is it called?
12 likesThat’s not true
12 likes@Pusfilth you don't have to believe it if you don't want to
94 likes@Immadeus it's called Millies, it's in Silverlake CA but my mom hasn't been the owner in decades. this was back before the Simpsons was created
133 likes@Remy Clio don’t
4 likes@Pusfilth thank you for confirming your opinion
69 likes@Remy Clio That’s really cool!
13 likesthat is awesome, dont know why people think your lying
33 likes@Mintymoes Because there is a spectrum going from "The internet/people are full of sh*t" and "People want to show off as the person who's not a fool".
49 likes@ooo ooo it's a very pointless lie, which accomplishes nothing, "wow, matt greoning ate a few times at your mum's restaurant, that she hasn't owned for decades, and he probably doesn't remember". I'm more inclined to believe her, rather than think that she's lying about something so insignificant
71 likes@ooo ooo only reason I could see not believing it would be “what starving artist can eat at a restaurant everyday”
14 likesbut ig things could have been different back then
Please tell some stories what the heck, you’re just gonna drop that and not mention anything else?
3 likes@NingaShark that's pretty much the whole story, they weren't friends or anything, just a fun fact that I almost regret sharing with you guys
40 likes@Remy Clio sorry if I came off rude, now that you mention that it’s understandable, I thought maybe your mom had known him or maybe spoke to him about what he was making, have a good day/night :)
10 likesThat's sick
0 likes@NingaShark you're fine! all of you are understandably skeptical
2 likes... Interesting...
0 likes@dead yami hahaha I asked that too actually, the dollar went a much longer way back then
2 likes>struggling artist
3 likes>Ate at a restaurant every day
Pick one
>the dollar went farther in the 1980s
14 likes>by “eat there” sometimes he just went to get coffee and work on stuff
pick one
Wow, that's actually quite interesting!
0 likesFunny how the waiters in the simpsons are sassy xD
0 likes@La Folia You know that most struggling artists, still get like a cup of coffee everyday right?
1 likeCool
0 likes@ooo ooo I once told a kid in my third grade class that stone cold was my uncle he believed me obviously that's not true but I never told him that
1 likeNice
0 likesI was hoping this thread would end with a surprise twist that it really was a lie. But for what it's worth, I believe ya.
0 likesUnless your mom inherited I think you lying
0 likesCause something tells me your moon didn’t start a restaurant in 1926
It’s really expensive to go a restaurant almost daily, especially as a struggling artist…..
1 like@InVālįdPērsøń 4Ø4 Her moon?
0 likesthat's really only a fun fact if you are you
1 like@Eel Eye Entertainment That's some serious salt. 🤣
0 likes@Coke Francis
1 likeR/Nothingeverhappens
@La Folia
0 likesR/Nothingeverhappens
@Coke Francis
0 likesR/Nothingeverhappens
@La Folia
0 likesR/Nothingeverhappens
Yeah doubt it if he was broke and ate at a restaurant daily, more likely he would be at home eating instant noodles
0 likes@Dead one eye: the unkillable just because your lives are boring af doesn't mean nothing happens
0 likes@Dead one eye: the unkillable my apologies! I misinterpreted
1 like@hehexd itsna tucking fun fact
0 likes@La Folia restaurants don't vento be expensive also this is in 70s
0 likes@That one dude •-• this is 70s
0 likes@Zorbaz you ever heard of inflation?
0 likesReally?
0 likes@That one dude •-• no what is that explain please as I'm a dumb consoomer baby
0 likes@Zorbaz I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. But based on your previous comments I’m gonna go with no.
0 likesThe value of currency will generally go down with time, or in other words, prices will increase.
Meaning 7$ today was worth 1$ in the 70’s.
A pack of cigarettes in the 70’s costed a dollar. You may think, oh shit that’s cheap. But translated to today’s currency, it costed 7 modern day US dollars
@That one dude •-• I know?
0 likes@Zorbaz a burger from McDonald’s is actually cheaper than the average burger in the 70’s. Restaurants weren’t cheaper in the 70’s
0 likes@That one dude •-• but restaurants are very broad range for al we know she's a small local eatery or the guy just got a muffin or a small meal
0 likes@Zorbaz only way to serve super cheap food is sell shitty food or be part of a huge chain like McDonalds
0 likes@Zorbaz Also a struggling artist in LA can just mean they weren’t well off but it doesn’t mean they are piss poor to the point they cant grab a sandwich and coffee 5 days a week instead of running a car for instance
0 likes@Dow Kinners yes
0 likesEveryone keeps saying if he was broke he wouldn't eat out every day? It's a shit ton cheaper to eat out then cook. If their mom owned a greasy spoon you could have lunch/dinner in la for the equivalent of 10$. Also I'm sure they ment struggling not broke. The time in my life when I considered myself broke I was young no large financial commitments. I also ate every meal out because I hadn't learned to cook yet.
0 likesMichael Jackson came over to my house to use the bathroom once - Chunk
0 likesHomers Enemy would be a good episode on its own. But the line that REALLY shined the episode was “You are what’s wrong with America, Simpson.”
1 likeIs nobody gonna talk about Marge’s heroic struggle to get her name on a plate (it’s at the start of the episode)
1 likethis is one of the best videos I have ever seen on youtube.really amazing content.
0 likesOnly a YouTuber could make a video essay longer than the actual episode 😂
0 likesgrowing up, Homer's Enemy scared me much more then any of the Tree house of Terrors. Grimes' meltdown is honestly still terrifying today.
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Who are you
46 likes@Dwinkleblumbs We're not supposed to ask about that.
161 likesWho are you?
3 likesWhat could be more terrifying than the unpredictability of apoplectic rage? Maybe the idea of being insane yourself, would you know if you saw the world differently from everyone else? Who am I?
56 likesI’m glad it’s not just me lmao…it’s so unsettling in far too real a way, the fact that it happens mid-sentence, in a way that wouldn’t have killed any other character, it really got to me
58 likes@Ruby Blue I think that was the point, Homer can survive falling down Springfield Gorge(though Behind the Laughter showed him becoming addicted to painkillers during his recovery), but Grimey couldn't handle high voltage for even a moment, though he did grab 2 different wires so the circuit would have formed through his heart, the real question is why those 2 wires were in such close proximity to each other without proper insulation, that's just asking for a short.
40 likesWho aren't you?
5 likes@Niagaranobs Nobody special.
6 likes@Loopy Loon The character of Frank Grimes I feel like also represents the downfall of the american economy. The Simpsons can be considered part of the higher or higher middle class by today's standards. Frank Grimes gives Homer a scratching critique on his life and represents all of us now.
18 likes@Random Guy on the Internet But Grimes was also a spiteful sort who failed to realize that if his strategy wasn't working he ought to change it, but he instead chose to (try to) punish Homer because his existence didn't conform to his world view.
31 likesTerrifyingly hilarious, you mean?
0 likesFalling Down.
4 likesPerhaps the better question is what does he want
2 likesYeah
0 likesAsking somebody named "dont ask me who i am" who he/she is? I like that
0 likes@Dan King lol I haven't seen a Simpson's in years but I remember grimey reminded me of that guy in falling down, maybe the hair helped
2 likesIt is?
0 likesbecause of how relatable it is
1 likethan*
0 likesTreehouse of Horror*
:D:D:D:D
@Loopy Loon "why were those 2 wires so close together and not insulated" have you seen the power plant? There's beakers of acid lying around and toxic waste leaking from the ceiling practically everywhere.
1 like@F-22 Raptor landing zone That's a good point, even if you accept that Mr. Burns just buys his way out trouble, you'd think he'd eventually run out of money with such a poorly maintained power plant piling up lawsuits.
0 likesThan*
0 likesMan you mustve skipped homers alien
0 likes@AlexL whats homer’s alien? I don’t think I’ve watched this episode
0 likesI showed my elementary school-aged son this episode and I regret it. I showed him a little bit of Itchy and Scratchy before and a couple of the more benign Halloween episodes, and he loved them. But this one made him hate the Simpsons. He was horrified.
1 like@Randomfully Wonderful well that’s not very nice…
0 likes@BoomerangCN Nostalgia mhm :]
0 likesits extremely realistic. hence why it scares you and me.
0 likesTrue
0 likesSimpsons was once the head of there time.
1 likeI stopped watching around section 12, it was unrecognizable after section 9, but loyalty of the show kept me around until one day that loyalty faded
The VSauce bit had me dying every time he did another transition 😂
1 likeI miss the glory days of the Simpsons. I feel like in the late 1990s, the mantle of best cartoon passed to Futurama. But the Simpsons were my fav from the first episode in 1989 until 2000 or so. I cannot believe that it is still going on, although I lost interest in it a decade ago when it was already years into a steep decline. But it (and Futurama) have a permanent special place in my heart
0 likesThe bowling alley line always gets me 😆
0 likesI think this episode has a really important message that many people need to hear, it's that no matter how hard working or intelligent you are, you can't live a happy and fulfilling life if you're hate filled and resentful. Something horrible will eventually happen directly or indirectly as a result of this hatred, in Grimey's case, his death. Life is unfair and we can't spend our time being jealous and envious of others, we should just mind our own business sometimes. Great episode.
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@KOT EBANA ROT the real villain of the episode is people like Burns
36 likes@KOT EBANA ROT It kind of is. Homer sells Grimes out (not maliciously but stupidly) for being the one who destroyed a wall with acid, acid that Homer was about to drink by accident. This whole diatribe against Grimes is silly, Grimes doesn't start off as some bitter, hateful person, he becomes that person when confronted with Homer's obliviousness, sloth, ignorance and luck. I'd be pretty hateful of someone who; ate my lunch, chewed my pencils, ratted me out after saving their life, kept calling me a name I didn't want, etc. etc. It just stings twice as hard when you find that the idiot who did all this is also somehow more successful than you despite doing nothing.
62 likesbu-but... but... but the rich are taking over, taking money from us... and getting rid of the workforce and replacing them with machines. Gah, its so unfair!
1 like@Dr. Fun Sure, but what does Frank accomplish with all his efforts to tear down Homer? It's okay to dislike someone, but trying to destroy them out of jealousy won't change anything.
15 likes@Monlyth I agree, I think it's far more productive to try to change the system that allows a parasite like Homer to exist rather than to focus your attention on the parasite itself.
37 likesAlso, I think emplemon's and a lot of people's assessment of what motivates Grimes is incorrect, I don't think it's really jealousy that motivates Frank but rather that Homer represents the antithesis of his worldview, and he wants to correct it by exposing Homer. Consider; if Frank was motivated by jealousy then it stands to reason that the writers would write Frank attempting to take what Homer has rather than destroy what he's got. Instead, Frank tries to show Homer's incompetence to the world, expecting that if he does so, Homer's lack of work/aptitude would be punished which fits with his worldview (hard work = success, no work = failure). Instead, the world embraces Homer's ineptitude ("first prize!"), shattering Frank's worldview completely and driving him mad.
@true romani I don’t think that’s unfair, but cruel is definitely the outcome. There’s enough dystopian stories where AI’s replace humans as workers. Maybe when I’m near death and senile everyone will be out of jobs and a communist revolution will occur, or everyone will die.
4 likesDr. Fun fantastic comment, I completely agree
0 likes@true romani What are u trying to imply? I mean you don't need to take over when you already hold most power, and also the increase of technology to minimse the need for wage labour (inside of a system that nessecitates that most people must sell their labour) is kind of a natural tendencey since at least for a certain amount of time it's more profitable.
0 likes@Dr. Fun ignore, you cant do nothing about that bad person, otherwise what was Homer crime? Being happy and himself
2 likes@Eric he wasn’t a criminal but he did half ass his job and is lazy as hell and he still gets paid
1 like@Dr. Fun his life*
0 likes@Monlyth Trying to destroy someone for any reason is stupid.
1 like@popopop984 Incorrect.
0 likes@Hepi and what is your business with others making Shit Jobs? I would be annoyed but not in that Grimes level
0 likes@Dr. Fun I mean sure, but as Emp said. Blaming and getting mad at Homer is like getting mad at your dog. They can do stupid shit but they're not doing it to inconvenience you or piss you off.
2 likesPlus Homer wasn't even trying to be antagonistic towards him, Grimes let his resentment get the best of him which killed him in the end.
2 likes@iamhungey12345 Homer was like: a
1 likeCrimes: I HATE YOU
@Dr. Fun Exactly
0 likesweird that it feels sadder to see the show I grew up with continues its run time rather than end
1 likeThere have been surprisingly strong episodes since The Simpsons heyday. You dismiss twenty seasons pretty glibly.
1 likeI didn’t know emp was that patriotic. As a Canadian, I found the “what does it mean to be American” bit a little over exaggerated lol
0 likeswhen u said every other show copies it in some way i was reminded of my theory that the amazing world of gumball is one of those shows. a lazy dad who eats a lot. a mom whos always trying to keep things tidy both metaphorically and literally and also a smart child. plus 2 wacky children. plus they both take place in small towns with repeating characters. idk i thought that these similarities were interesting
1 likeFelt cheap just giving this video a like. This is possibly the greatest essay-style video I've ever seen. The editing, story-telling, and depth of analysis is just stunning. Take this anonymous internet user's thumbs up!
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You obvioisly haven't seen his wrestling video
6 likesCheck vsauce of you like this type of stringed ideas, this episode is basically everything they did there, don't know if it's straight up stealing the style or just a love letter to Michael.
4 likes@lasarousi look at all of emplemons other videos
5 likesAGREE 100%
2 likesThere will Never Ever be another actress like Betty White would be great idea for a new episode to this series. RIP!
2 likesYou can relate to Grimes, but you can't sympathy with him
0 likesPs: the cake scene broke my heart... I wanna hug that man
I’ve never seen an episode of The Simpsons… literally.
3 likesAnd I’m 33 years old. But your video was so awesome, and kept me glued to the screen the entire time!!
Same goes with your NASCAR videos. I’ve never watched a single race… But those are some of my most favorite videos on YouTube.
"Above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley" is my favorite line in the simpsons.
0 likesSo that's why you used green
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fuck I messed up
22 likesfuck i messed up
21 likes@Sockren you wouldn't get it
7 likesAlways has been
5 likessus.
3 likesyoutube copyright metagame
24 likeswhat are these replies
8 likeslol you're here
1 likefuck i messed up
3 likes@Адам you wouldn't get it
1 likeLiterature teacher joined the game
1 likeThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesDAMN IT, I messed up.
0 likesFuck I messed up.
1 likeThe Simpsons take human skin and decrease the red and increase the green. He just doubled the process.
0 likes@GothicServer you wouldn’t get it
1 likeWhat is that reference
0 likesDoh
0 likesfuck i messed up
1 like@Joseph McAuley exactly
0 likesI wouldn't get it
1 likeThe decline was real. It’s hard to imagine when someone finds modern Simpsons episodes to be “pretty good”, that they ever appreciated the Simpsons at all.
1 likeOkay you convinced me Frank Grimes represents everything that's wrong with America
0 likesI still love the new episodes. 🤷♂️ The show dipped in quality in the late teens. I think it's very intelligent and funny again.
0 likesWhen I was a kid the Simpsons Christmas special was on TV, there was also a commercial for Butterfingers with Bart so I naturally assumed that they made the Simpsons look like Butterfingers wrappers and that's why they were yellow.
7 likes"There will never ever be another Simpsons episode--"
1867 likesFinally. It's over.
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haha xd
6 likesIf only
42 likesThe Simpsons were dead to me the second they made that Trump West Side Story video. I hadn’t watched them for years but that killed any interest I had in watching them ever again. And I absolutely HATED Trump as president. That video was just so unbelievably cringe-inducing that it ruined the show for me.
74 likes@philly_sports comparison wise Biden is doing much worse and taking credit for things not his...the show is only precedent in events.
42 likes@philly_sports i didn't even know about it till now and yet it didn't surprise me at all. Fortunately we don't have Fox where i live so they dont show recent episodes on tv anyway
15 likesBased
0 likes@philly_sports the simpsons died long before that. they stopped being funny by the late-2000s.
14 likes@TVB by the time the movie came out or earlier
6 likes@philly_sports so dead to you that you won't watch youtube video essays about them?
1 like@David Linehat I think he means the show after season 8. Spongebob is the same way. The show effectively ended a long time ago, but it is still worthy of analysis like other TV shows that have ended like The Sopranos or The Wire. GOT died around season 4-5, before that it was a decent show worth watching and analyzing.
3 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@philly_sports I voted for Trump just to spite both them and Family Guy, which I quit watching after the Trump episode (whose only funny joke was a stealth reference to The One and Only Genuine Original Family Band ) and I'll vote for him again just to spite them both. AOC and Ilhan Omar's anti-Israel rhetoric is racist, antisemitic, and xenophobic, and all that "orange man bad" propaganda is stealth white supremacy.
4 likesAnd "Bart to the Future" got plenty wrong in that scene and in general. It assumes "President Trump" (the name Donald is never spoken) will be followed by a woman (Kamala Harris, are you watching?), and they failed to predict Chastity Bono, Lisa's opponent in the election, renouncing her homosexuality by renouncing her womanhood altogether (see also: the Cher-crow). In addition to being a cheap knockoff of "Lisa's Wedding," they also ripped off a season 1 Family Guy episode (the "Canada sucks" one) by setting up the framing device in an Indian casino.
@Attmay fucking hell man
6 likes@Attmay the only difference between Family Guy and Simpsons in this current state is that the former's new episodes are funnier than the latter.
1 likeI still think American Dad is quality content even if it is flawed as hell, yet it's still running and still better than the either two.
@外国人 symbiote you just described the last 4 years of comrade trumpski the russian puppet 😂
2 likes@Majin Vegeta over 20 EO within the first couple of months most regarding undermining rights, the oil ransom debacle, antagonizing China and then becoming the face of a pacifist nation after AAPI sjw acts, his own pathetic bow to Putin meeting after calling the man a murderer thug in the election.
0 likesYea kid,
the good ending
0 likesdon't worry, its been renewed for a 33rd and a 34th season!
1 like@philly_sports nice sarcasm bro
0 likesYou make some fair points but it could have been a great episode but based on the end and the call backs to the episode it is most meanspirited story in retrospect:
0 likes1. The Grimey nickname
2. Having his son come back and try and kill Homer
3. Ever Homer joke about Grimes
4. The whole laugh scene at the funeral
Phenomenal video, well done
2 likesGrimes is a person with common sense in world of cartoon logic. And Homer Simpson is the one we see most to use and abuse this cartoon logic. While at the same time, this cartoon logic does not work for Grimes at all.
1 likeConsidering how often he saw Homer to be extremely irresponsible and outright danger to society. How he encountered multiple times Homer to be danger to people around, Grimes included, and then see Homer get away with everything by lying or by cartoon logic, yeah that would piss me off too.
This conflict between Grimes and Homer is about universe that placed arbitrary double standards on them, where Homer gets away with everything without lasting consequences while Grimes never gets a break no matter what either of them do.
Homer represents to Grimes everything wrong with this cartoon universe. And Grimes is perfectly aware of that. So of course he dislikes him. Because he is forced to be in universe that decided that he shall be the butt of every joke while Homer has infinite divine intervention at his call at any moment.
I have the opposite theory about The Simpsons future prediction powers. It’s not that he was saying things that were going to come true they were intentionally saying things so stupid that the audience of that time would laugh at the absurdity of it… ironically enough though the real world is so bizarre that all these intentionally bad predictions turned out right.
3 likesI do hate to be that guy, and let me just say, your videos are amazing and I love all of them and hope you continue to produce them, but 588 nanometers is distinctly orange light. Yellow light exists between 550 and 580 nm. Or at least according to my quantum homework it does.
0 likesAs a long time fan of the show, I have to defend the later seasons. The issue with the structure of the series after the 9th season was that it changed it's identity, but that doesn't mean that the show has gotten worse. It's just not the same direction and that's what made it feel lesser. But over the years, the series has produced several episodes that have been solid and again, with time, aged well and made them feel like better episodes. The issue with a series this long, is that it's hard to create engaging stories that don't share similarities to other animated shows or that repeats an older plot. For instance, Pokemon has basically made the same episodes for most of the generations until Pokemon Best Wishes where they tried to make the show darker, then more serious in nature in the XYZ arc and goofier in Sun and Moon and now fast paced in Journeys. But for several earlier seasons they had the same formula and it became stale. The Simpsons have been in competition with several other shows since the '90s but have often found strong themes, like the 'The Squirt and the Whale' episode where there was a beached whale and Springfield had to resolve the issue, which had contrasting opinions on how it should have been handled. Since then several other episodes have been great, but the issue with the seasons have been that not every episode is strongly written or as interesting in the 21st century. With that said, I thought this was an amazing synopsis of why the show is special and how it reflects to the American Dream. I found a lot of good in this video and thought it was well-made.
0 likesyou need your own tv show dude, the production value is crazy
0 likesEmp has the greatest song choices in his videos by far! Soft Machine? What an awesome & fitting choice!
0 likesI think the simpsons decline goes more like this:
1 likes1-8 (Classical): the golden age
s9-11 (Old): the okay age, ended with Maude's death
s11-20 (Middle): the decline of the simpsons, no more canon changes
s20-30 (Modern): Fox does daring changes to the show to try and revive it
s30 onwards (Today): Everyone has given up, show will decline forever and no major canon changes will be made
Born in the 21st century (and in another country), I grew mostly watching post season 8 Simpsons episodes, so I didn't understand the criticism.
0 likesNow this video blew my mind
I'm not especially familiar with this series beyond a few episodes occasionally, but would people likely consider Frank and Homer to be analogous to Sideshow Bob and Bart?
0 likesIt’s amazing how I still don’t know what happens in homers enemy after watching this
0 likesFun little piece of information: in the “7 deadly sins” part, for lust he shows homer reaching for a woman’s ass, or at least it would appear that way. Actually, in the episode Homer is show to be reaching for a piece of candy that get stuck there, leading to her accusing him of being a womanizer in the episode Homer Badman, S6 E9 on D+. Because of this specific clip being used, emp technically falls under the trap everyone in Springfield does. Thank you for coming to my over-analyzation of a simple frame from an amazing YouTube video.
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Homer probably lusts after candy
230 likes@Mortan Á. Mørk he does
38 likesOr he purposefully chose the clip as a cheeky reference
79 likesSweet can
9 likesI didn't wanna cause a fuss, but now that you mention it...
30 likesPerhaps the bit where he asks Maude to get him the peanuts at the bottom of the bowl would be better suited?
I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
8 likesThat's kinda genius, to be honest.
6 likesSweeet caaan…
2 likesDo you not get the joke that this is the easiest way to represent that in a quick span? Or are you just incredibly talented at being pretentious?
7 likesNice!
0 likesTechnically lust as a sin isn't purely sexual. It's simply intense desire for a single thing as opposed to gluttony (the desire which leads to wasteful overconsumption), greed (desire to simply possess things), or envy (the desire to have something owned by another).
7 likesHomer lusts for food in general.
1 likeYeah homer does not exactly sin every sin but does it inw says we don't normally think, in ways that are more homer like, like the candy
0 likes"The episode is about inequity." No, it isn't. There's a difference between equity and merit. The episode is about merit.
0 likesAnd it seemingly revels in Grimes, and by extension all people still fighting upwards, getting destroyed. Responsibility is turned into a joke, and now, somehow, people are surprised when people in positions that matter turn out to be irresponsible, that they no longer really care about anything but damage control. It's as if they just accepted it as a fact of life that people who try would be there. They used to be here, imperfect as they were, but look around now. Counterculture makes for a shitty establishment when it wins.
This was really the writers having an attack of conscience. Living in a society that takes the side of selfish idiot slackers because they're more relatable reveals something dark about people and their judgment of character that sarcastic writers in the late 80's didn't want to think about. They were just trying to poke holes in Reagan's America, which turned out to be the easiest thing in the world, but after the deconstruction, what's left?
Nihilism. No one has answers on how to create their ideal society, because ideal and equal aren't the same thing, and there's nowhere to go after you figure that out. Reagan's America sucked, but so does every other version of it you can imagine grounding in reality. Good video, though: this is why the Simpsons is a great show: it's the postmodern condition compressed into about 6 seasons of glorious animated narrative. They will be talking about this show in classes on corporate art appreciation a couple centuries from now, in their imperfect future.
I LOVE REAL JIMS! Best Simpsons content on Youtube
0 likesGreat video but I have to say a couple of things.
34 likes1) Homer (and everyone around him) was turned into an insufferable idiot in this episode for the sake of making a point. Homes has always been stupid, but the message ended up being ungenuine as Homer never really was a moron of THIS caliber.
2) When it comes to his relationship with Flanders in the older episodes, Homer didn't do anything do improve his status unlike Grimes. He envied Flanders for what he had, but he never did anything to deserve it in the first place. Grimes worked hard all his life and got nothing. Saying they're the same is just false.
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Fair statements to make, but Imma try to counter them with my own thoughts:
12 likes1) I consider the actions of Homer, and everyone else, to be as genuine as they can be. Grimes is the paramount factor of the episode, and imagining the story without it, as hard as it is, there are no anomalies to typical Simpson behaviour which I can detect. Everyone else appears extra moronic because they are portrayed next to Grimes, a real, logic driven person. It may have been entirely intentional that Lisa says 11 words in the whole episode, her shortest role yet (Those words being "Hi." "Okay." and "Can I go downstairs and see what Dad's doing?" The latter one literally answering her absence from a plot by being uninvolved.) The de-facto 'SMARTEST' main character of this sitcom is almost completely absent to put all attention on Grimes and his contrary life to the whimsical bullshit of Springfield. They aren't on another layer of stupidity, rather the divide between stupidity and reason grew even further apart in this episode than any other.
2) You're comparing Grimes' tenacity and ambition to Homer's envy and malice. That is not the point being made here. The point being made is that Grimes, throughout the course of the episode, has a response towards the unfairness of this life when presented a slob like Homer: he becomes more like him. A man who attempts to improve his status and believe themselves worthy of reward for their ambitions DOES NOT equal a vindication to prove those less worthy than them are undeserving. In fact, Grimes' shifts throughout the episode from a character having just worked themselves up from nothingness, focusing their whole efforts into improvement and betterment, and slowly becomes less focused on improvement and more focused on envy. Whilst Homer never had a stage of 'self improvement', one could argue that his shift is the introduction of Flanders. However, instead of appreciation and recognition which Grimes' strived for, Homer's was content and ego. There is rarely, if ever a scene of Homer plotting Flanders' demise past the one episode Emp touched on, he only hates him in the moment he appears. THAT is the distinction between Homer and Grimes. The former has something worth his time, even if unearned, to occupy him from his hostilities of envy. The latter has nothing, even if deserved, to prevent him from seeking a vendetta.
You could say that Homer's hunger was satiated through his most iconic prop: food and beer. A full belly for the round protagonist. Grimes' hunger could never be satisfied.
I think it's fair to say the character's personalities were a bit off/exaggerated in this episode for the sake of making the point. Maybe it was somewhat intentional. Like, it's one thing to have Mr. Burns not fire Homer for his shenanigans but for him to reward him for them is a little much. Anything to drive Grimes crazy, I guess. Because he was supposed to be a "real person" placed in springfield I think the writers were trying to emphasize how much crap homer gets away with scott-free that would deeply unnerve a real person. But again, I think even if that was the intent, that's still a fair criticism
5 likes@Necrotic_Farron when I first watched this episode, I wondered what would Lisa, usually a voice of the reason character, think about Grimes and his take on Homer. I guess considering how the entire family turned away from Homer after Grimes' rant, they all probably thought he had a point
2 likesAnother thing to consider, is that the episode's writer, John Swartzwelder, is a far-right libertarian who mainly saw Grimes as a self-insert. Homer was deliberately moulded to essentially become "everything that's wrong with America", a lazy, selfish gluttons who feeds of the labour of honest hard-working Americans like Grimes.
0 likesNow, unfortunately for Swartzwelder, that wasn't how most viewers ended up viewing the episode. Or Grimes for that matter, who ended up being portrayed as a delusional crank, rather than the unironic PoV character as he was intended. Grimes' failing wasn't just trying to apply "real world logic" onto the world of Springfield, but blaming his shortcomings on his peers, rather than any systemic injustices
@pointPi Do you have any sources to back up that intention, because it sounds really theoretical, especially seeing as they drove Grimes to a manic fuelled death and portrayed Homer as not just the better man in regards to social respect and humility, but also at peace of mind like Emp described. As the commentary said, he is 'zen'.
3 likesI'd highly doubt a writer would give such political adversity and symbolism of 'wrongness' to be the one most willing to compromise and change to accommodate Grimes, the rigid and breaking. That doesn't sound to me like someone who is portraying the wrongness of America themselves, but the portrayal of Right Lib bitterness.
Still, whether you have proof of this intent or not, it is a very interesting point to make, so thanks for including.
@pointPi Where does John Swartzwelder is revealed to be a far-right libertarian? I' m not surprised if he is a liberterian but I only known him to be a recluse and the Simpsons' best writer. The Simpsons overall theme is anti-authority. George Meyer and Swartzelder are the main drivers of the theme of the show. On how Simpsons writers worked, Swartzelder' s episode had the least rewrite which is 50%. The Simpsons is a team effort.
1 likeJust gotta imagine that these episodes aired during a time when our version of a streaming service was a VCR on a timer.
0 likes"Often times the greatest art dosent give us all the right answers, it makes us ask the right questions"
266 likesNever before has one line perfectly described why i love media that makes me think a little harder about what i was looking at
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I love that line so much
5 likesOh my God thank you dude for reminding me of mission hill! I always loved that show. I remember this weird kinda crudely drawn show just shows up on adult swim. Well I fell in love and wish it was successful.
1 like"All good things end at some point" "every story has to have an ending" well HOW would the Simpsons end exactly?! Would it end at season 8 with Matt saying "Simpsons are done lol bye" or how could have the Simpsons ended when most of america wanted more?
2 likesBy and far my favorite episode. Sadly I tend to be as uptight as Grimey. But I also get to be like Homer too.
0 likesI kept seeing this video in my recommended as I started watching the simpsons from the start. I always wondered what it was about the episode that could possibly make it so noteworthy. I understood as soon as I saw it.
0 likesI've somehow never heard of this episode before, what a fascinatingly good introduction to it. Also that vsauce-"eye... mdb" was perfect.
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I’m sorry to hear that you haven’t heard of this episode
84 likesIt's the closest cheater
6 likesTf2 spy guy, what are you doing here
7 likessame I have never heard of this episode but now I'm interested to watch it
0 likesJeebus, I’m the creepy old guy in the room, ain’t I? How old are you kids??! 😉😁😅
10 likes@Loco Madman 26 ...I think? I've stopped keeping track in all honesty
1 like@Ryan Boscoe Good push, nicely; you’ll live a long & happy life with that outlook.
1 likeThe whole vsauce riff was spot on honestly
4 likesHow old are you? I'm asking cause if you grew up in the 90s during the hayday of the Simpsons you would have watched this episode sooner or later.
12 likes@Epsilonsama let’s see (math isn’t my strong suit); ‘81, so.., forty? (Oh dear sweet jeebus, I really am the old man in the room).
2 likesIt’s actual slightly worse than you figure here too. In my little neck of the woods (Canada) we didn’t get “new episodes” of the Simpsons until the Mid-90’s until I had already seen the Grimes episode in syndication like maybe a 100 times (no fooling). But it’s gotta be at least two decades since I’ve seen it last, I will admit.
You're either 13yo or a martian
3 likes@сяaиky вiтсн bwahahaha...! Man, that just tickles me. Busted; my body might be 4 decades old, but I’m very immature for my age (I mean, I keep getting older, but no one is every going force me to grow up); and I’m definitely outta this world! Or maybe I’m just a space-case, feel free to make that particular judgment for yourself.
0 likesRegardless, I totally still nerd out on comics & movies like a teenaged fanboi; this is my geek-fu, and it is strong! Bwahahaha.... 😅😂🤣
@Loco Madman i was actually talking about the OP but...ok i guess 😅
1 likeOVER RATED
1 likeBest way to describe this episode.
@Synthetic Humanoid Hey-Oh! Shots fired!! 😂
1 likeLet’s see... “Synthetic Humanoid”, okay. Lemme guess, you’re more a “Treehouse of Horror” fan, aren’t you? I just have to know, what’s an under-rated episode of Simpsons look like to you?
Spy in the intel!!!
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0 likes@Loco Madman So you're a Gen Xer. How come I seem the only one to have noticed how he got the Gen X dates so spectacularly wrong? Grew up in the Nixon era? During the Vietnam war? If that were true, Gen Xers would be 60 now, yet we are around 40.
1 likeOf course we weren't born during the Nixon era, and we weren't adults in the 80s, those are the boomers.
@Kaiser Soymilk Right? Right. Gen X is roughly 40-50 now, we (at least I) squeaked in under the Gen X label.
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Loco Madman Some say 1981 is the first year of birth of the millennials, so you could be one, while I'm a late Gen X ('77).
1 like@Kaiser Soymilk There’s actually a small amount of debate about when & where the generational divide occurs. The simplest definition I’ve come across is not actually when you were born, but then you reached the legal age of majority in your country (which is why the generational divide can vary). As I reach that age before the year 2000, I therefore count not as a millennial but Gen X.
0 likesYeah, ok.... what a troll.
0 likes@Amos Hard Didn’t you read the signs? Feeding the trolls is prohibited by law! 😆
0 likeshere's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
2 likeshe's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
@The Illegitimate President I’m sure many, many vision impaired individuals might disagree! 😂😅😉
0 likesWh- how does that even happen?
0 likesI'm glad you stopped cheating :D
0 likes@GoFidoGo I don't disagree but I will say there is a real strong taste of irony in the idea of subscribing to a Disney service to watch The Simpsons...
2 likes@T Z Atleast we still have it on YouTube TV, with better cropping in some areas.
0 likesWow! If you have not, you def need to check out the first (I would say 10) seasons of the show. After that, Futurama took the mantle of the superior cartoon (and is still my favorite ever to this day). It is sad that much of the millennial and Z generations look to Family Guy as a good show. That show is literally 22 minutes of witless toilet humor with threadbare storylines punctuated by flashback jokes. The South Park episode where they critique Family Guy is actually a perfect encapsulation on everything wrong with that $hitty show
0 likes@Loco Madman I think a good rule of thumb for generational divide is if you went through your entire high school career when the world wide web was a thing, that makes you a millennial at least. Im a late Gen Xer; the WWW did not come around until my senior year in high school
0 likes@Chris Ramsey Age of majority prior to the new millennium or after. Makes it even simpler because it actually uses the millennium as a benchmark, but you do you man.
0 likes@Loco Madman age of majority? Dude i dont even know what you are trying to say. Age of what majority? At least my explanation had some context
0 likes@Chris Ramsey “The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood as recognized or declared in law.” Source, Wikipedia. Nothing like having to explain something someone less knowledgeable could have discovered for themselves with 5 seconds on Google search. It translates to, “Is it legal for you to vote, buy booze, and serve in the military of your country? If yes, you are past the Age of Majority.”
0 likesI was an legal adult before the millennium, ergo, I’m not a millennial. Does not get easier than that. Any further ways you need education? I’ll be happy to provide it.
I've worked hard every day of my life...
0 likesWhat do I have to show for it...
I feel that man
This isn’t my first time seeing this video but I just needed to say this is a gem
0 likesThis is honestly one of the greatest YouTube videos I have ever seen
1 likeWhat a masterpiece of a video. Really interesting. Thanks.
0 likes"But Before he could do that, Matt Groening had to enter hell."
1234 likesShows Los Angeles.
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Because of South Park I expected Mexico.
40 likesYeah not sure why he would bash hell like that
59 likes@Jim Thompson Because California is hell. Detroit is as well. Come to think of it, Hell seemed nicer than either the two.
47 likesI thought he was talking about the town in Michigan
5 likesFun fact Matt Groening went on Epstein's plane
8 likes@Ed Sol that’s because he’s awesome
3 likes@TVB at least hell has rules
4 likesI love Hell.
0 likes@TVB - No. California is beyond Hell.
6 likesThat's an insult to hell. The entire state of California in general is worse than hell.
19 likesHe's not wrong
2 likes@TVB sounds like you're failing to recognize that California is more than just LA and SF. I'd say California contains regions which are more or less equivalent to what you can find everywhere else in the US. Or rather it may be more succinct to say, for the majority of US towns, you can find a nearly equivalent town in California.
7 likes@Matt McConaha How much you wanna bet they’re from Texas?
5 likesi'm not american, can you explain why americans depict Los Angeles as hell?
0 likes@KND At least one reason is the crazy homeless people who will just be shooting up Heroine in the middle of the sidewalk.
2 likesI'm no expert so I'm not the best person to ask but I hope I could be of some help.
no one gets the joke here, "angeles" is angels in spanish
0 likes@Generic Commentator55 Texas is likely, but I'd say more generally that they either live in a conservative rural area or they wish they did.
2 likes@Hyper Tails the Fox I mean, there is irony in the fact that the city of angels is hell, but for the most part people would still call it hell by any other name.
0 likes@Matt McConaha yes but by the way he says "shows los angeles" implies that the irony it's that it's called los angeles, not that is considered hell
0 likes@Hyper Tails the Fox it's a feasible joke, but I'm not convinced it was the joke he was going for.
1 like@Matt McConaha ok
0 likes@Marcos Cárdenas And yet I'm willing to bet they're living happier lives than you are.
0 likes@Marcos Cárdenas Alright, Why do you say that?
0 likesPS. Sorry if I came off too, 'punchy' I guess, It's just you came off as rather arrogant and I... I didn't want waist my time going on a tyraid berating you for statement. Although my retort really wasn't helping matters either.
So in short, My appologies, that was rather rude of me. Now please go on and explain your thinking.
@Jim Thompson if you say so
0 likes@Ed Sol the gamer plane
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@NoobedNate there will never be a powerback like Earl Campbell
0 likes@Jim Thompson Yeah but do u know Gilles Villeneuve?
0 likes"california scary brown peepul. bad."
0 likes@mannhouse Why do you say that?
0 likes@mannhouse wow really nailed us there, not like Texas where I was born has a massive Hispanic and Latino population, or North Carolina where I currently live has a massive Black problem, in reality you probably live in a mostly or all white area and there is a black area that Californians disregard like Compton or Oakland
3 likes@Jim Thompson Jesus dude, Let him back up his statement or explain his thinking before you crucify him like that.
0 likes@Jordonus no mercy for Californians
2 likes@Jim Thompson You've made me chuckle good sir.
0 likesBut in all Seriousness, I would like him to explain his reasoning for commenting something like that.
Who knows, maybe he gives us something to think about.
@KND the other reasons being, the politicians there make horrendous policy decisions that tend to spread to the rest of the US. It's also a syndrome where only the cities rule, and the other areas get the shaft
4 likes@minty_ Thesaurus04 I was linked the exact same video by another guy.
0 likes1. The reason I made the comment was because I found the joke Emp Lemon made to be funny. Nothing more, nothing less. I was not asking people to link me this video.
2. A lack of happiness could be from literally anything. People could be unhappy for all of the previously stated reasons. But they could also be unhappy because they lost an election.
Maybe they're unhappy because they don't like the direction that the country is heading.
Maybe they're unhappy because they don't think they're properly being represented by their government and are being ridiculed by Mass media on a daily basis.
3. I haven't been to LA, I've been to Florida, but that was when I was much younger and not really thinking yet, so I won't pretend to be an expert, or even heavily informed, on these things.
But I will politely ask for any other sources you've got, because if it's just that one guy, then while tested, I remain unconvinced.
@minty_ Thesaurus04 Alright. I get your point about the substance abuse and what not.
1 likeI personally would consider the lack of a college degree to be a good thing because, to me, that would imply that they at least have agency, and chose to go their own way as opposed to buying into a system which has time and again screwed over many other individuals who were simply doing what they were told.
Also, a question that just popped into my head, are these surveys including illegal immigrants, More specifically the drug cartels and trafficking peeps?
I don't want to paint with broad strokes, but if we're including that, then I wouldn't consider that to be the fault of the red states, it could be the fault of an unsuccessful border policy.
An unsuccessful border policy from 2014. Because that's when the video and article were uploaded.
Granted, the article was updated in December of 2017, so almost an entire year into the Trump presidency, but Surges of immigrants isn't something that can be controlled, it's how many get in that is the question, and to my knowledge, Donald didn't let too many illegals in.
And even then, I don't know what was edited or changed. For all I know, they could've just corrected some spelling errors.
If I'm wrong, please correct me, I'd actually like to keep talking to you because I think we've got a constructive conversation goin' here.
I promise you, it’s hell out here. Beautiful, full of fun, but so expensive and gilded in myth 🥴
1 like@Kevin Mason You have my sympathy. I hope it gets better soon.
0 likesActually, I think it firstly is a bit overrated for some weird psychological reasons (a kind of soppiness the internet likes), it is good but doesn't necessarily stand above many classic episodes. Secondly, and more importantly, I think it is actually one of the episode types or modes that is most likely to reoccur and that is most present in modern Simpsons... A quasi-serious drama, where jokes fall to the wayside (it wasn't like that there, but is so now), and the plot is overconstrued and some kind of serious point (including some completely personal point about a character) is tried way too hard.
0 likesThat is, they don't make episodes that live up to it, but it's definitely one of the episodes that is particularly similar to modern Simpsons.
The Rev Lovejoy saying 'Grimes...or Grimey as he liked to be called' had me pmsl as a kid and it still hits hard.
0 likesMe: haha, simpsons funny
6 likesThis guy, an intellectual:
What's almost scary is that I myself feel almost the same way that Grimes does towards nearly every person I see (but for reasons unlike Grimes). Even when I see everyone driving new vehicles, and I'm lucky that the one I'm driving is still running. Sometimes it seems like everyone is wealthy but me. It instantly gives me an attitude towards most people. Though I never show it.
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I drove my used rent-a-car for years until the transmission finally gave out. I began making payments on a brand new car after that, but was only able to do so because my mother had died rather suddenly and left me some money.
0 likesNot knowing that, you would see my new car as a sign that I have some level of success. The reality is that I suffered a crippling lose, and would rather have my mother back.
Point is, reality isn't always what it seems to be. Ultimately you're just comparing yourself to what you imagine other people's lives are like, and then getting mad about what you imagined.
@C-RT That's a good point. Though sometimes you can just tell when a person is wealthy. Not only from their vehicles, but even where they live (and how well landscaped they are) etc. Even my own truck was just given to me by my dad a couple months before he died. I might be just riding a bicycle right now if it wasn't for that. I've always had problems with envy. It's one of my downfalls. I avoid people when they're too successful or wealthy. I hold grudges towards people I don't even know. Hehe. I know I should just be grateful for what I do have, and stop comparing myself with others. But it's hard.
0 likesWork like Frank Grimes at the things you love like hobbies or whatever your true passion is in life, work like Homer Simpson at everything else.
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Exactly
23 likesThis is my favorite quote ever I'm gonna live by this
22 likesYeah, that's a really good one
4 likesEven if society depends on your services or if you work with nuclear materials. Good advice, bro.
19 likesNot everyone lives the kind of life where they can afford to slack off at everything they don't absolutely love. Some people have bosses that know what they're doing, others have jobs or obligations that they might not enjoy doing but are necessary to do well for the safety and well being of others.
15 likes@Remember to take showers please yeah by “work like homer” I meant give the absolute minimum energy to ensure everything’s working properly if you don’t like or feel a sense of accomplishment from your job.
28 likesOfc you’re not literally gonna be sleeping on the job if you’re working at a nuclear plant and don’t like your job.
You’re a modern day philosopher
1 likeThis video feels like what English teachers want you to learn from a single sentence but better worded
1 likeThe title is true bc Grimes is the one man who went out of his way to point out Homer's lack of competence, just to be told to his face that people don't care. He's astounded at the crazy amount of privilege that Homer has, and probably shouldn't have.
0 likesBc no matter how hard ppl like Grimes work to achieve what they want, there is always a Homer who just gets things handed to him.
BRAVO...MAY THE SIMPSON LIVE ON FOREVER!!!!
0 likesEven Simpson’s today I find to be still good and can still give me a chuckle. Sure they are not the same, but I don’t think they suck either. Some people just say they suck worhiut watching it
0 likesHomer was never his enemy, the system that valued Homer more was his enemy.
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Amen! Idk how people still think we live in a meritocracy. Even emp after all that analysis chalks up fairness to just random chance and ignores every social factor that plays into success/failure. We gotta fix the system in order to fix ourselves.
56 likes@Matthew Completely missing the point of the video. Amazing. You'll make a fine activist
38 likes@Matthew Wait, there's a part of the video that states it's wrong to identify success/failure with your own worth and also relating it to your wealth. Minute 22:30 more or less, whe he starts talking about 'The death of a salary man'.
9 likes@Matthew As Emp points out Homer is Noble because he is abusing the system not fighting against it. I Feel like in the long term enough Homers are like termites to society gnawing away at the inside of the system to eventually force change. If a Termite tried to take over someone's house it would be squashed.
30 likes@Flying Chimp I don't think that's a fair assessment. Homer more effectively embraces nihilism than anything else, and realistically if everyone was nihilist, and while aspiration does often lead to disappointment, nihilism just as equally leads to general decay. You can't have innovation or improvement if the best you'll get from the world is an embracing of mediocrity, or in the very least a lack of care for anything outside of your own life. If you care about how Matt feels, you're just as equally the point of contention made in that episode as you state matt to be; focused on the wishes of others, and not simply satisfied with yourself.
31 likesIf you want to embrace the practicalities of the episode, your critique of others becomes effectively unnecessary, because worrying about others becomes unnecessary, because the outcome of others beyond those directly connected to the outcome of your own life are irrelevant. Unless of course, you aren't a nihilist.
@Extra Crispy nihilism is truth, nothing we do matters so why not shoot for the stars because in reality in the grand scheme of things we have nothing to lose. What can be more motivating then that to risk as much as you can to improve current situations if not the environment at least your own.
9 likesYou....you are grime, my friend!
0 likes@CraftyArts Most people grow out of Nihilism when they reach their 30s or so. Mostly because at that point they've actually experienced enough of the world that they've been talking shit about their whole lives and realized the bullshit of such a mindset in a vacuum
14 likes@Familia Youtuber You have to accept nihilism and at the same time act as if it doesnt exist. It is true. But believing it to be true and acting as if it is so will not help you in any way shape or form. It is one of the few forms of truth that is not useful.
10 likes@Shaun Robinson Yeah, kinda only useful when trying to be a smartass about stuff. Being right does not make that kind of interactions where your argument or passion is called irrelevant less annoying
0 likes@Familia Youtuber What do you mean?
0 likes@Shaun Robinson It may just be me, but I've had my fair share of interactions where, mid conversation/argument, someone just pulls a dc;da or nihilism to try and stop instead of either changing mind or elaborating further, it's a bit of a non-argument because it's just a fact of life turned get out of jail free card
6 likesEverybody is happy in Springfield, the system is working as intended. Grimes was just too up tight and entitled, believing he was owed some level of reverence within his personal value system, failing to consider the world outside of his own beliefs. this video analysis misses this entirely.
2 likes@CraftyArts Nihilism is an admission of defeat in a meaningless universe. You never were supposed to have any goal from the start, but if you wanted to believe in religion, you could. You could choose to make meaning out of your existence, make your own and the lives of others a bit more meaningful, but you instead chose to dismiss that possibility and instead chose to believe that any venture into meaning is a waste, or worse yet a delusion. Sure you could believe this, but it's not going to make you anything other than depressed.
5 likesBesides, it's impossible to know what lies beyond death, or what tomfoolery exists beyond this life, if there even is anything beyond it - who'd know? nobody's really come back from being fully dead to tell us how things have gone for them. The whole aspect of the brain experiencing hallucinations during these moments of cardiac arrest in hospitals, or whatever else tend to make any reproducibility and accuracy as well.
You're best off worrying about finding a place for yourself in this short existence of yours, and making it as meaningful as possible. Otherwise, your enjoyment of life will be tainted by your edgy 12 year old syndrome philosophy values.
@Flying Chimp The point of the video is for emp to share his reasons why he thinks there would never ever be an episode like this. It’s a video essay my guy. Just cause you really like/agree with his analysis doesn’t make it correct or even the only way to look at it. You make a fine sheep my friend :)
2 likes@Evan 2 electric boogaloo lol I like your analogy with that and I totally get what you mean. Idk how serious you’re taking this cause it’s a YouTube comment but to me, there’s too many people who can’t be a homer/termite because they just trying to survive. Fighting against the status quo will bring the house down faster than exploiting it, sitting back and letting it run its course and letting people suffer.
2 likes@CraftyArts that sounds like the opposite of nihilism lol. Nihilistic people wouldn’t shoot for the stars cause nothing matters. But I mean hey, I would rather ppl be hopeful and call it nihilism than actually nihilistic
2 likes@E I didn’t, the point is for emp to share his reasons on why there won’t be an episode like this again. This isn’t the “true hidden meaning”, it’s one mans opinion and we are allowed to disagree with it you sheep on a stick lol
2 likes@Matthew look up "optimistic nihilism" sometime
1 like@Axileus I ain’t even consider that, that’s a pretty good analysis. I think that can draw a lot of parallels between how he functions in Springfield and how people irl conduct themselves with political ideologies. When people get too entrenched in an ideology they will never be able to step back and think of the world outside of their own perspective.
0 likes@Matthew Look up "optimistic nihilism" I guess another way to describe the state of mind is that for many people don't bother trying things over fear of loss or failure. Or they settle for the bare minimum because they think there is some afterlife awaiting after they die. Sometimes (stress sometimes) you get the "mirror effect" as a result where people look at their own lack of success and then degrade others who have success (depends on how you measure success for yourself of course). Though without talking further a good book to look into is "The subtle art of not giving a F*ck"
1 likeThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Matthew ya, that sums up what I believe as well.
1 likegrowing up with the simpsons, my view is that it dealt with events that were happening at the ime, and even had a point of view toward ideology from time to time, but the simpsons family and their personalities made the show.
Writers used hot button issues to give characters room to develop their personality, not the reverse.
The boy down a well episode is one of the most memorable episodes, maybe the best episode of the series. Mass hysteria is generated with almost no input from any one person, aside from a boy's prank blown out of proportion. At the finale Bart learns an invaluable lesson in honesty.
In this way the simpsons is a modern telling of Mark Twain. Twain and the simpsons both honour individual human personalities and personal relationships.
@Evan 2 electric boogaloo lmso no Homer keeps the system going jsut barely enough because he doesnt give neough of a shit to want change, its a terrible outlook
1 like@Matthew Idk why people in the comments don't see it this way, systemic issues are definitely important here. If everyone just sat back and kept working instead of trying to change things we would still be laboring in fields for feudal lords. Sure, lots of issues and are because life isn't fair. That's understandable. But some things are, in fact, within our power to change if we actually take action and work together. Homer's approach is not perfect, nor is Grimes. And I love EmpLemon's work, but he is not the arbiter of truth, this is an opinion piece.
5 likesyep profit driven inequality and its systemic imbalance
0 likes@CraftyArts That would be a contradiction, though. If nihilism is true, how can an environment be "improved?" There is no real existing standard that a situation can be improved or progressed toward. A standard of goodness would just be puffs of breath or ink on a page, nothing more.
0 likesexcellent point!
0 likeshere's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
he's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
Correction: the system is his enemy because it values him less than any other person
1 likeIt’s a Saturday night, I’m in college, and here I am watching a 40 minute long video about a Simpsons episode from the nineties
0 likesNice deep dive into this episode, thanks for posting it
0 likesDamn this was really good. The only thing that makes me more impressed with the Simpsons is that there is a clip that corresponds to literally every single thing he says. Very impressive that you were able to do this.
0 likes4:43 responsible and virtuous rolemodels...I see what you did there 😂
0 likesThe thing about this episode is that it puts me on both sides equally, homers just having fun with life but is unaware of his laziness and grimes is a hard worker but he pushes his issues onto homer when he is completely unaware
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The thing about this episode, to me, is that a lot of people miss the point. Grimes isn't a good guy, nor should he represent you.
45 likesGrimes is a materialistic person that only focuses on what he sees. His entire breakdown on the Simpsons' House emphasizes this, since all of Grimes' points are easily countered. "You guys live in an extremely big, amazing house" (Except EVERYBODY in Springfield has a house that's that big, and the Simpsons' House specifically was bought by ruining Abe's life and it's also usually in complete disrepair), "You have an amazing family that you don't deserve" (Homer, atleast back then, was probably one of the sweetest men on America), "Your wire is beautiful" (She isn't, according to most people, and she also has HEAVY anger management problems), "Your daughter is too intelligent" (That isn't a bad thing at all), "Your son owns a factory" (Not only was he not weirded out by this, he also considers it a bad thing).
Grimes focuses his anger on Homer when Homer is, ironically, the last person who deserves it. He's by far one of the nicest people in Springfield even if he does have his bad days, he's constantly in poverty (Roasting on an Open Fire, anyone?), and he's an intelligent man that stays stupid because the town prefers him that way (HOMR). Grimes may have had a tragic childhood, but that doesn't allow him to disrespect anybody he wants (Especially Homer, who had an even worse childhood). And even if he was that stupid and unjustly rewarded, there are many people who deserve to be called "What's wrong with America" more than Homer. What about Wiggum? Quimby? And the person ruling over the entire power plant who's established as a complete cheapskate? Grimes throws all his rage at Homer because he's a coward and can't bare to directly get through Burns' bullshit. And the irony is that Homer ADMIRES Grimes, and tries to get close to him just to be friends, but Grimes' damaged ego pushes him to the brink of insanity, when ironically he was at the perfect place to live in since Springfield has so little safely regulations he could just act like Homer and get away with it. It's pretty similar to Sideshow Bob's case, where rather than try to take down Krusty until he manages to, he attacks Bart because of revenge. Except Bob atleast KNOWS Bart, Grimes just puts Homer as the walking representation of a lazy idiot within a few days of knowing him. Grimes doesn't represent the downtrodden citizen, he represents the petty squabbler who assumes someone innocent represents a pure stereotype and creates a strawman, rather than trying to go against the people who deserve to be punished.
TL, DR: Grimes doesn't see the forest for the trees. He's too focused on beating someone else down, despite not having any idea about their personal life, instead of going against the system. He also has a massive ego, leading to him not using the opportunity that Springfield's lack of regulations gives. Is he relatable? Yes, but in the worst way possible. Grimes represents our inner ego and blindness, and should not be appealed towards.
@TragedyplusTime I don't know if I want to take advantage of the lack of regulations. I don't feel comfortable selling cockroach puree for sandwich filling. The problem with your last statement is that Springfield as a place doesn't operate in real life. The fact that Springfield abandons its previous location after Homer botched his job as the city's trashman hammers home they are not representative of a real-life city. They are at best a setting for a sitcom where situations like Ned Flanders being run over by a police car as a side gag has no lasting consequences. The way I see it, Frank Grimes is an expy of us in the real world showing how we cannot live in a toon world with their inexplicable impossibilities...
4 likes@TragedyplusTime when grimes was talking about his family, he didn't say that stuff as if it was a bad thing. He meant the opposite. He was pointing out that Homer had all these good things but he's lazy and doesn't work hard enough to deserve any of it
17 likes@pooper dooper That's what I was saying lmao, Grimes only sees the good in Homer's family yet only sees the bad in Homer himself
2 likesAlso Homer may be lazy but he's been a much better father than Grimes would ever be, yet Grimey thinks of himself so highly that he bitches about Homer without even knowing him
@TragedyplusTime but do you realize the creators were not creating The Simpsons as role models? You do realize that this is entertainment right? Do you think that the writers feel that people should act like the characters in The Simpsons? I think you and the person who analyzed this video are both pushing your political agendas off of a comedy cartoon series.... instead of just enjoying it for what it is, entertainment.
3 likeswell, now you're off the rails
2 likesthis isn't "just entertainment", nothing valuable is
this is social criticism, they did not make The Simpsons to create role models, but to depic the role models we had irl and understand how we can laugh at ourselves and our own flaws through a fictional show
I don't know if I want to be like Homer, but I'm sure I don't want to be like Grimes. The show was, once again, making us look at ourselves and think if that is how we want to be. And if that isn't social criticism, I don't know what is
@Gabriel López I think you have it slightly the other way around. I wouldn't say 180, degrees but let's say 140. Do you really think the writers are anything like Homer Simpson? The episode was saying why the hell does an ignorantly Blissful person get to get somewhere in life while not really giving a s*** about other people besides himself, while your Average hard worker who is AWARE of his surroundings gets so pissed off at the injustice of it all, trying to do things the right way, that he winds up going overboard. So yes, I think the episode was about saying that these aren't role models, it is just entertainment, and if you think that the Simpsons family reflected the average American family at the time, well, I don't know what ideological or political background you come from, but my very first impression was definitely not familiarity. Again, it's entertainment. But the protagonist in the story was not Homer, it was Grimes. But unfortunately he took it too far.
0 likes@Gabriel López and I agree it was definitely social criticism, but Who side are you on? Homers?? I think the writers actually wanted you to be on Grimes side....
0 likes@CeeStyleDj So much so that by the end everyone laughed at his funeral
2 likes@CeeStyleDj Read my comment, Homer cares for his family much more than himself whereas Grimes is an envious prick, and targets the supposed "Wrong american" instead of the executive.
0 likesThe writers HAD to be on Homer's side. By this point, Homer's character was very developed. His backstory (Which nullifies Grimes' tragic upbringing), his motivations, and most important his beef with Ned. The only way the writers could write an episode like this and be on Frank's side is if they didn't watch all the previous seasons, or were huge hypocrites towards Homer.
I can’t believe he went through this entire video without mentioning Graggle Simpson? He may have had like 1 or 2 scenes, but he embodied the heart of the show.
3 likesI don't think the word is fairness. For Grimey, he's obsessed with meritocracy. He, like everyone else who has ever laboured, is in love with the idea that his hard work is worth something meaningful, and that he, or humanity at large, will benefit holistically from his hard work. The realisation that it hasn't, and won't is completely maddening.
2 likesThe socio-economic doom spiral of living in our time is absurd. People need stories of justice, fairness, and meritocracy to accept the system that they live within, maintain, and can never escape. Homer's retreat is ignorance, but not everyone is afforded that blessing.
That concept is visited in Season 12, Episode 9 when Homer gains average intelligence and has his own grimesian nightmare, faced with a world gone mad.
When all you want are memes but end up getting an existential essay on life itself.
1 likeYou Only Move Twice has overtaken Homer's Enemy as IMDB's highest rated Simpsons episode.
0 likesThe Simpsons have lived long enough to see themselves become the villain.
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You only become the villain if the people change their minds about you. The people are deflecting responsibility and blame and need a scapegoat...think about it.
8 likes@Mutsu Hanma no
9 likes@Mutsu Hanma If you have to end your own argument with "think about it" then you didn't make a compelling argument.
7 likes"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
3 likes@Mutsu Hanma Did you know that there's a direct correlation between the decline of Spirograph and the rise in gang activity? Think about it.
2 likesAt least it goes with bang before being a villain.
0 likesI remember "Life in Hell" from the Los Angeles Reader. I just looked it up, and I just found out that another strip it carried, "The Angriest Dog in the World", was written by David Lynch.
4 likesResponsible and virtuous role models (zooms in on bill Cosby) S tier comedy.
1 likeIn a way, the Simpsons is kinda like a simulation of the real world
0 likesDude, I didn't even make it passed the "Keeps" add at the start and you've already got me. PRIMO choice of backdrop for that, made me say "Holy shit!" out loud, pause the video and leave this comment.
0 likesGood job!
This episode made me cry as a child, and when I went to my parents for comfort... much to their chagrin and my embarrassment I couldn't even explain why. Thank you for reminding me that exists, and thank you even more for taking the time to explain why it had so much more of an impact on me than every other Simpsons episode. The Simpsons can never be described as unimpactful, they often made me feel sympathy, or feel sonder, or laugh so hard I fell off the couch and couldn't breathe, but no other episode did make me run crying to my parents at the unfairness of the world.
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lmao bro quit stunning, you cried as a child over this episode? I doubt it 😞
4 likes@Estin Sidebottom they just wish they were given half this much attention as a child, ignore them. Also using caps before every word is a terrible habit to get into, I promise from experience.
10 likes@Ullapool Caber Thank You For Your Response. I'll Keep That In Mind.
6 likesMy god, it's chilling how much the "generation x" section of this video parallels what it's been like growing up over the last 2 decades...
0 likesThis is the first time I have watched a video on this channel and my god this is just brilliant!
0 likesIve never got an exastential crisis from a cartoon until now
2 likesThe Simpsons is one of my top 2 favorite TV shows!
0 likesI worked with a Homer Simpson once. Not a bad guy per se, just a really apathetic worker. Despite this, he not only managed to stay employed, but he had a higher pay than everybody else in the department just because of his seniority
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Life crushed his enthusiasm. Your turn will come.
16 likes@Tufty 70 nah
24 likes"Of course, old Homer, he didn't need a degree. He just showed up the day they opened the plant."
31 likes- Lenny
This is part of why I quit my union job. It can be too easy to sleepwalk through life.
6 likes38:30 Woah . This ending is masterful
0 likesReally needed to hear this message today. Thanks for the time and effort.
0 likesF A N T A S T I C episode though, capital ideas well executed
0 likesThis might be the most entertaining video I’ve ever watched.
3 likesWhen emplemon posts a new vid, tears of joy roll down your eyes because no matter what he’s talking about it’s still attention grabbing and super entertaining.
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are your tear ducts on top of your eyeballs?
4 likesmight wanna get that checked
...I'm mean.
Agreed, I saw this and thought "oh dang, I know what I'm watching later, maybe I'll just see a bit now."
1 likeIt's been about 45 minutes since I thought that, having now watched the entire thing.
This long video about a classic The Simpsons episode has racked up over 2.5 million views in 6 months? I'm definitely watching it!
0 likeswell, this was much deeper than my brain expected to go into. 😳
0 likes18:00 no we shouldn’t. Homer’s enemy is just a resentful spineless worm. I’ve got no sympathy for grimes.
0 likes24:55 👏🏽 really good analysis.
28:06 lololololololol
wow, that was awesome. thanks for making this.
0 likesWhen you described everything Gen x went through, it really puts into perspective how messed up the world always is, it's not like all this crazy stuff going on today is unique to us, its just as generations go by we dont like talking about the bad things
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Unless it happens to others, like WW2 and Dracula documentaries.
11 likes"Every generation must know its own suffering."
33 likes- Boris Shcherbina, Chernobyl
Nah things are spiralling out of control now, this world is about to explode
8 likes@Trippa Snippa say that when the entire world is going to war and you are first in line. I'd take the pandemic over ww2 any day actually
8 likes@JustanEdityGangstar And I'd take World War 1 and 2 over the coming climate crisis.
2 likesIf you showed someone from the 1930 the world today they would think and apocalypse happened
1 like@Trippa Snippa there's this song from the 60's called "eve of destruction" by Barry Mcguire, it's also about the world exploding (it literally has a line in there "the eastern world it is exploding") like listening to the lyrics it sounds eerily current. you just need to change a few words and you'd have a modern day protest song. everything from racial tensions in the US to global politics involving stuff like the middle east or tensions with China it's all in there. even the space race gets mentioned which also seems to have come around again with all these billionaires and their space programs.
3 likesin any case listening to this song makes me feel better in a weird way. the world has always been on the verge of destruction yet we're all still here. think it's kind of a case of same shit different day TBH.
worth a listen IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu0alU0I
@Zwenk Wiel Sounds very interesting, i just think you cannot teeter on the edge for too long. Eventually we will fall it is inevitable and the way society and the world is now, nothing makes sense anymore
1 likeIt was pretty much just the 90s that were alright.
0 likesThat's also why the music was so bad in the 90:.
well, you see, back before 1990, people had a reason to be afraid and real issues with social justice. Today, people have taken first world problems from being a meme, to a way of life.
0 likes@Zwenk Wiel Hate your next-door neighbour, but don't forget to say grace..
1 like@Alex Willis This is way more accurate than I am comfortable admitting.
0 likesI hate when americans say "the world". It wasn't and it isn't like this everywhere
1 likeI watched The Simpsons on a bad reception, so for me they were actually green half the time
0 likesThis episode marked the start of "Jerk Ass" Homer, I believe. He's annoying as hell, and I totally sympathised with Grimes.
0 likes34:13 why is this man standing SO confidently, he looks like a reskined final boss in a cutscene
1 likeThe Simpsons fought the system so hard, only to become part of the system themselves
0 likesThe main issue between Homer and Grimes is that Grimes, as you said, has this concept of fairness and when things are unfair he takes out his anger on Homer; but fairness isn't random. In the case of Homer and Grimes, they are co-workers, working for the same boss, Mr. Burns. The fact that Grimes protests the unfairness of how different workers are treated and what they get shows the arbitrary nature of what that workplace really is, and how the man who runs it is. Burns is completely indifferent to the details of his employees; they're all replaceable to him, and he has all the power in the dynamic. Grimes is demanding a moral standard to an institution which can define its own standards of morality, and in this case, it's indifferent arbitrariness. Grimes should be upset at Burns, not Homer. Homer isn't the cause of Grimes' misfortunes; Burns is. But Grimes never considers this bigger picture, instead fighting against his fellow worker because he believes fundamentally in this concept of morality that doesn't exist in the workplace, and never has. Grimes believes a fairy tale; Homer realizes his situation and thus has no allegiance to the false idea of hard work being rewarded by someone who is indifferent to it.
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A lot of wage slaves get upset at the idea that their taxes pay social welfare for someone who isn't working. Non workers are often seen as the scum of society. The upset should be at corporations and billionaires hiring accountants to use every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes.
37 likes@Paul Kelly Get a job hippie
3 likes@Paul Kelly I think I can be equally mad at the bureaucrat and state legislature that taxes me and middle America while also being in bed with big business
1 likeThings are bad because the people who were supposed to govern over the market have been seduced by the merchants, most elected officials become part of the 1%
The idea that resenting welfare is some misguided anger that should be reserved for the rich is a derivative explanation for a position that many people hold and would be willing to break down for you if you listen
@PodreyJenkin138
0 likesI pretty much agree with your first two paragraphs, with the wealthy’s tax avoidance and evasion, and offshoring of profits, the middle class does bear a disproportionate tax burden compared to the GDP distribution.
However, I can’t see how that ties into resenting welfare, as if welfare policies ended, it wouldn’t hurt the wealthy and would only hurt the poor, who are also getting screwed-over anyway. So I would suggest desiring and advocating for a rework of tax brackets rather than resenting welfare, personally. (Especially since corporate welfare and military expenditures vastly outnumber those social programmes.)
@Kaitlyn L no they don't, social programs are the largest budget expenditure at least in the US and has been for decades, this is not for discussion this is a fact based upon the self published budget reports by the treasury department and congress
0 likeswhat's amazing is that the length of this one video about a single episode is about two episode length of Simpson's episode.
0 likesO Lordy me how excellent an analysis is this! It could be a book
0 likesI kind of find it good they set up that Frank Grimes had a son but they never use him after the episode he was introduced in
0 likesthis is without a doubt the best youtube video I've ever watched. I have no clue how else to explain or describe why
0 likesHomer's enemy is down right mean spirited, it doesn't end with any sort of lesson to be learned or positive message, in fact it does the opposite. It subverts a big rule in general story telling of "If you work hard you'll be rewarded"
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It does end with a positive message, don't compare yourself to others and live life peacefully
0 likesPeople who treat Grimes as the hero forget how much of a prick he is, how quickly he assumes Homer's lack of merit just because of a job he may not even like (He doesn't), and how he goes straight against the innocent worker instead of the corrupt executive, Burns. That's why he died being ridiculed.
@TragedyplusTime my man, I think you didn't get the point of the episode. It is supposed to be mean, it is supposed not to teach the viewer anything. The message of this episode is "being a piece of sh*t lazy asshole is way better than being a hard worker". At least inside the Simpson universe.
0 likesIt's making fun of the classic moral trope lesson that has been beaten into out heads since childhood. Take the 3 little pigs for example. This episode is like if somehow the first 2 lazy pigs are rewarded for being lazy and the last one is punished for being inteligent and hard working, and while he gets eaten by the wolf, his brothers somehow by accident become rich and live nicely. It subverts the expected morality, which is why Simpsons was considered counter cultural back then
20:20 quite possibly my favorite line in a YouTube video
0 likesFrank Grimes was Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker before Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, but with less homicidal tendencies.
2 likesthe reason why homers enemy hits so hard is because it says something everybody allready knows is true but is afraid to say
0 likesthe american dream is a lie
I love when two creators I already love collaborate.
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SILENCE VERIFIED
17 likesEmperorLemon I know your based 25:29 to 25:34 have you ever considered its just inheritably in their being to be worse
7 likesWell this comment chain took an abrupt swerve!
6 likesThis, realjim is really underrated, i really like his content, even if i dont agree with all of his takes
6 likes@SUS Before you cry foul take a good long look at modern day Africa and think for a moment why it's like that
5 likes@Asepsis Aficionado being boned repeatedly through history, from within and without?
5 likesHey, it's that youtuber that I like!
1 likeNeat
@Nocansee green In what way? Sub-Saharan Africa was largely untouched by outsiders up until the 1400s. African people were stretched and scattered across the massive continent, having relatively little contact with each other and leaving entire territories unexplored (such as modern day South Africa) until settlers arrived (transportation being very difficult since Africans lacked domesticated riding animals and seaworthy boats). And frankly, I would wager that foreign settlers were only a boon for them when it comes to technological progress.
6 likesEvery ethnic group can make up their own oppression narrative based on some historical conflict. But you have to ask yourself how Africa still manages to be so technologically stunted to this day. Imperialism is over with, slavery is outlawed nearly everywhere except Africa itself, and the West has donated trillions of dollars to them in the naïve hope that we could elevate these countries to our level. At the end of the day, a country is a product of its people.
@Nocansee green I haven't reached that part of the video yet but what's happened to Africa has happened to more or less every country at some point. Colonialism is part of it but by no means the whole story.
6 likesIndia was colonized too, maybe even worse than the africans got it (Then again, their occupation was not necessarily negative in a local progress and living standards sense), and they're currently doing noticably better than anyone in Africa, even Ethiopia
4 likesAlso people who go "muh colonializm bad" also tend to forget that Ethiopia, never touched by colonizers except briefly by fascist occupation in the late 1930s, isn't doing much better than anywhere else in Africa.
At least I'm pretty sure that the italian occupation of ethiopia came to an end when they lost the war, I think they only got to keep libya, but I could be wrong on that. WW2 is not my preferred time of study in history
hmmm, yeah
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Cope Harder based as fuck, good comment King
0 likes"duhhh muh superior huwhite race and shieet"
2 likes18:13 "Lust" is definitely not a sin that homer is guilty of. He he is reaching for the gummy Venus stuck on the babysitters butt; he is in fact so overcome with his gluttonous urges that he is oblivious to the female posterior before him. He also resisted the urge to sleep with his attractive coworker Mindy who threw herself at him. I'd actually say that he epitomize the top 4 sins, but not the bottom 3.
0 likesI think what this episode shows is how the economy has changed. In the past in the US a hard worker could dream about buying their own house, have a car, etc, etc... but now a days, (or even then that episode was released) hard working class, or even people with high education degrees struggle to get what in the past was standard for mid class, now students have a lot of debt, salaries are low compared to inflation so, buying a house is not a plan anymore... it is a dream
0 likes"But in a way, all of us live in Springfield."
2 likesMe, a european: "Haha yes, relatable"
Showing homer simpson with hair is such a strong image to go with a keeps ad
1 like"You went to outer space? YOU?"
159 likes"Sure. You've never been?"
Great episode, one of those episodes that's in everyone's top 10
5:05 Jeez, it's no wonder my mom was goth in her teen years. (Then again, I was unsociable (this hasn't changed much) and a fan of Green Day and all of those moody 2000s bands like Blue October, Fallout Boy and Panic! at the Disco in my teen years so I'm not one to talk, though the reasons behind it are entirely different)
4 likesAlso, now that I think about it, it's disturbing how history repeated itself for both us millennials and the zoomers. Save for the "threat of nuclear annihilation" part because no one in their right mind believes Kim Jong-un has the cojones to actually fire one and I don't remember that remotely being a thing when I was growing up. The USSR had dissolved when I was just four years old and the cold war had ended when I was two years old.
Wasnt... expecting Rusty Cage at the end...
0 likesNow I have to go binge his channel.
You should do a video on season 1 episode 9, where Marge is considering having an affair. Her and Homer have a midlife crisis because their marriage is failing, and it starts to affect Bart, Lisa, and Maggie (probably) as well.
2 likesOne thing I didn’t even notice until now: at 28:03 we can see Homer is asleep during the funeral lol
0 likes"In the end, his obsession with fairness ultimately drives him mad."
423 likesProbably one of the most relevant lines in the entire video imo. It can be applied to so many groups of people today from multiple political persuasions, left, right, and center.
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Literally Do My Parcour in bumpyball
2 likesthank you for this wonderful enlightened centrist take
23 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink the funny thing is, I don't consider myself a centrist, and like I said, I would even apply this line of thinking to some centrists themselves.
37 likesThat's just militant political activism in a nutshell. Anyone can take things too far. Forgive me for generalizing a bit, but so many people these days aren't civil anymore. All they care about is beating their opposition and pushing their agenda, which entirely defeats the purpose of civic debate. We shouldn't be treating politics like its a sport.
38 likesI'd say this hyper competition isn't a new thing, exclusive to "these days" either, it's always an inevitability, in a sense. The obsession of fairness had been one that has essentially existed forever, as one is always comparing themselves to another. Wars of conquest, reform, the French Revolution revolve around fairness. The United States and even totalitarian states such as the Soviet Union, and the German Reich(In a Racist Sense, fairness as a privilege for only germans), had/have this obsession. It's a universal to want to be treated equally, to be treated "fairly". But like many things, fairness is arbitrary, undefined, and by extension of this, conflicts surrounding fairness are inevitable.
12 likes@milesperhour did you unironically just say that the german reich revolved around "fairness?" wtf?
0 likes@Mallow Perhaps I judged you too harshly. This line of thinking is literally the centrist motto. "Oh both sides are bad and both do bad things so to be fair i won't support either." In other words, yeah i agree with you.
4 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink Not in the traditional sense of course, moreso a freakish racist anti-semitic one. "Fairness" for germans only. Obviously horrible. Sorry for confusion, I should have clarified or made my point clearer. I see now how it could have been misinterpreted.
1 like@milesperhour ah, alright, you good then. Although tbf the point of a democracy is to make things as fair as possible, especially in a governmental sense
2 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink And no one should be civil with a Communist. Right now, the left is dominated with people that want to radically change or destroy everything in an attempt to "level the playing field" and also cling to ideals from a bygone era that were just as wrong now as they were then. The only difference is for whatever damn reason, appealing to peoples sense of envy and greed is just too strong so that bastard Marx lives on when he should've died unknown and unimportant. At least with the Nazi, it's a more pragmatic form of his idiotic ideas that's upfront with it's evil.
13 likesYeah, it's in the very rules of nature. You can't choose to avoid accepting the difficulties of life, to overcome them you have to adapt while staying above the waves. When nothing pushes you to rise up to better yourself you fall into a cycle of letahrgy.
2 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink exactly, and similarly, one shouldn't be civil when dealing with a communist, as they have ruined even more lives, killed even more people, and continue to do so at an exponentially superior rate to "muh not sees," and I'm saying this as a Jewish person.
11 likesIn fact, anyone who has lived only in the relative luxury of western democracies but supports communism should be treated as the brainlets they are, as only experiencing such a regime first-hand (not just as a tourist either, but an actual long-time citizen) can provide a sufficient idea of what the ideology leads to in practice, not just in fanciful theories.
In short, one shouldn't tolerate such defective things anywhere near them.
And yes, I was born and raised in a communist country, and though my family was already poor, the Party took everything from us, including the small house my grandparents had built, and we were stuffed into one of those cramped, tiny, poorly built blocks with no compensation for what was taken from us.
All that considered, if there was a button that would dematerialize every last one of them, I'd press it twice.
@4nt don't apologise, that's pretty much right on the mark. That's why vocal left leaners are preachy annoying while vocal right leaners just spout dumbass memes and desperately try to push buttons, they think this is some kind of game that's supposed to be "won".
0 likes@MrLuckless marx shouldn't be forgotten, most history is recorded for a reason no matter how wrong it might've been. Communism isn't good, but recording it helps us look back to better society today
7 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink you lost me when you said communism's intentions were good.
10 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink Which communist regime did you survive? Were you a Party member? Or are you one of those western armchair "communists" (😂) who have zero firsthand experience of living with the results of their ideology when put into practice nationwide?
9 likesI survived East European communism, as a minority no less, which wasn't easy. My family's experience was similar to Gal's like described above.
Let me guess, tho: "B-b-BuT tHaT wAsN't ReAl CoMmUnIsM!"🤣
I lived around thousands of communists for years and I had to conclude that literally all of them are smooth brains, cowards, evil, or any combination thereof, no exceptions, and being civil with them is not only pointless but harmful. Being a centrist about that would be cowardice.
Everyone supports a version of "fairness" that they believe benefits themselves. Real justice demands empathy for others
8 likesthis is a good thread
2 likes@Jinxed Swashbuckler I mean, your guess is correct, it wasn't real communism. You laugh, but its true, and you know its true.
0 likesWith that aside, it should be noted that I am aware of the failures of MARXISM-LENINISM, as seen in the soviet union, and don't support the actions of the soviet union. I never said I supported their actions. the "communist" you're describing seems to be a tankie? People who are supporters of Stalin? I disagree with that position, its pretty clear Stalin was bad. I am talking about communism IN THEORY. Also, no fascist regime survived either, so I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make.
A true communist, which I would consider as someone who works for socialism first with the end goal of a communist system, is INFINITELY better than nazism, and I think you would agree with me, unless you don't know what you're talking about. It's pretty hard as a minority, if you are one, to support fascism.
@Mallow Do you know anything about communism? A minute's glance at the wikipedia page would tell you what you need to know. Obviously that's the ideal though, which is hard to put into place in practice. I think its reasonable to assume though that it would be better than fascism.
0 likesThe worst part is that the tragedy of Grimes in the political aspect is kind of an inevitability. Ever since the Middle ages people just keep killing each other for ideological differences, and like how others have pointed out, in the latter 200 years it has just gotten worse. I personally have resigned from discussing politics altogether because I have lost very good friends over it.
1 like@The Ol' Winkle Dink first, pardon the deliberately misspelled words; it seems Susan doesn't like us discussing this subject.
3 likesNow, why do you conflate Fascism with the not sees? They aren't the same thing, obviously.
Surely you can list a few key differences if you know what you're talking about or at least do a quick google search and copy/paste if you don't.
Could you then explain why you're using them interchangeably, like you did in your reply to the other survivor of your ideology?
Could you also give any examples of where communism was not an abject failure that lead to immeasurable death and suffering?
For instance, the Holodomor is one of the greatest acts of evil in the history of the world and it's just many of the "accomplishments" of your dear comrades.
That little feat cost millions of lives, snuffed out in one of the cruellest ways imaginable.
If that wasn't "real communism," who then qualify as purveyors of the one true communism?
Which country has implemented this mythical Real Communism(TM)?
I'll hazard a guess that the answer is "none" and yet you're still convinced if we just tried it one more time , this time surely we'd get it right, no?
In case it matters for some reason, this is coming from an ethnic and sexual minority, which were both targeted by those not sees.
That's how evil communism is to millions who have actually experienced it and lived to tell the tale, like I have.
You come off like a neo-not .. s e e who's telling a WWII vet "oh, that wasn't real ***ism, real ***ism has never been tried, but trust me, we totally should!"
The answer is and remains "No, please visit the nearest possible helicopter as soon as possible."
Is that non-centrist enough?
@The Ol' Winkle Dink Real communism has never been tried before for it CANNOT be tried. It is a fantasy incompatible with real life.
0 likes@Grilly Grilly that isn't the point of political theory... There are people who are unironic anarcho capitalists, but they still want to give their shit a try
0 likes@The Ol' Winkle Dink Why wastest thou time on Politics when Linguistics are a thing? ;)
0 likes@Grilly Grillyok
0 likesWow you include center but why if i ask?
0 likes@rainbow2406 panda although there are far less of them than left or right wingers, I still find a lot of centrists to be similarly obsessed with this idealized fairness.
0 likesOh god whenever an english speaker tries to pronounce a french word I break into laughter 😂
0 likesWait, Matt Groening grew up in Springfield, Oregon??? I lived there for a couple years. Full of tweakers and crazy people. Couple of the most eventful years of my life. That's so funny!
1 likeThis is my third time, I think, watching this in full, love the most excellent content.
0 likesHomer reminds me so much of Andy on Parks and Recreation. The episode shows it here.
0 likes“Inconvenience is the price you pay for unconditional affection”
452 likesJesus that made me sit up,
Fuck this whole video is deep. Impeccable job dude, seriously.
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First time?
21 likesThis guy is a fucking poet I swear
17 likesand he's a zoomer, what am i doing with my life? oh wait he touched on that too, generations are a cycle and zoomers will be the new gen x
6 likesif you liked this idea I recommend watching 'My neighbours the Yamadas', the father gives a very similar speech. Now that I'm typing this out I realize that the Yamadas are quite similar to the Simpsons in some aspects.
2 likesI mean that really doesnt make sense let alone come close to being "deep"
4 likes@Unpixel Maybe not "deep" but more or less "Food for Thought". Regardless, it's true as hell.
12 likes@Unpixel it makes sense to me : )
0 likes@thinly veiled alien well aren’t most zoomer’s parents gen X? Seems like it’s just history repeating itself.
0 likesOn principle I like this line, though it doesn't really make sense.
0 likesInconvenience as the "price you pay" makes that affection conditional.
The condition for the affection is inconvenience.
@Brakit You have to make a sacrifice to receive/keep someone's affection, I guess
1 like@Brakit He means unconditional affection from Homer/the dog. They will love you unconditionally but may make a mess from time to time.
2 likesThe Simpsons was such a great show for the first 7 or 8 seasons... then they lost their way with episodes like 'Das Bus' and "Simpson Tide'. Those were the two that jumped the shark.
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why those two
0 likes"Don't rebel against the system instead..." Are you sure about that
2 likesThe best ending The Simpsons could get is a meta one that takes place after Season 7 where everyone has aged and that seasons 1 through the last were an in universe Syndicated Sitcom based on the lives of the Simpson family.
0 likesSo basically season 1 through 7 happened. And then in universe they went and had lives of their own and then some tv exec wanted to make a show based on their lives.
There could be meta commentary from the cast where they say things like
"Yeah man, only the first 7 seasons were actualy based on events in our lives. 8 and afterwards was just syndication churning new things out cause folks kept tunin in yknow. Some were good. I like the movie haha"
I think the Simpsons has followed along the path it set to point out and criticize when it first started: fresh new realities subverting the old, and eventually becoming the old ones to later be criticized. It’s kind of a good thing the Simpsons has declined, because it shows that they were right all along. 👌🏻 edit: ahhh and now at 35:50 they lay out my thoughts just in time for me to realize my comment wasn’t relevant😂 how ironic
1 likei like how he tricks Homer into participating in a childs contest. When homer wins and everybody cheers homer up he must have realized that not only homer is a lazy idiot but everybody in his whole workplace is LOL
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He honestly should’ve realized that the owner of the nuclear factory was a lazy idiot when the man rejected a kids idea even when it powered the room and chose Homers weird idea that probably done nothing but add flair and used children for ideas.
9 likesI remember my American cousins (HUGE Simpsons fans) HATING that "you're what's wrong with America" speech.
0 likesthis is a good video in general I can relate to both characters
1 like"There will never be another episode like it"
1 likeDisney executives: " dont test us, Homer's enemy 2 Frank Grimes reborn is still available
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"Somehow, Frank Grimes returned"
0 likes* star wars music starts playing *
I am in total agreement of everything in this video EXCEPT the shot you used to show Homer embodying 'Lust'. It's from the scene in 'Homer Badman' where he reaches for the Gummi Venus de Milo and NOT for her butt. If anything, that should be used for 'Gluttony'.
0 likesThis episode is the deepest it ever got. All of the Simpsons imitators never dared to venture into such a real and unsettling topic. Frank Grimes was in the wrong series. Anywhere else he would have been right. He would have been a hero. That ending still makes me uncomfortable to this day. This is perhaps my favorite episode of the series. The Simpsons never before or after got so real.
104 likesthese kinds of videos are like watching a flat earth documentary but better. They bring up these small things and spin them into something big, like putting a big meaning on a silly cartoon, but the points aren't infuriatingly stupid or bad. Good video.
1 likeNew Simpsons isn’t bad, it’s just not incredibly amazing like it used to be. It’s like comparing a one hit wonder or bottom of the chart pop star to Michael Jackson. Obviously Jackson is better in most people’s eyes, but it doesn’t mean the rest of the top 40 are worthless, or that music is dead because Michael is dead. It’s a different show now, and that’s fine
0 likesI like how you spent so long talking about the deconstruction of the series itself, but didn't bother to mention the don hertzfeldt couch gag
0 likesI don’t know why people would rather a show die than it not line up with their meta analysis. I hope it runs forever, it’s dope.
0 likesWhile Frank Grimes is obviously a tragic irony & dark humor, it is also the show poking fun at itself. Grimes is rightfully shocked and appalled of the fact that Homer is an incompetent, happy-go-lucky safety inspector of a nuclear power plant which is also poking fun at ‘The Simpsons’ world in general that would allow this to happen.
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I thought the show was trying its best to defend itself and its place, not make fun of itself
2 likesI think he’s based of the main character form the movie “Falling Down”
1 likeAmusingly, Homer had to work for his safety inspector gig, only getting it so that he'd stop decrying Burns's lack of standards.
1 likeI clicked on this video thinking it was gonna be a Simpsons fan talking about his favorite episode… boy, I wasn’t ready.
0 likes"Matt Groening would have to go through hell"
8 likesShows Los Angeles on a map
Yup he went through hell, poor guy. LA is a special kind of cesspool
Since homer works at a nucular power plant he has to be a genius in disguise
0 likesUh...I've never heard of The Simpsons before. Glad you took all that time to tell us.
0 likesI remember when I first watched this episode, my dad was eating something and when Grimes was telling Homer that they were enemies Homer says something like "ok, do I have to do anything?" At the end. My dad, who wasn't really watching burst out laughing at that. He's dead now (my dad) but that was something I remember about it, and it turned out to be one of my best memories of him. Strange how that happens.
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The emotional whiplash from “my dad burst out laughing” to “he’s dead now” honestly caught me off guard.
57 likes@Sompursone sorry mate
9 likesDied laughing
4 likes@Calendar Factory not quite, crushed under the wheels of a truck, spent a week in ICU before dying from his injuries.
10 likes@Fourking Gulliman JESUS.
9 likes@Fourking Gulliman well damn.
6 likesThe Simpsons is a prime example of why you don't grant a series exemption from cancelations.
0 likeswow, i totally thought that keeps thing was a fake ad. but the video is fantastic. thanks for sharing!
1 likehow can your content be this good
0 likesHomer's Enemy is one of my favorite epidodes.
0 likesI remember my Dad didn't like this episode, but watched it anyway because he liked the side plot with Bart buying a building for a dollar.
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Why hè didn't like It?
5 likes@Sub Zero i guess we'll never know
5 likes@Wildan Mustopa no we can't accept that!
2 likesYeah, why?
1 likehonestly that side plot was actually pretty funny lmao
6 likesMan...that's one impressive analysis! Soft Machine in the background on Laissez-Faire was really distracting me though...
0 likesThis... Was amazing. Great video.
0 likesI fell asleep watching this and had the weirdest dream of my life
1 like"In some way, all of us live in Springfield"
0 likesMe, a German: Hell no
The true loss in the Simpsons was when they no longer did satire and parody well. As Rageaholic once said after explaining that Itchy and Scratchy was once a parody of the morality police once targeting Tom and Jerry, "The Simpsons used to do parody before they became one."
87 likesFrank Grimes is his own greatest enemey
3 likesI would argue that shitposting, ytp, and internet culture as a whole wouldn't be what it is without the simpsons
0 likesim from Europe and here it works the same
1 likeThe older generation has classical, religious and familial values while the younger generation tends to be more.... rebelious
In other words, there will be never be another good Simpsons episode.
0 likes"You... went into outer space? YOU!"
628 likes" Sure. You've never been?"
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Wanna see my Grammy?
43 likeshe got you there dad..
14 likes@OurGreatSociety Wha-NO!
3 likesFrank Grimes was capable, and definitely deserved better. But he was a sullen sad sack, with a chip on his shoulder, who believed the world owed him. The world is full of Frank Grimes'
1 like5:17 and yet our parents wonder why we are so cynical and done with life when the same exact shit seems to be happening again but somehow worse.
0 likesI don’t know exactly why, but I found 20:21 hilarious
0 likesLife is one of the most unfair yet forgiving things as well. Its not about the material things that make it worth living, but the people we share life with that makes it worth it. This episode of the Simpsons shows this greatly.
0 likesMan, this hits home. Funny enough I've been focusing a lot on a story specifically about the "give and take" cycle of life and how/why the balance becomes so upset so frequently. Every second of this video explains it so well. Working is important when it comes to a stable future and the well-being of others. But when life is a finite collection of moments, living in the present is how we'll truly be happy with just ourselves. It's about striking a balance between the two, the drive and the calm.
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Work like Grimes, but have the heart of Homer
17 likes@Raymunator Couldn't have said it better myself.
4 likesI am NEVER going to have to worry about hair loss, but now I kinda wish I would 😕
0 likesBrilliant Spot
after all these years since Emp referenced Jon Bois in his Dale Earnhardt video, I just realized.
3 likesNever Ever is Pretty Good.
I still quite like the Simpson’s and have watched new episodes of the new seasons with mild interest, but I understand why people say that it’s fallen so far from grace. When the counter culture becomes the norm and apart of what it used to mock, it kinda ruins the point of the original art no matter how good it still is
2 likes2:55 - I've looked at terrain maps of the USA countless times, but I never noticed the depressed face that exists in eastern Washington and Oregon.
1 likeFrank Grimes proved that No matter how kind Homer was he would be a pain in the a** Even tho he did not directly try to annoy Frank i wish that Frank survived and stayed around for at least å few more episodes
0 likes"In a way, all of us live in Springfield."
0 likespeople who live in another country be like:
to all of my friends still in high school- be homer. you can forever work as hard as you want, but you can never be happy doing so.
0 likesgrimes is to homer what homer is to ned flanders broke my brain bro... slow clap outstanding,
2 likesGrowing up, I had a particularly nihilistic family. People who were just naturally bitter, who had to work hard and take everyone’s shit, and then there was me, this kind, cheery dude who played video games a lot.
10 likesThe first time I watched this episode, it also happened to be one of the first episodes of the Simpsons I had ever seen. I was mortified by the conclusion, and I felt nothing but sympathy for Grimes.
Thing is, I actually went through a period of my life when I was beginning to feel spiteful and bitter toward everything. I started to grow up, and I related to Grimes. Big time. I was surprised to learn that I was a lot like Frank Grimes.
Flash forward to me now. 28 years old in April, which is about a month from now. I have seen more episodes of the Simpsons, and funny enough, I relate greatly to the Simpsons, in particular, Homer.
By now I am an associate at an Amazon Warehouse. I help my sister raise her 5 kids in a cramped 2 bedroom apartment in downtown Austin Texas. Have been helping her...since I was 16....
I’ve completed college, and successfully moved out of my humble home of Laredo Texas, a place rife with greed, ignorance, and selfishness.
Now I see this episode, and I’m surprised to say...I’m basically Homer Simpson.
In college, I learned that there was a bigger world out there, and I didn’t have to put up with everyone’s crap. The internet taught me that there were people like me, and I shouldn’t be ashamed of who I am. Living downtown on my own for a year helped me learn my strengths and assert my independence. I sacrificed a lot for my family unconditionally, and live for hilariously simple desires such as owning a bike and a small room with a bed. Vicarious situations such as going to work late, being late on my rent, things that just...work out.
I developed my fragile youthful personality, one that many disputed. I was told to grow up, stop being a kid. Truth is, I absorbed the discipline and sense of responsibility of an adult, but maintained my youthful outlook. I think many people have awoken this outlook as well, and it warms my heart.
That being said, politics aren’t my strong suit. Whenever I approached a topic, I found that I either made things worse for others or worse for me. Meanwhile, when I was passive, kept to myself, and agreed with and supported others, things went my way. I didn’t see a viewpoint I disagreed with, I saw a flawed viewpoint that I could reinforce and people I could inform.
Essentially, I was a happy go lucky fella, and ultimately at heart, I still am, but there is also always this part of me who is just Frank Grimes. That will never fade, and that’s okay.
I watch this episode now, and I find it amazing, especially now having Emplemon’s enlightened perspective. I think it’s amazing how wise the writing went into the show. As tragic as it is to see Frank Grimes fail, especially since he reminds me a lot of my family even now, it’s a stark reminder to put these ideals behind, that Frank Grimes is simply obsolete.
I don’t think the world would be better without Grimes. His problem, one many share, is his closed minded viewpoint. The sad thing is he is not entirely wrong. You can’t really correct him, or help him. You can only sort of feel bad for him, and hope he gets better.
I love you sis. You made life easy for me, and difficult for yourself. I hope you find happiness, the way I did.
19:24 the worst thing is that Burns got the power to become the man he is now, he aplied the lazzies-faire. He was in a pretty bad but comfortable status and never had the intention of changing it. Then, a chance of move on to a better status comes out of nowhere, he takes it, and here we are.
0 likes2:24 "TV's most iconic yellow family"
1 likeI guess lego ninjago just isn't iconic
"most unique character in simpsons history", if not in any tv show. it resonated with me as a child in a way i didnt understand, but i do now... i do now
0 likes25:00 exactly its just how the universe works
1 likeFrank: "As of today, we are now enemies."
635 likesHomer: "Okay....
Do I have to do anything?"
This still makes me laugh, because I've been on both sides of that coin.
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It's also perfect in context of the episode. With Grimes going out of his way to be "perfect" and prove to himself he is as worthless as he perceives Homer as, while Homer kinda just goes with it because it doesn't really effect him.
26 likesI remember the good days where the Simpsons's humour was actually multileveled and... funny.
Flanders: Homer, you are the worst neighbour I have ever met.
11 likesHomer: Wow, I got off pretty easy.
Whilst that line was in the context of Ned's other insults from that Hurricane episode, this could also showcase Homer's youthful outlook. Being deemed the worst is simple, yet effective to the eyes of those who cared. Homer wasn't one of those people.
@MattheJ1 sounds like you never made good money. You’re finding validity in a penny.
0 likes@The Multiverse Beg pardon?
0 likes@Matt J My reply was meant as commentary moreso regarding seeing both sides of an argument than the specific reason you used the analogy. The idea of "the coin" proposes a dualistic way of seeing the world, which works idiomatically, although flawed in that a 3 dimensional objects by definition can't have two sides. I think instead of two, you have a mind boggling series of infinite options, more akin to "the coin" spinning so fast as to create a hypersphere which leads you to The Multiverse ✨
0 likes@The Multiverse ...Okay, sure, but this scenario literally has two roles - Frank and Homer. You want me to be Lenny or something?
1 like@Matt J If anything: I'd like if you looked like the Squishee Delivery Lady with the intellect of Ralph Wiggum!
0 likesI like how matter of fact you took my comment.
Do you feel similar, or were you just refocusing the conversation back to where it's relevant?
36:14 ... Second death sounds way worse than first death...
1 like'So intensely profound we still think about it 23 years later'. Wait until this guy hears about Plato.
0 likesMight be a controversial opinion, but I think Futurama is Matt Groening's best work.
1 likeHomer started it by eating his lunch, chewing up his pencils, not speaking up to Mr. Burns when Grimes saved his life when Homer almost drank that acid. Not-2-mention...Homer's UTTER disregard for his and everyone at the plant's safety and well-being, by ducking and not caring about his job. Plus, we know how frustrating it is when the lazy bum gets paid, does nothing or ruins everything and no consequences occur....but, if you aren't lazy and take initiative and sneeze wrong....you get demolished....that's Grimes issue.
1 like"Heh, if you lived in any other country in the world, you'd have starved to death long ago." - Grimey
676 likesThe ironic thing is, the same could maybe be said for him. He was abandoned by his parents at age 4. I think this line really highlights the dichotomy presented in this video.
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Not only abandoned, he also got into a major explosion when he was 18 that made him 100% bedridden for years while also causing him to lose hearing and sense of touch.
66 likesI mean there are a lot of countries outside of the US with at least the scale of governmental safety nets.
12 likes@Javid Productions I guess you can call it a counter argument to his claim but the point still stands in the end, A person that was abandoned at the age of 4 or got bedridden at age 18 wouldn’t have even prospered a bit either.
5 likes@Predator 20357 Yes, he would be alive but it would seem near impossible for him to flourish. If anything being in Springfield where everyone is dumber and lazier than him could have been his big break. Imagine if he'd studied to do a job, he could have taken nearly anyone's role because no character is good at what they do in Springfield.
13 likes@Drbigt let's plays in short, half dead.
0 likes@Javid Productions What makes you think competent people flourish in Springfield?
1 likeI think Grimes meant that Homer's laziness & incompetence would've had him starving in some ditch, if he lived in another country or time period. America gives safety blankets for some and harsh falls for others. It is implied (or at least not stated otherwise) that Grimes was was born in America but was given the short end of the stick, in life. Grimes probably did as we in America as he would've done being raised in some third world country. Whereas Homer can only function in America, with the cushy blankets.
5 likesyes indeed, not to mention even if he was picked up. If it wasn't a modern country what kind of life would he have had or education if any at all in the third world countries modern ones like ours exploit for cheap labor and resources.
0 likes@Jose Fabian He wouldn't have fun as HOMR proves, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be successful. He could for example blackmail Mr Burns about the nuclear plant issues.
0 likesFor me it’s the old school Gran Turismo music that makes lemon vids. Hits my nostalgia more than the simpsons surprisingly enough
0 likesI welcome another generation x with open arms, they were way better than my generation of millennials or gen z.
0 likesSometimes we're Grimes
0 likesSometimes we're Homer
We're all Bart
But also Lisa
None of us are DuffMan
“The ill fated Mission Hill”
1 likeBruh I loved Mission Hill 😢
The sarcasm about Bill Cosby at the beginning was just perfect.
138 likesi feel like this should have been the simpsons final episode
0 likesWe like homer for the same reason we like tony soprano, because its fiction or at the very least far away from our real life day to day lives (like john gotti, people think hes cool but if he was your next door neighbor you probably wouldn't care for the guy)
1 likeOne of my top three episodes of all time,,,the other two are War of the Simpsons,,and The cartridge family...awesome..
0 likesThis is a wonderful examination, themes relevant in the mid nineties that are still at the heart of so many arguments in post industrial countries in 2021
1 like"Often times the greatest art doesn't give us all the right answers, it makes us ask the right questions."
74 likesI will remember this from now on.
How are you doing Emp. I'm not even subscribed to you but with how broken the algorithm is like you said in the last video I saw from you. It has only taken me to this. Seing you go into a deep dive of what what Homer's enemy brought to the series makes me wonder what you've felt about life recently. So I guess I just wanted to ask. You doing ok?
0 likes"Before he could do that, he had to enter hell"
6 likeszooms into LA
Sounds about right tbh
I just wonder how you did this without even mentioning capitalism and how a critique of the american dream implicitly is just that lol
0 likesKinda sad how the Simpson’s have been bought out like this
0 likesAnother Masterpiece Emp, much like your final message, this was made not so much to really give us any kind of answers, so much as for us to ponder and ask the right questions about a show we once all loved. Truly an incredible piece if art.
41 likesmy mom worked on a project with Matt Groening, and he offered her a position on the team making it. she denied it. she regrets it to this day
1 likeGood ol Grimey. I wonder how he's doing these days...
1 likeOne of those magical random videos that makes my day... At least YouTube still provide us with good moments.
0 likesNgl this, whoolleee video hit me like a truck, emotionally, and I dont know why. Growing up with the simpsons is a weirdly involving life to have
0 likesI wonder what if Grimes met Flanders, and or see Homer's resentment and short coming compared him?
288 likesWould that have saved him from going crazy, or something else?
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Probably not
33 likesHe's too focused on his own shortcomings compared to Homer
I think it would’ve made him worse but saved his life
62 likesGrimes would be seeing somebody succeeding in the American dream even beyond Homer through hard work and a can do attitude which would make him not go through a “I’m Homer Simpson” however this sight mixed with the sight of Homer’s hatred at this great man would probably make homer even more so detestable to Grimes
In the book A Stranger In a Strange Land, a human raised by Martians on Mars has no sense of humor. At one point in the story he goes to a zoo. At the zoo there is a monkey enclosure where he sees a monkey with some food. A bigger monkey hits the smaller one and takes his food. The monkey with no food finds a monkey smaller than him and hits them stealing their food. The Mars Man laughs and realizes that comedy is derived from human suffering.
8 likes@Baconknight Productions yep the state of ceará em brasil is regarded as the one with the most funny people and the one with the most unforgiving weather conditions one example: a drought that lasted 15 years that happened in the 19th century.
0 likesI haven't seen that interview but I wonder if that "because it makes it look like there's somthing wrong with your tv set" was matt groening just being like "I am TIRED of explaining the stylistic choice to people I'm just gonna say some bullshit"
0 likesThis video is so great. It should be shown in school to teach kids about late Gen Xers / Xennials.
0 likesYeah they shouldn’t have killed him off. These videos are so good
0 likesFrank is proof that equity is impossible and the reality is that equity is a terrible idea things should be equal not equitable
0 likesis it bad that the Simpsons is now a functional family by today's standards, and that they're living the modern American dream.
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They could easily be considered higher-class now. I feel like this was foreshadowed in this episode. Frank Grimes worked his ass off his whole life yet never had much to show for it, or atleast that's what he thought. A good example of many people today, colleges and jobs only get harder and harder to find. As generations come and go, people only end up getting frustrated and desperate to even just make a living. This isnt to say Homer took an easy way out being apart of a generation where jobs and colleges were more common, but the fact that he made it through is a testament to people's change in attitude.
53 likesYeah, I'm millennial and I always remember thinking Simpsons was an old boring show. I didn't see it as subversive whatsoever. Family Guy. Now that was subversive and irreverent comedy I could relate to.
5 likes@Chaz Domingo Funny, because I see myself relating to Fry.
3 likes@Random Guy on the Internet don't want to be political but all the affects we are seeing now is a prelude to a golble crisis. 17 CT style crisis. The next 20 years will be shit..we are going to be the lost ganaration.
6 likes@wolfrainexxx Yeah, Fry is what Groening made for us, but he was never as popular as Family Guy.
3 likesi see you everywhere
0 likesI dont find that more shocking than the idea of america being adept of « laissez-faire » when they are typically good at interfering.
1 likeHomer looks happy to be scolded by Grimes in the thumbnail…
0 likesMake a video about Mission Hill! It needs you Emp, it needs your reach, it’s needs your storytelling, the world has to know about the forgotten Bill Oakley/Josh Weinstein masterpiece and you’re the man to deliver it! You already did Home Movies now do Mission Hill please and thank you love you
0 likesI'm with Frank here. You ever work with a idiot who gets promoted before you. I was so insulted, I quit the next day.
0 likes"Is true freedom even attainable if its unaltered state inevitably resurrects tyranny?"
0 likesHistory-level oof.
On the one hand, yeah, Grimes is miserable because he's so uptight, but Homer can only afford to be as hapless and blissful as he is because he has all the things that Grimes blows up at him over. Yeah, his happiness doesn't come from his popularity and material wealth, but he can only pursue things that bring him happiness by having those things.
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While Homer may be wealthy compared to Grimes, he's actually not successful at all from the perspective of the modern American ideal. The show consistently portrays the Simpsons as lower middle class, and plenty of episodes either focus on their financial struggles or include that as a B plot or backstory. In fact, the pivotal scene where Grimes comes to their house is even more complex than this video indicates, because Grimes's awe at the house is an ironic counterpoint to the many previous episodes that show the house in disrepair (not to mention that the house itself is actually quite modest). I wouldn't say that Homer can afford to be hapless and naïve because of his economic status. Part of the joke is that Homer should have died or become completely destitute by now, but simply hasn't. Meanwhile, Grimes's past is far more harrowing and merciless than anything Homer ever went through, yet everything he does to alleviate his station proves fruitless in the end.
92 likesThere were times he didn't have popularity, or wealth. You cannot appreciate popularity or wealth if there aren't times you don't have it. Cherish your poverty and cherish how people don't know, or don't like you because it is the same thing as when they do like you, or when you do have wealth. Or what you could do is stop comparing and the dichotomy will disappear. By the way if the dichotomy can disappear and you believe you gather happiness from it then your happiness is premised on an illusion. If your happiness comes from nothing then just be happy as you are. Problem solved your welcome. Now stop being a crank.
7 likesWell there's also the fact that Homer's mindset allows him to have people who care for him.
3 likes@Vellichor For someone who lives in a single room dwelling, no multi-room house is 'modest'. For someone who shares a single room with several others, no private single room is 'modest'. And for someone who lives on a private island, their home is 'modest' because they don't rule a kingdom from a literal palace. One of the biggest problems with inequality is that it's so hard to see it from the inside.
0 likes@Amy Mason I would say that's part of the bit the episode is doing; Grimes sees the Simpson home as the height of success even though the show as a whole takes great pains to show the family struggling or even barely getting by.
0 likesThe fact you did a Vsauce style episode even with the random tangents that then make sense
0 likesok so Theme here
3 likes1 Sponge Bob - because there is One thing, that made Sponge Bob different from other shows
2 MNR - because it was a Competition between two Wrestling shows
3 Dale Ernhardt - because his number on Car was 3
4 Stanislav Petrov - if it wasn't for him - fourth world war would be Fought with Sticks
5 Hungrybox - because Five Melee Gods
6 Homers Enemy - because there are six Simpsons, I guess.
Which means that number 7 would be... I don't know. Who knows what Emp is up to?
It really is the best Episode of the show. Very dark too…
0 likesTheRealJims (in that unnecessary insertion of The Golden Age, but also otherwise) is acting like he is telling "pure reality", but he is simply counting down pretty small-minded personal views and tastes. At least that is always coming through among more basic, structural points, which he also usually gives a too personal colouring (there is simply not such a consensus about seasons which are classical in their way that this or that would be not good, but rather it is not rarely seen as a highlight, and so on).
0 likes"A place where everyone can unite and rate everything a 7 out of 10"
708 likesOk that part had me dying LMFAO
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Both films are, admittedly, 7 out of 10s.
13 likes"Worst episode ever. 7 out of 10."
5 likesThis video was fantastic. Thank you
0 likesHonestly I think the Simpsons new episodes get a little over hated. I’ve watched the majority of episodes and one of my personal favorite is the season 29 episode Forgive and Regret, yet is a 6.9 on IMDb but I honestly like that episode over Homers Enemy
0 likesso turns out i've been living my life right this whole time: my way.
0 likesif you work you loose
According to ToonrificTariq, the creation of the Simpsons happened this way:
0 likesSomeone from the Network: Hey Matt, your meeting will start any minute. Can't wait to see what different show you got from us, that isn't Life in Hell.
Matt: oh yea- excuse me?!
Apparently the dude made the most important show of television on the fly!
"The Simpsons opened our eyes to the yellowness of the world, after a while we stopped questioning why they were yellow. They simply were. It was only then when just for a moment, the creators had nothing else to do but make them green. Homer's enemy is The Simpsons magnum opus, and there will never ever be another episode like it." *takes the one second where Homer gets up to adjust the TV and makes Bart green and zooms in on Bart, putting the laughter from the end over it*
121 likesman oh my GOD that ending is perfect!
There must be a way to be a hero and live long as hero until the end...
0 likesYou did such a great analysis of the show. I grew up with the Simpsons and so did my parents. I never understood why they only stuck to the first 8 seasons. They always told me that whenever they see one of them pick up a phone they immediately change the channel. I now know why that is the case. I wasn’t interested in your analysis of just this episode. I’m more interested in your take on the entire series, it’s concepts, and probably a big question of mine; why do my parents don’t like the more recent episodes. I now know it’s because of the fact they grew up in this early era of the show and that it’s become watered down and unoriginal when this is now the cookie cutter mold for modern cartoon series.
2 likesAlso green Simpsons reminds me of certain space creatures, let’s just hope the Kraken that is copyright doesn’t get to them.
Simpson minions are the most cursed thing to ever exist
2 likesAh shit, this video just convinced me to start watching Simpsons I guess
1 like"responsible and virtuous role models"
144 likeszooms in on Bill Cosby
Oh man another banger from EMP
I wanna be the guy who had enough courage to punch the guitar playing hippie and just walk away like a king.
0 likesI wouldn't say Homer's Enemy is where this show jumped the shark. I always say "The Principle and the Pauper", just a few episodes after Homer's Enemy, was the episode where The Simpsons jumped the shark.
0 likes7:12 "It's remarkable just how different The Simpsons was than anything else on television at the time", so are we just ignoring Married with Children, which premiered 2 years before The Simpsons?
0 likesGoddamn this is deep as fuck and accurate as well.
1 like“In a way we all live in Springfield” laughs in Australian
0 likesthat timing on "responsable and virtuous role models" lmao 4:39
0 likesGrimes is like the guy from falling down
1 likeGrimey just didn't at the end of the day have the plot armor to survie in Springfield. He was an normal man plunged into a cartoon.
0 likesit's still so bizarre and beautiful to me how people who made YTPs from many years ago would eventually create master class video essays today
44 likesthe episode began with The news anchor Kent Brockman introducing Frank Grimes on the simpson's TV, at the episodes end when Grimes is being buried, Homer says "change the channel marge."
1 likeI was absolutely prepared to hear “Sniping’s a good job mate” as soon as I heard the Meet The Sniper music
0 likes15:15 I like the detail where you fully Capitalized YOUR and AMERICA to give the sentence another meaning
0 likesBeautifully done video
1 like"The engine of America is powered by turmoil."
193 likesIf that's your line, then bravo.
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Reflecting on it, is it not true? Revolutionary War, Shay's Rebellion, Economic Panics of the early 19th century, the civil war, economic panics of the late 19th century, WW1, Great Depression, WW2, Red Scare, Watergate, Vietnam, 1980's depression, Columbine, Iraq War, Great Recession, and the Pandemic. All of these has happened, and yet America managed to live through them unscathed. I find it impressive when on paper the engine is expected to blow up halfway down the drag strip.
17 likes@D39 street Oh god you jinxed it
3 likes@D39 street aaaand you ruined it
4 likes@D39 street I don't believe America made it unscathed from any of them. The Cold War basically scarred the American psyche so much that they became obsessed with fighting something. The dissolution of the Soviet Union basically meant they had no major enemies left so, instead of healing and repairing, they decided to go find or make a new enemy. To add insult to injury, some of these enemies were former allies - America used Afghanistan to give the Soviets their Vietnam... then Afghanistan turned into America's second Vietnam.
0 likes"We are going to do a terrible thing to you. We are going to take away your enemy." - Soviet expert Georgy Arbatov.
Oh how right he was...
I think one really good example of how the simpsons kind of lives on in the era of the internet in it's most purist form is with phonk. While if you look up phonk today you'll get a bunch of cowbell-laced trap beats, one of the earliest rises in this music genre's popularity was with it's weed-smoking cousin. artists like soudiere, DJ smokey, and DJ yung vamp have all used simpsons screenshots as cover art. It represents the genre as a whole. Anti-culture.
0 likesThe chill side of phonk is build to never ever be able to break into the mainstream. With copyright laws being as strict as they are, no one would be able to emulate the carefree nature of phonk and get hundreds of millions of streams without some angry lawyers knocking at their door demanding a ciese and decist.
Phonk is deliberately anti-culture. Fuck you, fuck the world, and fuck humanity. You listen to phonk thinking about all of the things that were, all of the things that will be, and you're squarely in the middle. Phonk is a complete subversion of what can and should be popular, and as such, it's no wonder it's genre-defining. It's like the simpsons, and the simpsons live on in it's footsteps.
I recently watched the Simpsons for the first time in my life. I’m 25. It was S8E2 “You Only Move Twice”.
1 likeI appreciate this video but embody both Homer and Frank. Obsessed with fairness with a side of "Why should I fucking care?"
0 likes4:40 I see what you did there! 🤣🤣
0 likesJust wanted to say thank you for the video. I was in a pretty bad spot after being burnt out by work, pay inequality, inept colleagues and failed projects which I barely had control over.
199 likesI was literally the worst parts of Grimes. And this video made me realize the more important things in life and to stop being stressed out and to relax a bit.
Not sure if this will reach you, but thanks for making me feel much better now
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I'm glad someone else feels that way.
10 likesI also feel Frank Grimes resonates with me and that I do need to be more like Homer. I became SO resentful and even acquired an enemy in the last year.
Me too, I'm at this point in my life as well, resonating with Frank Grimes. Its even got so bad that I got muscled outta my Christmas morning so that Homer could be with his family and completely forget that I went outta way for him. Really glad this video reminded me that comparison is the thief of joy.
7 likesThe best time to apply for a new job is while you are getting paid. Just say "I'm looking for a new challenge." instead of being "too negative".
0 likesPetition for Lemon to make Another “There Will Never Ever Be Another” Video, about Team Fortress 2
0 likesIt's possible some episodes weren't bad, Everyone just adapted to it, but Simpsons doesn't adapt. it just runs under the same rules. some of the poor ratings might be uncalled for, because we look at it from the wrong view point.
0 likesIt's still worse than before, but not all the episodes are bad.
i still love the simpsons
0 likesThis video truly deserve a like from every individual who watched it
0 likesGrimes looked at Homer the way early Homer looked at early Flanders: "Why the hell does this guy have so much more than me?"
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GUYS, LOOK, HE WATCHED THE VIDEO WE WATCHED TOO!!
56 likes“I’m Homer Simpson!” -Frank Grimes
17 likesI'm interested in why Grimes says Homer is the problem and not Burns, considering it was Burns who hired them, snubbed him, and allows the world to burn. Or even actively does it himself. Homer is small fry, a fly lucky enough to find good food and not be squished, Homer naturally appears where life allows. Off the success of exploitation, done by much more evil men.
55 likes@BizzaroHunter come on dude don’t be a Cee yoU Next Tuesday over a guy just trying to have a discussion.
11 likes@BizzaroHunter The comments literally exists to allow us to discuss the contents of the video, hence why most comments are like this. Calling it out is nothing to act smug about.
16 likesHe literally says that in the video
6 likes@Mr Maticus but he's not discussing it, he's regurgitating something from the video, or he had the same idea but didn't finish the video. Either way there's no discussion to be had
5 likesFlanders is the man who got what he deserved. Even though he did get hit with a few tragedies. He worked hard and never hurt anyone.
6 likesHome is the man who got more than he deserved. He was lazy reckless and often selfish.
Grimes in the man who never got what he deserved. He worked hard. But his biggest flaw was envy.
Ironically envying a man who lives paycheck to paycheck. Maybe grimy was not envious of Homer's success but of Homer's happiness.
@r p even then Homer wasn't the cause of the problem Grimes had. Homer was a symptom of the work place owned by Mr. Burns and in extension the reflection of economy going down the drain.
0 likes@cannon
0 likesThe comments are called "comments" not "discussion"
You are meant to use they to comment on the video.
@EveryTimeV2 because Grimes is astounded at Homers actual incompetence, the amount of issues he causes, yet still everyone tolerates him. Whilst if Grimes acted the same, he'd get in trouble for it. Homer has a crazy amount of privilege and the man himself doesn't see it
0 likesThe simpsons is not what is once was, but it still is etertaining, and has its funny moments, especially when it mocks modern trends.
0 likesI'm so let down, thought this, my fav episode, wasn't this popular.
0 likesDont know why people hate on new simpsons so much, i actually like the new simpsons more than the old ones
0 likesdid you know in germany, sideshow bobs is called
0 likesTingle-Tangle Bob! its kinda funny, fits his hair!
edit: 9:50 i just realised the bucket of books he's holding
so is sideshow bob the
sideshow bucket of books
"It is possible to commit zero mistakes and still lose."
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"That is not weakness, that is life"
113 likesMe taking tests in school.
11 likesNO thats the whole point of making no mistakes you are guaranteed to win 100% of the time.
4 likes@Jullien Ricot Flawless is not the same as perfect, in fact in most cases there is no significant overlap between them. I was an adult by the time I realized the first part of that sentence to be true, and I was close to thirty by the time I fully embraced the second part. But it is one of the most fundamental aspects of our world you will ever encounter.
31 likes@Jullien Ricot Simply untrue. Welcome to the real world.
20 likes@Queen Crab I believe the question was framed like a math test if you answer all the question correctly you still will prevail right.
1 likeIf you are talking about this being unfair then yes that happens all the time to everyone.
@Jullien Ricot
22 likesImagine a chess match with two players who always make the best possible move available to them.
It's debated what the end result would be, but either there's a draw, meaning both are neither winners nor losers, or one of them wins, meaning the other loses.
That's with an mostly level playing field with the exception of the slight advantage the person to move first has.
Now imagine a modified chess match both players still always make the best possible move available to them,
BUT player A has only a king and two queens, whereas player B has only a king and two pawns.
Player B is doomed, no matter how flawless B's decisions in the game of this unfairly modified chess are.
A 100% guaranteed win from playing flawlessly is only possible in a fair game with no unpredictable elements.
Life is an unfair game with unpredictable elements.
You cant soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys
0 likes@M. B. What does that mean?.......sit down and take it?
1 like@Jullien Ricotnot so much just sit there. But "taking it" it to varying extents is often unavoidable. Many ppl are subject to Grimes' predicament.
9 likesSometimes you just cant win. All you can do is continue to live by your principles.
every poker player knows this from hard experience.
5 likes@Jullien Ricot You're way off. Hard work is not and never has been demonized. People are becoming aware that hard work is not the solution to life's problems. Intelligence is prized now more than ever in most circles, now that the world has seen what a lack of intelligence can mean for a country like the USA: Half a million people dead. What your kind refer to as "virtue signalling" has never and will never be about narcissism and self gratification. Knowing that nothing is being done to curtail poverty, the climate crisis and economic inequity and reminding people like yourself of that fact is anything but satisfying. It is profoundly depressing.
10 likesSounds like capitalism, to me. You could work extremely hard for your entire life and still never see a billion dollars, or financial stability, and yet, through no fault of your own, the system still finds a way to fuck you
6 likes@M Phylo Based comrade! We need to dismantle the corrupt and cruel system of capitalism and replace it with a system in which, while yes, you can still be rich, the working class will no longer go hungry, go homeless, etc. We need Socialism
2 likes@Yuli Kitten You're referring to social programs not socialism. Socialism is what tens of millions of refugees try to run from generation after generation.
1 like@Jullien Ricot You are literally Frank Grimes
0 likesThe truth is, the game was rigged from the start
0 likes@Queen Crab That's a beautiful accident.
0 likesIf you make zero mistakes, at worst you neither win nor lose.
0 likes@Zizz Creator in a team based game you can make 0 mistakes and lose
0 likes@Adailton Neto That touches on why I prefer games where winning doesn't require someone else to lose.
0 likesThat was the lesson that we learned in Vietnam. Never lost an Operation, still lost the war.
0 likesNo
0 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness haha
1 like@Driotari you’re life
0 likes@Hillarys Emails I'd say Agent Orange was a mistake.
0 likes@Zizz Creator Agent Orange was an Evil. Not a tactical or strategic mistake. We never lost an Operation, and yet STILL lost the War.
0 likes@Hillarys Emails Forfeiting moral high ground is effectively a strategic mistake.
1 like@Zizz Creator You are arguing Politics and Ethics. I spoke only of Military Science.
1 likeWhen we committed the Errors/Crimes against Humanity, those were self-inflicted wounds. Vietnam and Afghanistan brought down 2 mighty giants...
@Hillarys Emails Ok, nevertheless mistakes were made across various areas & disciplines, but in any case military victory entailed subduing the enemy and they seem to have failed to accomplish that? massively disproportionate body counts notwithstanding? due to a miscalculation of the size of the enemy, what it would take to demoralize them, the practical value of seizing positions, and so on? Vietnam was chaos and only by a very specific and insulated context of WW2 era conflicts was it anything but an abject mistake-ridden catastrophe, but at least it sent a message that US would be "better dead than red", an ultimate victory of sorts?
0 likes@Zizz Creator Actually, after the Tet Offensive, the NVA and VC were essentially wiped out. It was on the Political and Public Opinion fronts that the USA lost the war.
0 likesWalter Cronkite claimed the war "unwinnable" after the USA had already won it. And so they pulled out.
Pathetic. And why the USA is on its knees today. Sabotaged from within.
@Hillarys Emails WOW! Truly? I find that literally unbelievably horrible.
0 likesI would like to be hopeful that US is bending our knee to a just "GOD". Knowing it's foolish to break a social contract with people whose mission is harmony, least of all for the precise opposite? I hope I'm being clear that I don't think US is in any danger unique to them/us.
Every logical conclusion you can speak or write is a construct of human imagination through the language symbols we created ourselves for the purpose of communication. There's no reason or proof that any logical conclusion should or could be an omni-functional tool that will work in every and all situations and problems. edit: The basis of communication relies on faith.
0 likes@dddmemaybe That is so perfectly stated, that it should be above the entrance to every church building.
0 likesI've struggled for 2 decades to say it as perfectly as you have.
@Hillarys Emails Thanks. I've been practicing on my articulation for some time now. >:}
1 likeSo logic=illusion....communicating illusion=faith? Got it...
0 likesevery league of legends player be like
0 likes@Jullien Ricot you must be naive beyond understand.
0 likes@Yuli Kitten "We need to dismantle the corrupt and cruel system of..."
0 likes...living. Life is cruel and life is unfair and to pretend otherwise is foolish. When the lioness kills a baby antelope it doesn't consider whether it's cruel or fair. Even herbivores will prioritize their own survival over those of their herd when it comes to finite resources. Your utopian idealism flies in the face of reality and relies on imagined altruism and selflessness of an elite ruling class that will never exist.
Hannibal almost always won his battles yet the Romans still won the war.
0 likesi remember i was sick for weeks so i watched like 7 seasons of simpsons
0 likesThis ep with frank grimes was great.
0 likesI went to the same highschool as Matt groaning and I feel like the show is told from a Portland perspective
0 likesThe Simpsons is the One Piece of American animation.
2 likesAs a massive fan of the Simpsons, this is the greatest critique and analysis of the show I have ever watched. This absolutely blew me away. The research and attention to detail is beyond fantastic. This made me proud to be a Simpsons fan. Well done Emperorlemon.
11 likesHonestly I found this episode underwhelming
0 likesHomer is like able and being like able is more important than being hard working or smart a lot of the time
0 likesIm 3 minutes and 35 seconds in, music has started, and i see google maps. And I’ve figured it out. This is made in the same style as jon bois and the narration reminds me of secret base and even if it doesn’t take inspiration from either this is beautiful story telling.
0 likes"He had to walk through hell"
2 likes*music starts
*pans on california
And then they later on tried to reference him and bring him back as just another zany villain like Sideshow Bob or Kang and Kodos, completely undermining his original purpose
0 likesthere will Never Ever be another programmer like Terry Davis
2 likesHere I am watching a video that is twice the length of a Simpsons episode written by someone who is younger than the Simpsons. What on earth is going on?
0 likesTo say this was right wing, was an understatement.
0 likesEmpLemom: “Well basically I copied the Simpsons we have now, and this green color here I feel is pretty sharp.”
183 likesViewers: “Agreed, first prize!”
How did Kent Brockman find all that childhood footage of Frank Grimes, especially, the silo explosion?
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A wizard did it
1 likeI like how you zoomed in on Cosby as you said "Responsible and Virtuous role models" like you were ... emphasizing something
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I wonder what it could be? 🤔
1 like@Ragnar right? I just can't seem to put my finger on it
1 likei have never been a fan but all your best jokes are in this one video. the keeps ad, the imdb unity xD lmao
1 likeFlanders has always been Homer's nemesis. Flanders never really hates Homer though like Grimes. Worth exploring. EDIT: I spoke too soon.
0 likes"But before that, he had to go to hell"
943 likesCasually zooms in on Los Angeles.
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Lol
0 likesLA used to be the finest place
1 likeAt that part I thought he would zoom in on Michigan. Because that's where a town called Hell actually exists.
4 likesThanks for explaining the joke
21 likesEvery time I don't explain the joke people ask what's the joke so I have to explain it anyway.
1 like@Stephen Kissane Decades and decades ago....
2 likesLA was still hell according to John Cassavetes when he was at his peak, that place is a hellhole
7 likesIt's not even remotely casual lmao
0 likesJon Bois reference intensifies
0 likes@Sho There's also Hell, Norway.
0 likesIt’s funny cause the Frank Grimes episode was actually the first one I ever watched.
0 likesSurprised you went through this whole video without even the slightest mention of his son who appeared later.
0 likesI wish to be more like Homer
0 likesWhy would you be surprised that somebody who's worked decades(?) at a nuclear power plant is able to afford a two-story house?
0 likes"Do not argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
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-Sun Tzu
16 likesoof, need to remember that some time
3 likes@Timothy Bodette I thought Mark Twain said that
4 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesabeman linkin
2 likes@Placeholder It's a joke. I think attributing quotes falsely to sun tzu specifically came from Technoblade.
10 likes@Xanthopathy thanks
0 likesXanthopathy nah man fake quotes have been circulating way before he did it
0 likes@Vikinghood Bluelight House I think he blew up the whole attributing things to sun tzu though
1 likeAnd that's why you don't use Twitter.
1 likeThese are the most beautiful videos on this site.
1 likeThe American Dream is and always has been an illusion, before even the America existed. America is the representation of the saying "It's too good to be true". Homer Simpson reminds me of Luffy from One Piece. I am techically also from Oregon.
0 likesSome American tv shows are the best ever made but they seem to not know when to stop. South park and the Simpsons should have stopped at season 10.
1 likethat bit about Gen X 5 minutes in... comedy gold...
0 likesNever ever episodes in a nutshell:
472 likesEpisode 1: spongebob squarepants is a metaphor for childhood and adulthood.
Episode 2: wrestling is successful because its players make compelling stories.
Episode 3: Dale Earnhardt aint like other drivers.
Episode 4: CONTEMPLATION OF NECULAR GENOCIDE .
Episode 5: dude gets picked on for playing a pink puffball.
Episode 6: Really good episode of an animated sitcom.
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yep. Peak humanity
17 likesFor some reason I thought this comment was describing the basic structure of a Never Ever episode
28 likesNever ever will each episode have any consistency with the previous episodes.
11 likesnecular
6 likesEpisode 1: adults can be spongebob too
1 likeNecular
0 likesN e c u l a r
3 likes@MrLuckless Episodes 3 and 5 are kinda similar
3 likesI find it fitting that Dale's video was #3
4 likesI'm hoping Episode 7 of NEVER EVER will be on Armond White.
1 like@ProjectFM was dale ostracized like hungry box?
0 likesEmp gets one of his YouTube idols on. It comes full circle.
0 likesThis analysis is OUT-BLOODY-RAGEOUS!!
0 likesI cannot explain how much I relate to the importance of finding one's own bliss in the chaos of today's America. Wanting so greatly to rise out of debt, to no longer be frustrated and insecure about my fellow citizens, to overcome the nihilism and pessimism the country has birthed for me. I will never be happy if I choose to play by the rules of this nature I've been surviving in. We must make our own rules, and rule our own perceptions. We don't have to continue the toxic culture we have been perpetuating. We can simply be, and spread as much joy as possible.
0 likesThis narrator got bars 😬🔥
0 likes“Generation X represented a group of Americans unlike any that came before them”
458 likes....”There will Never Ever be another generation like generation X”?
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You can say that about every generation.
93 likesOr Gen Z, tbh.
7 likes@Mattok101 but most gen z people are depressed and are easily consumed
24 likesOr marketed to
8 likes@Ethan Gooding Yeah and it doesn't even mean anything, it could be a good or bad generation but it's still different that the other generations.
22 likesWell, millenials and Gen X also have a lot in common, and the same can be said of zoomers and millenials.
27 likesA theme in Emp's videos and specifically the Never Ever series is this feeling on how culture affects generations, and how they express their worries and frustrations in different ways. The Simpsons, in a way, is for Gen X what Spongebob is to millenials.
And as a zoomer, who knows what the future holds for us? The clock is ticking, childhood is over. Soon, millenials will be old, and we shall take their place.
@Raymunator i would argue that unlike previous generations the fact we have the internet means there is no longer 'one show' that everyone watches as the internet gives s the freedom to watch whatever niche interest we have rather than all watching one show like SpongeBob or the Simpsons as that's the only thing airing. maybe just the interent will define us as the first generation to have never lived in a time before it.
11 likes@Raymunator I’m pretty sure more than half of millennials weren’t in the age group that watched SpongeBob.
3 likes@Ethan Gooding Not really the generations from the 20s to 40s were very similar just like the ones from the 50s and early 60s
2 likesHonestly Academic Agent has a great series on generations from the Boomers to Zoomers, I recommend checking them out.
2 likesQuite the opposite, really. Every generation going forward is going to be like Gen X; Bitter and resentful of what came before and the pressures put on them, but utterly powerless to do anything of value about it. The shining future we were promised as kids had been long squandered by the time we could enjoy it by people who won't be around long enough to experience the fallout.
0 likesMatt groening specifically said Springfield is in Oregon 2:30
0 likesAs he's from there, it's the inspiration.
here's a NEVER EVER episode idea.
1 like"there would be Never Ever be another game like Minecraft"
i hope this helps
I hated this episode when I first watched it many moons ago. I still do.
0 likesI love that great Vsauce impressions!
0 likesI was hoping you would make another Never Ever. Didn't expect this though.
60 likesActually, the Simpsons is based off of Springfield Oregon.
3 likes"Starting at season 9, The Simpsons began what can only be described as a-"
4 likesOH BOY HE'S GONNA SAY IT
"-long, slow march to mediocrity."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEexefuB62c
"TO PROFESSIONALISM!!!"""" <Homer chugs beer in car>
0 likesOf course there can't be another episode, they already made it.
0 likesFun fact: the two nuclear towers in The Simpsons where Homer works are partially inspired by the Satsop Nuclear Plant in Satsop, WA very close to Evergreen State College. The towers were built, but the stations and reactors were never moved in. They’re still there to this day and there’s an Overstock call center right next to them.
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Actually, they just shut the call center down in January.
8 likes@Silver Surfer Girl damn
1 like@Silver Surfer Girl damn i worked at that call center when i went to tesc
1 likeThe plant was never completed because a proposed budget increase failed, and now they can't demolish it because that would cause issues with nearby facilities and the national park surrounding it. In an odd twist, the site has actually seen success as a film set, being used for several films in the last few decades.
14 likeswhenever my family would go to ocean shores, when we passed the towers we would sing "THE SIMPSONNNSSSS" pretty crazy that the creator went to Evergreen.
2 likesEVERGREEN WHAT
0 likes@XNINE玖久W XW Evergreen State College is where he went to college. It’s in the video
1 like@XNINE玖久W XW evergiven
0 likesI love that television was viewed as “conservative.”
1 likeThe entertainment industry has always been liberal the Overton window has shifted SO MUCH that when we look back, it looks so conservative.
18:41 Real life Homer Simpson Confirmed!
0 likes34:45 that aged well.
0 likesi'm obsessed with all of the simpson liminal space shots
0 likesSaw it was a Never Ever and instantly clicked. Doesn't matter what the topic is, it's bound to be good.
51 likesAww heck. When you said Groening had gone to 'hell' I was sure he went to MCRD San Diego. I'm so sorry he didn't. I'd be more sympathetic.
0 likesMy favorite Simpsons joke of all time was when a Fox News Helicopter flew by the screen and on the side it said, “Not Racist, but #1 with Racists!”
0 likes5:34 By the time they reached adulthood they were met with the worst economy(massive inflation), unthinkable environmental crises (pandemic), and the continued existential dread of nuclear annihilation (ukraine war). Dang, really sums of the last couple years don't it? Crazy time for me to have just graduated college and go out into the "real world". (2022)
0 likesIts pretty cool that you used the cardboard design of the dvd set of season 6 instead of the plastic homer head design when talking about season 6.
0 likesFrank Grimes resembles Michael Douglas' character from Falling Down where he is the embodiment of a classic American worker from a bygone era.
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Yup, Emp surprisingly misses a key part again.
7 likes@Clay3613 they actually do mention that briefly on the DVd commentary
13 likesThis video was amazing.
2 likesThe moral of the story is: don't be Homer's enemy, instead be more like Homer.
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Do you think the writers and creators of the show are like Homer? The show is made for entertainment....
0 likes@CeeStyleDj Sure the show is made for entertainment, but sometimes there are some valuable life's lessons in it.
0 likesOkay, so I accidently tapped on this video while watching a video on early cgi being terrifying, while I was thinking about this video. Wtf are the odds
0 likesMission Hill is still a 10/10
0 likes"responsible and virtuous role models" accompanied by a closeup of Bill Cosby's face fucking sent me to the moon.
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Yeah that joke was a knockout
13 likes@Googie Gress You know what else knocks you out?
13 likesA drink offered by Bill Cosby.
@Karl Tanner That was the point. Thanks!
2 likes@Karl Tanner and in some cases it might even knock you up
1 likesuch a high quality video!
0 likesHey! Just so you know, it'd be more accurate if you'd pronounce the expression "laissez-faire" as "lay-say fair" even though we don't accentuate as much as you do in English.. That's what gives us that shitty accent when we speak in English! 😅
1 likeCheers from France ✌️
Sounds like Gen Z is the new Gen X...
3 likesFrank... in a nutshell
0 likesRepresents that character/personality who, uh,
for what ever reason, CANNOT
"back down"/admit when he MIGHT be a bit wrong.
Control Freak/ "Fanatic"
Instantly loses to Homer's "happy-go-lucky"/"everything will work out" calmness...
Emp pulled the classic "Why do i do the thing?" "Well... Why do you do your thing?" When it came to green Simpsons. It has come full circle and has nowhere else to go. It was good while it lasted, now all that is left is the abyss. Keep up the good work and have a nice day.
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The only thing we have left... the downward spiral...
10 likesThe only thing that’s for sure about Emplemon.... is nothing’s for sure
1 likeThis video posed a question in my head.. who is the least fortunate person alive
0 likesImitation is the greatest form of flattery. Vsauce is funny.
0 likes"responsible and virtuous role models" 🤣☠️
0 likesthe simpsons was anti-establishment, then became the establishment, then got bought by disney, who used to be anti-establishment, and became the establishment
1 likeThe first minute is how every conspiracy theorist sounds.
34 likesAlso, this was a well put together documentary, thank you Emp.
You should definitely do a never ever on MF DOOM there will truly never ever be another
0 likes"Matt Groening had to enter Hell"
0 likespans to LA
Yup. That's Hell alright.
I grew up playing NES, GameBoy, BlockBuster, Walk-Mans, Nerf-Guns. Yes, I went outside to play with friends and do what tweens did. It was great, great, times. I was always happy to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, for I loved to be an American in its prime. Then after, 9/11, I was entering my senior year in high school. I was accepted into college already so yeah I slacked off quite a bit. But when I saw our enemies launched attack on American soil, I could not let that slide. America gave my parents, and I, so much. I joined the Army a year after graduation to really think about my choices. My parents wanted me to go to college, but also respected my choice to hunt and kill the enemy. Thank God I made it in one piece, although I did not see much combat, but a dear friend did not, and another one lost a limb, and was injured pretty bad. Came back, to a different America. 20 years later, I ask myself, why the fuck were we there. With all the PC and gender equality, the BLM movement. It is not the America I grew up in. It hurts me to my very core because it is truly a very special place. You may have to work harder, and life will not be fair, but good things don't last for ever, and The Simpsons is a prime example. I tried watching some of the latest episodes, it was dull and boring, the worse part was that I had to pay to watch such episodes. Exactly, what the Disney corporation wants, to squeeze every drop they can from the soul of the Simpsons. Capitalism.
1 likeEdit: I have to say "Homer's enemy" is in my top 10 episodes. I watched it again not too long ago. Now I understand what the writers were trying to convey to the viewers. Although it is a cartoon, it does not mean it was mean for kids to watch. At least before the latter. My first time watching, Bart acquiring a factory for ONE dollar, I thought, hmmmm would it really be possible. Now, my thought is, yes, Bart now owns a dilapidated building. He now has the monetary obligation of fixing it up to safety standards. Which will cost in the high six figures. He bought a nightmare. He may have had a new playground to exploit, but at the end. It collapses. Was that a subliminal message?
Me: Enjoys all of the Simpsons, new and old
1 likeThe Internet: C O R P O R A T E M E D I O C R I T Y
The author: "I made them yellow because I wanted it to look like something was wrong with their TV sets haha"
414 likesThe Literature teacher:
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@Shin Shaman you can't expect too much from a youtube comment section
38 likesI mean, the door is fucking red
1 like@Shin Shaman Don't you have be to 13+ to use this part of youtube
2 likesThe Literature teacher what?
2 likesContinue please
@David Johnson Try to interpretate media and you maybe realise what more it can give you.
1 likeThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Marcin Markovych is that the literature teacher sometimes over looks and values somethings that wasn`t that important in a story, like: In Romeo and Juliet in some moment a blue door appears, and then they overlooks the door in some philosophical way when the door was blue because Shakespere likes blue.
1 like@Arthur Dias beautiful
0 likes@Sleepypixel I was referencing a Tumblr comic where a guy builds an anime travel machine to revive Shakespeare to ask their teacher what he truly ment by "the door is red" when the teacher described it as describing Shakespeare's anger.
1 likeIt's an interpretation of the comment posted here on how Groening gave a simple response to a question that Emplemon broke down into a meaning. Doesn't mean that Emp is wrong for coming to this conclusion.
Tl;Dr: Describing a simple question into a long answer can be really funny if the question didn't really require it.
@David Johnson anime travel machine
0 likes@Arthur Dias agree
0 likes17:30 I don’t know…I think there’s still frontiers to explore..
1 likeIm glad they made a sequel with Grimes son.
0 likes32:47 Or I guess you could say, a downward spiral.
0 likesDefending Homer in this episode? Do you know how cartoons work? What you think Law of Attraction is a thing too?
0 likesCome on man.
There will never ever be another streamer like Destiny
0 likesSo... what you're saying is... "Homer's Enemy" is really the end of the series creatively and everything that came after that was all just corporate momentum which they allowed to degrade into the very thing they meant to ridicule in the beginning? Hmmp... That took me all of 10 seconds to say. But then I guess that's a writer for you: Taking 41 minutes to say what one could say is 10 seconds. LOL JK It really was a fascinating presentation.
0 likesi always thought the simpsons green to avoid copyright claims
1 likeDamn, mission hill was a classic
0 likes“People have always wondered what would happen to Frank Grimes if he survived past this episode.”
527 likesNickelodeon made a whole show about it 2 years later.
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Is it SpongeBob or am I an idiot?
81 likes@Andy Blanton yes, it’s about squidward
230 likesHow is old grimey anyway?
16 likes@Michael Lumsdon he had a son that was a car mechanic and tow truck driver. So probably homer’s age.
8 likesNickelodeon didn't make it, Steve made it
8 likesIf you plan on doing more Never Ever, I nominate Cosmos: a Personal Voyage
0 likes“Television in the early 80’s” shows step by step
0 likesI am SUPER curious as to why you decided to include a moonman clip after the generation X title @ 5:04
0 likes35:44 HOLY SHIT ITS THE NUGGET HIMSELF
0 likesHomer enjoys life and moves on from all troubles that he’s experienced. He somehow makes his peace with all that and continues doing so.
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What else are you to do? Live in misery?
12 likessomething frank never tried to do is look up homer's past..man has he suffered and done it all..he earned his place at the plant by becoming burns' bootlicker quitting a fun job to support a 3rd kid after quitting and giving up another job that made him happy and praised to one that paid more by lying about the plant being safe where hes hated and which he hates...he tries to raise a good family despite his own family being a mess
15 likes@Asmosis Jones True, he choose to put a crayon in his nose because he couldn't be happy as a man of normal intelligence. He would have ended up as Grimes did.
8 likes@Asmosis Jones Barns just forgot him.
0 likesHomer's Enemy. we would question how unfair it is to live and how come some people can live it up normally. but there's people are just bad guys or people that didn't even need up get all the good stuff. there's really no such thing of 100% fairness. fairness like in games are only limits what you only can do if following the rules. rules are there for a reason but there's some rules that didn't need to be made at all. like you can be yourself inside your own home. but you can't outside of your own home. if you tell a teacher they are actually wrong about what they are teaching you. you the one's wrong no matter what you say and kicked out for a day. is ok to attack but it's not ok to defend yourself. now we getting to the point that you can't do anything at all besides working to the bone for almost nothing. movie "the joker" also points out how unfair are life really is and some of us realize living like sheep (normal people) and wolves (those who break the law for fun) can get away with almost anything while killing sheep is not life.
0 likesbesides all of that. Frank would've live better if he follow some of homer's advice on how to get payed better at work. because if he wasn't so busy thinking working hard while not getting payed much is a way to go. things would've gone better if he found better ways to get payed in a job like everyone at the power plant. but than again the power plant is not being taking care of. so I see his point of view at that point.
Ironic that Fox is now what they went against, conservative and sanitized, just to modern day rather then 80's culture.
1 likeThere will never ever be another Simpson's episode like Steamed Hams.
1 like3:26 but before he could do that he had to go to hell *meet the sniper theme starts playing*
0 likesYou know who else had a dictomy where one was mature and miserable, another idiotic and happy, despite both of them being in technically simillar places?
624 likesSquidward and Spongebob.
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Bro he already made that video
33 likesFirst never ever
14 likesYup, from the first Never Ever episode.
5 likes🤯
1 likenice callback
8 likesI also thought about that
0 likessoooo... you're tellin me, in the 80s and 90s you could just go get a regular job, and live a regular life instead of having 15 years expirence and a Ph.D to quality for an entry level job position?
0 likesNo wonder I loved Mission Hill.
1 likeIf you play this at 1.25x speed, it sounds about normal.
0 likesAwesome work. Subbed
1 likeI feel the Simpsons predicting the future is also in part due to the sheer volume of content.
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That is mentioned in South Park. It's a joke of course but I think it has some merit. Art imitates reality when the volume is so immense etc.
38 likesI'd say it's all but entirely due to the volume.
6 likestoo many coincidences.
0 likes@RatatRatR Look up Illuminati Card Game 1995
0 likesArt throughout history has sometimes been known as Futurism and Art was often look on as "we should reflect on our actions if this is what's being conjured by our societies delineators". It's fair to say that the distribution of variables within a society, the events surrounding it and its collective conscious can conjure up what could be deemed as psychic or foresight, for after all 2+2=4 i.e international political strife and recourse gambits= a war in the coming future. A good example of this is starship troopers
0 likesAll in all the future is as predictable as the many moves that the present variables and occurrence can make
Wow the tone of these videos is so different compared to the last time I watched this channel
0 likesThat music is from Gran Turismo?
0 likesDamn those nostalgic vibes trying to get S license :D
Yea but the way he die was absolutely genius.
0 likesi don't know how many times i have watched this now
1 likeGen Z here and the appreciation for the golden age is still alive and well. Was born in 2002 but essentially grew up watching the earlier seasons and definitely set the standards for subversive comedy in my mind.
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Post Post Modernism is coming, Bo Burnham, Homer's Enemy, and Rick and Morty are the Prologue. In a world where despair is normalised the best way to make people laugh is with hope.
14 likesFuturama was brilliant up until the end of the movies.
0 likesHomer is just being himself. Thats why we relate
0 likesCurrently watching this in the backrooms. Fun times
0 likesRusty Cage/Emplemon crossover? Now i've seen everything!
0 likesTo think a ytper from the 2010's would start producing one of the greatest underground youtube videos and media in the world, what a blessing.
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(by underground I mean not consumed by every other source and person surrounding said video)
4 likes@SpinosaurusStudios you know you cant edit your comment right? also i agree with with what you said
3 likes@eungeran007 nah
1 like@SpinosaurusStudios lol
0 likes@SpinosaurusStudios nah nah nah
0 likes@SpinosaurusStudios nah nah nah
0 likes@SpinosaurusStudios heey heey hey
0 likes@SpinosaurusStudios goooodbye
0 likes38:08
0 likesI'd very much like to know where I can find that chart. Anyone got a link?
Clearly, several times on The Simpsons, they go to the Pacific coastal beach/port/bay/wharf of their Springfield.
0 likes'In Season 8, they pushed further than ever..." * Mario 64's Bower Level music starts playing*
0 likesThis is when you knew shit was getting real
You know, that was an excellent choice of background music👍. I recognized it and it was driving me crazy trying to figure out where I knew it from. I even scrolled through several hundred comments. Then tried Ctrl + F for "music". Finally said "fuck it", started watching the video again when it came to me.
And then I thought to look in the video info and saw you had a list of music 🤦♂
It's called "Bower Road" if anyone wonders.
I think the video clips taken and editing throughout was very professional. In fact, just like your HungryBox video, the entire thing is just very well done in it's production
Season 7: this isn’t even my final form!
0 likesI think the message of this episode is even if someone is ahead of you when they don't deserve to be, giving in to bitterness and hatred will only make yourself suffer.
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Unless it motivates you to the stuff from the people you're envious of - which is probably how envy evolved in the natural world - then envy is good for you. Envy that you never act on, for whatever reason, would obviously be nothing but a source of frustration.
10 likesOf course, good people don't act on such impulses. Hence why envy usually only works for bad people.
@Odin Sørensen Then that's not envy but a kind of "motivation", like " Well, I want that too and I will try hard to get it"
5 likes@Odin Sørensen envy is a deadly sin. It can only lead to suffering, it doesn’t motivate you it just ruins yourself because you focus so much on another person that you forget to look at yourself and the world around you
7 likes@BallisticaMetal What, so if you act on it, then it's no longer envy? If I take something of yours that I'm envious of you for, then surely that counts both as me being motivated to do that and being envious.
1 like@Captainpep "It can only lead to suffering" - obviously we can both imagine some exceptions, some scenario where someone feeling envy leads them to do something that causes a chainreaction that eventually does something, anything, that we might characterize as "good". So spare me the dogma and absolutism. If I point to someone who was envious and it motivated them to do something, will you then claim that it wasn't "true envy", like some sort of True Scottsman?
2 likes@Odin Sørensen envy and motivation are not the same thing. I agree with the dude who responded to you about this, and he’s right. You notice someone has something cool and you feel motivated because you figure “if he can do it, why can’t I?” Of course there can be envy mixed with motivation, but those are two separate things that aren’t working together, you are being motivated while also having bad thoughts about the other person because of their higher status. That’s not a good thing
2 likes@Captainpep I didn't say they were the same. I said envy can be motivating. Don't put words in my mouth.
1 like"those are two separate things that aren’t working together" - Prove it.
"having bad thoughts about the other person" - is that you idea of envy? Because mine is "to wish that you had something that another person has: " - Envy, Cambridge English Dictionary.
It shouldn't be difficult to see how this wish translates into motivation. This is my argument, now damn well address it instead of making more baseless assertions and engaging in fucking tiresome semantics.
@Odin Sørensen that’s jealousy you’re thinking of. Envy is a more dangerous version of jealousy that only brings harm to yourself. But envy can in a way lead to motivation, but once it turns to motivation envy must be gone. Envy only means that you have negative feelings towards somebody due to them having something you do not, and being motivated (as said before) is to try and get to what they have because you believe you can do it. Instead of being envious one should just be motivated
2 likes@Captainpep No, Jealousy is when you're "extremely careful in protecting someone or something (that is yours)". - Cambridge, again. It's related to the word "zealous", and unlike envy it's considered rightful, hence why the bible reads "God Is a Jealous God" without meaning to portray said god negatively. God wants his followers to follow only him.
1 likeThere's some overlap with "envy" in modern dictionary definitions due to linguistic errosion and the "people" who engage in it. Even the Simpsons got this one right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA
"once it turns to motivation envy must be gone" - that's your opinion, not a fact of reality.
"Envy only means that you have negative feelings towards somebody" - You're just making your own definitions, and without addressing my argument on the matter at all, despite me explicitly asking you to.
@Captainpep Envy and jealousy are the same damn thing, please stop whining about semantics
0 likes@Abyss Reborn envy and jealousy aren’t the same thing friend
0 likes@Captainpep as Odin Sørensen pointed out in his proper reply to you. Yet you completely ignored him
0 likes@lizard legend sorry I didn’t completely read his reply, but I get where he’s coming from. In the English language jealousy can mean many different things and he’s completely right in what he’s saying about jealousy, but jealousy can also be a less severe version of envy. Like someone can be jealous of someone’s car, someone can be envious of someone else’s lifestyle. Stuff like that
0 likes@Odin Sørensen envy means you’re discontented or resentful or longing aroused by someone else’s possessions, qualities, or luck. That’s the definition of envy. Jealous is feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages. The difference between the two is that jealousy can be defined as very watchful or careful in guarding or keeping, and where envy is as previously stated in its textbook definition. It is true that envy is a motivator, but that doesn’t mean the feeling of being envious is a good thing. Homer Simpson is a mix between the two, he is jealous in that he is very watchful of neds advantages and is envious as he complains a lot about neds advantages
0 likes@Abyss Reborn the hell is that supposed to mean
0 likesdamn i never heard someone say laissez faire like that
0 likes"American dream" "lassez faire" JUST SAY CAPITALISM ONCE
0 likesI never knew it was pronounced 'graining' i always thought it was 'groaning'
0 likesyeah, it's a decent episode
0 likesIt's interesting seeing the old Simpsons message board and even usenet discussions and their influence live on and shape the show's discussion even to this day. The fringe nerds have won!
27 likesNice to see you on here @TheRealJims. Great episode from both of you!
She perhaps needs to borrow future Barts ‘Rag on a stick’ ?
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Once family guy came out it was over but I look back on the Simpsons my youthful years just great nestalgia
0 likesI have spent years trying to find where the Simpsons are. I haven't found the date but I have compiled a list of 53 states that they are not in.
2 likesНу я не сомневался, что великий эпизод про сужающийся дом фландерса из лучшего сезона Симпсонов
0 likesThis takes me back! My household as a child had cheap analog television sets, and sometimes The Simpsons would be green because someone either lifted the TV or messed with the knobs.
30 likesLove the VSauce gag 😂
0 likesI think my fave episode is Mountain of Madness. Where Homer and Mr Burns get trapped under an avalanche and go crazy
0 likesI don't appreciate the defeatist 'things can't be perfect so it's wrong to improve them' sort of moral that comes through around three fifths of the way through the video, but it's interesting on the whole. ('Nothing is inevitable' is a moral I prefer.)
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I personally had to stop watching once it started pushing right-wing type narratives.
0 likesFrank grimes was my favorite episode
0 likesHe got what he was asking for
0 likesTheres lore to a dumb show?
0 likesBEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!
WAIT FOLKS STOP THE MUSIC!
0 likesDid EmpLemon just call animation a genre?
Animation is a medium capable of all genres.
"it's not hard to understand why many in Gen X had no choice but to view the world with apathy" oh so just like us then, see Gen X we are similar
0 likesWho else would like to see a “There will never ever be another Malcolm in the Middle.” I think it would be a perfect fit for these types of videos.
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Great show that one. Really love the fact there's no moronic laugh track and it takes things even further than The Simpsons in many ways
50 likes@Christhjian first 2 seasons were great relatable and realistic then after that it became out there and bizzare the ratings also plummeted.
16 likesOh man totally
0 likesI want him to do a "there will Never Ever be another video game series like Metal Gear Solid."
11 likes@TVB Oof, Metal gear solid is not just a game... It's an experience... It's the video game in its purest form.
6 likesI can count with one hand how many games use the medium at its fullest.
It was a very dark comedy, where the characters never win and things only seem to get worse for them, with few exceptions. Kind of gives an Apathy of darkness vibe, which is very depressing to watch. My only main complaint is that the overall message from the show, which was said in the end, is that nobody will stick up for the little guy working 50+ hours/week, while a bunch of the episodes has the family catch a break in a the form of some golden ticket and for them they to f4ck it up and lose everything. They want to paint it as the man putting the foot down on their necks, whereas truth be told, most of their hardships are brought on by themselves.
10 likesi watched it back in i think 2016 (or 14 idk). it was rlly good
1 likeI would love that, but I have feeling next Never Ever will be about video game.
1 like"I bet I could eat 100 quacks"
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Picky Physics Student they imitated the quirky situational comedy of the simpsons, but forgot all the warmth and genuine happiness that was the basis.
0 likesI was very hesitant as a child to like that show but after a few episodes I fell in love. Ugh I miss those "real" shows. Disney had it going for a while too with Lizzie McGuire but the success of Hannah Montana proved that unrealistic fantasies of wealth and fame were more appealing
0 likesmalcom in the middle is dope
0 likes5:39 TINY note. AIDS was and is a health and sociopolitical crisis, not environmental so it's weird that you used the time magazine cover in that moment.
0 likesseeing the Simpsons not be green in an emplemon video feels wrong
0 likesI can think of a few other Never Evers. And no, this isn't a please/suggestion comment. These are some of the things I enjoy.
0 likesThere will Never Ever be another game like Retro Mario
There will Never Ever be another singer like Michael Jackson
There will Never Ever be another voracious storyteller like Eskoz
There will Never Ever be another developer like Masahiro Sakurai
There will Never Ever be another savior like Jesus Christ
zooming in on cosby's fuckin grinning face just as you said "responsible and virtuous role models" was fucking hilarious
1 likeIs this the greatest video on YouTube? Could be.
0 likesSimpsons seasons 1-7 Family guy seasons 1-4 and Arrested Development seasons 1,2 and 3 and all of Mad Men are my favorite Television.
1 like"in a way all of us live in springfield"
0 likesgreetings from germany!
My man explaining the simpsons like it’s the nuclear formula
0 likes"Lisa, if you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way."
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I’m not kidding you whatsoever; this quote literally made me shoot HOT DOG out of my nose!
37 likes(I don’t know about anyone else, but, but that was a first for me!)
@cxphy I know, right??! That’s kind what went through my head at that moment! (Other than, you know, hot dog). I was eating supper when I read the comment, never laughed so hard solid matter passed through my nasal cavity before, of course I had to share. (Definitely not my finest moment, for sure!)
19 likes@Loco Madman a whole ass hotdog (or half eaten?) that just shoots up your fuckin' nasal cavity, shit chief you might wanna get that checked out
12 likes@cxphy no, not the whole damn thing (obviously) bwahahaha. Just a regular sized, decently chewed bite.
12 likesBut lemme tell ya, there is no way to chew quite enough for hot dog to pass easily through the nose comfortably; trust, man!
@Loco Madman holy shit
10 likesI've applied that quote many times in my working career
2 likes@AngH3ll has anyone not done soul-crushing labour for a paycheque at least once in their life? It’s a rite of passage to adulthood! 😂
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesYeah the French strike
0 likes@Loco Madman yeah that happened to me too and man its horrible when it gets stuck inside your nose and you have to blow it out
0 likes@psxc something I hear ya! Ain’t nothing like blowing out spicy-mustard laced all beef snot rockets; blah!! 🥵
1 likeI took that to heart but in spanish "Lisa si no te gusta tu trabajo, no protestas, solo vas todos los días y lo haces de mala gana.
1 like@Raul Rojas ha! That’s the second time that’s happened to me this weekend; I’m a Cree Native Canadian dude, comprehendo Español no bueno; that’s more than I can easily translate on my own or can easily feed into Google translate. My email is “rollingwithmylocomotion”! 😂
0 likeshe nailed that vsauce bit tho
0 likesHank Hill is Frank Grimes in another universe.
0 likesDude that was an amazing vsauce parody
0 likesOh yeah the Simpsons Hotbline to play us out. Great video man
0 likesI'm scared because I know that one-day emp will post "there will never ever be a show like this" and end this amazing series.
50 likesgrimes and homer is so relatable because it's basically cain and abel in yellow
0 likes"krusty gets busted."
0 likesYeah.
Millionaires you are
4:41 this has not aged well
0 likesAbsolutely love the Gran Turismo 3 music towards the beginning.
0 likesi've had a script about how perfect this episode is sitting in my notes for months. you beat me to the punch!! but i'm so glad more people have such a strong appreciation for it though- it's always been really controversial but i think it's one of the best pieces of writing i've ever seen.
13 likesOne thing , biopic isnt pronounced like bio-pic more like bi-opic if that makes sense
0 likesI feel like we are currently living in a modern day Gen X
0 likesEvil homer simpson be like: I am homer simpson
0 likes@emplemon 19:19 You claim Laissez faire (the concept of eliminating external, authoritative control to allow for free agency) "created Homer and it also created Mr. Burns." How could a concept -- that by definition lacks coercive or creative properties -- 'create' anything, let alone be responsible for an individuals identity? This is where I stopped the video.
0 likesI feel like you fully missed Frank’s flaw: it wasn’t an obsession with fairness, but an obsession with materialism. I think that accepting inequality and giving up on fairness is a one way ticket to a society in slow decline.
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big agree. i feel like a lot of emps takes boil down to “nothing is ever going to get better and any real change is impossible” which is strange to me honestly
17 likesAgree here. The video is well produced, but I think too much of it is in support of just giving up on social change to improve the lives of those forgotten by america as a social system. Accepting life as unfair is good and all, when you aren't actively being persecuted and jailed by the government based on skin color, heritage and where you live.
22 likesYeah, a lot of his takes come from that ‘life goes on, whether you like it or not’ mentality
2 likes@TimBagels that's not what the video was remotely about. If you want something to hyper focus on skin color that's not the Simpsons being yellow or green look elsewhere. And this is the black guy saying that
34 likesfeels like Emp follows that "nothing gets better, real change might not be possible, life goes on the way it does so just accept it and move forward." mindset
2 likes@LuckoDaStars the only good take on this thread
9 likesWorking towards more fairness is good, but unfairness will always exist in some form, so you need to learn to tolerate it. IE: Working to narrow the wealth gap is good, but expecting every human on earth to be paid an amount equal to the amount they work is incredibly unrealistic.
20 likes@The Ledge Disregard my previous statement, there is now a second good take.
6 likes@gote it's not strange. The details may have changed a bit, but the humans of today are just as cruel and petty and dumb as the humans from thousands of years ago. Most addictions can be explained by taking into account that we're still relying on our ancestral instincts as hunter-gatherers. The deepest parts of our brains, the ones that developed over millions of years, or if you believe in Jungian memes, the collective subconscious, are still catching up to society. Our immediate behavior may change quickly, but our true nature doesn't.
1 likeUnless, of course, you go full eugenics, then maybe you can change one's fundamental instincts too. They tried domesticating foxes in Russia, it only took a couple of generations before they became tame. However, they weren't as tame as dogs, they still retained some more wild traits.
"But muh free choice and rationality" stop believing in memes, rationality only works for very small groups. You can build a rational commune, but you can't create a rational nation. The masses are inherently irrational, they're driven by those base instincts that we still haven't abandoned.
its the other way around. His obsession with fairness was based in materialism, as its a very visible way to distinguish both fairness and inequality.
6 likesI see it more as saying that you shouldn't be obsessed with absolutes, the world will never be completely fair, that's just crazy to pursue, it will drive you crazy because of the impossibility of it
1 likeDang
0 likesMoonman…
1 likeThose who know: 🙂
Those who know: 👻
“Hey Homer, you busy??” “Yes!!”
0 likes10:37 guy on the right looks like the chef from ratatouille
1 likeme 10 min in: "when are they goign to get to the fireworks factory"
0 likes"But before he could [create the Simpsons], Matt Groening had to enter Hell."
342 likesproceeds to show Los Angeles, California in a red hue
Only the truth.
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No one:
4 likesLos Angeles: so, you have choosen death
LA can be bad but it gives you lots of oportunities, there are a lot of cities that are infinitly worse and have 0 oportunities
7 likesI would definitely rather live in California than Alabama
9 likes@Z-Form At least in Alabama, there's actual human beings. Commiefornia is run by NPCs and insane Left Winger Cultists.
25 likes@Kurt There are no human beings in Alabama. Only confederate sympathizers
8 likes@atur chomicz LOL, if you think that's a "Neo Nazi" thing, you haven't encountered commiefornians.
12 likes@Z-Form And since you've never been to Alabama, you know nothing of it.
12 likes@Kurt There is no actual Labour Movement in any part of the US, no matter how often your Propaganda Channel Fox News keep perating that the Reds are destroying the US. The US is at this point being drained of all of its resources including the Working Class. Revolution is coming but simply when is the question....
5 likes@Kurt I too insult an entire state because I disagree with there opinion
6 likes@Z-Form you live in the south but your section isn’t representative of the entire south
4 likesAnd from what I can tell you got the bad section, doesn’t mean an entire state is
@Z-Form Yeah, I'm sure you do "live in the south".
3 likes@Kurt I live in Kentucky lol
1 like@Z-Form Right. Sure you do.
2 likes@Mareo Mattengo I live in New York the South save for maybe Disney World can all burn in hell.
0 likes@Mareo Mattengo Given how California is a shithole, while Alabama isn't. And if the south is so bad, and California so good, why is everyone leaving Cali for here?
1 like@Kurt Grimes? Is that you? Wishing for the downfall of another won't fill the empty hole in you. Did you even watch the video?
1 like@Kurt " Preserve my way of life," where have I heard that before? And have you ever lived in California? Some towns have more in common with the great economic powerhouse states of Oklahoma and Arkansas than they do with Los Angeles and San Francisco. And those " ideas" that you fear so much have already made it to red states. The divide is not exactly red vs blue but rather urban vs rural. Try to go out some more and don't fret too much about politics. It's not good for you mental health.
1 like@Kurt I live in kentucky he's bullshitting
1 like@John Queen Not necessarily, covington isn't nearly as bad as let's say portland. Urban areas do tend to be leftist for a variety of reasons but they do vary in terms of how much leftist they are. Regardless, I 100% agree with the other guy these people and their beliefs are vermin to our society and I don't want them to ruin my area like they have ruined my entertainment.
1 likeDaily reminder that a significant part of California wants to secede as a separate state to get away from the coastal cities.
2 likes1:15 music plays
0 likesAh, I see you’re a man of culture. Will you let me have this dance, purple 1997 Nissan Skyline GTR?
"in a way all of us live in springfield"
0 likesspeak for yourself, I'm in Berlin. NOT usa..
Great review!
0 likesI can't be the only one to notice the jingle at 24:30...
0 likesIt was also used in Gran Turismo 4.
This is one of my favorite episodes. I've never really seen it as mean-spirited like some do. Homer was never outright malicious and Frank's death was really his own doing. This episode shows an unfortunate reality that some just have it easier than others despite not working all that hard.
14 likesFrank grimes…another exhibit of the squidwardian psyche
0 likes0:53 if you cant recognize this picture, well then you can just get out.
1 likeMy church pastor when I was in high school looked like Ned Flanders had jumped off the screen.
0 likes3:00 Instantly after hearing this song come up Sniper came to my mind
0 likes"The greatest art doesn't give us all the right answers, it makes us ask the right questions"
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- Khada Jhin, probably
6 likesGreat art speaks truth often unintended by its creator.
6 likesEnter: banana taped onto canvas
0 likesI can remember when the Simpsons was just a short cartoon on the Tracey Ullman show.
0 likesI bet she regrets it now tho, as I'm not sure many people will have any idea who Tracey Ullman even is lol. But EVERYBODY can tell you who 5he Simpsons are.
Wrote that ^^^ before it shows us Tracey Ullman. Doh!
Ur vsauce impression is 🥇 gold
1 like2:43 the i95 runs from FL all the way up the east coast, so you already can tell it's more than just one place in the states.
0 likesSpringfield is most likely located in organ based on their tax structure. Not to mention many roads in Matt groaning home town have the same name as Simpsons characters, like quimby street. The name proves nothing but it’s fair to assume that Springfield was somewhat inspired by Springfield organ.
0 likesThis might be the best video on YouTube.
0 likesThere Will Never Ever Be Another Video Game Like Portal 2
2 likeswaiting for one of these episodes
1 like-there will Never Ever be another youtuber like kitty0706
-there will Never Ever be another band like Nirvana
-there will Never Ever be another album like Kid A
-there will Never Ever be another musician like Jimi Hendrix
-there will Never Ever be another genre/movement like Punk
-there will Never Ever be another game like Team Fortress 2
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Half of those are good. The other half horrible
0 likes@Veikka what’s horrible?
0 likesFrank Grimes dying and the bad guys destroying the world in Final Fantasy 6: moments in excessive 90s pop culture that smartly “went there”. Today though, The Simpsons reminds me of the power of knowing when to end it and how the ending punctuation shapes perception of the whole.
0 likesFun Fact: This is the second Never Ever that lasts 41 minutes
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And the middle of them all in terms of time (shortest is E1, longest is E5).
4 likesWhich isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
7 likesI think we need some classical American heroes right now to fix the supply lines. My modern American hero cycle has ground to a halt lately.
0 likes2:58 bro seriously put meet the sniper music in the background. Madlad.
0 likesWay to stick the fuckin landing on this video emp. That was some poetry. These YouTubers are going crazy nowadays
0 likesGreen is fitting for Zombie SImpsons
1 likeI feel like you could write a never ever on several dozen of Simpsons episodes, they were one of the sharpest and smartest episodes to exist (during a period of time)
26 likesWoah nice vsauce intro! nostalgia hit me like a mf
0 likesHomer represents laissez-faire? That is a rather glib interpretation.
0 likes"I mean, To be, or not to be: that is the question:
0 likesWhether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep"
-not sure
Never Ever is Pretty Good.
1 likebest part of the episode is millhouse working for bart.
109 likes"So, this is my life now, At least i did better than dad"
Besides the americsn version of shsmeless Macy isnt really know for being working class. Unless you were upper-middle or upper-class , then the roles might be appear to be working class to you. Working class is a nicer way of saying poor person.
0 likesI wish he would do one on Barry bonds
0 likesHomer abuses his son.
1 likeJust so no one forgets.
Bravo my mans I just relived my entire childhood 👏👏👏
0 likesThe Simpsons achieve the american dream as Homer geting paid for nothing, they are geting money for a not that good seasons, and as it was said here, THEY ARE HEROS for being able to be release bad episodes and still get a ton of money, life isn't fair but as FOX we have to take advantage of the stablishmemnt, some of us like the simpsons now should stop being hard working like Frank Grimes and become more like Homer.
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Amen to that. As a certain suave captain once said, "Take what you can, given nothing back!"
1 likeDo “there will never ever be another band like Pink Floyd” next
0 likesi have always said that the only good episodes are the ones that are in 4:3 aspect ratio, never knew that it was an actual thing though just thought it was my single opinion that was like that lol
0 likesdude the vsauce parody is hysterical
1 like24:19 idk why but the bowling ally thing just gave me a rush of mixed emotions that were probably stronger than what was warranted.
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I had exactly the same reaction, I’ve been replaying that part I love it so much
7 likesThis episode when Simpsons became terrible and unwatchable for me. Totally lost its heart when they kill Grimes.
0 likesThe season after this was so terrible and I've never enjoyed Simpsons since
homers enemy wasnt that great in my opinion
1 likeI came for a copper, but found a gold.
1 likeGlad this episode tried to destory the Hollywood Humble bullshit
1 likeI can't believe this episode was were the green joke started
94 likesIt's like poetry
It rhymes
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Grimes
11 likes@Scientist Walter It all comes full circle
5 likesMadness often rhymes - Sheogorath
1 likeI always thought it was pronounced "Groan-ing"
0 likesI appreciate the Mario music in the background throughout the video :)))
0 likesTo quote a reddit bot:
0 likes"Did you mean the Queen of the United Kingdom, the Queen of Canada, the Queen of Australia, etc?
The last Queen of England was Queen Anne who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England."
Oh man, that Fall Preview TV Guide was like a second Christmas every year. They still make TV guides? Does the TV guide channel even still exist?
0 likesI was such a fucking nerd. Still am.
Homer is everyone's spirit animal; the one we either hide from or embrace.
39 likesHis parents…Homer and Marge!? 🤯
0 likesThat VSauce parody was spot on
0 likes3:36
0 likesSNIPING A GOOD JOB MATE
So, Squidward, got it
2 likesThere is no Homer Simpson, there is no Mickey Mouse, and there is no Queen of England
212 likes"until now this was the only way to prevent hair loss". Although I've seen keeps ads since like 2019
0 likesI like to think that Springfield is just the 51st state
1 like3:26 Please do not knock the land that I love.
0 likesWait. Matt’s Parents Share The Same Name As America’s Most Known Couple?!
0 likesNow, the Simpsons are everything they originally stood against.
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They have become the very thing they swore to destroy
13 likesYep, bowed down to the npcs and the Twitter mobs. Of course the status quo has changed shape (its no longer pearl clutching older conservatives, hasn't been for at least a decade, it's now stuffy rich corporate identity politicking woke weirdos) . Its strange how some people can see the bullshit and others are blind to what's going on.
9 likes@midnightshade32 It has nothing to do with "npcs" (which aren't a thing outside of video games) or "the Twitter mobs". Work out your shit. The Simpsons isn't a part of it.
4 likes@nyanuwusays the guy with the twitter bird pfp
4 likes@Lobotomy Correct. Didn't make any sort of a point, but correct.
0 likes@nyanuwu I did make a point, maybe you were too busy using Twitter to see it. My point was that obviously if some person has a Twitter pfp they are gonna defende it like a fanboy.
0 likes@nyanuwu also, in addition to my previous explaination, you misunderstood the meaning of NPC in this context
0 likesHas the canon finale already happened in The Simpsons? LMK in the replies. ⤵️
1 like5:45.... in under 3 decades we just made all the same fucking mistakes up to circa 2021 and ongoing. what an utter joke of a nation we are.
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"we"
0 likesBart saying "Quality shmaulity, if I had a TV show I'd run that sucker into the ground" is one of the most elaborate jokes ever.
3 likesIt's up there with Luigi's beta model from Super Mario 64 being released 24 years and 1 month after the game's original release date, finally confirming L is real 2401.
Yeah yeah, but when are we going to get a full hour episode talking about the TRUE greatest episode "E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)"?
0 likes18:55 "Lazzey Fair"
0 likesEmpLemon - 2021
Lol that close-up of Bill Cosby.
0 likesThe Simpsons ended the moment the stopped doing hand drawn animation.
0 likesOnce they went to animating on the computer. It has been terrible ever since.
This is an incredible video
0 likesIt’s incredible that a character who only appeared once in a show that has 600 episodes is still so memorable to this day.
6 likesHomer:Age of enemy
0 likesI've been stood on the stairs for half an hour, can't move my legs. Help !!!
0 likesWith my colorblindness, I would not have noticed the colorshifted Simpsons if you hadn't mentioned it. 😅
0 likesContinuing shows until you run them into the ground is the American way.
0 likescame for the "how the fuck could anyone get 41 minutes out of discussing this," stayed for the Adam Curtis-level vivisection we just witnessed.
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Vivi...what now?
4 likes@Kazuma K. You know...vivisection. In a scientific sense, that means cutting an animal or person for research. But in this sense...it's an extremely in-depth criticism or analysis.
8 likesPerfectly possible for someone to spend ten hours talking about a single episode of a television show if there's enough to say about it.
3 likesNext episode of Never Ever: Star Wars the Clone Wars
1 likeThe Gran Torismo 4 music in the video was very nostalgic. Thank you.
0 likesHomer? Now where have I heard that name before?
0 likesI thought Frank Grimes was a 1:1 for the look of D-FENS from Falling Down, huh!
0 likesI think you mixed up capitalism and alcohol.
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Well, I'm first here what's up Whang!
23 likesA dangerous combination
93 likesHeh.
4 likesFun mix
5 likesI came here right after I watched your video lmao
3 likesLol
0 likesWhang! Didn’t expect to see u here
3 likes@Jack Winter It is not unexpected at all
7 likes@Mr. Fancypants Or, you could try to at least sound like a respectable and empathetic human being. Just a suggestion.
32 likesTrue
0 likes@kingd8 He has got my respect and empathy
4 likes@Jonas Seorum I understand where they're coming from. It's true that like-farming comments are rampant these days. The wording is, how shall I put it, a bit strong, though.
12 likes@kingd8 He didnt attack the guy personally though, he only said his comment was trash.
3 likes@Jonas Seorum Fair enough.
2 likesBoth are poison
6 likesThey're the same picture .-.
0 likes@kingd8 Here's the thing that bothers me to; that checkmark comments always come in leaving allmost all the time these empty unrelated comments to the video that aren't even funny or remotely usefull.
8 likesThen they get upvotes from sheep fans just because they watch them and leave these awfull stupid reply's like: HuH? WhaT ArE YoU DoIng HeRE? As if it is not normal that other people watch video's to.
And they don't even reply to anything said under they'r comment making it double useless as it shows they simply don't care.
Watch this: Hey whang! I think your channel is as creative as a dying artist who thinks he still got it but is completely out of touch.
Watch them 90% not even read any of our reply's.
Quite honnestly i think youtube would be better if the comment section didn't have a like or dislike option.
Well you literally cant have one without the other. Im just glad im not an alcoholic
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants Actually the comment was about a reference Emp made to a joke from Season 8, Episode 18: Homer vs The Eighteenth Amendment
20 likes@Whang! Someone finally proved me wrong.
3 likes@Whang! holy shit lmao he called you out and you came through 😂 love to see it!
2 likes@Whang! I love it when someone's self righteous hallucination gets crushed in such a simple and harmless way.
4 likesYou would know! 100 beers a day!
0 likesGuess you could say that's a whang-y mixed up.
0 likesWhacky, huh? Huh? B)
@Mr. Fancypants Don't be such a tool.
1 like@Zidders Roofurry tools are usefull tho.
1 like@M i don't. You people seem to tho 👀
0 likes@kingd8 why?
0 likescommon mistake
0 likes@Jonas Seorum did he delete his comment?
0 likesWhat's the difference?
0 likesOnly 58 seconds into the video so I have no idea what you're talking about yet but, this comment looks hilarious out of context.
0 likesI recognize you.
0 likesBoth get you drunk!
1 likeImplying those aren't correlated
0 likesCapitalism breeds alcoholism.
2 likesAnd some salt of Philosophy
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
1 likeThanks Whang. You ruined us all.
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants Why the e-peen hostility over a lame comment at all? Did alot stuff get deleted? It seems just like a throwaway thought from a fan of Whang and Da Emps.. not sure of what he did really for you to shame him about like-baiting;which if this is considered baiting, then fucking shit do you have to hate people that address the creators at all rather than just contextually arguing about videos content.
1 likeReally don't see what's going on here, but regardless, Reddit is more your thing methinks if you're so righteous over the Updoots.
My whang is green
0 likesFancy seeing you here
0 likes@The Green Simp You should probably get that checked out.
0 likesBy a doctor.
@AudiosurfArchive if it was any color other than green then I'd check with a doctor
0 likesWhat do they have in common? Restricting either never pans out well.
1 like“It is the problem and the solution”
0 likesI mean…easy to do.
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants You need help kiddo.
0 likes@Mel Gibson thank you mel gibson inpersonator
0 likes@Mr. Fancypants No problem OG triple OG
0 likes@Mel Gibson you are my best homie.
0 likeshi Whang!
0 likesI read your post 20 minutes before it was applicable & so eloquently appropriate. Well done, Sir!!
0 likesAt the bar, it’s called a Cosmopolitan
0 likesOh shit! What are you doing here Whang?
1 likeDisney is running it into the ground by changing all the characters to make way to it woke sooooo
1 like7:32 it laided the ground work for the media of today which in a ironic way killed it satire cant. Exist if its run out of things to mock it was so successful that it hunted its prey to exstinction and others copied it
0 likesthat was a fantastic essay
1 likewhy did emplemom uses green as comparisan to the simpsons' yellow skin? because frank grimes was green with envy
1 likeI watched Homer's Enemy when I was a kid and I'm Gen X. I actually empathized with that character because they were one of the only logical characters in the series and what they said made complete sense to what was going on. It looked horribly unfair and unlucky and the episode optimized both points to the absolute maximum then killed the character off at the end rather than making them join the springfield insanity after his outburst.
10 likesWhatever philosophical point you think the episode was trying to make is vastly overthinking it. The quotes you linked definitely confirm what I was thinking then. They essentially brought someone "from the real world" into Springfield, they were disgusted and driven insane by what they see and die in a crazed filled outburst. After that the community figuratively urinates on the corpse.
The allusion to Ned Flanders was interesting but Homer has done so much damage to Ned Flanders over the episodes that it never felt like a situation that had you empathizing with Homer. In fact, many times had you empathizing with Flanders, who didn't really do anything wrong but kept having bad things happen to him. The portrayal of the Flanders vs the Simpsons was not even somewhat as one-sided as this episode.
This episode was memorable because it genuinely felt like the makers no longer liked the Simpsons and wanted to bury it in the most overt way possible. And its why its the last episode of the cartoon I had really cared about watching.
This is a dope breakdown
0 likesY'all just watch videos like this and think: mhm , i understood almost nothing . Like is it just me or
0 likesWith the recent news, I have to bring this up.
1 likeDo this, it would make me happier.
“There will Never Ever be a Minecraft Player Like Technoblade”
Next: There will never ever be another channel like EmpLemon
1 likeMarried With Children walked so The Simpsons could sprint into an endless marathon.
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I'd watch a 5 hour video about how Married with Children were the real pioneers of "anti-sappy" dysfunctional family TV
32 likesall in the family too
5 likesAl Bundy is a better hero than superman
16 likes@Below The Dot There's E! True Hollywood Story's episode of Married With Children, which goes into its development, vision of showing a realistic American family, its rise in popularity due to its counterculture elements, and various controversies that arose from its content.
3 likesYup, that show was the real anti-sitcom pioneer.
2 likes@Below The Dot Even then, the Bundys may be the pioneers, the Bunkers were there before.
2 likesAll in the Family is what the American family was like worts and all, and no character fills that role more than Archie
The lovable bigot, he was an assertively prejudiced blue-collar worker, World War II veteran, who longs for the old days where his opinions were the norm, though unlike bigots who are motivated by hateful racism or prejudice. His ignorance and stubbornness seem to cause his malapropism-filled arguments to self-destruct
His kind-hearted wife Edith enders his old viewpoint with a smile on her face, even though she defers from her husband's opinions on the rare occasions when Edith takes a stand, she proves to have a simple but profound wisdom. Despite their different personalities, they love each other deeply.
Their daughter Gloria is a mix of both of them, taking the kind-hearted parts from Edith, but the stubborn from her father, she manifests as childishness, later as a more mature feminism
and then there is the son in law Michael, a character that is everything Archie hates, a good-hearted and well-meaning hippy who is just as stubborn as his father in law
Simpsons have sucked very hard since at least 2005
0 likes@Nick Rustyson Archie Bunker was right about everything, Meathead was the ignorant one. You overthink it.
0 likes@Anthony Weiner`s Nose Okay there Archie, it's time to go back to bed
0 likesGrimes reminds me of falling down
0 likesTrying to control other people's lives is the easiest way to make oneself and someone else miserable.
0 likesembarrassingly, my first emplemon video. Absolutely Gas. edit: oh shit a rusty cage cameo
0 likesYou know what I think? Frank isn't successful because he isn't happy. Maybe if he found happiness, he could be successful?
0 likesSimpsons ran it's course by the late 90s. It's astounding that it's still on and even more astounding that some people actually watch it
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It's now a normie show for a mainstream that is much more cancerous than the mainstream it parodied.
16 likes@Zorro9129 Agree 100%
6 likes@Zorro9129 found the redditor
3 likes@Harlemfries found the person who has never used reddit
7 likesbecause its a fine show. Not really a big deal
2 likesI dont think I've watched a new episode in at least 15 years, and it used to be a "can't miss" until about ~2000ish, give or take?
2 likes@Hercules Rockefeller, Esq. im w you there bro, i knew the show had changed drastically from what it was in the 90s but i didnt know why or how.. good to know im not the only one 👍
1 likeI was born in 84 and still watch in just to see if I can catch a glimpse of what I loved from my childhood. so far, so no.
0 likes@Harry Derosnec That person has ALL of my respect
0 likes33:57 THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT DISNEY; I BORN IN 1970, SAW STAR WARS ORIGINALLY, RIGHT THEN I VOWED I WOULD SEE EPISODE 9, EVEN THO THERE WEREN'T ANY PLANS FOR IT. I ONLY KNEW THAT "STAR WARS, A NEW HOPE." WAS EPISODE 4 OUT 9. I HAVE AVOIDED SUICIDE, AND PRISON FOR DECADES, JUST TO SEE EPISODE. I AM BETTER NOW, BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE EPISODE 9 NOW THAT DISNEY OWNS IT
0 likesThen I guess it's Springfield, Oregon where the Simpsons live lol
0 likesMaybe homer is right by dumping water on the security dashboard, they never died in a meltdown, except some episodes
0 likesI want Hank Azaria to narrarate my life
0 likes"The greatest art doesn't give us all the right answers. But the right questions"
27 likesTop tier content
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thats an old adage of philosophy, not like he invented the phrase
0 likes@Nemo U Fair enough. I liked how he used the phrase.
0 likesWhen will there Never Ever be another music genre like Vaporwave?
0 likesI think that you're treating fiction as a perfect depiction of real life a bit too much.
1 likeThe Simpsons is mind control excreted from CIA agents.
0 likesAlthough I feel like the new episodes of The Simpsons
0 likesThis is basically the philosophy of Marcus Aurelius
416 likes"The quality of one's life reflects the quality of his thoughts."
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Damn Straight
2 likesor maybe the quality of one's thoughts reflect the quality of his life😁
16 likesthanks, anime girl
1 likeThat only works as long as your basic necessities are taken care of. If you're starving with no food, good thoughts won't make your life better.
11 likes@Paul Webb laughs in asceticism
7 likes@Paul Webb All philosophy goes out the window when you're reduced to a beast struggling everyday for survival alone.
13 likesOr I should say, your mind can still change most situations, even if it's only to find glory in dying trying to change said situation as so many people did against oppression. To be reduced to a beast without hope is tragedy, but to maintain one's mind through adversity is triumph.
@Paul Webb dude you need to learn about epictetus, the grand master of stoicism. his early life was total shit, born into slavery and suffering. he only stayed sane and freed himself by freeing his mind. moreso than even in those "good" circumstances does good thoughts and the philosophy of freedom and keeping the only things you can control matter. Many stoics would argue that we are more enslaved than ever when we arent challenged and have all we want.
7 likes@Paul Webb Great. Who the hell is starving man? Not that many people. thanks to capitalism more people as a percentage have been lifted out of poverty in the last 30 years than all of history.
3 likes@Kat Licks Have you read any of the stoic texts? They wrote them with exactly these situations in mind. For them, philosophy is a guide to life, and seeing as life (especially in their era) was full of suffering, slavery, murder, despots, prison, exile, etc., these scenarios form a large part of their focus.
5 likesFunny enough, Marcus Aurelius was an archetypal Righteous Heathen. This quote foreshadows the Orthodox saint Elder Thaddeus' book "Our Thoughts determine Our Lives".
1 like@seronymus By what grounds could he be considered righteous? After reading meditations, he seems nothing of the sort.
0 likes@Skin Man "Righteous Heathen" is a specific category of a pagan who prototyped the fullness of the Gospel. Similar men in this category would be Plato, Buddha, Confucius and Laotsi. Marcus was a Stoic. Stoicism shared some similarities with Christianity compared to the primitive chaos of uncivilized tribes. Seeds of the truth, essentially.
2 likes@seronymus Interesting. After reading a lot of different texts, it certainly seems like there's a "universal philosophy" which all of them share. Comparing the ideas behind Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Stoicism, and Christianity produce a huge number of striking similarities. The same central concepts seem to transcend cultures and time periods.
2 likesI suppose that from my point of view, Christianity seems to be nothing insanely unique - more like it's just another take on a Universal truth, filtered through its own cultural and historical context, just like these other philosophies and spiritualities.
Sucks what the fox network has become today given how much they promoted the rebellion attitude of gen x
3 likesI... I enjoy current Simpsons.
0 likesThe real Jim! I love this guys videos!
0 likesI hate that his name is pronounced “Matt Graining”.
1 likeI deadass just watched the whole death of a salesman play because u mentioned it
0 likespretty much the best one
0 likesOof, once you get into your evaluations (opinions) of America and the show - starts missing.
0 likesthe music is clearly stolen from Vsauce, but it fits, so nice!
0 likes"The more recent generation LOVES this episode"
197 likesWhy do I find this not suprising and also a little dis-heartening?
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Maybe it was the writers way of saying don't take this too seriously, it's a comedy, these aren't role models ( The Simpsons family) It's Entertainment.
18 likesI’m 36 and it’s been my favorite episode since I first saw it in 1998. I’ve never viewed it as Homer being a bad person, just a very different person than Grimes.
7 likes@Mr. Ryan I'm 31 and I remember watching it for the first time and thinking 'why don't I like this episode?'. Something about it, which I couldn't understand at the time, just didn't sit right with me
5 likesStrange, I never really liked that episode and I'm not an adult yet...
1 like@CeeStyleDj and everyone knows we don't take shit seriously
0 likesBecause nihilism. And because "sit back and enjoy life" is not a solution to the problems that the nihilism will eventually create. The sand is sprinting through the hourglass.
0 likesSeeing Emp stand my Rusty Cage, it’s now I realize how tall Admiral Asian Akbar is.
0 likesThis video sounds like it was written by an AI
0 likesDon't be Frank Grimes nor Homer Simpson. Be someone inbetween.
0 likesWow, just wow.
0 likesDr. Spiral is MASSIVE.
With another masterpiece being concluded, I wonder if Emplemon will become stale like everything else over the years, like he said in the video. Can't imagine Emp withering away... but like you said, eventually, everyone runs out of ideas, right? Only time will tell.
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Hopefully, when he runs out of ideas he just quits. Plenty of good things came to a graceful end.
17 likesEmp started producing this sort of content after he got tired of the YTP community. I'm pretty sure he will try to innovate again, or at least know when to quit.
4 likesYou forget to mention Matt Groening being 33rd degree Freemason.
0 likesTalks about inequality then shows sat scores by race, i'm gonna need some elaboration here
0 likesTF2 Sniper theme always slaps for me
0 likesgrimes hates homer because hes an oaf.. thats the entire point of the character homer.. hes the american everyman whos an idiot. thats literally why hes the main character in the show and why he prospers because the show needs him to.. grimes could be considered the people who made homer the character of te show and their disdain for him in the first place. i really never considered this episode that special but i guess if youre analyzing it from some writers perspective then i guess it has a lot of elements worth noting.. but to me it lways just seemed like duh obvious he doesnt like homer because hes dumb.. i liked this video, it made me want to go back and watch every episode seriously.. i remember when my mom didnt want me to watch this show because it was bad.. probably because i was like 6 years old..
0 likesWow. I'm only 25 minutes in but this is quite possibly the greatest single piece of content I've ever watched. I feel conflicted about whether I should laugh uncontrollably or cry my eyes out. No, I'm serious; I feel like I could do both at the same time - surely an accomplishment that doesn't happen every day. The way you articulate words and ideas is truly eloquent and flawless in every sense of the word. Videos like this are what inspire me to be a better artist, a better writer, a better creator, but most importantly, a better person. You've effortlessly described both the pinnacle and pitfall of the American Dream, the challenges and struggles we all face in this life, and the juxtaposition of the modern man vs. the classical man in a way that I think very few people could ever do. I award you all the points, and may God still have mercy on your soul (because it's still important lol). 😂 Godspeed, my friend!
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This video made me realize I'm more of a Homer than I think I am. I admired Homer. Didn't know I took so much from Homer to live my life! 😁
2 likes@Prabin Paudel I'm an ex homer reformed classical lol. 😂
1 like@Prabin Paudel Homer had good qualities though. He wasn't all bad.
1 like@Home Studio Basics I want a 9 to 5 work where I can cheat my way out for 30 years. 😂 I have that common with Homer. 😁
2 likes@Prabin Paudel No don't. LOL. 😂
1 like@Home Studio Basics STU COME TO DISCORD .......
0 likes@Home Studio Basics i couldnt have said it better myself broski 👌
0 likesFailing upwards is a real thing
0 likesHe was asking for it and he got it.
0 likes32:45. Not for me, the decline started around a season later.
0 likesPOV: you made a donut and homer come to take it :)))
0 likesI can’t remember what episode but Martin Sheen narrates that the simpsons are a “Kentucky family,” which is interesting I guess.
0 likes3:32 the First thing i tought when i Heard this was "snipin's a good Job mate"
0 likesHomer- Gen Xer
0 likesGrimes- Millennial
5:00
1 like🎵 Break it down! 🎵
“Only by relinquishing our control over others can we ensure our own agency to do as we please.”
156 likesI’d say that they should have sent a poet, but it’s fairly clear they already did.
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Are you also an anarchist? That's great, man, have you ever watched any Anarchopac video?
0 likes@Giordano Pezzutti Bini cringe
4 likesThat's one to remember.
0 likes@Максим Just messing with you chan kids, actually, sounds more like reddit toddlers.
0 likesFrank Grimes was the first SJW. So obsessed with "fairness" he went insane.
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yes😤 😠 😡 🤬
0 likes5:07 hmm… this seems awfully familiar…
0 likesDidn’t MatPat prove it was in Oregon!?
1 likewell made video thank you
0 likesQuestion from outer space: Why do people with Autism sound like they are smiling while they are talking while perpetually about to sneeze?
0 likesthe orange juice ad integration was genius
0 likesThought I heard Soft Machine, checked the music list, subscribed.
0 likesthat whole thing about gen x kinda rings familiar
0 likesI honestly thought the simpsons were green to avoid a copyright claim.
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Me 2
4 likesme too lol
2 likesMe too
3 likesI thought so too due to his 2nd video on copyright
5 likesI bet there's something philosophical you could make of this comment tied to the video but I'm too simple to come up with it
7 likes@BlamBlarson most definitely though im in the same simpleton boat.
0 likesLmao
0 likesIn one of his older rant videos he said it was that.
1 likeAround the 38 minute mark I noticed the background music was the instrumental of the opening theme to the show “Aqua teen hunger force” the season it was going as “aqua tv show show”. Is this an homage to another groundbreaking show that was subversive and maybe stayed past its peak?
0 likes3:27 Matt Groening had to enter hell
0 likes> camera pans over to LA
I watched the most recent episode: "A Serious Flanders pt. 1 and 2"
0 likesGood animation and all, but where's the comedy? Where are the jokes?
This feels like one massive troll
0 likesNot sure if I'm watching a Simpsons video or buying a used Silvia
0 likes:p Awesome vid
at 9:24, im barely hearing the music going HUH?! I know this?! but from where and at what capacity?! I knew every single note...haha FFVI indeed!
0 likes“Money does not represent such a value as men have placed upon it. All my money has been invested into experiments with which I have made new discoveries enabling mankind to have a little easier life.”
1 like-- Nikola Tesla
Prohibition Homer is the best episode!
0 likesThis is fucking good. This is like insanely well produced.
45 likesBrilliant, thank you
0 likesdamn, that was deep
0 likesdang these videos are good.
1 likewow. at first i thought the uploader was a fcking dork for making a 50 minutes about the simpsons but i gotta say, he sounds more like a disappointed fan. which i can relate to. that quote about counterculture towards the end was... damn
0 likesI loved the vsauce intro lol
0 likesThis video is incredible.
0 likes4:09 Wait, is that the title screen song to one of the "the game" Flash games?
0 likesCan someone tell me the name of the song in the Beginning of "YOU'RE what's wrong with America" section? I've heard it before, really nostalgic but I don't know the name
0 likesWhat is super specific analysis... Then expanded to all broad scales? Right on this channel EmpLemon
0 likes2:13 i know of a couple springfields in the uk too haha
1 like"responsible and virtuous role models" (zooms in on Bill Cosby)
0 likesUhhhh
Great analysis
1 like"homer's enemy" really made me sad, it was such a real episode
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The irony is that Homer never considered Frank an enemy
21 likes@Deez Nuts Also, the real enemy was Burns.
0 likesLMAO the zoom in on Bill Cosby
0 likesCame for the analysis, stayed for the Gran Turismo/Tourist Trophy music.
0 likesThe aqua tv show show theme was a nice touch!
0 likeslol everything you're saying gen x went through, millennials have gone through.. twice... each.
0 likesI love this episode, Frank loses his shit cause he’s homer simp...
136 likesThere, YouTube, I've watched the video. You can stop recommending it now.
0 likesAlso, good job, EmpLemon.
28:53 I almost wispered dinkleburg!..
0 likesSo this is matt groenings oregon, I mean origin story?
2 likesHey, it's Rusty Cage! Your music is great and some of it is the best unsettling music I've heard!
1 likeHoly shit. Who else didn’t know Matt’s parents had the same name as the Simpsons parents?
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I KNOW< mind blown, I cant wait to tell everyone.
3 likesAlso his grandpa is name Abraham and his sisters Lisa and Maggie
10 likesAnother fun fact, Matt's mom paternal surname is Wiggum.
5 likesIt gets even better. When they were naming Grandpa Simpson, Matt refused to even be in the room, because his mom and dad gave him so much crap for naming Homer and Marge after them. The writers named Grandpa Simpson "Abraham," which just happened to be Matt's grandpa's name.
5 likesAlso, Matt's father's name was Homer Philip Groening, so Fry is also his father's namesake.
1 likeAnd regarding Springfield, it is most certainly based off of Springfield, Oregon, a town just South of where Matt Groening grew up.
"Responsible and virtuous role models"
0 likesMy collection stops at 9. Fk what Simpsons became.
0 likesGrimes isnt a "classic" hero. Grimes has nothing because he strives for nothing. You don't get rewarded for life, you get rewarded when you reward yourself. To work hard and expect everyone else to care about your achievements is appalling. No one cares about you or what you do. Homer has the life because he lives.
39:08 It seems like the world was the issue.
0 likesIs that the Gran Turismo 3 soundtrack I hear? You sir have great taste.
0 likes"But before he could do that, Matt Groening had to enter hell."
517 likesLos Angeles, California
Further proof that Emp is never wrong.
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lol was just about to comment that
1 likeFun fact, I actually met Emp in LA (VidCon specifically) so he certainly speaks from experience.
12 likesWhat happened to my LA?
0 likesPoor city planning
0 likes@Zaid Nava as someone who doesn’t live there but visits often, LA is very mixed in my opinion, but that’s because when I think LA, I think of all the other cities in that general area too, like Burbank, Long Beach, Hollywood, etc. some of them suck, some of them are awesome, so overall the area’s like a 6 or 7/10 for me.
3 likes@Fragmented R I think they are speaking from an incel point of view.
1 like@Jordan L eh, maybe. Oh well, at least I got to give the definitive LA review lol.
2 likes@Marcos Cárdenas Gee, you seem to travel a lot, pal.
1 likeI think I’m home! What a delightfully eclectic group! Let’s see, what’s the quote again? Ahh, yes;
2 likes“Sometimes in life, we are given a choice between being a slave in Heaven or a star in Hell. And Hell does not always look like Hell. On a good day, it can look a lot like LA.” - Eugene Sands, “Playing God”
@Marcos Cárdenas Ah, the typical city-dweller in action. "There aren't 70 restaurants within 2 minutes of me! This is literally a third-world country!"
0 likes@Marcos Cárdenas And yet, we're somehow still better off than urban ghettos of the glorious progressive cities run by Democrats.
1 likeI've been all over Louisiana and Mississippi, and what I see is people living their lives not hurting anyone.
The worst experiences I've ever had in the south have always been in cities, not the bumpkin towns that you clearly have disdain for.
You're confusing poverty with simple living.
@Marcos Cárdenas We're just living.
3 likes@Marcos Cárdenas Dear God, a northerner! Forgive me, I had no idea I was speaking to a superior lifeform such as yourself!
3 likesSeriously, Trump had a base in every state, north and south.
Groening was never the same after LA.
0 likes@Fragmented R So Greater Los Angeles/Southland then?
1 like@Marcos Cárdenas Downtown LA begs to differ.
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likes@Fragmented R Does Long Beach suck?
0 likes@Fragmented R I'm really glad you love Long Beach. I love it too. It gets a bad rap but I feel it's misunderstood and underrated.
0 likeswell made vid, very good
0 likes"responsible and virtious role models" Zooms in on Bill Cosby fuckin lold
0 likesGeneration X saw America die lol
1 like3:00 Snipings a good job mate
0 likesI'm a millennial, and I'm feeling personally attacked having hair loss product marketed to me. Because I think I'm not old enough to be losing my hair, but man does that hairline get further from my eyes every day. Next thing you know, we'll all blink and our favorite YouTubers are marketing erectile dysfunction pills to us like the classic rock radio stations do.
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Real shit dude, one of Emp's other videos where he first did a hair loss ad stuck with me. I tried that stuff (store brand though) and it actually works
18 likesThe only hair loss product I ever used (or wanted to use, for that matter) was Nair. And yes, it works.
6 likesIf you catch it early enough you can revert it! USE CODE EMPLEMON AT CHECKOUT FOR 30% OFF!!
2 likesbruh ya'll ads are getting smarter man I swear
0 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness Nair is a hair remover.
0 likes@m. stone Yes, it is a "hair loss product" indeed.
6 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness no, it’s not. It does nothing for hair loss. You’re mistaken.
0 likes@m. stone It's a product that gives you hair loss.
4 likes@m. stone It's a pun.
3 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness Which word is a pun? Do you know what a pun is?
0 likes@m. stone It's a play on words in which the meaning is twisted to something similar but typically incongruent, used for humorous effect.
1 likeExample: a hair loss product = product which causes hair loss
@TheReaverOfDarkness No, this isn’t a pun, and it’s not even a play on words. It’s taking the literal meaning of ‘hair loss’, and it’s not clear that’s what you’re doing. It sounds more like you’re just confused.
0 likes@m. stone It's humor oriented toward some of the more savvy types of people. The sensible chuckle type. Probably targeted toward people in their thirties and up, especially among those who appreciate low-quality puns. It is perhaps a dad joke, to some extent. It is akin to British humour.
1 like@TheReaverOfDarkness this is not a pun, and it’s not a play on words. It’s a childish joke. It’s taking a literal meaning of the words, and that’s all. I’m above 30, bro, so your lil explanation doesn’t fly. Take the ‘L’, and figure out wtf puns actually are. Again, best of luck with all that.
0 likes@m. stone Don't get mad at me because you didn't get the joke. If you know puns so well, you're having an awful lot of trouble identifying the one you're currently hyper-analyzing.
0 likes@m. stone he was joking. get over it lolll you're taking it too seriously
1 like@ElisonJackson no, I’m really not 😂 I think it’s hilarious; a lot funnier than his initial attempt at a ‘pun’. I find this whole thread to be a lot funnier ‘joke’ than his misadventures w/puns. But please, tell me how I’m taking this too seriously a little more.
0 likesHoly sheep sh!t! I just realized your name is an actual pun. The Reaver of Darkness ~ ‘Reaver’ is a pun for ‘river’ ~ If that’s what you mean. Puns aren’t literal interpretations. If the word ‘loss’ had another meaning of was spelled differently, then you’d have a pun.
0 likesE.g.~ A man got hit by a can soda. He was lucky it was a soft drink. That’s a pun, because the word ‘soft’ has an alternate meaning. ,
This will probably get buried, but hair loss can't be treated if your hair line is receding. The follicles themselves are falling out and skin is growing over them. Hair loss can only be treated if your hair is thinning, and for that you can use finasteride or minoxidil topically (tablets aren't ideal due to systemic side effects).
0 likesThat v sauce opening is worth my sub
0 likesYour time stamps sound like an album song list
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Kek
1 like5:35 Hey that sounds familiar
1 likeThis whole time I thought you were doing it to dodge content ID
0 likesIt’s hard to imagine the simpsons being considered counter culture
12 likes9:35 - Hello there in the background music, Spinach Rag. How is Mr. Uematsu-san doing these days?
0 likesimagine a world where corruption would actually hurt a President's career...
0 likesSee, not even being that attached to Homer, I found Grimes more annoying then sympathetic. Sympathy does not come if you keep asking for it. And I was not sad when he left
0 likesvsauce is so smart wow
0 likesI really like your definition of the American dream. Pushing for chance when you feel discontent.
12 likesI never believed in democracy, and I won't anywhere soon neither, for it is the very thing that strips everything human and civil in any normal person.
0 likes- Aidan Mccolley (1973, Ireland)
Hmm. The Simpsons made the MCU
1 likewhat am i doing here ive literally never watched simpsons
1 likeLMAO THE ZOOM IN ON PILL COSBY
0 likesi love how EmpLemon always finds a way to make anything seem like a 1-in-a-universe absolute masterpiece with 15 years of preperation.
27 likesI used to mess with the color knobs and make cartoons green on the old TVs back in the day
0 likesGreen screen simpsons, great.
0 likesProsperity and individual liberty? Another word for greed?
0 likesExcellent. Subscribed.
0 likesThis video also breaks down exactly why its so shitty now. It was THE show for counterculture and being truthful, now its washed over and docile. Appealing to a general audience
15 likes0:27 bart became the brasil flag
0 likesi dont think thisi s EVEN ABOUT Homers enemy.
0 likesDude this is brilliant. Extremely well done
0 likesOne minute in I was worried he was gonna expose the illuminati
0 likesThis is quite possibly the single best video you've ever produced.
11 likesFuturama should have came back in 2020
0 likes5:07 foreshadowing
0 likesDo a video on the Tracy Ulman show next please
0 likeswhat it means to be american is to live in america lol
0 likesThe Simpsons was so great. Grew up watching the early seasons with my dad over and over again. Unfortunately, upon reflection, George H. Bush was right. The nation was better off when we all had an ideal to strive for in the Walton's and not the Simpsons. Entertainment is fine and I don't fault the show or it's creators but you can't deny the change society has gone through due to the media we consumed. In 1990, the message was about being okay with being dysfunctional and broken and the human struggle. In 2021, its about embracing and glorifying it. Modern America only supports two types of people. The perpetual apathetic zombie and the professional victim. The Simpsons and the Media that followed caused America to glorify dysfunctional and reject improvement. Pride in laziness, cynicism, and subverting every aspect society with no desire to build anything better. And the world is a darker place. This video made me realize one thing. It wasn't Millennials that ruined the world... It was Gen X.
0 likesWhat is the song name at 5:00??
0 likesI need it in my playlist XD
i like how the grand turismo 3 car dealership music is playing
0 likesThis depressed the fuck out of me.
0 likesThanks.
"Homer's Enemy is when The Simpsons jumped the shark, and they did it brilliantly" is not a take i expected, but boy is it an impressive take!
16 likeswhat's the music around 8 minutes in? it sounds so familiar but I can't remember what it's from
0 likestoo bad Matt Groening's edginess led him to be a passenger on the lolita express
0 likes5:11 this sounds familiar.
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Things never change
0 likesI paused this video for several months until i reached this point in the series. Now time to finally finish this bitch.
0 likesWhat's always been weird to me is that if "Homer's Enemy" was honest with itself, Grimes' real enemy was always Mr. Burns. He's the one who underpays Frank, and he's basically Homer but at a much grander scale; more cruel, more lazy, more fickle, and more cartoonishly wealthy. And he's done nothing to deserve his position either. But the show positions Homer as an antagonizing presence in Frank's life, while Burns is treated as some almost neutral agent, even though in a very real sense, he's the true cause of Frank Grimes' misery.
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Even Mr. Burns is little more than a symptom of the same system
9 likesI think thats partially the point. Its much in the way that the mid-lower class will claw at and fight eachover instead of focusing on those at the top, those with actual power over them
13 likesI think it is intentional that Grimes takes out his anger on Homer instead of Mr. Burns who is responsible. Because if American workers started taking there anger out the systems or Mr. Burns then Frank Grimes is a communist. But if he fights a fellow worker then he is considered a capitalist who wants to succeed. Plus it would not make sense for the plot.
8 likesGrimes’ enemy is.. Burns? ...Really??
1 likeI’d have thought Grimes’ biggest enemy is himself. Why did he not take more personal responsibility for how he feels instead of blaming a world he was angry at? Just treads an uncomfortably fine line, no disrespect.
Poor Grimey.
0 likesI was 20 when the pilot screened in the UK..
0 likesSide Q...
Why is the 1st episode called the pilot ??
Because its the 1st episode ever aired !!
Absolute banger
0 likesAh, Grimes the Twitter user
0 likesNo, there won’t be another episode like Homer’s Enemy in the current seasons, because Homer’s Enemy is both funny and good.
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I honestly can't fathom why people hate on the recent Simpsons episodes. The show remains more relevant and clever than almost anything else on "TV". The only real competition at its level these days is South Park. Simpsons viewership isn't declining because its quality is declining, the viewership is declining because people are getting used to The Simpsons and want something new. The episodes are every bit as good as they used to be, they're just still Simpsons episodes. And it retains very high viewership today, because whenever we get a breath of fresh air by watching some other show, we inevitably tire of it quickly and come back to the good stuff.
3 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness The Simpsons is the only "good stuff"?
0 likes@DoctorPhileasFragg It is one of very few truly transcendent shows and arguably the greatest one of all time.
0 likes@TheReaverOfDarkness there's literally an episode where Bart Simpson becomes a gamer and they just make fun of competive gamers instead of actually doing anything interesting. They're doing the bare minimum for entertainment.
1 like@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY?but that's literally what Simpsons always did. Make fun of things relevant at given time
0 likes@whoitare awezzome Yes, but they did it in a way that actually added onto something, if they had something to say about society or something within popular media, they would do it in a way that's creative and entertaining. Just because they do what Simpsons did before, doesn't mean that they're doing a good job at it.
0 likes@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? From a show with ~700 episodes, it would be strange if they didn't have at least one lazy episode. I challenge you to find a show with more than 5% as many episodes that doesn't have at least one lazy episode. One lazy episode doesn't make the whole show lazy.
0 likesP.S.: I've never seen the episode in question, but from your description and whoitare awezzome's description, it sounds like it's probably creative social commentary and you just either didn't get it or got it and didn't like it.
@TheReaverOfDarkness Disney fucking ruined it like they ruin everything else they buy out
1 like@TheReaverOfDarkness Most definitely didn't like it. And its not at least a "lazy episode". The show has become frustratingly intolerable. From most characters like Lisa and Bart being reduced to their bare bones personality, Homer being more oafish and rude instead of being actually human, and most side characters just being the crutch for a punchline. The Simpsons is the longest U.S. TV show running so far, and it's absolutely evident. It makes me sad how much they are trying to milk this show for all its worth. I'm sure you enjoyed the show from a place where I couldn't, and I can appreciate that. But from where I stand, the modern era of Simpsons have shown me some of the worst jokes I've ever seen.
0 likes@HAHA ISN'T IT FUNNY? I can't see your side in this. Perhaps if you watched the episodes in reverse order, it might seem to happen that way, but not gradually over time, rather all of a sudden as you got back to the early episodes. The characters have been fleshed out more and more as time goes on. One of the best things I can say about the Simpsons is that they DON'T resort to overusing character stereotypes where almost all other long-lived shows do.
0 likesTake for example Season 32 Episode 14, an episode I had never seen before and selected simply because it was recent. In that episode, Homer spends the night in jail for being too drunk in public, and gets put in a cell with Cletus. As he often does, Homer decides once again to put a good effort into improving himself for his family. After jail time, he goes to Cletus' house and learns some hillbilly wisdom (laden with hick jokes, of course), but Homer helps Cletus get his own life off the ground and Cletus becomes slightly famous. He lets it get to his head and abandons his own family, so Homer joins forces with Marge and Cletus' girlfriend to help him see what he is doing to his family.
It may not be completely original, but it's a heartwarming story I wouldn't say is overdone. In it there are many times when the characters struggle with their own obstacles (sometimes comically easy to get past, but hey), we get lots of opportunities to see what the characters are made of, and a handful of characters who grow a bit.
Barney becomes an Uber driver. Unfortunately he's drunk on the job.
Moe takes Homer's keys into custody on the fateful night and has copies made, selfishly and in secret. He steals Homer's car just to take it to the car-wash and dream briefly that he owns a car this nice. And he then returns it.
Cletus uses his love of music to communicate how often the most important things in life are the people you can rely on and who can rely on you. It's that second half he comes to face by the end of the episode.
Chief Wiggum fails to capture a drunken Homer Simpson, tries to call the cops when his car is vandalized with him in it, and is tricked into giving Snake Jailbird a hacksaw as a "musical instrument", which Snake then uses to lull Wiggum to sleep as he escapes from his cell. I'd like to see Chief Wiggum get some growth for once, but apparently he's supposed to be the buttmonkey for all time.
This episode also features some up-with-the-times commentary on how cruel and selfish talent agents can be, and fearlessly roasts Ellen DeGeneres.
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So in conclusion, I don't see what you mean about the same old stereotypes being overused. If you're referring to the characters being somewhat predictable, that could just be because you have a good grasp of their personality.
There will never ever be another band like Pantera
0 likesLove the GT3/4 music in the background.
0 likesI want to watch this but I don’t want to watch 41 minutes
0 likesit's kind of ironic that the conservative, family values oriented culture of the past is now the counterculture of today, while the counterculture of the past is mainstream today.
0 likesI always thought this episode was the best one in the entire series, glad to know Emp agrees as well!
4 likesman, i love them funny simps
0 likes"simpsons green"
1 likewhole video they are yellow.
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he meant that has a metaphor of how they changed over time
0 likesSubscribed when you said ‘…enter hell’ and LA was shown. King
0 likesI stopped watching at the IMDb connection. Like a bad episode of ancient aliens. Like an episode of ancient aliens*
1 like“Often times the greatest art doesn’t give us all the right answers, it makes us ask the right questions”
33 likes—Emplemon, 2021
God this embodies the purity of TRUE art
That music at around 7:54 is from a video game but i cant remember which one... this is going to kill me
0 likesDisagree about the "American Dream" part. America was just another endeavor in imperialism, it was the dream of unlimited profit. A whole new land, even if people already lived there. It was an experiment in seeing how far we could push a "free market," and it inevitably failed. The illusions of grandeur were only achieved by few, while those led astray were exploited. Those who didn't wish for the "American Dream," too, were taken there against their will. The American Dream, as a concept, is understandable. But you cannot attribute it to real life examples, such as "crossing a sea into a completely different land." After all, the Americas were highly contested by colonizers, with the French, Spanish, Portuguese, and of course, English. It's a paradoxical mindset with a destructive nature, and as such, cannot represent whatever 'American Dream' is positive. That being said, again, whatever your interpretation of the American Dream is is up to you. But the freeness of man was only given by those 'pioneers' if their ethnicity matched their own. You cannot erase history, or historical context, and as such, using those examples is wrongheaded.
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The argument that "Life is Unfair" is unbelievably obtuse. Life, in a society that feeds on inequity & unfairness, will always be unfair. What fairness is obviously not meant to be absolute, the world is chaotic. Homer's Enemy seems to me, more as commentary of the fact that American Idealism is misconstrued. Grimes takes his anger out towards his fellow worker, someone who is on equal footing to him, rather than on Burns, who is economically & and powerfully 'superior' to him. It's the illusion of expecting fairness in a Capitalist society. It's the illusion of believing that those around you are the issue, a misled practice of not identifying the actual issue because you're not supposed to.
0 likesWhether you want to identify the issue or not, Homer being content is not a good thing. Grimes being ambitious is not a good thing. They are both two sides of an issue, a worker who won't bother to acknowledge his world & his exploited labor, and a worker who acknowledges it, but will expect that to push them above others. In Grimes, he is pushing that the way that the system functions should work, and is amazed at how it doesn't. In Homer, he sees nothing but his surface level, and doesn't see a system at all, or refuses to acknowledge one. In someone like Lisa, she would push that the system doesn't work (which would be irrefutable based on the standing of this episode). The system isn't meant to work, the laborer will always be exploited if he cannot identify the means in which the exploitation is taking place.
Gonna get off this video now, I didn't finish it because I feel like your account of this episode was incredibly mundane and uneducational.
People act as if the Simpsons was the first show to have a dysfunctional family. Does everyone just pretend that Married... with children never happened?
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The Simpsons came out at a time where family sitcoms we're at its peak. The problem was that most of the families shown where safe and comfortable depiction of the upper middle class, basically what you expect from a loving christian family. When the Simpsons came out, they shattered everyone's expectations and shined a spotlight on every ugly wart that all other shows ignored. The Simpsons was counter culture, and as you expect pissed of a lot of people, specifically parental groups. But young adults and teens love them. For a better way to understand, watch the fall of the Simpsons by silvereyepatchwolf. He does a better job at explaining why the Simpsons were so popular back then. Tldr: The Simpsons weren't the first show to have a dysfunctional family, but were the first one to hit main stream and gain a large following.
0 likesthere will Never Ever be another game like tf2
1 like"...sugary sitcoms with responsible and virtuous rolemodels..."
106 likesclose up shot on Bill Cosby
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Pokémon?!
4 likes@Omar Reyes finally someone else recognises a Bill Cosby in the original Pokémon Indigo, or whatever the Pokérap guy was called. His name was close to Cosby's, if I remember correctly
2 likesWith the poké and the mon and the guy who comes out with the ball and the ah ah ah
0 likesSoft machine playing in the background, nice!
0 likesThere will never ever be another bowler like Pete Weber
0 likesGotta long a teamfortress soundtrack for the background music +rep
0 likesThey should do homer vs rick sanchez tgat would be ebic
1 likeHey Emplemon, I've been recently rewatching a lot of your videos and I've really been inspired by your videos and your words on topics and how they may correlate to a certain aspect of something or why something is the way it is. I was just wondering if you went to a certain college or university and if so, what did you major in? Also, I know this is very farfetched but I'm currently working on a research paper, with the main topic of it being global issues, mine specifically being Political Corruption in the Middle East. I have had a hard time working on it and I was wondering if you could possibly critique it for me. I really want this to be a good paper because it will likely be the depending factor on whether I move to World History Honors or stay in the same class. Other than that I would just like to end this by saying I think your videos are phenomenal and I hope you keep creating the content you make.
7 likesI love you Rusty!
0 likesIve been through the list. What is the song when Generation X pops on the screen?
0 likeslove the Gran Turismo lobby music!
0 likesWhere is Springfield? Well there's a lighthouse 2:29 and some ships on the water. So, it's definitely Linoma Beach in Nebraska. Springfield is part of Sarpy county, and so is Linoma Beach.
0 likesI think you've packed more education into the first 20 minutes of this video than some teachers do over an entire grade year. Bravo.
5 likesThe Gran Turismo music was genius
0 likesWhat is that painting of the man mowing the crops at 16:55?
0 likesDoes anyone watch or know someone that watches the new episodes? Yeah, me neither
0 likes11:35 DENTAL PLAN
1 likeFrank Grimes is one of the most relatable characters to me.
44 likesVIDEO IDEA! There will NEVER EVER be another superman like Christopher Reeve!!!
0 likesThis man is being vsause with the music and transitions.
0 likesThe way Never Ever gives way too much information in an hour and my brain doesn't hurt consuming it is what makes it good.
0 likesMr. Burns was the real enemy in this episode, completely mischaracterized as an ambivalent third party that wasn't directly responsible for the woes of the workers he exploited to his own gain.
1 likeDisney: The graveyard for all things creative and unique.
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Let's be real, considering what's been happening with the company for a couple decades and so, Walt is whipping and nae-naeing in his grave.
38 likes@TVB i think a more accurate description would be that he's spinning at mach 10 inside his coffin
36 likesI thought that was EA?
5 likesMaybe it was Google.
I forget...
@Kos4Evr corporate america
4 likesand yet once the birthplace for all things creative
13 likesSimpsons died a long time ago. Even before FOX was baught.
10 likes@borray s Graveyards are resting places for already dead things. They are not the cause of death.
5 likesI would call it a retirement home. Full of things that might as well be dead.
4 likes@borray s Don’t ask me. I didn’t make that comment. I’m just telling you what the graveyard metaphor implies.
3 likesI’m sure he didn’t mean that everything Disney has is dead and zombified. Just a few certain examples like Simpsons and Star Wars as they’re only remembered for what they used to be and not for what they are now (Few exceptions for Star Wars)
MCU is still doing well earned victory laps of having Endgame become the highest grossing film of all time and still being the only ‘cinematic universe’ to actually make it to their big finale movie. They’re keeping things fresh with WandaVision and their weird multiverse thing they’ll be doing in the next films. I’d say they’re good at staying alive and fresh.
@borray s MCU is well on it's way to be dead with their thinking that they'll catch lightning in a bottle twice and make Z-listers like Shang Chi and the Eternals big names like they did with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
9 likesIT WAS UNIQUE AND CREATIVE! it was...
0 likes@Pierce Martinez
0 likesIt might work as a once-off, but we're not going to get another Endgame moment.
Wtf rusty cage, didn't expect that
0 likeslaissez-faire...
1 likeIt's not pronounced laccy -fair, but lay-say fair
mildly annoying
but WHY are they green now? you never concluded!!!!!!
1 likethere will never be another emplemon
0 likesi came here for the simpsons episode and got an analysis of americas worst time after the great depression. still enjoyed
0 likesWell yeah, Disney bought them. The simpsons is garbage now.
1 likeok but you still didn't tell us why they're green
0 likesThere’s a Springfield in Arizona too, but I didn’t see it on the list
0 likesThe older I get, the more I love this show. Even now, when it may not be at its peak, I still love the show. This, was awesome!
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How can you enjoy a show that is nothing more than a corporate sell out when it used to be the opposite?😕
1 like@Majin Vegeta Because I care about the characters, what is so bad about that? Not to mention, there have still been good episodes even somewhat recently. I am not going to hate on the show like everyone else for being "sell outs".... sometimes, the only way to keep the lights on, its to do what has been done with the Simpsons. Yes, the actors and writers can find other avenues of work I am sure, and have, but, this is a steady check. Do you quit a job with a steady check?
0 likes@Carstuff111 nah bro,idont like it because the show is trash compared to what it was in its prime..the quality has drastically dropped & u cant deny that.its just boring & lame ass hell 😞
0 likes@Majin Vegeta Well, you can think what you want, but I do not blame the writers and the voice actors for sticking with a solid pay check, so, whatever. They still have some funny episodes, and I will continue watching when I get the chance. They will quit making it when they feel they have had their fill, and you can just get over it. You don't want to watch, cool, don't watch.
0 likes@Carstuff111
0 likes"you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
@Majin Vegeta You are still here talking? How old are you, 5, 10 years old? We get it, you don't like the show, I think the world at large can't care any less, please stop blowing up my feed.
0 likes@Majin Vegeta Ok, since you can't drop the subject, say hello to being blocked. You are wasting space in my email, bye bye kiddo
0 likes@Carstuff111 "I care a out the characters" You just want to see them again, thats not caring.
0 likesThey are no longer the same characters.
Grimes is Elon Musk and his Wife at the same time, gross
0 likesI hope I become as good as making videos as you one day
0 likesDr. Spiral, first name Downward
0 likesI dedicate this to grimmy
0 likes[intense CLAPING]
0 likesSo weird that Fox used to be considered progressive.
0 likesA great video to introduce people to the notion that fairness and freedom cannot exist in tandem.
2 likesI would rather live in a free society than a "fair" one
I loved it when Frank Grimes died; a perfect end for a bitter creep and it's not as if I cried when the animators stopped animating him. ;)
0 likesPhil Hartman's death was a turning point for the series to me.
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He didn’t die, he was murdered
1 like@Mister Musturd murder typically leads to death
84 likes@Emmett McCleary "murder typically leads to death" deep tbh
28 likes@Jürgen Schneider Tascenion Except Jesus. Happy Easter!
16 likes@Emmett McCleary lol
0 likesi was just thinking that today.
1 like@Emmett McCleary unless you're not the one receiving it
1 likeThis episode was just so mean-spirited. I hated how all of Homer's attempts to be nice to Grimes somehow made Grimes hate Homer even more. And somehow seeing all the amazing things Homer has accomplished has the same effect. As a result of this, Grimes wasn't sympathetic at all. On the contrary, he was all too easy to hate.
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This means you're privileged and never had to suffer in any way like Grimes.
2 likes@internalhabaneros no it doesn't. It means I don't like jerks who constant reject someone's attempts to be friendly
0 likesbeing american means you live in america
0 likesI-It boggles the mind!
0 likesAh, better not to think about it..
The American revolution did not overthrow the British monarchy…. Wtf even is this claim
1 likeGlad the Never Ever series is back!
8 likesWhy is EmpLemon fuckin stacked tho?
1 likeok, i appreciate it more now, but i still loathed watching it.
0 likesFluffy gave birth to fourteen beautiful bunnies. Eight survived.
0 likesI hated this episode, felt like a flanderized Homer had become a scapegoat rather than a character
0 likesTHE FUCKING COSBY JOKE LMAO
0 likesNow everything on TV is cynical, and it sucks. ><
0 likestoo bad they sold out to the corporate devil
1 like5:10 that's actually a picture of Australia
0 likesThat's a XB Ford Falcon behind the boys and an XC Ford Falcon up behind them along with a Mazda 808
I never knew that Matt based it off his family, thats really sweet. Their sorta immortalized now
14 likesThe principle that hard work should create rewards doesn’t necessitate resenting someone who gets rewards for no hard work. That’s illogical. It just necessitates hating when hard work doesn’t create rewards.
0 likesAmazing video
0 likesDoes anyone know the name of the BGM used around 7:00?
0 likesDidn’t expect the gt4 menu music
0 likesJust imagine the alternative universe where Frank Grimes didn't die in this episode and continue to appear during the zombie simpsons era.
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Would have been healthy TBH, maybe wih a recurring enemy at work The Simpsons could have been more serialized thus being able to tell other stories or tell them differnetly, instead of flanderizing every character, developing them.
0 likeswhy isnt there gonna be another one
0 likesHey wait a minute you really think equality is impossible? Are you trying to make Karl Marx cry!!!??? 😢
0 likeswell as a gen z person uhh things have gotten a lot worse.....
1 likeGreat video! I guess i have to sub xD
0 likes"But in a way, all of us live in Springfield"
342 likesMe, an European: Interesting
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I dont
5 likesYou also live in Springfield. You're just deluded enough to think otherwise.
22 likesMe, residing on another plane of existence between realities that neither exists nor is imaginary: !ñ\ēř3£¥iņğ
18 likesThe entire world is just one big donut-shaped springfield
10 likesWhy are you missing the point on purpose?
1 likeI know, right? I’m Canadian.
0 likesBut the thesis isn’t without some validity.
(I couldn’t say this if you were, say, North Korean; but things aren’t altogether different across the pond.)
*a European, you put the an before a vowel sound, not just a vowel.
1 like@Hunter Caper Nah, man; it just that we still mostly use the Queen’s English over here in Canada, with come small exceptions.
0 likesFor example; with use the American pronunciation of certain consonants & words like “H” (sounds like “‘Atch, not hAt’ch), and film (sounds like “film” as opposed to “fil’m”).
No real rhyme or reason as to who’s English we end up using across the board, but it’s still very much a unique hybrid of both North American & the Queen’s English).
Neither to I haha
0 likes@Just Call Me Mr. Butterfingers The entire world is just one big atom.
0 likes@Loco Madman is european not pronounced “year-uh-pein” everywhere? google what I said. i’m correct everywhere. An is for vowel sounds, not just vowels in general
0 likes@Hunter Caper Nope, it comes out “your-O-P-Ann” in that backwoods of Saskatchewan, Canada. If you speak with the local “White” accent, anyway (which I do as I was raised largely off off the Indian Reservation I was born in).
0 likesTrue story: I’m the only native I know who can’t talk in an Indian accent. The difference between the two is as far as that between virtually any English anywhere and, say, Mandarin or Farsi. Less speaking, more... well, it’s almost like singing, actually.
@Loco Madman So the y in front of the word makes it so that it isn’t a vowel sound. You’d be right if it was “Ear-o-pean,” because it makes the first sound a vowel sound, but the same reason you say it is “A year” is the same reason you say it’s “A European.”
0 likes@Hunter Caper sorry, I was spelling it out phonetically (as opposed to using a dictionary pronunciation guide).
0 likesIn fact, we would say, “Buddy over there is a European”; it’d be “Buddy is European”, or “Buddy is from Europe”. Make a bit more sense now?
@Hunter Caper Ya know, come to think of it; thank you for asking such interesting question! I’ve never been asked anything like this line of inquiries before.
0 likesAre you from a multicultural country or speak multiple languages?
I primarily communicate in just two languages myself; Good English & bad; and while I don’t write in any other languages, I can speak very limitedly in Cree, Québécois French (a terribly bastardized version of Parisian French), in addition to Spanish & Japanese. (Spanish is dead easy & I watch enough anime that I’ve started to pick it up, better at understanding what’s being said than actually speaking it).
Work in telecommunications, so it’s handy to have alternate means of communication available when needed.
Sniper is a good job mate!
0 likesBRO HOW DID YOU GET EVERY FONT AND SONG PERFECTLY SIMILAR TO VSAUCE
0 likesChange the channel, Marge.
0 likesWhat do people think they're entitled to? They think life is fair? And yet others also suffer without meaning, maybe how we view our struggles and make ourselves seem deserving is how we cope.
0 likesPersonally, I cope by doing something to help others. If life is worth living, maybe it is worth giving.
Don't you want to make people happy? Homer is helpless too. He wants the best for Lisa. But he is limited in what he can do for her, same as you are limited in what you can do for you.
Bullshit. Clearly the best Simpsons episode is 'E I E I (Annoyed Grunt).
0 likesYou did a lot of damage hers
0 likeshuh, i should check that episode out
0 likesNot as good as Homer's Enema...
0 likesThat scene of Milton not getting a piece of cake stills upsets me on a fundamental level to this day
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He warned everyone, he was going to burn the mo’fo to the ground; but did anyone listen? Noooo...! 😂
1 likeI randomly throughout this video, though I left Gran Turismo running in the backgound lol.
0 likesJokes on you I’m colorblind.
0 likesNice Soft Machine usage at 18:00
0 likesI F Y O U have to explain your jokes,.... you know the rest
0 likes"YOU? Went into outer space? YOU?"
130 likes"Sure! You've never been?"
I disagree that it's sad to see new episodes, even with the decline still better than 90% of TV
1 like24:50 debunking communism
0 likes18:20 good summary of why I don't like the usa
0 likesGen X sounds like Gen Z
0 likesThere will Never Ever be another "Sam Hyde" when?
0 likes4:32 didn't Alf eat cats?
0 likesThere will never ever be another band like tally hall?
0 likesIt's not pronounced gray-ning
0 likesIt's pronounced groah-ning
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or groaning?
0 likesThis is so well done. My son, Jimmy, received his PHD with multi-references to the Simpsons in his dissertation. This presentation illustrates your points: The Simpsons IS America. The Simpsons ARE America. The Simpsons is US.
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Homer "Never Try"
1 likeThe Gran Turismo music in the background is making my autism light up
0 likesThe Gran Turismo music is a great touch
0 likesSpoilers ive never seen this episode what are you doin!?
0 likes18:00 Soft Machine!!
0 likesThis is probably the only video I’ve seen to take a whack at modern day philosophical problems and Homer Simpson at the same time. Boy does it do a good job
7 likesRip grimey
0 likesWelcome to the home of Ea-Nassir
1 likeI HATE HOMER'S ENEMY BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER CUZ I'M HOMER SIMPSON
0 likesnote i don't actually hate this episode
14:34 I know that music from a video game.
0 likesWHICH GAME IS IT? SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME. I CAN'T REST UNTIL I KNOW WHERE I KNOW THAT MUSIC FROM
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Mario 64
0 likesA memorable and divisive episode.
7 likesAs sad of a life Grimey had, he was pretty hard towards Homer even if the latter was an owner of the Broncos when they finally won it all.
Words like “high concept” and “meta” are so overused their very definitions become skewed. Critiques or critics use terms such as “many people” or “most of us” to justify their own opinions, and become their own antagonist.
1 likeWhat song starts at 3:30?
0 likesCan someone tell me what the hell is the song that plays when the gen x segment comes up?
0 likesLove the video, comrade! Catch you in the Soviet for roulette!
0 likesI’m convinced emplemon can write a collegiate essay in his sleep.
8 likesnailed the vsauce format
0 likesCan someone explain the pop culture reference, bottom right @11:27
0 likesOut-Bloody-Rageous! 18:00
0 likesholy shit you're a giant
0 likesI cried so badly with the "Do it for her" sign homer made with her pictures.
30 likesThe beatles invented music
0 likesI don't think you're using "high concept" properly
0 likeswait..... how many videos? im colorblind, and literally cant see the change in hue, so now I'm wondering how many times I've seen green simpsons and thought they were yellow. 0.o
0 likesLife is hell is so good
0 likesIt’s funny that you mention Banksy because within the Graffiti world he is now seen as everything that graffiti writers/artists work against
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The people have changed by glorifying him...and skirt blame and responsibility for corrupting him. So they blame him...
18 likesBanksy is the Simpsons of street art. Used to be subversive, now he desperately tries to be.
43 likes@Mutsu Hanma lol true
1 likeThat thing where he shredded a piece of his art as it was being auctioned off was pretty cool.
11 likes@Rafael Geraldo Good comparison.
2 likes@Matt J Too bad it failed to do as it was supposed to and failed to fully destroy the artwork, made sure it was auctioned off at an even higher price. Which kinda backfired on what he was trying to do.
0 likes@TestName #3343 truth is, even if the art piece was destroyed, the statement they made "we just witnessed art being made" would still hold water and it would still sell at a higher price and it would have still made banksy sad
0 likesI only know this through memes
0 likes5:10
0 likesAre you talking about Gen X or Zoomers?
Very Vsauce intro of you.
0 likesI ALREADY WATCHED THE VIDEO CAN YOUTUBE STOP RECOMMENDING IT TO ME ALREADY
1 like3:32 meet the sniper
0 likesYes Homer is lazy, gluttonous and stupid, but he has alot redeeming qualities that imo outshine his short comings. He's taken on multiple second jobs to support his family, or in some cases just give them a better Christmas, he sacrificed his dream job at the bowlarama to go back to that soul killing power plant for Maggie, he organized an effort to rebuild the Flanders house after it was destroyed, and when he sets his mind to something (whether it's getting fat enough for disability or becoming Mr. Plow) he gets it done. This is a man who is just doing the best he can to enjoy life while also supporting his wife and kids. We could use alot more fathers like Homer in America.
0 likesI hate Homer in later seasons (after season 6??) I can't be the only one. He becomes stupid and annoying. Especially in the Simpsons movie.
0 likesI love the gran turismo 3 music!
0 likesI never expected Youtubers to create eye-opening documentaries like this
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It gaves me faith in humanity.
1 likeEye-opening is in the eye of the beholder.. This read like an Op-Dd Opinion piece half-way in.
1 likeSome serious vsauce vibes
0 likes27:39 personal bookmark
0 likesThis has a lot of fluff
0 likeswhat do you call this type of analysis of a show?
0 likesI like the gran turismo music in the background.
0 likesthank you poetic pooper man
1 likeI think I have the next contender on never ever: naim süleymanoglu
0 likesOkay, you just gave away your running gag!!! I still don't get the green tint? Like when we had a tint adjustment on CRT tvs back when the Simpsons was first aired? Or what?
0 likes4:40 I like how he zoomed in on Bill Cosby's face as he said "responsible and virtuous role models" lmao
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ikr
0 likes5:13 WEATHERSCAN!!!!
0 likesDoes anyone know which song plays from 14 minutes in?
0 likesUsing Mario Odyssey music for background is so weird
0 likesi wanna a see a never wever episode about wayne gretzky
0 likesThe actual origin of Frank Grimes is a send up of DFens from Falling Down. He even looks like him.
104 likesGranted, he's supposed to be representative of the common man.
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I thought I was the only one who thought of the resemblance.
7 likesOh yeah! William "DFens" Foster played by Michael Douglass
2 likes@Andrew Elkin Which I believe was Kirk Douglass' favorite role that he's seen his son in.
3 likesIt is pronounced "less affair"
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0 likescan i get a sound track list pls
0 likesUnfortunately i have never been to the US so i am not in springfield
0 likes9:47 Spinach Rag
0 likesI legitimately thought the color-shifting was to keep Content ID off your ass.
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this wasn't as big an issue back when Emp first started doing this
33 likesWell, it is, actually.
17 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
6 likes@NoobedNate That's a great idea
3 likes@engineer_gaming Thanks, FORZA GILLES!
1 likeI have a same thought as you did Jordan.
1 likeDidn't Emp literally state that was the reason in a previous vid? I could have sworn I heard that.
13 likesit's for keeping the king of England off your back
1 likeIt is both. The content ID bot, just like your own preconceptions of what the Simpsons are "supposed to" look like, recognizes them as "being yellow". By shifting them tl green, it is no longer recognizable to the bot, and in a similar way, to the viewer.
3 likesYou mean there's a better way?
0 likesHey @EmpLeon, honest question: Why do you sound like you look like LeafyIsHere?
0 likesJesus. I lasted all of 15 seconds. That's all I could take of this inane drivel. GET TO THE POINT. SPoiler alert, I don't think he ever does.
0 likesanyone else hear mario 64 music around the 14:00 mark?
0 likes3:20 zappa's album :D
0 likesBecause this episode sucked and was the final nail in the coffin of the show's quality....?
0 likes35:53 ayo what bart doin
0 likesLost it when you revealed in epilogue that you're still doing that vsauce gag.
0 likes6:06 I love how badly this aged. FOX is now the very thing it swore to destroy.
10 likesSpringfield is next to maine AND kentucky, so its probably in wyoming
1 likeI can relate to Mr Grimes and I don't like it
0 likesDo you think entirely in journalistic cliches?
0 likesMaybe more about the show and less about a country
0 likesWhat a joke.
0 likesThe simple fact is this. When the other guys slacks off and is lazy. then somebody else has to work harder.
Unless the boss does somthing about it.
Which most often does not happen.
Its not complicated.
The honest worker most often gets treated wrong.
TF2 music, what a Chad move
0 likesI hear Quest World music.
0 likesWait I live in Springfield America? But I'm Australian
0 likesTo the people of Springfield, Homer is Azathoth, and they care not.
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I mean I can’t say anything but this is too true
5 likesThe music gives me flashbacks of T.f
0 likes2
Damn
2 likesJust damn
do a video on the world's secret religion
0 likesI mean holy fuck this is good
0 likesMy father feels rampant hate for this show as it is, and this here is the main proof that I should show this episode to him. This is an episode for, among others, people who already hated Homer. What will it mean to watch the character representing you as an audience die such a stupid death?
13 likesFrank kinda looks like avgn
1 likedental plan...Lisa needs braces...
0 likes13:11 steamed hams
0 likesYo why tf was Rusty Cage at the end? Like outta left field. Not complaining though lol
0 likesLOVE THE TF2 MUSIC ON CALIFORNIA XD
0 likesyour oppinion on "a star is burns" episode?
0 likes22:39 is this who spamton g spamton is based off
0 likesI'm liking the Gran Turismo music.
0 likes5:05 sound familiar?...
0 likesAl bundy was the shit
0 likesHey, Michael Vsauce here. How fast can you run?
0 likesCan someone please tell me what the music is from around the 7:00 to the 8:00 mark? It's on the tip of my tongue.
0 likesGreat use of Gran Turismo music
0 likesWho elso noticed that he used the snipers theme?
0 likeswhat is the music you use in the segment a young cartoonist
0 likesnothing after season 8 counts
0 likesProblem with taking the cynicism of the episode on board: Homer lives an existence protected from long term consequences.
31 likesNever seen this channel but after that intro I'm not longer interested
0 likesIs that how americans pronounce Laisser-faire?
0 likesi dint know gen x was depressing wondering why gen z pick up from i am gen z.
0 likeswait ive heard this one before
0 likesamazing
0 likesFrank Grimes is a soijack
0 likesMy copy of simpsons hit and run was corrupted and it made all the simpsons green
0 likesHey Emplemon Can you tell me what Video is when kid is shaking his head crazy like Mack what is it called
0 likesBart: "But we're just like the Waltons, we pray for the depression to end too!"
306 likesSICK. BURN. Has Bush ever been dunked on harder than this?
i legit live in spring field 3:00
0 likesEvergreen god
0 likespeople... like homer?
0 likesmusic at 13:34
0 likesSuper Mario 64 - Bowser's Road
God, Frank has expressed how I've felt all my life.
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I think there are a few of us that feel like Frank Grimes, but I feel the takeaway is that we need to focus solely on self success and not compare our circumstances to and belittle others for their success. Otherwise anyone with success of any amount will have a horde of their own Grimeys griping about how that person doesn't deserve it and they do (regardless of merit), and it all degenerates into Crab Bucket mentality.
3 likesHard work does pay off. But it may not pay off as well as others. As long as you are proud of your success you'll do fine.
0 likesThat laissez-faire was very lasé-faieuw
0 likesoh hey, this was made on my birthday
0 likesThe way you pronounce Laissez-faire hurts my soul
0 likesgood video
1 likewhen you can, you should prevent unfairness. When it's out of your control, be like homer. Two attitudes for two different types of situations, both are important
9 likesThe American dream is kicking out everyone who isn't American
1 likeOne size fits all
0 likesI am not worried about how others make it to the top but how I may -Me
1 like"springsfield home location will always remain a engima." Its been said many times by the creators its the most common city name and its still a made up city. Now im skeptical if any other info you provide is true or journalistic bullshit.
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@niteowl Its ok if what I said, although extraordinarily simple, confused you. This man is trying to make sense of "Springfield" The name of the cartoon, as they named the city that. The creators said the city has nothing to do with anything as its just a made-up city, they picked Springfield as its the most common city name in America. It has nothing to do with anything special. it was not a creative decision, it was as basic of a decision as adding lettuce to a sandwich.
0 likes"responsible, virtuous role models"
514 likeszooms on Pill Cosby
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36 likespill
26 likesPut the pills in her drink, Cosby....
28 likesThis is too good
9 likespill
8 likesPill Cosby Bill's Evil Twin
8 likesIf you know. You know
3 likesPills in the pudding pops
1 likeNobody knew about that back when the Simpsons hit the air, everyone knew him for the Cosby Show & telling other black comedians not to "work blue" as he put it, in retrospect we should have seen it coming, like with Ted Bundy writing rape prevention guides in Seattle or John Wayne Gacy being a clown at childrens' parties, or James Joseph D'Angelo being a cop.
0 likes@CitrusOrange What did Pill do to be more evil than Bill?
0 likesWhy is it pronounced "Greyning" instead of "Growning"?
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It's a Dutch name, with different rules from English. Another example I know is the actor who plays Chekov from "Star Trek", Walter Koenig--which is pronounced "KAYnig".
0 likes@Robin Chesterfield didn't know that, learned something new today 👍
0 likesCause it’s too real
0 likeswas.....was that "Aqua TV show show" at the end"???
0 likes10/10
1 likeEmpLemon has been showing his real life self a lot more in recent videos. Remember back when he was more anonymous?
6 likesSo why the fuck do you make them green?
0 likesvsauce any% speedrun
0 likesHappy birthday this video
2 likesthat’s crazy but why are they green
0 likesMusic at 33:33 is from a game... Gran Turismo? Idr where I heard this song from lol.
0 likesKwol a dankpods reference
1 liketheres no A in groening
0 likesGreat video. The first 14 minutes are filler and can be skipped with no consequences for the rest of the video.
0 likesI grew up watching the simpsons and have always known that seasons 4-8 were the truly best episodes of the series, there are so many layers and truths packed in there.
5 likesThis was a brilliant analysis, Homer always was the more sympathetic character to me for the reasons you outlined here, he represents the enlightened man in modern America.
did I hear gran turismo 4 music in the background?
0 likesPredicted Trump
0 likesYet that budget comment in retrospect lol you win some you lose some
as a zoomer who grew up on adult cartoons and youtube videos, its hard to imagine the simpsons being hip, avant-garde, and edgy.
7 likesIn rewatching this video (16:40) I noticed you totally forgot about the part where America was founded on a desire for religious freedom. That, I believe, has always been a driving factor in American pursuits, either ignoring religion or embracing it.
8 likesExcellent analysis. I’ve thought for some time that season 8 was pound for pound the best season of the show, but also the last “good” one. Season 9 had some highlights, but basically the magic was gone forever. RIP Frank G.
1 likeGreat essay. I Never thought this deep about the Simpsons before.
8 likesBe more like Homer, be more like his enemy, just don't tip the scales. Changing our world for the better requires a grip on reality.
4 likesWow man. You made me think deeper than I would ever anticipate for a Simpson's episode. One of the best videos I've seen on youtube.
2 likesyou know this videos alot better than I thoght it was gonna be
6 likes-sometimes whats better than rebelling against the systom is exploiting the systom
I think thats really insiteful in some ways
While I may have been born in 2005, I did still manage to watch all 8 seasons of the Simpsons as an 10 or 11 year old, I think? Thanks to my family always watching it on TV and me watching for myself at times... So yeah... I was a little late to the party but, I’m still glad I experienced it nevertheless!
2 likesHoly fuck dude, this was incredible. Not only an incredible analysis of an episode I love of a show I love, but I think you genuinely gave me some sage advice. I feel I gained perspective from this. Just wanted to say thanks, this was a great experience for me.
7 likesMission Hill is actually a pretty good show.
1 likePeople now argue that it was ahead of its time, hence why it didn’t survive.
Also it was on a network that didn’t cater to the series’ demographic
This one and the one where Homer leads the strike are the two best episodes regarding class consciousness. IMO "So we march day and night by the big cooling tower. They have the plans but we have the power!" So good! South Park's 2 part amazon episodes "unfulfilled" Are also REALLY great.
1 likeI appreciate this content, thank you for sharing.
0 likesI kinda missed the whole Simpsons thing, it was the 90s and I had better things to do than watch television. Now, it's the 20s and it's too late for hair loss prevention.
I work myself to exhaustion every day. I save most of the money I make with no real plan to spend it and I feel like I have nothing. When I was a kid I enjoyed this episode but I had no idea that I would become Frank Grimes. I had two months off at the beginning of the pandemic when I was the most stressed out ive ever been and it absolutely saved me from having a mental breakdown like the end of the episode.
1 likeFirst video I have watched by @EmpLemon. Found it very entertaining and informative. That is why I subscribed. Good content.
0 likesI like how the way you described gen x was literally the way this generation is working our right now.
1 likeJust found your channel and specially this video. It's 4am here and I'm literally having the best moment of the day, your video is perfect, please continue! Love from France :)
0 likesJust awesome!! loved it.. true quality material my good sir
0 likesMan.. it's time. I need to go and watch the early Simpsons. If I only I could have tuned in during its prime..
0 likesBeautiful. Well done. Thank you.
0 likesIt's difficult to analyze this episode dispassionately now...But I remember watching this (Simpsons was my favorite show) and hating this episode at the time. I utterly despised it and I stopped watching the show regularly. To me this is the point when Homer became a complete idiotic cartoon joke, rather than a flawed character. So this to me is as bad as the Skinner episode for the ruination of the show.
0 likesabsolutely incredible content
0 likesI’ve never even watch The Simpsons but I feel much smarter now
0 likesYou should do a Never Ever on Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush, who passed away a year ago.
1 like"had to enter hell"
10 likes>Los Angeles
Yeah...yeah you're not wrong.
Grimes is a hateful and evil character that got exactly what he deserved, I will never understand any sympathy towards that dweeb.
1 likeI would like to be Grimes,but everyday i turn more and more into Homer
1 likeThe covid pandemic was like seeing an army of homer's enemies suddenly struck with the realization that without work there is no need to be who they are and thus they are slaves pretending to be free in a society where you can just counterfeit money and do absolutely nothing without any repercussion aside from dying... which happens anyway so it might as well be from excess.
0 likesi could have done without the first 15 minutes of this video, although i think it was very well done.
0 likesi love TheRealJims, cool of you to collab with a smaller channel like that
0 likesThe first few seasons of the Simpsons were so good they were actual stories that made you care about the characters now the show is nonsense and it's time to end it
0 likesI used to completely feel for Grimes… I used to be him. And assumed others judged me that way as well…. Then I learned my flaw. And I’m so much more happy now!!!!! Don’t blame the people, blame the system. Also you have no idea what goes on in their life, and no one cares about you. It’s free-ing :).
3 likesThe book “subtle art of not giving a fukk” really changed my demeanor.
Isn’t what happened to Generation X (as per your description) literally what’s happening to our current generation?...
2 likesGreat job. Always liked this episode and found it very conclusive, and now I have words as to why.
0 likesI stg when I was a kid my dad said that the Simpsons were actually green and our TV was messed up. It took me a bit to realize lmao
1 likeThe simpsons had like 3 good seasons and somehow that’s justification for dragging it out for 30 years
0 likesThis is how I felt about my brother for years until now, this account opened my eyes to my own faults. I live in a Prius going on five years now. It’s my own flaws not my brother getting treated better than me growing up. It doesn’t mean it still don’t hurt but I need to be more in love with myself and stop hating my brother and people like him. He didn’t put me here, I did. No wonder why I cry when watching “Better Call Saul” he has the same relationship with his brother. In a way we all have a bit of Frank Grimes in all of us.
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I wouldn't be too hard on myself. It is hard to be productive without taking personal responsibility but at the same time we are kites in a hurricane with a myriad of factors creating what we become. It is unlikely you could've become anything different with the circumstances you had to endure and everything happens via cause and effect.
0 likesAlso the overall theme of Better Call Saul is how the privileged and white collar class tend to dominate in a stable society due to the nature of society and people on lower rungs of the ladder are extremely disadvantaged (all while being morally judged by the upper class) to the point where an ambitious and prideful man may feel compelled to engage in criminal activity to satisfy his self-esteem.
sooooo what i'm gathering from this is that homer is right to be lazy (in a sense) because the world doesn't simply reward hard work, and thus his effort would be wasted for nothing...and that Grimes represents the ideal in case the world DID reward hard work, so his bitterness comes from optimism/trust in the system to reward his effort + the incongruency that belief has with reality.
0 likesin other words: "you tried your best and you failed miserably. the lesson is, never try."
18:12 If you know the context, the picture used for Lust actually corresponds to Gluttony lol
0 likesWhat should Frank Grimes have done? I think I'm like him.
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Instead of hating homer he should’ve hated his unfair employer
0 likes15:13 A fan of Weatherscan music I see. Truly a man of culture.
0 likes"In a way all of us live in Springfield"
7 likesMe, an European: no, no i don't think I do.
19:31 Damn Homer crippin 😎
1 likeThe clip of the simpsons as Minions actually shook me to my core. What the actual fuck 😂
0 likesYikes this episode was about 10-15 minutes longer than it needed to be, but got away with it because Frank Grimes...
0 likesas someone who is colour blind, i never noticed a difference in the colour until you pointed it out
0 likesWho else wants "there will Never Ever be another animated film like WALL-E"?
0 likes"He had to enter hell, Los Angeles"
1 likeThis quote couldn't be closer to the truth, I hope that silicone city breaks apart from the mainland and floats away into the great pacific garbage patch
3:32 Snipin's a good job, mate. It's challengin' work, outta doors. I guarantee you'll not go hungry
1 likeHomer and Marge Groening that is the most Dutch surname I have ever seen in my life lol.
0 likesWhen the BitFS music started I swear you started to sound just like Pannenkoek
2 likes5:16 is sounding a bit like the experience of Millennials right about now...
0 likesProbably stating the obvious, but Grimes is basically the main character from the movie Falling Down, only perhaps a lot less extreme.
1 likeemplemon: " witnessed the mighty and unbeatable us military get humiliated through a fiasco in some part of the world most of them couldn't even find on a map"
0 likesme: bro, it happened last week.. and it's still happening now!! lol
There will never ever be a new episode in this series
0 likesPeople: why did you make the Simpsons green?
0 likesEmpLemon: Because I felt like making them green lmao
But first, he had to go to hell. Cut to LA. Never gets old or any less accurate
1 likeWow, this is the perfect analysis
1 like33:57 missed chance to bring up the Simpsons movie when talking about "tokens"
0 likes"you either die a legend, Or you live long enough to become the villian"
0 likes- me
You know society has fallen when the most profound voice on YouTube is a former YouTube pooper
0 likesthat simpsons hit and run song just 'hits' ;)
0 likesThis is the episode that killed Simpsons for me.
0 likesIn one episode they moved the town 2 miles so I think the town moved around the US
0 likes32:55 This music is either from Gran Turismo 4 or 5, I can't remember which. Also, fantastic video, thank you!
0 likes5:00 - 6:20 This segment didn't age well
0 likesi remember buying the simpsons sing the blues cassette tape to put in my walkman.
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those days tv was so boring, having a show like the simpsons on tv was just awesome. and you had to be home on time lol .
0 likesThis was a great video to watch
0 likesThe Simpsons' fame got buried along with Frank Grimes.
0 likesI don’t know why but this episode stuck with me
1 likeThis is probably the best and also worst to conclude this.
0 likesCollectivism vs Laissez Faire. One is too focused on "equality" and one is too focused on "liberty"
That intro section is some old school style Vsauce, reminds of me 2013 Vsauce.
0 likesat a point early in the video you referred to the Simpsons as one of the longest running sit-coms in America. This is not accurate. The Simpsons are the longest running sit-com in the world. Look it up.
0 likesThere's a lemon behind that rock!
0 likesReally interesting video 👍
1 likeI learnt so much from this video
0 likesI hear that Phantasy Star Online music in there...you can't hide it from me EmpLemon!^^
0 likesi think the change came when Homer got squashed by the vending machine
0 likesthere will Never Ever be another Simpsons episode like E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) (formerly Homer’s Enemy)
0 likesSeason 1 is down to earth? In the first season there was an episode with an evil babysitter, bart getting sent to France and being forced to work as a child slave and the first Sideshow Bob episode.
0 likesStrong VSauce vibes at the start. Awesome Video!
0 likesWhy did I just watch a 41 minutes essay on the Simpsons ?
0 likesMDE was the simpsons of this generation but it was killed off before it could leave its golden age
0 likesI’m not even going to lie I’m a Homer and I’m a woman I coast through life and have a pretty good life
0 likesSo what this episode is saying is
0 likesJust live with little to no care in the world?
2:53 Wow, I think that you mean all you americans live in Springfield
0 likesResponsible and virtuous role models hahahah
0 likesI honestly just thought you made The Simpsons green to avoid copyright
0 likesSimpson, you've got a five thirteen!
1 likeThe use of Steam Gardens ost gets a sub from me lol
0 likesThe simpsons destroyed everything they had. thats a fact
0 likesbut i thought alcohol was the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems, not capitalism
0 likes32:47 Where can I find this chart online?
1 likeMy favorite episode
0 likesYellows my favorite color lol
1 likeHow is nobody commenting on the beautiful VSauce impression at the beginning?
0 likesOMG is the first time i heard someone using a soft machine song on any video, kudos
0 likesGrimes looks like the D-fens guy from Falling Down.
0 likesWant to see a real life Homer
0 likeswatch Bad Chad ,i would die if he said Doh
Not sure why I keep getting videos recommending simpsons content, since I have never liked the simpsons from the very beginning, and I was there when it first started.
0 likesWeird thing is...while I hated the simpsons, I loved futurama. Probably because the Voice actors in Futurama were less annoying. To this day. both bart and marge's voices annoy me so much that I can't sit through a single episode they appear in.
I like how you use grand turismo music I just love it
0 likesReally liked the aqua teen hunger force outro music. very nice
0 likeswhat is the tool used for the ratings' graph @ 1:11 ?
0 likesSometimes I feel that’s my life, work so hard at every thing but nothing. For example I’ve been working for 3 years on my channel but nothing. Of course what the hell am I gonna do? It is what it is.
0 likesDamn remember when the fox network was the edgy one? And not conservative?
0 likesDamn thats like. Pretty funny considering what it is now.
"difinitively" while being like 0.02 above second place.
0 likesgrimes reminds me the movie, falling down.
0 likesYou misspelled “E-I-E-I-D'oh”
0 likes5:17 guess it's time for gen X 2.0
0 likesSimpsons basically became trash after season 10
0 likesWhat a trip. You got almost 2.5 million views but less than 120K Likes and less than 9K comments. I think it might be because you didn't offer enough light at the end of the tunnel. Life is unfair as S; but it is how we handle it that defines us. We should be concerned with everything; but to worry about anything that's not directly under our control is just a waste of time.
0 likesHow do you make a 40 minute video about a 20 minute show
0 likesholy shit this came out this year
0 likesi feel like that little schpiel about america was missing some pretty important information.... like the genocide lol
0 likeshes the guy from the movie "falling down" with michael douglas
0 likesJokes on you, I don't live in Springfield, or in America
0 likesha, I thought he was supposed to look like D-Fens!
0 likesBruh why tf Matt Groening's grand parents name their kids after the simpsons???
0 likesLOL, like almost looks like the Angry Video Game Nerd!
2 likeslol "inequality always manages to slip through the cracks" then you show a diagram of SAT scores by race with blacks and hispanics consistently scoring the lowest...you call that inequality? that's genetics my friend
3 likesthat jims part was by far the worst. he's just rambling about nonsense that doesn't have to to with anything.
0 likes25:32 LOL!
0 likesDont ever say "laissez faire" again
0 likesDark simpsons is awesome
0 likesYoutube: 41min analysis of a cartoon and its cultural impact
0 likesMe: Hehe funny cartoon
weird this video is longer than the actual episode.
0 likes9:23: is that a Final Fantasy 6 song?
0 likesMusic used in this video? Really great video but I'd love to know.
1 likeso basically bert kreischer is homer simpson
0 likesDoctor Spiral: he may not be the best doctor around, but at least he'll make you an appointment during the pandemic
27 likes"Homer proves to be kind and forgiving"
693 likesIs that what you call the man who strangles his son every episode?
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im homer simpson
56 likeschhh....you wish
i love how blissful homer is...hes not perfect his life sucks but he still puts his life in high value despite his downs...hes like yeah right you wish your life was as great as mine..he cherishes the small moments and things he does have...he is a happy fish in a small pond...he does not need more to be happy...
Old comparative Homer frequently did, newer blissful Homer not so much
34 likesimagine having Bart as your son, come on dude
14 likes...well he never did it to kill him only as a visual representation of his frustration from a child that refused to listen and actively tried to create mayhem.
25 likesthere's a whole other video essay that could be written about the difference between how the writers intended to portray homer, how their social blind spots and changing culture cause him to not actually come across as intended, and how both those things change over the course of the series
24 likesWell, he tried being forgiving with Grimey, despite him declaring being his enemy to his face
3 likes@Asmosis Jones That's because Homer has that crayon embedded inside his brain. See how miserable he became once he had the crayon removed from his brain?
3 likesits a cartoon joke and never actually hurts bart in any way
5 likes@Asmosis Jones he literally abused his child
3 likes@Paris Knight Everyone abuses Bart. He just brings out the worst in people.
3 likes@Vallam23 Originally Homer comes off as a flawed but well meaning family man. Once the writers start having him try to blow up his family over an area code changing he just becomes a cartoon.
2 likes@Thomas Lynch that doesn’t disproves what I said. He still abuses Bart. It doesn’t matter if others do. And blaming him for his own abuse is victim blaming. I know it’s not real but regardless Homer is an abuser if we go by canon. Bart is a victim and troubled child. No need to debate canon. The whole point here is that Homer isn’t a good person by hypotheticals. He just isn’t. That doesn’t mean you can’t like him as a character or relate to him it just means he is not a good person at all by real life standards.
3 likes@Paris Knight None of the simpsons family members are good people if we apply real life standards to them. Any violence the family inflicts on each other is presented as cartoony and lacking in any kind of realism or sense of consequence. Every member of the family inflicts damage on each other as early as the 4th episode. Homer's actual character is presented as a well-meaning family man who wants to do what's right for his children who's no more of a monster than anyone else in the family.
2 likes@Paris Knight Why are we applying real-life standards to violence that isn't intended to be realistic in any way? In a conversation that never brought up real-life violence? By that logic Bart is an abuser for attacking his sister unprovoked and electrocuting her just for a laugh in season 1.
0 likes@Andrew Smith if you are trying to apply real world morality to a fictional character you have to take their actions through said real world morality. Look, none of the characters in the Simpsons would be good people in real life. Period. That’s okay, they aren’t meant to be, and they are cartoons. My point is that you cannot make the argument that Homer is good person objectively ESPECIALLY after all the Flanderization he’s went through. I specifically stated this and so did other that we are taking in real world standards because OP gave off the impression that the standards he’s judging Homer in and the video is also using real world events, social norms, etc, to analysis a cartoon show. The truth is you cannot automatically write off real world standards because the Simpson is not sterilized. It doesn’t have a coherent world and rules. If we judged the show by it’s inconsistent morality everyone would just like a saint because you could make excuses for everyone for being confusing and incoherent. Anyways…The word of the day is: COMPREHENSION. Dude it was never that serious to begin so please let it go.
0 likesWait, generation z is the new gen x?
0 likes"Responsible and virtuous role models."
210 likesAlright, to be fair, he fit that description at the time.
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That part got an audible "oof" from me.
18 likesBlah Blah Blah Live long enough to become a villain or whatever.
7 likes@redgunnit Apt analysis.
0 likesAs far as people knew. Accusations against him go to behaviour quite a while back. The earliest accusation regards things that happened in 1965.
0 likes@TheSergeantatarms Yeah he had people accusing him of various shit for years, the main reason why nobody knew about all of it was that he was such a powerful and beloved person in Hollywood for a while. It really wasn't until Hannibal Buress did that one stand-up routine about him that people really started paying attention (yes, really. Look it up).
6 likesThe fact that he “fit that description at the time” is exactly the reason he was able to get away with being a monster.
2 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
1 likehere's an example of over analyzation. "why do we like homer?" no need for all that - he represents us all - stuff. we like homer because he's written as a comedic character. HE'S FUNNY! his dialogue is a series of dimwitted and observationally perceptive one liners placed into different contexts, references and plots.
0 likeshe's also written as a sympathetic character. things ALWAYS go wrong for homer. but he usually ends up back on his feet anyway, right where he started all along. the "enemy" episode was more of an antithesis to this sympathetic driven character. so, no need to over analyze the simpsons. the show is liked because its funny, fast moving, creative and unpredictable.
AND, thanks to the Lisa character, the show offers an intellectual side. its perceptively critical of society. and perhaps this is where people see themselves. personally, i relate to Lisa more than any other character. she's the smartest, most aware and perceptive, most underappreciated and most misunderstood member of the cast. i can relate to that.
so the mystery of why people like the simpson's has been solved. just set back, enjoy the damned show and try to learn something from it. its as simple as that.
i didn't pay attention because of the jazzfunk you had playing hahahaha
0 likesThere will never ever be a better Simpsons joke like Sneed's Feed and Seed (formerly Chuck's)
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sneed-sama..... i kneel
5 likesi can't sneed
3 likeswasnt expecting to hear a tf2 track lol
0 likesI’m rewatching this episode right now and I can notice something about meritocracy.
3 likesFirst of all, Burns gets inspired by Grimes’ life story, asks Smithers to hire him and then forgets about him and hires a dog as his Vice President. I’ve heard these stories countless times.
Second, Grimes is alienated by meritocracy. He thinks that because he has a degree and he works his ass off, that means capitalism should treat him with fairness. Let’s make it clear: meritocracy doesn’t exist. You depend mostly on luck. That’s what Homer has: he doesn’t know anything about Nuclear Power Plants, nor the economy, he doesn’t even know how he got that big house in the first place. That’s all luck. Homer isn’t aware of that, but some rich people will always try to alienate us into thinking that if we work hard, we’ll be as rich as they are. No, you won’t become Elon Musk by studying hard.
Great analysis, great video btw!
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And Bart says “finally my hard work paid off” when he purchases his factory. He’s 10 years old, he’s not even a grade A student 🤣, which hard work?
0 likesI don't remember how i got recommended to your channel, but since i did i've watched the last 2 years worth of content you've made in full, keep it up, this series in particular is a major banger
7 likesis that the starcraft sound track in the back at 14:40?
0 likes"Springfield isn't in America so much as America is in Springfield."
49 likesI don’t care a damn about the vid I AM HERE FOR THE GODDAMN GRAN TURISMO MUSIC AND VSAUCE MUSIC
1 likeYou have to have a very high IQ in order to understand “Homers Enemy”
8 likesIf I told my friends that these videos were philosophical, odds are that they wouldn't believe me, and wouldn't watch the video. How could a YouTube video about an episode of the Simpsons affect you in any way? Honestly I have no idea, but here I am, watching these videos that somehow always gets me thinking about deep stuff. I'm glad I watched it to the end as always. This content is amazing, everyone needs to see it, but I guess we will just have to wait for everyone else discover this for themselves...
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Emp and videogamedunkey are the best youtubers, not only currently, but of all time. I think the reason for this comes down to one simple thing: passion. They seem passionate about making highly rewatchable and well thought out videos that are unlike most. I used to see so many channels pump out a video a day with the same exact format as the last video and it becomes not only repetitive, but increasingly more boring.
1 likeWhen I watch a YouTube video, I want to watch something enjoyable, well made, cohesive, rewatchable, and not exactly like the video before it and I think Emporer Lemon and Videogamedunkey are the greatest examples of that ever.
And oh boy was this particular video a MASTERPIECE in a long line or perfection from Emp.
2 likes@Comrade Joseph Stalin of the USSR
2 likes1) You haven't watched all the YouTubers on the platform, thus you cannot conclusively state that (not to mention that many channels and content do not exist anymore).
2) What you come to YouTube for is not what others come for. Some people love the disposable everyday content that comes out of certain channels. You cannot say they are better or worse in a general sense.
Some people prefer science channels. Some prefer make-up tutorials. Some prefer vlogs and pranks. Some prefer podcasts. Some prefer animations. And some simply enjoy whatever they happen to enjoy at one point or another without a clear unified genre, tone or make.
I agree that Emp and Dunkey are extremely rewatchable as I have personally spent hundreds of hours consuming their content. I don't think they are the best. They are fantastic but the title of "the best" is impossible to determine in a general sense because context influences their "rank". You cannot define a YouTube video on a ranked ladder because the definition is worthless for that.
In case you simply made a personal comment of your preferences, then this entire comment can be ignored. But I would implore you use language that communicates that it is indeed coming from your perspective and does not necessarily apply to everyone or what many would call "objectively" (I dislike the way the word 'objectively' is popularly used so I prefer to avoid it as much as possible). I cannot discern from your comment the state of the address - personal or general - and thus I responded in the case of the latter.
Side note:
I think many of Emps videos have flaws including this one but they are still extremely well made and have mostly very interesting ideas and messages. As much as I like his content, I think there are far better channels on the platform if you filter out a lot of their content. Their best outshines Emp's best by a lot.
@SiMe "(I dislike the way the word 'objectively' is popularly used so I prefer to avoid it as much as possible)" then used it correctly and be the example to follow, so others can "copy" you and use it correctly, stop being a snob.
1 like@SiMe
0 likesReally? You don't have to agree with my opinion or write a wall of text as to why i'm wrong. I don't have to word anything to sound "less objective" and I don't need you to implore me to do so. I don't care about your opinion and you needn't care about mine. That being said, Dunkey and Emp are the best youtubers and I mean that as objectively as possible.
@exhoost fume and @BallisticaMetal
0 likesThanks fellas.
@BallisticaMetal I can't because I won't be understood because it requires explaining the entire epistemological premise behind it first. The popular definition is flawed in most of its applications but most people kind of understand the point so I saw it as a preferable way to communicate my message here. I thought to maybe make a video about it since that way it could possibly be easier to understand with some visual aid. It's a complex topic, so trying to explain it in the middle of a comment would be unreasonable imo
1 like@Comrade Joseph Stalin of the USSR then my comment was on point. Thanks for making it clear. Although, perhaps I used the word "implore" incorrectly here. I'll say "strongly suggest" instead. I never said you have to do anything and I didn't have to make my comment either. I simply chose to do so as have you. I agree that we don't need to agree on opinions. I was simply addressing your comment since it seemed like it wasn't just an opinion but more of a statement of fact (which is impossible to conclude without setting a standard and including everybody else in it). That's why I'd suggest you use different phrasing to make it clearer that it is indeed just your opinion (there are subtle ways to do without using "in my opinion" after everyy sentence).
1 likeI just presented the case for my suggestion to you. That's all. And I usually write longer comments. That's how I am. If someone chooses to not read it because it's long, is fair enough. I don't expect many people to read my comments. But some do and that's good enough for me.
You don't need to do anything nor do you have to care about what others have to say. I simply expressed myself, as have you.
@SiMe Well that's the beginning bro. The video can help everyone, so go for it!
0 likesThey should make a simpsons episode were they Are green
0 likes"Believing that we are now subject to the same tyrannical oligarchy from which our forefathers originally fled"
492 likes"The only difference now is that we have run out of oceans to cross."
...Jesus.
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there's still Alaska I guess
9 likes@SlenderSmurf (λ)³ & space
8 likes@SlenderSmurf (λ)³ Hence why Homer went to Alaska after escaping the Capsule in the Simpsons movie.
20 likesWe're surrounded by an infinite ocean. Everyone is just waiting for the ships to be built.
24 likes@SlenderSmurf (λ)³ It's owned by Oil Interests, sorry.
2 likesTbh I want to move to Russia
1 likeWell there is Mars
2 likes@izzy zzzycwycz Yeah nigga and so what?
9 likesConsidering Bill Gates may starve us out, looks like we got another obstacle. Just saying. Tyrants blood to shed.
7 likes@Fat Cat Bill Gates isn't starving people...
3 likes@izzy zzzycwycz Racist by today’s standards?
2 likesThe Simpsons - When the Series that challenged the system, becomes the system
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Sounds like that Black Mirror episode, which is pretty accurate in this scenario tbh.
7 likessounds like fight club
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3 likesPyrovision
Saw this episode as a kid and the only person I could compare Grimes to was D.Fense from ‘Falling Down’.
86 likesToday I look at Grimes and I see I’m looking into a mirror.
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@Joker M yes
3 likes@three three three >forces a guy to take drugs
4 likes@Gamerappa yeah, i kinda feel bad puppeteering this guy's body to take a bong hit with my psychic powers. it's funny though
10 likespika:
4 likesCan confirm that it was funny.
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@three three three incredible response , 10/10.
0 likes@MillywiggZ nice
0 likes@Gamerappa nice
0 likesNo, they will all be titled something else obviously
0 likesi think seasons 3-10 are the golden age, not 1-7
0 likesI felt that Don Hertzfeldt's couch gag was way more brutal in it's take on The Simpsons than Banksy's
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His take on everything is more brutal than anyone else's
8 likesI heard TRJ and got happy
0 likesthe next one better be “there will never ever be another Simpsons joke like Sneeds.”
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formerly chuck's
15 likesBased and sneedpilled. He better make a video tackling the philosophical masterpiece that was that throwaway joke.
8 likesoutside of this I want him to talk about Ovechkin. because there will never ever be another hockey player like Ovechkin.
0 likesYou know, the episode where Grime's son tried to kill homer for revenge literally left me dumbfounded like....its too hard to believe that Grimes could been older like flanders is and have an adult son, so i always though. How come Grime's Son grows up but the simpsons stay the same and don't age!?
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Well the joke can be that the realistic person has to age while the cartoony ones don’t.
19 likesTheRealJim covered that paradox.
0 likes"But before he could do that, he had to enter Hell."
537 likesShows LA
Based.
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lol
1 like@Marcos Cárdenas username checks out
33 likes@Marcos Cárdenas i know...? that's why i said that.
20 likesliterally what life in hell was about?
3 likes@Marcos Cárdenas you're saying it like it's a good thing! Sad!
1 like@Marcos Cárdenas I thought areas with mostly white people were supposed to be rich because of their privilege??? 🤔
8 likes@Marcos Cárdenas just look up "sarcasm" and see what I'm talking about.
12 likesAnd quite possibly Redpilled
0 likes@Marcos Cárdenas you have to go back, pedro!
1 likeHe'd already been to Evergreen States College.
0 likesEMP is based, he just shows little hints of the red pills
2 likes@Scientist Walter No hes sadly not a Leftist and therefore an Enemy of the Working Class, why should I trust him?
0 likes@atur chomicz lmao nice bait
1 like@Marcos Cárdenas hey don’t talk about Alabama like that lel
0 likes@atur chomicz Youre an enemy of your chances of getting laid
1 like@Yoy Hue I am asexual, I litearlly dont have any desire for sex. Do you have anything else besides an empty insult?
1 like@Marcos Cárdenas Thats extremley hard to believe after everything he has said over the last 6 years but good for him I guess?
0 likes@Arrenjee look at the politicians, policies and income inequality in the south. That's what's bad about it. We legit had to have an whole ass civil rights movement to end segregation there lol
0 likesI been the Frank Grimes character at the job twice before. I been passed over for promotion and had to take orders from those who are incompetent whom you either humble yourself to get along with or start butting heads with them. Then they try to treat you like some pee-on by putting you on trivial job assignments jusr to show you whose in charge.
417 likesBut, the truth is nobody rewards hard workers and good workers aren't missed until the company is stuck with a bunch of incompetent workers who can't even carry your work load nor do it as fast and efficient as you can.
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"Alone you beg, together you bargain"
56 likesTheres a statistic that says something like, 10% of employees do 50% of the work, the other 50% is done by the remaining 90%
43 likesThe harder you work, the better the vacation your boss gets to go on over the Holidays
50 likesI'm not sure if "pee-on" was an intentional misspelling or not but either way it's hilarious
23 likesThat's nothing, I once got a job by saying I had theoretical degree.
3 likes@Alice Kranyk Are you trolling me....if you are then bring it on troll. Let's rap a taste if you're not afraid.
1 like@black cat 👻 you! I understood that reference
1 likeTrue statement.
1 likedamn, that sucks bro, hope all is well...
0 likesYeah, I've been there. That's why I quit being a doctor and now I do art comissions - fuck being a hardworking backbone with a job that makes a huge difference if I'm not properly rewarded - I'd rather be a useless slacker who does next to nothing for a good price and appreciation, since this is what the world is gratifying right now and we need to adapt adequately. I can still presribe myself medicine if I need to, but screw helping the morons who thought they could use me. Being competent and meaningful is severely overrated. Why save a life of a baby for 14 bucks an hour, sweating, stressing out and having to use over a decade of education and being vulnerable to lawsuits, when I can sit around at home in my pajamas scribbling away on a tablet or typing shit?
4 likeslol i work at...basically copying papers for a living.
0 likesI sleep most days cuz i literally have nothing to do and my pay is slightly above average ish in my area.
Since i dont ezactly have hobbies i can at least be lazy pretty much almost every day.
Tho it does get lonely and boring at times.
@Johny No Way start going to the gym, it may solve the laziness problem
0 likes@cellP8 not really. I tried it. Didnt help whatsoever
1 like@Johny No Way dang! That sux, hopefully you will find something to fill in that spare time
0 likes@cellP8 the only thing i fill it with is offline gaming lol. Thats kinda it.
2 likes@Johny No Way Ah!
0 likesI see you are a man of culture :)
@cellP8 umm... no not really ....
0 likes@Johny No Way lol
0 likes@atur chomicz that’s very true I worked in a very understaffed warehouse and all 3 of us quit when they didn’t want to negotiate and my bosses called me and begged to come back the next day and we all went out for drinks and laughed at how none of the trucks would leave that day
3 likes@Hayden Freeman Incredibly based and Co-op pilled👍🏻
1 likePeon, not pee-on.
0 likesSong around 10:00 is the spinach rag
0 likesAnd just when you are struggling with the unfairness of life, EmpLemon makes a video that is in fact just about the unfairness of life.
25 likesThe universe has a message for me.
Now, the real question we should be asking ourselves is “why is emplemon green.”
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He must be a Simpson
0 likesHe lives in a society...
2 likesGenuinely one of the best descriptions of the American Dream I’ve ever heard. And in a simpsons video? I knew you were good after watching the dale video when it first came out 😂
7 likesIt wasn't that much of a stand out episode.
0 likesI must be new to this channel because this is a really well put together piece. One of my long time favorite episodes and I definitely missed a few things.
4 likeswho caught the GranTurismo 3 Dealership menu music?!?
0 likesHomer's Enemy is essentially just "How the f*ck does America work - The Episode"
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It doesn't our tax payer money goes to people who didn't work for it
1 like@Coffin Tears That's what politicians are for.
3 likesi feel like you missed the point of the video
2 likesThe point of the video (in which you can attribute to America & western culture), is that its not worth getting caught up in the unfairness of life. Most of us will never make any great strives in changing world for "the better". We're mostly along for the ride. Holding a grudge against it, will lead to a meltdown - like what happened to Frank Grimes. Still, the ignorant bliss of Homer can only last until you drink down some acid, in sheer foolishness. Maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle of hard work in the rat race & the Laisse-faire approach.
12 likesOr maybe there is no answer. We're all just just coping with the struggles of a world which is burning around us. The two options are blissful denial or running yourself ragged on the treadmill, just to stay in the same place. We're all just opportunistic A-holes who does what's best for them, at the cost of the "greater good".
@Picky Physics Student or we can build solidarity among the working class and work together for the common good, like they’re doing in Vietnam and Cuba
4 likes@Paul Johnson yeah that's not going to fail specularly!
5 likes@Manny Song I mean it hasn’t so far lol; both countries were dirt poor and starving before they changed their governments and now they have vastly higher standards of living thanks to new politics and economics
2 likes@dragonsder the average Cuban lives longer than the average American, is less likely to be homeless, and is far less likely to die during childbirth. But no, Cuba was dirt poor and fascist when they changed their government. Imagine what the richest country in the world could do if it changed its government to work for the people
4 likes@dragonsder Funny how I say the same thing about the US being a dump.
3 likes@dragonsder would you not agree though that Cuba has drastically improved living conditions from the Batista regime?
2 likes@dragonsder that’s because they were stuck under a military fascist slavery state that brutalized their country until the communists kicked them out
2 likes@Kael M So why do so many people risk their lives to come here? We get more immigrants than almost any other country.
0 likes@dragonsder People argued against you and you disagreed even though you have no idea what you’re talking about cause you said you know nothing about Cuba.
0 likes“EmpLemon, or Empey, as he like to be called...”
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I would rather call him emperor, his videos are great
3 likes@nintendo dual-screen me too, I still end up calling him EmperorLemon
2 likesSurely... LIMEY!
7 likesChange the channel Internet Historian.
1 likeWhat's really funny is that I've actually called him this to friends.
0 likesEmpLemon: You... Were on the trending tab? You?
337 likesCorporate accounts: Sure! You've never been? Would you like to see my golden play button?
EmpLemon: NO! I WOULDN'T!
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This is actually perfect.
20 likesMusic is from wooded kingdom in mario odyssey
0 likesSeeing this has been such a huge reminder why I love things like video games or "silly" videos online, because a simple critique of the Simpsons has become a commentary on American society and a small philosophical reflection of life
4 likesHonestly if I won the lottery and died from a lightning strike that would be the happiest and best way to go out. You’re so bliss from that feeling of life changing income and the harsh realities of actually winning the lottery hasn’t hit you yet. And things like the most hopeful then they ever have. You’ll feel very lucky too. Just pure blissfulness ignorance and in a literal flash you’re dead. You didn’t even know you’re dead. So basically you win the lottery and you live the rest of your life in pure bliss and died quick and easy no suffering and honestly a cool way.
0 likesWhat's the song that's playing around the 9 minute mark ?
0 likesgood stuff.
0 likesThis is an absolutely amazing analysis of one of my favorite episodes of the Simpsons. Awesome work!
4 likesSniping's a good job mate
0 likesI've been waiting for you for ages you are the true scale of justice of all commentary channels I have been a fan of yours for ages and when I start my channel I hope you understand you are the true inspiration for the channel I plan on starting you might hear this allot but you must understand this is truly sincere I respect your change from ytp to commentary and I like your style so much I'll steal it but you'll never know who
5 likesStrangely, Homer and Grimes' character dynamic is extremely similar to Spongebob and Squidward's character dynamic. Spongebob is just an entire series based off the same theme this one episode portrayed.
10 likesdidn't this video have a diff title previously.
1 likehigh concept doesn't mean what you think it means
0 likesI'm kinda tired of everyone arguing that a certain point was when the simpsons went sour. It's called a slow decline.
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you know what really grinds my gears?
3 likesIt isn't that it suddenly became sour after season 8, it's just people agree the decline began in season 9
5 likes40 min breakdown of 20 min episode
77 likesLets go
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Where are we going
0 likesIn surprised it wasn’t longer.
1 likewow i bet this dude smells his own farts......
0 likesHomer Simpson was only able to cheat the system because society allowed him to.
7 likes"It takes two to lie: one to lie, one to listen." - Homer Simpson
lol i thought you just had very shitty source material or something and that's why they were green XD
0 likesUnironically the best content creator on YouTube
8 likesSo howd Fox News fly downhill
0 likesWhen you realize that the last word Grimes says is “simp”
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Homer SIMP, son
4 likesNever noticed that dankmus shoutout
0 likesI'm surprised you haven't done one on Muhammad Ali
0 likesThe “Never Ever” series needs to, for the love of Pete, be on Netflix or something. Even more people need to see these then those who already have.
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Disney has the rights, not a chance in hell
2 likesAgreed, this was an all time great youtube video
2 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesI do not think you understand Emp's feelings about corporations, mass media, views, and subscribers. Please unsubscribe
0 likes@joeflosion I don't think emp lemon is a communist or anything lmao, he just hates the whole fakeness of corporations trying to appear authentic when it's all a scam or when they're doing something actively corrupt and wrong, otherwise I doubt he cares all too much. Also every YouTuber cares about views. (I do agree with you though that I don't want it on Netflix because I don't like them lol).
0 likes@jsweeney7359 of course hes not a commie, he's intelligent but not indoctrinated. Thats why hes a conservative
0 likes@joeflosion is the entire other side of the political spectrum 'indoctrinated' to you??
0 likes@perhaps both sides are bad
0 likesA good video is really new already about the seral
0 likesDID U JUST SAY THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND IS A FIGUREHEAD>
0 likesAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
just kidding, great vid.
Our worlds are in danger! To save them and the galaxy we must find the four Cyber Planet Keys before the Decepticons can use them for evil. It is our mission. Hot Shot! Jetfire! Vector Prime! Landmine! Scattorshot! Optimus Prime! Transform and roll out!
0 likesTheirs a Springfield estate where I'm from and an estate called Simpson, Milton Keynes UK
0 likesThere's one clip from the Simpsons that lives rent free in my head and shows that despite his flaws and screwups he is still a good father. Lisa took up ballet only to discover that the other kids all take up smoking and ending up getting addicted by secondhand smoke. And when Lisa's addiction escalates to needing it firsthand, homer just bursts in, slaps the cigarette out of her hands and just unloads several rounds from a Pistol into the cigarette.
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It's also fairly funny with the joke afterwards too!
0 likesGreat video but couldn’t agree less about the Simpsons being past its prime. It’s called evolution. It’s evolved. You don’t need to like it but it’s amazing still
0 likesyes there will
0 likesWhat’s the name of the song @ 17:05?
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Found it: Georges Bizet - Carmen Suite No. 2 - Habanera
0 likesHalloween episode 4 was better.
0 likesVery interesting video, sums up why I think the Simpsons is the best show ever. Not a fan of the "new" episodes but, no one can deny the old episodes and how much heart and dedication was put into them.
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Very true bro.. i think the same could be said for any show that has been running for so many years.
0 likesThere are way too many people in these comments concerned about money and wealth. For one being wealthy is a matter of perspective. Also, nobody here has any right to envy someone else because they feel shitty about their own situation in life. Do something about it. Another thing, a college degree does NOT make you intelligent or more deserving than someone else. That's probably the biggest lie told in the world today. "C's and D's make degrees and open doors for me not thee!" Any idiot who has their mommy and daddy (mistakenly) wiping their ass and buying them a first class citizen ticket (degree) can make it through college. There are even incompetent doctors, lawyers, and engineers in this world we live in. If you're dumb enough to take out student loans when you are 18 years old you deserve the debt and stress. It's beyond ignorant and well into the realm of stupidity to take out those kinds of loans with no stable source of income and no guarantee of employment. "Nobody ever got rich working for someone else." Bullshit. It's very possible if you work consistently and put out quality work. Don't waste your money on frivolous instant gratification bullshit. INVEST. Way too many lazy shit bags in the west making excuses for themselves.
0 likesWhat song is that in the background when they get to season 8. I have heaard it before. I thikn it is from a video game
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Bowser's Road from Super Mario 64
0 likesThank you
0 likesThere's a some Homer & some Grimes in all of us. I'll never forget watching this episode when it aired.
8 likesI remember watching futurama the first time at my grandmothers house. Trying to navigate the cable box when we were used to regular cable. surfing channels and looking at the preview window when we stopped to watch what we thought was simpsons, but because of the older TV the skin looked more yellow like simpsons. Groening, you bloody genius
12 likesBart doing the floss dance was something I really didn't want to see. Thanks for that, mate.
15 likesAs someone born in the 21th century, when the Simpsons were already known in the world for at least a decade, that episode caught my attention for the one realistic character for the first time I've saw it, but it didn't take long to forget about it after seeing the tons of self parody episodes. In my perspective, the actual peak of the show is the movie. They not only made their problems get an actual sense of danger by enhancing it's scale but also put than in a conflict way too different from what they usually handle, and they do it while doing the same critics and references they always did. It's sad to see how after the Simpsons other shows started to hit their peak so much faster, like Family Guy and Rick and Morty that only have 5 seasons yet.
0 likesThis was absolutely brilliant. Thank you for making this!
0 likesThe first ten minutes of this video might be the most perfect and concise explanation for why this is arguably the most important TV show of all-time (or at the very least became the most inspirational).
3 likesI'm impressed this guy has done something that I dont think most people have talked about
2 likesBrilliant video. For every person that grew up watching The Golden age of The Simpsons who still watches to this day, this video is a must watch. I agree with a lot of commenters. Growing up, this episode was unnerving. Overall, this video sums up everything old Simpsons fans have felt the last 20 years or so.
0 likesIve had to have watched the first like 12 seasons like 30-50 times and this was always one of the best. Always had a disc on repeat in my dvd player in my room. Often listened to commentaries like a podcast while playing diablo or mudds. Good times
3 likesI never thought Emperor Lemon would go from making YTPs to making philosophical and historical videos, amazing.
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Just a word of caution and advice: don't just listen to one perspective.
0 likes@CeeStyleDj i love this comment
1 likeThis episode is what I think about when I complain about how many series have no continuity. It's a perfect example that you don't need , for example, Homer to continuously be an astronaut, but that you should at least have people acknowledge he was one.
3 likesI just wish series would be more like this. They can be even more continuous if they want (Adventure Time, for example). But leaving everything as self-contained episodes just ends up leaving them as a formula that gets boring.
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It's a sitcom, that is bound to happen...
0 likesI just wanna say you did a really good job with the Michael Stevens impression.
0 likesA well earned thumbs-up, although I am still in the camp that says season 9 was pretty great, too.
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Now that I think about it, Season 9 was the last season of the golden age. It may not be the biggest masterpiece but it felt like it was just a fun season to watch. You have episodes like The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, Treehouse of Horror VIII, The Cartridge Family, Realty Bites, Bart Carny, The Joy of Sect, Dumbbell Indemnity, Girly Edition and King of the Hill. These are just one of a few episodes of the season I found to be amazing. The season is also home to my biggest guilty pleasures like Miracle on Evergreen Terrace, The Last Temptation of Krust and The Trouble with Trillions. I also feel like the season still has some brilliant political commentary, some heart, great laughs, solid character writing and fantastic satire. Even if this season doesn't always have these traits as often as earlier seasons. They're still there consistently throughout Season 9. It's a season later when these traits slowly begin to deteriorate. In my opinion, Season 10 may have classic episodes like Mayored to the Mob and Mom and Pop Art but I have a hard time putting the entire season in the golden age
1 like@17:17 "Many Americans now experience disillusionment with the American Dream, believing that we are subject to the same kind of tyrannical oligarchy from which our forefathers originally fled. The only difference now is that we have run out of oceans to cross." goddayum those two sentences hit hard
21 likes"The engine of America is powered by turmoil."
10 likesI really like that man.
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Breaking news: Americans discover that they're also human and that we are all flawed
1 likeThat's television for you!
1 likeA show can either die a Reboot or live long enough to become the Simpsons.
This video is amazing. You should be very proud of yourself
3 likesgreat video, made me look at the simpsons in a whole new light
0 likesThe generation X explanation literally describes my parents perfectly, and I'm not even American (continent)
7 likesI'd always thought of him as a bit of a tribute to Michael Douglas's character in Falling Down.
1 likeStrangely enough, at around 33:00 I had the strongest urge to break down and cry.
0 likesonly the simpsons could jump the shark with one of the best episodes...all though some people will say the episode where they truly jumped the shark was when bart becomes a jockey
0 likesHaving recently rewatched some Alf episodes including one where he hits on Willie's daughter in front of him I think it was a poor choice to put it in that montage of shows that were conservative and sanitized. It was noticeably more edgy than anything else on TV in the mid 80s, until Married with Children hit in 87 which was the real combo breaker, not the Simpsons. The Simpsons just took what these other shows did and ran with it. Where Married is a mad cap parody, Simpsons is more a cynical deconstruction.
5 likesBy the way: Mission Hill is one of the most underrated and amazing shows people never paid attention to.
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That was my shit, way back in the golden years of AS.
1 like@Christopher St. Christopher Yeah bro, so many good memories man. Wish we could return to those days.
0 likesGrimes acts like homer is rolling in dough but many, many Simpsons plots and set pieces suggest that they are barely getting by. For me this just made Grimes seem petty and vindictive, a self defeating character so obsessed with what he is due that he repels success (an Elliot Rogers basically), which makes his end fitting. The 'older/younger self' take is interesting though, the corporate grind takes young hungry craftsmen and reduces them in the end to homers and grimes. Either you become so obsessed with success/status/control you can't attain that it drives you mad and bitter or you say 'fuck it' and in the words of Simpsons Merry Poppins "Just do a half assed job!"
1 like37:00 most think the Principal and Pauper is the jumping the shark episode, something so ridiculous as completely deconstructing a longtime character and saying "yeah everything about them is fake" was a huge punch in the gut to fans, all in a way to "surprise" people are they've already done so many other tricks and people know what's coming.
0 likesi dont get why this episode is so widely beloved. I dont particularly like it. But i do prefer the older episodes (i assume season 2 and 3).
0 likesThis video certainly makes a strong case, but i suspect I was a bit too young (and sadly didnt see the series in order only through reruns) to experience this. Born in 1995 for context. Wouldn't hav started watching until the early 2000s.
The use of the gran turismo backing music really pulled me in. Well done.
1 like“You die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
1 likethis video was absolute masterpiece. holy shit thank you so much for this video
3 likesWell, yeah, all the great writers left a long time ago, so...that's a no brainer
1 likeThe dynamic between Homer and Frank seems to parallel that of Spongebob and Squidward
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SpongeBob is a good worker tho
0 likesExtremely well done
0 likesEmpLemon needs to do a troll video for April Fools day like "there will never be another singer like Rick Astley".
0 likesThis has become a nostalgic episode it reminds me of a better time
0 likesI havent seen the simpsons in ages and remember this episode almost entirely.
0 likesI try to always live by the most philisophical of Home Simpson quotes, "I have 3 kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and 3 money?"
0 likesThe thing is that if. You see the Simpsons from newest to oldest then the show doesn’t Get worse and worse it gets better and better
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And then it’s kind ok at best at the very end. And it’s weird that Ned suddenly has his wife resurrected.
1 likeYour Never Ever series got me inspired to do a fan episode of it
0 likesI just want to state that the music in this video is outright awesome
0 likesExcellent video, I appreciate the effort of trying to pronounce "Laissez-faire", but it's a bit more like Lucifer in pronunciation
1 likeThe Bill Cosby zoom in was classic, summed up that era, responsible on the face of it but rotton to the core
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Are we really better off knowing the truth? Are we really okay knowing that rock bottom has a basement? Are we really better knowing that life can get so much worse, and there's absolutely nothing we can do to change that?
0 likesThat vsauce impression in the beginning is just perfect
0 likesThe first part is exactly like a vsauce video
2 likesThe "eye.... m d b" thing is exactly like something micheal would do
"William H Macy usually plays working class roles". Let me introduce you to the show Shameless. To be fair that's just one show. But that's what I know him the most for. (He plays an awful drunk, drug addicted, scheming dad)
0 likesThis is such a great video. I'll have to use an expression from my mother language, portuguese.
4 likes"Puta video foda!!"
Congrats man, thats amazing
to be fair there hasnt been a real simpsons episode since like season 12.
1 likeYour editing is SO. GOOD.
0 likesIn reality, they are yellow because at the time research had proven that yellow was eye-catching and they figured if the characters were yellow they would catch people's eyes as they flipped through channels. Then the comedy and drama would make them stay
0 likesLitterly number 1 of my favorite episodes
0 likesMy conclusion about 40 minutes of deep analysis about the Simpsons is: How fucking genius was, and is, the Gran Turismo 3 soundtrack.
0 likesI wonder how it would be if the Simpsons familly characters were reversés: homer is a intelligent, hardworking, a good dad
5 likesAnd bart : the rejected genius
Lisa be the actual bart personnality
Maggie being a boy
And marge being an alcoolic lazy obèse, and an absent parents
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I think that assessment really undersells homer’s character. He was never absent, he explicitly got a job that would allow him to be there for his family despite it compromising his dreams. He just struggles to relate to his kids. Lisa is a genius for her age and very politically focused while Homer is a layman who doesn’t put much thought into that stuff. Bart is a delinquent and a ball buster and Homer has a short fuse. He’s always willing to be there for his family. He just is very bad at getting to know them.
1 like@Neogears for marge i meant if she was like homer but you are right
0 likes18:55 best joke in the whole video
0 likesThe zoom in to Cosbey at 4:41 LOL.
1 likengl when of my favourite Simpsons moment is when after, Homer ask Grimes son how is father is and then he says he died in the most angry way, ive always loved that.
0 likesWell done video my guy 👌
1 likewhat I've never understood about Simpson's and family guy and I'm sure many others is why not make the characters age? sure at first you wanna keep the status quo at first but these shows have been going on for so long, they're a joke(not the funny kind) and at best background noise if they're watched at all, why not change things up?, imagine juxtaposing how Bart and Lisa would go through highschool/college/get jobs/raise a kid? you could inject new life into a show that's older than i am by simply aging characters
0 likesBro that cake scene...I felt that
0 likesAbsolutely helps the doomer personality
0 likesThis is one of the best video essays on youtube
1 likein a show free to poke fun at all things culture, religion, politics, and anything like that, they removed Apu because he was to "offensive" of a character, give me a f u c k i n g break
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to be fair apu wasn't that much of a recurring character in the show anyway, and if they'd removed him without making it public no one would've noticed
3 likesRusty looks like a de-aged John Hurt. Change my mind.
0 likesthat intro was so vsauce-esque i love it
0 likesI thought of a possible next video in the series: there will Never Ever be a guitarist like Eddie Van Halen! What ya think?
0 likes7:11 "It's remarkable just how different the simpsons was than anything else on television at the time. It was edgy, subversive counterculture..." cough cough Married with children cough cough.
0 likesThis video leaves out a key part to make him look a lot worse than he is. When he saves Homer’s life, Homer immediately blames him for the wall getting destroyed knowing that he’ll face serious consequences whereas Homer would just get a warning. RIGHT AFTER HE SAVED HIS LIFE.
1 like"BECAUSE I'M HOMER SIMPSO-"
0 likesdespair creepily entering
I didn't expect GT4 menu songs to fit so well in a narrarion
0 likesSimpsons beat Cosby, something even the American judicial system can't even do
0 likesSome days I'm Frank, some days I'm Homer.
0 likesLoved this video.
1 likeI could care less if some guy on the internet tells me the Simpsons aren’t funny I love it and that’s enough
3 likesIts so weird seeing them all not be green in a video of yours.
0 likesMe sometimes: Emple-mon
0 likesEveryone crying to me: Emp-lemon!
3:17 is that TF2 sniper theme mate?
5 likesOld-school Simpsons: Owned by FOX... constantly trashing FOX (And Disney)
1 likeNew Simpsons: Sold by FOX... now worshipping Disney
If Disney had any respect for the Simpsons, they'd DEMAND that the Simpsons regularly trash Disney. The Simpsons is the original Punk-Rock, and Disney is the oldest establishment media still standing. There's no way they should be allied!
If Disney wanted ownership so badly for their streaming service, fine... but you've got to do SOMETHING to promote the anti-establishment identity of the property. That's literally the show's number 1 defining characteristic.
If Disney wanted to do right by the Simpsons, they would Make Disney their new Burns. Hell, I'm pretty sure most Simpsons fans would actually RESPECT the gesture of Disney allowing itself to be the villian in one of its biggest properties... and it would CERTAINLY make for a more watchable program and punctuate the transition to Disney ownership.
There will never be another YouTube channel like EmpLemon
0 likeswoah! wasn't expecting to hear Soft Machine in the soundtrack, nice!
0 likesHomer and Grimes were the original SpongeBob and Squidward
0 likesThis wouldn't be as good without that odyssey theme
0 likesThis analysis killed me man
0 likesI always thought the Simpsons were yellow because it was like a child's crayon coloring of a white person, since cartoons are usually aimed at children, but in a satirical way as the show was aimed at adults.
0 likesYeah but 32:12 is epic
1 likeYou said we all live in Springfield cause it represents America? I live in Canada so you’re wrong good sir
0 likesPigs tend to chew. I’d say he eats more like a duck
1 likeWell playing the lottery is not completely out of control
1 likeThis episode messed me up as a 10 year old in the 90s
0 likesGreat video!!
1 likethat grand tourismo 3 music in the back ground is hitting me in a deep place
0 likesYou're blowing manifest destiny?
0 likesI'm sure the rezzy folks will love it. Lol
I just kinda figured they were green to keep the copyright goblins away.
0 likesI got this video recommended just now
0 likesHow tf does youtube know I watched this episode a couple days ago
Talking about 32:50, Mediocrity. I feel like people are too invested in a show like this. Eventually stories have been told and there's nothing completely new to be written. I gave up on watching The Simpsons for it's plot a long time ago, and just enjoy watching it away. Even though shows get more stale and effortless, I still feel like watching it. Just like Family Guy, eventually you just watch it brainless with a pizza in your hand during dinner. Stop trying to get something back that ended a long time ago, just enjoy the fact it's still on tv and you can still enjoy it brainlessly. I still prefer these cartoons over shows like Modern Family of Friends
0 likesListening to the gran turismo 3 soundtrack music in the background just hit hard
0 likesgreat work
0 likesBart is indeed running this sucker into the ground.
0 likesThe virgin Frank Grimes vs the chad Homer
0 likesGen X had to watch the president resign in shame. Millennials and zoomers: "y'alls' presidents had shame?"
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We were very young then; we didn't pay attention to it.
0 likeslooks around so I guess I’m gonna be the one to say it?
0 likesGrimey died of Red Pill Rage
I like seasons 1-10 the best
0 likesTldw
0 likesBut came to say 41 minute video on a 20 mins episode, good work.
What’s the song that plays when he says “you’re what’s wrong with America”?
0 likesMaybe the fact that I never liked Homer to begin with was the reason I didn't care that much for the episode?
0 likes"Responsible and virtuous role models"
2 likes- Zooms in on Bill Cosby
Big oof.
Is using a parody of a parody of a comercial as a comercial genius or just decadent?
0 likesLOL cue the gran turismo franchise music. It makes for good bg music. Also, a dkc 3 gba remix. Wow, we have similar taste in videogames, haha. Nice video!
1 likeThe Simpsons had to exist. But they are also one of the worst monument to capitalism and greed destroying art and culture over time.
1 like11:35 DENTAL PLAN!!
1 likelove the magnum force music
0 likes'The name of this episode,is homers enemy' gran turismo music intensifies
0 likesGen x had it gold compared to gen z
0 likesBeing smart Can have down side but so dose being ignorant
1 likeStrange how Fox and the big 3 broadcasters kinda swapped roles...
0 likes07:36 Is that Conan right in front of bart?
0 likesI really appreciate when people use TF2 music
5 likesi cant believe that Richard Nixon caused the simpsons
0 likesHE SAID OREGON RIGHT!!!
0 likesDid you watch the whole thing? Wer in a club now.
0 likesHomer literally strangles his son every day
0 likesThis video is longer than the episode itself
0 likesgreat video essay!
0 likesYou should do a Never ever on Video game sequels Pokemon Gold and Silver
0 likesThere will never ever be another Mario Kart 64 player like Matthias Rustemeyer?
0 likesDo "There will never ever be another band like pink floyd".
0 likesWhat's the background music from about the 8 minute mark. Its so memorable yet I can't think where I know it from. A spongebob game?
0 likesI watched this whole thing, and wondered why they never mentioned the episode where grime’s son comes back for vengeance 🤷♀️
0 likeswonder what that outlier episode in season 27 is
0 likeslooks like 9th season to me. the only episode more boring than this is that of frank grimes jr (can't see it more than 1 minute)
0 likes"Simpsons did it"
0 likesGreat video
0 likesIt's the scott tenorman must die of simpsons
0 likesALRIGHT, FINE. I'LL WATCH IT, YOUTUBE. ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW?
0 likesHey you’re making us miss the contest
1 likeDidn't they say that Springfield is supposed to be in oregon?
0 likesCopying the Vsauce system was very nice, I don't know if a trust if you related those facts honestly but I love it.
0 likesAll the footage should be green.
0 likeswow rusty cage referenced the knife game song but not WGFD that is his magnum opus
0 likesJesus man, you've gotten huge since your ytp days haha. And the quality has gotten insane. Keep up the good work, and you deserve every bit of success that comes your way
4 likesman, the simpsons had always prediction over the years. this episode prove a point. it seems now and says everyone can be rich and famous without any talent or much skills, or work hard.
6 likesGroening is a boomer
0 likesi really fucking hate ads but that skit at the end was great
0 likesI binge watched the entire Never Ever series last night, and now I see this??? You spoil us Emp <3
6 likesReject society, return to monke
1 likeIt's Not bad to be one or the other or either but it's great to be both
0 likesI think this guy loves ps2 gran turismo
0 likesMe too :D
This episode haunted me to the point that I could never enjoy the character of Homer Simpson again.
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The last scene made me uncomfortable to say the least. The show should have ended in that season and spare us the ninth with its "The Pauper and the Principal".
19 likesFrank Grime killed himself and Homer Simpson, but brought new life to both.
0 likesI thought it was really funny as a kid lol, still had a laugh after rewatching the episode after this video
2 likes“I’m better than okay, because I’m Homer Simpson!” - Frank ‘Grimey’ Grimes
25 likesMarge, change the channel
0 likesHyped. Homers enemy has been analyzed to the core. Let's see if the emp can bring something to the scene
3 likesA brilliant analysis of a great episode - it's true it's one of those that I always remember.
7 likesYou know, I thought this might be an interesting video to watch, its too bad the focus of the video is not so much the episode but... literally everything about the simpsons. I am 6 1/2 minutes in and hes talking about gen x, like wtf why would i watch this crap for 41 minutes. too long buddy
0 likesShould have terminated the show at the 10 year mark.
0 likesWhen I saw a "Never Ever" I dropped everything I was doing to watch it
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I fucking love that series
0 likesI got distracted vibing to TF2 music
2 likesDankmus: think unsexy thoughts
0 likesan insanely insightful commentary on the simpsons, and also, america! grimes proves that anyone who calls out the simpsons reality will be killed on sight.
7 likesEmpLemon Homer: Heart of Gold
65 likesObjective Homer: Routinely strangling son
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Well, no one said anything about hands.
0 likesClicked this one like my life depended on it, fuck yeah Homer's Green Enemy
71 likesThe Waltons sucked...change my mind.
0 likesThere was a also a follow up episode in the later years where the son of Frank Grimes tries to kill Homer.. but it wasn't as memorable
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yea it was like trying to revive an old joke everyone has heard hundreds of times already
3 likesThe joke could have worked had they implemented the son more thoroughly into the episode...
0 likesHe appeared like a combined total of 2 minutes and then he was gone ...
Something that did not help is that they kept on coming back to Frank Grimes's tumb stone but we never got to see the son ever again...
Mans literally made a documentary about a Simpson episode lmao
1 likeNew emplemon wake da whole house up
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Yay, another veri-
66 likesYou know what, I don't know if you guys think you're quirky or funny when you make these comments, but if you do, just remember:
YOURE NOT.
@tHEChannel fr I don't give a rat's ass about verified accounts they just commenting for attention
12 likesHey Vaporwave enthusiast.
29 likesCheckmark? Better like the comment even though their content has nothing to do with the topic of the video at hand!
25 likes-every mindless 12 year old drone ever
@w4str | haze archive I don't have a problem with that. My problem is with the comment. Stop cherrypicking nonexistant info.
2 likesEdit: I just looked over my comment, and I forgot to add in "when you make these comments" to my top reply. That prolly resulted in some confusion.
Oh pad I didn't know you were a emp fan!!!
14 likesNice
1 like@NickThePringle salty
13 likesWoah pad I didnt expect to see you here!
11 likes@tHEChannel yeah imagine people with 100k subs being normal like everyone else and enjoying content.
24 likes@NickThePringle I don't think you realise youtubers are people as well, pad comments often, before and after being verified.
19 likes@tHEChannel I mean he's just commenting
11 likes@KM did I say they can't enjoy content? Did I say they cant be normal? No. My problem, as I stated above, is with these generic, like begging, redditor-esque comments verified channels make. If he left some comment like "hey man, great video as usual" when the vid got posted 2 minutes ago, then hes lying, sure, but at least it's not unfunny. Generic, sure, but its not the unfunny type of generic. That, I would be fine with. This, I'm not fine with.
1 likeHi pad
3 likesLove your videos on Vaporwave Music too.
3 likes@w4str | haze archive huh?
0 likesas you should
0 likesLove you pad, this comments reply’s are hilarious
3 likes@SOAK ok. Explain your reason.
0 likes@tHEChannel i can understand if all of the comments weren't about the video but this one is not a big deal. as corny as it is.
0 likes@Moist Marsupial emp's also included, he loved the comment lol
3 likesI see you're a man of culture too Pad ^_^
0 likesIsn't pad just the vaporwave emplemon? They even have the same sounding voice.
3 likesYou don’t need to tell me thrice.
0 likesDid you notice that he put some esprit in the background?
0 likes@tHEChannel you acting like every comment gotta be this highly thought out funny groundbreaking statements that you find funny, the world doesn’t revolve around making you laugh bro
9 likes@Jason when did I say that
0 likesi basically did >.<
0 likesDidnt expect vaporwave man here but hey whats up
2 likesAh another man of culture
0 likesAYO MA ! IS FRANK GRIMES ON DA CITRUS SQUID MAN SHOW !
0 likesItalian finger thing
Let's make YouTube look a lot more like Pad and Emp, and a lot less like Jimmy Kimmel!
1 likethere will Never Ever be another genre of music like vaporwave video featuring Pad confirmed?
1 likeStop hating on Pad guys
2 likes@netizen cope
0 likes@netizen cope
0 likes@Sponge cope
0 likes@Sponge cope
0 likesWhere did the old emp go?
0 likesIt do be like that
0 likes“Now Pad, I don’t wanna alarm you but...”
0 likeswoah!! good to see you here, Pad
0 likesdamn everyone lets it slide when unverified accounts make this joke but the moment a verified channel dares to do what everyone else does it's evil cause they have a checkmark
6 likesLol
0 likesSo wait, a video about the Simpsons turns into a deconstructionist of modern Politics, History, Problems and Solutions, and the conceivable idea of Freedom
0 likesBruh guys just chill not like it’s hurting you guys and everybody has opinions and we may not agree with them but doesn’t mean we should revoke their right to speak
0 likes@tHEChannel are you seriously gatekeeping commenting on a video right now
2 likesThat's basically what I said on his tweet about this new video. Babe wake up new EmpLemon vid.
0 likesLol it’s my boi Pad Chennington.
0 likesI'm shocked to see you here, pad
0 likesOn baby
0 likes@NickThePringle Sheesh what's wrong with you? I know this dude, it's clearly by passion that he watches stuff like that (having talked about lots of underground musical stuff). can't he have the right to watch and enjoy something like the rest of us. I actually watches his videos, that verified mark is 100% worthy.
1 likeWelcome everyone to... “what started a comment war now!” Where we look at seemingly normal comments and dig deeper to see the people that love to hate! Weather it’s hating the comment, hating the haters, or hating the hater haters, or even hating the the hater hating haters on the haters! We’ve got all the haters!
1 likeCool seeing other creators you watch supporting each other!
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesOhshititsmusicman
0 likesNew Never ever episode wake the whole planet up
0 likesHello, person who invites guests on his channel and doesn't disclose that they are heavily involved with the source material for some reason.
0 likesVERIFIED?!?! WAAAAAAAAAAH! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!
0 likesit's a lemon party up in here yo!
0 likesEmplemon? Is that a new Digimon?
0 likesI woke up merge and the kids
0 likesWhy are emplemons viewers so toxic. Every video he makes has a theme of enjoying something while it's there. If you listened to him you would realize that yelling at one guy will hurt him and nothing else. Stop spending your time hurting others and enjoy the good in the world
0 likes@kiwi toothpaste it was just some loser getting mad over a checkmark appearing in the comments like it's a big deal, too many of those in others sadly
0 likes@NickThePringle you must not know who pad is bro
0 likesLove you, mate.
0 likes"You leach off hardworking men" except almost everybody in Springfield leach off of Homer like Moe, Apu, Burns, Krusty, Wiggum etc.
65 likesEven his family technically did the same thing and they have done nothing but give headache after headache for him and yet Homer continues forward because he loves his family.
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ultimately grimes biggest flaw was his inability to see the nuance of the simpsons, he only had a suraface level viewof homer's life
0 likes@Sara Fontanini If only he knew what Springfieldians really are.
0 likes@Sara Fontanini grimes biggest flaw was putting the blame on homer, rather than the system. the episode (unintentionally) serves as a cautionary tale about how not to work, as frank performs backbreaking labour in the efforts to become rich, while never achieving this goal, homer retains his dignity as a worker by not buying into frank's "cult of work" and spending his time enjoying himself while making more than he needs to survive.
4 likesAs a jaded 20-something living in one of the most expensive cities on Earth, I really needed a video like this to remind me that wealth isn't everything. Thanks, Emp.
3 likesD A N K M U S
0 likesI feel like I've just watched a classic youtube documentary. Like one of those vids that you come back to years later to reminisce on because the writing and research was just that good.
10 likesThe Simpsons were so fascinating and interesting at the beginning because they were so different, nowadays its nothing special anymore because we all became the Simpsons.
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Once we became the Simpsons.The Simpsons became the waltons
24 likesSo the people screwed over the simpsons...and the people are trying to deflect the blame by blaming the simpsons...got it
0 likesIt was good show, what a rotten way to die
5 likes@Terence lip smack
2 likes@Terenceyou either die a hero like futurama or live long enough to see yourself become a corporate sell out 😳
1 like@Majin Vegeta facts
1 like@Majin Vegeta Bender's Big Score has a good message, but the only character i like is Amy Wong.
0 likesI feel like Frank Grimes draws parallels to Squidward. And Homer to SpongeBob.
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Never Ever S1 E1
1 likeI think EmpLemon may be onto something...
I wonder if the writer staff at Spongebob Squarepants ever watches that Simpsons episode and inspired by it?
1 like"I feel like these 2 characters that have similar mindsets are similar in some way"
2 likesExcept Squidward THINKS he has talent. Frank Grimes HAS talent. So does spongebob, actually, at least in what he loves to do.
2 likesI'm drunk and I apologize if I'm talking out of my ass, but after watching this video, I think it's very interesting that your youtube career took a turn upon parodying the Homer's Enemy episode. You said in this video that Grimes represents the traditional American dream, while Homer represents the modern idea of exploiting the system and achieving the dream. I imagine that you, Emp, were also on the cusp of making a decision between those two ideals. Like you said in your Frying Comments video, you had the option to go to school and work a 9-5 job or continue to make youtube content as a career. And nowadays children are all looking up to youtubers and trying to become famous rather than pursuing that traditional American ideal. You decided to make Youtube more than just a hobby for yourself and from my perspective have benefited, though I guess only you can make that ultimate decision. It's just fitting that you started your own path to achieving the modern American dream by parodying an episode that tackles the same topic, and I think that you're one of the best people to analyze this episode based on your experience. Loved the video.
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@Flaken Mask he got a point tho
4 likesSeason 8 ended on May 18, 1997. Someone born the day after will be turning 24 years old next month. From infant to adulthood without a single good season of The Simpsons in their lifetime. Amazing.
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But they have Spngebob during that time
55 likesBut at least they got to watch the older seasons as reruns
20 likes@Eugene Arduno But the "golden age" of that show ended, when they were only about 6-7 y/o in 2004.
22 likesTrue I was born in 97 but still watched golden age simpson reruns and there’s Futurama just as good after it ended and prime spongebob
14 likesI was born in 1999 and love this show so much. Sure there is SpongeBob but man going home at 4pm as a kid was the best part of my day for a while.
10 likesI was born in 2003, but I still happily go back and watch the quality television I missed. Sure, perhaps the newest airing episodes have always been mediocre, but my favourites when I was younger were always the reruns of old seasons. Yes, I missed out on the episodes when they were new, but I still enjoyed watching them for the first time, even if I was a bit late to the party. This applies to The Simpsons, SpongeBob, and a number of other shows that simply lost their quality to the sands of time, and of course greedy executives who refuse to let them die with integrity.
2 likesHey what's up.
1 likeYeah when I was a kid I only ever saw reruns of season 1-8 (we don't get Fox channels in my country).
I always got super exited on the odd occasion they showed new episode only to be supremely disappointed by the episode itself.
I've heard that 9 is pretty good despite its flaws
5 likesOh please shut up with that, as if the Simpsons were lame after season 8, come on season 9 and 10 got plenty of great episodes. The show changed by the years but it remained funnier and more clever than most shows on tv.
4 likesSeason 8 ended at the same time that the millennial generation did, gen z was all completely born without quality Simpsons
5 likesseason 9 and 10 are good mostly
1 likeSeason 8 wasn’t that good either
0 likes@CopperGuide no season 8 has tons of great episodes including this one
0 likesWith no disrespect this is just a flawed comment to me. While I always agreed that Season 8 was the end of the Golden Age of the show it's not like there aren't still great episode's scattered about over the next few years. I mean "Das Bus" was season 9 and it's one of my personal all time favorite episode's. Maybe it's just me idk
7 likesBut does it matter? I was born after that date and still enjoyed all the good seasons on DVD (and don't forget Hit and run!).
1 likeI suppose it's unfair though. I too have had thoughts about people being born from "impossible years" now being as old as I was when I began to suspect that my life had peaked some time before and that the downward spiral had sworn me in. (It's all OK now tho)
It must just be human nature. It must just be like our parents (or grandparents) talking about people being born after The Beatles ...but we know nothing about that band, right?
There were a few.
0 likesSeason 9 is great
1 likeI just turned 12 when I began to watch the Simpsons in 2006 and I noticed the difference between seasons 1-13 and the modern ones. And I preferred the ones before 13. But hey, the important is that I was the right age to enjoy the Simpsons through and through.
2 likesAlthough as a small kid in the '90s I remember that whenever the Simpsons were on, they'd usually show something that would stick into my mind. Like the Halloween episode where Homer becomes 3D. God, what a trip that was.
I feel like Season 9 had some good episodes (The City of New York vs Homer Simpson, Lisa's Sax) but they would be so young when they aired they wouldn't remember them.
0 likes@NoahGMD hmmm... arguable...
0 likesSeason 9 is my favourite and I was born no more than 1 day before the first episode of that season.
My birthday is June 10th, 1997 -- errie.
0 likesI was born 2000 and started watching it daily when I was about 7-8 years old for years xD
0 likesIt was my standard evening series and I never noticed the "newer" episodes were more "bad" at the time. Personally I like the episodes after 2004 too, maybe because I grew up with all episodes.
People that speaks this way is so crazy. Because there were countless amazing seasons and episodes clear until season 20. That's the one that sucked. I haven't seen any other seasons beyond 20.
0 likesDude what music is this playing throughout?
0 likesI've always hated that "life is unfair" philosophy. Life is entirely fair. It's fair because it's random and chaos. It is only unfair from an extremely selfish perspective.
9 likesI got a 4 mm kidney stone last month. It was either going to happen or it wasn't. Fair.
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I've come to notice that when people say things like "life isn't fair," or, "that's just life," it's usually in regards to a decision that one PERSON made which affects another person in a way that they don't like. Example: I had a coworker who noticed that she'd been scheduled for eight days in a row with no day off. She had expressed to the manager that she wasn't happy with this and that she had been looking forward to spending time at home with her new puppy, to which the manager told her "that's life."
5 likesNo. That's BULLSHIT. It's a part of human narcissism (HUGELY a symptom of the human condition) to take one's "authority" and put it on the same level of fate, destiny, life, what have you. This sort of overarching mentality of "the system" or "standard procedure" or whatever... this idea that a structured system can be put into play by enough people that it absolves incidents and occurrences of any and all accountability. Its why people are okay with the death penalty. It's why people accept war/military activity. It happened to us just this past year. "2020 did this to us" or "Covid did this to us" is a lazy way of accepting horrible things that are done to us. Neither 2020 nor Covid took away concerts/live events. Those decisions were made FOR us. I'm not debating the necessity of it, I'm just calling it what it is. We're worshipping abstract ideas and conceptual things as if they are sentient beings. As if they are omnipotent gods. It's the modern-day equivalent of sacrificing a firstborn to keep a volcano from erupting. Then again, this world is heavily populated by people who will blame anything and everything on "Mercury being in retrograde."
I guess I'm just trying to say that life itself is fair. You live, you die. You get sick or you don't. Some have more and some have less. Some work harder, some don't.
But things that are done to us by other people, ESPECIALLY what's done to us under the guise of a faultless and blameless system, is highly unfair.
Well you most certtainly are getting there. A true Son of Ur.
0 likesAll against all in some wierd manner of twisted chaos.
After all, I am thankfull for all the pain and harm inflicted upon me. I do not seek revenge or anything but it has opened my eyes wide. I would not change a single thing.
My skin turned green one day
0 likesAll of us live in Springfield.. nice
0 likesReject modernity
0 likesReturn to homie
It is Gran Turismo 4 menu music playing throughout, isn’t it?
0 likesl find really amazing how you talk about every aspect of the episode except the most ovbious fact. That Frank Grimes worked hard and studied his entire life while homer was out there living it. l think that is the most important message from the story
4 likesDamn that tf2 music
0 likesYou have single-handedly made me want to watch the first 8 seasons, and I have never seen any of the Simpsons.
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1-2 is very 1980s. 3-8 is the golden age. You'll probably stop somewhere between 9-12. Have fun!
4 likes"Laisser-faire" is pronounced LESS āˈfer 18:55
1 likeNot Laz āˈfer
I thought it you were speaking German or Latin maybe.
Is that tf2 music I hear
1 likeit was a pretty confronting episode, but I guess it was designed to deliberately confront the idea of homer. Sometimes writers come to work and hate their job, and thats a method of generating creative energy.
13 likesBro i thought they were green cuz of copyrighted idfk man
1 likeHe's also one of the few citizens of Springfield that has eyebrows...
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Holy shit I never realized that most Simpson characters don't have eyebrows
7 likes@Raymunator I can only remember the Drs., The Milhouse Family and this guy
3 likes@The Artisan Luanne doesn't have eyebrows though, that's why the Van Houtens were late to the party.
2 likes@Steve of the Dead emphasis on "f e w"
3 likesSmithers has em
1 like@Ingvar Brasstax emphasis on "few"
2 likesthe simpson’s are green because of copyright
0 likesThis should be sent to the Simpsons team with a note attached "Remember what made you great."
3 likesi always felt bad for that guy for dying in the end, as a kid that was one of the earliest times where i cringed at something in fiction that i thought was just, wrong.
5 likesLesss goo oregon!!!!!
0 likesPresident Bush 😂😂😂
0 likesDamn us in Wisconsin was like “bruh this name is so good. Let’s just name 5 towns that”
41 likes‘Figure head like Mickey Mouse or The Queen of England’ spits out tea in shock and disgust “JAMES! THE COLONIALS HAVE GONE TOO FAR AGAIN’”
10 likesidk... Simpsons still good for me
2 likesSeriously? 25:00 isn't that music from GT 3?
0 likes“The Simpsons are green”
108 likesme who’s colorblind: wot
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Wot
0 likesWow. I see that message 😅😏
0 likesAnyone knows music from 4:57?
0 likesI'm surprised you didn't mention Frank Grimes mentions in later episodes like the episode where his son tries to kill Homer
5 likesGosh darn!
0 likesNew EmpLemon video, time to drop everything and spend 40 minutes having my mind blown at the details behind something I never previously noticed!
3 likesNot everything that's good has to be revolutionary. The narrator makes it sound like the Simpsons invented and/or popularized a more cynical view of family life. In fact, "Married.. with Children", another FOX show, beat them to TV by two years, and arguably did it better and more cynically. On Simpsons, Lisa didn't sleep around, and Homer showed much less contempt for his wife than Al Bundy did.
3 likesNigga there will never be another episode like ANYTHING BETWEEN SEASON 3-12
0 likesCame in expecting humor and a good laugh
2 likesLeft with an actual life lesson
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It was like an acid trip... i left w a profound life changing experience 😏
0 likesThis episode was a Story of a good man driven to insanity and eventually death how the simpsons managed a to balance such a sad story with such hilarious comedy will always be a mystery
1 likeI've always thought Grimes was the most toxic character ever. Like just chill man, the system will never notice you despite how hard you push yourself. Why feeling the need to be the sharpest tool? Why wanting to be a tool?
7 likesGood work guy...very provacative. I remember when that episode aired brand new and I was blown away. I remember thinking...'people aren't gonna like this.
0 likesI argue that The Simpsons was fantastic from seasons 1-9, good from seasons 10-12, decent from seasons 13-14, the movie was great, and now it’s a big mixed bag of a show with good/bad episodes.
1 likeToo bad almost EVERY survey regarding the best Simpsons episode found online doesn’t have the Grimes episode as number one, let alone in the top 5.
1 likeAlthough im an Australian this show has always been a big part of my life ever since i could remember and it still is
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i'm aussie and i watch it too
0 likesthis is an incredible video man. you are an excellent creator and an inspired documentary maker, this fuckin rocks
0 likesFrank Grimes believed that putting your nose to the grindstone and never looking up would make him wealthy and happy.
2 likesHomer Simpson knew that all working harder did was make your boss richer, instead opting to game the system to get by financially and letting his actual life outside of work be his source of happiness.
Homer saw through the lies that Frank bought, and Frank resented Homer for it, because seeing Homer defy everything he believed shattered his view of reality and ultimately his sanity.
He hated the player.
He should have hated the game.
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Its something I try to tell my parents all the time. They are honest at every turn and about 90% of the time it bites them in the ass. I would literally steal a big screen TV from Walmart and not feel a hint of guilt, yet if I dont hold a door for someone I feel bad. The world is built to fuck you, you cannot beat the system.
0 likesThe internet was supposed to put the power of media in the hands of the people, mega corporations own more of the total entertainment than ever before.
You cant work your way up in a company, they dont even care if you do a good job. They want their own kind, a yes man, a person who makes them look good and maximizes their profits.
There is no morality in the face of billionaires. No crime against them holds any quandaries, no grey area. They are leeches that will eventually return society to nothing but slaves and slave owners through sheer economic power. I would watch public executions of anyone worth more than $100 million and feel joy
7:45 animation is not a genre. It's a medium.
20 likesSeason 8 has always been my favorite for many reasons... However I still like some of the newer episodes
3 likesMade me wanna rewatch the simpsons now
1 likethis video is seriously the best thing i have watched on youtube, amazing work
0 likesGood analysis vid! This taught me a lot, including that I HAVE to go watch the Simpsons!
0 likesI'm Scottish I'm 21 I've been raised with my own culture, English culture and American culture and can say Ithink what's wrong with America really boils down to the fact that you think you're superior to everyone else in the world but refuse to acknowledge that it just isn't true. It's why you almost elected a dictator and It's why your country is so divided just like England is and it's really down to the fact that just like our Empire yours is crumbling too and people don't want to admit it because that would mean admiting that America isn't the best which goes against everything you were raised to believe. The Simpsons was so revolutionary because it wasn't afraid to say yeah America we're fucked up too just like everyone else is. We're not perfect but that's ok because no one is and in a way they're a more realistic representation than any other family on TV because they acknowledge what's wrong with them
1 like18:51: “Homer embodies a totally opposite but equally American ideal, Laissez fare”
6 likesThe irony of using a French word to describe an American ideal. I suppose the French gave America the Statue of Liberty, so it all checks out.
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Well American and French ideals often traveled back and forth. Laissez Fare has been engraved in the American Psyche so much so that even the most collectivist of people can't comprehend the sheer ideal of being forced to do something for the greater good at the expense of what you wanted to do.
3 likes@Jerm70 Not true of collectivists. There are just very few collectivists in American society.
0 likesI see this all the time- this sense of fairness you refer to- it plays a huge role in political thinking in the United States. Ppl want to apply this one for one, tit for tat- type justice to every situation- it just gets way more complex and nuanced in reality though- nothing is ever that straight forward. The world we live in can not be broken down into black and white, wright and wrong- and therefore this childish sense of fairness really doesn't apply to a lot of situations. But- politicians know exactly how to appeal to it, and it works every time.
0 likesAzaria's Portrayal of Apu is the best voice work in the series.
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Now, the cancel culture deprives us of it for no reason other than "progressivism."
2 likesApu had some very deep character development.
0 likes"in a way everyone lives in springfield"
136 likesme, living in chile: woah
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Fua wn no esperaba encontrarme a un vecino acá.
4 likesSaludos desde argentina capo.
Es que los simpsons tuvieron muchísima influencia en latinoamerica también, lo cual es bastante curioso cuando te lo pones a pensar.
2 likes@MS Seh, de hecho tal vez hay una correlación entre latinoamericanos que aprenden ingles y los Simpsons, ya que es una serie alrededor de la cultura Norteamericana, dónde se habla inglés, y tiene un gran impacto cultural.
0 likes@MS el doblaje latino de los simpsons es superior a todos, incluido el original
0 likesThanks to this I know I watched enough Simpsons in my life. I don't need to watch all the seasons. I stopped watching in the middle of season 10 and I was probably bored sooner.
0 likes15:13 the music that starts playing needs to be part of the normal episode now
0 likesThis episode should’ve been the series finale
3 likesWhat a god, my guy made a 40 min video and waited to the end to do an ad, beautiful.
3 likesAlthough I agree withthe Philosophy of the episode, I still feel bad for Frank.
0 likesI would like to make a note that many people disregard.
0 likesWhile the quality has declined, it still remains popular because the benchmark was high to begin with.
People dont acknowledge that the quality is still above most other content on american tv.
frank snatching the bottle of acid from homers hands and throwing it and homers reaction was like an idiot getting wacked with a ball bat to knock some sense into him and he looks at you like he didnt even feel it. its very evident that homer doesnt learn from anything.
0 likesGrimes and Homer aren’t opposites though they are the 2 halfs of a truly successful person. You need to both work hard and bend the rules.
0 likesThis was such a beautiful video.
0 likesWhen I was a kiddo, my DVD player was messed up and made the Simpsons look green like that.
1 likeI guess Homer can be glad that there was no social media at that time in front of all twitter. Considering what some false allegations can do to a middle age yellow man.
0 likeswow this was deep. I never though much of that episode but i guess it was much different at the time it aired.
0 likesI've literally never realized you've recolored Simpson's clips you used. My colorblind ass... But now that I know that's just fuckin' golden! 😂😂
0 likes“But first, he had to enter hell.” Los Angeles, CA as a born Californian this was the funniest part of the video.
2 likesI still don't see what's wrong with simpsons later seasons. I actually like that it evolves with the times. It's pretty much why I kept watching it. I love that did character development with other Springfield residents. The family also less 80s sitcom more human. I do get concerned Disney might ruin it though coz were carrying fox so had creative freedom. Not sure if will have it with Disney.
0 likes31:51 I love how he teased the video
1 likeHas this guy watched the show and actually paid any attention? Homer IS the antagonist. That's why "the older generation" hated this episode. This episode marks the change from when it turned from a Tragic-Dramedy (which is almost impossible to write, I literally can't think of another one) into a slapstick comedy.
0 likes3: 27 "Matt Groening had to enter hell"
0 likesGoes to California
Makes sense too me
People all around the world Unite to rate everything a 7/10 that killed me 😂😂😂😂
0 likes“Seen by the human I…M D B”
0 likesThat shit SMOOTH
Gen X are my mentors. Great generation.
1 likeThis is my favorite episode of the simpsons, but you mislabeled GenX'ers like my self with Baby Boomers. I guess Millennials' can't tell the difference. With that said. Thanks for you're work on this video.
0 likesthis is prob one of the darkest Simpsons ever to exist.
0 likesI love that at 9:29 the Spinach Rag from Final Fantasy VI starts playing
0 likesyou either die a rebel, or live long enough to see yourself become the status-quo.
1 likeguy explained everything but the actual episode and people are ok whit it.
0 likes0:33 that clip right there nearly killed Emps channel.
0 likesThe chapter names out of context sound like an album's tracklist
1 likeI don’t know if you’re a sports fan. But we need another video about “why there will never be a championship like super bowl 52” like go over the patriots dynasty, the Carson wentz injury, the true comeback story of Nick foles, the back and forth game. And the underdog mentality of the never before champs the Philadelphia eagles.
0 likesDamn, I never thought a Simpsons analysis video could change my life, but here we are lol.
0 likesIt just made me realize I’ve been Frank Grimes my entire life. And it’s been very difficult. While I don’t necessarily wanna full on become Homer Simpson, I definitely could learn to take it easy sometimes.
Thanks for the great video. Really made me think.
watching 40 minutes of Rick and morty and the simpsons, yeah this is where I am rn
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Rick & morty blows the simpsons straight outta the water 😤
0 likesFrank Grimes - Squidward Tenticles
1 likeHomer Simpson - Spongebob Squarepants
"there comes a time in all of our lives that we want to go out and change the world but eventually, Life catches up to us" - a youtube pooper who just made a video reviewing the simpsons
0 likesHoly cow I just realized you used Gran Turismo 4 ost in the first minutes of your video, damn the childhood memories
0 likesThe Sniper theme on this vid was soo good you should use this track more often man !
1 likeI'm just here to witness another wonderful video by summoning salt....wait...oops, wrong channel 😁
1 like5:17 Funny how the 1970s seems to be looping back in on itself in the 2020s. Remind me again who was it that said the 2010s were like a modern re-enactment of the 1960s?
0 likesNever thought I’d hear the gran trurismo 3 menu music in a simpsons review, but here we are
0 likesThe music in this video is frankly superb
0 likesThis is one of the best videos on youtube
1 likeParts of this are scarily close to an Of Mice and Men essay
2 likes2:50
0 likesExcuse me. Springfield is, officially, in Vermont. Which is ironic, because Vermont is basically Canada.
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I was wondering if he realized this. I personally felt like that was the final betrayal of the show, the possibly longest running joke of never knowing where the town was
0 likes4:40 responsible and virtuous role models …. Bruh…
0 likesI hope that emp makes a video on etika. And how there will never ever be another creator like him.
0 likesAll I hear is “SIMPSON’S DID IT!”
0 likesok now you have to do a never ever episode on daft punk
2 likesSteamed Hams: Allow me to introduce myself
0 likesSadly it might not be Homer that's wrong with america. But Frank is wrong for America.
1 likeWhen Homer's lazy awful life style promotes him while Frank goes unappreciated. Then it's America that is wrong.
Cause no matter how well or much he does, the system he's in won't recognize him after the rules they both acknowledge. Cause one doesn't want to put in effort to acknowledge it.
In a life or death situation his efforts are well supported.
But in an office environment where profits go to his boss or in war where both sides loose. Then no amount of work will actually work.
And going against the system obviously means you see something unjust have been done. And if your work is appreciated and your ethics are aspired, then is the one you attack in the wrong?
He says Homer is what's wrong, but when lashing out and questioning everyone's attitude, then it's the system that's wrong. But he's also wrong for assuming america goes by the same standards he thinks they do or should. It's a sort of illusion of what is right when in reality the system wasn't made to be any of that.
So he's not right in demanding the system to be right, cause it was wrong for him in the first place. And the only way to get what he deserves is by learning their rules and abusing it.
Work gives security but manipulation reaps rewards.
Possible suggestion.
0 likesThere will never ever be a game like Team Fortress 2
but in "Lisa Needs Braces", Homer was very active instead of laissez faire
0 likesTook me a minute to adjust to the Gran Turismo music but dang does it actually work well
0 likesOh my god, that Bill Cosby joke fucking killed me
0 likesThis is one of those videos that I have to watch multiple times- and I still don’t fully understand them
2 likesI was about to say, but there are more good Simpsons seasons, then I saw that all the episodes I could mention were indeed part of the first 8 seasons, but well I don't remember watching the past 2013 and I just stopped using cable for over 5 years, I only have a cable box becuase my ISP is a cable company and they always bundle cable with their internet plans, but as The Simpsons, it's just a memento from a different time.
0 likesLooks like emp discovered how to use PowerPoint.
0 likesI’m not a big weeb , but can you do a never ever of evangelion ? I really wanna see your interpretation on it .
0 likesWell there are plenty of reasons to hate homer, but the question is wether hes redeemable, does hateing him fix any of his irresponseble attitudes?
0 likesMe after seeing a reference to Dankmus: I have seen enough, I'm satisfied.
1 likeHell Yes, Emp:)
0 likes(15:08) Andrew Ryan approves this message.
0 likes9:35 you’ll thank me later :)
0 likesfuckin love the gran turismo 3 soundtrack. fuckin love me simpsons. simple as
0 likesI think TF2 would make a pretty good subject for a never ever, especially with it's current state.
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Titanfall 2 or Team fortress 2
0 likesThis tought me why themes are implemented in writing
3 likes"...the show was animated, a genre ..."
0 likesNo.
i love the picture of the morrissey fans, emp.
1 likeTeen sitcoms are popular at times but not to be immortal
0 likesSimpsons: Self-irony the Show
0 likesThe bowling alley gag shows homers apathy
0 likes15:55 Does anyone know what clip this comes from?
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I want to say with Office Space or Parks and Rec, but I'm not entirely sure.
1 likeDamn this video is so good
0 likes6:37 ok if the simpsons were based on the the creators family including himself? That means that it should take place where he was born which means that it should take place in Springfield Oregon
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In the video, he says "The true location of the Simpson's home may forever remain an enigma," but it's literally based off of Springfield, OR, a town just South of where Matt Groening was born and raised, and Matt said so himself during an interview with the Smithsonian back in '12
2 likesFilm theory made an episode about it. He went through the geography and yh it's Springfield oregon usa
0 likesi agree but i do still like watching the simsons
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Me too .
0 likesIt's like in his finnaly part of his video he countradics everything he said .
Stay ignored
Don't stay ignored
Me
Can you make up your mind
If I stay ignored should I even care what a rich YouTubers opinion is about the Simpsons and why are they still going .
If they can come up with New ep should I care .
Grimes appeard one other time in a sideshow bob episode
0 likesOf course not, the Simpsons were are 1990's show. It have been over for decades. Don't confuse it with the Zombie Simpsons, or The Zimpzonz.
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I thought it was called the simps.
0 likesThe Vsauce bit was so good
0 likesThere will never ever be another movie like Ratatouille.
0 likes27:25 The more recent generation loves this episode? For which reason?
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Same reason why people love Squidward
0 likesA lot of kids grew up watching SpongeBob. They loved the jokes and wondered why Squidward didn't go with the flow. Then, they grew up and realized that life can be terrible. In that moment of clarity, they resonated with Squidward.
i love this
1 likeIdk how I feel about this
0 likesIn this day and age you sort of have to create your own American Dream because the traditional one was destroyed when we became a PC Society
0 likesReal location is Springfield Oregon. Film Theory solved it.
0 likesStill waiting for there will never ever be another movie monster like Godzilla
0 likesWoah!! I haven't seen this channel sense there was some spiral
1 likeI feel like one of the most famous cinematic moments is when Darth Vader tells Luke, "no, I am your father"
1 likeThere will never ever be another movie like Falling Down
0 likesNailed the vsauce intro
0 likes♫ I am so smart. I am so smart. S.M.R.T - I mean S.M.A.R.T. ♫
0 likesif you feel oppressed, it's really your own fault. Freedom isn't about getting what you want, but doing what you need to do in your own terms. You have the freedom to change jobs and move. IF you don't it's because you chose not to.
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Unless your a wage slave
0 likesYou keep saying "Homer is successful because..." as if there is any real way a guy like him could own a big house and 2 cars these days. Homer is successful because he's an imaginary cartoon who the animators wanted to draw in a big house. There is no lesson we could learn from him that applies to the real world.
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You completely missed the point
1 like@Salty Candy Stuff I disagreed with the point. Totally different. But hey, if you want to put forth a counter-argument I would totally hear you out, as it stands you have not done that at all.
0 likes@Will Menta Cartoons are exaggerated for a reason but it doesn't mean they can't be symbolically realistic. Homer is successful even though he doesn't "deserve" to. He barely works or does anything useful yet he is a lot more wealthy than any average American. Grimes however works as hard as he can and with as much effort as he could possibly put into his job but is not even close to Homer financially. This isn't just because it's a cartoon, it's symbolic of real life. You see this everywhere, where people who work much, much harder than others are less successful, while those who put barely any effort into their lives are living happily.
1 likeHowever Grimes looks at this disparity in wealth and his world-view is completely shattered. His entire life he worked thinking that if he works harder he'll be more happy. When seeing how Homer lived, this view completely derailed and he became jealous, frustrated, hopeless and angry at not only Homer but himself. When Grimes explains his living conditions to Homer, the only thing Homer does is see the advantages and the good in his lifestyle. This alone shows one thing that's completely different between Grimes and Homer.
This is literally symbolic of real world living conditions. The fact that this flew completely over your head shows that you either haven't paid attention how different people live or you simply didn't pay any attention to the video.
@Salty Candy Stuff Again, I understood that the first time. And I disagree. I don't think there is a single man in America who owns a 3-story home and supports 3 kids and a stay at home wife, and 2 cars and sleeps all day on the job. That was my point.
0 likesI GET that some people are lucky and succeed even though they are lazy. What I disagree with is the idea that there's any useful lesson to be learned from imitating Homer. You can't be lucky on purpose.
@Will Menta It's not a lesson on luck, it's a lesson on contentment. Grimes loses his fucking mind when he sees how Homer lives and instead of simply being content with what currently he has or take advice from Homer he simply hates him for it, when he has nothing to do with it.
1 likeHow are you missing this point? I'm baffled that you can't understand this
@Salty Candy Stuff First, you are kinda shifting your argument away from my original point. I was disagreeing with when the video said Homer was successful for certain reasons, not that he was happy for certain reasons. I was, and always have been, addressing the point about Homer having a big house, 2 cars etc... That's what Grimes was mad about, I'm simply saying that's unrealistic. I have said it again and again. How do you keep missing the point? I am baffled that you can't understand this.
0 likes2nd, even if you are trying to make Homer out to be some kind of Buddha role-model for contentment, it's still JUST A CARTOON, I argue that you're simply not going to learn anything useful from Homer Simpson, nothing about him is realistic. I GET that you think it's a good lesson, and I disagree. I don't miss the point, I disagree with it.
How do you keep missing that point? I'm baffled you can't understand this.
@Will Menta The fact that you keep undermining the message of the episode by saying that it's a cartoon is extremely sad and disappointing.
2 likesIf you value the message of art by simply seeing what form it is in then you are never worth my time discussing the simplistic values of an art piece.
You have wasted my time by completely failing to understand a point that is laid in front of you three times and it is almost like you are deliberately attempting to completely misunderstand everything said to you.
I'm done with this. You seriously need to broaden your basic scope of artistic appreciation rather than devaluing a message by constantly saying "It's a cartoon" because it just makes you look like a buffoon.
@Salty Candy Stuff Oh my god! I've disappointed you? Noooooooo! Please say you forgive me! I can never live with myself knowing some random person on the internet is disappointed with me. Please! Please! I take it all back! I'm so sorry I had an opinion about a cartoon show that was different than yours!
0 likesGreat video
0 likesOh my GAWD! Overload of nerd facts, I can't fucking watch this.
0 likesOr future ep where frank grumes jr out jail seeks revenge
0 likeslol when you are colorblind and didnt even notice
0 likesI like most post season 8 episodes
0 likesThis sounds like anakin skywalkee
0 likes20:40 RIDE THE TIGER
0 likesYou know,
6 likesWatching Emp Lemon's YTPs and seeing the usage of the Green Simpsons thing, I should've expected a Simpsons video
But I thought it was gonna be even longer to see a video like this
One of the best episodes
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All of the episodes are the best in my opinion
0 likesHomer's enemy would be in the bottom half of attack on titan episodes on IMDB.
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@Pròchazka So weird to do that. Whats even the point of just hucking your opinions into the wind? Why do this if not to be involved in some kind of discourse? The dude think his ideas are so important that reading them will make the world a better place?
0 likes@Skeets McGrew why don't you do yourself a favor and actually watch Attack on Titan before talking shit on it. I know I'm late in replying I don't really care...
0 likes4:15 If you listen to his voice as Australian, he says, "This, is fucked!"
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I'm a Londoner and i hear it too 😂😂
12 likesHoly shit you're so right
8 likesLol I hear it
3 likesKiwi here, I can hear it too 🤣
6 likesyou sick fox, enjoy Mike Hunt.
5 likesAs a Australian, can confirm.
1 likeDecember 17, 1989:
72 likes“Why are the Simpsons green?” - the world
February 26, 2031
“Why are the Simpsons yellow ?” -EmpLemon
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Wow 2031 sure is a crazy year
15 likes@Water can’t wait to see what happens
1 likeman YouTube has had its ups and downs, but the fact that I can watch such high quality content for free is quite amazing.
3 likeskeep up the great work man
Is that Gran Turismo music playing in the background?
0 likes"Be complacent" is the message of Homer's character. Groening was a freemason 12:08 Simpsons is whack
7 likesFinally simpsons emplemin recognition, this is BIG
15 likesWe all see ourselves as the victim sometimes, but Grimes sees himself as the victim all the time.
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Murica
0 likesHe probably just doesn't like lobster.
2 likesHe IS the victim though. He is completely right in his critiques of the unfairness of his position. However, much like the majority of the working class of today, he buys in to the competitive nature of the workplace. He believes that another working class person was the problem, not quite understanding that the real issue was with the owning class (burns).
2 likes@Declan Jones Homer isn't working class though, he's firmly a part of the middle class, owning a home with a wife and three kids being supported on a single income, meanwhile Grimey lived in a single bed apartment. Homer may not be "the" problem, but he was definitely a part of it, after all his lethargy places his responsibilities on his lessers rather than his superiors, and his complacencies lead to the unjust treatment of those below him, he benefits enough from the status quo to not wish to challenge it.
2 likes@You Squidding Me? I'm not a socialist
0 likes"responsible and relatable role models"
165 likeszooms in on Bill Cosby's face
my sides have achieved orbit, thank you very much.
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I noticed that, too [chuckle]
2 likesI don't get it.
0 likes@Darinae Bill Cosby = role model? Think about it....
2 likes@chaallus That Disney movie where he played the devil was a stealth confession.
0 likes@Attmay RIGHT? LOL
0 likesAm I the only one that recognises the music from GT3?
0 likesThis video takes 14 minutes to even grace over the f'n point! The episode itself was 23 minutes and this video was 41 !!!!!
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Ok and?
1 likeThen why did u even watch it
0 likes@Neal Patel , sheer boredom. The alternative was the Olympics. =)
0 likesI like how an episode that makes you hate the main character would usually just be labeled "tone deaf" or something but instead you said no, art.
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What, you didn’t want to have Homer’s semi-charmed kind of life? Homer simply mastered the subtle science & exactly art of falling & missing the ground (not unlike the way Arthur Dent learned to fly in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy).
0 likesJust don’t overthink it.
0 likes"They witnessed the mighty and unbeatable US Military get humiliated through a fiasco in some part of the world most of them can't even find on the map"
114 likesDAMN
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What?
1 like@Odin Sørensen The Vietnam War.
1 like@Tyler Sane ...and how were they humiliated during the 60s?
1 like@Aqua Lantern Yeah, I got that. I'm not replying to EmpLemon, I'm replying to your comment. What's so significant about that part of the video? You say "DAMN" like it's a big deal.
4 likes@You Squidding Me? Eh... To my limited knowledge the Vietcong were better at holding onto territory and waging active war.
2 likesPeople seem to think the US lost or pulled out from vietnam because they couldn't physically win, the reality of the situation is that you can't fight a long war without the public and the medias support and since the US had neither the war ended.
10 likes@You Squidding Me? The difference is that the middle east is being fought for a combination of oil, border lines and poppy fields. Vietnam was fought because of it being perceived as a communist threat.
6 likes@1810Jeff What people? Everybody I talk to about it knows the US lost because they didn't possess the political and social will and determination to win.
1 like@Odin Sørensen Yes that is what I'm saying, I'm talking about how people act like the US lost because they were being beaten on the military level
0 likes@1810Jeff And I'm asking "which people"? Can you describe them in demographic terms or something more personal? Anything?
1 like@Odin Sørensen So you're asking which people believe the US pulled out of vietnam because they were losing the war militarily. I've heard a lot of people mock the US for "losing" the vietnam war saying things like how they couldn't beat people with decade old weapons and sticks. If you want an example the quote on the original comment says it all.
4 likes@Odin Sørensen And to my knowledge, it's mostly because the war was sinking in more money than it's worth and the outcry of the American people made Nixon get the troops out of the war. Now were the Vietcong strong? fuck no they were, they were a bunch of farms with USSR weapons, the Americans made new War Crimes just from how many of them we killed with Napalm and Grenade Launchers, the death ratio shows this.
0 likes@Nick Rustyson Yes, that is what I mean when I talk about the US' lack of "will": The *will*ingness to spend the sums and commit the kind of warcrimes that that war required to be won. The Vietcong on the other hand had the will to force the US into committing those warcrimes against their own people, just to make the US too queezy about the whole affair to keep fighting.
3 likesAnd that willpower allowed them - along with a number of other factors such as terrain - in the end to compensate for their inferior logistics and technology, and so they were actually the stronger combatant of that war. Results count.
@1810Jeff Afghanistan was invaded with the excuse of "the terrorist threat", Iraq was attacked with the excuse of "The WMD threat", Syria "The chemical weapons threat". There is always a manufactured threat to get the war machine going. Oh and big paychecks for military manufacturing corporations.
0 likes@1810Jeff Plus the same argument can be said about practically every overseas war. Like the British Empire could say "Oh the colonists didn't beat us military, we just didn't have the finance and support to send an even more huge force there to crush them!" At the end it's just a sore loser's response. the US lost the Vietnam war in the same way most wars are lost, and that includes on the battlefield.
2 likes@Nemo U Yes but I'm saying that Vietnam wasn't really fought over anything the US actually wanted like oil, poppy fields or territory control.
3 likes@Nemo U I can see where you are coming from but you are comparing apples to oranges, the british lost because it wasn't worth fighting long term because it took them months to send soldiers so they decided to cut their loses but if they could have taken it back they would have. The difference is that if the US wanted to it could have razed the whole country and been done with it, it was never a serious war if anything it was more of a virtue signal than a full on war which is why it had little support. Another difference is that the british empire didn't have to care about support because they weren't a republic that lived and died by it's populations opinions.
4 likesayo tf happened here
0 likesTwo other great episodes spring to mind: The one where Homer grows his hair back and becomes kind of successful and the one where Skinner lies to superintendent whatsisname about Aurora Borealis while the burgers in his kitchen turn into flames! Ah these memories
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Check out 'lisa and the iconoclast'
0 likesThey made nonce words 🤣 Cromulent and embiggen 🤣
Ah LA the hell I call home
0 likesi think this episode has a lot more to say about our current politics and class relations. renegade cut has a great video on it
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Such a great channel
0 likesback when family was a guy
0 likesWhat a tremendous explanation of the Simpsons as a show! Now I have an idea on why Simpsons became so influential, even though it was targeted towards a generation that has so little in common with mine. Academic Agent has covered Gen X in detail, but now I understand its culture a bit better.
4 likesAlso, I like how you included average SAT scores. They are a nice, subtle redpill.
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I also like how you learn exactly why the simpsons went down hill & dropped drastically in quality.👍
1 likeMAN Mission Hill was so good. This show gets slept on so hard, you owe it a watch if you've never seen it.
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its written by bill and josh two writers/showrunners from seasons 3-8 of simpsons
1 likeWhy is he's green?
0 likesis that the sniper theme
0 likes"there will Never Ever be another videogame like Bully"
54 likesLet's make it happen people.
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oh my god i forgot about that game lol but its so good
0 likesYou spent 41 minutes saying nothing. Why?
0 likesThe SAT scores based by race is cringe. The obvious reason for the lower scores on kids of color is poorer education in areas with those children.
1 likeDid no one else get the Vsauce channel reference? lol!
0 likesAre you actually using GT4 menu music?
0 likesSo what you're saying is... Frank was so obsessed with reality that he became consumed with the ideal of "fairness", whereas Homer is so idealistic that he's able to decide his own reality
3 likeswhy don't most people get this 20:40
0 likesThis episode redefined the phrase "Downward Spiral".
5 likeswhy tf does this have mario odyssey music in it???
0 likesdid not expect rusty cage to be here.
0 likes15:08 was the best part of the whole video.
3 likesThe people making the show will die
0 likesMatt Groening... Matt Grayning... huh
0 likesanother amazing video
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3 likesApandah making another ironic meme video for 2 year olds
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0 likes@Grammar Police Reject 1.9k now. Noice.
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0 likesNo seriously why are you here
0 likes@Jery Why are we here
0 likesThere should be, there will never ever be an F1 driver like Gilles Villeneuve.
0 likesall these 5 paragraph essays looking for attention and emplemon likes a comment simply thanking him for the video. now if thats not meta i dont know what is
0 likesI never considered "Second Death", the last time someone will ever speak your name... Damn lol
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Have you seen Coco?
5 likes@Paul Webb I haven't
0 likes@Paul Webb Have you been to space?
2 likesHave you heard glorious by macklemore?
0 likesI think Springfield is in Oregon
0 likesNever ever will there be another halfway decent Simpsons episode again. It's woke garbage now. Time to cancel this.
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Trueeee...the simpsons should have ended like 20 years ago😞
1 like@Majin Vegeta I agree. I love those characters. Been watching them since their first season. It was funny. Sometimes sentimental even if rarer. There isn't too many shows that has imperfect parents. Homer as much as he doesn't succeed often he never stops trying when he's aware he's doing something wrong or something that could be done better. Marge is a great wife in the show and together they are one of the best husband and wife characters out there. Every character has their faults. For many years it was everyday relatable things among the cartoon antics. They are no longer relatable as they've been stripped of what they once were.
1 like@Majin Vegeta I'm a Beavis and Butt-Head fan. The ended when they should have. They tried a revival and I won't fault Mike Judge for that. I think he wanted to try bringing back entertainment where it should be. But Beavis and Butt-Head would never be allowed to be what they were once.
1 like@Wraith Ranger From Beyond yeah broski im glad im not the only one who noticed, they really changed the whole vibe & dynamic of the show once corporate took over..
0 likes@Wraith Ranger From Beyond all good things must come to an end & thats why im grateful futurama ended when it did, on a high note 👌
0 likesGreen Simpsons sounds like some sort of low budget environmentalist parody of The Simpsons.
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Low budget you mean high budget
0 likes@sethisevilone02 shrug
1 likeThis guy kinda sounds like @JonSolo
0 likes>Banksy
3 likesAs in the underground artist who has now become mainstream and corporate?
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HA!
0 likesTruth is that we will never have Simpsons series as good as the old ones.
3 likesAnd this episode is far, FAR from being the "darkest" in the simpsons history. in the first 2/3 series there were dakers epsiodes than that
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Im with you broski 100% i cant watch any episodes after 1999. You can really feel the drop in quality as the episodes go on 😳
0 likes"Tomorrow you could win the lottery then die from a lightening strike." makes me think of that song "Ironic" by Alanis Morissette.
0 likes14:07 looool
0 likesHOLY MACARONI
0 likesI think the next Never Ever should be on Team Fortress 2, it's honestly the most unique game in the entire "hero shooter" genre, or class shooter if you're a human. and considering you've said it's your most played, it seems fitting.
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@gunner Richthofen cs community is hot garbage, also not even the same category. not to mention tf2 is timeless, literally hitting all time highs by the day. stop
0 likesJust like the AVGN, one of Emp’s best sponsorships is a Simpson parody
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what was it? I don't remember that.
0 likesThey said that modern American society couldn't be thoroughly analyzed through the lens of the analysis of a Simpsons episode.
10 likesThey were wrong.
Gen X grew up in a time where the president was a scoundrel. Hmm sounds close to the most recent ex-president
1 likeI saw Frank Grimes and his funeral being more of a metaphor on how millennials were treated and eventually rejected the world as it was. And Homer was the oblivious boomer generation.
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Funny because the episode is clearly stating that the same effort doesn't equate to same results.
17 likesHomer is only oblivious after landing a stable job, he had a harsh upbringing too, while Grimes is unhappy with everything he does but angrier at homer for achieving more with Similar effort.
If anythyng it exemplified how millennials lack the ability to work for themselves always comparing to others, then becoming oblivious and trying to change a world that does not revolve around them.
Fascinating.
0 likesNah. This Episode Aired in 95. The majority of Millennials were in Middle School at the oldest
4 likes@Myron Sanders the observation is actually very astute, and doesn’t inherently not apply to Gen X as well (only to a lesser degree). The last generation with quote/unquote “work ethic” came out of the 80’s (and that was largely fueled by “Toxic masculinity” & copious amounts of narcotics).
0 likes...I think I hate myself for having said that... 🤦🏽♂️😅😝
What is the music at 3:29?
0 likesI disagree with your entire premise of Homer. I don't think anyone looks up to him. I don't think he's a modern American hero except as a satire of it. I think when people see things magically work out for Homer they never expect that in their own lives. I think Homer is a cartoon character, people enjoy the absurdities of his behavior and circumstances. That's it. He's a fool, a jester. He's not an icon. We have no expectation of his outcomes or a desire to be like him. He's a terrible husband, friend, father, son, neighbor, etc.
13 likesIf there's any wish fulfillment in enjoying his character it's not as concrete as HIS character it's more emotional. We exist with intangible emotions and desires that more abstract art and commentary can tap into, we are not so singular or one dimensional that to associate anything of Homer is to want to be Homer in total. There are itches humans want to scratch that simply don't fit in our normal lives. We might like a little slapstick violence, but in real life we don't want people to get hurt. A cartoon satiates. We might like a little pettiness, a little revenge, a little laziness, but that doesn't mean that's what we want for our lives, nor does it mean we're jealous of Homer. Merely entertaining the absurdity for brief periods is often enough for people. We have imaginations, and we have thoughts. Ideas can be escorted to natural ends and emotional satiation can follow.
This episode does a good job deconstructing the Simpsons and Homer specifically but it doesn't mean there's anything more deep to it than cartoonish nonsense. There are characters and episodes of old Warner Bros. cartoons that deconstruct their own absurdity. We don't have to identify with those characters any more than we hope or expect our lives to be like Bugs Bunny.
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Patrick Star is a great example of a lovable bad example
1 likeThis only makes sense if you started watching at season 10.
0 likesRewatch the pilot and you'll see he's overtly the underdog and Flanders, AKA ideal America, is one of his obstacles.
@J Lupus I've been watching the Simpsons since about 1992, I was late to the game, but I made up for it by watching the first seasons about 10 times each as they've been on reruns nearly my entire life.
0 likesI appreciate your opinion, but I see Homer as a vessel that various people invent ideas to pour into. I don't think he means anything. As much as I enjoy people crafting "head canon" or tying up plot holes, I also realize there's no unified Homer theory because he's been run and written by so many people, as have everyone else on the show.
I'm sure there's a dozen TV Trope articles about what I'm describing, where over time a character just becomes many things to suit whatever needs at the time. That is what I mean about Homer just being a cartoon character. I don't think he's ever meant to be viewed deeply or consistently.
@promontorium So he's just a trolling satire for the 90s?
0 likesWhat about the consistent trends of the same character arcs of those first 9 seasons (like where every time he irreversibly messes up or hurts his family he ends up feeling bad about it later on)? For him to be as malleable as you say he is, he'd have to have inconsistent character traits. But he doesn't- he's always consistent.
IDK, maybe i'm missing something though.
The Simpsons isn't worse, it's literally the same mirror of America that it's always been.
0 likesIt's so terrible today because that's where America is now... it's slow descent into mediocrity is a direct mirror of today's woke America.
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*its
0 likes@Meedas Guy want a medal?
0 likes@Iron Horn Forge no, not really
0 likes@Iron Horn Forge the fuck is a vap? I just wanted to point the mistake out because I was pissed off at how common it is.
0 likes@Iron Horn Forge he just pointed out a mistake, chill
0 likesGran Tourismo :D:D
0 likes“Homers success stems from the intrinsic value he placed on those around him” Cuts to homer trying to choke his son to death for the eight hundredth time
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Yeah I thought that was bullshit. Homer doesn't care about his kids whatsoever. He cares about Marge and that's about it. Compare him to Peter Griffin who is literally a manchild who cares only about himself then yeah, he's a saint.
1 likeRick Grimes the walking dead
0 likesIs that Gran Turismo 3 music I hear
0 likesHomer is employed in a position made redundant by technology.
25 likesThe computer terminal does al the work while homer collects the cash.
Who noticed the GT4 Music ?
0 likesNever Ever on Stuttering Craig when
0 likesFF6 music in the vid? Win.
0 likesthere will Never Ever be another minecraft youtuber like GuudeBoulderfist
0 likes18:40 - Homer represents The Last Man.
26 likesHomer is the Last Man and Frank Grimes is The Slave in regards to Friedrich Nietzsche.
No, Frank Grimes is not The Higher Man. Frank failed to create anything of lasting value, failed to create invaluable progress.
What we see here is Frank unable to improve himself or his own life situation. That was his downfall.
Frank thought himself better than Homer but failed to try to be even better of a man by his own standards.
Frank scapegoated Homer and paid the price for pretending to be like Homer.
The simpsons kinda stink now
0 likesCaaan Lenny have it?
0 likesi am so happy i am high right now
1 likeI grew up in Springfield Florida
0 likesI just recognized music from grand turismo 3 on a video somehow...
0 likesGross. I couldn't even keep watching after he said the inbd thing.
0 likes'Homer's Enemy' in this story isn't Grimes. It's Mr. Burns. He's the way he is because he's stuck there, doing it all to support his family, having a 'do it for her' plaque on the wall. This is why he has a "boss makes a nickel when I make a dime" attitude to his job and the idea of making an effort to work hard and be productive in the plant actually goes against his own morals
1 likeI HAVE EATEN THE ENTIRE FCKING VIDEO.
0 likesI was just rewatching Emp yesterday...and now there’s a new vide right in the nick of time. SO STOKED!!
4 likes1 John 1:9
1 likeNew International Version
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
38:59 Cartoon Earth
0 likes15:54 tv show or movie name please?
0 likesWhat a lovely day
0 likesI might never watch a video analyzing the Simpsons again, because in less than an hour you've covered just about everything the Simpsons was, is, and could be.
3 likes"Lawzay Fair"
1 likeJesus christ FINE youtube I'll watch the damn video...
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omg therealjims! Glad I clicked...
0 likesHomer was fired from the Bowling alley.... And then you lost me big time with the Frank Grimes is Homer Simpson conclusion.
0 likesI can see where Franks frustration comes from but he is no saint... he is also a big hypocrite.
2 likesHe has that speech that people that work hard are ignored all their lives but when he came to dinner he pointed out everything that Homer had except the eight year old daughter with a an IQ of 154... meaning he does the exact same thing everyone has done to him all his life.
He also claims that having a beautiful wife is something to show for but having a daughter that inteligent is nothing. Which may give us an in-sight that he is a bit of a machist... if you are not convinced he also likes hookers as explained in an episode further down the line...
This episode is in deed very psychological
Not gonna lie, I didn't expect such depth, complexity and quality from an analysis on one single episode of Simpsons, and more importantly, one single character and his relationship with Homer. I was honestly caught off guard. I feel like I need to watch it a few more times just to start comprehending a part of it in my mind. There so many ideas and concepts being explored here that i have no idea how you managed to cover them all in such clarity and yet I still felt overwhelmed.
2 likesThis is an incredibly well-made and thought provoking video.
0 likesWow this video and the supplementing analysis were brilliant. I had never seen much of Simpsons as a foreigner but I saw the episode and then the video, absolutely brilliant.
2 likesI'm sad I only discovered you recently, you've become my favorite commentator on this platform.
2 likesWhen i was a kid we would watch the simpsons every saturday after my piano lessons qnd those are easily my favorite memories, i think it would of been around season 4-6
3 likesIt shows how young Emp is. He thinks the Simpsons were doing something different by doing what many shows has been doing for 50 years in covering pop culture or making fun of the President.
0 likesAdorbs.
I would say something witty and insightful here but honestly you pretty much said it all about how I feel about the series and that episode. People keep digging into me because I want to call out the mediocre sellout that is new Simpsons, but I keep believing that the show will never again be like it was in this era. Although, I personally believed the show actually jumped the shark in the 2000 episode where Homer dresses up as a baby for Mr. Burns, and gets raped by a panda at the zoo. Yes, that was an episode. I forgot the name of it, it was so awful.
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Oh good lord. Please tell me you're joking.
0 likesMax Power episode
0 likesif a video has over a mil views and it's 40 min long you know it's good
2 likesThis episode was always weird to me because Mr. Burns is almost entirely left out of the story. Frank Grimes blames Homer Simpson for all the problems he has, but it's Burns that chooses to pay Homer a middle-class income and doesn't reward Grimes for his hard work. Grimes is a libertarian, blind to the systems that cause his problems.
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In context of who Grimes is it makes sense though, the average employee no matter how hard they work will most likely never meet the man at the top. No Amazon factory worker has probably ever even seen Jeff Bezos in person.
5 likes@Finley Kennedy My dad relates a lot to Frank because he's just like him, and he works in a place which is made of like 70% Homers, 29% regular people and 1% Franks (my dad only I guess). The only difference with your comment is that my dad knoes the people that run the factory and they don't even care about it. The Homers have worked there for almost 30 year and there's nothing anyone can do, or else the factory goes to shit. Good luck working in that kind of environment. I always like to come back to this episode and think but it also doesn't reflect the complexity of the situation irl, at least it summarizes it but in reality things are much harder and not that black or white.
1 like@Chaz Domingo Grimes was a baby boomer if anything. Didn't this episode air in 1997?
0 likesThe decline and fall of the Simpsons is a revealing picture of America's collapsing sense of mental wellbeing. Once upon a time, the underlying assumption was the America was imperfect but ultimately good. We lost that though, slowly over many years, both in ourselves and in the media that reflects it.
214 likesThe earlier versions of the Simpsons gently mock our society; but they do it affectionately. We see that the police are incompetent, the teachers are apathetic, and that fundamentally maybe the American dream was not so perfect. But these jokes were jokes; exaggerated versions of what us cynical people think things are really like. And everyone was treated equally. Everyone has a stereotype. The show plays on that, and subverts our expectations by having broad cartoon characters actually be more nuanced than we thought. Or not; it's still a comedy. Sometimes the joke is that we expected Homer to learn a lesson and he didn't because it's funnier. But even that meta-humour derives from the fact that the audience already know what the lesson is supposed to be. This kind of humour is timeless, and speaks to everyone. It explores what it means to be an American, in a format that is loving, not aggressive.
Even in the earlier days when we look at founding myths of America - With Jebadiah Springfield's silver tongue - And it reminds us that we should look at these myths critically, and that we should also continue to look for historical clues and evidence to give us a clearer picture of who our founding fathers are. However, it also says that the myth itself has value and that it shouldn't be simply tossed away. Lisa chooses to let the town residents believe that their town founder was a good person that they should emulate, because at least that lie encourages them to act in a good way.
This is actually a really deep moment in the show. Lisa generally holds truth and objectivity as the highest virtue, and she has to grapple with that when she sees that truth is a-moral; it is neither good or evil in and of itself and that undermining something that is good and has value simply for the sake of truth is actually a bad thing.
The present version has lost this because it is no longer mocking something that it loves.
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Well said bro, i know exactly what you mean 👏 ... the show really has gone down hill 😳 nothing more than a corporate sell out..
4 likesExcept that people can be good on their own, and most are probably better than people like Leopold II who still have statues in public squares.
2 likesWow... this was incredibly well said, good job man A+
2 likesI dunno, I'd be fine with praising Jebediah if he wasn't such a scumbag, continuing to keep a blind eye on his monstrousities for the sake of keeping morale up is kinda disrespectful to the memory of his victims.
8 likesA stronger message could've been that it doesn't matter if your roots are rotten because you still ended up being better than him, like Dr. Manhattan's speech about miracles in Watchmen. You can still be a good nation even if you accept the bad stuff from your past, instead of pretending they didn't happen.
But no, let's instead encourage the American people to ignore parts of history because their feelings are more important (but let's pretend the victims of those lies don't have feelings). I might not follow Renegade Cut as much as I used to, but I fully agree with his video on the Jebediah episode and why I hate the ending.
Or at least they should've framed it in a more satirical way as "It's crazy that people would do this for the sake of their happiness", instead they kinda played it like an unironic happy ending, like something that it's okay to do.
It's kinda like how some people love to believe Americans did only good in WW2 and want to pretend all the fucking war criminals that took advantage of that chaos to do their worst in France didn't happen. "Well, who cares if some French women got harassed or our boys killed some innocent people for the kicks, in the end we did good so don't bring that up 'cause that's disrespectful to us!" ...See how little sense that makes?
Those fuckers aren't alive, and they shouldn't be blindly celebrated just because they were in a team of good soldiers. And just because some American soldiers in WW2 were awful human beings, that shouldn't discourage you from being better than them, so you can still learn from their better or worse example and be a good soldier.
@DeepEye1994 the military is done soon. Soldiers need to drop their uniforms and repent while we still have time
1 like@DeepEye1994 Why is the memory of his victims so important? They're dead and so is he. If believing on a lie is better for society at large and the people who are actually alive, then i don't how that can be a bad thing. It's a harmless lie, and more than that, one that actually does good.
4 likesI'd be all for deconstructing the American war crimes in WW2 if the people who suffered from then and perpetrated them were still alive and kicking. But the thing is, they're not. Most are either dead or have one foot in the grave. Meaning that there's not a point to seeking reparations to the victims and punishment to the perps. What are we gonna do? Track down their descendants?
Truth for the sake of truth in itself is meaningless.
@DeepEye1994 When Family Guy has a better conclusion to this exact same premise: by sticking the monument of Pawtucket Pat in a museum to be forgotten...
0 likesLost alone is right, it’s funny how much like Frank Grimes some people are and will never get it
0 likesawesome video. I loved the Simpsons as a kid even if I didn't always get all the references.
0 likesGotta get a ‘never ever of Ayrton Senna’ one day, would love to see the video you make of that.
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Absolutely.
0 likesDude, Gran Turismo 4's soundtrack truly makes every monologue and discussion feel more sofisticaded than they would have felt elsewise.
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Also, Gran Turismo 3 and 5's, haha.
1 likePoor Grimey! He could never catch a break...then Homer makes a farce of his funeral. 🤣
14 likesGrimes is the embodiment of a Russian during the late 1800s to early 1900s
5 likesYou could almost say the Simpsons has been on a downward spiral
0 likesThe Springfield in the Simpsons is based on Springfield, OR. Groening chose to name the city in the show Springfield because of how many cities share the name and wanted more Americans to feel like they can relate to the show. I avoid Springfield, OR at all costs. I've seen the show, I know how bad it is there lol
0 likesI have no interest in Melee, WWE, and equaly in Nascar, yet I am praying (atehist here) for more of this series. Duuuuuuuuuuude! Keep this content coming. I'll drink more mezcal (or any other alcoholic bottle in my shelft) while watching your videos.
1 likeIts kinda weird that life puts us as Grimeys but everyone wants to be a Homer.
1 like3rd time watching this, lately feeling a lot like Grimes lately. Definitely gona do something stupid and childish this weekend, wish i had a homer Simpsons to hang out with
1 likeThe simpson's creators were like frank grimes until they did that episode and decided to be like Homer.
1 likeWhat a documentary. Brilliant!
0 likesHomer's enemy is my all times favorite episode
0 likesHomer's Enemy was brilliant.
0 likesthis is why i was ultimately happy that futurama ended when it did and it didn't have a dragged out death like the simpsons :(
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Fr fr ... futurama died a hero & the ending was perfect ❤
0 likesYou are so good at these videos man. Have any thoughts on South Park? Would be interested to see a similar video for them.
6 likesYou come for a simpsons rundown and stay for a philosophy class.
0 likesGrimes was also based on Michael Douglas's character in falling down!
0 likesAlso, season 9 and 10 aren't that bad. I agree it's downhill from there.
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Anything after 1999 is trash tbh... i hate how they changed the whole vibe & dynamic of the show 😒
0 likeshomer is a true capitalist. he's selfish but uninterested in hindering other's success. many philosophers actually consider that to be the ideal way of life due to it's reflection of the natural world. a monkey doesn't care what a lion eats, as long as it isn't him. all the monkey cares about is eating bananas in a tree. the limited supply of bananas isn't a problem to the monkey, the only thing he cares about is whether or not there are bananas for him. if some other monkey ends up with an unreasonably large number of bananas, and there aren't a whole lot left in the tree, that makes him a prime candidate to take banana's from. the system is self regulating.
2 likesGrimes is the opposite. using the monkey analogy: despite the fact that he still has plenty of banana's, he's angry that some of the banana's he picked where rotten, and he thinks that therefore he's entitled to take from another monkey.
one takes what he needs, the other takes what he believes he deserves. in a weird sort of way, everything's come full circle. the modern generation is more like Grimes, while the older generation is more like homer. this will of course rotate once again with gen z becoming opportunistic again.
I knew you were going to include the Hit and Run car selection music and I’m so glad you did it at the end. Great song for a great video.
3 likesCan’t believe I put off watching emplemon for so long these are great
0 likesGreat video. The general perception of The Simpsons today seems to be "that lame mainstream cartoon that's been unfunny for decades" but people don't know that it initially was the underground edgy cartoon that appealed to the rebellious youth.
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Exactly bro, pretty much.. im glad im not the only one who feels this way.
0 likesSo Ironically Frank Grimes will never die.
1 likeBest. Episode. Ever. (Oh, and Mr Sparkle and Springfield's "X" Files). Sadly, no longer watchable as Simpson's writers lecture us via the oh - so - woke, Lisa.
17 likesSpringfield is based on Portland, Oregon. I live here and the creator of the Simpsons is from here. We even have a neighborhood here with streets named Homer, Marge, etc. Lots of stuff is based on Portland history and folklore. Like the statue of the mountain man. The power plant too.
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It's actually based on Springfield, OR, and Matt Groening said as much himself during an interview. The powerplant and the statue of the mountain man are all Springfield, but it's funny that you think it's Portland. In a sense, it's all towns, like the video says, but it's literally Springfield, OR
0 likes15:09 An interesting piece of foreshadowing on the video:
0 likes" YOU'RE what's wrong with AMERICA , Simpson"
Since you just take the emphasized words and you get "YOU'RE AMERICA", which ends up relating to the whole Classic and Modern America representation
I've given it some thought and basically. The Frank Grimes character is the death of the old style of the American Dream where you could break your back doing menial labor and expect social security, a well-paying job that gives you insurance and retirement benefits. Life partners who will marry you for pragmatic reasons, and you raise kids specifically so they'll support you when you are old.
0 likesThat system doesn't exist anymore. If you want to be successful, you need to exploit the meta that wants to entrap you. Work a shitty job for a couple of years and put all your money into something that has a return that's big enough to where you can afford to invest in a dream or a project that you like doing but is expensive. Succeed in doing that, and you can actually have things like a partner who likes you for you and kids you can actually spend time raising to enjoy them.
Now you have to talk about the best episode of the best tv show... Season 5 Episode 14 of Breaking Bad, the only episode on IMDb to have a perfect 10/10 rating with over 100k ratings.
0 likes3:33 Snipings a good job mate
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Challenging work, out of doors, guarantee you wont go hungry. Cos at the end of the day, long as theres 2 people left on the planet, someones gonna want someone dead.
0 likesyou know the video is good when no one in the comments is talking about the over a minute long vsauce intro
0 likes"responsible and virtuous role models"
7 likesawkward zoom on Bill Cosby's face
Fast forward and now the Simpsons caved in a got rid of Apu and made voice actor apologise because some people got offended.
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It honestly doesnt matter to me, i dont watch any episode after 1999. Hard to believe people still watch that trash 😕
0 likesAnd that's why I love VSauce. But Michael was kinda different in this episode.
0 likesIdea: there will Never Ever be another band like The Beatles (if you need to, use a different/separate video sharing platform to avoid copyright barriers)
4 likesIf you ever get around to it, I've got a great idea for a future episode: "There Will Never Ever be Another Sitcom like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"
1 likecrazy how after all these years in that rabbit has the same eyes as the characters in disenchanted.
1 likehow thats consistency!
Amazing use of music and transitions!
0 likesI've never watched this show but the Homer vs Flanders thing sound like what goes between Timmy's dad and Dinkleburg. Not very related to the video's topic, I just thought it was neat
0 likesImpressive work.
0 likesso homer and marge simpson are named after groening's own parents.
0 likesthat's a great way of tribute
I don't know why this episode is so popular - Homer is so over the top mean spirited it's like he's a different character than the one we had grown to know and love. It's bizarre.
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This was back when the show was good and this episode at that point where Homer was a perfect contrast to Frank Grimes.
3 likes18:23 he really did Americans dirty
1 likeThat prononciation of "laissez-faire" though
0 likesLmao I didnt know Frank Grimes was based off of Frank Gallagher. Well, the guy who plays him. I know Shameless came out long after The Simpsons
0 likesI absolutely adore the gran turismo music in the background, brings back the best of memories.
0 likesThis is my fav episode!
0 likesI was going so well till 33:00.
0 likesGood video, it does remind me of supereyepatchwolf's fall of Simpson's video quite a few times though.
0 likesso the moral of the story is that things will always be unfair and you can either fight against it, change nothing, and waste your life, or sit back and relax as everything goes to shit? and that second option is what a modern hero would do? im not even an american but im 100% on grimes side on this one
0 likesgreat vid tho thats just my opinion
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The moral is that you should either sit back like Homer or fight against the system, fighting against Homer (Someone who did nothing to Grimes, ADMIRED him, who's suffered a lot more than Grimes ever has, and who only slacks off because of how bad Mr Burns abuses him and the others) instead of Burns represents pure egocentrism and a superiority complex. Homer may look scummy by not trying to change a system that screws over others, but from his perspective all systems are equally trash, and he has supported more people than Grimes has ever supported with his "fairness" stand.
0 likesI dunno I still believe in working hard but also not comparing myself to others and being resentful. I'm Frank and Homer rolled up.
0 likesLoving the final fantasy 6 and mario 64 music. Great video btw
2 likesI still like the simpsons new episodes
0 likescould it be that Springfield is in Florida, since in the game "Simpsons Hit And Run" Marge has an outfit saying "Florida State" on it?
0 likesEh, Season 9 I still see as extremely classic...a few from 10 but none from 11/12 etc
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I honestly cant watch anything past 1999 😟, the drop in quality is astonishing..
0 likes14:24 I actually needed this reminder, I already forgot lol.
0 likes27:03 is a vibe for some reason
0 likesPeople like Frank Grimes are not that successful in the USA today but in China Grimes is the ideal type of worker.
0 likesJesus fuck the level of attention to every small clip played with the voice over "getting the short end of the stick" while Moleman is hit in the groin and his stick is left standing lol
0 likesHats off to this guy, he knows his simpsons
Out Bloody Rageous - Soft Machine. Great track, cool to hear it included. Thats a deep cut for sure
2 likessigh Time to fall in love with something old again
0 likesI just like Homer Simpson because he’s dumb and funny
0 likesI think springfield is in New York since homer is the one that operates the new york nuclear safety and its shown quite a bit on the show
0 likesHomer Simpson: The anti-Stanislav Petrov
0 likesgran simpsons : the real american simulator
1 likeI like how Fox went from new and progressive while ABC and what not were supposedly conservative
1 likeAnnndd now Fox is the lone conservative and is slowly falling.
Bro, some people think the Simpsons writers are time travelers and if they are, do you think they named frank grimes frank grimes on purpose? Because idk it just seems like a coincidence of sorts.
0 likes39:42 gasp there's a better way?!
0 likesIMO There will never ever be a show like the Inbetweeners
0 likesFINALLY HE’S HERE
0 likesAccording to the wizard of oz, copper paint.
1 likeThat last joke is even funnier now that rusty cage is bald
0 likesGreat choice with the mario 64 bowser level music!
0 likesThere's a reason the greats die young...? You're an odd writer...
0 likesI think someone on youtube did end up figuring out where the Simpsons live
0 likes4:00 "snipings a good job mate"
0 likesyou should do "there will never be another Top Gear"
0 likesthe 'american dream' idea, truth was it's never been achievable, and the attempts in 1950 for the housing market, for example, had ripple effects creating a worse situation today
0 likes24:49 - 25:11 Someone please tell the ever growing presence of anarcho-communists in America this.
0 likesthere will Never Ever be another video game/fps like Team Fortress 2? I know you like it, you keep using its music and your old ytp have lots of references to it
1 like32:47 No emplemon it’s a they started a DOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesSuggestion:never ever will there be another company like Apple
0 likesGrimes represents the people who feel cheated out of the American Dream where you'll be rewarded for your hard work and despise people like Homer who, embodies a different version of the American Dream where living a carefree life is it's own reward.
3 likesReactors dont blow up like nukes.
0 likesThe music near the beginning sounds like menu music from one of the first Gran turismo games.
0 likesnitpicky but 16:35~ we didn't overthrow the british monarchy, we defeated their army though.
0 likesPoor Grimy.
0 likes39:50 You mean there is a better way?
0 likesI like the vsauce vibe in the begging
0 likesDo one on Steve Irwin
0 likes"you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
1 likePlease do a Never Ever on Kentaro Miura.
0 likesMore please
0 likesQuality 👌
0 likesis emp a giant or rusty a midget ?
0 likesI like the gran turismo lounge music. Lol
1 likeHell there is a Springfield in Northern Ireland
0 likesSo he just wanted to ..... Rage against the mach-
0 likesThe episode itself was a classic, but Grimes was just not a likable character. He's bitter, stuck up, and was constantly trying to prove he's "superior"
0 likesGran Turismo music? Absolutely fantastic.
0 likesThe question of fairness is not that complicated yes there are things in this world that is out of our control but what is unfair is how people makes things unfair like bad parents giving everything to one child and ignoring the other and when the kids says it’s unfair the parents say the world is unfair there are plenty of examples of people all over the world making things unfair for other people
0 likesimagine having to pay for your prescriptions lol america
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United Kingdom = gaarbage bin of EU 🤣
0 likesthe simpsons are green cause they made a whole lot of money for 20th century fox
0 likesImagine there an episode called there will never be another quarterback like Tom Brady
1 likeamazing video
0 likesThat shirt of yours seems to be a bit too tight
0 likesEmplemon please do never ever ufc
1 likegreat video
0 likesThen: This video
0 likesNow: "Apu is racist"
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This video came out after the apu is racist debacle
1 like@strange hominid Oh wow, fairs. Still, very sad.
0 likesI hate when I feel naus-eated
0 likesPlease do there will never ever be another footballer like Zlatan Ibhrahimović.
0 likes28:38 anyone know the song used?
0 likes5:45
0 likesi spotted young john connor
Wait till he hears about family guy.
0 likesWould you like to see my Grammy award?
0 likesI live about 10 minutes from Springfield Louisiana😂
0 likesIs the music at the end from Aqua Teen, or am I just uncultured swine?
0 likesJohn swarzwelder recently did a fucking interview the interviewer should of showed him this fucking video lol
0 likesAmerican ideal = laissez faire. hahaha the ideal is so American that the word is French
0 likesare you pointing out how unfair it is that Asians have to work twice as hard as other poc to get into Harvard with that graph? 25:34
0 likesraw models.... close up and... whops! hahaha
0 likesNever ever idea: Diego maradona
0 likesGROW-ning not GRAIN-ing.. lol
0 likes17:05 Is it just me or do I hear Stromae?
0 likesfrom 1:00 onward I was hard vibing to the music. Gran Turismo 3 anyone else?
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At 33:00 as well!
0 likesLady Gaga killed The Simpsons.
0 likesNo way.you showed MOONMAN???? LOL moonman hates em
0 likes"Don't you know how close you were to drinking acid??"
26 likesHomer: :D
At 3:02 you can hear a New Zealander raised as an Australian shouting “Heads Up!”, as he flings a jar of questionable yellow liquid at you.
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Is this... JARATE!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
1 likeThere will never ever be another YouTuber like Emplemon.
41 likes1:23 whats the music in the backround?
0 likesI love how Emp went full out to make a Vsauce episode for the intro.
3 likesI'm sure to say there will Never Ever be another youtuber like EmpLemon
5 likes18:10 Soft Machine MY NIGGA
0 likesThis shit just opened up my third eye
1 likewhoa
(Born in 1999) I will never forget the night my father brought home a DVD copy of the first season of Simpsons, made some popcorn, and "introduced us to our ourselves"
6 likesExcellent
0 likesMan that generation X portion of the video had me going: "Gee that sounds familiar" a million times over, my generation (and the two following) had to deal with very similiar bullshit.
28 likesIts like we've been stuck in a loop since the 80's.
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Burn the boomers! - Me, a zoomer
6 likesWhen you think you're living in the worst time in history, look at history and think again.
11 likes@Paul Webb and so? Do we only need to be grateful?
2 likesOk boomer
@Paul Webb Doesn't have to be the worst to be complete and utter dogshit.
0 likes22:17 AMONG US
0 likesIs it bad that when Emp said “Hi, Everybody!” I immediately responded “Hi, Dr. Spiral!” with the video itself?
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Hi Dr Nick
3 likesThe Simpsons Springfield is Oregon.
0 likes"He is...the Legendary Super Simpson."
12 likes"Why is it kinda...green?"
"BECAUSE IT'S *LEGENDARY.*"
You think free episodes could be posted on yt by changing their color?
0 likes"The name of this character is..."
260 likesSideshow Bob!
"Homer Simpson!"
Oh
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I was thinking Moe
1 likeI thought Sideshow Bob as well!
2 likesI saw that shit coming
3 likesDon't you mean
2 likesDOH
It's never Hans Moleman😟
2 likesMy immediate answer was Mr Burns... I don't even know how well he fits the question.
0 likesstill waiting for a video on Spore
0 likesHONEY GET OVER HERE.
111 likesPUT EVERYTHING DOWN.
EMPLEMON HAS UPLOADED!
Sneaking in some Gran Turismo
0 likes20 minutes in and I still don't know why there will never be another episode like this. Video should be titled something like "how The Simpson's were a reflection of the US in their early years"
0 likesI was literally just thinking last night after watching the Stanislov video, "Damn he hasn't put out a never-ever for a year, I wonder if he's gonna do them anymore" then blam, next morning I get this.
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Your profile pic is a green cheek conure i have a green cheek conure his name is donut
4 likes@_deadrabbit Nice! My lil bud is 3, His name is Patrick :)
1 likeI was watching The Real Jims when getting this, so great timing Emp
73 likesEdit: Hey theres The Real Jims right now, i thought i accidentally clicked reverse
good video
1 likeSince the Simpsons have been around since the late 80s they've been around for 5 different decades.
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5 decades, 2 centuries and 2 millenia
8 likeshollup lemme rewatch the episode first
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yeah this was a masterpiece, as the Simpson's was.
2 likesWhy are the simpsons yellow?!?!?!?!?
0 likesAnother reason the Simpsons were green was to avoid getting a copyright strike.
5 likesThis is good
0 likesMy friend has been using this character as an avatar for nearly a year now for good reason.
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It’s all so true...
8 likesGangsta boogie
0 likes"Doh Doh Doh"
0 likesThe Simpson's are based in Massachusetts. It's just a fact
0 likes34:40 This doesn't really count as one of their predictions, I mean who else didn't see Siegfried and/or Roy getting attacked by a tiger?
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I mean Trump running for president and the Towers being attacked were also really telegraphed and predictable but that won't stop people from thinking that Matt Groening has a magic 8 ball that works.
3 likesI hate seeing recent events and things in simpsons episodes. I didn’t watch it as a kid so I can’t miss the “old” way it was. It’s just weird now. They shouldn’t have iPhones. They shouldn’t have YouTube. I don’t like it.
0 likesFinally, Never Ever has returned. And the topic is my favorite show of all time.
4 likesGreat video, I have one question though. The graph you show about racial differences in SAT scores seems to portray a societal bias, not random unfairness as stated. The graph shows the average scores of students admitted to Harvard, to me this only shows that Asians are expected to have high scores, not that Asians trend towards higher scores.
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I think it implies that acceptance into Harvard only depends on the best SAT scores, which I disagree with (success in college, work, and everything in life comes down to many factors including work ethic and character, not just 'intelligence'). The implication behind THAT, I think, is that we should never EXPECT full equality, affirmative actions taken towards it or no. And while I MILDLY agree that some things will be unequal no matter how hard we try to change them, I feel like saying "unfairness will always exist so don't try to fix it" is akin to saying "you're going to die eventually so why bother living".
2 likes@Findinglio Spugolingi I agree, the statement “life isn’t fair”, while true, doesn’t mean that we should never try to make it fairer. We may never live in a perfect world, but that means we can always live in a better one
2 likesi love you dude
0 likesSouth Park evolved into what the Simpsons wanted. But South Park got a network to tell a story a legit adult would enjoy in today's culture.
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The simpsons dumbed it itself down so much only babies & kids could watch that crap 😳
0 likesHomers Enemy actually got a sequel. It’s an episode we’re a mysterious man is trying to kill Homer and Homer is wondering who is trying to kill him. Sideshow bod helps out Homer into finding this mysterious man until a concert or something Homer finally finds out who is trying to kill him. Frank Grimes Jr (Franks son)
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Is it a good episode?
3 likes@אורי ניסים שורץ I thought it was alright. Sideshow bob teaming up with The Simpsons was a bit weird but I still enjoyed it.
15 likesSpoiler:It wasnt
12 likesRuins Grimes' character by implying he loves hookers. Not the same Frank we know.
9 likes@George Liquor Not at all. A man who couldn't dedicate time to his personal time, could only express his feelings with a hooker.
4 likesOr maybe I'm just overthinking about a 2000's Simpson episode, where you just laugh because it's funny XD, not because it's funny.
Green grimes tried to kill me
2 likesThat sounds really dumb and makes me wish that The Simpsons ended at S8 even more
0 likesThat was a decent episode
0 likes"Often times the greatest art doesn't give us all the right answers, it makes us ask the right questions"
10 likesHaha hell yeah
0 likesIt just about messed me up. The good folks at Springfield were LAUGHING at the guy being buried!!
7 likesI couldn't believe it!
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They were laughing at Homer, not at Grimes.
0 likes@Paper Sonic Either way, lt was bizarre.
0 likes9:30 - The history of simpson showrunners (S1-7)
8 likes13:35 - Season 8
18:05 - Why do we like homer simpson ?
I can't shake off the feeling that this is the spiritual part 2 of the spongebob episode
3 likesI know there are a lot of visuals but I also just like listening to Never Ever episodes like it's a radio story
8 likes"Laissez-faire" and the american dream are lame but ok
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@Oda Swifteye can't stand a blunt opinion ? The video is great btw, only the american dream isn't.
1 like@PierreLucSex France = middle east 2021
0 likes@Pròchazka oh yeah, the famous slavic bs
0 likesI really disliked that episode
1 likeLiterally one of my favorite Simpson episode. No joke
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@peter gibbons let people enjoy things man
0 likes@peter gibbons very fun at parties aren't you mr reddit?
0 likesIs the music from Gran Turismo? Nice
0 likesFunny how Gen X and Millennials are so similar we may as well just be one giant generation. Despite media still thinking Gen Z are Millennials... I will never understand their misplaced cultural labeling of people largely in our 30's to early 40's now, as if we're all 15.
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when you still have 70-80 years old people running the world, you doesn't have any reason to be an adult
4 likesCouldn't have said it better myself
2 likes@Henrique Melchior Gomes Ain't that a sad truth.
3 likesEmp more like edp
0 likesi'm 3 minutes in & new to this channel and the editing already goes hard as hell
4 likesI was born in Springfield Ohio
0 likes"There will never ever be another anime like Gurren Lagann"
42 likesI will legitimately trade my soul for this video
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I dunno, School-Live! probably deserves one too, but Emp probably doesn't want to be an anime channel.
1 likeThat's your opinion. He's not making these videos based on suggestions or what other people think is popular.
3 likesCowboy bebop might be a better contender
1 like@Giga Chad Or anything Satoshi Kon made.
1 likeSigh... why did he had to die so soon...
is that fucking soft machine
0 likesyour underrated
0 likesLet’s binge
1 likeI had absolutely no idea I wanted this much analysis of The SImpsons.
3 likeshe’s such a basic american
0 likesIt’s capitalism. The issue is that 4 people own everything. That’s why work doesn’t equal success.
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One day we will eat the rich 😈
0 likesI dont think that was the point of the episode though. It was more about what happens when you allow bitterness about how unfair life is to ruin you. It can apply to anything. How pretty you are, how tall you are, how smart you are. Nobody EARNS those things, but getting angry at those who have them wont hurt them, it will just hurt you
1 like32 seasons...
1 likeDude what show is this?
0 likes"Matt Groening would have to enter hell."
13 likesmap pans to Los Angeles
absolute gold
so fox fox said lets do wat every other companies did but no
0 likesGreat and totally unique content from you, as always.
0 likesI like how he classifies every philosophy he says in America implying that just moving to Britain will be like finding heaven
2 likesI just recently found out this goldmine of a channel. The way you deliver your commentary is unmatched in the Youtube landscape. I spent non-stop 4 hours watching as much of your content, and I still do not feel a burnout by your content. You deserve all the praise and subscription, continue doing what you do. But, I have a few questions, do you have a Patreon link to donate? Secondly, will there be a commentary on anime shows like Attack on Titan or Death Note, or Code Geass? I would love to see how you interpret these shows and the themes presented in them.
0 likesDon’t know why I keep watching this video above all your others. Really well written
0 likesInsightful and well-written as always
2 likesThis is an incredible interpretation. Bravo 👏 Subbed!
2 likesI know it is trendy to say that the Simpsons had been declining for 20 years, but I still like the show. I think people get tired of things over time and that is a bigger reason for the show's decline than the show's actual quality. Also, as we have been watching the show for so many decades now, we can see all the jokes coming. That said, I still find those jokes funny, even if I see them coming from a mile away.
0 likesHe was right about 5 years ago, but since then the show has really worked hard on its satire, even compared to the early years.
0 likesI do like the connection you've made between Ned and Homer and Frank. It's an exploration of God through creativity. Ned is blessed by God, Homer comes to be blessed by God (in the show being successful). This leaves Frank, who is also blessed by God in that he is given death and escape from the miserable trap of his existence. Like a mercy killing. I always loved the ending personally - it's a sharp dose of unpleasant reality, like all truly hilarious comedy.
0 likesWell done on this video! and thank you for it :)
0 likesWhat I got from this is we should be more like homer simpson in life.
0 likesMaybe its a little to obvious, but you should do one of these on the End of Evangelion. It's such a monumental series on it's own, End of Eva just caps it off in such a spectacular way. Not to mention there was plenty of controversy about the original series ending, and countless fan theories and conclusions that can be drawn from the actual movie itself.
1 likeThe Simpsons has gone entirely downhill after S11, E05 at precisely 10:49. Never has a single Simpsons scene surpassed that, nor will there ever be one to even come close to it again.
0 likeshomers enemy represents everything society laughs AT: hard workers, ppl who make an honest living, ppl who think rational thoughts and have logic, etc...
0 likesOf course not, the Simpsons were a good show that lasted about 8 seasons, and was filled with memorable episodes and served as a sharp commentary on the American culture.
1 likeAnd than it got replaced by the Zombie Simpsons, or Zimpzonz which is nothing but endless roes of pandering without any originality and spirit, and who like a zombie walks despite being quite dead (having no brain activity) Its just that no one have had the guts to kill it.
Homer Simpson - American middle class 1950-1980
3 likesFrank Grimes - American middle class 1990-2020
as usual great exposition and extremely questionable philosophizing. thanks, was great
0 likesI dont normally like video essays, but yours are awesome you can make it fun
0 likesI'm gonna guess that Stanley Kubrick is the next "Never Ever" video in the works
1 likeWhat an incredible deep dive, excellent, excellent video.
0 likesWe have all worked with a Frank Grimes in our career and on the other hand we have all worked with a Homer Simpson.
0 likesFrank Grimes is a true hero.
0 likesSeason 9 had some good episodes too. There were definitely a few dumb ones but season 10 is 100% where they lost me. When they killed Maude Flanders in season 11, I tapped out.
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Season 11 episode 5 though
1 like@Squid Man Nuva I heard that one was pretty funny. I have all of the seasons up to 12 on DVD I think. I'll check it out. Thanks!
0 likesI disagree with the claim that Homer places a high value on those around him. He is an alcoholic that often neglects his family, physically abuses his son and doesn't even remember his youngest daughter's name. The sprinkled instances of him being kind or caring to them just serve to show that he is not a psychopath, but they are clearly not his top priority. That honor goes to self indulgence in alcohol, food and entertainment. Like how he was willing to risk his job and livelihood in order to go to a tour of a brewery, or how he forgot to pickup his son from soccer practice because he was busy watching tv.
0 likesThe simpsons are so interesting, that when I watched the simpsons on Disney + I went through multiple seasons without noticing a thing
0 likesThe Simpsons, my favorite animated series ever.
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I agree although the series really went downhill after 1999...
0 likes2:30 that image for nevada sums it all up, like they really nailed it.
0 likesMaybe it's just me; I wasn't so impressed with this episode. I think The Simpsons had reached its peak a couple of seasons before this. I used to looooove the Simpsons but I haven't watched many episodes in the last 15+ years or so.
0 likesThere's also a reason why the 80s and early 90s sitcoms were the best. Nuclear family! Even Fresh Prince, Family Matters showed that the black family functions best with the nuclear family and of course the most important thing, a strong black father (employed, married, owns a home, defends the family, teaches life lessons, and works hard at family and career).
1 like"The first show to extensively reference other popular media"
0 likesI'm afraid that recognition goes to St. Elsewhere. It's much less accessible to a modern audience, but if you really want to understand how and why TV changed you can't ignore that show.
A lot of ppl fail to notice that homer caused grimed to be depromoted and had to pick up a night job when homer almost drank acid and grimes tossed it out of his hand. He has a right to be pissed at homer and didn't deserve ppl laughing at his funeral (but is all to realistic). I feel if he knew how homer got that job as safety inspector (it's realy a bribe from burns) he wouldn't have gone so over the edge.
0 likesThe simpsons may not be what it was. But it went from counter culture to becoming culture. And you can't have one without the other.
0 likesNice one, loved the soft machine in the background too!
0 likesI like the new episodes still. Not much the old ones. Even though they are the classics, I find a lot of good episodes from the seasons 20-30.
0 likesi love this video. very good job. <3
0 likes19:03 - "Only by relinquishing control over others can we ensure our own agency to do as we please."
1 likeThat only works if EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITHOUT EXCEPTION agrees to do the same. Of course some people's version of "doing as they please" is to control others, which is why the rest of us can't afford to relinquish whatever control we have over those people.
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Getting incel vibes
1 like@Eric Glenn hmmmm
0 likes@Eric Glenn: That accusation makes absolutely no sense in this context. Maybe you're projecting.
0 likesInteresting perception but it's based purely on hypocrisies. Homer IS just really lucky and reality IS just really depressing. The thing is though that neither can exist any other way. For someone like homer to exist not only do they have to have all the qualities you mention but they have to be one of the lucky few people with those exact qualities whose life isn't destroyed by the consequence of their own mistakes. The episode is so funny because of this simple concept, the sheer unlikeliness for a Grimes to fail and for a Homer to succeed is what makes it so funny when it happens, but then again ONLY before we consider the real-life consequences to their actions. Even if you exclude the scientifically impossible events from the series there exists no actual person as lucky as Homer.
1 likeFundamentally humans always mistake the entire world to be revolving around them in some way/shape/form and this ingrained narcissism is actually a survival tactic and defense mechanism because ironically to believe you don't believe the world revolves around you means you actually see yourself as so much more important than the average person sees themselves that you are actually even more self-centered than if you realized you were.
Why write a whole paragraph to explain that one concept though? Aren't I just trying to knock you down a peg or off some high horse you may not actually be on? Well no, but it is understandably the instinctual response to such pretentiousness. Consider this though: For >99% of us Homer is who we convince ourselves we are just to get through life and that is why we relate so much with him despite no one being anywhere even close to as lucky as him, and yet Grimes who we really are if we strip away all our delusions and see ourselves from a completely different existence. Really they are both just as incompetent but Grimes thinks too much of Homer and Homer thinks too little of Grimes. Homer tries so hard to impress Grimes in the exact same way as Grimes trying to devalue Homer. Homer actually fails Grimes in this episode but is too incompetent to care, and this is no different from how we fail ourselves and drive ourselves to madness by idolizing luck the way Grimes does. It may not seem like it but Grimes idolizes Homer, Homer is everything Grimes wishes he was. If Homer were smarter he would have helped Grimes instead of driving him insane but we need to remember that this is a show and not an actual 2 person dynamic. So if we go back to looking at both of them as if they are just 1 individual trying to understand themselves THEN we can see something very interesting.
What is so interesting is how they both have things backward about the other and their only middle-ground is that neither of them got to choose how lucky they are. They could learn from each other but they outright refuse to, and both are actually very straightforward about this. Grimes communicates this with words and by trusting the world around him with having the same intentions as himself, and this is his actual fatal flaw. Not his working hard for nothing approach or being stuck up or being unlikable or even his outlook on life, not any of the things we(Homer) perceive as his fatal flaw actually is. His fatal flaw is in his failure to accept that he only sees the value of everything around him through his eyes. Ironically this is also Homer's fatal flaw but Homer is simply lucky. They are the same person but with completely opposite lives and sadly the lucky one doesn't care enough about the other guy to save him(the lucky guy only cares about himself), BUT the unlucky guy ALSO doesn't care enough about the other guy to save him in an exact mirrored representation. The lesson is that it is foolish to mistake ourselves as superior regardless of whether we are a Homer or a Grimes. If either of them simply tried to take on the others advice then there would have actually been a chance of them surviving, but the reality is that they are just as horrible/lovable and flippant/balanced as each other.
So the joke is simply that life favors the lucky and so it's the classic tragedy is comedy routine, we feel the need to laugh about the inequality of their luckiness in life because the truth is so difficult for us to swallow and because as much as we may convince ourselves otherwise neither man actually exists in real life. When you see a Grimes or a Homer in real life you are simply perceiving yourself as the other one.
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Ok good, you touch on this in the last third of the video. Maybe you are just better at putting this into words for the general populace but it seems you do understand what I explained, I do think the hypocrisies in the first half of the video were unnecessary but maybe they help get the viewer invested in the video enough to consider what you say in the end.
1 likeI think one facet you amy have missed is that it may not be possible to ever be homer simpson in a laize fair sense. I think it may be worth acknowledging that although genX was known for its apathy and distaste for unfairness and homer represents this and goes a step further by accepting unfairness by exploiting the people exploiting him, later generations must now confront the question of what happens when even the ability to live humanely is being broached and taken away. I think this is distinct from grimes specific discontent because grimes is upset that homes is rewarded while he is not. now its a matter of all wages being stifled and there being no clear way at all to get ahead grimes today would be seen as delusional for believing that he could get anywhere and homer, well homer wouldn't exist, he wouldn't be able to start a family or survive. what would a genz or millenial homer look like? maybe the answer to that is also subversive maybe a modern day homer is someone who still lives with their parents working minimum wage, maybe in a multigenerational cramped apartment with his parents and his own family, would he find pleasure in videogames? can he even support a family? the contempt for a modern day grimes would be directed towards societal structures which have been laid bare as corrupt before us but grimes just can't do much about it.
0 likesI remember a lot of adults flipping out over the simpsons to the point to where shirts at my school were not allowed, especially the one that said don't have a cow man lol Pretty tame by today's standards, Must say I've never seen the one that has Bart Simpson's head on Michael Jordan's body on a bulls T-shirt also promoting air Jordan shoes quoting can't touch this... who gets sued by who,where to start lol
0 likesSo if the simpsons was base on the creator’s life, is it safe to say that Springfield is in Oregon?
0 likesCould it survive if it tried to question the new establishment? Basically the establishment it used to fight?
0 likes3:59 That ironic Bill Cosby compliment got me lol
4 likesThe Simpsons is too busy pontificating about politics and cowtowing to social justixe to make an interesting, poignant episode ever again.
0 likes8 minutes in hold on, what does this have to do with Homers Enemy in particular
0 likesMore than a bit hyperbolic there EmpLemon. Listening to you it might seem we witnessed the birth of sliced bread. I mean, the episode was good I recall watching it at the time and identified with the whole unfairness of life aspect but didn't really see Jesus in the toast or anything.
0 likesWay to get 50 minutes out of this gem of an episode.
0 likesYou should have titled it 'Why there hasmt been a good Simpsons episode in 20 years presented in a Higher Learneing Format stretched out over 50 minutes for max ad revenue' but then again that's pretty long.
16:38 bwahaha yeah you really 'overthrew' the monarchy. You totally threw them over! You're a winner, Murca! LMAO.
0 likesThis is my literal 4th time revisiting and re-liking this video. Youtube keeps removing my like for you, Emp. I'm just gonna keep placing the like, you work too hard to get shafted.
2 likesI never identified with Homer. When I was younger, this role was fulfilled for me by Bart and sometimes Lisa. I don't like guys like Homer in real life, btw, but I didn't care about him at all to this point. When I got older, the series just got lame.. I still watched it here and there, but from some point on Homer has gotten SO dumb, that I really hate Homer now and don't want to see the series ever again.
0 likesPS: Yeah, I don't like dogs, too!
This video was longer than the episode it studied. Fascinating.
0 likesThis was the first episode of the Simpsons I ever saw.
8 likes5:17 almost everything in this description is true for today’s Gen Z except for the resignation of the president and the threat of nuclear destruction
1 likeI'm going to argue that Freddie Mercury was a bit past his prime when he died. Most of the great 70s rockers were by the early 90s tbh.
0 likesI think when you bring up manifest destiny without mentioning the displacement of native Americans it actually highlights the episode’s greatest oversight, an oversight that comes from the episode writer’s (John Swarzwelder’s) personal politics of right-libertarianism: that individuals don’t and can never represent and/or embody a nation’s collective problems, when the problem is the nation itself.
3 likesNotice the only people with the most likes have check marks next to their names? This is exactly what would drive Frank Grimes crazy.
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Damn right
1 likeJust because they're popular and thus wealthy? Grimes hated Homer because Homer was also dangerously incompetent and got him in trouble for saving Homer's life. His misfortune angered him too much to coldly document his vs Homer's achievements and deliver that to Burns with a prospect of making more money by cutting down on accidents among other things. Unfortunately the status quo would require an amusing series of events to restore it at the end.
0 likeswhat a great video thank you so much.
1 likeR.i.P. Frank "Grimey" Grimes
0 likesAs I was reminiscing to the simpsons, noticing the mario back track. I thought to myself; Am I the target audience for this video? There's a lot of back track, but then I'd thought about the concept and decided, no. They couldn't be so desperate to target me through click bait and then add a back loop of nostalgia to the then there abouts 90's just to placate me. .. Or are they really that desperate for views?
0 likesAnimation isn’t a genre. It’s an art form, just like film. Animation can cover genres all the way from kid friendly Saturday morning schlock to high stake old westerns, to dark and disturbing psychedelic horror trips. “Action adventure” is a genre. Animation is so much more than that.
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suuure
0 likesThe word you're thinking of is "medium". Film is a medium, animation is another medium.
0 likes@Deadliest Vice No I meant Art form that's why I wrote "Art Form". Medium is just a synonym for Art form and vice versa. Honestly, did you think I was going to thank you for telling ME what I meant?
0 likes@low_rez_ Yes. I also take checks.
0 likesNed's freak-out was in the same season
1 likeThis is Truthiracy3 Levels of under/overstanding analysis. I love it. Subscribed.
0 likesThe amount of times I have heard tf2's soundtrack in your vids is great lmao
1 likeIs there a good analysis on Seasons 9-12 (the slow decline where you still had great quality at moments)?
0 likesAwesome video👍👍Thank you!!
0 likesTo have someone try to explain a cartoon is ridiculous!🤪🤪🤪😂😂😂
0 likesAhh takes me back to the days of VSauce.
0 likesWhat's weird My father's name is Frank Grimes
1 likeTechnically, there is one single person on earth who has no one more fortunate than them, and one single person who has no one less fortunate.
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I wonder if there’s an objective scale of fortune we could use to determine that
0 likesYou should do a "There will never be another motorsport like Group B"
0 likesJokes on you, because I am colorblind and light green simpsons still appear yellow to me.
0 likesI have not watch the simpsons for the best part of 2 decades. I will properly never get back into it. But if it were to stop I would but upset and outraged lol
0 likesI feel like my brain just expanded 3 sizes
0 likes'Life in Hell' was syndicated in free weekly newspapers across the country. Those papers are where the first Simpsons strips appeared.
0 likesAll this video did was make me miss Vsauce
0 likesI've never seen a full episode of the simpsons in my life. Why did I watch this?
0 likesWelp, you should analyzed the crap out of The Simpsons, huh? That's cool haha
0 likes"why do we like homer simpson"
1 likeMe: fat man funny
there will Never Ever be another Youtuber like EmpLemon.
0 likesWhat about... Homer’s Odyssey?
1 likegreat analysis!
0 likesMy uncle and and mom would say that they had the best time in the x generation cuz they got cars from there dad a nice home
1 likeI born from a gen x got none of that (always stalked by 5 0 no love poor mom wasn't surprised hearing about the doomer generation worst of all white guys being racist to me cuz I'm bi racial 1/2 black mom I realized by the time I was five realized people wanted me to play a certain stereotype role I wouldn't do and wasn't like for that in trouble by teachers cuz I disagree about that I have too be a Democrat cuz my grandpa was a black republican I only know how to survive
22:25-24:25 mind blown
1 like"Responsible and virtuous role models" zooms in on Bill Cosby
4 likesSkip to about 14:30 to get to the point
0 likesThis is a fantastic video man. I don't need to see anything else subbed
0 likesTL:DR there will never be another good Simpsons episode ever
1 likeThe 90s = Simpsons Era
0 likesThe Early 2000's = Spongebob Era
Wonder what the next Era of memes that will take the world by storm.
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60s = Monty Python
0 likes7:44 Ok so this is dumb and nit-picky, but maybe animation is associated with children because people think that it's a GENRE in which only SPECIFIC stories are told, rather than a MEDIUM through which ANY story could be told.
0 likesLet me know when there is never another simpsons episode. They milked that dead cow 25 years ago
0 likes16:18 when the auto brightness kicks in
0 likesThat Gran Turismo 4 music still hits hard.
0 likesFuck those were the times
The destroyer prospers, the creator is destroyed
0 likesbrilliant. i know why yellow. its called corn.
0 likesCongratulations on 200 videos!
0 likesthe real jims so goated
0 likesHow can laissez-faire be an American ideal, when no American can even pronounce laissez-faire properly. It's not 'lah-zay fair'.
0 likes18:10
1 likeTimestamp for me
man heres hoping for a "there will Never Ever be another animator like Kitty0706"
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Man, I miss Kitty0706
0 likesBut Marge the framerate!
0 likesIs there a reason images of Bart Simpson that are not on television shows him wearing the light blue shirt instead of the reddish orange shirt seen on television?
0 likesOh, it's my favorite creator: Best Guy Ever, from VSauce.
0 likes2:57 I heard Magnum Force kick in! Where's Sniper?
0 likesI watched all of this and I've never watched the simpsons
0 likesthat was the most confusion intro I've seen
0 likesI'm really tired of people crediting The Simpsons for what Married With Children did.
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Didn't they come out at the same time?
0 likesSo Matt Groening is now worth 600 million dollars, yet somehow the world is unfair and the "American Dream" is dead. Not for the creator of the Simpsons. This is true mockery in it's finest form. Groening produces this edgy, badly drawn cartoon and gets rich on a character, that if he existed in real life, would probably be under a bridge doing drugs, not working for a nuclear energy company and raising a family. Then we have this discord narrator saying the American Dream is dead, over analyzing and that you will work hard all your life and lose, that all life is unfair. Groening obviously worked hard and put some serious effort into his creation for it to be so successful, it could have failed in it's first year and died out. Groening proved the American Dream can still come true, and failure isn't inevitable. He made you live in the cartoon world, yet he worked harder than Frank Grimes.
0 likesSimpsons Season 1. Good luck with your seizures.
0 likes40:00 I know for a fact that you used 15.ai, I recognize those broken tf2 voices anywhere
0 likesDont you have to be a 1000 to have watched the simpsons
0 likesGood video :)
1 likeOutstanding video
0 likesAt 6:27 seconds... are those little dudes inspiration for Vip and Vap from Disenchanted?
0 likes33:24 Google, iPhone, Minecraft, Harambe and Tik Tok - the great inventions of the 21st century.
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Neuralink?
0 likesHarambe was not an invention of the 21st century. Almost but not quite.
0 likes'Spitting Image' was constantly 'referencing and parodying other media' from around 1982 onward. It was a national sensation in the UK. 'The Simpsons' was not the first to do this. I'm tempted to add 'Monty Pythons Flying Circus from 20 years earlier, but it's before my time.
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Think there was a lot of hyperbole in this video but that’s pretty typical of YouTube content now
0 likes"Referencing and parodying other media" isn't the same as "parodying and satirizing culture and status quo". Had Spitting Image be as successful as The Simpsons i would've gotten worldwide popularity, but evidently it did not. There's always a reason something becomes a hit, merely existing or even being "the first" isn't enough.
0 likes@Deadliest Vice I have no idea why you type that. 'Spitting Image' had huge impact. It has been identified as one of the reason Apartheid fell in South Africa. Reason? For young white South Africans, it exposed their cultural isolation and ridiculed the regime. See 'I've never met a nice South African'. You will be aware, that once a very 'hip' and current form of satire has passed it's 'moment', it dies completely and utterly? Yes? Another example would be 'That Was The Week That Was' or even 'Rowan & Martin's Laugh In'. Both before I was born. Also, when you say 'i[t] would've gotten worldwide popularity' I'd suggest you misunderstand international telecommunications media and the impact of deregulation and 'cable'. The Simpsons was a Fox product. Fox had the capacity to deliver things internationally. Spitting Image was sold independently. I'm unclear you take this into account. Next time, take a very quick peek at Wiki before you type, it could save some time. I've not counted, but it looks like it has something like 40-50 international adaptions and as for 'impact' we see...'According to Avalon Television executive producer Jon Thoday, Ronald Reagan directly contacted NBC, asking for the show to be cancelled.[18]' Cheers.
0 likes@Connor Ha. Yes. You often get the impression you are reading an undergraduate essay when the student is somewhat overstating their case. Good effort though. Lots of valid points made after the over long introduction.
1 likeyou should do a never ever on tf2
0 likes3:33 Snipers a good job mate....
0 likes16:09 to be unable to count to 11
1 likeThe sense of history from the 80s is skewed so bad you clearly have little actual knowledge of the time period.
0 likesSo, the Simpsons here are green...
0 likesBecause they just are.
If anyone is wondering what Licorice Pizza is, it was a record store in Socal back in the 80's when I as teen, it was sold to musicland I believe and not sure what happened next.
0 likeslol I was playing Smash and recognized the song from Mario Odyssey. I thought it was coming from smash on Smashville so I paused the video haha Song slaps hard though for real
1 likeanyone know the music drop at13:33 ? I feel like it's metroid or something.
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I'm an idiot... mario 64.... found the music list in the desc.
3 likesSpecifically bowsers level theme, before the boss fight
0 likesLaissez-fair is pronounced lay-say fair. Not la-say fair
0 likeswhat game track is it when they transition to season 8 at 13:41? this is killing me
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mario 64 dungeons!
1 like@Timothy Babich Omg thank you for answering your own question!
0 likesIs this video too similar to the "Te lo resumo" or I am crazy?
0 likesUSA is probably one of the most unequal country in the western world, yet the video comes to the conclusion midways that the solution is just to stop caring about equality and fairness and adopt the "laissez-faire" way of thinking that created the inequality in the first place. Or maybe did I get the reasoning wrong ? But it's such a weird take when you think about the BLM and lgbt equality movements that have stirred up the country for months now.
1 likeNot criticizing the opinion, but I feel like it should have been better developed and justified, especially since it is build around the example of a tv show and not the real world.
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Americans really have taken the Red Pill that change is impossible in the 1980s while Social Democracy was steamrolling Europe with Positive Change at the same time, they dont deserve better at this point
0 likes@atur chomicz this is just a negative way of thinking, change is always possible
1 likeAh yes, Hell On Earth, Los Angeles
0 likesStop CHANGING Yellow To Green
0 likesBill Cosby... a roll model. Yea..... lets go with that ....
0 likesYou’re a quite a bit off bud. I’m gen x. We were babies if even born during Vietnam and Nixon. We moreso witnessed the failure of Carter and the homogeneous nature of Reaganism - punctuated by the spectacle of the first gulf war and the economic malaise of the early 90s, into the optimism and future forward nature of the late 90s/early 00s.
0 likesIve lived in LA for a couple years.
0 likesLA is hell. So is SF where I currently live.
there will Never Ever be another video game like Minecraft
0 likesor there will Never Ever be another anarchy server like 2b2t
Gran Turismo music in this video makes me exceedingly moist.
0 likesWtf YouTube unsubbed me and i missed this one
0 likeswhy is there 13:30 of padding before the subject in the video is discussed?
0 likesSHOUT OUT TO MISSION HILL!
0 likesThis video is longer than the episode....
0 likesThis only "aired" cause we have worse entertainment avenues than we've had before, shame on you for capitalising on something that you'd cared about to gain click baits and interlocked into sell out position.
0 likeswhen all you want is to introduce a better entertainment platform than you've had before. < ? :The simpsons was beyond you, and you don''t even understand it enough to critique it, but (BTW) you sit while expecting a pay check. -(AND) I don't know you but shame through, to capitalise off an already established cartoon entertainment channel.BUT clearly, where's this going.
On a side note: Mission Hill was a dope show.
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hell yes dude I still love it!
1 likeTo quote a conversation from criminally underrated character from a criminally underrated movie, that perfectly summarizes the downfall of the Simpsons: "Well, well, well. Devil's Night is upon us again. Figured we'd throw a little party, start a bunch of fires, make a little profit. Problem is: it's all been done before."
4 likes"That's no reason to quit!"
"Wrong. That's the best reason to quit. The only reason to quit. A man has an idea. The idea attracts others, like-minded. The idea expands. The idea becomes an institution. What was the idea? That's what's been bothering me, boys. I tell ya: when I used to think of the idea itself, it put a big ol' smile on my face. You see gentlemen, greed is for amateurs. Disorder. Chaos. Anarchy. Now that's fun!"
"What about Devil's Night?"
"What about it? I started the first fires in this goddamn city. Before I knew it, every charlatan and shitheel was imitating me. You know what they got now? Devil's Night greeting cards. Isn't that precious? The idea has become the institution, boys. Time to move on."
>31:44
0 likes>actually happened
:^)
Dude I literally check YouTube every single day and go straight to my subscriptions praying that you have uploaded. It’s like Christmas for me when I see a new EmpLemon video
6 likesHere's a question I have:
3 likesIf simpsons ended on season 8, would disney bring it back?
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Look what they did with Star Wars. Probably
0 likes@Funky Chunky Meh Star Wars was already damaged before Disney with the two garbage prequels. At least it's getting better with things like the Mandalorian and Clone Wars season seven. (Except that garbage arc with the SJW sisters.)
0 likesHomer Simpson and Frank grimes are two sides of the same American coin
9 likeswhen I watched this episode for the first time as a kid, it really stuck with me.
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@Calum Tatum I’ve known people like Homer and I’ve known people like Grimes and I don’t want to be like any of them. I think a great way to live life is to find the perfect balance between the both of them, to be happy where are you are in life but also want to strive for more.
2 likesi think before people watch homer's enemy they need to watch homer's odyssey. i married marge and maggie makes three plus homer's barbershop quartet the way we was and for context mother simpson....puts in perspective homer's character..you like him better..
0 likesI feel like if emplemon took acid he would talk his head off. like his stories would go so far off the track that you would wonder what the hell even brought up the conversation.
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dude drugs no way
0 likesMy mom really identifies with Frank, but I've grown apposed to chasing success for success's sake, but rather as a means to support a worthy cause.
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I’ve always greatly appreciated the quote, “A voyage spent looking forward is a wasted trip”. (Drove my family crazy!)
0 likesWhat is the music at 18:50?
1 like"Homer, Simpson, and the Queen of England."
19 likesAh yes, the famous trio.
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*Mickey
5 likesI went to the doctors complaining about loss of hearing.
13 likesShe asked me to describe the symptoms.
I said Homer's a fat bald guy, Marge has blue hair, Bart rides a skateboard, Lisa plays the sax, and Maggie is a baby.
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Nice
1 likeYa know, Canadians are also Americans
0 likesWe could call this the Squidward Effect.
22 likesdidn't know we had a vsause 4
1 likeis rusty smol or emp tall
0 likesthats right emplemon specified that the simpsons is the longest running AMERICAN show... thats because japan has a show thats been running for way longer Sazae-san
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Has someone made a hour-long video about that?
4 likesSazae-san's approach is really interesting, both families don't seem to age but The Simpsons decided to make episodes about modern/relevant things while Sazae-san is still stuck in the old japan times, makes one think what could the Simpsons look like nowadays if they were still set in the 90's.
12 likesI love Sazae-san!
3 likesNever ever will there be another first anything
0 likeswhy does this video use the menu music from Gran Turismo 4?
0 likesEmpLemon, or as he liked to be called "limey".
34 likesLiving in the uk and only ever seeing s3-s9 multiple times on live tv i wondered why they were the only ones we see. Now i get it.
7 likesNow that I think about it, it is probably the main reason I see Americans the way they are stereotyped.
Is that Gran Turismo bg music?
1 like"We've run out of oceans to cross" sweats while looking at mars
66 likesB!DEN is finishing the WALL......LOL!
0 likesI see you covered Cosby in this but left out Matt's repeated trips on a certain airplane owned by certain someone who didn't kill himself.
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Groening was on the list too? Well, can't say that I'm surprised.
0 likesyeah, Matt and his toenails
0 likesI’d say king of the hill is a “normal” family with a crazy surroundings, just straight forwardness vs political correctness
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It succeeded at The Simpsons' original intention of "trying to make you forget you are watching a cartoon" better than The Simpsons did. It never insulted its audience, it never bought into the neoliberal agenda, and it ended at the right time.
4 likes13:35
0 likesMario 64 music?
When EmpLemon posts, Its a good day
4 likesAs an English person I completely agree that the queen is nothing more than a symbol at this point.
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A very expensive one
1 likeThe spiffing Brit enters chat
0 likesThe spiffing Brit is typing
A Google search can tell you that.
0 likesIDK, like. Get out of the nineties man.
0 likes4:53 That graph looks like Peter Griffin with a wizard's hat.
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nyehehehe
0 likeslike that popular phase: or you die as a hero or you live long enough to become the vilain
3 likesA comment for those who heard Gran Turismo under tones
0 likes36:33 One piece and south park are still creative, amazing, and have everything what made it's peak special even after more than 20 years airing. The creators still have a passion for the show
3 likes"The only thing that is for sure about emplemon is nothings for sure."
77 likesCame expecting simpsons fun facts left with insight on my life and how I choose to live it
3 likesIt's perfectly sane and reasonable to become obsessed with exposing the incompetence of the safety inspector at the nuclear plant you work in.
3 likesSnoipeh music detected. 3:00
0 likesDavid MURKIN 🤣
0 likes15:21 Interesting, as William H. Macy himself was conceived to resemble none other than Ned Flanders.
25 likes''Don't cry for me, I'm already dead'' - Simpsons 1995
13 likesHow is it that when he said "he had to enter hell" I instantly knew he was going to say LA
8 likesHomer's job is literally to just be an idiot while his boss cuts corners in order to gain more wealth.. he is the butt of the joke and his character is not reflective of the apathy or ability for the middle class to exploit the US... he is literally a joke against the rich and powerful. Any other meaning you are drawing on it is potentially over-blown and unfounded. Grimes represents the actuality and hard work that is required to exist and Homer is the antithesis, not because he is apathetic to the financial or materialistic situation around him.. but because he is a pawn of the rich to get richer while (potentially) the rest of the world literally explodes.
1 likegood movie
0 likes"But before that, Matt Groening will have to experience Hell..."
19 likesdramatically pans over to Los Angelos
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Where's the lie?
1 likeI was originally planning to write a comment about how potentially disingenuous the section "Life is Unfair" is in its justification of political passivity on the grounds of the unattainability of complete equality (which is a clearly flawed argument, specially in its equation of chance misfortunes with social inequality), but the juxtaposition of the graph of SAT scores by race and the spiel about the inevitability of inequality point to a much deeper problem in the outlook driving this video which makes me extremely suspicious that any comment would ultimately fall in death ears.
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@G. Neves I like to think of it as a (I’ll use the word “critique” even though it’s probably wrong) on the attitude held by people who push for governmental action on social inequality, though NOT a critique of governmental action in itself. Emp, unlike most who deny/abide by social inequality, doesn’t tend to focus on the logistics of social inequality; even when the logistics of social inequality are present in his videos, it’s framed very genuinely around the attitudes of those who favor governmental action towards social inequality rather than the governmental action itself.
0 likesEmp has his own biases, and I’d be lying if I said I took his word as gospel. But he does provide insight as to the general rationale held by (I’ll leave it as “someone who is undecided or against governmental action against social inequality”). But given his video on Jimmy Kimmel, and the fact that he once called out a YouTuber but then APOLOGIZED, strongly points me toward the authenticity of his “life is unfair” section.
I personally believe that his “life is unfair” thesis is genuine. Perhaps misguided, and his SAT graph isn’t the best example for the point he is trying to prove; I think his rationale is one that thinks social inequality issues are purely legal in cause, when they are that and many other things; particularly culturally, and systemically (whether intentional or not).
But this belief (that systemic oppression/inequality is purely legal) is a commonly held, GENUINE, misconception. I speak as one who used to hold that belief myself. From what I can tell, he doesn’t think he’s justifying political passivity; he thinks political ACTION is unnecessary, something that has been “achieved” to the best of its abilities, and that continued support of political action is now counterintuitive to humans being self-sufficient. And while I agree that IF political action had a “point of finality”, where developments would not be effective and/or be counterintuitive to people being self-sustaining, that some (though CERTAINLY not all) people would probably still continue to push for political action for their own self-interest, I, unlike those under the aforementioned misconception (which again, possibly includes Emp), would NOT agree with the idea that social activism has “reached” a point where “if you’re still suffering from the issues created by social inequality you’re just not trying hard enough”
Sorry for the essay.
Now to write a better, more concise comment, someone who misunderstands the nature of social inequality is perfectly capable of misattributing prevalent social inequality as ‘evidence that meritocracy is conceptually flawed and/or not pragmatic’.
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