I just realized, when cozy glow gets drained of all her magic she loses her horns and returns her to her original pegasi stage, but when Tirek drains all the alicorn magic from Twilight, she doesn't return to her formal unicorn version that she was born with, rather still in her alicorn form. Leaves my theory that Cozy Glow is not a true alicorn, no matter how much magic she possesses.

maybe cause the magic cozy glow got was technically stolen?

I think the true magic needs to come from the friendship between the 3 tribes, what would Explain why does Flurry was borned an Allicorn, since she had the love and friendship of all crystal empire

@Rosethz maybe because the other ponies had a role
Like luna moon
Celestia-sun
Twilight-friendship
Cadence- love
Flurry heart- idk yet

I think it’s because as with the other Princesses, the source of the transformation was from within. If you remember, the source of the power came from Twilight’s chest as she became an alicorn, and presumably the same can be said for Celestia and Luna, and as the comic shows with Cadence.

Their source of power to transform was from within, so it becomes their complete genetic make up.

With Cozy Glow, the source of her transformation was from Grogar’s bell, so, when that power is taken she returns back to her prime form.

Theory 1 :
One word : harmony
Cozy was pumped with many ponies magic from the 3 tribes
Twilight was also pumped with magic from the three tribes but in HARMONY
Just like the crystalling when ponies  pour out their love willingly it made the crystal empire more powerful than ever
Magic is more powerful when it works in harmony.
Theory 2 :
Maybe it's how long you are an Alicorn for, for Alicornhood to change all of your  biology.

True just like Cadance Celestia and Luna there horn or wings didn't go

While a good theory none of the other alicorns became their original forms when they Lost their magic including cadence who was not born an alicorn I think it just means Tirek had the ability to strip the magic and power but not enough power himself to strip them of their physical abilities even the ones they were not born with

That makes sense I think it might have something to do of twilight becoming and alicorn bc she did something good and cozy basically made a bad thiing (Idk if I explained well Sr)

@SunflowerSeed🌻 maybe the « amazing destiny » or so theory is right though
Cozy isn’t a true Alicorn she just has the power of one
Celestia found that twilight deserved so she became a true Alicorn from deserving it
Or maybe in the bell there was just the magic from an Alicorn so cozy absorbed it ?

@Masha's Dreams

  You could say Flurry Heart got her Alicorn status from her parents

  Aka the 2x Unicorn Magic and other 2 tribes magic

Cozy Glow stole the Magic so she doesn't DESERVE it

Correct, but twilight also still had her friend ship magic and  magic from the elements of harmony

Ohhh , genius you are)))) At first l couldn't understand what  was confusing me , but now l see.

I think Cozy lost her alicorn status because the magic she was filled with was stolen, Twilight keeps it because her friends willingly worked with her to finish the spell.

Well even so, wouldn't we see more alicorns running around? As with fluryheart, being born with all three types of magic, we have seen a pegasi born from two earth pony's, ect. so if it was possible just have to obtain all three types of magic wouldn't we see more alicorns? With this being said they might not be as powerful as Twilight, and the Princesses, As seen with Scootaloo having an earth pony and Pegasi as parent's would have different effects on everyone, for her smaller wings?

maybe unlike the others she didn't get it approval from the people, Flurry Heart got the approval because every pony was excited for something that never happen before, and it's cadence and shining armor's daughter,  the ones who got rid of the changelings which the sun princess couldn't

Oh this actually makes alot of sence
For a moment i thought that alicorns was really nothing special
If u din't say that idk what i would think about alicorns, thanks...

@Rosethz  @Rosethz  I have no clue, but the elements did zap her, so maybe she got magic from the ponies wearing the elements? (Which is all 3 tribes). Or the spell (which involved ponies from all tribes) itself did so.

Celestia could've done it too, but I think it was more to do with the fact she was zapped by ponies from all 3 tribes/used magic from all 3 during the spell's completion. It seems like Twilight was sent to another realm or something before she transformed, and then Celestia either communicated telepathically or physically went there. (It's a bit unclear though.)

@Nebby's Not In The Bag My question is, did Celestia (who had magic from all 3 tribes) give Twilight her wings for finishing Star Swirl's spell, or did her accomplishment give her alicornhood knowing she deserved it?

I know this is an old comment, but I think I know why.  Twilight's magic is her own magic, Celestia's magic is her magic and so on. The magic that turned Cosy into an alicorn was stolen from other ponies. It wasn't her magic to begin with, so taking away that magic took away her alicorn-hood.

The way I see it, once a pony is willingly given magic from all three tribes, they become an alicorn and generate alicorn magic themselves. When magic that turns a pony into an alicorn is stolen, it's temporary, as if it were from an artefact because the pony is still their base form, but is using magic from the other two tribes, not creating it.

Given how the alicorn amulet never made Trixie into an alicorn, it's safe to say ponies don't absorb magic from artefacts, they just lend its power. I think cosy's transformation worked the same way. She was just using the magic within in the bell, 'borrowing' it.

This is also why Chrysalis changed back to normal, she was only using the magic from the bell, but it was never bound to her, it was never her own.

@Masha's Dreams just like I said there are quite endless possibilities for him to do anything so honestly I can't really confirm any theory that he can take away alicornhood

@Rosethz trying to logicize discord is a big mistake, he is nothing but chaos 😂😭

I agree,but it is possible that Twilight was still able to receive magic from her (This is going to sound corny) heart and friends. After all, she did sacrifice herself to protect them🦄🙁

@Masha's Dreams you're right<br>then again what if Discord can? I mean after all he is the lord of chaos there could be endless possibilities for him to warp the very laws of alicornhood

@Masha's Dreams you're right
then again what if Discord can? I mean after all he is the lord of chaos there could be endless possibilities for him to warp the very laws of alicornhood

@Rosethz yeah I think the only thing that could take it away is death, but death is something every creature in Equestria can experience so it wouldn't take away the physical features. I don't think cadence and shining armor can take it away for the sole reason of, what would be left if they took it? She was born as an alicorn, that is her base form

@Masha's Dreams Or, wouldn't that make Cadence and Shining Armor be the only beings that could take away Flurry's alicornhood

@Masha's Dreams meaning that the only thing that can take Flurry's alicornhood away is death

It could also be a matter of only the entity that gave the magic that made them an alicorn can take away the alicorn magic?

 By sawtooths theory combined with that, only the bell could take cozys horn and only the elements/tree of harmony can take twilight's wings.

This further highlights how flurry heart may be unbelievably important like sawtooth said in a different video. no one gave her alicorn features to her, she was born that way.

Maybe also because Celestia, the one with Authority and who gives the authority to change and make a pony into what she pleases. Someone else can't take it away from Twilight, nor anyone That had been GIVEN this authority. The only One who can is Celestia. She can give, and take! <br>Just my theory!! Uwu

Maybe also because Celestia, the one with Authority and who gives the authority to change and make a pony into what she pleases. Someone else can't take it away from Twilight, nor anyone That had been GIVEN this authority. The only One who can is Celestia. She can give, and take!
Just my theory!! Uwu


As rarity says when she sees flurry heart ‘’ but don’t you have to do a princess worthy deed to earn your alircorn wings? ‘’ gets me wondering

@Gacha Skye Cadence is not a pegasus originally.. In one of the episode where Discord acting sick Cadence said something like she's not used to flying either or something similar to that. If someone originally a pegasus saying that doesn't really makes sense so she started of a unicorn for sure.

@FrootiDragon No, because Cadence was originally a Pegasus

@FrootiDragon I never thought of it that way..

Does that mean that unicorns are the only pony kind capable of becoming alicorns?

I think abit of the residual alicorn enegry got Flurryheart but due to her Destined rule as Princess of something made her a Alicorn. Considering Twilight was even struggling to her new form being born like that would be second nature as more magic slowly seeps in.

@loquacious if it was the case the pillars too, that's not that simple

Because the “turning into an alicorn” senecio that she is most familiar with is twilight, who was a unicorn before it happend

And the reason she asked that was because Flurry Heart didn't. Everyone simply thought that was the case.


The only thing you missed  is that when Twilight became an Alicorn something came from inside her, so It was already a part of who she was, it just needed a push to be seen.

Do you are the worst you are the worst you are the worst

Yeah her magic needed to be pushed from the sonic rainboom - remember she never would've been able to hatch spike without it

maybe everyone has that little something?


I feel like this is definitely confirmed now that we have the A New Generation movie. When the pegasus, unicorn, and earth pony crytsals are brought together and the magic of the three tribes is brought back, the magic from each of the crystals turn Sunny into an alicorn.

@OsBARBIt's not a direct sequel, but the Mane 7 are referenced frequently and its implied within the movie that they are legends of the past.

Haven't watched it but was it confirmed to be direct sequel? Because if it's not it could very well be a different system with different rules


This is really off topic, but was I the only one who wanted an epic battle between baby Flurry Heart and Cozy Glow in the finale?

@Venus🎗 I still don’t know if you’re talking bout my thing or not

@Venus🎗 I still don’t know if you’re talking bout my thing or not

@♥Tato_Taro♥ wanted what the think I’m talking about or cozy vs flurry

@♥Tato_Taro♥ wanted what the think I’m talking about or cozy vs flurry

Sounds cool I’d prefer like a story  that takes place in the future where the try to reform the villains but fail and an interaction or battle between sombra and adult flurry light vs dark maybe even the real grogar if I should do this let me know

I did and the best part is Cozy glow wouldn’t have any help so we can see her full power and I bet what we saw about flurry heart’s powers are probably just the surface

@Twinkling Star she was an alicorn at the time, training? I don't think so

@Twinkling Star she was an alicorn at the time, training? I don't think so

@WP Play Games that depends on the situation. Is cozy an alicorn, did she train.

@Chaotic strawberries there has been epic fights before >:c

@Chaotic strawberries there has been epic fights before >:c

I did that would have been amazing<br>And brought so much more to flurry heart 💜

I did that would have been amazing
And brought so much more to flurry heart 💜

Maybe fully grown Flurry Heart and Cozy Glow instead of current flurry heart and current cozy glow

Imagine if that is one of the new things in my Little pony new generations it would be so cool if they were found out because they helped flurry heart” in the war

@Drswag 007 flurry heart blasted king sombra guards and she knows how to control her magic i think it would be a good match up with a filly allicorn vs a baby allicorn

Ngl I’m sad that didn’t happen I mean that would be awesome since Flurry is super powerful too.

I thought of a battle between the two of them too. You're not the only one. I think their magic are same powerful and I guess both of them will win the battle.

@Blueberry Yeah, I know. i just thought it be kinda cool since baby flurry heart has a lot of power. 😅

Eh, honestly I feel that would have distracted from the message of the finale. Unless you mean a showdown in the first part of the finale, when Tirek, Cozy and Chrysalis were fighting all of Equestria's forces.

Like meh tooh! I'm like off key with this topiccch'

Like meh tooh! I'm like off key with this topiccch'

Mack a video of how to cahance get her winxs

Mack a video of how to cahance get her winxs

Flurry was a baby but she could do some stuff now that I think about it 🤷♀

Flurry was a baby but she could do some stuff now that I think about it 🤷♀

No just No I’m not ganna say anything elst

No just No I’m not ganna say anything elst

Not wanted, but kind of thought it might happen.

Not wanted, but kind of thought it might happen.

@Celestial God or she would have used the crystal heart’s light and love and absorbed it and like her eyes started glowing she had ultimate power and using her powers she sent cozy to a realm of endless suffering and taking away all her magic

𖠌𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕕𝕪_𝕓𝕖𝕒𝕣𖠌

𖠌𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕕𝕪_𝕓𝕖𝕒𝕣𖠌

Flurry Heart even can't speak and she has no personality.

Flurry Heart even can't speak and she has no personality.

the girl who can't be Happy for who she is

NOW I THINK ABOUT IT YESS but bi hope we get an mlp next gen :><br>So we can have that epic fight

NOW I THINK ABOUT IT YESS but bi hope we get an mlp next gen :>
So we can have that epic fight

˚✧₊⁎Audrey⁎⁺˳✧

• YᙓᒪᒪOᙎ STᗩᖇ •

The baby alive club pf, of course😏😒 It’s obvious you don’t make MLP, though if you do is imposible cause the serie is done, the only way to do it is a short

Dejan Rajsic not haiting but you are wrong, didn’t you see all the comments?

Dejan Rajsic not haiting but you are wrong, didn’t you see all the comments?

I didn’t think about it but now that you say that, YES!, I want really a fight between Flurry Heart and Cozy Glow, it will be amazing

Child versus a child I think a child  battle go

Child versus a child I think a child  battle go

That.....would have been cool and funny at the same time.

That.....would have been cool and funny at the same time.

If I was flurry I would call my parents and I would say to my parents distract her and grab the bell and take the magic she absorbed.

But twilight said cozy glow was them to defeat and also flurry could only fight if she was grown up she wouldn't understand why they were fighting 😎

I DO NOT WANT SOME THING SO VIOLENT TO HAPPEN ON SAWTOOTHS CHANEL!

I DO NOT WANT SOME THING SO VIOLENT TO HAPPEN ON SAWTOOTHS CHANEL!

OML YASSS GURL YOU ARE TELLING DA TRUTHH

OML YASSS GURL YOU ARE TELLING DA TRUTHH

You should do a video on how the equestria girls land is made AKA we’re canterlot high and the legand of everfree was made in!

@waywardberkian The only way this makes sense would require sending Flurry Heart into the past (so she can have time to grow up & become even more powerfull & skilled in battle); revealing herself as a filly/mare ten seconds after her "baby self" gets sent back in time [to not alter history].<br> -> The terrible price to pay for this would be losing all of those formative years of her childhood (either Cadance or Shining Armor would had to stay in the present to protect the Crystal Empire in case this plan fails).

@waywardberkian The only way this makes sense would require sending Flurry Heart into the past (so she can have time to grow up & become even more powerfull & skilled in battle); revealing herself as a filly/mare ten seconds after her "baby self" gets sent back in time [to not alter history].
 -> The terrible price to pay for this would be losing all of those formative years of her childhood (either Cadance or Shining Armor would had to stay in the present to protect the Crystal Empire in case this plan fails).

Cookie Boogie Gacha
no, you were not alone.

Cookie Boogie Gacha
*no, you were not alone.*

I play gacha if i made them in gacha I would make them have a fight🤣🤣

I play gacha if i made them in gacha I would make them have a fight🤣🤣

Now that you mentioned, I actually feel kinda dumb for not anticipating that sort of ap epic finale =D =D <3

dumb_girl Xx I didn’t watch the show so jokes on you

dumb_girl Xx I didn’t watch the show so jokes on you

YASSS NOW I NEED TO FIND A FANFICTION OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS

YASSS NOW I NEED TO FIND A FANFICTION OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS

@Sycofoxx™ but she did shatter some heart 1 week or so after her BIRTH and it took 4 powerful alicorns just to fix that mess and also flurry is just a baby A BABY I mean twilight couldn't even Babysit her without lots of problems ;-; (not trying to be mean just stating some facts)

@Dreamy Kiwiw We don't know that for sure though.<br>If Cozy Glow was able to take down Celestia and Luna, flurry heart might not be able to put up much of a fight

@Dreamy Kiwiw We don't know that for sure though.
If Cozy Glow was able to take down Celestia and Luna, flurry heart might not be able to put up much of a fight

Would flurry heart remember king sombra from the last season

Would flurry heart remember king sombra from the last season

@Drswag 007 plus, Flurry has shown to be a fairly smart filly. I'm sure she can find a way to outwit Cozy.

Flurry's a baby, she wouldn't know how to fight. unless Shining Armor has been teaching her some combat skills he knew as captain of the guard, and in a best case scenario impressing him with some tricks of her own.

Two tiny horses going 1v1...

This is even better than Ford vs Ferrari.

Two tiny horses going 1v1...

This is even better than Ford vs Ferrari.

AN EPIC BATTLE THAT IS A GALAXY BRAINED THOUGHT VHFHNDJFHRJD

AN EPIC BATTLE THAT IS A GALAXY BRAINED THOUGHT VHFHNDJFHRJD

I didn't think of that but that sounds DOPE

I didn't think of that but that sounds DOPE

I never thought of that.. But hey... Fanfic writers to your keyboards!

I never thought of that.. But hey... Fanfic writers to your keyboards!

I doubt Flurry Heart would have the opportunity to get near to cozy glow. She was a baby, cozy was quite a few years older, and they would never use flurry in battle. She was Equestria's last hope, and she'd be shielded from Cozy, Chrysalis and Tirek more than any other pony.

Now that you've said that I really want to see it.

Now that you've said that I really want to see it.

Yepp I also wanted a battle between them

Yepp I also wanted a battle between them

NoT iT bUt NoW I Do XD wHy DiDiNt tHeY dO tHaT?

NoT iT bUt NoW I Do XD wHy DiDiNt tHeY dO tHaT?

You aren’t, now that you brought it up XD

You aren’t, now that you brought it up XD

Cookie Boogie Gacha, I agree! it would be the best “magic battle” ever!

Cookie Boogie Gacha, I agree! it would be the best “magic battle” ever!

Cookie Boogie Gacha I can make that for you i do my little pony

Cookie Boogie Gacha I can make that for you i do my little pony

Fidget_girl 11 actually that sounds super cool!

Fidget_girl 11 actually that sounds super cool!

They look like siblings. But only their skin and hair color tell me that. 🤷🏾♀

They look like siblings. But only their skin and hair color tell me that. 🤷🏾♀

That wouldn’t have been good because that would’ve meant Flurry had to win. Because they couldn’t kill a baby

Funtime_Cipher Reagan Hall true, since you never really see a villain win in mlp

You where not. This is a short summary of the comments.

You where not. This is a short summary of the comments.

At first because I didn't see season 8 for some reason I watched season 9 clips of it and I thought Cozy Glow was Flurry Heart I don't know why

Funtime_Cipher Reagan Hall Yeah thats why i wanted to see it, because Flurry Heart had a lot of magic, so i wondered why they didn’t use her when they were backed into a corner. 😂

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure Flurry Heart would still kick Cozy's butt. But yeah that would have been awesome to see 😁!

Wen Twilight said Flurry was the last hope i expected a battle of Cozy and Flurry

really? Well that makes me feel less weird.

really? Well that makes me feel less weird.


your theory is basically proven right with the recent movie. sunny became an alicorn with the magical crystals that were inherently combined with each tribe’s magic.


I think Flurry Heart's was just genetic. She was born with alicorn DNA.

@🍗stickman2022🍗  but there's always a chance for a hybrid ether way you look at it. in real life there were cases of hybrids of two different cats. but two different animals people are trying to cover up. there's also mutations that makes you look like something else or just an error of your DNA. so if there's ever just wings and horns. they would be called something else and they would be just as close as alicorns we could get and one day or many years or gens later there would be alicorns being born all over. because there many mix races getting together.

@Ollie the trolly Alicorns also have Earth Ponies on them, thus why they are normally taller and stronger then regular pegasus or unicorns

@Ollie the trolly I have seen this before, the Cake twins are both pegasi and unicorn, but their parents Ms. Cake and Mr. Cake, are both earth ponies. but as Mr. Cake said, "My great-great-great-great-grandfather was a unicorn, and Cup Cake's great-aunt's second cousin twice removed was a Pegasus." I do not know anything about this BUT there is absolutely NO WAY that an alicorn can be born through "my mom pegasi and my dad is a unicorn so that means I'm an alicorn."

@Ollie the trolly wouldn't that mean every pony who has a unicorn and pegasus parent would be born as an alicorn? I don't believe that

@Hydrogen Diamond or celestia and Luna having children and considering celestia had a thousand years to do so means she never tried, now that the sisters are retired they could try.

Makes sense because Cadence is the only alicorn (that we know of) that had children in her alicorn state. So the only way to disprove that now is Twilight having a kid. Though I doubt that'll happen.

@Norma Alexa Yathziry Rodriguez Reza you also need to be part earth pony

@Ollie the trolly no,alicorns are also part earth pony

@Ollie the trolly <br>It can't be, if it were like that, then there would be a lot of alicorns because their parents were a unircorn and a pegasus. It doesn't make sense

@Ollie the trolly
It can't be, if it were like that, then there would be a lot of alicorns because their parents were a unircorn and a pegasus. It doesn't make sense

@Ollie the trolly cadence was a Pegasus. Becoming an alicirn most likely alters your dna

@Foxtech but it's common theory that cadence is originally a pegasus. Aside from that I doubt being an alicorn is genetic/hereditary

@Ollie the trolly well cadence is a alicorn, she has wings and a horn

But princess cadence is a Pegasus and shining armor is a unicorn so that makes an alicorn I guess


The only problem I see with this theory is that when the three princesses gave their magic to Twilight to keep it from Tierec, they didn't lose their wings. Since they lost all their magic they should have reverted to they original forms.

@Lavenderr_Mavenderr I think this is a perfect explanation! Rarity also said when she saw Flurry Heart for the first time, 'I thought alicorn wings are gained by some big princess worthy deed?' (paraphrased)

@Lavenderr_Mavenderr I think he was trying to say. the longer the magic stays the more the magic changes there dna. and sense cozy didn't have it long enough she was just normal. or is just a writers making excuses of how alicorns work. like how they change that a super sayian used to be a powerful form but later it turns out it's not all that great because random reasons? alicorns are just as bad up to this point. but at lest it doesn't happened all the time.

Magic from the three tribes = permanent Alicorn even without Magic.<br>Magic from other sources (Discord Magic) non permanent Alicorn after Magic taken

Magic from the three tribes = permanent Alicorn even without Magic.
Magic from other sources (Discord Magic) non permanent Alicorn after Magic taken

@Susanna Kervinen Twilight hasn't been an alicorn for nearly as half as long as Luna and Celestia have, yet when Terek drained all the alicorn magic from her she didn't lose her wings and turn back into a regular unicorn as she was born as, so it's not really an age thing in my opinion, more so how you became an alicorn and if you truly gained the power of an alicorn, not cheated it from a powerful bell. This is just what I think though, that it was just the bells powers that made Cozy an alicorn on the outside, but not on the "inside", meaning she isn't a true alicorn, true alicorns aren't just horns and wings, but ponies who have accomplished a great deed creating new magic and are kind and deserving of alicorn power in their heart, or as so I believe.

Cozy might have transformed back since she had possessed the magic from all the three tribes for such a short amount of time. Celestia and Luna had been alicorns for 1000+ years so maybe being alicorns had become apart of their own identity or something


I guess that explains the Flowy Hair as well, they receive the magic from Crystal Ponies as well.

I mean, Celestia's Hair is literally shining.

@Alegria Déesse I mean, they not only have a large amount of magic in them, they're also constantly producing magic within them. No wonder Equestria is filled with Magic.

that's more related to a big amount of magic? Twilight had that when she took the other princesses's magic, and in the last episode


Solving alicorns for you is like solving FNaF for MatPat.

@peppermint cookie if you didnt laugh you didnt need to say it :/

@Meyling Hernandez Update: he's still trying to figure out FNaF lore!

matpat will probably never be able to solve fnaf

Yeah, basically, it's not gonna happen 🤣🤣

That’s just a theory.. A GAME THEORY!! :D

@Meyling Hernandez it’s not even only a legend bro

@peppermint cookie Ur  mom  at your face laughed when you where born.

The next we know sawtoothwaves would say "BUT ITS JUST A THEORY A CARTOON/MOVIE THEORY"

You mean you haven't figured it out yet? Sawtooth is just Matpat in pony form. 💛💟💜🖤

@Featherstar Technically there is. It's called Five Nights At Pinkie's. You can look it up on Google or here on YouTube, there'll be results. :)

The difference is that one actually can solve the mystery

@peppermint cookie did laugh not not funny

@peppermint cookie 1. I’m not being rude, I’m saying nobody really cares and that’s it, 2 Why complain about the age of a comment?

Except one is actually possible to discover.

I watch MatPat fnaf aswell and reading this I'm just like: wait a damn minute that's right

@Stupid studios productions then.why have you need to be so rude to me then? it was 2 weeks ago are you dum?

@peppermint cookie does anyone really care? We all have different types of humor

@peppermint cookie Who Said It Was Funny?-

Legends say matpat is still figuring out the FNAF lore to this day


Actually, I think your previous theory is still correct. When alicorn cosy had her magic drained, she lost her horn and turned back into a pegasus. However, when tirek drained twi's magic she kept her wings and horn - they are permanently part of her genetics and not directly linked to her magic. Cosyglow's transformation was just a mutation because as a pony, she couldn't wield unicorn magic without a horn. She wasn't a real alicorn, and her horn wasn't genetic, just a way to control the magic that she's not supposed to have.


I have an idea of how cadence got her wings, so when she was younger she helped people with their love problems. So after the love from the people she helped from all three tribes piled up more and more helped her get her wings. Just like how the magic from starlights anger piled up more and more in that one episode.

@JadeAMdrawsconsidering that the book is the only source as to what cadence was before being an alicorn and that the show doesn't even bring up the subject thus no contradictions between the book and the show we can consider the book cannon as far as what tribe pre alicorn cadence was is concerned ( people say it's not cannon) bias

@Victoria Crudup yeah from what I remember she was a Pegasus then got a horn

But Cadence was born a Pegasus and got a horn

@JadeAMdraws I’m not saying the books are canon I’m just saying that from what I can remember she was a Pegasus ok

@TMNTqueen 𓆉  The book that says Cadence was a pegasus isn't canon! So with this theory she could either be a unicorn, pegasus or earth pony. That's why people "forget" because it's not even canon! So check if things are canon or not before you go telling people if they're "forgetting something that's canon"

I like the idea but cadence already had wings she was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn so everything you just said but to get a horn instead of wings, I don’t get why people always forget that cadence was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn


Ok but remember that Cozy Glow bent the rules; she stole that magic that made her an alicorn. So at the very least in Pony society ponies would still have to earn the magic to become an alicorn


That pic of Starlight and Starswirl at 1:50 is absolutely adorable 😊

Excellent video Sawtooth. Being an alicorn myself, this confirms a lot of what I believed about our kind beforehand. 😇 Earned a subscriber. 🥰


Him: “Non-Unicorn Alicorns are possible”
Cadance: *cries in having been a Pegasus*

Him: “Non-Unicorn Alicorns are possible”
Cadance: **cries in having been a Pegasus**

@French The Fennec Fox It was in a flashback in the series, she originally was a pegasus and even she confirmed it in the show as well from what I can remember

@natalie m oh yea that was with the canterlot wedding. i thought she was a unicorn tho??

edit;; i looked at the wedding flashbacks and she was shown as an alicorn even back then, so I have no idea wether its true that she was a Pegasus.

@French The Fennec Fox Fluttershy was also pretty bad at magic

@Logically Blue It does appear in the show at some point though

Twlight past unicorn self: am i a joke to you

Idk what's happening but They are basically corn cause Ali-CORN get it?no?ok I'll leave

@Logically Blue But it's official. It was approved by hasbro

@Logically Blue there is a flashback in one of the episodes of cadance being twilight's babysitter, and she is a Pegasus in that flashback to my memory

@French The Fennec Fox he never said that

@Sotáková Tereza but that was because the book said cadence was originally a pegasus and the show never said anything about non unicorns being Alicorns until cozy glow.

@Logically Blue but that was because the book said cadence was originally a pegasus and the show never said anything about non unicorns being Alicorns until cozy glow.

@French The Fennec Fox Maybe she stop flying so much after becoming alicorn.

@Margie McGinley They said it in a book but the book's not canon.

@AngelEmfrbl ya I think you make a point about scootaloo flying from the scooter without actually flying but fluttershy is a whole lot different

Fluttershy is fragile like a butterfly which is probably why she's scared and runs away crying ( I dint know how else to put it) she also has only 2.0 wing power speaking from the episode hurricane fluttershy I believe by the end of season 8 she probably has about 5 or 6 wing power thats what helps ponies fly. Fluttershy was born in cloudsdale since she never saw the ground untill that day when she earned her cutie  mark. Also we all know fluttershy is good at flying she can fly high but not fast after all she is part of the ponyville team for the equestria games. Scootaloo on the other hand is fast when it comes to flying execpt she cannot fly. we also see scootaloo and lift herself off the ground so if she could, I believe scootaloo could be as good a flyer as rainbow dash

Also as you said scootaloo is probably not strong enough to fly but I think scootaloo is heavy, because like in real life birds need to be light to be able to fly so as pegasi I think they would need to be light too and scootaloo is just too heavy like bulk biceps he's strong but isent good at flying because he's to big and his wing are too small same with scootaloo mabye

@French The Fennec Fox zipperwhill flaps her wings very fast, meaning she has the strength to lift herself despite their size, its the same for Bulk, essenitally she is like a hummingbird.  Scoot's problem is a lack of strength in her wings to begin with.  She can't flap them fast enough to get lift.

It gets complicated, for example when she was young Fluttershy was a weak flyer, yet in the season 2 opener when she was pushed to chase Rainbow Dash she caught up when fuelled by anger at Discord.  So the issue is, Fluttershy doesn't push herself, otherwise she could be a much better flyer then she is. Meanwhile in another episode, one of the Tree of Harmoney quests, two tryouts for the Wonderbolts prved other points.  One was using her abilities to boaster the other and this held back both since one wasn't trying hard enough and the other thought he was better then he was. In reality he was a weak flyer and she was super strong. It "works out in the end".

Another theory was that its the "magic" within the wings of each pegasii that lifts the pony, it certainly is why they can cloud walk. But in Scootloo the magic is limited.  During her episode it was brought up, a butterfly flies past at one point when she was commenting on her abilities. The butterfly in Fluttershy's past story represented the alternative way to fly, which was close to the ground.  The point was that being a gentle flyer is just as good as the fast and agile ones, but for different reasons.  I felt that the reason for this is because Scoot is a weak flyer, sure, but... The strength she DOES have in her wings allows her to excile at her scooter more then most Earth Ponies would have.  Scoot "flies close to the ground", offering a different way to use ones wings, instead for flight, rather for short bursts of acceration she needs on her scooter. She basically "flies" without flying, metaphorically speaking.

@French The Fennec Fox <br>I never said Scootaloo was going to be an alicorn. I was using her as an example of how a pegasus can be less capable of flight.

@French The Fennec Fox
I never said Scootaloo was going to be an alicorn. I was using her as an example of how a pegasus can be less capable of flight.

@Logically Blue if a random pony like scootaloo can become an alicorn then what about the first pony that crossed my mind sweetie belle

@French The Fennec Fox <br>What about Sweetie Belle?

@French The Fennec Fox
What about Sweetie Belle?

@Violet Fantasy none of us actually know whether cadence was born a pegasus or not execpt from a storybook

@Logically Blue What about sweetie belle

@French The Fennec Fox <br>I do not think that Scootaloo will be an alicorn. I'm just saying that Scootaloo is a pegasus who has not been depicted to be able to fly during her youth and it's possible Cadence may have been a similar case. We don't know if Scootaloo ever was able to fly but it's possible.

@French The Fennec Fox
I do not think that Scootaloo will be an alicorn. I'm just saying that Scootaloo is a pegasus who has not been depicted to be able to fly during her youth and it's possible Cadence may have been a similar case. We don't know if Scootaloo ever was able to fly but it's possible.

@Violet Fantasy plus cadence wings are already mature

@Violet Fantasy oh what about zipperwhill she has wings the same size and she Flys a lot

@Logically Blue WTF YOU THINK SHELL BECOME AN ALICORN

@French The Fennec Fox did you forget that Scootaloo is a Pegasus and can’t fly?

@French The Fennec Fox <br>Have you heard of Scootaloo?

@French The Fennec Fox
Have you heard of Scootaloo?

I still don't know how she was originally a pegasus inn threes a crowd ( season 4) cadence mentions she can't fly well so .......... how is it possible

@Violet Fantasy  you could see that Cadence where a pegasus in a flashback during the serie

@Logically Blue I'm sure I heard it somewhere else too though

@Violet Fantasy <br>The Crystal Heart Spell (the book that claimed Cadence to be a pegasus before) hasn't been confirmed as canon.

@Violet Fantasy
The Crystal Heart Spell (the book that claimed Cadence to be a pegasus before) hasn't been confirmed as canon.

@Margie McGinley Princess Cadance was originally a Pegasus before becoming an Alcorn, or so I've heard


I’m convinced you got a degree in Ponyology!! I love your all your theories! Also, who’s been here since this channel was called “Brony Notion”?

I forgot that was their name back then, but yes I was there

I've been here for I think close to 3 years since I was here when his channel was named The Brony Notion. I took a break from the fandom of mlp for a while and then I was confused when I came back because he changed his name to Sawtooth Waves.

I watched this channel back in those days. I just got this video recommended to me out of nowhere and decided to watch it for old times' sake.


Okay I'm literally writing a fanfiction about Celestia, Luna, and their time as students of Starswirl. This video basically summed up everything I had thought of for when the sisters got their cutiemarks. Great minds think alike this is crazy. I literally put a whole powerpoint together explaining the history of the two sisters and some headcannons I have and I'm just shocked. Bamboozled.


I think receiving magic from the three tribes makes you a alicorn but to have a title you need to accomplish something alicorn worthy. Also love your vids!❤


Hold up, the new gen just makes this theory even more solid, the protag got alicorn powers by reuniting the three tribes


Just saying,
‘The birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen.’
Celestia and Luna were born BEFORE Equestria.

OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SOLVING MY CONFUSION THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

@LordofFullmetal It was stated by Amy Keating Rogers, who wrote 17 episodes between Seasons one to five (who also wrote the Journal of the Two Sisters) that she and Lauren Faust's discussed that they were indeed born Alicorns.

Celestia and Luna were reportedly not from Equestria and that's the reason the they said Equestria has never seen an Alicorn being born. The sisters both came from an actual Race of Alicorns.

So, between Amy and Lauren and the book. The two sisters were born Alicorns, only if Meghan McCarthy decided to outright state that they weren't born Alicorns in the show, then the book is still considered canon.

@ChristinewhoYT It was canon early in writing, maybe they changed the canon down the line or forgot it was written that they were born alicorns as it's nof in the ahow

I was thinking that the baby earned her wings at birth.

they already cleared this up in their vid abt flurry

@Heather Villalba Except The Journal of The Two Sisters is canon!  And it was said in it that LUNA AND CELESTIA WERE BORN ALICORNS.

But Luna said " it is beyond even our understanding"<br>So............

But Luna said " it is beyond even our understanding"
So............

You know came to think of it flurry heart is an alicorn because her mother gave birth to her when the mother was an alicorn

“It is even beyond our understanding” Sure they might have been born before equestria was founded but they for sure weren’t born alicorns. Just fixing your statement.

She say like that because the true is theirs no Equestria, it mean before Equestria hepend theirs no pony that because no pony now about that, thats my brain tell me😉😉

I think this goes by the fact that it was canonized that they were Earthponies?

@Vanilla Capricorn they were unicorns as its canon that they turned into alicorns after being able to control the sun/moon using magic, pegasus and earth ponies would never be able to do so

Not really in one episode it explain Celestia's hsitory, in that history it says that she obly turned a princess/alicorn after somehow controll the Sun

@Emily Sherman yes but afterwards Luna said this « It is beyond even our understanding » which means that They never ever saw a born alicorn. If they were born Alicorns they could of said that this is Normal to them since they would of just assumed they also were born alicorns.

They probably weren't born as alicorns. Maybe they were just unicorns, as they were tasked with raising the sun and the moon, and in the Heart's Warming Eve tale, unicorns where the ones doing that. You also need to notice that in Heart's Warming, it was a group of unicorns the ones who did that, so maybe when Celestia and Luna managed to rise the sun and moon on their own, they became alicorns, you know, completing a big feat.

I dont think celestia and luna were born a alicorn.

But Luna says "It is beyond even our understanding". That means they remember that they didn't born Alicorns. If thay were born as Alicorns from Alicorn parents, they whould say something like "That's what happens when an Alicorn gives birth."

Did you forgot the part thst Luna says "It is beyond even our understanding". If they were born as Alicorns from Alicorn parents they should discribe the conection by saying something like"That's what happens when an alicorn gives birth"

@Paris France , @Bhwana Aghi , @B Gacha , and @everyone else going  "but luna said it's beyond their understanding!!!" I have said this a million times.

The sisters are canonically born alicorns. Cadence (as revealed in a book) was born a pegasus, and became an alicorn. Meaning Cadence is not naturally an alicorn.

Imagine for a moment, you took a cat, and shaved it. Then you breed the cat, and get hairless kittens. I'm pretty sure you'd be super damn confused as well and not understand how a cat that was born with hair (aka would pass on those genetics) had hairless kittens.

To put it in pony terms, you take a pegasus, add earth pony and unicorn magic and have the pegasus emulate an alicorn. You would expect her to still  have pegasus genetics though, so if she births an alicorn, which does not happen for pegasi, you wouldn't understand how it happened either.

@Vanilla Capricorn probably not tho they have VERY powerful magic

thats true! they are older than granny smith, like 2000 but they look so young lol

Or they weren't born as alicorns - like literally every other alicorn on the show except Flurry Heart. You're making an awfully big assumption there about what that sentence means. The more logical assumption is that they were not born alicorns.

RIGHT

also i mean it was basically confirmed in the sisters journal that they were born alicorns but everybody forgets that

and the whole it's beyond even our understanding thing, just means that they just don't understand why Flurry was born an alicorn

Luna said: "This is something beyond our knowledge"

No. If you've read the book "The journal of the two sisters," Celestia and Luna were born alicorns. Also, the book is canon.

Emily S tbf they could have also easily been earth ponies or Pegasi

@Angel I don't think they were born as alicorns tho, I'm pretty sure they ascended like Twilight.

Equestria probably wasn’t formed yet if they were born as alicorns

Just saying
Luna: It is even beyond our explanation
😁

But you forgot the next part where Luna says "It is beyond even our understanding." Unless they don't know about it (which is unlikely but possible) then they couldn't have been born alicorns.<br>Edit: Grammar

But you forgot the next part where Luna says "It is beyond even our understanding." Unless they don't know about it (which is unlikely but possible) then they couldn't have been born alicorns.
Edit: Grammar

Or they were born as unicorns and ascended like Twilight and Cadence? No one has seen a natural born alicorn since all the others achieved it after they grew up.


If Starlight became an alicorn, would she be the princess of destiny? She has an unusual amount of knowledge of cutie mark magic, and can take and probably even give cutie marks to ponies


When flurry was born the whole kingdom had already filled her with the love and light she needed to become an alicorn, although it does raise the question about all three tribes because the crystal ponies don’t seem to have horns and wings they’re simply crystal ponies.


Does the “Journal of the Two Sisters” solve a good 25% of these questions, ESPECIALLY in relation to Celestia and Luna?
They were raised by Alicorns in Canterlot, their Journal speaks on this many times, and all MLP books are canon unless said otherwise.
So my question is, what happened to the other Alicorns?

Does the “Journal of the Two Sisters” solve a good 25% of these questions, ESPECIALLY in relation to Celestia and Luna?
They were raised by Alicorns in Canterlot, their Journal speaks on this many times, and all MLP books are canon unless said otherwise.
So my question is, *what happened to the other Alicorns?*


While I agree with this theory, I love how we ignore the fact that the writer of the show said that Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, but oh well, I like this theory better! Then again, I also loved the Starswirl theory because, such as this, it has loads of canonable points, I’m conflicted, WHY SO HARD?!?


“cozy glow is proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns”<br>so we just gonna ignore cadence now aight aight

“cozy glow is proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns”
so we just gonna ignore cadence now aight aight

Cadence was a unicorn at first tho.<br>In one of the episode where Discord acting sick she told Twilight "I'm not used to flying either" or something like that so that means she was never a pegasus but a unicorn.

Cadence was a unicorn at first tho.
In one of the episode where Discord acting sick she told Twilight "I'm not used to flying either" or something like that so that means she was never a pegasus but a unicorn.

Cadence was a Pegasus as well. But them all of her kindness and love she manifest, Celestia adopted as her niece.
Here’s the reason of Cadence to have become a alicorn.
Another interesting thing, she was orphan and therefore to be adopted by Celestia as her niece, Cadence was raised by normal terrestrial ponies.

@sneha anil I saw the video, it's a fanmade PMV

sunny would like to have a word with you

@sneha anil  the first sunshine sunshine ladybugs awake in the flashback Twilight does when she tells about Cadance before the marriage, I checked it and she was already an alicorn. We didn't see her chronogically before in the serie.

@paiisy which series? And when did this clip happen? (As in, season 3? Season 5?)

@Unicorn Number1 actually there was a clip in the series,

Cadence is a pegasus and two earth pony took her in... later on, she helped someone bad reformed and then she became an alicorn the same way Twilight became an alicorn (Celestia brought her somewhere... idk)

@the (more?) perfect spongebob popsicle No.

@Sotáková Tereza I’m pretty sure I remember it being in the wedding pt 1 pt 2 with chrysalis.

Hey I have proof that cadence started out as a Pegasus because there is a song cadence sang to twilight That she was an orphan Pegasus when two earth ponies took her and raised her.

Well the book in which it was said isn't really canon.

the book that said she was born a pegasus isn't canon, so we have no solid proof

We don’t have any proof that Cadence was a pegasus


In the fandom’s site, there’s a interesting information. When they become princesses ( Celestia and Luna) they didn’t have their marks, cause the alicorns development is really different of the normal pony.
When they’re young, were used to pretend to be princesses.
So it confirms Celestia and Luna already born as alicorns.


I belive it might also have to do with how their body’s comprehend with the magic. See the average pony pry would just explode to bits by being overwhelmed with these 3 magic sources. Although few special ponies where able to control the power.


There is one secret to break the confusion between Luna and Celestia, there is one big book published somewhere, I remember reading it when I was 5/6 years old. The book pointed out details that caught my eye, it pointed to Luna's wings and wrote Pegasi's wings and Celestia's horn a unicorn's horn. Boom, mystery solved.


maybe Flurry Heart actually gained the magic of all 3 ponies through the love and excitement of the ponies of the crystal empire, like Celestia and Luna did from theirs. or something like that. it makes more sense to me since i've always been under the impression that alicorn-ship (AKA the magic of all 3 ponies) isn't an inheritable trait.


This video brings up the whole natural and artificial alicorn debate up again. I would say an artificial alicorn would be like Cozy Glow, she just cheated. She didn't do anything worthy to become an alicorn. She just pumped herself full of magic. I think that a natural alicorn like the princesses earn it through creating new magic, or doing some giant deed.


I always believed that twilight’s ascension was carefully orchestrated specifically to give the act meaning. I’m curious who else thinks Celestia had been planning for it since Discord’s reformation. Maybe she needed him to help. If she had ulterior motives it would begin to explain why she needed him.


I think it's probably impressive to have enough magic for it, as well as the right kind. Twilight ascended and got stronger, mostly on her own merits. Yes, Cozy Glow got it out of a "cheat," but WHAT a cheat it was! I suspect, too, that Trixie probably would've become an Alicorn, eventually, if she'd kept letting the Alicorn Amulet pump her full of madness and dark power.


to add to this🤩 and confirm it, his theory also explains how Sunny became an Alicorn in the movie of Gen 5


now the real question, how can starlight exploit this to become immortal

Honestly to be real I think there are a few ponies who deserve becoming alicorns. *glances at shiningarmor and starlight

@rehelm3 starlight should be able to do the 1st one with ease she is able to control tons and tons of magic

Starlight is already immortal o.o She doesn't even need the wings.

@rehelm3 Now I kinda wanna see a comic where Starlight tries that, with everyone telling her it was a bad idea, but she does it anyway.
Then she absorbs magic from all kinds of creatures and ends up with a pair of wings, but one is a dragon wing and the other is a changeling wing, she has a yak horn in addition to her unicorn horn, a hyppogriff and griffon leg, and hands from a anthro cat and anthro fish.
Everyone around her is shocked, except for Discord, who just goes "Told you it was a bad idea."

If she could somehow repair/reuse Grogar’s Bell she could become an extremely powerful alicorn by absorbing ALL of Grogar’s leftover magic (Cozy Glow only got 1/3 pumped into her).

OR - She could create a new teaching spell and bring about a new type of magic like Twilight’s friendship spell. Since she is the principal of an entire school, absorbing “teaching magic” from a large multi-species student population would make her the most powerful and diverse “Alicorn” in existence.

Theoretically she could do both.


I think there’s an additional leadership quality added onto it. Each of the ponies that are alicorns (as far as i can tell) all share one quality: leadership. Maybe that’s why it seems to tie to royalty, because royals tend to be leaders.


This lines up so much with the way magic works in the new movie


It probably also has something to do with genetics. Based on what we’ve seen in the show and in the movie, there’s a good chance that magic works a lot like a multiple allele controlled trait, like blood type.


In the new movie I think is confirmed, with sunny she receives the three types of magic.


I think you sorta solved many questions with this theory. Especially in questions such as Discord’s existence, the elements, how Luna physically transformed herself, and how magic works in this world. Consider this: Every living thing of this world has it’s own magic. Or more so, every living thing is just a physical personification of what magic they embody. This would also mean that any change in a creatures magical core would cause physical changes in its physical appearance. Luna was able to physically change herself into Nightmare Moon because her jealousy corrupted the nature of her magic core. This theory is very wonderful and eye opening!

Maybe because the magic from the bell was stolen forcefully, rather than given voluntarily. So the magic doesn't want to stay with Cozy and only makes a temporary effect, while the others properly fused with the three tribes' magic.

It's like the difference between getting an actual cutie mark and getting pony pox (the disease that gives fake cutie marks but still gives the talents).

@Rosethz Probably because Twilight, Cadence, Luna and Celestia have been alicorns far longer than Cozy Glow so the magic of the other two tribes haven't settled into her "magic core" and could be same with King Sombra and how Sawtooth theorized that Starswirl took his magic from the other tribes and put it in the Alicorn Amulet most likely because he hadn't been one long enough to keep his wings and earth pony magic. I think that's why is because it has to settle to become permanent for the most part.

Also being an alicorn doesn't have to mean that you're special (other than having magic from the different tribes), it's like Pokemon that to have to evolve with something specific like an item to let them evolve to their final evolution, that won't mean that your Pokemon are gods but instead are just evolved to the best their species can get with help. And what it's probably like if the alicorns who lose their magic shortly after becoming one is like a Mega Evolution where they evolve into their best selves but only until the battles over (when their magic is taken away during the time frame where their alicornship can be taken away). And only a few ponies see alicornship being a sign of royalty like Celestia, Luna and Cadence and after Twilight is transformed and becoming a princess then the Mane 6 join in as well. It can also be used with Sawtooth's theory with Discord, how the mixed chimera creatures in Tartarus could split into their base components but not Discord because being Discord is his base component, so after a certain time frame then being an alicorn with the magic from all 3 tribes will become a base component for the alicorns.

Just my take on this, it's all theories after all!

@Rosethz Probably because Twilight, Cadence, Luna and Celestia have been alicorns far longer than Cozy Glow so the magic of the other two tribes haven't settled into her "magic core" and could be same with King Sombra and how Sawtooth theorized that Starswirl took his magic from the other tribes and put it in the Alicorn Amulet most likely because he hadn't been one long enough to keep his wings and earth pony magic. I think that's why is because it has to settle to become permanent for the most part.

Also being an alicorn doesn't have to mean that you're special (other than having magic from the different tribes), it's like Pokemon that to have to evolve with something specific like an item to let them evolve to their final evolution, that won't mean that your Pokemon are gods but instead are just evolved to the best their species can get with help. And what it's probably like if the alicorns who lose their magic shortly after becoming one is like a Mega Evolution where they evolve into their best selves but only until the battles over (when their magic is taken away during the time frame where their alicornship can be taken away). And only a few ponies see alicornship being a sign of royalty like Celestia, Luna and Cadence and after Twilight is transformed and becoming a princess then the Mane 6 join in as well. It can also be used with Sawtooth's theory with Discord, how the mixed chimera creatures in Tartarus could split into their base components but not Discord because being Discord *is* his base component, so after a certain time frame then being an alicorn with the magic from all 3 tribes will become a base component for the alicorns.

Just my take on this, it's all theories after all!

Except the fact that alicorns are still special because Cozy Glow isn't a real alicorn. Leaves me to think bad things often happen to evil alicorns causing them to lose their alicornhood. Cozy glow lost her horn when Twilight took all the magic the 3 villains stole from the bell. But Twilight still remained an alicorn when Tirek took all her magic, so did Celestia and Luna and Cadence when they gave all their magic to Twilight. Because those 4 alicorns, unlike Cozy, are <b>real</b> alicorns.

Except the fact that alicorns are still special because Cozy Glow isn't a real alicorn. Leaves me to think bad things often happen to evil alicorns causing them to lose their alicornhood. Cozy glow lost her horn when Twilight took all the magic the 3 villains stole from the bell. But Twilight still remained an alicorn when Tirek took all her magic, so did Celestia and Luna and Cadence when they gave all their magic to Twilight. Because those 4 alicorns, unlike Cozy, are *real* alicorns.


I’m fairly certain that alicorns do have special requirements.
They must have strong magic, and they must embody a certain trait.
When thinking like this the magic part is quite easy to get, but the embodiment of a certain trait I don’t think it’s entirely as easy to get a hold of.
By looking at CozyGlow it’s very possible that she embodies a strong negative trait, as we see her manipulative tendencies


The two princesses had a teacher who taught them a lot for a short time, including a lot about magic


I Still think it's something special. If you think about it, all the princesses (including Cozy Glow) did something that set off a chain reaction. It doesn't matter if the chain reaction is good or bad, but once certain events occur the magic from all three tribes goes to the pony. Whether willingly or by force doesn't matter.


Cozy glow wasn't a real Alicorn. The royal sisters are definitely amazing and I think there is everything special about being an alicorn!


The magical core theory presented here made me think, and now I have developed my own headcanon as to how and why Scootaloo can't fly. Long standing theories was her wings being undeveloped and staying that way but Bulk and Tirek proved that wrong on account that Pegasi magic is related to inner magic, confidence and NOT wing size. Knowing Scoot's parents are an Earth Pony and Pegasus, and taking this theory into account, I like to believe that a rare occurrence happened to Scootaloo in which she was born with the body of a Pegasus but the inner magic of an Earth Pony. Wings that can only speed her up and hover because she has no inner magic to fully fly. After all, even a month old baby can fly. But not her.

It'd be rare because we know already that powerful unicorns and pegasi can be born from two earth ponies with dormant genes, so this would be a weird magical disability that doesn't happen much. Similar cases could happen in which a Unicorn can't cast any magic due to having inner magic of a different type of pony.


This does go with the very first episode of season one with princess Celestia telling the tale of Nightmare Moons banishment, stating that there were two unicorn sisters that had the unique abilities to raise the sun and the moon. Thus at some point with their newfound roles in Equestria, they became alicorns.


Dear Sawtooth Waves, <br>In season 4 when Tirek found out what the princesses did with their magic,there was a part where he was talking about him taking all 3 tribes magic,since alicorns have to have all 3 tribes magic to become an alicorn... does that mean Tirek already had alicorn magic?

Dear Sawtooth Waves,
In season 4 when Tirek found out what the princesses did with their magic,there was a part where he was talking about him taking all 3 tribes magic,since alicorns have to have all 3 tribes magic to become an alicorn... does that mean Tirek already had alicorn magic?


In fact, Cadence makes sense with this theory. She has a special talent for love, she gives love and receives love, therefore it is obvious to think that she also received magic from all kinds of ponies.


Cadence is the princess of love, yeah? She just probably got her alicorn magic from how much love she created in all 3 tribes


I don’t think magic is just what we see when it comes to flight, spells, strength, etc. but it’s also influenced by personality. The two exist simultaneously. So if you want to be strong enough for alicorn you also have to work on yourself and learning leadership traits Celestia mentioned at the end of S3 E13. And Twilight didn’t get these traits by studying spells, reading books, she got it by making friends with ponies of different backgrounds. She gained the experience and knowledge to have the magic powerful enough to be an alicorn.

If what I’m saying is trues it would make sense why alicorns are rulers and not non-alicorns. That’s because most non alicorns aren’t strong enough with their own magic to become an alicorn. Cozy Glow became an alicorn by the bell, not by working to become food herself. And Flurry is probably a prodigy and by being in a family of rulers she’s probably a natural born leader and doesn’t need to work on leadership traits. The mane 6 display these traits but probably aren’t experienced enough to have magic powerful enough to be an alicorn. And Starlight, although she is a powerful unicorn, doesn’t have the traits necessary for leadership just yet.


I remember there being this book that came out why back around 2014 or so that was meant to be Celestia’s (and possibly also Luna’s?) diary. The book starts out soon after both of them became Alicorns and were given responsibility over the day-night cycle. So, it might illuminate a bit on this subject.

That being said, despite having previously owned the book and read it myself, that was a LONG time ago, and I’m pretty sure I don’t even have it anymore. Not to mention, I can’t remember how much detail it goes into in regards to how they became Alicorns, or even how canon the book is anymore.


I think this is a good theory! It also fits with the "royal mane" thing going on with Alicorns, which I believe is from a powerful overflow of magic
FIRST you have to have all three kinds to be an alicorn in the first place, only THEN is the amount of magic important
Celestia and Luna have flowing manes because they raise the sun and moon daily which takes a lot of magic
Twilight had the effect a bit when she was filled with their magic, and when she tried to raise the sun
She had more of the effect when she took over controlling the sun and moon permanently in the finale
Cadence (and shining armor I believe) also had the effect when banishing the Changelings from the crystal empire, which was also some pretty powerful magic, cuz yknow, princess of love, on her wedding day, needing a strong spell


Cozy didn't become a real alicorn--she just became one becuase she had so much magic from all three tribes. Notice when that magic was taken away, she became a pegasus again. Temporary alicorn. That's my answer lmao
OK edit- adding to this: honestly maybe her body just couldn't handle all of that sheer power WITHOUT temporarily becoming an alicorn- she is a literal child obviously. But she isn't 'special' like celestia, luna, cadence and twilight; we've seen all four of them have their magic both willingly and unwillingly be taken away (like shadwsonic said) and they remained alicorns. However, cozy reverted back to her original state/race whatever once her magic was taken away becuase she couldn't retain her alicorn-ness once she didn't have all the magic: she was only an alicorn becuase of the magic and nothing else. The only way she could deal with having so much unicorn magic was to grow a horn, and bigger wings becuase of all the pegasus magic.

Cozy didn't become a _real_ alicorn--she just became one becuase she had so much magic from all three tribes. Notice when that magic was taken away, she became a pegasus again. Temporary alicorn. That's my answer lmao
OK edit- adding to this: honestly maybe her body just couldn't handle all of that sheer power WITHOUT temporarily becoming an alicorn- she is a literal child obviously. But she isn't 'special' like celestia, luna, cadence and twilight; we've seen all four of them have their magic both willingly and unwillingly be taken away (like shadwsonic said) and they remained alicorns. However, cozy reverted back to her original state/race whatever once her magic was taken away becuase she couldn't retain her alicorn-ness once she didn't have all the magic: she was only an alicorn becuase of the magic and nothing else. The only way she could deal with having so much unicorn magic was to grow a horn, and bigger wings becuase of all the pegasus magic.

That is an awesome point. Have we seen a non-unicorn or alicorn wield 'magic' (not fly, grow plants/earth, or special talent, but what we would typically call magic)? Maybe the horn was needed to direct the magic, and the larger wings because of the stolen pegasus magic. Since it was stolen, not earned, it could not be kept. Only earning the respect of all three tribes or poissibly being born into it can result in an alicorn

@HatakeSakumoIsTheHottestDad yeah? And? She was still cut out to be an alicorn and properly became one.

so in some ways it's just like how Rarity got her wings for Rainbow Dash's race but cozy glow got the power all along with it

@ShadwSonic  your comment is great would I ever reply this to u

@ShadwSonic oops.... Sorry. Today the comments are going all wrong.

@ashish bector Pretty sure you meant to reply to the comment under mine.

@Wisteria I just think maybe you DO have to be 'special' to be able to actually become an alicorn and stay that way instead of becoming one basically just being your body's way of coping with too much magic. But your point does make sense. Twilight and cadence (I am still a firm believer that celestia and luna were born alicorns tbh. Not completely sure why at this point but hey ho) became actual alicorns because they were meant to, and they were actually <i>made</i> into alicorns by celestia after fulfilling something they were meant to do or whatever. However cozy, like I've said before, just became an alicorn becuase her tiny body took in more magic than it could handle so it turned that magic into a temporary horn and larger wings to be able to deal with it.

@Wisteria I just think maybe you DO have to be 'special' to be able to actually become an alicorn and stay that way instead of becoming one basically just being your body's way of coping with too much magic. But your point does make sense. Twilight and cadence (I am still a firm believer that celestia and luna were born alicorns tbh. Not completely sure why at this point but hey ho) became actual alicorns because they were meant to, and they were actually _made_ into alicorns by celestia after fulfilling something they were meant to do or whatever. However cozy, like I've said before, just became an alicorn becuase her tiny body took in more magic than it could handle so it turned that magic into a temporary horn and larger wings to be able to deal with it.

Jason Funderburger I didn’t think about that but that helps support my theory on alicorns even more so thank you for pointing that out

Uh....
They grow
Ya like I mean alicorns grow
So if celestia and luna were a unicorn before they were alicorns
They would've had giant horns
Their wise enough to get those kind oh horns

What if a pony had to possess all the unicorn, pegasus, and earthpony magic for "___ amount of time" until it fused with their body? Or perhaps there's a specific procedure/spell a pony must go through in order for the three magics to combine with their genetics?

That's why Cozy Glow reverted back to a pegasus. Despite when Tirek took magic from Celestia and the other princesses they still retained their alicorn form.

Very valid point! Hopefully Sawtooth gets to see this!

Contrast that with Celestia, Luna, and Cadance, who each transferred ALL of their magic to Twilight during Tirek's initial escape, yet retained all appendages. It's unclear what Flurry's situation is then, but I personally think of Alicorn ascension like this:
Any pony, regardless of tribe, has the potential to ascend under certain conditions. These conditions are unique to each pony, and relate to their Cutie Mark. For instance, if said mark is for being really fast, then that pony could ascend by reaching a certain speed.
This method tracks with every known ascension: Cadance ascended via a mastery of heart magic, and Twilight by completing a spell so impossibly complicated that not even Starswirl could figure it out (note I said completing it. The spell likely is a one-time permanent boost to the caster's power, which would obviously be hidden by the ascension). Moving the Sun and Moon the first time, especially if it was wrenching them away from Discord, would be enough for Celestia and Luna. And Flurry... if her future Cutie Mark has anything to do with sheer survival, than perhaps she survived a miscarriage somehow. OR, though less likely given her sheer power, she's just a pegacorn and NOT an Alicorn.
Cozy, of course, has NOT done anything similar with her own Mark. After all, for a "chessmaster", she really doesn't make perfect plans. So her power boost may have had elements from all tribes, but not... "mixed together", so to speak.
This might also explain why Sunset and Sci-Twi aren't Alicorns themselves: neither one fits this criteria. Sure, they're both very powerful, and that's why the Ponied-Up versions have wings and horns, but that's more "humane magic is weird by Equestrian standards" than anything else.

Contrast that with Celestia, Luna, and Cadance, who each transferred ALL of their magic to Twilight during Tirek's initial escape, yet retained all appendages. It's unclear what Flurry's situation is then, but I personally think of Alicorn ascension like this:
Any pony, regardless of tribe, has the potential to ascend under certain conditions. These conditions are unique to each pony, and relate to their Cutie Mark. For instance, if said mark is for being really fast, then that pony could ascend by reaching a certain speed.
This method tracks with every known ascension: Cadance ascended via a mastery of heart magic, and Twilight by completing a spell so impossibly complicated that not even Starswirl could figure it out (note I said _completing_ it. The spell likely is a one-time permanent boost to the caster's power, which would obviously be hidden by the ascension). Moving the Sun and Moon the first time, especially if it was wrenching them away from Discord, would be enough for Celestia and Luna. And Flurry... if her future Cutie Mark has anything to do with sheer survival, than perhaps she survived a miscarriage somehow. OR, though less likely given her sheer power, she's just a pegacorn and NOT an Alicorn.
Cozy, of course, has NOT done anything similar with her own Mark. After all, for a "chessmaster", she really doesn't make perfect plans. So her power boost may have had elements from all tribes, but not... "mixed together", so to speak.
This might also explain why Sunset and Sci-Twi aren't Alicorns themselves: neither one fits this criteria. Sure, they're both very powerful, and that's why the Ponied-Up versions have wings and horns, but that's more "humane magic is weird by Equestrian standards" than anything else.


I feel like it’s the amount of magic as well as kind of you think about cozy glow she did receive all three tribes but also a hell ton of it so amount also may play a role


My question is,<br>If being an alicorn gives you immortality, then how could they become alicorn’s at such a young age?

My question is,
If being an alicorn gives you immortality, then how could they become alicorn’s at such a young age?


I'm wondering:<br>If an Alicorn is the combination of all three tribes, what would a pony with the abilities of only two tribes look / be treated like?

I'm wondering:
If an Alicorn is the combination of all three tribes, what would a pony with the abilities of only two tribes look / be treated like?


i have a theory about the day and night cycle. the reason grogars bell is so powerful and full of magic is because he used it to rip magic from everything that surrounds him in pursuit of power- and not just living things. he stole the magic that lasted since time itself, the pure power that governs the day and night cycle, and stole it for himself. this is how the unicorns began to regulate it themselves. i think it’s a cool theory :D


Celestia: you've come such a long, long way
The Microsoft PowerPoint in the background: black screen
Flurry Heart: •-•

Celestia: you've come such a long, long way
The Microsoft PowerPoint in the background: *black screen*
Flurry Heart: •-•

This was a joke about flurry heart being a baby calm down

I know right? Both my microsoft accounts on minecraft are such pieces of shit that I just quit trying and went on without one man Im telling u what having multiple devices with 2 different email accounts = bullshit in my case at least


I would love to see a video explaining how cadence became a alicorn.


Спасибо переводчику от ютуб.

Я думаю, что либо Каденс тоже перешло по наследству крылья, либо она получила крылья во время своей первой кристаллизацией. Если кристаллизация была семейным делом, то тут вопрос о наследстве крыльев, думаю с Каденс все сложнее, чем мы думаем...


Flurryheart and Cadence make sense to me, i feel like alicorn magic comes from..unionization, bringing everything and everyone together- just like the crystal heart does. Because Flurry heart is already connected to the crystal heart, she already by default had all of that.


if you think about it, alicorns have different types of magic that are taken from the tribes.
unicorn - magic
pegasus - flight
earth pony - strength


“We now have proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns!”<br>Wasn’t Cadence originally a Pegasus though too?

“We now have proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns!”
Wasn’t Cadence originally a Pegasus though too?

@Screw_A_Username Yeah. Sort of, like, “Canon until proven otherwise”, the way I see it. And new episodes aren’t being produced, so it’s probably never going to be proven otherwise.

@Voilet Vulpix so Cadence being a Pegasus is tier 2?

@Screw_A_Username From my understanding, it’s tier 2 canon.
Meaning that unless something in the main show (tier 1) contracts it, it can be assumed canon.
And even if it’s not canon, it can also be seen as proof of concept, that the people behind MLP don’t think it’s impossible for a pegasus to become an alicorn.

Bruh why are there so many comments about something that isn’t even cannon

@Voilet Vulpix oh yeah true i think, but itd be nicer to have a tier 1 canon reason instead of tier 2 canon

@°•Lily_Pad•° I might be misinterpreting what you mean, but I wasn’t telling a joke. There’s no punchline to “get”

@Abraham O I thought it was one of those things where it could be considered canon until something higher up in the canonicity tier list contradicted it?

@UCGJYbohXYut8bBaKiFGFIrQ im pretty sure it is but idk its been a while since ive been big on MLP

@carissa Yeah, acualy I forget. I think comic book that focus havely on Cadence is Twilight and cristal heart.

@nicola audyová read the canon fiendship is magic comic book u learn ALOT abt cadence

@Voilet Vulpix Yes that is true. But we do not know backstorie of Cadence and speciali about her birth. As we know Crystal Empier was not part of Equestria back then. Soooo Cadence could be borne as Flurry or based on comic Crystal heart (i thing) that she earned her status as Twilight.

@nicola audyová But Celestia said that the birth of an alicorn was something Equestria had never seen before- that wouldn’t make much sense if Cadence had been born as an alicorn too.

I thing as Flurry she was borne that way.


"We now know that non-unicorn ponies can be an alicorn"<br>But we knew that from when we saw Princess Cadence when she was young, she was a pegasus i thought.

"We now know that non-unicorn ponies can be an alicorn"
But we knew that from when we saw Princess Cadence when she was young, she was a pegasus i thought.

@JadeAMdraws that’s not what I’m saying but it is something that says she was a Pegasus and also google says so as well so it also isn’t canon that she was a unicorn but from all I can remember she was a Pegasus before she was an alicorn, I also I’m not saying the books are true I just agree with the books that she was a Pegasus and with google, It for my childhood was canon that she was a Pegasus

@vanillas sweet there is no real proof that Cadence was actually originally a pegasus. These people think that the non-canon books are canon when they aren't!

@FrenchToast the books aren't canon so Cadence may or may not have been a pegasus but we still can't use that as evidence!

@TMNTqueen 𓆉  The books aren't canon! Don't go around telling people that non-canon things are true!

Your right she was a Pegasus, for some reason a lot of people forget that cadence used to be a Pegasus not a unicorn before she became an alicorn


What if, in addition to recieveing magic from 3 kinds of pony, there were the fact of having in you a unique type of magic that you are the only one who can control and use :

Twilight : has the magic of friendship (and she is the only one who has it, since Celestia need the elements to use it)
Celestia : raises the Sun (and she is so far the only one who can do this, since we don't know if Twilight do this when ruling Equestria)
Luna : raises the Moon and has the magic of exploring dreams (she is also the only one who can do this, she told that to her sister when their cutie marks and powers are switched)
Flurry Heart : has maybe a new type of magic in her (we dont know yet since she's a baby)
Cadence : has the magic of love (and she is also probably the only one who can use it, since we don't see another pony use it), but we don't know how she recieved  magic from 3 kinds of pony...

Cozy Glow : has just recieved the magic of the 3 tribes, and has no unique magic...unless...
When she defeated the royal guards, she created a portal connecting two different places...and we never saw another pony or alicorn do that...
Can it be a unique type of magic that she has recieved from Grogar's bell ? The magic of controling space ?
Could the alicorn that has this magic long ago have created the portal to the Human world ?

So, maybe ponies need these 2 conditions to became alicorns : recieve magic from the 3 kinds of pony AND have a unique magic that they're the only one to control ?

Other question : why does Cozy Glow turn back into a pegasus when her magic is absorbed and other alicorns don't ? Maybe because Cozy Glow doesn't have her OWN unique magic, she recieved it from Grogar's bell.

Hope Sawtooth Waves will read ;)


I definitely think you’re on to something however, there’s this one theory about Alicorn sisters being the essence of the sun and moon and taking pony form. And that they only became rulers just to protect Equestria from the serval ancient evils that was going on and they go stuck ruling equestria for years. So I’d like to combine both of those theories. When it comes to the alicorn mystery


Well, it was Star Swirl's spell that led to Twilight becoming an alicorn, so it's possible he might've become an alicorn himself if he had looked any deeper into it, and it does seem to be his lack of understanding friendship, aka "good", that kept him from becoming one. Meanwhile, with Twilight as a mentor, it's also possible Starlight will become an alicorn in the future. I tend to think Cozy Glow's alicorn form was more a lesson on how alicorn magic can be stolen rather than opening the way for evil alicorns.

It also opens up questions about Flurry Heart, particularly since she's later shown doing something with the Crystal Heart to earn herself a window. I have a feeling her "earning" is more tied up in the trope we see repeated over and over in MLP, that of destiny and a special talent -- a destiny that is perhaps prophecized by her being born an alicorn? Maybe Starlight's messing with time did something here, too, idk -- Rather than it simply being passed on from Cadence, but then, we don't have any other examples of alicorns having kids, so who knows.

Another thought -- maybe at one point in time there WERE evil alicorns, or even a whole tribe of them, and Sombra's Alicorn Amulet, his fall from grace, the sisters defeating him, all somehow played a part in locking away that power so that it could never be used for evil again. Hence all alicorns in the present are good, but maybe that wasn't always so...

Heck, maybe that's what the Crystal Ponies were too before Sombra messed with them -- alicorns, and Flurry Heart somehow returns that power to them. (I think the timeline might be off for that idea, but food for thought!)


“it’s great to know that non unicorns can become unicorns.” ye but cadence wasn’t a unicorn and we already knew that

@Somewhere deep in the jungle it states on google that she was a Pegasus before she was an alicorn. Also it talks about her being a Pegasus in the books

@Starsia Draws I think people assumed that because alicorns are associated as magically powerfull beings, mostly of thema re rich and royal.
In mlp mostly of rich, elegant, powerfull ponies are unicorns and mostly of ponies who do hard work, who are connected with the earth, and needs to work more for money are earth ponies. And pegasus are a medium since they still needs to work in the weather but its not so hard as earth ponies job. This can be clearly seen if you look how  Canterlot, a city where the majority ponies are unicorns is way more "rich" "elegant" and even is where the princeses live, and how that kne city that i forgot the name but its where a part of Apple's family live has the majority of ponies as earth ponies and its more "poor" city. And is already show that the unicorns discriminates the earth ponies and some pegasus
Also just the main cast can proof that:

Twilight - Unicorn, studied in the best school of equestria and was close to celestia, cutie mark related ot mgaic and power

Rarity: unicorn, has a sucessfull boutique, cutie mark related to gems

AppleJack - earth pony, works hard to help her family, cutie Mark related to fruits, nature

Pinkie Pie - earth pony, her faimly works hard in a rock farm, she probably works in the Cake's house so she has a place to live, cutie mark related to non valuable objects

Fluttershy - pegasus, family lives in a comfy house, not rich but also not needs to do hard work

Rainbow Dash - Pegasus, family lives in a comfy place but she does not have a house lmao, was able to work in the most susscesfull and famous non-royal group

@Starsia Draws I think Celestia was a unicorn (why are ppl calling her ‚,Tia” anyways). She needed to somehow raise the sun, and thats kinda what she did back in the day, they made like a play about it, that rasing the sun required combined magic of many wizards and she did it by herself, I cant imagine her rasing a sun with her hooves or wings, but If you can..

I mean.. There was never any reason to believe only unicorns could become alicorns anyway. Twilight is the only one we saw ascend, so even if the show doesn't explain that Cadance was a pegasus, there's no reason to assume that only unicorns could. Hell, we don't even know if Tia and Luna were unicorns.

@Somewhere deep in the jungle it was in a book and the book are canon til something in s2-29 proofs that isnt

That_Random_Artist ye but it’s just fun to imagine

Yes, but since it was never officially stated in the show, some debated if it was canon.

But cozy glow was just an official example of that


I see a lot of comments about how he said Cozy Glow was the first Pegasus to become an alicorn, and that Cadence was the first one. I think he means that she’s the first Pegasus that we see in the show through unconventional means to become an alicorn.


You know ur therory actually can match up with cadence.when she earns her horn from celestia ,celestia certainly had magic from all three tribes and simply just shared her magic with cadence ,same can be said with twighlight <br>On an unrelated note , flurry heart,cadence and cozy glow all have gradients on their wings,i think all alicorns should have  a gradient on their wings.

You know ur therory actually can match up with cadence.when she earns her horn from celestia ,celestia certainly had magic from all three tribes and simply just shared her magic with cadence ,same can be said with twighlight
On an unrelated note , flurry heart,cadence and cozy glow all have gradients on their wings,i think all alicorns should have  a gradient on their wings.


This is a really interesting theory. I personally didn’t think cozyglow meant much because she didn’t become an alicorn properly, she didn’t earn her alicorn-ness, she stole it with ancient magic. I interpreted it as she became an alicorn because there was no other way for a normal pegasus to hold that much magic. We don’t understand how or why grogu’s(?) bell works the way it does and thusfore do not have enough evidence to confidently say whether or not this is a big deal


I think Cadance became an alicorn spread from the light and love spread from one another. Now the crystal ponies are only earth ponies but in a different video (SPOILERS BTW) Cadance was said to be the so called child of the mare and stallion in the story of hearts and hooves theory. This probably made all three tribes spread magic to her. This is just what I think.


I mean
- Long Skinny Legs
- Long Horn
- Huge paper Wings
It’s an alicorn.
a tall earth pony with wings and a magical cone on their head

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I would argue that the earth pony part is why they are tall. AT least taller than non alicorn ponies when full grown.

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@Pudding Pup Pegacorn...Alicorn...Unicorn...ahh!!!!Why isn’t anyone talking about Popcorn!!!😁

{ItzXAmber_YT} <b>i don’t understand</b>

I think what you’re getting at is what fans would call a Pegacorn.

@Discover Weekly Yeah,I never thought of that!But it’s confusing me!

@a Yeah!But old alicorns mane always.....Wave!!!

Twilight's mane didn’t at the 1st time!But when she get old,well then......her mane waves now!But what about Princess Cadance?I didn’t saw her on "The magic of friendship grows" song?Does her mane waves?

then maybe pegasi is just an earth pony with wings

Devon Smith <br>I wish I could just type like that at school 😔

Devon Smith
I wish I could just type like that at school 😔

@a Uh...yeah, I guess?  I mean, technically I wrote paragraphs because sometimes my brain goes into overdrive, my thoughts start rolling like a film reel, and they get translated to written words almost on their own because my fingers are flying with barely a conscious thought.

@Sycofoxx™ 'Her stomach lump went up a bit.'<br>Oh yeah, what some Youtuber I can't remember called the 'princess chest'.

@Sycofoxx™ 'Her stomach lump went up a bit.'
Oh yeah, what some Youtuber I can't remember called the 'princess chest'.

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Twilight in season 1-8 is an exception: She still looks like herself but
Her stomach lump went up a bit
She got a little bigger
Her horn grew a bit

You can simplify it like that, but there's a reason the 'alicorn physique' has been seen by many fans as the best of all three tribes, and just saying they have wings and a magic cone doesn't really do that justice.  A long horn with a pointy tip is probably considered physically attractive by unicorn standards, just like large wings with what appears to be multiple layers of feathers.  After all, the horn is what physically sets unicorns apart, just like the wings of a pegasus.  Their ability with their tribal powers is undoubtedly appealing on a rational level when looking for a mate, but long legs on an earth pony, a long, pointy horn on a unicorn, and large, full wings on a pegasus would be appealing on a base level because earth ponies are naturally stronger and have greater stamina which long legs would complement if the need would arise that said pony would need to flee from danger, a sharp horn is a natural weapon that would allow a unicorn to fend off an attacker even if they lacked magic ability, and fuller wings could more easily generate lift and could also more effectively be used to make the pegasus appear larger than they really are; both viable strategies for dealing with threats.

These traits would improve child survivability in the wild environment that the instincts of civilized creatures will always be wired for, especially for unicorns who need to actively work to harness and refine their tribal powers, but also for earth ponies and pegasus ponies, whose powers are more innately linked to the simple use of their biological advantages over the other tribes, but as foals wouldn't be developed in ways that could be used to fend off attackers like a built-in spear.  Now obviously all this base attraction stuff isn't what the ponies look for in mates anymore, given the number of relatively stubby-horned unicorns there are running around, but one can logically assume, if they're the kind of person who would fill in details like this that wouldn't be in the show for obvious reasons, that this is roughly how it would have worked before civilization and that there would be some reaction to seeing long legs on an earth pony, a long spike of a horn on a unicorn, a pair of big down quilts for wings on a pegasus, or an alicorn.

...and this went on far longer than it had any right to...

You can simplify it like that, but there's a reason the 'alicorn physique' has been seen by many fans as the best of all three tribes, and just saying they have wings and a magic cone doesn't really do that justice.  A long horn with a pointy tip is probably considered physically attractive by unicorn standards, just like large wings with what appears to be multiple layers of feathers.  After all, the horn is what physically sets unicorns apart, just like the wings of a pegasus.  Their ability with their tribal powers is undoubtedly appealing on a rational level when looking for a mate, but long legs on an earth pony, a long, pointy horn on a unicorn, and large, full wings on a pegasus would be appealing on a base level because earth ponies are naturally stronger and have greater stamina which long legs would complement if the need would arise that said pony would need to flee from danger, a sharp horn is a natural weapon that would allow a unicorn to fend off an attacker even if they lacked magic ability, and fuller wings could more easily generate lift and could also more effectively be used to make the pegasus appear larger than they really are; both viable strategies for dealing with threats.

These traits would improve child survivability in the wild environment that the instincts of civilized creatures will always be wired for, especially for unicorns who need to actively work to harness and refine their tribal powers, but also for earth ponies and pegasus ponies, whose powers are more innately linked to the simple use of their biological advantages over the other tribes, but as foals wouldn't be developed in ways that could be used to fend off attackers like a built-in spear.  Now obviously all this base attraction stuff isn't what the ponies look for in mates anymore, given the number of relatively stubby-horned unicorns there are running around, but one can logically assume, if they're the kind of person who would fill in details like this that wouldn't be in the show for obvious reasons, that this is roughly how it would have worked before civilization and that there would be _some_ reaction to seeing long legs on an earth pony, a long spike of a horn on a unicorn, a pair of big down quilts for wings on a pegasus, or an alicorn.

...and this went on far longer than it had any right to...

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Yea but its also responsibility-
if pony's didn't had alicorns to look after equestria itself would fall into darkness
if pony's had to vote the ruler their will be a competition of ruling equestria
plus if pony decided who should be rulers then the soon to be rulers might only bring disaster
equestria will fall off balance without harmony of the alicorns
some are afraid of dark and dangerous creatures. lets be honest here half of equestria's pony always rely on the princesses to solve their problems even as simple as deciding on a winner for flowers. if there's no alicorns then no harmony, equestria needs alicorns for earth pony's, pegasus, and unicorns to stop finding and be in harmony
if alicorns weren't special and just a pony with 3 elements equestria would have fall in discord chaos, nightmare moon's terra, and etc-
and the final battle, earth ponys pegasus and alicorns were selfish just to protect their own kind and didn't thought of each other's tribe- and a pony said and i quote "its every pony's for themselves*
so yea pony needs alicorns

XD LOL not enough short words for this comment

Btw if unlook at the toys for luna and tia on ebay or gifts dubai .com even the baby celestia plushie I have has odd shaped wings and a skinny horn and legs same with luna also Ive looked at the pics of the filly plushes so cute! It seems in general with alicorns the horns and wings are always bigger

LOL So frinking right. And that is not a typo, it is from a book series.

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This is a totally different theory that this video helped me understand just by mentioning the sisters stepping up to
raise the sun and moon here's what I'm thinking: The sisters might have got there
 cutie marks there first time they raised
 the sun and moon because there cutie marks looked like the sun and moon.
And when Twilight was getting magic from the other princesses in the episode
Twilight's kingdom the other princesses
Lost there cutie marks.

And moon


once the magic was taken away from cozy, she went back to a pegasus whereas for the princesses, when they lost their magic, they still stayed the same.


As much as this makes more sense, what's weird is how, if you look at Twilight's transformation (not her transportation into the starry place, but the actual transformation itself), the magic that makes her an alicorn seems to come from within her, not from the other Mane Five. So it doesn't make sense that she transformed with magic from them.


I think being an alicorn is special thing. And Cadence is a alicorn because she spreads love.❤


My theory has always been that all ponies are born with a certain level of magic from all 3, magic that combines and is passed down to their children.  This theory would explain the Cakes, who are Earth ponies having a Pegasus and unicorn.  It also explains Flurryheart.  Shining Armor is a powerful unicorn and may even have a decent amount of Earth pony magic, but very little pegasi magic.  Cadence may have a great deal of pegasi magic and the necessary amounts of unicorn and earth pony magic to make her an alicorn.  So when these two had Flurry, she pretty much got the necessary amount of magic to be born an alicorn.


The book from cadences past told that she was an orphan and was adopted. The light and love she gave must have earned magic from all three tribes


What's special about being an alicorn is alicorns utilize all types of pony magic: Earth, pegasus and unicorn. Much like the avatar, it is the combination of the three types of magic in one pony that makes an alicorn so powerful. But beyond that, and the fact that natural alicorns seem to age more slowly and are thus older when they get their cutie marks, alicorns really are ordinary ponies. They're flawed, they have quirks, they have hobbies and dreams, they have fears and dislikes, and they value relationship as much as any other pony.


When flurry heart was born the sisters said "A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen"<br>So I think they got there wings buy showing everypone that they can lift the sun and moon, this gave them wings blah blah blah blah. Also celestya had pink hair she only got pastel hair from when she used the elements to banish nightmare moon or luna.

When flurry heart was born the sisters said "A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen"
So I think they got there wings buy showing everypone that they can lift the sun and moon, this gave them wings blah blah blah blah. Also celestya had pink hair she only got pastel hair from when she used the elements to banish nightmare moon or luna.