This man was treated so poorly after his death its incredible

This man was treated so poorly after his death its incredible

@C Porter Odd to be coming back here after so long, I kind of forgot what happened. Just to mention, I didn't ask to be notified or anything.

Anyway, I skimmed through your video, or at least the first quarter of it. What I find interesting is that you most likely wouldn't have ever made this video if it wasn't for Internet Historian releasing his, and the people in the comments that are thanking you wouldn't even know about it if it wasn't for this debacle.

What I'm saying is, you didn't make a video 'purely' for historical purposes, you made one to discredit a certain YouTuber which, interestingly, you spent a whole seven minutes or so on. Was that needed?

Was any mention to the previous video or IH needed at all, couldn't you have simply made a video on the cave and the people involved purely on it's own?

@C Porter I’m not watching the whole video. You didn’t even bother editing it. You are so boring!!!!

@C Porter I’m not watching the whole video. You didn’t even bother editing it. You are so boring!!!!

@FlipFlopGod the ratios, views, and comments say otherwise. This comment shows me that you didn't even watch it yourself.

@FlipFlopGod the ratios, views, and comments say otherwise. This comment shows me that you didn't even watch it yourself.

@C Porter except I can guarantee you you didn’t get it accurate and you didn’t tell the truth. Nobody will watch and nobody will care

@C Porter except I can guarantee you you didn’t get it accurate and you didn’t tell the truth. Nobody will watch and nobody will care

@FlipFlopGod lol it is my own style. It's called accuracy and truth. Not that you were ever interested in either of those things to begin with. Granted, it IH's video hadn't come out and I was doing it on my own, I would've made it a lot more cinematic.. and also more importantly, gotten the story right instead of reinventing it like he did here.

@FlipFlopGod lol it is my own style. It's called accuracy and truth. Not that you were ever interested in either of those things to begin with. Granted, it IH's video hadn't come out and I was doing it on my own, I would've made it a lot more cinematic.. and also more importantly, gotten the story right instead of reinventing it like he did here.

@C Porter video was so boring. You should have edited and added your own Style. Your personality doesn’t cut it

@C Porter video was so boring. You should have edited and added your own Style. Your personality doesn’t cut it

@FlipFlopGod well it sucks to be you i guess

@FlipFlopGod well it sucks to be you i guess

@C Porter yeah I left you a dislike bud. Very boring video

@C Porter yeah I left you a dislike bud. Very boring video

@Ardius I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Ardius I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Erin Slabaugh Sorry if I'm replying to you twice, so may people in here wanna be notified this way, instead of more convinient ways. The video is out now.

@Erin Slabaugh Sorry if I'm replying to you twice, so may people in here wanna be notified this way, instead of more convinient ways. The video is out now.

@Gregory Pan 2 weeks later, still thinking about how you have the audacity to compare me to the yellow journalists like the one who literally made this video, and the ones that contributed to his death. But hey now you can see that I'm right, cause the videos' out now.

@Gregory Pan 2 weeks later, still thinking about how you have the audacity to compare me to the yellow journalists like the one who literally made this video, and the ones that contributed to his death. But hey now you can see that I'm right, cause the videos' out now.

@Down Above Well you dont have to wait anymore. It's out.

@Down Above Well you dont have to wait anymore. It's out.

@Maurice Steel I put out a video on it. Watch it. Took longer than I wanted to.

@Maurice Steel I put out a video on it. Watch it. Took longer than I wanted to.

@Nathaniel C. Polley I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Nathaniel C. Polley I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Super Beast I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Super Beast I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Lord J'zargo see my video on it. Sorry that it's 2 weeks late.

@Lord J'zargo see my video on it. Sorry that it's 2 weeks late.

@Pop Ioan the video is out, and it provides everything you could want. At least for now.

@Pop Ioan the video is out, and it provides everything you could want. At least for now.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch the video is out now.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch the video is out now.

@Testa cals I made a video about it. It talks about a shit ton of stuff he got wrong.

@Testa cals I made a video about it. It talks about a shit ton of stuff he got wrong.

@Mihail Milev I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@Mihail Milev I put out a video on it. Watch it.

@FlipFlopGod put out a video on it. Watch it.

@FlipFlopGod put out a video on it. Watch it.

@a child  put out a video on it. Watch it.

@a child  put out a video on it. Watch it.

@C Porter You're not wrong to call out inaccurate information to correct others, but your hostility isn't helping your case, as seen with how others reacted to your subsequent replies.

@C Porter You're not wrong to call out inaccurate information to correct others, but your hostility isn't helping your case, as seen with how others reacted to your subsequent replies.

@C Porter What a fucking ass clown you are.

You don't have any inaccuracies and you aren't making a video.

You're just a pathetic goon.

@C Porter What a fucking ass clown you are.

You don't have any inaccuracies and you aren't making a video.

You're just a pathetic goon.

@C Porter Yeah okay fair enough you've convinced me

@C Porter Yeah okay fair enough you've convinced me

@Milki_W6ze Well you don't strike me as one who cares much at all about History then, and why it should be told correctly rather than adding whatever fake details you want into it. Regardless tho, I could've handled some of the replies better. Revisit my OG Comment.

@Milki_W6ze Well you don't strike me as one who cares much at all about History then, and why it should be told correctly rather than adding whatever fake details you want into it. Regardless tho, I could've handled some of the replies better. Revisit my OG Comment.

@Bobblehob Whenever I'd try to tell people  about some of these, they'd automatically brush it off as "not important. the videos not supposed to be 100% accurate, get off the minor details" and shit to that extent which i'm getting mad at. Regardless tho, revisit my OG comment.

@Bobblehob Whenever I'd try to tell people  about some of these, they'd automatically brush it off as "not important. the videos not supposed to be 100% accurate, get off the minor details" and shit to that extent which i'm getting mad at. Regardless tho, revisit my OG comment.

@Lord J'zargo My "authority" doesn't really exist, but it's still better than IH's, since I've done the research over years time, many times going over my copy of Roger Brucker & Robert Murray, who are cavers and historians themselves, did an exhaustive research book, as well as reading other sources for their perspective and details. Revisit my OG comment again.

@Lord J'zargo My "authority" doesn't really exist, but it's still better than IH's, since I've done the research over years time, many times going over my copy of Roger Brucker & Robert Murray, who are cavers and historians themselves, did an exhaustive research book, as well as reading other sources for their perspective and details. Revisit my OG comment again.

@Pop Ioan Yeah looking back I coulda handled it better; revisit my OG comment in here.

@Pop Ioan Yeah looking back I coulda handled it better; revisit my OG comment in here.

@a child  Check the OG comment again, it's been edited.

@a child  Check the OG comment again, it's been edited.

@roger those are partially what got me into Floyd Collins to begin with.

@roger those are partially what got me into Floyd Collins to begin with.

@roger Honestly The musical from what I've seen is the most accurate fictional retelling of events to date just from the soundtrack, though the bits and scraps of modern productions I've seen left more to be desired sometimes. I'm not sure if I'd go see the musical if it were being shown in my area because of this. They did a superb job not just with how they get the atmosphere right for each scene, and went above and beyond with character creation, putting in the little details such as Nellie Collins's struggles with mental illness and having to be at an Asylum for months prior, getting correct how Skeets had one of the finest voices of everyone else there (he wanted to go into operatics later in life), the discovery of Crystal Cave, how Homer kept Floyd's spirit up/past the time with him in Sand Cave with riddles while they worked, and the list goes on. Some of the lines are kind of cringe like "Scoop the poop" said by the news reporters in Is That Remarkable? or "Aint not Sunday school Mama's Boy" by Floyd in How Glory Goes, but they still did a remarkable job keeping the characters in character with the actual people they portrayed. Not making out Miller to be some monopolistic capitalist reporter like IH does for instance.

I havent seen the apparent sole documentary by Crisp and Hall and I'd like to someday, but it's run time is about an hour's length, and the clips I've seen do a good job with the reeinactments, and it's clear that they base their work--at least in sections--off of Roger Brucker & Robert Murray's work, which has been hailed for a long time as the definiteve source for the Floyd Collins story, and it addresses all the misconceptions from years beforehand. For a large, correct retelling of events, the best chance for doing so in this day in age wouldn't be a movie, but a several part TV Limited Series, such as how they did with Stephen King's 11.22.63 some years back.

@C Porter P.S. Love your selection of classic records!

@C Porter P.S. Love your selection of classic records!

@C Porter Thanks for the reply! To me, it still seems like IH has done a good bit of research―especially in the way he lays out the timeline of events. Before this I'd only known the story from the off-Broadway musical (which probably takes even more artistic liberty than IH did in this video). Have you seen, or read/listened to that one? I'm genuinely curious to hear your thoughts.

Regardless, you're right that Floyd's story is often used for entertainment purposes in our lifetime. Perhaps the further a tragedy slips into history, the less we feel its emotional weight.

I can tell you're passionate about this subject, and have done more research (for a significantly longer time) than IH did. I will subscribe to your channel because I'm interested to see what else you have to say. I do hope you'll take a less combative stance in your response... A lot of people―myself included―were clearly intrigued by this video and want to learn more, particularly in a more realistic/informative context. If you want to spread awareness of Floyd's true story, this might be the best opportunity you've got... It'd be a shame to alienate Internet Historian (and his many many fans) just because you take issue with the style of his work.

@C Porter i subbed. looking forward to the points you make

@C Porter i subbed. looking forward to the points you make

@Erin Slabaugh Alright, fair enough on that last one.  Also for the other comments, even I can't find it now. But others have. Yeah call me an asshole on that one then. I'm just at my wits end with all this stuff, especially with all the "who cares" and "it's one small thing, stop crying about it" and related comments in mass that's caused me to be in such an uproar, since I have to deal with that cancer all the damned time, and I'm used to being with groups that entirely reject what I'm saying even when I do show my damning proof. Some point later I will edit these points into one of my first comments in this thread, at the top.

Everything listed here will be vastly expanded upon in more detail in my video response, and has the least detail accurately possible here. But everything here is backed by official sources by authors Roger Brucker & Robert Murray who did exhaustive studies and expeditions in the 70s, and as well as more contemporary sources.

1. Sand Cave is an entirely different, smaller, and far away cave from Floyd's main cave, Crystal Cave, discovered in 1917 (also said as "Great Crystal Cave" and "Floyd Collins Crystal Cave" post death. 1:04:20 has a sign for it which IH doesn't address at all and instead implies that this was a renaming of Sand Cave. This cave system was massive, and  beautiful. But it had little success apart from archeologically, due to the "Cave Wars". It was his life and joy, which unfortunately he had to put on the market to sell in 1924. Floyd's whole reason to find Sand Cave, which wasn't on his property at all but on the property of Bee Doyle who he had a 50/50 proft partnership with to dig out Sand Cave, hopefully to find a closer entrance to Mammoth Cave itself  to work with. (he had a theory that all the caves connected).

2. IH's description of Floyd's origin not only doesn't mention any of this deliberately states that this was All Sand Cave, but doesn't get even the topography of Sand Cave correct. The Chute, Turnaround Room, Squeeze, etc are very out of order. Floyd wasn't trapped flat on the ground like an L actually at a 45 degree angle. His rescue attempts are vastly over simplified as "everyone lost their nerve and abandoned the food & supplies", when dozens legitimately tried and actually helped, just not able to reach Floyd. Including Marshall Collins who did a lot in this, but isn't even mentioned at all.

3. Homer wasn't in Louisville when he heard about Floyd, but at a Gas Station roughly 30 minutes away from Sand Cave, and it didn't take 10 hours for him to get there at all but 30 min. idk where tf he got that idea from, likely made it up, same for the following: Skeets MIller had no knowledge of Floyd himself when he was sent from Louisville to Sand Cave, only that there was conflicting reports, and he was originally to be sent with a rescue team.

4. Floyd was NEVER reburied in Sand Cave, the glass coffin was in Crystal Cave, which again, IH completely ignores it's existence and pretends like Sand Cave is the only one. Not to mention how he excludes any of Floyd's legacy and actual achievements that were proven after the fact in the 40s - Present, such as basically being the reason that Mammoth Cave National Park exists today, and in the complete state it's in among tons of others.

If I don't explain it like this, then many will--as they have already done--acted like none of this actually matters and I'm just bitching about nothing but tiny things.

@Mihail Milev So many comments of yours at once, because the way youtube decides to display and probably does the same on your POV for mine. But I mean changing your mind about Intenet Historian not wanting to misrepresent what's stated.

@Mihail Milev So many comments of yours at once, because the way youtube decides to display and probably does the same on your POV for mine. But I mean changing your mind about Intenet Historian not wanting to misrepresent what's stated.

@C Porter But I haven't found you talking about specifics anywhere else either! I'm not saying I refuse to accept that he's probably screwed some things up! I think it's more than likely!

I just think it's incredibly irritating that you want to look down your nose at everyone for automatically taking a youtuber at his word and not backing up his claims, and then turn around and judge us for not automatically taking you at your word while you refuse to back up your claims.

I'm not asking for essay here dude, I'm asking for literally just one bullet point. You can copy-paste it from another of those comments you've supposedly made, I won't mind.

... But right now you've spent more time in the comments bitching that you don't have time to explain everything, than you have spent even attempting to explain anything.

@C Porter But I haven't found you talking about specifics anywhere else either! I'm not saying I refuse to accept that he's probably screwed some things up! I think it's more than likely!

I just think it's incredibly irritating that you want to look down your nose at everyone for automatically taking a youtuber at his word and not backing up his claims, *and then turn around and judge us for not automatically taking you at your word while you refuse to back up your claims.*

I'm not asking for essay here dude, I'm asking for literally just *one* bullet point. You can copy-paste it from another of those comments you've supposedly made, I won't mind.

... But right now you've spent more time in the comments bitching that you don't have time to explain everything, than you have spent even attempting to explain anything.

@Erin SlabaughI'm doing this same stuff in several other top comments in threads just like this, I'll copy and past it here, but seriously if you just looked for yourself, you'd of found it by now, like others have. I don't have every waking moment to fucking talk to everyone about this, rather spending that time making my video instead. But what use will it do though, because nearly everyone automatically brushes these absolutely major things wrong as somehow unimportant because of their own lack of understanding of how history works, and I'm sure you will too. Stand by.

@C Porter Ohhh my god how could you possibly miss my point this hard.

I was asking you to reply HERE, IN THIS COMMENT CHAIN about two errors. Not in the video. HERE.

Because the fact that you haven't pointed out anything specifically and have rather just announced that he's wrong doesn't inspire confidence that your documentary will be any good.

@C Porter Ohhh my god how could you possibly miss my point this hard.

I was asking you to reply HERE, IN THIS COMMENT CHAIN about two errors. Not in the video. HERE.

Because *the fact that you haven't pointed out anything specifically* and have rather just *announced that he's wrong* doesn't inspire confidence that your documentary will be any good.

@C Porter I did not get a vibe of him genuinely insulting Floyd during this video if I'm honest, he seems empathetic and while yes, their is some off-beat humor, the tragedy of things still is important to the video.

@C Porter I did not get a vibe of him genuinely insulting Floyd during this video if I'm honest, he seems empathetic and while yes, their is some off-beat humor, the tragedy of things still is important to the video.

@Down Above Or y'know you could like just look into it for yourself if you find yourself too impatient to wait a little bit for a video to come out? Try Roger Brucker & Robert Murray with their exhaustive research into the event which includes actual interviews with the people who were there and even their own expeditions into Sand Cave again, which is free for anyone of you to look at on Internet Archive. Oh wait! You could also look into the ONLY source that IH mentions; Alan E. Hunter's 3 part column in the Weekly View of Indianapolis, Indiana which also directly conflicts with IH's narrative? No? too afraid to look into it for yourself without someone spoon-feeding you every bite? Then no one can help you Buddy.

@Maurice Steel Deal, my real weakness is trying to get to people who sometimes will never be convinced even with all the evidence and logic in the world.

@Maurice Steel Deal, my real weakness is trying to get to people who sometimes will never be convinced even with all the evidence and logic in the world.

@Mihail Milev honestly a lot of this that you're seeing right now is me venting more at other people who aren't even trying to understand and rather just want to view me as a hater, as well as because IH isn't even the first to do something like this, but in a long line of people disrespecting the man in the way they tell his story. IH , the person that I've grown to respect over the years for accuracy and storytelling (which I've now started to severely question after seeing this), is undoubtedly the most influential person to talk about it online to date, and has already caused the most damage.

@C Porter bro. U have such a problem with Internet Historian and you listen to EmpLemon........    ?

Boi if u didn't know I've got some catastrophic news for you...........

@C Porter bro. U have such a problem with Internet Historian and you listen to EmpLemon........    ?

Boi if u didn't know I've got some catastrophic news for you...........

@Mihail Milev in many cases yes it can be interesting, but we aren't talking about those cases. We are talking about entire deception which he does here. At no point anywhere does he try to make it known that something he says as fact isn't true. Not in the video, not in comments, not in the description either. Believe it or not, but if this was for some other more well-known tragedy or incident, or even topic that he fucks up this badly on, he would have been ripped to shreds by probably several other established uploaders in their community. But Floyd is a much more obscure subject, and in the four years that I've been looking, I've never found any community for him anywhere, just the odd person or two that you can rarely discuss with in comments about.

@C Porter I'm intrested to see it tho tbh I might suggest u not be as rude and personally aggressive towards IH himself, because although it might get u attention at the start it might ruin it in the long run. If u go with the more nice but still outstanding route u might actually have people want to listen and if u happen to have high production quality, maybe even a response from IH. If u are civil enough and not being to rude and calling people names and excessively speculating about their intentions, ect....

@C Porter right. Well, I don't think he presents this as neccesarily accurate, but definitely doesn't explicitly state it as inaccurate either. Though uk ut would ruin part of the immersion. Maybe after the intro or something. But the ethics of temporary deception as an art/experience technique is a very interesting conversation I think to be had indeed

@C Porter right. Well, I don't think he presents this as neccesarily accurate, but definitely doesn't explicitly state it as inaccurate either. Though uk ut would ruin part of the immersion. Maybe after the intro or something. But the ethics of temporary deception as an art/experience technique is a very interesting conversation I think to be had indeed

@Mihail Milev And in those novels and movies, they have tell you their fictional, legally in many cases too. IH does not say this anywhere, and presents everything as cold hard fact, when it clearly isn't to anyone who looks into this stuff at all.

@Mihail Milev And in those novels and movies, they have tell you their fictional, legally in many cases too. IH does not say this anywhere, and presents everything as cold hard fact, when it clearly isn't to anyone who looks into this stuff at all.

@Mihail Milev If you watch my video when it comes out, I'm sure you'll change your mind on that.

@Mihail Milev If you watch my video when it comes out, I'm sure you'll change your mind on that.

@roger Fine, quickly yes. There will be expansion upon everything mentioned here in the video, and backed up by actual sources instead of next to nothing that IH lists. But I haven't done so this far because it's usually hopeless and as you can see in other comment sections people are just saying "who cares" regardless.

1. Floyd Collins got into the cave wars because, apart from being a massively respected, expert caver in the area whose accomplishments before 1925 are still being felt today in KY (along with his whole family being deeply involved in the caving industry) through his 1917 discovery of Crystal Cave ("Great Crystal Cave", "Floyd Collins Crystal Cave", other names) which is absolutely massive in scale, and exploration & operation became his pride and joy, which for various reasons he was basically forced to part from in 1924 to sell it.

2. Sand Cave, which was never named by him, was owned by farmer Bee Doyle on HIS farm property, not the Collins' family at all. Floyd and Bee had an agreement that any profits from a cave he found on there would be split 50/50 with him in late 1924-early '25. His reason for finding a new cave was to get a CLOSER entrance to Mammoth Cave itself so he could get ahead of the competition geographically.

3. The entire reason that "Skeets" Miller got to Floyd that IH tells is entirely false beyond all bounds, and reads as shittily as the yellow journalism about Skeets printed around Feb 17th would invent, or the fictional 1951 movie based on Floyd called "Ace In The Hole". The Courier-Journal had heard some buzz about Floyd, but this is Cave War territories, so was skeptical at the start, but once they realized all the bad press starting around it (not even 4 days in yet), they sent Miller to check it out, wanting to send a team to help out too, but was denied one. He had also caved once before, and also undressed appropriately for a cave.

4. IH makes it all about his death, yet fails to even do a correct job there. Saying that Dr. Harry Thomas bought Sand Cave, and put his body back in the cave but with a glass coffin. This was obviously in actuality Crystal Cave, and notice how IH puts a picture of advertising for Floyd Collins Crystal Cave in his video at 1:04:20 . That clause mentioned? Lee never told Homer about it. And Thomas framed it as "Floyd would have wanted to be burred in his beloved cave" as a sign of respect.

I haven't even talked about other things such as how the Yellow Journalism was a problem from the start and never ended, or how Floyd's contributions to caving as a whole BASICALLY lead to the creation Mammoth Cave National Park, and the nature of caving as a whole, the expiditions back to Sand Cave in the 70s, the nationally famous hit song about him, or all the other countless crucially significant things just didn't mention which underplay greatly how important he and his legacy is.

@C Porter u know the way I know this is also because it's practically how many ideologies and religion in general works. Something is so emotionally moving and profound and gives you a sense of identity and purpose and strength in your life and seems to perfectly explain everything around you in a way that inspires you and helps you to become a better person, that they assume it must be right or can't bring themselves to think that it can still be absolutely completely wrong.

@Gregory Pan I agree mostly with everything you said except that sometimes, unfortunately, the people who mean the best and put in the most effort and love, can be the wrong ones. While the annoying lazy ones are right. Such is, in a way, the social political situation in America and broader internet rn for example.

@Gregory Pan I agree mostly with everything you said except that sometimes, unfortunately, the people who mean the best and put in the most effort and love, can be the wrong ones. While the annoying lazy ones are right. Such is, in a way, the social political situation in America and broader internet rn for example.

@Erin Slabaugh There will be plenty more than two. I haven't counted everything specifically, but I estimate theres at least 15 major things he got entirely wrong, but close to 30 still relevant points will be made.

@Erin Slabaugh There will be plenty more than two. I haven't counted everything specifically, but I estimate theres at least 15 major things he got entirely wrong, but close to 30 still relevant points will be made.

@Johnny Cash bro yeah don't go into comments on videos like this lol. Speaking from experience. And same bro

@Johnny Cash bro yeah don't go into comments on videos like this lol. Speaking from experience. And same bro

@C Porter because it's an entertaining and immersive story bro. People have written whole novels that are fictional

@C Porter because it's an entertaining and immersive story bro. People have written whole novels that are fictional

@C Porter ok well idk abt that point it's kinda debatable. If u are clear about your intentions and the purpose of your media then I think u could put out whatever you want (as long as it's safe and respectful of people's privacy, ect). As long as you're clear about what it's supposed to be. On the other hand there is basically what you're referring to when people pretend to be ironic or jokesters but knowing full well almost everyone watching is actually believing unironically. And it's not like on the audience side problem, but it's specifically cultivated to get that effect. But I'm more thinking of like political pundits and the like. I don't Inrernet Historian is doing that.

@Woad Blue yeah exactly that too. I forgot abt that, but in the very beginning I was like, why would you squeeze yourself in there at that point just dig it out from the top or drill/mine it out from the side of the turnaround room

@Woad Blue yeah exactly that too. I forgot abt that, but in the very beginning I was like, why would you squeeze yourself in there at that point just dig it out from the top or drill/mine it out from the side of the turnaround room

@Gregory Pan See this is what yours, and everybody elses problem is: you aren't even trying to listen! You automatically make me out to be just some hypocritical hater who dislikes the videos purely for the jokes made and got a tiny detail wrong else. This isn't the only comment section I'm responding to people in, or even the only video. But in this thread I've said multiple times now I'm working on a video as we speak that is going to list these inaccuracies, because there are too many to mention here. I even state it in a comment I make saying that I'm not going to be commenting much at all anymore because I'M the one whos actually taking the effort to show this as accurately as possible, unlike him, hell YOU even could look into Floyd Collins yourself from the singular source he lists and you will several of the things that I'm going to mention, but no you'd rather just vilify me in your own hypocrisy and just blindly beleive that I'm talking about a couple of tiny facts, when in reality these are everything down to Floyd's motives, the true reasons of his entrapment, Skeets Miller's true reasoning for being there, Floyd's ACTUAL death and disturbances which also falsely told here, and, above all else, Floyd's Legacy, which Internet Historian doesn't even try to say anything about.

I already listed one gigantic plothole and outright bastardization that IH completely ignored and lied about in previous comments, why don't you look at that one? You folks vehemently defend his work by talking about how long it takes to make a video such as this, as if that's an excuse that makes him innocent, yet can't even be bothered to have a full week's patience for me, the one making the response video that one of you---if you actually cared about Floyd or justice for him at all--should already be doing.

"The reason why many people in the comments are balking at the actions of the humans during the series of events surrounding Floyd's death, is not because of the publicity of it, but rather the incentivized greed and disrespect to the man himself." How can you actually unironically say this when he's doing the exact same thing? IH is giving just as much disrespect in his overdramatization and inexcusable falsehoods (on the best of days) if not pure lies in it for his gain, not ours. The shear irony of it too is, if he would have left everything intact, the story would be twice as impactful and harrowing, and he wouldn't even have to add 10 more minutes onto the OG runtime. Not to mention all the lack of true context makes Floyd out to be an idiot whether intentionally or unintentionally, based on how many replies try to actually justify all this inaccuracy because "he chose to climb into a cave".

"It is the people who claimed that it was a hoax and fake that are really messed up, and ironically you happen to be quite similar to one of those people." I have in no way, shape or form, misconstrued or lied about anything I've said, and the fact that you people keep saying I am shows ever so fucking clearly that you wont even look into it for yourself and just want to make me out to be the bad guy for calling out someone whos widely respected, and because i'm not immediately following up with a video hastily put together that could likely do more damage than not.

"But more importantly, your original statement, even if we skip over the "key details wrong" part, is self-serving, inaccurate, and contemptible." Yeah yet you cant actually back that up without trying to condemn me for realizing that Humor over History is shitty, and boiling down my whole argument to being a couple tiny pieces of info that you think don't affect anything. Again, an assumption you make without even hearing them. By the way, I'm not apposed to Humor and History together, but History always needs to take the forefront if you're going to do something designed to be educational such as this. The Dollop's (a comedy-history podcast) episode on Floyd of the same runtime does a WAY better job than IH does here, in just about the same run time.

Now if you're done with your self-righteous rant about how I'm the asshole for even trying in the first place and justifiably outraged at him, you can either leave the conversation, or wait for the video like everyone else will. I honestly don't give a fuck if it gets 6 views or 600 views. I don't do this shit for fame or fortune; someone needs to set the record straight, and it honestly appears that i'm the only one trying. Likely because most other people who care don't watch youtube that much or beleive it's hopeless against someone as big as Internet Historian.

@Mihail Milev they gotta recruit to keep their numbers up

@Mihail Milev they gotta recruit to keep their numbers up

@C Porter As other comments have pointed out, you still haven't made even a single point towards the so called "inaccuracies" of the video. It's pointless and hypocritical to make fun of people for believing a content creator at face value when you expect them to do the same for your own content.
But more importantly, your original statement, even if we skip over the "key details wrong" part, is self-serving, inaccurate, and contemptible. People are getting hung up on your yet-to-be-seen evidence, but the real messed-up thing here is your interpretation of this video as "disrespectful" and "playing up his death as a joke". History is and always has been a narrative shaped by both facts and perspectives. There's no such thing as a 100% accurate representation of history, even in the current age the timing and way things are filmed can lead to misinterpretations of the events that occur, much less before that all existed and all we can rely on is newspapers, personal accounts, and word of mouth. IH clearly used several sources in this video, he even lists them as he talks about the information derived.
How is this video in any way disrespectful? Yes, the events of the story are dramatized, and there is some comedy, but how is that inherently disrespectful? The reason why many people in the comments are balking at the actions of the humans during the series of events surrounding Floyd's death, is not because of the publicity of it, but rather the incentivized greed and disrespect to the man himself. If anything, the publicity and journalism of the event is the hero of the story, as it is directly responsible for allowing Floyd's body to be recovered at all, and for a reasonable rescue attempt to be made. It is the people who claimed that it was a hoax and fake that are really messed up, and ironically you happen to be quite similar to one of those people.
IH, while perhaps dramatizing the events of the story (and he clearly indicates the parts that he dramatizes so it's not even like he's being deceptive), paints an accurate and respectful picture of all the heroes involved in the story, and the somberness surrounding the event.
You, on the other hand, are the one being sensationalist and drying to rile people's emotions up without and basis of evidence or respecting IH or his viewers at all.

At this point, I doubt you are going to reply to this or any of the previous comments the only comments you are replying to are the one's who are making dumb points or slanders that are easy to rebut. There are plenty of reasonable people who have asked for evidence and admonished you for your dismissive and derogative tone towards all the obviously insane work that went into making this video, and you have basically ignored most of it.

Even if IH got a few facts wrong, even if you had the evidence to point out some misrepresentation in his narrative (which you don't, so far), your approach towards this matter is unacceptable and far more disrespectful to the situation than IH missing a few facts would be (which is still theoretical and if we're honest, pretty unlikely). I'd rather believe someone who clearly puts in the time and effort to make a video like this than someone who rudely complains without making any real effort to back up his claims.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch You're absolutely correct. Just to let you know, the statement "Every single person has and always will see these videos as purely comedic stories" is just wrong, clean slate. Cheers!

@Odin whoknowstoomuch You're absolutely correct. Just to let you know, the statement "Every single person has and always will see these videos as purely comedic stories" is just wrong, clean slate. Cheers!

@C Porter Why not just copy and paste your comments on here? Would make it easier than going through more than 24,000 comments.

@C Porter Why not just copy and paste your comments on here? Would make it easier than going through more than 24,000 comments.

@Gregory L. LeVitre  who’s gone. Lmao. Literally never coming back

@Gregory L. LeVitre  who’s gone. Lmao. Literally never coming back

@FlipFlopGod Now you just sound like a rick and morty fan. I don't agree with C Porter but your responses are so cringe that I almost recoiled

@FlipFlopGod Now you just sound like a rick and morty fan. I don't agree with C Porter but your responses are so cringe that I almost recoiled

@C Porter "The IH is wrong, he's a horrible liar, no I won't tell you what he got wrong, look for my comments in other videos or wait till I finish my own video" Yeah okay buddy.

@C Porter "The IH is wrong, he's a horrible liar, no I won't tell you what he got wrong, look for my comments in other videos or wait till I finish my own video" Yeah okay buddy.

@C Porter i am hoping this is an "This performance of Rush E is kinda mediocre" and you come up with a fantastic documentary that blows this one out of the water. i recommend you stop answering his fans and just work on your response, i am anxiously waiting for it. arguing with fans is fruitless and will only hinder your own credibility and waste your time and patience.

@C Porter i am hoping this is an "This performance of Rush E is kinda mediocre" and you come up with a fantastic documentary that blows this one out of the water. i recommend you stop answering his fans and just work on your response, i am anxiously waiting for it. arguing with fans is fruitless and will only hinder your own credibility and waste your time and patience.

What happened after he died is even more outrageous than him getting stuck in the cave. People are fucked.<br>Crazy how Floyd's dream of making the cave an attraction came true, just not his dead body being the attraction.

What happened after he died is even more outrageous than him getting stuck in the cave. People are fucked.
Crazy how Floyd's dream of making the cave an attraction came true, just not his dead body being the attraction.

@C Porter Could you please give examples of the inaccuracies?

That would solve quite a bit of back and forth.

@C Porter Could you please give examples of the inaccuracies?

That would solve quite a bit of back and forth.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch "I obviously can't speak for everybody". He says, after speaking for "every person who has watched this video". Which is in the millions now. lmao

@Odin whoknowstoomuch "I obviously can't speak for everybody". He says, after speaking for "every person who has watched this video". Which is in the millions now. lmao

@C Porter Bro you could literally just make bullet point examples of what inaccuracies you're talking about. Instead you're trying to plug your own channel and video. Not a good look. And if you needed to repeat them over the course of this entire comment section you could copy and past said points. Are you so much of a historian that you forgot what modern tech is capable of?

@C Porter Bro you could literally just make bullet point examples of what inaccuracies you're talking about. Instead you're trying to plug your own channel and video. Not a good look. And if you needed to repeat them over the course of this entire comment section you could copy and past said points. Are you so much of a historian that you forgot what modern tech is capable of?

@C Porter I don't think anyone comes here for actual history and I'm sure that no one here cares about Floyd on a personal level enough to get offended about it. imo u seem like the guy who spends 90% of their free time on twitter looking for something to pretend to care about and get mad over when it means absolutely nothing to any person who is grounded in reality. Just my take

@C Porter Sounds like you need a excavation crew to extract the stick out of your personal cave.

@C Porter Sounds like you need a excavation crew to extract the stick out of your personal cave.

@C Porter ok so im just supposed to assume you're an expert and this is wrong, just because?

@C Porter ok so im just supposed to assume you're an expert and this is wrong, just because?

@C Porter JUST SAY what mistakes he made instead of pussy footing around

@C Porter JUST SAY what mistakes he made instead of pussy footing around

@FlipFlopGod no it's not, it's a man's life.

@FlipFlopGod no it's not, it's a man's life.

@C Porter why don't you give an example of something incorrect about this version of the story, instead of getting pissed off about it and getting upset when other people don't believe you... one good example of something that is incorrect about this story as it is told here. There are obviously people here who want to know if the video is inaccurate.

@C Porter why don't you give an example of something incorrect about this version of the story, instead of getting pissed off about it and getting upset when other people don't believe you... one good example of something that is incorrect about this story as it is told here. There are obviously people here who want to know if the video is inaccurate.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Jesus you are absolutely dense and argue like a schizo. You lean on such broad and trash points in your argument. C Porter is highly more believable than you and in fact how would you get trolling from his comment when you don't even know what trolling is. Ffs mate the shi you said is so incompetent it would be easy to think you're trolling.

You don't even know what a fact is

@C Porter Well what did he get wrong and what's your authority on the topic

@C Porter Well what did he get wrong and what's your authority on the topic

@C Porter You can not expect people to read your other comments or watch a hypothetical future video of yours to prove a point, lmao. That's a bit much to ask of others while providing no argument for your claims in these comments. If you have something to say, do it here, nobody's got time to look in other places.

@C Porter You can not expect people to read your other comments or watch a hypothetical future video of yours to prove a point, lmao. That's a bit much to ask of others while providing no argument for your claims in these comments. If you have something to say, do it here, nobody's got time to look in other places.

SPOILERS MAAAN I WAS HALF WAY THROUGH THE VIDEO AND GENUENLY HOPING HE MADE IT OUT T.T

SPOILERS MAAAN I WAS HALF WAY THROUGH THE VIDEO AND GENUENLY HOPING HE MADE IT OUT T.T

@C Porter Damn bruv was this guy your dad? Calm the fuck down

@C Porter Damn bruv was this guy your dad? Calm the fuck down

@Eccomi i was just confused on what they meant by the misinformation in the video and wanted them to elaborate on that. Otherwise i dont really care for whatever is going on here

@Eccomi i was just confused on what they meant by the misinformation in the video and wanted them to elaborate on that. Otherwise i dont really care for whatever is going on here

@Buzlu Kofti you'll have to execuse me if my reply sounds weird and off subject, I'm getting a little lost with all these comments haha. Anyway, you're precisely right, to the interested like C Porter, this may come out as completely wrong and perhaps possibly insulting but their study and interpretation of the story may also be wrong, until we know exactly what happened, as if we were there, nothing anyone says can be taken as the hard truth, no matter how much effort they put into it

@C Porter People are going to throw a fit either way if you remain in discussion in these comments. At this point, I recommend taking your time to write your response video and turning off notifications until then. I intend to watch your response video when it releases.

@C Porter People are going to throw a fit either way if you remain in discussion in these comments. At this point, I recommend taking your time to write your response video and turning off notifications until then. I intend to watch your response video when it releases.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Which, majority of the people who watch these videos don't do since, y'know, lack of interest. <br>Doesn't change the fact that many people believe whatever is shown and told to be the absolute truth in the video. Internet Historian takes up months of his time researching, so it isn't an unorthodox thing to think that he could find these facts to actually be wrong while he is collecting evidence. If it's so easy to debunk some dubious facts he's shown in the video, for example, finding a few more videos that clash with this one (which is what you said could be done to understand if this video is factual or not), then it's not the weirdest thing to think that he could find the actual truth and handle it better while preparing an hour-long video.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Which, majority of the people who watch these videos don't do since, y'know, lack of interest.
Doesn't change the fact that many people believe whatever is shown and told to be the absolute truth in the video. Internet Historian takes up months of his time researching, so it isn't an unorthodox thing to think that he could find these facts to actually be wrong while he is collecting evidence. If it's so easy to debunk some dubious facts he's shown in the video, for example, finding a few more videos that clash with this one (which is what you said could be done to understand if this video is factual or not), then it's not the weirdest thing to think that he could find the actual truth and handle it better while preparing an hour-long video.

@Erin Slabaugh It's the cruel reality haha. Nothing anybody says can be taken at heart, information will always be questionable and uncertain unless we see it with our own eyes

@Erin Slabaugh It's the cruel reality haha. Nothing anybody says can be taken at heart, information will always be questionable and uncertain unless we see it with our own eyes

@Odin whoknowstoomuch See but you're ALSO just taking ANOTHER dude at his word instead of doing your own research, lol

@Odin whoknowstoomuch See but you're ALSO just taking ANOTHER dude at his word instead of doing your own research, lol

@C Porter Please do as Erin asked, and give us just a couple examples of these inaccuracies

@C Porter Please do as Erin asked, and give us just a couple examples of these inaccuracies

@Buzlu Kofti facts are just something someone tells you is true based on what they studied. Yes he looks up all these events himself and goes into detail for his videos, but you can't look at it and believe "This is 100% true" until you just look elsewhere and realise that, actually there's a few different sides to the story and he's not always right, hence why sometimes he updates his information in new posts.

Let me put it like this, you watch the Concordia video, you believe what he says, you want to look up more about it, you realise that in some areas he was wrong with his information. Basically you don't stop at his videos and only ever believe them, because sometimes he could miss something or mess up somewhere, you do some information yourself and come to your own conclusions

@Rorax Well, according to C Porter, his historic recounts are entirely wrong.

You can certainly watch his videos and hear the story how he sets it out, but if you want to seriously study the event or person, it's best to just look elsewhere.

Like I said, his videos aren't meant to be a factual documentary and a study into the events and persons, it's just entertainment. Yes he still looks up how everything happened but you can't watch his videos and think "Well this guy is clearly 100% correct in everything he says and therefore I see no reason to use any other means of research than watching his videos"

@Odin whoknowstoomuch You know, I have no idea what the wrongs are in this video but your point of view is flawed.
This video is an hour and ten minutes long. He gets serious and comedic at times, but it is an attempt to explain history non the less.
Many people who don't know anything about this occasion being told in the video, including me, will take these videos as facts. It doesn't matter that they're comedic, because the purpose of these is still informing people of an event that happened.
The immediate response to "nobody takes these seriously and as a fact" would be "The Cost of Concordia" video. It has moments of telling an actual fact without an ounce of comedy in it, because it is, at last, a tragedy. Many people only heard about it through that video, and thus, took it as a fact after watching the video because many people, which btw, I think you missed this part, don't have the patience or interest in making their own research after a light hearted but 40 minute retelling of a piece of history. So, many people do in fact, take it as a fact.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch You know, I have no idea what the wrongs are in this video but your point of view is flawed.
This video is an hour and ten minutes long. He gets serious and comedic at times, but it is an attempt to explain history non the less.
Many people who don't know anything about this occasion being told in the video, including me, will take these videos as facts. It doesn't matter that they're comedic, because the purpose of these is still informing people of an event that happened.
The immediate response to "nobody takes these seriously and as a fact" would be "The Cost of Concordia" video. It has moments of telling an actual fact without an ounce of comedy in it, because it is, at last, a tragedy. Many people only heard about it through that video, and thus, took it as a fact after watching the video because many people, which btw, I think you missed this part, don't have the patience or interest in making their own research after a light hearted but 40 minute retelling of a piece of history. So, many people *do* in fact, take it as a fact.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Internet Historian writes his material as comedic recounts of historical events. So yes. I have mostly believed him (where it wasn't a blatant joke)
To say that no one takes what he says as fact is intellectually dishonest. Again he presents these videos as historical documentation told in a comedic fashion. He does NOT present these videos as intentionally incorrectly re-tellings for humor. Nor does he provide disclaimers.

If this was fiction top to bottom you might have a leg to stand on.

@C Porter Yeah ok! Granted that this was probably largely meant to seem as educational as it was entertaining, and therefore, it would be irresponsible for IH to take creative liberties with the story.

... But what, specifically, was false about the video though

@C Porter Yeah ok! Granted that this was probably largely meant to seem as educational as it was entertaining, and therefore, it would be irresponsible for IH to take creative liberties with the story.

*... But what, specifically, was false about the video though*

@C Porter I'll entertain you since I'm just passing time atm. He makes videos so people can enjoy them and have a chuckle over his jokes and stories, such as his Rainfurrest video, to name just one example. Also he does have subscribers that will naturally want to see continuous content.

Also, just to note, I can't speak for anybody in this world, obviously; and neither can you

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Setting aside how you couldn't possibly speak for 3.5 Million people (and counting) whose viewed this, deeply consider this question for a moment, and actually think about it before you respond:

Why would he make his videos,  especially one over an hour long with full visuals, newspaper clippings, quotes, and more if he didn't want them to seem believable and as fact?

Calling me a troll at this point tells me that you're just grasping at straws, just like those who say "who cares?" or "if you don't like it, don't watch it", or other non-arguments like these that are pure cancer since you can say that about literally anything.

@C Porter I'll gladly watch your documentary in full, if you can point out just <b>two</b> specific details that he got wrong, and explain what the truth is, in a comment replying to this one. Because right now you've just been screaming "He GoT iT WrOnG!" while providing no ulterior narratives to believe or disbelieve over his.

@C Porter I'll gladly watch your documentary in full, if you can point out just *two* specific details that he got wrong, and explain what the truth is, in a comment replying to this one. Because right now you've just been screaming "He GoT iT WrOnG!" while providing no ulterior narratives to believe or disbelieve over his.

@a child  ill be looking forward to your response. Is it ging up in this channel you are commenting with?

@a child  ill be looking forward to your response. Is it ging up in this channel you are commenting with?

@C Porter You know "historical records" often have conflicting accounts and information to begin with, right?

@C Porter You know "historical records" often have conflicting accounts and information to begin with, right?

@C Porter A reply like this makes me consider that you could just be a troll, but on the off chance you are serious; nobody, not one single person that has ever watched or will watch his videos takes anything he says as a fact. Every single person has and always will see these videos purely as comedic stories.

Well, every person, bar you of course, who for some ungodly reason seems to believe he's actually doing this with serious intent

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Yeah no shit he aint a historian, but people still beleive what he's saying though just because it's a huge production, as you clearly do. Stop pretending like that he gets a free pass on anything just because he's another content creator.

@Odin whoknowstoomuch Yeah no shit he aint a historian, but people still beleive what he's saying though just because it's a huge production, as you clearly do. Stop pretending like that he gets a free pass on anything just because he's another content creator.

@C Porter "this video makes me question the authenticity of what he puts out"? Just to clarify, you do realise he's not an actual historian, right? Like, he's not doing this for history or being true to the facts.

He's a YouTube entertainer, nothing more, nothing less. He makes videos  to entertain people, not to teach them or give them any authentic insights.

If someone wants to learn about this event or person, they will go read about him through literature or online, they will not watch comedic videos such as this, obviously

@lime light so you're saying I have to be related to Floyd Collins to care about false information spread and disrespect shown? Do you have to be related to JFK to call someone out on their conspiracy theories that he was killed by the Dallas Mafia?

@lime light so you're saying I have to be related to Floyd Collins to care about false information spread and disrespect shown? Do you have to be related to JFK to call someone out on their conspiracy theories that he was killed by the Dallas Mafia?

@Zack Voltran2 I'm making a response video that will do just that, as we speak. I've seen IH's videos for years, but this one has made me severely question the authenticity of what he puts out. Hopefully you all will see it too. Check down the comment line, and that of other replies here, and you'll see more on this.

@Zack Voltran2 I'm making a response video that will do just that, as we speak. I've seen IH's videos for years, but this one has made me severely question the authenticity of what he puts out. Hopefully you all will see it too. Check down the comment line, and that of other replies here, and you'll see more on this.

@C Porter I agree that IF there are blatant errors or misrepresentations that is important to address. I'm not sure why this has generated quite so much toxicity because that seems like a given for what is effectively a documentary. I don't know if that is really a fair statement as this isn't really claiming to be one, though. The jokes and comedic value are artistic liberty in storytelling, certainly, but you are right that they are making fun of or at the very least light of the situation. While I personally enjoyed it, it doesn't change that. The quips aside, the events recounted should be true representations of what happened. I, at least, would enjoy somebody dissecting this video. It is interesting to see anther's take on historic events although truth be told most of the ones I'm familiar with are of much older history where proof is more debatable or open to interpretation.

@C Porter Everyone this guy is just baiting for comments, ignore this moron and just enjoy the video instead of feeding him the drama he wants, His only objective here is to rattle people up.

@C Porter Everyone this guy is just baiting for comments, ignore this moron and just enjoy the video instead of feeding him the drama he wants, His only objective here is to rattle people up.

@C Porter are you related to floyd or something? like why are you so mad LMFAO

@C Porter are you related to floyd or something? like why are you so mad LMFAO

@Testa cals he's too busy plugging his handcam channel featuring mistakes he couldn't even be assed to edit out in post

@Testa cals he's too busy plugging his handcam channel featuring mistakes he couldn't even be assed to edit out in post

Outside of the rescuers, he was treated so poorly while he was still alive.

Outside of the rescuers, he was treated so poorly while he was still alive.

@C Porter what details did the video got wrong ?

@C Porter what details did the video got wrong ?

@Mihail Milev I'm glad you realize that. Yes, it will be on this channel. Check your youtube account settings for the notifications problem, I had that months back for comments myself, but going through them fixed it. You are right, I am rude in these comments, but I'm at my wits end with these people who are like "who cares?!" and "it's JuST a vIDeO" and other idiocy like that. We as historians have a responsibility to tell things correctly, not however we want.

If no one wanted the truth about these things, then there wouldn't be Titanic documentaries, and only the 1997 fictional James Cameron movie which was a huge box office success and impacted many people, believing everything as fact. I would be much more fine with this video if he would have put a disclaimer in the beginning addressing how it's not entirely accurate, but he chose not to.

@FlipFlopGod from what I've seen gay furries specifically seem to be some of the nicest people or groups of people on this planet

@FlipFlopGod from what I've seen gay furries specifically seem to be some of the nicest people or groups of people on this planet

@C Porter I think this was an amazing experience of a video regardless if it was true, but if it's really that inaccurate then I understand your frustration. And the truth should be known alongside. However still we wouldn't have this masterpiece which has affected me and I'm sure at least some others, if he didn't tell the way it did. Still I agree with you that the accurate version and truth should be known as well. Profoundness and truth should both be known and not confused with each other. That's fundamentally where almost all the problems from people in the world come from I think. But anyways I'm curious to see actually how inaccurate it was and what difference if any that it makes. So I'll be waiting for that video. On your channel that ur commenting with right? Congratulations u gave me the final push to write this more longer thought out comment by saying that people had no good arguments. Which makes no sense literally in this context cuz no one's arguing anything but regardless I hope u get the idea, u kinda inspired me to write this so yeah thanks ig. And get going with that video, I hope I see it bcuz I rarely see my notifs cuz I have too many and I might forget by the time I get to it. So yeah. Cheers. Even tho u were kinda pretty rude in these comments. And I'm not from uk. But anyways have a good one and try to be more open minded lol but that doesn't mean losing your skepticism ofcourse, if u can actually tell it apart from denial and contrarianism

What I kind of find fucked up is how close they were to Collins original goal of the beautiful cave formations he was digging to when the rescuers were digging the big ass hole as their final resort. Might have been something cool to find it and open it up, maybe entomb him there or keep it open some how. Maybe not what do I know.

What I kind of find fucked up is how close they were to Collins original goal of the beautiful cave formations he was digging to when the rescuers were digging the big ass hole as their final resort. Might have been something cool to find it and open it up, maybe entomb him there or keep it open some how. Maybe not what do I know.

@FlipFlopGod you went way to far man just like this guy you're responding to. Makes sense considering your previous comment

@FlipFlopGod you went way to far man just like this guy you're responding to. Makes sense considering your previous comment

@FlipFlopGod yeah I don't think those things have anything to do with each other

@FlipFlopGod yeah I don't think those things have anything to do with each other

@FlipFlopGod You and those who say "If you don't like it, don't watch it" and "who cares?!" have always shown the most weakest arguments ever. Think of an actual response that doesn't have lol, lmao, smh, or waa waa in it. Or is that too much work for you?

@FlipFlopGod You and those who say "If you don't like it, don't watch it" and "who cares?!" have always shown the most weakest arguments ever. Think of an actual response that doesn't have lol, lmao, smh, or waa waa in it. Or is that too much work for you?

@C Porter you are mad for no reason. I hope they remember you, because after you pass away. Nobody will.

@C Porter you are mad for no reason. I hope they remember you, because after you pass away. Nobody will.

@C Porter it’s just a video bro. Stop crying waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa

@C Porter it’s just a video bro. Stop crying waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa

@a child  check my other comments across this video and other Floyd Collins videos. Right now I'm working on making my own response video to this mess here.

@a child  check my other comments across this video and other Floyd Collins videos. Right now I'm working on making my own response video to this mess here.

@FlipFlopGod It isn't fucking good storytelling though. The storytelling is told by essentially making up a new story. Imagine if someone told a video about the Titanic but had it sink in 1 piece and wasn't by an iceberg but a Torpedo. That's what he's doing here, but because Floyd Collins isn't as known as the RMS Titanic, it really feels he thinks he can get away with it, or he really is just does a lazy as fuck job researching.

@C Porter blud who invited you. Before this video I didn’t even know the guy existed. It’s just really good story telling.

@C Porter blud who invited you. Before this video I didn’t even know the guy existed. It’s just really good story telling.

You can correct that "was" to "is". Case in point this video that literally disrespects him more, not only by getting key details completely wrong, but also plays up his death as a joke anyways and makes him out to be a fool.

EDIT: I've lost nearly all patience for defending myself through people's hopeless wails of "it's just a video" or "who cares" and the condescending "it's not supposed to be 100%, just get over it lmao" toxic cancer. Instead over the last several days I've been making a video that will address and explain everything I'm talking about. There are far too many things to list here, along with their context, as to do tell it correctly, telling it in 1 or 2 sentences isn't enough for commenters to beleive these things are incredibly crucial, and cant be left out.

EDIT 2: Regardless, Here are just SOME of the many things he got horribly wrong. All listed here are oversimplified and will be expanded on in the video. Sourced by Brucker/Murray in their book Trapped; two people who spent half a decade on Floyd Collins' story to figure this out long before the Internet even.

1. Sand Cave is an entirely different, smaller, and far away cave from Floyd's main cave, Crystal Cave, discovered in 1917 (also said as "Great Crystal Cave" and "Floyd Collins Crystal Cave" post death. 1:04:20 has a sign for it which IH doesn't address at all and instead implies that this was a renaming of Sand Cave. This cave system was massive, and  beautiful. But it had little success apart from archeologically, due to the "Cave Wars". It was his life and joy, which unfortunately he had to put on the market to sell in 1924. Floyd's whole reason to find Sand Cave, which wasn't on his property at all but on the property of Bee Doyle who he had a 50/50 proft partnership with to dig out Sand Cave, hopefully to find a closer entrance to Mammoth Cave itself  to work with. (he had a theory that all the caves connected).

2. IH's description of Floyd's origin not only doesn't mention any of this deliberately states that this was All Sand Cave, but doesn't get even the topography of Sand Cave correct. The Chute, Turnaround Room, Squeeze, etc are out of order. Floyd wasn't trapped flat on the ground like an L actually at a 45 degree angle. His rescue attempts are vastly over simplified as "everyone lost their nerve and abandoned the food & supplies", when dozens legitimately tried and actually helped, just not able to reach Floyd. Including Marshall Collins who did a lot in this, but isn't even mentioned at all.

3. Homer wasn't in Louisville when he heard about Floyd, but at a Gas Station roughly 30 minutes away from Sand Cave, and it didn't take 10 hours for him to get there at all but 30 min. idk where tf he got that idea from, likely made it up, same for the following: Skeets MIller had no knowledge of Floyd himself when he was sent from Louisville to Sand Cave, only that there was conflicting reports, and he was originally to be sent with a rescue team.

Again, this is oversimplified, but still said correctly. Even with this, it's many paragraphs in lengh as you can see, which is why I'm making this into a video format. I cant just say "no it's actually this" in one sentence without leaving out why it's important.

Good thing the gay furries didn’t get ahold of his body

Good thing the gay furries didn’t get ahold of his body

Floyd’s body was actually thrown around.

Floyd’s body was actually thrown around.


I love how the Shelbys are just duplicated in the background lol


Damn ! Crazy to see that even the Peaky Blinders were there to help !


I'm not going to pretend this would have worked, but a simple pulley before the mans head, would have allowed the men pulling the rope to apply as much force as they wanted, while redirecting the rope towards the far wall, instead of against the rock and gravel that he was being pulled up against. Would this have helped? Who can say. But it would probably have been a little more effective than just yanking him up.

Someone must have thought of that at some point, but then again they did lament about not implementing basics like the radio or tarpaulin for Floyd's comfort. <br>The challenge would have been setting it up securely, which is probably what made them disregard the idea if they did think of it. The main challenge after that would have been the rock pinning his leg.

Someone must have thought of that at some point, but then again they did lament about not implementing basics like the radio or tarpaulin for Floyd's comfort.
The challenge would have been setting it up securely, which is probably what made them disregard the idea if they did think of it. The main challenge after that would have been the rock pinning his leg.


im from kentucky and this is a story i never heard. great video!


That moment of Floyd making a desperate attempt to keep someone, anyone with him before the cave-in just made me feel a range of emotions- I just can't. This is all basically just virtual paper dolls moving around and yet the execution of this video is so good

@Santiago You can survive without food for quite a while, more than a week - it's water/liquid you can't live long without. The man would've been okay with next to nothing, but Floyd couldn't even give himself the coffee nearby without another person. Perhaps the man could've also shared some of his body heat with Floyd to keep him warm enough, as the light bulb did for the longest time. It's just a theory for sure, maybe he would've perished still, but it's a haunting thought. A thought that probably also haunted the man who left Floyd in the cave.

@Nabzarella Dare They would have had to share a tin of coffee for days and days in complete darkness, no food whatsoever, and Floyd still freezing to death. I honestly think he would not have survived either way. Also, hard to keep the guys morale up when he basically trapped you in a stone coffin.

The sad part is, as much as I COMPLETELY understand his decision to retreat out of the cave, if that man did stay with him - he MIGHT have been able to keep Floyd alive until rescue. I know it was exposure that got him, and not much could've been done about it once the bulb went out, but perhaps giving him the coffee nearby and keeping his morale up...I dunno. Maybe he would've perished regardless, but the hopelessness likely contributed to Floyd giving up.

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It's a fake reenactment of a very real event, makes it all the more horrifying


In hindsight, Floyd really should've prioritized widening The Squeeze before anything else.


5 minutes in and I have a new fear unlocked… thanks


You should do a video about how the water supply for the city of Flint, Michigan got messed up


What a sad irony that Floyd indeed succeeded in turning his cave into a famous tourist attraction, but not in the way he hoped for

@Leos Lit yeah this is definitely a monkey paw "wish master" twisting of the words situation

He wanted a tourist attraction about his cave and by God he got one

@Tom M really not, no. he worked hard and failed.<br>a "faustian trade" would be a cheating way to success, which then ends up costing you dearly.

@Tom M really not, no. he worked hard and failed.
a "faustian trade" would be a cheating way to success, which then ends up costing you dearly.

@Cubi Damnit you beat me to it by 45 minutes lol

I literally just watched the Ted the caver story from muta, so upon hearing the name Floyd I instantly went "oh, oh no"

@King_ Ping tbh more like success from suffering

Suffering from success ....... Literally


Ah the "righteous mobs" acting on rumours of their own creation and ruining everything for everyone whilst feeling they're doing the correct thing.

People were no different back then than they are now.


This channel may only release 2 videos per year, but the quality is absolutely waaaaay beyond anything out there.

One of my favorite channels of all time, and probably one of my favorite storytellers of all time and that's saying something.

This was as fun to watch a second time as it was the first time.


rip to all those who died in a cave they were exploring but enjoy your darwin award

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11:05 I was not expecting to randomly hear the MOH:AA soundtrack in a IH video.


Homer is a real one, jesus christ. Went where no other man dared without hesitation, and mustered the strength of more than 5 other men to relieve his brothers pain. Gerald and Miller too, its just insane the loyalty and dedication these guys had.

@Screaming Cactus trueee <br>Man's an absolute chad

@Screaming Cactus trueee
Man's an absolute chad

@Goddeperson No3 I doubt he was the only reporter there. Miller was just built different

I'm just wondering how small and skinny you gotta be to be able to fit to even be physically possible to try. My head ain't that big but some dudes got a fat head. I'm short but doubt once my head gets in if there would be any way other then cutting my chest open and removing bones to fit. I might have 1 or 2 cm maybe at most.

@Goddeperson No3 I'm glad Miller got rewarded with a Pullitzer.

news men were just build different back then


Just came here to see how someone can make a video about some guy in a cave that takes more than 1 our, and maybe bookmark it to watch later because I could guess it's worth watching but boring.
couldn't imagine first few seconds will be the start of watch the video till the very end
what a piece of history to share
made masterpiece with great production.


20:27 “24-karat idea!”
I’m using this line now


I like internet historian, I like rewatching his videos…I can’t watch this one again. It’s too horrifying.


Yep, for once, if Floyd would have just downloaded and played World of Tanks, this wouldn't have happened.  Thank god Plague is into drawing furries and not caves.


That final interaction with Floyd is what got me. He knew the cave was about to cave in and he was just scared. After being stuck there for so long he didn’t want to be trapped alone. Terrifying what he must have felt afterwards. Most people would go insane from being left alone in a white room for 24h I can’t even imagine what he felt not being able to move at all just him as his thoughts. I’d like to believe that Floyd knew that they where digging for him and that they hadn’t given up.

I think Floyd's intent there wasn't that he wanted someone to be trapped with him so he wouldn't die alone, but rather he knew that if there was someone else stuck with him after the cave in, they may redouble their efforts to rescue them both. Rather than just write him alone off as a lost cause.

@C L We never will, but I like to think there's a world he made it.

@KillerSpace2726 I would be concerned about food...he might have died anyway, 3 days with exposure and stuck in the cold might not have made a whole lot of difference even with someone else...I guess we can't know

As a great actor in a terrible movie once said.<br>'the man was drowning, you can't blame him for trying to drag someone when he's drowning"

As a great actor in a terrible movie once said.
'the man was drowning, you can't blame him for trying to drag someone when he's drowning"

I honestly think he may have survived if the other man had been in there.  Might have been enough body heat sharing and will power to continue.

I can't even imagine how terrifying that must've been. Alone in a freezing dark hole with just a small light. You can't hear anyone and no one can hear you while you're slowly dying. I got shivers just by typing this. God bless that man's soul. I hope he found peace in the afterlife.


Me a minute into the video: “oh he is going to get out. Everything will be just fine.”
Pause the video.
Me after I see how much is left to watch: “Fuck!”


It always amazes me that no one is worried about a venomous snake biting then directly in the face as the climb in a cave, or a freakin wolverine mauls you

Snakes... don't... do that? And wolverines, for one, would not live in a cave, and secondly, would not kill some guy randomly.


I can't describe the feeling of caring so much about a hole


There really wasn’t anything better to do back in the day than to go look at a guy stuck in a hole in the ground huh


Man. The part where Floyd knew the cave was going to collapse and was begging to not be trapped alone hurt my soul.

@Zadamanim I doubt there'd be enough for two people. Plus, I don't doubt that part was entirely hopeful optimism, they were quite deep underground at that point so it wouldn't be surprising for there to be no water.

@ok There was plenty of water on the ground and on the walls.

@Zadamanim no, there wouldn't be enough water

@Rainkit to be fair, it's not like moving is cheap or easy. Specially for a field worker with a family.

@Katamari Roller indeed. When your options are farm where the soil is poor or try to get a few quarters from cave tourist, its probably a much better idea just to move. You get a lot more out of life that way.

@anto karman Nah. It's more depressing to die alone. Especially when there were so many people there who just didn't do anything and when you thought you were so close to getting out. At least if there's someone else there and you can help each other survive and potentially be rescued. Floyd survived almost a full week after all.<br>They've done studies, back when those experiments were legal, that showed that dogs who couldn't reach the rim of a pool drowned faster than dogs that could. Like them Floyd likely just gave up once the hole was sealed and he finished crying. That might not have happened with someone else there.

@anto karman Nah. It's more depressing to die alone. Especially when there were so many people there who just didn't do anything and when you thought you were so close to getting out. At least if there's someone else there and you can help each other survive and potentially be rescued. Floyd survived almost a full week after all.
They've done studies, back when those experiments were legal, that showed that dogs who couldn't reach the rim of a pool drowned faster than dogs that could. Like them Floyd likely just gave up once the hole was sealed and he finished crying. That might not have happened with someone else there.

If that guy had been trapped with Floyd he might have survived since he could have shared his body heat.

@Katamari Roller That's life, not just Capitalism. You don't become big by taking no risks, living a quiet life.

@Obi the BEEF <br>Capitalism at is finest indeed !

@Obi the BEEF
Capitalism at is finest indeed !

Also thinking that was the last moment he spoke with anyone else.

at first I honestly thought he was begging the guy to kill him before it caved in and left him to die of exposure

@Obi the BEEF Dude was doing the capitalist hustle: risk your health and accept risks in the vain hope that you will become rich... and instead have others profit off your misfortune.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. If you have a dumb and extremely dangerous life threatening hobby like this then you should expect this to happen to you. Guy literally was the surprised Pikachu face meme. XD

he might have even survived with some company to keep him awake

that hurt me too, he was basically begging another person to die with him

@anto karman <br>He already have losed his mind at that time

@anto karman
He already have losed his mind at that time

@anto karman he wasn't thinking clearly at this stage for sure. It is understandable that he would ask for impossible things like this

Dying alone might be terrifying but becoming the cause of someone else's death is more depressing. Especially if there's a prospect that you'll spend some time with their corpse


If only it had been the 1st time and the last that brave Kentuckians had been trapped in the cold unstable underground as for more than a century spelunking and coal mining have entombed the unfortunate who, for fame or simply to feed a family, have died in the wet and constant 55° environment waiting in desperation for rescue.


When you said clay, I though "SMASH THE STONE!" BETTING ON VINEGAR! 2/3rd into it


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Pretty sure I've watched this at least ten times now


Wendigoon barely being able to hold it together after singing “whatever you do don’t cut my foot off” had me in tears

wait now that you mention him, this video reminded me of his video on some national flesh pit park... combined, these two videos have heavily contributed to my fear of caves

I had to pause the video cuz I couldn't breath LMFAO

@Aexis Rai True hero coming in with the timestamp.

@CrowLife he's a pretty cool dude with some awesome creepy/spoopy vids. Highly recommend.

I dont get it. Ehat is it about wendigoon?


Casually waiting for internet historian's 8$ twitter verification video


How did he even find that place? How could he even have discovered the goal location to begin with?

I'm surprised nobody tried to open the turnaround more. It would take a while but surely a few more inches of clearance would incentivize more people to help.


When the Red Dead Redemption II music hit, I felt that.


Question: why did he not make the cave accessible going in? Why start digging way inside of the cave? Seems stupid and reckless.

From what i hear you generally don't mess with naturally form cave formations


I don’t think I’ve ever felt more secure in my life than whenever Gerald showed up on screen, he just oozed charisma and security

@Uhh.... hi? What's it like having a room temp IQ? This is a bot poster.

His actor Rusty Cage also makes some cool videos

If the first and only person to come to his rescue was him then Floyd might have managed to survive, unironically


"Speaking of people trapped in their caves... WORLD OF TANKS" 😅


I've been listening to the story in the background as I do other things around the house, and as IH keeps upping the ways that rescue teams go in to try and save Floyd, it creates the thought that all of this has to be happening over the course of weeks upon weeks worth of time. I mean, so much news being passed around in the 1920's about a random farming man in the middle of Kentucky being trapped in (as far as people would've likely assumed) unremarkable cave, becoming the entire talk of the country to the point where it's the third largest non-war headline between two World Wars and the President of the United States garners an interest in it? People want to crowd around to help out? The town gets inundated with tourists, flocking to see Floyd specifically, to the point where the population grows by more than 10 times its original count? The government actually gets involved to help this random farmer, saying to take however much money is necessary to get the people and equipment needed to get the job done? I have to remind myself to look at the elapsed time since Floyd's entrapment to remind myself that all of the aforementioned events, ALL of them, happened in *just* six days. And it took about one of them for anyone to even know that Floyd was trapped in the cave to begin with. It is just.... insane to me, that it could happen at this rate pre-internet, and it must've been so overwhelming for everyone involved. It's just amazing.

I've been listening to the story in the background as I do other things around the house, and as IH keeps upping the ways that rescue teams go in to try and save Floyd, it creates the thought that all of this *has* to be happening over the course of *weeks* upon *weeks* worth of time. I mean, so much news being passed around in the 1920's about a random farming man in the middle of Kentucky being trapped in (as far as people would've likely assumed) unremarkable cave, becoming the entire talk of the country to the point where it's the third largest non-war headline between two World Wars and the President of the United States garners an interest in it? People want to crowd around to help out? The town gets inundated with tourists, flocking to see Floyd specifically, to the point where the population grows by more than 10 times its original count? The government actually gets involved to help this random farmer, saying to take however much money is necessary to get the people and equipment needed to get the job done? I have to remind myself to look at the elapsed time since Floyd's entrapment to remind myself that *all* of the aforementioned events, *ALL* of them, happened in **just** six days. And it took about one of them for anyone to even know that Floyd was trapped in the cave to begin with. It is just.... insane to me, that it could happen at this rate pre-internet, and it must've been so overwhelming for everyone involved. It's just amazing.


Caves where I can't walk through are just a hard nope for me.


Nice video! You should do one of the Amityville case


I have no idea how you managed to depict the caves so well but it looks genuinely terrifying to watch through. For moments, I felt like I was stuck in a cave. 441 hours is absurd and to think he survived most of that alive and somewhat conscious is horrifying.

This was unbelievably entertaining.  As good as, if not better than, a movie.  Especially if it was a movie on this topic which would undoubtedly be trash. It genuinely made my day, I started listening to it in the background, and 10 minutes in I'm totally invested emotionally, despite them looking like early years South Park characters, and having a good laugh.

@chinablue who oh geeze a guy also died in that one, yikes

God yeah I had shudders of claustrophobia when he was describing the process of him getting in there

There is a video about the nutty putty cave on youtube very unsettling as well


this is the most absolutely terrifying thing i have ever seen


Hey! For sure you have another project in your hands, but I'd love to see an Elon Twitter episode of Internet Historian in a year or two!


So what I got from all this is the "cappers"....were the OG cappers of the modern terminology


I love that all the passers bys are peaky blinders. My brain likes to think this was a ploy used to profit by those pesky English boys.


The spectrum of human emotions was on full display here. Hope, determination, love, fear, desperation, greed--rest in peace an inspiration to cavers.

@kotzpenner you say as we are looking at pictures of a man who squeezed himself through a what 7 inch hole?

@This isn't medicine eh, more specifically phobia against caves? I don't know what the word is. Claustrophobia is just tight spaces, which are semi-fine

@This isn't medicine yeah lmao, after this I'll probably have a phobia lol

more like inspiration to not ever go into a damn cave


Hearing the Outer Wilds track makes me smile


My parents took me to Mammoth Cave a few times as a kid, it was a good time. Little did I know...

BTW you're pronouncing "Louisville" wrong. Try saying "Law-ville," but pretend you're a heavily inebriated Danish guy.


Remember when he said "no more 45 minute videos on the main channel"? He wasn't lying at least


This guy took the fuck around slider and moved it up to 15.  This is an amazing insight into humans. How they solve problems. How they make them worse.  Also.. I learned one thing. Kentucky don't fucking give up.


It was heart wrenching when Floyd begged Casey to stay I genuinely can’t imagine something like this its just unthinkable

@Zuleph Izus he probably wasnt thinking straight, it was likely a panic reaction

@George HH To be honest, i agree that the rescuer could've helped Floyd survive if he stayed during the cave in.

There was food and drink with Floyd,  but Floyd can't feed himself. The lightbulb went out about 3 days before Floyd was found, another person's body heat could've kept him warm for the remaining hours. And humans are truly social creatures, I'm sure having some company would've had a very positive affect on Floyd's mental state.

That being said, I have no idea what state the trapped rescuer would be in if he got stuck. 12 days without food would be a tough hurdle to overcome.

@T Man The newspaper headline said that, not him.
Also, they had tried many times to free him that way.
The person he tried to keep down with him was just surveying the situation, so would've had very few tools with him. So no, he wouldn't have survived that way, not remotely.
"Push through together"
With what, mind control?

@Zuleph Izus it also said 24 hours tho? That’s weird. If it was 24 then it was a much better chance, but even 72 would be do-able I think

@Nameless<br> Oh i think i figured out where. The Tulsa newspaper header a few seconds later. i guess the was a discrepancy in the reports?

@Nameless
 Oh i think i figured out where. The Tulsa newspaper header a few seconds later. i guess the was a discrepancy in the reports?

@T Man
Where'd you get 24 hours from?
At 59:20, a coroner said Floyd was dead for about 3 days, about 72 hours, before they found him

@Nameless what about him? I’m confused what you mean?

@T Man what about the other dude that was in the gap i think?

@Zuleph Izus somewhat ironically, if he had have managed to lure the other rescuer in with him before the collapse, there would’ve been a much higher chance he’d survive. Another person in there who would have food and water, to talk to and keep pushing through together. It says he was dead for 24 hours by the time they reached him; I’m sure with the extra person and extra supplies staying with him (presumably with a lamp for light too) he stood a much better chance of surviving those 24 hours

@Zuleph Izus I would imagine the moment his light went out, the only thing he had left, he gave up and stopped fighting and let his body slip away

It would be his last symbol of hope getting dashed

The narration stated that Floyd was aware of the impending cave in. I can't imagine the desperation someone must experience in order to try and trap a rescuer inside with them.

That and Floyd presumably passing with his light bulb flickering out made me emotional, as if the return of the cave's darkness is what finally took him.

@Edana ni Emer I know about that one I thought this was another retailing of that but more detailed but this is the first time I heard about this one and wonder why it isnt more popular considering its as bad (I think being suspended upside down would be worse)

This is why I am never entering a cave for any amount of money I am not taking that chance no matter how low it is

@NS Alieister You want another, arguably worse, trapped-in-a-cave story? Check out the Nutty Putty cave incident. It's horrifying.

@NS Alieister I can't think of a worse living hell

Stories like these are why I would never go cave exploring the way Floyd died is one of the worst ways ever

Starved dehydrated alone in the dark with no one to share his last words with and knowing he was so close to being rescued

Also the way to Floyd was actually horrific and I was just looking at it through my phone cant imagine the people who went in in absolute darkness multiple times


I can’t wait for the internet historian’s video of Elon Musks twitter takeover


I watch this already knowing what happened, I'm not sure how I feel about the humor.


5:06 this animation is really amazing. i almost got sick watching it


With a lot of these like 100 year old stories, I wonder what would happen if this happened today. Like would he have gotten out? What would they have done differently

if it happened now hed prolly be out within 1 week but its still crazy how this story went

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I'm extremely impressed at how you transitioned away from telling internet history to regular history and no one seemed to notice.

This is the kind of shenanigans that normally happen on the internet, so that’s why. Besides, now that it’s number 3 on trending it’s technically a crossover hit. God bless poor Floyd and Homer.

To be fair he's done it before. Costa Concordia or Harold Camping videos for example. Neither one had anything to do with internet history. They're just real life stories like this one.

He's still IH. Except instead of an internet historian, he's a historian on the internet.


Hour 144 - Authorities took control of Collins' rescue.

Here is an idea: start with that next time.


Cave city story screamed made in abyss. Floyd would've been a white whistle 😂


Not the only time a guy named Floyd would dominate mainstream media for while huh?

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this sounds like an episode of the magnus archives (for the Buried entity)


Really nice of IH to give every Twitch variety streamer a solid hour of free content like this, they need it

Everyone fills in their own streamer and finally my man Wubby is doing it and even tho he skipped the ad he shouted out the World of Tanks referral code

Twitch streams should at least link IH's video and ask their viewers to leave a like or something after watching the video with them and also not skip IH's ad time like some twitch streamers I know.

I try to judge streamers on a case-by-case basis if they do reaction content, and IH videos provide one of the easiest ways to do that: if they skip his ads, then not only are they thieving shitbags for cutting out one of the more reliable ways to make money on YT, but they’re also idiots for skipping the genius that is the IH Ad Cinematic Universe.

@Tanuki Joshua Graham in full honesty it's a guilty pleasure of mine but at least i try to watch people who add stuff like VTH

Honestly I love watching reaction videos (not streams) and I can't wait to see how people react to this video!

anything to keep paying for Hasan's mom to make him nuggies

Dude they're the worst, can't tell you how much I hate reaction channels or twitch streamers that just watch videos and don't offer anything but a couple of chuckles and nodding along in agreement. Absolute leeches

@piyo! Man's has many videos he needs to just post already.

<b>DarkViperAU wants to know your location</b>

*DarkViperAU wants to know your location*

Asmongold reaction already in the process

Fuck twitch streamers, bunch of parasitic vermin


wtf when wendigoons face popped up i was suprised, didnt know this was a collab.


This is one of the best YouTube videos i have ever watched


Don't give those townspeople the title of having tried and failed. They didn't fail; they gave up. There is far more honor in failure. I will not say they did the wrong thing. If you find that you are unqualified and will only hinder the rescue (or worse, add another body) you should absolutely turn around, but you don't earn the title of having tried.


At the 5 minute ad point i checked how long was left in the video and realized... this is gonna be good.