4:44 @sawtooth waves. What about Dr. Whooves the time traveler?


heres my theory :<br>if starlight, twilight and spike went into the past, in the time of the sonic rainboom there would be two twilights, a spike, a spike in the egg and mabye even two starlights. For example when twilight went back in time in 'its about time' there were two twilights that saw each other. So if this time when starlight and twilight went back in time they would just be copies of the twilight spike and starlight of that time, no changes when she left .Except mabye rainbow dash remembering that there was an alacorn twilight spectator watching her make the sonic rainboom.

heres my theory :
if starlight, twilight and spike went into the past, in the time of the sonic rainboom there would be two twilights, a spike, a spike in the egg and mabye even two starlights. For example when twilight went back in time in 'its about time' there were two twilights that saw each other. So if this time when starlight and twilight went back in time they would just be copies of the twilight spike and starlight of that time, no changes when she left .Except mabye rainbow dash remembering that there was an alacorn twilight spectator watching her make the sonic rainboom.


The other timelines don't exist because they where found by the TVA and are now gone


uhm...how dare you make me question everything in my life? lol


In the season 9 episode daring doubt awizoto mentions other guardians so what if awizoto was guardian of the jungle a the pony eating yeti was the gaurdian of the mountains


Yeah.. I don't think this is gonna happen


Oh my..........if that really happened then.....


I can already hear the typing of the fanfics


I don't like dark/serious Sawtooth voice, to spoopy 🙈


“wE HAve tO pRotEcT thE SaCreD TimELinE”


WAIT HOly heck WAIT
G5 supposedly takes places thousands of years after g4 does right?  WHAT IF g5 is the ogrinal
Timeline? Not only would it explain why the heck twilight wouldn’t be present (I’m 90% sure she’s not gonna be there at this point tbh) with twilights sudden disappearance what if the tribes start to blame each other and sicne there’s no pony to stop them what if Cozy glow succeeds in draining all magic defeating chyriases second rain but no pony sees her doing this which leads to them blaming each other even more eventually spitting apart


My Thoughts:
Just because Twilight, Spike, and Starlight were present on the sidelines for the historic rain-boom, that does NOT actually change anything. That rain-boom happened without them interacting with Rainbow Dash at all. As far as we know, Rainbow Dash didn’t even see them.
The rain-boom was completed, thereby connecting the main six’s cutie marks and mutual destiny. Nothing was changed, and the timeline they returned to is the exact same timeline that they left at the beginning of the episode.

I love your content, man; I just don’t buy into this particular theory. That’s just my opinion though, and I completely respect anyone else who decides that this theory is a valid addition to their personal cannon(s). Best wishes, take care, and I look forward to your next video~

_My Thoughts:_
_Just because Twilight, Spike, and Starlight were present on the sidelines for the historic rain-boom, that does _*_NOT_*_ actually change anything. That rain-boom happened without them interacting with Rainbow Dash at all. As far as we know, Rainbow Dash didn’t even_ see _them._
_The rain-boom was completed, thereby connecting the main six’s cutie marks and mutual destiny. Nothing was changed, and the timeline they returned to is the exact same timeline that they left at the beginning of the episode._

_I love your content, man; I just don’t buy into this particular theory. That’s just my opinion though, and I completely respect anyone else who decides that this theory is a valid addition to their personal cannon(s). Best wishes, take care, and I look forward to your next video~_

@Sawtooth Waves There's almost certainly some difference. The real question is if rewriting the past deletes the current timeline (to quote Zecora: "it is we who should not be"). Though that brings up other questions, similar to Clone Genocide...

that's definitely the best case scenario that I'd hope is true! lots of other time travel media takes a stricter "butterfly affect" approach where every change counts. i can't say confidently which is more likely though. glad you like my videos in general tho!!


Day three of asking sawtooth to talk about zecora and a possible zebra society


I am going to make a search engine called nameless.


"Hello, my name is Loki. This is my friend mobius, your volcano is about to erupt, I know this because we're from the future, I think."


Can you make a video titled “Are Pinkie Pie and Apple Jack Related?


i’m not sure I could be completely wrong but since the new GEN five have to completely like redo the power of friendship because the species are so distanced LOL I guess I don’t know but maybe that’s why they have to redo everything because twilight was lost in that original timeline you know what I mean so the progress of twilight and everybody made wasn’t actually there.

obviously theres a million holes in this but 🤷♀


mmmm if this theory is right then if it was the same time line then they handed both twilight sparkle so the both twilight sparkles went in the overs time line thats why the the 5 knows twilight in the same time line


Quick question, Do you have pony town? I’m just wondering. Btw hello


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you mean that is 2 saparite timelins won't ther be 2 Twilights in the new timeline


wbu when unicorn twilight time traveled? is there another forgotten uniserve?


I’m going on a vacation!! See you in August!


May be there is another time line that pony sow twilight  like rainbow dash <br>another alicorn and tell celestia there is another alicorn, What is this time line so post to be sawtooh what happened in this time line please make this next video.

May be there is another time line that pony sow twilight  like rainbow dash
another alicorn and tell celestia there is another alicorn, What is this time line so post to be sawtooh what happened in this time line please make this next video.


Well I hope that the TVA dosent go looking for them because they were "altering the timeline" jaja.


What about discord? he can since magic may be he can help


YOOOO SAWWWWTTTTOOOOOOTH WHY DOUSE STIDGIEN LOOK LIKE HE IS RELATED TO STARSWERL, THEY HAVE THE SAME EYES, THEY BOTH WERE A SIMILAR OUTFIT AND SAME COAT COLOUR! AAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Find it all the time now I remember what I said to Valdo timeline maybe nothing is it remember they said that some on the timeline is nothing sister maybe maybe he just create a few maybe she didn’t create out by that one I don’t think that timeline is safe


Well I wouldn't be like that is completely different one did in just make the same one and then just go back and in one time line but they went in different ones


So you are telling me that my little pony did a fucking Rick and morty <br>I mean when you think about the Rick and morty one took place in episode 6 this one took place in season 6

So you are telling me that my little pony did a fucking Rick and morty
I mean when you think about the Rick and morty one took place in episode 6 this one took place in season 6


Wait i just realized if your theory is right, thats another possible explaination for the new gen of mlp,

The realities was now split into 2. What if the ending we know in the previous mlp series just ended there and now the new gem of mlp is the continuation of the original(abandoned) au of mlp where twilight or even the main 6 might be unknown anymore bc of twilight dissapearing and everything falls to disharmony?

 I know this is kinda supposed to be a joke but  are you see what Im seeing... or its just me? ._.

Welp T^T


Yo uo rick and morty want it's theory back


There is one question that came to my mind after watching this. Your theory seems very believable, but there were a few loose ends which weren't addressed. Like as you said, Twilight Sparkle, Spike and Starlight Glimmer got delivered into another universe by just existing in the past which created another timeline, branching away from the original timeline-where they weren't present in the past. Then their original timeline would be with no Twilight Sparkle, Starlight Glimmer and Spike and the rest of the main six gang would figure about their disappearance and other stuff happens..blah..blah..blah. But you seem to have forgotten about the new timeline where they got delivered into. Wouldn't that timeline also have their own version of Twilight Sparkle, Spike and Starlight Glimmer? Then where are those ponies? And if these versions aren't there in that other universe then how did they just poof out of existence? Those versions of Twilight Sparkle, Spike and Starlight Glimmer have to stop existing to make your theory work. Tho it is quite boring to believe that the trio were pulled back into their own timeline..

What if it happened in both timelines and they just switched


y do u have to make it sound dramatic / spoopy its not that much well someone who likes horror games

honestly while watching i said duh nu nu nu NU! alot


So u non-binary right, they/them? And a changeling, thembug.is what I’m calling u from now on


Lol i've got sum idea.. what if the generation 5 that we will see in september, is actually like happening in the forgotten world like twilight spike and starlight are gone, and maybe after the mane 6 will be gone...equestria would fall and the 3 diffrent types of ponies seperate like Celestia find someone to replace twilight and she will become the queen or something, and she would be like bad and because of her equestria would fall apart- idk it just got into my mind and it's weird but yeah


This theory depends on the kind of time traveling we see in the MCU: changing the past creates alternate timelines while the timeline where the time travellers were from remains intact. If we go for the traditional time travel format, then the timeline the traveller is from becomes affected by the changes in the past. This is the format MLP actually uses, as evidenced by Twilight's paradox spell. Regardless, the theory of alternate timelines is an interesting thought experiment nonetheless


I just wanna say how with all these alternative time line videos, I'm realizing that chrysalis is probably the most powerful villain. Maybe not in strength alone but after twilight and spike are removed from the picture, she's the one who's most likely to come to power. If you remove one thing from the equation, chrysalis is most likely to take control of Equestria.

I agree with this. Asides from Chrysalis, I would also say cozy glow would be the second most powerful villain because she always seems to find a method used to take over. Also, she tricks people with how she looks like since she’s just a filly.


Sawtooth's soft voice made this theory even more creepier

I love it


Well, given how in the og timeline, things rely on Twilight, the catastrophic things Sawtooth suggested might happen. The realm would look different if this actually did split off from the original.

You know, this is why I like theories like these. They really make you stop and think about the what if’s the writers probably didn’t think themselves.


Starlight's ability to change fate (i.e. changing/removing cutie marks) makes her the most dangerous villain in the series. Notice how she always remained behind until the final jump forward. Remaining in the past might have been vital to keeping the alternate timelines in existence, so when she joined Twilight traveling forward it destroyed the spell.


When Sawtooth uploads you know it will be good ♥


I havent been in the mlp fandom for a long time but I love always tuning in to watch your videos :]


What would have happened if Twilight didn't try to steal the hippogriff's pearl in the movie?<br>It would be very interesting to know what would have happened.

What would have happened if Twilight didn't try to steal the hippogriff's pearl in the movie?
It would be very interesting to know what would have happened.


4:28 as much as i adore this creepy theory, i feel like this exact thing happened.
During the final conversation between starlight and twilight (the one where twilight convinces starlight to not destroy the world) we can clearly see that nobody in cloudsdale has seen them. It's like they weren't even there. They probably were in the original timeline too, but we didn't see them because season 5 wasn't planned at the time, the show was planned to have only 3 seasons. If the entire series had already been planned, we probably would have seen a frame where twilight and starlight are conversating, forshadowing what would have happened 4 seasons later.
Still, this theory is wonderful, i love it so much, i will for sure make a headcanon based off it!

True but it's rainbow's POV of how she did the rainboom3 so of she didn't see them, then we wouldn't have seen her (same for fluttershy when she was in the race, if she didn't see them, then we as the viewers would see them too) and it wouldn't make sense if we (as the viewers) see them from another pony's POV since they aren't important to anything


Who else was getting chills when Sawtooth explained that the first five seasons world of the mane six together may be left behind and taken over.


i think this is a really interesting line of thought, and <b>certainly</b> would be an interesting concept for fanfiction and stuff, but i dont really think that thats what happened. if they were still in a different timeline, then when they go back to the present, wouldnt there still be another twilight? i think they wouldve been able to tell if it was different.

i think this is a really interesting line of thought, and *certainly* would be an interesting concept for fanfiction and stuff, but i dont really think that thats what happened. if they were still in a different timeline, then when they go back to the present, wouldnt there still be another twilight? i think they wouldve been able to tell if it was different.


Sorry Sawtooth. But there’s no way you’re right. The timeline is still here. Nothing bad has happened.


With your cozyglow theory where she takes magic is reminding me somewhat of G5, and how all magic has vanished from equestria.


Which also brings up the questions…
1. Are their now two Spikes, Starlights, and Twilights in the new timeline?

2. Did the original Spike, Starlight, and Twilight replace the alternate version after a complication with the spell, that prevented them from coming back?


But hear me out: Twilight met other versions of her pony friends in each timeline, but not herself (or Spike or Starlight) right? So I think that also a Version of her exists in each timeline, but as she travels to one timeline, her version from this timeline travels to the timeline Twilight came from. So the Original timeline has a version of Twilight that will (hopefully) be able to figure things out and stay in the original timeline.<br>Gosh I hope this makes sense at all

But hear me out: Twilight met other versions of her pony friends in each timeline, but not herself (or Spike or Starlight) right? So I think that also a Version of her exists in each timeline, but as she travels to one timeline, her version from this timeline travels to the timeline Twilight came from. So the Original timeline has a version of Twilight that will (hopefully) be able to figure things out and stay in the original timeline.
Gosh I hope this makes sense at all


As much as I like this theory I believe it isnt accurate. If we're assuming the time traveling ponies are disappearing from the OG timeline then we should definitely see their duplicates in the other timelines. We  know that the OG ponies aren't replacing their past selves and as such we would see some interaction with them.<br>I personally think that they were changing their own timeline and eventually kept it the same as before

As much as I like this theory I believe it isnt accurate. If we're assuming the time traveling ponies are disappearing from the OG timeline then we should definitely see their duplicates in the other timelines. We  know that the OG ponies aren't replacing their past selves and as such we would see some interaction with them.
I personally think that they were changing their own timeline and eventually kept it the same as before


I came up with this exact headcanon myself to explain all the inconsistencies between the past MLP comics (up till #50) and the show!


There is only one timeline that Starlight , Twilight and Spike returned to. This is because the rainboom not happening created other timelines where the mane  six were never there so the ponies themselves don’t change the timeline. This time the rainboom happened which means that the young mane six would meet each other and everything would happen as it has so they return back to their present timeline.


While fun to think about, I don't think it's possible for the 3 time travellers to just disappear from the original timeline. Especially considering there's only one of each of them in the final timeline we do know. Even among the multiverse, mass can not be created nor destroyed. Theoretically, no timeline will result in their absences if a given timeline has no duplicate ponies


Here's an interesting crack theory, what if the destroyed, apocalyptic timeline Twilight took Starlight to show her what could happen if the rainboom never occurred WAS the original timeline? We never actually saw anypony from that world or any indication of what happened for that matter and considering all the chaos Twilight, Spike, and Starlight all stopped I can totally see the world falling into utter destruction without them. Not to mention how the main six would've dealt with anything with out Twi there to lead them. I'm sure they could've continued living their lives but for the elements to truly be at their strongest they needed all of them together or knowing they were together even apart from the others physically. Chrysalis would've taken over only for Cozy Glow to take away all magic in Equestria like you said in the video. Without magic and Chrysalis ruling over everything, the world would be doomed for complete annihilation, probably tearing itself apart until nothing but a dead decaying wasteland was left behind like we saw in canon. It's just a quick crack theory I thought up and i'm sure there's tons of plot holes if you took more than 10 seconds to think on it but I thought it would be an interesting idea given the context of your theory.


Well this Theory got dark really quickly, you were really channeling your inner Matpat here. Also to add my own two cents on the matter, from what I've seen from most other media that deals with time travel, if you go back in time but don't change anything then the timeline you left will stay the same and there won't be a huge branch, in fact the timeline will merge with the original timeline like you said. Between the two outcomes for the original timeline more willing to believe the the 2nd idea more than the 1st of the original timeline becoming another Chrysalis and/or Cozy Glow timeline.


Now I'm wondering if different dimensions share the same timeline or not because Twilight couldn't answer Sunset's magic book call in Friendship Games because, as she said herself, she was stuck in the time travel loop.


It is quite possible, with a specific set of time travel logic, that the first world and the one they end up in is simply the same. It is quite possible that their time travel was always supposed to happen and in fact did take place in the same world where we assume they never went back in time, which would lead them to go back in time reagrdles, it is a never ending loop that would constantly replay itself in the past.


Another awesome video, i always look forward to your videos


Unless we have a time loop! Starlight and co WERE there, and were always MEANT to be there. I don't think it qualifies as a bootstrap paradox, but what if the little bit of extra magic in the world, caused by the presence of an extra alicorn and a unicorn , both of whom are temporal duplicates (means that they exist twice due to time travel) and  in close proximity is what gave Rainbow Dash  just enough of a boost for her sonic first rainboom? If they weren't there the first time then there might not have been a rainboom so they wouldn't be able to go back to stop the rainboom so it would have happened then wouldn't have happened there the second time...which is also the first time...I have a headache... So maybe they had to be there forthere to be a sonic rainboom in the first place. Time has a way of reclaiming it's own, and she will teach a harsh lesson if need be! (may have watched too much Dr Who at this point.) Time, like Death War and Pestilence etc is a living being (again may have read too much Terry Pratchett...nope not possible!)


This is a cool idea. I personally think if they didn't do anything to cause any major changes, things would probably go back to being the same, or the timelines would merge.
UNLESS...
If there was even ONE curious colt/filly at the Cloudsdale school that happened to see the trio, they may approach a teacher about it. If the teachers took them seriously, that might lead to a search/lockdown/whatever if the school assumes any intruders on the school campus would have malicious intent. The kids might go home and tell their parents about it, they may get concerned and talk amongst each other, causing a mass panic or encouraging any authority to try and take extra precautions around the school, which may have other repercussions. If any kind of talk like that made it to the surface...
Well, THEN we may have another timeline...


Well........ Seeing as how they returned to a timeline in wich they departed there is no reason to believe (in my mind) that this timeline is a different one from that which Starlight initially cast the spell. The only "original timeline" would be one in which no spell was cast. For this timeline to exist there must be a sequence where Starlight fails but Twilight is effectively removed.


Sawtooth should make a playlist of this series of theories about time travel that feature nameless du-
sorry, nameless one

Sawtooth should make a playlist of this series of theories about time travel that feature nameless du-
sorry, nameless *one*


Don't you think we already caught a glimpse of that abandoned world? Remember the one that had nothing in it. It was just a flat deserted place.


I like your flowers :3<br>I don't think that there is an abandoned timeline. I think that the rainboom brought them back into the main time line. I also think that, because they always returned to stop or make the rainboom happen, deleted the future of this time line, because it was kinda rebooted.

I like your flowers :3
I don't think that there is an abandoned timeline. I think that the rainboom brought them back into the main time line. I also think that, because they always returned to stop or make the rainboom happen, deleted the future of this time line, because it was kinda rebooted.


I was writing my comment and thinking about it in the same time, and I discovered it goes even deeper!
Here is my whole thinking process as I wrote it

That's...
Right...
There is no reason this time travel works differently than the previous ones, so it must have opened a new timeline too...

But wait, if the time travelers ended up in a timeline that isn't theirs... Where are their alter egos from this timeline?

Oooooh... o-o
They traveled in time too! O-O
So the Starlight, Twilight and Spike of this new timeline traveled in time just the same as in the original timeline. So they created new timelines too!
It's a time split turning into a timeloop creating time splits!
So there is an infinite number of timelines opened at this point! An infinite number of Chrysalis timelines, an infinite number of Nightmare Moon timelines, an infinite number of Sombra timelines, an infinite number of this new unexpected timeline...

But still, only one of the original and forgotten timeline.

That's terrifying

Let's just consider there is a Superior Entity of Time who decided to stop this mess and to not open a new timeline when they didn't try to prevent the Rainboom.


Sadly, I think that you were right with your first assumption. I don't think that timelines can be corrected once their past’s have been differentiated so I believe that it wouldn’t have been fixed because its past was already altered by Starlight, Spike, and Twilight being there and I'm sorry, but I'm not going to wonder what might have happened in that unknowable timeline because Pinkie Pie would still be in it and who knows what she's really capable of. Maybe she just deflated after the loss of a good friend and maybe she...hmm..how can I say this...oh yeah, ...didn’t


Timelinr theories are cool, and it's more cool when sathwooth talks about it


love the theory but then it begs the question as to what happened to twilight spike and starlight of the new (non abandoned timeline) because obviously there werent two of each of these characters when the 3 returned. My theory is that the 3 from the abandoned timeline went to the new timelne while the 3 form the new timeline went to the abandoned timeline. So essentially they just switched timeline i suppose lol


This is a pretty dark Theory……I love it.


Winter would have consumed the Crystal Empire but they would probably have just abandoned it, or Equestria could have put their resources and knowledge into fixing things. The Chrysalis second invasion is more interesting, as people would have noticed. Imagine a party made up of Discord, Maud, and the CMC. The Changelings wouldn't have reformed (unless Thorax got involved a different way) but Maud definitely could have broken the throne without any magic, leaving Discord free to easily win the day. Cozy's no threat (yet) without the school as I have a theory she didn't even begin to form her plan until she met the CMC. None of S9 happens at all. The one thing that genuinely a threat to Equestria without Twilight or Starlight? Celestia and Luna's issues from Royal Problem.


Here are other things to think about. With Fluttershy gone Discord would try to take her back and fail, even if he doesn’t go to the hive when Cozyglow goes through with her plan his magic would be gone. Maybe instead of learning about the magic relics from twilight’s school she could find the items of the pillars. Or even without spike maybe there would be a dragon changeling war.


In the abandon timeline cosyglow could be a good guy part of the Rebellion and will use that type of magic to get rid of magic to save a questionnaire from changelings without their magic they couldn't transform making them easy to fine


I was wondering which could be very very wrong but what if when they entered a new timeline, the memories they had made with ponies there disappeared meaning when they abandoned them, it would seem as if they never existed in their original timeline in the first place?


Maybe whoever Celestia finds to replace Twilight will end up doing almost all the same things and so the timeline remains stable (no pun intended. ...okay sure, pun intended). This is when the trope of fate might come in...if the fated one is removed, is the nature of fate such that fate will find another way, aka another fated one?<br>Unless, of course, it was fated that the fated one would be removed and thus all their doings fail... 0.0

Maybe whoever Celestia finds to replace Twilight will end up doing almost all the same things and so the timeline remains stable (no pun intended. ...okay sure, pun intended). This is when the trope of fate might come in...if the fated one is removed, is the nature of fate such that fate will find another way, aka another fated one?
Unless, of course, it was fated that the fated one would be removed and thus all their doings fail... 0.0


If Chrysalis took over, Discord would've tried to stop her. Hard to tell who'd would win that considering Chrysalis' hive cancels out even his powerful magic. If he failed then following that The Storm King may have tried to go to war with the Changelings. Or even the dragons or yaks.


Wait! Wait! Wait! If this happened... what happened to the twilight, starlight and spike of that universe that our twilight spike and starlight ended up in. Surely it would eventually end up with a perfect loop? Which could make the forgotten timeline invalid in the universe?


It would be awesome to see matpat make mlp theory’s


What if gen 5 is that forgotten timeline with no more magic? We know the new main 5 are awear the main 6 existed, but there hasn't been any proof yet that Twilight was crowned the new ruler. So, we don't know what happened to her in the gen 5 timeline or if alicorns still exist there.


4:40 People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect: But actually, from a non-linear non-subjective viewpoint, It's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey, stuff.
But in all seriousness, timetravel is infinitely complex, so it's easier to just handwave this and say it's ok.
But what I want to know is, what's the history of the "Wasteland timeline"? I've always thought of it as a nod to the Fallout:Equestria fanfic, but could it be something different?


yeah, i prefear the timeline where all things go KBOOM so hard than not even the power of friendship cant do shit


After Chrysilis took over, Cosy Glow explained her ideas to get rid of the magic of the last ponies. Chrysilis would do just that. She would take the last ponies as slaves, even Cosy. Eventually, ponies will go extincted. Thorax and you would be found and slain. Without pony magic, Tirek, and eventually Grogar, would escape. That future would look like the apocolypse world in only a few years. If not the apocolypse world, then a "Grogar took over" world. Either way, changelings would also get driven to extinction. The hybrids would take over in the Grogar world. No trace of pony kind will remain. Equestria would vanish. Nothing of the past remains.


I do bring up the fact that twilight's friends didn't seem surprised that Twilight and Spike were suddenly there. Then is there another Twilight in this timeline that got displaced?


we mortals may not understand how time as a whole plays out, not in this realm of the existing universe


Soooo the timeline in which AN ALICORN and A DRAGON were assisting RD's rainboom would be the one we were following<br>but what did that change ? Ponies who saw Twilight during the rainboom might remember her being there

Soooo the timeline in which AN ALICORN and A DRAGON were assisting RD's rainboom would be the one we were following
but what did that change ? Ponies who saw Twilight during the rainboom might remember her being there


I think the timelines could have merged and it would be a kind of Mandela effect situation.


If every alternative timeline still exist separetly then original is not the darkest one. Ponies still live their normal lives without knowing what happened.


Is it impossible that the wasteland future we see is actually the abandoned timeline, like they somehow jumped a bit further into the future?  With Twilight and Starlight absent from the Universe, you lose the final Element of Harmony and one of the most powerful Unicorns ever.  Most likely there will be war in Equestria from all the prevailing villains we see making returns in Seasons 6-9, mainly between Chrysalis and Sombra, but then you have the Storm King.  We don't know exactly what he and his forces are capable of against the villains from the show, but the rest of the world outside of Equestria is under his domain.  If he's able to take over the whole world and Equestria seems to be easy to take over as well, maybe this is what it's like under his rule when you don't have the Elements of Harmony in totality to fend off from evil, it eventually results in something unsustainable.  Those petrifying orbs could be used against everyone that poses a threat, even Discord and Tirek if you are able to sneak up on them.  You may have revolt from within the ranks, but now that's Civil War with everyone fighting yet again, further destroying everything.   There's no guarantee that even the Hippogryphs/Seaponies would even be safe as the oceans still rely on the land and air to function properly, and given what we see, it's nothing but desolation, a world blanketed in ash everywhere, the plants aren't getting enough sun (Is it even moving?) in order for the food chain to be replenished, it will just become predators eating each other to extinction, and then what?  All life has to start basically from scratch.  The darkest timeline may be the one we saw since we have no reference for what caused it, and even the table was missing, meaning that Twilight and Starlight could have gone just a bit further down the timeline and didn't realize it.  I know that's not how the spell had been working, but you know, what else would have caused all that? Each timeline showed a villain the Mane Six had faced before come to power, suggesting that nobody that wasn't defeated originally came before Starlight went back in time, any new villains showed up afterward.  The new villains were never apprehensive to showing up to Equestria because of the Mane Six, they were going to show up regardless, they just showed up later.  The only thing that makes sense to me is that the wasteland we see is a jump a little bit further into the future.


Well this just changed the way I view time travel forever


okay but here's a question, if the three truly did disappear from their timeline to another, shouldn't they already exist in this new timeline? How come they don't see the other them like when past twilight saw future twilight that time or when twilight met the human version of her. Matter of fact how come we've never seen twilight, spike, or starlight in the timelines she created? Could that have something to do with the spell, but as far as i know time travel should allow you to still exist in another timeline just like past and future twilight except if both were in the same timeline.........i'm confusing


Yikes. Well that´s depressing.....now, If you´ll excuse me, I´ll just go sit and cry in this dark corner for a couple of hours...


Wait a sec. That timeline could be the one that starts the Fallout: Equestria world... That's dark. But I think th timelines did merge somehow. That kinda make a lot of sense.


Technically we don't actually know 100% they weren't there. Maybe the timeline we've been watching this whole time was one where a loop already started. Similar to the Twilight overreaction thing we were already in the timeline where the loop began nothing says we weren't already in the timeline starlights loop began


I think the original timeline would become a wasteland with controlled ponies in it because all the villains would provail without twilight


I'd this theory is accurate, I wonder what that means in terms of the movie... Would we see a storm king invasion actually succeed?


Yes, but also remember that the only time we saw when the rainboom occurred was from rainbow dash's memories and obviously when starlight time travelled. Because this was one of rainbow dash's memories rainbow dash obviously didn't see starlight and twilight, meaning because rainbow dash was telling this... That starlight and twilight could have always been there in the first place... Meaning that there might not have been that timeline in there first place?


Do you think sawtooth is in denial about the new my little pony or just waiting until the movie comes out to start speculating


I just assumed that they always were there in the past, so they just returned back to their timeline.


What if the wasteland time line was the original timeline because if twilight wasn't there the crystal empire would have been distroyed , no one would have been able to use the elements of harmony so any threats to Equestria probably couldn't be combated so with enough time villains would eventually distroy Equestria.


I have a different theory

What if Twilight , Spicke and Starlight did went to another timeline and stayed there but what if in the original timeline another Twilight , spicke and starlight stayed there thinking that it was there timeline .  Its like a cicle of different Twilights , spickes and Starlights went into the other timelines of the other Twilight  , Spicke and Starlignts timeline    (Its like more of a happy ending:)


I think in the original timeline twi, star and spike still returned, in that timeline star, twi and spike never were in rainbow's past and in a different timeline they returned BUT rainbow did have them in her past, but let's just say that everyone (in that past) forgot about them (not to mention that this isn't much of a timeline anymore, but an AU)


He wants to learn about time?<br>Go to the door of space and time and find the Doors keeper guardian of the underworld, sailor Pluto, who has time powers, but it's forbidden to go there, so oop

He wants to learn about time?
Go to the door of space and time and find the Doors keeper guardian of the underworld, sailor Pluto, who has time powers, but it's forbidden to go there, so oop


but what if this was the same situation when Twilight wanted to warn herself ? What if even when they are in that timeline nothing changed, bcs they were there in the 1st place ?


hey sawtooth! i was just wondering, if youd like some new oc art to spice things up a little in your videos, id be more than happy to draw you some for free! ive got art examples up on instagram @anjariiwastaken if youre interested!!


This is definitely an interesting thought


What if cozy glow took over and teamed up with Tirek and Chrysalis and brought back King Sombra back too


As someone who once argue for three day on the fact you can save yourself if you get stuck in the past with a broken time machine by have a future version of you bringing you a working one.
I can get my head around time travel. Like in your video of twilight time paradox that just a causal loop where a future events affect a past event that result in the future to affect that same event .
This time travel can be explained by two way one how you explained it this is a different timeline as they never was at the rainboom originally or you can explain it as they where alway at the original rainboom and the spilt happen then it the timeline twilight convinces starlight not to affect it could be the original one


👁 👁 I’m really interested in the one with nothing but dust can u pls do a theory  on it


I thought about it when im first watched season 5 finale if they are coming back to timeline then why pinkie doesn't there? If you didn't get what i mean then watch season 5 finale again it makes sense with this theory by the way great theory


i wasn't expecting this to be a sad video-


Why didn't luna have a student? Because Twilight would then wouldn't have to raise the sun and moon as the new queen. <br>These are just my thoughts

Why didn't luna have a student? Because Twilight would then wouldn't have to raise the sun and moon as the new queen.
These are just my thoughts


if the old timeline that is abandoned is missing twilight spike and whatshername, then wouldn't the timelike their "returned to" have 2 of each then?


The other timelines aren’t a problem because they’ve already been pruned.


Cozy glow wouldn't have done anything in the original starlight, because she only done tge plan of draining magic because she studied in the friendship school, learning that friendship is power and she would want to erase all other magic


Pog Syannax is back on the good list. Whatever it was that went down those few months ago has finally been forgiven


I want to read a fanfic of this,what happened on the OG timeline and all that


🤯 how did I never think of this 🤯 and how do you think of such amazing theories 🤯


Even Twilight is not present, is possible the rest of the 5 mares try to do his best to fix things, they have Discord in his side, and despite  how he is, he do everything to protect Fluttershy


Wait, so if they created a new timeline, then what shouldn’t there be another twi? Or if there’s no other twi then wouldn’t the other be confused?


What if you did a theory on how Celestia got her rainbow hair ? Cause we a lot of pictures with celestia haveing pink hair but what if when she used the eliments together instead of separat like the main 6 it change her hair <br>Permanently.

What if you did a theory on how Celestia got her rainbow hair ? Cause we a lot of pictures with celestia haveing pink hair but what if when she used the eliments together instead of separat like the main 6 it change her hair
Permanently.


But in the new timeline twilight,starlight and spike were in ,there would be another twilight, starlight and spike or maybe they just went back to the original timeline they came from and did not travel forward in time😕


it would make for a cool fanfic i know that. the abandoned timeline


What if we have seen the original timeline?

I know where the abandoned timeline is. It’s G5!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe cozy glow did take over the magic and sent it away. It would explain why there are unicorn toys of Twilight but no Alicorn toys. After Equestria falls to both chritlsis and she falls to Cozy glow ponies start blaming the events on Twilight. Upset at this because she was a unicorn first unicorn shut the Pegasus and earth ponies out. Upset at the refusal both Pegasus and earth ponies do the same. Desperate to save everyone Celestia cast a mega spell or even become daybreaker killing all windegos. Unfortunately it is too late and Equestria is divided once more.


I started following recently and finally you posted I didn't know  2 weeks are sooooooo long😦


Him: this timeline is forgotten and forever altered
Me: L o k I  A p o c a l y p s e

Him: this timeline is forgotten and forever altered
Me: *L o k I  A p o c a l y p s e*


i relly love your videos<br> they are great i allways watch one of them when i get in to youtube

i relly love your videos
 they are great i allways watch one of them when i get in to youtube


But if the main 6 in the original timeline still have the elements of harmony they would just need to fine a kanddidt to acatiavat them and bing bang boom problem solved


well I don't think this is the case bc if they did go to a different universe I'm sure there would be a 2nd twilight spike and sunset how would just being there would get rid of them

Cuz different timelines aren’t different physical universes like the equestria girls world <br>They’re just different timelines so there’d only be one twilight etc for all timelines

Cuz different timelines aren’t different physical universes like the equestria girls world
They’re just different timelines so there’d only be one twilight etc for all timelines


Note how he has been doing alot of time related vids recently.<br>Suspicious.......

Note how he has been doing alot of time related vids recently.
Suspicious.......


I agree sort of! I believe because they fixed the time line right? The rainboom still happened! So the original equestria would be replaced ish but everything was carried over!! So the original equestria would have Twilight spike and starlight! (I know my version sounds very similar but I think it's true!)
Like I said the original would be gone BUT it turned into the new equestria! So the nightmare moon defeat would of happened in the replacement equestria! If you know what i mean!
Btw I love your videos I love mlp and I find this stuff so intresting! :))


Wait but if those two timelines we're identical shouldn't that Twilight do the same thing so there will be still a twilight in the Forgotten world


i think that they went back to their time line if they didnt then there would be two of all of them walking around but technically they did change something so it did make another timeline other ponies could have seen them they may not have changed much but if a pony saw an alicorn twilight and then years later remembered it and met unicorn twilight they would know she became a princess so there could be another timeline were rainbowdash knows twilight is destined to be a princess


IS THERE EVER A TIME U DON'T MAKE SENSE ??
edit: i did not realize the caps lock was turned on
I was not being sarcastic
i really meant that
i mean u always make sense and my mind i blows off when ur video ends
U R "THE" MLP GENIUS
Double edit: U r the best MLP fan
normally people call themselves the biggest fan of what they love
but i say u r a better MLP fan anyone could be !!!
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if they went to a completely different timeline where is the twilight, spike, and starlight from the second timeline? I think they probably came back together or its the whole thing similar to twilight going back in time in its about time. though when they went back in time no one including rainbow dash and fluttershy noticed them and thats why their presence is not mentioned or shown in the episode the cutie mark chronicles.


Remembering your previous time travel theory.  We are already in an altered timeline.  So it's too late to dramatize!

ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE OF THE OTHER TIMELINE IS A FUCKING DESERT LAND!


Okay but like watching this broke me I- wow


No i think that rainbow dash would of seen twilight and became friends years later, but forgot  she saw twilight in the past. But it's a good theory sawtooth.


Please after watching Loki I don't think what you're talking about is impossible-


I don’t think you right wouldn’t there bin a pony who will search for all possibilities and will come on time travel and found the spell is missing and find out?


No matter what most MLP videos will be about G4 change my mind


Meh. I guess you ARE right about the forgotten world. Well, I hope there is: it would be a dream come true for me!

No, I guess the those time thingies DID join back together. But I wish there WAS a forgotten world! Don't you?


Funniest thing I have heard all day
Nameless: do I look like a search Engine to you, oh I have a time travel question why don’t I just NAMELESS IT.
Me: trying not to die of laughter

I wonder if someone will make that a meme I mean the search engine


i still think the desolate one was the fallout equestria world


But the paper with the Spell was destined gone so I think it’s still Normal


I wonder who celestias new star pupil would be


Just get Rick's portal gun and everything will be fine.


It is an interesting idea I won't deny it but once saying doesn't make sense to me is. Why did a tag go back to that timeline we see them went to the other timeline so possible to go back to that one. I still like the video🙂


I think you got Regular time travel and Multiverse travel mix up. if it is Multiverse travel, if you have interfere it, those timeline are still going to continue on. but if it is Rerular time trave , what you did to interfere it will overwrite the timeline like a save file. such as, if you go back in time to help someone become artist, bam! history is overwrited. it is still your world but lot of thing will be change. So each time starlight prevent the Rainboom, she not create new timeline, she overwrite those timeline you talk about. and of course, Twiligh Spike and Starlight being there and do noting will be part of it history too.


I feel like half of the people in the comments are tweens and teens but still are obsessed with a cartoon meant for 4 year olds..


This might be the Creepist Video you have Ever made if your right then this changes how i feel about the show as a Whole knowing this i never even thought of this it never came to me i mean we still have the Ogrinal Twilight and she just happens to be my fav is the Og Pinkie Rainbow Fluttershy Rarety are just Gone thats so creepy i hope your wrong for the Mane 6s sake im Shocked you did not Mention how Diffrent EqG Forgotten Friendship would be sinces Susnet would never know about the Mind stone


What if there are altarnate Twilight, Spike and Starlight.


It's just like Coraline's theory.. Very creepy.


My little pony: Into the Abandoned Pony Verse


You know in the real world you know of my little pony who is the Real sunset glimmer Because we know sunset glimmer comes from the pony world shouldn’t there be another sunset glimmer in the real world ?


That original timeline isn’t where Frostbolt is from. Unfortunately, it leads to JYC Rows Final Eclipse. Not good.


What about if the Dazzlings weren't defeated?


Sawtooth can you make Miss Cinch evil plan for the wole time  and the <br>Time Sphare pls ??????

Sawtooth can you make Miss Cinch evil plan for the wole time  and the
Time Sphare pls ??????


I got one what the EG would be like without Twilight sunset will go into all of the other dimensions and might even go to the one with Twilight starlight and Spike! 😱😰! And the main five wouldn't have power up without Twilight and the other Twilight from Crystal prep would be the new Twilight but understand sunset control they would be the mean 7 and make a unstoppable team! 😭 Time travel is scary! 😥


If there's a 9th timeline<br>Would it also affect the human world were Sunset Shimmer and her friends live

If there's a 9th timeline
Would it also affect the human world were Sunset Shimmer and her friends live

If you think about it
Without Starlight going to the human world she wouldn't be able to freed the others from the magical mirror
And without Twilight, Sunset probably wouldn't be able to recover the memories of the Canterlot High students in time


maybe it'd just be a forever loop
like it started with the rainboom, then all that other stuff, and then twilight stopped starlight from stopping the rainboom
then the rainboom happened again and all that other stuff and then twilight stopped starlight from stopping the rainboom
then the rainboom happened again and all that other stuff and then twilight stopped starlight from stopping the rainboom

see where i'm going with this?


ya well this theory is deffinatily true like im right right


What if this has to do with G5 and G5 take place in the original world and this is why there's no magic in equastria


For some reason, I thought about the Loki series.


All I can think about is the flash in this


no wonder the rest of series wasn’t as good

bro why did I say that on a public platform


Hello! There’s this cool AU called the bad ending AU by lilezbean on instergram and there TikTok is lil_gay_looser is about what if twilight died (well every pony thinks she’s dead)from the power the princess gave her to fight tereck it’s a little bit confusing to type it all out but if u follow them they tall the AU better then I do 😅


What if starlight and twilight were already in the og rainboom the camera just didn’t film them


I think they wen’t back to there timeline. And I have proof. Think about if say Twilight, Spike, and Starlight did go to a new timeline then what happened to the Twilight, Spike, and Starlight in that world? Would they stay or would they go to Twilight, Spike, and Starlight original timeline. And sure maybe there were no Twilight, Spike, and Starlight in that timeline but then how was the castle there and how would the mane five know them. That’s why I think they wen’t back to there timeline.


Your theory is really good but it cannot be true for mlp <br>Cause it's too creepy and l don't think that it is true

Your theory is really good but it cannot be true for mlp
Cause it's too creepy and l don't think that it is true

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What if you were wrong!! What if Twilight,Spike,Starlight were always there but because when we saw Rainbow get her cutie mark it was foc used we didn't see them.


The thumb nail is so cool! To cool its scaring me-


But sawtooth what about the storm king, would there be a war between the storm king and the other villains


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I don't think that would be true because where are this timeliness original twilight, spike, and starlight then because them just being there would not just delete twilight, spike, and starlight because there was two of them at that time.


But hold on... if this is a second timeline, where are the second Twilight, Starlight or Spike?<br>Oh, of course! Since nothing is changed, they travelled back in time and were essentially replaced with the trio from the first timeline, but then they branched off into a third timeline, the trio from that timeline branched off into another timeline, and now we have another stable time loop with an unlimited number of alternate universes, but only one forgotten world.

But hold on... if this is a second timeline, where are the second Twilight, Starlight or Spike?
Oh, of course! Since nothing is changed, they travelled back in time and were essentially replaced with the trio from the first timeline, but then they branched off into a third timeline, the trio from that timeline branched off into another timeline, and now we have another stable time loop with an unlimited number of alternate universes, but only one forgotten world.


Im going to say your wrong. Not because I have evidence otherwise, not because I disagree but to keep my sanity


sawtooth wave's you should do a video of why sunset shimmer does not have to people of her self 1st pony version 2nd equestria girls because there is 2 twilight sparkles


Good theorie but there another thing(it doesnt have to so with this theorie)In the legend of everfree human twilight haved alicorn wings but when Sunset,human rainbow dash and human twilight got trapped in equestria(human twilight didnt have her wings)


How about you just ask nameless for you to go to the other Universe the see if you're right

Wouldn't work since they must ask the writers to see if that was true, to get an answer first


What if my little pony and digimon meet eachother

How all the my littel pony carecters react if tey see omegamon faight diaboromon to the death


That's awesome theory but I do not think that episode of mlp does was not made like that 3 of them get forgot


OMG THAT IS SOOOOO TRUE UR RIGHT OMG NOOOOO


Nothing has changed only thing that has changed is the one little part will still a glamorous bike in Twilight sparkle theme there is nothing you change the was just that when I saw them there may be no phone even saw them there nothing changed but somebody did see them may be in their mind there will still be there but this is just like the timeless style like didn't go and just tried to stop the rain Boom


Maybe we’ll get some more answers with g5


But if they have go to the copie world than the clone Twillight starlight.. will show up


What to say is true about the timelines and realities create a Nest offense maybe could be the Multiverse or another Ultra reality who knows maybe Twilight her friends discovered all the mythology like Norse mythology Greek mythology Irish mythology All  mythologys

what is this person talking about because I can't seem to figure out what this means basically.


Do not mess up the mystery fo my Little pony okay???


What hapend to the 3 in the new timline what if its just a loop<br>Like rhe timline that we know in the original timline they go in to another one but what hapend to the rest of them the 3 don't see themselves wich means thay ither dide or... its just a large loop

What hapend to the 3 in the new timline what if its just a loop
Like rhe timline that we know in the original timline they go in to another one but what hapend to the rest of them the 3 don't see themselves wich means thay ither dide or... its just a large loop


Wel;l they returned and since they did they didnt change any thing but that does mean rainbow dash will be confused 🤔 but at leasat since there weren’t any vilons staking but as we all know they returned so non of this happen at all preaty confusing right?


If you don’t like what they can do so in all the time like me but if she doesn’t remember they said they may not sick sick


Hey! I think the true world would be horrible, worst of all, the elements of harmony would not work, for no one will wear the element of magic! And remember when rarity said they’d be lost without her, easy to think, but they WILL be lost!!! It might be crazy! 😥😥😥😥


The forgten world is the abandoned world 😏⚘I am going to have a little baby sister she s cute 🍕I am eating pizza😋😍🙄😏


It's a shame they didnt think ahead like in futurama. But this is a good example of a closed loop system. The rainboom has to happen in order for Starlight to go back in the first place. The rainboom has to be completed for the world to return. So their shenanigans are within a closed loop.

If they planned ahead, they could have snuck in twi,star and spike in the background of the rainboom cutiemark episode.


Why do you have to put scary music on I’m not really long doing my homework and watching yeah


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W-wait Rainbow is the reason why twilight became an alicorn why she do not become an alicorn you said if the rainboom dont happen all of the things we know is imposible to happen.......If you have a comment notify me i get the wrong spelling😇😇😇😇😇😂😂😂😂🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈


not to be mean but I hope your wrong because that will be really sad I am even crying in real life 😭😭😭


Causing not only a cutiemark but new horn causing a alicorn that looks like the alicorn I morphed into just like you did when u abandoned the hive so did I this new alicorn might have a new barrier if you could therise it for me or if the nameless one does it for me because I'm a getting a headache try to do it..


No u r not right about th rainboom time line

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Your theories always are amazing! this theory makes me think a lot of different universes. And other possible ones.


I love Sawtooth! They are so great and their theories are amazing! 😊


i don’t know what it is but every theory/analysis you do sounds canon. maybe it’s the production or how in depth you go but it sounds like it’s canon and it’s all gorgeous. i love your videos 😍


This is a nice theory, but it falls apart when you consider there has to be another pair of Twilight /Starlight /Spike if we assume this is not their original timeline as it is so similar .
Because there is only one pair of Twilight /Starlight /Spike it implies they returned to their own timeline or just traded places with their counterparts.

It wouldn't be a huge leap of logic to think that Starlight has enough power and skill to pull off a return trip to a specific timeline instead of another one.
But let's assume for a moment that she doesn't... IF it isn't the original timeline then the question becomes where did the Twilight /Starlight /Spike from the new timeline go ?
And If there never was a Twilight /Starlight /Spike in the new timelines past, it would not be that similar as the others would not recognise them.

If we assume that Twilight /Starlight /Spike ended up in a new timeline, then the Twilight /Starlight /Spike from this new timeline has to have gone somewhere too .
Since we don't see a bunch of time travelling versions of Twilight /Starlight /Spike it's likely they returned home to their own timeline or that they just ended up in a timeline so similar they themselves never noticed the difference and life carries on with the difference so small nobody notices.

The act of Twilight /Starlight /Spike going back in time and moving around a few clouds could make a new timeline, but the difference is likely minor.
Unless of course, the butterfly effect kicks into overdrive as a few clouds in the wrong place is unlikely to have a huge impact on its own.
Regardless if they return to their own timeline or not, there would most likely not be a timeline where Twilight /Starlight /Spike disappeared.
( unless they somehow got stuck in time for another reason, but at that point, we are going into a 10th timeline and not a 9th. )
At that point, anything can happen as we have moved into  " what if " territory and are making assumptions outside of what we can see in the original show.

This is a nice theory, but it falls apart when you consider *there has to be another pair of Twilight /Starlight /Spike if we assume this is not their original timeline as it is so similar* .
Because there is only one pair of Twilight /Starlight /Spike it implies they returned to their own timeline or just traded places with their counterparts.

It wouldn't be a huge leap of logic to think that Starlight has enough power and skill to pull off a return trip to a specific timeline instead of another one.
But let's assume for a moment that she doesn't... *IF it isn't the original timeline then the question becomes where did the Twilight /Starlight /Spike from the new timeline go* ?
And If there never was a Twilight /Starlight /Spike in the new timelines past, it would not be that similar as the others would not recognise them.

*If we assume that Twilight /Starlight /Spike ended up in a new timeline, then the Twilight /Starlight /Spike from this new timeline has to have gone somewhere too* .
Since we don't see a bunch of time travelling versions of Twilight /Starlight /Spike it's likely they returned home to their own timeline or that they just ended up in a timeline so similar they themselves never noticed the difference and life carries on with the difference so small nobody notices.

The act of Twilight /Starlight /Spike going back in time and moving around a few clouds *could* make a new timeline, but the difference is likely minor.
Unless of course, the butterfly effect kicks into overdrive as a few clouds in the wrong place is unlikely to have a huge impact on its own.
Regardless if they return to their own timeline or not, there would most likely not be a timeline where Twilight /Starlight /Spike disappeared.
( unless they somehow got stuck in time for another reason, but at that point, we are going into a 10th timeline and not a 9th. )
At that point, anything can happen as we have moved into  " what if " territory and are making assumptions outside of what we can see in the original show.


I actually love the theory of a 9th timeline where the one we started with died with the others and the one the show ended in was another paradox


Some of the biggest questions I've always had about this two-parter, was, how did the others get their cutie marks? They seem to be doing what they were doing in the main timeline, just more dark, but how did they figure that out? How didn't they end up in Ponyville together, assuming their cutie marks are the same in the other timelines? and, where is Twilight? Did she still get a magic cutie mark even though she's didn't get in magic school? And, did any of them try to take over the human world, and what came of that? One of them had to find the portal, it was in the Canterlot Castle before being moved.


Interesting.
I guess with the first theory it means twilight starlight and spike are the most important ones to the timeline
And nameless is now being taken for granted


this entire thing had me like DAAYYYYYYUM :0 <br>I did have a similar theory but never thought much about it. glad you did it and this is out now!! :D

this entire thing had me like DAAYYYYYYUM :0
I did have a similar theory but never thought much about it. glad you did it and this is out now!! :D


I feel like in Twilight's absence at least some stuff could change for the better, Trixie, no longer having anyone to one-up could take on a more Twilight esc. role.

Discord, knowing that the world won't be the same without Twilight could help the Mane 6 with their battles, perhaps out of obligation to Fluttershy.

Who knows, maybe in a trip for guidance, Sunset Shimmer visits Equestria. And seeing how it's fallen in Twilights absence could start living in both realms, maybe rising to Alicorn status herself and regaining her position as Celestias apprentice.

We really don't know but it's really cool to think about other characters reactions to Twilight, Spike, and Starlights disappearance.


It would make a lot of sense if that dark eventual timeline would happen to the first timeline but I kind of think that wouldn't work because despite the small difference, everything that happened after the Rainboom that Starlight, Spike and Twilight witnessed, everything must've a lined afterwards.


Well, if we consider Discord to be one for all universes and timelines, then the original timeline might go in whole different direction


Wow! You just blew my mind!
That might isn't the original timeline after the S5 finale anymore!
But the definite answer still depends on how exactly time travel works. (Theoretically the answer should be "It doesn't")

I have a question: Wouldn't the alternate-timeline/new-primary-timeline have a Twilight too? Does that one travel away or are there 2 Twilights now? Wait wouldn't it be that way that each Twilight from these almost-identical-timelines gets "offset" by one timeline then? (Because Starlight time travelling most likely would still happen)

However, I am still not that convinced that Equestria's fate depends on just 6 ponies. There would be far too many problems for them to handle, Equestria probably has many other protection measurements which we just haven't seen.

Wow! You just blew my mind!
That might isn't the original timeline after the S5 finale anymore!
But the definite answer still depends on how exactly time travel works. (Theoretically the answer should be "It doesn't")

I have a question: Wouldn't the alternate-timeline/new-primary-timeline have a Twilight too? Does that one travel away or are there 2 Twilights now? Wait wouldn't it be that way that each Twilight from these almost-identical-timelines gets "offset" by one timeline then? (Because Starlight time travelling most likely would still happen)

However, I am still not that convinced that Equestria's fate depends on just 6 ponies. There would be _far_ too many problems for them to handle, Equestria probably has many other protection measurements which we just haven't seen.


I think that Starlight, Twilight, and Spike were always present at the event of the rainboom, even before Starlight cast the spell. I just believe that’s how time travel would work: if you were there, you were there, even if you haven’t yet made the decision that would cause you to be there.


It makes sense in the fact that time travel theoretically work so that every single action has an effect on the future


Wow, that can actually explain why next seasons of mlp wasnt that good - it just was another timeline universe!


What do you think about Chrysalis ex-alicorn theory?
What if I would say that princess in the CMC's (love poison legend) book was nopony else but Chrysalis herself. After she was afected by the potion for to long so the spell was impossible to reverse (like happened to Big Mac and Cherile) someone tried to seperate them anyway. Who knows, mabe even Celestia herself had to interfere (that would explain why they looked like if they had known each other for so long and so on...).
That explains why she is so starved for love :3


You never fail us Sawtooth 😂

Seriously tho it videos are awesome 🤩


Considering that the bootstrap paradox is completely functional in this timeline; implying that this world is based less on free will and more on destiny, so I don't think any of the parallel timeliness ever really existed...


Hm, interesting. That makes me wonder how exactly things did go down in that other timeline. I'm just thinking that someone would've convinced Discord to try and help and Chrysalis wouldn't have succeeded.

Edit: but then again, they'd be completely reliant on Discord. Is that such a good plan?


I’m genuinely curious how do you come up with these theories and ideas and answers


Uhm. I'm sorry. My biggest issue with this theory... if it's another timeline where's this new time line's Twilight and them?

Three characters who would've went unnoticed wouldn't have done anything to this world's timeline as they've not interacted with the past in any meaningful way.


If Im going with Loki's Theory(From Loki the Tv show), If you go back in time and youre presence doesnt really do anything to make a change, then the world Twilight and the others came back too could still be the same.


I think the timelines didn't get created, but rather there is one timeline that has it's events constantly altered by Starlight.


Oh gosh, this theory was really sad, but very interesting at the same time.


Interesting and chilling theory, but I don't agree with it. I just think in the original timeline they simply reappeared from the future and then went back to the present day from everypony else's point of view, but Twilight, Spike, and Starlight, are the only ones that went through that entire adventure of time travel and alternate timelines.


The timelines merged, or at least formed a stable loop. Proof? What happened to 2nd timeline Spike, Twilight, and Starlight? Probably went "out" of time, same as "ours"...so they probably rested in another "new" timeline formed after viewing the rainboom. So the "original" timeline probably either received it's original S, S, and T, or a previous copy that looped back from saving different timelines.


You have a point actually. There could have been a possiblity that Twilight, Spike and Starlight didn’t come back to the same dimention…But in another universe they would have….. Wich actually asks me in the universe that Twilight Spike and Starlight went back to… Would they have known about Starlight and knew why she didn’t come back? Would equestria still suffer because there not here?
Well actually I dont think so. I think the main six-I mean five would have known that Twilight wouldn’t want to see equestria like this so they would still stop the vilians. Leaving to who would be Celestias student well I think it should be none other than….
Sunset Shimmer.


This kinda feels like an Twilight Zone episode too me


When I came across this channel I didn't realize it would become one of my favourites on yt

The first video I watched on this channel was Reforming Chrysalis. I immediately subscribed after that.


Honestly I think they went back to the first timeline where they came together


Nameless salt is best salt! 😂

An interesting theory which unfortunately I suppose we'll never know the answer to.


If your first idea of a new time line came true then Flurry would be chosen to be the next ruler of equestria scenes she’s clearly alicorn worthy, and if chrysalis plans truly have to unfold Thorax would have decided enough is enough and join equestria to help stop chrysalis which would lead into a war between Equestria and the Hive


sooo, the original timeline would end up without magic.. and the G5 apparently has no magic. would that mean that G5 will be the same as the original timeline where Twilight, Spike and Starlight vanished?


Nothing like procrastinating to a sawtooth video.


Maybe the rest of the mane 6 would be the one turning to stone, and Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow would’ve successfully taken over Equestria since friendship wouldn’t be strong enough without Twilight, Starlight, and Spike.


If that is true then the moment pinkie enters the throne room just after they left is the saddest moment of the show


I have a feeling that after Twilight, Starlight and spike left the rest of the main 6 became there creepypasta selfs and pinkie met flippy that's where I think it went down hill with Pinkie turning her friends into cupcakes


I wonder what sawtooth actually looks like and if they'll ever do a face reveal 🤔


This is depressing but OOZING with fanfiction potential


The abandoned timeline might be the one that twighlight took starlight to!! We never did see what happened in that timeline


Love your videos dude, I keep up with them more than I keep up with university 😂


I mean yeah, as I said in the last video, if you change something in the past, the future also changes. So basically I’m the ‘original’ time line pretty sure the forgotten about twilight, starlight and spike and there was no ‘princess of friendship’ and maybe there was another princess who had been princess of something to manage things and it would be very different from the timeline which was not “original”


I mean..even though the theory is depressing..it makes more sense for there to now be two canonical timelines.. almost as if you chose to either not look both ways while crossing the street or looking both ways when you cross the street..it’s small but now there’d be a possible timeline in which you got hit by a car and everyone has to live on w/o you vs the you who will continue living on..a small change is still a change nonetheless..BUT in mlp..they kept going to the same original spot.. and the table was still there for no specific reason when none of the timelines should’ve had that table present to even begin with…so.. honestly even if it makes sense in the real world..they probably just ended up coming back to the original timeline..cuz..wibbly wobbly timey wimey…stuff..


I think there would still be 8 timelines because no one in equestria would have a memory of them and if they DID go to an alternate timeline Starlight, Twilight, and Spike would have clones and since two of you couldn’t exist, either way It would still be the same so, yeah, there are still 8 timelines


I think I have an answer to your question. you remember how when Twilight went back in time and saw all those different timelines what if they became what the future is in that world you know the one were Twilight Spike in Starlight weren't there for the rainbow boom think about it there series of events that happened so anything that was in the past wasn't changed but anything that happened that we know of still would have happened the changelings still would have taken over cozy glow and the villains wouldn't have been turned two Stone but the in Timeline the dust one I think is what happened if your theory is right but there is no way to know


Sawtooth you should make a remix about luster dawn like about her future and stuff it would be super cool!


What if the old timeline would be the one we're magic disappeared?
And it's because of cozy glow?
I'm talking about g5


The original timeline would be like:
Cozy Glow would be the empress of friendship, and rule Equestria.
There would be no magic cause of Cozy Glow.
Tirek would still be trapped in Tartarus.
Chrysalis where abouts may be unknown, or she is enslaved by Cozy Glow
But, this could all be wrong if discord prevented it, but I don’t think discord would know who Cozy Glow even is in the timeline.
Also can you do a theory of what it’s like in the mirror pool?


i think the timeline whould change if the kids racing saw her giving them a different memories then from the original timeline


This video had got me thinking now, and Nameless is now just fed up with Sawtooth XD Anyway, I do wonder now what would Equestria be like if the mane 6 couldn’t stop the Pony of Shadows with the Pillars assistance


What if the timeline where there was nothing but a wasteland <b>was</b> the original timeline?

What if the timeline where there was nothing but a wasteland *was* the original timeline?


It could also be possible that Twilight spike & starlight WERE there originally and they did go back to the original time line


I think its the same timeline because the staff wont do something that complicated


It might have been that the tree of harmony also decided to return them back to their original timeline since they didn't really do anything wrong and to prevent the bad things

Spoilers for bnha heroes rising movie
It's kind of like how when Deku transferred one for all to bakugo and then the previous 'ancestors' of one for all decided to return it to him because he risked his Life to save the island. That's how I look at it at least


Confirmed, Because when Starlight first casted the spell, Pinkie Pie was walking into the room with deserts when Spike and Twilight was sucked, But when they returned, The other girls was there and there was no sign of the cake

Pinkie Pie could have just ate the cake and cleaned the cake mess and left.


If it was true then it wouldn't just be queen chrysalis, cozy glow, or lord tirek it also be the father of monsters grogar himself returning from the shadows from which he escaped and equestria would be in grave danger.


I guess we will never know how time rilly works.


What if the original timeline did get a vist from twilight, spike and starlight? What if it was the destroyed timeline? All the villains after the time traveling event could have gone rouge and destroyed everything and everyone they’d please. Until there was nothing for them to survive on. It might be a stretch because of the shortness of the episode but time might work differently ,so who knows?


There's the infinite timeliness theory from Futurama where it becomes a loop where 1 and 7 timeliness go into 14 and 21 timeliness etc and loops back to timeline1


I mean the previous flashback episode where we see how they got their cutie marks and it’s all connected. Are we sure that this isn’t another loop thing. Where either rainbow fails or twilight watches her succeed.


Oh heck, I never thought about that. Personally I think the timelines probably merged after the loop was closed, though I obviously can't say for sure.

That said, if the old universe is still out there, that would explain why the time-travel scroll disappeared into the portal. It would've returned to the old timeline.


What if the 9th timeline is the newest mlp movie or show where no magic is there because of glow heart


What about Sunset Shimmer? Could they not have tried to contact her in the other world, since she could very well be the element of magic they could still use the elements


me: ugh, time to do some homework...
sees sawtooth posted a new video
me: my homework can wait!

me: ugh, time to do some homework...
*sees sawtooth posted a new video*
me: my homework can wait!


2:22 Chilling? I see it more as an open window of opportunities, that are waiting to be used. >:)


Yes! After 2 weeks we have another sawtooth vid!


But there is possibility that this is a time loop


they can't be diffrent timelines because if so there would have been two twilights


The eighth timeline that we saw could be the timeline you talked about


Do one about the chalkboard in cheeralees classroom having the same mathematical proof of god as that one formula Homer made when he removed the crayon from his head.


The portal to the human world connects to all of them, if your theory is true.


FINALLY A QUESTION THAT NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED!!!


Theres a problem, if you're theory is true, then there would be 2 twilights, 2 spikes, and 2 starlights


i actualli never thought of this, but im not too sure about it, i mean, time travel is really hard..


Fanfic writers go to your computers and write me a fanfic with this Theory. would be such an awesome story.


And maybe this abandoned timeline leads to the upcoming movie?


Well now I'm kind of Disturb..... Amazing theory though I really wouldn't never thought about that😌✋


it might be true. in the show madoka magica, thats what happens so it might happen in mlp


I was looking forward to this I screamed lol when I found out u posted :)


It is a great idea but I feel that if it happened Celestia and luna would try and might be able to cast a spell to bring them back because they are alicorns and would also say Star Swirl could also help them but this is before the mane six helped the Pillars escape from limbo and also if  this is true what if in the new my little pony movie is about that and in the trailer we see little stuff in the background of the mane six.


Sawtooth needs to do ASMR or something. /hj


What if the lost timeline is the origin of the gen5 timeline? :-o


The desert wasteland is probably She demon Sunset Shimmer’s dimension! Do how human Twilight aka Sci-Twi has wings but in spring breakdown she’s a unicorn


I personally think you ARE right.

Now?  I think that timeline is barren... nothing is left.  It's... cold, somber.  No question.

The past of that timeline has become the past, because of Twilight Sparkle and Starlight traveling to the future of the past, leaving that timeline behind, in which it no longer has a future.  In its place, that timeline now has a horrible new future.


The KING 👑👑 is here again  the BEST  little pony theorist


Your theory could be the last time line we saw


DEPRESSING DEPRESSING MORE LIKE HEART BREAKING 😭😢😭😢😭😢


Day 2 of asking Sawtooth to read the Journal of the Two Sisters.


Last time I ditched my school work to watch your vid. This time I ditched my family 🤣


Actually this h<br>Theory has a hole in the crystal heart break part yes flurry still would have been born buuuuut the only reason flurry did that crazy yell thing was because cadance seperated her from pinkie and if not twilight they wouldnt have gone and no not the hole theory just that part😊

Actually this h
Theory has a hole in the crystal heart break part yes flurry still would have been born buuuuut the only reason flurry did that crazy yell thing was because cadance seperated her from pinkie and if not twilight they wouldnt have gone and no not the hole theory just that part😊


But we don't know that they weren't there during the original timeline

this is true, the cloud they were on may have just been out of view. it depends on how time travel works. we only have one other instance to draw upon, but starlight had altered that spell, so it's unclear.


You forgot about the dragons, garble wouldve won and became the dragon lord, then he would order the dragons to attack equestria

@scifi DINO we dont know how powerful celestial truly is, but I highly doubt she would be able to take on a whole army of dragons, sure she might take some down, but she would be overwhelmed

And then all dragons would've gotten obliterated by Celestia (No, you wouldn't be able to eat the meat, it would be way too overroasted)


I don’t think the rain boom timeline I think that emerged in that sounds really weird I don’t know why it’s a horrifying thing to look at and feels weird just thinking about it


Me: About to post a video
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Me: *About to post a video*
Sawtooth: *Uploads*
Me: *Sees the notification* SQREEEEEE *clicks faster than you can say Sawtooth Waves*


It reminds me of my vr game and dream and my game had missions happened like my most popular map missions like the final battle of my little pony equestrian girls movie friendship games rainbow rocks and the storming battle anyway and some unpopular 1 like skynet core the changelings dimension and Egypt mission city the ocean and finally the core hub of the ppdc


BESTPONY FINALLY POSTED Y'ALL THEY POSTEDD 😃


HEEEYYY i would like to say something about a different video: how you said that cadence was the alicorns in the book in the episode about tbe love spells daughter, but there are mlp books and in "twilight sparkle and the chrystal heart spell" cadance says that 'she was a pegasus and was takin in by celestia and luna when she was young' and yes this is not that video and i dont know if youve made a video about that after and this may not be helpfull but still i had to say it


l Guess Equestria From The Original Timeline Would Be Like The Game "Fallout", But With Changelings.

@DRAGOVID DAVIDAS And Power.. And What Does Discord? Love & Power

@Kiko Squirrel Actually Chrysalis steals LOVE.

Possibly Or Maybe Not... Keep In Mind That Chrysalis Can Suck All The Magic From Powerful Beings, So Defeating Discord Would Be Easy.

Or Discord would beat Chrysalis when she's out of the castle.


What about the twilight, spike and starlight from that timeline in which the original twilight,spike and starlight went ??????


See kids, this is why we don't f¨çk around wit time travel.<br>Only Hermione can lol

See kids, this is why we don't f¨çk around wit time travel.
Only Hermione can lol


The origanal is the three villas ruling together lol


How in the world do you think of this stuff 😹🤣


And that is why is time travel very dangerous, you don't know what can possible happend


Well its time so if they went to the past ranbow might have seen them teleport but for got


Ok,my comment is not related to this video but I have one doubt, starlight traveled through time and stopped the rainboom and why didn't rainbow dash tell that in her cutie mark story? And this is my doubt sorry if it's to complicated but I hope someone would solve it or sawtooth would solve my doubt.Thank you.


This doesn't make sense. The timeline doesn't seem abandoned. The "new" one is just the same, suggesting time in Equestria doesn't go off of small events, but only big ones.


Sawtooth notifications showed up! I need to watch this first before doing other things


Wow that I don’t know how to say this but I think that might be right. But going back in time is very confusing


:0 wow but also think: this could also have happened to us- there is no way to confirm anything becuase not everthing follows rules, so there is nothing that can confirm anything. Meaning nothing is true but nothing is wrong either. You can just pick what is truth in ur eyes and it will be truth in your reality. sorry the video made me think more. but also if the theory is true there no way to go back..becuase then you change the timeline again becuase you shouldnt be there. but also congrats on 394k! dang..i haventtyped something this long is forever-


Maybe they were there in the original timeline butt it didn't show because it will be a spoiler


why dont you ever make a face reval video


well im trying to eat not overthink abt timelines rnUGO AWK


I hope this is wrong I mean it's a good theory but this is just depressing


That is not how time travel works so delete this and contact me so I can explain it to you

@Raptor Zeraora Statistically your original time line and altered one are the same on, if you leave your world and go to the altered world your really just coming back to your own world and after you change it everything around it change there's no time line for altercation of the altered world. The other timelines that were altered around you they would actually be erased never to be existed. So the theory of the mlp forgotten world should never have been created because it would never exist since it would've been erased the moment you set everything straight

Time travel works differently for each franchise


are you kiding me, you were late for a week and you gives as this...WHERE IS YOUR EVIL CLONE THAT WANTS REVEGE FOR YOU FORGETTING HIM


So I remember when I was 6 I made a fan art of you so pls heart this comment


Me comming back 2 this channle after like 2years wondering what in the world happends 2 ur voice!


Can you make video about Luna black thingy of her....kudimark?...


Wow wow isn't there ather twilight so that had to mean there twilight in this world


ok why is there no spike twilight andand starlight in the new universe if not same universe


Your voice sounds a little weird i hope you youre not sick


HEHE I DON'T THINK THATS REALL HAHAH ok I'm so scared


i have so many thoughts rn, that i cant type it in comments oml


So that’s why the later seasons are so bad /j


Sawwtooth friar I subscribe and I needed you were going to  change it in the dracunaquus video


Actually I think there was one variance something must have happened to the alternate reality twilight


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What happened to the other twilight in this timeline?


no your wrong ...im just saying that beacase i dont want to think about it


I guess your right there might me a  different timeline not. Because it connects my last comment ( ok I’d does )  but think about my last comment and this and the last video connects I think ?


Ya it does time travel it complicated and all but I don’t believe about the abandoned timeline cuz maby starlight and Twilight was there this hole time like maby Rainbow dash never noticed her older future friends and ya I can say that like the episode of a nother channel of Minecraft call stampy cat he made a episodes involving time call cat to the future and the other episodes I can’t remember the name cuz as well it involves timetravel when stampy same himself and he was meant to be there and and as for the cat to the future when the episode start you see for a sec you see the future stampy cat and he didn’t notice him soo maby rainbow dash never noticed twilight and starlight in the cloud and everybody maby didn’t notice and ya maby that normal maby they where meant to be there and the future they have still the same no time split nothing at all and ya I do not think that time split ever happen I don’t think the abandon timeline don’t exist


Nooooo no no no it can't be no no noooooooo


I think this could be possibly because since kid rainbow and fluttershy and the other three saw starlight wouldn’t that make a timeline that soon enough would twilight spike and starlight gone to

Because won’t some one have to see you for the future to be changed because it’s like a show if no one saw the show it never happened


This only shows the absurdity of multiple universes based on personal choices.


There's a 9th timeline I know Even if u were wrong you know that littke pink pony who saw them this e s could have started a new timeline think of this Pegasus would want to learn magic that twilight and starlight used causing a diffrent timeline the final one this is where things sperate, this Pegasus would want to

Shout me put of u make a theory about this I wouldn't wanna be thouer less its a combo of thoughtless and theory less pun inteaded

learn this would make them want to go to avid school this would make celastia have to choose this pony as well to be an alicorn as well causing the difference.. I wouldn't be surprised if celestia and line go there cutie marks when they got there wings this would happen to the pegusaus but they would gain a horn surprisingly enough that it would look like my pony I made as myself pony form


Oh that’s so sad sad sad day chilling inside and make this a beer oh well I have a I have a cow need to make you feel better but the sour candies can I help you feel better just let it keep looking at it and they need toilet brush really really good taste tax in the back please come


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