I think before even attempting to reform Tirek, we would need to know more about his family and his relationship with them. Itโs possible that his dad isnโt a bad person and that he just failed to show Tirek that he loved and valued him.
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Saadi Alsaadi2021-04-14 12:14:28 (edited 2021-04-14 12:14:45 )
You know, I actually see your point in this, " never judge someone without knowing the whole story"
I just realized Spoiled Rich might have had her Cutie Mark changed cosmetically, it used to be spilled milk, literally. Her maiden name (I think?) was Milk. Spoiled Milk.
Her name was spoiled milk, but her cutie mark has stayed the same. During the episode "Where the apple lies" in season 6, you can see a young spoiled rich (then called spoiled milk bc she was filthy rich's fiance at the time) and she had the exact same cutie mark as she has now.
@forg I've looked back at that episode and saw that but I have this weird memory of seeing her in some flashback scene in an episode I can't find with spilled milk for a cutie mark.
@forg Actually now that I think about it, it may have been my brain mixing up memories or something because I just realized the spilled milk Cutie Mark was actually in those episodes where Starlight ruled that village like a communist leader.
@RayzerSun I think her name is meant to show that she's one of the spoiled brats/high class of the pony world. Other than from that I don't think so. I think her talent has something to do with making jewelry, or using it in some way. She could be good at selling jewelry maybe. It could also be beauty, like a cosmetologist or a make up artist or in costume design. I don't think a pony would receive a cutie mark representing a talent for marrying rich, but I guess it could be another meaning of her cutie mark or that could be the actual meaning of it. I would hope not though.
@Shuki shell kind of be like that one Griffin what's her name Gilda or something? Whatever so Gilda didn't even have a cutie mark she's still helped with the cutie Mark crusaders same with babs seed
Iโd never knew about Tirekโs family and his goal to prove himself, but this could mean something new. If one centaur alone is powerful enough to cause a lot of damage all over equestria, then imagine an entire civilization of centaurs. And we would meet King Vorak as well, I think this would be a good finale or premiere for season 10, but, the series is over now...
Chrisalias: friendship isnโt the disease itโs the cure Cozy glow: power will only leave you empty Diamond Tierra: and if thatโs the path someone has chosen for you then make your own path itโs on them to accept you, if they do thatโs great but even if they donโt you can always count on your back
What I see here is the exact same situation weโve seen before. Weโve seen this with chrisalys, seeing her family, her warriors turned soft. Thatโs what drove her away in the first place. Meaning this could backfire. Not only will the sight of his former comrades reformed revolt Terek it will also make chrysalis see she has become what drove her into seeking revenge in the first place. I do think the theory is a thought but I donโt see it working, hope this advice makes some sense, ๐โ๏ธ.
And now I am the 69th reply. Nice me. Oh, and I don't think that Diamond Tiara can reform Sombra at all. There is also no way she could have reformed Discord, Tempest Shadow, Starlight Glimmer (okay, that one's a maybe), or Stygian. And in no universe can she reform any of the other MLP villains.
your daily dose of anxiety you know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek besides Diamond Tiara? his brother Scorpan because remember in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and become friends with the ponies (all kinds including the princesses too)
Twilight : howโฆHOW DOES A SIMPLY FILLY LIKE YOU SLOVE TWO OF THE MOST DANGEROUS VILLANS IN ALL EQUESTRIAN, REFORM THEM AND IS STILL NOT HURT! Diamond tiara : wellโฆ.it was a hour you know? Twilight : It was? Oh yeah BUT STILL
I have an idea for a video! The backstory of changelings, and I have a small theory that could help? Idk Maybe they looked like/were normal ponies, but after Queen Chrysalis, or whatever pony she used to be, had a grudge against the rulers of ponyville/wherever they used to live, and started a war. Soon the Rulers decided they should be banished, and transformed them in the process. They started learning how to use a special type of magic that the new changelings would know, the power of transformation. The holes in the unreformed changelings represent the love they lost, and when they were reformed, those holes were filled. This is a BIG stretch but maybe, just maybe it could work?
Itโs kinda sweet how his form of redemption is finding others that will accept him for him. In the comics, Tirekโs parents were aware of his gift with magic, but rather than to encourage him or even help him with it, his father only belittle and pushed his son aside, doing nothing to help his rebellious nature. Meanwhile Scorpan was treated like a favored child by both his parents. Something like that obviously would effect anyone well into adulthood, and I think having his only two allies (Chrysalis and Cozy) express their appreciation, just knowing his not ALONE, could be what starts his redemption.
So, basically, Tirek is the MLP version of Zuko. Going on a very self damaging journey in an attempt to gain the approval and love of a father figure that may or may not be able to give it to them.
Tiffany Tang, that involves a portal that only opens every two years.
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Dark Cyan2020-09-10 15:07:49 (edited 2020-09-10 15:09:49 )
I don't think Starlight could reform Cozy Glow. Diamond Tiara and possibly a reformed Suri Polomare are the only ones who could possibly actually understand her. Starlight can't relate to Cozy Glow at all. Cozy's issue is her fundamental outlook on life and other people. You need people who've also seen others as tools, and Starlight always thought she was doing things to make other people's lives better.
Chrysalis and Pharynx absolutely. Pharynx wouldn't even give her a friendship speech as more as a cold hard slap of reality. Because her issue is pride, denial and blame.
But there's only one pony who could possibly reform Tirek. And it's reformed Cozy Glow. Because Tirek actually has a sense of honor. He's the least evil of the three as a person. But his biggest obstacle is trust. Tempest or Luna could possibly relate to him, but they would never trust each other. But Tirek already trusts Cozy Glow.
OMG Yessss Luna could say how she wished for more respect amongst the ponies got herself banished and came back trying to be better and Sunset could share how she stole a crown from a distant world for power but instead of gaining popularity for being powerful she became lonely as she was turning into a vile being
Fizzlebop Berrytwist (aka; Tempest Shadow) would be great at Reforming villains especially Cozy Glow. She would in a small way also be good for reforming Chrysalis!
@Thew0ffan I agree especially because Sawtooth thinks King Vorak is like Spoiled Rich which isn't the case. True we only see King Vorak in the books that are non Cannon but that's the only thing we can go off of to understand who King Vorak is. In the book he's benevolent and doesn't think absorbing power from everyone in Equestria is good. In fact when one of the citizens brings back a Pony and starts absorbing its magic, Vorak essentially sent that citizen to prison, so jt's more like he's trying to prove to his father that he can be a strong King in the future, it's just that his father doesn't accept his methods.
Honestly, when Tirek was first introduced, i thought he could be like a good prison guard, taking magic when they enter and giving it back as they leave, and also the strength. Instead of getting weak if he gives too much back though, the princesses or someone can give him enough magic to stay big, although not all of theres.
"There's one more person who would understand his struggle perfectly" Me: Luna ofc, she also tried to prove her worth and went too far with powe- "Diamond tiara"
I legit thought that it was gonna be luna as well because:
1. Both luna and tirek felt betrayed/Beneath their siblings 2. Both had been sealed away through their sibling's actions 3.both had sought after power but were defeated by the elements of harmony ( I know that's like every villain except sambra and crysalis but you get the idea )
@Pacific Painter is he serious?! Diamond tiara again don't get me wrong I have no problem with that but what about sunset shimmer she could do it or tirek friends who's name I've forgotten
@Red Alert I dunno how sunset shimmer could relate to teirek enough for him to reform other than she was the same as twilight in the beginning thinking that friendship is useless
Pacific Painter Well sunset want to power and want to rule Equestria but then but sheโs different now and tirek wants the same power to I mean think about it
I think sunset shimmer just think of it: In her song my past is not today her first line was: โPower was all I desiredโ Tirek wanted that power just like sunset shimmer I think that sheโs a better example but diamond tiara is also an amazing example!
Honestly Luna did seal him in stone sooooooo I think it would be best first with diamond tiara and his frenemies and THEN with Luna so it would be less; โyOu sEaLeD mEh iN sToNe aNd nOw yOu wAnT mE tOo lEaRn tHiS cRaB?!?!โ
in a different world the key to informing him is Lunar (the pony no the member if the krew) because in both cases they both had a bit of darkness in line with them except one decided to keep it hidden and use it for good well the other used it to take control 3 times only to be inprisoned each time
With Lunar her parents brought her up to be dark and to use our powers for manipulation and Power however it's not what she truly wanted what however it's not what she truly wanted and it was only expressed when she was with her siblings but she didn't know how she could settle this debate but once realizing one of her sisters was what was keeping her this way keeping her from not destroying the world she realized she could do this all the time and when doing so she got a pair of wings and of course she's fully not out of the darkness yet because when she does something nice sometimes darkness follows like one time she was in the middle of thanking her siblings for helping her and was in the middle of tying somebody Up at the same time if this works for her it can really work for him all we need is her to explain her experience and see how they connect however since the character was taken from the krew and reinvented into a character's OC this really happen but here are some actual candidates that could possibly reform him Trixie, Starlight, Sunset, chrysalis and cozy, diamond tiara, his brother, the pony of Shadows ( not the one that was put back into imprisonment but the one that was taken out of it), Princess Luna, and Tempest shadow are the only ones in a real show that could be the key to his Reformation however in the O. C world Lunar is a good person for the job.
Why not have her help Diamond Tiara in reforming Tirek, have her help Ferynx redeem Chrysalis, and have her team up with another character like idk flurry heart to redeem cozy glow.
to be fair, there's a distinct difference between why Luna and Tirek turned evil. Luna didn't turn into Nightmare moon because she had a parent to live up to, but because she was overshadowed by her sister.
Well, Tirek knows Luna at least to an extent he has also posed a big threat to the sisters before, that's why they gave up their magic to twilight. Luna could play a role if Diamond Tiara felt insecure about reforming Tirek but luna wouldn't be the key
i just remembered the name of this channel, i remember watching your videos 6 years ago. this channel was my childhood, and it honestly makes me happy that youโre still making them. i loved these growing up and itโs one of the reasons i like making theories for shows. if i hadnโt watched these vids growing up i would definitely be a different person now
Okay, I have a set design for my favorite bean of my newest generation becoming a pony, but I have yet to figure out his name. His name is Kostado, nicknamed Songbird because of the fact that he was the first to talk in his litter, his very talkative personality as a young shifter, the fact he absolutely loves music, and the fact he can mimic any sound or voice. I did decide to give him a MLP design, so I could make him into a customized MLP figure. I have his design sketched out and colored, but I have yet to give him a proper name. To explain his origin in the smallest way possible, he was chosen to be a prince at birth, born mostly as a shapeshifter but slightly werewolf. He is also mostly angel, with a hint of demon. When he can control himself, he is the kindest, and most mature when looking after family. He plays villain for a while, to gain the trust of his grandfather, though he ends up being a victim most of his life, from pup to adult. He also goes insane when consuming one of the many things he is allergic to, becoming a true, hyper-evolved, villain until given a bit of narcan. He is also highly intelligent, yet he struggles to find how to be a true pup or have fun, and even understanding himself. He absolutely hates blood and the thought of hurting someone. Please, suggest names for him that fit the theme. His cutiemark is a treble clef followed by a smaller quarter note and eighth note.
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Apple S2020-08-09 13:25:47 (edited 2020-08-09 13:28:51 )
I was kind of surprised. Doesn't he have a brother? you didn't mention him. I mean as someone to help with the reforming. Scorpan has the same dad (presumably) and would relate to his struggles.
Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^ Though the Diamond Tiara angle has potential, I think that Sunset Shimmer might be a better match for Tirek. In his youth, Tirek has a rebellious nature and a thirst for power, something that worries his father, King Vorak. One day, Tirek's mentor in magic, Sendak, kidnaps a unicorn to drain his magic. However, Tirek betrays Sendak and tries to take the power for himself. Tirek's attempt fails, so he sneaks back home. King Vorak finds Sendak and the captive unicorn, sentences Sendak to the mines, and returns the unicorn to Equestria with an apology. Tirek denies any involvement, but Vorak doesn't believe him and basically grounds him. Tirek vows to overthrow his father and rule Equestria, not knowing what the future has in store for him. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? A spiteful, ambitious youth rebelling against a concerned parent figure in their quest for power. Someone willing to take by force what they didn't deserve. Someone who eventually fell to the power of harmony and the magic of friendship.
The difficulty with Tirek is that he had someone like that, someone really close who couldn't get to him; his own brother. I don't think Diamond Tiara could pass that barrier if his brother couldn't
Honestly, I don't think simple encouragement would be enough here. While having the others in the trio help is useful, I don't think Tirek is likely to change without having to directly confront his family. Perhaps what would happen is more of a Tirek escapes and tries to steal a tooon of magic, perhaps from the crystal empire. This of course, is thwarted by his old friends. Tirek returns defeated to the place where he began, which happens to coincide with the ponies bringing friendship there.
Together, Crysalis and Cozy almost accomplish a task that Tirec was never able to complete, and with much less magic than Tirek ever had. At this point, Tirek stands up for his former allies, making them allies again. THEN Diamond Tiara can do her thing.
@Annie is Inactive Nooo!!! How their internal organ are distributed, are newborns capable of walking hours after birth and how...Tirek's father had children with a Gargoyle woman. Yeah...
I feel like Flurry Heart could have some way to help Tirek reform. After all, she was born an alicorn princess, representing the love to a caregiver. Tirek is someone who wants to please his "parental figure" but Flurry Heart can show him that King Vorak doesn't have Tirek's best interests in mind. Flurry Heart can show him the "family" that is there for him. She can show him who is really there for him. Of course, this with the help of Diamond Tiara. I just felt like Flurry Heart could possibly have some way in helping.
Actually, I would be willing to believe that his brother could help and that he is confused as to what his father wants. His father may simply just wanted his sons to retrieve the magic of friendship and Scorpan got it, while Tirek did not. Kind of like how Celestia told Twilight that she needed to make friends. But Twilight was blinded by her original goal.
Nightmare Moon: Reformed Discord: Reformed Starlight Glimmer: Reformed Tempest Shadow: Reformed Stygian: Reformed Chrysalis: Plan for Reformation Cozy Glow: Plan for Reformation Tirek: Plan for Reformation
Let's not forget Sunset as well.
A Long List of Reformed or Planned Reformed Villains/Anti-Hero/Antagonists later...
@Lily that's the Human World's own issue. And yes I had to include "long list of villains reformed later " Because if I mentioned every single one of them it would be too boring
@Shadic Midnight Blitzer True like Juniper Montage, Wallflower. But Sunset was a more important part. U should have put her on. I understand if u don't want too.
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@Dark Warrior whether he's dead or not he's one of the villains that was instantly given no mercy compared to Chrysalis where Starlight tried to help her change as well only for her to swat her hoof away
You can't really kill Sombra, his spirit still resides in The North, it'll just be an endless cycle of him gaining enough power to return and then getting beaten back by harmony every thousand years or so, eventually he'll win, you can't have an unbeatable, unrelenting villain coming back every millennium indefinitely without him seizing power.
@Stark Solutions Well, the show: he is depicted to be banished to the North once, shattered by the elements of harmony the second time, and yet he was able to return in full force, yes with the help of Discord, but he would've eventually been able to regain his power over the course of a long period of time like the first time.
@Soil Dude, he basically returned twice, but uh, he was destroyed by the Crystal Heart, and then by the Magic of Friendship, not the Elements 'cause he destroyed them. The first he came back, he wasn't at full force, he was weakened. And in the second and final, he was in full body. And no, he was killed by the most powerful magic of all, no banning spell or Crystal magic.
@Stark Solutions Well, if he can still come back after being shattered, then I think it's fair to say his spirit still resides in the north, and as long as there's a spirit, his return is indefinite.
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Stark Solutions2020-08-17 18:40:05 (edited 2020-08-17 18:48:36 )
@Soil Pure speculation. There is no proof that there is a spirit of his residing in the north. I was going to say this is headcannon, but it sounds more like fanfic. That's because he "came" back under Discord's ressurrection ritual, not on his own. And also, you can't say this is fair because, once dead, his spirit went into a place Discord described as: "black pit", or "vanished into the Ether", which is something Rariry mentioned, which means: killed. Just makes no sense your point, since his last defeat was in Canterlot, his soul is along with his body and The CE is protected by the Crystal Heart.
โ@Stark Solutions Whatever, It's been made clear that neither of us are going to change their position on the matter, and I don't feel much like continuing this conversation, so fare thee well.
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Stark Solutions2020-08-18 06:21:18 (edited 2020-08-18 06:22:00 )
@Stark Solutions Hey, hey, just between you and me, I bet firebarrier was just salty and wanted to end the conversation cuz they knew you were right- ๐๐ ๐โจโจ
Honestly, I think Trixie might be able to reform Tirek as well. She sought power to make others respect her, but found that she could be adored (or accepted) without the need for power.
Even though people are memeing about how Diamond Tiara is like the princess of reforming villains, I feel like she really deserves to become the Princess of Forgiveness
She's a bully filly and bullies can't ever change I know I've been bullied my whole school life only starlight can reform tirek both of them can relate to each other
In all honesty I don't think tirek could be reformed, he'll just steal the magic from Diamond Tiara and then another rampage, he's too much of a risk and might be best to leave in stone. Some people can't be reformed and that's just real life, that's the lesson we learned from the last episode while I can see cg and qc being reformed I think trying to reform tirek is a lost cause, it's like trying to reform Ted bundy by throwing him back in the world
I have one question when someone gets turned into stone do they really become stone? Or do they have a stone coating around them that keeps them in place?
I read the Feindship is Magic special comic series, and the Tirek one did put a decent amount of emphasis on his relationship with his father. I lit it a while ago, but I remember I really liked it.
Honestly, Tirek was the only one of the 4 villains summoned at the start of Season 9 that I never imagined a redemption. Regardless, he could very well have been enough to be the final boss absorbing the magic of the other villains. What especially disappointed me with him in Season 9 (apart from being the victim of the final punishment which is admittedly justified, but which gives the impression that Discord and StarLight have preferential treatment) is that his brother did not appear.
hmmmmm i think is best to dimant teyara to make them good and she was want to make this good ๐ and she is want to slow the friend ship sow Dimant teyara is want to do something good beacase all the smomone is do smothing good so she wants to good
Your theories are extremely interesting! But I do have a different opinion: Diamond Tiara may be the key to reform Lord Tirek, but so is Princess Luna. It may sounds weird, but both were hungry for power (for different reasons) and maybe Luna can help Tirek with his "toxic" relation with his father (even Luna had a "toxic" relation with her sister, if we think about it). Luna (a princess) can show Tirek (a prince, it has to be said) that friendship and love are way more valuable than trivial negative power as the mane 6 showed her thanks to the elements of harmony at the beginning of the show. This is just my theory tho, again, I really really like yours too! (sorry for bad english) :)
Upper lungs work for talking and have a heart to pump blood to the brain and most of the upper body,
Where as the lower lungs are used for more active motions like running, and the lower heart pumps blood to most of the lower body and a bit of the upper body.
The esophagus would most likely have more tubes that lead to the lower stomach (think about it like animals with three stomachs)
The small intestine would most likely be similar to a human (minus the large intestine on the upper body) and then leads from the upper stomach down and connecting with another small intestine that comes from the lower stomach leading into the large intestine and out of the anus.
TL;DR: two sets of upper organs (except for the large intestine)
Personally I believe Luna might be able to help him.She too turned to the dark side because of a lack of approval by others.In her case it were her subjects instead of a parent but still.she turned into nightmare moon because of jealousy towards her sister (that's where both could connect because they both are driven by feelings and desires they have because of a family member) and I think luna also turned evil because of a lack of approval from celestia as well.
Lol but true diamond tiara one of the princesses but would it kinda be strange because sheโs little and near villains maybe some of them would still be bad
WOAH thanks to everyone for liking it means i lot to me also princess of forgivness does sound better..... I shall edit my comment .. Unless you dont want me to?
Reforming Tirek is possible, it's just gonna be quite hard, because you know he loathed his brother Scorpan for associating with ponies, or "betrayal" as he called it. Diamond Tiara may have gone through the same parent pressure as Tirek, but the thought of the ponies being the one which caused his brother to rebel would probably still send Tirek back to his old ways.
would Tempest Shadow also be a good idea? since she stole magic from princesses just like Tirek, just to prove herself to the storm king to get her broken horn back. twilight showed her that she is still worthy and powerful even without all the magic and her lost horn.
I have a question and i would really appreciate it if you answer me. King sombra was full of tricks and plans and was always one step ahead others isn't there any chance that maybe he is still alive and with the help of actual grogar somehow survived from twilight and now is planning to revange?
I like the theory that diamond tiara can help both Cozy glow and Tirek But I think otherwise due to the fact Tirek is a strong centaur he doesnโt take crap from nobody especially discord and he can literally rip open the fabric of reality I donโt think he would listen to anybody. It would go to the point where Tirek just wouldnโt listen to anyone especially diamond tiara In fact I think Sunset Shimmer and Starlight Glimmer would be able to talk some sense into Tirek think about it since Sunset and Starlight wanted power and she did the manipulative way and they were power hungry and they would be able to relate to Tirek because the two of them of them wanted to be praised for their abilityโs by the people they looked up to Sunset with Celestia Starlight with Sunburst and Tirek with Lord Vordak and they would be able to get him to the point where he would listen after beating him in a battle and to end this off they would tell him to try fixing his mistakes and it would be hard but he would get through it and to tell his dad all the things heโs done and Sunset and Starlight would say that he would get the approval he wanted but thatโs my opinion
Diamond has not just BEEN on both sides of the coin, She's just straight up EATEN the coin! Power for power Power to impress someone who doesn't truly care Rejecting reform out of fear Knowing she feels empty and realizing friendship can fill that void Like I said, she ate the coin ;-;
sombra can be reformed using cadence and shing armor. sombra's motivations is to keep the crystal empire independent after cadence they depend on spike, twilight , shining armor, twilight and in crystalling sunburst and starlight. during his time the crystal empire was slaved because crystal ponies won't agree to that. So cadence and shining armor should handover and rule alongside sombra after reforming him.
Well if it was Luna, they would have to run into each other by chance, and one of them just invites the other to hang out with them. Actually looking back, that doesnt make sense. Plus, Luna was driven by jealousy and Tirek was driven by wanting to impress Vorak, and maybe his Scorpan wanted the same as well.
It would be a bad idea if luna reformed tirek, like what if he tricks her to set him free so he can take her magic and woopdie do all this "take over the world" again
Tirek before being reformed: Magic, magic, magic! Power, power, power! Lust for power! I want to please dear old dad! Power, power, power! I need a HUUUUUUUUGGG!
Tirek after being reformed: Back home standing in the town square Have you heard of our Lord and Savior Diamond Tiara and the word of friendship?
I love your idea that Tirek can possibly be reformed. in my opinion however, I don't find it really easy because when Discord mentioned King Vorak, Tirek got super angry while trying to blast Discord. this also shows us that King Vorak is one of the many reasons why Tirek became a villain in the first place. again, I like your idea of reforming him I just don't find it easy in universe.
Next My Little Pony movie: Diamond Tiara becomes an Alicorn Everyone: what- but what is she the princess of? Celestia: comes outta *nowhere she is the princess of.. REFORMING xD
i seriously disagree daimond is not so much of an expert well if that was how you become a princess then why starlight not a princess that's not how it works
I kinda thought starlight would be a good choice cause if we think of her past she is pretty similar to teirek I mean seeing as her only friend left and seeing as she tried to show her power and leadership to others it seems a bit similar to tierek but if diamond tiara helped her too it could be pretty interesting to see
I think that luna, starlight and maybe if they can get sunset would be useful to reforming these guys Especially sunset since she has experienced the magic of forgiveness and reformation more then nearly any other character in mlp
Wasnโt there some kind of mention that Tirek was close with his grandma? I remember that Cozy Glow said that Tirek talked or something to his grandma or something in his sleep. I think it was in the episode when they got the bell
what you should do is sepatrate queen Chrysalis from cozy glow and tirek then put thoraxโs brother with chrysalis and dimond tiara with the other two and if one dose not understand get good chrysalis in the room = recipe for villain bad to reformed good with : chrysalis tirek cozy glow in less than just 1 hour
I think tirek needs someone who knows and could tell him what could happen if he got what he wanted and maybe someone who has been through the same as him. So i think diamond tiara would be a good choice along with starlight and his freinimes
I think luna would be a good match for tirek, mainly cause i'm willing to bet, king vorak loved both tirek and scorpio a lot, but tirek probably didn't feel like it due to his his brother finding friendship and him not yet, scorpio still being accepted by their father. so i'm willing to bet that its a sibling thing more than a parent thing. If it is a parent thing, then how about gladis. as a griffen he was raised a certain way, proud, obcessed with power/wealth, and not well loved by his family/own kind. I feel tyrec could perhaps relate to that, and be able to relate also on them both not being pony's given tirek doesn't care for them much.
Maybe the villans could mean 'Everyone deserves a second chance' in some way? They can help villans who have lost battles and don't know what to do with themselves anymore.
Fatd0gg0 yeah, that was my point. Both that, and convincing future villains what it means to have a prosperous equestria. Thus being in true Harmony, even amongst the villains
@I Am unique what about Sombra? He is the only villain that no one has thought about. He has shown, time and time again, he can break free, come back from what was supposed to be death etc. What if he were brought back? What if he were reformed? Luna could be an option.
Well, TBH, we have real life animals that have multiple organs (cows with four stomachs, snakes with two dicks, earth worms having multiple ovaries, etc) so it's not unreasonable to believe that a centaur has two cardio vascular engines in him (2 sets of lungs, 2 hearts) it would help him maintain the flow of oxygen and just like Secretariat, who was found to have a heart four times the size of any normal horse, he can probably run VERY fast, for VERY long distances.
I could see this as an episode of the show, Twilight frees the villains from stone and tries over and over again to reform them but nothing seems to be working, eventually Twilight would give up and retreat to her castle to find the reforming spell. During that time Chrysalis would storm off to her old hive while Cozy Glow and Tirek sit on a bench, Diamond Tiara pops up.
When Twilight comes back she finds the newly reformed Cozy Glow and Tirek drinking tea with Diamond Tiara.
Twilight freaks out over Chrysalis not being there and rushes to the changeling hive only to see the reformed Chrysalis.
i personally think that the key to reforming tirek is, Diamond Tiara and Stygian- they both wanted respect from parents / pillars. and tirek just wants respect from his own dad.
Weird hot take, but other than that we could also introduce him to the princess of love, and give him a sense of family and validation a different way! I feel like he'd do good with a lover to keep him in check.
Bro I get the diamond tiara idea but I think the true pony who can reform tirek is...
TEMPEST SHADOW!!! She sided with the storm king but he abandoned her kinda like how his brother sided with the ponies instead of taking over with tirek! Mainly I think Tempest I perfect because she was out to take for her broken horn and he wants all the magic to impress king vorak.
Thatโs a pretty good theory but I think I think diamond tiara would be better because tempests backstory is betrayal while tireks is trying to prove loyalty to family
Tirek isn't evil because he felt betrayed by his brother. He's evil because he wanted to impress his dad.
Tempest also wanted to impress the storm king at first, but only to get her horn back. There was no familial connection between them. It was Tempest's broken horn and betrayal from her old friends that made her evil.
But the pressure from Tirek's father and also potentially the great glory from his family's past generations is what made Tirek evil. They are incompatible.
@Colm Byrne no she got Tempest shadow to replace that name, we only hear her say her real name once and i feel she prefers Tempest because the only pony she told was Twilight. if really wantehed to be called fizzlepop berrytwist she wouldve said it to EVERYPONY not just twilight.
Gimmecandy oooo you mean The Ending Of The End part 2 the is not a season finale season 9 was the last season of MLP FIM so the last episode of FIM was The Last Problem
Tempest was betrayed and only trusted the Storm King to get her horn back.
Tirek was trying to live up to his father's expectations at the cost of his moral dignity.
They aren't similar in the slightest aside from wanting power. And even then the only power Tempest wanted was her own while Tirek wanted everyone else's power.
I feel like Tempest would just feel very awkward trying to reform someone who looks like the person who betrayed her. Especially when they have little in common.
Okay, tirek wants power. He did that all to impress his father and to get to his father's expectations. Tempest impressed the storm king to give him power and get her horn back. The storm king wanted power. Tirek wants power. They both lookalike. Tempest might be an awkward match to reform tirek. I feel like the perfect match for reforming tirek is chrystalis and cozy. Cozy asked for help from tirek, and he helped her. So she will help someone that helped her too. Crystalis, she can show tirek the lighter side. So, those two might influence him to just go with them. I feel like they should travel the whole world to influence ponies/ other creatures to change for the better.
Everyone is saying the differences between tempest and tirek and I get that but I think there pasts are close enough for tempest to be the right one to reform him (srry if this is a copy idk if already wrote this down)
@kiftik I actually have a different pony in mind stygian he look to become stronger for the respect of the pillars and he end gaining that power by becoming the pony of shadows but he felt lonely and abandoned like tirek did when his brother choose he's friends.
@iloveowls90 But I thought she only told Pinkie Pie? And it annoys me when I don't have a YouTube account so people call me by my Dad's name. (Off topic, I know.)
@iloveowls90 I don't really remember the Movie but all I remember from it is parts of it, like how Tempest / Fizzlepop told Pinkie Pie and probably Twilight what her actually name was.
Im thinking Tempest is the way to reform Tirek. Here me outโ Tempest was leading the attack against Equestria. The Storm King made her believe that she actually had a rank and would get what she desired. Both Tirek and Tempest where under a kings control (even if Tirek was a prince) they both went out to a new land and had the chance for friendship (For Tempest it was returning to her old home) Tempest didnโt let friendship into her heart until she realized that she had no value to The Storm King and would never get her horn back. Only then she accepted friendship into her heart. I think Tirek could relate to her in some ways about pleasing/taking orders from a king who did not care for their feelings or what they desired. Tempest could help show (along with reformed Cozy Glow and Chrysalis) that he doesnโt need to strive to please his father if his father doesnโt care for what he desires or feels and that power wonโt help it would only make it worse.
What do you think if my theory? Please tell me your thoughts and let me know if I missed anything, thanks! ๐
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If him taking away magic/power gives him to give him a strong physique and to also please his dad. Friendship is MAGIC. We hear that all the time and what if gaining friendship will help him grow but not as strong as he did taking away all the ponies magic but enough to love himself as he is instead of taking everything away to please someone else other than himself. Kind of like the changelings. They were starving and love is what they used to seek, just like how Tirek seeks power. But friendship and Love is what makes them grow strong and fills that void in them.
Good idea but if it doesn't work, just get Fluttershy to reform him the way he did with discord. Also, you know the thing you said about Tirek's two "backs"? I think because his father is sort of a human so he has the legs of a pony and the upper part as a human just like his dad.
"Maybe Tirek can make up with his family" but its been 1000 years, how long do centaurs and gargoyles live? Tirek only lived that long because Tartarus has this magical stasis in place so the prisoners can go through eternal punishment (I guess, I can't prove that, but it would make sense). I don't think there's a whole lot to go back to. And what about Starswirl? Didn't he make friends with Scorpan, or some equivalent of that?
Ok this was good but I have a couple notes These are likely being reformed all around the same time and Diamond tiara working with two villains at once would probably be too much work for her, so I think silver spoon would be a good pick too as she also felt like in order to stay at the top, she had to be a bully. The relationship between diamond tiara and silver spoon is actually very similar to the relationship between diamond tiara and spoiled rich. Also Iโm sorry but I donโt think tirek will be able to reunite with scorpan. The legend sort of suggests that heโs dead and centaurs are probably not immortal (maybe the princesses had a spell put on tirek that made him not age while he was in tartarus)
This is why Sawtooth said he would save Tirek for last. Chrysalis would be reformed somewhere else while Cozy is reformed by Diamond Tiara. Once the two of them are fully reformed, then DT would be helping Tirek. When it starts to go off plan, then DT brings in reformed Cozy and reformed Chrysalis so that they can help convince Tirek.
Also, it's fair to believe that Tartarus is enchanted to stop all aging.
I would've picked Stygian. Mostly because he just fits the bill with Tirek pretty closely. Both wanted power to impress the ones they were close too and both got imprisoned for it. What separates them is that Stygian was given another chance and could possibly pave the way for Tirek as well.
Not immortal but they may be long-lived. I don't think Tartarus stops aging though: Remember Tirek's normal form is old and shrivelled: he's only young due to stealing magic. Likely his brother is similarly aged, with their father deceased.
Reforming Cozy Glow: *Shows picture of Discord* And that person is Diiiamond Tiara! Trick me once, shame on me. Reforming Tirek: *Makes me think it's Discord this time for real* And that person.. is DIAMOND TIARA AGAIN. Trick me twice, shame on you!
Bringing the other two villains in to convince tirek might work, OR He might throw queen chrysalisโs words back at her that friendship is a disease and they had both been infected and all that and end up turning both Chrysalis and cozy glow back into villains. Thatโs a big gamble there too.
I feel like for all three of them, Sunset Shimmer, Starlight Glimmer and Princess Luna could be more reasonable than Diamond Tiara and Pharynx. Possibly Stygian too. Plus, they have a lot of power, they could possibly turn them back to stone if they needed to. Or Discord.
A filly reforming a (at least 100 years old) Centaur is close to IMPOSSIBLE. and I really don't see it. REALLY!
I think it should be... Tempest Shadow. Or whatever her real name is. I haven't watched the movie in a long time alright? Anyway.
Tempest wanted to prove to the Storm king that she was capable of scaring everypony into doing what she wants. She wanted power , for a different reason than Tirek, yes. To get her horn back. To prove that she ^was^ capable of getting, no ^earning^ her horn back. Tirek on the other hand. or hoof in this case, wants to prove to King Vorak that ^he^ is capable of being powerful. He wanted to impress him. To make him proud. After the betrayal by his brother he was more angry than power hungry. As Sawtooth said, no one is evil just to be evil. There's motive behind it. Tempest's motive was showing the Storm King that she is capable of earning her horn back, and Tirek's was showing his father that he had the capability of being powerful.
SHOWING CAPABILITY. that's what they wanted. What they both wanted. The anger inside from all the dejection and rejection from others (Tempest's friends in her memories and Tirek's brother) caused the EVIL side to come out.
Based on Tirek's backstory in the comics, it seems like King Vorak didn't approve of Tirek's thirst for power, and actively discouraged him for engaging with Sendak the Elder who tried to teach him about stealing magic from other beings. When Tirek does try steal the magic from a unicorn Sendak captured, he causes an explosion, causing Vorak to arrest Sendak and confining Tirek to his chambers while Vorak returns the unicorn to Equestria, not wanting to start a war between the nations.
It appears Sendak planted the lust for power in Tirek's mind, but it should also be mentioned that Vorak felt threatened by Triek's goals, fearing Tirek's gifts could be his downfall. While Tirek does seem to feel like he doesn't live up to his father's expectations, I think that Vorak may unintentionally may also be to blame for Tirek's current state of mind. Tirek seems to view being a true king as one who exerts great power, which makes sense as while his father appears be a ruler who rules in a similar manner to Celestia, he is much more strict in doing so and will exert his power to conserve his own rule, which seems to be why he fears Tirek's thirst for power.
If Tirek could be shown that being a true ruler doesn't come from intimidation and power, but from a want for what is best for all his subjects, maybe that could help him reform. And what do you know, Diamond Tiara went through that exact same thing during "Crusaders of the Lost Mark", where she finds out that being the best Student Body President is not through use of blackmail and bribes to get what she wants and uses the money she has access to to better the playground for all students to use. Tirek would then learn that forcing his power upon others won't make him truly happy, but that using those powers to better the lives of others will. Learning the same lesson also learnt by Chrysalis and Cozy (who would back up Diamond Tiara), he would come to accept that he was a worthy successor as long as he and his people saw each other eye-to-eye.
And heck, maybe he could teach this lesson to his own father, whom while a good leader who wanted the best for his people, didn't seem to realize that his people were his power, and that as long as he had them, he had no real worry of losing the crown. With Vorak now knowing his true source of power was his people, and having learnt that from the centaur who'd he'd worry would overthrow him, Vorak could apologize for leading his son astray while Tirek could apologize for not seeing what truly mattered: His people and relationship he had with them. That way, when the time came, it would allow Tirek to rule over his father's kingdom as a true successor, knowing that his real power from from his friends and his loyal subjects.
Villains and Reformed Villains that could help reform them
Chrysalis: Starlight Glimmer, Fizzlebop Berrytwist (Tempest Shadow), and Pharynx Cozy Glow: Diamond Tiara and Discord (Discord can help motivate Cozy to do what is right and Diamond Tiara can teach Cozy through her stories of experiencing friendship about the benefits of friends and thus Cozy would be reformed) Tirek: Luna, Sunset Shimmer and Luster Dawn
I feel like if he had to talk with princess luna he could also be reformed, she didn't have to impress anyone nor did she want to but she wanted the same power when she was nightmare and wanted to overthrow her sister so she could get some sort of recognition
I think that the one that will be able to reform tirek is his own brother. think about it, his brother found the light and help give tirek his โtime out.โ He could tell tirek that he doesnโt have to be like there dad. He can choose his own way.
It's more likely that someone else can reform tirek and show him better things like a argument. Just think of it like this: tirek is William afton from fnaf and the ponys whose magic he stole a missing children. Princess twilight is someone saying he doesn't need a second chance and maybe summer dawn (I think) would be the one giving him a second chance, as summer dawn most likely knows everything he did now but summer has come far in her studies and more resembles Gallus than twilight and if Gallus had a probably very bad childhood without a family so he could almost relate to tirek. Also Gallus's want to stay with his friends at hearts warming is similar to tirek thirst for power just less evil. And as summer dawn seems a lot like Gallus perhaps she could do it
If Tirek ever did get reformed i would imagine one of the things he would do during his reformation would be to return to his homeland and try to make peace with Scorpan, and he could use his ability to absorb magic to help other creatures.
Yeah, like if there was some other magic stealing creature in Equestria, Tirek could help by absorbing all the stolen magic from that creature and then returning the magic to it's rightful owners, you know kinda like how he gave Chrysalis her magic back in Frienemies and when he did the same in the Summer Sun Setback.
Hmmm... How so? How could taking away magic be helpful? Yes, I get that he totally COULD be reformed, but what could he do after? The other two have at least some semblance of an idea of where to go next. (Back to the hive, perhaps as an important member and a part of the school respectively) Where could he go? And absorbing magic makes him more powerful. After some time, wouldn't it be possible for him to rebel himself, like a human would addiction to a drug?
I think you should keep trying to convince Princess Twilight to try this. She is all about the magic of friendship. Maybe if you explain this to her, she would be willing to give your plan a try.
Flurry heart is Equestrias last hope (twilight said that in the episode "Ending Of The End" when cadence offered to help and twilight didn't want it and told her to protect flurry.) ,and in the flash to the future, there was a stained glass pane with a grown flurry holding the crystal heart(you mentioned this when you "solved" flurry.),I think flurry saved the world and that's why that window was made.
if Tirek embraces friendship, is there a way to give him enough power to get him to his 2nd level of power? (the version where he's red, with short horns, not the curved horns, the level Grogar (discord)'s magic got him to?
I was thinking at first if Luna could reform Tirek. Because she wanted to prove to everypony that she is just as important as Celestia. But, now that you suggested Diamond Tiara, I think she would be better at reforming Tirek.
@โขMythicalClรธudโข My cynical side says 'heck ya' but of course we'll never know.I guess our best bet would be to try to imagine what OUR parents would do in that situation ๐
Little late here but, I think you could also use Luna for this situation, firstly, she wanted to make the ponyโs proud of her night sky if you get what Iโm saying, second, she also turned into nightmare moon, like tirek, wanted power and appreciation, and lastly Luna was reformed herself, because of the elements just like tirek was defeated by them, Luna also had a quarrel with her sister like tirek has with his brother, their almost like two of the same, Luna could help terek see that their are other ways to be appreciated and loved, them just gaining power.
hey sawtooth i have been wondering.... since you've made these 3 wonderfull videos about the villains how about making of king sombra and the ponie of shadows? about how to reform king sombra you'll need diamond tiara AGAIN, sunset shimmer and her human friend twillight, also you may need princess luna and discord..... about the pony of shadows it is known that it is connected to stigion and princess luna so they would be great help.... the tantabus that luna made can help too.... since even though it's form is gone we know that they are a part of luna, and stigion would try and show that even though they are a strong force they are lonely, and if they are then the power they have is useless, discord would be the best help on this part though since they are an embodiment of a dark force too, the hardest character i can find difficult to help would be grogar by how little info we have.... sombra is focused on ruling and in power, coazy glow and the others would help, even queen crystalis, discord can do his necromancer thing again.... and with the power of friendship the pillars can bring the pony of shadows back so that luna and stigion can help it.... but all of this is a speculation, although since we have a princess of the night we could also save dark creatures
I have a question, in the the ninth series of mlp, tirek was able to give back Chrysalis's magic, is it true if he steals alot if magic he can give it to cozy glow and Chrysalis? Making them more powerful?
I think how this situation would turn out is like this, there would be a powerful villian / monster etc and terik would defeat them and the village would cheer for him making him feel powerful
The Truth is this moment in the show that Discord mentions is actualy a call back to an origan story in the comicbook sries made for Tirek. Tirek's father was actual benevelent in some ways and he did not aprove of Tirek hanging out with another more elderly Centaur who practiced questionable magic. I feel that Tirek what ever his issues was wit his dad, he commited his actions not to be excepted by his father but because he wanted to surpass his father and prove he was better than him and anyoneelse. His brother was only companion too until he joined with Star swirl. Tirek might see the reformation of his old team mates as no differant. We would have to dive deeper into his relationship with his father and his own past life before we could honestly reform him so easily. I think the true way to get through to him is if his Father was still alive somehow and he was to somehow make amends. or maybe he returns to his father's kingdom and maybe learns somethings about his father that makes him better understand somethings and come to respect his father more. He was more of a rebel after all rather than just acting to seek aproval. because his father did not aprove of him asorbing other creatures magic.
True, but that was in the comics, which aren't strictly canon, so I think in the cartoon's universe what Discord is saying is true. After all, what Discord says is far from wanting to show his father he's better than anyone else. If Discord was wrong about Tirek fearing he would never be ENOUGH for Vorak, Tirek would have laughed at him. "Why would I worry about dad? I will defeat him soon enough."
I thought tirek wanted power because in school raze tirek said that draining power from the world was a waste of delicious power. I think he wants to eat it like how changlings feast on love but if he reforms and sees the light in friendship like his brother maybe he wonโt be hungry on power like the changlings donโt starve on love
I normally always agree with you with these videos but this time I'm a little confused about terik accepting I don't feel like he would accept it I think he would probably say something like are you guys crazy why would you do that giving away your power for stupid friendship or something along the lines of that
Maybe princess luna could also help tirek? I mean she tried to gain power from her sister only to end up trapped in the moon, only when she was freed and twilight taught her about friendship did she become the great princess we know now.
Marc Suraci2022-09-12 17:51:52 (edited 2022-09-14 21:42:14 )
Iโd just have Scorpan come instead of Diamond Tiara. Maybe Diamond Tiara, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow try to reform him but Tirek just sees the latter two as traitors like his brother and Scorpan shows up himself revealing that he was running late. And maybe just a conversation between the two can make them work things out instead of getting people he knows and doesnโt all at once. Scorpanโs probably ruling Tirekโs home ( if heโs still alive ) so wouldnโt he drop what heโs doing just to see his brother again instead of wait until Tirekโs already changed? Diamond Tiara can still change him assuming Scorpan passed away and thatโs why we never met him in the show.
Hey, Sawtooth Waves, I have a version for if they all won't be freed/ What if after centuries being imprisoned in one stone their spirits will slowly unite in one (they are prisoned in the very same stone after all). Then after the process is competed their powers will unite as well forming a creature powerful enough to escape from the stone. I even have found a probable desigh of that creature: https://youtu.be/Vxwx2FWfDHM?t=416 what do you think?
Remember he can absorb magic how will dimond tiara,cozy glow,and chistalis avoid that i suggest putting a shield to protct them or a spell that can prevent him from doing that so.
you know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek besides Diamond Tiara? his brother Scorpan because remember in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and become friends with the ponies (all kinds including the princesses too)
I don't think Tirek would stand for another foal trying to manipulate him. He only ever saw friendship as a "weakness", believing his enemies beat him through sheer luck.
And the comics depicted King Vorak as a decent guy, whose treatment of Tirek was motivated by his son's scheming, and the (entirely justified) fear of what he would do if he got his hands on power.
Vorak doesn't seem to be the problem, but Tirek himself. As Fiendship is Magic #2 portrays, Vorak never had high expectations of his son to be a good heir to the throne because he was power-hungry since day one, leading to the expectation that he will one day be usurped by him. To fix this you'd have to completely remove Tirek's hunger for power. And I find it strange you've been using the cutouts from that same comic, but not used the context.
You have never talked about the fact that when Cody glow tried to drain all the magic she said to put it in a different dimension and I think that's the human world dimension because she comes from the human dimension just like you said
You could throw in Iron will to help diamond Tara as he may not have daddy issues but he has alot to say about standing up for yourself regardless of what others think also they would relate over their love of muscle but not as something needed to dominate
Okay I put two other comments in both theories of how both Queen Chrysalis and Cozy Glow could be reform by people in the EG universe. Sunset Shimmer reforming Cozy Glow and The Shadow Bolts reforming Queen Chrysalis, than who would be able to reform Lord Tirek, it would be Juniper Montage. After all, her actions in both "Movie Magic and Mirror Magic" were almost the same as Tirek actions. In Mirror Magic, when magic hit a mirror and Juniper Montage saw a better version of herself, she took drastic measures of capturing the mane 7 and using their magic to become more bigger and better, just like Tirek. So in this scenario, Lord Tirek would be the last one to be freed, he bumps into Juniper Montage, there, they can share similar backstory and Juniper could be able to covince him to reform. And Tirek would decide to stay in the human world and get a job at the mall, not at the movie plex, but maybe somewhere close so he and Juniper have a conversation.
Hey Sawtooth Waves, what if King Sombra could have been redeemed?? I havent seen that much fans talking about his backstory and his true love Radiant Hope.
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Hey Sawtooth,i got a theory! Laughter is not an element. Is not possible.The other five have important traits like:Loyalty,Honestly,Kindness,Generosity and Magic.Butttttt laughing is not a "so important"thing in equestria,like,many ponies do not like laughing or Pinkies' jokes,and they are ok. And i should add that Pinkie is selfish and careless too(luckily not too much),like she many times almost KILLED HER FRIENDS and just laughed,and in some adventures she didn't care of the mission but she cared of her own interests...So she may be cute and fun,but she is not a really good person and didn't deserve an element. Take Raimbow as an example:She many times almost killed her friends,but she noticed her mistake and apologised,while Pinkie pie did not.
I think Starloght Glimmer would be good to reform Tirek too but then again that's just my opinion... They both seeked something that was related to their past struggles...
Oh... Yes! Marvelous idea! Tirek thought that conquering other lands would win his father's approval, but it turns out Vorak isn't a conquer-y type of king. So, maybe his dad could also be a key to Tirek's reformation.
@Sydney Locher I dunno. He tried before and it didn't work. Or do you mean Scorpan, in collaboration with Vorak, trying to help Tirek? That might work.
If your idea doesnโt work, we got to get all the reformed villains together , Diamond tiara discord cozy glow chrysalis The whole changeling hive and maybe even Silver spoon Because Silverspoon was trying to be a part of diamond tiara is drama because Silver spoon said and I quote โ I donโt need to follow in her drama anymoreโ so maybe She could show trek itโs not worth impressing somebody Who doesnโt care about you whatsoever
I smell more seasons from a MILE away im not sure if mlp will come back but if this ever ACTUALLY happenes in the show i think me and a lot of others would LOVE that also your fan thery is the best ive seen!
Honestly I think you should be reform just like chrysalis well I know heโs reforming but he would look scary to every pony still so I really want you to talk about that and I love your videos bye
We have a lot of characters that can help tirek reform. We got: diamond tiara, princess Luna, sunset shimmer, discord, starlight glimmer, and possibly his own brother, scorpan! Maybe even sci-twi from the equestria girls spinoff.
I think the key to reforming him is his brother... Now donโt get me wrong ur theory is really good but I think his brother is the key because when he gave discord the pendant in Season 4 he said โmy brother that betrayed me gave it to me it is as worthless as he isโ I think his brother chose friendship over power so I think thats what he meant by โbetrayed meโ
Well similar to Cozy and Bug queen, there would be discord there to make sure that nothing terrible can occur. And I highly doubt Tirek would because he knows how powerful discord is.
@Eclipse I don't think tirek can do that this time though, notice how he waited until he got a lot stronger to absorb discord in ss4 , I think he needs some fuel first to get discord
@Eclipse Remember when Discord and Tirek encountered each other in Season 4. Tirek tried to attack Discord, but he just wasn't strong enough to do anything to him. Had Tirek not manipulated Discord into helping him, Discord would've sent him back to Tartarus easily. The only reason he could steal Discord's magic later was because he was already strong enough to do so. So I agree with @Ngoc, Tirek wouldn't be able to steal Discord's magic because he needs to become stronger first before he can do that.
All the prior replies, and I would also think presumably Tirek wouldn't be released from stone until after the other two have been reformed for at least a couple years with no backsliding - since in this theory they're involved in his reformation, so it'd be better if their footing as good guys was more secure. So Diamond Tiara wouldn't be quite so tiny a pony anymore and would have learned the skills to reform him without ever putting herself in a position where he could beat her up.
You got the princess of the moon the princess of the sun the princess of love the princess of friendship the princess of light and diamond tiara as the princess of
Twilight would be a better fit because she started off thinking friendship was useless to her until she made friends. She was in a much similar position to Tirek. She wanted to get stronger on her own, thinking friends would just get in her way but that changed when she actually made some. She got stronger in a good way due to friendship. That's what my lover says at least. They don't like to comment on stuff so I did it for them
I think you forgot that Diamond Tiara is not a filly anymore, in the last episode of season 9 it shows all of the young ponies fully grown. Even Pumpkin Cake and Pound Cake
Can we talk about the fact that Discord knows about Tirek's... dad? You've theorized that Discord was "born" shortly before he was defeated, so how could he have known about someone who existed back when Tirek's dad was around. Unless his dad is still alive? But where is he now then??? There's a few holes here... ALSO TIREK AND DISCORD KNEW EACHOTHER!!!! HOW DID TIREK KNOW OF DISCORD AND VISE VERSA?!?!? I would love to see you figure this out lol
Maybe we could use Sunset Shimmer! She was manipulative and made everyone at candrolot high terrified of her, if they used the book thing to call her back Sunset and Diamond could both tell how they went from evil villain to good friend
Duh, the changing ls job was to steal and spy for queen chrysalis, um, killing, (or whatever) Diamond tiara and pretended to be her. The changing liked the power of manipulation he had over his school bc its more influence he ever got under the Queen? Idk where Iโm going with this but yeE
Hey your message was awesome oh I have no idea how about YouTube videos about ponies please donโt say no please say yes yes yes yes yes please pretty please I mean your message is so good I forget sometimes why I say YouTube anyways do it
Why is it that hearing tirek, to me, makes him kinda sound like emperor bellows from the Owl House? I why does hearing dimond tiara and crisalis, kinda makes them, to me, sound like Amity and Lilith from the Owl House?
I do not know if someone has said this yet but in twilights Kingdom episode part 2 when tyreke betrayed discord he took discords magic too so tyreke has the power to absorb chaos magic but with cosy glow and chrysalis he doesn't?ummmm
bro, poor Diamond Tiara why not Luna? She sought out power and made an eternal night for the validation of her ponies but never got it. The power it took from becoming Nightmare Moon can somewhat relate to Tirek and realising there are other ways to gain approval will also help him see that there's no need to please everyone as long as you're comfortable in yourself
I reckon ponies who can reform Tirek are most likely to be a powerful pony like Princess Luna. Iโm sure he couldnโt care less of any โlow-lifeโ ponies
I wonder, if Tirek were to ever go back to his homeland, would he find King Vorak or King Scorpan? Because we really don't know much about current circumstances of the land, maybe Scorpan is King.
@Sawtooth Waves I have a theory after discord put a stupid test for twilight after the final battle he finally got grogar bell it possible he going to give the bell to the real grogar similar to moonrise alternate ending when grogar went inside discord body to escape tambelon but instead going inside discord body. Grogar tell discord to get his bell and bring it back to him, if that not true then what happened to grogar bell ?
What about another villain. Have we forgotten about him already? I mean Pony of Sha- Jk It's Sombra. Seriously, the dude got so much care put into him in comics but in official show he's just thrown away like a garbage. And we already know Discord can revive him from friendship blasts. So, can you make a case for reforming Sombra? And maybe some other obscure villains like Flim n Flam.
Hey I want to know if anyone still care about these of questions i have listed for the show like... 1 Are there any zebras other than Zecora? 2 We never got a mention of the Diamond Dogs again what happened to them? 3 Things said but never talked about again like how actual ponies turning into trees because of the Swamp Fever! Was that one of the few reasons why everyone was scared of the "Dangerous" Everfree Forest? Is the Everfree Forest made out of ponies who wondered into it and never came out?
I was sort of thinking for tierk maybe Starlight or even Luna, especially Luna bc she only wanted for her people to love her as much as they did Celestia
Could you please continue this series with Sombra? I know heโs dead now, but I think it would still be really nice to see how he couldโve been redeemed...
If those three canโt reform him I think maybe discord can, I know he wasnโt in the same shoes and tirek and canโt relate but maybe he can show him that friendship is better than power by showing his relationship with flutter shy and maybe try to get one of the mane six to befriend him to show him that friendship is better than power. That is just my theory and I know itโs probably a bad one :โD
Edit: I completely forgot this existed and now it has a lot of likes :โD Thank you for liking this comment people
I actually though he was gonna say discord instead of diamond tiara cause i feel like he have a easier chance trusting someone alot similar to him when it come to amount of power
Gimmecandy: plus if family really meant so much to Tirek, then Discord calling him out for having daddy issues won't encourage him to associate with Discord.
Fresh2000: although I strongly, strongly dislike Discord, I have to admit that he's the most powerful being there is. Tirek wouldn't stand a chance even though I'll always be rooting for him.
@Shadow Spector hmm i mean he did risk his life to deflect a beam that could have killed him to help everypony captured get free. They did steal his powers captured him and dragged him around on a chain and tried to purposely sadistically harm his friends. And even if discord made them strong enough to do these things in the first place, they still choose to go out and cause havoc on their own and took pleasure in doing so and didn't have any remorse or guilt for their actions in the end for doing so. So while maybe cruel its really understandable that the princesses discord and others would want to get back at them after all that.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD Well the trio didn't really do anything sadistic to the Mane 6 or the princesses. All they did was trap them. While Discord freed them again, simply freeing the mane 6 isn't enough for basically dooming Equestria by releasing the trio. Also the trio went ahead to follow their own initial desires because Chrysalis interrupted their realization of being good in Frenemies. What they needed was help from the heroes to be better. And while it sounds like it would be understandable for the "heroes" to "get back at them after all that," what they did was far too cruel for anyone to ever experience. The only thing that really needed to happen would be to put the trio back in Tartarus where they wouldn't harm anyone since they were not a threat. The princesses and Discord instead trapped the trio in stone for all eternity while they are still conscious. That's horrendous.
@Shadow Spector the trio tried to kill the mane 6 multiple times in the finale and tear off spikes wings. When captured cozy stated she wanted to kill them, crystalsis said lets have fun with our guest to show that we broke them implying torture and was gonna allow the windigos to turn eq to a frozen wasteland. Frenemies shows that just because everycreature has the potential to change for the better doesn't mean that they ultimately will. When discord got turned back to evil in s4 he ultimately shows signs of guilt before getting betrayed and once betrayed was depressed of realizing how he betrayed fluttershy with his actions of wanting power. Discord as grogar is him not thinking things through with his established character flaw of arrogance and having a chaotic way of helping which led to the biggest fuckup ever but still an accident none the less of actually trying to be a good friend. Villains have only ever been truly reformed/forgiven in this story when having guilt for their actions like at least apologizing & making an effort of trying to be better and given they showed none to the characters and tried to do far worse than other threats they faced who they also have punished like nightmare moon, sombra, discord when he was evil into stone etc. Ofc they'd punish the trio. The trio being released or not is up to the current leader twilight.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD Discord is the only villain in the show who has felt remorse for his actions while still evil. Everyone else, if they have been reformed, only show that they don't want to be doing what they're doing only after their reformation. The closest thing to remorse before redemption is Starlight, but she was just crying about her failed friendship. With the trio, they were talking about how they would rather be good than be evil, but Chrysalis stirred them from their realization moment to encourage them to continue being bad. What they needed was someone there to help them be good and stay on the right path since every reformed villain prior has had someone help them reform. Discord had Fluttershy. Starlight had Twilight. Stygian had Starlight and Twilight. etc. Cozy had no one other than Twilight asking her why she did the things she did. Then Cozy was sent to Tartarus instead of being helped. Tirek had no one. Chrysalis was given a chance but at the wrong time, and should've been helped later. And what the trio did was not the worst thing that has happened to Equestria. Starlight basically destroyed Equestria several times over, and she still got help from Twilight, a chance to be put on the right path. The trio was merely subdued and beaten, and then promptly executed out of sadistic and vengeful fury.
Now if you truly don't believe the trio would choose to be good even though they made it clear that they wanted it, then they still could've been treated better than what they got. I know it's understandable to want revenge, but protagonists are not supposed to take that revenge. They're supposed to struggle with it and then ultimately decide mercy, or else they're no better than the villains. If you truly don't believe the villains would have chosen good, then they should've been sent back to Tartarus since that showed not to have any lasting effects on the prisoners' sanity. Equestria would be safe, and the trio would not have been tortured endlessly. It would've been an overall better sendoff.
@Shadow Spector dont get me wrong im not saying it isn't possible for them to reform anything is possible this trilogy was good theory videos, its a tough brutal lesson to teach but a necessary one for kids, someone has the potential to do better maybe even wants to on some level but some wont ultimately choose that over there own evil. Tirek tried to doom eq twice. Crystalsis has to tried to doom eq countless times. Cozy glow has probably the least excuse outta the three, child or not because she obviously has the intelligence of an adult and despite being in a school of friendship learning friendship still choose to do evil and betray the ponies who treated her as friends. They could be better but the characters aren't obliged to give them another chance when they have tried to kill them and etc and dont even apologize for it, literally if they only said sorry given how these characters are they would have forgave em and wouldn't have been punished for their actions. And starlight did it on an accident, the 3 tried to purposefully doom everything. Fiction has deluded people into thinking that if an remorseless evil person tries to harms u and u harm them back, that that makes u as bad as they are. Despite only doing it in retaliation, the characters are heroic they'll protect their country and forgive but also aren't pushovers who will allow evil to walk all over them. Which is why they have punished villains before, i also don't even think the mean 3 are coscious in stone because discord was only conscious because hes a reality warper.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD For the lesson of a villain having the potential to be good but not choosing it, this lesson could've been portrayed a lot better. If the writers made it like Starlight Glimmer in which Twilight was trying her best to reform her but Starlight woudln't listen, causing Twilight to be forced to stop her actions, then this lesson would've been accurately shown. But for the trio, the princesses should've tried to give them another chance, and if they each rejected it, then it would've been understandable not to have them reform. But still don't trap them in stone because like I said, Tartarus seems to be much more humane and will still have the same effect on Equestria.
And Cozy Glow is a smart filly, yes, but she's still just a child. It's entirely possible that she has been deluded into thinking that this is actually the goal in life, and she isn't supposed to listen to the Mane 6 because they're only purpose is to prevent her from achieving her goals instead of try to help her.
It sounds like such an easy thing to just say sorry at the end, but with basically all of Equestria staring them down, Cozy and Tirek were frozen in fear. Chrysalis was the only one who was adamant on staying on her path, but Cozy and Tirek were speechless. And when the cupcake landed on them, each of them were completely shocked on what was going on around them. It happens in real life too when someone isn't given enough time to understand what's happening, and the trio didn't know what was going on until after the spell.
And while at the beginning, Starlight may not have known what she was doing, at the end, she clearly had a firm grasp. Twilight told her that every reality she was in was worse than the last, and Starlight clearly saw what she was doing, but she still insisted on it. She directly saw that doing what she was doing would've destroyed Equestria and all life on it, but she still attempted to fulfill her plans. That's even worse than the trio.
You also say that fiction had deluded people into thinking that revenge makes a hero as bad as the villain. Now, light-hearted revenge like dumping water on a bully isn't evil, but what the "heroes" of Equestria did to the villains is literally the worst thing imaginable that can happen to the villains. There was a clear sign that the trio was powerless and defeated, and the villains could have been properly sent to Tartarus if the heroes really weren't willing to give them a chance, but instead, they sadistically smiled as they subjected them to an eternity of endless torment. Discord even begged to join in on the slaughter. That's not what heroes are supposed to do, and this ending is trying to normalize heroes acting like villains, and it seems to be working.
Lastly, it's completely a theory that Discord is the only one who is conscious in stone. He said that being turned to stone doesn't stop him from hearing everything, and that's the confirmation we have that stone imprisonment doesn't stop you from being conscious. And with how vengeful the princesses and Discord were, it is clear that they would have wanted the trio to feel every bit of torture to get off their sadistic pleasure, even on a child. I don't see how this isn't universally seen as horrible.
@Shadow Spector it comes down to differing morals doing cruel things to cruel people is seen as okay for many, yeh its not really heroic but it usually has a feeling of 'oh they had it coming'. The writers made sure to portray the villains as being very evil by having them do things like try to kill the mane 6, the writers underestimated how much some audience members sympathy for them in frenemies would overright all the horrible shit they do in the finale. They also didnt account for discord being made out to be a monster instead of the very misguided flawed but ultimately good/well intentioned friend he was portrayed as. With the villains made out to be almost if not innocent victims.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD Yeah the writers made the trio redeemable in Frenemies but tried to toss everything out the window in the finale just so fans would try to be angry at them and support the princesses. But the trio is so extraordinarily likable in the previous episodes that it lingers in the finale, causing fans to still care for them. I guess the writers didn't think through their decisions.
@Shadow Spector The possibility of being redeemable is fine, plenty of characters have shown to be that in fiction even villains but ultimately become monsters or bigger monsters then before and being dealt or suffering some kind of fate in story if theyve gone too far despite earlier seeming redeemable qualities. Also i do found the mean 3 likeable but as good villains and nothing more besides headcanon and theories of making them out to be better as creatures than they are shown in canon. Either way good discussion.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD If you'd like to end it there, I'm unopposed to that, but my main thesis is that it is possible for them to be redeemed if they had help, but if they end up not choosing that route, then they should've been treated more humanely.
Thank you for being respectful in this discussion. It is very appreciated.
I think starlight glimmer could help him as well look at her past she wanted to control other pony,s and have power but then realized friend ship is the true power to happiness
They worked together in the past. Due to this, theyโve had a small history. I mean I agree that diamond tiara should be there too since she also has a connection that you proved in this video. And according to someone: โgalaxy star 124โ Tempest is a possibility.
Yeah, it doesnโt make that much sense but itโs my opinion and idea.
CMC: That was a pony we helped! Twilight:Diamond Tiara in honor of reforming three of Equestria's biggest threats I crown you as,The Princess of Reformation! Silverspoon: That's my BFF right there,Princess Diamond Tiara! Chrysallis,Cozy Glow,and Tirek: We are so proud of our mentor!
I would say it would be better to bring Twilight form Equestria Girls(from Crystal Prep not Equestria twilight) because she also had someone to make proud and pressure by that same person (principal of CP) and sucked power and magic from people.
The Stitch Man Not quite XD though I never looked at it that way before, They also have two stomachs, each used for digesting different types of food, though how that works fully Iโm unsure XD
Maybe the key to to reform these villains may be diamond tiara I mean literally or maybe the main six can like deal with each villain at a time so then don't be like total chaos I mean for the one for cozy glow they could have used like I don't know I forgot which character blade one of the characters is kind of like crazy glow but they could have used that character I forgot LOL
I picture all the reformed and ponies set on the right path all in a room when Twilight choices Diamond Tiara all just flipping out in there own ways.
Luna:Well I never! Starlight: Hey! That future me lied! Trixie: I wanted to tug on his nose ring Sunset: I WILL BECOME CANON AGAIN Iron Will: Awww i wanted to test my bench
Hmm...I think Discord is the key of reforming Tirek instead of Diamond Tiara because Tirek and Dicsord did help for each other in the past weren't they?
@A Random Person same im glad i didnt i already had water come out of my nose from laughing i do not wanna know what soda feels like coming out of my nose XD
Chrysalis: a Diffrent Ponymon (pokemon + Ponys/ Changelings) Cozy Glow and Tirek: I CHOOSE YOU DIAMOND TIARRA Sawtooth Waves: *Gives them a Whole Team of Diamond Tiarra while only giving Crysalis Diffrent Changelings Reformed*
I think starlight should reform tirek and now try to figure out why i think starlight should reform tirek, dont get me wrong, Diamond tiara is a good opinion too but dont you think that tirek would need two with the same problem! But thats my opinion meaby im wrong od meaby theres a BIG gap to fill in
@Sawtooth Waves or maybe in Pony life, but I would rather see it in the comics if it did happen. Plus that show is not really canon and I see the comics being more canon to G4. Edit: grammar
@SonicFan4Life 007 Side note; Only the Season 10 comics are canon, the Friends Forever Issues aren't canon, alongside the villain backstories and their arc to becoming villains, etc.
@Sawtooth Waves I love to see their official reformation in the comic, like Fluttershy said in Daring Doubt:"Everyone deserve kindness." Also, great job for finding the key to reform the trio.
@Sawtooth Waves I read the comics, Maybe ill see your reference in there, Also I made a comment about reforming king sombra. it would mean the world to me if you read it and considered, if not improve on my theory ๐
i was actually thinking of prince luna... she wanted power as midnight moon, and wanted to live up to celestia, and as they were both royalty they could work (?)
celestia and luna werent born alicorns but star swirl used some kind of spell to make them earth, winged unicorn and unicorn to make a alicorn and the experiement was done long ago
Also starlight glimmer can also help tirek... cause she was stealing cutie marks from a village.. just like tirek he was trying to steal magic oH AnD aLsO sunset shimmer cause she wanted the crown... BINGO
Heck ! throw in Discord ร la : "When we teamed up and you betrayed me you gained more power for yourself, but my friends in turn provided ME with enough POWAH to defeat you ! Again, and again, and again..."
Wow I am generally amazed at Sawtooth! He managed to find out the keys to Reform three of Equestria's dangerous villians! He found the keys to Reform Chrysalis and Cozy Glow and now Tirek! Great Job Sawtooth Waves you are an amazing Changeling and I will definitely do my best to support your channel! Also I hope you have an amazing day! p.s my b-day is on the 31st of this month! :3 Love your videos! Please keep making them! โค๏ธ
Diamond tiara is not the best example if you're looking for pride it's the dragons and when you're looking for Father's approval it's princess or Queen Amber
The new show:My little pony roasting is magic๐๐ Also maybe tirek grows by getting friendship once he's reformed to like how the changelings share love now
HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA Discord really roasted Tirek there. Discord, Fluttershy, Pinkie and Diamond Tiara really is in that I roast people around me casually club.
Yes, a centaur would have two hearts. A large horse-like heart in their main body and a smaller heart for the upper torso. This is because it's rather difficult for the body to pump blood up, thus to provide enough blood to the upper body and brain a secondary heart would be needed. They can survive with just the one large heart but that would come with major complications. However, only one pair of lungs would be needed. A frikkin big pair of lungs, not too hard since horses already have rather large lung size, but one pair all the same. Unlike blood, air is easy to transport up or down. It would have longer to travel but that isn't an issue for a giraffe so i doubt it'd be an issue for a centaur.
Tbh just throw diamond tiara into a room with tirek for 1 day or so and heโll be reformed 50% Cause uhm we all saw how annoyed tirek got from pinkie and agreed immediately in the ep where cozy tried to take all magic!
Dis be like: Twilight : Iโm the on- Starlight : Iโm the- Flutter shy : Iโm th- diamond tiara: GET OUT OF THE WAAAAAYYYYY-
Ok diamond tiara reforming tirek is a nice thought and it definitely has potential but you really think a literal demon is going to listen to a child i don't think so if you ask me I think a better candent is and hear me out now .... HIS BROTHER SCORPAN!!!!! and here's why When tirek first came to conqucr Equestria his brother came to and had the same intentions but unlike tirek he found friendship and tried to help his brother stray away from evil but failed but he can always try again and I think like chrisalycs (sorry if I spelled it incorrectly) Tirek need a hit from home and if not his brother then maybe his father should try to help him I mean like discord said he did everything he did because of his dad It just makes more sense to me that it should be someone close to tirek instead of a random pony child But that's my opinion on the matter
So chrysalis looked different after she reformed does tirek? I mean after he knows about family,friendship and everything people who did not see that tirek became good will think he's bad wth his dark colors or is that to weird
TBH Discord is the perfect person for him beacuse he also did the same thing and make a huge mess in Ponyvile, and notice the magic of friendship is more powerfull.
@Sawtooth Waves I guess geting him to come to Equestria would make for an episode itself (ong trip far away in looking for old powerfull creature) ... or Fluttershy could just ask Discord to "puff" him right next to them
Also donโt throw diamond tiara in the room of villains and donโt give her an hour the video that you made is Right dementia is the key to reforming Lord Tirek just like with Cozy Glow.
0:170:18 I always Think this song sounds scary. Like a Deep Dark Well. I had read the famous five by Enid Blyton. A deep button Well made me scared. And looking into the Black glowing eyes of evilness is creepy too. But I love Tirek, so I am not so scared.
Yeah And I know sheโs not in MLP, but Pacifica Northwest also has been through what Tirek and Diamond Tiara went through. Her abusive parents had very hollow expectations for her and just like Diamond Tiaraโs mom, Pacificaโs parents, mostly her father, only cared about status, wealth and power. They donโt care about their daughter Pacifica and they donโt care whatโs best for her. But then after Dipper helps her see the error of her ways, she has a change of heart and chooses her own path to follow, and not the path her snobbish nasty parents chose for her.
Yeah I agree with this theory but I think at first he wonโt agree just like when Flutter Shy was assigned to reform Discord and Discord kinda created a catastrophe
Only just found this and saw the others and No. The other two sure those will work but Tirek is no.
Even using what bonds he had with Cozy and Chrys won't work because if his own BROTHER wasn't enough to convince him then those two have even less of a chance his mind they'd be chalked up as being weak and would see it as a challenge to fight against the desire of friendship.
Tirek isn't beyond reforming but to do so would actually require one simple thing... Don't Reform Him...... Reform the father. If you want there to be a change in such a prideful being such as Tirek you need to go after the source aka track down his father and convince him of a different path and show the father what happened with the Brother. Give Tirek's motivations to go down a different path.
Would you please make a video on the real reason behind night mare moon .See the theory goes like this If you remember the tale of the 2sisters was after Luna was banished to the moon celestia took in charge of both sun and moon if you think about it how did celestia get the power to reach the moon? although there are 2 explanations Explanation number 1- after Luna was banished to the moon celestia use the elements of harmony to gain the power of raising the moon too Explanation number 2 - celestia had the ability to raise the moon long before Luna was banished. Luna might have gotten to know that celestia had this power and become jealous and felt like a spare . celestia would have probably give in that position the Luna for raising the moon because she was her sister. this explains a lot and makes a lot more sense for Luna to become jealous of celestia and turn into a nightmare moon
I told you about this theory invite of you videos of yours. If you think me during make sense then please make a video about it
My opinion is to reform TREC is starlight why well because she wanted lots of power too! And she can explain to Trec that power is not always the answer. Or trixie
Imagine this. Celestia: it is time for a new princess. Starlight: I'm ready. Celestia: not you, her points at Diamond Tiara Diamond Tiara: WHAT? Starlight: what is she the princess of then? Celestia: the princess of reforming and being relatable. ๐๐๐๐
I have a question are the storm king and T-reck Brothers and if so why don't we see them together because I think their brothers because they look exactly the same except Iraq has more than one set of legs and if so they are brothers then why don't we see them causing the evil plot together and also they probably might be brothers because they have the same goal set they both want to really question and turn it into ruin if they were brothers then how would the main six defeat them
I thought Sunset shimmer would be the one though- she has been through the same thing and she had to escape to a different world then hers to reform in there
But what if tireks dad never cared about power, it might just be me but if you think about it he also might be misinterpreting what his dads priorities were
Bad standing house? Bang it with a hammer! Your pets house is not standing? Bang it with a hammer! YOU ARE REFORMING VILLAINS? BANG IT WITH A DIAMOND TIARA!
I feel like I can relate to Tierek in a way. I feel like he got scared to love after thinking he wasn't good enough for his family. I was similar to this after I came out as transgender to my dad. He doesn't accept me and I went into a mindset that if I wasn't good enough for my family, I wasn't good enough for anyone else so I shut myself away out of fear of loving
Again, this is assuming he even WANTS to change. Cuz while we can speculate about this all we want? Only terik can decide. Every person in existance could want to help you but unless you WANT help & WANT to change? You won't. Some people won't change Even when their life is on the line.
This comment is very true! However, given the events of Frenemies, I believe Diamond Tiara with the aid of Cozy Glow and Chrysalis could make Lord Tirek want to reform.
"The person who can reform tirek is" "diamond tiara yes again!" Me - "um hello sunset shimmer? Starlight glimmer? Trixie? Princess Luna? Their are so many others and you pick Diamond Tiara? Im suing (not)
i bet twilight made some rehabilitation center for former villains, or even sent those villains to her school since twilight technically made the school for kids and adults
After rewaching the season 4 finale I wondered if discord came from the same "Distant land" Tirek and Scorpan came from? When discord confronted Tirek, Tirek seemed to be familiar with Discord and even a little freindly like they were childhood friends.
If he needs chrysalis to be reformed then I don't want him to be. (See my comment on the chrysalis reforming video for a little more context) there's got to be a better way
3:34 How do we know Vorak is like Spoiled Rich, For all we know he could be like Celestia but Tirek misunderstood his message. Vorak: Friendship Is Magic so you work with other people to gain more power, Tirek: YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M GONNA SUCK THE POWER OF EVERY CREATURE IN EQUESTRIA, Vorak: No, No, that's not what I meant- Tirek: I'll make you proud of me, Dad.
Actually, if you read the comic where Vorak came from, he was actually a pretty reasonable guy who wanted peace with Equestria and was distrustful of Tirek because Tirek was a power-hungry jerk who trained to steal magic behind his father's back in order to get so powerful that Vorak couldn't tell him what to do anymore.
Seriously. Sawtooth. You could use others. Discord could persuade tirek.
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Fantasy Of Lis2020-11-05 19:23:53 (edited 2020-11-05 19:24:17 )
Diamond tiara's other talent. Reforming villans XD
(No sir, first Cozy Glow and now Tirek. She needs an other cutiemark for this)
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Sun Ruby2020-08-08 10:43:44 (edited 2020-09-18 23:27:48 )
This is irrelevant to this particular video, but in a previous video you tried to describe which elements of harmony of the student 6 would represent. You tried to match the, up to the same qualities as the mane 6, but whose to say that they would represent the same qualities as the mane 6? Think of the pillars, the represented the elements of harmony, but not for the same reasons the mane 6 do. Here what I think m the student 6 would represent. Yona: Trust Silver Stream: Gratitude/Joy Ocellus: Gentleness Sandbar: Faith Smolder: Honour/Acceptance/Protective? Gallus: Honour/ Courage I hope you understand my point!
DUDE! Dude, hear me out, i want that you, yes you, could provide theory about reforming of EG villains, Dazzlings, i mean, their basic motivation for their evil is hunger, not for power, but like changelings, but instead of love its negative feelings, if not that, maybe they could change, now most awful thing is, that these can die from hunger, because their necklaces is broken and its actually sad in my opinion, anyway, i want to know, do you have a solution for their reforming? If no, oh well, nice to see at least a small hope for former Legion of Doom.
My theory who controls the stars: Twilight is the princess of friendship but something is missing Cadence controls the crystal heart Celestia controls the sun Luna the moon everyone controls something but Twilight doesn't let's look at her cutie mark in the mlp it means magic but in our world it looks like a star so let's see the results yes Twilight is destent to control the stars
I think maybe discord could help TREC he may not have that same relatable Ness that diamond tiara has but he could ask him what did it feel like to have friendship do you have been friends before but he turned his back on him he would see how much fun and how much you cared for him Iโm not even though he turned his back he still appreciates the friendship that he had I still agree that the other two can help but I also think discord could help also saying that he has won a lot of power but when Fluttershy turned her back on him he only wanted that friendship again and I didnโt care if he had to be nice he just wanted his friendship and he turned good and that youโre a good turn good too because friendship isnโt a bad thing but of course thatโs my suggestion I still think them in Deara could do it but discord
I think diamond tiara should be a unicorn and her mom and her dad also i think the crown cutie mark of diamond tiara means that shes the princess of...
BUT BUT BUT!!!!! In the comics Tirek is not taking power bc his dad has high exspetations like Diamond Tiara's mom does but bc he wants to have all that power and to be worthy. He is just hungry for power
I have an idea for the video collab if u want to do it, my background is I am queen chrystaliis and king sombra son and I have been in pony vile for a while now. I want to make friends and started my friendship ways but I need to control the darkness inside. I want to talk to king thorax but he wasnโt around but you were around the corner so u change into his form and help me thus meeting ur true form at an later time so what do u think @ Sawooth Waves?
So umm you know in the episode โThe Last Problemโ when they sang the song part, Rainbow Dash is already the leader or you could say the captain of the Wonderbolts. I just couldnโt help but notice that she seemed a lot slower while she was flying with the new Wonderbolts team. Those that mean sheโs not the fastest pony in Equestria? Iโm really curious to know if she can still do a Sonic Rainboom!
@Sawtooth Waves Hm yeah I guess so, but like becoming a princess to rule over land, just like Twilight and the other ones. I think cozy glow used a different way to get a horn because clearly, she is not a princess.
iF tHiS hApEnD: diamond tiara: reforms every villain (next day) diamond tiara: shows up celestia: diamond tiara u are crowned to be the princess of reforming fOr nOw oN sHe wIlL rEfOrM eVeRy ViLlAiN
please read this sawtooth because i don't think tirek wants to prove his worth or make his father proud because unlike diamond tiara i think tirek hates his father so much stealing all that power would make him stronger than his father possibly strong enough to kill king vorak and free his people from the castle/mines of midnight meaning that is i'm right and king vorak killed his brother scorpan i think the true key to completely reforming tirek is scorpans own son, spike because if spike is scorpans son that would mean that tirek is spike's uncle meaning that 1 spike was well off that he didn't need to learn about dragon culture to know who his father was because just like how luke skywalker saved his father darth vador i think spike can save tirek from doing something worse then what he did 3 times already which means tirek could be the key to showing spike his phelociphy the history if his father's kingdom their traditions and spike could even become a nephew/friendship ambasitor to tirek's home meaning that equestria will have ganged another allie all because spike skyflyer saved his father darth tirek get it anyways please read this sawtooth and make a video of it someday
Anyone can reformed, not everyone will reform. Becoming good is a choice and while everyone has a choice to do so, not everyone will make that choice. I'm personally glad these MLP villains stayed bad, it's a good way of showing that while everyone can choose to be good, there will always be those that choose to be bad.
I'm glad you see it that way, since while I understand the fans who wanted the villains to reform, I personally do not think Tirek or Chrysalis are capable of reforming.
Lol after the end of season 10 u know the statue is starting to break but we will never know what happened to these villains, unless they appear in the G5 series, could u make a video about it?
Well Ik that what all 3 of them need is some form of counseling. Talking about their problems can help release tension which Ik all of them are going through
Iโm just confused why his background used to be him chillin in the Star Swirl The Bearded Wing with all da spells Star swirl made in the Canterlot castle
diamond tiara is the princess of harmony cause she's bringing harmony a better way then twilight stoping villain's from being evil instead of defeating them
0:42 Does that mean they have two hearts too 1:59 Do't you mean HOOVES XXXDDD 2:26 Or Spoiled Milk. I remember her as Spoiled Milk( that a funny name, cause whenever i see milk, i think of her) because that's her name too including Spoiled Rich, maybe they changed her name to fit Filthy Rich, maybe she used to be called Spoiled Milk, but once she married Filthy Rich, who she was engaged to her last name changed like any human who marries( tho Filthy Rich has a better personality, than his wife Spoiled Rich, even tho he's ''Filthy Rich", he's quite humble.) 2:52 Oooooh
Sunset Shimmer wanted power but when the mane 6 showed that only friendship would solve her problem of never finding a place and she could rephorme Tireck. Also Starlight Glimmer wanted power and was so obbsesed bye it she went to far g evryones cutie mark and keeping hers to herself locking the mane 6 in a room to give up there cutie marks and saying that talents were bad for you. So Starlight and Sunset could rephorme Tireck esellie
Well Sunset takes place at sunset and the Celestial time of day is when the sun rises. Sunset shimmer takes place at sunset and Princess Celesta raises the sun at sun rise. I just thought of how she lowers it at sunset as well.
I love your theary but I feel like mabye it won't work so Plan B I think tirek will only give up if diamond tiara, cozy gloo, queen chrisilas and the mane 6 yes the mane 6 I think after all that then he will tranfarm good and I think after a full speech with his kingdom he can reform them to good the mane 6 can help to I meen mabye rainbow dash can try? She hasn't seen her parents in a long time and she can tell her story to that could be it
theres anther person that can reform. tirek which is Cinderella because she has 3 king what ever his name is. her step mother , and her 2 step sisters and instead getting power she has to do work.
This isnโt your last video is it? Because I have great suggestion for a new one. You should do a video of all MLP shipping because I think some of them became canon. It would be a great video donโt you think? By my personal favorite is Fluttershy and Discord A.K.A.Fluttercord. โค๏ธ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ค
Sorry I meant to say By the way my personal favorite is Fluttershy and Discord A.K.A. Fluttercord. They would make a great couple donโt you think?๐๐ค๐๐ฆ
Me: sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra!!! Sawtooth:diamand tiaraXD Me:๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค Edit:come to think of it,the awnser is actually tempest shadow!!!!!
luna was jealous but she can tell the wrong path leads you to the wrong way its your choice your heart is in the inside its your choice for your destiny
POV: This is after they defeated sunset shimmer in Equestria Girls: Rainbow Dash: Well what do we do now? Rarity: We canโt reform herโฆ sheโs a lost cause! *Human Diamond Tiara Appears* Diamond Tiara: Allow me to introduce myself-
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pastel wolf 682020-08-07 17:55:59 (edited 2020-08-07 17:57:47 )
Diamond tiara the on that can reform 2 bad guys because she faced true pain
I m inprest. Good Job. I thing shining armor is the princ of love for ons children or the princ of confidenc. Thats bicous his never skerd and proteks his love ons. Sorry if you Don t Understand. And hi'd get his wings when he did something Which would make him stand out because now he's in the shadow of his wife and daughter.
I m sorry I Ment Shining armour could be the prince of love for his Child, or prince of self-confidence, because it's hard for him to be afraid and protect everyone he loves. He 'd get his wings, When he would Do something that would make him stand out from his family because now he's in the shadows. That's just my theory.
princess twilight before she became a queen :- we resolved all your problems an got rid of the most powerful villans (aka demons) of equestria diamond tiara :- SIKE YOU THOUGHT future princess twilight :- INTRODUCING THE NEW REFORMER OF EQUESTRIA DIAMOND TIARA!!! WHO REFORMED 2 OF THE MOST DEADLY AND DANGEROUS VILLANS DIAMOND TIARA :- THANK YOU THANK YOU it was pretty simple and it was all DEFINETLY NOT because of sawtooth
I have seen a lot of of the videos one got me thinking can twilight and cadence turn into evil version like celestial and Luna or is that just a sister thing?
POV: This is after they defeated sunset shimmer in Equestria Girls and Twilight told the Mane Six to reform Sunset Rainbow Dash: Well what do we do now? Rarity: We canโt help herโฆ sheโs a lost cause! Applejack: we should give up, itโs been 5 days now- *Human Diamond Tiara Appears* Diamond Tiara: Allow me to introduce myself. 2 minutes later: Sunset Shimmer: Hey guys Iโm just happy to be here! :D Mane Six: confused screaming
Tirek and cozy glow : BICTH WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE ME : YOUR GOING TO BRAZIL *YEET DIAMOND TIARA INTO ROOM WITH THE VILLANS * After 70 hours diamond tiara : we are friends now
Why not do what they did with sunset shimmer look at it like this they both wanted power show them the raw power of friendship it is at chance your way work's this way he will eventually give in for the power
Please I need to ask you a question Chrysalis holy glow and Tara they sang a song a better way to be bad and every time the main six help take could it be the editors just wanted them to win cuz cuz they cuz they just wanted to get more subscribers or could it be they he wanted them to win because they think the kids would be so scared that that was pretty about that or else I'll be
I don't understand how you talk so smooth but if you wanted me to talk in your place I would stutter and the whole video would be me stuttering very frequently ๐๐๐ like if you agree
i think he also needs discord.sure he betrayed discirr but uts all in the past right.discord also have similarity with him since he was from evil to goof
In that moment, Diamond Tiara realized two things. One, I donโt have to follow who your are. And second, I have friends unlike you. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
it is like bi love you might be a girl or boy that likes your gender it is your parents to have a choice if the they dont like that you like your gender most of the time your FRIENDS will be with you through that and friends can be the closest family
In the reforming chrysalis video in 1:07 I think that that's wrong. When the mean 3 were under the cupcake and Celestia said There is blah blah blah punishment worthy waht u done, I think that the sun moon princesses were going to turn them into stone. Then discord whispered something into the princesses ears, and I think he wanted to join in the punishment. I'm pretty sure that that theory about discord was the one turning the mean 3 to a statue is wrong to me.
I went in a rented to my mom cuz like I knew that you were serious but I was like what why and I was like explaining like why they were paired up like that but tirek just doesn't make sense
(On discords cutie mark) Rewatch make new freinds but keep discord. At the part where he was talking to twylyght. when she was confronting hym the fyrst tyme. He may or may not have a walking styck. It may or may not be interesting to pay attention to it.
I think about senatores I think about how do they have two stomachs like I understand you're supposed to be half horse but seriously Is one for keeping food in store and the other 1 for Digesting it?!?!?๐คจ๐ฌ
Ok so Iโd like to now WHERE you are getting this IโM ONLY AT COZY GLOW AND THATS IT I CANT SEE ANY MORE plz show me where I can find the rest of the show๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
You can tell a changeling to disguise as his father and say that he wants to change to be a good guy but donโt let him to go back to his father and talk about because it could me everything go in a big mess
Ok did I miss a movie did they make a new season on my little pony cause I donโt remember these characters working together and if I did miss a movie just tell me the name I am so lost
Hey this had nothing to do with this video and idk if you have already made a video on this but in mlp equstria girls apparently there is a twilight in their world and the pony world and sunset is from the pony world. So could their be a sunset shimmer non pony- world in equestria girls?
I think that day will never come back because I think discord is way more powerful than the two sisters I mean come on she has chaos magic and they donโt
And I think I know what he records goal is because his brother younger or older or twin brother is 16in full and outwitting that's a question I would really like to be answered so what if they were brothers I've been wondering that for quite some time now and why you doing this video If I have a triple dog dare for you while you if you do this video I would like you to turn into a dog or something I think that would be very funny Orchard way you can turn into mythical creatures correct so then turn into a dragon or turn into a rabbit or something something weird wait or you can turn into the same thing as T wreck cuz I really don't know what it is oh and I love your videos that have inspired me to make my own channel and your videos are amazing by the way if you like to swing by I can how come my videos as a surprise guest that would be very fun
My little pony is not done yet thereโs this other show called Pony life and made from the same person who made my little pony so my little pony is still on tho
Yes I think youโre right we should do it the other way like Iโm knocking do you like other way Iโm just Stena nothing like maybe thereโs another waveform you know him to learn friendship is not a disease friendship is good but research while I am in her future way I have a closing club tea Rex and cream and queen chrysalis are they still on the loose on the choppedIn a cage
There one luna cuz when luna become nightmare moom she want to rule the world she can say ruleing thr world is hard than so you need friends to help you ruleing is helping pony like friendship
LATE CHEEEEEEEEEEEK I think Trixi/Trixy schould help Tirek because Trixi/Trixy also wnted power but when she met starlight wait now Trixi/Trixy AND Starlight light should help Tirek
WAIT did you almost say PACIFICA i mean they aren't even ali- ...... Oh OHHHHH WHAT IF YOU MAKE A THEORY that characters from OTHER SHOWS are also connected to characters from MY LITTLE PONY well sure you focus on mlp but pleeeeaaaasssee do so. OKAY I ASKED THAT NICELY SO ATLEAST DO THIS IN A SHORT VIDEO FLEE HORSE NOW DO IT!
I think spinel is better I mean Terenceโs dad is tricking him like pink diamond tricked spinel all you need is something that can take you to Steven Unileverโs
mmm sawtooth can you help me with one thing i cant find the mlp equestria girls seasons you know twghlights first princess summit right then the friendship games i cant find what happened after the friendship games I CANT FIND ANY OF SEASONS PROPERLY can you help me . O and i only found only 9 seasons of friendship is magic only where there is no equestria girls seasons nor epesodes i am seriously confused of the story . And what happend to flash sentry anyways did twghlight merry him or what
As much as I love the idea for how Tirek could be reformed, isnโt that a possible risk for Cozy Goow and Chrysalis. I know itโs a stretch but considering how smart Tirek really is and how long heโs had a lust for power, Iโm sure itโs possible for him to โunreformโ them. Just an idea though I donโt mean any harm by it! ^^ lol
I don't know, I think using Tirek's allies would help in his reformation. You're right in identifying that Tirek has some deeply rooted family pride, but his father is not his only family member. Given that his brother Scorpan came to this realization a thousand or so years ago that friendship wasn't all bad (initially arriving with Tirek on the same mission) even then he tried to urge Tirek to give up his mission, and it didn't work. Since then, if an individual in a similar role attempted to aid in reforming him, he may reject the idea based on the betrayal and resentment that is rooted in his relationship with his brother. Diamond Tiara is a fairly neutral party that would be a good initial step, but ultimately I think there needs to be some focus on looking at Tirek's family relationships before going for a full on reformation. Seeking out Scorpan might be a good idea in this scenario, he would know the nuances of the pressure that Tirek is under and could relate his personal story of how he became reformed, despite hailing from a very similar background as Tirek. Chrysalis and Cozy Glow certainly shouldn't be counted out, but I severely doubt Tirek would trust them initially. If anything he'll see individuals who colluded with the enemy, and abandoned him, just like his brother.
You truly got me. I thought maybe princess Luna was a good option since just a Tirek, she needed to be enough for her people despise the shadow of Celestia, but also felt that she needed to up her game in order to be as respected at her. Didnโt thought you would return to the โDiamond Tiaraโ card but I think itโs fine, interesting and makes an little bit more of sense, lol.
You know, Tirek seems a bit smarter sometimes than the other two. He's the one who said "let's not use chaos magic", and he's also the one who wanted to "hunt Twilight Sparkle" when she escaped. And he was the one who knew the trio couldn't get up Mount Everhoof alone.
This one's yet another stretch from the series going on much longer than was needed. Tirek was never intended anything more than a callback and a Satan incarnate to be offed quickly and forgotten about. Chrysalis wasn't especially altruistic herself, but she had real motives beyond wickedness at her inception, as did Cozy. Tirek by design in plain evil and any sympathetic stuff is tacked on to try avoiding more pure evil troupes.
The changlings can even relate to Tirek. Heโs old and frail without stealing magic, and the changlings were hungry and incomplete without the love of others. The changlings found friendship and their hunger was satisfied, Tirek can find friendship and become young(er) and strong without having to steal the magic of others.
Maybe the evergreen forest should have it's own theory because in the the comment section of discord origins I made a story and in it I said when Discord appear the first time his seeds that fell into the ground could have also caused the everfree forest go Coco banana bread to prove this point look at all the times when Discord appear before he was reformed we see the everfree forest go wild and capturing ponies but I think since the harmony (the mane 6) and chaos (Discord) are at peace that everfree forest do you think this theory can actually be possible?
I think his brother scorpion should also be there. He tried to convince him to embrace friendship once but if he knew exactly what was driving him, he might be able to help reform him. It might work. What do you think?
I personally would have used Luna instead of Diamond Tiara. Similar desire for power based on feeling inferior to an older relative whoโs also an authority figure.
I do like the idea of the other reformed villains forming like a support group for the last one.
I think Trixie would be also good fit to reforming Tirek. Trixie would be a good fit because she tried to prove her worth to others and went too far. She would be able to teach him that you shouldn't have prove yourself to others to feel validated and teach him how to be patient.
hey. i know you probably wont see this, but, iโve been watching your videos for.. years? i think? and i thought you would have given up on mlp or just disappeared by now. i appreciate what youโve done SO so much, even making theories after the showโs end. i love you so so much and i hope you had/have a great day today. ๐
I'm actually glad these three didn't get reformed in the show, but if they did, this is EXACTLY how I would want it to go down. Consider me EXTREMELY impressed with your theories... that have kinda dipped into psychological and maybe even therapeutical territory.... hhhhhuhhhh... (glances at Dr. Wolf)
Eventually every villain in the show will reform. ๐
But let's give credit to Diamond Tiara if it hadn't been for and the other two then Tirek probably would've may or may not learn about the importance of friendship and family.
Just heard the This Day Aria remix again for the millionth time. you know, I don't know if it's just me, or it gets a katrillion times better each time!! Brony, you are a national treasure at both remixes and theories, but I beg of you to try to upload sooner.
i get that its bad the tirek stole all the magic in equestria but could you imagine how cool that would be, he returns home in his huge and powerful state and all the other creatures there are just so stunned
MLP FiM did touch on toxic relationships, and potentially toxic relationships, but never fully committed to it because of the show's target demographic, and that's fine, maybe one of the shows those kids pick that are intended for older demographics will go a bit more in-depth with those sort of subjects. Tirek is actually a pretty good walking example of a toxic relationship, both in how he interacted with Discord and how he talked about his feelings towards his brother, and his ability to steal magic could be considered a reflection of how toxic relationships just seem to take more and more and just get bigger and more problematic, often to the point where all older approaches won't work to dealing with them when someone finally gets around to dealing with them (like how some toxic communities are), but he is also in a potentially toxic relationship, chancesa are Tirek's relationship with his father is toxic and the extreme approach Tirek has taken is because of said Toxic relationship, further fed into by whatever philosophy King Vorak drilled into him before the events that got him locked up in Tartatarus the first time.
Have you ever talked about why scooterloo canโt fly but Bulk Biceps can? I always found it weird that scotterloo canโt fly for long because her wings are to small to hold her wait but Bulk Biceps whoโs wings are almost the exact same size if not smaller can hold his weight
Well in reforming cozy glow theory u said that diamond tiara cutie mark actually means to lead and leading and reforming are just different and as we know that a cutie shows ponies their true destiny but the destiny is always single but I think diamond tiara is very unique her cutie mark actually means reforming and leading see two things and the main side stand of reforming all the villains is cmc because if they didn't helped diamond tiara she wouldn't be able to reform the villains in the future
King Vorak doesnโt value power though. Itโs not that Vorak didnโt think Tirek was strong enough, itโs more that Tirek took it all the wrong way. Iโm pretty sure thatโs stated in the comic.
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Brian Shoubert2020-08-09 17:39:29 (edited 2020-08-09 17:41:13 )
It is difficult to reform Tirek, but I believe it's possible. But, he still needs magic to feed. I wonder what compromise can be found here?
I have a suggestion for a future video! You can do โHow the nightmare forces were createdโ with someone or yourself. You can also talk about how Luna was possessed by them and how rarity was, in the comic issue โNightmare Rarityโ
The only reason im suggesting this is cuz not a lot of peeps do videos about the nightmare forces and nightmare rarity is underrated XD
Clearly the only pony TRULY capable of reforming Tirek is Bulk Biceps. After enough workout sessions Tirek will gain near permanent muscles that donโt rely on flimsy magic stealing ๐
Dude.. did you actually read the comics? King Vorak wanted Tirek to move away from his evil ways. Tirek learned how to steal magic in complete secrecy.
Sawtooth waves there's something interesting that I'm right here somewhere the Storm King tee reckon score panel look pretty similar for the family are they somewhat related like you said in this video king something something something could be like a scorpion or something go back and look at G1 or even more I want to know more and you're the best channel to do it so much fun so much speculation I'm just giving you some ideas cuz to me it feels like you haven't posted in 2 years
i think on one hoof daimond tiara would be a good at this but chrysalis would be a better adivisor because when she reformed she she left all her old subjects and maybe if there are other changling unreformed once she left her past behind made a fresh start she would be better at this as she knows tirek better you see
seriously think this through sawtooth so in a normal ponies perspective twilight send a filly to reform a villain that could destroy equestria !! well this was an interesting theory nut i disagree
You are really clever, and i am suffering from covid 19 but and i am in quarantine so it is really boring staying in one bedroom so i watch ur vids really makes me happy
if diamond tiara was a princess, she'd be the Princess of Redemption. which wouldn't make sense, but it sounds a lot better than the princess of reforming lol
Sawtooth Waves now that your finished reforming the the big bad final 3, can you please make videos about how to reform: Sombra Lightning Dust Suri Polomare Flim & Flam Gladmane And Sven Gallop
I know this doesn't count about reforming tirek but did u notice that when celestial made twilight into a princess the place looked like the dream world? So maybe Luna can do the same or maybe celestial liked the dream world?๐
Tirek takes power from others all the power. So much so they cannot regen it. So what if he took a tiny bit. If course the ponies would be drained but they could regen it. Then what if Tirek could generate his own
Luna is the perfect one for this not Diamond Tiara, because even tho she had her mom for her king Vorak, Luna had Celestia. You see, Luna, like Tirek, started out happy and because of feeling low and not rising up to expectations,she turned into something bad. I.e Nightmare moon. But Diamond Tiara was born and risen to become rude, not starting out good. And like tirek had his brother Scorpan to rise before him, Luna had Cadence. So the real person who shud have explained was Luna, not Diamond. Pls make a vidio on this, Sawthoon.
I was thinking of a comic where scorpan comes back but at 1st hes very crossed with tirek over what happened years ago and doesn't want to speak and every time their with eachother tirek tries to make amends but scorpan doesn't want to and than scorpan snaps and cries and here's what they say after scorpan's episode. Tirek: I'm... sorry. Scorpan: you honestly think I'm not upset over what happened when we were kids I was just.. trying to be mature through all this.. Tirek: I know Scorpan than lays his cheek on his older brothers hand while tears stream from his eyes. Tirek let's out a slight smile Tirek: you want to know what's nice about being together again? Scorpan: What? Tirek: I get to tell you jokes I used to say when we were kids. Scorpan: laughs Be serious Tirek lifts him up and says Tirek: there's my jolly scorpi. Scorpan: Hehe your embarrassing me man hahaha. They laugh and hug while are crying. After words they decide to have a race after leaving equestria and they both laugh while racing. BTW a very interesting choice for a reform
Terk is pretty old, there is no guarantee that his dad is still alive. If he isnโt, Terk will never be able to gain closure, either through a good reconcile, or a Spoiled Rich rout. No matter how toxic a parent is, its engrained to want their approval, or respect. Itโs almost a trope for characters to be motivated to do great acts good and bad and/or stick around in a situation that makes them uncomfortable, unhappy, or thatโs dangerous , all for a parentโ love/approval/acknowledgment. For better or worse the lost chance to fix or end things between a parent and child will haunt the survivor. Forever leaving them with โwhat ifs and if onlysโ.Terk may yet be reformed through found family, but he may equally never be able to completely let go of his quest for approval, made a doomed foolโs errand if his father is truly beyond his reach. ....then again, equestrian magic might have a โtalk to the deadโ spell!
Sawtooth i THINK ya missed something in the last episode of MLP : we see that Twilight Sparkle became the roller of ALL of Equastria took over Celastia and Lona's mission AKA raising the sun and moon BUT we see on the LAST second that the sun was setting BUT Twilight was NOT either flying nor using her magic because her horn wasn't even glowing wich sadly DEBUNKS your theory about Celestia retiring from raising the sun maybe Lona also from dream walking but who knows , my point is , it seems that Celestia and Luna ONLY retired from ROLLING Equestria NOT from raising the sun and moon.
I completely forgot about what Discord said, my track was more about his brother. Seriously, we know he tried to rule with the use of Scorpan, but we don' hear about Scorpan at all after that. Where is he? Is he still alive somewhere? Though, since I was talking about Tirek being betrayed by his bro, I was thinking about how Discord tricked Fluttershy so she showed him she didn't value him anymore (the "NOT. YOUR. FRIEND!" scene), how Diamond Tiara got Silver Spoon vote against her and roast her afterwards, how Starlight Glimmer had her entire village turn their backs on her, how Thorax lead a rebellion that quickly got the entire swarm,... oooor, how Luna got banished to the moon. all examples of meanies who were betrayed because... well they were harming the people. Didn't Tirek harm Scorpan? Shouldn't that be addressed, if he's still alive to speak about it? But now of course Tirek can turn his back on his father just like Scorpan did to him, and that's just the same.
EDIT: ... Waiiiiiit! What about Sombra? I mean I saw you were talking about the windows at the Castle, so apparently he's not oblitarated? idk how that's possible that he's not, but anyway, could it be possible to change him? Wouldn't all that be weird with the other world from the comic book?
all the villians are pretty much reformed except the storm king he got turned to stone but in the credits he was still stone, but he seemed alive and we have seen magic still works in stone coul the storm king be making his return?
I think all those are good but what if twilight contacts sunset shimmer as well to help reform for back up here is why I say Like t-reck sunset shimmer craved power and wanted take over equestria due a falling out with celestia her teacher Another is princess Luna because being jealous of her sister celestia which made go into nightmare moon Another is starlight glimmer based how she was reform and why she saw her actions And the great and powerful trixie by starlight side to help calibrate their story and ideas T-reck is tough powerful villain that is known be one of the baddest I think with alot help one group at time just in case something goes wrong
I wanna reform a villain? Diamond Tiara! U wanna stop the climate change? Diamond Tiara! U wanna stop Corona,!? DIAMOND TIARA! U wAnNa DiStRoY hUmAnS!! !???? DiAmOnD tIaRa!!!!!!!
when you watch the song at 2:52 you'll see how cheese looks like pinkie or at 2:56 look how discord is looking at fluttershy why do i ask this? well we know because of the last episode that they are couples but here comes my theory
look at 2:58 and look at soarins look at rainbow dash it's exactly the same as cheese's look at pinkie pie or at 3:13 look at how flash is looking and twilight and at how she is looking at him + we never saw flash in the show expect for the moments that he was a guard but he isn't one in this moment
so i think that this is proof for them to be also couples but what about rarity and applejack? they both don't have someone like that so i think that they also are a couple
whaat do you think of my theory? i hope you can find more this or at least got some inspiration from it for more of your amazing videos
@Sara Gold Since he's a centaur, I'm guessing he has the bottom anatomy of a horse and top half of a man...demon or whatever the top is lol.
Still, I wonder what it's like to have that body. What exactly does Tirek eat? I know he uses magic to power up, but is that the only thing he can consume?
Hey Sawtooth waves I know you haven't posted in awhile and I want to give you an idea how about you doing orange and Story video I know you already did a feud those but how about like they like where you came from and who your pictures are won't don't go too deep then it just gets scary and weird but yeah you can just have fun making a little origin story for your OC please do it I would really enjoy it from whoever this is
I am late, ik, but better late than never! I think diamond tiara will be young adult when these transforrmings will begin, cause in that episode when everyone is older, tirek, crysalis and cozy glow isnt in the episode
I have a question about my little pony you can answer. remember the time I put a video that ponies get their names depending on their cutiemark? What about apple bloom rarity and scootalo. They got a same cutie mark but their cutiemark is different from their sisters apple jack, Rarity , rainbow dash.
Tirek: takes all ponies magic Storm King: Takes all alicorn magic Is it just me or does anyone find a similarity between the storm king and tirek. Lol what would have happened if storm kind were still alive till season 9.
I gotta tell you there is a thing called comics and there are season 10 comics of mlp in this we explore zecora's homeland all I read was part 1 and twilight raising the sun once
It should be discord or scorepan... O.K O.K... I know that scorepan even though he turned his brother into the princesses I would love for season 10 on how The reform villains that be amazing if they do that in like a season 10!! MY MLP!!!
โขAddiโข if he was sent to Tartarus, then we wouldโve seen him being sent to Tartarus. Plus, he came from a demonic ritual, so he canโt be hiding somewhere because we saw him being blasted away.
โขAddiโข wait, if he can only be summoned by a dark ritual by some pony, then maybe they shut off the only place where the ritual can happen, so that he canโt escape.
Uh I have a question itโs abt equestria girls As we know sunset shimmer is from the pony world And everyone in the pony world has a duplicate in the other realm But what happened to sunsetโs duplicate in the other realm?
And that person is Diamond Tiara again professional adverb forming villains diamond tiara be professional at everything being a villain getting reforms and reforming villains
I think you should add to the group discord not the app
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tomas peterson2020-08-09 04:09:46 (edited 2020-08-09 04:11:58 )
3:34 what that fancy pants. so i guess fancy pants is her day how odd but cool. or might a job thing with his look of clothes look like a job suit. or not because few second latter i see someone or pony came out of cake shop i think, at 3:36.
Hi I have a quest gin you know how loona was sent to the moon for 1,0000 years well Star Swerl was to and in seesen 7 or 8 cealestya and loona said that thay dident see them sens thay wher yung but Star Swerl was in linbow after loonu was sent to the moon ware was he beafor that time and how did he go mising beafor gowing to linbo!
Interesting Diamond Tiara Cutie represents leadership so maybe she can lead the former villains to a new way of thinking, like she said she knew her Cutie mark is to get other ponies to do what she wants ๐ lol
I think the key of reforming Tirek is Scorpan and Princess Luna. After a thousand years the brothers didnโt see each other. Maybe Scorpan can come Equestria and show him what he learned. But of course it wonโt be enough for him. Tirek wants be like his father, King Vorak. But Scorpan can show him a better way. I think he already knew how to work together with other villains. In an episode three villains , Chrysalis, cozy glow and Tirek tried to steal Grogarโs Bell. Chrysalis and cozy glow failed. But Tirek didnโt even try to steal the bell. He said you canโt do this alone we need to work together. He already knew this. All he needs is team work. He needs a family group. You are right cause with Scorpan,Chrysalis, Cozy Glow and Diamond Tiaraโs helps finally he can feel family senses. And he can reform. Good job Sawtooth ๐๐ป
Sure their reformation is being exposed to friendship, but they don't buy it at first like Discord. They themselves have a realization that power means nothing compared to friends, somewhat like Discord's situation in S4. Discord truly reformed when he lost his magic, he realized that if your in a bit of a pickle your friends would always help you out.
Regardless of how people feel about season 9, i thought they did a great job of fleshing out the villain characters. Before, Chrysalis and Tirek were just kind of, "HAHAHA, I'M EVIL!" And while they still are obviously by the finale, they are much more interesting characters due to the episodes dedicated to them. Great video!
Damn! What a wicked showing of theory-talent and plan-scheming. Now you can do other theories, such as: how did each of the ponies came to be in the place we see them in the future? And who is Luster Dawn?
Okay, now that you run down all three villains's reformation ideas, here's a question: How will you convince all of Equestria to accept these now "reformed" villains after all they've done? I doubt every creature (including the main cast) will be in a forgiving mood.
Doesnโt Tirek eat magic? I was thinking that all he was doing was feeding off of the other ponies for his own survival. I was thinking along the lines of โthe power of love can create new magic where none exists and feed you foreverโ and then heโd be set for the rest of his life. Starlight Glimmer and Queen Chrysalis could also play a part in his reformation.
Awesome! What a 120% cool plan-to-save-Equestria it was. Now you can save the fans by making new discoveries, such as: The full process that makes unicorns change from normal-looking ponies to huge, hideously beautiful sparkly monsters.
I think another method to reform Tirek is , Starlight. From the beginning , Starlight wanted everyone in her village to be the equal . So , she took all the village ponies cutie marks and put them in a cave .While she hid her cutie mark by some sorta stap . When Twilight and her friends came to her village on a friendship mission. Starlight showed a lot of cruelty on that episode. But then a later episode, showed Twilight and Spike the reason why she took all the village ponies cutie marks . Twilight said something like this , โ You donโt need power and taking cutie marks to have a friendship . And Starlight almost gotten Crystalis to reform the that one time . Maybe Starlight could try again with Tirek and be successful to reform Tirek .
Honestly... Grumpy could also help. He had expectations of finding Matilda, but became distracted and hopeless, which led to his grumpy demeanor. I think this is how Tirek is with the expectations of being powerful.
Here's a thought for you to think on for a bit? Is Sombra going to come back in gen 5 of mlp? And how could he be reformed himself?
If you look at the mlp comics with Sombra in them then you can actually see that sombra was once a good guy but he actually became overwhelmed by darkness and turned evil and on top of that he used to have a childhood friend that loved him and it was revealed that he once lived in the crystal empire. So my question is this: Can Sombra come back a 3rd time? And can he be reformed at all?
Here is the link to a comic dub of Sombra's origins and I want you to analyze this quite a bit and listen to it carefully of what goes on because if Sombra does return in Gen 5 then I think there is something from here that could help reform him
But Tirek seems weak and clearly malnourished when he doesn't have others' power. It seems like magic is food for him like love is food for changelings. There is no way to have a lifetime supply of magical power just by having friends. I think that trying to reform Tirek would basically be the same as starving him.
I don't know if they mentioned the meaning of Diamond Tiara's cutie mark in the show but I think it represents leadership not that she is spoiled how she was Leading the People of the school along with pipsqueak in the right direction of class president
Iโll take your word for it I thought about it and couldnโt come up with anything so I trust you about this. you should make a video where you reform them all
I honestly feel this will be more so a queen Chrysalis situation. Maybe the kingdom will change but not the king. But I feel one ( or two ) more ponies ( one more so not a pony ) to help if the message doesnโt become clear with the three of them. Fluttershy and discord. Considering how ( at the end so spoilers. ) they are a literal couple and one was a chaotic being who originally only cared for chaos, they would be the best picks since discord somehow knew about tirekโs motivations and, during the movie, fluttershy could talk down a attacking soldier and made him re-consider his life, they would be a โ help us if we canโt do it alone. โ type of help.
Dear Sawtooth Waves, can your next video please be on ''Reforming King Sombra''? By the way, I love how you are predicting wonderfully life in Equestria after the end of the show, plus I am your huge fan!
Since Celestia controls the sun and the thunder star and grogar was trapped in the stars does that mean Princess Celestia could of potentially released Gregor I mean it's not the first time she's had a villain released just wanted to share my thoughts on that
Being honest here , I believe a possible help to reforming Tirek would be, believe it or not, EQ Twilight. She was pressured into using her pendant's power, and stole from others, similar to Tirek.
Neat! What a nice bunch of frenemies video it was. Now you can dive into other stuff, such as: The School for Gifted Unicorns! This place seems to have a serious case of dropouts.
I was expecting to reform Tirek by making him realise that power isn't everything. And that a lot of power can't satisfy him. He could use his powers for instead of taking powers to ponies, but giving it to them, when they are in need of it.
Wow I need to watch every reformation video two or three times to fully understand them
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eric tatemura2020-08-08 23:54:59 (edited 2020-08-09 00:00:50 )
one problem here is that vorek wasn't disappointed at tirek for not being powerful enough but because he didn't cared about the values his dad tried to teach him and was power hungry from start so he betrayed the family
They reformed king somber an eternity ago in the comics. Which pissed a lot of people off. However they also tried to make iron will a villain also in the comics which I heard did not work very well. This coming from a guy who heard people complain about the season 5 finale in there reaction videos slash review because it tried to make the film flam brothers villians in the future who were back ground characters that had no dialogue and there on screen for maybe like ten seconds in that last episode.
Excuse me friend, I am a fan of mlp and I really would like to be able to appreciate your theories on possible reformed villains, the problem is that I speak Spanish and in English I am more clumsy than Derpy and I would like if it is possible to allow subtitles to be put on your videos for that the Spanish-speaking community can enjoy its splendid content.
I hope you can keep that pinky promise.
Thank you.
Hey uhm... I know this is probably not a very interesting idea to ya. But could you by chance consider making the next topic maybe focused on sombra? And why hasbro gave him the worst personality when compared to comic sombra? Perhaps maybe find a way to properly tie in an actually good story for him. And the reason why among every other villain he wasn't given a good reason to be a villain? I love sombra from the comics so it just feels like wasted potential ya know?
Ok... The only thing i disagree with is that his Father has expectations for Him. I always thought that Tirek want to look good for his father to impress him as he felt that his Father loved his brother. I always thought his brother although not "strong and powerful" is loved by his father
When is someone going to talk about Grogar's bell and what happened to it as well as what happened to Grogar's magic when the bad trio was turned back into their original forms?
What if Tirek was like thorax was in some way like the way thorax was never hungry he was able to become stronger little by little to some extent and then go back to dear old dad
Can u talk about how tempest horn hasn't grown since she was a filly, because I mean it's not like she lost her whole horn, only part of it, so why hasn't her horn grown
#dear sawtooth In the episode frienamies when the villans where about accept the light of friendship it seems that queen chrysalis had a flashback. Do you think that the mirror universe queen chrysalis cast a spell that prevented evil queen chrysalis from reforming. What do u think? Love your channel. โฅ๏ธ
i think i have an idea on how flurry heart was born an alicorn cadence was originaly a pegasus. and she was given the powers of an earth pony and unicorn. and she got more powerful unicorn magic from shining armors DNA.
Wow Sawtooth Waves That Video You Made To Reforming Tirek Is The Best-est Thing ever๐คฉ๐๐, Great Job I'm So Proud Of You๐๐๐โญโญโญโญโญ, I Can't Wait To See More Of Your New Video's๐๐, I Hope We Can See You Try To Reformed King Sombra.๐๐ค๐
Like D. Tiara she comfident of her own ways since tirek want powers to all unicorn they have same types except cosy glow that "power is friendship" and she said. They have pridism,greednity and flaw on thier ways but ist much better if is family. if your alone in the woods and your power is not enough to finish the pointed end of the dark woods your still weak and defectiv in the inner side or like your core of But like tirek he wants and he wanted like D. Tiara who is greed and stepping up to the 1st place but real talk guys. Power is still nothing to shows like all antagonists and protagonist has power. In real life powers are just imaginative things but not our personalities even tirek loses power and he de-skinned centour he stil special even he evil he need family and and friends to live on to
So I'm sorry if this seems like a hate comment but. Its a good thought to think that he could convince his dad if so be the case but that can just lead back to the problem. Why I say this is because if his father's intentions allowed on this great quest for over 1000 years then I don't think tierek can walk up to dear old dad and change that with his quote on quote new family. Its like thanos he killed his own daughter for power. So I think he's gonna need a bigger push than that. Even so tirek is probably gonna hate the ponies that put him to stone like that. As he might have the mind set that all I'm doing is having friendship nothing more so if twilight and the mane 6 are in trouble tirek probably won't care. Since he can protect his family. Discord however made a bond with ponies he doesn't like their ways but he accepts them just cause his family are the ponies. If u see where I'm going with this then tirek needs to find a way to find a bond with the ponies and not just specific individuals. Also king Voltok ( sorry bout the misspelling) might have motives behind this. No-one gets up and says I have high expectations for you son gain all of equestrias magic. Its possible that tireks father was unable to complete such a task or something of the sort. Kind of like avatar. Zoku never found peace by capturing the avatar he was just doing his father's dirty work or something(forgive haven't watched all of avatar). Some these points I have are jumbled but its what came to mind.The points you have are great but I'm just saying and plz tell me if this more like a hate comment not what I meant at all.
to me is his mother, she believe in him all the time and she will do all she can for his sons, She finally a chance to have her older son back she will do all she can and yes those you select are perfect and i think is will work but he need is mother, she believe on him and be more support more of what his father a be and i think with his first friend and his mother he can finally be in peace and maybe finally found is true calling!
I think maybe tireck if thatโs how u spell it lol I think he could maybe talk it out with his dad and the episode could start with that sort of like how starlight made up with sunburst i dont remember his name also lmao anyways and at the end cozy glow, queen crystalis, and diamond tiara could do a whole Speech in front of them
In "the cutie re-mark" when twilight was in the universe where king sambra wasn't defeated, where was Luna? Cadence? Shining armor? Did they get killed? Imprisoned? Whatever happened to them?
There is one little thing that bugs me with the show, and thus with your theory since you kinda kept that spirit: itโs this idea that every solution to any problem in Equestria has to pass through Friendship in any sort of way. I find it a little narrow-minded. Well anyway the show is the show, so if we want to keep it canonically possible we will have to go through thatโฆ But at least as an end goal, because I think that to stay realist, the first step to reform Tirek is to fix his relation with his father.
So before writing this comment I read the corresponding comic again just to make sure, and that did confirm my first impression about it.
Lord Tirekโs situation doesnโt seem to be that similar to Diamond Tiaraโs. While she was under her motherโs pressure to gain control and power, King Vorak actually did quite the opposite: noticing his sonโs power and magic potential, he feared that he would use it to take over him, and tried his best to restrain it by ignoring it. (Yeah, thatโs both bad parenting and the wrong political decision)
Discordโs perception and interpretation might as well be slightly wrong. Possession of information doesnโt mean wisdom. Especially with Discord.
So thatโs why I think that Tirek doesnโt need that much to be proven that he doesnโt need to listen to the parental guidance he received (since he didnโt receive much more than โStay inside that damn castle!โ), but rather that in order to gain daddyโs attention, confidence and throne he doesnโt need to show him power (which would be quite counterproductive since Vorak fears it), but wisdom and skills to reign fair and at least keep the country in balance with the surrounding ones.
Which, interestingly, wouldnโt be that hard to him. Tirek always seems to be the smartest out the three โfrenemiesโ. He anticipates the problems, knows what he can or cannot do, and waits for the right moment to act. He thought ahead in Frenemies, waiting for the others to fail at getting Grogarโs bell on their own and come back with experience and knowledge, instead of trying as well and exhausting himself for nothing. In the grand Finale as well, he was the first to complain about the Mane 6 being still in the wild, while the other two didnโt care out of plot arrogance in order to let the Mane 6 have a plot rest so that they can have a chance to save the world.
So, to find someone with a situation he could relate to, I donโt really believe in Diamond Tiara. Iโm more thinking of the dragons. The poor ones didnโt have a chance to make themselves useful when you handled Chrysalis : ( I think itโs time they take their revenge >: ) ! More specifically, Iโm thinking of both Thorax and Ember: the question of balance between force and subtleness in leadership is asked in the episode Triple Threat, and I think itโs a great example in many ways. So maybe talking with them both could help him see clear through this.
And then, once calmed down and seeking less power and destruction, you let him in contact with the reformed others 2, and then Bang! Friendship! Both problems solved!
Actually, maybe we wouldnโt even need to disrupt Thorax and Ember in their respective kingdoms. As I said, Tirek is smart. Maybe he could figure that out on his ownโฆ
Actually, he probably already has! Maybe Discord is more wrong than we thought, and the problem is completely other! Alright, letโs start all over again! ^^
The reason Iโm pointing this out is that we can see in the comic that Tirek actually peeked once over a discussion between his parents, where his father verbalizes his worries. And this is something that Discord couldnโt, but we do know like so that Tirek is aware of his fatherโs fear of his power, and still he does continue seeking more. Also, he looked quite teenagely rebellious about his father in the comic, claiming that he didnโt care about his reproaches. So much for family prideโฆ
So maybe he doesnโt seek his fatherโs approval at all, maybe he just wants power for another reasonโฆ
At this point I think weโre a little stuck in a loop because we still donโt know what that reason can be. And as you said, โif we're gonna figure out how Tirek can be reformed we need to know what motivates him in the first placeโ. Well at least I have no idea.
So here is what we have: a procedure to reform Tirek in both scenarios where he seeks the approval of his father because 1. he wants him to acquire more power or 2. he ignores him out of fear, and a giant hole consisting of the ignorance of all the reasons he would harness power while knowing that it scares his father, and thus a procedure to reform him in those cases.
I think I made too much thinking in a single morning to continue on. ^^โ Maybe Iโll come back to it later on my own but Iโm not sure.
@Flufux with this fact, Discord could of met Grogar himself. Tirek said that he heard of legends of Grogar when he was young, At the scene where Discord was at the comic he looked the same as the present, this shows that he possibly was born as an adult and live a immortal life or he grew when Grogar was around and then live a immortal life.
@Flufux Yes exactly, you see the problems with changelings when they disguise themselves, their pretty much a bad actor than Celestia. In order for their cover to say hidden they need to act like the original, think like the original. Discord did that, the only way to expose him is to take away his power.
@ArcheIsHere There is one problem with the idea that Discord is that old though, and that is the question of why he waited until the Tree of Harmony was fully grown (which happened long after the Pillars took the Pony of Shadows to limbo, and likely long after Grogar's reign) to take over Equestria and turn it into chaos?
@Flufux that i waa thinking of, he was in a council correct? with that fact tell me what kind of personality does Discord have from then and now. in the Past Discord was assosiated with a council, in the present he is now solo man show, maybe he felt caged and he had no freedom in the council, which could explain why he wanted freedom in the s4 finale.
@ArcheIsHere Hmmm...perhaps he was 'restricted' in some way before...or maybe hadn't grown as powerful as he would end up later at that point, or maybe he just wasn't as ambitious at the time?
Or maybe the writers just goofed up on the timeline entirely? I dunno.
@Flufux its Discord dont question it. but i am making alot of theories that Discord could be older than Grogar. and that last theory was possible, Discord indeed came to Equestria to have fun because he got bored. bored of what though? Thats the big question
I have a question, remember u talked about alicorns civilisation what if that alicorn civilisation is silver shull !u know where celestial and Luna said โa trip to silver shulls โ what if that is the home of Luna celestia ?
I can get that but Diamond Tiara was just a bully, she didnโt know much about friends she has always cared about doing things Spoiled rich did when she was a filly but I think Sunset Shimmer would be able to reform Tirek because Sunset Shimmer was evil and turned into a she-demon and took Twilightโs crown away and Iโm pretty sure her back story has to be the same as Tirekโs it would make a lot of sense they both wanted powers
Pony: appears on screen. SW: Person. Conspiracy tiiiiiiiime! Wait a second....that music....*Gasp!* You used Tirek's villany music! ๐คฏ And how does two ribcages work anyway.....how would you even know what to eat?
Yeah I know good way to reform Tri Rec you just half to create a new villain to the show or summon one like Bill Cipher William Afton and also create a mixture of timelines of Gravity Falls and Five Nights at Freddy's Brandon Graham the fight Bill Cipher and then he cargo blah blah blah blah and their crap Time stuff later you and then there's going to be a full-on war between like I don't know like Five Nights at Freddy's and Bill Cipher I guess William afton's going to join ml turkeyville for a hot second and after that I lost to Astrid just all you have to do is Mexican ask timeline with My Little Pony just as well as also makes Gravity Falls that's banana timeline as well Five Nights at Freddy's timeline as well
Starlight actually becomes a human in the movie magic thing, and sunset becomes pony in forgotten friendship, you can find them on youtube and Netflix:D
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Peter Mclean2020-08-08 20:38:47 (edited 2020-08-08 20:39:01 )
I just realised I wasn't subscribes!!!!!! Also amazing vid
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I think Stygian would be good for reforming Tirek because they are actually pretty similar. Stygianโs friends betrayed him and Tirek brother betrayed him, all Stygian wanted was the pillars respect and all Tirek wanted was to be good enough for his dad, Stygian was weak and looked for power and Tirek is clearly weaker when he doesnโt have all that magic, and lastly Stygian would protect his power at all costs and Tirek would work really hard to get and keep his powers. Since Stygian and Tirek are so similar maybe Tirek would see that if someone whoโs like him can reform he can too and that thereโs a better life he could be living.
I've read the comic for tirek and if anything, he has anything other then family pride and always snuck out to his mentor. one day he went to a cave outside of the castle he lived in to find his mentor found a pony. he absorbed his mentor's powers and got the pony to bring him to equestria. his father did not want him to become what he did if I remember the story properly.
I think Princess Tiara would theoretically have a place in Twilight's School of Friendship. She could not only teach others the value of friendship, but help reform. That could be her full time job. This idea would play really well into your reforming theories.
Hmm, an interesting theory overall. But if I can offer one tiny observation if all three are released from the stone at the same time (which they would have to be in order to keep them all separated), then it would probably help if he were to see the reformed Queen Chrysalis first, while Diamond Tiara is working on Cozy Glow. Reason being, near the end of Frenemies, Chrysalis was the one who reminded the trio of the "infection" of friendship. If she were in the full knowledge that friendship isn't the infection she fears it to be, and if he were to see that she has shed that fear, that would help his reformation far more than the advice of two little ponies, especially one who annoyed him while they were stuck in Tartarus together.
I would think that, as a similar power-chaser and villain from the past, dead set in the fact they thought they were doing the right thing and power-hungry to an extent they would bring everyone else down a notch, Starlight glimmer could reform Tirek both as her final task for Twilight, and because she not only would have the power to keep him in check, but also relate to him enough to be able to really talk to him, maybe get him to open up more about his dad and realize, in a very similar way, the path you chose in life can be backtracked, and it's never too late to make amends. Plus I feel like she might be one of the only ones stubborn and determined enough to actually stick with it and not give up on him within the first week, especially if Diamond Tiara's hooves will be full trying to reform Cozy.
I think in some ways it would be interesting if it was Discord to help Tirek. They both have sought power through disorder. Tirek destroyed important things which held up pony society (buildings, crops, control of magic) and Discord interfered with any sense of stability by creating chaos wherever he went. Tirek introduced the idea of the two becoming friends in the past, but betrayed Discord. Then after his reform, Discord was able to fight Tirek and ensure his punishment. Fluttershy at one point seemed to seek safety more than any other pony was the one to reach out to Discord the most. So, he could in theory, try to help Tirek based on this idea. They don't have to become best buddies, but Discord being the one to extend his hand to friendship and at least steer him in the right direction would show his character development in a different way. (It wouldn't just be another way of creating temporary chaos that helps the mane six in the long run.)
Pharynx makes perfect sense for queen Chrysalis and I can see a variety of options for Cozy Glow. One set of options could involve a group of individuals to hold her accountable because she's big on manipulation of others. (There are several choices for who could be in the group.) She is not hindered by social awkwardness or the need to always be seen as powerful by others, unlike the other two characters. In some ways it would be fitting if the group was not seen as powerful in general, but were able to keep her in check by making sure that what she said to one character lines up with what she said to the others.
Good job for keeping up with this reforming videos i really like them , i must say that in order for everything you said in this video and those others two happen we must ignore the comics because they also take some liberties that the series ignored later on, i must say that with those other two i had no much of an idea of how to reform them. Cozy Glow your idea is pretty good since she was not a bad pony for starter but she begins to corrupt herself later on, Chrysalis is a good idea
I have an idea of a spin off that also serves as a sequel using the young 6, my idea is that as the series centers around the adventures of the young 6 and making them solved some problems left without a solution (again ignoring the comics) by the original series like this three. My idea is to use the one villain that was left behind King Sombra, making him the adoptive dad of a young kirin that will eventually join the Y6 main group as Spike or Stygian did with the M6 and the pillars but sharing a leading role with the others, the idea with Sombra is: first use his power to disguised as a kirin to resemble his son, as the series progress Sombra start making his change due to him seeing his son making true friends and with interactions with others in the cast, later Discord finds out and begins to watch over him, next as the main cast has problems that beginning
I always had the idea that to reform Tirek, his brothert Scorpain would be the one to do it. In Twilight Kingdom when Tirek gave Discord the necklace and when Discord brought the necklace up to Tirek after he was betrayed, Tirek called his brother a traitor which shows that even though a 1000 years have passed, his brother turning against him still hurt and maybe them reconciling would help reform Tirek.
Probably a bit nitpicking on my behalf, but out of the three, I think that Tirek is probably the most reasonable and the most willing to actually sit down and have a talk with someone about this. Yes, he does have that anger issue, but itโs only if his buttons are pushed. Chrysalis looked more ready to murder than have a nice chat unless you have the same motives as her, and Cozy Glow is hardest to reform because of her young age and potentially her mentality. Also, I think Diamond would sooner run away screaming if we made her try to talk to Tirek, so my best guess is that either weโd put Discord in or maybe have an older pony who went through something similar to Diamond Tiara to try and talk to Tirek and have less of a chance that theyโd run away because theyโre probably bolder. Thatโs just in hindsight, I just donโt think itโs a good idea to risk having the potential pony who could help reform Tirek run away crying for mommy in fear because of his size shrugs
I think king vorakโs expectations include strength because he appears so weak I think this because in some of the season nine episodes he was seen wanting to appear stronger so that probably had something to do with that kinda like embers father thinking that a good leader needed to be strong
I think Zecora would be a fun pick. She was once an outsider, so she understands both ponies and non ponies. Perhaps her along with Tempest Shadow, who was betrayed by the Storm King. Tempest would see from his point of view as a former villain who felt like friendship was pointless. Zecora would be able to show him that the magic he steals still will never amount to the magic in nature and in actions. Also, I just think he wouldn't be willing to listen to a child simply because he's a stubborn goat... centaur.
I think some of his reformation is going to have to involve his brother Scorpan (who may well be King Scorpan by this point, Tirak was in Tartarus a long time) - G1 Scorpan was the crown prince of his country and if thatโs the case here Tirak might have been trying to prove himself to King Vorak because King Vorak actually favored Scorpan as the next king. Scorpan is apparently still alive because an early draft of My Little Pony: The Movie had him appear as the original owner of the Storm Kingโs staff. And for that Applejack might be helpful, because of her long-standing rivalry with Big Mac over who should inherit Sweet Apple Acres she knows exactly what itโs like to lose the kingdom you wanted to rule to your brother.
I think there is one more guy who can help Tirek - this is his Scorpan. Remember, when he came to princesses to tell them about Tirek's plans? Scorpan is a pony's friend, but if he is really good, he probably still love his brother and wants him to come back. Princess Twilight could call for Scorpan and ask him to help Tirek. He both know almost everything about each other and ths is the main thing. Scorpan knows all about their father. But I'm too lazy to write something more, so here is my theory. P. S. I'm sorry if I have some mistakes in my text, it's because English isn't my mother language.
I can see all this happening, but I also see Tirek going into exile after learning the truth on a quest for self discovery. Becoming a desperado to complete strangers and building a bigger family along the way.
well even if he gets reformed, i wonder whats about his current form. he looks and is very weak thin. shouldnt he be able to get at least some power to increase his streangth a bit, like in some of the middle episodes of season 9? take it as a kind of test, he gets some power to get back is old original form but he has to use it wisely and for good!
I agree with your point, but I think instead of Diamond Tiara again, maybe Tirek would connect better with Sunburst considering he has the same relationship with his parents and he already has magic power to rival some of the most powerful unicorns in Equestria. He's also more mature and introverted than Diamond Tiara, just like Tirek.
If DT reforming Cozy Glow isn't gonna happen in the future, I think DT reforming Tirek should. Because I think he'd take an adult more seriously than a kid. And that could also mean that he could take Cozy Glow more seriously as an adult as well. DT reforming Cozy Glow and a kid makes sense because of them being peers in that sense. As adults, they would be more representative of peers if they're adults.
There is a problem with this reforming theory, it assumes that Tirek's father Vorak is alive, or was during the time he was origionally imprisoned, and pressured him to follow his path. For all we know Vorak is dead, perhaps of natural causes, and that he left a legacy of being a powerfull leader, wich caused Tirek to feel he had alot to live up to and in his mind the only thing that could either surpas or be equivalent to is siezing the whole of equestria's magic.
Oh god, if Diamond Tiara is the solution to reforming TWO of them, I could imagine Tirek & Cozy Glow fighting over her; just like, "She's MY best friend, not YOURS!"
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Jerry Eskridge2020-08-08 01:10:56 (edited 2020-08-08 01:18:14 )
I don't know for Chrysalis and Cozy Glow there may be a possibility they have nothing to do lose if possible. However for Lord Terek he has both his daddy issue plus betrayal by his brother Scorpan bubbling in this pot of revenge a old saying is blood thicker than water he seems someone who would gamble on evil at any cost and reform would be a lose rather than a win but Sawtooth your reform do have good merit since friendship won out on revenge in the series., Great site on your amazing music, art, analysis BroHoof
At first I was like "So Tirek the centaure who doesn't give a heck about pony would be reformed by one?" And at the end I was like "Oooh ! Ok Chrysalis and Cozy Glow , the only "friends" he believe in!" It's was really weird for me to think about him being reformed by a pony but I understand the other two
I think if you want to reform tirek...you need...every six of them...I mean reformed villians, like you said if Clozy Glow and Crystalis are refirmed then they can help...what about Discord? Luna? Tempest Shadow (Fizzlepop Berrytwist)? and lastly Starlight Glimmer? They all can reform terek togheter...think about it.
I was reading the comments and realized: Triek can just take their powers. Any time he wants. I think before you can reform him you have to find a way to stop him from using his power. Because I bet as soon as he leaves stone he will try to suck up all the magic in equestria and you wouldnโt be able to reform him.
I think the best way to teach Tirek that friendship is the cure or whatnot would be to find someone who would be able to humble him. Someone or somepony to get him off his high horse, so to speak. Someone like Fluttershy. Ok, maybe not her specifically, but somepony else. I think the ones best suited for the job would be Cozy Glow and Chrysalis (post-reformed). They're really the only characters he's had any positive bond over (besides Scorpan). If they get reformed, then it's quite likely that he may follow in their hoof prints. If possible, maybe the Mane 6 can find Scorpan again, and he'll be able to help as well. His dad, if not already dead, I'd imagine would be less likely to follow his son. I'd imagine a 40/60 chance of it happening.
What about Stygian he seeked power aswell and wanted to PROVE HIMSELF aswell as tirek but he learned that friendship is the way and maybe Stygian can teach him that too.
I am definitely making a series out of this: Chrysalis- metamorphosis (she's a bug) Cozy- checkmate (she has a rook as her cutiemark) Tirek- curse (he absorbs magic) Check my channel out, please! I'll let you know when I release the videos
I think the worse thing about this...is this idea that every villain has to be saved...a tragic good person gone bad story would be refreshing for once..give it a break.
Tirek is only still alive because he was in Tartarus for all those centuries.
He is over a thousand years old, because he was around BEFORE Star Swirl and the Pillars went to limbo and Luna went Nightmare Moon.
His brother, father and gram gram have been dead for a VERY LONG time.
I'm pretty sure his home isn't even around anymore.
Klugetown is probably the last remnant of it.
Most of the reasoning works, but it should be mentioned to him that trying to live up to his father's views is also not worth it since he's already dead.
Thank you for making a reforming tirek video but I'm quite surprise that you choose diamond tiara again to reforming him and cozy glow and how come you didn't put any kind of emoji like you did with the others.
i think your idea is great but i have some ideas just like the changelings were reformed they learned that the don't have have to feed off love they can share it also the mane six can help but kinda like discord i only think rainbow dash should when she had to make a choice have have dream to join the shadow bolts or save her friends she picked save her friends i think terik should have the choice save someone he loves or pick all the power in pony vile h
Wow I like the idea, reminds me of a comment I saw on a part of frenemies saying โawwwe look theyโre a family!โ Fits nicely. But in your next theory...
Please donโt try and troll us, itโs gotten a bit old
Diamond Tiara will NOT reform any villain i saw her eyes carefully in the episode Crusaders Of The Last Mark she had cruelty in her eyes so if she goes to reform any villain she will raise them even more evil so those two will destroy Everything plus Chrysalis
Satooth: diamond tiara will reform tirek Me:SHE'S A LITTEREL CHILD satooth:*brings in cosy glow and chrysalis* Me: Phew i thought you wanted a child to reform a thousands of year old pony ๐ฅด
That'd be pretty funny to watch though. Him reacting to turning into a pony, or instead if he stayed human he could be reacting to randomly appearing in a world full of ponies, and everyone else would have entertaining reactions to seeing a human
I donโt think diamond is the key it is discord think about it discoed turned into stone to so does tirek he could tell tirek how fluttershy reformed him and again no evil queen to stop tirek he would reform
Finally the series is over! Its an OK series, but I'm still waiting for a Pony Life rant! Or a "Does Tempest Have a Cutie Mark" theory. Dude! Give us TheBronyNotion charm! Just bring us something new... (and nothin with changelings k?)
what if discord did discord has always wanted power he mastivious but still changed and cozy glow wanted power for difrent reasons so they can both explain saw tooth last but not least luna ...she wanted power of jealousy if they can all embrace why they could change him why i thought of discord look he has bean wantin power why because he's dishormany his past was him created for one thing difrent then dishormony hormony he's part of it think of pinkie pie as a nother element u wonce sed pinkie is like discord pinkie is a elemtal pony shy has some of those wierd powers of discord witch means she to could help reform him i mean
I have a question I need a theory for it sooooo please sawtooth read this comment!!!!!
So in the last episode of season 9 aka the last episode of mlp we see twilight helping someone with Friendship. But.....at the end of that episode when the mane six unite we see a filly with pinkie.....for some reason this filly resembles pinkie pie now I don't remember her name but I doooo remember pinkie saying this "Sorry I am late I couldn't find a babysitter for ( I don't remeber) cheese.....could it be this filly is......... pinkies child !!!!! I have no idea if this could be true...please sawtooth find some info about this to see if it's true.... sorry I don't remember the filly's first name. Love your vids!!!๐๐๐
So there is a better way to reform the villains sooo here thorax and Dimond tiara are the answers so how about this we teach cozy glow and therek and then the queen so that is good cause cozy glow and terek are very dangerous soo therw
she dose have powers like discord so if she a not eviel with power like that what if discord have a elament to but a good one how does this help reform him proves that discord is a lesson lerner and can help ok get why didnt u think of it that way
Oh I donโt know how about smidge from my little pony you know the guy who are trapped in the black shadow thing I want to give a friend in the old main 6 Ha how about that guy
Chirsailis has like to Zombra to Terik this girl want a man really bad maybe but he first episode that discord pertended to be the ram she was standing right next to Zombra
Do you want about why are you in different episodes are you deaf and one of the episodes you had a horn one of the episodes of wings one of the episodes you had a horn and wings one of the episodes you only had well you donโt have anything to you you were a regular pony you you actually didnโt do a thing that was in and do you want about a non-pony I donโt want about a pony that that that turned evil after she found out that she wasnโt a real pony she was that you have to find out when my next message
Intresting and so so true. Well I can't wait to see what the fandom does with your insights. On how to help them become better or how ever they take the story they write.
I actually thought you were going with Luna on this one. Her story of feeling overshadowed by a greater royal presence and needing to do anything to take her own spotlight might resonate.
I was thinking sunset shimer would be a possible way to reform Tirek for the reason that they both wanted power, yes their stories are different but they had the same goal but since sunset has a role in the human world and by leaving it she can't help defend it from more villains that use equestrian magic her world would technically be in danger if she left to reform tirek besides no one pony would know how long it could take to reform him so many sunset would not be able to help but still its an idea
I am very curious about Scorpan. Scorpan could be an invaluable piece in the puzzle of reforming Tirek. At some point, no matter how one would go about redeeming Tirek, he would reach the point of "My father isn't worth it" and no matter how toxic oneยดs family members might be it would still hurt. Having Scorpan there would help him think of reforming as maybe getting a chance to fix things with his brother.
I love your vids sawtooth, if these villans got reformed that would leave, I think, one unreformed villain........ King Sombra! I would love to see you ideas on how to refom this villian
The biggest problem with this theory is that assuming once Tirek finds true friendship, and his motive's removed, he'll change. I don't think it'll make his personality or moral alignment change much. But the resolution of his issues and finding a new family in the Trio might give him the strength to face going back home.
You could also do Babs seed for Cozy glow. Babs did also do some 180 turn after realizing diamond tiara and silver weren't the greatest friends and she too wanted power over those she once bonded with.
I agree, Diamond Tiara does have the right mindset to help Tirek, but another choice could be Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst, who also had parent problems. They both left the town angry and annoyed at their parents, maybe they could show Tirek how to reconcile with his father, and how they could compromise over what is best.
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Kevin M.2020-08-07 21:29:45 (edited 2020-08-16 18:22:46 )
I somehow think that theory is probubly the best theory we are ever gonna get for the mlp fim series. Before hearing the idea that Tirek can still be reformed and who would be an ideal "mentor" into reforming Tirek, I saw Tirek as more like what most anime villains I have seen and heard of would be like. As in their origin was either; 1) The loss of someone they love SO much 2) They went through a lot of heartbreaking misadventure in one go and then end up having not much time to live (ex. They lose their job, their home, and their family and then get cancer all in a short amount of time). 3) Their whole life was similar to, in not worse than, Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer 4) (in Tirek's case) having a severe relationship problem with their family. At the same time they would show that they are willing to risk anything just to have all the power of existence. In other words, I honest first saw Tirek as more like a villain who would make his last words be something more like "ON MY HONOR! I PROMISE I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL AND LIVE AT ALL COST!" if he got into a losing situation that was more like what they show in most anime (especially Yu-Gi-Oh) all the time.
I agree diamond shower could definitely help but I think the help of Trixie or starlight might be good as well considering both of them at one point or another trying to seek and find more power even when they succeeded they found out they were flaws with this and eventually sufficed to friendship
Hi Sawtooth Waves, Have you considered the MLP FIENDship is Magic comics? Iโm not sure how much the comics apply to the actual show, since the Season 9 premier portrays King Sombra as totally black-and-white with no close relationships (i.e. Radiant Hope). However, since King Vorak is apparently canon, Iโm assuming that the issue revealing Tirekโs backstory is applicable. In FIENDship is Magic Issue 2, King Vorak discouraged stealing Pony magic and imprisoned Tirekโs mentor Sendek the Elder for doing so. I donโt believe Vorak would have wanted his son to do the things heโs done over those past hundred years. The issue ends with Tirek vowing to overthrow his father, implying that he was driven by a desire for power which may have been solidified by Sendek (perhaps Tirek even viewed him as a martyr of a sort). I think Tirekโs relationship with Vorak is more based on resentment for conflicting ideals, though perhaps Tirek does want his father to respect him. Honestly, I think your idea about the family element could be on the money, but I actually think that Twilight might actually be better suited for helping Tirek with his rehabilitation. Twilight is a total perfectionist, and before she was even concerned with self-actualization, she based her whole life around seeking approval from from authoritative mentor figures, i.e. Celestia and Starswirl the Bearded. Twilight unfailingly took Celestia and Starswirlโs words as scripture, even when she knew the facts didnโt align with them or it went against her own moral judgement. Perhaps Tirekโs redemption arc could even feature both Twilight and Tirak admitting and accepting that sometimes people they respect, even people you love and trust can misguide or even take advantage of you. That might not sound like a plausible issue for the show to cover, but in Part 2 of the Season 7 finale, they did actually discuss this exact topic when a self-assured Starswirl refuses to consider Twilightโs ideas. Perhaps this redemption arc could even conclude with an affirmation that โin order to earn respect you must not only be stand up to someone else you respect, but openly acknowledge your own faults. True friends are willing to honestly point out what they are doing wrong, acknowledge their own wrong doings, and learn from the mistakes they madeโ. This is just me projecting my own ideas and honestly, I donโt think it would really work. People who live for the pursuit of power spend their whole lives trying to fill a cup with no bottom. If Tirekโs journey is anything like we saw in Breaking Bad, his lust for power would likely be so deeply imbedded that I donโt think there is anything else he wants to do. I donโt think he would want anything to do with his actual family and vice versa, but I do think that if Tirek can let go of his obsession with power in favour of a new family (i.e. Chrysalis and Cozy Glow), I think his future could be opened up wide. If I may refer you to a wise, if not somewhat clichรฉ, saying, โThere will never be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power.โ
I love this tirek is one of my favorite character in my little pony heโs so amazing I love centaurs their my favorite mythological creature ever ๐
awesome theory, awesome video, but one thing. what if king vorak would be disapointed in who tirek is NOW? what if tirek went home and told his father what he did? maybe that would be the key to reform tirek, his father being furious with his evil deeds
I can't even describe my reaction when he said Diamond Tiara... Again. :p But in all seriousness, I really liked this theory. Although, if it were me, I think I'd change it a bit. We know from when we were first introduced to Tirek that he doesn't value friendship. Discord had just as much in common with Tirek as Diamond Tiara, and even when Discord literally shoved their friendship in Tirek's face, he still didn't care. Going off of his need to live up to his father's expectations, I think the key lies not in Diamond Tiara, but actually in Spoiled Rich. I think for Tirek specifically, he doesn't need to see someone else just like HIM. He needs to see someone just like HIS DAD in order to truly understand that he doesn't need the approval of horrible people.
Good theory, but I have one thing first. So you said that Diamond Tiara is the key to reforming Cozy Glow and Tirek, which you explained quite well, but I still don't understand. I'm just wondering how she can reform two villains at once. Does she work on Cozy first and do Tirek after or the other way around? Maybe Silver Spoon could be of help to her since she can't do two villains by herself. Just to let you know, I agree with your theories, but like always, there are still things to be considered.
Ok, I know this is a stretch, but you should totally do a bonus King Sombra reforming video, I know he refused to work with the others and got defeated, it's still kinda interesting to look at the 'what if's
I just wanted to say. Twilight... IS USELESS. I get she is the princess of friendship (and a little bit of a dictator cough *cough*) but like if she was the princes of friendship, why does she need to be reminded over and over what friendship is. Even in these fan made stories like the โdaughter of discordโ she just goes straight to banishment but when friendship I shown to save the day she says sheโs learned something from them and is proud of them showing the mAGiC oF fRiEnDsHiP. Maybe celestia made a mistake๐ค
Not only do I think Dimond Tiara could help, but so could Luna. Think about it, Not only was Scorpan the issue, but he resented his brother as well. Who also resented their sibling? Luna. Who thought their sibling was overshadowing them and wasn't allowing their power to shine? Luna. So yeah, I agree that Dimond Tiara can help with Tirek's Daddy Issues, but Luna can help with the Sibling Rivalry as well. Now whether or not his brother is still alive is unknown, but if he was, Luna could help Tirek with the reconciliation with the two brothers. Just my thoughts ^_^.
That idea kinda reminds me of what happened to Baron Zemo in Avengers Assemble. We see that Zemo has always tried to live up to his father and gain his respect, but his father was abusive and constantly put him down. Cap eventually convinced Zemo his father wasnโt worth getting respect from and Zemo turned on him. Ironically, this action earned Zemo the respect of his father, but as Zemo said by that point โyet I no longer careโ.
Funny coincidence: In Bionicle, one of the Rahkshi breeds is named Vorahk. They can absorb physical strength from their enemies and use it for themselves.
It could be also like when cozy glow and chriysilas talk to him he goes "you two are weak we were better when we had the power you two are useless" and he runs off and then they get attacked by giant monster things or something and tirek thinks about what they said and he hears screaming and he sees they are stuck or something and he saves them and they say "u saved us thank you tirek" and feels a feeling he has never felt before and he agrees with them and then he accepts their friendship
I think stygian would be great to talk to die terik. He was over come with not having enough power so he saught out power to prove his worth, much like terik. He got ultimate power but at what cost? He lost his actual friends and only caused harm to where he lived. Stygian could teach terik that power isn't what you need to prove yourself.
I think u r right. The way to reform Tierek is having Diamond Tiara and his other friends or allies say this is the way friendship is the cure to ending power and stuff.
Sawtooth, I would very much like it if you solved the mystery of the princesses floating hair, I mean how does it just float like that?! Please solve this in your next vid
Great video BUT I don't really agree wanting to prove himself to his father. I don't know why, but I just have a nagging feeling that it's something else. I'm the comic Fiendship is Magic (totally recommend) king vorak said he was scared of tirek. I'm not saying that your theory is wrong, and that vorak wasn't disappointed in tirek, but I just a nagging feeling that something isn't right...
Is it possible to reform sombra? I mean if discord can literally revive him once im sure he could do it again. So maybe he can be the fourth reformed villain from the league of grogar
I know itโs not mlp related but I wish toffee from star vs the forces of evil had a redemption . Would you be able to have one for him if you have seen the show?
You ever noticed how tirek and (hordak?) are *siblings* but they are different creatures. What if there father was someone who adopted lost kids/creatures and raised them to take over equestria just like Prime did in She Ra. This is very far fetched but hey
I would honestly thought you would have said twilight and diamond tiara both. They both went through things similar like twilight's need to impress Celestia and we'll diamond tiaras parent situation obviously.
I think Starlight Glimmer is a better choice, cause all she wanted was power and to show off she has it, also her past was that her best childhood friend showed her up unknowingly, by showing how much power he had, so she should show Tirek that power is not everything but that friendship can fill that hole, and when she does that he notices that she's right and he reforms. But that is just my opinion, your idea is fine. Hope you notice and heart me.
And then Tirek adopts Cozy Glow, marries Chrysalis and opens gym with Iron Will. Uncle Sombra visit sometimes, while he is not busy trying to take over Crystal Empire (Starlight and Twilight reformed him, but dude needs a hobby) , and Grogar is confused why do they call him 'grandpa' when he actually DOES returns
Diamond tiara wouldn't reform tirek. One because she doesn't have enough backbone for it. Two she would likely be a victim of tirek's magic consuming rampage. The only one I think who could reform tirek would be spike and discord. I know that sounds far fatched but here me out. Spike has always know what it was like to be weak and pathetic when it comes to his own race. No one treated him like a fellow dragon until he was able to show friendship in his homeland. Spike found inner strength in this journey as well as empathy for his race. Discord would be needed in tirek's reformation because he actually knows about his past. This could lead both spike and discord taking tirek to the dragon lands for a lesson in friendship. Perhaps this could allow tirek to feel confident in who he is and well as deal with his desired to affirmed by others.
I love your idea on how to reform the villainies but I have a good one to like 1st let them do something good why not wait put out let me rephrase that very deep 1st let them do something bag then let them do something good see which 1 felt better and then which every 1 felt better that's 1 they take if its the evil to go back to stone if its the good they go make more friends and here it goes back with his people but I don't even know tyreke stad was a king I don't even know of that tyreke was a Prince or that his I don't even know who his father was and I certainly day know who king Baltimore was when I king while this I can't say that word right but anyway I hope you take my idea into consideration
Great theory and all but wouldnโt this put too much pressure on diamond? Like if I was a recovering bratty little girl I would freak out if I was expected to reform two of Equestrias greatest villains but idk maybe with time it would just happen naturally
i like your idea but i think somepony else can help too and that pony is.... coco pommel!
she had been manipulated and put down by suri until she realised its not everypony for themselves. she could help tirek understand this maybe.... idk though.
Did you see the Diamond and Dazzle comics? Diamond Tiara and her cat Dazzle had to deal with one guy. A purple imp named Illy. Illy was once part of Impish Industries and have been working behind the Rich families back. Then when Filthy met Illy, he made a deal with him. By the time Diamond was born, Illy became her client. But then things were out of hand when on Diamond's fifth birthday, she was given a cat named Dazzle. Things were getting along until Illy decided to play out with these two. First, he locks the two inside the video game world and places his company marks on both of them. The second time is when Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon were having a sleepover. Illy took in the disguise of a cat and tired to take Dazzle. Diamond Tiara was the first to recognize Illy by his voice. Illy was then stopped. Then Illy placed a trial on Diamond Tiara and Dazzle. Silver Spoon became the hero and prevented to two from being separate. Then Diamond Tiara got into another confrontation with Illy. Then we found out that Illy had two gems, The Heart's Desire and The Heart's Reproach. She stopped the chaos from the gems and returned to normal. However, according to its creator, Magarblutooth, Diamond and Dazzle takes place shortly after season three of the current show. Can you imagine that the villain of the season four premiere would actually be Illy the Imp? That would be a game changer for the series. Well, I hope Illy might know what he was doing when the villains were around at season eight and nine. Imagine was Illy would do if he comes face to face with the new ruler of Equestria, Princess Twilight Sparkle.
"And pressures Pasif----- I mean, Dimond Tiara.... " You. You just made a Gravity Falls reference... ๐ Next you'll start theorizing on how to reform Bill Cypher right? ๐๐ But seriously, that'd be cool.
Um well I think that is a good idea but wouldnโt he just try to bring them back down ? And diamond tiara would just be overwhelmed I think that there needs to be someone to help her donโt you think ?
catra and shadow weaver, shadow weaver always wanted catra to do better but she was holding back and now after shadow weaver's betrayal she thirsts for power.
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If tirek reformed and went back home what if his dad got in his head and turned bad again like what happened with discord on the second time tirek tried to take over equestria
Hey, Sawthoot, pls make a vid about foreshadowing in mlp Heres my best example: Pinkie:"and will put you into trances" Remind you of discords first apperance?
Storm King and Sombra would be interesting...though it'd be really hard to predict how to reform Grogar when we know virtually nothing about him and he's most likely long dead.
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Tirek is a Demonic Centaur, Demons donโt reform. Not every villain can be reformed there has to be a least one villain in the universe. Without villains, cartoons would be boring.
Just because he's red, have horns and is evil doesn't actually make him a demon. Also, the one villain we know of who was an actual demon (Sunset Shimmer) did reform.
However, I do agree that Tirek is perhaps a bit too evil to be reformed.
@Mary Monster and Creator Mary Yeah, the G1 versions of them. That probably wouldn't apply for their G4 versions. Besides, I think deeming him to be irredeemable because he's 'demonic', whatever that means, isn't the best argument.
If he is irredeemable, it's not because he's a 'demon', which I very much doubt he is...but rather because he's an overly-entitled narcissistic sociopath who's addicted to stealing magic.
You're my person singing dog play with your hands and you got him new what you have what I do you know like we see the movie of Music in Pleasant Point and there is Delta is fixing so how do you say you just so good that you went to
I imagine Diamond Tiara would probably be all grown up when she takes on this task. You know, like that clip someone made that was inspired by your Cozy Glow video.
Diamond would actually work for all three. Chrysalis wanted power, Diamond could show her just how far hunger for power took her - mocking Scoots, tormenting CMCs for not having cutie marks... She could show Chrysalis that something was missing from her life, and that was friendships she developed with the CMCs who helped her to break away from her mother. Diamond alongside Pharynx would showcase how much friendship enriched their lives without losing their identity. Diamond found that she is a leader and not born to be spoiled and manipulative. She wants what's best for others through her leadership. It's a quality that Chrysalis might eventually develop through Diamond's and Cosy's reformations. It would even be interesting for her, Tirek and Starlight to have a long conversation about how Starlight reformed, and Starlight will admit that she still has some of her old temptations to rule over others and using magic to do so. But, chooses not to. She could turn to Chrysalis and say that she never meant for her to be replaced and for her culture to change so drastically. Tell her that friendship isn't the cause, but her people losing their sense of culture. And turn to Tirek to advise that no amount of power could ever fill that hole she felt from her childhood. Only through friendship has she reconnected with Sunburst and became a counsellor and later a school headmare. None of that was in sight when she led selfishly to satisfy selfish means. Only when she started to care for others on a deeper level and learned to friendship again that she flourished.
Diamond is something Mane Six just aren't, and that's in the shoes of those they want to reform.
You have no idea how much hope this would've provided for the lore if these three actually were reformed. Having Chrysalis rejoins the changelings and having Tirek spread friendship to the centaur nations would've showed fully how the magic of friendship grows.
What about Luna? She was driven to become nightmare moon because she could not live up to the power her sister held. She was expected to be regal and grateful when nobody looked at it from her point of view. She was always in her sisters shadow and looked down upon. Then she was finally reformed and became better. She realized that life is not a competition for power. Luna would be a good example because rather than her parents, her own sister was the one who she felt like was causing people to look down on her.
I think that also Tempest/Fizzlepop would also be a good contender for reforming Tirek. her backstory left her wanting to get her horn back to make her feel complete and normal, and when Twilight shown her the way, she gave up on searching her quest on having the power of a complete unicorn and accepted her hornless head
I'd like to point out that no, he's not a prince, he's still very much a lord because he's the younger sibling, making his older brother Prince Scorpan, which is a callback to his origin story in G1 where he was a human prince who was turned by Tirek into his weird creature form (i have no idea what creature Scorpan is supposed to be) and served him so that he may lift the curse eventually.
There is one glaring issue with this idea though: the actual reason Vorak didn't love Tirek.
Given that the episode specifically mentioned a character who only appeared in a specific issue of the Fiendship is Magic comic, then it's fair to assume that that issue is canon...and in it, Vorak didn't trust Tirek specifically because of son's interest in magic. He saw how power-hungry his son was and denied him power out of fear that he would abuse it, which made it seem to Tirek that his father didn't love or respect him. Tirek learned to steal magic specifically to grow powerful enough to overthrow Vorak, or at the very least become so powerful that his father wouldn't be able to hold him back or tell him what to do...and that was something that Vorak tried to stop as much as he could.
Basically, Vorak did not want Tirek to go around stealing magic, Tirek wanted to steal magic to make up for his father's distrust in him...and possibly to spite him.
You forgot to mention how throughout the season, Tirek was the only one not to try and betray his allies like Chrysalis and Cozy tried to do. This just goes to show that the idea of family is indeed important to Tirek.
ya i was not expecting that, i also think that cozy glow could help in the way that another of tirekโs motivations was he genuinely saw the ponies as inferior, i think after he had worked with cozy glow nearly dooming equestria he might see they arenโt as weak minded as he first thought
Stygian was first that came to mind because you showed him. He wanted to impress and gain the trust of the founders of the tree, because he united them. He wanted to help and be recognized for it, and impress everyone. There was also Luna, which should have been the first to come to mind, who wanted to please the kingdom and earn the whole kingdom's love and respect at the same degree her sister had. I earnestly feel like Diamond was not cut out this time.
Question, could King Sombra have ever been reformed if he wasn't quote on quote " dispelled into the either"? Technically Discord brought him back once so he could do so again or teach the spell to Twilight or Starlight. Please consider this because I'd like see your take on this.
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David Brennan2020-08-07 18:59:47 (edited 2020-08-07 19:09:50 )
Vorak disapproves of Tirek because of his behavior as a sociopath which is the early stage of his villainy and feared that he might try to overthrow him due to having more magic. He is a good king. As for Sendak, he inspires Tirek to steal magic and make it his goal. Even if Tirek find out why Vorak disapproves of him, it wouldn't even matter to him. Power still motivate his plans. Also, his hatred for friendship by viewing it as a weakness and new form of imprisonment can be too tough to beat. Just thought I say something and tell you some basics for you to know.
I think Tirek's reform could be improved with a Road Trip! Get Chrysalis and Cozy reformed and reunite with Tirek. Then get Diamond Tiara and company to drag Tirek back home and help him with his 'family matters' and whatever else might be wrong with his homeland. Discord could transform into a 'magic school bus' and fly them all there, Last Airbender style. It'll be awesome to have Celestia and Luna tag along. Who else should go?
I was thinking maybe Moondancer? She was driven by something else-to learn every thing to I think beat Twilight or something, but she had friends as Tirek had his brother, and they both thought that their friends/family were irrelevant until someone showed them. Maybe too much Twilight cross promo, but it still works I think.
I disagree. I think seeing his old comrades happy will just make him angrier and feel betrayed. He's not going to bend his knee to a tiny filly. I think there's a different pony he could connect with, someone who's earned respect and been through a lot, someone much more mature who had to deal with being in the shadow of an older relative a lot longer than anyone else. It's Luna. Of course he'd probably try to steal her magic, but that's why it's important that it's her. If she can form a bond with him, a true bond of mutual respect and longing for their older relative to acknowledge them, Luna can show him that you don't need a sibling or a parent to prove your worth. She'd also be the ultimate test for him. If he stole her magic, he'd ruin any chance at friendship he could've had with her. He would see how much he'd hurt her, and be reminded of the pain his dad caused him. I think Luna is the key to reforming Tirek, not a weak filly who he'd never respect in a million years.
Also, a good lesson that Tirek needs to learn is that family is stronger when it's chosen, not by blood. His father will never bow to friendship, and I think Tirek would be healthier realizing that Vorak just isn't good for him. There's no point in trying to convince a toxic family member that the old way is wrong, they'll just keep being toxic and unhealthy. However this doesn't mean he has to throw out all his relatives, I think after bonding with Luna, he'll see her relationship with Celestia and want to rekindle with his brother. After then, he'll be open to friendship and be reformed.
edit: Tempest Shadow would also be a safe bet, they could relate with the feeling of betrayal and feeling of powerlessness when it comes to magic. In my opinion, a mix of these two could be healthiest for Tirek. Just reforming with Luna might make him feel patronized, and solely with Tempest may make him consider evil more than he should.
Great job reforming the villans but there were three easy ways 1. Twilight could just used the reforming spell she wanted to use on discord. 2. Discord could have used his magic on them like he used on mane 6 when he first came. 3. Fluttershy could have used the stare.
I still think Tirek needs more than those three come on 1000 years?Maybe they should convince the father first because he is the reason Tirek wants the magic.
No offence, (big fan) but I think another reason he did what he did (stealing the magic and whatnot) was to prove to his brother scorpan that they should take magic instead of embracing friendship. We also see that when he was talking to discord (when he betrayed him) he said that friendship isnโt what he should choose, the same kind of thing happened when the backstory was being told. Even though his brother (who he must have trusted) said that he should choose friendship over power, tirek didnโt listen. So Iโm not so sure that it will be that easy to reform him. Or what Iโm saying is completely wrong ๐ .
I think Discord should also share his experience since it would br very similar to what trek might be going through
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Ike Sc2020-08-07 19:05:26 (edited 2020-08-07 19:12:04 )
Tirek: I am surprised that someone with your intellect does not see this friendship is but a new form of imprisonment. Clearly you had to abandon your true nature to stay in their good graces."
Tirek: "You are Discord, you are legend you cannot fall into the same trap that claimed my brother."
Discord: "But you said this is a sign of your gratitude and loyalty. A gift from someone close to you." Tirek: "My brother who betrayed me. It is as worthless as he is."
What we can gather from this is that Tirek sees friendship as another form of imprisonment, and is fighting not just to impress his Father, but to also to avoid being imprisoned one way or another. He is given the option of either disappointing dear old dad, or being imprisoned. So while yes, he would need to be shown he doesn't have to obey his father, he also needs to be shown that friendship is not a prison, which i think would be a little harder to do. As you said, he has spent a thousand years imprisoned by ponies. Thats a long time to be solidifying your belief system. The older someone is, the harder it is to change their view and opinion on just about any major topic. Just try and sway a 70 year olds political beliefs. You won't get very far. And all of this after he was betrayed by his brother, his close friend who he was supposed to conquer along side... Man, this guy has got family issues...
Edit: Also, there was something about weak minded equines who offer him nothing, so he needs to know, if not powe, what does he get out of this?
Last time I said that the real reason behind Luna becoming nightmaremoon was that celestia had all the powers and magical abilities that luna had cause if you think about it you will see that in episode 1 in the tale of the 2 sisters it was said ," the elder sister then took responsibility for both Sun and Moon and harmony has been maintained in equestria ever since " . This is it luna might have known about this or when she got to know about this she would have become jelous of celestia and whould have thought that she has no purpose . But there is an other theory too , when celestia banished luna using the elements of harmony she would have taken some of luna ( nightmaremoon's) magic that allowed her to raise the moon . Hey if you want you should make a video about this
Last time I said that the real reason behind Luna becoming nightmaremoon was that celestia had all the powers and magical abilities that luna had cause if you think about it you will see that in episode 1 in the tale of the 2 sisters it was said ," the elder sister then took responsibility for both Sun and Moon and harmony has been maintained in equestria ever since " . This is it luna might have known about this or when she got to know about this she would have become jelous of celestia and whould have thought that she has no purpose . But there is an other theory too , when celestia banished luna using the elements of harmony she would have taken some of luna ( nightmaremoon's) magic that allowed her to raise the moon . Hey if you want you should make a video about this
They should bring these 3 villains back in the next gen, just cause sticking them in a statue wonโt work, as we saw with Discord. He escaped his Stone prison, yah it took a long time but he did it, but couldnโt do it a second time... so whatโs to say these 3 canโt do it after some time? Stone weakens over time, give it long enough and theyโll be able to bust out
that's a good thing to know if you only care about power you'll just end up alone diamond tiara almost ended up like her mom did all alone with out friends.
Itd be hard to forgive these attacks for the ponies and if someone reminds him of these had times its hard to know what his answer is gonna be: laughing about it? Or turning away from Ponyville? Itd be even mysterious...Tirek would eventually try forming them back to evil just as he did with discord.But there is still a Tiara and Thorax's brother to help them not return to the baddie gang. Diamond Tiara is a very good choice again tho shed be a perfect example with her Mother spoiled brat bruh but good theory!
i originally thought that Tirek was a lost cause. but now i see that he has total daddy issues. plus this short series would make a good fan fic story. and i intend to make that happy.
i was thinking that the way to reform tirek is sunset shimmer because she had power but gave it up and she can travel within the two worlds with twighlights mirror and one other teleporter that is in a different location she can show tirek a better way of life because she know many people and ponies that have made mistakes
How about luna? She was kinda invisible to other ponies, I mean, her night was, so she became nightmare moon to just make others notice her work. I know it wasnt the only reason, but I am sure that she just wanted her work to finally be noticed. I think its some kind of trying to impress to her subjects, like: I am powerfull and I can make night last forever, I can rule on my own (,,there can be only one princess in Equestria [...]โ) so she was also trying to prove her worth
Im not sure is Diamond Tiara is the key... Tbh i think Scorpan would be a better option since he was literally was with him throughout his time. Sure it will take a while but it will be worth it because in the villain comic Tirek was in the wrong due to morbid curiousity and a thirst for power. Vorak was scolding him because what he did was wrong and jeopardized relations between his kingdom and the empire. Family was never the problem here it was simply his urge to learn was what went wrong. It was tainted and twisted so i also think a scholar like Ocelus or even Moondancer can help since neither of them openly opposed him in the past and they can share in his interest in the learning of magic without being twilight. He just needs that want of being knowledgeable in magic to become pure in intention again
Anyone else notice that during during different periods of the video Sawtooth used Magic Thief, the Tirek inspired piece of the Villans album, as backround music?
idea for a special called a strong reform: when an all powerfull Bull (p..s not iron will) named Lord Rampage tries to take over equestria with his army of bull minions, the mane 6 wants tirek to help them to stop him and his army before he takes over equestria forever.
I know the point of the show is friendship is magic but I think the point of putting the villain in stone is that some people are just really horrible in unredeemable and maybe you canโt change everyone
My opinion is Stygian would be a better mentor for Tirek. Both wanted to show their strength in order to impress someone. Stealing power/artifacts in order to become stronger. And both getting trapped for thousands of years. Yet Stygian could show that he didn't need the power since his freinds in the end saved him from himself. And to me tirek would see how his goals were hurting not only his friends/family like scorpan.(and if we're talking comics kinda sorta vorak since he wanted peace between equestria. But that's the comics and eh its iffy)But also caused his imprisonment in Tartarus.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! Great minds think alike! I wanted the other two to show up in here and they did! To quote Twilight when she got her cutie mark: Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes!
What if king Vorak is like Odin in the MCU? What if Titekโs attempts to impress his father by stealing magic was misplaced similar to Thor and Lokiโs attack on the frost giants in the first Thor movie. That would explain why Vorak never sought vengeance for his son being locked up because he saw it as a suitable punishment and a potential leaning/humbling experience!
When you compare Tirekโs motivations with Thor/Lokiโs everything falls into place!
He's kinda that in the comic Vorak appeared in. However, Tirek never actually tried to impress his dad, he went against his father's wishes and learned how to steal magic and grow more powerful than Vorak so that he couldn't tell Tirek what to do anymore.
Needless to say, Vorak was quite ashamed of what his son turned into, and considering he did not want to make an enemy of Equestria, he was probably okay with them locking Tirek in Tartarus.
You choose diamond tiara and I thought it was going to be stygian I was literally completely shocked I like you already use diamond tiara for cozy glow how can you use her again for T-Rex
Think about it the reason Discord free from the spell of the element magic the time princess of moon and sun cast it is because of sctaalo and her friends including Applejack younger sister and Rarity Sister are fighting of names one say distraction etc that's why discord free because of negative energy of free like Pinkie Pie has Caos magic/embrassing the magic of caos so posible the tree free too
Why does every villain need reforming? Seriously. Tyreck should atleast not be reformed. Their crimes are to big. Also zuko would be the perfect person to reform however his name is. Because if he canโt get it to work he can cook him alive. But I still say none of them shouldโve been reformed (none as in the 3 you said.)
Imagine Wagons yeah but discord didnโt destroy equestria. He just changed it then changed it back he didnโt steal everyoneโs magic, destroy equestria and then try to take over equestria AGAIN
Princess Celestia is the reason Discord free think about Discord is not just a villain before in almost last season and episodes he is a star fruit he go to bad side to good side until he meet fluttershy.She just forget to sucured it a place so any pony that chaos like scootalo did anger,hatred etc so posible the three free as long their's a pony's or creature's that want of power,Love is taken not Grated,And Greedieness they will be free no time
What if the king isnโt a bad dad it is possible that tereks brother was good an Terek felt he needed to do better it could be an act of jealousy. Like if you agree
I think the perfect one is Tempest Shadow, she has a story super similar, she wanted her horn and was fully willing to be second in command and prove it to the storm king, but was betrayed.
I would also say Stigein or Stigien or how ever you spell it, the former Pony of Shadows... he looked up to his friends but felt like he was not good enough.
Iโm actually an hour going to I even have a little sister and little brother who are Alcorns to actually Iโve got two little sisters or Alcorns I donโt have just one Iโve got two so yeah
Tirek and Cozy:I will never be reformed
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True
27 likesbut they can't
5 likesyes so true
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3 likesso true diamond tiara is the hero to every villien beside chysalis
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0 likes:3 so true
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1273 likesDiamond tiara: I can relate
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Hi Lark dash and really funny comment banana ๐ banana ๐
2 likes@Thioro Fall Hi Mormoon!!!
0 likesUnderrated comment
1 likeLol
0 likesAlso applies with the Queen Chrysalis in some way lol!
0 likesThe only way to reform a villian, is to have them relate to an already reformed villian
1 likeI think before even attempting to reform Tirek, we would need to know more about his family and his relationship with them. Itโs possible that his dad isnโt a bad person and that he just failed to show Tirek that he loved and valued him.
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You know, I actually see your point in this, " never judge someone without knowing the whole story"
6 likesYeah good point......๐
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467 likes"no it's tirek"
"T-rex, that's what i said!"
"no you- It's tirex"
"Tire we have come to take bak our magic"
"*triggered*"
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Calm down, Trumbeak.
34 likes@Pikminfan67 see like she/he said terik
5 likesRoundtrip?
12 likesThis reference ๐
5 likesBro calm down Tornado
8 likesCalm down Trombone
9 likesCalm down, Turkey
13 likesCalm down turnip
9 likesIts ok Tall tall, calm down
6 likesCalm down Turtleneck..
7 likesCalm down, Trinket
6 likesNo it's tirek
5 likesTunic
LMAO THESE REPLIES-
4 likesI forgot I made this comment lol
Oh hush now terack
3 likesYep, thatโs round trip
2 likesโMy name is T i r e kโ
4 likesโHello Trebek.โ
Calm down Tic Tac
5 likesTangerine has daddy issues, can relate-
3 likesCalm down, Trachea
1 likeokay tidepod
1 likeIts okay trisha paytas
1 likeCalm down triek
0 likesTromaggle
0 likesTwilight calls Dimond Tiara to her throne room and is like "I need you help reforming 2 of equestrias most deadly villains of all time"
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41 likesyeah but not just her alone
32 likesDT: "When do I start?"
40 likesDT is a more op filly than Flurry Heart
43 likesThat's interesting.
10 likesDiamond Tiara: OK PRINCESS!
26 likesDt: sure
6 likesWho are these most deadly bad guys
4 likesItโs true though
3 likesJust like Celestia taught :')
4 likesDT: What. The. Hay?!?!?!
11 likesyeah that's pretty wierd even for twilight
1 likeShe whould be like omg who is it princess
3 likesTwilight be like "I MUST RECRUIT A TEAM, OF TEENAGERS WITH ATTITUDE!!!!"
10 likes..... but then only one shows up.
lol
2 likesAh. She takes after Celestia
4 likes@ะะฐัะธะปะตะฝะฐ ะกะพะบะพะปะพะฒะฐ ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
1 likeMe wondering what she will respond with then reading the replies of this text: ๐ ๐ ๐
0 likesDT: Princess I have a question for you.
1 likeTwilight: yes DT?
DT: HOW AM I GONNA DO THAT!? IM GONNA BE DED!!
Diamond tiara:ok๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
0 likesdont you mean your help?
1 likeDT: ah, princess I have another important job to do...
0 likesTS: what?
DT runs away
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0 likesI just realized Spoiled Rich might have had her Cutie Mark changed cosmetically, it used to be spilled milk, literally. Her maiden name (I think?) was Milk. Spoiled Milk.
366 likesThat's honestly beyond unfortunate.
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Yep her name was spoiled milk
26 likesHer name was spoiled milk, but her cutie mark has stayed the same. During the episode "Where the apple lies" in season 6, you can see a young spoiled rich (then called spoiled milk bc she was filthy rich's fiance at the time) and she had the exact same cutie mark as she has now.
49 likes@forg
7 likesI've looked back at that episode and saw that but I have this weird memory of seeing her in some flashback scene in an episode I can't find with spilled milk for a cutie mark.
@forg
6 likesI think that's what's irking me. It's kind of driving me nuts.
@forg
10 likesActually now that I think about it, it may have been my brain mixing up memories or something because I just realized the spilled milk Cutie Mark was actually in those episodes where Starlight ruled that village like a communist leader.
Lol
4 likesSo Spoiled Milk. Does that have any significant meaning behind it?
4 likes@RayzerSun
3 likesI think her name is meant to show that she's one of the spoiled brats/high class of the pony world. Other than from that I don't think so. I think her talent has something to do with making jewelry, or using it in some way. She could be good at selling jewelry maybe. It could also be beauty, like a cosmetologist or a make up artist or in costume design. I don't think a pony would receive a cutie mark representing a talent for marrying rich, but I guess it could be another meaning of her cutie mark or that could be the actual meaning of it. I would hope not though.
@RayzerSun hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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My daughter, Jessica, age 7, says: "I like your alicorn videos."
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who doesnt? even though its sad, i laugh so hard when i see them shattering
2 likesโAnd pressures pacifi- diamond tiara.โ Yeah nice gravity falls reference there
159 likesSawtooth, you will be the light Equestria needs to reform the world.
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This is an underrated comment
2 likes@eunahjang Ikr
0 likesโI have something YOU donโt have, FRIENDS!โ Diamond tiara professional reformer and roaster
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Lol
12 likes@YOANA POO CHUAN EN SSC Tirek will return in G5?
6 likesWhy is King Vorak
1 likeWho is King Vorak?
1 likeIโm gonna use that burn for when my bro and I are fighting
3 likesWhy this true tho?๐
1 like@Ashley 8m asking the same thing
0 likesI read that too fast and it became โprofessional reformer and toasterโ๐น๐น
4 likes@Ashley tireks father I'm pretty sure.
0 likeslol ๐
0 likes@Shuki shell kind of be like that one Griffin what's her name Gilda or something? Whatever so Gilda didn't even have a cutie mark she's still helped with the cutie Mark crusaders same with babs seed
1 likeProfessional Roaster: A
3 likesDiamond Tiara : Im about to end this Man whole career.
Yessss
1 likeLol
0 likesTirek : Wdym! i- okay i guess those arnโt really for friends they were just there for mostly powerโฆ
0 likes@Randy Rios Cruz he did not he was not in the movie
0 likes@Hungary oh
0 likes@Ashley voraking deez nuts
0 likes@Jimena Garcia King vorak is tirek's father
0 likesLOL. Also YASSSSS SO TRUE
0 likes"The approval of someone who doesn't want what's best for you, ISN'T WORTH SEEKING."
11 likesOne of the most important lessons I've ever heard, and it came from a pony analysis video. Awesome!!! ๐คฉ
Iโd never knew about Tirekโs family and his goal to prove himself, but this could mean something new. If one centaur alone is powerful enough to cause a lot of damage all over equestria, then imagine an entire civilization of centaurs. And we would meet King Vorak as well, I think this would be a good finale or premiere for season 10, but, the series is over now...
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His goal is to absorb magic from Equestria, nothing else, regardless of what Discord said.
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0 likesChrisalias: friendship isnโt the disease itโs the cure
30 likesCozy glow: power will only leave you empty
Diamond Tierra: and if thatโs the path someone has chosen for you then make your own path itโs on them to accept you, if they do thatโs great but even if they donโt you can always count on your back
What I see here is the exact same situation weโve seen before.
15 likesWeโve seen this with chrisalys, seeing her family, her warriors turned soft. Thatโs what drove her away in the first place. Meaning this could backfire. Not only will the sight of his former comrades reformed revolt Terek it will also make chrysalis see she has become what drove her into seeking revenge in the first place. I do think the theory is a thought but I donโt see it working, hope this advice makes some sense, ๐โ๏ธ.
Honestly just throw diamond tiara in a room of villains and give her an hour and you have solved your villain problem
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Haha hehe lol ๐ if i throw her i would say YAHYOOOT
118 likesSmart.
91 likesLol great idea
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12 likes@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox why
19 likesDont throw a child
26 likesOr maybeeeeee she would get ultimately destroyed by them
33 likesSay yeet
10 likesHahahahahahahagahaga(hagahaga what kind of laugh is this?) Hahahehe hahaha hahaha haha ha ๐ ๐ ok I should stop now
9 likesDiamond tiara: wait what-
16 likesOr sheโs dead
12 likesI want to be in the room where it happens~
16 likesGIRL- UR LITERALLY A 7
9 likesYEAR OLD THAT DOES THOSE FAIRY HYBRID GACHA THUNGS SUGENEHSHSBEH-
CAN U GET A JOKE LMAO
@Nyx Cos excuse me what
5 likesLol
3 likes@your daily dose of anxiety I was talking to the girl who said โmEaN >:((โ
5 likesYEET!
3 likesAs long as they donโt kill her
5 likesYeah I think that wou... HahahahHahahahahahaha!!!!! Would work perfectly
1 likeThat would work as long as they dont stomp on her
0 likes@croissant I agree
1 like@AweAdolay yep
1 like@Harry Potter Mmmhmm
1 likeIkr like mane 6 who?
3 likesThrow
3 likesReally now she is good ๐๐
@Nyx Cos oh my bad carry on then
2 likes๐ ๐ ๐
3 likes๐งช๐ฝ๐
๐ ๐พ
๐ฏ ๐ฏ You are correct That might work.
Lol
1 likeLol
1 likeB a s i c l l y
0 likes@Ellianna Birdsall* throws child* HAAHAHHAHAHAHA
1 like@Decastite ๐๏ธ kicks into sun
1 likePrincess of reforming!
3 likes@Elda Avila lol
0 likesYeah Just yeet her and silver spoon
3 likesAgreed but dimand tiara a a Foal
0 likesUnless they take over the world
0 likesdaont forget Discord :)
0 likesLOL so true ๐
0 likesYEAH LOL
0 likesTrue and um what the tuff changeling
1 likeYeah just throw diamond tiara in there problems solved she's been through everything
0 likesHey you gave me a video idea lol
1 likediamond tiara is now friend with the crusaders in season 4 or 5 thats the same episode where the crusader got they're cutie marks
0 likesHuh
0 likes๐๐๐ โจ
0 likesI know right how those she do it
2 likesThis is so true lol
0 likesThey really yeeted her in there doe
0 likesWe should probably throw one of the princesses in there too so that they keep Diamond safe-
0 likes๐๐๐๐
1 likeXD
2 likesJust yeet her in and done
1 like๐๐๐๐๐
2 likes@croissant bah just remove their magiv
1 likeI feel you bro
2 likesDiamond Tiara is a true hero.
1 likeAnd now I am the 69th reply. Nice me.
1 likeOh, and I don't think that Diamond Tiara can reform Sombra at all. There is also no way she could have reformed Discord, Tempest Shadow, Starlight Glimmer (okay, that one's a maybe), or Stygian. And in no universe can she reform any of the other MLP villains.
And I disliked Diamond Tiara in first seasons.
1 like๐ i canโt explain how funny this is
1 likeAdd in pharynx and were good just separate them in different corners ๐
2 likesSmart
2 likesand put even a small fragment of the shards that blocks magic so she won't get destroyed.
1 likeyeah, diamond tiara is dead!
1 like@Eagan O'Connor is that honey or peanut butter. Only people who watched what about Discord will get that joke
1 like@S G he already reformed Chrysalis and cozy soooo
0 likes@archana prasad so is cozy glow
0 likesThatโs so funny ๐
0 likesMore like diamond tiara and starlight
0 likes@Gacha muffin omg right
0 likesStarlight really helped with the reforming of โthe pony of shadowsโ
Yeah but are you serious? I don't think they will believed at her or they might deceive Diamond Tiara
2 likesYe lol
0 likes@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox ...why?
0 likes(Walks into room) did you fix them yet?
0 likesThatโs smart lol
1 likePoor Diamond Tiara though just getting thrown in a room not even knowing what's going on-
0 likesI mean, yeah.
1 likeyeah haha
0 likesIf I did that I would be like yeet I'll be back in an hour lol
1 like@Hai Pham he made one already bout her
0 likes@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox how
0 likes@Dark Spirit Zeera how dare you disturb my peace
0 likesDonโt reply to me
Yeah
0 likesโโบโถโฝ ๐
0 likesI just like 2:31 paci-I mean diamond tiara
1 like?
0 likesYes!
0 likes@Elda Avila underrated
0 likesi feel wierd because i used to be like diamond tiara
1 likeโ JUST THROW DIAMOND TIARA IN A ROOM OF VILLAINS โ LOL
1 likeYeah
0 likesLOL
0 likesYou are funny
1 likePeriod
What about Pharyx helping Chrysalis
0 likesYOUR NAME IS SO FUNNY
0 likes@Harry Potter security cameras. forcefield. that stuff
2 likesLol XD yes
1 likeY
1 likeWE MUST YEET THE CHILD AT THE CENTAUR
2 likesSmurt.
1 likeLol
0 likesOrโฆ.. She dies or gets bad injuries
0 likesShe is NOT a villain she just got treated badly,so she put her madness on everyone else
1 likeLOL
0 likesHeehee
0 likesyour daily dose of anxiety you know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek besides Diamond Tiara? his brother Scorpan because remember in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and become friends with the ponies (all kinds including the princesses too)
0 likesOk
0 likesIf they donโt beat her up
0 likestrue
0 likes@Ellianna Birdsall true donโt throw the children.
0 likesDropkick them.
@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox uhh why-?
0 likesSmart
0 likesHahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahaha lolololololol
0 likesWhat how... that make no sense
0 likes๐
0 likeslol
0 likesSo true
0 likesLol
0 likesbruh
0 likesYes and this makes me less anxious
0 likesYEAH THATS SO TRUE
0 likes@Eagan O'Connor nice
0 likes@Joyce Cabigon YEET
0 likesomg! so true! ( that's basically what I thought should happen)
1 likeit's true it's a good idea
0 likesreally smart
And Pharynx whuppp
0 likes@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox huh
0 likeswhat.
@-โ_that one friend_โ-โข10 years ago idrk๐ฆ
0 likesmy comment is old chill
0 likesI am 103rd that idea
0 likesL9l
0 likesI donโt think they would kill her just use their magic on her
0 likes@Ang3l IT WAS AN OLD COMMENt CHILLLL VDBDBDBD
0 likesGood point!๐๐
0 likesHeR pAsT wItH hEr pReSeNt
0 likesLol wha- it true
0 likesReformed Diamond Tiara right
0 likesTwilight : howโฆHOW DOES A SIMPLY FILLY LIKE YOU SLOVE TWO OF THE MOST DANGEROUS VILLANS IN ALL EQUESTRIAN, REFORM THEM AND IS STILL NOT HURT!
1 likeDiamond tiara : wellโฆ.it was a hour you know?
Twilight : It was? Oh yeah BUT STILL
lol true
0 likesLol hahahahahahahaahhhhhhhhhaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaagggghhhhhhaaaaaaagroy I Kant brief den diesโ ๏ธ
0 likes@coolgirlwithsmile plays roblox why
0 likesThe fact that their villains they might as well kill or hurt her
0 likesSmart
0 likes@Ellianna Birdsall yes throw a child and say yeet when doing it
0 likesVery good idea ๐๐ฟ
0 likesLol, but her parents would never accept her doing that. Sad days.
0 likesNo way they would kill her right away because if all of them are in the same room yep they dead
0 likesMore like leave diamond tiara in prison of villains
0 likesLol
0 likesYeah smart idea
0 likesPut christalis on your list of allicorns
0 likesDiamond Tiara - pro counselor and villain reformer.
0 likesPerfect idea
0 likesAnd if chrysalis is in there also just throw every reformed changeling out there and they'll teach chrysalis a lesson
1 like@croissant Ok- maybe but at least give her a way to defend herself and she'll be fine, goodbye villains.
0 likes@Fathima Tabassum Same
0 likes@Grace Boraas Right, no one forget him
0 likesAlso, if any unreformed changelings are in there then don't forget Pharynx. This also goes along with Chrysalis being in the room.
0 likesโAll these years taking power from poniesโ -Lord Tirek
10 likesI have an idea for a video!
13 likesThe backstory of changelings, and I have a small theory that could help? Idk
Maybe they looked like/were normal ponies, but after Queen Chrysalis, or whatever pony she used to be, had a grudge against the rulers of ponyville/wherever they used to live, and started a war. Soon the Rulers decided they should be banished, and transformed them in the process. They started learning how to use a special type of magic that the new changelings would know, the power of transformation. The holes in the unreformed changelings represent the love they lost, and when they were reformed, those holes were filled.
This is a BIG stretch but maybe, just maybe it could work?
Itโs kinda sweet how his form of redemption is finding others that will accept him for him. In the comics, Tirekโs parents were aware of his gift with magic, but rather than to encourage him or even help him with it, his father only belittle and pushed his son aside, doing nothing to help his rebellious nature. Meanwhile Scorpan was treated like a favored child by both his parents.
2 likesSomething like that obviously would effect anyone well into adulthood, and I think having his only two allies (Chrysalis and Cozy) express their appreciation, just knowing his not ALONE, could be what starts his redemption.
So, basically, Tirek is the MLP version of Zuko. Going on a very self damaging journey in an attempt to gain the approval and love of a father figure that may or may not be able to give it to them.
4 likesIn my opinion:
1948 likesVillain || Characters who help reform them
________________________________________
Cozy Glow || Diamond Tiara, Starlight
Chrysalis || Pharynx
Tirek || Princess Luna, Sunset Shimmer
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Don't forget Tempest Shadow
132 likes@Megga Miauw what do you mean? did you not notice that at the end of the movie she has been reformed? or did you turn it off before that?
39 likes@leebo I think Megga Miauw meant that Tempest Shadow could be used to reform one of the three?
114 likes@Archer probably. they could have worded it better imo
27 likes@leebo Yeah they could've
14 likesGood idea ๐ก
6 likesTiffany Tang, that involves a portal that only opens every two years.
3 likesI don't think Starlight could reform Cozy Glow. Diamond Tiara and possibly a reformed Suri Polomare are the only ones who could possibly actually understand her. Starlight can't relate to Cozy Glow at all. Cozy's issue is her fundamental outlook on life and other people. You need people who've also seen others as tools, and Starlight always thought she was doing things to make other people's lives better.
33 likesChrysalis and Pharynx absolutely. Pharynx wouldn't even give her a friendship speech as more as a cold hard slap of reality. Because her issue is pride, denial and blame.
But there's only one pony who could possibly reform Tirek. And it's reformed Cozy Glow. Because Tirek actually has a sense of honor. He's the least evil of the three as a person. But his biggest obstacle is trust. Tempest or Luna could possibly relate to him, but they would never trust each other. But Tirek already trusts Cozy Glow.
I saw ur pfp and now im hungery
1 likeCozy glow: diamond tiara
8 likesChrysalis: pharynx tempest shadow starlight
Tirek: luna trixe sunset shimmer
Yeah sunset shimmer and Luna would be a great example for Tirek as well
5 likesTrue
1 likeHe is a sentaur
1 likePiano Playlist and Scorpan you know Tirek's brother because we learned in there story Scorpan became both reformed and friends with the Ponies
3 likesI would go for sunset
0 likesAre you talking about the portal to the equestria girls world, the equestria girls characters made it so they could open it at any time... i think
1 like@Nikita Rodrigues o doubt Starlight would help Chrysalis. She truly hates her.
1 like@Megga Miauw Tempest shadowโs real name is fizzle bop Berry twist I think
1 likesees sunset shimmer wait a minute
1 likePrincess Luna would've been perfect honeslty
0 likesOMG Yessss Luna could say how she wished for more respect amongst the ponies got herself banished and came back trying to be better and Sunset could share how she stole a crown from a distant world for power but instead of gaining popularity for being powerful she became lonely as she was turning into a vile being
2 likesGreat idea!
0 likes@Megga Miauw yeah everybody forgot about FizzleBop BerryTwist (Tempest Shadow) as a helper for redeeming villians
1 likeYes
0 likesGood idea!
0 likes@The4Tier Bridge no the portal was opened forever after rainbow rock
0 likesFizzlebop Berrytwist (aka; Tempest Shadow) would be great at Reforming villains especially Cozy Glow. She would in a small way also be good for reforming Chrysalis!
1 likeWith tires I would,have thought about stygian
1 like@Haxior I feel like Starlight wouldn't have any problem helping Chrysalis, the problem is probably Chrysalis refusing to listen to her lol
0 likes@rockincradilyyy y Yeah, Twilight connected the book (the one they used to communicate) to the mirror so yeah they can open it anytime basically
0 likes@Thew0ffan I agree especially because Sawtooth thinks King Vorak is like Spoiled Rich which isn't the case. True we only see King Vorak in the books that are non Cannon but that's the only thing we can go off of to understand who King Vorak is. In the book he's benevolent and doesn't think absorbing power from everyone in Equestria is good. In fact when one of the citizens brings back a Pony and starts absorbing its magic, Vorak essentially sent that citizen to prison, so jt's more like he's trying to prove to his father that he can be a strong King in the future, it's just that his father doesn't accept his methods.
0 likes@The4Tier Bridge its left open now...
0 likesyes!
0 likesDonโt forget DIAMOND TIARA
0 likesfor tirek
0 likes@Janel Paslowski It is,
0 likes@The Asprey Sisters Yep they forgot her
0 likesCan we just acknowledge the fact that diamond tiaraโs mom was named: โSpoiled Richโ
8 likesHonestly, when Tirek was first introduced, i thought he could be like a good prison guard, taking magic when they enter and giving it back as they leave, and also the strength. Instead of getting weak if he gives too much back though, the princesses or someone can give him enough magic to stay big, although not all of theres.
2 likesI love the Gravity Falls
20 likes"The ringing bell of the commands you" thing
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It is at the time 2:32
2 likesThe funny thing is that Diamond Tiara can solve literally almost everything in these vids
1 like"There's one more person who would understand his struggle perfectly"
2337 likesMe: Luna ofc, she also tried to prove her worth and went too far with powe-
"Diamond tiara"
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I legit thought that it was gonna be luna as well because:
402 likes1. Both luna and tirek felt betrayed/Beneath their siblings
2. Both had been sealed away through their sibling's actions
3.both had sought after power but were defeated by the elements of harmony ( I know that's like every villain except sambra and crysalis but you get the idea )
I thought it was going to be his brother
68 likesBut not with a parental figure... whatch out with that ...
43 likesMaybe Luna afterwards cause he would still have animosity against the Princessโ he still sees them as his enemies.
59 likesLuna was the one who sealed him away so...
27 likesI feel dumb cos I said Sunset Shimmer-
21 likes@Pacific Painter is he serious?! Diamond tiara again don't get me wrong I have no problem with that but what about sunset shimmer she could do it or tirek friends who's name I've forgotten
12 likes@Red Alert I dunno how sunset shimmer could relate to teirek enough for him to reform other than she was the same as twilight in the beginning thinking that friendship is useless
14 likesPacific Painter Well sunset want to power and want to rule Equestria but then but sheโs different now and tirek wants the same power to I mean think about it
4 likes@Red Alert yeah but that's all of the villians in the show, I'm talking about personal connections
12 likesI think sunset shimmer just think of it:
9 likesIn her song my past is not today her first line was:
โPower was all I desiredโ
Tirek wanted that power just like sunset shimmer
I think that sheโs a better example but diamond tiara is also an amazing example!
Little Mocha Gamer_ Girl thank you she gets me
3 likesI'M STILL LAUGHING XD
2 likes@Pacific Painter i also thought it was amber
2 likesI thought it was Amber
3 likesHonestly Luna did seal him in stone sooooooo I think it would be best first with diamond tiara and his frenemies and THEN with Luna so it would be less;
5 likesโyOu sEaLeD mEh iN sToNe aNd nOw yOu wAnT mE tOo lEaRn tHiS cRaB?!?!โ
thatโs what I said!!!
0 likesBrony - Diamond Tiara
0 likesMe:Eh?
Rhapsody HC Mashups actually, discord put them in stone, all Luna and Celestia did was destroy the cupcake.
0 likesYeah
0 likesRoy Delacroix
0 likesAs soon as I read this it was said in the video
@Tea hello ๐
0 likes@Xloudyd4ys yes i would probably agree with you but its in another dimension remember
0 likesin a different world the key to informing him is Lunar (the pony no the member if the krew) because in both cases they both had a bit of darkness in line with them except one decided to keep it hidden and use it for good well the other used it to take control 3 times only to be inprisoned each time
0 likesWith Lunar her parents brought her up to be dark and to use our powers for manipulation and Power however it's not what she truly wanted what however it's not what she truly wanted and it was only expressed when she was with her siblings but she didn't know how she could settle this debate but once realizing one of her sisters was what was keeping her this way keeping her from not destroying the world she realized she could do this all the time and when doing so she got a pair of wings and of course she's fully not out of the darkness yet because when she does something nice sometimes darkness follows like one time she was in the middle of thanking her siblings for helping her and was in the middle of tying somebody Up at the same time if this works for her it can really work for him all we need is her to explain her experience and see how they connect however since the character was taken from the krew and reinvented into a character's OC this really happen but here are some actual candidates that could possibly reform him Trixie, Starlight, Sunset, chrysalis and cozy, diamond tiara, his brother, the pony of Shadows ( not the one that was put back into imprisonment but the one that was taken out of it), Princess Luna, and Tempest shadow are the only ones in a real show that could be the key to his Reformation however in the O. C world Lunar is a good person for the job.
@Red Alert or stitchian
0 likesLuna was Envious of her sisterโs admiration, not trying to prove herself to a parent.
0 likesWhy not have her help Diamond Tiara in reforming Tirek, have her help Ferynx redeem Chrysalis, and have her team up with another character like idk flurry heart to redeem cozy glow.
0 likesto be fair, there's a distinct difference between why Luna and Tirek turned evil. Luna didn't turn into Nightmare moon because she had a parent to live up to, but because she was overshadowed by her sister.
0 likesWell, Tirek knows Luna at least to an extent he has also posed a big threat to the sisters before, that's why they gave up their magic to twilight. Luna could play a role if Diamond Tiara felt insecure about reforming Tirek but luna wouldn't be the key
1 like2:32 I canโt be the only one who realized why he almost said โPacificaโ right?
34 likesAlso Gravity Falls is- yes
For those who are confused, Tirek is a bucentaur, half bull/cow half human/humanoid creature.
1 like๐
i just remembered the name of this channel, i remember watching your videos 6 years ago. this channel was my childhood, and it honestly makes me happy that youโre still making them. i loved these growing up and itโs one of the reasons i like making theories for shows. if i hadnโt watched these vids growing up i would definitely be a different person now
1 likeOkay, I have a set design for my favorite bean of my newest generation becoming a pony, but I have yet to figure out his name. His name is Kostado, nicknamed Songbird because of the fact that he was the first to talk in his litter, his very talkative personality as a young shifter, the fact he absolutely loves music, and the fact he can mimic any sound or voice. I did decide to give him a MLP design, so I could make him into a customized MLP figure. I have his design sketched out and colored, but I have yet to give him a proper name. To explain his origin in the smallest way possible, he was chosen to be a prince at birth, born mostly as a shapeshifter but slightly werewolf. He is also mostly angel, with a hint of demon. When he can control himself, he is the kindest, and most mature when looking after family. He plays villain for a while, to gain the trust of his grandfather, though he ends up being a victim most of his life, from pup to adult. He also goes insane when consuming one of the many things he is allergic to, becoming a true, hyper-evolved, villain until given a bit of narcan. He is also highly intelligent, yet he struggles to find how to be a true pup or have fun, and even understanding himself. He absolutely hates blood and the thought of hurting someone. Please, suggest names for him that fit the theme. His cutiemark is a treble clef followed by a smaller quarter note and eighth note.
5 likesDiamond Tiara: Princess of...
3601 likesBeing relatable.
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She chould be the princess of .................. Reforming
244 likesYes
42 likesJust yes
36 likesIt's a beautiful idea to make Diamond Tiara the princess of Reforming
65 likes@VK Heeka that was exactly the same comment I wrote lol
15 likesyes
7 likesthat's amazing and hilarious XDD
10 likesYeah๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
9 likesLol
6 likesApple S yas
5 likesLmao
3 likeslol
4 likesYes
3 likesOr the princess of therapy
6 likesThat is perfect ๐
3 likesPrincess of "stop being mean"
4 likes:/:l
4 likesLyn and Carli princess of change sounds better than reforming
5 likesAfter that you should dab
2 likesWhat?
1 likeAnd introducing the new princess of equestria... dimond tiara! The princess of being relatable!
2 likesApple S
3 likesDiamond Tiara, Princess of Relatability
Relatable
2 likesPlus in his newest theory if she masters all elements of ponyโs welp,
2 likesGet the paperwork done and BAM
princess relatable; BORN :p
She must be princess of villain understanding
2 likesLol
2 likesXD
2 likeswell you gys replied 2 times sooooooo
1 likeI will!see what I did there!
1 likeAccording to saw tooth yes you are correct
1 likeMason jensrud king of evilness๐๐๐
0 likesMaybe diamond tiara could be the princess of
1 likeSASS๐๐๐
How about even MORE merch?
0 likesAnd last but not least, Flurry Heart princess of.......merchandise.
0 likesNo princess of reforming
0 likesWhat?
0 likesshhe should be a cutiemark crusader only a different kind of helping creatures reforming
0 likesNow, I know what you're thinking, and no, this is NOT a perfect place to put a Sr Pelo refer- AH DANGIT WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER!
1 like@VK Heeka True
0 likes@VK Heeka agreed
0 likesBest Idea in hear Princess offf
0 likesMaking Sawtooth Think Sheโs the key of reforming everything
I CANT THIS IS AO FUNNY
0 likes๐๐ธ
0 likesPrinces of reforming
0 likesShe should be my next therapist
0 likesEnd of all the vids:There future could still be bright
0 likesYes please.
0 likesHahaha
0 likesTrue tho
0 likesNo princess of child abuse ๐
1 likeHer castle would have a "refroming room" where you put the villans to be reformed
1 likeShe is the alicorn of therapy
1 likeohh i get den i like
0 likesprincess of bossieness then kindness
0 likes@Albedo HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
0 likesWow! THAT IS RELATABLE!!!
0 likesSo true
0 likesthe princess of therapy
0 likesLmao
0 likesUmmโฆโฆ.. I donโt think soo
0 likesyes
0 likesYeah pretty much
0 likesWait the episode of Diamond Tiara turning into Starlightโs pupil
0 likesYep
1 likeDiamond Tiara : Princess of Empathy
0 likesHer talent is leadership
0 likesshe's been in lots of tight spots so yeah
0 likesI was kind of surprised. Doesn't he have a brother? you didn't mention him. I mean as someone to help with the reforming. Scorpan has the same dad (presumably) and would relate to his struggles.
2 likesThanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^
0 likesThough the Diamond Tiara angle has potential, I think that Sunset Shimmer might be a better match for Tirek.
In his youth, Tirek has a rebellious nature and a thirst for power, something that worries his father, King Vorak. One day, Tirek's mentor in magic, Sendak, kidnaps a unicorn to drain his magic. However, Tirek betrays Sendak and tries to take the power for himself. Tirek's attempt fails, so he sneaks back home. King Vorak finds Sendak and the captive unicorn, sentences Sendak to the mines, and returns the unicorn to Equestria with an apology. Tirek denies any involvement, but Vorak doesn't believe him and basically grounds him. Tirek vows to overthrow his father and rule Equestria, not knowing what the future has in store for him.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it? A spiteful, ambitious youth rebelling against a concerned parent figure in their quest for power. Someone willing to take by force what they didn't deserve. Someone who eventually fell to the power of harmony and the magic of friendship.
I love this idea because it would hint to a lovely next gen idea of Diamond Tiara, Luster Dawn and some other fillies tying up those loose ends
0 likesImagine just casually putting a child in front of a Prince who has tried to take over their world three times... ๐
1 likeChrysalis -> Pharynx
2 likesCozy Glow -> Starlight
Tirek -> Diamond Tiara
If they were separated yet the ponies/changling on the right tried to help them.
I love these videos of yours! Could you do one on how to redeem the sirens? Since their resolve in friendship camp was kinda... I don't know
0 likesThe difficulty with Tirek is that he had someone like that, someone really close who couldn't get to him; his own brother. I don't think Diamond Tiara could pass that barrier if his brother couldn't
0 likesHonestly, I don't think simple encouragement would be enough here. While having the others in the trio help is useful, I don't think Tirek is likely to change without having to directly confront his family. Perhaps what would happen is more of a Tirek escapes and tries to steal a tooon of magic, perhaps from the crystal empire. This of course, is thwarted by his old friends. Tirek returns defeated to the place where he began, which happens to coincide with the ponies bringing friendship there.
0 likesTogether, Crysalis and Cozy almost accomplish a task that Tirec was never able to complete, and with much less magic than Tirek ever had. At this point, Tirek stands up for his former allies, making them allies again. THEN Diamond Tiara can do her thing.
I would love to learn more about centaurs' anatomy.
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That is 69 likes-
12 likesU wanna learn how to draw erotica of centaurs mate?
@Annie is Inactive i-
6 likesI donโt
0 likes@Annie is Inactive
13 likesNooo!!!
How their internal organ are distributed, are newborns capable of walking hours after birth and how...Tirek's father had children with a Gargoyle woman. Yeah...
@Shinigami Phantom
0 likesIt was a joke- sorry ;w;
Sawtooth: You can count on us to have YOUR BACKS! Seriously, how does that work?
4 likes@Annie is Inactive 140 now.
0 likesHey at least he has double oragns so he is pretty healthy
3 likes@The Weirdo Channel
0 likesNow we need 420 ;)
@Annie is Inactive Thank you
0 likes@Annie is Inactive Lol
0 likes@Annie is Inactive I have seen some.
0 likesHow does he sleep he has two backs
0 likes@Con Gillies horses sleep standing up
0 likesMaybe you shouldnโt
0 likesDouble digestive system time
0 likes@The Weirdo Channel When I liked it was 491 but I liked so now 492
0 likesI feel like Flurry Heart could have some way to help Tirek reform. After all, she was born an alicorn princess, representing the love to a caregiver. Tirek is someone who wants to please his "parental figure" but Flurry Heart can show him that King Vorak doesn't have Tirek's best interests in mind. Flurry Heart can show him the "family" that is there for him. She can show him who is really there for him. Of course, this with the help of Diamond Tiara. I just felt like Flurry Heart could possibly have some way in helping.
0 likesThis man is straight up making theories that can possibly be the episode of a new season of mlp
1 likeActually, I would be willing to believe that his brother could help and that he is confused as to what his father wants. His father may simply just wanted his sons to retrieve the magic of friendship and Scorpan got it, while Tirek did not. Kind of like how Celestia told Twilight that she needed to make friends. But Twilight was blinded by her original goal.
0 likesI really wanted to see you solving King Sombra's problems and reforming him
1 likeNightmare Moon: Reformed
383 likesDiscord: Reformed
Starlight Glimmer: Reformed
Tempest Shadow: Reformed
Stygian: Reformed
Chrysalis: Plan for Reformation
Cozy Glow: Plan for Reformation
Tirek: Plan for Reformation
Let's not forget Sunset as well.
A Long List of Reformed or Planned Reformed Villains/Anti-Hero/Antagonists later...
King Sombra: dead
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NOOOOOOO, THE KING OF STAIRS AND CRYSTALS IS DEAD T_T
54 likesDont forget about Sunset Shimmed.
24 likesMandy Wenzl technically sheโs from a different series as she doesnโt appear in the show itself, just the side movies but yeah. She is reformed.
16 likesSombra died TWICE!
38 likesThe storm king is also dead
27 likesAnd the lesser villains, Diamond Tiara, Gilda, Trixie, Flim and Flam (kind of?), etc.
10 likesWhere is storm king
6 likesYou forgot Sunset shimmer!!!!
3 likesSUNSET SHIMMER MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN!!!! and Sci-Twi....? Idk?
4 likes@Lily that's the Human World's own issue. And yes I had to include "long list of villains reformed later " Because if I mentioned every single one of them it would be too boring
5 likes@Shaheda Lima was going to add Storm King who says he understands how Sombra feels but then it would've made the text too long.
2 likesWell they did reformed him in the COMICS so it still sorta applies
1 likeTonic the hedgehog She does appear in the series. Besides, Equestria Girls is pretty much canon at this point.
0 likes@Shadic Midnight Blitzer True like Juniper Montage, Wallflower. But Sunset was a more important part. U should have put her on. I understand if u don't want too.
1 like@Lily well look at it again I think I modified the text
0 likes@Shadic Midnight Blitzer thank u but u really didn't need too.
0 likesPeople who ship sombra with like, anyone: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
3 likes@Peach Pink lol
0 likesSombra isn't dead, it's the 4th time (that we know of) that he has been banished
1 like@Dark Warrior whether he's dead or not he's one of the villains that was instantly given no mercy compared to Chrysalis where Starlight tried to help her change as well only for her to swat her hoof away
8 likes@Shadic Midnight Blitzer yeah that's true
0 likesActually, Tempest Shadow isnโt her real name.
0 likes@COOLSKELETON95 but it is much easier
0 likesDark Warrior ok if ya say so.
0 likesBut but but, What about Ask Twibra?!?
0 likesright he ded
0 likesKings just get screwed and killed off in this show LOL
0 likesYou can't really kill Sombra, his spirit still resides in The North, it'll just be an endless cycle of him gaining enough power to return and then getting beaten back by harmony every thousand years or so, eventually he'll win, you can't have an unbeatable, unrelenting villain coming back every millennium indefinitely without him seizing power.
2 likes@Soil You say this according to which sources?
0 likes@Stark Solutions Well, the show: he is depicted to be banished to the North once, shattered by the elements of harmony the second time, and yet he was able to return in full force, yes with the help of Discord, but he would've eventually been able to regain his power over the course of a long period of time like the first time.
3 likesStorm King ded
1 like@Soil Dude, he basically returned twice, but uh, he was destroyed by the Crystal Heart, and then by the Magic of Friendship, not the Elements 'cause he destroyed them. The first he came back, he wasn't at full force, he was weakened. And in the second and final, he was in full body.
2 likesAnd no, he was killed by the most powerful magic of all, no banning spell or Crystal magic.
@Stark Solutions Well, if he can still come back after being shattered, then I think it's fair to say his spirit still resides in the north, and as long as there's a spirit, his return is indefinite.
1 like@Soil Pure speculation. There is no proof that there is a spirit of his residing in the north. I was going to say this is headcannon, but it sounds more like fanfic. That's because he "came" back under Discord's ressurrection ritual, not on his own. And also, you can't say this is fair because, once dead, his spirit went into a place Discord described as: "black pit", or "vanished into the Ether", which is something Rariry mentioned, which means: killed. Just makes no sense your point, since his last defeat was in Canterlot, his soul is along with his body and The CE is protected by the Crystal Heart.
0 likesโ@Stark Solutions Whatever, It's been made clear that neither of us are going to change their position on the matter, and I don't feel much like continuing this conversation, so fare thee well.
2 likes@Soil Sure. Hasta la vista, fuego. Go well.
1 like@Stark Solutions
0 likesHey, hey, just between youand me, I bet firebarrier wasjust salty and wanted to endthe conversation cuz they knewyou were right-๐๐ ๐โจโจ
The Dazzlings and Gloriosa.
0 likesSunset is already reformed and now nice to Celestia, Luna, Twilight Sparkle and Equestria Girls. Watch the memory stone and this will prove it.
0 likesHis dead he died twice so the sad
0 likes@Shadic Midnight Blitzer I think storm King actually died though๐ญ he's turned into stone and fell from the balcony? (I forgot lol) and broke๐ญ
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0 likesSombra was banished to the Ether not deadSombra finally bites the shadow when he finally died and not banished
@Hu Wutao he pretty much died in the season 9 premiere tho
0 likesBut seriously, Chrysalis is freaking beautiful - the reformed version I mean, but her original look is also really nice
0 likesI usually don't like watching pony breakdown videos but yours are informed and get right to the point. Well done
0 likesI really wish this would have happened in a comic (or in the ending of the end at least) either way, you make good points sawtooth.
0 likesIf there's one pony who could truly help reform and understand Tirek, it's definitely Princess Luna. ๐ค๐
0 likesTwilight And Starlight: I'm the only on-
2264 likesDiamond Tiara: lm the only one who can reform any villain in this movie
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@Lucy Kremer stop screaming please. I don't like ppl screaming the comments section.
19 likes@creqmii โ how does a comment scream-
22 likes@Tablet 3 see how they said again with all space that's the thing.
8 likesYeah lol
4 likes@Tablet 3 Behold the Power of my CAPS LOCK.
15 likeshonestly any one of the changelings could transform into any creature to reform any villian in Equestria or beyond that so-
10 likesLucy Kremer I feel sorry for him.
2 likesWasn't Fluttershy the first to reform a villain?
7 likesFluttershy Reformed discord that is why I like fluttershy the most
5 likesXD
1 like@Tablet 3 Basically
1 likeIma ruin that perfect 555 likes!!
1 likePrincess celestia: Am I a joke to you? (Looks at Nightmare Moon)
2 likesmeanwhile Iโm just lookinh at your sayaka pfp...
0 likesโจ
0 likes@Bethany McKinney HI, IM SAYAKA MAIZONO IM LOOKING FORWARD TO KNOW YOU
1 like@creqmii โ 0.0
0 likesSeries
0 likesItโs not a movie
0 likesHeres 1k likes!
0 likes@kxziiko-! HAH I HAVE THE POWER NOW
0 likes@Bethany McKinney Lol-
0 likesLol true
0 likesTell that to pharynx ๐
0 likesLol
0 likesHahahahaaaa
0 likes@Tablet 3 LOL
0 likesThis mov- no this channel
0 likesI am cringing, crying at this comments
0 likesHonestly, I think Trixie might be able to reform Tirek as well. She sought power to make others respect her, but found that she could be adored (or accepted) without the need for power.
0 likesI wish that we could reform all of these villains but the show ended so it's not possible
1 likeyou seem so serious all the time it's good to hear you laugh
1 likeEven though people are memeing about how Diamond Tiara is like the princess of reforming villains, I feel like she really deserves to become the Princess of Forgiveness
0 likesDiamond Tiara: Professional Villain Reformer and Advice Giver.
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Indeed!
22 likesWatch her take over as councillor after Trixie
29 likesHaha
6 likesVery much! โขvโข
6 likesMaybe
4 likesNaaah, Sawtooth Waves is a professional villain reformer. ๐
7 likesCelestia: W I N G
4 likesAce ikr?
1 likey e s
0 likes๐๐๐๐๐๐
0 likesYeah true
0 likesDiamond tiara OP confirmed
3 likes#w23ry๐โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ถ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐
0 likesDiamond Tiaraโs true cutie mark revealed ๐ป
1 likeShe's not the answer you know it's starlight because she was stealing cutie marks to have power over the other ponies if in case they all went rogue
0 likes@Melissa Sawicki The one you're referring to is Starlight Glimmer.
0 likesYea that's what I said
0 likes@Melissa Sawicki I'm referring to Diamond Tiara.
0 likesBut diamond tiara is not the answer
0 likes@Melissa Sawicki diamond tiara can be an answer along with starlight
0 likesShe's a bully filly and bullies can't ever change I know I've been bullied my whole school life only starlight can reform tirek both of them can relate to each other
0 likes@Melissa Sawicki It's okay to think like that.
0 likesOk I'm sorry
0 likesLol I agree so freaking much
0 likesI wouldโve loved for them to be reformed Iโm very curious what chrysalis would look like reformed
0 likesIn all honesty I don't think tirek could be reformed, he'll just steal the magic from Diamond Tiara and then another rampage, he's too much of a risk and might be best to leave in stone. Some people can't be reformed and that's just real life, that's the lesson we learned from the last episode while I can see cg and qc being reformed I think trying to reform tirek is a lost cause, it's like trying to reform Ted bundy by throwing him back in the world
1 likeJust my opinion
I have one question when someone gets turned into stone do they really become stone? Or do they have a stone coating around them that keeps them in place?
0 likesI read the Feindship is Magic special comic series, and the Tirek one did put a decent amount of emphasis on his relationship with his father. I lit it a while ago, but I remember I really liked it.
0 likesDiamond Tiara: The princess of reforming old villains.
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Lol
5 likeslol ๐
4 likesAnd young
3 likesVillains apparently because cozy glow does not seem that old
Lol
1 likeTrue
0 likesHer talent is leadership
1 likeโThe princess of reformโ
1 likeLol ๐
0 likesDiamond Tiara is soo cute! And now her attitude is so great too!
1 likeHonestly, Tirek was the only one of the 4 villains summoned at the start of Season 9 that I never imagined a redemption. Regardless, he could very well have been enough to be the final boss absorbing the magic of the other villains. What especially disappointed me with him in Season 9 (apart from being the victim of the final punishment which is admittedly justified, but which gives the impression that Discord and StarLight have preferential treatment) is that his brother did not appear.
0 likesSawtooth: Tirek ( or however itโs spelled )
7 likesSubtitles: DiD yOu SaY t-ReX?!
Tirek still owes Sawtooth an explanation of his 2 rib cages
1 likeBasically diamond tiara is the solution to everything.
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Lol
4 likesLOL
2 likesOk
Rey
Nun Loldoll84
Lol
2 likesYes
2 likesLol but true
3 likesHope she can reform some corrupted governments or smth.
9 likesSomehow yes
0 likesTRUE
0 likesHALLELUJAH!
2 likesBelinda's amzing adventure's
0 likesAnd Belinda's cookie fans
Unicorn town
0 likesI. Love your show
0 likesโขPeachyโขPinkโขStudios โข so true
0 likesWho thought a character that has been so insignificant for the last two or three seasons would be so important
0 likesDimond Tiara isnt the key to everything
0 likesYeah it seems so
0 likesTHAT IS SO TRUE ๐
0 likesYas yas yassssss
0 likesE
0 likesHaving a seizure?
2 likesGrab your nearest diamond tiara!
@RUBY, Lucy and Lefty ks101 s King Kevin d stop saying lol ๐ anyway that's a good idea who are you? oh that's a good idea gacha life
0 likes@Hรญmarรญ Kรบn AND STOP SAYING LOL
0 likesLol yes
0 likeshmmmmm i think is best to dimant teyara to make them good and she was want to make this good ๐ and she is want to slow the friend ship sow Dimant teyara is want to do something good beacase all the smomone is do smothing good so she wants to good
0 likesDiamond tiara cool
0 likesYour theories are extremely interesting! But I do have a different opinion: Diamond Tiara may be the key to reform Lord Tirek, but so is Princess Luna. It may sounds weird, but both were hungry for power (for different reasons) and maybe Luna can help Tirek with his "toxic" relation with his father (even Luna had a "toxic" relation with her sister, if we think about it).
0 likesLuna (a princess) can show Tirek (a prince, it has to be said) that friendship and love are way more valuable than trivial negative power as the mane 6 showed her thanks to the elements of harmony at the beginning of the show.
This is just my theory tho, again, I really really like yours too! (sorry for bad english) :)
4:46
0 likesI can see the two lungs working..
Upper lungs work for talking and have a heart to pump blood to the brain and most of the upper body,
Where as the lower lungs are used for more active motions like running, and the lower heart pumps blood to most of the lower body and a bit of the upper body.
The esophagus would most likely have more tubes that lead to the lower stomach (think about it like animals with three stomachs)
The small intestine would most likely be similar to a human (minus the large intestine on the upper body) and then leads from the upper stomach down and connecting with another small intestine that comes from the lower stomach leading into the large intestine and out of the anus.
TL;DR: two sets of upper organs (except for the large intestine)
Personally I believe Luna might be able to help him.She too turned to the dark side because of a lack of approval by others.In her case it were her subjects instead of a parent but still.she turned into nightmare moon because of jealousy towards her sister (that's where both could connect because they both are driven by feelings and desires they have because of a family member) and I think luna also turned evil because of a lack of approval from celestia as well.
0 likesI imagine chrysalis, tirek and cozy as a family
1 likeDiamond tiara: Future princess of...
1464 likesReforming
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I would love that.
50 likesTry to make her reform Frieza or even better...
31 likesKid Buu
EARTH PONY TO ALICORN
57 likesAieris Frost: just like Princess Big Mac
31 likesI think Princess of Forgiveness sounds a bit better though.
39 likesLol.
9 likesLol Exactly
9 likes@TerribleTetrisPlayer Both sound great
12 likesI was about to comment that, ikr
7 likesLol but true diamond tiara one of the princesses but would it kinda be strange because sheโs little and near villains maybe some of them would still be bad
6 likesWonder how she's gonna look like a princess ๐
6 likesProbably true
5 likesYep
4 likesYes that would be nice
4 likesMaybe XDD
3 likesDIAMOND TIARA IS A PRINCESS NOW
6 likesI love her
4 likesLol
4 likesMaryam Alam yup
3 likesmaybe...... courage
2 likesTututuutututuuuut.. Princess Diamond Tiara!!!
1 likeNearly 1k likes
1 like@Aieris Frost I wanna see a pony get A horn so yesh
1 likeWOAH thanks to everyone for liking it means i lot to me also princess of forgivness does sound better.....
3 likesI shall edit my comment ..
Unless you dont want me to?
I broke your perfect like score 950 by liking. Congrats two other ppl thought to as well
2 likesYes
1 likeMore like princess of unfriendship
1 likeThank you so much to everybody for liking
1 like@ARIA TRACY thank you
1 likeI love your idea
1 likeHonestly....THAT WOULD BE SIOOOOOOO GODODODOODOD
1 like@Shadow Spector its Bright Mac lol xD
1 likehahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaha
1 likeKEEP THE LIKES COMING
1 likewow already at 1.1 k
Thanks you guys
Maryam Alam dang you have 1.3k likes already
1 likeOoooo.Nice idea and good thinking
1 like@Trixx irk well its 1.4 k now
1 likeI trying to beat my bro with 3.3 k likes im not begging just saying
0 likesLOL BAT TRUE YAAAAAAAAAL
0 likesWhat the- I wrote a fricken comment with the exact same words except I called her relatable!!
1 likeThat's creepy...
I love you my big sis
0 likes๐
0 likes@Apple S lol what are the chances
0 likes@Mutaal's Films aww thanks
1 likeXD
0 likesReforming Tirek is possible, it's just gonna be quite hard, because you know he loathed his brother Scorpan for associating with ponies, or "betrayal" as he called it. Diamond Tiara may have gone through the same parent pressure as Tirek, but the thought of the ponies being the one which caused his brother to rebel would probably still send Tirek back to his old ways.
0 likesI'd just like to point out that Tirek being the smart one in the legion of doom fits perfectly with his "manipulation" of Discord in season 4.
0 likeswould Tempest Shadow also be a good idea? since she stole magic from princesses just like Tirek, just to prove herself to the storm king to get her broken horn back. twilight showed her that she is still worthy and powerful even without all the magic and her lost horn.
0 likesI have a question and i would really appreciate it if you answer me.
1 likeKing sombra was full of tricks and plans and was always one step ahead others isn't there any chance that maybe he is still alive and with the help of actual grogar somehow survived from twilight and now is planning to revange?
Nopony:
290 likesSawtooth: Diamond Tiara is the key to all this
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She deserves to be the princess of reforming villains
3 likes@โข Gaygle bagel Gacha โข ya i agree
2 likesI like the theory that diamond tiara can help both Cozy glow and Tirek But I think otherwise due to the fact Tirek is a strong centaur he doesnโt take crap from nobody especially discord and he can literally rip open the fabric of reality I donโt think he would listen to anybody. It would go to the point where Tirek just wouldnโt listen to anyone especially diamond tiara In fact I think Sunset Shimmer and Starlight Glimmer would be able to talk some sense into Tirek think about it since Sunset and Starlight wanted power and she did the manipulative way and they were power hungry and they would be able to relate to Tirek because the two of them of them wanted to be praised for their abilityโs by the people they looked up to Sunset with Celestia Starlight with Sunburst and Tirek with Lord Vordak and they would be able to get him to the point where he would listen after beating him in a battle and to end this off they would tell him to try fixing his mistakes and it would be hard but he would get through it and to tell his dad all the things heโs done and Sunset and Starlight would say that he would get the approval he wanted but thatโs my opinion
0 likesDiamond has not just BEEN on both sides of the coin,
0 likesShe's just straight up EATEN the coin!
Power for power
Power to impress someone who doesn't truly care
Rejecting reform out of fear
Knowing she feels empty and realizing friendship can fill that void
Like I said, she ate the coin ;-;
Pacif- DIAMOND TIARA-
6 likesThatโs my favorite part of this video.
sombra can be reformed using cadence and shing armor. sombra's motivations is to keep the crystal empire independent after cadence they depend on spike, twilight , shining armor, twilight and in crystalling sunburst and starlight. during his time the crystal empire was slaved because crystal ponies won't agree to that. So cadence and shining armor should handover and rule alongside sombra after reforming him.
0 likesWhy not Luna ? A filly doesnโt exactly seem like the type to help a big centaur
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I HAVE SEEN SO MANY COMMENTS LIKE THIS BUT DIAMOND TIARA IS AN ADULT IN THE LAST EPISODE OF SEASON 9
52 likesIt makes sense because Luna was trying to work up to being like her sister
17 likesDon't underestimate her
10 likesAssuming theyโre still in stone as the crusaders and diamond tiara grow up, it wonโt be a filly but a grown pony helping it.
12 likesOr maybe Sunset Shimmer..
2 likesWell if it was Luna, they would have to run into each other by chance, and one of them just invites the other to hang out with them.
6 likesActually looking back, that doesnt make sense. Plus, Luna was driven by jealousy and Tirek was driven by wanting to impress Vorak, and maybe his Scorpan wanted the same as well.
Because Titel would take the Power and Gates the princesses
0 likesIt would be a bad idea if luna reformed tirek, like what if he tricks her to set him free so he can take her magic and woopdie do all this "take over the world" again
2 likesThat's not only racist but also agist.
0 likessize and age doesn't really matter when it comes to compatibility
0 likesAll these villain reform videos are really helping me thank you sawtooth do you really help me to try and fix myself
0 likesTirek before being reformed: Magic, magic, magic! Power, power, power! Lust for power! I want to please dear old dad! Power, power, power! I need a HUUUUUUUUGGG!
2 likesTirek after being reformed:
Back home standing in the town square
Have you heard of our Lord and Savior Diamond Tiara and the word of friendship?
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Hahahaha๐
0 likesI love your idea that Tirek can possibly be reformed. in my opinion however, I don't find it really easy because
0 likeswhen Discord mentioned King Vorak, Tirek got super angry while trying to blast Discord. this also shows us that King Vorak is one of the many reasons why Tirek became a villain in the first place. again, I like your idea of reforming him I just don't find it easy in universe.
Tirek: I want to please my dear old dad.
0 likesAlso Tirek: HONOR!
Next My Little Pony movie: Diamond Tiara becomes an Alicorn
1209 likesEveryone: what- but what is she the princess of?
Celestia: comes outta *nowhere she is the princess of.. REFORMING
xD
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Yeshh
13 likesi seriously disagree daimond is not so much of an expert well if that was how you become a princess then why starlight not a princess that's not how it works
12 likesSaima Siddiqui I was kidding
14 likesLol true she comes out of nowhere
4 likesPRINCESS OF BEING RELEATABLE
17 likesSaima Siddiqui flurry heart was born a Alicorn princess
4 likesPrincess of sass
2 likesYes
0 likesReconciliation
0 likes@Just Floofie Your Pfp gives me life.
0 likesactually, she is the princess of bein Relatable
0 likesCelestiaโs all buff like
1 likeYEAH, REFORMATION
เคเคเคฟเคค jyif
0 likes@Saima Siddiqui That was a joke bruh
1 likeNo, sheโs the princess of being relatable :p
0 likesLOL
0 likes@Saima Siddiqui r/woosh
1 likeBut the new movie is the generation 5
0 likes@Saima Siddiqui bro it was a joke
0 likesLol
0 likes@Saima Siddiqui its a joke kid
0 likesI kinda thought starlight would be a good choice cause if we think of her past she is pretty similar to teirek I mean seeing as her only friend left and seeing as she tried to show her power and leadership to others it seems a bit similar to tierek but if diamond tiara helped her too it could be pretty interesting to see
0 likes2:31
37 likes"and pressures Pacifica- , eh, Diamond Tiara"
oh, so your a Gravity Falls fan to?
I think that luna, starlight and maybe if they can get sunset would be useful to reforming these guys
0 likesEspecially sunset since she has experienced the magic of forgiveness and reformation more then nearly any other character in mlp
I wish mlp was still on it would be fun seeing them watching this and doing more
0 likesWasnโt there some kind of mention that Tirek was close with his grandma? I remember that Cozy Glow said that Tirek talked or something to his grandma or something in his sleep. I think it was in the episode when they got the bell
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Yep i remember that he calls her gram gram
68 likesI havenโt watched too much of the movie but it makes sense
21 likesYeah it makes so much sense.
17 likes@โโEclipse โก๐ its not in a movie its in the episode "frinemies
29 likes@Alex Smith Frenemies*
18 likesLol
8 likes@Sagrika Bali ok thanks
9 likesThis is how u know I havenโt watched it to much.
11 likesWell i cant watch because australian netflix...
5 likesYeah. I wonder what kind of person his grandma was and if she somehow influenced his behavior
19 likesYeah don't bring gram gram into this
7 likesI quote Cosy glow said at least I donโt talk to my grandma in my sleep
1 like@Garvityใ there's a website called needforponies.fr where you can watch season 9. I hope this works
1 likeWait is it in english
0 likes@Garvityใ yup when you watch an epsiode and there should be a way to change the website to english
2 likesโDONโT YOU DARE BRING GRAM GRAM INTO THIS!โ
6 likes@Honeystream What do you mean?
0 likesAlvin Lan โDONT YOU DARE BRING GRAM GRAM INTI THISโ is a line Tierek said in the show in season 9
1 likeOh yeahhhhhhh
0 likesYes you are right about it
0 likeswhat you should do is sepatrate queen Chrysalis from cozy glow and tirek then put thoraxโs brother with chrysalis and dimond tiara with the other two and if one dose not understand get good chrysalis in the room = recipe for villain bad to reformed good with :
1 likechrysalis
tirek
cozy glow
in less than just 1 hour
in addition to tiara, i think the yaks and the dragons can help give tirak a sense of family honor and pride
0 likesI think tirek needs someone who knows and could tell him what could happen if he got what he wanted and maybe someone who has been through the same as him.
0 likesSo i think diamond tiara would be a good choice along with starlight and his freinimes
I think luna would be a good match for tirek, mainly cause i'm willing to bet, king vorak loved both tirek and scorpio a lot, but tirek probably didn't feel like it due to his his brother finding friendship and him not yet, scorpio still being accepted by their father. so i'm willing to bet that its a sibling thing more than a parent thing. If it is a parent thing, then how about gladis. as a griffen he was raised a certain way, proud, obcessed with power/wealth, and not well loved by his family/own kind. I feel tyrec could perhaps relate to that, and be able to relate also on them both not being pony's given tirek doesn't care for them much.
0 likesAnother thing about the reformations:
272 likesThey can act as another pillar in harmony in Equestria.
Mane 6 handles internal friendships
Young 6 handles pony relations to other species (and probably each others' too)
The Original Pillars handle magical safety
CMC handles identity problems
and this villain trio will then handle those who have 'other' ideas for Equestria... Maybe Diamond Tiara and Discord would be a part of this too.
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Maybe the villans could mean 'Everyone deserves a second chance' in some way? They can help villans who have lost battles and don't know what to do with themselves anymore.
17 likesFatd0gg0 yeah, that was my point. Both that, and convincing future villains what it means to have a prosperous equestria. Thus being in true Harmony, even amongst the villains
8 likesDaniel von Strangle those who think that they can abuse one part of their magical system or the other.
1 likeSimilar to how cozy glow wanted to abuse friendship, chrysalis loyalty, and tirek literal magic itself.
All of the above are in groups of 6 need 1 more person
0 likes@I Am unique what about Sombra? He is the only villain that no one has thought about. He has shown, time and time again, he can break free, come back from what was supposed to be death etc. What if he were brought back? What if he were reformed? Luna could be an option.
1 likeWell, TBH, we have real life animals that have multiple organs (cows with four stomachs, snakes with two dicks, earth worms having multiple ovaries, etc) so it's not unreasonable to believe that a centaur has two cardio vascular engines in him (2 sets of lungs, 2 hearts) it would help him maintain the flow of oxygen and just like Secretariat, who was found to have a heart four times the size of any normal horse, he can probably run VERY fast, for VERY long distances.
0 likesI could see this as an episode of the show, Twilight frees the villains from stone and tries over and over again to reform them but nothing seems to be working, eventually Twilight would give up and retreat to her castle to find the reforming spell.
0 likesDuring that time Chrysalis would storm off to her old hive while Cozy Glow and Tirek sit on a bench, Diamond Tiara pops up.
When Twilight comes back she finds the newly reformed Cozy Glow and Tirek drinking tea with Diamond Tiara.
Twilight freaks out over Chrysalis not being there and rushes to the changeling hive only to see the reformed Chrysalis.
i personally think that the key to reforming tirek is, Diamond Tiara and Stygian- they both wanted respect from parents / pillars. and tirek just wants respect from his own dad.
0 likesWeird hot take, but other than that we could also introduce him to the princess of love, and give him a sense of family and validation a different way! I feel like he'd do good with a lover to keep him in check.
0 likesBro I get the diamond tiara idea but I think the true pony who can reform tirek is...
687 likesTEMPEST SHADOW!!!
She sided with the storm king but he abandoned her kinda like how his brother sided with the ponies instead of taking over with tirek! Mainly I think Tempest I perfect because she was out to take for her broken horn and he wants all the magic to impress king vorak.
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She was just looking for something she wanting back her horn not really to make an exception you know
30 likes@Louisa Hansen good point
18 likesThatโs a pretty good theory but I think I think diamond tiara would be better because tempests backstory is betrayal while tireks is trying to prove loyalty to family
28 likesMaybe???
6 likesTirek isn't evil because he felt betrayed by his brother. He's evil because he wanted to impress his dad.
17 likesTempest also wanted to impress the storm king at first, but only to get her horn back. There was no familial connection between them. It was Tempest's broken horn and betrayal from her old friends that made her evil.
But the pressure from Tirek's father and also potentially the great glory from his family's past generations is what made Tirek evil. They are incompatible.
You mean.
5 likesAhem- Fizzlepop Berrytwist. Yeah, that was just a nickname she got. (As in Tempest Shadow is the Nickname)
@Arrowz Completely agree
1 likeI'm very happy somebody remembers tempest and the movie everybody has been acting like it never exist just like the movie was abandoned
4 likesOmg. So true so tru
2 likesYep, I do think that tempest shadow is perfect
1 likeLouisa Hansen ik u but at the same time he doesnโt
1 likeYEAH ME TOO!
1 like@Colm Byrne no she got Tempest shadow to replace that name, we only hear her say her real name once and i feel she prefers Tempest because the only pony she told was Twilight. if really wantehed to be called fizzlepop berrytwist she wouldve said it to EVERYPONY not just twilight.
4 likes@Dark โขA L L N I G H Tโข ty for what
1 likefor some reason i thought you'd say a glock after the cut lmao
1 likeWho is tempest shadow? Ohhh is he apart of the my little pony movie? I havenโt watched that
1 likeYES!!! TEMPEST IS PERFECT!!!
1 likeYes Tempest Shadow
1 likeShe was reformed at the end of her first appereanc then I never achully seen her after the movie
1 like@Mehar Saifee Tempest already appeared in the show. Remember the season finale? She was there
1 likeGimmecandy which season finale
1 likeGimmecandy oooo you mean The Ending Of The End part 2 the is not a season finale season 9 was the last season of MLP FIM so the last episode of FIM was The Last Problem
2 likesYes
1 like@Mehar Saifee Yes that is indeed what I meant
1 likeOhhh
0 likesYou mean the pony with the worst name ever (Fizzle-pop Berry-twist)
1 likeTempest was betrayed and only trusted the Storm King to get her horn back.
1 likeTirek was trying to live up to his father's expectations at the cost of his moral dignity.
They aren't similar in the slightest aside from wanting power. And even then the only power Tempest wanted was her own while Tirek wanted everyone else's power.
I feel like Tempest would just feel very awkward trying to reform someone who looks like the person who betrayed her. Especially when they have little in common.
Wow..
0 likesTempest only helped the storm king to get her horn back not to impress
1 likeyou mean fizzle pop berry twist?
0 likes(ใoใ)!!*gasp*๐ฑ Tempest!!!๐ tempest is the right Pony who can show Tirek the way of Good insted the way of Evil and Darknes!!!!๐๐คฉ
1 likeOkay, tirek wants power. He did that all to impress his father and to get to his father's expectations. Tempest impressed the storm king to give him power and get her horn back. The storm king wanted power. Tirek wants power. They both lookalike. Tempest might be an awkward match to reform tirek. I feel like the perfect match for reforming tirek is chrystalis and cozy. Cozy asked for help from tirek, and he helped her. So she will help someone that helped her too. Crystalis, she can show tirek the lighter side. So, those two might influence him to just go with them. I feel like they should travel the whole world to influence ponies/ other creatures to change for the better.
0 likesAndrian Malic yesh but tempest is easier
1 likeEveryone is saying the differences between tempest and tirek and I get that but I think there pasts are close enough for tempest to be the right one to reform him (srry if this is a copy idk if already wrote this down)
1 likeHold up.... Is it Tempest or Fizzlepopberrytwist?
2 likes@kiftik I actually have a different pony in mind stygian he look to become stronger for the respect of the pillars and he end gaining that power by becoming the pony of shadows but he felt lonely and abandoned like tirek did when his brother choose he's friends.
1 likeDonโt you mean fizzle pop berry twist?
1 likeโข Yinzu Loves nature โข both I just said Tempest cause her real name is VETY LONG
0 likesOr stygian
0 likesRia Luisa Santiago I saw a comment on it and then I threw this idea in the trash
0 likesโขpicka ChuUwU oh yeah true
0 likesThen again he more talks about the series not movie
0 likesโขpicka ChuUwU ooh wow thatโs cool
0 likes@iloveowls90 Don't forget Pinkie Pie! :)
0 likes@iloveowls90 But I thought she only told Pinkie Pie? And it annoys me when I don't have a YouTube account so people call me by my Dad's name. (Off topic, I know.)
0 likes@iloveowls90 I don't really remember the Movie but all I remember from it is parts of it, like how Tempest / Fizzlepop told Pinkie Pie and probably Twilight what her actually name was.
0 likes@OceanWolfyz_gaming Yt Lol I don't remember like half the movie, but all of a sudden it is flowing back into my tiny little brain
0 likeshmmm not a bad choice
0 likesIm thinking Tempest is the way to reform Tirek. Here me outโ Tempest was leading the attack against Equestria. The Storm King made her believe that she actually had a rank and would get what she desired. Both Tirek and Tempest where under a kings control (even if Tirek was a prince) they both went out to a new land and had the chance for friendship (For Tempest it was returning to her old home) Tempest didnโt let friendship into her heart until she realized that she had no value to The Storm King and would never get her horn back. Only then she accepted friendship into her heart. I think Tirek could relate to her in some ways about pleasing/taking orders from a king who did not care for their feelings or what they desired. Tempest could help show (along with reformed Cozy Glow and Chrysalis) that he doesnโt need to strive to please his father if his father doesnโt care for what he desires or feels and that power wonโt help it would only make it worse.
0 likesWhat do you think if my theory? Please tell me your thoughts and let me know if I missed anything, thanks! ๐
If him taking away magic/power gives him to give him a strong physique and to also please his dad. Friendship is MAGIC. We hear that all the time and what if gaining friendship will help him grow but not as strong as he did taking away all the ponies magic but enough to love himself as he is instead of taking everything away to please someone else other than himself. Kind of like the changelings. They were starving and love is what they used to seek, just like how Tirek seeks power. But friendship and Love is what makes them grow strong and fills that void in them.
1 likeGood idea but if it doesn't work, just get Fluttershy to reform him the way he did with discord.
1 likeAlso, you know the thing you said about Tirek's two "backs"? I think because his father is sort of a human so he has the legs of a pony and the upper part as a human just like his dad.
"Maybe Tirek can make up with his family" but its been 1000 years, how long do centaurs and gargoyles live? Tirek only lived that long because Tartarus has this magical stasis in place so the prisoners can go through eternal punishment (I guess, I can't prove that, but it would make sense). I don't think there's a whole lot to go back to.
0 likesAnd what about Starswirl? Didn't he make friends with Scorpan, or some equivalent of that?
Ok this was good but I have a couple notes
446 likesThese are likely being reformed all around the same time and Diamond tiara working with two villains at once would probably be too much work for her, so I think silver spoon would be a good pick too as she also felt like in order to stay at the top, she had to be a bully. The relationship between diamond tiara and silver spoon is actually very similar to the relationship between diamond tiara and spoiled rich.
Also Iโm sorry but I donโt think tirek will be able to reunite with scorpan. The legend sort of suggests that heโs dead and centaurs are probably not immortal (maybe the princesses had a spell put on tirek that made him not age while he was in tartarus)
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This is why Sawtooth said he would save Tirek for last. Chrysalis would be reformed somewhere else while Cozy is reformed by Diamond Tiara. Once the two of them are fully reformed, then DT would be helping Tirek. When it starts to go off plan, then DT brings in reformed Cozy and reformed Chrysalis so that they can help convince Tirek.
47 likesAlso, it's fair to believe that Tartarus is enchanted to stop all aging.
I would've picked Stygian. Mostly because he just fits the bill with Tirek pretty closely. Both wanted power to impress the ones they were close too and both got imprisoned for it. What separates them is that Stygian was given another chance and could possibly pave the way for Tirek as well.
22 likesYour smart
1 likeNot immortal but they may be long-lived. I don't think Tartarus stops aging though: Remember Tirek's normal form is old and shrivelled: he's only young due to stealing magic. Likely his brother is similarly aged, with their father deceased.
9 likesActually I checked the Wiki and it seems like Scorpan is canonically still alive since he had a planned appearance in the movie that was cut.
6 likesMaby stigeon vould help becuse he allways tried to inpress starswirl
2 likesKitsyKatsy The commenter OOOO U MUST HAVE A GOID IDEA IF U GOT A HEART
1 likeShadow Spectrum Swordtails THAT SO MUCH BETTER THAN MY IDEA
1 like@Cathy Grandstaff If cut it's not necessarily canonical.
0 likesI would personally find it weird of how tirek would fit in the pony world like rock hoof (the pillar of strength) life how would he fit in
0 likes2:32
0 likesCaught me off gaurd but the laughter that followed made me not question anything๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Diamond Tiara is the key to reforming villains.
1 likeI like all of these Thanks for making all of these video Please continue to make more :)
0 likesReforming Cozy Glow: *Shows picture of Discord* And that person is Diiiamond Tiara!
125 likesTrick me once, shame on me.
Reforming Tirek: *Makes me think it's Discord this time for real* And that person.. is DIAMOND TIARA AGAIN.
Trick me twice, shame on you!
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It's actually "fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you." But it's still the same thing.
1 likeBringing the other two villains in to convince tirek might work, OR He might throw queen chrysalisโs words back at her that friendship is a disease and they had both been infected and all that and end up turning both Chrysalis and cozy glow back into villains. Thatโs a big gamble there too.
0 likesI love your idea sawtooth waves and I want to see you as a reformed changing for a whole episode
0 likesI feel like for all three of them, Sunset Shimmer, Starlight Glimmer and Princess Luna could be more reasonable than Diamond Tiara and Pharynx. Possibly Stygian too. Plus, they have a lot of power, they could possibly turn them back to stone if they needed to. Or Discord.
0 likesA filly reforming a (at least 100 years old) Centaur is close to IMPOSSIBLE. and I really don't see it. REALLY!
1 likeI think it should be... Tempest Shadow. Or whatever her real name is. I haven't watched the movie in a long time alright? Anyway.
Tempest wanted to prove to the Storm king that she was capable of scaring everypony into doing what she wants. She wanted power , for a different reason than Tirek, yes. To get her horn back. To prove that she ^was^ capable of getting, no ^earning^ her horn back. Tirek on the other hand. or hoof in this case, wants to prove to King Vorak that ^he^ is capable of being powerful. He wanted to impress him. To make him proud. After the betrayal by his brother he was more angry than power hungry. As Sawtooth said, no one is evil just to be evil. There's motive behind it. Tempest's motive was showing the Storm King that she is capable of earning her horn back, and Tirek's was showing his father that he had the capability of being powerful.
SHOWING CAPABILITY. that's what they wanted. What they both wanted. The anger inside from all the dejection and rejection from others (Tempest's friends in her memories and Tirek's brother) caused the EVIL side to come out.
Based on Tirek's backstory in the comics, it seems like King Vorak didn't approve of Tirek's thirst for power, and actively discouraged him for engaging with Sendak the Elder who tried to teach him about stealing magic from other beings. When Tirek does try steal the magic from a unicorn Sendak captured, he causes an explosion, causing Vorak to arrest Sendak and confining Tirek to his chambers while Vorak returns the unicorn to Equestria, not wanting to start a war between the nations.
23 likesIt appears Sendak planted the lust for power in Tirek's mind, but it should also be mentioned that Vorak felt threatened by Triek's goals, fearing Tirek's gifts could be his downfall. While Tirek does seem to feel like he doesn't live up to his father's expectations, I think that Vorak may unintentionally may also be to blame for Tirek's current state of mind. Tirek seems to view being a true king as one who exerts great power, which makes sense as while his father appears be a ruler who rules in a similar manner to Celestia, he is much more strict in doing so and will exert his power to conserve his own rule, which seems to be why he fears Tirek's thirst for power.
If Tirek could be shown that being a true ruler doesn't come from intimidation and power, but from a want for what is best for all his subjects, maybe that could help him reform. And what do you know, Diamond Tiara went through that exact same thing during "Crusaders of the Lost Mark", where she finds out that being the best Student Body President is not through use of blackmail and bribes to get what she wants and uses the money she has access to to better the playground for all students to use. Tirek would then learn that forcing his power upon others won't make him truly happy, but that using those powers to better the lives of others will. Learning the same lesson also learnt by Chrysalis and Cozy (who would back up Diamond Tiara), he would come to accept that he was a worthy successor as long as he and his people saw each other eye-to-eye.
And heck, maybe he could teach this lesson to his own father, whom while a good leader who wanted the best for his people, didn't seem to realize that his people were his power, and that as long as he had them, he had no real worry of losing the crown. With Vorak now knowing his true source of power was his people, and having learnt that from the centaur who'd he'd worry would overthrow him, Vorak could apologize for leading his son astray while Tirek could apologize for not seeing what truly mattered: His people and relationship he had with them. That way, when the time came, it would allow Tirek to rule over his father's kingdom as a true successor, knowing that his real power from from his friends and his loyal subjects.
Villains and Reformed Villains that could help reform them
0 likesChrysalis: Starlight Glimmer, Fizzlebop Berrytwist (Tempest Shadow), and Pharynx
Cozy Glow: Diamond Tiara and Discord (Discord can help motivate Cozy to do what is right and Diamond Tiara can teach Cozy through her stories of experiencing friendship about the benefits of friends and thus Cozy would be reformed)
Tirek: Luna, Sunset Shimmer and Luster Dawn
There you have it
I feel like if he had to talk with princess luna he could also be reformed, she didn't have to impress anyone nor did she want to but she wanted the same power when she was nightmare and wanted to overthrow her sister so she could get some sort of recognition
0 likesI think that the one that will be able to reform tirek is his own brother. think about it, his brother found the light and help give tirek his โtime out.โ He could tell tirek that he doesnโt have to be like there dad. He can choose his own way.
0 likesDiamond tiara is like the most important character in the entire show
0 likesSawtooth Waves: Laughs
205 likesEveryone liked that
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no one , UUUUUHHHHGGGGGG screams
2 likesHhshdhdhhd Iโm dying heโs so cute
5 likesyas
2 likes@John Raynor :<
2 likes@John Raynor I deleted my comment so now u dont make sense
2 likes@no one I still remember it :3
2 likes@Mikaisno I KNOW RIGHT?! His voice is so calming and CUTE!!!
5 likesIt's adorable ๐ฅบ
2 likesMLP need to look and form some episodes or movie off of this brilliant person.
0 likesThey really should have hired you to write the Season 10 comic arc. It would have been much more FiM than the comics ended up being.
0 likesIt's more likely that someone else can reform tirek and show him better things like a argument. Just think of it like this: tirek is William afton from fnaf and the ponys whose magic he stole a missing children. Princess twilight is someone saying he doesn't need a second chance and maybe summer dawn (I think) would be the one giving him a second chance, as summer dawn most likely knows everything he did now but summer has come far in her studies and more resembles Gallus than twilight and if Gallus had a probably very bad childhood without a family so he could almost relate to tirek. Also Gallus's want to stay with his friends at hearts warming is similar to tirek thirst for power just less evil. And as summer dawn seems a lot like Gallus perhaps she could do it
1 likeI feel like princess luna or even sunset shimmer could reform Tirek as well
1 likeIf Tirek ever did get reformed i would imagine one of the things he would do during his reformation would be to return to his homeland and try to make peace with Scorpan, and he could use his ability to absorb magic to help other creatures.
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Yeah, like if there was some other magic stealing creature in Equestria, Tirek could help by absorbing all the stolen magic from that creature and then returning the magic to it's rightful owners, you know kinda like how he gave Chrysalis her magic back in Frienemies and when he did the same in the Summer Sun Setback.
1 likeHmmm... How so? How could taking away magic be helpful? Yes, I get that he totally COULD be reformed, but what could he do after? The other two have at least some semblance of an idea of where to go next. (Back to the hive, perhaps as an important member and a part of the school respectively) Where could he go? And absorbing magic makes him more powerful. After some time, wouldn't it be possible for him to rebel himself, like a human would addiction to a drug?
1 like@NotSoDogNinja Try reading my comment, that'll answer your question you dork.
0 likes@Historybuff0601127 Sorry, commented probably JUST after you, then. ^.^
0 likesI think you should keep trying to convince Princess Twilight to try this. She is all about the magic of friendship. Maybe if you explain this to her, she would be willing to give your plan a try.
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I agree with that sawtooth
0 likesFlurry heart is Equestrias last hope (twilight said that in the episode "Ending Of The End" when cadence offered to help and twilight didn't want it and told her to protect flurry.) ,and in the flash to the future, there was a stained glass pane with a grown flurry holding the crystal heart(you mentioned this when you "solved" flurry.),I think flurry saved the world and that's why that window was made.
0 likesI think the already reformed Cozyglow & Chrysilys is a good option or possibly Luna
0 likesIt Would Be Incredible For Tirek To Turn Good Like All The Rest Villains.
0 likesDiamond Tiara is the princess of reformation. You cannot convince me otherwise.
1 likeWhat is DiamondTiaraโs special talent?
1 likeLeadership? Nah!
so what is it?
Reforming villains of course!
if Tirek embraces friendship, is there a way to give him enough power to get him to his 2nd level of power? (the version where he's red, with short horns, not the curved horns, the level Grogar (discord)'s magic got him to?
0 likesI was thinking at first if Luna could reform Tirek. Because she wanted to prove to everypony that she is just as important as Celestia. But, now that you suggested Diamond Tiara, I think she would be better at reforming Tirek.
0 likesDiamond tiara really did roast her mom just by saying โI realized something I have that u donโt have... FrIeNds
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As sick of burn that was I immediately wondered if she ever gotten whooped or grounded for that, even if she was definitely in the right to say that
13 likesxxChainingHeartsxx you know what Iโve actually never thought of that did she ????
0 likes@โขMythicalClรธudโข My cynical side says 'heck ya' but of course we'll never know.I guess our best bet would be to try to imagine what OUR parents would do in that situation ๐
3 likes2:06-2:14 LITERALLY HAD ME DYING OF LAUGHTER TOO!!!
0 likesLittle late here but, I think you could also use Luna for this situation, firstly, she wanted to make the ponyโs proud of her night sky if you get what Iโm saying, second, she also turned into nightmare moon, like tirek, wanted power and appreciation, and lastly Luna was reformed herself, because of the elements just like tirek was defeated by them, Luna also had a quarrel with her sister like tirek has with his brother, their almost like two of the same, Luna could help terek see that their are other ways to be appreciated and loved, them just gaining power.
0 likeshey sawtooth i have been wondering.... since you've made these 3 wonderfull videos about the villains how about making of king sombra and the ponie of shadows? about how to reform king sombra you'll need diamond tiara AGAIN, sunset shimmer and her human friend twillight, also you may need princess luna and discord..... about the pony of shadows it is known that it is connected to stigion and princess luna so they would be great help.... the tantabus that luna made can help too.... since even though it's form is gone we know that they are a part of luna, and stigion would try and show that even though they are a strong force they are lonely, and if they are then the power they have is useless, discord would be the best help on this part though since they are an embodiment of a dark force too, the hardest character i can find difficult to help would be grogar by how little info we have.... sombra is focused on ruling and in power, coazy glow and the others would help, even queen crystalis, discord can do his necromancer thing again.... and with the power of friendship the pillars can bring the pony of shadows back so that luna and stigion can help it.... but all of this is a speculation, although since we have a princess of the night we could also save dark creatures
0 likesI have a question, in the the ninth series of mlp, tirek was able to give back Chrysalis's magic, is it true if he steals alot if magic he can give it to cozy glow and Chrysalis? Making them more powerful?
0 likesLow-key thought you were going to say Trixie ๐ because she is so great and powerful
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That what I was kinda hoping for
0 likesYeah, I guess that does make sense.
0 likesI mean, Scorpan tried to reform his brother before and failed, why would he have any better luck a second time?
That laugh at 2:08 had me cracking - I did NOT expect it to be Diamon Tiara, and he just kept laughing like - ๐
0 likesI think how this situation would turn out is like this, there would be a powerful villian / monster etc and terik would defeat them and the village would cheer for him making him feel powerful
0 likesI wish Sawtooth waves was my history teacher
1 likeThe Truth is this moment in the show that Discord mentions is actualy a call back to an origan story in the comicbook sries made for Tirek. Tirek's father was actual benevelent in some ways and he did not aprove of Tirek hanging out with another more elderly Centaur who practiced questionable magic. I feel that Tirek what ever his issues was wit his dad, he commited his actions not to be excepted by his father but because he wanted to surpass his father and prove he was better than him and anyoneelse. His brother was only companion too until he joined with Star swirl. Tirek might see the reformation of his old team mates as no differant. We would have to dive deeper into his relationship with his father and his own past life before we could honestly reform him so easily. I think the true way to get through to him is if his Father was still alive somehow and he was to somehow make amends. or maybe he returns to his father's kingdom and maybe learns somethings about his father that makes him better understand somethings and come to respect his father more. He was more of a rebel after all rather than just acting to seek aproval. because his father did not aprove of him asorbing other creatures magic.
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Sunset shimmer sounds like a good candidate to help him then. Either that or twilight since twilight helped sunset.
19 likesLink to it pls ?
3 likesTrue, but that was in the comics, which aren't strictly canon, so I think in the cartoon's universe what Discord is saying is true. After all, what Discord says is far from wanting to show his father he's better than anyone else. If Discord was wrong about Tirek fearing he would never be ENOUGH for Vorak, Tirek would have laughed at him. "Why would I worry about dad? I will defeat him soon enough."
17 likesBut even if he learn something, it wouldn't matter to him because he wants to absorb magic and still hate his dad.
3 likesDimond Tiara a small child , can help villains reform .
1 likeSHE SHOULD BECOME A MEMBER OF THE CMC AS LIKE AN EXTRA TO HELP
VILLIANS -
When I read the title I was like I think he could be nice and helpful
1 likeI love this I hope you do more videos and I always watch your videos and uploads
0 likesI thought tirek wanted power because in school raze tirek said that draining power from the world was a waste of delicious power. I think he wants to eat it like how changlings feast on love but if he reforms and sees the light in friendship like his brother maybe he wonโt be hungry on power like the changlings donโt starve on love
1 likeHow to reform him: get everyones name right
155 likesalso get prince zuko
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huzzah! a man of culture!
11 likes@Franek RB yes
5 likesBut make all of equestria to say the right names will be almost impossible. They can't even say
3 likesTwinkleTwilight on the right wayMlp in a nutshell hehe
2 likestakes deep breath HONOOOOUUUUURRRRRR
4 likesTirek is definitely alot more evil than zuko ever was though, get vegeta instead
2 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD w who is vegeta
0 likes@kyotaina kinda like zuko except way more evil from Dragon Ball Z
2 likesHello! Zuko here
0 likesI normally always agree with you with these videos but this time I'm a little confused about terik accepting I don't feel like he would accept it I think he would probably say something like are you guys crazy why would you do that giving away your power for stupid friendship or something along the lines of that
0 likesMaybe princess luna could also help tirek? I mean she tried to gain power from her sister only to end up trapped in the moon, only when she was freed and twilight taught her about friendship did she become the great princess we know now.
0 likesChrysalis looks so pretty reformed!
0 likesIโd just have Scorpan come instead of Diamond Tiara. Maybe Diamond Tiara, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow try to reform him but Tirek just sees the latter two as traitors like his brother and Scorpan shows up himself revealing that he was running late. And maybe just a conversation between the two can make them work things out instead of getting people he knows and doesnโt all at once. Scorpanโs probably ruling Tirekโs home ( if heโs still alive ) so wouldnโt he drop what heโs doing just to see his brother again instead of wait until Tirekโs already changed? Diamond Tiara can still change him assuming Scorpan passed away and thatโs why we never met him in the show.
0 likesHey, Sawtooth Waves, I have a version for if they all won't be freed/
0 likesWhat if after centuries being imprisoned in one stone their spirits will slowly unite in one (they are prisoned in the very same stone after all). Then after the process is competed their powers will unite as well forming a creature powerful enough to escape from the stone.
I even have found a probable desigh of that creature:
https://youtu.be/Vxwx2FWfDHM?t=416
what do you think?
I concur with that, now twilight has to start the process reforming them as soon as possible
0 likesI feel after he would be reformed he would start to become strong kinda like thorax when he found friendship
0 likesRemember he can absorb magic how will dimond tiara,cozy glow,and chistalis avoid that i suggest putting a shield to protct them or a spell that can prevent him from doing that so.
0 likes2:08
0 likesThe fact that he laughed is even funnier๐๐๐
Tirek, to me, through this video, feels like an alternate version of Faramir. Change my mind
0 likesIt doesn't necessarily have to be diamond tiara it can also be twilight as her biggest fear was displeasing her mentor
0 likesyou know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek besides Diamond Tiara? his brother Scorpan because remember in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and become friends with the ponies (all kinds including the princesses too)
0 likesI don't think Tirek would stand for another foal trying to manipulate him. He only ever saw friendship as a "weakness", believing his enemies beat him through sheer luck.
61 likesAnd the comics depicted King Vorak as a decent guy, whose treatment of Tirek was motivated by his son's scheming, and the (entirely justified) fear of what he would do if he got his hands on power.
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THANKYOU!!!! Thatโs what I said! Are we LITERALLY the ONLY people who have read the books?!
1 likeLord Blu Omg yess!! I honestly almost forgot about that!
0 likesDiamond Tiara is not a foal anymore though, SHE IS AN ADULT
0 likes@Abigail Shepherd In the future, maybe. But she's still a nobody to Tirek.
0 likesVorak doesn't seem to be the problem, but Tirek himself.
0 likesAs Fiendship is Magic #2 portrays, Vorak never had high expectations of his son to be a good heir to the throne because he was power-hungry since day one, leading to the expectation that he will one day be usurped by him.
To fix this you'd have to completely remove Tirek's hunger for power.
And I find it strange you've been using the cutouts from that same comic, but not used the context.
They should really put it in the show
1 likeIn my dream tirek was the only member of that trio to knocked me over by severing my nee
2 likesYou have never talked about the fact that when Cody glow tried to drain all the magic she said to put it in a different dimension and I think that's the human world dimension because she comes from the human dimension just like you said
0 likesPowerful Enemies who can kill anyone in their path:
45 likesDiamond Tiara: I'm about the destroy their whole career
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STOP!!!!
0 likesThis is relevant to his ribcages, not his evilness.
0 likesMaybe he just has one long, bendy ribcage leading from his stomach to his horse. Or, from one stomach to another. The same could go with the backs.
Diamond Tiara has been through so much yet she is so strong
0 likesAnd now she can reform 2 evil people
You could throw in Iron will to help diamond Tara as he may not have daddy issues but he has alot to say about standing up for yourself regardless of what others think also they would relate over their love of muscle but not as something needed to dominate
0 likesOkay I put two other comments in both theories of how both Queen Chrysalis and Cozy Glow could be reform by people in the EG universe. Sunset Shimmer reforming Cozy Glow and The Shadow Bolts reforming Queen Chrysalis, than who would be able to reform Lord Tirek, it would be Juniper Montage. After all, her actions in both "Movie Magic and Mirror Magic" were almost the same as Tirek actions. In Mirror Magic, when magic hit a mirror and Juniper Montage saw a better version of herself, she took drastic measures of capturing the mane 7 and using their magic to become more bigger and better, just like Tirek. So in this scenario, Lord Tirek would be the last one to be freed, he bumps into Juniper Montage, there, they can share similar backstory and Juniper could be able to covince him to reform. And Tirek would decide to stay in the human world and get a job at the mall, not at the movie plex, but maybe somewhere close so he and Juniper have a conversation.
0 likesRight everyone. Let's clear the path, the saviour Diamond Tiara's coming.
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Yesss!
2 likesTrue
1 likeBest reformed filly!
2 likesShe helped us once (The playground) She helped us again (Cozy Glow) And guess what? SHE HELPS US AGAIN RIGHT HERE WITH TIREK
2 likesDiamond tiara should be the true ruler of equestria
2 likesWhen sawtooth waves said diamond tiara is the key again he started laughing and that made my day literally
0 likesHey Sawtooth Waves, what if King Sombra could have been redeemed?? I havent seen that much fans talking about his backstory and his true love Radiant Hope.
0 likesHey Sawtooth,i got a theory!
1 likeLaughter is not an element. Is not possible.The other five have important traits like:Loyalty,Honestly,Kindness,Generosity and Magic.Butttttt laughing is not a "so important"thing in equestria,like,many ponies do not like laughing or Pinkies' jokes,and they are ok.
And i should add that Pinkie is selfish and careless too(luckily not too much),like she many times almost KILLED HER FRIENDS and just laughed,and in some adventures she didn't care of the mission but she cared of her own interests...So she may be cute and fun,but she is not a really good person and didn't deserve an element.
Take Raimbow as an example:She many times almost killed her friends,but she noticed her mistake and apologised,while Pinkie pie did not.
sawtooth spitting some hard facts here it literally broke me
0 likesImagine reforming two villains as a child. Take that mane 6 ๐
25 likesI kinda wanna draw Tirek, cosy glow and diamond tiara getting ice cream ๐
0 likesI think Starloght Glimmer would be good to reform Tirek too but then again that's just my opinion...
0 likesThey both seeked something that was related to their past struggles...
What about king sombra? I would love to see him reformed (I don't know how though)
0 likesmaybe luna can reform him, she felt similar , she wanted power to prove to everypony that she was powerful and not useless.
0 likesidkk why but i can see a princess helping the centar
Itโs possible that Tirek has the wrong idea about how to impress his dad
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Sydney Locher possible...?
0 likesI mean exactly true lol
0 likesOh... Yes! Marvelous idea! Tirek thought that conquering other lands would win his father's approval, but it turns out Vorak isn't a conquer-y type of king.
1 likeSo, maybe his dad could also be a key to Tirek's reformation.
@BronyNumber4096 maybe scorpan, his brother, could help too!
0 likes@Sydney Locher I dunno. He tried before and it didn't work.
0 likesOr do you mean Scorpan, in collaboration with Vorak, trying to help Tirek? That might work.
I finally realized I wanted something you donโt have... friends!
9 likesOooOOooOoohhhh
If your idea doesnโt work, we got to get all the reformed villains together , Diamond tiara discord cozy glow chrysalis The whole changeling hive and maybe even Silver spoon Because Silverspoon was trying to be a part of diamond tiara is drama because Silver spoon said and I quote โ I donโt need to follow in her drama anymoreโ so maybe She could show trek itโs not worth impressing somebody Who doesnโt care about you whatsoever
1 likeItโs settled! If you need to reform any villain go to diamond tiara!
0 likesSeems like Dimond Tira needs to be the one that fixes all problems
0 likesThis has been an amazing trilogy
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I'm glad you enjoyed it! ^^
3 likesI smell more seasons from a MILE away im not sure if mlp will come back but if this ever ACTUALLY happenes in the show i think me and a lot of others would LOVE that also your fan thery is the best ive seen!
0 likesHonestly I think you should be reform just like chrysalis well I know heโs reforming but he would look scary to every pony still so I really want you to talk about that and I love your videos bye
1 likeWe have a lot of characters that can help tirek reform. We got: diamond tiara, princess Luna, sunset shimmer, discord, starlight glimmer, and possibly his own brother, scorpan! Maybe even sci-twi from the equestria girls spinoff.
0 likesI think the key to reforming him is his brother... Now donโt get me wrong ur theory is really good but I think his brother is the key because when he gave discord the pendant in Season 4 he said โmy brother that betrayed me gave it to me it is as worthless as he isโ I think his brother chose friendship over power so I think thats what he meant by โbetrayed meโ
0 likesHow will Diamond Tiara not get defeated or harmed by Tirek? I would think Tirek would not take a nice approach when he sees her.
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Well similar to Cozy and Bug queen, there would be discord there to make sure that nothing terrible can occur. And I highly doubt Tirek would because he knows how powerful discord is.
24 likesmagic absorption go brr
3 likes@Eclipse I don't think tirek can do that this time though, notice how he waited until he got a lot stronger to absorb discord in ss4 , I think he needs some fuel first to get discord
5 likes@Eclipse Remember when Discord and Tirek encountered each other in Season 4. Tirek tried to attack Discord, but he just wasn't strong enough to do anything to him. Had Tirek not manipulated Discord into helping him, Discord would've sent him back to Tartarus easily. The only reason he could steal Discord's magic later was because he was already strong enough to do so. So I agree with @Ngoc, Tirek wouldn't be able to steal Discord's magic because he needs to become stronger first before he can do that.
4 likesBecause Discord can turn him back to stone
0 likesAll the prior replies, and I would also think presumably Tirek wouldn't be released from stone until after the other two have been reformed for at least a couple years with no backsliding - since in this theory they're involved in his reformation, so it'd be better if their footing as good guys was more secure. So Diamond Tiara wouldn't be quite so tiny a pony anymore and would have learned the skills to reform him without ever putting herself in a position where he could beat her up.
0 likesAh yes, the ultimate redemption arc that trumps any other:
0 likesbonding over mommy/daddy issues
You got the princess of the moon the princess of the sun the princess of love the princess of friendship the princess of light and diamond tiara as the princess of
0 likesReforming
One more season could've done so much for this show, but alas it's been 2 years and crying over spilt milk has never helped anyone
0 likesTwilight would be a better fit because she started off thinking friendship was useless to her until she made friends. She was in a much similar position to Tirek. She wanted to get stronger on her own, thinking friends would just get in her way but that changed when she actually made some. She got stronger in a good way due to friendship. That's what my lover says at least. They don't like to comment on stuff so I did it for them
0 likesAt this point
1 likeSheโs just relatable
I think you forgot that Diamond Tiara is not a filly anymore, in the last episode of season 9 it shows all of the young ponies fully grown. Even Pumpkin Cake and Pound Cake
0 likesIdk if tireack can be reformed. He can take anyoneโs magic. Anyone who even tried to reform him would lose their magic
0 likesYou should make a tutorial on reforming any villian.
0 likesThe medallion he received from his brother... he wore it for hundreds of years... he still cares โค๏ธ
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Buut... he did give it away with false pretenses to discord and didn't care about it after that..
3 likes@ClareLaBelleRose oooo thats a possibility too... he too much of an angry boi to be... loving in that manner.
2 likesI thought you were going to say Princess Luna but Diamond Tiara is definitely more neutral
0 likesCan we talk about the fact that Discord knows about Tirek's... dad? You've theorized that Discord was "born" shortly before he was defeated, so how could he have known about someone who existed back when Tirek's dad was around. Unless his dad is still alive? But where is he now then??? There's a few holes here... ALSO TIREK AND DISCORD KNEW EACHOTHER!!!! HOW DID TIREK KNOW OF DISCORD AND VISE VERSA?!?!? I would love to see you figure this out lol
0 likesYou'd be a great detective and you're super smart
0 likesMaybe we could use Sunset Shimmer! She was manipulative and made everyone at candrolot high terrified of her, if they used the book thing to call her back Sunset and Diamond could both tell how they went from evil villain to good friend
0 likes"The approval of someone who doesn't want what's best for you isn't worth seeking."
0 likesis it just me or is cozy glow,diamon tiara,silver spoon,apple bloom, sweetie belle,scotaloo,will be the next friendship is magic
0 likesLuna could also show him how gaining power does not equal respect and admiration
0 likesThis would work only if Tirek would have some desire stronger than his lust for power/lust for satisfying his family.
0 likesPlot twist. Diamond tiara is also a changeling for chrysalis
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Tobias Aldridge that doesnโt make any sense
3 likesButton mash the gamer plot twist. its a joke.
3 likesellie lalonde the joke is not funny
1 like@Scootaloo cutie Mark Crusaders chile anyways so
2 likes@Button mash the gamer
2 likesDuh, the changing ls job was to steal and spy for queen chrysalis, um, killing, (or whatever) Diamond tiara and pretended to be her. The changing liked the power of manipulation he had over his school bc its more influence he ever got under the Queen? Idk where Iโm going with this but yeE
Hey your message was awesome oh I have no idea how about YouTube videos about ponies please donโt say no please say yes yes yes yes yes please pretty please I mean your message is so good I forget sometimes why I say YouTube anyways do it
1 like@Sade King r/ihadastroke
0 likesI wonder, if centaurs have two rib cages what if they have two hearts?
1 likeI was expecting princess Luna, who went to far for power because of family, but yeah okay that works.
0 likesWhy is it that hearing tirek, to me, makes him kinda sound like emperor bellows from the Owl House? I why does hearing dimond tiara and crisalis, kinda makes them, to me, sound like Amity and Lilith from the Owl House?
0 likesI do not know if someone has said this yet but in twilights Kingdom episode part 2 when tyreke betrayed discord he took discords magic too so tyreke has the power to absorb chaos magic but with cosy glow and chrysalis he doesn't?ummmm
3 likesbro, poor Diamond Tiara why not Luna? She sought out power and made an eternal night for the validation of her ponies but never got it. The power it took from becoming Nightmare Moon can somewhat relate to Tirek and realising there are other ways to gain approval will also help him see that there's no need to please everyone as long as you're comfortable in yourself
0 likesI reckon ponies who can reform Tirek are most likely to be a powerful pony like Princess Luna. Iโm sure he couldnโt care less of any โlow-lifeโ ponies
0 likesI honestly think ember would also help cuz she wanted to prove herself to her father
0 likesI wonder, if Tirek were to ever go back to his homeland, would he find King Vorak or King Scorpan? Because we really don't know much about current circumstances of the land, maybe Scorpan is King.
0 likesThis is the first time Iโve heard you laugh.
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Yeah
7 likesThis actually IS the first time ive heard him laugh.
oh hai sans!
18 likes@Sawtooth Waves I have a theory after discord put a stupid test for twilight after the final battle he finally got grogar bell it possible he going to give the bell to the real grogar similar to moonrise alternate ending when grogar went inside discord body to escape tambelon but instead going inside discord body. Grogar tell discord to get his bell and bring it back to him, if that not true then what happened to grogar bell ?
2 likesWhat about another villain.
0 likesHave we forgotten about him already?
I mean Pony of Sha-
Jk
It's Sombra.
Seriously, the dude got so much care put into him in comics but in official show he's just thrown away like a garbage.
And we already know Discord can revive him from friendship blasts.
So, can you make a case for reforming Sombra? And maybe some other obscure villains like Flim n Flam.
..I think diamond tiara would just die very quickly to Tirek.
0 likesIn order to make it actually work you should probably make sure Tirek cant move
Okay! Anyone whos seen avatar the last airbender knows that Zuko would fit the job perfectly
0 likesThere shouldโve been a season ten where they got reformed
0 likesAnd the trilogy concludes with a BANG... of friendship! Looking forward to whats coming up next! :D
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thanks!!
1 likeTo the creators of mlp, you should wrote down everything this dude says, because probably everybody wants to see the Villans reformed.
0 likesHey I want to know if anyone still care about these of questions i have listed for the show like...
0 likes1 Are there any zebras other than Zecora?
2 We never got a mention of the Diamond Dogs again what happened to them?
3 Things said but never talked about again like how actual ponies turning into trees because of the Swamp Fever! Was that one of the few reasons why everyone was scared of the "Dangerous" Everfree Forest? Is the Everfree Forest made out of ponies who wondered into it and never came out?
I just realized that where the villains are placed (where tyrek and cozy glow were) never get food... how do they not starve
0 likesI was sort of thinking for tierk maybe Starlight or even Luna, especially Luna bc she only wanted for her people to love her as much as they did Celestia
0 likesCould you please continue this series with Sombra? I know heโs dead now, but I think it would still be really nice to see how he couldโve been redeemed...
29 likesNever realize that Diamond Tiara posseses Talk no jutsu
1 likewatches video then looks at comments and sees other suggestions
0 likesOh wow. All of these would work! Good job Sawtooth and comments section!
Sawtooth waves:โThe key to reforming Tirek is diamond ti-โ
0 likesMe: okay goodbye to this craziness
You made me rethink the existence of all centaurs, why do they have a rump at their horse half when their human half is breathing?๐
0 likesIf those three canโt reform him I think maybe discord can, I know he wasnโt in the same shoes and tirek and canโt relate but maybe he can show him that friendship is better than power by showing his relationship with flutter shy and maybe try to get one of the mane six to befriend him to show him that friendship is better than power. That is just my theory and I know itโs probably a bad one :โD
289 likesEdit: I completely forgot this existed and now it has a lot of likes :โD
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I agree..
2 likesI actually though he was gonna say discord instead of diamond tiara cause i feel like he have a easier chance trusting someone alot similar to him when it come to amount of power
19 likesDiscord was the one who decided Tirek should be punished for all time. No matter how convincing Discord may be, Tirek won't ever listen to him.
19 likesTirek used Discord. I don't think they'd get along very well
13 likesGimmecandy: plus if family really meant so much to Tirek, then Discord calling him out for having daddy issues won't encourage him to associate with Discord.
11 likes@Shadow Spector Yup most definitely
1 like@Shadow Spector the two would probably try to kill each other lol although if we go the anime route they could end up enemies become rivals
4 likesFresh2000: although I strongly, strongly dislike Discord, I have to admit that he's the most powerful being there is. Tirek wouldn't stand a chance even though I'll always be rooting for him.
0 likes@Shadow Spector dang discords heart was in the right place :(
2 likesFresh2000: maybe at the beginning when he wanted to boost Twilight's confidence but definitely not at the end when he delighted in torturing the trio.
1 like@Shadow Spector hmm i mean he did risk his life to deflect a beam that could have killed him to help everypony captured get free. They did steal his powers captured him and dragged him around on a chain and tried to purposely sadistically harm his friends. And even if discord made them strong enough to do these things in the first place, they still choose to go out and cause havoc on their own and took pleasure in doing so and didn't have any remorse or guilt for their actions in the end for doing so. So while maybe cruel its really understandable that the princesses discord and others would want to get back at them after all that.
2 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD Well the trio didn't really do anything sadistic to the Mane 6 or the princesses. All they did was trap them. While Discord freed them again, simply freeing the mane 6 isn't enough for basically dooming Equestria by releasing the trio. Also the trio went ahead to follow their own initial desires because Chrysalis interrupted their realization of being good in Frenemies. What they needed was help from the heroes to be better. And while it sounds like it would be understandable for the "heroes" to "get back at them after all that," what they did was far too cruel for anyone to ever experience. The only thing that really needed to happen would be to put the trio back in Tartarus where they wouldn't harm anyone since they were not a threat. The princesses and Discord instead trapped the trio in stone for all eternity while they are still conscious. That's horrendous.
1 like@Shadow Spector the trio tried to kill the mane 6 multiple times in the finale and tear off spikes wings. When captured cozy stated she wanted to kill them, crystalsis said lets have fun with our guest to show that we broke them implying torture and was gonna allow the windigos to turn eq to a frozen wasteland. Frenemies shows that just because everycreature has the potential to change for the better doesn't mean that they ultimately will. When discord got turned back to evil in s4 he ultimately shows signs of guilt before getting betrayed and once betrayed was depressed of realizing how he betrayed fluttershy with his actions of wanting power. Discord as grogar is him not thinking things through with his established character flaw of arrogance and having a chaotic way of helping which led to the biggest fuckup ever but still an accident none the less of actually trying to be a good friend. Villains have only ever been truly reformed/forgiven in this story when having guilt for their actions like at least apologizing & making an effort of trying to be better and given they showed none to the characters and tried to do far worse than other threats they faced who they also have punished like nightmare moon, sombra, discord when he was evil into stone etc. Ofc they'd punish the trio. The trio being released or not is up to the current leader twilight.
2 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD Discord is the only villain in the show who has felt remorse for his actions while still evil. Everyone else, if they have been reformed, only show that they don't want to be doing what they're doing only after their reformation. The closest thing to remorse before redemption is Starlight, but she was just crying about her failed friendship. With the trio, they were talking about how they would rather be good than be evil, but Chrysalis stirred them from their realization moment to encourage them to continue being bad. What they needed was someone there to help them be good and stay on the right path since every reformed villain prior has had someone help them reform. Discord had Fluttershy. Starlight had Twilight. Stygian had Starlight and Twilight. etc. Cozy had no one other than Twilight asking her why she did the things she did. Then Cozy was sent to Tartarus instead of being helped. Tirek had no one. Chrysalis was given a chance but at the wrong time, and should've been helped later. And what the trio did was not the worst thing that has happened to Equestria. Starlight basically destroyed Equestria several times over, and she still got help from Twilight, a chance to be put on the right path. The trio was merely subdued and beaten, and then promptly executed out of sadistic and vengeful fury.
3 likesNow if you truly don't believe the trio would choose to be good even though they made it clear that they wanted it, then they still could've been treated better than what they got. I know it's understandable to want revenge, but protagonists are not supposed to take that revenge. They're supposed to struggle with it and then ultimately decide mercy, or else they're no better than the villains. If you truly don't believe the villains would have chosen good, then they should've been sent back to Tartarus since that showed not to have any lasting effects on the prisoners' sanity. Equestria would be safe, and the trio would not have been tortured endlessly. It would've been an overall better sendoff.
@Shadow Spector dont get me wrong im not saying it isn't possible for them to reform anything is possible this trilogy was good theory videos, its a tough brutal lesson to teach but a necessary one for kids, someone has the potential to do better maybe even wants to on some level but some wont ultimately choose that over there own evil. Tirek tried to doom eq twice. Crystalsis has to tried to doom eq countless times. Cozy glow has probably the least excuse outta the three, child or not because she obviously has the intelligence of an adult and despite being in a school of friendship learning friendship still choose to do evil and betray the ponies who treated her as friends. They could be better but the characters aren't obliged to give them another chance when they have tried to kill them and etc and dont even apologize for it, literally if they only said sorry given how these characters are they would have forgave em and wouldn't have been punished for their actions. And starlight did it on an accident, the 3 tried to purposefully doom everything. Fiction has deluded people into thinking that if an remorseless evil person tries to harms u and u harm them back, that that makes u as bad as they are. Despite only doing it in retaliation, the characters are heroic they'll protect their country and forgive but also aren't pushovers who will allow evil to walk all over them. Which is why they have punished villains before, i also don't even think the mean 3 are coscious in stone because discord was only conscious because hes a reality warper.
2 likesMaybe fluttershy ๐ค bc she reformed Discord
0 likestwilight... will not be friends with him. he.. destroyed her house.
0 likes@MyaGamingKat and he tried to kill her in the ending of the end twice
0 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD
0 likesFor the lesson of a villain having the potential to be good but not choosing it, this lesson could've been portrayed a lot better. If the writers made it like Starlight Glimmer in which Twilight was trying her best to reform her but Starlight woudln't listen, causing Twilight to be forced to stop her actions, then this lesson would've been accurately shown. But for the trio, the princesses should've tried to give them another chance, and if they each rejected it, then it would've been understandable not to have them reform. But still don't trap them in stone because like I said, Tartarus seems to be much more humane and will still have the same effect on Equestria.
And Cozy Glow is a smart filly, yes, but she's still just a child. It's entirely possible that she has been deluded into thinking that this is actually the goal in life, and she isn't supposed to listen to the Mane 6 because they're only purpose is to prevent her from achieving her goals instead of try to help her.
It sounds like such an easy thing to just say sorry at the end, but with basically all of Equestria staring them down, Cozy and Tirek were frozen in fear. Chrysalis was the only one who was adamant on staying on her path, but Cozy and Tirek were speechless. And when the cupcake landed on them, each of them were completely shocked on what was going on around them. It happens in real life too when someone isn't given enough time to understand what's happening, and the trio didn't know what was going on until after the spell.
And while at the beginning, Starlight may not have known what she was doing, at the end, she clearly had a firm grasp. Twilight told her that every reality she was in was worse than the last, and Starlight clearly saw what she was doing, but she still insisted on it. She directly saw that doing what she was doing would've destroyed Equestria and all life on it, but she still attempted to fulfill her plans. That's even worse than the trio.
You also say that fiction had deluded people into thinking that revenge makes a hero as bad as the villain. Now, light-hearted revenge like dumping water on a bully isn't evil, but what the "heroes" of Equestria did to the villains is literally the worst thing imaginable that can happen to the villains. There was a clear sign that the trio was powerless and defeated, and the villains could have been properly sent to Tartarus if the heroes really weren't willing to give them a chance, but instead, they sadistically smiled as they subjected them to an eternity of endless torment. Discord even begged to join in on the slaughter. That's not what heroes are supposed to do, and this ending is trying to normalize heroes acting like villains, and it seems to be working.
Lastly, it's completely a theory that Discord is the only one who is conscious in stone. He said that being turned to stone doesn't stop him from hearing everything, and that's the confirmation we have that stone imprisonment doesn't stop you from being conscious. And with how vengeful the princesses and Discord were, it is clear that they would have wanted the trio to feel every bit of torture to get off their sadistic pleasure, even on a child. I don't see how this isn't universally seen as horrible.
@Shadow Spector it comes down to differing morals doing cruel things to cruel people is seen as okay for many, yeh its not really heroic but it usually has a feeling of 'oh they had it coming'. The writers made sure to portray the villains as being very evil by having them do things like try to kill the mane 6, the writers underestimated how much some audience members sympathy for them in frenemies would overright all the horrible shit they do in the finale. They also didnt account for discord being made out to be a monster instead of the very misguided flawed but ultimately good/well intentioned friend he was portrayed as. With the villains made out to be almost if not innocent victims.
0 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD Yeah the writers made the trio redeemable in Frenemies but tried to toss everything out the window in the finale just so fans would try to be angry at them and support the princesses. But the trio is so extraordinarily likable in the previous episodes that it lingers in the finale, causing fans to still care for them. I guess the writers didn't think through their decisions.
0 likes@Shadow Spector The possibility of being redeemable is fine, plenty of characters have shown to be that in fiction even villains but ultimately become monsters or bigger monsters then before and being dealt or suffering some kind of fate in story if theyve gone too far despite earlier seeming redeemable qualities.
2 likesAlso i do found the mean 3 likeable but
as good villains and nothing more besides headcanon and theories of making them out to be better as creatures than they are shown in canon. Either way good discussion.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD If you'd like to end it there, I'm unopposed to that, but my main thesis is that it is possible for them to be redeemed if they had help, but if they end up not choosing that route, then they should've been treated more humanely.
0 likesThank you for being respectful in this discussion. It is very appreciated.
See thereโs always a reason for villains
1 likeI think starlight glimmer could help him as well look at her past she wanted to control other pony,s and have power but then realized friend ship is the true power to happiness
0 likesthis is like an actual my little pony episode i mean the conclusion is awesome
0 likesThis is my opinion about who should reform Tirek.
0 likesDiscord
They worked together in the past. Due to this, theyโve had a small history. I mean I agree that diamond tiara should be there too since she also has a connection that you proved in this video. And according to someone: โgalaxy star 124โ Tempest is a possibility.
Yeah, it doesnโt make that much sense but itโs my opinion and idea.
"And pressures Pacifi....Diamond tiara"
0 likesthis was funny to watch and when they said that i was wondering what Pacifica pony look would be
Maybe Tirek can be good by draining bad and evil pony magic to keep him alive and stuff
0 likesI think that was the parthet way to reforom them all so I give you a big ๐s up good job
0 likesCMC: That was a pony we helped!
0 likesTwilight:Diamond Tiara in honor of reforming three of Equestria's biggest threats I crown you as,The Princess of Reformation!
Silverspoon: That's my BFF right there,Princess Diamond Tiara!
Chrysallis,Cozy Glow,and Tirek: We are so proud of our mentor!
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0 likesDiamond Tiara: The Official Villain Reformer of Equestria
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D I A M O N D T I A R A, M Y F R I E N D
4 likesFluttershy got nothing on her
3 likesAgreed
0 likesIf Nightmare Moon was still full of power, who would reform her?
0 likesThe son of King Vorak could possibly be reformed and show that there is something better than what his father wants of him.
0 likesLmao imagine being named Spoiled
4 likesEdit: OR FILTHY! like those are their first names hahaha their parents took one look at them and named them spolied and filthy ๐
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Lol no wonder there big meanies
0 likesof the final 3 villains, Tirek is the ONLY ONE who has any chance of reforming
0 likesNobody:
171 likesSawtooth Waves: DiAmOnD TiArA
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1 likeliterally, I was like "diamond tiara lmao jk" and then he said it and I choked XD
0 likesThe only answer is diamond tiara princess of reforming villains.
1 likeAlso Sawtooth: unstoppable laughter
1 likeI would say it would be better to bring Twilight form Equestria Girls(from Crystal Prep not Equestria twilight) because she also had someone to make proud and pressure by that same person (principal of CP) and sucked power and magic from people.
0 likesI bet if this was an actual mlp episode they'd do the back thing lol.
0 likesSunset Shimmer would be another option in place of Diamond Tiara in the case of Tirek.
0 likesIts so nice to have mlp fans that are just like me :D
0 likesVillain: being a villain
0 likesDiamond tiara: allow me to introduce myself
Diamond Tiara:
2 likesThe Queen of Reformation-
The only question is would the series continue on this very thing where they do break out of the stone prison and try this
0 likesI hope all the villons turn good awsome keep it up
0 likesThe answer for the rib cage and back
55 likesCentaurs have 2 hearts, one smaller one in the human half and a larger in the horse half, hence the two rib cages
Some info for anyone who wants to read XD
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Does that mean they digest their food twice. So they digest poop. Ewww
6 likesThe Stitch Man Not quite XD though I never looked at it that way before,
2 likesThey also have two stomachs, each used for digesting different types of food, though how that works fully Iโm unsure XD
Thanks for the clarification ๐.
1 likeThe Stitch Man Your Welcome ^~^
0 likesMistyRose Thatโs weird
1 likeMistyRose Well cows have four stomachs so maybe it works like that
1 likeMoonlight Eclipse Itโs a good theory ^~^ thank you
0 likesHe really should have been reformed because he and scorpan can make amends and they can leave their father behind
0 likesMaybe the key to to reform these villains may be diamond tiara I mean literally or maybe the main six can like deal with each villain at a time so then don't be like total chaos I mean for the one for cozy glow they could have used like I don't know I forgot which character blade one of the characters is kind of like crazy glow but they could have used that character I forgot LOL
0 likesI picture all the reformed and ponies set on the right path all in a room when Twilight choices Diamond Tiara all just flipping out in there own ways.
0 likesLuna:Well I never!
Starlight: Hey! That future me lied!
Trixie: I wanted to tug on his nose ring
Sunset: I WILL BECOME CANON AGAIN
Iron Will: Awww i wanted to test my bench
Hmm...I think Discord is the key of reforming Tirek instead of Diamond Tiara because Tirek and Dicsord did help for each other in the past weren't they?
0 likesWhy did I think the title said "Reforming Shrek??"
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Shrek can never be reformed.
61 likesI think it's time to stop watching Roundtrip for some time...
25 likesI also read it as Shrek at the first time
@Casey Portnell I didn't see who made the video until i clicked it
8 likeslol
3 likesPffffft
3 likesxD No way
3 likesYou don't reform Shrek, he reforms you.
18 likesShrek will reform you
13 likesFrom the inside out
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA
3 likesWait a sec I didn't realize this would get this many likes ๐๐
2 likesSomebody once told me the world is gonna roll me, I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
6 likeslol
2 likes@Shadow Spector I think shrek is already reformed.
3 likesGarvey Neal: it's all ogre now.
2 likesSame ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
2 likesShrek can be reformed by
6 likesOnions
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee. LOL
2 likesWell he did say he saw a "rainbow pony".
3 likesA Random Person this is hilarious ๐
2 likesโGet out of my swamp!โ-Shrek
2 likesLol
1 like@Kaori Donkey: They smell?
1 likeShrek: Yes--NO!
I NEARLY SPAT OUT MY SODA AT READING THIS COMMENT OH GOD XD
2 likes@AngieTheEmo lmao ๐ I'm proud you got this reaction ngl
2 likes@A Random Person same im glad i didnt i already had water come out of my nose from laughing i do not wanna know what soda feels like coming out of my nose XD
1 likeChrysalis: a Diffrent Ponymon (pokemon + Ponys/ Changelings)
1 likeCozy Glow and Tirek: I CHOOSE YOU DIAMOND TIARRA
Sawtooth Waves: *Gives them a Whole Team of Diamond Tiarra while only giving Crysalis Diffrent Changelings Reformed*
You have a point...
0 likesHow does 2 ribcages and 2 backs work?
We need a why Teriek has two rib cages theory.
0 likesSomeone just give Diamond Tiara wings and a horn at this point
0 likesKey to reforming him is...
29 likesGoNnA sUpRiSe YoU
DiAmOnD tIaRa
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Yep
1 likeI think starligh should change tirek
1 likeBecause starlight wanted magic to
So she took all the cutie marks so she can be powerfull
Awesome and cool!
0 likesI feel so relatable to tirek
0 likesI think starlight should reform tirek and now try to figure out why i think starlight should reform tirek, dont get me wrong, Diamond tiara is a good opinion too but dont you think that tirek would need two with the same problem! But thats my opinion meaby im wrong od meaby theres a BIG gap to fill in
1 likeWhen is this going to be the official redemption arc for these three?
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yeah.. not in the show that's for sure :( maybe in the comics? that'd be nice
58 likes@Sawtooth Waves or maybe in Pony life, but I would rather see it in the comics if it did happen. Plus that show is not really canon and I see the comics being more canon to G4.
9 likesEdit: grammar
@SophieTheAiredale pony life is a totally different part of g4 and has its own canon separate from FiM but the comics are canon to FiM.
8 likesSawtooth Waves that is actually a good idea
4 likes@Sawtooth Waves Fanfic writers to your keyboards!
7 likes@SonicFan4Life 007 Side note; Only the Season 10 comics are canon, the Friends Forever Issues aren't canon, alongside the villain backstories and their arc to becoming villains, etc.
2 likes@WadeyHyena16 they're all canon. Hasbro approved it.
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves I love to see their official reformation in the comic, like Fluttershy said in Daring Doubt:"Everyone deserve kindness." Also, great job for finding the key to reform the trio.
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves hi!!!๐
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves make a whole movie about reforming them EEEKEKKKEKEKEKEKEKEK
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves Roleplay solves everything! (I'm not cringey I swear)
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves Could have thought of Stygian or Luna
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves it would be a good idea if they made a secondary show for MLP friendship is magic, so they can show what happened after everything
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves I read the comics, Maybe ill see your reference in there, Also I made a comment about reforming king sombra. it would mean the world to me if you read it and considered, if not improve on my theory ๐
1 like@SophieTheAiredale Except from Sombra and the Dazzlings' comic stories. Non-canon.
0 likes@KR Wizard Not everyone deserves kindness like most villains.
0 likes@SonicFan4Life 007 Except Sombra and the Dazzlings' comic stories. Non-canon.
0 likesHow did you become a good guy?
0 likesCozy Glow: Diamond Tiara
Tirek: Diamond Tiara
i was actually thinking of prince luna... she wanted power as midnight moon, and wanted to live up to celestia, and as they were both royalty they could work (?)
0 likescelestia and luna werent born alicorns but star swirl used some kind of spell to make them earth, winged unicorn and unicorn to make a alicorn and the experiement was done long ago
0 likesMe: well obviously itโs stidgian I mean he looked up to the pillars and wanted power to fight along side them
1 likeSawtooth: diamond tiaraโฆ
Also starlight glimmer can also help tirek... cause she was stealing cutie marks from a village.. just like tirek he was trying to steal magic oH AnD aLsO sunset shimmer cause she wanted the crown... BINGO
1 likebest way to reform the villains;
0 likesforce them to watch this guys videos
Heck ! throw in Discord ร la : "When we teamed up and you betrayed me you gained more power for yourself, but my friends in turn provided ME with enough POWAH to defeat you ! Again, and again, and again..."
16 likesDiamond Tiara be pulling some "Talk No Jutsu"; Naruto style.
2 likesWow I am generally amazed at Sawtooth! He managed to find out the keys to Reform three of Equestria's dangerous villians! He found the keys to Reform Chrysalis and Cozy Glow and now Tirek! Great Job Sawtooth Waves you are an amazing Changeling and I will definitely do my best to support your channel! Also I hope you have an amazing day! p.s my b-day is on the 31st of this month! :3 Love your videos! Please keep making them! โค๏ธ
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My birthday's on the same day too!
1 like@SofฤฑyafromtheSevens oh cool
1 likeThe person who can help Tirek is... Diamond Tiara.
0 likesMe, after a second of processing: I. YEAH NO YOU'RE SPOT ON. YEAH.
Diamond Tiara: I want something you donโt have, FRIENDS
0 likesTwilight may be the Queen of friendship but Diamond Tiara is the Queen of roasts ๐
Scorpan can also help , he would relate to terek and find him a new path
0 likesWhen chrysalis gets reformed she looks like a princess pony that loves being kind like fluttershy
0 likesI LOVE when u start laughing like CRAZY While u try explain Y Diamond Tira !
49 likesWhy does Tirek remind me of Greek Mythology?
0 likesOnly me?
No?
Yes?
His laugh was adorable~
0 likes(I know this is late but) Maybe Sunset Shimmer could also help with reforming Tirek? Or a non-pony since he looks down on them.
0 likesDiamond tiara is not the best example if you're looking for pride it's the dragons and when you're looking for Father's approval it's princess or Queen Amber
0 likesTirek wants his honour from his dad, hmmmm Iโm having a serious dรฉjร vu...
14 likesIf thereโs any Avatar: the last airbender fans out there, pls like to show you understand
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yea
0 likesThe new show:My little pony roasting is magic๐๐
0 likesAlso maybe tirek grows by getting friendship once he's reformed to like how the changelings share love now
Tirek having daddy issues gives me HUGE Hordak vibes
0 likesOne ribcage for the heart, the other for the lungs. Simple!
0 likesThen I have a question for you: what about Sombra? (Does anyone really think that he will stay dead?)
0 likesWow Diamond tiara is just the reformation Queen
0 likes2:56 " In that moment, Diamond Tiara realized 2 fundamental truths at the exact same time "
0 likesHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA Discord really roasted Tirek there. Discord, Fluttershy, Pinkie and Diamond Tiara really is in that I roast people around me casually club.
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Lol
0 likesIf the storm king was glued back together or never got destroyed how would u reform the storm king
1 likeIf he has twp ribcages, doesn't that mean he has two hearts, very ironic becoz he has no heart...
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I think you are correct...LOL
3 likesGaliema Coe And two pairs of lungs.
5 likesDid someone say... two... hearts?
1 likewhovian entered the chat
Yes, a centaur would have two hearts. A large horse-like heart in their main body and a smaller heart for the upper torso. This is because it's rather difficult for the body to pump blood up, thus to provide enough blood to the upper body and brain a secondary heart would be needed. They can survive with just the one large heart but that would come with major complications.
2 likesHowever, only one pair of lungs would be needed. A frikkin big pair of lungs, not too hard since horses already have rather large lung size, but one pair all the same. Unlike blood, air is easy to transport up or down. It would have longer to travel but that isn't an issue for a giraffe so i doubt it'd be an issue for a centaur.
This has been your medical fact of the day
OOOOIOHHH
0 likesTriek is the breathing master that is why he has to rib cages!
1 likeokay, but, the implication that there is a centaur kingdom full of very, very powerful creatures concerns me
0 likesI was expecting the one person who would guide him would be scorpan. If weโre to assume heโs still alive.
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Well he might I mean if tirek is still alive
0 likesTbh just throw diamond tiara into a room with tirek for 1 day or so and heโll be reformed 50%
0 likesCause uhm we all saw how annoyed tirek got from pinkie and agreed immediately in the ep where cozy tried to take all magic!
Dis be like:
Twilight : Iโm the on-
Starlight : Iโm the-
Flutter shy : Iโm th-
diamond tiara: GET OUT OF THE WAAAAAYYYYY-
So yesterday, I watched this for the first time and thought Luna but... with all this theorizing I now want this to be a short film..
17 likesSAWTOOTH MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Hold on let me think... thinks I'll be damd. With that pride alone, Tirek is just senator version of Vegeta from Dragon Ball. It makes perfect sens.
0 likesHmmm, that was pretty neat. Although I think Scorpan is now the king of his homeland :), in my headcannon
0 likesDiamond tiara: * finnaly fixes her own problems *
0 likesSawtooth: oh you got that done? Ok well now you need to help another messed up kid and a literal demon ๐
You should do reforming Sombra maybe for the next one just an idea
0 likesโI believe the key to reform him is... GoNNA SURPRISE YOuโ
57 likesI put the cc setting and Tirek is apparently Tyrek, Turek, and finally T-Rex lol
1 likeOk diamond tiara reforming tirek is a nice thought and it definitely has potential but you really think a literal demon is going to listen to a child i don't think so if you ask me I think a better candent is and hear me out now ....
1 likeHIS BROTHER SCORPAN!!!!!
and here's why
When tirek first came to conqucr
Equestria his brother came to and had the same intentions but unlike tirek he found friendship and tried to help his brother stray away from evil but failed but he can always try again and I think like chrisalycs (sorry if I spelled it incorrectly)
Tirek need a hit from home and if not his brother then maybe his father should try to help him I mean like discord said he did everything he did because of his dad
It just makes more sense to me that it should be someone close to tirek instead of a random pony child
But that's my opinion on the matter
So chrysalis looked different after she reformed does tirek? I mean after he knows about family,friendship and everything people who did not see that tirek became good will think he's bad wth his dark colors or is that to weird
0 likesTBH Discord is the perfect person for him beacuse he also did the same thing and make a huge mess in Ponyvile, and notice the magic of friendship is more powerfull.
0 likesMe: Diamond Tiara? Hm but sheโs alrea-
48 likesSW: Diamond Tiara
Me: oh never mind
I kind of wish the villains won not counting the alternative universes
0 likesone thing if he finds those villans close and see that they had left that path he would feel betrayed dont u think?
0 likesThrow Diamond Tiara and a room make all the villains be good again
1 likei still wonder what cozy parents are thinking
1 likeI would like to see Scorpan helping Tirec to see what are pros of becoming good :3
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that would definitely be amazing!!
5 likes@Sawtooth Waves I guess geting him to come to Equestria would make for an episode itself (ong trip far away in looking for old powerfull creature) ... or Fluttershy could just ask Discord to "puff" him right next to them
0 likesSure, diamond tiara makes sense but I mean looking at his motivation, zuko is a better fit
0 likes2:32 Here in Brazil, both of then have the Same voice actress
2 likesAlso donโt throw diamond tiara in the room of villains and donโt give her an hour the video that you made is Right dementia is the key to reforming Lord Tirek just like with Cozy Glow.
0 likesSawtooth are you trying to convince fanfic writers to write this out? Because of so it's working.
0 likesTHE TRILOGY HAS ENDED
76 likes0:17 0:18 I always Think this song sounds scary. Like a Deep Dark Well. I had read the famous five by Enid Blyton. A deep button Well made me scared. And looking into the Black glowing eyes of evilness is creepy too. But I love Tirek, so I am not so scared.
0 likesYeah And I know sheโs not in MLP, but Pacifica Northwest also has been through what Tirek and Diamond Tiara went through. Her abusive parents had very hollow expectations for her and just like Diamond Tiaraโs mom, Pacificaโs parents, mostly her father, only cared about status, wealth and power. They donโt care about their daughter Pacifica and they donโt care whatโs best for her. But then after Dipper helps her see the error of her ways, she has a change of heart and chooses her own path to follow, and not the path her snobbish nasty parents chose for her.
0 likesYeah I agree with this theory but I think at first he wonโt agree just like when Flutter Shy was assigned to reform Discord and Discord kinda created a catastrophe
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Only just found this and saw the others and No. The other two sure those will work but Tirek is no.
0 likesEven using what bonds he had with Cozy and Chrys won't work because if his own BROTHER wasn't enough to convince him then those two have even less of a chance his mind they'd be chalked up as being weak and would see it as a challenge to fight against the desire of friendship.
Tirek isn't beyond reforming but to do so would actually require one simple thing... Don't Reform Him...... Reform the father. If you want there to be a change in such a prideful being such as Tirek you need to go after the source aka track down his father and convince him of a different path and show the father what happened with the Brother. Give Tirek's motivations to go down a different path.
I bet Tirac is Gonna Be One of the Harder Villains to Reform
0 likesWould you please make a video on the real reason behind night mare moon .See the theory goes like this
0 likesIf you remember the tale of the 2sisters was after Luna was banished to the moon celestia took in charge of both sun and moon if you think about it how did celestia get the power to reach the moon? although there are 2 explanations
Explanation number 1- after Luna was banished to the moon celestia use the elements of harmony to gain the power of raising the moon too
Explanation number 2 - celestia had the ability to raise the moon long before Luna was banished. Luna might have gotten to know that celestia had this power and become jealous and felt like a spare . celestia would have probably give in that position the Luna for raising the moon because she was her sister. this explains a lot and makes a lot more sense for Luna to become jealous of celestia and turn into a nightmare moon
I told you about this theory invite of you videos of yours. If you think me during make sense then please make a video about it
People do realise that chrysalis is the only one that actually reformed
0 likesMy opinion is to reform TREC is starlight why well because she wanted lots of power too! And she can explain to Trec that power is not always the answer. Or trixie
0 likesWasnโt this guy a villain in the og MLP?
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@ClareLaBelleRose he is still far more dangerous in G4, I'f anything he is the only one who can overpower Discord and Cosmos without outside help.
0 likesIdk why but i think its odd that in the book terec is stronger than he is now so where did that power go ?
0 likesImagine this. Celestia: it is time for a new princess.
0 likesStarlight: I'm ready.
Celestia: not you, her points at Diamond Tiara
Diamond Tiara: WHAT?
Starlight: what is she the princess of then?
Celestia: the princess of reforming and being relatable.
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wonder if tirek will be in g5?
0 likesWhy didnโt Tirek take discord magic in the last battle. But before he did. I always Wonder why.
0 likesMe thinking all week that it was going to be Scorpan to help reform him: ๐
41 likesSW: Diamond Tiara
Me now: ๐คฏ
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Scorpan should help. I think no one really knows where he is though
3 likesFunGirl: he might be dead. It's been a thousand years and Tartarus probably stopped Tirek's aging.
2 likesI think Scorpan is younger, according to the comic about Tirek. https://youtu.be/MdzUe4842Xo
1 likeIf tirek had two rib cages, then doesn't he have two hearts?
0 likesHire diamond tiara as a villain reformer and problem solved
0 likesWhy is Tirek reminding me of Zuko?
1 like"How does that work?"
0 likesMe: Uuuhhh... Sawtooth, you do realize where Tirek is right?
Sawtooth: "Pacif- Diamond tiara."
0 likesMe: G R A V I T Y . F A L L S . T H E M E . I T E N S I F I E S
To be very honest I was thinking about human twilight, and my explanation is the friendship games, no further explanation.
0 likesYou know what...
0 likesprincess twilight sparkle should give the villains to sawtooth to reform
lol
Sorry, but reformed Chrysalis is one of the most adorable things ever saw.
0 likesGood now diamond Tiara is the princess of reforming
63 likesJust...
GOOD
Edit:
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mmmmm thanks for the likes?
What if the mane 6 stop a villain then tirek can consume the magic and use it for good?
0 likesI can't believe I forgot the time diamond tiara absolutely roasted and toasted her mom
0 likesI have a question are the storm king and T-reck Brothers and if so why don't we see them together because I think their brothers because they look exactly the same except Iraq has more than one set of legs and if so they are brothers then why don't we see them causing the evil plot together and also they probably might be brothers because they have the same goal set they both want to really question and turn it into ruin if they were brothers then how would the main six defeat them
0 likesI think the reformed chrysalis is cooler than the evil chrysalis
0 likesI thought Sunset shimmer would be the one though- she has been through the same thing and she had to escape to a different world then hers to reform in there
0 likesI love it when you laughed like that
0 likesVillain:*Isnโt reformed*
0 likesDiamond Tiara:Iโm on my way
But what if tireks dad never cared about power, it might just be me but if you think about it he also might be misinterpreting what his dads priorities were
0 likesBad standing house? Bang it with a hammer!
0 likesYour pets house is not standing? Bang it with a hammer!
YOU ARE REFORMING VILLAINS? BANG IT WITH A DIAMOND TIARA!
I think if there was another key to tirek itโd probably be Scorpan (his brother
0 likesI wish the creator or the director of mlp will see this then maka a new season of mlp lr maybe a movie.
0 likesWe got some noice Greek mythology going on here-
1 like-Tartarus
-centaur
Whatโs next, satyrs?
I feel like I can relate to Tierek in a way. I feel like he got scared to love after thinking he wasn't good enough for his family. I was similar to this after I came out as transgender to my dad. He doesn't accept me and I went into a mindset that if I wasn't good enough for my family, I wasn't good enough for anyone else so I shut myself away out of fear of loving
5 likesFriendship is powerful to be nice
0 likesAgain, this is assuming he even WANTS to change. Cuz while we can speculate about this all we want? Only terik can decide. Every person in existance could want to help you but unless you WANT help & WANT to change? You won't. Some people won't change Even when their life is on the line.
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This comment is very true! However, given the events of Frenemies, I believe Diamond Tiara with the aid of Cozy Glow and Chrysalis could make Lord Tirek want to reform.
0 likesTirek and cozy glow: i will never be reformed!
0 likesDiamond Tiara: im about to end these two villains career
Every Single Villain: I fear no man
0 likesEvery Single Villain: But that thing...
Diamond Tiara
Every Single Villain: It scares me...
"The person who can reform tirek is" "diamond tiara yes again!" Me - "um hello sunset shimmer? Starlight glimmer? Trixie? Princess Luna? Their are so many others and you pick Diamond Tiara? Im suing (not)
20 likesnext video: reforming every villain ever
0 likesโso they key to reforming these villains are...โ
diamond tiara!
In my head cannon, Diamond Tiara became the new Mayor of Ponyvill
0 likesVillain: exists
0 likesDiamond Tiara:
Relatable.
Diamond tiara is the key for everything world hunger,become good and more
0 likesPair him up with Zuko!
0 likesHi my name is Zeiah and I really like your videos you should make more by the way I love your songs my favorite was A new pair of wings song.
1 likeWouldn't Tirek just start taking magic again??
0 likesDiamond Tiara: The princess of reformance.
0 likesOh I thought you were going to say Luna because when she turned into nightmare moon
23 likesAnd he was in Tartarus and she was stuck in the moon
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I would have put money on it being Luna
0 likesi bet twilight made some rehabilitation center for former villains, or even sent those villains to her school since twilight technically made the school for kids and adults
1 likeYeah, let's pair up a Mean girls character with a literal demon
0 likesThere's one more person who would understand his struggle perfectly"
0 likesMe:ah yes dis-
โDiamond Taria
Oml sawtooth saying "spoil rich pressuring paci- Diamond tira." It makes me giggle because pacifica's dad pressured her into being perfect.
0 likesI didnโt even think this was possible.
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I keep reloading this and the likes are bursting.
0 likesI have never seen someone talk so deeply about mlp
0 likesDiamond is the pony of reforming-
1 likebackground music: sad and holy music
0 likessawtooth: itโs on them to accept you
me: wipes fake tears
sawtooth OUT OF NO WHERE:
we got both your backs๐
Diamond tiara is a life saver
0 likes2:31
65 likes"...And pressures Pacifi... Diamond Tiara..."
Nice๐
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Northwest
1 likeGravity pony
1 likeYou can be a therapist for pony and every creature
0 likesDiamond tiara: the princess of relatability
0 likesWhen you think it's going to be Discord finally and you get disproven again
0 likesstep 1 on how to reform a villain say: I used to fell the same way, then found a solution
0 likesand that is how to reform a villain
After rewaching the season 4 finale I wondered if discord came from the same "Distant land" Tirek and Scorpan came from? When discord confronted Tirek, Tirek seemed to be familiar with Discord and even a little freindly like they were childhood friends.
7 likesDiamond Tiara might aswell just be the new ruler of Equestria like screw Twilight.
0 likesTirek sounds like Zuko with out Uncle Iroh ngl
0 likesOk, ok, you have impressed me by reforming are weakest villan but how do u assume we reform one of are strongest villains Sombra?
0 likesIf he needs chrysalis to be reformed then I don't want him to be. (See my comment on the chrysalis reforming video for a little more context) there's got to be a better way
0 likes3:34 How do we know Vorak is like Spoiled Rich,
5 likesFor all we know he could be like Celestia but Tirek misunderstood his message.
Vorak: Friendship Is Magic so you work with other people to gain more power,
Tirek: YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M GONNA SUCK THE POWER OF EVERY CREATURE IN EQUESTRIA,
Vorak: No, No, that's not what I meant-
Tirek: I'll make you proud of me, Dad.
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Actually, if you read the comic where Vorak came from, he was actually a pretty reasonable guy who wanted peace with Equestria and was distrustful of Tirek because Tirek was a power-hungry jerk who trained to steal magic behind his father's back in order to get so powerful that Vorak couldn't tell him what to do anymore.
0 likes@Flufux at least I'm NOT the only one who saw the comic!
0 likesSawtooth: And The Key to reforming Tirek is....
0 likesMe: Please don't say diamond Tiara, please don't say diamond Tiara
Sawtooth: Diamond Tiara!!
Me: ...
Diamond should honestly just become a therapist XD
0 likes"Villains aren't evil, just broken..."
0 likesFor as long as I can recall Dr Whooves has always been a alicorn teer member
0 likesSome people like Sebastian known as pounds in the shell such as princess some more my favorite but she was an amount of corn
0 likesWho could reform Sombra? (Minus the comics)
0 likesSeriously. Sawtooth. You could use others. Discord could persuade tirek.
0 likesDiamond tiara's other talent. Reforming villans XD
0 likes(No sir, first Cozy Glow and now Tirek. She needs an other cutiemark for this)
This is irrelevant to this particular video, but in a previous video you tried to describe which elements of harmony of the student 6 would represent. You tried to match the, up to the same qualities as the mane 6, but whose to say that they would represent the same qualities as the mane 6? Think of the pillars, the represented the elements of harmony, but not for the same reasons the mane 6 do. Here what I think m the student 6 would represent.
3 likesYona: Trust
Silver Stream: Gratitude/Joy
Ocellus: Gentleness
Sandbar: Faith
Smolder: Honour/Acceptance/Protective?
Gallus: Honour/ Courage
I hope you understand my point!
Awsome keep it up
0 likesDiamond tiara would probably get Obliterated in a instant
0 likesDonโt spend diamond on hoes.
0 likesSpend them on villains
Imagine being named spoiled ๐คฃ
0 likesSawtooth: I think the key to reforming tirek is....
0 likesMe: Uhmmm.......
Sawtooth: Diamond Tiara
Me: What the mutherpucker
I thought it was Stralight not Diamond Tiara ๐
0 likesSawtooth even if he does reform king vorak still wouldn't be proud of him.
0 likesCan you reform King Sombra?
1 likeAs much as i want to see villains reformed I realize that it can't be possible, still like to see these kinds of videos though.
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Yeah, especially since they made it clear that they hate friendship and don't wanna change ever.
0 likesNow I want to see tirek sing light of your cutie mark and pony I wanna be
0 likesWhat about Luna? she was overshadowed by her sister then she bacame nightmaremoon. Is there a way Luna can reform Tirek?
0 likesAnd
1 likeSawtooth be like
Frenemies
If all three villain can reform including Discord what about King Sombra is there a way to reform him
0 likes2:31
29 likesโAnd pressures Pacifi- Diamond Tiara.โ
Yes XD
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How are you so far alradyyyyy AAA i'm only at 00:47
2 likes@Darkkittenxox idk I was early I guess qwq
0 likes2015 was a good year
0 likesJust like the other 2 I say it's the perfect way
0 likeswait, if tirek has two ribcages and two backs does he have two stomachs?
0 likesI think he needs a second chance and I try to pretend to be twilight's sister
0 likesDUDE! Dude, hear me out, i want that you, yes you, could provide theory about reforming of EG villains, Dazzlings, i mean, their basic motivation for their evil is hunger, not for power, but like changelings, but instead of love its negative feelings, if not that, maybe they could change, now most awful thing is, that these can die from hunger, because their necklaces is broken and its actually sad in my opinion, anyway, i want to know, do you have a solution for their reforming? If no, oh well, nice to see at least a small hope for former Legion of Doom.
0 likesI LOVE THIS
0 likesMy theory who controls the stars:
0 likesTwilight is the princess of friendship but something is missing Cadence controls the crystal heart Celestia controls the sun Luna the moon everyone controls something but Twilight doesn't let's look at her cutie mark in the mlp it means magic but in our world it looks like a star so let's see the results yes Twilight is destent to control the stars
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no ep said a pony controlling the stars bruh =~=
0 likesSo wouldnโt his brother try to reform him
1 likeI say we bring back King Sombrero
1 likeAt this point forget using friendship lazes, just throw diamond tiara at all the problems
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1000! Likes
0 likesI'm sorry but his laugh is so adorable, I'm soft-
0 likesDo you think you could do more villain transformation to friendship
0 likesI WAS WAITING FOR THE ๐ TO REFORM TIREK
0 likesDiamond Tiara, again ๐
what if king Vorak just favored Tirek's brother? wasnt against friendship or any of that, just had a favorite kid
0 likesIdk why I felt like tirek is the evil black horse that want to rule the harmony son (I forgot the name)
1 likeSo weโre not gonna have tireks brother talk to him
1 likeNow that the show is ended....maybe they can just let fans write the next season >:D
0 likesWho gets Horde-Prime and Hordak vibes from Tirek and King Vorak
0 likesRainbow of Darkness (G1): The Magic of Friendship. Ah! Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary.
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Rainbow of Light: Ah crap, here we go again.
3 likesWas that a reference from Kung fu panda movie?
1 likeThe writers of MLP: โwrite that down,write that down!!โ
0 likesTo be honest I think stickeing well be good for ether one or starlight glimmer
0 likesI think maybe discord could help TREC he may not have that same relatable Ness that diamond tiara has but he could ask him what did it feel like to have friendship do you have been friends before but he turned his back on him he would see how much fun and how much you cared for him Iโm not even though he turned his back he still appreciates the friendship that he had I still agree that the other two can help but I also think discord could help also saying that he has won a lot of power but when Fluttershy turned her back on him he only wanted that friendship again and I didnโt care if he had to be nice he just wanted his friendship and he turned good and that youโre a good turn good too because friendship isnโt a bad thing but of course thatโs my suggestion I still think them in Deara could do it but discord
0 likesGreat now I want to write a fanfic and post it on reddit
0 likesTirek you're great
0 likesmake discord do all the friendshipy stuff and BOOM done... unless he makes them even more evil... but anyways...
0 likesSo...
0 likesDiamond tiara is the solution to all my problems?
I think diamond tiara should be a unicorn and her mom and her dad also i think the crown cutie mark of diamond tiara means that shes the princess of...
0 likesREFORMING VILLIANS!!!!!!!
I haven't watched the video yet, but let me guess, this time Scorpan helps Tirek reform? With the same friendship vs tyrrany thing
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Oof. Just oof.
0 likesYouโre in for a surprise...
2 likesIm waiting for โreforming sombraโ
1 likeI think it is obvious to see that Someoneโs Pony Waifu is Diamond Tiara (and their name is; Sawtooth)
0 likesYou sure Tirek Won't just squash Diamond Tiara
0 likesDiamond Tiara: Best Girl Confirmed
0 likesWouldn't the villains live in the pony-human world?? And what about the other creatures like dragons, griffin's, and yaks?
5 likesI like it ๐
0 likesDiamond tiara is the new princess of friendship xD
0 likesBUT BUT BUT!!!!! In the comics Tirek is not taking power bc his dad has high exspetations like Diamond Tiara's mom does but bc he wants to have all that power and to be worthy. He is just hungry for power
0 likesI have an idea for the video collab if u want to do it, my background is I am queen chrystaliis and king sombra son and I have been in pony vile for a while now. I want to make friends and started my friendship ways but I need to control the darkness inside. I want to talk to king thorax but he wasnโt around but you were around the corner so u change into his form and help me thus meeting ur true form at an later time so what do u think @ Sawooth Waves?
0 likesNext Diamond Tiara will go back in time to reform herself
3 likesJust waiting for Tirek to become King Tirek....
0 likesJeez- with 2 backs youโd think Tirek would have better posture
0 likes2:43 diamond tiara being a S A V A G E
0 likesDiamond Tiara: Princess of Therapy
0 likesSo umm you know in the episode โThe Last Problemโ when they sang the song part, Rainbow Dash is already the leader or you could say the captain of the Wonderbolts. I just couldnโt help but notice that she seemed a lot slower while she was flying with the new Wonderbolts team. Those that mean sheโs not the fastest pony in Equestria?
7 likesIโm really curious to know if she can still do a Sonic Rainboom!
Anyways great video!
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No I think she become slower because she got older, you can see the wrinkles under her eyes meaning she might be an elderly pony
3 likesItโs possible that Rainbow was just intentionally flying slower.
2 likesTireck is just hungry and just wants power to be honest
0 likesThe most powerful monster in lord trek
0 likesYou: how Tirek can be reformed
0 likesSubtitles: how T-REX can be reformed
Request
0 likesReforming grogar
Reforming sombra
Reforming sludge the dragon
You should do a video on this topic, "Can pegasus ponies become alicorns?"
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yes they can! it happened to cozy glow
7 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hm yeah I guess so, but like becoming a princess to rule over land, just like Twilight and the other ones. I think cozy glow used a different way to get a horn because clearly, she is not a princess.
3 likesForgive me if Iโm wrong but, wasnโt Princess Cadence a pegasus?
7 likes@Amaryllis omg your right haha, I guess they can become alicorns ahh
3 likesAnd cadance
1 likeWhat if tirek gets mad and takes all of diamond tiara 's magic before she could finish
0 likesโAnd she pressured Paci-Diamond Tiaraโ
0 likesngl,the one who should have reformed Tirek should have been Scorpan
0 likesIs diamond tiara the real princess of friendship?
0 likesI miss when you used to post every Thursday and say โthis is the brony notion signing off until next wed- Thursdayโ โBROHOOF :)โ
10 likesHim: the key is... diamond Tiara
0 likesMe:.... Y-your joking right?
Him: and if you think im joking im 100% not
Me:I-I wha I have no words
iF tHiS hApEnD:
0 likesdiamond tiara: reforms every villain
(next day)
diamond tiara: shows up
celestia: diamond tiara u are crowned to be the princess of reforming
fOr nOw oN sHe wIlL rEfOrM eVeRy ViLlAiN
1:04 can someone give me the episode for this?
2 likesEven if he does reform king vorak would still think he's not good enough.
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probably true but who knows!
0 likesAt first when you said "one other who bends in tirek's shoes"
3 likesMe at first: STARLIgHt
You: Diamond tiara XD
Me: oh-
Maybe if you bring him into Ponyville and every thing bad he does will be one punish or job
0 likesSo wise ๐
1 like4:39 diamond tiara be looking like a damn balloon XD
0 likesSawtooth: and the person who can reform tirek is-
11 likesMe: Luna?
Sawtooth: Diamond- hahah- Diamond tiara ๐๐๐๐
Tirek is basically zuko wanting to be noticed by his father
0 likesTheory: the geodes in equestria girls are the human worlds elements of harmony.
0 likesTirek, just like Winter from Wings Of Fire
0 likesyes I read the series
please read this sawtooth because i don't think tirek wants to prove his worth or make his father proud because unlike diamond tiara i think tirek hates his father so much stealing all that power would make him stronger than his father possibly strong enough to kill king vorak and free his people from the castle/mines of midnight meaning that is i'm right and king vorak killed his brother scorpan i think the true key to completely reforming tirek is scorpans own son, spike because if spike is scorpans son that would mean that tirek is spike's uncle meaning that 1 spike was well off that he didn't need to learn about dragon culture to know who his father was because just like how luke skywalker saved his father darth vador i think spike can save tirek from doing something worse then what he did 3 times already which means tirek could be the key to showing spike his phelociphy the history if his father's kingdom their traditions and spike could even become a nephew/friendship ambasitor to tirek's home meaning that equestria will have ganged another allie all because spike skyflyer saved his father darth tirek get it anyways please read this sawtooth and make a video of it someday
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Agreed
0 likesAnyone can reformed, not everyone will reform. Becoming good is a choice and while everyone has a choice to do so, not everyone will make that choice. I'm personally glad these MLP villains stayed bad, it's a good way of showing that while everyone can choose to be good, there will always be those that choose to be bad.
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hello there
0 likesbut yes i see your point of view, though i think they could have made an effort.
Oh damn sup Obi-Wan.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves General Waves, you are a theoretical one! And it's unfortunate to think, but some will also choose not to even make that effort.
2 likesI'm glad you see it that way, since while I understand the fans who wanted the villains to reform, I personally do not think Tirek or Chrysalis are capable of reforming.
0 likesI agree. Unfortunately, some do not choose to make the effort to become good, no matter how much you try to guide them in that path.
1 likewe got your backs, tirek.
1 likeWhat happened to Scorpan? Did we even get a chance to see him in the series?
0 likes#diamondtiara being the one who reforms the 2 villains
0 likesLuna wasn't Celestia Shadow that's the perfect person to help through cuz they both been in the dark and but they've seen the light
0 likesTirek's brother would solve the case
0 likesDoes tyrek have two entire chests? Or is one of them just an empty hollow tube and he constantly burps off camera...???
0 likesTirek is the MLP version of Zuko.
0 likesLol after the end of season 10 u know the statue is starting to break but we will never know what happened to these villains, unless they appear in the G5 series, could u make a video about it?
0 likes3:40
16 likes"That's why diamond tiara is the perfect person to demonstrate this"
And I quote "person"
No, I'm not trying be rude qwq
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Oh yeah, she a pony not a person
0 likesAh, I didnโt notice that
0 likesOh I wish these were real episodes
0 likes...Wouldn't Scourpan still be alive? Wouldn't Scourpan himself be the best candidate for this?
0 likesWhat if Cozy accidently-on-perpis called Tirek "dad". Family, get it? look I just really like the concept
0 likesWell Ik that what all 3 of them need is some form of counseling. Talking about their problems can help release tension which Ik all of them are going through
0 likesCANT WE WATCH THE SHOW NORMALLY NOW IM QUESTIONING MYSELF AT MY SLEEP ;-;
23 likes(no hate im jk)
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me too ;-;"
0 likesTirek:Dimond tiara is useless
0 likesDimond tiara:Then steal my magic and Follow me๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
What about Starlight glimmer she had a whole village in her hooves and maybe she could help tirek
0 likesCan you make an episode about zecora and why is she has a cutie mark.
2 likesDimond tiara is a anti villain machine
0 likes"and pressures Pacifi- Diamond Tiara..."
4 likesIโm just confused why his background used to be him chillin in the Star Swirl The Bearded Wing with all da spells Star swirl made in the Canterlot castle
0 likes2:08 aawtooth's laugh ๐๐
0 likesHow do you feel about sombra being reform.
0 likesHow is tirek a centaur but his brother is another creature
1 likediamond tiara is the princess of harmony cause she's bringing harmony a better way then twilight stoping villain's from being evil instead of defeating them
0 likesDimond tiara is gonna grow up to be a therapist- ๐
0 likes0:42 Does that mean they have two hearts too
0 likes1:59 Do't you mean HOOVES XXXDDD
2:26 Or Spoiled Milk. I remember her as Spoiled Milk( that a funny name, cause whenever i see milk, i think of her) because that's her name too including Spoiled Rich, maybe they changed her name to fit Filthy Rich, maybe she used to be called Spoiled Milk, but once she married Filthy Rich, who she was engaged to her last name changed like any human who marries( tho Filthy Rich has a better personality, than his wife Spoiled Rich, even tho he's ''Filthy Rich", he's quite humble.)
2:52 Oooooh
So key of reforming Tirek is talk no jutsu huh?
0 likes2:54 had me dead
3 likesBug queen: Friendship isn't a disease T-rex: Since when do you have mood swings 0_0
0 likesDiamon Tiara: The Princess Of Reformation
0 likesYo what if Tirek (and the other villains) reacted to this?
0 likessorry i'm in a bad mood i didn't get enough sleep from watching YOUR videos.
0 likesDiamond tiara is Op Change my mind
0 likesI love these videos but Pinkie Pie always punches me in the face at the end idk what's up with that
1 likeChrysalis also tried taking over 3 times tho
0 likesHow about a video about the storm king?
1 likeDIAMOND TIARA IS TOO POWERFUL!
0 likesHow does Tirekโs Boyd work? Did he really have 2 tummies Maybe 3
0 likesSomepony needs to make a series called "the gardians of harmony: season 2"
0 likesOmg teirk is like lord vorak from the Netflix series of she ra
0 likesHis brother changed I think he can reform to it will just be a little harder
7 likesCozy glo-! "Diamond tiara" oh.
0 likesImagine seeing Tirek at 3 am in ur room,would you be scared or turned on? ๐ณ (Joke)
0 likesI know the REAL reason he wants power...
0 likesBECAUSE ITS TIME TO GET RRRRRIPPED
Diamond Tiara: NO YOU CAN'T
0 likesOh my gosh EARLY!
11 likesHi! I hope your day is going well ๐น
The idea you gave is actually amazing
Me: tirek should meet discorrd
0 likesDiamond tiara: No no no I will reform him
So one of the biggest baddest villains who at least twice has tried to take over Equestria has daddy issues?
0 likesSorry Iโm trying to process that ๐
Is diamond tiara again i think dia- laughs -Sawtooth Waves
1 likeSunset Shimmer wanted power but when the mane 6 showed that only friendship would solve her problem of never finding a place and she could rephorme Tireck. Also Starlight Glimmer wanted power and was so obbsesed bye it she went to far g evryones cutie mark and keeping hers to herself locking the mane 6 in a room to give up there cutie marks and saying that talents were bad for you. So Starlight and Sunset could rephorme Tireck esellie
0 likesI thought you was going to say luna
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Same here.
5 likesSame
2 likeslps cookie official oh wow that acutally a good idea ๐
1 likei thought he was going to say Pinkie Pie-
0 likesYou would make a great therapist I think
1 like"And pressures Pacifi-Diamond Tiara"
0 likesI thought starlight shimmer would be related to Tirek..
0 likesFlashbacks to Starlight taking everyones Cutiemark and having power: yeah seems about right
No hate though-
I think everyone is just laughing or confused at 2:05
0 likesi was like Zephyr Breeze then he goes Diamond Tiara i feel stupid now ๐ ๐ ๐๐
12 likesI think tirek was adopted see how does his brother look and they pay more attention to scorpan that's why he want to impress his dad
0 likesBut bruh she reformed cozy glow like DUDE
0 likesSunburst: I can reform Sombra ๐๐
0 likesSo diamond tiara could be a therapist?
0 likesI have an idea
20 likesCan you do Sunset Shimmer and Princess Celestia Cutie mark why are they suns But different colors???
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Well
0 likesSunset takes place at sunset and the Celestial time of day is when the sun rises. Sunset shimmer takes place at sunset and Princess Celesta raises the sun at sun rise. I just thought of how she lowers it at sunset as well.
Pacifi-uh-Diamond Tiara!
0 likesPacรญfica is Diamond Tiara in a different universe CONFIRMED!
I love your theary but I feel like mabye it won't work so
0 likesPlan B
I think tirek will only give up if diamond tiara, cozy gloo, queen chrisilas and the mane 6 yes the mane 6 I think after all that then he will tranfarm good and I think after a full speech with his kingdom he can reform them to good the mane 6 can help to I meen mabye rainbow dash can try? She hasn't seen her parents in a long time and she can tell her story to that could be it
Wait, can someone please tell me where I can find the epiodes where twight turns like queen and when these 3 turn into stone??
0 likesI've watched my little pony almost 27 times
0 likesWhatโs up with the Pokรฉmon fish?
41 likesin the part โisnโt worth seekingโReplies (5)
ehehe
10 likesHehe yes I spotted it!
3 likesThe Pokemon is called seaking, it's a pun!
4 likesHere: it's at 3:10
2 likesAgent 7 more of 3:14
0 likesWhat about the dragon queen?
0 likesPlot twist: Tirek just have a hella long rib cage.
0 likesIf only there was a Reforming King Sombra
0 likesDiamond Tiara: Let me sing you a song
0 likesWhat she sings:
Never gonna give you up๐
Reply if you fell for it
And XDDDDD for the Pokรฉmon โSeekingโ joke lol..... <3
8 likestheres anther person that can reform. tirek which is Cinderella because she has 3 king what ever his name is. her step mother , and her 2 step sisters and instead getting power she has to do work.
0 likesI like when they are evil better
0 likesThe entire mlp fandom: should I stay or should I go.
0 likeslove the gravity falls reference
1 likeBig red moos with evil butterfly and cartoon child
45 likesGuys I literally just said something dumb like, how did I get 48 likes?
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Pretty much lol
0 likesHawk Moth?
1 likeXD
0 likesBreaking news: Locals have spotted a Centaur, a weird bug lady, and a small child near Ponyville
2 likes@Cool Keeper these comments give me a trevor Henderson vibes... breaking news with cartoon cat (cartoon child)
0 likes@Some Guy that uses the internet Lol i can actually imagine that
0 likesBasically he becomes a personal therapist and turn these hopeless alcoholics life around
0 likesDid you know that tirek is a centaur?
0 likesThis isnโt your last video is it? Because I have great suggestion for a new one. You should do a video of all MLP shipping because I think some of them became canon. It would be a great video donโt you think? By my personal favorite is Fluttershy and Discord A.K.A.Fluttercord. โค๏ธ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ค
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Sorry I meant to say By the way my personal favorite is Fluttershy and Discord A.K.A. Fluttercord. They would make a great couple donโt you think?๐๐ค๐๐ฆ
1 likeI thought you was gonna say his Brother ๐
0 likesI've noticed you used your own music ;3
8 likesI personoly think Starlight would help Tirek.
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Ooh, or Babs Seed!
0 likesDiamond Tiara; Princess of Talk No Jutsu!
0 likes2:06 and that person is diamond tiara again ๐
0 likesdiamond tiara is dual wielding reforming arcs
0 likesSawtooth: the key to reformer tirek is
27 likes๐
Right diamond tiara again
Me:...
Sawtooth:it right
DiAmOnD TiArA
Yay ๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ปthx for all
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When your parents say my little pony is for babys me-watch this channel. Parents- WATCH
0 likesapparently tirek has daddy issues
0 likesThe Roast part of Diamond Tiara tho XD
0 likesDiamond Tiara will save Equastria XD
0 likes1:58
28 likesMe: sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra,sombra!!!
Sawtooth:diamand tiaraXD
Me:๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค
Edit:come to think of it,the awnser is actually tempest shadow!!!!!
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Sombra isn't reformed though
3 likesOML YASSS
2 likesITS TEMPEST
I THOUGHT DISCORD AT FIRST BUT NO-
TEMPEST
Tempest is a good idea for reforming someone.
0 likesHello I was curious How KING SOMBRA COULD REFORM
0 likesSo does tarek have 2 origins and 2 stomachs if he has to rib cages
0 likesI saw the Gravity Falls reference. I saw that! Nice lol
1 likeCan changelings un-reform?
0 likesI'm surprised so many people came when this just posted 3 or 4 minutes ago
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Well he is pretty popular
2 likes2:31
0 likes"Paci--diamond tiara!"
OMGGGGG IF PACIFICA AND DIAMOND TIARA CROSSED PATHES THEY WOULD BE REATABLEEEEEE
Why the way he says those stuff makes me want to cry?
0 likesis the wasteland the result if mane 6 didn't stop tirek?
0 likesPink horse can reform a centaur from hell,nice
0 likes2:07 makes sense
4 likesPrincess tiara the Princess of solving your issues
0 likesgrogar gave him his strenth back
0 likesWanna know something? Centaurs could be considered as insects because they have 6 limbs
0 likesThese videos are the best
0 likesYour laugh makes me happy
3 likesluna was jealous but she can tell the wrong path leads you to the wrong way its your choice your heart is in the inside its your choice for your destiny
0 likesThe way to reform tereik is too you know he steels magic why not give him the magic of friendship
0 likesFINALLY A OTHER YOUTUBER THAT LIKES GRAVITY FALLS!
0 likesLol I thought the same thing after Diamond told her mother off ... "Ohhhhh" lol I miss mlp the ending sucks still can't change my mind
0 likesDiamond Tiara is Pacifica Northwest in an alternate universe.
0 likesI was thinking it was gonna be starlight
1 likeEveryone thought it was Discord but no Diamond Tiara.
0 likesDiamond tiara the princes of..
0 likesReforming!
What about the king of the hippogriff's!
3 likesNobody talk about him when the mlp movie came out!
poor guy! impriond in pony hell twice, and the tostone for etirnety
0 likesOh so he has daddy issues? I feel bad for him now, help him diamond tiara!
0 likesFuture Video: Why Does Tirek Have 2 Backs?
0 likesPOV: This is after they defeated sunset shimmer in Equestria Girls:
0 likesRainbow Dash: Well what do we do now?
Rarity: We canโt reform herโฆ sheโs a lost cause!
*Human Diamond Tiara Appears*
Diamond Tiara: Allow me to introduce myself-
Diamond tiara the on that can reform 2 bad guys because she faced true pain
7 likesgood fanfics from Sawtooth
1 likeNext I want to know how queen of the changelings turned evil in first place and who is queen of the changelings dad and mom
0 likesswatooth waves i think you will next say celestia and luna and all the princess are evil as they know how to use dark magic
0 likesI'm gonna summarize Tirek. Daddy Issues
0 likesHow come I saw a Pokรฉmon pop up in the video at 3:16 fast forward and check it out
5 likesCan you reformed king Sombra?
0 likesThe Gravity Falls reference!! ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
0 likesCozyglow the new...
0 likesCutie mark crusaders
Tirek is Prince Zuko, sue me
0 likesI m inprest. Good Job. I thing shining armor is the princ of love for ons children or the princ of confidenc. Thats bicous his never skerd and proteks his love ons. Sorry if you Don t Understand. And hi'd get his wings when he did something Which would make him stand out because now he's in the shadow of his wife and daughter.
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Nina Gril I physically could not read this
3 likes@ยกNUCLEAR! ยกSTRIKE! Yeah, my brain just noped outta there halfway!
5 likesI m sorry I Ment Shining armour could be the prince of love for his Child, or prince of self-confidence, because it's hard for him to be afraid and protect everyone he loves. He 'd get his wings, When he would Do something that would make him stand out from his family because now he's in the shadows. That's just my theory.
2 likesare you 5?
1 like@yanny no, I m not good at English, because its my second Language. And I usd. translations.
2 likes@yanny
1 likePlease never assume someone's age like that ever again. Thanks.
Nina Gril oh my iโm so sorry!๐ฅบ i really need to think before i act more. im so sorry
0 likesใCึ สึสษศถษสส Wษจสษใ i apologized, i feel terrible :(
0 likes@yanny its ok
0 likesAnd pressures Pacifi-DIMOND TIARA
0 likesSummary: Tirek has daddy issues, cozy glow is a manipulator and chrysalis feels betrayed
0 likesSawtooth waves: The key to reforming tirek is....
0 likesMe: who๐ฏ.
Sawtooth waves: ......
Me: Who๐ฎ.
Sawtoothwaves:...........
Me:WHO๐ฒ.
sawtooth waves: ......
Gonna surprise u๐.
Me:๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
mister just cant seem to learn his lesson
0 likes2:00 at this time i thought it was discord ๐๐๐๐
7 likesReplies (1)
Discord and Tirek would be bitter anime rival types
0 likesWow diamond tiara I was not expecting that
0 likesyeah but he was still angry that his brother Scorpan betray him to help the ponies.
0 likesHow Tirek will look ?
0 likesWe now how Chrysalis look, Cozy glow Is a pony, but what about Tirek?
He doesnโt watch my little pony,My little pony watches him
0 likesIโm sorry but he is crazy like a manic
3 likesReplies (1)
......nO oN#%e rEpLyd tO Y#%$=รทoU bUt m#%$@
0 likesdo a theory about the other glass window with the student 6 from the future
0 likesAlso make a video about reforming king Sombra.
0 likesprincess twilight before she became a queen :- we resolved all your problems an got rid of the most powerful villans (aka demons) of equestria
0 likesdiamond tiara :- SIKE YOU THOUGHT
future princess twilight :- INTRODUCING THE NEW REFORMER OF EQUESTRIA DIAMOND TIARA!!!
WHO REFORMED 2 OF THE MOST DEADLY AND DANGEROUS VILLANS
DIAMOND TIARA :- THANK YOU THANK YOU it was pretty simple and it was all DEFINETLY NOT because of sawtooth
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princess twilight:- ALSO I FORGOT MENTION THE BEST ROASTER AND THE MOST SAVAGE PONY
0 likesโThe funny thing is you think Iโm jokingโ
0 likesMe: Wait what
I kinda felt like it could have been his brother the person who would be the most similar but Diamond Tiara is best choice good job
5 likesI have seen a lot of of the videos one got me thinking can twilight and cadence turn into evil version like celestial and Luna or is that just a sister thing?
0 likesReplies (2)
Imagine if lil ol' flurry turned evil
0 likesDiamond Player ya
0 likesIn the episode where apple jack told apple bloom that she used to lie didn't filthy rich say his fiancรฉ was spoiled MILK
1 likeDiamond tiara:
0 likes๐๐๐๐๐ผ
I donโt think there is a better way to solve it!
0 likesHow about instead of commenting first?
3 likesWatch the amazing video FIRST
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They don't care about the video, they just wanna be first
1 likewait why does Tirek seem similar to Zuko here
0 likesReplies (1)
tirek is actually evil, zuko is just a misguided angry teen
0 likesPacifi-Diamond Tiara...
0 likesMy Deep Brain: What If MLP and Gravity Falls Had a crossover-
Mean while Iโm over here being happy about the Pokรฉmon reference
0 likesPOV: This is after they defeated sunset shimmer in Equestria Girls and Twilight told the Mane Six to reform Sunset
0 likesRainbow Dash: Well what do we do now?
Rarity: We canโt help herโฆ sheโs a lost cause!
Applejack: we should give up, itโs been 5 days now-
*Human Diamond Tiara Appears*
Diamond Tiara: Allow me to introduce myself.
2 minutes later:
Sunset Shimmer: Hey guys Iโm just happy to be here! :D
Mane Six: confused screaming
When you donโt know what to comment
5 likesI now have a favorite filly
0 likesDiamond tiara is god
1 likeCan u reform more characters
0 likesTirek and cozy glow : BICTH WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE
0 likesME : YOUR GOING TO BRAZIL *YEET DIAMOND TIARA INTO ROOM WITH THE VILLANS *
After 70 hours
diamond tiara : we are friends now
Yeet, I'm here what's up
18 likesThrow diamond tiara,terek,and cozy glow in s room and now what about the evil person.
0 likesWhat about King sombra can he be reformed ?
0 likesIโm late by 4 months, but sunset shimmer is still a good choice. Enter the commando book.
0 likesPharynx - 1
0 likesDiamond Tiara - 2
Why not sunburst??? His parents arnt fun either. He might relate to him
5 likesReplies (1)
or Starlight..
0 likesDiamond tiaras lucky she doesnโt have to go to her moms friends house
0 likesI thought your were going to say Sunlight Shimmer, but I guess your answer is okay!
0 likescool what about one for reforming the new chagegeling
0 likesAnd what if he wants to be the best because he doesn't want to disappoint his father. Not his father is the one strict
0 likes2:15 i dont
3 likesdiamond tiara, unpaid therapist
0 likesHow about reforming King Sombra
0 likesHe didnt take the changelings or the yachs or the dragons power
0 likesI cant beleieve
0 likes.
......... that it....
........
Ended...๐ญ
Starlight....
.....
Glimmer.....
Hiya :P :<
14 likesReplies (9)
Your first
3 likesCongrats
Hiya ya second :3
1 likeLema Cat Oh my gosh really!?!? >.<
1 like@Raindrops no
0 likes@MultiLadyBug 1 Am I first or second?
0 likes@Raindrops second
0 likes@MultiLadyBug 1 no there first I checked
1 like@Lema Cat no they arent
0 likes@MultiLadyBug 1 yes
2 likeseven if he does scorpan will never forgive him.
0 likesHe just dies when he say diamond tiara again
0 likesBut I thought treck eats magic?
0 likesMaybe Tirek is adopted?
0 likesI'm the first Comment! Or not.
8 likesWhat about getting to tirek brother to help diamond dust to reform him
0 likesMe: hahah would it be funny if it was diamond tiara again i mean there's no chanc-
1 likeHim:THE KEY IS DIAMOND TIARA
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Im a physic lol-
0 likesLucifer: I know his father he's the same traitor as he
0 likesHow do you know all this knowledge About ponies
0 likesA kid solve the villain's problem- (lol)
0 likesShe should be the princess of Reforming
0 likes"paci-uh dimond tiara"
0 likes"GRAVITY FALLS INTENSITIES*
โDiamond tiara againโ
0 likesMe: what is with you and that pony
diamond tiara as a therapist perfect u got the job [five minutes later] ok so what happ- EH WHAT DEHQUACK HOW DID U MAKE 2 OF THEM NICE?!
0 likesMe: ok I think whoโs reform ping Ti-Rek is... OOH discord cuz like u know brain
0 likesSawtooth: DIAMOND TIARA
Me: WHAT SHE CANT DO THAT TWICE!?!?!???
How can a pegasus become an alicorn
0 likestempest from the movie could help too
0 likesOr maybe its silver spoon,tempest
0 likesWhy not do what they did with sunset shimmer look at it like this they both wanted power show them the raw power of friendship it is at chance your way work's this way he will eventually give in for the power
0 likesDiamond Tiara and Tirek? Ok.
0 likesThis video is literally a comedy
0 likesEdit: ok mayyybe not
i'll be honest ehre, i only lsiten to the patron thing at the end cause it's funny to ehar him when he says yoshi darklord XD
0 likesTirek = Prince Zuko
0 likesgimme a second gotta tell SCP-049 I found the cure
0 likesDoes he have like two hearts and two of each organs
0 likesSawtooth have a full on heart attack
1 likeScorpan will never forgive him.
0 likesbad ending Twilight steals magic from his father and take over a whole kingdom. than goes "in your face dad!" lol
0 likesWhat if grogar interferes?
0 likesPlease I need to ask you a question Chrysalis holy glow and Tara they sang a song a better way to be bad and every time the main six help take could it be the editors just wanted them to win cuz cuz they cuz they just wanted to get more subscribers or could it be they he wanted them to win because they think the kids would be so scared that that was pretty about that or else I'll be
0 likesDiamond tiara is a savage
0 likesNow I need to see a diamond tiara vs flim flam bros video
0 likesI looooveeee you when you laugh when you said Dimond tiara
0 likesfriendship ponys and love and light
0 likessunset shimmer could reform tirek tho
0 likesWhat About Tirek When Heโs Human
0 likesJust throw pharyinx and diamond tiara in a room with the villians
0 likesThis is cool
0 likesTirek also has 2 spins-
0 likesThat has nothing to do with this video
I didn't expect to cry today TvT
0 likesYou need flurry heart to help crystiles t rec and cozy glow fuse she is the princess of light
0 likesmind blown
0 likesI don't understand how you talk so smooth but if you wanted me to talk in your place I would stutter and the whole video would be me stuttering very frequently ๐๐๐ like if you agree
0 likesMy little pony: diamond tiara saves everyone
0 likesDiamond Tiara: โI have something you donโt... FREINDS!โ
0 likesMe: OOO SPOILED RICH GET ROASTEDDDDDD
Lmao that episode made me cry like the perfect pair did :,)
princess of reforming villians or for short relatable princess LOL
0 likesWhy am I currently watching this at three in the morning
1 likeThe cheetah T-Rex is Dan tiara
1 likeI think with bright colours or the opposite colours with him
0 likesI think tireks ribs is just one big rib
0 likesIsn't tarek the last one of the species
0 likesSorry for this, BUT TIREK CANT BE REFORMED!
0 likesgive to tirek a test!
0 likesWhat about ember she rebels from her father when he said she could not be emperor??!!!?!
0 likesCan you do reforming king sombra
0 likesTo me it looks like reformed chisisalis will stab you w her horn๐
0 likesWHY IS DIMOND TERA NOT A RULER KNOW SHE IS THE ANCER FOR EVERYTHING
1 likeNeed meds DIMOND TERA ๐
the next thing, equestria will have a new princess which is diamond tiara ;-;
0 likesโFriends!โ
0 likesClap Clap Clap
Hint: the answers not Diamond Tiara๐
0 likesโHe wants to prove him self to his dad and live up to his expectationsโ๐
Me: hmmmmmm that reminds me of someoneโฆ ๐
Comment on my comment If you think you know who Iโm talking about๐
I think he has one big rib cage
0 likesImagine how tirek in centaurwrold
0 likesSo basically make terik do the same thing a gay coming out of the closet does
1 likeSwore down thought it be one of the dragons or the minitor that helped out fluttershy kinda
0 likesDiamond tiara is going to be the next alicorn
1 likeI BELIVE IN YOU DIAMOND TIARA
diamond tiara is the best pony
If you dont agree
FIGHT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He got daddy issues like Zuko.
0 likesWait- sunset shimmer is also a good person for tirek too ๐๐๐
0 likesThis is some strange fan fiction
0 likes"Srsly how does tht work"
0 likes...ANATOMY HELP-
UH OH SOMEONE HAS SOME DADDY ISSUES.
0 likesi think he also needs discord.sure he betrayed discirr but uts all in the past right.discord also have similarity with him since he was from evil to goof
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i said good ok
0 likesWhat the title should be:๐ฝreforming tirek๐ฟ
0 likesWhy cozy want all that power
0 likestirek is cande strong if she villans
1 likepet Godfing diomind Tiara here
the one can't reforming all villans
even cylis and cozy grow
eventually i liked tirek
0 likesTirek has extreme scoliosis
0 likesSo I wen't back to check if you did the same thing here with the villains soundtrack and-
2 likes0:52 You sneaky-
Lord TRAIN WRECK
1 likePacif-diamond tiara lol
0 likesDIAMANT TIARA IS THE KEY FOR EVRYTING
0 likesCeric kind of your magic diamond to your eye is a literal
0 likesSoooo Tirek has daddy issues. That's what i got from this...
0 likesHow do we reform sombra
0 likesWait ive heard of your vidios of secret evil friendship.......become dimond tiara+queen.
1 likeTe rek should be good I want peace in equstireya soo nice but I have a question what is cozy golw Princess of?
0 likesBrilliant
0 likesDiamond Tiara { The Princess Of Being Relateable. }
0 likesTirek does not have two ribcages, he just has one long ribcage. It is similar to a lasagna. Stack two, it forms a bigger lasagna.
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Sheesh I made this comment 5 months ago?
0 likesNow it is ten?
0 likesSeriously just pop all the villans in a room and dimond tira
0 likesSawtooth wave do you think you know who his brother cause it would make a good theory.
0 likesisnt. worth. seaking. me:okie more pokemon puns- WILL YOU STOP BITING THE FLOOR YOU FURRET (my ferret chews on the floor and i call her a furret)
0 likesDiamond tiara again๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
0 likescould sunset shimmre reform King sombra
0 likesSawtooth reform Sombra you forgot him
0 likesWhat exactly did I even compare to Star Trek.
0 likesTRIXIE she was hungry for power alicorn amulet
0 likesI think youโre focusing too much on diamond tiara
0 likesIn that moment, Diamond Tiara realized two things.
0 likesOne, I donโt have to follow who your are.
And second, I have friends unlike you.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
Is season 9 not available on Netflix? How do I get it?
0 likesMake video on how to reform sombra
0 likesI miss the dazzling
0 likesPause at this moment 3:16
0 likesUmmmm maybe tirek literally a set of danger to diamond tiara if someone can use a spell to remove thorax power temporarily.....
0 likesAnother diamond tiara again welp i guess cutie mark crusaders pls make sure she does her job ๐
0 likesWhat about king sombra?
0 likesat 2:47
0 likesme: applay cold water to the burned area
it is like bi love you might be a girl or boy that likes your gender it is your parents to have a choice if the they dont like that you like your gender most of the time your FRIENDS will be with you through that and friends can be the closest family
0 likesI think it should be starlight because she was once power hungry but now she is reformed
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Hjmmmfty jag ringa till dig jag รคr pรฅ det hรคr med
0 likesDIAMOND TIARA AGAIN.......ARE YOU SERIOUS
0 likesSo does that mean that he has two stomachs
0 likeshello i dont think starlight will become a princess cuz at the last episode she was kinda old
0 likes2:32
0 likesBAHAHAHAHAAHA
Pls i love that
4:50 is that why you need three?
0 likesHUG TIREK๐
1 like2:42
2 likesWhen I was watching that episode when it came out I was like OOOOOOOoooooooOooo sHE ROASTED HER MOTHER XD
2:32 GRAVITY FALLS FAN YAS
0 likesEdit: 3:15 Pokemon fan too? Wow am I learning more things about Sawtooth today!
the only other person that i have met that is also confused by how centars have two ribcages
0 likesReform sombra next
0 likesMake a reforming sombra video
0 likesSounds like an abusive father to me maybe both emotionally and mentally
0 likesQUICK! SOMEONE MAKE SOME FAN COMICS OR ART!!!!
0 likesStory of Evil queen chrysalis
0 likesI was like WHAT HOW THE HECK is it diamond again AGAIN AGAIN!!!! seriously?!
0 likesI THOUGHT DISCORD WAS GONNA BE THE PERFECT PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likes3:16 why was there one single frame of a fish type Pokรฉmon here
0 likesTirek you're a horse man
0 likesYeah we could do that but how would the villain is created๐ง๐ง
0 likesHONOR!
0 likesWait does that mean that t reck is a prince
0 likesWow Pacifica is great
0 likesPower power I need power hahahahah I must save my Queen
0 likesI would of thought Luna!
0 likesDiamond tiara๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ
0 likesYAY!!!!!!!!! another gravity fals fan!!! I'v seen every episode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesi think this is the best way
0 likesDiscord and cozy glow woodwork
0 likesMr swatooth waves what do you think happend to king sombra is he dead or still banished or reformed So what do you think happened to him
0 likesI think your wrong cause when Queen Chrislasis say her people change she went out seeking revenge maybe the same will happen?
0 likesWhere is his heart?
0 likesWhat about somber how do you refurm him
0 likesWhat is the background music at the end a brand new pair of wings
1 likeI think dimon tiara need help
0 likesIn the reforming chrysalis video in 1:07 I think that that's wrong. When the mean 3 were under the cupcake and Celestia said There is blah blah blah punishment worthy waht u done, I think that the sun moon princesses were going to turn them into stone. Then discord whispered something into the princesses ears, and I think he wanted to join in the punishment. I'm pretty sure that that theory about discord was the one turning the mean 3 to a statue is wrong to me.
0 likesCan i ask why the show would put the person to refrom them but they never showed the reformation :/ its dumb.
0 likesOk we need to make terik make remember
0 likesI'm not tirek neither Cozy Clow but Izzy Moonbow and I'm a unicorn of night not a demon
0 likesPaci-dimond tiara
1 likeAre you kidding me diamond tiara
0 likesDiamond Tiara the therapist
0 likesDid I saw seaking? ๐๐๐๐
0 likes10/10
0 likesI went in a rented to my mom cuz like I knew that you were serious but I was like what why and I was like explaining like why they were paired up like that but tirek just doesn't make sense
0 likesOkay? What? Nice ๐
0 likes#KingVorakTheSilly
0 likesWhere did you find that picture of 2 x 7
0 likesLemme guess
0 likesDiamond tiara
I thought that The pony of shadows with the key of D Flooring TREC what do you think
0 likesScrew Twilight, Diamond Tiara 4 princess
0 likesWhy not Tempest shadow
0 likes(On discords cutie mark)
0 likesRewatch make new freinds but keep discord. At the part where he was talking to twylyght. when she was confronting hym the fyrst tyme. He may or may not have a walking styck. It may or may not be interesting to pay attention to it.
I thought u would talk about the comics in this series
0 likesI trough Tirek was dead
0 likesbut if he refuses?
0 likesI didnโt Even name all the reformed villains I mean there r sooooo many
1 likeI agree with you
0 likesWhy don't you just introduce video to discord make him apologize then let them relate like with cozy and Diamond tiara
0 likesWhy-
0 likesITS A CHILD, TEACHING AN ADUIT! THATโS NOT RIGHT.
DANG IT DIAMONDS TIARA AGIAN?!
0 likesWhen he said vordak ........ why did i think of HORDAK FROM
0 likesSHE-RA??????
Tirek and crissalis should get married neeed
0 likesDIAMOND TIARA AGAIN
0 likesWhy does the girl in the picture of the cozy glow one looks like flurry face remember the one who destroyed all of your Alcorn dreams yeah that one
0 likesJust give them Naruto and they're fine.
0 likesOkay but what about Princess Lunaaaaa!!!
0 likesWho is king vorak?
0 likesIncorrect she realised 3 things the 3rd is the fact that her mom has no friends
0 likesThe creators of mlp would make diamond tiara stupid to fit in with some annoying plot...
0 likesI thought he would choose discord because VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS
0 likesDiamond tiara THROW HER IN A ROOM WITH EVERY VILLAIN IN MLP diamond tiara will save everyone
0 likesPRINCE TIREK
0 likesI think about senatores I think about how do they have two stomachs like I understand you're supposed to be half horse but seriously Is one for keeping food in store and the other 1 for Digesting it?!?!?๐คจ๐ฌ
0 likesHow skeleton? *it's two souls and bodies fused together.*
0 likesNo i think discord can reform tirek
0 likesFINALLY
0 likesDiamond tiara is now pacifica northwest-
0 likes๐๐๐๐๐ Diomand tiara again oh and Crhysalis,cozy glow,and diamond tiara ok i laugh so hard
0 likesIf that doesn't work then maybe discord but in the form of his dad.
0 likesWas there other centaurs that appeared??
0 likesOk so Iโd like to now WHERE you are getting this IโM ONLY AT COZY GLOW AND THATS IT I CANT SEE ANY MORE plz show me where I can find the rest of the show๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
0 likessigh opens Spotify and plays daddy issues
0 likesI think i know who can help reform Tirek
0 likesZUKO! AND AVATAR AANG! MLP & ATLA CROSSOVER!
Just Joking ๐ i know it's impossible just trying to make a Spin on it ๐๐ 2:00
๐จ๐๏ธ๐ผ๏ธ
0 likesMaybe we can!
0 likesYou know you should be joking do you not remember star swirl the bearded his Apprentice or whatever come on seriously
0 likesLol Diamond Tiaraโs mom is a Karen XD
0 likesYou can tell a changeling to disguise as his father and say that he wants to change to be a good guy but donโt let him to go back to his father and talk about because it could me everything go in a big mess
0 likesbefore u revealed diamond tiara I thought of fluttershyโs brother zephir coz hes a disapointment to his parents and always trying to get somewhere
0 likesThe guy that was like took my shadow I donโt remember his name he could probably help to read but I really know OK OK
0 likesSeriously, how many times have u watched the show?
1 likeReplies (1)
No hate
0 likesyou are correct
0 likesI think that dimind tiara abandend her mom like sunset shimmer abandend her studies because her mom was so mad at her
0 likesI wanted something you don't have friends
0 likesMe: hahahah
A GRAVITY FALLS SCENE?! I STILL SAW DAT
0 likesReplies (1)
WHERE!?!!
0 likesOk did I miss a movie did they make a new season on my little pony cause I donโt remember these characters working together and if I did miss a movie just tell me the name I am so lost
0 likesDiamond tiara: ive have something u dont have ... FrIENDs
0 likesFandom: OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH OOOIHH
this is so true
0 likesReforming Tirek is just bad as a concept.
0 likesIt think the key to removing him is.......
0 likesIM GOGUNG TO SUPRISE YOU!!
Me:EMCOxmamwowakwwhishsish
he cant be roforme mlp is already ended on season 9
0 likesHey this had nothing to do with this video and idk if you have already made a video on this but in mlp equstria girls apparently there is a twilight in their world and the pony world and sunset is from the pony world. So could their be a sunset shimmer non pony- world in equestria girls?
0 likesPrincess luna can help too
0 likesWould Luna work as well
0 likeshe has daddy issues
0 likesCALLL CHIRON HE WILL HELP HIM
0 likesWhere are Tireks parents and people?
0 likesWow
0 likeswhat about stigion?
0 likesWow
0 likesTirara is a therapist
0 likes"Hands terek waights " o.o
0 likesWait what about discord he followed in his footsteps and he chooses fluttershy couldn't he help terik
0 likesNo it.
0 likesIs spilt milk
Diamond tiara the cer to all of your probem's lol
0 likes2:32 is that gravity falls?
0 likesLayla โค๏ธ
1 likeIt does not make any sense Diamond tiara is not a villain anyways not Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, and Tirek never got in the good team. And why would they?
0 likesI think that day will never come back because I think discord is way more powerful than the two sisters I mean come on she has chaos magic and they donโt
0 likesReplies (1)
Ummm
0 likesDo you think spike is a T-Rex because you don't have wings
0 likesAnd I think I know what he records goal is because his brother younger or older or twin brother is 16in full and outwitting that's a question I would really like to be answered so what if they were brothers I've been wondering that for quite some time now and why you doing this video If I have a triple dog dare for you while you if you do this video I would like you to turn into a dog or something I think that would be very funny Orchard way you can turn into mythical creatures correct so then turn into a dragon or turn into a rabbit or something something weird wait or you can turn into the same thing as T wreck cuz I really don't know what it is oh and I love your videos that have inspired me to make my own channel and your videos are amazing by the way if you like to swing by I can how come my videos as a surprise guest that would be very fun
0 likesHow can a filly reform t-rek๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
0 likesWow I love the gravity resemblance hah hah ahhahahahhaha
0 likesBut what happened if Tirek sucks her magic
0 likesNah jk-
Cool
0 likessawtooth why do u always put cozyglow and flurryheart in the same vid photo and love ur vids
0 likesThere is one way or one other way to or from Teaneck grab him and put put fence up into him
0 likesMy little pony is not done yet thereโs this other show called Pony life and made from the same person who made my little pony so my little pony is still on tho
1 likeWhy not you just put diamond tiara in a locked room, so that you don't need to make all these videos.
1 likebut tireks parent are DEADDDD D:
0 likesGUYS IM NOT A BRONY
0 likesare u kidding diamond tiara
0 likesDiamond tiara.....hhhhhhhmmmmmm...... Yup I think she is the answer of the problem
0 likesbut what about meting nightmare moon
0 likesDiscord said dad so are discord and tirek siblings
0 likesWhy is two ribcages certificate
0 likesOh my gosh Iโm subbing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh I thought that you were gonna say Sunset Shimmer...........because like.........doesnt it make sense??????
1 likePacifi- Dimond teiara
0 likesPrincess Luna maybe
0 likesDiscord roasted him
0 likes2:54 LOL
0 likesHmmmmmmm who wanted to impres-
0 likesDIAMOND TIARA THE PRINCESS OF RELATIMG WITH VILLANS
WOW EVIL
Me: Waiting for the next video
0 likesMe again: writes this comment on a different vid
wow
0 likeshonestly just throw them in a room
0 likesWell Diamond tiara is a kid if could get killed
0 likeshow manny times have you used that pinki pie imege
1 like2 times dimon teaora
0 likes3:15 WHAT IS THAT
0 likesvillains: hi u suck Iโm gonna stay myself
0 likesreformers and the fandom: ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE SOME GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE
diamond tiara and more ponies : I exist, NOW DIE EVIL! GO GO GO RAID!
Scorpio will just kick him out.
0 likesWhy not luna๐
0 likesYes... NO SION 9 PLZ CAN OUT NOW!!!!!!!๐ And love them!๐
0 likesReplies (1)
What?
0 likesNo starlight glimmer
1 likeI think sliver spoon
0 likes2:43 GET REKT
0 likes2:31
0 likesGravity falls is connected to my little pony?
I like pudding ๐ฎ :p
0 likesYou forgot sombra if he ever gets freed :/
1 likeReplies (3)
Sombra died, discord was the only one who could bring him back. And I don't think even discord would want it revive him again
0 likesDiamond Player THEN I WITH MY BS TIME POWED SHALL BRING HIM BACK AND REEK HAVOC ON EQUESTRIA CUZ IM STILL MAD AT TWILIGHT
0 likesLol
0 likesi said good at the end not goof
0 likeshear me out. sunset shimmer
0 likesYes I think youโre right we should do it the other way like Iโm knocking do you like other way Iโm just Stena nothing like maybe thereโs another waveform you know him to learn friendship is not a disease friendship is good but research while I am in her future way I have a closing club tea Rex and cream and queen chrysalis are they still on the loose on the choppedIn a cage
0 likesHas the series finished or something ooooorr??? :/
0 likesReally?!?! AGAIN?!?! IM SICK OF DIAMOND TIARA!!!!
0 likesUGH STOP BEING MEAN TO........
0 likesDiamond tiara
U sure diamond tiara Is gonna reform both villains discord could reform t-reck i donโt know how to spell this
0 likesi thought you were gonna say luna
0 likesWait, didn't you have a different name?
0 likesThere one luna cuz when luna become nightmare moom she want to rule the world she can say ruleing thr world is hard than so you need friends to help you ruleing is helping pony like friendship
0 likesI SWEAR TO GOD HOWWWWWWWWWWWW
0 likesWhat is the king for it has three bags
0 likesFlash warning
0 likesfirst who is cozy glow parents give credit for the vid
0 likesCome on sawtooth every time I saw discord itโs diamond tiara why again
0 likes3:16 first before you click this pause the video โฆ is that a Pokรฉmon ๐
0 likesJust beet king vorak up
0 likesLATE CHEEEEEEEEEEEK
0 likesI think Trixi/Trixy schould help Tirek because Trixi/Trixy also wnted power but when she met starlight wait now Trixi/Trixy AND Starlight light should help Tirek
Discord made a nerve there?
0 likesDiscord made a nerve there?
0 likesWAIT did you almost say PACIFICA i mean they aren't even ali- ...... Oh OHHHHH WHAT IF YOU MAKE A THEORY that characters from OTHER SHOWS are also connected to characters from MY LITTLE PONY well sure you focus on mlp but pleeeeaaaasssee do so. OKAY I ASKED THAT NICELY SO ATLEAST DO THIS IN A SHORT VIDEO FLEE HORSE NOW DO IT!
0 likesHe,s right
0 likesWho thought the key was discord like me๐
1 likeHe needs to eat what will are eat
0 likesu forgot sombra
0 likes2:49 BURN
1 likeBut then he will be harey
0 likessaw tooth waves please give me a shout out i am a huuuge fan
0 likesand i just started watching Lol you solved my confusion
Wait why not Somer!!!
0 likesInteresting. I suppose.
0 likesI honestly was thinking discord might help
0 likesawesome oooooooooo to coooool๐๐๐๐
0 likesWhat about sunset shimmer
0 likesWhat abaut sombra?
1 like๐
0 likesThug lifeee
1 likedimond tiara:u have no frens mom. me:BURNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likes100%
0 likesis...GONNA SUPRISE YOU >;)
0 likesOooooooooooooooh Dimeond be Savage talking like that to her MOM but her mom be toxic
0 likesPttt 2 bacs and ribcages just stuck w/me lol
0 likesDiamond ex Machina
0 likes๐
1 likeKing vorak King Thorak....hmmmmmmmmmmm
0 likesHahahahahahahaahhhaahahahahah diamond tiara are you 100% serious sawtooth all you 1000000% serious
0 likesOops sorry for that tweet but you have a great app
0 likesReformed A.U.
0 likesWhat does your cutie mark mean
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What does it mean what does it mean what does it mean
1 like๐๐ ๐ diamondtiara
1 likeWhat about sambra
0 likesMeet his dad meet his dad and speak to him
0 likesIt might work but it might not
0 likesno you're joking
0 likesno there is no other way
0 likesPACIFICA NORTHWEST-
0 likesWait why didint the e last bad guy power of chaos get broken wen he was turned to stone
0 likessun set
0 likesI just noticed that tires has TERRIBLE POSTURE
0 likesAnd then find spinel
0 likesI think spinel is better I mean Terenceโs dad is tricking him like pink diamond tricked spinel all you need is something that can take you to Steven Unileverโs
0 likes1:43 ... THE SAID PEOPLE! what is people? those things don't exist in horse topic
0 likesIs sunset is an element please share it on your video
0 likesmmm sawtooth can you help me with one thing i cant find the mlp equestria girls seasons you know twghlights first princess summit right then the friendship games i cant find what happened after the friendship games I CANT FIND ANY OF SEASONS PROPERLY can you help me . O and i only found only 9 seasons of friendship is magic only where there is no equestria girls seasons nor epesodes i am seriously confused of the story . And what happend to flash sentry anyways did twghlight merry him or what
0 likesI like it and I.Hahaha
0 likes๐๐ฒ๐คฃ๐
๐คHmm..
1 likeOopsie I spelt something wrong hope you donโt mind and I hope you know what I mean
0 likesi am ur BIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEESSSSSST FAN I LOVE MLP
0 likes3i remember that old mlp
0 likes#DimandDiaraForNextFrincess xd
0 likesI think discord could also help
0 likesOop found it
0 likesWhat is which you and Diamond Tiara? Lol
0 likesNo offense, BTW
Diamond tiara. Is haha haha ๐ used agin I know Wright. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
0 likeslmao Pacifica-
0 likesShe rost here on mom
0 likesAs much as I love the idea for how Tirek could be reformed, isnโt that a possible risk for Cozy Goow and Chrysalis. I know itโs a stretch but considering how smart Tirek really is and how long heโs had a lust for power, Iโm sure itโs possible for him to โunreformโ them. Just an idea though I donโt mean any harm by it! ^^ lol
0 likesReformed Chrysalis looks so beautiful! So lovely! )
0 likesI don't know, I think using Tirek's allies would help in his reformation. You're right in identifying that Tirek has some deeply rooted family pride, but his father is not his only family member. Given that his brother Scorpan came to this realization a thousand or so years ago that friendship wasn't all bad (initially arriving with Tirek on the same mission) even then he tried to urge Tirek to give up his mission, and it didn't work. Since then, if an individual in a similar role attempted to aid in reforming him, he may reject the idea based on the betrayal and resentment that is rooted in his relationship with his brother. Diamond Tiara is a fairly neutral party that would be a good initial step, but ultimately I think there needs to be some focus on looking at Tirek's family relationships before going for a full on reformation. Seeking out Scorpan might be a good idea in this scenario, he would know the nuances of the pressure that Tirek is under and could relate his personal story of how he became reformed, despite hailing from a very similar background as Tirek. Chrysalis and Cozy Glow certainly shouldn't be counted out, but I severely doubt Tirek would trust them initially. If anything he'll see individuals who colluded with the enemy, and abandoned him, just like his brother.
0 likesYou truly got me. I thought maybe princess Luna was a good option since just a Tirek, she needed to be enough for her people despise the shadow of Celestia, but also felt that she needed to up her game in order to be as respected at her. Didnโt thought you would return to the โDiamond Tiaraโ card but I think itโs fine, interesting and makes an little bit more of sense, lol.
0 likesi thoroughly enjoyed watching this vid, good personality, great content.
0 likesYou know, Tirek seems a bit smarter sometimes than the other two. He's the one who said "let's not use chaos magic", and he's also the one who wanted to "hunt Twilight Sparkle" when she escaped. And he was the one who knew the trio couldn't get up Mount Everhoof alone.
0 likesThis one's yet another stretch from the series going on much longer than was needed. Tirek was never intended anything more than a callback and a Satan incarnate to be offed quickly and forgotten about. Chrysalis wasn't especially altruistic herself, but she had real motives beyond wickedness at her inception, as did Cozy. Tirek by design in plain evil and any sympathetic stuff is tacked on to try avoiding more pure evil troupes.
0 likesThe changlings can even relate to Tirek. Heโs old and frail without stealing magic, and the changlings were hungry and incomplete without the love of others. The changlings found friendship and their hunger was satisfied, Tirek can find friendship and become young(er) and strong without having to steal the magic of others.
0 likesMaybe the evergreen forest should have it's own theory because in the the comment section of discord origins I made a story and in it I said when Discord appear the first time his seeds that fell into the ground could have also caused the everfree forest go Coco banana bread to prove this point look at all the times when Discord appear before he was reformed we see the everfree forest go wild and capturing ponies but I think since the harmony (the mane 6) and chaos (Discord) are at peace that everfree forest do you think this theory can actually be possible?
1 likeI think his brother scorpion should also be there. He tried to convince him to embrace friendship once but if he knew exactly what was driving him, he might be able to help reform him. It might work. What do you think?
0 likesI personally would have used Luna instead of Diamond Tiara. Similar desire for power based on feeling inferior to an older relative whoโs also an authority figure.
0 likesI do like the idea of the other reformed villains forming like a support group for the last one.
I think Trixie would be also good fit to reforming Tirek. Trixie would be a good fit because she tried to prove her worth to others and went too far. She would be able to teach him that you shouldn't have prove yourself to others to feel validated and teach him how to be patient.
0 likesThis guy never disappoints :D
0 likeshey. i know you probably wont see this, but, iโve been watching your videos for.. years? i think? and i thought you would have given up on mlp or just disappeared by now. i appreciate what youโve done SO so much, even making theories after the showโs end. i love you so so much and i hope you had/have a great day today. ๐
0 likesI'm actually glad these three didn't get reformed in the show, but if they did, this is EXACTLY how I would want it to go down. Consider me EXTREMELY impressed with your theories... that have kinda dipped into psychological and maybe even therapeutical territory.... hhhhhuhhhh... (glances at Dr. Wolf)
0 likesEventually every villain in the show will reform. ๐
0 likesBut let's give credit to Diamond Tiara if it hadn't been for and the other two then Tirek probably would've may or may not learn about the importance of friendship and family.
Just heard the This Day Aria remix again for the millionth time. you know, I don't know if it's just me, or it gets a katrillion times better each time!! Brony, you are a national treasure at both remixes and theories, but I beg of you to try to upload sooner.
1 likei get that its bad the tirek stole all the magic in equestria but could you imagine how cool that would be, he returns home in his huge and powerful state and all the other creatures there are just so stunned
0 likesNo. I like your way of reforming them. I hope the creators of mlp make something of your theories one day.๐๐
0 likesMLP FiM did touch on toxic relationships, and potentially toxic relationships, but never fully committed to it because of the show's target demographic, and that's fine, maybe one of the shows those kids pick that are intended for older demographics will go a bit more in-depth with those sort of subjects. Tirek is actually a pretty good walking example of a toxic relationship, both in how he interacted with Discord and how he talked about his feelings towards his brother, and his ability to steal magic could be considered a reflection of how toxic relationships just seem to take more and more and just get bigger and more problematic, often to the point where all older approaches won't work to dealing with them when someone finally gets around to dealing with them (like how some toxic communities are), but he is also in a potentially toxic relationship, chancesa are Tirek's relationship with his father is toxic and the extreme approach Tirek has taken is because of said Toxic relationship, further fed into by whatever philosophy King Vorak drilled into him before the events that got him locked up in Tartatarus the first time.
0 likesTirek's going to be one tough nut to crack in terms of reforming, the toughest of the Mean 3 in my opinion.
0 likesHave you ever talked about why scooterloo canโt fly but Bulk Biceps can? I always found it weird that scotterloo canโt fly for long because her wings are to small to hold her wait but Bulk Biceps whoโs wings are almost the exact same size if not smaller can hold his weight
0 likesWell in reforming cozy glow theory u said that diamond tiara cutie mark actually means to lead and leading and reforming are just different and as we know that a cutie shows ponies their true destiny but the destiny is always single but I think diamond tiara is very unique her cutie mark actually means reforming and leading see two things and the main side stand of reforming all the villains is cmc because if they didn't helped diamond tiara she wouldn't be able to reform the villains in the future
0 likesKing Vorak doesnโt value power though. Itโs not that Vorak didnโt think Tirek was strong enough, itโs more that Tirek took it all the wrong way. Iโm pretty sure thatโs stated in the comic.
0 likesIt is difficult to reform Tirek, but I believe it's possible. But, he still needs magic to feed. I wonder what compromise can be found here?
0 likesStarlight would've been perfect too because she wanted power over ponies too, she kinda went thru similar stuff
0 likesI have a suggestion for a future video!
1 likeYou can do โHow the nightmare forces were createdโ with someone or yourself.
You can also talk about how Luna was possessed by them and how rarity was, in the comic issue โNightmare Rarityโ
The only reason im suggesting this is cuz not a lot of peeps do videos about the nightmare forces and nightmare rarity is underrated XD
I hope you do this in a future video!โบ๏ธ
Iโm not that into MLP anymore, but I might just subscribe because you are hilarious!
0 likesIโm team chrysalis so I would not want her to be reformed and the thought of her being reformed gives me chills
0 likesdiamond tiara should be a princess if this actually happens at this point I mean like she straight up reformed two of the worst villans๐
1 likeClearly the only pony TRULY capable of reforming Tirek is Bulk Biceps.
0 likesAfter enough workout sessions Tirek will gain near permanent muscles that donโt rely on flimsy magic stealing ๐
beautiful chrysalis cozy glow and tiirek reforming
0 likesCan you do reforming sombra next? I know the comics already did this, but they were essentially decanonized a while ago. Pretty please?
0 likesDude.. did you actually read the comics? King Vorak wanted Tirek to move away from his evil ways. Tirek learned how to steal magic in complete secrecy.
1 likeSawtooth waves there's something interesting that I'm right here somewhere the Storm King tee reckon score panel look pretty similar for the family are they somewhat related like you said in this video king something something something could be like a scorpion or something go back and look at G1 or even more I want to know more and you're the best channel to do it so much fun so much speculation I'm just giving you some ideas cuz to me it feels like you haven't posted in 2 years
0 likesi think on one hoof daimond tiara would be a good at this but chrysalis would be a better adivisor because when she reformed she she left all her old subjects and maybe if there are other changling unreformed once she left her past behind made a fresh start she would be better at this as she knows tirek better you see
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seriously think this through sawtooth so in a normal ponies perspective twilight send a filly to reform a villain that could destroy equestria !! well this was an interesting theory nut i disagree
0 likesYou are really clever, and i am suffering from covid 19 but and i am in quarantine so it is really boring staying in one bedroom so i watch ur vids really makes me happy
0 likesI'm disappoint no one mentioned Snips and Snails....
0 likesYou know you wanna see it! A full season arc of it!
iโm a new fan. iโve watched the whole series of reforming the villains from MLP. but you forgot to reform sombra. so can you do a video about it?
0 likesif diamond tiara was a princess, she'd be the Princess of Redemption. which wouldn't make sense, but it sounds a lot better than the princess of reforming lol
0 likesI thought u were gonna say silver spoon. Because she only did some stuff for diamond tiara, but ya know, I like ur theory too.
1 likeSawtooth Waves now that your finished reforming the the big bad final 3, can you please make videos about how to reform:
1 likeSombra
Lightning Dust
Suri Polomare
Flim & Flam
Gladmane
And Sven Gallop
I know this doesn't count about reforming tirek but did u notice that when celestial made twilight into a princess the place looked like the dream world? So maybe Luna can do the same or maybe celestial liked the dream world?๐
0 likesThe two ribb cages are just skeletal weirdness I'm sure his organs are well
0 likesTirek takes power from others all the power. So much so they cannot regen it. So what if he took a tiny bit. If course the ponies would be drained but they could regen it. Then what if Tirek could generate his own
0 likesTerec could also go with sunset shimmer too
1 likeLuna is the perfect one for this not Diamond Tiara, because even tho she had her mom for her king Vorak, Luna had Celestia. You see, Luna, like Tirek, started out happy and because of feeling low and not rising up to expectations,she turned into something bad. I.e Nightmare moon. But Diamond Tiara was born and risen to become rude, not starting out good. And like tirek had his brother Scorpan to rise before him, Luna had Cadence. So the real person who shud have explained was Luna, not Diamond. Pls make a vidio on this, Sawthoon.
0 likesI was thinking of a comic where scorpan comes back but at 1st hes very crossed with tirek over what happened years ago and doesn't want to speak and every time their with eachother tirek tries to make amends but scorpan doesn't want to and than scorpan snaps and cries and here's what they say after scorpan's episode.
0 likesTirek: I'm... sorry.
Scorpan: you honestly think I'm not upset over what happened when we were kids I was just.. trying to be mature through all this..
Tirek: I know
Scorpan than lays his cheek on his older brothers hand while tears stream from his eyes.
Tirek let's out a slight smile
Tirek: you want to know what's nice about being together again?
Scorpan: What?
Tirek: I get to tell you jokes I used to say when we were kids.
Scorpan: laughs Be serious
Tirek lifts him up and says
Tirek: there's my jolly scorpi.
Scorpan: Hehe your embarrassing me man hahaha.
They laugh and hug while are crying.
After words they decide to have a race after leaving equestria and they both laugh while racing.
BTW a very interesting choice for a reform
What about possibly being able to reform King Sombra?
0 likesTerk is pretty old, there is no guarantee that his dad is still alive. If he isnโt, Terk will never be able to gain closure, either through a good reconcile, or a Spoiled Rich rout. No matter how toxic a parent is, its engrained to want their approval, or respect. Itโs almost a trope for characters to be motivated to do great acts good and bad and/or stick around in a situation that makes them uncomfortable, unhappy, or thatโs dangerous , all for a parentโ love/approval/acknowledgment. For better or worse the lost chance to fix or end things between a parent and child will haunt the survivor. Forever leaving them with โwhat ifs and if onlysโ.Terk may yet be reformed through found family, but he may equally never be able to completely let go of his quest for approval, made a doomed foolโs errand if his father is truly beyond his reach. ....then again, equestrian magic might have a โtalk to the deadโ spell!
0 likesI mean, I know discord was rogar the last time and rogar is banished to the stars but letโs say he was back. Maybe we could try reforming him?
0 likesI think starlight would also be a good solution because she also tryd to steel ponys power by there cute marks
0 likesHOW DO YOU REFORM THE DAZZLINGS ONE AT A TIME?๐ค
0 likesThis might be a stupid question but did the show ever explain what became of Tirekโs brother?
0 likesVorak... Thorax...
1 like........why do I feel that- king Vorak could use some reforming too?
Anyone agree?
Love the video!
0 likesSawtooth i THINK ya missed something in the last episode of MLP :
0 likeswe see that Twilight Sparkle became the roller of ALL of Equastria took over Celastia and Lona's mission AKA raising the sun and moon BUT we see on the LAST second that the sun was setting BUT Twilight was NOT either flying nor using her magic because her horn wasn't even glowing wich sadly DEBUNKS your theory about Celestia retiring from raising the sun maybe Lona also from dream walking but who knows , my point is , it seems that Celestia and Luna ONLY retired from ROLLING Equestria NOT from raising the sun and moon.
I love this one
0 likesWait Question Why Does (Spur) From CMC's Turn To Adults Episode Looks Like Cozy Glow But Much Bigger??
0 likesAlso I Think Like Luna Would Fit Better Than Diamond Tiara Cause Luna Have A Bad Past
I completely forgot about what Discord said, my track was more about his brother. Seriously, we know he tried to rule with the use of Scorpan, but we don' hear about Scorpan at all after that. Where is he? Is he still alive somewhere?
0 likesThough, since I was talking about Tirek being betrayed by his bro, I was thinking about how Discord tricked Fluttershy so she showed him she didn't value him anymore (the "NOT. YOUR. FRIEND!" scene), how Diamond Tiara got Silver Spoon vote against her and roast her afterwards, how Starlight Glimmer had her entire village turn their backs on her, how Thorax lead a rebellion that quickly got the entire swarm,... oooor, how Luna got banished to the moon. all examples of meanies who were betrayed because... well they were harming the people. Didn't Tirek harm Scorpan? Shouldn't that be addressed, if he's still alive to speak about it?
But now of course Tirek can turn his back on his father just like Scorpan did to him, and that's just the same.
EDIT:
... Waiiiiiit! What about Sombra? I mean I saw you were talking about the windows at the Castle, so apparently he's not oblitarated? idk how that's possible that he's not, but anyway, could it be possible to change him? Wouldn't all that be weird with the other world from the comic book?
It would be cool if Sawtooth Waves did a video that luster dawn could be starlight gilmmers and sun bursts daughter
0 likesall the villians are pretty much reformed except the storm king he got turned to stone but in the credits he was still stone, but he seemed alive and we have seen magic still works in stone coul the storm king be making his return?
0 likesHe could have chosen Sunset Shimmer, Starlight Glimmer, Trixie, or Luna, but he chose Diamond Tiara, the child.
0 likesYou don't know what kind of species is Tirek? He is a Minotaur.
0 likesWow it's a beautiful idea it chould be possible I love your videos I'm a big fan of you
0 likesDiamond Tiara should be the Princess of Solving problems.
0 likesWait wait wait, so if the king doesnt reform.....will he become the new big thing?
0 likesWait.... is diamond tiara finally best pony???
0 likesYes.
Wait, where does diamond tiara live? Surely her mum kicked her out after that confrontation
1 likeHey you should make another My Little Pony theory about Discord and where he came from
1 likeI thought Luna could reform Tirek , just a thought.
0 likesTirek gives me now Loki vibes
1 likeActually I think starlight is the ๐ to reforming tirek
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Kind of
0 likesTirek needed an Uncle Iroh.
1 likeOk, now talk about sandbars cutie mark
2 likesDiamond tiara is the solution to my depression
0 likesI think all those are good but what if twilight contacts sunset shimmer as well to help reform for back up here is why I say
0 likesLike t-reck sunset shimmer craved power and wanted take over equestria due a falling out with celestia her teacher
Another is princess Luna because being jealous of her sister celestia which made go into nightmare moon
Another is starlight glimmer based how she was reform and why she saw her actions
And the great and powerful trixie by starlight side to help calibrate their story and ideas
T-reck is tough powerful villain that is known be one of the baddest I think with alot help one group at time just in case something goes wrong
For some reason I thought he was going to say Apple Jack not diamond tiara
1 likeI wanna reform a villain? Diamond Tiara!
1 likeU wanna stop the climate change? Diamond Tiara!
U wanna stop Corona,!? DIAMOND TIARA!
U wAnNa DiStRoY hUmAnS!! !???? DiAmOnD tIaRa!!!!!!!
does nobody appreciate the gravity falls referance he just made? i really enjoyed that joke
0 likesThey could be reformed
1 likei have a theory for you about the last song
0 likeswhen you watch the song at 2:52 you'll see how cheese looks like pinkie or at 2:56 look how discord is looking at fluttershy
why do i ask this? well we know because of the last episode that they are couples but here comes my theory
look at 2:58 and look at soarins look at rainbow dash it's exactly the same as cheese's look at pinkie pie
or at 3:13 look at how flash is looking and twilight and at how she is looking at him + we never saw flash in the show expect for the moments that he was a guard but he isn't one in this moment
so i think that this is proof for them to be also couples
but what about rarity and applejack? they both don't have someone like that so i think that they also are a couple
whaat do you think of my theory? i hope you can find more this or at least got some inspiration from it for more of your amazing videos
In fact Tirek is just a daddy's issues.
0 likesAh Who could have guess๐คฃ
Next on saw tooth waves: dissecting Tirek, literally. What the heck is his internal anatomy?
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He has two stomachs? ;o
0 likesActually a lot of hooves creatures have multiple stomachs. I wonder if one heart is sufficient for that big body. Also all those limbs!
0 likes@Sara Gold Since he's a centaur, I'm guessing he has the bottom anatomy of a horse and top half of a man...demon or whatever the top is lol.
0 likesStill, I wonder what it's like to have that body. What exactly does Tirek eat?
I know he uses magic to power up, but is that the only thing he can consume?
@Wisteria I mean, you would think so, since there is two distinct body parts. But his torso has no butt. and his horse butt has no mouth :o
0 likes@Sara Gold Centaurs don't work like that. He has a "human" mouth and digestive system that's connected to the horse internal organs.
0 likesThis just in: Tierek is just Prince Zuko from atla
0 likesThis entire was... heartwarming. Thnx Bronx Notion.
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Entire series was what I meant to say.
0 likesHey Sawtooth waves I know you haven't posted in awhile and I want to give you an idea how about you doing orange and Story video I know you already did a feud those but how about like they like where you came from and who your pictures are won't don't go too deep then it just gets scary and weird but yeah you can just have fun making a little origin story for your OC please do it I would really enjoy it from whoever this is
0 likesWhy does noobody think of reforming sombra? Pls make a video about hem too ๐ฅบ๐
0 likesTirek is a cyprian centau.
0 likesThe centaur with bull horns
I think Luna would fit the bill better than DT but okay.
0 likesI agree with thise one more than the others
0 likesVideo idea:- Can 2 pony get the same cutie mark?
0 likesI am late, ik, but better late than never!
0 likesI think diamond tiara will be young adult when these transforrmings will begin, cause in that episode when everyone is older, tirek, crysalis and cozy glow isnt in the episode
Can u do a video of reforming king sombra I know he dead but it would be interesting to see how his future looks
0 likesWould King Sombra return since no oneโs ever really gone could that be said for King Sombra?
0 likesDiamond tiara+pressure=*boom*
0 likesMe: needs key sawtooth: diamond tiara
0 likesDoes that mean Tirek has two sets of lungs-?
0 likesTry one about King Sombra
0 likesI have a question about my little pony you can answer. remember the time I put a video that ponies get their names depending on their cutiemark? What about apple bloom rarity and scootalo. They got a same cutie mark but their cutiemark is different from their sisters apple jack, Rarity , rainbow dash.
0 likesI still wanna know who Screwball is?
0 likesDiamond Tiara, The Villain Wrangler
1 likeKinda like in Skellington's Revenge, which is a YTP.
0 likesThat bit of gravity Falls just made me laugh
0 likesUm, I have a question,
0 likesIs there any pony with the same cutie mark and at the same time in all of Equestria except for the cutie mark crusaders?
So tirek is an MLP version of prince Zuko from Avatar
0 likes5:40 should be his brother or dad. or one princesses i think best deal
0 likesCan sombra be reformed?
0 likesCould you do a series on gravity falls to? Because i love that series and i want you to maybe talk about it.
0 likesTirek has shoes ๐ค๐ฒ
0 likesTirek: takes all ponies magic
0 likesStorm King: Takes all alicorn magic
Is it just me or does anyone find a similarity between the storm king and tirek. Lol what would have happened if storm kind were still alive till season 9.
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He is kinda alive. His statue can weakly move but he is to weak. They cant unstone him because he would just be dead flesh.
0 likesMr Gold
0 likesOh yeah. Good thinking.
@Fireheart Thanks.
0 likesPoor trekkie...
1 likeI gotta tell you there is a thing called comics and there are season 10 comics of mlp in this we explore zecora's homeland all I read was part 1 and twilight raising the sun once
0 likesSawtooth waves is my favourite YouTuber
0 likesI WAS WAITING FOR THIS YESS
0 likesMake a video of reforming King Sombra
0 likeswhat if diamond tiara is skyla, the toy
0 likesHow about his mother though?
0 likesHey so when you really think about it what did scootaloo do when she was a child (Sheโs in the CMC the orange one)
1 likeTired has 2 hearts and 4 lungs
0 likesand pressures pacif- i mean diamond tiara
0 likesBring back his brother!
0 likesIt should be discord or scorepan... O.K O.K... I know that scorepan even though he turned his brother into the princesses I would love for season 10 on how The reform villains that be amazing if they do that in like a season 10!! MY MLP!!!
0 likesIs โreforming King Sombraโ coming next?
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ooh, yeah!
0 likesโขAddiโข really tho, he was part of the squad/trio, too. Well, in the season 9 premier The Beginning Of The End. Or heโs probably dead.
0 likes@COOLSKELETON95 i don't think he's dead though, he might've been sent to Tartarus (if i spelt that right) or, he's just hiding somewhere.
0 likesโขAddiโข maybe.
0 likesAnd you did spell it right
0 likesโขAddiโข if he was sent to Tartarus, then we wouldโve seen him being sent to Tartarus. Plus, he came from a demonic ritual, so he canโt be hiding somewhere because we saw him being blasted away.
0 likes@COOLSKELETON95 If he was blasted away, where would he be sent though?
0 likesโขAddiโข back to where he came from. I thought that wouldโve been obvious.
0 likes@COOLSKELETON95 He'd still be a threat, maybe he was finished off? He wouldn't stop coming back.
0 likesโขAddiโข true
0 likesโขAddiโข wait, if he can only be summoned by a dark ritual by some pony, then maybe they shut off the only place where the ritual can happen, so that he canโt escape.
0 likesCan u do a video asking if u can lose ur cutie mark if u donโt do what ur meant to do?
0 likesHinges on the personality of an un-met individual.
0 likesKing Vorak is Fire Lord Ozai
1 likeHay Sawtooth connecting you and the ending of all of your videos you kind a look like a mix of Derby and Dr. hooves like your videos though
1 likeDo you know what your doing?
0 likesNo.there is 5 more ponys . sweetie Belle
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I know five more ponies that can help do you rag be good sweetie Belle Cheese sandwich
0 likesI know five more ponies that can help Khirek be a good person sweetie Belle
0 likesCheese sandwich discord you and Twilight sparkle
Dose tirek have two hearts?
0 likesWait will Tirek become buff(&hot) again when he expirences friendship?๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐๐๐๐๐๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
0 likeswhy just turn all pony to an alicorn
0 likesThrow a Fluttershy at him
0 likesSawtooth Waves you didn't talk about king sombra on how he will be reform
1 likePlease make a video about Nightmare rarity
0 likesYou can bring friends and family
1 likeDiamond tiara again lol
1 likeYou did all those but how do you reform king sombre
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Iโm pretty sure king sombra is dead
0 likesI call spoiled rich rhino nose because her snout is really sharp, LOL I'm mean!
0 likesWhat if sombra could rrturn too
0 likesAnd the mane six as evils??
0 likesWhy did crustless Become evil?
0 likesIf They Becomes evil
1 likeWhat if some pony releases them from for stone for bad and how will they try to release them. And how should we stop that some pony.
0 likesNotice how he almost said Pacifica :> (IS YOU A GRAVITY FALLS FAN :OOOOOOOOOO)
1 likeSigion he wanted power
0 likesPOST THE NEW SONG ALREADY!!!!!
0 likesi would of thought you would pick loona
0 likesะดะฒะต ัะตะบะปะฐะผั ะฟะตัะตะด ะฒะธะดะตะพ? ะ ัั ะฝะต ะพัะธะณะตะป,ะฑะธะทะฝะตัะผะตะฝ?
0 likesLord Tirek vs. Tyrannosaurus Rex who Would win?
0 likesPlz do a face reveal ๐๐ป
1 likeWhat about king sombra
1 likeHmm you know what would be cool
0 likesIf sans meets the ponies i wonder how he would act
no pinkie pie is the solution she will force tirek to learn "frineds ship" in a curl way.
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pinkie is our god!
0 likesStigean.he was exiled by his friend he was not known with other people and turned evil and needed power to let people love him.
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0 likesWhat's the music at 0:23?
0 likesUh I have a question itโs abt equestria girls
1 likeAs we know sunset shimmer is from the pony world
And everyone in the pony world has a duplicate in the other realm
But what happened to sunsetโs duplicate in the other realm?
Wow
0 likesAnd that person is Diamond Tiara again professional adverb forming villains diamond tiara be professional at everything being a villain getting reforms and reforming villains
0 likesReforming terek
0 likesDamn
1 like2:32 ... THIS ISN'T A GRAVITY FALLS VIDEO!!
0 likesI think you should add to the group discord not the app
0 likes3:34 what that fancy pants. so i guess fancy pants is her day how odd but cool. or might a job thing with his look of clothes look like a job suit. or not because few second latter i see someone or pony came out of cake shop i think, at 3:36.
0 likesGravity Falls channel with Theories?
0 likesgood terak is NOT GOOD
0 likesGravity Falls!!!!!
1 likeWhat about discord the bell turn into evil giant monster will destroy worlds
0 likesOMG THE XD THE LOL THE WHAT COST GOT ME!!!! XD xD LOLLLLLLLL
1 likeWho is king vorack
0 likesHi I have a quest gin you know how loona was sent to the moon for 1,0000 years
0 likeswell Star Swerl was to and in seesen 7 or 8 cealestya and loona said that thay dident see them sens thay wher yung but Star Swerl was in linbow after loonu was sent to the moon ware was he beafor that time and how did he go mising beafor gowing to linbo!
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0 likesWho king Vorak Iโve been playing animal crossing for to long oof
0 likesWhat does he look like?M
0 likes2:54
0 likesROASTED LMAO
No is ridiculous. Tirek pride is big. Pride bet Pride.
0 likesBINOD
0 likesHe retired
0 likes3:20
0 likes:)
0 likes0โ years ago that was not my first year of school
0 likesLayla heart
1 likeNo i think it sunset shimmer
0 likes3:16 what the...
0 likesI lilehow you slipped a pokemon into a mlp video
0 likes:O
0 likes3:16
0 likesBtw sawtooth you havent done that q and a you ptomised 4-5 yrs ago
1 likeThe tan windchime considerably analyse because squid ethnically shop despite a adorable deodorant. misty, merciful brick
0 likesI dont sink that diamond tiara is the ke i sink that Starlight glimer isthe ke
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Bikos after princesse Twilight Sparkle she Is gona roul Ecwestria
0 likesyour reply smart
0 likesIf you like as imortal that make his brother and his father imortal
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So what his brother try to reform him
0 likesWhen are you upload a new video
0 likesMakes sense to me idk about you tjough
0 likes2:11
0 likesGood
0 likesWhat๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ
0 likesMy little pony skinny and honey
0 likesI thought discord was the key
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I feel like tirek and discord would be like anime rivals
0 likesWhat an magnificent mini series, loved this, thank you
1 likeInteresting Diamond Tiara Cutie represents leadership so maybe she can lead the former villains to a new way of thinking, like she said she knew her Cutie mark is to get other ponies to do what she wants ๐ lol
2 likesI think the key of reforming Tirek is Scorpan and Princess Luna. After a thousand years the brothers didnโt see each other. Maybe Scorpan can come Equestria and show him what he learned. But of course it wonโt be enough for him. Tirek wants be like his father, King Vorak. But Scorpan can show him a better way. I think he already knew how to work together with other villains. In an episode three villains , Chrysalis, cozy glow and Tirek tried to steal Grogarโs Bell. Chrysalis and cozy glow failed. But Tirek didnโt even try to steal the bell. He said you canโt do this alone we need to work together. He already knew this. All he needs is team work. He needs a family group. You are right cause with Scorpan,Chrysalis, Cozy Glow and Diamond Tiaraโs helps finally he can feel family senses. And he can reform. Good job Sawtooth ๐๐ป
1 likeLove these things the we can learn from and hope for. Tirek could make a great partner in fighting evil.
0 likesSure their reformation is being exposed to friendship, but they don't buy it at first like Discord. They themselves have a realization that power means nothing compared to friends, somewhat like Discord's situation in S4. Discord truly reformed when he lost his magic, he realized that if your in a bit of a pickle your friends would always help you out.
1 likeI think your methods to reforming the big bad three are most reasonable and I think it might work๐
1 likeYay! This has been an intresting reforming series. Now you can answer other questions, such as: Why is Cozy Glow behaving this way?
0 likesThat's REALLY surprising diamond tiara is almost the key to reform everyone
1 likeGreat! This was a wonderful trilogy. Now you can explore other ideas, such as: how have we never seen a single Kirin child, including flashbacks?
0 likesRegardless of how people feel about season 9, i thought they did a great job of fleshing out the villain characters. Before, Chrysalis and Tirek were just kind of, "HAHAHA, I'M EVIL!" And while they still are obviously by the finale, they are much more interesting characters due to the episodes dedicated to them. Great video!
0 likesDiamond Tiara even has a crown on her head, the princess of reforming ๐
2 likesDamn! What a wicked showing of theory-talent and plan-scheming. Now you can do other theories, such as: how did each of the ponies came to be in the place we see them in the future? And who is Luster Dawn?
0 likesAmazing! What a truely fascinating journey it was. Now you can solve other riddles, such as: The colorful glasswindows from the future.
0 likesI was extremely overjoyed now that you made this video. I was waiting for this for ages.
0 likesOkay, now that you run down all three villains's reformation ideas, here's a question: How will you convince all of Equestria to accept these now "reformed" villains after all they've done? I doubt every creature (including the main cast) will be in a forgiving mood.
0 likesI think Tirek can use the magic of friendship to grow stronger without having to take it from ponies
0 likes"the approval of someone who doesn't want what's best for you isn't worth seeking" that hits hard
0 likesDoesnโt Tirek eat magic? I was thinking that all he was doing was feeding off of the other ponies for his own survival. I was thinking along the lines of โthe power of love can create new magic where none exists and feed you foreverโ and then heโd be set for the rest of his life. Starlight Glimmer and Queen Chrysalis could also play a part in his reformation.
2 likesAwesome! What a 120% cool plan-to-save-Equestria it was. Now you can save the fans by making new discoveries, such as: The full process that makes unicorns change from normal-looking ponies to huge, hideously beautiful sparkly monsters.
0 likesI think another method to reform Tirek is , Starlight. From the beginning , Starlight wanted everyone in her village to be the equal . So , she took all the village ponies cutie marks and put them in a cave .While she hid her cutie mark by some sorta stap . When Twilight and her friends came to her village on a friendship mission. Starlight showed a lot of cruelty on that episode. But then a later episode, showed Twilight and Spike the reason why she took all the village ponies cutie marks . Twilight said something like this , โ You donโt need power and taking cutie marks to have a friendship . And Starlight almost gotten Crystalis to reform the that one time . Maybe Starlight could try again with Tirek and be successful to reform Tirek .
0 likesHonestly... Grumpy could also help. He had expectations of finding Matilda, but became distracted and hopeless, which led to his grumpy demeanor. I think this is how Tirek is with the expectations of being powerful.
0 likesHere's a thought for you to think on for a bit?
0 likesIs Sombra going to come back in gen 5 of mlp? And how could he be reformed himself?
If you look at the mlp comics with Sombra in them then you can actually see that sombra was once a good guy but he actually became overwhelmed by darkness and turned evil and on top of that he used to have a childhood friend that loved him and it was revealed that he once lived in the crystal empire. So my question is this: Can Sombra come back a 3rd time? And can he be reformed at all?
https://youtu.be/ALIujlk_Qo4
Here is the link to a comic dub of Sombra's origins and I want you to analyze this quite a bit and listen to it carefully of what goes on because if Sombra does return in Gen 5 then I think there is something from here that could help reform him
But Tirek seems weak and clearly malnourished when he doesn't have others' power. It seems like magic is food for him like love is food for changelings. There is no way to have a lifetime supply of magical power just by having friends. I think that trying to reform Tirek would basically be the same as starving him.
0 likesI don't know if they mentioned the meaning of Diamond Tiara's cutie mark in the show but I think it represents leadership not that she is spoiled how she was Leading the People of the school along with pipsqueak in the right direction of class president
0 likesIโll take your word for it I thought about it and couldnโt come up with anything so I trust you about this.
0 likesyou should make a video where you reform them all
I honestly feel this will be more so a queen Chrysalis situation. Maybe the kingdom will change but not the king. But I feel one ( or two ) more ponies ( one more so not a pony ) to help if the message doesnโt become clear with the three of them. Fluttershy and discord. Considering how ( at the end so spoilers. ) they are a literal couple and one was a chaotic being who originally only cared for chaos, they would be the best picks since discord somehow knew about tirekโs motivations and, during the movie, fluttershy could talk down a attacking soldier and made him re-consider his life, they would be a โ help us if we canโt do it alone. โ type of help.
0 likesDear Sawtooth Waves, can your next video please be on ''Reforming King Sombra''? By the way, I love how you are predicting wonderfully life in Equestria after the end of the show, plus I am your huge fan!
1 likeThank you for the amazing video!
1 likeSince Celestia controls the sun and the thunder star and grogar was trapped in the stars does that mean Princess Celestia could of potentially released Gregor I mean it's not the first time she's had a villain released just wanted to share my thoughts on that
1 likeBeing honest here , I believe a possible help to reforming Tirek would be, believe it or not, EQ Twilight. She was pressured into using her pendant's power, and stole from others, similar to Tirek.
0 likesNeat! What a nice bunch of frenemies video it was. Now you can dive into other stuff, such as: The School for Gifted Unicorns! This place seems to have a serious case of dropouts.
0 likesI was expecting to reform Tirek by making him realise that power isn't everything. And that a lot of power can't satisfy him. He could use his powers for instead of taking powers to ponies, but giving it to them, when they are in need of it.
0 likesStarlight could be another potential candidate for reforming Trek, she has walked a similar path until she realised the error of her ways
0 likesWow I need to watch every reformation video two or three times to fully understand them
1 likeone problem here is that vorek wasn't disappointed at tirek for not being powerful enough but because he didn't cared about the values his dad tried to teach him and was power hungry from start so he betrayed the family
0 likesDon't you think Diamond Tiara could be the best of the worsts but she just wasnt powerfull enough?
1 likeNot all villains need to be reformed
1 likeYou're the master of making videos
1 likeThey reformed king somber an eternity ago in the comics. Which pissed a lot of people off. However they also tried to make iron will a villain also in the comics which I heard did not work very well. This coming from a guy who heard people complain about the season 5 finale in there reaction videos slash review because it tried to make the film flam brothers villians in the future who were back ground characters that had no dialogue and there on screen for maybe like ten seconds in that last episode.
0 likesWhen you giggled it sounded so cute ๐คญ
2 likesExcuse me friend, I am a fan of mlp and I really would like to be able to appreciate your theories on possible reformed villains, the problem is that I speak Spanish and in English I am more clumsy than Derpy and I would like if it is possible to allow subtitles to be put on your videos for that the Spanish-speaking community can enjoy its splendid content.
0 likesI hope you can keep that pinky promise.
Thank you.
Hey uhm... I know this is probably not a very interesting idea to ya. But could you by chance consider making the next topic maybe focused on sombra? And why hasbro gave him the worst personality when compared to comic sombra? Perhaps maybe find a way to properly tie in an actually good story for him. And the reason why among every other villain he wasn't given a good reason to be a villain? I love sombra from the comics so it just feels like wasted potential ya know?
0 likesLove your channel
2 likesHe needs Zuko, Zuko went through all of this. I know they are from different worlds,the pony world and the Avatar the last Airbender world.
1 likeI actually knew it was going to be diamond tiara to reform tirek. After I saw how she will reform cozy glow
0 likesIโve bin waiting for this ๐ฅฐ
1 likeOk... The only thing i disagree with is that his Father has expectations for Him. I always thought that Tirek want to look good for his father to impress him as he felt that his Father loved his brother. I always thought his brother although not "strong and powerful" is loved by his father
0 likesWhen is someone going to talk about Grogar's bell and what happened to it as well as what happened to Grogar's magic when the bad trio was turned back into their original forms?
0 likesWhat if Tirek was like thorax was in some way like the way thorax was never hungry he was able to become stronger little by little to some extent and then go back to dear old dad
2 likesEdward: " Don't worry Tirek... I do know understand that you want your father proud of what you are doing... But I think that's enough " he said
1 likeCan u talk about how tempest horn hasn't grown since she was a filly, because I mean it's not like she lost her whole horn, only part of it, so why hasn't her horn grown
0 likesDam why is he so smart ๐ค I want to be smart like him and make theories about shows that need a little more
0 likesTiara is Ultimate Villain Reformer ๐
1 like#dear sawtooth
0 likesIn the episode frienamies when the villans where about accept the light of friendship it seems that queen chrysalis had a flashback. Do you think that the mirror universe queen chrysalis cast a spell that prevented evil queen chrysalis from reforming. What do u think? Love your channel. โฅ๏ธ
I just realized that Thorax and Vorak sound very similar, Iโm just saying it could be a coincidence
0 likesi think i have an idea on how flurry heart was born an alicorn cadence was originaly a pegasus. and she was given the powers of an earth pony and unicorn. and she got more powerful unicorn magic from shining armors DNA.
0 likesSawtooth: Found a way to reform 3 villans
0 likesTwilight: I give up your the new queen
I think Trixie and Princess Luna should play a part in there somewhere
0 likesI always thought scorpan would be the one to reform him
0 likesSawtooth, i just love your videos, seriously... i agree with u
0 likesfor Scorpanโs sake, I wanna see Scorpan returning to smack Tirek in the face with a rainbow lazer
0 likescould you do a video on : who's the least important element of harmony?
1 likeWouldn't scorpan be a better key for him? Making up for the whole betrayal thing
0 likesthing is, i'm not laughing. I'm surprised that I had the same idea, when you mentioned 'father'
2 likesWow Sawtooth Waves That Video You Made To Reforming Tirek Is The Best-est Thing ever๐คฉ๐๐, Great Job I'm So Proud Of You๐๐๐โญโญโญโญโญ, I Can't Wait To See More Of Your New Video's๐๐, I Hope We Can See You Try To Reformed King Sombra.๐๐ค๐
0 likesThat Pacifica joke cracked me up ๐
0 likesLike D. Tiara she comfident of her own ways since tirek want powers to all unicorn they have same types except cosy glow that "power is friendship" and she said. They have pridism,greednity and flaw on thier ways but ist much better if is family. if your alone in the woods and your power is not enough to finish the pointed end of the dark woods your still weak and defectiv in the inner side or like your core of But like tirek he wants and he wanted like D. Tiara who is greed and stepping up to the 1st place but real talk guys. Power is still nothing to shows like all antagonists and protagonist has power. In real life powers are just imaginative things but not our personalities even tirek loses power and he de-skinned centour he stil special even he evil he need family and and friends to live on to
0 likesMaybe something like that will happen in the next My Little Pony movie
0 likesDid he just said diamond tiara's mother's name is spoiled rich ? ๐
1 likeWhat about Discord? I mean he was in the similar situation about choosing friendship and power
1 likeI dont get why in cartoon's when some one change's to good their outside form change's too.. Why cant their form just stay the same?
0 likesSo I'm sorry if this seems like a hate comment but. Its a good thought to think that he could convince his dad if so be the case but that can just lead back to the problem. Why I say this is because if his father's intentions allowed on this great quest for over 1000 years then I don't think tierek can walk up to dear old dad and change that with his quote on quote new family. Its like thanos he killed his own daughter for power. So I think he's gonna need a bigger push than that. Even so tirek is probably gonna hate the ponies that put him to stone like that. As he might have the mind set that all I'm doing is having friendship nothing more so if twilight and the mane 6 are in trouble tirek probably won't care. Since he can protect his family. Discord however made a bond with ponies he doesn't like their ways but he accepts them just cause his family are the ponies. If u see where I'm going with this then tirek needs to find a way to find a bond with the ponies and not just specific individuals. Also king Voltok ( sorry bout the misspelling) might have motives behind this. No-one gets up and says I have high expectations for you son gain all of equestrias magic. Its possible that tireks father was unable to complete such a task or something of the sort. Kind of like avatar. Zoku never found peace by capturing the avatar he was just doing his father's dirty work or something(forgive haven't watched all of avatar). Some these points I have are jumbled but its what came to mind.The points you have are great but I'm just saying and plz tell me if this more like a hate comment not what I meant at all.
0 likesHow does this guy still get so many views? Other brony youtubers get like 10k views.
1 likehow about the dragon princess?
2 likesto me is his mother, she believe in him all the time and she will do all she can for his sons, She finally a chance to have her older son back she will do all she can and yes those you select are perfect and i think is will work but he need is mother, she believe on him and be more support more of what his father a be and i think with his first friend and his mother he can finally be in peace and maybe finally found is true calling!
0 likesIf i marry Diamond Tiara does that mean all my problems will get solved? LETS GET CONVINCING THEN
0 likesMay be Starlight Glimmer can reform terik because when they both got defeated they came back for revenge
0 likesWait, did king somber really die? Maybe we could reform him
0 likesWhat about Princess Luna? She could also help!
0 likes2:15 remember how the cm said thatโs sheโs a leader maybe she going to lead them to being better
0 likesOn the subject of tirek having two ribcages, i think he just has the one. just one suuuuuper long ribcage. ugh.
0 likesPacifica- DiamondTiara!
1 likeOk but she really is like Pacifica
Can u show the reformed version of tirek
1 likeI think maybe tireck if thatโs how u spell it lol I think he could maybe talk it out with his dad and the episode could start with that sort of like how starlight made up with sunburst i dont remember his name also lmao anyways and at the end cozy glow, queen crystalis, and diamond tiara could do a whole Speech in front of them
0 likesWow, you must realy liked Diamond Tiara;)
0 likesIn "the cutie re-mark" when twilight was in the universe where king sambra wasn't defeated, where was Luna? Cadence? Shining armor? Did they get killed? Imprisoned? Whatever happened to them?
0 likesi just realized that tirek's brother looks like the manticore... Is that worrying?
0 likesCelestial:diamond tiara I need you to reform tirex and cozy glow :diamond tiara: wait what?!
0 likesI think starlight boiler she tried to gain power by stealing curry marks
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0 likesThere is one little thing that bugs me with the show, and thus with your theory since you kinda kept that spirit: itโs this idea that every solution to any problem in Equestria has to pass through Friendship in any sort of way. I find it a little narrow-minded.
Well anyway the show is the show, so if we want to keep it canonically possible we will have to go through thatโฆ But at least as an end goal, because I think that to stay realist, the first step to reform Tirek is to fix his relation with his father.
So before writing this comment I read the corresponding comic again just to make sure, and that did confirm my first impression about it.
Lord Tirekโs situation doesnโt seem to be that similar to Diamond Tiaraโs. While she was under her motherโs pressure to gain control and power, King Vorak actually did quite the opposite: noticing his sonโs power and magic potential, he feared that he would use it to take over him, and tried his best to restrain it by ignoring it. (Yeah, thatโs both bad parenting and the wrong political decision)
Discordโs perception and interpretation might as well be slightly wrong. Possession of information doesnโt mean wisdom. Especially with Discord.
So thatโs why I think that Tirek doesnโt need that much to be proven that he doesnโt need to listen to the parental guidance he received (since he didnโt receive much more than โStay inside that damn castle!โ), but rather that in order to gain daddyโs attention, confidence and throne he doesnโt need to show him power (which would be quite counterproductive since Vorak fears it), but wisdom and skills to reign fair and at least keep the country in balance with the surrounding ones.
Which, interestingly, wouldnโt be that hard to him. Tirek always seems to be the smartest out the three โfrenemiesโ. He anticipates the problems, knows what he can or cannot do, and waits for the right moment to act.
He thought ahead in Frenemies, waiting for the others to fail at getting Grogarโs bell on their own and come back with experience and knowledge, instead of trying as well and exhausting himself for nothing.
In the grand Finale as well, he was the first to complain about the Mane 6 being still in the wild, while the other two didnโt care out of plot arrogance in order to let the Mane 6 have a plot rest so that they can have a chance to save the world.
So, to find someone with a situation he could relate to, I donโt really believe in Diamond Tiara. Iโm more thinking of the dragons. The poor ones didnโt have a chance to make themselves useful when you handled Chrysalis : ( I think itโs time they take their revenge >: ) !
More specifically, Iโm thinking of both Thorax and Ember: the question of balance between force and subtleness in leadership is asked in the episode Triple Threat, and I think itโs a great example in many ways. So maybe talking with them both could help him see clear through this.
And then, once calmed down and seeking less power and destruction, you let him in contact with the reformed others 2, and then Bang! Friendship! Both problems solved!
Actually, maybe we wouldnโt even need to disrupt Thorax and Ember in their respective kingdoms. As I said, Tirek is smart. Maybe he could figure that out on his ownโฆ
Actually, he probably already has! Maybe Discord is more wrong than we thought, and the problem is completely other! Alright, letโs start all over again! ^^
The reason Iโm pointing this out is that we can see in the comic that Tirek actually peeked once over a discussion between his parents, where his father verbalizes his worries. And this is something that Discord couldnโt, but we do know like so that Tirek is aware of his fatherโs fear of his power, and still he does continue seeking more.
Also, he looked quite teenagely rebellious about his father in the comic, claiming that he didnโt care about his reproaches. So much for family prideโฆ
So maybe he doesnโt seek his fatherโs approval at all, maybe he just wants power for another reasonโฆ
At this point I think weโre a little stuck in a loop because we still donโt know what that reason can be. And as you said, โif we're gonna figure out how Tirek can be reformed we need to know what motivates him in the first placeโ. Well at least I have no idea.
So here is what we have: a procedure to reform Tirek in both scenarios where he seeks the approval of his father because 1. he wants him to acquire more power or 2. he ignores him out of fear, and a giant hole consisting of the ignorance of all the reasons he would harness power while knowing that it scares his father, and thus a procedure to reform him in those cases.
I think I made too much thinking in a single morning to continue on. ^^โ Maybe Iโll come back to it later on my own but Iโm not sure.
What do you think?
I love this
0 likesDimond tiara the princess of... ReFoRmInG
2 likesDiamond Tiara = Pacifica Northwest
0 likesChange my mind
I think scorpion can reform tirek
1 likeSir can you please tell me how you do editing I am really interested in how to make them , please :(
2 likesI have a theory that Discord could possibly be older than Tirek Himself, from what Discord said about Tirek's Daddy Issues.
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In the comic where Tirek's dad showed up in, Discord actually appeared in the background. What he was doing there though is anyone's guess.
0 likes@Flufux which comic? i would like to read it. i love making theories.
0 likes@ArcheIsHere Fiendship is magic, issue number #2.
0 likes@Flufux with this fact, Discord could of met Grogar himself. Tirek said that he heard of legends of Grogar when he was young, At the scene where Discord was at the comic he looked the same as the present, this shows that he possibly was born as an adult and live a immortal life or he grew when Grogar was around and then live a immortal life.
0 likes@ArcheIsHere Possibly. I mean, if he actually met the original Grogar, then that would explain how he was able to impersonate him so well.
0 likes@Flufux Yes exactly, you see the problems with changelings when they disguise themselves, their pretty much a bad actor than Celestia. In order for their cover to say hidden they need to act like the original, think like the original. Discord did that, the only way to expose him is to take away his power.
0 likes@ArcheIsHere There is one problem with the idea that Discord is that old though, and that is the question of why he waited until the Tree of Harmony was fully grown (which happened long after the Pillars took the Pony of Shadows to limbo, and likely long after Grogar's reign) to take over Equestria and turn it into chaos?
0 likes@Flufux that i waa thinking of, he was in a council correct? with that fact tell me what kind of personality does Discord have from then and now. in the Past Discord was assosiated with a council, in the present he is now solo man show, maybe he felt caged and he had no freedom in the council, which could explain why he wanted freedom in the s4 finale.
0 likes@ArcheIsHere Hmmm...perhaps he was 'restricted' in some way before...or maybe hadn't grown as powerful as he would end up later at that point, or maybe he just wasn't as ambitious at the time?
0 likesOr maybe the writers just goofed up on the timeline entirely? I dunno.
@Flufux its Discord dont question it. but i am making alot of theories that Discord could be older than Grogar. and that last theory was possible, Discord indeed came to Equestria to have fun because he got bored. bored of what though? Thats the big question
0 likesDiamond Tiara is the answer to everything-
0 likesdiamond tiara, princes of sharing power. ok no๐
0 likesI think he has 2 backs cuz 1 is for magic and the other for food unless magic is his food then I'm clueless
0 likesI have a question, remember u talked about alicorns civilisation what if that alicorn civilisation is silver shull !u know where celestial and Luna said โa trip to silver shulls โ what if that is the home of Luna celestia ?
0 likesI can get that but Diamond Tiara was just a bully, she didnโt know much about friends she has always cared about doing things Spoiled rich did when she was a filly but I think Sunset Shimmer would be able to reform Tirek because Sunset Shimmer was evil and turned into a she-demon and took Twilightโs crown away and Iโm pretty sure her back story has to be the same as Tirekโs it would make a lot of sense they both wanted powers
0 likesThe three most evel villians are reforemed if ... that happens
1 likePony: appears on screen.
0 likesSW: Person.
Conspiracy tiiiiiiiime!
Wait a second....that music....*Gasp!* You used Tirek's villany music! ๐คฏ
And how does two ribcages work anyway.....how would you even know what to eat?
i hope the show still going please start season 10 please hasbro
0 likesSomeone is going to animate this
0 likesI'll put the Diamont Tiara as a test answer
0 likeswait Tirek has two chests does that mean he has two hearts?!
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probably not.
0 likesWhat about sombra D:<
0 likesEdit: which is what I would've said if we had a real backstory with him but we never got a good one, outside of the IDW comics
Daimond taira is not the answer it's starlight because she was stealing cutie marks for power
0 likesWho else said prince Zuko before he said diamond tiara???
0 likesCan you Also make a reforming video for king sombra?
0 likesHey Sawtooth waves please? Do a remix of the dazzlings
1 likeDiamond tiara REALYYYY!! how about we give the job to Scorpan?
0 likesYou could be my therapist and I will give you all my money ๐ฐ.
0 likes"Reforming Sombra" please... ๐
0 likesSaw you should make a discord server
1 likeDiamond tira world class villain reforner
1 likeWait what about king sumbra (just for fun)
2 likesDiamond tiara should be the princess of reforming like if you agree
1 likeYou know Reformed chrysalis in the in the left corner looks derby as freak in the in the capture of the beginning
0 likesWow this is the first time I've ever heard you laugh
0 likesi think Discord reformed Tirek
1 likeTwilight Sparkles? Bruh Diamond Tiara is the next saver
0 likesPlot twist: diamond tiara's mother married tirek's father
0 likesI just released ........
2 likesWho knows piggy? Well they have 2 coloured eyes And glowing eyes Is Tirek one?
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Idk
1 likeI honestly think it was gonna be his brother 0>0
1 likeI did not expect that
1 likeWow dimond tiara again
1 likethatโs a good idea
0 likesSome Pinkiepie torture would work too
0 likesTyrek has a long furby spine
0 likesHave you ever thought about doing a Steven Universe video๐ฅ please I wood love to see that please๐
1 likeReforming King Sombra??
0 likesThat saund good idea๐คฉ๐คฉ๐คฉ๐คฉ๐คฉ
1 likel think Diamond Tiara is super duper ๐
1 likeThen replace dr wolf
1 likeWe tie up loose ends
0 likesMabye cozy and Chryslerโs may help or his brother
0 likes# pacifica is diamond tiara confirmed?
0 likesFinally
1 likeWho the bleep is king Vorak?
0 likesWhy is everyone talking about diamond tiara!?
0 likeshow to help him...help him get ride or daddy issues...
0 likesBruh i thought it was trixie for a min lmao
0 likesInsert princess Diamond Tiara-
0 likesYeah I know good way to reform Tri Rec you just half to create a new villain to the show or summon one like Bill Cipher William Afton and also create a mixture of timelines of Gravity Falls and Five Nights at Freddy's Brandon Graham the fight Bill Cipher and then he cargo blah blah blah blah and their crap Time stuff later you and then there's going to be a full-on war between like I don't know like Five Nights at Freddy's and Bill Cipher I guess William afton's going to join ml turkeyville for a hot second and after that I lost to Astrid just all you have to do is Mexican ask timeline with My Little Pony just as well as also makes Gravity Falls that's banana timeline as well Five Nights at Freddy's timeline as well
0 likesWoW... Okay. Fair enough
0 likesI thought it was sunset shimmer
1 likeI thinked it will be his broter
2 likesBring back his brother
0 likesI think tirek needs to listen in my little pony season 4 he didn't listen
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To twighlight
0 likesSorry but Lord you know, cannot change, but Can I talk to you please
1 likefluttershy and starlight get out of here diamond tiara is now the new reform pony
0 likesWhan Chrysalis is reformed, can she still hang out with Fluffle Puff as she did in the old days?
0 likesand dont get any ideas beacuse im subscribed
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OOOOOOOOOH
0 likesTodoroki for tirek! daddy issues.
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oh wow, yeah actually, o.0
1 likeThis is kinda scary
0 likesOh my gosh her tirek's blive it now her for twilight sparkle's hungry for yuck pizza๐ต...................???
1 likeWhat thing can u find season 9 on?
1 likeHow to reform King sombra
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaah he kinda super dead now
0 likesInteresting.....
2 likesI ๐ you big brother BFF
0 likes100%
1 likeITS HEREEEE
0 likesI ๐ you
0 likesWHY IS IT HER
0 likesi was finding this
1 likeWhat happened to brony nations??
1 likeOh my god so u kinda listened to my theory omg yay first time
0 likesfluttercord
1 likeUmmmm what about king sombra
0 likesInteressante
0 likesShe is min
1 likeWhy there is no starlight glimmer in equestria girls and sunset shimmer in mlp
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Starlight actually becomes a human in the movie magic thing, and sunset becomes pony in forgotten friendship, you can find them on youtube and Netflix:D
1 likeI just realised I wasn't subscribes!!!!!! Also amazing vid
0 likeshmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [sigh] there is
0 likesGravity Falls
0 likesPerson PERSON!?!? U SURE PERSON IS THE RIGHT WORD HEHEHE๐๐๐๐คฃ๐คฃ
0 likesWhat about discord i always think itโs discord.
0 likesOh wow I thought it should be discord
0 likesWho's watching in September 2020?? :)
0 likesHahahahaha
0 likes๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
1 like2:32
1 likemeh same person
Smoot tresison
0 likesSeaking
0 likesPACIFICA
0 likesNext princess : diamond tiara
1 likeWhat kind of princess : princess of reforming villain
XD
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
0 likesBRUH
0 likesNOOOOOOOO
0 likesSawtooth look I find his the link
0 likesWhat!?!?
0 likesDaddy issuessss
0 likesDo you Quinn is playing a very
0 likesI thought it was discord for the last on now I get tricked again
0 likesI mean Diamond
0 likesDad have 2 lags
0 likesAre you okay
0 likestirek has a brother
0 likes๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
0 likesThis is amazing! I really love what you've done with Diamond Tiara's character. You really should make a fanfiction out of this!!
0 likesI like how just ONE throwaway line that gave Tirek even the smallest motive already opened the door to possible reformation.
0 likesI think Stygian would be good for reforming Tirek because they are actually pretty similar. Stygianโs friends betrayed him and Tirek brother betrayed him, all Stygian wanted was the pillars respect and all Tirek wanted was to be good enough for his dad, Stygian was weak and looked for power and Tirek is clearly weaker when he doesnโt have all that magic, and lastly Stygian would protect his power at all costs and Tirek would work really hard to get and keep his powers. Since Stygian and Tirek are so similar maybe Tirek would see that if someone whoโs like him can reform he can too and that thereโs a better life he could be living.
1 likeThatโs just me tho so idk๐คท๐ฝโโ๏ธ๐
Great video! I was wondering if you had any theory's on how Cadence got her wings or horn and which came first?
1 likeI literally checked your channel yesterday to see if you'd uploaded this video. ๐ So glad it's here!
0 likesBy the way, I'd totally love to see a team up with these newly reformed characters and their mentors handling new challenges. ๐
I've read the comic for tirek and if anything, he has anything other then family pride and always snuck out to his mentor. one day he went to a cave outside of the castle he lived in to find his mentor found a pony. he absorbed his mentor's powers and got the pony to bring him to equestria. his father did not want him to become what he did if I remember the story properly.
2 likesI think Princess Tiara would theoretically have a place in Twilight's School of Friendship. She could not only teach others the value of friendship, but help reform. That could be her full time job. This idea would play really well into your reforming theories.
0 likesJust discovered this channel
1 likeAnd what a discovery it was!
Hmm, an interesting theory overall. But if I can offer one tiny observation if all three are released from the stone at the same time (which they would have to be in order to keep them all separated), then it would probably help if he were to see the reformed Queen Chrysalis first, while Diamond Tiara is working on Cozy Glow. Reason being, near the end of Frenemies, Chrysalis was the one who reminded the trio of the "infection" of friendship. If she were in the full knowledge that friendship isn't the infection she fears it to be, and if he were to see that she has shed that fear, that would help his reformation far more than the advice of two little ponies, especially one who annoyed him while they were stuck in Tartarus together.
0 likesI would think that, as a similar power-chaser and villain from the past, dead set in the fact they thought they were doing the right thing and power-hungry to an extent they would bring everyone else down a notch, Starlight glimmer could reform Tirek both as her final task for Twilight, and because she not only would have the power to keep him in check, but also relate to him enough to be able to really talk to him, maybe get him to open up more about his dad and realize, in a very similar way, the path you chose in life can be backtracked, and it's never too late to make amends.
0 likesPlus I feel like she might be one of the only ones stubborn and determined enough to actually stick with it and not give up on him within the first week, especially if Diamond Tiara's hooves will be full trying to reform Cozy.
I think in some ways it would be interesting if it was Discord to help Tirek. They both have sought power through disorder. Tirek destroyed important things which held up pony society (buildings, crops, control of magic) and Discord interfered with any sense of stability by creating chaos wherever he went. Tirek introduced the idea of the two becoming friends in the past, but betrayed Discord. Then after his reform, Discord was able to fight Tirek and ensure his punishment. Fluttershy at one point seemed to seek safety more than any other pony was the one to reach out to Discord the most. So, he could in theory, try to help Tirek based on this idea. They don't have to become best buddies, but Discord being the one to extend his hand to friendship and at least steer him in the right direction would show his character development in a different way. (It wouldn't just be another way of creating temporary chaos that helps the mane six in the long run.)
0 likesPharynx makes perfect sense for queen Chrysalis and I can see a variety of options for Cozy Glow. One set of options could involve a group of individuals to hold her accountable because she's big on manipulation of others. (There are several choices for who could be in the group.) She is not hindered by social awkwardness or the need to always be seen as powerful by others, unlike the other two characters. In some ways it would be fitting if the group was not seen as powerful in general, but were able to keep her in check by making sure that what she said to one character lines up with what she said to the others.
Good job for keeping up with this reforming videos i really like them , i must say that in order for everything you said in this video and those others two happen we must ignore the comics because they also take some liberties that the series ignored later on, i must say that with those other two i had no much of an idea of how to reform them. Cozy Glow your idea is pretty good since she was not a bad pony for starter but she begins to corrupt herself later on, Chrysalis is a good idea
0 likesI have an idea of a spin off that also serves as a sequel using the young 6, my idea is that as the series centers around the adventures of the young 6 and making them solved some problems left without a solution (again ignoring the comics) by the original series like this three.
My idea is to use the one villain that was left behind King Sombra, making him the adoptive dad of a young kirin that will eventually join the Y6 main group as Spike or Stygian did with the M6 and the pillars but sharing a leading role with the others, the idea with Sombra is: first use his power to disguised as a kirin to resemble his son, as the series progress Sombra start making his change due to him seeing his son making true friends and with interactions with others in the cast, later Discord finds out and begins to watch over him, next as the main cast has problems that beginning
I always had the idea that to reform Tirek, his brothert Scorpain would be the one to do it. In Twilight Kingdom when Tirek gave Discord the necklace and when Discord brought the necklace up to Tirek after he was betrayed, Tirek called his brother a traitor which shows that even though a 1000 years have passed, his brother turning against him still hurt and maybe them reconciling would help reform Tirek.
0 likesI love your channel! Keep up the good work!
0 likesProbably a bit nitpicking on my behalf, but out of the three, I think that Tirek is probably the most reasonable and the most willing to actually sit down and have a talk with someone about this. Yes, he does have that anger issue, but itโs only if his buttons are pushed. Chrysalis looked more ready to murder than have a nice chat unless you have the same motives as her, and Cozy Glow is hardest to reform because of her young age and potentially her mentality. Also, I think Diamond would sooner run away screaming if we made her try to talk to Tirek, so my best guess is that either weโd put Discord in or maybe have an older pony who went through something similar to Diamond Tiara to try and talk to Tirek and have less of a chance that theyโd run away because theyโre probably bolder. Thatโs just in hindsight, I just donโt think itโs a good idea to risk having the potential pony who could help reform Tirek run away crying for mommy in fear because of his size shrugs
0 likesI think king vorakโs expectations include strength because he appears so weak I think this because in some of the season nine episodes he was seen wanting to appear stronger so that probably had something to do with that kinda like embers father thinking that a good leader needed to be strong
0 likesI think Zecora would be a fun pick. She was once an outsider, so she understands both ponies and non ponies. Perhaps her along with Tempest Shadow, who was betrayed by the Storm King. Tempest would see from his point of view as a former villain who felt like friendship was pointless. Zecora would be able to show him that the magic he steals still will never amount to the magic in nature and in actions.
0 likesAlso, I just think he wouldn't be willing to listen to a child simply because he's a stubborn goat... centaur.
I think some of his reformation is going to have to involve his brother Scorpan (who may well be King Scorpan by this point, Tirak was in Tartarus a long time) - G1 Scorpan was the crown prince of his country and if thatโs the case here Tirak might have been trying to prove himself to King Vorak because King Vorak actually favored Scorpan as the next king. Scorpan is apparently still alive because an early draft of My Little Pony: The Movie had him appear as the original owner of the Storm Kingโs staff. And for that Applejack might be helpful, because of her long-standing rivalry with Big Mac over who should inherit Sweet Apple Acres she knows exactly what itโs like to lose the kingdom you wanted to rule to your brother.
0 likesI think there is one more guy who can help Tirek - this is his Scorpan. Remember, when he came to princesses to tell them about Tirek's plans? Scorpan is a pony's friend, but if he is really good, he probably still love his brother and wants him to come back. Princess Twilight could call for Scorpan and ask him to help Tirek. He both know almost everything about each other and ths is the main thing. Scorpan knows all about their father.
0 likesBut I'm too lazy to write something more, so here is my theory.
P. S. I'm sorry if I have some mistakes in my text, it's because English isn't my mother language.
I can see all this happening, but I also see Tirek going into exile after learning the truth on a quest for self discovery. Becoming a desperado to complete strangers and building a bigger family along the way.
0 likeswell even if he gets reformed, i wonder whats about his current form. he looks and is very weak thin. shouldnt he be able to get at least some power to increase his streangth a bit, like in some of the middle episodes of season 9? take it as a kind of test, he gets some power to get back is old original form but he has to use it wisely and for good!
0 likesI agree with your point, but I think instead of Diamond Tiara again, maybe Tirek would connect better with Sunburst considering he has the same relationship with his parents and he already has magic power to rival some of the most powerful unicorns in Equestria. He's also more mature and introverted than Diamond Tiara, just like Tirek.
0 likesIf DT reforming Cozy Glow isn't gonna happen in the future, I think DT reforming Tirek should. Because I think he'd take an adult more seriously than a kid. And that could also mean that he could take Cozy Glow more seriously as an adult as well. DT reforming Cozy Glow and a kid makes sense because of them being peers in that sense. As adults, they would be more representative of peers if they're adults.
0 likesThere is a problem with this reforming theory, it assumes that Tirek's father Vorak is alive, or was during the time he was origionally imprisoned, and pressured him to follow his path. For all we know Vorak is dead, perhaps of natural causes, and that he left a legacy of being a powerfull leader, wich caused Tirek to feel he had alot to live up to and in his mind the only thing that could either surpas or be equivalent to is siezing the whole of equestria's magic.
0 likesOh god, if Diamond Tiara is the solution to reforming TWO of them, I could imagine Tirek & Cozy Glow fighting over her; just like, "She's MY best friend, not YOURS!"
0 likesI don't know for Chrysalis and Cozy Glow there may be a possibility they have nothing to do lose if possible. However for Lord Terek he has both his daddy issue plus betrayal by his brother Scorpan bubbling in this pot of revenge a old saying is blood thicker than water he seems someone who would gamble on evil at any cost and reform would be a lose rather than a win but Sawtooth your reform do have good merit since friendship won out on revenge in the series., Great site on your amazing music, art, analysis BroHoof
0 likesAt first I was like "So Tirek the centaure who doesn't give a heck about pony would be reformed by one?" And at the end I was like "Oooh ! Ok Chrysalis and Cozy Glow , the only "friends" he believe in!" It's was really weird for me to think about him being reformed by a pony but I understand the other two
0 likesI think if you want to reform tirek...you need...every six of them...I mean reformed villians, like you said if Clozy Glow and Crystalis are refirmed then they can help...what about Discord? Luna? Tempest Shadow (Fizzlepop Berrytwist)? and lastly Starlight Glimmer? They all can reform terek togheter...think about it.
0 likesI was reading the comments and realized: Triek can just take their powers. Any time he wants. I think before you can reform him you have to find a way to stop him from using his power. Because I bet as soon as he leaves stone he will try to suck up all the magic in equestria and you wouldnโt be able to reform him.
0 likesI think the best way to teach Tirek that friendship is the cure or whatnot would be to find someone who would be able to humble him. Someone or somepony to get him off his high horse, so to speak. Someone like Fluttershy. Ok, maybe not her specifically, but somepony else. I think the ones best suited for the job would be Cozy Glow and Chrysalis (post-reformed). They're really the only characters he's had any positive bond over (besides Scorpan). If they get reformed, then it's quite likely that he may follow in their hoof prints. If possible, maybe the Mane 6 can find Scorpan again, and he'll be able to help as well. His dad, if not already dead, I'd imagine would be less likely to follow his son. I'd imagine a 40/60 chance of it happening.
0 likesI think this is perfectly designed
0 likesits nice that all these villans are reformed
1 likeWho did your oc? It's really impressive
0 likesWhat about Stygian he seeked power aswell and wanted to PROVE HIMSELF aswell as tirek but he learned that friendship is the way and maybe Stygian can teach him that too.
0 likesI am definitely making a series out of this:
0 likesChrysalis- metamorphosis (she's a bug)
Cozy- checkmate (she has a rook as her cutiemark)
Tirek- curse (he absorbs magic)
Check my channel out, please!
I'll let you know when I release the videos
Ur literally making the villains from team mates to BFFs. And thats......
1 likeAMAZING!!!!
Well then. Guess I'll say ALL HAIL DIAMOND TIARA THE NEW PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP
1 likeI think that is a really good thing to reform tirek like that
0 likesYeah........!
1 likeEverybody deserves a second chance ๐
The key to reforming it is..gonna surprise you
0 likesThat Dimond Tiara
0 likesShe went from making me screech from pure anger and annoyance...
To making me so happy I want to screech
Okay my question is
0 likesWhere are you gonna keep them from running away? Cause tirek is being reformed last as the other get reform which might take some time
Tirek needs to be reformed by his own friends
0 likesI think the worse thing about this...is this idea that every villain has to be saved...a tragic good person gone bad story would be refreshing for once..give it a break.
0 likesHonestly, all three are beyond forgiveness.
0 likesEspecially the bug horse
There's only 1 tiny problem with this idea.
0 likesTirek's family ARE ALL DEAD!
Tirek is only still alive because he was in Tartarus for all those centuries.
He is over a thousand years old, because he was around BEFORE Star Swirl and the Pillars went to limbo and Luna went Nightmare Moon.
His brother, father and gram gram have been dead for a VERY LONG time.
I'm pretty sure his home isn't even around anymore.
Klugetown is probably the last remnant of it.
Most of the reasoning works, but it should be mentioned to him that trying to live up to his father's views is also not worth it since he's already dead.
Diamond Tiara might become the new Princess of friendship at the rate.
0 likesIt got me when he cracked up while saying diamond tiara๐๐๐
0 likesTirek can inhale and exhale at the same time.
1 likeThank you for making a reforming tirek video but I'm quite surprise that you choose diamond tiara again to reforming him and cozy glow and how come you didn't put any kind of emoji like you did with the others.
0 likesDiamond tiara
1 likeThe princess of reforming
So basically you want tirek to follow the same redemption path as prince zuko of the fire nation ?
0 likesi think your idea is great but i have some ideas just like the changelings were reformed they learned that the don't have have to feed off love they can share it also the mane six can help but kinda like discord i only think rainbow dash should when she had to make a choice have have dream to join the shadow bolts or save her friends she picked save her friends i think terik should have the choice save someone he loves or pick all the power in pony vile h
0 likesWow I like the idea, reminds me of a comment I saw on a part of frenemies saying โawwwe look theyโre a family!โ Fits nicely. But in your next theory...
0 likesPlease donโt try and troll us, itโs gotten a bit old
Let's just hope Vorak and Scorpan are still alive after so long...
0 likesPMCE THE PLOT TWIST HAPPENED I LAUGHED KNOWING HOW IT WAS SO UNEXPECTED I LOVE THESE
1 likePerhaps you should do one for king sombra now that you are done with this
0 likesAmazing!!!
0 likesSawtooth waves laughed when he said diamond tiara is key to reform tirek
0 likesInb4 Diamond Tiara was secretly a changeling all along, making her better for the job to reform Chrysalis as well.
0 likesTempest Shadow or Stigian (however you spell it)
0 likesThey seem better fits
this is all I need to write a book about the villains futures
0 likesNot gonna lie, when you said DT it fucking killed me. You do make a lot of good points though, good video!
0 likesDiamond Tiara, the princess of reforming
0 likesDiamond Tiara will NOT reform any villain i saw her eyes carefully in the episode Crusaders Of The Last Mark she had cruelty in her eyes so if she goes to reform any villain she will raise them even more evil so those two will destroy Everything plus Chrysalis
0 likesI had a weird theroy after watching a video about chrysalis also i could see this actually working also the rib cage thing XD
0 likesi love your interesting vids
0 likeschrysalis is sooooooo pretty!!
0 likesI agree he has a interesting story ark
0 likesI think luna would've been a better pony to help him
0 likesHere is a random question no one wanted me to ask. If friendship is magic would tirek bulk up if he get friends
0 likes4:50 I think this is what do you recognize someone before you go for your house to go backs and two pairs of lungs
0 likesIf three of them will reform, i bet they will sing 0w0
0 likesYes He has to reform
0 likesSatooth: diamond tiara will reform tirek
0 likesMe:SHE'S A LITTEREL CHILD
satooth:*brings in cosy glow and chrysalis*
Me: Phew i thought you wanted a child to reform a thousands of year old pony ๐ฅด
But what can we do to reform dear ol King Sombra ๐ค maybe Diamond tiara can help lol
0 likesnext question is... does he have 2 hips or 2 sets of shoulders?
0 likes2:30 why did i laugh at that as hard as i did
0 likesIf only we could get Zuko in here. Just imagine what heโd have to say to Tirek about fathersโ expectations
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That would get pretty awkward for zuko, unless he turns into a pony
0 likesThat'd be pretty funny to watch though. Him reacting to turning into a pony, or instead if he stayed human he could be reacting to randomly appearing in a world full of ponies, and everyone else would have entertaining reactions to seeing a human
0 likesMe waiting for sawtooth to come up with a theory on grogar maybe how to reform him or a history of grogar
0 likesTirek trying to please Vorak
0 likesHordak trying to please Horde Prime
Huh.
He is the best YouTuber ever!!
1 likei think only scorpan can reform tirek
0 likesSawtooth:saying its diamond tiara.
0 likesMe:I thought you were gonna say its his brother
Diamond tiara might as well be the Princess and reforming villains ๐
1 likeSo who the heck is king vorak? Time to research!
0 likesMaybe even princess Luna could help reform him
0 likesChrysalis should have bug like eyes like all the other reformed changlings
0 likesNow I want to meet the dad
0 likesNext video: unreformed reformed Twilight
1 likeOF COURSE ITS HER AGAIN BUT WOULD SHE BE EAGER TO MEET A CENTAR ???
1 likeI think its a good idea ๐๐๐
0 likesNext video....
0 likesYO SCREW MY THEORY WITH THE QUEEN, ITโS ALL DIAMOND TIARA, JUST DT, SHEโS ALWAYS THE ANSWER TO ALL OF MY THEORIES NOW-
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-
I didn't think it would be dimond tiara the one I thought it would be discord but it does make sense
0 likesI was half expecting you to say Zuko
0 likesTwo words:
0 likesKing Sombra.
WAAAAAAAAT NO WAY THATS HOW YOU REFORM TIREK
0 likesYou can do reforming king sombra and storm king?
1 likeNext Friday: Reforming King Vorack
0 likesOr... You know... His Brother?
1 likeI donโt think diamond is the key it is discord think about it discoed turned into stone to so does tirek he could tell tirek how fluttershy reformed him and again no evil queen to stop tirek he would reform
0 likesI was waiting soooooosooooooooo much for this video
1 likeFinally the series is over! Its an OK series, but I'm still waiting for a Pony Life rant! Or a "Does Tempest Have a Cutie Mark" theory. Dude! Give us TheBronyNotion charm! Just bring us something new... (and nothin with changelings k?)
0 likesAlso can u do a tutorial of what apps and stuff u use for yt
1 likeI thought it would be Luna
0 likesNot Diamond Tiara
I though tierks brother is the one but i guess thatโs reasonable
0 likesAnd that my friend's, is why my little pony, is friendship is magic
0 likesWhAt AbOuT hIs bRoTHeR? He can reform him with them!
0 likesI was thinking maybe StarLight- or Sunset
0 likesDiMOnd TiArA
0 likesThen a few seconds later,
you might think Iโm going, but Iโm 100% serious.
Me: WoT?
I thought it would be Princess Luna honestly
0 likesDiscord : There's only one creature that can help him get over his daddy issues.....
0 likesDiscord : Me
Mane 6,CMC and Starlight : Diamond Tiara
Discord : Diamond Tiara ?!! Seriously ?!!!!!
Diamond tiara again!? Are you serious!? What!?
0 likesNext episode reforming the storm king
0 likesDiamond tiaras was reformed by the crusaders so i thing cosy glow and trex can be reformed by them only
0 likesYou should just used Trixie and the his friends
0 likesWell there is a better way to reform lord terek and I know someone how can reform him and that is sunset shimmer
0 likeswhat if discord did discord has always wanted power he mastivious but still changed and cozy glow wanted power for difrent reasons so they can both explain saw tooth last but not least luna ...she wanted power of jealousy if they can all embrace why they could change him why i thought of discord look he has bean wantin power why because he's dishormany his past was him created for one thing difrent then dishormony hormony he's part of it think of pinkie pie as a nother element u wonce sed pinkie is like discord pinkie is a elemtal pony shy has some of those wierd powers of discord witch means she to could help reform him i mean
0 likesIs this gonna be the hardest?
0 likesyou know what I think ranbowDash should be a princess too beacouse she is the only one who made the legend came true of the sonic rainboom
0 likesFinally!
0 likes"Pacific-
0 likesDiamond tiara"
Ok, I was expecting it to be Discord for real this time lol
0 likesJesus, Diamond Tiara should become a f**king therapist! Jesus!!
0 likesill guess we'll see in gen 5
0 likesI have a question I need a theory for it sooooo please sawtooth read this comment!!!!!
1 likeSo in the last episode of season 9 aka the last episode of mlp we see twilight helping someone with Friendship. But.....at the end of that episode when the mane six unite we see a filly with pinkie.....for some reason this filly resembles pinkie pie now I don't remember her name but I doooo remember pinkie saying this "Sorry I am late I couldn't find a babysitter for ( I don't remeber) cheese.....could it be this filly is......... pinkies child !!!!! I have no idea if this could be true...please sawtooth find some info about this to see if it's true.... sorry I don't remember the filly's first name. Love your vids!!!๐๐๐
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I am gonna reply and like my own comment cuz no one else will :3
0 likesDiamond Tiara Watching These: ๐๐๐
0 likesWhat crystalis used to be when she's not evil??๐๐๐
0 likesWe could make some together
0 likesBecause I'm a nerd I recognise KSP space music :P
0 likesI thought it was going to be trixie because tirek only cares about power and trixie only cares about fam sort of
0 likesGive a plas for saw toth wave ๐๐๐๐๐
0 likesHow about reforming Drago Bludvist
0 likesI am a big fan of you
0 likesSo discord isn't made by someone because his dad is king Vorak.
0 likesHow are you going to reform sombra
0 likesWell shit I thought you were gonna say Luna.
0 likesReform sombra pls
0 likesoOo yes true true Diamond Tiara is the Key lol
0 likesI was thinking Luna because she had to work to celesta and then she went crazy. Lol idk
0 likesI donโt think that will happen.
0 likesDang I thought he was going to say Pinkie Pie
0 likesOh no another Zuko...
0 likesSo there is a better way to reform the villains sooo here thorax and Dimond tiara are the answers so how about this we teach cozy glow and therek and then the queen so that is good cause cozy glow and terek are very dangerous soo therw
0 likesOr sawtooth waves
0 likesgood but we can see that in tv
0 likesthat's not a ribcage that is goin protection
0 likesWhat about Starlight Glimmer
0 likesI like it
0 likesSound strategy my man /)
0 likesClose one you almost referenced gravity falls
0 likesThat got cheesy-
0 likesAh whatever its a show about pink ponies.
I can't wait to next Friday
0 likesNext video is scorpan still alive or tirek killed scorpan because if tirek exist then shouldn't scorpan exist
0 likesWhat's happen with King Sombra if he be live??
0 likesOmg it makes sense
0 likesI think the ๐ is trixie
0 likesshe dose have powers like discord so if she a not eviel with power like that what if discord have a elament to but a good one how does this help reform him proves that discord is a lesson lerner and can help ok get why didnt u think of it that way
0 likesCool
0 likesI forgot that you didn't have 1M, YOU SHOUL HAVE 1M >:(
0 likes4:13 called it
0 likes#Reform
1 likeWait Wait Wait...PACIFICA! From gravity falls?
0 likeswait- Gravity Falls AND FiW references?????
0 likesI love you so much ๐๐๐
0 likesSo was tireks parents a actualy don't know maybe a horse? And a goat or a man?????????????????or a bull I just don't now? ๐
0 likesWhereโs the king sombra episode?
0 likesI think you and rainbow dash should hangout sometime
0 likesOooo finally you uplodid this!!!
0 likesThis was made 8hours ago Iโm 0o0 IM LATE
0 likesWait if a changeling went into the human world would they still have holes?
What about vegeta in dragon ball
0 likesthere is maybe another way
0 likesI thought it would be discord cuz u know they uhh... used to be friends??
0 likesI miss you please forgive me
0 likesI found the bronies, nice
0 likesFrIeNdS~
0 likesOh I donโt know how about smidge from my little pony you know the guy who are trapped in the black shadow thing I want to give a friend in the old main 6 Ha how about that guy
0 likesWhat about discord but don,t know his parents hmmm...
0 likes:o
0 likesThis is not a gravity falls channel
0 likesWhat's!!!๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฒ
0 likesChirsailis has like to Zombra to Terik this girl want a man really bad maybe but he first episode that discord pertended to be the ram she was standing right next to Zombra
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i did really bad spelling
0 likesand terik does not where shoes!
0 likesHi like you should like everyone's reforming picture put you doing show t-rex
0 likesPost more videos early
0 likesUse p luna
0 likesAnd make some animations
0 likesPls change tirek's look it is so bad helllllllpppppp him this guy don't know what is he doing
0 likesDo you want about why are you in different episodes are you deaf and one of the episodes you had a horn one of the episodes of wings one of the episodes you had a horn and wings one of the episodes you only had well you donโt have anything to you you were a regular pony you you actually didnโt do a thing that was in and do you want about a non-pony I donโt want about a pony that that that turned evil after she found out that she wasnโt a real pony she was that you have to find out when my next message
1 likeu put seaking lol
0 likesSEREUSLY I DON'T KNOW HOW U DID THIS COS IT JUST DIDN'T AD UP
0 likesBad seed
0 likesHino janger vs. Estรก porra
0 likesStop with my little pony theories
1 likeOne : It is MLP
Two : It is theories
Three : My sister is addicted to ur channel now
Disliking the vid
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@Sawtoothwaves
0 likesPlz start uploading something else or I will report
Omg again diamond againnn
0 likesBURN
0 likesWho is scorpion
0 likesIโm Alcorn
0 likeso.O
0 likesyou crazy
0 likesbut Tirek could just think dimond tiara is a kid I should not listen toher
0 likesThe 3 companies that reform are amazing. I never knew that you can reform the three villains of Equestia could be reformed.
1 likeI honestly just teared up! I simply adore these ways of reforming the trio! To my heart this is now canon! โคโคโค
0 likesIntresting and so so true. Well I can't wait to see what the fandom does with your insights. On how to help them become better or how ever they take the story they write.
0 likesI actually thought you were going with Luna on this one. Her story of feeling overshadowed by a greater royal presence and needing to do anything to take her own spotlight might resonate.
0 likesI was thinking sunset shimer would be a possible way to reform Tirek for the reason that they both wanted power, yes their stories are different but they had the same goal but since sunset has a role in the human world and by leaving it she can't help defend it from more villains that use equestrian magic her world would technically be in danger if she left to reform tirek besides no one pony would know how long it could take to reform him so many sunset would not be able to help but still its an idea
1 likeI agree with this theory. This video you made was honestly beautiful, the set and tone of the video that is.
0 likesI am very curious about Scorpan. Scorpan could be an invaluable piece in the puzzle of reforming Tirek. At some point, no matter how one would go about redeeming Tirek, he would reach the point of "My father isn't worth it" and no matter how toxic oneยดs family members might be it would still hurt. Having Scorpan there would help him think of reforming as maybe getting a chance to fix things with his brother.
0 likesI love your vids sawtooth, if these villans got reformed that would leave, I think, one unreformed villain........ King Sombra! I would love to see you ideas on how to refom this villian
1 likeThe biggest problem with this theory is that assuming once Tirek finds true friendship, and his motive's removed, he'll change. I don't think it'll make his personality or moral alignment change much. But the resolution of his issues and finding a new family in the Trio might give him the strength to face going back home.
0 likesYou could also do Babs seed for Cozy glow. Babs did also do some 180 turn after realizing diamond tiara and silver weren't the greatest friends and she too wanted power over those she once bonded with.
0 likesI agree, Diamond Tiara does have the right mindset to help Tirek, but another choice could be Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst, who also had parent problems. They both left the town angry and annoyed at their parents, maybe they could show Tirek how to reconcile with his father, and how they could compromise over what is best.
0 likesI somehow think that theory is probubly the best theory we are ever gonna get for the mlp fim series. Before hearing the idea that Tirek can still be reformed and who would be an ideal "mentor" into reforming Tirek, I saw Tirek as more like what most anime villains I have seen and heard of would be like. As in their origin was either;
0 likes1) The loss of someone they love SO much
2) They went through a lot of heartbreaking misadventure in one go and then end up having not much time to live (ex. They lose their job, their home, and their family and then get cancer all in a short amount of time).
3) Their whole life was similar to, in not worse than, Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer
4) (in Tirek's case) having a severe relationship problem with their family.
At the same time they would show that they are willing to risk anything just to have all the power of existence. In other words, I honest first saw Tirek as more like a villain who would make his last words be something more like "ON MY HONOR! I PROMISE I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL AND LIVE AT ALL COST!" if he got into a losing situation that was more like what they show in most anime (especially Yu-Gi-Oh) all the time.
I agree diamond shower could definitely help but I think the help of Trixie or starlight might be good as well considering both of them at one point or another trying to seek and find more power even when they succeeded they found out they were flaws with this and eventually sufficed to friendship
0 likesHi Sawtooth Waves,
2 likesHave you considered the MLP FIENDship is Magic comics? Iโm not sure how much the comics apply to the actual show, since the Season 9 premier portrays King Sombra as totally black-and-white with no close relationships (i.e. Radiant Hope). However, since King Vorak is apparently canon, Iโm assuming that the issue revealing Tirekโs backstory is applicable.
In FIENDship is Magic Issue 2, King Vorak discouraged stealing Pony magic and imprisoned Tirekโs mentor Sendek the Elder for doing so. I donโt believe Vorak would have wanted his son to do the things heโs done over those past hundred years. The issue ends with Tirek vowing to overthrow his father, implying that he was driven by a desire for power which may have been solidified by Sendek (perhaps Tirek even viewed him as a martyr of a sort).
I think Tirekโs relationship with Vorak is more based on resentment for conflicting ideals, though perhaps Tirek does want his father to respect him.
Honestly, I think your idea about the family element could be on the money, but I actually think that Twilight might actually be better suited for helping Tirek with his rehabilitation. Twilight is a total perfectionist, and before she was even concerned with self-actualization, she based her whole life around seeking approval from from authoritative mentor figures, i.e. Celestia and Starswirl the Bearded. Twilight unfailingly took Celestia and Starswirlโs words as scripture, even when she knew the facts didnโt align with them or it went against her own moral judgement. Perhaps Tirekโs redemption arc could even feature both Twilight and Tirak admitting and accepting that sometimes people they respect, even people you love and trust can misguide or even take advantage of you. That might not sound like a plausible issue for the show to cover, but in Part 2 of the Season 7 finale, they did actually discuss this exact topic when a self-assured Starswirl refuses to consider Twilightโs ideas. Perhaps this redemption arc could even conclude with an affirmation that โin order to earn respect you must not only be stand up to someone else you respect, but openly acknowledge your own faults. True friends are willing to honestly point out what they are doing wrong, acknowledge their own wrong doings, and learn from the mistakes they madeโ.
This is just me projecting my own ideas and honestly, I donโt think it would really work. People who live for the pursuit of power spend their whole lives trying to fill a cup with no bottom. If Tirekโs journey is anything like we saw in Breaking Bad, his lust for power would likely be so deeply imbedded that I donโt think there is anything else he wants to do. I donโt think he would want anything to do with his actual family and vice versa, but I do think that if Tirek can let go of his obsession with power in favour of a new family (i.e. Chrysalis and Cozy Glow), I think his future could be opened up wide.
If I may refer you to a wise, if not somewhat clichรฉ, saying, โThere will never be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power.โ
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Iโm sorry this comment is so long, I just really wanted to make my point.
0 likesI love this tirek is one of my favorite character in my little pony heโs so amazing I love centaurs their my favorite mythological creature ever ๐
1 likeI'm not even a brony but I adore your videos man. The fandom is awesome and really strong. You guys are FABULOUS ngl
0 likesawesome theory, awesome video, but one thing. what if king vorak would be disapointed in who tirek is NOW? what if tirek went home and told his father what he did? maybe that would be the key to reform tirek, his father being furious with his evil deeds
0 likesI can't even describe my reaction when he said Diamond Tiara... Again. :p But in all seriousness, I really liked this theory. Although, if it were me, I think I'd change it a bit. We know from when we were first introduced to Tirek that he doesn't value friendship. Discord had just as much in common with Tirek as Diamond Tiara, and even when Discord literally shoved their friendship in Tirek's face, he still didn't care. Going off of his need to live up to his father's expectations, I think the key lies not in Diamond Tiara, but actually in Spoiled Rich. I think for Tirek specifically, he doesn't need to see someone else just like HIM. He needs to see someone just like HIS DAD in order to truly understand that he doesn't need the approval of horrible people.
0 likesGood theory, but I have one thing first. So you said that Diamond Tiara is the key to reforming Cozy Glow and Tirek, which you explained quite well, but I still don't understand. I'm just wondering how she can reform two villains at once. Does she work on Cozy first and do Tirek after or the other way around? Maybe Silver Spoon could be of help to her since she can't do two villains by herself. Just to let you know, I agree with your theories, but like always, there are still things to be considered.
0 likesOk, I know this is a stretch, but you should totally do a bonus King Sombra reforming video, I know he refused to work with the others and got defeated, it's still kinda interesting to look at the 'what if's
0 likesI just wanted to say. Twilight... IS USELESS. I get she is the princess of friendship (and a little bit of a dictator cough *cough*) but like if she was the princes of friendship, why does she need to be reminded over and over what friendship is. Even in these fan made stories like the โdaughter of discordโ she just goes straight to banishment but when friendship I shown to save the day she says sheโs learned something from them and is proud of them showing the mAGiC oF fRiEnDsHiP. Maybe celestia made a mistake๐ค
1 likeNot only do I think Dimond Tiara could help, but so could Luna. Think about it, Not only was Scorpan the issue, but he resented his brother as well. Who also resented their sibling? Luna. Who thought their sibling was overshadowing them and wasn't allowing their power to shine? Luna. So yeah, I agree that Dimond Tiara can help with Tirek's Daddy Issues, but Luna can help with the Sibling Rivalry as well. Now whether or not his brother is still alive is unknown, but if he was, Luna could help Tirek with the reconciliation with the two brothers. Just my thoughts ^_^.
0 likesThat idea kinda reminds me of what happened to Baron Zemo in Avengers Assemble. We see that Zemo has always tried to live up to his father and gain his respect, but his father was abusive and constantly put him down. Cap eventually convinced Zemo his father wasnโt worth getting respect from and Zemo turned on him. Ironically, this action earned Zemo the respect of his father, but as Zemo said by that point โyet I no longer careโ.
0 likesFunny coincidence: In Bionicle, one of the Rahkshi breeds is named Vorahk. They can absorb physical strength from their enemies and use it for themselves.
0 likesIt could be also like when cozy glow and chriysilas talk to him he goes "you two are weak we were better when we had the power you two are useless" and he runs off and then they get attacked by giant monster things or something and tirek thinks about what they said and he hears screaming and he sees they are stuck or something and he saves them and they say "u saved us thank you tirek" and feels a feeling he has never felt before and he agrees with them and then he accepts their friendship
0 likesI would have loved to see king vorak in season 9, maybe him recognising his strength and respecting him.
0 likesI think stygian would be great to talk to die terik. He was over come with not having enough power so he saught out power to prove his worth, much like terik. He got ultimate power but at what cost? He lost his actual friends and only caused harm to where he lived. Stygian could teach terik that power isn't what you need to prove yourself.
0 likesYou have the best theories! And are super funny thank you for theses theories about things that havenโt been solved
0 likesCan you think of anyone else who can help reform these guys
1 likeI think u r right. The way to reform Tierek is having Diamond Tiara and his other friends or allies say this is the way friendship is the cure to ending power and stuff.
0 likesSawtooth, I would very much like it if you solved the mystery of the princesses floating hair, I mean how does it just float like that?! Please solve this in your next vid
1 likeSeeing Tirek turn into a good guy, it may work great video dude
0 likesI agree with you but does Terik have to look old all the time because I think there's a drawback in your ideas.
0 likesGreat video BUT I don't really agree wanting to prove himself to his father. I don't know why, but I just have a nagging feeling that it's something else. I'm the comic Fiendship is Magic (totally recommend) king vorak said he was scared of tirek. I'm not saying that your theory is wrong, and that vorak wasn't disappointed in tirek, but I just a nagging feeling that something isn't right...
1 likeI loved this!
0 likesIs it possible to reform sombra?
0 likesI mean if discord can literally revive him once im sure he could do it again. So maybe he can be the fourth reformed villain from the league of grogar
I know itโs not mlp related but I wish toffee from star vs the forces of evil had a redemption . Would you be able to have one for him if you have seen the show?
0 likesI think Scorpan might have affected Vorak somehow. These brothers went after Equestria together, after all
0 likesi still think hed make a good adviser to Twilight on maters concerning Magic before and/or beyond equestria
0 likesHonestly I think Tirek will steal magic once he is free
0 likesI think diamond tiara is more important than the show tells us
0 likesYou ever noticed how tirek and (hordak?) are *siblings* but they are different creatures. What if there father was someone who adopted lost kids/creatures and raised them to take over equestria just like Prime did in She Ra. This is very far fetched but hey
0 likesI would honestly thought you would have said twilight and diamond tiara both. They both went through things similar like twilight's need to impress Celestia and we'll diamond tiaras parent situation obviously.
0 likesI think Starlight Glimmer is a better choice, cause all she wanted was power and to show off she has it, also her past was that her best childhood friend showed her up unknowingly, by showing how much power he had, so she should show Tirek that power is not everything but that friendship can fill that hole, and when she does that he notices that she's right and he reforms. But that is just my opinion, your idea is fine. Hope you notice and heart me.
0 likesAnd then Tirek adopts Cozy Glow, marries Chrysalis and opens gym with Iron Will. Uncle Sombra visit sometimes, while he is not busy trying to take over Crystal Empire (Starlight and Twilight reformed him, but dude needs a hobby) , and Grogar is confused why do they call him 'grandpa' when he actually DOES returns
0 likesDiamond tiara wouldn't reform tirek. One because she doesn't have enough backbone for it. Two she would likely be a victim of tirek's magic consuming rampage. The only one I think who could reform tirek would be spike and discord. I know that sounds far fatched but here me out. Spike has always know what it was like to be weak and pathetic when it comes to his own race. No one treated him like a fellow dragon until he was able to show friendship in his homeland. Spike found inner strength in this journey as well as empathy for his race. Discord would be needed in tirek's reformation because he actually knows about his past. This could lead both spike and discord taking tirek to the dragon lands for a lesson in friendship. Perhaps this could allow tirek to feel confident in who he is and well as deal with his desired to affirmed by others.
0 likesI love your idea on how to reform the villainies but I have a good one to like 1st let them do something good why not wait put out let me rephrase that very deep 1st let them do something bag then let them do something good see which 1 felt better and then which every 1 felt better that's 1 they take if its the evil to go back to stone if its the good they go make more friends and here it goes back with his people but I don't even know tyreke stad was a king I don't even know of that tyreke was a Prince or that his I don't even know who his father was and I certainly day know who king Baltimore was when I king while this I can't say that word right but anyway I hope you take my idea into consideration
0 likesWhen I saw this I was like, YES itโs finally here!! LOL ๐
1 likeIf the whole point of ribs is to protect lungs, does that mean that Tirek has 4 lungs?
0 likesGreat theory and all but wouldnโt this put too much pressure on diamond? Like if I was a recovering bratty little girl I would freak out if I was expected to reform two of Equestrias greatest villains but idk maybe with time it would just happen naturally
0 likeshi sawtooth,
0 likesi like your idea but i think somepony else can help too
and that pony is.... coco pommel!
she had been manipulated and put down by suri until she realised its not everypony for themselves. she could help tirek understand this maybe.... idk though.
I thought you were going to say either Starlight or Stygian, but Diamond Tiara is fine by me
0 likesDiamond tiara is like a reforming queen
0 likesAwesome and cool!
0 likesCozy Glow can reform Tirek too because she wanted power like him
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0 likesi think scorpan would be useful in reforming tirek
0 likesDiamond tiara needs her horn and wings, She is now the princess of reforming
0 likesDid you see the Diamond and Dazzle comics? Diamond Tiara and her cat Dazzle had to deal with one guy. A purple imp named Illy. Illy was once part of Impish Industries and have been working behind the Rich families back. Then when Filthy met Illy, he made a deal with him. By the time Diamond was born, Illy became her client. But then things were out of hand when on Diamond's fifth birthday, she was given a cat named Dazzle. Things were getting along until Illy decided to play out with these two. First, he locks the two inside the video game world and places his company marks on both of them. The second time is when Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon were having a sleepover. Illy took in the disguise of a cat and tired to take Dazzle. Diamond Tiara was the first to recognize Illy by his voice. Illy was then stopped. Then Illy placed a trial on Diamond Tiara and Dazzle. Silver Spoon became the hero and prevented to two from being separate. Then Diamond Tiara got into another confrontation with Illy. Then we found out that Illy had two gems, The Heart's Desire and The Heart's Reproach. She stopped the chaos from the gems and returned to normal. However, according to its creator, Magarblutooth, Diamond and Dazzle takes place shortly after season three of the current show. Can you imagine that the villain of the season four premiere would actually be Illy the Imp? That would be a game changer for the series. Well, I hope Illy might know what he was doing when the villains were around at season eight and nine. Imagine was Illy would do if he comes face to face with the new ruler of Equestria, Princess Twilight Sparkle.
0 likeshe can be reformed with enough unicorn sacrifices
0 likesI thought Princess Luna would be best to reform Tyrek... I mean, she felt she needed to prove herself to gain all of Equestria's favor
0 likesI find it kinda unfair how Chrys and Cozy get to have a Glow up transformation with their reformings and Tirek stayed the same :v
0 likesWhat about Sombra? He is my favourite villain. You think there is a hope for him?
0 likesWow sawtooch you sure now whats right and know how to reform villians
0 likesStarlight is the key to reforming tirek
0 likesAnybody else also thought it was going to be diamond tirara after hearing why Tirek wanted to take over?
0 likesI legit just forget that he isnโt really a pony and heโs actually human
0 likesCan only unicorns become alicorns? They have to earn their wings don't they?
0 likesโAnd pressures pacif-- Diamond tiaraโ either would have been fine but Pacifica is in a different universe.
0 likesI swear Spoiled Rich could be a villain without even trying
1 like"And pressures Pasif----- I mean, Dimond Tiara.... "
0 likesYou. You just made a Gravity Falls reference... ๐
Next you'll start theorizing on how to reform Bill Cypher right? ๐๐
But seriously, that'd be cool.
I was gonna think someone else. I know Diamond Tiara fits, but i cant remember.. but i know theres another pony like him.
0 likesUm well I think that is a good idea but wouldnโt he just try to bring them back down ? And diamond tiara would just be overwhelmed I think that there needs to be someone to help her donโt you think ?
0 likeshmmmm, lemme see....
0 likescatra and shadow weaver, shadow weaver always wanted catra to do better but she was holding back and now after shadow weaver's betrayal she thirsts for power.
so yeah, that's what i think should happen :/
I don't know how valid this is but it might have some significance to this.
0 likeshttps://www.ponywiki.mlpwiki.net/wiki/King_Vorak#Personality
Wait. If Tirek's Dad is a king, then is Tirek a prince?
0 likesHuh, I never thought of it like that. This made me think about things.
0 likesAny chance for video about reforming Sombra?
2 likesLet,s add tempest from the movie to the chracters to reform tirek
1 likeDiamond Tiara, Pacifica Northwest and Amity Blight could all relate an understand each other.
0 likesHaha i love the "seeking" joke
1 likeTirek is like Zuko from Avatar the last airbender
0 likesNew names for the villains: Centaur with Daddy issues, Evil Bug lady and Bratty child.
0 likesHey Sawtooth, please make a video on the rainbow factory. I think it doesn't get that much attention.
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0 likesI LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
It's not his father that Tirek is trying to prove himself to. Your forgot his brother. His brother chose to warn Celestia and Luna and return home.
0 likesI have been waiting for this!
0 likesDo you think you will read the season 10 book they made and make something with that. Idk what it would be but mabye something cool from it
1 likebefore you know it, Diamond Tiara will be in warriors instead of Firestar! diamonds alone will save our clan
0 likesOne question: Who is the protagonist and the hero?
0 likesanyone think his brother could have a role in this?
0 likesSo if Diamond tiara saved and reformed Cozy glow Tea Rex then Alcorn corn about seven people and reforming them you must figure this out
0 likesWhat if itโs not diamond tiara
0 likesBut itโs the pony of shadows
If tirek reformed and went back home what if his dad got in his head and turned bad again like what happened with discord on the second time tirek tried to take over equestria
0 likespersonally I would've thought Princess Luna would've been a good helper but eh
0 likesCould you reforming grogar ?? He's is a villain , but deserves another chance ??
0 likesif he has 2 rib cages does that mean he can have 2 sets of abs-
0 likesI honestly thought you would bring back his brother, scorpan
0 likesAm I the only one who said diamond tiara as a joke and then he actually said it for real
0 likesCould I maybe request a King Sombra reforming video?
0 likesOr is one already out and I havenโt found it? ._.
2:32 made me laugh TwT these are tears of laughter
0 likesIs it me or dose king forak sound like thorax?
0 likesDiamond Tiara you dropped this ๐
0 likesBut is his brother even still alive or any of his kind ????? Great video by the way
0 likesGreat theory but all of them could backfire
0 likesand if they do Equestria is gonna see a lot of familiar faces soon...
Just Sayin...
Love that Pokรฉmon reference!
0 likesSeeking, seaking
1 likeNice one
So you mean to tell diamonds life was so screwed that she AS A FILLY can relate to two of the three main villains WTF.
0 likesIsn't
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Seeking
*shows Seaking*
Isn't worth SEAKING
0 likesBest Pokรฉ-pun ever!
triek is a last cause he is to powerful smart and unlike discord he doesn't take chances he is not gonna be reformed
0 likesI guessed it and yet I still thought you were joking
0 likesDiamond tiara more like diamond key
0 likesToo bad tirek didn't have his rainbow of darkness again
0 likeswait, what about king sombra?
0 likesSo sawtooth,
0 likesWhat's your thoughts on "My Little Pony: Pony Life"
Tirek = Zuko from ATLA
0 likesTirek looks like the storm king
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Is it just me?
0 likesI was thinking when you would send the video about reforming tirek
0 likesI was waiting for it
Diamond tiara next princess, princess of therapy
0 likesI'm guessing the other 2 villains will help?
0 likesEdit:
Welp I was waaaay off
Edit: oh ok I wasn't that far off
If they is next season what would you do??
0 likesYay i couldnโt wait until this video came
0 likesSawtooth waves:the person to reforming tirek isss......diamond tiara
0 likesShort circuit/me:wait hold up
So tirek has daddy issues?
0 likescongratulation, equestria is safe now ^v^
0 likes...we just need to know what became king sombra to be sure =v=
Nobody:
0 likesNo one:
Me: the Beauty in the Beast music opening!!!!
Did you read the comic about Tirekโs origin? https://youtu.be/MdzUe4842Xo
0 likesDiamond tiara !!!
0 likesI really thought it was going to be luna
1 likeWOW you're good, how?
0 likesBro diamond tiara is the actual hero XD two villains she can help
0 likesHey, Sawthoot, pls make a vid about foreshadowing in mlp
0 likesHeres my best example:
Pinkie:"and will put you into trances"
Remind you of discords first apperance?
Great can you do king sombra even tho his dead
0 likesReform King Sombra?
0 likesNow reform the joker
0 likesOr maybe zephyr *shrug*
0 likesI agree with this video but how could he guess chliyas sorry donโt know how to spell her name is queen chliyas
0 likesWell If tyreke was reformed where he just be like Discord Because discord Didn't changes What he looks like He just changed his personality
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Discord didn't really change his personality, he kinda more changed his approach to things. From Evil Villain to Unscrupulous Anti hero
0 likesUr laughter made me crack up
0 likesOml yeah diamond would be the best!!!
0 likespressures PACIFICA
0 likescough coughdimond tiarame: did he just make a grvaity falls refrence?
also me: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So Tirek is prince zuko
0 likesI wanna know paco taco they sound fun
0 likesMe: yeah you can do dem 3 but how about the Storm king (bought back to life) the real grogar and king sombra to!
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Storm King and Sombra would be interesting...though it'd be really hard to predict how to reform Grogar when we know virtually nothing about him and he's most likely long dead.
0 likesTirek x Diamond Tiara = Tirek Tiara
0 likesThought itโd be Luna, but ok
0 likesCan u plz upload more
0 likesPacifi... Diamond tiara
0 likesTirek
1 likeTrek
Shrek
Great video can u plz make video about g5 bc I really want to know wat g5 could be or the mlp 2nd movie but I can't find no vid about it
0 likesholy fucking Christ discord is really hitting hard over here
0 likesSo Zuko?
1 likeOk but like why do you sound like mattpat but a little more quiet
0 likesMy little pony is over Deal with it
0 likesI've only seen now that you've changed your name. XD
0 likesYeah king Vorak is probably dead
0 likes2:20
1 likeWait. Really?
You know Pokemon is Pokemon is my favorite series and game of all time
0 likesDiscord will be a good choice
0 likes____'s looks bright
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that's always the description
0 likesWhen are you doing a face reveal
0 likesThat s serious, yep...
0 likesFinally yay
0 likesdiscord came from the place terec come from the how do discord know about king something right
0 likesNo you are joking really I know you are joking
0 likes3:16 FISH
0 likesA NEW VIDEO!! YAY!!! 4 hours late though. WHATEVER
0 likesOh hi hopefully you wonโt make another attempt at trying to free the three Dr. Wolf has his eye on you
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0 likesIs the background sound Magic Thief EP?
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FINALLY A COMMENT THAT ISNT CRINGE ON ONE OF THESE FRICKING vVIDEOS WELL DONE ME FROM 1 YR AGO
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0 likes๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญI'm happy I'm happy AWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww so my heart ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
0 likesTirekis astrog sow stragts
0 likesI think that your right but listin to the song beter way to be bad listin wat chrysalis.
0 likesPacifica Northwest.
0 likesMlp is so over rated ๐
0 likesummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe give cozy glow new eyes red's and evil looking color
0 likesFinaly
0 likesMmmm hahahaha
0 likesTirek is a Demonic Centaur, Demons donโt reform. Not every villain can be reformed there has to be a least one villain in the universe. Without villains, cartoons would be boring.
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Just because he's red, have horns and is evil doesn't actually make him a demon. Also, the one villain we know of who was an actual demon (Sunset Shimmer) did reform.
0 likesHowever, I do agree that Tirek is perhaps a bit too evil to be reformed.
Flufux It says in the wiki for G1 that Tirek is a Demonic Centaur, same with Grogar.
0 likes@Mary Monster and Creator Mary Yeah, the G1 versions of them. That probably wouldn't apply for their G4 versions. Besides, I think deeming him to be irredeemable because he's 'demonic', whatever that means, isn't the best argument.
0 likesIf he is irredeemable, it's not because he's a 'demon', which I very much doubt he is...but rather because he's an overly-entitled narcissistic sociopath who's addicted to stealing magic.
God no
1 likeNice bern dimind tiara
1 likeI think i am wrong but
0 likesGo to Lspys World
0 likesWhat its name the video cozy chrysalis leave them of be stone
0 likesWatcing the movie
0 likesYou're my person singing dog play with your hands and you got him new what you have what I do you know like we see the movie of Music in Pleasant Point and there is Delta is fixing so how do you say you just so good that you went to
0 likesyup
0 likes2:08 AGAIN
0 likesOmgggggggggggggggggggggggggg
0 likesl like the ad
0 likesHow it is possiblee
0 likesYou mean Pony.
0 likesHmph!
0 likesYes subbed and hit the bell ๐ can I get a shout out
1 likeLol
0 likesPeople here have so many likes ;-;
1 likeU all ways tell me stufe I missed so I donโt think thereโs a nuther way
0 likesYou disappointed me dude.
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oh? how so?
0 likesSawtooth Waves Diamond Tiara reforming 2 of the 3 villains? Talk about a lack of variety.
0 likesi call it efficiency lol
1 likeyes
0 likesI imagine Diamond Tiara would probably be all grown up when she takes on this task. You know, like that clip someone made that was inspired by your Cozy Glow video.
2 likesI have a great idea to reform ALL the villains: Tell the creators of the show to make the video.
3 likesDiamond would actually work for all three. Chrysalis wanted power, Diamond could show her just how far hunger for power took her - mocking Scoots, tormenting CMCs for not having cutie marks... She could show Chrysalis that something was missing from her life, and that was friendships she developed with the CMCs who helped her to break away from her mother. Diamond alongside Pharynx would showcase how much friendship enriched their lives without losing their identity. Diamond found that she is a leader and not born to be spoiled and manipulative. She wants what's best for others through her leadership. It's a quality that Chrysalis might eventually develop through Diamond's and Cosy's reformations. It would even be interesting for her, Tirek and Starlight to have a long conversation about how Starlight reformed, and Starlight will admit that she still has some of her old temptations to rule over others and using magic to do so. But, chooses not to. She could turn to Chrysalis and say that she never meant for her to be replaced and for her culture to change so drastically. Tell her that friendship isn't the cause, but her people losing their sense of culture. And turn to Tirek to advise that no amount of power could ever fill that hole she felt from her childhood. Only through friendship has she reconnected with Sunburst and became a counsellor and later a school headmare. None of that was in sight when she led selfishly to satisfy selfish means. Only when she started to care for others on a deeper level and learned to friendship again that she flourished.
1 likeDiamond is something Mane Six just aren't, and that's in the shoes of those they want to reform.
You have no idea how much hope this would've provided for the lore if these three actually were reformed. Having Chrysalis rejoins the changelings and having Tirek spread friendship to the centaur nations would've showed fully how the magic of friendship grows.
0 likesWhat about Luna? She was driven to become nightmare moon because she could not live up to the power her sister held. She was expected to be regal and grateful when nobody looked at it from her point of view. She was always in her sisters shadow and looked down upon. Then she was finally reformed and became better. She realized that life is not a competition for power. Luna would be a good example because rather than her parents, her own sister was the one who she felt like was causing people to look down on her.
1 likeI think that also Tempest/Fizzlepop would also be a good contender for reforming Tirek. her backstory left her wanting to get her horn back to make her feel complete and normal, and when Twilight shown her the way, she gave up on searching her quest on having the power of a complete unicorn and accepted her hornless head
0 likesI'd like to point out that no, he's not a prince, he's still very much a lord because he's the younger sibling, making his older brother Prince Scorpan, which is a callback to his origin story in G1 where he was a human prince who was turned by Tirek into his weird creature form (i have no idea what creature Scorpan is supposed to be) and served him so that he may lift the curse eventually.
0 likesThere is one glaring issue with this idea though: the actual reason Vorak didn't love Tirek.
0 likesGiven that the episode specifically mentioned a character who only appeared in a specific issue of the Fiendship is Magic comic, then it's fair to assume that that issue is canon...and in it, Vorak didn't trust Tirek specifically because of son's interest in magic. He saw how power-hungry his son was and denied him power out of fear that he would abuse it, which made it seem to Tirek that his father didn't love or respect him. Tirek learned to steal magic specifically to grow powerful enough to overthrow Vorak, or at the very least become so powerful that his father wouldn't be able to hold him back or tell him what to do...and that was something that Vorak tried to stop as much as he could.
Basically, Vorak did not want Tirek to go around stealing magic, Tirek wanted to steal magic to make up for his father's distrust in him...and possibly to spite him.
Your ideas of reforming the lat three villains are great! It's realistic, and plausible. ^^
0 likesAww the pic of them all happy together is so cute!
1 likeYou forgot to mention how throughout the season, Tirek was the only one not to try and betray his allies like Chrysalis and Cozy tried to do. This just goes to show that the idea of family is indeed important to Tirek.
0 likesya i was not expecting that, i also think that cozy glow could help in the way that another of tirekโs motivations was he genuinely saw the ponies as inferior, i think after he had worked with cozy glow nearly dooming equestria he might see they arenโt as weak minded as he first thought
0 likesWish the series had a grand finale. That would be awesome.
0 likesStygian was first that came to mind because you showed him. He wanted to impress and gain the trust of the founders of the tree, because he united them. He wanted to help and be recognized for it, and impress everyone. There was also Luna, which should have been the first to come to mind, who wanted to please the kingdom and earn the whole kingdom's love and respect at the same degree her sister had. I earnestly feel like Diamond was not cut out this time.
0 likesQuestion, could King Sombra have ever been reformed if he wasn't quote on quote " dispelled into the either"? Technically Discord brought him back once so he could do so again or teach the spell to Twilight or Starlight. Please consider this because I'd like see your take on this.
0 likesVorak disapproves of Tirek because of his behavior as a sociopath which is the early stage of his villainy and feared that he might try to overthrow him due to having more magic. He is a good king. As for Sendak, he inspires Tirek to steal magic and make it his goal. Even if Tirek find out why Vorak disapproves of him, it wouldn't even matter to him. Power still motivate his plans. Also, his hatred for friendship by viewing it as a weakness and new form of imprisonment can be too tough to beat. Just thought I say something and tell you some basics for you to know.
1 likeI think Tirek's reform could be improved with a Road Trip! Get Chrysalis and Cozy reformed and reunite with Tirek. Then get Diamond Tiara and company to drag Tirek back home and help him with his 'family matters' and whatever else might be wrong with his homeland. Discord could transform into a 'magic school bus' and fly them all there, Last Airbender style.
0 likesIt'll be awesome to have Celestia and Luna tag along. Who else should go?
I was thinking maybe Moondancer? She was driven by something else-to learn every thing to I think beat Twilight or something, but she had friends as Tirek had his brother, and they both thought that their friends/family were irrelevant until someone showed them. Maybe too much Twilight cross promo, but it still works I think.
0 likesDiamond Tiara is actually an amazing idea for Tirek
0 likesAfter you said what Tirekโs motivation was, I knew Diamond Tiara would be the key again.
0 likesI disagree. I think seeing his old comrades happy will just make him angrier and feel betrayed. He's not going to bend his knee to a tiny filly. I think there's a different pony he could connect with, someone who's earned respect and been through a lot, someone much more mature who had to deal with being in the shadow of an older relative a lot longer than anyone else. It's Luna. Of course he'd probably try to steal her magic, but that's why it's important that it's her. If she can form a bond with him, a true bond of mutual respect and longing for their older relative to acknowledge them, Luna can show him that you don't need a sibling or a parent to prove your worth. She'd also be the ultimate test for him. If he stole her magic, he'd ruin any chance at friendship he could've had with her. He would see how much he'd hurt her, and be reminded of the pain his dad caused him. I think Luna is the key to reforming Tirek, not a weak filly who he'd never respect in a million years.
0 likesAlso, a good lesson that Tirek needs to learn is that family is stronger when it's chosen, not by blood. His father will never bow to friendship, and I think Tirek would be healthier realizing that Vorak just isn't good for him. There's no point in trying to convince a toxic family member that the old way is wrong, they'll just keep being toxic and unhealthy. However this doesn't mean he has to throw out all his relatives, I think after bonding with Luna, he'll see her relationship with Celestia and want to rekindle with his brother. After then, he'll be open to friendship and be reformed.
edit: Tempest Shadow would also be a safe bet, they could relate with the feeling of betrayal and feeling of powerlessness when it comes to magic. In my opinion, a mix of these two could be healthiest for Tirek. Just reforming with Luna might make him feel patronized, and solely with Tempest may make him consider evil more than he should.
Great job reforming the villans but there were three easy ways
0 likes1. Twilight could just used the reforming spell she wanted to use on discord.
2. Discord could have used his magic on them like he used on mane 6 when he first came.
3. Fluttershy could have used the stare.
I still think Tirek needs more than those three come on 1000 years?Maybe they should convince the father first because he is the reason Tirek wants the magic.
1 likeIโm just wondering when they would reform the villains. If they do it later, Diamond tiara would be much older
0 likesNo offence, (big fan) but I think another reason he did what he did (stealing the magic and whatnot) was to prove to his brother scorpan that they should take magic instead of embracing friendship. We also see that when he was talking to discord (when he betrayed him) he said that friendship isnโt what he should choose, the same kind of thing happened when the backstory was being told. Even though his brother (who he must have trusted) said that he should choose friendship over power, tirek didnโt listen. So Iโm not so sure that it will be that easy to reform him. Or what Iโm saying is completely wrong ๐ .
1 likeI lol'd at that thumbnail. It's like cozy and chrysalis are saying : join us, tirek. Reform!
2 likesYAYYY FINALLY we get some real good minutes with you reforming Teirek
0 likesI think Discord should also share his experience since it would br very similar to what trek might be going through
0 likesTirek: I am surprised that someone with your intellect does not see this friendship is but a new form of imprisonment. Clearly you had to abandon your true nature to stay in their good graces."
0 likesTirek: "You are Discord, you are legend you cannot fall into the same trap that claimed my brother."
Discord: "But you said this is a sign of your gratitude and loyalty. A gift from someone close to you."
Tirek: "My brother who betrayed me. It is as worthless as he is."
What we can gather from this is that Tirek sees friendship as another form of imprisonment, and is fighting not just to impress his Father, but to also to avoid being imprisoned one way or another. He is given the option of either disappointing dear old dad, or being imprisoned. So while yes, he would need to be shown he doesn't have to obey his father, he also needs to be shown that friendship is not a prison, which i think would be a little harder to do. As you said, he has spent a thousand years imprisoned by ponies. Thats a long time to be solidifying your belief system. The older someone is, the harder it is to change their view and opinion on just about any major topic. Just try and sway a 70 year olds political beliefs. You won't get very far. And all of this after he was betrayed by his brother, his close friend who he was supposed to conquer along side... Man, this guy has got family issues...
Edit: Also, there was something about weak minded equines who offer him nothing, so he needs to know, if not powe, what does he get out of this?
Dimond Tiara the Princess of Reforming. Wonderful video SawTooth. Keep up the good work. Have a wonderful day.
0 likesDiamond Tiara is one of the most relatable characters
1 likeLast time I said that the real reason behind Luna becoming nightmaremoon was that celestia had all the powers and magical abilities that luna had cause if you think about it you will see that in episode 1 in the tale of the 2 sisters it was said ," the elder sister then took responsibility for both Sun and Moon and harmony has been maintained in equestria ever since " . This is it luna might have known about this or when she got to know about this she would have become jelous of celestia and whould have thought that she has no purpose . But there is an other theory too , when celestia banished luna using the elements of harmony she would have taken some of luna ( nightmaremoon's) magic that allowed her to raise the moon . Hey if you want you should make a video about this
0 likesLast time I said that the real reason behind Luna becoming nightmaremoon was that celestia had all the powers and magical abilities that luna had cause if you think about it you will see that in episode 1 in the tale of the 2 sisters it was said ," the elder sister then took responsibility for both Sun and Moon and harmony has been maintained in equestria ever since " . This is it luna might have known about this or when she got to know about this she would have become jelous of celestia and whould have thought that she has no purpose . But there is an other theory too , when celestia banished luna using the elements of harmony she would have taken some of luna ( nightmaremoon's) magic that allowed her to raise the moon . Hey if you want you should make a video about this
0 likesI hope they make a special on reforming the three it would be nice.
0 likesThey should bring these 3 villains back in the next gen, just cause sticking them in a statue wonโt work, as we saw with Discord. He escaped his Stone prison, yah it took a long time but he did it, but couldnโt do it a second time... so whatโs to say these 3 canโt do it after some time? Stone weakens over time, give it long enough and theyโll be able to bust out
0 likesHad a feeling it was going to be diamond tiara, who else in the show also has that kind of story?
0 likesWe need a minisode of a family reunion with Tirek. Christmas would be so awkward for them
0 likesScorpan: Hey, Brother, pass the salt?
Tirek: Oh, so now you want something from me just because you gave me a triangle on some string?
Now that we have a formula for reforming all of them, fanfic writers, prepare your keyboards!
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0 likesI think the villains are better not reformed bur this was a interesting trilogy
0 likesthat's a good thing to know if you only care about power you'll just end up alone diamond tiara almost ended up like her mom did all alone with out friends.
0 likesNow time for a "Reformed villains becoming evil again" series lol
0 likesYessss another video I love this series and love your vids! ๐๐
0 likesI also think starlight might help with the 3 villains reforming. (with her past and all)
0 likesItd be hard to forgive these attacks for the ponies and if someone reminds him of these had times its hard to know what his answer is gonna be: laughing about it? Or turning away from Ponyville? Itd be even mysterious...Tirek would eventually try forming them back to evil just as he did with discord.But there is still a Tiara and Thorax's brother to help them not return to the baddie gang. Diamond Tiara is a very good choice
0 likesagaintho shed be a perfect example with her Mother spoiled brat bruh but good theory!i originally thought that Tirek was a lost cause. but now i see that he has total daddy issues. plus this short series would make a good fan fic story. and i intend to make that happy.
0 likesi was thinking that the way to reform tirek is sunset shimmer because she had power but gave it up and she can travel within the two worlds with twighlights mirror and one other teleporter that is in a different location she can show tirek a better way of life because she know many people and ponies that have made mistakes
0 likesSince u mentioned he needed a sense of family maybe cadence and flurry heart could help too when they get slightly older ๐
0 likesMaybe they could get his brother Scorpan since he also say the magic of friendship before tirek
1 likeAssuming heโs still alive
2:53 loved this part lmao
0 likesHow about luna? She was kinda invisible to other ponies, I mean, her night was, so she became nightmare moon to just make others notice her work. I know it wasnt the only reason, but I am sure that she just wanted her work to finally be noticed. I think its some kind of trying to impress to her subjects, like: I am powerfull and I can make night last forever, I can rule on my own (,,there can be only one princess in Equestria [...]โ) so she was also trying to prove her worth
0 likesDude you low-key inspire me to make my own ponysona and videos
0 likesSo... the key to his redemption is the found family troupe. Nice
0 likesIm not sure is Diamond Tiara is the key... Tbh i think Scorpan would be a better option since he was literally was with him throughout his time. Sure it will take a while but it will be worth it because in the villain comic Tirek was in the wrong due to morbid curiousity and a thirst for power. Vorak was scolding him because what he did was wrong and jeopardized relations between his kingdom and the empire. Family was never the problem here it was simply his urge to learn was what went wrong. It was tainted and twisted so i also think a scholar like Ocelus or even Moondancer can help since neither of them openly opposed him in the past and they can share in his interest in the learning of magic without being twilight. He just needs that want of being knowledgeable in magic to become pure in intention again
0 likesDiamond Tiara is litteraly the most relatable pony in all of existence
0 likesDamn. Diamond Tiara is pretty damn important
0 likesI think if they put that in the show then that would not make sense but I think your on to something. I love your videos!
0 likesI felt the same way when diamond tiara said that her mom had no friends
0 likesAnyone else notice that during during different periods of the video Sawtooth used Magic Thief, the Tirek inspired piece of the Villans album, as backround music?
0 likes"Don't usually do things like that" my flank- XD
Tirek is just trying to restore his HONOR
0 likesidea for a special called a strong reform: when an all powerfull Bull (p..s not iron will) named Lord Rampage tries to take over equestria with his army of bull minions, the mane 6 wants tirek to help them to stop him and his army before he takes over equestria forever.
0 likesAll you need to do to reform Tirek is open a portal to a whole other show's universe and kidnap Zuko. What could go wrong?
0 likesI know the point of the show is friendship is magic but I think the point of putting the villain in stone is that some people are just really horrible in unredeemable and maybe you canโt change everyone
0 likesI'm glad that all three villains have been reformed but they're still one more. King Sombra! is there any way to reformed him?
0 likesMy opinion is Stygian would be a better mentor for Tirek. Both wanted to show their strength in order to impress someone. Stealing power/artifacts in order to become stronger. And both getting trapped for thousands of years. Yet Stygian could show that he didn't need the power since his freinds in the end saved him from himself. And to me tirek would see how his goals were hurting not only his friends/family like scorpan.(and if we're talking comics kinda sorta vorak since he wanted peace between equestria. But that's the comics and eh its iffy)But also caused his imprisonment in Tartarus.
0 likesYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! Great minds think alike! I wanted the other two to show up in here and they did! To quote Twilight when she got her cutie mark: Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes!
0 likesisnโt Tirek like, a literal demon?
0 likesI have been waiting for this video! โฅ๏ธ
0 likes(I love it)
I definitely agree with you sawtooth
0 likesU should make a sort of fanfiction continuation of the series. U can reform everyone and stuff
0 likesDamn well then Diamond tiara has A LOT of work to do then
0 likesI think you should just send tirek home the second you set him free...LOL
0 likesDamnit, I was CONVINCED it was gonna be Luna. Fuming!
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oh, that's an interesting thought!
0 likesWhy do you think of things so astonishing? Your the mlp Einstein!
1 likeDiamond Tiara, or Cozy Glow?
1 likeEww... thatโs bad idea, I would reccomend Prince Zuko, he would be the best!
XD
Dang Diamond Teaira has been through it all
1 likePlease make next for Sombra
0 likesWhat if king Vorak is like Odin in the MCU? What if Titekโs attempts to impress his father by stealing magic was misplaced similar to Thor and Lokiโs attack on the frost giants in the first Thor movie. That would explain why Vorak never sought vengeance for his son being locked up because he saw it as a suitable punishment and a potential leaning/humbling experience!
0 likesWhen you compare Tirekโs motivations with Thor/Lokiโs everything falls into place!
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He's kinda that in the comic Vorak appeared in. However, Tirek never actually tried to impress his dad, he went against his father's wishes and learned how to steal magic and grow more powerful than Vorak so that he couldn't tell Tirek what to do anymore.
0 likesNeedless to say, Vorak was quite ashamed of what his son turned into, and considering he did not want to make an enemy of Equestria, he was probably okay with them locking Tirek in Tartarus.
So technically, it's more Cozy and Chrysalis who reform Tirek. Interesting.
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DT is paving the way for him while Cozy and Chrysalis finish the job.
0 likesBest brony observations ever!!!
1 likeAWESOME VIDEO BRO!
1 likeDaddy issues? Oh me and Tirek are very similar then!๐๐๐
1 likeTwo rib cages?!...that sounds creepy
1 likeAlmost said Pacifica instead of Diamond Tiara 2:33 lol
1 likeyou may want to get Dr. Wolf for therapy for all three of them
0 likesYou choose diamond tiara and I thought it was going to be stygian I was literally completely shocked I like you already use diamond tiara for cozy glow how can you use her again for T-Rex
0 likesIdk that feels lyke a stretch... But what if he saw scorpans strengh somehow, idk. Scorpan feels more lyke a key the diamond tiara.
0 likesI want to see tirek in the Equestrian army
0 likesBEEN SO EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO
0 likes2:05 His laugh is holy.
0 likesDiamond tiara confirmed best pony
1 likeyou know what they say high class parents can be abusive in more ways then one
0 likesFor some reason I thought Trixie was gonna reform tireck........
1 likeIs it possible to reform King Sombra..?
0 likesCan you try to do a reform video with The Dazzlings.
0 likesBut it was kind of funny when sawtooth waves said that diamond tiara I was the keys to reforming to triek
0 likesI was actually really surprised XD
1 likeI idea would be trying to find scorpan, if he is still alive!
0 likesYou should do some gravity falls theories!
0 likesI knew this was coming next.
0 likesI don't know about the whole friendship part he and discord became friends and he just ended up betraying him.
0 likesOmg he deserves 1 billion subscribers
1 likeur intro is so cool i love it omf
0 likesI see you fellow Gravity Falls Fan. Nice!
0 likesWhy doesn't Tirek get an emoji in the title? I call discrimination!
0 likesFINALLY thank you
0 likesWhat sbout his brother Scorpan? He might be able to help.
1 likeNo one:
0 likesMe:tyrek has daddy issues
Yaaaaaas IV been waiting for you to make it
0 likesDiamond tiara the princess of redemption
1 likeI think personally you can't reform him
1 likeDiamond tiara wins again
0 likesThink about it the reason Discord free from the spell of the element magic the time princess of moon and sun cast it is because of sctaalo and her friends including Applejack younger sister and Rarity Sister are fighting of names one say distraction etc that's why discord free because of negative energy of free like Pinkie Pie has Caos magic/embrassing the magic of caos so posible the tree free too
0 likesIsnt there a risk cozy glow and qween qristalis (i spelled that wrong) could get re inspired to be evil by tirek
0 likesHow about you make a video about how his body works huh
0 likesI completely agree
0 likesCan you reformed Sombra
0 likesI think it's a good idea
0 likesoh my god!! its finally here!!! yes!!!!
0 likesSombra was part of them what if we can reform him but how I will leave that to you
1 likeโPaci- Diamond Tiaraโ
0 likesHuh, I thought he was gonna say Luna for a moment
0 likesCool video.
0 likesHow can I become a alicorn?
0 likesCan you remind me of Zuko
0 likesDiamond Tiara? No bab seed-
0 likesI thought he was going to say starlight
0 likesIs Apple dash a thing because in the last episode they seem like doing chores together!?!
0 likesHow can I become an alicorn?
0 likesPacifi- uh diamond tiara
0 likesDid anyone else see that Gravity Falls and Over The Garden Wall reference?
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not sure what over the garden wall is, must not have been intentional!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves You should totally watch over the garden wall it's amazing! It's a mini series on cartoon network and halloween classic
0 likesCozy glows mouth looks wrong
1 likeGot any plans for non-mlp videos?
0 likesDo reform king sombra
0 likesbruh you need to reach out to Mat Pat and do a collab
0 likesWhat's wrong with Sunset Shimmer? She was power hungry and wanted to please Celestia
0 likesWhat will he look like
0 likesIt can't be luna cause she was desperate for attention and not trying to impress anyone.
0 likesWhy does every villain need reforming? Seriously. Tyreck should atleast not be reformed. Their crimes are to big. Also zuko would be the perfect person to reform however his name is. Because if he canโt get it to work he can cook him alive. But I still say none of them shouldโve been reformed (none as in the 3 you said.)
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Imagine Wagons yeah but discord didnโt destroy equestria. He just changed it then changed it back he didnโt steal everyoneโs magic, destroy equestria and then try to take over equestria AGAIN
0 likesOmg I saw the title before looking at the thumbnail and I thought it said Shrek๐
0 likessoooo...
0 likesdiamond tiara is the key to everything jJDJDFJ
Princess Celestia is the reason Discord free think about Discord is not just a villain before in almost last season and episodes he is a star fruit he go to bad side to good side until he meet fluttershy.She just forget to sucured it a place so any pony that chaos like scootalo did anger,hatred etc so posible the three free as long their's a pony's or creature's that want of power,Love is taken not Grated,And Greedieness they will be free no time
0 likesPacifica Northwest.. What are you doing in the mlp universe?
1 likeFinally I have all 3
0 likesDiamond Tiara group therapy
0 likesWhat if the king isnโt a bad dad it is possible that tereks brother was good an Terek felt he needed to do better it could be an act of jealousy. Like if you agree
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King Vorak is actually a fairly reasonable guy who never wanted Tirek to become evil. It's all there in the comic.
0 likesThatโs not backs itโs 1 long back,probably-
0 likesAre there other draquonaquis
0 likesWow
0 likesVIDEO ABOUT WHY CHRYSALIS WAS THE ONLY FEMALE UNREFOMED CHANGELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesHey you should read the comment i left on your last video . It might be a great idea for your next video
0 likesCool
0 likeslike comic he had a brother or sister I can't Remer but he was different
0 likesthe music is loud, I can't hear the lyrics :<
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0 likesEllo, I hope you notice me Iโve been watching for about 3 years and I love your videos
1 likeWhat's going to happen to your channel when G5 start???
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0 likesSawtooth waves: DiAmOnD TiArA
If sombody else wrote this before me Iโm sorry .w.
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I think the perfect one is Tempest Shadow, she has a story super similar, she wanted her horn and was fully willing to be second in command and prove it to the storm king, but was betrayed.
0 likesI would also say Stigein or Stigien or how ever you spell it, the former Pony of Shadows... he looked up to his friends but felt like he was not good enough.
Thoughts?
Also guys can a ummmm reform night mare moon? Tho
0 likesI did, in fact, call it.
0 likesAnyone can change...
0 likesMlp ended there is no point in reforming
0 likesYa u are right
0 likesTerek evil
0 likesOoooooo new theory yay oh god
0 likesUNITED HIS BROTHER OR SISTER
0 likesI love sawtooth waves ti is good no nise channel ๐
0 likesThere is a new mlp movie coming out
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After the ending of the end and before the last problem
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0 likesWhy oly male chaneling have a diamond in there neck but female don't. Am is your fan from Vietnam. I'm really sorry if there's a spelling mistakes.
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0 likesIโm actually an hour going to I even have a little sister and little brother who are Alcorns to actually Iโve got two little sisters or Alcorns I donโt have just one Iโve got two so yeah
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