I had a math teacher in 7th grade who was a Vietnam Vet. One day, one of the students dropped his not book on the floor. The teachers eyes went wild and he screamed at the top of his lungs "GET DOWN!" He then dove head first over his desk and remained completely silent. The class laughed as we thought he was kidding. After a couple minutes a student got up to see if the teacher was ok. He was in a fetal position on the floor behind his desk crying. An ambulance showed soon after. I never saw that teacher again. I hope your ok Mr. Holmen. I'm sorry you had to go through what you went through. You were a good teacher. War destroys people.
@Celestial Emissary I worked with a an Iraq vet a few years back at a paintball field where sudden loud noises were relatively common. One day though, he just fucking snapped when an o-ring popped in the high pressure air hose. I've never seen a man more terrified and he couldn't be calmed down for hours. PTSD is fucking crazy, I could see OPs situation being quite plausible.
Its a damn shame what happened (while in country and when they got home) to the boys they sent off to Vietnam. It's been almost sixty years and my Grandpa is still jumpy..
My dad got drafted, did 2 tours and stayed in the military his entire life afterwards. When he snapped it wasn’t crying and stuff, it was straight back into “combat mode” he could be the scariest thing you’d ever seen if you surprised him. I once snuck up on him while he was doing yard work and scared him with a snake and he almost killed me with a shovel on reflex, my mom had to tell me to never ever mess with my dad like that again.
Vietnam was hell, young men got traumatized and came home and some didn’t ever mentally come back.
I think the people who say stories like this are funny are people who are hurting themselves, and just like a bully vent their pain towards others. They can also be people with such fragile egos that if they believe in something that turns out to be false they’re suddenly idiots. Psychology is complicated.
@Celestial Emissary there's no telling when someone has a flashback. you could be subjected to a given stimulus 20 times and then suddenly, it happens again under the right conditions, and it makes you freak out. there are all sorts of variables influencing your mental state at any given point in time. your location, the people around you, the current state of your mind, the things that happened earlier that day, etc. we know this from many examples. look at the man who killed chris kyle. he was in many live fire situations and had even done stress drills without any adverse reaction. but one day out of nowhere, during normal target shooting, he snapped and murdered chris kyle. there's no rhyme or reason to it. well, actually there probably is. it's just much too complicated, and there are just way too many variables, for humans to nail down the exact sequence of events that leads to a trigger. just because there are too many factors to keep track of, doesn't mean they don't exist.
@Toxically Masculine I suffer from PTSD and everything you said was spot on. My partner taps me to get my attention 99.99% it's fine. However if I'm having a bad day, she could tap me and send me into a panic attack or vicous flashbacks. It seems to put your mind on such a hair trigger
@Alex Worm It isn't. My father was a Pathfinder in Long Bien 1970-71. He'd wake up from sound sleeps in a terror. When he had his nose operated on at the VA in Leeds, Ma., there was a vet there who had a football helmet padlocked to his head to keep him from smacking his head into cinderblock walls. Additionally, an English Instructor at my first attempt at college, told a story of a pilot who went into evasive maneuvers after someone dropped a couple of coins from their pocket, hitting the steel floor of the craft. It sounded like rounds hitting the plane, as when he was flying a huey in the MiKong Delta. When the plane finally landed, he found the one who dropped the coins and kicked his ass. It wasn't deliberate. Just a freak occurrence, but flashbacks are a real thing. I miss my dad. I wish I told him more often that I am proud of him.
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When i was in 4th grade one day we had a sub who was a war veteran and he told the class all about the war and why he went almost completely deaf he was up against a concrete wall and was being shot at. sadly i never saw that sub again after that day. i assume he was fired for telling us about the war after some parent complained about it
@Damon Kelly I wouldn't get so upset about people calling you a liar bro... What's true is true. And regardless, I've seen stuff similar happen. Most of the morons that have the need to "call you out" have never been around a real man that's engaged in heavy combat. Either that, or they are just so cynical anything in the yt comment section is bs. Which isn't without reason. Anyways, you know it would be cool for you to make a vlog about it and post it back on this thread if you decide to do it.
Not to derail-I had a teacher back in college who told me that she had a student who came back from Iraq-a Lieutenant, leading a squad in warehouse clearing when hand-to-hand combat broke out. He ended up almost killing his wife during a night terror by strangling her. Luckily he didn't, and he got the help he needed.
Sounds like me. War is hell and sticks with you daily. I still see the faces of the Iraqis I had in my sights. I take more pills than my diabetic grandfather just to she semi functionable
Why is everyone claiming this story is bs or copy and paste? Whether Damon was the student in that class room or not, this type of story is real enough to stop and think about what those men had sacrificed for our great country. So back to the bridge you trolls, you are destroying true compassion and story telling.
throw away right? It could be something as simple as “I took my dog for a walk yesterday and saw a snake”. There will always be comments saying it’s a lie for no apparent reason. People are bored and looking to annoy and argue about anything and everything. It’s a really unoriginal and contrived way of trolling that doesn’t take much tact or imagination to do. But people still fall for it.
I am a troubled and misunderstood veteran and was forced to rely on my combat and survival senses against the abusive law enforcement of the small town of Hope, Washington.
I was in a bathroom on 4th of July at an outdoor bar. Whilst on the toilet I heard a man rush into the bathroom, panting quite loudly, almost panicked sounding. A few moments later he heard me make the terrible noise of spinning an empty toilet paper roll, and instantly the man says "don't worry, I got you man". He helped me and led, I payed attention to his shoes, I then found him at the bar, as I wanted to buy him a drink. After talking a few moments he revealed that he was panicked, he was an Iraq war veteran and when he heard a firework go off, he damn near lost it.
@Alex Worm no i had a history teacher that was a Vietnam vet, he had a few episodes like that. He wasn't nearly as fucked up as this guy but if you dig deep into Vietnam it was by far the worse war for vets. Not many of them that were infantry came back not fucked up
@Alex Worm nah I'm a 32 year old millennial and had several Vietnam vet teachers. And like the students always knew which ones were in Vietnam. I don't think Gen Z has that opportunity as many Vietnam vets are retiring or retired now.
@joseph mengele04 lol you'd be hard pressed to find a Vietnam vet who didn't have to fight tooth and nail to get 40% disability for having both his legs and balls blown off in the war. The gov will make up any excuse they can to give out disability, especially back then.
@Celestial Emissary PTSD is triggered spontaneously. It's not like it just has to be a note book being dropped and then all of a sudden they have a flashback. They could hear litteraly gun shots and not have it trigger them someone may pay them on the back and that does it.
One of our substitute teachers, Mr. Lee, did the exact same thing. It actually happened twice, because the second time a kid did it on purpose. Fucking awful.
@Kyle Kyle Stories like that are true! My late uncle was a Vietnam vet and he had a similar (although not has drastic), respond when a firecracker went off by him on the 4th of July when I was young. I will never forget that.
I was in the Army Infantry & deployed to Iraq were small arm fire, IEDs, rockets, grenades, & mortars happened daily. The only time I was ever jumpy was about the first week home. Everything is quieter, nervous a shit cuz my wife’s driving cuz I probly never drove faster than 10 mile an hr on ground. And bein more alert. But that faded quickly. But never diving & laying fetal out of fear. Never acting like that in Iraq when attack! But hey, maybe he wasn’t in a combat sound day after day & did get that scared in combat. Who knows. Everyone is different. We all act differently
My dad was a Marine in Vietnam. He hasn't shown PTSD symptoms often during my life however he tried playing an old COD game or something similar and it messed with him. There may have been something outside class that made the teacher more susceptible at the time.
My dad was the dude hanging out a chopper shooting a 40 and a 50 cal. Machine gun.... Lucky he is ok as far as i can tell he had a little monkey and had a army uniform made for him....dad said the little guy loved beer and cigs! Lol other then that he doesn't talk much about the war he says it was so much worse for infantry guys..... see he never had to sleep out in the jungle although he was shot down on two different occasions so hard non the less! Bless all those boys that never came back and those who left there mind's in the jungle!
That is incredibly saddening... my uncle was the same way, I watched him go through multiple episodes as a child and I couldn’t understand what was happening at the time. It’s hard to believe/imagine unless you have seen it yourself.
Alex Worm, it’s not bullshit. My fiancé was in the Marines, and did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wakes up from horrible nightmares, hiding and grasping his gun. To say it’s bullshit is extremely insensitive.
@Crystal Henderson gee I wish you'd repeat yourself again for the people in the back who might not have heard you the first 15 times. You're a little on the subtle side, are you trying to suggest that seemed like a comment from a scared little kid that's trying desperately to make himself feel big and bad? Maybe you should open your mouth a little wider when you talk. In case we didn't hear you.
@Toxically Masculine amen brother. Ive never been to "war", except spiritual....all day, erry day.sin, my mothers death, stalkers, lyme disease, Stress caring for a dying mother, losing 2/3 of my business, my part time job, snapped!!! Mental ward, involuntarily committed. Spirual. JESUS SAVES
A counselor in my school who was tough as shit, broke down when talking to my health class. It was heartbreaking. And I can’t imagine what effect being a black man in that time had on him, not that it matters so much in war but you never know.
@Kyle Kyle I knew a man like this, service in Nam. I dropped my cell phone behind him on wooden floor. Loud thump. Exactly the same thing happened but we didn't laugh because this was a friends father and we knew well enough this happens. What's worse is when you hear the dreams. It's one of the most painful things to listen to because you're not only dealing with the empathy for the victim, but his daughter (in my case). And the shame they felt even though it was never needed. In other words this matches my experience. Almost to the letter
@Andrew Mastrantoni used to play airsoft we had a few vets thatd show up from time to time, those bb grenades went off all the time no problem, then one day one was in the same structure as a vet, long story short, I didn't see him ever again at the field. Hope he's doing good.
@joseph mengele04 ah yes, undermining the adverse psychological effects of partaking in a conflict as horrific as Vietnam. Glad to see the ignorance never ceases.
My husband had severe PTSD , from both military and childhood abuse. His triggers are probably in the thousands, and sometimes he blacks out and doesn't remember a thing. This situation is absolutely possible and my heart goes out to this poor man.
My late father did two tours as an infintry Marine. The sounds of helicopters put him on edge and he always had to face the door while at a restaurant. Rest in peace dad.
@Juan 4Realz That's because he copied and pasted that story. I've read that story in so many videos. Also, 99% of stories in comments are fabricated from people seeking attention. I think you're one of those storytellers, that's why you're trying to try to make it sound legitimate.
My grandfather would do this almost every time a plane went over the house. Made everyone get down and take cover as well. It was so sad, he had some SERIOUS demons all the was up until his death many years ago.
I'm an Iraq vet. I went there 3 times as an infantryman with the 3rd Infantry between 2003 and 2008. Nearly all of my friends have some degree of PTSD and some have either died of drug overdoses or suicide in the years since. One of my closest, a team leader who lost his leg in July 2008 to a deep buried IED, had a standoff with police just a year after his injury. Luckily, the cops had experience with guys suffering PTSD and were able to talk him down. There's different I guess kinds of PTSD. It manifests in different ways. None of us have problems with loud noises and nearly all go shooting pretty regularly. The most common emotion is regret. Regret over what we could have done differently. For me, it was civilian casualties. When I was at my lowest, I had hallucinations of dead kids in my kitchen when I was drunk. It can bring you to some pretty dark places.
I believe you. I had a teacher in HS that was a Vietnam vet. He even shared with us he was a POW at one time. He would twitch, squeal and make manic noises and movements at times in reaction to us. I could tell at times even the smallest things would shake him up :/
@Kaylan Clack I have PTSD as well, but have not served in combat or been in the military. Im a sexual assault victim so anyone touching me could make me combative and anxious. My BF is the only one who can really touch me without me getting anxious, but even with him I sometimes get annoyed if he touches me. Im constantly looking around and behind me whenever I go somewhere, its like a looming sense of paranoia. I dont get many flashbacks like most people with PTSD, but I'm almost always on edge in public.
this is most definitely really guys lol my father was in the military and in the fire department and sometimes certain sudden loud sounds would cause him to go into fits of unimaginable and unexplainable rage. Lots of walls and Tvs had to be fixed but he’s okay now, went to doctors and treatment and is now all good :) but it was very confusing , some things wouldn’t be things that usually triggered rage in him so it was unpredictable. it’s been years since that’s happened i don’t think it will again, doesn’t mean he still isn’t jumpy in nature lol but it is very very much real
ptsd sucks for a lot of people... its sad becuase the ones most affected are rape victims, veterans, and severely abused children no one deserves to have this disease because you can't escape what you saw it replays in your head over and over and over and over. you can't escape that trauma ever!
@A Jack I have a friend who's dad was like this. Numerous times hes tried to kill some of us thinking we were enemies while calling us names. Crazy shit.
@Randomness That was what my dad did too, Chinook sidegunner based out of Marble Mountain in Da Nang, 282nd Assault Helicopter Company. He used an M60 though. I still have a picture of him posing with it.
@A Jack they saw the worst of humanity, & most of it was people from their own ranks. It's why I especially hate racism or any form of bigotry, any forms, b/c once you separate someone as "the other" any kind of depravity is possible. We're not descended from bonobos, we're descended from the more violent apes.
@Michael Anderson i actually just watched a yt vid about a week ago talking about that pilot and that incident! I love aviation disaster stories. Doesnt help my fear of flying but i cant get enough of them.
@Celestial Emissary PTSD isn't that simple, it's not like every single bang will set off a reaction. Many times yes, that is the case. But if this guy is a teacher, maybe got some help to stabilize him before he began teaching, so he was okay. But one day, the emotions and thoughts aligned with the environment, and bam, he reflexed.
@Andrew Mastrantoni That he said he never saw that teacher again is what's too hard to believe. Also, a notebook is a very light item, it dropping on the floor wouldn't trigger a catatonic PTSD response. The fact that he even "remembers" what caused the reaction is very suspicious aswell, and that the teacher yelled out "Get down". It just screams of fabrication from someone who's seen one too many war movies.
those with ptsd like myself would very much understand that the notebook sound was a trigger... he got triggered and his brain brought him back to the war... a war that has ended BUT not for him, not for his brain
@Alex Worm my thoughts exactly. I'm an Afghanistan Vet and PTSD didn't work like that for anyone that I've ever met. Most of what I saw was people come back and get really angry at things that they would have brushed off in the past. Of course other things like not wanting to go to events that remind them about their experiences, but the thing about someone dropping a book is garbage. Fake stories like this are why people think veterans are psychos when we're normal people just trying to fit in.
Living on a military instalation you have a lot of veterans teaching in Middle School and High School DoDEA. One was a vietnam vet who when recounting his story pointed at me and said "no older than him who never came home." I never tensed up more in my life. I must have been white as a sheet. What frightened me the most was his stare. not his usual one where he had a twinkle and 'said' "Now what I said might be true." This was a serious one.
My eighth grade gym teacher told us about how in high school him and his friends would drop their textbooks on the ground to mess with the teacher who served in Vietnam
This used to happen to my dad all the time. so many different sounds would set him off. he was a signal man so would hear "messages decoded" in random sounds. war destroys people.
@A Jack Thats horrible. Imagine having something in your hands like a knife, hammer or tool. Maybe on your family members scare you and you accidentally kill them or hurt them badly. I would feel like dying or the worst and you wouldnt be able to control it since it is a reflex
@Alex Johnson Nah the absolute worst thing you could have done around my dad (RIP) is mention "Jane Fonda" lmao, unless you were ready to listen to a whole entire angry rant.
@Alex Worm it may sound unbelievable, but it's how PTSD work. I had a lot of friends held hostage in Nord-Ost theatre in Moscow. Some of them died, and one who survived had PTSD. When she heard loud noises she would duck and be in shock. It's so sad to watch.
Happened to my history teacher...for years after kids would walk by his class and yell "hit the deck" and he would. It was awful how people tortured him.
He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged.
@Raphaella Victoria you have no idea if he danced to taunt enemy's or not. Plus PTSD isn't just a dissociative disorder. Sometimes things become veiled. You know your not at war but you believe your being challenged by a combatant none the less. Sometimes they believe a conspiracy is involved to take their lives. What he did wasn't right but I do believe it's a direct result of his PTSD.
@Andrew Mastrantoni A coworker of mine was in the Canadian forces for years. While playing paintball for the first time since deployment, he "snapped" and ended up breaking someone's collarbone as far as I'm aware. I don't doubt OP's story, sometimes you just snap with that kinda trauma.
These stories sound plausible. Most combat veterans reactions would be more aggressive. But I can see how some would run and seek cover. Everyone snaps differently.
And in 7th grade I'm sure you guys knew something was wrong but probably didn't understand until you got older or a parent explained. Plus it was as talked about then as it is now.
I remember we were discussing Vietnam in school, and this friendly guy who looked like Santa Claus was an administrator around the building. One of the nicest people you would ever meet. He started talking about how in Vietnam he had to take out a kid with a knife that was standing guard to an area they were trying to get to, and you could see the other teachers in the room panic, as they weren't expecting our high school class to suddenly get exposed to real shit like that.
They tried to calmly, and respectfully shut it down and wrap it up, as he looked pretty shaken bringing the story up. It was just an awkward turn of events, and hopefully it's something he was able to get help with, because you could see it still haunted him.
@Alex Worm No it's very common for soldiers to experience PTSD that is triggered by certain noises. It's common knowledge this happens and very common for soldiers to have breakdowns.
Any situation to where its kill or be killed will absolute mulch someones soul. The chance that a person could die is...that chance that situation whatever and in this case war which is a year after year thing, there's nothing worse a person could go through.
@Celestial Emissary I have family and friends with ptsd, many times we would go shooting and have fun, jo problems, yet something just like OP said would happen, and they would freak out and avt like they are in battle for a moment. Mental illness is never clear and cut. Keep that in mind
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
stories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme aot of it.
@Andrew Mastrantoni Same. Had a guy come into the ED after having some issues with police and it turned out he was an infantry Sgt in the Army from a nearby base. He was intoxicated and really fucked up, but what I remember most was him crying about broken tourniquets and losing someone in combat as he was laying on the hospital bed. What I also remember very well are the nurses laughing at him and talking about going to taze him and everything just because he was being verbally belligerent with them. We had some asshole air force reserve O-6 doctor try to go into their puff their chest up and say that they knew what he was going through, but the doctor didn't know shit. Had one of the older hospital police officers go in their who was an 82nd airborne dude back in the 80s and 90s go in their and they talked for a good hour and half. Guy was pretty calm after. Really fucked with me because it was my first real experience with PTSD, but also with how callous and mean people in medicine can be. Its also why I kind of have a hate-boner for nurses lmao.
@Paul Anthony I have lived in a war zone. I still react to any type of siren or similar sound that goes by. It makes me want to run for immediate shelter. It's not because I'm thinking about the war, it's just because my brain is on the constant lookout for danger, and it knows that when I hear that loud high pitched squeal, I have to run. I imagine if that teacher's trauma was severe enough, then the story is perfectly plausible. I say so from my own experience. War is not good for your mental health. Yes, I am in therapy.
I had a teacher the exact same way. He would duck under a desk sometimes when he heard a book fall flat on the ground. Kids would do it on purpose. They didn't understand as kids tho.
@Alex Worm I had one history teacher who was veitnam vet who refused to show any intense images or videos of war because he would start to shake if he was in the room so when they showed a movie or video of war a sub Or another teacher would take over. But I agree the story above sounds fishy.
Buncha degenerates in this reply section who's only extent of war they've seen was call of duty. Does it matter if it's copy pasted? This shit is real and if you don't believe it, stop shoving up other people's noses and get a life.
I had a vietnam vet as a math teacher too. He was a Navy pilot though. Being the clueless child I was I asked him what his favorite missions to fly were. "Milkruns" or non combat missions was his response. Fortunately I had the grace to not press the issue further, even though his response confused me until much later in life. I used to sit in his room during off periods and just chat with him. He eventually divulged that at one point his aircraft got damaged and his back seater couldn't eject. Heart breaking stuff.
@Evan Price I know dude,i can't believe the amount of trolls you get with nothing better to do than try and upset people and cry "Hack story" or "Bullshit" how would they know anyway,there are people who have done a lot worse in this world totally out of the blue.
@Mangos28 I've actually had my self I used to twitch when just a leaf blew past I was like that for a long time I'd jump and twitch at the slightest thing. That stopped after about 7 months but I'm still not very good in situations that to others would be easy and often take things too seriously,sorry it took me so long to reply,i bet you have to route out your comment now lol. 👍
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@Ra'aya Swidler Ok my friend,i myself got my face badly smashed in when at a party after most of the people had left I was held there at knifepoint and he kept punching me in the face,it was horrible I honestly thought this guy was going to get bored with that and kill me,he had the knife in one hand and was hitting me with the other. I couldn't stop twitching for months after,it could be anything like a leaf blowing past or something,i was like that for months after,a nervous wreck. When I said he may have been thinking about it when the book dropped in the story it was just a thought really rather than a deep analysis of it. I'm glad you're in therapy for your troubles pal and hope you find piece with your demons.
@Alex Worm This sounds true I had a similar experience with my teacher who in middle school thought a football was a grenade and yelled GRENADE GET DOWN! to the football team and to us as middle schoolers pretty much was all we talked about when his name was mentioned and it was funny as hell back then but now that i’m a little older and realize he had ptsd attack feel really sorry for him. His name was Coach Schwabb.
A scene much like you described happened with my math teacher back in 1992. It was heartbreaking, confusing and we didn’t know how to respond appropriately. I’m thankful that the school principal and counselor took time to educate us. It was the first time I truly understood PTSD and the complexities of trauma. I now work in mental health and specialize in trauma.
Definitely not Mr. Holmen, and I don't have a similar story, but I also had a math teacher in the 7th grade who was a Vietnam vet. My teacher was a Mr. Schwartz.
Not the same as war per se but I knew a girl that was in the library at Columbine. The girl next to her was her friend and was shot in the face with a shotgun. They initially thought she got some pellets too but we were told they had to pull pieces of her friend's skull out of her. The following 4th of July we we're all outside waiting for a nearby fireworks show. Once they started popping off she fell to the ground and absolutely lost it. Screaming, kicking, just absolutely panicked. I've never seen anyone that terrified before or after and hope I never have too. Last I saw on social media she has 2 failed marriages and isn't close to her 3 kids. She dresses really dark and goth. Not that that's a bad thing but I think that event defines every moment of her life now. She doesn't seem to be able to have close relationships.
@Celestial Emissary this is late but my mom loves the 4th of July. Her birthday is the 5th and we always go in a big family trip for it. However, she deployed to Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Iraq because she was in the army for 29 years. One year (and this was after she retired) on the 4th we obviously popped fireworks. My mom freaked out and thought it was gun shots.
Doesn’t matter how long it’s been, ptsd can catch you out of nowhere…
This was so hard to watch. My dad was a Vietnam veteran. He never, Ever; talked about his time in theatre. He only ever told me about his time in Okinawa, during R&R. He was always disciplinarian, but very clear with his intent. When asked about the war he used to say:"I don't want to talk about that". But over the years, his nightmares and flashbacks became worse, and more intense. In the last 2 years he started having issues with his mobility, falling out of bed, tripping , complications from diabetes excaberated the symptoms. My heart broke the day he called me up and said : "I wake up, and I want to jump out of a helicopter, and kick somebody's ass, but all I can do is go shopping". He died July 16, suddenly, but peacefully, thank the most high, but damn; that was heavy.
Sorry for your loss. I can't imagine coming home and having to live with that stuff for the rest of your life. I have studied Vietnam and many wars in general in depth because they interest me but Vietnam really is one of the most brutal there was. It is very sad a lot of the veterans never got the thanks they deserved either after enduring that chaos. I hope your dad is somewhere better and at peace. And I wish I could thank him for his service. Bless you.
I'm sorry for your loss man. I understand what your dad was going through. I was in the Afghan War and I don't ever talk about it with my family/friends. It's unfortunate because even if you did talk about it, non-military people wouldn't understand either way. God bless you and your family dude. Your hero of a father can rest peacefully now.
As a combat vet myself, I can tell you that 99% of the war stories told by people are either fabricated or outright lies. The real stories seldom get told because we don't want to tell them. The only person I've ever discussed my combat experiences with is my girlfriend, and that was only after we'd been together two years and her asking me to share them, and even then I still omitted some details that I'll never talk about to anyone.
My condolences to you my YouTube friend. Hope your dad's at peace and up there looking down on you. I will 🙏 for you and your family. Even though alot of my countrymen got killed including civilians but I'm pretty sure your dad had not been part of the shady side of that war when it came to the release of the chemical weapons on enemy soldiers and also civilians which I find a crime against humanity. Suffice to say your dad is a hero and from the bottom of my heart thank him for fighting for our freedom and also fighting for democracy not only for the US or South Vietnam but for the whole world. Even though it didn't end the way we wanted it to at least your father did the right thing in the end no matter what people say Sorry for the long essay.
@Prison Mike with high-speed internet access Have you ever considered writing down about it? It helped me with my own (little in comparison) trauma, to write everything, details about what happened, what I saw, what I heard, what I understand and how I felt. It was my way of saying "now I can forget about it, It's all written and won't be erased no matter what". It forces you to organize memories, understand the most of what happened, and put words over it. You don't even need to show it to somebody (I didn't), just write it down, write corrections if needed, then let it be. Either people will find it after war, or you can eventually show it in case of (therapist, etc).
Plus, those personnal stories and intimate point of views are goldmines for historians.
@EnriHoward all veterans of war. Everybody needs a soldier during wartime but don't want to deal with the aftermath. Soldiers are asked to do horrible things and suffer both mentally & physically in the name of duty, patriotism, whatever. Yet when the gunfire stops, both society & government sweep them away to be left ignored, belittled & ultimately mistreated.
Thankfully there are good veteran support groups as well as companies the offer veteran discounts to help them along.
Look at what "they" did about Afghanistan. Flubbed the whole thing and then the VA has the audacity to send out a patronizing email telling me and veterans that our anger and concerns "may be misplaced" Hint: they're not
As someone who also has C-PTSD hearing loud noises such as a siren are HELL, you panic so hard and feel very much under threat. I am sad they did not consider this.
There should be programs where they have therapy and job placement. I’ve always thought stable veterans should have first try for police, firefighter, and EMT jobs. But, those with PSTD deserve a lot of help. It’s hard to imagine the fear, paranoia, and anxiety 🥲
@EnriHoward I think the guy means the country needs to do something about the mental health of soldiers after war. They need to be helped, they need to be transitioned into society smoothly. They need to make them happy and avoid such depressive and insane experiences
The way the US generally treats all of its citizens is fucking disgusting. Sending young men and women to die in imperialist for profit wars and then shitting on them when they get back home is just the cherry on top.
There is a great documentary here on youtube about young veterans returning home from vietnam addicted to heroin, and they get no support whatsoever. Its either methadone or a 7 day detox and then they get kicked out on the street again, treated like trash. One guy tells a story that he started using heroin in vietnam after being forced to kill a kid, and he used heroin to cope with the trauma. Its just really sad but its a great documentary.
It is more about the way countries lie to people to go to war for them, about how they are ''protectin'' their country, protecting ''freedom'', if you are going to war by force (conscription) i do feel sorry and its not the person's fault but if you willingly decided to go to war i just can't feel nothing for that person.
@Israel Groysman i am talking about the US, i didn't knew they were invaded by Vietnam, or iraq, or Syria, or Afghanistan, how could they get imprisoned if they never got invaded in the first place? Ah yes the US invaded hmnnnn interesting
@henrique andrade you said "countries" plural. Nevertheless, your claim was that it is immoral to protect your freedom, and that you cannot feel anything let's say to policeman who is bullying a criminal. Well it is his job, to make freedom work he has to punish bad guys, and so it is on the international level: for Americans to have freedom you must punish bad guys. Or you will not have any freedom.
@Jeff Redfern i was probably working, but you shouldn't say such words to anyone left-wing, they think it's fascism. But yeah, i'll check that with management on Sunday and then report to you, if there were days off.
@Kieran Casey The US has a large number of veterans because it has an overall population of over 333 million people. What, did you expect the same number of US vets as somewhere like England? If so that's incredibly incorrect.
The US has approximately 6 times the number of people England does yet the American veteran population is less than 10 percent. The English veteran population is also around 10 percent yet for some reason, you don't have this same idea of veterans in other countries as you do of America.
Your comment really shows how mislead you are to make this appear to be a uniquely American thing and for you to speculate on "neverending conflicts" as the sole reason.
The fact that your crap was a serious thought that you typed out is despicable.
Some of it's veterans, not all. My nephew was in the air force for three years after joining voluntarily, spent all his time paving runways in the middle of bum fuck nowhere in South Dakota, never saw a day of combat, called to duty, ect before being discharged. He has no issue getting his VA benefits for school, housing loans, ect. Meanwhile my father was drug into the Vietnam war against his will, got a few weeks of training and sent overseas unprepared as a medic to get shot and blown up by a landmine and had a metal plate in his head and severe PTSD. Even after all that he was only allowed to leave once the army decided his time was up. He had to fight for years to get his VA benefits leaving my family poor in the meantime because neither him or my mom could work since they were disabled. Even after he died in 2011 my mother still has to fight to this day to get the VA off their asses and get the spousal benefits my father earned. It seems the worse off you are after you serve in the military, the worse the government treats you.
"I am glad to be getting out of this place" genuinely caught me so off guard. His body had returned from Vietnam but his spirit and mind lay with his lost comrades. I sincerely hope he is in a better place and that the affected family was able to receive closure
Netflix needs to hire this man to do true crime series, and pay him well. The storyline, production quality, fact checking, and information delivery is the best I’ve seen.
@áine is okay netflix does have a crime section and as an example let's take forensic files. They use all sorts of scientific and objective evidence to prove things about the accused and the victims. However netflix also has mostly social justice crap that logically goes against these same things. Dobt forget netflix is run by cringy activists with with agenda to push. Imagine if the TRAs watched one of the "how we identified this skeleton to be a white female" episodes and has it removed like they did to bill Nye's episode about probability
Netflix is probably already picking stories from this channel. Chris Watts documentary (debuted 1yr ago here) is coming out next week!!! Wouldn’t be surprised by more to come.
I'd rather not want to see Netflix adding dramatic action movie music with enough flashing lights to give someone an epilepsy attack just to appeal to immature audience who can't sit on their ass for 3 minutes without being overwhelmed with every type of stimulus possible
I’ve been saying that same thing for a while. This dude is a hidden YouTube gem. Seriously, his talent for this far exceeds that of your usual YouTuber. He is a genius Kubrick, Spielberg, or Lucas ect just waiting to be discovered.
The narrator doesn’t do every single thing, he’s just the incredibly talented narrator lol. They’re all amazing at what they do. Netflix doesn’t deserve them, they have enough money. This is fine.
Not taking anything away from what you said, but this is probably a whole team of people. The person talking does the narration afaik and probably not much else
Why dumbing down his content when he has over 1M loyal viewers on his channel and is entirely responsible for the creative direction of his work? Netflix sucks.
Fuck Netflix, who needs it! We don't need them to put a spin and restrictions to Jim's work. This is everything! He should get payed tho, I agree 100% bro
I hope you know that JCS is actually a team of people and that the narrator is a hired VO guy and doesn't have anything to do with the editing and research. Just trynna put credit where it's due is all!
I agree with that except, he and ALL successful (or potentially so) yt creators stay INDEPENDENT. The good will follow, rather then the good being the followers. Stay INDEPENDENT individuals.
I was just thinking of one of his videos and couldn't remember where I saw it, I almost checked netflix until I remembered it was actually YouTube and luckily I found it again by searching criminology lol
Lindsey R.3 : yeah man I agree with that, I just assumed he was professional from the production value an his voice, he sounds like a pro, would love to see him do British storys aswell, haven't seen any yet but I love this guy he does the story's justice 👍
Comentend then read comments lol, I didn't think of the fact you tube is free to watch but the guy would still get money from views likes an subs still on here no, but all original posting comment was getting at is this guy is really professional an I'm guessing by his voice that he's a big earner with a good job an he enjoys doing them as he's interested in psychology, I've heard of doctors with channels so you get all sorts, there is so many cases for this guy to do there's not enough hours in the day, I've only seen American ones on here, could be wrong, he was just appreciating the fact he's good at his craft
Which is why it may be touch. Studios and production companies want to feed us the frills and bells and whistles giving 1-hour shows with about 12 minutes of information.
Anyplace that would try to hire would have their own agenda and probably fuck things up. I hope he's making enough money on here because these are truly very interesting to watch.
If I'm not mistaken he also narrates some of the videos on a YT channel called "Audit the Auditors", which is also a well-done series. It's about police officers who seemingly make up their own laws during confrontations with American citizens.
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
Please no. Every single Youtube channel that gets contracts in TV or streaming services noticeably loses influence over their own material and style. Also, they stop posting quality videos on their own Youtube channel.
Netflix wouldn't be interested. Their interests are more congruent with sexualizing minor children in the name of "avant garde art" because it's authored by a black French woman
please do not. as soon as netflix gets its filthy hands on it, it'll be worthless. let the man do his stuff without interference and we'll keep getting brilliant content like this
no, keep him independent. This is a better platform for him. He works at his own pace with no contract or higher ups telling him what do or what show. He has complete control here on youtube. If he goes to Netflix, these videos would suck ass
If Netflix was to hire this guy they would totally taint his style and the very essence of what make his videos great. Netflix ruins most of everything they touch.
Unfortunately the reason these videos are so good is that the creator/narrator doesn't draw them out with unnecessary padding like Netflix would do. If Netflix were to snap this dude up, he would be forced to change his method from the one we all enjoy.
I think the narrator of JCS is NOT the guy who runs the channel... The narrator has his own channel, with hardly any subs, like a few thousand IIRC. Google it, that's how I found it. 'jcs narrator' or something like that
They could pay him to make a documentary about Jamal Kashoggi... That way, they would own the rights to it and they could chop the film up into little pieces to keep anyone from hearing what it had to say.
His masterpiece on the Jussie Smollette incident was pulled by youtube. Finest forensic psychology documentary ever produced. It outclassed anything Dateline, 20/20 or 60 minutes ever produced.
The guy in the videos is a contractor/YouTuber they pay to voice the videos. I don’t believe he has a criminal psychology background but I could be wrong.
Fact checking...not quite. The Battle of Hue took place in 1968 (not 1969) and was fought by the 1st Marine (not the 3rd Marine Division). I'm a huge fan of this channel but 2 incorrect facts in the first 4 minutes missed the mark. And yes I'm being that guy right now.
Just as someone who's been binge watching these ever since finally clicking on the Youtube recommended video (What pretending to be crazy looks like), I must say that this is the greatest video from your channel. Even though it is your least popular please understand that it was well received and that many viewers will appreciate content of this ambiguous and moderately sympathetic nature.
You nailed it. I’ve come back to watch this video a few times. It is the best on the channel, which says A LOT. My dad was a Vietnam vet, he had issues and died in prison in 2015. The similarities between my dads story and Andy’s story are profound. I find it so moving. This video has helped me understand my father, which is something I’ve spent my life trying to do.
Completely agree with you. This video is not only one of the best on the channel, but one of the best pieces of content I've ever consumed. The first thing I did when I heard about youtube taking down some his videos was frantically check if this was still up. The fact that it's the least watched is so funny to me, such a hidden jewel.
This is truly one of the saddest true crime stories I’ve ever heard. The music chosen is such a chilling touch. I felt sick to my stomach when I saw that live dash footage. It was like I was watching it happen and kept whispering to myself ‘ oh no’ thinking it could be stopped.
@Priyanshu Sharma lmao, the police completely screwed over that poor soon to be mother, multiple times, by their desire to "get revenge" of the guy that got one of their own. They saved that murderers life and they have no one to blame but themselves. If they'd have done their jobs, even after the vicious assault, and got him medical attention when he asked, he probably would have got the death penalty.
I know it’s been said, but the way you seamlessly weaved those cases and narrative together was a goddamn chef kiss of a work of art. What a great documentary
@Christopher As if THAT is all that makes what I said true. It's the deplatforming, the banning, the censorship and the pushing of fallacious narratives. Are you really that clueless? Youtube gave themselves a "free speech award" a while back. Hilarious.
@Rand Althor free speech means the government can't censor your speech doesn't mean a company can't censor and dictate what you can say on their platform are you really that clueless?
Actually that's not correct. You can click it countless times I til it load's. If you wait til the video loads and then click it, you only have to do it once.
@Christopher true but big tech basically has a monopoly, they should at the minimum be considered a publisher since they want to pick and choose what to have on the site. Then they would be responsible for the naratives they put out (like when YT removed videos saying corona came from a lab, and are now stating the same thing they banned people for). And big tech has a big influence on new legislation. So to simplify it down to "private company can censor what they want" is very dangerous.
@Rand Althor violates? No it's litterally stated that they can dictate what is said on their platform. It's said that the government can't dictate your speech
@Rand Althor there has already been a documented court case that the first amendment doesn't apply to private companies including YouTubers that's not a "neoliberal response" that's just factual
I was asked twice. Frankly, I was somewhat offended by youtube treating me as a little child. But then I learned from the comments that many where asked three times. So no I’m a bit offended that youtube, for some reason, does not think my feelings need to be as protected as some other people’s...
@Rand Althor honestly facts though. And you cannot forget to mention Facebook, Instagram, and pretty much every social media site! Hell you can’t even call someone ugly or an idiot on social media without getting your account suspended or the comment deleted. Like seriously? The funny think is a simple umloot (e.g. ügly or idïot) easily slips through their algorithms. They hinder freedom of speech and the 4th amendment.
So YT asks twice to view this video. I wonder if it has anything to do with the black on black homicide that is highlighted involving the deaths of a black woman & her unborn baby along with a black female police officer by a BLACK male? Makes you wonder? 🤔
@pat the rick Stephanie Harlowe is fab. The style of video differs to this, however the content and the detail she goes into is great. Highly recommend
If big tech companies control the means of communication while they are acting as agents of government then by effect they are acting as government. This is what technofascism is all about. Government using corporations to enact policy and vice versa
@Christopher Read section 230 of the communications decency act. They get tax breaks and immunity from liability ONLY if they act as a neutral platform.
@Rand Althor do you think a shop owner has to sell you a bottle of coke if you violate his no shirt no shoes policy? And one more question, do you know what a publisher is or does?
I've seen this channel like 5 days ago .... he needs to post more videos... after this one I'm done..... and I'm really fucked up now... but I use to too
Not a joke after i clicked i wanted to watch it about the 20th time i just started mashing......so it prob asked me about 50+ times if i wanted to watch it before it let me in
I just thought that! I’m exiting this chat before any spoilers heehee… love how it all started with what faking crazy looks like and led to binging the rest of the videos!
@loxxxton poxxxton pls send credit card details for further verification, oh yes, and social security number tyty
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This explain why this video have fewer views than others youtube is controlling this channel number of views i hope this doesn't affect the quality of newer videos because basiclly youtube right now is tolding the creator what to post and what to not and if the channel uploads something that doesn't fit with youtube point of view the video would not being shown to anybody which is a huge waste of the creator time and effort
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
Yeah this is the first time I've ever seen that and It was basically reassuring me that the video is just built different. I just said, "I've literally never been so sure with any of the tens of thousands of videos that I've watched."
I don’t see how this one is worst than the others. It is sad and maybe sad on another level? But why is this one more restricted than ones with sexual assault?
@David B. Nope. Most of the time I'm on Bitchute and odysee. I do still log into youtube while I'm taking a shit, just to comment like I did. It's not hard.
@General Tso I thought it was a glitch too!!! Then when it finally began playing, it wasn't showing any of my other recommended videos or anything. I thought this video broke my phone 😂 JCS out here giving us the severe content we didn't know we needed!
@Rand Althor YouTube gave you the freedom to watch millions and millions of videos for free. I can tell you’re a libertarian because your rage is misplaced and your arguments are infantile.
@The Bass Asha'man Thx Eli! I picked the name because it's so awesome to find other people that recognize it and love the series as much as I do !!! have a good one man.
Well that just means it has sensitive or disturbing content. It doesn’t mean it will be good, it’s just that the subject matter is a bit tough and not recommended for people who maybe suffer from PTSD or other ailments, or are minors.
I THOUGHT THIS IS ABIUT ANDY B WHY IS IT SUDDENLY 2 STORIES AND ONE ABOUT SOME GUY KILLING HIS WIFE WTFFFFFFF I DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE I JUST WANTED THE ANDY B PART
When I originally watched it when it was posted last year there weren’t those warnings. I wonder if it happened recently due to the sudden influx of many new JCS viewers.
now i`m scared to watch, are there horrific pictures? so i know, where to skip^^ but man, i start this vid already anyway, this vids are too well made^^
@MC3 News MCOC Concierge how are you not doing to mention “that chapter” Jim and Mike are the only two channels I’ve watched every video multiple times
To everyone crying in the comment section about the first amendment and free speech:
Free speech only concerns the government, not private businesses. That’s a good thing. You don’t want the government telling you what to say.
As for private businesses, it is also acceptable if they regulate the type of speech. If you have a shop that has employees screaming the n word every time they see a black person, that will hurt their business. If you’re a capitalist, you shouldn’t mind if someone’s free speech is encroached upon by a private business, because they should have the right to choose who they hire, who shops there, etc… provided it’s not attacks against protected classes.
@Cole444Train Being censored and deplatformed for political views IS a violation of our natural rights. THAT is what youtube has been doing for the last few years.
Remember the wild west days of YouTube, where people would curse their faces blue and post the nastiest content, and the entire platform was basically that and copyrighted music over webcam footage?
Now YouTube is like "are you SURE that you want to watch a well produced documentary?"
That's what threw me off because when you have an account you would think that it would have your first date so that they would know you are above the age of 18 but I'm 39 and it asked me twice
@ollehkacb it's like YouTube was asking, "hey so this is pretty gruesome and should probably be viewed by somebody who is of age, are you sure you want to watch this?" then you click yes then it pops up again "are you positive?" and then you click yes and then the third time it would be like "are you absolutely positively sure?" and then you click yes.
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@augi a 'Big Tech' is comprised of different private companies, who share no collective responsibility. That's not remotely what a monopoly is. You talk about Big Tech like it's a monolith. Which is a misinformed opinion frequently peddled in conspiracy circles and certain ideologically driven media sources. Primarily because those circles are already willfully misinformed, and therefore apply a much lower standard of critical thinking to claims, and have an inherently limited understanding of complex systems.
@Rand Althor I don't understand the correlation lol. Giving a warning / asking if you'd like to see something that might offend someone, then being allowed to see it when you confirm that you'd still like to proceed doesn't sound like any tyrant actions on their part / lack of freedom on your part.
@Zach Ryan That's weird, I've never had that, I use my phone to connect to my tv, it asked me 2 time on my phone then asked me to confirm once on the tv. Realistcly that's only 1 time...
@Rand Althor it’s not a rights violation if going on the website is voluntary. you obviously have the right to speak in any way that you want, but their right to regulate what happens in their OWN website triumphs your right to speak freely, because you voluntarily went into the website. it would be different if youtube regulated your speech at your own home, but this speech is on their website
@Rand Althor you should’ve figured this out by me using voluntarism as an argument lmao. neolibs are opposed to voluntary interactions and transactions.
@Kieran Casey nobody is ever "let" to have freedom. One must take it, like we did from the brits. And then one must safeguard it, as we have certainly NOT.
@Christopher kinda true tho this is history plain and simple and a lesson of how vets are treated after times of war and the help that could prevent things like this, how are we to learn from mistakes when they are censored and hidden from us
@Rand Althor we don’t have inherent rights to freedom of speech as humans. And private companies can do pretty much whatever the fuck they want on their own platform, whether it’s ethical or not doesn’t matter
@Red Ranger Wrong. The US is built upon the doctrine of Natural Rights. Read up on John Locke. "Natural rights are those that are not dependent on the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and are therefore universal and inalienable (i.e., rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws)." Don't be a slave. Neither "private company" nor state actor can infringe on inalienable rights. Read the declaration of independence with the understanding that rights enumerated within are NOT GRANTED by man and can't be taken away either.
The government did fail Andy. They asked him to fight which he did with honor, then when his usefulness was over, they dumped him.
But as sad as Andy's story is, That poor officer was 22 freaking years old. He was still a baby! He had barely lived yet and he suffered a horrible death. The fear of his final moments will never leave my mind.
I absolutely agree; the government can't teach our citizens to kill other country's 22 year old babies and then discard them when they come home non-functional. The Officer is my son's age, he didn't do anything to deserve to die, as a Mother I wish someone got on that radio and told him to leave and they'll all catch the guy when back up arrives, there's no shame in backing down and saving your life.
The death of the officer was tragic yes, but so was the series of events that lead to it. If I recall correctly, conscription was used for the vietnam war, forcing millions of young men onto battlefields where I can guarantee many didn't necessarily want to. There's a good chance Andy and his brothers were forced into hell by the government's mistake that was the vietnam war. Ultimately, I blame the American government for their stupidity in handling the vietnam war, and even the sexism that lies within the current American conscription system (though I hear they may be passing a bill on that to make it more equal) in forcing so many young men, many of whom probably didn't want to go to war into terrible circumstances of their own stupid design, and then leaving them in the dust after they used them. If the government wasn't so dumb with all this war stuff, so many lives could've been saved, on and off the battlefield. I am willing to bet that the tragic killing of that officer wouldn't have occurred if the government hadn't royally screwed the soldiers they forced to fight years prior. I think Andy still holds some responsibility for his actions, but it is certainly diminished.
Unfortunately Andy was probably forced to commit acts just as bad during the war. It makes sense why he felt he could kill the guy, yet not be the typical heartless criminal mind. He simply was used to it whether he liked it or not.
@Ash N He was obviously delusional. He seemed wacky but when he saw the officer make his call he absolutely flipped out and screamed who are you calling. Right afterwards he really started in on the Go ahead and kill me stuff. It was very interesting to see how he really did leave his head wide open to be shot for sometime. However. After a few seconds , just like the narrator said, a switch flipped and he went into kill mode. The officer never had a chance. Between his rifle and experience, that poor kid barely a year on the force was done for. The worse part is I think he was running back to his car when the cop shot at him again. Thats when he turned and fired away. This time finishing him with a head shot.
I've seen the unedited video and thankfully , this version omits the cops horrible high pitched screams each time hes shot. Its something you don't forget.
"That poor officer was 22 freaking years old. He was still a baby! He had barely lived yet and he suffered a horrible death."
Coincidentally, the average age of those who served in Vietnam was twenty-two. Brannan was twenty-one. Nearly sixty thousand 'babies' needlessly died. Peculiar, isn't it? I suppose it must be true-- that a single death is a tragedy; thousands are a statistic.
The government didn't "fail Andy". He was awarded a 100% disability rating which is over 3 grand per month, and as a disabled veteran myself I can tell you the VA has a mental health department at every hospital (and some outpatient clinics), and telemedicine allows a veteran to be seen at home, or any place with a wifi signal, by a mental health doctor through a webcam. Vets also have access to pretty much every medication available to Americans, including meds for psych issues. Yes the US could always do more to help vets, particularly combat vets, but responsibility still lies with the veteran to seek help if they need it. I'm saying this as someone who receives medical assistance from the VA, and I can't expect them to hunt me down for it. It's on me to take the initiative.
The final moments of the officer yelling "Put the gun down!" resonated with true fear.. I'm here for the psychological aspect, rewatching and damn some stuff you only get by rewatching.
what's more, you can tell he was one of the "good" apples. dutiful, respectful, and not just a trigger happy moron on a power trip. he clearly wanted to resolve the situation without bloodshed. it's just a major tragedy for everyone involved.
@porfirij The issue with police isn't about "bad apples" or "good apples" the issue is police being allowed to do horrible things and get off with a paid suspension, and on the rare occasions where they are removed from the force and we are told they can never be cops again, police unions just have those records expunged when it's time to renegotiate contracts. When people try to force some kind of change after yet another example of police brutality or murder, they may charge the individual cops in that specific case so people that don't see the big picture will think progress has been made.
If anyone actually cares about the lives of individual officers, they should be supporting the protestors. They usually just care about the ideaology behind it, usually from a lifetime of brainwashing.
My grandpa still cries when he talks about Vietnam and he’s one of the toughest dudes I’ve ever met. Always makes me sad. His best friend never made it out
All around, this was an absolute tragedy. The only “bad guy” here (in the Andrew B. case, that is) was the impact of what transpired in Vietnam and how it affected a veteran who didn’t receive the true mental health care needed. Whether it be through the fact mental health was poorly understood back then, or through the fact that honestly? I don’t think there IS a truly effective coping mechanism after experiencing and witnessing such devastation. It’s one thing to see someone die, it’s one thing to murder another. But to live a life we consider “normal” to adulthood, and then suddenly one day you’re trained and expected to compartmentalize your entire understanding of human life as you know it. To be able to see the people before you as targets to be neutralized, yet understanding they are truly an enemy ready to do the same to you, go into an active war zone where you’re constantly waiting and preparing for the next attack, watch those of your surrounding team you build bonds with be killed right before your eyes in horrific ways, and then just… return home carrying the weight of all of that. I mean, fuck dude. Truly try and put yourself in their shoes for just a moment. They’re grieving those they lost, dealing with survivors guilt, all the while they’re fighting with themselves with the fact they killed others in those same ways. Who had families and friends, who are grieving the same way, who were fighting for what they believed was right (whether it be a belief that is corrupt, or not). The only justification given being it was what they had to do… Having to constantly compartmentalize those people as targets for the rest of their lives to cope. Could you imagine how that affects their understanding of everyone around them? Then the constant affect of what it does to your body and how it functions to constantly be ready for an attack, yet knowing you’re out of that place and it’s safe… But even still THEN having the news constantly broadcast the tragedies surrounding us in our own backyards to validate that constant state of fight or flight. And all of this just being the tip of a horrific iceberg of trauma being dealt with every single day and then being expected to come home and enjoy morning pancakes and coffee, or family and friends get togethers, or the grind of a daily, stress filled job…
Our nation really doesn’t give our veterans the treatment they deserve… But yet, how are we supposed to? Those of us that haven’t been in that situation or deal with that exact trauma couldn’t possibly begin to ever fully understand that trauma endured and being endured each day
I truly wish we’d form better mental health care for PTSD (and in absolute general, a better mental health care system for all). And I truly hope that the groups formed by other veterans and soldiers who come together and reach out to extend that feeling of understanding to other veterans and soldiers, letting them know they are not alone in the fight for their well-being, and that they are understood, recognized, and validated… I just truly hope one day soon these groups are given the absolute respect, honor, and publicity they deserve.
I never experienced war. Yet, when I visited the massgraveyards from ww2 allied soldiers from the beach-landing, saw that they died on landing day, as very young lads... I couldnt help but shed tears. Those poor souls. This goes to all soldiers anyways.
In most cases its a 'we stand as enemies, we fall as brothers' thing imho. fucking shame
There's an interesting psychological take on this assumption by an Aussie special forces operator/doctor Dan Pronk. He terms it 'post traumatic growth'. Perhaps easier said than done but everything is it not within the consciousness? The interview with Dan is on YT.
Well here in Africa I've met people who are fairly adjusted members of society after Civil wars. Very few ive seen that are messed up. Although they ALL don't like talking about it so we generally avoid that conversation.
The fact is most soldiers who've experienced combat DO come back as sane, well-functioning members of society. Those who don't tend to have been poorly adjusted before they experienced combat. Having PTSD is not a get out of jail free card for murder. The M'Naghten rules specify that the person must not have been aware that what he was doing was wrong in order to be found not guilty by reason of insanity.
My mum died, daughter and best friend Jack my dog along with my grandparents within a year. My doctor said it maybe ptsd. That was my hell. Just saying. I am broken.
GXF Andre - we do it with black Americans. Unsurprisingly, black folk living in the inner city have significantly higher rates of ptsd than other populations due to the traumas the black community is exposed to, and with much fewer institutional resources to cope.
I served in the marines from 03-07 3 tours, two to Iraq and the last one in Afghan. The only thing I've developed was Survivors guilt and Knee issues. I wasn't diagnosed with anything else. Everyone experiences trauma differently.
Some how my Dad came home from WWII without being all messed up. I've known hundreds of Vietnam war veterans that came home & didn't lose their shit during my 20 yr US Army career. War is hell; but, not everyone loses their mind and most become well-functioning members of society just fine.
Of course. It's justified that someone would be arrested for these actions regardless of how mentally unwell and out of control they are, they still did what they did, but they need to be given a lot of help whilst serving a sentence, so they become less dangerous to themselves and to others. They need that help to be maintained if they get back out too. Very sad. War shouldn't exist.
Mr. SkyJack I appreciate your point of view and experience. I also greatly appreciate your acknowledgment of the fact that everyone processes trauma differently.
My pop came back from Nam and functioned just fine. His highschool friend was a Marine at Khe Sahn who witnessed his entire unit die. Other than being a very quiet man with an odd sense of humor, he made a very good life for himself. My first girlfriends dad was a riverboat crewman, was the sole survivor of a VC ambush and had to survive for two weeks or longer in the jungle, evading capture and lives a decent life. As the saying goes, individual results may vary.
@JDave Foster not everyone has seen the same things and not everyone will have same consequences just because they were in a war. did you see the same video as us? did that man look sane to you? did you think he had any control of what he was doing?
@EmperorJuliusCaesar That wasn't the point. A society that refuses to believe in healing for individuals who have experienced trauma is not any wiser than a society that doesn't believe in mental pain
It rewires your entire nervous system and only gets worse if left untreated properly. It’s not a get out of jail free card but people have to understand sometimes people cannot help it when a flashback is severe.
Not an average person, no. Something like 1% of the population is stoic enough to fight on the frontline without going cuckoo. Which is plenty of people to make an army out of, but who's gonna bother with the rigorous psychological screening?
@Jokse J sure. Tell that to the people that were there before America got there. We probably made it worse, but it was a hellhole of death long before our troops set foot there.
What you CAN’T do is keep creating this hell for hundreds of millions of people around the world by invading their countries! Every US government since the end of WW2 is a war criminal!
He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged
@parametalhead so invading other sovereign nation states (over a dozen since WW2) and killing millions of civilians for no other reason than political gain (NONE of these invaded nations posed ANY direct danger to US citizens) - is not a war crime???🤦♂️
@parametalhead ok, so Hitler, according to you, wasn’t a war criminal, as he simply did what he had to (in accordance with, to some extent manufactured by propaganda, feelings/emotions of his nation) for political gain.. I doubt many would agree, but that’s your rightful (miseducated and propaganda induced) outlook on the world.. Hope you realize, that judging by your comments and replies, you would’ve been one of the people who supported the Nazis in th 1930s Germany 🤷♂️
While I agree with you to a degree, most Vietnam vets, amazingly, came back and returned into society, becoming law-abiding, contributing citizens. I know many of them personally. Of course, the war scarred them forever. But they got back to living as normal a life as they could. A certain number of them simply couldn't adjust.
@robby lebotha 11 months old yet I find the observation interesting, " Well here in Africa I've met people who are fairly adjusted members of society after Civil wars. Very few ive seen that are messed up. Although they ALL don't like talking about it so we generally avoid that conversation. "
I believe this is different; Civil wars affect the entirety of the population. All and everyone can relate to the trauma and experience, everyone has to work on improving on what has happened. With the Vietnam war it must be different: a war half the globe away, not on home soil; you and select few of the population are drafted to fight in the war. When you return home, the overwhelming majority still lead cushy lives incomparison to the hell on earth that the soldiers experienced. Meanwhile, the cushy people only experienced parts of it (likely censored) on TV, narrated over with propaganda mixed in of victory.
Then they are sent home after the tragedy, and are treated no better for the service they did to the country - expected to go back to normal and act like nothing ever happened - despite the fact they witnessed their platoon leaders blow up into body fragments; losing families to suicide due to trauma, etc. Additionally, they can't talk to anyone about it - they're incredibly isolated from the experience - their family cannot relate unlike a civil war where every member of the population is brought into the conflict.
@Annie Frank yes give people with actual combat experience and send them in a stress zone with a weapon that they can really use and expect them to do the right thing
Honesty i feel like not all men are made for war, not everyone has a strong mind some come back okay some come back broken, this is why the draft hurt so many because it was forced servitude in war, it wasn’t people who wanted to go to war they were just obligated to
@IIIIII very true, but I don’t think you have to be “strong” to be okay after experiencing war, as that implies those who can’t are somehow weak. I’d say it’s pretty normal to be broken after experiencing horrific violence firsthand.
stories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme aot of it.
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As soon as I saw the photo of Andy with his parents I said out loud, “Ahhhhhhhh…I know what case this is!”
This one definitely hits close to home, because as a person who has seen close combat in Afghanistan. I know what happens after having spent your formative years fighting in war.
We definitely do not receive the care and rehabilitation we need. It’s simply, “Thank you for your service, and good luck in your life.”
Wow. This one hits hard in the feels. My father and sister are vets (Vietnam and Iraq). The way the US treats it's vets (especially Vietnam) is appalling. Every single aspect of this video was so gut punch sad, no tragic. JCS did an amazing job putting this out there and keeping humanity intact while dropping hard facts.
Honestly, it's not the USA only, that is not treating it's vets like that... it's everywhere, it always has been, if you pay closer attention to people's stories from all over the world. This seems to be human nature, people easily forget, they do not appreciate what people in the past have done for them, and that is just the way it is... sadly.
This is probably the saddest case I’ve seen in this channel. :( Others were just straight up animalistic, showed lack of remorse, and deserving of sentence.
Here, none of them deserved what happened, not the police officer nor the war veteran. It’s disheartening how after the service the war veteran has rendered, he remained uncared for by the State.
And that poor dog, I can imagine how he loved his owner so much. 🥺
@James R. Davis He woulda gotten the death penalty if the other cops hadn't abused him so much. Either way his life is over, I only hope his time in prison is perpetually miserable.
@DeludoSui But both of the victims died to members of the same "race." You can't just apply racial motivation towards the victim side, and then not apply it towards the assailant.
As I just explained to my cat, the production quality on these are so amazingthat this is why we do not see one once a week. This shit takes work. Worth the wait.
I bet the cat didn’t say NOTHING. the cat is probably immune to the “ paws” technique that we have heard about in so many of these EXCELLENT videos JCS makes for us.
Wow. I love everyone in this comment section.🤘😂 I have conferred all your greetings and salutations to the cat in question, he sends his love and many happy returns on the day. Stay awesome guys. 💙
@FifinatorKlon oh honey don't worry about me I'm not sad. I'm doing quite well and so is my cat. Trust me not everybody is cut out to raise children, some of us just make excellent aunties and babysitters for our friends who need a night off here and there.🤘
@FifinatorKlon also....from this may I assume you have children, and are very fulfilled as a parent? If so, that's awesome. For all of you. I often feel like maybe not everyone should have children unless they're really psyched about it. That shits hard work. Someone's got to propagate the species, thank you for your service. 💜
@Ruth Johnson But you're not really alone, Ruth. My understanding is we are surrounded by dead people who love us or are at least indifferent. and there's that whole thing about guardian angels and stuff. So you can always say it to the ghosts. I do and that's when my cat usually looks warily at me. That's usually when I like to point out it's impolite to eavesdrop.
Honestly there are so many passion project channels on YouTube that I haven't consumed regular tv media in years. Other than a couple must see movies or shows I could care less. Independent free expression always beats a controlled idea.
@Plot Twist On the subject of that guy accusing me being childless, he's totally right! My choice LOL I respect people who choose to have children but I am not among them
Nothing wrong with choosing not to have children and yeah you're right he's probably an incel based on his vehement reaction to my casual childless state. Me thinks he dost protest too loudly 🤣
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@Plot Twist Aaaawwwww My sweet boy was overweight until recently so he's not judging, and it's all different with cats anyways. Let's go all old English on this and I will inform my cat that he is betrothed to your cat. May our kingdoms unite through this marriage of our Cats. 🏆🙏🥂⚜️👑
Edit.. his name is MEEP But technically that's Sir Meep
@Plot Twist hey Man kids are all good and stuff if you're totally into it. And if so, what could be better than a plot twist lol?! The beauty of all this is that we have these choices!! Hug
Ruth Johnson as someone who has a cat.. and said cat doesn’t give a damn about ANYTHING... get a dog. Dog/(s) are waaaay more interested in the quality of videos on this channel. Many head tilts (from my German shepherd) and several howls from my chow/husky. They 10/10 would recommend. 🐾 🐕
The cat definitely got the message better than many subscribers. But that doesn’t justify the fact that you share thoughts about psychology and criminology with your cat
I'm sure if he would start a Patreon we'd send him enough cash to put a team together to work on increasing the volume without sacrificing quality. Oftentimes, quality even goes up! LET US SHOWER YOU WITH CASH MISTER JCS GUY.
@sarita joshi I second this. We need more channels like this one that break apart psychoanalysis of subjects in this manner. It's entertaining and very informative.
@Random PC-User cats arent just psychopaths they are really nice and adorable and i can tell from this comment that you have never had a meaningful bond with a cat
I believe all media should be banned from covering high profile and socially charged court cases until the verdict has been passed. "Trial by media" is a real thing, and I believe reporters/news stations should be held to the highest and strictest ethical responsibility for the power they hold to sway public opinion, and even incite public violence.
In principle I agree with this notion, however I do immediately think of the circumstances where the media can/has played a role in finding the culprit. I guess you could argue the effectiveness given how many bunk calls they will get, but no doubt several cases have probably been solved directly because of the right person seeing the coverage at the right time to turn the investigation with a piece of information.
Lol I am not in favor of the media or police, this is just the way things are in the US. You guys are arguing against me, but I never posed an argument. Just stating fact.
Here in Australia we have a law like that. I don’t think it applies for all cases and I’m not sure what the criteria is for the law to be in effect but essentially in high profile cases the media is barred from covering it until a verdict has been given
@Amazing Supergirl the media may not influence the jury, but the media most definitely does affect the public, which can sway the jury - and the judge. Racial sensitive cases are especially prone/apt to sway the jury in spite of or sometimes even despite the evidence.
@NinjaPenguin76 Absolutely agree with you on that point. "America's Most Wanted" and "Unsolved Mysteries" were excellent programs which helped to crack some serious cold cases. And, there are news stories which have done the same.
All they have to say is “we were kidding, only an idiot would believe that we were being serious” and they can go and spread more false claims the next day.
After the rittenhouse case i would disagree. If there were no camras in that courtroom we wouldnt see how scummy prosecutors are. If we dont have video of the trial, then all we have to go on officially is the transcript, which isade by a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE.
We watched the footage of the shooting in my use of deadly force policy class at the University of Pittsburgh. Thank you for cutting it off before the casual viewer had to hear the officer’s gurgled cries and his last breathe before being mag dumped. It’s truly horrific but it’s a lesson to be learned in the end
My papa was in the Army during the Vietnam war. My parents dismissed his “stories” as nothing but incoherent old man speak, and made fun of him for telling the same ones over and over. As kids, we brushed it off too and boiled it down to papa being crazy. When I was old enough to understand the horrors of the Vietnam war, my papa’s mind had become even worse and his speech was even less coherent than before. Still, he sat down with me and relayed the most horrific moments of his life like he was reading from a book. Stories about his friends being blown to pieces just days after excitedly sharing what they were going to do when they returned home. Schools burned to the ground. Sexual misconduct driven by soldiers unto innocent Vietnamese civilians, and children being slaughtered in their homes while they slept. In one instance, my papa and a few of his fellow soldiers stood outside a camp while a young woman approached them speaking her native tongue. The guys kept trying to get her to stay back, at one point drawing their weapons in an attempt to at least get her to stop moving. Sobbing, she kept moving forward screaming something over and over, seemingly pleading for help. One of the soldiers took it upon himself to fire at the young woman, killing her almost instantly. Upon further investigation, they realized she was pregnant and freaked out. They buried her outside the camp and never said a word, and he still thinks about her every single day. He was returned home shortly afterwards after being blown up, leading to the loss of his right eye and use of his right leg. He still has pieces of shrapnel inside his body. His health is not doing so great these days, but he has lived as much of a comfortable life as he can since coming home from war. He still has bouts of anger and sadness and sometimes he forgets who we are entirely, but he’s doing the best that he can with what he has left.
@Apoc skinning and eating an animal to stay alive is a little different than seeing your friends get turned to mist and chunks in a split second though
@Apoc It's one thing to grow up in the wild doing those things. Humans back then were nothing like humans today. They were used to tough lives and hunting and honestly they weren't that much different from animals. Also hunting isn't comparable to war. Also also, what the person above me said☝️. So saying "cavemen didn't get ptsd from hunting so modern people surely can't get it from war." Isn't really a valid argument. It's comparing apples to oranges.
@W@tch Peace has never been more predominant over the last 100 years than ever in the history of humanity, and yet we have had over a hundred different major wars all over the world with two of them being global and having a 100million deaths/casualties combined, not to mention political deaths and others (ex. communism from the soviet Russian and Chinese Mao's count up an estimate of over 100million to 200million) and yet, peace has never been more predominant, the human mind can take much more than you think, it just depends on how you grow up to endure the future, to the medieval growing up boy seeing a dead body on his door step might have been common, so violence becomes a normal reality. Most of those ppl that went to Nam and came back mentality affected happened because they were taken from their healthy moderately lives and thrown to a hell hole war were they lived in constant fear, violence and drugs etc... Violence is in our nature as it is in every animal, so yeah man, your sarcasm does not make much sense, but ofc, its not good at all to have ppl die needlessly in either wars or whatever.
@JonesiBoy Beastmode Oh god, it’s one of those “Well, technically, if you put your mind in this very specific point of view, on a cosmic scale, when you play with the words a little bit” kids you always had in class.
@JonesiBoy Beastmode the enemies are other humans either forced into war or manipulated by their countries propaganda to go. Killing an "enemy" should be as traumatizing for a sane human as seeing people from their own country get murdered.
not true, its just not everyone can handle that. majority can handle it and a minority is even on the other end of the spectrum, they can not only handle but be their best in that situation. world isnt black and white
It's almost as if we've been indoctrinated to be unable to cope with it. Who would've thought. Keep drinking the kool-aid. Gotta ask though. Does it taste bitter?
@Jamie Murray day in and day out. The noise, the blasts, the constant anxiety, panic, fear and stress of dying, blown to pieces, getting caught alive tortured. No wonder the PTSD.
" Humans back then were nothing like humans today....honestly they weren't that much different from animals" humans have been anatomically the same for tens of thousands of years, same human just different circumstances. if any of us had been born 50,000 years ago we would fit right in
@Aurora Gil Death happens, every day. The fact that certain human minds can't seem to process it is a result of social conditioning; it starts at birth. Not my fault you can't comprehend that.
@James Bond We can process it very well, if it werent for that everyone would be depressed around their 50s because their parents likely already died. Fear of death is literally the reason why we are still here, all animals fear death and also suffer if they have lost another animal from their pack, thats been observed many times with many species, some even prefer to get eaten theirselves to safe the pack like meerkats. If youre talking about ptsd, its not the death that scars people, its the gore, the guilt and the loss of their comrades that haunts returning soldiers. Most soldiers have already lost at least someone in their lives but they did still go to war because they had never seen how random quick and gory death actually is. No mentally stable person would feel fine after seeing the battlefields of afghanistan.
Not true. Ppl have been fighting wars since... probably since 2 differtent tribes met each other. War is probably the most impactful aspect of human history, it's responsible for big part of human progress and it will never really go away. It's only modern ppl who are sheltered like this
Yeah, they are supposed to kill each other using barehands and sharp knives instead. Dude, humans have been killing each other like animals, forever, much worse that anything that we currently hear about in our recent documented history. The onky difference now, is that some have been recorded on films and photos taken. Humans have always been the most savage and vicious animals that ever existed.
@Apoc that was for a purpose. a purpose we are naturally conditioned to through genetics as hunter gatherers. nobody knew the purpose of this war then, and now it's even grayer than before.
@Apoc no it can't because we don't think like animals purely on instinct, we have emotions. they didn't know why they were there, they knew they were invading and saw death and destruction constantly. wolves don't get PTSD
@prom night Dumpster baby those animals typically dont develop the same emotional connections that humans do. The monkey that kills another does not suddenly become aware of all the other monkeys that death will hurt. Plus what we used to be doesnt matter, we live in comfort and safety and being exposed to that shit is such a juxtaposition its no wonder people collapse.
That's why we citizens fight the wars while the real people in government pushing them sit comfy from home. I'm not saying they dont see bad things but being there is completely different. Theres a song that comes to mind "why dont presidents fight the war,why do they always send the poor" System of a DOWN. Or black sabbath war pigs video comes to mind. An with how soft society is today an the fact people hate thier own homeland...if a war broke out,expect a draft because ain't nobody going to be signing up. 911 was a big part of boosting our military numbers. An then those same people who signed thier life away to protect end up guarding poppy fields. Still to THIS DAY...an the opium or heroin problem got 50x larger after we went to war. The numbers do not lie. An eith a fresh pipeline to Afghan heroin....china felt cut out so then boom fentanyl floods the US. Mostly manufactured in CHINA.
@arctictimberwolf i personally dont believe god exists but no big deal all good. And the animal thing is based on observed behaviours and i suppose a level of assumption, much as you made an assumption about not knowing whats in our own hearts. But yeah we're all here to have a nice days and talk its cool
@Mitchell Hall , Hmmm, well, played, k, talk, I do not assume Anny Thing, I know exactly the thoughts of each of your hearts. I know that you believe not that God turned those two skyscrapers to dust in mid air before the eyes of the whole world with the Power of His Word, but I did And you are gonna have to live with that... 1-nothin'... your move!
@BTS: Behind The Screen Yes, I think a "caveman" could do okay in the present aside from the incredible culture and technology shock. You should study a bit more about human life 10k years ago, or even double that. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions about it, judging by this thread.
I actually disagree. Humans have warred with each for our entire history. That being said, our minds never evolved as fast as the technology that we developed to do so. War fighting is much more violent and brutal in the modern era. Men never spontaneously exploded from landmines a thousand years ago
Why are people arguing here assuming PTSD is somewhat new though? As if its caused by the way wars are fought today and not simply by overwhelming stress caused by war, or more specifically constant fight for your life alongside your brothers in arms dying left and right.PTSD was common among soldiers in EVERY war. Soldiers returning from Afganistan to the US got PTSD, WW2 soldiers got "combat fatigue", WW1 soldiers got "shell shock", and all the way back to (for example) Roman soldiers fighting in their legions were described in many texts as victims of PTSD-like symptoms, and since Romans had a tendency to rip everything off the Greeks, Alexander the Great and his soldiers were often described as having overwhelming mental issues due to battle related stress. And knowing how Greeks ripped off Egyptians in so many ways I wouldn't be surprised if their soldiers had the same problems but I never got into Egyptian history so I can't tell much about that.
@Logan Taylor no it is not. Now they use drones, helis, rockets, so for the most part they don't see their enemies dying in person. It was much more brutal and violent in ancient and medieval times, when you had to mutilate someone's limbs, and you couldn't kill an enemy quickly.
@Vyas Chady That’s not the majority tho. We can pinpoint the reasons why a human would have satisfaction in torturing or killing humans or animals. It’s something wrong with their brain. Humans aren’t just naturally sadistic. Or perhaps not even something physce related. Some humans killed each other because religion told them others of different faiths were the enemy.brainwashed and manipulated. Most people just want to live a happy peaceful life
Nothing has changed biologically, unless you mean to imply that modern diets and environments have made humans less capable of basic emotional regulation. You might have a point there, as mammals in high concentrations tend to go crazy and do things that are maladaptive for spreading genes. But extrapolating Calhoun's behavioral sink to modern cities is a bit of a stretch. Tokyo certainly isn't more dangerous than Detroit, and the population densities couldn't be further away from each other.
Also comparing cavemen to animals is interesting, because it's almost inverted from typical meaning. It's generally regarded that poor emotional regulation and weak impulse control is a sign of animalistic behavior. Wild dogs will scarf down any scrap of food they can get because impulse control means starvation there. Cavemen seem to be excellent at it though, using your hypothetical, because they don't show emotion from their friends being killed (although this is demonstrably false; cavemen had burial rites and funerals just like we do) or whatever. On the other hand, moderns complain about what previous peoples might have considered a "memento mori", "shikata ga nai", or "damned shame" depending on the language.
I'd argue it's more cultural, in that modern Anglosphere culture is less stoic and accepting of life as it comes than it was in the past, but whatever you want to believe.
But PTSD and such is usually a sign of poor emotional regulation and probably has demonstrable neuropsychological markers, if not before, then certainly after. People who go through traumatic events without getting PTSD, which is most people (around 90% of women and 95-98% of men, by population average; it's probably closer to 60% and 80% in trauma populations), show larger hippocampi and amygdala volumes, which usually means that their brains have adapted to the trauma to give them greater emotional regulation. PTSD people have smaller or similar pre-traumatic volumes, so their brains didn't just not adapt, they could actually have shrunk. But such emotional brainlets are rare in general. Modern Anglo culture amplifies it because it's a hot topic button, but that's because modern Anglo culture latches onto things like this without being able to see the "other side of the hill", i.e. it compares itself to a mythical ideal instead of reality.
For all we know, moderns could be even more stoic and tough than cavemen, and PTSD in Anglo population groups is at its lowest rates biologically possible!
@dead yami Yeah, cavemen were a lot better prepared mentally and psychologically for the rigors of living austerely. Vikings were also substantially more violent than the average Vietnamese insurgent or whatever though.
Homeless people are the closest to austere living in the modern age, in the true sense of Greek stoics like Diogenes.
People aren't as violent anymore as they used to be though, since long term trends are decreasing violence. Maybe if human population collapses then people will be violent again, or if there's some sort of global famine due to climate change disrupting crops for a year or two.
To quote a testimony from the war, "A new gunner, a black kid who had recently been a grunt, had come over with me and Leese. We had stayed back, but he had gone closer to the pile of bodies just to look. He started wailing and crying and pulling at the corpses and had to be dragged away. He had seen his brother a the bottom of the heap."
@W@tch i am so glad i get to tell you that your concept of early humans is horribly outdated. Early "cave men" were indeed able to show campassion, acquire ptsd (which actually helped in their daily survival situation but has horrible effects in our modern day), as well as had the ability to practice sympathy and empathy. Prime examples of this would be:Shanidar cave, SH14 skull, and the 4000 yro arabian pennysula girl with muscular disease. We as a species no longer see much of survival of the fittest because we generally try and make sure everyone survives. But this also means we're affected deeply when we see people who we've formed bonds with die.
People who don’t experience death around them will surely suffer PTSD. People who’ve experienced death around them will most likely handle death with relative ease.
stories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme alot of it.
@FlymanMS Sounds like something a cult member would say. Why? So a psychiatrist can throw a label on me and oppress me with one? All because I don't goose step along with society's doctrine?
Hell if I don't - then I can have medication forced on me.
Do you believe you live in a free society?
Do you still believe the Dutch burned down the reichstag as well?
Keep goose stepping. Every reich needs it's brownshirts.
It's so frustrating to watch cops act out of emotion, because while they might get a little satisfaction from kicking this murderer in the face, they turn HIM into the victim. His crimes are open and shut, and their stupidity helps build his defense.
I don’t think I’d have the strength to be to totally objective, confronting a man who killed a pregnant woman, an infant, and a truly excellent coworker of mine. I agree that it’s foolhardy, but you can’t deny that it’s intensely human.
😟 I remember watching that dash cam & was sickened by it. It's interesting yet tragic to see a different side of the shooter. Just about every aspect of this case is deeply unfortunate.
In my opinion, this is the best video you've made. You hand picked the best examples of how videos play so much effects in determining how cases will be judged, and in this case how we viewers look from another perspective that you brought. The thinking behind this, the narration, and Vietnam War clips at the beginning... everything is just pure genius work. This channel and especially this video outwitted those documentaries in Netflix. Brilliant work!
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
dude, please make more videos. You are MAGIC. I cry in almost every video that you make. You are an amazing creator and I wish I could get daily uploads
As much as we all wish this could happen, these videos take incredible lengths of time to even research; let alone fact checking, writing a script for 1+ hours worth of documentary, voice overs + any necessary retakes and editing. It's a long process, and as much as it sucks he's a one man team. All we can do is show him our full support TwT
"A broken mind is like a broken vase: you can glue it back together, but it will never be the same again." Pieces will always be missing, no matter how hard you try. From experience: this is why it is important to stay on your meds if you have PTSD or severe mental illnesses. A completely rational person, through a chemical imbalance in the brain, becomes someone else entirely.
He never meant to be that way, although he DID chose to shoot the police officer with a gun. Andrew I mean. That was a choice. But the circumstances are mitigating, he was made that way. If he had never gone to Vietnam, he might have lived a totally normal life.
It is unfair to blame someone for having a mental condition that causes those symptoms, as much as it is unfair to blame a person with a damaged heart if they have a heart attack. But where does that end? How far can we point to and say: "this was his illness, it was not his fault"? I do not know, and I do not feel I have a right to judge.
What is most saddening is that if Andrew had gotten more support from the state as a veteran, this might not have happened. He was a good man, I got the feeling, his dog certainly thought so. He and his comrades went through hell, in a war they did not start, and saw horrible things. They were forced to. You can tell from the pictures at the end, if nothing else. You can see they were in pain.
No one should have to live with that. If you or anyone you know are experiencing mental health issues PLEASE SEEK HELP . You are not alone and there are people who care.
It’s way too easy to not stay on ones meds though. We have millions of people who are a couple of days away from going crazy if they decide to not take their meds. That’s what happens when you do away with asylums and let these people loose and think that they’re just gonna “take their meds” as prescribed and be ok.
While there’s no doubt the US is at fault for fucking this guy up, where my sympathy ends is that he chose to take out an innocent person rather than just committing suicide.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth Exactly. There's a fine line between mental health problems causing seriously fatal behaviour, and having murderous intent. The key is support. You, however, place too much blame on people "deciding not to take their meds." Depending on the person, and their condition, a conscious decision is not always the case.
Also, "these people", if you are referring to the mentally ill are also people. They are not a different or separate breed of person. This is a way of thinking that is natural, no one wants to think about it happening to themselves, and so mental distance is put between you and them. This type of thing can happen to anyone, billions of people are one severely traumatic experience away from serious mental health issues. Think of it as akin to a car accident or something similar, no one is immune. It could happen to you, tomorrow.
Unfortunately, asylums were not well run, badly used, and their patients very ill treated. That is why they were eventually phased out. Once put in there, people in general were left to deteriorate, in an "out of sight, out of mind" type mindset. Those who were and are institutionalised are contained, rather than given enough help to properly recover. One of the better developments of recent times is that mental health is more widely discussed, and carries slightly less stigma. Still, the more serious conditions does still cause some of the public to shy away from a wish to fully understand, as it makes them feel uncomfortable.
Yet, I thank you for your reply. The US mental health system is severely lacking, we can both agree on that. There are so many who are, as you correctly stated, just cast adrift without support, and what is worse, without the required medication if they cannot afford it, at least to my understanding.
I’ve watched that dash camera footage plenty of times for training purposes. I never knew who the “perp” truly was. I didn’t even recognize the story until you mentioned the officers name. Truly a saddening story.
Truth. I hate saying it because...I feel like an asshole... but I always wish Kyle would have said something....when Andy said "I am a Vietnam Combat Veteran ".... something human. ...not... "step back Now"... the police ranting... did seem to tip Andrew over the edge. It really looks like a little bit of humanity could have helped. It ...is scary that this video is now used as "you need to shoot sooner" training.
@Jath 2112 Try and do that to a person who was speeding like crazy and your about to get off shift this is 98 it isnt like what we got today i respect andy for apologizing but we shouldnt forget that the Officer was also a person who was young and just had a baby
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
@Daniella Lively I think the part that gets us hooked is that regardless of who you are we all have subconscious thoughts about the exact things these people do and go through with, the only thing that differentiates us between them is the ability to recognize that these thoughts are only subconscious and we have the ability to determine those thoughts from right or wrong and act upon that accordingly. Knowing right from wrong I think it's natural that humans are infatuated with the process of thinking that goes into why you would choose the "wrong" instead of the right. At least in my eyes that's case, I love putting myself into the minds of these people, trying to understand why they would do these things? What compels them? What do they gain? $0.02
@noname I think age restriction makes a video not get recommended, or possibly just much less likely to be recommended. To see this one I had to click the channel.
@Carly Geiger it's really not strange, the videos have 30+ million views and there are only like 17 videos so every single one of those people - has a "last" video out of the 17. Statistically, 1,764,705.882352941 people out of the 30 million who watch all the videos would have this be their last video. If 1% of them comment, that's 17,647 comments. If 1% of THAT 1% comments, well we have this reply thread Not strange at all
@Daniella Lively What bothers me even more than that she is a killer and running around free of justice is her statements to the media she is enjoying it she said “I’m still not even certain as I stand here today about what happened,” while in the court her Attorney was sure that the kid drowned, she also said "'I sleep pretty good at night'" and " i don't give a f what people think of me" even her parents said that it's trange thing to say after all what happendand after the lost of her child she is happywith it.
The dude that narrates it, suits it so well 😅 okay next question was the one before this the one about the guy who had an apprentice kidnap the poor soul 8 year old girl 😩
i think this is everyone's last video because its one of the shortest ones maybe, idk it's weird we all started with "what pretending to be crazy looks like" and ended with this video
@Jam That's not true. It's that the jury didnt have enough evidence to say beyond reasonable doubt that Casey was the killer. And unless they can prove that theres no doubt, they cannot convict.
This one is, by far, for me, at least, the most tragic. After reading a comment about the dashcam footage at the end, I couldn't finish it. The thought of hearing the officer's screams and his horrifying death will haunt me forever, and I just refuse.
I'm sorry for your loss... you will experience grief and sorrow but their is hope! I've watched all of the videos twice, and I'm desperately waiting for more uploads!! Pray for new videos!
Isn't it terrifying to think that in this time in the US, that a rookie police officer could find himself in a firefight against someone who only survived two tours in a brutal war such as Vietnam, but also won two medals for bravery under fire.
Of all the stories on this channel, this is the only one that really gave me a sense of injustice. I’m reading these comments about other vets’ experiences and just absolutely heartbroken. How can we still go to war when all it does is destroy both foreign nations and our own people? Andy’s final words literally brought tears to my eyes. At the young age of 21 he became a decorated hero. And he suffered for it for the rest of his life. The state gave him trauma and called him a hero. The same state executed him. The irony is strong. It’s more than irony, it’s injustice.
Getting a medal is a shiny consolation. The government doesn’t want you to realize you were no more than a pawn in their game. What does being a hero get you? A lifetime of suffering, at best. They send you to hell, and for what? What’s the point? It’s just such a waste of human life. Such a waste.
@Westles You ask the right questions and make the right statement. Only governments and private entities benefit from war...never civilians, families or soldiers.
This whole situation is tragic. The fact that PTSD only made him a harm to others. Its so sad, people join the military to make a difference and to honorable things... but they come back with PTSD and can't even feel proud of themselves. It's so saddening.
Brannen's story is nothing short of a tragedy. Feeling like the draft will never end, he signs up for service, and then proceeds to have most the people he's known in his adult life die around him. He comes home, and loses both of his brothers. He tries finding help for PTSD, and then is sentenced to death after his mental issues become demonstrably too severe for public safety. Literally what was he supposed to do for himself - he dedicated his life to America, and America failed him.
Oh and let's not forget we constantly vote for war hawks that have no problems putting our troops in harm's way if a foreign leader looks at them the wrong way.
I'm not American so I always wondered why people voluntarily join the military. Does it pay that good or are those people so brainwashed into thinking it's their patriotic duty?
@joanna_k The answer lies in poverty. Under it, the prestige and arguably not sufficient pay (relative to risk) of military service might seem a viable optian. The American self-perception as Guardians of the world's liberties probably doesn't hurt either, though.
That's what happens when you worship false gods/idols, America is an idol, serving it and then expecting something from it is like serving a stone and expecting a reward from the stone. The vietnam invasion like all the other american invasion have been unjustified. It's no surprise the people who go and murder entire villages of innocents come back with guilt and die in humiliation. May God guide the american people to the straight path.
America fails its Veterans DAILY. In every conceivable way. I'm married to a man who is disabled, with a 100% service-connected disability. You cannot imagine what we are forced to endure for routine, basic care or services. It should be a crime. This man fought for those of you who could not or would not. In what society is it reasonable to expect him to continue to fight every day for basic dignity and care from the very government he defended, in addition to fighting the disability he labors under?
@joanna_k You are aware that america isn't the only country with a military that you can voluntarily join? There's countless reasons why people join, my great grandfather joined to defend his country, my grandfather was forced into it and my father did it to piss off my grandfather.
@Autism is Uncontrollable I never said it was the only one. It is one that has casualties without being attacked though, that's why I'm wondering. I wouldn't go die for a country that declares wars on foreign soil every 2 seconds.
@LF Thank your husband for his service, I'm sorry that he and you are being treated like this by the same government that was the cause of the disability that he and yourself now have to endure. Those that serve in the military and their families deserve so much more, it's beyond comprehension, war breaks human beings into something so unrecognizable and tragic, and yet could be so easily alivated to a degree that would make their life and their families a little more bearable, and that is what is truly heartbreaking.
@DrTubeman Thanks for your kind words. I will be happy to relay that message. It's a daily challenge, and some days a single nice gesture makes all the difference.....we appreciate it more than you can imagine. Hope you have a safe and healthy new year!
@LF Thank you, you're most welcome Lorie, I hope your husband and you hear that every day, all the very best for you and your husband and families for 2021, you deserve to have a lot more of what brings a smile to your faces and happiness into your life every day. Safe, healthy, and happier times Lorie.
@Hasan Xorasani Like all other american invasions? Like that one in the 40s that is likely the primary if not only reason the world isn't under authoritarian or nazi rule? I will not deny that America has been involved in unjustified wars but they have also basically taken care of the worlds problems single handedly for a century now. Whatever country you are from would likely not exist as you know it if not for American military or military spending.
@Christopher Downs Now that Biden's in office, get ready for some more wars! Maybe even a draft too. They'll need a big conflict to re-unite our divided country. You know, the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. A conflict that size might call for a draft.
I have ptsd, but one of the biggest differences between him and I is that I have not hurt anyone because of my own issues. Even as a civilian I’ve tried to get help, but therapy doesn’t help everyone. The only thing that’s truly helped me is teaching myself how to properly deal with my issues and my dog too.
Although he, I, and many other people who have ptsd, we still know right from wrong. He murdered that man and deserves what he got. It’s harsh considering what we know about ptsd, but knowing what I know about my own situation, you have to learn to properly deal with it on your own because ultimately you are the only person that can help yourself.
@Mrs.Estrada • Wishing you best of luck in your recovery. I know that stuff can be a bitch. What kind of symptoms do you get? Body type of stuff? Like, you wanna jump out of your own skin type of feelings? Or something else?
@Mrs.Estrada • Not all PTSD is the same, I understand what you mean but comparing PTSD from any number of things to PTSD caused from the type of combat Brannan seen is apples and oranges. When someone’s PTSD stems from combat it is going to be a lot different. It is not an accurate statement to say PTSD causes violence however combat PTSD DOES cause violence. It has been studied like crazy since the civil war when the level of violence was unprecedented due to the mass amounts of combat veterans. I believe it was something like 2/3 of all violent crime at the time was committed by combat vets. A veteran with atleast one combat tour is something like 10x more likely to commit violence compared to a non combat veteran with PTSD, let alone a civilian. Not something you can compare as both have been studied and it’s clear they are not the same. War is hell and the link between veterans of combat and violence is something we have known about for centuries...the murder rate doubled in the US after Vietnam.
@Whoop Shoopadoop for me it used to be the an extreme feeling of being in panic or attack mode 24/7, I still have issues dealing with the crippling anxiety, and I used to have nightmares quite often, a lot of times I feel like everyone’s out to get me, but I’ve gotten a ton better. I didn’t even know that I had ptsd until I was 19 and I only found out because it was amplified by postpartum depression which is why I went to seek help because I started experiencing really bad suicidal thoughts as well as some other thoughts that I don’t wish to mention. I’ve dealt with being suicidal for a long time but never the thing that I wish to not talk about. I thought that I had only depression and anxiety growing up, but considering what I’ve been through, ptsd wasn’t really a surprise.
@Whoop Shoopadoop one thing too that has affected my relationship with people and my marriage is sorta like flash backs, but not like visions. It’s like remembering a situation that happened in the past that was traumatic and the events leading up to it, but something similarly happening in the present time that really doesn’t have anything to do with the traumatic event, but still going into that attack or panic mode. If that makes sense. Like trying to prevent that thing from happening although it’s not going to happen more than likely. That’s another thing that has been difficult, but identifying that and addressing it with myself quickly has helped. Before I thought I was just an extremely irritable person or I was just easy to piss off.
@Whoop Shoopadoop well, sorta a combination of everything and at the time I was going through a really rough situation in my marriage. But one thing I’ll say, is that I felt like I couldn’t love my newborn son and had no clue what to do with a child... having him has reminded me of what I didn’t have growing up. But has also pushed me to change and be a far better parent than what I had experienced growing up. But that’s all I’ll say about that without going into too much detail.
@Christopher Downs You might “pretend we do” but a lot of people actually do care and support programs that help veterans. The world isn’t all bad dude.
not only that but the officer also behaved not very competent and escalated that situation. draw his gun at a time where he didnt need to. then didnt use it when he should have. all in all a perfect storm of a shitshow crowned by a horrendous verdict
@ulriksj That’s too simplistic. I joined and was solidly middle class. I did so to serve my country, and to get skills and experience that you cannot actually get nearly as quickly (if ever) in a typical job. People join the military from all segments of American society. And most of those are amazing, dedicated, hard working people who truly want to make the world a better place.
@Dan L False. My brother in law is a Colonel in the Air Force who used to run the largest VA PTSD treatment center in the country. Everyone working there has a passion for helping retuning veterans heal and transition back to a normal life. Your comment unintentionally denigrates all of the thousands of people who are spending their lives helping veterans. It is fine to criticize politicians for wrong priorities when they have them. But there are many who do care deeply about veterans health.
Absolute heartbreaking. I watch this channel all the time and so many are senseless cold blooded killers for something as stupid as money. Yet this tragedy (while senseless) just doesn't seem right. War is not meant for humans, there is forever a price to pay and to expect our soldiers who have been exposed to that type of war (as Vietnam was) we should not expect them to come home and be a regular person in our society
Great video! Small note, a large part of why Loyd's interrogation wasn't more useful in his case is because he wasn't given legal counsel after asking for it twice, making everything after the first few minutes of the interrogation practically useless in court.
Andrew’s case and this episode is imprinted in my mind. I always look back at this episode from time to time. It’s so tragic on what happened to Andrew and Kyle yet that piece of sh*t Markeith Loyd didn’t get what he deserved. It’s just so sad.
My grandfather fought in 3 wars.. WWII, Korean, and Vietnam. While he didnt talk about being at war a lot if ever, he would answer questions if we had them. Only thing was we werent allowed to ask was about Vietnam. He made it clear... he did not... and would not talk about Vietnam. So I took that as some serious serious shit went down over there. I can only imagine the demons Andy must have had. So so sad!!
Aye they all gone now felt really sad listening to this. His father died five years before Andy killed the police officer and he was buried next to his 2 sons. Just hope they are all buried in same place near each other. Broke my heart with his final words. It’s disgusting how his life ended.
@marabut I’m libertarian lol which is why I’m against imperialism, let motherfuckers be... not everyone wants to be americanized? That don’t got shit to do with right or left? Every country got the right to self-determination; which is hard to do with us establishing Military Bases & Interpol in EVERY continent? Theres a reason they don’t like us EVERYWHERE outside of America. I was shocked myself. I lived in Peru 4 years cause of business & they HATE the fact America intervenes in their politics, which we can all agree is fucked up right? If we cant even agree on THAT then Im not even gonna waste my tome with you. You got that big bruh you won
@Gustavo Ñaña Rosales yeah i agree that the US shouldn't be putting bases everywhere and intervening with affairs that aren't their own. The only time I think the US or even any country should be intervening with foreign affairs would be if horrible atrocities or violations of human rights were taking place like slavery or genocide.
100% agree. The part that really hit me is when it was acknowledged that he apologized to the family before he died and said, "I am glad to be getting out of this place." While he did do wrong, it is so obvious he needed treatment. What a tragic story all around. This is why we need to keep pushing to destigmatize, and bring awareness to, mental health issues.
@Belfor09 yeah...our government is pretty shitty. The current one is pretending to be progressive but is acting like we can just go back to the 90s and pretend nothing bad happened after that.
It’s a sad reality but as a nation, it’s our duty to fight for it if need be. My father nearly shot my aunt in the face after he came back from Vietnam. This is a reminder that mental health needs MORE exposure and overall need people to be better to their fellow man and children.
What an absolute gem of a video. I feel tremendous sorrow and admiration for Andrew Brannan. I have naught but scorn for the government that had sent him and so many of his generation to die in a cruel and ridiculous war. This scorn extends to the state of Georgia also for having put Brannan to death without any form of leniency.
That last line put tears in my eyes, that man never left the battlefield. I'd like to believe we live in a society today where these problems are rectified but with the war in Afghanistan coming to a close I dunno man.
"Im glad to be getting out of this play" so chilling. So much tragedy. His family lost all 3 sons and an innocent officer lost their life as well, the officers kids lost a father.
Alright clearly there’s no coincidence none of us noticed this lol maybe it got reuploaded back into its same place or something? I swear this wasn’t here just the other day
This reminds me of the Mandela. I swear this video wasn't there before. Might sound crazy but it definitely feels like we've slipped into another timeline... Maybe they had it private or unlisted initially
This video is age restricted and I couldn't watch it on my pc and ps4, but on my phone. Idk why, cause I'm logged in with the same acc and I didn't verify my age. But maybe that's why it doesn't get recommended for some.
@Rotkeappchen 123 I did wonder why the views for this video were waaaay down to the other JCS videos. Perhaps it was Shadow Banned by YouTube owing to content?
made me cry. rip to everyone who was affected by the awful things in this video. i feel for the vet, makes me way more empathetic to those who have served.
I didn't watch this video for so long and I'm kicking myself for not watching it sooner. JCS is already the best channel on YouTube and this is his best video by far. Thank you for sharing these stories so eloquently.
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Lucas S2021-12-24 02:26:40 (edited 2021-12-24 02:27:04 )
Honestly one of the most sad and unfortunate cases ive ever heard of. Ive seen the full video on my own and its something I really cant bear to listen to again. Its disgusting how Vietnam Veterans were treated, and its sad that Andy never got the help he needed after serving in some of the most horrific circumstances in American History. Its sad that this police officer had to die so young in such a horrific way. Ill never forget his death, or the reactions of his fellow officers in the dashcam after he was killed. Its truly a tragedy on every side and in every sense and I really appreciate that you gave it the respect it deserves. One of your best videos.
@Puppy Puppington I'm sorry to burst your bubble but their job is to enforce the law, not to give a therapy session. They don't make the law, they just enforce it.
@Puppy Puppington As was already said, they're just enforing the law, don't blame them for arresting people over substance possession, blame the lawmakers for making it illegal in the first place in their failed war on drugs.
@Dehydrated Culture I tend to stick with science, virtually every study agrees that the war of drugs did way more damage than having everything legilized ever could. It's even more idiotic once you realize that some of those "illegal" substances you mention are very much legal in other countries and people perform just as well as they did before, the only difference is that it boosts economy.
Laura Elizabeth okay exactly so they’re not our friends. they don’t address or stop crime, they just react to it, enforce unjust laws and definitely do not serve the community
@Puppy Puppington Police are your friends when you follow the Law. They arent social workers, the arent rehab workers, their job is to Enforce the Law, and if you break the law, rather you agree with it or not, its there job to arrest you and make sure you face the consequences of your actions. Im not sure why you think Law enforcement exist to help people get themselves out situations that they got themselves into.
@Gabriel Rosas yes, police officers have discretion. But would you rather them have to arrest tou for every offense that warrants it? Or would you rather give police officers who are sympathetic and who understand and know the people they deal with on the day to day some wiggle room? Better yet, how about just follow the law (which is by no means a difficult thing to do in the U.S.) and never have to be concerned with it to begin with.
@Laura Elizabeth "They don't make the law, the just enforce it" Oh god, I wish you were kidding
I agree that Officer Deb seemed like a great woman, but trying to excuse the police from sending addicts into the prison-industrial complex by saying "they just be followin' orders" is asinine. It's the same argument Nazis used in the Nuremberg trials.
That’s joe Biden to blame, he’s the one that created the bill that puts people in prison for petty drug crimes, the police are just a year in the system they cannot control that
@Michael Dromes you just want to smoke pot and on acid 24/7. It's okay to be honest. Y'all fighting for weed and all that shit by putting recreational use and scientific use on the same pool. I'd say yes to scientific use, but I'd give my honest double middle finger for recreational use.
With war on drugs failed, what's next? "well lets make slavery legal so there are no slavery report"? "lets make customer service hotline scam a honest business"?
@Puppy Puppington unfortunately it's the systems fault. Its their job to arrest for possession and the system puts them through the process. Most do have to seek help to comply with their probation but 2 problems, the help the government provides isn't very good and most offenders could really care less and don't want the help so it does literally nothing for them and they become repeat offenders.
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Sarah Ronyar αψω2020-10-26 00:19:19 (edited 2020-10-26 00:22:10 )
There isn't one person here, from the ones talking about the LAW like it's the Bible, that could ever learn the whole legal code by heart, not one. It is impossible to obey something that is so complicated and convoluted.
On top of that, police are giving reports to politicians and police unions (populated by cops) are lobbying for tougher laws on different trivial matters. Anslinger, the architect of the war on drugs worked for the police, so cut the crap. Cops are as much to blame for the war on drugs as politicians.
@Laura Elizabeth so they are indeed not your friends? and not to help? but she seemes like a really great officer and actually did seem to want to help that community.
@Mallorie DiBi I'm not comparing the system to the Third Reich, I'm comparing the excuse which tries to strip officers of any responsibility for their actions to the flimsy arguments used in Nuremberg. Of course a cop isn't going to be able to selectively enforce the laws they like, but are still responsible for whatever they do as an officer. That's all I think I was trying to say here.
Seems like it's always the good cops that die, and the corrupt ones that get to the highest positions of power due to never taking real risks. Kinda depressing.
@Sardonicus Exactly! And they love using the death of officers of colour like her but when those ssme officers were alive they call them token and don't treat them with the same respect as white officers.
@Netizen u can't even contain your racism when it concerns a woman who was killed doing her job, which was protecting her community? really? all that and you still can't see this lady as an actual person
@Alpha Rebel her death was in 2017 and plus BLM has always been more focused on the police brutality aspect rather than just black people getting killed
@Charlotte404 You got me all wrong. Of course I feel bad for her. The only thing that would annoy me is that I wouldn't be able to ride her while she's cooking for me.
I’m glad to be getting out of this place, damn I was just casually eating something while watching and I still shed a tear even though I read about it in the comments completely. Also, the poor guy didn’t wanna kill even if smh meant that he’ll be killed.
To the day he died you couldn’t reach over my father while he was sleeping. if you have any older loved ones who have been in situations where they might suffer from PTSD, check on them. It comes back
It was a horrific thing that man did, but it’s a special kind of messed up when the same government that sent him into hell on earth with little support after the war is the same government that put him to death.
I remember back in college, around 2011, we found out that a professor was a Vietnam vet, one day a student asked him about it (for some fucking reason he thought it was acceptable) and the professor got very quiet and sat down. He just stayed silent and looked like he wanted to cry. I've never felt so bad for someone as I did for him that day, it was the way his face turned to one of terror. Who knows what he saw.
Used to be able to talk to my dad about Vietnam, he had no problem with it until about a decade ago. Lately I’ve had to tell people meeting my dad not to mention it because if you do he won’t be able to sleep at night. Somehow for forty years after he got back, he was able to just get over it. Then he got to his mid 60’s and everything changed.
@crowtservo it sounds like he hadn't actually processed what really happened until then. It's easier to compartmentalize events, especially traumatic ones, than it is to process. I hope he's able to seek and accept help.
@Privacy Lover Because there was a big difference between world war 2 and Vietnam in one you were killing Nazi's a despicable group bent on ethnic cleansing and domination in the other you were just killing a bunch of folks in their own home for reasons that no one really understood. One came back a hero the other an outcast to their society
It's not sad or wrong if someone asks about another's experience. It's sad a person is never given a platform or place to process their emotions over such trauma. You experience the worst of humanity and are never given support to process it. Additionally, men's emotions are often supressed by society/familial conditioning so it is exponentially worse when events are extremely traumatic like war. Vets need to be given adequate emotional/mental support for the rest of their lives as that trauma will be carried forever.
@the.hinderwomann. Yeah, I wonder if this around the time of retirement/kids leaving home. Sometimes people use work/family as an escape and too much free time can bring back ugly memories.
We had a Vietnam vet in high school. He would dip in and out of memories and have PTSD episodes. One time he dove over a folding table and tipped it over using it as cover. Another time he grabbed a classmate by the shoulder and yelled BILLY, ARE YOU OK? Bizarre stuff while witnessing it.
@You don't see an old man havin' a Twix True. But as young teens we were all like UH wtf do we do? These were not short moments. Theyd last 10 mins which can feel like an eternity when you are in an awkward moment. Lol
Dissociation, also known as the thousand yard stare. Happens after or during a flashback. Your brain basically goes into survival mode and your mind almost leaves your body and you’re trapped in another world.
Best way to snap people out of it is to use grounding techniques.
I remembered when i was 12 years old and a vietnam vet asked me if i was a refugee from the Vietnam war, and i told him yes. He got excited and wanted to talk to me about it. For some reason during the small talk i asked him 'did you ever kill anyone in vietnam?". A whole soup of emotions came over his face, anger, dread, sadness, and frustration. He just stood there silent dissapointed in me, that i would ask such an ignorant question to a traumatized vietnam vet. I was 12 and stupid, i didnt realize what i had done. I feel so guilty for being so immature and stupid.
That woman that witnessed the female officer killed was permanently damaged from what she saw. God bless her so much. You know she has PTSD from what she witnessed.
I watched this when it came out, and I always remembered it. I’m so glad to see JCS’ has so much success with his videos. I do wish this video held first place for the most views...
I've seen the video before this video and there was no doubt in my mind that he should have been put to death before this. His backstory does bring up explanations as to why he could have done what he did, but I still think the sentence was just. He was a danger to himself and others and at that point in his life, insane. Sure, they could have committed him but what good could it truly do. Sure video shows you something more emotionally, and in this case, there was no way someone could watch the video and let this guy off. It was that damning, cold blooded and unexplainable. We could have given him mental help, but death might have been more merciful in this case. He said it himself.
Damn. I have such a love for our service members. I feel sorry for him. I think when you experience something so traumatic, it's hard for your mind to ever leave that place. I've seen some raw unbridled violence. Granted it was probably a fraction of that seen in Vietnam. It'll take a toll on you. I'm just lucky my experience was probably like being in Disneyland compared to what most of our men in Nam had to deal with.
People have been shot by cops for far less provocation than that... That officer really didn't want to shoot the guy, probably figured he was ill and needed help. It's such a shame when the compassionate ones are lost.
Maybe if he were better trained to specifically handle people with mental illnesses he could have found a way to spare his life. I get why cops are trained to protect themselves, but I can't imagine screaming at the guy over and over again helped. And he obviously was trying to do the right thign and show restraint, I dont' mean it in any negative way at all towards him personally. It's just...I dont' know. There has to be a better way for us to handle these things as a society.
He should have had more tools than a gun. I’m confused why he had his gun out at the beginning when he could have used those taser guns that shoot out to stop the threat and then handcuff him so that everyone is alive and safe but I’m not a cop so 🤷🏻♀️
Agreed. I'm guessing panic and not being sure on what to do, perhaps genuine concern for another human being. That job and its position of power attracts so many power hungry sociopaths, who join because they're looking to commit acts of violence and get away with it, it's sad that this guy of all cops had the luck to run into an armed mentally unstable individual.
A taser gun is very unreliable, specially at that range, the same goes for pepper spray. I really don't see what the cop could have done to spare his life. In cases like this its better to shoot as soon as the suspect reacts violently. Thousands of officers have lost their life out of hesitation.
@Matt Schemmer What can you do when you live in a society where guns are handed out to everyone and the state doesn't help anyone with mental illness at all.
Another problem is that tasers weren't even introduced until about the mid 1990's so there's a good chance his department didn't even have tasers available yet
Matt Schemmer the guy literally gave the officer no chance he got out of the truck, didn’t comply with the officer pulled out the rifle and shot the officer multiple times before the officer had a chance to attempt anything.. plus the officer had just been reprimanded for excessive force prior to this and was possibly reluctant.
@Benjiha Yeah, here in Denmark all officers have guns, but over the last 10 or so years 11 people have been killed by police, and there was some news stations talking about it being alarmingly high, when compared to neighboring countries, where the average was like 5. Besides less guns per capita and gun types, i think a big part is that we have an independent investigation of every single discharge.
@Carolina Dog the officer definitely could and should have acted differently. In the start of the interaction you can clearly see the man is not sane or acting rationally.. and the cop could have seem very fast that his shouting didn’t get any positive result. De-escalating would have been the way to go... calm voice, human communication... It might have been due to stress, but I’m guessing this used to be the normal course of action for US cops? The shouting thing..
@flowersandlemons It still is the norm, unfortunately. Cops here in the US approach every situation assuming the worst, moving straight past calm, civil discussion and right into shouting and intimidation.
@Sgt Depression He could have got in his car and drove off quickly, then called for backup to get the man under control. Police need better deescalation methods. They could also make sure they always travel with a partner.
@Matt Schemmer Yeah, on the condition above what he supposed to do? I mean, theory is easier than practice. If you cant even theorize, dont bother with pratices.
@Obviously Vegans are still doing the "I'm vegan" thing for every non related topic? Sheesh. Why not stop eating altogether since crop farming also kills animals.
@Katie S watch people getting tased when they're on an adrenaline rush, especially someone who's either mentally unstable or large. Tasers do almost nothing sometimes and if the taser fails to subdue the individual, it pisses them off more which often leads to lethal force being used. Either way, the outcome remains the same apart from the small chance of the taser actually working. Your explanation only works in a perfect world, unfortunately. Situations like these are fluid and its easy to say he "could have, should have, would have" when its all in hindsight.
@Matt Schemmer I dont know he was dealing with a I'll soldier who wanted to die and he wasn't going to kill him, so I dont see away this could have been avoided other than wrestling him to the floor before the gun thing. This soldier was an ordinary soldier ether he was a damn good one who survived multiple battles even when his allies died, I dont see how that officer could live with out killing him first.
@ShayDale I'm sorry, but if that's your idea of calm and assertive we will have to disagree. He begins shouting "Get back!!!" over and over and at increasing volume which, contrary to what police training would seem to be teaching, only serves to escalate the tension. Always. It is a fear response, which he (and other officers of the law) should have been trained to override, because increasing the volume of your commands NEVER improves a tense situation and goes against every existing tenet of de-escalation.
@Obviously you are the only one going after someone else here, everyone else is trying to see both sides of the story, and you just came and started accusing people you know NOTHING about, for a bunch of stuff. You’re the one who’s in the wrong here.
@Lie*** Right! When I was a kid, I remember the cops that came and talked to us in school, always said they were trained to aim at the legs or shoulders, that’s apparently a lie because now the cops here says that never was a thing..it should be.
The officer had recently been reprimanded for drawing his weapon unnecessarily, leading to speculation that this is why he was hesitant to shoot sooner.
@Matt Schemmer The way the police officer could have spared his life is by shooting first.
The police officer died, Andy B. survived, so the only life that could have been spared is the police officer's because he didn't shoot first. But we all get what you mean.
Even if it was the other way around, though, how do you deal with someone that's suicidal? Suicidal to the point they'd openly provoke the police officer with a firefight and behavior like a drug-addict, and try to close the gap unarmed to someone who's clearly loaded?
Bear in mind, of course, that we're looking at this with hindsight. With hindsight, we know that Andy B. has PTSD. In hindsight, we know that Andy B. is mentally ill. And of course, in hindsight, we know that he's a war veteran. Can't exactly get this info in the initial pullover scene where you literally first meet the guy.
I think at that point, the situation's not an "if" but a "when." You'd have to curb this off with some form of therapy for the PTSD before it can get this severe, and that's IF the dude wants help integrating into neurotypical society. If they're not present enough or cognitive enough to think "I want to change" and to really deal with their trauma, then therapy won't work.
@flowersandlemons Adrenaline does do that to people! The US tends to teach cops how to stay alive. But that doesn't necessarily mean every situation escalates to this degree. This was just a series of escalations. The cop gets Andy away from his car. Obviously doesn't want him pulling a weapon from the truck. He's clearly not acting sane or rationally. He then starts a conversation. "How are you doing, today?" The cop doesn't want Andy to put his hands in his pockets. Y'know why, weapons again. Andy starts to dance, dunno why, no one knows why, especially not the cop. The cop calls a 10-78 (which is "Needs Assistance", thank you google). Andy basically charges the cop and shouts. "Who are you calling motherfucker?" This is when the cop starts saying, "Get back." He's been a police officer for two years by this encounter (again, thank you google), so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first encounter where someone charges him due to mental instability.
There have been pushes for de-escalation training, but honestly, I can't tell you if this is in response to the public court or because this is the norm. Gotta keep in mind that observer bias and confirmation bias are a STRONG thing over here. Media makes bank off of escalation, it gets the most clicks on social media, so obviously that gets pushed out to people, and people mainly see escalations (especially since it's so blatantly laid out as the culprit by news) and take it as something to bring to the next two-party ragefest (no other party counts, we can only count to two here in the US).
The only thing we Americans can agree on is that we hate America.
i think its hard to say why he didnt shoot and defuse the danger first but it had to do with the fact he was either mentally il and didnt want to kill a mentally il person or maybe his race played into a part in why he wasnt emediatly shot? if he was hispanic or black or any other race would the cop have bin so patient to shoot and defuse the threat ?maybe, maybe not? andrew did say he was a war veteran so maybe the cop believed him? those are the reasons why i think the cop really didnt shoot earlier. if it was just a regular person i think they would have died getting out of their car 😐
@Ehfoiwehfow Jedioheoih I’m pretty sure he was a lunatic before that moment he was confronted by the policeman. I don’t require that policemen die for the public, they should keep things under control in a way that also keeps themselves safe. He wouldn’t need to go far but just back off until you can get help.
@Matt Schemmer he didn’t shoot because he had, had multiple department violations. He was afraid of getting fired. They still show the Dinkheller murder at the majority of police academies.
@Matt Schemmer I was kinda thinking that myself, yes he didn't know his backstory, but shouting orders and screaming at him, likely while pointing his gun at him based on footage I've seen from other dashcams is the absolute worst way to handle somebody like that and was always going to end in a fire-fight. The second he saw him dancing about like that he should have had an idea something was up, be it drugs or mental illness and tried to calm the situation down, but sadly they likely never trained him for that, only to scream at people and if they don't listen shoot them.
@I. C. Wiener well i do know he didnt try and properly descalate the situation buy putting his gun away and trying to calm the guy down. when someone is acting deranged and aggressive towards you but you dont know if their armed maybe he should of atleast try and warn the person to relax and listen to the him, in a non threatning way, if the guy is still aggressive /deranged he should have tried to tase him when he charged at him if that didnt work maybe try and arrest him with force at any momment he wasnt armed to avoid getting in a life threatning situation. if that doesnt work pull out your gun and warn him youl shoot if he doesnt respond to you and hes still acting aggressive and you see hes about to pull out a weapon to try and kill you well the cop has no other option but to shoot clealy that war veterran was acting all insane the whole time and this cop didnt respond accordingly to any off the things i mentioned . other cops would have handled it better or maybe would have just shot him the first time he charged witch would have saved his life either way. he just let him do what ever he wanted multiple times without consequences and when the veteran flashed his gun the cop just waited until he got the chance to reach for his weapon and that resulted in the both of them getting into a shoot out and the cop loosing his life.
@Monique L LOL. Yea... Let's leave a criminally dangerous suspect alone as a public safety hazard, and then just drive away from the scene. Your kidding, right? You guys need to go do some ride alongs or a citizens police academy or something so you can get a reality check.
@Hook He was alone before that policeman encountered him. And yes if you can’t contain a situation don’t put yourself in danger. Chances are if he backed off the situation wouldn’t have escalated and he’d be alive. Wait until you have back up to gain better control.
@Monique L You obviously haven't worked one day in law enforcement, let me impart years of experience to you (and make sure you understand we are talking about the Vietnam vet here) once your find out someone is suicidal, dangerous and especially armed, you as a Cop have NO choice but to keep engaged with that person to prevent loss of public life. Imagine your mom or grandma or someone you care about gets murdered by this guy moments after he is allowed to go free, and you find out a Cop was in contact with him moments prior and just let him go. Cops have to handle mental health subjects that literally no one else can or will handle, yet we are constantly blamed for anything and everything that goes sideways when you are dealing with someone who is dangerously insane. Rediculous.
@Frithnanth Caleb your right, it does sound stupid... Because it is. Imagine "retreat and regroup" with an active shooter, or maybe a hostage situation, or a domestic violence suspect who nearly killed his spouse and is still inside the house with her, or a drunk driver blasting down the freeway at a BAC of .25 or a suicidal person about to jump off an overpass to a bust highway. Yea... Retreat and regroup alright...
@Hook I have never worked in law enforcement. I have however dealt with people with mental illness and worked with children. I wasn’t suggest he leave completely. I suggested he back off. There are ways of dealing with volatile people/children. What you don’t do is back them into a corner. As a member of the public I don’t expect the police to be martyrs. I definitely feel that someone with more experience with people with mental health issues could have handled it better. The police are not equipped. This isn’t a war where you are fighting an enemy, you are dealing with everyday people, many who have varying issues.
@Monique L your telling a guy who deals with mentally challenged guys every single shift that we are "not equipped" and can do our job better. Nice to hear you deal with mental subjects and children(?) regularly, I promise you I will deal with more of both on a Tuesday night that you will in a month. Cops have thousands of interactions with mental subjects every single day that are resolved peacefully. Interactions they are called to because some citizen, who was scared to confront that mental subject themselves, called for help to resolve it. We get called by social workers, mental hospitals, crisis workers and live in care professions ALL THE TIME to resolve mental health issues THEY COULDNT RESOVLE, and do so in the vast majority of situations, yet you are suggesting the cop in this situation was somehow responsible for the criminal actions of another (mental health subject or not). I'm also a soldier who has dealt with combat related PTSD, and it was on me as the veteran to recognize my issues and seek out the resolution. Have you even watched the dash cam of the incident? The cop backed off to his car and all but begged him to drop the gun. He actually should have shot him much sooner, as I would have, and he would have gone home to his family. Educate before you pass judgement please.
@Hook Yes I think that policemen are not equipped to deal with mental health issues in a lot of cases. I’d be very fearful to call the police to deal with such things and feel more comfortable calling an ambulance. I’m from the U.K. by the way where any type of weapon is illegal and so the potential for a situation to end so violently is very rare. People are not armed and therefore the police are not armed. The US could take note and look to other Western countries. I was not blaming the police officer for his demise, I feel like I am showing more compassion. I don’t expect policemen to be martyrs. They have a job to do but they are people who can be just flawed and emotional etc. What happened here is a problem for you, so I am discussing potential ways something like this could be prevented. If you think everything that was done is correct then expect more police officers to die and more people with mental health problems to be thrust into the criminal system.
@Hook The US is a western country with the level of violence as many poor countries. The level of police killings is on par with many South American countries. I think less death is a good thing.
@Monique L Less violence is always good, but the USA has lots of drug abuse and that goes hand in hand with mental health and violence. No judgement against you as a person, however people who don't understand the reality of day to day policing in the US but are quick to pass judgement on the actions of officers frustrate me to an extent.
@Hook I think the US has the wealth and resources to bring violence down to the level of other equally wealthy countries. There is no excuse to have the same amount of police killings (percentage wise)as Nigeria or Venezuela for example where there are high levels of poverty and corruption.
@Monique L actually, the USA only averages about 31 people killed by the police per year, your country has about one death per year (allegedly... Some of the UKs reported methods are questionable in the LE community), but also has a far smaller population and far less issues with cartel related drugs and violence. 31 per year is pretty damn good all things considered, and we are FAR from the country with the most police violence. The US police are some of the best in the world, and you have more freedom and more rights in tbe USA than nearly any other country. The USA also has to contend with especially violent gang culture, cartel influence, and mental health epidemics related to drugs to mention a few things that aren't a factor in the UK. You can, however, be arrested and thrown in jail for life for trying to protect yourself in the UK, so I'll happily stay in the USA.
@Hook I feel like the police could improve everywhere. I’m not singling out the US. According to stats on Wikipedia, there were well over a 1000 people killed by police in the US and percentage wise it is on par with a lot of poverty stricken countries. Europe and some East Asian countries have far lower police killings and feel like the few is too much. You can look the stats on wiki and they go by percentage. So it’s taken into account population size. This video I watched just happened to be in the US. Although this is not a police killing but you are suggesting the police should have shot him first, which could have resulted in another police killing. I don’t feel this level of violence is justified in a wealthy country that has stability, wealth and resources to try and improve.
It’s as if Andy knew the switch was going to flip sooner or later as he got the gun pointed at him, like he wanted the cop to shoot him before he couldn’t stop himself from retaliating.
It's scary how ...his Vietnam kicked in.... he might have taken out a bunch of cops if they had been around. It is no joke....to notice a reload happening and charge directly at the other person shooting at you
I remember when I saw the dashcam footage from Officer Dinkheller’s car for the first time. My blood doesn’t run cold often from watching something third-hand on tape, but 9/11 (specifically the jumpers), the beheading of Nick Berg, and that dashcam video are at the top of the list of the most disturbing shit I’ve ever seen.
This is some Pulitzer level content here. Eye opening to say the least. I have to believe somewhere in the universe there is a balancing of scales occurring and that he has found peace.
Wow. This was really sad. I studied the 1960s for a semester in college and learned about how terribly vets from Vietnam were treated and about the war in general. It’s genuinely awful and shocking to learn about.
Very good story-telling. Compare a broken man, to a cold blooded killer, broken man gets Death sentence, cold blooded killer gets 2 hots and a cot for the rest of his useless life. My father has PTSD from 'Nam. He spent two and a half years there. Flew home on his 21st birthday. He has weird behaviors, for sure. I'm glad PTSD treatments and understanding, are improving.
My papa is a veteran and a pirple heart and he still suffers from ptsd like I do but his is more worse... but throughout the years he still managed. He would think about killing him self which i also glad he didn't, ever since I was born my papa wants to stay alive and now he's happy and im happy about it💕
This is true for veterans in Australia also. Another injustice is the way veterans affairs ignores the effect of toxic chemical exposure on military and their families. Their motto "Delay, Deny until they die"
@Luigi Cadorna ahhhh...I can see your a scholar on this subject and have first hand knowledge from relatives and friends who back this up... Well done, you are the toughest in the village 🏅
@Luigi Cadorna My goodness! What war were you fighting with your Mother, Aunt, and Grandmother? 🤔That must have been horrible, glad you're okay... but just because some people don't suffer from it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If everyone gauged the health of the masses by comparison to themselves then by that rationale, I don't understand why some need glasses as they age or insulin for blood sugar levels, jump at loud sounds or are frightened of dogs once bitten. I'm sorry for your loss, truly, but dude, you seem angry at sick people or people who empathize and I think you deserve love and should open yourself to it. Take care🖖🏼
Luigi Cadorna I am taking psychology, and from my understanding, and to keep it simple, being exposed to such traumatic events, and the unnatural sight of seeing a body dismembered in-front of you, changes the chemistry going on in your brain. I know it’s incomprehensible from just thinking about it, but you absolutely have NO control over these chemicals our brain produces. What can help these veterans and others with PTSD “control” negative thoughts/actions , is admitting and accepting they have something wrong going on, at no fault if their own, and therefore need help. The next step is to follow the therapists advise and take medications. Again, our emotions and actions are caused by CHEMICALS in our brain, that is why medicine is able to help, they administer you with the happy chemicals, and that stops your brain from producing so much of the bad chemicals. Psychology is extremely complicated.. were are still not 100% sure how the brain functions.. But we are surely getting there. I’m just glad there is SOME knowledge on how to reverse/control the effects of PTSD, but unfortunately we are not at the point where we can take a pill and be done with it forever. These veterans and anybody that has been exposed to traumatizing sights, will have to continue suffering until we can find a way to change the chemistry in our brain that causes PTSD. It’s just heart breaking.. Respect for all those who have voluntarily put their lives on the line. Respect.
EmperorJuliusCaesar Pain and sorrow ARE inevitable parts of life. No amount of advancement can stop that. The illusion that this is possible will fall apart.
BH: No, it's handled pretty well. But they have to 1. Ask for help 2. Follow the prescribed treatment including A. Taking the meds, B. Participate in therapy, C. Not abuse alcohol and street drugs. Finally, there is nothing magical about PTSD treatment at the VA. There are tens of thousands of Psychiatrists, PhD Psychologists who treat it as well.
PTSD period. That level of trauma to the subjective minds interpretation shows zero mercy in the way of symptoms, a battle in & of itself on all fronts, regardless of the root itself; the depth still leverages its control. But thats just from my experience.
@Maciu Hawkins oh yeah that's gruesome right? It never ceases to amaze me how vile people can be. It's absolutely stupefying how there seems to be no limit to the evil that people will inflict on each other I hope and pray that the stigma around mental illness and PTSD will get better, then, maybe those poor souls would be alive today. We live in a toxic angry culture and we need to be preventative instead of only punitive, lives would be spared if the PTSD was treated, the vicious acts may not have happened. Anger breeds hate and we need to support our Veterans who put their lives on the line for all of us to only come home and get no support especially for their mental health and it's not fair or right. It needs to be taken seriously and not made fun of. If we want to prevent these depraved acts from happening, we have to take mental health seriously.
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For USA the average suicide rate is 20 veterans per day take their life. In Australia the rate is also much higher than the public rate. Transition to civilian life, ptsd, toxic chemical exposure... obviously not being handled well by DOD & DVA. Its the government that put these men and women into these circumstances but when it comes to taking responsibility for their recovery, they often hide or turn their backs. I fought for 20 years just to get some minimal support for my service related injuries.
@Luigi Cadorna plenty of soldiers come home fine and plenty of soldiers come home broken and turn homeless. But there are apperly also plenty of people who like to troll everyone and there is no excuse for that ether
Yeah I mean, they break the boys down til they're a blank slate and turn them into brutal killers, make them commit horrific acts, and then rotate them back into the world and basically just cut them loose. The massively high rate of PTSD, opiate addiction, it's horrifying. For all the jingoistic slogans of support the troops and for how massive our military is we totally let them down and don't give two shits about them. The VA barely gets funded and they don't get the support they deserve Whether we support the shady reasons for our wars or whatever the political beliefs these guys don't deserve the treatment and they don't make any of the decisions Sure some are hardwired for combat and have that personality that meshes with it but most are just left high and dry
@Luigi Cadorna Agreed. One of the biggest problems with PTSD is that people thinks it causes murderous actions. That's not anywhere close who what real PTSD manifests as.
Dave Smith Thank you. People are interpreting me as implying PTSD is not real or something. No, what I’m saying is that PTSD alone is not an adequate explanation for someone to suddenly become a murderer after they are discharged.
Luigi Cadorna Uh did you not watch the video? He states that many soldiers have come home from war with PTSD and have done similar things but were not charged because of there mental state.
@hydro Many people also come back from college and are accused of murders and are not charged, in fact that can be applied to any group of people in the world, since murder is one of the most difficult crimes to prosecute for. Again, there is this tendency to try and label veterans as murderers despite a very low instance of it.
cPTSD does not give you inclinations towards murder. Any vet who has cPTSD can tell you that. If you have murderous tendencies, that's part of your own nature.
@Luigi Cadorna you're assuming all soldiers react the same. You're also assuming you know what was going on in this guy's mind. Not to mention you don't have PTSD
@Ben Weis Not to mention not everyone sees combat. A lot of service men and women don't see anywhere near the action that poor guy did. There is a reason that he earned two bronze stars and had multiple veterans testifying on his behalf. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he had serious issues because of the intense combat he took part in during his tours in Vietnam.
Is is so easy for "keyboard warriors" to simply dismiss the effects of combat-related PTSD. Most of these morons would crap themselves and curl up in the fetal position if they had to endure even a little of what that man went through. It is sad that this man could not find a life for himself in peace. We may pity him, but we sure as hell should not dismiss him.
@Dave SmithI think the obvious has to be restated because it seems you're missing something and dropped the plot. The beginning of the thread says," PTSD with our veterans is terribly mishandled", that's it...that is the point of topic. Mr. Luigi responded with a,"Nah, Fu*k that!" Nowhere has anybody said PTSD creates killers and that it's okay to, or get out of punishment because you suffer from it.
But...It gets to be put into the equation of the discussion without people shouting "Fu*k that!", it's counterproductive grandstanding for no intelligent outcome. You both sound like petulant children yelling" Everyone has to shut up because I don't understand and I don't care!" to adults discussing a puzzle piece of an undeniable fact of life people question... why do good people die? You're arguing something nobody else is, seemingly on the indignation of the topic of PTSD being brought up and put into the equation. This in NO WAY means amnesty for this person. Nobody has stated that. Why are you so insulted and confused at people trying to have a discussion or share personal experiences to better understand or recognize symptoms? Why it happened? How could this be prevented? Nobody in this thread has stated that it's okay to murder if you suffer from it, just that it should be treated.
So keep patting each other on the back for yelling into the ether of a non-argument Sir
@lulu The thing is next to no one here has it right about cPTSD. cPTSD does not make you violently out of control, it doesn't make you randomly kill people around you. That's hollywood interpretation, that isn't reality. cPTSD occurs as a consequence of training, you are trained in the military for heightened situational awareness so more things alert you than the average civilian. This is necessary survival instinct in a combat theater, but prone to false alarm in a first world country.
Yes PTSD is mishandled, and this comment section is ironically evidence of that.
@Luigi Cadorna "Nah, fuck that. Plenty of soldiers come home and don’t murder people. I know Vietnam was awful but it’s not an excuse." Peoples brains don't all work the same exact way and have the same exact chemical balance. Combat soldiers experiences aren't all equal. Dismissing combat as not having an impact on someone's behavior just because "others don't" is simply ludicrous. You are assuming everything is equal and insinuating these people would have committed murders regardless of their wartime experience. The problem is, you are failing to realize that who you are and your personality is the product of your life experiences combined with your biology. Not everyone has the same experiences leading up to a war, not everybody has the same experience in war, not everybody has the same biology.
Especially as time has gone on, in WW2 the average American combat soldier that enlisted in 1941 spent 40 days in combat in FOUR YEARS. The average Vietnam combat soldier spent 240 days in combat in ONE year.
Finally, no one is making an "excuse". The point is to recognize the problem and address it BEFORE a mentally broken person does the unthinkable.
@lulu ".I can see your a scholar on this subject and have first hand knowledge from relatives and friends who back this up..." It's typical, people can't fathom what they have never personally experienced, its easier to just believe it doesn't exist, especially when maybe even "most people" aren't impacted, to the extent of becoming a murderer. Compare it to addiction. You can never truly comprehend physical addiction until you have been addicted to something yourself.
@Luigi Cadorna it’s not an excuse but some ppl are so detached at that point seeing death everyday and on the brink of death at any moment sticks especially if your there for multiple years , even worse for the ppl that can’t go home because where they live is being invaded and destroyed by invaders
@Luigi Cadorna I deleted a mean-spirited comment I made 50ish minutes ago to you Mr.Luigi that I regret. I truly hope for open conversations but my emotions got the better of me. Everyone gets to be included in a discussion Lu, I just completely disagree with your stated words ( not an interpretation of them) and am trying to not be injected into that problem with ignorance or apathy. I regret that it's easier to point out evil then look away in disgust than it is to look straight at it, to try understand and hopefully prevent evil to have a hold on our society. I don't want a feeling of ganging up on an opinion but I think you may be interpreting others and not noticing that you seem to want to be understood through interpretation of your words.
The thing that annoys me is that it seems like he was expected to go back to work and just pick up life all over again afterwards as if nothing was wrong. I realize that he might have wanted it that way to maintain some sense of normalcy but at the same time, it just seems plain cruel to ask a guy to pretend like his life could ever be normal again after he's been through that sort of thing.
@lulu lol As if war justifies killing people at home...what a trash argument...but i guess the ptsd Andy had couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
We sent our best to Vietnam, and when they came back broken, we often treated them in the worst way we could. Andrew wasnt a bad man. He was a brave man whose courage was gambled with by a government whose leaders never left their homes, and he came back broken. God bless Andrew. May he be saved.
And let's recognize that cop. He clearly didnt want to bring any harm upon this man. Such a horrendous tragedy and a reminder of how blessed we are to be safe in our homes today.
i remember that many times people say freedom isn't free, but with things like these, it seems like we expect those we employ to 'keep' freedom end up having to pay for it too.
I think this video by far is the most meaningful job from JCS however it has received the least amount of attention. Probably the most painful to watch.
@MinecraftGuy64 I actually agree with you. But treatment only goes as far as his willingness to participate. It also depends on the quality of help he receives. I have a client who served in Vietnam, (who's also been declared 100% disabled) and anytime he's sought help they just put him on more meds. He's quit taking them altogether, As the meds he was on made him angrier. But also not having complete shit for a government would certainly help
@Ricky Soto Lol dude... he meant Andy B was the "kid" who went to war... but that Andy was left behind... the Andy that came back was a different person, due to the horrors he witnessed and participated in...
You're right he left everything on the battlefield and came back a shell of himself. In his mind the war wasn't over. And being threatened by a man in uniform instantly brought him back to combat mode.
@Henry Clamore Bruh, I don't even like cops, but let's not applaud the murder of someone who was clearly not trying to murder Andy B. Neither of them deserved to die in that encounter.
This could be the saddest video ever. A Hero lost. I’ll only watch this once it’s way too sad. It’s also eye opening. This video needs more views. Tragedy in every sense of the word.
We watch the video of Kyle Dinkheller’s murder in academy and use it for training. The deputy had multiple opportunities to use justified force to end the situation, first regular force and then deadly force, but failed to do so. It is the example case for why cops should know when it is legal to use force and then use that force immediately because trying to be patient can get you killed. It is also an example of why “suicide by cop” continues to be a thing. We have to kill people like this because even though what Andrew really wanted was for Kyle Dinkheller to kill him and end his suffering, when the deputy didn’t he killed him. The line between suicidal and homicidal is razor thin, you can’t hesitate.
Just a brilliant, tragic, and compelling piece of short film making.
And having seen the full video, I appreciate that JCS did not feel the need to include the audio of Officer Dinkheller pleading for Brannon not to shoot him anymore and his chilling scream before the final shot at close range.
I...am also glad for that. I've seen and heard all of the worst shit the internet has to offer....but... those sounds have destroyed a part of me. I always think "Jesus... he can keep going after hearing that?" About Brannan... but then I realize that he lives in a world where ... it is nothing but killing... that poor fucking kid... ... even Andrew knew it was horrible. ... he flat out did not want to do that. He would have protected that kid under different circumstances. ... it's one of the saddest things ever. There are countless saddest things ever...
she has great memory retention, like i understand that it was a traumatic event but she described it almost like an author would in a book, detailed and almost poetic. and the fact that she was staring ahead for most of the time while doing it. one can only imagine the amount of times she was up at night thinking about it.
@CrazyMiles If Jesus died, got resurrected and went to heaven and became the ruler of the universe, he didn't really sacrifice anything. A sacrifice only means something if you actually give something up that is of value. Jesus on the other hand didn't seem to have sacrificed anything : He gained immortality, went to ever-happy paradise and can come back at any point he choses. Not much of a sacrifice in my opinion... 2. If Jesus died for our sins, then our sins are already forgiven. Also, if God is all-forgiving and all-loving, then he'll forgive even if we don't beg for it. No need to repent, no need to worship, everyone will go to heaven regardless of their beliefs or behavior. Yay, logic!
@CrazyMiles Very relevant comment, but since you brought this up: there is no god, you can be free of these children tales and stop believing in magic now. There is magical man in the sky saving you from your dirty thoughts and lust. Enjoy your life, be good to other, there is much more to be in awe of than these made-up stories from bronze age farmers.
@JOSEPH JOESTAR Ok teeny boy I enjoy a good paradox when I see one, and the "biggoted sheep calling other people slaves" is honestly one of my favorite. If you're not trolling, I'm sure a quick glance in the miror will help you put things in the right place, until then keep your leash in your jaw and wait for your master to pick you up
@Fulguro Baboon I'm a sheep of the good shepherd, a slave of the good master. I'm not the Saviour, but I am God's son. I'm living forever, don't know what's gonna happen to you tho, I suppose that choice is yours
That police woman reminds me of my mother who was a policewoman, shit makes me so mad. Those officers weren't bullshitting when they were saying she is an angel, that's how women like that are. They are beyond selfless.
I’m never going to forget this. My father in law is a Vietnam vet. The last, ongoing, generational damage to so many is too great for me to even comprehend.
I can't imagine how an entire jury unanimously agreed on the death penalty in this case. He must not have even tried for an appeal or clemency in this case, because I can't imagine that with more understanding around PTSD that it wouldn't have been overturned. So sad all around.
If anybody is trying to figure out what had to be removed or why everybody's talking about someone no longer mentioned in the video, it looks like JCS had to alter a segment around 8:55. that discussed the case of Markeith Loyd:
- He is a man who, while fleeing, killed Debra Clayton, a police officer - During his arrest, he was permanently blinded in one eye due to multiple kicks. Graphic footage of the arrest gained national attention but did not have significant impact on the trial - However, the defence used the police treatment during his interrogation (where police appeared to instead ridicule/discomfort Loyd as much as possible instead of building a case, which JCS argues was guided by emotion instead of training) to great effect when addressing the jury - The sentence to Loyd was life in prison (instead of death), which JCS claims was a surprise to the general public but not as much to those who followed the case closely as the treatment by police was repeatedly focused on by the defence. JCS uses this to argue that the presence of video (instead of hearing the conduct verbally) may have altered the penalty and created resonating footage - This was then the segue into the police footage and how it was used
It accounts for the ~10 minutes missing from this version. I can certainly see why it was inserted - it creates the right context for the following analysis. Unfortunate that it needed to be removed (for whatever reason was given by YouTube)
@Dalibor Měchura - One of the other comments note that it's currently listed by someone who appears to have uploaded the original version ("JCS The Case of Andy B. Reupload")
Our vets really do deserve better. If he was 66 when he died in 2015, He would've been 19 when he was sent to Vietnam. He was a child when he served, and wanted to die ever since he came back.
@McSnezzly By that logic people shouldn't be allowed to have financial independence or any of the rest of it 'til they hit 25 or so. People's brains don't finish developing until they're nearly a third of the way into their (realistically speaking) lifespan.
@Patrick Harrington As people mature they become capable of taking on more responsibility. Saying that a 19 year old is still one foot in the door of childhood and hence is particularly likely to be traumatised by combat experience (something which even adults have extreme difficulty with), is nowhere near implying that financial independence would be beyond them.
@Xifong Christian ...no it isn't a burden. Plenty of adults don't have financial freedom because someone else pays for all their stuff. But LEGALLY they are financially independent because they have reached the age of being an adult. We don't give children that ability. Not sure in what universe you'd call a 19 year old a kid that is unable to make their own decisions. Unless due to some condition that makes them have the capacity of a child.
@Xifong Christian your point of adult makes it so arbitrary. There 50 year olds that aren't disabled that aren't independent. It's a dumb stance to take with this lol
As long as they can trick kids into signing up the way it is, there wont be any improvement there's no incentive to improve. I agree we need much better for our vets but sadly Im doubtful it'll happen.
So convenient to say 19 is a child when he's sent to war but if he assaulted a schoolgirl y'all would call him a grown man who should've known better. War is immoral, and so is forcing someone to be a soldier and have to experience this horrible situation, but calling someone a child at 19 is outright ridiculous.
Really? The government doesn't give a * about vets. Why would they waste money on mentally fucked up men/woman, disabled, dependent on meds. etc. There is no profit in the investment of a vet. The government invest where there is a profit. People are really delusional how vets will be treated after there is no use for them. My eleven yr old knows the outcome when humans are pumped out to fight wars.
@Patrick Harrington “by that logic”?? How’d you go from being traumatized by live combat to being financially independent? There’s no logic there. It’s a false equivalence.
@Chairsbane I never said that? I literally said they're not a child, I didn't say adults can watch their buddies get killed. Stop twisting my words lmfao.
HIKARISKY me as a 20 almost 21 year old man can say ive always been mature for my age and i still feel like a child more often than not despite the ridiculous amount of responsibility’s resting on my shoulders sending a 19 year old to war is pretty fucked
They allow, even encourage very young men to become soldiers exactly because their brains aren't fully developed yet. This enables more effective training as younger people learn faster and more effectively than older people. The still-malleable mind can be molded more easily. Another reason is that the risk-assessment of younger men is not as developed as in fully grown adult men, and so this is desirable when you wish to ask these people to put themselves in harm's way. The generals and politicians who send these young people to fight these wars do not care about their wellbeing, or they wouldn't send them to do these things. The best way we can do better by our vets is to create as few combat veterans as possible by not "[sending] American boys 8 or 10 thousand miles away to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves" - LBJ.
I remember hearing the death screams from the officer in the original video. It still haunts me to this day. Don’t think I’ll ever recover from that trauma tbh.
Amazing Video. You communicate the situation and emotions perfectly. Not everyone is able to be that neutral, but at the same time specific as you. Amazing man
It's interesting to know the another side of the history behind one of the most eerie dashcam videos around on YouTube. Sadly, Kyle and Andrew were victims of the circumstances.
I watched this last night, and it hasn't left my mind since. I'm so used to people on this channel being simply sadistic or sociopathic. This person.. "I'm glad to be getting out of this place." wasn't any of those. And to think that the officer was trying to do as little harm as possible.. just a really tragic idea.
That final line fucked me up. I discussed this with my girlfriend and the take she had was we failed him. He should not have been in that war. All things considered I’m inclined to agree with her.
"I'm so used to people on this channel being simply sadistic or sociopathic." At first I thought you were talking about the commenters and was like what the hell man, a bit harsh.
Watch the full video of the incident and you won't be as sympathetic. I watched it way before this video and it is one of the more disturbing things I have seen/heard. The sound the officer makes when he dies will never leave you. Yeah, I'm fine with him being put to death.
@John Reynolds the jury was actually picked overwhelmingly in favor of dinkheller, one of the jurors was going to be picked, but displayed knowledge of PTSD, and so was not picked. Some of the jurors debated whether Brannan had PTSD, and one juror debated whether PTSD even existed at all.
The officer really did try... And both of them suffered from the failure of the gov/state. It's incredibly sad, but I am happy Andy is in a better place. I know people will likely see the video start where he was goofing around and dancing, but that's the start of a manic episode. He was unhinged and once he had the rifle in his hand, being yelled at by some stranger... PTSD got him. He wasn't there anymore, he was back in 'nam. Tragic
@Kevin Thomas You are reacting emotionally to a disturbing video. THAT proves JCS is right in his analysis. You are not looking at the whole picture rationally. One of the fundamental aspects in a trial is establishing motive and intent. You are not interested in how and why things happened, you just saw the result, and you made your final judgment. Plenty of innocent people end up in prison or on death row because of this, and this is why jury selection is such an important step. That is also the main reason the death penalty has been abolished in most countries.
@Phantasma I am very aware of that and I don't care. It's just that bad to me Dude could not function safely in society regardless so yeah. Out of curiosity have you seen the video?
@Kevin Thomas you say you don't care. That's the difference between the modern society seeking justice, however imperfect, and the olden way of simple retribution. You should care. One day, you might find yourself in the hot seat, and you would want the world to care.
@Phantasma Well, it's not like he was falsely accused of a crime. Hopefully I don't find myself in a situation where I murder a scared and relatively helpless person but if so then I'm ok with people not caring.
@Kevin Thomas The cop was screaming in pain and terror. As horrible as that is, I didn't expect him to go singing to his death. My point is that there's a huge difference between someone who is in full possession of their mental capacity, and someone who is impaired,between being provoked or not, acting with premeditation or in the heat of the moment, There are distinctions that most criminal law systems have made for a very long time,and for good reason. No action or decision comes in isolation. Because the jury didn't see or care much about the context, you now get two victims. And please explain to me how the execution made things any better. Now you have blood on your hands. Do you really feel like you have restored some balance in the universe?
The police are trained totally different after 9/11. I've been through some anti-terrorist and active shooter training myself. In most instances, if this same scenario would happen now, the Vet would've been shot as soon as he brandished a rifle.
It was a bad war at a bad time. Those people had been fighting for their land for 100 plus years. I dunno what we were thinking. Sadly we've seen that our fear of what would happen if Vietnam went all communist was unfounded so we really never needed to be there
@Corbalte A lot of the examples you've cited either come from notably biased left-wing publications, were inconclusive, offer little to no citations or are just straight up opinion pieces. One of them was even centered around the George Floyd case, ffs.
I never said any kind of racial bias didn't exist and when you start using words like "historically", you're having a different conversation entirely. What I'm saying is that it exists on such a minute level that just about any effects of it are basically nonexistent. There is no "implicit bias" of police against black people. At least, not to any degree that makes a difference.
@Kevin Thomas I watched this video in a community police academy class several years ago, and they gave no background on the perpetrator. And when I saw it just now, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
Jesus Isn'tReal2021-11-17 07:25:28 (edited 2021-11-17 07:26:29 )
The thing is, people simply do not understand the intensity of seeing first hand graphic lethal violence. It's really incomparable, but the only way I can describe it is a very explicit change from one self before, to a different person after. The troubling thing for me was, it was difficult to tell exactly how I'd changed. I seemed to have more sympathy and now empathy for the loss of human life, but the negative impact was far greater. I don't have ptsd, and although I had a very cool job in the military, I'm not some battle hardened veteran either. I did not have a job that was a direct contact job. The negative impact for me was, I can no longer tell if any empathy or sympathy I have for anyone is genuine, or if I'm just trying to force it because that's the norm.
There is something about seeing a mother burn to death walking down the street that is incomparably more intense than any other possible experience. Life just changes and the dangerous thing is, you just can't put a finger on exactly how.
Of all the JCS vids, this one was the most provoking for me. Telling the story of Markeith in order to drive a singular point, was a narrative masterpiece. Well done.
Quite a lot of this video was about the Lloyd case instead of the Brannan one. But I understand the correlation between the two cases via the explanation. These videos are very well planned and executed.
This is the single greatest video documentary out there, the juxtaposition from the beginning to the end of the vid, this is literally a perfectly structured video. This video has a real meaning and lesson, Vietnam was a real war that Is joked about and satirisized far too much. It resonated so clearly. I about cried at the end.
It really just makes me so unbelievably sad. Maybe because someone who was in a horrid place found solace in an animal, something I can relate to a lot.
God. This video just hurt to watch so much. That poor veteran, his poor family, that poor dog, those poor officers.
And knowing how many women have died due to "domestic violence" worldwide, even at the hands of their own FAMILY, compounds the horror. Every woman I know, EVERY one; has had trauma visited upon them by men. To every degree you can imagine. It makes me feel angry and powerless.
@Finished!!!!!! Yeah I've seen that as well. I've actually had to step in before to stop violence but not all guys abuse their partner I never did. Also women do bad things to from my experience they love to manipulate. Which obviously not all women do that and it isn't as serious as violence but it's still wrong.
@RazerXP Yugioh no one was saying women don't perpetuate violence at all . but it's an important thing to realize that almost every woman someone knows in their life has been assaulted or harassed by a man to some degree. do not divert from an important subject and say someone was implying something they weren't.
@normajoe that is not what they were saying and you know that. i'm sorry for the abuse you faced, but women face higher rates of abuse due to their standing in society. many women are abused on the basis of their gender, and men face that type of abuse at much lower rates. again, i'm sorry for the abuse you faced, but you're putting words in that commenter's mouth for no reason.
@kirakira I literally said all not woman do that and I also said not all men are violent. Don't question my respect for women. Men who I've known have treated me like shit but almost every woman I've known has been nice to me and treated me with respect. Even though I respect women more than men doesn't mean I feel like every man is bad because there's good men out there they're just hard to find.
@Finished!!!!!! dude like 90% of normal folks go thru some sort of trauma. That’s what builds good people. Good people are good because they see bad and it shapes them. Bad people keep doing bad. You feel powerless because you’re making it a situation that you feel alone in, which you aren’t.
@Pancake64 Yeah ikr @kirakira called me out and I wasn't even saying anything bad. I was defending women and they basically called me a misogynist which is not true. And yeah I agree with you abuse goes both ways men and women both get abused.
@Finished!!!!!! LMAO! every man i know, EVERY one; has had trauma visited upon them by women. Who is alive that hasnt experienced trauma from both genders?? Your comment downplays actual abuse and sounds arrogantly biased
No one can’t tell me she wasn’t sending messages in the vid she looked over at him so many times and seemed incredibly uncomfortable and just went on and on about her “joke”
@Finished!!!!!! same with men. Sad reality is that there are so many messed up people, and people who don’t know how to deal with that stress given by that person. For me, I was verbally assaulted. I reported the person. Another person may have just kept it in their mind. But that’s just life.
I Saw the Brennan video a while ago on the depths of the internet. Hearing about it from the start, it sounded eerily like this vid I'd seen years ago. As soon as I saw the back of that truck I knew what was going down. It's good to know the story of what really happened.
I love this channel. This is the first video to make me cry like a baby. My dad was a Vietnam vet. We have learned more about PTSD but still have more work to do.
@Chélle I see it as a good thing that youtubers are capable of making better content than a multi billion dollar company I think that’s really cool tbh
@Ghkezsw They’re not YouTubers, they’re professional criminal psychologists analyzing suspects interesting behavior and then reporting it for awareness or education online. It’s a good thing for YouTube viewers, but a sad thing for people who are actively paying and wasting money for generic content when they can easily get access to better content and for free.
@Chélle they are YouTubers because I bet Thier main revenue stream is from YouTube considering the amount of views these guys get and if not they definitely should only focus on yt
Right! A little more content in this video to extend the length a little and i say give it some awards of some sort. I stood up and clapped, just saying 🤘😜
The cops say they need the public’s help. That they’re there to help you, etc. but how many people get screwed by talking to cops for no reason.
Like I don’t remember all the details cause it was such a shocking incident, but not all that long ago, there was a lady who called the cops cause someone broke into her house or something like that, and the cop asks her if she has a concealed carry permit. She says yes, and the cop asks if there’s a gun in the house. She says yes.
He asks why she didn’t notify him and she says she didn’t realize she was supposed to. So he arrests her.
Does every interaction with a cop go like that? Of course not. But it’s also not all that rare either. And that’s just one issue where innocent people get screwed talking to cops on top of many others. If cops want people to work with them they gotta get rid of cops like the one that arrested that woman.
It seems a traffic stop in the US has officers anxious from the opening moment. The voice tone, the commanding instructions, all pitched in highly charged atmospherics from the get go. Its combative tones and instructions, probably fear based and shrill that seems to escalate the moment. Its a simple traffic stop but the interaction from opening is not in any way friendly or conversational in tone or language. Being an officer, a harrowing path in life. Being a Vietnam vet, a harrowing path in life. Wishing both families peace.
Man its really tough to hear the panic in the officer's voice as he is almost begging him to stop his shenanigans. He really did not want to hurt the man.
@Dream Catch - Me If you haven't heard about this, research his involvement in the Phoenix program during Vietnam. He tortured, mutilated and murdered more people there than stateside, and all part of a government counter insurgency program.
@Dream Catch - Me Well, then...if you really want to get the scoop on serial killers, mass murderers and their connections to government programs, satanic/pedo groups and secret societies, I've got a channel for you. It's got a weird name, something like "lolfieldandlove". They go into and expound on a book called "programmed to kill", not sure the author, but he is dead. Completely contradicts the official story on so many well known killers and cases. I thought I knew a thing or two, turns out pretty much everything were told is suspect at best, completely fabricated at worst.
God some people publish such garbage, he did nothing other than work in warehousing facilities in Vietnam. He saw no active duty in terms of battle or anything!
Are they serious right now? So y'all are gonna sit here and say they should have been nice to this guy and loosen his cuffs? Right after he murdered an officer and his baby momma with her unborn child.. they wrong for this
As a former Marine, I agree. It saying I or others would continue, but for those people who have problems, there's no outgoing interview or anything. It's pretty much go visit these places and get out you piece of shit(for not resigning.). They essentially use you and get rid of you when there's no upside to you staying in. I can only imagine it was much worse back in the vietnam era.
Armed forces taught you combat skills, but they did not teach you to abuse them. PTSD is real, but saying they never taught you how to stop is shifting blame. No all veterans are crazy.
"Yah well, the Army made me a killer and I turned out just fine. Blaming the Marines for your own actions is a cop out."-Sheepdog Overwatch-US Army 82nd Airborne Veteran
Although the quote itself holds merit, Shawcross never saw combat and he was known for boasting outlandish brutalities he claimed to have done(although he never did, since he never actually went into combat) and claimed to have seen done by the vietcongs(again, outlandish bullshit according to those who served with him).
@Chaos Burrito The official story of the McMartin preschool incident says that it was all BS, but if you look through the documents on "The Finders" released by the FBI (page 48-49 https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-03/view) reveal that there were in fact tunnels with pentagrams underneath the school, and that the investigations into them ceased suddenly.
@Chaos Burrito 1. Pg 36 and the statements on it are NOT related to the McMartin case. They are referring to the initial case regarding the Finders that started in Washington, hence the reference to search warrants carried out by the Washington MPD, and the fact that on pg 35, the report is directed to the Washington field office. The McMartin case was in California.
2. The FBI report explicitly states that the pentagrams were drawn by an adult after examination by an archaeologist.
3. At the time of the investigation and trials, it was claimed that these underground tunnels didn't even exist, and that none were found after excavation. This clearly contradicts the FBI report. at the time, the alleged fact that tunnels didn't exist at all was one of the biggest pieces of evidence used against the prosecution.
....and yet, virtually all Marines stop killing, which is to say, Mr Shawcross, that others walked the shared your paths/experiences and didn't make the choices that you made. Hmmm. Next argument?
@Voice Of Reason completely false, he just made this up. He never even saw action, and furthermore the torture committed in the phoenix program was done by South Vietnamese intelligence under the supervision of US intelligence officials. Shawcross was never an intelligence officer
1. He was fucked up from childhood. 2. He served in the Army and not the Marines and never saw combat (though he claimed to) so I find it unlikely to be his quote.
@inyrui their existence is not a myth, but the rest is. There's a few theistic Satanic groups, but they are mostly for people to feel better by being in hermetic society. Exactly as the freemasonry. Ego-boosting groups which are totally not a threat to society. Well, with some exceptions like Order of Nine Angels, but I'd consider it at first as neo-nazi group.
@Simon Folkard Exactly! Saw it in another video, an interview of his. Some officers who knew him from Vietnam confirmed that and said he never saw any combat. So, all those stories about him being gnarly in Vietnam, cannibalizing and all are just his fabrication. He did, however, kill two children in the early 50s' (I guess) and the sack of shit, when asked about it, was disgruntled and said to the interviewer that he'll leave the interview. Despicable!
@Priyankar Chakraborty Exactly he feels no guilt about those horrific crimes, yet he knows how despicable they are and he doesn't want to discuss it. Like every serial murderer an utter coward.
Disabled combat veteran here & now I spend a large chunk of my time reading/watching ‘True Crime.’ content. Any veteran with a lick of sense can hear Shawcross’ stories and know he is absolutely FOS. His military record is available you know, he didn’t even see any action. Like most criminals with a bit of military service, they besmirch the rest of us by using it as an excuse for their behavior. Hooah.
I believe in treating all with at least some respect but the "I need medical" pisses me off. So did those two women and baby. They needed help yet he didn't stop. The detective said it straight. He deserves as much respect as a rabid dog. I would say even less than that.
What that man did was horrible, and he deserved to see justice. But all people deserve medical attention, and it was no one's job on that police force to injure a man, call him an animal, and deny him medical care, ultimately ending in blindness. If that were done by anyone other than police officers, that would be criminal action.
Not defending this man in particular, but pushing back on the system that allows cops to do whatever they want at whatever cost with no repercussions or regard for basic human dignity.
@owievisie I think he deserved no mercy whatsoever, but i have to agree that they have to do their job right and try to be impartial in those kind of situations... even though it must be impossible to be honest becaue i would beat the shit out of him lol
when you gonna make more videos!?!? I watched all of your videos, I love em! and I been watching people who were inspired by you since.. You have inspired a lot of people to make these types of videos but none of them go into as much depth in the psychology of it all like you do and though their videos are good.. there's just some thing missing... They just don't do it like you. Your videos are so well done it's like a show you'd see on TV.
I've seen the video of Andrew and the cop multiple times in the past. I always wondered what the backstory was, and as I guessed it's a sad and messed up one. Atleast his pain is over, it's unfortunate he had to take Kyle with him.
I was taking a Lyft two years ago in Denver. Driver saw my name and asked me where I was from. I responded I am from Croatia. He said he was there as well as Bosnia. I expected he would share stories how beautiful the coast was and other touristy stuff. Instead, all of the sudden, he said the following: I didn't kill them. I just shot them in the legs and arms He was clearly talking about Bosnian war. I somehow hid my horror to what I was hearing. He quickly changed the subject to usual small talk. The wars leaves scars for life man...
I've had a similar experience. I found myself in a car with a Serbian and out of nowhere he started talking about his reoccuring nightmares, the only way he could fall asleep was to keep a firearm under his pillow. I don't remember everything clearly, but I think he was pretty honest about what he did, basically murdered a ton of people on the side of a road. And he felt such guilt that it spilled over when he found someone he didn't know, so he felt comfortable enough to talk about it.
Yugoslav war was such an unnecessary war that created one of the most horrific periods is human history. Not many people know about the horrors of that war but it's a prime example of tribal mentality and human ego. Many people died over something as meaningless as ethnicity. Are we not all human?
Stvarno je nevjerovatno sta rat moze napraviti ljudima i da se to desavalo i jos uvijek desava I onda kada se desi nesto kao kad veteran popizdi i napravi nesto lose prebaci se na njega Nije kriv veteran, krivi su oni koji su ih napravili takvima, oni koji se neznaju pobrinit za cudoviste koje su oni sami napravili
@BMW M5 I agree that the war could've been avoided, but pretending that ethnicity and religion are "meaningless" for one's personal identity is partially the reason for this war. For 45 years communists were forcing everyone in Yugoslavia to like each other by telling them "ethnicity is meaningless" and we're all just Yugoslavs, well, it turned out that "let's just pretend we're friends and that everything is ok" tactics without actually solving the problems that existed among the people only backfired at the end.
I'm Slovenian; I was 13 when it started. Later on, I think it was 2011; I had a similar experience here in Holland. A Dutchman, who was a blue helmet in Bosnia at the time, out of the blue told me horrors he witnessed. Oh, I was in Sarajevo for work in 2010, knowing the language I engaged in conversations with the taxi drivers. A few of them told me terrible things they experienced. Yeah, heard similar in Syria, Iraq and Yemen in recent years.
@BMW M5 You dont know much about Eastern Europe, and especially the Balkans if you think the war was fought over ethnicities and that they are meaningless.
@Autism is Uncontrollable I don't know much at all about the Balkans. Being an American, that's not something they use a lot in our "propaganda films".
Once in Orlando, we had to pick a cab during a hurricane, we thought we were stranding because no one would ever drive while a tornado was in close proximity. This italian american guy, though, was driving and he said to the likes of "Oh, I don't fear them, more costumers for me" he later told us he was a vet of Afghenistan and used to think of the sound of the bullets hitting his convoy as rainfall and of explosions as thunder so he could sleep. War is hell
I think another facet of him getting the death sentence is the end of that video. He wounds the cop and you can hear him screaming in pain/fear, only for Andy to calmly walk up to him and finish him. It's truly horrifying, and I can't honestly say I wouldn't be biased like the jury was after seeing it.
I remember watching the shootout with Andy and the police officer. It was very difficult to watch. The police officer screamed for his life, and eventually you could hear him take his last breath while Andy shot him in the face… Tragic… I feel for our men and women in blue…
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
One question I have always asked. How do these lawyers take cases like this and tried defend such evil people. I mean if someone confessed with damming evidences. HOW just F how!
Have you considered doing the Brendon Dassey interview as an example of what NOT to do in an interrogation? As many people say that they didn't just do an alternative question, but actually planted the ideas in the head of a non-neurotypical and unintelligent individual
I miss you dude. Do you upload new videos anywhere else or did you stop altogether? That would be a goddamn tragedy if you did quit. You are the best and always will be. We need you please return!
Literally same. New videos didn't get recommended anymore so I checked out the channel, just to find out I already fully watched every single one. Except this one.
Chris Anderson2021-06-03 05:09:40 (edited 2021-06-03 05:18:54 )
Dang. You started late. This video has had some audio edits where it said if you looked up the police shootout video it would be horrifying to watch, etc. If you’re squeamish don’t look it up. He removed his audio about it at all, and it was way more impactful before he removed the audio.
Also there’s a fantastic video about Jussie Smollett that I think was removed due to stupid DMCA music in the intro, one of his best intros ever, but you’ll have to find it elsewhere now cuz it’s not on Jim’s channel anymore. Edit: it’s still there but unlisted, maybe legal action was threatened. Just look it up on Google you can still find it easily enough
I’m seeing a lot of Same’s.. seems YouTube finally giving Jim’s channel a ton of new fans, yet here I am been watching since before a few video removals and audio edits years ago lol
I've been watching this channel from time to time for a while now but I'm glad to see so many new people finding it through that video. Truly some of the best true crime content on YouTube.
this comment is exactly mf own experience with this channel. started the same day as you, on the same video. ended the same day as you, on the same video
Something like this, got some other video recommended earlier. I'm not a true crime fan, but I love this channel. The narrator's voice is perfect and I love the way he describes stuff.
it's my last video too and i didn't even follow youtube algorithme ordre or any kind of order i just watched the videos randomly maybe the thumbnail has something to do with it or maybe the video short length make it looks like it's not interesting to watch the youtube warnings in the start of the video my effect the order too because i was about to watch this video earlier but because of all the warnings i kept it for last till i created a youtube account just to watch it.
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
raises hand i've watched like five of these videos just today. and all because 'what pretending...' was posted to a fakedisordercringe subreddit. down the rabbit hole i go, i'm subscribed to this channel now
I too started with pretending to be crazy and this is also my last one. This is MONSTERS is another good true crime channel despite the poor grammar in their name
this is the first time i have ever had to verify my age with a bank card. Smh. I don't think I agree with it, but nevermind here I am binge watching some more. :D. ahaha.
@Chris Anderson same here! I knew i found his channel a while back and loved his content. then the stuff was gone and found his channel again when he posted the chris watts stuff. I miss the older content too and donno why exactly they were removed :/
woah this was really hard to watch, imagining him talking and screaming with himself is the worst nightmare i could imagine i'm glad i survived war without losing anyone from my family and most of my relatives but it makes life so difficult after it and what this man saw was way more than i ever did war destroys people and what this man lived destroyed him completely to the point that he was acting on his true new nature (crazy) reimagined himself being in war again when he saw the gun and woke up again when he realized what he did and couldn't express himself nor apologies enough so he was glad to be getting out of this place
Death penalty was given to the wrong cop killer, and that's coming from someone that thanks and loves the police. That sounds horrible, but I know Vietnam veterans, I could definitely see someone being so far gone. To this day, I will still thank god for the police and our judicial system and the DAs & juries that play role of the gears. I hope all effected parties are doing as okay as they can to this day.
Just noticed that the Markeith part was cut from the video. Also found out that the guy who killed his girlfriend and the cop outside a Walmart has been sentenced to death.
My great uncle (my gdad's brother) fought in Vietnam and it fucked him up for the rest of his life. He was in charge of a group of guys and sent them out one day. One of the guys told my uncle he wasnt going because he was going home in 2 weeks and he'd more than likely get killed if he went. My uncle told him he had to go, didnt have a choice. Well, he went and sure enough he got shot and lived long enough for him to look at my uncle and say "I told you". My uncle would break down crying randomly throughout his life because that incident haunted him.
A lot of people really don't get what war does to the human mind. I have nothing but respect to our Veterans that serve with honor, and I hope Andrew was able to find the peace he was looking for.
markeith lloyd's case was awful, but it gave the police the incentive to avoid police misconduct, or it could jeopardize the case against someone who they really want going to jail
I saw this dashcam footage years ago and I remember the screams of the officer haunting me (they weren't shown here). I didn't know all of the background behind it, or the court decision it caused. With the context, it looks a lot more tragic. A country that forced Andrew to go to war, left him to deal with the repercussions on his own, and then finally executed him when he snapped. Officer Kyle Dinkheller was simply doing his job on a simple traffic stop, and was extremely patient with Andrew. But all Andrew could see was the officer's weapon and was in fear of his life, just like he had been before. Neither of them deserved this, even more so when you factor in that they had both served in the same war.
You could say that the responsability of both of their deaths is with the united states government. That young boy back in the sixties was turned into a mindless killing machine to protect the interests of his government and now when years later he does what he only learned to do, kill, the nation gets rid of him as if it wasn't their fault
Andrew wasn’t in fear of his life. He was prancing around like a pony and acting aggressive towards the cop, until he got bored and killed Kyle in cold blood.
@Allison Hogarth Wow, you sure do love vagueness. Be more specific than "literally anything about psychology." Also I watched and listened to the video, I understand everything that happened. Asking if I even watched the video achieves nothing. Instead of going on the offensive and trying to attack me, why don't you explain what you disagree with.
@Alex a person killing someone in the midst of a PTSD episode is almost by definition not a cold blooded murder lmao. Cold blooded implies it was planned beforehand or done via rational thinking
@The Silenced I think the "patient" comment refers to the fact that he had multiple opportunities to kill him, and would have been justified in doing so, but tried his very best not to open fire.
I'm not a big fan of cops, but this guy really tried hard to avoid killing. Unfortunately, he ended up dying because of that.
@xmisterpilgrimx Two guys with guns meet on the road and scream at each other and you think one is more justified than the other in killing someone. Weird, right?
@The Silenced Well, look at it like this - the cop had his firearm out and had numerous opportunities to fire on someone he knew was armed and confrontational, but didn't, whereas the veteran fired at his first opportunity - when he actually took the firearm and pointed it at the cop. It seems to me like one of those parties showed more restraint than the other.
Don't get me wrong, as I said before, I'm no fan of the police, and there are definitely trigger happy assholes in uniform, I just don't get the impression this guy is one of them.
@The Silenced I disagree. He started with a pretty simple "step back here" followed by "how are you doing today" and then "keep your hands out of your pockets" (a reasonable concern), after which the vet says "fuck you" followed by "shoot my ass", dances around like a lunatic, and then behaves increasingly more aggressively from this point on.
He didn't cause the initial escalation. And then, after the guy is acting crazy and approaching him aggressively, he's supposed to... What exactly? Then the guy reaches into his truck, after which he shows a weapon - how was the officer supposed to deescalate the situation at that point?
Look at the video again, and see if you can point out what actions were wrong and what you think he should have done instead, using timestamps from the dashcam. You seem to feel like you know how this should have been handled differently, so I'm curious as to how you would achieve a deescalation with the aggressive, armed, mentally disturbed military veteran.
I'll say it once again, I'm no fan of police, but I just don't see what you're seeing here. To be clear, sure, he could have gone out of his way to be super sweet, that's always true, but you're framing this as though he did something wrong, or was the cause of the escalation, and I just don't see whatever you're seeing to come to that decision. Perhaps if you explain in detail it will be clearer.
@xmisterpilgrimx The officer clearly didn't know what to do in case of a difficult (and mentally ill) individual, and didn't know how to de-escalate a situation that risks turning violent,he completely lost his composure when the man started acting funny and just resorted to shouting, which devolved into complete panic when he shiwed the gun.
He was not guilty for it, the vet made his own decisions and was responsible for them, but the officer absolutely didn't help the case, and if he had acted differently he most likely could have calmed the situation and avoided a violent confrontation.
So the vet didn't comply, didn't act nice and started to get agitated? Guess what, that's what happens in police work. You need certain social skills and eye for social cues to calm a distressed citizen down, and most of all you need training for situations like this. I'm sure the issue here was the latter, police officers in America receive woefully inadequate training, they only receive a couole months of training which barely covers the basics and doesn't prepare them for difficult situations like dealing with people with mental illness. If the unfortunate officer had received proper training before being allowed on field alone he might still be alive today
@Exantius E Well, I can't really argue with that. Training for officers is woefully inadequate when it comes to mental health issues. I'm not sure that I agree it was possible to deescalate this situation, but I can't definitively say it's not possible.
I do believe that, considering the way it played out, it would have been hard to blame the officer if he had used deadly force once the weapon was identified, as his life was in imminent danger (as evidenced by his being killed shortly after). I also think it's tough to say whether or not trying to holster his weapon and talk the guy down would have increased his risk once the vet was aggressive, but that's all Monday morning quarterbacking - we can speculate about other ways this might have played out, but with someone this mentally ill, it's very difficult to reliably predict the outcome of other alternatives.
It was definitely clear from the vets behavior that he was unstable in some way, and I agree that it's a shame the officer didn't have training to fall back on for a scenario like that. Then again, one could argue that he had a duty to subdue him specifically BECAUSE he was unstable and therefore a possible threat to himself or others (especially once it was evident that he was armed), which makes deescalation much more difficult.
Regardless, it's clear you raise some cogent points about policing in general and this case in particular. Thank you for the interesting response.
@xmisterpilgrimx I don't think the officer was to blame, he did not have the training or the experience to deal with that kind of situation. And once the man threatened him with a gun hewas in his rights to shoot, as said in the video. If he had shot the man dead I probably would have thought that he could've done better and should take this as a learning opportunity so next time he was prepared, not that he should receive a pumishment. The vet was failed by the mental health services and the officer by his trainers, overall it was two very sad and pointless deaths
@Exantius E Agreed, two tragic, preventable deaths, basically caused by the failure of the system for the very people that defend and uphold it. As you said, a failure to train the cop, and a failure to provide adequate assistance to the vet. It sounds like we're both ultimately on the same page at this point.
Unfortunately, I suspect the lessons learned by those in power will be along the lines of "warrior training would have kept him safe" and "law enforcement is like a war". The funds that could be used to train officers to better handle the mentally ill and/or treat those who need mental health care will instead be spent to train officers that they're under constant threat, how they can better use force to maintain control, or that they're warriors on a sacred mission from god, and their biggest focus is to go home at the end of the day, even if that means using deadly force because a suspect MIGHT be reaching for a weapon. Violence, dominance, and incarceration instead of training, service, and care. Reaction instead of prevention.
The saddest part about these deaths is that the next time this happens, there's no reason to believe the outcome will be any better. At the end of the day, nothing was learned, and history is bound to repeat itself. That, in my mind, is the real tragedy.
@xmisterpilgrimx I think you hit the nail in the head there. It's sad to see the same problems we had decades ago are still not adressed, how we go on year after year repeating the same mistakes. Some say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result; by that definition this country is either insane or doesn't even expect things to change
@Alex cold blooded is not like, a scientific term and means different things to different people, but although this guy was ruthless (another term for cold blooded), general a cold blooded killer is more like a planned strangulation by a loved who saw their husband chest on them--Chris Watts and others murderers fit this. But a PTSD war vet shooting a cop, that's hot blood. That's fire and passion, living in a flashback, not the present. Cold blooded implies lack of emotion, detachment, even boredoms while committed the act , but this dude found glee and pleasure in it. it's a crime of passion. Not cold at all.
After personally being abused and terrorized by racist police, I hate to admit, that hearing his desperate squeals brought me solace and healing. Ugh. What a world we live in. Hope it gets better. Demonized enemy for the color of my skin b. Fuck.
@Alex In the end it seems like the other person didn't respond to you in a specific manner, so let me try. I agree with you that Andrew certainly wasn't in fear of his life, but your second sentence reads like you missed the point of why he did what he did. He was prancing around like a pony and acting aggressive towards the cop because he was essentially trying to commit suicide by cop. Once his final attempt at suicide failed, which is jerking his head up in a manner that would indicate he's about to shoot, especially that he had shown Kyle that he is armed, something in his mind snapped and he went for the kill while trying to make himself a harder target to hit (opposite to what he did before the "snap") which, at least to me, doesn't seem like an act of boredom and deciding "hmmm today i will shot myself some cop" but an act of insanity, which i believe to be understandable, considering the vietnam background and the resulting PTSD. I've been taught that cold-blooded in cases like these means emotionless and without remorse. I don't know much about what kind and range of emotions a PTSD ridden person that just "snapped" goes through, but his final words before execution show that he felt remorse, so can this murder be considered cold blooded? Perhaps it depends on what definition of cold blooded you follow.
@Allison Hogarth I believe he's one of those tunneled people, like those jurors, who's once shown the video, would drop all the back stories and the reason why they were there and that one particular event or reason that led to the trial they're being summoned to be juror of.
It seems once he saw that "jolly" Andrew in the video, he forgot everything that the video had earlier explained prior to showing the video. Even worse than those juries who might learn on the backstory as the trial went on.
@Alex They mean you haven't learned anything about the case at hand.
Severe PTSD, under a stressful situation, like being off of MEDS and thus suffering Withdrawal, which in case of psychoactive medication often means that symptoms return MUCH more amplified - it is no wonder he flipped, acted like a goof.
They often goofed around like that in Nam as well, a mechanic to fool death and to have a good time even though just 2 hours ago, in field, 6 people got blown and shot to pieces by the Vietcong.
It was his amplified symptoms of his PTSD showing through, and not 'prancing and dancing and then wanting to kill'.
The US also often did a "show of power" to the VC. Showing off Manpower and Vehicles and Air superiority. In hopes of making them retreat.
That he showed his gun and then waited what the "enemy" would do, shows that he was merely trying to see how far the other person would go. Just like the Warfare in Nam was. Showing presence and seeing how the enemy react. He was used to enemies fighting under cover and guise, in shelter and ambushes. So in his mind it went 'click', and he identified the Police Officer as "charlie sitting behind a technical, waiting in ambush". Aka, an enemy soldier, sitting behind his armored or at least fighting-capable vehicle, waiting to spring out and cowardly one-shot him when he least expected it.
Being on Medication does the funkiest things - being OFF of medication in an unsupervised manner, does the WORST kind of funky things. Flashbacks, reality altering, perception twisting effects.
@Alex yes that is the dictionary definition of being cold-blooded but going by the legal definition, being killed in cold blood entails "a state of mind marked by premeditation and deliberateness" and is usually used to describe first-degree murder. it's different from being killed in a "heat of passion," meaning it implies that the murder is in no way premeditated and it's either spurred by provocation or an agitated state of mind
I have a hard time seeing him as being in fear for his life. He charged that officer while unarmed. then went back to his truck, then got his gun. He was gunning for a fight from the beginning, not in fear. Whether that fight response is the result of his PTSD is immaterial.
like JCS, and regardless of Andy's background, I think it's the officer's fault, he really, really should have let it go and the veteran gave despite his illness and the fact that you can't just evade a cop by running away tried his best to scare off the cop, the guy was persistent and adamant to assert his power and prove himself even though it was very clear from the video that he was dealing with a mentally unstable person committing a relatively harmless, victimless crime.
@Alex He was off his meds for 2 weeks. His meds that otherwise left him 100% disabled. He suffered from an extreme form of PTSD and had manic episodes. He was off his rocker for sure, but it wasn't his fault. The rocker was pulled out from under him when he lost his whole family two times over. First time in the war, second time in the weeks leading up to the event. That would send anyone into manic episodes and make them want to die.
Wtf this is so good!!! I actually teared up at the end haha it felt like an ending of a great movie. By far my favorite video of jcs. Thank you so much for this!
My father did two tours in Vietnam. His twin brother was set to leave for Vietnam also. My dad wrote several letters to high ranking government officials and top politicians in New Jersey. My dad stayed another year in Vietnam so his twin wouldn't have to go to war too. My dad is my hero ❤️
I used to drive by the exact place this went down everyday. I remember when it happened and they played the video on the news. Brutal for all involved.
absolutely awful. just another sad example of the crimes of war. those who left alive are the ones who are suffering the most... truly a tragedy. I hope and pray that those pointless war over oil and money will one day end.
Yeah... can you imagine. Just awful. I pray they have found some sort of peace in knowing their children are in a place where they will no longer hurt. So heartbreaking. I can't even fathom that kind of hurt
Mustafa A. Ever heard of a draft? And I bet the same people complaining in the comments voted for Biden who wants to increase troops in the Middle East. Actually it seems like everyone but Trump wants to increase troops in foreign countries.
@YallCrazy True!! I am muslim and I vote for Trump. Obama, Bush etc all started war. Trump ended ISIS and brought back the troops = ended the war. Biden was vice president when Obama created the cages for mexican children to seperate them from their parents
I had 3 great uncles in the war , 1 got a metal plate in his head , 1 lost half a leg , and the other was Kia, the damage on both sides of the war was unnecessary, Our leaders send our people to die , non stop! Maybe we should force the Senate and Congress to go to battle!
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@Mustafa A. I've been to Vietnam, the people are hopeless under communism, which is more crooked than capitalism. No system stops greed. The troops in Hue were NVA regulars, soldiers in uniform. Don't blame a soldier for obeying his countries call. You should be more sensitive to his parents, one died by suicide, one in accident and the third put to death. A cop died also .. a tragedy all around.
@vIPR Trump is the only President that didn't start any forever wars. His foreign policy accomplishments will be legendary. A very excellent President.
@Dijango001 I disagree, Trump hit China really bad, the economy in China went to shit by the end of 2019. Guess what happened after? A pandemic 😷, and it started from China. Is it all just a coincidence? 🧐
@U-Free Trump: pulls out of the ttp, China enters it and now is trying to lead it Trump: taxes Chinas products, china opens factorys in maleysa and vietnam (enemys of chima) for the last Assimilation part, dodging the tax and creating Jobs in countrys who were opposed to china. Also they simply started to sell some products for a smaller price to other countrys. Trump: leaves europe alone and tries to change up market deals (which is nothing bad if done right) fails at it, europe starts drifting towards china, some even protecting china since they helped their economy of the respective country. EVERYTHING trump did helped china, even those Things with whom he tried to stop china. Trump was the best Thing that could have happened to them.
I had no idea that this was THAT police shooting until 7 minutes in. I watched said dashcam footage when I was in high school back when YouTube was in its infancy. I still think about it to this day. It really chilling how the traffic stop unfolds and made me realize I don’t have what it takes to be a police officer.
Oh my god, Jim, I’ve been waiting for one of you videos during the quarantine for the longest since they’re extremely well made and informative. I binged all of them a while ago and I can safely say I am not dissatisfied, keep up the great work man!
Yes, definitely become a patron. Without hyperbole, the $1 per month is far and away the best value for entertainment that I’ve ever had and will undoubtedly never be topped. This video on his Patreon is like 4x longer and you have an archive that will make your quarantine boredom beg for mercy. I’ll pay for your first month if you want.
Just to add to the others and confirm. Patreon is definitely worth it. Jim C Swim just dropped a very compelling video about Aileen Wuornos. He has a rare gift of presenting the information in a way which is not telling you what to think and is so balanced you are able to form your own conclusions.
rojeezee Thank you for letting me know, I’m not going to take that dollar from you so that you can give it to Jim once again ;), but I am for sure going to sign up since I love this content. I appreciate you showing me this
My father was a Vietnam Veteran. He hated the Fourth of July because of the firecrackers. My mom told me it was a trigger for his PTSD (I’m guessing because it sounded like gunshots) but I never witnessed him having an episode until one Fourth of July, the firecrackers were going off really loud and he went straight to the floor. I tried to talk to him but he was responding as if he was speaking to someone else and saying Vietnamese words or names. My mom intervened and talked him through so he can come back around. Me and my sister I were worried for him and it was a wake up call for me about what he must have really gone through. He passed away from liver cirrhosis when I turned twelve.
My uncle was in the war, he died in August 19th 2018 from cancer, cancer that was from the agent Orange. I’m so sorry for your loss, it’s hard I still have all his medals and his uniform. Truly terrible how they were treated when coming home as well. My uncle was 19 when he served.
@Hannah Lynn Sorry to hear about your uncle, it’s so sad to hear about what they exposed them to, especially at such a young age. I wonder if the veterans ever got compensation for agent orange. My mother who worked in the VA hospital for years told me so many Vietnam Veterans suffered from very similar illnesses and she thinks it was the agent orange that did it
I have no doubt that he was a casualty of the war. Decades later, however I'm sure he drank to fend off the demons from his time there. (If that is what gave him cirrhosis). I'm sorry for your loss.
I feel so bad for all the Veteren who lose their lives because of the wars. I still don’t understand why America sent its people to war in a foreign country, Vietnam, Iraq. Many said the reason was oil and gas resources, and they said, "I serve the country". THAT'S NOT EVEN YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT YOUR WAR!!
Is it for humanity?? I don't think so! Just greedy political games of higher ranking politician.
Damn...my uncles all served in nam' one doesn't talk about his experiences and refuses to step foot in America. Im sorry about your dad and hope you're having a great day.
We heard stories similar to this one again and again and we know the horrors of war even though mankind stands on the brink of war again nowadays because of its bloodthirsty leaders and individual issues projected on the bogeyman. I'm sick of it.
Yoo I know about this case it happened close to me I been to place of the accident. Veteran got executed but he really didn't deserve it. . I remember watching the dash cam footage about it. You could hear the officer screams . Shit sucks for both parties. Crazy you reviewing this case
As an Iraq War combat vet, I felt this video. I was wounded in action in 07 and medically retired from the Army in 2010. It has been a struggle. I too have pretty severe PTS, depression, anxiety, nightmares, hyper vigilance. In patient and out patient treatment programs. Homelessness and self destructive behaviors. The only thing that has kept me from totally spiraling is my daughter. I hold it together most days. Go to group therapy at the vet center once a week(not during covid though). I see a psychiatrist and psychologist semi regularly. Maintaining some kind of connection with fellow vets on a regular basis has helped a lot. Only others that have been there, get it. I feel so deeply for the 22 veterans a day that take their own lives. The demons of these wars never cease. We have to stay vigilant and keep pushing forward. Especially for our families that have seen us struggle and in many cases, struggled right along with us. If anyone needs an ear, feel free to reach out and message me, veteran or not. A little empathy and compassion goes a long way, especially in these times the elitists are trying so hard to divide us.
I'm just some random stranger online but I wish nothing but the best for you bro. I can't imagine how mentally scarring war must be but I hope on those hard days you push through and that you and your daughter can share wonderful moments together.
My fiancé could use someone to talk to. He’s in the Marines, and served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wakes up from nightmares, in cold sweats, grasping his gun. He’s speaking to a therapist, but I don’t know if it’s beneficial. Thank you for reaching out to others, in an attempt to help. That speaks a lot to your character.
Not a vet or anything but depression and anxiety suck (I know from experience), so I get it's tough. I'm really glad you've got a great support system that seems to be helping. Wishing you the best <3
So sad you had to pay your well being and probably more, for an unjust disgusting war! I don't thank anyone for holding a gun. So no thanks here. I just hope you get well.
The fact you are working on it like you are describing is a testament of your strength. I have suffered from ptsd for 16 years, only not war related wich is a blessing. It was untreated for as long as I have been in treatment. Thankfully I found a psychiatrist who eventually helped me. I now have been "cured", or how you like to call it. I now have to live with the fact that im a 13 year old emotionally and I'm a complete weirdo to others with how I act and think. The things your describing I know all to well just other triggers. It's a difficult fight and I hope you may one day find your peace back and enjoy the feeling of freedom. Keep doing what gives you strength and enjoyment, give yourself a slack sometimes and try see the ridiculousness in things that might normally irritate you and laugh it away. That's what I did to lighten things up a little, how ever hard it was sometimes. But most importantly don't ever give up, you are worth it!
talking to other vets helps me alot. Its the only time I feel sane tbh! This dudes comment about peopld thinking they understand it all because they saw some news footage really resonated with me.
I teared up reading this. First off let me say, thank you for your service. The best way to treat PTSD and the vet problems in this country is to stop with the needless wars over commodities. I pray that you continue to get the help you need and you soon find peace.
Sorry, but I'll save my empathy for the civilians in Iraq who's country YOU chose to invade and burn down. Trust me, the children in Iraq are by far more traumatised, depressed, anxious and have nightmares and so are their families. Had you not been involved in Iraq I genuinely would have empathized you but in this case I'll save it for those who deserve it. I don't empathize invaders. I hope your daughter never experiences what the daughters in Iraq experience.
@Joseph Freeman I never said it was a competition. Either you're deliberately straw manning my position or you are incapable of reading basic English. Which one is it? When someone invades and terrorizes your home, tears it down, kills your family I don't think you'll empathize him either if he claims he's 'traumatised' by being wounded.
TrashPanda - (plz excuse me, English is not my native language, no offence ment wheni choose the wrong words)✊ Keep it up. There will be ups and downs. The pain never leaves but you learn to live with it. I hope you can let go of the feeling of injustice. As you unfortunately have experienced the world is’nt fair. It’s hard and brutal. When we try to understand those evil and absurd things we might lose ourselfs. I hope you can supervicialy enjoy the enormous beauty life also offers like your daughter. Nobody’s expecting miracles from you, you already have put more weight in than asked for. You’ve given everything and that is more than the average dad/family member does. Be proud.not off the position you are in but off what you did and endured 2 get there. Don’t ever feel guilty for accidentaly exposing her and other loved ones to your doubts and monsters as long as you work on fighting those monsters. People who love you will see your fight, all be it with ups and downs. Much respect from the Netherlands.
Thanks for sticking it out brother. I went to iraq after you. With the help of my girl, family, and veteran friends I managed to turn my life around. I hope you're able to do the same. I get sad sometimes but I look at the name on my bracelet and I know he would want me to keep going. It wasn't for nothing if we take our experience and use it to make life better for those who cannot.
@Anonymous its the fact you felt the need to tell someone their ptsd is not valid. cant believe i need to explain that to you. you have never felt real pain and it shows
Killing to push for another man agenda is wrong. Its like your a robot being controlled and told what to do and who to kill without having your opinions weighed. The only time killing someone is appropriate, is when your protecting your family or yourself from getting killed.
Thank you for your service, sir! please stay strong, the world would be at a loss without a man as generous as you are to offer help to complete strangers. my heart goes out to you for what you have suffered, once again, stay strong for yourself and your girl!❤️
i dont even know how to start this comment but I just feel the need to tell you that you've felt things that no one should ever have to feel, physical and mental feelings that should never have to happen. and the fact that even with that you want to extend your hand for others is beautiful
I’m not a vet but I have PTSD. It’s tough, and I feel you. I just want you to know that you are strong and resilient. You are valuable to this universe.
Are the elitists the one to send you overseas? Well didn’t you choose it yourself to go to another country and bring your “American freedom and democracy” there?
@Anonymous exactly! Are all these people insane ? saying thanks to this killer here. He chose to go to a foreign country to kill and now complains about life that he has. What about all those lives that he took?
I never understood how if the police abuse a suspect then the suspect, no matter what the crime, will result in a lesser sentence. Why would they not prosecute the officers for their crime.
Would love to see the analysis that explains how and why the female eyewitness in the red shirt is so believable as a comparison to the guilty parties who try to come across as innocent.
Government trains a man to kill and puts him through living hell mentally damaging him then crucified him in the court what a joke rip to both the officer and the soldier
…on the Markeith Lloyd video- the police made the man crawl to them for a good distance then jumped on him and kicked him and assaulted him ( not that he didn’t deserve it ) but when the police can pick and choose what laws they want to enforce OR ignore , that’s when all trust in the system is lost
You know what’s also “driven into the dark and out of sight”? That he also was certainly complicit in many other murders, but that’s not convenient to bring up for this narrative due to the need to frame military service as a sort of good deed. Side note, you can be complicit in state sanctioned killing and still maintain a degree of victim hood, it isn’t binary though jingoists love to maintain it is. To this day that entire dimension is kept tucked as far from view as possible, because those random civilians are yet classified as “the enemy” in the American psyche. Almost all you people are seriously damaged and do not want to confront it, with so many of the architects of mass murderers who held offices then are still enjoying their retirement, and no one (outside the few ‘nutters’ in CODEPINK) actively show the least bit concerned for justice for enormous crimes if done in the name of the empire.
Moral of the story: War is not fun in any way, and absolutely ruins people and nations. I am deeply sorry for anyone who may have suffered from its aftereffects.
@Hank Hardigan Well.. it nearly only come down to who has more money. Why don't comparise the bank statemant and one accept his defeat? Fun fact. I'm German.
@Jacob walker Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia were originally known as French Indochina, and apart of the French Colonial Empire, Vietnam was briefly occupied by Japanese forces during WW2, and afterwards, Vietnamese sentiment became fiercely nationalistic and communistic, with a guerilla force known as the Viet Minh fighting a war with the French in what became known as the First Indochina War, started in 1946 and ending in 1954.
Because of the political situation surrounding the Cold War, Vietnam ended up divided into two parts much like North and South Korea, the formerly French backed puppet monarchy and provisional government formed South Vietnam in opposition to communism and received tremendous backing by NATO and NATO-Allied forces, including France, Australia, The Republic of Korea, Japan and perhaps most important of all; The United States of America. South Vietnam however had an extremely tumultuous political history of assassinations, corruption, intrigue and even a coup, which saw it transition from a republic, to a unitary republic, to a military dictatorship, back to a multi-party republic then finally settling as a Dominant-Party (One party is supreme over others) republic before losing the war to North Vietnam.
North Vietnam, as you can guess or already know, was a communist government that received backing from the USSR, China and North Korea.
Perhaps the catalyst for the Vietnam war, (or as it is also known, as the Second Indochina War) was the beginning of the Viet Cong, a North Vietnam backed insurgency in the south of mostly rural populations who were disgruntled by the oft times repressive South Vietnamese government (Mind you, North Vietnam certainly wasn't any less repressive towards it's citizens), this only escalated when the South Vietnam government refused to do the reunification vote in 1956 for various factors, including the factor that they feared reunification would lead to a popular vote to turn the country into a communist government.
From it's onset, the South Vietnamese received tremendous support from various NATO and NATO-Allied countries, from money, to infrastructural aid, to weapons and military training, NATO and NATO-Allied countries, led by the USA, feared a domino effect in Asia, they feared that if North Vietnam took over South Vietnam, that it would lead to neighboring Asian countries to also fall to Communism and then those countries would also influence their neighbors towards Communism. Strictly speaking, this Domino effect did happen and also didn't happen, neighboring countries did experience communist insurgency, though these were not directly caused by North Vietnamese victory in the Vietnam war but began more or less concurrently from Chinese support and didn't lead to the great Commie-Dominated Asia that many paranoid Generals and Politicians predicted, unless you count Chinese aggression in the 21st century, but that's a little unrelated to the direct topic.
A lot of the escalation actually began under JFK's presidency, whose presidency largely inherited the policies of Eisenhower and Truman, but had significantly more problems and noticeable events; The failed Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, the construction of the Berlin Wall, the Cuban missile crises, the Vienna conference with USSR leader, negotiations and settlement between Western-backed government of Laos and the communist insurgents they had there, Kennedy became determined to draw a line in the sand and prevent further expansion of communism, though he was against deploying US troops in Vietnam, he asserted that Ngo Dinh Diem (President of South Vietnam at the time) and the South Vietnamese government, would need to defeat communism on their own, except... He made sure they would have an upper hand by increasing financial support for the South Vietnam government.
Eventually, the amount of money that was poured into Vietnam grew so much that pulling out of the situation became unthinkable, but it would be after JFK's assassination, and under Lyndon B Johnsons administration, that would see the first combat troops in Vietnam, largely stirred by the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident saw North Vietnamese torpedo boats intercept and attack a US Navy Destroyer off the coast of North Vietnam, though the destroyer was only slightly damaged (and the North Vietnamese torpedo boats completely destroyed) it was seen as an example of Communist aggression that was worthy of military response, added onto a second reported attack two days later (which was later revealed to be fantasy) led the US to launching retaliatory airstrikes on North Vietnam, and congress pass the Gulf of Tonkin resolution which granted the president power "to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression", this allowed LBJ to expand the war in Vietnam but made a pledge saying he would not be "committing American boys to fighting a war that I think ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land", never the less, the bombing campaign continued as Operation Rolling Thunder, Operation Flaming Dart and Operation Arc Light, meant to try and convince the North Vietnamese to cease their support of the Viet Cong insurgency in the south, between March 1965 and November 1968, Rolling Thunder deluged the north with a million tons of missiles, rockets and bombs, airstrikes increased in 1965 when an American army base in Pleiku was attacked by the Viet Cong, US ground troops first entered Vietnam in 1965, originally to defend Da Nang airfield, and from there, US ground troop numbers only steadily increased, with the truest commitment to an US war in Vietnam (which sidelined the ARVN) coming from General William Westmoreland who said "I am convinced that U.S. troops with their energy, mobility, and firepower can successfully take the fight to the NLF (Viet Cong)" and laid out a three phase plan to defeat the Viet Cong, and marked the USA's departure from a defensive war to an aggressive one:
Phase 1. Commitment of U.S. (and other free world) forces necessary to halt the losing trend by the end of 1965.
Phase 2. U.S. and allied forces mount major offensive actions to seize the initiative to destroy guerrilla and organized enemy forces. This phase would end when the enemy had been worn down, thrown on the defensive, and driven back from major populated areas.
Phase 3. If the enemy persisted, a period of twelve to eighteen months following Phase 2 would be required for the final destruction of enemy forces remaining in remote base areas
President Johnson, despite his earlier pledge, approved of the plan, and larger numbers of US ground troops were deployed to take the fight to the Viet Cong, the rest goes into the Vietnam War itself, rather than how it started and why Americans were there.
@Amber L No problem. I think it's important to understand the context of war, plus it's a subject I enjoy talking and reading about. Vietnam is often cited as an example of pointless war, perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, that's a debate that still goes on, but public perception of war has changed radically over the years.
In medieval times, War was seen as a good thing, that's not too say everyone was war mongering, but people were much more desensitized to it, did not treat loss of human life as heavily as we do now, and war actually had a several benefits to medieval societies.
When World War One was declared, people cheered, made jokes and laughed, soldiers early in the war called temporary cease fires to play soccer, but being one of the first examples of modern conflict, the horrors of trench warfare, the devastation to the countryside and it's cities, the massive and seemingly never-ending loss of life over literal meters of ground made people so horrified of war that WW1 was literally called "The War to end all Wars".
So it was, then when WW2 was declared, in stark contrast too when WW1 was declared, people didn't laugh and cheer, they cried.
At it's beginning, deploying ground troops to Vietnam had overwhelming public support from the American people, it was seen as a war for freedom that wouldn't last long because the enemy was poorly equipped insurgents, but being one of the first conflicts that was regularly recorded and aired on television (as well as being one of the first conflicts involving modern guerilla warfare) the mounting carnage, both to US troops and to the Vietnamese civilian population (Who suffered a great many atrocities by both sides) quickly changed public perception as people learned and coped with the realities of modern warfare, a reality which clashes with the perceptions they held previously.
You pretty much see this every few decades, as a younger and more ignorant population replaces the older one.
@Mordred C I still think it's baffling that the gulf of Tonkin incident was just made up by American government to start the war. All those innocent lives could have been saved...
@Steven Goodman The Gulf of Tonkin incident wasn't made up, that's a common myth, North Vietnamese torpedo boats did attack a US Navy Destroyer.
It was on August 4th, the "second attack" where US destroyers reported they were under attack when they picked up false radar and sonar signals, they maneuvered, fired at nothing, and reported two torpedo boats sunk.
People assume the first attack was fantasy since the second attack was literally just shooting at ghosts, but that isn't the case, North Vietnamese torpedo boats intercepted and attacked a US Navy Destroyer on August 2nd
@JewFinder what? I thought you were replying to Jayant Chaudhari saying that that you were a woman and couldn’t be an incel, I got the situation wrong 😅
@Gabriel Bido war has always been fought over money and power. It was never beautiful, or glorious, and conquest isn't noble. Wars of liberation maybe have some aspect of righteousness to them, but even then, they are fought only because of previous wars of occupation.
@Gabriel Bido My first degree is in medieval history. I also won't be engaging with you anymore, as it's clear some other ideology has rotted your brain.
It was kinda scary how long he went without medical attention too. He asked like what? At least three times? He deserves to be in jail but the cops were severely out of line
@Adiel Esdras where in the hell did i say he deserved respect? Bc he certainly does not. And i never said the wife didnt deserve respect but what good is arresting him if he dies from his wounds? Cant charge a dead man and do you know the uproar that would make?
@Junayd Ir CMM Beats isn't confused about the video. Confused as to why there is no patreon link (support the creator) or any ads (support the creator).
I'd guess it has to do with the output being so sporadic. Money making channels churn out content several times a week, and don't have "questionable" content. I really enjoy the insights on interrogation.
He did have a Patreon and I was a patron of his for ages, it is insane how much content he's made that just isn't on this channel. I'd wager he's made close to 100 videos, yet there are only 18 on the channel. He's since stopped putting extra videos on his Patreon, if it's even active still.
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E Powell2021-02-12 16:11:37 (edited 2021-02-12 16:15:52 )
@Alix Saunders oh wow! man, I bet that's some great content! Did they ever share about themselves, like why they made the videos, how they were qualified to dissect them? I always imagined that the creator was some sort of professor/trainer in criminal psychology/forensics/ police and the videos were made for that purpose.
Maybe it's because of exactly that. No adds, no patreon. Just pure informational content given to you without someone benefitting from it financially. Many of those youtube creators who MADE you believe that they are poor, or struggling, ect are actually just content grifters who view their channel as a money making machine. Stop acting like you own anyone anything. You don't.
Not in this video because the content is sensitive and it gives warning before watching. The other videos have ads or at least I get multiple ads a video.
There are no ads because the video contains copyrighted music. This channel normally runs loads of ads (and that’s fine) but the music blocks them for this specific video.
That cop being like, "I'm not afraid of you" when the guy was beaten up, in handcuffs, and surrounded by armed cops was kind of funny though. Not really the tuff flex he thought it was.
It's a shame this doesn't have the same amount of views as the rest of the channel's videos. Awareness does help.
The day won't come when the last line doesn't snap me to pieces.
Unfortunately this story isn't unique. I've gone to enough funerals and know enough guys busted up inside. We're not a statistic. We're more like litter.
Go to their Patreon page. There’s plenty others you can watch for just 1$/month. They aren't posting anymore though...still...awesome material all around
@OblivionMike YOU ARE A SAINT FOR INFORMING ME OF THIS!!! lol I absolutely love this channel and have seen all the videos but craved more, had no idea about Patreon, so thank you!!
Get the full interrogation videos and other stuff like court scenes, clsing statements and sentencing and so on. Maybe you´ll find other sources with additional information and put them together in a directory. That´s what i´m doing.
Don‘t go and shoot somebody and then try to be the perfect lier during the investigation. What your supposed to do I just don‘t know. Try: ‚Don‘t worry and be happy.‘
are watch the ones that are a bit longer you really liked, they have a amazing rewatch potential compared to typical videos. theres 3 unlisted videos you can google around for the links for that are good, and Patreon has a good bit of content too
it's my last video too and i didn't even follow youtube algorithme ordre or any kind of order i just watched the videos randomly maybe the thumbnail has something to do with it or maybe the video short length make it looks like it's not interesting to watch the youtube warnings in the start of the video my effect the order too because i was about to watch this video earlier but because of all the warnings i kept it for last till i created a youtube account just to watch it.
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
JCS I wanna shake your hand, in love w your channel I’m going into college for criminal justice and I can’t get enough of this mf channel, absolutely great shit 💪🏽
“I’m proud to have been able to walk point for my comrades, and pray that the exact same thing does not happen to any of them , I’m glad to be getting out of this place “ I feel bad for Andy he never left Vietnam
As of August 12TH, I’ve watched every JSC video thus far. "The Case of Andy B." is the last of the videos that I’ve watched & it was my favorite. This video had everything. The death sentence, the Vietnam war & a cameo from Markeith Loyd.
@Vance Matthews indeed it was and at the same time, moving! Due to the fact Andy expressed his regret and sorry for the loss of life that was a result of the government own doing by programming him to kill enemies in Vietnam yet didn't reprogram hin upon return - yet no one bothered at this anymore once shown the "jolly Andy" video.
Later, it seems like a double blade thrusts to him when he was delivered the lethal injection in which he saw that as sign of the Lord's mercy to free him from his daily PTSD labyrinth.
The storytelling in this video is a masterpiece. Setting up Andy's story and then switching to info about video technology and an unrelated case with seemingly no context, then finishing with footage of Andy's confrontation to bring it all home gave me chills.
This is the same way the MSM made the fake narrative against Trump, until a year later you find out its Hillary's lawyers and the KGB and Democratic operatives working with Comey and Brennan to stage everything and make fake wiretaps and warrants. It's all how it's presented.
Just if anyones wondering, I've watched the unedited clip JCS puts in at the end. Don't go watch it because it's unbelievably horrible. To sum up, he gets the officer, lets him plead for his life, then executes him while he's still begging
But the death of that cop who was a father and is now gone didn't? But the pregnant mother and cop held dear by the community killed like dogs didn't? By a man who BLM defended its innocence, that does not saddened you? No, the words of a maniac, who none the less does deserve compassion, who finally is getting out of prison one way or another, that is what saddened you completely, speechless...
@Ashbrowny aze that's not what the comment was about at all. The whole story is terribly sad. Everybody in this suffered. This video is about understanding why things like this happen, not condoning or forgiving them.
@Fan Page I am unable to deactivate my empathy despite this. Life, in all its thorns and roses, was to him something to be escaped. That's absolutely brutal.
@KOBKED-X Plenty of people, And sadly those type of people that "wants" to stay longer than necessary usually are the type that would send veterans to war again to get more resources to make them sandwiches or whatever these selfish pricks wanted.
We have lots of them here, They don't want to admit the concept of death whatsoever until their last minutes. When it's too late and all they left is a gazillion of problems that they never manage. Like How to deal with their belongings, their assets or etc., and just let other living family members fight over it. I assure you it's more f-ing depressing seeing family members going insane for how to split the assets, debts or etc. than acknowledging the death of that said person.
im not saddened by anything when it comes to this murderer. Save your sympathy for the victim. What if you had been the victim? what if you had been shot? Why don't we put ourselves in the victim's shoes a little more. NO sadness for the murderer. No sympathy. I can readily imagine him shooting me, and i feel no pity for him.
@Raphaella Victoria Yea, just look at a small picture and just put yourself in just one victims shoe. Ignore everything the veterans has suffered and potentially created more situation like this in the future. Which had happened a lot for veterans with PTSD issue.
If my family members has been shot and killed by people like this I'd wouldn't even be mad at him. I'd rather be mad at why the system let him be a wreck like this and just leave him be.
And I don't want to be rude or victim blame. But from the video the cops just use the authority they have to control the situation, which turned to s*it. The thing is, sadly most U.S. cops would do it. They can approach it very differently, be more humble, caring more of what the person might behave since the start of traffic stop and this may not even happen in the first place.
@Fan Page he killed someone after his brain was absolutely melted by experiences that his government put him through. they created a monster and let him loose on society. no one deserves to be turned into a monster.
@FAH Holliday If any of what you said about "the system" actually mattered in the slightest Andy wouldn't have gotten the death sentence. Also this killing never would have happened if the cop simply shot him in one of the 20 opportunities he had of doing so; This is why american cops are getting more insane and trigger happy by the second, cause the good ones just die and people who dare mourn them and become irate at the injustice are called "bootlickers".
@DuckieMcduck Their point about the system still stands and Andy getting the death sentence just adds to that. Also good job pretending to give a shit about trigger happy cops when you give them justifications lol
I live in dublin which is where this happened. That was some sad shit.... everyone was talking about it. And my dad worked with him on the Laurens county sheriff dept. Honestly something like that happening in a rural hicktown was just so surreal. It's one thing to hear about this kind of stuff someplace far away. It's another to see it happen in your own hometown.
@Fan Page idk dude, this cop was trying to exercise a power trip on someone who's extremely psychologically damaged, because he was speeding. i fully believe, too, that someone who acts so crazy while conducsing a traffic stop more than likely enjoys the powertrips more often and likely has shot innocent people while escalating situations. so, yeah, acab and while i don't support killing in general, i feel sorry for the vet, who was used, traumatised, given some worthless "medals" and then abandoned by the state, in spite of suffering from severe psychological damage.
@Fan Page I know. We can't assume who are guilty, the police or the vet.. but.. his words resonates to me. I saw so many horrible and wrong things in this world. So many injustices. So many crimes unreported (from minor things like bullying up into corruption, sex-related problems/prostitutions, child abuses, human exploitations, etc).
@MedaBot Learn text comprehension. Dinkheller was a good cop who didn't just fire over a speeding ticket, and that not only got him killed, it got people to pity Andy instead. The justification for cops not firing and dying in the process would, at the very least, be the offer of sympathies, but Americans can't even do that. So of course American police is just going to become brutal; no sane person would risk their lives defending the ungrateful, those who try to will simply die and be forgotten.
You know.... it's an unbelievable SHAME that a Man could leave home and do SO MUCH for his country, only to return and then have his country turn their backs on him. Granted, that kid did NOT deserve what he got but it's unfortunately, understandable how things led to transpire in that order.
With respect to the police officer... An American GI is an apex fighter. The movements, the tactics. It's brutal to see. How he ducks and wobbles during the shoot out and then charges when the officer retreats. Then starts aiming better when he has him pinned down, walks closer... There is no way a police training prepares you for that. Andy B. was battle hardended and he followed the textbook to the letter. The result is science. Theres no way that any of us wouldve walked away from that. It's tragic from both ends. Both a good soldier and a good cop.
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Sebastian Leon2021-01-30 05:25:13 (edited 2021-05-31 16:36:35 )
Who started with “The Wrath of Jodi” and then binge watched the entire Channel lol —
started with "the legend of jeff" here but i am very happy you did watched the entire channel even though its not mine, the work that is put into these videos is absolutely exemplar, cant say its the best youtube channel because i dont know them all but i can safely say its up there with the best... cheers
I started with the videos that had like 3 or 4 different interrogations, sadly they were taken down but they were amazing, this channel grow very fast and in very happy for that
I got here awhile ago. Don’t know when, but I make absolutely certain to watch every single episode the second it comes out. This guys content is too fucking good. Well research, well articulated material, and well presented.
Until I got to casey Anthony...got so frustrated I skipped most that one. Watched the rest though. Still cant believe casey Anthony got off. She went on to marry? Or date n live with her defense attorney who got her off too.....2 peas in a pod.
Omg me rn! Started with the Wrath of Jodi, have this one and one more to go! My life feels so dark rn, i need to get out of my room... ok, one more episode🚶♀️
I started with Stephen McDaniel..but yeaaaaa binged em all right after..his commentary is superb his grammar so perfectly placed as if we were thinking exactly the same thing as the video progresses...just a remarkable and well educated individual
I started with guilty until proven innocent, which in my opinion is the best video on the channel, because it has a much higher analsys and breakdown than any other in the channel, even being the shortest video.
That cop yelled so much and so long. He could have taken that guy down without killing him multiple times. His refusal to shoot earlier cost him his life.
My highschool AP chemistry teacher was a Vietnam veteran. He was talking about the war one day and a student asked him if he ever killed anyone, he lost it and kicked the student out of the class. I felt real bad on how that question got to him.
Later that year one of our classmates committed suicide. He shared the story of how he overcame the suicide of his brother, who was also a Vietnan Veteran and suffered from severe PTSD. One of the best humans I have ever met
@Sufuurin It's just morbid curiosity. May be distasteful but the question is on the mind of 90% of civilians when they are having a conversation with someone who has deployed. It is basically human nature to be interested and enquire about destruction. Jim talked about that in one of his videos.
I went to a Dodds school, and a kid asked our shop teacher if he could build the guy a new leg. The teacher started crying quietly and said we were dismissed. Some kids were laughing and some weren't but I'll never forget how quiet he was the rest of the year. It was like that one comment destroyed years of work he had done healing however he lost his leg
My dad was in the military and as a really young child I asked if he had killed anyone and in an instant he said “Don’t you EVER ask someone that’s question.” I don’t know what my dad has been through tbh and he doesn’t seam like his time in the army has affected him at all, but I do understand how serious of a question that is..
Dave Smith2020-10-08 12:12:04 (edited 2020-10-08 12:12:38 )
@Jan Michael Vincent You are very right. There are many combat vets who are perfectly fine with talking about it. And many who are proud about it because they trained hard to do that job. Most vets for example never have PTSD no matter what they go through. Part of that is good training. Many stories about vets getting flashbacks and violently acting out tend to be false because real PTSD isn't like that. It is closer to either things like survivors guilt (thinking that some action could have made a bad situation better) or just a trained reaction that causes the wrong response in a safe setting (for example being wary of a person running up to you, even though they might just be on a jog). One big example I can think of right now is some vets having issues with their wives because in the military they are used to straightforwardness, but in a married relationship things are less direct and you need more sensitivity than is necessary. Keep in mind, many guys getting out of the military joined when they were a teen, so when they first get out they really don't know how to be an adult other than an adult in the military. It is why so many vets can get scammed or taken advantage of.
Problem is the media and misguided civilians think PTSD is some kind of mind controlling situation. Other issues is anti-war people who can't spit on vets anymore due to the cultural stigma after 9/11, now choose to exaggerate PTSD as a way to try and bring vets down, saying things like "poor you, you fought for nothing", even though everyone who has actually seen regular combat knows that the fighting overseas isn't pointless because everyone saw the real consequences of what happens when you don't address threats, and these consequences are rarely aired to the public without some kind of spin.
Watching the footage at the end reminded me of when I first heard about this case through a song, “I just killed a cop and now I’m horny” by JPEGMAFIA. The intro uses the audio of the dash cam and I remember just being so shocked and shaken knowing it actually happened in real life.
This scares me about the potential consequences of going to war. I don't want to be mentally altered to the point I completely lose myself.
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Morgan R2021-11-04 15:13:38 (edited 2021-11-04 15:14:12 )
Props to that eyewitness. Her recall is fucking phenomenal. Good for her for not falling into the old adage of "snitches get stitches". Thank you, ma'am. Testimony like hers is a dime a dozen.
To the person who makes these videos: What you do is of very high quality. These videos are incredibly thought provoking, heart wrenching and informative on many levels. Thank you for sharing your form of art. Many thanks.
I have complex ptsd after being attacked. After it first happened I developed psychosis. I didn’t know what that was and I literally lost my mind. Within months I was hearing voices, trying to kill myself and had lost touch with all reality. Following a year of this I was admitted to hospital and medicated. The psychosis slowly faded but is still there. Without medication, the psychosis returns. Reading this about the soldier breaks my heart. To stop medication is a symptom of many mental illnesses. He didn’t have a chance, neither did his victim. Ptsd is real, it’s tragic, it’s debilitating, it takes over your mind and you cannot escape what your mind can’t forget. I love your work. Thanks
Having a fiancee who is a psychiatrist, her stress levels on ex-military PTSD cases she works on daily makes her cry every night for these unfortunate soldiers that protected and served our country. I surely wouldn't be able to show her this because the one thing she needs is peace and rest to wake up everyday trying to help heal these people. :(
@Tri Do They make the soldiers believe they're doing the right thing for their country. It's indoctrination. They think they're protecting your ungrateful ass until they get over there and realize it's not what they were led to believe it was. It's not really their fault, blame the politicians that send them over there.
@VitaminDevil- G they killed because of politics. It had nothing to do with the protection of American citizens, and they understood that too, which made them even more messed up. Don't support the bullshit story that made them go there in the first place and then act sorry for them.
@M.C. M. do you really believe they were doing it for the Vietnamese people? They don't give a fck about the people. Whether it's Vietnam, Iraq Afghanistan or anywhere else they decide to invade
Tri Do lets not forget that a lot of those soldiers were drafted against their will, there was nothing they could do to avoid being drafted. then they were brainwashed into thinking they were fighting for a good cause
@M.C. M. The Vietnam war was the result of French imperialism, not communism. Vietnam had been under French imperialism as "French Indochina" for about sixty years. North Vietnam wanted to unite the entire country as a whole, that was their goal first and foremost. Spreading communism was really only a result of reunification. Let's not forget that there were also many Vietnamese in the south that agreed with the idea of reunification - these were the Viet Cong. North Vietnam wasn't a power-hungry authoritarian state, it was the Vietnamese trying to re-unite the indigenous population into one country free from foreign interference.
This county uses its young men and then throws them away like trash. It is no wonder at all that so many of them are dysfunctional. But I suppose this footage does highlight the fact that our military is capable of creating killing machines with no skills other than bringing death upon others, and they're damn good at it. 23:05 just look at his movements. Every movement is calculated and he's constantly aware of where his weapon is pointing. There is no fear in that man's mind, not an ounce of hesitation. And we aren't doing jack sh*t about it. The government does not care. They mold these men into something that is unacceptable in civilized society, and then throw them back into it like nothing happened.
I read this comment before watching and didnt think it would be because ive read about this case before but, yep... totally agree. Almost cried there at the end
N C2020-06-07 22:13:03 (edited 2020-06-07 22:25:14 )
Chill Yourself They executed a war hero who executed a police officer. He was duly punished. I might feel differently if his last words show any remorse, but they were incredibly distant and cold.
The last clip with the fire fight at the truck was cut very thoughtful. In the actual clip you can hear the desperate screams of the policeman. It stuck with me for a while.
8:11 that is absurd! He obviously was heroic in combat, which resulted in his PTSD. Due to his PTSD he shot the man (not excusable, but he should not get the death sentence!)
Its not underrated its just VERY age restriced, its not on recommended page, and even if u find the video, youtube asks you twice If u wanna watch plus an ID or credit card
@Daniel T corporate america doesn't want you seeing the disgusting atrocities committed undeniably and entirely of its own culpability. it puts the masses' blind patriotism in jeopardy.
Heyyy it's the guy who caught Dream cheating but got harassed by his stans for months because they couldn't accept the idea that the man they worship could do wrong, only for Dream to admit he was a dirty cheater all along! Good to see you holding up!
I had skipped this one on accident forgot to go back to it not friending for a new video and rewatching old ones I stumbled upon this one and it’s like a gift haha.
The deeper you dive into the nature of warfare, the specific lives affected and how, it should be clear to any rational person that the politicians initiating such catastrophes have no regard for human life, and the supposed "humanitarian" justifications for building up a war state are completely empty.
Controversial opinion - this is as true for Vietnam as it was for both WWI and WWII and all the terror wars.
If British and American politicians had heeded the warnings of their pacifist and antiwar citizenry before WWI, there would have been no Hitler and the Nazis. If they had listened to them again pre WWII and let German Jews immigrate (escape) into the US, Britain and their respective colonies they would have saved countless lives. If the US had strongarmed the British into ceasing the catastrophic blockade on Germany and the occupied countries, like those same pacifists and antiwar advocates were demanding, they would have prevented the mass starvation of so many of the Third Reich's victims. Hell if they'd just allowed American and British private charities to bring in food and elliviate the starvation of all the regular folk that had nothing to do with the actions of their evil governments - it would have made a huge difference.
Same goes for Britain starting the horrific trend in that war of conducting air raids on civilian populations, which Churchill both expected and hoped would be reciprocated onto British cities and towns (he wanted to make the citizenry "feel" the war so they might be more supportive, as well as induce the US to enter the war as Americans see British civilians getting killed by bombs and become more bloodthirsty towards Germans - it worked).
Basically the British war planners and politicians understood full well that Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and then proceeded to do everything they could to create the conditions for him to mass exterminate people (not allow refugees into their own countries when Nazis were trying to expel them, severe economic sanctions that necessarily cause starvation among the underclass and put those Jewish hostages in a far worse situation, bomb German and French towns and cities so the animosity and desperation in occupied Europe becomes even more hateful and frenzied, the list goes on and the pacifists abd antiwar advocates of the era were calling all of it out, loud and clear, but they seem to be left out of most history books).
Basically the argument that it was a just war and the allies were trying to save lives is hogwash - they categorically made things worse in every meaningful way for European Jews, and openly dismissed the opportunities they had to save them without escalating such an apocalyptic war. As we see with governments all the time, they were more than willing to "sacrifice" the lives they claimed to be attempting to save to further the geopolitical agenda.
War is all bad, and governments contrive to weave propaganda narratives that will present them as just or necessary, when they in fact almost never are. It just piles death, suffering and hate onto death, suffering and hate. The generational consequences are immeasurable, and we would do well to remember that the same institutions that played such big roles in the mass slaughters of the various 20th century big wars are the institutions that continue to rule over us today. The system of world governance we are familiar with was baptized in an ocean of innocent blood, and I really think folks need to be more aware of that. "Democracy" and other such empty political buzzwords aren't a sufficient justifications for the horrors that have been placed at the foot of that false idol.
Did the British really start bombing civilians first? The general impression I got from the education system in Scotland relatively recently was that the Nazis were the main culprits, they did mention that we also bombed civilians but my impression was that it wasn't as frequently
If any veterans feel symptoms, please get help. My father served in Vietnam from 67-70. He killed himself in 2009. He never got over the war and his PTSD. He might have not died in Vietnam, but he suffered a grave mental wound.
My uncle served in Vietnam. He signed up when he was 17 I do believe my great grandmother didnt want him to go but she signed off....when I was a kid in the eighties he used to sit away from everybody and just repeat "That sho is cold". As kids we didnt know wtf he was talking about...now I totally understand what he was getting at.
I am so sorry for your painful loss, and for the terrible undeserved pain that your father carried long after he came home. War is the worst thing to come from the human species. Hope you are doing well.
Sorry for your loss. My husband Nam 67 - 68. Also committed suicide in 1996. I was 16 when we were married & our children are grown with great lives. My brother, Nam 67-68 helicopter gunner killed himself 2002. 🙏✝️😭🇺🇸
A family friend served in Nam as a navy seal and had severe ptsd from it. He became wealthy in real estate and owned several homes and backcountry properties in idaho along with having several airplanes. He just killed himself a month ago in his airplane hangar where his wife found him later that morning... He left her and 3 grown daughters behind. He was in his mid 70's. :-(
No offense and deepest condolences to your dad. But not everyone's who's been in combat has severe PTSD like Andrew Brennan.....I did 3 tours and I only have Survivors guilt and Knee issues besides that I'm well functioned in society. To me it's really arragont to make a blanket statement like that.
To be fair, in the context of Vietnam, americans are the last people to feel sorry about. Feel sorry for the literal millions of Vietnamese that the americans murdered for no reasons besides imperial ambitions. But it was a draft. Can´t expect everyone to risk themselves avoiding the draft. Much worse is the modern US military. Modern murderers have no draft excuse. They willingly go overseas to murder people.
Where can I find the original uncut version? I’ve read somewhere that parts were cut for YouTube. This is already one of the best pieces of media I’ve ever watched, I’d like to support the full thing. I don’t think I’ve seen a more impactful crime documentary with such an important message, with the content not being used in an exploitative manner at all.
I know a woman whose husband handled Agent Orange in the military, on a regular basis. Not only did he die from cancer at an early age, both his children developed cancer young and died. She was left alone
what a powerful intro that immediately set the tone. i see what you mean with the ironic music montages! WOW. Vietnam was truly horrific and showed the horror and effects of war with all the recorded footage. still amazed at the movie length and amazing quality of these videos and all for free at that!
My father spent 3 years in the war, the person who came back wearing his shoes, moustache and N.K.Osijek t-shirt wasn't the same person, just a coat hanger for his stuff...
@bubba There are accounts of things like PTSD from all the way back to antiquity. Society just didn't understand mental illness as well back then. I'm sure the Roman citizens who had to face down Hannibal's elephants were pretty effed up from that. Or the Austrians who survived the siege of Vienna. There's plenty of traumatic things in war, no matter the time in history.
@Robin Does it matter what war? Most people going to war are absolutely unprepared for what waits them. And most people get some level of PTSD, some even after a short time. Most civilians exposed to war also get PTSD but no one cares about them. Only people not getting PTSD are the sociopaths. Btw, the war Sven S refers to is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence
@Robin maybe the reference to the NK Osijek shirt would give you a bit of detail to infer what war OP is talking about. Then again, you seem too emotional and dense to sit down and think about something for more than a few solitary seconds.
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@Robin listen, I hate imperialist wars as much as the next decent person (and essentially all wars that the US and Western Europe have been involved in have been imperialist), but that's a pretty fucking brutal response. Many soldiers on the imperialist side are also victims, pawns at the whims of capital — we should extend empathy to them as well as the civilians of the countries they invade and decimate. On top of that, your cold-heartedness makes our side look bad, comrade.
BTW, it sounds like this person's dad was involved in the Bosnian War. Hardly something like Iraq or Vietnam.
@bubba The difference is that in the era of swords and arrows, you have armor, shields, ranks of men around you. Your enemy fires arrows at you and you can block them with your shield; your enemy attacks you with a sword and you can fight back. You're going to suffer and see friends die, certainly, but you can defend yourself, you have the opportunity to win fights on your own skill.
In modern warfare, if an enemy is a kilometer away and shoots you in the head with a sniper rifle, you're dead, period. You cannot defend yourself, cannot fight back, cannot win, you're just dead. If a civilian blows himself up next to you while you're traveling through his village, you're dead, period. If a mortar shell falls on you, you're dead, period.
Seeing this sorts of unpredictable, uncontrollable, indefensible means of death and mutilation happen to your comrades all around you all the time, and knowing that the same may happen to you at literally any moment with no warning or anticipation, is a kind of stress medieval and earlier soldiers never had to live with.
There is a TREMENDOUS difference between walking into a battle with a shield wall, knowing you're about to fight and defend yourself, versus sitting around your base camp and hearing a mortar come whistling in, crouching down and praying it misses you.
@bubba I used to have the exact same questions about why modern day PTSD seems so much more extreme than it was in the ancient eras, even though war was just as commonplace, if not moreso, back then. It makes sense when explained in the context of how much the soldier himself is able to control, and how unimaginably stressful it becomes to participate in a war where your survival is entirely out of your hands at all times.
Another thing I left out because it wasn't quite as relevant, though it does explain even further - in the olden days, from childhood you were taught that your family and country were your highest priorities, and that killing your enemies was a great good, something heroic and triumphant to be celebrated. When you killed a man with your sword you felt like a champion, like you'd helped save your home and loved ones.
In modern days, we're all raised from childhood taught that killing another human being, committing murder, is the worst crime you can commit, is worthy of the death penalty or life in prison, is something horrific and awful. Then, after at least 18 years of this understanding, a gun is put in your hands and you're told "Go murder that man, it's okay because we said so." It can't be difficult to see how taking that sort of action, which contradicts so starkly with everything you were raised to believe, would only add even more stress to an already exhausted soldier.
I'm glad I was able to share some of my understanding with you, and also glad that you were willing to listen. I totally get your initial confusion because I had the same myself at first.
@Dave matthews War in the Balkans. Osijek is in Croatia. I know this cuz I was living there as a child, 4 years old when the war started in 1991, my father, even tho he was croatian "chose" (you had to go in to war if you was a male and old enough) the serbian side since my mom is serbian. My dad was in the war for the serbs and his twin brother for the croats, shooting at eachother.. So yeah, both me and my mom suffer from PTSD, my dad died unfortunatly, but I think he would have sufferd from heavy PTSD and what not after that war..
I'm sorry... That's the sad reality of war... The person you are when going in dies either way... The question is if the body dies with it.. And what's really sad most of wars are just a way for the rich to get richer...
Dogs are just way too good for Someone with incredibly severe PTSD can improve through the companion of a dog. Imagine along with therapy and medication he might have avoided this situation
As a US Army Iraq and Afghanistan Combat Vet with relatively severe PTSD, please don't let this negatively impact the way you think about veterans with PTSD. I know a lot of Vietnam vets and younger vets who are some of the nicest people I've met. We're not all wacko like the movies and the media make it seem. We're generally very nice people because seeing the horrors of war humbles you.
I will say that when Andy said "I'm glad to be getting out of this place", as tragic as it is, I can relate. War changes a man.
Hey man, I'm just some dude on the internet, and I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but I just want to say that even though it doesn't always come across (because civilians don't understand what they haven't been through) we're still rooting for you. We might be confused, or scared, or wary because we don't know what to do, but we want to do whatever we can. Sometimes it's just hard to know what we can and should do, but don't hesitate to reach out, because we still WANT to do whatever we can. God bless in these troubling times.
My heart goes out to you and all other veterans who have served, then come home changed. It hurts to think of the trauma you all endure. Compassion, not pity. :)
I used to work in assembly line work, at a warehouse for assembling music instrument cases. One of my coworkers was a former Army Ranger. Very severe PTSD, and a laundry list of other medical conditions from the strain and injuries he had to endure. Very chill dude though. His insistence on making us all listen to ACDC all the time was a little grating, but he was like an uncle to me. Taught me the proper form for push-ups, was genuinely concerned for me when he saw me fighting back tears that my first paycheck would be enough to help me weather the next month(likely would have thrown whatever amount of money I needed at me, if I but asked), and gave me valuable insight into what it's like to confront the horrors you guys face. It's beyond even an imagination as vivid as my own.
I know that some days, it's just plain not gonna be okay, regardless of what us normies wish for you. But I appreciate what you soldiers gave up for us, in the interest of preserving our ways of life. You matter to me, and I salute you.
I've been around the block to those places too, I've never visited the VA since I've never developed Symptoms of PTSD, only knee issues and Hearing lose that's it.
Those bombs pretty much condense the moisture in the air immediately, that shockwave would literally make short work of your lungs if you were in the area. I wonder how often friendly fire occurred from thinking you were a safe distance out
The fact is that learned mental illnesses have a basis that often can translate into criminal dendancies, or have agravating factors on the outcome on distressing events in the person's life. A mental illness that someone is born with doesn't have any of these factors so should be treated differently, when someone comes back a war hero with severe PTSD some leway should be given to acknowledge this fact. My friends that have come back from Ireland, Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghan with PTSD suffer daily and their lives have been affected entirely. That a 100% disabled veteran was given a death sentance when a nutter who kills 2 women and his child isn't given the death penalty we must ask where the "justice" in our departments of justice across the world actually lies.....
I think what should be taken from this is that the death penalty in general is extremely unfair and shouldn't be used on anyone. As fucked as it seems, I would rather they sit in prison and pay their dues to society rather than just get the easy way out.
What makes this channel so much better than any other channel of the same genre is that it doesn't use any unnecessary background music, I appreciate that.
Imagine forcefully getting sent to war by your government, coming back a hero, develop severe ptsd and suffer for years until you finally snap. Then because you snapped the same government decides to put you down. What a life, absolutely zero control what happens to you.
That last part folks is why cops fire on people who appear to be reaching for or holding a weapon. It's sad because it shows how sympathetic the cop was to the mans situation showing just how much of a great human he is, but as soon as he knew he had a weapon and was reaching for it he needed to just take the shot. It's a really shitty situation bc obviously the man never asked for such a severe illness to the point where he can hardly control himself, but it ultimately is what it is and it's kill or be killed. It would've been hard on the cop I'm sure but not a single person would've blamed him especially since the man was not a person of color, and multiple things can be true at once; it can be sad the man had been put in that situation and died, and it would also be sad the cop had to defend his life and kill someone who is as good as brainwashed by an illness. Unfortunately that's not how the situation ended up and both lives were consequentially lost.
Many times I find myself wishing a god was real, because neither of them deserved what happened and it would be assuring to know they can at least find peace after life. However, the world can be cruel and things don't always have happy endings. Never waste the tragedy of others by not using them to find more gratitude for your own life and the people you love who are still around. The hands of time move swift and passes impartial judgement on those within it. Out of all the people who have ever existed the odds of you living and breathing right now are astronomically less than 1 in a billion billion billion billions when observing relatively to the grand scheme of things. Treat you and your loved ones like the millions of consecutive won lotteries that they are.
From a psychological standpoint I wonder if PTSD is in part a defense mechanism where the mind resorts to its primitive state (the time where tens of thousands of years ago prehistoric humans were basically always on the move, always alert and sleeping with one eye open no different from the way an animal in the wild would.) An enduring, traumatic event such as an active battle might trigger this small, hidden section of our brain, the remnants of the past, an instinctual and primal reaction called survival. The parts of our brain linked to the flight or fight response. But this section of the brain once switched on or developed won’t turn off. No expert but definitely going to look into this given I have close friends with PTSD and it’s generally difficult for the public/society to relate/understand/empathize because we didn’t endure such a horrific event that would cause this terrible condition. How noble can war be if it continuously causes hell?
I love the intro, it’s so cinematic, the contrast between the love song and the bombing is just so… I can’t firm the words to describe it idk why I felt the need to type this out but I still like the intro so much
Except it wasn't ignored.... he got help, and seemed to be doing a lot better, but then regressed. There's no way to predict, understand, or truly prevent that. It's a tragedy, but don't act like anyone could've seen it coming.
You should watch the whole footage from the scene. The author had cut out the ending, when the officer's colleagues arrive. There is nothing more bone-chilling than the screams of despair from his partner, what's even more horrific, is that all of them are out of the camera angle. You can only imagine these men and women crying and calling out his name in vain, probably holding him, someone trying to drag them away from the body... Link: https://youtu.be/VpO6OWYl_iI
The world really isn't just sad, most people's lives are filled with largely positive interactions and even those who are truly unlucky and are stricken by unthinkable levels of grief and tragedy most often find comfort in other people or for Andy that dog.
History isn't just the world wars or vietnam, those are the darkest times in history and yet people like you focus on them as the true "ignored" nature of the human experience when they are given undue levels of attention and make up so little of the human experience.
@Anonymous00616 human nature is suffering. Life is suffering. You must be completely naive to believe the majority are having positive experiences 🤦🏾♂️
@Anonymous00616 I do not resent humanity or listen to media. It’s common sense. The majority suffer while the minority take from them. Get out of your bubble
@Micah J If people really "commonly" understood that any social stratification results in an existence of suffering for the majority civilization would have never got past square one. The upper class of any society do live with less suffering but that hardly means those below them live in abject misery. When the common person does reach that level of suffering they rise up and take out their frustration on those they view as privileged. Historically it's not necessarily because their leaders did anything particularly unjust, it's usually because of things like floods or droughts in the past or policy/market failures in the present.
This was described as the lowest ranking vid on JCS... in a video about why JCS is so successful.... but to me...this is the hardest hitting of all. It is....the topic itself that is huge. Hard to nail it down...
I went to search for the full video of the shoot out and now I regretted my decision. The sound is haunting as fuck. out of all the JCS, this one is one of the creepier ones due to the video.
@Alex Homovc, if being trapped on a warzone as a civilian can totally wreck a persons mind...
imagine a soldier who had to prepare himself for death everyday as he watch friends from left and right... not to mention the horrible treatment vietnam vets got when they got home
@Alex Homovc um us vets with ptsd understand what’s running through his mind, you can’t even begin to imagine the atrocities I as well as many of my comrades have seen, and then have to defend ourselves.
He said he was "glad to be getting out of this place", that a far different wording than "leaving this place".
"Getting out of this place" is 1:1 army or other military chatter, it's what soldiers say when they are extracting, or die due to their injuries on the field. It's not something someone christian or civilian would say, a person who believes in god, or other person.
It's what someone says who has lost all hope, has seen death, and has faced death, and either dies or gets rescued in another way, from the horror of war.
This man never, ever, has forgotten war, and was, even in life, still in war.
You got to remember, you americans have many thousands of veterans from the gulf war, and recently iraq, who are equally traumatised. About time to give them some love and attention, in a positive way.
You didn't show the end of the video, where you hear him go in for the kill and the officer plead for his life. It very understandably influenced the jury.
Your videos have really taught me how imperative it is that authorities retain a cool head and operate with the law in mind. The difference between a successful interrogation and a botched one is the investigators/interrogators not letting their anger get to them.
The end is heartbreaking, though it does surprise me the officer went so long without firing.
Yep but cops are humans just like any other profession, and no human is always capable of controlling their emotions. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have to sit in a room with someone who murdered a pregnant woman and a cop that was your friend. Like with this story it’s just really hard for me to feel bad for what happened to that guy, seeing what he did and who he killed. I have almost zero compassion for whatever happens to him.
Since that happened thats shown in most every officer's training of what happens when you dont pull the trigger. Dont watch the full video. He gets right over the officer when he pumps the last few shots and you can tell by the cops screams he knows its happening. Then the guy drives away and the officer screams more as he realizes he's dieing. Its little wonder why cops don't do that anymore.
@Legato Modi "Since that happened thats shown in most every officer's training of what happens when you dont pull the trigger. " Well, that certainly would explain a few problems we've been having, but not all of them. I kept thinking the whole time that if Andrew just happened to have brown skin, the officer's restraint would have ended with the first peek at the rifle. Maybe that's overly cynical, but maybe it's what I've learned from the evidence of how police behave in this country.
Still a tragic situation for all involved. Much like those returning from active duty in war zones, I don't know how to safely prepare and keep decent human beings in the law enforcement role. The danger is so great, and the PTSD is real. Perhaps if they weren't in a country where it's safest to assume that every idiot they encounter is packing an automatic weapon, because yes they can, our officers wouldn't be so trigger-happy themselves.
@cerulean daydream its important to remember the media is having an affect on them just like the public. Just like we see everyday that "theyre against us" they see "we won't tolerate it no more!". The rift between law enforcement and the public becomes greater everyday reinforcing in a cop's mind "its us versus them". You gotta admit, you're somewhat feeling a "us versus them" kinda thing too. We all feel it. All of us really need to drop it. Its still kinda hard. Especially since they got a gun and we're not supposed to and if we legally have one from a legal permit, them knowing that immediately causes them to seize it carefully (or outright wig out and shoot you immediately) until youre free to go even though the 2nd ammendments point is to be mutually armed. If they got their hand on their gun you should be able to do the same in case they mean to compromise your rights in a different way. But you don't have rights. Every "God given self evident" right that "shall not be infringed" has a limit and you can't exercise any of the first 10 ammendments in court unless they let you cause the 11th ammendment says you can not make a case in court against the government unless they want to. Its ridiculous. We have no rights. We have privileges. We can say or express ourselves how ever we want (unless its too offensive or pisses off the wrong one). We can bare arms, but only little ones and only in your home unless the state gives you a permit, which doesn't matter if the government wants to mess with you and you better hand that over quick if you wanna survive. We do not have to tolerate unnecessary search and seizure unless a cop makes something up or gets a second opinion from a fucking dog thats trained to get a treat whenever he indicates smells on something. Or if a corporation wants your land and buys you out through the city with imminent domain. You get a fair and speedy trial, unless the feds or military gets you for something they designate as terrorism. Then you may get a trial possibly one day. The constitution is bullshit. This "free country" is a lie. Better than other places though. For now.
@Mystic Legion I think he simply didn't wanna shoot anybody like most people. He was a rookie. Most cops start their careers expecting to do good. The reality is that giving people the benefit of the doubt usually ends up fucking you over, and that's the case in life whether you're a cop or a normal person.
It hurts to think of all the horrific thing that Vietnam vets went through and the loss they experienced just to come home to a thankless country that couldn’t give a shit about them
@Russian It's easy to say that he was bad at his job, and by the standard of being able to remove a threat to his own life he certainly failed. However to me, it's clear that he died because he was not ready to take someone else's life, which might make him "bad" at being a police officer that day, but it's a failing that speaks to his moral character. I think it's cold and inhumane if your response to his horrible last moments was "man, he was bad at his job".
@Zethalai i agree.. man that officer didnt want to kill anyone.. :S someone aiming at you with their gun and you still try to talk to them instead... :S sad how good people die
@Zethalai no dude, he was bad at his job like most officers. Officers dont get the training they need to perform at the standard of other professional police from other countries, such as europe. Lack of quality training turns cops into bad ones
@Zethalai He was bad at his job. The moment he saw the man was having an emotional episode, he should have changed tactic. Instead, he screamed, was defensive, made demands, continued screaming... and eventually the stress of the situation he had caused that veteran overtook him, and the war came back to him.
Situations like these do not require panick, and that's what the officer did in his last moments: he panicked. Situations like these require empathy, the exact thing the officer was never trained to express to the people he faces in the line of duty. Instead, they are taught fear. Not one moment in that whole interaction did that cop speak without fear in his voice.
He wouldn't be bad at his job if he'd been trained to be empathetic. He wouldn't be dead if he had been trained to be empathetic. He was bad at his job, because he wasn't trained to do his job. The system failed both these men, and it led to this tragic outcome. There are no heroes in the story of Andy Brannon. Only victims.
@Russian I actually disagree that officer was very good at his job, The job of the police is to protect the public not to instantly view the public as a threat, The officer recognized that the man was attempting to commit suicide by cop he tried to give him chances to get out of that, unfortunately the murderer changed his mind on suicide and began to open fire, and the firearms training that the murderer had was much better than police training. No the cop was trained properly, unfortunately police nowadays base a lot of their training off of the dash cam footage of this cop being murdered which is used as part of current training that is called kilology which ultimately trains police to view every public interaction as hazardous and potentially deadly, which means even if they pull you over for a tail light that's out they instantly view you as a threat as they approach your vehicle. Police do not protect and serve anymore, they only exist to uphold the law and the law is written by rich men and women to keep everybody else in their places. Protect and serve does not exist. Some verbal de-escalation training could have helped however.
@Chromeberd A 2 time Vietnam War veteran who trained with Firearms in active combat (since 19 years old), as the literal frontline man VS a cop pulling him over for a speeding ticket.
Who tf do these people think is gonna win that fight?
Not even poorly trained I'd argue, just young. Inexperienced. Even after receiving training and a handful of years on the job as a cop, I doubt he ever previously encountered anything so dangerous as what he encountered that day. He was only 22, of course.
Such a strange irony, dying for a lack of experience, and being killed by a man who had experienced too much.
@B.K. Laughton A good soldier accomplishes his objectives with a minimal loss of life. A bad soldier gets his friends, comrades, and self killed. You tell me which of those seems like a better person.
@CommonlyKnownAsAngi You left out the bit where the objective involves killing other people. A good soldier is good at following orders and killing without hesitation or doubt. Good people are bad at that. Bullies, lackeys, and sociopaths make great soldiers, on the other hand.
@B.K. Laughton Why don't you just admit that you have a prejudice against police and the military instead of pretending you know anything about how those professions actually work? Don't worry man I'm sure at least one person who has read your comments has bought into your psuedo-moralistic position that people in these professions are bad, and you calling them out therefore makes you a good person.
how the fuck could a cop be better trained then a 2 time in real combat veteran with two awards? the man is a killing machine, look at his aiming and stance.
@taco stains Dude, Europe is also trash. Lmao. The standard of law enforcement is just about the same internationally. Those (2 years) in the UK is made up of probation time after, which is still them out on the streets not in the academy. Just like officers in the United States varying from a full year to half a year.
@MrfunnyNacho wrong, the standards are not the same. Law enforcement in europe take more time with training and actually train for de escalation. Ours dont. Dont try to lie here.
@taco stains There is no lying.... in fact in regards to tactical training most law enforcement standards even in Europe are incredibly low. They don't require specialization in Grappling, they train twice a year in firearms, and just about the same for scenario classes that train officers. Don't read a Twitter thread or a common quote from media outlets and then never actually look at what's being reviewed. Law enforcement receive hundreds of thousands of calls daily just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean they're not using de-escalation. I'll be waiting for you to bring up Knife attacks in the UK (Specifically the video where officers used shields) so I can break down the piss poor tactics and the reality....if you asked any UK cop if they'd of called an armed officer to the scene they would say yes....and he'd get shot.
@taco stains You've let popular news channels and various critics parade around the "European 2 year standard" and never actually looked into what that meant....the academy is literally just about the same length as US police officers, their probation time is the difference, which US police officers also undergo an additional 6 mo-1year+ in probation where they're out on the street . Which is what also makes the UK police (2 years)
@MrfunnyNacho yawn. Someone doesnt know that they have specialized units for firearms. Check up on Sweden officers and the years of school they have to complete before becoming an officer. This is more training than what the officers in the US gets. They only go through academy and dont really train much with firearms. They only shoot that sidearm a few times a year. At least with the regular officer over there, they still get more training. There is more than just having firearm training. They are trained to de-escalate and when the situation calls for something more extreme, specialized units come in. Keep trying.
@MrfunnyNacho that's why Sweden officers were able to de-escalate a fight between two men in an NYC sub train. Something that is hard for officers to do over here. They did it without weapons. You're looking like a fool here. They also train on making sure the suspect are okay. They ask questions and go further than what officers in the US go. So no, the standards in Europe arent low compared to the US.
@MrfunnyNacho go ahead, list off every news channel you think I watch and I'm willing to bet $100 I dont watch any of them. You ready to lose money today?
@taco stains And yet, had the NYPD used that exact same hold, you would of heard the public screaming he can't breathe, why are there two officers on him. The suspect was literally screaming he can't breathe. There's hundreds of videos of NYPD doing the exact same thing. What's your point?
@MrfunnyNacho there are not hundreds of videos of the NYPD doing the same thing. They arent trained to make sure and ask if the suspect is ok after detaining them or holding them on the ground. Swedish cops are trained to do that. Keep trying. Just face it, cops in the US do not compare to the cops in Europe. The hiring process arent the same either.
@taco stains I'll end it here, since you clearly don't even know their UOF policies, how your own academies are structured. Just like you said I guess, all you do is what? watch youtube videos right?
@MrfunnyNacho and I dont need Columbus police when I already watch realworldpolice or whatever that channel is. Cops just dont perform the same as the one in Europe.
@Kita B. Fawkes This is my thoughts exactly. The entire video I was thinking "what is he doing, why is he shouting at him, why is he agitating him further". I fimd it very disturbing that the person you responded to immediately though "cop bad at his job" meant "didn't kill the suspect fast enough", as if the only way an officer can deal with a situation is to kill.
Talking is the most important tool of a cop, and talking to the person (talking, not yelling) should be the the primary focus in amy encounter, with violence being the last resort. Unfortunately police trainees are rarely taught this, new officers often approach any situation as if violence was imminent, and by doing so end up turning a non-violent situation into a violent one. There needs to be reworks onto police training to protect the police, the perpetrators and bystanders alike from unnecesary violence
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John Doe2021-07-18 03:45:46 (edited 2021-07-18 03:46:13 )
@Russian no one police officer is going to be able to take down a fully trained war veteran whose won multiple accolades for his bravery and skill in combat. Is it really respectful to say a innocent officer who was gunned down was horrendous at his job?
No seriously, I agree. The military had a blank check. They really should try to help these veterans. Vietnam and PTSD was bad, also the officer should been trained for handling situations in extreme circumstances... I feel bad. I hate that they have blank checks and fail these people
my dad was 17 and on the beaches of Normandy on D-Day. A few short years later, he was on the front lines in Korea. He won 2 purple hearts, bronze star and silver star. He NEVER talked about it but self-medicated with alcohol to knock himself out at night to forget.....every night......for the rest of his short life. That's what most of the men who went through these things did back then before PTSD was a recognized 'thing'......they just suffered silently. Please pray for everyone who has had to witness the horrors of war....
My grandfather experienced and then did the same. He was a piece of shit alcoholic that created a cycle of abuse in his family. Can't help but wonder how different him and my entire family may have been if he had never fought in wars. I guess I'll never know.
OK I know I'm going to get crap for this but what are they supposed to do ? Coddel him after he murdered a pregnant woman & what sounds like a REALLY good police officer. To you what they said may be unprofessional but to me he deserved those words.. he dodgy deserve to get beat up though, they are fully wrong for that.
You didn't include the audio at the end of the video of the firefight between Andrew and Kyle. I know why you didn't include it and in many ways I am thankful. But it's that audio that sealed Andrew's fate.
I've seen enough of these crime docs that I was completely expecting to hear something like ''Andrew mutilated his dog and fashioned tools out of his bones''. It's beyond terrible that the officer died for just doing his job, same goes for officer Debra.
Like nationalized healthcare and education isnt in Europe, Russia, Canada, and China.
Just admit that we cant afford it because "far right extremists" think capitalism is so flawless that stealing tax payer money to give to the wealthy isnt going to cause a recession because all the money trickles back down to the people, right?
Except it doesnt because that would be socialism. So the rich get richer whilst you complain about the possiblity of having an easier life. Your brain on capitalism everybody
@Nathaniel Chieffallo History has proven time and time again that socialism leads to extraordinary poverty for everyone but the few oligarchs at the top. Yes, I'm sorry that my "brain on capitalism" allows me to pick up a book and read it. Trying to pretend that Canada has either a medical or educational system that is noteworthy is laughable as well. My wife is Canadian and would have died if we had chosen to live in Canada with how ridiculously long the wait times are to see a specialist, let alone a GP. The irony of decrying capitalism, the economic model that has quite literally historically lifted entire societies out of poverty, on a platform that is purely available only due to said economic model while advocating for systems where virtually no innovation is made is so rich that it gives everyone here diabetes. Thankfully, most of us live in the US and won't have to wait 6 months to actually get seen by a doctor. Funny how that works.
@Eric Harrison "we could end world hunger if we just had socialized medicine" - Socialised medicine is only a radical concept to the radical right in my experience. You can run social and captal systems concurrently.
@Eric Harrison Many medical pharmaceutical companies in the US simply trade in innovation for policy favouring extended patent periods. Google lifespan in canada, UK and the USA. Then come back and tell me you're not as indoctrinated into an ideal as the people you discredit (in some cases rightly, though for the wrong reasons).
@Eric Harrison You should note that I'm not making arguments against capitalism in general here. Such debates serve little more than pushing for points regarding political ideology. I'm attempting to point out that your perspective is as warped by belief as those you oppose.
It's because it got age restricted. Youtube doesn't put age restricted videos in your recommendations, so only people who saw it on his page watched it.
@Sam I had to literally create a new account cause youtube would not let me watch this type of content. Teenagers are not babies for god sake. Well I mean anyone 15-16 is fair game to watch what they want.
@Führer Reicht dude i understand that kids nowadays have seen everything, but im sure there are some kids that wouldn't want to see something as sad as that
@Führer Reicht it is a little more complicated than restrictions for teens and children. It's both censorship for children and warning for adults. Restrictions and ratings are there so people can make an educated decision. I've been exposed to some pretty messed up graphic stuff without warning or proper content explanation. It stuck with me for months. I don't think it's bad to keep actual children from stumbling upon it. But I do think that educated consent is necessary and viewer discretion should be up to the viewer.
I had to confirm five times this time around on this video. That is def a record for me, which I must admit is surprising considering some of the stuff I come across!
He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged
“Orlando police had a prejudice against him” well yeah no shit he shot his pregnant wife and a police officer. I’m not saying they were right but you could surely understand why they may have had prejudice.
We train people to abandon humanity to conduct acts of violence and killing. That in any other circumstance would be punishable by death or life imprisonment, but fail to take accountability for the lost souls and minds we lose and create. War never changes. Such a tragic end for both parties.
For everyone ending their JCS binge journey here until the next upload, here’s another case I found on his backup page: https://youtu.be/rudSWhe_KD0.
Hopefully this helps hold you over until your next hit…video. I meant video. Definitely video, because it’s not like we’re addicts or anything... 🥴😵💫 *itches uncontrollably*
My father has PTSD though thankfully not anywhere near this bad. He’s a vet, and I honestly think PTSD robbed him of his life. He is the most intelligent, creative person I’ve ever met in my entire life and he used to write scripts and produce films. Now he’s homeless living in his car outside of the VA because they don’t even have enough room to house him. The military chews up young men and spits them out without the proper means to adjust back to society. These are the silent costs of war that I guarantee you not a single fucking world leader thinks about. Always check in with your friends and family, even a simple text could save a life. It’s our duty as healthy people to take care of and help people less fortunate because our government sure as shit ain’t gonna do it. Fuck War.
Mickaël Barbosa slow down tiger... that’s approaching levels of assumption I’ve never seen before. How about you don’t pretend you know everything about the situation and take the comment at face value.
sketchyforlife That is devastating, I’m so sorry to hear about your father. I agree, PTSD does rob you of your life. I hope one day your father will get into therapy and recover
thinking that the government should take care of your dad but not you instead... that's exactely how the government want people's minds. I don't even have words to describe (in english) how ridiculous this situation is.
@purplehaze2250 I finantially suport my entire family since I was 21, including my disabled mom (rent, groceries, all the house bills, etc). Also, i take all decisions and responsabilities. I know exactely how hard things can be and yet i'm not crying for father gorvernment help. Fuck people who thinks anybody onwes them anything.
The footage of that carpet bombing during Vietnam War is still intense to watch. My pop used to tell stories about hearing those waves of bombers coming. Scary stuff
Thankful everyday for the little white Bunny named Marshmallow that my brother got himself after returning from Afghanistan, really was a game changer for his ptsd.
I wish that police officer in the last video had gone ahead and taken the shot when he had the chance. So sorry for his family and the other officer who lost her life and the the momma and baby and others who died in this video.
And so; the spoiled privileged bureaucrats (who’ve never been to war) sentenced the clinically insane Vietnam veteran who experienced unimaginable horror to death
My god watching Andy dance around manically before switching into his war instincts is like something written out of a horror movie... That firefight is a frightening piece of footage
Countless firefights and live combat probably wired those movements and reactions into his entire being, Vietnam vets probably think about what they did every single day still. You can never forget certain things and sometimes they leave a permanent stain on your soul, most were 19-20 years old.
I’ve stupidly watched my fair share of graphic videos on the internet but for some really strange reason the Murder it Kyle Dinkheller has really effected me...
Can’t get it out of my head.
Like you said, it’s his switch from dancing around in the street to cold blooded murder, executing an already wounded man with a headshot.
Yet I feel so sorry for that guy ( obv not in this moment)
I also want to point out something: Why would you EVER want to release someone like Andy B into Normality? I mean, what if severe PTSD is not a sickness but a kind of super adaptation to extreme situations? Why would you release someone like this into normal life? Why not let him stay in the Army? This guy could out of shape and dozens of years after his war duty overpower an american police officer like he was nothing. Why would you release someone like this into normal life? Why not let him stay in the Army? Let him do training, promote him, educate other Infantry guys? Let him stay close to you, just in case a war breaks out. This is so terrible waste. I always thought to myself why the Army EVER let John Rambo go. I mean it is so nonsensical.
War created this problem and Moses made the best attempt at giving Andrew a life worth living and stopping him from doing something like murder but it was too difficult 😕
What about Moses? I don't see it killed or something terrible... Poor brainwashed kids that were led to those senseless wars, to "defend USA" 2000 km away I'd say. Even if they were to survive they were victims of PTSD.
@Milan Borizovski Majority of US soldiers were drafted during the war, sick bastard those politician. Most doesn't even want to fight, it's survival. I fucking hate the reality of it, it saddened me..
@Milan Borizovski I've been to Vietnam and befriended my oldest friends there. It's a beautiful country, it's sad that the politicians are still divided into south and north ideas. The north politicians tend to have higher rank than their southern counterpart, and the south still maintain an active opposition in the political stage. However they agree that during the American War, they both wanted peace and freedom for their country unlike North and South Korea that see eachother as rivals. Hell, majority of Northern "communists" during the war couldn't even read. It was a tragedy, but I'm happy that the current state of the nation is stable than their neighboring countries in the region.
this video have fewer views than others youtube is controlling this channel number of views i hope this doesn't affect the quality of newer videos because basiclly youtube right now is tolding the creator what to post and what to not and if the channel uploads something that doesn't fit with youtube point of view the video would not being shown to anybody which is a huge waste of the creator time and effort
I believe that's a psychological talk to subliminally (unless, had the officer explained or elaborated) emphasise on the pure soul that was killed rather than the girlfriend who's like us all, are not that pure considering the annoyance and hate we might have caused unto others and in this case, him.
That emphasis is directly to say without saying he's the worst monster one could ever be.
But well, in the end of the day, it's the veteran who was executed; a government forced person with mental conditions, product of their own doing - and not him who's apparently the real self-made monster.
All because people were seeing from one particular perspective, and not the bird's eye view 😭
It makes sense. He meant to kill his girlfriend, their best bet was to center the action around an innocent (his unborn child) to force empathy, instead of the target of his wrath ( his actual target) .
Netflix isn't the best form of recognition, Youtube is probably more used. I won't use such services, so I'm grateful that this is here! I want such channels to stay.
Zen Master Jack2021-06-12 15:40:37 (edited 2021-06-12 15:41:41 )
Nah Netflix would honestly ruin it. Big studios and companies like that don't know how to keep their hands off the production. They always want to mold it into their own corporate friendly agenda driven narrative.
The last statement of Andy B. made me weep. He was clearly in need of help, and nobody could help him. His last thoughts were to extend his apology to the family, and to be proud of his service. I'm weeping as I type this. Just a tragedy for everyone.
He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do with any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged, nothing else. Hundreds of people had PTSD from Vietnam: they didn't kill anyone. NO DAMN EXCUSES FOR MURDERERS.
@Raphaella Victoria he did that so the cop would shoot him. Our government failed this man and many others like him just to fuel a war filled with ego. It was a rich man’s chess game
It’s truly sad, one of those things you watch and you have a huge headache cause it’s so painful to watch. Sad for everyone involved, the officer, the vet, but he prob found the most peace in death. Hopefully he met all his family and fallen comrades after he moved on. Rip
@Raphaella Victoria You're way wrong here and clearly haven't been around enough people with PTSD. Actually that dancing and erratic behavior IS something that happens to soldiers with PTSD. I take it your ignorance stems from never seeing a video of WW1 vets with PTSD, used to be called shell shock. They show in the videos men doing EXACTLY what happened. Odd walking gaits, what looks like strange dances and movements. Your comment is completely ignorant and you need to actually talk to a psychologist about what PTSD actually entails. It's even more striking that you presented such biased and ignorant info with such assertion that you were correct. That soldier wasn't evil; his mind fragmented and it was a ticking time bomb before he either committed suicide or hurt someone and it was out of his control. If he wanted to mass murder, or murder police, he would have shot up a police station or mall. Just stop the PTSD hating and please actually learn what these people go through. NO ONE is saying shooting the cop was right, but you also have to understand Andy was not in his right mind all!
@Raphaella Victoria How can a "person with no empathy and no tolerance for certain types of people" be a psychiatrist? An actual psychiatrist is supposed to be able to assess both the mental and physical aspects of psychological issues. And, no, @Ren_C is not in the minority here ... I've spent the last thirty minutes reading comments from this video and most of them sympathize with or can relate to people dealing with PTSD without excusing their behavior.
This is a pretty charged topic, but I do personally think state of mind matters for anything. After all, we leverage consequences for crimes to mete out justice, a sort of equivalence of suffering or some token of it, and to act as a deterrent. If a person gladly kills and would kill again, then they don't bear the burden of conscience that another person would.
And it's further complicated in the case of true mental illness.. where the line between human and beast breaks down. You would not put down an animal out of "retribution", you're merely handling a dangerous threat. But then, does this mean we hand out capital punishment to all the mentally ill? Obviously not, because humanity still exists there.
@WanderingYankee EXACTLY! I if psychiatrists are like her no wonder he ended up in a firefight with a cop. Jesus. Dr. Hannibal Lecter would provide better therapy. The system failed this man and continues to fail our servicemen and women. I can't believe in 2021 we're STILL blaming vets for the trauma our governments put them through. He watched a comrade be blown apart in front of him and people are questioning the validity of his PTSD. People get PTSD from way less and it NEVER goes away; I have family members and friends who suffer from it every single day and when a PTSD attack takes over, dancing in the street is not outside the realm of possibility. I'm certainly not saying killing is good or anything, but it's clear Andy B wasn't in his right mind. Juries make mistakes on convictions all the time as lawyers can be very convincing and outright manipulative of facts in a case. Andy shouldn't have been put to death as he clearly was not in reality mentally after the war.
@Raphaella Victoria I just can't understand a psychiatrist just assuming "He's beyond saving and a murderer. And because he killed a man he's not worth understanding" when the man was clearly in the middle of an episode. Andy B probably wasn't even shooting at a cop in his mind in the moment. That man was back in the war that the government put him in. In the mind of a vet suffering from PTSD, the war never ends. That's the horrible part. Any sound, sight, or smell can set him off and send him right back to the hell some sociopath of a politician put him in. We can't blame vets for losing when they get back. They go through hell and come back and are left broken, with no job and no money. It's no wonder they end up committing suicide most of the time. As someone with a grandpa who was in the Korean War, it's so sad that so many vets come home to be faced with scorn from wars they didn't want to fight in. My grandpa was lucky to not have crippling PTSD, most people's grandpas from WW2, Korea, or Vietnam aren't so lucky.
@Ren C thank you for reading my rant; but haven't we all watched enough of these shows, about murderers and such, haven't we all read enough about the victims, to indeed not care about the monsters? im not talking as a psychiatrist when it comes to this. Yes, people do have PTSD and people go through hell, and it's horrible. Those people don't kill anyone. People are abused in childhood and horribly scarred, they don't kill anyone. No matter what someone claims made him do it, there is always someone out there who's been through the same thing, and didn't kill anyone. Especially unprovoked. No, there are no excuses. But obviously i have nothing against the unfortunate people who have suffered (but didn't go out shooting a poor cop who didn't harm him).
@Raphaella Victoria First off, this looks like a case of attempted suicide by cop, judging by his erratic and dangerous behaviour and him being happy to go in the end. And PTSD is way more of a grey scale than whatever you're spewing, It's them re-living their trauma. You're a "psychiatrist", you should know this at least. The path that led him down to this point was obvious, he was a man who was well-trained to kill, who watched over a dozen of his comrades die around him. So whilst he had a gun drawn on him and an officer yelling orders, his mind seems to have forced him back into the horrors of war. in that state of panic and stress, his combat training was the only thing his brain could've resorted to, and thus the officer was killed. And there are other cases like this by the way, way worse even; one of which was even told in this exact video, but it seems you missed that too.
@Raphaella Victoria I think it just has to do with individual people's minds. Not everyone would react the same way to a given stressor. I think the vast majority don't kill either, but when we're looking at a soldier who's beaten down by the military and built up to be a killing machine, he would default to violence during an episode more readily than you or I. At least that's the way I see it anyway. In any case, I feel it might just be best to agree to disagree as I think the issue is more multifaceted than Andy B being a bad person or not. I don't believe he was anyway; I just think the military turns men into beasts and then expects them not to crack in the worst conditions imaginable. Then they chuck them back into society, broke and alone, without helping them conquer their trauma. Truly sad. It's no wonder so many vets commit suicide.
@Raphaella Victoria "Nobody should care about the murderer's state of mind" I surely hope you were speaking out of anger because a psychiatrist saying THAT is clearly the dumbest thing one could say Wether you want to play it by Logic or Law It is never right to kill someone but to ignore the circumstances and not trying to learn about what and WHY it happened is clearly not something a psychiatrist should say If you are not trying to help people recover from their mental illnesses and avoid this kind of thing from happening just by stating your opinion as law while not even understanding the circumstances then I beg of you: quit your job. By the way saying "I'm a Psychiatrist" doesn't count as proof just saying..
@Raphaella Victoria "Yes, people do have PTSD and people go through hell, and it's horrible. Those people don't kill anyone" is clearly contradicted by the very video a person with PTSD killed a man. You can't generalize every person. "People are abused in childhood and horribly scarred, they don't kill anyone" ma'am you should watch the news more oftenly. They Do. Not every killer has been abused, scarred or has PTSD and not every abused, scarred or person with PTSD kill But, you need to understand that people who have had violent experiences where the only answer was to fight with no opportunity to flight then they will most likely use such violence when feeling threatened Many people with PTSD are treated. They receive medication and help from people that have a similar profession as yours. And they most likely won't kill That man, he didn't received more attention from his psychiatric and as said in the video had been the longest without the medication Looks like society didn't care of a crazed man in the woods, armed and without proper help or medication And guess what happened a police officer who was trying to do his job and didn't know about the situation with this man excited him, he was clearly confused, altered, mad, etc and responded. He didn't do what your model utopian citizen would do, he did what a person who has been traumatized, didn't receive help, was left alone because that clearly was going to solve anything, armed, confused and he made the mistake that took the life of an innocent man Instead of worrying about how the hell did we break a human so badly he killed another man all you care about is what he did, we have to care about what he did and why he did it The penalty be it right or wrong it happened. The police officer It truly saddens me but died unfairly The untreated soldier died as well They aren't just numbers you know? They are people.
@Raphaella Victoria No excuses for murderers, true, but there are always reasons. Those reasons are almost always so complex and numerous that they are impossible to fully unlock.
@Raphaella Victoria I completely understand what you are saying and agree with part of it. I fully agree that there are no justifications or excuses to kill someone in cold blood 99.9% of the time. That being said, everything we do in every moment of life we are doing them for a reason. That reason may be for serotonin, it may be for some delayed gratification, it may be for sick pleasure. Regardless, you will find a reason if you only seek it.
If you truly are a psychologist, which I am experiencing some doubt about, then you should very well know that these reasons can become distorted in the minds of the mentally ill. For example, a person with OCD may think, “I must feed my fish five pellets per day at exactly 24 hours since its last feeding. If I feed it four, it will waste away and die of starvation. If I feed it six, it will explode because it will be too full.” This perception in the mind of the mentally ill person is a fact. They don’t believe it, they know it. Nothing could convince them that reality is otherwise despite the irrationality of it.
That is what mental illness is. It is irrational. It is a chemical imbalance. It is a learned dysfunction. It could be all of those. A person with bipolar disorder who has a manic or dissociative episode and kills someone should not be held responsible for that crime. They didn’t do it. They should be held responsible in the sense that they are taken to a facility where they can live safely while keeping others safe in the process.
When you say some people are horribly scarred as children, I assume you are talking about sexual abuse. You are correct, they don’t all go out and kill people, but a disproportionate amount of them DO go out and commit sexual crimes. There is not and will never be an excuse to rape or sexually abuse another human but you must admit that this shows clearly that there are always reasons even for the most heinous of acts.
So when you say this person was not experiencing a PTSD “episode,” I encourage you to look again.
What you may find upon a second analysis is a person who has no regard for his own life. Perhaps even more convincing, he has no regard for his dog’s life or the effect that his actions will have on his dog. I think this clearly shows that he is suicidal. He wants to die, and he wants the officer to kill him. He realizes the officer is not going to kill him without more cause, so he retreats to his truck to get his gun. Perhaps it was the act of retreating. Perhaps it was his hands on his gun in a stressful situation. Perhaps he felt confident that his plan was going to work and that he was going to die, so his PTSD-ridden brain switched into fight mode as per his training. Whatever the specific trigger, he was triggered and he killed the officer during the resulting episode.
@Raphaella Victoria The fact you think we are defending a criminal and murderer is beyond everyone’s understanding. Just because we get why he did it doesn’t mean we are defending him. Your about page says the same thing because like other ignorant people, you fail to see the actual truth in what lies beyond the state of mind and what goes on through their head. If you have no empathy for psychopaths, murderers, etcetera, then you shouldn’t be recognized as a psychologist. A psychologist wouldn’t act like how you are acting, which is why this account you have is an alter ego account because you’re too ashamed to have the real account out there due to the fact that you are insecure about your own feelings. You are insecure about them because you know you are in the wrong and put out something that can’t be backed up as “true,” and I say this as your claim to be a psychologist. It doesn’t matter if your personal opinions clash with that of your job. If you feel that way then by all means quit speaking of your own volition or speak out of your job because the way you are acting contradicts that of your job title. As a psychologist you are supposed to help people, acknowledge people. A cop can easily be a murderer as well. The fact you think certain people are labeled as murderers and killers when the opposite side does the same is beyond my understanding. We kill animals for food. We MURDER animals for food. Cops MURDER suspects to survive, themselves. It is only just not branded that way due to the way it played out. Cops are heroes who murder. Murderers are evil people who murder. So are soldiers. Vietnamese people murdered the American marines and the same way did the Americans do that to the Vietnamese. So get your facts straight before you bias an opinion on someone who was deemed UNSTABLE and call him out for being a murderer when you know damn well we all murder and eat things that used to be something of living. Even PLANTS are alive, and we murder them too. So to think that if you were to use the vegan excuse here would definitely be unruly. Everything that you eat is living. Everything. Meaning we murder for our survival. The point is not that it is justified, but that everyone is a murderer. Everyone. Some are just worse than others. So deal with the fact of that of which the cop AND the suspect are both murderers, one is just worse due to his medical condition, which he was DIAGNOSED WITH PTSD, CLINICALLY DIAGNOSED. And to call him a murderer. He was acting symptomatic to that of PTSD. While it should not be justified it should have at least been taken into account. Being killed via lethal injection is also murder, but an eye for an eye, think about it, does that seem like justice to you?
@Raphaella Victoria My take is this young cop was somewhat aggressive for a simple speeding ticket, and Andy who put his life on the line, felt disrespected. That doesn't give him the right to kill. He appeared to want to commit suicide by cop. After the cop started shooting his training kicked in. He would have left the cop, if he hadn't tried to shoot him when he left. He returned to kill him. Life in prison might have been a better option in this case.
Poor guy. All the death and suffering he must have witnessed there... and losing his brothers too... I think he died back there, but it never caught up to him. in the dashcam you can even see him being erratic and goading the officer to shoot him, provoking him and not listening.
The graphic HORROR of the first 1:30 will never leave me. Was the footage from a film? Or was all filming just the U.S. making sure their pilots flew true, and that the bombs WERE effective. Just watch, I think it is Journeymen, for a glimpse of what Agent Orange wrought 2-3 generations later. Sickening, disgraceful...But I fully support the men and women of the military, even IF, High Command, was faulty, which IT WAS...how embarrassing. And our VETERANS STILL SUFFER from CPTSD, lack of funding for their care, lack of emotional/behavioral support, when the bloodfest was finished...OMG.
All he had to do was to not draw his gun like a power-tripping idiot. Then the veteran wouldn't have felt threatened. And you do not fucking threaten a soldier, they'll kill you without so much as second thoughts, let alone any regrets.
Wow this thread is full of erroneous statements, I don’t even know where to start. I’ll start w @Leslie P : that’s not why cops get shit.. I’ve literally never heard a complaint about a cop not sacrificing their life to catch a criminal. You’re creating a narrative that doesn’t not exist. Cops get shit for using excessive force. The cop that got shot by the Vietnam vet made so many mistakes it’s no surprise that he died. It’s unfortunate, but ultimately has to do with lack of training or this man simply not having the spine for dealing with an armed suspect. He panicked. It seems abundantly clear that police are much better at dealing with unarmed perps, and they often have no issues using lethal force when it is far from necessary, and they are practically never held to account in those scenarios. As for everybody just generally praising this cop; the only appropriate feeling is pity. His death is embarrassing. And to anyone saying he “didn’t want to kill the guy” I can only give you the slow clap. You’re delusional to think that this cop was knowingly giving his life to spare another. He panicked and shot all over the place. That’s not even in the same universe as what ours implying. I get it.. you love cops. You love authority. Good for you, but for gods sake, don’t be retarded. Unless you’re a retard, there’s just no excuse.
@bre barrera You are completely wrong, go watch the raw footage. The police officer drawn the gun first, opened fire first, and topped it off with shooting into veteran's back as he was walking away having let him live the first time. This is your typical police brutality scenario, except this time around the victim had the upper hand and came out on top. Maybe if more pigs were slaughtered by responsible citizens then maybe America wouldn't have the BLM riots over police brutality.
@Mi 28 Your facts about the video are correct. Cop drew his gun first and set the old guy off. Cop opened fire first, starting the firefight. Cop reloaded and then shot at Andy while he was leaving which made him return and finish the cop off. I don't think he was 'asking for it' though, just had no idea how to deal with someone with mental illness. And either cop ego or training to disregard retreat as an option will always lead to escalation. Kyle shouldn't have died that night and maybe Andy is better off not having to suffer PTSD, but no one had to die over a speeding ticket.
@TheChronographer thank you for being reasonable. these other guys in this thread have no compassion for either side; one saying more cops deserve to die and the other saying the cop did nothing wrong. neither of those are correct
Le best2021-03-04 09:49:26 (edited 2021-03-04 09:52:17 )
@Mi 28 LMAO that was a radio or a baton not his gun.. are you serious? Shortly before this incident happened, The cop in this video was told by his high ranking officers that he was too quick to draw the gun, hence he didnt draw the gun until it was too late because the opponent already had his rifle out. The initial shot from the cop was actually a warning shot, not a deadly one.
they hinted that the officer was very vigilant with speeders. So he is used to being somewhat arrogant, and when he crossed paths with the wrong guy, he didn't back up his tough talk. I think cops need to be very very humble, and not antagonize people or take their tremendous authority to their ego. I guess they deal with people who is in their face all the time, and they develop this over aggressive posture, seemed to me on the original video, Andy felt disrespected. Maybe a kindler touch could have prevented the tragedy, not excusing Andy.
@Leslie P Thanks sir you're free to go, then you pick him up later. Didn't we learn anything from Trautman and Rambo?
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@Mi 28 Oh, so the cop drew first, missed, then got shot. The veteran checked on him, and walked away, but the cop shot him in the back, THEN the veteran returned and finished him off? I'm getting a much clearer picture now. Seems like entire episode could have been avoided. I would have hung that jury to give Andy manslaughter.
@Scott Johnson Cops having bad marksmanship is completely common. He drew, opened fire and missed, at which point the veteran returned fire and injured the cop, then went back to his truck when the cop shot him in the back and hit him, which is when the veteran returned to kill the cop, this time aiming for the head.
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Le best2021-03-05 02:28:05 (edited 2021-03-05 02:29:46 )
@Scott Johnson Dude the reason he shot the dude in the back because andy shot the cop like 4 times, what else are you going to do? Its a life or death situation. Andy is the person at fault here, the cop gave too many chances. the cop didnt pull a gun at all, he was reluctant to because his sergeant told him before this incident that he was too reactive.
@Le best Andy isn’t the one to blame. It’s our government who forced him into a brutal scenario and then left him in the dirt when they didn’t need him. You don’t train someone to be a stone cold killer and then expect them to come back into society as if nothing even happened.
I love how you showcase the material and don’t make this about you. Although your personal contributions are subtle but outstanding.That is so rare on YouTube. Thank you for the great content.
Man, that Markieth guy just avoided the capital punishment just because of short term discomfort during his interrogation and blunts on his face upon his captivity while Andy, who suffered long term severe PTSD due to his horrible past, got in the gurney just because it's no one's fault? I feel sorry for Andy.
they left out the part where andy makes his way around the car and you can hear the screams. its genuinely one of the most haunting clips on the internet.
Yeah it's awful, not only do you hear him screaming while being executed, you literally hear his death rattle and final breaths. It's immensely awful and somehow 90's era dashcam audio picked it all up.
@Xavier Quiles Children of Bodom-Sixpounder. "Death? What-chu all know bout death" or Cobhc- Warhammer"from now on we are enemies, you and i". Random i know, epic quotes of metal! my metal brotha! Ha-ha-ha-ha!
Jacob Peters I actually got halfway through Aristotle’s Politics before some scumbag stole it from me. But, yeah, I don’t think our friend here reads Plato regularly.
I’m a 100% disabled combat veteran with PTSD (Afghanistan). Why should I not be ‘allowed’ to have a rifle? Why would receiving physical and/or mental injuries in service to my country ‘allow’ someone to violate my constitutionally guaranteed rights? Especially when Ive never had a speeding ticket much less commit a violent crime. Some of us do still hunt to put food on the table.
in the military, percentage disability is equivalent to civilian disability - you can be 100% disabled if you have lasting leg injuries, for example. it doesn't mean you're not able, or not allowed, to do certain things. you can also be 100% disabled if you are unable to function due to traumatic history.
in regards to the question "should people with PTSD have firearms" - maybe it should be no, but there's no legislation explicitly saying so. VA Title 18 U.S.C. § 922 is the closest, stating that the applicant “must not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or been committed to a mental institution,” but there is no direct tie to PTSD due to PTSD being a mental health diagnosis rather than a mental institution admission.
it's definitely a question to be discussed legislature-wise, but right now there's lawfully against someone with PTSD owning a firearm. personally, i think it would be a case-to-case basis based on doctor's recommendation.
NGL that ending got me a little teared up. I think we've all seen that clip of Andrew Brannan killing that rookie cop and I had heard the killer was a vet but I never heard the details of his life story and now can't help but feel an overwhelming sense of pity.
@Slothassasin Honorable service, is worthy of gratitude. If you wanna do great things, vist a VA state side and continue to be a good person when you are out.
@Slothassasin Exact same boat as you man; was stationed in Oki, got out last year, now working toward being a doctor. Oki was the shit! Soapy Soapy lol jk. Anywho, Semper Gumby brother and hope you have awesome Marines like I had.
I wrote above that I wept too. I did because my roommate from college killed himself after being infantry vet for marine corps in Iraq and Afganistan. I never understood why.
Death penalty was wrong. He was failed by the system 100%. But the video of him was disturbing and horrifying. He murdered someone, ptsd is not an excuse. Murder is murder. We shouldn't think of him as innocent. Doesn't excuse the death penalty though.
@Cho sjokolate THANK YOU! I have ptsd and it is NOT an excuse! You learn to properly deal with the shit on your own or you go get help. I’ve tried getting help and it only made me feel crazier, but I took the responsibility of helping myself learn and deal with my situation. He murdered that man and nothing can bring him back. I have zero pity for him.
people that lose their mind and go manic do reckless and self-destructive things and don't care about their life or dying. this can certainly give the appearance of courage but its not, you are still scared. he said he was also in fear of his life, when the deputy said it first when he pulled him over.
What did Lloyd have to do with Andrew? I watch these videos in segments as I only have my iPhone to watch them on. Perhaps I missed something. The guy who shot the pregnant woman and the female cop was too young to be a vet nor did he have PTSD. He seemed to simply be an asshole..
The point of this video is that video can influenced judge's perception on a case. That's why Lloyd only get life imprisonment instead of death penalty while Andrew got death sentence. Yes US has its own issues with judiciary system yet this is not the case.
I understand that man killed their coworker and friend, but how tf are you gonna tell a blinded man to open his eyes? In this situation I feel like they should have given him the best medical attention so that mf would have less than zero excuses to have any leniency in court. Isn’t the point of being an officer, detective, and interrogator is that you’re supposed to let go of your emotions in the interrogation room?
You deserve your own show on a streaming content provider. The way you lay out an events facts, and interweave the important psychological aspects of each case is truly a gift. I can’t wait to see you receive a budget from a studio and put together a whole season of hour long case studies. It would be in the top 10 most watched shows the week it came out on Netflix or wherever it was released, no doubt in my mind. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
Regarding Loyd's actions. What he did was despicable. He was afforded life in prison over the death penalty for the brutality of his treatment by the police both during and after arrest. They can state what they want about the reason they beat him at time of arrest but to then outwardly treat him as they did after is why Loyd was spared. The jury agrees Loyd deserves punishment and also punishment isn't to be inflicted in an inhumane way that goes against basic rights set forth by the law of our country and is without exception. If the police had treated him with composed apathy and not reduced themselves to acting at Loyd's level of disrespect and disregard for human life, Loyd would have seen the death penalty. The veto of the death penalty in this case was the juries way of saying they wouldn't reward cruel and criminal behaviour from the Police but also they recognize the actions taken by Loyd required severe punishment. Thus life in prison.
This is truely one of the most saddest videos I've ever seen. Andrew Brannan did kill a police officer, but it was due to his severe PTSD which was compounded by the deaths of his brothers and his isolation after the war. Even though he killed that cop, its always extremely disheartening when I hear that quote from him at the end expressing guilt and sorrow for what he did and how it made the cop's family feel. What's even sadder is when he says "I'm happy to be getting out of this place." This made me realize the absolute devastation that war does to the minds of young men and women. It's very surreal when I first heard he was 21 on his first deployment, and that I'm that age now and I couldn't even begin to imagine the how seeing 14 of your comrades and friends be blown into pieces would alter your mind.
Hey pinko, go watch the actual non edited video. It's terrifying. The screams of that young man getting gunned down by highly trained and highly unstable killer.
Im a nurse and back in 2015 i worked on a dementia unit in a nursing home. We took in a patient once who was a nurse during the Vietnam War. He had been diagnosed with severe PTSD and dementia and was deemed too severe to remain in the community any longer. In the morning he'd be perfectly pleasant, get himself dressed. Yet Everyday around 4pm there was a change that came over him. He'd loose all affect, he'd turn the bill of the baseball cap around and start stalking the unit. His wife once told me that he was a sniper during the war as well. Hed get really aggressive and scared all of the other patients and ended up having to have one-to-one staff watch every evening. It was like he was a totally different person. You couldn't talk to him or anything he'd be a totally different person, mumbling under his breath and was quick to swing on anyone (staff or patient) who got close to him. He would sometimes baracade himself in his room and always acted like he had to defend himself under attack.. The staff and family wanted him on Ativan 24/7 but we weren't allowed to give him any sedatives bc its considered a chemical restraint and the State kept saying that regardless of his mental consition there were other alternatives that had to be instituted and that his actions were violent enough to warrant being chemically sedated. In the end he became too much of a threat to the otherr patients (some of them were too confused to realize that they should've stayed away) and hed be on the attack. He ended up being transferred to a nursing home specifically for Vets.
All that just to say war is mentally and physically damaging to everyone including the soldiers who fight the wars. It's really sad. imagine if war was fought btwn ghe country's leaders there would be less instances of combat
@Frank Diamond it was a struggle working with him honestly and quite sad because he was SOOOO nice in the morning. Always joking around with the staff and everything. But then he'd start sundowning and became an entirely new person. Plus, he was a big broad guy too and was wayyyyy too strong for us females to handle on days when he got really bad. He seemed to have always been a fairly jovial and pleasant person all his life according to his family. So to see him regress back to his war days in his old age almost seemed like he'd been holding in the memories after all these years. It was just sad
I worked at a dementia unit, just like the one you were at, also in 2015 funnily enough. I could only work there for one month before I caved, as I didn't have the emotional stamina to deal with elderly people who were just fragments of their former selves. We didn't have any veterans at my ward, but the most notable elders was one lady who always thought she was at an airport on the way to visit her family, a man who refused to be taken care of by women (he really liked me because I was the only male worker) and a man who also had tourette's, so he would twitch and shout profanities at people.
I was told to read the medical journals of the residents during break time so I could have more of an understanding of who they all were. The worst one I read was of a lady who had been the victim of domestic abuse for many years, and she was admitted to the elderly ward after she had attempted to take her own life by hanging herself. Right when she stepped off the chair, her son and grandchild walked into the room. Her son managed to save her before asphyxiating, as her neck hadn't broken from the hanging, miraculously. But while at the ward, she would just sit and watch the TV in her room 24/7 and only came out for meals.
A couple months after I stopped working there, an old co-worker and friend from there told me that lady had committed suicide by jumping off the balcony in the group room (the ward was on the 4th floor).
I have huge respect for nurses and other social workers who can stomach that environment. I thought I could, but I learned quickly how bleak and sad some peoples lives are.
Just imagine the worst thing you have ever been through , anything that shook you to the core . I don’t think it’s even close to what they went through but my point is , imagine it’s al over and ALL OF A SUDDON your back to normal , like nothing ever happened . One day fearing that bullet through your dome the next sitting wide open on your porch with people who had no clue what it was like . I have met a few people from Vietnam .. . They are all messed up . These are things you can never forget. Thank you sooo much to those who have risked their lives for my freedom . I pray for u and everyone else in the armed service , first responders and the rest of the hero’s . Truly , thank you 🙏🏻
I'm sorry, "he's going to kill me, I'm not going to live past 25" how tf, when tf is that ever funny?! That's exactly why I'm gone at the first hint of crazy I've learned to never underestimate what a person is capable of! 🥺🥺😨😨😨
Vietnam broke my father. He came back to a world that hated him, when he left as a boy he was told "save the world". Remember, we're all more than we show and we all hurt more than you'll know.
Youve got one of the most brutal cruel government of the world. In europe we see you a bit like stuck in the colonisation period. Still killing people as a punishment n stuff.
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm German and too young for any wars but I have a friend in the US who went to Iraq. He is a good man. It seems to be the same thing time and again: The powerful lie to their people, lie them into aggression and then sacrifice them. War is wrong.
Remember, there were people on the other side of your father’s gun fighting for their land and their children..
How do you think all those hundreds of millions of victims of America’s “democracy bombings” all around the world feel and what is their mental health like..?
@splifstar85 Probably as damaged as all of the victims of war. It isn't "us vs. them". We're all humans and until we stop murdering each other, we'll never heal.
sure, and did your father kill someone? this isn't relevant. If this police officer had been your father, you think you woud have cared? what if it had been YOU he had shot?
@cecil keith sorry for your loss and the nasty comments. now you cant justify what the us goverment did and does.. you cant ask compassion when you are a war criminal
@splifstar85 I don't understand what you would want them to do, NOT listen to orders? Humans' relationship with authority is extremely frightening. An experiment where people re-enacted things Nazis did carry it out all because there was a higher authoritarian figure telling them to do so. Obviously, you do have a point, this was not a black and white situation, but I'm sure you're a reasonable guy, I'd dig more into it.
@Its Ozzy I think you are referring to the Milgram experiment - where he demonstrates how authority figures can make people commit acts they themselves consider unethical..
But in my criticism of US war crimes I’m actually directing that criticism mostly on the government (the authority figures), though the soldiers these days do sign up on their own accord and thus carry some of the responsibility (however, in the case of this guy, if I remember correctly, during the invasion of sovereign Vietnam there was a national draft, thus men had to enlist and serve)..
But my point about this particular case is more in line with Dr Philip Zimbardo’s work as outlined in his book “The Lucifer Effect”..
In my opinion this guy should’ve been granted some leniency due to what the government MADE him go through (due to the compulsory draft).. (and he clearly did not commit 1st degree murder - thus actually planned on killing someone, it was just a set of circumstances for which the government is at least partially responsible!!) and perhaps he should have been given a life sentence WITH parole at some point, rather than death
@Raphaella Victoria well if it had been me/him (“you” as you put it) who had been shot, I doubt I/him would be cable of experiencing feelings of this Earthly existence, such as caring... so in that regard your point is mute.. But in regard if it were my father.. I would want revenge at first for sure (“an eye for an eye”, as it says in the Old Testament).. but after learning his story, I’d like to believe that I would feel compassion towards him, in accordance to the (new testament) of the Holly book..
@Der Stoff aus dem der Joghurt ist lol bro we went in there for France. And y'all send contingents to the ME with us, even swiss troops have been over there with us. Lulz. No room to talk. Y'all just pretend you aren't literally there with us.
good bless him, war is the closest to hell man can travel while still on this side of the mortal curtain, to have his fellow countrymen revile him due to pop culture propaganda and his government forget him is an insult beyond measure.
@Tevo77777 I don’t know about right now.. but compared to what the French had done to some African nations in the past, US doesn’t even come close to that level of carnage (when it comes to Africa)..
hey I've been to that veteran's hospital. I can't remember the circumstances exactly but it must have been related to my mom's boyfriend at the time. anyway.
too bad the jury did just because of a little retribution footage. makes you wonder if they even knew what he did, or if all they saw was the interrogation footage.
@Mario Calabrese The veteran was the guy who shot the one cop. The man who murdered his girlfriend, baby and the cop was not a veteran with ptsd. On the contrary he was already a kmown criminal. He had no excuse whatsoever except 'the police already punched me so just let me off with murder :)' and the court system somehow did and called that justice. Meanwhile the vet got the death penalty no mercy.
@Truth Seeker Always Yeah, life for a known criminal, murdering three people on two seperate occasions, with no excuse like ptsd caused by being a veteran. While the death penalty goes to the veteran with ptsd who had a mental break and killed one person because of it. I think that's unfair and you think I'm a white supremacist, bet you wouldn't be saying that if the races were flipped huh? You sure it's not you who's the racist? You can't say you're for equality and not agree that these cases were handled unequally considering their history, who they killed, and that one was killed for the lesser crime and the other was allowed to live for the worse crime.
Really? Police are supposed to be above this type of retribution. Kicking him in the face? Wishing he was dead? If you can't do the job of policing, then you don't deserve to wear the uniform. It's pathetic, sorry. We are better than that. Well, I thought we were. This fraternal order is BS too - you don't stick together, you follow the letter of the law. PERIOD.
I feel you. But it isn't the cops' job to exact vengeance. Kicking a suspect's eye out, deliberately cuffing him too tight, and most of all denying medical care, is simply unprofessional. All the officers involved or consenting by their non interference should be fired, and the ones who kicked him in the face while he was flat on the ground should be prosecuted. There's no other way to make this thug behavior stop.
@Roger Lewis Agreed. Rather than lessen the sentance of a dangerous, ruthless murderer, they should have tried and punished the cops who broke the law themselves.
The simple FACT that the officers were not even charged with a crime is the issue at hand WORLDWIDE. Police are servants. They are not Big Brother. They do not get to exact revenge for either a dead woman or a fellow officer. If you are willing to accept this behavior, then you can't cry when it's one of your family members who gets kicked in the face or even you. Wait.....you didn't do anything wrong? Too bad, you just let the cop be the judge and jury. You lose an eye for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The point was not sympathy. It's (in theory but underutilized) an accountability and incentive system. Don't like the perp because he hurt one of your own/something personal? Let that affect your job and following the letter of the law? Fine, but then you won't get the conviction you want and the perp lives. The jury rightfully contested the legality of the perps arrest and interrogation, partially so that in the future, those cops CANT get away with not following the law AND seeing the conviction they wanted. Of course, what this perp in particular did IS heinous, don't get me wrong, but when it's as important as police/penal proceedings, the rights of the suspect must remain preserved as per the defined and amendable conventions of criminal law.
@Rayat R Are you sure it's underutilized and not simply ineffective? For regular people a dissentive to beating people half to death or murdering them, is jail time. You lose your job, your relationships, your basic comforts, your freedom, your life basically for however long you are sentanced for. Those years are lost. That's a much bigger dissentive than having somebody else not get as bad a punishment for a crime.
Let's face it, that has little if not no impact on their lives at all in comparison to what regular people would be punished with if it were them and not police. This 'accountability and incentive system' does not appear to be working and I am not surprised.
@Sheechiibii Fox You're right, actually I agree. Ultimately the families of the victims got it the worst - they had no part in his illegal police process and yet faced the greatest loss of potential "satisfaction" from the lesser sentence. What needs to happen is a retrial, renewed arrest process with an independent observer/attorney present, and then a fresh, fair and legal court case where he gets what is appropriate, and any involved cops also get what they earned, namely a paycheck for those that did the right thing and stopped the wrong, and commensurate penalty for those who did wrong/let wrong happen
@Luca Brasi True! I know it isn't a perfect world, but they had to know the chopper was getting video and probably (long before this incident) understood they would not be held accountable for kicking a cop killers eye out. But, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child.
@bee So? Does that mean the victims and their families shouldn't get justice? While the police who handled it horribly face no punishment either? Do you think that's the correct way for 'justice' to be served?
@Life Hacks Youtube Dude with the Rock That's not really true. I think you mean accused disgusting criminals have human rights. Once people are convicted and prosecuted for disgusting crimes though, they lose human rights such as their freedom or in worst cases their life. Exemplified by the veteran with ptsd in this video: his right to live was officially revoked as soon as they found him guilty and decided his punishment would be death. Whether he was disgusting could even be debated, unlike the other guy he didn't mean to hurt anyone and he was remorseful, but you can't say he was still allowed his human rights.
You're assuming Markeith didn't have some sort of mental lapse. Your racism is showing. People don't randomly kill their girlfriend and a cop without some sort of mental break. The fact that you didn't even consider that shows your bias. Neither of these situations should have happened - but there's still no excuse for a cop to beat Markeith as senselessly as they did. Their job isn't to exact revenge or be the judge in the situation at all, so yeah the cops fucking sucked and denied him medical attention. Rethink what you're saying
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Barry Shitpeas2020-07-16 03:05:35 (edited 2020-07-16 03:06:21 )
@alukuhito It's a bad precedent for human rights abuses. What happens when they take this attitude to innocent suspects? That happens constantly. How are you folks so simple minded lol
@Matt Goddard How is it racist to want and expect justice for two black women and a baby who were murdered by the same man on two seperate occasions? Pulling the race card here just shows your own racism. You appear to care more that the murderer is black and should be given sympathy on that basis, but where's the care for his victims, all of whom were also black? Must be because of their race so I guess your racism is showing.
@Sam Yeah I absolutely have sympathy for the serviceman who killed a cop during a ptsd flashback. I don't have any sympathy for the idiot who murdered his pregnant girlfriend, then went on the run and murdered a good service woman.
@Sam We have no reason to believe that, it wasn't a defence used at his trial which you'd imagine it would have been if that were the case. You could say that about literally any murderer 'oh maaaybe something bad happened to them to make them go on a killing spree' but the fact is there's no indication this guy had ptsd, while we know the veteran definitely did, and yet the veteran was killed for the lesser crime of killing one person, while the guy who we have no reason to think was not in his right mind when he killed the mother of his kid, his kid, and then another woman in a different place on a different day, got the lesser sentance, was not killed for his horrific crimes. Do you seriously think that is fair justice?
@Truth Seeker Always she did not say a word about race she merely stated facts and if the vet was black and the wife killer white it does not change facts. Only intellectually light weights or a racist bring up skin color in everything. So which one are you? Or maybe you're both.
@Truth Seeker Always are you equating a violent criminal who murdered his pregnant girlfriend with all black people? Idk that sounds more racist to me.
@Sam Lol, of course. What is your logic in here? That we should treat all murderers equally? It's obvious you need context and to know their crimes, so don't bullshit us that if we not feel sorry for a guy who killed in cold blood two women, one of whom was pregnant with his baby and compare it to feel sorry about sick person, who didn't even choose their circumstances.
@Sheechiibii Fox everything you're saying is 100% wrong, you are innocent until proven guilty and have the right to a trial represented by a jury of your peers. Police cannot beat the shit out of you and permanently blind you for surrendering
@Lilith Luna Maybe you replied to the wrong person here, because I never said cops could or should beat people senseless for surrendering. Or anything even close to that, so...?
Is it that hard to understand what the job of the police is? They are supposed to arrest people, not punish people. They are supposed to bring the accused and let our legal system do its job. There was no reason the cops should have kicked this man as he was lying on the ground. It is clear police brutality, or at least police misconduct. And no, it doesn’t matter that this man is a disgusting murderer. That doesn’t give the police the right to kick his face in.
@Mario Calabrese Well he shot and killed his pregnant girlfriend. It's pretty clear he didn't value their lives that much. If it wasn't clear he wouldn't be in jail for life.
@Mario Calabrese Why do you bring up ptsd as a defence for this murderer? There is no indication he had ptsd at all, his lawyers would surely have brought that up if he did. You must be confusing him for the other case mentioned in the video, the veteran with ptsd who killed one cop and was sentenced to death for it despite those circunstances. The man you are defending did not have ptsd, he murdered his girlfriend and child before going on to kill a cop without being mentally impaired by a mental break like the veteran. Yet he was allowed to live, while the man with ptsd was sentenced to death. If you care about the trauma of ptsd and it's effects being recognised, you're defending the wrong murderer.
@Mario Calabrese Are you of the opinion that nobody commits murder if they don't have ptsd? Or do you think his lawyers wouldn't have thought of that possibility during his murder trial if it existed?
@Mario Calabrese I have PTSD. Most people with ptsd feel safe around family and don't just shoot up their pregnant wives, if anything they go to them to feel safe. It doesn't change anything.
@Mario Calabrese And why do you think he probably has ptsd? There is no evidence he has ptsd at all and apparently you don't think that people have ptsd simply because they murder - so what reason do you have to say he probably has ptsd?
@Sheechiibii Fox I may have him confused with someone else then, my mistake.
He still absolutely could have PTSD though and that's not an outlandish statement to make. Racial minorities are more inclined to be impoverished, poverty increases your chances of trauma, impoverished minorities are much more likely to be underdiagnosed.
But yes, I seem to have confused this man with another.
@Mario Calabrese Thank you for admitting your mistake, a lot of people wouldn't bother. I don't dissagree that ptsd often goes undiagnosed, and it is important to keep these possibilities in mind
@calorieboots It stated that his attourneys planned on using insanity as a defence but instead focused on his treatment after his arrest. If they used insanity as a defence, that's not included in the video which it should be if that were the case.
@Sheechiibii Fox True, it says they switched their focus, but I assume they would still have had to argue a defense to the crime itself, unless they argued for a mistrial—but the video doesn’t mention that either so I’m not sure. Seems like looking it up is the only way to know!
@I Was A SaintWhat are you talking about? It is the fact that both crimes were the same but the punishments widely different that I think is wrong. The ptsd is only relevant because it is a better defence than the other guy had, since it is a mental illness, yet he still got the worse punishment. Nobody is saying he shouldn't have been punished, but if he was, even though he had ptsd, why on earth did the other murderer not recieve as bad or worse a punishment? Apparently for no reason to do with him or his crime.
@Sam Brennan was an unwell veteran that was cast aside after serving our country. Marqueef was simply a cold blooded piece of shit sociopath. Neither are excused for their actions, but it's stupid to say that the veteran doesn't deserve sympathy, especially over Marqueef.
@TheFire1290 And yet the punishment is given to the families of the victims of a murderer as they are denied justice. And not the police who beat the murderer. Yeah, that seems like a great deterrent rather than a complete deflection /sarcasm.
two wrongs don't make a right, he deserved life in prison for his actions, but still should be giving his rights, not that I'm saying that the cops where completely out of place in feeling like that
@Wyatt Smith right… but I’m saying they tried to use the treatment of him as a basis to prove he was innocent. I’m not saying they aren’t guilty of possible mistreatment.
Definite decrease in quality since the reupload. Need the rest of it to really tie together how video can affect a jury. Although I don't ever expect Youtube in all their extremist policies to allow it.
The visual of him limping into the woods with a gunshot wound and his dog who was the only thing he loved in the world following behind as he's bleeding made me sad. I know he killed someone but I can't have any anger at him bc of his mental state and PTSD.
@Piky It's pretty clear what he did was a result of his mental instability, captain pedant. I'm not saying he deserves a standing ovation for gunning down an officer but it's also pretty clear he was pretty much gone mentally.
@MeKLiN Maybe by not taking shots at the man who was very clearly trying to provoke him by showing he had a gun with a likely intent to use, and allowed himself to be in the line of fire several times. Wouldn't blame anybody for firing under those conditions.
Wow! This episode just knocked me flat. So powerful. Well done. You brought out very difficult, complicated & multi-layered issues in a thought provoking manner.
This is exactly why the death penalty is insane in a modern society. Aside from it doing nothing to reduce crime, it takes one killer and puts the death of a human on the heads of a dozen more people. No one can predict how they're gonna feel about their actions over time.
Na death sentence is justified in far more instances than it is actually utilized. Noone cares about deterrents; punishment and retribution is enough of a reason.
If we need stronger deterents let's start using torture - plenty deserve it
@Jerome Powell I don't exactly disagree, I just don't want my government in charge of revenge. Let the victims kick his ass if yr gonna offer vengeance as a punishment.
The thing is that people don't consider the consequences when they commit crimes. It's usually empathy that stops people, not logic. We know a lot about criminal psychology now, we just haven't applied it to the legal system in America.
I feel so bad for Andy! PTSD is horrible!! He put his life on the line just to never truly escape Vietnam. He's not a murderer, he literally was back in Vietnam when that happened, only someone who has PTSD will understand and I have it so I completely understand what he was going through. Damn, that's so heartbreaking!
I remember being a little boy in Baghdad when the US forces started to settle in, they were surprisingly kind, funny and helpful. One of them even gave me a few pointers to improve my English. How can anyone justify the way these people are treated once they're back? They are not disposable objects, they are people.
Sadly comments like these, which I appreciate, are always overshadowed and one sided. I'll probably get flak for that, and I'm not excusing the Iraq war or civilian casualties. But most civilians haven't a clue about the nature of war, and only see the bad with armchair analysis.
Comments like yours are important. Plenty of those who deployed and worked day after day with Iraqi's made lifelong friends. I went through an anti-military phase where I lost respect for veterans. Boy, am I glad I came out if that ignorance and realized you can't blame the average service member for the evils of the government.
Justifying your country being invaded, occupied and bombed to oblivion because a few guys were decent. And for what? Poppy plants and oil. Great logic there.
@Comrade_Dornish It sounds like @Hsn Firas wasn't making justifications-simply making the observation that the invaders of his(?) country had soldiers that were humans, and not inherently evil. All wars are bankers wars and they often fund both sides. Rothschilds are the true villains here, the rest of us are their pawns. Get everyone hooked on what poppys are used for and fossil fuel; then choke said supply. smh
That's a mask. If they were told but our government to blow you away, they would without hesitation. If you spoke your native tongue over here, they would harass you to no end.
Well, one dude shot his pregnant wife to death and then killed a police officer, and the other dude was speeding soooooo surely you can understand the different situations
The government only care about soldiers when they're able bodied and fighting wars the government start. If the soldier gets a physical or mental illness they don't want to know because then that PERSON is a liability who's care takes money away from the other wars they want to start.
@Comrade_Dornish similarly the the Soviet Union, many soldiers fighting with the Nazis were forcefully conscripted. I don't believe you could possibly be so ignorant to a well documented issue.
I'm glad you posted this-though I've heard of other times where soldiers have acted far more barbaric, it's good to see the other side where they weren't.
And even if it was only 1% of the american army that raped dozens of women, killed hundreds of inocents, and marked a generation with the orange agent, it would be enough to mark them as monsters, hell, only a part of the german army even knew about the camps and we still judged them all, i dont see why we should threat them different
Reading this comment gave me chills!!! Just wish I seen more of them!!! Its sickening to see we have all the money it takes to fund a 20 year war, but God forbid they put alil of it away for the men and women that gave their lives and CONTINUE giving in order for them to even be capable of having their "lil wartime parties" to play real life "RISK"!!! Men and women that are fucking kick ass and are some of the most if not feared/lethal people on this planet!!! Asking 0.2 to 0.5% from 100s of billions if not (like the Iraq war) almost 2 trillion dollars, isn't that hard, nor would it break their nvr ending wealth.... Nope throw them back out into society with massive PTSD and make more money off them will in the process hoping they utilize the training they gave them when they do snap. That's what they call a win win, say he/she takes out 12 to 20 people that's just population control to them, they will make money off the news and twist the narrative in there favor and now they can throw him in prison put him/her on death row for 30 years to soak as much taxpayer dollars!!
Bad Cattitude Your absolutely correct. If I might add there is a very interesting component to why the Vietnam troops were treat such as they were, I’ll try to be brief but I believe this if thought about should be considered as a valid point that I’ve never heard discussed before so here it is: The anti-war movement begins for the most part in college campuses now while I’m certain they believed the US had no business getting involved but what obviously was an even more important issue for them was that their generation was going to be called in to fight this war, so they protest, obtain as many deferments as possible to avoid the draft but as the war raged on those initial deferments were done away with so many were eligible to have the A-1 draft status dropped on them, its about this time that the protests changed from solely against the war to also now against the troops for being involved in this unjust war and the reason the hatred for the troops had to happen was to justify protesters refusal to go to the war, but there was a HUGE MORAL ISSUE RELATED TO THE IDEA OF THEM NOT PREFORMING THEIR DUTY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY REFUSED TO GO IT DID NOT STOP NOR SLOW THE WAR N FOR EVERY GUY WHO WOULDNT GO SOMEONE ELSE NOW HAD TO TAKE THEIR PLACE EVEN THOUGH THAT PERSON WAS JUST AS UNENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE WAR AS THE PROTESTERS BUT THEY FELT THEY HAD TO HONIOR THEIR DUTY TO OUR NATION. NOW THATS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE PROTESTER BECAUSE THEY LOSE ANY MORAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR ACTIONS IF SOMEBODY ELSE LOSES THEIR LIFE IN WHAT SHOULDVE BEEN THEIR BEST SPOT, SO THE SOLUTION THEN BECAME “WELL ANYONE WHO DOES GO TO VIETNAM IS AN EVIL VILE CRIMINAL AGAINST HUMANITY AND DESERVES WHAT THEY GET”. THIS WAY THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT COULD NOT HAVE ALL THE HYPOCRISY COME DOWN ON THEM AS WELL AS APPEARING EXTREMELY WEAK FOR MAKING SOMEONE ELSE FILL IN CUS THEY REFUSED TO HONOR THEIR OBLIGATION BUT WITH CREATING THE TROOPS AS WILLING BABY KILLERS THEY COULD ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN THE MORAL HIGH GROUND THEY BELIEVED THEY HAD!! Look into the timeline of the war n the anti-war movement and you will see that the spit on the troops concept does not occur at the beginning of the movement at all because the college kids had automatic draft deferments n only over time as these deferments went away n the movement people became draft eligible which made it all most a certainty that they would in fact get drafted n have to serve in Vietnam is the exact time the anti-war movement add anti-troop as well to justify them not going n others who probably felt the same way but still went so they turned the attention to the people who suffer thx to others not full filling their obligations n presto those who served became vermin!! Self interest is and always will be just about the number one motivation behind everything n this situation was no different. Please not I’m not making an opinion one way or another, I was not old enough to serve back then not to mention I really try not to get to judgmental about stuff I did not take part in or witness, of course there are many exceptions to this but with this topic I will not judge but I do always want to understand as best I can. Thx for all your time sorry so long n repetitive!! Hope your all healthy n reasonably happy!!
Bad Cattitude The thing is, most people fighting in Vietnam were drafted in. They didn’t really have a choice (unless they wanted to go into exile or prison). If anything, those fighting in Vietnam were even less culpable than those fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That being said, I don’t think that soldiers should be blamed for the crimes of our government. They are usually younger, poorer members of society, manipulated by movies and advertising, and the promise of an education. It’s insidious.
We spend a ridiculous amount on war, but we have starving kids in the country, people dying of preventable illnesses, and the soldiers aren’t given enough care when they get back.
The whole system needs to be dismantled. As long as people care more about selfishness and greed than humanity and ethics, our country’s backwards priorities will continue to proliferate.
Karl V Redweld Yeah, and most of those German soldiers weren’t prosecuted. The ones who were prosecuted were the ones who engaged in war crimes.
Saying you were just following orders is not an excuse if you’re committing a war crime, but if you’re just a regular soldier, you shouldn’t be condemned for the crimes of the government, and the decisions of more powerful military leaders.
Well as a kid in Iraq they shot my sister died and blinded my dad so be glad you were well off enough to get out before it got bad and those “kind funny soldiers” showed their real faces. And for what? Absolutely nothing.
I’m a veteran that got out last year. I’ve since been to the VA and got diagnose with PTSD, Major depressive disorder, anxiety, insomnia and suicidal ideation. After I was diagnosed I applied for disability and I’m currently waiting on the results of my disability claim. Knowing how this country treats veterans, I’ll probably get rated at 0%. I literally can’t function normally either socially or occupationally. I’ll let y’all know what the results are. Hopefully they’ll be able to validate everything I’ve gone through, I’ve gone through enough already. I’m tired
this is an interesting one. i hate this man for murdering that cop and his girlfriend who had a baby. but these cops shouldn't be cops or at least have some kind of repercussion for showing such a strong hated towards him during the interrogation and the way he treated him before. i get cops are humans and i understand why they acted that way but we have to be better then this. :(
The people who sent these men to war should be sent to prison, war is evil "war is hell" and these men were forced to go there, and when they made it back alive they don't even get treated with respect
What a horrible situation for both men. They both served in one way or another for a cause they believed in, and it led to their death. Their fates were oddly similar..
This video made me bawl. The comparison you made between cases, how visual informations affects our perception when we don’t know the whole story, is so interesting and sad. War is hell. Thank you so much for making this and sharing it
While you could agree that cops involved in Markieth case should keep their cool and act professional, I see no one condemning the judge. Ffs, how does the misdemeanor on the part of the detectives have any bearing on this guy's deeds? It's not like they got some false confessions, it shouldn't have impact on the verdict.
I’m not sure how I feel about the police kicking that guy after he’s already subdued, but I will tell you this; he fucking deserved to lose an eye, if not more.
I suffered from PTSD and I can say that it ruins your life, it’s absolutely crippling and getting help is hard as nails. Re living every memory is so tough.. I feel real sorry for this dude, this is all so tragic.
It really hurts me when a black officer who is invested and trying to better her people and community and his struck down by one of her own brothers or sisters. Rest easy sister, protect those from above
As a black psych major I have 2 things to say as a black man watching this I have to say if this was a black man they would’ve shot him on sight . Secondly this man didn’t deserve the death penalty he needed help but I do feel jail time would also suffice also this cop could’ve detain him but idk
This video makes me sad, here no one won, there were two victims, one a victim of homocide in the line of duty and another a victim of corporate and personal international greed, used up then discarded as a used shoe, left to fend for itself back in society with a big bandage that did little to help him. I am not in favor of what he did, I’m just stating the reality of the consequences of humanity in todays day when greed is the only thing that they care about, at the expense of others
My paternal great-grandfather and his brother fought in the Finnish Winter War during WW2. He died just a couple days before the war ended, but my great-uncle survived and he suffered bad PTSD and depression. He apparently hated cooking as the sizzling sound of a frying pan would make him anxious, and he consequently stuck to eating premade foods or food that didn't require cooking (bread, salads etc). That wasn't the only thing that set off his PTSD, that's just an example.
When my dad was 4 years old (so in 1967), there was a family gathering because it was my grandfather's 40th birthday. My great-uncle attended, but he hadn't been outside his house for weeks at that point. He was gloomy and all around just seemed to "not be there". In the middle of the night when everybody had gone to sleep, he went out into the toolshed and shot himself in the head. My grandmother was the one who found him and it was a big tragedy for my family. My grandfather ended up inheriting most of his things, there among many other possessions was his journal from the war. In it, he had mostly written about his days in the war as it happened, but he had kept it and continued writing in it for a couple years after, until the pages ran out some time in 1946. From reading the journal, specifically the entries written after the war ended, it became clear that he could never let go of my great-grandfathers death. His corpse had apparently been recovered the day after the war's end, and seeing it left him with a sense of unrelenting grief and sorrow. He had apparently written that he wished he had died too, so he wouldn't be alone. So after 23 years of trying to recover from the war, he eventually gave up and took his own life.
My dad doesn't remember my great-uncle, but I guess it's for the better that he was too young to remember or understand what happened.
Greetings from another Finn. These are for sure some deep national and personal scars we share. In my family it has been an absolute taboo, but the package is there as a hidden weight. The emotional toll and it's effect on both individual families and the culture is something we as a nation have a lot to do with to this day. The narrow emotional culture and long misconceptions around mental health topics as well as the protestant way of life haven't exactly made it any easier for our ancestors, and they still play a strong role in keeping these topics out of wider public conversation and inhibit collective healing.
This is truly the best YouTube channel I've ever discovered. Undoubtedly a tragic case in both scenarios. The idea that the reason for Andy B.'s survival of the Vietnam War later led to his death is deeply saddening on its own, not to mention the will and courage it took on Officer Kyle's part to try and save Andrews life in that traffic stop. I wish this story attained more attention as it really shows the extreme cases of PTSD, and the effects it can have on veterans and others.
king avocado2022-01-10 04:12:28 (edited 2022-01-10 04:12:56 )
@77777Carlo i can partially recall the part that was cut off from the video it was about a african american man who killed his girlfriend who was pregnant with his child and then shortly after he brutally gunned down a police officer. he was also heavily armed and had body armor when the incident occured. After that he was then arrested shortly after by police. That's about all i remember.
Who else wasn’t swayed or phased by the video of the interrogation? If you’re one of the jury and have full knowledge of the 3 people he killed (his girlfriend and his own child), and the officer (whose death was recorded and likely played during the trial), why would you change his sentencing just because of how he was interrogated? Looking at other interrogations, this guy was treated no different aside from having his eye wound ignored. Why show pity and remorse to a man who clearly showed absolutely none to others? The description of the officer getting shot was tragic and clearly traumatic to the woman who witnessed it. The interrogation video meanwhile wasn’t in anyway offensive or tragic in comparison. The jury consisted of idiots. “Spare him death because he was treated in the interrogation room like a criminal.”
Pets are so important for people with PTSD. Pets and friends. One of the major things that has changed about military service since WWII is that veterans no longer hang out with each other. My Grandpa was a WWII veteran, he served as an ambulance driver in Europe and saw crazy action. He never spoke about it, except to his friends who had endured the same war. They met for coffee in the same cafe every week. They hosted events at the local American Legion Hall every year. They marched in parades together, attended funerals together, fired salutes together... Those few who are still with us continue to meet even in the middle of a pandemic (hey, they've lived through worse). But that tradition stops with WWII, maybe Korea. Think of how old the servicemen are who march in your local parades. There are fewer and fewer each year with none to take their place. For whatever reason, veterans post 1950s don't have that brotherly bond my Grandpa took so much comfort in. I wish I knew why.
Anyway, I'm not saying friendship is a cure for PTSD. But like having a faithful, reliant, smiley doggo by your side, being around those who lived it with you helps heal some wounds. Prayers for all service men and women out there. Thank you for your service. 💕
From what I've seen in the comments, the mindset has shifted from what you're saying to "it's weak to rely on others for help". They can't get help because people will say that it's bullshit and they're only living off of benefits. There's no empathy for people.
Yee haw I guess2020-08-10 02:09:26 (edited 2020-08-10 02:10:42 )
His actions weren’t good, but he was scared. A way you could describe what it feels like to have PTSD (ofc there’s plenty more this is an abstract example) is like when you’re in a haunted house. Your body is on edge and you know something is going to happen, something will jump at you and you’re afraid. Once you leave, you are safe. Now imagine feeling that way all the time. You never leave the haunted house, that haunted house is the world around you. So yes, his actions weren’t right. But every person and thing around you could be a danger, and pop out. He needed help. His life is a prison.
@Flawless Sack Yeah but the flaw in the application is that PTSD doesn't turn you to murderer. cPTSD is a result of heightened situational awareness which leads to greater tension despite the normal risk being removed. PTSD doesn't control your actions, you don't simply become an out of control killer like people try to make vets out to be. You don't hallucinate and see enemy combatants in everyone like the movies. That is just not what PTSD is.
@Flawless Sack The problem is a lot of these guys making the determination are not veterans themselves so they don't really understand specifically what the disconnect between active service and being back home. There are certain symptoms which need to be addressed, but they are almost always rational results of heightened situational awareness, and not all of it is a bad thing. It's hard to explain that to someone who has spent their entire life locked onto their phone though.
@Flawless Sack One of the best ways to handle that IMO is to take pride in that. Consider most of the public has zero awareness and never knows when they run into danger until it is too late. As a veteran, your heightened awareness protects you from danger. While you may get a scare, learn to realize your scare is your training kicking in. The hormones that trigger fear are also the same that cause happiness. Wither it is fear or happiness is entirely dependent on how you consciously perceive that feeling. Once you get that mind over matter mindset, you will feel a lot more secure.
Having seen the original, unedited dashcam footage before, and seeing what this video was about, I wasn’t sure I wanted to rehear the horrific screams of the cop as he’s being shot to death, so thank you for editing that part out.
More importantly, thank you for providing perspective on what might have drove Andy B to commit such a heinous, and apparently spontaneous, act. While of course not justifying his actions, it does provide insight into how somebody could commit such an act, so hopefully we can try to prevent them from happening in the future.
I actually skipped that part because I did not want to watch it again, and I have watched some bad stuff. It is among the worst I have seen. I'm glad that he edited it out but I still skipped it.. jeez man
I haven’t seen this before, but I had to mute if after I heard how afraid the young cop seemed and knowing those were his last moments. I’m so glad he edited it out, but my limit was well before. It’s such a tragedy :(
I'm so glad I haven't seen that full video and that JCS didn't include it. Even the clip it did show was pretty upsetting hearing the fear in his voice shouting at Andrew. So sad to think about his family :(
It’s such a shame but every time there’s a Situation like this, all I can think is, had he been black, I’m 100% sure that officer would still be alive. Smfhhhh
Video is more convincing to people when they already know the information because when it comes to emotion, human beings are still a little primitive in that area.
Wow. The investigators for the cop killer said "Fuck it. Idc if I get demoted, we're not giving him medical attention and we're gonna talk all the shit!" No fucks to give. It was worth it.
It may not have been. It all depends on his time in prison, if it's terrible then it was worth it. If he finds peace, then he'd have been better off dead
I believe Andy badly wanted to die and kill himself but can't because he don't want his parents to suffer the same pain of losing a son again. He just lived and was literally waiting when he'll die. A part of him died when he returned from Vietnam and every other fight. When his siblings die, a huge part of him died too. All the trauma that he has to face every single day is slowly killing him already. So he doesn't see the point of killing himself because he's already dead inside.
When you can save a country and a lot of people but can't save yourself afterwards. 💔
We've spent trillions of dollars on optimizing warfare, yet we've completely forgotten about the men and women that actually defended our countries. Too bad there is no profit in helping vets
Why did you spend that money in the first place? The USA hasn't won any of the wars that it got involved with or started under false pretexts. I honestly don't understand this need that Americans have to protect themselves. who are you protecting yourselves from? can you not see that you are causing pain and suffering not only in the war zones, but also in the US? Millions of people dead...millions displaced...millions in pain... and for what? What did you actually achieve? apart from the Vietnam war when people were dragged in, your soldiers knew what they were signing up for! They are not victims! Victims are those civilians killed by them while fighting for a government that only cares about putting money in donors' pockets! stop going to war! use that money for education, social care, housing, etc.
If taxpayers are not aware that the responsibility lies with them, then this will continue.
@O.G. Also, if there weren't enough volunteers in the US military then they would probably force people to join by doing a draft.
BTW, I agree with much of what you said. It would be nice if we could put all the money dumped into the military complex to better use.
I always here people talking about people fighting to defend our freedom but I struggle to see how the Iraq war had anything to do with defending our freedom. I also feel as though "freedom" is an illusion. I can't even buy ecigs or menthol cigarettes in my state ffs.
@the mischief Every war we've fought in the last 100 years has been for Israel. Get out of here with your two decade old cold ass takes. "war for oil", please.
Haha what do you expect? Like America is a decent country. Health insurance, more homeless people then europe had in the last 25 years, racism, gun laws, Trump as president, etc. Why do Americans think they have a decent country?
@Don Dotta In South Korea we love America, they helped us from the POS invasion of the North and China. I like how certain types of Americans leave us out though....like it doesn't fit their agenda or something. I know some people from Estonia really love the US as well and speaking of Vietnam they hate China now and I've had a lot of conversations about how they wished the US had done for them what happened for South Korea given the state of Vietnam over the last 50+ years and how we have flourished. People see this so when we see some off Americans acting like this isn't a good thing it makes you very off-putting just saying.
I noticed too that East Germany still hasn't caught up with West Germany and I study in different countries people noticed the difference between how US runs and how other big powers run things and everyone would rather have US as ally.
@O.G. It's weird to see all this about the US, but nobody ever says this shit about Brittannia, which did all the exact same stuff, to a greater degree (they actually went out and conquered their neighbors) and for far, far longer. See also the USSR, China, Italy, Spain, France, Mongolia, the Danes.... Almost like maintaining a large military and fighting with people who aren't your people is completely normal and has been done by basically every culture ever throughout history.
Is it because after doing it for several hundred years they finally stopped when several of their colonies kicked their ass in a relatively short period? If so, recognize that the US is still too young to have reached that point, and will likely take longer on account of having no colonies to do all that nasty rebellion crap.
@Patrick Harrington oh, trust me, we do criticise other empires for their warmongering (this criticism is especially prominent in those empires' former colonies). The US is usually centre-stage these days because it's doing all the classic empire bullshit right now, and on a large scale. Plus it acts all high and mighty about it.
Loyd should never have been brought in breathing, the fact that this mass murderer still lives says everything you need to know about today's day and age. So much like the namesake of this video, I can't really wait to get the fuck outta this place either.
Wait how have I not seen this one?! I’ve watched every other video more then once. Idk how I missed this one! Yayyy I have a new one to watch at least!!! Fuck yea
The Markeith Loyd story enraged me even more. Fools like that are lucky cruel and unusual punishment isn’t permitted. Glad nobody took a fall for blinding that bum.
I worked at the Veteran's Service office for several years (i'm also a vet, if that matters). Vietnam vets got the absolute shortest end of the stick. I couldn't believe how they were treated. It disgusted me.
Nah I aint down with treating anyone like that and believe me I have the togh on crime stance but I'm also the innocent until proven guilty and according to the Constitution that man is innocent till proven guilty, so in a sense they are treating an innocent person like that.
One of my Father’s friends’s father was a Taiwanese immigrant who served in Vietnam. Last summer he wanted to talk about his experiences just to let it off of his shoulders but the very mention of the word brought him to tears. From what my Father told me, he never even spoke a word, he just cried
okay everyone talking about poor Andrew but the dash cam footage made me so emotional about the cop's death?
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Rose Dallas2020-08-06 05:06:26 (edited 2020-08-06 05:09:03 )
PTSD sucks, man. I keep seeing people calling BS on stories about a sudden noise causing a breakdown... that's really how it is. Mine was the result of assault, so being touched by men I didn't know would set me off, even if it was just a handshake.
I was hosting a small party and a drunk male acquaintance hugged me from behind and thanked me for being a great host. He was a small gay Filipino guy, not even a threat whatsoever.
You know what I did? Ran upstairs sobbing and hid in my room. I was inconsolable and immediately I was mentally at the scene of the assault.
It's horrible. Suddenly your mind just snaps and you're a wild animal. Everything that makes you, well, you, is gone.
Does being small, gay, and Filipino somehow make him less threatening? What does being Filipino have to do with his threat level anyway...try not to make such broad (and ignorant) assumptions based solely on physical appearance and race. Sorry you got assaulted, btw.
Yabadabonboo "Just being shot" what a pefect way to sum up the mental and physical strain of doing a combat deployment for 9 months. Getting shot, seeing other soldiers get shot, shooting back and stopping the threat then doing the first aid and calling medevacs yada yada
Charles E Bish you're probably older than me, but what you doing with your life rn? Online school in the your parents crib? Or did you just work at a subway thats shut down
PTSD sucks. Nobody understands unless they experience it. Sound, smells, actually any of the five senses trigger it. Find someone to talk to. Someone that listens. Unbiased person that you can talk to.
PTSD sucks. Nobody understands unless they experience it. Sound, smells, actually any of the five senses trigger it. Find someone to talk to. Someone that listens. Unbiased person that you can talk to.
@Billy Bill why do you think you need to pit two different traumas against each other & make a contest out of it? The message I got from this video was not "let's only praise war veterans even when they kill ppl" but more like "let's not minimize the trauma someone goes through because if we do, chances are they won't get help and spiral down a bad path." Which you are missing that point, and minimizing the op's trauma bc it wasn't caused from Vietnam or guns.
The fight or flight mode comes out and you cannot control your actions. It’s a different part taking over. And it’s like your brain going through the event again and again.
U kidding me the cops beat the ever loving crap out this guy....what's the mystery? Would u have done something different? Really...technically that would make u a sociopath a person without feelings...
How come you don't use alternative video sharing sites like Odysee? (It lets you sync your YouTube channel with little effort)
Just sucks to see how YouTube treats its creators and how creators continue to take the abuse. No one should be forced to self censor in order to keep their content up to the public.
@tropezando we're in a world where we can't identify a "good" or "bad" guy by uniform anymore. Andy was technically a man of uniform, trained to murder. He did his job so well, it soon distorted his sense of reality and what is considered justice. This video is a crime where cops kill or are killed, and displays how the murder is completely senseless.
Blue Moon Fine dude. Defend a murderer. You can do whatever you’d like. I choose to believe that, after having a knee pressed against his neck for eight minutes straight, he wasn’t able to get enough air and suffocated. I don’t think I need much more proof than the video showing him die. The original autopsy was done by the same man who said Epstein committed suicide, so I’m a little inclined to believe the independent autopsy. You can choose to lick a cops boots and I can choose to use basic logic. I myself am not interested in trying to make the crimes of a murderer less sickening. I am NOT interested in arguing about this.
@Myrrhee the independent medical examiner for Floyd is the same one that did Epsteins autopsy and said he killed himself..... do with that info, what you will. Many, many, many people don't believe Epstein killed himself with a bed sheet.
George Floyd also tested positive for covid in April and had a severe heart condition. Being high on fentonyl and meth , having possible lung damage from covid, stuggling with officers, along with a knee on the neck all contribute to his death. Tony Timpa was a similar case, where the officers laugh,on camera, at the man they're strangling.
We got embarrassed in Vietnam and embarrassed in Afghanistan, while tens of thousands of Americans and millions of innocent civilians died. We must all work to ensure the lessons learned from this are heeded..
wtf his execution happened in 2015, it would be expected that they would have understand more about PTSD in 2015 and he was a veteran and old, they should have spared his life
after this finished i had tears in my eyes and goose bumps, i sat in silence for a few minutes getting my head around what id seen and felt. I like how that this video in how it has been made is its self a great example of the power of video. Love this channel
Knowing what I know about mental illness, its so obvious Andy needed so much more help than he was offered. The mental health system is broken nearly to a point beyond saving, especially for trauma patients. I've seen my mom get the short end of the mental health treatment stick more times than I can count. Andy's final words broke my heart, I haven't cried in a while but this got me.
I know that Vietnam war compilation with that song for the intro was mean to show how ignorance we are about Vietnam war but damn those compilation are beautiful. Your editor probably have fun editing it.
My dad passed when I was 12. He was the nicest, happy go lucky guy u could ever hope to meet. But the way his face would change any time me or my brothers would ask him about Vietnam even at such a young I knew he must’ve seen some truly horrific things over there as a paratrooper. I miss u dad. U will always be my hero.
@bbgamegod PNW yea i found his jump suit when I was like 14 and I wore that thing til the patches were coming off. My mom had to take it away and lock it up just to preserve it.
@Youtube Comment my grandpa was a medic in the Korean War, now he wasn't in Korea but anyone that had had get major surgery that couldn't get combat med. So my pops spent his time drinking, fighting former nazis, and patching up fallen brothers. It's so crazy to me how different every soilders experience was
I missed this video when it came out. Both the veteran almost begging to be shot and the brave police officer who refused to injure the veteran unless necessary - its heartbreaking. Both were such good people, made enemies by the cruelty of man and the harsh nature of war.
I understand the system failed Andy B and he needed help regarding PTSD, but damn he killed a 22 yr old kid in cold blood. Literally says “die fucker” as he stands over the officer that’s screaming in pain and shoots him in the head. Just thought I’d see more people sympathizing with the officer. And I’m not even a fan of cops!
As a veteran, we lost 48 in 2005. Years later after my discharge, and long and yet unfinished path to recovery, I was expelled and banned from a university for threatening another student during a debate in a Criminal Justice course on lethal force. The topic was in relation to a veteran who forced a suicide by police. Unbeknownst to me, the student I was debating with was distantly related to this veteran. This student also was unaware that I was not only a veteran with combat experience, but a veteran who's war experience was a year long sustained slog of daily multiple incoming barrages of mortar fire, so many small arms fire exchanges I lost count, and seeing very young Marines, my friends or as I call them to this day, my brothers, who as a Corpsman remained with them in their final moments, as the Marines around be focused on the opposing force, I stopped firing, once a casualty was sustained, and tried to save their life, or if the dice were not in the Marine's or my favor, work on them, and other casualties, until they went to whatever happens to our consciousness after our death. I firmly believe, if an officer is confronted by s veteran, or anyone who obviously is a threat to the officer's life, or anyone's life, that the officer should give that veteran what they psychologically are seeking, a violent warrior's death. The officer should not be asked to risk their life to save someone who's willing to threaten or actually end another's life to obtain their warrior's death. The student's argument was that police should shoot to wound or disable a veteran in a similar scenario to disregard the officer's safety as that's what they signed up for. A pretty passionate debate ensued, that evolved into an heated argument and I did, now in hindsight regrettably, indicate a threat towards that individual of physical violence by the end of incident. That said I still stand by my stance though. If a veteran, like myself and the veteran shown in this video, have PTSD so severely that the "rock bottom" they hit is seeking suicide by police, the police should not hesitate to provide that warrior's death they're seeking. I'm now 100% disabled as per the VA, and I had to hit rock bottom before I sought help. Thankfully my rock bottom was planning and nearly executing my own suicide. I watched to many good men die, pulled the trigger to kill too many times, to force someone else into a position to end mine is unjustly burdening someone else with the same demons I struggle with now. I got the help I needed, but I only accepted help after my moment at rock bottom. According to the stories of other veterans of recent wars, and the Vietnam War, that's usually what it takes before we'll seek help. A vet center therapist saved my life, because I raised my end up to her from my own personal hell, and asked for help. I am now a stay at home dad of three, a coach, and Scout leader. No amount of medals on a "war heroes" chest should justify that individual endangering the life of someone else. They need help, they can be helped, but if they choose a path that they selfishly force a police officer to end theirs by threat of death to that officer, and if the Vet is successful in that goal, pass on the burden of combat, and taking a life to someone else, then I would say the officer should not hesitate, grant their final request if they feel threatened. The officer shown didn't have to die. Shouldn't have been put into that position by the veteran, that was selfish on the Veteran's part, but the officer lost their life trying to save a Veteran that was sadly mentally KIA in Vietnam. The social culture/stigma of an individual seeking mental health being a weakness sure doesn't help. Very complex societal issue, but if an officer of the law's life is truly threatened, they should not hesitate.
my family name is on the wall. this ones rough. im wondering how vets could still protect America, as in, Chicago for example... or wherever the top of the murder rate may be. Cartels along the southern border. places like that. maybe give all vets a home on the borders. yes, even canada, they've got chinese troops.
I really feel so bad for the army men that have served a country that doesn’t give 1 crap abt them or their mental state of mind the years following their service. There should be so much more mental help/check ups throughout their years and before they exit into society. America has let its citizens down in some of the worst ways possible over these centuries. They throw all the accountability on the war veteran and take non for themselves. Must be nice.
So back then the mental health systems in the military were god awful. Nowadays mental health checkups are encouraged but not mandatory unless there is an incident. Other than that, mental healthcare is optional for service members. Unfortunately, most don’t seek help. Even worse, some do but receive no help. Another reason why some do not seek help is the fear that a negative mental health diagnosis will lead to them being discharged or treated differently because of some limitations that may be in the work place due to mental health treatment.
I was in the USAF and I encountered all of these situations. But I have also encountered people who did indeed receive real help from mental health services. It depends on the patient and the provider.
That pregnant girl was "joking" on camera but that was her testimony, she knew he was going to kill her... Whatever happened before that video, she knew and named her killer 😓
My Grandfather was a veteran of the Vietnam War as were his twin brothers, my great uncles did not make it home alive. The horrors they and Andy B have seen will never truly be understood by those who were not there.
Kyle Dinkheller did not deserve to lose his life and much respect for how long he withheld his shots but the government could have done better by Andy B and many other veterans, it's sad to see it end this way for both parties involved. I hope they found peace because this world is terrible.
Honestly I don't even understand why life in prison is not considered the highest punishment. Death is the easy way out compared to spending all the decades of your remaining life locked inside a box.
The way he ducks and weaves is really discrepant from what you see in movies where it's either the cold precision of a swat/spec ops team, or a hunkered down soldier behind cover. It definitely comes across as a man who learned how to be a one man army battling through a jungle.
Countless firefights and live combat probably wired those movements and reactions into his entire being, Vietnam vets probably think about what they did every single day still. You can never forget certain things and sometimes they leave a permanent stain on your soul, most were 19-20 years old.
@ash hydra you can, it's for people the start of adulthood, they're usually experiencing all the new perks of being of age. You also discover much more about yourself at these ages as you start to explore where you want to go in life etc.
This isn't the case for everybody, but it's fair to say for most people they're partying, getting drunk, sleeping around and generally having a good time.
I couldn't imagine how would've changed me if I was recruited at 18 like these Vietnam vets. I had some testing times in my life at this age and it definitely changed me, so to imagine the type of trauma a person in war, let alone a person who has just come of age. It's unfathomable.
Do these cops not realize they're being recorded? I get they're pissed off but it's crazy they're so brash on saying these things the way they did on camera...
I think most of the commenters forgot the message shown in this video that is, "the impact of audio visuals on the decision making capabilities even of the jury on punishment decisions".
The way her eyes were I feel like she was signaling for help but couldn't directly say that knowing him? That's the vibes I got with the eyes she was making towards him. I rewatched that part multiple times.
@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew yeah I agree, at first it seemed like a joke but the more she talked, the more serious she looked. Unfortunately we won't ever really know for sure.
This was just a horrible accident I dont feel he is responsible. My PTSD is different but still took counseling both in patient and out patient. I still tell myself things like this is just my brain not me.
Every, single, time. I'm so thoroughly impressed by the quality of stuff on this channel. Just that intro alone wouldn't seem out of place in a big budget Hollywood film. Keep up the excellent work, and I can only say I wish I could give you some sort of major award.
@George R.Tard. Martin Well 3 were medical emergency and one Air Force veteran was shot by a cop. It’s interesting I can induce certain emotions by limiting how much info I give you
I hate these type of things it shows you how biased our legal system is, they didn’t take into account a Vietnam veterans mental instability, Someone who fought for our freedom, and he was given the death penalty. Where as some evil man who killed his pregnant girlfriend then killed a police officer in cold blood, someone who was sane, and escaped capital punishment. It’s very sad
absolutely insane. he’s considered 100% disabled, been to war, has severe PTSD, and reacted how he’s used to react to someone else with a weapon. HOW did he get the death sentence.....
Because he murdered one of his betters. The idea that "all men are created equal" is a noble mindset and something to continually aspire to, but let's face it, it's never been consistently applied. For the most part: Rich/Influential > Police > Veterans > Plebs.
I know it's cruel but he wanted death and I'm happy they gave him what he wanted. Imagine him living life in a cage when he fought a war for his country and lost so many brothers along the way. I'm happy he is finally at ease.
@A Dark Gothic Forest what? He pulled him over for going over 90, already putting peoples lives in danger, wasn't aggressive until this guy charged him, didn't shoot when he 100% could have for damm near 20 seconds, then got savagely murdered for trying to protect the lives of innocent people. Any punishment other than death would not be just.
The cop didn’t show any aggression towards him besides a routine traffic stop. Had the cop pulled a gun on him at the beginning of the encounter that would make sense but he started the aggression himself. There are many thousands with PTSD who don’t ruin other people’s lives, let alone murder in cold blood. He deserves everything he got.
@Jim Well this was in the 1990s so there probably wouldn't be gun regulations on mentally disabled people. But this shit is the reason why we really do need more focus on mental health rather than just banning guns in general. You can always ban a gun but a mentally disabled person can always use other weapon to kill(not saying that all mentally disable want to kill). It's best to focus on their health rather than the weapon they used but since our government is seriously useless that's most likely wont happen.
@Adam N ptsd is not a one size fits all disease. Some return just fine others are a slobbering mess never to be a human being again. In this case it was clear as day that the man met conditions to be criminally insane and should never have been handed the death penalty. It says much about America’s justice system where you continue to slaughter those who in any other western nation would have been put in a mental institution.
@A Dark Gothic Forest can't believe you called this cop a pig. It shows a clear lack of critical thinking and intellect. This cop was doing his job and enforcing the law in a responsible manner. Speeding is a serious issue. Additionally the video demonstrates why cops need to be more assertive and at times use self defense or deadly force. This cop didn't take action to prevent Andy from reentering his truck, a fatal mistake. The other mistake was not taking action sooner once Andy was in the car.
@Jacob Lehn the vet put his life on the line for this country. He clearly wasn't mentally stable and how is speeding a little that big of a deal? The autobahn in Germany has no speed limits and the least accidents. You're reaching with the speeding puting people at danger theory
@Aaron Abele do you show the same sympathy when cops constantly spray and prey bullets, abuse their powers on the general public? Do you hold the same remorse when cops open fire at people unarmed just fleeing? I doubt it
@A Dark Gothic Forest yeahhh except the autobahn does have speed limits in most places and the process to get a license in Germany is extraordinary difficult in terms of schooling and money. Also breaking the law is breaking the law. Youre forgetting g about the part where he pulled a gun on the officer too
@A Dark Gothic Forest that comment has nothing to do with what I said. You're completely ignoring my point. You're taking a completely different situation, exaggerating beyond belief, and trying to somehow apply it here. I disagree with the veteran's death sentence but that doesn't mean I think the cop did anything wrong, as I said before he should've been more proactive.
@A Dark Gothic Forest Calling him a pig for doing his job shows how immature and biased you are. He was clearly trying to do his job to stop Andy from driving dangerously. Also, your point about flashbacks is nonsense. Are the police supposed to be able to read minds or something? His mistake was waiting too long to shoot when Andy was a clear lethal threat.
Thats the idea of this whole video, video can convince the judge to put him in death sentence while story may put or doesn't put him in death sentence. That line at 23:18 until 23:26 is the whole reason this video exist.
It was the first to be reported at such a high degree in the US. Citizens could watch the events as they unfolded, from their couch. That’s partly why there was so much pushback against the war in the US.
Ok so how did that one guy who was clinically insane in the other jcs video get sentenced to life in a psychiatric hospital after killing a man for literally no reason. But this man who clearly had mental problems as well did basically the same thing but he gets death. Somethings wrong with our court system.
The rookie cop should've let the case be after his initial confrontation with Andy. The symptoms of his delirium combined with him shouting he was a Nam veteran were so blatant an indication the situation was about to get unstable he should have admit it wasn't worth the trouble for a speeding ticket. He already had his information too. It was a very regrettable mistake that I assume can be attributed to a combination of inexperience and the need to prove himself.
seeing a homeless veteran on the road today really didnt help how i feel. horrible how this country treats those who've risk their lives for the privileged...
Then remember the German soldiers in both world wars. They were going through hell, fought in the biggest battles in the history of humanity, we’re forced to do genocides and massacres especially against children to prevent the next generation of Slavic people. And after the war they got nothing. No help. No memorials. They were even hunted by the police and drank themselves to death. No country treated it’s soldiers as bad as Germany did.
And yes the things they did were extremely bad but they still sacrificed or would sacrifice their lives for their country and their families, otherwise the government had treated them like traitors.
It's kind of hard to have sympathy for the guy when he murdered a pregnant woman in cold blood and unloaded on a cop. It's still police brutality though. The issue is that the brutality doesn't stop with cop killers.
Men and women that fight for our freedom in war.. that have killed and seen dead bodies… shouldn’t just be THROWN back into society like it’s normal. I’ve personally seen family members come back from war a completely different person.. lifeless almost.. very meek. It’s heartbreaking how little the country seems to care for our soldiers.
Shook me up how he was able to apologize. He really wasnt a bad man.. just a victim of war who lost his sanity. Idk its controversial to think this over. But in my heart i want to believe he was a good person destroyed by war.
@Christian Stuber It means that he is happy to be dying, so that he could leave this life. "This place" means his life, and he is happy to be leaving it. It's powerful because he basically refers to something as complex as life, as a place; such as a house or a country showing heavy disdain. He was unhappy with the way life had treated him. Greetings from America
Jacob Eberlein the officer he killed had a toddler. The full video is incredibly incredibly disturbing. He also shot him in the knees and legs to make him suffer and then in the head/eye. He tortured the man and you can hear him begging for his life.
ITHEREONETHATHASNT how so explain this logic sense a black guy would’ve been dead stepping out of the car and just approaching him how he did that black mans smoked you and I know that. Explain this comment in actually gonna try to read to understand the logic of it. Go!?????
ITHEREONETHATHASNT if that’s what you surmised from this video I feel sorry for your lack of critical thinking abilities. The actual point of the video went completely over your head
It's honestly awful that it's 2021 and when someone says Vietnam I think of a fiery smoking jungle and some dumb song from the 60s. Definitely my problem but still a shame
youtube asked me to verify that i wanted to watch this video, since it has been flagged by several people for being inappropriate.. Im happy that they give you the option, instead of just taking the video down..
The video of the wife asking for someone to help her was chilling. She must have gone through so much. May her and her baby's beautiful souls rest in peace
Seriously. What's tragic is how often those are played up for jokes & get ignored. For every video like that where someone in danger is 'just a joke' there are ones like this where that wife was literally making a cry for help but masking it as she was sitting next to her future killer.
@Alex Roy Look up the Gulf of Tonkin incident. US navy staged a false flag and attacked North Vietnamese ships in the Gulf of Tonkin. That is what the NSA report said in 2005.
@Alex Roy To the American public, it was told that the goal was to prevent the spread of the communist ideology in south-east Asia. There was a "domino theory" in the United States during the Cold War, which held the belief that if Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia fall to communism, it'll spread further to the neighboring countries, such as Thailand, and further on from there. It was believed that the United States had to support the capitalist southern Republic of Vietnam against the communist northern Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Viet Cong to prevent this spread, not just with the training and equipment they were already giving, but with troops in combat.
As for money, who knows what happens behind closed doors between businessmen and politicians? The war industry always benefits from conflict, by selling whatever the militaries need.
PTSD is the only justice countries get out of the USA deciding to attack them Yet while it's not the soldiers falt, nor of course the other country's fault. The people at fault keeps living wealthiethly happy
Well America, you've created warriors to blanket what you didn't want to see. The problem is, they were just humans, too fragile, physically unable to contain all that darkness within themselves. May God have mercy on your souls.
Thing is, regardless of how one feels about a person and their actions, there are legal avenues specifically to take away the burden of revenge and vigilante justice. Attorneys must defend people who are guilty of heinous crimes on the regular, surgeons operate on such people all whilst keeping their moral obligation in mind. Yet, when it comes to law enforcement, who deal with these situations DAILY, can not keep their hands to themselves when exercising their duties. Especially when harm is inflicted to one of their own, but fuck it when one of their own inflicts harm (whether theoretically justifiable or not under other circumstances) to another. And that is why it's wrong, plain and simple. Because even though just about anyone would say 'Fuck that guy, he can rot' they do not get to decide the repercussions for perpetrators or suspects, nor assert their own punishment.
Vietnam, the first and last war where citizens got a clearer vision of the horrors of war. As the US learned its lesson well here, and restricted press access in the Gulf War and every war thereafter. Be honest? Lose your press pass!
Man what the hell. I know he's a monster and kills in cold blood but just for the sake of interrogation I would have gave that man medical aid. Trying to build any trust, after four minutes common it was obvious the strategy was failing
It has nothing to do with interrogation tactics. It's just typical racist US cop scum. Markeith Loyd is truly an abhorrent man, and he deserves tremendous punishment, but dealing out punishment simply isn't the police's fault.
I don’t understand what these two stories had to do with each other. Also why was mar Keith’s hair long in court but short when he was being interrogated?
Going from feeling sick with sadness over Officer Kyle's death to hearing Andrew's last statement was an emotional rollercoaster that just gutted me. I'm so sorry we as a society failed both of these men..
Side note: Editing was just excellent. The choice to add the footage mentioned at the beginning of the video was absolutely more impactful than if it was immediately released. Applause to you!
whats even more crazy about youtube is that they allow for educational content right? Which majority can agree it is. And all of this information is public for the most part. Yet they censore and say you cant have this content because its violent. Yes chairman board of Youtube, criminal psychology can get violent, but it is also educational to those wanting to get into a career. So...why?
Last video in this epic journey starting with "the legend of Jeff". Everyone watching is now united in a multi day binge that will likely tip the FBI off for suspicious behavior. Farewell friends, we are all connected.
Man what a vid, like not so crazy long, has a very good theme with the video stuff, actual soundtrack for once in a JCS vid... Yet the least watched of all of them... Damn YouTube, just censoring good vids I see...
The other JCS vids are crazy good too of course, love every single one of them
It’s strange how hopeful and heartbreaking the phrase “I’m glad to be getting out of this place” is. His mind, and by extension life was hell. I don’t give him sympathy, but I understand why he could blow up and shoot an officer over nothing. Maybe he could’ve been rehabilitated, or have been safe to society if he received a lesser sentence, but he sounds remorseful and relieved for his life to finally end. Markeith though, I don’t see how his treatment should be a mitigating factor in a trial for his actions committed well before his arrest. The officers should have faced legal consequences in a separate trial. Sounded like the jury was apologizing for the actions of the police with their verdict.
Completely agree. His treatment during his arrest should have been a completely seperate case cause it had nothing at all to do with his charges or his guilt in the deliberate cold blooded killing of two women and his own unborn child. Which is what his trial was about. That was like the courts saying 'fuck justice, we'll let a murderer get off easy to teach the cops a lesson'. It's messed up.
Sheechiibii Fox everything is used for or against him in the court of law. It’s not just a random right the cops say, it’s true. The detectives dropped the ball when they let there emotions get in the way. If they just had conducted a unbiased interrogation and, maybe let him have gotten medical treatment before doing so. Then the jury would have seen that all the rotten unsympathetic attitude he was showing came from himself and not the deserving crap he went through.
It would probably be very difficult to understand the mind of a person living with PTSD. They have to live everday with the things they have seen. You would probably look for release from that kind of fear and pain everyday even at the cost of another.
@AgeDrain I've never heard cops say that. Just the usual 'anything you say can be used against you in court' but if that is a thing I still dissagree. Im aware that the outcome is a result of the current system. I just dissagree with this method of never charging or punishing cops who break the law. Instead lessening the sentance of a ruthless killer as if that is in any way just at all. In this case everyone who did wrong got away with it. And if that is by design then it's not a part of any system that can rightfully call itself 'justice' imo.
@Sheechiibii Fox there are so many variables I don't think you're considering, plus police do get punished for their misadventures (lack of a better word). You also have to realise that cops are going to stick up for each other, even through times when they're wrong.
In the UK, there's a higher standard for finding doctors or nurses guilty of misconduct in their job. Obviously these jobs differ, but they're both public services (in the UK at least) meaning their job is to protect/look after civilians. Basically, if you were to hold them to the same threshold as a civilian you're opening the flood gates for case after case, effectively making it impossible for them to perform their job, avoiding any risk of making a mistake and being sued heavily for it. I know doctors in the US are extra careful. So what I'm saying is, sometimes cops have to perform tasks that normal civilians wouldn't be capable of doing, due to training and experience, plus with a high pressured situation, the decision made at the time can feel like the right one, even if in hindsight it seems wrong.
There were other things you didn't consider, but I'm on my phone and it's difficult to read your comment without deleting everything I just put, haha. I hope this made sense.
@Lujan KLIPS I don't dissagree with police being held to a different standard at all, but there's a difference between, for example, letting cops away with accidental injury of civilians in the line of duty (similar to not blaming surgeons for cutting you open), and letting them away with deliberately beating/torturing suspects as though that's just a misadventure. That's not standard practice, I'm pretty sure that is against the law even for cops.
Besides, how does any of that mean that a completely seperate crime should be impacted by it? The police brutality had no impact on the murder whatsoever, it took place well after the victims had been murdered. Why should justice not fully be served for that crime?
I just started the video and since it asked me if I really wanted to watch it, now I'm scared to watch it. Can someone just tell me what it shows that might disturb me? Thank you!
Potentially sensitive topics covered: Vietnam live footage and the impact the media had on the public - no graphic content shown, PTSD after returning home, suicide and death, mania, veteran vs deputy gun fight. Discussion about mental illnesses related to crimes committed.
Three weeks later and Im back, and still shedding a tear.
"I am proud to have been able to walk point for my comrades, and pray that they do not have to do the same. Im glad to be getting out of this place."
Even when facing death, as he did numerous times Im sure, he still knew that what he did for his fellow soldiers in that war was a good thing and Im damn proud of him to be able to still hold that conviction. A real fucking hero. Even if Vietnam was unjustified, I cant take anything away from the people who served there. May you rest easy Andy, you didnt deserve what happened to you, and neither did all of those young men.
And...Andy understood that Kyle didn't deserve it either. Needs to be said. What he did to Kyle is not ok. It is important to remember that. ... It would be a nightmare to face this guy in combat as a traffic cop. ... this sucks for everyone. I hope the dog got a fair shake.
Those poor bastards, half the troops in nam we're the poor and uneducated thrown through a fast 8 week boot/training and shipped off. McNamara's 100,000 (project 100,000) is what it was called in case anyone's looking for videos to check out
And here in lies a main issue with police training. De-escalation . You see a man get out of his truck, he is agitated and acting in an abnormal way, you don't SHOUT at him because that is how you escalate the situation with a person who is obviously not mentally well.
Your videos are excellent! Our vets damaged in war, struggling with PTSD and other seen and unseen injuries deserve the support of our nation. That veteran should’ve gotten better help...help that he deserved. It’s sad to hear that he was relieved to be executed and to no longer have to fight an endless mental war brought on by trauma and pain.
My grandpa died in Vietnam war serving the United states. My wife's grandfather is a retired USA Vietnam veteran. He went hunting one morning with his Vietnam vet vest. Got beat up by 4 white guys because he was Asian and he had Vietnam vet on his vest. He was 60.
It's not eerie to me. She made the same mistake that alot of women make. Ignoring red flags and messing with thugs. Every time I warn my female peers about dudes like him, they never listen and they get hurt. Somebody probably told her that he was no good and she didn't listen until it was too late.
It’s obvious the poor girl had a horrible gut feeling and pushed it away. Her talking about it jokingly like she was is probably the only way she could cope with the gnawing terror she truly felt inside about him. Sadly a lot of people do this and its 99% of the time a correct feeling
@Doppelganger D think about the way you word your comments then. I don't have the time or energy to explain why I had an issue with your comment & I don't think you care anyway. I never said anything about social justice or being an "sjw" whatever that's supposed to mean. bye
yall forgot she’s pregnant with his kid. it’s not that easy to just walk away. if she merely relies on her gut feeling and leaves him she’d be a single mother in the hood. yes she made the mistake of not trusting her intuition, but a lot easier said than done, all things considered.
@Matthew McDonough They're talking about the other guy, the one who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the female police officer who attempted to arrest him later on.
@Sicknificant FGC ugh. I could explain why the victim blaming comments bother me but I don't wanna spend my energy arguing about it with people who probably won't even try to listen to another perspective. that's why I said "bye" but even though you apparently read that, you still felt the need to tell me to "gtfo." not sure what you're trying to accomplish here
What's more disturbing is that people defend scumbags and murderers who dis nothing good for society like Lloyd, and yet a veteran get sentenced to death.
Damn… smh. These are like mini documentaries. Unlike the other studies there is no right or wrong in this scenario. PTSD is real, & no one wins when it comes to war & those who fight them
The endless question that never has an answer; how do we deal with all these men, damaged by war and put them back together in a way that works in society..
Well yea the police were biased against him lmao; he smoked a cop. I don't see any problem with what the did beside failing to beat him to death in the first place
Funny how this is the only video that got this restricted, tackling American taboo subjects like gun violence, Vietnam war and citizen/police relationship.
YESS LIKE FUCK I WNANA PAY U I’ve learned so much about the human mind as if school never existed like wtf now that my mind is opened I can spot anything anyone trying to psychologically play me I HAVE U NOW BITCH is how I been feeling after coming across this page 😭😭😂
Just pure informational content given to you without someone benefitting from it financially. Many of those youtube creators who MADE you believe that they are poor, or struggling, ect are actually just content grifters who view their channel as a money making machine. Stop acting like you own anyone anything. You don't.
You’re on YouTube you realize ? You can’t believe you are watching it for free - because why? The value ? There are some amazing content creators on YouTube - and they are all free. That’s just a strange statement.
@Joey McAllister Of course there is plenty of other people on youtube, and many of them provides free content which I appreciatie. You don’t HAVE to do anything, but my question was from my perspective. I have watched all videos on this channel and want more. It takes time, energy and knowledge for these videos to be made and money is the reason people have roof over their head. Btw, isn’t there plenty of weird comments on youtube?
@Cashandra Doe fuck that i duno guy i luv the way u type queen but fr omfg he explains everything so well nd its so interesting to me!!! alwayz been interested in how the mind works but nothing haz been as engaging as his content
@Aidyn Lewis who put in the effort tho what’s his name. I went to the narrators channel in one of his comments he said all he does is read the scripts who writes them
@sell god Xid well i mean the writer along with the editor put in the effort i suppose.
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I'll never understand people who would defend a person like Lloyd. He's still alive, blind or not, its more than he deserves. The pathetic people on that jury are part of the problem with the world today.
No one is really defending Loyd's actions. What he did was despicable. He was afforded life in prison over the death penalty for the brutality of his treatment by the police both during and after arrest. They can state what they want about the reason they beat him at time of arrest but to then outwardly treat him as they did after is why Loyd was spared. The jury agrees Loyd deserves punishment and also punishment isn't to be inflicted in an inhumane way that goes against basic rights set forth by the law of our country and is without exception. If the police had treated him with composed apathy and not reduced themselves to acting at Loyd's level of disrespect and disregard for human life, Loyd would have seen the death penalty. The veto of the death penalty in this case was the juries way of saying they wouldn't reward cruel and criminal behaviour from the Police but also they recognize the actions taken by Loyd required severe punishment. Thus life in prison.
I personally, love reading everyone’s comments about how they IMMEDIATELY stop, whatever they were doing to watch these videos. Hahah because I do the exact same thing!
Yeah.. I was in the middle of resuscitating a poor old woman, whilst waiting for the ambulance.. Didn't end well for her - But the silver lining is that I got to watch this video immediately! Always look for the positive, even in a negative situation.
This comment broke my heart. PTSD is all too real and the negligence of this country in the past century to assist those who are witnesses to and involved in such violence of war will be detested in years to come.
@TGANG 93103 He did but you have to read in-between the lines. Death for him is finally leaving the hell that Vietnam made his life into. He hasn't been there physically for years but in his mind, most likely, he was reliving it every day, especially when he wasn't on his medication. Some people, like Andy, even though they are with us physically died emotionally in those jungles. "I'm glad to be getting out of this place." means everything.
know guys that have night terrors every time they sleep, cant wake em up without them coming at you. Best you can do is be there for them and try and get them the help they deserve.
@Mahar Ammar its not those who serve that are corrupt. Its those in power that send them to those places. They pick up the poor and the desperate and the sadly blindly patriotic who think they are going to do good. I understand where you come from with your statement but again please don't blame the men who are ordered there. But the men who order them there. Thats where the corruption is and i agree with you it is evil and corrupt and should be stopped. But these young soldiers are also innocent pawns played by the corrupt.
@Dylan Hough im pretty sure Mohammed Ali was sent to fight in this war. They forced him, but he didnt go. He said why should i do that and kill random people i dont know? They stripped him of his boxing championship title and pretty sure they gave him jail time. He did it. They arent idiots they are grown ass men
There's something pretty real, and very candid about it. Life is a journey we all play roles in. If life is a play and we are all but actors, then it says a lot to basically announce that you've been waiting for the curtain to draw.
@Mahar Ammar ah but the grunt on the ground who is fighting for his country is not to blame for the orders he’s given especially when it’s illegal to ignore drafting. This man nobly served his country and then once it was done using him it threw him away like garbage. He is by no means to blame for that
@Johnathan Tunstill v yeah so I dont understand why people feel so bad for this guy. He was in a war, boohoo. Anyone who thinks its ok to fight innocents, and does fight them for no reason deserves to go crazy lol
@Mahar Ammar war is hell for everyone involved, and often both sides have fair share of innocents and not innocent. You could call the U.S. terrorists, but these people swept up in the fighting, led to believe that they were fighting Communist invaders to free the South (similar to how the Korean War was portrayed) are not all to blame for the actions of warmongering or otherwise greedy politicians or corrupt commanders. To my knowledge, draft dodging was not only going against common culture/potentially getting labeled a traitor etc. but those caught doing it could potentially get in big trouble (it was illegal after all IIRC), and most importantly, many of those being drafted, or volunteering had no idea what they were really getting into, or what impacts such a war would have on them. The entire beginning of this video is basically filled with examples of U.S. propaganda, and being raised in a highly anti Communist, Mccarthyist environment meant that young people were pretty likely to fall for it if they weren't forced to go anyway, so most of these people were not "fighting innocents for no reason," as some either believed that what they were doing was right, and others didn't want to go against culture and the law if they had been drafted.
Pertaining to my original statement, both sides had plenty of war crimes during this war. A lot of people fairly call the U.S. out over war crimes such as the Mai Lai massacre, and in general all the bombs being dropped, but do not forget that the VietCong would gladly burn villages of innocents to the ground and kill everyone in it if that village had contact with U.S. relief effort just to persuade the surviving local populace, or the surrounding villages to hate the U.S. Plenty of NVA/VietCong also made use of toxic/biological warfare, and wouldn't hesitate to shoot Medics or doctors. Plenty of the North Vietnamese and VietCong were undertstandably sick of occupation, and wanted their land back. Plenty of good natured people who didnt commit war crimes, and only wanted what was best for their country from the U.S. and allied nations got thrown in there too. Both sides also had examples of corrupt leadership/sadistic people in charge at a commander level (ever heard of The legendary Vietnamese "Apache" who would skin prisoners alive, cut off eyelids, fingernails, and castrate them before letting them wander to their painful death by bloodloss? Meanwhile the U.S. had commanders who were trigger happy, like Captain Ernest Medina, who was largely responsible for the hundreds of innocent who were gunned down at Mai Lai). You seem to be under the impression that this man speficically shot innocent civilians, when it seems he only fought against other combatants. It's not so simple as good guys and bad guys across a war that spanned a decade, and involved millions. Not all GIs gunned down civilians, and not all VietCong warriors were sadistic people obsessesed with skinning POWs alive. Everyone has a different story.
This specific person witnessed 14 of his colleagues die horrific deaths, and was unconscious of the insanity such events caused in him until later in his life, which was further escalated by the suicide and deaths of his siblings. That's why people feel bad. He got swept up in this cruddy war he was either lied to about, or forced to go to by law and/or expectations to serve his country, then actually lost it and ended up being sentenced to death by the very country he once believed he was serving. In the end, he seemed to realize what he had done based on his closing statement. If he could go back, he would almost undoubtedly have choosen to run away and flee from the law rather than go to Vietnam, but I doubt he really knew what the war held. Truthfully I, and many others feel bad for most everyone involved in that war. Vietnamese for being occupied and all the death they witnessed, and U.S. citizens who were drafted to fight a morally insecure, rich man's war and scarred for life.
@Noah ofcourse white people say ‘we have a different story feel bad for us’ okayyyy we know how oppressed Americans are. America fights the weak and takes advantage, it is what it id
@Mahar Ammar not everyone had Muhammed Ali's experience. Not everyone wanted to actively go against the law and risk jail, or pay huge, unaffordable fines to avoid the draft, nor did they necessarily know what they were getting into with that war. How do you know every single GI went there and killed? Some never wanted to fire their weapon. People of all races were swept with the draft too, and nobody is saying that you should feel bad for anyone. You were the one questioning why others had sympathy for the man in this specific story, so I did my best to explain.
@Noah thank you for ur insight. I definitely learned nothing and feel still don’t feel bad for them but i understand that people don’t wanna go there and shoot. This man definitely shot though
@Mahar Ammar I agree that he shot, but I also know he was definitely shot at being a point man who was commanded to advance. I haven't learned anything either, but I do thank you for your perspective.
@Dan R dont tell me i lack empathy DAN. I dont like the american military LOL and wake up, others dont either because they either tried to kill us or bomb our countries 🤔
Defense attorneys get a lot of hate for trying to get people acquitted for their crimes but that is just because the cast majority of people don't understand what defense attorneys actually do. The first biggest misconception is they can't blatantly lie if they know the truth. Their job is to get the innocent acquitted and protect the rights of the guilty so that the punishment does not exceed the culpability of the crime.
I was just telling a buddy how the military works so hard to destroy your self-identity to make you into a killer that it's weird we don't "decompress" soldiers in some manner. Teach them how to function as a civilian, not a warrior again.
@Slow 2 Respond within a week of my brothers first day job (he was 16), a couple of people ran in and one put a gun to his forehead to open the cashier machine but he had no idea how... his coworker then shoved my brother aside and said he can help them take whatever they want. He has crippling PTSD from that now
I dont know if the US military is somehow fucked because militaries "teach killing" in dozens of countries to thousands of people and they are still able to live perfectly normal lives. Modern lifestyle apparently makes you impotent as a warrior.
@Arvaa Kuka maybe something to do with the disillusion after realizing we were or are the aggressors and unlawfully invaded countries, destroyed them, and killed numerous innocent civilians??
@Stephanie Nuttall Yeah, that can certainly be a part of it. The morale the soldiers have is not only an important for their performance as soldiers, but obviously also contributes to their mental health.
@Arvaa Kuka lol. how do you know that soldiers from other countries are living normal lives? most first world countries haven't been participating in wars for a long time. and in less developed countries people just don't really publicly talk about those things, so you wouldn't know about their struggles. The US citizens just go to wars far more often than citizens from other first world countries lmao
@meow pasha I was not talking about wars, I was talking about the military as an institution. And I know because I served in the Finnish military and everyone there was just fine despite being "trained as killers". So clearly the training is not the problem.
@Arvaa Kukawell, I believe that PTSD and other pshychological issues occure mostly with people who's been through war. that's what people are talking about. but also the military training is not the only factor that influences person's mental health. how the society of a certain country theats people in general have an impact too, even the training itself and the conditions of service are heavily impacted by that. here in Russia for example, human rights, mental health and well being of an avarage individual are not really viewed as important by the goverment institutions. and we have compulsory military service. young guys are certainly not trained to kill, just to follow meaningless orders. plus they are often abused and bored af, wasting a year of their lives. not great for mental health and socialisation especially if you already have issues with those. so thaining can be an issue, but it really depends on the society.
@Black Lives Dont Matter A thief once opined "I may steal but that does not make me inhuman".
Some people steal to feed their children. Some people steal because they feel wal-mart deserves to be robbed. In both cases I would deem it right. Children need to be fed and wal-mart is responsible for putting children in sweatshops.
We'll keep your indifference to human life and ignorance of its' complexities out of the conversation.
@Slow 2 Respond everyone handles trauma differently, so honestly someone could develop PTSD from something we’d view as minor. the way our brains function is so fascinating isn’t it.
a soldier we sent into the most gruesome and mentally painful war has lost his mind? how could this have happened? it isn't the government's fault though, must be his fault
@Comedy TV i don’t think he is. i think he means that it shouldn’t be so shocking considering he was legally trained to murder doesn’t justify his actions though.
@Comedy TV He's not excusing his actions, he's pointing out that no one should be surprised that such an obviously disturbed person ended up committing such an atrocity. He was also referring to Andy B, not Markeith lloyd.
All part of the strategy of tension. The judicial system is hugely profitable. They’ve got to keep it going somehow. I guess all the drugs that the CIA imports and puts on the streets isn’t quite enough.
@Stephanie Nuttall No, it's more about watching your friends die and taking lives. It's not about geopolitics guy. Doesn't matter how just or unjust the war is.
@meow pasha People don't get PTSD from training nor do they get PTSD from being in the military, it's from combat. People who say they got PTSD from training get laughed at and called pussies. After the Vietnam war the soldiers and marines coming home were spit on by civilians and abused. That added to their mental illness.
@ITB okay, thanks for explaining another perspective to me. I can see how that would definitely play a part in the immediate situation of being at war. But what about afterward?...years later when becoming aware of the deceptive and manipulative reasons why they were there in the first place?
@Marcus Aurelius Antoninus well I understand that and I'm not ungrateful although I can see how i sounded that way. I'm just not proud of the things our military has done under false pretenses. Doesn't mean I spit on our troops.... More like just our/their leadership
@Stephanie Nuttall I understand that. I didn't mean to sound like "you personally". I actually got fired up by the amount of comments with the same general message. I agree with you, there hasn't been a single "necessary" war involving the US in a long, long time, it's all for money and power. What I can't stand is that after using their media pets to convince the population into supporting a war effort, they then use the same media pets to spread hatred for those who actually went and fight, I see this happening over and over starting with Vietnam. "Baby killers", "Well, the army trains them to kill", these are nonsensical, naive and usually damaging "slogans". If the establishment wanted to celebrate these Vets as heroes, then the people would buy it. They don't, what they want is division and demoralisation. If these vets had returned home as heroes, they would start talking, and the people would start listening, and soon you'd see a drastic decrease in warmongers being elected to office, they can't allow that, eh?
@Stephanie Nuttall a lot of them just get it because of there fallen brothers not even necessarily because they develop the thought process that you stated . Usually when that’s the case (growing a conscious ) they speak out on it . Most of these guys just have ptsd from the fact that a person they trained with , ate with , and went through unimaginable suffering with together only for them to get killed in battle . A lot of these guys get survivals guilt and it really sucks . All because yes our government disposed of them like a napkin , no help whatsoever. Times have changed and it’s a lot better now but there is much more room for improvement when it comes to taking care of our vets .
During my service I had the pleasure of working in and with SOCOM, United States’ Special Operations command. I experienced a lot in a lot of places, but in my perspective, it really is how the people around you take it. Of course I have some issues, but I think Vietnam was a whole different animal. They weren’t serving alongside confident battle hardened men, who can walk you through the trauma and give understanding to the things we went through. They were serving with men forced into a situation where they saw their friends dying left and right while the country was condemning every action. PTSD is definitely real for combat veterans, it’s something I struggle with as does just about everyone whose been to theatre, but Vietnam was a war who created mentally broken men, who also had the capacity to kill. Just from my perspective, that’s how I look at it.
@Arvaa Kuka The constant state of war that is present in some other countries, is not a desirable outcome. The people in those countries do not want to live like that which is why there are refugees.
@Arvaa Kuka How many Finnish soldiers experienced a war such as Vietnam? How many war veterans are there? Finland is also known for their progressive policies regarding people with mental health issues.
@meow pasha I served in the army and in a war in my country, PTSD as some society damaging thing is purely some joke made by westerners. Maybe your just weaker, maybe your people have more guilt, but while there's plenty of problems here it's not out veterans who are struggling emotionally or in processing what they did even after having to fight brothers for 5 years.
@Slow 2 Respond lots of ppl think they have "ptsd" from being misgendered. I think it's bullshit in 99% of cases. Combat vets and traumatic event survivors, aside.
@cecil keith because the US only spends hundred of billions duh? You think they could possibly support their soldiers after the job is done don’t be a snowflake!!
It's a shame that this has so many thumbs up, as it's likely the single most disrespectful thing that someone could say about our military. Unsurprisingly, this kind of garbage comes almost w/out exception from ppl who have never known or spent time w/ veterans or soldiers.
When in doubt, be grateful for the freedom's that our veterans have fought for you to have rather than castigating them as mentally damaged potential murderers who forfeited all personal agency once they put on a uniform.
@Arvaa Kuka actually not that true, developed countries don't have so much people deployed, probably the only comparable one is China, but it's not. really a developed country, so yeah, even tho a lot of people have been in the military bc it was mandatory, or they are drafted, they weren't (aren't) on any battle fields... even current eu deployed personnel isn't as active in missions as us soldiers. You don't get PTSD from training, you get it bc you face death, or you bring death upon someone (mostly the second one)
You might as well put a slash partial markeith Lloyd in the title baby lol one of my fav stories watched both trials thank goodness and god he off the streets
My brother introduced my to your content and I'm so glad he did, thank you for the time and work you put into your videos, happily binging them now and hope you get your own series soon, you definitely deserve it! x
My dad is Deaf so he was not drafted to Vietnam. But all of his friends were and I grew up surrounded by Vietnam vets. They all suffered. Those still alive are suffering still. Those who have died died as a result of injuries sustained in the war. This is just so sad.
@Sneaker Bay about the only veterans I salute! Thank you to all WWI&II veterans for their service and sacrifices. All the rest depends on the lens you view them through 🤷♀️
As for Andy. What he also did is not acceptable and deserved punishment. He did act in a manner that is reminiscent of C-PTSD symptomology and I believe they should have allowed for the defense of temporary insanity in relation to compounding factors and sentenced him to indefinite prison mental hospital hold with intensive treatment to gauge the level to which his mind could be rehabilitated. We are so quick to punish without efforts to care and rehabilitate which is where this country continues to fail.
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Ahmed Tarek2021-12-21 20:52:39 (edited 2021-12-21 20:53:47 )
blah blah blah about his last words, screw Andy B, Sadly these words would've been sufficient to immediately alter the freaking jury's decision. The irony when emotions are stronger than bulletproof evidence in a criminal justice system
It would be nice but I imagine it would suck for him a a individual creator. You know how greedy these big corporations are. They wont give shit about him and the work he does as long as it makes them money. Would honest be better for him to just keep what hes doing as an independent creator.
No way! Takes away creative control, loses the feel. I stopped watching 2 youtubers who sold out, it doesn't have the same personal feel. Dr. Pimple Popper is a good example. Her videos just aren't the same anymore. Hollywood chews you up and spits you out.
@Rj SKUM you could compliment in other ways. Jim your videos are way better quality than the TV or other platforms. Every media mogul has their own agenda for what they think needs to be seen and heard. Besides CIA and all those run in the background of Hollywood.
It's shocking that he wasn't declared insane to me... I am a firm believer that juries are absolute bs and i believe a judge would have decided differently. Oh and i can't help but think about the normal Vietnamese people who had to go through the war and were unable to get psychological help and had to live in a country that got destroyed. If veterans, who got to go home to an undestroyed country and got psychological help still have so many issues years later, i can't even imagine how they were doing...
My uncle was a Vietnam vet and he would have flashbacks if his feet were wet especially a sweaty or wet sock. He was able to shower because it was running water, his feet were bare, and his whole body was also wet. Terribly sad. I guess his feet were always wet in Vietnam. RIP Butch, a true American patriot.
I don’t agree with Markeith’s life choices, but the fact that those interviewers didn’t even give him medical attention, and just ignored what he has to say..That’s fucked. How do you see a person in so much pain and not do anything??
This is your least viewed video but its definitely your best by far. You did a fantastic job at opening my eyes to the biases that can form simply from the presentation of information, the order its given and how its presented.
Your videos are usual a piece of art. This one is in my opinion one of the best. I think you are the best YouTube channel out there. Keep up the great work, much respect.
I remember seeing the vid of the officer getting killed without any backstory and didn't realize this video was about the shooter.
All makes sense now. I could even tell during the fire fight that he HAD to have had some heavy combat experience. I don't even see that kind of movement from police officers
Yeah.. two bronze stars for bravery walking front in Nam. Tip of the spear. Just about the last person you want to be in a firefight with.
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Don't forget, in that moment he was prepared to die, and the officer wasn't. That's a huge factor to consider, even bigger than his combat experience IMO.
This is just so eff tup. The Vietnamese civillians are the victims. The US soldiers are also victims. The perpetrators are the military industrial complex shareholders.
For everyone watching can we please interact with this video and get the algorithm to pick it up because it is absolutely incredible and more people need to be able to experience and appreciate it!
It's under strict graphic content restriction, the algorithm doesn't pick up these at all. The only way you can find it is if you search for it specifically or if you're subscribed
“I’m glad to be getting out of this place” my heart broke when I heard that. This is a man who’s watched so many people he cares about die. He’s not evil. Just broken. A part of me admires the officers attempts to not kill the man and another part wonders if he should have given the outcome.
This is very challenging stuff. I fully admit to understanding and sharing the rage of the detectives interrogating Markeith, and I balked at the audacity, in the wake of his horrible crimes, that he would whine for "medical attention".
But at the same time I've always felt that any culture can be assessed according to how it treats the worst of its prisoners, and so I'm not proud of giving into wrath. Horrible as his crimes are, it requires struggle, but I still, in the end, must feel that the detectives should have composed themselves as proper professionals. It's not simple or black-and-white, but they were wrong to deny Markeith medical attention.
Reprehensible piece of shit that he is.
I'm familiar with the Dinkheller execution, I saw the footage for the first time only recently. I didn't watch it this time. His unrestrained screams of physical pain before the final shot through his eye were haunting enough the first time.
This video brilliantly highlights the impact of documenting these events. Maybe my favorite of any vid "Jim Can't Swim" has produced. Like a legitimate short film all its own.
Shame this video doesn’t have more views like the others on this channel. Stuff like this hits real close to home, especially having seen the effects of Vietnam on my own father and the care he was never given. Things like walking in a room and seeing him stare at a turned off TV or him holding a thousand yard stare while sitting at the dinner table. Unfortunate truth was they fought a brutal war and returned to insults, never having the opportunity or ability to get the helped they needed.
As someone who has seen each video on this channel probably 5 times, I couldn't even bring myself to watch this one more than once. It is just extremely hard-hitting.
As soon as that guy started dancing the cop should have lit em up. If you can’t listen to instructions you’re not only a threat to police, you’re a threat to society.
It seems Youtube has put all JCS videos backup. Instead of the guy with floaties on his arms, is a kitty, but its authentic JCS and not knockoff imitators. There is a content warning now popping up before video plays and viewer has to acknowledge awareness of inapropriate and violent themes.
Wow. Another case of police brutality. Just like Floyd, what happen to Lloyd is unjust and deserves retaliation. Just remember guys, ACAB, and defund the police. Edit: That guy with the accent deserves to be in prison for like. Aint no way you talk to a brother like that.
The officers showed him to much discomfort! What about the 4 people he violently murdered? A lil bit excessive on the beating of him but I honestly don’t give a shit about that after what he did to those people.
How visual evidence (video, in this case) can actually distort the truth resulting in verdicts that were overly reliant on said evidence. Loved everything about this video (and channel), and the same premise could easily be applied to eyewitness testimony.
Why is this video limited? I have no intention of sending the photos of my PERSONAL documents to YT just to watch a criminal video. Is it really something soooo scary on this video or what??
Same!! No it's not any worse than his other vids. It's ridiculous!! Anyway, watch this reaction video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFOfdDkxStM&t=2s I found one that wasn't age restricted and the guy wasn't even talking that much.
Ive been binge watching these episodes for an entire week while doing house work.. and now that I’ve watched them all I don’t know what to do with myself. Its like that sad feeling you get after watching the season finale of your favorite tv show. Thank you for such a an amusing and fascinating channel!
One of the detectives interrogating Loyd... must dislike dogs. He refers to Loyd as a dog and says Loyd killed people like they were dogs. Makes a comment about rabid dogs in the street. Why does he hate on dogs
oh police, u r de-escalators gone way haywire perpetuating untold amounts of violence, none the less. stop, and admit it. PTSD is entirely preventable.
Oh hey cool! I just remembered my password, well ONE account's password, anyway. I'm still locked out of FB, Gmail, etc., but I feel like I just made a miracle!! 😁
Kaley P. But it could have potentially jeopardized the case because they acted unprofessionally. He deserved a lot worse, but cops aren’t assassins who carry out revenge.
Nah it was not justified. In this case of course we know what he did and we dont have sympathy obviously, but the thing is they do this to lots of people, most of whom arent even suspects, just because they are power tripping. Thats fucked up
some of you seriously need to think logically about this. this is different from a group of random citizens beating up this dude. these are the police. these are the people who are meant to b protecting us and enforcing the law. if they can do this to a guy who killed their co-worker, do you not think they'd do this to an old bully from school? an ex wife? a teacher who gave their kid a bad grade?
they have a shitload of power and they shouldn't be encouraged to bend the laws and exercise this power however they please. yes, that dude who got blinded was a scumbag. no, if a random man on the street had done that to him i can't say i would have cared. but the police doing it is a completely different issue. it's their job to enforce the law fairly no matter the circumstance. if they can't do that properly then the whole institution collapses
@GabricksLEGO the thing is they all knew what he did, you know hence why they were searching for him? He was no "suspect" he was already guilty and was actively trying to evade police. Yeh they shouldn't of beatbox him but it's not like they just straight up shot him.
My first love joined the army and ended up being shot in the line of duty in Iraq, he recovered and was never the same. He volunteered for two more tours and came home, honorably discharged at age 30. He ended up dying from suicide…
i offer my deepest condolences. i’m truly sorry to hear this and pray that you have found some solace in knowing that your love is no longer suffering. please continue to move forward and enjoy life in his honor, i’m positive it’s what he would’ve wanted. please extend my thanks for his service the next time you visit him. sending you much love and peace at this time.
@AK Milli whatever you think about those soldiers you arent hurting them, your words are hurting a loved one, she wasnt there in Iraq also you dont know if her husband was part of the problem
God damnn it I wanted that man dead, they should have fined the cops or something, but in what world does it make sense that a criminal who have committed such crimes does not get medical attention (which he doesn't deserve) and you just give him life@prison instead of death sentence. Like he just killed 3 people. I don't know why they even take a criminal like him to a hospital when they have clear evidence of the crime. Law also works in mysterious ways I guess.
can we be honest with the idea that the american people, the media, the government and the families who received them, had no idea how to treat the men who fought in vietnam?
They take one of your own I don’t expect them not to act like that. Guy was a horrible human being. Unloading clips into wife, baby, family, and a poor police officer.
Man this is one of the saddest videos you’ve made. I’ve had all the feels in this one. All those that died, so unnecessary. The PTSD guy I feel so bad for same as the officer. War is fucked. They sent people to war but they don’t look after them when they leave.
But also police losing their training as one of their own is lost. Should have been given to another division do proper procedure should have been followed.
“yeah i know i just murdered a cop and a pregnant woman but you weren’t nice to me so i need a reduced sentence” “yeah that makes total sense let’s work a deal out with this guy”
No, YT should absolutely die, because YT is an anti consumer corporation that gaslights its entire userbase and treats its creators like crap. What you mean is, the CREATORS on YT shouldn't die.
@NEO I literally did nothing "woke" at all. I said that youtube as a corporation treats people like crap which is is a bad thing, and if you don't believe me, try asking one of these creators someday. I don't think you know what "woke" means lmao
@Trucker Rawb It will likely take a long time, but if it continues to go on the self destructive path it's been on for the better part of a decade now, it will eventually die out and be replaced by a better competitor.
@Formula Fanboy Idk why people think "YouTube" or Google or whoever owes anything to the creators. YouTube just created a website, the creators can choose whether or not to post there.
That's like expecting Twitter to give something back to people who make good tweets. Makes no sense
Youtube should and will die, They censor people for political speech that goes against the main stream narrative, there are plenty of other alternative platforms that are coming up. Rumble is a good example, Odysee is another. Video hosting websites will not die, but this one should and will.
@Debbie Sunlight Use another website that hosts videos. There are plenty, youtube censors people for political opinions. They should and will die under the weight of their own corruption.
@NEO I think you misunderstand the meaning of "woke". Youtube is a dying platform because the censor political speech that they don't like. They should and will collapse under the weight of their own corruption.
Who the hell told you YT is dying? It's just changing as all platforms do. The control of advertising revenue should've always been something that all parties had a say in - and thats what we see today with ads that are even unavoidable for premium users like myself. This may sound like a bad thing but I think it actually fosters more useful ads, less tracking, and takes view and subscriber counts, content quality, and other factor driven rewards out of googles (YT's) hands solely. This was inevitable and is required for the long term health of the platform. Also, YT stories, YT shorts, Live Streaming, Sponsoring, Patreon, Merch, and tons of other content driven sub industries are a HUGE driver of what makes this platform unbeatable even in the wake of TikTok.
Yeah, YT ain't going anywhere. Not when you have a product as diversified as YT. Within the Google software ecosystem it's a platform in that of itself and is probably one of the most significant chunks of adrev for goofle there is. It's the de fact official live stream platform for just about anything that matters these days, and I don't plan om stopping using YT Music or YT TV anything soon.
@NT Fun fact: calling everyone you disagree with is "delusional" isn't a good way to start a conversation. :)
The current YT should either die or get their act together and the same goes for their parent company Google, who are even worse.
Do some actual research into what kind of things both of them have done. I'd highly recommend the "Technocracy" series by TheMysteriousMrEnter. One search away. ^^
@john sefton very sorry that i struck a nerve. but you know, you could always ignore me. like what most normal people do. i'm not gonna stop you from bootlicking the anticonsumer corporations (: (: (:
@Formula Fanboy I agree with you. Kind of annoyed at some of the people who rather attack you then present a argument as to why YouTube is good for consumers etc.
@Jason Ahl The whole youtube money thing has always seemed like a grey area to me. People do act as if content creators are employed at a company of sorts, while that's really not the case. They're benefitting from the amount of attention they manage to draw to a specific little nook on this site and the amount of ads they can get people to watch, that is all. In most cases this turns out to be a lot less than minimum wage, but in some rare ones it grows into a multi million dollar thing and people seem to think the odds of this happening are a lot higher than they actually are. Even channels with over a million subs often have a patreon attached to keep a more steady flow of income. You're better off looking for a real job first and then do social media stuff on the side. I think it makes for better content anyway, cause people don't feel pressured into putting stuff out and don't have to follow cookie-cutter format to draw in the largest amount of people. And beside all that it seems large media corporations are migrating to the online space more and more anyway, so at a certain point there may not be anything to gain at all for solo creators. I hope it doesn't get to that though, cause there's a kind of charm to the hastely put together videos that don't have to go through a whole team of people before they get released. It feels more personal and can sometimes be more fun to watch than a video by a centralized media giant. Yet at the same time it also makes for a lot of really subpar videos making it to the front page all the time and it kinda degrades the general culture I feel like. Balance between personal but also high quality well researched and passionate is necessary, though that rarely seems to be struck as OP said channels like these manage to get pretty close
Jason Ahl that’s a shortsighted view of the situation. a company who treats those who bring in their money as badly as yt does, in any other context, would be unacceptable and probably illegal. if there were concrete rules that they applied to anyone then it would be a different story, but as it stands the company feels it has the right to deplatform anyone it chooses without rhyme or reason. to your point, they literally do owe something to creators, as without creators the site would simply not function, not bring in revenue, and not even exist. it’s an unsustainable ecosystem to both rely on people and treat them poorly.
Bob Gymlan It has the most potential and probably the largest base of users so if you’re looking at it simply as “what are my options, where can i find an audience” then you’re right. but even something like patreon is better “for creators”, as it’s less restrictive and actually transparent about its regulation. You’re saying “it’s the best platform” because it’s the biggest option. Which actually speaks to its detriments, as gaining a following is either extremely calculated and manipulative or extremely random.
This was resonating to me. I was an Army E.O.D. tech, we were not marines or the tip of the spear, but often times we would work with them and be the butt of the spear to clear the area and make it relatively more safe, unless of course its a convoy path then we take the lead since we have specialized vehicles to take damage from below and metal/signal sensors mounted on front. I respect those marines as much as i respect the comrades who have saved my life several times. They have the biggest balls of anyone i can imagine running into what you KNOW is a minefield. My crew goes into minefields too but almost every time it's when we have enough of a perimeter to take our time and think, not to mention all of the protective gear and tech we have, front line soldiers can't afford to lose mobility by having all of that on them. In Andy B's case it was even worse, because the E.O.D. soldiers back then had little to no gear besides a simple toolkit at times.
@apo kos I didn't kill anyone, I was in E.O.D. my job was to REMOVE landmines, not plant them. Plenty of the landmines we removed were placed in innocent villages. The civs who came up to me and thanked me for making their farm inhabitable again is enough for me, go ahead and throw all the shade you want.
@ARCHOCK ENCANTO money is not a justification for war in the sense of the grand scheme of things, i do not put any blame on the solder, in fact i feel sorry for them. Most wars in America (or "conflicts" as they like to call them) are completely unjustified other than the pursuit of greed. Be it weapons of mass destruction or oil its always in the grand majority unjustified.
Also, just a side note, I'm not American and have never been there.
And what do you mean by the grand scheme of things? There isn't a well laid out scheme here. It's not like all the wars America goes to is to help whomever or anything else in some sort of intricate mechanism. It's always for dominance and as a by-product, money. And, money is a justification for war... That's why people go to war over it.
Now, if you're talking about if it's a moral justification or not, that's another matter.
@ARCHOCK ENCANTO i mean the moral justification is what i was talking about, i wouldn't exactly call conflict with foreign opposition in the motive of greed as "justified"
Maybe in the logical sense but not in the sense that I see morally
@SWIMS vg Morality is subjective. To me, going to war for money is justifiable if the ultimate motive of getting that money is overall positive. I'm not one to like America or Americans, but I'd rather that America dominates Iran and China and Russia and others than not.
@RobNobby so you can sleep well, you removed the mines so you are the good guy? it doesnt matter that the forces you serve in created all this death of innocents, destuction pf property, displaced populations of civilians, ruined the lives of millions so you can get a paycheck?
@apo kos It isn't about the paycheck, what are you doing spreading anti-soldier messages on a Youtube comment section besides spreading one side of another war? Just your own way. Your spreading hate without having the courage to stand in front of it. Bravo for you.
@apo kos Homicide for money is entirely different. Basically a hitman job.
A soldier isn't a mercenary. He's not paid depending on how many he kills or whatever. Whether he kills or doesn't, he will get paid. Obviously, there's more likelihood for promotions and such, but no one will willingly go to war over the possibility of a promotion. Meaning... Again, soldiers don't get paid for how many people they kill. Well they do... But not American soldiers anyways (except the promotional aspect including badges, medals, rank increases and obviously minor pay increases).
Also, you seem to underestimate non-americans way too much. America basically lost a war against rice farmers in Vietnam. It's not like they start opening fire on unarmed people. Most of the opposition is as prepared as can reasonably be.
And, there is an obligation. I said obligation to the military and their country. That doesn't just mean an obligation to defend or secure the benefits for. It means fighting for both of those entities no matter what. Even if that involves gassing 2 month old infants. There's an oath soldier take along with a ton of atmospheric suggestions which deliberately lock soldiers into the system. Of following orders.
AFTER enlisting in the military, there's not much choice you have. Getting dishonourable discharged means you're probably not going to get a well paid job anywhere in America. Most recruits are in their young twenties.
Basically, there's an obligation for paid (by salary not wage) professionals(if you consider all soldiers to be professionals) to fight and kill on all and any orders from the top. And, after enlisting, it's hardly their choice.
I haven't even covered the propaganda and coercive aspects to getting young recruits yet.
You'd better get this idea out of your head that soldiers are mercenaries. They dont get paid per kill. Also, you'd be surprised to know how little the pay increase is for an ordinary soldier who hasn't gone through any school. And, it's not like they're fighting some 5 year old kid with a watermelon in his hand.
(Well some are fighting that 5 year old kid, but that's not the norm, also that's a part of the obligation IF the order to fire at civilians comes from the top)
@RobNobby 1) the messages arent "antisoldier", im prood my ancestors fought the nazis and fascist. 2) "spreading hate without having the courage to stand in front of it", what exactly are you talking about? do you need me to be in front of you to have this discussion? im talking right here standing for what i believe in. 3) "knowing nothing about war", i have served in my country's military 4) "fighting social justice and bad name calling" now you are purposfully being vague and trying to attack the person, instead of giving specific counter arguments to my points. dont they teach you what ad hominem is over there?
@ARCHOCK ENCANTO you dont want to talk about the difference of professional soldiers and civilians being drafted. when people joined in ww2, they went to fight for a cause, then went back to their normal lives. they didnt choose to make a living out of being paid killers for most of their lives, like professionals do. someone that decides willingly to serve for most of his life in order to make money is essentially a mercenary. study some european renaissance history to see the difference in mercenaries and civilian soldiers, for example the 80 years war. for your other argument, "following orders" is not a legitimate legal excuse anymore, according to the Nuremberg trial, otherwise all those nazis that controled the death camps would be innocent, as they were just "following orders" and "having an obligation to their country". it doesnt work like that, you cant take that to court.
The dude just explained they were EOD. They're the guys who risk their lives to remove the mines that they didn't put there. They're saving people from losing lives and limbs by stepping on them. You should stop and realize that they aren't the ones filled with hate. It's you.
@Nomad when you try to reply to someone, you need to press the response button so they get a notification. it doesnt matter if one soldier removes mines or another places them, they signed up to be professional soldiers, to get paid for bringing their guns to another country and killing civilians. im not going to find out who exactly killed the most innocents, the numbers speak for themselves, he is part of an army of paid killers. you sound like the guys that say "not every nazi comitted war crimes".
@apo kos You know, that thought never really crossed my mind - but tbf I'm sure it's true. Probably not every Nazi committed war crimes. Plus, probably MOST positions in any military are entirely non-combative (logistics and whatnot). Guys like him have probably never fired a shot at someone. And definitely not at the civilians that they are risking their lives to protect by removing harmful devices without any obligation to do so.
You seem to have a fairly warped perception of this matter - I hope it's from a place of naivety and not malice. Don't put groups of people in these binary boxes of good and bad. Good, well-meaning people don't make a habit of doing this. I encourage you to try to see things from other perspectives.
@Nomad the "nazi warcrimes" example is to explain exactly my previous point. not everyone in the military (or the police, but that's a different topic) is inherently evil. they may be the best guys, they may do the rare good thing. but the majority are there willingly to kill for money. that is the job of a soldier, and no man with a concience would choose that as a profession, that's why for most of human history, most combatants were drafted ordinary civilians. the nazi example is that we dont know who exactly commited crimes and who didnt, and its pointless to try and find out. their army did those crimes and they were part of it, so they are responsible, even the support/logistics people.
@apo kos The fact that you mention police shows yours issues with this has far deeper roots. I don't think you know how this stuff works. Just because you belong to a group of people doesn't mean you should be blamed for something you didn't do. This is the stuff that racists do.
If I am robbed by a man do I say well all men are robbers? If it's a black person do I say all black people are robbers? If they're from Canada do I say all Canadians are robbers? You'll have nothing but problems in the future with this mindset. You need to really ask yourself critically why you believe the things you do.
@Nomad the examples you mention are people that happened to be born in the same place/race/nationality. a job is something you personally choose as an adult. i cant see how you didnt spot that difference. there are solid facts on the institutional problems that plague certain jobs, and in the primary mondus operandi of said jobs. i will break it down for you in even simpler terms. a soldier's job is to fight and kill, even the support personel are trained in that. a civilian soldiers does that because he was asked to by his state/kingdom etc, he didnt decide to spend his whole life fighting and killing. a professional soldier decides, as an adult, to spend his life doing this "job", fighting and killing in exchange for money. do you get this now or should i write it in even simpler words?
@apo kos I can see what you're saying. But they barely get any money lol. If they really wanted to kill for money they'd become mercenaries... it's more money, doesn't depend on your country to be in a conflict, and it's WAY less work. What you're saying may be true of some of the people. But treating that as the standard and treating everyone as guilty before proven innocent just shows a disconnect from reality.
@Nomad is the amount of money really a serious argument to consider? and people cant become mercenaries (at least in the western world) without prior military experience, so that's also a weak argument. im treating everyone as guilty when their army commits war crimes, there is no point in trying to figure out who exactly did what, its the same thing with the nazis in ww2. not everyone did the same things, but they were, by choice, part of an army that willfully killed innocents. and this is even worse for the american military because these people arent drafted, they choose to be part of that army and kill people. even those that dont pull the trigger themselves, they accept this reality as something they want to be a part of
@apo kos "is the amount of money really a serious argument to consider?"
Well when you said their motive was greed to kill for money, yes. I can see you're not here to converse and share ideas but to spout your own hateful and misguided conclusions and then you're confused as to why people don't want to agree with you or to be like you.
@Nomad that's funny, you're saying im not here to converse when i've directly answered you arguments, used specific counter points and examples, and followed the proper conduct in a discussion. is it that you are running out of arguments? why dont you try to give direct counterarguments to those i present, instead of making broad claims and assumptions? also, you should notice, i've never commented on your personality, as you repeatedly do. this is ill mannered and to be avoided in a civilized conversation. to your argument, any amount of money enough to keep you out of poverty is a good incentive to take a job. what matters is what job people choose to do. personally, i wouldnt willingly choose to be a full-time murderer, there are many decent jobs with equal or better pay that you dont have to invade people's countries.
@Nomad i see, you grew tired and dont want to think of any counterarguments, so you try to just break up the conversation. you could just have said nothing. if you want to at least try and get better at this in the future, read on the correct rules of discussion and the proper ettiquete, this was embarassing.
It's weird seeing people say "treat veterans better" and "the guy that killed his pregnant girlfriend deserved it". Those thoughts are not unjustified, but that isn't the point of the video.
The point made by showing both of these cases is that emotion like the above must not play a factor in justice or it can prevent a just outcome.
Yes! I’d never factored in how much of a role video cam footage plays in persuading a jury to be for or against a defendant, like you said it all stems from emotion and what the particular footage is exhibiting The first guy it could be argued ended up shooting the cop due to his PTSD, the second I would consider worse yet he got a lesser sentence, all due to emotion wrapped up in the video camera footage. Although I will say, the ex-vet it would seem by his final words was relieved. The trauma I can only imagine. But yes, an interesting point I hadn’t considered and appears went amiss in the comment section
That's a very astute observation & interesting when you consider the video he did on Cassie, where her council expressly sought for the jury not to engage their emotional bias when they deliberated & ended up giving her the not guilty verdict virtually everyone else unanimously disagreed with.
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S S2020-10-05 17:35:38 (edited 2020-10-05 17:37:49 )
Yes , but that sud ALSO be the point of the video ...it is not " WEIRD" like u say for some reason... .and saying that is COMPLETELY right. ......so there u HV it
An important comment for sure. While I can appreciate the willingness of people to share experiences and spark a conversation about the topics mentioned here, the brilliancy of the video and it's core message is easily lost.
Yeah. Here I am in terror as I think about how unpredictable a jury could be in their ability to judge a case. This was a scary video for an American like me
We know thats the point of the video to make and it already did...this is the comment section where we can comment on sections of the video. Theres no rules on the section on what we xan express. The video already explained itself perfectly unless we have questions.
Markieth killed one of their own, he shot her body as she was laying dead on the ground ... he didn’t shoot her to harm her so he could escape. The pain he went through was nothing compared to what that policewoman endured.
The quality you present these videos with is not only astonishing but captivating beyond imagine. Thank you for working so hard on these. I terrifyingly look forward to watching more of these. It’s scary watching. Thank you for including the testimony’s of the guilty. I don’t know how to find them and it would be scary watching them without your narration. The psychological analysis on top of the testimony makes these beyond gold.
It’s fucked that people were drafted to be sacrificed for this meaningless war. The Americans achieved nothing and all of the fighting was in vain. To the Vietnamese, this was a war of independence from their colonial oppressors and their allies.
I’d rather have people get the life sentence I don’t know why people want them to be on death row I’d rather have them rot in a jail cell death just ends every thing too soon
It seemed like Andy was a kool ass olhead 😎without the killin ofcourse🤦♀️ I could see me chillin wit Andy listening to all his NAM stories grooving to Jimmy hendrix puffin on a fat doobie 😏 they trashed Markeith n they was ready n case he popped off chile thats y the door was open when he was getting interrogated🧐 they NEVER leave that door open weather they n there wit u or not u could be there as a witness that door gonna be closed honey🤣🤣🤣
Is this video glitchy for anyone else? Edit: the video sometimes includes or excludes the Markeith Lloyd part. The time length shows 10 min. or 20 min.
One of the best YouTube channels I have ever seen on this website. I am of course saddened by the small amount of videos that are posted so far but I am beyond excited for what’s to come. JCS you deserve every single one of these tens of millions of views. I hope this success is aiding your life in a positive way. You deserve it these videos are masterpieces.
@informitas 0 if it is for your country,and your values and under NO circumstances for oil,money,influence,i guess that people are ready to like it.We love loving false values so much,that we could die for them.Yes,people have died for oil,believing that they defend their country half a world away from it.
The guy that killed his girl with their child in her belly, he needed to go, that's a death-penalty case if I've ever seen one. However, I've seen the full video towards the end of this vid. I've seen many, many awful videos. But that one.. that particular one haunts me more than any. And any of y'all that decide you're going to go look it up would be wise to heed JCS's warning. I jerked my headphones out as he ran toward the cruiser, unsure of when JCS would cut the video. I should've known better, I should've known he wouldn't play it to that point, but the thought that there was even a 1% chance was enough to rip the headphones out. Everything involved in that incident is just tragic, all the way around. We need to take better care of our veterans. I am an Army veteran. And fortunately I can say I have been well taken care of, but others haven't been so lucky. I always enjoy JCS videos, but this one was especially powerful.
Death advocates seem to forget that is the easy way out. A life sentence is much more harsh, and makes these horrible people continue to work for society. Death penalty is never a good option when we already have the highest incarceration rate of any country.
@air breather A life sentencing without parole is not intended to be educative or productive for society, neither is it a way of punishment since theoretically jail is not for that. When certain individuals are no longer socially functional with no signs of regret and keeping them alive is not making up from any resources being expend keeping that up I see no reason on extending their lives, just as they made sure to not keep others alive too when they clearly had an option to do so.
@air breather Just extending my opinion based on yours, death penalty is a VERY serious decision, I agree that it should not be normalized, but there are some moral guides that just outrule any religious or social morally rights concepts. Like murdering a cop while she's on the ground asking for help.
The worst video I've ever watched is one that shows a cartel of some kind killing a police officer in front of his son, then cutting the son open before ripping his heart out with their bare hands as he is still alive.
@George Jnr yeah man, like I said I've watched a lot of really nasty, disturbing videos and I think I know which one you're talking about (just from the description, I didn't end up watching it). There's a lot of cartel videos I refuse to watch because the brutality and evilness of it is just too much for me. Personally, I don't enjoy watching fucked up videos of humans doing terrible things to other humans but I force myself to watch them. Reason being, disagree with me if you like, we're all entitled to our own opinions and I respect that, I see the way things are going in this country. People don't realize how precarious our civility is. How thin the veneer really is and how quickly everything that we take for granted can come crumbling down around us. The worst humanity has to offer can become commonplace by starting with a relatively small crack of the glass that is our civilized society, and then the crack spiderwebs and the whole thing comes crashing down. So I watch horrible videos for the sole, intentional purpose of desensitizing me so that, should societal collapse happen, I'm better able to deal with what we will see and keep my head on straight. Things are getting spicy out there, my friends, be prepared, just in case.
Matheus Salabert You can’t make the “resources” argument in support of the death penalty, because the death penalty costs more than just imprisoning someone for the rest of their life. Your entire argument is one against the death penalty, but due to a misconception you think it supports it.
@mechveteran01 I’ve been an active member of best gore for a while now. When you first start watching shock videos and gore, it is shocking. However, it helped me understand reality and all of the consequences life can have.
When people get their heads chopped off slowly with a knife and you can hear the moment their breath comes through the hole in their throat. That sound haunts me. I don’t want to hear that officer’s death cries 😞
@air breather It depends. Usually the prisoner has to wait for years or even decades for his execution. It's really scary to know you're going to be executed but cannot do nothing about it. In a way, it can be more terrifying than living your whole life in a "comfy" prison.
@SuperAvocado Trust me, it isn't. The first 2-4 years is 90% thoughts of suicide and 10% thoughts of avoiding getting taken advantage of. It is not cozy by any means. You sleep with bright lights on in a crowded space. People are shouting 24/7 and everyone is looking for a way to take advantage of you. You work for cents an hour and pay 3x the price for junk food to survive. It is an inhumane place where death is more desirable.
i know i've already left a comment of my own expressing the emotions that i felt after having sought out and absorbed the entirety of the incident, but to anyone else who sees this, please heed JCS's warning pertaining to the subject matter of the full dashcam video. 'vicarious trauma' is a very real thing, especially as we now have the ability to document, in incredibly high definition, some very graphic imagery.
you may think it absurd that watching a mere video can induce feelings of anxiety, stress, or even depression and PTSD responses, but they can. if you already have these conditions, nonfictional videos that are graphic or violent can worsen your symptoms or perhaps even trigger trauma responses of your own.
in the video, you do not see the officer die.
but you hear him.
and i dont know what you might be imagining his final moments sound like, but i will disclose this much:
hearing a man die hits a lot different when it's real. it's not like the movies or the video games you might be accustomed to. JCS was correct in his warning here. it is extremely difficult to listen to his pain as he parts the mortal plane. i am doing my best to word it as vaguely and as respectfully as possible, but even if i were to go in to more descriptive detail, it would not be able to properly convey the intensity of the audio.
i consider myself thick skinned, but i do have a lot of empathy and trauma of my own. i'm relatively well adjusted to it. some may say i am a bit jaded to it, i'm certainly not immune to an instance of private panic or despair, but i function pretty well, save for the despondence and overall lack of motivation that comes with the package deal of depression (terminal). i am especially susceptible to shock material, especially in extremely specific circumstances.
i'm fine when i see an image of a dead body. i partake in "vulture culture" in real life as a hobby, which is the ethical collection of animal parts after they have died in the wild due to natural causes, predation by other animals, or any other circumstances wherein a human did not directly or intentionally cause the end of an animal. i've smelled death, i've cleaned the decay off of bones. i know what it looks like. andsmells like, and FEELS like.
but its not the same as hearing a man's life escape his body.
i am not telling you that you should not seek this video out. i am merely trying to fill you in, if you see this somehow and have read this brick of text, that there is a lot more weight than you may be prepared for. begin your search armed with the knowledge that what you will see is not easily digestable to even the well adjusted, and if you are especially vulnerable, please take care of yourself and do whatever it is you need to to prevent yourself from going in to a spiral.
rest peacefully, andy and kyle. neither of you deserved the hand fate dealt you.
@S Shlept i apologize for the length. after i had watched the video of that officer's death i had been shocked to the point of a traumatic response. i felt the need to describe my process in detail to share with any it may concern as i processed my mental distress.
i still hear it in my head, even a few days after the fact. it really stuck with me, and it might continue to stick with me for awhile longer.
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S Shlept2020-09-10 00:17:46 (edited 2020-09-10 00:18:15 )
@Kigut I know... I watched it a year or two ago, and I'm still trying to forget it. I do feel a little better knowing that he felt bad about it. I still remember the comments on that video, which were just as vulgar, and it only fueled my anger for that man, veteran or not.
Kigut I appreciate the effort and time you put in to write and share your thoughts. My heart is so so heavy after watching this JCS video and reading your comment.
True, I looked it up out of morbid curiosity and because I thought the warnings were over the top, but that really was so fucked up to hear, I wish I could forget it. RIP Kyle.
Hi from a fellow vulture🖤 this was so well written and I couldn’t agree more I wasn’t prepared to hear his last few moments, it was awful and a sound I may never forget. It’s much different when it’s real, and especially when it’s someone who truly didn’t wish to harm another.
I’m a crim major in college. Thinking about joining law enforcement. We watched that entire video in class, with audio, in a dark room at around 9 pm. Stonefaced the rest of class. Went out to my car to drive back home, got in, and broke down sobbing for what felt like hours. I can not describe or understand how deeply I was affected by that officer’s last moments. I am not the kind of person to cry, and often find morbid things interesting. But that man’s screams. They will never leave me.
Thank you. This is so incredibly important and needs to be discussed more in general. This past summer and from then on we have been seeing a lot more real violense almost livestreamed to us. It's not something we are used to, nor is it something we can escape effecting us deeply.
Yeah I saw the video years ago and thought it was one of the most intense things I'd ever seen. I didnt know this documentary was about the shooter until a while in... it will stay with you if you watch it.. its on YouTube
good call writing this down, people with PTSD or anyother disorde related to trauma will expreince trauma through videos (i dont have any serious disorders but just search it out you might find something on this)
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Andreas Kraft2020-12-30 14:59:49 (edited 2020-12-30 15:00:51 )
I've watched the full video a long time ago and I would not recommend watching it. There is nothing positive to gain from these kind of videos tbh and I think I'd be better off not knowing what kind of audio follows.
I've been binge watching this channel the whole day. However, this video has touched on different levels of crime and how the penal system in a need of overhaul. Furthermore, it poignantly touching up on the professional behaviour of law enforcements, it can be to the detriment of holding people accountable and a disservice to the premise of justice. Its a masterclass in criminal psychology and it should be included in the training of these detectives and police officers.
No, that's not Andy B. The reason he yelled at people is because in Vietnam War people need to yelled for indirect communication and let just said that stuff still stuck in Andrew mind's
I shed tears at his final words. Many of us will never know the selfless love that drove this man to endure absolute terror and loss for his brothers. A love so great that it broke him.
So we(America) can send our soldiers out to war with no problem. But once they’re home we shut them out. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.how about we have better help for anybody in the armed forces coming back from a deployment. It’s not easy trust me. I’m one of those soldiers who found it hard when I came back
I'm sorry but just because you are a veteran, that doesn't mean you are some kind of incredible hero that should get a free pass for horrific things that you do.
I see all these people feeling bad for Andrew. I can't feel any sympathy for him. He murdered a police officer in cold blood, for absolutely no reason. He got what he deserved, and that child killing pos didn't get enough.
I guess people feel bad for him because he was a soldier. But that's no excuse. Honestly, the military worship in this country is fucking ridiculous. Especially in regards to Vietnam, which was a completely pointless war.
Pay attention to her eyes and the looks she gives him and the camera. She was asking for help while trying to make it seem light hearted. Very common thing to see now with the age of live broadcasting in cases of domestic abuse.
Yeah that was very sad. It really did look like she was trying to put across an sos without it being too obvious to him but it unfortunately didn't work & he murdered her pretty soon after. Maybe they didn't even have time to get things together to get her out of there. 😥
@princesstamika Yeah, but also there is a personal responsibility, you choose your own partner. I've seen too many bright young woman fall for the 'bad boy' (I can change him!) and end up suffering the consequences.
@Rob Robberson perhaps appealing to someone's emotions and not pissing them off is another form of survival for people who somehow had to survive the middle ages, eh?
@princesstamika if it comes to your own personal safety, you got all the right in the world to doubt. Sadly a lot of victims of domestic abuse stay at least some time with the abuser after the first abuse took place.
she looked stuck, like a part of her was making it a joke and the other part of her seemed so upset that that was her reality, she looked at him like she loves him but is also so afraid of him
@Andreas Schmitt Everyone seems to be completely ignoring the nuance behind such a scenario. Judging from what was established in the Christy Mack case, it's possible the woman may have simply been unable to escape her abuser, at that point. Perhaps she hoped that her companionship might have been enough to calm his abusive urges, and that trying to escape would have blown up in her face. How do you run from a mine you stepped on but somehow hasn't detonated?
You can see she throws a sneak peek at him too, indicating that she's checking for his attention on the subject. 10:30 That she has to check again at 10:38 indicates that no he's infact not paying attention. Judging by the speeding and how uncomfortably silent he got after she mentioned killing, he's trying to end this situation as quickly as possible. This whole clip's got red flags all over it but honestly who expects a gun?
I took it that she was terrified and she was holding it together, calmly leaving evidence (or if it was a live broadcast, hoping someone would call police on her behalf for help.) She knew it was coming. Like a victim of domestic abuse.
#OUTLANDISH educate yourself on abusive relationships before saying such inane shit. Abuse is cyclical and very traumatic. Most people come from abusive relationships (romantic or platonic) with ptsd. It’s never as simple as “oh she just likes abusive men.” It’s never that simple.
@Jennifer Bueller It's less to do with low self esteem than it is they are dating out of their league. They settle for garbage that is more attractive than them. That's also how they get into the "fix him" trap. They think they are getting a more attractive male at a discount. They have trouble leaving the relationship because they are correct, they can't get another guy at that attractiveness level. They only leave once they level honestly with themselves and date someone who is more on the same level as they are.
@Jennifer Bueller the fix it mentality,, is sad and dangerous,,, my mum was bullying me to stay with very erratic, angry controlling man from an army background so I don't stay single,, she didn't care that man made me feel scared,, she would just look at me while am struggling... No kindness or compassion in her eyes she didn't try to help I was supposed to fix him make it work.. He is your last chance that's what she kept repeating.
Absolutely, when people "joke" like this sometimes it's the only chance you'll get to save them. Keep your ears listening for stuff like this. Someone who married into my family was abusive toward a sibling of mine and change only happened when they tried to hurt my Mom one time when she was visiting, I don't even remember what it was about, I think she did laundry and folded it not according to their preference so they hurled a heavy fan right at her. This stuff goes on and you never know it happens, you've gotta grab onto any hint or clue and investigate before it's too late!
Jennifer Bueller also abusive men front a lot at the beginning and once they know they have you and you aren’t going anywhere they change into monsters.
@Sadie Hazel also, I wouldn't really go by people's "liked" video history since I'm sure I'm not the only person who is a premium YT subscriber and shares their account with my husband and 2 kids. Did you also think that I was big into minecraft or creepypasta? Funny, you didn't mention those from my search history. Just a note of advice: if you are so anti JBP and MRAs, you would probably benefit from maybe watching just one or two of their videos from their perspective just to see what their ACTUAL views are and not what you have been told that they are. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I like to know what both sides of an argument are. I also watch breadtubers and shit like that. Its called being informed. But you just pick and chose what u wanted to find that supported your narrative. That sounds a lot like what the MSM does. Weird.
I think the case with this Markeath guy took up too much of this video. He could have his whole own video, so I didn't really see the connection with the Andy B case? It felt like I didn't understand this video properly, can anyone be so kind and tell me why the other guy had almost half the attention in this video? English isn't my main language so maybe I missed some important information.
point of this video is how video is powerful. the line at 20:14 before the footage of officer dinkheller's death illustrates that. Brennan's inhumane execution of dinkheller doomed him. Markeith's inhuman treatment by the officers spared him.
This was a really good analysis. I remember first seeing that dashcam footage and feeling the same seething anger and contempt for Brennan as the jury must have felt. It surely was not the first time something so terrible has happened, but it might well be the first time there was evidence sufficient enough to provoke the empathy the situation deserved. I only wonder why I haven't felt the same way about any of the other terrible crimes I'm aware of.
That ex soldier's movements... so surreal to watch. Imagine having to teach yourself to walk through gunfire shooting like that with no regard for getting hit. Such a sad episode.
And than the fact that he wantet to get shot but than the ptsd takes over his Depression and he snaps back to Vietnam and the policemen didnt want to hurt anybody
I didnt watch the raw video so i cant say for certain. But the ex soldier might have counted shots or just knew that the officer was reloading his gun at that moment. In such situation he's completely safe to push into a more advantageous position to have a clear shot. He had a rifle which im guessing has around 30 shots in the mag, the standard issue guns police officers carried back then had 10-15 shots, officer would have ran out of bullets before him for sure.
Sadly, JCS announced a few weeks he won’t be posting any new videos on YT. This is due to YouTube unfairly censoring and removing some of his videos for no valid reason. Apparently, you can find more JCS videos on other platforms if you’re interested.
While the murders of innocent civilians is never a good thing, I do feel a sort of sadness for a man thrown into the front lines of war and returned into the tumbling hell of society without any sort of proper re-introduction or support.
Thank you, soldiers, for all you do for this country, and may you never go through this nightmare.
Sorry, around the 10:00 mark you attempted to use Social Learning Theory by Bandura as an argument that video increases aggression and this isn’t evidence-based, in fact refuted. Let’s get away from the silly argument decades old, otherwise MILLIONS of people would be violent
Funny thing I guess.. I watched the clip of the police officer getting shot by Andy B years ago. And then I had a completely different perception of what happened, had no idea he had such severe PTSD and was a Combat Vet. After getting the full context my perception completely changed. When I first saw that I was just disgusted by what happened in the video but now I totally understand how and why. What always was odd to me was how the police officer acted. He could have controlled that situation were he better trained and none of that needed to happen, Looked to me like he was on the opposite side of the car and not having the suspect in full view. And it's a hell of a thing to say but he should have shot him but i understand why he didn't, who wants to shoot someone in the head? Were he on the other side of his police car he could have shot a non fatal shot instead..
to a degree i dont even thing the officer was poorly trained; he was just trying too hard to spare andy his life. he didnt want to have to kill, but that exact feeling caused himself getting killed. its really horrifying.
@gamified He was poorly trained, it is very obvious from the footage. Not just because he didn't kill, but because he was unable to prevent the situation from tuening violent in the first place. He had no idea what to do when someone doesn't cooperate, or how to de-escalate a situation where the other person is getting agitated, and he outright panics and resorts to just yelling the same phrase over and over when the man showed he was armed, pointing the gun at him but not shooting.
None of these skills come natural, it has to be taught, but unfortunately many young officers are not taught these things and as a result the end up in violent situations that could've been avoided
“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.” As with the most of the vets from vietnam, they never really left vietnam. In their minds the war is still going. Really makes you think
@Swiggity McSwooty Voting absolutely does work, the "illusion" isn't an illusion at all, but meerly the fact that the MSM on both the left and the rigjt throw around propaganda for insert candidate here and since thr average american worker isnt going to spend their limited hours on researching candidates and thier policy campaigns and sifting through whether or not the candidates even believe what they are saying they do, they just vote for whoever the MSM props up or vote for canddiates specifically off what MSNBC or Fox tells them about the candidates
Stories like Andy's make you realize the true cost of living in a world where we can send young men thousands of miles away to fight wars they have no business being in. The man was guilty of murdering a police officer but were all a bit guilty of the circumstances that led to it. I hope both families find peace.
My last trip before the whole world was turned upside down by this covid thing was in Hue. I also rented a car and drove down to Hoi An. I took a walk through the jungle turned park in Hoi Ahn and saw the explosion craters left by the war discussed in this video. It's a true tragedy that not only did the Vietnam War left landscapes dented and ruined, it also left men like Lieutenant Andrew H. Brannan broken.
The stories told in this video (and the ones I know of) are all so incredibly tragic. A young mother died with child due to shallowness, a female cop for wanting to make a justified arrest, a cop on duty desperately calling out to someone to not harm him (or themselves) and a veteran from an unnecessary war who was shown no mercy at trial despite having severe PTSD. In this story, nobody truly wins, and it all sucks. 😢 I mean, my comment itself is unnecessary and is basically a summary but boy, this was difficult to watch.
My Grandfather told me of his friend that had to fight in the tunnels of the Viet Cong. He saw the bodies of soldiers and accidentally killed one of his own comrades. Haunted him for his whole life.
@Mythic We? Last time I checked it was the super wealthy and crooked politicians that make these decisions to send other people to fight their fights. It’s honestly the same with climate change. It’s “their” profits but when it’s time to face the consequences of sending tonnes of harmful gases into the atmosphere they pick up collective words like “we” and “our”.
@Smeaglekoff well,for starters someone elected that goverment,and if we are talking about america,those who love guns,bombs and military,are not few.There is a reason why the united states "solve" every problem with a war.People like it.So yeah,it is a collective responsibility.I am not saying that everyone loves war etc,and thats the only good thing for noe,but there are many people that just,do.
@Blooper Dooper its not a fault,it is a responsibility that unfortunately is some times viewed as a joke.But you get what i mean.You know what a political party stands for before you vote for it.Now i can understand that in USA there are practically two parties,so yeah not so many options to choose from
My grandfather went to war twice. When he came back the second time, he wasn't right. My mom was about in he 2nd grade. He moved his family out into a trailer with no running water and tried to become a farmer. He was abusive to all his kids and his wife. This changed by the time they all graduated high school. He got much better and was a great papaw to me by the time I was around. This as one could imagine had waves of affects to this day. He is the reason my mother joined the the army. This led to her disability and trauma, but also her career and marriage. She was able to lift herself out of poverty and raise her first three by becoming an officer. And she was able to raise me and my two youngest siblings comfortably on her retirement and disability. However, i can't help but think my own family would have never been torn apart in such a violent fashion if it wasn't for the affects of this same trauma and the way she was raised. At the same time, the army brought together my family. Its why pre-divorce my siblings (me and the other younger ones too, to some degree) were raised with such discipline, faith and drive. My parents also wouldn't have ever been together if if weren't for the military. Neither would my grandparents. My papaw met my grandmother in the early 50's shortly after ww2 in Nuremberg. They were both the first generation to come up after the war. On the other hand, the us government did kill my grandmother's father (unclear if it was intentional) in some sort of camp due to his social service to the German government. I suppose my family has a strange relationship with the military. Despite its various very negative affects, its also revered and seen as a very noble institution. It has after all done much good for us. I would figure that for a certain class of rural southerner who's family has lost very much over the past 150 years, the military is one of the only and most effective methods to move up the social hierarchy.
Indi G2021-09-03 04:05:18 (edited 2021-10-15 04:15:31 )
All those kids around him are taking orders from him, whether they live or die may very well boil down to a decision on his part. As a leader they look to him, he needs to keep it together for them. Officers get a lot of crap, but a good officer, is indispensable.
Z O2021-07-08 00:31:17 (edited 2021-07-08 00:34:20 )
Man this was a sad one.
He was not evil, but he did something really wrong. No winners only losers here. Can’t be happy that he got the death penalty, he was just a very troubled person.
After watching the intro, it's hard to condemn anyone for their crimes. I mean, they should be held accountable, but not by the U.S. government. It's like Ted Bundy punishing you for stealing a lollipop.
Would love a conversation with that eyewitness (in the beanie & red shirt). No reason in particular, my impression is just she seems like a lovely person to talk to.
So fucked up that a combat veteran gets the full brunt of the law, but that piece of shit who put bullets in a dead woman is still alive. Contrasting these cases is an excellent way to examine the complexity of the police system
Man, that is just terrible. The video is great as always, but the subject matter is just so heartbreakingly tragic. This was just a horrible situation for everyone involved, and it just makes you think.
I genuinely don't understand why there's a warning at the beginning. I've seen more shocking videos with no warning before on YouTube. I kept expecting to see gruesome footage and never saw any. I'm not complaining, i just don't see why this needs a warning, let alone a double warning.
It just doesn't seem much different, let alone worse, than the other videos on this channel, which don't have any warning
Now I see why YT asked me twice if I really wanted to watch this. The ending where the circle back to “joyfull music” to simulate the relative cluelessness and ignorance of mainstream culture. chefs kiss brilliant
R.I.P any person that has fallen victim to war. Those who died in it, those who suffer the consequences and take their own lives during or after and those who died at the hands of those unable to cope with their anger/sadness due to war.
That being said, America, stop your war loving ways. Fighting for your country is honorable. Being the agressor in most recent conflicts, dividing the world even further, is the main reason so many suffer from war.
Frankly, juries are jerks. They knew what that man did to his girlfriend, unborn child, made kids orphans and to that nice police lady. But still not giving him death penalty. And for Andy, they knew he is suffering from PTSD. Still, they executed him.
9:06 i’m sorry but what is that?😂😂 i’ve handled pistols only during my military service as a conscript so i’m not an expert but somewhat good but that officer is using a weapon in his work and that is the skill of his gunhandling...
Here is the full recording of Kyle Dinkheller's death. It is hard to watch. He was only 22 years old. PTSD is very real and I'm sure very tough to deal with. But to believe that this was only because of PTSD and his past is hard to believe. If you read into the court case on Andrew, there is a complete lack of remorse, with him stating that he killed the officer "because he let me". Nonetheless very heartbreaking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6z8q4lOrDU
A war that was caused by america and lost by america, the people that caused the Vietnam war didn’t lose though, the people that actually fought in the war are the true ones that lost.
And those good soldiers were then mistreated when they came home, as a whole, the American soldiers of the Vietnam war were first at war against Vietnam, then their own fellow people were at war with them, as if the noble soldiers had any control in their situation.
The American people and the American entertainment, government, and leaders were all in the wrong, and the people forced to kill were in the right, yet we found a way to make it seem the inverse.
“I was a racketeer, a Gangster for capitalism.” Major General Smedley Butler.
This is why I could never be a cop. Way too emotional I would have beat that dude up even more for what he did to that woman and the baby and the officer. I'm glad I'm not a cop but still don't think they should've been violent you have to keep it professional no matter how you feel. I can see the cops side but it was wrong
So im this white guy in his 30's that is listening to all video's on this channel via a headphone while working in the Netherlands. So during this video i was surprised why for the first time the first interrogation was so damn aggressive. The cop openly wishing the suspect dead and everthing.. so i take out my phone. Ah, its not a young pretty woman this time, but a black man. Forgot that this was a American case oir a split second.
"What are you watching?" "This video on YouTube... weird thing though, YouTube asked me twice if I was sure I wanted to watch it. Apparently it's graphic." "Oh, you're learning about Vietnam!"
It wasn't the Vietnam footage that got it age restricted, but the footage of the firefight between the vet and the cop, and/or the footage of the black man's injuries, I believe
I guess to our legal systems the life of a police officer is worth more than that of dozens of civilians, including woman and children. It’s certainly the pattern seen In sentencing.
A criminal, who killed a mother, a police officer, and an unborn child, is spared because some police officers were a little pissed off at what he had done. Yet a Vietnam veteran who had served this country is sentenced to death despite his PTSD. I’m not saying what he did was ok, and it shouldn’t go unpunished, but to see the irony in all this is sad.
When I clicked on this video, YouTube said it might be inappropriate and asked me to confirm if I want to watch it. Guess that’s why this is the least viewed video on the channel.
Butholetube says this is inappropriate... ah reality is always inappropriate the past is never to be forgotten keep it up I like this channel and you should offer voice overs for some other videos ah they are so hard to listen to....
Okay, it's insulting to say that the police kicked a dude that just dragged himself across a lawn on his belly because they were scared. They kicked him in the face because they were mad. Dude was a POS, but don't lie to my face and pretend like you thought he was going to Kung Fu all 20 cops. They beat him because that's what cops do when someone kills other cops. If he would have killed a civilian, the police would not have taken it personally, and that should really tell you something.
okay but regardless they were dealing with a threat, not only did he murder his baby mama and kid but a police officer. the fact you’re defending that sicko goes to show you’re a terrible human being.
@dylan innnal nobody is defending him. what they did was excessive and they only acted that way because i cop was killed. if ur trying to deny that, then ur showing ur bias as well
@dylan innnal The job of the police is not to exact street justice. This guy was permanently blinded in one eye, and if a civilian permanently blinded a cop in one eye, I seriously doubt you'd call that "a little harsh". The job of police officers is to apprehend SUSPECTS and bring them to the judicial system so their guilt can be established. This is not Judge Dredd.
@J Barnes yea he was permanently blinded in one eye, if you ask me he got off easy compared his baby mama and the cop he murdered. but i guess you’ll just ignore that part which is definitely a red flag for anyone that hangs around you…
i agree, 100%. it’s not about defending the defendant. it’s the fact that cops should not be emotionally driven in cases. when they fuck up and literally beat up the defendant before he can even go to court, that’s kinda the whole point of the video. Yes, he’s a piece of shit, but they’re still not allowed to use force on anyone in custody. Asshole or not, guilty or not, they’re not allowed to do that. y’all are missing the point
This is beyond beautifully made. The contradiction between the image of the vet we are given at the start and the image we perceive from the video is so vast that I had to watch it twice to even realize he was talking about the same person both times. You go from sympathetic to loathing in 20 short minutes. It REALLY does prove the impact video can have on us and is a remarkable analysis. well done.
@zZE94 he gives enough time between the two stories to where, at least I did, almost forget about his backstory by the end. That combined with the harsh and dark reality of the video really changed, again at least for me, my opinion of him. Maybe not hatred, but it without a doubt elicits a much different emotion compared to the start of the video.
@Ben Norton I understand what you mean. I, throughout the video did not even once forget about his experiences in the army and his PTSD. I guess I am more sensitive than the average person to things such as mental illnesses, I say that because I would've voted for a lighter punishment had I been in the jury. The prolonged periods of time when your own mind is not in your control no matter how much you want it to be is excruciating. I also think he probably found peace in death.
Love it like always, Jim. Guys, if you love this channel as much as I do, and if you have literally one dollar a month to spare, seriously SERIOUSLY give it to Jim’s patreon. There’s sooo much content (like this video) and its literally the best dollar you’ll ever use.
I'm sorry to hear that, it is very difficult. My deceased business partner's widow told me once that he would wake up every night screaming with night terrors. He was a Vietnam Vet. He saw many of his buddies die.
@msiali hhayads mate if you hear someone you dont even know personally went through a extremely scary war and had PTSD from it and is now dead and you say hes in hell, is reaching the lowest of lows
@msiali hhayads how about the 1.5million Armenians slaughtered in 1915 with millions more raped, starved and tortured. And now in 2020 Turkey and Azerbaijan still killing Armenians for land, 'religion' and oil. How can you condemn Israel's behaviour towards Palestine but commend Turkey for doing exactly the same monstrosities to Armenia? Sick. You dismay war unless it serves a purpose for you.
@msiali hhayads A LOT of the soldiers that fought in the Vietnam war were drafted. They had no choice BUT to fight, as refusing to is a felony punishable by a $230,000 fine as well as prison time. Those on the frontlines had to kill others in order to survive themselves, and many NEVER wanted to be in that position. They didn’t sign up to join the military, they were forced.
PTSD is no joke. I️ have it from far less than being forced to kill and seeing your platoon blown to pieces. Telling someone that lost their loved one to PTSD from a war they very possibly never wanted to be a part of that they’re now in hell is absolutely disgusting.
I️ don’t even BELIEVE in hell, but if there is one, you’re the one headed that way.
@msiali hhayads So you somehow think the genocides, concentration camps and torture would just end if wars were no longer fought? Thats a nice thought but not reality, violence is not a new thing in humanity and violence to the extremes you mention are typically only resolved with violence. You think someone never thought to just politely ask those people committing atrocities to stop first?
Everything I've read and seen about the Dinkheller case made Brannan look like a cold-blooded killer... having watched this, it really puts things in perspective. Brannan was a man standing on the edge of the abyss, and Dinkheller made the innocent mistake of nudging him. Such a damn shame.
I was going to say the same thing as the comment below; this must be a really good one, since YT had 2 warning pop ups! Lol. I've never had that happen before. Every now and then, I'll get that pop up, but never had it pop up twice! I'm very, very intrigued now. Lol. On to the video....btw, I better not have nightmares, or somebody needs to come protect me. Lol
First warning is by YT itself, 2nd warning is the normal age restriction which normally doesn't show if you're in a logged in account. The YT warning must trigger the community warning to also show
@nigela Ivanka Streegan Salazar it’s either everyone felt like being helpful. Or they really wanted to let me know how much he loved that Mercedes baby!
This is an absolutely beautifully made video, as well as all of the ones I've viewed on this channel. Thank you for your contribution to this website. Thank you so so much !
Straight to the comment section because of the youtube warning.. .....as I read them, I slowly find that the video I am about to watch might not be as great as I first thought it would and has more power in terms of impact on people than it does for pure entertainment
If it helps, here's your consolation prize: you ain't the only one out there who sees things the way you do. Here's hopin', one day it'll get better because of that fact. If not, here's t'good company and misery, friend.
They never do help our depression but I’m always thankful I’m not watching a crime show where I’m the victim.. stay strong hitchens as you’re not alone 😊
Something that might help is thinking about the message of this video. The message is that there's so much complexity to these events, almost always more complexity than what is publicly expressed. It's almost comforting to see these types of videos as examples for why we like to call the modern era the "Information Age." Just as we see neolithic cultures as societies reliant on stone, we see ourselves as reliant on information, and the use of information to make our society.
I don't know. I just like making these little rants now and then.
the good thing is the more people pay attention to what is actually happening the better our chances of transcending these tragedies we are responsible for what we choose to do... love and peace and thanks for another revealing video...
There’s bad things in the world and there’s good things. You can easily become submerged in the bad by focusing too much on the bad. Balance between them. There’s a time to watch cat videos also. Here’s a silly trick , even if you have no reason to smile force your mouth into a smile. Somehow this makes you feel better , if just for a moment.
I remember being a child and being shown the dashcam footage of the traffic stop when the local police did a visit to our school class. I was in the 5th grade. They showed us the footage as a sign of the unknown dangers they faced every day on duty but never talked about the story of Mr Brennan. Sad stuff all around.
I understand the atitude towards the man who killed his girlfriend and the policewoman. Oh my... he asked for medical help and didn't get it immediately, shocking... Of course he could kill people and not care about them but if he is treated badly all hell breaks loose.
Their job is supposed to be to keep their cool and do their job. They put that aside for their own personal feelings, which should be grounds for job termination. The point of the police is to demonstrate a peaceful society, not their own personal judgement.
@Izabela Izzy When police are allowed to have their own vendetta and pursue revenge then they are no longer police but a collection of organized thugs.
@LeadLegHighKick good question. The answer is probably because everyone generally acts in their own self interest and cops protect your self interest more than a unknown pregnant woman does. Killing a pregnant woman should also strip you of your human rights in my opinion though. Human rights are for people willing to participate in society not terrorize it.
@Zenyatta that's the whole point of a justice system is that it does not give the power of judge, jury, & executioner to the victim because obviously they will always go for harshest punishment. its as the saying goes the punishment should fit the crime. in the end we are all human beings and are deserving of respect no matter where our life choice has brought us.
@Zenyatta That mentality is why wars start in the first place. They both throw hissy fits and fight dirty because the other fights dirty. That's just greedy children being irrational. If you want a peaceful society, you have to show that it can be done peacefully. Otherwise you aren't better then anarchists.
Ok he did some bad shit and could had been put to death with the evidence, but the fact that the police couldnt treat him with the professionalism and humanity people deserve ( even if you think he didnt deserve it) and expect from public servants no matter how bad they are, they ruined that guys chance of a justifiable execution. Your innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, no matter the evidence the cops, investigators, or detectives have against you. If you are dealing with someone you know is guilty dont treat them like shit and act like an unprofessional ass. The guy that killed the woman cop could had had the death penalty(which he rightly deserved!) But by not being professional these cops ruined that. No matter how much they hate whom they arrested and how potentiallly gullty they may be, they need to maintain professionalism among other things so that dirtbags like this guy dont get off easier because they couldnt maintain their demeanor and professionalism. I am not defending Markieff I'm just saying justice was not applied in the way it should had been because these officers gave the defense the ammo. Can you imagine how this case would had gone if they had shown restraint and shown professionalism?
@Jim Sigs honestly you are pretty on point with this comment. Seems any more if your white your instantly guilty..especially if you are defending your self against another human who isnt white. Even though most people this day in age just see people as people and their crimes regardless of the color of their skin. If you commit a crime you commit a crime. It really doesn't matter your color! It's even been proven police dont police based on color based on stats. It sickens me that no matter what your color is the MSM and what not have to turn it into that if a black kid gets killed its nation wide news but a couple white kids or even asian or middle eastern kids get killed it's just no interest by our benevolent media. It's disgusting!
When you have someone in custody, you're supposed to be "in control" - if you're not able to maintain control in a way that doesn't needlessly hurt people, then the system itself shows a defect (in much the same way the murderer's aggression and impulse control was defective). And because the system is defective enough to cause extrajudicial suffering, it can't rightly be trusted to make decisions about imprisonment and execution.
@air breather Actually most wars start from pacifism. One side yields to another side which emboldens them into taking more and more until they become an aggressor that people have to fight a major war to stop. Once you let that momentum start, you lost. That's why many who serve always talk about the importance of diplomacy. Diplomacy is not sacrificing for temporary peace, it is fighting for lasting peace.
To take the analogy of LE to this situation. The concept of political correctness is what is allowing things like these riots and looting to go on. Even though several decades ago most Sherriff departments would not stand for that kind of chaos. They would intervene as soon as crimes started being committed. The act of establishing tolerance towards evil only propagates that evil.
@Dave Smith Let's look at WWII as an example. Were we attacked before we supplied troops and weapons to their enemies, or after? How about 9/11? Were we attacked unprovoked, or was that after we showed heavy presence and political push in the Middle East?
You're arguement falls apart considering we always have the first move of aggression. Switzerland was in the middle of WWII and remained neutral, profiting from both sides. Plenty of other examples that prove you wrong.
This emotional rollercoaster made me cry. It’s fascinating how you can watch a video analyzing human psychology - and end up learning about it from your own reaction.
I feel sorry for the guy. I suffer from PTSD, depression, anxiety and paranoia and every day is a challenge to keep going. People don't understand the burdens which these conditions bring. Especially for someone that went through what he went through in Vietnam
Marine combat vet, you contrasted the two perceptions on war perfectly in your opening sequence. I often find civilians tend to have a very naive, skewed, and twisted view on war and find it impossible to explain to them why they are wrong. A famous quote summarizes this "America didn't go to war, the Marines went to war. America went to the mall." The best way I can describe listening to civilians talk about war is to say its like listening to a 3 year old explain where babies come from.
I hate that Markeith Loyd wasn't fully brought to Justice because of the pain the officers were going through. They truly respected and loved their fallen officer and her contribution. And that love is what lost their justice.
Too bad, they should’ve been professional. “Love” has no place when you’re processing a suspect. The way those officers reacted was so pathetic and childish. It did nothing but make the police look like just another gang, engaging in petty insults and threats that did nothing but make them look foolish in front of the rest of the community. Contrast that with the Parkland shooter’s interrogation; much more heinous crime, but it was dealt with much more smoothly by the interrogation officers.
@George Rockwell were they unprofessional? Yes. Were they emotional? Absolutely. Should they have been the ones to handle him? Probably not. But it's still telling how much they loved her in their team. I wish things would've been handled differently to get the best sentence of justice possible. But cops are human too. And I'm sure this was a lesson the department learned the hard way.
It's still not right. It's still a bad look on the officers. But I respect their loss and pain.
The story about Andrew Bannon is one too similar and common with veterans, truly sad. Thai video brought a couple tears. And truly shows the difficulty and danger in a cop's everyday duties. Rest in Piece Andrew Bannon and Kyle Dinkheller.
Our gov't should be ashamed of themselves for the lack of empathy and care shown towards our veterans. They deserve a helluva lot more than what's afforded to them
Poor lad, he'd left too much of himself behind, cut too many "superfluous" aspects of himself off to survive. He was too young, too incomplete to be in that kind of conflict. Kid didn't compartmentalise, for him, it was formative. He wasn't even a person yet, and they done him too raw. Fuckin' dischargin' him 'n' not even properly carin' for him after they trained him into a machine of war. Poor family, poor officer, poor kid. So unnecessary.
That's your abusive and manipulative America! Use and abuse you and then throw you away like you are trash, because of course, you've served your purpose. Smh
@Frosti80 It doesn't look to me like much has changed. How many homeless vets are there in the US? Too many to count. How much of a damn does the abusive gov give about their PTSD? None! Look at all the soldiers that are coming back today and tell me, how much has really changed with all the education? It's so sad, just heartbreaking to see these individuals come back a wreck and most stay that way for life.
@Frosti80 Trench warfare had taught 'em enough, as far as I, personally am concerned. We've walked this path repeatedly, and you should always be aware of what is conveniant, and for who.
@Frosti80 For context, my family has been involved in every single one of these conflicts over the course of generations, I am the exception 'cause I didn't join the armed forces at 16 like Mick, who jumped out of aeroplanes, fucked his knees, probably shot and personally killed a fair few children 'imself, and now, even in his old age, keeps his knife tarred by his bedside, and throws his wife half way across the room in a fit of night terrors. He had the fortune to participate in both these wars we're discussing, as his father before him.
Jim, I watch your channel all day at work some days (I’m a day trader right now, taking a break from my psychological coaching gig, during the pandemic, who also has a true crime and psychology podcast).
I’ve got to tell you, you are one of the psychological professionals who seems to truly grasp the many and varied implications of disordered personalities, their various group and individual modus operandi, and the ways that their actions impact those around them.
Thank you for all of your informed and well produced content! You do outstanding work, my friend!!
I feel safe in comment section. I feel less alone. I wish we could just all live together watching and discussing videos like this, be just chill and happy.
This completely ruined my morning, just the whole thing. Service guy suffering, cops dying doing their jobs, Society not understanding any of it, killers that shouldn’t be alive, just all of it. Andy’s face at the end and him saying he wanted out, after all he saw doesn’t excuse what he did but damn, where would this country be without his sacrifice? He damn sure needed his meds, someone should’ve been there for him. What a world we reside…indeed.
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
This had me cuttin' onions ......one does not get "PTSD" from what one sees, but from what one does ..... put into a bad situation, or a series of bad situations, can bring out the under world in all of us, potentially ....... having never been to war as a former Marine Grunt, I can only imagine the horror ....... seeing what it does breaks my heart 😞
One of my favorite videos on this site. Hell, one of my favorite channels period. Everything from editing, script, points being made.... I haven't found anything close to what this channel provides.
It's... hard to say so and whatnot... but... Jesus Christ... when that Vietnam kicked in... that guy was invincible. It is unique and humbling... we have no idea what happened in the jungle...but we ... can see it here.
War should be a universally illegal thing, no exceptions. All the movies through the decades, while being masterfully made, do glorify war, make it seem romantic, heroic, even fun. Making entertainment out of something that is essentially an organized psychotic bloodbath. It' sucks.
@Purro Memes The glorification and promotion of it is not inevitable. What we can do is make wars much less likely. If ppl stopped living and acting like it's inevitable, stopped raising their kids in a mindset of conflict, we have some hope.
@JCS - Criminal Psychology are you guys on any new tech sites? just incase YT gives you problems at some point I'd like to still be able to find your video's elsewhere
Man dude I'm not going to read any other comments until I say this. WoW this was an amazing video to watch and illuminated the problem with vet's and society perfectly. We should expect our young men and women to go into battle like that unless we know we can take the correct actions to keep them safe when they've retuned. My heart goes out to all of the people ever put into battle for this and other countries. It's just disgusting that we live in a world where humans still believe killing other humans is the correct course of action for anything 😢
I can't believe he wasn't evaluated thoroughly before his trial. The vet was clearly disturbed and not in the right state of mind at the time. And as for the murderer in the example footage, that guy is a monster and should have had Andy's fate instead of getting a lighter sentence. He had intent and was actively evading arrest. I wonder why Andy's ruling couldn't be overturned and changed to life in prison or something similar instead of death due to more thorough evaluation of the proceedings and evidence after the fact. I feel so sad for all the victims families, no one deserves to lose a loved one.
Maybe he could have had the sentence reduced but didn't want to fight it? He was obviously suicidal, he wanted the cop to kill him and was happy when he was executed, I can see him not fight the verdict even if he had a possibility to have the death penalty overturned
This case resonates with me as Andy is similar to my father. He was the sole survivor of his squad, who was ambushed on patrol during Vietnam, and he never recovered from it. Eventually he committed suicide a few years ago after dealing with the trauma for decades. While I've seen my fair share of deaths from inner-city gang violence and lost friends in front of me when growing up, the barbarism described by my father and what was done to his squad was a step above that to say the least. I can't forget the violence and deaths I've experience and it haunts me still... however, I still cannot imagine how bad it is for many Vietnam vets.
This intro was incredible, hit home hard. And while I'm on it, this entire channel is spectacularly well thought out, and even better executed. This is the first comment I've made on Youtube in years, just because I'm blown away by the quality of this channel.
It’s amazing how the things you see can fully disable you. Like mental disabilities are crazy because it’s all in your head and you can’t do anything about it.
This was so sad. I feel sorry for both the officer and the war veteran. None of them deserved this but in life you can't change the circumstances. I really hope both RIP!
PS: I started with 'What pretending to be crazy looks like' and ended with this. A very nice binge watch session. I hope more great videos will be posted soon.❤💜
I’ve watched all your video except maybe two (that I am going to watch at a later time), but this video has by far been the most impactful. In a sense, the death penalty for Andy B. was the best sentence he could have received. In his last words, the ending of his statement said a lot about his mental struggle. RIP to the officer killed in the line of duty and RIP to the veteran that didn’t know another way out.
Honestly, this is one of the best editing vietnam intro's I have ever seen. With the explanation during the scenes...it just hits the right spot. The rest of the video also was great.
I can see this from all sides. I’d be absolutely filled with murderous rage if a fellow officer I loved and respected were gunned down in the street like an animal. But I’m also livid that these cops let emotion take over and became the same people they arrest and throw in prison and just completely get away with it.
@Suhani Arora At the end of the day, you are responsible for what you do. You should be held accountable and never put on a pedestal because no humans life is worth more than another.
@Mario id like to see your fragile little mind after witnessing the horrors of vietnam first hand.
yeah the guy killed a cop.. he also served his country (drafted to boot so didnt even want to be there), which resulted in him losing his mind. Maybe is the government took care of their soliders this would have been avoided.
@Mario He was held responsible for what he did. It's a sad set of circumstances, maybe fate if you believe it considering the officers circumstances. It's okay to feel sympathy for both of them.
@Mario For all you know, they may well think it, but that's besides the point, and you know it. He was held to account more than most in his position are
Agreed. This channel has grown and grown in popularity. I’m seeing memes about his channel on IG now. I’m sad this is the last video of his for me to watch.
These are really good videos and I've been bingeing (?) . I lost a good friend about 2 years ago to cancer from the napalm. I miss him lots. He saved my life more than once. RI Willie. Thank you
Also, the cop towards the end of the video fought well vs Brannan. If Brannan hadn't ducked he would have gotten his head shot off. He just lost to a very well trained active shooter.
Can we just fully appreciate the dude at 3:28 who didn’t even BLINK when that grenade fell. Just paused like he was mildly inconvenienced the same way a mum would be when rudely interrupted by her 4 year old.
We create monsters and then put them down because they act like monsters. This guy should not have been on the street. I don't care how well they thought he was doing.
He was not a monster, nor was he acting like one, in any sense of the word. From his perspective, and the world in which he was living in, his actions were not justified nor unjustified. He didn't even think about that; he wasn't living in the same world as the officer at that very moment. He was living in the past, and what he thought was happening. In that moment, his actions were a measure of self-defense brought upon by an episode of severe PTSD. It's sad, but it's true. We force people to kill, then shoot them when they come home in broken spirits, with broken minds. It's tragic, but inevitable. There can't be one side to a war, or else it's just massacre. But this... this war was needless turmoil. And for what? What did we all gain from it, what did any of us gain from it, other than our own night terrors, the deaths and heartbrokenness of our family members, and this? All the good I know that came out of this centers around this video, and documentaries like these. We know more about the mind now. These issues can be avoided far more in the future. But at what terrible cost?
That’s Florida to you. The guy was a kid sent into the meat mincer. Those who have never tasted the real bitter, gut wrenching sickness of the war cannot comprehend. Trying to play tough guy with someone who is obviously hurting. Something….
I couldn’t watch the end of this. Just so, so sad for all concerned. War destroys the minds of people, even if their body survives.
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Mark Arandjus2021-07-04 22:43:08 (edited 2021-07-04 22:46:19 )
Reason #542 why cops should learn de-escalation instead of yelling increasingly louder: The guy you're dealing with just might be an experienced and armed and borderline insane bornze star recipient.
Great video. Appreciated the sentiment - he did a terrible thing he had been taught to do by his country and then never received the help he needed. Shame on us for not seeing the human side of these men when we “welcomed” them home. Thank you to all of those who fought and lost everything in the pursuit of the freedoms I enjoy today. I salute you’re courage.
I just can't find it in my heart to feel bothered when cops kick the shit out of a man who just murdered one of their fellows in cold blood. shrugs Nope. Not bothered.
Yeah, he wants mercy after killing his gf and unborn child....and to top it he also shot a cop like a dog.....and still has the audacity to ask for mercy...
To the guy who replied and deleted his comment, no one called in and said he shot his family out of the blue like it didn't happen, on top of that when confronted by a officer he opened fire wearing a BP vest. I stand by the guys watching the house with rifles and them kicking him in the face to make sure he wasnt going to try anything, but then again I don't think you would have the capability to think outside your own perception. This wasnt a racist bunch of cops out to have fun, this man killed one cop already, they understandably do not want to die them selves.
At the very end I was super convinced that the song about to start was instead We Gotta Get Out Of This Place, by The Animals. It was very popular during Vietnam war, and the last quote from Andy B. looked like a pretty direct reference.
Man this story hits hard, he killed yet he was trained to do so.. they need to help the vets , i blame.him but same time i dont , something should of been done
On the pregnant girl and cop killer case, what the fuck that jury, i would not care if the police beat him to a pulp in front of a camera he was a cold blooded murderer what did you expect?. On the veteran story, man it's so fucking sad, he was deployed twice, condecorated for courage under fire, lost 14 platoon members at war, both of his brothers at home, severe PTSD from serving his country and ends up literally killed by the country he risked his life for, killed for and lost so much for. It's too sad man, makes me water up thinking it could be muy brother
It's the unfortunate situation where these vets were the war personified, so frustrations that were felt for the government and its actions, which is a faceless entity and any decision makers most will never personally encounter, are scapegoated to bear the brunt of the resentment.
Dude either the govt give him death penalty or a sentence thats equivalent to spending the rest of his life in confinement. Both are the same thing. Not like govt gonna just let him walk for all his years in service.
I think people find this so upsetting because nobody was at fault here, Andy B was not a criminal, he was a survivor, neither was the officer, where many would have shot, he didn’t. The state is perhaps to blame but only in an abstract sense. In the end all that is left is a waste of life and the unheard suffering of a dying man.
Why was this video posted a year ago, but the what pretending to be crazy look's like was posted a month ago and majority of viewer's reference that one as the one that started their binge. I'm confused on how that happened, anyone know?
He didn’t even play the full footage of the standoff between Andy and the officer. The sounds that come out that guy as takes rounds and realizes he’s going to die are legitimately harrowing. That much probably would’ve kept him from being able to post it at all though.
Talk about jennifer rosenbaum da in georgia intern, law student, running for county commisioner sought out former foster sister and killing her for karma
It's funny that I've seen so many interrogation on this channel and the interrogation was very professional all times but the two black guys I've seen. I'm not American but that's what I've seen. It's funny given their reputation.
Look at that firepower at the start and the war still can't be won. Shows the absolute futility of war and yet leaders still think they can just "have a go" at something the size and complexity of Afghanistan
That 90 second collage at the beginning of the video is tremendously horrific, and thinking about the fact that war is still real in 2021 is making me sick to the core.
The phrasing really makes you think. " Glad to be getting out of this place " , as if he was awaiting this for all those decades. I'm genuinely glad my father was a hippy and draft dodger.
War is hell. This is not an overstatement. The things our veterans endure are beyond the imagination of the average citizen. These men not only need, but deserve, the highest and best and most diligent physical and mental healthcare when they come home. I fully believe we need to implement systems that alert medical and mental health professionals, anytime someone does not pick up or refill a psychotropic medication, so they can do a home welfare check ASAP. Sending these people out into the community and hoping they will remember to take their medications, is a horrible way to function.
'prejudice against him' ..? no shit he's a two time murderer. i'm sick of this humanizing of confirmed killers. he didn't deserve medical treatment or his life
i dont support what he did, but how dare those officers do that. the prosecutor failed and justice failed. punishment is handed down by the court. not taken into your own hands
don't even bother trying to find similar channels. jcs is just on another level. the rest is just kids commenting over footage while here we get indepth analysis about humans and society
American police truly are absolutely awful. We see it again and again. How many true crime shows where it takes 10 years and a call from an informant and they actually allow themselves to be filmed as pasr of the show like they are proud that they got a call to tell them who did it. America films ( and releases) much more than they should. The rest of the world is embarrassed for them
Rafaela de Paula2021-07-02 01:32:02 (edited 2021-07-02 01:32:53 )
When I read americans on the comments saying "oh, our soldiers died on vietnam, how sad" for me that's relatable with the selfishness of some of the murderers that are only sad when they are going to suffer consequence, but not for the victim. I mean of course the soldiers, yeah, but US are the offencers! Vietnamese people are the victims!!!!!!!!!!! Can you AT LEAST include them in your sorrow?! Can you PLEASE start to care about the harm your government causes to other countries, other people?!
The pregnant woman then cop killer deserved worse treatment. I'm not going to feel bad because he got his feelings hurt. He's still alive, he took 3 innocent lives with no mercy, no pity, he deserves NONE
I’m sorry man, but I can’t finish the Andy B. footage at the end. The officer displayed great patience but the minute he went back to his truck and opened the door he should have been pumped full of lead. I already know the outcome and clearly the officer just simply missed his chance… but at the end of the day that’s a you or me example and I’m always going to pick me.
Thank you for having enough class to cut the last video short, found your content last weekend and I've binge watched all your videos. Contrarly to trashy shows like crime watch where it feels like they're gleefully enjoying the drama, you actually analyze and make it very interesting and instructive so thank you for that!
Addicted to this fellows voice. This is the last video that I see up on his home site and I’m raging that there are no more to see now. He has a brilliant narration style. Love it! Looking forward to lots more!
He had a part of him that was capable and willing to kill, and it got him through war. It brutalized him though as it insisted on coming back into the open once he was home, and finally it claimed an innocent person that he couldn't compartmentalize as "Just Another Faceless VC." He probably saw the man's name, family, and face in his mind every moment he was lucid after the fact.
If someone has to die from the state, he's probably the ideal unfortunately.
Well politicians who sent kids to those wars should be the one who sent to jail because there are causing all the harm to everyone and to both of sides.
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
My stepdad was in the war and when he would trip out I would sneak me and my little brother out the window in the middle of the night and run get help for my mom. The beatings and mental snaps got so bad that I ran away at 8 years old. I got so many horror stories of him ... War is horrible
As the great George Carlin once said, “The pain is completely buried under jargon, “Post-traumatic stress disorder.” I betcha if we kept calling it “Shell Shocked,” some of those Vietnam veterans might’ve gotten the attention they needed at the time.”
This is an especially sad story, and deserves far more views than it has. It's a startling reflection on our failings as a society, and how those failings tarnish the US system of justice.
We say we owe our lives to Vets but then treat them as invisible as dust when they come home. I can’t imagine, wouldn’t want to, and won’t be able to imagine the horror and violence of war. Americans don’t have an concept of war. I mean, all of those news stories about Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, hearing words like “bombs” “air raids”, i’m sure most of the casualties were civilians.
This is one of the best quality channels on YouTube and let me just say the narrorators voice is so legit and validating It just has to be a hired actor. If its the creator's voice well, then I am further impressed.
When he plays a sentimental love song at the beginning, you know it's going to be a tale of horrific abuse. Posted this before watching but I've just seen the War Machine one.
“I’m glad to be getting out of here” wow I mean that is so powerful. The impact of warfare on the human mind is devastating. He felt trapped in his head.
Made me think back to the hangman's monologue from the movie "the hateful eight" about the differences between vigilante justice ie lynching someone and the hangman hanging someone. Both have the same outcome but the difference being the unfeeling nature of the hangman becasue it is just his job and how that is the essence of justice.
People fail to realize that police officers are people. These ones are people who just lost a comrade. When faced with a suspect that not only murdered a pregnant women but also murdered their fellow police officer, I can see how things got out of hand. However, he deserved to get kicked more than once.
@The Silenced lmao your like “don’t like it? Tough.” Like what are you gonna do about it lmao
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The Silenced2021-07-17 22:17:28 (edited 2021-07-17 22:17:53 )
@Jerome B The question is, what are YOU going to do about it? I sure hope it's, "Grow up and learn that life isn't fair" instead of "try to pick fights online with people who couldn't give a shit about you."
I didn't see any negligence in Markeith's arrest or interrogation at all. I think the cops actually showed a lot of resilience. Me personally, I would've put the dog down.
Yeah, permanently blind in one eye and on his way to a life sentence or death row is perfectly fine. If you want to really get angry with the mishandling of justice, search Chris Dorner. Former marine and LAPD fired for not looking the other way on a partner cop kicking a innocent uninvolved citizen. This ultimately lead chris to a shootout with LAPD when he couldn't get his job back. It's a horrible story, but one that should be highlighted a lot more than it was.
I enjoyed the officers roasting marquith. Would have been better if the others didn’t beat the crap out of him though.... deserved it, but terrible policing.
Rofhiwa Tshikonelo To be fair, everywhere is suffering from Covid 19, Ebola is coming back, there are still riots in Hong Kong, people are still trying to recover from when Australia was literally on fire. I think your salt is a little misguided sir.
Idk why people needed to respond “Americans forget that they aren’t the world.” There was nothing saying that, you made that connection all by yourself.
The Amazon was on fire; the Notre Dame was on fire; Australia was on fire. Is it a coincidence that you’d have to swim to said places?
All I’m saying is that if Jim could swim, there would be no more fire, period.
I'm glad what's his face lost an eye. He had that and so much more coming for murdering that woman and THEIR baby and the officer. He only tried women, he's a clown.
As for the primary video, I had seen ans heard a little about the back story, but JCS told me so much more than any other channel. Top tier work 🤌🏽
the hard part is that the defense has to prove something never a good idea. (The defense doesn’t have to prove their client didn’t do it the prosecution has to prove he did it)
@Seemo Le Beats that one is all on the cops honestly. if they just kept their hands to themselves and did their actual job then he woulda actually got the death penalty.
@Ckopen well the problem I have is the guy who killed his wife was never getting the death penalty after what the cops did. The vet on the other hand I just can’t understand how any jury in America can’t understand this. It’s amazing how people who risked their lives for a war that was pointless and came home to why do you have ptsd what’s wrong with you I personally really am thankful for every vet and hope in the future this doesn’t happen again. The reason it’s so bad to me is no one ever asked why he did it because if they did HE HAS A MENTAL ILLNESS would’ve came up so not only did those 12 people but the legal system failed him
@Jade Lee yea I see it wasn’t talked about evenly but his lawyer should have stressed the question of why was this crime committed just as the prosecution stressed the video evidence
The entire video of Andy B murdering the officer was presented to us in a training video so long ago. I'll never forget the harrowing screams of the officer, and then the sudden silence after Andy fired the final round.
stories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme alot of it.
And the American Criminal justice system let that man live But the other Vietnam vet With ptsd and other severe mental issues was sentenced capital punishment... Both situations are just.. I dont know, crazy.
@poochyena i’m not saying police brutality is good whatsoever, but the fact that he’s complaining about a swollen face and a couple cuts, when he quite literally, mag dumped his girlfriend, then a few days later kills a cop and magdumps her already dead and mutilated corpse. so, i don’t believe he is in any place to be complaining. never said it was good. stop assuming the way people think on the internet, you’ll get yourself in trouble with someone some day.
@Silas R There is no excuse for the government to harm a civilian who poses no immediate threat and has not been found guilty of a crime through a fair trial.
That's what really pissed me off. Yeah, killing people is one of the most wrong things to do, but I think Andy shouldn't have gotten the death penalty, and the other guy definitely should have. The war vet at least did something with his life, regardless of how tragic it was. He did something for someone I'm sure. That doesn't give him the excuse to take life willy nilly though, and he definitely deserved to be locked away for at least several decades. The other guy however, blatantly had no respect for anyone, had shot his gf killing his baby and his girlfriend, shooting her brother trying to kill him, and then kills a police officer and continues to shoot her lifeless corpse just to make sure she was dead. Then cries when he is kicked in the face and treated like shit by the same officers that he would likely kill if he had the opportunity. Yeah, he definitely should have gotten the death sentence.
@FlymanMS The fact you decide to show him sympathy instead of the real victims is just mind boggling to me. Like actually crazy. I'm pretty sure understanding quantum physics is easier for me than rationalizing giving a serial killer sympathy for being beat up.
@PushinP That’s not showing sympathy, that’s just basic human decency. We don’t live in an “eye for an eye” society. Obviously this guy committed heinous crimes and there’s no excuse for it. However, the police are not there to carry out the punishment. That is the job of the judicial system. If he was resisting arrest, the police are allowed to use extra force to subdue; kicking him till he becomes permanently blind in one eye is straight-up assault.
@PushinP A) No, that's not "literally what I'm doing." If it was ok for the police to do that he would be sitting on death row right now, as explained in the video. Even if something is deserved or justified doesn't mean it is right, legally or morally. B) We can disagree but you don't have to disrespect me. We're just having a debate. I don't agree with your opinion but I can understand where you're coming from and I respect what you have to say. All things considered, I do agree that this dude is a POS and the outcome is fucked. I just prefer his justice to come via the legal system and his fellow inmates. It's a slippery slope when police get involved (as evident by this case and many more).
@PushinP it’s so easy to say this shit behind a screen. If I get taken in innocent and get the shit beat out of me because they “know” I did it then that’s one helluva “I deserved it” moment I guess. Yeah he did subhuman, unspeakable things but as soon as one guy gets his beat down and nothing happens because of it, everyone gets the beat down. Look at literally any sort of race based police brutality in the past year
@lucas sommers This was actually a way better argument than anyone else has presented me btw. Yeah, I would highly condemn the actions of the police officers if there was any doubt that he was the one who did it. But there is ABSOLUTELY no doubt in anyone's mind that he was the one who did it. Even he admitted it.
@lucas sommers hypocrite. Police is human and they are bound to have emotion. That's how human works. Easy for you to say when you have a peaceful life and not having to see your comrade dies. So police cant have emotion but a soldier with ptsd can? How do you know that the officers in years of contacting criminal doesnt have their own mental illness?
@PushinP not all did it willingly. Some forced. Some forced to answer the call by their families and had to leave the states to join for example. Not everything is black and white. There was a German colonel who was executed for plotting Hitler's assassination. Do better man. Stop having a narrow viewpoint. Germany and japan also forced people from other countries to fight for them. Like koreans being forced to fight for germany. Captured pow's forced to fight for either germany or japan. Not everything is black and white.
@taco stains listen, I’m not reading your entire thing because the thing you bring up literally hurts your argument. Yes, some German soldiers were forced to fight. EVEN MORE REASON FOR THE ALLIES TO INVADE GERMANY!
Like at least bring up something good Hitler did like re-stabilizing Germany’s economy or something. Don’t bring up something that hurts your argument.
@taco stains literally not continuing this conversation. When you continuously move the goal post and walk back your points then yeah, argument is easy as won. The thing is, from a military and political perspective, it was a very simple Axis=Bad scenario. You won’t make arguments baking up Hitler because you have a moral dilemma that I’ve presented to you there, and that in itself should prove you wrong
@PushinP I never moved the goal post. You are just building a strawman because you've been proven wrong about things being black and white. You brought up Germany and Japan. I brought up how a german colonel who plotted his assassination. Are you really trying to imply that trying to kill hitler is bad? What, you love hitler or something? At this point, you're straight up projecting about moving the goal posts.
Nice try, tho. I find nazis pathetic, but I'm not going to ignore those unfortunate from other countries who got invaded and then forced to fight.
@taco stains so, you saying countries were invaded and forced to fight is a counter argument to your argument and you don’t even understand it. You saying that there is no black and white and me asking you what the Nazi’s did that wasn’t black and white is basically me asking you what the Nazi’s did in the context of WW2 that was good. You then bringing up something that the Axis forces did that was negative, such as invading countries and using the POWs as their own prisoners. (which was actually portrayed in Saving Private Ryan) I’m just confused what you think your argument is, and please explain how my counter arguments are weak. Because it just seems to me like you’re lost and don’t know what words are.
@PushinP saying people from invaded countries being forced to fight helps my argument. It proves that not everything is black and white. You are saying people fighting in the German military at that time are all to be painted as nazis when that's not accurate. This is why your counter is so weak because it shows a great lack of reading comprehension on your side. Like I said, there is no such thing as black and white. We live in a grey world.
@PushinP the in h u m an e e x pe r i m e n t s t h e j a pa n es e performed on c hi n e s e and other c a p t ur e d people, helped advance medical science like how to treat diseases like malaria, dysentery and others foreign diseases to americans and europeans.
@PushinP I apologize for having to type in such a dumb way, but it's the only way it allows me to get around YouTube deleting the comment over and over again.
@taco stains That is DEFINITELY not my argument. See this is why I just dont think you're capable of having a conversation. My argument is that there is almost nothing the Nazi's did as a governmental body that can be considered good during World War II. I am fully aware that conscription forced lots of German civilians into the fight (Which conscription was introduced in almost every single country at the time of World War II) and they used POW's to increase their military power. These are things that I am fully aware that the Nazi's did in World War II, and my argument is 100% not what you think it is. You dont say how your argument helps you at all, because it actually helps my argument. Clearly my reading comprehension skills are not being tested here.
I also just wanted to say that me saying, "Nazis" instead of "The Germans" actually further goes to prove that I am not overgeneralizing when it comes to the average German soldier. I am actually ethnically German so I try my absolute hardest to not do that.
@PushinP oh now you switch it to government body. The government body funded experiments that advanced science. Proving my point not everything is black and white. Try again. Stop projecting about not understanding arguments because its obvious you dont understand yours.
I think if policer officer where wearing heavyer bullet proof armor ( bullet proof shoulder guard, bullet proof helmet, bullet proof leg guards ) then she might be alive today.
@My Playlist see i really like this comment because you talk about what needs to happen, REFORM, not abolition, not hate, not defunding, nothing but trying to make the system better.
@dismiss yourself honestly if there's overwhelming evidence. that shows a man killing his pregnant girlfriend and a cop, with no remorse or care. The cops being really mean to the dude and roughing him up a little. shouldn't influence the jury to give him a lesser sentence. The fact that the jury didn't give him the death sentence, because the cops treated him poorly. Shows how corrupt and flawed are judicial system is. the only thing that should have been talked about in that trial. was the murdering of his pregnant girlfriend and the cold-blooded killing of that officer and the fact that he had no remorse for or care. Not some b***** attempt to turn the killer into a victim like they did. I mean what is that.
Did you even watch the video? The black dude who killed three people didn't get the death sentence, the white Vietnam vet did for killing one person. Cute race card.
You should have mentioned the girlfriend's masked plea for help when she's trying to smile complaining about her BF's reckless behaviour... her eyes going to the side for a split second twice but each time the smile suddenly disappears and her expression is of that of real fear and terror. Anyone noticed that?
Yall can hate on this, just remember where does it stop when it begins. Say your false accused what if someone kicked you in the face several times on the ground. Murderer or not these cops got away with beating the hell out of that man
I remember seeing that clip of a police getting shot dead many years ago. The officers screams chilled me and is absolutely horrifying. I don't recommend anyone checking the full video out. It's too real.
Why the hell did the cop LET him do that. Okay I'm gonna sit here and yell "get back now!" And watch you assemble your m1 carbine and load it and then shoot me with it Do SOMETHING man. He's obviously not going to listen to your commands
@Bearcat Ben yes. I understand he didn't want to kill him, I don't think most people would want to But it's not about what you want. It's about what you need And that officer NEEDED to do something different. Cuz now he's dead
@Seth Johns I explained why he couldn't do what he needed to do to save his life because he thought he would be able to defuse the situation and help someone with mental illness
You are completely right in saying the video emits an emotional response, but in all honesty, it allows us to understand the aspect of the shooting opposed to being verbally told about it briefly, as I am sure the defense would have liked to keep as many details out of the final statement as possible. That video truly makes my blood boil. To you, Andrew B, I say rot in hell.
I was traumatized by the final video when I first saw it. I’ve seen plenty of crazy footage but nothing ever hurt my psyche more than hearing that poor mans voice before he died. I’m glad you guys didn’t show that whole video. I really didn’t want to hear that again.
I could only imagine how everyone involved must have and continues to feel to this day. Tragic is an understatement.
Dude of all interrogation, thought processes and more. You have far more incite and pull the sense of interest leaving us wanting to see more of your videos. Please keep it up.
I watched that last video of the cop shooting several years ago and I was scarred. Truly horrific. But now knowing the context of Andy B’s life, i don’t think I can form an opinion. The video is horrifying Bc of the screaming and imagery we see as regular citizens. But if that was horrifying, imagine what Andy B saw while serving for the US in Vietnam.
Assuming they don't, I think recruiters should share this story and other similar stories to kids thinking about joining the military to let them know some of the negative sides to serving. They inform people with positive effects so it's only fair to tell them the negatives. Especially at times of war.
omg. i remember taking a communications class in school and my teacher showed us the clip of brennan ( the one towards the end, the police video where he was dancing) but without any sort of context . i don’t remember much about her lesson unfortunately, or why the video was part of it but that was the first time i had seen it. just seeing everything and why it happened the way it did here in this video makes my initial perspective totally different from mine now just having finished watching this. i don’t know what to say except i feel some sort of clarity now 😟
Insanely well-structured video. When it switches to talking about the Markeith case, I was thrown, but damn if he didn't take it right back at the end. Gave me chills. Well done.
Oh no... I didn't recognize the name, but I'm kind of glad I checked google for some background first because I know the video they're talking about and it really is disturbing as anything you'll ever see. In my opinion, it's frequent use in police training is a major factor in why they get some aggressive so quickly for any and every reason. It's less surprising how insane they behave when their operating framework is this absolutely nightmarish scenario.
The Army does the overwhelming majority of ground, house-to-house, fighting but the Marines get all the camera time. People don’t realize how much smaller the USMC is and that they make up a very small portion of ground troops.
I’ve done two tours as an infantry team leader and am also 100% service connected disabled for PTSD.
Thats exactly the point the video makes. The interrogation footage saved the criminal, that if people would have only heard about mistreatment by the police would not have been impacted as opposed to seeing the guy beg for medical attention. On the vet side, the dash cam footage was so damning that it afforded him the death penalty.
Part of the point of the video was that the jury was made EXTREMELY repeatedly aware of the mitigating circumstances, coupled with police brutality (whether he deserved the beating or not is irrelevant). And it added up to him getting to keep his life. If the police hadn't beaten him so badly as revenge (a beating that was evidenced with injuries on camera) he might've been viewed as more of a monster, less of a victim, and given the death penalty. I don't wanna sound aggro or like I'm belittling, but that was a huge point of the video you missed. I thought the comparison of differences between the cases was the entire point...?
@Supreme Buffalo The point of the video is that film influences juries to such a degree that a serial woman killer's life can be spared while a mentally ill Vietnam vet is sentenced to death. Had film evidence been absent, the reverse would have happened. That was the point.
@Xaro Xhoan Daxos You're paraphrasing my point. It reads like you're correcting me, but no. You see that part where I said "...jury was made extremely repeatedly aware of the mitigating circumstances" I was talking about the same film footage as you... I know I only spoke of the beating, but the aftermath was recorded. My bad. I assumed people could connect those 2 dots themselves. I didn't spell it out. I'm sorry. I'll be more careful in future, I promise!🔮
@Supreme Buffalo For what it's worth I understood your point perfectly and I agree. I think maybe the other person simply replied to the wrong comment.
@Krabbenburger you have a point, its easier to assume stupidity is the driving force behind any incorrect action 🤣 better than it being intentionally misguided, anyway.
@Wynn Wynn that’s not the point. The different outcomes were not due to gender differences, but what was shown by video caught of the suspects actions. I am nearly 100% sure that if video was instead shot of the man killing the woman officer then he would have a much harsher sentence
@kotsoteka depends ofc, that's why "one could argue" ofc for markeith life in prison is not so good.. for Andy b, prison would've also been bad, because, from his point of view.. he just wanted out, he was just... He wasn't ok, at all, its horrible, if it's PTSD from home abuse or from war, PTSD is PTSD.. and in Andy's case.. it was just horrific what he saw.. he literally saw his leader turn to confetti like...
DID YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO.. AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW VIDEO EVIDENCE CAN HELP A CASE.. WHETHER YOURE THE DEFENDANT OR THE COMPLAINANT???? look at it again.. especially when they cut to the M. Lloyd case.. sheesh..
This was a tough one to stomach. Being a lifetime officer tasked with the safety of an entire agency of officers and an ardent supporter of military troops, it's just painful.
@A D This guy knows his stuff. Some of it is just second nature due to the repetitive nature in dealing with these folks, but there's also a lot that can be learned from it. I'm not so dumb as to think I know all there is to know, and I'm not so arrogant as to think we're always right, either.
Damn I can’t believe he went BACK into his car, & the police didn’t do anything. Most times, if they person rushes the police, he at least gets tased. But he rushed him, AND went back & opened his car door & reached inside? & the cop STILL didn’t do anything??
My grandpa was a Vietnam veteran, and suffered from PTSD. He abused the hell out of my grandma, and probably my dad as a kid/teenager as a result of it (grandpa got pregnant at 16 and dropped out of high school). My parents told me I only ever met him once when I was a newborn, and then he died. I saw a photo of him and my grandma on their wedding day, not knowing it was them, and said "who's this monkey looking man in the suit?". My parent's/grandma don't really talk much about him, so I have no idea who he actually is.
Andy lived a tough life. No human would be sane again after getting back from war then slowly losing everybody he knows. The government expected that the veterans would be normal the next day they went back to society. This is a sad story
I'm enjoying seeing all of this channel's videos. This is one, is the most sad I watched. Three people dead. Two for no reason and one was just doing her job. This world sucks! Thx for the vid anyway !
The American War against the Indochinese people was horrifying and a waste of lives and money... Rest in peace to the thousands of dead Americans, and the millions of Indochinese who died and who still die from all the undetonated bombs to this day.
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More than just thousands. The South Vietnamese who allied with us lost 200,000 to 250,000 lives because of the Soviets and North Vietnamese. If it weren't for France and Russia, most of the lives lost there would still be here today or at least lasted longer. France started the first Indochina War which led to the Second Indochina War (Vietnam) just so they could keep their colonies that ended up going away anyway. Russia invaded Vietnam and helped start an invasion towards the South, which led to the rest of Indochina being feared to become Communist which further led to US involvement towards stopping that. Overall it was the faults of many, not just the US. The US wasn't even fully involved until around a decade in.
This is just...tragic. Usually I have little to no sympathy for the people features in these. Maybe a little bit for that guy in the one video who got pushed to the ground and then shot...but for the rest of them, no.
In this case, my god, this guy was crazy AF and he even had sought help. I feel for everyone involved - the victim, the perpetrator, the families. What an awful, awful event.
This is exactly why you can’t assume someone’s mental well-being or assume everyone is neuro typical it’s beyond heartbreaking RIP Andy I hope you’re at peace now 💔
What a sepulchral tale all round, the soldier was clearly sick, a true victim of war, to that end a venerable character, they commissioned him and taught him how to kill, how do they repay him, ironically they commissioned his death!! What I find equally sad is scrolling through the comments, and people write, and I quote "I have watched all the videos what do I do now" without having given thought or sagacity to what they have just witnessed!!! got to love the human race:)
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13:12 - RULE 1: NEVER ATTACK A POLICE OFFICER ! --- 13:28 - IMO the cops had every right to do that, the criminal never stop firing at her !
Andy’s story is a tragedy on every level. But I can’t help but feel he wanted to be at peace in the ground as soon as he returned from the states. PTSD is a fucking bitch.
and when he said something like “die bitch” he was clearly trying to make him look as good as possible, and i think he shouldn’t have been put on death row, but i think the last moments of the altercation probably are why the jury reached ir
Ok now that I'm at my last video wath can I do with this addiction ask Jeff to get detained again or wait to see how Casey's day care goes 🙃 I can feel the withdrawals
I'm not so quick to sympathize with Andy B. Why'd he stop taking meds he clearly needed? I've looked into it myself and heard claims he was stymied from obtaining his meds which could be believable give the shitty state of the VA in those times. However the only real evidence I could find is an incident where he simply stormed out of the pharmacy after getting into an argument with another person in line (not the pharmacist himself) and had a history of repeatedly ignoring/not taking his meds. Sounds to me like he wasn't serious about getting better and sadly someone else paid the price for his nonsense. That said I don't think he should've been put to death and it's screwed up that the jury didn't get to hear the whole story as his medication was never touched upon during the trial.
Many people go off meds for their mental illness BECAUSE of their mental illness. Medication doesn't magically fix them, and even medicated people sometimes lose the frame of mind to continue taking it due to the debilitating nature of certain disorders. It has nothing to do with "not wanting to get better", and more so to do with them losing the capacity to be rational or reasoned with because they're sick.
Pretty weird on mobile YouTube takes away the share button on some videos. You can still share it by going onto the channel list of all the videos, but can't share the video on the video itself. Thanks youtube
Given the circumstances and context it's understandable.
This suspect was in a police chase and was firing at this officer while driving. The officer then noticed the path he was taking was leading towards an elementary school, so the officer raced behind him and started firing. At one point both were actively shooting each other, the officer windshield shattering spraying glass all over the place. The officer landed a good hit and the suspect crashed head on to that bulding(I think that's the school).
Like, you have the officer in intense adrenaline driving and shooting on suburb streets dodging cars and shooting the suspect. You can find the video posted on YouTube by Las vegas police.
Trying to load it backwards I get because you're not focused on the direction of your magazine, but actively switching to left handed carry when you're a right handed shooter and tilting it forward before trying to finger in a new magazine? Nah, no excuses. That's just dumb as fuck and gonna get you killed.
to walk point - to assume the first and most exposed position in a military formation, especially as a leading soldier of a unit advancing through unsecure territory.
So this man killed 3 people (4 if you count the baby) and the lawer said the cops didn't like him? So your telling me this man can kill my your or anyone's mom and no one is going to be mad or angry thats such bullshit. To the lawer how do you feel trying to get a murder get away with everything I bet if he killed someone you loved then I don't think you'll help so much.
Yet people wonder why Police carry rifles these days. Sometimes, no amount of talking or patience will matter. Sometimes a person can be so far gone and so lost that they will commit to tragedy and there is only one way to stop that. Especially if a person as mentally damaged as that can obtain firearms. Thankfully the vet didn't lose himself like that in a large crowd. Sadly, his own country failed him. Unfortunately these things happen often and good people die as a result. It's sad
This is a devastating and tragic representation of the mental health crisis in America that has persisted from the very beginning; catalyzed by bloodshed, warfare, and greed, whilst our government and society only respond with neglect, stigmatization, and incarceration in the luckiest of individuals.
Given the circumstances and context it's understandable.
This suspect was in a police chase and was firing at this officer while driving. The officer then noticed the path he was taking was leading towards an elementary school, so the officer raced behind him and started firing. At one point both were actively shooting each other, the officer windshield shattering spraying glass all over the place. The officer landed a good hit and the suspect crashed head on to that bulding(I think that's the school).
Like, you have the officer in intense adrenaline driving and shooting on suburb streets dodging cars and shooting the suspect. You can find the video posted on YouTube by Las vegas police.
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@Okay M8 I honestly really doubt it, considering how miserable he was when he was "free" Why would a man like that even be in prison? He belonged in a mental hospital not a correction center
@Okay M8 Considering a functional mental facility puts the well being of its patients as a priority, whereas the american prison complex puts all its emphasis on slave labor, i'd say so, yes
@nick GURR Same, I've watched a lot of really fucked up videos on the internet in my day, but this one is up there only because of that scream. Not sure exactly why but its worse than beheadings for me.
Yeah i can hear it without watching it even having seen it some years ago. Weirdly more memorable then anything i ever saw or watched on bestgore as a morbidly curious teenager
I live in Orlando, Fl and remember the arrest of Markeith Loyd vividly. A few people were caught driving by cheering while local news stations covered his arrest. It seems unnecessary to kick a man in the face after he had already surrendered. Especially with enough force to permanently damage his eyesight. I definitely think the cops let their emotions get the best of them. I do believe Markeith is a very disturbed man. He doesn’t seem to understand the magnitude of his actions and how absolutely heinous they were. He also claims in both murders that he’s the true “victim”. Just listening to his reasoning during the Dixon trial makes me believe he’s genuinely delusional, it’s pretty disturbing. He was found guilty for the murder of Sade Dixon and now awaits trial for the murder of Debra Clayton.
I don't know, I guess without looking into his mind we can't know for sure if he's really not at fault or if he's a monster, but either way I don't think there's a place for him around other people after what he did. Delusional or not he's still clearly shown how dangerous he is and that he can't be trusted to function in society.
"...serving along side them and who in fact conducted the majority of the fighting on that day, was the 23rd Division of the US Army with Alpha company leading the attack and with a single platoon acting as the spear. Taking point for that platoon meaning he would be the first into a firefight was 21 year old...."
Whatever he did wasn't his fault... it was the US Government's. If you take a young man in his formative years like that and have him lead an entire division into the jungle, you take on the responsibility for what you make of him. Best you give him everything he needs to re-acclimatise to society or you best not send him at all.
Here’s the thing, I have absolutely no sympathy to markeith and he deserves his punishment. HOWEVER, we have see on this channel police treat mass shooters and murderers with calm regard bc of their training yet they didn’t do that in his interrogation or arrest which is highly unethical. And the system failed Andy B., he needed help, not the death penalty.
That's because he killed one of their friends, not someone they don't know, a kind harmless woman at that, there's not many human beings who have ever lived who could show sympathy to him in those circumstances, I actually thought they treated him well all thi GS considered, they could have really put him through hell if they wanted, even killed him and covered it up
Good Police will react in a way that’s determined by the threat they’re taking on. Markeith was more of a threat to the police than Cruz. They still messed up in the interrogation by assigning detectives that were emotionally involved.
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This one shook me to the core. I'd seen the video of the officer many years ago, this was the first i learned of the actual back story, in depth. Which not only shows a man severely damaged from PTSD, but also shows the brain washing, the indoctrination, and the actual programming to kill. The meds prescribed only treat symptoms, this programming stripped the actual moral/humanistic traits of this man at a very young age, that never goes away. They created an expendable automaton out of this man. I have no words for either case, as they're both beyond tragic, I'm just rendered speechless from the unnecessary loss of lives, and the suffering of so many that loved them.
That has got to be among the most unprofessional interrogations I've ever seen. It's really hard to watch. Considering Lloyd lost sight in his eye, I can't really tell who the monster is in that room.
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Wow. Andy acted against Kyle as if he was taking back on him for not relieving him from his life. I feel sorry for both of them,hope they are some place better...
@Niall-Julian Watkins that's the thing. A murderer got away with life sentence but an Vietnam war veteran with extreme psychiatric disorders was sentenced to death. He fought for his country but was rewarded with insanity and death for it.
@Judgmental Crow I understand the poetry of it but I'm not being poetic. He murdered someone and got the consequence of that action. It weighs heavy on my heart as well I'm an army vet who was also a cop so I get it
this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
It is tasteful that Kyle’s scream wasn’t included in this video. That scream is unlike anything I’ve ever heard before. I still shudder thinking about it.
yeah, my dad told me he screamed after getting shot and i was waiting in suspense to hear him. Glad i didn't because it prob would've ruined my night tbh
I was not prepared for that. I feel as though my skim is pretty thick but listening to that brought tears. I understand that cops are not seen in a positive light, but that was one brave man. He tried to give andy so many chances and it cost him life. Do not watch the original. It just hurts.
@Unpopular To Be Unpopular I walked past a man who was cut in two he was trying to grab me asking for help but we ignored him its late and plus the shelling continued. I was more shocked at how he was still alive. So no the screams of the policer didn't bother me. I have a opinion on why this officer was killed but people will say I'm using the race card.
@Ramy Camel The comments on that post are upsetting. "Execution was too good for him.", "A total piece of shit.", "Should have killed him sooner."
If I had seen that first I may have the same feelings, but knowing the full story blurs the lines. His act was heinous, obviously, but his actions were because of extensive psychological trauma caused by his service. He didn't want to be a malicious human being. He didn't kill that officer because he was a "piece of shit". He killed that officer, because he had severe PTSD.
I didn't watch the video by the way. I've seen some fucked up shit throughout the years, but I don't think I wanna subject myself to that. I watched a dude shoot himself in the head once, saw a guy's head get lopped off by a helicopter, I've seen tons of people fall from high places to their death, I've seen people get hit by trains and cars, and the list goes on. Usually my morbid curiosity gets the better of me and I'll click a link if someones talking about it. But there are 2 videos I haven't watched out of all the things that have been presented to me. 3 guys 1 hammer (two guys murdering a man with a hammer) and this video. And I don't plan on watching either of them.
@grandma police officers treat black men and white men differently. That's why that officer was killed. When they are dealing with a white person they believe they can talk them out of dropping their gun. But a unarmed black men are killed holding a cellphone. Watch the video of the young guy killing a police officer and injuring the other, they had no clue even tho his roommates told 911 he's armed and angry.
That is a deliberate misrepresentation of the actual attitudes of police officers in the field and you know it to be.
Police officers are shown videos like this multiple times during their training, and see them pretty constantly in the circles that they frequent, and they know that if they give a suspect too much of an opening while they are armed, it is very possible that they themselves will be shot. It is a personal choice on their end to extend an olive branch and offer the person a chance after they have already drawn a weapon, but in most cases that chance is only offered if there is some form of cover or concealment between the officer and the suspect behind which the officer has taken a position already, and the suspect does not have the weapon already pointed at the officer.
This is why the officer in this video gives the man multiple chances to drop the weapon. The weapon is not pointed at the officer, and the officer has multiple obstructions between himself and the man with the gun. This means that in order for the officer to fire on the man accurately, the man has to stick himself over the truck or move out from behind the truck and present a target, and the officer cannot move forward without a severe risk of death unless this becomes the case. With a single officer on scene, this presents a standstill, stalemate position where neither the officer nor the suspect can move without getting shot. In this position, the only thing that the officer can do is attempt to negotiate with the suspect for the weapon to be dropped.
You have bought into your own political garbage too much to actually think these things through.
@kyology_y i understand. If that is true it still doesn't take away his patience. While I disagree with cop hate, i do understand the mindset. If you think about it though, isn't upsetting that he's so afraid to get in trouble he won't defend himself properly? Things are more complex then they seem but both parties are victims.
@BrokenGod Ent. Your right. The way i see it, people always have to go to one extreme or the other. People are more complicated then that though and it's ok to see the sadness in what happened to BOTH of them. On the subject as a young kid i did watch 3 guys 1 hammer. Its awful but it taught me a valuable lesson. There is a clear difference between a criminal of circumstance and a genuinely evil person who enjoys the killing and suffering of others.
@abdi libaax Ok i mean no disrespect to you but your just plain wrong. It's not police that treat different races better or worse, its the individual. It's not right to generalize all cops that way when each individual has different levels of training or beliefs. There are awful prejudice people everywhere and cops are no exception. You will have your racist cops just like your racist gas station employee. For every one of those, you have 5 more you never hear about because they do the job properly.
@abdi libaax I was thinking the same thing. And while it's all tragic. He was able to get out of his car, dance around, yell, and actually go back to that car and pull out a weapon because he was white. I know POC wouldn't have had a chance. Not only was he a white man, but he was a white man with a dog. And I know how yt ppl ESPECIALLY feel about their dogs.
thoughts on other comments: I don't care about whatever previous incident this officer had, when has that ever stopped any of them? Not to mention that he shouldn't have been on duty if he had pending charges against him for his use of force.
@BrokenGod Ent. Maybe I'm being reactionary, but I have no sympathy for a murder like this regardless of mental illness. I'm normally against capital punishment, but a humane execution in this case seems like the best course of action
@Ramy Camel wow I must be horribly desensitized from growing up on the internet in the late 90s and early 00s because that didn't even phase me, and all these comments about being scarred for life.
@Kain-loc wtf do you want him to do, have a pleasant chat with the lunatic dancing in circles and then holding a fucking rifle in his hands? He has to try to gain control of the situation.
@c c its more disturbing than anything because theres no blood and they don't the officer actually getting shot. The audio part of the video is truly horrifying as you can literally hear him take his last gulp of air... :(
@c c hi! it is not that bad unless you are heavily influenced by pained screams. they are definitely cringeful (in a spooked 'oh god' way) but weren't as bad as you think. there are two moments where he really does scream in the way explained, so be wary. no gore seen though. just gunshots, car windows shatterting, and screaming from the cop.
@BrokenGod Ent. I'd agree with empathizing if he pleaded guilty and didn't drag the whole thing for 17 years before it was over. That was not the case, Andy executed the man personally, thoroughly, and seemingly very lucidly, tried to run away from this, then still tried to slip by in court. Thankfully, he failed.
@Solaire of Astora this is one of the wisest fucking things I have ever read in the hell scape of walnut brain takes known as the youtube comment section. Thank you for taking the time to type this out.
@Kain-loc It's very easy to judge a situation like this from both safety and hindsight. Maybe have a little more perspective before you lay your hardline stance down.
@c c just watched it. i thought i could handle it, as i had seen people die before and listened to gruesome audios but...that scream. it’s burned in my brain. it’s so fucking terrible.
@Roe Jogan murder is murder. I'm all for the mental health issues being prevented in the first place but at some point there is a line. Edit: The second part of the Real M&M's comment below this puts it better than I did.
@BrokenGod Ent. thats what I dislike about this video (the one on youtube) I am all for mental health awareness, but no mental illness excuses heinous acts.
We can acknowledge as a society that we failed veterans and other mentally ill people, we can even take some if the blame in that way, but I don't think this man should be framed as a victim necessarily.
@j lew From statistics it seems the complete opposite. I don't know where that myth comes from. In real life cops are more likely to use deadly force against whites. They do use non-deadly force more against blacks. This case is clearly the first one of shooting dead. News and media really distort the truth.
Spent 2 years of my life in Afghanistan. It's like an odd dream you can't wake up from when you go from life where every single waking moment can be your last, to being forced back into society and expected to just be, normal, like nothing happened. It feels like a distant dream, but it also forces your daily life to feel equally like a dream. What's real anymore, other than the pain.
@FlymanMS he literally ducked and I'm pretty sure that bullet missed him by a few inches if that and shattered the window behind him. He was a good fighter, god damn. I feel so bad for them both. RIP.
I just hit the thumbs up. I was exactly the 100,000th person to do so. :First time since I've been on YT for that one to happen. 10/24/2021 3:34AM EDT.
After seeing Markeith in distress after having killed his pregnant fiance and an officer I have no empathy or sympathy. The police officers should have let the court serve justice but one of their officers got killed, it hurt, so emotions took over. Hope the police officers never got charged. At least Markeith still got life...and now he has to struggle through life behind bars with one eye.
The Story of Andy B is so sad. After seeing the video you can tell that he was triggered and it was his PTSD kicking in. He should have been on his meds, that should have had some bearing but I don't understand how the video got him the death sentence. I would have thought it clearly shows mental health issues.
That video of Adam getting out the car is so funny, it shows how incompetent cops really are when they aren't dealing with a cowering ball of nerves. Bunch of bullies who do nothing but intimidate.
Puts into perspective the two types of police officers. You get good cops like the one here who dies because he was showing a lot of restraint, and then you get the cops on a power trip who don't care at all about other human beings.
This video is massively underrated compared to the other videos on this channel. Veterans who kill citizens are one of the most complex and interesting criminal psychology cases, and the complexity in the analysis of this video perfectly reflects that.
No one mentions this about this channel but what I love and appreciate the most is how eloquent and knowledgeable yet clear and understandable the narration is. not the voice of the narrator but the very words and explanations themselves are so incredible to read and learn from.
JCS Thank you for for bringing understanding and honor to these stories. I want my tears to stop now, and my heart to stop hurting, but i have personal connections that make that difficult
I’ve now watched every one of your videos, and the moment you said that they actually followed through with his execution is still the most shocking. How the fuck does a legally disabled war vet with severe PTSD still get executed in 2015?????
I have seen a lot of bad things on the internet, but that video was one of the most disturbing things I had ever watched even without any blood on screen.
This has been my favourite one so far, definitely has more of a movie feel with the way they spliced the footage and how they did the opening and ending
is it just me.... but if someone has all the evidence like they do in these videos.... why is a confession seen as so hard to get? if someone tells me they have my footprints and everything else... they already got you. you know youre not going home... like im lost
Wow. The very own country Andy risked his life fighting for ended up being the one to kill him. This man was absolutely failed by the very own country he fought for. This was so sad
I wouldn't say the police were biased against Markeith, the dude killed his pregnant girlfriend, shot at her brother, and killed a police officer, unloading on her while she was on the ground. He wanted to kill her, he wanted to do that.
But the the police can't be the ones to punish him, they can't do that. It's not profesional. Everyone deserves a fair trial and the punishment is for the judge and jury to decide. The police can't do that, imagine he was innocent. Think of Georg Floyd. THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
@Alfredo Rangel do you think metally stable people are born evil? I don't, some shit had to happen and that makes me feel really bad for them. The only reason I would have them locked away is for their own safety and the safety of others. I do not wish to punish them for being broken. The same goes with people who are born menatlly unstable, they don't have a choice. I still belive ppl should take responsabillity for their actions but do belive some people aren't capable and those people need help, not punishment.
@Reverberated Dreams There are people who are born with violent, cruel tendencies, yes. There are people who live through horrible trauma and don't become killers. Mental illness is one thing but there are 100% fully sane, evil people on this planet.
@Reverberated Dreams I agree with some of your sentiment but you seem to suggest that there are "evil" people, outside of your other qualifiers. If someone is born with mental illnesses, mistreated upbringing and these things that cause them do have a bad personality or do bad (evil) things isn't that the whole thing? No external evil or good needed to be applied on top of this imo. But I agree that we only need to lock them away, to save others. Somethings can't be rehabilitated, but many things can given the right resources. Just throwing as many people as possible in prison doesn't really keep society safe either.
@Heymelon i don't belive in absolute good and evil, only relative good and evil i.e Nietches Beyond Good and Evil. I agree that some folksare out of reach and needs to be locked up for our safety, I wouldn't do it to harm/ punish them tho
Reverberated Dreams people are evil, that’s why jails exist. To keep society safe from those evil people. When it comes to punishment, imo it depends on the crime committed. In this case I’m actually happy they beat him and made him suffer. Because no matter what punishment he gets decided by the law, nothing can bring back the innocent lives he took.
@Kauity you clearly did't read anything I wrote, or maybe you just don't understand it.. why do I even bother? I'll try to be nice and exsplain myself again, alright? I was talking about the philosophical question of relative evil vs absolute evil, I would think that there would have to be a god in order for absolute evil to even exist in this world. I'm agnostic but act as an atheist, that ofcourse dictates that I don't belive in absolute evil, only relative evil. So when hear of "evil people" I don't wanna hurt or harm them, I only feel pity for them, I feel as they are sick (sick in our societal context). I would like to cure them of there "sickness". As you correctly stated, nothing will bring back the victimes so punishing crimnals like him with harm and torture helps no one. I would have them locked up only as a solution to protect us from them and them from them selfs. I belive in rehabilitation. You ignored all of what I wrote and just stated "there actually is such a thing as evil (you meant absolute evil btw)", that's nothing more than a bassless claim. I would have you know that in my ideal world, I would have you tortured (the worst kind of torture we could come up with) and killed (as slowly and as painfully as possible ofcourse) for your insane stupidity, your complete lack of knowledge and your god damn impudence, it's a fucking crime against humanity you ignorante bastard!
@Alfredo Rangel Because the interest should be justice, not retribution. And even then, they do this exact same shit to innocent people or on a whim if they feel slighted. If you're going to be against police abuse of power, it should be absolute because it can absolutely happen to you. They even bullshitted it with the stand your ground defense ffs.
@Big Jabroni well yeah the police were angry.Are they suddenly above the law?Not doing their job,could mean that the case could be dropped you know.Because they failed to do their job.Okay i get it,they were angry.Then who on earth let them interview him,instead of bringing another detective from another station,not so much psychologicallyl affected.Noone said they are not humans.But they are also public servants,with an important task to perform in the lines of the law.
Man this story got me in my feels, the VA is better than it used to be but it’s still not where it should be. The help for people after they get out just isn’t enough. Just so sad that he was clearly having mental issues sighs and poor Moses for losing his human and he was everything to Andy… geez.
i remember when the uncensored version of this first dropped on paetreon.. i was in tears afterwards. one of the most powerful videos that i’ve ever seen.
Fuck man, this video hit harder than a bag of bricks. I legitimately feel bad for everybody involved, but especially the vet that had to suffer PTSD without any sort of help along the way.
Having seen the unedited cut of the video at the end, I was ready with my finger to skip some of the more troubling parts. Thankfully it was edited down. Those sounds would haunt my dreams.
@CakeDragon924 Very true makes me nauseated, I was ready to lower the volume and skip because those screams are horrific. The aftermath audio when his friend finds him dead and his sobbing is just as horrible
As a vet, I wanna thank Vietnam vets, not for “protecting” this country, but for going to battle for a country which continually lies to its citizens in arms. Aka, Iraq and Afghanistan
Most true crime documentaries either rely on sensationalized editing and sound effects or long drawn out interviews with the affected parties. These documentaries use original footage with impactful narration and carefully timed editing (usually just a small pause or simple graphic on screen).
@Sam Smith i don’t care if he killed a million pregnant women, cops should not be dealing out justice. it’s a dangerous precedent to set when you justify cops beating someone up after they restrained them because they were angry. this guy was obviously guilty and deserved it in hindsight, but you can’t allow that behavior from cops because you know damn well there’s gonna be days where that happens to a completely innocent person… those egomaniacal pigs
@deadinside95 bingo. Regardless of crimes committed, police needs to remain as unbiased and impartial as possible. Is that a lot to ask? Of course, but police are given the utmost authority and should be expected to wield it with respect.
Exactly gunned down a PREGNANT woman and a cop and yet because the cops started off confrontational instead of pretending to be his ally he got Life, I’m not saying the kick to his head was right but people that are justifying PTSD as an excuse, is like saying mental illness, trauma is an okay reason to kill someone
@deadinside95 The cops very extremely unprofessional, but that does not impact or change what he did, so I truly don't understand why the sentence was shortened
@Can't Catch Me because the where unprofessional people normally don't like cops in the first place. So them being unprofessional didn't help because of the trying to get "justice" the criminal didn't face real justice. Plus it looks like a easy revenge against the cops to not give him the max to teach them a lesson
@deadinside95 Exactly. It's very disturbing that people don't seem to understand the implications that letting the police behave like this would have, just because the victim was unsympathetic. We have rules and laws instead of a system of vendetta and eye for an eye-punishments for a reason, if we ignore the rules arbitrarily because we don't like someone, we set ourselves on a slippery slope: what if the police beats up a wrong guy the next time? What if they mistake YOU for a cop killer, beat you up and mutilate you, because they feel they can do that? Is that the world you wamt to live in?
I’m just confused on why Andy was given 10 chances to put the gun down..? So many people get shot for just driving away but this man ran out of the car, provoked the cop, ran back in the car, showed his rifle for a minute, then he shot. Why is this???? The second you see the gun you should be shooting to save your life what the hell was this cop doing…? The man was so unstable you could tell the second he was yelling that he was in the Vietnam War
this is the first time i have ever had to verify my age with a bank card. Smh. I don't think I agree with it, but nevermind here I am binge watching some more.
And this is the last video I get, started from How to pretend to be crazy looks like, to this, and now I'm addicted to these and need this man to upload more videos. Please help.
He cut out all the parts where the police officer was yelling in pain and fear, and where the vet finally went and executed the police officer in cold blood. Seeing all that makes it obvious why there was so little sympathy towards him.
@hank hill easy for you to say, sitting in your basement playing call of duty. For once step in someone else’s shoes to empathically understand not just what people do, but why they do
@Eddie M. This isn't about justification. What he did was brutal and evil, no one argues that. But he commited those actions because he was deployed in hell for years and witness his brothers and friends die around him. It broke him. Instead of receiving the proper treatment and attention from the state that sent him there, he got ignored. That's the attitude of the US for its veterans. Send your soldiers to die but, if they don't die and get traumatized by the war, they're not your problem anymore. What a fucking disgrace of a system
@Cristi Enache completely agree, but op i responded to wasn't clear that they were referring to the broken system that is responsible for looking after our veterans and instead implied merely having ptsd makes what he did excusable. ofc I'm surely that isn't what they meant, but clarity over virtue signaling was not considered
Most of the people in the Vietnam clips never made it home and most of the ones that did could never enjoy the time on earth they have because of the mental strain existing and surviving a war like Vietnam causes. Its pure terror built into them over the course of tour after tour. Pretty fucked its why I never hesitate to let the vets know they're worth so much to us even if at one time they may not of felt it
That traffic stop video got hammered into us at the academy. I don't remember ever hearing the rest of the story, not that it makes the outcome any more palatable.
K, so this is gonna be the last one of the channel I'm watching.
And while it was a somewhat jumbled one to end it on, I gotta say choosing the song that served as the base for a...well-known parody song, took me out of it for a bit.
As unintended as it was, I think I can part with these kinda videos much easier now and won't be weighed down as much by all the tragedy after that.
I'll never understand why someone being mistreated whilst in custody makes people think they should be lenient on them. How they were treated after the crime doesn't change what they did, and they should be punished accordingly. There should then be a separate case against the officers that mistreated the criminal/suspect. They are 2 separate events, and should be handled so.
People prefer to consider time in custody before trial to be a part of the punishment. Probably because one is technically still imprisoned before trial and it needs to be a punishment for something? I find the case of Daniel Chong particularly interesting.
Daniel Chong was placed in a holding cell in 2012 and the police forgot he was there. He spent five days in jail without access to food and water. He developed pica (starvation-induced delirium that causes people to eat inedible material) and ate m etha mp heta mine that he found in the cell as well as broken glass from his glasses and his own excrement.
Upon his discovery he was immediately sent to intensive care and needed treatment for dehydration, failing kidneys, and a perforated lung from eating the glass. He remained hospitalized for five days, three of which in intensive care.
Daniel Chong was not charged because it was ubiquitously agreed that nearly killing him from gross and callous negligence of law enforcement was punishment enough for committing a nonviolent crime.
That's how the system works. Just so you understand, I couldn't care less about the piece of shit's welfare. Cops were right to be angry, but as the footage shows they went too far and it gave his defense team plenty of ammunition. We're lucky he was convicted at all; a more skilled legal team might've gotten him off.
The world we live in was forged by man thousands of years over like iron into a sculpture. We have nobody to blame for the things that go on here but our ancestors, for their part, and ourselves, for ours.
Also holy fucking SHIT That man was definitely a combat veteran. His wild movements while still being able to maintain his weapon and fire accordingly lead to him literally DODGING BULLETS! I saw 2 times where he should have been shot in the head but moved right as the trigger was pulled. Sick man and unfortunately even after everything he did for his country he couldn't live among the rest of society and we still lost at Vietnam. "War only allows Monsters be Monsters and for Regular People to turn into Monsters" -Shawn Heatherly (oc)
Hawkeye: War is worse than Hell. Fr. Mulcahey: Why is that, Hawkeye? Hawkeye: Tell me, Father, who goes to Hell? Fr. Mulcahey: Sinners, I suppose. Hawkeye: Exactly. There's no innocent bystandars. War is chock-full of them.
Few things. Lawyers play a big part in it unfortunately. Maybe he didn’t have a very good defendant. Also at the end of the day the jury makes the verdict. These are every day people in our lives and they really chose to execute him? We’re all doomed
Cops: "If you see wrong behaviour, report it and we will take care. Dont give up on us." Next scene: *Cops stomp a mans eyes out on the ground*: "Justified!"
Law and societal order is objectively good and useful, etc etc But if the exchange goes Man: "fuck off" while holding a gun Cop: "no" Cop then dies Obviously, we know who's in the wrong here. However, if the cop simply fucked off Things wouldn't be so terrible.
crazy how andrew wasn't shot sooner in that encounter, being in 2021 where a black man could get shot for no reason at a routine traffic stop this is baffling
back in the ancient days like egypt they believe eye for an eye.. so this getting a trial will be madness for them like what the hells with this people
thats why i always think people dont really think what they say online, they think they are untouchable. this is very transferable to modern times, where 8 year old children in the park now have iphones, and bully each other via twitter, facebook.
cops will beat the crap out of a cop killer (ie markeith loyd) and let him sit in pain while handcuffed during interrogation, but serial killers, child predators, mass killers they will treat with respect and give them food and make feel confortable during interrogation. Idiotic world we live in.
am I the only one who feels incredibly bad for Andy B.? he served his country only to be tossed in the trash. I honestly hope god has mercy on his soul.
Mark Rampersad bro that’s just disrespectful even if it’s meant to be a joke. When people talk about these trigger happy cops nowadays, look at this. This cop showed TOO MUCH restraint and look what it got him.
@Savethebestforu He was screaming his lungs out at a man behaving erratically. That's not a restraint issue, restraint is completely orthogonal to the discussion here. That cop was trained to be afraid, so the situation went out of control because something deep took control of both of those men. Absolute tragedy.
its how this beautiful pregnant girl knew she was in some trouble and try to tell ppl...... I feel so sad for her..... knowing what happened to her and her unborn..... and then to that officer.....that man deserved everything that happened to him when he got arrested. This channel is life tho! Highly entertaining!
Those cops who beat and refused medical attention to the guy that killed his wife, baby and the cop: they are so dumb. They directly caused that guy not to get a death sentence, all because they couldn't control their own anger.
@Selection Perhaps. But death sentences don't happen within a few days. Takes years. And perhaps the thought of being killed some day while trapped in a cell may be worse then knowing you'll just spend your life in prison. As for some, that life isn't so bad.
AdriRaindrop true and I’ve actually heard that many in jail actually want to be on death row because the jails are of higher quality and let you have access to stuff like tv and personal belongings. Also end up usually being on death row for many many years
@Scarlet Rain it depends on what he's in jail for. Since he killed his wife and child, prisoners wont be nice to him and would probably prefer death lol
@Bill Davis life in death row is usually much better than a regular prisoner life. And so much tax money giving those people comfy lives while they wait for their death day.
@Kekitto Rektus probably in the same way as those officers, but perhaps I’d also reason that this guy is gonna get a softer sentence if I didn’t maintain a professional demeanor, and that I’d owe it to the friend and colleague of mine that he killed to make sure he gets the death penalty, so maybe not.
@TheStealthyPyro lethal injection is painless. It’s not fast but it doesn’t hurt the person. The first thing they do is put the person in a deep sleep and on anesthetics. They’re literally put to sleep. Then you have the process of paralyzation, reduced breathing, then the slowing of the heart. If it weren’t painless it wouldn’t be used and would be deemed cruel and unusual much like the electric chair.
@Woodman steve It actually is in the process of being deemed such, in the process of being heard by the supreme court. Recent research (published in the last 6ish months) shows over 3/4 of autopsys on lethal injection inmates show pulmonary edema along with froth and foam in airways. Basically meaning they drowned and organs failed before death. Basically anything but a painless death during a deep sleep on the less painful end they suffocated/drowned on the more painful end they experienced extreme pain from multiple organ failure, along with suffocating. It is only not visibly noticed because of the paralytic, which in itself has a cruelty aspect to it, your organs are on fire and you are drowning but can't move. This is without taking into account botched executions that have happened where IVs weren't done properly and pain and suffering was visible. People tend to think this drastic research is done on methods of execution but it is not because the people who would normally do such research do not want to be associated with assisting in research on execution as it is a bad career move and goes against the oath most medical professionals take.
@ladenswallow09 Congratulations on poor reading comprehension. My point was not if the end result was death or not, I was stating it was likely not painless.
@ivan ivanovich you're not getting the point though. police are supposed to be unbiased and unemotional in their work, the moment they bring in their own feelings and neglect him is what is the problem. yeah he probably deserved what they said but how is that gonna help their case?
I’ll say this... respecting a person who doesn’t respect you, who’s done terrible horrible stuff, even when they try to illicit a response out of you? Still respect them. It drives them crazy. It makes them go mad if they see their worst isn’t getting to you. And they try harder.
They dig... and fester... and rot. Make themselves look worse.
These cops, even though what this guy did was revolting, should still have respected him to ensure he couldn’t play victim, and detract from his victims.
Everyone should respect one another, even if stuff is going to hell, don’t make someone your victim. Ever.
A lot of people are going to have a hard time agreeing with this, but I think you're right. It's so much easier to feel vindictive rather than understanding and empathetic, but that hate will still poison you if you let it.
@Pequeño Perezoso obviously in an ideal world no one would have weapons at all, but guns are way too important for self defense at this point. especially since making it illegal to own a gun will affect honest people infinitely more than dishonest people. they should def be restricted and police should 100% have better nonlethal neutralization methods, but making them completely illegal just isn't practical.
Also, the man that narrate's the videos isn't "Jim" there is more than one person responsible for compiling and writing this stuff. His name is "Kazume" I think. He has his own channel.
Happy to hear about Moses, at least he had someone to live for. Glad he was "fine" with dying, he didn't deserve it, but he didn't gain anything bad from it.
The first JCS video where I sympathise with the murderer. Edit: Damn, that ending is really sad. Neither the policeman nor the soldier deserved what happened to either of them.
"Your honor the Police were biased against my client because he killed one of their officers" I cannot fathom the combination of facial movements and exhalation of gasses through internal organs necessary to emit such a statement.
It may be true but it's not the polices right to take out their anger on the suspect no matter the crime. That's what the legal system is for and had they just kept professional (albeit that would be extremely hard for anyone) he most definitely would have gotten the death penalty he deserved
It’s not the police force’s job to execute punishments .. that is specifically the court jury and judge’s job, they are only paid to enforce laws not use their emotions to do their job. This is one of the reasons why Americans are always the laughing stock of the rest of the world, police brutality is a regular day on the job to us and when people want to stand up for rightfully arrested but unjustly abused criminals that were already due to be punished, some of us have the nerve to say “so what?”
Dont confuse veterans that fought for a just cause, like ww1 and ww2, with the completely unecessary war in Vietnam, or the war in Iraq that was built on lies. i dont have any kind of sympathy for the people that decide to get paid for killing strangers in the other corner of the world for no reason
@apo kos Keep in mind that the US military these days recruits its soldiers through poverty, and during the Vietnam War there was a draft. While I agree that every military conflict the United States has been in after the Second World War has been unjustified, it’s not fair to blame the soldiers. They’re not the ones making the decision to start wars.
@apo kos So disrespectful, i understand where you’re coming from but the blame should be in money hungry politicians. not the men who suffered and had to go to war because of the draft. Both the soldiers fighting in the wars and the innocents on the receiving end are victims of human greed
@Stephan Gaza the men pulling the trigger are not innocent. it is their choice to be there, it is their choice to kill. according to the Nuremberg trials, "following orders" is not a legal excuse for murder
@IIIIII the men pulling the trigger are not innocent. it is their choice to be there, it is their choice to kill. according to the Nuremberg trials, "following orders" is not a legal excuse for murder
@Kindertotten 1) most american soldiers nowdays serve willingly and with pay 2) you can declare yourself a consiensus objector if you dont want to murder people
It also highlights the sympathy the cop had because he didn't want to end the mans life like other trigger happy cops. His actions ended in his own death but the entire story leading up the the meeting of those two men at that exact moment is very tragic. You can't fault either of them for their actions. Two wildly different mental situations.
@Honey Proportionately to the amount of police interactions white people have with police compared to black people, it's still the case, sorry. Cops hesitate to pull the trigger against a person of color nowadays because of the political climate. But nice try
@bluishwolf yeah, I read something about actual book and how there is a lot of killing involved, not like movie where in the first part only one that gets killed is guy that falls from helicopter.
This video of Andrew Brannan is a major reason cops are out of control with guns today. This is used as a training video throughout the nation to instill in police officers the mentality to shoot immediately at any perceived threat. Police officers learn that because Kyle, the rookie cop, hesitated, he paid with his life.
@DownFromTheREEEfters 21:44 the magic words are said. because of this video, cops everywhere since know the magic words. it's no coincidence. this is the training video that has led us to 2020.
Don't use PTSD as an excuse for murder, the guy still knew what he was doing. I know it sounds harsh, but he still made that decision to grab the rifle and open fire on the officer.
By this place he meant Earth, being alive. He obviously knew he got the death penatly, he came to his own trial and even offered his condolences to the victim's family because he knew he would never be able to again and wanted to at least partially right his wrong before his death
@Emanouche they dont always know what they are doing. You really need to do some research. Sometimes when a person with ptsd has their ptsd triggered it can send them into a trance like state. I know many vets with ptsd, trust me if one of them goes batshit all of the sudden with flashbacks, you better hope they dont see you as a threat.
@Emanouche Right, its certainly not. But its so tragic how his story ends compared to the other Guy who murdered a police officer, his Ex gf && His unborn daughter........ and still is alive today..
@Pedro Cavalcante Santana I don't think so. I mean you did have those that participated in things like mai lai, but the majority of then served with honor and courage. Even if by our standards they did something "bad", we could never understand the circumstances; it is war after all.
@Colleen Sarmento I've sucked blood from the lungs of a man dying from a pulmonary embolism (basically choking on his own blood) I've sat in a ditch with a man in my lap impaled through the chest with rebar to keep him immobilized so as not to do any more damage to his body. I've held the hands of many men and women as they've taken their final breath. Some things do stay with you.
I live in the county this happened at. Sadly someone at work showed me the traffic stop video on YouTube and i wish he had not. This guy who showed me video was a washout from trying to be a cop and said they show them all this video which may have a bit to do with why we have higher incidents of police shootings recently? The cops parents ran the only bowling alley for a 60+ mile radius. Poor kid and I feel bad for his parents and children bc they probably had son e asshole kid link the video from YT to their fb or something.
This is a tough one for me. I keep almost forgetting he was a combat veteran, on the other hand it involves a woman with child and an officer. It is difficult to back the blue when brutality is involved, but also to challenging back brutality going unchecked.
He obviously seemed like he was in the right state of mind when he was asking for medical attention. Yet didn’t show one ounce of regret or sympathy for what he did.
if that happened in this time and era, he would use the racial card for sure even though he killed a BLACK police officer. the fact of the matter is that these people use every kind of defense to try and escape responsibilities for their crimes. And quite honestly, you always have one soft hearted liberal in one of these trials who doesn't want to sentence a man to death. No surprise there. Even mass murderers have avoided the death penalty like James Holmes who shot up the theatre.
@Ethan Orange ok, but it didn't happen in this time and era, and he didn't use the race card. while it's difficult to say that someone like the war machine or someone like this man who killed his pregnant girlfriend doesn't deserve the death penalty, because of the pure rage and hurt i feel on behalf of these women. i'm still undecided on it.
I like that the guy operating the IR camera in the helicopter turned away when he realized they were going to beat his ass after apprehending him. It’s too bad he got the best one on camera.
It's interesting that your sympathy only extends in one direction. I don't think anyone who's lived a healthy, purposeful life would murder someone and their child. He, like veterans, clearly suffered from something in his life that led to this heartbreaking decision. War is a terrible thing, but life itself, outside of war, can also be terrible. I extend my empathy to both men, because something had to have gone horribly wrong in both of their lives for them to end in the way they did.
He never wanted to kill that man. A switch was hit, created by the U.S. war machine. The officer became the enemy in his brain. Thank both of you for your service! This was a tragic situation. My thoughts and prayers go out the the families affected.
@Daniel Wong I’m not trying to speak on anybody’s behalf. I don’t know for sure what he was thinking or feeling in that moment. I just simply shared my thoughts on what may have been going through his mind as his killswitch was engaged. I’m not being disrespectful to anyone here, so I ask. Why are you?
@Joshua David That wasn't "My Thoughts". You wrote your original comment as if it was a fact. There are ways to write things to prevent idiocies like that.
20:40 no fucking way. I saw this video years and YEARS back and it absolutely horrified me. Now I know the sad complicated backstory for it all these years later. Huh
I initially watched it in a compilation of cops getting executed. I was getting some popcorn & drinks ready to enjoy the show. It is sort of my kind of entertainment to see corrupt & evil cops get a visit from karma & getting slaughtered like the pigs they are. But unfortunately officer Kyle was just fresh out of the academy & was in no way a corrupt cop. So he obviously did not deserve all of this. It saddens me how its always the good people that get bad things coming to them. I seriously wished that cops like those that murdered George Floyd would have gotten an execution like that.
@Italianstallion 727 , Oh, I go by the Name I told Moses these days so you don't have to call Me Jesus because that Name is a Curse word ever since it got Hung to death on a Cross. So Anny Way what you will notice in this video is that the Narrator says that the Cop has the right to shoot Andrew after Andrew informs the Police he is Armed but what the Narrator fails to real eyes is that Andrew has the right to kill the cop after the cop draws his gun and points it at Andrew. If you notice Andrew was simply Dancing in the Street completely unarmed and then AFTER the Cop threatens Andrew by pointing his gun at him Andrew then arms himself and defends himself. So, It's a Clear cut case of Self Defense, justified, like when Moses killed that Egyptian. And it really matters not what public opinion is about this because you are all sinners in need of a Saviour.
It's not that complicated. He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did not dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged, nothing more.
Both of my grandfathers were in Vietnam. My maternal grandfather passed away In 2012, from what I can recall was complications from war injuries (I was young at the time so this may be wrong). My paternal grandfather is still alive and relatively healthy, but he’s had issues with his hearing and heart as a result of exposure to Agent Orange. It’s a damn shame what we did there, to our men and the people of Vietnam.
@Jam Imho, the ruling class cares about money and power - I.e., who controls (and who doesn't) access to and distribution of the earth's natural resources, primarily oil.
Everyone needs to learn, one way or another, that these wars are started & funded by a very specific tribe of people with a strong in-group preference. So much avoidable bloodshed at the cost of power and greed.
Rich people make money off wars, and as an added bonus wars kill off more poor people. But at least they got rid of the communism in Asia after that war, right? RIGHT???
Defense contractors are powerful corporations that pay off politicians through super PAC lobbying and other forms of "fundraising". The rich get paid and the taxpayers and consumers fund it.
No it wasn’t, he was forced into Vietnam and got ptsd. He did not choose to go to Vietnam, he did not choose to get drafted. Yet nonetheless the government that he fought for, that his brothers died for, that his life was ruined for, killed him... All while he could do nothing about it. The day the government got him drafted was the day his fate was sealed.
5 minutes in and i am beginning to remember this case. juicy. unfortunately poorly trained cop vs extremely shell-shocked and well-trained vietnam war hero=3 of the most exiting and terrifying minutes ever committed to camera. That being said, he should have been shown leniency. His mental state is in no way his fault.
No, he was still responsible for his actions. His mental state should be cause for an insanity plea, but he should clearly not be allowed among the general population anymore, at least not until definitively proven to be better. Given how damaged he seemed to have been, though, it's unlikely he can improve. Was it his fault that he was messed up by the war so much? Of course not. But he still pulled the rifle and pulled the trigger.
The guy who had shot a pregnant woman 8 times killing her, shot her brother 3 times, then shot a police woman killing her also. He got kicked, aw so sad????? what if it was your pregnant sister or daughter he shot and killed?
@Sterling A exactly. Cops don't need to act in a professional and legal manner. Theyre cops - laws don't apply to them.
Besides, we all know that arresting someone and sending them to jail or executing them isn't how we get revenge for crimes people commit. Sending thugs to beat them up is what we do.
I cried buckets without it - for everyone involved. No need to see the full thing.
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Worse than the screams where the gurgles you heard at the end. The wounded officer trying to breath with a mouth full of blood no doubt. The both of them where victims.
I notice he edited this from the original version. I totally get why he did it but it doesn't look like it helped (still flagged). He should just restore the original version.
It's not the veterans who are the problem, it's the system. They're abused by the system just like everyone if not more and the least one can do is respect them. That doesn't mean you are supposed to respect the system that abuses and exploits them.
@NoSoul NoProblem never said they were the problem per se but most ppl don't respect them bc they are victims of the system as you say. On the contrary they respect them bc they 'fought for the country' so precisely bc they participated in the system.
He was actually written up for excessive force about a month before and admitted to his supervisor and other officers how nervous he was getting hands on with suspects after.
@TheFoxBox Gaming It's...really sad. I agree that excessive force exists, I agree that some cops do bad shit. But when you see cases like this, see mass shootings where they're the first responders-despite often being under equipped to deal with rifles, see things like Las Vegas where they were as brave as anyone, attempting to draw fire away from the crowd-which is what lights and sirens will likely do, you remember just how fucked their position is, and how they're expected to risk their lives doing things that citizens like me don't have the balls to do-AKA run into the line of fire rather then running away from it.
@Rabbit Corn It's a fine line and why I stopped trying to be a cop. Alongside a few things that I'm morally against, and that the good cops that do exist have the toughest job in the world.
This is one of the most widely shown clips used to demonstrate the need for officers to use justified force. This was an instance in which proper police conduct was not performed, as force should have been used.
If you haven’t, please watch the full video of the murder of this officer before saying anything about the suspect being white therefore he wasn’t killed. Fair warning it might haunt you. But the way I see it they exchanged fire and the Vietnam vet w multiple tours and a carbine won. I think it’s a little twisted to see something like this and begin to make racial assumptions
@5nbo me this video is used in training to show what NOT to do during a traffic stop. Black, white, or fucking green that cop should have shot that guy and you have NO idea what was going on in that cops head and heart to think he would have shot the guy if he was black so give it a rest. Sweeping generalizations about any group (cops, skin color, etc.) do nothing but make you look ignorant. If you get your statistics on police shootings from the news instead of the statistics themselves means you are doing it wrong my friend. The fact that you don't know the name of even ONE white person involved in a questionable police shooting is proof of that. Because statistically they exist as well but the media likes a spicy story no matter who it hurts so they aren't getting mentioned.
@Pac West I don't disagree that the cop should have initiated the firefight, but you simply cannot reduce the actions of this officer down to "oh he's white I'll give him a chance to drop it". Again the same justice system tried and still executed this vet.
@Pac West There's also numerous cases of white people both armed and unarmed being murdered by police. The recent murder of Ryan Whittaker comes to mind. The boys in blue don't care what color you are, and are willing to gun you down regardless.
@5nbo me They really aren't there are only a couple. Like would you say all doctors are murderers because some of them kill people just because they can? No because that's a really stupid assumption
something about the officer saying "put the gun down! Sir put the gun down!" and Andy just being like "No!" over & over again is incredibly hilarious, despite the context of the situation
Like many people, I first heard of JCS a week or so ago when I saw "What Pretending to Be Crazy Looks Like", and I watched a bunch more of your police interrogation videos. I enjoyed seeing cruel, dishonest people squirm under pressure, get caught in lies, fall for interrogators' tricks, and usually taste harsh justice at the end of their trial. Like everyone, I've experienced and seen injustices, and I took gleeful pleasure in seeing bullies get their comeuppance.
I'm glad I did all that, because now that I've seen this video, I don't want to anymore. This one brought tears to my eyes. Seeing Andy Brannan's story, the video of him in his crazed, angry state murdering a police officer, and his plain last words made clear to me that confusion prevails. I don't know how any of these people got tied up into such terrible knots, and I don't know how to untie them. I don't know what to think, really. But I know that the righteous clarity I experienced while watching the other videos is only a small part of a much larger confusion. This one is your best work.
Heartbreaking all the way around. My dad was in the Vietnam war. One night he had a nightmare, and I heard him crying out in a long moan of terror so deep that haunts me still.
Holy cow what a tragic life he had leading up to killing :(( I know he’s a murderer but watching the beginning I can’t help but feel for him, this is so absolutely horrible. I can’t imagine losing two siblings in such a short amount of time on top of all the friends he had lost in war.
You should’ve shown the screams it’s the worst thing to hear but it gives you 100% understanding as to why the jury sought the death penalty for a mentally disturbed individual
I've watched several docus on Dinkheller, but I knew almost nothing about the shooter (other than him being a vet). This is so extremely saddening. In a different scenario Kyle and Andy would have shared a beer together and swapped war stories.
God who knew it’d be possible to root for both sides in a conflict? I feel so bad for Kyle, who tried so hard to avoid violence altogether, and Andy, who just wanted to die. His final statement really hit hard.
wow... although I hate war and think it is wrong i strongly respect every single person who serves, it's just a shame a country who will send you to fight for them will not give you the after treatment you deserve and should be mandatory.. Andy deserved punishment for his actions but equally deserved treatment for his past, this hit hard. Rip Kyle and Rip Andy.
My uncle served in Vietnam, he worked hard and controlled his temper and fear his entire life. We never did fire crackers ect. Growing up....fast forward to him turning 65. His mind had Lewey dementia, and his mind didnt get stuck as a child...it got stuck as a teenager in vietnam. He beleved his wife was the enemy, he began to beat her up...and thinking he had a gun and trying to shoot her. She died of a heart attack 3 years ago. He is currently siting in a nursing home...he has some moments where he begs his daugther to get him out of this hellhole. She finally realized he meatn get him out of the war. so this video hits close to home and broke my heart for this man. All I can say, he is finally free of war.
True, you'd never see a US officer *run a man over with a patrol car*. ^.^ They'd be too afraid of losing their damned job on some bogus claim of brutality.
i feel so bad for this old man. The human brain is so fucking crazy i cant help but try to imagine what he was mentally going through in those moments. And the fact that he was happy to get out of this life… just so sad
Am I supposed to feel sorry that this dude got his ass kicked by police? Because that’s not gonna happen. If you do something horrible, then you deserve everything that comes your way next.
yes exactly, he deserved it. in my opinion though, the police and such should always try and handle it just like their training, but i understand that everyone is human.
The level of injustice done to this man is so mind boggling to me. He has completely become insane due to little or no fault of his own. His intentions were actually purely admirable, but his end result is being in a mental and physical prison. Terrifying
“My only regret… is that you’re breathing right now.” Ouch! They went down to his level instead of staying high. Obviously we all agree the dude was worthless, but you have a job to do. They were talking like they were in this comment section 😂😂
True. Their emotionally influenced actions resulted in him rotting in prison as opposed to getting it over with right away. Either way he’s virtually dead.
I would contest the idea that the Vietnam War was any more horrific than any other war that has ever been fought. This was just the first one to be televised on the national news on a daily basis, and beamed directly into people's homes.
20:32 for a few moments I thought this cop wasn't well trained or wasn't following procedure, then realized the suspect was a white veteran and the poor cop was just confused and didn't want to do the wrong thing.
Oh please... He murdered a woman with an unborn child, he murdered a cop trying to do her job, he shoots and attacks police, he does all of these in public areas with total disregard for the innocent children, mothers, grandparents, etc, all around him.... And the police speak harshly (and tbh, this video did NOT show anything bad done to him) they maybe acted over the top and busted him about when they arrested him (you know... right after murdering two women and an unborn child, and shooting at them - so yeah, they probably did shove him down and such).... Poor murdering criminal is getting his feelings hurt and being treated unfairly.... BS!
This is my last video on this channel after binging the others the past few days. I avoided this one because the thumbnail was difference and it was way shorter than the rest
Also I fully understand why they were so mean to him he killed an innocent woman and child tried killing her brother then killed a cop that was well known and respected her loss would've been so painful to everyone in the force humans are emotional when things hit home
Dalia Dippolito. Friend linked it to me not knowing it would create a monster, where-in I spent fifteen minutes shouting insults at them because this channel is tiny (content wise) and finding equally good channels is like deliberately swimming in a slurry tank and expecting to find gold coins.
@Patrick Harrington hahaha, I know what you mean. Pretty much everyone I've linked this channel to has binged it. When you've had top content like this it's hard to take a step down. Have you checked out https://youtube.com/c/TheBehaviorPanel ?
I think death is an easy out. Let someone sit in prison the rest of their natural life knowing they will never experience freedom again. That's a punishment.
He's not shooting out the tires. The suspects in that car had already fired 30+ shots at officers during the pursuit. Threat needed to be stopped simple as that. And about the shooting at a fleeing suspect thing an officer is allowed to shoot if they perceive the fleeing suspect as a threat to them or others. Which clearly these people were.
I wish it was easy to let go of the horrors of war I wish it because they gave up so much so we didn't have to give up anything they sacrificed there happiness for us
I just can't understand how defense attorneys can defend someone that does something like killing their girlfriend but their unborn child and then cold-bloodedly murdering and continuing to shoot an actual hero of the community and then stand up there and defend this person I get its thier job but how do they sleep at nighy
It’s not like they are proud of it. Everyone is entitled to defense and as an attorney, they are taught to take their own emotions out of the case and defend their client as best as they can. These attorneys are not bad people because most are just assigned to a person.
Rambo was originally meant to end with Sylvester Stallones character Rambo killing himself, And the narrative was supposed to be completely different. They even filmed it this way but after several test screenings went bad, They re-shot parts of it & changed the ending with Rambo suriving.. Part of the problem.
Hey Jim I just realized.. is your name a Pun about Charlie Don't Surf? "Charlie don't surf and we think he should Jim can't swim but his videos are really good!" The Clash – Charlie Don't Surf ♥
Not good in the slightest. If those officers had an ounce of selfcontrol (which should be mandatory) he would have ended up with the death penalty instead
i feel like it's the algorithm that hides this video, it has never appeared in my recommendations nor in the sidebar as i'm bingeing this channel. i was surprised to see there was a video i missed from JCS when I finally looked at his uploads on his profile.
@4surprisingly I've also noticed that this video has an age restriction on it, and other videos from this channel are not age restricted. Actually, its the ONLY age restricted video.
@4surprisingly You are 100% spot on. I've seen the algorithm suggest all of his videos except this one. The only reason I found this was by actually going through JCS profile to see if there were any videos I haven't seen. Low and behold... this was the only one. And after watching it, this comes as no surprise. They are preparing the population for war and will need their cannon fodder in the near future.
@OM i believe it too. or in the least, i believe that they're censoring information for deviant purposes. Social media giants really are censoring information, that much is true. Furthermore, what purpose do they have to censor this ONE jcs video? How does it differ from the others, really? And the fact that the one video they did censor was about WAR and PTSD? yeah. i see problems here. big problems. When you think a little and compare information, this video really isn't very different in content from all of the other jcs vids. So the question returns: Why. did. they. age. restrict. this.
Jesus christ the way he switches from almost child-like, boisterous disobedience to complete quiet, stone-faced jungle prowl is terrifying. It' almost as if people will do whatever possible to adapt in a hostile environment and cant just switch back to a monotonous routine...
For anyone thinking of watching the shootout just from curiousity, I would say just don't. Not worth it. Very disturbing and sad, nothing of interest or extra information to see. Better left unseen, or rather unheard, I would say.
Pay attention especially civilians. "In the end we were fighting ourselves" - Platoon. These brave young men were test subjects. "His time in theatre"...the art of War is an insidious business.
My ex killer himself after being discharged from the Navy. War is inhumane. Everyone suffers on both sides.
I really wish I hadn’t watched the uncensored version of dinkhellers murder. Those death gurgles made my heart race and my body sweat. I’m not a good way.
10:49 - The words shes saying seem maybe playful, joking, but her body language, especially her eyes express fear. No one watching thought anything of it?
Wow sorry but I'm not sending anyone a picture of my id card nor my credit card information... Youtube needs to get rid of that bullshit age verification thing
I saw the shooting when i was fairly young on Fox Scariest Police Chases. The audio is indeed the worst part. As soon as that video started i could hear him. I almost stopped watching, thanks for the tasteful editing.
I just watched it somewhere else and its horrifying. I can see why he was given the death penalty after that. I had some sympathy at the start of the video for the vet, but now I hate that pos rabid dog. It's hard to indulge in details of a tragic life history, listen to medical analysis etc, when you hear a grown man screaming like an animal for his life and witness this psycho needlessly execute him. Sorry for this long reply but I really hope he's burning in hell.
The fact that even after he was shot, he was saying " stop SIR " so respectful ...the police officer had the right to shoot him multiple times but he didn't .... It is sad that it's the good ones that get shot
I remember sending my uncle who was a sgt. Armour cav's an scout! I would color pictures an mail to him! 68-70 ¹/2..nearly 3 tours, he was my true real hero! His friend died at home a week after he go state side! Sad, but my uncle lived till 65, an died from agrnt orange kidney/ liver damage, 40 yrs later, the war still got him..
Well... i was contemplating whether i should look for the video. I figured maybe the narrator was over-exaggerating a bit. Reading this, I decided not to. Better that I don't subject myself to something I'll never forget.
@Fru it may genuinely leave you with nightmares, especially knowing that those screams and breathes are his final. They’re terrifying, watch at your own discretion but I think you’re making the good choice not watching, brennan even screams “die fucker” right before shooting him in the eye to finish him.
after binginb this channel for the past few days, then watching that "interrogation" makes me feel like both those cops shouldn't be in a position of power in any work, honestly amazed they somehow made me root for Markeith.
Putting someone to death might feel like greater justice in cases like this, but putting someone to death in the USA costs more money than it does keeping them in prison for the rest of their lives AND it does not reduce crime any greater than a life sentence.
Taxpayers want the greatest reduction in crime for the least amount of money...and death sentences arent that
After watching every JCS video currently released, in a matter of 3 days, this is the last one I come to. And it might be the best one. Shame it has the fewest views. The ending was powerful. Also Mad Men.
Like many here, I started a few days ago with "what pretending to be crazy looks like" and reached this one last. Caught up now, and eagerly to see more from this creator. This stuff is amazing. Next year I might use some of the videos (heavily curated) for teaching my AP Government course, particularly on the 5th Amendment. I'm very glad so many of these people confessed to the police, but they're good evidence of why you should never talk to cops.
I do not like how society expects a bullied kid to just forget it when he gets older and just function in society without help, a soldier just get back from war and function without help and so on. No wounder shit happen from time to time...
@Armanjot Dhanoa no shit.. of course it isn't the same but the point is you can't just forget it.. it stays with you and everything reminds you of it.. it sucks either way
@Armanjot Dhanoa Well people can be more horrible in their youth then I believe you can even imagine, hopefully you are not one of them and live in denial. If so then you are part of the problem regarding bullying.
I watched the full footage of the firefight ages ago. As soon as you started talking about Vietnam I got that creepy feeling. Anyone who's considering looking up the full video, let me reiterate what JCS said. You won't forget it. It's one of the few things I still think I might have been better off not seeing, although the sound is the really confronting part.
I'm not going to lie, I almost cried with this whole Andy story. The guy lost so much, and had to experience so much. Then right before he dies he's happy to leave this place. It's haunting man, and so sad. I've read a lot about the Vietnam War. The pictures you showed at the end with a bunch of soldier's faces almost really made the tears fall. I can see the pain in all of their eyes. Terrible.
@Dipsy Logic usually you put /s to denote sarcasm, as it doesn't translate over text unless extremely obvious, which it wasn't in this case, so nawh, won't go to reddit, the basement of the internet.
I had a math teacher in 7th grade who was a Vietnam Vet. One day, one of the students dropped his not book on the floor. The teachers eyes went wild and he screamed at the top of his lungs "GET DOWN!" He then dove head first over his desk and remained completely silent. The class laughed as we thought he was kidding. After a couple minutes a student got up to see if the teacher was ok. He was in a fetal position on the floor behind his desk crying. An ambulance showed soon after. I never saw that teacher again. I hope your ok Mr. Holmen. I'm sorry you had to go through what you went through. You were a good teacher. War destroys people.
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What year did this happen?
481 likesThis was so sad to read. Poor men.
1500 likesSeems like bullshit
1154 likes@Alex Worm agree. Sounds like a hack story.
664 likesSo before that no one had made a sudden noise or dropped a book in his class room?
471 likes@Celestial Emissary I worked with a an Iraq vet a few years back at a paintball field where sudden loud noises were relatively common. One day though, he just fucking snapped when an o-ring popped in the high pressure air hose. I've never seen a man more terrified and he couldn't be calmed down for hours. PTSD is fucking crazy, I could see OPs situation being quite plausible.
2735 likesHe was probably thinking about war when the book was dropped and it set the breakdown off.
510 likesIts a damn shame what happened (while in country and when they got home) to the boys they sent off to Vietnam. It's been almost sixty years and my Grandpa is still jumpy..
332 likes@joseph mengele04 lmfao
3 likesLol. He was just sick of you punks calling him Mr. Hole-Man
102 likes@Alex Worm Seems like a scene from the movie Class of '99.
25 likesMy dad got drafted, did 2 tours and stayed in the military his entire life afterwards. When he snapped it wasn’t crying and stuff, it was straight back into “combat mode” he could be the scariest thing you’d ever seen if you surprised him. I once snuck up on him while
589 likeshe was doing yard work and scared him with a snake and he almost killed me with a shovel on reflex, my mom had to tell me to never ever mess with my dad like that again.
Vietnam was hell, young men got traumatized and came
home and some didn’t ever mentally come back.
@John It's not even been 50 years till they pulled out friend,but sorry about your grandpops
24 likesI think the people who say stories like this are funny are people who are hurting themselves, and just like a bully vent their pain towards others. They can also be people with such fragile egos that if they believe in something that turns out to be false they’re suddenly idiots. Psychology is complicated.
188 likes@falseking989 Either that or they've played too much Call of Duty.
44 likes@A Jack All war is Hell.
33 likes@Celestial Emissary there's no telling when someone has a flashback. you could be subjected to a given stimulus 20 times and then suddenly, it happens again under the right conditions, and it makes you freak out. there are all sorts of variables influencing your mental state at any given point in time. your location, the people around you, the current state of your mind, the things that happened earlier that day, etc. we know this from many examples. look at the man who killed chris kyle. he was in many live fire situations and had even done stress drills without any adverse reaction. but one day out of nowhere, during normal target shooting, he snapped and murdered chris kyle. there's no rhyme or reason to it. well, actually there probably is. it's just much too complicated, and there are just way too many variables, for humans to nail down the exact sequence of events that leads to a trigger. just because there are too many factors to keep track of, doesn't mean they don't exist.
282 likes@Toxically Masculine I suffer from PTSD and everything you said was spot on. My partner taps me to get my attention 99.99% it's fine. However if I'm having a bad day, she could tap me and send me into a panic attack or vicous flashbacks. It seems to put your mind on such a hair trigger
283 likesnice story dude. youre pretty creative
15 likes@Andrew Mastrantoni Fair enough
0 likes@Alex Worm It isn't. My father was a Pathfinder in Long Bien 1970-71. He'd wake up from sound sleeps in a terror. When he had his nose operated on at the VA in Leeds, Ma., there was a vet there who had a football helmet padlocked to his head to keep him from smacking his head into cinderblock walls. Additionally, an English Instructor at my first attempt at college, told a story of a pilot who went into evasive maneuvers after someone dropped a couple of coins from their pocket, hitting the steel floor of the craft. It sounded like rounds hitting the plane, as when he was flying a huey in the MiKong Delta. When the plane finally landed, he found the one who dropped the coins and kicked his ass. It wasn't deliberate. Just a freak occurrence, but flashbacks are a real thing. I miss my dad. I wish I told him more often that I am proud of him.
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4 likes@Alex Worm The guy that posted this doesn't seem like the type of person to lie about this kind of thing.
53 likes@Kyle Kyle The guy that posted this doesn't seem like the type of person to lie about this kind of thing.
16 likesI worked construction with many Nam vets around ‘81 - ‘82 and saw them react sharply and suddenly to loud noises all the time.
70 likesHack storyyyy
8 likes@Alex Worm it's not....
26 likes@ᴍ ᴀ ᴢ ᴀ ɴ ᴏ 1986
38 likesWow... that is an incredible story. So sad...
6 likesYeah no. What a bs story lmao
6 likesAnd the entire NVA slow clapped
5 likesWhen i was in 4th grade one day we had a sub who was a war veteran and he told the class all about the war and why he went almost completely deaf he was up against a concrete wall and was being shot at. sadly i never saw that sub again after that day. i assume he was fired for telling us about the war after some parent complained about it
47 likes@Damon Kelly I wouldn't get so upset about people calling you a liar bro... What's true is true. And regardless, I've seen stuff similar happen. Most of the morons that have the need to "call you out" have never been around a real man that's engaged in heavy combat. Either that, or they are just so cynical anything in the yt comment section is bs. Which isn't without reason. Anyways, you know it would be cool for you to make a vlog about it and post it back on this thread if you decide to do it.
74 likesLol this is a copypasta
8 likesMy senior history teacher was gonna tell us a war story before school ended, but carona showed up
4 likesdamn bro... thats the closest I been to crying in a long time... i dont know if I should thank you or call you an SOB.
8 likesSounds like you need to speak to him not us.
0 likesSame happened to my JROTC teacher, after a kid slammed his backpack on the desk
11 likesA Jack my dad was in Vietnam too and he had a similar reaction once too when unexpectedly startled in an unusual way
8 likesjesus :(
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4 likes@Alex Worm seems like a comment from a scared coward trying to make himself feel big and bad
3 likesThose who want war must be destroyed before they destroy everyone else
12 likesNot to derail-I had a teacher back in college who told me that she had a student who came back from Iraq-a Lieutenant, leading a squad in warehouse clearing when hand-to-hand combat broke out. He ended up almost killing his wife during a night terror by strangling her. Luckily he didn't, and he got the help he needed.
14 likeswhat an incredibly kind sentiment.
2 likesSounds like me. War is hell and sticks with you daily. I still see the faces of the Iraqis I had in my sights. I take more pills than my diabetic grandfather just to she semi functionable
23 likesCelestial Emissary something like that can happen repeatedly but it only takes one time to actually set PTSD off
1 likeI literally had a teacher in middle school who was a Vietnam vet who did the exact same thing.
11 likesIt just proves humans are not supposed to kill each other. War is horrendous.
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1 likeSeems like something you saw in a movie or read in a book tbh
0 likesNot really related. But in 7th grade, we had a teacher that was an ex-cop he gave a kid a bloody nose!
2 likesWhy is everyone claiming this story is bs or copy and paste?
26 likesWhether Damon was the student in that class room or not, this type of story is real enough to stop and think about what those men had sacrificed for our great country.
So back to the bridge you trolls, you are destroying true compassion and story telling.
@The Real Flenuan war on those who want war?
0 likesThat seems a little backwards.
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0 likesIt does, ur rite. Its a neccessary evil for us Americans
throw away right? It could be something as simple as “I took my dog for a walk yesterday and saw a snake”. There will always be comments saying it’s a lie for no apparent reason. People are bored and looking to annoy and argue about anything and everything. It’s a really unoriginal and contrived way of trolling that doesn’t take much tact or imagination to do. But people still fall for it.
8 likes"Holeman"? Really? Smith would've sufficed.
0 likes@Celestial Emissary lmao exactly
0 likes@azyn yes he does... do you know him?
0 likesDude, reading that made me cry. poor guy. thank you for showing some real empathy and not making fun of him.
6 likesI wonder how the actual citizens of Vietnam whom were being imperialized feel. I bet they’d feel lucky just to have PTSD
11 likesI am a troubled and misunderstood veteran and was forced to rely on my combat and survival senses against the abusive law enforcement of the small town of Hope, Washington.
2 likesI was in a bathroom on 4th of July at an outdoor bar. Whilst on the toilet I heard a man rush into the bathroom, panting quite loudly, almost panicked sounding. A few moments later he heard me make the terrible noise of spinning an empty toilet paper roll, and instantly the man says "don't worry, I got you man". He helped me and led, I payed attention to his shoes, I then found him at the bar, as I wanted to buy him a drink. After talking a few moments he revealed that he was panicked, he was an Iraq war veteran and when he heard a firework go off, he damn near lost it.
16 likesSUCH A BAD LIE
1 likeCelestial Emissary PTSD can trigger at any time and long after the victim thinks they’re recovered
3 likesPaulus lind He was probably thinking about his math class. You should look into real PTSD
1 like@Alex Worm no i had a history teacher that was a Vietnam vet, he had a few episodes like that. He wasn't nearly as fucked up as this guy but if you dig deep into Vietnam it was by far the worse war for vets. Not many of them that were infantry came back not fucked up
16 likesJesus this made me tear up
0 likesNow did it really happen? the world will never know
0 likes😯 that is so sad 😞
1 likeJesus Christ
0 likes@Alex Worm nah I'm a 32 year old millennial and had several Vietnam vet teachers. And like the students always knew which ones were in Vietnam. I don't think Gen Z has that opportunity as many Vietnam vets are retiring or retired now.
13 likes@joseph mengele04 lol you'd be hard pressed to find a Vietnam vet who didn't have to fight tooth and nail to get 40% disability for having both his legs and balls blown off in the war. The gov will make up any excuse they can to give out disability, especially back then.
10 likes@Celestial Emissary PTSD is triggered spontaneously. It's not like it just has to be a note book being dropped and then all of a sudden they have a flashback. They could hear litteraly gun shots and not have it trigger them someone may pay them on the back and that does it.
7 likes@Michael Anderson sorry to hear that... War is truly an incurable evil.
3 likesOne of our substitute teachers, Mr. Lee, did the exact same thing. It actually happened twice, because the second time a kid did it on purpose. Fucking awful.
10 likesDamon Kelly - that’s so sad :( sweet of you to be empathetic
2 likesAlmost the EXACT thing happened to a history teacher at my school. So sad.
4 likesBollox
0 likesEveryone here is so gullible, damon is lying an laughing at you
1 like@Kyle Kyle Stories like that are true! My late uncle was a Vietnam vet and he had a similar (although not has drastic), respond when a firecracker went off by him on the 4th of July when I was young. I will never forget that.
7 likesThis story is from a movie. Cant rememer which one, but word for word almost.
0 likesI was in the Army Infantry & deployed to Iraq were small arm fire, IEDs, rockets, grenades, & mortars happened daily. The only time I was ever jumpy was about the first week home. Everything is quieter, nervous a shit cuz my wife’s driving cuz I probly never drove faster than 10 mile an hr on ground. And bein more alert. But that faded quickly. But never diving & laying fetal out of fear. Never acting like that in Iraq when attack! But hey, maybe he wasn’t in a combat sound day after day & did get that scared in combat. Who knows. Everyone is different. We all act differently
4 likes@Celestial Emissary who the hell just randomly drops books in class?
0 likes@falseking989 and the English language too, it seems.
0 likeswow thats sad
0 likesMy dad was a Marine in Vietnam. He hasn't shown PTSD symptoms often during my life however he tried playing an old COD game or something similar and it messed with him. There may have been something outside class that made the teacher more susceptible at the time.
3 likesLiar
2 likesIf you had used a loud fart as the trigger noise instead if a book, it would have been funnier and more believable
1 likeLiar liar
1 likeAnd he did it all for a slimey Politicians re-election chances
1 likeThats so awful omg
0 likesMy dad was the dude hanging out a chopper shooting a 40 and a 50 cal. Machine gun.... Lucky he is ok as far as i can tell he had a little monkey and had a army uniform made for him....dad said the little guy loved beer and cigs! Lol other then that he doesn't talk much about the war he says it was so much worse for infantry guys..... see he never had to sleep out in the jungle although he was shot down on two different occasions so hard non the less! Bless all those boys that never came back and those who left there mind's in the jungle!
6 likes😂
0 likesI didn't come here to CRY Damon :( Poor Mr Holmen.
1 likeI smell bullshit. So what did he do whenever the school bells rang?
0 likesGuys its true, I was the notebook
1 like:( heartbreaking
1 likeThat is incredibly saddening... my uncle was the same way, I watched him go through multiple episodes as a child and I couldn’t understand what was happening at the time. It’s hard to believe/imagine unless you have seen it yourself.
1 likeWhat year was this?
0 likesThat's a cool fictional story.
1 liketrump would be like WHAT A LOSER !!!!!!
0 likesAlex Worm, it’s not bullshit. My fiancé was in the Marines, and did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wakes up from horrible nightmares, hiding and grasping his gun. To say it’s bullshit is extremely insensitive.
10 likes@joseph mengele04 is
0 likes@Alex Worm I feel like I read the same comment somewhere else a long time ago. Could be a copypasta or something.
0 likes@Crystal Henderson gee I wish you'd repeat yourself again for the people in the back who might not have heard you the first 15 times.
1 likeYou're a little on the subtle side, are you trying to suggest that seemed like a comment from a scared little kid that's trying desperately to make himself feel big and bad?
Maybe you should open your mouth a little wider when you talk.
In case we didn't hear you.
Thank you for sharing. Brought tears to my eyes
1 likeThanks for sharing this! Have a nice 2020+ :)
1 like@Toxically Masculine amen brother. Ive never been to "war", except spiritual....all day, erry day.sin, my mothers death, stalkers, lyme disease, Stress caring for a dying mother, losing 2/3 of my business, my part time job, snapped!!! Mental ward, involuntarily committed. Spirual. JESUS SAVES
0 likesLiar
0 likes@Michael Hill Touche.....
0 likes:(
1 like@Kyle Kyle lol
0 likes@Alex Worm LMAO 😂
0 likesAwwe
0 likesA counselor in my school who was tough as shit, broke down when talking to my health class. It was heartbreaking. And I can’t imagine what effect being a black man in that time had on him, not that it matters so much in war but you never know.
4 likesPretty sad story. Definitely not funny at all in my opinion.
1 likeYeah I really don't believe you.
0 likes💔😥💔
1 likeBreaks my heart...
1 likeDo you live in Alabama?
0 likesBro your beard is grey.... he’s dead
0 likes@Shaye2X Thanks for pointing that out Sherlock....
0 likes@Phil Ill it’s the lazy option vs the commonly unacceptable path of hard work and self regulation that leads to real freedom
0 likes@The Reptile Dude praying for peace for you stranger.
1 like@CassieIsMyGoobermentName dude what did I just read? That was a trip I read pretty much that whole doc
1 likeOmg this story has me crying 😭
1 like@Kyle Kyle
1 likeI knew a man like this, service in Nam.
I dropped my cell phone behind him on wooden floor. Loud thump.
Exactly the same thing happened but we didn't laugh because this was a friends father and we knew well enough this happens.
What's worse is when you hear the dreams.
It's one of the most painful things to listen to because you're not only dealing with the empathy for the victim, but his daughter (in my case). And the shame they felt even though it was never needed.
In other words this matches my experience. Almost to the letter
Story sounds sus, but in high school, a La crosse coach mentioned when a helicopter flew above his head how it reminded him of choppers or hueys
1 likeNo one know how war is horrific except who wittiness it
1 like@Andrew Mastrantoni used to play airsoft we had a few vets thatd show up from time to time, those bb grenades went off all the time no problem, then one day one was in the same structure as a vet, long story short, I didn't see him ever again at the field. Hope he's doing good.
3 likes@Damon Kelly “I hope your ok” huh ? lmaooo get out your feelings about your fake story 😂
0 likesWhat you get for killing innocents....
0 likes@joseph mengele04 ah yes, undermining the adverse psychological effects of partaking in a conflict as horrific as Vietnam. Glad to see the ignorance never ceases.
1 like@joseph mengele04 your names Joseph mengle, go troll somebody else
1 likeMy husband had severe PTSD , from both military and childhood abuse. His triggers are probably in the thousands, and sometimes he blacks out and doesn't remember a thing. This situation is absolutely possible and my heart goes out to this poor man.
4 likesA brilliant example of how humans are not designed to kill other humans looooool.
0 likesIt's you're
0 likesIt's a good thing Mr Holman wasn't your English teacher because he would be appalled. 🤦♀️🤣
American foreign policy...
0 likesMy late father did two tours as an infintry Marine. The sounds of helicopters put him on edge and he always had to face the door while at a restaurant. Rest in peace dad.
1 likeOmg . Imagine having the feeling of being constantly vigilant .. heart breaking
1 like@Juan 4Realz That's because he copied and pasted that story. I've read that story in so many videos. Also, 99% of stories in comments are fabricated from people seeking attention. I think you're one of those storytellers, that's why you're trying to try to make it sound legitimate.
1 likeSorry but I don't believe this story
0 likesMy grandfather would do this almost every time a plane went over the house. Made everyone get down and take cover as well. It was so sad, he had some SERIOUS demons all the was up until his death many years ago.
1 like@Kyle Kyle I had a teacher that was Vietnam vet and I saw something similar happened to my teacher.
1 likeYeah I have heard this story from both my uncles, and even my step brother lol.
0 likesDidn't this happen in a movie??
0 likes@Alex Worm r/nothingeverhappens
1 like@GreenWeenie No idea. This did happen to my teacher in the late 80's.
1 likeOh my... prayers for Mr. Holmen
2 likes:( This is so sad... I hope he's doing well.
1 likeLord bless his heart
2 likes@Kyle Kyle it’s not.... I’ve heard my paw wake up screaming when those pot helicopters fly super low over the house at night ......
3 likesI'm an Iraq vet. I went there 3 times as an infantryman with the 3rd Infantry between 2003 and 2008.
5 likesNearly all of my friends have some degree of PTSD and some have either died of drug overdoses or suicide in the years since.
One of my closest, a team leader who lost his leg in July 2008 to a deep buried IED, had a standoff with police just a year after his injury. Luckily, the cops had experience with guys suffering PTSD and were able to talk him down.
There's different I guess kinds of PTSD. It manifests in different ways. None of us have problems with loud noises and nearly all go shooting pretty regularly.
The most common emotion is regret. Regret over what we could have done differently. For me, it was civilian casualties.
When I was at my lowest, I had hallucinations of dead kids in my kitchen when I was drunk. It can bring you to some pretty dark places.
@Pedro Vaz
0 likesYou don't have a clue about these issues whatsoever
I believe you. I had a teacher in HS that was a Vietnam vet. He even shared with us he was a POW at one time. He would twitch, squeal and make manic noises and movements at times in reaction to us. I could tell at times even the smallest things would shake him up :/
2 likesdang i do not wanna be friends with the people who find these stories funny, theyre jerks
0 likesAt least he became a teacher
0 likes@Kaylan Clack I have PTSD as well, but have not served in combat or been in the military. Im a sexual assault victim so anyone touching me could make me combative and anxious. My BF is the only one who can really touch me without me getting anxious, but even with him I sometimes get annoyed if he touches me. Im constantly looking around and behind me whenever I go somewhere, its like a looming sense of paranoia. I dont get many flashbacks like most people with PTSD, but I'm almost always on edge in public.
1 likeOmg that so sad 😞
1 likethis is most definitely really guys lol my father was in the military and in the fire department and sometimes certain sudden loud sounds would cause him to go into fits of unimaginable and unexplainable rage. Lots of walls and Tvs had to be fixed but he’s okay now, went to doctors and treatment and is now all good :) but it was very confusing , some things wouldn’t be things that usually triggered rage in him so it was unpredictable. it’s been years since that’s happened i don’t think it will again, doesn’t mean he still isn’t jumpy in nature lol but it is very very much real
0 likesWow so sad :(
0 likesI hope Mr. Holmen is okay too.
0 likesptsd sucks for a lot of people... its sad becuase the ones most affected are rape victims, veterans, and severely abused children
1 likeno one deserves to have this disease because you can't escape what you saw
it replays in your head over and over and over and over. you can't escape that trauma ever!
@A Jack I have a friend who's dad was like this. Numerous times hes tried to kill some of us thinking we were enemies while calling us names. Crazy shit.
1 like@Randomness That was what my dad did too, Chinook sidegunner based out of Marble Mountain in Da Nang, 282nd Assault Helicopter Company. He used an M60 though. I still have a picture of him posing with it.
1 like@A Jack they saw the worst of humanity, & most of it was people from their own ranks. It's why I especially hate racism or any form of bigotry, any forms, b/c once you separate someone as "the other" any kind of depravity is possible. We're not descended from bonobos, we're descended from the more violent apes.
1 like@Benji The Rabbit
1 likeBenji isn't a rabbit, he's a bobcat.
@Michael Anderson i actually just watched a yt vid about a week ago talking about that pilot and that incident!
0 likesI love aviation disaster stories. Doesnt help my fear of flying but i cant get enough of them.
A heavy book dropping the right way is fucking loud in a way that most things hitting the floor are not
0 likes@Evan W how
0 likes@Celestial Emissary PTSD isn't that simple, it's not like every single bang will set off a reaction. Many times yes, that is the case. But if this guy is a teacher, maybe got some help to stabilize him before he began teaching, so he was okay. But one day, the emotions and thoughts aligned with the environment, and bam, he reflexed.
1 like@Andrew Mastrantoni That he said he never saw that teacher again is what's too hard to believe. Also, a notebook is a very light item, it dropping on the floor wouldn't trigger a catatonic PTSD response. The fact that he even "remembers" what caused the reaction is very suspicious aswell, and that the teacher yelled out "Get down". It just screams of fabrication from someone who's seen one too many war movies.
0 likesThanks for sharing
0 likesthose with ptsd like myself would very much understand that the notebook sound was a trigger... he got triggered and his brain brought him back to the war... a war that has ended BUT not for him, not for his brain
0 likesThat's so sad, I hope the poor man got the help he deserves
0 likes@The Reptile Dude much love and strength to you
0 likes@Alex Worm it seems to be but I hope it's not
0 likes@falseking989 who said it was funny?
0 likes@Alex Worm my thoughts exactly. I'm an Afghanistan Vet and PTSD didn't work like that for anyone that I've ever met. Most of what I saw was people come back and get really angry at things that they would have brushed off in the past. Of course other things like not wanting to go to events that remind them about their experiences, but the thing about someone dropping a book is garbage. Fake stories like this are why people think veterans are psychos when we're normal people just trying to fit in.
0 likesVictor Grant Holmen?
0 likesThere is an obits for him. He was with the Third Infantry Division He was wounded in Italy and received a purple heart.
this is the saddest comment on a youtube video i’ve ever read damn
0 likesLiving on a military instalation you have a lot of veterans teaching in Middle School and High School DoDEA. One was a vietnam vet who when recounting his story pointed at me and said "no older than him who never came home." I never tensed up more in my life. I must have been white as a sheet. What frightened me the most was his stare. not his usual one where he had a twinkle and 'said' "Now what I said might be true." This was a serious one.
0 likes😢
0 likesHeartbreaking..
0 likesYeah and my mother is Nancy reagen
0 likesAnd then the whole class clapped
0 likesSad :(
0 likes@Celestial Emissary there's a first time to everything
0 likesWay to be a bummer
0 likesI've heard this exact story at least a dozen times...
1 like@Celestial Emissary internet expert
0 likesHope this isnt bullshit. If true poor guy.
0 likesOh that's so heartbreaking... poor guy. PTSD is no joke..
0 likesMy eighth grade gym teacher told us about how in high school him and his friends would drop their textbooks on the ground to mess with the teacher who served in Vietnam
0 likesWow that’s rough. I hope that man is at peace right now
0 likesthere is absolutely no point in calling his name here.
0 likesDam
0 likesJennifer’s solutions GANG
0 likesThis used to happen to my dad all the time. so many different sounds would set him off. he was a signal man so would hear "messages decoded" in random sounds. war destroys people.
0 likesWow. For some reason this makes me feel horrible. I hope he is doing ok now. I hope he wasnt fired or anything
0 likes@A Jack Thats horrible. Imagine having something in your hands like a knife, hammer or tool. Maybe on your family members scare you and you accidentally kill them or hurt them badly. I would feel like dying or the worst and you wouldnt be able to control it since it is a reflex
0 likes🤔
0 likesRight..
0 likes@A Jack jumpscaring a war veteran especially Vietnam vet is the worst possible thing you could do lol
0 likes@Alex Johnson Nah the absolute worst thing you could have done around my dad (RIP) is mention "Jane Fonda" lmao, unless you were ready to listen to a whole entire angry rant.
0 likesNow imagine hundreds of millions of victims of your “democracy bombings” all around the world over the decades since the end of WW2..
0 likesOh man, that's so sad
1 like@Alex Worm it may sound unbelievable, but it's how PTSD work. I had a lot of friends held hostage in Nord-Ost theatre in Moscow. Some of them died, and one who survived had PTSD. When she heard loud noises she would duck and be in shock. It's so sad to watch.
1 likeHappened to my history teacher...for years after kids would walk by his class and yell "hit the deck" and he would. It was awful how people tortured him.
0 likesNever happened before.. read a comment and tears startet running down my face. Fuck war.
0 likesHe danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged.
0 likes@Raphaella Victoria you have no idea if he danced to taunt enemy's or not. Plus PTSD isn't just a dissociative disorder. Sometimes things become veiled. You know your not at war but you believe your being challenged by a combatant none the less. Sometimes they believe a conspiracy is involved to take their lives. What he did wasn't right but I do believe it's a direct result of his PTSD.
1 like@Andrew Mastrantoni A coworker of mine was in the Canadian forces for years. While playing paintball for the first time since deployment, he "snapped" and ended up breaking someone's collarbone as far as I'm aware. I don't doubt OP's story, sometimes you just snap with that kinda trauma.
0 likesThese stories sound plausible. Most combat veterans reactions would be more aggressive. But I can see how some would run and seek cover. Everyone snaps differently.
0 likesWow that's one hell of a sad story my friend It literally brought tears to my eyes.
0 likesAnd in 7th grade I'm sure you guys knew something was wrong but probably didn't understand until you got older or a parent explained. Plus it was as talked about then as it is now.
0 likesI remember we were discussing Vietnam in school, and this friendly guy who looked like Santa Claus was an administrator around the building. One of the nicest people you would ever meet. He started talking about how in Vietnam he had to take out a kid with a knife that was standing guard to an area they were trying to get to, and you could see the other teachers in the room panic, as they weren't expecting our high school class to suddenly get exposed to real shit like that.
0 likesThey tried to calmly, and respectfully shut it down and wrap it up, as he looked pretty shaken bringing the story up. It was just an awkward turn of events, and hopefully it's something he was able to get help with, because you could see it still haunted him.
@Alex Worm No it's very common for soldiers to experience PTSD that is triggered by certain noises. It's common knowledge this happens and very common for soldiers to have breakdowns.
0 likes@Kyle Kyle Have you ever looked up the definition of PTSD? It's symptoms? Vietnam vets have terrible PTSD from the horrors they saw.
0 likes😥
0 likesurgh this was depressing to read
0 likes@Celestial Emissary thats not how it works. Generally triggers are always uncomfortable but sometimes theyre easier to deal with than others.
0 likesAny situation to where its kill or be killed will absolute mulch someones soul. The chance that a person could die is...that chance that situation whatever and in this case war which is a year after year thing, there's nothing worse a person could go through.
0 likesWow the poor teacher so very sad
0 likesYeah I’m sure this happened . Sounds like a scene out of a drama movie
0 likes@Evan W are you like 16?
0 likesAnd today on 'This never happened'...
0 likesI don't believe you.
0 likes@Alex Worm 100% Bullshit.
0 likes@Alex Worm no, it's true I was there, I was the book
1 like@S Campbell lmao
0 likesLiar
0 likesMy grandpa dove under the dining room table when he heard the noon whistle (tornado siren) after he got back from the war..
0 likes@Alex Worm how?
0 likesDamn
0 likes@Evan W this kinda stuff happens all the time
0 likes@Celestial Emissary I have family and friends with ptsd, many times we would go shooting and have fun, jo problems, yet something just like OP said would happen, and they would freak out and avt like they are in battle for a moment. Mental illness is never clear and cut. Keep that in mind
0 likes@Andrew Mastrantoni This. The same stimulus will not always trigger the same response in someone with a severe case of PTSD.
0 likes@Kyle Kyle literally how?
0 likesDamn this hurts
0 likesMy goodness the poor man😞
0 likesThen everyone clapped
0 likesCool story, bro.
0 likesWhy don't you contact Mr. Holmen and actually tell him that? Chances of him ever seeing it are astronomically bad.
0 likesDamn , that is so sad. 💔😔
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likesstories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme aot of it.
0 likes@Andrew Mastrantoni Same. Had a guy come into the ED after having some issues with police and it turned out he was an infantry Sgt in the Army from a nearby base. He was intoxicated and really fucked up, but what I remember most was him crying about broken tourniquets and losing someone in combat as he was laying on the hospital bed. What I also remember very well are the nurses laughing at him and talking about going to taze him and everything just because he was being verbally belligerent with them. We had some asshole air force reserve O-6 doctor try to go into their puff their chest up and say that they knew what he was going through, but the doctor didn't know shit. Had one of the older hospital police officers go in their who was an 82nd airborne dude back in the 80s and 90s go in their and they talked for a good hour and half. Guy was pretty calm after. Really fucked with me because it was my first real experience with PTSD, but also with how callous and mean people in medicine can be. Its also why I kind of have a hate-boner for nurses lmao.
0 likesCap
0 likesBruh ive read this comment on another yt video, could at least say it wasnt your story 🤦🏽♀️
0 likes@rza 😂
0 likesWow this is devastating. Man I hope he's okay
0 likes@Paul Anthony I have lived in a war zone. I still react to any type of siren or similar sound that goes by. It makes me want to run for immediate shelter. It's not because I'm thinking about the war, it's just because my brain is on the constant lookout for danger, and it knows that when I hear that loud high pitched squeal, I have to run.
1 likeI imagine if that teacher's trauma was severe enough, then the story is perfectly plausible. I say so from my own experience.
War is not good for your mental health.
Yes, I am in therapy.
holy shit, is this story true? That poor guy.
0 likesI hope your math teacher is doing just fine
1 likeThey let a v vet with episodes to teach? That’s crazy. That would definitely have to be his first one!
0 likes@Alex Worm yes
0 likesHoly shit...
0 likesI feel like I'm about to cry after reading this
0 likes@Alex Worm no
0 likes@Evan W nothing bs about it.
0 likesWar destroys people but at the same time war never changes.
0 likesAuh
0 likes@Lyrawh proof?
0 likes@sivrahc prove it.
0 likesI had a teacher the exact same way. He would duck under a desk sometimes when he heard a book fall flat on the ground. Kids would do it on purpose. They didn't understand as kids tho.
0 likes@Alex Worm I had one history teacher who was veitnam vet who refused to show any intense images or videos of war because he would start to shake if he was in the room so when they showed a movie or video of war a sub Or another teacher would take over. But I agree the story above sounds fishy.
0 likeshow heavy was that notebook
0 likesBuncha degenerates in this reply section who's only extent of war they've seen was call of duty. Does it matter if it's copy pasted? This shit is real and if you don't believe it, stop shoving up other people's noses and get a life.
0 likes@Alex Worm I can tell you, as a veteran, that stories like this are absolutely true.
0 likesthis didnt happen so much that it actually unhappened things that had
0 likesterribly sad <3 much love
0 likesWholesome content
0 likesI had a vietnam vet as a math teacher too. He was a Navy pilot though. Being the clueless child I was I asked him what his favorite missions to fly were. "Milkruns" or non combat missions was his response. Fortunately I had the grace to not press the issue further, even though his response confused me until much later in life. I used to sit in his room during off periods and just chat with him. He eventually divulged that at one point his aircraft got damaged and his back seater couldn't eject. Heart breaking stuff.
0 likes@Paul Anthony astute observation
1 like@Evan Price I know dude,i can't believe the amount of trolls you get with nothing better to do than try and upset people and cry "Hack story" or "Bullshit" how would they know anyway,there are people who have done a lot worse in this world totally out of the blue.
0 likes@Mangos28 I've actually had my self I used to twitch when just a leaf blew past I was like that for a long time I'd jump and twitch at the slightest thing. That stopped after about 7 months but I'm still not very good in situations that to others would be easy and often take things too seriously,sorry it took me so long to reply,i bet you have to route out your comment now lol. 👍
0 likes@Ra'aya Swidler Ok my friend,i myself got my face badly smashed in when at a party after most of the people had left I was held there at knifepoint and he kept punching me in the face,it was horrible I honestly thought this guy was going to get bored with that and kill me,he had the knife in one hand and was hitting me with the other. I couldn't stop twitching for months after,it could be anything like a leaf blowing past or something,i was like that for months after,a nervous wreck. When I said he may have been thinking about it when the book dropped in the story it was just a thought really rather than a deep analysis of it. I'm glad you're in therapy for your troubles pal and hope you find piece with your demons.
0 likesCelestial Emissary someone being loud and someone popping a bag of chips aren’t the same
0 likesOh man I got through the video without 😭 and come across this.....
0 likesI don't believe that!
0 likes@Alex Worm This sounds true I had a similar experience with my teacher who in middle school thought a football was a grenade and yelled GRENADE GET DOWN! to the football team and to us as middle schoolers pretty much was all we talked about when his name was mentioned and it was funny as hell back then but now that i’m a little older and realize he had ptsd attack feel really sorry for him. His name was Coach Schwabb.
0 likesDid this really happen Damon
0 likesI'll take stories that didn't happen for 100$
0 likesI hope those kids apologized. For that to happen in front of my eyes, I would’ve been scared and concerned for him ):
0 likesDamn
0 likesoh god, i’m crying. my heart bleeds for him
0 likesA scene much like you described happened with my math teacher back in 1992. It was heartbreaking, confusing and we didn’t know how to respond appropriately. I’m thankful that the school principal and counselor took time to educate us. It was the first time I truly understood PTSD and the complexities of trauma. I now work in mental health and specialize in trauma.
0 likesThis never happened
1 likeDefinitely not Mr. Holmen, and I don't have a similar story, but I also had a math teacher in the 7th grade who was a Vietnam vet. My teacher was a Mr. Schwartz.
0 likes@Alex Worm so what if it was, Don't let the truth ruin a good story
0 likesPeople arguing about if this specific story is true or not... What's the point? We know this happens.
0 likesgreat story, so imaginative. dropping his not book lol. troll
0 likes@Paul Anthony wwwwwoooowwwwww
0 likesNot the same as war per se but I knew a girl that was in the library at Columbine. The girl next to her was her friend and was shot in the face with a shotgun. They initially thought she got some pellets too but we were told they had to pull pieces of her friend's skull out of her. The following 4th of July we we're all outside waiting for a nearby fireworks show. Once they started popping off she fell to the ground and absolutely lost it. Screaming, kicking, just absolutely panicked. I've never seen anyone that terrified before or after and hope I never have too. Last I saw on social media she has 2 failed marriages and isn't close to her 3 kids. She dresses really dark and goth. Not that that's a bad thing but I think that event defines every moment of her life now. She doesn't seem to be able to have close relationships.
0 likes@Jonny14 did you not see the beginning of this documentary.?
0 likesI find it so so horribly sad that I have the exact same story about a high school teacher. Almost to the T. Bless em all
0 likes@Celestial Emissary this is late but my mom loves the 4th of July. Her birthday is the 5th and we always go in a big family trip for it. However, she deployed to Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Iraq because she was in the army for 29 years. One year (and this was after she retired) on the 4th we obviously popped fireworks. My mom freaked out and thought it was gun shots.
0 likesDoesn’t matter how long it’s been, ptsd can catch you out of nowhere…
@Alex Worm how 🗿
0 likesLol
0 likesThis was so hard to watch. My dad was a Vietnam veteran. He never, Ever; talked about his time in theatre. He only ever told me about his time in Okinawa, during R&R. He was always disciplinarian, but very clear with his intent. When asked about the war he used to say:"I don't want to talk about that". But over the years, his nightmares and flashbacks became worse, and more intense. In the last 2 years he started having issues with his mobility, falling out of bed, tripping , complications from diabetes excaberated the symptoms. My heart broke the day he called me up and said : "I wake up, and I want to jump out of a helicopter, and kick somebody's ass, but all I can do is go shopping". He died July 16, suddenly, but peacefully, thank the most high, but damn; that was heavy.
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Sorry for your loss. I can't imagine coming home and having to live with that stuff for the rest of your life. I have studied Vietnam and many wars in general in depth because they interest me but Vietnam really is one of the most brutal there was. It is very sad a lot of the veterans never got the thanks they deserved either after enduring that chaos. I hope your dad is somewhere better and at peace. And I wish I could thank him for his service. Bless you.
51 likescan i ask why vietnam is referred to as the "theatre"? genuinely curious about it
8 likes@John Doe it’s “theater/theatre of war”. A common expression to describe warfare area.
58 likes@John Doe the area wherein the war takes place is referred to as the theatre.
6 likes@Finished!!!!!! cool, thank you.
8 likesRIP. Sounds like a hell of a man.
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0 likesI'm sorry for your loss man. I understand what your dad was going through. I was in the Afghan War and I don't ever talk about it with my family/friends. It's unfortunate because even if you did talk about it, non-military people wouldn't understand either way. God bless you and your family dude. Your hero of a father can rest peacefully now.
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0 likes@Prison Mike with high-speed internet access your profile name definitely sounds like someone who was in Afghan war. 🤣
1 likeAs a combat vet myself, I can tell you that 99% of the war stories told by people are either fabricated or outright lies. The real stories seldom get told because we don't want to tell them. The only person I've ever discussed my combat experiences with is my girlfriend, and that was only after we'd been together two years and her asking me to share them, and even then I still omitted some details that I'll never talk about to anyone.
13 likesI’m sorry for your loss…
1 like@Jake Koenig Bryce Courtney's "Four Fires" deals with the subject of telling a war story. A very moving book. Genius in it's execution.
1 likeSorry for your loss, super heavy indeed
0 likesGod bless him, a true patriot.
1 like@John Doe Also, it's not just referring to specifically Vietnam. It's used in the military for any location the military deploys to.
0 likesI want to like the comment, but it needs to stay at 777 likes
0 likesMy condolences to you my YouTube friend. Hope your dad's at peace and up there looking down on you. I will 🙏 for you and your family. Even though alot of my countrymen got killed including civilians but I'm pretty sure your dad had not been part of the shady side of that war when it came to the release of the chemical weapons on enemy soldiers and also civilians which I find a crime against humanity.
1 likeSuffice to say your dad is a hero and from the bottom of my heart thank him for fighting for our freedom and also fighting for democracy not only for the US or South Vietnam but for the whole world. Even though it didn't end the way we wanted it to at least your father did the right thing in the end no matter what people say
Sorry for the long essay.
@Prison Mike with high-speed internet access Have you ever considered writing down about it? It helped me with my own (little in comparison) trauma, to write everything, details about what happened, what I saw, what I heard, what I understand and how I felt. It was my way of saying "now I can forget about it, It's all written and won't be erased no matter what". It forces you to organize memories, understand the most of what happened, and put words over it.
0 likesYou don't even need to show it to somebody (I didn't), just write it down, write corrections if needed, then let it be. Either people will find it after war, or you can eventually show it in case of (therapist, etc).
Plus, those personnal stories and intimate point of views are goldmines for historians.
Jesus. Thanks for sharing... I
0 likesHave no words
My dad was in Vietnam, too, and he never killed a cop on a traffic stop.
0 likesI can’t imagine being Andrew’s parents. How do you come to terms with all your kids dying tragically by forces you can’t control? Those poor people.
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God Bless America
11 likesOk? Andrew was sa Vietnam Veteran. Stinkheller volunteered.
0 likesThe way this country has treated its veterans is utterly abysmal
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What do you mean "has"?
27 likesAre you talking about the dude that gunned down a cop?
9 likes@EnriHoward all veterans of war. Everybody needs a soldier during wartime but don't want to deal with the aftermath.
138 likesSoldiers are asked to do horrible things and suffer both mentally & physically in the name of duty, patriotism, whatever. Yet when the gunfire stops, both society & government sweep them away to be left ignored, belittled & ultimately mistreated.
Thankfully there are good veteran support groups as well as companies the offer veteran discounts to help them along.
Troll in this thread, don't feed them
71 likesKillers deserve respect now?
20 likesLook at what "they" did about Afghanistan. Flubbed the whole thing and then the VA has the audacity to send out a patronizing email telling me and veterans that our anger and concerns "may be misplaced"
28 likesHint: they're not
As someone who also has C-PTSD hearing loud noises such as a siren are HELL, you panic so hard and feel very much under threat. I am sad they did not consider this.
24 likesPart of the problem is that there are SO MANY veterans because we are at perpetual war. More patients = less resources to go around.
10 likes@Pyrolysis i mean what the army is supposed to do after that?
0 likes@EnriHoward especially those with severe mental problems that can become dangerous.
0 likesThere should be programs where they have therapy and job placement. I’ve always thought stable veterans should have first try for police, firefighter, and EMT jobs. But, those with PSTD deserve a lot of help. It’s hard to imagine the fear, paranoia, and anxiety 🥲
3 likesThe worst part is how it creates them in the first place
1 like@Jacob Wooten no.... not really. They obviously need the military.
0 likesIt’s no different in the UK, I can assure you.
1 likeThe way this country is still sending its young population to do ethnic cleansings is utterly disturbing.
6 likes@EnriHoward I think the guy means the country needs to do something about the mental health of soldiers after war. They need to be helped, they need to be transitioned into society smoothly. They need to make them happy and avoid such depressive and insane experiences
1 like*The way this country has treated the millions of people slaughtered in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc is even more abysmal.
4 likesIt continues today...
0 likes@PowerNapProductions not that they were treated any better before the invasion.
0 likesThe way the US generally treats all of its citizens is fucking disgusting. Sending young men and women to die in imperialist for profit wars and then shitting on them when they get back home is just the cherry on top.
4 likes@ThatAngryGerman why imperialist, rather security reasons
0 likes@Israel Groysman lmfao, you don't actually believe the US invaded any country after WW2 for "security reasons", do you?
4 likesThere is a great documentary here on youtube about young veterans returning home from vietnam addicted to heroin, and they get no support whatsoever. Its either methadone or a 7 day detox and then they get kicked out on the street again, treated like trash.
1 likeOne guy tells a story that he started using heroin in vietnam after being forced to kill a kid, and he used heroin to cope with the trauma. Its just really sad but its a great documentary.
It is more about the way countries lie to people to go to war for them, about how they are ''protectin'' their country, protecting ''freedom'', if you are going to war by force (conscription) i do feel sorry and its not the person's fault but if you willingly decided to go to war i just can't feel nothing for that person.
0 likes@Israel Groysman i am talking about the US, i didn't knew they were invaded by Vietnam, or iraq, or Syria, or Afghanistan, how could they get imprisoned if they never got invaded in the first place? Ah yes the US invaded hmnnnn interesting
1 like@henrique andrade you said "countries" plural. Nevertheless, your claim was that it is immoral to protect your freedom, and that you cannot feel anything let's say to policeman who is bullying a criminal. Well it is his job, to make freedom work he has to punish bad guys, and so it is on the international level: for Americans to have freedom you must punish bad guys. Or you will not have any freedom.
0 likes@henrique andrade well it is true for liberal democracy like the US, but it isn't true for communists or jihadists
0 likes@no one yeah never knew killers are respected now
0 likes@Israel Groysman care to tell us where you were on January 6th, 2021?
1 likegood.
0 likes@Jeff Redfern i was probably working, but you shouldn't say such words to anyone left-wing, they think it's fascism. But yeah, i'll check that with management on Sunday and then report to you, if there were days off.
0 likes@Pyrolysis "Has" because things have significantly improved for veterans in the past couple of decades.
0 likes@Kieran Casey The US has a large number of veterans because it has an overall population of over 333 million people. What, did you expect the same number of US vets as somewhere like England? If so that's incredibly incorrect.
0 likesThe US has approximately 6 times the number of people England does yet the American veteran population is less than 10 percent. The English veteran population is also around 10 percent yet for some reason, you don't have this same idea of veterans in other countries as you do of America.
Your comment really shows how mislead you are to make this appear to be a uniquely American thing and for you to speculate on "neverending conflicts" as the sole reason.
The fact that your crap was a serious thought that you typed out is despicable.
"treated", like as in Past tense?
0 likesAnd the first mistake was sending them to fight a war in another country instead of relying on them to protect their own
0 likesSome of it's veterans, not all. My nephew was in the air force for three years after joining voluntarily, spent all his time paving runways in the middle of bum fuck nowhere in South Dakota, never saw a day of combat, called to duty, ect before being discharged. He has no issue getting his VA benefits for school, housing loans, ect. Meanwhile my father was drug into the Vietnam war against his will, got a few weeks of training and sent overseas unprepared as a medic to get shot and blown up by a landmine and had a metal plate in his head and severe PTSD. Even after all that he was only allowed to leave once the army decided his time was up. He had to fight for years to get his VA benefits leaving my family poor in the meantime because neither him or my mom could work since they were disabled. Even after he died in 2011 my mother still has to fight to this day to get the VA off their asses and get the spousal benefits my father earned. It seems the worse off you are after you serve in the military, the worse the government treats you.
2 likes"I am glad to be getting out of this place" genuinely caught me so off guard. His body had returned from Vietnam but his spirit and mind lay with his lost comrades. I sincerely hope he is in a better place and that the affected family was able to receive closure
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@Baki Elh sadly it seems like that's what he wanted in a way reunited with his comrades RIP andy
2 likesNetflix needs to hire this man to do true crime series, and pay him well. The storyline, production quality, fact checking, and information delivery is the best I’ve seen.
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none of that is in the interest of netflix though
782 likesYea just um that thing
33 likesthe truth netflix has a true crime section
38 likes@áine is okay netflix does have a crime section and as an example let's take forensic files. They use all sorts of scientific and objective evidence to prove things about the accused and the victims. However netflix also has mostly social justice crap that logically goes against these same things. Dobt forget netflix is run by cringy activists with with agenda to push.
192 likesImagine if the TRAs watched one of the "how we identified this skeleton to be a white female" episodes and has it removed like they did to bill Nye's episode about probability
It would ruin this guys credibility by becoming a netflix series. Anyways not enough sexualization of children to be considered on their platform
285 likesNah, Netflix would take control and ruin it.
185 likes@the truth LMAO!!!! 😂😂😂 the truth indeed.
30 likesNetflix is probably already picking stories from this channel. Chris Watts documentary (debuted 1yr ago here) is coming out next week!!! Wouldn’t be surprised by more to come.
52 likesthe truth 😂😂 truue
3 likesi agree!
0 likesI'm looking for more videos like this
2 likesLindsey R amazing idea i’d differently watch !
1 likeSpot on!
1 likewhy do you want this magnificent content to turn to shit? why?
26 likesI'd rather not want to see Netflix adding dramatic action movie music with enough flashing lights to give someone an epilepsy attack just to appeal to immature audience who can't sit on their ass for 3 minutes without being overwhelmed with every type of stimulus possible
10 likesThey have a Patreon :) I got onto Patreon specifically for this channel and for Bombards Body Language.
7 likesand his speaking voice is easy listening also. I'm happily addicted to these uploads 🤣
8 likesFuck Netflix, JCS is doing just fine like this being funded by the audience with total creative freedom.
24 likesThey basically took the first 3 videos off this guys channel combined them and made them into a movie on Netflix already I watched it last night
3 likesNetflix can’t afford this shit lol
4 likesI’ve been saying that same thing for a while. This dude is a hidden YouTube gem. Seriously, his talent for this far exceeds that of your usual YouTuber. He is a genius Kubrick, Spielberg, or Lucas ect just waiting to be discovered.
3 likesHe is brilliant
2 likesSpoiler alert, Jim cant swim is not "a guy" it's a group of people
16 likesfacts, I watched the netflix documentary about Chris Watts' case and all I could think about the whole time was how much better Jim's version was
2 likesFr
0 likesNo I don't want to pay, sorry, would rather become a patron, not when Netflix is releasing Cuties.
1 likeNetflix would not do it unless he promoted CP or their political views cause he won't make them billions.
2 likesThey'll ruin it. This is fine
3 likesAnd he's pretty funny too!
0 likesThe narrator doesn’t do every single thing, he’s just the incredibly talented narrator lol. They’re all amazing at what they do. Netflix doesn’t deserve them, they have enough money. This is fine.
10 likesNetflix is trash stop
4 likes@Bilis they don’t need everything under the sun just because people don’t know how to google videos lol
0 likesNot taking anything away from what you said, but this is probably a whole team of people. The person talking does the narration afaik and probably not much else
5 likes@NeThZOR you’re absolutely right
0 likesI’m addicted.
0 likesI AGREE
0 likesUgh and the soundtrack is always FIREEEEE!
1 likeWhy dumbing down his content when he has over 1M loyal viewers on his channel and is entirely responsible for the creative direction of his work? Netflix sucks.
2 likesdat intro do
0 likesnintendo, hire this man
0 likesYes and his voice.. the only imo who can narrate like Peter Thomas. Totally captivating in every way!!
0 likesFuck Netflix, who needs it! We don't need them to put a spin and restrictions to Jim's work. This is everything! He should get payed tho, I agree 100% bro
2 likesLindsey R no way... they will destroy him.
0 likesI hope you know that JCS is actually a team of people and that the narrator is a hired VO guy and doesn't have anything to do with the editing and research. Just trynna put credit where it's due is all!
8 likesNa screw Netflix, but your point is valid. Dude deserves some recognition 🤙🏼
1 like@Marquis M Woah, I had no idea, thank you tho
1 likeThe narrator not the one who does the actual writing. He's an awesome narrator to be sure, and he also does narration for other works.
2 likesBut i agree that JCS deserves all the recognition and success that comes it's way.
AMEN.
0 likesAnd narrative style. 🔥
0 likesSupport his Patreon? Why have Netflix hire him when you can ;)
0 likesPlease no. Netflix is more occupied with content that presents 12 years twerking, they do not care about anything that presents no agendas
5 likesPlease stop promoting monopolization of valuable content by rich and irresponsible companies
3 likesI agree with that except, he and ALL successful (or potentially so) yt creators stay INDEPENDENT. The good will follow, rather then the good being the followers. Stay INDEPENDENT individuals.
1 likeAgree!
0 likesBoycott Netflix
0 likesMy favorite now over anything I've been watching!! Best I have ever seen!!!
0 likesseriously
1 likehonestly, Netflix is saturated with subpar crime documentaries that lack structure and quality.
2 likesit's literally flawless
0 likesAmen!
0 likesMaybe Shudder instead
1 likeYeah, let's put completely free and awesome content behind a pay wall! Good idea dude.
0 likeshes to good for netflix
0 likes@the truth oof
0 likes@áine is okay woosh
0 likesBrooooooo
0 likes100% agree! His meticulous attention to detail is outstanding.
1 likeNo, Netflix is absolute garbage and would ruin everything great about this channel.
2 likesSure it does, if you want it ruined.
1 likeI was just thinking of one of his videos and couldn't remember where I saw it, I almost checked netflix until I remembered it was actually YouTube and luckily I found it again by searching criminology lol
0 likesPeople always say this like Netflix is a badge of quality or something. Just keep your terrible career advice to yourself. Sheesh.
0 likesLindsey R.3 : yeah man I agree with that, I just assumed he was professional from the production value an his voice, he sounds like a pro, would love to see him do British storys aswell, haven't seen any yet but I love this guy he does the story's justice 👍
0 likesComentend then read comments lol, I didn't think of the fact you tube is free to watch but the guy would still get money from views likes an subs still on here no, but all original posting comment was getting at is this guy is really professional an I'm guessing by his voice that he's a big earner with a good job an he enjoys doing them as he's interested in psychology, I've heard of doctors with channels so you get all sorts, there is so many cases for this guy to do there's not enough hours in the day, I've only seen American ones on here, could be wrong, he was just appreciating the fact he's good at his craft
0 likesThe narration is super clear and excellent.
0 likesAgreed
0 likesAgreed but I’m pretty sure this channel is run by multiple guys
0 likesI was thinking about that yesterday. I think this channel should be shopping this series around.
0 likesNO THANKS, this very intelligent gentleman is thriving on his own just fine
1 likeWhich is why it may be touch. Studios and production companies want to feed us the frills and bells and whistles giving 1-hour shows with about 12 minutes of information.
0 likesIt's not in my interest either. Don't. Wanna pay Netflix when I can watch it on here
0 likes@the truth what the hell are you talking about
0 likesCould this storyteller be the next Peter Thomas?
0 likesAbsolutely
0 likesAnd psychology
0 likesHe's too good for Netflix
0 likesFor real , this youtuber is legit. Good quality stuff.
1 likeyou mean cash in from all his work and pay him near nothing?
0 likesIts his voice
0 likesNetflix is scum. They'd ruin his shows with their censorship.
1 like@the truth and why is netflix not interested, i will tell you why. its because he is not woke, feminist soyboi, thats why.
1 like@JackobyUK exactly
0 likesFACTS!
0 likesNetflix = garbage.
0 likesJcs = professor in crime documentaries
He would tarnish his name associating with crapflix.
so why would he go to Netflix
0 likesAnyplace that would try to hire would have their own agenda and probably fuck things up. I hope he's making enough money on here because these are truly very interesting to watch.
0 likesIt's a group of people. The narrator is just a narrator. He has his own channel but I can't for the life of me remember his name.
1 likeThe absolute Best!!
0 likesNaw. Itll get too diluted. Like Joe Berlingers stuff. Paradise Lost? Fantastic. His stuff for netflix? Meh...
0 likesNO! Let him make these videos the way HE wants to. Netflix or any other company would just water his content down and make it unwatchable.
1 likeThey already copied a video of his basically, the one about chris watts
0 likesStarted with the Colorado man that killed his family forget his name lol
0 likesThey can't hire a boss
1 likeNetflix can stay the f away and not ruin this content.
1 likeI agree wholeheartedly. Sign him up!
0 likesI don't know if they would be interested. At one point they were making 40k/month on Patreon.
0 likesWhy do you want this to go corporate?
1 likeAren't you happy with it here?
I hope you have shares in Netflix if you're going to promote it
that's not what netflix is thou
0 likesLol. I swear i was thinking the exact same thing.
0 likesThis is now content i signed up for.
nah hes not biased enough
0 likesNo he needs to stay here so he isn't forced to do some woke commentary nonsense
1 likeAgreed
0 likesYes
0 likesNetflix is not interested in facts
1 likeAny mainstream bs would hurt this guy. They'll make him sign a contract that disregards his style.
0 likesNetflix would make it overly dramatic to broaden the target audience
0 likesForeal foreal
0 likes@the truth morning morning
0 likesit really is
0 likesDude. Imagine what JCS could do with a beefy budget...shit.
0 likesAgreed.
0 likesI honestly thought this was a tv show.
0 likesNah they'll fire him and hire some POC lgtbqai+ disabled person instead lol
0 likesI bet he makes a lot with videos this nice
0 likes@Chases Meme dump yeah, watch the rest of his videos
0 likesFACTSS
0 likesHe is making very less now a days 😐
0 likesnetflix would probably just try to make it way too dramatic and flashy. it’s best to keep it the way it is.
1 like@Joe Mama I agree as far as the content, but the point is that this dude deserves some serious $$ for what he does
1 likeI agree that he deserves to be compensated quite well for his production quality but Netflix wouldn’t allow the true creative freedom necessary!
0 likes@áine is okay What do you mean?
0 likesThose be big facts
0 likesIf I'm not mistaken he also narrates some of the videos on a YT channel called "Audit the Auditors", which is also a well-done series. It's about police officers who seemingly make up their own laws during confrontations with American citizens.
0 likesmaybe we would get more than 1 video every 3 months tho? not complaining i love them but i think we all want more.
0 likesThe voice we hear is most likely a narrator, it's so neatly calm and concise.
0 likesNetflix would find a way to taint the simplicity of this content. Overdramatize things.
0 likesHe doesn’t even have the annoying monotone YouTube voice!
0 likesNah Netflix would ruin it
1 likethis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likesNo JCS video is complete without comments bitching and moaning about Netflix lol
0 likesIMMEDIATELY
0 likes@Crypto1X try saying it like this instead "Those are big facts"
0 likesPretty sure this guy is just a narrator and the production/development credit goes to JCS. I think he has his own channel though!
1 likeScrew Netflix, I don't understand how often I see this comment on popular YT content makers. it's perfect as is.
0 likesPlease no. Every single Youtube channel that gets contracts in TV or streaming services noticeably loses influence over their own material and style. Also, they stop posting quality videos on their own Youtube channel.
0 likesNetflix wouldn't be interested. Their interests are more congruent with sexualizing minor children in the name of "avant garde art" because it's authored by a black French woman
0 likesseems like he’s better off staying on his own. he’s doing great making compelling content and has full creative control and a wider audience here.
0 likesNah netflix always has to turn their true crime stuff into a narrative and dramatise it. This is way better. Would be worse if it was overproduced
0 likesplease do not. as soon as netflix gets its filthy hands on it, it'll be worthless. let the man do his stuff without interference and we'll keep getting brilliant content like this
0 likesno, keep him independent. This is a better platform for him. He works at his own pace with no contract or higher ups telling him what do or what show. He has complete control here on youtube. If he goes to Netflix, these videos would suck ass
0 likesI would watch
0 likesThe problem there would be getting recent Netflix to make a "True" anything.....
0 likes🙄
no
0 likesHe is just a narrator, jcs is an entire team
1 likethe narrator isnt the creator of the channel btw
1 likeAgreed
0 likesAmen
0 likesNo. Why would you suggest this bullshit? Netflix will only ruin it
0 likesCouldn't agree more.
0 likesi will respectfully say ...netflix cant touch jim, we just need to be in awe of him lol
0 likesI for one, concur
0 likesI dont want to see netflix get their grubby hands onto this content and ruin it for everyone else
0 likesIf Netflix was to hire this guy they would totally taint his style and the very essence of what make his videos great. Netflix ruins most of everything they touch.
0 likesthey are better then netflix
0 likesYouTube could honestly hire him
0 likesNah he's too good for Netflix
0 likesUnfortunately the reason these videos are so good is that the creator/narrator doesn't draw them out with unnecessary padding like Netflix would do. If Netflix were to snap this dude up, he would be forced to change his method from the one we all enjoy.
0 likesExactly. Agreed. Does he monetize these videos? I'm on YT Premium so I can't tell but I really hope he does because we want mooore of this
0 likesUgh no thanks. Why you wanna ruin this
0 likeshe's leagues better than that trash on Netflix
0 likesI think the narrator of JCS is NOT the guy who runs the channel... The narrator has his own channel, with hardly any subs, like a few thousand IIRC.
1 likeGoogle it, that's how I found it. 'jcs narrator' or something like that
Hes making a ton of money out of Youtube and have full freedom of production, and millions of people watch his channel, why would that be a good idea?
0 likesAlso check out the "Casefile" podcast. They complement eachother really well!
0 likes@the truth kekw, last part is probably true
0 likes@the truth I love that your name matches so well with that comment
1 likeThey could pay him to make a documentary about Jamal Kashoggi... That way, they would own the rights to it and they could chop the film up into little pieces to keep anyone from hearing what it had to say.
0 likesI think on long term he would make more money on YouTube than Netflix.
0 likesI actually thought that this was like a company or something the production quality is just mind boggling
0 likes@M. Chris Watts isn't a "story from this channel", it's worldwide.
0 likesThe narrating is so satisfying too.
0 likesPeople are hell-bent to be fucked by corporations. He has somewhat freedom here in YT.
0 likesNah. Youtubers moving to TV or Netflix rarely ends well.
0 likesThis isn't just a man. The narrator is just that, the narrator. JCS is a whole team.
1 like@the truth wtf are you talking about
0 likesagree 100%.
0 likesHis masterpiece on the Jussie Smollette incident was pulled by youtube. Finest forensic psychology documentary ever produced. It outclassed anything Dateline, 20/20 or 60 minutes ever produced.
0 likes@M. a Netflix Original
0 likesI don't know man being chained to netflix doesn't sound all that good. he's doing well with youtube.
0 likesNetflix needs to fo
0 likesThe guy in the videos is a contractor/YouTuber they pay to voice the videos. I don’t believe he has a criminal psychology background but I could be wrong.
1 likeFact checking...not quite. The Battle of Hue took place in 1968 (not 1969) and was fought by the 1st Marine (not the 3rd Marine Division). I'm a huge fan of this channel but 2 incorrect facts in the first 4 minutes missed the mark. And yes I'm being that guy right now.
0 likesFACTS!!!
0 likesNetflix needs to cease to exist.
1 likeand all of this content is free, too. it blows my mind.
0 likesAnd the music 🎶 ❤️
0 likesTotally agreed
0 likesJust as someone who's been binge watching these ever since finally clicking on the Youtube recommended video (What pretending to be crazy looks like), I must say that this is the greatest video from your channel. Even though it is your least popular please understand that it was well received and that many viewers will appreciate content of this ambiguous and moderately sympathetic nature.
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Agree, I'm amazed at how he put everything together. The editing is also amazing.
8 likesYou nailed it. I’ve come back to watch this video a few times. It is the best on the channel, which says A LOT.
6 likesMy dad was a Vietnam vet, he had issues and died in prison in 2015. The similarities between my dads story and Andy’s story are profound. I find it so moving. This video has helped me understand my father, which is something I’ve spent my life trying to do.
Completely agree with you. This video is not only one of the best on the channel, but one of the best pieces of content I've ever consumed. The first thing I did when I heard about youtube taking down some his videos was frantically check if this was still up. The fact that it's the least watched is so funny to me, such a hidden jewel.
0 likesFinally! I thought i was alone!
0 likesAgreed. To me...this is the best JCS video. Part of it is the topic itself...but the treatment of the topic.... it is masterful.
0 likesThis is truly one of the saddest true crime stories I’ve ever heard. The music chosen is such a chilling touch. I felt sick to my stomach when I saw that live dash footage. It was like I was watching it happen and kept whispering to myself ‘ oh no’ thinking it could be stopped.
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I agree.
1 likeGod bless the fallen officer. Her speech was great. Tragic.
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Truly. And the murderer got off with an eye for multiple lives. He can complain, but he got off nice.
23 likes@Jacob Wooten he sure did get off nice
8 likesthat was an easy death sentence case in an ideal world
@Priyanshu Sharma lmao, the police completely screwed over that poor soon to be mother, multiple times, by their desire to "get revenge" of the guy that got one of their own. They saved that murderers life and they have no one to blame but themselves. If they'd have done their jobs, even after the vicious assault, and got him medical attention when he asked, he probably would have got the death penalty.
13 likes@Callum W lmao case isnt over and headlines have it that jurors wanting to put him to death.
1 likeI know it’s been said, but the way you seamlessly weaved those cases and narrative together was a goddamn chef kiss of a work of art. What a great documentary
309 likesYou know its a banger when yt asks twice if you even wanna watch it
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Fact check true
853 likesLmao fuck. I thought it was a glitch
1757 likesYeah I had to verify using a credit card with Google!!!
800 likes@loxxxton poxxxton lmao
234 likesOn god
66 likesit asked me three times
405 likesyoutube is run by tyrants that hate freedom
468 likes3 times
77 likesYup 3 times got me thinking oh shit here we go!
162 likesyt asked me three times :flushed:
71 likesanyone know more true crime channels to binge?
126 likesNever been truer words
20 likes@Rand Althor we still use it though
25 likes@Rand Althor that's a little much for just pressing one button extra to watch it
94 likesIs there a way I can get YT to recommend these videos to me
42 likesI got asked 3 times. 2 of the same warning and 1 different one
32 likesYeah I had to verify too, did it, and yt didn't want to show me even then😂
22 likes@Rand Althor lol calm down buddy
27 likes@Rand Althor i do agree on that tho, just not in this case
11 likes@Christopher As if THAT is all that makes what I said true. It's the deplatforming, the banning, the censorship and the pushing of fallacious narratives. Are you really that clueless?
57 likesYoutube gave themselves a "free speech award" a while back. Hilarious.
@Static Gaming How is what I said not calm? In fact it is the calmly-stated, plain-to-see truth.
16 likes@Rand Althor free speech means the government can't censor your speech doesn't mean a company can't censor and dictate what you can say on their platform are you really that clueless?
67 likes@pat the rick nexpo, reignbot, mr ballen
21 likesLmao yes
2 likesActually that's not correct. You can click it countless times I til it load's. If you wait til the video loads and then click it, you only have to do it once.
13 likes@pat the rick That Chapter is phenomenal! Soo many videos to binge on, most 20+ minutes.
11 likes@Christopher true but big tech basically has a monopoly, they should at the minimum be considered a publisher since they want to pick and choose what to have on the site. Then they would be responsible for the naratives they put out (like when YT removed videos saying corona came from a lab, and are now stating the same thing they banned people for). And big tech has a big influence on new legislation. So to simplify it down to "private company can censor what they want" is very dangerous.
18 likes@Christopher typical neoliberal response. "It's ok when giant, monopolistic transnational corporations violate our natural rights, theyre private companies"
30 likes@Christopher Also, in censoring they are acting as a "publisher" when they are legally a "platform". Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
21 likes@Rand Althor holy shit dude, calm down. Its a youtube video
26 likesThrice for me
0 likes@Rand Althor Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd no.
13 likesLame ass
yt asked me three times, lmfao
0 likes@Rand Althor violates? No it's litterally stated that they can dictate what is said on their platform. It's said that the government can't dictate your speech
16 likes@Rand Althor there has already been a documented court case that the first amendment doesn't apply to private companies including YouTubers that's not a "neoliberal response" that's just factual
27 likesHahah facts
1 likeIkr? Amazing content
1 like@Rand Althor And you know this becouse you watched videos on youtube?! :D
6 likesBro that happened to me too lol
1 likeFukin A. That's got me excited right now. They removed the share option too like they did on the full George Floyd bodycam footage.
1 likeJust thought the same thing lol
1 likeThree for me
0 likes@pat the rick truly fascinating horror. Lots of true crime, and other things you'll find, interesting
1 likeFor tealt
1 like@Rand Althor they’re not Facebook!
1 like😂😂👍👍👍
2 likesFacts
1 likeOkay so it was not only me
1 likeLol I thought it was only me
1 likeI was asked twice. Frankly, I was somewhat offended by youtube treating me as a little child. But then I learned from the comments that many where asked three times. So no I’m a bit offended that youtube, for some reason, does not think my feelings need to be as protected as some other people’s...
8 likes@Christopher lmaooo i dont think he was saying that just because of the content warning
2 likes@pat the rick yeah bud “True Crime Daily”
2 likesI recommend any Chris Hansen videos. “To catch a predator” or “Hansen vs. Predator”
Haha I’ve never had that happen before so I’m scared!
7 likesHere in Europe you have to verify your age or use a VPN.
2 likesAsked me twice, and I pay for yt premium!
1 likeme now scared to watch it 😥
4 likesI’d never even seen one of those before, let alone two.
0 likes"banger" followed by a compilation of bombs dropping.... 😂
1 likeyuup
0 likesAfter it asked me I had to sell my soul for it. Hopefully it was worth it. “You wanna watch some dank shit?” I hope that’s what that button means lol
3 likesLmfao
1 likeCan someone tell me why? I'm a little bitch ngl and I'm a bit scared to proceed with the video. Does it have gore or disturbing imagery or something?
6 likesI got it three times 😂
0 likes@Hand Soap eh no. If you were to ever go for a CCW you might see the full clip of the incident there, but he cuts out the most sensitive part
0 likesfacts
0 likes@pat the rick ThatChapter is a good one!
2 likes@Rand Althor honestly facts though. And you cannot forget to mention Facebook, Instagram, and pretty much every social media site! Hell you can’t even call someone ugly or an idiot on social media without getting your account suspended or the comment deleted. Like seriously? The funny think is a simple umloot (e.g. ügly or idïot) easily slips through their algorithms. They hinder freedom of speech and the 4th amendment.
0 likes@H S yes agreed! My favorite true crime channel by far. Okay this channel is a close second but still😂
1 like@Rand Althor what? they just want to inform people about the content they're about to watch. its important.
4 likesSo YT asks twice to view this video. I wonder if it has anything to do with the black on black homicide that is highlighted involving the deaths of a black woman & her unborn baby along with a black female police officer by a BLACK male? Makes you wonder? 🤔
0 likesGod damn I thought it was a bug, I've never seen that before
1 likeTrust I thought it was talking about my comments 😂
0 likes@pat the rick ‘that chapter’
0 likesI got it 3 times ahaha
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton now that right there is dedication.
0 likes@pat the rick the fifth estate
0 likes@pat the rick that chapter
0 likesI don’t understand why on this one they needed the double confirmation and all the other ones nothing.
0 likes@pat the rick Stephanie Harlowe is fab. The style of video differs to this, however the content and the detail she goes into is great. Highly recommend
2 likesI thought it had just glitched or something when it popped up again 😂
0 likesHhahahahaha dude I laughed so loud out loud at this comment. Sad video, but your comment is hilarious
0 likes@BravoTaco lol i got 4, youtube vibe checked this vid😂
0 likes3!
0 likesYt- “yo, you sure?”
2 likesMe-“I said yes bro?”
@pat the rick that chapter
0 likesIm glad this comment is here!! Beyond true
1 likeTwice. I got it 4 times
1 likeor not watch. I aint verifying my ago with fucking google.
0 likesYou really know it's good when you get the asked three times
0 likesIt was rough
0 likesLmaaooooo they just had to double check
0 likesYT ain’t fookin around
0 likesThree times actually
0 likesI got 3 lol
0 likesAsked me four time
1 like@pat the rick well there is Lemmino. You can argue it has even better quality than this, but its a bit different
0 likesIt only asked me once, but I said yes twice
0 likesBRO FR IM LIKE OOHH SHIT THIS BOUT TO GET DEEP
0 likesActually hyped me up with each press
0 likes🤣
0 likesDarn well surprised me, first time I’ve been asked that.
0 likesDamn that's serious ahah, I thought it was a bug, still have to watch it
0 likesI got asked FIVE times lmao
1 likeGoogle is acting as a government agency though by providing data on its users to the government.
0 likesIf big tech companies control the means of communication while they are acting as agents of government then by effect they are acting as government. This is what technofascism is all about. Government using corporations to enact policy and vice versa
3 likesThis channel is a hidden gem among the rough
1 like@Jorge yeah he might need to chill, but it's still facts
0 likes@Rand Althor if that was the case then the video would have been removed lmao
1 like@Christopher Read section 230 of the communications decency act. They get tax breaks and immunity from liability ONLY if they act as a neutral platform.
3 likesI was wondering if it was just me.
0 likesThis comment has approved and certified:
BASED AS FUCK
Dude I thought it was a glitch for only me lool
0 likes@The COVID-19 Coronavirus lolwut
1 likeI know, been watching youtube for a good 12-13 years, first time ever fucking seeing that shit.
3 likesi only got asked once
0 likes@a dry cough I got 6 times 😲
0 likesit literally asked me 3 times
0 likesTruuuu
1 likeOng
0 likes@Rand Althor do you think a shop owner has to sell you a bottle of coke if you violate his no shirt no shoes policy? And one more question, do you know what a publisher is or does?
2 likesI've seen this channel like 5 days ago .... he needs to post more videos... after this one I'm done..... and I'm really fucked up now... but I use to too
0 likesFr
0 likesI was asked 7 times
1 likeNot a joke after i clicked i wanted to watch it about the 20th time i just started mashing......so it prob asked me about 50+ times if i wanted to watch it before it let me in
2 likes💀💀💀😂
0 likesI laughed too hard at this comment right after confirming twice 😂
1 likeLol yup
0 likesGot about 7 confirmations to watch
0 likesI just thought that! I’m exiting this chat before any spoilers heehee… love how it all started with what faking crazy looks like and led to binging the rest of the videos!
0 likes@Rand Althor That statement would make more sense if they wouldn't have given you the choice to watch the video.
3 likes5 times.
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton pls send credit card details for further verification, oh yes, and social security number tyty
0 likesThis explain why this video have fewer views than others youtube is controlling this channel number of views i hope this doesn't affect the quality of newer videos because basiclly youtube right now is tolding the creator what to post and what to not and if the channel uploads something that doesn't fit with youtube point of view the video would not being shown to anybody which is a huge waste of the creator time and effort
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likesI have NEVER been asked that before🤔
1 likeSo very true
0 likes@Rand Althor citing to section 230 when you’re clearly against it?
1 likeJust kept pressing "Confirm" as fast as possible. Thinking to myself "This is gonna be a wild ride."
0 likesYeah thats absolutely true!!! The enemy of your enemies are your....
0 likes@Morgan Kneip Best Nation on Earth. Fact.
1 like@Rand Althor then get off?
2 likesIs it supposed to ask multiple times or is it a glitch? Because it asked me three times which seems excessive.
0 likesNoshit i aint notice
0 likesIt asked me 6 times then asked to see an ID.
0 likesI thought it was just me!
0 likes@protatoplays games yup
0 likesdude i was so confused I was being asked twice, I was like ??? I’m 20, YouTube knows this
0 likes@pat the rick donut and that self defense Chanel they do pretty well breaking down stuff
0 likesHahahah
0 likes@Rand Althor statistics would say otherwise
2 likes@loxxxton poxxxton I used my driver's license lol
1 likeYeah this is the first time I've ever seen that and It was basically reassuring me that the video is just built different. I just said, "I've literally never been so sure with any of the tens of thousands of videos that I've watched."
0 likesYouTube is a judge and executioner
1 likeI don’t see how this one is worst than the others. It is sad and maybe sad on another level? But why is this one more restricted than ones with sexual assault?
0 likesI've never had YT ask me if I'm sure before, let alone twice. Makes me wonder what I'm about to see.
0 likesAsked me thrice lol
0 likesDamn it asked me 4 times😂
0 likesARE YOU SURE?
0 likesLmao!
0 likes@pat the rick you ever watch monsters?
0 likesAwesome channel
1 like@pat the rick The Casual Criminalist is pretty good. It discusses older cases, newer cases, and is really well researched.
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton lmao
0 likesTrue tho
0 likes@David B. Nope. Most of the time I'm on Bitchute and odysee. I do still log into youtube while I'm taking a shit, just to comment like I did. It's not hard.
0 likesI think I won with 4 warnings ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️
0 likesY’all noticed that too 💀💀💀
0 likesYeah I didn’t get that.
0 likesI was asked three times
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 It is a little bit of a glitch sometimes yes.
0 likes@Rand Althor fuckin preach those facts
1 likeyesssss i was gonna say the same thing
1 likeSame here
0 likesFr
0 likes@General Tso I thought it was a glitch too!!! Then when it finally began playing, it wasn't showing any of my other recommended videos or anything. I thought this video broke my phone 😂 JCS out here giving us the severe content we didn't know we needed!
1 likeShowing American military slaughter civilians by the millions may be offensive to people who hate FREEDOM, but it's actually based.
0 likes...ain't that the truth ;)
0 likesMine kinda sounds fake but I had 6 warnings.
0 likesI had it 3 times
0 likesI got 3 times lol!!!
0 likesGot asked three times
0 likes@pat the rick I've been watching MrBallen.
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton LMFAO WHAT
0 likeslol
0 likesWe are humans fuck the training and due processes law, that's why we have jurors who are humans too. That's true human law.
0 likesI'm getting ready to be SOOO offended!
0 likesthrice for me
0 likesFr🤣
0 likes@Rand Althor YouTube gave you the freedom to watch millions and millions of videos for free. I can tell you’re a libertarian because your rage is misplaced and your arguments are infantile.
1 likeI was like bro this about to be crazy 💀
0 likes@Rand Althor great username btw. WOT is a great series.
1 like@The Bass Asha'man Thx Eli! I picked the name because it's so awesome to find other people that recognize it and love the series as much as I do !!! have a good one man.
0 likesI don't know about a banger, that's a little insensitive to what happened, but I definitely haven't seen them ask twice before.
0 likesLol. Right.
0 likesIt asked me 7 fucking times
0 likesNah
0 likesNo bap
0 likesliterally changed my age so that i can watch bc i still have 3 more months until i reach 18 lol
0 likes@Rand Althor no they made it because they dont want people to look at graphic content
1 likewhen it asked me twice i was like holy shit is it that bad
0 likeslmaoooo that was my first thought then saw this comment
0 likesI haven't even watched yet but i just cracked out loud with this comment because that is exactly what i just felt
0 likes@Rand Althor You obviously don't know what institutionalized censorship means. Comparing this to dictatorship is really silly.
1 like@Rand Althor what
1 like@pat the rick true crime loser! Our Chad's another channel!
0 likes@skrublordaugust You can't read?
0 likes@Dionyzus lol! Ok.
0 likes@Rand Althor nah, i can read fine. your comments just bizarre.
1 like@skrublordaugust Carry on then.
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton are fud
0 likesLmao same
0 likesYou feel me
0 likesFrfr lol
0 likesWell that just means it has sensitive or disturbing content. It doesn’t mean it will be good, it’s just that the subject matter is a bit tough and not recommended for people who maybe suffer from PTSD or other ailments, or are minors.
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 same even if i did it like 6 times
0 likesI got asked 3 times lmao
0 likesI THOUGHT THIS IS ABIUT ANDY B WHY IS IT SUDDENLY 2 STORIES AND ONE ABOUT SOME GUY KILLING HIS WIFE WTFFFFFFF I DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE I JUST WANTED THE ANDY B PART
0 likes@bubba relax
0 likesWhen I originally watched it when it was posted last year there weren’t those warnings. I wonder if it happened recently due to the sudden influx of many new JCS viewers.
0 likesThey asked me five times
0 likes@Rand Althor prageru fan I’m assuming?
1 like@N8M never been a fan. Have a great day.
0 likesnow i`m scared to watch, are there horrific pictures? so i know, where to skip^^ but man, i start this vid already anyway, this vids are too well made^^
0 likesYeah what was up with that? Had to reload after a blank video screen
0 likes@MC3 News MCOC Concierge how are you not doing to mention “that chapter” Jim and Mike are the only two channels I’ve watched every video multiple times
0 likesHonestly
0 likesYeah…
0 likesRight!!!!
0 likesTo everyone crying in the comment section about the first amendment and free speech:
0 likesFree speech only concerns the government, not private businesses. That’s a good thing. You don’t want the government telling you what to say.
As for private businesses, it is also acceptable if they regulate the type of speech. If you have a shop that has employees screaming the n word every time they see a black person, that will hurt their business. If you’re a capitalist, you shouldn’t mind if someone’s free speech is encroached upon by a private business, because they should have the right to choose who they hire, who shops there, etc… provided it’s not attacks against protected classes.
There. Refute that.
I agree that the 2 YT warnings indicate things are interesting, but the video of this encounter between the officer and vet is chilling.
0 likes@Rand Althor you sir win the 2022 badge of honor for that comment
1 like@Rand Althor having parental advisory checks on adult content is not a violation of freedom lol wut
1 like@Cole444Train Being censored and deplatformed for political views IS a violation of our natural rights. THAT is what youtube has been doing for the last few years.
1 likeI only got one:(
0 likesSo it wasn't just me that had to reload the page in order for me to even click the "I wish to proceed" button?
0 likesFacts
0 likes@pat the rick Coffeehouse Crime is really good
0 likesMine asked me three times! They must think I'm a weenie.
0 likesHad to submit my urine to verify
0 likes2 times here too lol
0 likessadly not a glitch
0 likesRemember the wild west days of YouTube, where people would curse their faces blue and post the nastiest content, and the entire platform was basically that and copyrighted music over webcam footage?
0 likesNow YouTube is like "are you SURE that you want to watch a well produced documentary?"
Because it suits their narrative.
0 likesfacts lmao
0 likesim gonna kum
0 likesfax
0 likesIt’s also why this video has the least amount of views
0 likesI got the shit 4 times
0 likes6
0 likesand a banger it was!
0 likesLMFAAOOO
0 likesDefinitely worth of giving card numbers
0 likesthey asked three times lol
0 likesDunno what language this is but I think its Facts
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton lmao you seriously gave away your info just to watch a video? Yeesh... next time use a vpn
1 like@asdf asdf you live and learn🙄
1 likeJust makes you want to watch it more
0 likesI only got asked once
0 likesYouTube asked me 5 times so I knew it'd be good.
0 likesThat's what threw me off because when you have an account you would think that it would have your first date so that they would know you are above the age of 18 but I'm 39 and it asked me twice
0 likesIt asked me thrice
0 likes@ollehkacb it's like YouTube was asking, "hey so this is pretty gruesome and should probably be viewed by somebody who is of age, are you sure you want to watch this?" then you click yes then it pops up again "are you positive?" and then you click yes and then the third time it would be like "are you absolutely positively sure?" and then you click yes.
1 like😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesAsked me 5 times
0 likes@Abida boo gtfo
0 likesHell yeah
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 same 😂😂
0 likesDoesn’t that mean it’s bad? Like if somebody asks “are you sure you wanna watch it?” I don’t think that means it’s good lol.
2 likes@loxxxton poxxxton 😂
0 likesThey made me luck my eye brows
1 likeFr😂😂
1 likeI was surprised, guess I'm not the only one!
1 likeIt asked me 3 times lol
1 like@augi a 'Big Tech' is comprised of different private companies, who share no collective responsibility. That's not remotely what a monopoly is. You talk about Big Tech like it's a monolith. Which is a misinformed opinion frequently peddled in conspiracy circles and certain ideologically driven media sources. Primarily because those circles are already willfully misinformed, and therefore apply a much lower standard of critical thinking to claims, and have an inherently limited understanding of complex systems.
2 likesYoutube is funny. Childish.
1 likeTruuuuuuu
1 likeAsk 4 time to me
1 likeBaaaaaaaaaaannngerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
1 likeFacts
1 likeWell they asked me 10 or 11 time, I was clicking like crazy on "okay"
1 likeThrice
1 likeLol banger
1 likelol it asked me like 5 times
1 likeIk dats right!!!! Lol
1 like@Rand Althor I don't understand the correlation lol. Giving a warning / asking if you'd like to see something that might offend someone, then being allowed to see it when you confirm that you'd still like to proceed doesn't sound like any tyrant actions on their part / lack of freedom on your part.
2 likesBru, i get warned 4 times! That's a PB for me.
1 like@loxxxton poxxxton Thank you EU... I just used a VPN instead.
1 like@pat the rick That Chapter
1 like@BoggleMeister420 same
1 likeayo you right
1 like@loxxxton poxxxton they ask for a sample of your bloodwork??
1 likeMine ask 4 fucking times
1 likeMine was 4 times!
1 likeHere's me thinking it was a glitch
2 likesAnd also doesn't give you suggestions lmaooo
1 like👌🏾😁
1 like@Rand Althor they’re a company that you don’t need to use. The government, however, will imprison you for not paying for their spending.
1 likeI got asked 5 times
1 likeI didn't get this before. This time I got it 4 times.
1 likeOng 🤣😂
1 likei was asked 3 times
1 likeXD
1 likeHow the fuck was that comment worth 34k likes lmao
0 likesYouTube asked me 10 times I had to click on it 10 times
0 likesRight?
0 likes@slimshead8100 well said if you don't like anything don't watch don't listen.
1 like@protatoplays games how 3 times it always 2 normally?? What's the 3rd confirm about?
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 same here
0 likes@pat the rick "dead bug says" or "LOLFEILDANDLOVE" If you can stomach them. Not for the faint of heart or easily offended AT ALL
0 likes@OLD SKOOL Idk but a lot of us got 3 of them. I usually get 2 only but this video was 3 for me too.
1 like@Zach Ryan That's mad because I've used yt for yrs now and only ever been asked twice, sometimes just once.?
0 likesI got it thrice (3x)
1 likeIt asked me thrice
0 likes@Zach Ryan That's weird, I've never had that, I use my phone to connect to my tv, it asked me 2 time on my phone then asked me to confirm once on the tv. Realistcly that's only 1 time...
0 likesHahahahahhaha
1 like@BoggleMeister420 HE
0 likesBokedmmmp8
Ya happened to me twice
2 likesThree
2 likes😭😭Fr yo, s**t...I thought that was my phone or the app glitching😭💀💀
2 likes@Rand Althor it’s not a rights violation if going on the website is voluntary. you obviously have the right to speak in any way that you want, but their right to regulate what happens in their OWN website triumphs your right to speak freely, because you voluntarily went into the website. it would be different if youtube regulated your speech at your own home, but this speech is on their website
1 likeI got asked thriceಠ﹏ಠ
0 likesI was thinking the same. I mean, this isn’t a cuddly fun channel at the best of times and it asked twice!
0 likes@Rand Althor i’m not a neoliberal lmao. i’m a free market capitalist.
1 like@Rand Althor you should’ve figured this out by me using voluntarism as an argument lmao. neolibs are opposed to voluntary interactions and transactions.
1 likeI got it thrice
1 likeFacts
0 likesI was asked 3 times.
0 likesAsked me 6x
0 likes3 times here.
0 likesAsked me 4 times.
0 likes@General Tso let’s pray to our Middle Eastern deity................
0 likesJesus Christ
It asked me three times...
0 likesRIFHT LMAO
0 likes100%
0 likesYup
0 likes@Rand Althor you must be American talking bout that good ol freedom, pity you dont let other countries have it
1 like@Kieran Casey nobody is ever "let" to have freedom. One must take it, like we did from the brits. And then one must safeguard it, as we have certainly NOT.
0 likesI got asked three times
0 likes4times
0 likesIt asled like 5 times, dense, it's manual choosen
0 likesfirst thought lol
0 likesbb-b-b-b-b-bb-b-b-b-bbanger............
0 likesdoesnt load must be an ultra banger cause it wants me to check my wifi before i watch it........
0 likesThought it was a bug lmaoo
0 likesLmaoooo “are you absolutely sure you wanna see this shit?!” - YouTube
0 likesBro it asked me thrice this is crazy
0 likesI thought I was tripping 😂
0 likesthat’s exactly what i thought
0 likesLol thought it was a glitch on my end
0 likesI thought my 3 times was my internet connection lmaoo
0 likesTwice tho😭😭😭😭😭
0 likes@Rand Althor please learn the difference between a private company and the government. Your ignorance irks me.
1 likeYeah because it’s the biggest and best streaming website out, we have no choice but to use it or use shitty services
0 likesOk but they still gave themselves an award passed on the law and principles of freedom of speech, you’re a sheep lol
0 likesBruh lol.
0 likes@pat the rick I really like that chapter
0 likes@Christopher Nope, this is not the only case of YouTube's restricting policies.
0 likes3 times
0 likesHaha for sure
0 likesI got asked 4 times so yeah
0 likesThrice
0 likes@Potto same lol
0 likesI was asked literally like 10-15 times!
0 likes4 times 💀
0 likesWAS GONNA SAY THE SAME SHIT YO
0 likesAnd you cannot even share link to it on mobile.
0 likesthree times and still it doesn't work on my tv
0 likes4 times
0 likesIt only asked you twice? Asked me about 6 times lok
0 likesThree times actually
0 likes@CITVERSE because not enough people support the alts
0 likesI got asked 4 times
0 likesHaha 👌
0 likesI’ve never seen that.
0 likesIt asked me 3 times
0 likesThe double warning never disappoints
0 likesIt asked me 6 times, Jesus. Usually, it asks me to confirm a maximum of 3 times.
0 likesThey ask me trice!!
0 likes@augi a no
0 likes2:47 in, can’t wait to see where this is headed.
0 likesYessir
0 likesI had no clue that was a thing, I got a lil scared and a lil psyched.
0 likes@Rand Althor cry about it
1 like😂😂
0 likesI know right?
0 likes@Christopher kinda true tho this is history plain and simple and a lesson of how vets are treated after times of war and the help that could prevent things like this, how are we to learn from mistakes when they are censored and hidden from us
0 likes@Rand Althor we don’t have inherent rights to freedom of speech as humans. And private companies can do pretty much whatever the fuck they want on their own platform, whether it’s ethical or not doesn’t matter
1 like@Red Ranger Wrong. The US is built upon the doctrine of Natural Rights. Read up on John Locke.
0 likes"Natural rights are those that are not dependent on the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and are therefore universal and inalienable (i.e., rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws)."
Don't be a slave. Neither "private company" nor state actor can infringe on inalienable rights. Read the declaration of independence with the understanding that rights enumerated within are NOT GRANTED by man and can't be taken away either.
It told me to do it 6 times lmao
0 likesYeh youtube cencorship is going crazy
0 likesAsked me 3 times
0 likesThrice for me
0 likes5 times in UK
0 likes@pat the rick https://www.youtube.com/c/ThatChapter
0 likesBahahahahaha seriously 😂😂😂
0 likesGot that too
0 likesSo true
0 likesI know eh? 😆😆😆😆 from 🇨🇦
0 likes@Playboy Shaggy same here 😆😆😆 that’s when you know it’s worth it. 😆👊
0 likes@Josh Woods here too 😆
0 likes@Emmerson Menjivar 😆😆😆😆
0 likesI kno right
0 likesThey askey me three times xD
0 likesI got a message 3 times I think. Idk if it was an error
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 nope
0 likes@Rand Althor which means Fascism is kinda Communism is it not
1 like@Israel Groysman yep. "horseshoe theory". Ruling-Class wins either way.
0 likeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
Hahahahhah
0 likes@Rand Althor yeah although i don't believe in "classes", i don't believe you can name any of them nowadays
1 likeHAHAHAHA i knew this would be the first comment
1 likeJoke's on you, I wad asked 4 times
0 likesIt never ceases to amaze me how cops get so emotional over another cops death but couldn't care less when a cop murder us.
0 likesThey beat and assault this guy for killing a cop but they don't beat up and assault other cops for murdering any of us.
YouTube always asks twice... it's annoying. Regardless it's not like they show any real violence on YouTube anyways... the warning is pointless.
0 likesLmao 🤣
0 likesThey asked me 4 times holy shit
0 likes@loxxxton poxxxton best Comment right here
0 likesit's a glitch, it happens every single time
0 likes@BoggleMeister420 same lol
0 likesI was thinking the same thing.
0 likesGot your cheap likes by commenting this?
0 likes4 times you must mean
0 likesDude I got asked three times 😳
0 likes@Rand Althor what’s funny, is all your arguments have been played in court, and they’ve been laughed out of court. You are simply wrong and Burthurt.
0 likes@Mostlyharmless1985 suuuure. lol. Citations needed.
0 likesI had to give a retina scan for approval!!!
0 likes@TG Andrew is dead. The black guy didn't get a death sentence.
0 likesI got asked five damn times
0 likes6 times for me
0 likesYey
0 likesIt asked me to confirm four times
0 likesThe government did fail Andy. They asked him to fight which he did with honor, then when his usefulness was over, they dumped him.
1098 likesBut as sad as Andy's story is, That poor officer was 22 freaking years old. He was still a baby! He had barely lived yet and he suffered a horrible death. The fear of his final moments will never leave my mind.
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I absolutely agree; the government can't teach our citizens to kill other country's 22 year old babies and then discard them when they come home non-functional. The Officer is my son's age, he didn't do anything to deserve to die, as a Mother I wish someone got on that radio and told him to leave and they'll all catch the guy when back up arrives, there's no shame in backing down and saving your life.
64 likesThe death of the officer was tragic yes, but so was the series of events that lead to it. If I recall correctly, conscription was used for the vietnam war, forcing millions of young men onto battlefields where I can guarantee many didn't necessarily want to. There's a good chance Andy and his brothers were forced into hell by the government's mistake that was the vietnam war. Ultimately, I blame the American government for their stupidity in handling the vietnam war, and even the sexism that lies within the current American conscription system (though I hear they may be passing a bill on that to make it more equal) in forcing so many young men, many of whom probably didn't want to go to war into terrible circumstances of their own stupid design, and then leaving them in the dust after they used them. If the government wasn't so dumb with all this war stuff, so many lives could've been saved, on and off the battlefield. I am willing to bet that the tragic killing of that officer wouldn't have occurred if the government hadn't royally screwed the soldiers they forced to fight years prior.
12 likesI think Andy still holds some responsibility for his actions, but it is certainly diminished.
He sounded terrified smh
8 likesUnfortunately Andy was probably forced to commit acts just as bad during the war. It makes sense why he felt he could kill the guy, yet not be the typical heartless criminal mind. He simply was used to it whether he liked it or not.
13 likes@Ash N He was obviously delusional. He seemed wacky but when he saw the officer make his call he absolutely flipped out and screamed who are you calling. Right afterwards he really started in on the Go ahead and kill me stuff.
9 likesIt was very interesting to see how he really did leave his head wide open to be shot for sometime. However. After a few seconds , just like the narrator said, a switch flipped and he went into kill mode.
The officer never had a chance. Between his rifle and experience, that poor kid barely a year on the force was done for.
The worse part is I think he was running back to his car when the cop shot at him again. Thats when he turned and fired away. This time finishing him with a head shot.
I've seen the unedited video and thankfully , this version omits the cops horrible high pitched screams each time hes shot. Its something you don't forget.
22 years old is no baby. 22 is a grown ass man who has accepted responsibility. Hard truth, but that is what it is.
10 likes“Animal farm”
1 like"That poor officer was 22 freaking years old. He was still a baby! He had barely lived yet and he suffered a horrible death."
7 likesCoincidentally, the average age of those who served in Vietnam was twenty-two. Brannan was twenty-one. Nearly sixty thousand 'babies' needlessly died. Peculiar, isn't it? I suppose it must be true-- that a single death is a tragedy; thousands are a statistic.
The government didn't "fail Andy". He was awarded a 100% disability rating which is over 3 grand per month, and as a disabled veteran myself I can tell you the VA has a mental health department at every hospital (and some outpatient clinics), and telemedicine allows a veteran to be seen at home, or any place with a wifi signal, by a mental health doctor through a webcam. Vets also have access to pretty much every medication available to Americans, including meds for psych issues. Yes the US could always do more to help vets, particularly combat vets, but responsibility still lies with the veteran to seek help if they need it. I'm saying this as someone who receives medical assistance from the VA, and I can't expect them to hunt me down for it. It's on me to take the initiative.
4 likesThe final moments of the officer yelling "Put the gun down!" resonated with true fear.. I'm here for the psychological aspect, rewatching and damn some stuff you only get by rewatching.
1 likewhat's more, you can tell he was one of the "good" apples. dutiful, respectful, and not just a trigger happy moron on a power trip. he clearly wanted to resolve the situation without bloodshed. it's just a major tragedy for everyone involved.
3 likes@CharliiDuckets He did. It made my heart hurt to hear.
0 likes@freelanceryuu COOL THANKS BRO
2 likesNobody thought he was literally a baby. It's a figure of speech.
@porfirij The issue with police isn't about "bad apples" or "good apples" the issue is police being allowed to do horrible things and get off with a paid suspension, and on the rare occasions where they are removed from the force and we are told they can never be cops again, police unions just have those records expunged when it's time to renegotiate contracts.
1 likeWhen people try to force some kind of change after yet another example of police brutality or murder, they may charge the individual cops in that specific case so people that don't see the big picture will think progress has been made.
If anyone actually cares about the lives of individual officers, they should be supporting the protestors. They usually just care about the ideaology behind it, usually from a lifetime of brainwashing.
@Ash N They teach soldiers to be unreasonable and to kill...then come back from Hell and not kill, and be reasonable.
2 likesOfficer Piggy fired first, no?
0 likesI re-watched this again and thought.. isn't it ironic how Andy was also 22 when he's in Vietnam and basically ended his normal life onwards :(
0 likes@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie even though the series became a joke, first blood did do a good job of expressing rage at this complete injustice.
0 likesI hope JCS gets a quality embedded sponsor. That way he can make more mature content like this and still get paid.
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Was this video demonetized?
0 likes@Dissecting Darkness seeing how it's age restricted (it asked me to verify 5 times) it's definitely demonetized
4 likes@Dissecting Darkness jcs has been having a lot of issues with YouTube removing and blocking his content
0 likesMy grandpa still cries when he talks about Vietnam and he’s one of the toughest dudes I’ve ever met. Always makes me sad. His best friend never made it out
71 likesAll around, this was an absolute tragedy. The only “bad guy” here (in the Andrew B. case, that is) was the impact of what transpired in Vietnam and how it affected a veteran who didn’t receive the true mental health care needed. Whether it be through the fact mental health was poorly understood back then, or through the fact that honestly? I don’t think there IS a truly effective coping mechanism after experiencing and witnessing such devastation. It’s one thing to see someone die, it’s one thing to murder another. But to live a life we consider “normal” to adulthood, and then suddenly one day you’re trained and expected to compartmentalize your entire understanding of human life as you know it. To be able to see the people before you as targets to be neutralized, yet understanding they are truly an enemy ready to do the same to you, go into an active war zone where you’re constantly waiting and preparing for the next attack, watch those of your surrounding team you build bonds with be killed right before your eyes in horrific ways, and then just… return home carrying the weight of all of that. I mean, fuck dude. Truly try and put yourself in their shoes for just a moment. They’re grieving those they lost, dealing with survivors guilt, all the while they’re fighting with themselves with the fact they killed others in those same ways. Who had families and friends, who are grieving the same way, who were fighting for what they believed was right (whether it be a belief that is corrupt, or not). The only justification given being it was what they had to do… Having to constantly compartmentalize those people as targets for the rest of their lives to cope. Could you imagine how that affects their understanding of everyone around them? Then the constant affect of what it does to your body and how it functions to constantly be ready for an attack, yet knowing you’re out of that place and it’s safe… But even still THEN having the news constantly broadcast the tragedies surrounding us in our own backyards to validate that constant state of fight or flight. And all of this just being the tip of a horrific iceberg of trauma being dealt with every single day and then being expected to come home and enjoy morning pancakes and coffee, or family and friends get togethers, or the grind of a daily, stress filled job…
72 likesOur nation really doesn’t give our veterans the treatment they deserve… But yet, how are we supposed to? Those of us that haven’t been in that situation or deal with that exact trauma couldn’t possibly begin to ever fully understand that trauma endured and being endured each day
I truly wish we’d form better mental health care for PTSD (and in absolute general, a better mental health care system for all). And I truly hope that the groups formed by other veterans and soldiers who come together and reach out to extend that feeling of understanding to other veterans and soldiers, letting them know they are not alone in the fight for their well-being, and that they are understood, recognized, and validated… I just truly hope one day soon these groups are given the absolute respect, honor, and publicity they deserve.
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I never experienced war.
0 likesYet, when I visited the massgraveyards from ww2 allied soldiers from the beach-landing, saw that they died on landing day, as very young lads... I couldnt help but shed tears. Those poor souls. This goes to all soldiers anyways.
In most cases its a 'we stand as enemies, we fall as brothers' thing imho. fucking shame
You can't drop someone in the middle of hell and expect them to come back a sane, well-functioning member of society.
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GXF Andre
237 likesDropping a man into the Hell scape of a drawn out war & expecting him to be unchanged by that experience. That’s insanity.
GXF Andre FACTS
17 likesThere's an interesting psychological take on this assumption by an Aussie special forces operator/doctor Dan Pronk. He terms it 'post traumatic growth'. Perhaps easier said than done but everything is it not within the consciousness? The interview with Dan is on YT.
22 likes@Bobby Briggs You should listen to, "I Was Only 19", it's an Aussie song about war and the effects it had on him his entire life.
37 likesBut the discounts!
26 likesWell here in Africa I've met people who are fairly adjusted members of society after Civil wars. Very few ive seen that are messed up. Although they ALL don't like talking about it so we generally avoid that conversation.
23 likesThe fact is most soldiers who've experienced combat DO come back as sane, well-functioning members of society. Those who don't tend to have been poorly adjusted before they experienced combat. Having PTSD is not a get out of jail free card for murder. The M'Naghten rules specify that the person must not have been aware that what he was doing was wrong in order to be found not guilty by reason of insanity.
49 likesWe should hire them as police
0 likes@emily knight I know your joke was in bad taste but I bloody needed it right now. 🙂
7 likesMy mum died, daughter and best friend Jack my dog along with my grandparents within a year. My doctor said it maybe ptsd. That was my hell. Just saying. I am broken.
6 likes@JDave Foster you're stupid.
4 likesFact
0 likesIt wasn't hell until they were dropped there.
9 likes100%
0 likesGXF Andre - we do it with black Americans. Unsurprisingly, black folk living in the inner city have significantly higher rates of ptsd than other populations due to the traumas the black community is exposed to, and with much fewer institutional resources to cope.
15 likesOne must become a demon to survive hell. And then be punished for it when he returns to Earth.
6 likesI served in the marines from 03-07 3 tours, two to Iraq and the last one in Afghan. The only thing I've developed was Survivors guilt and Knee issues. I wasn't diagnosed with anything else. Everyone experiences trauma differently.
15 likes@James Steven Dude, politics has nothing to do with it. My Best fucking friend is a liberal and lost his leg for this country.
52 likesWere all in Hell for what The United States has done.
5 likesMaybe not but I think expecting them to not murder anyone is not asking for much
3 likesSome how my Dad came home from WWII without being all messed up. I've known hundreds of Vietnam war veterans that came home & didn't lose their shit during my 20 yr US Army career. War is hell; but, not everyone loses their mind and most become well-functioning members of society just fine.
2 likesSociety and medical system failed these people.
2 likesOf course. It's justified that someone would be arrested for these actions regardless of how mentally unwell and out of control they are, they still did what they did, but they need to be given a lot of help whilst serving a sentence, so they become less dangerous to themselves and to others. They need that help to be maintained if they get back out too. Very sad. War shouldn't exist.
2 likes@Bobby Briggs You're emotions can easily be controlled. Bottom line is results, even if it means going to the "gray zone"
0 likesMr. SkyJack I appreciate your point of view and experience. I also greatly appreciate your acknowledgment of the fact that everyone processes trauma differently.
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Mr. SkyJack thank you for your service.
1 likeMy pop came back from Nam and functioned just fine. His highschool friend was a Marine at Khe Sahn who witnessed his entire unit die. Other than being a very quiet man with an odd sense of humor, he made a very good life for himself. My first girlfriends dad was a riverboat crewman, was the sole survivor of a VC ambush and had to survive for two weeks or longer in the jungle, evading capture and lives a decent life. As the saying goes, individual results may vary.
3 likeswho created that hell?
0 likes@Kat Yamato humans did. I challenge you to be more specific than that.
2 likesMr. SkyJack I thought your knee issues were from jumping out of a plane in a rain storm with a bag of money? 🙃
0 likesThis is why we rotate soldiers now.
0 likesNobody spends so much time in war that it becomes their reality.
Otherwise they may not ever leave.
My dad (a Vietnam veteran) has said this to me every single time he has opened up about vietnam in my adult life.
0 likes@JDave Foster not everyone has seen the same things and not everyone will have same consequences just because they were in a war.
2 likesdid you see the same video as us? did that man look sane to you?
did you think he had any control of what he was doing?
@EmperorJuliusCaesar That wasn't the point. A society that refuses to believe in healing for individuals who have experienced trauma is not any wiser than a society that doesn't believe in mental pain
3 likesIt rewires your entire nervous system and only gets worse if left untreated properly. It’s not a get out of jail free card but people have to understand sometimes people cannot help it when a flashback is severe.
0 likesI understand that. It then don’t hand them a gun and a vehicle after that either, like are these people insane? What did they think would happen?
0 likesNot an average person, no. Something like 1% of the population is stoic enough to fight on the frontline without going cuckoo. Which is plenty of people to make an army out of, but who's gonna bother with the rigorous psychological screening?
0 likes@Jokse J sure. Tell that to the people that were there before America got there. We probably made it worse, but it was a hellhole of death long before our troops set foot there.
0 likesWhat you CAN’T do is keep creating this hell for hundreds of millions of people around the world by invading their countries!
1 likeEvery US government since the end of WW2 is a war criminal!
@splifstar85 except that they aren’t. Other than that you’re correct.
0 likesHe danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged
1 like@Raphaella Victoria you seem to lack understanding of what PTSD is.. as well as confusing it with “flashbacks” 🤦♂️
7 likesAnd then give them no help once they're home. They suffer and give away their freedom just to be ignored once they're no longer useful
2 likes@robby lebotha which country in Africa specifically please ???
1 likeHow do you know they are fairly adjusted and are okay ??
@B 'Tayler' Packard that is true and that’s what makes me sad regardless of the politics..
0 likesI actually feel sorry for that guy
They resocialize you into being ready to kill. But don't resocialize you back into a civilian when you return
2 likes@parametalhead so invading other sovereign nation states (over a dozen since WW2) and killing millions of civilians for no other reason than political gain (NONE of these invaded nations posed ANY direct danger to US citizens) - is not a war crime???🤦♂️
3 likes@splifstar85 nope
0 likes@parametalhead ok, so Hitler, according to you, wasn’t a war criminal, as he simply did what he had to (in accordance with, to some extent manufactured by propaganda, feelings/emotions of his nation) for political gain..
2 likesI doubt many would agree, but that’s your rightful (miseducated and propaganda induced) outlook on the world..
Hope you realize, that judging by your comments and replies, you would’ve been one of the people who supported the Nazis in th 1930s Germany 🤷♂️
While I agree with you to a degree, most Vietnam vets, amazingly, came back and returned into society, becoming law-abiding, contributing citizens. I know many of them personally. Of course, the war scarred them forever. But they got back to living as normal a life as they could. A certain number of them simply couldn't adjust.
0 likes@robby lebotha 11 months old yet I find the observation interesting,
0 likes" Well here in Africa I've met people who are fairly adjusted members of society after Civil wars. Very few ive seen that are messed up. Although they ALL don't like talking about it so we generally avoid that conversation. "
I believe this is different; Civil wars affect the entirety of the population. All and everyone can relate to the trauma and experience, everyone has to work on improving on what has happened.
With the Vietnam war it must be different: a war half the globe away, not on home soil; you and select few of the population are drafted to fight in the war. When you return home, the overwhelming majority still lead cushy lives incomparison to the hell on earth that the soldiers experienced. Meanwhile, the cushy people only experienced parts of it (likely censored) on TV, narrated over with propaganda mixed in of victory.
Then they are sent home after the tragedy, and are treated no better for the service they did to the country - expected to go back to normal and act like nothing ever happened - despite the fact they witnessed their platoon leaders blow up into body fragments; losing families to suicide due to trauma, etc.
Additionally, they can't talk to anyone about it - they're incredibly isolated from the experience - their family cannot relate unlike a civil war where every member of the population is brought into the conflict.
@Kat Yamato the government...
0 likes@Loulou Laalee you realize that was propaganda, right? like that wasn’t actually a thing lmao
1 like@Annie Frank yes give people with actual combat experience and send them in a stress zone with a weapon that they can really use and expect them to do the right thing
0 likesHonesty i feel like not all men are made for war, not everyone has a strong mind some come back okay some come back broken, this is why the draft hurt so many because it was forced servitude in war, it wasn’t people who wanted to go to war they were just obligated to
0 likes@IIIIII very true, but I don’t think you have to be “strong” to be okay after experiencing war, as that implies those who can’t are somehow weak. I’d say it’s pretty normal to be broken after experiencing horrific violence firsthand.
2 likesstories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme aot of it.
1 like@James Steven what on earth does that have to do with anything? Sounds like you’re the one complaining
2 likesYet the hell was created by themselves
0 likesit wasn’t hell until we made it hell. we brought hell to them. we are the devils.
2 likesMy dad was in Vietnam war. He is insane. PTSD like crazy. War dreams. Alcoholic.
1 likeFacts
0 likes@JDave Foster well adjusted people don't join the military.
0 likes@splifstar85 strawman plus ad hominem, i would probably agree with you but please discuss your views in a more respectable manner
1 like@James Steven go for it overseas then tough guy
0 likes@sian beecham God bless you
0 likesi feel like they made a movie about that
0 likesThere aren’t any innocent people in hell.
0 likesThere are many innocent people in war.
As soon as I saw the photo of Andy with his parents I said out loud, “Ahhhhhhhh…I know what case this is!”
142 likesThis one definitely hits close to home, because as a person who has seen close combat in Afghanistan. I know what happens after having spent your formative years fighting in war.
We definitely do not receive the care and rehabilitation we need. It’s simply, “Thank you for your service, and good luck in your life.”
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Truly, thank you for your service - and I hope you have the insurance needed to get counseling if you need it. You deserve to be helped.
8 likesAnd a little bit of money. Can’t forget the carrot!
1 likeWow. This one hits hard in the feels. My father and sister are vets (Vietnam and Iraq). The way the US treats it's vets (especially Vietnam) is appalling. Every single aspect of this video was so gut punch sad, no tragic. JCS did an amazing job putting this out there and keeping humanity intact while dropping hard facts.
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My papaw was a vietnam vet too. He would tell me all kinds of military stories growing up. I miss him
0 likes@Celeste Did he tell you about all the innocent people he killed? How cute.
2 likesHonestly, it's not the USA only, that is not treating it's vets like that... it's everywhere, it always has been, if you pay closer attention to people's stories from all over the world.
0 likesThis seems to be human nature, people easily forget, they do not appreciate what people in the past have done for them, and that is just the way it is... sadly.
This is probably the saddest case I’ve seen in this channel. :( Others were just straight up animalistic, showed lack of remorse, and deserving of sentence.
74 likesHere, none of them deserved what happened, not the police officer nor the war veteran. It’s disheartening how after the service the war veteran has rendered, he remained uncared for by the State.
And that poor dog, I can imagine how he loved his owner so much. 🥺
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@some channel Said from a teenager who has no idea how the world works lol
0 likesMarkeith deserves the death sentence infinitely more than the veteran who was suffering from PTSD
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But to think about it. His suffering was done tho. Its probably what he want yet not ready to just do a suicide.
8 likesHonestly it infuriates me that he got the death penalty, yet some of the other utter monsters showcased on this channel got off with less.
26 likes@77777Carlo other guy killed a cop too…
18 likes@James R. Davis He woulda gotten the death penalty if the other cops hadn't abused him so much. Either way his life is over, I only hope his time in prison is perpetually miserable.
4 likes@DeludoSui But both of the victims died to members of the same "race." You can't just apply racial motivation towards the victim side, and then not apply it towards the assailant.
2 likes@77777Carlo no it’s not lol
0 likesAs I just explained to my cat, the production quality on these are so amazingthat this is why we do not see one once a week. This shit takes work. Worth the wait.
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Ooof
26 likes"As I just explained to my cat..." Is now my favorite statement ever ❤️
651 likes🙌😝
16 likesMeow
52 likesWhat did the cat think?
145 likesI bet the cat didn’t say NOTHING. the cat is probably immune to the “ paws” technique that we have heard about in so many of these EXCELLENT videos JCS makes for us.
100 likesLady Maiden did your cat make a remark to share to add to this interesting discussion? 😜🤪😂🤓
24 likesFor being on 3 years I was hoping for more back videos to watch. Less than 20.
19 likesI wish I had a cat. I said the same thing to...no one.
45 likesFavorite comment ever! Lol 😂
18 likesYour cat sounds very sophisticated; what was his/her take on it?
34 likes@Vikki Gardner Yeah I really wish he put out more vids more frequently.
8 likesLady Maiden your cats response?
5 likesThank you for understanding. Some people just don’t understand.
3 likesMs. Buschhorn lmfao
1 likeAnd his patreon is full of videos! Literally dozens of hours of entertainment of exclusive content
8 likesLove this comment 🖤
4 likesGive your cat a hug for me. All kittens deserve some love.
11 likesLady Maiden tell your cat I said hi and I love him. 💕
7 likesI just adore this comment so much 🥰💚🙏 Tell your kitty I said hi from New York and that I hope you and him/her are doing well ! Stay safe 😇😍
11 likesAbsolutely.
2 likesWell put kitty
2 likes@hatsune miku
0 likesThat's what he said.
Wow. I love everyone in this comment section.🤘😂
16 likesI have conferred all your greetings and salutations to the cat in question, he sends his love and many happy returns on the day.
Stay awesome guys. 💙
You just summed up for me .. I'll wait x
1 likeI told my dog and he said "Fuck that I thought you were taking me for a walk"
9 likesMy favourite comment ever :)
1 likeAs you explained to your psychopathic killing machine. I'm sure she purred :D
4 likesI talk to my bunny all the time.
4 likesSo did your cat agree?
3 likesLmao
2 likes@FifinatorKlon oh honey don't worry about me I'm not sad.
7 likesI'm doing quite well and so is my cat.
Trust me not everybody is cut out to raise children, some of us just make excellent aunties and babysitters for our friends who need a night off here and there.🤘
@John Smith well thank you and my cat says hi back, to both of you.
1 like@Random PC-User cats are psychotic killing machines.
1 likeAnd yes, he purred. 😂
@Black Kittens thank you dear.
0 likes@Not So Usual I'm going to have to look that up 🤘
0 likes@Rachel Kania ♥️
0 likes@Phatty we don't always agree on everything, but he did agree with me on this.
2 likes@Paul Anthony I respect a dog who knows their own mind.
3 likesHow was your walk?
@FifinatorKlon also....from this may I assume you have children, and are very fulfilled as a parent?
3 likesIf so, that's awesome.
For all of you.
I often feel like maybe not everyone should have children unless they're really psyched about it.
That shits hard work.
Someone's got to propagate the species, thank you for your service. 💜
@Ruth Johnson
2 likesBut you're not really alone, Ruth.
My understanding is we are surrounded by dead people who love us or are at least indifferent.
and there's that whole thing about guardian angels and stuff.
So you can always say it to the ghosts. I do and that's when my cat usually looks warily at me.
That's usually when I like to point out it's impolite to eavesdrop.
How did your cat respond?
1 likeLol. True.
1 likeCat dont care
0 likesTotally but I really wish he'd hurry up lol I love them
0 likesThis is my favourite YT comment ever!
1 likeHonestly there are so many passion project channels on YouTube that I haven't consumed regular tv media in years. Other than a couple must see movies or shows I could care less. Independent free expression always beats a controlled idea.
2 likesLady Maiden You are awesome! Hope you and your fur-baby are having a lovely day/night 🥰
3 likes@Boo Hastings
1 likeAwwwwwee!
Thank you, dear. And you are a sweetheart. A fine evening to you and your loved ones! ♥️🙏
Lady Maiden You, too! Stay safe! Hugs 🤗 🙏
1 likeWhat did the cat think about that?
0 likesVinny Mac Yep!! I love JCS and That Chapter equally, as well, but Mike does put out a lot more content here on YouTube.
0 likes@Plot Twist yes he is single and he is a very good boy
1 likeHe's not overweight but he's on the taller side
My friends tell me he's very handsome which I agree but of course I'm biased
He is very affectionate.
Full of kisses!
@Plot Twist
2 likesOn the subject of that guy accusing me being childless, he's totally right!
My choice LOL
I respect people who choose to have children but I am not among them
Nothing wrong with choosing not to have children and yeah you're right he's probably an incel based on his vehement reaction to my casual childless state.
Me thinks he dost protest too loudly 🤣
@Plot Twist
2 likesAaaawwwww
My sweet boy was overweight until recently so he's not judging, and it's all different with cats anyways.
Let's go all old English on this and I will inform my cat that he is betrothed to your cat.
May our kingdoms unite through this marriage of our Cats.
🏆🙏🥂⚜️👑
Edit.. his name is MEEP
But technically that's Sir Meep
@Plot Twist hey Man kids are all good and stuff if you're totally into it.
1 likeAnd if so, what could be better than a plot twist lol?!
The beauty of all this is that we have these choices!!
Hug
Tell your cat I said what up.
0 likesI am to assume that cat is now a fellow subscriber of Jim right?
0 likesRuth Johnson as someone who has a cat.. and said cat doesn’t give a damn about ANYTHING... get a dog. Dog/(s) are waaaay more interested in the quality of videos on this channel. Many head tilts (from my German shepherd) and several howls from my chow/husky. They 10/10 would recommend. 🐾 🐕
0 likesListen this guy really needs his own network show or HBO. He’s compelling and can tell a story.
0 likeserhm... MEOW?
1 likeThe cat definitely got the message better than many subscribers. But that doesn’t justify the fact that you share thoughts about psychology and criminology with your cat
0 likesCat slowly nods without a pause in reading all the comments
0 likes@FifinatorKlon what an awful thing to say
0 likestrue facts
0 likesMy cat totally agrees with you.
1 likeLolol
0 likesLol
0 likes😂 thanks for the reprise from the heavy content. I'll have to let my cat know when I see her later.
1 likeLol I love that you started we as I just explained to my cat lol
0 likes@Ruth Johnson 0
0 likes@Ruth Johnson 0
0 likesDid they listen?
1 likeI'm sure if he would start a Patreon we'd send him enough cash to put a team together to work on increasing the volume without sacrificing quality. Oftentimes, quality even goes up! LET US SHOWER YOU WITH CASH MISTER JCS GUY.
0 likesDoes anyone know channels as good as this? In the informational/educational category. Other examples would be Vsauce, Knowing Better, Lemmino etc
0 likes@sarita joshi I second this. We need more channels like this one that break apart psychoanalysis of subjects in this manner. It's entertaining and very informative.
0 likesdamn right
0 likesYour cat would be wise to listen.
0 likesYes! 🙌🏾
0 likesYes yes i just explained the same thing to my fish 😌
0 likes@Lady Maiden I'm willing to bet your cat's response was more valuable than some of these.
0 likes😆
0 likes"As I just explained to my cat" I'm stealing this
0 likesSmh... cat people are weird af
0 likes@Brittany Batt literally 😂😂
0 likes@Eric Dickey
0 likesNo, humans in general are weird af.
That includes me, that includes you.
Trust.
@The Computer Man he had a patreon and took it down he was only asking $1 for subscription
0 likes@Random PC-User cats arent just psychopaths they are really nice and adorable and i can tell from this comment that you have never had a meaningful bond with a cat
0 likesLolol as I just explained to my cat is the best way to open any comment
0 likes@Steve Victory meow
0 likesI'm a year late for this comment, but I love it.
1 like@Nicole Necsefor dang you're right that was a year ago! How time flies. Glad I could make you smile. 👌🤘
0 likes“As i just explained to my cat” you are golden, Lady.
0 likesyou have a cat
0 likes@Brittany Batt mine too. Now I need a cat.
0 likesu should read bulgakov's "the master and margarita"
0 likesI too have explained this to my cat.
0 likesI believe all media should be banned from covering high profile and socially charged court cases until the verdict has been passed. "Trial by media" is a real thing, and I believe reporters/news stations should be held to the highest and strictest ethical responsibility for the power they hold to sway public opinion, and even incite public violence.
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In principle I agree with this notion, however I do immediately think of the circumstances where the media can/has played a role in finding the culprit. I guess you could argue the effectiveness given how many bunk calls they will get, but no doubt several cases have probably been solved directly because of the right person seeing the coverage at the right time to turn the investigation with a piece of information.
42 likes@Mario Freedom of the press = freedom to spread lies w/o consequence
37 likesHARD truth.
1 likeBut they can weasel their way around it by saying allegedly , or sources say ... they'd rather be first then be right.
4 likes@Long Dick That officer was not innocent whatsoever..
2 likesLol I am not in favor of the media or police, this is just the way things are in the US. You guys are arguing against me, but I never posed an argument. Just stating fact.
0 likeswatch a vid about the Manila hostage crisis
1 likeHere in Australia we have a law like that. I don’t think it applies for all cases and I’m not sure what the criteria is for the law to be in effect but essentially in high profile cases the media is barred from covering it until a verdict has been given
1 likeYes
0 likes@Amazing Supergirl the media may not influence the jury, but the media most definitely does affect the public, which can sway the jury - and the judge. Racial sensitive cases are especially prone/apt to sway the jury in spite of or sometimes even despite the evidence.
1 like@NinjaPenguin76 Absolutely agree with you on that point. "America's Most Wanted" and "Unsolved Mysteries" were excellent programs which helped to crack some serious cold cases. And, there are news stories which have done the same.
0 likes@Alphawolf0 exactly, take Fox News for example.
0 likesAll they have to say is “we were kidding, only an idiot would believe that we were being serious” and they can go and spread more false claims the next day.
@BanditKeef I hope you mean that as one example as many, in which case I agree.
0 likesIf you're just being coy, oof
@Alphawolf0 yes of many,
0 likesbut them time and time again being the most extreme examples.
Other news stations are careful not to make actual claims, instead they will report the news in a way that looks beneficial to them.
This way they don’t find themselves in court for libel because they haven’t made any claims,
They were just reporting, and clarifying that as of that time they are just, allegations and investigations.
After the rittenhouse case i would disagree. If there were no camras in that courtroom we wouldnt see how scummy prosecutors are. If we dont have video of the trial, then all we have to go on officially is the transcript, which isade by a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE.
0 likes@Mario the press should nit be allowed to lie and slander a criminal defendent, which will put the jury at risk
0 likes@Mario
0 likesThere's also the right to a fair trial
This is the best comment here. Underrated.
0 likesWe watched the footage of the shooting in my use of deadly force policy class at the University of Pittsburgh. Thank you for cutting it off before the casual viewer had to hear the officer’s gurgled cries and his last breathe before being mag dumped. It’s truly horrific but it’s a lesson to be learned in the end
16 likesSo Brannan’s parents lost a son to a plane crash, suicide and then a notorious cop shootout. That’s cruel, god.
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Vietnam war was awful
28 likesYou mean lethal injection
16 likesGod has a strange sense of humor, could be that God is actually evil. 🤷🏾♂️
8 likesThere is no god. That’s the point. Let the fairytale go and life will make a lot more sense.
23 likes@Heather Young hahahaha you guys will see some day. Probably gonna be too late tho, but you've been warned 🤷♂️
7 likes@Prison Mike with high-speed internet access ok bud
8 likesThanks Uncle Sam!
1 like@Arai Daisuke and then they always say that God is testing his subjects, as if the title "all knowing" suddenly becomes irrelevant.
4 likes@Johan Mikkael For someone all-knowing, you'd assume he'd know better than to even try sometimes, lol.
3 likes@Prison Mike with high-speed internet access Which one we will see? There are many gods in history, why is the judochristian one the real?
6 likesIts just insane.Would love to have a look at this family birth chart
0 likesMy papa was in the Army during the Vietnam war. My parents dismissed his “stories” as nothing but incoherent old man speak, and made fun of him for telling the same ones over and over. As kids, we brushed it off too and boiled it down to papa being crazy. When I was old enough to understand the horrors of the Vietnam war, my papa’s mind had become even worse and his speech was even less coherent than before. Still, he sat down with me and relayed the most horrific moments of his life like he was reading from a book. Stories about his friends being blown to pieces just days after excitedly sharing what they were going to do when they returned home. Schools burned to the ground. Sexual misconduct driven by soldiers unto innocent Vietnamese civilians, and children being slaughtered in their homes while they slept. In one instance, my papa and a few of his fellow soldiers stood outside a camp while a young woman approached them speaking her native tongue. The guys kept trying to get her to stay back, at one point drawing their weapons in an attempt to at least get her to stop moving. Sobbing, she kept moving forward screaming something over and over, seemingly pleading for help. One of the soldiers took it upon himself to fire at the young woman, killing her almost instantly. Upon further investigation, they realized she was pregnant and freaked out. They buried her outside the camp and never said a word, and he still thinks about her every single day. He was returned home shortly afterwards after being blown up, leading to the loss of his right eye and use of his right leg. He still has pieces of shrapnel inside his body. His health is not doing so great these days, but he has lived as much of a comfortable life as he can since coming home from war. He still has bouts of anger and sadness and sometimes he forgets who we are entirely, but he’s doing the best that he can with what he has left.
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That is a truly haunting experience that I'd never expect any man to recover from. I'm so sorry.
1 likeIt's almost as if the human mind isn't supposed to experience others getting blown to pieces by land mines. Who would've thought
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We did use to hunt, kill and then cut the animal to pieces tho losing fellow hunters in the process
65 likes@Apoc skinning and eating an animal to stay alive is a little different than seeing your friends get turned to mist and chunks in a split second though
598 likes@Apoc It's one thing to grow up in the wild doing those things. Humans back then were nothing like humans today. They were used to tough lives and hunting and honestly they weren't that much different from animals. Also hunting isn't comparable to war. Also also, what the person above me said☝️. So saying "cavemen didn't get ptsd from hunting so modern people surely can't get it from war." Isn't really a valid argument. It's comparing apples to oranges.
303 likes@Jamie Murray in all honesty, in a sense, the enemies had planted those mines to kill enemies, therefore a means of surviving
8 likes@W@tch Peace has never been more predominant over the last 100 years than ever in the history of humanity, and yet we have had over a hundred different major wars all over the world with two of them being global and having a 100million deaths/casualties combined, not to mention political deaths and others (ex. communism from the soviet Russian and Chinese Mao's count up an estimate of over 100million to 200million) and yet, peace has never been more predominant, the human mind can take much more than you think, it just depends on how you grow up to endure the future, to the medieval growing up boy seeing a dead body on his door step might have been common, so violence becomes a normal reality.
26 likesMost of those ppl that went to Nam and came back mentality affected happened because they were taken from their healthy moderately lives and thrown to a hell hole war were they lived in constant fear, violence and drugs etc... Violence is in our nature as it is in every animal, so yeah man, your sarcasm does not make much sense, but ofc, its not good at all to have ppl die needlessly in either wars or whatever.
@JonesiBoy Beastmode Oh god, it’s one of those “Well, technically, if you put your mind in this very specific point of view, on a cosmic scale, when you play with the words a little bit” kids you always had in class.
58 likes@JonesiBoy Beastmode the enemies are other humans either forced into war or manipulated by their countries propaganda to go. Killing an "enemy" should be as traumatizing for a sane human as seeing people from their own country get murdered.
34 likes@Jack Hanson The "Nazis had cooler tanks and uniforms tho" kid
7 likes@Shaggy I mean, yeah. The bad guys always get all the cool shit.
8 likesThis is like saying chihuahuas used to be wolves
8 likesnot true, its just not everyone can handle that. majority can handle it and a minority is even on the other end of the spectrum, they can not only handle but be their best in that situation. world isnt black and white
1 likeIt's almost as if we've been indoctrinated to be unable to cope with it. Who would've thought. Keep drinking the kool-aid. Gotta ask though. Does it taste bitter?
2 likes@Apoc do you think a human from 10K years ago would be able to survive and act "rationally" without hurting themselves or others in modern America?
1 like@Jamie Murray day in and day out. The noise, the blasts, the constant anxiety, panic, fear and stress of dying, blown to pieces, getting caught alive tortured. No wonder the PTSD.
4 likes@BoneSaw Mcgraw props to you for getting the joke
2 likes" Humans back then were nothing like humans today....honestly they weren't that much different from animals"
6 likeshumans have been anatomically the same for tens of thousands of years, same human just different circumstances. if any of us had been born 50,000 years ago we would fit right in
@asdf I'm talking about culture and experiences, not anatomy
6 likes@Ashbrowny aze The black book of communism cites those numbers, look for a better source man, don't go spreading around false stuff man.
2 likes@James Bond the only one that seems like they are “drinking the kool aid” is you buddy
0 likes@Aurora Gil Death happens, every day. The fact that certain human minds can't seem to process it is a result of social conditioning; it starts at birth. Not my fault you can't comprehend that.
2 likes@James Bond We can process it very well, if it werent for that everyone would be depressed around their 50s because their parents likely already died. Fear of death is literally the reason why we are still here, all animals fear death and also suffer if they have lost another animal from their pack, thats been observed many times with many species, some even prefer to get eaten theirselves to safe the pack like meerkats. If youre talking about ptsd, its not the death that scars people, its the gore, the guilt and the loss of their comrades that haunts returning soldiers. Most soldiers have already lost at least someone in their lives but they did still go to war because they had never seen how random quick and gory death actually is. No mentally stable person would feel fine after seeing the battlefields of afghanistan.
2 likes@Big D love how you have alread labelled someone who CAN handle it as "unstable". Starting to see your indoctrination yet?
2 likes@Mette B killing animals to eat isn’t shitty. It’s just normal.
2 likesNot true. Ppl have been fighting wars since... probably since 2 differtent tribes met each other. War is probably the most impactful aspect of human history, it's responsible for big part of human progress and it will never really go away. It's only modern ppl who are sheltered like this
2 likesYeah, they are supposed to kill each other using barehands and sharp knives instead. Dude, humans have been killing each other like animals, forever, much worse that anything that we currently hear about in our recent documented history. The onky difference now, is that some have been recorded on films and photos taken. Humans have always been the most savage and vicious animals that ever existed.
0 likes@Apoc that was for a purpose. a purpose we are naturally conditioned to through genetics as hunter gatherers. nobody knew the purpose of this war then, and now it's even grayer than before.
0 likes@Wew Lad well this war actually can be compared to Wolves fighting for their territory
1 like@Apoc no it can't because we don't think like animals purely on instinct, we have emotions. they didn't know why they were there, they knew they were invading and saw death and destruction constantly. wolves don't get PTSD
3 likes@prom night Dumpster baby those animals typically dont develop the same emotional connections that humans do. The monkey that kills another does not suddenly become aware of all the other monkeys that death will hurt. Plus what we used to be doesnt matter, we live in comfort and safety and being exposed to that shit is such a juxtaposition its no wonder people collapse.
2 likesThat's why we citizens fight the wars while the real people in government pushing them sit comfy from home. I'm not saying they dont see bad things but being there is completely different. Theres a song that comes to mind "why dont presidents fight the war,why do they always send the poor" System of a DOWN. Or black sabbath war pigs video comes to mind. An with how soft society is today an the fact people hate thier own homeland...if a war broke out,expect a draft because ain't nobody going to be signing up. 911 was a big part of boosting our military numbers. An then those same people who signed thier life away to protect end up guarding poppy fields. Still to THIS DAY...an the opium or heroin problem got 50x larger after we went to war. The numbers do not lie. An eith a fresh pipeline to Afghan heroin....china felt cut out so then boom fentanyl floods the US. Mostly manufactured in CHINA.
2 likes@arctictimberwolf i personally dont believe god exists but no big deal all good. And the animal thing is based on observed behaviours and i suppose a level of assumption, much as you made an assumption about not knowing whats in our own hearts. But yeah we're all here to have a nice days and talk its cool
0 likes@Mitchell Hall , Hmmm, well, played, k, talk,
0 likesI do not assume Anny Thing, I know exactly the thoughts of each of your hearts. I know that you believe not that God turned those two skyscrapers to dust in mid air before the eyes of the whole world with the Power of His Word, but I did And you are gonna have to live with that...
1-nothin'... your move!
@arctictimberwolf what? I genuinely dont know what youre talking about?
0 likes@Mitchell Hall , That's Cool Mitch;^D.
0 likesHave A Nice Day!
@Pepe Silvia Pepe silvia😂 u are speaking facts!
0 likes@BTS: Behind The Screen Yes, I think a "caveman" could do okay in the present aside from the incredible culture and technology shock. You should study a bit more about human life 10k years ago, or even double that. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions about it, judging by this thread.
3 likes"isn't supposed to" lol
0 likesWhat? Some people are killing people very violently and are fine with it. It's not a human mind, it's a person's mind.
0 likesI actually disagree. Humans have warred with each for our entire history. That being said, our minds never evolved as fast as the technology that we developed to do so. War fighting is much more violent and brutal in the modern era. Men never spontaneously exploded from landmines a thousand years ago
0 likescan someone explain connection of 2 stories?
0 likesWhy are people arguing here assuming PTSD is somewhat new though? As if its caused by the way wars are fought today and not simply by overwhelming stress caused by war, or more specifically constant fight for your life alongside your brothers in arms dying left and right.PTSD was common among soldiers in EVERY war. Soldiers returning from Afganistan to the US got PTSD, WW2 soldiers got "combat fatigue", WW1 soldiers got "shell shock", and all the way back to (for example) Roman soldiers fighting in their legions were described in many texts as victims of PTSD-like symptoms, and since Romans had a tendency to rip everything off the Greeks, Alexander the Great and his soldiers were often described as having overwhelming mental issues due to battle related stress. And knowing how Greeks ripped off Egyptians in so many ways I wouldn't be surprised if their soldiers had the same problems but I never got into Egyptian history so I can't tell much about that.
3 likes@Logan Taylor no it is not. Now they use drones, helis, rockets, so for the most part they don't see their enemies dying in person. It was much more brutal and violent in ancient and medieval times, when you had to mutilate someone's limbs, and you couldn't kill an enemy quickly.
0 likesWhat about the hundreds of thousands who did comeback and while not being better off still maintained sanity
0 likes@W@tch tough men create soft worlds.. soft worlds create soft men...soft men create tough worlds...tough worlds create tough men..
0 likesTough men...
Modern weapons of war are far more destructive than anything before 1500 that people would regularly experience
0 likes@Apoc very very different, we are very much used and made for violence but not things like fire arms and much less explosives.
0 likesPtsd is your mind and body adapting to combat, it's good for the battlefield, but not when you come back home
1 like@woswas denni The people who can do it tho have a different problem I’d say. Lack of empathy for their fellow human
0 likes@Vyas Chady That’s not the majority tho. We can pinpoint the reasons why a human would have satisfaction in torturing or killing humans or animals. It’s something wrong with their brain. Humans aren’t just naturally sadistic. Or perhaps not even something physce related. Some humans killed each other because religion told them others of different faiths were the enemy.brainwashed and manipulated. Most people just want to live a happy peaceful life
1 likeI’d bet money us humans have seen much much much worse and handled it without a problem
0 likes@W@tch No it isn't.
1 likeNothing has changed biologically, unless you mean to imply that modern diets and environments have made humans less capable of basic emotional regulation. You might have a point there, as mammals in high concentrations tend to go crazy and do things that are maladaptive for spreading genes. But extrapolating Calhoun's behavioral sink to modern cities is a bit of a stretch. Tokyo certainly isn't more dangerous than Detroit, and the population densities couldn't be further away from each other.
Also comparing cavemen to animals is interesting, because it's almost inverted from typical meaning. It's generally regarded that poor emotional regulation and weak impulse control is a sign of animalistic behavior. Wild dogs will scarf down any scrap of food they can get because impulse control means starvation there. Cavemen seem to be excellent at it though, using your hypothetical, because they don't show emotion from their friends being killed (although this is demonstrably false; cavemen had burial rites and funerals just like we do) or whatever. On the other hand, moderns complain about what previous peoples might have considered a "memento mori", "shikata ga nai", or "damned shame" depending on the language.
I'd argue it's more cultural, in that modern Anglosphere culture is less stoic and accepting of life as it comes than it was in the past, but whatever you want to believe.
But PTSD and such is usually a sign of poor emotional regulation and probably has demonstrable neuropsychological markers, if not before, then certainly after. People who go through traumatic events without getting PTSD, which is most people (around 90% of women and 95-98% of men, by population average; it's probably closer to 60% and 80% in trauma populations), show larger hippocampi and amygdala volumes, which usually means that their brains have adapted to the trauma to give them greater emotional regulation. PTSD people have smaller or similar pre-traumatic volumes, so their brains didn't just not adapt, they could actually have shrunk. But such emotional brainlets are rare in general. Modern Anglo culture amplifies it because it's a hot topic button, but that's because modern Anglo culture latches onto things like this without being able to see the "other side of the hill", i.e. it compares itself to a mythical ideal instead of reality.
For all we know, moderns could be even more stoic and tough than cavemen, and PTSD in Anglo population groups is at its lowest rates biologically possible!
@dead yami Yeah, cavemen were a lot better prepared mentally and psychologically for the rigors of living austerely. Vikings were also substantially more violent than the average Vietnamese insurgent or whatever though.
0 likesHomeless people are the closest to austere living in the modern age, in the true sense of Greek stoics like Diogenes.
People aren't as violent anymore as they used to be though, since long term trends are decreasing violence. Maybe if human population collapses then people will be violent again, or if there's some sort of global famine due to climate change disrupting crops for a year or two.
Violence is rape are very spiritual things. There’s a reason these things create such a deep trauma.
0 likes@Apoc the voice of the gods
0 likesTo quote a testimony from the war, "A new gunner, a black kid who had recently been a grunt, had come over with me and Leese. We had stayed back, but he had gone closer to the pile of bodies just to look. He started wailing and crying and pulling at the corpses and had to be dragged away. He had seen his brother a the bottom of the heap."
0 likes@W@tch i am so glad i get to tell you that your concept of early humans is horribly outdated. Early "cave men" were indeed able to show campassion, acquire ptsd (which actually helped in their daily survival situation but has horrible effects in our modern day), as well as had the ability to practice sympathy and empathy. Prime examples of this would be:Shanidar cave, SH14 skull, and the 4000 yro arabian pennysula girl with muscular disease. We as a species no longer see much of survival of the fittest because we generally try and make sure everyone survives. But this also means we're affected deeply when we see people who we've formed bonds with die.
2 likes@Mette B huh?
0 likesPeople who don’t experience death around them will surely suffer PTSD. People who’ve experienced death around them will most likely handle death with relative ease.
0 likesstories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme alot of it.
0 likes@James Bond wtf are you on even
0 likes@James Bond seems like you can’t comprehend world beyond your wild artificial theories.
0 likes@James Bond ah yes, “indoctrination”, so you’re a conspiracy theorist, thanks for making that clear.
0 likes@FlymanMS Society is no different than a cult. You're just a member and can't see it.
0 likes@FlymanMS Sounds like something a cult member would say. Why? So a psychiatrist can throw a label on me and oppress me with one? All because I don't goose step along with society's doctrine?
0 likesHell if I don't - then I can have medication forced on me.
Do you believe you live in a free society?
Do you still believe the Dutch burned down the reichstag as well?
Keep goose stepping. Every reich needs it's brownshirts.
It's so frustrating to watch cops act out of emotion, because while they might get a little satisfaction from kicking this murderer in the face, they turn HIM into the victim. His crimes are open and shut, and their stupidity helps build his defense.
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I don’t think I’d have the strength to be to totally objective, confronting a man who killed a pregnant woman, an infant, and a truly excellent coworker of mine. I agree that it’s foolhardy, but you can’t deny that it’s intensely human.
27 likes@Shep It's not human it's stupid. This is the sort of primitive behaviour that will ease human replacement by AI.
0 likes@GI Jane 2, can't wait to see you lol yeah you will
9 likesThis guy is an example of a casualty that never gets counted in the official tallies.
65 likes😟 I remember watching that dash cam & was sickened by it. It's interesting yet tragic to see a different side of the shooter. Just about every aspect of this case is deeply unfortunate.
2 likesIn my opinion, this is the best video you've made. You hand picked the best examples of how videos play so much effects in determining how cases will be judged, and in this case how we viewers look from another perspective that you brought. The thinking behind this, the narration, and Vietnam War clips at the beginning... everything is just pure genius work. This channel and especially this video outwitted those documentaries in Netflix. Brilliant work!
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Without a doubt that this has to be the most fucked up and confusing video I have ever seen on YouTube
0 likesLiterally one of the highest quality YouTube channels ever
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I just love everything he says .
6 likes@A C oki so you know him and his other channels to than? Maybe he is one of my fb friends so stfu ok? Greetings from Norway 😠
5 likesOn fuckin gang g
1 like@Sylwia kizzume said multiple times that he doesnt have anything to do with the channel other than the naration, the creator is a different person.
43 likes@Leo ....🤓....
0 likesEasily
1 likeEspecially the bloody intros.
3 likesAgreed 5000 per cent ;-) .. .. The video editing too is really superb, also the music choices are perfect along with the content.
9 likes@Sylwia !!
0 likes@Marcos Romero 🙋
0 likesyea but i finished all the uploads in a day
2 likes@Leo so he just narrates? The editor and writer is someone different?
6 likesfor real
0 likesAbsolutely
0 likes@Trevor Williams I finished in 2 days and now i want more.
1 likeIll join the other three thousand people. Well said man.
1 likeIve been here since day one
1 likeMy god right?!
1 like@Patti M nobody makes better original true crime content !
0 likesDefunctland and RedLetterMedia are also absolute bangers too.
0 likesAgreed. I absolutely LOVE this content.
0 likesYes. I only wish he had more videos. Way more.
1 likeAgree
1 likeIv almost watched every vid now xD
1 likeYou ain’t ever tell a lie 🤙🏻
1 like@b5czarnowski idk about all that shit
0 likesHighest quality media this dude needs to be an expert to any law enforcement or combat life
1 likeThe best.
0 likesEasily!!! I would rather watch jcs content than most others!! It's sooo very educational!
0 likesTry lemmino
0 likescheck out Ahoy
0 likesThat's a very true and unfortunate statement Mario
0 likesHear!! Hear!!! One of the absolute best,
0 likes@Sylwia hva skjer
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likesThis channel and Lemmino
0 likesEvery second is worth attention
0 likesThis, Technology Connections, and Defunctland are next level channels, absolutely professional dudes
0 likesI cannot even name a better channel
0 likesdude, please make more videos. You are MAGIC. I cry in almost every video that you make. You are an amazing creator and I wish I could get daily uploads
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As much as we all wish this could happen, these videos take incredible lengths of time to even research; let alone fact checking, writing a script for 1+ hours worth of documentary, voice overs + any necessary retakes and editing. It's a long process, and as much as it sucks he's a one man team. All we can do is show him our full support TwT
0 likes"A broken mind is like a broken vase: you can glue it back together, but it will never be the same again." Pieces will always be missing, no matter how hard you try. From experience: this is why it is important to stay on your meds if you have PTSD or severe mental illnesses. A completely rational person, through a chemical imbalance in the brain, becomes someone else entirely.
44 likesHe never meant to be that way, although he DID chose to shoot the police officer with a gun. Andrew I mean. That was a choice. But the circumstances are mitigating, he was made that way. If he had never gone to Vietnam, he might have lived a totally normal life.
It is unfair to blame someone for having a mental condition that causes those symptoms, as much as it is unfair to blame a person with a damaged heart if they have a heart attack. But where does that end? How far can we point to and say: "this was his illness, it was not his fault"? I do not know, and I do not feel I have a right to judge.
What is most saddening is that if Andrew had gotten more support from the state as a veteran, this might not have happened. He was a good man, I got the feeling, his dog certainly thought so. He and his comrades went through hell, in a war they did not start, and saw horrible things. They were forced to. You can tell from the pictures at the end, if nothing else. You can see they were in pain.
No one should have to live with that. If you or anyone you know are experiencing mental health issues PLEASE SEEK HELP . You are not alone and there are people who care.
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It’s way too easy to not stay on ones meds though. We have millions of people who are a couple of days away from going crazy if they decide to not take their meds. That’s what happens when you do away with asylums and let these people loose and think that they’re just gonna “take their meds” as prescribed and be ok.
2 likesWhile there’s no doubt the US is at fault for fucking this guy up, where my sympathy ends is that he chose to take out an innocent person rather than just committing suicide.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth Agreed, that's why I have no sympathy for you. Taking out innocent braincells like that.
0 likes@Beaverish Buck Teeth Exactly. There's a fine line between mental health problems causing seriously fatal behaviour, and having murderous intent. The key is support. You, however, place too much blame on people "deciding not to take their meds." Depending on the person, and their condition, a conscious decision is not always the case.
2 likesAlso, "these people", if you are referring to the mentally ill are also people. They are not a different or separate breed of person. This is a way of thinking that is natural, no one wants to think about it happening to themselves, and so mental distance is put between you and them. This type of thing can happen to anyone, billions of people are one severely traumatic experience away from serious mental health issues. Think of it as akin to a car accident or something similar, no one is immune. It could happen to you, tomorrow.
Unfortunately, asylums were not well run, badly used, and their patients very ill treated. That is why they were eventually phased out. Once put in there, people in general were left to deteriorate, in an "out of sight, out of mind" type mindset. Those who were and are institutionalised are contained, rather than given enough help to properly recover. One of the better developments of recent times is that mental health is more widely discussed, and carries slightly less stigma. Still, the more serious conditions does still cause some of the public to shy away from a wish to fully understand, as it makes them feel uncomfortable.
Yet, I thank you for your reply. The US mental health system is severely lacking, we can both agree on that. There are so many who are, as you correctly stated, just cast adrift without support, and what is worse, without the required medication if they cannot afford it, at least to my understanding.
I love how you painted him as a person and not as the "guy who killed Kyle Dinkheller"
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Every human is a person.
7 likes@MassivePonyFan except Michael refferte
4 likes@Hadi Putraw also Watts
8 likesI’ve watched that dash camera footage plenty of times for training purposes. I never knew who the “perp” truly was. I didn’t even recognize the story until you mentioned the officers name. Truly a saddening story.
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This video (imo) would be helpful if added to training as well.
0 likesTruth. I hate saying it because...I feel like an asshole... but I always wish Kyle would have said something....when Andy said "I am a Vietnam Combat Veteran ".... something human. ...not... "step back Now"... the police ranting... did seem to tip Andrew over the edge. It really looks like a little bit of humanity could have helped. It ...is scary that this video is now used as "you need to shoot sooner" training.
0 likes@Jath 2112 Try and do that to a person who was speeding like crazy and your about to get off shift this is 98 it isnt like what we got today i respect andy for apologizing but we shouldnt forget that the Officer was also a person who was young and just had a baby
0 likesWell... down to my last video from this channel after watching each over the past few days
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Same🤣
115 likesme too
53 likesI'm surprised how this is last vedio of so many people and i have known this channel just few days too..
171 likes+1
12 likesSAME
13 likesSaame
9 likesMe too!
5 likesI’m in tears 😭 punching the air! I love ❤️ these videos!
23 likesIts crazy how he has only a couple of videos and over 3 mill subscribers
39 likesbruh, youtube algorith is weird lol.
9 likesi watch your videos as well
Me too lol
0 likesDamn, same lol
1 likesame 😂
1 likeYep same :-)
1 likeHow tf is this everyone’s last video and we all started with what pretending to be crazy looks like?!? Wtf is really going on here 😂
72 likesLast one for me too. The one YouTube doesn't recommend.
12 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
10 likes@Jam yes! I watched all according to views! I knew if they had a lot of views then it must be the more interesting ones!
3 likes@Jam that case got me so angry. Can’t believe that’s how it all went down
1 like@Daniella Lively I think the part that gets us hooked is that regardless of who you are we all have subconscious thoughts about the exact things these people do and go through with, the only thing that differentiates us between them is the ability to recognize that these thoughts are only subconscious and we have the ability to determine those thoughts from right or wrong and act upon that accordingly. Knowing right from wrong I think it's natural that humans are infatuated with the process of thinking that goes into why you would choose the "wrong" instead of the right. At least in my eyes that's case, I love putting myself into the minds of these people, trying to understand why they would do these things? What compels them? What do they gain?
10 likes$0.02
Same!
0 likes@noname I think age restriction makes a video not get recommended, or possibly just much less likely to be recommended. To see this one I had to click the channel.
3 likesThis was my last video of the channel too, weird!
1 likeWhen he drop his next new video it might go trending!
3 likesfun fact, this used to be called Jim Can't Swim and he had an intro song, it was "life could be a dream" trap remix
0 likesthose videos are all gone now? no intro? This was back when these vids were first dropping and he only had 60k subs tho
Omg did we all leave this one for the last one?!
9 likesSame I just started now I hope it’s a good one
2 likeshahaha it is so strange how this is the last for so many people! It is my last as well based on the look of the thumbnail
3 likes@Carly Geiger it's really not strange, the videos have 30+ million views and there are only like 17 videos so every single one of those people - has a "last" video out of the 17.
4 likesStatistically, 1,764,705.882352941 people out of the 30 million who watch all the videos would have this be their last video.
If 1% of them comment, that's 17,647 comments.
If 1% of THAT 1% comments, well we have this reply thread
Not strange at all
he has some unlisted ones yall
0 likes@Daniella Lively What bothers me even more than that she is a killer and running around free of justice is her statements to the media she is enjoying it she said “I’m still not even certain as I stand here today about what happened,” while in the court her Attorney was sure that the kid drowned, she also said "'I sleep pretty good at night'" and " i don't give a f what people think of me" even her parents said that it's trange thing to say after all what happendand after the lost of her child she is happywith it.
1 likeLmao why did we all save this one for last
1 likeSame here dude 😂
0 likesYou can see the video of the police officer being shot on YouTube. Pretty wild 😬
0 likesI am in the exact same situation. Tell me if you find something to watch next that is somewhat equivalent.
1 likeOmg me too help what am i gonna do now
1 likethis is also my last video!!
1 likesame lol
1 likeSame man waiting patiently for a new post.
1 like😂😂😂
0 likesSame. 🥺
0 likesme toooooo
0 likesIn the same train here too
0 likesYouTube got us all acting the same...
0 likesyoooo exact same here hahah
0 likesSaaaaame
0 likesSame
0 likesIt's sad isn't it? Lol
0 likesNo way same 🤣
0 likesThe dude that narrates it, suits it so well 😅 okay next question was the one before this the one about the guy who had an apprentice kidnap the poor soul 8 year old girl 😩
0 likesHaha me too!
0 likesSame, now what? 😳
1 like@JustMeHere XX Back to watching Bailey Sarian 🤗
0 likesyeah, we need more
1 likeYup
0 likes@More Sarms More Arms NERD
1 likeSammmme what’s up homie 😂
0 likes@noname bc youtube doesn’t recommend it cuz it’s like sensitive to younger viewers of whatever
2 likes@Daniella Lively oh my god same!!!!
1 likeLITERALLY ME OMG
1 likeI NEED MORE CONTENT ASAP!!
Love this channel!
Sameeee
0 likes@noname its because this one is age restricted so it's harder to watch, so it ends up being watched once you've ran out of the other videos
0 likesSame hahaha
0 likesNow what am i supposed to do with my life
1 like@THE BEGINNERZ - SAME !!!!!
0 likessame😔
0 likesSame
0 likesSame, started a wild ride with the faking insanity video
0 likesI’ve been subbed to him since 1k and I couldn’t be happier to see his success. Absolutely Fantastic content.
3 likesNo one cares
0 likessame, i think for many this is the last video for many because youtube takes it out of the algorithm due to the suggestive warnings
1 likeDamn how evreyone watching it at the same order
0 likesthis was my last too HOW - being fed with youtube algorithms daily, we're all just practically the same person now haha
1 likeSame!
0 likesDitto
0 likesSame!
0 likeslol same. need more!
2 likesMe too!
1 likeSame!
1 likeSame lol prolly cuz it’s least views
0 likesMeeee too
0 likesSame lol
0 likesMeeee:((
0 likesDamn same lol.
0 likesLast video gang!!!
0 likesSame
0 likes@Daniella Lively 😂😂 right!!
1 likeSame haha
0 likessame lmao
0 likessame.. I hope there is more coming :')
0 likesIkr
0 likes@Daniella Lively i think it's because we all sort the videos by most viewed. This one is the least viewed on his channel so we all saved it for last
2 likesI have only 1 left :( I think I'm gonna save it and treasure it. Nah, gonna watch right now!
0 likesSame and I’m sad . I wish there thousands of videos 🤦🏽♀️
0 likesIt really is addicting lol
0 likesSame
0 likesI need to find more channels like this
0 likesSame here! I lost my damn mind!
0 likesHow is this everyone's last video!?
0 likeshow come this was the last one for all of us? hmmmm interesting........
0 likeslast video too. maybe it was everyone’s since it’s the shortest one
0 likesIt’s been… quite a couple of days. Watching too many of these is not great for mental health!
0 likes@noname Last video that I had left to watch as well, and what a doozy!!
0 likes@Amara Young Yes... yes we did
0 likesThis is everyone's last video for this channel, hopefully the channel is still in production for more vids
1 likesame :(
0 likesSame lol
0 likesMy life is going to be so empty after this.
0 likessame!
0 likesDid you all go in order of view count too?? Because same 😂
1 likesame!
0 likesi think this is everyone's last video because its one of the shortest ones maybe, idk it's weird we all started with "what pretending to be crazy looks like" and ended with this video
1 likeWtf Same here
0 likesGood one to end the marathon on
0 likesme too! weird that this is the last to be reccomended
0 likes@julia argentiero right? and if you look at the view comparison it’s so much lower than the others especially “what pretending to be crazy looks like”
0 likesJudging by the thumbnail I assumed it was going to be a typical veteran gone crazy case so I purposely left it for last
1 likewait this is also my last video lol
0 likesSame here, man
0 likesThat's funny i also left this until last because the thumbnail didn't seem as interesting as the other vids.
1 likeMe too!
0 likesDitto. More! I need more!
0 likesYup
0 likesOng great quality channel
0 likesOmg me too!
0 likesBro, This was my last video of this channel too!!
0 likesThere is a few you haven’t watched on another playlist
0 likesLike the case of prince charles
0 likesWow we all really have been living the same life for the last few days 😂
0 likesSame here and loving it give us more please
0 likesSame
0 likeswait people aren’t watching them all in one day
0 likesI did it all in a whole day... I feel lethargic lmao
0 likes@Daniella Lively it's actually creepy..like..seriously
0 likes@Amara Young it’s because it’s the one with the least amount of views so it seemed like it might be boring 😩
0 likes@Shawn Corrigan same, i did 😂
0 likesWHERE IS ANDY B AND WHY HE SUDDENLY TURNED BLACK
0 likesErm im not the only one who knows this but he has like 30 odd videos on his patreon page so if you want more content head there.
0 likesOmg! Same!
0 likesSAME!! fate? I think NOT!!
0 likesOmg same lol
0 likes@Jam That's not true. It's that the jury didnt have enough evidence to say beyond reasonable doubt that Casey was the killer. And unless they can prove that theres no doubt, they cannot convict.
0 likessame here bro ;D
0 likesThis is my last video too lol
0 likes@AKUMA thank you 🙏🏾
0 likesHahaha, I've got one left after this.
0 likesSame!! And im so sad now!!
0 likesMe too lol
0 likes@More Sarms More Arms hello fellow comrade, more dishes more bishes
1 like@Troubled Waters k weirdo
0 likes@Trucker Rawb BOI
0 likesbrohug (nh)
same
0 likeswait was this just the least interesting looking video to you all too
0 likesYa that happened all too fast for me, and i havent found another channel NEARLY as well made as this. these videos are amazing.
0 likesSame this the last video i havnt seen
0 likesMe too 😔
0 likesRight time for him to put a new one up lol
0 likesSame T.T
0 likesKinda weird how this is the last video to most people
0 likes@nonameme to. That's scary
0 likesMe too. I left this one for the last. Fantastic channel.
0 likesExact same
1 likeSame😞
0 likesUghh same make moreee
0 likessame 😭😭😭😭
0 likesSame
0 likes@noname same here
0 likessame
0 likesliterally same
0 likesSAME 😭
0 likesWell you saved the best for last
0 likesShit just noticed I’m on the same boat.
0 likesMe too 😭
0 likesme too lmao
0 likesSame
0 likesLol this was the last video for me too. Coincidence?
0 likes@Daniella Lively Yes totally crazy that i started with pretending to be crazy and this is the last one i don't get it.
0 likesThis is also my last video 😬😳
0 likesWeird
0 likesThis is my last video too lol
Same 😭
1 likeRIP me too
0 likesMe too 😭
0 likesSAMEEE lmao
0 likes@Vibeswell wait, what?
0 likesSame here
0 likesSame!
0 likessame here. last video, but it's taken me months. lol
0 likesThis one is, by far, for me, at least, the most tragic. After reading a comment about the dashcam footage at the end, I couldn't finish it. The thought of hearing the officer's screams and his horrifying death will haunt me forever, and I just refuse.
0 likesI'm sorry for your loss... you will experience grief and sorrow but their is hope! I've watched all of the videos twice, and I'm desperately waiting for more uploads!! Pray for new videos!
1 likeOne of the most touching yet disturbing documentaries I have ever seen.
55 likesIsn't it terrifying to think that in this time in the US, that a rookie police officer could find himself in a firefight against someone who only survived two tours in a brutal war such as Vietnam, but also won two medals for bravery under fire.
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@Aries solar Hijiri yeah acab baby
2 likesOf all the stories on this channel, this is the only one that really gave me a sense of injustice. I’m reading these comments about other vets’ experiences and just absolutely heartbroken. How can we still go to war when all it does is destroy both foreign nations and our own people?
16 likesAndy’s final words literally brought tears to my eyes. At the young age of 21 he became a decorated hero. And he suffered for it for the rest of his life.
The state gave him trauma and called him a hero. The same state executed him. The irony is strong. It’s more than irony, it’s injustice.
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Getting a medal is a shiny consolation. The government doesn’t want you to realize you were no more than a pawn in their game. What does being a hero get you? A lifetime of suffering, at best. They send you to hell, and for what? What’s the point?
1 likeIt’s just such a waste of human life. Such a waste.
That’s a lie. You clearly havnt watched the Casey Anthony case. Now that’s injustice.
1 likeI like your black lady pfp
0 likes@Westles You ask the right questions and make the right statement. Only governments and private entities benefit from war...never civilians, families or soldiers.
0 likesThis whole situation is tragic. The fact that PTSD only made him a harm to others. Its so sad, people join the military to make a difference and to honorable things... but they come back with PTSD and can't even feel proud of themselves. It's so saddening.
16 likesBrannen's story is nothing short of a tragedy. Feeling like the draft will never end, he signs up for service, and then proceeds to have most the people he's known in his adult life die around him. He comes home, and loses both of his brothers. He tries finding help for PTSD, and then is sentenced to death after his mental issues become demonstrably too severe for public safety. Literally what was he supposed to do for himself - he dedicated his life to America, and America failed him.
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America does not care about veterans. Period
176 likesIt’s criminal
Oh and let's not forget we constantly vote for war hawks that have no problems putting our troops in harm's way if a foreign leader looks at them the wrong way.
73 likesLand of the Free...
16 likesWell said
6 likes@Christopher Downs "You should join the military! It gives so many benefits for your future!"
50 likes40 years pass
"Vietnam vet
Need food
God bless"
@VERY Excited Doggo I tried but when I did they didn't accept people with acl/mcl repairs.
0 likeshe was given the death penalty for mercilessly murdering an innocent cop... as he absolutely should have been.
7 likesI'm not American so I always wondered why people voluntarily join the military. Does it pay that good or are those people so brainwashed into thinking it's their patriotic duty?
10 likes@joanna_k The answer lies in poverty. Under it, the prestige and arguably not sufficient pay (relative to risk) of military service might seem a viable optian. The American self-perception as Guardians of the world's liberties probably doesn't hurt either, though.
12 likes@joanna_k people join to feel a sense of purpose often, to get discipline, and as well to defend their country.
3 likesIts so terrible to think about
1 likeThat's what happens when you worship false gods/idols, America is an idol, serving it and then expecting something from it is like serving a stone and expecting a reward from the stone. The vietnam invasion like all the other american invasion have been unjustified. It's no surprise the people who go and murder entire villages of innocents come back with guilt and die in humiliation. May God guide the american people to the straight path.
16 likesdude literally executed a cop
3 likes@Davio it’s insane!! As someone’s who’s not from the us I’m completely speechless just crying over this
4 likesThis is the American way.
2 likesThis comment made me cry. It’s very sad the big slap in the face our vets get from the government.
2 likesAmerica fails its Veterans DAILY. In every conceivable way. I'm married to a man who is disabled, with a 100% service-connected disability. You cannot imagine what we are forced to endure for routine, basic care or services. It should be a crime. This man fought for those of you who could not or would not. In what society is it reasonable to expect him to continue to fight every day for basic dignity and care from the very government he defended, in addition to fighting the disability he labors under?
10 likes@joanna_k You are aware that america isn't the only country with a military that you can voluntarily join? There's countless reasons why people join, my great grandfather joined to defend his country, my grandfather was forced into it and my father did it to piss off my grandfather.
3 likes@Autism is Uncontrollable I never said it was the only one. It is one that has casualties without being attacked though, that's why I'm wondering. I wouldn't go die for a country that declares wars on foreign soil every 2 seconds.
5 likes@Hasan Xorasani and what country are you from?
1 likeHe dedicated his life to a cause and served it thats all
0 likes@LF Thank your husband for his service, I'm sorry that he and you are being treated like this by the same government that was the cause of the disability that he and yourself now have to endure.
2 likesThose that serve in the military and their families deserve so much more, it's beyond comprehension, war breaks human beings into something so unrecognizable and tragic, and yet could be so easily alivated to a degree that would make their life and their families a little more bearable, and that is what is truly heartbreaking.
@DrTubeman
3 likesThanks for your kind words. I will be happy to relay that message. It's a daily challenge, and some days a single nice gesture makes all the difference.....we appreciate it more than you can imagine.
Hope you have a safe and healthy new year!
@LF Thank you, you're most welcome Lorie, I hope your husband and you hear that every day, all the very best for you and your husband and families for 2021, you deserve to have a lot more of what brings a smile to your faces and happiness into your life every day. Safe, healthy, and happier times Lorie.
2 likes@Hasan Xorasani Like all other american invasions? Like that one in the 40s that is likely the primary if not only reason the world isn't under authoritarian or nazi rule? I will not deny that America has been involved in unjustified wars but they have also basically taken care of the worlds problems single handedly for a century now. Whatever country you are from would likely not exist as you know it if not for American military or military spending.
0 likes@Davio America doesn't care about any of its citizens. Except for the very rich.
2 likes@Christopher Downs Now that Biden's in office, get ready for some more wars! Maybe even a draft too. They'll need a big conflict to re-unite our divided country. You know, the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. A conflict that size might call for a draft.
2 likesI have ptsd, but one of the biggest differences between him and I is that I have not hurt anyone because of my own issues. Even as a civilian I’ve tried to get help, but therapy doesn’t help everyone. The only thing that’s truly helped me is teaching myself how to properly deal with my issues and my dog too.
0 likesAlthough he, I, and many other people who have ptsd, we still know right from wrong. He murdered that man and deserves what he got. It’s harsh considering what we know about ptsd, but knowing what I know about my own situation, you have to learn to properly deal with it on your own because ultimately you are the only person that can help yourself.
@Mrs.Estrada • Wishing you best of luck in your recovery. I know that stuff can be a bitch. What kind of symptoms do you get? Body type of stuff? Like, you wanna jump out of your own skin type of feelings? Or something else?
0 likes@Mrs.Estrada • Not all PTSD is the same, I understand what you mean but comparing PTSD from any number of things to PTSD caused from the type of combat Brannan seen is apples and oranges. When someone’s PTSD stems from combat it is going to be a lot different. It is not an accurate statement to say PTSD causes violence however combat PTSD DOES cause violence. It has been studied like crazy since the civil war when the level of violence was unprecedented due to the mass amounts of combat veterans. I believe it was something like 2/3 of all violent crime at the time was committed by combat vets. A veteran with atleast one combat tour is something like 10x more likely to commit violence compared to a non combat veteran with PTSD, let alone a civilian. Not something you can compare as both have been studied and it’s clear they are not the same. War is hell and the link between veterans of combat and violence is something we have known about for centuries...the murder rate doubled in the US after Vietnam.
1 like@Whoop Shoopadoop for me it used to be the an extreme feeling of being in panic or attack mode 24/7, I still have issues dealing with the crippling anxiety, and I used to have nightmares quite often, a lot of times I feel like everyone’s out to get me, but I’ve gotten a ton better. I didn’t even know that I had ptsd until I was 19 and I only found out because it was amplified by postpartum depression which is why I went to seek help because I started experiencing really bad suicidal thoughts as well as some other thoughts that I don’t wish to mention. I’ve dealt with being suicidal for a long time but never the thing that I wish to not talk about. I thought that I had only depression and anxiety growing up, but considering what I’ve been through, ptsd wasn’t really a surprise.
0 likes@Whoop Shoopadoop one thing too that has affected my relationship with people and my marriage is sorta like flash backs, but not like visions. It’s like remembering a situation that happened in the past that was traumatic and the events leading up to it, but something similarly happening in the present time that really doesn’t have anything to do with the traumatic event, but still going into that attack or panic mode. If that makes sense. Like trying to prevent that thing from happening although it’s not going to happen more than likely. That’s another thing that has been difficult, but identifying that and addressing it with myself quickly has helped. Before I thought I was just an extremely irritable person or I was just easy to piss off.
0 likes@Mrs.Estrada • The suicidal thoughts. Were they coming from just feeling hopeless about these crippling attack mode / panic attacks never ending?
0 likes@Whoop Shoopadoop well, sorta a combination of everything and at the time I was going through a really rough situation in my marriage. But one thing I’ll say, is that I felt like I couldn’t love my newborn son and had no clue what to do with a child... having him has reminded me of what I didn’t have growing up. But has also pushed me to change and be a far better parent than what I had experienced growing up. But that’s all I’ll say about that without going into too much detail.
0 likes@Christopher Downs You might “pretend we do” but a lot of people actually do care and support programs that help veterans. The world isn’t all bad dude.
0 likesnot only that but the officer also behaved not very competent and escalated that situation. draw his gun at a time where he didnt need to.
1 likethen didnt use it when he should have. all in all a perfect storm of a shitshow crowned by a horrendous verdict
@ulriksj That’s too simplistic. I joined and was solidly middle class. I did so to serve my country, and to get skills and experience that you cannot actually get nearly as quickly (if ever) in a typical job. People join the military from all segments of American society. And most of those are amazing, dedicated, hard working people who truly want to make the world a better place.
0 likes@Hasan Xorasani Which God? I am assuming from the tone you mean Allah.
0 likesLet it be known to all, America never cared about their veterans. American politicians only care about weapons contracts. Your life is expandable.
1 like@Dan L False. My brother in law is a Colonel in the Air Force who used to run the largest VA PTSD treatment center in the country. Everyone working there has a passion for helping retuning veterans heal and transition back to a normal life. Your comment unintentionally denigrates all of the thousands of people who are spending their lives helping veterans. It is fine to criticize politicians for wrong priorities when they have them. But there are many who do care deeply about veterans health.
0 likesExactly 😭
0 likesAbsolute heartbreaking. I watch this channel all the time and so many are senseless cold blooded killers for something as stupid as money. Yet this tragedy (while senseless) just doesn't seem right. War is not meant for humans, there is forever a price to pay and to expect our soldiers who have been exposed to that type of war (as Vietnam was) we should not expect them to come home and be a regular person in our society
3 likesGreat video! Small note, a large part of why Loyd's interrogation wasn't more useful in his case is because he wasn't given legal counsel after asking for it twice, making everything after the first few minutes of the interrogation practically useless in court.
6 likesAndrew’s case and this episode is imprinted in my mind. I always look back at this episode from time to time. It’s so tragic on what happened to Andrew and Kyle yet that piece of sh*t Markeith Loyd didn’t get what he deserved. It’s just so sad.
9 likesMy grandfather fought in 3 wars.. WWII, Korean, and Vietnam. While he didnt talk about being at war a lot if ever, he would answer questions if we had them. Only thing was we werent allowed to ask was about Vietnam. He made it clear... he did not... and would not talk about Vietnam. So I took that as some serious serious shit went down over there.
3 likesI can only imagine the demons Andy must have had. So so sad!!
How devastating for Andrew's parents. Not only did they lose Andrew, they lost all 3 of their sons ultimately due to war. My heart is breaking.
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Aye they all gone now felt really sad listening to this. His father died five years before Andy killed the police officer and he was buried next to his 2 sons. Just hope they are all buried in same place near each other. Broke my heart with his final words. It’s disgusting how his life ended.
91 likeshe still killed someone its sad he went down that path but he still killed that dude sad all around situation
19 likesa pointless war on top of that
76 likes@J Lane to spread American “democracy” 🤦🏽♂️
71 likes@ANONYMOUS PERSON it was a cop though
4 likesyes, they're the real victims in this story
3 likes@marabut I’m libertarian lol which is why I’m against imperialism, let motherfuckers be... not everyone wants to be americanized? That don’t got shit to do with right or left? Every country got the right to self-determination; which is hard to do with us establishing Military Bases & Interpol in EVERY continent? Theres a reason they don’t like us EVERYWHERE outside of America. I was shocked myself. I lived in Peru 4 years cause of business & they HATE the fact America intervenes in their politics, which we can all agree is fucked up right? If we cant even agree on THAT then Im not even gonna waste my tome with you. You got that big bruh you won
31 likes@Gustavo Ñaña Rosales yeah i agree that the US shouldn't be putting bases everywhere and intervening with affairs that aren't their own. The only time I think the US or even any country should be intervening with foreign affairs would be if horrible atrocities or violations of human rights were taking place like slavery or genocide.
11 likesIkr its so tragic hey I'm Mike🥺
0 likesTotally terrible
0 likesLosing private ryan
0 likes100% agree. The part that really hit me is when it was acknowledged that he apologized to the family before he died and said, "I am glad to be getting out of this place." While he did do wrong, it is so obvious he needed treatment. What a tragic story all around. This is why we need to keep pushing to destigmatize, and bring awareness to, mental health issues.
1 likeNo one wins in a war, literally no one.
4 likes@Saksham Weapons defence contractors win a lot actually, a whole lot.
6 likes@Phiusmes who cares ? No one says he was human to a cop that mercilessly murders a civilian
0 likes@MarQue ThaGod geez, it's just a cop
2 likes@Gustavo Ñaña Rosales Come to anarchism before it's too late.
0 likes@Belfor09 yeah...our government is pretty shitty. The current one is pretending to be progressive but is acting like we can just go back to the 90s and pretend nothing bad happened after that.
0 likesWar is not an entity. It’s because of someone..
0 likesLife sucks
0 likesIt’s a sad reality but as a nation, it’s our duty to fight for it if need be. My father nearly shot my aunt in the face after he came back from Vietnam. This is a reminder that mental health needs MORE exposure and overall need people to be better to their fellow man and children.
2 likes@J Lane aren’t wars
0 likesessentiallyalways pointless?What an absolute gem of a video. I feel tremendous sorrow and admiration for Andrew Brannan. I have naught but scorn for the government that had sent him and so many of his generation to die in a cruel and ridiculous war. This scorn extends to the state of Georgia also for having put Brannan to death without any form of leniency.
9 likesThat last line put tears in my eyes, that man never left the battlefield. I'd like to believe we live in a society today where these problems are rectified but with the war in Afghanistan coming to a close I dunno man.
9 likesThe opening scene is worthy of an award. The way you laced both men's lives together is truly masterful.
10 likes"Im glad to be getting out of this play" so chilling. So much tragedy. His family lost all 3 sons and an innocent officer lost their life as well, the officers kids lost a father.
10 likesOMG i missed one! This is like finding $20 in your pockets.
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Sic fith this specific one was like finding at least a Hundo. Or maybe even 1k...
49 likessame, for some reason yt didnt recommend this one :o
83 likesPerfect way to put it
30 likesMe too! This one was a 50-
8 likessame!!! ive seen them all and i just did a search to see if he uploaded something new and saw this gem
12 likesMe rn
9 likesI just found this one too, it really is like finding money in a random pocket lol. Wish this got a little bit more recognition!!
17 likesSame here.
5 likesSame with me..
12 likesThis was the only video to pop up with a warning on content as well, wonder if that is why it isn't recommended.
Alright clearly there’s no coincidence none of us noticed this lol maybe it got reuploaded back into its same place or something? I swear this wasn’t here just the other day
16 likes@Amanda Car Likely because it's age restricted, YouTube doesn't prioritize age restricted videos
11 likesSame!
1 likeYes! I thought I had seen every video. What a delight to find this.
2 likesthis one is not complete
5 likesthe entire version - way more terrifying - is available at patreon
Samee
2 likes100$
2 likesIt’s like finding a grand in your pocket but it’s soo much money you fall and hurt yourself.
2 likesI wish I carried cash so I could experience this feeling just once.
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesRight? Now that I've watched all of his videos, what do I do?
2 likesRight??
0 likesSame lmao
0 likesthis comment read my mind
0 likesSO DID I! that's why i'm here right now!
0 likesi went like "did i watch this one already?- NO I HAVEN'T" and yeah, it does feel like finding a valuable thing under your bed lol
0 likesI missed it too! Im constantly scrolling to see what is new! More JCS please! You do such a fantastic job!
0 likesI also missed this one for some reason also
0 likesI missed this one also! That's pretty odd.
0 likes@Russian Bot no
0 likesThis reminds me of the Mandela. I swear this video wasn't there before. Might sound crazy but it definitely feels like we've slipped into another timeline... Maybe they had it private or unlisted initially
0 likesSame! Broke my heart at the same time...
0 likesI just found $20, and I also realized that I missed this one. I’ll have you know the feeling of undiscovered JCS is even better.
0 likes🤣🤣🤣 When I just saw it here, like my eyes actually got wide and I heeled my head back like "aaawwww shit!where this come from? "
0 likesYou should’ve seen it before it was dumbed down.
0 likesHaha isn’t it?
0 likes@Russian Bot Doesn’t everyone?😉
0 likes50$ fiddy dollars
1 likeThis video is age restricted and I couldn't watch it on my pc and ps4, but on my phone. Idk why, cause I'm logged in with the same acc and I didn't verify my age. But maybe that's why it doesn't get recommended for some.
2 likes@Puppy Puppington could you imagine pulling out 1k out of a random pair of jeans
0 likesMe too the fuck.
0 likes@Rotkeappchen 123 I did wonder why the views for this video were waaaay down to the other JCS videos. Perhaps it was Shadow Banned by YouTube owing to content?
0 likesForreal! There's also some others by him that are hard to find. Have you seem the one with the canadian military colonel?
0 likesMe too
0 likesI’ve watched this channel for a year but it’s the first time I see this
Probably because it doesn't have near the views, probably because he doesn't narrate it.. alright, he narrates very little.
0 likesThat just happened to me
0 likesWashed out and gone through the dryer, lol
0 likesYou all missed this because it's obviously been tagged as inappropriate by YouTube and does not & will not show up in your reccomended.
0 likesLol totally 😂
0 likesYes
0 likesmade me cry. rip to everyone who was affected by the awful things in this video. i feel for the vet, makes me way more empathetic to those who have served.
4 likesI didn't watch this video for so long and I'm kicking myself for not watching it sooner. JCS is already the best channel on YouTube and this is his best video by far. Thank you for sharing these stories so eloquently.
6 likesHonestly one of the most sad and unfortunate cases ive ever heard of. Ive seen the full video on my own and its something I really cant bear to listen to again. Its disgusting how Vietnam Veterans were treated, and its sad that Andy never got the help he needed after serving in some of the most horrific circumstances in American History. Its sad that this police officer had to die so young in such a horrific way. Ill never forget his death, or the reactions of his fellow officers in the dashcam after he was killed. Its truly a tragedy on every side and in every sense and I really appreciate that you gave it the respect it deserves. One of your best videos.
2 likesi just want to tell you this was an absolute masterpiece and brought tears to my eyes, bravo
8 likesRIP Officer Deborah. She was obviously motivated to do good in her community and had the strength to do it. Very sad indeed. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
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Yes 👍
16 likesIt’s odd when police say they’re your friends... they often arrest people over substance possession and instead of helping them they let them suffer.
82 likesShe was taken way too early, she never even had the opportunity to become someone's baby mama.
22 likes@Puppy Puppington I'm sorry to burst your bubble but their job is to enforce the law, not to give a therapy session. They don't make the law, they just enforce it.
201 likesI was just thinking that. You can tell how much she genuinely cares and how passionate she was about her work.
45 likes@Puppy Puppington As was already said, they're just enforing the law, don't blame them for arresting people over substance possession, blame the lawmakers for making it illegal in the first place in their failed war on drugs.
84 likes@Michael Dromes or blame the drug users for using illegal substances.
23 likes@Dehydrated Culture I tend to stick with science, virtually every study agrees that the war of drugs did way more damage than having everything legilized ever could. It's even more idiotic once you realize that some of those "illegal" substances you mention are very much legal in other countries and people perform just as well as they did before, the only difference is that it boosts economy.
59 likesLaura Elizabeth okay exactly so they’re not our friends. they don’t address or stop crime, they just react to it, enforce unjust laws and definitely do not serve the community
16 likes@Michael Dromes police choose what they enforce a lot of the time
13 likesMichael Dromes “just following orders”
5 likes@Puppy Puppington Police are your friends when you follow the Law. They arent social workers, the arent rehab workers, their job is to Enforce the Law, and if you break the law, rather you agree with it or not, its there job to arrest you and make sure you face the consequences of your actions. Im not sure why you think Law enforcement exist to help people get themselves out situations that they got themselves into.
7 likes@Gabriel Rosas yes, police officers have discretion. But would you rather them have to arrest tou for every offense that warrants it? Or would you rather give police officers who are sympathetic and who understand and know the people they deal with on the day to day some wiggle room? Better yet, how about just follow the law (which is by no means a difficult thing to do in the U.S.) and never have to be concerned with it to begin with.
1 like@Laura Elizabeth "They don't make the law, the just enforce it" Oh god, I wish you were kidding
17 likesI agree that Officer Deb seemed like a great woman, but trying to excuse the police from sending addicts into the prison-industrial complex by saying "they just be followin' orders" is asinine. It's the same argument Nazis used in the Nuremberg trials.
@Laura Elizabeth but they enforce the laws of a broken system
4 likesThat’s joe Biden to blame, he’s the one that created the bill that puts people in prison for petty drug crimes, the police are just a year in the system they cannot control that
2 likes@Michael Dromes you just want to smoke pot and on acid 24/7. It's okay to be honest. Y'all fighting for weed and all that shit by putting recreational use and scientific use on the same pool. I'd say yes to scientific use, but I'd give my honest double middle finger for recreational use.
4 likesWith war on drugs failed, what's next?
"well lets make slavery legal so there are no slavery report"?
"lets make customer service hotline scam a honest business"?
RapMoff ‘ Trumpie*
4 likes@Puppy Puppington unfortunately it's the systems fault. Its their job to arrest for possession and the system puts them through the process. Most do have to seek help to comply with their probation but 2 problems, the help the government provides isn't very good and most offenders could really care less and don't want the help so it does literally nothing for them and they become repeat offenders.
0 likesThere isn't one person here, from the ones talking about the LAW like it's the Bible, that could ever learn the whole legal code by heart, not one. It is impossible to obey something that is so complicated and convoluted.
1 likeOn top of that, police are giving reports to politicians and police unions (populated by cops) are lobbying for tougher laws on different trivial matters. Anslinger, the architect of the war on drugs worked for the police, so cut the crap. Cops are as much to blame for the war on drugs as politicians.
Nah
0 likes@Laura Elizabeth so they are indeed not your friends? and not to help? but she seemes like a really great officer and actually did seem to want to help that community.
0 likes@oneortwowilldo I was waiting for someone to compare it to the Nazis. You’re a bit over the top!
0 likes@Mallorie DiBi Am I wrong?
0 likes@oneortwowilldo IMO, yes, I think you’re wrong. The system is effed up however comparing it to the holocaust is outrageous
0 likes@Mallorie DiBi I'm not comparing the system to the Third Reich, I'm comparing the excuse which tries to strip officers of any responsibility for their actions to the flimsy arguments used in Nuremberg. Of course a cop isn't going to be able to selectively enforce the laws they like, but are still responsible for whatever they do as an officer. That's all I think I was trying to say here.
0 likes@oneortwowilldo I (now) understand what you were trying to convey. Thank you for explaining, I appreciate it!
0 likes@Whisp Of Words wrong
0 likes@Redd Alexander Official about?
0 likesAnd where the fuck is black lives matter for Deborah?
1 likeOne of the few times I'm glad a suspect suffered from police brutality.
1 like@Moridaaa If you voted for legalization of recreational weed over right to bear arms you don't deserve to vote.
0 likes@Mushroom Lad i'm againts both soo....
0 likesSeems like it's always the good cops that die, and the corrupt ones that get to the highest positions of power due to never taking real risks. Kinda depressing.
3 likes@Sardonicus Exactly! And they love using the death of officers of colour like her but when those ssme officers were alive they call them token and don't treat them with the same respect as white officers.
1 like@Netizen u can't even contain your racism when it concerns a woman who was killed doing her job, which was protecting her community? really? all that and you still can't see this lady as an actual person
7 likes@Netizen Did you get the attention you were begging for ? No? Damn.
2 likes@Rae Pan I got your attention which I appreciate very much.
0 likes@Alpha Rebel her death was in 2017 and plus BLM has always been more focused on the police brutality aspect rather than just black people getting killed
0 likesRest in peace bless her forever
0 likes@Netizen You’re not funny
1 like@Charlotte404 You got me all wrong. Of course I feel bad for her. The only thing that would annoy me is that I wouldn't be able to ride her while she's cooking for me.
0 likes@rosie xxo I'm sorry and I offer you my condolences.
0 likesI’m glad to be getting out of this place, damn I was just casually eating something while watching and I still shed a tear even though I read about it in the comments completely. Also, the poor guy didn’t wanna kill even if smh meant that he’ll be killed.
10 likesTo the day he died you couldn’t reach over my father while he was sleeping. if you have any older loved ones who have been in situations where they might suffer from PTSD, check on them. It comes back
48 likesIt was a horrific thing that man did, but it’s a special kind of messed up when the same government that sent him into hell on earth with little support after the war is the same government that put him to death.
9 likesThis is such a sad story! Good god that poor man! I teared up watching this. I can't imagine what war veterans go through on a daily basis.
2 likesI remember back in college, around 2011, we found out that a professor was a Vietnam vet, one day a student asked him about it (for some fucking reason he thought it was acceptable) and the professor got very quiet and sat down. He just stayed silent and looked like he wanted to cry. I've never felt so bad for someone as I did for him that day, it was the way his face turned to one of terror. Who knows what he saw.
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wata pucci dan bich for a grown man
1 likeD W What language was that?
61 likesLook up Phoenix program, it'll make sense.
4 likesUsed to be able to talk to my dad about Vietnam, he had no problem with it until about a decade ago. Lately I’ve had to tell people meeting my dad not to mention it because if you do he won’t be able to sleep at night. Somehow for forty years after he got back, he was able to just get over it. Then he got to his mid 60’s and everything changed.
79 likes@crowtservo Sorry to hear that dude. That sucks.
29 likes@crowtservo it sounds like he hadn't actually processed what really happened until then. It's easier to compartmentalize events, especially traumatic ones, than it is to process. I hope he's able to seek and accept help.
70 likesThere's nothing wrong with skiing that question. Especially if it was worded properly.
6 likesMrNewcaledonia Vietnamese
0 likes@Privacy Lover Because there was a big difference between world war 2 and Vietnam in one you were killing Nazi's a despicable group bent on ethnic cleansing and domination in the other you were just killing a bunch of folks in their own home for reasons that no one really understood. One came back a hero the other an outcast to their society
27 likesIt's not sad or wrong if someone asks about another's experience. It's sad a person is never given a platform or place to process their emotions over such trauma. You experience the worst of humanity and are never given support to process it. Additionally, men's emotions are often supressed by society/familial conditioning so it is exponentially worse when events are extremely traumatic like war. Vets need to be given adequate emotional/mental support for the rest of their lives as that trauma will be carried forever.
6 likes@the.hinderwomann. Yeah, I wonder if this around the time of retirement/kids leaving home. Sometimes people use work/family as an escape and too much free time can bring back ugly memories.
1 like@D W lol what are you saying
0 likesWe had a Vietnam vet in high school. He would dip in and out of memories and have PTSD episodes. One time he dove over a folding table and tipped it over using it as cover. Another time he grabbed a classmate by the shoulder and yelled BILLY, ARE YOU OK? Bizarre stuff while witnessing it.
2 likes@LosN209 that's kinda hilarious
2 likes@You don't see an old man havin' a Twix True. But as young teens we were all like UH wtf do we do? These were not short moments. Theyd last 10 mins which can feel like an eternity when you are in an awkward moment. Lol
1 likeDissociation, also known as the thousand yard stare. Happens after or during a flashback. Your brain basically goes into survival mode and your mind almost leaves your body and you’re trapped in another world.
1 likeBest way to snap people out of it is to use grounding techniques.
You can ask about the experience. Just don’t ask if he has any bodies
1 like@Petite Chaos Thanks. I hadn't heard of the term "grounding techniques."
0 likesI remembered when i was 12 years old and a vietnam vet asked me if i was a refugee from the Vietnam war, and i told him yes. He got excited and wanted to talk to me about it. For some reason during the small talk i asked him 'did you ever kill anyone in vietnam?". A whole soup of emotions came over his face, anger, dread, sadness, and frustration. He just stood there silent dissapointed in me, that i would ask such an ignorant question to a traumatized vietnam vet. I was 12 and stupid, i didnt realize what i had done. I feel so guilty for being so immature and stupid.
0 likesThat woman that witnessed the female officer killed was permanently damaged from what she saw. God bless her so much. You know she has PTSD from what she witnessed.
3 likesI watched this when it came out, and I always remembered it. I’m so glad to see JCS’ has so much success with his videos. I do wish this video held first place for the most views...
4 likesI've seen the video before this video and there was no doubt in my mind that he should have been put to death before this. His backstory does bring up explanations as to why he could have done what he did, but I still think the sentence was just. He was a danger to himself and others and at that point in his life, insane. Sure, they could have committed him but what good could it truly do. Sure video shows you something more emotionally, and in this case, there was no way someone could watch the video and let this guy off. It was that damning, cold blooded and unexplainable. We could have given him mental help, but death might have been more merciful in this case. He said it himself.
1 likeDamn. I have such a love for our service members. I feel sorry for him. I think when you experience something so traumatic, it's hard for your mind to ever leave that place. I've seen some raw unbridled violence. Granted it was probably a fraction of that seen in Vietnam. It'll take a toll on you. I'm just lucky my experience was probably like being in Disneyland compared to what most of our men in Nam had to deal with.
1 likePeople have been shot by cops for far less provocation than that... That officer really didn't want to shoot the guy, probably figured he was ill and needed help. It's such a shame when the compassionate ones are lost.
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Maybe if he were better trained to specifically handle people with mental illnesses he could have found a way to spare his life. I get why cops are trained to protect themselves, but I can't imagine screaming at the guy over and over again helped. And he obviously was trying to do the right thign and show restraint, I dont' mean it in any negative way at all towards him personally. It's just...I dont' know. There has to be a better way for us to handle these things as a society.
195 likesHe should have had more tools than a gun. I’m confused why he had his gun out at the beginning when he could have used those taser guns that shoot out to stop the threat and then handcuff him so that everyone is alive and safe but I’m not a cop so 🤷🏻♀️
64 likesAgreed. I'm guessing panic and not being sure on what to do, perhaps genuine concern for another human being. That job and its position of power attracts so many power hungry sociopaths, who join because they're looking to commit acts of violence and get away with it, it's sad that this guy of all cops had the luck to run into an armed mentally unstable individual.
49 likesA taser gun is very unreliable, specially at that range, the same goes for pepper spray. I really don't see what the cop could have done to spare his life. In cases like this its better to shoot as soon as the suspect reacts violently. Thousands of officers have lost their life out of hesitation.
91 likes@Matt Schemmer What can you do when you live in a society where guns are handed out to everyone and the state doesn't help anyone with mental illness at all.
64 likesAnother problem is that tasers weren't even introduced until about the mid 1990's so there's a good chance his department didn't even have tasers available yet
60 likes@flex seal Jesus. I didn't even think about that. Good point.
13 likesMatt Schemmer the guy literally gave the officer no chance he got out of the truck, didn’t comply with the officer pulled out the rifle and shot the officer multiple times before the officer had a chance to attempt anything.. plus the officer had just been reprimanded for excessive force prior to this and was possibly reluctant.
19 likes@Benjiha Yeah, here in Denmark all officers have guns, but over the last 10 or so years 11 people have been killed by police, and there was some news stations talking about it being alarmingly high, when compared to neighboring countries, where the average was like 5. Besides less guns per capita and gun types, i think a big part is that we have an independent investigation of every single discharge.
18 likes@Oliver Yeah i agree. Also 11 people in 10 years is also a very small percentage if you compare to other countries like the US.
7 likes@Carolina Dog the officer definitely could and should have acted differently. In the start of the interaction you can clearly see the man is not sane or acting rationally.. and the cop could have seem very fast that his shouting didn’t get any positive result. De-escalating would have been the way to go... calm voice, human communication... It might have been due to stress, but I’m guessing this used to be the normal course of action for US cops? The shouting thing..
21 likes@flowersandlemons It still is the norm, unfortunately. Cops here in the US approach every situation assuming the worst, moving straight past calm, civil discussion and right into shouting and intimidation.
15 likes@Katie S tasers were a lot less common in the 2000’s
1 like@Sgt Depression He could have got in his car and drove off quickly, then called for backup to get the man under control. Police need better deescalation methods. They could also make sure they always travel with a partner.
11 likes@Sgt Depression at that range? He was right in front of him
2 likes@Matt Schemmer Yeah, on the condition above what he supposed to do? I mean, theory is easier than practice. If you cant even theorize, dont bother with pratices.
6 likes@Obviously what
19 likes@Moridaaa I give you permission to read again.
0 likes@Obviously i have miopia but i read better than you. You made no sense, nor relevancy to the case at all.
20 likes@Obviously Vegans are still doing the "I'm vegan" thing for every non related topic? Sheesh. Why not stop eating altogether since crop farming also kills animals.
16 likes@Moridaaa clearly you don't
0 likes@Daemia did someone not like how lost all of your compassionate sides are lost. loool.
0 likesTry being humble. You might learn something...........
Cue angry response.......
He should have gotten his car on and floored it in reverse. A .30 carbine cant penetrate a engine block
1 likeAnd the compassionate ones that don't want to die are called criminals for self defense
2 likes@Obviously What a compassionate comment
8 likes@YellowBlackbird12 that's very good info, thank you for sharing.
3 likes@Kayla Marie believe it or not that distance is still pretty far for a taser.
5 likes@김우영 well it's kind of hard to see how close he got to the officer tbh
3 likes@Katie S watch people getting tased when they're on an adrenaline rush, especially someone who's either mentally unstable or large. Tasers do almost nothing sometimes and if the taser fails to subdue the individual, it pisses them off more which often leads to lethal force being used. Either way, the outcome remains the same apart from the small chance of the taser actually working. Your explanation only works in a perfect world, unfortunately. Situations like these are fluid and its easy to say he "could have, should have, would have" when its all in hindsight.
11 likes@Matt Schemmer I dont know he was dealing with a I'll soldier who wanted to die and he wasn't going to kill him, so I dont see away this could have been avoided other than wrestling him to the floor before the gun thing. This soldier was an ordinary soldier ether he was a damn good one who survived multiple battles even when his allies died, I dont see how that officer could live with out killing him first.
5 likes@calorieboots 20:47 onward in the video. The cop is calm and speaking assertively. Andrew is instantly triggered.
0 likes@Clodagh Tobin thank you
0 likes@YellowBlackbird12 thank you
0 likes@ShayDale I'm sorry, but if that's your idea of calm and assertive we will have to disagree. He begins shouting "Get back!!!" over and over and at increasing volume which, contrary to what police training would seem to be teaching, only serves to escalate the tension. Always. It is a fear response, which he (and other officers of the law) should have been trained to override, because increasing the volume of your commands NEVER improves a tense situation and goes against every existing tenet of de-escalation.
7 likes@Obviously you are the only one going after someone else here, everyone else is trying to see both sides of the story, and you just came and started accusing people you know NOTHING about, for a bunch of stuff. You’re the one who’s in the wrong here.
1 likeAim/shoot the leg would do less hurt for both sides.
2 likes@Lie*** Right! When I was a kid, I remember the cops that came and talked to us in school, always said they were trained to aim at the legs or shoulders, that’s apparently a lie because now the cops here says that never was a thing..it should be.
0 likesThe officer had recently been reprimanded for drawing his weapon unnecessarily, leading to speculation that this is why he was hesitant to shoot sooner.
2 likes@Katie S 1998, they weren’t as prevalent
1 like@Matt Schemmer huh? He killed the cop
2 likes@Katie S those cops are faced w the most evil if people your not thinking about that.
1 like@Sgt Depression right, they r not always dealing w little granny getting a ticket wtf is wrong w these people
3 likes@Benjiha thank fucking God we r hand d out guns jesus
0 likes@Matt Schemmer The way the police officer could have spared his life is by shooting first.
2 likesThe police officer died, Andy B. survived, so the only life that could have been spared is the police officer's because he didn't shoot first. But we all get what you mean.
Even if it was the other way around, though, how do you deal with someone that's suicidal? Suicidal to the point they'd openly provoke the police officer with a firefight and behavior like a drug-addict, and try to close the gap unarmed to someone who's clearly loaded? Bear in mind, of course, that we're looking at this with hindsight. With hindsight, we know that Andy B. has PTSD. In hindsight, we know that Andy B. is mentally ill. And of course, in hindsight, we know that he's a war veteran. Can't exactly get this info in the initial pullover scene where you literally first meet the guy.
I think at that point, the situation's not an "if" but a "when." You'd have to curb this off with some form of therapy for the PTSD before it can get this severe, and that's IF the dude wants help integrating into neurotypical society. If they're not present enough or cognitive enough to think "I want to change" and to really deal with their trauma, then therapy won't work.
@flowersandlemons Adrenaline does do that to people! The US tends to teach cops how to stay alive. But that doesn't necessarily mean every situation escalates to this degree. This was just a series of escalations.
4 likesThe cop gets Andy away from his car. Obviously doesn't want him pulling a weapon from the truck. He's clearly not acting sane or rationally. He then starts a conversation. "How are you doing, today?"
The cop doesn't want Andy to put his hands in his pockets. Y'know why, weapons again.
Andy starts to dance, dunno why, no one knows why, especially not the cop.
The cop calls a 10-78 (which is "Needs Assistance", thank you google).
Andy basically charges the cop and shouts. "Who are you calling motherfucker?"
This is when the cop starts saying, "Get back."
He's been a police officer for two years by this encounter (again, thank you google), so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first encounter where someone charges him due to mental instability.
There have been pushes for de-escalation training, but honestly, I can't tell you if this is in response to the public court or because this is the norm. Gotta keep in mind that observer bias and confirmation bias are a STRONG thing over here. Media makes bank off of escalation, it gets the most clicks on social media, so obviously that gets pushed out to people, and people mainly see escalations (especially since it's so blatantly laid out as the culprit by news) and take it as something to bring to the next two-party ragefest (no other party counts, we can only count to two here in the US).
The only thing we Americans can agree on is that we hate America.
That's why many policemen shoot first and ask later. They are afraid to die as well.
2 likesSounds stupid but i think cop training needs to put a Focus on retreat and regroup
0 likesi think its hard to say why he didnt shoot and defuse the danger first but it had to do with the fact he was either mentally il and didnt want to kill a mentally il person or maybe his race played into a part in why he wasnt emediatly shot? if he was hispanic or black or any other race would the cop have bin so patient to shoot and defuse the threat ?maybe, maybe not? andrew did say he was a war veteran so maybe the cop believed him? those are the reasons why i think the cop really didnt shoot earlier. if it was just a regular person i think they would have died getting out of their car 😐
0 likes@Ehfoiwehfow Jedioheoih I’m pretty sure he was a lunatic before that moment he was confronted by the policeman. I don’t require that policemen die for the public, they should keep things under control in a way that also keeps themselves safe. He wouldn’t need to go far but just back off until you can get help.
0 likes@Matt Schemmer he didn’t shoot because he had, had multiple department violations. He was afraid of getting fired. They still show the Dinkheller murder at the majority of police academies.
2 likesI couldn’t agree with your sentiment more Daemia, a good man was lost here. A rare breed.
0 likes@Matt Schemmer I was kinda thinking that myself, yes he didn't know his backstory, but shouting orders and screaming at him, likely while pointing his gun at him based on footage I've seen from other dashcams is the absolute worst way to handle somebody like that and was always going to end in a fire-fight. The second he saw him dancing about like that he should have had an idea something was up, be it drugs or mental illness and tried to calm the situation down, but sadly they likely never trained him for that, only to scream at people and if they don't listen shoot them.
2 likes@Isam El-hussein The cop was patient? Like when should he have shot? When the dude was dancing on the street?
0 likes@I. C. Wiener well i do know he didnt try and properly descalate the situation buy putting his gun away and trying to calm the guy down. when someone is acting deranged and aggressive towards you but you dont know if their armed maybe he should of atleast try and warn the person to relax and listen to the him, in a non threatning way, if the guy is still aggressive /deranged he should have tried to tase him when he charged at him if that didnt work maybe try and arrest him with force at any momment he wasnt armed to avoid getting in a life threatning situation. if that doesnt work pull out your gun and warn him youl shoot if he doesnt respond to you and hes still acting aggressive and you see hes about to pull out a weapon to try and kill you well the cop has no other option but to shoot clealy that war veterran was acting all insane the whole time and this cop didnt respond accordingly to any off the things i mentioned . other cops would have handled it better or maybe would have just shot him the first time he charged witch would have saved his life either way. he just let him do what ever he wanted multiple times without consequences and when the veteran flashed his gun the cop just waited until he got the chance to reach for his weapon and that resulted in the both of them getting into a shoot out and the cop loosing his life.
1 like@Monique L LOL. Yea... Let's leave a criminally dangerous suspect alone as a public safety hazard, and then just drive away from the scene. Your kidding, right? You guys need to go do some ride alongs or a citizens police academy or something so you can get a reality check.
1 like@Hook He was alone before that policeman encountered him. And yes if you can’t contain a situation don’t put yourself in danger. Chances are if he backed off the situation wouldn’t have escalated and he’d be alive. Wait until you have back up to gain better control.
1 like@Monique L You obviously haven't worked one day in law enforcement, let me impart years of experience to you (and make sure you understand we are talking about the Vietnam vet here) once your find out someone is suicidal, dangerous and especially armed, you as a Cop have NO choice but to keep engaged with that person to prevent loss of public life. Imagine your mom or grandma or someone you care about gets murdered by this guy moments after he is allowed to go free, and you find out a Cop was in contact with him moments prior and just let him go. Cops have to handle mental health subjects that literally no one else can or will handle, yet we are constantly blamed for anything and everything that goes sideways when you are dealing with someone who is dangerously insane. Rediculous.
4 likes@Frithnanth Caleb your right, it does sound stupid... Because it is. Imagine "retreat and regroup" with an active shooter, or maybe a hostage situation, or a domestic violence suspect who nearly killed his spouse and is still inside the house with her, or a drunk driver blasting down the freeway at a BAC of .25 or a suicidal person about to jump off an overpass to a bust highway. Yea... Retreat and regroup alright...
1 like@Hook I have never worked in law enforcement. I have however dealt with people with mental illness and worked with children. I wasn’t suggest he leave completely. I suggested he back off. There are ways of dealing with volatile people/children. What you don’t do is back them into a corner. As a member of the public I don’t expect the police to be martyrs. I definitely feel that someone with more experience with people with mental health issues could have handled it better. The police are not equipped. This isn’t a war where you are fighting an enemy, you are dealing with everyday people, many who have varying issues.
3 likes@Monique L your telling a guy who deals with mentally challenged guys every single shift that we are "not equipped" and can do our job better. Nice to hear you deal with mental subjects and children(?) regularly, I promise you I will deal with more of both on a Tuesday night that you will in a month. Cops have thousands of interactions with mental subjects every single day that are resolved peacefully. Interactions they are called to because some citizen, who was scared to confront that mental subject themselves, called for help to resolve it. We get called by social workers, mental hospitals, crisis workers and live in care professions ALL THE TIME to resolve mental health issues THEY COULDNT RESOVLE, and do so in the vast majority of situations, yet you are suggesting the cop in this situation was somehow responsible for the criminal actions of another (mental health subject or not). I'm also a soldier who has dealt with combat related PTSD, and it was on me as the veteran to recognize my issues and seek out the resolution. Have you even watched the dash cam of the incident? The cop backed off to his car and all but begged him to drop the gun. He actually should have shot him much sooner, as I would have, and he would have gone home to his family. Educate before you pass judgement please.
1 like@Hook Yes I think that policemen are not equipped to deal with mental health issues in a lot of cases. I’d be very fearful to call the police to deal with such things and feel more comfortable calling an ambulance. I’m from the U.K. by the way where any type of weapon is illegal and so the potential for a situation to end so violently is very rare. People are not armed and therefore the police are not armed. The US could take note and look to other Western countries. I was not blaming the police officer for his demise, I feel like I am showing more compassion. I don’t expect policemen to be martyrs. They have a job to do but they are people who can be just flawed and emotional etc. What happened here is a problem for you, so I am discussing potential ways something like this could be prevented. If you think everything that was done is correct then expect more police officers to die and more people with mental health problems to be thrust into the criminal system.
2 likes@Hook The US is a western country with the level of violence as many poor countries. The level of police killings is on par with many South American countries. I think less death is a good thing.
2 likes@Monique L Less violence is always good, but the USA has lots of drug abuse and that goes hand in hand with mental health and violence. No judgement against you as a person, however people who don't understand the reality of day to day policing in the US but are quick to pass judgement on the actions of officers frustrate me to an extent.
1 like@Hook I think the US has the wealth and resources to bring violence down to the level of other equally wealthy countries. There is no excuse to have the same amount of police killings (percentage wise)as Nigeria or Venezuela for example where there are high levels of poverty and corruption.
0 likes@Monique L actually, the USA only averages about 31 people killed by the police per year, your country has about one death per year (allegedly... Some of the UKs reported methods are questionable in the LE community), but also has a far smaller population and far less issues with cartel related drugs and violence. 31 per year is pretty damn good all things considered, and we are FAR from the country with the most police violence. The US police are some of the best in the world, and you have more freedom and more rights in tbe USA than nearly any other country. The USA also has to contend with especially violent gang culture, cartel influence, and mental health epidemics related to drugs to mention a few things that aren't a factor in the UK. You can, however, be arrested and thrown in jail for life for trying to protect yourself in the UK, so I'll happily stay in the USA.
1 like@Hook I feel like the police could improve everywhere. I’m not singling out the US. According to stats on Wikipedia, there were well over a 1000 people killed by police in the US and percentage wise it is on par with a lot of poverty stricken countries. Europe and some East Asian countries have far lower police killings and feel like the few is too much. You can look the stats on wiki and they go by percentage. So it’s taken into account population size. This video I watched just happened to be in the US. Although this is not a police killing but you are suggesting the police should have shot him first, which could have resulted in another police killing. I don’t feel this level of violence is justified in a wealthy country that has stability, wealth and resources to try and improve.
2 likes@Hook did i say you should apply it to every Situation ? no but you seem to be the expert sorry for intercepting
0 likesHe should have hid behind his cad and called for back up
0 likesThank you veterans for your sacrifices
0 likes@Katie S tazers don't always work
0 likesTo enter my own into the sea of words...
0 likesCompassion has its place as all things do. Compassion is offtimes missplaced, as all things are.
It’s as if Andy knew the switch was going to flip sooner or later as he got the gun pointed at him, like he wanted the cop to shoot him before he couldn’t stop himself from retaliating.
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Its widely understood that is likely what he was doing.
1 likeIt's scary how ...his Vietnam kicked in.... he might have taken out a bunch of cops if they had been around. It is no joke....to notice a reload happening and charge directly at the other person shooting at you
0 likesI remember when I saw the dashcam footage from Officer Dinkheller’s car for the first time. My blood doesn’t run cold often from watching something third-hand on tape, but 9/11 (specifically the jumpers), the beheading of Nick Berg, and that dashcam video are at the top of the list of the most disturbing shit I’ve ever seen.
6 likeswhat an incredible, enlightening, well-produced, educational video. thank you for sharing.
3 likesThis is some Pulitzer level content here. Eye opening to say the least. I have to believe somewhere in the universe there is a balancing of scales occurring and that he has found peace.
28 likesWow. This was really sad. I studied the 1960s for a semester in college and learned about how terribly vets from Vietnam were treated and about the war in general. It’s genuinely awful and shocking to learn about.
1 likeThis is quite possibly my favorite youtube video of all time. I hope within my lifetime we can learn to treat our vets better.
2 likesVery good story-telling. Compare a broken man, to a cold blooded killer, broken man gets Death sentence, cold blooded killer gets 2 hots and a cot for the rest of his useless life.
2 likesMy father has PTSD from 'Nam. He spent two and a half years there. Flew home on his 21st birthday. He has weird behaviors, for sure. I'm glad PTSD treatments and understanding, are improving.
I watched the video of the shooting but never knew the context. Such a tragic story for all involved.
1 likePTSD with our veterans is terribly mishandled.
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PTSD as a whole is terribly mishandled.
71 likesMy papa is a veteran and a pirple heart and he still suffers from ptsd like I do but his is more worse... but throughout the years he still managed. He would think about killing him self which i also glad he didn't, ever since I was born my papa wants to stay alive and now he's happy and im happy about it💕
12 likes@Luigi Cadorna He not only had PTSD but had 2 brothers that died within months of each other.Not an excuse, but definitely a reason.
69 likesThis is true for veterans in Australia also. Another injustice is the way veterans affairs ignores the effect of toxic chemical exposure on military and their families. Their motto "Delay, Deny until they die"
24 likesI would say not handled at all.
7 likesThis is true, but they shouldn't get a pass to kill whoever they want either.
7 likes@The Jellyfish Jam and that's why 'they' don't.
3 likesThat's all I see with this video. Trauma can cause all sorts of things to happen. Mental health as a whole in this country isn't recognized.
13 likes@Luigi Cadorna ahhhh...I can see your a scholar on this subject and have first hand knowledge from relatives and friends who back this up...
15 likesWell done, you are the toughest in the village 🏅
Maybe stop invading random countries, won't have that issue.
5 likesKiyoko My mother, aunt, and grandmother have all passed away within the last 16 months and I haven’t murdered anyone either.
2 likes@Luigi Cadorna My goodness! What war were you fighting with your Mother, Aunt, and Grandmother? 🤔That must have been horrible, glad you're okay... but just because some people don't suffer from it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If everyone gauged the health of the masses by comparison to themselves then by that rationale, I don't understand why some need glasses as they age or insulin for blood sugar levels, jump at loud sounds or are frightened of dogs once bitten.
23 likesI'm sorry for your loss, truly, but dude, you seem angry at sick people or people who empathize and I think you deserve love and should open yourself to it.
Take care🖖🏼
Dude your veterans in general are terribly mishandled. Showing love and fighting for your country just to get home to wash some windshields smh..
6 likesyes we need to cuddle and give money to these serial killers of men, women and children!!
1 likeNah how about help them move forward in their lifes after being in a war for your country
3 likesAll PTSD is.
1 like@EmperorJuliusCaesar Although it shouldn't be, it's naive to think we will go through life without pain. Pain is inevitable in any society.
0 likesMental issues are often times neglected!
2 likesLuigi Cadorna I am taking psychology, and from my understanding, and to keep it simple, being exposed to such traumatic events, and the unnatural sight of seeing a body dismembered in-front of you, changes the chemistry going on in your brain. I know it’s incomprehensible from just thinking about it, but you absolutely have NO control over these chemicals our brain produces. What can help these veterans and others with PTSD “control” negative thoughts/actions , is admitting and accepting they have something wrong going on, at no fault if their own, and therefore need help. The next step is to follow the therapists advise and take medications. Again, our emotions and actions are caused by CHEMICALS in our brain, that is why medicine is able to help, they administer you with the happy chemicals, and that stops your brain from producing so much of the bad chemicals. Psychology is extremely complicated.. were are still not 100% sure how the brain functions.. But we are surely getting there. I’m just glad there is SOME knowledge on how to reverse/control the effects of PTSD, but unfortunately we are not at the point where we can take a pill and be done with it forever. These veterans and anybody that has been exposed to traumatizing sights, will have to continue suffering until we can find a way to change the chemistry in our brain that causes PTSD. It’s just heart breaking.. Respect for all those who have voluntarily put their lives on the line. Respect.
15 likesEmperorJuliusCaesar
1 likePain and sorrow ARE inevitable parts of life. No amount of advancement can stop that. The illusion that this is possible will fall apart.
Manchester Is Blue
2 likes😂 Weakness makes itself known!
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
BH: No, it's handled pretty well. But they have to 1. Ask for help 2. Follow the prescribed treatment including A. Taking the meds, B. Participate in therapy, C. Not abuse alcohol and street drugs. Finally, there is nothing magical about PTSD treatment at the VA. There are tens of thousands of Psychiatrists, PhD Psychologists who treat it as well.
1 likevery
0 likesPTSD period. That level of trauma to the subjective minds interpretation shows zero mercy in the way of symptoms, a battle in & of itself on all fronts, regardless of the root itself; the depth still leverages its control. But thats just from my experience.
1 like@lulu you want to google the audio of Andy B killing Deputy Kyle? You wanna hear the harrowing screams from Kyle as Andy B murdered him?
1 like@Maciu Hawkins oh yeah that's gruesome right? It never ceases to amaze me how vile people can be. It's absolutely stupefying how there seems to be no limit to the evil that people will inflict on each other I hope and pray that the stigma around mental illness and PTSD will get better, then, maybe those poor souls would be alive today. We live in a toxic angry culture and we need to be preventative instead of only punitive, lives would be spared if the PTSD was treated, the vicious acts may not have happened. Anger breeds hate and we need to support our Veterans who put their lives on the line for all of us to only come home and get no support especially for their mental health and it's not fair or right. It needs to be taken seriously and not made fun of. If we want to prevent these depraved acts from happening, we have to take mental health seriously.
3 likesMy dad is prime example of the after decades they just have him 100%!🤯🤯😓
0 likesKarma
0 likesFor USA the average suicide rate is 20 veterans per day take their life. In Australia the rate is also much higher than the public rate. Transition to civilian life, ptsd, toxic chemical exposure... obviously not being handled well by DOD & DVA. Its the government that put these men and women into these circumstances but when it comes to taking responsibility for their recovery, they often hide or turn their backs. I fought for 20 years just to get some minimal support for my service related injuries.
4 likes@Luigi Cadorna plenty of soldiers come home fine and plenty of soldiers come home broken and turn homeless. But there are apperly also plenty of people who like to troll everyone and there is no excuse for that ether
3 likesYeah I mean, they break the boys down til they're a blank slate and turn them into brutal killers, make them commit horrific acts, and then rotate them back into the world and basically just cut them loose. The massively high rate of PTSD, opiate addiction, it's horrifying.
2 likesFor all the jingoistic slogans of support the troops and for how massive our military is we totally let them down and don't give two shits about them. The VA barely gets funded and they don't get the support they deserve
Whether we support the shady reasons for our wars or whatever the political beliefs these guys don't deserve the treatment and they don't make any of the decisions
Sure some are hardwired for combat and have that personality that meshes with it but most are just left high and dry
The issues lies in sending young men to pointless wars
2 likes@Luigi Cadorna Agreed. One of the biggest problems with PTSD is that people thinks it causes murderous actions. That's not anywhere close who what real PTSD manifests as.
3 likesSame with our British troops..alot of them sadly end up homeless and on the street after service is over
1 likeDave Smith Thank you. People are interpreting me as implying PTSD is not real or something. No, what I’m saying is that PTSD alone is not an adequate explanation for someone to suddenly become a murderer after they are discharged.
2 likesLuigi Cadorna Uh did you not watch the video? He states that many soldiers have come home from war with PTSD and have done similar things but were not charged because of there mental state.
3 likes@hydro Many people also come back from college and are accused of murders and are not charged, in fact that can be applied to any group of people in the world, since murder is one of the most difficult crimes to prosecute for. Again, there is this tendency to try and label veterans as murderers despite a very low instance of it.
2 likescPTSD does not give you inclinations towards murder. Any vet who has cPTSD can tell you that. If you have murderous tendencies, that's part of your own nature.
@Luigi Cadorna you're assuming all soldiers react the same. You're also assuming you know what was going on in this guy's mind. Not to mention you don't have PTSD
3 likes@Ben Weis Not to mention not everyone sees combat. A lot of service men and women don't see anywhere near the action that poor guy did. There is a reason that he earned two bronze stars and had multiple veterans testifying on his behalf. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he had serious issues because of the intense combat he took part in during his tours in Vietnam.
1 likeIs is so easy for "keyboard warriors" to simply dismiss the effects of combat-related PTSD. Most of these morons would crap themselves and curl up in the fetal position if they had to endure even a little of what that man went through. It is sad that this man could not find a life for himself in peace. We may pity him, but we sure as hell should not dismiss him.
@Dave SmithI think the obvious has to be restated because it seems you're missing something and dropped the plot. The beginning of the thread says," PTSD with our veterans is terribly mishandled", that's it...that is the point of topic. Mr. Luigi responded with a,"Nah, Fu*k that!" Nowhere has anybody said PTSD creates killers and that it's okay to, or get out of punishment because you suffer from it.
3 likesBut...It gets to be put into the equation of the discussion without people shouting "Fu*k that!", it's counterproductive grandstanding for no intelligent outcome. You both sound like petulant children yelling" Everyone has to shut up because I don't understand and I don't care!" to adults discussing a puzzle piece of an undeniable fact of life people question... why do good people die? You're arguing something nobody else is, seemingly on the indignation of the topic of PTSD being brought up and put into the equation. This in NO WAY means amnesty for this person. Nobody has stated that. Why are you so insulted and confused at people trying to have a discussion or share personal experiences to better understand or recognize symptoms? Why it happened? How could this be prevented? Nobody in this thread has stated that it's okay to murder if you suffer from it, just that it should be treated.
So keep patting each other on the back for yelling into the ether of a non-argument Sir
@lulu The thing is next to no one here has it right about cPTSD. cPTSD does not make you violently out of control, it doesn't make you randomly kill people around you. That's hollywood interpretation, that isn't reality. cPTSD occurs as a consequence of training, you are trained in the military for heightened situational awareness so more things alert you than the average civilian. This is necessary survival instinct in a combat theater, but prone to false alarm in a first world country.
2 likesYes PTSD is mishandled, and this comment section is ironically evidence of that.
@Dave Smith again...no one said that it did (make one violently murderous and randomly kill)
2 likes@lulu I know no one said that. That's exactly why everyone here except Luigi don't understand the real issue.
2 likes@Dave Smith 😂woosh🤣
2 likesOk sweetie, you keep disagreeing with something never stated. To each their own I suppose. ✌🏼
@lulu I think you are confused.
0 likes@Luigi Cadorna "Nah, fuck that. Plenty of soldiers come home and don’t murder people. I know Vietnam was awful but it’s not an excuse." Peoples brains don't all work the same exact way and have the same exact chemical balance. Combat soldiers experiences aren't all equal. Dismissing combat as not having an impact on someone's behavior just because "others don't" is simply ludicrous. You are assuming everything is equal and insinuating these people would have committed murders regardless of their wartime experience. The problem is, you are failing to realize that who you are and your personality is the product of your life experiences combined with your biology. Not everyone has the same experiences leading up to a war, not everybody has the same experience in war, not everybody has the same biology.
2 likesEspecially as time has gone on, in WW2 the average American combat soldier that enlisted in 1941 spent 40 days in combat in FOUR YEARS. The average Vietnam combat soldier spent 240 days in combat in ONE year.
Finally, no one is making an "excuse". The point is to recognize the problem and address it BEFORE a mentally broken person does the unthinkable.
@lulu ".I can see your a scholar on this subject and have first hand knowledge from relatives and friends who back this up..." It's typical, people can't fathom what they have never personally experienced, its easier to just believe it doesn't exist, especially when maybe even "most people" aren't impacted, to the extent of becoming a murderer. Compare it to addiction. You can never truly comprehend physical addiction until you have been addicted to something yourself.
1 like@Luigi Cadorna it’s not an excuse but some ppl are so detached at that point seeing death everyday and on the brink of death at any moment sticks especially if your there for multiple years , even worse for the ppl that can’t go home because where they live is being invaded and destroyed by invaders
1 like@Tim Your words are clear and concise and I VERY much appreciate reading 🖖🏼
1 like(rational thinking seems to be scarce)
@Luigi Cadorna I deleted a mean-spirited comment I made 50ish minutes ago to you Mr.Luigi that I regret. I truly hope for open conversations but my emotions got the better of me. Everyone gets to be included in a discussion Lu, I just completely disagree with your stated words ( not an interpretation of them) and am trying to not be injected into that problem with ignorance or apathy.
0 likesI regret that it's easier to point out evil then look away in disgust than it is to look straight at it, to try understand and hopefully prevent evil to have a hold on our society. I don't want a feeling of ganging up on an opinion but I think you may be interpreting others and not noticing that you seem to want to be understood through interpretation of your words.
Yours in honest conversation,
Lu
Saying mishandled gives the impression that the government gives a shit to start with :(
1 likeThe thing that annoys me is that it seems like he was expected to go back to work and just pick up life all over again afterwards as if nothing was wrong. I realize that he might have wanted it that way to maintain some sense of normalcy but at the same time, it just seems plain cruel to ask a guy to pretend like his life could ever be normal again after he's been through that sort of thing.
2 likesAll veterans in any country.
2 likesNot just in the us.
@Luigi Cadorna that's a dumb comment as not everyone has the same threshold.
0 likes@Luigi Cadorna blame the system that allows for people to be put in such horrible circumstances and fight these dumb wars instead
0 likes@lulu lol As if war justifies killing people at home...what a trash argument...but i guess the ptsd Andy had couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
0 likesWe sent our best to Vietnam, and when they came back broken, we often treated them in the worst way we could. Andrew wasnt a bad man. He was a brave man whose courage was gambled with by a government whose leaders never left their homes, and he came back broken. God bless Andrew. May he be saved.
3 likesAnd let's recognize that cop. He clearly didnt want to bring any harm upon this man. Such a horrendous tragedy and a reminder of how blessed we are to be safe in our homes today.
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i remember that many times people say freedom isn't free, but with things like these, it seems like we expect those we employ to 'keep' freedom end up having to pay for it too.
0 likesI watched the dash cam showing Andrew murdering Kyle and the screams made me tear up and gave me the chills it was horrible
24 likesThis story hit on so many levels! I can't help but feel sorry for everyone involved.
0 likesI think this video by far is the most meaningful job from JCS however it has received the least amount of attention. Probably the most painful to watch.
9 likesAndy B wasn't executed. Andy died way back in Vietnam.
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Wow.. perhaps, you’re right.
211 likesHeartbreaking
137 likesGood words
51 likes@Jam u just copying and paste right seen this shit on another comment we all feel some type of way but all me can do is wait
14 likessame vibe as "reznov died in vorkuta"
35 likes@Hamza Khan THE NUMBERS MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!
31 likesFully. A tragic story
13 likesthis made me cry :(
5 likesWell his last words show that he still was somewhat with us, but I would say he killed the officer out of instinct and that he wasnt himself
24 likesDamn. Well said.
1 likeThis is so tragic. I can only imagine what Andrew went through. RIP
5 likesSo true... Andy B never knew what he was up against.
5 likes@Oritsu if only he had a snickers....
2 likesOur country failed him
6 likesHard disagree, he had severe ptsd, with treatment or even a government who have a shit Andy B would be alive today
4 likes@MinecraftGuy64 I actually agree with you. But treatment only goes as far as his willingness to participate. It also depends on the quality of help he receives. I have a client who served in Vietnam, (who's also been declared 100% disabled) and anytime he's sought help they just put him on more meds. He's quit taking them altogether, As the meds he was on made him angrier. But also not having complete shit for a government would certainly help
9 likesFar too many died physically and mentally for a stupid war we should never have been in. Good thing we learned our lesson. Oh wait...
18 likesRealist shit I ever read
3 likesI just got this.. Damn:/
3 likesNo one comes out of war alive. You could still be breathing, but not living.
1 likeMurdered by the US government
5 likes@Ricky Soto He didn't mean it literally
4 likes@Oritsu To go further into this. Do you think him being in the woods prior to being pulled over had something to do with it?
3 likesWow... true on a deep level
1 like@Ricky Soto Lol dude... he meant Andy B was the "kid" who went to war... but that Andy was left behind... the Andy that came back was a different person, due to the horrors he witnessed and participated in...
4 likes@Hamza Khan I’m tearing up
3 likesVery poignant. He’s still in Saigon to this day.
1 likePowerful
1 like@Dolphinos Yea history is starting to repeat -_-
0 likes@The Geek Within I know what he meant. I don’t agree. He was responsible for his life and those he took.🤷🏾♂️
1 likeIn the bleak midwinter
1 likeYou're right he left everything on the battlefield and came back a shell of himself. In his mind the war wasn't over. And being threatened by a man in uniform instantly brought him back to combat mode.
3 likes@Henry Clamore Bruh, I don't even like cops, but let's not applaud the murder of someone who was clearly not trying to murder Andy B.
4 likesNeither of them deserved to die in that encounter.
@Guy Yes, that's exactly what they said. Good job.
1 likebeautifully tragic. true and real.
1 liker/im14andthisisdeep
1 like@Levi You literally have a profile fashioned after a Fortnite meme...
1 likeWow…
0 likes@John Bowling "what the f@$# is wrong with you, Mason?" - Swift
0 likesThis comment is profound.
0 likesThis could be the saddest video ever. A Hero lost. I’ll only watch this once it’s way too sad. It’s also eye opening. This video needs more views. Tragedy in every sense of the word.
8 likesWe watch the video of Kyle Dinkheller’s murder in academy and use it for training. The deputy had multiple opportunities to use justified force to end the situation, first regular force and then deadly force, but failed to do so. It is the example case for why cops should know when it is legal to use force and then use that force immediately because trying to be patient can get you killed. It is also an example of why “suicide by cop” continues to be a thing. We have to kill people like this because even though what Andrew really wanted was for Kyle Dinkheller to kill him and end his suffering, when the deputy didn’t he killed him. The line between suicidal and homicidal is razor thin, you can’t hesitate.
2 likesJust a brilliant, tragic, and compelling piece of short film making.
3 likesAnd having seen the full video, I appreciate that JCS did not feel the need to include the audio of Officer Dinkheller pleading for Brannon not to shoot him anymore and his chilling scream before the final shot at close range.
Thank you.
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I...am also glad for that. I've seen and heard all of the worst shit the internet has to offer....but... those sounds have destroyed a part of me. I always think "Jesus... he can keep going after hearing that?" About Brannan... but then I realize that he lives in a world where ... it is nothing but killing... that poor fucking kid... ... even Andrew knew it was horrible. ... he flat out did not want to do that. He would have protected that kid under different circumstances. ... it's one of the saddest things ever. There are countless saddest things ever...
0 likesI feel so bad for that eyewitness. Just imagining remembering something that horrific in that much detail.
3 likesThat woman in the second case was an ideal witness for sure. She did a good job describing what happened with the police woman.
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she has great memory retention, like i understand that it was a traumatic event but she described it almost like an author would in a book, detailed and almost poetic. and the fact that she was staring ahead for most of the time while doing it. one can only imagine the amount of times she was up at night thinking about it.
197 likesI hope that witness is doing OK.
112 likes@CrazyMiles If Jesus died, got resurrected and went to heaven and became the ruler of the universe, he didn't really sacrifice anything. A sacrifice only means something if you actually give something up that is of value. Jesus on the other hand didn't seem to have sacrificed anything : He gained immortality, went to ever-happy paradise and can come back at any point he choses. Not much of a sacrifice in my opinion... 2. If Jesus died for our sins, then our sins are already forgiven. Also, if God is all-forgiving and all-loving, then he'll forgive even if we don't beg for it. No need to repent, no need to worship, everyone will go to heaven regardless of their beliefs or behavior. Yay, logic!
98 likesShe had incredible recollection and it was extremely clean and concise. I can’t believe how calm and observant she was, what a badass.
34 likesPoor girl needs chapstick too not trying to be insensitive chapped lips suck though it's the last thing she needs on her plate
14 likes@Stefan Hohnwald Amen 😂
10 likes@Stefan Hohnwald I like your mind:)
12 likes@Stefan Hohnwald you put my thoughts on this in coherent words that make sense thank you :)
10 likes@Stefan Hohnwald We are saved by grace and not by works of which any man boast, for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life.
0 likes@CrazyMiles Very relevant comment, but since you brought this up: there is no god, you can be free of these children tales and stop believing in magic now. There is magical man in the sky saving you from your dirty thoughts and lust. Enjoy your life, be good to other, there is much more to be in awe of than these made-up stories from bronze age farmers.
4 likes@CrazyMiles Nice of you to literally put "Crazy" in your name so none of the rest of us have to bother
3 likes@JOSEPH JOESTAR Ok teeny boy I enjoy a good paradox when I see one, and the "biggoted sheep calling other people slaves" is honestly one of my favorite. If you're not trolling, I'm sure a quick glance in the miror will help you put things in the right place, until then keep your leash in your jaw and wait for your master to pick you up
2 likes@Fulguro Baboon I'm a sheep of the good shepherd, a slave of the good master. I'm not the Saviour, but I am God's son. I'm living forever, don't know what's gonna happen to you tho, I suppose that choice is yours
0 likes@JOSEPH JOESTAR cap
0 likes@JOSEPH JOESTAR cringe, knock it off.
3 likesThat police woman reminds me of my mother who was a policewoman, shit makes me so mad. Those officers weren't bullshitting when they were saying she is an angel, that's how women like that are. They are beyond selfless.
0 likes@Sasha Silva Probably not the first time she saw someone die.
1 like@Stefan Hohnwald So being being crucified and tortured for days on end isn't considered a sacrifice?
0 likesI’m never going to forget this. My father in law is a Vietnam vet. The last, ongoing, generational damage to so many is too great for me to even comprehend.
0 likesI can't imagine how an entire jury unanimously agreed on the death penalty in this case. He must not have even tried for an appeal or clemency in this case, because I can't imagine that with more understanding around PTSD that it wouldn't have been overturned. So sad all around.
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Different time back than
0 likesIf anybody is trying to figure out what had to be removed or why everybody's talking about someone no longer mentioned in the video, it looks like JCS had to alter a segment around 8:55. that discussed the case of Markeith Loyd:
26 likes- He is a man who, while fleeing, killed Debra Clayton, a police officer
- During his arrest, he was permanently blinded in one eye due to multiple kicks. Graphic footage of the arrest gained national attention but did not have significant impact on the trial
- However, the defence used the police treatment during his interrogation (where police appeared to instead ridicule/discomfort Loyd as much as possible instead of building a case, which JCS argues was guided by emotion instead of training) to great effect when addressing the jury
- The sentence to Loyd was life in prison (instead of death), which JCS claims was a surprise to the general public but not as much to those who followed the case closely as the treatment by police was repeatedly focused on by the defence. JCS uses this to argue that the presence of video (instead of hearing the conduct verbally) may have altered the penalty and created resonating footage
- This was then the segue into the police footage and how it was used
It accounts for the ~10 minutes missing from this version. I can certainly see why it was inserted - it creates the right context for the following analysis. Unfortunate that it needed to be removed (for whatever reason was given by YouTube)
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Hello, do you think the missing content is somehow/somewhere still accessible?
0 likes@Dalibor Měchura - One of the other comments note that it's currently listed by someone who appears to have uploaded the original version ("JCS The Case of Andy B. Reupload")
1 likethe original is like 1 hour long. i saw it on their patron a while back
0 likes@qnx - Interesting - thanks for the info! Were there any additional details that didn't make the public video?
0 likesRest in peace to both the cop and Andrew. This was an all around unfortunate situation.
0 likesOur vets really do deserve better. If he was 66 when he died in 2015, He would've been 19 when he was sent to Vietnam. He was a child when he served, and wanted to die ever since he came back.
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You've got to argue "he" never came back man.
135 likes19 years old isn't a child. It's young, but not a child.
66 likesminds me of the song 19... tragic
6 likes@McSnezzly By that logic people shouldn't be allowed to have financial independence or any of the rest of it 'til they hit 25 or so. People's brains don't finish developing until they're nearly a third of the way into their (realistically speaking) lifespan.
24 likes@Xinoaphobia brain isn't even developed yet. 1 year past adult. He's a child
18 likes@Patrick Harrington As people mature they become capable of taking on more responsibility. Saying that a 19 year old is still one foot in the door of childhood and hence is particularly likely to be traumatised by combat experience (something which even adults have extreme difficulty with), is nowhere near implying that financial independence would be beyond them.
100 likes@Xifong Christian So do we give financial independence to people under 18 in the US?
3 likes@Xifong Christian ...no it isn't a burden. Plenty of adults don't have financial freedom because someone else pays for all their stuff. But LEGALLY they are financially independent because they have reached the age of being an adult. We don't give children that ability. Not sure in what universe you'd call a 19 year old a kid that is unable to make their own decisions. Unless due to some condition that makes them have the capacity of a child.
0 likes@Xifong Christian your point of adult makes it so arbitrary. There 50 year olds that aren't disabled that aren't independent. It's a dumb stance to take with this lol
1 like@Patrick Harrington being financially independent and going into combat are two completely different things…
19 likesAs long as they can trick kids into signing up the way it is, there wont be any improvement there's no incentive to improve. I agree we need much better for our vets but sadly Im doubtful it'll happen.
4 likes@Gus Woolf well Nam it was mainly drafts
2 likes@YHUAN01 So, even worse then?
6 likesThat's what America does when its dome with you spits you out ans doesn't look back
4 likesAnd then he murdered an man who gave him every chance not to be shot point blank…
0 likes@Xinoaphobia 19yo is a child
1 likeHe might as well have been considering he was going into war
0 likes@Xifong Christian i was homeless for 2 years, from 17-19 yrs old. I doubt you would have survived it when you were 19...
0 likesSo convenient to say 19 is a child when he's sent to war but if he assaulted a schoolgirl y'all would call him a grown man who should've known better. War is immoral, and so is forcing someone to be a soldier and have to experience this horrible situation, but calling someone a child at 19 is outright ridiculous.
0 likes19 is crazy. I didn't know shit at 19.
0 likesYour vets don't deserve to be involved in a war in the first place
0 likesReally? The government doesn't give a * about vets. Why would they waste money on mentally fucked up men/woman, disabled, dependent on meds. etc. There is no profit in the investment of a vet. The government invest where there is a profit. People are really delusional how vets will be treated after there is no use for them. My eleven yr old knows the outcome when humans are pumped out to fight wars.
1 like@Patrick Harrington “by that logic”?? How’d you go from being traumatized by live combat to being financially independent? There’s no logic there. It’s a false equivalence.
1 like@big boi what is the point of this comment? You’re flexing that you were homeless?? Lol
1 likeAnd yet you vote for the politicians sending children to die so they can profit.
0 likes@Xinoaphobia yo it’s a figure of speech bro
0 likes@Chairsbane I never said that? I literally said they're not a child, I didn't say adults can watch their buddies get killed. Stop twisting my words lmfao.
0 likes@Xinoaphobia so you're just needlessly nitpicking, hmm?
0 likes@Chairsbane uh no? jfc, if that's how you wanna see it go for it ig, but no I'm not. I see it as a correction or smth similar.
0 likesHIKARISKY me as a 20 almost 21 year old man can say ive always been mature for my age and i still feel like a child more often than not despite the ridiculous amount of responsibility’s resting on my shoulders sending a 19 year old to war is pretty fucked
0 likesHIKARISKY ps you’re not even fully developed by 19
0 likesThey allow, even encourage very young men to become soldiers exactly because their brains aren't fully developed yet. This enables more effective training as younger people learn faster and more effectively than older people. The still-malleable mind can be molded more easily. Another reason is that the risk-assessment of younger men is not as developed as in fully grown adult men, and so this is desirable when you wish to ask these people to put themselves in harm's way.
0 likesThe generals and politicians who send these young people to fight these wars do not care about their wellbeing, or they wouldn't send them to do these things. The best way we can do better by our vets is to create as few combat veterans as possible by not "[sending] American boys 8 or 10 thousand miles away to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves" - LBJ.
I remember hearing the death screams from the officer in the original video. It still haunts me to this day. Don’t think I’ll ever recover from that trauma tbh.
4 likesAmazing Video. You communicate the situation and emotions perfectly. Not everyone is able to be that neutral, but at the same time specific as you. Amazing man
0 likesIt's interesting to know the another side of the history behind one of the most eerie dashcam videos around on YouTube. Sadly, Kyle and Andrew were victims of the circumstances.
2 likesThis is an amazing piece of informative work .
0 likesMany congratulations for all of your efforts , as they have REALLY paid off ⭐️
I watched this last night, and it hasn't left my mind since. I'm so used to people on this channel being simply sadistic or sociopathic. This person.. "I'm glad to be getting out of this place." wasn't any of those. And to think that the officer was trying to do as little harm as possible.. just a really tragic idea.
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Imagine being on that jury and having to make that decision. There was no good outcome for this case.
139 likes@John Reynolds VA and people that down play PTSD back then really did cost two lives and many more who took their own/ others . . . .
98 likes@John Reynolds shits mess up
8 likesOh shit ur here
2 likesI wonder how many murders from before the Vietnam war were from PTSD and we just weren’t able to identify it.
61 likesThat final line fucked me up. I discussed this with my girlfriend and the take she had was we failed him. He should not have been in that war. All things considered I’m inclined to agree with her.
57 likesMan this is hard to watch i feel bad for all i hope both family's are in a better place and hold on to the good memory's
5 likesalso hi max i use to watch your streams back in the day
@Frank Rizzo the Vietnam war shouldn’t have happened. Most Wars have a reason, but Vietnam was literally based off of a lie.
62 likesGood to see you here Max Box
1 like<3 you max, great content!
1 like"I'm so used to people on this channel being simply sadistic or sociopathic." At first I thought you were talking about the commenters and was like what the hell man, a bit harsh.
15 likesWatch the full video of the incident and you won't be as sympathetic. I watched it way before this video and it is one of the more disturbing things I have seen/heard. The sound the officer makes when he dies will never leave you. Yeah, I'm fine with him being put to death.
11 likes@John Reynolds the jury was actually picked overwhelmingly in favor of dinkheller, one of the jurors was going to be picked, but displayed knowledge of PTSD, and so was not picked. Some of the jurors debated whether Brannan had PTSD, and one juror debated whether PTSD even existed at all.
9 likesThe officer really did try... And both of them suffered from the failure of the gov/state. It's incredibly sad, but I am happy Andy is in a better place. I know people will likely see the video start where he was goofing around and dancing, but that's the start of a manic episode. He was unhinged and once he had the rifle in his hand, being yelled at by some stranger... PTSD got him. He wasn't there anymore, he was back in 'nam. Tragic
15 likes@SirGarforth There are statistical evidences this the case anyway.
4 likes@Lightning Bolt Hey sovereign citizen, bullied by a cop lately?
4 likesJust...fucking devastating....
1 like@Kevin Thomas You are reacting emotionally to a disturbing video. THAT proves JCS is right in his analysis. You are not looking at the whole picture rationally. One of the fundamental aspects in a trial is establishing motive and intent. You are not interested in how and why things happened, you just saw the result, and you made your final judgment. Plenty of innocent people end up in prison or on death row because of this, and this is why jury selection is such an important step.
21 likesThat is also the main reason the death penalty has been abolished in most countries.
@Phantasma I am very aware of that and I don't care. It's just that bad to me Dude could not function safely in society regardless so yeah. Out of curiosity have you seen the video?
1 like@Kevin Thomas Obviously, I have.
1 like@Kevin Thomas you say you don't care. That's the difference between the modern society seeking justice, however imperfect, and the olden way of simple retribution. You should care. One day, you might find yourself in the hot seat, and you would want the world to care.
11 likes@Phantasma Well, it's not like he was falsely accused of a crime. Hopefully I don't find myself in a situation where I murder a scared and relatively helpless person but if so then I'm ok with people not caring.
5 likes@Phantasma Did you see the video before or after watching this video?
1 like@Kevin Thomas The cop was screaming in pain and terror. As horrible as that is, I didn't expect him to go singing to his death.
10 likesMy point is that there's a huge difference between someone who is in full possession of their mental capacity, and someone who is impaired,between being provoked or not, acting with premeditation or in the heat of the moment, There are distinctions that most criminal law systems have made for a very long time,and for good reason. No action or decision comes in isolation.
Because the jury didn't see or care much about the context, you now get two victims. And please explain to me how the execution made things any better. Now you have blood on your hands. Do you really feel like you have restored some balance in the universe?
The police are trained totally different after 9/11. I've been through some anti-terrorist and active shooter training myself. In most instances, if this same scenario would happen now, the Vet would've been shot as soon as he brandished a rifle.
3 likesIt was a bad war at a bad time. Those people had been fighting for their land for 100 plus years. I dunno what we were thinking. Sadly we've seen that our fear of what would happen if Vietnam went all communist was unfounded so we really never needed to be there
1 like@dan Maybe War is a symptom of War
1 like@Corbalte A lot of the examples you've cited either come from notably biased left-wing publications, were inconclusive, offer little to no citations or are just straight up opinion pieces. One of them was even centered around the George Floyd case, ffs.
2 likesI never said any kind of racial bias didn't exist and when you start using words like "historically", you're having a different conversation entirely. What I'm saying is that it exists on such a minute level that just about any effects of it are basically nonexistent. There is no "implicit bias" of police against black people. At least, not to any degree that makes a difference.
@Purro Memes same is true for Iraq and Afghanistan war
0 likesShutdown mode
0 likesyeh one night not tough
0 likesWell said
0 likes@Kevin Thomas I watched this video in a community police academy class several years ago, and they gave no background on the perpetrator. And when I saw it just now, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
1 likeTragic case deffo. But more tragic to so many socialists and communists in here saying that the war was not called for. MAGA!
0 likesIt’s a situation where everyone loses and it’s hard to lay blame on anybody involved. Except for the US
0 likes@Frank Rizzo agreed
0 likesThe thing is, people simply do not understand the intensity of seeing first hand graphic lethal violence. It's really incomparable, but the only way I can describe it is a very explicit change from one self before, to a different person after. The troubling thing for me was, it was difficult to tell exactly how I'd changed. I seemed to have more sympathy and now empathy for the loss of human life, but the negative impact was far greater. I don't have ptsd, and although I had a very cool job in the military, I'm not some battle hardened veteran either. I did not have a job that was a direct contact job. The negative impact for me was, I can no longer tell if any empathy or sympathy I have for anyone is genuine, or if I'm just trying to force it because that's the norm.
3 likesThere is something about seeing a mother burn to death walking down the street that is incomparably more intense than any other possible experience. Life just changes and the dangerous thing is, you just can't put a finger on exactly how.
@SirGarforth the bias is true, but it doesn’t mean these same people don’t feel for the soldier, and or the officer. Fucked up world we live in.
0 likesImagine watching and dealing with this as a cop, judge, or jury and every day and it hasn't left your mind since.
0 likesCouldn't have said it better
0 likesnot a person I would have imagined watching this
0 likesOf all the JCS vids, this one was the most provoking for me. Telling the story of Markeith in order to drive a singular point, was a narrative masterpiece. Well done.
0 likesQuite a lot of this video was about the Lloyd case instead of the Brannan one. But I understand the correlation between the two cases via the explanation. These videos are very well planned and executed.
5 likesThis is the single greatest video documentary out there, the juxtaposition from the beginning to the end of the vid, this is literally a perfectly structured video. This video has a real meaning and lesson, Vietnam was a real war that Is joked about and satirisized far too much. It resonated so clearly. I about cried at the end.
5 likesThis just... makes me sad.
1 likeIt really just makes me so unbelievably sad.
Maybe because someone who was in a horrid place found solace in an animal, something I can relate to a lot.
God. This video just hurt to watch so much. That poor veteran, his poor family, that poor dog, those poor officers.
This really is just horrid in all aspects.
Seeing the lady on camera talking about how she won't live to be 25 is so, so harrowing. :(
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And knowing how many women have died due to "domestic violence" worldwide, even at the hands of their own FAMILY, compounds the horror. Every woman I know, EVERY one; has had trauma visited upon them by men. To every degree you can imagine. It makes me feel angry and powerless.
63 likes@Finished!!!!!! Me too. I can think of a handful of women who have NOT been abused by men at some point in their life. Much love to you <3
9 likes@Finished!!!!!! Yeah I've seen that as well. I've actually had to step in before to stop violence but not all guys abuse their partner I never did. Also women do bad things to from my experience they love to manipulate. Which obviously not all women do that and it isn't as serious as violence but it's still wrong.
5 likes@RazerXP Yugioh no one was saying women don't perpetuate violence at all . but it's an important thing to realize that almost every woman someone knows in their life has been assaulted or harassed by a man to some degree. do not divert from an important subject and say someone was implying something they weren't.
27 likes@normajoe that is not what they were saying and you know that. i'm sorry for the abuse you faced, but women face higher rates of abuse due to their standing in society. many women are abused on the basis of their gender, and men face that type of abuse at much lower rates.
17 likesagain, i'm sorry for the abuse you faced, but you're putting words in that commenter's mouth for no reason.
@kirakira I literally said all not woman do that and I also said not all men are violent. Don't question my respect for women. Men who I've known have treated me like shit but almost every woman I've known has been nice to me and treated me with respect. Even though I respect women more than men doesn't mean I feel like every man is bad because there's good men out there they're just hard to find.
1 like@Finished!!!!!! dude like 90% of normal folks go thru some sort of trauma. That’s what builds good people. Good people are good because they see bad and it shapes them. Bad people keep doing bad. You feel powerless because you’re making it a situation that you feel alone in, which you aren’t.
4 likes@Pancake64 Yeah ikr @kirakira called me out and I wasn't even saying anything bad. I was defending women and they basically called me a misogynist which is not true. And yeah I agree with you abuse goes both ways men and women both get abused.
1 like@Finished!!!!!! LMAO! every man i know, EVERY one; has had trauma visited upon them by women. Who is alive that hasnt experienced trauma from both genders?? Your comment downplays actual abuse and sounds arrogantly biased
14 likesCops went gang gang on that guy. Surprised he survived.
2 likesHello
0 likesNo one can’t tell me she wasn’t sending messages in the vid she looked over at him so many times and seemed incredibly uncomfortable and just went on and on about her “joke”
1 like@HIST 100%
3 likes@sophiaa what?
0 likes@Finished!!!!!! same with men. Sad reality is that there are so many messed up people, and people who don’t know how to deal with that stress given by that person. For me, I was verbally assaulted. I reported the person. Another person may have just kept it in their mind. But that’s just life.
0 likesNah I feel bad for the guy though. He got a boo boo. Lol
0 likesYa she was almost like joking around about it on camera. Really felt uneasy
0 likesI Saw the Brennan video a while ago on the depths of the internet. Hearing about it from the start, it sounded eerily like this vid I'd seen years ago. As soon as I saw the back of that truck I knew what was going down. It's good to know the story of what really happened.
1 likeYour content ruins my day in the most entertaining and informative way that I keep watching
2 likesI feel so bad for him, the government failed andy and continues to do so for others even now. More resources need to go into mental health programs.
0 likesI love this channel. This is the first video to make me cry like a baby. My dad was a Vietnam vet. We have learned more about PTSD but still have more work to do.
0 likesThis channel is better than most Netflix documentaries
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yup
3 likessadly
7 likes@Filthy Casual how it that sad it’s actually a good thing
20 likes@Ghkezsw since Netflix charges a lot each month when the content there doesn’t even compare to these masterpieces, AND for free.
36 likes@Chélle I see it as a good thing that youtubers are capable of making better content than a multi billion dollar company I think that’s really cool tbh
14 likes@Ghkezsw They’re not YouTubers, they’re professional criminal psychologists analyzing suspects interesting behavior and then reporting it for awareness or education online. It’s a good thing for YouTube viewers, but a sad thing for people who are actively paying and wasting money for generic content when they can easily get access to better content and for free.
23 likes@Chélle they are YouTubers because I bet Thier main revenue stream is from YouTube considering the amount of views these guys get and if not they definitely should only focus on yt
1 like@Ghkezsw Just because they post on the app does not make them youtubers.
6 likes@Chélle if it’s Their main review stream I wound consider them a YouTuber if not than they are not
2 likes@Ghkezsw Okay.
0 likesFor real Netflix has so much filler in their shows
1 likeFax
0 likesFOR REALL
0 likesNetflix should hire this channel and pay them tons of money for doing it
0 likesCan you suggest any other channel that present the criminal psychology like this?
3 likesthat's not saying much... Most of Netflix is trash and mainly consumed by mindless mouth breathers
1 likeHonestly him getting to narrate for series and have creative input would be cool
0 likes@Dane's World r/iamverysmart
1 likeCheck out the interview of Ryan Waller. Its got an unexpected turn of events!!!
0 likesNetflix documentaries will just drown out the content by adding so much shit to make the series longer
0 likes@PanKakes I mean a Netflix documentary doesn’t mean series
0 likesCant beat real life.
0 likesMost?
0 likes100%
0 likeslol true
0 likesMost?
0 likes@Quetzalcoatl I'd like to know as well
1 likeRight! A little more content in this video to extend the length a little and i say give it some awards of some sort. I stood up and clapped, just saying 🤘😜
0 likes@Dane's World people like this guy are watching and taking notes for when they make they’re move 😂
0 likesThe Vietnam War by Ken Burns is probably the last good documentary to air on Netflix.
1 likeStop watching Netflix lol.
0 likes@Quetzalcoatl Let me know too lol
0 likesnetflix probs would make a 10 hour-long episodes which have the same amount of info as this video.
1 likeBy most you mean all, right ?
0 likesThe cops say they need the public’s help. That they’re there to help you, etc. but how many people get screwed by talking to cops for no reason.
3 likesLike I don’t remember all the details cause it was such a shocking incident, but not all that long ago, there was a lady who called the cops cause someone broke into her house or something like that, and the cop asks her if she has a concealed carry permit. She says yes, and the cop asks if there’s a gun in the house. She says yes.
He asks why she didn’t notify him and she says she didn’t realize she was supposed to. So he arrests her.
Does every interaction with a cop go like that? Of course not. But it’s also not all that rare either. And that’s just one issue where innocent people get screwed talking to cops on top of many others. If cops want people to work with them they gotta get rid of cops like the one that arrested that woman.
this pulled some heart strings especially the final words, damn.
17 likesIt seems a traffic stop in the US has officers anxious from the opening moment. The voice tone, the commanding instructions, all pitched in highly charged atmospherics from the get go. Its combative tones and instructions, probably fear based and shrill that seems to escalate the moment. Its a simple traffic stop but the interaction from opening is not in any way friendly or conversational in tone or language. Being an officer, a harrowing path in life. Being a Vietnam vet, a harrowing path in life. Wishing both families peace.
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@Damon McNeill rewatch the video - he was speeding crazily
0 likesMan its really tough to hear the panic in the officer's voice as he is almost begging him to stop his shenanigans. He really did not want to hurt the man.
1 like"The Marines taught me how to kill...they never taught me how to stop." Arthur Shawcross, serial murderer.
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He is one utterly scary fella, him tho... Makes my blood run icy cold watching him on the interview on Netflix... He's proper scary....
112 likes@Dream Catch - Me If you haven't heard about this, research his involvement in the Phoenix program during Vietnam. He tortured, mutilated and murdered more people there than stateside, and all part of a government counter insurgency program.
157 likes@Dream Catch - Me Well, then...if you really want to get the scoop on serial killers, mass murderers and their connections to government programs, satanic/pedo groups and secret societies, I've got a channel for you. It's got a weird name, something like "lolfieldandlove". They go into and expound on a book called "programmed to kill", not sure the author, but he is dead. Completely contradicts the official story on so many well known killers and cases. I thought I knew a thing or two, turns out pretty much everything were told is suspect at best, completely fabricated at worst.
36 likesGod some people publish such garbage, he did nothing other than work in warehousing facilities in Vietnam. He saw no active duty in terms of battle or anything!
41 likesWhat’s the doco?
0 likes@inyrui Sure they are. I know much better than that. Unless you are being sarcastically humourous, of course.
3 likes@Simon Folkard Ok, if that's what you choose to believe.
2 likes. He made it all up
5 likesShawcross was a psycho. He didn't need anyone to teach him to kill.
23 likeshe never saw action ..
15 likesHe was full of shit, his military record is available, he’s wildly exaggerating his experience
44 likesGareth Neely If the campaigns he was involved in were classified, they may not be in his record. Also, many military records are inaccurate.
7 likesSo would that make The Marines somehow partially responsible?
1 likeSounds like blame shifting to me.
4 likesAre they serious right now? So y'all are gonna sit here and say they should have been nice to this guy and loosen his cuffs? Right after he murdered an officer and his baby momma with her unborn child.. they wrong for this
3 likesEw ww ew this left me so uncomfortable
1 likeAs a former Marine, I agree. It saying I or others would continue, but for those people who have problems, there's no outgoing interview or anything. It's pretty much go visit these places and get out you piece of shit(for not resigning.). They essentially use you and get rid of you when there's no upside to you staying in. I can only imagine it was much worse back in the vietnam era.
3 likesAnd how many Marines become serial killers?
5 likesI shit on Arthur Shawcross for dishonoring a noble institution.
Wow
0 likes@ Dream Catch - Me
0 likesHey what interview are u talking about? Like whats it called on Netflix? I wana watch it! Thanks
Arthur shawcross
0 likesArmed forces taught you combat skills, but they did not teach you to abuse them. PTSD is real, but saying they never taught you how to stop is shifting blame. No all veterans are crazy.
2 likes"Yah well, the Army made me a killer and I turned out just fine. Blaming the Marines for your own actions is a cop out."-Sheepdog Overwatch-US Army 82nd Airborne Veteran
6 likesHe definitely made it up. He didn't need to see action to excuse is horrific acts
1 likeAlthough the quote itself holds merit, Shawcross never saw combat and he was known for boasting outlandish brutalities he claimed to have done(although he never did, since he never actually went into combat) and claimed to have seen done by the vietcongs(again, outlandish bullshit according to those who served with him).
2 likesHe wasn't a Marine, he was in the Army.
1 like@Chaos Burrito The official story of the McMartin preschool incident says that it was all BS, but if you look through the documents on "The Finders" released by the FBI (page 48-49 https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-03/view) reveal that there were in fact tunnels with pentagrams underneath the school, and that the investigations into them ceased suddenly.
1 like@Chaos Burrito 1. Pg 36 and the statements on it are NOT related to the McMartin case. They are referring to the initial case regarding the Finders that started in Washington, hence the reference to search warrants carried out by the Washington MPD, and the fact that on pg 35, the report is directed to the Washington field office. The McMartin case was in California.
1 like2. The FBI report explicitly states that the pentagrams were drawn by an adult after examination by an archaeologist.
3. At the time of the investigation and trials, it was claimed that these underground tunnels didn't even exist, and that none were found after excavation. This clearly contradicts the FBI report. at the time, the alleged fact that tunnels didn't exist at all was one of the biggest pieces of evidence used against the prosecution.
....and yet, virtually all Marines stop killing, which is to say, Mr Shawcross, that others walked the shared your paths/experiences and didn't make the choices that you made. Hmmm. Next argument?
1 like@Scott Porter Yeah, I can totally understand that. Horrible, unspeakable things they've done. I meant as a career side of things tho, just to clarify
1 like@Voice Of Reason completely false, he just made this up. He never even saw action, and furthermore the torture committed in the phoenix program was done by South Vietnamese intelligence under the supervision of US intelligence officials. Shawcross was never an intelligence officer
1 likeHe was killing people before the marines lol
0 likesCrap. That's deep. Never thought of it like that. Not condoning, just trying to understand.
0 likes@Samuel Allen except shawcross was in the Army not the Marines
0 likes@inyrui no
0 likes1. He was fucked up from childhood. 2. He served in the Army and not the Marines and never saw combat (though he claimed to) so I find it unlikely to be his quote.
1 like@Tim any chance you remember the name, it sounds infuriating
1 like@inyrui their existence is not a myth, but the rest is. There's a few theistic Satanic groups, but they are mostly for people to feel better by being in hermetic society. Exactly as the freemasonry. Ego-boosting groups which are totally not a threat to society. Well, with some exceptions like Order of Nine Angels, but I'd consider it at first as neo-nazi group.
0 likesYo. Can you believe Jeff died? I noticed your avatar. Today, the day I found out he's gone. It's crazy. I can hardly believe it.
0 likes@Simon Folkard Exactly! Saw it in another video, an interview of his. Some officers who knew him from Vietnam confirmed that and said he never saw any combat. So, all those stories about him being gnarly in Vietnam, cannibalizing and all are just his fabrication.
1 likeHe did, however, kill two children in the early 50s' (I guess) and the sack of shit, when asked about it, was disgruntled and said to the interviewer that he'll leave the interview. Despicable!
@Priyankar Chakraborty Exactly he feels no guilt about those horrific crimes, yet he knows how despicable they are and he doesn't want to discuss it. Like every serial murderer an utter coward.
1 likeDam
0 likesDisabled combat veteran here & now I spend a large chunk of my time reading/watching ‘True Crime.’ content. Any veteran with a lick of sense can hear Shawcross’ stories and know he is absolutely FOS. His military record is available you know, he didn’t even see any action. Like most criminals with a bit of military service, they besmirch the rest of us by using it as an excuse for their behavior. Hooah.
0 likes@Tim he definitely said it. it's his quote. it is just made up bullshit.
0 likesim so happy this is back up. one of the best episodes. thanks JCS team for fighting to keep this ch alive.
0 likesI believe in treating all with at least some respect but the "I need medical" pisses me off. So did those two women and baby. They needed help yet he didn't stop. The detective said it straight. He deserves as much respect as a rabid dog. I would say even less than that.
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I have no sympathy for a man who can shoot a person while they're down and kill a pregnant woman. He did not deserve any respect from the cops.
31 likesWhat that man did was horrible, and he deserved to see justice. But all people deserve medical attention, and it was no one's job on that police force to injure a man, call him an animal, and deny him medical care, ultimately ending in blindness. If that were done by anyone other than police officers, that would be criminal action.
23 likesNot defending this man in particular, but pushing back on the system that allows cops to do whatever they want at whatever cost with no repercussions or regard for basic human dignity.
@owievisie I think he deserved no mercy whatsoever, but i have to agree that they have to do their job right and try to be impartial in those kind of situations... even though it must be impossible to be honest becaue i would beat the shit out of him lol
0 likeswhen you gonna make more videos!?!? I watched all of your videos, I love em! and I been watching people who were inspired by you since.. You have inspired a lot of people to make these types of videos but none of them go into as much depth in the psychology of it all like you do and though their videos are good.. there's just some thing missing... They just don't do it like you. Your videos are so well done it's like a show you'd see on TV.
0 likesI've seen the video of Andrew and the cop multiple times in the past. I always wondered what the backstory was, and as I guessed it's a sad and messed up one. Atleast his pain is over, it's unfortunate he had to take Kyle with him.
1 likeI was taking a Lyft two years ago in Denver. Driver saw my name and asked me where I was from. I responded I am from Croatia. He said he was there as well as Bosnia. I expected he would share stories how beautiful the coast was and other touristy stuff. Instead, all of the sudden, he said the following: I didn't kill them. I just shot them in the legs and arms
1628 likesHe was clearly talking about Bosnian war. I somehow hid my horror to what I was hearing. He quickly changed the subject to usual small talk.
The wars leaves scars for life man...
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25 likesI've had a similar experience. I found myself in a car with a Serbian and out of nowhere he started talking about his reoccuring nightmares, the only way he could fall asleep was to keep a firearm under his pillow. I don't remember everything clearly, but I think he was pretty honest about what he did, basically murdered a ton of people on the side of a road. And he felt such guilt that it spilled over when he found someone he didn't know, so he felt comfortable enough to talk about it.
187 likesVery strange experience.
Oh my...
7 likesYugoslav war was such an unnecessary war that created one of the most horrific periods is human history. Not many people know about the horrors of that war but it's a prime example of tribal mentality and human ego. Many people died over something as meaningless as ethnicity. Are we not all human?
99 likesStvarno je nevjerovatno sta rat moze napraviti ljudima i da se to desavalo i jos uvijek desava
9 likesI onda kada se desi nesto kao kad veteran popizdi i napravi nesto lose prebaci se na njega
Nije kriv veteran, krivi su oni koji su ih napravili takvima, oni koji se neznaju pobrinit za cudoviste koje su oni sami napravili
@BMW M5 I agree that the war could've been avoided, but pretending that ethnicity and religion are "meaningless" for one's personal identity is partially the reason for this war. For 45 years communists were forcing everyone in Yugoslavia to like each other by telling them "ethnicity is meaningless" and we're all just Yugoslavs, well, it turned out that "let's just pretend we're friends and that everything is ok" tactics without actually solving the problems that existed among the people only backfired at the end.
39 likesWhat war was that?
0 likesI'm Slovenian; I was 13 when it started. Later on, I think it was 2011; I had a similar experience here in Holland. A Dutchman, who was a blue helmet in Bosnia at the time, out of the blue told me horrors he witnessed. Oh, I was in Sarajevo for work in 2010, knowing the language I engaged in conversations with the taxi drivers. A few of them told me terrible things they experienced. Yeah, heard similar in Syria, Iraq and Yemen in recent years.
7 likesI am from Croatia and this is deep.
2 likesBruh
0 likes@Romi Gaspirc someone should write down these stories so we will never forget the horrors of war..
0 likes@BMW M5 You dont know much about Eastern Europe, and especially the Balkans if you think the war was fought over ethnicities and that they are meaningless.
3 likes@Annick Alexander Thanks
2 likes@Autism is Uncontrollable
4 likesI don't know much at all about the Balkans. Being an American, that's not something they use a lot in our "propaganda films".
Once in Orlando, we had to pick a cab during a hurricane, we thought we were stranding because no one would ever drive while a tornado was in close proximity. This italian american guy, though, was driving and he said to the likes of "Oh, I don't fear them, more costumers for me" he later told us he was a vet of Afghenistan and used to think of the sound of the bullets hitting his convoy as rainfall and of explosions as thunder so he could sleep. War is hell
4 likes@Ryder Nigga What should they have done out of curiosity in your opinion?
0 likesI think another facet of him getting the death sentence is the end of that video. He wounds the cop and you can hear him screaming in pain/fear, only for Andy to calmly walk up to him and finish him. It's truly horrifying, and I can't honestly say I wouldn't be biased like the jury was after seeing it.
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Those cries from the cop are nothing compared to the terror he heard in Vietnam but yes you’re right
0 likes@Sam what? the point isn't to say that the guy's life didn't matter bc he's heard worse in nam
2 likes@Sam Yeah I'm sure he heard lots of Vietnamese screams while all those war crimes were being committed, but that has nothing to do with what I said.
1 likeI remember watching the shootout with Andy and the police officer. It was very difficult to watch. The police officer screamed for his life, and eventually you could hear him take his last breath while Andy shot him in the face… Tragic… I feel for our men and women in blue…
0 likesWhoa! Damn that’s deep, dark and so tragically sad.
1 likeFantastic video…. As always.
What a tragedy for everyone involved.. hopefully something was learned from this and this horrible mistake won’t happen again.
0 likesthis narrator's voice is worth a million dollars.
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15 likesgay
14 likesdime a dozen, what are you talking about
5 likesits worth about tree fiddy
19 likesTrillions
1 likekizzume soumds younger
0 likesIt reminds me of the narrator from sandlot
6 likesVideo is over a year old, comment is 6 days old, and somehow still got 740+ likes. That’s crazy.
5 likes@لمعان comments don't automatically go to the back of the line. I'm sot sure how the algorithm works, but it's somehow a mix of new and old comments.
3 likesShole is! I love it!
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
2 likesHe narrates the newer video's for Another channel called Audit the audit
1 likeIt litterbugs is as a millionaire
0 likes@EviLLivE Clan ur what’s wrong with this world
1 like😂👌🏾
0 likesisn't it one of the computer-generated choices that foreigners pay to use for their channels?
1 likei agree
0 likesOne question I have always asked. How do these lawyers take cases like this and tried defend such evil people. I mean if someone confessed with damming evidences. HOW just F how!
2 likesHave you considered doing the Brendon Dassey interview as an example of what NOT to do in an interrogation? As many people say that they didn't just do an alternative question, but actually planted the ideas in the head of a non-neurotypical and unintelligent individual
0 likesEdited to add: Ken Kratz is a SLIMY person
I miss you dude. Do you upload new videos anywhere else or did you stop altogether? That would be a goddamn tragedy if you did quit. You are the best and always will be. We need you please return!
1 likeBe glad it's not the full dashcam footage. Hearing another human's death throws isn't something you easily forget.
3 likesWho else started with “what pretending to be crazy looks like” then binge watched this whole channel
8166 likes(This is my last one before I’m caught up)
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34 likesLiterally same. New videos didn't get recommended anymore so I checked out the channel, just to find out I already fully watched every single one. Except this one.
121 likesabsolutely.
7 likesBruh Same 🙌
8 likesStarted with the same one...and also ending with this one lol
47 likesthere's shit to be done, places to be, and yet five hours later, still on Criminal Psychology...
29 likesRight here!!! Ending with this one.
6 likesit’s so good lol
5 likesMe
3 likesLongest Tuesday I’ve had in awhile lol
3 likesMe
1 likesame
1 likeLol same, last one, I started with the first ones then switched to the old ones and this is the last video and the most painful too. Feels bad man.
1 likeSame ! :D
1 likeMe too gang
1 likeSame
0 likesSame here!
0 likes@Ezrax77 started and ended with the same exact videos lmao
4 likesStarted 2 days ago and this is my last one too. The only one I haven’t finished is Jennifer’s solution
2 likes@Calvin Archibald damn man, this is my last one too...
0 likesYes
0 likesOmg me
0 likesi'm almost caught up and i'm hooked.
1 likeI still got 4 to go after this, won’t sleep much tonight lol
0 likesI’ve been losing sleep binge watching this channel lol
2 likesI did, which then led me to watch all his videos, which then led me to watch mike(That Chapter)
1 likemeeeee too now I have nothing else to watch
1 likeDoes anyone else know any other great channels like this one?! I binged everything as well after that video and now I want more!!
1 likeeffin same
0 likesSame.
0 likesDang. You started late. This video has had some audio edits where it said if you looked up the police shootout video it would be horrifying to watch, etc. If you’re squeamish don’t look it up. He removed his audio about it at all, and it was way more impactful before he removed the audio.
1 likeAlso there’s a fantastic video about Jussie Smollett that I think was removed due to stupid DMCA music in the intro, one of his best intros ever, but you’ll have to find it elsewhere now cuz it’s not on Jim’s channel anymore.
Edit: it’s still there but unlisted, maybe legal action was threatened. Just look it up on Google you can still find it easily enough
I’m seeing a lot of Same’s.. seems YouTube finally giving Jim’s channel a ton of new fans, yet here I am been watching since before a few video removals and audio edits years ago lol
Exactly the same for me
0 likespretty sure this channel gained a million and counting in followers this week, so yeah haha same
3 likesme
0 likes💯 me
1 likeLiterally that’s how it’s started for me
0 likesI've been watching this channel from time to time for a while now but I'm glad to see so many new people finding it through that video. Truly some of the best true crime content on YouTube.
0 likes@Jakob H sameee
0 likes@Calvin Archibald everyone thought thus one wasnt gonna be good 😂
0 likes@Aimz XxO Yall can pay for about 35 more of these videos on their patreon
1 likeYall can pay for about 35 more of these videos on their patreon
0 likesDitto
0 likesyessssss...
0 likesffs yes. it's put me behind in life as i have tons of shit to do too lol.
0 likesMe
0 likesYep
0 likesWtf literally yess!! Except I am saving the Chris watts series for my last one and this is my last one before that.
1 likeThis was my last video too! Excited for more
0 likesme! And come to the conclusion that the channel has very few videos,
0 likesSame here. I searched “fake insanity plea”
1 likeeveryone on youtube i think
0 likesAnother victim here... this channel has caught me
0 likesSame
0 likesBeen watching for over a year, I first saw the Chris Watts ones
0 likesME MAH MAN
0 likesYeeeep
0 likesSame on my 6th video
0 likesSame 😂😂😂 I see that comment on all these videos
0 likesI’d love to see more videos!
0 likes"I'm in this comment and i don't like this"
0 likesI'm going backwards from the most recent video
0 likesSeriously tho 😳 these vids are so well done.
0 likesYep
0 likesSame
0 likesmeeeeee🤭🙋♀
0 likesI just finished all the videos 😂 they need to come out with some more
0 likesSame. My last vids to watch are the Chris Watts interrogations
0 likesthis comment is exactly mf own experience with this channel. started the same day as you, on the same video. ended the same day as you, on the same video
0 likes@Holden Caulfield I’m lucky this channel doesn’t have a ton of videos so
1 likeI can get my life back
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0 likes@broli m the guy who makes these videos is thinking, “man I got to find some more psychopathic murderers. I’m running out of material.”
0 likesdude same
0 likesYes 😂😂😂
0 likesSomething like this, got some other video recommended earlier. I'm not a true crime fan, but I love this channel. The narrator's voice is perfect and I love the way he describes stuff.
1 likeLike 2 days ago, and now I'm hooked up in this channel
0 likesYup
0 likesSame here! Don't know why I bothered sorting by View Count considering I ended up watching every single one anyway.
1 likeme. same
0 likesSame situation lol. Its been a wild ride.
0 likesI caught it just before that Facebook post
0 likesMade its way around the web.
me lol
0 likesMe
0 likesStarted with that and ending with this too.
0 likesMeeee
0 likesThis is exactly how it happened..mind blown lol
0 likes@Suzki same I think he unarchived it
0 likesIts like we have all lived the same lives
0 likesI’m pretty sick and tired of seeing this same exact comment on every one of his videos
0 likesWorking on it!
0 likesSAME. OBSESSED.
0 likes...same. Now I'm trying to find a similar channel.
0 likesBeen subscribed for as long as you have been alive, child.
0 likesYuuuup
0 likesBro me too
0 likesNah man I was watching this weeks ago he had 200k+ subs now he’s here with 3.3mill this is crazy
0 likeshaha! Me too.. I have been doing two a day and I've been fervently suggesting it to others.
0 likesOmg same
0 likesMeee
0 likesThis is my last one too, hahaha
0 likesYeah everyone I've talked to about it also saw that vid first.
0 likesits what i saw on my recommended first but im saving that one for last
0 likesare we all the same person or something?
0 likesYes, and it's also my last one :c
0 likesSame
0 likesI started with some videos that don’t even exist anymore
0 likesAnd in 3 days no less
0 likesit's my last video too and i didn't even follow youtube algorithme ordre or any kind of order i just watched the videos randomly maybe the thumbnail has something to do with it or maybe the video short length make it looks like it's not interesting to watch the youtube warnings in the start of the video my effect the order too because i was about to watch this video earlier but because of all the warnings i kept it for last till i created a youtube account just to watch it.
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likesYes
0 likesYes dude that one was pretty good I love this channel and I wish for more!
0 likesYep 😂😂😂
0 likesSpot on lol
0 likesI started on the exact same video 🤘
0 likesThis comment is on every single video
1 likeOMG SAME!! How did everyone happen to be recommended “what pretending to be crazy looks like” but not any other video
0 likesSame wtf
0 likesits like crack, but the good kind.
0 likesKinda same xD binge watched the whole channel last summer and was so glad when the pretending to be crazy one came out xD
0 likesYup
0 likesNa been watched all his videos since a long time ago yall late
0 likesI think the first video I watched was the Chris watts one after watching the Netflix documentary
0 likesLol exact same
0 likesY'all need to watch his patreon
0 likesraises hand i've watched like five of these videos just today. and all because 'what pretending...' was posted to a fakedisordercringe subreddit. down the rabbit hole i go, i'm subscribed to this channel now
0 likesBruh real shit
0 likesThis is almost my last one :(
0 likesBeen watching for awhile but the “Pretending to be crazy” vid really revamped my interest
1 like@Bubsy i thought you were referencing DNSL at first lol
0 likesEXACTLY BRO
1 likeYes!
0 likeswhats more fascinating is that we all collectively saved this one for last
0 likes@Ostrich 4 President well, there goes the rest of my week lol. This will literally be the first time I’ve ever donated to someone’s Patreon
0 likesMe
0 likesI'm working on finishing
0 likesOMG ME
0 likesI have this feeling that we all watched every single video in the same order
0 likesholy crap same here hahahahahah
0 likesi started with the "innocent until guilty" a month ago. then i binged after that one u said
0 likesYep
0 likesWelcome to this channel. Don't know when we'll be blessed with a new vid but its pretty great here.
0 likesSeems like its the whole world. I live in fucking Armenia and everyone in my friends circle is binging on this channel.
0 likesVerbatim
0 likesSame
0 likesLITERALLY ME XD
0 likesAfter this I'm 9n my last 2 videos
0 likesHaha me!
0 likesWe’re a little family 🥺🤣
0 likesSaving the 2hr Wrath of Jodi for the finale.
0 likesguilty!
0 likesJajajaja, meee
0 likesSame 🤣🤣
0 likesI too started with pretending to be crazy and this is also my last one. This is MONSTERS is another good true crime channel despite the poor grammar in their name
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0 likesNo way exactly Mr
0 likesthis is the first time i have ever had to verify my age with a bank card. Smh. I don't think I agree with it, but nevermind here I am binge watching some more. :D. ahaha.
0 likesSamesies
0 likesNah, I’ve been here since Sim couldn’t swim.
0 likesI been watching too many of these, I thought u said “before I’m caught”
1 likeLMAO same 😂
1 likeI though I was the only one
1 likeYT algorithm works in mysterious way.
0 likesThe first one I watched was Jennifer’s Solution many many months ago!!
0 likesyes, literally same
0 likesway more than half are in florida, is there a reason for this???
0 likesIt was, “The Case of Chris Watts” for me.
0 likessame only got 1 more left
0 likesG Wagon he has a whole bunch of videos on Patreon that are not on YouTube…. Like a lot of them.
0 likesSAME LMAO
0 likesYES OMG LMAOOOO
0 likessame this is my last one too lol
0 likesReal ones were here before
0 likesnope, been here from the beginning of his channel when all the chris watts stuff came out.
0 likes@Chris Anderson same here! I knew i found his channel a while back and loved his content. then the stuff was gone and found his channel again when he posted the chris watts stuff. I miss the older content too and donno why exactly they were removed :/
0 likesHell ya brudda
0 likesSame here, although I got a few more to go.
0 likesme asf
0 likesme to
0 likesI started with Jodi and finished with this one.
0 likesSeems like this one is everyone's last video from this channel until being caught up. Can't wait for more.
0 likesShit crazy how everybody started off with that video
0 likesis there any other channel similar and as good as this ? I have also finished watching all the videos of this channel.
1 like@Bink https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZv3z7FOt0 here friend!
0 likesFor me it was Jennifer's Solution a while back but rediscovered through Pretending to be crazy
0 likesWhy are you like this Mr psychic
1 likeHaha me
0 likesMe
0 likesMe…. I still have a few more to go
0 likesGot me hooked up on "what pretending to be crazy looks like" and with this one done, only the longest ones left to watch!! Amazing channel!!
0 likesMy grandad was in this war and it's crazy seeing what he saw and went through
0 likesI'm a huge fan! Please make more content, I've already learnt so much from your videos. Good stuff.
0 likeswoah this was really hard to watch, imagining him talking and screaming with himself is the worst nightmare i could imagine
0 likesi'm glad i survived war without losing anyone from my family and most of my relatives but it makes life so difficult after it and what this man saw was way more than i ever did
war destroys people and what this man lived destroyed him completely to the point that he was acting on his true new nature (crazy) reimagined himself being in war again when he saw the gun and woke up again when he realized what he did and couldn't express himself nor apologies enough so he was glad to be getting out of this place
Death penalty was given to the wrong cop killer, and that's coming from someone that thanks and loves the police. That sounds horrible, but I know Vietnam veterans, I could definitely see someone being so far gone. To this day, I will still thank god for the police and our judicial system and the DAs & juries that play role of the gears. I hope all effected parties are doing as okay as they can to this day.
17 likesThis is a perfectly executed video. Kudos to you!
2 likesvideo resonates...I cant even begin to imagine what soldiers saw, heard or felt during there time in war
1 likeJust noticed that the Markeith part was cut from the video.
3 likesAlso found out that the guy who killed his girlfriend and the cop outside a Walmart has been sentenced to death.
My great uncle (my gdad's brother) fought in Vietnam and it fucked him up for the rest of his life. He was in charge of a group of guys and sent them out one day. One of the guys told my uncle he wasnt going because he was going home in 2 weeks and he'd more than likely get killed if he went. My uncle told him he had to go, didnt have a choice. Well, he went and sure enough he got shot and lived long enough for him to look at my uncle and say "I told you". My uncle would break down crying randomly throughout his life because that incident haunted him.
0 likesGreat video Jim.
0 likesI think the real enemy is war and conflict itself.
A lot of people really don't get what war does to the human mind. I have nothing but respect to our Veterans that serve with honor, and I hope Andrew was able to find the peace he was looking for.
0 likesThe story about the veteran hurt my heart :( I hope his soul is resting easy.
0 likesmarkeith lloyd's case was awful, but it gave the police the incentive to avoid police misconduct, or it could jeopardize the case against someone who they really want going to jail
2 likesI saw this dashcam footage years ago and I remember the screams of the officer haunting me (they weren't shown here). I didn't know all of the background behind it, or the court decision it caused. With the context, it looks a lot more tragic. A country that forced Andrew to go to war, left him to deal with the repercussions on his own, and then finally executed him when he snapped. Officer Kyle Dinkheller was simply doing his job on a simple traffic stop, and was extremely patient with Andrew. But all Andrew could see was the officer's weapon and was in fear of his life, just like he had been before. Neither of them deserved this, even more so when you factor in that they had both served in the same war.
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You could say that the responsability of both of their deaths is with the united states government. That young boy back in the sixties was turned into a mindless killing machine to protect the interests of his government and now when years later he does what he only learned to do, kill, the nation gets rid of him as if it wasn't their fault
144 likesAndrew wasn’t in fear of his life. He was prancing around like a pony and acting aggressive towards the cop, until he got bored and killed Kyle in cold blood.
38 likes@Alex you have clearly learned nothing from any of these videos if that’s all you took away
132 likes@Allison Hogarth What do you assume I haven't learned
10 likes@Alex literally anything about psychology
83 likes@Alex plus, did you even listen to the video? the narrator explains exactly what’s happening.
71 likes@Allison Hogarth Wow, you sure do love vagueness. Be more specific than "literally anything about psychology." Also I watched and listened to the video, I understand everything that happened. Asking if I even watched the video achieves nothing. Instead of going on the offensive and trying to attack me, why don't you explain what you disagree with.
16 likes@Alex a person killing someone in the midst of a PTSD episode is almost by definition not a cold blooded murder lmao. Cold blooded implies it was planned beforehand or done via rational thinking
108 likes@The Silenced I think the "patient" comment refers to the fact that he had multiple opportunities to kill him, and would have been justified in doing so, but tried his very best not to open fire.
52 likesI'm not a big fan of cops, but this guy really tried hard to avoid killing. Unfortunately, he ended up dying because of that.
@xmisterpilgrimx Two guys with guns meet on the road and scream at each other and you think one is more justified than the other in killing someone. Weird, right?
4 likes@The Silenced Well, look at it like this - the cop had his firearm out and had numerous opportunities to fire on someone he knew was armed and confrontational, but didn't, whereas the veteran fired at his first opportunity - when he actually took the firearm and pointed it at the cop. It seems to me like one of those parties showed more restraint than the other.
22 likesDon't get me wrong, as I said before, I'm no fan of the police, and there are definitely trigger happy assholes in uniform, I just don't get the impression this guy is one of them.
@The Silenced I disagree. He started with a pretty simple "step back here" followed by "how are you doing today" and then "keep your hands out of your pockets" (a reasonable concern), after which the vet says "fuck you" followed by "shoot my ass", dances around like a lunatic, and then behaves increasingly more aggressively from this point on.
28 likesHe didn't cause the initial escalation. And then, after the guy is acting crazy and approaching him aggressively, he's supposed to... What exactly? Then the guy reaches into his truck, after which he shows a weapon - how was the officer supposed to deescalate the situation at that point?
Look at the video again, and see if you can point out what actions were wrong and what you think he should have done instead, using timestamps from the dashcam. You seem to feel like you know how this should have been handled differently, so I'm curious as to how you would achieve a deescalation with the aggressive, armed, mentally disturbed military veteran.
I'll say it once again, I'm no fan of police, but I just don't see what you're seeing here. To be clear, sure, he could have gone out of his way to be super sweet, that's always true, but you're framing this as though he did something wrong, or was the cause of the escalation, and I just don't see whatever you're seeing to come to that decision. Perhaps if you explain in detail it will be clearer.
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@xmisterpilgrimx The officer clearly didn't know what to do in case of a difficult (and mentally ill) individual, and didn't know how to de-escalate a situation that risks turning violent,he completely lost his composure when the man started acting funny and just resorted to shouting, which devolved into complete panic when he shiwed the gun.
3 likesHe was not guilty for it, the vet made his own decisions and was responsible for them, but the officer absolutely didn't help the case, and if he had acted differently he most likely could have calmed the situation and avoided a violent confrontation.
So the vet didn't comply, didn't act nice and started to get agitated? Guess what, that's what happens in police work. You need certain social skills and eye for social cues to calm a distressed citizen down, and most of all you need training for situations like this. I'm sure the issue here was the latter, police officers in America receive woefully inadequate training, they only receive a couole months of training which barely covers the basics and doesn't prepare them for difficult situations like dealing with people with mental illness. If the unfortunate officer had received proper training before being allowed on field alone he might still be alive today
@Exantius E Well, I can't really argue with that. Training for officers is woefully inadequate when it comes to mental health issues. I'm not sure that I agree it was possible to deescalate this situation, but I can't definitively say it's not possible.
7 likesI do believe that, considering the way it played out, it would have been hard to blame the officer if he had used deadly force once the weapon was identified, as his life was in imminent danger (as evidenced by his being killed shortly after). I also think it's tough to say whether or not trying to holster his weapon and talk the guy down would have increased his risk once the vet was aggressive, but that's all Monday morning quarterbacking - we can speculate about other ways this might have played out, but with someone this mentally ill, it's very difficult to reliably predict the outcome of other alternatives.
It was definitely clear from the vets behavior that he was unstable in some way, and I agree that it's a shame the officer didn't have training to fall back on for a scenario like that. Then again, one could argue that he had a duty to subdue him specifically BECAUSE he was unstable and therefore a possible threat to himself or others (especially once it was evident that he was armed), which makes deescalation much more difficult.
Regardless, it's clear you raise some cogent points about policing in general and this case in particular. Thank you for the interesting response.
@xmisterpilgrimx I don't think the officer was to blame, he did not have the training or the experience to deal with that kind of situation. And once the man threatened him with a gun hewas in his rights to shoot, as said in the video. If he had shot the man dead I probably would have thought that he could've done better and should take this as a learning opportunity so next time he was prepared, not that he should receive a pumishment. The vet was failed by the mental health services and the officer by his trainers, overall it was two very sad and pointless deaths
2 likes@Exantius E Agreed, two tragic, preventable deaths, basically caused by the failure of the system for the very people that defend and uphold it. As you said, a failure to train the cop, and a failure to provide adequate assistance to the vet. It sounds like we're both ultimately on the same page at this point.
5 likesUnfortunately, I suspect the lessons learned by those in power will be along the lines of "warrior training would have kept him safe" and "law enforcement is like a war". The funds that could be used to train officers to better handle the mentally ill and/or treat those who need mental health care will instead be spent to train officers that they're under constant threat, how they can better use force to maintain control, or that they're warriors on a sacred mission from god, and their biggest focus is to go home at the end of the day, even if that means using deadly force because a suspect MIGHT be reaching for a weapon. Violence, dominance, and incarceration instead of training, service, and care. Reaction instead of prevention.
The saddest part about these deaths is that the next time this happens, there's no reason to believe the outcome will be any better. At the end of the day, nothing was learned, and history is bound to repeat itself. That, in my mind, is the real tragedy.
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@xmisterpilgrimx I think you hit the nail in the head there. It's sad to see the same problems we had decades ago are still not adressed, how we go on year after year repeating the same mistakes. Some say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result; by that definition this country is either insane or doesn't even expect things to change
2 likesHe feared for his life? Why did he start dancing then? Most people don't laugh and dance when they are truly in fear for their life.
4 likes@Alex cold blooded is not like, a scientific term and means different things to different people, but although this guy was ruthless (another term for cold blooded), general a cold blooded killer is more like a planned strangulation by a loved who saw their husband chest on them--Chris Watts and others murderers fit this. But a PTSD war vet shooting a cop, that's hot blood. That's fire and passion, living in a flashback, not the present. Cold blooded implies lack of emotion, detachment, even boredoms while committed the act , but this dude found glee and pleasure in it. it's a crime of passion. Not cold at all.
4 likes@Samantha Fujiwara Because the police officer didn't point his gun at him at that point?
0 likes@Samantha Fujiwara well the dude was fucking insane basically so 🤷♂️
1 likeAfter personally being abused and terrorized by racist police, I hate to admit, that hearing his desperate squeals brought me solace and healing. Ugh. What a world we live in. Hope it gets better. Demonized enemy for the color of my skin b. Fuck.
1 like@Allison Hogarth but he was a thug tho.
0 likes@Alex In the end it seems like the other person didn't respond to you in a specific manner, so let me try. I agree with you that Andrew certainly wasn't in fear of his life, but your second sentence reads like you missed the point of why he did what he did. He was prancing around like a pony and acting aggressive towards the cop because he was essentially trying to commit suicide by cop. Once his final attempt at suicide failed, which is jerking his head up in a manner that would indicate he's about to shoot, especially that he had shown Kyle that he is armed, something in his mind snapped and he went for the kill while trying to make himself a harder target to hit (opposite to what he did before the "snap") which, at least to me, doesn't seem like an act of boredom and deciding "hmmm today i will shot myself some cop" but an act of insanity, which i believe to be understandable, considering the vietnam background and the resulting PTSD. I've been taught that cold-blooded in cases like these means emotionless and without remorse. I don't know much about what kind and range of emotions a PTSD ridden person that just "snapped" goes through, but his final words before execution show that he felt remorse, so can this murder be considered cold blooded? Perhaps it depends on what definition of cold blooded you follow.
5 likes@Allison Hogarth I believe he's one of those tunneled people, like those jurors, who's once shown the video, would drop all the back stories and the reason why they were there and that one particular event or reason that led to the trial they're being summoned to be juror of.
0 likesIt seems once he saw that "jolly" Andrew in the video, he forgot everything that the video had earlier explained prior to showing the video. Even worse than those juries who might learn on the backstory as the trial went on.
I'm sorry but that dashcam footage was funny asf
0 likes@Alex They mean you haven't learned anything about the case at hand.
6 likesSevere PTSD, under a stressful situation, like being off of MEDS and thus suffering Withdrawal, which in case of psychoactive medication often means that symptoms return MUCH more amplified - it is no wonder he flipped, acted like a goof.
They often goofed around like that in Nam as well, a mechanic to fool death and to have a good time even though just 2 hours ago, in field, 6 people got blown and shot to pieces by the Vietcong.
It was his amplified symptoms of his PTSD showing through, and not 'prancing and dancing and then wanting to kill'.
The US also often did a "show of power" to the VC. Showing off Manpower and Vehicles and Air superiority. In hopes of making them retreat.
That he showed his gun and then waited what the "enemy" would do, shows that he was merely trying to see how far the other person would go. Just like the Warfare in Nam was. Showing presence and seeing how the enemy react. He was used to enemies fighting under cover and guise, in shelter and ambushes. So in his mind it went 'click', and he identified the Police Officer as "charlie sitting behind a technical, waiting in ambush". Aka, an enemy soldier, sitting behind his armored or at least fighting-capable vehicle, waiting to spring out and cowardly one-shot him when he least expected it.
Being on Medication does the funkiest things - being OFF of medication in an unsupervised manner, does the WORST kind of funky things. Flashbacks, reality altering, perception twisting effects.
@Alex yes that is the dictionary definition of being cold-blooded but going by the legal definition, being killed in cold blood entails "a state of mind marked by premeditation and deliberateness" and is usually used to describe first-degree murder. it's different from being killed in a "heat of passion," meaning it implies that the murder is in no way premeditated and it's either spurred by provocation or an agitated state of mind
1 likeI have a hard time seeing him as being in fear for his life. He charged that officer while unarmed. then went back to his truck, then got his gun. He was gunning for a fight from the beginning, not in fear. Whether that fight response is the result of his PTSD is immaterial.
1 like@The Silenced "if I'm a cop" ~The guy with zero law enforcement or security background
0 likeslike JCS, and regardless of Andy's background, I think it's the officer's fault, he really, really should have let it go and the veteran gave despite his illness and the fact that you can't just evade a cop by running away tried his best to scare off the cop, the guy was persistent and adamant to assert his power and prove himself even though it was very clear from the video that he was dealing with a mentally unstable person committing a relatively harmless, victimless crime.
0 likes@Alex He was off his meds for 2 weeks. His meds that otherwise left him 100% disabled. He suffered from an extreme form of PTSD and had manic episodes. He was off his rocker for sure, but it wasn't his fault. The rocker was pulled out from under him when he lost his whole family two times over. First time in the war, second time in the weeks leading up to the event. That would send anyone into manic episodes and make them want to die.
0 likes@Alex he was not in fear of his life true, he is just completely off his rocker.
0 likesI wish them both to rest in peace. Also, I hope his dog somehow has a good life without him and joins him in the afterlife some day :(
0 likesIncredible episode. Glad I finally watched, I'll remember it forever.
1 likeI remember watching the footage of officer Dinkhellers dashcam. It’s one of the most horrifying videos ever honestly.
1 likeIt's really telling that Andy B's final words were offering condolences to the family of the officer he killed...
0 likesWtf this is so good!!! I actually teared up at the end haha it felt like an ending of a great movie. By far my favorite video of jcs. Thank you so much for this!
1 likeYou did a great job with this one JCS.
0 likesI want more!
My father did two tours in Vietnam. His twin brother was set to leave for Vietnam also. My dad wrote several letters to high ranking government officials and top politicians in New Jersey. My dad stayed another year in Vietnam so his twin wouldn't have to go to war too. My dad is my hero ❤️
0 likesI used to drive by the exact place this went down everyday. I remember when it happened and they played the video on the news. Brutal for all involved.
0 likesHis poor parents, losing three sons.
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I can’t imagine how that feels
55 likessarahdelano heart breaking. I hope they found paradise.
17 likesabsolutely awful. just another sad example of the crimes of war. those who left alive are the ones who are suffering the most... truly a tragedy. I hope and pray that those pointless war over oil and money will one day end.
67 likesDont send your kids to wars thousand of miles away from your own country
12 likes@Mustafa A. his parents did not kill anybody.
23 likesYeah... can you imagine. Just awful. I pray they have found some sort of peace in knowing their children are in a place where they will no longer hurt. So heartbreaking. I can't even fathom that kind of hurt
1 likei hope y’all know his parents were dead at the time of his execution😂😂
3 likes@Mustafa A. Many of those kids were drafted, and sent to Vietnam by force
29 likesMustafa A. Ever heard of a draft? And I bet the same people complaining in the comments voted for Biden who wants to increase troops in the Middle East. Actually it seems like everyone but Trump wants to increase troops in foreign countries.
22 likesAll because of war. And then because of the subsequent abandonment by their own country after their return.
0 likesCosts of wars. Sadly, America never learns.
3 likes@YallCrazy True!! I am muslim and I vote for Trump.
4 likesObama, Bush etc all started war. Trump ended ISIS and brought back the troops = ended the war.
Biden was vice president when Obama created the cages for mexican children to seperate them from their parents
My parents always told me to never join the military. They will use you and then dump you when they're done
3 likeswell shit happens, they knew what they were getting themselves into
0 likesI had 3 great uncles in the war , 1 got a metal plate in his head , 1 lost half a leg , and the other was Kia, the damage on both sides of the war was unnecessary, Our leaders send our people to die , non stop! Maybe we should force the Senate and Congress to go to battle!
4 likes@Mustafa A. I've been to Vietnam, the people are hopeless under communism, which is more crooked than capitalism. No system stops greed. The troops in Hue were NVA regulars, soldiers in uniform. Don't blame a soldier for obeying his countries call. You should be more sensitive to his parents, one died by suicide, one in accident and the third put to death. A cop died also .. a tragedy all around.
3 likes@vIPR Trump is the only President that didn't start any forever wars. His foreign policy accomplishments will be legendary. A very excellent President.
1 like@Scott Johnson I agree!
0 likesAll from wat
0 likes@Umbamba Timbuktu ha-ha. so funny
1 likeI feel more bad for the officer he killed
0 likes@vIPR Problem with trump is, that through him china gained more Power. China is one of the countrys who benifitted the most from trump.
2 likes@Dijango001 I disagree, Trump hit China really bad, the economy in China went to shit by the end of 2019. Guess what happened after? A pandemic 😷, and it started from China. Is it all just a coincidence? 🧐
0 likes@U-Free
2 likesTrump: pulls out of the ttp, China enters it and now is trying to lead it
Trump: taxes Chinas products, china opens factorys in maleysa and vietnam (enemys of chima) for the last Assimilation part, dodging the tax and creating Jobs in countrys who were opposed to china. Also they simply started to sell some products for a smaller price to other countrys.
Trump: leaves europe alone and tries to change up market deals (which is nothing bad if done right) fails at it, europe starts drifting towards china, some even protecting china since they helped their economy of the respective country.
EVERYTHING trump did helped china, even those Things with whom he tried to stop china.
Trump was the best Thing that could have happened to them.
What medication did he not fill? The information gives valuable insight into the case and person.
0 likesi’ve binged every video on this channel. this one is the saddest thing by farrrrrr. terrible circumstances all the way around
0 likes"...I'm glad to be getting out of this place." Gets me every time.
1 likeI had no idea that this was THAT police shooting until 7 minutes in.
0 likesI watched said dashcam footage when I was in high school back when YouTube was in its infancy. I still think about it to this day. It really chilling how the traffic stop unfolds and made me realize I don’t have what it takes to be a police officer.
Oh my god, Jim, I’ve been waiting for one of you videos during the quarantine for the longest since they’re extremely well made and informative. I binged all of them a while ago and I can safely say I am not dissatisfied, keep up the great work man!
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Yes, definitely become a patron.
38 likesWithout hyperbole, the $1 per month is far and away the best value for entertainment that I’ve ever had and will undoubtedly never be topped.
This video on his Patreon is like 4x longer and you have an archive that will make your quarantine boredom beg for mercy.
I’ll pay for your first month if you want.
Honestly, Patreon has been worth it
14 likes@rojeezee Awww that's seriously so sweet of you! (:
4 likesHow many vids has he got on patreon? Never paid for vids like this but its top tier Content
2 likesget on dat patreon 1 dolla 1 dolla
0 likesI keep meaning to join the patreon but I've never used it before. Do they post much on there?
3 likesJust to add to the others and confirm. Patreon is definitely worth it. Jim C Swim just dropped a very compelling video about Aileen Wuornos. He has a rare gift of presenting the information in a way which is not telling you what to think and is so balanced you are able to form your own conclusions.
5 likes@Nunpho about one a month, sometimes two. longer versions in some cases
3 likesHis Patreon is where you need to go, so much content on there that he can’t put on YouTube. $1 for all access.
1 likeHis patreon is the best. You get way more awesome content than what $1 can get you these days.
0 likesCool, I think I'll go wild and join then :)
2 likesDont cheat yourself, treat yourself.
0 likesThe patreon is hot fire
0 likesrojeezee Thank you for letting me know, I’m not going to take that dollar from you so that you can give it to Jim once again ;), but I am for sure going to sign up since I love this content. I appreciate you showing me this
1 likeI've seen a lot too, maybe I've missed a few. Going to check out the library.
0 likesBuy their Patreon. Soooo many more and soooo many good ones. He breaks of and explores other topics. It’s a buck.
0 likesBlazing Bud 15-20 on the patreon site.
1 likeBlazing Bud it’s top tier. There’s a lot of vids too.
1 likeI've watched the video of the officer screaming before he died. Interesting to see the whole story behind the incident.
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place”
3 likesAndrew was talking about more than life, he was talking about Vietnam.
Andrew had never truly left Vietnam after what he had experienced.
All of these years I've seen that video as the police training against shooting clip and never knew the tragic backstory. Mind blowing.
0 likesNo amount of war movies made me realize how terrible war is like this 24 minute and 42 second video did
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And realistically I'd say only 12 minutes or less were about the veteran, the rest was about the other guy
2 likesMy father was a Vietnam Veteran. He hated the Fourth of July because of the firecrackers. My mom told me it was a trigger for his PTSD (I’m guessing because it sounded like gunshots) but I never witnessed him having an episode until one Fourth of July, the firecrackers were going off really loud and he went straight to the floor. I tried to talk to him but he was responding as if he was speaking to someone else and saying Vietnamese words or names. My mom intervened and talked him through so he can come back around. Me and my sister I were worried for him and it was a wake up call for me about what he must have really gone through. He passed away from liver cirrhosis when I turned twelve.
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My uncle was in the war, he died in August 19th 2018 from cancer, cancer that was from the agent Orange. I’m so sorry for your loss, it’s hard I still have all his medals and his uniform. Truly terrible how they were treated when coming home as well. My uncle was 19 when he served.
44 likes@Hannah Lynn Sorry to hear about your uncle, it’s so sad to hear about what they exposed them to, especially at such a young age. I wonder if the veterans ever got compensation for agent orange. My mother who worked in the VA hospital for years told me so many Vietnam Veterans suffered from very similar illnesses and she thinks it was the agent orange that did it
16 likes@Greg Murphy I hope your love is a sarcasm cause that some psychopath shit comment
20 likesrip to a kinf
0 likes@darkravemaster16 I feel like the sarcasm is very obvious here
51 likesThank you for sharing that story. I wish more people could know it.
2 likesI have no doubt that he was a casualty of the war. Decades later, however I'm sure he drank to fend off the demons from his time there. (If that is what gave him cirrhosis). I'm sorry for your loss.
2 likes@5 Maybe you should try having PTSD
9 likes@5 get a brain boi
1 likeRip
1 likeshould have stayed home instead of participating in a war that his own countrymen started on the other side of the world, so...
0 likes@bongji slevin well there was conscription
2 likesI feel so bad for all the Veteren who lose their lives because of the wars. I still don’t understand why America sent its people to war in a foreign country, Vietnam, Iraq. Many said the reason was oil and gas resources, and they said, "I serve the country". THAT'S NOT EVEN YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT YOUR WAR!! Is it for humanity?? I don't think so! Just greedy political games of higher ranking politician.
2 likesDamn...my uncles all served in nam' one doesn't talk about his experiences and refuses to step foot in America. Im sorry about your dad and hope you're having a great day.
1 like@ZevFei I agree!
0 likes@5 Be mad at the government not the vets
1 likeWe heard stories similar to this one again and again and we know the horrors of war even though mankind stands on the brink of war again nowadays because of its bloodthirsty leaders and individual issues projected on the bogeyman. I'm sick of it.
2 likes6:13 Andrew absolutely adored that animal just like Jennifer’s father loved that baby
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yeah, I love my Mercedes too
4 likesReally powerful video on the sad aftermath of war and how fucked up our justice system is.
0 likesYoo I know about this case it happened close to me I been to place of the accident. Veteran got executed but he really didn't deserve it. . I remember watching the dash cam footage about it. You could hear the officer screams . Shit sucks for both parties. Crazy you reviewing this case
0 likesAs an Iraq War combat vet, I felt this video. I was wounded in action in 07 and medically retired from the Army in 2010. It has been a struggle. I too have pretty severe PTS, depression, anxiety, nightmares, hyper vigilance. In patient and out patient treatment programs. Homelessness and self destructive behaviors. The only thing that has kept me from totally spiraling is my daughter. I hold it together most days. Go to group therapy at the vet center once a week(not during covid though). I see a psychiatrist and psychologist semi regularly. Maintaining some kind of connection with fellow vets on a regular basis has helped a lot. Only others that have been there, get it. I feel so deeply for the 22 veterans a day that take their own lives. The demons of these wars never cease. We have to stay vigilant and keep pushing forward. Especially for our families that have seen us struggle and in many cases, struggled right along with us. If anyone needs an ear, feel free to reach out and message me, veteran or not. A little empathy and compassion goes a long way, especially in these times the elitists are trying so hard to divide us.
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you seem like a good person.. never give up and know that you will make it no matter what.. keep on going strong!
26 likesI'm just some random stranger online but I wish nothing but the best for you bro. I can't imagine how mentally scarring war must be but I hope on those hard days you push through and that you and your daughter can share wonderful moments together.
35 likesMy fiancé could use someone to talk to. He’s in the Marines, and served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wakes up from nightmares, in cold sweats, grasping his gun. He’s speaking to a therapist, but I don’t know if it’s beneficial. Thank you for reaching out to others, in an attempt to help. That speaks a lot to your character.
21 likesbless you and keep doing your healing x
4 likesGod is the answer to everything brother thank you for your service!
3 likesI'm here to listen if u need to talk.
5 likesThank you for your service
5 likesNot a vet or anything but depression and anxiety suck (I know from experience), so I get it's tough. I'm really glad you've got a great support system that seems to be helping. Wishing you the best <3
4 likesSo sad you had to pay your well being and probably more, for an unjust disgusting war!
3 likesI don't thank anyone for holding a gun. So no thanks here.
I just hope you get well.
Thank you for your service. I truly hope you can find the healing you deserve.
3 likesGod Bless you Sir!
3 likesi wish you the best!:)
3 likesYou sound so strong! Keep going mate!!
3 likesThe fact you are working on it like you are describing is a testament of your strength. I have suffered from ptsd for 16 years, only not war related wich is a blessing. It was untreated for as long as I have been in treatment. Thankfully I found a psychiatrist who eventually helped me. I now have been "cured", or how you like to call it. I now have to live with the fact that im a 13 year old emotionally and I'm a complete weirdo to others with how I act and think. The things your describing I know all to well just other triggers. It's a difficult fight and I hope you may one day find your peace back and enjoy the feeling of freedom. Keep doing what gives you strength and enjoyment, give yourself a slack sometimes and try see the ridiculousness in things that might normally irritate you and laugh it away. That's what I did to lighten things up a little, how ever hard it was sometimes. But most importantly don't ever give up, you are worth it!
4 likesThank you for your service and god bless
3 likesThank you for your service sir. Stay well and bless you and your family.
3 likestalking to other vets helps me alot. Its the only time I feel sane tbh!
2 likesThis dudes comment about peopld thinking they understand it all because they saw some news footage really resonated with me.
Thanks for reminding me I have tinnitus 👀 lol
0 likesThank you for your service 💗 you are incredibly strong
2 likesMy daughters have helped me a bunch as well brother.
2 likesI teared up reading this. First off let me say, thank you for your service. The best way to treat PTSD and the vet problems in this country is to stop with the needless wars over commodities. I pray that you continue to get the help you need and you soon find peace.
0 likesAnyone needing help and wants to play madden or fifa or Mario kart or racing games lets use it as therapy
2 likesI wish you luck. i find the psychological differences of ptsd from people that enlisted vs people that were drafted very interesting.
1 likeSorry, but I'll save my empathy for the civilians in Iraq who's country YOU chose to invade and burn down. Trust me, the children in Iraq are by far more traumatised, depressed, anxious and have nightmares and so are their families. Had you not been involved in Iraq I genuinely would have empathized you but in this case I'll save it for those who deserve it. I don't empathize invaders. I hope your daughter never experiences what the daughters in Iraq experience.
5 likes@Anonymous i did not realize its a compitition
1 like@Joseph Freeman I never said it was a competition. Either you're deliberately straw manning my position or you are incapable of reading basic English. Which one is it? When someone invades and terrorizes your home, tears it down, kills your family I don't think you'll empathize him either if he claims he's 'traumatised' by being wounded.
3 likes@Anonymous your bias is showing so hard lmao
1 likeThank you for your service for Israel
0 likesTrashPanda - (plz excuse me, English is not my native language, no offence ment wheni choose the wrong words)✊ Keep it up. There will be ups and downs. The pain never leaves but you learn to live with it.
0 likesI hope you can let go of the feeling of injustice. As you unfortunately have experienced the world is’nt fair. It’s hard and brutal.
When we try to understand those evil and absurd things we might lose ourselfs.
I hope you can supervicialy enjoy the enormous beauty life also offers like your daughter.
Nobody’s expecting miracles from you, you already have put more weight in than asked for.
You’ve given everything and that is more than the average dad/family member does. Be proud.not off the position you are in but off what you did and endured 2 get there.
Don’t ever feel guilty for accidentaly exposing her and other loved ones to your doubts and monsters as long as you work on fighting those monsters.
People who love you will see your fight, all be it with ups and downs.
Much respect from the Netherlands.
Thank you for serving
1 like@Joseph Freeman Tell me, if someone invaded and terrorized your home how would you feel towards them?
0 likes@Kenneth Joseph I know right?😂💀🔥💀🔥
0 likesThanks for sticking it out brother. I went to iraq after you. With the help of my girl, family, and veteran friends I managed to turn my life around. I hope you're able to do the same. I get sad sometimes but I look at the name on my bracelet and I know he would want me to keep going. It wasn't for nothing if we take our experience and use it to make life better for those who cannot.
1 like11b, 25th ID
Bless your heart. And may your country learn from the destinies of those it has failed.
1 like@Anonymous your comment reflects more on you than the op. very interesting actually
2 likesThank you for your service.
0 likes@Anonymous its the fact you felt the need to tell someone their ptsd is not valid. cant believe i need to explain that to you. you have never felt real pain and it shows
2 likes@Anonymous tldr these are not mutually exclusive events
0 likes@Joseph Freeman The fact you still cower away from my questions says it all. Honestly,thank you for furthering proving my point. Good day. ✌
0 likes@Anonymous the fact your here trying to discredit someone's ptsd says it all.
2 likes@Anonymous u definitely did not understand mutually exclusivity lol
0 likes@Anonymous I said tldr cmon lol
0 likes@Anonymous I don't think u know what tldr means. Loon at you writing all this crap. Lmao
2 likesTake psilocybin from magic mushrooms, it will cure you I promise
0 likesKilling to push for another man agenda is wrong. Its like your a robot being controlled and told what to do and who to kill without having your opinions weighed. The only time killing someone is appropriate, is when your protecting your family or yourself from getting killed.
1 likeMy prayers go out to you and anyone in a similar position
1 likeThank you for your service, sir! please stay strong, the world would be at a loss without a man as generous as you are to offer help to complete strangers. my heart goes out to you for what you have suffered, once again, stay strong for yourself and your girl!❤️
1 likeYou had no idea to be in Iraq though. Fyi you gave all those civilians in Iraq ptsd too
2 likesi dont even know how to start this comment but I just feel the need to tell you that you've felt things that no one should ever have to feel, physical and mental feelings that should never have to happen. and the fact that even with that you want to extend your hand for others is beautiful
1 likeI’m a veteran too who also has severe PTSD and when I say I FELT this comment
1 likeI’m not a vet but I have PTSD. It’s tough, and I feel you. I just want you to know that you are strong and resilient. You are valuable to this universe.
1 likeAre the elitists the one to send you overseas? Well didn’t you choose it yourself to go to another country and bring your “American freedom and democracy” there?
3 likes@Anonymous exactly! Are all these people insane ? saying thanks to this killer here. He chose to go to a foreign country to kill and now complains about life that he has. What about all those lives that he took?
2 likesGod bless you, sir. Hang in there. I know that you are struggling but just know that God has other plans for you.
0 likesMy uncle was a three time purple heart winner. He was a great man who worked hard to be the best version of himself possible.
0 likesThank you for your service my brother.
Hi, I hope you're okay today. May God bless you with peace
0 likesstay the course brother, hope you're good
0 likesI never understood how if the police abuse a suspect then the suspect, no matter what the crime, will result in a lesser sentence. Why would they not prosecute the officers for their crime.
6 likesi feel sad for andy he went through so much all things considered im sure he wanted the death penalty
1 likeI could listen to you all day and all night! 🖤🖤🖤
1 likeWould love to see the analysis that explains how and why the female eyewitness in the red shirt is so believable as a comparison to the guilty parties who try to come across as innocent.
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she is using a lot of body language as if she's re enacting it with her own fingers
0 likesThose boys in the late bam war had it tough. Much respect to all of you.
1 likeGovernment trains a man to kill and puts him through living hell mentally damaging him then crucified him in the court what a joke rip to both the officer and the soldier
2 likes…on the Markeith Lloyd video- the police made the man crawl to them for a good distance then jumped on him and kicked him and assaulted him ( not that he didn’t deserve it ) but when the police can pick and choose what laws they want to enforce OR ignore , that’s when all trust in the system is lost
11 likesYou know what’s also “driven into the dark and out of sight”? That he also was certainly complicit in many other murders, but that’s not convenient to bring up for this narrative due to the need to frame military service as a sort of good deed. Side note, you can be complicit in state sanctioned killing and still maintain a degree of victim hood, it isn’t binary though jingoists love to maintain it is.
0 likesTo this day that entire dimension is kept tucked as far from view as possible, because those random civilians are yet classified as “the enemy” in the American psyche. Almost all you people are seriously damaged and do not want to confront it, with so many of the architects of mass murderers who held offices then are still enjoying their retirement, and no one (outside the few ‘nutters’ in CODEPINK) actively show the least bit concerned for justice for enormous crimes if done in the name of the empire.
Moral of the story: War is not fun in any way, and absolutely ruins people and nations. I am deeply sorry for anyone who may have suffered from its aftereffects.
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It's fun for the pollies. I can almost guarantee that
12 likes@Hank Hardigan Well.. it nearly only come down to who has more money. Why don't comparise the bank statemant and one accept his defeat?
2 likesFun fact. I'm German.
Right as the video I started thinking: Wtf were we doing in Vietnam? Didn't it start with something about France?
14 likes@Jacob walker Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia were originally known as French Indochina, and apart of the French Colonial Empire, Vietnam was briefly occupied by Japanese forces during WW2, and afterwards, Vietnamese sentiment became fiercely nationalistic and communistic, with a guerilla force known as the Viet Minh fighting a war with the French in what became known as the First Indochina War, started in 1946 and ending in 1954.
16 likesBecause of the political situation surrounding the Cold War, Vietnam ended up divided into two parts much like North and South Korea, the formerly French backed puppet monarchy and provisional government formed South Vietnam in opposition to communism and received tremendous backing by NATO and NATO-Allied forces, including France, Australia, The Republic of Korea, Japan and perhaps most important of all; The United States of America. South Vietnam however had an extremely tumultuous political history of assassinations, corruption, intrigue and even a coup, which saw it transition from a republic, to a unitary republic, to a military dictatorship, back to a multi-party republic then finally settling as a Dominant-Party (One party is supreme over others) republic before losing the war to North Vietnam.
North Vietnam, as you can guess or already know, was a communist government that received backing from the USSR, China and North Korea.
Perhaps the catalyst for the Vietnam war, (or as it is also known, as the Second Indochina War) was the beginning of the Viet Cong, a North Vietnam backed insurgency in the south of mostly rural populations who were disgruntled by the oft times repressive South Vietnamese government (Mind you, North Vietnam certainly wasn't any less repressive towards it's citizens), this only escalated when the South Vietnam government refused to do the reunification vote in 1956 for various factors, including the factor that they feared reunification would lead to a popular vote to turn the country into a communist government.
From it's onset, the South Vietnamese received tremendous support from various NATO and NATO-Allied countries, from money, to infrastructural aid, to weapons and military training, NATO and NATO-Allied countries, led by the USA, feared a domino effect in Asia, they feared that if North Vietnam took over South Vietnam, that it would lead to neighboring Asian countries to also fall to Communism and then those countries would also influence their neighbors towards Communism. Strictly speaking, this Domino effect did happen and also didn't happen, neighboring countries did experience communist insurgency, though these were not directly caused by North Vietnamese victory in the Vietnam war but began more or less concurrently from Chinese support and didn't lead to the great Commie-Dominated Asia that many paranoid Generals and Politicians predicted, unless you count Chinese aggression in the 21st century, but that's a little unrelated to the direct topic.
A lot of the escalation actually began under JFK's presidency, whose presidency largely inherited the policies of Eisenhower and Truman, but had significantly more problems and noticeable events; The failed Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, the construction of the Berlin Wall, the Cuban missile crises, the Vienna conference with USSR leader, negotiations and settlement between Western-backed government of Laos and the communist insurgents they had there, Kennedy became determined to draw a line in the sand and prevent further expansion of communism, though he was against deploying US troops in Vietnam, he asserted that Ngo Dinh Diem (President of South Vietnam at the time) and the South Vietnamese government, would need to defeat communism on their own, except... He made sure they would have an upper hand by increasing financial support for the South Vietnam government.
Eventually, the amount of money that was poured into Vietnam grew so much that pulling out of the situation became unthinkable, but it would be after JFK's assassination, and under Lyndon B Johnsons administration, that would see the first combat troops in Vietnam, largely stirred by the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident saw North Vietnamese torpedo boats intercept and attack a US Navy Destroyer off the coast of North Vietnam, though the destroyer was only slightly damaged (and the North Vietnamese torpedo boats completely destroyed) it was seen as an example of Communist aggression that was worthy of military response, added onto a second reported attack two days later (which was later revealed to be fantasy) led the US to launching retaliatory airstrikes on North Vietnam, and congress pass the Gulf of Tonkin resolution which granted the president power "to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression", this allowed LBJ to expand the war in Vietnam but made a pledge saying he would not be "committing American boys to fighting a war that I think ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land", never the less, the bombing campaign continued as Operation Rolling Thunder, Operation Flaming Dart and Operation Arc Light, meant to try and convince the North Vietnamese to cease their support of the Viet Cong insurgency in the south, between March 1965 and November 1968, Rolling Thunder deluged the north with a million tons of missiles, rockets and bombs, airstrikes increased in 1965 when an American army base in Pleiku was attacked by the Viet Cong, US ground troops first entered Vietnam in 1965, originally to defend Da Nang airfield, and from there, US ground troop numbers only steadily increased, with the truest commitment to an US war in Vietnam (which sidelined the ARVN) coming from General William Westmoreland who said "I am convinced that U.S. troops with their energy, mobility, and firepower can successfully take the fight to the NLF (Viet Cong)" and laid out a three phase plan to defeat the Viet Cong, and marked the USA's departure from a defensive war to an aggressive one:
Phase 1. Commitment of U.S. (and other free world) forces necessary to halt the losing trend by the end of 1965.
Phase 2. U.S. and allied forces mount major offensive actions to seize the initiative to destroy guerrilla and organized enemy forces. This phase would end when the enemy had been worn down, thrown on the defensive, and driven back from major populated areas.
Phase 3. If the enemy persisted, a period of twelve to eighteen months following Phase 2 would be required for the final destruction of enemy forces remaining in remote base areas
President Johnson, despite his earlier pledge, approved of the plan, and larger numbers of US ground troops were deployed to take the fight to the Viet Cong, the rest goes into the Vietnam War itself, rather than how it started and why Americans were there.
Gay/Feminine take
2 likes@Mordred C Excellent post! Informative. Thank you for taking the time to do that.
6 likes@Amber L No problem. I think it's important to understand the context of war, plus it's a subject I enjoy talking and reading about. Vietnam is often cited as an example of pointless war, perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, that's a debate that still goes on, but public perception of war has changed radically over the years.
7 likesIn medieval times, War was seen as a good thing, that's not too say everyone was war mongering, but people were much more desensitized to it, did not treat loss of human life as heavily as we do now, and war actually had a several benefits to medieval societies.
When World War One was declared, people cheered, made jokes and laughed, soldiers early in the war called temporary cease fires to play soccer, but being one of the first examples of modern conflict, the horrors of trench warfare, the devastation to the countryside and it's cities, the massive and seemingly never-ending loss of life over literal meters of ground made people so horrified of war that WW1 was literally called "The War to end all Wars".
So it was, then when WW2 was declared, in stark contrast too when WW1 was declared, people didn't laugh and cheer, they cried.
At it's beginning, deploying ground troops to Vietnam had overwhelming public support from the American people, it was seen as a war for freedom that wouldn't last long because the enemy was poorly equipped insurgents, but being one of the first conflicts that was regularly recorded and aired on television (as well as being one of the first conflicts involving modern guerilla warfare) the mounting carnage, both to US troops and to the Vietnamese civilian population (Who suffered a great many atrocities by both sides) quickly changed public perception as people learned and coped with the realities of modern warfare, a reality which clashes with the perceptions they held previously.
You pretty much see this every few decades, as a younger and more ignorant population replaces the older one.
@Mordred C I still think it's baffling that the gulf of Tonkin incident was just made up by American government to start the war. All those innocent lives could have been saved...
4 likes@Steven Goodman The Gulf of Tonkin incident wasn't made up, that's a common myth, North Vietnamese torpedo boats did attack a US Navy Destroyer.
6 likesIt was on August 4th, the "second attack" where US destroyers reported they were under attack when they picked up false radar and sonar signals, they maneuvered, fired at nothing, and reported two torpedo boats sunk.
People assume the first attack was fantasy since the second attack was literally just shooting at ghosts, but that isn't the case, North Vietnamese torpedo boats intercepted and attacked a US Navy Destroyer on August 2nd
@Alysa Goose literally a woman lmao
0 likes@JewFinder doesn’t matter?
4 likes@JewFinder what? I thought you were replying to Jayant Chaudhari saying that that you were a woman and couldn’t be an incel, I got the situation wrong 😅
4 likesWar..... It's fantastic.
0 likes@bill car this guy gets it
0 likesThe moral of the story was that the medium of video can easily manipulate you into thinking whatever the person making the video wants you to think.
4 likes@Hugin Based take.
0 likes@Mordred C thank you, sir
2 likesI am as well. Prayers and blessing upon all those who’ve suffered. We agree. We believe. We receive. Amen 🙏🏾
2 likes@Hugin not THAT necessary, but it's just inevitable I think. there will always be wars in any forms.
2 likesso it's better to be prepared.
@bill car have you ever been in a war?
0 likes@Deep Space I have.
0 likes@Gabriel Bido war has always been fought over money and power. It was never beautiful, or glorious, and conquest isn't noble. Wars of liberation maybe have some aspect of righteousness to them, but even then, they are fought only because of previous wars of occupation.
0 likesYou are romanticising a past that never existed.
@Gabriel Bido nah, war is the same as it ever was. Again, you're fetishising an imagined past. The only thing that's different now is the weapons.
0 likesWar has always been a means for the wealthy to hoard more wealth, using the blood of the people. No glory in that, whatever the propaganda says.
@Gabriel Bido My first degree is in medieval history. I also won't be engaging with you anymore, as it's clear some other ideology has rotted your brain.
0 likesYou do amazing content. Thank you.
1 likeThis is your best work after watching all of them a couple of times. Loved it.
0 likesIt never ceases to amaze me how cops get so emotional over another cops death but couldn't care less when a cop murder us.
2 likesThey beat and assault this guy for killing a cop but they don't beat up and assault other cops for murdering any of us.
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It was kinda scary how long he went without medical attention too. He asked like what? At least three times? He deserves to be in jail but the cops were severely out of line
0 likes@Adiel Esdras where in the hell did i say he deserved respect? Bc he certainly does not. And i never said the wife didnt deserve respect but what good is arresting him if he dies from his wounds? Cant charge a dead man and do you know the uproar that would make?
0 likesHad goosebumps the whole video. Such a tragic event
0 likesI'm so confused. This is like some of the best content on YouTube, yet no ads and not even a patreon link. what is going on here?🧐
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The guy is a vet, and suffering from severe PTSDs....
9 likes@Junayd Ir CMM Beats isn't confused about the video. Confused as to why there is no patreon link (support the creator) or any ads (support the creator).
82 likesI'd guess it has to do with the output being so sporadic. Money making channels churn out content several times a week, and don't have "questionable" content. I really enjoy the insights on interrogation.
33 likesHe did have a Patreon and I was a patron of his for ages, it is insane how much content he's made that just isn't on this channel. I'd wager he's made close to 100 videos, yet there are only 18 on the channel. He's since stopped putting extra videos on his Patreon, if it's even active still.
30 likes@Alix Saunders oh wow! man, I bet that's some great content! Did they ever share about themselves, like why they made the videos, how they were qualified to dissect them? I always imagined that the creator was some sort of professor/trainer in criminal psychology/forensics/ police and the videos were made for that purpose.
8 likesYou’re the guy who tells teacher they forgot homework
12 likes@Alix Saunders so what's his patreon?
1 likeMaybe it's because of exactly that.
5 likesNo adds, no patreon.
Just pure informational content given to you without someone benefitting from it financially.
Many of those youtube creators who MADE you believe that they are poor, or struggling, ect are actually just content grifters who view their channel as a money making machine.
Stop acting like you own anyone anything. You don't.
@Alix Saunders Its still active, they removed alot of stuff though.
0 likesI think that due to the nature of the content, YouTube decided no to monetize it, but I could be mistaken.
7 likesI would love to support you through patreon
1 like@Ian D Patreon has been doing content purges. I wonder if his was also purged.
2 likes@Junayd Ir what the.....
0 likes@Alix Saunders they* JCS is a group of people
1 likeTheres some seriousness in this video, this could be used to teach detective and crime psychology students..
0 likesAll the characters went to jail. Lol
0 likesBased
0 likesNot in this video because the content is sensitive and it gives warning before watching. The other videos have ads or at least I get multiple ads a video.
2 likesThere are no ads because the video contains copyrighted music. This channel normally runs loads of ads (and that’s fine) but the music blocks them for this specific video.
1 like@Ian D what is the patreon channel with the older stuff please?
0 likes@sonja it was just to titled "Jim Can't Swim" but I tried to subscribe to them again and patreon isn't letting me.
2 likesHe is doing it for hobby/fun
0 likesFor this video at least, it is age restricted and can't have ads on it
0 likesThat cop being like, "I'm not afraid of you" when the guy was beaten up, in handcuffs, and surrounded by armed cops was kind of funny though. Not really the tuff flex he thought it was.
6 likesthose last words man, spoken like a man who has been through hell. rest both of their souls. terrible tragedy
0 likesIt's a shame this doesn't have the same amount of views as the rest of the channel's videos. Awareness does help.
0 likesThe day won't come when the last line doesn't snap me to pieces.
Unfortunately this story isn't unique. I've gone to enough funerals and know enough guys busted up inside. We're not a statistic. We're more like litter.
I'm very fascinated how some police officers have nerves of steel while others shoot on sight
0 likesWhat am I supposed to do now that I've watched all of these videos...😭
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Watch them again
234 likesYeah just have to wait a few weeks. These take a while.
150 likesTalk to me lol
67 likes@austin s Hahahaha I see you
44 likesDouble Dose
45 likesWhat’s up what’s up ? What’s your thoughts on 2020
I’m anti mask anti communist pro freedom patriot
From Canada 🇨🇦
You find other things to watch for a bit, then make sure to come back and rewatch. While eagerly awaiting the next episode!
21 likes@Barklord There are plenty of cases still out there this channel hasn't talked about...
35 likesKnot a 20 miles long scarf. Bingewatch, Fascinating Horror. The guy's voice is great and the topics are well fascinating.
12 likesWatch Fascinating Horror. Great stories and the guy's voice is great.
15 likesSame
1 likeI've been binging these videos all day 😭
11 likesGo to college for criminal psychology and put these skills to use.
17 likesGod that sucks dont it
2 likesCreate your own story. Maybe he'll cover it and we can watch it together after you get bailed out 🙂
28 likesMurder someone and get featured?
8 likesBro!!! I’m there too!!!
3 likesGo to their Patreon page. There’s plenty others you can watch for just 1$/month. They aren't posting anymore though...still...awesome material all around
27 likeshis pateron is only 1 dollar and its amazing
11 likes@austin s LMAOOO what a funny response. if it’s not a joke then i’m genuinely concerned, though, sir.
16 likes@OblivionMike YOU ARE A SAINT FOR INFORMING ME OF THIS!!! lol I absolutely love this channel and have seen all the videos but craved more, had no idea about Patreon, so thank you!!
8 likesOh i feel the same man
1 likeWell, now you know what and what not to do if you ever find yourself interrogated
3 likesDitto. It sucks that it takes months to get a new one.
2 likesWait for more lol
0 likesGet an RV and some Petula Clark. (too soon?)
1 likeI’m about to run out this makes me scared
3 likes@Marsuru more than I week I think
0 likesSameeeeee😭😭😭😭
1 likeSame I feel so empty now 😭
1 like@OblivionMike where is it I can’t find it under The same name ?
0 likeswatch Chris Hansen to catch a predator series, these are quite fun to watch as these guys melt under uncomfortable questions
5 likesNot commit a crime
1 likewatch again
0 likesrealworldpolice channel
1 like@Willy fam it’s called jim can’t swim or Jim C Swim
2 likesSame ☠️
0 likesTry That Chapter!
10 likesIkr
0 likesOn both versions someone truly special deid
0 likesThis was my final one 😭
1 likeNot murder anyone
3 likes@rolfdenver yeah, thanks for the tip 😂
1 likeIkr!
0 likes@Simon Andrews add in make sure you sing and stand on your head on an interrogation break 🙌
1 likeI know! other channels just don’t hit the same.
2 likessame, same :'›
1 likeeven rewatched most of them
Definitely! Some crime, some police interrogation should be happening somewhere everyday.
0 likesThey ought to just livestream everything raw everyday for content.
There are more on his patreon https://www.patreon.com/jimcantswim - enjoy ;)
5 likesWatching it again is like heating up a pizza or fries its just aint the same
5 likesIKR jc needs to get on it for my selfish desires.
1 like@True crime RAW right?
0 likesSit in a dark room and rock back n forth until more come,
1 likeCheck out Matt Orchid
1 likedeadass
0 likesI love JCS VIDEOS!
2 likessameeeeee :(
0 likes@Double Dose what’s up double dose
5 likesI’m an anti imperialist, pro communist, anti fascist.
What’s ur thoughts on the third reich?
This is my last one 🥺
0 likescurrently in the same boat i can’t get enough
1 likeapply to become an interrogator and on your resume say that you watched all these videos
0 likesSame here 🤔
0 likesTruly Hunter it’s not fair... I think this is my last one😞
1 likeI feel the same way
0 likesI’m coming close to that problem
1 likeFor the record, I enjoyed your let's plays from I believe 4 or 5 years back. hope you're well.
1 like@Brandon The Destroyer I really appreciate that! I hope you're also well. I think about doing youtube again sometimes. So glad you enjoyed!
2 likes@Truly Hunter if you do, I hit that Bell already!
1 like@Brandon The Destroyer Your support means a lot! It's actually really motivating in terms of coming back.
1 likeTrue, these videos are amazing and very insightful. Can't stop watching them!
0 likes@Rob81k you salty boy
0 likesBruh... that was me just now too 😹😹 I suppose it's back to studying logic and philosophy and waiting for the next video; no matter!
0 likes@austin s I don't think anyone wants to talk anymore
3 likesJust don't assume that you're a psychologist.. 👽
1 likeOP check out True Crimes, it's a legit channel much like this one
4 likesRight there with ya
1 likeI knowwwww
1 likeHis imitation videos aren’t bad
1 likeGonna be me in another 4 hours
3 likes@Yazuto Zatsuki ooo, got em
1 likeLindybeige or Qxir
1 likelmao same
1 likeSame :(
1 likeGet the full interrogation videos and other stuff like court scenes, clsing statements and sentencing and so on. Maybe you´ll find other sources with additional information and put them together in a directory. That´s what i´m doing.
2 likesI’m now here
1 likeGo on his Patreon. Loads more
2 likesWait.....😐 I guess
2 likesI was just thinking the same thing!!!!
1 like@austin s tom green has a podcast
0 likesDeadsy Padilla what
0 likesgive him more content obviously
0 likesExactly I’ve watched all of them 😩😩😩
0 likesmaybe starring in his next ?
0 likesOmg same I’m almost done watching eveything an I’m freaking out there’s no one else in the world like him 😭😭😭🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️😂🥺
0 likesGo back to watching THE VIEW and OPRAH re-runs, dressing your cat in costumes and screaming at teenage boys for skateboarding.
0 likes@t4705mb6 So many salty boys in this comment section. I'm not sure where that came from, but are you okay?
2 likesLearn something from it
1 like@Mehki I watched all his videos and the found 'That Chapter', give it a goo!
0 likesSame lol
0 likesSame!!! I rewatch them over and over. Please make more!!!! 💚
1 likeRewatch
1 like@austin s Shout out from the U.S. brother. Glad to know there are at least SOME anti-communists in Canada. Lol
1 like@austin s I'm a pro mask eco-Marxist from Canada. Let me guess. You're an Albertan?
1 likethis one is the only one i havent seen yet
0 likesIve got 2 ore left.....big sad
1 likeJCS uk crime! It's the same commentator, let's gooo
0 likesLmfaoooo we all left this one till last 😂💀
1 likeThere's more
0 likesSame :'(....
1 like@Stompernaut lol
0 likes@Mehki the narrator's name is Kizzume. He has the best voice doesn't he?
0 likesLive in peace?
1 likeI know!
0 likesGo to sleep
1 likeI dont know. I dread that moment myself :(
1 likeIs this his real voice? How does he get it like this? Computer program?
0 likesjOiN tHe MaRiNeS
0 likes@Marsuru it’s been two months since he’s uploaded
0 likes@David Maxim Like I said. These take a while.
0 likesBecome a detective
0 likesThere is like 20 hours of really good content on his patreon and it only costs a euro
0 likesDon‘t go and shoot somebody and then try to be the perfect lier during the investigation.
1 likeWhat your supposed to do I just don‘t know.
Try: ‚Don‘t worry and be happy.‘
Support him on patreon 🤷♂️
0 likesMe right now lmao
1 likesame
0 likesWatch them over and over again
0 likesI honestly just rewatched all of them. This is one of the few channels I actually have notifications for and ironically he doesn’t even ask for it
0 likesWait about a month and watch it over
0 likesLook for a collection of vids it is pushed by a different name but they are his videos about 80 of them and can only be found through that collection
0 likesMe too 🥺 how will I go day to day without any new uploads
0 likes@semere hagos I live in the UK and we don't use the dollar
0 likesIKR!!!
0 likesGet a job
1 likenew video is up check it out
0 likesBecome a detective
0 likeslol
0 likesLife becomes meaningless 😂😂
0 likesNot sure fam squad
0 likesare watch the ones that are a bit longer you really liked, they have a amazing rewatch potential compared to typical videos. theres 3 unlisted videos you can google around for the links for that are good, and Patreon has a good bit of content too
1 likeSame 😭
0 likesI’d say you’re all set to be interrogated.
0 likesGo on Patreon to watch the rest :D
0 likesJT criminology
0 likesit's my last video too and i didn't even follow youtube algorithme ordre or any kind of order i just watched the videos randomly maybe the thumbnail has something to do with it or maybe the video short length make it looks like it's not interesting to watch the youtube warnings in the start of the video my effect the order too because i was about to watch this video earlier but because of all the warnings i kept it for last till i created a youtube account just to watch it.
0 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
1 likeWhen his next video drop its goin to be trending...watch
0 likesThere a few unlisted videos
0 likesDo what we all do: watch them again 😭
0 likesRest In Peace to everyone mentioned during this video, From the civilians of the Vietnam War. To all 3 Brennan brothers, What a world.
0 likesJCS I wanna shake your hand, in love w your channel I’m going into college for criminal justice and I can’t get enough of this mf channel, absolutely great shit 💪🏽
2 likesAn amazing and very sad production. Very well done.
0 likesThis was the hardest one for me. I have very bad complex ptsd. It effects me so much.
0 likes“I’m proud to have been able to walk point for my comrades, and pray that the exact same thing does not happen to any of them , I’m glad to be getting out of this place “
828 likesI feel bad for Andy he never left Vietnam
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Amen. May he rest easy now. 🇺🇸
19 likesMay both their souls rest in paradise.
10 likesI absolutely hate watching the video of that murder, but I don't hate poor Andy.
16 likesthe fear in that poor cops voice. i feel for him. he was just a baby :(
1 likeAs of August 12TH, I’ve watched every JSC video thus far. "The Case of Andy B." is the last of the videos that I’ve watched & it was my favorite. This video had everything. The death sentence, the Vietnam war & a cameo from Markeith Loyd.
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Well well, I thought I was alone (I literally skipped this due to the non interrogation room thumbnail) but here we both are ❤️👍
0 likes@Mohd Haffiez Mohmad Nazri It was action packed
0 likes@Vance Matthews indeed it was and at the same time, moving! Due to the fact Andy expressed his regret and sorry for the loss of life that was a result of the government own doing by programming him to kill enemies in Vietnam yet didn't reprogram hin upon return - yet no one bothered at this anymore once shown the "jolly Andy" video.
0 likesLater, it seems like a double blade thrusts to him when he was delivered the lethal injection in which he saw that as sign of the Lord's mercy to free him from his daily PTSD labyrinth.
@Mohd Haffiez Mohmad Nazri Andy B. could not unsee the Vietnam War.
0 likesI’ve been watching YouTube for 12 years now...since I was a boy... and I can honestly say this is one of the best YouTube videos I’ve ever watched.
3 likesThis made me cry for all of our veterans.
0 likesThe storytelling in this video is a masterpiece. Setting up Andy's story and then switching to info about video technology and an unrelated case with seemingly no context, then finishing with footage of Andy's confrontation to bring it all home gave me chills.
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This is the same way the MSM made the fake narrative against Trump, until a year later you find out its Hillary's lawyers and the KGB and Democratic operatives working with Comey and Brennan to stage everything and make fake wiretaps and warrants. It's all how it's presented.
1 like@Scott Johnson no one is talking about that??? Why are you bringing that into this
16 likesYes! This is one of my favourite JCS videos!
0 likesThen wraps it up when a super poppy song of peace and love playing over images of war... Just like the beginning.
1 likeJust if anyones wondering, I've watched the unedited clip JCS puts in at the end. Don't go watch it because it's unbelievably horrible. To sum up, he gets the officer, lets him plead for his life, then executes him while he's still begging
1 likeWhat an absolute tragedy. No winners, only losers. As they say "War is Hell"
1 likeThis video is one of the greatest achievements in this platforms history. Bravo.
0 likesYour videos are brilliant! Thank you.
0 likesWhen he said “I’m glad to get out of this place” right before his execution, deeply saddened me.
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Literally right in the feels
44 likesyou don't have to survive a war to feel this, just look around, who the fuck "wants" to stay longer than necessary...
104 likes@FAH Holliday if he killed your loved one, youd be like aaa thats ok, he had a bad life?
23 likesBut the death of that cop who was a father and is now gone didn't? But the pregnant mother and cop held dear by the community killed like dogs didn't? By a man who BLM defended its innocence, that does not saddened you? No, the words of a maniac, who none the less does deserve compassion, who finally is getting out of prison one way or another, that is what saddened you completely, speechless...
11 likes@Ashbrowny aze that's not what the comment was about at all. The whole story is terribly sad. Everybody in this suffered. This video is about understanding why things like this happen, not condoning or forgiving them.
100 likesMe too
1 like@KOBKED-X stop bro you’re making me sad😞
0 likesSeriously, holy fuck
0 likes@Fan Page I am unable to deactivate my empathy despite this. Life, in all its thorns and roses, was to him something to be escaped. That's absolutely brutal.
6 likes@KOBKED-X Plenty of people, And sadly those type of people that "wants" to stay longer than necessary usually are the type that would send veterans to war again to get more resources to make them sandwiches or whatever these selfish pricks wanted.
2 likesWe have lots of them here, They don't want to admit the concept of death whatsoever until their last minutes. When it's too late and all they left is a gazillion of problems that they never manage. Like How to deal with their belongings, their assets or etc., and just let other living family members fight over it. I assure you it's more f-ing depressing seeing family members going insane for how to split the assets, debts or etc. than acknowledging the death of that said person.
im not saddened by anything when it comes to this murderer. Save your sympathy for the victim. What if you had been the victim? what if you had been shot? Why don't we put ourselves in the victim's shoes a little more. NO sadness for the murderer. No sympathy. I can readily imagine him shooting me, and i feel no pity for him.
2 likes@Raphaella Victoria Yea, just look at a small picture and just put yourself in just one victims shoe. Ignore everything the veterans has suffered and potentially created more situation like this in the future. Which had happened a lot for veterans with PTSD issue.
7 likesIf my family members has been shot and killed by people like this I'd wouldn't even be mad at him. I'd rather be mad at why the system let him be a wreck like this and just leave him be.
And I don't want to be rude or victim blame. But from the video the cops just use the authority they have to control the situation, which turned to s*it. The thing is, sadly most U.S. cops would do it. They can approach it very differently, be more humble, caring more of what the person might behave since the start of traffic stop and this may not even happen in the first place.
@Raphaella VictoriaI’m thinking about both
3 likesThat hit me the hardest
1 likeI agree. Our world has failed so many.
0 likesI felt that when they quoted him saying it. Someday we will all be able to get out of this fucked up world.
0 likes@FAH Holliday but it wasn’t the cops fault though
0 likes@KOBKED-X that's such a cynical outlook Yes the world and society certainly has issues, but life is a gift.
0 likes@Fan Page revenge and justice are not equivalent. no person deserves less compassion, the struggle of life is to be better than your base impulses.
2 likes@KOBKED-X fr
0 likes@Girl Problems bullet solutions I know I'm one to ask but wtf kinda name do you have dude
1 like@Fan Page he killed someone after his brain was absolutely melted by experiences that his government put him through. they created a monster and let him loose on society. no one deserves to be turned into a monster.
1 like@Raphaella Victoria sympathy is not empathy, but clearly you have little experience with it.
1 like@FAH Holliday If any of what you said about "the system" actually mattered in the slightest Andy wouldn't have gotten the death sentence. Also this killing never would have happened if the cop simply shot him in one of the 20 opportunities he had of doing so; This is why american cops are getting more insane and trigger happy by the second, cause the good ones just die and people who dare mourn them and become irate at the injustice are called "bootlickers".
0 likes@DuckieMcduck Their point about the system still stands and Andy getting the death sentence just adds to that. Also good job pretending to give a shit about trigger happy cops when you give them justifications lol
1 likeI live in dublin which is where this happened. That was some sad shit.... everyone was talking about it. And my dad worked with him on the Laurens county sheriff dept. Honestly something like that happening in a rural hicktown was just so surreal. It's one thing to hear about this kind of stuff someplace far away. It's another to see it happen in your own hometown.
0 likes@Fan Page idk dude, this cop was trying to exercise a power trip on someone who's extremely psychologically damaged, because he was speeding. i fully believe, too, that someone who acts so crazy while conducsing a traffic stop more than likely enjoys the powertrips more often and likely has shot innocent people while escalating situations. so, yeah, acab and while i don't support killing in general, i feel sorry for the vet, who was used, traumatised, given some worthless "medals" and then abandoned by the state, in spite of suffering from severe psychological damage.
0 likes@Fan Page I know. We can't assume who are guilty, the police or the vet.. but.. his words resonates to me. I saw so many horrible and wrong things in this world. So many injustices. So many crimes unreported (from minor things like bullying up into corruption, sex-related problems/prostitutions, child abuses, human exploitations, etc).
0 likesIf God gives me choice of being born or not at all, I'd choose not to be born on earth.
0 likesFacts
0 likes@MedaBot Learn text comprehension. Dinkheller was a good cop who didn't just fire over a speeding ticket, and that not only got him killed, it got people to pity Andy instead. The justification for cops not firing and dying in the process would, at the very least, be the offer of sympathies, but Americans can't even do that. So of course American police is just going to become brutal; no sane person would risk their lives defending the ungrateful, those who try to will simply die and be forgotten.
0 likesPlease upload. I’ve been recycling your content for the longest time😂💀 some of us are actually criminal psychology addicts. Thanks 🤝
8 likesLove to all veterans reading this. We can’t thank you all enough. My dad will always be my hero
2 likesYou know.... it's an unbelievable SHAME that a Man could leave home and do SO MUCH for his country, only to return and then have his country turn their backs on him.
0 likesGranted, that kid did NOT deserve what he got but it's unfortunately, understandable how things led to transpire in that order.
With respect to the police officer...
1 likeAn American GI is an apex fighter. The movements, the tactics. It's brutal to see. How he ducks and wobbles during the shoot out and then charges when the officer retreats. Then starts aiming better when he has him pinned down, walks closer... There is no way a police training prepares you for that. Andy B. was battle hardended and he followed the textbook to the letter. The result is science. Theres no way that any of us wouldve walked away from that.
It's tragic from both ends. Both a good soldier and a good cop.
Who started with “The Wrath of Jodi” and then binge watched the entire Channel lol —
6725 likesEdit: Love the comments.
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yessir
33 likesMeee are we all here at the same time wtf
42 likesMe lol
9 likesI felt exactly this when he released his Jon Koppenhaver video. This man is too good for youtube
49 likesMe!
1 likeDid exactly that, now I have no more videos to watch....
18 likes💯 kid. Nothin but net
2 likesThat's exactly what i did. I was hooked.
2 likesExactly me
0 likesStarted watching this channel way back, the quality of this channel is chef's kiss amazing.
11 likesGlad to see people enjoy this channel just as much :)
Me
0 likesYour late to the party man!
2 likesI did that today.
0 likesI started with Jennifer's solution 😌
15 likesMe
0 likesSame here!!! This is the best channel hands down on Youtube
3 likesSame
0 likesI started with Stephanie.
2 likesMe!
0 likesI started off with the Legend of Jeff
10 likesYup
0 likesbro sameeeeeeee
0 likesMe... and it an exam season right now..
3 likesAt first I was freaked out when I read OP’s comment, but then I realized that at least some of us must have come from TikTok. Lol
0 likesShit because of Jodi I named my dog "Doggie boy". Nobody yet has figured it out.
4 likesIf your OG you started with his deleted YT clips then watts and so on o.O
1 likeMe. In four days.
1 like@Zinnia Segura me too! I don't live too far from Markham so it peaked my interest. I was hooked to this channel since
1 likeAnd i am not sorry for it!
0 likes@Keinlieb lesson learned: Lazarus is basically the most terrifying woman walking on this planet.
1 likeI started with the guy who killed his wife and chikdten
0 likesI wanna be a detective now
2 likesstarted with "the legend of jeff" here but i am very happy you did watched the entire channel even though its not mine, the work that is put into these videos is absolutely exemplar, cant say its the best youtube channel because i dont know them all but i can safely say its up there with the best... cheers
2 likesI did that with Jennifer’s solution
0 likesApparently I'm an OG. The Watts one I think
0 likesJCS needs a documentary channel, this is one of the best channels I listen to
1 likeYup!!!
0 likesOmg i did lol
0 likesThere were twice as many materials on this channel, but he transferred them to the Parteon. I've been here before;)
0 likesHe gotta make more ASAP
1 likeI've been here since the videos were called "Most compelling police interrogations". I've been hooked on this guys content for so long
0 likesHere lad
0 likes🙋🏻♀️
0 likesYeep
0 likesworkin on it
0 likesI actually first watched his Stephanie Luzanus (or something like that lol) video and couldn’t stop binge watching his videos ever since.
0 likesI started with the videos that had like 3 or 4 different interrogations, sadly they were taken down but they were amazing, this channel grow very fast and in very happy for that
0 likesI got here awhile ago. Don’t know when, but I make absolutely certain to watch every single episode the second it comes out. This guys content is too fucking good. Well research, well articulated material, and well presented.
0 likesSorry mate legemd of jeff
0 likesmeee
0 likesI have nothing more to watch :(
2 likesYesss lol
0 likesYesssss
0 likesYep.....
0 likesYep, that’s pretty much how it went down.
0 likesOnly 18 videos 🤕 im a little sad
1 likeFriends of the algorithm, this our meeting point.
1 likeNo, was in before that...
0 likesSame
0 likesMe
0 likesbruhhhh
0 likesMe.
0 likes:D
0 likesI think after one dose of JCS everyone gets hooked.
0 likesMe, and now im binge watching again
1 likeI’m Starting here and moving backwards apparently LOL
1 likeHere here
0 likesYeehaw brother
0 likesUntil I got to casey Anthony...got so frustrated I skipped most that one. Watched the rest though. Still cant believe casey Anthony got off. She went on to marry? Or date n live with her defense attorney who got her off too.....2 peas in a pod.
1 likeThe exact same thing happened to me! Watched everything, this channel is pure gold man!
0 likesyesss
0 likes🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️
0 likesyup, and now I am going to fail college
0 likesLiterally everyone here
0 likesCasey Anthony
0 likesme
0 likesI've been watching since first upload
0 likesFR
0 likes"Innocent until proven guilty" here my man.
0 likesBruh
0 likesAs Stephen would say .... yes
0 likesRight here, pal ✋
0 likesYes
0 likesMe 👌🏻
0 likesOmg me rn! Started with the Wrath of Jodi, have this one and one more to go! My life feels so dark rn, i need to get out of my room... ok, one more episode🚶♀️
0 likesMe
0 likesFor sure watching every single video on this Channel
0 likesI started with Stephen McDaniel..but yeaaaaa binged em all right after..his commentary is superb his grammar so perfectly placed as if we were thinking exactly the same thing as the video progresses...just a remarkable and well educated individual
0 likesCant remember which video started but the binge was real.
0 likesSammeeeee
0 likesStarted with guilty until proven innocent
0 likesThe legend of “Jeff”
0 likesReverse for me, I've seen the whole channel but didn't finish that one yet
1 likeYark😂💯
0 likesI remember watching the case of the guy who strangled his wife and kids, Idr his name but every since then I've been watching Jim can't swim
0 likescan someone explain connection of 2 stories?
0 likes@black cat ?
0 likes@dr.mad_ there are 2 stories in video right one is of army guy and other is who killed his pregnant gf? now i am confused how they are related ?
0 likesNah I watched one maybe a year ago but the jodi one popped up and I'm so glad it did.
0 likesI watched the asian chick who killled her parents but jodi vid made me binge watch all the vids
0 likesI started 1 1/2 Years ago with The Watts Case...watching him eversince
0 likesHOW DID U KNOW lulz
0 likesWell, I remember jodi from Nancy grace back in 2013 or whenever. I started with the fuzzy haired news guy
0 likesi started with his new pretending to be crazy video
3 likesExactly this, it's 7 AM, I haven't slept, jeez
0 likesI did! :-)
0 likesI think I lost my JCS virginity on either the Dreja or Rafforty case...
0 likesOne of thee best channels ever created
0 likesYep
0 likesDamn it ... yes
0 likesI got here from Jennifer's Solution
0 likes#metoo
0 likesDamn I started with what pretending to be crazy looks like! Haha
2 likesAs my grandpa would say: sup pahtner
0 likesExactly
0 likesI started with jennifers solution and binged lol
0 likesYup
0 likesThis guy
0 likesLol getting there, I'll have to chart my phone a few more times before completion.
0 likesWow
0 likesi watched the bizarre case of stephen mcdaniel and now i’m here lol
0 likesRight here gotta keep track of all demons in human bodies and keep each other safe let’s do this
0 likesBro fr same
0 likesI started with what pretending to be crazy looks like
1 likereddit momment
0 likesI didn't, i started with the video about people pretending to be insane.
1 likeIM NOT NOT ONLY ONE?!
0 likesI started with the legend of jeff🤘
0 likesstarted w Nikolas Kruz
1 like@AnEchoOfThingsToCome right here with you bud
0 likesyep!
0 likesthats how good this is
0 likesYup. Just did that. I should have been asleep like 3 hours ago. It's gonna be a tough day at the construction site.
0 likeswe need more +
0 likesActually i started with the one about people faking the insanity defense, then watched all the rest
2 likesStarted with the new Nikolas Cruz video...and then binge watched the whole channel.
0 likesSame! I’ve binged all of the vids lol this is the last one until he uploads another one 😢
1 likeI started with the video of faking insanity
0 likeshaha yessiiiiirr same here lmao
0 likesI started with Lee
0 likesDon't help advertise reddit. It is pure cancer.
0 likesme
0 likesI actually was his most recent one regarding faking insanity. But wrath of Jodi was my second video
0 likesThe “pretending to be nuts” one got me started.
0 likesi binged jcs like 4 times already
0 likesI'm more recent, started with the guy pretending to be insane, seen almost all of the now :)
2 likes"me sitting here doing the same exact thing" only have like one video left.
0 likesHi, i would like you to stop narrating my actions thanks. <3
0 likesI started with the Dalia one.
0 likesThis POV is so accurate I’m considering filing a restraining order
1 likeThink I started woth Micheal Drjeka. The Jodi, and now I'm rewatching again
0 likesI started with the guy pretending to be insane
0 likesyes
0 likesFacts! Now obsessed
0 likes@AngryPenguin20 lol — I guess Travis Alexander shoulda done the same
1 likeNooo kap
0 likesI started with guilty until proven innocent, which in my opinion is the best video on the channel, because it has a much higher analsys and breakdown than any other in the channel, even being the shortest video.
0 likesSAME
0 likesLol
0 likesWTF HAHAHA same
0 likescasey anthony case ... fcking ending , i thought she wont get death sentence but lifetime jail. I was literally like WHAT THE FYYYYCK
0 likesI started with Jennifer. I loved that baby
0 likesMe too lol. I've been watching for 2 days now
0 likesSame its crazy
0 likesI should be doing and engineeringing project. -_-
0 likesi started with what pretending to be crazy looks like
0 likesI started on what pretending to be crazy looks like
0 likesEveryone here
0 likesYep yep 👍
0 likesThat’s as my second 😭
0 likesI'm on a second round after watching all of these exactly a year ago. It just got recommended again, so yeah.
0 likesI started on "this is what pretending to be crazy looks like", havent yet stopped
0 likesThis is so sad because as someone who has ptsd I understand how hard it is. This just seems so terrible
0 likesThat cop yelled so much and so long. He could have taken that guy down without killing him multiple times. His refusal to shoot earlier cost him his life.
1 likeI just found this channel and I'm hooked .. dam you are truly talented with you're content..most definitely subbed
0 likesWe're the unwilling led by the unqualified doing the unnecessary for the ungrateful.
4 likesWritten in the lighter of an anonymous soldier.
My highschool AP chemistry teacher was a Vietnam veteran.
424 likesHe was talking about the war one day and a student asked him if he ever killed anyone, he lost it and kicked the student out of the class. I felt real bad on how that question got to him.
Later that year one of our classmates committed suicide. He shared the story of how he overcame the suicide of his brother, who was also a Vietnan Veteran and suffered from severe PTSD.
One of the best humans I have ever met
RIP Harold Potter
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@Sufuurin It's just morbid curiosity. May be distasteful but the question is on the mind of 90% of civilians when they are having a conversation with someone who has deployed.
45 likesIt is basically human nature to be interested and enquire about destruction. Jim talked about that in one of his videos.
His name was Harry Potter?
32 likesHarold Potter bruh
5 likesThis is the best back story ever when does Hogwarts come in?
12 likes@Erium This was the first thing I thought and I instantly felt bad. I'm glad I wasn't alone.
2 likes@Tu Yau this question is very intriguing. Why do you ask?
1 likeI went to a Dodds school, and a kid asked our shop teacher if he could build the guy a new leg. The teacher started crying quietly and said we were dismissed. Some kids were laughing and some weren't but I'll never forget how quiet he was the rest of the year. It was like that one comment destroyed years of work he had done healing however he lost his leg
5 likesMy dad was in the military and as a really young child I asked if he had killed anyone and in an instant he said “Don’t you EVER ask someone that’s question.” I don’t know what my dad has been through tbh and he doesn’t seam like his time in the army has affected him at all, but I do understand how serious of a question that is..
2 likesLiar
0 likes@Jan Michael Vincent You are very right. There are many combat vets who are perfectly fine with talking about it. And many who are proud about it because they trained hard to do that job. Most vets for example never have PTSD no matter what they go through. Part of that is good training. Many stories about vets getting flashbacks and violently acting out tend to be false because real PTSD isn't like that. It is closer to either things like survivors guilt (thinking that some action could have made a bad situation better) or just a trained reaction that causes the wrong response in a safe setting (for example being wary of a person running up to you, even though they might just be on a jog). One big example I can think of right now is some vets having issues with their wives because in the military they are used to straightforwardness, but in a married relationship things are less direct and you need more sensitivity than is necessary. Keep in mind, many guys getting out of the military joined when they were a teen, so when they first get out they really don't know how to be an adult other than an adult in the military. It is why so many vets can get scammed or taken advantage of.
1 likeProblem is the media and misguided civilians think PTSD is some kind of mind controlling situation. Other issues is anti-war people who can't spit on vets anymore due to the cultural stigma after 9/11, now choose to exaggerate PTSD as a way to try and bring vets down, saying things like "poor you, you fought for nothing", even though everyone who has actually seen regular combat knows that the fighting overseas isn't pointless because everyone saw the real consequences of what happens when you don't address threats, and these consequences are rarely aired to the public without some kind of spin.
Watching the footage at the end reminded me of when I first heard about this case through a song, “I just killed a cop and now I’m horny” by JPEGMAFIA. The intro uses the audio of the dash cam and I remember just being so shocked and shaken knowing it actually happened in real life.
2 likesThis scares me about the potential consequences of going to war. I don't want to be mentally altered to the point I completely lose myself.
0 likesProps to that eyewitness. Her recall is fucking phenomenal. Good for her for not falling into the old adage of "snitches get stitches". Thank you, ma'am. Testimony like hers is a dime a dozen.
0 likesImagine you were addicted to Jim’s videos and watched them all. You thought you watched all but just saw that you missed one??? That’s me now😂
0 likesTo the person who makes these videos:
703 likesWhat you do is of very high quality. These videos are incredibly thought provoking, heart wrenching and informative on many levels. Thank you for sharing your form of art. Many thanks.
-Jordan from Canada
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The man the myth the legend Jim Can’t Swim !
3 likes@SLYCOOP2 its more than one person who makes the JCS vids
5 likesYes Many thanks 🙏🏾
0 likesHey Jordan from Canada. I'm Jordan, from Canada. And I couldn't agree with you more.
3 likesEloquent, kind, honest, Jordan, from Canada, comment under a psychology video... Professor Peterson, is that you? :D
0 likes@Kristóf Mályinkó Alas, while I am opinionated and articulate to a certain degree... I am not Jordan Peterson. Thanks anyways!
0 likesAnd now we live in an era where EVERYBODY thinks they know EVERYTHING simply from watching youtube videos 😂😂
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Everybody? So you're including yourself?
6 likesI have complex ptsd after being attacked. After it first happened I developed psychosis. I didn’t know what that was and I literally lost my mind. Within months I was hearing voices, trying to kill myself and had lost touch with all reality. Following a year of this I was admitted to hospital and medicated. The psychosis slowly faded but is still there. Without medication, the psychosis returns. Reading this about the soldier breaks my heart. To stop medication is a symptom of many mental illnesses. He didn’t have a chance, neither did his victim. Ptsd is real, it’s tragic, it’s debilitating, it takes over your mind and you cannot escape what your mind can’t forget. I love your work. Thanks
0 likeswhen can we get such great content ever again?!
0 likesThat dash cam footage is really stomach churning hearing that Cops screams. It's safe to say Andy wanted to die.
0 likesVietnam ruined so many guys lives. And it was an unjust war.
“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.”
1923 likesthat's haunting
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Having a fiancee who is a psychiatrist, her stress levels on ex-military PTSD cases she works on daily makes her cry every night for these unfortunate soldiers that protected and served our country. I surely wouldn't be able to show her this because the one thing she needs is peace and rest to wake up everyday trying to help heal these people. :(
71 likes@VitaminDevil- G If she really cries everyday, you better get her another job. That's not healthy, however sad a thing is.
38 likes@Tri Do
105 likesThey make the soldiers believe they're doing the right thing for their country. It's indoctrination. They think they're protecting your ungrateful ass until they get over there and realize it's not what they were led to believe it was. It's not really their fault, blame the politicians that send them over there.
@kittymom2 as if politicians and their willing drones can't both be blamed.
11 likes@Oravankarva I know. I thought so too, but she cries because she cares for her patients not because she's suffering from not wanting to do it
21 likes@VitaminDevil- G they killed because of politics.
25 likesIt had nothing to do with the protection of American citizens, and they understood that too, which made them even more messed up.
Don't support the bullshit story that made them go there in the first place and then act sorry for them.
Tri Do As if the war was his fault. :(
2 likesGood, they shouldn't have gone
3 likes@M.C. M. do you really believe they were doing it for the Vietnamese people? They don't give a fck about the people. Whether it's Vietnam, Iraq Afghanistan or anywhere else they decide to invade
18 likesTri Do lets not forget that a lot of those soldiers were drafted against their will, there was nothing they could do to avoid being drafted. then they were brainwashed into thinking they were fighting for a good cause
23 likesTri Do You say that like he purposefully chose to kill innocent people... wow. Intellecc.
5 likes@mariam al said ever heared of a draft sweet cheeks
6 likes@M.C. M. The Vietnam war was the result of French imperialism, not communism. Vietnam had been under French imperialism as "French Indochina" for about sixty years. North Vietnam wanted to unite the entire country as a whole, that was their goal first and foremost. Spreading communism was really only a result of reunification. Let's not forget that there were also many Vietnamese in the south that agreed with the idea of reunification - these were the Viet Cong. North Vietnam wasn't a power-hungry authoritarian state, it was the Vietnamese trying to re-unite the indigenous population into one country free from foreign interference.
12 likesSo deep
0 likesIt really was man.
0 likes@Tri Do weren't people drafted?
1 like@mariam al said They were drafted, genius.
2 likes@VitaminDevil- G I hope she is seeing somebody for her own mental health. God bless her!
2 likesM.C. M. Why does america have to involve itself in other countries? More death
2 likes@M.C. M. American's obsession with communism will never get old
4 likesGeez, I had always skipped this video due to the absence of an interrogation room thumbnail which I'm familiar with when watching on JCS.
4 likesTurns out, this is one that's on a totally different level and perspective altogether!
The production value on this channel is amazing!
0 likesThe production value on this channel is amazing!
0 likesThis county uses its young men and then throws them away like trash. It is no wonder at all that so many of them are dysfunctional. But I suppose this footage does highlight the fact that our military is capable of creating killing machines with no skills other than bringing death upon others, and they're damn good at it. 23:05 just look at his movements. Every movement is calculated and he's constantly aware of where his weapon is pointing. There is no fear in that man's mind, not an ounce of hesitation. And we aren't doing jack sh*t about it. The government does not care. They mold these men into something that is unacceptable in civilized society, and then throw them back into it like nothing happened.
3 likesWell, that was heartbreaking. Every single second.
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I read this comment before watching and didnt think it would be because ive read about this case before but, yep... totally agree. Almost cried there at the end
2 likesTruly sad they executed a war hero , indeed.
3 likesChill Yourself They executed a war hero who executed a police officer. He was duly punished. I might feel differently if his last words show any remorse, but they were incredibly distant and cold.
3 likes@N C You're pretty distant and cold, yourself.
5 likes@N C did you even watch the episode or just look at the thumbnail and assume?
3 likes@N C what makes a police officer so special? If he'd killed a pizza delivery guy, would that be less bad?
0 likesBoy, it's a shame he got an ass whooping. I feel so bad, I might just cry a tear or two.
8 likesThe last clip with the fire fight at the truck was cut very thoughtful. In the actual clip you can hear the desperate screams of the policeman. It stuck with me for a while.
0 likes8:11 that is absurd! He obviously was heroic in combat, which resulted in his PTSD. Due to his PTSD he shot the man (not excusable, but he should not get the death sentence!)
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It's the point of this video. A case can be influenced by video. But to think about it, his suffering was done.
0 likesThat’s fucking tragic, my god. We need to do everything we can to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
0 likesseverely underrated jcs video always been one of my favorites
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It’s the Minecraft mod
35 likesSame here. JCS makes some incredibly detailed videos. Just like that guy Geo (:
26 likesGeosquare I am happy to know people from Minecraft community are also watching this god tier documentary bro
17 likesAwesome
3 likesu fell off bruh
5 likesIts not underrated its just VERY age restriced, its not on recommended page, and even if u find the video, youtube asks you twice If u wanna watch plus an ID or credit card
19 likesWell I'm seeing it all now, so hope he finds success now then
0 likes@Keira Mitchell they know
0 likesCheck out the interview of Ryan Waller. Its got an unexpected turn of events!!! JCS should do a video on him!
2 likesIts nit underrated, its unlisted, and has been put/taken of private multiple times for some reason
1 like@Raresix Also can't watch it on chromecast. I tried multiple times but it kept randomising to other vids on the channel.
3 likes@Daniel T corporate america doesn't want you seeing the disgusting atrocities committed undeniably and entirely of its own culpability. it puts the masses' blind patriotism in jeopardy.
1 likeOh hello Geosquare!
0 likesHeyyy it's the guy who caught Dream cheating but got harassed by his stans for months because they couldn't accept the idea that the man they worship could do wrong, only for Dream to admit he was a dirty cheater all along! Good to see you holding up!
4 likesFR
0 likesHow is this underrated? He has nearly 4 million subscribers and gets millions of views on his videos. He's not underrated.
0 likes@Eloines read the comment again, he said the video was an underrated JCS video, not that JCS is underrated
2 likes1.8m views is not underrated. Algorithm is just mad cause inappropro, so it doesnt get recommended to people as often as his bigger vids.
1 likeits probably so underrated bcs it was age restricted which usually means that the algorithm wont push it out to as many people as usual.
0 likeswouldn't expect too see you here, very welcome though!
0 likesalso keep up the great videos/streams!
He’s a GENIUS 🖤🖤🖤
0 likesI had skipped this one on accident forgot to go back to it not friending for a new video and rewatching old ones I stumbled upon this one and it’s like a gift haha.
1 likeI love Jeff video 😂
0 likesThe deeper you dive into the nature of warfare, the specific lives affected and how, it should be clear to any rational person that the politicians initiating such catastrophes have no regard for human life, and the supposed "humanitarian" justifications for building up a war state are completely empty.
1 likeControversial opinion - this is as true for Vietnam as it was for both WWI and WWII and all the terror wars.
If British and American politicians had heeded the warnings of their pacifist and antiwar citizenry before WWI, there would have been no Hitler and the Nazis. If they had listened to them again pre WWII and let German Jews immigrate (escape) into the US, Britain and their respective colonies they would have saved countless lives. If the US had strongarmed the British into ceasing the catastrophic blockade on Germany and the occupied countries, like those same pacifists and antiwar advocates were demanding, they would have prevented the mass starvation of so many of the Third Reich's victims. Hell if they'd just allowed American and British private charities to bring in food and elliviate the starvation of all the regular folk that had nothing to do with the actions of their evil governments - it would have made a huge difference.
Same goes for Britain starting the horrific trend in that war of conducting air raids on civilian populations, which Churchill both expected and hoped would be reciprocated onto British cities and towns (he wanted to make the citizenry "feel" the war so they might be more supportive, as well as induce the US to enter the war as Americans see British civilians getting killed by bombs and become more bloodthirsty towards Germans - it worked).
Basically the British war planners and politicians understood full well that Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and then proceeded to do everything they could to create the conditions for him to mass exterminate people (not allow refugees into their own countries when Nazis were trying to expel them, severe economic sanctions that necessarily cause starvation among the underclass and put those Jewish hostages in a far worse situation, bomb German and French towns and cities so the animosity and desperation in occupied Europe becomes even more hateful and frenzied, the list goes on and the pacifists abd antiwar advocates of the era were calling all of it out, loud and clear, but they seem to be left out of most history books).
Basically the argument that it was a just war and the allies were trying to save lives is hogwash - they categorically made things worse in every meaningful way for European Jews, and openly dismissed the opportunities they had to save them without escalating such an apocalyptic war. As we see with governments all the time, they were more than willing to "sacrifice" the lives they claimed to be attempting to save to further the geopolitical agenda.
War is all bad, and governments contrive to weave propaganda narratives that will present them as just or necessary, when they in fact almost never are. It just piles death, suffering and hate onto death, suffering and hate. The generational consequences are immeasurable, and we would do well to remember that the same institutions that played such big roles in the mass slaughters of the various 20th century big wars are the institutions that continue to rule over us today. The system of world governance we are familiar with was baptized in an ocean of innocent blood, and I really think folks need to be more aware of that. "Democracy" and other such empty political buzzwords aren't a sufficient justifications for the horrors that have been placed at the foot of that false idol.
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Did the British really start bombing civilians first? The general impression I got from the education system in Scotland relatively recently was that the Nazis were the main culprits, they did mention that we also bombed civilians but my impression was that it wasn't as frequently
0 likesNah, defensive war was justified tho.
0 likesI'm probably going to regret asking this in the middle of the video, but doesn't murder in the first degree have to be premeditated?
1 likeI hope that poor lady who witnessed Ms Deborahs death is ok 😭
0 likesThankfully the treatment of veterans have gotten significantly better, especially in the last decade or so.
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this happened in the last 5 years genius
0 likesIf any veterans feel symptoms, please get help. My father served in Vietnam from 67-70. He killed himself in 2009. He never got over the war and his PTSD. He might have not died in Vietnam, but he suffered a grave mental wound.
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I'm sorry for your loss. It really is a private hell civilians just can't fathom. I pray for his peace and your comfort.
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3 likesI'm so sorry for your tremendous loss 💔 my dad was drafted and was in vietnam from 68-69 and he has severe PTSD. it hurts my heart. War is so ugly 💔
10 likesDamn right. Please get help. I am so so sorry, but thank you.
3 likesMy uncle served in Vietnam. He signed up when he was 17 I do believe my great grandmother didnt want him to go but she signed off....when I was a kid in the eighties he used to sit away from everybody and just repeat "That sho is cold". As kids we didnt know wtf he was talking about...now I totally understand what he was getting at.
3 likesDid he talk about his time in Nam?
0 likesI'm terribly sorry for your loss 💟💟💟
1 likeMy dad served too his PTSD has left me with Complex PTSD
0 likesI am so sorry for your painful loss, and for the terrible undeserved pain that your father carried long after he came home. War is the worst thing to come from the human species. Hope you are doing well.
0 likesMy sincere condolences .
0 likesHe was a casualty of that war. I’m so sorry.
0 likesSorry for your loss. My husband Nam 67 - 68. Also committed suicide in 1996. I was 16 when we were married & our children are grown with great lives. My brother, Nam 67-68 helicopter gunner killed himself 2002. 🙏✝️😭🇺🇸
0 likesA family friend served in Nam as a navy seal and had severe ptsd from it. He became wealthy in real estate and owned several homes and backcountry properties in idaho along with having several airplanes. He just killed himself a month ago in his airplane hangar where his wife found him later that morning... He left her and 3 grown daughters behind. He was in his mid 70's. :-(
1 likeNo offense and deepest condolences to your dad. But not everyone's who's been in combat has severe PTSD like Andrew Brennan.....I did 3 tours and I only have Survivors guilt and Knee issues besides that I'm well functioned in society. To me it's really arragont to make a blanket statement like that.
0 likesSo sorry. I am you have support and seek counseling ✌️
0 likes@Rachelle Jane You take English Course for better grammar before you suggest something you know nothing about. I'm well adjusted then most.
0 likesTri Do Karma will visit you.
0 likesTo be fair, in the context of Vietnam, americans are the last people to feel sorry about. Feel sorry for the literal millions of Vietnamese that the americans murdered for no reasons besides imperial ambitions. But it was a draft. Can´t expect everyone to risk themselves avoiding the draft. Much worse is the modern US military. Modern murderers have no draft excuse. They willingly go overseas to murder people.
1 likeWhere can I find the original uncut version? I’ve read somewhere that parts were cut for YouTube. This is already one of the best pieces of media I’ve ever watched, I’d like to support the full thing. I don’t think I’ve seen a more impactful crime documentary with such an important message, with the content not being used in an exploitative manner at all.
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The other comments states it’s on patreon in full.
1 likeThis video of the shootout used to be in YT. it was really horrifying. I always wanted to know the context of this story.
0 likesCant help but love those emotional detectives
0 likesWhen reality is more tragic than fiction... so much sadness.
0 likesI know a woman whose husband handled Agent Orange in the military, on a regular basis. Not only did he die from cancer at an early age, both his children developed cancer young and died. She was left alone
1 likewhat a powerful intro that immediately set the tone. i see what you mean with the ironic music montages! WOW. Vietnam was truly horrific and showed the horror and effects of war with all the recorded footage. still amazed at the movie length and amazing quality of these videos and all for free at that!
0 likesI love this channel.. imitated way too often but i watch the old ones like this good one when the amateurs piss me off
0 likesAbsolutely amazing content.
0 likesMy father spent 3 years in the war, the person who came back wearing his shoes, moustache and N.K.Osijek t-shirt wasn't the same person, just a coat hanger for his stuff...
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im sorry :( my condolences
60 likesmy condolences sven, i dream of a day where you and your family’s story never has to repeat itself.
36 likesSo sorry!
4 likesThat’s deep
12 likes<3
2 likesBro thats a raw fucking line
38 likesBut whyyyy what happens to these people? We had warriors back then fighting with swords. What do they experience that kill their brain? 😖😖😖
6 likes@bubba bro swords are nothing compared to guns and explosives. and planes and tanks and battleships. are you serious?
44 likes@bubbaas if swords and horses aren’t just as traumatic
22 likes@FallOutElephant both are pretty bad in their own ways
24 likesI'm sorry Sven.
2 likes@bubba There are accounts of things like PTSD from all the way back to antiquity. Society just didn't understand mental illness as well back then. I'm sure the Roman citizens who had to face down Hannibal's elephants were pretty effed up from that. Or the Austrians who survived the siege of Vienna. There's plenty of traumatic things in war, no matter the time in history.
24 likes@Robin You seem awfully sure of what war his father was in.
22 likes@Robin Does it matter what war? Most people going to war are absolutely unprepared for what waits them. And most people get some level of PTSD, some even after a short time. Most civilians exposed to war also get PTSD but no one cares about them. Only people not getting PTSD are the sociopaths.
15 likesBtw, the war Sven S refers to is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence
@Robin maybe he didn't want to go
5 likes@Robin blame the politicians who sent them there, not the individuals who likely had little to no control over the situation.
12 likes@Robin maybe the reference to the NK Osijek shirt would give you a bit of detail to infer what war OP is talking about. Then again, you seem too emotional and dense to sit down and think about something for more than a few solitary seconds.
11 likesA jadan tata :((( Kako je sada???
0 likes@Robin listen, I hate imperialist wars as much as the next decent person (and essentially all wars that the US and Western Europe have been involved in have been imperialist), but that's a pretty fucking brutal response. Many soldiers on the imperialist side are also victims, pawns at the whims of capital — we should extend empathy to them as well as the civilians of the countries they invade and decimate. On top of that, your cold-heartedness makes our side look bad, comrade.
10 likesBTW, it sounds like this person's dad was involved in the Bosnian War. Hardly something like Iraq or Vietnam.
Apologies brate
0 likes@bubba The difference is that in the era of swords and arrows, you have armor, shields, ranks of men around you. Your enemy fires arrows at you and you can block them with your shield; your enemy attacks you with a sword and you can fight back. You're going to suffer and see friends die, certainly, but you can defend yourself, you have the opportunity to win fights on your own skill.
9 likesIn modern warfare, if an enemy is a kilometer away and shoots you in the head with a sniper rifle, you're dead, period. You cannot defend yourself, cannot fight back, cannot win, you're just dead. If a civilian blows himself up next to you while you're traveling through his village, you're dead, period. If a mortar shell falls on you, you're dead, period.
Seeing this sorts of unpredictable, uncontrollable, indefensible means of death and mutilation happen to your comrades all around you all the time, and knowing that the same may happen to you at literally any moment with no warning or anticipation, is a kind of stress medieval and earlier soldiers never had to live with.
There is a TREMENDOUS difference between walking into a battle with a shield wall, knowing you're about to fight and defend yourself, versus sitting around your base camp and hearing a mortar come whistling in, crouching down and praying it misses you.
@Devarious that's very well explained thank you!!
1 like@bubba I used to have the exact same questions about why modern day PTSD seems so much more extreme than it was in the ancient eras, even though war was just as commonplace, if not moreso, back then. It makes sense when explained in the context of how much the soldier himself is able to control, and how unimaginably stressful it becomes to participate in a war where your survival is entirely out of your hands at all times.
6 likesAnother thing I left out because it wasn't quite as relevant, though it does explain even further - in the olden days, from childhood you were taught that your family and country were your highest priorities, and that killing your enemies was a great good, something heroic and triumphant to be celebrated. When you killed a man with your sword you felt like a champion, like you'd helped save your home and loved ones.
In modern days, we're all raised from childhood taught that killing another human being, committing murder, is the worst crime you can commit, is worthy of the death penalty or life in prison, is something horrific and awful. Then, after at least 18 years of this understanding, a gun is put in your hands and you're told "Go murder that man, it's okay because we said so." It can't be difficult to see how taking that sort of action, which contradicts so starkly with everything you were raised to believe, would only add even more stress to an already exhausted soldier.
I'm glad I was able to share some of my understanding with you, and also glad that you were willing to listen. I totally get your initial confusion because I had the same myself at first.
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@Devarious thanks again!! Happy to have learned something new today and finally got a nice answer 💯 thanks alot for the time to write this down
1 like@Robin it could have been lets see vietnam,korea,the gulf war,wwii,iraq,afganastan and many more you dont know what war he was in mate
0 likes@Dave matthews War in the Balkans. Osijek is in Croatia. I know this cuz I was living there as a child, 4 years old when the war started in 1991, my father, even tho he was croatian "chose" (you had to go in to war if you was a male and old enough) the serbian side since my mom is serbian. My dad was in the war for the serbs and his twin brother for the croats, shooting at eachother.. So yeah, both me and my mom suffer from PTSD, my dad died unfortunatly, but I think he would have sufferd from heavy PTSD and what not after that war..
1 likeI’m very sorry I know what’s it’s like it doesn’t effect the only but us too
0 likesYou were old enough to remember him before that?
0 likesi’m so sorry sven :(
0 likes@Robin How dare you.
0 likesI'm sorry... That's the sad reality of war... The person you are when going in dies either way... The question is if the body dies with it.. And what's really sad most of wars are just a way for the rich to get richer...
0 likesI can’t stop watching these videos even though they make me very very sad
0 likesWhoever did the intro and ending deserves a raise.
0 likesDogs are just way too good for Someone with incredibly severe PTSD can improve through the companion of a dog. Imagine along with therapy and medication he might have avoided this situation
0 likesThe intro was really well done
2 likesAs a US Army Iraq and Afghanistan Combat Vet with relatively severe PTSD, please don't let this negatively impact the way you think about veterans with PTSD. I know a lot of Vietnam vets and younger vets who are some of the nicest people I've met. We're not all wacko like the movies and the media make it seem. We're generally very nice people because seeing the horrors of war humbles you.
79 likesI will say that when Andy said "I'm glad to be getting out of this place", as tragic as it is, I can relate. War changes a man.
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Hey man, I'm just some dude on the internet, and I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but I just want to say that even though it doesn't always come across (because civilians don't understand what they haven't been through) we're still rooting for you. We might be confused, or scared, or wary because we don't know what to do, but we want to do whatever we can. Sometimes it's just hard to know what we can and should do, but don't hesitate to reach out, because we still WANT to do whatever we can. God bless in these troubling times.
10 likesThank you for your service. I wish you all the best.
5 likesMy heart goes out to you and all other veterans who have served, then come home changed. It hurts to think of the trauma you all endure. Compassion, not pity. :)
3 likesWar changes a man especially when you kill innocent people destroy nations install the J banking system and robbed the nations resources.
2 likes@Bigboy Rambo Lmao Okay
2 likesI used to work in assembly line work, at a warehouse for assembling music instrument cases. One of my coworkers was a former Army Ranger. Very severe PTSD, and a laundry list of other medical conditions from the strain and injuries he had to endure. Very chill dude though. His insistence on making us all listen to ACDC all the time was a little grating, but he was like an uncle to me. Taught me the proper form for push-ups, was genuinely concerned for me when he saw me fighting back tears that my first paycheck would be enough to help me weather the next month(likely would have thrown whatever amount of money I needed at me, if I but asked), and gave me valuable insight into what it's like to confront the horrors you guys face. It's beyond even an imagination as vivid as my own.
0 likesI know that some days, it's just plain not gonna be okay, regardless of what us normies wish for you. But I appreciate what you soldiers gave up for us, in the interest of preserving our ways of life. You matter to me, and I salute you.
I've been around the block to those places too, I've never visited the VA since I've never developed Symptoms of PTSD, only knee issues and Hearing lose that's it.
0 likesNot so easy to find this video these days - Great work!
1 likeThose bombs pretty much condense the moisture in the air immediately, that shockwave would literally make short work of your lungs if you were in the area. I wonder how often friendly fire occurred from thinking you were a safe distance out
0 likesThe fact is that learned mental illnesses have a basis that often can translate into criminal dendancies, or have agravating factors on the outcome on distressing events in the person's life. A mental illness that someone is born with doesn't have any of these factors so should be treated differently, when someone comes back a war hero with severe PTSD some leway should be given to acknowledge this fact. My friends that have come back from Ireland, Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghan with PTSD suffer daily and their lives have been affected entirely. That a 100% disabled veteran was given a death sentance when a nutter who kills 2 women and his child isn't given the death penalty we must ask where the "justice" in our departments of justice across the world actually lies.....
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I think what should be taken from this is that the death penalty in general is extremely unfair and shouldn't be used on anyone. As fucked as it seems, I would rather they sit in prison and pay their dues to society rather than just get the easy way out.
1 like@Dinosaur_Senior No. Some need to be put down. Sooner rather than later.
0 likesPTSD due to war trauma is like living with a evil twin that hides in the shadows .
0 likesWhat makes this channel so much better than any other channel of the same genre is that it doesn't use any unnecessary background music, I appreciate that.
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You are absolutely correct. I didn’t realize what it was until you pointed it out.
8 likesabsolutely
2 likesImagine forcefully getting sent to war by your government, coming back a hero, develop severe ptsd and suffer for years until you finally snap. Then because you snapped the same government decides to put you down. What a life, absolutely zero control what happens to you.
0 likesTragic all the way around. They need a internal delivery system for PTSD meds like they do for Morphine, monthly doses in one shot.
0 likesThat last part folks is why cops fire on people who appear to be reaching for or holding a weapon. It's sad because it shows how sympathetic the cop was to the mans situation showing just how much of a great human he is, but as soon as he knew he had a weapon and was reaching for it he needed to just take the shot. It's a really shitty situation bc obviously the man never asked for such a severe illness to the point where he can hardly control himself, but it ultimately is what it is and it's kill or be killed. It would've been hard on the cop I'm sure but not a single person would've blamed him especially since the man was not a person of color, and multiple things can be true at once; it can be sad the man had been put in that situation and died, and it would also be sad the cop had to defend his life and kill someone who is as good as brainwashed by an illness. Unfortunately that's not how the situation ended up and both lives were consequentially lost.
0 likesMany times I find myself wishing a god was real, because neither of them deserved what happened and it would be assuring to know they can at least find peace after life. However, the world can be cruel and things don't always have happy endings. Never waste the tragedy of others by not using them to find more gratitude for your own life and the people you love who are still around. The hands of time move swift and passes impartial judgement on those within it. Out of all the people who have ever existed the odds of you living and breathing right now are astronomically less than 1 in a billion billion billion billions when observing relatively to the grand scheme of things. Treat you and your loved ones like the millions of consecutive won lotteries that they are.
From a psychological standpoint I wonder if PTSD is in part a defense mechanism where the mind resorts to its primitive state (the time where tens of thousands of years ago prehistoric humans were basically always on the move, always alert and sleeping with one eye open no different from the way an animal in the wild would.) An enduring, traumatic event such as an active battle might trigger this small, hidden section of our brain, the remnants of the past, an instinctual and primal reaction called survival. The parts of our brain linked to the flight or fight response. But this section of the brain once switched on or developed won’t turn off. No expert but definitely going to look into this given I have close friends with PTSD and it’s generally difficult for the public/society to relate/understand/empathize because we didn’t endure such a horrific event that would cause this terrible condition. How noble can war be if it continuously causes hell?
1 likeI’m an Iraq & Afghan vet (support, non combat) and this was so sad. Especially the end.
0 likesI love the intro, it’s so cinematic, the contrast between the love song and the bombing is just so… I can’t firm the words to describe it idk why I felt the need to type this out but I still like the intro so much
0 likesIf I'm on that jury, I'm applauding those cops. They went to easy on that cop-killer. They should've done far worse.
0 likesAwesome video man, powerful message behind this
0 likesThis was the first episode to bring a tear to my eye, what a sad world we ignore
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Same brother.
0 likesignorance is bliss
2 likesSame here.
0 likes@jreg2007 unfortunately it is
1 likeExcept it wasn't ignored.... he got help, and seemed to be doing a lot better, but then regressed. There's no way to predict, understand, or truly prevent that. It's a tragedy, but don't act like anyone could've seen it coming.
2 likesSame here man
0 likes@Emery Pattern if I’m to be honest I had to stop watching the lady who killed her daughter, that just makes me nauseous 🤢
0 likesYou should watch the whole footage from the scene. The author had cut out the ending, when the officer's colleagues arrive.
0 likesThere is nothing more bone-chilling than the screams of despair from his partner, what's even more horrific, is that all of them are out of the camera angle.
You can only imagine these men and women crying and calling out his name in vain, probably holding him, someone trying to drag them away from the body...
Link: https://youtu.be/VpO6OWYl_iI
Same. Rich men send poor boys to die for rich Frenchman, against poor Vietnamese boys.
0 likesSame. I've seen the video, but never Andy's side, nor his remorse at death. Now my eyes are running,
0 likesThe world really isn't just sad, most people's lives are filled with largely positive interactions and even those who are truly unlucky and are stricken by unthinkable levels of grief and tragedy most often find comfort in other people or for Andy that dog.
0 likesHistory isn't just the world wars or vietnam, those are the darkest times in history and yet people like you focus on them as the true "ignored" nature of the human experience when they are given undue levels of attention and make up so little of the human experience.
@Anonymous00616 human nature is suffering. Life is suffering. You must be completely naive to believe the majority are having positive experiences 🤦🏾♂️
0 likes@Micah J You are naive and indoctrinated by media that have an agenda to keep you afraid and resentful of humanity.
0 likes@Anonymous00616 I do not resent humanity or listen to media. It’s common sense. The majority suffer while the minority take from them. Get out of your bubble
0 likes@Micah J If people really "commonly" understood that any social stratification results in an existence of suffering for the majority civilization would have never got past square one. The upper class of any society do live with less suffering but that hardly means those below them live in abject misery. When the common person does reach that level of suffering they rise up and take out their frustration on those they view as privileged. Historically it's not necessarily because their leaders did anything particularly unjust, it's usually because of things like floods or droughts in the past or policy/market failures in the present.
0 likesI'd take a ten hour version of JCS intros any day. Hits the spot
5 likesThis was described as the lowest ranking vid on JCS... in a video about why JCS is so successful.... but to me...this is the hardest hitting of all. It is....the topic itself that is huge. Hard to nail it down...
2 likesI went to search for the full video of the shoot out and now I regretted my decision. The sound is haunting as fuck. out of all the JCS, this one is one of the creepier ones due to the video.
1 likeGod, a movie about this veteran and cop serving in the same war and cross paths in a shootout would make an AMAZING movie.
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100%
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place"
988 likeshe never got out of the war in his mind, the war followed him... pretty sure knowing he's approaching death felt like a chopper back to safety.
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Well said.
16 likesDude his last words were deep af. Sadly no one will ever understand what was going through his mind. War is tough
59 likesIt hit me hard, poor guy
13 likes@Alex Homovc, if being trapped on a warzone as a civilian can totally wreck a persons mind...
21 likesimagine a soldier who had to prepare himself for death everyday as he watch friends from left and right... not to mention the horrible treatment vietnam vets got when they got home
@Alex Homovc um us vets with ptsd understand what’s running through his mind, you can’t even begin to imagine the atrocities I as well as many of my comrades have seen, and then have to defend ourselves.
3 likes"He left the war but the war never left him"
4 likes@Wardy T couldnt agree more///
2 likesLz X-ray
0 likes@Wardy T Although taking his life was very unjustified, it was the ending he wanted.
0 likes@Wardy T Those cops were getting off on the only time they'll ever be able to scream at someone they're so terrified of. Cowards.
0 likesAnd the courage it must took to say those last words in a world where his life was damned since 19 years old...
1 likeHe said he was "glad to be getting out of this place", that a far different wording than "leaving this place".
3 likes"Getting out of this place" is 1:1 army or other military chatter, it's what soldiers say when they are extracting, or die due to their injuries on the field. It's not something someone christian or civilian would say, a person who believes in god, or other person.
It's what someone says who has lost all hope, has seen death, and has faced death, and either dies or gets rescued in another way, from the horror of war.
This man never, ever, has forgotten war, and was, even in life, still in war.
You got to remember, you americans have many thousands of veterans from the gulf war, and recently iraq, who are equally traumatised. About time to give them some love and attention, in a positive way.
@Kittensss thanks for pointing that out
0 likesnah hes just a cold blood killer
1 like@Jemar Catubig if it was a ptsd attack, the judge would have spared him from the death sentance, but he was aware of what he was doing
0 likes@Le best, i see ur ill informed. Do ur research. No point in arguing
0 likesThis intro is literally one of the best things I've seen on yt
10 likesYou didn't show the end of the video, where you hear him go in for the kill and the officer plead for his life. It very understandably influenced the jury.
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I'm not sure about that decision but eh
0 likesHe deserved everything he got from those detectives.
2 likes“Deserve the respect of any rabid dog in the street”
0 likesNo, you’d put down the dog for it’s own sake. This guy you’d close in and laugh as rabies melts his brain.
Your videos have really taught me how imperative it is that authorities retain a cool head and operate with the law in mind. The difference between a successful interrogation and a botched one is the investigators/interrogators not letting their anger get to them.
299 likesThe end is heartbreaking, though it does surprise me the officer went so long without firing.
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I was surprised too. watching that video kind of helps you understand how tough it must be to make those judgement calls as a cop.
21 likesCouldn't have said it better than myself. Those guys shouldn't have let it get to their heads. They treated him way worse than they needed too.
6 likesYep but cops are humans just like any other profession, and no human is always capable of controlling their emotions. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have to sit in a room with someone who murdered a pregnant woman and a cop that was your friend.
8 likesLike with this story it’s just really hard for me to feel bad for what happened to that guy, seeing what he did and who he killed. I have almost zero compassion for whatever happens to him.
Since that happened thats shown in most every officer's training of what happens when you dont pull the trigger. Dont watch the full video. He gets right over the officer when he pumps the last few shots and you can tell by the cops screams he knows its happening. Then the guy drives away and the officer screams more as he realizes he's dieing. Its little wonder why cops don't do that anymore.
1 likeVictim blaming?
1 like@Legato Modi "Since that happened thats shown in most every officer's training of what happens when you dont pull the trigger. " Well, that certainly would explain a few problems we've been having, but not all of them. I kept thinking the whole time that if Andrew just happened to have brown skin, the officer's restraint would have ended with the first peek at the rifle. Maybe that's overly cynical, but maybe it's what I've learned from the evidence of how police behave in this country.
3 likesStill a tragic situation for all involved. Much like those returning from active duty in war zones, I don't know how to safely prepare and keep decent human beings in the law enforcement role. The danger is so great, and the PTSD is real. Perhaps if they weren't in a country where it's safest to assume that every idiot they encounter is packing an automatic weapon, because yes they can, our officers wouldn't be so trigger-happy themselves.
@cerulean daydream its important to remember the media is having an affect on them just like the public. Just like we see everyday that "theyre against us" they see "we won't tolerate it no more!". The rift between law enforcement and the public becomes greater everyday reinforcing in a cop's mind "its us versus them". You gotta admit, you're somewhat feeling a "us versus them" kinda thing too. We all feel it. All of us really need to drop it. Its still kinda hard. Especially since they got a gun and we're not supposed to and if we legally have one from a legal permit, them knowing that immediately causes them to seize it carefully (or outright wig out and shoot you immediately) until youre free to go even though the 2nd ammendments point is to be mutually armed. If they got their hand on their gun you should be able to do the same in case they mean to compromise your rights in a different way. But you don't have rights. Every "God given self evident" right that "shall not be infringed" has a limit and you can't exercise any of the first 10 ammendments in court unless they let you cause the 11th ammendment says you can not make a case in court against the government unless they want to. Its ridiculous. We have no rights. We have privileges. We can say or express ourselves how ever we want (unless its too offensive or pisses off the wrong one). We can bare arms, but only little ones and only in your home unless the state gives you a permit, which doesn't matter if the government wants to mess with you and you better hand that over quick if you wanna survive. We do not have to tolerate unnecessary search and seizure unless a cop makes something up or gets a second opinion from a fucking dog thats trained to get a treat whenever he indicates smells on something. Or if a corporation wants your land and buys you out through the city with imminent domain. You get a fair and speedy trial, unless the feds or military gets you for something they designate as terrorism. Then you may get a trial possibly one day. The constitution is bullshit. This "free country" is a lie. Better than other places though. For now.
3 likesHe was a white guy that's why he went so long without firing.
5 likes@Mystic Legion I think he simply didn't wanna shoot anybody like most people. He was a rookie. Most cops start their careers expecting to do good. The reality is that giving people the benefit of the doubt usually ends up fucking you over, and that's the case in life whether you're a cop or a normal person.
0 likesThose detectives did their job in my eyes
0 likesI'm sad because this is the last video from JSC for me to watch. I wish there were a ton more him.
0 likesIt hurts to think of all the horrific thing that Vietnam vets went through and the loss they experienced just to come home to a thankless country that couldn’t give a shit about them
0 likesThe impact of the intro video and music perfectly support the argument of video swaying the jury as it undoubtedly moved all of you !
2 likesA season combat vet vs a poorly trained officer, the system failed them both.
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@Troll69 He's not wrong, that officer was absolutely horrendous at his job.
217 likes@Russian It's easy to say that he was bad at his job, and by the standard of being able to remove a threat to his own life he certainly failed. However to me, it's clear that he died because he was not ready to take someone else's life, which might make him "bad" at being a police officer that day, but it's a failing that speaks to his moral character. I think it's cold and inhumane if your response to his horrible last moments was "man, he was bad at his job".
563 likes@Zethalai i agree.. man that officer didnt want to kill anyone.. :S someone aiming at you with their gun and you still try to talk to them instead... :S sad how good people die
212 likes@Zethalai no dude, he was bad at his job like most officers. Officers dont get the training they need to perform at the standard of other professional police from other countries, such as europe. Lack of quality training turns cops into bad ones
25 likes@Zethalai He was bad at his job. The moment he saw the man was having an emotional episode, he should have changed tactic. Instead, he screamed, was defensive, made demands, continued screaming... and eventually the stress of the situation he had caused that veteran overtook him, and the war came back to him.
115 likesSituations like these do not require panick, and that's what the officer did in his last moments: he panicked. Situations like these require empathy, the exact thing the officer was never trained to express to the people he faces in the line of duty. Instead, they are taught fear. Not one moment in that whole interaction did that cop speak without fear in his voice.
He wouldn't be bad at his job if he'd been trained to be empathetic. He wouldn't be dead if he had been trained to be empathetic. He was bad at his job, because he wasn't trained to do his job. The system failed both these men, and it led to this tragic outcome. There are no heroes in the story of Andy Brannon. Only victims.
If that vet was black that cop would have smoked him in minute 2
51 likesF12
2 likes@Zethalai that wasn’t the immediate thought, but if this was in a more Public space, it would’ve been costly
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1 like@Russian I actually disagree that officer was very good at his job, The job of the police is to protect the public not to instantly view the public as a threat, The officer recognized that the man was attempting to commit suicide by cop he tried to give him chances to get out of that, unfortunately the murderer changed his mind on suicide and began to open fire, and the firearms training that the murderer had was much better than police training. No the cop was trained properly, unfortunately police nowadays base a lot of their training off of the dash cam footage of this cop being murdered which is used as part of current training that is called kilology which ultimately trains police to view every public interaction as hazardous and potentially deadly, which means even if they pull you over for a tail light that's out they instantly view you as a threat as they approach your vehicle. Police do not protect and serve anymore, they only exist to uphold the law and the law is written by rich men and women to keep everybody else in their places. Protect and serve does not exist. Some verbal de-escalation training could have helped however.
22 likesIs it really hard for people to grasp that a police officer and a seasoned war veteran are probably on different planes of experience in fire fights?
7 likes@Chromeberd A 2 time Vietnam War veteran who trained with Firearms in active combat (since 19 years old), as the literal frontline man VS a cop pulling him over for a speeding ticket.
13 likesWho tf do these people think is gonna win that fight?
Cops and soldiers - the worse you are at your job, the better of a person you are.
3 likes@Zethalai the cop was afraid to use his gun, because of an incident he had already got in trouble for. iirc
4 likes@Apollo probably would’ve just made him shoot him sooner. Lol Also, don’t even know if they had tasers back then,
0 likes@Kraio why would he not shoot when andrew was pointing a gun at him?
8 likesLol that's an understatement. The system failed the vet, when it drafted him into a war that didn't need to happen.
4 likes@Zethalai The only way to look at this. Respect to all officers, especially those who lost their lives in the line of duty.
1 likeNot even poorly trained I'd argue, just young. Inexperienced. Even after receiving training and a handful of years on the job as a cop, I doubt he ever previously encountered anything so dangerous as what he encountered that day. He was only 22, of course.
4 likesSuch a strange irony, dying for a lack of experience, and being killed by a man who had experienced too much.
@B.K. Laughton A good soldier accomplishes his objectives with a minimal loss of life. A bad soldier gets his friends, comrades, and self killed. You tell me which of those seems like a better person.
1 like@CommonlyKnownAsAngi You left out the bit where the objective involves killing other people. A good soldier is good at following orders and killing without hesitation or doubt. Good people are bad at that. Bullies, lackeys, and sociopaths make great soldiers, on the other hand.
7 likes@Chiarosu Burekeni well, is easier to hit a black target on a white surface
0 likes@B.K. Laughton Why don't you just admit that you have a prejudice against police and the military instead of pretending you know anything about how those professions actually work? Don't worry man I'm sure at least one person who has read your comments has bought into your psuedo-moralistic position that people in these professions are bad, and you calling them out therefore makes you a good person.
1 likehow the fuck could a cop be better trained then a 2 time in real combat veteran with two awards? the man is a killing machine, look at his aiming and stance.
2 likes@Troll69 You were four letters away from doing the same
0 likes@SoNotMainstream sauce?
0 likesPolice officer training should be the level of military?
0 likesIt's admirable he didn't want to shoot the other man before it was unavoidable, but surely it was a misstake then to continue to yell orders at him.
1 like@trigger_1154 If he was good at his job, he wouldn't be dead. Lmao.
0 likesThe officer was very young as well, his issue was lack of tact, when he didnt have complete control he just kept yelling and waving his gun
0 likesDude was only in his early 20s he probably just joined a better description is inexperienced
0 likes@Troll69 ratio'd lmao
0 likes@taco stains Dude, Europe is also trash. Lmao. The standard of law enforcement is just about the same internationally. Those (2 years) in the UK is made up of probation time after, which is still them out on the streets not in the academy. Just like officers in the United States varying from a full year to half a year.
0 likes@MrfunnyNacho wrong, the standards are not the same. Law enforcement in europe take more time with training and actually train for de escalation. Ours dont. Dont try to lie here.
0 likes@taco stains There is no lying.... in fact in regards to tactical training most law enforcement standards even in Europe are incredibly low. They don't require specialization in Grappling, they train twice a year in firearms, and just about the same for scenario classes that train officers. Don't read a Twitter thread or a common quote from media outlets and then never actually look at what's being reviewed. Law enforcement receive hundreds of thousands of calls daily just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean they're not using de-escalation. I'll be waiting for you to bring up Knife attacks in the UK (Specifically the video where officers used shields) so I can break down the piss poor tactics and the reality....if you asked any UK cop if they'd of called an armed officer to the scene they would say yes....and he'd get shot.
0 likes@taco stains You've let popular news channels and various critics parade around the "European 2 year standard" and never actually looked into what that meant....the academy is literally just about the same length as US police officers, their probation time is the difference, which US police officers also undergo an additional 6 mo-1year+ in probation where they're out on the street . Which is what also makes the UK police (2 years)
0 likes@MrfunnyNacho yawn. Someone doesnt know that they have specialized units for firearms. Check up on Sweden officers and the years of school they have to complete before becoming an officer.
0 likesThis is more training than what the officers in the US gets. They only go through academy and dont really train much with firearms. They only shoot that sidearm a few times a year.
At least with the regular officer over there, they still get more training. There is more than just having firearm training. They are trained to de-escalate and when the situation calls for something more extreme, specialized units come in.
Keep trying.
@MrfunnyNacho that's why Sweden officers were able to de-escalate a fight between two men in an NYC sub train. Something that is hard for officers to do over here. They did it without weapons. You're looking like a fool here. They also train on making sure the suspect are okay. They ask questions and go further than what officers in the US go. So no, the standards in Europe arent low compared to the US.
0 likes@MrfunnyNacho go ahead, list off every news channel you think I watch and I'm willing to bet $100 I dont watch any of them. You ready to lose money today?
0 likes@taco stains And yet, had the NYPD used that exact same hold, you would of heard the public screaming he can't breathe, why are there two officers on him. The suspect was literally screaming he can't breathe. There's hundreds of videos of NYPD doing the exact same thing. What's your point?
0 likes@taco stains "Doesn't know they have specialized units for firearms"
0 likesWhat do you think "They would of called an armed officer on scene" means? lmao.
@MrfunnyNacho there are not hundreds of videos of the NYPD doing the same thing. They arent trained to make sure and ask if the suspect is ok after detaining them or holding them on the ground. Swedish cops are trained to do that. Keep trying. Just face it, cops in the US do not compare to the cops in Europe. The hiring process arent the same either.
0 likes@taco stains I'll end it here, since you clearly don't even know their UOF policies, how your own academies are structured. Just like you said I guess, all you do is what? watch youtube videos right?
0 likes@MrfunnyNacho and I dont need Columbus police when I already watch realworldpolice or whatever that channel is. Cops just dont perform the same as the one in Europe.
0 likes@Chiarosu Burekeni he literally had a gun
0 likes@Kita B. Fawkes This is my thoughts exactly. The entire video I was thinking "what is he doing, why is he shouting at him, why is he agitating him further". I fimd it very disturbing that the person you responded to immediately though "cop bad at his job" meant "didn't kill the suspect fast enough", as if the only way an officer can deal with a situation is to kill.
1 likeTalking is the most important tool of a cop, and talking to the person (talking, not yelling) should be the the primary focus in amy encounter, with violence being the last resort. Unfortunately police trainees are rarely taught this, new officers often approach any situation as if violence was imminent, and by doing so end up turning a non-violent situation into a violent one. There needs to be reworks onto police training to protect the police, the perpetrators and bystanders alike from unnecesary violence
@Russian no one police officer is going to be able to take down a fully trained war veteran whose won multiple accolades for his bravery and skill in combat. Is it really respectful to say a innocent officer who was gunned down was horrendous at his job?
0 likes@taco stains "other countries, such as europe"
0 likes@Zethalai and he was only 22
0 likesNo seriously, I agree. The military had a blank check. They really should try to help these veterans. Vietnam and PTSD was bad, also the officer should been trained for handling situations in extreme circumstances... I feel bad. I hate that they have blank checks and fail these people
0 likes@Kita B. Fawkes wow we found a classic chat section professional, pretty you you wouldve done a great job in that situation
0 likeshe had been through hell, to come back and have his entire family succumb to it. there’s a not one person walking away unscathed
0 likesThis is definitely a case guilty by reason of insanity.
0 likesHe literally has ptsd with the war he fought for us, and yet the court doesn’t even wanna mention it
5 likeshow could they have sentenced him to die…i’m still so angry…
1 likemy dad was 17 and on the beaches of Normandy on D-Day. A few short years later, he was on the front lines in Korea. He won 2 purple hearts, bronze star and silver star. He NEVER talked about it but self-medicated with alcohol to knock himself out at night to forget.....every night......for the rest of his short life. That's what most of the men who went through these things did back then before PTSD was a recognized 'thing'......they just suffered silently. Please pray for everyone who has had to witness the horrors of war....
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My grandfather experienced and then did the same. He was a piece of shit alcoholic that created a cycle of abuse in his family. Can't help but wonder how different him and my entire family may have been if he had never fought in wars. I guess I'll never know.
7 likesIn my opinion the death sentence was kind of an act of mercy in this case
0 likesOK I know I'm going to get crap for this but what are they supposed to do ? Coddel him after he murdered a pregnant woman & what sounds like a REALLY good police officer. To you what they said may be unprofessional but to me he deserved those words.. he dodgy deserve to get beat up though, they are fully wrong for that.
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Agreed
0 likesYou didn't include the audio at the end of the video of the firefight between Andrew and Kyle. I know why you didn't include it and in many ways I am thankful. But it's that audio that sealed Andrew's fate.
1 likeThe world needs more content like this
0 likesI've seen enough of these crime docs that I was completely expecting to hear something like ''Andrew mutilated his dog and fashioned tools out of his bones''. It's beyond terrible that the officer died for just doing his job, same goes for officer Debra.
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@Eric Harrison there is no ethical consumption under capitalism
0 likes@yeetus meetus Sent from my iPhone
7 likes@Eric Harrison yes pie in the sky bs.
1 likeLike nationalized healthcare and education isnt in Europe, Russia, Canada, and China.
Just admit that we cant afford it because "far right extremists" think capitalism is so flawless that stealing tax payer money to give to the wealthy isnt going to cause a recession because all the money trickles back down to the people, right?
Except it doesnt because that would be socialism. So the rich get richer whilst you complain about the possiblity of having an easier life. Your brain on capitalism everybody
i get sick of the narrative all cops are bad because of a few bad cops, the majority are like the 2 that died in video....just doing their jobs
2 likes@Translation Hell this is not an argument
0 likes@Nathaniel Chieffallo History has proven time and time again that socialism leads to extraordinary poverty for everyone but the few oligarchs at the top. Yes, I'm sorry that my "brain on capitalism" allows me to pick up a book and read it. Trying to pretend that Canada has either a medical or educational system that is noteworthy is laughable as well. My wife is Canadian and would have died if we had chosen to live in Canada with how ridiculously long the wait times are to see a specialist, let alone a GP. The irony of decrying capitalism, the economic model that has quite literally historically lifted entire societies out of poverty, on a platform that is purely available only due to said economic model while advocating for systems where virtually no innovation is made is so rich that it gives everyone here diabetes. Thankfully, most of us live in the US and won't have to wait 6 months to actually get seen by a doctor. Funny how that works.
2 likes@Eric Harrison "we could end world hunger if we just had socialized medicine" - Socialised medicine is only a radical concept to the radical right in my experience. You can run social and captal systems concurrently.
0 likes@Eric Harrison Many medical pharmaceutical companies in the US simply trade in innovation for policy favouring extended patent periods.
0 likesGoogle lifespan in canada, UK and the USA.
Then come back and tell me you're not as indoctrinated into an ideal as the people you discredit (in some cases rightly, though for the wrong reasons).
@Eric Harrison You should note that I'm not making arguments against capitalism in general here. Such debates serve little more than pushing for points regarding political ideology. I'm attempting to point out that your perspective is as warped by belief as those you oppose.
0 likesClockwork Man all cops are bad because the system is bad
0 likesGreat video. Really well done.
0 likesI agree with everything that cop and detective said.
0 likesI love this narrator. His voice is really soothing for me and helps me sleep. Jennifer Pan and Stephanie Laz are my favourite.
0 likesthat was such an amazing introduction.
0 likesEven though this is his least viewed video it spoke to me the most
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True that
5 likesthis one was great
10 likesIt's because it got age restricted. Youtube doesn't put age restricted videos in your recommendations, so only people who saw it on his page watched it.
100 likes@Sam I had to literally create a new account cause youtube would not let me watch this type of content. Teenagers are not babies for god sake. Well I mean anyone 15-16 is fair game to watch what they want.
17 likes@Führer Reicht yeah it's a bit ridiculous. I did the same thing back when i was 16
3 likes@Führer Reicht dude i understand that kids nowadays have seen everything, but im sure there are some kids that wouldn't want to see something as sad as that
10 likes@Führer Reicht i kinda had a hard time at the last clip and im 21 lol
4 likesYES WHAT PERFECT WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS VIDEO
2 likesSandwich
8 likesgordon ramsey?
6 likes@Whaleroast Whaleroast?
5 likesthis!! this is the comment!!
0 likesTrue! It is one of my favourite JCS videos!
0 likesProbably because the killer in this one is the most sympathetic by far.
2 likesWhat are you!?!?!?
0 likesIt has the least views because of the restrictions. RIP exposure due to YouTube
2 likesHe use to put all his videos on YouTube years ago but now he puts nothing up on YouTube.
1 likeI blame the thumbnail. I watched every single episode and watched this one last and damn it was top 3! lol
3 likes@porsha Lily is he on any other platform?
1 like@Führer Reicht it is a little more complicated than restrictions for teens and children. It's both censorship for children and warning for adults. Restrictions and ratings are there so people can make an educated decision. I've been exposed to some pretty messed up graphic stuff without warning or proper content explanation. It stuck with me for months. I don't think it's bad to keep actual children from stumbling upon it. But I do think that educated consent is necessary and viewer discretion should be up to the viewer.
4 likesC'mon dude, your comment is RAW!
0 likesMe too. This video is very important imo. It's not funny but it makes you think and sympathetic
1 likeThank you Gordon Ramsay
4 likes@Führer Reicht a couple weeks ago I was messing with my google account and changed my age,didn’t even have to make a new account to watch 18+ stuff
1 likeThat's raw.
1 likeAre we witnessing an increase in quality YouTube videos?? Great job, Sir.
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Nah, just algorithm doing their proper work
0 likesI hope this man found peace
0 likes"And my only regret, is that you're breathing right now"
1 likeUnderstandable & unprofessional
I had to confirm five times this time around on this video. That is def a record for me, which I must admit is surprising considering some of the stuff I come across!
0 likesThe dash cam is absolutely heartbreaking. It’s always stuck with me. I didn’t realize this was the history behind the shooter. It’s all so tragic.
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I know. That footage. I can't watch it anymore
2 likesHe danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged
0 likesIts an absolute tragedy. PTSD has taken so many lives. The symptoms of mental illness aren’t taken seriously enough.
1 like@Ashlee Whittlesey same
1 likeThis channel is truly amazing
1 like“Orlando police had a prejudice against him” well yeah no shit he shot his pregnant wife and a police officer. I’m not saying they were right but you could surely understand why they may have had prejudice.
1 likeWe train people to abandon humanity to conduct acts of violence and killing. That in any other circumstance would be punishable by death or life imprisonment, but fail to take accountability for the lost souls and minds we lose and create. War never changes. Such a tragic end for both parties.
3 likesWow I saw the shootout video and thought this man was just crazy now I have a bit of understanding on why it happen and the way it did
0 likesIMO anyone who voluntarily re-upped for another tour was already screwed up.
3 likesThis is a 10/10 video. I can't believe this content is free
0 likesMan… that footage in the beginning made me feel some type of way… so sad.
0 likesFor everyone ending their JCS binge journey here until the next upload, here’s another case I found on his backup page: https://youtu.be/rudSWhe_KD0.
1 likeHopefully this helps hold you over until your next hit…video. I meant video. Definitely video, because it’s not like we’re addicts or anything... 🥴😵💫 *itches uncontrollably*
My father has PTSD though thankfully not anywhere near this bad. He’s a vet, and I honestly think PTSD robbed him of his life. He is the most intelligent, creative person I’ve ever met in my entire life and he used to write scripts and produce films. Now he’s homeless living in his car outside of the VA because they don’t even have enough room to house him. The military chews up young men and spits them out without the proper means to adjust back to society. These are the silent costs of war that I guarantee you not a single fucking world leader thinks about. Always check in with your friends and family, even a simple text could save a life. It’s our duty as healthy people to take care of and help people less fortunate because our government sure as shit ain’t gonna do it. Fuck War.
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It's also our duty to try to talk our friends and family out of signing up for the military, in the first place!
18 likesDude if your father is homeless let him live with you. No way I am letting my veteran father live on the streets.
30 likesMickaël Barbosa slow down tiger... that’s approaching levels of assumption I’ve never seen before. How about you don’t pretend you know everything about the situation and take the comment at face value.
26 likeswhy isnt he living with you?
6 likessketchyforlife That is devastating, I’m so sorry to hear about your father. I agree, PTSD does rob you of your life. I hope one day your father will get into therapy and recover
2 likesHis father told him he was homeless, hoping he would take the hint and take him in.. But all he can do is say that's fucked... What a legend
10 likesMaybe if humanity wised up and stopped being led by the nose by the criminal few who run this planet...
1 likepeace be with you, my dad was a vet and his PTSD/time serving took his mind and body. War is a rich man's game first.
0 likesBro wtf help out your dad
0 likesthinking that the government should take care of your dad but not you instead... that's exactely how the government want people's minds. I don't even have words to describe (in english) how ridiculous this situation is.
0 likessketchyforlife p point
0 likes@Rodrigo Rocha you obviously have no idea the emotional, physical, and all around labor it takes to be a caretaker. have some perspective
0 likes@purplehaze2250 I finantially suport my entire family since I was 21, including my disabled mom (rent, groceries, all the house bills, etc). Also, i take all decisions and responsabilities. I know exactely how hard things can be and yet i'm not crying for father gorvernment help. Fuck people who thinks anybody onwes them anything.
0 likes@Rodrigo Rocha "i suffered so everyone else should too!" nice lol
0 likesI saw the dashcam footage years ago and it shook me up.
0 likesThe footage of that carpet bombing during Vietnam War is still intense to watch. My pop used to tell stories about hearing those waves of bombers coming. Scary stuff
0 likesThankful everyday for the little white Bunny named Marshmallow that my brother got himself after returning from Afghanistan, really was a game changer for his ptsd.
3 likesYour intros are always so smooth. Great work
0 likesThe narrator explains things so well and puts into words things that most people can’t. Love this channel!!!
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All while not over explaining and letting the footage speak for itself.
0 likesWelcome to JimCantSwim. He's amazing.
1 like@Mr. Johnson oh so that's what JCS stands for? I thought it was something like Justice Criminal Sociology something lmao
0 likesIt’s so crazy that 8 days before her death she pretty much predicted her death in that video. That case was fucked on both sides.
0 likesI wish that police officer in the last video had gone ahead and taken the shot when he had the chance. So sorry for his family and the other officer who lost her life and the the momma and baby and others who died in this video.
0 likesMy first time hearing about this case was through a song call, "i just killed a cop now im horny." Gave me chills.
0 likesThat last line gave me chills... it's so unbelievably sad.
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Yeah a lot of people's in here condone what the judge do to Andy yet to think about it, his suffering was done.
0 likesDidn’t expect this video to bring me to tears :(
1 likehappy to see this back up, even with the youtube warnings
1 likeWow. This was incredible.
0 likesWhat a video. 👏
And so; the spoiled privileged bureaucrats (who’ve never been to war) sentenced the clinically insane Vietnam veteran who experienced unimaginable horror to death
0 likesMy god watching Andy dance around manically before switching into his war instincts is like something written out of a horror movie... That firefight is a frightening piece of footage
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Countless firefights and live combat probably wired those movements and reactions into his entire being, Vietnam vets probably think about what they did every single day still. You can never forget certain things and sometimes they leave a permanent stain on your soul, most were 19-20 years old.
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14 likesI’ve stupidly watched my fair share of graphic videos on the internet but for some really strange reason the Murder it Kyle Dinkheller has really effected me...
Can’t get it out of my head.
Like you said, it’s his switch from dancing around in the street to cold blooded murder, executing an already wounded man with a headshot.
Yet I feel so sorry for that guy ( obv not in this moment)
He was a John Rambo Kind of Veteran. Really, really dangerous man. A war hero and excellent tactician.
5 likes@Tracchofyre not sure about his tactics myself but yea
0 likesYeah that was some joker type shit
3 likesI also want to point out something: Why would you EVER want to release someone like Andy B into Normality? I mean, what if severe PTSD is not a sickness but a kind of super adaptation to extreme situations? Why would you release someone like this into normal life?
0 likesWhy not let him stay in the Army? This guy could out of shape and dozens of years after his war duty overpower an american police officer like he was nothing. Why would you release someone like this into normal life?
Why not let him stay in the Army? Let him do training, promote him, educate other Infantry guys? Let him stay close to you, just in case a war breaks out. This is so terrible waste. I always thought to myself why the Army EVER let John Rambo go. I mean it is so nonsensical.
JSC you need an Academy Award for best short documentary for this shit damn!!
1 likeThis addiction started with
1 likeWhat pretending to be crazy looks like
I'm feeling real bad for Andy then I hear the name Kyle Dinkheller and I know I'm gonna be feeling bad for everyone in a moment
0 likesThat intro is a freaking masterpiece.
4 likesPoor Moses 😞
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he was the best part of this story
96 likesWar created this problem and Moses made the best attempt at giving Andrew a life worth living and stopping him from doing something like murder but it was too difficult 😕
200 likesWhat about Moses? I don't see it killed or something terrible... Poor brainwashed kids that were led to those senseless wars, to "defend USA" 2000 km away I'd say. Even if they were to survive they were victims of PTSD.
83 likes@Milan Borizovski I read that Moses survived the shooting and the arrest, and most likely lived out his days with a family member.
112 likesoh damn didn't expect to see you here, 2 seperate channels youtube randomly brought to me, brought together
5 likesGot me teary eyed
2 likes@Milan Borizovski the war they fight 2000km away is just as bad as the war they must fight at home
5 likes@B. P. I hope that's the case. Otherwise you are simply kind for trying to alleviate worries 😰
5 likes@Milan Borizovski Majority of US soldiers were drafted during the war, sick bastard those politician. Most doesn't even want to fight, it's survival. I fucking hate the reality of it, it saddened me..
8 likes@Milan Borizovski I've been to Vietnam and befriended my oldest friends there. It's a beautiful country, it's sad that the politicians are still divided into south and north ideas. The north politicians tend to have higher rank than their southern counterpart, and the south still maintain an active opposition in the political stage. However they agree that during the American War, they both wanted peace and freedom for their country unlike North and South Korea that see eachother as rivals. Hell, majority of Northern "communists" during the war couldn't even read. It was a tragedy, but I'm happy that the current state of the nation is stable than their neighboring countries in the region.
4 likesFancy seeing you here Johnny. Watching all these vids too eh? They are pretty fun/interesting. Not as fun as Cartoons that Curse though.
0 likesOh hey you like his content, too! Love your analysis videos!
0 likes@wao you can be concerned about multiple things at once
9 likes@Milan Borizovski probably got dog ptsd or something idk
1 likethis video have fewer views than others youtube is controlling this channel number of views i hope this doesn't affect the quality of newer videos because basiclly youtube right now is tolding the creator what to post and what to not and if the channel uploads something that doesn't fit with youtube point of view the video would not being shown to anybody which is a huge waste of the creator time and effort
0 likes@Jam It would've affected the quality of videos a while ago. This video was made in 2020.
2 likesFuturama sucked!
2 likesDidn’t expect to see you here @Johnny 2 Cellos
1 likeoh shit hello bojack horseman guy
1 likeLove your vids dude
1 likehey its the bojack guy
1 like"I'm glad to be getting out of this place..."
0 likesRIP.
@Tannhaüser Truth. Mohammed Ali was drafted, he refused and was sent to prison for it. I gained a lot of respect for him when I leaned about that.
0 likesYOURE HERE?
0 likesI am an atheist, but God bless those officers and policemen. They must be some of the best people on the planet.
0 likesTo give some credit to Andrew. those bullet dodging moves were incredible
4 likestotally random but it bothered me how the police kept talking about markeith killing "that unborn baby" but not the girlfriend
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I believe that's a psychological talk to subliminally (unless, had the officer explained or elaborated) emphasise on the pure soul that was killed rather than the girlfriend who's like us all, are not that pure considering the annoyance and hate we might have caused unto others and in this case, him.
5 likesThat emphasis is directly to say without saying he's the worst monster one could ever be.
But well, in the end of the day, it's the veteran who was executed; a government forced person with mental conditions, product of their own doing - and not him who's apparently the real self-made monster.
All because people were seeing from one particular perspective, and not the bird's eye view 😭
It makes sense. He meant to kill his girlfriend, their best bet was to center the action around an innocent (his unborn child) to force empathy, instead of the target of his wrath ( his actual target) .
2 likesRight in the feels.
1 likeThis guy needs to get a job producing docuseries for Netflix or something, all the videos are too sick
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Honestly!😃 His voice secluded without background music in some of his videos makes the videos more mysterious and outlandish😊
6 likesOh my man jcs going places for sure
0 likesFuck netflix, do it on your own jim
16 likesNetflix isn't the best form of recognition, Youtube is probably more used. I won't use such services, so I'm grateful that this is here! I want such channels to stay.
15 likesJust a narration for a group that produces and develops the vids. Go check out his channel
2 likeshonestly
0 likesNah Netflix would honestly ruin it. Big studios and companies like that don't know how to keep their hands off the production. They always want to mold it into their own corporate friendly agenda driven narrative.
2 likesSome things are better off done independently.
Sources: worked in Hollywood for years.
With the amount of views he's getting here, it's probably paying more anyway lol
2 likesWhat a video! Thanks for making this
0 likesI am amazed by the quality of this video. Speechless.
0 likesI don’t know what was specifically problematic about this video that YouTube gave two disclaimers.
1 likeMy grandfather can't talk about being in the Marines during either Vietnam war, even makes me cry 😢
0 likesThe last statement of Andy B. made me weep. He was clearly in need of help, and nobody could help him. His last thoughts were to extend his apology to the family, and to be proud of his service. I'm weeping as I type this. Just a tragedy for everyone.
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Those are the people who got crushed in the wheels of justice and didnt deserved it.
21 likesLove you man
5 likesHe danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do with any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did NOT dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged, nothing else. Hundreds of people had PTSD from Vietnam: they didn't kill anyone. NO DAMN EXCUSES FOR MURDERERS.
11 likes@Raphaella Victoria he did that so the cop would shoot him. Our government failed this man and many others like him just to fuel a war filled with ego. It was a rich man’s chess game
34 likesIt’s truly sad, one of those things you watch and you have a huge headache cause it’s so painful to watch. Sad for everyone involved, the officer, the vet, but he prob found the most peace in death. Hopefully he met all his family and fallen comrades after he moved on. Rip
1 like@Raphaella Victoria You're way wrong here and clearly haven't been around enough people with PTSD. Actually that dancing and erratic behavior IS something that happens to soldiers with PTSD. I take it your ignorance stems from never seeing a video of WW1 vets with PTSD, used to be called shell shock. They show in the videos men doing EXACTLY what happened. Odd walking gaits, what looks like strange dances and movements. Your comment is completely ignorant and you need to actually talk to a psychologist about what PTSD actually entails. It's even more striking that you presented such biased and ignorant info with such assertion that you were correct. That soldier wasn't evil; his mind fragmented and it was a ticking time bomb before he either committed suicide or hurt someone and it was out of his control. If he wanted to mass murder, or murder police, he would have shot up a police station or mall. Just stop the PTSD hating and please actually learn what these people go through. NO ONE is saying shooting the cop was right, but you also have to understand Andy was not in his right mind all!
18 likes@chris I mean, why did he shoot the woman execution style 5 times?
0 likes@Raphaella Victoria How can a "person with no empathy and no tolerance for certain types of people" be a psychiatrist? An actual psychiatrist is supposed to be able to assess both the mental and physical aspects of psychological issues. And, no, @Ren_C is not in the minority here ... I've spent the last thirty minutes reading comments from this video and most of them sympathize with or can relate to people dealing with PTSD without excusing their behavior.
14 likesThis is a pretty charged topic, but I do personally think state of mind matters for anything. After all, we leverage consequences for crimes to mete out justice, a sort of equivalence of suffering or some token of it, and to act as a deterrent. If a person gladly kills and would kill again, then they don't bear the burden of conscience that another person would.
2 likesAnd it's further complicated in the case of true mental illness.. where the line between human and beast breaks down. You would not put down an animal out of "retribution", you're merely handling a dangerous threat. But then, does this mean we hand out capital punishment to all the mentally ill? Obviously not, because humanity still exists there.
@WanderingYankee EXACTLY! I if psychiatrists are like her no wonder he ended up in a firefight with a cop. Jesus. Dr. Hannibal Lecter would provide better therapy. The system failed this man and continues to fail our servicemen and women. I can't believe in 2021 we're STILL blaming vets for the trauma our governments put them through. He watched a comrade be blown apart in front of him and people are questioning the validity of his PTSD. People get PTSD from way less and it NEVER goes away; I have family members and friends who suffer from it every single day and when a PTSD attack takes over, dancing in the street is not outside the realm of possibility. I'm certainly not saying killing is good or anything, but it's clear Andy B wasn't in his right mind. Juries make mistakes on convictions all the time as lawyers can be very convincing and outright manipulative of facts in a case. Andy shouldn't have been put to death as he clearly was not in reality mentally after the war.
3 likes@Raphaella Victoria I just can't understand a psychiatrist just assuming "He's beyond saving and a murderer. And because he killed a man he's not worth understanding" when the man was clearly in the middle of an episode. Andy B probably wasn't even shooting at a cop in his mind in the moment. That man was back in the war that the government put him in. In the mind of a vet suffering from PTSD, the war never ends. That's the horrible part. Any sound, sight, or smell can set him off and send him right back to the hell some sociopath of a politician put him in. We can't blame vets for losing when they get back. They go through hell and come back and are left broken, with no job and no money. It's no wonder they end up committing suicide most of the time. As someone with a grandpa who was in the Korean War, it's so sad that so many vets come home to be faced with scorn from wars they didn't want to fight in. My grandpa was lucky to not have crippling PTSD, most people's grandpas from WW2, Korea, or Vietnam aren't so lucky.
2 likes@Ren C thank you for reading my rant; but haven't we all watched enough of these shows, about murderers and such, haven't we all read enough about the victims, to indeed not care about the monsters? im not talking as a psychiatrist when it comes to this. Yes, people do have PTSD and people go through hell, and it's horrible. Those people don't kill anyone. People are abused in childhood and horribly scarred, they don't kill anyone. No matter what someone claims made him do it, there is always someone out there who's been through the same thing, and didn't kill anyone. Especially unprovoked. No, there are no excuses. But obviously i have nothing against the unfortunate people who have suffered (but didn't go out shooting a poor cop who didn't harm him).
3 likes@Raphaella Victoria First off, this looks like a case of attempted suicide by cop, judging by his erratic and dangerous behaviour and him being happy to go in the end. And PTSD is way more of a grey scale than whatever you're spewing, It's them re-living their trauma. You're a "psychiatrist", you should know this at least. The path that led him down to this point was obvious, he was a man who was well-trained to kill, who watched over a dozen of his comrades die around him. So whilst he had a gun drawn on him and an officer yelling orders, his mind seems to have forced him back into the horrors of war. in that state of panic and stress, his combat training was the only thing his brain could've resorted to, and thus the officer was killed. And there are other cases like this by the way, way worse even; one of which was even told in this exact video, but it seems you missed that too.
2 likes@Raphaella Victoria I think it just has to do with individual people's minds. Not everyone would react the same way to a given stressor. I think the vast majority don't kill either, but when we're looking at a soldier who's beaten down by the military and built up to be a killing machine, he would default to violence during an episode more readily than you or I. At least that's the way I see it anyway. In any case, I feel it might just be best to agree to disagree as I think the issue is more multifaceted than Andy B being a bad person or not. I don't believe he was anyway; I just think the military turns men into beasts and then expects them not to crack in the worst conditions imaginable. Then they chuck them back into society, broke and alone, without helping them conquer their trauma. Truly sad. It's no wonder so many vets commit suicide.
3 likes@Raphaella Victoria lol if you're a psychiatrist I'm the bloody pope
3 likes@Raphaella Victoria
2 likes"Nobody should care about the murderer's state of mind"
I surely hope you were speaking out of anger because a psychiatrist saying THAT is clearly the dumbest thing one could say
Wether you want to play it by Logic or Law
It is never right to kill someone but to ignore the circumstances and not trying to learn about what and WHY it happened is clearly not something a psychiatrist should say
If you are not trying to help people recover from their mental illnesses and avoid this kind of thing from happening just by stating your opinion as law while not even understanding the circumstances then I beg of you: quit your job.
By the way saying "I'm a Psychiatrist" doesn't count as proof just saying..
@Raphaella Victoria
1 like"Yes, people do have PTSD and people go through hell, and it's horrible. Those people don't kill anyone" is clearly contradicted by the very video a person with PTSD killed a man. You can't generalize every person.
"People are abused in childhood and horribly scarred, they don't kill anyone" ma'am you should watch the news more oftenly. They Do.
Not every killer has been abused, scarred or has PTSD and not every abused, scarred or person with PTSD kill
But, you need to understand that people who have had violent experiences where the only answer was to fight with no opportunity to flight then they will most likely use such violence when feeling threatened
Many people with PTSD are treated. They receive medication and help from people that have a similar profession as yours. And they most likely won't kill
That man, he didn't received more attention from his psychiatric and as said in the video had been the longest without the medication
Looks like society didn't care of a crazed man in the woods, armed and without proper help or medication
And guess what happened a police officer who was trying to do his job and didn't know about the situation with this man excited him, he was clearly confused, altered, mad, etc and responded.
He didn't do what your model utopian citizen would do, he did what a person who has been traumatized, didn't receive help, was left alone because that clearly was going to solve anything, armed, confused and he made the mistake that took the life of an innocent man
Instead of worrying about how the hell did we break a human so badly he killed another man all you care about is what he did, we have to care about what he did and why he did it
The penalty be it right or wrong it happened.
The police officer It truly saddens me but died unfairly
The untreated soldier died as well
They aren't just numbers you know? They are people.
@Raphaella Victoria No excuses for murderers, true, but there are always reasons. Those reasons are almost always so complex and numerous that they are impossible to fully unlock.
0 likes@Raphaella Victoria I completely understand what you are saying and agree with part of it. I fully agree that there are no justifications or excuses to kill someone in cold blood 99.9% of the time. That being said, everything we do in every moment of life we are doing them for a reason. That reason may be for serotonin, it may be for some delayed gratification, it may be for sick pleasure. Regardless, you will find a reason if you only seek it.
1 likeIf you truly are a psychologist, which I am experiencing some doubt about, then you should very well know that these reasons can become distorted in the minds of the mentally ill. For example, a person with OCD may think, “I must feed my fish five pellets per day at exactly 24 hours since its last feeding. If I feed it four, it will waste away and die of starvation. If I feed it six, it will explode because it will be too full.” This perception in the mind of the mentally ill person is a fact. They don’t believe it, they know it. Nothing could convince them that reality is otherwise despite the irrationality of it.
That is what mental illness is. It is irrational. It is a chemical imbalance. It is a learned dysfunction. It could be all of those. A person with bipolar disorder who has a manic or dissociative episode and kills someone should not be held responsible for that crime. They didn’t do it. They should be held responsible in the sense that they are taken to a facility where they can live safely while keeping others safe in the process.
When you say some people are horribly scarred as children, I assume you are talking about sexual abuse. You are correct, they don’t all go out and kill people, but a disproportionate amount of them DO go out and commit sexual crimes. There is not and will never be an excuse to rape or sexually abuse another human but you must admit that this shows clearly that there are always reasons even for the most heinous of acts.
So when you say this person was not experiencing a PTSD “episode,” I encourage you to look again.
What you may find upon a second analysis is a person who has no regard for his own life. Perhaps even more convincing, he has no regard for his dog’s life or the effect that his actions will have on his dog. I think this clearly shows that he is suicidal. He wants to die, and he wants the officer to kill him. He realizes the officer is not going to kill him without more cause, so he retreats to his truck to get his gun. Perhaps it was the act of retreating. Perhaps it was his hands on his gun in a stressful situation. Perhaps he felt confident that his plan was going to work and that he was going to die, so his PTSD-ridden brain switched into fight mode as per his training. Whatever the specific trigger, he was triggered and he killed the officer during the resulting episode.
@Raphaella Victoria The fact you think we are defending a criminal and murderer is beyond everyone’s understanding. Just because we get why he did it doesn’t mean we are defending him. Your about page says the same thing because like other ignorant people, you fail to see the actual truth in what lies beyond the state of mind and what goes on through their head. If you have no empathy for psychopaths, murderers, etcetera, then you shouldn’t be recognized as a psychologist. A psychologist wouldn’t act like how you are acting, which is why this account you have is an alter ego account because you’re too ashamed to have the real account out there due to the fact that you are insecure about your own feelings. You are insecure about them because you know you are in the wrong and put out something that can’t be backed up as “true,” and I say this as your claim to be a psychologist. It doesn’t matter if your personal opinions clash with that of your job. If you feel that way then by all means quit speaking of your own volition or speak out of your job because the way you are acting contradicts that of your job title. As a psychologist you are supposed to help people, acknowledge people. A cop can easily be a murderer as well. The fact you think certain people are labeled as murderers and killers when the opposite side does the same is beyond my understanding. We kill animals for food. We MURDER animals for food. Cops MURDER suspects to survive, themselves. It is only just not branded that way due to the way it played out. Cops are heroes who murder. Murderers are evil people who murder. So are soldiers. Vietnamese people murdered the American marines and the same way did the Americans do that to the Vietnamese. So get your facts straight before you bias an opinion on someone who was deemed UNSTABLE and call him out for being a murderer when you know damn well we all murder and eat things that used to be something of living. Even PLANTS are alive, and we murder them too. So to think that if you were to use the vegan excuse here would definitely be unruly. Everything that you eat is living. Everything. Meaning we murder for our survival. The point is not that it is justified, but that everyone is a murderer. Everyone. Some are just worse than others. So deal with the fact of that of which the cop AND the suspect are both murderers, one is just worse due to his medical condition, which he was DIAGNOSED WITH PTSD, CLINICALLY DIAGNOSED. And to call him a murderer. He was acting symptomatic to that of PTSD. While it should not be justified it should have at least been taken into account. Being killed via lethal injection is also murder, but an eye for an eye, think about it, does that seem like justice to you?
2 likes@Raphaella Victoria My take is this young cop was somewhat aggressive for a simple speeding ticket, and Andy who put his life on the line, felt disrespected. That doesn't give him the right to kill. He appeared to want to commit suicide by cop. After the cop started shooting his training kicked in. He would have left the cop, if he hadn't tried to shoot him when he left. He returned to kill him. Life in prison might have been a better option in this case.
0 likesPoor guy. All the death and suffering he must have witnessed there... and losing his brothers too... I think he died back there, but it never caught up to him. in the dashcam you can even see him being erratic and goading the officer to shoot him, provoking him and not listening.
0 likesAndy B never came home 😔. Rest In Peace to that officer
1 like"He saw his commanding officer get blown to pieces, lost a total of 14 comrades and would be diagnosed with severe PTSD... and THEN disaster struck"
0 likesfooking hell.
The graphic HORROR of the first 1:30 will never leave me. Was the footage from a film? Or was all filming just the U.S. making sure their pilots flew true, and that the bombs WERE effective. Just watch, I think it is Journeymen, for a glimpse of what Agent Orange wrought 2-3 generations later. Sickening, disgraceful...But I fully support the men and women of the military, even IF, High Command, was faulty, which IT WAS...how embarrassing. And our VETERANS STILL SUFFER from CPTSD, lack of funding for their care, lack of emotional/behavioral support, when the bloodfest was finished...OMG.
0 likesThat poor officer was scared and didnt want to kill him...I wish that officer were still here
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I feel the same it truly breaks my heart to think of how good of a person he must have been. And to have such compassion in a moment like that. RiP
117 likes@Sun Flower yup
2 likesOfficer should be allowed to tactical retreat against crazy person.
26 likes@AaronThePerson Yes. But retreating isn't really an option, just calling for backup and hoping the person isn't going to fight the arrest.
4 likesyou could hear the fear in his voice, breaks my heart
59 likesAll he had to do was to not draw his gun like a power-tripping idiot. Then the veteran wouldn't have felt threatened. And you do not fucking threaten a soldier, they'll kill you without so much as second thoughts, let alone any regrets.
18 likes@Mi 28 Did cop draw his gun before Andy B. showed him the rifle?
4 likesWow this thread is full of erroneous statements, I don’t even know where to start. I’ll start w @Leslie P : that’s not why cops get shit.. I’ve literally never heard a complaint about a cop not sacrificing their life to catch a criminal. You’re creating a narrative that doesn’t not exist. Cops get shit for using excessive force. The cop that got shot by the Vietnam vet made so many mistakes it’s no surprise that he died. It’s unfortunate, but ultimately has to do with lack of training or this man simply not having the spine for dealing with an armed suspect. He panicked. It seems abundantly clear that police are much better at dealing with unarmed perps, and they often have no issues using lethal force when it is far from necessary, and they are practically never held to account in those scenarios. As for everybody just generally praising this cop; the only appropriate feeling is pity. His death is embarrassing. And to anyone saying he “didn’t want to kill the guy” I can only give you the slow clap. You’re delusional to think that this cop was knowingly giving his life to spare another. He panicked and shot all over the place. That’s not even in the same universe as what ours implying. I get it.. you love cops. You love authority. Good for you, but for gods sake, don’t be retarded. Unless you’re a retard, there’s just no excuse.
24 likesFinally a comment on one of the innocent victims in the clip. I'm sure his family wishes the same.
2 likes@bre barrera You are completely wrong, go watch the raw footage. The police officer drawn the gun first, opened fire first, and topped it off with shooting into veteran's back as he was walking away having let him live the first time. This is your typical police brutality scenario, except this time around the victim had the upper hand and came out on top. Maybe if more pigs were slaughtered by responsible citizens then maybe America wouldn't have the BLM riots over police brutality.
17 likes@Leslie P supreme court ruled officers have no duty to act
3 likes@Mi 28 Your facts about the video are correct. Cop drew his gun first and set the old guy off. Cop opened fire first, starting the firefight. Cop reloaded and then shot at Andy while he was leaving which made him return and finish the cop off. I don't think he was 'asking for it' though, just had no idea how to deal with someone with mental illness. And either cop ego or training to disregard retreat as an option will always lead to escalation. Kyle shouldn't have died that night and maybe Andy is better off not having to suffer PTSD, but no one had to die over a speeding ticket.
15 likes@TheChronographer thank you for being reasonable. these other guys in this thread have no compassion for either side; one saying more cops deserve to die and the other saying the cop did nothing wrong. neither of those are correct
9 likes@Keyboard Warrior Well, dont give them guns.
0 likes@Mi 28 LMAO that was a radio or a baton not his gun.. are you serious? Shortly before this incident happened, The cop in this video was told by his high ranking officers that he was too quick to draw the gun, hence he didnt draw the gun until it was too late because the opponent already had his rifle out. The initial shot from the cop was actually a warning shot, not a deadly one.
1 like@Le best A hardened veteran would pull out a rifle on unarmed cop. Riiiight. Something tells me it would go the other way around.
0 likesthey hinted that the officer was very vigilant with speeders. So he is used to being somewhat arrogant, and when he crossed paths with the wrong guy, he didn't back up his tough talk. I think cops need to be very very humble, and not antagonize people or take their tremendous authority to their ego. I guess they deal with people who is in their face all the time, and they develop this over aggressive posture, seemed to me on the original video, Andy felt disrespected. Maybe a kindler touch could have prevented the tragedy, not excusing Andy.
2 likes@Leslie P Thanks sir you're free to go, then you pick him up later. Didn't we learn anything from Trautman and Rambo?
0 likes@Mi 28 Oh, so the cop drew first, missed, then got shot. The veteran checked on him, and walked away, but the cop shot him in the back, THEN the veteran returned and finished him off? I'm getting a much clearer picture now. Seems like entire episode could have been avoided. I would have hung that jury to give Andy manslaughter.
0 likes@Scott Johnson Cops having bad marksmanship is completely common. He drew, opened fire and missed, at which point the veteran returned fire and injured the cop, then went back to his truck when the cop shot him in the back and hit him, which is when the veteran returned to kill the cop, this time aiming for the head.
0 likes@Scott Johnson Dude the reason he shot the dude in the back because andy shot the cop like 4 times, what else are you going to do? Its a life or death situation. Andy is the person at fault here, the cop gave too many chances. the cop didnt pull a gun at all, he was reluctant to because his sergeant told him before this incident that he was too reactive.
6 likes@Mi 28 Dude he planned to get killed by a cop didnt you see the video?
2 likesDied a hero
1 like40-ish years later and the Vietnam war claims another victim, a war fought for dubious reasons and with no lasting benefit.
1 likeHe had a choice, he chose to mess with a veteran, he could've just let him go
0 likes@Le best Firing a warning shot at an armed vet with PTSD is basically a death wish. Unfortunate, but are you really surprised at the outcome?
2 likes@Erik That doesnt justify killing a cop either lol, the cop had a gun aiming at him what else are you going to do?
2 likesI feel bad for both
0 likesSame.. truly breaks my heart what they're doing to Chauvin. He deserved better...
0 likesI'm sure that officers sacrifice has been used in countless training sessions and has saved an untold number of other officers. May he rest in peace.
0 likes@Le best Andy isn’t the one to blame. It’s our government who forced him into a brutal scenario and then left him in the dirt when they didn’t need him. You don’t train someone to be a stone cold killer and then expect them to come back into society as if nothing even happened.
2 likes@chris Ik he probaly had a PTSD flashback, but he purposely lured kyle into that secluded area to kill him.
1 likeThose kinds of officers tend to die. The wicked doesn't get sleep if ya get my drift.
0 likesThe dash cam footage is on Horror Stories channel. He really uh, went hard tbh.
0 likesThere's a high possibility that even if he wouldn't have been killed, he wouldn't be alive today, since this happened such a long time ago.
0 likes@Mi 28 Soldiers are not Rambos. This was a nut with a rifle. Nothing more.
0 likes@Thanosch Edelstein yeah man it's so fucking sad how when you commit a murder you get sentenced for it. How unfair
0 likesI don't understand how he walked away from that after flashing the gun. That was either a really good cop or the usual.
0 likesWow this is incredibly tragic
0 likesive watched a lot of these and it must hit a spot of deep emotion because this one made me cry
0 likesThis is so sad… we will never know what people went through during the war… we owe them our lives.
0 likesI love how you showcase the material and don’t make this about you. Although your personal contributions are subtle but outstanding.That is so rare on YouTube. Thank you for the great content.
89 likesMan, that Markieth guy just avoided the capital punishment just because of short term discomfort during his interrogation and blunts on his face upon his captivity while Andy, who suffered long term severe PTSD due to his horrible past, got in the gurney just because it's no one's fault? I feel sorry for Andy.
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He lost his eye
0 likesthey left out the part where andy makes his way around the car and you can hear the screams. its genuinely one of the most haunting clips on the internet.
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Oh god! Thank goodness they left that out, because even with all the pre-video warnings, I'm not sure I would have been prepared for that.
0 likesYeah it's awful, not only do you hear him screaming while being executed, you literally hear his death rattle and final breaths. It's immensely awful and somehow 90's era dashcam audio picked it all up.
1 like“i’m glad to be getting out of this place”
0 likesthanks for your service
RIP to Andy and to the officer
0 likes"Only the dead have seen the end of war."
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nice Rome Total War quote cuz i know u didnt read Plato
24 likesModern Warfare lol XD
14 likesLamb of God - Ashes of The Wake album is when I first read that quote. Such a metal yet tragic quote.
4 likes@Xavier Quiles Children of Bodom-Sixpounder. "Death? What-chu all know bout death" or Cobhc- Warhammer"from now on we are enemies, you and i". Random i know, epic quotes of metal! my metal brotha! Ha-ha-ha-ha!
1 like@Nathan Everson I used to LOVE Bodom man Alexi inspired me to play guitar growing up for YEARS. Stay metal 🤘🏽
1 likeMcRotty people say a lot of different people said it no one really knows
0 likesNever believed that and I'm a veteran with Chronic PTSD.
0 likesJacob Peters I actually got halfway through Aristotle’s Politics before some scumbag stole it from me. But, yeah, I don’t think our friend here reads Plato regularly.
0 likesAnd as Tobey McGuire would say “they say only the dead seen the end of war, I’ve seen the end of war. question is, can I live again?”
0 likesDaaaamn that's deep
1 like@Jansch Fingerings that’s never going to happen
0 likesThis reminds me of his last words right before his execution “I’m happy to be leaving this place”
1 likeMy dad was in Vietnam, The Big Red One. He was a cool ass dude. But you could tell, he was a stone cold killer. RIP
0 likes9:05 that reload, this video is tragic though.
2 likeswar is such a hell! and these poor souls are left in pieces afterwards! poor man, poor veterans :(
1 like5:50 if he is declared %100 disabled with ptsd, how come he is allowed to have a rifle ?
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I assume it was either just incredibly lax gun laws back then in America, or wasn't registered under his name and/or was a friend's/family's.
3 likesBecause disability was referring to receiving disability payments I would assume, not a legal statement of his competency.
2 likesI’m a 100% disabled combat veteran with PTSD (Afghanistan). Why should I not be ‘allowed’ to have a rifle? Why would receiving physical and/or mental injuries in service to my country ‘allow’ someone to violate my constitutionally guaranteed rights? Especially when Ive never had a speeding ticket much less commit a violent crime. Some of us do still hunt to put food on the table.
1 like@Kahless the Unforgettable 100% disabled. Still hunts. Pick one.
4 likes@Trollie McG its actually disgusting
0 likes@Kahless the Unforgettable its obvious why you shouldnt own a gun. Bye
0 likesin the military, percentage disability is equivalent to civilian disability - you can be 100% disabled if you have lasting leg injuries, for example. it doesn't mean you're not able, or not allowed, to do certain things. you can also be 100% disabled if you are unable to function due to traumatic history.
0 likesin regards to the question "should people with PTSD have firearms" - maybe it should be no, but there's no legislation explicitly saying so. VA Title 18 U.S.C. § 922 is the closest, stating that the applicant “must not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or been committed to a mental institution,” but there is no direct tie to PTSD due to PTSD being a mental health diagnosis rather than a mental institution admission.
it's definitely a question to be discussed legislature-wise, but right now there's lawfully against someone with PTSD owning a firearm. personally, i think it would be a case-to-case basis based on doctor's recommendation.
@sethja8 If someone is out and active enough to hunt they should be able to work a job and not leech off of disability benefits.
0 likesNGL that ending got me a little teared up. I think we've all seen that clip of Andrew Brannan killing that rookie cop and I had heard the killer was a vet but I never heard the details of his life story and now can't help but feel an overwhelming sense of pity.
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It made me tear up too. Such a tragedy.
12 likesI'm in the exact same boat.
2 likesSame here(
1 like@Slothassasin thank you for your service
2 likes@poopwaffle I mean I haven’t done anything besides deploy to Okinawa man lol, you don’t need to thank me
6 likes@Slothassasin
1 likeHonorable service, is worthy of gratitude.
If you wanna do great things, vist a VA state side and continue to be a good person when you are out.
@Knunya Beasewhacks Yeah I was looking into going into medicine and going back into the military at some point!
0 likes@Slothassasin Exact same boat as you man; was stationed in Oki, got out last year, now working toward being a doctor. Oki was the shit! Soapy Soapy lol jk. Anywho, Semper Gumby brother and hope you have awesome Marines like I had.
0 likes@awhellznah Rah dude, yeah get out this year and looking forward to starting the process!
0 likesI wrote above that I wept too. I did because my roommate from college killed himself after being infantry vet for marine corps in Iraq and Afganistan. I never understood why.
0 likesDeath penalty was wrong. He was failed by the system 100%. But the video of him was disturbing and horrifying. He murdered someone, ptsd is not an excuse. Murder is murder. We shouldn't think of him as innocent. Doesn't excuse the death penalty though.
2 likesYeah a broken mind that's what it is. Not evil.
1 like@Cho sjokolate THANK YOU! I have ptsd and it is NOT an excuse! You learn to properly deal with the shit on your own or you go get help. I’ve tried getting help and it only made me feel crazier, but I took the responsibility of helping myself learn and deal with my situation. He murdered that man and nothing can bring him back. I have zero pity for him.
2 likesPity? The guy killed an officer during what should have been an ordinary traffic stop. Who gives a shit about his life story
0 likesI lived through that era and many guys my age were drafted. I realized this was rather anxiety producing and sad so I’m bailing at 6:00.
1 likeA tragic and sad story all around…
0 likesI have seen the shootout footage before but had no idea the backstory. Mind fucking blown. This channel is so good!
0 likeswas it courage or him losing his mind.
0 likespeople that lose their mind and go manic do reckless and self-destructive things and don't care about their life or dying. this can certainly give the appearance of courage but its not, you are still scared. he said he was also in fear of his life, when the deputy said it first when he pulled him over.
Yt asked me twice if I was ready to watch this. Heavy Hitta and ofc yet another flawless production by JimCantSwim 🔥👏🏼💥
0 likesThe thankless veteran who has been psychologically tortured and mutilated gets death and the baby killer gets life, this is the world we live in.
1 likeWell that was more depressing than usual.
1 likeWhat did Lloyd have to do with Andrew? I watch these videos in segments as I only have my iPhone to watch them on. Perhaps I missed something. The guy who shot the pregnant woman and the female cop was too young to be a vet nor did he have PTSD. He seemed to simply be an asshole..
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Andrew: has severe PTSD; kills a cop,
1 likeGets death penalty
Loyd: kills a pregnant 24 year old woman, shoots her brother, then kills a cop, all this while wearing a vest, only gets life in prison
It's shows how stupid and broken the judicial system is
The point of this video is that video can influenced judge's perception on a case. That's why Lloyd only get life imprisonment instead of death penalty while Andrew got death sentence. Yes US has its own issues with judiciary system yet this is not the case.
0 likesI understand that man killed their coworker and friend, but how tf are you gonna tell a blinded man to open his eyes? In this situation I feel like they should have given him the best medical attention so that mf would have less than zero excuses to have any leniency in court. Isn’t the point of being an officer, detective, and interrogator is that you’re supposed to let go of your emotions in the interrogation room?
0 likesThis actually feels like a movie to watch.
0 likesI have ptsd from a few things, one of them being my service. Seems these guys had enough wits about them to find help.
0 likeshow is this the least viewed JCS video ? it's actually incredible & ridiculously interesting.
0 likesYou deserve your own show on a streaming content provider. The way you lay out an events facts, and interweave the important psychological aspects of each case is truly a gift. I can’t wait to see you receive a budget from a studio and put together a whole season of hour long case studies. It would be in the top 10 most watched shows the week it came out on Netflix or wherever it was released, no doubt in my mind. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
24 likesI just love JCS’s voice.
8 likesRegarding Loyd's actions. What he did was despicable. He was afforded life in prison over the death penalty for the brutality of his treatment by the police both during and after arrest. They can state what they want about the reason they beat him at time of arrest but to then outwardly treat him as they did after is why Loyd was spared. The jury agrees Loyd deserves punishment and also punishment isn't to be inflicted in an inhumane way that goes against basic rights set forth by the law of our country and is without exception. If the police had treated him with composed apathy and not reduced themselves to acting at Loyd's level of disrespect and disregard for human life, Loyd would have seen the death penalty. The veto of the death penalty in this case was the juries way of saying they wouldn't reward cruel and criminal behaviour from the Police but also they recognize the actions taken by Loyd required severe punishment. Thus life in prison.
0 likesThis was a very touching segment!
0 likesIn reference to Andy B ,That is a classic fight or flight response, affiliated with PTSD
0 likesThis is truely one of the most saddest videos I've ever seen. Andrew Brannan did kill a police officer, but it was due to his severe PTSD which was compounded by the deaths of his brothers and his isolation after the war. Even though he killed that cop, its always extremely disheartening when I hear that quote from him at the end expressing guilt and sorrow for what he did and how it made the cop's family feel. What's even sadder is when he says "I'm happy to be getting out of this place." This made me realize the absolute devastation that war does to the minds of young men and women. It's very surreal when I first heard he was 21 on his first deployment, and that I'm that age now and I couldn't even begin to imagine the how seeing 14 of your comrades and friends be blown into pieces would alter your mind.
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Hey pinko, go watch the actual non edited video. It's terrifying. The screams of that young man getting gunned down by highly trained and highly unstable killer.
0 likes@Chad Sauce?
0 likesWhat a sad situation all around.
1 likePTSD is tragic 😢
1 likeMy heart is aching. So terribly painful to see what us humans are capable of doing to each other. So much senseless pain & death.
0 likesit’s crazy to think markeiths life was potentially saved by the mistreatment of the police
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0 likesIm a nurse and back in 2015 i worked on a dementia unit in a nursing home. We took in a patient once who was a nurse during the Vietnam War. He had been diagnosed with severe PTSD and dementia and was deemed too severe to remain in the community any longer. In the morning he'd be perfectly pleasant, get himself dressed. Yet Everyday around 4pm there was a change that came over him. He'd loose all affect, he'd turn the bill of the baseball cap around and start stalking the unit. His wife once told me that he was a sniper during the war as well. Hed get really aggressive and scared all of the other patients and ended up having to have one-to-one staff watch every evening. It was like he was a totally different person. You couldn't talk to him or anything he'd be a totally different person, mumbling under his breath and was quick to swing on anyone (staff or patient) who got close to him. He would sometimes baracade himself in his room and always acted like he had to defend himself under attack.. The staff and family wanted him on Ativan 24/7 but we weren't allowed to give him any sedatives bc its considered a chemical restraint and the State kept saying that regardless of his mental consition there were other alternatives that had to be instituted and that his actions were violent enough to warrant being chemically sedated. In the end he became too much of a threat to the otherr patients (some of them were too confused to realize that they should've stayed away) and hed be on the attack. He ended up being transferred to a nursing home specifically for Vets.
138 likesAll that just to say war is mentally and physically damaging to everyone including the soldiers who fight the wars. It's really sad. imagine if war was fought btwn ghe country's leaders there would be less instances of combat
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Ah combative one to ones. I sure don’t miss being a CNA
3 likesKings should lead their armies.
3 likes@Asdayasman アズデイ agreed 100%
2 likesAsdayasman my grandma had Alzheimer’s. At 4pm, they get sundowner syndrome. Really difficult to have both PTSD and AD on top of that.
4 likes@Frank Diamond it was a struggle working with him honestly and quite sad because he was SOOOO nice in the morning. Always joking around with the staff and everything. But then he'd start sundowning and became an entirely new person. Plus, he was a big broad guy too and was wayyyyy too strong for us females to handle on days when he got really bad. He seemed to have always been a fairly jovial and pleasant person all his life according to his family. So to see him regress back to his war days in his old age almost seemed like he'd been holding in the memories after all these years. It was just sad
2 likesI worked at a dementia unit, just like the one you were at, also in 2015 funnily enough. I could only work there for one month before I caved, as I didn't have the emotional stamina to deal with elderly people who were just fragments of their former selves. We didn't have any veterans at my ward, but the most notable elders was one lady who always thought she was at an airport on the way to visit her family, a man who refused to be taken care of by women (he really liked me because I was the only male worker) and a man who also had tourette's, so he would twitch and shout profanities at people.
1 likeI was told to read the medical journals of the residents during break time so I could have more of an understanding of who they all were. The worst one I read was of a lady who had been the victim of domestic abuse for many years, and she was admitted to the elderly ward after she had attempted to take her own life by hanging herself. Right when she stepped off the chair, her son and grandchild walked into the room. Her son managed to save her before asphyxiating, as her neck hadn't broken from the hanging, miraculously. But while at the ward, she would just sit and watch the TV in her room 24/7 and only came out for meals.
A couple months after I stopped working there, an old co-worker and friend from there told me that lady had committed suicide by jumping off the balcony in the group room (the ward was on the 4th floor).
I have huge respect for nurses and other social workers who can stomach that environment. I thought I could, but I learned quickly how bleak and sad some peoples lives are.
The woman in the red shirt can really paint pictures with words. She is gifted.
0 likesJust imagine the worst thing you have ever been through , anything that shook you to the core . I don’t think it’s even close to what they went through but my point is , imagine it’s al over and ALL OF A SUDDON your back to normal , like nothing ever happened . One day fearing that bullet through your dome the next sitting wide open on your porch with people who had no clue what it was like . I have met a few people from Vietnam .. . They are all messed up . These are things you can never forget. Thank you sooo much to those who have risked their lives for my freedom . I pray for u and everyone else in the armed service , first responders and the rest of the hero’s . Truly , thank you 🙏🏻
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For Your freedom? Where are you from?
0 likes@Vladimir Melnikov I’m not going to do this with you , un doubted your going to make some lame ass argument ….
0 likesThe ending was so sad but lovely with the music too
0 likesI'm sorry, "he's going to kill me, I'm not going to live past 25" how tf, when tf is that ever funny?! That's exactly why I'm gone at the first hint of crazy I've learned to never underestimate what a person is capable of! 🥺🥺😨😨😨
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Forreal. That video was weird asf
0 likesAbsolutely brilliant editing. You tie together cases that have nothing to do with eachother to drive home a larger point. You are a genius.
62 likesMy grandfather's got shrapnel in his forehead from the same grenade that killed his best friend. But legends never die
0 likesSuch a well put together video
0 likeshis last words are heartbreaking
0 likesthe fact that loyd was allowed to continue using oxygen is disgusting.
0 likesVietnam broke my father. He came back to a world that hated him, when he left as a boy he was told "save the world". Remember, we're all more than we show and we all hurt more than you'll know.
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Youve got one of the most brutal cruel government of the world. In europe we see you a bit like stuck in the colonisation period. Still killing people as a punishment n stuff.
23 likesI had a college roommate who did three tours in Afganistan, I wash shocked to hear he killed himself, last person I would suspect.
6 likesIs your father still among us? If so, tell him I said, "welcome home".
15 likes- Staff Sergeant E., Infantryman, Iraq/Afghanistan
@Swervin309 No, he was so shattered by the war that he drank heavily until it killed him. Thank you for the kind words.
16 likes@cecil keith I'm sorry to hear that. Until Valhalla.
4 likesMy dad says the same thing. Tell him Welcome home ❤️
0 likesI'm sorry for your loss. I'm German and too young for any wars but I have a friend in the US who went to Iraq. He is a good man. It seems to be the same thing time and again: The powerful lie to their people, lie them into aggression and then sacrifice them. War is wrong.
1 likeRemember, there were people on the other side of your father’s gun fighting for their land and their children..
6 likesHow do you think all those hundreds of millions of victims of America’s “democracy bombings” all around the world feel and what is their mental health like..?
@splifstar85 Probably as damaged as all of the victims of war. It isn't "us vs. them". We're all humans and until we stop murdering each other, we'll never heal.
10 likes@splifstar85 Just yours.
6 likessure, and did your father kill someone? this isn't relevant. If this police officer had been your father, you think you woud have cared? what if it had been YOU he had shot?
0 likes@Raphaella Victoria Raphaella, the world needs more compassion. Not more "what ifs"
3 likes@cecil keith sorry for your loss and the nasty comments. now you cant justify what the us goverment did and does.. you cant ask compassion when you are a war criminal
0 likes@Julieta Correa The concept of "no compassion" is the reason our planet will never know peace.
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0 likesI don't understand what you would want them to do, NOT listen to orders? Humans' relationship with authority is extremely frightening. An experiment where people re-enacted things Nazis did carry it out all because there was a higher authoritarian figure telling them to do so. Obviously, you do have a point, this was not a black and white situation, but I'm sure you're a reasonable guy, I'd dig more into it.
@Its Ozzy I think you are referring to the Milgram experiment - where he demonstrates how authority figures can make people commit acts they themselves consider unethical..
0 likesBut in my criticism of US war crimes I’m actually directing that criticism mostly on the government (the authority figures), though the soldiers these days do sign up on their own accord and thus carry some of the responsibility (however, in the case of this guy, if I remember correctly, during the invasion of sovereign Vietnam there was a national draft, thus men had to enlist and serve)..
But my point about this particular case is more in line with Dr Philip Zimbardo’s work as outlined in his book “The Lucifer Effect”..
In my opinion this guy should’ve been granted some leniency due to what the government MADE him go through (due to the compulsory draft)..
(and he clearly did not commit 1st degree murder - thus actually planned on killing someone, it was just a set of circumstances for which the government is at least partially responsible!!)
and perhaps he should have been given a life sentence WITH parole at some point, rather than death
@Raphaella Victoria well if it had been me/him (“you” as you put it) who had been shot, I doubt I/him would be cable of experiencing feelings of this Earthly existence, such as caring... so in that regard your point is mute..
0 likesBut in regard if it were my father.. I would want revenge at first for sure (“an eye for an eye”, as it says in the Old Testament)..
but after learning his story, I’d like to believe that I would feel compassion towards him, in accordance to the (new testament) of the Holly book..
@cecil keith 🙏
0 likes@Der Stoff aus dem der Joghurt ist If you're French, your state is literally doing worse to Africa right now, than the US could do in twice the time.
1 like@Der Stoff aus dem der Joghurt ist lol bro we went in there for France. And y'all send contingents to the ME with us, even swiss troops have been over there with us. Lulz. No room to talk. Y'all just pretend you aren't literally there with us.
2 likesgood bless him, war is the closest to hell man can travel while still on this side of the mortal curtain, to have his fellow countrymen revile him due to pop culture propaganda and his government forget him is an insult beyond measure.
2 likes@Tevo77777 I don’t know about right now..
1 likebut compared to what the French had done to some African nations in the past, US doesn’t even come close to that level of carnage (when it comes to Africa)..
@splifstar85 The worst thing America has done, most recently, was allow Americans to "go home" and rule over their distant cousins.
0 likesLiberia has suffered.
Peanuts compared to what Belgum, UK, France, and Portugal did.
This shook me so much but I’m glad I watched
0 likesI’m crying for Andrew after watching this.
1 likehey I've been to that veteran's hospital. I can't remember the circumstances exactly but it must have been related to my mom's boyfriend at the time. anyway.
0 likesThis tell us the conclusion that the Media can be misunderstood, but at the same time tell us that War is hell and can change your entire life
1 likeNo sympathy whatsoever for the dude who killed his pregnant girlfriend.
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12 likestoo bad the jury did just because of a little retribution footage. makes you wonder if they even knew what he did, or if all they saw was the interrogation footage.
111 likesBut you have sympathy for the other cop killer? Okay.
54 likesThe trials and sentencing of these two men relative to the antecedent to and nature of their crimes is eye opening, to say the least.
33 likesWhat if it was your son that lost his mind from PTSD and did it? Bet you'd feel differently.
63 likesThat's expected though. We humans are very self centered still
@Mario Calabrese The veteran was the guy who shot the one cop. The man who murdered his girlfriend, baby and the cop was not a veteran with ptsd. On the contrary he was already a kmown criminal. He had no excuse whatsoever except 'the police already punched me so just let me off with murder :)' and the court system somehow did and called that justice. Meanwhile the vet got the death penalty no mercy.
221 likesHe is a true devil.... smh
13 likesYeah. Like, who cares if the interrogation wasn't happy time.
57 likesI don't support Evildoers in anyway ever
8 likesI just want fairness Equality For ALL but you are not like that
@Truth Seeker Always Yeah, life for a known criminal, murdering three people on two seperate occasions, with no excuse like ptsd caused by being a veteran. While the death penalty goes to the veteran with ptsd who had a mental break and killed one person because of it. I think that's unfair and you think I'm a white supremacist, bet you wouldn't be saying that if the races were flipped huh? You sure it's not you who's the racist? You can't say you're for equality and not agree that these cases were handled unequally considering their history, who they killed, and that one was killed for the lesser crime and the other was allowed to live for the worse crime.
69 likesReally? Police are supposed to be above this type of retribution. Kicking him in the face? Wishing he was dead? If you can't do the job of policing, then you don't deserve to wear the uniform. It's pathetic, sorry. We are better than that. Well, I thought we were. This fraternal order is BS too - you don't stick together, you follow the letter of the law. PERIOD.
58 likesI feel you. But it isn't the cops' job to exact vengeance. Kicking a suspect's eye out, deliberately cuffing him too tight, and most of all denying medical care, is simply unprofessional. All the officers involved or consenting by their non interference should be fired, and the ones who kicked him in the face while he was flat on the ground should be prosecuted. There's no other way to make this thug behavior stop.
46 likes@Roger Lewis Agreed. Rather than lessen the sentance of a dangerous, ruthless murderer, they should have tried and punished the cops who broke the law themselves.
23 likesExactly! Those cops were VERY KIND to him as far as I'm concerned.
22 likes@Truth Seeker Always why did you call the lady a "white supremacist"?
22 likesThe simple FACT that the officers were not even charged with a crime is the issue at hand WORLDWIDE. Police are servants. They are not Big Brother. They do not get to exact revenge for either a dead woman or a fellow officer. If you are willing to accept this behavior, then you can't cry when it's one of your family members who gets kicked in the face or even you. Wait.....you didn't do anything wrong? Too bad, you just let the cop be the judge and jury. You lose an eye for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
25 likesThe point was not sympathy. It's (in theory but underutilized) an accountability and incentive system. Don't like the perp because he hurt one of your own/something personal? Let that affect your job and following the letter of the law? Fine, but then you won't get the conviction you want and the perp lives. The jury rightfully contested the legality of the perps arrest and interrogation, partially so that in the future, those cops CANT get away with not following the law AND seeing the conviction they wanted. Of course, what this perp in particular did IS heinous, don't get me wrong, but when it's as important as police/penal proceedings, the rights of the suspect must remain preserved as per the defined and amendable conventions of criminal law.
18 likes@Rayat R Are you sure it's underutilized and not simply ineffective? For regular people a dissentive to beating people half to death or murdering them, is jail time. You lose your job, your relationships, your basic comforts, your freedom, your life basically for however long you are sentanced for. Those years are lost. That's a much bigger dissentive than having somebody else not get as bad a punishment for a crime.
7 likesLet's face it, that has little if not no impact on their lives at all in comparison to what regular people would be punished with if it were them and not police. This 'accountability and incentive system' does not appear to be working and I am not surprised.
@Truth Seeker Always YouTube the term YAH ONLY CHAPTER 2
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox You're right, actually I agree. Ultimately the families of the victims got it the worst - they had no part in his illegal police process and yet faced the greatest loss of potential "satisfaction" from the lesser sentence. What needs to happen is a retrial, renewed arrest process with an independent observer/attorney present, and then a fresh, fair and legal court case where he gets what is appropriate, and any involved cops also get what they earned, namely a paycheck for those that did the right thing and stopped the wrong, and commensurate penalty for those who did wrong/let wrong happen
5 likes@Truth Seeker Always you are unhinged.
7 likes@TIPDOG Easier said than done. We are humans with feelings that guide our actions, even the best of us.
2 likes@Luca Brasi True! I know it isn't a perfect world, but they had to know the chopper was getting video and probably (long before this incident) understood they would not be held accountable for kicking a cop killers eye out. But, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child.
4 likes@Sam He had to play hero. ACAB
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox yea because the police handled it horribly.
1 like@bee So? Does that mean the victims and their families shouldn't get justice? While the police who handled it horribly face no punishment either? Do you think that's the correct way for 'justice' to be served?
6 likesDisgusting criminals still have human rights, even though they didn’t respect the rights of others
7 likes@Life Hacks Youtube Dude with the Rock That's not really true. I think you mean accused disgusting criminals have human rights. Once people are convicted and prosecuted for disgusting crimes though, they lose human rights such as their freedom or in worst cases their life. Exemplified by the veteran with ptsd in this video: his right to live was officially revoked as soon as they found him guilty and decided his punishment would be death. Whether he was disgusting could even be debated, unlike the other guy he didn't mean to hurt anyone and he was remorseful, but you can't say he was still allowed his human rights.
6 likesSheechiibii Fox you’re right, sorry for not being clear with my words
3 likesThe policemen were too nice if you ask me.
10 likesYou're assuming Markeith didn't have some sort of mental lapse. Your racism is showing. People don't randomly kill their girlfriend and a cop without some sort of mental break. The fact that you didn't even consider that shows your bias. Neither of these situations should have happened - but there's still no excuse for a cop to beat Markeith as senselessly as they did. Their job isn't to exact revenge or be the judge in the situation at all, so yeah the cops fucking sucked and denied him medical attention. Rethink what you're saying
7 likes@alukuhito It's a bad precedent for human rights abuses. What happens when they take this attitude to innocent suspects? That happens constantly. How are you folks so simple minded lol
7 likesSame, I did not feel bad at all when i head he was blinded permanently, he's lucky he's not dead.
1 likeWould American go mad if the cops knelt on his neck ? I think obviously because ppl like to call the race card where ever possible
5 likes@Matt Goddard How is it racist to want and expect justice for two black women and a baby who were murdered by the same man on two seperate occasions? Pulling the race card here just shows your own racism. You appear to care more that the murderer is black and should be given sympathy on that basis, but where's the care for his victims, all of whom were also black? Must be because of their race so I guess your racism is showing.
19 likesNo sympathy for him either, but cops use such unnecessary and maiming violence on innocent people and petty criminals as well.
4 likes@Sam Yeah I absolutely have sympathy for the serviceman who killed a cop during a ptsd flashback. I don't have any sympathy for the idiot who murdered his pregnant girlfriend, then went on the run and murdered a good service woman.
3 likes@Sam lol the cop was dumb right there
0 likes@someasiankid yeah he could've stopped him when he was raising hell outside the truck
2 likes@fer martinez lol look in mirror
0 likesYes, but everyone has a right to keep their dignity
0 likes@Sam that Vet was a different nuts
0 likes@Sam I have sympathy for the veteran because of what he had to go through. He was a victim of the times.
1 likeI'm not trying to downplay what he did though, an innocent man lost his life.
@Sam We have no reason to believe that, it wasn't a defence used at his trial which you'd imagine it would have been if that were the case. You could say that about literally any murderer 'oh maaaybe something bad happened to them to make them go on a killing spree' but the fact is there's no indication this guy had ptsd, while we know the veteran definitely did, and yet the veteran was killed for the lesser crime of killing one person, while the guy who we have no reason to think was not in his right mind when he killed the mother of his kid, his kid, and then another woman in a different place on a different day, got the lesser sentance, was not killed for his horrific crimes. Do you seriously think that is fair justice?
3 likes@Sam Wait are you talking about the ptsd guy? I have sympathy for him as he did not know what was going on when he did it
1 like@Smash Dalde what?
0 likes@Truth Seeker Always she did not say a word about race she merely stated facts and if the vet was black and the wife killer white it does not change facts. Only intellectually light weights or a racist bring up skin color in everything. So which one are you? Or maybe you're both.
3 likes@Truth Seeker Always are you equating a violent criminal who murdered his pregnant girlfriend with all black people? Idk that sounds more racist to me.
3 likesHell no! Love how the police treated him
1 likethe cops kicked him in the face when he surrendered. i agree he deserves jail for life but the cops also deserve to lose their job
4 likes@Sam where did they even say that? lmao
0 likeshes lucky he had any bandages on him
1 like@Sam Lol, of course. What is your logic in here? That we should treat all murderers equally? It's obvious you need context and to know their crimes, so don't bullshit us that if we not feel sorry for a guy who killed in cold blood two women, one of whom was pregnant with his baby and compare it to feel sorry about sick person, who didn't even choose their circumstances.
0 likes@Keith M That warrants murder?
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox everything you're saying is 100% wrong, you are innocent until proven guilty and have the right to a trial represented by a jury of your peers. Police cannot beat the shit out of you and permanently blind you for surrendering
2 likes@Lilith Luna Maybe you replied to the wrong person here, because I never said cops could or should beat people senseless for surrendering. Or anything even close to that, so...?
1 like@Mario Calabrese He didn't even gaf about his own unborn child.
4 likes@Orange Blossom it's erroneous to presume you know exactly what this man thought and felt (or didn't) at any given point in time
0 likesSam W yes
0 likes@Truth Seeker Always someone seems a little racist...
2 likesIs it that hard to understand what the job of the police is? They are supposed to arrest people, not punish people. They are supposed to bring the accused and let our legal system do its job. There was no reason the cops should have kicked this man as he was lying on the ground. It is clear police brutality, or at least police misconduct. And no, it doesn’t matter that this man is a disgusting murderer. That doesn’t give the police the right to kick his face in.
1 like@Mario Calabrese Well he shot and killed his pregnant girlfriend. It's pretty clear he didn't value their lives that much. If it wasn't clear he wouldn't be in jail for life.
1 like@Orange Blossom people with PTSD can be erratic and impulsive. I don't presume to know how this man feels from one moment to the next.
0 likes@Mario Calabrese Why do you bring up ptsd as a defence for this murderer? There is no indication he had ptsd at all, his lawyers would surely have brought that up if he did. You must be confusing him for the other case mentioned in the video, the veteran with ptsd who killed one cop and was sentenced to death for it despite those circunstances. The man you are defending did not have ptsd, he murdered his girlfriend and child before going on to kill a cop without being mentally impaired by a mental break like the veteran. Yet he was allowed to live, while the man with ptsd was sentenced to death. If you care about the trauma of ptsd and it's effects being recognised, you're defending the wrong murderer.
2 likes@Sheechiibii Fox probably undiagnosed. I'm not defending him either fyi.
0 likes@Mario Calabrese Are you of the opinion that nobody commits murder if they don't have ptsd? Or do you think his lawyers wouldn't have thought of that possibility during his murder trial if it existed?
2 likes@Sheechiibii Fox no.
0 likesIf there is no clinical history it seems rather pointless to try and make that claim in court.
@Mario Calabrese So then you are of the opinion that nobody commits murder if they don't have ptsd?
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox "no"
0 likes@Mario Calabrese Then why did you bring up ptsd in the first place?
1 like@Mario Calabrese I have PTSD. Most people with ptsd feel safe around family and don't just shoot up their pregnant wives, if anything they go to them to feel safe. It doesn't change anything.
1 like@Mario Calabrese And why do you think he probably has ptsd? There is no evidence he has ptsd at all and apparently you don't think that people have ptsd simply because they murder - so what reason do you have to say he probably has ptsd?
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox a hunch. We're not in court FYI slick ;)
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox I genuinely don't care enough to explain to you what forms my intuition. Again, we are not in court kiddo :)
0 likes@Mario Calabrese We do not need to be in a court to establish that your imagination is nothing more than your imagination.
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox I may have him confused with someone else then, my mistake.
1 likeHe still absolutely could have PTSD though and that's not an outlandish statement to make. Racial minorities are more inclined to be impoverished, poverty increases your chances of trauma, impoverished minorities are much more likely to be underdiagnosed.
But yes, I seem to have confused this man with another.
Have a good day kiddo 😘
@Mario Calabrese Thank you for admitting your mistake, a lot of people wouldn't bother. I don't dissagree that ptsd often goes undiagnosed, and it is important to keep these possibilities in mind
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox indeed. Everyone makes mistakes eh?
0 likesTake care.
You're from the Amber reid community lol
1 like@calorieboots It stated that his attourneys planned on using insanity as a defence but instead focused on his treatment after his arrest. If they used insanity as a defence, that's not included in the video which it should be if that were the case.
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox True, it says they switched their focus, but I assume they would still have had to argue a defense to the crime itself, unless they argued for a mistrial—but the video doesn’t mention that either so I’m not sure. Seems like looking it up is the only way to know!
0 likesWell that’s not something to be proud of. I have sympathy; he shouldn’t have been treated like that.
0 likes@Truth Seeker Always ok N
0 likesSo why the sympathy for the Vietnam veteran then ? He did the same thing in killing a police officer
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox so you can kill your gf child and a cop if you’re a veteran with ptsd ? Got it GAAAAAAAT IIIIIIT
0 likes@I Was A SaintWhat are you talking about? It is the fact that both crimes were the same but the punishments widely different that I think is wrong. The ptsd is only relevant because it is a better defence than the other guy had, since it is a mental illness, yet he still got the worse punishment. Nobody is saying he shouldn't have been punished, but if he was, even though he had ptsd, why on earth did the other murderer not recieve as bad or worse a punishment? Apparently for no reason to do with him or his crime.
1 like@Sam Brennan was an unwell veteran that was cast aside after serving our country. Marqueef was simply a cold blooded piece of shit sociopath. Neither are excused for their actions, but it's stupid to say that the veteran doesn't deserve sympathy, especially over Marqueef.
2 likesGeorge Floyd capped a pregnant woman at gunpoint and everyone worships him
1 like"I can't breef" well she can't birth.
@TheFire1290 And yet the punishment is given to the families of the victims of a murderer as they are denied justice. And not the police who beat the murderer. Yeah, that seems like a great deterrent rather than a complete deflection /sarcasm.
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox He got life in prison, so justice was served. The death penalty is revenge.
0 likes@TheFire1290 Then you shouldn't have a death penalty and kill veterens with ptsd in revenge and call it justice.
0 likes@Sheechiibii Fox I already agree with that.
0 likes@Truth Seeker Always so you dont support blacks with severe PTSD either and wouldnt understand. They arent the same as the man who killed his girl
0 likes15:55 he pretty much calls him a coward for shooting somebody while wearing body armor… kinda ironic, not that I condone it or anything
0 likesthank you for your service Sgt. Brannon..
0 likesProsecution: “He murdered this cop and his baby-momma and unborn child.”
54 likesDefense: “Yeah but in his defense, these cops had the gall to HATE him for doing so.”
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two wrongs don't make a right, he deserved life in prison for his actions, but still should be giving his rights, not that I'm saying that the cops where completely out of place in feeling like that
4 likes@Wyatt Smith right… but I’m saying they tried to use the treatment of him as a basis to prove he was innocent. I’m not saying they aren’t guilty of possible mistreatment.
1 likeyou know it’s about to get real when youtube warns you twice 😳
1 likeThe full footage of the gun fight is so hard to watch. Thank you for not putting it all in.
0 likesDefinite decrease in quality since the reupload. Need the rest of it to really tie together how video can affect a jury. Although I don't ever expect Youtube in all their extremist policies to allow it.
1 likeThis is one of the best channels I have ever subscribed
1 likeI wish Mike Ehrmantraut was real and that JCS made a video on one of his many police interrogations.
0 likesThe visual of him limping into the woods with a gunshot wound and his dog who was the only thing he loved in the world following behind as he's bleeding made me sad. I know he killed someone but I can't have any anger at him bc of his mental state and PTSD.
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@Piky It's pretty clear what he did was a result of his mental instability, captain pedant. I'm not saying he deserves a standing ovation for gunning down an officer but it's also pretty clear he was pretty much gone mentally.
77 likesThese poor soldiers tormented by PTSD are living in a private hell only they know. I pray for them.
18 likes@Piky sheltered, naive child
16 likes@MeKLiN Maybe by not taking shots at the man who was very clearly trying to provoke him by showing he had a gun with a likely intent to use, and allowed himself to be in the line of fire several times. Wouldn't blame anybody for firing under those conditions.
1 likeI’m sure the family of the victims feel the same…poor take
2 likesamazing video as always :)
0 likesYou can see that poor dog in the car watching it's so sad
1 likeI don’t know how I missed this for a year. Sad.
1 likeHow do you see him dancing in the traffic stop clip and not think he's at least a little insane, that's like something Will Ferrell would do
0 likesWow! This episode just knocked me flat. So powerful. Well done.
36 likesYou brought out very difficult, complicated & multi-layered issues in a thought provoking manner.
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You should subscribe to his pateron! It's only 1$ a month and so worth it.
2 likesGosh
0 likesThis is exactly why the death penalty is insane in a modern society. Aside from it doing nothing to reduce crime, it takes one killer and puts the death of a human on the heads of a dozen more people. No one can predict how they're gonna feel about their actions over time.
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Na death sentence is justified in far more instances than it is actually utilized. Noone cares about deterrents; punishment and retribution is enough of a reason.
0 likesIf we need stronger deterents let's start using torture - plenty deserve it
@Jerome Powell I don't exactly disagree, I just don't want my government in charge of revenge. Let the victims kick his ass if yr gonna offer vengeance as a punishment.
0 likesThe thing is that people don't consider the consequences when they commit crimes. It's usually empathy that stops people, not logic. We know a lot about criminal psychology now, we just haven't applied it to the legal system in America.
this is really sad and tragic. but i wish i could know what happened to the dog
0 likesSo happy loyd got blind from that beating 😂😂😂 an eye for an eye
3 likesI feel so bad for Andy! PTSD is horrible!! He put his life on the line just to never truly escape Vietnam. He's not a murderer, he literally was back in Vietnam when that happened, only someone who has PTSD will understand and I have it so I completely understand what he was going through. Damn, that's so heartbreaking!
0 likesI remember being a little boy in Baghdad when the US forces started to settle in, they were surprisingly kind, funny and helpful. One of them even gave me a few pointers to improve my English.
620 likesHow can anyone justify the way these people are treated once they're back? They are not disposable objects, they are people.
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try telling that to the US government lol
41 likesSadly comments like these, which I appreciate, are always overshadowed and one sided. I'll probably get flak for that, and I'm not excusing the Iraq war or civilian casualties. But most civilians haven't a clue about the nature of war, and only see the bad with armchair analysis.
65 likesComments like yours are important. Plenty of those who deployed and worked day after day with Iraqi's made lifelong friends. I went through an anti-military phase where I lost respect for veterans. Boy, am I glad I came out if that ignorance and realized you can't blame the average service member for the evils of the government.
Tell that to POTUS and Congress.
0 likesJustifying your country being invaded, occupied and bombed to oblivion because a few guys were decent. And for what? Poppy plants and oil. Great logic there.
19 likes@Smash Diggins This is the same logic people gave Nazis for simply following orders.
4 likesThe US government only has the funds for all the wars. Never it’s people. 😊
11 likes@Comrade_Dornish a good portion of the German military were not Nazis, and were in fact just following orders
3 likes@DogLives Matter lmao just look at the guy's profile. No use responding
8 likes@Comrade_Dornish It sounds like @Hsn Firas wasn't making justifications-simply making the observation that the invaders of his(?) country had soldiers that were humans, and not inherently evil. All wars are bankers wars and they often fund both sides. Rothschilds are the true villains here, the rest of us are their pawns. Get everyone hooked on what poppys are used for and fossil fuel; then choke said supply. smh
0 likesThat's a mask. If they were told but our government to blow you away, they would without hesitation. If you spoke your native tongue over here, they would harass you to no end.
2 likes@Comrade_Dornish This. Point blank period this.
0 likesWell, one dude shot his pregnant wife to death and then killed a police officer, and the other dude was speeding soooooo surely you can understand the different situations
0 likesThey signed up to kill for a Dodge charger
0 likesThe government only care about soldiers when they're able bodied and fighting wars the government start. If the soldier gets a physical or mental illness they don't want to know because then that PERSON is a liability who's care takes money away from the other wars they want to start.
0 likesdang dude i really thought they were objects and also disposable, you really showed me the light thanks man
0 likes@Comrade_Dornish similarly the the Soviet Union, many soldiers fighting with the Nazis were forcefully conscripted. I don't believe you could possibly be so ignorant to a well documented issue.
2 likesWhat about the rape and inocent people americans soldiers killed? A few good people don't excuse that
1 likeI'm glad you posted this-though I've heard of other times where soldiers have acted far more barbaric, it's good to see the other side where they weren't.
1 like@OGlettuceWEED that's a funny way o
0 likesTo lie
And even if it was only 1% of the american army that raped dozens of women, killed hundreds of inocents, and marked a generation with the orange agent, it would be enough to mark them as monsters, hell, only a part of the german army even knew about the camps and we still judged them all, i dont see why we should threat them different
1 likeReading this comment gave me chills!!! Just wish I seen more of them!!! Its sickening to see we have all the money it takes to fund a 20 year war, but God forbid they put alil of it away for the men and women that gave their lives and CONTINUE giving in order for them to even be capable of having their "lil wartime parties" to play real life "RISK"!!! Men and women that are fucking kick ass and are some of the most if not feared/lethal people on this planet!!! Asking 0.2 to 0.5% from 100s of billions if not (like the Iraq war) almost 2 trillion dollars, isn't that hard, nor would it break their nvr ending wealth.... Nope throw them back out into society with massive PTSD and make more money off them will in the process hoping they utilize the training they gave them when they do snap. That's what they call a win win, say he/she takes out 12 to 20 people that's just population control to them, they will make money off the news and twist the narrative in there favor and now they can throw him in prison put him/her on death row for 30 years to soak as much taxpayer dollars!!
2 likesThank You for saying that. Means more than you know..
0 likesBad Cattitude Your absolutely correct. If I might add there is a very interesting component to why the Vietnam troops were treat such as they were, I’ll try to be brief but I believe this if thought about should be considered as a valid point that I’ve never heard discussed before so here it is: The anti-war movement begins for the most part in college campuses now while I’m certain they believed the US had no business getting involved but what obviously was an even more important issue for them was that their generation was going to be called in to fight this war, so they protest, obtain as many deferments as possible to avoid the draft but as the war raged on those initial deferments were done away with so many were eligible to have the A-1 draft status dropped on them, its about this time that the protests changed from solely against the war to also now against the troops for being involved in this unjust war and the reason the hatred for the troops had to happen was to justify protesters refusal to go to the war, but there was a HUGE MORAL ISSUE RELATED TO THE IDEA OF THEM NOT PREFORMING THEIR DUTY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY REFUSED TO GO IT DID NOT STOP NOR SLOW THE WAR N FOR EVERY GUY WHO WOULDNT GO SOMEONE ELSE NOW HAD TO TAKE THEIR PLACE EVEN THOUGH THAT PERSON WAS JUST AS UNENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE WAR AS THE PROTESTERS BUT THEY FELT THEY HAD TO HONIOR THEIR DUTY TO OUR NATION. NOW THATS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE PROTESTER BECAUSE THEY LOSE ANY MORAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR ACTIONS IF SOMEBODY ELSE LOSES THEIR LIFE IN WHAT SHOULDVE BEEN THEIR BEST SPOT, SO THE SOLUTION THEN BECAME “WELL ANYONE WHO DOES GO TO VIETNAM IS AN EVIL VILE CRIMINAL AGAINST HUMANITY AND DESERVES WHAT THEY GET”. THIS WAY THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT COULD NOT HAVE ALL THE HYPOCRISY COME DOWN ON THEM AS WELL AS APPEARING EXTREMELY WEAK FOR MAKING SOMEONE ELSE FILL IN CUS THEY REFUSED TO HONOR THEIR OBLIGATION BUT WITH CREATING THE TROOPS AS WILLING BABY KILLERS THEY COULD ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN THE MORAL HIGH GROUND THEY BELIEVED THEY HAD!! Look into the timeline of the war n the anti-war movement and you will see that the spit on the troops concept does not occur at the beginning of the movement at all because the college kids had automatic draft deferments n only over time as these deferments went away n the movement people became draft eligible which made it all most a certainty that they would in fact get drafted n have to serve in Vietnam is the exact time the anti-war movement add anti-troop as well to justify them not going n others who probably felt the same way but still went so they turned the attention to the people who suffer thx to others not full filling their obligations n presto those who served became vermin!! Self interest is and always will be just about the number one motivation behind everything n this situation was no different. Please not I’m not making an opinion one way or another, I was not old enough to serve back then not to mention I really try not to get to judgmental about stuff I did not take part in or witness, of course there are many exceptions to this but with this topic I will not judge but I do always want to understand as best I can. Thx for all your time sorry so long n repetitive!! Hope your all healthy n reasonably happy!!
0 likes@Comrade_Dornish The guy with a hammer and sickle pfp lecturing people about humanitarianism and war, LOL!
1 likeI thought this was going to end with “and then i saw one stand on a landmine”
0 likesYet they still destroyed your country for oil!!
0 likesThe nearly one million civilian Iraqis who died in results of that war were also people. How about you think about them first.
0 likesCaleanWsh tell that to the previous POTUS. Trump is getting our soldiers back home.
0 likesBad Cattitude The thing is, most people fighting in Vietnam were drafted in. They didn’t really have a choice (unless they wanted to go into exile or prison). If anything, those fighting in Vietnam were even less culpable than those fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
0 likesThat being said, I don’t think that soldiers should be blamed for the crimes of our government. They are usually younger, poorer members of society, manipulated by movies and advertising, and the promise of an education. It’s insidious.
We spend a ridiculous amount on war, but we have starving kids in the country, people dying of preventable illnesses, and the soldiers aren’t given enough care when they get back.
The whole system needs to be dismantled. As long as people care more about selfishness and greed than humanity and ethics, our country’s backwards priorities will continue to proliferate.
Karl V Redweld Yeah, and most of those German soldiers weren’t prosecuted. The ones who were prosecuted were the ones who engaged in war crimes.
0 likesSaying you were just following orders is not an excuse if you’re committing a war crime, but if you’re just a regular soldier, you shouldn’t be condemned for the crimes of the government, and the decisions of more powerful military leaders.
@Comrade_Dornish Watch out have an edgy anti statist here whoooOOooOoOOO
0 likes@maroon Forsyth Lol bullshit.
0 likesWell as a kid in Iraq they shot my sister died and blinded my dad so be glad you were well off enough to get out before it got bad and those “kind funny soldiers” showed their real faces. And for what? Absolutely nothing.
0 likesRed Target What’s bullshit? That US soldiers will blow up cities full of civilians if the government asked them to?
0 likesMoral of the story: war, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing
2 likesANDY WANTED TO DIE, BUT HIS PTSD TOOK OVER
1 likei remember watching the unedited video of the m1 carbine firefight... it was brutal.. gave my buddy nightmares.
0 likesBring all the videos back please!!!
1 likeGood to see something from you, Jim! Hope you're staying safe during this time.
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This time?
0 likesso sad i cant share this video. more people need to know what war can do to people.
0 likesI’m a veteran that got out last year. I’ve since been to the VA and got diagnose with PTSD, Major depressive disorder, anxiety, insomnia and suicidal ideation. After I was diagnosed I applied for disability and I’m currently waiting on the results of my disability claim. Knowing how this country treats veterans, I’ll probably get rated at 0%. I literally can’t function normally either socially or occupationally. I’ll let y’all know what the results are. Hopefully they’ll be able to validate everything I’ve gone through, I’ve gone through enough already. I’m tired
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best of luck man. I heard US vets are not treated with near enough care
0 likesBest of luck with your claim. If you get turned down appeal. I’ve heard that a lot of claims are granted on appeal. Good luck and hang in there.
0 likesthis is an interesting one. i hate this man for murdering that cop and his girlfriend who had a baby. but these cops shouldn't be cops or at least have some kind of repercussion for showing such a strong hated towards him during the interrogation and the way he treated him before. i get cops are humans and i understand why they acted that way but we have to be better then this. :(
1 likeLife in prison is worse than death… the longer he lives the greater the penalty.
0 likesThe people who sent these men to war should be sent to prison, war is evil "war is hell" and these men were forced to go there, and when they made it back alive they don't even get treated with respect
0 likesidk why i just laughed really hard at the line "i am glad to be getting out of this place" came weirdly close to me
2 likesKilled by the very nation he swore to protect. This case may as well he the text book definition of Irony.
0 likesWhat a horrible situation for both men. They both served in one way or another for a cause they believed in, and it led to their death. Their fates were oddly similar..
0 likesThis video made me bawl. The comparison you made between cases, how visual informations affects our perception when we don’t know the whole story, is so interesting and sad. War is hell. Thank you so much for making this and sharing it
104 likesWhile you could agree that cops involved in Markieth case should keep their cool and act professional, I see no one condemning the judge. Ffs, how does the misdemeanor on the part of the detectives have any bearing on this guy's deeds? It's not like they got some false confessions, it shouldn't have impact on the verdict.
1 likeI’m not sure how I feel about the police kicking that guy after he’s already subdued, but I will tell you this; he fucking deserved to lose an eye, if not more.
0 likesI really cannot blame the cops but that Markeith guy really deserved every seconds of his pain
0 likesThe state had no right to take this mans life
0 likesI suffered from PTSD and I can say that it ruins your life, it’s absolutely crippling and getting help is hard as nails. Re living every memory is so tough..
221 likesI feel real sorry for this dude, this is all so tragic.
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I'm sorry for what you have been true❤️
3 likesLife changing for sure. Hope you're well.
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0 likesMy ultimate respect to ALL WAR VETS especially VIETNAM WAR. The lack of respect or support shown to them is sad
0 likesIt really hurts me when a black officer who is invested and trying to better her people and community and his struck down by one of her own brothers or sisters. Rest easy sister, protect those from above
1 likeAs a black psych major I have 2 things to say as a black man watching this I have to say if this was a black man they would’ve shot him on sight . Secondly this man didn’t deserve the death penalty he needed help but I do feel jail time would also suffice also this cop could’ve detain him but idk
0 likesThis video makes me sad, here no one won, there were two victims, one a victim of homocide in the line of duty and another a victim of corporate and personal international greed, used up then discarded as a used shoe, left to fend for itself back in society with a big bandage that did little to help him. I am not in favor of what he did, I’m just stating the reality of the consequences of humanity in todays day when greed is the only thing that they care about, at the expense of others
0 likesMy paternal great-grandfather and his brother fought in the Finnish Winter War during WW2. He died just a couple days before the war ended, but my great-uncle survived and he suffered bad PTSD and depression. He apparently hated cooking as the sizzling sound of a frying pan would make him anxious, and he consequently stuck to eating premade foods or food that didn't require cooking (bread, salads etc). That wasn't the only thing that set off his PTSD, that's just an example.
90 likesWhen my dad was 4 years old (so in 1967), there was a family gathering because it was my grandfather's 40th birthday. My great-uncle attended, but he hadn't been outside his house for weeks at that point. He was gloomy and all around just seemed to "not be there". In the middle of the night when everybody had gone to sleep, he went out into the toolshed and shot himself in the head. My grandmother was the one who found him and it was a big tragedy for my family. My grandfather ended up inheriting most of his things, there among many other possessions was his journal from the war. In it, he had mostly written about his days in the war as it happened, but he had kept it and continued writing in it for a couple years after, until the pages ran out some time in 1946. From reading the journal, specifically the entries written after the war ended, it became clear that he could never let go of my great-grandfathers death. His corpse had apparently been recovered the day after the war's end, and seeing it left him with a sense of unrelenting grief and sorrow. He had apparently written that he wished he had died too, so he wouldn't be alone. So after 23 years of trying to recover from the war, he eventually gave up and took his own life.
My dad doesn't remember my great-uncle, but I guess it's for the better that he was too young to remember or understand what happened.
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Dude keep the journal, it's historical
4 likesGreetings from another Finn. These are for sure some deep national and personal scars we share. In my family it has been an absolute taboo, but the package is there as a hidden weight. The emotional toll and it's effect on both individual families and the culture is something we as a nation have a lot to do with to this day. The narrow emotional culture and long misconceptions around mental health topics as well as the protestant way of life haven't exactly made it any easier for our ancestors, and they still play a strong role in keeping these topics out of wider public conversation and inhibit collective healing.
2 likesThank you for sharing. truly a tragedy
0 likesRest in peace andy
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place” 😢
0 likesThe opening montage of bombs and destruction of war juxtaposed with the upbeat doowap '60s music is fantastic.
2 likesthis is your best work, regardless of views.
0 likesThis is truly the best YouTube channel I've ever discovered. Undoubtedly a tragic case in both scenarios. The idea that the reason for Andy B.'s survival of the Vietnam War later led to his death is deeply saddening on its own, not to mention the will and courage it took on Officer Kyle's part to try and save Andrews life in that traffic stop. I wish this story attained more attention as it really shows the extreme cases of PTSD, and the effects it can have on veterans and others.
12 likes6:04 How did the dog get onto that limb? Sounds like something a bird would do.
0 likesa true crime god❤️
0 likesAll of his training and experience came back
5 likesThis video was unlisted, but it’s one of my favorites
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same
3 likesSame, anybody knows why it happened?
3 likes@77777Carlo i can partially recall the part that was cut off from the video it was about a african american man who killed his girlfriend who was pregnant with his child and then shortly after he brutally gunned down a police officer. he was also heavily armed and had body armor when the incident occured. After that he was then arrested shortly after by police. That's about all i remember.
1 like@king avocado I have the original downloaded
1 likeMan it was nice to see a compilation of Vietnam footage without CCR played over it
0 likesThe last one my friends. I know it hurts…
0 likesHeartbreaking!
0 likesWho else wasn’t swayed or phased by the video of the interrogation? If you’re one of the jury and have full knowledge of the 3 people he killed (his girlfriend and his own child), and the officer (whose death was recorded and likely played during the trial), why would you change his sentencing just because of how he was interrogated? Looking at other interrogations, this guy was treated no different aside from having his eye wound ignored. Why show pity and remorse to a man who clearly showed absolutely none to others? The description of the officer getting shot was tragic and clearly traumatic to the woman who witnessed it. The interrogation video meanwhile wasn’t in anyway offensive or tragic in comparison. The jury consisted of idiots. “Spare him death because he was treated in the interrogation room like a criminal.”
0 likesPets are so important for people with PTSD. Pets and friends. One of the major things that has changed about military service since WWII is that veterans no longer hang out with each other. My Grandpa was a WWII veteran, he served as an ambulance driver in Europe and saw crazy action. He never spoke about it, except to his friends who had endured the same war. They met for coffee in the same cafe every week. They hosted events at the local American Legion Hall every year. They marched in parades together, attended funerals together, fired salutes together... Those few who are still with us continue to meet even in the middle of a pandemic (hey, they've lived through worse). But that tradition stops with WWII, maybe Korea. Think of how old the servicemen are who march in your local parades. There are fewer and fewer each year with none to take their place. For whatever reason, veterans post 1950s don't have that brotherly bond my Grandpa took so much comfort in. I wish I knew why.
65 likesAnyway, I'm not saying friendship is a cure for PTSD. But like having a faithful, reliant, smiley doggo by your side, being around those who lived it with you helps heal some wounds. Prayers for all service men and women out there. Thank you for your service. 💕
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Underrated comment.
0 likesFrom what I've seen in the comments, the mindset has shifted from what you're saying to "it's weak to rely on others for help". They can't get help because people will say that it's bullshit and they're only living off of benefits. There's no empathy for people.
1 likeThat's a really deep observation! Given me a lot to think about
0 likesThe Wednesday Wars was a great book to read as a kid man
0 likesThat dude clearly has severe PTSD.
0 likesCan I ask what the Markieth Lloyd and Andrew B cases have to do with each other?
0 likesI actually cried at the end
0 likesHis actions weren’t good, but he was scared. A way you could describe what it feels like to have PTSD (ofc there’s plenty more this is an abstract example) is like when you’re in a haunted house. Your body is on edge and you know something is going to happen, something will jump at you and you’re afraid. Once you leave, you are safe. Now imagine feeling that way all the time. You never leave the haunted house, that haunted house is the world around you. So yes, his actions weren’t right. But every person and thing around you could be a danger, and pop out. He needed help. His life is a prison.
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That's a perfect explanation of PTSD alot of people don't take it serious
4 likes@Flawless Sack Yeah but the flaw in the application is that PTSD doesn't turn you to murderer. cPTSD is a result of heightened situational awareness which leads to greater tension despite the normal risk being removed. PTSD doesn't control your actions, you don't simply become an out of control killer like people try to make vets out to be. You don't hallucinate and see enemy combatants in everyone like the movies. That is just not what PTSD is.
0 likes@Dave Smith they gave me a diagnosis of PTSD but I honestly believe it's c-ptsd
0 likes@Flawless Sack The problem is a lot of these guys making the determination are not veterans themselves so they don't really understand specifically what the disconnect between active service and being back home. There are certain symptoms which need to be addressed, but they are almost always rational results of heightened situational awareness, and not all of it is a bad thing. It's hard to explain that to someone who has spent their entire life locked onto their phone though.
1 like@Dave Smith that couldn't be more true I had one doc diagnosis everyone in the program as have Bpd myself included because it fit their narrative
0 likes@Dave Smith they don't know what it's like to hear a knock at the door and jump
0 likes@Flawless Sack One of the best ways to handle that IMO is to take pride in that. Consider most of the public has zero awareness and never knows when they run into danger until it is too late. As a veteran, your heightened awareness protects you from danger. While you may get a scare, learn to realize your scare is your training kicking in. The hormones that trigger fear are also the same that cause happiness. Wither it is fear or happiness is entirely dependent on how you consciously perceive that feeling. Once you get that mind over matter mindset, you will feel a lot more secure.
1 likeIf the system didn’t fail. Two people would’ve been alive… what a tragic story. War truly is hell.
0 likesI've seen every JCS episode 20 times, aside from this (I'm scared it will be filled with gore). I've waited until now but I'm ready... I think
0 likesyour videos are so well made upload more plssssss
0 likesThis video gave me chills man
0 likesHaving seen the original, unedited dashcam footage before, and seeing what this video was about, I wasn’t sure I wanted to rehear the horrific screams of the cop as he’s being shot to death, so thank you for editing that part out.
169 likesMore importantly, thank you for providing perspective on what might have drove Andy B to commit such a heinous, and apparently spontaneous, act. While of course not justifying his actions, it does provide insight into how somebody could commit such an act, so hopefully we can try to prevent them from happening in the future.
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I actually skipped that part because I did not want to watch it again, and I have watched some bad stuff. It is among the worst I have seen. I'm glad that he edited it out but I still skipped it.. jeez man
11 likesYeah that was one of the toughest parts for me to watch. It really got to me the first time I watched the original dashcam footage
1 likeI haven’t seen this before, but I had to mute if after I heard how afraid the young cop seemed and knowing those were his last moments. I’m so glad he edited it out, but my limit was well before. It’s such a tragedy :(
6 likesI'm so glad I haven't seen that full video and that JCS didn't include it. Even the clip it did show was pretty upsetting hearing the fear in his voice shouting at Andrew. So sad to think about his family :(
3 likesFrom what I have read and heard, they use the full video in police training courses.
1 likeIt’s such a shame but every time there’s a Situation like this, all I can think is, had he been black, I’m 100% sure that officer would still be alive. Smfhhhh
0 likesVideo is more convincing to people when they already know the information because when it comes to emotion, human beings are still a little primitive in that area.
0 likesAw Jim there is only one JCS. I hope you're still working on something. You have so many children on YT.
0 likesSo sad... war never changes but changes people.
2 likesI still feel so much more Sympathy for the Soldier than the random dude who killed his pregnant girlfriend
0 likesHow is that considered 1st degree murder when it happened spontaneously?
0 likesrelease video s more often, plenty of crime out there I'm sure
0 likesThe way this country treats our veterans is nothing short of criminal. It certainly has improved from the Vietnam era but we still have lots to go.
0 likesDeath is easier than living. Especially if you’re in prison with nothing but your thoughts.
0 likesLove this channel
0 likesLove the opening scene (not because it’s like you know bombs and death because I don’t)
0 likesImagine having a fire fight with a Vietnam War vet
0 likesAs a vet, this hits home, on many levels. May God have mercy on their souls.
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Where did you fight? Thank you for your service! ✌🏼
1 likeKathi Gulf war.
0 likesThank you for your service and i hope you are mentally and physically doing well sir☺
0 likes“cuz you a bitch in body armor.” 16:02 spittin str8 facts to that man 😭🤣
2 likesWow. The investigators for the cop killer said "Fuck it. Idc if I get demoted, we're not giving him medical attention and we're gonna talk all the shit!" No fucks to give. It was worth it.
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It may not have been. It all depends on his time in prison, if it's terrible then it was worth it. If he finds peace, then he'd have been better off dead
0 likesDamn this one got under my skin.
0 likesI believe Andy badly wanted to die and kill himself but can't because he don't want his parents to suffer the same pain of losing a son again. He just lived and was literally waiting when he'll die. A part of him died when he returned from Vietnam and every other fight. When his siblings die, a huge part of him died too. All the trauma that he has to face every single day is slowly killing him already. So he doesn't see the point of killing himself because he's already dead inside.
0 likesWhen you can save a country and a lot of people but can't save yourself afterwards. 💔
The eyewitness's articulate recounting gave me chills. I thoroughly enjoy this channel.
50 likesHonestly 16:54. I mean, he did kill a pregnant woman who loved him and killed a police officer. He kinda deserved to be blinded
0 likeswhen youtube asks twice if you actually wanna watch, you know it’s abt to get real
1 likeWhen the police arrested Markeith Loyd. They used Debra Claytons handcuffs on him to honor her.
0 likesThe last 60 second or so made me like this guy.
0 likesLast words I'm happy to be getting out of this place. fkn love it.
We've spent trillions of dollars on optimizing warfare, yet we've completely forgotten about the men and women that actually defended our countries. Too bad there is no profit in helping vets
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Spent 8 yrs in service. It's not a bug,it's a feature..
16 likesThe MIC is a plague to this earth and needs to be destroyed.
14 likesWhy did you spend that money in the first place? The USA hasn't won any of the wars that it got involved with or started under false pretexts. I honestly don't understand this need that Americans have to protect themselves. who are you protecting yourselves from? can you not see that you are causing pain and suffering not only in the war zones, but also in the US? Millions of people dead...millions displaced...millions in pain... and for what? What did you actually achieve? apart from the Vietnam war when people were dragged in, your soldiers knew what they were signing up for! They are not victims! Victims are those civilians killed by them while fighting for a government that only cares about putting money in donors' pockets! stop going to war! use that money for education, social care, housing, etc.
52 likesIf taxpayers are not aware that the responsibility lies with them, then this will continue.
There is no profit in mental health, only destroying it.
8 likes@O.G. Not everyone who signed up for the military did so with the expectation of going to war.
7 likes@O.G. Also, if there weren't enough volunteers in the US military then they would probably force people to join by doing a draft.
11 likesBTW, I agree with much of what you said. It would be nice if we could put all the money dumped into the military complex to better use.
I always here people talking about people fighting to defend our freedom but I struggle to see how the Iraq war had anything to do with defending our freedom. I also feel as though "freedom" is an illusion. I can't even buy ecigs or menthol cigarettes in my state ffs.
the army isn’t defending your country by invading others for oil or political power
31 likes@the mischief Every war we've fought in the last 100 years has been for Israel. Get out of here with your two decade old cold ass takes. "war for oil", please.
2 likesTrump did a pretty good job revamping the VA website. Made it way easier to navigate. And I think that's a huge deal.
4 likesThis story sounds like bullshit. You know there’s no karma to farm on YouTube, right?
1 like@Mr305Maxxx you said theres many natural cures for cancer? Name them. Sourced.
4 likesIt’s how statecraft and empire work: those on top get rich while the pawns get sacrificed. I wish we didn’t live in this hell world.
1 likeonly they weren't defending anything, just invading foreign countries solely for the elite's economical benefit, same old story
6 likesNope but there is in war. Sickening
0 likesInvading Vietnam and killing local civilians was not any kind of 'defense', but overall the people still need care, yes.
4 likesHaha what do you expect? Like America is a decent country. Health insurance, more homeless people then europe had in the last 25 years, racism, gun laws, Trump as president, etc. Why do Americans think they have a decent country?
2 likeswhen did the US soldiers protect your country exactly the last 70 years?
4 likesYou mean men and women who attack other countries on our behalf? US had never been attacked by outside forces in the open warfare to be defended.
1 like@O.G.
2 likesWhat millions of lives are you talking about? Can you show me where and when US military killed people in millions?
@Gniewomir Chrząszcz I suggest you read some history books.
1 like@O.G. lol, history degree here so don't bullshit me with that propaganda.
3 likesBurden of proof is on your side so either show any info/documents about alleged millions killed by the US military or just stop that bs.
Even Drone operators get PTSD, albeit for different reasons
0 likes@Holland4evahh Trump being our president isn’t an insult. You guys have some pretty undesirable leaders yourself so you can’t talk.
1 likeProtect our countries lol. War is about power and commodities, nothing to do with protection
1 like@Don Dotta In South Korea we love America, they helped us from the POS invasion of the North and China. I like how certain types of Americans leave us out though....like it doesn't fit their agenda or something. I know some people from Estonia really love the US as well and speaking of Vietnam they hate China now and I've had a lot of conversations about how they wished the US had done for them what happened for South Korea given the state of Vietnam over the last 50+ years and how we have flourished. People see this so when we see some off Americans acting like this isn't a good thing it makes you very off-putting just saying.
0 likesI noticed too that East Germany still hasn't caught up with West Germany and I study in different countries people noticed the difference between how US runs and how other big powers run things and everyone would rather have US as ally.
Cool it with the antisemitism
0 likes@O.G. It's weird to see all this about the US, but nobody ever says this shit about Brittannia, which did all the exact same stuff, to a greater degree (they actually went out and conquered their neighbors) and for far, far longer. See also the USSR, China, Italy, Spain, France, Mongolia, the Danes.... Almost like maintaining a large military and fighting with people who aren't your people is completely normal and has been done by basically every culture ever throughout history.
0 likesIs it because after doing it for several hundred years they finally stopped when several of their colonies kicked their ass in a relatively short period? If so, recognize that the US is still too young to have reached that point, and will likely take longer on account of having no colonies to do all that nasty rebellion crap.
@Patrick Harrington oh, trust me, we do criticise other empires for their warmongering (this criticism is especially prominent in those empires' former colonies). The US is usually centre-stage these days because it's doing all the classic empire bullshit right now, and on a large scale. Plus it acts all high and mighty about it.
0 likesIt's a shame the age restriction does not allow the video to be pushed by youtube, it captured me from beginning to end
0 likesPretty gross at @13:30 when the helicopter intentionally turns the camera away so his colleagues can hand out extrajudicial punishment like that.
0 likesThis is my favorite channel. ✌️🇺🇸
0 likesLoyd should never have been brought in breathing, the fact that this mass murderer still lives says everything you need to know about today's day and age. So much like the namesake of this video, I can't really wait to get the fuck outta this place either.
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place"
32 likesWhat a perfect quote to describe the hellish reality of a man who had already died long before "justice" was served.
I watched all the videos on this channel! Now what should I do with my life?!
0 likesThey make the ultimate sacrifice
0 likesI had to confirm like 5 times to watch this one oddly enough
thank you for posting this video😭😭
1 likeOk am I the only one who finds it funny that during the investigation he was like “your mom”😂😂😂
0 likesWait how have I not seen this one?! I’ve watched every other video more then once. Idk how I missed this one! Yayyy I have a new one to watch at least!!! Fuck yea
0 likesThe Markeith Loyd story enraged me even more. Fools like that are lucky cruel and unusual punishment isn’t permitted. Glad nobody took a fall for blinding that bum.
33 likesThis is the best video on youtube ever.
1 likeThis one hit hard I guess it was his last words that did
0 likesI worked at the Veteran's Service office for several years (i'm also a vet, if that matters). Vietnam vets got the absolute shortest end of the stick. I couldn't believe how they were treated. It disgusted me.
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Yea Us post 911 vets are treated way better. Not the best, but not so much as neglected
0 likesNah I aint down with treating anyone like that and believe me I have the togh on crime stance but I'm also the innocent until proven guilty and according to the Constitution that man is innocent till proven guilty, so in a sense they are treating an innocent person like that.
0 likesHow wouldn't you be biased against someone killing someone you know these defense lawyers act like the police supposed to be angels and robots.
0 likesThis really got me
0 likesGreat video guys
God that’s a depressing story
0 likesOne of my Father’s friends’s father was a Taiwanese immigrant who served in Vietnam. Last summer he wanted to talk about his experiences just to let it off of his shoulders but the very mention of the word brought him to tears. From what my Father told me, he never even spoke a word, he just cried
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Poor guy. War is evil and the trauma is heart breaking.
10 likesIs your Father's friend's also serve during Chinese Civil War? Or a Chinese born in Taiwan?
0 likes“They got him a dog… and he loved that baby”
0 likesThe intro didn’t have no business being that fire 🔥
0 likesHe didn't deserve help from the very officers that he had killed one of
0 likesokay everyone talking about poor Andrew but the dash cam footage made me so emotional about the cop's death?
0 likesPTSD sucks, man. I keep seeing people calling BS on stories about a sudden noise causing a breakdown... that's really how it is. Mine was the result of assault, so being touched by men I didn't know would set me off, even if it was just a handshake.
526 likesI was hosting a small party and a drunk male acquaintance hugged me from behind and thanked me for being a great host. He was a small gay Filipino guy, not even a threat whatsoever.
You know what I did? Ran upstairs sobbing and hid in my room. I was inconsolable and immediately I was mentally at the scene of the assault.
It's horrible. Suddenly your mind just snaps and you're a wild animal. Everything that makes you, well, you, is gone.
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Poor Baby, you didn´t deserve this :(. I hope you got the help you needed and have family and friends that keep you save. I wish you all the best :).
23 likesRunning to my room hiding like a wild animal sounds rough
0 likesDoes being small, gay, and Filipino somehow make him less threatening? What does being Filipino have to do with his threat level anyway...try not to make such broad (and ignorant) assumptions based solely on physical appearance and race. Sorry you got assaulted, btw.
9 likesYou're commenting on the wrong video this is about combat veterans show some fucking respect
0 likes@Billy Bill how is this disrespectful? op is sharing their story about ptsd, which is a central part of this story?
42 likesRose - please ignore the ignorance of some of these comments. They clearly lack empathy. I’m so sorry you went through that.
18 likesAnd its almost cliche to say that the military is there to protect yalls freedom, cuz I know you know this
1 likeDamn all my others comments got deleted lol
0 likes@Billy Bill tf is wrong with you? She was talking about her experience with PTSD. If anyone is being disrespectful it would have to be you
12 likesCharles E I'm 19
0 likesCharles E I'm 19
0 likesYabadabonboo "Just being shot" what a pefect way to sum up the mental and physical strain of doing a combat deployment for 9 months. Getting shot, seeing other soldiers get shot, shooting back and stopping the threat then doing the first aid and calling medevacs yada yada
0 likesCharles E Bish you're probably older than me, but what you doing with your life rn? Online school in the your parents crib? Or did you just work at a subway thats shut down
0 likesPTSD sucks. Nobody understands unless they experience it. Sound, smells, actually any of the five senses trigger it.
5 likesFind someone to talk to. Someone that listens. Unbiased person that you can talk to.
PTSD sucks. Nobody understands unless they experience it. Sound, smells, actually any of the five senses trigger it.
1 likeFind someone to talk to. Someone that listens. Unbiased person that you can talk to.
@Billy Bill why do you think you need to pit two different traumas against each other & make a contest out of it?
4 likesThe message I got from this video was not "let's only praise war veterans even when they kill ppl" but more like "let's not minimize the trauma someone goes through because if we do, chances are they won't get help and spiral down a bad path."
Which you are missing that point, and minimizing the op's trauma bc it wasn't caused from Vietnam or guns.
No loud noises, no yelling, no strangers. Bad scary monsters come out at night and I don't like hugs. I can't even let my mom hug me.
0 likesI get pissed when ppl use ptsd as the latest boutique diagnoses because it's trendy.
0 likesIt used to be bipolar. I predicted ten years ago that ptsd would be fashionable in the world of sympathy attention
I apologize for any old comments that are hurtful
0 likeswell i hope by now you know that your comment was dumb
Lillith666 The fact that he’s would show that he didn’t do the gesture in a sexual way rather a friendly way.
1 likeget a grip bruh
0 likesThe fight or flight mode comes out and you cannot control your actions. It’s a different part taking over. And it’s like your brain going through the event again and again.
1 likeFor me, when someone hugs me I basically freeze and feel like I can't breathe. When the hug is over I can't talk for a while
0 likesDamn i literally watched every single video in JCS's channel and this is the last one.
1 likePoor girl looked so sweet, and at any rate did not deserve to suffer from somebody else's mental illness
0 likesU kidding me the cops beat the ever loving crap out this guy....what's the mystery? Would u have done something different? Really...technically that would make u a sociopath a person without feelings...
0 likesHow come you don't use alternative video sharing sites like Odysee? (It lets you sync your YouTube channel with little effort)
1 likeJust sucks to see how YouTube treats its creators and how creators continue to take the abuse. No one should be forced to self censor in order to keep their content up to the public.
This applies so heavily to what’s going on. Thank you Jim, you hit the nail on the head.
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How so?
0 likes@Ron B
10 likesWatching George Floyd slowly die on camera at the hands of a cop.
@tropezando we're in a world where we can't identify a "good" or "bad" guy by uniform anymore. Andy was technically a man of uniform, trained to murder. He did his job so well, it soon distorted his sense of reality and what is considered justice. This video is a crime where cops kill or are killed, and displays how the murder is completely senseless.
2 likesBlue Moon No, he did not. An independent autopsy came out and his death was completely caused by strangulation.
17 likesNo the head on the nail
0 likesBlue Moon Fine dude. Defend a murderer. You can do whatever you’d like. I choose to believe that, after having a knee pressed against his neck for eight minutes straight, he wasn’t able to get enough air and suffocated. I don’t think I need much more proof than the video showing him die. The original autopsy was done by the same man who said Epstein committed suicide, so I’m a little inclined to believe the independent autopsy. You can choose to lick a cops boots and I can choose to use basic logic. I myself am not interested in trying to make the crimes of a murderer less sickening. I am NOT interested in arguing about this.
2 likes@Myrrhee the independent medical examiner for Floyd is the same one that did Epsteins autopsy and said he killed himself..... do with that info, what you will. Many, many, many people don't believe Epstein killed himself with a bed sheet.
0 likesGeorge Floyd also tested positive for covid in April and had a severe heart condition. Being high on fentonyl and meth , having possible lung damage from covid, stuggling with officers, along with a knee on the neck all contribute to his death. Tony Timpa was a similar case, where the officers laugh,on camera, at the man they're strangling.
We got embarrassed in Vietnam and embarrassed in Afghanistan, while tens of thousands of Americans and millions of innocent civilians died. We must all work to ensure the lessons learned from this are heeded..
1 likeAmazing content
0 likesI am glad to be getting out of this place… chills
0 likesLife in prison is worth than the death penalty
1 likeSo sad. What dark times.
0 likesI dont know what that police officer was thinking. Still extremely unfortunate but he should have been dropped as soon as he saw him grab the weapon
0 likeswtf his execution happened in 2015, it would be expected that they would have understand more about PTSD in 2015 and he was a veteran and old, they should have spared his life
1 like"Only the dead have seen the end of war." --George Santayana
0 likesafter this finished i had tears in my eyes and goose bumps, i sat in silence for a few minutes getting my head around what id seen and felt.
42 likesI like how that this video in how it has been made is its self a great example of the power of video. Love this channel
"I am proud to have been able to walk point for my comrades."
0 likesFuck me man.. War is hell.
YouTube asked me to confirm TWICE if I wanted to watch it. That's how good this was! And of course, sad.
0 likesThat intro sequence is some real nightmare fuel
0 likesThat last line hits hard
0 likesKnowing what I know about mental illness, its so obvious Andy needed so much more help than he was offered. The mental health system is broken nearly to a point beyond saving, especially for trauma patients. I've seen my mom get the short end of the mental health treatment stick more times than I can count. Andy's final words broke my heart, I haven't cried in a while but this got me.
24 likesThis is the first video I’ve been asked twice if I really wanna watch it.
0 likesSo freaking sad man
0 likes1960s Vietnam footage, still shock and awe.
0 likesI know that Vietnam war compilation with that song for the intro was mean to show how ignorance we are about Vietnam war but damn those compilation are beautiful. Your editor probably have fun editing it.
0 likesThis is the most sophisticated and well-produced series on YouTube. It’s actually the best crime series since American Justice with Bill Kurtis.
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Wow....Thought the same thing. I absolutely loved American Justice back in the 90's!!!...This is my new American Justice.
3 likesAnd @Horrorstories
0 likesThank you for pointing out something I can look forward to, once I find it.
0 likesThose few times lately when your with the cops lol.
0 likesman, that intro... mind blowing
0 likesBoth were victims.. tragic!
0 likesThe intro was phenomenal
0 likesMy dad passed when I was 12. He was the nicest, happy go lucky guy u could ever hope to meet. But the way his face would change any time me or my brothers would ask him about Vietnam even at such a young I knew he must’ve seen some truly horrific things over there as a paratrooper. I miss u dad. U will always be my hero.
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Jesus christ a paratrooper. I pray for him
5 likesomg, that's so nice.
1 like@bbgamegod PNW yea i found his jump suit when I was like 14 and I wore that thing til the patches were coming off. My mom had to take it away and lock it up just to preserve it.
5 likes@Youtube Comment my grandpa was a medic in the Korean War, now he wasn't in Korea but anyone that had had get major surgery that couldn't get combat med. So my pops spent his time drinking, fighting former nazis, and patching up fallen brothers. It's so crazy to me how different every soilders experience was
1 likeR.I.P to your dad, he was a hero <3
0 likesrespect bro rip
0 likesNot enough shitty musical stings for Netflix lmao
0 likesRespect. RIP
0 likesA true hero!
0 likesYou know shits gonna be good when a JCS video makes youtube give you two different warnings
0 likeswhy was this dude allowed to have a firearm? also what is the sense of the death penalty in that case, I mean I would argue for a parole...
0 likesBoth them detectives got bullied in school never won a fight in their life
0 likes"you deserve the respect of a rabid dog on the street"
0 likesI missed this video when it came out. Both the veteran almost begging to be shot and the brave police officer who refused to injure the veteran unless necessary - its heartbreaking. Both were such good people, made enemies by the cruelty of man and the harsh nature of war.
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He could've started by not screaming at him from the moment he saw him until the bitter end
0 likes@Little Bear Were you involved in this? :o
0 likesCool it with the antisemitism
0 likesAsked 6!! Times to Confirm!
0 likesOnly makes me want to watch even More!!!
All I'm saying is that if they didn't do the curb kick maybe the questioning part of the video would of gone better
0 likesA good soul gone bad because of the element of humanity itself
0 likesSo a guy who dances in front of a cop and then taunts him with a rifle before killing him isn’t crazy enough for a phsyc-ward??
1 likeDamn, I was not expecting that ending to hit me in the feels as hard as it did. Truly a tragic event for both of those men and their families.
38 likesbringing drama to a veteran is like having knives near an angry ex
0 likesahahahahahahahahaha
I understand the system failed Andy B and he needed help regarding PTSD, but damn he killed a 22 yr old kid in cold blood. Literally says “die fucker” as he stands over the officer that’s screaming in pain and shoots him in the head. Just thought I’d see more people sympathizing with the officer. And I’m not even a fan of cops!
0 likesWith all the things about American Veteran PTSD, have anyone ever watch/ask/wondered what the Vietnam PTSD are like?
0 likesThis could fill a feature length doc easily. How is it only on 1.8mil?
0 likesAs a veteran, we lost 48 in 2005. Years later after my discharge, and long and yet unfinished path to recovery, I was expelled and banned from a university for threatening another student during a debate in a Criminal Justice course on lethal force. The topic was in relation to a veteran who forced a suicide by police. Unbeknownst to me, the student I was debating with was distantly related to this veteran. This student also was unaware that I was not only a veteran with combat experience, but a veteran who's war experience was a year long sustained slog of daily multiple incoming barrages of mortar fire, so many small arms fire exchanges I lost count, and seeing very young Marines, my friends or as I call them to this day, my brothers, who as a Corpsman remained with them in their final moments, as the Marines around be focused on the opposing force, I stopped firing, once a casualty was sustained, and tried to save their life, or if the dice were not in the Marine's or my favor, work on them, and other casualties, until they went to whatever happens to our consciousness after our death.
28 likesI firmly believe, if an officer is confronted by s veteran, or anyone who obviously is a threat to the officer's life, or anyone's life, that the officer should give that veteran what they psychologically are seeking, a violent warrior's death. The officer should not be asked to risk their life to save someone who's willing to threaten or actually end another's life to obtain their warrior's death.
The student's argument was that police should shoot to wound or disable a veteran in a similar scenario to disregard the officer's safety as that's what they signed up for.
A pretty passionate debate ensued, that evolved into an heated argument and I did, now in hindsight regrettably, indicate a threat towards that individual of physical violence by the end of incident.
That said I still stand by my stance though. If a veteran, like myself and the veteran shown in this video, have PTSD so severely that the "rock bottom" they hit is seeking suicide by police, the police should not hesitate to provide that warrior's death they're seeking. I'm now 100% disabled as per the VA, and I had to hit rock bottom before I sought help. Thankfully my rock bottom was planning and nearly executing my own suicide. I watched to many good men die, pulled the trigger to kill too many times, to force someone else into a position to end mine is unjustly burdening someone else with the same demons I struggle with now. I got the help I needed, but I only accepted help after my moment at rock bottom. According to the stories of other veterans of recent wars, and the Vietnam War, that's usually what it takes before we'll seek help. A vet center therapist saved my life, because I raised my end up to her from my own personal hell, and asked for help. I am now a stay at home dad of three, a coach, and Scout leader. No amount of medals on a "war heroes" chest should justify that individual endangering the life of someone else. They need help, they can be helped, but if they choose a path that they selfishly force a police officer to end theirs by threat of death to that officer, and if the Vet is successful in that goal, pass on the burden of combat, and taking a life to someone else, then I would say the officer should not hesitate, grant their final request if they feel threatened.
The officer shown didn't have to die. Shouldn't have been put into that position by the veteran, that was selfish on the Veteran's part, but the officer lost their life trying to save a Veteran that was sadly mentally KIA in Vietnam. The social culture/stigma of an individual seeking mental health being a weakness sure doesn't help. Very complex societal issue, but if an officer of the law's life is truly threatened, they should not hesitate.
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Thank you for your service 😘😘😘
1 likeIt is appreciated daily by millions....even if they don't realize it! 😉
God bless ur soul. Jesus Christ u almost made me tear up!
0 likesThanks for your service i have huge respect for you for writing this
2 likesVery well put. Good on you for overcoming your demons brother. Much love and thank you for your service.
2 likesWhy did u threaten the other dude smh
0 likesHeavy.... Vietnam really messed with the USA on so many different levels.
1 likeI killed multiple people but im a victim!
2 likesThey beat me up!!
This video has been castrated to half of its original YT length. Tragic.
1 likeThis is the greatest intro to any YouTube video ever
0 likesFuck man, that ending gave me chills. We live in a fucked up world. This analysis is true art.
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nvm m bad
0 likesUgh, the victim mentality is limitless
1 likeWar never ends. And those who haven’t breathed the air of hell will never know it’s dark embrace.
0 likesI had to confirm 4 times that i wanted to watch this, omg
0 likesmy family name is on the wall. this ones rough. im wondering how vets could still protect America, as in, Chicago for example... or wherever the top of the murder rate may be. Cartels along the southern border. places like that. maybe give all vets a home on the borders. yes, even canada, they've got chinese troops.
0 likesI really feel so bad for the army men that have served a country that doesn’t give 1 crap abt them or their mental state of mind the years following their service. There should be so much more mental help/check ups throughout their years and before they exit into society. America has let its citizens down in some of the worst ways possible over these centuries. They throw all the accountability on the war veteran and take non for themselves. Must be nice.
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@TheFriendlyRadicalExtremist that isn't exclusive to America champ
6 likesSo back then the mental health systems in the military were god awful. Nowadays mental health checkups are encouraged but not mandatory unless there is an incident. Other than that, mental healthcare is optional for service members. Unfortunately, most don’t seek help. Even worse, some do but receive no help. Another reason why some do not seek help is the fear that a negative mental health diagnosis will lead to them being discharged or treated differently because of some limitations that may be in the work place due to mental health treatment.
3 likesI was in the USAF and I encountered all of these situations. But I have also encountered people who did indeed receive real help from mental health services. It depends on the patient and the provider.
Create the problem and cry for solution. I don't feel bad when you taste your own medicine.
0 likes@Baby Face probably talking from their personal experience as an American
0 likes@Baby Face I'm talking America. If you want to talk other countries, that's another thing. Right now we talking america Champ
0 likes“i need medical attention” silence, child killer.
1 likeGod bless you kazume!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesThat pregnant girl was "joking" on camera but that was her testimony, she knew he was going to kill her... Whatever happened before that video, she knew and named her killer 😓
0 likesI just read about Markeith Loyd's trial starting this week and now I see this video. Weird
0 likesMy Grandfather was a veteran of the Vietnam War as were his twin brothers, my great uncles did not make it home alive. The horrors they and Andy B have seen will never truly be understood by those who were not there.
73 likesKyle Dinkheller did not deserve to lose his life and much respect for how long he withheld his shots but the government could have done better by Andy B and many other veterans, it's sad to see it end this way for both parties involved. I hope they found peace because this world is terrible.
"I'm glad to be getting out of this place."
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Amen.
0 likesYea man, really upsetting how veterans were and sometimes still are treated like shit and fucked over.
1 likeThink I got PTSD myself after watching this.
0 likesTo be fair... If you watch the whole interrogation, they did try before they got to that point.... And of course they're biased!
0 likesNam was brutal and so was afgan but many veterans didn't go down this road
That was powerful.
0 likes15:13 - 15:16 😂😂😂 “nobody in this room beat your ass ” 😭
0 likesI’m on a literal binge. Those videos are 100% better then what can be seen on tv about true crimes and that’s a fact.
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Yes
1 like15:14 sorry, but the suspect is right. the reproach from the officer is stupid considering the suspects heavy injuries.
0 likesthis your greatest work Mr. JCS please return to us
0 likesThis video needs sooo many more views
0 likesHonestly I don't even understand why life in prison is not considered the highest punishment. Death is the easy way out compared to spending all the decades of your remaining life locked inside a box.
0 likesThe way he ducks and weaves is really discrepant from what you see in movies where it's either the cold precision of a swat/spec ops team, or a hunkered down soldier behind cover. It definitely comes across as a man who learned how to be a one man army battling through a jungle.
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Countless firefights and live combat probably wired those movements and reactions into his entire being, Vietnam vets probably think about what they did every single day still. You can never forget certain things and sometimes they leave a permanent stain on your soul, most were 19-20 years old.
11 likesCryptoAddictedSnarf I agree 19-20 is the best time in most peoples life and it was robbed of them
2 likes@Destiny De La Rosa You can't say that
0 likes@ash hydra you can, it's for people the start of adulthood, they're usually experiencing all the new perks of being of age. You also discover much more about yourself at these ages as you start to explore where you want to go in life etc.
2 likesThis isn't the case for everybody, but it's fair to say for most people they're partying, getting drunk, sleeping around and generally having a good time.
I couldn't imagine how would've changed me if I was recruited at 18 like these Vietnam vets. I had some testing times in my life at this age and it definitely changed me, so to imagine the type of trauma a person in war, let alone a person who has just come of age. It's unfathomable.
I don't really like cops but. Rest her soul. That female cop. She seemed like she really cared. Rip
0 likesDo these cops not realize they're being recorded? I get they're pissed off but it's crazy they're so brash on saying these things the way they did on camera...
0 likesI think most of the commenters forgot the message shown in this video that is, "the impact of audio visuals on the decision making capabilities even of the jury on punishment decisions".
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Yeah, I hope more people's got the point of this video yet it probably because emotion already overwhelmed people's.
1 likeSad life for this poor man 😪. You know if he was black he would been shot as soon as he started doubling back to car.
1 likeWow the video of the woman jokingly predicting her own fate. What a trip
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The way her eyes were I feel like she was signaling for help but couldn't directly say that knowing him? That's the vibes I got with the eyes she was making towards him. I rewatched that part multiple times.
127 likesCan't help but think that may have even been a cry for help actually
73 likes@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew yeah I agree, at first it seemed like a joke but the more she talked, the more serious she looked. Unfortunately we won't ever really know for sure.
62 likesReminded me of 2Pac but he wasn’t joking when he predicted his death.
3 likesYea she was very adamant about her being wit him was a mistake..she never said she was joking either
9 likesThis was just a horrible accident I dont feel he is responsible. My PTSD is different but still took counseling both in patient and out patient. I still tell myself things like this is just my brain not me.
1 likeOne little, but very significant word that describes this all... Tragic
0 likesWith no disrespect to Kyle Dinkheller, if he never started yelling he wouldn't have gotten shot.
1 likeThank goodness for cameras 🎥 and technology
0 likesEvery, single, time. I'm so thoroughly impressed by the quality of stuff on this channel. Just that intro alone wouldn't seem out of place in a big budget Hollywood film. Keep up the excellent work, and I can only say I wish I could give you some sort of major award.
13 likesDevastating. Simply devastating.
0 likes"They beat me up"
3 likesYes, and?
Use of force wasn't just justified, he got off easy if you ask me
0 likesGreat piece 👏🏾
0 likesThis is one of the best channels on YouTube without a doubt.
63 likesAm I missing something? Why are most of the comments I see saying howsorry they are for Andy B? Why aren’t people more sad for the innocent cop?
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place." :(
0 likesI'm confused about the connection between the two stories
1 likeThis is really tragic, but why does a man with a post-traumatic disorder have access to a gun? could it be that the dog is buried there?
1 likeThe Female Officer was Such a G, Such an Inspiration. so sad RIP sweet Soul.
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G's don't fuck with 12. ACAB
12 likes@Donald Trump MAGA ACAB? Are you being ironic? Not something President Trump would say
56 likesBy G, what do you mean? Gangster? That's twisted as fuck.
3 likesNah, fuck that. Licensed to kill, licensed to die
3 likes@Otoshi God what do you mean? His supporters just killed a cop and put a few others in the hospital, seems pretty anti cop to me
8 likes@letskeepearthgreen woooah tf is u on about bruh
9 likes@TheUnderlost The right thing is not to confront this type of violent murderer alone.
1 like@George R.Tard. Martin 4 dead trump supporters to 1 dead cop
0 likes@George R.Tard. Martin how many died while your side was burning down cities in “peaceful protests” all summer for “muh racism?”
2 likes@George R.Tard. Martin Well 3 were medical emergency and one Air Force veteran was shot by a cop. It’s interesting I can induce certain emotions by limiting how much info I give you
0 likes@Donald Trump MAGA bruhh
0 likes@Sanesanchezs god I think
0 likes@George R.Tard. Martin Lmao that narrative died quick
0 likesMurderer: "They BEAT ME UP!"
25 likesEveryone in the crowd: "Good!"
I hate these type of things it shows you how biased our legal system is, they didn’t take into account a Vietnam veterans mental instability, Someone who fought for our freedom, and he was given the death penalty. Where as some evil man who killed his pregnant girlfriend then killed a police officer in cold blood, someone who was sane, and escaped capital punishment. It’s very sad
0 likesI was warned 6 times that the video was inappropriate. It must be a good one 😎
0 likesIf someone's going 98 ona highway alone, they got somewhere to be
0 likesabsolutely insane. he’s considered 100% disabled, been to war, has severe PTSD, and reacted how he’s used to react to someone else with a weapon. HOW did he get the death sentence.....
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Because he murdered one of his betters. The idea that "all men are created equal" is a noble mindset and something to continually aspire to, but let's face it, it's never been consistently applied. For the most part: Rich/Influential > Police > Veterans > Plebs.
45 likesI know it's cruel but he wanted death and I'm happy they gave him what he wanted. Imagine him living life in a cage when he fought a war for his country and lost so many brothers along the way. I'm happy he is finally at ease.
32 likesYou should watch the video where he kill the police and your mind will change
4 likes@WanderingYankee that pig should have just let him be. All that for a traffic ticket. The guy had flashbacks and the cop refused to back off
3 likes@A Dark Gothic Forest what? He pulled him over for going over 90, already putting peoples lives in danger, wasn't aggressive until this guy charged him, didn't shoot when he 100% could have for damm near 20 seconds, then got savagely murdered for trying to protect the lives of innocent people. Any punishment other than death would not be just.
31 likes@A Dark Gothic Forest A cop actually doing his job and protecting people gets murdered. "Must be a pig"9
41 likesHow was he even able to get a rifle?
3 likesThe cop didn’t show any aggression towards him besides a routine traffic stop. Had the cop pulled a gun on him at the beginning of the encounter that would make sense but he started the aggression himself.
3 likesThere are many thousands with PTSD who don’t ruin other people’s lives, let alone murder in cold blood. He deserves everything he got.
@Jim Well this was in the 1990s so there probably wouldn't be gun regulations on mentally disabled people. But this shit is the reason why we really do need more focus on mental health rather than just banning guns in general. You can always ban a gun but a mentally disabled person can always use other weapon to kill(not saying that all mentally disable want to kill). It's best to focus on their health rather than the weapon they used but since our government is seriously useless that's most likely wont happen.
5 likes@Cole Jack Very well stated., and mirrors my thoughts totally.
1 like@Adam N ptsd is not a one size fits all disease. Some return just fine others are a slobbering mess never to be a human being again. In this case it was clear as day that the man met conditions to be criminally insane and should never have been handed the death penalty. It says much about America’s justice system where you continue to slaughter those who in any other western nation would have been put in a mental institution.
6 likes@Murphy 8455 i just simply disagree, metal health does not excuse murder in my opinion, we will have to agree to disagree
6 likes@Michael okay yeah, it’s way better than him being locked up. that’s even more heartbreaking
0 likestragic
0 likes@Michael “finally at ease”…. At ease? He’s dead lmao
0 likes@A Dark Gothic Forest can't believe you called this cop a pig. It shows a clear lack of critical thinking and intellect. This cop was doing his job and enforcing the law in a responsible manner. Speeding is a serious issue. Additionally the video demonstrates why cops need to be more assertive and at times use self defense or deadly force. This cop didn't take action to prevent Andy from reentering his truck, a fatal mistake. The other mistake was not taking action sooner once Andy was in the car.
0 likes@Jacob Lehn the vet put his life on the line for this country. He clearly wasn't mentally stable and how is speeding a little that big of a deal? The autobahn in Germany has no speed limits and the least accidents. You're reaching with the speeding puting people at danger theory
0 likes@Aaron Abele do you show the same sympathy when cops constantly spray and prey bullets, abuse their powers on the general public? Do you hold the same remorse when cops open fire at people unarmed just fleeing? I doubt it
1 like@A Dark Gothic Forest yeahhh except the autobahn does have speed limits in most places and the process to get a license in Germany is extraordinary difficult in terms of schooling and money. Also breaking the law is breaking the law. Youre forgetting g about the part where he pulled a gun on the officer too
1 like@A Dark Gothic Forest that comment has nothing to do with what I said. You're completely ignoring my point. You're taking a completely different situation, exaggerating beyond belief, and trying to somehow apply it here. I disagree with the veteran's death sentence but that doesn't mean I think the cop did anything wrong, as I said before he should've been more proactive.
1 like@A Dark Gothic Forest Calling him a pig for doing his job shows how immature and biased you are. He was clearly trying to do his job to stop Andy from driving dangerously. Also, your point about flashbacks is nonsense. Are the police supposed to be able to read minds or something? His mistake was waiting too long to shoot when Andy was a clear lethal threat.
1 like@Jacob Lehn His country totally failed him. That guy should never have been let out on the streets after he was diagnosed.
0 likes@Jacob Lehn what’s so just in killing another human and how that benefits society?
0 likes@FlymanMS because he obviously was not safe to be kept alive?
0 likesThats the idea of this whole video, video can convince the judge to put him in death sentence while story may put or doesn't put him in death sentence. That line at 23:18 until 23:26 is the whole reason this video exist.
0 likesYou cut the part out where he said "Die, F*****!". Because he shot him execution style in the eye.
0 likesGod that last bit with the Coca-Cola song made my hair stand up (sobering)
0 likesI would NOT want to find myself at the end of a barrel from a deranged Vietnam war veteran trying to kill me.
0 likesMan I feel bad for veteran. The powers that be really did a number on him. Hope his dog wasn't hurt too
3 likesAlso- the first war to be reported on? Don't think so
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It was the first to be reported at such a high degree in the US. Citizens could watch the events as they unfolded, from their couch. That’s partly why there was so much pushback against the war in the US.
0 likesThe sequencing or structure of the content in this video is near genius. Really great
21 likesOk so how did that one guy who was clinically insane in the other jcs video get sentenced to life in a psychiatric hospital after killing a man for literally no reason. But this man who clearly had mental problems as well did basically the same thing but he gets death. Somethings wrong with our court system.
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It's explained clearly - video footage influences juries
0 likesThe rookie cop should've let the case be after his initial confrontation with Andy. The symptoms of his delirium combined with him shouting he was a Nam veteran were so blatant an indication the situation was about to get unstable he should have admit it wasn't worth the trouble for a speeding ticket. He already had his information too. It was a very regrettable mistake that I assume can be attributed to a combination of inexperience and the need to prove himself.
1 likewell, he has been recommended for the death sentence for the cop killing! That is some great news for me.
0 likesProbably the saddest video on this channel.
0 likesseeing a homeless veteran on the road today really didnt help how i feel. horrible how this country treats those who've risk their lives for the privileged...
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for the extremely wealthy*
7 likesAlso double sided edge in that others exploit that empathy for veterans to ask for money… sadly
1 like@djwuefnkf0 dhh28jdj92fe for the elite fun
1 like@djwuefnkf0 dhh28jdj92fe that's what they meant by the privileged, i assume.
0 likesThen remember the German soldiers in both world wars. They were going through hell, fought in the biggest battles in the history of humanity, we’re forced to do genocides and massacres especially against children to prevent the next generation of Slavic people. And after the war they got nothing. No help. No memorials. They were even hunted by the police and drank themselves to death. No country treated it’s soldiers as bad as Germany did.
1 likeAnd yes the things they did were extremely bad but they still sacrificed or would sacrifice their lives for their country and their families, otherwise the government had treated them like traitors.
0 likesWe need more video in this channel
0 likesWow. Pain. Everyone is in pain.
0 likeswith the composition of this video.. song is haunting.. you made a good job..
1 likeThis is why judges or jury should not be emotionally driven.
0 likeslook, i don’t care who you are, or what you have going on in your life, killing is not the answer, and he knew that, he deserves the time
0 likesThis is by far the best JCS video
1 likeIt's kind of hard to have sympathy for the guy when he murdered a pregnant woman in cold blood and unloaded on a cop. It's still police brutality though. The issue is that the brutality doesn't stop with cop killers.
0 likesMen and women that fight for our freedom in war.. that have killed and seen dead bodies… shouldn’t just be THROWN back into society like it’s normal. I’ve personally seen family members come back from war a completely different person.. lifeless almost.. very meek. It’s heartbreaking how little the country seems to care for our soldiers.
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place. . ."
1692 likesHoly shit, dude. . .
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that last bit brought shivers down my spine
96 likesI was about to comment this too. That was a hard pill to swallow
43 likesShook me up how he was able to apologize. He really wasnt a bad man.. just a victim of war who lost his sanity. Idk its controversial to think this over. But in my heart i want to believe he was a good person destroyed by war.
193 likesBrought tears to my eyes. So horrible and sad.
43 likesthe ending of these videos are powerful
34 likesWell don‘t we all
4 likesYeah, that fucked me up. Trying to sob quietly so my family don't think I'm hav9ng some sort of crisis.
16 likesJacob Eberlein i completely agree w you it’s crazy how much of an effect war can have on a persons mental state
4 likes@poponachtschnecke Same. It was like getting punched in the gut. I won't be searching up the complete video.
14 likesSo sad 😞 so tragic, poor guy was murdered by his own country in the end
6 likesI felt those words.
3 likes😞
0 likesWhat means this exactly? Sorry, German..
0 likes@Christian Stuber It means that he is happy to be dying, so that he could leave this life. "This place" means his life, and he is happy to be leaving it. It's powerful because he basically refers to something as complex as life, as a place; such as a house or a country showing heavy disdain. He was unhappy with the way life had treated him. Greetings from America
7 likesJacob Eberlein the officer he killed had a toddler. The full video is incredibly incredibly disturbing. He also shot him in the knees and legs to make him suffer and then in the head/eye. He tortured the man and you can hear him begging for his life.
3 likesITHEREONETHATHASNT how so explain this logic sense a black guy would’ve been dead stepping out of the car and just approaching him how he did that black mans smoked you and I know that. Explain this comment in actually gonna try to read to understand the logic of it. Go!?????
2 likes@johnny bird No need to make up things that didn't happen.
0 likesITHEREONETHATHASNT if that’s what you surmised from this video I feel sorry for your lack of critical thinking abilities. The actual point of the video went completely over your head
3 likesHeartbreaking...
0 likes@Jacob Eberlein Agree
0 likes@D B Not even worth addressing imo. Better if everyone just ignores them
0 likesWell this was fucking heartbreaking.
0 likesIt's honestly awful that it's 2021 and when someone says Vietnam I think of a fiery smoking jungle and some dumb song from the 60s. Definitely my problem but still a shame
0 likesPolice officer: sir come here!
0 likesAndrew: 💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃
Please I hollered so loud
This video is so entirely underrated
0 likesAbsolutely tragic, for everyone.
228 likesyoutube asked me to verify that i wanted to watch this video, since it has been flagged by several people for being inappropriate.. Im happy that they give you the option, instead of just taking the video down..
0 likesDAMN i enjoyed those cops bashin that dude with the truth
0 likes"War, war never changes."
0 likesThe death count of the Vietnam will always be incorrect. Think about that
1 likeThe video of the wife asking for someone to help her was chilling. She must have gone through so much. May her and her baby's beautiful souls rest in peace
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Seriously. What's tragic is how often those are played up for jokes & get ignored. For every video like that where someone in danger is 'just a joke' there are ones like this where that wife was literally making a cry for help but masking it as she was sitting next to her future killer.
32 likesYou're the only youtube I would pat for the content for if it wasn't available here.
0 likesi was already typing an angry comment about the happy music on the horrific napalm footage... but JCS didn't disappoint
1 likeWhat an intro... Scorsese would be proud.
1 likeThose last words, damn
0 likesThis story is so sad. Some many things went wrong along the way that could have been avoided :(
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Yea like starting a war in Vietnam which killed thousands of people and brought veterans ptsd.
13 likes@Revolter exactly
1 like@Revolter why was it start in the first place?
0 likes@Alex Roy Look up the Gulf of Tonkin incident. US navy staged a false flag and attacked North Vietnamese ships in the Gulf of Tonkin. That is what the NSA report said in 2005.
1 like@Revolter yeah but what was the goal money?, power?
0 likes@Alex Roy To the American public, it was told that the goal was to prevent the spread of the communist ideology in south-east Asia. There was a "domino theory" in the United States during the Cold War, which held the belief that if Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia fall to communism, it'll spread further to the neighboring countries, such as Thailand, and further on from there. It was believed that the United States had to support the capitalist southern Republic of Vietnam against the communist northern Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Viet Cong to prevent this spread, not just with the training and equipment they were already giving, but with troops in combat.
0 likesAs for money, who knows what happens behind closed doors between businessmen and politicians? The war industry always benefits from conflict, by selling whatever the militaries need.
Now tell me… HOW is LIFE in prison better than capital punishment
0 likesPTSD is the only justice countries get out of the USA deciding to attack them
0 likesYet while it's not the soldiers falt, nor of course the other country's fault. The people at fault keeps living wealthiethly happy
Can’t wait for more videos
0 likesWell America, you've created warriors to blanket what you didn't want to see. The problem is, they were just humans, too fragile, physically unable to contain all that darkness within themselves. May God have mercy on your souls.
1 likeThing is, regardless of how one feels about a person and their actions, there are legal avenues specifically to take away the burden of revenge and vigilante justice. Attorneys must defend people who are guilty of heinous crimes on the regular, surgeons operate on such people all whilst keeping their moral obligation in mind. Yet, when it comes to law enforcement, who deal with these situations DAILY, can not keep their hands to themselves when exercising their duties. Especially when harm is inflicted to one of their own, but fuck it when one of their own inflicts harm (whether theoretically justifiable or not under other circumstances) to another. And that is why it's wrong, plain and simple. Because even though just about anyone would say 'Fuck that guy, he can rot' they do not get to decide the repercussions for perpetrators or suspects, nor assert their own punishment.
18 likesVietnam, the first and last war where citizens got a clearer vision of the horrors of war. As the US learned its lesson well here, and restricted press access in the Gulf War and every war thereafter. Be honest? Lose your press pass!
0 likesMan what the hell. I know he's a monster and kills in cold blood but just for the sake of interrogation I would have gave that man medical aid. Trying to build any trust, after four minutes common it was obvious the strategy was failing
0 likesHindsight is 20 20 tho
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It has nothing to do with interrogation tactics. It's just typical racist US cop scum. Markeith Loyd is truly an abhorrent man, and he deserves tremendous punishment, but dealing out punishment simply isn't the police's fault.
0 likesIt's back! But damn took like 5 confirmations just to watch it, up from the 3 confirmations before it was taken down
0 likesI don’t understand what these two stories had to do with each other. Also why was mar Keith’s hair long in court but short when he was being interrogated?
0 likesGoing from feeling sick with sadness over Officer Kyle's death to hearing Andrew's last statement was an emotional rollercoaster that just gutted me. I'm so sorry we as a society failed both of these men..
9 likesSide note: Editing was just excellent. The choice to add the footage mentioned at the beginning of the video was absolutely more impactful than if it was immediately released. Applause to you!
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I absolutely agree, on both notions
0 likeswhats even more crazy about youtube is that they allow for educational content right? Which majority can agree it is. And all of this information is public for the most part. Yet they censore and say you cant have this content because its violent. Yes chairman board of Youtube, criminal psychology can get violent, but it is also educational to those wanting to get into a career. So...why?
0 likesI fkn loveeeee seeing this dudes eyebrow protrude like 4 inches in front of his face
1 likeMan this one was fucking powerful
1 likeI’m out of videos to watch, but in the mean time before your next one, could you just read me the phone book?
26 likesLast video in this epic journey starting with "the legend of Jeff". Everyone watching is now united in a multi day binge that will likely tip the FBI off for suspicious behavior. Farewell friends, we are all connected.
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this really makes me sad that this is the last one 😔😔 this was the best binge watching experience i’ve ever had
18 likesWhat do you mean multi-day? Amateurs.
17 likesSee ya on the next video
4 likesLove how this was the last video for a lot of us
13 likeswe are now all part of a JCS fanclub. i salute my fellow bingers on that FBI watchlist.
2 likes😂😂😂
0 likes2 channels and 21videos later. patreon up next this was a really good bingeing experience
0 likesBest binge watching of my life. Neck to neck with mr ballen’s channel.
1 like😭😭
0 likesthe way i see it, my FBI agent is probably on the same watch list as I am. he's watching them with me, ain't he? check and mate, FBI man
0 likesCant wait for a new banger amazing content
0 likesMan what a vid, like not so crazy long, has a very good theme with the video stuff, actual soundtrack for once in a JCS vid... Yet the least watched of all of them... Damn YouTube, just censoring good vids I see...
0 likesThe other JCS vids are crazy good too of course, love every single one of them
I can't watch this video without giving YouTube my credit card information...
0 likesThey put them on high pedastals and treat them like God's but throw them out like toilet paper when they're no longer usable 💔
0 likesIt’s strange how hopeful and heartbreaking the phrase “I’m glad to be getting out of this place” is. His mind, and by extension life was hell. I don’t give him sympathy, but I understand why he could blow up and shoot an officer over nothing. Maybe he could’ve been rehabilitated, or have been safe to society if he received a lesser sentence, but he sounds remorseful and relieved for his life to finally end.
43 likesMarkeith though, I don’t see how his treatment should be a mitigating factor in a trial for his actions committed well before his arrest. The officers should have faced legal consequences in a separate trial. Sounded like the jury was apologizing for the actions of the police with their verdict.
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Completely agree. His treatment during his arrest should have been a completely seperate case cause it had nothing at all to do with his charges or his guilt in the deliberate cold blooded killing of two women and his own unborn child. Which is what his trial was about. That was like the courts saying 'fuck justice, we'll let a murderer get off easy to teach the cops a lesson'. It's messed up.
4 likesSheechiibii Fox everything is used for or against him in the court of law. It’s not just a random right the cops say, it’s true. The detectives dropped the ball when they let there emotions get in the way. If they just had conducted a unbiased interrogation and, maybe let him have gotten medical treatment before doing so. Then the jury would have seen that all the rotten unsympathetic attitude he was showing came from himself and not the deserving crap he went through.
3 likesIt would probably be very difficult to understand the mind of a person living with PTSD. They have to live everday with the things they have seen. You would probably look for release from that kind of fear and pain everyday even at the cost of another.
1 like@AgeDrain I've never heard cops say that. Just the usual 'anything you say can be used against you in court' but if that is a thing I still dissagree. Im aware that the outcome is a result of the current system. I just dissagree with this method of never charging or punishing cops who break the law. Instead lessening the sentance of a ruthless killer as if that is in any way just at all. In this case everyone who did wrong got away with it. And if that is by design then it's not a part of any system that can rightfully call itself 'justice' imo.
1 like@Sheechiibii Fox there are so many variables I don't think you're considering, plus police do get punished for their misadventures (lack of a better word). You also have to realise that cops are going to stick up for each other, even through times when they're wrong.
0 likesIn the UK, there's a higher standard for finding doctors or nurses guilty of misconduct in their job. Obviously these jobs differ, but they're both public services (in the UK at least) meaning their job is to protect/look after civilians. Basically, if you were to hold them to the same threshold as a civilian you're opening the flood gates for case after case, effectively making it impossible for them to perform their job, avoiding any risk of making a mistake and being sued heavily for it. I know doctors in the US are extra careful. So what I'm saying is, sometimes cops have to perform tasks that normal civilians wouldn't be capable of doing, due to training and experience, plus with a high pressured situation, the decision made at the time can feel like the right one, even if in hindsight it seems wrong.
There were other things you didn't consider, but I'm on my phone and it's difficult to read your comment without deleting everything I just put, haha. I hope this made sense.
@Lujan KLIPS I don't dissagree with police being held to a different standard at all, but there's a difference between, for example, letting cops away with accidental injury of civilians in the line of duty (similar to not blaming surgeons for cutting you open), and letting them away with deliberately beating/torturing suspects as though that's just a misadventure. That's not standard practice, I'm pretty sure that is against the law even for cops.
0 likesBesides, how does any of that mean that a completely seperate crime should be impacted by it? The police brutality had no impact on the murder whatsoever, it took place well after the victims had been murdered. Why should justice not fully be served for that crime?
Sheechiibii Fox Have you watched the videos on this channel????
0 likes@Mangos28Yeah, I've watched them all, how about you?
0 likesSad story man.
0 likesIf you stop at 6:27 then you get a happy ending
0 likesWhy is it shortened 😭
5 likesI just started the video and since it asked me if I really wanted to watch it, now I'm scared to watch it. Can someone just tell me what it shows that might disturb me? Thank you!
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I don’t find anything disturbing at all I don’t understand the warning
0 likesPotentially sensitive topics covered: Vietnam live footage and the impact the media had on the public - no graphic content shown, PTSD after returning home, suicide and death, mania, veteran vs deputy gun fight. Discussion about mental illnesses related to crimes committed.
1 likeThree weeks later and Im back, and still shedding a tear.
21 likes"I am proud to have been able to walk point for my comrades, and pray that they do not have to do the same. Im glad to be getting out of this place."
Even when facing death, as he did numerous times Im sure, he still knew that what he did for his fellow soldiers in that war was a good thing and Im damn proud of him to be able to still hold that conviction. A real fucking hero. Even if Vietnam was unjustified, I cant take anything away from the people who served there. May you rest easy Andy, you didnt deserve what happened to you, and neither did all of those young men.
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And...Andy understood that Kyle didn't deserve it either. Needs to be said. What he did to Kyle is not ok. It is important to remember that. ... It would be a nightmare to face this guy in combat as a traffic cop. ... this sucks for everyone. I hope the dog got a fair shake.
1 likeThose poor bastards, half the troops in nam we're the poor and uneducated thrown through a fast 8 week boot/training and shipped off. McNamara's 100,000 (project 100,000) is what it was called in case anyone's looking for videos to check out
0 likesCop was WAY to patient , shouldn’t of just pepper strayed him and tasered him
0 likes10:40 oh damn she knew!
0 likesThose where no jokes
And here in lies a main issue with police training. De-escalation . You see a man get out of his truck, he is agitated and acting in an abnormal way, you don't SHOUT at him because that is how you escalate the situation with a person who is obviously not mentally well.
0 likesYour videos are excellent! Our vets damaged in war, struggling with PTSD and other seen and unseen injuries deserve the support of our nation. That veteran should’ve gotten better help...help that he deserved. It’s sad to hear that he was relieved to be executed and to no longer have to fight an endless mental war brought on by trauma and pain.
13 likesMy grandpa died in Vietnam war serving the United states. My wife's grandfather is a retired USA Vietnam veteran. He went hunting one morning with his Vietnam vet vest. Got beat up by 4 white guys because he was Asian and he had Vietnam vet on his vest. He was 60.
0 likesThis video was confusing the way it jumped around
3 likes14:07 he’s taller and wider then all of the cops in this photo
0 likesHe was 100% disabled and had nobody to check on him, to refill and take his medication? Unbelievable.
0 likesDamn how eerie that pregnant woman who was saying she won’t make it in the car with him .then he kills her
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It's not eerie to me. She made the same mistake that alot of women make. Ignoring red flags and messing with thugs. Every time I warn my female peers about dudes like him, they never listen and they get hurt. Somebody probably told her that he was no good and she didn't listen until it was too late.
133 likesIt’s obvious the poor girl had a horrible gut feeling and pushed it away. Her talking about it jokingly like she was is probably the only way she could cope with the gnawing terror she truly felt inside about him. Sadly a lot of people do this and its 99% of the time a correct feeling
168 likes@Doppelganger D sounds like you're victim blaming... wtf
230 likesMisguided Angel
4 likes@Doppelganger D I’d word it differently : she made the mistake of not listening to her intuition. Your intuition is almost always right
55 likes@L uhh, she aint to blame for being murdered tho, that dont make any sense.
70 likes@frnk Please don't start with the social justice. I'm being realistic.
25 likes@Doppelganger D think about the way you word your comments then. I don't have the time or energy to explain why I had an issue with your comment & I don't think you care anyway. I never said anything about social justice or being an "sjw" whatever that's supposed to mean. bye
78 likesSounds like you’re a typical nice guy, D, and that’s not a compliment
47 likes@Jenifer Joseph Watch out, he's gonna call you a soyboy next (or maybe soygirl? who knows with these people)
32 likesThe PO-Lease are here to help.
0 likes@Doppelganger D “messing with thugs” what is the definition of a thug to you?
29 likes@Jimbo in swoops the white knight, right on cue. Get you some of those virtue signaling points tiger!
2 likesyall forgot she’s pregnant with his kid. it’s not that easy to just walk away. if she merely relies on her gut feeling and leaves him she’d be a single mother in the hood. yes she made the mistake of not trusting her intuition, but a lot easier said than done, all things considered.
29 likes@Doppelganger D Stay away from guys in general. Most guys exhibit these red flags. And even ones who don’t murder. Stay away from all of them.
10 likes@dreamynights don't over generalize, never helps anyone also minimalizes the real problem.
6 likes@Doppelganger D a lot of people*, it goes both ways, i’ve seen it go both ways
0 likes@Doppelganger D I wouldn't call him a "thug." He had PTSD.
7 likesShe should of heeded the redflags
1 like@Matthew McDonough They're talking about the other guy, the one who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the female police officer who attempted to arrest him later on.
5 likes@frnk "think about the way you wors things."
2 likesHow about you think about the way you interpret things? Projecting your own conclusions onto others. Gtfo
@Sicknificant FGC ugh. I could explain why the victim blaming comments bother me but I don't wanna spend my energy arguing about it with people who probably won't even try to listen to another perspective. that's why I said "bye" but even though you apparently read that, you still felt the need to tell me to "gtfo." not sure what you're trying to accomplish here
11 likes@frnk I noticed you said "bye" and knew you'd see my comment and not be able to resist responding all while still saying nothing.
1 like@Sicknificant FGC your goal was to make me say nothing? yikes. if you actually read my comments then you already knew I wasn't going to argue.
7 likes@Sicknificant FGC muting you now because this is a pointless waste of time
1 likeShe knew it was coming :(
1 likeIt’s biblical, law of attraction, you get what you ask for.
0 likesYour thoughts and words are powerful
That man, Markeith, wreaked pure murder and mayhem, when they eventually caught him, they beat him so bad he lost his eye.
0 likesWhat's more disturbing is that people defend scumbags and murderers who dis nothing good for society like Lloyd, and yet a veteran get sentenced to death.
1 like@Doppelganger D and not only women make these mistakes.
0 likes@Doppelganger D a guy with ptsd is not a “thug” and thinking like that will assure that no solution is sought after
1 like@shay he is talking about the thug who shot his girlfriend.
0 likes@shay can you read?
0 likes@Doppelganger D you sound like a real nice guy
0 likesWell thanks for the late night entertainment. This comment thread is ridiculous lol.
0 likes“you’re a bitch in body armor” 💀💀
1 like19:11 dude really said -_-
1 likeShe need to lay off the crack.... Love how the chopper moved the camera so it didn't catch the brutality
0 likesIf this video didn’t make you cry then idk what’s wrong with you.
1 likegreat video
0 likesThis JCS video deserves more views.
0 likesSo sad ☹️
0 likesthe dashcam footage was hard to watch especially hearing the death rattle at the end of the video. fuck
0 likesDamn… smh. These are like mini documentaries. Unlike the other studies there is no right or wrong in this scenario. PTSD is real, & no one wins when it comes to war & those who fight them
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The endless question that never has an answer; how do we deal with all these men, damaged by war and put them back together in a way that works in society..
5 likesWell said, it’s just a heartbreaking situation all around
2 likesAndrew Soul died Vietnam. His physical body just didn't know it yet.
0 likesandy bernard really has a sad backstory
0 likesIt's a good thing I'm not a police officer because I would completely lose it if I caught the guy who killed a pregnant woman and police officer..
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Ughhhh women..
1 likeThe hell? That was an excellent video! Why did people report this? Youtube is giving me 2 different warnings before I watch!
1 likeThis is super sad :(((((
0 likesAndy was a bad ass. Rip
1 likeThe intro gives me the vibes of a Michael Moore film … 🤔
0 likesWhat's the name of the song at the end ? I like your videos. Better than expernsive documentaries.
1 likeI haven't cried watching dashcam video before but hearing the horror in the deputy's voice killed me
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If you've watched the full dashcam it's a lot more heart wrenching. There's a pause in the firefight where Kyle begs Andy to stop, and he does ...
23 likesExtremly wrong that he got any punishment at all. He shoulve been stripped of all weapons though^^.
1 likeit is obvious he tried suicide by cop but he was too skilled and won accidentally
9 likes@Chabooey yo u good?
0 likes@Chabooey am I a racist for thinking the man killing his baby mama is evil?
0 likesi watched your entire channel 3 times by now but, this video was never recommended or shown to me.
0 likesman, i really wanted to try a vr horror game.
0 likesI got asked 7 times if I wanted to even watch this
0 likesThat intro is immaculate.
0 likes"The wounds of war can be healed, but never hidden."
742 likes- Narrator
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We saw the video
13 likes"Soothed. Sedated."
11 likes@Lemon Drop it's a darkest dungeon reference
6 likes@Marcelo García Del Hoyo my bad
1 likeWell yea the police were biased against him lmao; he smoked a cop. I don't see any problem with what the did beside failing to beat him to death in the first place
0 likesFunny how this is the only video that got this restricted, tackling American taboo subjects like gun violence, Vietnam war and citizen/police relationship.
0 likesCrazy the amount of our men who returned with HIV and addicted to heroin. Honestly Americas first L.
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Also crazy how a country can treat its men like numbers and sacrificed. Replacing them 2:1 rate death to health young man
0 likesSad AF 😭😭
0 likesCan’t believe i’m watching this for free.. do you have a patreon we can support you on?
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@zylo404 where do you find the patreon? I looked all over his YouTube page but can't find it
7 likes@zylo404 sounds a bit sketchy if the channel doesn't directly link it...
65 likesExcuse me but what country are you from Linnea? Is it Norway or Iceland?
4 likes@BeavzMC Well it does seem legit... I was just being a little cautious and all, I don't mean to point fingers at anybody but, thanks!
2 likes@Scott Johnson I’m actually from Sweden, close enough!! :)
5 likesYESS LIKE FUCK I WNANA PAY U I’ve learned so much about the human mind as if school never existed like wtf now that my mind is opened I can spot anything anyone trying to psychologically play me I HAVE U NOW BITCH is how I been feeling after coming across this page 😭😭😂
8 likesNetflix could get some ideas here
1 like@Linnéa Danielsson Har du också gråtit för Andy B? 😭
0 likes@Yonico YouTube premium
0 likes@jryde421 his voice is perfect for this kind of content
1 likeJust pure informational content given to you without someone benefitting from it financially.
1 likeMany of those youtube creators who MADE you believe that they are poor, or struggling, ect are actually just content grifters who view their channel as a money making machine.
Stop acting like you own anyone anything. You don't.
I was thinking the same thing... way better than most crap on payed tv... Love your name 😉
2 likesYou’re on YouTube you realize ? You can’t believe you are watching it for free - because why? The value ? There are some amazing content creators on YouTube - and they are all free. That’s just a strange statement.
2 likes@Joey McAllister Of course there is plenty of other people on youtube, and many of them provides free content which I appreciatie. You don’t HAVE to do anything, but my question was from my perspective. I have watched all videos on this channel and want more. It takes time, energy and knowledge for these videos to be made and money is the reason people have roof over their head. Btw, isn’t there plenty of weird comments on youtube?
6 likesViews help him
1 like@Cashandra Doe fuck that i duno guy i luv the way u type queen but fr omfg he explains everything so well nd its so interesting to me!!! alwayz been interested in how the mind works but nothing haz been as engaging as his content
1 like@Linnéa Danielsson send me some cash too
0 likesIt's a free platform... That's the whole point of a platform like this. This isn't TV.
1 like@Gyvulys they are saying that the content takes so much effort that they personally find it worth paying for.
0 likesGay
0 likes@Aidyn Lewis who put in the effort tho what’s his name. I went to the narrators channel in one of his comments he said all he does is read the scripts who writes them
0 likes@sell god Xid well i mean the writer along with the editor put in the effort i suppose.
0 likesI'll never understand people who would defend a person like Lloyd. He's still alive, blind or not, its more than he deserves. The pathetic people on that jury are part of the problem with the world today.
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No one is really defending Loyd's actions. What he did was despicable. He was afforded life in prison over the death penalty for the brutality of his treatment by the police both during and after arrest. They can state what they want about the reason they beat him at time of arrest but to then outwardly treat him as they did after is why Loyd was spared. The jury agrees Loyd deserves punishment and also punishment isn't to be inflicted in an inhumane way that goes against basic rights set forth by the law of our country and is without exception. If the police had treated him with composed apathy and not reduced themselves to acting at Loyd's level of disrespect and disregard for human life, Loyd would have seen the death penalty. The veto of the death penalty in this case was the juries way of saying they wouldn't reward cruel and criminal behaviour from the Police but also they recognize the actions taken by Loyd required severe punishment. Thus life in prison.
1 likeBoneheaded constable are called hammers; were once school bullies.
0 likesDUH! if the copes are mad at you, you cant be put to death for murder.
0 likesFrom Go Brandon to Goodbye Brandon. Thank god.
0 likesMy favorite of your films
0 likesits crazy how ppl can watch this and defend war...
0 likesKinda disappointed there was no police interview
0 likesSomeone get JCS a Netflix contract
0 likesI personally, love reading everyone’s comments about how they IMMEDIATELY stop, whatever they were doing to watch these videos. Hahah because I do the exact same thing!
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Yeah.. I was in the middle of resuscitating a poor old woman, whilst waiting for the ambulance.. Didn't end well for her - But the silver lining is that I got to watch this video immediately! Always look for the positive, even in a negative situation.
17 likesI waited one time, and the video was unavailable the next day. Never again.
9 likesmy cereal is soggy
3 likesi wish it werent so true, but these videos never get saved to my Watch Later.. i always watch it right away.
2 likesFor real... JCS is the only channel I put on notifications for
3 likesI want to go shit but I have to see the video first
0 likesI've got in big shit for watching this instead of painting the house
1 likeYeah... I actually woke up as soon as I got the notification ! And I only slept 4 hours 🙊😳.... I am glad I am not the only one
0 likesI stopped steering my car to watch this 25 minute video
1 likeMy boyfriend is ready to leave me and I cant stop watching
0 likesdamn... real life saving private ryan
0 likesI had to confirm 4 times to watch this
0 likesCome on!
Is this the man that started singing, here I am, hear I am, shoot me, shoot me??? I saw a clip once some where??
1 likeThey should have prosecute Nixon for this one
1 like"Im glad to be getting out of this place"
1902 likeshe never came home...
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I think he meant finally leaving this world…but who knows 🤷♂️
117 likesThis comment broke my heart. PTSD is all too real and the negligence of this country in the past century to assist those who are witnesses to and involved in such violence of war will be detested in years to come.
85 likes@TGANG 93103 He did but you have to read in-between the lines. Death for him is finally leaving the hell that Vietnam made his life into. He hasn't been there physically for years but in his mind, most likely, he was reliving it every day, especially when he wasn't on his medication. Some people, like Andy, even though they are with us physically died emotionally in those jungles. "I'm glad to be getting out of this place." means everything.
104 likesedit: Its very poetic, really.
@paujjay couldn’t have said it better myself. Exactly what I thought when I heard that.
5 likes3:49 hodor-button
3 likesThat end hit so fucking hard man
13 likesMade me break down in tears right when he read that off, that poor man deserved better than what that war ended up giving him..
5 likesknow guys that have night terrors every time they sleep, cant wake em up without them coming at you. Best you can do is be there for them and try and get them the help they deserve.
5 likes@Mahar Ammar its not those who serve that are corrupt. Its those in power that send them to those places. They pick up the poor and the desperate and the sadly blindly patriotic who think they are going to do good. I understand where you come from with your statement but again please don't blame the men who are ordered there. But the men who order them there. Thats where the corruption is and i agree with you it is evil and corrupt and should be stopped. But these young soldiers are also innocent pawns played by the corrupt.
19 likes@Dylan Hough im pretty sure Mohammed Ali was sent to fight in this war. They forced him, but he didnt go. He said why should i do that and kill random people i dont know? They stripped him of his boxing championship title and pretty sure they gave him jail time. He did it. They arent idiots they are grown ass men
1 likeAn all to common, but terribly sad phrase.
2 likesThere's something pretty real, and very candid about it. Life is a journey we all play roles in. If life is a play and we are all but actors, then it says a lot to basically announce that you've been waiting for the curtain to draw.
1 like@Mahar Ammar ah but the grunt on the ground who is fighting for his country is not to blame for the orders he’s given especially when it’s illegal to ignore drafting. This man nobly served his country and then once it was done using him it threw him away like garbage. He is by no means to blame for that
2 likes@Johnathan Tunstill v yeah so I dont understand why people feel so bad for this guy. He was in a war, boohoo. Anyone who thinks its ok to fight innocents, and does fight them for no reason deserves to go crazy lol
0 likes@Mahar Ammar war is hell for everyone involved, and often both sides have fair share of innocents and not innocent. You could call the U.S. terrorists, but these people swept up in the fighting, led to believe that they were fighting Communist invaders to free the South (similar to how the Korean War was portrayed) are not all to blame for the actions of warmongering or otherwise greedy politicians or corrupt commanders. To my knowledge, draft dodging was not only going against common culture/potentially getting labeled a traitor etc. but those caught doing it could potentially get in big trouble (it was illegal after all IIRC), and most importantly, many of those being drafted, or volunteering had no idea what they were really getting into, or what impacts such a war would have on them. The entire beginning of this video is basically filled with examples of U.S. propaganda, and being raised in a highly anti Communist, Mccarthyist environment meant that young people were pretty likely to fall for it if they weren't forced to go anyway, so most of these people were not "fighting innocents for no reason," as some either believed that what they were doing was right, and others didn't want to go against culture and the law if they had been drafted.
2 likesPertaining to my original statement, both sides had plenty of war crimes during this war. A lot of people fairly call the U.S. out over war crimes such as the Mai Lai massacre, and in general all the bombs being dropped, but do not forget that the VietCong would gladly burn villages of innocents to the ground and kill everyone in it if that village had contact with U.S. relief effort just to persuade the surviving local populace, or the surrounding villages to hate the U.S. Plenty of NVA/VietCong also made use of toxic/biological warfare, and wouldn't hesitate to shoot Medics or doctors. Plenty of the North Vietnamese and VietCong were undertstandably sick of occupation, and wanted their land back. Plenty of good natured people who didnt commit war crimes, and only wanted what was best for their country from the U.S. and allied nations got thrown in there too. Both sides also had examples of corrupt leadership/sadistic people in charge at a commander level (ever heard of The legendary Vietnamese "Apache" who would skin prisoners alive, cut off eyelids, fingernails, and castrate them before letting them wander to their painful death by bloodloss? Meanwhile the U.S. had commanders who were trigger happy, like Captain Ernest Medina, who was largely responsible for the hundreds of innocent who were gunned down at Mai Lai). You seem to be under the impression that this man speficically shot innocent civilians, when it seems he only fought against other combatants. It's not so simple as good guys and bad guys across a war that spanned a decade, and involved millions. Not all GIs gunned down civilians, and not all VietCong warriors were sadistic people obsessesed with skinning POWs alive. Everyone has a different story.
This specific person witnessed 14 of his colleagues die horrific deaths, and was unconscious of the insanity such events caused in him until later in his life, which was further escalated by the suicide and deaths of his siblings. That's why people feel bad. He got swept up in this cruddy war he was either lied to about, or forced to go to by law and/or expectations to serve his country, then actually lost it and ended up being sentenced to death by the very country he once believed he was serving. In the end, he seemed to realize what he had done based on his closing statement. If he could go back, he would almost undoubtedly have choosen to run away and flee from the law rather than go to Vietnam, but I doubt he really knew what the war held. Truthfully I, and many others feel bad for most everyone involved in that war. Vietnamese for being occupied and all the death they witnessed, and U.S. citizens who were drafted to fight a morally insecure, rich man's war and scarred for life.
@Noah ofcourse white people say ‘we have a different story feel bad for us’ okayyyy we know how oppressed Americans are. America fights the weak and takes advantage, it is what it id
0 likes@Mahar Ammar not everyone had Muhammed Ali's experience. Not everyone wanted to actively go against the law and risk jail, or pay huge, unaffordable fines to avoid the draft, nor did they necessarily know what they were getting into with that war. How do you know every single GI went there and killed? Some never wanted to fire their weapon. People of all races were swept with the draft too, and nobody is saying that you should feel bad for anyone. You were the one questioning why others had sympathy for the man in this specific story, so I did my best to explain.
1 like@Noah thank you for ur insight. I definitely learned nothing and feel still don’t feel bad for them but i understand that people don’t wanna go there and shoot. This man definitely shot though
0 likes@Mahar Ammar I agree that he shot, but I also know he was definitely shot at being a point man who was commanded to advance. I haven't learned anything either, but I do thank you for your perspective.
0 likes@Noah ur a cool dude Lol if people were this tolerant the world would be a better place ✌️
0 likes@Mahar Ammar thanks! You're pretty cool too :)
0 likesI've had quite a few bad conversations with people, so it's really nice to meet someone so tolerant
@Mahar Ammar that because you lack empathy. You only care about your side and not the others.
0 likes@Dan R dont tell me i lack empathy DAN. I dont like the american military LOL and wake up, others dont either because they either tried to kill us or bomb our countries 🤔
0 likes@benz.o americas military is ignorant not me
0 likes13:53 there’s like what 20+ cops lol
0 likesMasterpiece
0 likespoor man
0 likesImagine being defense attorney and trying to defend a guy who just killed three people including a newborn , people must really hate you after 😵💫😂
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Defense attorneys get a lot of hate for trying to get people acquitted for their crimes but that is just because the cast majority of people don't understand what defense attorneys actually do. The first biggest misconception is they can't blatantly lie if they know the truth. Their job is to get the innocent acquitted and protect the rights of the guilty so that the punishment does not exceed the culpability of the crime.
0 likes“Breaking News! A guy we trained to kill is killing!”
2949 likesI mean FUCK, people...
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Agree hardcore. I have ptsd from far less, so idk what people really expect
114 likesI was just telling a buddy how the military works so hard to destroy your self-identity to make you into a killer that it's weird we don't "decompress" soldiers in some manner. Teach them how to function as a civilian, not a warrior again.
143 likes@Slow 2 Respond within a week of my brothers first day job (he was 16), a couple of people ran in and one put a gun to his forehead to open the cashier machine but he had no idea how... his coworker then shoved my brother aside and said he can help them take whatever they want. He has crippling PTSD from that now
65 likesI dont know if the US military is somehow fucked because militaries "teach killing" in dozens of countries to thousands of people and they are still able to live perfectly normal lives. Modern lifestyle apparently makes you impotent as a warrior.
6 likes@Arvaa Kuka maybe something to do with the disillusion after realizing we were or are the aggressors and unlawfully invaded countries, destroyed them, and killed numerous innocent civilians??
56 likes@Stephanie Nuttall Yeah, that can certainly be a part of it. The morale the soldiers have is not only an important for their performance as soldiers, but obviously also contributes to their mental health.
6 likes@Umbamba Timbuktu Cringe
19 likes@Arvaa Kuka Remember though he was quite likely to have been drafted; a soldier not a warrior.
6 likes@Arvaa Kuka lol. how do you know that soldiers from other countries are living normal lives? most first world countries haven't been participating in wars for a long time. and in less developed countries people just don't really publicly talk about those things, so you wouldn't know about their struggles.
11 likesThe US citizens just go to wars far more often than citizens from other first world countries lmao
@meow pasha I was not talking about wars, I was talking about the military as an institution. And I know because I served in the Finnish military and everyone there was just fine despite being "trained as killers". So clearly the training is not the problem.
4 likes@Arvaa Kukawell, I believe that PTSD and other pshychological issues occure mostly with people who's been through war. that's what people are talking about. but also the military training is not the only factor that influences person's mental health. how the society of a certain country theats people in general have an impact too, even the training itself and the conditions of service are heavily impacted by that. here in Russia for example, human rights, mental health and well being of an avarage individual are not really viewed as important by the goverment institutions. and we have compulsory military service. young guys are certainly not trained to kill, just to follow meaningless orders. plus they are often abused and bored af, wasting a year of their lives. not great for mental health and socialisation especially if you already have issues with those. so thaining can be an issue, but it really depends on the society.
7 likes@Black Lives Dont Matter A thief once opined "I may steal but that does not make me inhuman".
5 likesSome people steal to feed their children. Some people steal because they feel wal-mart deserves to be robbed. In both cases I would deem it right. Children need to be fed and wal-mart is responsible for putting children in sweatshops.
We'll keep your indifference to human life and ignorance of its' complexities out of the conversation.
@Slow 2 Respond everyone handles trauma differently, so honestly someone could develop PTSD from something we’d view as minor. the way our brains function is so fascinating isn’t it.
3 likesa soldier we sent into the most gruesome and mentally painful war has lost his mind? how could this have happened? it isn't the government's fault though, must be his fault
8 likesi mean...are you srsly excusing him murdering some woman? dude.....
0 likes@Comedy TV i don’t think he is. i think he means that it shouldn’t be so shocking considering he was legally trained to murder doesn’t justify his actions though.
5 likes@Comedy TV He's not excusing his actions, he's pointing out that no one should be surprised that such an obviously disturbed person ended up committing such an atrocity. He was also referring to Andy B, not Markeith lloyd.
5 likesThats fucked up right?
0 likesAll part of the strategy of tension. The judicial system is hugely profitable. They’ve got to keep it going somehow. I guess all the drugs that the CIA imports and puts on the streets isn’t quite enough.
0 likes@Stephanie Nuttall No, it's more about watching your friends die and taking lives. It's not about geopolitics guy. Doesn't matter how just or unjust the war is.
1 like@meow pasha People don't get PTSD from training nor do they get PTSD from being in the military, it's from combat. People who say they got PTSD from training get laughed at and called pussies. After the Vietnam war the soldiers and marines coming home were spit on by civilians and abused. That added to their mental illness.
1 like@ITB yeah, I get that
0 likes@ITB okay, thanks for explaining another perspective to me. I can see how that would definitely play a part in the immediate situation of being at war. But what about afterward?...years later when becoming aware of the deceptive and manipulative reasons why they were there in the first place?
0 likes@Marcus Aurelius Antoninus well I understand that and I'm not ungrateful although I can see how i sounded that way. I'm just not proud of the things our military has done under false pretenses. Doesn't mean I spit on our troops.... More like just our/their leadership
1 like@Stephanie Nuttall Maybe, I don't really know but if you hear someone talking about PTSD it's usually because of combat.
0 likes@Stephanie Nuttall I understand that. I didn't mean to sound like "you personally". I actually got fired up by the amount of comments with the same general message. I agree with you, there hasn't been a single "necessary" war involving the US in a long, long time, it's all for money and power. What I can't stand is that after using their media pets to convince the population into supporting a war effort, they then use the same media pets to spread hatred for those who actually went and fight, I see this happening over and over starting with Vietnam. "Baby killers", "Well, the army trains them to kill", these are nonsensical, naive and usually damaging "slogans". If the establishment wanted to celebrate these Vets as heroes, then the people would buy it. They don't, what they want is division and demoralisation. If these vets had returned home as heroes, they would start talking, and the people would start listening, and soon you'd see a drastic decrease in warmongers being elected to office, they can't allow that, eh?
1 like@Stephanie Nuttall a lot of them just get it because of there fallen brothers not even necessarily because they develop the thought process that you stated . Usually when that’s the case (growing a conscious ) they speak out on it . Most of these guys just have ptsd from the fact that a person they trained with , ate with , and went through unimaginable suffering with together only for them to get killed in battle . A lot of these guys get survivals guilt and it really sucks . All because yes our government disposed of them like a napkin , no help whatsoever. Times have changed and it’s a lot better now but there is much more room for improvement when it comes to taking care of our vets .
0 likes😆😆😆
0 likesDuring my service I had the pleasure of working in and with SOCOM, United States’ Special Operations command. I experienced a lot in a lot of places, but in my perspective, it really is how the people around you take it. Of course I have some issues, but I think Vietnam was a whole different animal. They weren’t serving alongside confident battle hardened men, who can walk you through the trauma and give understanding to the things we went through. They were serving with men forced into a situation where they saw their friends dying left and right while the country was condemning every action. PTSD is definitely real for combat veterans, it’s something I struggle with as does just about everyone whose been to theatre, but Vietnam was a war who created mentally broken men, who also had the capacity to kill. Just from my perspective, that’s how I look at it.
0 likes@Arvaa Kuka
0 likesThe constant state of war that is present in some other countries, is not a desirable outcome. The people in those countries do not want to live like that which is why there are refugees.
@Arvaa Kuka
0 likesHow many Finnish soldiers experienced a war such as Vietnam? How many war veterans are there? Finland is also known for their progressive policies regarding people with mental health issues.
@meow pasha I served in the army and in a war in my country, PTSD as some society damaging thing is purely some joke made by westerners. Maybe your just weaker, maybe your people have more guilt, but while there's plenty of problems here it's not out veterans who are struggling emotionally or in processing what they did even after having to fight brothers for 5 years.
0 likes@meow pasha Many if not most "first world" countries have been actively participating in wars
1 like@Slow 2 Respond lots of ppl think they have "ptsd" from being misgendered. I think it's bullshit in 99% of cases. Combat vets and traumatic event survivors, aside.
0 likesYou are naive.
0 likes@Arvaa Kuka Well if you think of it, warriors were high value through out the whole history
0 likes@cecil keith because the US only spends hundred of billions duh? You think they could possibly support their soldiers after the job is done don’t be a snowflake!!
1 likeKill the enemy, not your allies at home.
0 likes@K4inan that's horrible but his coworker might have saved his life by doing that
0 likes@Christopher Yes. It must've taken lot of courage to take his place. He and my brother are now very good friends.
0 likesIt's a shame that this has so many thumbs up, as it's likely the single most disrespectful thing that someone could say about our military. Unsurprisingly, this kind of garbage comes almost w/out exception from ppl who have never known or spent time w/ veterans or soldiers.
1 likeWhen in doubt, be grateful for the freedom's that our veterans have fought for you to have rather than castigating them as mentally damaged potential murderers who forfeited all personal agency once they put on a uniform.
i dont know whats going on man
0 likes@Arvaa Kuka actually not that true, developed countries don't have so much people deployed, probably the only comparable one is China, but it's not. really a developed country, so yeah, even tho a lot of people have been in the military bc it was mandatory, or they are drafted, they weren't (aren't) on any battle fields... even current eu deployed personnel isn't as active in missions as us soldiers. You don't get PTSD from training, you get it bc you face death, or you bring death upon someone (mostly the second one)
0 likesOk but there’s thousands if not millions of people that fought in wars and didn’t end up murdering innocent people after the matter
0 likesKubrick is to thank for that ironic music trope.
0 likesYour best video yet
0 likesYou might as well put a slash partial markeith Lloyd in the title baby lol one of my fav stories watched both trials thank goodness and god he off the streets
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.” ....
2 likesMy brother introduced my to your content and I'm so glad he did, thank you for the time and work you put into your videos, happily binging them now and hope you get your own series soon, you definitely deserve it! x
9 likesHis dad look like the older dad in modern family, jesus
0 likesAndrew gets told a billion times to drop the gun.
3 likesBut Philando dies instantly.
Okay, so now we know where Rambo came from
0 likes“Man you just rappin” lmao
1 likeI don’t blame the cops for whooping his ass
0 likesThe most important case with minimal views.
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Because age restrictions
1 likemarkieth's interrogators remind me of jodi arias' interview on that one new station
0 likesHow can he get the rights to the music?
0 likesMy dad is Deaf so he was not drafted to Vietnam. But all of his friends were and I grew up surrounded by Vietnam vets. They all suffered. Those still alive are suffering still. Those who have died died as a result of injuries sustained in the war. This is just so sad.
82 likesHe should have said I need medical care.... and nothing else.
0 likesThis is horrific . Us government really takes care of all of us, don't they
0 likesThank you for fixing the Video sir
0 likes"bitch in a bulletproof vest" hahahaha
1 likeThat “I’m glad to be getting out of this place” hit so hard god damn.
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1 likeStraight up , i salute all the veterans , my great grandpa served in world war 2 and my great great grandfather served in world war 1
13 likesit is, brutal
1 likeSame bro that gave me chills
1 like@Sneaker Bay about the only veterans I salute! Thank you to all WWI&II veterans for their service and sacrifices. All the rest depends on the lens you view them through 🤷♀️
3 likesLikewise
0 likes@Angeline u know they didn’t choose to fight in the wars right? The government chose that
0 likesI was so, so confused by the comments, but I just realized--
1 likeThis isn't the whole video, huh? When all the content got pulled from your channel, you had to re-cut this one and excise half of it.
Lmfao I ain’t never been so happy to see excessive force. Which I will say wasn’t excessive as deserved 😌
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Pigs should never use excessive force no matter what, they are being emotional instead of staying professional
0 likesthis was deep
0 likesEverything aside, Andy has some sick ass moves
0 likesThis one has me fucked up. I don't usually find myself getting emotional over this kind of stuff but man, his last words hurt.
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"im glad to be getting out of this place"
19 likesdamm and the music after that was just spot on. war fucking sucks
This is my favourite video on his channel
0 likesAs for Andy. What he also did is not acceptable and deserved punishment. He did act in a manner that is reminiscent of C-PTSD symptomology and I believe they should have allowed for the defense of temporary insanity in relation to compounding factors and sentenced him to indefinite prison mental hospital hold with intensive treatment to gauge the level to which his mind could be rehabilitated. We are so quick to punish without efforts to care and rehabilitate which is where this country continues to fail.
0 likesblah blah blah about his last words, screw Andy B, Sadly these words would've been sufficient to immediately alter the freaking jury's decision. The irony when emotions are stronger than bulletproof evidence in a criminal justice system
0 likesWith the markeith loyd scenes lmao
0 likesHelicopter camera zooms in, cop kicks dude in the head like 3 times, helicopter camera swiftly swings away
You know when people post comments with "This is one of the best youtube channels " ? Well this is.
0 likesWow, this is a masterpiece. Definitely see you getting a Netflix series.
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He should!! It would be a hit.
4 likesIt would be nice but I imagine it would suck for him a a individual creator. You know how greedy these big corporations are. They wont give shit about him and the work he does as long as it makes them money. Would honest be better for him to just keep what hes doing as an independent creator.
9 likesomg no. It's perfect the way it is they would absolutely destroy it
6 likesNetflix would censor and control his narrative. He would change. Netflix is demonic. They don’t want Americans knowing their rights
2 likesWhy does everything always have to be on Netflix? I don’t get it
2 likes@Dick Lickersson It was a compliment. Jesus, cant say anything anymore without ruffling feathers.
1 likeNetflix or not - absolutely more people need to see and understand these visual essays.
0 likesNo way! Takes away creative control, loses the feel. I stopped watching 2 youtubers who sold out, it doesn't have the same personal feel. Dr. Pimple Popper is a good example. Her videos just aren't the same anymore. Hollywood chews you up and spits you out.
1 like@Rj SKUM you could compliment in other ways. Jim your videos are way better quality than the TV or other platforms. Every media mogul has their own agenda for what they think needs to be seen and heard. Besides CIA and all those run in the background of Hollywood.
1 likeRj SKUM My comment was pretty mild. Was a simple question. Looks more like I ruffled some feathers. Oh the irony.
0 likes@Jayvon Webb JCS isn't just one guy. It's a team.
1 likeHis least viewed video but one of his better videos
0 likesokay. Two wrongs dont make a right. But if the cops just dumped their clips into him. I wouldnt of lost sleep.
0 likesI think they weren’t mean enough to Loyd.
1 likeCops should have had shotguns atleast! Mini14 vs handgun 😔
0 likesIt's shocking that he wasn't declared insane to me... I am a firm believer that juries are absolute bs and i believe a judge would have decided differently. Oh and i can't help but think about the normal Vietnamese people who had to go through the war and were unable to get psychological help and had to live in a country that got destroyed. If veterans, who got to go home to an undestroyed country and got psychological help still have so many issues years later, i can't even imagine how they were doing...
27 likesOmg the Coca Cola song from my childhood...
1 likeSo depressing.
That opening 👌🏽
0 likes"They beat me" Ya, no one cares though.
1 likeReality has been deemed inappropriate by the overlords
0 likesMy uncle was a Vietnam vet and he would have flashbacks if his feet were wet especially a sweaty or wet sock. He was able to shower because it was running water, his feet were bare, and his whole body was also wet. Terribly sad. I guess his feet were always wet in Vietnam. RIP Butch, a true American patriot.
30 likesJFC has that cop at 9:05 ever held a gun before?
0 likes"They beat my ass"
0 likesMe: good
I don’t agree with Markeith’s life choices, but the fact that those interviewers didn’t even give him medical attention, and just ignored what he has to say..That’s fucked. How do you see a person in so much pain and not do anything??
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Bias because of what's he done. Which also influenced the judges to give him life imprisonment instead of death penalty.
0 likesI hope the prison guards told the inmates that he killed his wife and baby
0 likesThis is your least viewed video but its definitely your best by far. You did a fantastic job at opening my eyes to the biases that can form simply from the presentation of information, the order its given and how its presented.
7 likesIf Andrew Brannen was a black guy named Antoine Bellamy he would've had more holes running through him than hundreds of pounds of Swiss cheese.
1 likeThis guy gets the death penalty but Samuel Little who officially killed 60 people and confessed to 93, gets a life sentence…
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I could never understand!!!
0 likesPaying for the sins of our fathers….the American Dream
0 likescmon man i thought they were saying “oh my little soulja boy” in the intro
1 likeYou’re videos are amazing holy hell - truly have an interest in what you’re saying in your videos
42 likesGlad youtube Re released this!
0 likesHis last words are so tragic man... war is fucked
1 like"the police is here to help you, not hurt you..." Permanently blinds suspect
4 likesWhy was he even allowed to carry a gun?
0 likesYour videos are usual a piece of art. This one is in my opinion one of the best. I think you are the best YouTube channel out there. Keep up the great work, much respect.
16 likesWar, war never changes👌🏽
0 likesI don’t see any problem with the way the police treated him. That is the way that cold blooded murders should be treated.
0 likesFavorite crime channel JCS .
0 likesDammit! You made my cry a little bit. The Coke song juxtaposition.... good gawd!
0 likesYour videos are masterpieces. Despite the unfortunate subject matter, each is worthy of a documentary award. Thanks, keep up the outstanding work.
4 likesNo wonder YouTube asks you twice if you want to watch this.
0 likesLiteral Vietnam War flashbacks!
They showed police bias. Yes, if he muderd one of my sisters or one of my brothers I’d have a bias too.
0 likesIs it bad that I felt sorry for the dog first?
0 likesBruh it asked twice if I was ok with watching it 💀
1 likeI remember seeing the vid of the officer getting killed without any backstory and didn't realize this video was about the shooter.
112 likesAll makes sense now. I could even tell during the fire fight that he HAD to have had some heavy combat experience. I don't even see that kind of movement from police officers
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Yeah.. two bronze stars for bravery walking front in Nam. Tip of the spear. Just about the last person you want to be in a firefight with.
10 likesDon't forget, in that moment he was prepared to die, and the officer wasn't. That's a huge factor to consider, even bigger than his combat experience IMO.
9 likesCrouch spamming bald wraith
6 likes@SneekyFauker Ferrari peaking
0 likesTbh idc the cops should be aloud to do it to the peice of work
0 likesCross between Tarantino and clinical physiologist
0 likesA big issue with the police force in the USA... they take the death of an officer way too personal. Its childish and dumb.
1 likethis makes me wanna play fallout lmfao
1 likeJeff: *Shows footage of a cop emptying his pistol on a running suspect and a firefight with another cop.*
227 likesalso Jeff: *censors swearing words*
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Blame YouTube
19 likesTo be fair he cut out the worst part of that video.
16 likes@MatthewOfGilead The screaming haunts me to this day.
10 likesYouTube warned me TWICE about this one …..
0 likesshould i be worried…? 😳😥
Why are we not seeing any more JCS content?
2 likesthat was sad af
0 likesThis is just so eff tup. The Vietnamese civillians are the victims. The US soldiers are also victims. The perpetrators are the military industrial complex shareholders.
0 likesFor everyone watching can we please interact with this video and get the algorithm to pick it up because it is absolutely incredible and more people need to be able to experience and appreciate it!
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it's age restricted, so it doesn't show up in people's recommendations so only ppl already on his page will see it
46 likes@Lily D yeah, I been subbed to him for a while and I could've sworn it wasn't listed on his channel!!! just noticed this vid today!
1 likeIt's under strict graphic content restriction, the algorithm doesn't pick up these at all. The only way you can find it is if you search for it specifically or if you're subscribed
2 likesThe algorithm wont pick up this video no matter comments, views, shares, or likes, due to its age restriction
1 likeNow I understand why yt tried to stop me to watch this. Police bias? That's revenge. I mean, he will rot in jail anyway.
0 likesWithout a fucking doubt this had to be the most confusing and fucked up video I have ever seen on YouTube
1 likeThat into gave me anxiety 😅😂
0 likesDidn't that cop killer also kill a 2nd policeman? Or im getting mixed up i thought a moterbike cop too he got ran over
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place” my heart broke when I heard that. This is a man who’s watched so many people he cares about die. He’s not evil. Just broken.
6 likesA part of me admires the officers attempts to not kill the man and another part wonders if he should have given the outcome.
That was so good
0 likesBeautiful beginning
0 likesDamn, Rising Storm 2 was accurate
1 likeThe police force getting flak for beating the shit out of a murderer who killed their colleague.
0 likesIndian police here like 👀
Brilliant video. Amazing work.
5 likesThis is very challenging stuff. I fully admit to understanding and sharing the rage of the detectives interrogating Markeith, and I balked at the audacity, in the wake of his horrible crimes, that he would whine for "medical attention".
But at the same time I've always felt that any culture can be assessed according to how it treats the worst of its prisoners, and so I'm not proud of giving into wrath. Horrible as his crimes are, it requires struggle, but I still, in the end, must feel that the detectives should have composed themselves as proper professionals. It's not simple or black-and-white, but they were wrong to deny Markeith medical attention.
Reprehensible piece of shit that he is.
I'm familiar with the Dinkheller execution, I saw the footage for the first time only recently. I didn't watch it this time. His unrestrained screams of physical pain before the final shot through his eye were haunting enough the first time.
This video brilliantly highlights the impact of documenting these events. Maybe my favorite of any vid "Jim Can't Swim" has produced. Like a legitimate short film all its own.
Bravo sir bravo
0 likesPoor guy.. Yet the let the other guy live...
0 likesBest channel on YouTube
1 likeImagine killing two people and then you get sympathy from the public because the police beat you up. Aww, poor man. :(
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not saying he didn't deserve it, but it's not the job of police to hand out sentences/punishments (excluding fines)/beatings to people
0 likesShame this video doesn’t have more views like the others on this channel. Stuff like this hits real close to home, especially having seen the effects of Vietnam on my own father and the care he was never given. Things like walking in a room and seeing him stare at a turned off TV or him holding a thousand yard stare while sitting at the dinner table. Unfortunate truth was they fought a brutal war and returned to insults, never having the opportunity or ability to get the helped they needed.
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age restrictions.
0 likesAs someone who has seen each video on this channel probably 5 times, I couldn't even bring myself to watch this one more than once. It is just extremely hard-hitting.
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place"
0 likesFuck war. What a pathetic concept.
Very sad
0 likesAre you sure you wanna see this?
0 likesAre you REALLY sure you wanna see it???
Ok....
wow dude just.....wow
0 likesThis channel is addictive. Not just the stories but the break down as well. Spot on!
8 likesDamn YouTube asked twice if i want to watch this and then solider boy plays… this about to be intense
0 likes10:25 jesus christ have mercy
0 likesAs soon as that guy started dancing the cop should have lit em up. If you can’t listen to instructions you’re not only a threat to police, you’re a threat to society.
0 likesIt seems Youtube has put all JCS videos backup. Instead of the guy with floaties on his arms, is a kitty, but its authentic JCS and not knockoff imitators. There is a content warning now popping up before video plays and viewer has to acknowledge awareness of inapropriate and violent themes.
0 likesRip officer Deborah. Served your community like the queen you are. 👑
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That what she gets dont try 2 be a hero
2 likes@BOSSD UP are you serious
2 likes@BOSSD UP isn’t that her job lol
0 likesSmh
0 likesWow. Another case of police brutality. Just like Floyd, what happen to Lloyd is unjust and deserves retaliation. Just remember guys, ACAB, and defund the police. Edit: That guy with the accent deserves to be in prison for like. Aint no way you talk to a brother like that.
0 likesThe officers showed him to much discomfort! What about the 4 people he violently murdered? A lil bit excessive on the beating of him but I honestly don’t give a shit about that after what he did to those people.
0 likesWow, Amazing video
0 likesHow visual evidence (video, in this case) can actually distort the truth resulting in verdicts that were overly reliant on said evidence. Loved everything about this video (and channel), and the same premise could easily be applied to eyewitness testimony.
2 likesWhy is this the LEAST viewed video on this channel by a huge margin??
0 likesWhy is this video limited? I have no intention of sending the photos of my PERSONAL documents to YT just to watch a criminal video. Is it really something soooo scary on this video or what??
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Same!! No it's not any worse than his other vids. It's ridiculous!! Anyway, watch this reaction video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFOfdDkxStM&t=2s I found one that wasn't age restricted and the guy wasn't even talking that much.
0 likesNobody should fight in war 😰
0 likesLove the intros
2 likesIve been binge watching these episodes for an entire week while doing house work.. and now that I’ve watched them all I don’t know what to do with myself. Its like that sad feeling you get after watching the season finale of your favorite tv show. Thank you for such a an amusing and fascinating channel!
7 likesWow just wow 👏
0 likes23:09 Headshot dodge
0 likes4 age restrictions 💀 this gonna be a good one.
0 likesRightfully be sitting on death row
1 likeThis video is extremely well done. Thank you for taking the time and compassion to see and present all sides of both of these stories.
3 likesOne of the detectives interrogating Loyd... must dislike dogs. He refers to Loyd as a dog and says Loyd killed people like they were dogs. Makes a comment about rabid dogs in the street. Why does he hate on dogs
0 likesgoverment sent them to war, but did not intervene in their own wars
1 likeWow amazing eye witness, absolutely incredible.
0 likesjk there’s literally no fucking eye witness wtf lol
These cops interrogating this guy in cuffs can talk all the shit they want when he's cuffed
0 likesoh police, u r de-escalators gone way haywire perpetuating untold amounts of violence, none the less. stop, and admit it. PTSD is entirely preventable.
0 likesBruh, y'all just beat my ass. I don't wanna hear that shit 💀💀
0 likesThe intro giving me the hills have eyes vibes
0 likesOh hey cool! I just remembered my password, well ONE account's password, anyway. I'm still locked out of FB, Gmail, etc., but I feel like I just made a miracle!! 😁
0 likesThey kicked him for revenge, I can't condone their actions but I understand them after hearing what he did to Officer Debra and his ex.
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Legally, it wasn't justified. Morally, he deserved worse.
52 likesif being kicked in the face is a legit punishment for crime they should have the judge and jury members administer it
6 likesI condone their actions! I honestly believe he deserved more than just a kick.
13 likesKaley P.
16 likesBut it could have potentially jeopardized the case because they acted unprofessionally. He deserved a lot worse, but cops aren’t assassins who carry out revenge.
@Yams. He killed a police officer with an eye witness, the case was done at that point.
7 likesNah it was not justified. In this case of course we know what he did and we dont have sympathy obviously, but the thing is they do this to lots of people, most of whom arent even suspects, just because they are power tripping. Thats fucked up
3 likessome of you seriously need to think logically about this. this is different from a group of random citizens beating up this dude. these are the police. these are the people who are meant to b protecting us and enforcing the law. if they can do this to a guy who killed their co-worker, do you not think they'd do this to an old bully from school? an ex wife? a teacher who gave their kid a bad grade?
0 likesthey have a shitload of power and they shouldn't be encouraged to bend the laws and exercise this power however they please. yes, that dude who got blinded was a scumbag. no, if a random man on the street had done that to him i can't say i would have cared. but the police doing it is a completely different issue. it's their job to enforce the law fairly no matter the circumstance. if they can't do that properly then the whole institution collapses
@GabricksLEGO the thing is they all knew what he did, you know hence why they were searching for him? He was no "suspect" he was already guilty and was actively trying to evade police. Yeh they shouldn't of beatbox him but it's not like they just straight up shot him.
0 likeshonestly i dont know why the death penalty is a higher punishment than life in prison. why is being locked up better than instant relieve.
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Because it's in our primal instincts to want to live a life in prison is still better than not living at all .
0 likesI need an update on Moses.
1 likeThat’s just sad
0 likesHe bruh'd the cops man
0 likesMy first love joined the army and ended up being shot in the line of duty in Iraq, he recovered and was never the same. He volunteered for two more tours and came home, honorably discharged at age 30. He ended up dying from suicide…
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I don't really have words for you, except to say I'm so sorry.
6 likes😢
i offer my deepest condolences. i’m truly sorry to hear this and pray that you have found some solace in knowing that your love is no longer suffering. please continue to move forward and enjoy life in his honor, i’m positive it’s what he would’ve wanted. please extend my thanks for his service the next time you visit him. sending you much love and peace at this time.
10 likes@AK Milli ..?
0 likes@AK Milli You should be ashamed of yourself, and learn, and atone.
1 like@AK Milli whatever you think about those soldiers you arent hurting them, your words are hurting a loved one, she wasnt there in Iraq also you dont know if her husband was part of the problem
2 likesGod damnn it I wanted that man dead, they should have fined the cops or something, but in what world does it make sense that a criminal who have committed such crimes does not get medical attention (which he doesn't deserve) and you just give him life@prison instead of death sentence. Like he just killed 3 people. I don't know why they even take a criminal like him to a hospital when they have clear evidence of the crime. Law also works in mysterious ways I guess.
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No, it's not mysterious. The point of this video is that video can influence a case.
0 likesHere is the full shootout video(Warning: It's graphic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc
0 likespowerful intro
0 likescan we be honest with the idea that the american people, the media, the government and the families who received them, had no idea how to treat the men who fought in vietnam?
0 likesThey take one of your own I don’t expect them not to act like that. Guy was a horrible human being. Unloading clips into wife, baby, family, and a poor police officer.
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Still shouldn't use force like that they are acting on the emotions instead of being professional police officers disgusting
0 likesThat’s a bunch of bunch of bull shit he should have got the death penalty
1 likeSuch a sad video
0 likesI got a fucking content warning on the app on this video before it started. That’s never happened before.
0 likesMan this is one of the saddest videos you’ve made. I’ve had all the feels in this one. All those that died, so unnecessary. The PTSD guy I feel so bad for same as the officer. War is fucked. They sent people to war but they don’t look after them when they leave.
3 likesBut also police losing their training as one of their own is lost. Should have been given to another division do proper procedure should have been followed.
Saying that I’m against death penalty anyway.
Why he’s not on ID channel?! 🤷
0 likes“yeah i know i just murdered a cop and a pregnant woman but you weren’t nice to me so i need a reduced sentence” “yeah that makes total sense let’s work a deal out with this guy”
0 likesPOWERFUL.
0 likesMarkeith Lloyd may still be sentenced to death.
0 likesThis kinda channel is the reason why YT shouldn’t die.
2279 likesUpdate: coming back to this comment after 2k+ likes. I think the replies to this comment thread is the reason why YT would die lol.
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No, YT should absolutely die, because YT is an anti consumer corporation that gaslights its entire userbase and treats its creators like crap. What you mean is, the CREATORS on YT shouldn't die.
151 likes@Formula Fanboy ur sad
13 likes@Ben Hardcastle I'm right*
99 likesI don’t know what I’d do if it died.
10 likesIs it sick?
3 likes@NEO I literally did nothing "woke" at all.
59 likesI said that youtube as a corporation treats people like crap which is is a bad thing, and if you don't believe me, try asking one of these creators someday. I don't think you know what "woke" means lmao
@Formula Fanboy wish there’s way to individual creators build their platform
3 likesYouTube ain't never gonna die, sooo all of you are fighting extremely pointlessly
5 likes@Trucker Rawb It will likely take a long time, but if it continues to go on the self destructive path it's been on for the better part of a decade now, it will eventually die out and be replaced by a better competitor.
18 likes@Formula Fanboy Idk why people think "YouTube" or Google or whoever owes anything to the creators. YouTube just created a website, the creators can choose whether or not to post there.
5 likesThat's like expecting Twitter to give something back to people who make good tweets. Makes no sense
@NEO Having a opinion means you're a sad bloke? lol
5 likes@NEO Contrary to surprisingly popular belief, stating facts isn't "woke", fake or otherwise.
6 likesYoutube should and will die, They censor people for political speech that goes against the main stream narrative, there are plenty of other alternative platforms that are coming up.
1 likeRumble is a good example, Odysee is another.
Video hosting websites will not die, but this one should and will.
@Debbie Sunlight Use another website that hosts videos. There are plenty, youtube censors people for political opinions. They should and will die under the weight of their own corruption.
2 likes@NEO I think you misunderstand the meaning of "woke".
2 likesYoutube is a dying platform because the censor political speech that they don't like.
They should and will collapse under the weight of their own corruption.
Who the hell told you YT is dying? It's just changing as all platforms do. The control of advertising revenue should've always been something that all parties had a say in - and thats what we see today with ads that are even unavoidable for premium users like myself. This may sound like a bad thing but I think it actually fosters more useful ads, less tracking, and takes view and subscriber counts, content quality, and other factor driven rewards out of googles (YT's) hands solely. This was inevitable and is required for the long term health of the platform. Also, YT stories, YT shorts, Live Streaming, Sponsoring, Patreon, Merch, and tons of other content driven sub industries are a HUGE driver of what makes this platform unbeatable even in the wake of TikTok.
2 likesYeah, YT ain't going anywhere. Not when you have a product as diversified as YT. Within the Google software ecosystem it's a platform in that of itself and is probably one of the most significant chunks of adrev for goofle there is. It's the de fact official live stream platform for just about anything that matters these days, and I don't plan om stopping using YT Music or YT TV anything soon.
@Formula Fanboy Youtube is by far the best platform for creators. What are you on about?
1 like@Bob Gymlan h A
2 likesthat's a good kneeslapper mate
you clearly don't actually watch a single human youtuber
@Formula Fanboy it should be archived though
1 like@Debbie Sunlight go outside and live life how it was meant to
0 likes@Purro Memes yes, definitely
0 likesThis kinda channel will be why YT dies. Because they demonetize channels like this. With real content.
0 likes@Formula Fanboy Your delusional. *
1 likeYou do realize people have jobs that rely on YouTube staying up right?
@NT Fun fact: calling everyone you disagree with is "delusional" isn't a good way to start a conversation. :)
1 likeThe current YT should either die or get their act together and the same goes for their parent company Google, who are even worse.
Do some actual research into what kind of things both of them have done. I'd highly recommend the "Technocracy" series by TheMysteriousMrEnter. One search away. ^^
If only 10 good channels...
0 likes@Formula Fanboy folio hat lookin
0 likes@NEO "woke" lmao
1 like@Formula Fanboy do you ever get tired of no one liking you?
0 likes@john sefton ah yes. as evident by my 135 likes.
0 likes@Formula Fanboy
0 likesFYI,
Those “likes” don’t mean 💩
When you got that many comments against you SMH
So Climb down from that high horse lil guy
@john sefton very sorry that i struck a nerve. but you know, you could always ignore me. like what most normal people do. i'm not gonna stop you from bootlicking the anticonsumer corporations (: (: (:
1 likeThis kind of channel is the reason YouTube shouldn't remonetize channels like this and similar. Yet keep people like tana and Onision.
2 likes@NEO lol whoaaaaa someone's salty.
1 like@Formula Fanboy this is sad, to watch all these people SO angry and hating for literally no reason. Wtf lol
2 likes@john sefton you guys are insane LOL
1 like@Ben Hardcastle you sound fun to be around.
1 like@Not very cancer patient ikr
2 likes@Formula Fanboy I agree with you. Kind of annoyed at some of the people who rather attack you then present a argument as to why YouTube is good for consumers etc.
1 like@BagOfSouls this was a nice comment to get, thank you. :)
1 like@Formula Fanboy No problem my man. Have a good day/night.
1 like@BagOfSouls aww thank you. :)) made my day
0 likesIts dying?
0 likes@Jason Ahl The whole youtube money thing has always seemed like a grey area to me. People do act as if content creators are employed at a company of sorts, while that's really not the case. They're benefitting from the amount of attention they manage to draw to a specific little nook on this site and the amount of ads they can get people to watch, that is all. In most cases this turns out to be a lot less than minimum wage, but in some rare ones it grows into a multi million dollar thing and people seem to think the odds of this happening are a lot higher than they actually are. Even channels with over a million subs often have a patreon attached to keep a more steady flow of income. You're better off looking for a real job first and then do social media stuff on the side. I think it makes for better content anyway, cause people don't feel pressured into putting stuff out and don't have to follow cookie-cutter format to draw in the largest amount of people. And beside all that it seems large media corporations are migrating to the online space more and more anyway, so at a certain point there may not be anything to gain at all for solo creators. I hope it doesn't get to that though, cause there's a kind of charm to the hastely put together videos that don't have to go through a whole team of people before they get released. It feels more personal and can sometimes be more fun to watch than a video by a centralized media giant. Yet at the same time it also makes for a lot of really subpar videos making it to the front page all the time and it kinda degrades the general culture I feel like. Balance between personal but also high quality well researched and passionate is necessary, though that rarely seems to be struck as OP said channels like these manage to get pretty close
0 likesJason Ahl that’s a shortsighted view of the situation. a company who treats those who bring in their money as badly as yt does, in any other context, would be unacceptable and probably illegal. if there were concrete rules that they applied to anyone then it would be a different story, but as it stands the company feels it has the right to deplatform anyone it chooses without rhyme or reason.
0 likesto your point, they literally do owe something to creators, as without creators the site would simply not function, not bring in revenue, and not even exist. it’s an unsustainable ecosystem to both rely on people and treat them poorly.
Bob Gymlan It has the most potential and probably the largest base of users so if you’re looking at it simply as “what are my options, where can i find an audience” then you’re right. but even something like patreon is better “for creators”, as it’s less restrictive and actually transparent about its regulation. You’re saying “it’s the best platform” because it’s the biggest option. Which actually speaks to its detriments, as gaining a following is either extremely calculated and manipulative or extremely random.
0 likesJust the images with the music are scary as fuck
0 likesGood thing I'm way over 18... And able to click on YouTube's warning twice.
0 likesthose detectives punked him the fuck out.
0 likeswhy did they ask me twice if I wanna see it, its not even that bad
0 likesThis story hit my heart and affected me deeply.
19 likesThank you for your stories.
“bruh, y’all just beat my ass i don’t wanna hear that shit l” LMFAOOOOOOO
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They should've got a few more kicks in
0 likesThe montages at the start of these would have Vince Gilligan proud.
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Peter gould too
0 likeswhats the psychology behind difference in intro and content??
0 likesThis is just sad
0 likesSorry for both
1 likeTf is this?? Dude got lots of chances 😂
0 likes20:56 would of been a black man veteran or not dude would of been shot like a dog . facts
9:16 don’t mind me just picking up notes for my English assignment
0 likesthe police officer was obviously in the wrong here
0 likesThis was resonating to me. I was an Army E.O.D. tech, we were not marines or the tip of the spear, but often times we would work with them and be the butt of the spear to clear the area and make it relatively more safe, unless of course its a convoy path then we take the lead since we have specialized vehicles to take damage from below and metal/signal sensors mounted on front. I respect those marines as much as i respect the comrades who have saved my life several times. They have the biggest balls of anyone i can imagine running into what you KNOW is a minefield. My crew goes into minefields too but almost every time it's when we have enough of a perimeter to take our time and think, not to mention all of the protective gear and tech we have, front line soldiers can't afford to lose mobility by having all of that on them. In Andy B's case it was even worse, because the E.O.D. soldiers back then had little to no gear besides a simple toolkit at times.
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@apo kos I didn't kill anyone, I was in E.O.D. my job was to REMOVE landmines, not plant them. Plenty of the landmines we removed were placed in innocent villages. The civs who came up to me and thanked me for making their farm inhabitable again is enough for me, go ahead and throw all the shade you want.
5 likes@ARCHOCK ENCANTO money is not a justification for war in the sense of the grand scheme of things, i do not put any blame on the solder, in fact i feel sorry for them. Most wars in America (or "conflicts" as they like to call them) are completely unjustified other than the pursuit of greed. Be it weapons of mass destruction or oil its always in the grand majority unjustified.
2 likes@SWIMS vg Grand majority? Do you mean overall?
0 likesAlso, just a side note, I'm not American and have never been there.
And what do you mean by the grand scheme of things? There isn't a well laid out scheme here. It's not like all the wars America goes to is to help whomever or anything else in some sort of intricate mechanism. It's always for dominance and as a by-product, money. And, money is a justification for war... That's why people go to war over it.
Now, if you're talking about if it's a moral justification or not, that's another matter.
@ARCHOCK ENCANTO i mean the moral justification is what i was talking about, i wouldn't exactly call conflict with foreign opposition in the motive of greed as "justified"
0 likesMaybe in the logical sense but not in the sense that I see morally
@SWIMS vg Morality is subjective.
0 likesTo me, going to war for money is justifiable if the ultimate motive of getting that money is overall positive. I'm not one to like America or Americans, but I'd rather that America dominates Iran and China and Russia and others than not.
Much worse situation otherwise.
@RobNobby so you can sleep well, you removed the mines so you are the good guy? it doesnt matter that the forces you serve in created all this death of innocents, destuction pf property, displaced populations of civilians, ruined the lives of millions so you can get a paycheck?
0 likes@apo kos It isn't about the paycheck, what are you doing spreading anti-soldier messages on a Youtube comment section besides spreading one side of another war? Just your own way. Your spreading hate without having the courage to stand in front of it. Bravo for you.
1 like@apo kos Homicide for money is entirely different. Basically a hitman job.
0 likesA soldier isn't a mercenary. He's not paid depending on how many he kills or whatever. Whether he kills or doesn't, he will get paid. Obviously, there's more likelihood for promotions and such, but no one will willingly go to war over the possibility of a promotion. Meaning... Again, soldiers don't get paid for how many people they kill. Well they do... But not American soldiers anyways (except the promotional aspect including badges, medals, rank increases and obviously minor pay increases).
Also, you seem to underestimate non-americans way too much. America basically lost a war against rice farmers in Vietnam. It's not like they start opening fire on unarmed people. Most of the opposition is as prepared as can reasonably be.
And, there is an obligation. I said obligation to the military and their country. That doesn't just mean an obligation to defend or secure the benefits for. It means fighting for both of those entities no matter what. Even if that involves gassing 2 month old infants. There's an oath soldier take along with a ton of atmospheric suggestions which deliberately lock soldiers into the system. Of following orders.
AFTER enlisting in the military, there's not much choice you have. Getting dishonourable discharged means you're probably not going to get a well paid job anywhere in America. Most recruits are in their young twenties.
Basically, there's an obligation for paid (by salary not wage) professionals(if you consider all soldiers to be professionals) to fight and kill on all and any orders from the top. And, after enlisting, it's hardly their choice.
I haven't even covered the propaganda and coercive aspects to getting young recruits yet.
You'd better get this idea out of your head that soldiers are mercenaries. They dont get paid per kill. Also, you'd be surprised to know how little the pay increase is for an ordinary soldier who hasn't gone through any school. And, it's not like they're fighting some 5 year old kid with a watermelon in his hand.
(Well some are fighting that 5 year old kid, but that's not the norm, also that's a part of the obligation IF the order to fire at civilians comes from the top)
Rob, i know you were an "army vet" because your Profile picture is a wolf and your account was created 12+ years ago. anyways, good job dude.
0 likes@RobNobby 1) the messages arent "antisoldier", im prood my ancestors fought the nazis and fascist. 2) "spreading hate without having the courage to stand in front of it", what exactly are you talking about? do you need me to be in front of you to have this discussion? im talking right here standing for what i believe in. 3) "knowing nothing about war", i have served in my country's military 4) "fighting social justice and bad name calling" now you are purposfully being vague and trying to attack the person, instead of giving specific counter arguments to my points. dont they teach you what ad hominem is over there?
0 likes@ARCHOCK ENCANTO you dont want to talk about the difference of professional soldiers and civilians being drafted. when people joined in ww2, they went to fight for a cause, then went back to their normal lives. they didnt choose to make a living out of being paid killers for most of their lives, like professionals do. someone that decides willingly to serve for most of his life in order to make money is essentially a mercenary. study some european renaissance history to see the difference in mercenaries and civilian soldiers, for example the 80 years war.
0 likesfor your other argument, "following orders" is not a legitimate legal excuse anymore, according to the Nuremberg trial, otherwise all those nazis that controled the death camps would be innocent, as they were just "following orders" and "having an obligation to their country". it doesnt work like that, you cant take that to court.
The dude just explained they were EOD. They're the guys who risk their lives to remove the mines that they didn't put there. They're saving people from losing lives and limbs by stepping on them. You should stop and realize that they aren't the ones filled with hate. It's you.
2 likes@Nomad when you try to reply to someone, you need to press the response button so they get a notification.
0 likesit doesnt matter if one soldier removes mines or another places them, they signed up to be professional soldiers, to get paid for bringing their guns to another country and killing civilians. im not going to find out who exactly killed the most innocents, the numbers speak for themselves, he is part of an army of paid killers. you sound like the guys that say "not every nazi comitted war crimes".
@apo kos You know, that thought never really crossed my mind - but tbf I'm sure it's true. Probably not every Nazi committed war crimes. Plus, probably MOST positions in any military are entirely non-combative (logistics and whatnot). Guys like him have probably never fired a shot at someone. And definitely not at the civilians that they are risking their lives to protect by removing harmful devices without any obligation to do so.
1 likeYou seem to have a fairly warped perception of this matter - I hope it's from a place of naivety and not malice. Don't put groups of people in these binary boxes of good and bad. Good, well-meaning people don't make a habit of doing this. I encourage you to try to see things from other perspectives.
@Nomad the "nazi warcrimes" example is to explain exactly my previous point. not everyone in the military (or the police, but that's a different topic) is inherently evil. they may be the best guys, they may do the rare good thing. but the majority are there willingly to kill for money. that is the job of a soldier, and no man with a concience would choose that as a profession, that's why for most of human history, most combatants were drafted ordinary civilians. the nazi example is that we dont know who exactly commited crimes and who didnt, and its pointless to try and find out. their army did those crimes and they were part of it, so they are responsible, even the support/logistics people.
0 likes@apo kos The fact that you mention police shows yours issues with this has far deeper roots. I don't think you know how this stuff works. Just because you belong to a group of people doesn't mean you should be blamed for something you didn't do. This is the stuff that racists do.
1 likeIf I am robbed by a man do I say well all men are robbers? If it's a black person do I say all black people are robbers? If they're from Canada do I say all Canadians are robbers? You'll have nothing but problems in the future with this mindset. You need to really ask yourself critically why you believe the things you do.
@Nomad the examples you mention are people that happened to be born in the same place/race/nationality. a job is something you personally choose as an adult. i cant see how you didnt spot that difference. there are solid facts on the institutional problems that plague certain jobs, and in the primary mondus operandi of said jobs. i will break it down for you in even simpler terms. a soldier's job is to fight and kill, even the support personel are trained in that. a civilian soldiers does that because he was asked to by his state/kingdom etc, he didnt decide to spend his whole life fighting and killing. a professional soldier decides, as an adult, to spend his life doing this "job", fighting and killing in exchange for money. do you get this now or should i write it in even simpler words?
0 likes@apo kos I can see what you're saying. But they barely get any money lol. If they really wanted to kill for money they'd become mercenaries... it's more money, doesn't depend on your country to be in a conflict, and it's WAY less work. What you're saying may be true of some of the people. But treating that as the standard and treating everyone as guilty before proven innocent just shows a disconnect from reality.
1 like@Nomad is the amount of money really a serious argument to consider? and people cant become mercenaries (at least in the western world) without prior military experience, so that's also a weak argument.
0 likesim treating everyone as guilty when their army commits war crimes, there is no point in trying to figure out who exactly did what, its the same thing with the nazis in ww2. not everyone did the same things, but they were, by choice, part of an army that willfully killed innocents. and this is even worse for the american military because these people arent drafted, they choose to be part of that army and kill people. even those that dont pull the trigger themselves, they accept this reality as something they want to be a part of
@apo kos "is the amount of money really a serious argument to consider?"
1 likeWell when you said their motive was greed to kill for money, yes. I can see you're not here to converse and share ideas but to spout your own hateful and misguided conclusions and then you're confused as to why people don't want to agree with you or to be like you.
@Nomad that's funny, you're saying im not here to converse when i've directly answered you arguments, used specific counter points and examples, and followed the proper conduct in a discussion. is it that you are running out of arguments? why dont you try to give direct counterarguments to those i present, instead of making broad claims and assumptions? also, you should notice, i've never commented on your personality, as you repeatedly do. this is ill mannered and to be avoided in a civilized conversation.
0 likesto your argument, any amount of money enough to keep you out of poverty is a good incentive to take a job. what matters is what job people choose to do. personally, i wouldnt willingly choose to be a full-time murderer, there are many decent jobs with equal or better pay that you dont have to invade people's countries.
@apo kos Specific? Civilized? Can only assume you're trolling my dude based on all your comments here
1 like@Nomad i see, you grew tired and dont want to think of any counterarguments, so you try to just break up the conversation. you could just have said nothing. if you want to at least try and get better at this in the future, read on the correct rules of discussion and the proper ettiquete, this was embarassing.
0 likesYouTube asked me twice if I want to watch this, so I'll leave it for the morning.
1 likeLook how differently they treat a white suspect, and it costs them everytime.
1 likeat 8:19
0 likesWhat a weird way to reload
No one gets away with killing a cop... Not even a veteran.
0 likesVery sad.
0 likesAbout the Veteran, I hope the family did take the dog. And I am sad for the whole thing. Poor family.
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Andrew’s dog died while his owner’s on death row.
0 likes@Như Thảo I see.... 😢
0 likesBut was he abbandoned or he died while he was with the Vetaran family?
@frabra88 He was living in the family’s care when he died.
1 like@Như Thảo Thank you so much for the info!
0 likesWhat the hell, Yt didn ask me nothing to watch this video besides the visit by someone In a black suit that took my blood.
1 likeUff then cops have 100% of their frontal lobe working better than Einstein bc I’ll turn him to ground beef and do my time happily ever after 🤷🏻♀️😂
0 likesHis dad looks like Al Bundy
0 likesHow did I know they’d try to make this a race thing.. Lmao this world is such a joke bro.
0 likesThat intro tho
0 likesThis intro is the fucking hardest intro to a utube video I may have ever seen
0 likesIt's weird seeing people say "treat veterans better" and "the guy that killed his pregnant girlfriend deserved it". Those thoughts are not unjustified, but that isn't the point of the video.
536 likesThe point made by showing both of these cases is that emotion like the above must not play a factor in justice or it can prevent a just outcome.
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Yes! I’d never factored in how much of a role video cam footage plays in persuading a jury to be for or against a defendant, like you said it all stems from emotion and what the particular footage is exhibiting
33 likesThe first guy it could be argued ended up shooting the cop due to his PTSD, the second I would consider worse yet he got a lesser sentence, all due to emotion wrapped up in the video camera footage. Although I will say, the ex-vet it would seem by his final words was relieved. The trauma I can only imagine.
But yes, an interesting point I hadn’t considered and appears went amiss in the comment section
@Conroyrofl your absolutely right
3 likesAbsolutely.
2 likesblack privilege.
3 likes@Calypso Handjack What is that in reference to? Was it a reply to the wrong comment, maybe?
12 likesThat's a very astute observation & interesting when you consider the video he did on Cassie, where her council expressly sought for the jury not to engage their emotional bias when they deliberated & ended up giving her the not guilty verdict virtually everyone else unanimously disagreed with.
1 likeYes , but that sud ALSO be the point of the video ...it is not " WEIRD" like u say for some reason... .and saying that is COMPLETELY right. ......so there u HV it
1 like@smith lovy Black vet? Literally just an example when cam footage helps someone to avoid a death sentence.
7 likesAn important comment for sure. While I can appreciate the willingness of people to share experiences and spark a conversation about the topics mentioned here, the brilliancy of the video and it's core message is easily lost.
1 like@AMP because he said to the jury not to engage with their emotions, but he also played with the jury's emotions leading to her not being guilty.
1 likeYeah. Here I am in terror as I think about how unpredictable a jury could be in their ability to judge a case. This was a scary video for an American like me
1 likeVery good point. Thank you for mentioning it.
0 likesWe know thats the point of the video to make and it already did...this is the comment section where we can comment on sections of the video. Theres no rules on the section on what we xan express. The video already explained itself perfectly unless we have questions.
0 likesMarkieth killed one of their own, he shot her body as she was laying dead on the ground ... he didn’t shoot her to harm her so he could escape. The pain he went through was nothing compared to what that policewoman endured.
2 likesAnd yet the law chooses the jury system that makes people be judged on emotions rather than cold, hard scientific facts.
0 likes5:30 His dad is Al Bundy?
0 likesso... this is real life rambo?
0 likesWe don’t treat our veterans as well as we should. 😔🇺🇸
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Just look at veteran cemetery in US and compared that to European one.
0 likes'dog still by his side'.... shoutout to dogs man!
1 likeWhen Jim Can't Swim says "things were beginning to look positive" you know shits gonna go south.
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That sentence is begging to continue with "BUT...."
0 likesIt's like when you are playing DOOM and the room your are in is loaded with health and ammo....you know what's around the corner :O
1 likeHey your vids are back!🤗
0 likesTragic
0 likesYou know shits gonna be real and serious when you gotta click the box for adult content on YouTube...
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I clicked it like 7 times
0 likesShit must be real
Poor bastard... Obviously I feel terrible for the officer, but a PTSD episode is not 1st degree murder.
0 likesThe quality you present these videos with is not only astonishing but captivating beyond imagine. Thank you for working so hard on these. I terrifyingly look forward to watching more of these. It’s scary watching. Thank you for including the testimony’s of the guilty. I don’t know how to find them and it would be scary watching them without your narration. The psychological analysis on top of the testimony makes these beyond gold.
4 likeswhen your least popular video is almost 2M views. your winnin
0 likesIt’s fucked that people were drafted to be sacrificed for this meaningless war. The Americans achieved nothing and all of the fighting was in vain. To the Vietnamese, this was a war of independence from their colonial oppressors and their allies.
0 likesWhat a bruh moment
0 likesdamn Vietnam was really fucked up
1 likeThat has got to be one of the greatest intros I've seen, it literally feels like watching a Scorsese classic.
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scared the hell out of me.
7 likesGLEESH TV I believe so.
4 likesGLEESH TV yeah
1 likeWhich movie did he make that took place in Vietnam, Mr.Filmfanatic 🤣
0 likes@Ghaffar_KH I've seen it and The Irishman doesn't count as a classic, it came out last year 🤣
0 likes@Ghaffar_KH and im sure Scorsese isn't the only director that uses music that is relevant to the time period of the movie
0 likesThe ending made me cry
1 likeFeel bad for Andrew what he did was horrible but I don’t think he was in the right state of mind at the moment that it happened
0 likesI’d rather have people get the life sentence I don’t know why people want them to be on death row I’d rather have them rot in a jail cell death just ends every thing too soon
0 likesgod you're good
0 likesThey let that last guy get far enough to shoot an officer? Interesting.
0 likesCANT WAIT FOR A GABBY PETITO VIDEO!!!!
0 likesIt seemed like Andy was a kool ass olhead 😎without the killin ofcourse🤦♀️ I could see me chillin wit Andy listening to all his NAM stories grooving to Jimmy hendrix puffin on a fat doobie 😏 they trashed Markeith n they was ready n case he popped off chile thats y the door was open when he was getting interrogated🧐 they NEVER leave that door open weather they n there wit u or not u could be there as a witness that door gonna be closed honey🤣🤣🤣
0 likesOnly 5 mins in he's a hero
0 likes30 seconds later ohhh ohhh he be crayzeeee
Is this video glitchy for anyone else?
1 likeEdit: the video sometimes includes or excludes the Markeith Lloyd part. The time length shows 10 min. or 20 min.
One of the best YouTube channels I have ever seen on this website. I am of course saddened by the small amount of videos that are posted so far but I am beyond excited for what’s to come. JCS you deserve every single one of these tens of millions of views. I hope this success is aiding your life in a positive way. You deserve it these videos are masterpieces.
6 likesThis channel is fucking dope
0 likesI thought this was the case of Andy B so why is the so much of Markeith in here?
0 likesDid I just watch a different video to everyone else? Didn't see anything about a female police officer dying, but I'm reading it in the comments
1 likeEpic footage
0 likesThe police man screaming is indeed terrifying to listen and to watch, no wonder this video has two warnings.
60 likesPoor dog
0 likeswhat happened to the dog, moses?
0 likes3:35
0 likeshey, im a corpsman
lol
Is this not heavily edited from its original version?
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Yeah this is only half of the video I think
0 likes@Joey wayback machine shows it was originally 25:08.
0 likesWhat a depressing life and death. War is hell.
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Life after war is hell
10 likesYet people idolize violence and death.
7 likes@informitas 0 if it is for your country,and your values and under NO circumstances for oil,money,influence,i guess that people are ready to like it.We love loving false values so much,that we could die for them.Yes,people have died for oil,believing that they defend their country half a world away from it.
1 likeYea , but the for victims. Not the murderers.
0 likesWhy is this your least viewed ep?
1 likeThat mexican cop sounds super tough.
0 likesWhere the fuck is the full video
5 likesThese intros just hit different
0 likesThe guy that killed his girl with their child in her belly, he needed to go, that's a death-penalty case if I've ever seen one. However, I've seen the full video towards the end of this vid. I've seen many, many awful videos. But that one.. that particular one haunts me more than any. And any of y'all that decide you're going to go look it up would be wise to heed JCS's warning. I jerked my headphones out as he ran toward the cruiser, unsure of when JCS would cut the video. I should've known better, I should've known he wouldn't play it to that point, but the thought that there was even a 1% chance was enough to rip the headphones out. Everything involved in that incident is just tragic, all the way around. We need to take better care of our veterans. I am an Army veteran. And fortunately I can say I have been well taken care of, but others haven't been so lucky. I always enjoy JCS videos, but this one was especially powerful.
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I did the same. I literally switched tabs and didn't come back for a few minutes because I just didn't want to see that video again.
19 likesDeath advocates seem to forget that is the easy way out. A life sentence is much more harsh, and makes these horrible people continue to work for society. Death penalty is never a good option when we already have the highest incarceration rate of any country.
14 likes@air breather A life sentencing without parole is not intended to be educative or productive for society, neither is it a way of punishment since theoretically jail is not for that. When certain individuals are no longer socially functional with no signs of regret and keeping them alive is not making up from any resources being expend keeping that up I see no reason on extending their lives, just as they made sure to not keep others alive too when they clearly had an option to do so.
9 likes@air breather Just extending my opinion based on yours, death penalty is a VERY serious decision, I agree that it should not be normalized, but there are some moral guides that just outrule any religious or social morally rights concepts. Like murdering a cop while she's on the ground asking for help.
3 likesThe worst video I've ever watched is one that shows a cartel of some kind killing a police officer in front of his son, then cutting the son open before ripping his heart out with their bare hands as he is still alive.
1 like@George Jnr yeah man, like I said I've watched a lot of really nasty, disturbing videos and I think I know which one you're talking about (just from the description, I didn't end up watching it). There's a lot of cartel videos I refuse to watch because the brutality and evilness of it is just too much for me. Personally, I don't enjoy watching fucked up videos of humans doing terrible things to other humans but I force myself to watch them. Reason being, disagree with me if you like, we're all entitled to our own opinions and I respect that, I see the way things are going in this country. People don't realize how precarious our civility is. How thin the veneer really is and how quickly everything that we take for granted can come crumbling down around us. The worst humanity has to offer can become commonplace by starting with a relatively small crack of the glass that is our civilized society, and then the crack spiderwebs and the whole thing comes crashing down. So I watch horrible videos for the sole, intentional purpose of desensitizing me so that, should societal collapse happen, I'm better able to deal with what we will see and keep my head on straight. Things are getting spicy out there, my friends, be prepared, just in case.
11 likes@Lucyfur lol
0 likes@Matheus Salabert Agreed
0 likes@Frizzurd yeah bro, there's some really sick shit out there, no doubt.
0 likesMatheus Salabert You can’t make the “resources” argument in support of the death penalty, because the death penalty costs more than just imprisoning someone for the rest of their life. Your entire argument is one against the death penalty, but due to a misconception you think it supports it.
1 like@George Jnr no way....
0 likesACAB
0 likes@mechveteran01 I’ve been an active member of best gore for a while now. When you first start watching shock videos and gore, it is shocking. However, it helped me understand reality and all of the consequences life can have.
4 likesWhen people get their heads chopped off slowly with a knife and you can hear the moment their breath comes through the hole in their throat. That sound haunts me. I don’t want to hear that officer’s death cries 😞
2 likes@mechveteran01 did you see the video of a guy getting hit by a train?????? he spun like 5 times
0 likes@PhusionV 100% my friend
0 likes@Mck 94 I'm legitimately surprised youtube allowed it on their platform. You ain't lying though.
0 likes@D W I haven't seen that one. The ones I've seen just result in basically just an explosion of flesh.
0 likes@George Jnr whats it called
0 likeshow do I find it ....thanks
0 likes@rain tree BG
0 likes@air breather It depends. Usually the prisoner has to wait for years or even decades for his execution. It's really scary to know you're going to be executed but cannot do nothing about it. In a way, it can be more terrifying than living your whole life in a "comfy" prison.
1 like@SuperAvocado Trust me, it isn't. The first 2-4 years is 90% thoughts of suicide and 10% thoughts of avoiding getting taken advantage of. It is not cozy by any means. You sleep with bright lights on in a crowded space. People are shouting 24/7 and everyone is looking for a way to take advantage of you. You work for cents an hour and pay 3x the price for junk food to survive. It is an inhumane place where death is more desirable.
0 likesI also ripped my headphones out just in case that scream was there. will never forget that video
1 like@1993 damn, it's been taken down.
0 likesPoor guy did not deserve that.
1 likeGot asked twice if I wanted to view this lol
0 likesWow what a fucked up trip this video was. Gotdamn.
0 likesDope intro
0 likes22:54 - Shit, the way he peeked out is outright scary. Just shows how focused and experienced he is at what he is doing.
46 likesThese are better than Dateline and 48 HRS combined.
0 likesabsolute banger of a song at the start!!!
1 likeWhat an intro
0 likesevery SINGLE person in this video is a victim
0 likesi know i've already left a comment of my own expressing the emotions that i felt after having sought out and absorbed the entirety of the incident, but to anyone else who sees this, please heed JCS's warning pertaining to the subject matter of the full dashcam video. 'vicarious trauma' is a very real thing, especially as we now have the ability to document, in incredibly high definition, some very graphic imagery.
57 likesyou may think it absurd that watching a mere video can induce feelings of anxiety, stress, or even depression and PTSD responses, but they can. if you already have these conditions, nonfictional videos that are graphic or violent can worsen your symptoms or perhaps even trigger trauma responses of your own.
in the video, you do not see the officer die.
but you hear him.
and i dont know what you might be imagining his final moments sound like, but i will disclose this much:
hearing a man die hits a lot different when it's real. it's not like the movies or the video games you might be accustomed to. JCS was correct in his warning here. it is extremely difficult to listen to his pain as he parts the mortal plane. i am doing my best to word it as vaguely and as respectfully as possible, but even if i were to go in to more descriptive detail, it would not be able to properly convey the intensity of the audio.
i consider myself thick skinned, but i do have a lot of empathy and trauma of my own. i'm relatively well adjusted to it. some may say i am a bit jaded to it, i'm certainly not immune to an instance of private panic or despair, but i function pretty well, save for the despondence and overall lack of motivation that comes with the package deal of depression (terminal). i am especially susceptible to shock material, especially in extremely specific circumstances.
i'm fine when i see an image of a dead body. i partake in "vulture culture" in real life as a hobby, which is the ethical collection of animal parts after they have died in the wild due to natural causes, predation by other animals, or any other circumstances wherein a human did not directly or intentionally cause the end of an animal. i've smelled death, i've cleaned the decay off of bones. i know what it looks like. andsmells like, and FEELS like.
but its not the same as hearing a man's life escape his body.
i am not telling you that you should not seek this video out. i am merely trying to fill you in, if you see this somehow and have read this brick of text, that there is a lot more weight than you may be prepared for. begin your search armed with the knowledge that what you will see is not easily digestable to even the well adjusted, and if you are especially vulnerable, please take care of yourself and do whatever it is you need to to prevent yourself from going in to a spiral.
rest peacefully, andy and kyle. neither of you deserved the hand fate dealt you.
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Kigut this is so well written...
1 like@HanaMiko too well written. You could have done something more productive in that 20 minutes.
3 likes@S Shlept i apologize for the length. after i had watched the video of that officer's death i had been shocked to the point of a traumatic response. i felt the need to describe my process in detail to share with any it may concern as i processed my mental distress.
11 likesi still hear it in my head, even a few days after the fact. it really stuck with me, and it might continue to stick with me for awhile longer.
@Kigut I know...
1 likeI watched it a year or two ago, and I'm still trying to forget it.
I do feel a little better knowing that he felt bad about it.
I still remember the comments on that video, which were just as vulgar, and it only fueled my anger for that man, veteran or not.
Kigut I appreciate the effort and time you put in to write and share your thoughts. My heart is so so heavy after watching this JCS video and reading your comment.
3 likesi'm not upset with andy. he was suffering inside and the whole incident was unfortunate. they were both in the wrong place at the wrong time.
4 likesandy was failed by his country and that officer didnt know what he was getting in to, what he had gone through.
its deeply tragic both ways.
Thanks for pointing this out. I skipped that part of the video. Here be dragons.
0 likesTrue, I looked it up out of morbid curiosity and because I thought the warnings were over the top, but that really was so fucked up to hear, I wish I could forget it. RIP Kyle.
2 likesHi from a fellow vulture🖤 this was so well written and I couldn’t agree more I wasn’t prepared to hear his last few moments, it was awful and a sound I may never forget. It’s much different when it’s real, and especially when it’s someone who truly didn’t wish to harm another.
1 likeI’m a crim major in college. Thinking about joining law enforcement. We watched that entire video in class, with audio, in a dark room at around 9 pm. Stonefaced the rest of class. Went out to my car to drive back home, got in, and broke down sobbing for what felt like hours. I can not describe or understand how deeply I was affected by that officer’s last moments. I am not the kind of person to cry, and often find morbid things interesting. But that man’s screams. They will never leave me.
3 likesThank you. This is so incredibly important and needs to be discussed more in general. This past summer and from then on we have been seeing a lot more real violense almost livestreamed to us. It's not something we are used to, nor is it something we can escape effecting us deeply.
3 likesYeah I saw the video years ago and thought it was one of the most intense things I'd ever seen. I didnt know this documentary was about the shooter until a while in... it will stay with you if you watch it.. its on YouTube
0 likesgood call writing this down, people with PTSD or anyother disorde related to trauma will expreince trauma through videos (i dont have any serious disorders but just search it out you might find something on this)
0 likesI've watched the full video a long time ago and I would not recommend watching it. There is nothing positive to gain from these kind of videos tbh and I think I'd be better off not knowing what kind of audio follows.
0 likesI should have heeded Youtube's warning. This fucked me up.
0 likesSgt. Lincoln Osiris @ 3:08 😂
0 likes13:24 I didnt see anything
0 likes5:30 mark, that's Al Bundy!
0 likesI've been binge watching this channel the whole day. However, this video has touched on different levels of crime and how the penal system in a need of overhaul. Furthermore, it poignantly touching up on the professional behaviour of law enforcements, it can be to the detriment of holding people accountable and a disservice to the premise of justice.
7 likesIts a masterclass in criminal psychology and it should be included in the training of these detectives and police officers.
Well shit he got his eardrum blown out from a bomb no wonder he yelled at people rt next to him.
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No, that's not Andy B. The reason he yelled at people is because in Vietnam War people need to yelled for indirect communication and let just said that stuff still stuck in Andrew mind's
0 likesi just like to listen to the shirelles although i forgot that was my mothers era and i aint american still the song sounds nice
0 likesBest one
0 likesWhy tf Netflix not signed this guy
0 likesI shed tears at his final words. Many of us will never know the selfless love that drove this man to endure absolute terror and loss for his brothers. A love so great that it broke him.
10 likesNo one does it like JCS!
0 likesIdk how many rape/murder videos I have watched with no disclaimers:
1 likeThis one:
"YoUtuBE hAS deEMeD tHIs ConTENt inAPProPriAtE"
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There were Far too few trans kids included for youtubes liking
0 likesjust say no to war
0 likesShit I got THREE inappropriate content buttons to confirm I wanna watch??
0 likesEdit: This story reminds me of Rambo.
My dad was in Vietnam. He almost choked me out one day when I scared him from behind. Love my daddy RIP.
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daddy issues
3 likesWhy would you scare your veteran dad from behind
5 likes@Amanda Melo I was like six years old.
37 likes@Kim W may he rest in peace
0 likes@Umbamba Timbuktu quit using the word when you don't even know the definition
6 likes@Umbamba Timbuktu what is being kind of baset. Like Baset hounds???
2 likesSo we(America) can send our soldiers out to war with no problem. But once they’re home we shut them out. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.how about we have better help for anybody in the armed forces coming back from a deployment. It’s not easy trust me. I’m one of those soldiers who found it hard when I came back
0 likesI'm sorry but just because you are a veteran, that doesn't mean you are some kind of incredible hero that should get a free pass for horrific things that you do.
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no one said that. Justice was served.
0 likesI see all these people feeling bad for Andrew. I can't feel any sympathy for him. He murdered a police officer in cold blood, for absolutely no reason. He got what he deserved, and that child killing pos didn't get enough.
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I guess people feel bad for him because he was a soldier. But that's no excuse. Honestly, the military worship in this country is fucking ridiculous. Especially in regards to Vietnam, which was a completely pointless war.
0 likes20:50 sir come here sir come here. Approaches them sir get back!!
0 likesShe (pregnant lady) said all that shit in the car facetiously ..her intuition was screaming at her and she didn’t listen. Oh my god.,
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Honestly it low-key seemed like a cry for help
237 likes😢
13 likesPay attention to her eyes and the looks she gives him and the camera. She was asking for help while trying to make it seem light hearted. Very common thing to see now with the age of live broadcasting in cases of domestic abuse.
213 likesYeah that was very sad. It really did look like she was trying to put across an sos without it being too obvious to him but it unfortunately didn't work & he murdered her pretty soon after. Maybe they didn't even have time to get things together to get her out of there. 😥
69 likes:(
4 likesWomen have great intuition and we need to learn how to better utilize it
48 likes@quicksilver b she lived with her parents, she thought she was safe there.
6 likes@WEME we get told we're being over dramatic, or silly or that we need to give men the benefit of the doubt all the time.
39 likes@princesstamika Yeah, but also there is a personal responsibility, you choose your own partner. I've seen too many bright young woman fall for the 'bad boy' (I can change him!) and end up suffering the consequences.
24 likes@princesstamika You'd think your intuition would tell you to ignore that.
7 likes@Rob Robberson perhaps appealing to someone's emotions and not pissing them off is another form of survival for people who somehow had to survive the middle ages, eh?
9 likesHer poor children
9 likes@Leilani Z Interesting. Tell me more.
0 likes@princesstamika And do you always do what you're told? You're acting like the stereotype says you should act.
2 likesVictim blaming?
9 likes@princesstamika if it comes to your own personal safety, you got all the right in the world to doubt. Sadly a lot of victims of domestic abuse stay at least some time with the abuser after the first abuse took place.
5 likesshe looked stuck, like a part of her was making it a joke and the other part of her seemed so upset that that was her reality, she looked at him like she loves him but is also so afraid of him
8 likes@Rob Robberson It doesn't matter. The majority of women won't take accountability for their bad choices.
4 likesdubbed anime is gay jj I think lo
0 likes@Andreas Schmitt Everyone seems to be completely ignoring the nuance behind such a scenario. Judging from what was established in the Christy Mack case, it's possible the woman may have simply been unable to escape her abuser, at that point. Perhaps she hoped that her companionship might have been enough to calm his abusive urges, and that trying to escape would have blown up in her face. How do you run from a mine you stepped on but somehow hasn't detonated?
9 likesI know!!!!!!!!! That was so crazy
0 likesYou can see she throws a sneak peek at him too, indicating that she's checking for his attention on the subject. 10:30 That she has to check again at 10:38 indicates that no he's infact not paying attention. Judging by the speeding and how uncomfortably silent he got after she mentioned killing, he's trying to end this situation as quickly as possible. This whole clip's got red flags all over it but honestly who expects a gun?
2 likeshe has no respect for women much less black women. It is gross.
2 likesAll the MRAs and JBP fanboys are out on this thread. So insightful!! Dit moi! Tell us more!
1 likeI took it that she was terrified and she was holding it together, calmly leaving evidence (or if it was a live broadcast, hoping someone would call police on her behalf for help.)
3 likesShe knew it was coming. Like a victim of domestic abuse.
Jokes aren’t usually jokes.
2 likesIt was definitely chilling and heartbreaking to watch. I don’t feel sorry for the dude that got his ass kicked. Piece of garbage.
3 likes#OUTLANDISH educate yourself on abusive relationships before saying such inane shit. Abuse is cyclical and very traumatic. Most people come from abusive relationships (romantic or platonic) with ptsd. It’s never as simple as “oh she just likes abusive men.” It’s never that simple.
8 likes@Jennifer Bueller It's less to do with low self esteem than it is they are dating out of their league. They settle for garbage that is more attractive than them. That's also how they get into the "fix him" trap. They think they are getting a more attractive male at a discount. They have trouble leaving the relationship because they are correct, they can't get another guy at that attractiveness level. They only leave once they level honestly with themselves and date someone who is more on the same level as they are.
1 like@Jennifer Bueller the fix it mentality,, is sad and dangerous,,, my mum was bullying me to stay with very erratic, angry controlling man from an army background so I don't stay single,, she didn't care that man made me feel scared,, she would just look at me while am struggling... No kindness or compassion in her eyes she didn't try to help I was supposed to fix him make it work.. He is your last chance that's what she kept repeating.
1 likeAbsolutely, when people "joke" like this sometimes it's the only chance you'll get to save them. Keep your ears listening for stuff like this. Someone who married into my family was abusive toward a sibling of mine and change only happened when they tried to hurt my Mom one time when she was visiting, I don't even remember what it was about, I think she did laundry and folded it not according to their preference so they hurled a heavy fan right at her. This stuff goes on and you never know it happens, you've gotta grab onto any hint or clue and investigate before it's too late!
0 likesMargie Giovanna she KNEW...chills. That’s so crazy.
1 likeprincesstamika I’ve watched enough crime documentaries to know we should never DO THAT. Ever. When something says run, you run.
1 likeJennifer Bueller also abusive men front a lot at the beginning and once they know they have you and you aren’t going anywhere they change into monsters.
0 likescool cat wow I’m so sorry,. Glad you were smarter. Sometimes mothers are very misguided. Yeah you can’t change anyone.
0 likes@Three Thrushes So you're saying women have to take 'personal responsibility' for men's bad decisions and lack of personal responsibility.
0 likes@WEME lol ok
0 likes@Sadie Hazel you are so insightful. Tell us more doctor.
0 likesAmanda Griffin hit a nerve? Your liked videos indicate you’re an IDW acolyte...
0 likes@Sadie Hazel also, I wouldn't really go by people's "liked" video history since I'm sure I'm not the only person who is a premium YT subscriber and shares their account with my husband and 2 kids. Did you also think that I was big into minecraft or creepypasta? Funny, you didn't mention those from my search history. Just a note of advice: if you are so anti JBP and MRAs, you would probably benefit from maybe watching just one or two of their videos from their perspective just to see what their ACTUAL views are and not what you have been told that they are. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I like to know what both sides of an argument are. I also watch breadtubers and shit like that. Its called being informed. But you just pick and chose what u wanted to find that supported your narrative. That sounds a lot like what the MSM does. Weird.
0 likesGod bless america (/s)
0 likesDid they cut out like half the video or is this another Mendela effect?
1 like13:24 looks like zombies!
0 likesthe opener is wonderful.
0 likesEverything touched by the Vietnam conflict is just tragic
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STAAAAARS. RAAAAAWR
2 likesWorse still, the government knew the war was a lost cause for several years but continued sending men out there, just to save face.
0 likesBro this video just came outta nowhere
0 likesSaddest video on this channel
0 likesI can't imagine what prevented the cop from shooting Andrew. Amazing.
0 likesI think the case with this Markeath guy took up too much of this video. He could have his whole own video, so I didn't really see the connection with the Andy B case? It felt like I didn't understand this video properly, can anyone be so kind and tell me why the other guy had almost half the attention in this video? English isn't my main language so maybe I missed some important information.
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point of this video is how video is powerful. the line at 20:14 before the footage of officer dinkheller's death illustrates that. Brennan's inhumane execution of dinkheller doomed him. Markeith's inhuman treatment by the officers spared him.
1 likeThis was a really good analysis. I remember first seeing that dashcam footage and feeling the same seething anger and contempt for Brennan as the jury must have felt. It surely was not the first time something so terrible has happened, but it might well be the first time there was evidence sufficient enough to provoke the empathy the situation deserved. I only wonder why I haven't felt the same way about any of the other terrible crimes I'm aware of.
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It was the screams. I've never heard anything like them. I watched the original video years ago and they still stick with me.
0 likesSo what happen to his dog moses?
0 likeschanged my birth date just to watch this
0 likesI have no idea what this is going to be about but that intro is sad as fuck damnit. It's pissin me off ya feel.
0 likesNo problem with that broken zogbot catching a needle. Noone forced him on that 2nd tour
0 likesThat ex soldier's movements... so surreal to watch. Imagine having to teach yourself to walk through gunfire shooting like that with no regard for getting hit. Such a sad episode.
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And than the fact that he wantet to get shot but than the ptsd takes over his Depression and he snaps back to Vietnam and the policemen didnt want to hurt anybody
11 likesI didnt watch the raw video so i cant say for certain. But the ex soldier might have counted shots or just knew that the officer was reloading his gun at that moment. In such situation he's completely safe to push into a more advantageous position to have a clear shot. He had a rifle which im guessing has around 30 shots in the mag, the standard issue guns police officers carried back then had 10-15 shots, officer would have ran out of bullets before him for sure.
12 likes@Vasilije Zivkovic that’s exactly what happened.
3 likesWar………….. war never changes ….
0 likesOh my handcuffs are hurting...
0 likesDon't think I've ever seen this one...
0 likesWhat was the point of the other case in the middle of this video wtf
1 likeIm glad Andy is in a better place now. Above the trauma, conflict, lies and anger we have.
13 likesLaugh out loud, if he was black the officer would have shot him dead the second he started dancing
0 likesWe need new videos man
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Sadly, JCS announced a few weeks he won’t be posting any new videos on YT. This is due to YouTube unfairly censoring and removing some of his videos for no valid reason. Apparently, you can find more JCS videos on other platforms if you’re interested.
0 likes@M’n’ Conquer Guyss he has new channel: J C S, the profpic is cat. He just uploaded new short videos about Eipstein just few days ago.
0 likes:'(
1 likeI just watched this in full on Patron. Im soo late
0 likesWhile the murders of innocent civilians is never a good thing, I do feel a sort of sadness for a man thrown into the front lines of war and returned into the tumbling hell of society without any sort of proper re-introduction or support.
101 likesThank you, soldiers, for all you do for this country, and may you never go through this nightmare.
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*for all you do for the top 0.01% richest people in the world
0 likesBut what about his doggo
0 likesThe music and bombs what a combo
0 likesI would have kicked him as well
0 likes21:03 I guess he just liked the Beatles-
0 likesThe end of this and the closing montage brought tears. So sad that we continue to wreak havoc on the world and innocent lives - our own and otherwise.
5 likesThis one hurt
0 likesDeserves this
0 likesSorry, around the 10:00 mark you attempted to use Social Learning Theory by Bandura as an argument that video increases aggression and this isn’t evidence-based, in fact refuted. Let’s get away from the silly argument decades old, otherwise MILLIONS of people would be violent
0 likesI thin k 20+ years prison is worse than death sentence. death row is a easy way out
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Funny thing I guess.. I watched the clip of the police officer getting shot by Andy B years ago. And then I had a completely different perception of what happened, had no idea he had such severe PTSD and was a Combat Vet. After getting the full context my perception completely changed. When I first saw that I was just disgusted by what happened in the video but now I totally understand how and why. What always was odd to me was how the police officer acted. He could have controlled that situation were he better trained and none of that needed to happen, Looked to me like he was on the opposite side of the car and not having the suspect in full view. And it's a hell of a thing to say but he should have shot him but i understand why he didn't, who wants to shoot someone in the head? Were he on the other side of his police car he could have shot a non fatal shot instead..
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same opinion, i had seen that video years ago and never knew the backstory to andy
1 liketo a degree i dont even thing the officer was poorly trained; he was just trying too hard to spare andy his life. he didnt want to have to kill, but that exact feeling caused himself getting killed. its really horrifying.
1 like@gamified He was poorly trained, it is very obvious from the footage. Not just because he didn't kill, but because he was unable to prevent the situation from tuening violent in the first place. He had no idea what to do when someone doesn't cooperate, or how to de-escalate a situation where the other person is getting agitated, and he outright panics and resorts to just yelling the same phrase over and over when the man showed he was armed, pointing the gun at him but not shooting.
2 likesNone of these skills come natural, it has to be taught, but unfortunately many young officers are not taught these things and as a result the end up in violent situations that could've been avoided
Jesus fucking Christ man this is a powerhouse short documentary
0 likesI never knew this is where JPEGMAFIA got the sample for one of his songs from
0 likesWas anyone else terrified that something bad was going to happen to Moses?
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Moses was in the care of Andrew’s family after he put to death and later died.
0 likesYou can't even share this video. Crazy
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.”
311 likesAs with the most of the vets from vietnam, they never really left vietnam. In their minds the war is still going.
Really makes you think
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some of them, by no means "most" of them.
1 likeGood thing American's keep voting for imperialist to lead their country, amirite?
8 likes@TheReverseEffect if voting worked, they wouldnt let us do it. we have the illusion of choice.
9 likes@Swiggity McSwooty Voting absolutely does work, the "illusion" isn't an illusion at all, but meerly the fact that the MSM on both the left and the rigjt throw around propaganda for insert candidate here and since thr average american worker isnt going to spend their limited hours on researching candidates and thier policy campaigns and sifting through whether or not the candidates even believe what they are saying they do, they just vote for whoever the MSM props up or vote for canddiates specifically off what MSNBC or Fox tells them about the candidates
0 likesWish he woulda gpt stomped even harder
0 likesWhy is this comment section full of people feeling bad for a pos who killed a pregnant woman?
1 likeWho is Andy Jamal b.?
0 likesEverybody gangster till the old seasoned vet gets into the tactical stance 💀
3 likesStories like Andy's make you realize the true cost of living in a world where we can send young men thousands of miles away to fight wars they have no business being in. The man was guilty of murdering a police officer but were all a bit guilty of the circumstances that led to it. I hope both families find peace.
9 likesIn WHAT WORLD do American cops call a suspect SIR that many times and NOT shoot him dead on the spot when acting that erratically?
1 likeFire intro
1 likeHe deserved worse
0 likesGod bless America lmao
0 likesMy last trip before the whole world was turned upside down by this covid thing was in Hue. I also rented a car and drove down to Hoi An. I took a walk through the jungle turned park in Hoi Ahn and saw the explosion craters left by the war discussed in this video. It's a true tragedy that not only did the Vietnam War left landscapes dented and ruined, it also left men like Lieutenant Andrew H. Brannan broken.
24 likesHeartbreaking. People are lost to war even if they're still with us.
31 likes9 minutes in and this episode is simply outstanding. Amazing story telling.
8 likesThe stories told in this video (and the ones I know of) are all so incredibly tragic. A young mother died with child due to shallowness, a female cop for wanting to make a justified arrest, a cop on duty desperately calling out to someone to not harm him (or themselves) and a veteran from an unnecessary war who was shown no mercy at trial despite having severe PTSD. In this story, nobody truly wins, and it all sucks. 😢 I mean, my comment itself is unnecessary and is basically a summary but boy, this was difficult to watch.
1 likethis is so horrible on both sides, a veteran who had ptsd vs a newly trained officer. my heart goes out to both of their families
1 likeMy step-grandpa was in Vietnam, and it destroyed him for nearly his entire life. War is hell.
7 likesWow. Such a great video. Never got the full story on Brannen. Thank you for this. Very intriguing looking at the influence of media on opinion
0 likesMy Grandfather told me of his friend that had to fight in the tunnels of the Viet Cong. He saw the bodies of soldiers and accidentally killed one of his own comrades. Haunted him for his whole life.
6 likesVietnam war was pathetic, and there was no reason for it. Just the loss of life. Very sad
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The reasons we did it are the same things we're doing today, and its all just as pathetic.
12 likes@Mythic We? Last time I checked it was the super wealthy and crooked politicians that make these decisions to send other people to fight their fights. It’s honestly the same with climate change. It’s “their” profits but when it’s time to face the consequences of sending tonnes of harmful gases into the atmosphere they pick up collective words like “we” and “our”.
22 likes@Smeaglekoff well,for starters someone elected that goverment,and if we are talking about america,those who love guns,bombs and military,are not few.There is a reason why the united states "solve" every problem with a war.People like it.So yeah,it is a collective responsibility.I am not saying that everyone loves war etc,and thats the only good thing for noe,but there are many people that just,do.
3 likes@Xrhstos Pex they still did it it’s not our fault we have to vote (bc if we don’t who chooses or who else will?) we didn’t force their hand.
0 likes@Blooper Dooper its not a fault,it is a responsibility that unfortunately is some times viewed as a joke.But you get what i mean.You know what a political party stands for before you vote for it.Now i can understand that in USA there are practically two parties,so yeah not so many options to choose from
1 likeYep, the main reason was money. So depressing. It won’t be long until we see the war in Iraq the exact same way.
1 likeThe US fought the Vietnam war with chemical weapons and still lost
0 likesHad tears in my eyes by the end. Truly heartwracking.
1 likeI don’t blame Andrew, I blame the war he fought in and the PTSD.
1 likeThis is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched on YouTube. Thank you sir.
0 likesthis story is incredibly sad
0 likesi wanna give the guy a hug
Haunting. But amazing work as always from jcs.
0 likesThis channel has been getting me through work throughout the day.
0 likesMy grandfather went to war twice. When he came back the second time, he wasn't right. My mom was about in he 2nd grade. He moved his family out into a trailer with no running water and tried to become a farmer. He was abusive to all his kids and his wife. This changed by the time they all graduated high school. He got much better and was a great papaw to me by the time I was around. This as one could imagine had waves of affects to this day. He is the reason my mother joined the the army. This led to her disability and trauma, but also her career and marriage. She was able to lift herself out of poverty and raise her first three by becoming an officer. And she was able to raise me and my two youngest siblings comfortably on her retirement and disability. However, i can't help but think my own family would have never been torn apart in such a violent fashion if it wasn't for the affects of this same trauma and the way she was raised. At the same time, the army brought together my family. Its why pre-divorce my siblings (me and the other younger ones too, to some degree) were raised with such discipline, faith and drive. My parents also wouldn't have ever been together if if weren't for the military. Neither would my grandparents. My papaw met my grandmother in the early 50's shortly after ww2 in Nuremberg. They were both the first generation to come up after the war. On the other hand, the us government did kill my grandmother's father (unclear if it was intentional) in some sort of camp due to his social service to the German government. I suppose my family has a strange relationship with the military. Despite its various very negative affects, its also revered and seen as a very noble institution. It has after all done much good for us. I would figure that for a certain class of rural southerner who's family has lost very much over the past 150 years, the military is one of the only and most effective methods to move up the social hierarchy.
1 like03:22 The way the two guys flinch at the explosion while the platoon leader is steady as a rock on the phone.
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Hold my spot 11:44
6 likesAll those kids around him are taking orders from him, whether they live or die may very well boil down to a decision on his part. As a leader they look to him, he needs to keep it together for them. Officers get a lot of crap, but a good officer, is indispensable.
17 likesVery sad tale, both for Andrew Brannan and for Officer Dinkheller who had no idea about the vet's background.
1 likeRip Andrew. U done well under the circumstances. Hope u r at peace nw. A man who should hv been pardoned on a death row whilst a scumbag escapes.
0 likesHoly shit, that ending really got me.
28 likesThis dudes channel is really blowing up! Great work! All hail the YT algo! 🙌🏼
3 likesHis final statement got me. I have PTSD. Not from war, thank god. I can't imagine.
0 likesLove your videos keep making more please
0 likesMan this was a sad one.
0 likesHe was not evil, but he did something really wrong. No winners only losers here. Can’t be happy that he got the death penalty, he was just a very troubled person.
I watched the footage on another channel and I did definitely notice the switch in him as he went from taunting the cop to hunting him.
0 likesThis video is so exclusive even the algorithm can't recommend anything else.
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Same. No suggestions
0 likes13:20 fucking big yikes the dude in the heli with the camera saw what his cop buddys were doing and turned the camera.
2 likesHearing about the importance of video in light of how crucial the video of George Floyd’s death turned out to be in trial is so interesting
0 likesAfter watching the intro, it's hard to condemn anyone for their crimes. I mean, they should be held accountable, but not by the U.S. government. It's like Ted Bundy punishing you for stealing a lollipop.
0 likesthis was the best thing ive watched on youtube in genuinely so long, thank u
0 likesI wonder how Loyd's lawyer felt defending him?
4 likes17:30 SPOT ON!!!! God bless this detective. My exact thoughts he put into words for that POS to hear!!
1 likeThis man's production is top tier
1 likeHis last words made me cry. Damn, one of the best youtube chanles.
0 likesSome of the greatest content i have seen on youtube.
1 like“I’m glad to be getting out of this place” wow that was sad
11 likesThem last words just gave me chills.
0 likesIt's the least watched video on this series, but it's the best one as well. Damn this hit hard.
0 likesWould love a conversation with that eyewitness (in the beanie & red shirt). No reason in particular, my impression is just she seems like a lovely person to talk to.
0 likesSo fucked up that a combat veteran gets the full brunt of the law, but that piece of shit who put bullets in a dead woman is still alive. Contrasting these cases is an excellent way to examine the complexity of the police system
1 likeOne of best jsc videos if you ask me🔥
2 likesMan, actual news. With raw footage. Of actual events. News has fallen so far these days.
0 likesThe glass cracking by the camera as the bullets hit the windshield made my chest hurt. Jesus
0 likesAndy probably would of been a great guy if none of his family including himself went to War
0 likesMan, that is just terrible. The video is great as always, but the subject matter is just so heartbreakingly tragic. This was just a horrible situation for everyone involved, and it just makes you think.
0 likesSo you train someone to be a killer, then they act like a killer, then you kill them for killing. Smh.
5 likesThe unedited video of this gun battle is pure brutal. Not visual brutality. Audio. Death screams, etc. You get the picture.
1 likeTragic for the Officer, His Family, and Andy & His. Very hard to watch.
0 likesMore videos please. Ive seen them all
0 likesI genuinely don't understand why there's a warning at the beginning. I've seen more shocking videos with no warning before on YouTube. I kept expecting to see gruesome footage and never saw any. I'm not complaining, i just don't see why this needs a warning, let alone a double warning.
5 likesIt just doesn't seem much different, let alone worse, than the other videos on this channel, which don't have any warning
I keep going back and watching his videos as if he's going to post another one soon :(
0 likesThis video is a damn masterpiece.
4 likesThe opening scene with the planes dropping bombs and the happy ass music was fairly creepy lol
0 likesAnother example of how under trained cops in America are many citizens have far more training and skill than police
0 likesNow I see why YT asked me twice if I really wanted to watch this. The ending where the circle back to “joyfull music” to simulate the relative cluelessness and ignorance of mainstream culture. chefs kiss brilliant
5 likesExcellent work!!
0 likesA very hard one to watch, but very important too. No kidding on the warning...
1 likeWhat a sad story. Can't help but feel sorry for the guy. Hope the dog is okay.
0 likesNo exaggeration, YT just made me confirm I wanted to watch this 5 times. This HAS to be good
0 likesI’m young, I feel like I need too see what happened
0 likesR.I.P any person that has fallen victim to war. Those who died in it, those who suffer the consequences and take their own lives during or after and those who died at the hands of those unable to cope with their anger/sadness due to war.
0 likesThat being said, America, stop your war loving ways. Fighting for your country is honorable. Being the agressor in most recent conflicts, dividing the world even further, is the main reason so many suffer from war.
Just incredible content
0 likesGlad to be getting out this place... How sad...😢
0 likesFrankly, juries are jerks.
0 likesThey knew what that man did to his girlfriend, unborn child, made kids orphans and to that nice police lady.
But still not giving him death penalty.
And for Andy, they knew he is suffering from PTSD. Still, they executed him.
the way these videos are masterpieces
0 likeswow that was well done
0 likesAight, with that I’ve watched every single video on this channel after watching “What pretending to be crazy looks like”
1 likeThat intro was top notch, had me feelin some kinda way..
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Contrast...
0 likesthe full video of the shooting is traumatising to watch
1 like9:06 i’m sorry but what is that?😂😂 i’ve handled pistols only during my military service as a conscript so i’m not an expert but somewhat good but that officer is using a weapon in his work and that is the skill of his gunhandling...
0 likesIts interesting that now people get ptsd just because someone used the wrong pronoun on twitter.
1 likeWell I've been to the VA in Atlanta, Ga and I gotta say I don't know how much good that place did.
0 likesDon't let the government make you think you are doing a justice by serving their war. while both leaders are safe.
0 likesHere is the full recording of Kyle Dinkheller's death. It is hard to watch. He was only 22 years old. PTSD is very real and I'm sure very tough to deal with. But to believe that this was only because of PTSD and his past is hard to believe. If you read into the court case on Andrew, there is a complete lack of remorse, with him stating that he killed the officer "because he let me". Nonetheless very heartbreaking.
2 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6z8q4lOrDU
God rest their souls.
0 likesThe dude killed a bunch of people and the cops were like "yeah we'll get him... Eventually"
0 likesA war that was caused by america and lost by america, the people that caused the Vietnam war didn’t lose though, the people that actually fought in the war are the true ones that lost.
4 likesAnd those good soldiers were then mistreated when they came home, as a whole, the American soldiers of the Vietnam war were first at war against Vietnam, then their own fellow people were at war with them, as if the noble soldiers had any control in their situation.
The American people and the American entertainment, government, and leaders were all in the wrong, and the people forced to kill were in the right, yet we found a way to make it seem the inverse.
“I was a racketeer, a Gangster for capitalism.” Major General Smedley Butler.
Sadly, but I can understand Andy
1 likeGreat video
1 likeFirst rate! A magnificently poignant video.
2 likesThe Vietnam war was definitely "hazadous" lol (for those of you wanting to recheck it's around 2:00) :)
0 likesI probably should have took the hint and backed out of watching this video 😔
0 likes“Another officer may have let it go” …😂
0 likesThis is why I could never be a cop. Way too emotional I would have beat that dude up even more for what he did to that woman and the baby and the officer. I'm glad I'm not a cop but still don't think they should've been violent you have to keep it professional no matter how you feel. I can see the cops side but it was wrong
0 likesthe end hits so hard
0 likesincredibly underrated video
0 likesSo what exactly upset yt? The fact the murderer was ruffed up? I'm not sorry for him.
3 likes2 cops that should have used the shoot first ask questions later approach
0 likesSo im this white guy in his 30's that is listening to all video's on this channel via a headphone while working in the Netherlands. So during this video i was surprised why for the first time the first interrogation was so damn aggressive. The cop openly wishing the suspect dead and everthing.. so i take out my phone. Ah, its not a young pretty woman this time, but a black man. Forgot that this was a American case oir a split second.
1 like"What are you watching?"
7 likes"This video on YouTube... weird thing though, YouTube asked me twice if I was sure I wanted to watch it. Apparently it's graphic."
"Oh, you're learning about Vietnam!"
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It wasn't the Vietnam footage that got it age restricted, but the footage of the firefight between the vet and the cop, and/or the footage of the black man's injuries, I believe
0 likesWhat do cops think they are signing up for exactly?
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A license to kill, with a great salary and excellent benefits.
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.”
4 likesI need more content!!!! Where did you go?!?!
0 likesdamn…
0 likeswhat a twist
Incredible insight very provocative.
0 likesI guess to our legal systems the life of a police officer is worth more than that of dozens of civilians, including woman and children. It’s certainly the pattern seen In sentencing.
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This video shows the opposite. Dude killed his pregnant gf and a cop and got life
2 likes"They beat me up" GOOD
1 like4 video of this channel i see, has soldiers and checks age 3 times. I expect nothing.
0 likesA criminal, who killed a mother, a police officer, and an unborn child, is spared because some police officers were a little pissed off at what he had done. Yet a Vietnam veteran who had served this country is sentenced to death despite his PTSD. I’m not saying what he did was ok, and it shouldn’t go unpunished, but to see the irony in all this is sad.
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That's the jury system
3 likesA shame Lloyd is allowed life
0 likesYour stuffs 'bout to get real when YouTube asks you 3 times if you really wanna watch
0 likesContrapuntal music is a hell of a device!
1 likeReally great opening!
0 likesI'm glad they kicked his eye out.
1 likeWhen I clicked on this video, YouTube said it might be inappropriate and asked me to confirm if I want to watch it. Guess that’s why this is the least viewed video on the channel.
0 likesNormally I'm super ACAB but you can hear the fear in that BOYS voice
0 likes22
Goddamn
that poor officer.
0 likesThis video is the epitome of America’s failures
5 likesButholetube says this is inappropriate... ah reality is always inappropriate the past is never to be forgotten keep it up I like this channel and you should offer voice overs for some other videos ah they are so hard to listen to....
0 likesLegend has it the chick singing the song at the beginning will be true to you
0 likesDeathrow for 15 years?! How long is the average?
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It generally takes that long if not longer.
0 likesCredit card or photo id? Screw that 😒
0 likesOh i know this murder. I saw this on liveleak
0 likesThat intro was lit af
1 likeSo horribly sad. Two lives lost. War and PTSD are living hell.
0 likesWow so being asked more than once was not a glitch
0 likes1:44 that was my dads job in the vietnam war
0 likesHoly shit this video is so important
0 likesso many young men, just wasted.
1 likeYouTube asked me 3 times if I want to watch this so I'm hoping it's interesting
0 likesOkay, it's insulting to say that the police kicked a dude that just dragged himself across a lawn on his belly because they were scared. They kicked him in the face because they were mad. Dude was a POS, but don't lie to my face and pretend like you thought he was going to Kung Fu all 20 cops. They beat him because that's what cops do when someone kills other cops. If he would have killed a civilian, the police would not have taken it personally, and that should really tell you something.
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This is exactly right.
4 likesokay but regardless they were dealing with a threat, not only did he murder his baby mama and kid but a police officer. the fact you’re defending that sicko goes to show you’re a terrible human being.
12 likes@Vick Dog I guess the part where I called this guy a POS sailed right past you. So, I'm just going to stop reading your post at "Okay."
4 likes@dylan innnal nobody is defending him. what they did was excessive and they only acted that way because i cop was killed. if ur trying to deny that, then ur showing ur bias as well
7 likes@dylan innnal The job of the police is not to exact street justice. This guy was permanently blinded in one eye, and if a civilian permanently blinded a cop in one eye, I seriously doubt you'd call that "a little harsh". The job of police officers is to apprehend SUSPECTS and bring them to the judicial system so their guilt can be established. This is not Judge Dredd.
6 likes@J Barnes yea he was permanently blinded in one eye, if you ask me he got off easy compared his baby mama and the cop he murdered. but i guess you’ll just ignore that part which is definitely a red flag for anyone that hangs around you…
0 likesi agree, 100%. it’s not about defending the defendant. it’s the fact that cops should not be emotionally driven in cases. when they fuck up and literally beat up the defendant before he can even go to court, that’s kinda the whole point of the video. Yes, he’s a piece of shit, but they’re still not allowed to use force on anyone in custody. Asshole or not, guilty or not, they’re not allowed to do that. y’all are missing the point
2 likesTriple content warning? Nice
1 likeNot sure why this video is the least viewed from JCS - CP
0 likesAlthough the other videos are also amazing, this one is my favorite.
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There are no ads on the video, so YT can't make any money, so doesn't recommend it
1 likeWow. Brannan is a perfect example of why we should increase mental health awareness, and why the awareness should've been increased a long time ago.
6 likesThe Veteran’s story is so tragic, my heart is broken for him.
7 likesThis was fantastically done. Very thought provoking
15 likesAnyone catch the helicopter video panning away once it was realized the officers were kicking the shit out of him?
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yeah. definitely shoulda kept the video on him and encouraged more shit kicking out of him
0 likesThe quality. I even struggle doing college assignments but this man did the whole thing on his own without anyone telling him to do it
24 likesThis is beyond beautifully made. The contradiction between the image of the vet we are given at the start and the image we perceive from the video is so vast that I had to watch it twice to even realize he was talking about the same person both times. You go from sympathetic to loathing in 20 short minutes. It REALLY does prove the impact video can have on us and is a remarkable analysis. well done.
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Interesting. I was empathetic in the beginning and till the end. I didn't feel any hatred towards him, I felt bad for him.
1 like@zZE94 he gives enough time between the two stories to where, at least I did, almost forget about his backstory by the end. That combined with the harsh and dark reality of the video really changed, again at least for me, my opinion of him. Maybe not hatred, but it without a doubt elicits a much different emotion compared to the start of the video.
0 likes@Ben Norton I understand what you mean. I, throughout the video did not even once forget about his experiences in the army and his PTSD. I guess I am more sensitive than the average person to things such as mental illnesses, I say that because I would've voted for a lighter punishment had I been in the jury. The prolonged periods of time when your own mind is not in your control no matter how much you want it to be is excruciating. I also think he probably found peace in death.
2 likes3:30 "That was some sort of rifle grenade that came through the building you know the vibe."
0 likes^^ me n the boys on the radio during the Chinese-American War of 2042.
Jim can’t swim, but maybe he can be a film director. Also, he can point out that war veterans need special care from time to time. Good for you Jim!
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His name is not Jim. You obviously don't understand the cleverness behind his channel name.
0 likesDamn that was depressing.
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RANDY!.....RANDY!...
8 likesI’m literally watching trailer park boys right now....
4 likesOut here selling yourself for cheeseburgers again!?
8 likesdoh
1 like@Apprentice Boglim A man's gotta eat!
4 likesFrig off Randy!
2 likesLove it like always, Jim. Guys, if you love this channel as much as I do, and if you have literally one dollar a month to spare, seriously SERIOUSLY give it to Jim’s patreon. There’s sooo much content (like this video) and its literally the best dollar you’ll ever use.
11 likesI love you Jim Can't Swim! Thank you for bringing us awesome content!
9 likesthis video is age restricted. Anyone could upload this to somewhere else?
0 likesMy dad was in Vietnam and he has flashbacks all the time. Scary shit. Rip daddy.
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I'm sorry to hear that, it is very difficult. My deceased business partner's widow told me once that he would wake up every night screaming with night terrors. He was a Vietnam Vet. He saw many of his buddies die.
13 likesHad** flashbacks
12 likes@msiali hhayads mate if you hear someone you dont even know personally went through a extremely scary war and had PTSD from it and is now dead and you say hes in hell, is reaching the lowest of lows
22 likes@msiali hhayads 'Wars' in Turkey, like the 1915 Genocide of the Armenians that they still deny to this day?
7 likesrip dad
1 like@Jenier Rivera and you wanted to add this correction because? how inconsiderate. ugh. she can refer to her father in any tense she wants.
2 likes@msiali hhayads how about the 1.5million Armenians slaughtered in 1915 with millions more raped, starved and tortured. And now in 2020 Turkey and Azerbaijan still killing Armenians for land, 'religion' and oil. How can you condemn Israel's behaviour towards Palestine but commend Turkey for doing exactly the same monstrosities to Armenia? Sick. You dismay war unless it serves a purpose for you.
1 like@msiali hhayads well I personally believe if you kill evil it’s different than if you kill good
0 likeshe died just after you finished writing the 2nd sentence of this comment?
0 likesHAD
0 likes@msiali hhayads A LOT of the soldiers that fought in the Vietnam war were drafted. They had no choice BUT to fight, as refusing to is a felony punishable by a $230,000 fine as well as prison time. Those on the frontlines had to kill others in order to survive themselves, and many NEVER wanted to be in that position. They didn’t sign up to join the military, they were forced.
0 likesPTSD is no joke. I️ have it from far less than being forced to kill and seeing your platoon blown to pieces.
Telling someone that lost their loved one to PTSD from a war they very possibly never wanted to be a part of that they’re now in hell is absolutely disgusting.
I️ don’t even BELIEVE in hell, but if there is one, you’re the one headed that way.
@msiali hhayads So you somehow think the genocides, concentration camps and torture would just end if wars were no longer fought? Thats a nice thought but not reality, violence is not a new thing in humanity and violence to the extremes you mention are typically only resolved with violence. You think someone never thought to just politely ask those people committing atrocities to stop first?
0 likesF
0 likes@J Diaz did that make you feel better?
0 likes@Alyss Kennedy 😤 no
0 likesHe was basically Rambo.
0 likesWhy are Jcs intros always so raw
0 likesEverything I've read and seen about the Dinkheller case made Brannan look like a cold-blooded killer... having watched this, it really puts things in perspective. Brannan was a man standing on the edge of the abyss, and Dinkheller made the innocent mistake of nudging him. Such a damn shame.
14 likesI was going to say the same thing as the comment below; this must be a really good one, since YT had 2 warning pop ups! Lol. I've never had that happen before. Every now and then, I'll get that pop up, but never had it pop up twice! I'm very, very intrigued now. Lol. On to the video....btw, I better not have nightmares, or somebody needs to come protect me. Lol
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First warning is by YT itself, 2nd warning is the normal age restriction which normally doesn't show if you're in a logged in account. The YT warning must trigger the community warning to also show
0 likesHats off to anyone that served in Vietnam. Nobody will ever truly understand what you saw.
16 likeshow have i never seen this one wtf
0 likes“He has a dog named Moses and he loved that babyyy...”
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💀💀💀💀
22 likesWhat is the babyyyyy thing?
9 likes@KAISER KIEFER watch Jennifer's Solution
134 likes@Emma V I did I must’ve missed it isn’t it like love that Mercedes baby?
46 likes@KAISER KIEFER yep that's the one 😂
18 likes@Emma V does the asian chick say my dad loves that Mercedes baby? I'm so confused😂
3 likes@KAISER KIEFER Yes. Its right at the end of the video of hers as well. Its also the most well known phrase she says. Everyone quotes it on her video.
17 likes@PopADoseYo ah okay I must’ve drifted off. I’ll go back and check. Thanks for the info!
2 likesHis dog was by his side till the end.
17 likesHahahahaha
0 likesLOLLLLLLLL
0 likes@KAISER KIEFER why is this reply section so wholesome though...lol
2 likes@nigela Ivanka Streegan Salazar it’s either everyone felt like being helpful. Or they really wanted to let me know how much he loved that Mercedes baby!
3 likes💀
0 likesI GOT WAR FLASHBACKS STFU HAHAHAHAHAHA
5 likes😭😭😭😭noooo
0 likes@Emma V lol 😂
0 likes@skandy iAm omg I just realized the dog had the saddest ending
2 likeshahahahahahahaha
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likesI think it was a quote
0 likesHIS HAYYYR, WAS THEYYYYRE!
0 likesLol perfect! 👌
0 likesHAHAHAHAHHA Jennifer !
0 likesFeds told bro beat the case and we catch the fair
0 likesHe did nothing wrong.
1 likeThis is an absolutely beautifully made video, as well as all of the ones I've viewed on this channel. Thank you for your contribution to this website. Thank you so so much !
5 likesStraight to the comment section because of the youtube warning.. .....as I read them, I slowly find that the video I am about to watch might not be as great as I first thought it would and has more power in terms of impact on people than it does for pure entertainment
0 likesI'm not sure what I expected but, this video hasn't helped with my depression.
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same man...same.
15 likesIf it helps, here's your consolation prize: you ain't the only one out there who sees things the way you do. Here's hopin', one day it'll get better because of that fact. If not, here's t'good company and misery, friend.
46 likesSame 😔
2 likesBuy yourself an ice cream!
10 likes@Fred Spofford No happiness, 'cause no icecream, 'cause no money, 'cause broken exploitative system and society. One. Of. Us.
5 likes@Discourse fucking society doesn't let us have ice cream >:(
10 likesTry Alan Watts my dude.
5 likes@SaxonOrion Will do
0 likes@Fred Spofford Done and done
0 likes@Discourse <3
0 likesTake care my dude!
1 likeThey never do help our depression but I’m always thankful I’m not watching a crime show where I’m the victim.. stay strong hitchens as you’re not alone 😊
2 likesDidums
0 likesSomething that might help is thinking about the message of this video. The message is that there's so much complexity to these events, almost always more complexity than what is publicly expressed. It's almost comforting to see these types of videos as examples for why we like to call the modern era the "Information Age." Just as we see neolithic cultures as societies reliant on stone, we see ourselves as reliant on information, and the use of information to make our society.
2 likesI don't know. I just like making these little rants now and then.
Same for me my brother. 💯👍🏻
0 likesI feel u. Stay strong ❤
0 likesLads, maybe it's not best time to listen to real crime stuff. Talking from experience. Anyhow I'm sending best wishes!
1 likeI guess the world around you is indifferent to your emotions
0 likesthe good thing is
1 likethe more people pay attention to what is actually happening
the better our chances of transcending these tragedies
we are responsible for what we choose to do...
love and peace
and thanks for another revealing video...
I’m sorry mr Hitchens
2 likesThere’s bad things in the world and there’s good things. You can easily become submerged in the bad by focusing too much on the bad. Balance between them. There’s a time to watch cat videos also. Here’s a silly trick , even if you have no reason to smile force your mouth into a smile. Somehow this makes you feel better , if just for a moment.
0 likesI remember being a child and being shown the dashcam footage of the traffic stop when the local police did a visit to our school class. I was in the 5th grade. They showed us the footage as a sign of the unknown dangers they faced every day on duty but never talked about the story of Mr Brennan. Sad stuff all around.
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They showed a video of a cop getting murdered to 10 year olds?
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1 likeSwear I thought Markeith was in a red hat & had an extremely hairy left arm lol
I understand the atitude towards the man who killed his girlfriend and the policewoman. Oh my... he asked for medical help and didn't get it immediately, shocking... Of course he could kill people and not care about them but if he is treated badly all hell breaks loose.
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Gunning down a policewoman should strip you of your human rights. He didn't even deserve medical attention
11 likesZenyatta why are police held in a higher regard than the pregnant women
33 likesTheir job is supposed to be to keep their cool and do their job. They put that aside for their own personal feelings, which should be grounds for job termination. The point of the police is to demonstrate a peaceful society, not their own personal judgement.
15 likes@Izabela Izzy When police are allowed to have their own vendetta and pursue revenge then they are no longer police but a collection of organized thugs.
28 likes@ForsakenSavior let's see how u feel about that when someone kills ur best friend and ur expected to treat the killer with respect
8 likes@LeadLegHighKick good question. The answer is probably because everyone generally acts in their own self interest and cops protect your self interest more than a unknown pregnant woman does. Killing a pregnant woman should also strip you of your human rights in my opinion though. Human rights are for people willing to participate in society not terrorize it.
5 likes@Zenyatta that's the whole point of a justice system is that it does not give the power of judge, jury, & executioner to the victim because obviously they will always go for harshest punishment. its as the saying goes the punishment should fit the crime. in the end we are all human beings and are deserving of respect no matter where our life choice has brought us.
10 likesThe police chooses their job
5 likesHe chose to do his "job" as well.
4 likes@Frizzurd Umm.... how do you think he got his wounds? lmfao 🤣 for fuck sakes they kicked him in the eye and permanently blinded him!
4 likes@Zenyatta That mentality is why wars start in the first place. They both throw hissy fits and fight dirty because the other fights dirty. That's just greedy children being irrational. If you want a peaceful society, you have to show that it can be done peacefully. Otherwise you aren't better then anarchists.
3 likes@air breather lol
3 likesOk he did some bad shit and could had been put to death with the evidence, but the fact that the police couldnt treat him with the professionalism and humanity people deserve ( even if you think he didnt deserve it) and expect from public servants no matter how bad they are, they ruined that guys chance of a justifiable execution. Your innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, no matter the evidence the cops, investigators, or detectives have against you. If you are dealing with someone you know is guilty dont treat them like shit and act like an unprofessional ass. The guy that killed the woman cop could had had the death penalty(which he rightly deserved!) But by not being professional these cops ruined that. No matter how much they hate whom they arrested and how potentiallly gullty they may be, they need to maintain professionalism among other things so that dirtbags like this guy dont get off easier because they couldnt maintain their demeanor and professionalism. I am not defending Markieff I'm just saying justice was not applied in the way it should had been because these officers gave the defense the ammo. Can you imagine how this case would had gone if they had shown restraint and shown professionalism?
4 likesYour right to live is fortified when you harm others
2 likes@war32mec You're only innocent until proven guilty if you're not white
2 likesIf you're white it's guilty until proven innocent
@Jim Sigs honestly you are pretty on point with this comment. Seems any more if your white your instantly guilty..especially if you are defending your self against another human who isnt white. Even though most people this day in age just see people as people and their crimes regardless of the color of their skin. If you commit a crime you commit a crime. It really doesn't matter your color! It's even been proven police dont police based on color based on stats. It sickens me that no matter what your color is the MSM and what not have to turn it into that if a black kid gets killed its nation wide news but a couple white kids or even asian or middle eastern kids get killed it's just no interest by our benevolent media. It's disgusting!
2 likes@Dingle Barry agreed
0 likesThe reason to not mistreat prisoners is this:
3 likesWhen you have someone in custody, you're supposed to be "in control" - if you're not able to maintain control in a way that doesn't needlessly hurt people, then the system itself shows a defect (in much the same way the murderer's aggression and impulse control was defective). And because the system is defective enough to cause extrajudicial suffering, it can't rightly be trusted to make decisions about imprisonment and execution.
@Comrade Tiki somebody kills my buddy I'm kicking teeth in lol
1 like@air breather Actually most wars start from pacifism. One side yields to another side which emboldens them into taking more and more until they become an aggressor that people have to fight a major war to stop. Once you let that momentum start, you lost. That's why many who serve always talk about the importance of diplomacy. Diplomacy is not sacrificing for temporary peace, it is fighting for lasting peace.
2 likesTo take the analogy of LE to this situation. The concept of political correctness is what is allowing things like these riots and looting to go on. Even though several decades ago most Sherriff departments would not stand for that kind of chaos. They would intervene as soon as crimes started being committed. The act of establishing tolerance towards evil only propagates that evil.
@Dave Smith Let's look at WWII as an example. Were we attacked before we supplied troops and weapons to their enemies, or after? How about 9/11? Were we attacked unprovoked, or was that after we showed heavy presence and political push in the Middle East?
0 likesYou're arguement falls apart considering we always have the first move of aggression. Switzerland was in the middle of WWII and remained neutral, profiting from both sides. Plenty of other examples that prove you wrong.
@Dave Smith what you said is so on point it's crazy!
1 likeThis video is underrated
0 likesHoly crap. This video was phenomenally done. A+ story telling. I was sobbing by the end.
4 likes😥😢
0 likesThis emotional rollercoaster made me cry. It’s fascinating how you can watch a video analyzing human psychology - and end up learning about it from your own reaction.
3 likeswell now i’m crying
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Keep crying. This shit happens every day
0 likesI feel sorry for the guy. I suffer from PTSD, depression, anxiety and paranoia and every day is a challenge to keep going. People don't understand the burdens which these conditions bring. Especially for someone that went through what he went through in Vietnam
3 likesthis is my last video and i don't know what to do with myself
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place.”
439 likesThat left me shook.
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I felt so sorry for him when he said that, we failed him and many many others.
48 likesRest up war dog, you earned it.
12 likesThat was a deep statement. The guy probably meant it as escaping his psychological hell.
13 likesA good man ruined by a pointless war, very sad.
10 likes@Madison Fritzsche reminds me of the book "The origins of war in child abuse".
1 likeMarine combat vet, you contrasted the two perceptions on war perfectly in your opening sequence. I often find civilians tend to have a very naive, skewed, and twisted view on war and find it impossible to explain to them why they are wrong. A famous quote summarizes this "America didn't go to war, the Marines went to war. America went to the mall." The best way I can describe listening to civilians talk about war is to say its like listening to a 3 year old explain where babies come from.
3 likesLevel 100 mafia boss vs level 1 thug
0 likesI hate that Markeith Loyd wasn't fully brought to Justice because of the pain the officers were going through. They truly respected and loved their fallen officer and her contribution. And that love is what lost their justice.
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Too bad, they should’ve been professional. “Love” has no place when you’re processing a suspect. The way those officers reacted was so pathetic and childish. It did nothing but make the police look like just another gang, engaging in petty insults and threats that did nothing but make them look foolish in front of the rest of the community. Contrast that with the Parkland shooter’s interrogation; much more heinous crime, but it was dealt with much more smoothly by the interrogation officers.
1 like@George Rockwell were they unprofessional? Yes. Were they emotional? Absolutely. Should they have been the ones to handle him? Probably not. But it's still telling how much they loved her in their team. I wish things would've been handled differently to get the best sentence of justice possible. But cops are human too. And I'm sure this was a lesson the department learned the hard way.
4 likesIt's still not right. It's still a bad look on the officers. But I respect their loss and pain.
The story about Andrew Bannon is one too similar and common with veterans, truly sad. Thai video brought a couple tears. And truly shows the difficulty and danger in a cop's everyday duties. Rest in Piece Andrew Bannon and Kyle Dinkheller.
18 likesOur gov't should be ashamed of themselves for the lack of empathy and care shown towards our veterans. They deserve a helluva lot more than what's afforded to them
52 likesPoor lad, he'd left too much of himself behind, cut too many "superfluous" aspects of himself off to survive. He was too young, too incomplete to be in that kind of conflict. Kid didn't compartmentalise, for him, it was formative. He wasn't even a person yet, and they done him too raw. Fuckin' dischargin' him 'n' not even properly carin' for him after they trained him into a machine of war. Poor family, poor officer, poor kid. So unnecessary.
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That's your abusive and manipulative America!
12 likesUse and abuse you and then throw you away like you are trash, because of course, you've served your purpose.
Smh
You write well.
0 likes@Frosti80 It doesn't look to me like much has changed. How many homeless vets are there in the US?
4 likesToo many to count.
How much of a damn does the abusive gov give about their PTSD?
None!
Look at all the soldiers that are coming back today and tell me, how much has really changed with all the education?
It's so sad, just heartbreaking to see these individuals come back a wreck and most stay that way for life.
@Frosti80 Trench warfare had taught 'em enough, as far as I, personally am concerned. We've walked this path repeatedly, and you should always be aware of what is conveniant, and for who.
1 like@Frosti80 For context, my family has been involved in every single one of these conflicts over the course of generations, I am the exception 'cause I didn't join the armed forces at 16 like Mick, who jumped out of aeroplanes, fucked his knees, probably shot and personally killed a fair few children 'imself, and now, even in his old age, keeps his knife tarred by his bedside, and throws his wife half way across the room in a fit of night terrors. He had the fortune to participate in both these wars we're discussing, as his father before him.
1 like@John Doe Oops, yeah, what you said.
1 like@John Doe And they called it "battle fatigue" before that. We knew. We always knew.
0 likes@Eric Harrison Keep your regurgitated propaganda to yourself 🙄
1 likeTheMetamorphosisOfGipsy help, I hate it here 😅
1 like@Tanea Bree I feel you! 😔
0 likesWhy is this video not posted on the main channel?
0 likesHonestly can't believe this is this guy's least watched video.
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didn't have high expectations in the beginning because of that so I left it till the end to watch . Turns out to be one of the best on this channel xD
13 likesYes! One of my most favourite JCS videos!
3 likesfor me, it just wasnt click bait. but now that im missing his videos🥺. Im disappointed in myself for not watching it sooner
2 likesIt's the thumbnail.
2 likesmost probably shadow banned by YT because the Floyd case. the public reactions where pretty similar.
0 likesHe wasnt mad he was bad.
0 likesYouTube asked me 3 times if I really wanna watch this. Sheesh!
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And?
0 likesJim, I watch your channel all day at work some days (I’m a day trader right now, taking a break from my psychological coaching gig, during the pandemic, who also has a true crime and psychology podcast).
3 likesI’ve got to tell you, you are one of the psychological professionals who seems to truly grasp the many and varied implications of disordered personalities, their various group and individual modus operandi, and the ways that their actions impact those around them.
Thank you for all of your informed and well produced content! You do outstanding work, my friend!!
Why does the interrogation sound like a Xbox 360 lobby 😂
0 likesI feel safe in comment section. I feel less alone. I wish we could just all live together watching and discussing videos like this, be just chill and happy.
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u cool:))
3 likesMe too :)
4 likes@chibi chini your pfp nice
1 like@Kulbir ur name nice hehe
0 likesAwwww c:
1 likei miss you Nino
0 likesNo one comes back from war. No one
1 likeThis video made me feel very nostalgic. Not sure if it’s a good feeling or a bad one but thank you for putting this together so well.
4 likesCop died because he couldn't utilize force. Sad
0 likesWe should have never been in Vietnam
0 likesLOVE JCS!
1 likeDang, yt ask me six times if I want to watch this video
0 likesThis completely ruined my morning, just the whole thing. Service guy suffering, cops dying doing their jobs, Society not understanding any of it, killers that shouldn’t be alive, just all of it. Andy’s face at the end and him saying he wanted out, after all he saw doesn’t excuse what he did but damn, where would this country be without his sacrifice? He damn sure needed his meds, someone should’ve been there for him. What a world we reside…indeed.
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this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
0 likes@Jam yeah that perplexes many people. She absolutely murdered her daughter, she’ll pay one day.
1 like@Doug Canney well said, this is just all around heartbreaking
0 likes15:38 man fuck how could they kill dababy
0 likes11:00 doesn't this guy knows black lives matters?
0 likesTalk about an eye for an eye .
0 likesSo good
0 likesI've been watching this channel before "what pretending to be crazy looks like" but dang bro that video blew up. Well deserved 👌
25 likesWho is offended by this video, exactly?
0 likesAll those American cops shooting with no reason and this poor lad tried to he the good guy on the psycho with a rifle...
0 likesThat song at the start slaps ngl
0 likesThis channel is so underrated this is better than netflix
0 likesThis one hit me hard man. just a tragedy for everyone involved.
10 likesThat dog loyal
0 likesthe song at the end sounds like the verse of shakermaker by oasis.
0 likesThis had me cuttin' onions ......one does not get "PTSD" from what one sees, but from what one does ..... put into a bad situation, or a series of bad situations, can bring out the under world in all of us, potentially ....... having never been to war as a former Marine Grunt, I can only imagine the horror ....... seeing what it does breaks my heart 😞
2 likesThe only mistake they made with Markeith was not blinding him in both eyes before his life sentence.
2 likesOne of my favorite videos on this site. Hell, one of my favorite channels period. Everything from editing, script, points being made.... I haven't found anything close to what this channel provides.
3 likesIt's... hard to say so and whatnot... but... Jesus Christ... when that Vietnam kicked in... that guy was invincible. It is unique and humbling... we have no idea what happened in the jungle...but we ... can see it here.
0 likesOh boo hoo a triple-murderer got mocked. What ever will he do? How ever will he recover?
0 likesHow people can be swayed by an argument like "they mocked a murderer" and then empathize with the murderer, I will never understand.
War should be a universally illegal thing, no exceptions. All the movies through the decades, while being masterfully made, do glorify war, make it seem romantic, heroic, even fun. Making entertainment out of something that is essentially an organized psychotic bloodbath. It' sucks.
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@Purro Memes The glorification and promotion of it is not inevitable. What we can do is make wars much less likely. If ppl stopped living and acting like it's inevitable, stopped raising their kids in a mindset of conflict, we have some hope.
1 like@JCS - Criminal Psychology are you guys on any new tech sites? just incase YT gives you problems at some point I'd like to still be able to find your video's elsewhere
0 likesThis channel is CRIMINALLY underrated, thanks for your work. Keep it up, with love from the UK!
6 likesFuck. The Vietnam war caused so much damage due to ignorance.
0 likesMan dude I'm not going to read any other comments until I say this. WoW this was an amazing video to watch and illuminated the problem with vet's and society perfectly. We should expect our young men and women to go into battle like that unless we know we can take the correct actions to keep them safe when they've retuned. My heart goes out to all of the people ever put into battle for this and other countries. It's just disgusting that we live in a world where humans still believe killing other humans is the correct course of action for anything 😢
7 likesI can't believe he wasn't evaluated thoroughly before his trial. The vet was clearly disturbed and not in the right state of mind at the time. And as for the murderer in the example footage, that guy is a monster and should have had Andy's fate instead of getting a lighter sentence. He had intent and was actively evading arrest. I wonder why Andy's ruling couldn't be overturned and changed to life in prison or something similar instead of death due to more thorough evaluation of the proceedings and evidence after the fact. I feel so sad for all the victims families, no one deserves to lose a loved one.
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Yeah, prally had a shit attorney. :(
0 likesMaybe he could have had the sentence reduced but didn't want to fight it? He was obviously suicidal, he wanted the cop to kill him and was happy when he was executed, I can see him not fight the verdict even if he had a possibility to have the death penalty overturned
0 likesThis case resonates with me as Andy is similar to my father. He was the sole survivor of his squad, who was ambushed on patrol during Vietnam, and he never recovered from it. Eventually he committed suicide a few years ago after dealing with the trauma for decades. While I've seen my fair share of deaths from inner-city gang violence and lost friends in front of me when growing up, the barbarism described by my father and what was done to his squad was a step above that to say the least. I can't forget the violence and deaths I've experience and it haunts me still... however, I still cannot imagine how bad it is for many Vietnam vets.
2 likesThis intro was incredible, hit home hard. And while I'm on it, this entire channel is spectacularly well thought out, and even better executed. This is the first comment I've made on Youtube in years, just because I'm blown away by the quality of this channel.
11 likesIt’s amazing how the things you see can fully disable you. Like mental disabilities are crazy because it’s all in your head and you can’t do anything about it.
1 likeThis was so sad. I feel sorry for both the officer and the war veteran. None of them deserved this but in life you can't change the circumstances. I really hope both RIP!
13 likesPS: I started with 'What pretending to be crazy looks like' and ended with this. A very nice binge watch session. I hope more great videos will be posted soon.❤💜
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You're beautiful
0 likesI’ve watched all your video except maybe two (that I am going to watch at a later time), but this video has by far been the most impactful. In a sense, the death penalty for Andy B. was the best sentence he could have received. In his last words, the ending of his statement said a lot about his mental struggle. RIP to the officer killed in the line of duty and RIP to the veteran that didn’t know another way out.
0 likesThis one has incredibly powerful message
8 likesEven got me in tears..Poor people..
Love what you’re doing,man!
Honestly, this is one of the best editing vietnam intro's I have ever seen. With the explanation during the scenes...it just hits the right spot. The rest of the video also was great.
4 likesI can see this from all sides. I’d be absolutely filled with murderous rage if a fellow officer I loved and respected were gunned down in the street like an animal. But I’m also livid that these cops let emotion take over and became the same people they arrest and throw in prison and just completely get away with it.
0 likesThis video is brilliant, as is the whole channel. Thank you for your work.
1 like"I'm glad to be getting out of this place" hits very hard.
237 likesI hope you're in a better place with your dog now Andy B.
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Whereever he went is not better. He's a murderer
5 likes@Mario where's your empathy at man?
2 likes@Suhani Arora At the end of the day, you are responsible for what you do. You should be held accountable and never put on a pedestal because no humans life is worth more than another.
1 like@Mario id like to see your fragile little mind after witnessing the horrors of vietnam first hand.
7 likesyeah the guy killed a cop.. he also served his country (drafted to boot so didnt even want to be there), which resulted in him losing his mind. Maybe is the government took care of their soliders this would have been avoided.
@CC If he lost his mind from the war, then he must be fragile by your logic?
1 likeYou guys sure make a lot of excuses for this murderer
@Mario He was held responsible for what he did. It's a sad set of circumstances, maybe fate if you believe it considering the officers circumstances. It's okay to feel sympathy for both of them.
4 likes@Alabaster Go tell the cops family it was fate for him to die horribly
2 likes@Mario For all you know, they may well think it, but that's besides the point, and you know it. He was held to account more than most in his position are
0 likes@Two guys And a gym and also how was he allowed back to his car and grab a weapon with being shot?
0 likes@Alabaster he tortured the cop to death
1 like@Le best What? The screams are horrifying, but that's not prolonged torture
0 likes@Alabaster shot 9 times, and one to the eye. how is that not torture?
1 like@Le best Because it's murder? Torture is when you put a victim through prolonged pain for the purpose of pain.
0 likes@Alabaster its still torture
1 likePlease keep doing your videos. They give so much to think about, thank you.
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Agreed. This channel has grown and grown in popularity. I’m seeing memes about his channel on IG now. I’m sad this is the last video of his for me to watch.
2 likeslove your videos. really enjoy the commentary and education.
0 likesThat was a really confusing reading of Lloyd's sentence recommendation by the jury foreperson...
29 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place"
69 likesThere goes my tears
These are really good videos and I've been bingeing (?) . I lost a good friend about 2 years ago to cancer from the napalm. I miss him lots. He saved my life more than once. RI Willie. Thank you
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love u buddy keep ur head up
0 likesAlso, the cop towards the end of the video fought well vs Brannan. If Brannan hadn't ducked he would have gotten his head shot off. He just lost to a very well trained active shooter.
0 likesCan we just fully appreciate the dude at 3:28 who didn’t even BLINK when that grenade fell. Just paused like he was mildly inconvenienced the same way a mum would be when rudely interrupted by her 4 year old.
3 likesThis is by far the saddest one.
21 likesAnother excellent video, please keep ‘em coming!
1 likeWe create monsters and then put them down because they act like monsters. This guy should not have been on the street. I don't care how well they thought he was doing.
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He was not a monster, nor was he acting like one, in any sense of the word. From his perspective, and the world in which he was living in, his actions were not justified nor unjustified. He didn't even think about that; he wasn't living in the same world as the officer at that very moment. He was living in the past, and what he thought was happening.
0 likesIn that moment, his actions were a measure of self-defense brought upon by an episode of severe PTSD.
It's sad, but it's true. We force people to kill, then shoot them when they come home in broken spirits, with broken minds. It's tragic, but inevitable. There can't be one side to a war, or else it's just massacre. But this... this war was needless turmoil.
And for what?
What did we all gain from it, what did any of us gain from it, other than our own night terrors, the deaths and heartbrokenness of our family members, and this?
All the good I know that came out of this centers around this video, and documentaries like these. We know more about the mind now. These issues can be avoided far more in the future.
But at what terrible cost?
What this government does to it's young ppl that join the armed forces is despicable!
1 likeThat’s Florida to you. The guy was a kid sent into the meat mincer. Those who have never tasted the real bitter, gut wrenching sickness of the war cannot comprehend. Trying to play tough guy with someone who is obviously hurting. Something….
9 likesThe most pure and distilled message with the largest punch of any JCS video. Bone chilling...
0 likesJust sayin' I completely sympathise with those policemen, even though they did act very unprofessional.
0 likesYou can see when Andy shoots at the cop he moves forward towards the cop while letting off shots. That was a person not to be fucked with.
3 likesThat last line somehow broke me into pieces, what shit world we living in.
1 likeI couldn’t watch the end of this. Just so, so sad for all concerned. War destroys the minds of people, even if their body survives.
0 likesReason #542 why cops should learn de-escalation instead of yelling increasingly louder:
1 likeThe guy you're dealing with just might be an experienced and armed and borderline insane bornze star recipient.
Can you PLEASE do the Russell Williams interrogation video.I would love to hear your take on it.
0 likesOh damn, this one was basically a two-in-one episode!
11 likesI love this.
0 likesFeels more like an art project
Are we supposed to feel sorry for Markeith? Killed his wife, baby and a cop.
32 likesNo tears for that man.
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No, you missed the point of the video
2 likes@Ben lol let him sleep.
0 likesThis content is not offensive or too graphic.
7 likesVeteran > Deputy in terms of skill
The chills from his last words.
6 likesGreat video. Appreciated the sentiment - he did a terrible thing he had been taught to do by his country and then never received the help he needed. Shame on us for not seeing the human side of these men when we “welcomed” them home. Thank you to all of those who fought and lost everything in the pursuit of the freedoms I enjoy today. I salute you’re courage.
1 likeI just can't find it in my heart to feel bothered when cops kick the shit out of a man who just murdered one of their fellows in cold blood.
1 likeshrugs Nope. Not bothered.
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Yeah, he wants mercy after killing his gf and unborn child....and to top it he also shot a cop like a dog.....and still has the audacity to ask for mercy...
0 likesTo the guy who replied and deleted his comment, no one called in and said he shot his family out of the blue like it didn't happen, on top of that when confronted by a officer he opened fire wearing a BP vest. I stand by the guys watching the house with rifles and them kicking him in the face to make sure he wasnt going to try anything, but then again I don't think you would have the capability to think outside your own perception. This wasnt a racist bunch of cops out to have fun, this man killed one cop already, they understandably do not want to die them selves.
1 like“i’m glad to be getting out of this place.” hit so heavy
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Why you got my last name and first name 🤨
0 likes@Papi_Hokage_ couldn’t be possible, I’m definitely not a hokage 😔 i wish tho
1 like@Andrea Hernandez wanna become one?😌
0 likes@Papi_Hokage_ down horrendously
1 likeJeez the end with the apology before execution made me cry
6 likesThis channel is incredibly impressive
1 likeman i just hope his dog was fine poor boy caught in the crossfire
1 likeSuperb presentation! one of the best damn channels on YouTube!
0 likesWow what a moving story. Insane.
0 likesDid that cop really just "You can't handle the truth!"
2 likesAt the very end I was super convinced that the song about to start was instead We Gotta Get Out Of This Place, by The Animals. It was very popular during Vietnam war, and the last quote from Andy B. looked like a pretty direct reference.
0 likesMan this story hits hard, he killed yet he was trained to do so.. they need to help the vets , i blame.him but same time i dont , something should of been done
0 likesThis stuck video stuck around with me for some time... brilliant editing, this is documentary
0 likesSeeing the dog in the window breaks my heart :(
1 likeThis video is great but feel free to skip the first 4 minutes, the sympathy still connects without it.
0 likesOh sh*t. I noped out when I realized that it was the Kyle Dinkheller murder. Even among gruesome and disturbing videos, this is one of the worst.
0 likesI very very rarely say this, but those cops interviewing the fucker who killed that poor pregnant lady were entirely correct.
0 likesThis video is so powerful. AND YT knows it.
1 likeYou know Markeith Lloyd wanted to not get the death sentence since he hired Kingpin as his lawyer
3 likesOn the pregnant girl and cop killer case, what the fuck that jury, i would not care if the police beat him to a pulp in front of a camera he was a cold blooded murderer what did you expect?. On the veteran story, man it's so fucking sad, he was deployed twice, condecorated for courage under fire, lost 14 platoon members at war, both of his brothers at home, severe PTSD from serving his country and ends up literally killed by the country he risked his life for, killed for and lost so much for. It's too sad man, makes me water up thinking it could be muy brother
2 likesEveryone associated with this channel has beautiful taste in music 😍👍
2 likesDang the ending was so sad he just needed some help😭
0 likesThe people who sent Andy there, will they also be facing the death penalty?
0 likesMAKE MORE VIDEOS PLEASE 😭😭😭 I miss youuuuuu
0 likesMy favorite JCS video ever. I always recommend it to my friends. Wow wow wow just wow
1 likeHa when you see him start to get kicked the camera pans away lol smart move
8 likesIt's crazy that they drafted for this war and yet soldiers were still treated like bad people by many Americans.
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It's the unfortunate situation where these vets were the war personified, so frustrations that were felt for the government and its actions, which is a faceless entity and any decision makers most will never personally encounter, are scapegoated to bear the brunt of the resentment.
1 likeAndrew was provoked when the officer struck him with the baton
0 likesAlmost feel bad for this guy when he’s being interrogated….
14 likes…almost
Dude either the govt give him death penalty or a sentence thats equivalent to spending the rest of his life in confinement. Both are the same thing. Not like govt gonna just let him walk for all his years in service.
0 likesI haven’t watched all of these but so far this is the saddest one
1 likeThere is so much effing complexity in this world, largely due to what we subjected people to before we knew(?) better.
0 likesCompassion is an inherent and necessary part to life. Those without it who insist on ruling this world must be stopped.
The ending gave me goosebumps
0 likesIf you guys like this channel and want another good investigative fix, try "That Chapter" here on YT.
2 likesI don't think he was talking about being glad about leaving Prison but the war he never left....fuck.
2 likesThis was so depressing and sad.
0 likesI think people find this so upsetting because nobody was at fault here, Andy B was not a criminal, he was a survivor, neither was the officer, where many would have shot, he didn’t. The state is perhaps to blame but only in an abstract sense. In the end all that is left is a waste of life and the unheard suffering of a dying man.
0 likesWhy was this video posted a year ago, but the what pretending to be crazy look's like was posted a month ago and majority of viewer's reference that one as the one that started their binge. I'm confused on how that happened, anyone know?
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The Nikolas Cruz case was far bigger than this one
0 likesMore please
0 likes9:04 that's the worst reload I've ever seen.
0 likesMe: wondering why this video is flagged as offensive to some audiance
7 likesVideo: starts by showing napalm bombing with chill music
Me: "I get it now."
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He didn’t even play the full footage of the standoff between Andy and the officer. The sounds that come out that guy as takes rounds and realizes he’s going to die are legitimately harrowing. That much probably would’ve kept him from being able to post it at all though.
1 likeIf you want more JCS videos you can subscribe to his Patreon for as little as $1 a month. His Patreon name is Jim C. Swim.
0 likesI realized what this video was about as soon as I heard the officer's name
0 likesHe committed this crime the day before I was born
0 likesOur poor vets. I wish my stolen tax would at least fund their housing and therapy and meds. Fuck.
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Instead it goes to funding Israel
1 likefuck this made me cry at so many points.
1 likeI wasn't very interested in the case of Markeith Lloyd but the Andy Brennan case was worth a two hour documentary.
0 likesTalk about jennifer rosenbaum da in georgia intern, law student, running for county commisioner sought out former foster sister and killing her for karma
0 likesDo one about all the innocent Vietnamese people like Andy B murdered "in service of his country" and all that jazz please
2 likesHave you thought of becoming a filmmaker/film editor? Because damn, that intro is something else.
0 likesThey roasted the literal crap outa him SHEEESh
4 likesFirst sociopath: “I’m the first sociopath!”
8 likesSoulja boi: “Maaann stop playing with me boy!”
It's funny that I've seen so many interrogation on this channel and the interrogation was very professional all times but the two black guys I've seen. I'm not American but that's what I've seen. It's funny given their reputation.
0 likesone of the best videos
0 likesI despise defense attorneys. Smh
1 like18:30 ''i know this is off topic.. but my man has an alien face in the back of his head..''
1 likeOnce a Nam Vet, always a Nam Vet! We needed to win that damned war!
0 likeseh, a killer deserves to be kicked in the face, loyd was a pos
1 likeThis video went on a huge tangent
0 likesThe dude kills 2 black ladies (angels) and we are worried about his handcuffs too tight?🙄😳🤮
1 likeLook at that firepower at the start and the war still can't be won. Shows the absolute futility of war and yet leaders still think they can just "have a go" at something the size and complexity of Afghanistan
0 likesMan this intro sequence hits like Gundam Thunderbolt.
0 likes“my only regret is that you’re breathing right now”
3 likesholy shit dude
I needed a fucking lap after this one, holy fucking shit.
2 likesToday he would get a congressional medal
0 likesMan those last words...
0 likesOne of the best intros I’ve seen on a YouTube video
0 likesThat 90 second collage at the beginning of the video is tremendously horrific, and thinking about the fact that war is still real in 2021 is making me sick to the core.
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we’re not in Vietnam anymore my guy
0 likes@TaxEvader420 Well I was thinkin of Syria, as an example. War is still happening and it's still horrible.
0 likesthat intro was weirdly beatiful and satisfying
0 likesOh my god those final words
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The phrasing really makes you think. " Glad to be getting out of this place " , as if he was awaiting this for all those decades. I'm genuinely glad my father was a hippy and draft dodger.
1 likeThis is a very sad story.
0 likes3 mature content warnings must be a good one then
0 likes20:54 did you see that black man get immediately murdered for rushing a police officer? Yeah me either.
0 likesWar is hell. This is not an overstatement. The things our veterans endure are beyond the imagination of the average citizen. These men not only need, but deserve, the highest and best and most diligent physical and mental healthcare when they come home. I fully believe we need to implement systems that alert medical and mental health professionals, anytime someone does not pick up or refill a psychotropic medication, so they can do a home welfare check ASAP. Sending these people out into the community and hoping they will remember to take their medications, is a horrible way to function.
0 likesi actually cried at the end of this video
0 likes"the case of andy b" is not at all about andy b
1 like3:07 sounds like Robert Downey Jr in Tropic thunder. Lol
0 likes'prejudice against him'
0 likes..? no shit he's a two time murderer. i'm sick of this humanizing of confirmed killers. he didn't deserve medical treatment or his life
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keith or whatever not andrew
0 likesYo, you didnt have to do this to me. 😭
0 likesi dont support what he did, but how dare those officers do that. the prosecutor failed and justice failed. punishment is handed down by the court. not taken into your own hands
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“I don’t support what he did, but I support not punishing him in any way!”
0 likesI’ve officially watched all his videos... what now
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don't even bother trying to find similar channels. jcs is just on another level. the rest is just kids commenting over footage while here we get indepth analysis about humans and society
1 like@Bastyy we’ll just have to wait for another video!
0 likesThey stole this story for the plot of the blair witch video game
1 likeI just got asked three times if I wanna see this. Yes, YouTube. I do. I don't care about guidelines
0 likesAmerican police truly are absolutely awful. We see it again and again. How many true crime shows where it takes 10 years and a call from an informant and they actually allow themselves to be filmed as pasr of the show like they are proud that they got a call to tell them who did it.
1 likeAmerica films ( and releases) much more than they should. The rest of the world is embarrassed for them
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@TUBBY yes. I forgot about the education. Thats shit as well
0 likesthat intro is kinda terrifying
0 likesWhen I read americans on the comments saying "oh, our soldiers died on vietnam, how sad" for me that's relatable with the selfishness of some of the murderers that are only sad when they are going to suffer consequence, but not for the victim. I mean of course the soldiers, yeah, but US are the offencers! Vietnamese people are the victims!!!!!!!!!!! Can you AT LEAST include them in your sorrow?! Can you PLEASE start to care about the harm your government causes to other countries, other people?!
5 likesle dio un tremendo trigger y detonó un flashback seguramente
0 likes17:33 don’t compare dogs to that piece of shit :(
1 likeThe pregnant woman then cop killer deserved worse treatment. I'm not going to feel bad because he got his feelings hurt. He's still alive, he took 3 innocent lives with no mercy, no pity, he deserves NONE
2 likesDon't police usually shoot as soon as a suspect walks toward them or doesn't comply to orders? Especially unharmed suspects? This dude was armed.
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Yeah police typically do, when the suspect is black
1 likeAwesome intro
0 likesI’m gonna here that opening song in my nightmares tonight
0 likesThe white privilege is so real...dude was walking around flailing his hands walked up on the cop even got his gun out smh
0 likesSurvivors Guilt on Steroids.
0 likesR.I.P
1 likeYou deserve the the respect of a stray dog …😱😱😱damb!!!!!!
1 likeLove your content my dude. Im Looking forward to watching this, keep up the good work
10 likesI’m sorry man, but I can’t finish the Andy B. footage at the end. The officer displayed great patience but the minute he went back to his truck and opened the door he should have been pumped full of lead. I already know the outcome and clearly the officer just simply missed his chance… but at the end of the day that’s a you or me example and I’m always going to pick me.
4 likesThis video hit extra hard as I see it right after I saw the movie: Brothers
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if you want more of that, watch the movie "man down".. I really liked it, same topic
1 likeThank you for having enough class to cut the last video short, found your content last weekend and I've binge watched all your videos. Contrarly to trashy shows like crime watch where it feels like they're gleefully enjoying the drama, you actually analyze and make it very interesting and instructive so thank you for that!
4 likesAddicted to this fellows voice. This is the last video that I see up on his home site and I’m raging that there are no more to see now. He has a brilliant narration style. Love it! Looking forward to lots more!
3 likesthis video is the most underrated EVER on this chanel
0 likesWow... just wow..
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of this place” mans was hurting :(
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He had a part of him that was capable and willing to kill, and it got him through war. It brutalized him though as it insisted on coming back into the open once he was home, and finally it claimed an innocent person that he couldn't compartmentalize as "Just Another Faceless VC." He probably saw the man's name, family, and face in his mind every moment he was lucid after the fact.
12 likesIf someone has to die from the state, he's probably the ideal unfortunately.
Well politicians who sent kids to those wars should be the one who sent to jail because there are causing all the harm to everyone and to both of sides.
30 likesthis is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
9 likesI cried a bit...
0 likesYeah that hit differently
0 likesIs his dad is Ed Oneill?
0 likesAlso just saying majority of this vid was actually about the black dude the title should be renamed 🤣🤣🤣
0 likescan someone please upload this on not listed so i can watch this without this fcking bs youtube verification thing
1 likeMy stepdad was in the war and when he would trip out I would sneak me and my little brother out the window in the middle of the night and run get help for my mom. The beatings and mental snaps got so bad that I ran away at 8 years old. I got so many horror stories of him ... War is horrible
13 likesAs the great George Carlin once said, “The pain is completely buried under jargon, “Post-traumatic stress disorder.” I betcha if we kept calling it “Shell Shocked,” some of those Vietnam veterans might’ve gotten the attention they needed at the time.”
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It's just a lack of empathy
1 likeI guess, but most people with PTSD aren't soldiers. PTSD is a more accurate description than shell-shocked.
1 likeWE NEED A SEE OJ SIMPSONS CASE
0 likesSorry, Markeith Lloyd can wait for his handcuffs to be loosened.
0 likesPossibly one of the best videoes you have done. Excellent work.
3 likesHonestly that black guy deserve everything he got he deserves worse
1 likeWhen YouTube has to make sure you know what your clicking on twice, you know it’s gonna be a messed up one
0 likesJust watched Officer Kyle's footage. Sent chills down my spine. May both of them rest in peace.
4 likesThis is an especially sad story, and deserves far more views than it has. It's a startling reflection on our failings as a society, and how those failings tarnish the US system of justice.
3 likesThat shit was sad
0 likesRIP
0 likesWe say we owe our lives to Vets but then treat them as invisible as dust when they come home. I can’t imagine, wouldn’t want to, and won’t be able to imagine the horror and violence of war. Americans don’t have an concept of war. I mean, all of those news stories about Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, hearing words like “bombs” “air raids”, i’m sure most of the casualties were civilians.
0 likesThat video broke my heart.. you could hear the fear in the officers voice and you can feel that he doesn’t want to shoot him.. what a beautiful soul..
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And that means one less good souls amongst the cops. They cant afford to loose even one.
2 likesI somehow skipped this one. Last video as of today on this channel
0 likesthe amount that chick talks im honestly not surprised my dude capped her up. jfc
0 likesI’m almost 77... Hearing Soldierv Boy again gave me chills... I lived through that awful time.
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♥️
4 likesBless you.
2 likesAny 76 year old who's on YouTube watching the JCS channel has got to be pretty damn cool.
22 likesHope you're doing well..
Ur awesome for being on this channel
0 likesI hope you’re doing good. sending love and compassion
0 likesDude, you need to do more videos. Your productions and narration are top notch! BRAVO!!
7 likesJCS THESE ARE AMAZING MATE
0 likesThis is one of the best quality channels on YouTube and let me just say the narrorators voice is so legit and validating It just has to be a hired actor. If its the creator's voice well, then I am further impressed.
6 likesWhat a chequered past The US and before it France have..
0 likes"War is one great bitch that grows in size..."
0 likesThis is the single greatest YouTube channel to ever have been created. I love you JCS.
18 likesWhen he plays a sentimental love song at the beginning, you know it's going to be a tale of horrific abuse. Posted this before watching but I've just seen the War Machine one.
69 likesHis dog was Moses and he loves that baby
0 likes“I’m glad to be getting out of here” wow I mean that is so powerful. The impact of warfare on the human mind is devastating. He felt trapped in his head.
7 likesMade me think back to the hangman's monologue from the movie "the hateful eight" about the differences between vigilante justice ie lynching someone and the hangman hanging someone. Both have the same outcome but the difference being the unfeeling nature of the hangman becasue it is just his job and how that is the essence of justice.
16 likesMurderer: *murders multiple people*
39 likesThe media: WHY DID THE COPS KICK HIM IN THE HEAD OMG
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People fail to realize that police officers are people. These ones are people who just lost a comrade. When faced with a suspect that not only murdered a pregnant women but also murdered their fellow police officer, I can see how things got out of hand. However, he deserved to get kicked more than once.
1 like@The Silenced lmao your like “don’t like it? Tough.” Like what are you gonna do about it lmao
1 like@Jerome B The question is, what are YOU going to do about it? I sure hope it's, "Grow up and learn that life isn't fair" instead of "try to pick fights online with people who couldn't give a shit about you."
0 likesI didn't see any negligence in Markeith's arrest or interrogation at all. I think the cops actually showed a lot of resilience. Me personally, I would've put the dog down.
0 likes15:35 - detective "in 2 days you'll be fine."
13 likesYeah, permanently blind in one eye and on his way to a life sentence or death row is perfectly fine.
If you want to really get angry with the mishandling of justice, search Chris Dorner. Former marine and LAPD fired for not looking the other way on a partner cop kicking a innocent uninvolved citizen. This ultimately lead chris to a shootout with LAPD when he couldn't get his job back. It's a horrible story, but one that should be highlighted a lot more than it was.
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RIP to Chris Dorner. A real human being
1 likeHe killed a pregnant woman and an officer. Although the way he was handled was completely unprofessional.
3 likesI enjoyed the officers roasting marquith. Would have been better if the others didn’t beat the crap out of him though.... deserved it, but terrible policing.
2 likesOf course the helicopter cameraman moved it so fast once the beating started, can't incriminate your fellow officer with video footage.
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I noticed that shit too.
0 likesWhen the world is in flames...
803 likesOnly Jim can save us
But he also can't swim so idk
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No flames here
7 likesAs long as we arent underwater Jim can save us
20 likesSo just stay above ground,,, then you know he's got your back.
0 likesThe USA isn't the world. LOL I know a lot of Americans think it is haha
2 likesU.S is not the world. Yall so brainwashed by your media you sometimes forget there are 200+ countries that makes up the world.
3 likesIf the world is in flames, I'd assume theres little water for Jim to fret over! 😅
1 likeTook a break from watching batgirl huh?
1 like.....so he teams up with Aquaman, maybe?
1 likeRofhiwa Tshikonelo To be fair, everywhere is suffering from Covid 19, Ebola is coming back, there are still riots in Hong Kong, people are still trying to recover from when Australia was literally on fire. I think your salt is a little misguided sir.
0 likes@Rofhiwa there is not 200+ countries in the world
0 likesAs long as it isn’t a sea of fire, it’ll be ok.
0 likes@SvobodovaEva There are 197 according to the UN. Close enough.
1 like@barefoot arizona apparently not. 😅
0 likesdamm didn't expect too see you here
0 likesIdk why people needed to respond “Americans forget that they aren’t the world.” There was nothing saying that, you made that connection all by yourself.
0 likesThe Amazon was on fire; the Notre Dame was on fire; Australia was on fire. Is it a coincidence that you’d have to swim to said places?
All I’m saying is that if Jim could swim, there would be no more fire, period.
I'm glad what's his face lost an eye. He had that and so much more coming for murdering that woman and THEIR baby and the officer. He only tried women, he's a clown.
2 likesAs for the primary video, I had seen ans heard a little about the back story, but JCS told me so much more than any other channel. Top tier work 🤌🏽
Holy hell that witness looks traumatized Jesus christ
370 likes"the police showed bias bcuz my client took the life of an officer" could be the most solid defense i have yet heard
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Only if you can prove that bias took place
0 likesthe hard part is that the defense has to prove something never a good idea. (The defense doesn’t have to prove their client didn’t do it the prosecution has to prove he did it)
6 likes@Seemo Le Beats that one is all on the cops honestly. if they just kept their hands to themselves and did their actual job then he woulda actually got the death penalty.
6 likes@Ckopen well the problem I have is the guy who killed his wife was never getting the death penalty after what the cops did. The vet on the other hand I just can’t understand how any jury in America can’t understand this. It’s amazing how people who risked their lives for a war that was pointless and came home to why do you have ptsd what’s wrong with you I personally really am thankful for every vet and hope in the future this doesn’t happen again. The reason it’s so bad to me is no one ever asked why he did it because if they did HE HAS A MENTAL ILLNESS would’ve came up so not only did those 12 people but the legal system failed him
1 like@Jade Lee yea I see it wasn’t talked about evenly but his lawyer should have stressed the question of why was this crime committed just as the prosecution stressed the video evidence
0 likesWtf was that Samuel Jackson at 3:08 💀💀😭😭
0 likesI truly feel bad for this man. He can't catch a break. Saw most everyone he loved die. Guy never had a chance
4 likesThe entire video of Andy B murdering the officer was presented to us in a training video so long ago. I'll never forget the harrowing screams of the officer, and then the sudden silence after Andy fired the final round.
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stories like this will keep happen politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme alot of it.
3 likesPopped em
0 likes“bruh y’all just beat my ass”
717 likesliterally unloads a weapon into his pregnant girlfriend and then into an already dead police officer
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All you had to do was look at him to know he's not worth two cents. He got off lucky.
62 likesAnd the American Criminal justice system let that man live But the other Vietnam vet With ptsd and other severe mental issues was sentenced capital punishment... Both situations are just.. I dont know, crazy.
113 likes@Andrew Wall Markeith hasn't gotten off yet--his trial for killing the officer is later this year and he faces a potential death penalty for it.
32 likesLet my homie go he aint done nothing lol smh
8 likes@Based User their homie:
21 likesDid dylan roof get the same treatment
7 likesyes, unnecessary violence is bad, even when the police do it.
45 likes@poochyena i’m not saying police brutality is good whatsoever, but the fact that he’s complaining about a swollen face and a couple cuts, when he quite literally, mag dumped his girlfriend, then a few days later kills a cop and magdumps her already dead and mutilated corpse. so, i don’t believe he is in any place to be complaining. never said it was good. stop assuming the way people think on the internet, you’ll get yourself in trouble with someone some day.
53 likes@poochyena my bad, PREGNANT girlfriend
12 likes@Silas R There is no excuse for the government to harm a civilian who poses no immediate threat and has not been found guilty of a crime through a fair trial.
41 likesThat's what really pissed me off. Yeah, killing people is one of the most wrong things to do, but I think Andy shouldn't have gotten the death penalty, and the other guy definitely should have. The war vet at least did something with his life, regardless of how tragic it was. He did something for someone I'm sure. That doesn't give him the excuse to take life willy nilly though, and he definitely deserved to be locked away for at least several decades. The other guy however, blatantly had no respect for anyone, had shot his gf killing his baby and his girlfriend, shooting her brother trying to kill him, and then kills a police officer and continues to shoot her lifeless corpse just to make sure she was dead. Then cries when he is kicked in the face and treated like shit by the same officers that he would likely kill if he had the opportunity. Yeah, he definitely should have gotten the death sentence.
15 likesIf you beat up a scumbag just for your own pleasure and sense of justice you have no moral nigh ground over a scumbag.
20 likes@FlymanMS The fact you decide to show him sympathy instead of the real victims is just mind boggling to me. Like actually crazy. I'm pretty sure understanding quantum physics is easier for me than rationalizing giving a serial killer sympathy for being beat up.
25 likes@PushinP That’s not showing sympathy, that’s just basic human decency. We don’t live in an “eye for an eye” society. Obviously this guy committed heinous crimes and there’s no excuse for it. However, the police are not there to carry out the punishment. That is the job of the judicial system. If he was resisting arrest, the police are allowed to use extra force to subdue; kicking him till he becomes permanently blind in one eye is straight-up assault.
38 likes@PushinP god you speak nothing but facts you are a beautiful soul
12 likes@PushinP you failed to understand what people are saying. Grow up and become more mature.
26 likes@PushinP A) No, that's not "literally what I'm doing." If it was ok for the police to do that he would be sitting on death row right now, as explained in the video. Even if something is deserved or justified doesn't mean it is right, legally or morally. B) We can disagree but you don't have to disrespect me. We're just having a debate. I don't agree with your opinion but I can understand where you're coming from and I respect what you have to say. All things considered, I do agree that this dude is a POS and the outcome is fucked. I just prefer his justice to come via the legal system and his fellow inmates. It's a slippery slope when police get involved (as evident by this case and many more).
20 likes@Soleil getting kicked in the face is definitely not equal to murder.
8 likes@PushinP it’s so easy to say this shit behind a screen. If I get taken in innocent and get the shit beat out of me because they “know” I did it then that’s one helluva “I deserved it” moment I guess. Yeah he did subhuman, unspeakable things but as soon as one guy gets his beat down and nothing happens because of it, everyone gets the beat down. Look at literally any sort of race based police brutality in the past year
10 likes@lucas sommers This was actually a way better argument than anyone else has presented me btw. Yeah, I would highly condemn the actions of the police officers if there was any doubt that he was the one who did it. But there is ABSOLUTELY no doubt in anyone's mind that he was the one who did it. Even he admitted it.
1 like@lucas sommers hypocrite. Police is human and they are bound to have emotion. That's how human works. Easy for you to say when you have a peaceful life and not having to see your comrade dies. So police cant have emotion but a soldier with ptsd can? How do you know that the officers in years of contacting criminal doesnt have their own mental illness?
2 likes@PushinP there is no such thing as a black and white scenerio
3 likes@taco stains So would you argue that there was some justification in what the Nazi's did in World War 2? How about the Japanese?
1 like@PushinP not all did it willingly. Some forced. Some forced to answer the call by their families and had to leave the states to join for example. Not everything is black and white. There was a German colonel who was executed for plotting Hitler's assassination. Do better man. Stop having a narrow viewpoint. Germany and japan also forced people from other countries to fight for them. Like koreans being forced to fight for germany. Captured pow's forced to fight for either germany or japan. Not everything is black and white.
3 likes@taco stains listen, I’m not reading your entire thing because the thing you bring up literally hurts your argument. Yes, some German soldiers were forced to fight. EVEN MORE REASON FOR THE ALLIES TO INVADE GERMANY!
1 likeLike at least bring up something good Hitler did like re-stabilizing Germany’s economy or something. Don’t bring up something that hurts your argument.
@taco stains literally not continuing this conversation. When you continuously move the goal post and walk back your points then yeah, argument is easy as won. The thing is, from a military and political perspective, it was a very simple Axis=Bad scenario. You won’t make arguments baking up Hitler because you have a moral dilemma that I’ve presented to you there, and that in itself should prove you wrong
2 likes@PushinP I never moved the goal post. You are just building a strawman because you've been proven wrong about things being black and white. You brought up Germany and Japan. I brought up how a german colonel who plotted his assassination. Are you really trying to imply that trying to kill hitler is bad? What, you love hitler or something?
3 likesAt this point, you're straight up projecting about moving the goal posts.
Nice try, tho. I find nazis pathetic, but I'm not going to ignore those unfortunate from other countries who got invaded and then forced to fight.
@taco stains so, you saying countries were invaded and forced to fight is a counter argument to your argument and you don’t even understand it. You saying that there is no black and white and me asking you what the Nazi’s did that wasn’t black and white is basically me asking you what the Nazi’s did in the context of WW2 that was good. You then bringing up something that the Axis forces did that was negative, such as invading countries and using the POWs as their own prisoners. (which was actually portrayed in Saving Private Ryan) I’m just confused what you think your argument is, and please explain how my counter arguments are weak. Because it just seems to me like you’re lost and don’t know what words are.
0 likes@PushinP saying people from invaded countries being forced to fight helps my argument. It proves that not everything is black and white. You are saying people fighting in the German military at that time are all to be painted as nazis when that's not accurate. This is why your counter is so weak because it shows a great lack of reading comprehension on your side. Like I said, there is no such thing as black and white. We live in a grey world.
1 like@PushinP the in h u m an e e x pe r i m e n t s t h e j a pa n es e performed on c hi n e s e and other c a p t ur e d people, helped advance medical science like how to treat diseases like malaria, dysentery and others foreign diseases to americans and europeans.
1 like@PushinP I apologize for having to type in such a dumb way, but it's the only way it allows me to get around YouTube deleting the comment over and over again.
1 like@PushinP G e r m a n s g a v e us advancements in tech. So no, you can paint everything they did in a black and white picture. Try again
1 like@taco stains That is DEFINITELY not my argument. See this is why I just dont think you're capable of having a conversation. My argument is that there is almost nothing the Nazi's did as a governmental body that can be considered good during World War II. I am fully aware that conscription forced lots of German civilians into the fight (Which conscription was introduced in almost every single country at the time of World War II) and they used POW's to increase their military power. These are things that I am fully aware that the Nazi's did in World War II, and my argument is 100% not what you think it is. You dont say how your argument helps you at all, because it actually helps my argument. Clearly my reading comprehension skills are not being tested here.
0 likesI also just wanted to say that me saying, "Nazis" instead of "The Germans" actually further goes to prove that I am not overgeneralizing when it comes to the average German soldier. I am actually ethnically German so I try my absolute hardest to not do that.
@PushinP oh now you switch it to government body. The government body funded experiments that advanced science. Proving my point not everything is black and white. Try again. Stop projecting about not understanding arguments because its obvious you dont understand yours.
1 like@Silas R You're not saying it's good but you're sure as hell not condemning it, even if not explicitly.
0 likes@Assassin "All you had to do was look at him to know he's not worth two cents." Anyone who says this sentence is not worth two cents.
0 likes@Wegner You're absolutely right, because I'm worth well over 6 figures. Great observation.
1 like@PushinP im on your side, im glad that they beat his ass and wish he would get permanently blinded on both eyes for sure
1 likeI think if policer officer where wearing heavyer bullet proof armor ( bullet proof shoulder guard, bullet proof helmet, bullet proof leg guards ) then she might be alive today.
1 likeThe fact they beat him literally saved his life. How can you defend this?
1 like@My Playlist see i really like this comment because you talk about what needs to happen, REFORM, not abolition, not hate, not defunding, nothing but trying to make the system better.
1 like@Silas R Thank you
2 likes@dismiss yourself honestly if there's overwhelming evidence. that shows a man killing his pregnant girlfriend and a cop, with no remorse or care. The cops being really mean to the dude and roughing him up a little. shouldn't influence the jury to give him a lesser sentence. The fact that the jury didn't give him the death sentence, because the cops treated him poorly. Shows how corrupt and flawed are judicial system is. the only thing that should have been talked about in that trial. was the murdering of his pregnant girlfriend and the cold-blooded killing of that officer and the fact that he had no remorse for or care. Not some b***** attempt to turn the killer into a victim like they did. I mean what is that.
0 likesIt’s some serious shit if YouTube asks you to confirm.
1 likeAs for Andrew… poor situation but let me say this, if he was black the cop would’ve been shot him before he even had the chance!
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Did you even watch the video? The black dude who killed three people didn't get the death sentence, the white Vietnam vet did for killing one person. Cute race card.
1 likeYou should have mentioned the girlfriend's masked plea for help when she's trying to smile complaining about her BF's reckless behaviour... her eyes going to the side for a split second twice but each time the smile suddenly disappears and her expression is of that of real fear and terror. Anyone noticed that?
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Yes
0 likesDamn.. idk what else to say..
1 likeSeen it on horror story's YouTube first
0 likesWow. I'm so grateful so have stumbled upon such an amazing channel. What a well put together video.
3 likesOkay but they did not need to kick him in the face that is just way too much. Man was CRAWLING.
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Yall can hate on this, just remember where does it stop when it begins. Say your false accused what if someone kicked you in the face several times on the ground. Murderer or not these cops got away with beating the hell out of that man
1 likeI remember seeing that clip of a police getting shot dead many years ago. The officers screams chilled me and is absolutely horrifying. I don't recommend anyone checking the full video out. It's too real.
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no, that's why you SHOULD see it
1 like@Zakanater 19 No thanks, I don't also want PTSD.
0 likes@MoogieSRO shaking my head at you
0 likesYouTube:
2 likes"Horrible woman obviously killed her 2 year old daughter and walks free"
I sleep
"The story of three man committing heinous crimes because of the trauma inflicted by the toll of serving their country"
REAL SHIT
That isn't even the full clip. The ending is way fucked up.
0 likesThe cost of war
0 likes😭😢
0 likesGuys this is what politicians do to people.
0 likesHe only wanted his toys back.
0 likesWhy the hell did the cop LET him do that. Okay I'm gonna sit here and yell "get back now!" And watch you assemble your m1 carbine and load it and then shoot me with it
1 likeDo SOMETHING man. He's obviously not going to listen to your commands
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He just didn't want to kill anyone, he understood that he was mentally ill and thought he could make things better and save him.
0 likes@Bearcat Ben yes. I understand he didn't want to kill him, I don't think most people would want to
0 likesBut it's not about what you want. It's about what you need
And that officer NEEDED to do something different. Cuz now he's dead
@Seth Johns I explained why he couldn't do what he needed to do to save his life because he thought he would be able to defuse the situation and help someone with mental illness
0 likesYouTube, this is how you can Do Good in this world. This is how you can be something Important. Pay attention to this.
0 likesThis is the same country that a lot of people want to move into? No thanks.
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Send that sentiment to Central America. The dollars fucked, don’t come up here you’re making things worse for everyone
0 likesReal life Rambo
0 likesYou are completely right in saying the video emits an emotional response, but in all honesty, it allows us to understand the aspect of the shooting opposed to being verbally told about it briefly, as I am sure the defense would have liked to keep as many details out of the final statement as possible. That video truly makes my blood boil. To you, Andrew B, I say rot in hell.
1 likeI was traumatized by the final video when I first saw it. I’ve seen plenty of crazy footage but nothing ever hurt my psyche more than hearing that poor mans voice before he died. I’m glad you guys didn’t show that whole video. I really didn’t want to hear that again.
0 likesI could only imagine how everyone involved must have and continues to feel to this day. Tragic is an understatement.
Dude of all interrogation, thought processes and more. You have far more incite and pull the sense of interest leaving us wanting to see more of your videos. Please keep it up.
0 likesI watched that last video of the cop shooting several years ago and I was scarred. Truly horrific. But now knowing the context of Andy B’s life, i don’t think I can form an opinion. The video is horrifying Bc of the screaming and imagery we see as regular citizens. But if that was horrifying, imagine what Andy B saw while serving for the US in Vietnam.
5 likesAssuming they don't, I think recruiters should share this story and other similar stories to kids thinking about joining the military to let them know some of the negative sides to serving. They inform people with positive effects so it's only fair to tell them the negatives. Especially at times of war.
3 likesomg. i remember taking a communications class in school and my teacher showed us the clip of brennan ( the one towards the end, the police video where he was dancing) but without any sort of context . i don’t remember much about her lesson unfortunately, or why the video was part of it but that was the first time i had seen it. just seeing everything and why it happened the way it did here in this video makes my initial perspective totally different from mine now just having finished watching this. i don’t know what to say except i feel some sort of clarity now 😟
0 likesInsanely well-structured video. When it switches to talking about the Markeith case, I was thrown, but damn if he didn't take it right back at the end. Gave me chills. Well done.
1 likeOh no... I didn't recognize the name, but I'm kind of glad I checked google for some background first because I know the video they're talking about and it really is disturbing as anything you'll ever see. In my opinion, it's frequent use in police training is a major factor in why they get some aggressive so quickly for any and every reason. It's less surprising how insane they behave when their operating framework is this absolutely nightmarish scenario.
3 likesThe Army does the overwhelming majority of ground, house-to-house, fighting but the Marines get all the camera time. People don’t realize how much smaller the USMC is and that they make up a very small portion of ground troops.
5 likesI’ve done two tours as an infantry team leader and am also 100% service connected disabled for PTSD.
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I served with the grunts as a navy Corpsman .
1 likeYep another world of crazy
Thank you for your service. I'm so sorry to hear you're suffering, and I and America thank you. <3
1 likeJCS is such a high quality channel. The editing, voice over and research are freakin amazinggggg. So happy youtube recommended this channel
0 likesSo andy b gets death penalty but the pregnant wife and cop killer gets life?!
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Cops, citizens and soldiers are all fujed by the system
27 likes@d G cops are the most coddled by the system, while veterans and citizens are treated lower than them
179 likesThats exactly the point the video makes. The interrogation footage saved the criminal, that if people would have only heard about mistreatment by the police would not have been impacted as opposed to seeing the guy beg for medical attention. On the vet side, the dash cam footage was so damning that it afforded him the death penalty.
167 likeswhole point of the video flew over this guy's head
65 likes@Wynn Wynn this definitely ain't about gender lol watch the video again so you could understand it
30 likesPart of the point of the video was that the jury was made EXTREMELY repeatedly aware of the mitigating circumstances, coupled with police brutality (whether he deserved the beating or not is irrelevant). And it added up to him getting to keep his life. If the police hadn't beaten him so badly as revenge (a beating that was evidenced with injuries on camera) he might've been viewed as more of a monster, less of a victim, and given the death penalty.
25 likesI don't wanna sound aggro or like I'm belittling, but that was a huge point of the video you missed. I thought the comparison of differences between the cases was the entire point...?
@Supreme Buffalo The point of the video is that film influences juries to such a degree that a serial woman killer's life can be spared while a mentally ill Vietnam vet is sentenced to death. Had film evidence been absent, the reverse would have happened. That was the point.
33 likes@Xaro Xhoan Daxos You're paraphrasing my point. It reads like you're correcting me, but no.
4 likesYou see that part where I said
"...jury was made extremely repeatedly aware of the mitigating circumstances"
I was talking about the same film footage as you... I know I only spoke of the beating, but the aftermath was recorded.
My bad. I assumed people could connect those 2 dots themselves. I didn't spell it out. I'm sorry. I'll be more careful in future, I promise!🔮
Damn Jjjjeeewwttuuubbee wont let me comment my post cuz i mentioned btk and manson , gooo roothhhaschhilldd
0 likes@jonathan bell how?
0 likes@Supreme Buffalo For what it's worth I understood your point perfectly and I agree. I think maybe the other person simply replied to the wrong comment.
5 likesHe got life for the preg girlfriend, he goes to trial for the officer in october of this year
2 likes@Krabbenburger you have a point, its easier to assume stupidity is the driving force behind any incorrect action 🤣 better than it being intentionally misguided, anyway.
0 likes@Wynn Wynn that’s not the point. The different outcomes were not due to gender differences, but what was shown by video caught of the suspects actions. I am nearly 100% sure that if video was instead shot of the man killing the woman officer then he would have a much harsher sentence
2 likesIdk if that's you in the profile pic, but you look creepy as hell 💀
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0 likesHe said in the video "video footage speaks volumes.."
0 likesOne could argue life in prison is a worse fate than death
0 likes@kotsoteka depends ofc, that's why "one could argue" ofc for markeith life in prison is not so good.. for Andy b, prison would've also been bad, because, from his point of view.. he just wanted out, he was just... He wasn't ok, at all, its horrible, if it's PTSD from home abuse or from war, PTSD is PTSD.. and in Andy's case.. it was just horrific what he saw.. he literally saw his leader turn to confetti like...
0 likesDID YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO.. AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW VIDEO EVIDENCE CAN HELP A CASE.. WHETHER YOURE THE DEFENDANT OR THE COMPLAINANT???? look at it again.. especially when they cut to the M. Lloyd case.. sheesh..
0 likesDeath penalty might be the most merciful in Andy’s case
0 likesthis is one of my favourite videos on this channel. I don't know why, it just hits harder than the others. gives a different perspective.
3 likesDamn that ending hits hard... a generation of trauma left to their own devices when it was all said and done. War is hell
3 likesThis was a tough one to stomach. Being a lifetime officer tasked with the safety of an entire agency of officers and an ardent supporter of military troops, it's just painful.
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You have a unique background so i gotta ask, what's your take on these cases?
0 likes@A D This guy knows his stuff. Some of it is just second nature due to the repetitive nature in dealing with these folks, but there's also a lot that can be learned from it. I'm not so dumb as to think I know all there is to know, and I'm not so arrogant as to think we're always right, either.
0 likesI felt sorry for this fella. Severe PTSD was one of his many sufferings....
0 likesYou have an amazing voice for narration. I would listen to you talk about anything!
0 likesThis man could easily get this green lit on Netflix and have one of the best shows on there, but decides to put it on YouTube for free. What a guy
4 likesI'm only 8 mins in and this is one of the saddest stories I've ever heard.
15 likesThis was an incredible video, excellent script very well made
0 likesDamn I can’t believe he went BACK into his car, & the police didn’t do anything. Most times, if they person rushes the police, he at least gets tased. But he rushed him, AND went back & opened his car door & reached inside? & the cop STILL didn’t do anything??
4 likesCrazy man
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Pretty obvious he was trying to suicide by cop. Then was like fuck it and starts unloading. It's a bad situation. Feel bad for both the cop and Andy.
1 likePretty much every police officer is shown this video among others in training.
1 likeCops shooting people reaching for their wallet, phones, or weapons in their car come back to recent training standards
Yea I was thinking the same thing, like RIP but come on bro why’d you even let him fuck around like that
0 likesI remember watching that video awhile back and feeling very upset by how that officer was screaming. Shit was terrible.
3 likescan we talk about how well these videos are made?!?!
2 likesMy grandpa was a Vietnam veteran, and suffered from PTSD. He abused the hell out of my grandma, and probably my dad as a kid/teenager as a result of it (grandpa got pregnant at 16 and dropped out of high school). My parents told me I only ever met him once when I was a newborn, and then he died. I saw a photo of him and my grandma on their wedding day, not knowing it was them, and said "who's this monkey looking man in the suit?". My parent's/grandma don't really talk much about him, so I have no idea who he actually is.
0 likesCan we nominate this dude for an Emmy? This is the best shit I've seen in years.
6 likesI actually got really upset about that one female officer. Feels bad man
1 likeI’m in tears, we really fail our vets.
0 likesAndy lived a tough life. No human would be sane again after getting back from war then slowly losing everybody he knows. The government expected that the veterans would be normal the next day they went back to society. This is a sad story
0 likesFootage of Andrew being pulled over literally breakes my heart
7 likesMan, ive watched all your videos within a week or two. Good stuff!
0 likesI'm enjoying seeing all of this channel's videos. This is one, is the most sad I watched. Three people dead. Two for no reason and one was just doing her job. This world sucks! Thx for the vid anyway !
0 likesThis is so tragic... sadder than 90% of the movies I've seen
0 likesThe American War against the Indochinese people was horrifying and a waste of lives and money... Rest in peace to the thousands of dead Americans, and the millions of Indochinese who died and who still die from all the undetonated bombs to this day.
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What?
7 likes@Crash The Con you slow?
10 likes@yuhyuh yuh
3 likes@Crash The Con yuh
0 likesMore than just thousands. The South Vietnamese who allied with us lost 200,000 to 250,000 lives because of the Soviets and North Vietnamese. If it weren't for France and Russia, most of the lives lost there would still be here today or at least lasted longer. France started the first Indochina War which led to the Second Indochina War (Vietnam) just so they could keep their colonies that ended up going away anyway. Russia invaded Vietnam and helped start an invasion towards the South, which led to the rest of Indochina being feared to become Communist which further led to US involvement towards stopping that. Overall it was the faults of many, not just the US. The US wasn't even fully involved until around a decade in.
21 likesIt was South Vietnam, not American war
0 likes@Lord Rat Hut those people were still vietnamese, that's why they said millions.
0 likesThis is just...tragic. Usually I have little to no sympathy for the people features in these. Maybe a little bit for that guy in the one video who got pushed to the ground and then shot...but for the rest of them, no.
0 likesIn this case, my god, this guy was crazy AF and he even had sought help. I feel for everyone involved - the victim, the perpetrator, the families. What an awful, awful event.
this content is more entertaining than most modern media.
1 likeEasily the best video Ive seen in YouTube in some time. Great job
0 likesThis is exactly why you can’t assume someone’s mental well-being or assume everyone is neuro typical it’s beyond heartbreaking RIP Andy I hope you’re at peace now 💔
2 likesWhat a sad video, it was clear he needed tons of help and no one really listened
0 likesOne of the best ones. So we’ll done. This is extremely high quality content. I’m hooked.
1 likeWent down the rabbit hole on this channel and somehow saved this till the end. Might be the best video in this channel. So sad all around.
0 likesThis is a perfect example of why I don't believe in the death penalty.
0 likesWhat a sepulchral tale all round, the soldier was clearly sick, a true victim of war, to that end a venerable character, they commissioned him and taught him how to kill, how do they repay him, ironically they commissioned his death!! What I find equally sad is scrolling through the comments, and people write, and I quote "I have watched all the videos what do I do now" without having given thought or sagacity to what they have just witnessed!!! got to love the human race:)
0 likes13:12 - RULE 1: NEVER ATTACK A POLICE OFFICER !
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13:28 - IMO the cops had every right to do that, the criminal never stop firing at her !
Them feels. Poor guy should've received help long before this went down.
0 likesAndy’s story is a tragedy on every level. But I can’t help but feel he wanted to be at peace in the ground as soon as he returned from the states. PTSD is a fucking bitch.
0 likesThis channel! The criteria and empathy of the creator has grown mine. 💫
2 likesthe footage of atrocities with the juxtaposed music give me the chills every time
4 likesMurders innocent pregnant wife and unborn child Murders one of the truly good cops "You barbarians hit him in the face! Leniency!"
2 likesI’m glad they kicked that guy in the face, I’m glad he went blind in one eye, and I’m glad he was uncomfortable.
1 likeThis video made me feel all types of ways good work
0 likesWe need some new videos, I’ve been watching them non stop and now that I’m running out of videos I feel withdrawal symptoms
0 likesThis one takes some commitment but as a video essay it excels.
0 likesThis is actually my favourite video from this channel and also the last one that I have watched.
1 likeThe bombing comp with the song was awesome. As a vet I loved that part of the video.
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Thank you for your service!
1 like@Cassidy FowlerThank you for being so respectful of my service. I dont deserve it, but I appreciate it.
1 likethat last line hits you like a punch to the gut
0 likesHis last words sent chills
0 likeshe deserved to be beat way worse before going in for interrogation
2 likesI remember seeing a dramatization of the shootout between that officer and war vet.
0 likesGenerally love the content on this channel but this episode was mostly tangents and difficult to follow.
0 likesThis is my last video in my binge of this channel and that is extremely depressing
0 likesthe romantic music with the war imagery is so cinematic and goosebump inducing
8 likesI watch these videos more than I talk to my family- help!
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Me too 😂
1 likeThis is the last JCS video I watched and damn it just might be the saddest one of them all
0 likesJCS cut out the part of the cop screaming 'NO' in panic and gurgling in his own blood
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and when he said something like “die bitch” he was clearly trying to make him look as good as possible, and i think he shouldn’t have been put on death row, but i think the last moments of the altercation probably are why the jury reached ir
0 likes@Sean Korch exactly. Those last moments of footage are extremely intense.
2 likesHowever JCS the man. I have learned SO much from him
Noooo the last JCS video I can binge 😢 Damn that pretending to be insane video really hooked a lot of people, huh
2 likesBeautiful story
0 likesI had to confirm my age 2 times just watch this. You know its gonna be good
1 liketragic for everyone involved :(
0 likesNormaly: TF why does yt wants me to agree twice to watch this video?
19 likesNow: No heroes in this tale bois
im sorry but when the detective said "youre just a bitch in body armor" to lloydthat shit just caught me off guard
1 likeI don't know why I was mildly unsettled seeing that man get beaten up and bullied by cops even though he killed a baby and two women...
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I’m no expert but you can still feel bad for bad people.
1 like@Christian Ramos I guess that's true, just never have really felt that way toward a piece of shit...
1 likeI'm not crying you are crying
0 likeshis last words hit hard
Excuse me he was convicted of first degree?
0 likesPretty sure 2nd degree at best.
The officers told him the truth😂
0 likesDamn we get TWO stories in this video??? Niiiiice
2 likesthank you SO Much for not saying "like and subscribe" in the video... VERY much appreciated.
0 likesDang. I can feel the domonetization through the screen. Like a house fire.
1 likeThose cops interrogating the baby killer are badass.
5 likesThe actual video where they were in the fire fight was so sad
0 likesThis one was genius.
0 likesThis is literally the perfect video as to why you shouldn't join the military
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I thank god everyday for putting that aspiration on the shelf 🙏🏾
5 likesThat deputy was the real life Rod Farva.
0 likesAt 21:54, that cop decides to do his best Seinfeld impression to try to defuse the situation.
0 likesHe was let down by the state. The officer was undertrained and thus: also let down by the state. I could cut the irony with a knife.
3 likesThat was so upsetting.
0 likesThat was a really sad last episode to watch
0 likesLoyd deserved more than a kick. He didn’t give Deborah a chance and shot her over and over while she was on the ground.
0 likesThank god this content is free but honestly I would pay
0 likesHoly shit mans literally dodged a bullet at 23:11
0 likesI woulda blasted Andy when that bobbing and weaving shit started 😅
0 likesAndy: HI HOW IS YOUR DAY GOING !?
24 likesJCS: Stop screaming at me !
Andy: Sorry
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2 likesexistence of Jury in American justice system is afront to justice itself
5 likes18:28 Had a prejudice against him? No shit, he gunned down one of their own.
6 likesOk now that I'm at my last video wath can I do with this addiction ask Jeff to get detained again or wait to see how Casey's day care goes 🙃 I can feel the withdrawals
0 likesWho the fuck WOULDN'T have a prejudice against that dude who shot his girl and baby?
1 likethis video should have more views
0 likesthis monster didn't deserve medical attention.
1 likeabsolutely love that the police officers kicked loyd in the face
0 likesthis one is soul crushing
0 likesThe best part was when the cops blinded him. After taking so many lives, he shouldve gotten more lmao
2 likesI'm not so quick to sympathize with Andy B. Why'd he stop taking meds he clearly needed? I've looked into it myself and heard claims he was stymied from obtaining his meds which could be believable give the shitty state of the VA in those times. However the only real evidence I could find is an incident where he simply stormed out of the pharmacy after getting into an argument with another person in line (not the pharmacist himself) and had a history of repeatedly ignoring/not taking his meds. Sounds to me like he wasn't serious about getting better and sadly someone else paid the price for his nonsense. That said I don't think he should've been put to death and it's screwed up that the jury didn't get to hear the whole story as his medication was never touched upon during the trial.
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Many people go off meds for their mental illness BECAUSE of their mental illness. Medication doesn't magically fix them, and even medicated people sometimes lose the frame of mind to continue taking it due to the debilitating nature of certain disorders. It has nothing to do with "not wanting to get better", and more so to do with them losing the capacity to be rational or reasoned with because they're sick.
0 likesPretty weird on mobile YouTube takes away the share button on some videos. You can still share it by going onto the channel list of all the videos, but can't share the video on the video itself. Thanks youtube
0 likesthey make people fight their imperial wars and then treat them like garbage when they are done with them
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Only a pawn in the game...
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place."
1 likeThis is so good
0 likes9:07 Jesus christ, that was the least smooth reload I've ever seen. Get this officer into a pistol course.
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High stress situation will cause that
1 likeGiven the circumstances and context it's understandable.
0 likesThis suspect was in a police chase and was firing at this officer while driving. The officer then noticed the path he was taking was leading towards an elementary school, so the officer raced behind him and started firing. At one point both were actively shooting each other, the officer windshield shattering spraying glass all over the place. The officer landed a good hit and the suspect crashed head on to that bulding(I think that's the school).
Like, you have the officer in intense adrenaline driving and shooting on suburb streets dodging cars and shooting the suspect. You can find the video posted on YouTube by Las vegas police.
@xM xH I can't think of any high stress situation that would cause someone with training to throw a new mag in their pistol upside down.
0 likesTrying to load it backwards I get because you're not focused on the direction of your magazine, but actively switching to left handed carry when you're a right handed shooter and tilting it forward before trying to finger in a new magazine? Nah, no excuses. That's just dumb as fuck and gonna get you killed.
0 likesThe great piece! fascinating!
0 likesRIP HERO
0 likesim a little scared now. already 10 seconds in, how am i doing guys?
0 likesThe count of war casualties doesn't stop with the war. Additional two here.
0 likesto walk point - to assume the first and most exposed position in a military formation, especially as a leading soldier of a unit advancing through unsecure territory.
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Yep.
0 likesNCO's had a habit of putting POC at point on the regular just so you know.
Im glad to be getting out of this place.
0 likeswhat a creepy ending to these videos lol.
0 likesI just had to confirm 3 times, what the hell happened
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Oh.. yikes
0 likesSo this man killed 3 people (4 if you count the baby) and the lawer said the cops didn't like him? So your telling me this man can kill my your or anyone's mom and no one is going to be mad or angry thats such bullshit. To the lawer how do you feel trying to get a murder get away with everything I bet if he killed someone you loved then I don't think you'll help so much.
0 likesPoor guy. Done in by his own country
0 likesPoor guy. Done in by his own country
0 likesThis one... this one hit different.
0 likesIs it just me or did everyone else keep this one as last?
1 likeI sent a picture of my fucking ID to Google for this one. Hope it's worth it. Edit; it was.
0 likes10:47 - I am only hearing about this now ?, i thought this was be top news !
0 likesGod this was so fucking sad
0 likesWhen coming to the hospital, I was waiting for the "where we are now" á la ChubbyEmu
0 likesWow. I am extremely happy I don't live in that hell hole called USA.
0 likesThis one slaps boys
0 likesYouTube putting us on a watch list for watching this video, dang. Lol
0 likesLmao so everyone else saved the least viewed video for last while binging the entire channel as well huh?
0 likes2:36 it’s not 1969 it’s 1968
0 likesYes, Youtube I am sure I want to watch this video.... Yes, Youtube I am old enough to watch this video.
0 likesThere is no glory in war.
1 likeI video that leaves you with goosebumps
0 likesYet people wonder why Police carry rifles these days. Sometimes, no amount of talking or patience will matter. Sometimes a person can be so far gone and so lost that they will commit to tragedy and there is only one way to stop that. Especially if a person as mentally damaged as that can obtain firearms. Thankfully the vet didn't lose himself like that in a large crowd. Sadly, his own country failed him. Unfortunately these things happen often and good people die as a result. It's sad
2 likes9:05 nice reload bro
0 likesSo sad.
0 likesThis my last video, and I have watch JCS entire channel
0 likesWe shouldn’t have been in that war… America needs to stop being the world police.
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More accurately: America needs to stop being greedy and starting wars with countries out of greed, particularly oil.
2 likes@Space Gay yes
0 likes@Space Gay It's less about oil now, and more about doing strengthening Israel's position in the ME.
1 likeThis is a devastating and tragic representation of the mental health crisis in America that has persisted from the very beginning; catalyzed by bloodshed, warfare, and greed, whilst our government and society only respond with neglect, stigmatization, and incarceration in the luckiest of individuals.
71 likesAt ease soldier, your watch is over. Time for your R and R.
0 likesthere are literally zero true crime videos that are better than yours. i am mesmerized by all of your videos
6 likes9:05 is that a common way to reload?
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Given the circumstances and context it's understandable.
0 likesThis suspect was in a police chase and was firing at this officer while driving. The officer then noticed the path he was taking was leading towards an elementary school, so the officer raced behind him and started firing. At one point both were actively shooting each other, the officer windshield shattering spraying glass all over the place. The officer landed a good hit and the suspect crashed head on to that bulding(I think that's the school).
Like, you have the officer in intense adrenaline driving and shooting on suburb streets dodging cars and shooting the suspect. You can find the video posted on YouTube by Las vegas police.
Dude truly has a talent for these kinds of videos, I’ve never seen such a clean delivery with good intros and outros. Quality Entertainment and Information 👌🏾 you’ve earned another sub my friend
4 likes#1 saddest video on youtube
0 likeswhat a terrible world we live in
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place"
499 likesIf that doesn't tell you everythingg you need to know about how hideous war is, idk what can
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It's sad how he probably meant that literally and metaphorically.
25 likes@Toppy Jones. I would say it's the same, no? consideering the reasons he eended up in death row can be directly trraced to his serving in Vietnam
3 likesI cried at that part
5 likesHow hideous “the world” is...
0 likes@Okay M8 I honestly really doubt it, considering how miserable he was when he was "free"
0 likesWhy would a man like that even be in prison? He belonged in a mental hospital not a correction center
@Okay M8 Considering a functional mental facility puts the well being of its patients as a priority, whereas the american prison complex puts all its emphasis on slave labor, i'd say so, yes
0 likesJim Cant Swim is genuinely one of the greatest channels there is.
7 likeswhat kind of interrogation is that lmao
0 likesI'm glad you cut out the screams of the Sheriff as Andy shot him, that shit would have haunted people who haven't seen it already.
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yeah it f-ing sucks, all these videos where you hear people die suck. Dont google it to anyone out there, aint worth it.
4 likes@Morgus Schmorgus Morbid curiosity is very strong.
0 likesI know…it was horrifying.
0 likesit was horrible but i’ve seen other stuff that made me not wanna sleep for days
0 likes@nick GURR Same, I've watched a lot of really fucked up videos on the internet in my day, but this one is up there only because of that scream. Not sure exactly why but its worse than beheadings for me.
4 likes@incaseofire dude it sounds like you really need to stop watching dark shit online
0 likes@Rebecca Lindsay you're about 15 years too late on that, but thanks
2 likesYeah i can hear it without watching it even having seen it some years ago. Weirdly more memorable then anything i ever saw or watched on bestgore as a morbidly curious teenager
0 likesI live in Orlando, Fl and remember the arrest of Markeith Loyd vividly. A few people were caught driving by cheering while local news stations covered his arrest.
4 likesIt seems unnecessary to kick a man in the face after he had already surrendered. Especially with enough force to permanently damage his eyesight. I definitely think the cops let their emotions get the best of them.
I do believe Markeith is a very disturbed man. He doesn’t seem to understand the magnitude of his actions and how absolutely heinous they were. He also claims in both murders that he’s the true “victim”. Just listening to his reasoning during the Dixon trial makes me believe he’s genuinely delusional, it’s pretty disturbing. He was found guilty for the murder of Sade Dixon and now awaits trial for the murder of Debra Clayton.
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I don't know, I guess without looking into his mind we can't know for sure if he's really not at fault or if he's a monster, but either way I don't think there's a place for him around other people after what he did. Delusional or not he's still clearly shown how dangerous he is and that he can't be trusted to function in society.
1 like"...serving along side them and who in fact conducted the majority of the fighting on that day, was the 23rd Division of the US Army with Alpha company leading the attack and with a single platoon acting as the spear. Taking point for that platoon meaning he would be the first into a firefight was 21 year old...."
47 likesWhatever he did wasn't his fault... it was the US Government's. If you take a young man in his formative years like that and have him lead an entire division into the jungle, you take on the responsibility for what you make of him. Best you give him everything he needs to re-acclimatise to society or you best not send him at all.
This is so horrible and sad. That dude, definitely knew what he was doing
44 likesHere’s the thing, I have absolutely no sympathy to markeith and he deserves his punishment. HOWEVER, we have see on this channel police treat mass shooters and murderers with calm regard bc of their training yet they didn’t do that in his interrogation or arrest which is highly unethical. And the system failed Andy B., he needed help, not the death penalty.
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Right? Like they had so much patience for Nik Cruz but not Markeith
14 likes@Pseudonymph Music wasn’t the same police officer and police department that’s not comparable
13 likesIts because markeith killed their colleague, simple as that, dont you think?
33 likesThey should all be treated worse
4 likes@Askgudtu odydr How about the police treating everyone with respect?
2 likesThat's because he killed one of their friends, not someone they don't know, a kind harmless woman at that, there's not many human beings who have ever lived who could show sympathy to him in those circumstances, I actually thought they treated him well all thi GS considered, they could have really put him through hell if they wanted, even killed him and covered it up
14 likesGood Police will react in a way that’s determined by the threat they’re taking on. Markeith was more of a threat to the police than Cruz. They still messed up in the interrogation by assigning detectives that were emotionally involved.
6 likes@Alex Roy same corrupt system of law
0 likesthank you
0 likesStarted watching this channel with “This Is Jeff” episode. 5 days later this is my final video . I done binge this whole channel in less than a week ! This channel is better than Netflix
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Lol did you see my this is Jeff comment
0 likesHave you seen Jeff's YouTube channel?
0 likestheres a few hidden unlisted ones! Look them up on reddit.
0 likesWe need to get this channel to upload more!
2 likesDamn, exactly the same with me. We have been on a journey together
2 likes@leavetome WHERE ??
0 likes@Hmmodi Look them up yourself, Theyre the Prince Andrew, Jessie Smollett, and Russell Williams.
0 likesThat intro was mesmerising man, truly incredible piece. Wasn’t sure where it was going but glad I stuck around. My favourite of yours personally.
6 likesMarkeith deserved all that
0 likesThis one shook me to the core. I'd seen the video of the officer many years ago, this was the first i learned of the actual back story, in depth. Which not only shows a man severely damaged from PTSD, but also shows the brain washing, the indoctrination, and the actual programming to kill. The meds prescribed only treat symptoms, this programming stripped the actual moral/humanistic traits of this man at a very young age, that never goes away. They created an expendable automaton out of this man. I have no words for either case, as they're both beyond tragic, I'm just rendered speechless from the unnecessary loss of lives, and the suffering of so many that loved them.
6 likesThat has got to be among the most unprofessional interrogations I've ever seen. It's really hard to watch. Considering Lloyd lost sight in his eye, I can't really tell who the monster is in that room.
1 likeHoly fucking shit. It came full circle... my fucking brain
0 likesVietnam truly fucked up some people in some really deep ways. Hearing Andy's story drove this point home more than any movie ever did.
15 likesI found you today - this has been some of the best content I've found on youtube as an adult. Thank you. Once I am able to be a patron, you can bet I'll be signing up.
6 likesI feel bad for miss Debra.... Stop black on black crime. BLM
0 likesThat head movement at 23:08 dodged a head shot from the cop. Didn’t stand a chance.
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Eclectic_1 😳 Wow! Thanks for the time stamp.
2 likesThis is the last dose of JCS videos.
0 likes18:44 Am I the only one who can see a fat, squished Voldemort on the back of this man's head?
1 likeI really need this right now. A brief reprieve from the chaos and division.
185 likesEdit: Maybe I spoke too soon.
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He talks almost exclusively about murderers, what brought them to that point, and details about their crime, what did you expect hehe
23 likesEfence Lmaoooo i didn’t want to laugh at your comment butttt 😂😂😂
1 likeHaha, yeah despite its shorter length, this may be one of the more chaotic and divisive cases he's covered.
1 likei'm finally 18 so this isn't restricted anymore...
0 likesWow. Andy acted against Kyle as if he was taking back on him for not relieving him from his life. I feel sorry for both of them,hope they are some place better...
11 likesdamn. the ending gave me goosebumps. you knocked it out of the park with this video.
6 likesSends their own people to suffer on foreign soil and punish them for coming back insane
24 likesWhat a emberrasment
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They punished him for murdering a cop, what are you talking about?
0 likes@Niall-Julian Watkins that's the thing. A murderer got away with life sentence but an Vietnam war veteran with extreme psychiatric disorders was sentenced to death. He fought for his country but was rewarded with insanity and death for it.
2 likesCool it with the antisemitism
1 like@Chad Thundercock where was i ever antisemitic
0 likes@Niall-Julian Watkins you only watched the first half of the vid have you?
0 likes@Judgmental Crow I understand the poetry of it but I'm not being poetic. He murdered someone and got the consequence of that action. It weighs heavy on my heart as well I'm an army vet who was also a cop so I get it
0 likesI could never thank youtube enough for "“what pretending to be crazy looks like” recommendation.
116 likesStarted from the top, now we here.
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this is the last video i have watched, what really bothers me to the deep of my nervous is the case of casey anthony that killer is free for a crime which the jury were too blind to see the evidances in they are front eyes, there are even a member of jury who said latelly that he regrets letting here go free and she is out there making new interviews with media she is enjoying walking around free for here crime and all the money coming to here from the media there should be part 2 for that case
1 likeHey, is it super super disturbing that gonna make you not eat for a few days? Should i watch this?
0 likesIt is tasteful that Kyle’s scream wasn’t included in this video. That scream is unlike anything I’ve ever heard before. I still shudder thinking about it.
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yeah, my dad told me he screamed after getting shot and i was waiting in suspense to hear him. Glad i didn't because it prob would've ruined my night tbh
57 likes@Layneanikin scheffler don’t ever watch the video. I couldn’t sleep for 3 days literally
40 likesSomeone give the link?
2 likes@Fire Montana How’d it go?
3 likesI was not prepared for that. I feel as though my skim is pretty thick but listening to that brought tears. I understand that cops are not seen in a positive light, but that was one brave man. He tried to give andy so many chances and it cost him life. Do not watch the original. It just hurts.
60 likes@Unpopular To Be Unpopular I walked past a man who was cut in two he was trying to grab me asking for help but we ignored him its late and plus the shelling continued. I was more shocked at how he was still alive. So no the screams of the policer didn't bother me. I have a opinion on why this officer was killed but people will say I'm using the race card.
10 likes@anthony whitney There is a reason you're not supposed to look into it, all cops are evil as we're told
5 likes@abdi libaax watch the last 5 minutes of the video. what they are talking about has nothing to do with race
14 likes@Ramy Camel The comments on that post are upsetting. "Execution was too good for him.", "A total piece of shit.", "Should have killed him sooner."
20 likesIf I had seen that first I may have the same feelings, but knowing the full story blurs the lines. His act was heinous, obviously, but his actions were because of extensive psychological trauma caused by his service. He didn't want to be a malicious human being. He didn't kill that officer because he was a "piece of shit". He killed that officer, because he had severe PTSD.
I didn't watch the video by the way. I've seen some fucked up shit throughout the years, but I don't think I wanna subject myself to that. I watched a dude shoot himself in the head once, saw a guy's head get lopped off by a helicopter, I've seen tons of people fall from high places to their death, I've seen people get hit by trains and cars, and the list goes on. Usually my morbid curiosity gets the better of me and I'll click a link if someones talking about it. But there are 2 videos I haven't watched out of all the things that have been presented to me. 3 guys 1 hammer (two guys murdering a man with a hammer) and this video. And I don't plan on watching either of them.
@grandma police officers treat black men and white men differently. That's why that officer was killed. When they are dealing with a white person they believe they can talk them out of dropping their gun. But a unarmed black men are killed holding a cellphone. Watch the video of the young guy killing a police officer and injuring the other, they had no clue even tho his roommates told 911 he's armed and angry.
32 likes@abdi libaax
44 likesThat is a deliberate misrepresentation of the actual attitudes of police officers in the field and you know it to be.
Police officers are shown videos like this multiple times during their training, and see them pretty constantly in the circles that they frequent, and they know that if they give a suspect too much of an opening while they are armed, it is very possible that they themselves will be shot. It is a personal choice on their end to extend an olive branch and offer the person a chance after they have already drawn a weapon, but in most cases that chance is only offered if there is some form of cover or concealment between the officer and the suspect behind which the officer has taken a position already, and the suspect does not have the weapon already pointed at the officer.
This is why the officer in this video gives the man multiple chances to drop the weapon. The weapon is not pointed at the officer, and the officer has multiple obstructions between himself and the man with the gun. This means that in order for the officer to fire on the man accurately, the man has to stick himself over the truck or move out from behind the truck and present a target, and the officer cannot move forward without a severe risk of death unless this becomes the case. With a single officer on scene, this presents a standstill, stalemate position where neither the officer nor the suspect can move without getting shot. In this position, the only thing that the officer can do is attempt to negotiate with the suspect for the weapon to be dropped.
You have bought into your own political garbage too much to actually think these things through.
@anthony whitney apparently, he had been on some sort of penalty for shooting someone before. that's why he hesitated-- but that's what i heard.
2 likes@kyology_y i understand. If that is true it still doesn't take away his patience. While I disagree with cop hate, i do understand the mindset. If you think about it though, isn't upsetting that he's so afraid to get in trouble he won't defend himself properly? Things are more complex then they seem but both parties are victims.
1 like@BrokenGod Ent. Your right. The way i see it, people always have to go to one extreme or the other. People are more complicated then that though and it's ok to see the sadness in what happened to BOTH of them. On the subject as a young kid i did watch 3 guys 1 hammer. Its awful but it taught me a valuable lesson. There is a clear difference between a criminal of circumstance and a genuinely evil person who enjoys the killing and suffering of others.
0 likes@abdi libaax Ok i mean no disrespect to you but your just plain wrong. It's not police that treat different races better or worse, its the individual. It's not right to generalize all cops that way when each individual has different levels of training or beliefs. There are awful prejudice people everywhere and cops are no exception. You will have your racist cops just like your racist gas station employee. For every one of those, you have 5 more you never hear about because they do the job properly.
4 likes@abdi libaax I was thinking the same thing. And while it's all tragic. He was able to get out of his car, dance around, yell, and actually go back to that car and pull out a weapon because he was white. I know POC wouldn't have had a chance. Not only was he a white man, but he was a white man with a dog. And I know how yt ppl ESPECIALLY feel about their dogs.
5 likesthoughts on other comments: I don't care about whatever previous incident this officer had, when has that ever stopped any of them? Not to mention that he shouldn't have been on duty if he had pending charges against him for his use of force.
If that cop would've just complied he'd still be alive today
2 likes@Ramy Camel I really really REALLY wanna watch it!
0 likesIt’s taking everything out of me not to....is it really that bad??? Is it really that awful?? :(
I have thick skin but I'm thankful it wasn't included. I don't think I could handle it going by what others have described
0 likes@BrokenGod Ent. Maybe I'm being reactionary, but I have no sympathy for a murder like this regardless of mental illness. I'm normally against capital punishment, but a humane execution in this case seems like the best course of action
1 like@Ramy Camel wow I must be horribly desensitized from growing up on the internet in the late 90s and early 00s because that didn't even phase me, and all these comments about being scarred for life.
2 likes@Kubomi same
0 likes@Ramy Camel it's so obvious that the guy is not sane...
1 like@Kain-loc wtf do you want him to do, have a pleasant chat with the lunatic dancing in circles and then holding a fucking rifle in his hands? He has to try to gain control of the situation.
3 likes@c c its more disturbing than anything because theres no blood and they don't the officer actually getting shot. The audio part of the video is truly horrifying as you can literally hear him take his last gulp of air... :(
0 likes@Kubomi damn bro.. thats rough as you can hear him take his last breath of after a fatal shot to the eye
0 likes@c c it’s rlly not that bad
0 likes@c c hi! it is not that bad unless you are heavily influenced by pained screams. they are definitely cringeful (in a spooked 'oh god' way) but weren't as bad as you think. there are two moments where he really does scream in the way explained, so be wary. no gore seen though. just gunshots, car windows shatterting, and screaming from the cop.
0 likes@BrokenGod Ent. I'd agree with empathizing if he pleaded guilty and didn't drag the whole thing for 17 years before it was over. That was not the case, Andy executed the man personally, thoroughly, and seemingly very lucidly, tried to run away from this, then still tried to slip by in court. Thankfully, he failed.
0 likes@abdi libaax you okay, mate? Stay safe and talk about it with someone.
0 likes@Solaire of Astora this is one of the wisest fucking things I have ever read in the hell scape of walnut brain takes known as the youtube comment section.
0 likesThank you for taking the time to type this out.
@Kain-loc It's very easy to judge a situation like this from both safety and hindsight. Maybe have a little more perspective before you lay your hardline stance down.
2 likes@c c just watched it. i thought i could handle it, as i had seen people die before and listened to gruesome audios but...that scream. it’s burned in my brain. it’s so fucking terrible.
0 likes@Ramy Camel Meh....
0 likes@Roe Jogan murder is murder. I'm all for the mental health issues being prevented in the first place but at some point there is a line. Edit: The second part of the Real M&M's comment below this puts it better than I did.
0 likes@BrokenGod Ent. thats what I dislike about this video (the one on youtube) I am all for mental health awareness, but no mental illness excuses heinous acts.
2 likesWe can acknowledge as a society that we failed veterans and other mentally ill people, we can even take some if the blame in that way, but I don't think this man should be framed as a victim necessarily.
@j lew From statistics it seems the complete opposite. I don't know where that myth comes from. In real life cops are more likely to use deadly force against whites. They do use non-deadly force more against blacks. This case is clearly the first one of shooting dead.
0 likesNews and media really distort the truth.
@abdi libaax Maybe they should try committing less violent crime.
0 likesNice vid
0 likesI'm so sorry Andy. You did something horrible, but it was beyond your control. You were still fighting that war.
11 likesI still can’t get over the fact that they didn’t give him any medical attention, Yet a school shooter does…
2 likesSpent 2 years of my life in Afghanistan. It's like an odd dream you can't wake up from when you go from life where every single waking moment can be your last, to being forced back into society and expected to just be, normal, like nothing happened. It feels like a distant dream, but it also forces your daily life to feel equally like a dream. What's real anymore, other than the pain.
6 likesYeah, just like everyone else in the comments. The recommended was just the start, but this is it. What a moment.
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AND THIS IS YOUR LEAST VIEWED VIDEO???????
0 likesIt looks like suicide by cop but then that hard coded combat training kicked in and took over. Muscle memory.
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That dodging was impressive. Cop was definitely unable to both deescalate and dominate.
19 likes@FlymanMS he literally ducked and I'm pretty sure that bullet missed him by a few inches if that and shattered the window behind him. He was a good fighter, god damn. I feel so bad for them both. RIP.
6 likes@zeranzeran I think this dodging is used mostly to disorient the opponent, but yeah lucky coincidence.
3 likesBut what happened to Moses ??
0 likesAbsolutely heartbreaking, both these stories and many others
3 likesHuman mind is not made for war.
0 likesI just hit the thumbs up. I was exactly the 100,000th person to do so. :First time since I've been on YT for that one to happen. 10/24/2021 3:34AM EDT.
1 likeAndy didn't do that. Uncle sam did that.
0 likesThis one was a MASTERPIECE hands down
104 likesAfter seeing Markeith in distress after having killed his pregnant fiance and an officer I have no empathy or sympathy. The police officers should have let the court serve justice but one of their officers got killed, it hurt, so emotions took over. Hope the police officers never got charged. At least Markeith still got life...and now he has to struggle through life behind bars with one eye.
3 likesThe Story of Andy B is so sad. After seeing the video you can tell that he was triggered and it was his PTSD kicking in. He should have been on his meds, that should have had some bearing but I don't understand how the video got him the death sentence. I would have thought it clearly shows mental health issues.
A banger yet again
0 likesJust Wow.
0 likesIn my opinion, getting life is way worst than getting death penalty. That cop killer is probably regretting not getting capital punishment right now.
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cop killer. Based.
0 likesI'm glad Jim didn't show the full video of the officer dying, it was unforgettable listen to the man die.
10 likesharrowing intro
1 likeTaps continue without reading whatever the thing said
0 likesReal life Rambo
0 likesFan-FN-tactic!
0 likesAt first I was a bit confused why it changed from one case to another, then I got it. That's crazy. RIP all lives lost tho.
19 likesI’m just here wondering about YouTube’s agenda
0 likesCan anyone tell me broadly why this has the warning?
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The cop getting shot. The version here has the disturbing audio removed so really I dont' think it needs that big warning
1 like@I don't know Thanks!
0 likesYou ppl who don't know war thinks you know what's going on. You think bad of war. You think it destroyed this people. The lack of war destroyed us.
0 likesThat video of Adam getting out the car is so funny, it shows how incompetent cops really are when they aren't dealing with a cowering ball of nerves. Bunch of bullies who do nothing but intimidate.
0 likesHe probably didn't anticipate this while editing, but weird timing when it comes to cops and cameras this week...
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.....I only venture out from beneath my rock for janitor work, what's the issue with this last week?
4 likesIt’s been on his Patreon account for months, sign up. It’s $1 a month and more content
1 likeAnd????????
1 likeOutward Forward And Upward And... What?
4 likesPuts into perspective the two types of police officers. You get good cops like the one here who dies because he was showing a lot of restraint, and then you get the cops on a power trip who don't care at all about other human beings.
0 likesuhm okey. so now this video is hidden?
0 likesHe wants medical attention but can murder people like if their pain or their life didn’t matter. Disgusting
0 likesFull dashcam vid: https://youtu.be/Q5mLw2iYtXQ
0 likesThis video is massively underrated compared to the other videos on this channel. Veterans who kill citizens are one of the most complex and interesting criminal psychology cases, and the complexity in the analysis of this video perfectly reflects that.
1 likeNo one mentions this about this channel but what I love and appreciate the most is how eloquent and knowledgeable yet clear and understandable the narration is. not the voice of the narrator but the very words and explanations themselves are so incredible to read and learn from.
0 likesBecause of this channel, I now know the difference between a good detective and a horrible detective
1 likeI'm sad I've exhausted these videos. They are all so good. Thank you, Jim.
0 likesThat end hit really heavy. Incredible work, what a tragic story for everyone involved.
0 likesJCS Thank you for for bringing understanding and honor to these stories. I want my tears to stop now, and my heart to stop hurting, but i have personal connections that make that difficult
1 likeI’ve now watched every one of your videos, and the moment you said that they actually followed through with his execution is still the most shocking. How the fuck does a legally disabled war vet with severe PTSD still get executed in 2015?????
0 likesI'm very glad you edited the final clip.
2 likesI have seen a lot of bad things on the internet, but that video was one of the most disturbing things I had ever watched even without any blood on screen.
It’s unfortunate that YouTube makes this video so hard to watch because it is probably the most important and impactful stories you’ve told
10 likesMan, you're the best channel I've comed across in the last few years, so happy I found your content! I'm binge watching all of it 🤣 lol
0 likesThis has been my favourite one so far, definitely has more of a movie feel with the way they spliced the footage and how they did the opening and ending
1 likeis it just me.... but if someone has all the evidence like they do in these videos.... why is a confession seen as so hard to get? if someone tells me they have my footprints and everything else... they already got you. you know youre not going home... like im lost
1 likeWow. The very own country Andy risked his life fighting for ended up being the one to kill him. This man was absolutely failed by the very own country he fought for. This was so sad
0 likesI wouldn't say the police were biased against Markeith, the dude killed his pregnant girlfriend, shot at her brother, and killed a police officer, unloading on her while she was on the ground. He wanted to kill her, he wanted to do that.
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But the the police can't be the ones to punish him, they can't do that. It's not profesional. Everyone deserves a fair trial and the punishment is for the judge and jury to decide. The police can't do that, imagine he was innocent. Think of Georg Floyd. THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
56 likes@Reverberated Dreams they were in the wrong for kicking him, but they do that stuff in interrogation all the time.
7 likesEveryone new he was guilty I dont now why people feel bad for someone that evil
34 likes@Alfredo Rangel do you think metally stable people are born evil? I don't, some shit had to happen and that makes me feel really bad for them. The only reason I would have them locked away is for their own safety and the safety of others. I do not wish to punish them for being broken. The same goes with people who are born menatlly unstable, they don't have a choice. I still belive ppl should take responsabillity for their actions but do belive some people aren't capable and those people need help, not punishment.
5 likes@Reverberated Dreams There are people who are born with violent, cruel tendencies, yes. There are people who live through horrible trauma and don't become killers. Mental illness is one thing but there are 100% fully sane, evil people on this planet.
24 likes@Big Jabroni You explained my line of thought perfectly.
4 likes@Reverberated Dreams Let me know when you are past your teenage years and we'll continue this discussion bud
11 likes@Reverberated Dreams I agree with some of your sentiment but you seem to suggest that there are "evil" people, outside of your other qualifiers. If someone is born with mental illnesses, mistreated upbringing and these things that cause them do have a bad personality or do bad (evil) things isn't that the whole thing? No external evil or good needed to be applied on top of this imo. But I agree that we only need to lock them away, to save others. Somethings can't be rehabilitated, but many things can given the right resources. Just throwing as many people as possible in prison doesn't really keep society safe either.
1 like@Heymelon i don't belive in absolute good and evil, only relative good and evil i.e Nietches Beyond Good and Evil. I agree that some folksare out of reach and needs to be locked up for our safety, I wouldn't do it to harm/ punish them tho
0 likesReverberated Dreams people are evil, that’s why jails exist. To keep society safe from those evil people. When it comes to punishment, imo it depends on the crime committed. In this case I’m actually happy they beat him and made him suffer. Because no matter what punishment he gets decided by the law, nothing can bring back the innocent lives he took.
1 like@Kauity you clearly did't read anything I wrote, or maybe you just don't understand it.. why do I even bother?
1 likeI'll try to be nice and exsplain myself again, alright? I was talking about the philosophical question of relative evil vs absolute evil, I would think that there would have to be a god in order for absolute evil to even exist in this world. I'm agnostic but act as an atheist, that ofcourse dictates that I don't belive in absolute evil, only relative evil. So when hear of "evil people" I don't wanna hurt or harm them, I only feel pity for them, I feel as they are sick (sick in our societal context). I would like to cure them of there "sickness". As you correctly stated, nothing will bring back the victimes so punishing crimnals like him with harm and torture helps no one. I would have them locked up only as a solution to protect us from them and them from them selfs. I belive in rehabilitation. You ignored all of what I wrote and just stated "there actually is such a thing as evil (you meant absolute evil btw)", that's nothing more than a bassless claim. I would have you know that in my ideal world, I would have you tortured (the worst kind of torture we could come up with) and killed (as slowly and as painfully as possible ofcourse) for your insane stupidity, your complete lack of knowledge and your god damn impudence, it's a fucking crime against humanity you ignorante bastard!
None of that justifies maiming and torturing a surrendered man. Those cops are monsters who just happen to work for the state.
1 like@Alfredo Rangel Because the interest should be justice, not retribution. And even then, they do this exact same shit to innocent people or on a whim if they feel slighted. If you're going to be against police abuse of power, it should be absolute because it can absolutely happen to you. They even bullshitted it with the stand your ground defense ffs.
2 likes@Reverberated Dreams We get it, you're in your first semester of phil 101. Take it easy, bud.
5 likes@Big Jabroni well yeah the police were angry.Are they suddenly above the law?Not doing their job,could mean that the case could be dropped you know.Because they failed to do their job.Okay i get it,they were angry.Then who on earth let them interview him,instead of bringing another detective from another station,not so much psychologicallyl affected.Noone said they are not humans.But they are also public servants,with an important task to perform in the lines of the law.
2 likesGrief isnt a justification to everything
@Xrhstos Pex agreed
0 likesI'm so happy he lost use of one eye
0 likes@Reverberated Dreams How about thinking about the pregnant woman who just got fucking shot? “Out of sight, out of mind”, eh?
0 likesMan this story got me in my feels, the VA is better than it used to be but it’s still not where it should be. The help for people after they get out just isn’t enough. Just so sad that he was clearly having mental issues sighs and poor Moses for losing his human and he was everything to Andy… geez.
0 likesi remember when the uncensored version of this first dropped on paetreon.. i was in tears afterwards. one of the most powerful videos that i’ve ever seen.
1 likeFuck man, this video hit harder than a bag of bricks. I legitimately feel bad for everybody involved, but especially the vet that had to suffer PTSD without any sort of help along the way.
1 likerest in peace Andrew, you were a victim of the state twice and didn't deserve the suffering you endured
1 likesuch a masterpiece of a video! This channel is starting to become one of my favorites by far.
1 likeThis is a remarkable video and is painful to watch. I wish we had learned more from the horrible era of the Vietnam war.
0 likesThe storytelling in these videos is amazing.
1 likeI totally undoubtedly understand why it's age restricted, that's beyond dark.
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Having seen the unedited cut of the video at the end, I was ready with my finger to skip some of the more troubling parts. Thankfully it was edited down. Those sounds would haunt my dreams.
4 likes@CakeDragon924 Very true makes me nauseated, I was ready to lower the volume and skip because those screams are horrific. The aftermath audio when his friend finds him dead and his sobbing is just as horrible
1 likeThis was really well done, this youtuber is top tier
1 likeThese series somehow changed my view on the thing happening in this world. Thank you.
0 likesI think I need to grow up, the worlds is a tuff place.
Your content is always a banger. Can’t wait for the next one.
0 likesAs a vet, I wanna thank Vietnam vets, not for “protecting” this country, but for going to battle for a country which continually lies to its citizens in arms. Aka, Iraq and Afghanistan
31 likesi was a corpsman, i am glad i didnt have to experience anything like this
0 likesMan I've seen that video before but had no idea that was the veteran. Very tragic for everyone involved.
0 likesThis guy is awesome at explaining the situation and behaviors. His voice is also chefs kiss 👌
0 likesMost true crime documentaries either rely on sensationalized editing and sound effects or long drawn out interviews with the affected parties. These documentaries use original footage with impactful narration and carefully timed editing (usually just a small pause or simple graphic on screen).
11 likesdamn that closing line actually brought me to tears
2 likesI have never felt so dark as I have falling asleep to interrogations like a lullaby.
1 likeWow.... This is powerful. Thank you for making this
0 likesThe only video on this channel that made me cry. Horrifically sad ending with the note. This man was failed in many ways.
4 likescrazy how some police just light people up for no reason but this guy wouldn’t even shoot after the guy showed he had a gun
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Cause he’s white.
1 likeThat's a goddamn tragedy. That cop tried really hard not to kill and it cost him his life.
0 likesWhoever makes these videos is an artist
0 likesMarkief deserved the worst pain imaginable. He deserved 10000x worse treatment. Can't believe he got off easy.
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cop killers are not treated well by prison guards. he's suffering wherever he is.
14 likes@Sam Smith i don’t care if he killed a million pregnant women, cops should not be dealing out justice. it’s a dangerous precedent to set when you justify cops beating someone up after they restrained them because they were angry. this guy was obviously guilty and deserved it in hindsight, but you can’t allow that behavior from cops because you know damn well there’s gonna be days where that happens to a completely innocent person… those egomaniacal pigs
54 likesdeadinside55, he deserved far worse
11 likes@Tony G. yeah after he was found guilty. There is something called innocent until proven guilty.
7 likes@deadinside95 bingo. Regardless of crimes committed, police needs to remain as unbiased and impartial as possible. Is that a lot to ask? Of course, but police are given the utmost authority and should be expected to wield it with respect.
10 likesExactly gunned down a PREGNANT woman and a cop and yet because the cops started off confrontational instead of pretending to be his ally he got Life, I’m not saying the kick to his head was right but people that are justifying PTSD as an excuse, is like saying mental illness, trauma is an okay reason to kill someone
0 likes@deadinside95 The cops very extremely unprofessional, but that does not impact or change what he did, so I truly don't understand why the sentence was shortened
1 like@Can't Catch Me because the where unprofessional people normally don't like cops in the first place. So them being unprofessional didn't help because of the trying to get "justice" the criminal didn't face real justice. Plus it looks like a easy revenge against the cops to not give him the max to teach them a lesson
1 likeBecause he killed black women That’s why he got off easy
0 likes@deadinside95 Exactly. It's very disturbing that people don't seem to understand the implications that letting the police behave like this would have, just because the victim was unsympathetic. We have rules and laws instead of a system of vendetta and eye for an eye-punishments for a reason, if we ignore the rules arbitrarily because we don't like someone, we set ourselves on a slippery slope: what if the police beats up a wrong guy the next time? What if they mistake YOU for a cop killer, beat you up and mutilate you, because they feel they can do that? Is that the world you wamt to live in?
0 likesNever thought I’d see a detective use the “riot shield, riot shield, I’m a pussy and use riot shield” in an interrogation
13 likesI’m just confused on why Andy was given 10 chances to put the gun down..? So many people get shot for just driving away but this man ran out of the car, provoked the cop, ran back in the car, showed his rifle for a minute, then he shot. Why is this???? The second you see the gun you should be shooting to save your life what the hell was this cop doing…? The man was so unstable you could tell the second he was yelling that he was in the Vietnam War
2 likesThis one, legit, made me cry... Goddammit... Best youtube channel ever.
3 likesthis is the first time i have ever had to verify my age with a bank card. Smh. I don't think I agree with it, but nevermind here I am binge watching some more.
1 likeOk, you got me crying. Nice editing.
0 likesGuess video footage DO change your perspectives on things after all.
And this is the last video I get, started from How to pretend to be crazy looks like, to this, and now I'm addicted to these and need this man to upload more videos. Please help.
0 likesHe cut out all the parts where the police officer was yelling in pain and fear, and where the vet finally went and executed the police officer in cold blood. Seeing all that makes it obvious why there was so little sympathy towards him.
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Andy had severe PTSD. Get a grip
0 likes@jwin_the_pro like that justifies cold blooded murder theres no way his pstd caused this shit.
4 likes@hank hill easy for you to say, sitting in your basement playing call of duty. For once step in someone else’s shoes to empathically understand not just what people do, but why they do
1 like@jwin_the_pro that makes it okay?
2 likes@jwin_the_pro yeah that definitely justifies his actions we should allow him to live freely in society :)
2 likes@jwin_the_pro And the police officer ended up having a severe case of lead poisoning. He killed him in cold blood by executing him.
1 like@Eddie M. This isn't about justification. What he did was brutal and evil, no one argues that. But he commited those actions because he was deployed in hell for years and witness his brothers and friends die around him. It broke him. Instead of receiving the proper treatment and attention from the state that sent him there, he got ignored. That's the attitude of the US for its veterans. Send your soldiers to die but, if they don't die and get traumatized by the war, they're not your problem anymore. What a fucking disgrace of a system
0 likes@Cristi Enache completely agree, but op i responded to wasn't clear that they were referring to the broken system that is responsible for looking after our veterans and instead implied merely having ptsd makes what he did excusable. ofc I'm surely that isn't what they meant, but clarity over virtue signaling was not considered
0 likesMost of the people in the Vietnam clips never made it home and most of the ones that did could never enjoy the time on earth they have because of the mental strain existing and surviving a war like Vietnam causes. Its pure terror built into them over the course of tour after tour. Pretty fucked its why I never hesitate to let the vets know they're worth so much to us even if at one time they may not of felt it
0 likesThat traffic stop video got hammered into us at the academy. I don't remember ever hearing the rest of the story, not that it makes the outcome any more palatable.
0 likesHeart wrenching, so fucking good, I need more seriously
0 likesK, so this is gonna be the last one of the channel I'm watching.
0 likesAnd while it was a somewhat jumbled one to end it on, I gotta say choosing the song that served as the base for a...well-known parody song, took me out of it for a bit.
As unintended as it was, I think I can part with these kinda videos much easier now and won't be weighed down as much by all the tragedy after that.
Tragic; you can hear the fear in cops voice at 21:40, clearly didn’t want to shoot or hurt him
0 likesJust Wooooow. Your commentary is next level 🙌🏾
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JCS is better than drugs
0 likesSuch a tragedy. The Dinkheller dash cam is one of the hardest videos to watch….
0 likesbest channel on YouTube! keep it up please :)
0 likesAfter adding in my SSN and all my bank pins, I can finally see this video.
2 likesThe ending was fucking amazing. Man what a way to end a brilliant video.
3 likesDamn, this one had a little bit of everything.
5 likesWhen did YouTube just become the best form of entertainment?
"They beat me up" this dude literally killed 3 people and he wants sympathy???
0 likesHow the hell does a war veteran suffering from extreme PTSD have access to a carbine rifle?
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Because ‘murica
0 likesI'll never understand why someone being mistreated whilst in custody makes people think they should be lenient on them. How they were treated after the crime doesn't change what they did, and they should be punished accordingly. There should then be a separate case against the officers that mistreated the criminal/suspect. They are 2 separate events, and should be handled so.
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People prefer to consider time in custody before trial to be a part of the punishment. Probably because one is technically still imprisoned before trial and it needs to be a punishment for something? I find the case of Daniel Chong particularly interesting.
0 likesDaniel Chong was placed in a holding cell in 2012 and the police forgot he was there. He spent five days in jail without access to food and water. He developed pica (starvation-induced delirium that causes people to eat inedible material) and ate m etha mp heta mine that he found in the cell as well as broken glass from his glasses and his own excrement.
Upon his discovery he was immediately sent to intensive care and needed treatment for dehydration, failing kidneys, and a perforated lung from eating the glass. He remained hospitalized for five days, three of which in intensive care.
Daniel Chong was not charged because it was ubiquitously agreed that nearly killing him from gross and callous negligence of law enforcement was punishment enough for committing a nonviolent crime.
That's how the system works. Just so you understand, I couldn't care less about the piece of shit's welfare. Cops were right to be angry, but as the footage shows they went too far and it gave his defense team plenty of ammunition. We're lucky he was convicted at all; a more skilled legal team might've gotten him off.
0 likesThis is literally the best channel on youtube right now
0 likesI would thank Andy B for both services.
0 likesThe world we live in was forged by man thousands of years over like iron into a sculpture. We have nobody to blame for the things that go on here but our ancestors, for their part, and ourselves, for ours.
2 likesJesus Chris that ending gave me chills
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Yeah that shit hit hard
0 likesIt is a shame that he didn't get death penalty
0 likesThis is the first video on this channel that left me a little confused as to what the point/purpose was
0 likesZERO sympathy for a pos murderer.
0 likesDeserved everything he got and more. Eye for an eye.
imagine committing a crime and thinning you’re slick but the guy running this channel exposes you and your intentions lmao
0 likesLast video before I have officially watched all of Jims content. Damn, now what will I do with this void left over before the next video?
1 likeamazingly well done video
1 likeThis video hit different, made feel sad for the veterans
0 likesPlease put up more videos!!!
0 likesThe ending made be bawl my eyes out wow
1 likeAlso holy fucking SHIT That man was definitely a combat veteran. His wild movements while still being able to maintain his weapon and fire accordingly lead to him literally DODGING BULLETS! I saw 2 times where he should have been shot in the head but moved right as the trigger was pulled. Sick man and unfortunately even after everything he did for his country he couldn't live among the rest of society and we still lost at Vietnam. "War only allows Monsters be Monsters and for Regular People to turn into Monsters"
49 likes-Shawn Heatherly (oc)
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Vietnam was a losing war to begin with. American troops should have never been sent.
3 likesLife in prison has to be worse than the death penalty because they really mean life
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They do in USA, def not in UK
0 likesi appreciate all the JCS but this one starts about one subject (andy b) but is mostly about markeith.
0 likesOnce a hero now an enemy of who save by him
0 likesThis broke my heart
0 likesFor all the new JCS viewers, this is his best video
0 likesDude went back to Vietnam with the same platoon that was his family after that there was nothing for him.
0 likesHawkeye: War is worse than Hell.
11 likesFr. Mulcahey: Why is that, Hawkeye?
Hawkeye: Tell me, Father, who goes to Hell?
Fr. Mulcahey: Sinners, I suppose.
Hawkeye: Exactly. There's no innocent bystandars. War is chock-full of them.
The cam video is the worst thing I have ever seen...it's absolutely haunting that every officer in my state have to sit and watch
0 likesThis video is a masterpiece
1 likeAlso @JCS what a perfect edit. Well done!
0 likesmore videos please
0 likesThat dude deserved to get more then just kicks in the face
0 likesThis is my favourite video of yours.
0 likesThese detectives done fucked up. Improper training, carelessness, and allowing your emotions to overtake your duty.
0 likesFew things. Lawyers play a big part in it unfortunately. Maybe he didn’t have a very good defendant. Also at the end of the day the jury makes the verdict. These are every day people in our lives and they really chose to execute him? We’re all doomed
0 likeseveryone is saying that this is the last vid they have to watch from this channel after binging and i can say same
1 likeA double content warning?
0 likesFucking bring it!
Powerful stuff
0 likesYou know it's good when YouTube asks if you really wanna watch it
0 likesCops: "If you see wrong behaviour, report it and we will take care. Dont give up on us."
1 likeNext scene: *Cops stomp a mans eyes out on the ground*: "Justified!"
Most underrated content.
0 likesAnother amazing/stunning intro
0 likesVery strong intro and outro. Chills.
0 likesAll that for a pointless, horrific war we needed no part in
0 likeswatching that cop killer get beat up and grilled during interrogation was oh so satisfying.
0 likes7:49 that lady does not look happy in the slightest.
0 likesYou hit a nerve friend
0 likesLaw and societal order is objectively good and useful, etc etc
0 likesBut if the exchange goes
Man: "fuck off" while holding a gun
Cop: "no"
Cop then dies
Obviously, we know who's in the wrong here. However, if the cop simply fucked off
Things wouldn't be so terrible.
When YouTube gives you 5 warnings you know its gonna be messed up
0 likesi have to verify my age to watch this. im so pissed off
1 likeWow, there was something powerful in seeing Vietnam era firing techniques in America in 1998
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A lot of the content taught to Army infantrymen during the Vietnam war are still taught to soldiers going through infantry school today
0 likesmore please 😀🙂😕☹️😞
0 likesLast video I'm watching from this channel. It's been a fun ride folks!
1 like23rd Infantry Division! My dad was part of Americal! Got two Bronze Stars with Valor.
0 likesWe MUST take better care of our vets....
0 likesThis was just sad and draining and sad. And so sad.
0 likescrazy how andrew wasn't shot sooner in that encounter, being in 2021 where a black man could get shot for no reason at a routine traffic stop this is baffling
0 likesWhen your country asks for your Identity card or Credit card to verify you are an adult, you be like "Haha vpn go brr"
4 likesAt least he finally got what he wanted?
0 likesAndy’s soul never left Vietnam…
0 likesSo sad :(
0 likesDude that intro was something else...
0 likesReally cant stand the detectives demeanor towards him. Scumbags.
0 likesI really wish they blinded that clown in both eyes
0 likesback in the ancient days like egypt they believe eye for an eye.. so this getting a trial will be madness for them like what the hells with this people
0 likesFucking amazing video
1 likeJust saying this song fits the opening like a glove. I kinda like it too
0 likesWith war there’s only losers :(
0 likesCop goes absolute balls to wall 9:10
0 likesThis ones sad in all respects
0 likesthats why i always think people dont really think what they say online, they think they are untouchable. this is very transferable to modern times, where 8 year old children in the park now have iphones, and bully each other via twitter, facebook.
0 likesI tried finding the Vietnam war but from a Vietnamese point of view and I couldn’t find any…/:
0 likesdid he really say a your mama joke in his interrogation?..
0 likesI'm not verifying my age (which is a very shallow from a megacorporation to secure my id or bank details anyway)
1 likeis it only me or google just asked my ID for an appropriate age to watch this video?
0 likesgood job
0 likessad stories
The algorithm has learned of my ADHD it seems.
0 likesHold on hold on hold on. First degree?
0 likesSo this is the real life Rambo kinda
0 likesamazing intro
0 likescops will beat the crap out of a cop killer (ie markeith loyd) and let him sit in pain while handcuffed during interrogation, but serial killers, child predators, mass killers they will treat with respect and give them food and make feel confortable during interrogation. Idiotic world we live in.
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you really just ignored that he killed his pregnant girlfriend and shot her brother as well
0 likesTo YouTube: mind ur business don’t make me have to click twice to watch what I know I’m here to watch
1 likeYouTube making sure I wanna watch this?
4 likesOoooh boy this is gonna be a doozy
What happened to the dog :(
0 likesHis mind never left Vietnam...
0 likesHis dad is Al Bundy?
0 likesName of the judge? And prosecutor?
0 likesOnto my last video now after finding this channel like 2 days ago😢
0 likesam I the only one who feels incredibly bad for Andy B.? he served his country only to be tossed in the trash. I honestly hope god has mercy on his soul.
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He has the greatest kill against a cop in America. He is a beast
5 likesMark Rampersad bro that’s just disrespectful even if it’s meant to be a joke. When people talk about these trigger happy cops nowadays, look at this. This cop showed TOO MUCH restraint and look what it got him.
15 likesAmerica at it's best
0 likesIsn’t that the point of being a soldier
0 likes@Savethebestforu He was screaming his lungs out at a man behaving erratically. That's not a restraint issue, restraint is completely orthogonal to the discussion here. That cop was trained to be afraid, so the situation went out of control because something deep took control of both of those men. Absolute tragedy.
0 likesits how this beautiful pregnant girl knew she was in some trouble and try to tell ppl...... I feel so sad for her..... knowing what happened to her and her unborn..... and then to that officer.....that man deserved everything that happened to him when he got arrested. This channel is life tho! Highly entertaining!
9 likesUm is this the plot for Rambo first blood ? 😂
0 likesThose cops who beat and refused medical attention to the guy that killed his wife, baby and the cop: they are so dumb. They directly caused that guy not to get a death sentence, all because they couldn't control their own anger.
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You could argue life in prison is worse than an instant painless death
138 likes@Selection Perhaps. But death sentences don't happen within a few days. Takes years. And perhaps the thought of being killed some day while trapped in a cell may be worse then knowing you'll just spend your life in prison. As for some, that life isn't so bad.
63 likes@Selection Look into how they execute prisoners I think you’ll find it’s no where near instant or painless.
12 likesExactly.
0 likesNah life in prison better
2 likesAdriRaindrop true and I’ve actually heard that many in jail actually want to be on death row because the jails are of higher quality and let you have access to stuff like tv and personal belongings. Also end up usually being on death row for many many years
6 likes@Scarlet Rain it depends on what he's in jail for. Since he killed his wife and child, prisoners wont be nice to him and would probably prefer death lol
2 likes@Bill Davis life in death row is usually much better than a regular prisoner life. And so much tax money giving those people comfy lives while they wait for their death day.
2 likeswhat a fucked up "justice" system where because after he killed 3 people, cops were rude to him so he gets a softer sentence
9 likes@Kekitto Rektus probably in the same way as those officers, but perhaps I’d also reason that this guy is gonna get a softer sentence if I didn’t maintain a professional demeanor, and that I’d owe it to the friend and colleague of mine that he killed to make sure he gets the death penalty, so maybe not.
2 likesOne of the few times when police brutality was justified
2 likes@TheStealthyPyro lethal injection is painless. It’s not fast but it doesn’t hurt the person. The first thing they do is put the person in a deep sleep and on anesthetics. They’re literally put to sleep. Then you have the process of paralyzation, reduced breathing, then the slowing of the heart. If it weren’t painless it wouldn’t be used and would be deemed cruel and unusual much like the electric chair.
1 likeNow he is going to get beaten everyday in prison for the rest of his life.
0 likes@Woodman steve It actually is in the process of being deemed such, in the process of being heard by the supreme court. Recent research (published in the last 6ish months) shows over 3/4 of autopsys on lethal injection inmates show pulmonary edema along with froth and foam in airways. Basically meaning they drowned and organs failed before death. Basically anything but a painless death during a deep sleep on the less painful end they suffocated/drowned on the more painful end they experienced extreme pain from multiple organ failure, along with suffocating. It is only not visibly noticed because of the paralytic, which in itself has a cruelty aspect to it, your organs are on fire and you are drowning but can't move. This is without taking into account botched executions that have happened where IVs weren't done properly and pain and suffering was visible. People tend to think this drastic research is done on methods of execution but it is not because the people who would normally do such research do not want to be associated with assisting in research on execution as it is a bad career move and goes against the oath most medical professionals take.
2 likes@TheStealthyPyro they use a barbituate, and two other chemicals. sounds great, versus waking up in a literal prison every day
0 likes@Trent Bergin The dude’s dead. Doesn’t sound botched at all.
0 likes@ladenswallow09 Congratulations on poor reading comprehension. My point was not if the end result was death or not, I was stating it was likely not painless.
0 likesYeah, it really makes me sad. He deserved much worse for what he did. He deserves no pity.
0 likes@ivan ivanovich you're not getting the point though. police are supposed to be unbiased and unemotional in their work, the moment they bring in their own feelings and neglect him is what is the problem. yeah he probably deserved what they said but how is that gonna help their case?
0 likes@Kekitto Rektus well if you reacted rashly then you shouldn't be a police officer, but any sane human would feel emotion from it..
0 likesI’ll say this... respecting a person who doesn’t respect you, who’s done terrible horrible stuff, even when they try to illicit a response out of you?
9 likesStill respect them.
It drives them crazy.
It makes them go mad if they see their worst isn’t getting to you.
And they try harder.
They dig... and fester... and rot. Make themselves look worse.
These cops, even though what this guy did was revolting, should still have respected him to ensure he couldn’t play victim, and detract from his victims.
Everyone should respect one another, even if stuff is going to hell, don’t make someone your victim.
Ever.
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A lot of people are going to have a hard time agreeing with this, but I think you're right. It's so much easier to feel vindictive rather than understanding and empathetic, but that hate will still poison you if you let it.
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place." broke me
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Balling in work as of writing this
4 likes@RG-SmokeyYT Or maybe we should just have common sense gun laws that don't allow vets with severe PTSD to own guns.
16 likes@True News or anyone?
0 likes@Pequeño Perezoso obviously in an ideal world no one would have weapons at all, but guns are way too important for self defense at this point. especially since making it illegal to own a gun will affect honest people infinitely more than dishonest people. they should def be restricted and police should 100% have better nonlethal neutralization methods, but making them completely illegal just isn't practical.
1 like@Jackson Smith No, there really is no reason for civilians to own guns.
0 likesAlso, the man that narrate's the videos isn't "Jim" there is more than one person responsible for compiling and writing this stuff. His name is "Kazume" I think. He has his own channel.
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It's Kizzume, the name's in the description of the video
7 likesHappy to hear about Moses, at least he had someone to live for. Glad he was "fine" with dying, he didn't deserve it, but he didn't gain anything bad from it.
12 likesThe first JCS video where I sympathise with the murderer.
11 likesEdit: Damn, that ending is really sad. Neither the policeman nor the soldier deserved what happened to either of them.
"Your honor the Police were biased against my client because he killed one of their officers"
46 likesI cannot fathom the combination of facial movements and exhalation of gasses through internal organs necessary to emit such a statement.
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It may be true but it's not the polices right to take out their anger on the suspect no matter the crime. That's what the legal system is for and had they just kept professional (albeit that would be extremely hard for anyone) he most definitely would have gotten the death penalty he deserved
12 likesIt’s not the police force’s job to execute punishments .. that is specifically the court jury and judge’s job, they are only paid to enforce laws not use their emotions to do their job. This is one of the reasons why Americans are always the laughing stock of the rest of the world, police brutality is a regular day on the job to us and when people want to stand up for rightfully arrested but unjustly abused criminals that were already due to be punished, some of us have the nerve to say “so what?”
10 likes@Heleen Miziri exactly. Their job is deescalation not prosecution.
3 likesThis world is a crazy place
0 likesThis was depressing, but gave me an insight I didn't have before. Thanks for the education and the upload.
6 likesPeople don't really come back from war.
0 likesThe price our combat vets pay never ends.
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Dont confuse veterans that fought for a just cause, like ww1 and ww2, with the completely unecessary war in Vietnam, or the war in Iraq that was built on lies. i dont have any kind of sympathy for the people that decide to get paid for killing strangers in the other corner of the world for no reason
11 likes@apo kos Keep in mind that the US military these days recruits its soldiers through poverty, and during the Vietnam War there was a draft. While I agree that every military conflict the United States has been in after the Second World War has been unjustified, it’s not fair to blame the soldiers. They’re not the ones making the decision to start wars.
14 likes@apo kos So disrespectful, i understand where you’re coming from but the blame should be in money hungry politicians. not the men who suffered and had to go to war because of the draft. Both the soldiers fighting in the wars and the innocents on the receiving end are victims of human greed
14 likes@Stephan Gaza the men pulling the trigger are not innocent. it is their choice to be there, it is their choice to kill. according to the Nuremberg trials, "following orders" is not a legal excuse for murder
2 likes@IIIIII the men pulling the trigger are not innocent. it is their choice to be there, it is their choice to kill. according to the Nuremberg trials, "following orders" is not a legal excuse for murder
1 like@apo kosdo you realize that many soldiers in vietnam would have loved to not be there?! they were drafted under threat of jail and social stigmata...
5 likes@Kindertotten 1) most american soldiers nowdays serve willingly and with pay 2) you can declare yourself a consiensus objector if you dont want to murder people
1 like@Kindertotten Most draftees were not sent to Vietnam. You've been watching too many movies.
2 likesCool it with the antisemitism. They knew what they signed up for.
0 likesWhen I see the bombs fall I go 😜
0 likesTo all americans! Were you fighting for your freedom in Vietnam?
0 likesIt really did seem like he wanted suicide by cop. Fricken horrible.
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Yeah but he’s white so that doesn’t really happen
9 likesYen H Yes, very true. It’s disturbing to say the least.
1 like@Yen H um yes it does?
7 likesIt also highlights the sympathy the cop had because he didn't want to end the mans life like other trigger happy cops. His actions ended in his own death but the entire story leading up the the meeting of those two men at that exact moment is very tragic. You can't fault either of them for their actions. Two wildly different mental situations.
4 likes@Vugaddi Yes....because white people are the majority, basic math lad lmao
9 likes@Honey barely this day in age whites are becoming minorities
1 like@Honey Proportionately to the amount of police interactions white people have with police compared to black people, it's still the case, sorry. Cops hesitate to pull the trigger against a person of color nowadays because of the political climate. But nice try
8 likesHis story sounds more like actual Rambo movie, but much more darker.
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So the book version?
1 like@bluishwolf yeah, I read something about actual book and how there is a lot of killing involved, not like movie where in the first part only one that gets killed is guy that falls from helicopter.
0 likes@bluishwolf So, yes, his story sounds more like original Rambo book.
0 likesThis video of Andrew Brannan is a major reason cops are out of control with guns today. This is used as a training video throughout the nation to instill in police officers the mentality to shoot immediately at any perceived threat. Police officers learn that because Kyle, the rookie cop, hesitated, he paid with his life.
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Good point.
3 likesThere's hundreds more besides Kyle.
4 likes@DownFromTheREEEfters 21:44 the magic words are said. because of this video, cops everywhere since know the magic words. it's no coincidence. this is the training video that has led us to 2020.
1 likeI LOVE HAPPY MUSIC OVERLAYED WITH DARK THEMES 🌗
0 likesI need more. Your channel has me enthralled. I watched all of the episodes in like 3 days. We need more!!
4 likesIm just starting my addiction what do i do when i run out of videos i havent even checked how many there are
0 likes"I'm glad to be getting out of this place."
578 likesDude never left. Fucking hell, that's harsh.
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Wdym?
0 likes@Malik James he presumably died
1 like@Amber The way the dude typed it, made it seem like Andy didn’t know he was dying and thought he was actually getting out.
2 likes@Malik James no, he never left the war.
53 likes@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew Oh I thought he meant the prison
2 likesHe died a long time ago in Vietnam, the reaper just hadn't caught up with him yet. He never cam back from the jungle.
22 likesDon't use PTSD as an excuse for murder, the guy still knew what he was doing. I know it sounds harsh, but he still made that decision to grab the rifle and open fire on the officer.
13 likes@Emanouche true, but his story is still tragic
6 likesBy this place he meant Earth, being alive. He obviously knew he got the death penatly, he came to his own trial and even offered his condolences to the victim's family because he knew he would never be able to again and wanted to at least partially right his wrong before his death
16 likes@Emanouche while you really cant use ptsd as an excuse if he knew what he was doing is debatable.
8 likes@Emanouche I wouldn't dream of it. He still murdered someone, but it's still sad.
0 likes@Emanouche they dont always know what they are doing. You really need to do some research. Sometimes when a person with ptsd has their ptsd triggered it can send them into a trance like state. I know many vets with ptsd, trust me if one of them goes batshit all of the sudden with flashbacks, you better hope they dont see you as a threat.
12 likesHe’s talking about life moomoo
0 likes@Emanouche ya but his punishment shouldn’t be death penalty. It’s not black and white an eye for an eye.
1 like@DONNY Flow.
0 likes@Emanouche Right, its certainly not. But its so tragic how his story ends compared to the other Guy who murdered a police officer, his Ex gf && His unborn daughter........ and still is alive today..
0 likes@FalconTalk Yes.
0 likesIt's absolutely reprehensible how we treat veterans.
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A lot of them did a lot of horrible things back them
1 like@Pedro Cavalcante Santana I don't think so. I mean you did have those that participated in things like mai lai, but the majority of then served with honor and courage. Even if by our standards they did something "bad", we could never understand the circumstances; it is war after all.
0 likesHoly sh*t, I wasn't expecting to cry today but ok.......amazing quality as always, full of poignant commentary, keep doing what your doing!
3 likesis this fucking judge asleep?? 19:22
0 likesThe officers screams are something from a nightmare truly horrifying
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@Cryo Gyro 😟😕
5 likes@Colleen Sarmento I've sucked blood from the lungs of a man dying from a pulmonary embolism (basically choking on his own blood) I've sat in a ditch with a man in my lap impaled through the chest with rebar to keep him immobilized so as not to do any more damage to his body. I've held the hands of many men and women as they've taken their final breath. Some things do stay with you.
21 likes@Cryo Gyro EMT?
4 likesI live in the county this happened at. Sadly someone at work showed me the traffic stop video on YouTube and i wish he had not. This guy who showed me video was a washout from trying to be a cop and said they show them all this video which may have a bit to do with why we have higher incidents of police shootings recently? The cops parents ran the only bowling alley for a 60+ mile radius. Poor kid and I feel bad for his parents and children bc they probably had son e asshole kid link the video from YT to their fb or something.
4 likesNo horror movie truly captures the sound of a human scream. That certain tone that says "oh shit, I'm dying".
3 likesSmh how dare the cops make someone who killed a pregnant woman and police woman uncomfortable.
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Allowing him to get leniancy in his court case, your own ideology should lead you to want cops to never do that.
0 likesamerica just cant do anything right
0 likesThis is a tough one for me. I keep almost forgetting he was a combat veteran, on the other hand it involves a woman with child and an officer. It is difficult to back the blue when brutality is involved, but also to challenging back brutality going unchecked.
3 likesI don’t feel no lick of sympathy for the men who killed his pregnant ex girlfriend, but the vet should have been able to use the insanity defense
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He obviously seemed like he was in the right state of mind when he was asking for medical attention. Yet didn’t show one ounce of regret or sympathy for what he did.
7 likes@Kaeli Noel war does things to people
6 likesif that happened in this time and era, he would use the racial card for sure even though he killed a BLACK police officer. the fact of the matter is that these people use every kind of defense to try and escape responsibilities for their crimes. And quite honestly, you always have one soft hearted liberal in one of these trials who doesn't want to sentence a man to death. No surprise there. Even mass murderers have avoided the death penalty like James Holmes who shot up the theatre.
11 likes@Ethan Orange ok, but it didn't happen in this time and era, and he didn't use the race card. while it's difficult to say that someone like the war machine or someone like this man who killed his pregnant girlfriend doesn't deserve the death penalty, because of the pure rage and hurt i feel on behalf of these women. i'm still undecided on it.
2 likesI like that the guy operating the IR camera in the helicopter turned away when he realized they were going to beat his ass after apprehending him. It’s too bad he got the best one on camera.
4 likesFree Dom i think you would really like contrapoints’ new video on justice
1 likeSo you hate the man involved with the female and the infant because of his skin color? Interesting.
1 like@Valerie Hang Contrapoints is a sophist.
0 likesnonam namrson a greek teacher of philosophy?
0 likesEthan Orange But the racial card is used when the victims haven’t done anything and there is no proof of a crime 🤷🏽♀️
0 likesIt's interesting that your sympathy only extends in one direction. I don't think anyone who's lived a healthy, purposeful life would murder someone and their child. He, like veterans, clearly suffered from something in his life that led to this heartbreaking decision. War is a terrible thing, but life itself, outside of war, can also be terrible. I extend my empathy to both men, because something had to have gone horribly wrong in both of their lives for them to end in the way they did.
1 likeTimothy Alan right you can tell their life's were horrible but I still can't feel sorry for killers, especially the one that killed 2 black females
1 likeTimothy Alan if he took his pain out on himself, that would be different but 2 innocent females?
1 like"He would yell at people standing next to him like they were 50 yards away"
33 likesIn Ireland that's a normal thing to do for 90% of people
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@N Breslin Dude, he was just telling a joke. You should delete your comment since you are embarrassing Ireland.
1 like@Lukkaboc He ain't embarrassing anyone, that's how Ireland is.
2 likes20:29 waittt is this where that jpegmafia sample comes from?? 😭😭😭
0 likesthank you. you have educated me in way’s that I didn’t understand I needed to be educated in
5 likesHe never wanted to kill that man. A switch was hit, created by the U.S. war machine. The officer became the enemy in his brain. Thank both of you for your service! This was a tragic situation. My thoughts and prayers go out the the families affected.
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So, you know him personally??? If not, it's pretty idiotic for you to speak on the behalf of someone you don't know.
1 like@Daniel Wong
1 likeI’m not trying to speak on anybody’s behalf. I don’t know for sure what he was thinking or feeling in that moment. I just simply shared my thoughts on what may have been going through his mind as his killswitch was engaged. I’m not being disrespectful to anyone here, so I ask. Why are you?
@Joshua David That wasn't "My Thoughts". You wrote your original comment as if it was a fact. There are ways to write things to prevent idiocies like that.
1 likeThe first time i'm with police on this one.
0 likesEven though how cruel they sound and act. I feel no empathy for this Garbage.
And now I'm crying. F war.
0 likes20:40 no fucking way. I saw this video years and YEARS back and it absolutely horrified me. Now I know the sad complicated backstory for it all these years later. Huh
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it wasn't played in this video but i remember the officers screams still
31 likes@testuser564 Same man, scared the hell out of little me back then.
13 likes@MrCoolSmoovie glad I’m not the only one Jesus
3 likesI was way too young when I watched that video. It's still on YT.
2 likes@Zeyr0 and people have the nerve to say that it shouldn't be age restricted lol this whole story and video are not to be seen by kids lol
16 likesSameeeeeeee
0 likesI remember watching it as well, it disturbed me for a few days
2 likesI initially watched it in a compilation of cops getting executed. I was getting some popcorn & drinks ready to enjoy the show. It is sort of my kind of entertainment to see corrupt & evil cops get a visit from karma & getting slaughtered like the pigs they are.
5 likesBut unfortunately officer Kyle was just fresh out of the academy & was in no way a corrupt cop.
So he obviously did not deserve all of this. It saddens me how its always the good people that get bad things coming to them.
I seriously wished that cops like those that murdered George Floyd would have gotten an execution like that.
@Creamy Goodness wow you're skewed in the head
21 likes@Creamy Goodness yeah true
1 like@RedLoFI na
0 likes@Italianstallion 727 , Oh, I go by the Name I told Moses these days so you don't have to call Me Jesus because that Name is a Curse word ever since it got Hung to death on a Cross.
0 likesSo Anny Way what you will notice in this video is that the Narrator says that the Cop has the right to shoot Andrew after Andrew informs the Police he is Armed but what the Narrator fails to real eyes is that Andrew has the right to kill the cop after the cop draws his gun and points it at Andrew. If you notice Andrew was simply Dancing in the Street completely unarmed and then AFTER the Cop threatens Andrew by pointing his gun at him Andrew then arms himself and defends himself. So, It's a Clear cut case of Self Defense, justified, like when Moses killed that Egyptian. And it really matters not what public opinion is about this because you are all sinners in need of a Saviour.
It's not that complicated. He danced, to distract him: this proves it had nothing to do w any PTSD. Was he dancing in Vietnam? He did not dissociate, he didn't think he was in Vietnam shooting at the enemy. He KNEW it was a police officer, and he was emotionally unstable and enraged, nothing more.
0 likes@Raphaella Victoria really? Did you even watch the video? How can you claim this man was not suffering from PTSD?
2 likesHow many problems could we have avoided at home if we had not embroiled ourselves in wars abroad?
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too many, but politicians never cared and will never learn the lesson because they care only about money, and wars make theme aot of it.
13 likesBoth of my grandfathers were in Vietnam. My maternal grandfather passed away In 2012, from what I can recall was complications from war injuries (I was young at the time so this may be wrong). My paternal grandfather is still alive and relatively healthy, but he’s had issues with his hearing and heart as a result of exposure to Agent Orange. It’s a damn shame what we did there, to our men and the people of Vietnam.
9 likes@Jam Imho, the ruling class cares about money and power - I.e., who controls (and who doesn't) access to and distribution of the earth's natural resources, primarily oil.
3 likes@Anna Jacob that's true. they also cares about how much money enters their pockets & bank accounts.
1 likeEveryone needs to learn, one way or another, that these wars are started & funded by a very specific tribe of people with a strong in-group preference. So much avoidable bloodshed at the cost of power and greed.
0 likesRich people make money off wars, and as an added bonus wars kill off more poor people.
2 likesBut at least they got rid of the communism in Asia after that war, right? RIGHT???
@Jack
0 likesDefense contractors are powerful corporations that pay off politicians through super PAC lobbying and other forms of "fundraising". The rich get paid and the taxpayers and consumers fund it.
PTSD, while an explanation, is not an excuse. The death penalty was justified.
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No it wasn’t, he was forced into Vietnam and got ptsd. He did not choose to go to Vietnam, he did not choose to get drafted. Yet nonetheless the government that he fought for, that his brothers died for, that his life was ruined for, killed him... All while he could do nothing about it. The day the government got him drafted was the day his fate was sealed.
2 likesMore over he regretted killing the cop, he wished he could reverse it, his last words were an apology to him and his family
1 like5 minutes in and i am beginning to remember this case. juicy. unfortunately poorly trained cop vs extremely shell-shocked and well-trained vietnam war hero=3 of the most exiting and terrifying minutes ever committed to camera. That being said, he should have been shown leniency. His mental state is in no way his fault.
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No, he was still responsible for his actions. His mental state should be cause for an insanity plea, but he should clearly not be allowed among the general population anymore, at least not until definitively proven to be better. Given how damaged he seemed to have been, though, it's unlikely he can improve. Was it his fault that he was messed up by the war so much? Of course not. But he still pulled the rifle and pulled the trigger.
2 likesThis is arguably the best content I've watched on YouTube.
45 likesWTF when I try to open the video app give me a warning that this video is inappropriate
0 likesWow. I've been the footage of that officers killing a fer times before but now it's nice to have the context of it, tragic either way.
6 likes18:38 why the back of his head looking at me
0 likes13:26 The person in the helicopter saw they was kicking his face and panned the camera like oh look a bird 😂 Well done
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The guy who had shot a pregnant woman 8 times killing her, shot her brother 3 times, then shot a police woman killing her also. He got kicked, aw so sad????? what if it was your pregnant sister or daughter he shot and killed?
31 likes@Sterling A lmao your reading comprehension skills aren't very good, he never once said he didnt warrant it
56 likes@Sterling A exactly. Cops don't need to act in a professional and legal manner. Theyre cops - laws don't apply to them.
2 likesBesides, we all know that arresting someone and sending them to jail or executing them isn't how we get revenge for crimes people commit. Sending thugs to beat them up is what we do.
@TheThingNG the world that these guys supporting extrajudicial punishment want to live in is like cartel controlled central America.
1 likeI searched up officer dinkheller’s last stand and he wasn’t wrong when he said I wouldn’t forget it
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I cried buckets without it - for everyone involved. No need to see the full thing.
12 likesWorse than the screams where the gurgles you heard at the end. The wounded officer trying to breath with a mouth full of blood no doubt. The both of them where victims.
12 likesI saw it years ago. It stayed with me a long time.
5 likesPrimus Pilus 14 ffs. I told you I didnt watch the extended video because I was upset enough already. Why would you think I wanted a description of it?
2 likes@Sean the Red idk wasn't that bad tbh
0 likesSmells like .......Victory
0 likesI notice he edited this from the original version. I totally get why he did it but it doesn't look like it helped (still flagged). He should just restore the original version.
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What’s different?
0 likes@Movies by e you can hear the cop screaming crying for help
0 likes“ANIMAL FARM” at h
0 likesIt’s best
How can Americans still be so proud of their veterans instead of fighting against militarism?
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We've been indoctrinated.
0 likesIt's not the veterans who are the problem, it's the system. They're abused by the system just like everyone if not more and the least one can do is respect them. That doesn't mean you are supposed to respect the system that abuses and exploits them.
0 likes@NoSoul NoProblem never said they were the problem per se but most ppl don't respect them bc they are victims of the system as you say. On the contrary they respect them bc they 'fought for the country' so precisely bc they participated in the system.
0 likesPlease God upload. Monsters is a good show, but it's no replacement for this channel.
0 likesjesus christ what an opening
0 likesIntro resembles a Fallout trailer
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0 likesthat cop just didn't wanna shoot him :(
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No sane person likes to take lives.
100 likesHe was actually written up for excessive force about a month before and admitted to his supervisor and other officers how nervous he was getting hands on with suspects after.
64 likes@TheFoxBox Gaming It's...really sad. I agree that excessive force exists, I agree that some cops do bad shit. But when you see cases like this, see mass shootings where they're the first responders-despite often being under equipped to deal with rifles, see things like Las Vegas where they were as brave as anyone, attempting to draw fire away from the crowd-which is what lights and sirens will likely do, you remember just how fucked their position is, and how they're expected to risk their lives doing things that citizens like me don't have the balls to do-AKA run into the line of fire rather then running away from it.
31 likes@SoulFor Sale TF is wrong with you.
2 likes@Rabbit Corn It's a fine line and why I stopped trying to be a cop. Alongside a few things that I'm morally against, and that the good cops that do exist have the toughest job in the world.
13 likesHe was white
24 likes@5nbo me Im sure that it.... >.>
5 likesThats a true cop.
2 likes5nbo me You ain’t wrong.
3 likespart of that i think is he didn't want to accidentally hit the man's dog in his car!
2 likesThis is one of the most widely shown clips used to demonstrate the need for officers to use justified force. This was an instance in which proper police conduct was not performed, as force should have been used.
6 likesGrimace 14 that’s because white people are the majority of the population.
16 likes@Grimace 14 yeah..but your facts are devastating to my narrative.
5 likes@Eric B that's why YouTube deletes comments. You can't talk about crime rates without your comment going missing
4 likesyeah, he wasn't black
0 likesIf you haven’t, please watch the full video of the murder of this officer before saying anything about the suspect being white therefore he wasn’t killed. Fair warning it might haunt you. But the way I see it they exchanged fire and the Vietnam vet w multiple tours and a carbine won. I think it’s a little twisted to see something like this and begin to make racial assumptions
11 likesRabbit Corn I mean thats their job, nobody forced them to do it. I guarantee if dude was black that cop would have fired first.
1 like@5nbo me this video is used in training to show what NOT to do during a traffic stop. Black, white, or fucking green that cop should have shot that guy and you have NO idea what was going on in that cops head and heart to think he would have shot the guy if he was black so give it a rest.
7 likesSweeping generalizations about any group (cops, skin color, etc.) do nothing but make you look ignorant. If you get your statistics on police shootings from the news instead of the statistics themselves means you are doing it wrong my friend. The fact that you don't know the name of even ONE white person involved in a questionable police shooting is proof of that. Because statistically they exist as well but the media likes a spicy story no matter who it hurts so they aren't getting mentioned.
5nbo me why is that necessary to say ?
0 likesno good cop 😂😂😂
1 likeThese Violent Delights Have Violent Ends i dont believe this is a race thing tho
0 likes@Jessy E Population disparity is made irrelevant by the disparity in number of police confrontations between blacks and whites.
1 like@Pac West I don't disagree that the cop should have initiated the firefight, but you simply cannot reduce the actions of this officer down to "oh he's white I'll give him a chance to drop it". Again the same justice system tried and still executed this vet.
1 like@Pac West There's also numerous cases of white people both armed and unarmed being murdered by police. The recent murder of Ryan Whittaker comes to mind. The boys in blue don't care what color you are, and are willing to gun you down regardless.
0 likes@ummmm No it wouldn’t have lol. Keep thinking the work is unicorns and rainbows bro
0 likes*world
0 likes@5nbo me It's so sad that people still think that cops are racist
0 likes@Dyslexic Batnam it goes against all logic that so many people are blind to the clear evidence that they are
0 likes@5nbo me They really aren't there are only a couple. Like would you say all doctors are murderers because some of them kill people just because they can? No because that's a really stupid assumption
0 likesHe didn't want to shoot him because he was white.
0 likesNice bad guy of the street
0 likessomething about the officer saying "put the gun down! Sir put the gun down!" and Andy just being like "No!" over & over again is incredibly hilarious, despite the context of the situation
0 likesGood he deserved capital punish ment
0 likesLike many people, I first heard of JCS a week or so ago when I saw "What Pretending to Be Crazy Looks Like", and I watched a bunch more of your police interrogation videos. I enjoyed seeing cruel, dishonest people squirm under pressure, get caught in lies, fall for interrogators' tricks, and usually taste harsh justice at the end of their trial. Like everyone, I've experienced and seen injustices, and I took gleeful pleasure in seeing bullies get their comeuppance.
0 likesI'm glad I did all that, because now that I've seen this video, I don't want to anymore. This one brought tears to my eyes. Seeing Andy Brannan's story, the video of him in his crazed, angry state murdering a police officer, and his plain last words made clear to me that confusion prevails. I don't know how any of these people got tied up into such terrible knots, and I don't know how to untie them. I don't know what to think, really. But I know that the righteous clarity I experienced while watching the other videos is only a small part of a much larger confusion. This one is your best work.
You are doing an incredibly great job. I am curious to know how you work as a team to produce such well documented content!
0 likesHeartbreaking all the way around. My dad was in the Vietnam war. One night he had a nightmare, and I heard him crying out in a long moan of terror so deep that haunts me still.
1 likeThere needs to be more attention drawn to cases like this. JCS is doing a great job!! Please continue to do what you do!!
0 likesHoly cow what a tragic life he had leading up to killing :(( I know he’s a murderer but watching the beginning I can’t help but feel for him, this is so absolutely horrible. I can’t imagine losing two siblings in such a short amount of time on top of all the friends he had lost in war.
0 likesYou should’ve shown the screams it’s the worst thing to hear but it gives you 100% understanding as to why the jury sought the death penalty for a mentally disturbed individual
2 likesI've watched several docus on Dinkheller, but I knew almost nothing about the shooter (other than him being a vet). This is so extremely saddening. In a different scenario Kyle and Andy would have shared a beer together and swapped war stories.
0 likesGod who knew it’d be possible to root for both sides in a conflict? I feel so bad for Kyle, who tried so hard to avoid violence altogether, and Andy, who just wanted to die. His final statement really hit hard.
0 likesOh man I remember seeing the footage of the shootout a long time ago. The full thing is disturbing. I can see why it could have influenced a jury.
2 likesIt’s amazing how the earlier episodes are so underrated + pretty intense >.< Now to the abyss of waiting for the new episodes!
0 likesThank you for the fantastic work 🥰
Incredibly powerful video. I’d only ever seen the dash cam video. This puts things in such a different light.
0 likesWell, this was a video that really resonated with me. Very well done. Thank you.
0 likesAre you ever just glad someone is dead because you know they arent suffering anymore? :/
8 likesA tragic story about a broken shell of a man, broken by the very system that he had no other choice but to trust. Left to die, by his own doing.
0 likeswow... although I hate war and think it is wrong i strongly respect every single person who serves, it's just a shame a country who will send you to fight for them will not give you the after treatment you deserve and should be mandatory.. Andy deserved punishment for his actions but equally deserved treatment for his past, this hit hard.
1 likeRip Kyle and Rip Andy.
My uncle served in Vietnam, he worked hard and controlled his temper and fear his entire life. We never did fire crackers ect. Growing up....fast forward to him turning 65. His mind had Lewey dementia, and his mind didnt get stuck as a child...it got stuck as a teenager in vietnam. He beleved his wife was the enemy, he began to beat her up...and thinking he had a gun and trying to shoot her. She died of a heart attack 3 years ago. He is currently siting in a nursing home...he has some moments where he begs his daugther to get him out of this hellhole. She finally realized he meatn get him out of the war. so this video hits close to home and broke my heart for this man. All I can say, he is finally free of war.
0 likesI've been watching a lot of these videos and I can't believe how much of a difference there is between Canadians and US police
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True, you'd never see a US officer *run a man over with a patrol car*. ^.^ They'd be too afraid of losing their damned job on some bogus claim of brutality.
0 likesThis is 1000 times better than Netflix and their documentarys for sure
43 likesCops did overstep with that Lloyd, but it's hard to blame them.
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Agreed
1 likeMy thoughts exactly, I like to think of it as he got what he deserved, but that inmates should have been the ones to do it to him.
2 likesI read the case with the Vitnam veteran in the newspaper at the time. It was a crime to sentence him to death
0 likesLove these videos, very insightful
0 likescan’t believe how talented the guy making these videos is.
1 likeThank you so much for your incredible work!
1 likeM. Ahmed
i feel so bad for this old man. The human brain is so fucking crazy i cant help but try to imagine what he was mentally going through in those moments. And the fact that he was happy to get out of this life… just so sad
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Hey girl with purple hair, he has a name. It's Andy.
2 likes@cody hey guy with brown hair, she has a name. It’s Emily.
2 likesAm I supposed to feel sorry that this dude got his ass kicked by police? Because that’s not gonna happen. If you do something horrible, then you deserve everything that comes your way next.
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yes exactly, he deserved it. in my opinion though, the police and such should always try and handle it just like their training, but i understand that everyone is human.
2 likesJust for killing a pregnant woman alone I wouldn't have been surprised if the cops just emptied their guns into him right there.
2 likesI've watched all of your videos in a binge watch that's lasted two days and I demand more videos 😂😂😂
0 likesThe level of injustice done to this man is so mind boggling to me. He has completely become insane due to little or no fault of his own. His intentions were actually purely admirable, but his end result is being in a mental and physical prison. Terrifying
0 likes“My only regret… is that you’re breathing right now.” Ouch! They went down to his level instead of staying high. Obviously we all agree the dude was worthless, but you have a job to do. They were talking like they were in this comment section 😂😂
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True. Their emotionally influenced actions resulted in him rotting in prison as opposed to getting it over with right away. Either way he’s virtually dead.
5 likesLiterally better then most documentaries iv seen this channel is so good
0 likesI would contest the idea that the Vietnam War was any more horrific than any other war that has ever been fought. This was just the first one to be televised on the national news on a daily basis, and beamed directly into people's homes.
1 likeThis channel is infinitely better than all other channels with similar concept
1 likeWelp, I discovered JCS yesterday, and now I'm down to the last video.
2 likesFuck, it was a nice ride!!!
Thank you for making these <3
This is the hardest hitting YouTube video I have ever seen. Haven’t been able to stop thinking about it for hours now.
1 like20:32
0 likesfor a few moments I thought this cop wasn't well trained or wasn't following procedure, then realized the suspect was a white veteran and the poor cop was just confused and didn't want to do the wrong thing.
holy shit the last line gave me goosebumps that was deep
6 likesOh please... He murdered a woman with an unborn child, he murdered a cop trying to do her job, he shoots and attacks police, he does all of these in public areas with total disregard for the innocent children, mothers, grandparents, etc, all around him....
1 likeAnd the police speak harshly (and tbh, this video did NOT show anything bad done to him) they maybe acted over the top and busted him about when they arrested him (you know... right after murdering two women and an unborn child, and shooting at them - so yeah, they probably did shove him down and such)....
Poor murdering criminal is getting his feelings hurt and being treated unfairly.... BS!
This should be on netflix. You should be on netflix. People should pay real money for this. Bless you!
0 likesthis could be a film. a literal gem
0 likesThe sentences for these two men must have mixed up in a clerical error.
0 likesthe opposite of justice is what this video is about. This is why I am disillusioned with the criminal justice system.
0 likesthe production quality really goes so hard 👏👏
0 likesThank you for being to light such an incredibly important subject of our mentally wounded veterans. God bless them all.
0 likesThis is my last video on this channel after binging the others the past few days. I avoided this one because the thumbnail was difference and it was way shorter than the rest
1 likeThis justice system is an absolute joke how can anyone think this is justice watching this.
0 likesAlso I fully understand why they were so mean to him he killed an innocent woman and child tried killing her brother then killed a cop that was well known and respected her loss would've been so painful to everyone in the force humans are emotional when things hit home
1 likeI don't feel bad for Loyd at all. He killed a woman, a soon to be child, and a wolderful police woman. I can not feel bad for him at all.
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It’s not about feeling bad about him. It’s that he wasn’t treated correctly in the legal system.
7 likesEven a mass murderer deserves fair due processes
It should be the legal system's job to dole out justice, not revenge.
2 likes@Libx920 I think he deserved what they did to him
0 likesAfter binging this cannel over the past couple of days, they have definitely earned their sub from me.
0 likesmy grandfather fought in this war nothing terrible happened luckily he just lost his hearing
0 likesi've watched all the videos up at the current moment, i hate you yet i love your content. bless your soul
0 likesWho DIDN'T start binge watching with the video of the guy pretending to be crazy? For me it was Jodie Arias
8 likesFeeling like I'm in the minority :-/
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It was “the legend of Jeff” for me
1 likeStephanie Lazarus interrogation for me!
2 likesDalia Dippolito. Friend linked it to me not knowing it would create a monster, where-in I spent fifteen minutes shouting insults at them because this channel is tiny (content wise) and finding equally good channels is like deliberately swimming in a slurry tank and expecting to find gold coins.
1 like@Patrick Harrington hahaha, I know what you mean. Pretty much everyone I've linked this channel to has binged it. When you've had top content like this it's hard to take a step down.
1 likeHave you checked out https://youtube.com/c/TheBehaviorPanel ?
This one was so well made
0 likeshands down the best channel on YouTube
0 likesNot making excuses, it’s sad what happened and it’s his fault for not refilling his prescription but that war was tough on so many
3 likesMy aunt Barbara’s bf was in Vietnam , he told me a girl tried to kill him in his sleep .. so he had to kill her
0 likesI love these videos and this is my last one after a hard binge. Anyone know any other similar channels?
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Found one yesterday, named Matt Orchard. Awesome stuff.
0 likesthis is heartbreaking
0 likesthese videos are TOO FUCKING GOOD MAN. IM ADDICTED ANDI NEED MOREEEEE
0 likesman that last song really gave me goosebumps with his last words
0 likesIm glad to be getting out of this place, those words chilled me to the fucking bone
0 likesWell that was a fucking emotional rollercoaster.
1 likeAbsolutely tragic.
0 likesWhat did you expect? Those guys are trained to professionally kill armed opponents and then all of the sudden you wonder and complain?
3 likesWho else cried watching the beginning, war is terrifying
0 likesfirst youtube video to make me cry holy shit these videos are eye opening
1 likeThe intro clip made my nonexistent PTSD kick in
0 likesThe juxtaposition of the war footage overplayed with that song is as beautiful as it is sad. Well done
0 likesThis channel got me anticipating the next murder... wtf.
1 like"Im glad to be getting out of this place" damn 😔
2 likesJim can you do a world war 2 video? Not much of the guys left. Would be nice to see, before they're all gone.
0 likesHis videos are just sooo good
0 likesI thought I remembered this when you said this happened in Covington Georgia, but now I remember I've seen the video at 20:26.
1 likeI think death is an easy out. Let someone sit in prison the rest of their natural life knowing they will never experience freedom again. That's a punishment.
0 likesI had to confirm that caution message three times
0 likesThe hell
16:02 he did NOT just say “you a bitch in body armor” I’m fucking crying laughing
0 likesThis one gave me anxiety. What a shame.
0 likesjust now watched the last of this channels videos. bingewatched the whole channel in the past 3 days lool
0 likesSometimes we underestimate the amount of trolling we have done...
2 likesCOVINGTON GA ?????? That’s my hometown!! This is my last video & my mouth dropped. I love your videos 💕
0 likesExactly what these game systems are doing to our children
0 likesThis channel is gonna go places man..
0 likesThe detectives in the interrogation room had every right to say what they said. He doesn’t deserve to be comfortable after murdering multiple people.
2 likesIt's weird how we all decided to keep this one for the end of the binge
0 likesHe would talk loudly to people right next or him because during the war it would be really loud cause all the guns and noises
0 likesyou know it's gonna be good when youtube doesn't like it
1 like9:10 umm why is that cop unloading on a vehicle trying to get away?? That seems kinda illegal to shoot someone as they are fleeing..
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Shooting out the tires, not an uncommon tactic, and seemed to work as the driver crashed into a wall.
0 likesHe's not shooting out the tires. The suspects in that car had already fired 30+ shots at officers during the pursuit. Threat needed to be stopped simple as that. And about the shooting at a fleeing suspect thing an officer is allowed to shoot if they perceive the fleeing suspect as a threat to them or others. Which clearly these people were.
0 likesNo idea what to expect when YouTube asks you to confirm twice. It got to be good in one way or other.... 🤞
0 likes25Min later...
DAMN, THIS IS Tragic
Damn that was sad af
0 likesPolice man should have known better. RIP Moses
1 likeThe beginning felt like a start to a Zack Snyder Movie 😂
0 likesMy last video now. Amazing content!
0 likesBegging officers for help after u shot an officer. Not just shot but unloaded on her.
1 likeDamn that was sad
0 likesI wish it was easy to let go of the horrors of war I wish it because they gave up so much so we didn't have to give up anything they sacrificed there happiness for us
0 likes9:04 that reload is painful
1 likethese videos have really brought as all here like a family, Pretty neat
0 likesI’ve watched all JCS videos and I am NOT ok with that
0 likesWhen I was 15 I should have been worried about girls, but I was worried about going to Vietnam.
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I can't imagine living every day scared of being drafted. :/
0 likesIdk what the government thinks training killers then letting them back into society like nothing
0 likesDamn, what a real gut punch
0 likesWow that Markeith Lloyd part was crazy
0 likes6:01 His dad looks like jay pritchett from modern family.
1 likeYouTube has decided to age restrict this video. Jesus, this isn’t Twitter, we don’t need trigger warnings for everything
0 likesdamn this was kinda sad
0 likesCongrats, you unlocked the secret JCS video.
0 likes17:21 he is like, open your eyes, but he cant LMAO
1 likeHow cares what kind of treatment a cold blooded killer receives.
0 likesJesus Christ did those pictures at the end bring back memories.
0 likes69k likes pog 😭😁 lets hope for all the veterans that they are safe and sound brothers and sisters
0 likesGreat Video!
0 likesJCS sounds like he's Chris Hansen's ll bro
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There’s a separate person for narration
5 likesHow I learned to stop worrying and love the cluster bomb
0 likeswow this was sad. And I'm officially out of JCS videos D:
0 likesYea I'll be the one to say it. If Andy were black the chances of him even getting back to the car after moving towards the cop go down A LOT
1 likei just feel bad for that dog in the truck
0 likesAh yeah Vietnam War, we may forgive but we never forget.
1 likeThis country fails out Veterans so much, and this is what turns out. We as a country, need to take better care of our Veterans.
0 likesPause at 18:30 the back of his head is smiling at us
0 likesWould have been amazing to be a bomber pilot in Vietnam.
0 likesThis intro was a complete banger tho
1 likeI just can't understand how defense attorneys can defend someone that does something like killing their girlfriend but their unborn child and then cold-bloodedly murdering and continuing to shoot an actual hero of the community and then stand up there and defend this person I get its thier job but how do they sleep at nighy
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It’s not like they are proud of it. Everyone is entitled to defense and as an attorney, they are taught to take their own emotions out of the case and defend their client as best as they can. These attorneys are not bad people because most are just assigned to a person.
0 likesDude unloads his glock into a cop, then expects to NOT get kicked in the face? LMAO
1 likeI never knew Rambo was based on a true story
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Rambo was originally meant to end with Sylvester Stallones character Rambo killing himself, And the narrative was supposed to be completely different. They even filmed it this way but after several test screenings went bad, They re-shot parts of it & changed the ending with Rambo suriving.. Part of the problem.
0 likesyou deserve 10m subs
0 likesThis is my new fix on the internet
0 likesThat is the best video intro i have ever seen
0 likesWhy do we all leave this vid for the end????? I thought I was the only one....
1 likehowdy traveler! you finally reached the end. enjoy your stay
1 likePoor Officer
0 likesCan yall comment about what you actually think about the video?
1 likeLike everybody's always like
"Started with.... now I'm binge watching"
The best intro to a yt video
1 like2:40 This could be the start of a sick beat
3 likes16:22 he looks like that one blue fish from nemo. you know that one with the big eyes.
1 likeWas going to like this video but it has 69k likes. I cant do it in good conscience
0 likesThis one hurts...
0 likesand btw, life in prison is hell. death is not hell. death is easy. life isnt. muricans should appreciate that.
1 likeI had to identify my age with an id to watch this wow
0 likes"got him a dog" oh no.
0 likesHoly crap that was good
0 likesHey Jim I just realized.. is your name a Pun about Charlie Don't Surf?
0 likes"Charlie don't surf and we think he should
Jim can't swim but his videos are really good!"
The Clash – Charlie Don't Surf ♥
The M-1 is my favorite rifle.
0 likesShould have shown the full clip considering it got flagged anyway
0 likes“Video, it resonates”
0 likesDamn.
7:48 he lowkey looks like Littlefinger (peter baelish in Game of Thrones) here
0 likesfirst time youtube has ever warned me twice not to watch a video, already know it’s gonna slap
0 likesshe didnt live past 25..
0 likesSad all around...
0 likesAndy is relieved by death and Markieff is spared and going to get fucced up in prison for his life.
0 likesBruh I love this
0 likes“They beat me up”
5 likesGood.
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Not good in the slightest. If those officers had an ounce of selfcontrol (which should be mandatory) he would have ended up with the death penalty instead
0 likes@Barking Shark Life in jail with no parole is better imo. Plus he lost an eye. So it is indeed good.
0 likes5:29
0 likesEd O'Neill is in the video
does JCS have a patreon?
0 likesSubscribed!!!
0 likesDogs are so amazing. My dog Theo is sometimes the only thing that keeps me from being depressed.
0 likesSo, this is you guys' last video too huh?
0 likesJim might not be able to swim, but he sure knows how to make videos of great quality.
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F*k swimming, we humans are not designed to live on water 24 hours.
1 likeWhy is this everyone's last video lol... How odd 😅
0 likesnobody makes me cry my own tears. this was intense.
11 likesAnnnnndddd I'm finally caught up!
0 likesThat officer was very tolerant, RIP.
14 likesarguably the most important case JCS has reviewed and it has less than a 1/4 of the views
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i feel like it's the algorithm that hides this video, it has never appeared in my recommendations nor in the sidebar as i'm bingeing this channel. i was surprised to see there was a video i missed from JCS when I finally looked at his uploads on his profile.
12 likes@4surprisingly I've also noticed that this video has an age restriction on it, and other videos from this channel are not age restricted. Actually, its the ONLY age restricted video.
7 likesI think it’s because of the age restriction. I couldn’t watch it until I made a new account.
3 likes@4surprisingly You are 100% spot on. I've seen the algorithm suggest all of his videos except this one. The only reason I found this was by actually going through JCS profile to see if there were any videos I haven't seen. Low and behold... this was the only one. And after watching it, this comes as no surprise. They are preparing the population for war and will need their cannon fodder in the near future.
2 likes@bobshenix The fact that you actually believe this LMAO.
0 likes@OM i believe it too. or in the least, i believe that they're censoring information for deviant purposes. Social media giants really are censoring information, that much is true. Furthermore, what purpose do they have to censor this ONE jcs video? How does it differ from the others, really? And the fact that the one video they did censor was about WAR and PTSD? yeah. i see problems here. big problems. When you think a little and compare information, this video really isn't very different in content from all of the other jcs vids. So the question returns: Why. did. they. age. restrict. this.
1 likeWTF, You used a picture of the POS Vindman @8:02?
0 likesEven in the video it's clear that Andrew forgot completely where he was in the moment.
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The video just adds to the tragedy of all this, it is just sad.
1 likeA combination of flashbacks and an immediate situation where his gun is in his hands surely did that to him. It's tragic for everybody involved
2 likesMost people started with "Pretending to be crazy" but how come youtube started me with "Guilty till proven innocent"????
0 likesJesus christ the way he switches from almost child-like, boisterous disobedience to complete quiet, stone-faced jungle prowl is terrifying.
11 likesIt' almost as if people will do whatever possible to adapt in a hostile environment and cant just switch back to a monotonous routine...
When he read his last words I just started sobbing 🥺 so tragic all around
7 likesWow. That was really touching. Very well done.
8 likesFor anyone thinking of watching the shootout just from curiousity, I would say just don't. Not worth it. Very disturbing and sad, nothing of interest or extra information to see. Better left unseen, or rather unheard, I would say.
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There are things that can’t be unseen. Don’t watch it
3 likes18:44 his head saying: -_-
0 likesPay attention especially civilians. "In the end we were fighting ourselves" - Platoon. These brave young men were test subjects. "His time in theatre"...the art of War is an insidious business.
32 likesMy ex killer himself after being discharged from the Navy. War is inhumane. Everyone suffers on both sides.
3 likesI really wish I hadn’t watched the uncensored version of dinkhellers murder. Those death gurgles made my heart race and my body sweat. I’m not a good way.
Yooo are we getting more videos?
0 likes10:49 - The words shes saying seem maybe playful, joking, but her body language, especially her eyes express fear.
72 likesNo one watching thought anything of it?
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It seems she needed to mask her real concerns with humour because otherwise her murderer would react badly towards her.
5 likesAdding this to all the JCS videos I’ll rewatch over and over. Quality content.
18 likesHow y’all feel about Markeith lloyd?
0 likesWow sorry but I'm not sending anyone a picture of my id card nor my credit card information... Youtube needs to get rid of that bullshit age verification thing
0 likesLove it when I see that you upload! Keep up the great work!
9 likesI saw the shooting when i was fairly young on Fox Scariest Police Chases. The audio is indeed the worst part. As soon as that video started i could hear him. I almost stopped watching, thanks for the tasteful editing.
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I just watched it somewhere else and its horrifying. I can see why he was given the death penalty after that. I had some sympathy at the start of the video for the vet, but now I hate that pos rabid dog. It's hard to indulge in details of a tragic life history, listen to medical analysis etc, when you hear a grown man screaming like an animal for his life and witness this psycho needlessly execute him. Sorry for this long reply but I really hope he's burning in hell.
6 likesI’ve heard it elsewhere, the screams are terrible.
3 likesthat andrew brannan shooting makes me cry every time i watch it... honestly one of the worst killings i've ever seen.
15 likesEDIT: thank you for not showing it in full. i wouldn't have been able to stomach that again.
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The fact that even after he was shot, he was saying " stop SIR " so respectful ...the police officer had the right to shoot him multiple times but he didn't .... It is sad that it's the good ones that get shot
0 likesAfter stumbling on this channel 2 days ago I have just finished watching this, the last video available.
5 likesWithout a shadow of a doubt one of the best channels on YouTube, gripping stuff. Is there any way I can support the creator?
I remember sending my uncle who was a sgt. Armour cav's an scout! I would color pictures an mail to him! 68-70 ¹/2..nearly 3 tours, he was my true real hero!
3 likesHis friend died at home a week after he go state side! Sad, but my uncle lived till 65, an died from agrnt orange kidney/ liver damage, 40 yrs later, the war still got him..
19:29 LMAO he is actually blind. gj whoever did that
1 likeDinkhellers death is the most horrifying sound I've ever heard in my life... I never want to hear someone scream like that ever again.
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Well... i was contemplating whether i should look for the video. I figured maybe the narrator was over-exaggerating a bit. Reading this, I decided not to. Better that I don't subject myself to something I'll never forget.
4 likesThe sounds of two Tulsa,OK cops shot a while back is just as bad.
5 likesAt the end of the video of his murder yiu can hear his blood gurgling gasps...its terrifying
0 likesseeing the dashcam footage of brannan run up to him and ensure the kill with a kill shot on officer dinkheller was disturbing
0 likes@Fru it may genuinely leave you with nightmares, especially knowing that those screams and breathes are his final. They’re terrifying, watch at your own discretion but I think you’re making the good choice not watching, brennan even screams “die fucker” right before shooting him in the eye to finish him.
0 likes@Kimberly Marshall I think it was edited and removed. Not sure.
0 likesafter binginb this channel for the past few days, then watching that "interrogation" makes me feel like both those cops shouldn't be in a position of power in any work, honestly amazed they somehow made me root for Markeith.
5 likesPutting someone to death might feel like greater justice in cases like this, but putting someone to death in the USA costs more money than it does keeping them in prison for the rest of their lives AND it does not reduce crime any greater than a life sentence.
3 likesTaxpayers want the greatest reduction in crime for the least amount of money...and death sentences arent that
After watching every JCS video currently released, in a matter of 3 days, this is the last one I come to. And it might be the best one. Shame it has the fewest views. The ending was powerful. Also Mad Men.
19 likesInteresting to see officers so angry that they go for a "Bad Cop, Worse Cop" routine, hahah.
141 likesLike many here, I started a few days ago with "what pretending to be crazy looks like" and reached this one last. Caught up now, and eagerly to see more from this creator. This stuff is amazing. Next year I might use some of the videos (heavily curated) for teaching my AP Government course, particularly on the 5th Amendment. I'm very glad so many of these people confessed to the police, but they're good evidence of why you should never talk to cops.
0 likesI do not like how society expects a bullied kid to just forget it when he gets older and just function in society without help, a soldier just get back from war and function without help and so on. No wounder shit happen from time to time...
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@Armanjot Dhanoa no shit.. of course it isn't the same but the point is you can't just forget it.. it stays with you and everything reminds you of it.. it sucks either way
3 likes@Armanjot Dhanoa Well people can be more horrible in their youth then I believe you can even imagine, hopefully you are not one of them and live in denial. If so then you are part of the problem regarding bullying.
0 likesI watched the full footage of the firefight ages ago. As soon as you started talking about Vietnam I got that creepy feeling. Anyone who's considering looking up the full video, let me reiterate what JCS said. You won't forget it. It's one of the few things I still think I might have been better off not seeing, although the sound is the really confronting part.
4 likesGod bless that cop. “Beat the case and come catch us on the streets, I dare you”
28 likesThat was sad, really sad.
74 likesI'm not going to lie, I almost cried with this whole Andy story. The guy lost so much, and had to experience so much. Then right before he dies he's happy to leave this place. It's haunting man, and so sad. I've read a lot about the Vietnam War. The pictures you showed at the end with a bunch of soldier's faces almost really made the tears fall. I can see the pain in all of their eyes. Terrible.
31 likesWars bring destruction here and abroad.
0 likesI hope someday there isn't a case where they're like "Lydia was obsessed with true crime videos" lmao 😭
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Just try not to kill anyone and you'll be good
14 likesHahahahaha I feel the same! Funny lulz
1 likeI won’t be able to date anymore if that happens
1 likesame
1 likeThis is what I always think too when I'm watching too much true crime... and I've never as much as stolen a candy :D
1 like@Dipsy Logic that's what you go to? Lol... Are you a serial dater?
0 likes@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew I think you should take a visit on over to r/whooshhh
2 likesI’m referring to the fact that basically ALL women are obsessed with this stuff.
@Dipsy Logic usually you put /s to denote sarcasm, as it doesn't translate over text unless extremely obvious, which it wasn't in this case, so nawh, won't go to reddit, the basement of the internet.
0 likesWhat a better ending song
0 likesthe intro was way too long bruh
0 likesCan't be the only one to think Rambo?
0 likesNever join their military.
0 likesfight war, not wars
0 likesHalf the video you talk about another case that really has nothing to do with the topic.
0 likesLmao