I think the "abandoned" timeline would cease to exist since, like the other timelines, the cause for them never happened. So this is more of a what-if scenario. But for the sake of the hypothetical, I'll see how it can be broken down.

1. Flurry Heart and the Crystal Empire. Sure, Starlight wouldn't be there to support Sunburst, and wouldn't stop the Crystal Empire from freezing over. However, the cause of what made Flurry Heart cry and break the Crystal Heart in the first place most likely wouldn't be there either.

2. Thorax. Thorax most likely wouldn't go to the Crystal Empire anyway. But he wouldn't have befriended Spike, since he wouldn't be there. Also, I don't see why he couldn't befriend the Crystal Ponies, since they wouldn't have been around for the Changeling invasion in the first place. So they could still accept Thorax for who (and what) he is. Granted, if Cadance or Shining Armor found out, it wouldn't be as friendly. But they may be more focused on the fact that Twilight and Spike went missing. And considering how revered Spike is in the Crystal Empire, that could result in an entire empire as a search party. And if Thorax offered to help, though Shining and Cadance may be apprehensive, they may consider Twilight to be their primary focus and allow him to help. But he would be guarded though, for obvious reasons.

3. Chrysalis and the Changelings. This becomes a bit harder to predict due to how far it's diverging at this point. You could make the argument that in the chaos of Twilight and Spike going missing, it could make it easier for Chrysalis to take over. However, I could argue that Equestria would be more on high alert, making it harder. And being more on high alert, Thorax may have more incentive to warn the others of how Chrysalis could take advantage of the scenario. But I think that's exactly what she'd do, but in a way that not even Thorax would've predicted. Rather than being forward about it, Chrysalis will play the long game. She will take advantage of the fact that Twilight is missing and take her place. However, she'd put herself in a pod to be found so that she can use the excuse that she was taken by the changelings. This way, she can take over from the inside. I suppose that's what she did originally. But this makes things more convenient. Spike being missing would be questioned. But she could make the argument that they were separated and doesn't know where he is. Thorax may be suspicious about how easy it was to find her. But that might be ignored since they'd be focused on her being back.

They'd start to notice eventually that Twilight is acting differently. Pinkie however is oblivious to this... or is she? I think that Pinkie being Pinkie would know that it's not really Twilight and that she was Chrysalis trying to take over. Or at least, it will be "just a hunch". So why is she still being friendly? This is when Chrysalis starts to realize that she hasn't been hungry for a while. Eventually, Thorax would learn the truth, perhaps through a letter Pinkie sent to him asking if he knew that Twilight was actually Chrysalis, and asking why she hasn't been stealing their love. Then it clicks for Thorax why things were suspicious. But the mention of stealing love made him realize that he hasn't been hungry lately. Thorax then addresses his queen about it, pointed out that Pinkie knew she's Chrysalis, and asking her when the last time she was hungry. Chrysalis has that same realization. She hasn't been hungry, despite not stealing love. And after she learned that Pinkie knew, she probably would've started bonding with Pinkie, perhaps without even realizing it. But because she wasn't good, she was still planning a takeover. When the takeover happens, and Pinkie is a target, Chrysalis stops it to protect Pinkie. So perhaps at this point, Chrysalis admitting to herself that she cares for Pinkie and protected her would reform, which would also encourage the rest of the hive to reform. After all, Starlight isn't there to earn her ire, and Twilight, who already has her ire, is gone. She doesn't really have anyone to feel vengeful towards. This may even award her the Element of Magic.

4. The Pillars of Equestria and Pony of Shadows. Doesn't happen.

5. The Movie. Since you never addressed how the movie would be different. And I think this could really be fun. The "Festival of Friendship" would be very different. I could allow it to keep its name. But instead of a general celebration of friendship, it would be a celebration of the 1 Year Anniversary of the joining of ponies and changelings. It also acts as a memorial for Twilight and Spike, since at this point, though their closest friends haven't quite given up on them, even they understand that it's unlikely that they'll find her. Since Twilight's not there, the Storm King and Tempest Shadow have their sights on Flurry Heart as the 4th Princess. So the Mane 6 (Chrysalis at this point being fully accepted into the group of friends) take Flurry Heart and escape to find help. For this, let's say that Chrissy remembered stories about the hippogriffs (which means no confusion and no Hungry Hungry Hippos reference). The reason I don't have Chrysalis taken on Tempest is simply because of how those stone balls work. That and she's been unsure of herself ever since her reformation. Since Flurry Heart is going with them, I'd figure that Thorax would also come along, as well as Shining Armor (since it's his daughter and his wife that's involved). The could make for some amusing tension. And for the sake of it, Pharynx would come along too, since it's his queen and brother getting involved. This adventure will have an added subplot of Chrysalis' self-discovery, and truly learn how much she's changed... and perhaps how much she hasn't.

As the movie progresses, it will still hit the same key locations and characters. But the frustration will cause Chrysalis to begin to regress. Her more militant changeling queen personality coming out more. She doesn't regress back to evil. But the difference in personality is jarring to her friends. When it gets to Mt Erris and Seaquestria, rather than Chrsaylis trying to steal that giant pearl, they just leave. After all, Chrysalis wouldn't be as tempted to steal it considering that she already has the power to change shapes. This also means that Pinkie won't be sent to distract them. When they leave, that fight scene happens, just with Chrysalis replacing Twilight. They go their separate ways for alone time, Chrysalis being distraught that she yelled at the pony who was her first friend. Shining Armor will go with Chrysalis but will be harsher, pointing out that what she said was uncalled for. This is when you start to see Chrysalis crying, which throws him off his game. Shining would have also brought Flurry with him. The attack happens, Chrysalis in an attempt to protect Flurry gets herself and Flurry caught. Later, the "Friendship didn't fail me. I failed friendship." line happens. The rest of the movie will generally be the same. But since an attempt to steal the pearl never happened, Queen Novo and the rest of the hippogriffs agree to join and help. In the end, Chrysalis' self-discovery comes full circle when she offers friendship to Tempest.

6. Cozy Glow. Since Twilight's not there, the School of Friendship never happens (and no playset for Hasbro to sell). It's not exactly clear when Cozy Glow became pen pals with Tirek. But let's assume it happens. Without the School of Friendship, and by extension, the Princess of Friendship, she may be less encouraged to use friendship as a weapon. However, seeing the reformed Chrysalis may show her how powerful friendship can be. But I think that Cozy Glow would ultimately fail. Without the School of Friendship to learn friendship from and seeing how the changelings (who would most likely have merged with Equestria at this point) would most likely be able to determine that her friendship isn't genuine. And without Twilight and the School of Friendship, the artifacts would be harder to gather. Even though Twilight's not there to open up the School of Friendship, Celestia, with Chrsyalis' assistance, may open up better relations with other creatures, perhaps even making Ponyville itself the primary focal point. So the Young 6 will still be a thing.

7. The "Legion of Doom". Doesn't happen. Cozy Glow wasn't as much of a threat and Chrissy is on the others side. Without all 3, they'd be unsuccessful at getting Grogar's bell. And with no resurrection of Sombra, there's no destruction of the Tree of Harmony and no creation of the Treehouse of Harmony.

8. The Princesses Retirement. Celestia will retire. However, Luna will say as the primary ruler of Equestria. Chrysalis will take the role of secondary ruler alongside Luna. I'll choose not to address the Season 10 comics, since I simply don't know how to adapt them into this scenario, and they're also still ongoing. This also means that there may not be a Luster Dawn, although that could make for an interesting idea, having Chrysalis taking on the role of mentor to a pony.

Basically, I see the abandoned timeline in a very different way than you did. It has a good ending, just a very different story.


I feel like this would make for an interesting MLP horror story


If Twilight, Starlight and Spike had arrived in a different timeline, there should be other versions of them. Unless they all travelled back in time and ended up on the other one, but in that case nothing would have changed. So these two timelines either merged together or were always one and the same. Or they are identical. <br>But what if you were wrong from the beginning? When you started the theories about those timelines, you assumed that there was other versions of Twilight somewhere in them, but if that were to be true, then it would be different dimensions, not timelines. In this case, there is only one version of each of the characters and only Twilight and Spike remain unchanged because they are brought back to the present by the cutie map, which used to cast the spell. In the end, the original timeline wasn't left behind, but it just stopped existing the moment Starlight, Spike and Twilight arrived in the past, just like all the others.

If Twilight, Starlight and Spike had arrived in a different timeline, there should be other versions of them. Unless they all travelled back in time and ended up on the other one, but in that case nothing would have changed. So these two timelines either merged together or were always one and the same. Or they are identical.
But what if you were wrong from the beginning? When you started the theories about those timelines, you assumed that there was other versions of Twilight somewhere in them, but if that were to be true, then it would be different dimensions, not timelines. In this case, there is only one version of each of the characters and only Twilight and Spike remain unchanged because they are brought back to the present by the cutie map, which used to cast the spell. In the end, the original timeline wasn't left behind, but it just stopped existing the moment Starlight, Spike and Twilight arrived in the past, just like all the others.


Okay I agree with most of this but I don’t think Cozy Glow would have come into power, even if Crysalis or the Storm King didn’t take over. She learned how to take over Equestria by being at the school. If she did an upraising  outside the current timeline it would be futile, but I don’t think she would knowing that she would fail for sure.


I'd like to see the Wasteland timeline touched upon. I mean we all automatically think of Fallout Equestria, but if you read the book you know that wasn't what caused that timeline to exist. But maybe we could have a fanfiction taking place in this Wasteland timeline. Probably no life exists though. Who knows?

@IndoDINO Youtube Tension between Ponies and Zebras. The Zebras in FOE represent China from Fallout. Nukes go off for the same reasons as in Fallout. Only its magical nukes instead of real ones. It branches off from the official timeline right after Season 2 of FIM. So Discord and everything after that isn't included.


Another things to consider: maybe in the abundant timeline Discord would not just sit around and still do some chaos, which might or might not stop Chrysalis depending on how she will operate. And I also think that in eather way Cozy Glow might not even started without seeing that much potential in magic of friendship... unless someone replaces Twilight. Discord for example. That would be ironic.


If it was a chrysalis timeline, but with Cozy Glow penpaling Tyrik, if the events line up correctly, her draining of magic could be used as a method to attack the changelings. Making her some kind of hero, boosting her into a high, respected position among the free ponies wouldn't it?


Ey, sick, I had the same kind of idea about this topic when I thought about how the other timelines might look after season 9.<br>I also realized that Rainbow’s first rainboom wasn’t the only point in the past that they appeared in. When they visited Starlight’s childhood… ahem, ‘trauma’, they could’ve created another timeline split there too, which could’ve ended up creating a duplicate timeline that resulted in that alternate Starlight, Twilight and Spike going through their own Cutie Re-mark ordeal just to bump into/spot the original timelines group. Or just, you know, create a never ending series of copycat timelines that are just the entire show repeating over and over again.

Ey, sick, I had the same kind of idea about this topic when I thought about how the other timelines might look after season 9.
I also realized that Rainbow’s first rainboom wasn’t the only point in the past that they appeared in. When they visited Starlight’s childhood… ahem, ‘trauma’, they could’ve created another timeline split there too, which could’ve ended up creating a duplicate timeline that resulted in that alternate Starlight, Twilight and Spike going through their own Cutie Re-mark ordeal just to bump into/spot the original timelines group. Or just, you know, create a never ending series of copycat timelines that are just the entire show repeating over and over again.


Well, splitting and merging of timelines is supposedly a real thing, according to quantum physics.


Have you seen Loki? It also tackles this and no, the timeline wouldn’t branch off, they’d reunite. It doesn’t matter what they do there as long as the rainboom was there, everything would remain the same


Wouldn't THAT have been a ballsy ending if they explicitly confirmed that? We have that big song with Starlight being redeemed, then cut back to the original timeline where the rest of the friends are wondering where Twilight and Spike went. Then it just cuts to black and plays credits over complete silence.


I think I know what happened there.
What if I told you that those two timelines intertwined more than once? And that this is not the only time we saw it happen.
What if I told you that this is related to a certain draconequs, centaur and unicorn? And that we knew it from the very beginning of the show.


This poses a good question, if one of the carriers of the elements of harmony dies or is unable to 7se the elements, dose it transfer to another?


I take it that after Hours upon Hours of watching the first season of Loki, you came up with this didn't you, Sawtooth?


One theory about traveling to the past is that if you don't go out of your way to change things in the past to effect the present, then your actions might actually make things the way you experienced in the present. So, Spike, Starlight, and Twilight being in the past wouldn't have mattered to the way things are in the present, meaning there isn't a ninth timeline.


Well i'm quite partial to the idea that going back in time to change the past is impossible because what you're about to do has already happened. so Starlight Twilight and Spike were always there when Rainbow Dash did the rainboom, it's just that no one saw them or really took notice of them. they would always go back and make all those alternate timelines. and they'd end up back in the same timeline because technically they never left.

this is actually explored a little in Issue #24 of the IDW comics where Discord himself states this to be true.


Because of crysalis' timeline, i feel like zacora would be able to figure out what's going on.<br>And celestia might have access to the time spell

Because of crysalis' timeline, i feel like zacora would be able to figure out what's going on.
And celestia might have access to the time spell


I don’t think that Cozy Glow would still try to get rid of all the magic in equestria because she wouldn’t have learned about friendship. She would have still been wherever she was. She probably wouldn’t have became pen pals with tirek because she didn’t believe in friendship. She would stay wherever she was and wouldn’t learn about friendship.<br>This is just what I think, if you have any other opinions please tell me!

I don’t think that Cozy Glow would still try to get rid of all the magic in equestria because she wouldn’t have learned about friendship. She would have still been wherever she was. She probably wouldn’t have became pen pals with tirek because she didn’t believe in friendship. She would stay wherever she was and wouldn’t learn about friendship.
This is just what I think, if you have any other opinions please tell me!


I don’t even watch mlp anymore but i still love these videos.


Ahh, but we can go deeper! If every instance of time travel creates another parallel timeline, we haven't been in the original timeline since season 2's It's About Time, which could spin on its own even further, as that creates a timeline where Cerberus might never leave his post, which means Tirek would never escape, which would mean Twilight would have to find another way to get her key to unlock the Tree of Harmony's chest. It could also mean a world where the Twilight-obsessed Starlight never learns of Twilight's time travel misadventures and so never gets the idea to use time travel herself.


Wrong because there would be another Twilight, starlight and Spike in the timeline Twilight returned to.

"But In THAT timeline, things went exactly as they did in the abandoned timeline."

That would mean the original twilight of THAT new timeline also abandoned it, basically replacing the old twilight with the same Twilight... So where did that old twilight go? Is this a paradox, or did Twilight really did just return to the one she just abandoned?


This makes sense, but do you really think the writers of MLP would put sooo much thought into 2 episodes?


Hey Sawtooth.  What if the abandoned Timeline is the one that leads into G5? In G5 the magic is gone. and you mentioned that cozy would of still found away to drain Equestria of magic. What if she did and it lead to the three pony tribes splitting off. Thus ending the harmony. just a random thought that crossed my mind.


This Got me Thinking, and it Hit Different. But I Think that they Went back to their Own Timeline because they weren't gone long enough for anything to take Effect. They may have been Present there, but they Didn't change how Life Went on. Causing them to return Safely back to their Timeline.


Sunset might come back and take Twilights place. Think about it. It was during the whole time traveling escapade that Sunset was participating in the friendship games. Twilight was already not answering he pleas for help because she was already gone. Eventually Sunset would have gone to see if Twilight was alright. Apon finding out Twilight disappeared she would help consol the mane 6 and princess Celestia. After awhile seeing that Equestria was endanger Sunset would step it and maby take up the place of the element of magic.


im pretty sure you are right. I agree. if you ever watched PoA in Hp you would say they are the same kind of time travel with different ways


Just think 'bout Twilight perfect loop when she thought the world is ending. She travelled to past her and came back to present timeline. She haven't created new one, she just talked to her past self and boom, back to her times. This moment became part of that timeline but did not create new one.


Ah.
Another one to fix.
I'll put it on the list.

-Find the Empty World (I named it myself)
-Thaw the crystal empire
-Bonk Chrysalis over the head

Got it.


What if the original timeline was actually the "almost identical to the original timeline", and everything they did CREATED the timeline they were from? Therefore only eight exist?


The og one could easily go in to gen 5 if cozy did take all the magic and if you think about it it would be super easy for for crystals to replace twilight I think the second she knows shes missing she's going to take action


It is possible for the time line to merge itself... I sorta veiw in the same situation as the doctors meeting each other after everything has been solved they don't remember seeing each other or what even happened. I can imagine the same being for Spike starlight and twilight as I'm sure most of the ponies would be focused on the race or doing other things meening no one would see them. However if the time line did change I think it would become something like fallout equestria with twilight gone I can imagine some dispute could go horribly wrong causing some sort of chaotic war (basically just what fallout equestria is). Idk it's just my thoughts and theories and limited knowledge of time wimey time travel stuff.


Perhaps in the forgotten time line they either found a replacement for Twilight or the time line created a new alternative twilight that didn't go in the porthole Peabody and Sherman still who knows?


If twilight didn't follow starlight into the past. They would've just lived further without her. She would've been trapped in alternate timelines without twilight to save her.


wait wait wait.. while i enjoyed and agreed with this.. wouldn’t that mean there would be 2 twilight, spike, and starlight’s in “our” timeline? or would’ve this been a endless loop of creating timelines to which just end up getting the different 3 from another timeline with no one realizing…


One Cannot travel in time without changing something


Maybe you can try to do a alternate timeline where a canterlot wedding ended into a civil war with twilight leading this army with the intention of killing the princesses and her old friends<br>P.S can the nameless one help you with this idea and maybe dr.wolf too?

Maybe you can try to do a alternate timeline where a canterlot wedding ended into a civil war with twilight leading this army with the intention of killing the princesses and her old friends
P.S can the nameless one help you with this idea and maybe dr.wolf too?


I think this theory is a bit extreme. Twilight, Spike and Starlight might not end up in a new timeline at all. Them going back in time could have been part of the same timeline. There is order in the chaos of the universe, so i think even if there was a minor change, it would fix itself. The only reason the other timelines exist is cause Starlight threw a big wrench into the fabric of time. Think of the flow of time like a river. If you throw a big rock in, you'll get a huge ripple and a big splash. Throw in a pebble, only a small ripple. Not enough to branch the timeline, though it could cause a couple minor hiccups in it


What if the 2 different human time lines came into play somehow and the human world which we saw from the first timeline have some to do with it , as we know that when twilight went back in time sunset was already reformed in both the human timeline of both worlds,we have seen the continuation from the 2nd timeline but not the first,and after sunset's reformation finding twilight and going for the camp was pretty independent of the pony world,so what if they stepped in while crysalis took over,we do know that the legend of everfree takes simultaneously and hence right after that,the 1st human world which we visited with the 1st timeline may step in and have a completely different future? They did her the necklace thingy which act like the elements and they do embody the elements even without the elements actually being present seen in the season finale and the rainbow rocks


The difference I can think of in the two timelines are that rainbow remembers twilight from when she did the rainboom.... Its just that rainbow has'nt really mentioned the rainboom much so I guess we'll never know


I think that the rest of the mane 6 would freak out more because the element of magic is gone and they still think the elements give them there power and friendship


Here’s a more Lovecraftian and Multiversual theory. What if Discord is responsible for creating the new timeline after his second release? What if all the fillers (subjectively) throughout the series, including Equestria Girls, new characters especially main characters, like Starlight, and other things Lauren Faust became upset, like Twilicorn, because Discord ‘writes’ the show like a kid playing with his toys, while the other timeline was Lauren’s timeline that was never shown to the public, because Discord symbolizes the Hasbro higher ups that denied Lauren’s creativity? What if Discord was ‘reformed’, because the canon of the show is his world now?


Perhaps Fluttershy would have been Celestia's next successor, she was given motivational talks from the Princess and with Discord they would have been a strong duo. Moon Dancer would have taken the knowledgable role at Celestia's prompting, maybe even bringing Sunset Shimmer back.


I'm currently still trying to get the two possibilities straight since I get confused easily and forget factors quite as much...


Timelines are in a loop though, so what we’re watching has technically happened before?? For all we know, present Twilight, Spike and Starlight could’ve been in past Cloudsdale in the original timeline without anyone noticing (in the redemption scene they don’t talk with filly RD or anyone else). Them being in cloudsdale technically actually happened before everything else, them being in cloudsdale is part of the original timeline. So the timeline they came back to is still the original?? does that make sense, idk how to explain my thoughts-


But what about Discord? He might stop Crystalis and Cozy Glow with his powers. It will be ironic if the chaos lord would become the new magic element of harmony.


Never took this this seriously until this video. Just watch for relaxation. LOL.


The Storm King would've annexed Equestria no problem if it didn't already belong to Chrysalis


wait.... would twilight not exist in the "good" timeline??<br>then how would the rest of the mane 6 know about twilight

wait.... would twilight not exist in the "good" timeline??
then how would the rest of the mane 6 know about twilight


So i came to a similar conclusion arguing with an anon over on /mlp/.

The argument was over whether or not the show beyond The Cutie Re-Mark took place in a separate reality from the one we started in. Ultimately we came to the conclusion that the table, the map never took Twilight and Starlight back to the rainboom we saw in the Cutie Mark Chronicles.

We came to the conclusion that it sent them to a number of different realities, but not once did they ever return to the original.

Starlight, Spike, and Twilight aren’t visible in the original CMC episode. We know WHY this is, obviously the writers never planned this far out. However because of that fact, we can only assume that the trio were never there to begin with.

So once they left, there was no chance of them ever TRULY returning.

Basically any way you look at it, this is hardly a theory. Our original timeline is not the one we ended the show with.


How do you know they were not suppose to be there... like your previous video about future twilight time loop, maybe this one's the same... they were always there for the sonic rainboom, but since it eventualy occur without intervention, no one saw them... the first occurrence factor is troubling, but it might as well be Starlight!


i'd like to think that the rest of the Mane 5 became the villain in that timeline.


Me: Hey what do you know, an OC that specializes in fixing time travel anomalies.  Pity she wants to remain anonymous in the original timeline.<br>Dark Watch: 'Good, nobody knows that I'm even part of it.  Let's keep it that way you numb scull.'

Me: Hey what do you know, an OC that specializes in fixing time travel anomalies.  Pity she wants to remain anonymous in the original timeline.
Dark Watch: 'Good, nobody knows that I'm even part of it.  Let's keep it that way you numb scull.'


This is the saddest theory that you have given and your voice is sooo sad that it makes me more sad <br>(Did anyone understand that whatever l said) And l appreciate that you still make videos  even if the franchise has ended.

This is the saddest theory that you have given and your voice is sooo sad that it makes me more sad
(Did anyone understand that whatever l said) And l appreciate that you still make videos  even if the franchise has ended.

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What if the original timeline is the 8th timeline Starlight, Twilight and Spike travel thru when they kept going thru timelines like the Chrysalis ruling timeline. Seeing what would have happened if the  Rainboom never happened. There was a timeline were there was just a grey desert. And Sawtooth did say the OG timeline would be unrecognizable. This could mean the OG timeline might be the 8th disastrous timeline of when the Rainboom never happened!


What do you think why did the magic disappeared for G5? Because Twilight wasn't there to stop Cozy?


So there are 2 versions of twilight starlight and spike in the past, the older and younger
So if this isn't their time line that means when they go back to the present there should be them aslwel as the younger ones that grew up, but there is only one group.
That means it's the same group and the same timeline


I could tell from the title this was gonna be a juicy one


Time traveling is dangerous and outlawed.


What if G5 <b>is</b> the abandoned timeline. Cozyglow having succeeded at draining the magic from the world.

What if G5 *is* the abandoned timeline. Cozyglow having succeeded at draining the magic from the world.

not possible, as G5 mentions Twilight and her friends, plus pegasi can still fly and unicorns still have magic (to an extent), plus the synopsis mentions that the races all split up again.


Hey Sawtooth what if the forgotten timeline was the generation5 of mlp?


It is most certainly a possibly. There could be another timeline where the Crystal Empire is covered in snow and Chrysalis eventually took over. iWorks like some stories on that…


thats what I thought too, that they wouldnt go back to their original timeline lol


I’m wondering about the twilight from the alternate timeline since she had to have gone somewhere for the original timeline twilight to take her place.


What happens when celestia realized twilight was missing and then went back in time to help twilight with the situation would the original timeline still be there

Celestia would've needed the time travel spell, and since Starlight took it with her when she left, Celestia wouldn't have been able to go after them.


Sawtooth, how do you know if starlight, twilight and spike weren’t there in the time line we know, who said that they weren’t even there in the first place; remember last video you explained how twilight time traveled to give past twilight a warning, that could’ve happened there. What If in the timeline we know of the rainboom event future twilight, starlight and spike were there trying to solve the same problem present twilight starlight and spike...


I think tia(celestia) would find a replacement for Twilight I think of one of the mane six rainbow dash or rarity maybe I don't know but after that I think everything would be fine


Dsepite the unnerving music it's kinda hard to feel unconfortable with pink petals falling, a sunny background and pastel coloured ponies and their young and harmless dragon haha


Now, Bronies, we shall all watch Loki and figure out how timelines work


maybe time travel works differently in mlp world


Maybe the original timeline have Starlight, Twilight, and Spike when the rainboom happened, maybe Twilight stop Starlight so the rainboom happened, and the same thing also happened.


This reminds me of a Steven universe episode
In this episode a bunch Stevens came from different timelines so our Steven went back in time to stop himself from picking up a special artifact that would cause all this to happen, then all the Stevens follow our Steven, they went back in time but then all the Stevens die, except for one Steven but it isn’t our Steven

No this isn’t a creepy pasta it’s an episode


Probably with all those villains probably all the villains are just standing in the middle of nowhere arguing about who should rule all that nothingness that they’ve caused


Everyone speaks about the timeline split at the rainboom, yet no one is seeing the obvious truth: without the rainboom Cheese Sandwich wouldn't have gotten his cutie mark either. Equestria depends on Weird Al Yankovic.

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This wouldnt be true, because they still have the elements of harmony, trixie would still be there and she and starlight still have the same memories. Celestia still would know all about twilight becoming an alicorn


Damn, the TVA would have set everything right! Where were they anyways?


I have a question, in friendship games, when Sci-Twi is "stealing" magic from the portal or Sunset Shimmer (idk), does it makes something bad to equestria ? And if it does, was it in the actual world or in the abodonned world ? (Srry for bad grammar-)

I hope someone will understand what I just said


Dude Princess Twilight, Spike and Starlight have always been in the past watching the rainboom happen.


I think you’re kind of like twilight spike in starlight would go back to their original timeline I’m just happy that we will see them again and they’re all the time


I THINK OTHER STARLIGHT TWILIGHT AND SPIKE WERE IN THAT TIMELINE GREAT WORK MAKING THE VIDEO


So there should've been a Twilight Sparkle in that world that they ended up in. A Twilight Sparkle who grew up to be a friendship student and princess, and then this impostor shows up out of nowhere and starts acting like hot shit. What did they do about the native Twilight, Starlight, and Spike?


*have you ever thought of a world where every thing was the same<br>*except you didn't exist?

*have you ever thought of a world where every thing was the same
*except you didn't exist?


Question/Video Idea:When human Twilight went to Equestria she wasn't an alicorn just a unicorn but when she transformed in the human world she has wing.HOWWW???😯😳⁉⁉⁉

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This Theory is like that one rick and morty episode where rick and morty leave there original universe and go to another universe.


Hey sawtooth , I have a question , where is the twilight spike and starlight of the timeline which they are right now ? There's a twilight spike and starlight in that timeline right ?


I think they went in a defrerent time line but went back to normal


Make a video about how advance pony/equestrian technology is


There wouldn’t be any starlight either because starlight was the one who made the time travel so yeah she went with


I don’t think there were 9 time line I think in the 1st time line Starlight,Twilight,and Spike were there when the Sonic rain boom happened,why do I think that because if they came to the 9 time line there would be 2 Twilights.And I love your videos!❤And I’m 8 years old.


There are actually not 9, but
(7+(A+infinity+B)×infinity)+A+infinity+C
With A being an amount of times Twilight went back in time before the flow of exactly the same timelines, B for an amount of loops Shimmer went back in time in every new timeline and C for the amount of times Shimmer went back in time in the abundant timeline (might or might not = B depending mostly on wheather that happened before or after Starlight spell)

Or if you are using the pocket timelines system<br>8+A-1 normal timelines and 2+B pocket timelines

Or if you are using the pocket timelines system
8+A-1 normal timelines and 2+B pocket timelines


What if the one with nothing but dirt and stone, was the original timeline..
Without the full of the Main 6, villains could take over, if they all did it together the two royal sisters could be defeated..
Even if it does become a chrysalis timeline, and also to think the storm king would probably never get the power of the staff since it was necessarily to have all 4 princesses magic, maybe he would of taken over equestria instead of chrysalis, as he did seem to be able capture everyone even without the power of the staff. All just because of one spell 😰
I never actually thought about this until now, it is kind of scary to wonder what equestria would become without twilight, starlight and spike..


It may be that Celestia and Luna have flowing hair because their older than twilight and cadence and flurry are not as old as celestia so I think when they grow up they will get flowing hair


Everyone’s probably dead in the original timeline maybe the desert timeline they went to was the original timeline


Or they could've just been there and we just didn't see them in The Cutie Mark Chronicles


Wait... how could Flurry break the crystal heart? The reason why she broke it was because she was separated from pinkie pie from the bubble twilight created but maybe I’m wrong


What if they were originally there though??


Waiting for someone to write a fanfiction about this, grimdark, darkfic, sadfick?


Humm i wonder what happens on the timeline, maybe Thorax is still good and he finds another way, another story


I like to think similar timelines will eventually merge together. The idea that the universe and the multiverse are infinite, is something I can't help but scoff at due to the fact we all know that everything on this planet is finite. It blows the mind to think anything could be infinite. But this may also explain the mandela effect. It's not that you remembered something wrong, but that thing was overwritten by a merging timeline.


The implication from the episode is there aren't alternate timelines, there's only one and changing the past is simply rewriting that one.  Which has it's own dark implications, since everyone Twilight meets in those alternate timelines is dead (or rather never existed) the moment she goes back and changes something again.  I base this assumption on Zecora's line about how her timeline isn't meant to be.  If we assume the many-worlds interpretation then there's no such thing as a timeline that wasn't meant to be.  Zecora even demonstrates with a stream of water that changing the path of the water results not in multiple streams but one redirected stream.  Now yes that could be taken to mean the path of the traveler rather than time as a whole, but combine it with the previous line about how they shouldn't be and its meaning is pretty clear.

The many-worlds interpretation is problematic in general when we consider time travel, since every single possible action has already happened.  If we assume MWI then both Starlight's and Twilight's actions are pointless.  Twilight could have stayed where she was and not followed Starlight back in time, because her timeline would not have changed. And there was no point in Starlight going back to stop the rainboom, because there are already innumerable timelines where the rainboom failed to happen all on its own.  MWI robs any time travel plot of so much of its tension that one simply must assume the Copenhagen Interpretation in any plot that hangs its tension on the changing of the past.

The only way to use MWI in a time travel plot and still maintain dramatic tension is the way the MCU recently did it, where they needed a resource that no longer existed in the present to save the day. They thus went back in time to get that resource when it did exist, with the understanding that nothing they did back then mattered to their time line.  Though the MCU managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with that final scene of Old Cap on the bench, since MWI wouldn't allow for that.  There are ways to force that scene to fit with MWI, but they're complicated and clunky.


Well,about this...means Princesses death...If Twilight never was there Storm king would make all princesses stone without Twilight save them and find the hippogriffs so maybe this was the end of Equestria in the original world,who knows but if you right for Chrysalis all this is a war,a war vs Queen Chrysalis,Storm king and King Sombra,those villains fight for who will be the leader...a war that will make Equestria this that Twilight was show to Starlight......BUT of course we see that starlight didn't nothing at the end,she was aggreed with Twilight back to their reall home,the original Equestria and + that inthe first episode that you was show Nameless one in your chanell he said that your Equestria is the original one so you can see what is happening right now in the "forgotten"world,right?But if this is true mane five would NEVER EVER understand that Starlight is good now,they thing she is a lost villain,maybe they will mix it with Twilight and Spike that missing,mane five will never see Twilight again,never see Stigian or the pillars,Flurry or Sunberst,even Thorax,or Tempest or Capper,they would never seen Cozy glow or young six everything will change in equestria the original Equestria is nothing more than a lost memory...Twilight is a lost memory...Starlight is missing villain. Mane five have the hope that twilight and Spike will come back again but everything are just broken nothing is the same,the love is lost princesses are lost even Starlight is lost,this is the end.of Equestria Twilight is the one that holding equestria alive without Twilight nothing is the same...


Think on back to the future part 1 and 2 and you get your answer there. And meet the Robinsons.


Red dragon logs: …

I was spying on Sawtooth because of his resent time travel mischief and was planning to prevent him from doing it again… Forever
But… if what he said is true…
I need to do something.

@Christopher Jones Travel to different dimensions is safer then time travel. You can’t change the future unless you try to. Plus you get to meet legendary heroes, I have almost lost count of the things I took part in…

or the friends I lost…

@Silly gamer Multiverse? Different Dimensonal travel? You crazed bro?

@Christopher Jones Agreed, I have avoided time traveling at all cost, I leave that to one of my  others. I prefer multiverse travel.

aw crap, its Zamatsu all over again...you know, Goku black and all that if you're familiar with somewhat recent Dragon Ball Z events. But actually I think its just a case of things returning to their own timeline. After all, the original order of events happened, no one noticed Spike, Starlight, or Twilight, and nothing was permantly changed, lost, or otherwise tampered with. That was the whole point of Twilight making sure the Rainboom happened after all. If she had failed....well, you saw the wasteland.

THAT SAID: messing with time, if possible AT ALL, is a BIG no-no....messing with stuff only God has real access to...the Grandfather paradox? That's nothing...because it only deals with the past leading up to the present...imagine ramifications on the future because...well, people who were supposed to be present and events that were supposed to happen, weren't and couldn't. Do you have ANY idea how huge that is? granted, things meant to happen will happen one way or another, but still...it could make things go all screwy just the same.


so there is no such thing as different timelines if no one changed the past. And no one did when twilight became friends with starlight ans they came back to the same timeline cause no one caused anything different nopony was probably looking them and were amazed of that portal witch chanced the past so nothing changed


The time spell ate itself in the so logically it erased the events starlight’s created tampering

Plus since the spell was used in conjunction with the cutie map so it is possible that the tree of Harmony created an artificial reality like izanami


Dude ur hurting my brain with time travel and dimensional travel, LOL I can process it but it takes quite a bit too XD


Because maybe it got detroyed without twilight


Great just great sawtooth is turning mlp into a another TIMELINE  Don’t you have a problem with the mane six . First Twilight being a dictator , pinkie pie is a chaos creature,  rainbow dash does not deserve her element, Apple jack is stupid                    😔.                      Why


my guess is that the origonap time line is now a apocolypse


And the new mlp generation there's no magic maybe this is the other world


Is G5 based on the original timeline then?


if it was another timeline than there would be there will be two twilights spikes and starlights the different timeline


What if the original timeline is what becomes G5???

nope. G5 mentions the Mane 6 and Princess Twilight.


4:04 she know them in the school
i don't think she can do something


Yes but that would mean there is 2 Twilight, spike, and Starlight, and there is not


Idk why but I always think that someone is missing and idk why


i also think even if cosyglow pen palled tirek she would not make it


for kids show mlp can be a little creppy once you look deeper into it


Nice theory but I don't think it's cannon lol I don't want it to be cannon it's to sad


That thumbnail scared me. I hate to see an evil/broken smiley face in black n white.... brrrr


I think the black timeline is the original one


i think if there is an abanded timeline than no one would even now cosyglow and the ponys would yust go to the human world till they  find starbucks but when they come back they see that zombra has taken over


Well nothing happened ik even the teensiest thing could change it maybe by mistake but there was no mistake


i think the world that has been forgotten everyone is gone or just living without twillight starlight ans spike wait how about sunset she also has gone thrue diffrent universes she can maybe replac twilligt


Hmmmmmm somethings off ,……..what about the starlight and twilight in the 9th universe 😐          just a question


Is celestia the queen or prinses  and if she’s the princess who’s the queen?


sawtooh why are you so smart? btw i love your vidoe


wow who the heck know there is a millions of therios and infinite universe


SAWTOOTH WHY DO YOU SPEAK IN SUCH A SINISTER VOICE


Oh and probably all the ponies and everyone is probably dead except for the villains


I think they went back memory wiped by next day feel better but needs rest for its horn


I am scared👍🏻👻👻 I told you my little ponies curse👻💀


Now I egt why hermione said that her and Harry can't be seen-because thIs


No they were there but gone before anypony noticed them


That mean time line they go there will another alicorn princesse of friendship


Hmm Maybe the original timeline is the new mlp generation… wait people have already posted comments like this… Uhhhh kindred spirits?


You now know what sawtooth your story was nice but insane kind of real but a fake any way I like your story but still it's fake


Hmmmmmmm.     That's very interesting but I'm not sure which way to lean.    Separate timeline or merged timeline.    Oo.


When there can to the past of rain boom every thing was same by Been there so your who know there was past  twilight starlight and spike but rainbow dash not them


It's not possible cuz after rainboom portal opened it self it's a part


Well actually nothing did happen because this is all a cartoon


There is a thing in star trek that may mean it never branched off. Meaning, the sonic rainboom ALWAYS had those three extra viewers because the time travel event always happened. Its a perfect circle. Or, as its properly called. A Pre-destined paradox. Also look at it like futurama, Fry being his own grandpa. Always was meant to happen and therefor always happened that way.


I think its would be like hell like monsters evil and creepy things pony dead and ya


What is the twilights in both universe in both just swapped


My therories is that time already have have a futur what i mean is that for example now when im typing right here time already know what im gonna do next and so as in the mlp world so if you do a time travel that means you destroy the future time has made for you imagen that time is river if the river already flows and you go back to when the river just start like a bit and make  new path there you just make time creat you another future but so it means you created a new world which is most called as pararel world just if stalight and the others go back to the place where before they watch the rainbom and take them away or twilight or starlight can cast a spell to make them invisible they can go bsck to the real world but so they just creat a new world this maybe dangerous cause rainbow dash or whoever watch the rainbom that see starlight and twilight might has a memory of them what if who watched starlight and twilight was a child and when theyre big they became a vilain then they saw twilight and starlight again at the same age they would think that starlight and twilight do time travel and they ended up alternating starswirl spell to go back in time and creat another timeline/pararel world that is so dangerous. This is my theori<br>~Adi Satia

My therories is that time already have have a futur what i mean is that for example now when im typing right here time already know what im gonna do next and so as in the mlp world so if you do a time travel that means you destroy the future time has made for you imagen that time is river if the river already flows and you go back to when the river just start like a bit and make  new path there you just make time creat you another future but so it means you created a new world which is most called as pararel world just if stalight and the others go back to the place where before they watch the rainbom and take them away or twilight or starlight can cast a spell to make them invisible they can go bsck to the real world but so they just creat a new world this maybe dangerous cause rainbow dash or whoever watch the rainbom that see starlight and twilight might has a memory of them what if who watched starlight and twilight was a child and when theyre big they became a vilain then they saw twilight and starlight again at the same age they would think that starlight and twilight do time travel and they ended up alternating starswirl spell to go back in time and creat another timeline/pararel world that is so dangerous. This is my theori
~Adi Satia


I believe that they were already there, even in the first rain boom. A good example of this is in Harry Potter book 3 where Harry and Hermione went back in time with the time turner and Harry used the patronous charm to save past Harry, which Harry saw thinking it was his Father. However, I believe Spike, starlight, and twilight were there but were unnoticed, somehow. Therefore the world is the same as it was suppose to happen. This is similar when Twilight when to inform her past self about a danger not to worry about, but in this instance it was indirect instead of being direct, <br>BUT that is just a theory

I believe that they were already there, even in the first rain boom. A good example of this is in Harry Potter book 3 where Harry and Hermione went back in time with the time turner and Harry used the patronous charm to save past Harry, which Harry saw thinking it was his Father. However, I believe Spike, starlight, and twilight were there but were unnoticed, somehow. Therefore the world is the same as it was suppose to happen. This is similar when Twilight when to inform her past self about a danger not to worry about, but in this instance it was indirect instead of being direct,
BUT that is just a theory


Thats been a burning question in the back of my head since the season 5 finale, thanks for answering it Sawtooth!


This is another reason why I have watched mlp for too long. Which is another reason why I love it so much.


i know this is random buuuuut-
now that this theory came into play i may be able to fit my fanfic inside the canon. yay, more writing for me!
thanks sawtooth! 🤍


Alright then. You agree with my first thoughts on the episode. My next question is "What about our current timeline's original Twilight and Spike?" What happened to them? Wouldn't the inhabitants of that timeline notice two Twilights? Or say that Twilight went back in time. Her personality is almost guaranteed to be at least slightly different than ours. Wouldn't they notice the difference? And if that Twilight time travelled, what about the alternate universes/timelines they created? And what about the one they finally ended up in? The exact same set of questions apply here too.

I didn't watch until you asked what we think before posting. I think they don't merge because the ponies present at the rainboom will have a memory of Twilight and company being there. It will nag at some of them forever, gauranteed. It's like leaving a watermelon on someone's doorstep in the middle of the night.


Nice that he's still making videos even though MLP has ended.


Sawtooth! Did you ever think about the fact that MAYBE twilight, Starlight, and Spike WERE there originally? Like maybe the event of them going back in time was meant to happen? Think about it, if it wasn’t meant to, starlight wouldn’t have reformed, reunited with sunburst, became friends with Trixie, or thorax, and equestria would have fallen to chrysalis anyways, I think this was a time loop sort of event that was meant to happen no matter what, think about it, if it’s meant to happen, and say young rainbow dash saw them, she wouldn’t remember them being their way in the future when she meets twilight, otherwise she would have told twilight she looked familiar upon their meeting, I’m guessing that rainbow and fluttershy are about 6-7 years old when this happens, they wouldn’t remember elder ponies that they get a glimpse of, and never see again, think of it like Re-meeting a family member at a Christmas party who you haven’t seen since you were 6, you don’t ever remember them


I would personally imagine they always had been at the rainboom. My personal interpretation if time travel is that if it's happened, it's happened. That everything within a timeline is closed off within the timeline. For example, if Bob goes back to 2000, it's already happened. All his actions have already happened. So personally, I think that Starlight and Twilight were always there, we just didn't get to see or Rainbow's memory was distorted because of how long ago it was.


You make a good argument, but there's something that was bugging me with the theory. Wouldn't there be another Twilight in the present they returned to if it was not the original? For example, in the alternate timelines where the villains reined, although we never see the Twilight and Spike from those timelines, it doesn't necessarily mean that there's not a version of them that already exists that fit the alternate timelines. So wouldn't that disprove the theory that the timeline they returned to is not the original? Because if it was not the original, there would be another Twilight, Spike, and (maybe) Starlight?? So I guess it's just pure speculation since we never see another Twilight or Spike in the villain timelines, but when Twilight time traveled by herself to warn her past self, there were 2 Twilights in the same timeline. It's just something that I thought about and my thoughts are kind of all over the place so I hope I'm still (somehow) making sense.


okay, the way you talked really settled the atmosphere of the video, do something like this please!

oh yea, and this theory makes a lot of sense, but just like you said, time travel probably works differently because of Starswirl's modified spell


This is an interesting theory with good evidence! However, I think I might have some that will discredit it. The only problem I found with this theory is how it ties into Equestria girls. Specially Forgotten Friendship, Spring Breakdown, and The Friendship Games. At least the first 3 movies are held in the original timeline. In the final scene of the Friendship Games, Twilight goes to the human world through the portal after the fight with Starlight. If she, Spike, and Starlight had started a new timeline and went there, the human 7 in that timeline wouldn't know who she is. Even if they did, because the mane 6 knew as stated in the video, then the Equestria Girls movies would be on different timelines. Assuming it is all on the same timeline, starting a new one would screw up the human world. In FF, Sunset wouldn't be able to go back to Equestria to ask Celestia for forgiveness and find out information about the memory stone. In SB, Rainbow, Sunset, and Twilight couldn't travel to Equestria because there would no Princess Twilight to go to.


I would say the timelines merged back.  If they didn't, then there's an extra Spike, Twilight, and Starlight running around somewhere they might run into.<br>Shame...I do enjoy the idea Chrysalis gets another timeline.  She deserves it after what happens at the end.

I would say the timelines merged back.  If they didn't, then there's an extra Spike, Twilight, and Starlight running around somewhere they might run into.
Shame...I do enjoy the idea Chrysalis gets another timeline.  She deserves it after what happens at the end.

Wouldn't it really be a Storm King timeline tho?


I was going to say myself that I thought along the lines of that timeline merge, where the insignificant event in the past changes the whole timeline but not to recognizable amount.<br>I would have also suggested that maybe it would have already been in place in that timeline to begin with: even though it was unseen, the two would have made their time-cutting appearance at that time and they were just fulfilling their destiny to do so in the past of their own timeline. But at that rate of continuity it would also raise question of why that wouldn't happen with everytime starlight and twilight returned to that moment in the past, and ended up with several copies of each other at that one moment too, as that would already break the continuity of them skipping back to the same moment in time over and over, although at that point the whole premise of time traveling falls apart into paradox anyways...

I was going to say myself that I thought along the lines of that timeline merge, where the insignificant event in the past changes the whole timeline but not to recognizable amount.
I would have also suggested that maybe it would have already been in place in that timeline to begin with: even though it was unseen, the two would have made their time-cutting appearance at that time and they were just fulfilling their destiny to do so in the past of their own timeline. But at that rate of continuity it would also raise question of why that wouldn't happen with everytime starlight and twilight returned to that moment in the past, and ended up with several copies of each other at that one moment too, as that would already break the continuity of them skipping back to the same moment in time over and over, although at that point the whole premise of time traveling falls apart into paradox anyways...


i actually got physical chills when you started talking about the original timeline being left behind, this theory is amazing i can’t believe ur the first i’ve heard to pick up on how it’s probably not the same timeline :0


God, imagine: Flurry Heart,the queen of a broken changeling empire. I'm just imagining the changelings enslaving the ponies and farming their love like animals while Tireck and all the other villains still wreak havoc, the Crystal empire still in snow. I'm also imagining a war between Crysalis and Sombra for control of the empire, one which Chrysalis would indoubtably win. Also, I think the storm king would still try and take over Equestria too til the whole mlp world is engulfed in war between Chrysalis/Flurry Heart and the Storm King. As if that wasn't enough, the original six are still in limbo! How sad us that?<br>Also, I 100% agree with the abandoned world theory.

God, imagine: Flurry Heart,the queen of a broken changeling empire. I'm just imagining the changelings enslaving the ponies and farming their love like animals while Tireck and all the other villains still wreak havoc, the Crystal empire still in snow. I'm also imagining a war between Crysalis and Sombra for control of the empire, one which Chrysalis would indoubtably win. Also, I think the storm king would still try and take over Equestria too til the whole mlp world is engulfed in war between Chrysalis/Flurry Heart and the Storm King. As if that wasn't enough, the original six are still in limbo! How sad us that?
Also, I 100% agree with the abandoned world theory.


I like how Sawtooth is asking The Nameless One now like he truly knows all the answers...


I love the different Fimfics that cover some of those <i>other</i> timelines... but this.... this would be very sad to read about.

I love the different Fimfics that cover some of those _other_ timelines... but this.... this would be very sad to read about.


In the anime Stiens gate there was a force that kept certain events from happening as if fated. They described it as a world line. an event that had such certainty to happen that even large changes to the past would not change the result. Sort of like attempting to change the flow of a river. you can change the direction of a river to a point but it will always flow generally towards the nearest sea unless something more drastic like an entire mountain is moved. hence why I would believe it is the original time line as the change was not enough to shift the resulting flow of events.


Well, considering what Twilight did is very similar to the TVA, I would say the timeline would heal itself and the branch would reset.


5:15
As a Chronomancer And Time Traveller I Can Say Doing Nothing But Doing The Time Travel Spell Still Creates New Dimension So That Means We Have a Total of 19 Different Timelines


Now this theories are getting to Film Theory levels, and i love it


It's also possible that Twilight, Starlight, and Spike switched places with another group of the same trio. Say for instance there were multiple of these groups performing time travel at around the same time, it could have been like a "ring around the rosie" sort of situation. Or it could have even just been two groups - notice that in the "new timeline", there was never any trouble with duplicates of any of the three of them. Being public figures something like that would have been noticed, so it's possible that the trio from the new timeline swapped places with the ones of old, and just like everyone in the new timeline, most likely no one in the old timeline would have known the difference.


What about the map though? Didn't it stay consistent throughout the different timelines? If it had the power to ensure none of the other timelines came to be, surely it would be able to sense and return to the original timeline so that one does not mess up? I mean Starlight used her own twist on the spell and casted it directly on the map, so it may have worked differently than other cases of time travel in the show.

Also, if time travel loops, is it not possible that  Twilight, Starlight and Spike were all originally there but since on the last trip before Starlight's redemption they do not do much to draw attention other than talking, no-one paid attention to them and it was not noted in their history or memories? So in short, it may be more likely the show continued in the original time line?

Awesome theory though! :D


Wait a minute, didn’t you cover this in the Twilight Paradox video? Their choices through time rewrote how time was meant to go each time the went back, to the point they could still be there and time would go as it without them.


After they returned the scroll left out a burst of light. I think the scroll restored everything, otherwise the tree of harmony would have noticed :D


If Twilight disappeared and couldn't be found in Equestria, the next place they would look is the human world. Once the humain seven were alerted that Twilight was missing, they would also join the search.
On one of their many trips to Equestria to search for Twilight, they would discover the main five acting off. The humain seven will uncover the invasion plot, and Sunset will strip as much information about the changelings from the invaders' minds as possible. The humain seven will then be the ones to defeat the changelings and save everypony, but there will be no reformation.
From that day forward, the humain seven will be the ones called whenever Equestria is in danger, until a new element of magic can be found.


I think the original timeline would become the cozy glow timeline but a bit different


I wonder are there more timelines. Soon maybe Sawtooth may just make a whole YouTube channel dedicated to the Multiverse and different mlp timelines.


I'm pretty sure they went back to the original timeline because (when Twilight made Starlight understand that she was being delusional about cutie marks and friendship and when Starlight showed Twilight and Spike what caused her to put all those dangerous delusions in her head) they did not make any "major" changes to either past, so at least most of everything most likely ended up staying the same.  Also after they went back to the present, after Starlight's reformation, the Time Traveling Scroll disappeared into the time void.  If the did end up going to another alternate timeline instead of the original, then the original timeline would have ended up looking the wasteland timeline because of not just Chrysalis and Cozy Glow, but also many other villains they shown in the comic books and the movie.

The one thing I would have like to know most about Starlight was how she got her cutie mark and her talent in manipulating everything with her magic and her own free will.


I think the timeline Twilight, Starlight and Spike returned to is the original timeline. They didn't change anything and just being there in theory shouldn't count as a change unless someone noticed them, and since nopony noticed them in the past it probably doesn't count as a change. Think of it this way, if you take a walk through a park for example and Noone notices you or pays any attention to you, and if you don't interact with anyone will that change there plans or what happens to them after that, no. That's what I think.


Ooh! This was so interesting! I never thought about this b4!
Spoilers for the VIDEO! READ AFTER WATCHING!!!!

I really hope that they did merge into one….That would be SO DARK (and super interesting) if they stayed 2 separate timelines! With Twilight and Spike just proofing out of nowhere into a different timeline and just vanishing into thin air, What would they do? There’s just so many possibilities!!!

Ooh! This was so interesting! I never thought about this b4!
-Spoilers for the VIDEO! READ AFTER WATCHING!!!!-

I really hope that they did merge into one….That would be SO DARK (and super interesting) if they stayed 2 separate timelines! With Twilight and Spike just proofing out of nowhere into a different timeline and just vanishing into thin air, What would they do? There’s just so many possibilities!!!


And so, Hasbro created the PVA, The Pony Variance Authority, to keep a Sacred timeline

(I know someone already made a similar comment but I couldn't resist)

I would say that Twilight Starlight and Spike head to the future of a new timeline which is mostly the same(made fully the same if nopony noticed them in the past during that last timeline), and the other timeline just...ceased to exist. So basically like normal time travel.


If the original timeline were truly abandoned, then it should follow there are 2 sets of Twi, Spike and Starlight in the final timeline, unless the originals of the ninth timeline abandoned their own for some unknown timeline, in which case, why couldn't some trio of time travelers have replaced the three we followed in the original first timeline? Doesn't seem likely it was abandoned.


If it happened how you said then there would be extras of the three rather than thinking of timelines as fine lines think of them as streams of water but the change was small enough to be irrelevant.


Technically going by what you said they did return to the original timeline. Starlight, spike and twilight just became apart of the history and starlight didn’t stop it. And when they left to go back into the original timeline they left the history alone. So they never really affected it in the first place. But that’s just my theory.


It's too depressing to think about, but I think it's ABSOLUTELY correct...


This is an AMAZING theory i never thought of. This it may have changed equestria  forever...


The only problem I see with this is where did the new timelines Starlight and Twilight go especially if this is a timeline where starlight doesn't disrupt time I can only assume the other timelines get erased


I think the two merged together. My reasoning is actually based on a real life phenomenon that I don’t remember the name of. Ever heard of the Barenstain Bears? No? Well maybe you're more familiar with its alternate name, the Barenstein Bears. Most people remember Barenstein bears, but records only show Barenstain. Why is this? Well, people have talked about the possibility of two different, yet very similar timelines merging into one single timeline. I myself actually have been saying Barenstein Bears my whole life. Very interesting stuff. You should look into it.


Deep, very deep!

Now whenever I watch this, this’ll be in mind.


I think it would be a much more militant timeline. A princess as high profile as Twilight disappearing, seemingly without a trace would trigger massive searches for months, if not years. First they would search all of Equestria for the whereabouts of Twilight, the whole time the princesses, the element bearers and Twilight's parents becoming more and more fearful and paranoid. Questions would be circulating about who could have taken a princess without any signs of a struggle and who would benefit the most from it. Then the searches would be expanded to the neighboring countries, then to countries further afield. Eventually that would lead to an open conflict with the changelings, and as powerful as Chrysalis is, she would be no match in an open field of combat against three literal demigoddesses, the war would last for a couple of years, and even though there would be a lot of ponies killed, the changelings would be pushed to the drink of extinction. The whole time Celestia, Luna, Cadance and Shining Armor would never stop their search, even sending out secret agents to try and find any evidence of what happened to the missing princess. The plans of the Storm King would get uncovered prematurely which would trigger a massive military buildup from both Equestria and the Crystal Empire, and they would launch a massive preemptive strike against the Storm Lands and its satellite states, forcefully deposing the Storm King and installing a puppet government in its stead. That would trigger all the other nations to either sign non-aggression pacts with Equestria or sign mutual defense pacts in the hopes of protecting their own homelands and interests. This would trigger Equestria to sign mutual defense pacts with countries and it would cause the world to descend into a period of cold war.


These videos are amazing and suspense building and interesting and very wow


Actually, the possible forgotten universe might not live in vain like the others, this is a show about friendship. And even though in all the other timelines hope was lost since the mane 6 never met, but in the forgotten universe.. the mane 6 already did. So even if twilight wasn't there anymore, along with starlight and spike, it wouldn't be the end of that universe, because their would be a slimmer of hope..and maybe a different universes.

After the three disappear, I imagine that celestia would make a funeral regarding the three, despite the fact they weren't known to be dead.. it's still custom to make a funeral if someone is missing for so long and would be marked as dead.
Twilight would be known in the history books as the youngest alicorn princess to die/disappear.
Her letters to the princess and all she had learned, would be in its own personal archives like starswirl had, and she would be idolized for centuries to come. Her castle would become a historical land point (until later on...)
Celestia and luna would look at twilight the same as starswirl, an amazing unicorn with great potential that disappeared from the world itself, but left behind alot for future generations.
(I'll reply to this comment later on to continue my theory, please let me know what you think of this story build up)

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What if Twilight, Starlight and Spike were always meant to be there to begin with? (the original timeline of you will). Yes, I’m suggesting that at some point in Twilight’s childhood, she coexisted with her future self without realizing it so she (referring to future Twilight) could fulfill Starlight’s redemption.

It’s important to consider how Starlight started out, you know, Sunburst left and she became a communist. As far as we know, nothing in Starlight’s life/ personal timeline has changed when they traveled back in time, granted it’s the fate of all of equestria but the point is Sunburst still would’ve left and she still would’ve became a communist because the main 6’s lives do not directly affect her at this point in time (as they first cross paths in season 5, obvi).

This is confusing so I’ll try to water it down lol. Starlight’s life initially led up to the moment where she decided to go back in time which led to her redemption with Twilight’s help and that creates what I’ll be referring to as the “Glimmer-re-mark” paradox. They (Twilight, Spike and Starlight) were always meant to be there when the Rainboom occurred.

What if Twilight, Starlight and Spike were always meant to be there to begin with? (the original timeline of you will). Yes, I’m suggesting that at some point in Twilight’s childhood, she coexisted with her future self without realizing it so she (referring to future Twilight) could fulfill Starlight’s redemption.

It’s important to consider how Starlight started out, you know, Sunburst left and she became a communist. As far as we know, nothing in Starlight’s life/ personal timeline has changed when they traveled back in time, granted it’s the fate of all of equestria but the point is Sunburst still would’ve left and she still would’ve became a communist because the main 6’s lives do not directly affect her at this point in time (as they first cross paths in season 5, obvi).

This is confusing so I’ll try to water it down lol. Starlight’s life initially led up to the moment where she decided to go back in time which led to her redemption with Twilight’s help and that creates what I’ll be referring to as the “Glimmer-re-mark” paradox. They (Twilight, Spike and Starlight) were *always* meant to be there when the Rainboom occurred.


I've just watched this video and realized if starlight glimmer wasn't there to be apart of cozy glow's magic drain,cozy glow wouldn't have been able to drain all the magic and takeover all of Equestria


its kinda funny how i made a harmless joke about the last episode in season five a few years ago

after twilight, starlight and spike made it back, i said

"THEY NEVER MADE IT BACK, THEY'RE IN A DIFFERNT TIMELINE MUHAHAHAHAHA"

now i'm actually kinda worried-


I mean, if they switched timelines, what happened to the original Starlight, Twilight and Spike in the timeline they ended up in? Maybe they traded places and everything went okay after all? Or does that create a 10th timeline? And if so, what happened to the original Starlight, Twilight and Spike of the 10th timeline? Does it make an 11th timeline? Or does the similarities in both 9th and 10th timeline make them merge together?
*screaming in confusion*

I mean, if they switched timelines, what happened to the original Starlight, Twilight and Spike in the timeline they ended up in? Maybe they traded places and everything went okay after all? Or does that create a 10th timeline? And if so, what happened to the original Starlight, Twilight and Spike of the 10th timeline? Does it make an 11th timeline? Or does the similarities in both 9th and 10th timeline make them merge together?
**screaming in confusion**


The problem with the time is that is works differently in other dimensions/multiverse, our laws of phisycs dont apply to their world.


Interesting... But Starlight, Spike, and Twilight went back into the past, not into a different universe. So, when they came back, they probably didn't end up in a different universe and that means nothing really changed except for the fact that Spike, Twilight, and Starlight were there to see the rainboom. I don't know if this makes sense but that's what I think.


well, going by Back to the Future rules, the most commonly accepted and seemingly fitting ruleset for this episode, they WOULD be back in the original.


I believe that Twilight, Starlight, and spike being there would not have made a different timeline because just them seeing the race is not a big difference so it may just lead to the same timeline <br>Idk though I may just be trying to make sense of it.

I believe that Twilight, Starlight, and spike being there would not have made a different timeline because just them seeing the race is not a big difference so it may just lead to the same timeline
Idk though I may just be trying to make sense of it.


Wouldn't there be two Twilight's in the same  universe? Since there would be Twilight from that universe and the "new" one. Unless the Twilight teleprted away creating a loop. Or maybe in that loop she jumpes between the two universes and "exchanges" Twilights.


Let say you are right.
Let's also say that Crysalis does take over Equestria.
Cozyglow would definitely notice this, but she may not think that friendship is power. After all, she said Twilight taught her that. But let's just say that Tirek teaches her that instead. She would use what Tirek tells her about magic to wipe away magic in Equestria to "save" them from Crysalis. And because Twilight isn't there, and there's no Young 6 and the Pillars are still in Limbo, Cozy will succeed. After successfully getting rid of all magic, Cozyglow will go on to try and take over Equestria. Whether or not she succeeds at that, is up for debate.
Because not only will Cozyglow have to try and fight the whole of the Earth ponies and Pegasi of the royal guard, she will also have to try and fight Celestia and Luna, who aren't going to give up so easily. Likely Cozy will be beaten and locked away in the Canterlot dungeon for life. And then Equestria will still have to deal with the loss of Twilight and ALL magic.
But Cozy will also have to find a way to get the artifacts from the other creatures Kingdoms as well. Because without the school, the wouldn't be right at her hooves.


If the timeline they transferred into was exactly the same , then in that timeline there would have been another spike, another starlight, and another twilight sparkle doing the exact same thing ,  I'm going to call the abandoned time line that twi left , timeline2,  the one the went into is timeline3 , so twilight , starlight and spike unknowingly left timeline2 and joined timeline3,but the twi,star, and spike from timeline3 would have joined timeline4( etc.) So our orgianal twi left timeline2 but there must have been a twilight from timeline1 that joined timeline 2 , so the abandoned timeline would have survived , sure it lost its orgianal twilight , but a new one arrived to help.

( I know this is complicated )


I actually think that maybe Twilight, Starlight, and Spike were in the background during the Rainboom. In The Cutie-Mark Chronicles, they may have been somewhere we couldn't see them so that we wouldn't suspect it.


No you have to have one to take one. When Twilight went back in time Twilight equals 0 in the original timeline the universe is not happy. Once Twilight fix the old timeline and went back to the original timeline Twilight e41 in both timelines so the universe was happy. Pence it's the same timeline


Speaking of Starlight...there’s someone who looks similar to Starlight <br>If you watch rainbow rocks and the season 5 premier,you’ll see that someone looks similar to Starlight

Speaking of Starlight...there’s someone who looks similar to Starlight
If you watch rainbow rocks and the season 5 premier,you’ll see that someone looks similar to Starlight

Think about it after you watch them
They have the same eye,coat and mane colors
They know a lot of people (or ponies)
And they know how to manipulate


I believe Twilight, Spike, and Starlight were at the original timeline race where Dash performed the Rainboom, we just didn't realize until the season 5 finale.


When they left that timeline they were at the moment of the rainboom, the younger Twilight from that timelime could still be there and everything would have been the same, except for the other Twilight, Spike and Starlight


It's also possible that Twilight Starlight and Spike were actually there in that original scene but we just didn't know it so nothing actually changed


that honestly sounds like it could be g5's timeline


Tbh i hate how they made mlp new generation without completing this one and left us with a gigantic amount of questions


I think you're wrong, unless the two Rainboom timelines did indeed merge.

How?

Two words: Sunset Shimmer.

The portal at CHS is linked to the original timeline, so it shouldn't have led to a new timeline where Twilight  Starlight and Spike returned to, but the original one in which those 3 no longer exist, but that isn't the case.

When Twilight runs through the portal at the end of Friendship Games she mentioned the Time Loop, meaning either the two Rainboom timelines merged or the portal, for unexplained reasons, disconnected from the original timeline after Sci-Twi stoll its magic and reconnected to the new timeline after the fact... which wouldn't actually work out because that wouldn't explain why the naturally occurring portal from Spring Breakdown connects to the new timeline as well.

So, merged timeline is most likely there


Surprised that no-one is pointing this out. If Starlight, Spike and Twilight returned to a timeline that already existed then wouldn't there be versions of them there already?


To whoever read this comment, Starlight was never intention to destory the timeline; she just went to the past to keep the Mane 6 away for ruined her village and she is not a communism. This is literal basic mistake whenever people have the power go back to time, they think it fix their problem it only make thing even worst than the original time line. For why Twilight friends didn't look for her, because they actually only gone for a few minutes inside the time loop.


This is why you should never time travel, it only leads to confusion and the destruction of the past , present and future and if this is not the case it might lead to permanent changes.


wait. is there actually a scene from the cutie mark episode that definitively proves this theory true? if so im genuinely upset


This was a problem I was boggled since Cutie Re-Mark

I'm so glad you talked about this


Cozy Glow drains magic from Equestria in the forgotten Timeline without anyone stopping her and in MLP G5 magic is gone from Equestria so we will return to that timeline and see what happened with Twilight, Starlight and Spike gone


It sounded very creepy..... the kinda forgoten timeline, the original one been banded... only IF it actualy works the timeline way we have in our minds


Because of the spell that timeline would technically be destroyed because of the changes, time travel is it’s own confusion


If thats a different timeline then where is that timeline's Twilight, Starlight, and Spike?


maybe the rest of the main six in the new timeline wind up taking the place of twilight , starlight and spike. who do you think would have replaced them and in what?

like who would be the princess, who would help stop the winter, who would stop the changelings, would the collage of friendship happen or not , if so how would the new six meet? I feel like this would be a fun writing prompt.


i think this wouldn't happen because if they switched timeline then what happened to the group that already was in that timeline, there would have been 2 of twilight spike and the other one I forgot the name of. i think that they always went back in time and stayed in the same timeline just they fulfilled them going back in time. just no one ever noticed they were there. just like how in the first case of time travel twilight ended up fulfilling the time travel by still warning herself and ended up saying the same stuff that past future twilight said. sorry if this doesn't make sense but it makes sense in my head. I tried to explain it best i could.


The horrifying part is that there probably is another sawtooth there
Including his Clones who (funfact) never blink

Reality is doomed

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As we all knows Starlight and Twilight went back in time but since Starlight altered so many ultimate realities and then when they went back the final time they did nothing it’s completely possible that they went there before the original then boom did have them there and it ended with them doing nothing it’s a theory but could work like if you go back to watch an event and do nothing in the future you’ll still do that as time goes on probably only a theory a my little pony theory


What if twilight, spike and starlight was there in first/real timeline but nobody noticed them because they didn't cause any thing  and that's why they aren't in history. Now you might say 'there can't be 2 twilights spikes and starlights in one timeline' but they time traveled from the future so technically they can be there. Atleast that's how I think time travel works🤨


This is probably a bad idea because I’m only at the 2:02 mark but does that mean….there were other outcomes?! Like Chrysalis was successful in the equivalent moment of season 6 or the storm king conquered Equestria without a fight?!


They did not return to a new timeline.  Because that timeline did not have an "original" TS, Spike, and SG in it.  Which is not possible given that it is identical.


This is an interesting theory, how I couldn't noticed this things before!


I think in the real rainboom time line,there was that future starlight and spike,twilight. so the future became true when the real time occured


If it just becomes another Crysalis timeline i think the nuculear war wastland would still win the creepiest.


I have a theory that friendship is magic and pony life two different timelines, I will list my reasoning down below:
1. Alternate timelines and universes is cannon; we see this accure when Starlight glimmer prevented the sonic rainboom, causing twilight and spike to trave to other realities.
2. Modern technology; in pony life cellphones and laptops are present, but friendship is magic has a mid-evil feel to it
3. Different landscape; pony life has sugarcube corner on the edge of a cliff and a rainbow potion lake, while friendship is magic has constant landscape (excluding the construction of twilight's castle and the friendship school)
4. Character design; every character in friendship is magic was well detailed as main character or background character, but pony life makes the cutiemarks and characters overly simple


This would mean that all the other timelines wouldn't get erased after they fixed the rain boom. What if they all just never existed idk


Didn’t cozy glow become evil because she went to the school of friendship?

no, she was already evil before she got there.


Wait, if Cozy Glow drained the all the magic from equestria, wouldn't chrysalis be powerless? She would probably be taken down without any magic to protect her. Without magic the only thing that would matter was money and connections. So Cozy would probably rise to the top eventually, as she good at manipulating ponies to get what she wants. Though if anypony found out what she was doing it would be just as easy to defeat her as it was chrysalis. They both had armies, one a group of changelings and the other a group of tricked ponies.


I think that maybe no one noticed spike twilight and starlight and because of that it was a forgotten part of rainbows memory and nothing would change because in the episode of how everypony got their cutie mark we don’t see the cloud the 3 are on so it might be the original time line but because as we get older we forget small details rainbow might not have payed too much attention to them. Tell me what you think of this conclusion. And does anyone agree?


cough The original Abandoned Timeline ended in Generation 5 and is somehow the reason, why the three races broke with each other AND the Crystal Empire wasn't mentioned somewhere in the Previews. cough
Just a quick theory xD

*cough* The original Abandoned Timeline ended in Generation 5 and is somehow the reason, why the three races broke with each other AND the Crystal Empire wasn't mentioned somewhere in the Previews. *cough*
Just a quick theory xD


Sawtooth is the MatPat of the MLP Fandom<br>But better

Sawtooth is the MatPat of the MLP Fandom
But better


@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video about Tempest shadow, and how was she able to control her magic!


Hold on if Twilight Sparkle, Spike and Starlight Glimmer went into the new timeline what happened to the Twilight, Spike and Starlight that already were in it?


There would be three timelines: our current one, the OG and the one were they return to the OG.


I alwas considert it like the original timeline Alwas had Starlight, Twilight and Spike on the cloud, because at that point in the timeline Starlights destiny had alredy been set in Stone, and she had alredy done it in the future. (Just like With the normal MLPFIM time trawel) The timeline were only tranged because they actively interferd, in other Words by doing exactly nothing While bieng in the the past, they created the original timeline we have all followt Them in since episode one. (Relly hope this is a good explanation)

Olso: are we just tottaly gonna ignore the end scene in equestria girls frindship games, i mean IF... that movie takes place in the same timeline as the two previous Movies, and we go With Sawtooth Waws logic, Twilight wouldent show op... ok now that im thinking about it, that propleply depends if the two worlds are parallel ore not... You know what, i will lead it to you guess, what do you Think would happend in the Human world?


Well then where is the Twilight Spike and Starlight from the new timeline they created? Wouldnt that mean that there should be another set of them unless they went back to the original


But—then if your theory is right, where are the original Starlight, Twilight and Spike in this, if they return to a new timeline, they should have their past duplicates or, if not, the other mane five, shouldn’t recognize them


Wait what would of happened to the Twilight in the new timeline before Spike, Twilight and Starlight time traveled there!? Would she of also time traveled and maybe ended up in the old timeline..?


i am pretty sure there are endless versions of dimensions ! let me nameless it !


Nobody noticed Twilight, Starlight, and Spike in that final timestream that had them ending up back in their timeline that we know of, but even still it might not have the effects that you brought up in this video. But that's just more confusing time mumbo jumbo I'm too tired to delve in to.


The seven different worlds represent the main six and spike so if the world is forgotten are the events still going on in that forgotten world?


"Why dont I nameless it?"😂 but also ive had this same theory but I never considered the futer of the other timeline😟


I dont think thats the case. Cus time is a straight line and if someone time travels back in time, when they go back to their own time, its in the same timeline/universe. Always. Especially that the rainboom didnt change and so everyone gets their cutiemarks as usual and everything.<br>And so it means that a future Twilight, Spike and Starlight witnessed the rainboom all along. What I mean is, in the timeline of the show when it first started, there was the argument of Twilight and Starlight in the background. Its just that we didnt see it in Season 1. I hope you understand what I mean ^^'

I dont think thats the case. Cus time is a straight line and if someone time travels back in time, when they go back to their own time, its in the same timeline/universe. Always. Especially that the rainboom didnt change and so everyone gets their cutiemarks as usual and everything.
And so it means that a future Twilight, Spike and Starlight witnessed the rainboom all along. What I mean is, in the timeline of the show when it first started, there was the argument of Twilight and Starlight in the background. Its just that we didnt see it in Season 1. I hope you understand what I mean ^^'


I think King Sombra came from the same village Mistmane came, as they have curved horns like Sombra

sombra didn't come from Mistmane's village, and the only reason he has a curved horn is because he was corrupted by dark magic.


Dude I love this video lol it’s so creepy tho…


I want a sad fanfiction about the original timeline mane 6 now


They merged back into the same timeline. I think you are reading too much into it


Following the new series "Loki" logic, only if its a big change like what He who remains said only the major branched timelines would be pruned so his variant (Kang) will not start a multiversal war.


4:28 i think it is that, otherwise, what append to the young spike, starlight and twilight? there would be twice in the same universe


@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video about if 🦄s can use their magic to regrow their broken horns! Or what happens if a 🦄’s horn brakes, will it die? 🤔 about it.


What if the last timeline we saw where twilight spike and starlight were there talking and twilights talked about how important she and her friends r to equestrian was this timeline were twilight spike and starlight r not existing in it ? <br>Twilight was an important pony to equestrian and all this happening is reasonable to that timeline I mentioned, but then that would affect chrysalis’s attack and somehow something else would have come on their way and not chrysalis,maybe storm king ?

What if the last timeline we saw where twilight spike and starlight were there talking and twilights talked about how important she and her friends r to equestrian was this timeline were twilight spike and starlight r not existing in it ?
Twilight was an important pony to equestrian and all this happening is reasonable to that timeline I mentioned, but then that would affect chrysalis’s attack and somehow something else would have come on their way and not chrysalis,maybe storm king ?


Making a children's cartoon dark? Oof thought Rick and morty was confusing when it comes to time lines although final space is even more confusing in the same matter


I’m calling Google, Nameless now. Thanks OwO


Friends don't let their friends write time travel stories.


I think it is only one time line. All that time lines never existed. It is only in the memory of Twilight and Spike.


@Sawtooth Waves Hey maybe you can make a video to find out what happened to Gallus’s parents and family!


Could you come out with what the world would look like if cozy glow won

with no magic, pegasus ponies can't clear the sky and control the weather, unicorns can't control magical artifacts or anything related to magic, earth ponies can't grow and produce food for everyone else, and even the sisters wouldn't be able to raise the sun and moon. even cadence wouldn't be able to protect the empire, as the crystal heart would've been drained of magic, letting the arctic cold into the empire.


Nice video this is the mistey that never being solved by hasbro , nice video


I think you’re right but the twilights different universe just swap


what if you force nameless to go to that timeline you said to him


OK hear me out what if it didn't branch off into a different timeline because twighlight and starlight and spike were all supposed to be there they were supposed to go back in time bc that was the only way starlight would learn friendship


The lost timeline = g5 since magic has faded from the world in g5


Just throw another Twilight of the current timelin to the original


Ah yes, Nameless, my standard search engine


For everyone asking if there would be two twilights and starlights, I have a potential explanation.

The Starlight and Twilight of the new timeline would have also time traveled and created basically duplicate timelines of the bad futures, while og twilight and starlight basically replaced them.

Time loop ig…wait…thats not the rigjt word for it…


What if in the real timeline twilight starlight and spike we’re just there


I think that MatPat has already made this video since I know that this channel is a sister YouTube channel to The Game Theorist/The Film Theorist/The Food Theorist/GTLive. And I know who is voice acting Sawtooth Waves. Isn’t that right The Brony Theorist?

*Isn’t that right The Brony Theorist or should I say Mathew Patrick?


Or maybe they returned to the ‘original’ one?


but what if they were there in the original time line and its all the same time line


So if anyone watched avengers endgame they would know that if you go back in time and fix what you did so in their case the rain boom everything would be fixed no variant timeline but if something was changed like a person saw them who wasn’t meant to that would cause a variant timeline but no pony did so their time would’ve branched multiple times but been fixed and they would’ve returned to their timeline since the fixed everything like the ancient one said in avengers endgame if you take one infinity stone it may benefit your timeline but not my new timeline but since twilight spike and starlight returned and fixed timeline they returned to their own time line


Sawtooth I want to ask if luster dawn is the new pony of generasion of the mane 6 did she will be a queen one time just like Twilight or flurry heart will be the queen  I just wonder


Whelp, this got dark real fast-

🤤🤤🤤🤤😨😨😨😰😰😰😱😱😱😵😵😵


I just thought of the what if Generation 5 that is coming out soon part of the original timeline?


sawtooth, I think you touch a nerve there with the nameless one xDDu