You know how each alicorn supposedly represents a type of love? Well, one is easily forgotten. Mania: the greedy, obsessive love. This fits cozy quite well. She was obsessed with the power gained by friendship, much like someone obsessed with the attention from a relationship. Both are willing to go great lengths to get what they want, even if it means hurting others. And when their plan fails, they will only go on to make more plans and what not (IF they don't get the help that they need). This fits pretty well to me.

Also, on that note about alicorns representing the types of love: is there an alicorn for hatred? Or some sort of anti-alicorn?

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It would also explain why the mane 6 didn't turn into alicorns when they stopped tirek. When they defeated tirek, they absorbed the magic he stole AND THEN returned it to their rightful owners. The mane six would have temporarily became alicorns if it was just about magic. One could argue that in the following scenes they returned the magic to the respective ponies (e.g. pinkie pie and apple jack returning the magic to the earth ponies), BUT every type of pony lived everywhere. Sure, Manehattan had mostly unicorns, but there is nothing stopping a pegasus or an earth pony from living there. Sunburst, a unicorn, lived in the crystal empire, a place filled with crystal ponies, after all. In order to return everyponies magic in one foul swoop (as they seemed to have done), the mane 6 would have had to each absorbed the magic of all the types of ponies, which would have turned them all into alicorns.

@Kayleigh Hayes I don’t think there can be an anti-alicorn or one for hatred.every alicorn shows a type of bond between people,but hate isn’t a bond so I don’t think so. But there can be one for a manipulative relationship and other types of toxic relationships because you can be in a toxic relationship.

This theory makes a lot of sense.I love it.

Yeah I think that's why cozy became an Alicorn she had magic inside her heart but greedy love magic


My theory for cadence is perhaps she received the same love and light the sisters did. when she was out and about casting spells of love, the ponies gave her love in return. pair that with the public announcement that celestia had adopted her as her niece, she must have been well supported and popular enough to become a ruler. Though i feel Cadence is different. Not only does she have magic from all three tribes, but also from the crystal ponies.

another theory off topic. perhaps flurry is half crystal pony. The magic they gave her mom might have passed on the same way the alicorn magic did. If thats the case i can see her being even more fitting to be the ruler of the empire.

Edit: yes this does contradict the fact that cadence was born a pegasus, which i really like btw, but it was never canonically proven that she was :/


So... The theory is that if you have magic from all three tribes, you become an alicorn. So vice versa, if that magic is removed, then you revert to your natural form. But... I would like to point out the season 4 finale. Celestia, Luna, and Cadence all willingly gave every single bit of alicorn magic they had within them to Twilight so that Tyrek could not steal it. And after that, Twilight willingly gave all that magic and her own to Tyrek in order to save her friends. So why didn't they revert back to their natural forms then? Maybe they had just been alicorns long enough that it had become their natural form? Or maybe there was something different about how they became alicorns?


Pretty much an alicorn is a pony that discovered a new type of magic, unicorn or pegasi. That type of magic should have magic from all three tribes. And i agree with how you explained flurry heart it is possible cadance transmitted some magic to her daugther, if thats not it its either she represents the crystal heart or what happened in the crystaling which presents love or family.


You have a point, but there's one detail you overlooked. After Cozy Glow was drained, she returned to being a normal Pegasus. To compare, the princesses maintained their alicorn status every time that they lost their magic. So I don't think that cozy was ever a true alicorn. You can fake being an alicorn with sufficient magical power, but just like rarities fake wings from season 1, it's an illusion that will fall apart as soon as the power is lost.


Des.: Why cozy, flurry,Twilight, celestia and Luna became Alicorns !

Cadence: am I a joke to you?

@lawrence rutherford Chrysalis is not a Alicorn because she isnt a pony, plus changeling dont have earth pony's magic

Yep she would say that that is totally true so I totally kill Sawtooth waves

@deleted user yeah it kind of Funny since he didn't forgot flurry heart but forgot her mother

@Fanny yes but she is more widely known as (in the show and fandom)as Princess Cadence or it you meant it as a joke?

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Her name is not Cadence, it's Mi Amore Kadenza

@Book Thoughts I wrote a whole comment on this from the book I typed out the section that this cake from.

THEY FORGET CADENCE!?

she's a mom though
Her boyfriend that became husband had a baby QWQ FUCK

And when I watched the crystaling, I flipped out when I saw Flurry Heart.

@lawrence rutherford that makes alot of sense.

@ᴀʀᴛʟᴇ I thought so, i was pretty certain the Royal Wedding episodes showed that.

@Sara Samaletdin i agree i love her Alicorn story more than Twilight (who is my favourite character) so it kind of sad that not many people discuss it.

Cadence actually is most interesting case and not many even know her origin since it’s not from the show so it should be discussed.

Yeah, wasn't Cadence canonically a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn? O.o

Cadence saved her home from an evil enchantress so she would have earned it

i mean she did become the alicorn of love
wihich in theory she helped all three of the strives and went from pegasus to unicorn
in theory btw
so that would have explained why she was struggling with her magic on the crystal empire
but nobody knows

All ponys gave love to the crystal heart so thats the thing I think

Well unfortunately the show never told us how she became one. The Book of the evil enchantress wasn’t unfortunately written by the show. So ut wasn’t canon. So we have no idea how. She probably became one the same way Celestia and Luna  and twilight became one.

@Amanda Jimenez-Santiago only to season 5 tho D;

@Zebra Roll Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell.  Candence's story of how she became be an alicorn is Canon. Everything else in the book... Eh.

@Henrique Gabardo it's in a book or something. I don't quite remember because I haven't watched anything pony related in a long time but I believe there is an official book about it? Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Wait, when did it show candance was born pegasus °~°

@ᴀʀᴛʟᴇ i know, the villain that stole all the love was the witch. in essence that stolen love contained the power of all the different races and when it was released some of it went to cadence

@lawrence rutherford actually she was a born Pegasus but true

power of friendship or love in this case, normal rules do not apply (also the witch i believe was a unicorn and she had the love of her whole town so its similar to the 2 sisters)


After seeing the g5 movie this is nice to watch. You were right, congrats


My theory:
                  Any pony can be an alicorn by receiving magic from all the three tribes.... but the magic is temporary. When the magic goes in the pony only the appearance changes but when a pony does something '' extraordinary " he/she goes into a different realm which not only changes their appearance but something in their bodies... We saw in magical mystery cure that something came out from twilight body which then caused to get her wings which is permanent ......
                Now the difference is that when the magic is drained from the pony which did not went to the different realm will have his horn/wings/ both removed whereas the pony which went in the different realm, will not have any changes except in magic because he/she has her body changed ...... That's why the princesses' wing/horn/both doesn't vanish when their magic drains....
              Now, onto Celestia and luna, the story that you told makes sense but what if while the pony give their magic to the princesses, they went to that same realm and some pony was waiting for them ........
I think it was star swirl since he was the princesses' teacher and he knew that they had the potential to rule over equestria....... The cutie marks may made star swirl sure that were the future rulers  of equestria


Theory: Alicorns flowy manes. I have never in my years seen a theory that neatlyfits about alicorns manes, but I think I've solved it. (Or at least there isn't anything in g4's cannon that contradicts this, that I know of)
Maybe, just maybe, an alicorn gets a flowy mane when they become the prime ruler of Equestria. Celestia is the first main ruler of Equestria that we see and , low and behold, flowy mane. Luna gets brought back and no flowy mane at first, but that can be easily explained. When she first comes back from the moon after a thousand years, the chances are that Luna didn't go back to her former status right away, but once she did, she also got the flowy princess mane. Flash way forward to the g4 finale, we don't see any princess other than Twilight (flowy mane and all) in the finale, so we don't know whether Celestia and Luna still have their flowy manes or if Cadence ever got a flowy mane. But we do know that at some point after taking over as the main ruler of Equestria, Twilight got her flowy mane. Since we see Flurry on a stained glass window in Canterot Castle and her mane appears to be normal, we can assume that she doesn't have the flowy mane effect.
There are definitely holes in this theory, but it's the tidiest one that I've seen


I think I know why cozy glow returned to being a Pegasus when she was drained of magic unlike the other alicorns it's because her transformation into an alicorn resulted in a unstable form because the magic inside her was not harmonious thus cozy had gone only halfway through the process of ascension.


Even if anypony can become an Alicorn, Alicorns are supposed to be the most powerful  ponies in all of Equestria such power shouldn't be in the wrong hooves, and Nightmare Moon and Cozy Glow are proof that not everypony is worthy or deserving of such power...especially someone as evil as Cozy Glow not only did she not deserve to be an alicorn but she abused that power by using it for evil.

@Sanaai Bahr Well i'm sorry too, but it's not my fault what you said sounded mean, i mean to me it sounded like you were basically saying "No shit sherlock" like you thought TCD was an idiot or something.


Flurry Heart I chalked up to the fact that as far as we know- there has never been a foal born of an Alicorn and in this case a unicorn. And while yes Cadance wasn't likely originally an Alicorn she is one now - which affected things.


Celestia and Luna never ascended, the show's creator said they were both born alicorns to alicorn parents. My theory is that they were the last natural-born alicorns, and them both being female and sisters meant the species couldn't continue without magical intervention. Thus, artificial alicorns created with magic.


I just realized that flurry heart technically  had the magic before she was born the love her parent had for her and the love other pony's had for her could have been the key to her getting to be alicorn


Hang on..... they all had to accomplish something though,  even cosy glow
Twilight-finish the spell
Selestia/Luna- rotation of day and night
Cosy glow- retrieve the bell and find the magic in friendship
Cadence-descover the power of love
They all had to achieve something before becoming a alicon


Well my theory is that Cadence is already a ruler of the crystal empire and sometimes if people became royalty they usually make their kid the next generation ruler , ruler means an alicorn so when Flurry heart is older she will 100% be the new ruler of the crystal empire. If not how can she be an alicorn without doing anything?


Well now that I know that obtaining magic is the way to get alicorn details.Does that mean that Starwirl's spell was a magic enchancer? but actually needed friendship to use?


One issue with the Celestia and Luna flashback - weren't they already alicorns <i>and</i> rulers by the time they took over the day/night cycle, according to the play? (And the Journal, as dubiously canon as anything from that still is). Also, I don't like how much you glossed over Cadance in this. She deserves a more proper explanation by far.

One issue with the Celestia and Luna flashback - weren't they already alicorns _and_ rulers by the time they took over the day/night cycle, according to the play? (And the Journal, as dubiously canon as anything from that still is). Also, I don't like how much you glossed over Cadance in this. She deserves a more proper explanation by far.


Have you every read the books? They explain a lot about Cadence's and Nightmare Moons backstory (though I've only read a few)


GROGAR’S BELL had alicorn magic inside so cozy was getting pumped full of already formed alicorn magic so she just gained the horn from the formed alicorn magic.


I feel like Cozy Glow used that red amulet that Trixie used in the magic battle, season 1 or 2..


When Cozy Glow becomes a alicorn, she doesn't gain any growth from the earth pony side, however, we know she should have it because her foal body is supporting a full grown mare's alicorn wings, which are bigger than normal thus needing extra growth. idk just a nitpick


I thought Cozy Glow was like Rarity in that one episode. A “fake” alicorn.

When cozy glow when becomes an ailacorn her wings are well similar to twilight’s

@Twilight Nova That's a really weak connection. I think you're stretching. Taping fake wings to your back is not the same as becoming an alicorn.

@TriggerHappyEevee i just say I don't think Cozy was a fake alicorn. Turned out because of the events to be a temporary alicorn, but I don't think it means she was a fake one.

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@רוני בן עזרא they didn't actually call rarity an alicorn they're just comparing it to when she had those wings

Oh. These were not pegasus wings, so that doesn't count. Cozy's were extra pegasus wings.

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When Rarity got the butterfly wings, I mean. רוני בן עזרא

She clearly mentioned being an alicorn, it was not an animation mistake.

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I think Cadence is the only princess we don’t have a backstory for at all. We don’t even know what she was the princess of before they started ruling the crystal empire.


So I used to not think that non-unicorns could be alicorns, then Cozy Glow came along and I didn’t know that was proof until I started watching Sawtooth


I think I know how cadence  became an alicorn. In the book on how cadence became an alicorn she spread love to everypony from all three tribes. Their love and thrree tribes magic went into cadence slowly. I don't know the book really well but I know that there was a villain who tried to stop love or take love or something. Cadence stood up and shared her love and the made her prove to be an alicorn. The villains one of the third tribes magic went into cadence while celestia watched. She saw that Cadence was now more than worthy to be an alicorn. She teleported cadence to her castle and used the three tribes love magic to make her become an alicorn. She got  horn and her coronation follows.... so yeah that is how I think cadence became an alicorn.


GEN 5 SPOLERS)?

This dude literally predicted how Sunny from the new movie became an alicorn, like, the 3 tribes united again, that generated de magic on the three tribe's crystals and made Sunny an alicorn; well, at leats that's how I see it lol

@Ellie I have no clue. It really did get borked.

@KuroiPhox What's wrong with that mention? Seems it got borked up a little.

@UC94KTFWDjp3I4tJYNKF9dTg Oh no, I totally agree and I'm looking forward to seeing if she ascends. I hope she gets a better ascension than Twilight.

@KuroiPhox  I think it's plausible that Sunny has potent alicorn magic within her now, and will be able to call upon that magic, functioning as a sort of power-up. But otherwise, the magic isn't strong enough yet to fully transform her.

She may also become a proper alicorn eventually, but as of yet, there are still many journeys to come for her before that happens.

@KuroiPhox  I think it's plausible that Sunny has potent alicorn magic within her now, and will be able to call upon that magic, functioning as a sort of power-up. But otherwise, the magic isn't strong enough yet to fully transform her.

She _may_ also become a proper alicorn eventually, but as of yet, there are still many journeys to come for her before that happens.

The writers have stated that Sunny's Alicornification is a temporary form, though so, if it was a simple as the magic of all 3 tribes making an alicorn then Sunny's ascension would be permanent.

I came back to this video, solely for this reason. Now Sawtooth's theory has even more proof. How is he this good at theories?


Celestial said in the “behold, princess Twilight sparkle” that she become a alicorn because she have created NEW magic

I think maybe the creation of New magic was the thing that activated the Elements of Harmony. And like Sawtooth said, Luna and Celestia believe you have to do something big to becone an alicorn so maybe she just jumped to that conclusion xd

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Solving alicorns is easy.<br>If the story needs an alicorn, they become an alicorn.

Solving alicorns is easy.
If the story needs an alicorn, they become an alicorn.


I think alicorns come into existence through specific spells. It's not power or ascension, it's just a variation of one spell that grants the pony in question lots of magic and the power of the three tribes. Since we only know of the Sisters, Cadence and Twilight as alicorns in the MLP-verse it makes sense as to why they were all surprised Flurry was born an alicorn, afterall the sisters and twilight never had kids so how would they know if the alicorn gene could be passed on or not. As of canon knowledge, Cadence is the only alicorn to reproduce in the show so it would stand to reason that once becoming an alicorn they can also have other alicorns.


Cozy Glow seems like a person who can become a mortal god and be like "I could kill all of you with a Slingshot" she demeans anyone who power isnt her Strong suit the way a Pure Strength Warrior would a Warrior who is boosted by their character and enchantments. Pure Strength Warrior would mock the enchantments but the Enchantmente and purity of Character can shatter whatever Strength itself can do.


It could also be that alicorns are rare and that the amount of magic needed is Extremely large


Also cozy glow wasn’t really a alicorn.
She only turned into one after using the bell.
Because it was Grogar and Discords magic.

Also cozy glow wasn’t really a alicorn.
She only turned into one after using the bell.
Because it was *Grogar* and *Discords* magic.

She absorbed Discord's magic after she became an Alicorn.

Not discord’s. It wasn’t Grogars either. Grogar had his magic and so did discord. In the bell was the magic of other ponies (not current modern day ones but ancient Pegasus, unicorn and earth ping.) AFTER they absorbed the magic in the bell they put discord’s into the bell

She became an alicorn when she absored the mahic with all 3 tribes magic stolen and had some extra grogar magic to make her even more powerful. After that they stole discords magic and then she decided to be a giny pig and could not control it.

Nate Yee Grogars magic was in the bell too.


I think both topics have something to do with it, it takes all tribes magic for a unicorn to be an alicorn, but it does take how much they are worthy and have good leadership, but when Cozy Glow used that dark magic to transform herself... I'm afraid she broke that cycle. What if after using dark magic she did use all the tribe magic, but she did nothing good to deserve that... what if she DID break the cycle of being worthy?


There is something I’m wondering about the magic from the three tribes- what if a pony were to consume magic from one tribe and not the only other tribes would we get something different than an alicorn


Celestia got her powers when she learned how to move the sun and moon together. Luna got her powers when she learned how to move the moon. Luna didn't have to learn both the sun and moon because Celestia already had the sun. That's how they got their powers.


I think that the ponies who gave respect and care are what gave the sister princesses their magic. It was a united front that gave the sisters their titles.


From the season 4 finale, it is shown that the princesses can transfer their magic to others. Does this mean they can turn others into Alicorns? Can one revert from being an Alicorn? When cosy glow got hit by the elements she got reverted but when the princesses lose their magic by giving it up or by it being taken by the bell, they do not lose their alicornship.

I also just noticed that in the finale, it shows a specific scene of grogar’s bell cracking but after that moment, it seemed to be working fine.

What Issac said, because her magic was not given to her, it does not become hers, and therefore she reverts when it is taken. When the princesses gave twilight their magic, it was only a temporary thing, so they did not revert, because they were still connected to the magic. <br>Another aspect could be that the biology of being an alicorn is kind of like getting a perm, it takes a while to set in. Since cozys magic was stolen, her biology wasn't affected, only temporarily altered like an add-on. It didn't have enough time to set because the magic was not freely given. It didn't entwine with her natural state of being, where twilight, Luna, Celestia, and cadance magic all did because their magic was given and mingled with their natural magic. Kind of an oil and water vs water and water sort of thing, with cozy being the former and the other alicorns being the latter.

What Issac said, because her magic was not given to her, it does not become hers, and therefore she reverts when it is taken. When the princesses gave twilight their magic, it was only a temporary thing, so they did not revert, because they were still connected to the magic.
Another aspect could be that the biology of being an alicorn is kind of like getting a perm, it takes a while to set in. Since cozys magic was stolen, her biology wasn't affected, only temporarily altered like an add-on. It didn't have enough time to set because the magic was not freely given. It didn't entwine with her natural state of being, where twilight, Luna, Celestia, and cadance magic all did because their magic was given and mingled with their natural magic. Kind of an oil and water vs water and water sort of thing, with cozy being the former and the other alicorns being the latter.

Its because cosy glows was stolen magic.


I mean I originally thought Flurry was an Alicorn since Cadence was originally a pegasus and Shining is a unicorn, and Cadence could've had earth pony relatives, I'm thinking of a similar scenario to the cake twins being a unicorn and pegasus born to earth ponies. Like if Cadence or Shining had an earth pony relative, it could've transferred to Flurry as well as the pegasus and unicorn genes. At least that's what I originally thought of. But it is possible that any alicorn can have a natural alicorn as a child, since no other alicorns but Cadence have a child. <br>I do find this theory cool though! Keep up the good work!

I mean I originally thought Flurry was an Alicorn since Cadence was originally a pegasus and Shining is a unicorn, and Cadence could've had earth pony relatives, I'm thinking of a similar scenario to the cake twins being a unicorn and pegasus born to earth ponies. Like if Cadence or Shining had an earth pony relative, it could've transferred to Flurry as well as the pegasus and unicorn genes. At least that's what I originally thought of. But it is possible that any alicorn can have a natural alicorn as a child, since no other alicorns but Cadence have a child.
I do find this theory cool though! Keep up the good work!


Something though.... Neither Celestia, Luna, Cadence, or Twilight lost their wings or horns when the magic was taken out given up. Cosy did, suggesting that there's something inherently special about keeping their alicorn forms. There has to be a biological change, and Cosy didn't get that change.


imagine being an earth pony and turning into an alicorn tho... that's like 2 whole other things to suddenly get into . as an earth pony you're just used to your strength you've never thought of having unicorn magic or how it even works to have a horn nor have you ever had Two Whole Wings attached to your back before. that would be insane. even crazier to think of an earth pony either so adored or so whatever else that they just casually became an ALICORN


Ive always veiwed it as a "reached their full potential" type thing. Since ponies are born with something of a destiny, like their cutie marks show, maybe they are alsp born with a maximum potential they need to reach before becoming an alicorn. Since cozy was evil she didnt really have any emotional potential, but when she received a bunch of magic, far more magic than she ever wouldve accomplished on her own, she surpassed her full potential. And maybe since flurry was born an alicorn, she already reached her full potential, thus she didnt have any emotional or physical growth to reach.


Patch 1.4.7<br>Alicorn status is easier to get now, due to balancing concerns.

Patch 1.4.7
Alicorn status is easier to get now, due to balancing concerns.

Patch 1.4.8<br>The Alicorn class achievement difficulty has been raised to levels before 1.4.7 due to a bug resulting in the amount of magical power received by Alicorns being more than 10x the intended amount.

Patch 1.4.8
The Alicorn class achievement difficulty has been raised to levels before 1.4.7 due to a bug resulting in the amount of magical power received by Alicorns being more than 10x the intended amount.


Everyone seems to forget that there are 5 tribes(not including alicorns ) The CRYSTAL PONIES! Twilight had magic from the crystal ponies as well. Season 3 episode 2 . No one ever mentions the CRYSTAL PONIES!!


в одной из серий более поздних сезонов (6-8) была ситуация, когда Твайлайт и Флаттершай должны были помочь двум семьям/племенам пони, между которыми была вражда<br>интересный факт заключается в том, что Флаттершай тяжело было лететь с грузом, который взяла Твайлайт, а второй было наоборот очень легко

в одной из серий более поздних сезонов (6-8) была ситуация, когда Твайлайт и Флаттершай должны были помочь двум семьям/племенам пони, между которыми была вражда
интересный факт заключается в том, что Флаттершай тяжело было лететь с грузом, который взяла Твайлайт, а второй было наоборот очень легко


anyone can slap on a crown and say their royalty, i think bc they’ve earned their wings/horn from being good leaders or accomplishing something, their looked up as royalty.
royal ponies bestow that power onto new ponies, and since said ponies were entrusted with the power from royalty their looked up to as just as powerful.

no one bowed down to cozy glow bc she was an alicorn. her horn and wings didn’t make her more important bc to most ppl she’s still either evil and disliked, or unknown of and a stranger to ponies.
i think becoming a alicorn from a past alicorn (celesta making twilight an alicorn) is so important is bc there’s obviously some old accident powerful root of magic that gave alicorns the ability to exist. like how people with royal blood in irl are bowed down to, even if originally plain ordinary people. once they reserve that specific root of magic they bc pony royalty i guess.
flurry heart was most likely a surprise bc an alicorn has never been born an alicorn. sure their parents could have been alicorns, but if their parents aren’t BORN alicorns then it’s not in their gens. like how if you got your arm amputated in ur 20’s, your kid wouldn’t be born without an arm.


Your videos single handedly got me back into the MLP fandom


Ya, but there is one thing that ruins everything, as you remember Grogar stole Alicorns magic but All the 4 alicorns at the time have remained alicorns, as for Cozy Glow, it didn’t last

So my theory is that you can become an alicorns using that much magic, but it can be taken away easily from you if you don’t have something important in you, still don’t know what it is but maybe one day I’ll know

And lastly I think that your theory about sister love, partner love, friendship and parent love was pretty lit and fitting, maybe Crysalis’ love was the love for the hive?

Or something like mentor - disciple love thing? But she used it to wrong purposes and that’s why she wasn’t a “pure” alicorn?

Well the way the magic was removed was different. Cozy Glow forced the magic out of innocent ponies (using grogars bell), but it was the magic of friendship that made Cozy Glow lose her alicorn features

"Sawtooth waves definitely an earthpony"  his words not mine!...

Or maybe it's because Tirek took away most of the pegasus, unicorn, and earth pony magic away from the princesses and they're still left with a bit of all three types of magic to keep them as alicorns but just not enough to be utilized while the bell took away all of Cozy's unicorn and earth pony magic and left her with pegasus magic which was why she reverted back to a pegasus.

Also Chrysalis isnt a pony she isnt a alicorn, Changelings and Ponys are completely different beings

I Thibk that it has 3 ways of becoming a Alicorn
- Being born a Alicorn (Flurry Heart)
- Another Alicorn makes you an Alicorn (Twilight and Candance)
- having a huge quantity of all 3 types of pony's magic

Also some people forget that was Celestia who turn Twilight an alicorn, it wasnt a automatic thing, plus Celestia is planning it a long time ago because she refers King Sombra and the Crystal Empire as a test to know if she is ready, and she says that she is planning it a long time ago.

@Arilizart Welp, me neither but I can talk with my friends about cows so I’m not surprised ^^’

@Nightfall Blackwell was not expecting to see this on a mlp theory video but sure

@Arilizart you know what? You’re a smart cookie >:3 and you like drawing form what I’ve seen~
Wanna be friends? :3

Edit: Oh and for chrysalis, even if she’s a different species I actually still count her as an alicorn because she’s got wings and a horn, and basically it’s the whole definition of an alicorn, just some pony with wings and a horn, but Thorax wasn’t so coderez as an “alicorn” so maybe you’re somewhere right, it’s really hard to tell 😕

This is troubling. Especially since cozy glow returned to being a pegasus after the magic was taken away.
Maybe it has something to do with the methodology of how she received the magic? Having unicorn magic just yeeted into her wildly may have transformed her physically, but maybe such a crude method wasn’t powerful enough to permanently change her.
This is just me idk, i never count chrysalis for anything alicorn related because she is a whole different species. (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀)

Luna Kai That’s the thing, since the show finished that way, (they went kinda fast in my opinion) there are still a lot of unexplained things, like in Gravity Falls, so we can’t really know unless they say it clearly or give us an other hint, which I sadly think will not happen

I could see it. Also maybe, and I could be stretching it here, but maybe Chrysalis looks the way she does because the magic took it’s toll on her physically and mentally? Maybe it’s because she didn’t have that extra other thing you mentioned that she and the other changelings (pre season 6) look the way they do? They were missing  a key component in the alicorn “recipe”, so the intense amount of magic broke them down over the many years? A sort of law of  equivalent exchange situation?  Or, then again, maybe not


This is a really cool theory but I just have one question with it. What about the changelings. they have wings and horns. Yes they are a whole other species but queen crystalis is a lot like the alicorn queens, she’s taller has bigger wings and a bigger horn.


This explains the new movie, where at the end they only got the magic parts of all three and not just grew the body parts.


it always bothered me that twilight was the only one to get a royal status, when all 6 of them saved the world a thousand times. but i know twilight studied the most and was the most skilled in magic. so i’m not complaining that she’s a princess. but isn’t there any other thing the other 5 could have gotten? another royal status? at least a place in a castle to live. but with alicorns just being a combination of all three tribe’s magic, maybe they should have all been alicorns. previously we thought an alicorn has to achieve some great deed to deserve it, but flurry didn’t do anything. then again all alicorns are princesses. whatever i just wish the ponies would have gotten more

edit: ok so what if they all become alicorn princesses, but twilight and later starlight are like the superior ones. like how celestia and luna have greater power than cadance


There's one simple answer to all movie/animated/whatever questions:<br>It's in the script. Just accept it.

There's one simple answer to all movie/animated/whatever questions:
It's in the script. Just accept it.


I think that the theory it's great, but there's a small detail, the journal of the two sisters, it's said that Luna and celestia were already alicorns before they got their cutie marks (aka before they raised the sun and moon for the first time) so there must have been another way for them to become alicorns, like genetics (they must have gotten it by their mother or someone turn them on a young age when they barely had any memory or they can be an experiment by star swirl, that could be why star swirl sees them as their daughters, the experiment was made so that the tribes could have an order, a leader that they would respect)  but that's just a theory a game theory

I believe that The Journal of the Two Sisters is in this weird limbo of being canon and not canon. It can influence what is canonical, but isn't strictly canon. I'm a bit fuzzy on the subject myself, but it has something to do with Faust leaving the show, I think...


i think allicorns are also kinda linked to destiny : when Cozy lost her magic she turned back to a pegasi but when Twilight lost her magic she is still an allicorn , we see that when Twilight turn into an allicorn the magic comes from herself , it might be pointed that she was destinied to be an allicorn and rule Esquestria unlike Cozy . I mean magic do seems to have a mind of its own so yeah.


Something I think, is that maybe the magic of an alicorn can change you to look like one! maybe a true alicorn is when you earn your wings/horn!


If you're an alicorn, you can fly AND use magic, like no other pony can.


I think this theory is great! But maybe it could be linked to something to trigger the transformation?


As a thought:

Could Cadence have become an alicorn in a similar way to the crystalling and the two sisters idea in this video?

Cadence brings and spreads love with her magic. Maybe her fixing a powerful, cross unicorn, pegasus or earth pony mixed relationship, those three tribes celebrated her love and power, crowning her a caring leader, who represents the tribes for their now love and gratitude towards one another.

The three tribes now feel free to date  someone else from another tribe. Maybe something happened that discriminated them for their unheard of love. When cadence makes is clear that this kind of love was alright, maybe she represented the future for the tribes, which explains her now being an alicorn!

Its alittle all over the place but this is my idea ^^;


So, Cadence was a Pegasus. But as we see in twilight's flashback when they were foals, Cadence (despite appearing taller since she is an alicorn) cast a love spell on a couple. However, she wasnt an unicorn. How did she master love magic so auickly? Was she actually born an alicorn and disguised?


What if you absorb only unicorn magic and pegasus magic, would you just become a weaker alicorn?


The weird she-demons from Equestria Girls make a lot more sense now looking at the powered up versions of Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy - that’s just what happens when you absorb large amounts of magic I guess


commenting before I've watched the vid, so he may touch on this,
Boomerangs were not actually thrown at animals to kill them, they were to scare them out of cover (small animals mistake them for a bird of prey) flushing them out to be killed with a Woomera (throwing spear)
Boomerangs were used by a number of cultures not just native Australians, but the Aboriginals being isolated for so long were the last to be using them.
Melee boomerangs did exist and short range throwing but not returning ones were used as skirmishing weapons.

Let's see if shad talks bout this


“CG is proof that non unicorns can become alicorns”

points to Princess Cadence

Cadence was born a Pegasus. ;)

“CG is proof that non unicorns can become alicorns”

-points to Princess Cadence-

Cadence was born a Pegasus. ;)

Even Twilight was a filly herself, she struggles magic and even when grew up.

I think Cadence started off being an unicorn. If she is a pegasus and turned early than in Twilight flashback back in Canterlot weddings, she used her horn magic very natural and like she was born to do magic. When Twilight first become an alicorn she doesn't really know how to fly naturally yet and she needs her friends help (esp Rainbow amd Fluttershy). Even if Celestia helps Cadance with her magic its still shouldn't be executed perfectly and naturally.

@L Creates she was actually an Alicorn she just became an alicorn early

“Non unicorns can become alicorns?” But Twilight used to be an unicorn and now she’s an alicorn

It was never confirmed in the show, Cadence was said to be a Pegasus in a book so it wasn’t 100% cannon to the show. Cozy Glow was the solid evidence

@Serena Put - to the begining and the end of the word. For example;
I am dumb

@Serena Put - to the begining and the end of the word. For example;
-I am dumb-

How did you cancel the words 'points to Princess Cadence' in your comment?

@leighia Okay? And?? That doesn't make any of it canon. I literally just said that the BOOKS AREN'T CANON so unless we see it in an EPISODE, it's not fact and shouldn't be stated as such. I never said it was a flat out wrong theory, just that you shouldn't go around saying that it's 100% correct

@Dew Donuts  Yes, but notice how Cadance is different from Luna, Celestia and Twilight. Cadance is the ONLY ALICORN besides Flurry Heart with faded wings. Perhaps her natural state as a pegasus changed her wings, which makes her stand out. If Luna, Tia and Twilight started off as unicorns (which Twilight did, but it's mainly possible for the two sisters), that would explain why their wings aren't faded - they have less pegasus magic.

Which would also makes sense for Flurry Heart.

Notice how Flurry Heart started flying much more than her overall magical talent. Maybe she has more pegasus magic than unicorn or earth pony magic.

@Roxy Raccoon Yeah but the books aren't canon. So if it wasn't in the show then we don't know for sure

Yeah, in the book where she passes the Crystal Heart Spell on to Twilight, she tells she was born a Pegasus taken in by earth ponies. Celestia gave her her horn after she used the love in her to cure Prismia's jealousy for the love she was spreading around.

Have a link to the Crystal Heart Spell Song: https://youtu.be/geWnnBKs5q4

@• Pretzel • She had wings means she was a Pegasus

@• Pretzel • she earned their trust years ago

Stellairria have a point, thats true Princess Cadence born as pegasus. You have good brain😘😘

In the episode where crysilis turns into cadence we see that when twilight was little, cadence was a unicorn

@Mariajose Pulido I'm still not sure. Because, when she foal sit Twilight, he was pretty young, like, younger than the normal Twilight. Chould a regular pegasi at that age redeem a villan? But maybe, so i still think we can't know for sure.

@Mariajose Pulido But she also had s horn, plus Twilight called her a Princess. So i still think we can't know if Cadance born a pegasi or a unicorn. But i don't know if the books are in canon eigther, so its just a theory for now.

The show never told us who Cadace came to be. So we can't know if Cadance born a pegasi. So CG is the first confirmed proof that non unicorns can become Alicorns.


i think alicorns just happens to have more magic, why? because when Trixie stole the alicorn amulet she doesn’t possess any wings, her magic just grew stronger. starlight and starswirl (my apologies for my spellings and grammar) also happens to have equal magic as alicorns. starlight managed to make earth ponies & unicorns, or rather, non-pegasus walk on clouds. and so that proves my next point, starlight managed to make herself just like pegasus (with a horn lol) because she’s able to use a spell that could make her fly and walk on clouds like one. i’m pretty sure she could grow a pair of wings if she wanted to, no doubt.


Great theory but if I remember correctly the journal of two sisters book that ties into the alicorn siblings pasts mentions that they were born alicorns and that they came from a tribe of sorts filled with them? I could be mixing up headcanons fed to me around the time I got the book and fact here but I'm almost positive they were born alicorns rather than made alicorns.


Sawtooth Waves: Cozy Glow proffed theat non unicorns can also become an alicorn<br>Also Sawtooth Waves: Welp, i guess i'll take this apportunity and be an alicorn! I don't want to waist it!

Sawtooth Waves: Cozy Glow proffed theat non unicorns can also become an alicorn
Also Sawtooth Waves: Welp, i guess i'll take this apportunity and be an alicorn! I don't want to waist it!


Alicorns, the longer they are one the more likely they are to keep the alicorn form because your body stars going through changes, so they aren’t reversible. Twilight got taller and her horn became longer when she became an alicorn. I vote that the wavy hair comes to an alicorn when they are old enough. It just depends on their age. Also Cadence (definitely spelled wrong) was already getting closer to the body shape of Celestial, and Luna is younger then Celestial so she looks a little different and slightly shorter then her older sister.


0:33 Actually, it’s canon that Cadence was born a pegasus

Yea but the book wasn't canon, I wish we got an explanation since she's my fav character :(

Autumn Rose Well, we don’t really know, but it’s our best guess <3

Dovey wait, the comics and books aren’t cannon?

Rosemary- <br>If you really think this was never stated, check some old episodes with Cadence.

Rosemary-
If you really think this was never stated, check some old episodes with Cadence.

@Warriors Claws <br>Actually, it was confirmed that the book isn't canon with the show. Therefore we don't know how cadence became an alicorn if we are looking from the show's canon.

@Warriors Claws
Actually, it was confirmed that the book isn't canon with the show. Therefore we don't know how cadence became an alicorn if we are looking from the show's canon.

Everyone in this reply section makes me laugh. If it's canon confirmed, it is canon. The franchise means NOTHING.

Well considering the show has ended I think thats all we're going to get :/

But the comics aren’t canon, for it to be canon for Sawtooth, it has to appear in the show <3

Yeah, isn't the story about Cadance called The Crystal Heart's spell? Or am I thinking of something else?

Here’s my thought <br>Maybe star swirl did make Celestia and Luna alicorns and put some kind of pocket dimension to scene a pony with alicorn worthiness when they achieve a ruler worthy deed. Then infuse them with magic from all three tribes and flurry heart had a stronger connect to this because her mother was an alicorn long before she was pregnant with her. So maybe the dimension scened alicorn worthiness within her without her needing prove it. This is why cozy glow because she was infused with magic from all three tribes.

Here’s my thought
Maybe star swirl did make Celestia and Luna alicorns and put some kind of pocket dimension to scene a pony with alicorn worthiness when they achieve a ruler worthy deed. Then infuse them with magic from all three tribes and flurry heart had a stronger connect to this because her mother was an alicorn long before she was pregnant with her. So maybe the dimension scened alicorn worthiness within her without her needing prove it. This is why cozy glow because she was infused with magic from all three tribes.


Maybe there's more than 1 way to become an alicorn? That princess-worthy deed Rarity presumed was needed, and what you said in this video- absorbing magic from all 3 tribes? Maybe there's also some other way to become one?


I'd take a guess that Alicorns being born isn't the norm. An Alicorn can reproduce, but those genes/magic are usually recessive and they'll simply give birth to one of the three base types. That would make Flurryheart a one in a million chance. Residual side-effects from when Shining Armor was corrupted by Sombra's magic might have had something to do with it too though.


I just imagine the creators of mlp spending years trying to say- 'alicorns aren't special!!!'
ya know, with lines like- 'the birth of an alicorn is something equestria's never seen' or 'you've become an alicorn, I didn't know that was possible'
and characters like, nightmare moon and flurryheart!


I don't know if this has been remedied in later videos, but you said each current alicorn represented a relationship, Celestia and Luna siblinghood, Cadence romance, Twilight friendship, and Flurry Heart love for parents. What if Cozy Glow represents the relationship of enemies? If that were the case, it could be that's why when her magic was drained or something she didn't stay an alicorn. Idk this just ocurred as a possibility to me.


Cadence likely had her own kind of crystaling. It was said that she brought love to ponies so maybe she brought love to enough ponies that she became an alicorn through their thanks and love? But then there’s her cutie mark and sort of how it’s the crystal heart and stuff… she’s also already shown as an alicorn when being twilight’s foal sitter. Perhaps she was born with the crystal Heart’s magic? And that magic was passed to flurryheart since she was born in the crystal pony kingdom? She’s said to be related to the original queen of the crystal empire in the wiki (though I’m not sure how trustworthy the wiki is right now) so her destiny being tied to the crystal heart may have to do with why she became an alicorn. Maybe she’s linked to the crystal heart in that way so she takes on the crystal heart’s magic.


I think the worthiness and important looking of the alicorns is more cultural than biological, is not that you're an alicorn, is how you became an alicorn, having the title of princess/queen/ruler (male applies too i gues) is what gives you the respect of everyone, yes, you have way more magic than the other ponies, but everyone can get that if they do what is need to be an alicorn, what matters is the title and the way you got those wings/horn. At least that's my point of view. Also considerating that there only have been shown 5 in-series royal alicorns.


With This Theory A Tribe full of alicorns is entirely possible all it would need is a few people to get magic of all three kinds and then with flurry heart as an example Nature can keep it going


You're missing something here, after Cozy is defeated and the magic is sucked out shes back to a normal unicorn but for The other four alicorn's after getting magic sucked out they remained as an alicorn which could mean that you need to have magic from all three tribes AND be a ruler or symbol of something like luna and celestia are the symbol of light and darkness, cadence and twilight being love and friendship i hope u see this


“Finally solving Alicorns”

I have heard it all now...

Gxlaxy Cat they could’ve watched it on 2x speed or just skipped around the video

Bruh- 4 more minutes until you see the whole vid-


Cozy of course gained magic from Grogar's bell and that's how she became an alicorn daa.


Hasbro: We need baby alicorn toys!

From that day, the collective cries of theorists can be heard


It could also be that Alicorns were the original pony species, and that as they spread across the planet they split evolving into stronger/specialized variant tribes. Starting with a split between Unicorns and Pegasi. Then the Umicorns split to physically weaker Unicorns and Earth Ponies. So it could be a combination of the different types of magic, and how much Alicorn DNA is still in your genetics.


I like to think that it's not about becoming but being an alicorn, that even though anyone can become one with the right magic, not anyone can be an alicorn and hold all of its power and responsibilities for good. Well, that's my theory regarding this video, but I prefer to believe that not anypony can become an alicorn, even with the right magic. It's something that comes within them, like Twilight's transformation.

I like to think that it's not about becoming but being an alicorn, that even though anyone can *become* one with the right magic, not anyone can *be* an alicorn and hold all of its power and responsibilities for good. Well, that's my theory regarding this video, but I prefer to believe that not anypony can become an alicorn, even with the right magic. It's something that comes within them, like Twilight's transformation.


This theory is interesting, but it doesn't work considering the journal of the two sisters which is canon and a great read. In it, Celestia and Luna are alicorns long before having cutie marks. It's because they're alicorns that they're chosen to be the princesses of Equestria and unite the ponies.


''cozy glow is proof that non unicorns can become alicorns''

Cadence was a pegasus

But anyway
the reason alicorns exist because they have a lot of magic than average, not necessarily magic from 3 tribes
Twilight was pumped with magic + her magical skill = becoming an alicorn

Flurry heart is a powerful toddler with tons of magic inside of her, hence she's an alicorn

Cozy was pumped with magic through the bell, hence becoming an alicorn

The reason celestia and luna don't revert back to their previous unicorn stage is because the transformation on them is permanent, at least that's my theory
Cozy didn't become an alicorn permanently after getting the power so there is still things to theorise about in this


Getting long spider legs and getting a bigger horn and getting wavy hair does not make u a better alicorn


in this case Flurry could have been an alicorn from the joy the cristal ponies had from learning Cadence was pregnant


I have a question that i hope someone will answer when grogar's magic from the bell was sucked out of alicorn cosy glow she turned back into a pegasus but when twilight's magic was sucked out by tirek she didn't turn into a unicorn so how does that work?


Remember when mlp was just a nice show to enjoy without any worry about how this can make sense


Has anyone else noticed that alicorns have fancier wing feather patterns? "Oh look at my wings in an alicorn"


Wouldn't that mean Chrysalis became, or already was, a sort of alicorn? Shouldn't Tirek have gotten wings if not flight when he received the Bell's magic too? Shouldn't Tirek have been an alicorn after draining magic from the different tribes in Season 4, well before draining Discord? {which was already problematic juxtaposed to the S9 finale, but that's a whole other can of worms!}


Guy i just figured out something,when u look at twilight,cadence,celestia and luna's wing they have a different pattern on them and the the pegesi who are naturally born have different....but flurry is a naturally bor alicorn but has the pattern on her wings just like the princesses...


I think Flurry Heart inherits the “being alicorn at birth” thing. In “the royal wedding” Twilight’s flashback shows Cadence as an alicorn as a filly

@Frazzledazzle <b>how was I supposed to know</b>

@Frazzledazzle *how was I supposed to know*

She wasn't a filly, she was a young adult. Cadence was born as a pegasus.


hear me out peeps, I am a little late to the show but  I have an Idea. Like you theorized with each princess representing a bond that holds society, I think that is still true. older siblinghood, younger siblinghood, friendship, love, and parental love all have their own tier of magic. It is proven the magic of love an friendship are two of the most powerful weapons in equestria. maybe siblinghood and parental love are the same. maybe luna and celestia became alicorns after realizing the teamwork (raising the sun and moon) of sister hood. flurry was born one because of her instincts. maybe those types of magic are on a tier stronger than any magic in the whole mlp universe. maybe it takes that magic to be an alicorn. grogar's bell held the magic of a time before those were realized. it held captive the magic of those relationships. maybe it takes that much magic to become an alicorn. your starswirled invented alicorns still works. flurry just was transformed in the womb. coxy glow didn't have one because she used stolen magic. starswirled made the alicorns because of the magic they had through understanding, and his spell lasted atfer limbo. he did not understand how luna and celestia had the power. he just knew he did. his spell detected the power of cozy and made her one too. celestia wasn;t there to greet her because she didn't know what was happening somehow. that is my theory.

twilight didn't invent the magic of friendship. she understood it. of course they all have their duties, celestia and luna raise the sun and moon, twilight rules equestria and used to solve friendship problems. cadence and maybe oneday flurry rule the crystal empire. it makes sense. twilight was first to understand friendship because she knew it was like with no friends. cadence is love because of her natural love for everyone. celestia is older sibling because of her natural leadership and motherly instinct. luna is younger because of her willingness to follow (eventually). flurry is child because of her naturally greater love for her parents (courtesy of the crystal heart)


has anyone thought of starlight becoming an alicorn since if you look back at season 7 discord claims

"you should have a plan for her the same way celestia sent you on a path that turned you into a princes "

twilight "yep"
discord"im sure she can not wait to hear about it"
then when discord brings starlight and discord said they where both interested about her plan twilight could have said somthing else


"Cozy Glow is proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns." That was already proven by Cadence. But that's not actually important to your point, so let's put that aside.

"Anypony can become an alicorn if you just pump them full of magic. ... You just need the magic no matter how you get it." That's demonstrably false. When Celestia, Luna, and Cadence give their magic to Twilight in an attempt to fool Tirek, while they do show outward signs, they don't cease to be alicorns. And it can't be argued that they simply held on to enough magic not to lose their forms, as Tierk attempts to eat their magic and comes up with nothing at all. Whereas Cozy gained the physical appearance of an alicorn upon taking the magic from Grogar's bell and loses the form immediately upon returning the magic.

The rest of your argument rests on conjecture; how Twilight, Cozy, and Flurry could have gotten the magic of three tribes from sources outside side themselves and how Celestia and Luna could have done the same and been crowned rulers of Equestria. There's nothing solid to back this up from the show itself, just the fact that it's possible.

Cozy reverting form upon losing her magic proves that there's something more going on with her case, and it doesn't disrupt any theory about alicorns you care to point to. Well, except the theory that alicorns are gods, but I'm pretty sure that idea is long dead.

"Cozy Glow is proof that non-unicorns can become alicorns." That was already proven by Cadence. But that's not actually important to your point, so let's put that aside.

"Anypony can become an alicorn if you just pump them full of magic. ... You just need the magic no matter how you get it." That's demonstrably false. When Celestia, Luna, and Cadence give their magic to Twilight in an attempt to fool Tirek, while they do show outward signs, they don't cease to be alicorns. And it can't be argued that they simply held on to enough magic not to lose their forms, as Tierk attempts to eat their magic and comes up with nothing at all. Whereas Cozy gained the physical appearance of an alicorn upon taking the magic from Grogar's bell and loses the form immediately upon returning the magic.

The rest of your argument rests on conjecture; how Twilight, Cozy, and Flurry *could have* gotten the magic of three tribes from sources outside side themselves and how Celestia and Luna *could have* done the same and been crowned rulers of Equestria. There's nothing solid to back this up from the show itself, just the fact that it's possible.

Cozy reverting form upon losing her magic proves that there's something more going on with her case, and it doesn't disrupt any theory about alicorns you care to point to. Well, except the theory that alicorns are gods, but I'm pretty sure that idea is long dead.

@Novapanthera Alright. So what does this prove? These creatures aren't alicorns so you'll need to draw a connection somehow.

@Moon Blaze Can be drained just not by Tirek. Sorry, should've specified.

@Novapanthera  @AriBean   @AriBean  The animals in Tartarus are an odd choice of example. They did show a physical change of shape when they lost their magic, which makes it seem they are something unrelated. I'm not sure what we're supposed to glean from that. They certainly dont support the idea that "there's magic in what they are that can't be drained."

They didn't stop being alicorns because there's magic in what they are that can't be drained, like we see with the animals in Tartarus. As for why Cozy Glow did, I'm not sure. Maybe the bell works differently. Maybe Discord's involvement changed something.

@Chocolate Box I see nothing hypocritical about it, considering how in both the original post I presented events in the show as evidence. And, while you were posting this one I was typing up quite a long post responding to someone else that was also using events from the show (supplimented with secondary canon) to back up my position. As far as I can tell, I've been nothing but consistent.

@rehelm3 Well, given the answer you gave, yeah of course it could be explained by poor or inconsistent writing. But also, anything in any story can be explained by that. So really it depends on why you're trying to explain it. If you're trying to answer "What did the writers intend?" then your answer is the answer. Or, rather it could be. I rather suspect it is, but you'd have to actually prove that. Obviously. However if you want to explore the world of the show, then meta answers like that aren't terribly helpful.

So, if you're trying to dig deeper into the world, then of course there's an answer. Just as there's an answer to any phenomena we observe in the real world. The question isn't if there's an answer but if we have enough information to uncover it. And I believe that; yes there is enough. At least, enough to get a rough picture. Though some outliers do raise questions.

We have two examples of ponies becoming alicorns; Twilight and Cadence. Now, the latter's case comes from secondary canon, so how legitimate it is as evidence is a fair question to ask. To me, secondary canon can be used if it's corroborated by something in the primary canon. And the story of how Cadence became an alicorn is consistent with how Twilight did. Thus, I'm using it here.

Without going over both stories, here's what's consistent between them; both became alicorns after 1) using magic that's 2) in line with their special talents and 3) helped someone else out of a serious situation. Magic that exemplifies what makes the individual special in performed in service to others. Also pretty consistent with the message of the show, so that's a nice benefit.

The outlier here is obviously Flurry Heart. However, we have literally no information about her other than she was born an alicorn. What caused this outlier? We'll never know for sure, now that the show has ended. However, this is the theory most consistent with what's presented in the show. We can acknowledge it's flaws while still using it as the best answer we have. And as far as I'm aware, nothing else conflicts with it.

Cozy Glow, just to include the original topic, clearly isn't really an alicorn by the evidence I presented before. She's clearly something different since the behavior is different. It might simply be that we labeled her an alicorn because she had the physical appearance of one, but something underlying was missing. Which, in light of my theory, makes a lot of sense. She stole magic that wasn't hers in service to her own power. Appearently this was enough to transform her, but she also clearly was something other than an alicorn.

Wow, I really enjoyed your thought process.

Would you postulate that there IS an answer to the Alicorn question?

To me it seems like all this is explained by inconsistencies in the world building of a children’s show. Thoughts?

@Chocolate Box If you assert without evidence then we dont have much to talk about. That's just what you believe and what am I going to say to that? "No you don't."

Odd that you included Discord, though. He's not an alicorn so he's not exactly relevant to the discussion.


To be honest, I completely disagree with the idea of absorbing magic from all three tribes. Because we've seen other ponies (like Star Swirl) be loved like Celestia and Luna, and yet they didn't transform into alicorns.


imagine an unknow place where the habitants are alicorns , it would change everything


Cadance did something just like Twillight taking her to Celestias realm where she became an alicorn <br>Like the changelings the pony she was helping wanted love.

Cadance did something just like Twillight taking her to Celestias realm where she became an alicorn
Like the changelings the pony she was helping wanted love.


You should do a video of why the sisters had their cutie marks before they knew they would raise the sun and moon and also why the sisters are so tall and have moving hair! 😀


Here's a theory for for you to think about:
So, Sci-Twi in Equestria Girls, is an Alicorn, when she Ponys up, but her Pony form is an unicorn.
How?
Thanks for noticing

I’m guessing because in h the r human world she uses Alicorn twilights magic, but when she goes to pony world she isn’t using the magic

Their ways are not the same, Twilight became an alicorn because of Celestia right? Well Human scifi twilight does not go to Canterlot High School where Celestia is the principal, Celestia barely knows Sci-fi twilight. Twilight didnt have the human mane six as her friends, but Pony twilight with her mane six friends by her side, she became an alicorn. The human world of mlp doesnt have Princess, prince, queen or king and it's era is modern.<br>The human world and pony world does not have the same story.

Their ways are not the same, Twilight became an alicorn because of Celestia right? Well Human scifi twilight does not go to Canterlot High School where Celestia is the principal, Celestia barely knows Sci-fi twilight. Twilight didnt have the human mane six as her friends, but Pony twilight with her mane six friends by her side, she became an alicorn. The human world of mlp doesnt have Princess, prince, queen or king and it's era is modern.
The human world and pony world does not have the same story.

Maybe because she didn't have her "geode" and that gave her the magic to turn into an alicorn
https://aminoapps.com/c/equestria/page/blog/alicorns-origin/x5wn_R3i2u67DL5q4W4xw4aqdjz1l5ojE4 (what do you thin of this theory?

We've seen even small amounts of equestrian magic have a much bigger impact in the human world than it would have in Equestria. With just one element sunset was able to grow wings, albeit bat wings, in the human world, while pony twilight never showed such a transformation with the elements untill she got power from all 6 of them at once. With the tiny amount of pony magic the eqg squad has, which they got directly from pony twilight, human twilight not only became a "human alicorn" but was effortlessly creating direct portals between Equestria and the human world which not even pony twilight can do. Maybe it's just simply that pony magic is more potent in the human world.

@Lily-Rose Cheung
Both are smart
Both freak out easily
So I don't know what ur saying

Well she only get's her wings when she powers up with friendship with her friends. So she isn't a true alicorn and only gets it when she powers up with her friends. Which honestly I'm fine with since I don't think she earned them quite yet.

Pony Twilight was originally born as a unicorn, so if Sci-Twi goes thought the portal, she's gonna become the kind of pony that her pony counterpart was born as. When she ponies up, she has wings because she takes power from her pony counterpart, who is currently an alicorn.

@Zebra Roll maybe she is a pegases in human world

My theory is that there's nothing inherently special about the EqG Mane Six--by that I mean they aren't innately tied to the Elements of Harmony like the OG Mane Six are. When they "pony up", they're actually channeling magic from their Equestrian counterparts, hence why SciTwi has OG Twilight's wings. (Similar to what @Ying Zhu said.)

my theory is that she represents the pony Twilight when she ponies up, which is why she has those wings

My theory is they just had someone who wasn't clued in working on Sci-Twi's pony form for that special.

Someone so out of touch, they just used unicorn Twilight's old model and everyone was so focused on getting the special out on time they didn't notice til it was too late

@Lily-Rose Cheung An editing mistake that happens every time? Mistakes happen in the show all the time but I doubt everyone failed to noticed the big wings showing up multiple times lol

@Lily-Rose Cheung She doesn't have wings in equestria
She has wings when she pony's-up (Ponying-up is how the equestria girls get ears and wings when they play music) except only the pegasi and Equestria Twilight have wings...
But sci-twi, EQG twilight, has wings when she pony's-up, despite not having wings when she goes through the portal to Equestria

Do you understand now?

@Lily-Rose Cheung What they are asking is for a theory on why when EG Twilight ponys up, she has wings but isn't an alicorn in the pony world. Because that doesn't make sense. She shouldn't have wings at all

@Katherine Reshetnikov They are saying that when EQ twilight ponys up, she has the wings, giving the indication that she is also an alicorn in pony form. But as seen in that one special, she isnt. So that is kind of weird.

They’re not the same pony. That’s why Twilight from Equestrian Girls is a unicorn.


I think the way Celestia and Luna got their wavy mane is because they were showered with more love


It occurs to me, Cadence is the only Alicorn mother. Did Celestia or Luna ever try to become parents? Perhaps an Alicorn baby is the only result of having an Alicorn parent. So it was shear luck we didn't end up with a "Prince" Flurry instead.


If I'm being honest here:

Keeping in mind that MLP is a kid's show, originally. And while Hasbro has been recognizing they're older audience for awhile now, children still watch the show so there probably wasn't alot of theory put into the idea.

A good example of this is pretty simple, the begining, the first season of the show.
Kids like unicorns and ponies and pegasi, so it makes sense for them to create these, very glowy and flowy haired alicorn creatures to entertain kids watching, and for plot. When Twilight became a alicorn, it was a fan theory/AU that many people supported. Hasbro did make a whole episode dedicated to bronies, so it makes sense that they would make a fan theory canon.
The reason Twilight got wings is becuase she solved a issue that she made on accident, but proved herself worthy, and according to Celestia she's always been worthy. So it was inside her all along, she was a relitivly powerful and smart unicorn before hand anyways.

Cadence was a pegasus then got her horn after, probably also Celestia's doing like with Twilight. And jkeep in mind that in the future, Twilight has the same flowy hair as Celestia, and her hair does the same thing when all the princesses give her their magic, to which they don't lose their wings or horns and stay the same. Cadence and Flurry Heart are the only ones without flowy hair. However I think that is a age thing. Becuase Twilight is younger than the three and so is Flurry. Cadence looks to be a tad younger than Luna at the least, and when Luna was younger she didn't have flowy hair either.  So I think that genetics and overall age plays a role here.

Celestia and Luna are centeries old and originally they were brought in to be plot, and some intersting looking charecters for the kiddos. It can be assumed that they were both born that way, they existed before Equestria. Lauren Faust said herslef that they don't have parents that outrank them, and that originally they were going to have a brother named Cosmos but he was reworked into tempest, so based on that, he cold have been an alicorn too or something of the like.

Flurry Heart just has Alicorn genetics. Remember this is still a show meant for children, and it makes sense to them to see a baby Alicorn, born from another Alicorn. Her being an alicorn was also used for plot when she was first introduced, so that checks out.

Cozy Glow is just a evil filly who used magic to  turn herself into an Alicorn. She didn't do anything to prove herself worthy or show that she had alicorn potential, so that's probably why it didn't last long and she reverted to her original form.

Also, let's keep in mind that changlings are like alicorns in a way. Queen Chrysalis has the alicorn look, but as a changling. And she is able to fly and use her horn. That doesn't necisarily mean she was one though.

In conclusion, I don't think that alicorns are that special unless made to be for plot and entertainment. Once again it is a kid's show, and while it is fun to make up theories and analize everything, there isns't a long drawn out thought put into the idea.


His guess is pretty on point to what is canonical he obviously didn’t know this but there’s a prequel book explaining how celestia and Luna got their wings and yeah it is actually because those unicorns that were growing tired and losing their magic from having to raise the sun couldn’t carry on any longer so they stepped up to do it and by doing so became alicorns


This theory reminds me of Matpat's Evolution Theory with Epigenetics.

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@SwordTune I actually reccomended his Pokemon evolution theory. For somebody who didn't pay to 7th grade biology, his explanations were simple and easy to follow.

I wager Matpat's understanding of epigenetics reaches the level of high school biology.


I think they have to be royalty. As they represent everyone, wings of pegasi, horn of a unicorn and the strength of an earth pony. The alicorns we know of are all royalty. I know Cozy Glow, but she was an artificial alicorn. She didn't earn it, she stole it. You need to earn it to be alicorns. You could argue Cadence, Celestia, Luna and Twilight are all artificial, but again, they <b>earned</b> it. Cozy didn't. So she wasn't an alicorn, just a pony with wings and a horn. I know you could also argue Flurry Heart, but again, I think she was never an alicorn until the crystaling. She only looked like one. When she brought hope back to the kingdom, she became a true alicorn.

I think they have to be royalty. As they represent everyone, wings of pegasi, horn of a unicorn and the strength of an earth pony. The alicorns we know of are all royalty. I know Cozy Glow, but she was an artificial alicorn. She didn't earn it, she stole it. You need to earn it to be alicorns. You could argue Cadence, Celestia, Luna and Twilight are all artificial, but again, they *earned* it. Cozy didn't. So she wasn't an alicorn, just a pony with wings and a horn. I know you could also argue Flurry Heart, but again, I think she was never an alicorn until the crystaling. She only looked like one. When she brought hope back to the kingdom, she became a true alicorn.


You are absolutely right.<br>They do get it from the 3 tribes.

You are absolutely right.
They do get it from the 3 tribes.


I think they were just trying to make her intimidating. She's strongest in manipulation, not magic or physical strength. But everyone knows shes evil so it would be useless to make her a master manipulator. So they made her an alicorn, then she'd be just as scary as Chrysalis and T-rek. She even loses her horns once the magic is drained. I dont think she was truly an alicorn at all, it just gave her power so she could actually fight.


It's a good thing season 9 doesn't exist then /s

But on a serious note, I interpreted as cozy being a false alicorn, maybe she used the bell to make her look like and alicorn, or absorbing the magic like that makes a pony a faux alicorn, and can't naturally create the magic to be an alicorn, and she would go back to normal after after some amount of time.


I think it is as simple as getting magic from all three tribes, but how easy is it to do that. Well lets  look at twilight  she needed magic  from the friends she had to form which seems easy but what kind of friend wants  to willing give you magic that they could  have, Celestia and Luna had to raise the sun and moon for all three tribes to praise them, and clozy glow had to use  magic from a  heavily guarded artifact


You were just soo calm solving how the two sisters became an alicorn then you woke me up after explaining it lol can anyone relate?


I'm wondering if Queen Chrysalis is actually an Alicorn, and if she is, how she came to be one?


i just realized that the new mlp movie proved this is true! the main character became an alicorn right after bringing all the tribes together by bringing together objects with unicorn, pegasi and earth pony magic.


You know the saying "friendship is magic" well since friendship is magic all most all the ponies should be alicorns because you need  the magic from each tribe and most of the ponies should be freinds at least one preson from each tribe so they would gain friendship magic even if not a way we've seen before like stealing it or becoming a ruler, twilight is the only alicorn who actually has  friendship magic that we really know of (but then again I don't really watch the show)


Well in the episode it said in the book that there had to be magic in the bell to give them magic so there was already alicorn magic in there and that’s how she became an alicorn


Theory: if you mix 1 earth pony, 1 unicorn and 1 pegasi’s sperm you make an alicorn?


For cadance, I think she was born from 1 unicorn, and 1 Pegasus, I also think Flurry Heart has extra magic because both her parents had horns


We went from "CURSE YOU FLURRY HEART!" to "CURSE YOU COZY THEE ALICORN"

Also when he said "around 1111 years ago" I thought 'AWWW YEAAA WE GETTING OURSELVES A STORY-TIME!!!'


I mean, this makes sense. It was a good long time that humans believed that whoever was king (or queen, I'm not picky) was ordained to rule by God. It was only many thousands of years later that we realized that whoever was king (or queen, it's all the same, really) was ordained to rule by having the greatest capability to visit violence on others. Or, phrased another way: "The right to rule flows from the barrel of a gun."


I seen other video where star swirl is the one that kinda made them alacorns. STORY TIME!! A long time ago, When star swirl was still young. He raised the sun and the moon. And  defended the ponies. But, As star swirl got older, He realized someone needed to take his place. So he choose celestea to be the princess of the sun. And Luna was not even born when celestea became princess. So, Celestea studied for days and years. Then the princess of the moon came. " Luna. "  So thats the end of the story. - Also, Did you know star swirl is the elements of harmony??- (I'm 13 years old.)


I have a question, it's pretty minor tho, it's how did they get their flowy hair and cadence never did, along with another question where how did queen crysilace (grammar) she turned into dark colors and looked like cheese, or was she always lie that until thorax changed it?


Wait wait wait I came back after realizing something but just to confirm, the bell took princess celestia’s and princess lunas magic right? So maybe a pure heart is the certain wall to GAIN that magic. Of course cozyglow gaining this magic in grogars bell were belonged to other ponies, meaning that there was no wall. Flurryheart being a baby doesn’t actually matter if magic can travel through time, just like cutie marks when you find your passion, a cutie mark is sorta a sign that magic travels through time (you said this too in one of your videos- not that cutie mark thing but about magic traveling through time-)  cause cutie marks know what your passion/destiny is and will be.


When he tries to solve Flurry:

"CURSE YOU FLURRY THE ALICORN!!!"

After solving Flurry and when Cozy becames a problem:

"CURSE YOU COZY THE ALICORN!!!"

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@꧂sweetheart_firimi But she becomes an alicorn in the season 9 but then unbecomes an alicorn. When i saw alicorn Cozy i was like "Cozy... Do you wanna explane that horn?" So yes, she did becoma an alicorn but then become a pegasi again


How Cadance becomes an Alicorn :  <br> i dont know if cadance is a unicorn or a pegusi but her cutie mark was a symbol of love.  she brings love to ponies so in the proses of doing that she must have touch some of the unicorn pegusi and earth ponys magic.

How Cadance becomes an Alicorn :
 i dont know if cadance is a unicorn or a pegusi but her cutie mark was a symbol of love.  she brings love to ponies so in the proses of doing that she must have touch some of the unicorn pegusi and earth ponys magic.


What I’m curious about is, How did cadence become an Alicorn? Or was she already born one? Cause In the wedding episode, we see Twilight flashbacking to when candence used to baby sit her and during that time she was a princess. So maybe before then she was granted alicorn magic or maybe born with it? What do you think?


Well .. we don’t know how Grogar got his belle. Maybe he earned it from a evil pony so the magic from the ponies in that belle become what he earned and MAYBE IT WAS STORED AS EVIL MAGIC ONCE THE MAGIC GOT IN THE BELLE. so cozy glow took the magic to have her wings.she never earned it.she took it from earned magic. Because if the belle was earned. The magic would be stored as earned.


How to be an alicorn: be a unicorn and use magic to fly.

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Remember when you said that the alicorns aged in height over thousands of years?
Well do you remember that episode when twilight goes into the past and Celestia was still the exact same height a thousand years ago?
You should make a video about that


I think your right and I think Cadence got the magic by giving love to Unicorns,Pegasi and earth pony's giving her the magic to become an Alicorn, it shows this in a cantorlot wedding if u wanna check it out. Am i right?


I actually came up with a question and hunted down this video just to ask. What about the Cake Twins? Pumpkin Cake is a unicorn and Pound Cake is a pegasus, so that means their genetics have both pegasus and unicorn magic, and obviously their parents have earth pony magic, so I want to add on to your theory about this, I don't think it's just about what kind, I also think it's quantity. I bet the magics all have to be in balance, you have to have equal amounts of all three in order to make an alicorn, if there isnt balance and it's just left up to genetics, then one has more of a chance than shining than the others. That actually explains Flurry Heart as well, because it has been stated before that Cadence was born a pegasus, and Shining Armor is a unicorn, having both of those genes on top of Cadence having Alicorn genes to give the gap in earth pony magic would most likely result in an alicorn foal


flurry heart I was never shocked with. but my reaction was more like "oh cool" but sense she's born alicorn there's no way she well lose horn and wings. unless there's other that uses magic like Discord that can do a thing like that. than she's all together save form countering something like that. and I think we know there well be more alicorns later in the future. they just didn't show it. like how the cakes say they had unicorn, earth and pegasus in there family tree. so that's a hint that there well be more alicorns because there well be more mix races married and have kids. I guessing that's leading on what happened before G5 or MAYBE G5 is the same timeline when Twilight and Starlight time traveled.


I hope reformed cozy glow and flurry heart become friends.🥺


This actually works with Cadence as well!<br>She was a Pegasus that was adopted by a village of Earth ponies who were at one point attacked by the enchantress Prismia, who I am going to theorize was a unicorn. When she used the amulet and Cadence reversed it and her loves was amplified instead, it says that Cadence turned Prismia to see good. I think all this together would have made the perfect moment for Cadence to become an Alicorn!

This actually works with Cadence as well!
She was a Pegasus that was adopted by a village of Earth ponies who were at one point attacked by the enchantress Prismia, who I am going to theorize was a unicorn. When she used the amulet and Cadence reversed it and her loves was amplified instead, it says that Cadence turned Prismia to see good. I think all this together would have made the perfect moment for Cadence to become an Alicorn!


due to Flurry heart being a natural-born alicorn and not been turned into like the others. I do think that it's because of her mother and father. because they were able to defeat the queen of the changing when even Celestia could not. I do think that those two have a lot of power. and because cadence was a pegasus before she was an alicorn it would make sense that with her gain more power. as she becomes an alicorn that magic would be passed onto flurry heart but then again this is all that I think. as flurry heart is the only baby in a royal family.


This is the best explanation ever<br>I thought exactly the same

This is the best explanation ever
I thought exactly the same


i  just wanna say, that um. Grogar might have "Absorbed" luna's magic when he "freed" nightmare moon in your other theory so maybe he connected his magic to his bell while he himself was in the stars! so cozy glow might have actually recieved nghtmare moon's magic which was as powerful as luna's . so maybe it isn't the magic of all three tribes, but the magic of an alicorn.  Some info to back that up : that may be why twilight and her friends were able to turn back into luna so easily, while celestia could only banish er to the moon because when nightmare moon was banished , grogar hadn't taken the magic yet, so to me it kinda adds up. More info to back up: the alicorn princesses were really scared when they thought tirek was going to take their magic and after transfering their magic to twilight, their cutie marks , the thing that literally makes them who they are, dissapeared. and if cozy glow absorbed that.....


I think that natural versus artificial Alicorns is totally wrong, because in the second episode of My Little Pony when Princess Luna came back she didn't have a flowy mane.


Him:"Finally Solving Alicorns"

Me:Can he really figure out what to have been trying to since childhood?

Am I the only one who got brain damage from tryna read what this person said<br>Help

Am I the only one who got brain damage from tryna read what this person said
Help

@ARYA GHAITADKE I watched his video though. <br>Have you read the Tale of the Two Sisters?

@ARYA GHAITADKE I watched his video though.
Have you read the Tale of the Two Sisters?


I’m very sorry Sawtooth, but.. doesn’t the play episode, say “Celestial, <br>Luna AND the wizards rose the sun and the moon”? If I remember that right. Lol, if it’s true I didn’t mean to bust this Celestial and Luna theory in a theory.

I’m very sorry Sawtooth, but.. doesn’t the play episode, say “Celestial,
Luna AND the wizards rose the sun and the moon”? If I remember that right. Lol, if it’s true I didn’t mean to bust this Celestial and Luna theory in a theory.


It seems good to me, I think you're right. Now excuse me for a moment, I'll become an alicorn


What if only good alicorns are the true alicorns? Like Cozy glow could be an alicorn but there's probably a limit to her magic. Twilight always said that harmony was the most powerful kind of magic, which is probably stronger than Cozy glow's alicorn magic. The 5 alicorns may have alicorn magic equal to Cozy glow's, but they have a magic which cozy glow does not, harmony. Cozy glow being so evil and the coldness in her heart probably prevented her from reaching full potential in magic. And across so many seasons friendship and harmony is a magic that cannot be stolen or taken away from.


Haven't you noticed that discord is like a being of chaos he's the embodiment of mischief and we did see him shape shift and because the Bell is discord's bell as well, maybe that's how Cozy Glow turned into a alicorn , she just merely shape shift with discord's bell


Therory: when a alicorn mother gives birth it’s a chance there child will be a alicorn but also what if cozy glows mom is a alicorn as well.. but cozy got it from the bell. What if cozy glows mom or they stole her moms magic and then her mother died.. flurry heart could’ve got the alicorn traits because her mom is a alicorn  and shining armor had ALICORN MAGIC like protecting the castle with a magical shield.  And if we did a gender bend shining armor could’ve been a alicorn if he was a girl. (Summing up I think it’s when an alicorn mother gives birth a high chance of them being a Pegasus unicorn earth pony or alicorn, Cozy’s parents and other relatives could’ve died because we see no proof of there existence either. So to conclude I think this comment solved genes and once again twilight had alicorn magic because when they were saving the crystal empire from sombar she used alicorn magic! Now how do we know well remember when twilight saw how nightmare moon was banished to the moon? The potion she drank was <b>Alicorn</b> Magic!! Also I noticed the fact that the main 6 + Sunset and starlight glimmer are like the roofs while twilight is the trunk of the tree. They can not also be an alicorn due to genes.)

Therory: when a alicorn mother gives birth it’s a chance there child will be a alicorn but also what if cozy glows mom is a alicorn as well.. but cozy got it from the bell. What if cozy glows mom or they stole her moms magic and then her mother died.. flurry heart could’ve got the alicorn traits because her mom is a alicorn  and shining armor had ALICORN MAGIC like protecting the castle with a magical shield.  And if we did a gender bend shining armor could’ve been a alicorn if he was a girl. (Summing up I think it’s when an alicorn mother gives birth a high chance of them being a Pegasus unicorn earth pony or alicorn, Cozy’s parents and other relatives could’ve died because we see no proof of there existence either. So to conclude I think this comment solved genes and once again twilight had alicorn magic because when they were saving the crystal empire from sombar she used alicorn magic! Now how do we know well remember when twilight saw how nightmare moon was banished to the moon? The potion she drank was *Alicorn* Magic!! Also I noticed the fact that the main 6 + Sunset and starlight glimmer are like the roofs while twilight is the trunk of the tree. They can not also be an alicorn due to genes.)

cxsmiicbrownie ! Thanks it’s a bit dark to-

Louise Bryant true true but. I changed it a little

suciati wardani there is in the season 9 there is a stain glass

If their was a fifth alicorn<br>Their would be a glass window thingy in the castle in canterlot

If their was a fifth alicorn
Their would be a glass window thingy in the castle in canterlot

Your theory used to bw:
"Whenever a alicorn mother gives birth its a chance their child will be"
Something like that

Creatress Corruption true! Because isn’t it combined by all three tribes earth pony, Pegasus and unicorn do they can be any of Those or all together

Or it can happen in their descendants. Like, let's say Twilight has kids, a unicorn and pegasus, and one day, years down the line, and alicorn is born from one of their lines because an ancestor was an alicorn.

It is definitely be a fun theory


The new generation episode where there is Twilight’s message
She was an alicorn but not the big one we see in the future
She was talking about this new villain so if she was doing this before she was big she would be more worried not so calm so this new villain must have come from later than that last episode on the mane 6
I think she did the message after the sacrifice since she is not as big
But if she was still an alicorn how is she not alive in the new generation


I still think that the true alicorns represent different kinds of love.


2:50 or Celestia and Luna just made it super duper special to make them seem even more powerful and special.


Well, I always believed that an alicorn being born an alicorn is not possible (the case with flurry is different), and a true alicorn is formed originally being a pegasus, unicorn, or earth pony, and to me, a pony turns into an alicorn when they achieve performing an action that helps them understand a way to connect their cutie mark and their destiny on a higher level, and for further understanding here is how it works:

1. Twilight:  Her friends swap their cutie marks by a spell - she used their great friendship bond to save them , as they say friendship is magic so she used MAGIC (her cutie mark) to save her friends (which just further proves that she is to be THE PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP) - so the connection of twilight's cutie mark and her destiny, on a higher level than most ponies, turns her into an alicorn but just after celestia explains so twilight doesn't freak out sooooooo much.

2. Celestia and Luna (before reading this one do know that I am not so sure of this story): Seeing the ponies of their town suffer cause the pony wizards can't rise the sun and moon every day and night, The princesses, who are only unicorn fillies at the time, realise by their CUTIE MARKS (which showed they had something to do with the sun and moon) that they are DESTINED to take in the raise and set duty, and so when they do their duty for the first time, the action connecting the meaning of their cutie marks and the fact that they are DESTINED to rule equestria, day and night, turned them to alicorns.

3. Cadence (some say she was a unicorn and some say pegasus, but I go with PEGASI): (First of all things she is NOT the princess of LOVE and those love spells she did WEREN'T love spells but DISTRACTION spells which is something she thinks is necessary to prosprate a full of love and light kingdom. To correct Princess Mi Amore Cadenza (Cadence) is the princess of spreading love around.) When cadence was really young she say how careless and rude ponies were becoming so she starting to distract ponies from fighting and spreaded unity and love for each other [like the crystal heart(this is cutie mark) and in some sense also destiny] that is when she transformed.

Cozy glow just used magic to create a physical thorn on her head and contained magic in it, she has nothing regarding true transformation.


Actully alicorns are special!
We can magic from the 3 tribes either in a good way or a bad or geneticly
Cozy glow got the magic in evil way!


when cozy, chrysalis and storm king  get power from other ponies by that way, it help them to become the strongest form of their kinds. So this means ali-corn is the strongest form of unicorn and peganus ( No earth pony). As the strongest kind, they're born to be the ruler of equestria. To become ali-corn they must need the most powerful magic. Cozy unlocked the magic by force of the bell and becomes evil ali-corn. Starlight magic only powerful when she is also evil! The true strong Ali corn  must unlocked the magic through a bright way


ok but there is a hole, when the magic was taken from all the previous alicorns they didn't lose their alicorn traits. the journal of two sisters also implies  that  they were born alicorns and possibly from a different land entirely. that  seems to  be a bit of a hole. shouldn't twilight have turned back into a unicorn when all the magic was stripped from her?  same with the other alicorns when they lost their magic? It seems like there's a bit more to it than just the magic angle.


yes. That is correct- what made you think there was a sperate race of alicorns? also btw i have a solve from flurry heart. flurry heart could have been born an earth pony (like the rest of the crystal empire) shining armour is a unicorn and cadence was originally a pegasis according to many comics fan theory's and many parts in the comments section- just thought i should share my idea!

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"Finally Solving Alicorns"<br>for what? the 5th time?

"Finally Solving Alicorns"
for what? the 5th time?

@Darkness Angelic dang, great minds do think alike because this was my thought too xD

True, but now that the show is over, there's very little chance of it being debunked. Plus, I dare say this one makes a bit more sense than the last few. :P

Well there are 5 alicorns so everything is right.


I think that Alicorns come in three separate types. Born Alicorns, bequeathed Alicorns and False Alicorns.
Born would be Celestia and Luna, the last of an ancient bloodline of Alicorns (from before Equestria) and Flurry Heart the re-emergence of the bloodline. Bequeathed Alicorns are more like Cadence and Twilight who are essentially magically adopted by Celestia after she sees them act out something worthy of the power. This adoption includes a metamorphosis where they genetically become Alicorns allowing them to have baby Alicorns.
False Alicorns are only Alicorns in the sense that that they are capable of using all magic types and display a magical horn and/or wings. If their magic is exhausted as the false Alicorn isn't genetically different they will revert to their prior state. Examples include Cozy Glow and Sunny.


I think for cadence the same thing as the sisters happened but the crystal emp was losing love and light


Let’s reword your perspective of Sawtooth.

He’s a creepy 31 old man who talks about kid cartoons and has a kid personality. It might seem cute but if you see an old man begging his mom like a kid for candy won’t that make you feel disgusted?


Me: watches mlp on Netflix
Also me: sees that cozy became an alicorn/sees a scene that I have never seen before
Me again: WHAT HAVE I BEEN MISSINGGGG

Me: *watches mlp on Netflix*
Also me: *sees that cozy became an alicorn/sees a scene that I have never seen before*
Me again: WHAT HAVE I BEEN MISSINGGGG


I feel like a ruler has to be an alicorn but an alicorn does NOT has to be a ruler. What happened with cozy glow is special but we know an allicorn is a pony with magic of all 3 all ponies but to be a ruler you need a relationship of harmony.
Celestia love for younger sibling
Luna love for older sibling
Cadence love for another pony/foals
Flurry heart love for a caretaker
Twilight love for friendship
(And maybe a daughter of Flurry heart becoming ruler with love for grandparents just an idea with candence getting grandponies as love with she is the princess of love so it's logical that she has the most love relationships)

@Rosethz Ali corn rulers retire, for example, twilight became ruler of equestria because Luna and celestia relinquished their throne.

What happens if after generations of alicorns people just run out of relationships and types of love

Then how are there going to be alicorn rulers


And Celestia and Luna's experiences don't inform the audience of how Cadence became an alicorn?