Moral: It's About Time (DPC #7)

After watching 6 seasons of doctor who, I'm willing to just go with whatever time loop they create

Didn't Pinkie pie find the spell? After everything happened and Future twilight realized she had been silly, Pinkie pops up with the spell and these words. "I didn't find a spell that could stop time, but I DID find a spell that let's you go back in time!". This means that if Twilight hadn't taken Pinkie along with her, she'd never have found the spell, and the loop would have been undone. I guess that makes Pinkie pie the trigger for the loop.

And Twilight's fears weren't completely ungrounded.... Tirek did end up escaping while Cerberus was in ponyville.

Well, most people see time as linear, strictly cause and effect, But if you look at it in a non-linear, non-subjective way, it is more like a big ball of wibbley-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
In other words, Future Twilight always came back, because the cause and the effect were always paired together. There was never an iteration of this time loop where both events did not happen.
Also, I find that Pinkie Pie exemplifies the right attitude toward the future, here. Readiness, but not obsession.

I have a theory on how Twilight new where the archives were:
Pinkie Pie told her. Pinkie knew exactly where the door was in the episode, and TOLD Twilight that it was there. And also, I think Pinkie was part of the 'initial' problem that started the loop, hence why Future Twilight knew where the Time Spells where 'initially' were. But as to what the 'initial' problem actually was, well, I got nothing. Perhaps one of the things Twilight prepared for in her "FREAK OUT" period, therefore it was only a problem once, so Future Twilight actually did prevent the catastrophe.

For your quantum confusion, the very first past Twilight would continue on her path until she somehow learned about the time spells. Maybe Celestia gave her an assignment considering the space time continuum? Although, I can't exactly say as to how the 'FREAK OUT' loop started, anywho... I think about space-time rips/loops all the time, so, if you've got anymore questions, I'd gladly attempt to answer them without sonding like a crazy person.

Excuse me but did anyone notice in "It's About Time" the three headed dog? He is the same dog that keep Tirek in his prison. Meaning that in Season 2, Tirek has escaped his prison cell and was gaining energy from then ti'll the finale of Season 4. Maybe you can search more into that Notion.

I knew about this paradox. The fact about the time spells' location received by Twilight had no origin. If time travel were possible, this paradox would be impossible. For the information needs to come from an external source native to the time period you're currently in, not a future source. Information from a future source would cause a parallel timeline to branch off of the one you're from, making you return to an alternate present meeting another version of yourself & everyone you know. You can't literally alter your own present, you can only create parallel universes whose presents are different. So unless you have a means of returning to your own timeline, don't change the past or you'll wind up in the wrong universe.

Don't get me wrong, an infinite loop could very well be possible if time travel were a thing, but not in this sense. The past cannot be fated by the future of the same timeline. But It's possible to Interfere without changing anything in the past. I'd also advise you watch what you say & who you say it to. Be very vague, using information that can only be known in the past, else you risk returning to an alternate present, meeting an alternate version of yourself.

"It's about time."
*shows Ticket Master*

yeah me too i felt confused with the loop, which fits in my definition of a paradox, the thing is actually it was better for her to go in the past to make her past self panic, if not she would have wiped out her memory by creating an alternate reality in which she never panics and never learns the lesson about the future
this was not about the original knowledge of the time spells this was another path just so you know

The loop idea works just fine. It's causally self sustaining.
The problem is, you think there needs to be something that loops it at the very beginning. Well, the cause for that... is future twilight coming back in time.
A circle NEEDS no beginning. It only seems like a paradox because you're not used to thinking in causal loops.

Future Twilight is a predestination paradox, forming a closed loop. The information about the location of the time spells is an ontological paradox, but not a perfect one. This is because, as we learn at the end of season 4, Tirek actually escaped from Tartarus during this episode. And we see Celestia was in the archives on the Tuesday morning that Future twilight travels from.
The original, causal timeline could have been very similar; with Cerberus appearing, Tirek escaping, Twilight traveling to Canterlot to speak with Celestia about Cerberus and potential dangers posed by him leaving his post, Celestia showing her the location of the time spells and told her that cerberus wasn't a serious portend (though it was), then Twilight using the time spells to travel back and warn herself to not worry about it. The warning itself is extremely vauge and incomplete, thus setting off the events we see and closing the loop.

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loops are always constant. all things must have a beginning, but when actions cause your previous action to not have happened (such as the grandfather paradox {this particular definition depending on how one would define the parameters of a self correcting timeline}), or merely an orgin point, the beginning becomes meaningless, just like parrallel dimensions. if it is possible to occur and parallel dimensions are infinite, then it has occurred, is occurring and will occur again. thus if a beginning of a loop can occur, then it must and already has. the origin of a loop is merely one timeline/parrallel universe among many, and isnt really important, other than the fact that it is possible to have happened (of course given that there are an infinite amount of parallel universes).
its just like C++, there is a for statement, but it is merely the vehicle for the loop to occur, and is, in and of itself, of no actual important

It's called a time paradox. There was no beginning to the loop, the loop has always been here, and always will be. It's wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Like if you get that reference.

Bootstrap paradoxes are pretty impossible to determine an origin point if there even is one as the cause usually information would have been passed down from several infinite passings ago.

What you're talking about with the Time Spell is known as the Ontalogical Paradox.  The fact that certain information can appear from nowhere in a stable time loop.   A similar parodox occurs in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, where Future Link learns a song from a man, goes back in time to use the song which leads that man to remember the song and pass it on to Adult Link. 

The weird thing is that it both seems impossible but is simmultaneously inevitable. After all if Twilight didn't know where the Time Spells were kept how would she sustain the time loop?  It's basically hard destiny. Nothing could have prevented Twilight from going back in time because if she didn't then Future Twilight would have never appeared into Twilight's life in the first place.

the temporal loop you're talking about is a common paradox addressed by the theories of time travel. Pretty much there are three big theories as to what would happen if you time traveled. the first is a temporal loop or time paradox like what twilight experienced. The warning happened in the past which led to the future where the warning became necessary to begin with so both occur on the same timeline. another possible outcome is like the one addressed in DBZ where the original timeline doesn't change at all, but an alternate timeline is still created so the events of the first future never happen to the second future. the third most popular possibility is the one addressed in back to the future based off of chaos theory, called quantum causality, where changing one event changes everything.
 I can't really get mad at this episode for going with the temporal loop. I've seen it in other media intended for kids and it provides the most comedy. It makes sense in that it doesn't make sense. And I'm okay with that.

A good episode idea:

Can other ponies see a unicorn's magic aura?

It would be interesting...

There is something called the Predestination Paradox. It states that these types of time travel have no beginning or end.

It started when Cerberus got out she battled him and you get the idea. Then she did other things like examining weather patterns when suddenly her telescope went up and at the sun. Eventually she went to the canterlot library and looked at time spells then decided to go back and warn her past self about all the bad things that would happen then the episode plays out and you get the idea

bingo i think i got this paradox right, took me some time:
the first twilight started early looking for the time travel spells, with the intention to make herself learn a lesson on worrying about the future that she couldn't learn just like that
then she went in the past, trying to tell her younger self something to make her panic
then that younger self later became the future self, but she looked more like the twilight that we see in the episode, with all the suit and scratches, and she tried to tell her younger self not to panic
naturally she failed, causing this temporal loop and that is how this episode was born, wiping the original twilight reality and replacing it by the loop where she learns the lesson.

yes i know this is complicated but i'll try to simplify it:
1st reality: twilight tries to teach herself a lesson, goes and tells her younger self something to make her panic
1st alternate reality: young twilight panics, she does things that will make her look like future twilight in the episode, becomes new future twilight and replaces the original future twilight in the time reality, thus is created one part of the new reality
2nd alternate reality: new future twilight comes and tells new young twilight not to panic, fails and new young twilight panics like the original young twilight, does the exact same things and the loop that will stay in the new reality is created
and this is how the episode situation is created, with the original twilight trying to teach herself a lesson, and since she did it in the episode, she learned the lesson.
god it is hard to make this simpler, i tried my best, if you don't understand a part write it in the comments.

Twilight's knowledge of the time travel spells is originally told by Twilight too herself. It's called a Stable Time Loop, an event in the past inspires a time traveler to cause that event in the past, and as a result that event in the past inspires the time traveler, and the loop repeats ad infinitum, it's a type of paradox, only one that doesn't break time.

The paradox here is essentially the opposite of a grandfather paradox: a causal loop, in which an event causes itself to happen, thus violating causality. It’s a weird one, to be sure.

And your right about the loop concept. In fact it DOES work, as the basic of the loop factor is that it can happen in the future dimension as well as the past dimension, both for an infinite amount of time. So that means there is no beginning, and no end. I was confused as well when I first saw it, then I thought of infinity, and how there is also negative-infinity. Using numbers for an example, 0 is not the middle, beginning, or end, it is the middle between negative and positive, yes, but can't be the middle if both negative and positive numbers are infinite. Thus meaning there is a positive, or future, and a negative, or past, version of the loop that goes infinitely in both directions, that can never be equal, but always equal. If this confused you, here it is simple, it is infinite in both directions.

To answer your question at the end of the video.
I know I'm late on this but I do have a theory! I have gone by this every time I watch anything with time travel.
If you go back in time the things you do don't change the future or present, this is because they all ready happened (cause you time traveled to the past)! This episode does this very well and that is why I enjoy watching it.

the original twilight had a problem on worry.
she went back in time to warn her past self
then she told the other twilight where the spell
was and mest it all up by creating a loop.
if she never time traveld, none of this would
have happened. and if past twilight just listened(moral)
it would have been easier. thou it was nice of twilight to try to make life easier for past self(moral)

I don't think there is a time travel 'confussion' here. It is a perfectly closed loop.
The event started itself. Normally that doesn't happen, so most people get confused. But if you want to accept time travel you also have to know that logic doesn't work anymore. The loop existed because it exists. It created itself. Kinda like the big bang. It just began at one 'moment'.

This episode is a perfect example of the bootstrap paradox

Not saying anything was wrong with your video, just when I was watching another video it talked about how Pinkie Pie was a happy medium, still thinking about the future by setting up precautions but letting it get the best of her.

On the time travel thing, time travel always hurts my head, but in these things there wasn't a moment in time that that didn't happen and she learned of the wing it just always happened. If I don't think too hard on time travel it's always better. Though I wish they did more to tie the future in with the present. An example would like Twilight was the one who dropped the pot on Twilights head, or maybe somehow she let loose Cerberus. I don't know, just a thought from someone who hasn't even made a video.

That's exactly what I was wondering! MABYE there was some kind of disaster that future Twilight discovered without another future Twilight telling her. Then the future Twilight starts worrying and wearing ridiculous clothes just like all the other Twilights were doing. So the future Twilight kind of had the same problems all the other twilights had except that the future twilight knew that a disaster was coming without another future Twilight telling her that a disaster was coming. And TBN, if this helps, please reply

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Simple. The loop is a temporal paradox known as the bootstrap paradox. It is when something creates itself by going back in time.

The loop theory can be hard to explain but I have a good educated guess. The first Twilight before the loop when through the the events in the episode and couldn't handle it seeing how she didn't know they were coming. So that Twilight went back in time to warn herself but because of the time limit of the spell she was cut off; causing past Twilight to worry and be more prepared for the events. But when past Twilight found out there was nothing to worry about because is was prepared, she when back in time to stop herself from worrying but the time limit stopped her causing the loop that's in the show.

The thing with time is that it is infinite. Think of it like a number scale. no matter how many twilights you go back, there is always another that set off that one. on a number scale, there is always a number less/more than the number you are looking at.

Maybe once Twilight accidentally did something, and so was searching for a spell to go back in time and warn her past self not to do that. But then because of past twilight's rambling on, and so worried and never did the thing she was warned not to do, but then eventually decided to go back in time and tell herself not to worry, but because of past twilight's rambling on, her message never came through and so the cycle began.

I think that originally future Twilight came from an alternate time line where she wasn't able to defeat tirek. Celestia did say that Tirek probably escaped when cerberus wasn't guarding the gates.

1)The leaky damn floods
2)Twi searches for time travel spell and goes back in time to stop the disaster
3)She speaks to her past self but don't tell her what goes wrong
4)Past Twi freaks out
5)Cannon loop

Things get complicated when you talk about time travel. Yes the time loop is in itself a parodox, but it would be even worse if future Twilight went back to warn past Twilight and past Twilight when she became future Twilight never went back to warn past Twilight. So yeah, that just happened, thank you for reading this to the end. If I didn't lose you halfway through this comment feel free to leave a response.

"I've been wanting to do a Twilight episode for a while, so it was 'About Time' I did this one". Ok, good one.

The event that originally made her want to go back to warn herself could have been one of the many things we see Twilight preventing on her spiral to madness.

You're a Doctor Who fan, right? Without saying the obvious joke, actually IMAGINE time as a ball of thread. Most people's timelines will run side by side in parallel because we travel time the same way, but imagine what the Doctor's time must look like - it'd be like a stray thread dipping in and out of other people's timelines. Very hard to comprehend for simple being like ourselves who only traverse the 4th dimension in a single direction.

The Doctor and Sally's timelines got caught in an 'event loop' where one thing couldn't happen without the other one happening first, but here's the thing: both of them happened first. The Doctor and Sally's timelines created a figurative 'Reef knot' (look it up if you don't know what one looks like).

The Doctor's timeline first touched Sally's later on in her timeline; likewise, Sally's timeline first touched the Doctor's later in his. From the perspective of each of the characters, there were no faults with the events that take place; they simply caused a time loop.

Similar events in It's About Time - Twilight going back on herself caused an event loop. Sure, it looks trippy from our perspective, but that's because we're used to dealing with time one second at a time; we can't comprehend any alternative way that time could travel and that's because people assume that time is a strict progression of cause and effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective view point, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey...stuff.

The same thing happened in Feeling Pinkie Keen. Pinkie said a "doozy" was coming and it would happen at Froggy Bottom Bog, but the only reason it happened there was that they went there to find it.

The simple reason is because it is a Bootstrap paradox where time travel creates something with zero origin

The best way I've heard these kind of paradoxes explained is, think of them like a bridge across a massive gorge.  Remove any part of the bridge and it will collapse.  But obviously the bridge didn't just appear in its entirety.  It was built a little bit at a time, but that isn't evident once the bridge is completed.

It was either wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff, or the initial instance of time travel was an experiment to see if it was even possible...

...although that second idea doesn't even really make sense on paper, so...

Oh please do "A Canterlot Wedding" that was the first episode I watched, and even though it was a wedding I always thought it was about trusting your instincts, what do you think +The Brony Notion

Thanks for doing this! Could you do Magical Mystery Cure or Princess Twilight Sparkle?

the reason why all the causes and effects are happening is because that's the way time travel works. if you do something in the future or past it will repeat itself with no stopping there's no way to control it the way it works.

My theory is that the first Twilight to go back spent longer looking for the spells.

She just saved herself a few hours by telling her past self there they were.

Remember at the beginning of the episode where Twilight wa worried about her schedule (or something)?
Future Twilight comes to warn herself not to worry about her schedule
She freaks out because of her warning
things happen
goes back
loop
the schedule is the trigger

Have you ever suggested that the future was made before the past? And maybe Celestia was behind this game?

"Its about time"  to show you the pic of The Ticket Master xD

Anyways, I think.. Ok so, lets talk about the first Twilight, she just does her normal things but however, she found a book dropping down from her bookcase which she had not read before. She then reads it. Found out about the moral of being careful of the past. Then overly freaks out and tries to be careful of everything and moniters everything.She caught a burn in her eye and all because of the same thing the episode showed us. She also got everything else like burnt hair etc. After a while, she noticed that nothing happened. She noticed that she over reacted. Then, she decided to warn PAST Twilight to not over react. Then, she went to Pinkie Pie, ask where the time spell was, got it and went back to the time before the book dropped. She then warns her but Past Twilight keeps talking and asking that she didn't have a chance. And her time timed out. Then, the Past Twilight just did everything the first Twilight does, skipping the book part cause she is already warned and probably used magic to push all the books back into place. And she does everything the first twilight does and the cycle continues like in the episode.

Well, not really sure if this is true but... just thinking :P

the loop idea works fine. in order to put the original knowledge into the loop you have to be om another plan but their isn't anyone to do that as far as we know so the original knowledge didn't come from anywhere it is in an eternal loop that goes infinitely forward and backward.

I have a theory. The loop idea doesn't work because time is impossible to understand... and is also a big ball of wobbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

Maybe the original twilight found out all that stuff on her own and started worrying about something else. That Tuesday morning, she went back to warn herself not to do something. Past twilight spent all week worrying so she couldn't do whatever twilight didn't want her to do.

And to think, this whole thing could have been avoided if Twilight just cut a single hair on her head. Butterfly effect.

There is an infinite amount of twilights each coming from a different moment in time. So the loop never started

Maybe the knowledge came when THE VERY FIRST Twiglight started worrying that in the future something bad might happen and then she found out how to travel in time and then you should know what happened next.

I totally agree on a True True Friend but also why can you only use the time scrolls once or all scrolls for the most part

Oh God... I started thinking about time and paradoxes and now I'm crying and I'm trying so hard to understand this!

maby in the first universe twilight went back to tell herself a warning about how Cerberus disappeared which caused something bad to happen then she went back in time and tried to stop it she had worried and then the cycle started with the original twilights problem fixed.  
sorry if its confusing

The causality loop is a common problem with time-travel fiction. It's a trap that nearly all writers who attempt time travel run into. There is no fix for it, one must merely enjoy the ride and ignore the fact that the scenario can never be possible in any way even if one could time travel for real. I don't like saying that because it conflicts with my infinite universe theory (if there is an infinite number of universes each with a different version of reality, then every conceivable combination of factors must occur eventually, thus every conceivable version of reality must exist. This means that every fiction ever is reality in another universe somewhere.) Honestly though, I can't conceive of a scenario in which the causality loop could ever actually occur. Unless, I suppose, the time traveller took the place of someone within the original timeline and did something that had initially happened without time travel. Perhaps Celestia decided specifically to teach Twilight this lesson, and so gave her a meaningless warning and somewhere along the line Twi looked up the time spells for the 'halt time' plan, which inadvertently triggered a loop when the first Twilight tried to warn her past self, and we merely came in on the second iteration or later? I suppose that could work.

If you think of the possibility of there being an infinite number of universes with an infinite amount of alternate possibilities then this loop makes sense. When you change something in the past the timeline splits into two universes,  one with the change and one without the change; for the the person who went back in time they would experience the consequences of whatever they changed. As for the time loop,  I believe it would have been caused by an alternate twilight somehow finding out about time travel (which is where the knowledge came from) and somehow accidently creating this infinite loop. It makes sense because if the original time traveller changes one thing in one universe, there's no saying the change they made might cause other twilights to change other things and create another reality, if that's the case then timelines would keep splintering off into alternate ones endlessly. Its also possible that the original twilight screwed up her timeline  so bad the only way to fix things was this infinite loop thus creating a universe where the original twilight retains the information and another where the change seemed like it has always been. there's also the possibility of her memory being changed along with the past so the only recollection she has of the present is the one caused by said change.

its a paradox. twilight does get the knowledge from herself, theres no "getting original knowledge" from anyone else here.

There are 2 way this could have happened
1 it's the uncontrollable loop meaning no end nor beginning ( I don't think it's this)
2 somting sommelier happened something that made her wory and it leading her to the spell then realized there was nothing to worry about and whent back in time to tell herself and like that the loop started

0:07 why the ticket master img?

I think it's called a Temporal Causality Loop if I remember right. It happened on Family Guy: Universe created Stewie, Stewie goes back to create Big Bang so it could create universe to create him & so on. It all starts with the "Alpha" universe like in that DC movie, War On Two Earths, I think that's what it's called. It's all part of the Multiverse Theory.

Time loops have no beginnings.  They're like a solved equation, it's already solved.

I have 2 theories about the time loop.  1. is the obligatory "MAGIC" reason, since a spell sent her back in time, the spell had some sort of paradox prevention ability. 2. She didn't go back in time or at least not back in time in her universe.  She went to an alternate universe where most things happened the same, this is only because we have no way of knowing that events for the past twilight (end of the episode) will happen exactly the same way as the Twilight we followed and the one future Twilight (beginning of episode).  The only thing we know is she will end up with a cut on her face, a scorched eye, a headband, and a bad mane cut.  When and how these events happened could theoretically been different in each loop.  We have know real way of knowing, but if they are different then is must be a slightly alternate reality.

If you want to know how the time cycle started that can all relate to the My Little Pony time string or it's just universal

I think that "It's about time" is like the story of perseus's grandfather, the king of Argos. His grandfather couldn't have sons. So, he went to the Oracle of Delphi. The Oracle said "you will never have sons. One day, your daughter Danaë will have a son. Her son will kill you and become the next king of Argos". The king tried to stop his fate by locking Danaë in his high security prison. One day, the god Zeus took pitty on her. Long story short, Zeus and Danaë had a son named perseus. Perseus grew up and killed his grandfather. The king's attemts to stop his fate only made it come true. The same happend to twilight. Exept a family friendly version. See the conection? So if I was to add another moral, it would be, dont trie to stop your fate.

0:06 the ticket master, shouldn't it be it's about time? Btw, I love the DPC! :)

Time is forever looping and technically never stops or starts like time itself
(Theoretically)

What about Pinkie Pie? She was perfect in the example of how much to worry about the future. Pinkie hides balls around the city in case of ball emergency. All the "follow my lead" panic cues from pinkie as well

Paradoxes have no start or end because time is like a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey ball of stuff.

I have no clue on that one XD if Twilight from the future came from the past originally like present day twilight did, then there really is no way she could know about the time spells, since she told herself... idk lol

One word: MAGIC.

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance... Its the illusion of knowledge..." -my dog talking to a mushroom

While I will admit that the Bootstrap Paradox is a complex, difficult concept, it is theoretically possible, albeit improbable. Imagine that a piece of cybernetic technology were to be discovered now. Scientists would work on reverse engineering the artifact of unknown origin, and it would bring about similar, if not the same, technology. Now, imagine this starts a war, during which, a time machine is developed. Through it, go a soldier to assassinate a target before he can be a threat, and an assassin with cybernetic technology. Throughout the event, the assassin is killed, and the cybernetic technology is discovered... The same piece that inspires it's eventual creation. This is a hard one to work around, but us bronies have dealt with the shenanigans of Pinkie; what's a little Bootstrap Paradox to the impossibility of Pinkie Pie! ;)

No, it works. Past twilight progresses through, thinks the Canterlot Archives are where the time spells would be, searches and finds them. The REAL problem is the reason for going back and telling herself not to worry.

I think this whole loop is related to dr.whooves he accidentally put twilight back in time with his tardis but after the loop went on twilight forgot about the tardis and blamed it on the spells in the canterlot library (this is probably a stupid answer but i challenge myself to answer each question)

The Lord of Chaos did it. They clearly consulted The Lord of Knowledge who lives somewhere and learned that this was a thing that needed to happen, as well as how to set it in motion. Or maybe The Lord of Order who lives somewhere was told this would be a thing and said to The Lord of Chaos "This is a thing that The Lord of Continuity(which is the balancing force between chaos and order in my personal theory) wants to happen." And The Lord of Chaos is all like "Fine, whatever." And does it.

DISCORD.

Discord could have something to do with the time loop. For instance, Discord could have pranked the original future twilight, causing her to go on that frenzy realising that she didn't have to worry, and you know the rest.

I think in the episode it's about time spike found the spell to go back in time and that's how twilight went back to earn her past self

I think it's just a loop going on forever; there's no beginning or end.

Circle has no beginning or end... As for the knowledge, well... Canterlot Archives probably WOULD be the next logical step after her own library, considering she comes from Canterlot . Plus that giant time-glass in there? It seems likely she was there earlier too. And the NO worry thing. The way Twily was SNEAKING in. Why? She's apparently entitled in as she pleases, considering that the guard she met just opened the door for her.

here's how it happened at first there was a bigger emergency and taillight failed to stop it then she goes back after getting knowledge for princess celestial the next twilight fixes that disaster but doesn't know she did thinking that future her was crazy she goes back in time to stop this from happening she fails to do that and then the loop starts

that's the problem with time travel if you use the time machine you will end up creating a incident timeline

the way to get rid of the loop is to remember it and as soon as she appeared she would put her hoove on her past self's mouth and tell her the news

I do have a theory for the loop. it's crazy. it's based of Twilight Sparkle is Clover the Clever.
Twilight was the one inventor of the time spell but here is the big twist. the Show is a loop it self.

Somewhere down the line Twilight discovers timetravel by accident. a misused spell Tosses her into the Far past. Being an alicorn she would be hated in that time era so hides her wings and got in with the royal unicorn family. meet starswirl and fix the spell after the events of the founding of equestria. Starswirl goes on with his life but with the added knowledge of the future past twilight but doesn't finish the spell because of his secret spell. and to remember him Celestia and luna put his books in a special place.

or since it's twilight she's the one who found it. can you say a paradox? 

Well maybe somepony (aka pinkie) secretly told future twilight where they were without letting us know. You should do a theory on who told her.

I think of time as a story. like ina book. Even if you haven't read something It's still going to happen. so in the story of time time was written out so that it is like a book, you can't change it.your decisions are written out. You still make the decision but time is written out that way.

I think that Princess Celestia told Twilight where the time spells were and Twilight decided to screw around with the spell. She went back in time to pull a prank on herself, starting the loop.

"people think time is a straight line but it's more of a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff"

So by Doctor Who logic Effect does not have to come after Cause. That might be how we previous it but that's not actually what happened. With how much the show references Doctor Who it's safe to assume they use their laws of Time Travel.


Other forms of media such as the 'Watchmen' comics suggest Time is all happening simultaneously so both the cause and the effect happen at exactly the same moment.

Then there is the good old paradox theory in every Science fiction show ever. Trying to stop the future is exactly what makes it happen because it is the future that effects the past. So basically we're all living the wrong way through time ^^'

Of course since we have no actual ideas about how time works let's just take what random explanations the entertainment industries come up with as fact Xp

It is my duty as a nerd (nods nods)

Maybe future twilight, found out where the thing was, in the middle of the cycle and then used the time spell and then warned her old self not to work.

it's like harry potter! harry always comes back to save himself! like twilight always tries to warn herself so its an everlasting time loop!

Warning, the following is not a real theory: Trollestia did it! That is how she knew Twilight would be there! She pulled Twilight aside, dressed her up, and told her to go into the past and say that stuff, knowing past Twilight would do everything on her own and that the first future Twilight wouldn't exist! Curse you Trollestia!

What if the last twilightception visited the first twilight that caused the chain of events? How? I don't know, one small variable changed?

Ok, so, if you think of time as only cause and effect, this would make no sense, but, if you think of it as a loop, it makes perfect sense. See, the origanal knowledge was never there, future twilight always told past twilight the information. This always happened in the time loop. Future twilight always knew, and always told past twilight. Therefore, it makes perfect sense.

Twilight had a dream, worried and SAW nothing to worry about. She eventually Found the Spell and started the Loop.

Maybe original Twilight freaked out originally when cereebus the black dog with 3 heads appeared she freaked out, and took extreme measures, and when she solved the solution, she went back in time and told her old self. Then this process repeated after on. My guess

That kind of loop is called an ontological paradox and violates the Law of Conservation of Information, creating information from nothing.

I dislike time travel it messes with my brain. I think about time travel so much that I even make my own theories about time travel in books and movies.

Here, let me put it this way. Time isn't cause to effect, it's not a linear sequence, it's like a big ball of wibbley-wobbley, timey-wimey stuff. (Doctor Who reference (duh))

All I can say is whoever even THINKS about discovering time travel is going to DIE. And trust me, no one wants to get murdered by ME. I've seen a lot. It will be painful. I just can't decide whether I want to do it corpse party style or pinkamena's cupcakes style.

Maybe twilight worried about the future before she came to herself but it was much different. Then she does research about where the "go back in time" device is and tells twilight not to worry and didn't get to finish then twilight started to worry and then the cycle starts over and over again. It's infinite.

I'm about to ask a question that will change your life forever.

Do you like waffles?

Well I think there are so many books at her home she might of looked it up there or someone told her that.

Or Present twilight should have realized after being informed by Future Twilight to not go back in time and worry Present Twilight so that the Future wouldn't occur the way it did... there you go.

If I know time travel, i would've tell you; but i don't know how time effects space.

Maybe princess celestia made a clone of twilight but it got out of hand and got hurt about 10 times and then went to explore the castle and found the spell and casted it to the other twilight sparkle :)

The first twlight problably found out her self when she tried to find them so when she did she decided to go to the past and told past twlight where they were and changed part of the FUTURE!!!!

Another thing is, why did the original future Twilight go to the past to warn her past self about a disaster if she didn't know it was going to happen?

YES!!!!! I thought I was the only one who knew that the time loop thing didn't make sense, what started future twilight to go in the past, cause future twilight going in the past to warn twilight is what caused that to happen,something had to have happened for future twilight to do that besides future twilight doing that, so I guess future twilight came out of nowhere for no reason, and then the loop thing starts, but nothing really started that loop, it doesn't make sense

One word:


PARADOX

0:07 that was "The Ticket Master" not "It's About Time", silly!

The resin it works is if you learn something from the future then you find out that was you then you can go back in time to tell yourself that, you see the stuff you find out came from you knowing.

maybe twilight was going to accidentally cause a dangerous accident from exhaustion because she kept working on her list.

Looping time moments like that are hard to process because they have already happened, making them past events, despite being from the future... Wait no. The thing is... Uh. They play out simultanenously in a way where it'd be like if we tried to look in two opposing directions. Our minds just dont handle this well. Infact i just got a headache from thinking about this. But if one were to intend to go back to the past, if they never met their past self during this plan, then that would be proof it did not work. Which ironically could convince someone into giving up, thus never going back in time. Knowing how your own life will play out really messes with the idea of free will and everything else. Since we react to what we know. So when we know how we'll react, we think we can change things. But since the reason we know these things is from our future self, it's kinda silly to act like they didn't do the same thing we did. Because they are us. But that too is hard to get. We see them as others, not as ourselves. But it makes sense that the same person in the same place at the same time would do the same thing. They make sense. Loops make sense... Sorta. Ow. Brain ache.

can you do a video on why the pony's names all sound like their cutie marks?=3

It's called a "bootstrap paradox".

Maybe just maybe out of episode twilight found the time spell and used it.

the loop goes on FOOOREVER!

Twilight used to live in Canterlot before she moved to Ponyville

the moral of the story is: don't worry 'bout the future, and don't eat too much ice cream :D lol

If You Learn Friendship,You Have Friendship

It's wibbly wobbily timey whiney.........stuff

Do you remember when pinkie came to twilight and she was writhing every thing down? Yah when she was looking thro that big telescope she said: I thought I saw something last night in the Horsehead Nebula. And we have our Horsehead Nebula in space. And so if she can see the Horsehead Nebula from equestria.. Doesn't that mean that equestria is in the same physical universe as us?

I think when twilight was recording every thing she found out about the star swirl the bearded wing

I've always asked myself the same thing! !!!

There's no beginning or end to the loop.

I'm pretty sure that Pinkie Pie found the time spell

Ok, i think that "future" twilight found the spells and used them, thus changing the future bacause "past" twilight found them before "future" twilight did. And i just got totally confused ^-^

There is no way for certain to tell what caused it for all we know it could have been discord or a real disaster was going to happen and the twilight of that time change the past so that it wouldn't happen and then the paradox started to keep it from happening

AAAAHHHHHH PARADOXES!!!!!! WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY STUFF EVERYWHERE!!!

1:04 #YOLOBLOMLMTAASOSBTDPWKEOBOIODAWCHEOBOITOD

Also, "We're in the past, so try not to do anything that might change the future...or, cause the future.  I don't really know how this works."
Some time loops are stable on their own, depending on which of the three major sci-fi strategies for tackling time travel is being used. Someone else explained the differences earlier in the comments: 1) all time travel is already part of the way things will happen, 2) time traveling puts you in new timelines that can have different events w/o causing paradoxes with the original, 3) moving around a in single timeline can change and accidentally destroy the entire time space continuum. Doctor Who has probably used all three multiple times, so I just don't question it anymore.

Time isn't a loop/line. It's just a bunch of wibbly wobbly timey wimey! The Doctor never lies!!

finally someone points out the problem with the time travel 

1:39 she is levetating the quill but her horn is not glowing

Maybe she gets princes Celestia's help on where the time travel device is...

I think that Twilight knew that when she was in Canterlot.

Oh and my theory is that: maybe another pony (or human) was experimenting with time traveling (back to the future, a very good movie my opinion) and then it happen that at the final series when marty had to be named Clint Eastwood and then go back to the future there was a street or something called Clint Eastwood, but if doc brown had never invented the time machine then wich will be the name? When mixing the names it would be named differently, in my opinion, when mixing names it also caused a mixing in the universe that not only alterated our universe but PONIES universe making that! BAM MIND BLOWN 360 NOSCOPE MLG DEWRITOS GET SHREKT¡

i think celestia told twilight where the spells were

Your right about the everlasting loop. There is no end no answer nothing...

Its the same as what were doing now, we go to the past, and that is how it starts! Kinda like Telephone!!!

I always overthink possibilities and end up not doing things I have a problem

You forgot that something DID happend! Tierk, escaped! So it was kinda right, but still!!!!!

it could be posible that futer twilight was a changlings spy that had everything planed out.

Know how twilight is Celestia's student? Celestia could have shown her this and then twilight decided to tell her past self not worry and waste her time, hence forth the loop, where the older twilight who worries when the first future twilight comes over and then the other two tries to find out what the future one tried to tell her, then when she realizes it, she goes back to the past to then warn her to not do the same, but does it anyways. Hence forth the loop is created! Only when she decides not to go back in time, will the loop end. This is Sydney "Somber Moon" Dean signing out. Stay swaggful everypony.

Maybe The Delorean's Flux Capacitor Malfunctioned

Maybe princess celestia told her or the guard? And I was thinking the same thing when I first watched it! !!

Silfur: Maybe all things self-appearing in timeloops are THE SPACE-TIME GODS' ARTIFACTS THAT ARE CREATED TO PROTECT THE EXISTANCE SPACE-TIME, but maybe not I duno...

There isnt realy anything i can say. Maybe Twilight paniked about something and found out about the time travel spell and changed the past. I dot know its just a thery

Future twilight knew where the time spells were cause she found them?

That's why timetravel doesn't make sense, no matter how many movies and TV-shows they make. That and also when you go back in time more than once, like going back in time to stop yourself who went back in time, from doing something to change something the "you", that belong in that past, do.

A Doctor Who fan music maker called President Romana have an amazing song about bootstrap paradoxes....😃
You should check out her YouTube channel...

There was NO original Twilight. It was probably someone who can read the future, like a invisible being? Now I'm getting confused.

This episode remind me of back to the future

2:09 I've questioned that all the video xD

Mlp is the only case were I've seen u time travel work properly, if you go back in time if you try to change any thing it already happened. Like if I tried to prevent something embarrassing happening to me my action would 1. Cause the event, or 2. Have no effect, idk those are just my thoughts

I think that it was Trollestia who started this playing a prank on Twilight

What do you think discord would look like human form in EG

Pinkie pie started the loop by giving twilight the spell

That's what I was thinking its one giant loop!!!

that's the problem with time travel

More episodes pls

With this series I just let auto play do its thing...

Duh a loop has a start. So twillight started it and continued it when she got woried the warned herself

It is a time-loop there is no beginning or end.

This is why I don't think about time travel

Could you do a cutie mark crusaders or sweetie belle one please there my three favorite fillys

to be honest. i may have the most boring explenation about how the original twilight got so freaked out. it was... destiny? 1 thing i have learned from doctor who is that if it has to happen. the universe lets ya. just like the doctor got stuck in the pandorica and there was no way out. however he got free. thanks to future doctor who freeed him. because he was the saviour of earth so he had to be free. so time and stuff let it.

Twilight could had gone before but forgot where it was

Aaaah! The light! Too bright!

trying to explain the start of the loop....
first explain the start of time but thats a very philosophical question

I know what happened!!






A wizard did it.

hold on second! the picture showed the ticket Master.

Maybe a chaotic figure cough DISCORD came transformed as twilight causing chaos and anarchy

it's time, no start no end boi

It might have been a change ling or discord trying to start chaos.

buckle up notion,i'm about to blow your mind again!!! (or maybe not,who knows?!?!) so,here's a theory i've had ever since twilight's kingdom;we know tirek escaped when cerbarus did,which means twilight was right to think that cerbarus escaping was the disaster.so my theory is that the future twilight who started the loop was the twilight from twilight's kingdom,in a an alternate universe where she doesn't defeat tirek,all because of one lesson she never got the chance to learn.it makes sense to me that one lesson changes everything,even if it has nothing to do with the problem of tirek taking over equestria,because that's what you call the butterfly effect.future twilight though,doesn't go to the past to teach past twilight a lesson,but to worn her from tirek and tell her to make sure cerbarus doesn't escape,and she tells her she's from next tuesday because that's around the time tirek started regaining his power,so that's the day that actually made a diffrence for twilight to know about,and she was all messed up because she had just been defeted by tirek,and she was wearing the black tight suit to hide her wings,because she didn't want to freak out past twilight more then she probably would anyway,and she didn't want to waste too much time explaining everything,or risk ruining the future by telling her something she doesn't need to know yet...so yeah that's my theory!!!!!!!!

Do the moral of "Hurricane Fluttershy"

Dear princess celestia

The internet scares me

You
Obviously
Love
Octavia

0:06 Wow. Please tell me I wasn't the only one who noticed

Well maybe before the circle began the future twilight got it from either one of her friends cough cough ( pinkie ) cough cough or celestia

maybe just maybe future twilight just went there and played a little prank on present twilight and then changed the future

The loop was created by Pinkie Pie. Don't question it.

Doctor whooves... I think we have a problem here!

Woah the loop tho

time keeps repeating it's self and goes on do 8t all started at the beginning of time

please do luna eclipsed.

ITS TIME TRAVLE nothing makes sence unless u know what happens

Im 14 and ive planned my retirement. Lol ive planned my whole lyfe but idk what im gunna do tomorrow. Well,thats not entirely true ill probly read all day as always.

Its about time you dpced this episode

I has a theory





It just happened!
Boom mind blown

Future twilight went to a time in the future/past to learn about the time travel spells to tell pass twilight. as much as i dislike twilight i made this up. so pls respond brony notion

Oh yeah,make a theory about,HOW MANY TWILIGHTS ARE IN TIME

Don't forget that twighlight used to live in Canterlot Castle!!!!!!

ITS MAGIC

How about A Bird in the hoof

Next time you analyze cutie marks....






MAKE SURE TO ANALYZE YOURS! (Cuz y not)

Can you do Lesson Zero?

2:22.  Could this happen in real life if time travel was possible?

The episode was entertaining but Twilight's stupidity in it annoyed me.

It's a paradox.

1 word, paradox

does this mean there are infinity twilights

Celestia told the original

I just liked the video about when pass twlilght became future twlilght

Silver the hedgehog told her that.

It is time and a time loop can't have a beginning or an end think about the water cycle it really doesn't have a true end or beginning so my theory My Time LINE THEORY is that it is time and time will never stop nor will the loop in other words TIME BE CRAZAY

The picture was the ticket master

Its called a paradox

It's magic

Great vid

This is just a theory... But I like to call it the... Multiplier theory! Mayyyybeeeeeee... 
THERE ARE JUST 2 TWILIGHTS AND 1 KNOWS ABOUT ZE TIME SPELLS lol. that is my actual theory cuz like, in eqg, there is one that hates friendship, and one that lives for friendship. Maybe it's like that...?

The reason is...




It's MLP deal with it xD

she read it will looking for a way to control her skegw but every thing works fine then she goes back in time

Can you please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please PLEASE!!!!!!! Make an episode explaining everything about the Changling queen. It confuses me of where she comes from and why she was made in the first place. Does she have an important role in the show like all the other villains cough sunset shimmer cough and, my theory behind the whole future twilight thing is that some one warned her about something so she flipped out realizes it's nothing and tells past twilight "don't worry about the thing" before the person tells past twilight the problem, AND THEN, the butterfly comes into play starting the loop forever. :) yes maybe... I dunno.....

pinkie found the spell

Princess celestial told the first ever twghilight were the spells was

IT'S A PAIDOX! how ever you spell them.

Didn't PInkie Pie show Twilght a spell that can let u go back in time for a moment? 

How come when you said it's about time the pic for ticket master was shown

The past is history... The future is a mistery... The now is a gift, that is why is called present... Don't waste your time living in the past or future, live in the beautiful now!

Snake Twilight, coincidence?
Nope.
ILLUMINATI

what's up with 73? why don't you use 87 instead?

Might have been obvious and i'm just an idiot but why did Future Twilight go back in time in the first place? o_o

One thing you could if add is why dose future twilight go to visit present twilight if she wasn't worrying about the future her visit just caused present twilight to worry and that could of been avoided if she didn't visit her and why dose twilight visit the other too the cycle is provoking to many worried twilight what do you think

0:06 you putted the: The Ticket Master Photo

Well the first Twilight the dog thing xscape and wanted to warn past adout it so she looked for the time spells so on and so forth

ummmm well the fact future twilight got info when she was past twilight and future twilight told here its an infinite loop there is no end if someone timetravels then meets their past self and warn them about somthing then they'll go back in time again and again you cannot change the future nomatter what and yes i am a nerd ((o)) see my nerd glasses

possible look at season 5 final for answer that had time travel

Did anyone see something flash on the screen at 0:9 or 0:10

if i want to hear a joke i'm being brainwash amd now i change my MIND! (that was a bad pun. SANS! TELL ME A PUN OR A JOKE JUST MAKE ME LAUGH!).

Pinkie Pie was the middle ground.

Star Swirl the bearded

Destiny is using a shield

HASBRO HAS BETRAYED US AGIAN

is bro hoof a reference to bro fist did I only notice dat

It’s about tickets.

0:18 i was just about to make that one, you idea stealer!

but wait, u never actually analysed where the original twilight got the info about the canterlot archives, u left that for everybody else to do it for you. what?! tell me tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!

twily looks like foxy

ZEIT IST RELATIV!

DO A DPC ON TOO MANY PINKIE PIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!please.....

i'm so confudled

Bootstraps paradox

i think pinkie told twilight

why dont do that aplejac's "day" of

ya used the ticket master one.

Her being a huge nerd I guess.............

How I look at time is, you think you can change the future, your wrong. The reason why is, your destiny in the future is to think you can change the future. For example, my destiny for the future would be putting this comment up. Do you see what I mean?

It is a paradox du.

Duh first twilight made the loop

...DOCTOR WHOOVES!!!!!

I mean seriously maybe Just maybe she (twilight) could have read something about it sometime before and well I don't know but whatever please read this 😄😅😭

not beaing mean but pinkie pie fout that scroll and gave it to twighlight who went back in time so on an so forth

2:44 plays illuminateh music

time travel hurts my brain 

Interesting. I suppose so.

your concept of time trvel is wrong
everything happens because everything happens

wait, I saw something on 0:09 I think

i dont know so guess and walk away (for now) TIME!!! maybe......... nope I give up I can't think of anything.... WELP No Sleep In Recive Will Future Myself! (What language was that???)

It was the spell

I only know one guy who could help us understand this situation G-MAN well actually he cant help us he is off filming life 3 half 60060606060 years in the future

Bootstrap theory

she made magic princess Celestia's sent Twilight to the moon and the hundred and 3rd episode and in the 130 episode the new episode episode is Glen Road Pony is going to be frozen my little pony and there's ice everywhere

you need to make new videos and do not keep your page private.

celestia

What's with your back leg???

#Bootstrapparadox

Paradoxes, what the fuck? 

HIII! do u guys want to ask princess Luna something? Just comment on this comment :) BYE!!!!

the doctor told here don don don!!!!!!!!

The reason is..................STAR SWIRL THE BEARED

#Robyn

I'm stumped too it's ok

That was your best vidio ever................WHAT THE HELL (i am gonna DIE)

i like waffles

Hi what if discord had a pet

0:06 have place the tiket master not its abaut time

Almost 1k likes!

Wach Doctor  who episode "blink"

cool

cool

Pinkie pie is deing life

Because she found there

Inseption!

its time travel nothing is diffrent by the way im 10 and your like 20 or 30

PARADOXXXXX

Check your future Visio

YOLO wooo

First, and I always forget that it's Wednesday

season 1

:)

YEAH I HATE THESE LOOPS!! THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!
Interstellar, mlp, Harry Potter, misfits...

its just mlp

Do I show up to where and back again

Lol

So I shouldn't Yolo across the street

Stab me that joke was terrible

WHY ARE THERE ONLY A FEW LIKES AND SO MENY VIEWS

wrong picture LOL

the reason is that it is probulay (auto correct) different dimensions and the loop continues but ends and the Twilight at the end of the loop and  comes to to the beginning and makes the loop making it repeat on and on agin(etc)

your question is invalid

What app sawtooth

1ST COMMENT AND nice video

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one name discord

Books

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Heheh

I don't know

25th comment! yes!!!!!!!!!!

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Nooooooooooooo i thougt i was first

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