I’m surprised you also didn’t mention how ruthlessly bullied Judy was by all her other co-stars and actors. Big egos who couldn’t accept a “little girl” being the main star, so they’d treat her like shit. The only person on set who was nice to her, the only friend she made, was ironically the one who played the witch.

@ThatRipOff "Judy once talked about how hard they would jostle and drag her around..."

Judy was making a joke. Jack Haley, who knew nothing like that ever happened, took her to task for it, she shot back, and they almost lost their decades-long friendship over it.

@One. If you're asking the OP, he or she doesn't know that. It's a rumor that got started I know neither where nor when, because as is shown in Judy's later life and words, she loved everyone she worked with on that movie, and had indeed worked with some of them before (Billie Burke, Jack Haley, and Buddy Ebsen, to be exact).

They all loved her as well, mainly because it was impossible not to. "Judy was as lighthearted a person as I ever met," said Jack Haley in one interview. Margaret Hamilton said, "Judy kept us all going. When she came on the set, it was as thought the lights got brighter."

@ThatRipOff Tell me, what would a figurative sixteen year-old be? Judy was not abused or overworked; on the contrary, as a sixteen year-old, she was only allowed to work for four hours a day as per California child labor laws. The elements of her life which led to her decline were in the future yet.

@MaskedMan66 wrong, this movie is just an excuse to bully actors

@MaskedMan66 wrong, this movie is just an excuse to bully actors

@Trantor The Troll Nobody on this movie.

@Trantor The Troll Nobody on this movie.

@Trantor The Troll If by "rich and famous" you mean "a literal 16 y/o child in one of her first major acting roles who was abused and overworked, leading to a life of self-destructive habits and monumental amounts of pressure that would ultimately lead to her taking her own life" then sure. Good job, you sure showed her.

@Joey Jerry Most villains are played by really nice people. :-)

@Joey Jerry Most villains are played by really nice people. :-)

Funny how the wicked witch of the west, one of the evilest villains in cinema, was played by such a nice person. Margaret Hamilton was a former schoolteacher and cared deeply for children and often gave to charity and would be upset when children were scared of her simply because she played the witch.

@Kyle Morello Margaret Hamilton was an actress, not an actor, Miss Garland's name was Judy, not Judie, and everybody got along with everybody else.

@Kyle Morello Margaret Hamilton was an actress, not an actor, Miss Garland's name was Judy, not Judie, and everybody got along with everybody else.

What? Margaret Hamilton, the actor who was also an elementary school teacher who cares for children and guest starred on both Sesame Street and Mister Rogers Neighborhood to show kids that the Wicked Witch wasn't as much of a one dimensional thug as the film went on, was the only co star that was treat Judie fair?

Yep. Makes sense.

@Moon Knight Nobody bullied Judy, so put your mind at rest. She was impossible to dislike, and everyone found her a great support in their difficulties with costumes and make-up. As Margaret Hamilton said, "Judy kept us all going. When she came on the set, it was as though the lights got brighter."

@Moon Knight Not sure about Lion, but Tin Man and Scarecrow especially…<br>Judy once talked about how hard they would jostle and drag her around during the “off to see the wizard” bits when they locked arms and danced down the road.

@Moon Knight Not sure about Lion, but Tin Man and Scarecrow especially…
Judy once talked about how hard they would jostle and drag her around during the “off to see the wizard” bits when they locked arms and danced down the road.

Wait even the lion and scarecrow???? Plz don’t tell me they were too…

Wait even the lion and scarecrow???? Plz don’t tell me they were too…

@isa I'm sure that the maker of this video didn't speak to 48 actors and crew who worked on the movie. Aljean Harmetz did, in preparation for her book "The Making of The Wizard of Oz," which was published in 1977 with an introduction by Margaret Hamilton, who praised Mrs. Harmetz's research as a "staggering accomplishment" and referred to the book as "a well of information."

The maker of this video would have done well to draw from that well, as well as from the books on the film by John Fricke (one of the world's leading authorities on Oz and Judy Garland), Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman.

@MaskedMan66 what I meant about "believing" is believing the video or believing your sources. Everything that's on the video was said by the people who we're actually there, and you're here telling otherwise 💀 either way, i don't have enough patient to talk to you lol, go be a a truth teller no one asked for.

@isa Anybody can know anything about any movie (or any event of any kind) by reading the words and experiences of the people who were there.

People also tell the truth, not just nowadays (which doesn't apply to the cast and crew of Wizard anyway), but at any time in the past.

I didn't specify set temperature or costume weight, nor did I restrict it to movies; I was talking about hot and uncomfortable costumes when I said, "Actors have had to do that for centuries. They still do." And as far as movies go, you bet they still do. Joonas Suotamo didn't wear a CGI Chewbacca costume in the last four Star Wars movies, he wore a real one. Likewise Anthony Daniels still got put into the fiberglass See-Threepio suit. Actors in stage productions and theme parks still wear very large and elaborate costumes depending on just what and who they are bringing to life. You've no doubt heard of men who will wear full armor in the heat of high summer at renaissance fairs and joust and do battle with one another.

And all that "opinion" and "believe what you want to believe" talk is pointless when discussing the truth.

@isa Anybody can know anything about any movie (or any event of any kind) by reading the words and experiences of the people who were there.

People also tell the truth, not just nowadays (which doesn't apply to the cast and crew of _Wizard_ anyway), but at any time in the past.

I didn't specify set temperature or costume weight, nor did I restrict it to movies; I was talking about hot and uncomfortable costumes when I said, "Actors have had to do that for centuries. They still do." And as far as movies go, you bet they still do. Joonas Suotamo didn't wear a CGI Chewbacca costume in the last four _Star Wars_ movies, he wore a real one. Likewise Anthony Daniels still got put into the fiberglass See-Threepio suit. Actors in stage productions and theme parks still wear very large and elaborate costumes depending on just what and who they are bringing to life. You've no doubt heard of men who will wear full armor in the heat of high summer at renaissance fairs and joust and do battle with one another.

And all that "opinion" and "believe what you want to believe" talk is pointless when discussing the truth.

@nic magtaan Nobody was ticked off at Judy.

@nic magtaan Nobody was ticked off at Judy.

@Slapstick Genius She was neither miserable nor unlucky while making <i>Wizard.</i>

@Slapstick Genius She was neither miserable nor unlucky while making _Wizard._

@MaskedMan66 damn, you almost sound like you've been in the set to know 😧<br>C'mon, people lie about everything nowadays just to seem good. Also, wearing a 100lb hot costume in a already hot set isn't something people do today, CGI is used for almost everything, even spider man's mask in no way home. A MASK. No one would dare put something like that on someone again, just use CGI and you're all good. But either way, you're entitled to your opinion lol, believe in what you want to believe.

@MaskedMan66 damn, you almost sound like you've been in the set to know 😧
C'mon, people lie about everything nowadays just to seem good. Also, wearing a 100lb hot costume in a already hot set isn't something people do today, CGI is used for almost everything, even spider man's mask in no way home. A MASK. No one would dare put something like that on someone again, just use CGI and you're all good. But either way, you're entitled to your opinion lol, believe in what you want to believe.

@I couldn't think of a username Wrong on all counts. She was an anti-smoker at that time in her life, and the only medicinal preparation she used while making the film was an appetite suppressant she took at night before bed. She was not sexually assaulted anywhere, let alone on the set where there were at any given time dozens of people putting things together and working to get the day's assignments done on schedule.

@Nate Box She didn't "have her skin turned green," she had green make-up put on. The exit from the Munchkin City wasn't meant to be a stunt, but the pyrotechnics went off too soon. That's what you call your basic accident.

"Conditions the lion or scarecrow were put through?" You mean wearing hot and uncomfortable costumes and make-up? Welcome to the wonderful world of acting! Actors have had to do that for centuries. They still do.

Buddy Ebsen was not "thrown to the side," he was released from the project because he couldn't continue; they certainly weren't going to make him work in his condition. Of course, when he'd recovered, MGM cast him in two more movies to make up for the inconvenience he'd gone through.

I have indeed provided sources; look for the titles of the three books I've been talking about, and indeed from which I've gotten all the info I've shared.

@Nate Box She didn't "have her skin turned green," she had green make-up put on. The exit from the Munchkin City wasn't meant to be a stunt, but the pyrotechnics went off too soon. That's what you call your basic *accident.*

"Conditions the lion or scarecrow were put through?" You mean wearing hot and uncomfortable costumes and make-up? Welcome to the wonderful world of acting! Actors have had to do that for centuries. They still do.

Buddy Ebsen was not "thrown to the side," he was released from the project because he couldn't continue; they certainly weren't going to make him work in his condition. Of course, when he'd recovered, MGM cast him in two more movies to make up for the inconvenience he'd gone through.

I have indeed provided sources; look for the titles of the three books I've been talking about, and indeed from which I've gotten all the info I've shared.

@MaskedMan66 what about the wicked witch who was put in dangerous stunts, and had her skin turned green? What about her stunt double who could of easily lost her life? What about the conditions the lion or scarecrow were put through? What about the tin man’s first actor who was thrown to the side the moment he had problems medically? This doesn’t seem like a good set at all. And you haven’t provided any sources yet to back up your claims.

@nic magtaan She may not have had a painful costume, but she was forced to smoke 80 cigarettes a day and was also drugged and sexuaIIy assaulted on set.

@nic magtaan She may not have had a painful costume, but she was forced to smoke 80 cigarettes a day and was also drugged and sexuaIIy assaulted on set.

@иннокентий About truth? Because people should.

@иннокентий About truth? Because people should.

@Takeda A moot point, since nobody on this film ever bullied Judy Garland.

@Takeda A moot point, since nobody on this film ever bullied Judy Garland.

@Lazergurka - Smerlin tbh I shouldn’t even care at this point either

@Lazergurka - Smerlin tbh I shouldn’t even care at this point either

@Takeda I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to but I don't really want to find out either

@Takeda I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to but I don't really want to find out either

@Lazergurka - Smerlin omfg everyone in this thread is sub-90 IQ he didn't say it was justified ever.

@Lazergurka - Smerlin omfg everyone in this thread is sub-90 IQ he didn't say it was justified ever.

@Kyle Donahue Thank you. Well, if you define a scholar as one who schools himself in a subject, then yes, I am a scholar. I'm a big fan of Oz in general, starting with the books and going on to the various adaptations. 🙂

@MaskedMan66 I’m impressed with your knowledge about this subject. Are you a scholar or just a big fan of the movie?

@MaskedMan66 I’m impressed with your knowledge about this subject. Are you a scholar or just a big fan of the movie?

@Joseph Mother It's not true. Judy was very popular with the cast and crew. The simple fact is that it was impossible to dislike her.

@Joseph Mother It's not true. Judy was very popular with the cast and crew. The simple fact is that it was impossible to dislike her.

@Lord Habitaxe of Prydonia If that's so, it isn't I. I'm just talking about <b>one movie</b> and what really did and didn't go on during its production.

@Lord Habitaxe of Prydonia If that's so, it isn't I. I'm just talking about *one movie* and what really did and didn't go on during its production.

@MaskedMan66 somebody's on hollywood's payroll for damage control

@MaskedMan66 somebody's on hollywood's payroll for damage control

@Lord Habitaxe of Prydonia A moot point, since nobody mistreated anybody on this picture.

@Lord Habitaxe of Prydonia A moot point, since nobody mistreated anybody on this picture.

@Who Dat Ninja understandable doesnt mean justifiable, youve conflated the terms

@Who Dat Ninja understandable doesnt mean justifiable, youve conflated the terms

@James Green First of all, no she didn't. Second, the Singer Midgets weren't mistreated.

And I'll add a third: read these books and learn what really did-- and didn't-- go on behind the scenes. They are "The Making of The Wizard of Oz" (1977) by Aljean Harmetz, "The Wizard of Oz: The Official 50th Anniversary Pictorial History" (1989) by John Fricke, Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman, and "The Road to Oz: The Evolution, Creation, and Legacy of a Motion Picture Masterpiece" (2019) by Scarfone and Stillman.

@MaskedMan66 first of all, she said that, not me. And second, I actually give a shit about little people and had I been making this, priority #1 would’ve been to make sure the munchkins weren’t mistreated. Hell! I haven’t even seen game of thrones yet and I’m already rooting for Peter Dinklage to survive.

@James Green Besides being a lie, that's also a very bigoted thing to say.

@James Green Besides being a lie, that's also a very bigoted thing to say.

@Mode The crew had nothing to do with anything; it was her mother who introduced her to amphetamines and barbiturates-- which, at the time, were regarded merely as medicine-- when Judy was 13. She didn't use them on a daily basis by any means, and only became an addict in adulthood.

@Scott Fleenor There was only one producer on "Wizard," namely Mervyn LeRoy, and the whole reason Judy was cast as Dorothy was because he was a big fan of hers and knew she could knock it out of the park. Other people weren't sure, since she'd only been with MGM for three years, but LeRoy was adamant and eventually she of course got the part. So if he campaigned that mightily to get her to star in his movie, he wasn't about to mistreat her, or to let anyone else mistreat her.

@Oceiano No "innocent hearts" were "lost."

@Oceiano No "innocent hearts" were "lost."

My heart will always go out to the innocent hearts lost in the making of this...True cruelty.

My heart will always go out to the innocent hearts lost in the making of this...True cruelty.

@Mode They can, and they can also just be self-deprecating jokes. In any case, nobody involved in "Wizard" caused Judy any trauma; on the contrary, she found a second family in that cast and crew.

@Mode They can, and they can also just be self-deprecating jokes. In any case, nobody involved in "Wizard" caused Judy any trauma; on the contrary, she found a second family in that cast and crew.

@MaskedMan66 you realize self deprecating jokes can be used to deal with trauma, correct?

@MaskedMan66 you realize self deprecating jokes can be used to deal with trauma, correct?

@Mode LOL  Not "trauma," just a self-deprecating "joke," and you'll notice how quickly Bolger refuted it.

@Mode LOL  Not "trauma," just a self-deprecating "joke," and you'll notice how quickly Bolger refuted it.

@MaskedMan66 already at 1:20 in that video she's referencing "the little fat girl" that they called her. obvious trauma from bullying. sick evidence that counters exactly what you're saying

@MaskedMan66 already at 1:20 in that video she's referencing "the little fat girl" that they called her. obvious trauma from bullying. sick evidence that counters exactly what you're saying

@MaskedMan66 what you said is the way I've always heard to. I've heard the producers and director treated her bad. Mainly the control and who knows what to get the role by the studio and producers, but never by the other actors.

@ThatRipOff You're the one under a mistaken impression if you think all of those men and women who have always had nothing but praise for Judy are in some way "bullies" and "sexual harassers." You need to shift that paradigm.

You also need to prove that Judy herself ever made any such accusations about anyone with whom she worked on that film, especially considering that she was friends with them ever afterward.

Does this look like someone who was "bullied" and one of her "harassers?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQ0jRlE5e4

@MaskedMan66 Oh yeah, sure bro. Trust the words of the bullies and harassers more than the person who was bullied and sexually harassed. Classic enabler.

@MaskedMan66 Oh yeah, sure bro. Trust the words of the bullies and harassers more than the person who was bullied and sexually harassed. Classic enabler.

@Who Dat Ninja There was no bullying, vicious or otherwise.

@Who Dat Ninja There was no bullying, vicious or otherwise.

Judy wasn't bullied by anybody; they all found her charming and amazingly bright and talented. Margaret Hamilton has said, "Judy kept us all going. When she came on the set, it was as though the lights got brighter." Jack Haley described her as "born to brilliance."

Ray Bolger was totally enchanted by her and was especially impressed with how smart she was; she recited Poe's "The Raven" for him, and when the movie was finished, he made her a gift of a first edition wood cut of the poem.

Meinhardt Raabe, who played the Munchkin Coroner, spoke on behalf of his fellow Little People when he said of Judy, “We were treated as equals by her. She would sit down on the steps on the set with the rest of us and chat every day.”

@Who Dat Ninja Case in point. Angel of Death by Slayer. They understood the atrocities of the holocaust, and made art with that understanding,  not once in the song or in interviews did they say the holocaust was justifiable/justified. You're doing exactly what Christian's did, saying understanding = acceptance/agreeance. Gtfo.

@exzisd tbh the algorithm can be unpredictable and can make no sense whatsoever, but I feel like this video would still get fucked for mentioning even the words “drugs” “death” “toxin”’

@exzisd tbh the algorithm can be unpredictable and can make no sense whatsoever, but I feel like this video would still get fucked for mentioning even the words “drugs” “death” “toxin”’

@Who Dat Ninja Considering the environment that actors in the 30s worked with, vicious bullying was the least of her problems. How about the physical abuse of the director and the near deadly conditions?

@Clocked

Really because that's just a physical representation of what happens in our brain. When I add one apple to another I now got two apples. Doesn't necessarily mean I'm justifying the fact I stole one. I just got two apples. It's a conclusion mate. I don't know how else you are supposed to understand things without it.

Another example is when the investigation into a murder is done. One of the things that are figured out is motive. How do you do that? Oh, you put clues and context together. Wait a second that sounds familiar. So, I'm basically putting two and two together to figure out the motive. Does that mean when I figure out the motive for the murder I've justified it or thaf I've simply understood the reason behind it?

The answer is the latter.

@Last Man Standing Yes, but you seemed to miss that I was pointing out that coming to the conclusion A+B = C isn"t just understanding an equation, it is also validating it. I still think it isn't that great of a comparison to make for this context

@Clocked

I didn't say 2+2 tho. "Putting two and two" together is an expression meant for figuring something out. What I did say was a+b=c meaning that when you look at two separate things and put them together to get a conclusion. Which is what everyone here was talking about.

That's some irony I could never imagine.

That's some irony I could never imagine.

@Last Man Standing 2+2 = 4 is not just an understanding, but a justification for 4. I get what you're saying, but that's a bad example

@Last Man Standing 2+2 = 4 is not just an understanding, but a justification for 4. I get what you're saying, but that's a bad example

I'm guessing that the mention of bullying wouldn't fly well with the algorithm even in context although yea that could have been alluded to. I think it's about more than just the terrible set though. It's about how through time people have suffered and created art and the art is remembered as well as how societies rise and fall and people come and go. I really enjoyed this.

@YostToastSpaceGhost The video already covered that.

@YostToastSpaceGhost The video already covered that.

@Who Dat Ninja

Everyone else already said it but I kinda want to be an ass and say it too.

You can understand why someone does something without agreeing with it or thinking it's justified. It's like putting two and two together. A+B=C

@Who Dat Ninja theres a difference between “understandable” and “justifiable”, just because you can understand the reasoning behind the actor’s actions doesn’t mean you agree with them

@Who Dat Ninja theres a difference between “understandable” and “justifiable”, just because you can understand the reasoning behind the actor’s actions doesn’t mean you agree with them

@Who Dat Ninja Just because you understand why someone did something doesn't mean that you believe what they did is justified.<br>Evil doesn't have to be an enigma

@Who Dat Ninja Just because you understand why someone did something doesn't mean that you believe what they did is justified.
Evil doesn't have to be an enigma

@Who Dat Ninja did you not read my comment man. I said it's not right. Understandable frustration in the sense that's its not senseless anger. That doesn't make it right but I wouldn't call it senseless. You are implying I think the abuse was ok or acceptable. Which is absolutely not the case. Do not put words in my mouth

@King Of The Sandbox there's no "understandable frustration" for vicious bullying. next you'll say the disgusting munchkin actors were right to harass her because she wore a dress.

@King Of The Sandbox there's no "understandable frustration" for vicious bullying. next you'll say the disgusting munchkin actors were right to harass her because she wore a dress.

@nic magtaan yea I agree. Its not right but it's understandable frustration.

@nic magtaan yea I agree. Its not right but it's understandable frustration.

@nic magtaan Yeah I have to imagine that's part of it. She's the star, she's young and unlike everyone else she's not in a painful costume.

@nic magtaan Yeah I have to imagine that's part of it. She's the star, she's young and unlike everyone else she's not in a painful costume.

yeah big egos, 100 degrees Fahrenheit sets, unbearable costumes. no wonder they are ticked of to a girl who had no other painful costume. its just sad

yeah big egos, 100 degrees Fahrenheit sets, unbearable costumes. no wonder they are ticked of to a girl who had no other painful costume. its just sad

Life was so near impossible for the miserable and unlucky Judy.

Life was so near impossible for the miserable and unlucky Judy.


Shortly after watching this, I was given a school assignment to write about how drugs affected the life of a celebrity and how they got on the drug. I did Judy Garland inspired by the video and while everyone else did mostly rappers, everyone who asked me who I was doing would not know who she played. After looking deeper into her life, it somehow is even more tragic than shown here. I feel really bad for her

@MaskedMan66 I'm not even trying to offend you bro its just funny 🤣

@MaskedMan66 I'm not even trying to offend you bro its just funny 🤣

@MaskedMan66 900 comments on this channel 🤣

@MaskedMan66 900 comments on this channel 🤣

@Laupis As Lorna Luft has said about the Singer Midgets' alleged mistreatment of her mother, "That didn’t happen. They would have never, ever risked their careers, their once chance to be in a film."

@Laupis Got a life, thanks (probably a more fun one than you) and if I'm lying, then so is reality.

@Laupis Got a life, thanks (probably a more fun one than you) and if I'm lying, then so is reality.

@MaskedMan66 Get a life man, and stop lying in the comment section.

@MaskedMan66 Get a life man, and stop lying in the comment section.

@Plague doctor The longest most unneeded discussion of all time

@Plague doctor The longest most unneeded discussion of all time

@MaskedMan66 I'd respond in kind but lord knows you'll keep coming back forever.

@MaskedMan66 I'd respond in kind but lord knows you'll keep coming back forever.

@MooGoblin Come back when you're ready to make sense.

@MooGoblin Come back when you're ready to make sense.

@Datbanan No worries! I may not have mentioned them in this thread, but as long as this thread is, I ain't goin' lookin'. :-)

@Datbanan No worries! I may not have mentioned them in this thread, but as long as this thread is, I ain't goin' lookin'. :-)

@MaskedMan66 well ill have to look into that then, sorry i didnt notice you already saying your sources

@MaskedMan66 well ill have to look into that then, sorry i didnt notice you already saying your sources

@Datbanan I've been giving my sources all along, namely the three most authoritative books that have been published about the movie: "The Making of The Wizard of Oz" (1977) by Aljean Harmetz with an introduction by Margaret Hamilton, "The Wizard of Oz: The Official 50th Anniversary Pictorial History" (1989) by John Fricke, Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman with an introduction by Jack Haley, Jr., and "The Road to Oz: The Evolution, Creation, and Legacy of a Motion Picture Masterpiece" (2019) by Scarfone and Stillman.

If you really want to know the story, you'll find it in those books. The good, the bad, and (most often) the mundane are all there.

@MaskedMan66 if you are so sure on giving real information why arent you giving links to sources of youre information yet, everyone knows correct info can be hard to find on the internet so why not share the links you have so we can all know the real information on this

@Lordi P.S.: Is your screen name a reference to a certain horror-themed metal band?

@Lordi P.S.: Is your screen name a reference to a certain horror-themed metal band?

@Lordi If people were spreading misinformation and indeed lies about a subject on which you were well-informed, you would want them to have the facts as well. That's not being "triggered," that's being helpful.

@MaskedMan66 I mean it is spamming when you post hundreds of comments on a single video because you got triggered

@MaskedMan66 I mean it is spamming when you post hundreds of comments on a single video because you got triggered

@Lordi Not spamming, just sharing information. Real information. Check your feelings at the door and open your intellect to the facts.

@Lordi Not spamming, just sharing information. Real information. Check your feelings at the door and open your intellect to the facts.

@MaskedMan66 Being condescending isn't a good look but go off i guess.

People are gonna be less inclined to do what you say because of your spam BTW but whatever.

@Lordi I'm flattered that you want to make this all about me, but it isn't. The facts about this movie, accessible in the books I've listed, are available for anyone to read. Find them and read them yourself, and learn a few things.

@MaskedMan66 Doubtful since you've been basically spamming for months but whatever I guess

@MaskedMan66 Doubtful since you've been basically spamming for months but whatever I guess

@Lordi LOL From what? It's when I have a break from daily routine that I noodle around on the computer, and even then I'm multitasking.

@Laupis What have you got against the truth?

@Laupis What have you got against the truth?

Youtube reply mfs on their way to do anything but what anyone asked for and just be total redditors

Youtube reply mfs on their way to do anything but what anyone asked for and just be total redditors

@MaskedMan66 Dude you've been making gaslighting comments on this video for months and it's really sad.

@MaskedMan66 Dude you've been making gaslighting comments on this video for months and it's really sad.

@seya Diakite Wrong. Ethel Gumm introduced her daughters to amphetamines (not to be confused with methamphetamine, which Judy never used in her life) and barbiturates when Judy was 13. They were not "recreational substances," but medicines, and the harmful effects had not yet been catalogued.

Judy used neither while working on "Wizard" since her work day was only four hours, half the length of everyone else's.

@MaskedMan66 what I meant by "all of this" is that her mom kept giving her energy and sleep pills for performances before she was even 10. She remembered her mom in her later life as the real wicked witch of the west.

@MaskedMan66 people who knew judy garland confirmed the facts. None of us here know what happend. Mickey Rooney, her late best friend and co-star, knew alot of things about her. Even her daughters and son, who are still alive today.

@MaskedMan66 they gave her pills to reduce her appetite and sleeping pills because she had long hours or production, and amphetamines. She grew a lot more addicted to it for the rest of her life.

@seya Diakite LOL  She didn't NEED any "drugs to focus on the set." She was a naturally talented and focused performer.

@seya Diakite LOL  She didn't NEED any "drugs to focus on the set." She was a naturally talented and focused performer.

@MaskedMan66 her drug addict started when they gave her all those drugs to focus on set. That addiction followed her for the rest of her life

@seya Diakite The movie did not ruin Judy's life, other things did. If you follow her life, you'll see that she always looked back upon "Wizard" with fondness, and always spoke in the highest terms of the people with whom she worked. You'll also notice that she adopted "Over the Rainbow" as her personal theme song, a thing she would never have done if "Wizard" was at all a bad time or memory for her.

@MaskedMan66 yeah but her mom allowed her to drug herself for showbusiness starting at a very young age. She once said her mom was the real wicked witch of the west. I know the wizard of oz is an amazing movie, but it ruined her life to death.

@seya Diakite I'm not sure what you mean by "all of this." Judy was a born performer, and loved it. What she didn't love was being overworked, but that was after the success of "Wizard" made her a star.

@Mixalis zintis Incidentally, I'm flattered that y'all want to make this about me, but it isn't. It's about MGM's "The Wizard of Oz." Do keep to the topic at had.

@Mixalis zintis I don't need to argue; I'm in possession of the facts, as anyone can be who reads the right sources.

@Mixalis zintis I don't need to argue; I'm in possession of the facts, as anyone can be who reads the right sources.

@MaskedMan66 dude please take a walk outside you really dont win anything arguing with people online

@MaskedMan66 dude please take a walk outside you really dont win anything arguing with people online

@MaskedMan66 Textbook example of a troll. These people took the bait, good job!

@MaskedMan66 Textbook example of a troll. These people took the bait, good job!

@Cirrus You've never read the books, and before I'd mentioned them, I'm sure you were unaware of them. Not only do they relate what happened during production, but in Aljean Harmetz's book, Margaret Hamilton, Buddy Ebsen, and Betty Danko give their own accounts of what they dealt with.

@BedrockCastle777  "This man" is reporting what a woman and three other men discovered via decades of research and direct communication with the people who worked on the movie. Aljean Harmetz spoke with forty-eight people, cast and crew alike (including her own mother, who was in Wardrobe) for her book, which sugarcoats nothing.

@Cirrus You'd never even heard of the books I mentioned until I brought them up. How about you actually read them before declaring anything about them? Margaret Hamilton certainly enjoyed Aljean Harmetz's book, to which she added her unvarnished, unglamorized account of when she got burned.

@MaskedMan66 You know, I used to think he and I were the same. Seeing as how he was so small and slender, just like a girl…

In a men’s society where physical health and strength are the standards we are measured against, he was looked down upon.

I thought that he’d be frustrated and rebellious, with an inferiority complex simmering under the surface.

That he held the same dreams and desires as me, that he was someone who would come running toward the same goal.

So I thought I understood his feelings. To my embarrassment, I was mistaken.

I thought he would sympathize with and support me, and fight by my side… So when I was admitted to the hospital for my condition, I had him do what I wanted while I was unable to move.

And what I wanted was to bring revolution to Yumenosaki and the idol industry. For that purpose, I had to squeeze out the pus and disease and dispose of them.

At that time, I was in and out of the hospital, so it was a lot of trouble trying to do everything myself.

It was my first trial, as something that no one had tried before… And I didn’t have much confidence in it, so I had him give it a go first.

While indoctrinating him with half-truths, I used the student council, created new plans…

And from both on the surface and behind the scenes, I secretly tried to control him.

That trial went well, for the most part.

I broke up the swollen Chess, used Judgment to remove the ill, affected areas… used Duel to kill off enemies, the disease attacking from outside.

Judgment was put down as J, Duel as D, and any other DreamFes were labelled as O…

For convenience, I separated them by alphabetic letters on the student council’s paperwork.

The remnants of that alphabetic management system are why even now DreamFes are officially called S1, A1, and the like.

Well, I digress.

The point is, DreamFes around that time was still just an experiment… It was still an unpolished prototype, so there was no guarantee it would work as I’d expected.

So to take the responsibility of possible failure off me, I fixed someone else at the center of it. In other words, that someone was Tsukinaga-kun.

He was my stand-in protagonist. Thanks to him, I managed to collect a considerable amount of practical data and removed quite a bit of pus from the school.

Of course, we may call it a war or something along those lines, but there were no actual casualties.

The defeated continued on with their carefree lives, but in the later revolution, I made them my supporters.

Tsukinaga-kun continued his steady growth beyond my expectations, and his strength grew far too great…

So to put an end to all of that, I held Checkmate after my condition stabilized.

Checkmate… It was only DreamFes in history to be labelled with the letter C, and became the point at which the path split.

After that, the protagonist changed. I went into action, moving along our plan to conquer the Five Oddballs.

Tsukinaga-kun had exhausted his role. It was clear he was on the verge of a decline.

As he defeated his former comrades, one after another, he soon became resented by everyone and could no longer triumph in DreamFes battles…

But even then, he would cry justice, like Don Quixote, as he continued to fight the villains.

We were concerned with essentially the same things, so there were times when we fought together, too.

However, that relationship didn’t last long, either.

After all, he could probably guess what I’d been planning. He’d say something like “You’re the mastermind, huh~”, and challenge me on many occasions. Either way, I shot back.

He’d already been driven into a corner by then, and no one would stop to listen to the words of a bygone hero, now despised and ostracized.

In fact, people would gather around me in sympathy, telling me how bad they felt hearing such strange things being said to me.

I took advantage of every one of his actions to kindle the fire of my revolution. He burned up, disappeared… and everything went just as I had planned.

Just like the foolish naked king, you all just embarrassed yourselves in letting yourselves be used. I do offer my condolences, though I suppose I’m the last person you’d want empathy from.

It was a war. Those who were deceived are at fault, and those who survived preside as justice.

Of course I felt terrible, but I continued to tell myself that… And I stood atop your remains.

At least this sacrifice wasn’t in vain… All I can do now is assert this.

@MaskedMan66
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We're not like the others who get all the fame
If your sink is in trouble, you can call us on the double
We're faster than the others, you'll be hooked on the Brothers, uh!

H-hooked on the brothers
Gimme gimme, gimme gimme!

Yo, you're in for a treat, so hang on to your seat
Get ready for adventure and remarkable feats
You'll meet Koopa, the Troopas, the Princess, and the others
Hangin' with the plumbers, you'll be hooked on the brothers!
To the bridge!

Uh, uh!

I said-a h-h-h-h-hooked on the brothers!
The brothers!
The brothers!

@Garrtoons exactly plus many of the books glamorize and ignore the issues the actors faced on-set, plus sighting books that bootlick MGM is laughable for the dude.

@MaskedMan66 Hundreds or maybe thousands of articles from trustworthy companies and journalists.

If they were proven false, people would be agreeing with you by now. Are they, though?

@MaskedMan66 Holy Cannoli kids I’m Mario! And I’m tellin’ ya, if you’re not watching the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, you’re gonna turn into a goomba! Don’t be the last on your block to be playin’ with PASTA POWER. Tune in for the wildest weekday fun in the universe! Join me, Luigi, Princess Toadstool, and Toad.

We’re gonna kick some koopa WOOO!!

@Garrtoons might as well grab a drink for the evening should the dude reply with some none-sense.

@Garrtoons might as well grab a drink for the evening should the dude reply with some none-sense.

@Cirrus I know. I'm just going along with the madness. 😅

@Cirrus I know. I'm just going along with the madness. 😅

@Garrtoons this man has been commenting none-sense for well over a month at this point, your better off gawking at his Chewbacca videos where random people in the comments say "ew" and he calls them "anti-chewbacca racists" negating the fact that its not racist to be weirded out by some random dude dressed up as chewy making a bunch of special occasion greeting videos.

edit: since youtube mobile shows how many comments a person made on a yt channel, 354 fucking comments most recent being from this specific video.

@MaskedMan66 any proof to back up that statement? any links to articles? anything? no, of course not.

@MaskedMan66 any proof to back up that statement? any links to articles? anything? no, of course not.

@Garrtoons Glad not to disappoint, but I'm here a lot, you know. Wherever the truth needs to be told, I'm there like Dr. K. Besides, I'm not the only one these days.

@MaskedMan66 You know, I've been waiting for this day to come.

The day where you will NO DOUBT reply to this kind of stuff. 😂

Other than that, that's nice of her children.

@Garrtoons She was not sexually harassed. Luft was Judy's third husband and was not a part of her life when she made "Wizard." He regurgitated a lot of bigoted lies in his "memoir" because he knew that scandal sells.

His and Judy's children Lorna and Joey, on the other hand, were great supporters of the Singer Midgets and worked with their surviving members for as long as those Little People lived to clear up the bad reports. As Lorna Luft has said about the Singer Midgets' alleged mistreatment of her mother, "That didn’t happen. They would have never, ever risked their careers, their once chance to be in a film."

@Moon Bug The truth is the truth; it doesn't matter who you're hearing it from, nor if your narrow view of the world doesn't allow for fun.

@Garrtoons good god thats... i had no idea that even happened.

@Garrtoons good god thats... i had no idea that even happened.

Especially since she was sexually harassed by the actors who played the Munchkins (thank Garland's ex-husband Sid Luft for the information).

@Jacqueline Davis Why are you so hostile to the truth? You'd think people would be glad to know that all the guff about Judy being victimized on this picture is not true.

By the way, "eat grass" means "take a bribe."

Judy was not under any requirements for meds when she made this movie.

Judy was not under any requirements for meds when she made this movie.


You recieve: Physical and mental scars that you will never forget.

I recieve: The most watched film of all time

@Certified Intellectual: James Taboo And most of those videos are full of exaggerations and even outright lies about what went down. To this very day, actors have to deal with uncomfortable costumes and make-up under hot studio lights or even hot locations. Think of Anthony Daniels encased in top-to-toe fiberglass out in the desert for the Star Wars movies. And unlike the hot lights in the Wizard of Oz sound stages, the sun can't be shut off every half hour for a break.

@Certified Intellectual: James Taboo And most of those videos are full of exaggerations and even outright lies about what went down. To this very day, actors have to deal with uncomfortable costumes and make-up under hot studio lights or even hot locations. Think of Anthony Daniels encased in top-to-toe fiberglass out in the desert for the _Star Wars_ movies. And unlike the hot lights in the _Wizard of Oz_ sound stages, the sun can't be shut off every half hour for a break.

You also receive countless videos explaining just how bad the set of the Wizard of Oz was and how hellish the actors/actress’ experiences on said set were.

Betty Danko, who was the stuntwoman for Margaret Hamilton, had already received the worst on-the-job scars she ever had in her career, getting seventeen stitches after a mountain nearly bit off her left foot while she was doubling for the lead actress in a comedy.

@MaskedMan66 nah they are paid to act, not abused there is a difference

@acacia The actors were not abused; it was just hard work. You might as well say that construction workers are "abused."

Miss Hamilton's stunt double Betty Danko had received worse scars when she was doubling for an actress in a comedy some years before <i>Wizard;</i> a mountain lion almost bit her foot off; she got 17 stitches as a result.

Miss Hamilton's stunt double Betty Danko had received worse scars when she was doubling for an actress in a comedy some years before _Wizard;_ a mountain lion almost bit her foot off; she got 17 stitches as a result.

@Teya Not at all; she wasn't the kind of person to hold a grudge or let anything keep her down.

@MaskedMan66 that is so wonderful to hear. I’m glad she didn’t look back on it with a heavy heart.

@yossarian There's a video of her "Sesame Street" appearance here on YouTube. It was recorded by someone pointing a camera at the T.V., so the quality isn't that great, but it's something at least!

@yossarian If the "Mr. Rogers" episode wasn't banned, then I doubt the "Sesame Street" episode was. I understand there were other reasons as regards that. Miss Hamilton also played the WWW in a 1976 Halloween special starring comedian Paul Lynde.

@Dante The Wanderer I'm talking about before she got Alzheimer's.

@MaskedMan66 Damn it's almost like Alzheimers makes it hard to dwell on anything

Margaret Hamilton, who, as everyone knows, got burned while making the movie, adored the finished product, and never dwelled on her scars.


I always knew that Hollywood in general was horrible and they treat their celebrities, but this was even horrible than I thought.

@tiru liru Hollywood began over a hundred years ago as a small suburb and an artistic community; the rot didn't set in until much later. Incidentally, one of Hollywood's earliest residents was L. Frank Baum, who indeed made some movies himself, two of them based on his Oz books.

This is why you see all these celebrities go nuts and fall off the wagon with drugs, booze and other self destructive behavior. How much abuse can you expect someone to take before they crack?

@MaskedMan66 hollywood always promotes toxic behaviour such as this movie, prove me wrong

@MaskedMan66 The fire in my house isn't so bad. I think I'll stay inside. After all, the fire in my neighbor's house is two degrees hotter.

@[やæ] "Almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. On other movie projects, dozens of people <i>did</i> die.

@[やæ] "Almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. On other movie projects, dozens of people _did_ die.

@Vher Not with rival studios; they'd have been more than happy to have those great talents working for them. Besides, what "bigwig executives?" I was talking about the cast and crew and their kind words for each other.

@MaskedMan66 yeah dude, I'm sure it would've gone well if the staff went around trash talking the bigwig executives from the monopoly that was MGM after they were mistreated. would've been fun trying to find a job after that !

@DemonicRemption Scarcely murder. And if you want to avoid danger, I suggest you wrap your house in bubble wrap and never leave it.

Of course, they say most accidents happen in the home....

@MaskedMan66

Oh well since you asked, here are the following reactions:

Olivia Jackson (Milla Jovovich's stunt double on Resident Evil: The Final Chapter ) lost an arm filming a motorcycle sequence<--- "WHOA! GOOD LORD!!! :O"

" David Holmes (Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows ) is now a quadriplegic because of a stunt that went wrong,"<--- "Oh my lord!!! O_O"

Vic Morrow and child actresses Myca Dinh Le and Renee Shin-Yi Chen were killed by a crashing helicopter on location for Twilight Zone: The Movie?<--- HOLY $H!T!!! :O

To think I wanted to work in Hollywood, I think I'll keep my distance from that house of mutilation and murder.

@DemonicRemption What then would be your reaction to the news that Olivia Jackson (Milla Jovovich's stunt double on Resident Evil: The Final Chapter ) lost an arm filming a motorcycle sequence, or that David Holmes (Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows ) is now a quadriplegic because of a stunt that went wrong, or that actor Vic Morrow and child actresses Myca Dinh Le and Renee Shin-Yi Chen were killed by a crashing helicopter on location for Twilight Zone: The Movie? I could name you many, many more movies which were plagued by far worse things than ever happened to the cast and crew of The Wizard of Oz (and that's leaving out the exaggerations and lies that have often accompanied "reports" of that movie's production).

@DemonicRemption What then would be your reaction to the news that Olivia Jackson (Milla Jovovich's stunt double on _Resident Evil: The Final Chapter_ ) lost an arm filming a motorcycle sequence, or that David Holmes (Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double on _Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows_ ) is now a quadriplegic because of a stunt that went wrong, or that actor Vic Morrow and child actresses Myca Dinh Le and Renee Shin-Yi Chen were killed by a crashing helicopter on location for _Twilight Zone: The Movie?_ I could name you many, many more movies which were plagued by far worse things than ever happened to the cast and crew of _The Wizard of Oz_ (and that's leaving out the exaggerations and lies that have often accompanied "reports" of that movie's production).

@Crispy Toast

No kidding. I'm losing count over how many times I've said "Oh My God!" or "Holy crap!" to the horrific things that happened to these people.

Yeah, this was all the bad parts of Hollywood, but amplified to 10. Poor Judy was also extremely bullied by the other costars whom couldn’t stand the fact that the lead of the movie was a little girl and not them. She was bullied by the directors and executives, bullied by her costars, was starved by the diet they gave her, and forced to become addicted to amphetamines also. What a tragedy all around

You say <b>is</b> as if this video isnt about events from 1939

You say *is* as if this video isnt about events from 1939

@Logan Taylor Hollywood, schmollywood; I'm talking about one movie.

@Flaky It was one short paragraph. Don't be cowardly.

@Samuel Aviles I do, especially having read the authoritative books "The Making of The Wizard of Oz" (1977) by Aljean Harmetz (who interviewed 48 people who worked on the movie, actors and behind-the-scenes personnel alike), "The Wizard of Oz: The Official 50th Anniversary Pictorial History" (1989) by John Fricke, Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman, and "The Road to Oz: The Evolution, Creation, and Legacy of a Motion Picture Masterpiece" (2019) by Scarfone and Stillman.