Witness report: "it was a short white man"
Police: arrest the tallest black man they can find.

Good police work there skippy.

@Irate Puffin so they didn’t do a part of their job? Some solid police work right there

@Irate Puffin so they didn’t do a part of their job? Some solid police work right there

🙄 He was the only person in the alley. I guess in your haste to label someone a racist you failed to hear JCS say that they most likely didn’t read the call logs to see that they were looking for a short white guy. Miscommunication happens and it can happen even more in fast paced situations.

That is a British accent, not an Australian one.

That is a British accent, not an Australian one.

witnesses don't always give accurate descriptions. it happens literally all the time. nobody near the crime scene except for him after someone ran, they're going to arrest him. a shit situation.

"arrest the tallest black man they can find"

considering he was the first and only person they ran into after they cleared the alleyway means they didn't have to search very long or hard.

ayo this is the internet no one gives credit and it doesnt matter. At the end of the day, his comment was entertaining.

@Shrigma Male Videos buy some brain cells

@Shrigma Male Videos buy some brain cells

@ominous warning   it's actually Ontario, Canada

@ominous warning   it's actually Ontario, Canada

racism clogging the gears of the justice system in effect

racism clogging the gears of the justice system in effect

Forever immortalised in video as the dumbest & worst detective ever! <br>A serious threat to the community & police intelligence.

Forever immortalised in video as the dumbest & worst detective ever!
A serious threat to the community & police intelligence.

@Someone i see zero other comments like this pardon

@Someone i see zero other comments like this pardon

@Shrigma Male Videos leave the kid alone I care

@Shrigma Male Videos leave the kid alone I care

@DarthSlobbius defending against bullying is fine, and noble. I assume you're still in high school or shortly out of it. I meant specifically this conversation; your words aren't going to impact anyone. You seem to have an infatuation with assuming that you've hurt me or others. I found that odd and had to point out that you aren't hurting anyone with your words, especially online. Copying and pasting a joke isn't some sort of bad mindset any more than repeating a joke you heard.

I do have to point out the arrogance: you say you're not posturing as morally superior, but then claim you're paving the way for others. You might think you're being humble, but a truly humble person wouldn't think or say such things about themselves. In fact, if you were to ever meet a truly humble person, you likely wouldn't notice anything in particular (CS Lewis). Your statements here resound with pride and reinforce the moral superiority. If you truly didn't believe that your opinion on this is the "better" path, you would have stated your opinion and accepted the ridicule that followed, rather than continuing to double down on how bad this is, and retracting the intent of your original comments to say that you meant other, undefined situations. That's a defensive mechanism after you realized how laughable it is to gatekeep comment copying.

I'm bringing it back to the comment copying specifically because that's what the conversation was about. 🤷♂

@Sashi and again, I don’t know why YOU are focusing so heavily on the comment copying… I’ve said many times that is the least of concerns here.

@Sashi ah, sorry. Didn’t see this one lol

I certainly did not place myself at any higher moral ground than any others. We all have these desires. I simply give way for others to follow, which they sometimes do. And in any case, the fact that you try to throw in my face that my words have an impact on no one is simply false. For many, it is true, but those who have hardened their hearts will not be hurt anyway. Those who wish to listen will walk away with a different perspective that they may find helpful.

@Sashi people only find me annoying when there is something happening, such as any type of bullying, that I care to call out that they don’t like to hear. Otherwise, I’m pretty chill. I’ve actually been part of quite a few “cool” groups in school. They in themselves have a lot of negative tendencies, but it’s an honor… I guess lol.

It is (much) less about the literal act of copying, and more about the mindsets and motives behind certain actions.

And I'm sorry that you have the personality of an annoying person. You've mentioned several times that people find you annoying, which indicates to me that you've been told that several times, and you've decided to just be yourself anyway. So, kudos for that, at the least. Right now, you're not being annoying, I'm just confused why you need to try to justify thinking that copying other people's work is so wrong when it doesn't hurt anyone (in this case), especially with so much unnecessary detail.

@Sashi Regrettably you are correct, but still not in the most significant way. I still have no intent to “force” my will or demands on anyone to burden them with something that is not theirs. I ask you this: do you truly believe it is right to, verbally or physically, attack someone else for unknowingly violating a boundary? This is a theoretical situation, but it presents good opportunity to bring to light universal values.

If someone lacks all empathic capability, they are deemed ill, and massively mentally disfigured at that. In other words, there are certain moral tendencies that exist, to some degree, in every person (save psychopaths). Some have stronger moral compasses, but they are present in all of us. Values can be and are learned, but there are also core understandings we have as human beings that we all share.

Here’s the catch: they, with enough perseverance, can be unlearned. This process is becoming easier and easier in the world we find ourselves in, and so it is that you come across those who are willing to trample on others for all kinds of reasons, worst of all for selfish pleasure.

Perhaps the most obvious of the core values is to protect and do no harm to the innocent. Whether or not we wish to believe it, we are all born with an innate desire to protect purity in all its forms. This desire is weakened and deformed throughout life, but it is still a core principle that must be guarded against those who have let it become twisted and faded.

The phenomenon of the frog in the boiling pot describes well the way in which we justify horrific acts of malice toward others, either as a bystander or a the offender, or even as the victim. The point of all this is to say that, regardless of the priorities of the group, or the feelings that are hurt, these core principles cannot be violated; I uphold my belief, not because it is my own, but because it is shared deeply within all who write in this thread. Would you stand up in the face of bullying? Racism? I expect at least part of you would want to, and that is the part that desires justice and purity and peace. Listen to that voice. It is not easy to face off against a world that is attempting to strip us of conscience. It is a refined process now, and we have to be prepared to fiercely defend what we believe in, no matter what others say or what they’ll do.

This is why I defend in the most meaningless of places. This is why I do not tolerate hatred and blind rage toward anyone, and instead request calm discussion and intellectual progress. I am annoying to many, but if just one man benefits, I believe the cost is well worth it; those who don’t want to listen will move on in a matter of minutes and never look back.

Long story short, I will not leave simply because you find me annoying or superficially hurtful. Once again, I’m sorry if I truly hurt you; that was never my intent, but I will not be swayed to ignore our core principles. No one else stands up for them, so I will. I will speak up no matter who laughs, or jeers, or hates. They will always come to point fingers, but soon they will find that the are pointing at the parts of themselves they cannot bear.

I want to emphasize that I do not claim to be infallible in the slightest sense, nor do I hold any sort of self-righteous attitude toward you or anyone else. I see it for what it is: a group full of hurt and pain that neglects to defend those who cannot defend themselves. The desire for peace is ultimately a universal one, tainted by various shortcomings of the world. Don’t let that dictate the rest of life for us.

@Sashi Regrettably you are correct, but still not in the most significant way. I still have no intent to “force” my will or demands on anyone to burden them with something that is not theirs. I ask you this: do you truly believe it is right to, verbally or physically, attack someone else for *unknowingly* violating a boundary? This is a theoretical situation, but it presents good opportunity to bring to light universal values.

If someone lacks all empathic capability, they are deemed ill, and massively mentally disfigured at that. In other words, there are certain moral tendencies that exist, to some degree, in *every* person (save psychopaths). Some have stronger moral compasses, but they are present in all of us. Values *can* be and *are* learned, but there are also core understandings we have as human beings that we all share.

Here’s the catch: they, with enough perseverance, can be unlearned. This process is becoming easier and easier in the world we find ourselves in, and so it is that you come across those who are willing to trample on others for all kinds of reasons, worst of all for selfish pleasure.

Perhaps the most obvious of the core values is to protect and do no harm to the innocent. Whether or not we wish to believe it, we are all born with an innate desire to protect purity in all its forms. This desire is weakened and deformed throughout life, but it is still a core principle that must be guarded against those who have let it become twisted and faded.

The phenomenon of the frog in the boiling pot describes well the way in which we justify horrific acts of malice toward others, either as a bystander or a the offender, or even as the victim. The point of all this is to say that, regardless of the priorities of the group, or the feelings that are hurt, these core principles *cannot* be violated; I uphold my belief, not because it is my own, but because it is shared deeply within all who write in this thread. Would you stand up in the face of bullying? Racism? I expect at least part of you would want to, and that is the part that desires justice and purity and peace. *Listen* to that voice. It is not easy to face off against a world that is attempting to strip us of conscience. It is a refined process now, and we have to be prepared to fiercely defend what we believe in, no matter what others say or what they’ll do.

This is why I defend in the most meaningless of places. This is why I do not tolerate hatred and blind rage toward anyone, and instead request calm discussion and intellectual progress. I am annoying to many, but if just one man benefits, I believe the cost is well worth it; those who don’t want to listen will move on in a matter of minutes and never look back.

Long story short, I will not leave simply because you find me annoying or superficially hurtful. Once again, I’m sorry if I truly hurt you; that was never my intent, but I will not be swayed to ignore *our* core principles. No one else stands up for them, so I will. I will speak up no matter who laughs, or jeers, or hates. They will always come to point fingers, but soon they will find that the are pointing at the parts of themselves they cannot bear.

I want to emphasize that I do not claim to be infallible in the slightest sense, nor do I hold any sort of self-righteous attitude toward you or anyone else. I see it for what it is: a group full of hurt and pain that neglects to defend those who cannot defend themselves. The desire for peace is ultimately a universal one, tainted by various shortcomings of the world. Don’t let that dictate the rest of life for us.

@DarthSlobbius literally everything you've said is strongly attempting to impose your moral framework upon others. "Speaking up about it" is exactly that. Don't disguise it as some sort of chivalrous act.

Perhaps YOUR efforts would better be spent on things that actually do harm. I don't know, not a fuckin comment section on YouTube? 😂😂

@Sashi Yes, but I meant a as a matter of MY individual morality. In other words, I’m not trying to impose MY moral framework on to anyone else, but to ensure that they are truly seeing theirs. That could have been said clearer on my part, sorry.

Once again, it is not a matter of hurt feelings, but rather the intent to harm or to steal in general. These are things that must stop, and, as petty as it may seek, I will speak up about it. I know there are many people who are discouraged and wish to simply overlook behavior like this. They tend to not like people like me, but I will not “get off the damn internet” just because you are guilty of quite the same thing as me in your own way-you are “wasting your time” searching and making mountains out of molehills, if you will-and appear to be unable to handle the conflicting it brings. I’m sorry if I offended you with anything I said, but in truth what I say is among the least harmful in most commenting sections. If you’re going to insist someone leave, perhaps your actions would be better suited against one that causes harm, not a petty “pretentious” fool like me.

Also, for the record, this is not a pretentious act. I’ve always been rather philosophical and morally driven, and to those with a high tolerance for injustice and pain in general I appear to be highly sensitive. I think perhaps they are right, in a world quickly losing conscience, if I must.

@Someone nobody cares if it’s annoying to you

@Someone nobody cares if it’s annoying to you

@MY NAMA CHEF it is irrelevant what I personally believe to be right or wrong, but as a matter of individual morality. I intend this as a matter of principle, not of hurt feelings.

@DarthSlobbius if your definition of ill intent is stealing a witty youtube comment then I think this conversation is over

@:D authority figures often have the highest noticeability when it comes to injustice, but racism and all other forms of prejudice are everywhere, not only, and perhaps not even as focused as we think, in cops. I am fully against prejudice and racism, and have often struggled to find peace with the idea of corruption in authority figures, but we also have to remember that from cop to cop, entire lives, and with them, motives, are passing by. Some people go into it with a drive for power. These are most likely to be in the positions you are referring to. Others, however, seek true justice. This is the proper motive to seek a job like this, and it is hugely important that we remember that there are still good-hearted guardians in a world often dominated by corruption and hatred.

@MY NAMA CHEF it is the internet; you’re not wrong.

HOWEVER, the act of calling out ill-intent where it lies is one of the things that keeps the world spinning. If we suck up everything-even the little things-and allow the tolerance to grow, eventually it will lead to the destruction of self and others. I don’t intend to antagonize, and I don’t agree with calling someone out for the sake of hurting them, but tolerance under the guise of expected “crime” is not a good habit; we shouldn’t look away to harm on the internet just because it’s the internet and people get harmed. It’s a vicious cycle and leads to destruction.

@irfn_raziqq no one did, im not blind thank you

@irfn_raziqq no one did, im not blind thank you

@optify y are everybody in this comment blind, i said myself about other things, not this

@optify y are everybody in this comment blind, i said myself about other things, not this

I don’t think it was that way because he seems quite courteous and he probably did forget to review a phone like I’d imagine I would

@Riyana Gupta wonderful but i don't see anybody asked

@Riyana Gupta wonderful but i don't see anybody asked

@John Williams  I know I just don't want to give away my exact location

@John Williams  I know I just don't want to give away my exact location

@John Williams sometimes people move to different places than they were from originally.

@John Williams sometimes people move to different places than they were from originally.

@Mikavian F Southern English is way too vague. English accents vary by town or area.

@Mikavian F Southern English is way too vague. English accents vary by town or area.

@John Williams I'm pretty sure that's a southern English accent, as a southern English person

@Steve Dice then the found a very very tall Mexican then arrested him

@Steve Dice then the found a very very tall Mexican then arrested him

@Sandra Swan it's funny how he said "it's ALMOST word for word "  and not
Verbatim!
 Plus, out of 57k comments
it was bound too happen that some comments would be similar.  FFS!

Maybe the original witness report was of a short white man that can shapeshift into a tall black man at will. I don't know man, lol.

@The Armchair Journalist oh, you’re not OP. I just meant they are Australian with the ‘Skippy’ remark ✌🏻

@The Armchair Journalist  oh I know, that’s what I meant - you’re Australian ☺

@The Armchair Journalist  oh I know, that’s what I meant - you’re Australian ☺

@The Armchair Journalist Sounds more Australian to me.

@The Armchair Journalist Sounds more Australian to me.

@Maya M I’m Australian, the cop is British, not a Aussie 🤣

@Maya M I’m Australian, the cop is British, not a Aussie 🤣

@John Williams he has a British accent 🤣

@John Williams he has a British accent 🤣

@Someone its just a common x: something y: something else format and unoriginality

@Someone its just a common x: something y: something else format and unoriginality

@Steve Dice Yea, they found a taller an darker man :)

@Steve Dice Yea, they found a taller an darker man :)

@Someone 57k comments and millions of views with everyone saying similar things its hound to jappen

@Riyana Gupta people dont put copyright strikes on comments. Literally doesnt matter if its copied or not

@Someone Not everybody has comment xray eyes that can detect if their comment is already writen or not.

@Taylor Griffith that is you're very answer

@Taylor Griffith that is you're very answer

@Taylor Griffith why dont u look further in the comments?

@Taylor Griffith why dont u look further in the comments?

@Riyana Gupta okay but this isn't a thread about artwork or music or any of that, people were arguing over comments being the same. Why do you feel the need to make yourself look ignorant? And annoying? Like what need do you have to be like that?

@Riyana Gupta what are you going to get rich off of YouTube comment now? Give me a break and go cry about something that matters daaaamn

@Riyana Gupta I think it's because the person's name is "someone"

@Riyana Gupta I think it's because the person's name is "someone"

@Alessio Cece honestly i can't tell what my man;'s race is.

@Alessio Cece honestly i can't tell what my man;'s race is.

Except that its an asian in this Video/case!

Except that its an asian in this Video/case!

@Sandra Swan you mean the subject matters? 🤔 (Racial profiling?!)

@Sandra Swan you mean the subject matters? 🤔 (Racial profiling?!)

Always some idiot playing “comment cop” making sure NO COMMENT STEALING ALLOWED!!!

Always some idiot playing “comment cop” making sure NO COMMENT STEALING ALLOWED!!!

Exactly! And as far as the know, is this the same person they were chasing! I am so angry!!!!!!!!

@Riyana Gupta Lmao, I'm sorry I was talking to the guy above you. Clicked you by accident.

@Riyana Gupta Lmao, I'm sorry I was talking to the guy above you. Clicked you by accident.

And why does the Canadian cop have an Australian accent?

And why does the Canadian cop have an Australian accent?

@MY NAMA CHEF i mean it could be a coincidence. And im not talking about this comment because that would be tedious. Everybody is thinking the same thing anyway. Im just talking overall, like if someone copies something someone worked hard on thats a problem. Not talking about a dumb yt comment. Thats what im talking about, and whoever copies something from someone should know who made it because they copied from them, so maybe you're brain is not working today.

@Default Name bro, me have no idea what you are talking about

@Default Name bro, me have no idea what you are talking about

They actually let him go because they found a taller black man.

They actually let him go because they found a taller black man.

@Riyana Gupta Missed the chance to say Someone cares referring to the guy above

@Riyana Gupta Missed the chance to say Someone cares referring to the guy above

@Riyana Gupta its the internet. You gonna track down every person that pirates a game, detective?

@MY NAMA CHEF i care, im okay if someone copies, but if they don't say who it was who wrote it first, then we got a problem.

@Sandra Swan Copied and “everyone is talking about the same thing” is different. This is almost word for word from the other comment. This is <i>annoying</i>

@Sandra Swan Copied and “everyone is talking about the same thing” is different. This is almost word for word from the other comment. This is _annoying_

@Someone everybody is talking about the same thing here. It doesn't matter

@Someone everybody is talking about the same thing here. It doesn't matter


That so called “detective” should be fired.. not suspended.

@Nick Allen They were all arrested and imprisoned. This incident happened in 2003.

@TheFireBall 321 cops do use that logic, one told me when she pulled me over for going 5 miles over the speed limit.

@TheFireBall 321 as others have pointed out the problem is they arrested this man based on the color of his skin. It's really hard to explain why multiple officers believe a tall black man is somehow the same as a short white man that an eye witness saw. They didnt investigate his alibi and ignored the clearly contradictory evidence in favor of their personal opinion. That is one and done and there should never be a second chance for a cop that ignores justice and evidence in pursuit of personal opinion.

Could agree more.  What an awful person.

Could agree more.  What an awful person.

This incident happened in 2003. Every officer involved in this injustice has been imprisoned since then.

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The fact that he got demoted is a shame I'm sure made him wish he got fired<br>That's so embarrassing

The fact that he got demoted is a shame I'm sure made him wish he got fired
That's so embarrassing

@TheFireBall 321 they shouldn’t be able to is the point

@TheFireBall 321 not to mention he didn’t have the solid evidence he claimed he had to even hold him over night. He doesn’t even fit the description, this goes beyond one officer and really shows how racist the entire system is. Over 8 police officers made the decision to arrest, interrogate, and hold this man solely bc he fit their idea of a criminal, not off of evidence. They all deserved to have consequences, and the detective is definitely more responsible for what this man went through, but it’s clear from his arrest to his release that this is a systemic issue, not an isolated one.

@TheFireBall 321 cops aren’t allowed to tell blatant lies (ie “we have video evidence of you”) to get a confession. They can lie about a lot of things but not about specific evidence like this detective does here.

@TheFireBall 321 we should they are officers of the law they should have zero room for error these are peoples lives at risk here

Look kid, being an investigator is a super hard and with there being a lot of different situations where you are interrogating a human. Humans are unpredictable, a human  that looks innocent may be a serial killer and so the police have to make drastic decisions. So I think it’s a double edged sword where people can be wrongfully convicted, you can even get the right person. Sometimes the cops can do wrong things

@Extra what does that have anything to do with what i said??

@TheFireBall 321 Hol' up, do you understand that somebody's life is permanently altered if they get caught arrested? The amount of damage that could be done is insane, imagine lives that could've been essentially wasted.

He's a real scumbag. He was so embarassed about being called on his bluff that he just wanted to put him in a cell.

@spider do tell what you expect his reaction would be. Like the 2nd innocent guy who was an extrovert?

At best he is incompetent, at worst he is discriminating/racist

@spider congrats to figuring out what an introvert is. no shit hes not acting like an extrovert.

@Beer can Dan thats to sentence someone, cops are allowed to lie to further the investigation

@TheFireBall 321 no there’s no room to assume in the legal system. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that somebody is guilty, putting peoples lives on hold,because the detective can pull fake “evidence” out of his ass is bullshit.

@_ThugNinjaSupreme _ I'm happy to hear that, i dont care about people who will ruin a mans life without a second thought

he was acting very weirdly for a inocant person tho

Funny thing is, being demoted from detective is pretty much being fired from being a detective

“We have investigated ourselves and found we have done nothing wrong”

@C00kii0 sure i bet he has done it more than this one time, cant hold that against him, we aren’t 100% sure, just guessing based of what they did this time

@TheFireBall 321 The fact that he's interrupting peoples lives from negligence it's a safe bet it's not the first time he's done so. suspension without pay to investigate previous work and then fire him if it's found this isn't an individual incident.

@Beer can Dan but you cant just assume someone is doing something

@TheFireBall 321 there should be no room for shit like this in the justice system. Losing your job because you’re negligent is different than a court room setting.

Exactly,  should be one and done. This is just a time that they got caught doing something shitty, imagine all the things we don't see.


the officers voice kinda pisses me off but mostly cuz im biased against him


Kandy don't have no "valuable items" lmaooo


I wouldn’t talk to the cops about the weather - why are you speaking?!?!?


the worst part is that many falsely accused have to sign a document saying that they can’t sue for false imprisonment before they are released.


whoever didn't tell Justin about his right to an attorney should be JAILED. There is no way one can forget to say that.

@GoogleGilbertLevinMars anything you say after that they can’t even use lmao

@Koolaid Man Dude, your allowed to lie to police 5th amendment, unless they grand jury you they can't make you tell the truth. Even then they can't make you say anything anyway bro. Stay safe.

@Mark Dlugosz I'm curious about the whole "I want to speak to an attorney" thing in Canada. In America, if you tell the cops you want an attorney, they have to stop the questioning, because anything obtained between then and when the attorney arrives, is considered poisonous to the case. Michael said "if this is.... I think I need an attorney, I want an attorney", and then the prick continued to talk over Michael, and continue to lie to Michael. Shouldn't that be illegal in CA too?

@The Dude exactly had I known that back then things would’ve been a lot different for me and my family

@Kailynn Carrasco If you were a minor, the officers were especially obligated to have read you your rights. They had to even if they didn't intend on  questioning you. Disgrace to the uniform.

I’ve been arrested and not read my rights, but at that age I didn’t even know I had rights to begin with so looking back smh

@sirdrum it’s taught it civics, which is required to graduate.

@GoogleGilbertLevinMars  if you had been arrested you could have that appealed because of the Supreme Court ruling in Gideon v. Wainwright

@jammi LMAO what are you talking about!? The wording may vary state by state. But in the United States, no matter what state you live in LEOs are obligated by the Constitution to read you you're Miranda rights before questioning ensues.

He was read his rights earlier and when they came in they said remember what we told you earlier.

@jammi they can say it a different way, but you NEED to tell them they have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney, anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law, etc.

Depends on the state. Some have to tell the suspect their rights, others do not. It's called Miranda warning.

@MrDavo511 you can only get off if they NEVER give you your Miranda rights, doesn't have to be at time of arrest.

Pretty messed up, but I don't think they need to in Canada.

@sirdrum My high school had a Legal Studies class that was optional but recommended -- I learned about my rights as a minor and then also once I turn 18. I learned that I do not need to consent to a search of my vehicle. I learned that police are allowed to lie to me but I am not allowed to lie to them. Every kid should take this class!

This should be teached in high-school lol

@GoogleGilbertLevinMars you can literally get off when they don’t say that.

@GoogleGilbertLevinMars bro that’s illegal, like, constitutionally illegal 😭

Dunno when I had investigators come to me not a single one said I had a right to an attorney and remain silent etc


Does anyone know what happened to this idiot of a detective? Is he still working???


Couldnt it also be a racial difference between the two, contributing to his 'unique' calm composure, seemingly hes logical and / point being, trained to be more patient with authorities in hopes his innocence will be better conveyed.

Also note the supposed evidence difference between both cases impacts the victims response

While on the other hand, the frustration and defensiveness can be also highlighted due to his past, obviously, and the emotional connection, again obviously, but also the connection where he was actively avoiding drama in his life which hense became unavoidable. Very frustrating with the lack of feeling control not just within the room.


Shit IS THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT he was in county for two years fightin a case…time you cant get back and they just “sorry we made a mistake”


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"How can you prove to me that you were at home?"

He doesn't have to. You're the investigator. It's your job to collect and show evidence that the accused was at the scene. The burden of proof is always on the individual making the accusation.

@fedos and he went to jail for 2 years before being found not guilty

@Sara Samaletdin he had an alibi. He told them to call his mother and they played him off as if he was just some other liar they'd seen before.

That’s exactly what I thought too. You should never have to prove you didn’t do something wrong. Any thought otherwise is a grave perversion on our justice system.

@Logan Liberty Nearly all police interviewers believe they are above that principle.

@Sara Samaletdin Prior record isn't cause for reasonable suspicion. A prior record is only useful for giving the police officer an idea on how to approach a person. Secondly, innocent until proven guilty isn't something that only applies to court, it is the standard and the basic relationship between an individual and the government.

@Sara Samaletdin you shouldnt say diddly squat without a lawyer present. Ever. It won't and can't help you.

@Sara Samaletdin they can't hold you forever without serious evidence. Not having alibi is not one of them.

@Sara Samaletdin so you the type of person who talks to police without lawyer

@Jam Eugh, I hate that "well who did it then?" the fuck am I suppose to know? You're the detective, so detect!

Also how are you even going to prove that unless your have surveilance in your house?

@Sara Samaletdin Except that the cop had no intention of checking his alibi.

I wish people in arguments understood that. Too many people saying "Tell me who did it then" like how would I know I'm claiming I wasn't there!

@Sara Samaletdin don't provide an alibi have a lawyer provide an alibi for you. Never talk to cops

@ramses bams you find proof that he was somewhere else

@ramses bams By proving he was at the crime scene. If they can't place him there it's pretty useless.

In the European Union, they can only retain you 24 hours or put you in the disposition of a judge. If you are detained for identification, it is 6 hours, but they do not have to take you back to the detention place, just release you.

He already had an alibi, known as the truth that he was at home. Once he said that it’s on them to get the mother to confirm it then find evidence to place him at the crime scene or find the person that was really there.

that was my first though. ugh, this is so frustrating to watch

Yes, but an alibi is always advantageous to the innocent.

He doesn’t have to but if he could have provided an alibi it would help with the release. <br>Police and court aren’t the same thing. It’s in court where there is assumption of innocence but police can held you with there reasons they had. Which were the criminal record and a witness.

He doesn’t have to but if he could have provided an alibi it would help with the release.
Police and court aren’t the same thing. It’s in court where there is assumption of innocence but police can held you with there reasons they had. Which were the criminal record and a witness.


This guy looks like the guy who broke into eminems house lmao


At least these guys weren't accused of sexual assault by women; their lives would've been over, no question


Hmm I wonder why certain communities don't trust the police....


This has been so infuriating to watch and I can't imagine ever being in this surreal situation. I understand that there's a method to interrogations and detectives have a job to do. But, damn, is this hard to watch without grinding my teeth.

@JordDaLord 5 That's not entirely true friend... Body language is not hard proof. Some people are extremely good liars, and some people are extremely nervous by nature

PLEASE do NOT think that that detective is following correct procedure. He should be able to detect certain body language to have an idea that he is innocent. People review the footage (of course), but the detective is meant to look for innocent / guilty body language in the moment


Man made 46 k in 3 days. I know that’s not the point but damn


Are the cops allowed to lie and provide false information like they did him?


The fact that an investigator can get a raise for getting someone to confess to a crime they didn’t do is honestly appalling to me, this is part of the reason why the justice system is corrupt.

They need to put cops in general population in prison, instead of rewarding them when they commit a crime.

its a legal system not a justice system xd

@The Orange Wizard oh, I didn’t know that but it is still pretty bad. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

They get an award if they can do it without evidence, not if they didn’t do the crime. Both are bad because the former encourages them to always assume guilty until proven innocent.

@TheOneThatHungers they didn’t but the narrator said that an investigator getting someone to confess to a crime they didn’t do can get a raise

Which investigator got a raise by forcing a false confession?


My dad went through the exact same thing, however because he is Autistic and a Pastor was found guilty because of how different he was. The prosecution and police found it really easy to create a narrative that the jury bought into from the beginning because of this.

Now we have to hope he survives four years in prison after this ordeal has given him a stroke, muscular atrophy, and now he can’t swallow anything either.

The system is corrupt and completely against you if you don’t fit society’s norms, as it’s easier to see someone different as bad than it is to see them for who they actually are. Plus all these prosecutors and police have massive egos and can’t stand the thought of being wrong.

how do you know that he's falsely accused

this same thing is happening to a youtuber named "catterpillar" =.     he is being charged for exposing a child predator.

I'm 22 yrs old & have Autism. I've served over 730 days of custody in a supermax jail (not consecutively; been put in a total of 8 times) not to mention that at least 3/4 of the time I was actually out, I was on strict house arrest conditions. I was just recently found not guilty on all counts of the 5 false statements that were made against me. There was absolutely zero evidence against me personally - only totally unrelated circumstantial crap... Supposedly the police (at least here in Canada) only need to be 51% sure that the statement made COULD HAVE ANY POSSIBLE CHANCE OF BEING TRUE to make an arrest

I have a good friend who is a lawyer and tells me every day men are being accused of sex crimes by revengeful females. Also many times these type of woman convince their children that an ex boyfriend has sexually assaulted them. He said the police will find you guilty until proven innocent. Not only is this is terrible accusation against anyone who is completely innocent it also becomes a huge financial strain. If it goes to court and even if it obvious the person is innocent also found innocent the woman in court is found to be lying she will walk out of court not losing one dollar and they call this justice.

@Christine Cannibal He was falsely accused of a number of sexual crimes, the number continued to increase as she came up with other stories.

What does being a pastor have to do with “being different”? If anything, that would strengthen his innocence.

@Christine Cannibal He said he's a pastor.

@Darren J it could be literally anything?

What did they falsely accuse him of ? I'm so sorry for your father and I hope he makes it through ❤

I'm so sorry he's going through that. I know it's cliche but I'm praying for him and your family. Hopefully he gets out sooner


That is my biggest fear. Being accused and found guilty of a crime I had nothing to do with. You hear about those people that had done 20 or more years in prison before being freed because they were indeed innocent. Yeah, they may get paid but what about the life you lost while in prison. Your parents could pass away, and you can't be there with them. Your children grow up without you. Your wife husband or whatever leaves you. I mean money can't bring any of that back. The police are not your friends and if you are without the means for a great legal counsel then it's basically a 70/30 shot that you are screwed. The 30 being in your favor. For some reason police detectives choose to swing a case their way even if it is not totally true therefore binding up some poor innocent person. NEVER talk to the police!! ALWAYS LAWYER UP!!!! Even though you have an over whelming urge to tell them everything because you are innocent. WHAT YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE SWITCHED AROUND TO BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW. Is really what they should say.


The way he was trying so hard to get him was pathetic. I love the fact that he was awarded money. I have always said that if you are in prison for a crime and end up being found innocent They should be legally required to compensate you financially for that.

Right, it should be at least $10k/day you’re in custody… And it should come out of the Police Department’s funds. And out of the specific officer’s if it’s proven that missteps were to be strictly by him.

$40k dollars is not enough for the bullshit he had to go through


He is one of the smartest and calmest people I’ve seen. I have so much respect for this guy


Love that ending. Can’t believe that detective didn’t immediately Investigate the man’s alibi. Evil behavior to keep an innocent man locked in jail for 3.5 days like that….


It's scary to hear that investigators will try to get a confession out of you because it's good for their career. People with low self esteem and ppl that are easily being manipulated could really end up in prison without being guilty. ;(


Loving this channel. First thing u learning law enforcement is that witnesses are notoriously unreliable. Also ur not there only to prove guilt, but possible innocence. U must investigate both guilt of innocence


Got a settlement, and all parties responsible were demoted.. I'm glad accountability kicked in on this one. Sir.. You have a better temper than I would have. I hope life has treated you well after this.


If being questioned by police for any reason, always have a lawyer. Or at the very least know that they will say or do anything to make you confess even if you didn’t do it. The fact that we consider conduct like that constitutional is beyond me


it's not a simple case of innocent vs guilty.  The issue is when the authorities know you are guilty because they believe you are guilty without actual definitive proof.  NEVER EVER help the authorities by talking to them without an attorney, especially if the authorities are controlling your environment.  Michael was told he was under arrest but still wanted to help the authorities by answering questions.  Justin was arrested and had handcuffs on, but still wanted to answer questions.  If someone is controlling your environment (e.g. restraints, tiny room, two way mirror, etc), they are no longer your friend regardless of if you are innocent or not.


It absolutely scares and appals me how investigators get rewarded and promoted for getting innocent people in jail, after coercing them using lies and bluff into confessing to something they didn't do while there is no evidence to prove their guilt. And the investigator talking to the first guy, doing just that, dares to talk about how truth is paramount and he's got nothing to gain by falsely accusing him. I wonder how he doesn't get struck by a lightning out of a clear blue sky.


13:50 "I'd like a lawyer then." "No, you're already guilty."
"Did you talk to the bus driver or the people on the bus?" "Not my responsibility. Have fun in jail."

Ummm that doesn't seem right.


I am so glad to hear that justice was finally served and he was compensated for that disgusting treatment!


Situations like this are why you ALWAYS get a lawyer. Even if it's a public defender and of its just routine questioning because nothing is routine with the police.


After having watched quite a few interrogation videos, I think I'd be locked up for good if I was arrested for something I didn't do. I'd just be numb and bewildered by the situation trying to wrap my mind around wtf is happening. I wouldn't freak out as the bearded guy in this video. To me, all these techniques and telling 'signs' of someone being guilty are soooo shaky, fishy.

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I think one of the issues that we have with our justice system is the fact that it hasn’t kept up with the times. If they have video footage showing a particular person supposedly in a particular place what is the harm in showing it to the person that they’re accusing of the crime. In this instance the gentleman keeps insisting that he wasn’t there and that there’s no way that the video footage is going to show him at this place that he supposedly robbed.


I like how the narrator went into details about how that first guy was mentally belittling that detective 😂😂


For anyone who has the knowledge to answer this,

Was the cop allowed to claim that there were video evidence along the with multiple witnesses despite not having any information on the case? On top of having no evidence, to claim charges on the victim in order to scare him to say something? Is there no rules as long as the victim isn’t injured and a confession is made?


I've spent my whole life around law enforcement and I've been interviewed ALOT of times and trust me when I say they do this shit alot this doesn't surprise me at a all

What would you advise a person who goes through this? Stay silent? Answer questions? Get emotional?


I mean, every time I see these kinds of "fine officers" at work I start understanding the unrest. The temptation to punch that first "average KKK enjoyer" right in the kisser might be too much for me. And then I'd actually be in prison because this racist is safe from persecution.

Cops should not be above the law, why this isn't commonly understood in a lot of countries is baffling. Where I come from, the police are a lot better but not without fault. However, when this kind of abuse happens it usually ends in termination of employment and fines for the officers. But even then, it is not a matter of trust to get a lawyer, it's a matter of common sense, at least if you can afford it. Not anywhere would I go into a questioning without legal advice because my freedom is dear to me.


How can cops expect anyone to trust them when they are always lieing trying to get someone to incriminate themselves?


I hope these quote on quote "Detectives" learned a thing or two from their mistakes and actually do a more thorough investigation, and actually listen to the caller's descriptions and  read the emotions of the suspect, hence why I think if they were to watch a video like this about the emotions of the innocent they would know what an innocent citizen looks like


Police, prosecutors and judges should be held to account and get the same jail time as the victim of police persecution.


Demoted and suspended without pay, that is justice


Another terrible part of being wrongfully accused is in prison they’d be like “What you do” and he’d be like “I DIDNT DO ANYTHING!!!!” And they’d be like “Sure bud…”


Thank god someone checked this man's alibi people can't just go on the way people act we are all different I've been in this situation and spent 2 days in police cell then 7 days in prison had a big write up in local press then prosecutor released me didn't even get an apology never mind 50 grand


If getting a confession without evidence is a way to promotion, then what this investigator did should lead to termination.


Wow that man has more class than anyone I’ve ever seen !!shame on the police this poor guy


I'm so happy that the officers and investigators were demoted and suspended. They deserved that and more.


I'm happy that that investigator and everybody involved got what they deserved


Perhaps the reason he is being so calm, composed and trying to be helpful, is just because he is a good man and has nothing to hide. But in fact you could also take into account his upbringing and knowledge of how bad and quickly things can go wrong when someone who is not Caucasian, can be treated when any level of resistance is given to any authorities in this or any supposed innocent situation.


Wow, how can you fuck up that badly? I happy for the guy at least getting some compensation for being put in jail for nothing. Would have been great to see the video footage that's supposed to show the accused if it even existed.


Also, just to give some insight. The accused man, Michael, may have acted this way due to repeated prolonged childhood abuse. When one accuses an innocent person who has been abused, often they don't react in the same way. That is what the Narrator was referring to.  Just my perspective.

Or could just have good control over himself. Just because you feel emotions doesn't mean you have to indulge them and let them show in your demeanor.

For example, I sincerely hate half of my coworkers but because I want to be professional I don't let it influence my treatment of them at work. I bet the majority of them don't even know I dislike them because I never act on it or let it show externally. And that's a skill almost anyone can develop if they try.

He could be completely enraged or extremely annoyed or even fearful, but just not letting it show and remaining reasonable and complaint outwardly.


The first guy took me about 5 seconds of him talking and I could tell he was innocent and I’m no professional.


"I can assure you that I'll investigate this thouroughly" says the jackass that didn't look into anything. It's terrible that this is really how it is & I've said a million times that the cops aren't any help until after the fact. Smdh. That man has more patience in his pinky toe than I have in my entire body!!


Infuriating that law enforcement are incentivized to ruin people’s lives regardless of innocence or guilt.


never answere their questions without having a lawyer present - who will advise you to say nothing! Everything you can say to EXONERATE yourself can be said in court, on record. Otherwise it can and will be discounted or rejected as hearsay.


That first cop is about as unprofessional an investigator as u could possibly get. There is loads of Evidence to show who the suspect is and he obviously has not checked one single bit of it which would absolutely exonerate the wrong suspect


If I was any of these dudes I’d be screaming at them for wasting my time and the fact I’d have to pay for a decent lawyer


cops like that should be charged. and cops that wrongfully imprison someone should lose their badge.  you're souly responsible for someones life and future and your bad police work changes someones life forever.


He was calm not only due to character but because he has some faith/trust in the police. He knows he didn't do it so he feels (wrongly) safe.  This goes to show his naivety/ lack of experience, having never dealt with police before.


I am Happy for the guy..kudos for remaining calm through the Whole time..dispicable behavior of the investigator..


honestly he was immensly responsive and genuine and reasonable the most playing against him was sadly his race not being white


Wow this “suspect” was amazing. Love this guy.


the way justin reacta is the EXACT same thing i do when someone accuses me of things i didn't do.


14:16 "The truth is paramount" - The lying ass detective who's just trying to get a confession out of an innocent man.


Thank god that they were suspended, it must be super terrifying to be falsely accused


11:31 I'm not sure if I agree with that analogy , Both of these suspects have different backgrounds in dealing with the criminal justice system lifestyle and would likely act different when being accused ? 16:10 I would have told him if he was doing his job then i wouldn't be sitting here and im going to sue for the lies and false arrest, maybe even could have been a race issue , it's possible with his English accent, I could see it, Just glad he was given Justice and those held accountable. I could respect that


i think these interrogation videos need to be reviewed by their own departments to find the dumbest Detective's and fire them immediately
there was no reason that man was in that interrogation room to begin with
not to mention the bullshit lies he made up i get that you have to pry for info but constantly lying about the situation isn't doing your job
this man should of been disowned by his department


I bee n there. I did 18 months fighting an attempt murder. This shit hurts my soul


If someone's passionately moving their hands along with their phrases then they are most likely telling the truth


The wierdest thing about criminal psychology imo is I find that if the suspect is being confident, he's guilty for sure, and if he's nervous, he's definitely guilty as well. Then what's a sign to show he's not guilty or at least leaning to that side?

Dont ever become a detective, you will be like these detectives.

"being confident, he's guilty for sure, and if he's nervous, he's definitely guilty as well"

False statement. If your understanding is so childishly superficial and black/white with absolutely no nuance then please stay away from this as a career.

It's all about the specific situation it seems, you can't just umbrella statement to certain behaviors because some unnatural behaviors are natural to others, it's why you need to be extremely read up, educated and practiced in the role before you can make any sort of real judgement. That's not even counting for conditions like ADHD or autism that could affect behavior, essentially there is no clear sign and that's why you have to really make sure you're taking it on by a case by case basis.


And then you wonder why people have no faith in the police anymore. 🙄<br>I hope that guy didn't lose his job.

And then you wonder why people have no faith in the police anymore. 🙄
I hope that guy didn't lose his job.


In the Canadian case Micheal said he wanted a lawyer. I don't know Canadian law but in the US the police must immediately stop asking questions once you say those magic words. They are not allowed to question you to find out if that was what you really meant, STOP! And they have this on video!


2 years? That's a lot of time taken away from anyone. Those cops should be jailed.


I understand that they demoted and suspended but Ik this isn’t one of those jobs you can fail this isn’t forgetting somebody’s apple pie this is traumatizing and ruining somebody’s life  this far from protect and serve


The officer: I have you on video commuting the act

Also him: Asking him if he did it


"we'll be putting you in a larger custody facility"<br>"Thanks i guess"

"we'll be putting you in a larger custody facility"
"Thanks i guess"


Detective: We’re taking you into custody for robbery.

Michael: Thank you sir. Can I notify my boss? I have work in the morning.


I don’t understand how the police across the pond can blatantly lie about evidence during interviews, how they can assume guilt and not allow the suspect to give a first account, and how often they are seen to be interviewing suspects without giving them access to legal advice prior to interview.


Grande coisa, oriloki resumiu tudo isso em 10 segundos 2 anos antes de você


British cops for ya!!! Nice to see they're taking their excellent interviewing tactics on a world tour. ... god help everyone!


9:37 “How can you prove to me that you were at home”
Got this the wrong way around buddy. You’re supposed to prove he did it.
lmfao


I think race also plays a role in how he is presenting himself. He knows that any non-cooperation or aggression/anger, perceived or otherwise, is unfortunately going to be treated much less favorably by the police when coming from a black man than if it had come from a white man.

@Ivo Lawso he was at least quarter Asian, or might of had an Amish uncle.

Yeah, race got nothing to do with it. If it does ever, these people need fired immediately.

Not to mention the bearded guy was way more threatening looking than the bald dude. I think most people would be more threatened by the big dude with an aggressive posture.

The dude interacting him wasn’t white. Dude might have just had an agreeable disposition. Not everything is about race


What kind of police force can charge anyone without first collecting all the evidence and putting that to the suspect in order to prove or disprove innocence or guilt


Bro the second guy almost made me cry man you hear how sad and frustrated he is


Really hope that cop never got premonition... ever . He was shocking


When I was 18 I was driving in the back country roads going to a friends house, i drive those roads all the time and no one rides your ass or anything like that bc everyone drives pretty fast even though the speeds listed as 30-35, it was about 11pm at night and i pull onto the back road, and it’s the only road leading unto it for miles and miles, out of no where head lights and a light bar light up behind me and I have black out tint so the guy definitely had his brights on making it hard for me to see, I genuinely thought it was an alien abduction about to happen since it was impossible for someone to catch up to me going like 65-70 on the road and they had to be driving with their lights off to be immediately behind me like that, for a solid 8 minutes this car rides my ass out into the boonies and I take my doubt right turn to my buddies house with the car following me, (it’s a one house road and no one goes down it) I pull into his driveway and park my car leaving it on for like 4 minutes waiting to see what this guy was going to do,(not being 21 all I had was a 1960 ice pick I use for rock climbing in the snow) so I grab it and slowly step out of my car holding the pick out of view inside my car, at least 10 seconds pass of me holding my hand up into the air staring into the light of the car (i still couldn’t see the shape of the vehicle) then I hear “step fully out of your vehicle and put your hands in the air” the dude didn’t put his flashing light on yet so I didn’t budge, I made it clear I wasn’t going to move, then the lights come on and his brights shut off, with his gun in hand he stepped out of his vehicle, I immediately put my hands in the air bc I know cops shoot if the even think you have a rubber band, he tells me to take my wallet out and place it on the hood of my car, he goes into my car takes the key out and tosses it on my seat, I ask him what I did wrong and he says “I need to make sure your not a threat first” I instantly get scared thinking he’s gonna panic and shoot me since my back was turned to him after I placed my wallet on my hood, the cop took my ID and told me to stay put, as he walked back to the car, about 10 minuets pass, he fucking gets out of his car laughing and I still have no idea what’s going on, he tells me he’s sorry for following me so closely but my name “Jacob _____” came back with a multiple felon on the run and he thought it was potentially me and he just starts apologizing over and over while laughing, I wasn’t having it bc I just had a gun pulled on me and I ask him why he didn’t turn his lights on and tailed me for over 5 minutes while speeding, I was so mad I said “you drove with your lights off, speeded without your lights on and pulled a gun on me” the cop looks at me and says “do you want a ticket? I said “whats your badge number” he starts fucking laughing again and walks to his car and speeds around me doing a u turn to get back onto the main road.. literally the weirdest and scariest thing that’s happened to me and I’ve done a lot of shit

You dont need to blank out Jacob ------<br>Your profile says Roberts 👍

You dont need to blank out Jacob ------
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I'm happy the guy got the $46,000 but demoted and suspended without pay is not enough of a punishment for the cops. they should have been fired and fined if not put in jail. Human garbage like what we see here in this interrogator make me sick!


Are investigators really just allowed to lie to try to get confessions


You must feel like in Kafkas "The Trial". Being forced to prove you are innocent is a complete wrong thing. Horror.


2:20 God bless that detective he is the most progressive person ever, he doesn't see colour nor height


Im so glad that I am living in Austria. Where you are innocent until proven guilty. Which is way more reasonable. Na stuff never makes sense...


I like the end result. It's sad because if that would have happened in America I doubt there would be any suspension of the detectives or civil settlement awarded to the falsely accused.


4:19 when michael showed he was still maintaining eye contact did his body do that or did he do it because he knows the affect it has?


It is insane to me that shouting enraged profanities at police is considered innocent behavior. They'd have to really provoke me to get me to that point because I would want to avoid pissing them off. Especially given how often they get away with beating the shit out of people, albeit that is normally during an arrest, not an interrogation.


Im glad he got a settlement,  but I wonder if that other guy sued those people who framed him.


ok I work as police officer in civilised country in Europe. We operate on fraction of budget of American police. Yet any of this couldn't happen here. If I came with these files as officer to our public prosecutor he would rip ME apart and give me eat those papers to remember I should do my job properly.<br>This is insane......

ok I work as police officer in civilised country in Europe. We operate on fraction of budget of American police. Yet any of this couldn't happen here. If I came with these files as officer to our public prosecutor he would rip ME apart and give me eat those papers to remember I should do my job properly.
This is insane......


The detective sounded more like a salesman trying a hard sell, I suspect he would do well to change jobs, where he can seek that bonus / commission / promotion, without doing "too much harm" to innocent people


you can not imagine the DELIGHT i had when i heard the detective got DEMOTED AND HAD NO PAY! absolutely beautiful

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Me: “yeah why is he being so nice”

16:40

Me: “oh hes a Canadian”


That last seconds had flowers coming out of my ears.


One of those times when being the awkward introvert becomes an advantage. xD


I would probably act like this guy in all honesty and that scares me now watching this.


I tell you what for every day the guy spent in jail gave the detective a week


If they had all the evidence they needed you wouldn't be questioned in the first place. Don't talk to them at all!


listening to what happened to the people responsible for this guys arrest and imprisonment was like an actual victory moment. loved hearing that, glad they got what they deserve for messing up that guys week, hope it hurts for the rest of their lives.


demoted and suspended without pay... wow they got what they deserve.!


bro really said multiple times “whether you did it or not is not why we’re here” like bro what the fuck😂😂


Please find another platform!!  I don’t know what is going on. I also don’t care. I like these videos. I like falling asleep to them.


He stayed calm because he knows he is a 6 foot 3 black man and if he acted out like the other guy they would have pinned him as violent


Many people in all colors and cultures goes thru this Nightmare and sadly many goes to jail without anyone hearing from them.


Demoted only, that is someone's life you dealing with, they should of been thrown in jail and never been allowed to ever work in the justice system again .


I feel like the first cop just wanted to bring someone in


Justice in the end. Imagine how many people werent this lucky.


never talk to the police, never ever.<br>the ending was so satisfying though....

never talk to the police, never ever.
the ending was so satisfying though....


This proves that nothing good can ever come out of you talking to the police.


lol Canadian police... i see what went wrong here. they tried throwing my brother in prison for stuff he didn't do, and they manufacture evidence regularly. its despicable.


tbh this is total bullshit i was in this situation being innocent accused and i didn't reacted like this at all i reacted like all guilty person afraid of what was coming afraid of what they were accusing me and affraid to not being able to proove i'm not guilty finaly the judge saw all of this when i came without lawyers to the judgement day i just talked with my own words and was free without any guilty (and i wasn't guilty )


NO WAY THE OFFICERS GOT SUSPENDED LOOOOOOOOOOOOL


I hope that snake ass investigator is fired or never gets the chance to incriminate someone falsely.


ok i would totally sit in a jail cell for 4 days for 50 grand. seems like a good deal


So how did Michel get away with robbery  when it's all on video


These interrogators aren't just playing mind-games. Their behaviour is actually INDIFFERENT. A character trait of a socio/psychopath. There is a high prevalence within the police. And that first policeman is English. Notice how he spiels off a load of good sounding sh*t. "The truth is paramouth.. "  bla bla bla. Some people KNOW exactly what to say to sound proper, sincere and dutiful. Remember, some police don't care about justice. They care about convictions (or as the narrator notes, promotions/kudos/their ego).   There are THOUSANDS of innocent people rotting away in every country. There are also certain Agencies, DAs & prosecutors who WITHHOLD exculpatory evidence in order to get a conviction. One of them is now the Vice President. Let that sink in!


Its actually innocent until proven guilty


Officer; "If someone else causes to murderer another person does that make me a murderer"?


THE VIDEOS ARE COMING BACK THANK YOU JCSS


Does anyone know if this detective fired for this?


its kinda scary how much it nitpicked about his small body language


"The evidence is conclusive and overwhelming"

mmmmmmmmhmmmmmmm


“there’s 2 things people need to know about J to the R. O. C. ok, i spit more rhymes than a lazy susan, and i’m innocent until my guilt is proven. representing sunnyvale straight the fuck up”


The detective is talking too much about himself what he is gonna do and how hes gonna reveal the truth .obviously has nothing to use but saying shit


What about the guy who spent 2 years in what did he get?


ima am inoccent man being accused of a robbery that occurred in my neighborhood while I was out for work 3 hrs away from that location I have solid evidence that I'm inoccent yet I'm still having trouble with this case I've been stripped from my constitutional right I was never asked inoccent or guilty I was automatically placed as guilty to to a false statement made by one of my neighbors that was trying to get less time in jail for a crime he committed I dosent make sense to me that you just need a statement from a criminal no video evidence or nothing just a statement its stupied


I hope that guy sues the shit out out of that officer. 46k is not enough considering


“this isn’t going away” umm sir you’re wrong


Dude that is so f*<b>***</b> disgusting watching the first Mike guy be told they know he did it when he definitely didn’t!!!!! And I feel really bad for the guy who was wrongfully imprisoned for more then 2 years also!!!! This country and this world SUCK!!!!!!!

Dude that is so f****** disgusting watching the first Mike guy be told they know he did it when he definitely didn’t!!!!! And I feel really bad for the guy who was wrongfully imprisoned for more then 2 years also!!!! This country and this world SUCK!!!!!!!


You got wrong its "innocent until proven guilty "


Police is so disgusting, I hope these poor victims get millions of compensation for their troubles


5 mins into this vid and I’m already pissed


Wrong incentive to give promotions for a confession without showing evidence


This makes my blood boil.  How can these people lie to suspects when they KNOW they don't have evidence?  Shameful and atrocious

@LordMyron09 as the police state has tightened its grip, the public and the 'public servants' (thats what law enforcement is supposed to be) have become more and more comfortable toward locking up innocent people up rather than possibly letting a guilty person go free. The incentive for the government is profit. (Industrial prison complex) when a third of our citizens have a criminal record, clearly our justice system has a flaw. To clarify I'm talking about the usa, you might not be

@Anagram Confirmed Tell that to the dozens of people I've had long-form discussions/arguments with.  ;)

@LordMyron09 nobody reads long ass youtube comment section comments.

@Xebec You also say it's rare, but look up the Innocence Project.  I assure you, you won't find a shortage of cases that involved false confessions that derived from a variety of duplicitous and intimidatory means.  You can say they're a small percentage, but they're nonetheless an unacceptable number given that each one was someone who had their life destroyed over something they never did.  If that's not a reason for outrage, I don't know what is.

@Xebec Glad we can agree on the matter of wrongful confessions.  However, we can talk all we want about what should be done, but it doesn't take much digging to find out what has actually been done by police.  The stories about how police get false confessions and convict people with those alone is atrocious.  We can even see one scenario in the video, where they were practically trying to browbeat the man into confessing something.

I fully agree that the protecting the innocent should be prioritized as much as finding the guilty.  Sadly it would seem, from some of the other opinions others have shared, that a few wrongfully convicted innocents is worth "catching the bad guy" in enough instances.

@Xebec Glad we can agree on the matter of wrongful confessions.  However, we can talk all we want about what *should* be done, but it doesn't take much digging to find out what has *actually* been done by police.  The stories about how police get false confessions and convict people with those alone is atrocious.  We can even see one scenario in the video, where they were practically trying to browbeat the man into confessing something.

I fully agree that the protecting the innocent should be prioritized as much as finding the guilty.  Sadly it would seem, from some of the other opinions others have shared, that a few wrongfully convicted innocents is worth "catching the bad guy" in enough instances.

I feel you brother, evil in the world makes me feel like FUCKING grrrr.... 🤬😤

LordMyron09 But it’s very rare for one who is truly innocent to be put to jail. Idk about you, but even while walking to jail I’d tell that guy I am not the one. I’d scream to his face you’ve got the fukin wrong person. I’m sure any innocent person would too, and if the cops do not have evidence and have a brain, they would see that they are innocent. Gas-lit into falsely confessing, I do agree that that is something disgusting. But it’s still not very smart for them to confess for something they didn’t do, thats like putting yourself to jail for free. If they have evidence, they can arrest you (or ask them to show you their so called evidence) otherwise you shouldn’t be confessing. After a false confession, what the cops should do however is get evidence or talk to them. But again, I don’t know why you would confess, theres no way out of it. The cops should make assurance that the person is guilty and there is no possibility of innocence, which certainly should be done in a situation of gaslighting the person to pick a lesser crime or if one is tired and wants to get out of a situation, im sure its not very hard for the interrogator to tell if thats the case. There’s probably been a lot of guilty people caught by this, murder, robbing, not very smart people and talk to the police thinking it’ll not make them seem guilty or something.

Basically, the process should be improved so it catches the guilty and not the innocent.

Now it's no longer "innocent until proven guilty." Its "guilty until proven innocent."

@Corrado Soprano Jr Sorry to say it, but I reject your main argument on principle.  Destroying innocent people's lives is justifiable if you "get the bad guy"?  But when we see them accusing that man of a crime when he was literally picked up while getting off a bus, the police are FAILING to catch the real suspect, and their insistence that they have evidence of his nonexistent guilt is nothing short of sinister.  If you're ok with calling innocent people being gas-lit into false confession an acceptable loss, then I'd say you've pinpointed a key reason our justice system is broken.  Your disregard for the innocents falling victim to this practice is disturbing, to say the least.

As for those "crazy killer" stories: I've seen a few, and every single one depended on good investigative work and forensics.  Absolutely none of the episodes I watched involved lying to a suspect who didn't know that he could plead the 5th and demand a lawyer.  With the evidence each story described them getting, a confession would be useful, but they had more than enough to bring the suspect to trial without one.

@Xebec Outweighs the disadvantages???  Boy, we definitely do not see eye-to-eye on this.  So, by your logic: someone who is innocent *but doesn't know their right to have a lawyer/plead the 5th*, and is gas-lit into falsely confessing should be deemed an acceptable loss to the system?  You say that it's evil, but also are ok with the practice, because in your own words "there isn’t a whole lot better tactics to use."  Lucky for you, you seem to know what to do if falsely arrested (although your simulated bravado won't do you any favors), but you seem to be forgetting that  the less-informed -- which means a lot of people -- can easily be victimized by this underhanded and frankly disgusting practice.

Additionally, by the words you included in your comment, only the uninformed (*whether guilty or not*) will ever fall for the tactic, since the smart will always keep their mouths shut and wait for legal counsel.  Sad how the "advantages" you mentioned kinda fade away with any type of serious organized criminals with codes of silence, or even just those who know their rights.  You seem to think that putting innocent people behind bars is a necessary evil, as long as it does get some guilty people to confess without evidence, and I find that unfortunate.

@Sounds Nice Since you use a vague hypothetical, I can respond to it with one of my own:

You are picked up by the police, they insist that you have done a crime that you know you didn't do.  The police, however, create this lie that they have video evidence AND eye witness testimony that incriminate you, and a confession will result in a much lighter sentence.  You panic and decide you don't want them to push for a maximum sentence which will result in weeks of tedious and expensive court appearances, so you confess under this understanding that you will get a slap on the wrist, but instead they wave the signed confession in the courtroom and let the prosecutor decide how long they want to put you away for.

Sound outlandish?  Well, watch the "Don't Talk to the Police" video (just search the title and you'll find it), and the lawyer speaking brings up multiple examples of police getting false confessions through lying and not caring they're incarcerating innocent people.

I guess an different way of putting it to directly respond to your question is: no, I would not prefer the outcome you described, IF I also knew those same tactics put INNOCENT people away.  I'm of course arguing from principle, but I would consider it unconscionable to call such a method "justice" when the video itself shows how people who can be sentenced -- for crimes they didn't commit -- because the police used gas lighting tactics on them.  Would YOU be ok with "getting the killer" if that meant that innocent people would be punished for crimes they are not guilty of?

@Corrado Soprano Jr I missinterpretated your comment sorry. It makes sense to lie like that and I think it should be done, but the problem really comes when they dont confess and are still arrested. Arrested because of an evidence that doesnt exist

@Corrado Soprano Jr so lets say someone robbed a bank. Than the police starts accusing the man of murder, knowing he didnt murder anyone just to make him confess the bank assault?

The Police are the largest Gang in the Country!


omg. I'd be so bad as innocent accused person


This triggers me…. I’m just glad the innocent got exonerated.


The fact that they can lie about evidence on that level blew my mind, and I'm glad they got demoted and suspended for that. Great video, I really enjoyed it.

dea B There has been a change of interrogation techniques in Canada, they no longer use the Reid method (which is what you see in the interview here) but they are still allowed to lie about the evidence and other things. It’s a thin ice to walk on though because the judge can very well throw it out in case he/she thinks this put a suspect under duress. <br>I mean, I agree that lying about evidence is and should be perfectly legitimate strategy, you just need to have enough safeguards in place that you’re not extracting a confession under duress, from people with mental illness, etc.

dea B There has been a change of interrogation techniques in Canada, they no longer use the Reid method (which is what you see in the interview here) but they are still allowed to lie about the evidence and other things. It’s a thin ice to walk on though because the judge can very well throw it out in case he/she thinks this put a suspect under duress.
I mean, I agree that lying about evidence is and should be perfectly legitimate strategy, you just need to have enough safeguards in place that you’re not extracting a confession under duress, from people with mental illness, etc.

@Gtpk 35 I thought that was a US law whilst canadian law enforcement are required not to manipulate their way through an interrogation?

I mean it makes sense.  If someone is in fact guilty and they think you have rock solid proof, they will generally start by admitting some association to the crime, albeit trying to mitigate their role.  However, if you tell a dude you have video and witnesses proving he committed a crime and he is still espousing his innocence....he is probably innocent.

Spencer White They didn’t actually. Lying about evidence is perfectly acceptable under the law. The investigators got the punishment for not following procedures and not reviewing the dispatch report. If they did that and still did everything exactly the same, this guy gets nothing and they walk away from this scot free.


Yo can we talk about how Michael absolutely roasted this dude and called him out for being bad at his job all while being as calm as Hannibal Lecter?

@Garrett Stelly aw, it's OK.. thanks for your help

@I27T I84 i'm sorry bro it's not a single time point it's the whole interview

@Terra Gaia in an ideal world, they’d be terminated and stuck working loss prevention at a shitty mall, never to return to law enforcement.

@Terra Gaia he was a calm introverted guy. He probably spent those days reading good books and chilling. And getting paid for it too? Easy money.

@Terra Gaia That was not enough lmao wym

he seems like such a sweeheart! he wanted to use his phone call to let his employer know he wouldn't be able to go to work the next morning and was so collected throughout the situation

@Terra Gaia I would not want to experience this ordeal for that amount of money.

@JDB he doesn't say that verbatim its the entire interview

When exactly does he roast him and say he's bad at his job?

that is why you lawyer up immediately if you are accused of something serious. make the police do their job. you gain nothing by talking to them.

@Terra Gaia think i read it was in canada...not sure though....but wasn't Michael one cool dude

@Lenz C I couldn't necessary agree but yes. You need the reaction of protest and citizen outrage at the scale of George Floyd to see something. Shit like these such as Michael's case are one of the dozen out of millions per year swept under the rug. Michael just got lucky and American police system really needs some overhaul from head to toe.

@Terra Gaia Imho he should have gotten more, and the cops should have been fired...this is unacceptable.

It was pretty embarrassing, but only in retrospect, it could’ve been really sad.

@Terra Gaia Should have gotten 460 thousand in my opinion

And 3 days of captive with fear and frustration in return of 46 thousands. I say he didn't do bad. Oh and several of the investigators got demoted and suspended pay🤣


"Suspect is a small white male"
Police: Apprehend and arrest Shaq

"Suspect is a small white male"
Police: *Apprehend and arrest Shaq*

Dutty Babylon!!!, I an' I expect it fe de beast (but nuh mek it right so)

to be fair I'm kinda surprised they didn't arrest a woman .....

@marT Tram everyone looks small when theyre in your review mirror

seems about right<br>just a dose of daily racism to keep oneself motivated

seems about right
just a dose of daily racism to keep oneself motivated

Made. Me laugh from the  Heart!! Thanks!

Made. Me laugh from the  Heart!! Thanks!

They really really really need to review there recruiting standards.

White, small, thin male
LEO: you want me to arrest ice cube you say

White, small, thin male
LEO: *you want me to arrest ice cube you say*

Was so focused on the investigation and then first comment I saw was this. I'm dead bro

@Kpt.KirkWaffles "he looks small and white, right fellas?"

"Yeah chief, works for me!"

DPD just went out watkh for a last name James first name Le-bron