How you can legally tell a suspect you have evidence when you don't is beyond me. Gaslighting someone like that is inhumane.

How you can legally tell a suspect you have evidence when you don't is beyond me. Gaslighting someone like that is inhumane.

If lying is a crime (bad/"wrong") then how come police can lie (do something bad/wrong) in order to catch someone else who has lied (done something bad/wrong) ?  Kinda invokes the grey area of morality that no one likes to admit exists.  Similarly, those in the armed forces who kill in the name of war are extolled as heroes, but if I were to kill someone who was breaking into my house there would be a whole investigation about whether my actions were "justified."  When it comes to morality it seems that context is everything.  (And lest anyone think i am dissing on the armed forces, I'm not.  I am thankful for them.  I was just making an example. )  The can of worms of capital punishment holds the same paradox – Killing is bad, so we kill to demonstrate that it's bad.  The end result in all these examples is the same: some individuals are not punished for doing things that, if others did them, they would be punished.

@Jacob Parrekar and then you realize we live in america where every state has different laws and what you just said was a complete fabricational lie, an overreaching statement that literally doesn't contain an ounce of truth

why would you lie on the internet?

@Jacob Parrekar and then you realize we live in america where every state has different laws and what you just said was a complete fabricational lie, an overreaching statement that literally doesn't contain an ounce of truth

why would you lie on the internet?

It is absolutly legal for police to lie to suspects.  It's sad, but true.  That's why you don't talk, and assert your right to an attorney.

It is absolutly legal for police to lie to suspects.  It's sad, but true.  That's why you don't talk, and assert your right to an attorney.

If you knew how effective these techniques are at catching <i>actual</i> criminals then you'd retract that. Watch the other videos on this channel, you'll see.

If you knew how effective these techniques are at catching _actual_ criminals then you'd retract that. Watch the other videos on this channel, you'll see.

@Jacob Parrekar i agree that few suspects turns out to be innocent but to get others' confession, it becomes important for them to use these tricks. So they apply the method impartially to all of the suspects. we cannot blame them . But yeah here the way officer is talking is clearly rude

@Jacob Parrekar i agree that few suspects turns out to be innocent but to get others' confession, it becomes important for them to use these tricks. So they apply the method impartially to all of the suspects. we cannot blame them . But yeah here the way officer is talking is clearly rude

It is a interrogation method used by detectives to get the confession from the victims like in the jennifer pan case . But here the officer is really rude and totally being one-sided

It is a interrogation method used by detectives to get the confession from the victims like in the jennifer pan case . But here the officer is really rude and totally being one-sided

it’s an effective tactic of getting people to confess

it’s an effective tactic of getting people to confess

you cant elsewhere, for example here in germany you cant.

you cant elsewhere, for example here in germany you cant.

@Jacob Parrekar Oh bitte my bad. I could've sworn I clicked the right guy. Sorry to ping you like that lmao

@Jacob Parrekar Oh bitte my bad. I could've sworn I clicked the right guy. Sorry to ping you like that lmao

@WordyDird You <i>May</i> have @'d the wrong guy?

@WordyDird You _May_ have @'d the wrong guy?

Happens all the time. Usually it is "your friend confessed that they two of you did it". If you are ever spoken to by police always assume they are bullshitting you.

Happens all the time. Usually it is "your friend confessed that they two of you did it". If you are ever spoken to by police always assume they are bullshitting you.

@Jacob Parrekar and that’s why you never talk to them.

@Jacob Parrekar and that’s why you never talk to them.

not really, if your innocent an they tell you this then it is not negatively effecting you. however if your guilty and you think they know you did it then your more likely to come forward.

not really, if your innocent an they tell you this then it is not negatively effecting you. however if your guilty and you think they know you did it then your more likely to come forward.

Who fuckin care's? Criminals shouldn't be treated with decency.

Who fuckin care's? Criminals shouldn't be treated with decency.

It’s actually not legal in the uk for police to do that.

It’s actually not legal in the uk for police to do that.

@aki Confession is better than any amount of evidence in most cases.

@aki Confession is better than any amount of evidence in most cases.

Well if they didn't do it they would know they had no evidence. Soooo.... I mean... I don't see anything wrong with this

Well if they didn't do it they would know they had no evidence. Soooo.... I mean... I don't see anything wrong with this

@Jacob Parrekar it helps against real criminals

@Jacob Parrekar it helps against real criminals

When being questioned, assume everything they tell you is false. They are absolutely not on your side and are not your friend.

When being questioned, assume everything they tell you is false. They are absolutely not on your side and are not your friend.

@SuperBROKEN81 You need therapy. Please seek professional help.

@SuperBROKEN81 You need therapy. Please seek professional help.

@Myrtle Fishing yikes that probably sounded better in your head

@Myrtle Fishing yikes that probably sounded better in your head

@Ivin3690 I'd rather 10 guilty people go free than see one innocent man behind Bars

@Ivin3690 I'd rather 10 guilty people go free than see one innocent man behind Bars

I don't see you people talk shit about this tactic when it works on a guilty criminal

I don't see you people talk shit about this tactic when it works on a guilty criminal

Cause they can legally lie to you and get you to admit to doing things you never did.

Cause they can legally lie to you and get you to admit to doing things you never did.

It's allowed in third world countries only :)

It's allowed in third world countries only :)

@SuperBROKEN81 It's one of the tactics responsible for many false coinvictions because innocent people falsely admit commiting crimes to reduce sentences out of the sheer desperation cause by this. It's not "effective", as effectiveness means getting criminals convicted, not innocent people. It's the polar opposite of an effective tactic, it's an abusive vehicle to reduce actual police work.

@Christian Elbæk Nope.. in the UK its perfectly legal.. im pretty sure there is a version in EVERY country.. if u have 2 suspects.. the oldest trick in the book is to tell the other perp that his friend has told them everything.. ive seen this done in so many tv shows and documentaries.. in lots of different countries.. so im not sure where u get ur information from.

in most countries it is illeagel i dont understand how the american police can still do thise

in most countries it is illeagel i dont understand how the american police can still do thise

@sheepthehack If a thug smashes my grandma over the head he's going to have to do a lot of digging first.

@sheepthehack If a thug smashes my grandma over the head he's going to have to do a lot of digging first.

@Jacob Parrekar I’m with you on this one. The logic is sound and makes sense for both viewpoints, it’s just sad when an innocent person is convicted for something they didn’t do

@Jacob Parrekar I’m with you on this one. The logic is sound and makes sense for both viewpoints, it’s just sad when an innocent person is convicted for something they didn’t do

@PolySciWhy? <br>Hmm, that’s pretty naive.

In the US, it’s totally legal for police to flat out lie to suspects.  It’s legal, so they do it all the time!

In the US, it’s totally legal for police to flat out lie to suspects.  It’s legal, so they do it all the time!

If its legal then it needs to be legal to use them. I would be so angry if i spent the night in jail cause some hard ass cop lies

If its legal then it needs to be legal to use them. I would be so angry if i spent the night in jail cause some hard ass cop lies

i think this has been. ore helpful than not

i think this has been. ore helpful than not

@Gerhard Mack im well aware that ALLEGEDLY this is the case. But its not this technique of feigning knowledge that is the problem Einstein. Its that they actually act on it with charges. People confess during charges. If they confess before charges, thats stupidity. We are discussing two different worlds.

@PolySciWhy? You have ignored multiple people telling you that this sort of interrogation technique produced false confessions.  Multiple studies back that up.

The Canadian (At least RCMP) and the British both use a question/ confuse /  question approach where they run through your story, go out of their way to distract/ confuse you, then ask the same questions again.  If the person is lying, they forget their story and then the police can pick apart variations between the two stories.

Years ago, they did it to me and at the end, I got completely confused had to pause a moment to recall the details again. I wasn't sure what just happened but I was sure glad I was telling the truth.  I later learned that it was something they were trained to do.

@Gerhard Mack says anonymous guy on internet

@Gerhard Mack says anonymous guy on internet

@PolySciWhy? That's poor interrogation training.   I have seen much more effective techniques in other countries.

@PolySciWhy? That's poor interrogation training.   I have seen much more effective techniques in other countries.

@Jacob Parrekar - pls qualify that - it is legal in the US.

@Jacob Parrekar - pls qualify that - it is legal in the US.

Only in the police state that is the US. Not legal in Europe

Only in the police state that is the US. Not legal in Europe

@SuperBROKEN81 You did a bad thing did time and learned your lesson good for you. However that doesn't mean every cop is an angel and dirty tactics are always good.

@SuperBROKEN81 You did a bad thing did time and learned your lesson good for you. However that doesn't mean every cop is an angel and dirty tactics are always good.

@Sean McDonnell actually dont even need to have confessed for that to happen. The tactic itself is entirely necessary though. Keep watching interrogations JCS Inspired. You will see. Thank god they do this!!!

@Sean McDonnell actually dont even need to have confessed for that to happen. The tactic itself is entirely necessary though. Keep watching interrogations JCS Inspired. You will see. Thank god they do this!!!

@PolySciWhy? Not necessarily, it's very well documented that cops have held their innocent victims in cells for days, weeks, months at a time until a person breaks down and confesses to something they never did. Furthermore, reiterating "why did you do it?" is a tactic to build false evidence for the prosecution in a trial because any answer beyond a simple "No" CAN and WILL be used AGAINST YOU. Investigators, are people too, thus, some are lazy, some are racist, some are egocentric, some are simply there for the pay, etc. I used to think in the same way you do, until i got arrested and learned the hard way, THE TRUTH DOES NOT SET YOU FREE. If you ever end up at the wrong place at the wrong time, just keep your mouth shut like a vault and lawyer up, they already decided you're guilty.

This is why you’re not supposed to answer any questions until a lawyer is present

This is why you’re not supposed to answer any questions until a lawyer is present

Yep. Was told in the past during a false interrogation that they had me on “pin camera”. Which was never true. They must bonus the more people they get to be convicted.

Yep. Was told in the past during a false interrogation that they had me on “pin camera”. Which was never true. They must bonus the more people they get to be convicted.

While it may indeed be effective, so is waterboarding. This video makes me so angry. We seriously need a complete overhaul of our criminal justice system.

While it may indeed be effective, so is waterboarding. This video makes me so angry. We seriously need a complete overhaul of our criminal justice system.

People who give false confessions are either weak minded, poorly educated about the legal system, or both.

It's a valuable tool in the police's toolbelt & you'd be surprised just how many awful people are off the streets because of this tactic. The solution isn't to remove this from the playbook. It's to educate citizens on the process.

Also, it's not gaslighting. This is just lying. Gaslighting involves lying, but they aren't the same thing.

It should be illegal. Its beyond inhumane its insane and i mena that literally, it haplens without sanity, and its beyond any shodaw of reason

It should be illegal. Its beyond inhumane its insane and i mena that literally, it haplens without sanity, and its beyond any shodaw of reason

probably said to you already, but you'd have a different viewpoint when this tactic is used on people who ARE guilty. If lying to someone makes them confess to a murder it allows us to put a piece of shit in jail. Unfortunately this could also trick innocent people into getting caught in the crossfire and taken instead. Although you would hope evidence shows you're innocent.

@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie But but it happened to SuperBroken81 once and he claims he's the better person for it, so deceit must be a sweet tactic. Who cares the innocent get locked up, being lied to help him and that's all that matters apparently.

@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie But but it happened to SuperBroken81 once and he claims he's the better person for it, so deceit must be a sweet tactic. Who cares the innocent get locked up, being lied to help him and that's all that matters apparently.

@Jerk Of All Trades Innocents have nothing to fear from this strategy. Like michael in the video, just express your innocence and the strategy will fall apart.

@Jerk Of All Trades Innocents have nothing to fear from this strategy. Like michael in the video, just express your innocence and the strategy will fall apart.

I understand it completely but think It should only be used in high-profile cases. In the case of Jennier (I don't know the last name, I apologize) she read told they have Satalite footage of inside the house on the day of a murder case, witch eventually led to her confessing to murdering her mother in cold blood. I think it falls under the category of intimidating and helplessness. Really only high profile cases should use it, but this defiantly shows the importance of having a lawer, kids. Having someone sit beside you keeps you calm, knowing they are on your side and can call out the bullshit of the interagators.

What's said is that he is talking to police instead of invoking his 5th amendment and going to sleep

What's said is that he is talking to police instead of invoking his 5th amendment and going to sleep

They can do it because the definition of "evidence" is so fluid.

They can do it because the definition of "evidence" is so fluid.

@PolySciWhy? You could atleast try to check it out before you dismiss it.

Many convicts of murder that are being exhonerated in the USA, now that DNA evidence can clear som people. Among those, statistics show +20% had confessed to the crime.  Despite muany years later being proven innocent.

Granted that also has to do with the fact that you in the USA can get a more leniant sentence if you plead guilty.
Which is also a problem, making ppl confess even when they didn´t do the crime, in hopes of not getting life-or death.

Are you familliar with the Milgram experiment by any chance? That experiment should tell you what it is possible to coerce a normal human to do, with the combination of pressure and authority.

The experiment, showed that in 1 hour, you could get 80% of people to kill another human being. Simply by using authroity, pressure, and putting them in a specific situaiton. Read about it, it will open your eyes to how fragile we are to outside pressure.

@Kultmannen Kultmannen No. Thats simply not true. Innocent people do not confess to murder. And furthermore the accusations dont always bring charges w out evidence

@Kultmannen Kultmannen No. Thats simply not true. Innocent people do not confess to murder. And furthermore the accusations dont always bring charges w out evidence

@PolySciWhy? It is a tactic that will produce false confessions, even in murder cases.

@PolySciWhy? It is a tactic that will produce false confessions, even in murder cases.

this is canada though<br>we don't have a constitution

this is canada though
we don't have a constitution

It is inhumane.
I got picked up by police when i was 17 and i had no clue what for until they shoved pictures of a severely beaten up blind guy in front of my face and told me they had evidence of me robbing the guy.
I thought my life was over then and there and i was looking for ways out.
They've deliberately put me into a mental state of fight and flight when this was totally unnecessary and it could have cost lifes as my mind went to all worst places possible like taking the officer's gun and trying to shoot my way out or die trying but there's no way im gonna sit idly by when people drag my families' name trough the dirt like that.
Police done me dirty before, creating situations where they could fine me for nonsense, lying, allowing my ex boss to steal from me and refusing to file a report against him..
Absolute scumbags

It *is* inhumane.
I got picked up by police when i was 17 and i had no clue what for until they shoved pictures of a severely beaten up blind guy in front of my face and told me they had evidence of me robbing the guy.
I thought my life was over then and there and i was looking for ways out.
They've deliberately put me into a mental state of fight and flight when this was totally unnecessary and it could have cost lifes as my mind went to all worst places possible like taking the officer's gun and trying to shoot my way out or die trying but there's no way im gonna sit idly by when people drag my families' name trough the dirt like that.
Police done me dirty before, creating situations where they could fine me for nonsense, lying, allowing my ex boss to steal from me and refusing to file a report against him..
Absolute scumbags

Not really. Suspects are there voluntarily. They can leave anytime since they’re not under arrest. That said, it’s not illegal to lie to them.

Not really. Suspects are there voluntarily. They can leave anytime since they’re not under arrest. That said, it’s not illegal to lie to them.

Especially when you know they can't possibly have ANYTHING that proves your guilt

Especially when you know they can't possibly have ANYTHING that proves your guilt

@Jacob Parrekar can I just comment on how civilized your debate was? Just the two of you, from the first few comments, were able to present your information and thoughts on a matter without personally attacking the other person and were also willing to give deeper thought into what the other person had to say. That is a rarity on the internet, I salute you.

@Jacob Parrekar ah yes lets not allow gaslighting to fucked up criminals can get past by simply not being lied to. Its the same vibe as believing undercover cops have to tell you they are a cop

@Jacob Parrekar ah yes lets not allow gaslighting to fucked up criminals can get past by simply not being lied to. Its the same vibe as believing undercover cops have to tell you they are a cop

@Jacob Parrekar safest bet is staying silent

@Jacob Parrekar safest bet is staying silent

It usually helps to bring out the truth faster. If the suspect (who is guilty, unlike in this case) thinks that there’s already enough evidence to prove that they’re guilty, they’ll probably just confess. there wouldn’t be any point to fight, right?<br>but the way and innocent person handles it is different.

It usually helps to bring out the truth faster. If the suspect (who is guilty, unlike in this case) thinks that there’s already enough evidence to prove that they’re guilty, they’ll probably just confess. there wouldn’t be any point to fight, right?
but the way and innocent person handles it is different.

@Luke P true dat...it wouldn't work on myself but time and time again...stories of innocent people takin someone else's case is insane to me. Good point tho. Most people don't even know they can walk out anytime and end the interrogation as long as they haven't been arrested.

@Luke P true dat...it wouldn't work on myself but time and time again...stories of innocent people takin someone else's case is insane to me. Good point tho. Most people don't even know they can walk out anytime and end the interrogation as long as they haven't been arrested.

@SuperBROKEN81 How do you discredit data, that suggests that conservatives ideas may be the result of a lower IQ and therefore lesser genetic quality, considering that we see a correlation between higher levels of education which is indicative of higher IQs and left leaning voting behavior.

It is perfectly reasonable to trick a suspect. If the suspect is quilty then they have to make up lies and making up lies can land you in a position where you forgot the lie you told before. Tricking suspect to run around in circles constantly repeating the lies creates potential situations where they slip up.

@Mofo McAssy Ugh, I'd love to leave this one alone, but here you're saying that I "used a lot of words to defend wrongful imprisonment"? WTF. How does an idea so wrong spring forth? You really should have stopped writing after your apology. I would have accepted that and moved on. The subject is not broadened. I made a general statement of fact. You yourself have acknowledged its relevance to human nature. The end. Or at least it should have been. Yet you go on to insult me anyway. You have mastered the "useless" comment, congratulations

@Jay Beam Exactly!!! The people in this comment section are delusional... to say the least...

@Jay Beam Exactly!!! The people in this comment section are delusional... to say the least...

@tabularasa okay, I do apologise, I thought you were referring to a number of people that are wrongfully imprisoned right now in the US...
That said...
Your comments are a weltschmerz cry... topic discussed is a modern day police interrogation ways, and you are talking about a total number of wrongfully incarcerated people in history, in ww2, because you think you look smart..? You are involving political and war imrisonments, and comparing them to "regular" modern day criminal ones..? And yes, all those things are very related, the past and the present, because they are a part of human nature, I do know.. but, we could broaden the subject in so many different ways, and the fact is your comments are a bit useless- u used a lot of words, to defend wrongful imprisonment, in all the wrong ways..
It really doesn't matter if you or I were rude in the comment section on a YouTube video, either. It's still not a crime to be 😉

@Mofo McAssy ...I don't mean to be rude (like you have been to me)-- but have you ever taken a history class? Do you know how many thousands of years humans have been locking each other up? When I say that "there are hundreds of thousands of innocent people that have been wrongly imprisoned," that's probably a low estimate. Humans are absolutely rotten and cruel when it comes to doling out punishment. How about we add in the number of people who have been wrongly imprisoned and then wrongly executed? We'd be in the millions. Think about the second World War. Think about the colonial era. Imperialism is devastating to human life, absolute carnage. There has been so much injustice, enslavement, death-- and the habits die hard. It continues to this day. Go "get a grip" yourself. And go read a history book.

@tabularasa oh dude... if you said that hundreds, or thousands of people are wrongfully incarcerated, maybe your entire comment would be worth something
... hundreds of thousands, really?!? Are you serious? Who tf beleives that shit?? Is that statistics from some "organisation's" website, or is it from real life?
Get a grip.

@jbearmike96 oh, look at youuu, so cute all grown up, doin dirty thingies 😍🤣

@jbearmike96 oh, look at youuu, so cute all grown up, doin dirty thingies 😍🤣

@Jacob Parrekar There's not always two ways of looking at things.

@Jacob Parrekar There's not always two ways of looking at things.

@SuperBROKEN81 "Dudes on the street talk more than women." Very true!

@SuperBROKEN81 "Dudes on the street talk more than women." Very true!

@Chris Lennon Damn! That was actually pretty good. It's nice to know there's people out there that actually know the data and the inconsistencies and even criminal protocols of our sad legal system. But honestly, if you keep making logical arguments like that most of the heads on this stream are going to explode from having to face their cognitive dissonance.

@SuperBROKEN81 Maybe you didn't catch the part where the interrogated black man was awarded nearly $50,000 for this level of disingenuous persecution and that every officer involved in this disgrace was let go without pay. Apparently the judge and anyone with common, ethical sense disagrees with your defense of lying and conjuring up false witnesses just to send a scapegoat to prison. You've also ignored the fact that one actually went to prison for two years and you're still defending that shit. Ever occur to you that maybe with that kind of thinking you should have stayed in prison a little longer than you did?

it’s not inhumane it’s a good tactic of getting actual guilty people to confess

it’s not inhumane it’s a good tactic of getting actual guilty people to confess

@Brent Farvors using lies for "personal gain" is just lying. Gaslighting is quite specific in that involves a sort of "manipulation" where you make people doubt themselves and lower their confidence in order to make them more reliant on you for decision making. Most commonly it's done through making people doubt their memory. Hence the name. Saying you have evidence against someone who knows themselves to be innocent isn't gaslighting, because the prosecutor thinks the guy actually did it.<br>This is a common misconception that people do where they make it more similar to lying so not like it's a big deal, but it's important to keep them distinct

@Brent Farvors using lies for "personal gain" is just lying. Gaslighting is quite specific in that involves a sort of "manipulation" where you make people doubt themselves and lower their confidence in order to make them more reliant on you for decision making. Most commonly it's done through making people doubt their memory. Hence the name. Saying you have evidence against someone who knows themselves to be innocent isn't gaslighting, because the prosecutor thinks the guy actually did it.
This is a common misconception that people do where they make it more similar to lying so not like it's a big deal, but it's important to keep them distinct

@Raul Passos Uh...Yes. It most certainly IS! Perfect example! Using lies, and deception to manipulate someone for personal gain...

@Raul Passos Uh...Yes. It most certainly IS! Perfect example! Using lies, and deception to manipulate someone for personal gain...

Thats what you would say after committing a crime

Thats what you would say after committing a crime

Stop. 99.9% of the time it's necessary and the suspect deserves it. It's a bluff, not psychological torture.

Stop. 99.9% of the time it's necessary and the suspect deserves it. It's a bluff, not psychological torture.

That's why you always get a lawyer...Any lawyer worth their retainer is going to know that %80 of what Police say is a lie, and know how to reveal their bluff...

That's why you always get a lawyer...Any lawyer worth their retainer is going to know that %80 of what Police say is a lie, and know how to reveal their bluff...

@SuperBROKEN81 Sadly your opinion on prison is exactly that, an opinion, the largest portion of prisoners in the state and federal system are drug offenders, NOT violent or sexual offenders.  Since its official beginning in the 1980s, the number of Americans incarcerated for drug offenses has skyrocketed from 40,900 in 1980 to 430,926 in 2019. Furthermore, harsh sentencing laws such as mandatory minimums keep many people convicted of drug offenses in prison for longer periods of time: in 1986, people released after serving time for a federal drug offense had spent an average of 22 months in prison. By 2004, people convicted on federal drug offenses were expected to serve almost three times that length: 62 months in prison.

At the federal level, people incarcerated on a drug conviction make up nearly half the prison population. At the state level, the number of people in prison for drug offenses has increased nine-fold since 1980, although it has begun declining in recent years. Most are not high-level actors in the drug trade, and most have no prior criminal record for a violent offense.

Furthermore, about one adults in three will use drugs, and just about all of them will NOT have problems with addiction....that's right, the overwhelming majority of drug users never become addicts, and even the ones that DO become addicted should NOT be criminalized, because it's a medical issue....and this isn't "SJW" stuff you whatever shortcut to thinking you want to take, this is literally medical consensus among the medical community....do we lock up obese people for overeating? Do we lock up diabetics who continue to eat sugary foods?  Hell, we don't even punish people who get heart transplants and continue to eat diets high in cholesterol, the reason why they needed the transplant to begin with, so how is it justified with substance addiction?  It can't be justified with medical science, that's for sure.

While I'm no armchair psychologist, you display many of the characteristics of Authoritarian Personality type, namely an obsession with punishment, a belief that we live in a black and white world where things are either altogether good or altogether evil, a belief that without coercion people would be rampantly murdering and raping each other....I'm going to go ahead and guess you're a trump supporter, probably proclaim to be religious, probably christian, though you probably have very little knowledge or care for the actual teaching of jesus such as forgiveness, compassion, love, humility, etc and merely see religion as a tool for power and to control people, you probably think "politics" is a conspiratorial plot, probably perpetrated by liberals to get "you" or those who think like you, probably have never spent anytime thinking about how you've become the person you are, probably had at least one dominating and repressive parent, though more likely a dominating parent and a submissive one to instill in you the characteristic of "authoritarian submission" (blindly submitting to established authority)....and I don't say this to be insulting, but this is literally what all the peer-reviewed research into Authoritarianism has shown people like you believe...the point is, if you're going to make grandiose, blanket statement, best back them up with facts and research....unless facts are too "sjw" for you and you only operate on emotions like a snowflake

@Jacob Parrekar Yep that's right, and it's an area where reform is needed. If an innocent person becomes convinced there's evidence against them, and that their conviction is assured in spite of their innocence, they may enter a false confession and guilty plea in order to minimize the impact on their lives. For example, if the crime carried a sentence of 5 years in prison, but could be plead down to two years probation and community service, an innocent person may be persuaded to accept guilt in order to avoid prison. They would be haunted by a criminal record for the rest of their lives, and the actual guilty party would walk free. It's the sort of injustice that shouldn't occur in a society which prides itself on sound jurisprudence.

that is standard police interviewing procedures and has been so as long as i have been alive and i am 57

that is standard police interviewing procedures and has been so as long as i have been alive and i am 57

@tabularasa Let me take this in steps. Obviously I'm trying to write in a format with a higher education level than I actually have.

Concerning the video and the empathy, if I really think about it, no. They caved. Is it messed up that they are going to get locked up, yes.

As a person that lived in Central Booking, I've seen rapists, murderers and pedophiles. Going into rikers Island, same crap. Going upstate, same song and dance.

They all got bagged using the same techniques that we seen in the video.

In the video, I don't know what the detectives were actually thinking. Did they honestly believe the guy was guilty? One guy never committed a crime in his life while another guy was always getting locked up.

Actually, I do feel bad for the first guy. Not the second guy. His life choices put him into that situation.

I didn't feel any particular way when I was myself put into this type of situation, that was multiple times. I only got locked up when I actually did it.

Getting locked up is the equivalent of becoming a doctor.

@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie i think the opposite is true here. I made it crystal clear why.

@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie i think the opposite is true here. I made it crystal clear why.

@SuperBROKEN81 It is 'sadly'. Dishonesty be in any aspect doesn't lead to truth, and if you think them lying here is ok, are you also ok with them lying in court about you?

@SuperBROKEN81 It is 'sadly'. Dishonesty be in any aspect doesn't lead to truth, and if you think them lying here is ok, are you also ok with them lying in court about you?

@jbearmike96 So if they are actually guilty, they'll be more likely to confess, however these cops just fucked up the whole thing.

@jbearmike96 So if they are actually guilty, they'll be more likely to confess, however these cops just fucked up the whole thing.

@max was here im a grown man almost 50. Im well aware it happens sometimes. But i fully support it for murder cases. Because it works. Look at every video in this playlist. They all used it to get confessions. Had they not those killers would be free.

@max was here im a grown man almost 50. Im well aware it happens sometimes. But i fully support it for murder cases. Because it works. Look at every video in this playlist. They all used it to get confessions. Had they not those killers would be free.

There should be a constitutional amendment guaranteeing compensation for the innocent and penalties for abuse like gaslighting.

There should be a constitutional amendment guaranteeing compensation for the innocent and penalties for abuse like gaslighting.

@PolySciWhy? sure, until you realize the issue isn't about "people's feelings". it's about highly strategic emotional and psychological manipulation tactics used during an extremely high-stress, likely even traumatic, situation. police are taught to manipulate the suspect in any way necessary, as long as it results in a confession. if the cops think you did it? then you did it. reality be damned, they found an answer they like and they'll do what it takes to make that answer into the new reality. just go look up the innocence project. or literally any case like the one in this video where the accused is later exonerated. coerced confessions and many, many other wrongfully incriminating results come from this very manipulation tactic that police use. it's far more common than you think. innocent until proven guilty, an arrest does not denote guilt. coercing a confession is wrong regardless of the suspect.

I think it's only if they already know enough about the crime or have enough evidence. They can't just say out of nowhere that they have stuff if they don't. For example, there was one case where there were three suspects. The officers told the one suspect who did commit the murder that the other two already confessed, even though they didn't. That made the murderer confess since he believed his buddies did, too. That's the right way to do it. What the officer did in this video is appalling and not true to justice at all, so it was right that he was demoted.

I support it for murder cases. Finding a killer trumps People’s feelings. If they didnt do it they will get through the interrogation just fine

I support it for murder cases. Finding a killer trumps People’s feelings. If they didnt do it they will get through the interrogation just fine

becaue if you are really innocent, you ask "proof of what? show me please". If you did something, it would put doubts in your head

becaue if you are really innocent, you ask "proof of what? show me please". If you did something, it would put doubts in your head

@Remzi Cavdar Requesting a state appointed attorney is the dumbest thing you could do after being arrested. No one wants to spend time locked up waiting for a public defender. Its safe to assume that in a situation like this the average person would trust that they can quickly absolve themselves by pleading their case with the cops.

@Jacob Parrekar That's why I don't understand why people still talk to the police without a lawyer present. JUst ask for a lawyer when this happens and they are required by law to provide you one (public defender).

@Jacob Parrekar That's why I don't understand why people still talk to the police without a lawyer present. JUst ask for a lawyer when this happens and they are required by law to provide you one (public defender).

@cryomancer Thanks for the input! Now you can go back to Twitter and post about it to all the SJW's.

If anything, "romanticizing" as you put it, the street got me 8 years of my life.

@cryomancer Thanks for the input! Now you can go back to Twitter and post about it to all the SJW's.

If anything, "romanticizing" as you put it, the street got me 8 years of my life.

@Jerk Of All Trades Don't know, ask your pops

@Jerk Of All Trades Don't know, ask your pops

@SuperBROKEN81 I'll take "things that did not happen" for $500 Alex. What does boot polish taste like?

@SuperBROKEN81 I'll take "things that did not happen" for $500 Alex. What does boot polish taste like?

Cops should not be allowed to lie, EVER.

Cops should not be allowed to lie, EVER.

@jbearmike96 I have no clue if your trolling. I just know you never did dirt and honestly I thought you were an SJW. I was willing to tell my experience being locked up. I only met 1 guy that I thought was innocent.  That's why people left him alone . Same tactics in the video, guy   caved because the detectives offered him a deal. 10 years with good behavior. So he confessed to something he never did.

He was released when the person got bagged. Keven never even got money because he confessed in 5 hours. I find that bullshit, but it is what it is.

@SuperBROKEN81 i was just fuckin around dude...jeez

@SuperBROKEN81 i was just fuckin around dude...jeez

@jbearmike96 Of course they laughed. So? Interrogation is a game. Yeah I thanked them. WTF They saved my life and no one even knew. I learned 2 years in that I had a hit squad hiding in my apt. Funny thing is dudes on the street talk more then women.

@jbearmike96 Of course they laughed. So? Interrogation is a game. Yeah I thanked them. WTF They saved my life and no one even knew. I learned 2 years in that I had a hit squad hiding in my apt. Funny thing is dudes on the street talk more then women.

@SuperBROKEN81 Perhaps. But theres always two ways of looking at things. I cant argue with your logic, because it does make sense as well. But judging from a more humane point of view, I dont consider that a very fair play. But whatever floats their boats i guess? Good on you for reforming

@Jacob Parrekar Ok, but don't say sadly it's legal or it's a fucked up law.  I got bagged by police because they they said I was caught on cameras. I had no clue I was ratted out. If I knew that I would have been able to go home that night. So it never became a drawn out investigation. Thankfully I became a better person.

8 years later I walked into the precinct and thanked them.

@SuperBROKEN81 Effective sure. But sometimes you cant help but feel for the suspect when they're truly innocent. Leads to one disaster to the other.

@SuperBROKEN81 Effective sure. But sometimes you cant help but feel for the suspect when they're truly innocent. Leads to one disaster to the other.

@Jacob Parrekar That's not sadly. It's an effective tact.

@Jacob Parrekar That's not sadly. It's an effective tact.

Sadly, it is legal. I dont know what type of fucked up law this comes from, but the Police are allowed to/ some encourage using deception or trickery to get a confession out of the defendant.
On the flip side, You can be arrested and charged if the cops think you're lying to them. Falls under Class B misdemeanor  to “knowingly” make a “false statement” to a police officer if it is considered “material to a criminal investigation.”
Ridiculous, in my opinion.


You are innocent? Don't speak to the police since they want you in jail.

@Muhammad Hassan Kiyani well i live in an islamic country and there is little to no representation here, be honest now, you are not uae who has to keep its image intact for tourism.

@Jefrrey Jeffery no, you won't. Where did you read that? Fox News?

in Islamic country, you'll straight go to jail lol

They’ll jail you until you get in contact with an attorney if you’re in this far. They approached the man with guns. It’s all unfortunate and unprofessional.


When YOU lie, it's obstruction and filing a false report. When THEY lie, it's "investigative technique" or "harmless error."

@KillerGrooves They can't "lie" about evidence they don't have but they can twist what they do have and "lose" evidence they did have that shows innocence or doubt as what happened to a relative of mine who went to court, had so called evidenced that was shown to be incorrect BEFORE it went to court multiple times by different professionals, each time they didn't accept it so went to another person to try and show it to suit their arrest.  Just as the media who reported on it already judged he was guilty and when he was originally arrested only put what he was arrested for, what the police said and not things that were thrown out before court, and at court when the police made a claim that was proven incorrect they printed the allegation but not that it was thrown out or what relatives lawyer had found as inconsistencies in the Polices argument and shown to be untrue the media ignored it.

@Ed1749 you are so right, imagine starting out with "we got evidence that you did it" and expect the conversation to go on.

Edward Flynn I’m pretty sure that in England police aren’t allowed to lie about evidence they don’t have. From what I understand, they have a completely different interrogation model that’s more effective than the slapdash anything goes methods that American cops use. Here’s an article about it: https://www.innocenceproject.org/how-the-uk-police-interview-suspects/


I really feel for that guy who was wrongfully convicted and locked away for 2 years... I hope he got some compensation for all that hardship.

I really feel for that guy who was wrongfully convicted and locked away for 2 years... I hope he got some compensation for all that hardship.

@sk8erbyern the man with the beard served two years for the crime that was being talked about in this video, aka that he robbed and assaulted that candy girl. He had already done time way before for a different crime. He was exonerated when candy kept lying on stand. He did not break into her house or assault her.

No he was locked 2 years prior for stealing something he wasn’t locked for the woman lying.

No he was locked 2 years prior for stealing something he wasn’t locked for the woman lying.

@martijn van de Wetering Thats for the guy in jail 3 days dude!

@martijn van de Wetering Thats for the guy in jail 3 days dude!

@Copelandia thats the difference between the US and Canadian justice system.

@Copelandia thats the difference between the US and Canadian justice system.

why you should never talk to cops even if you have done nothing.

why you should never talk to cops even if you have done nothing.

@Zack Crawf Justin was in jail for 2 years before he was exonerated. That is not debatable

@Zack Crawf Justin was in jail for 2 years before he was exonerated. That is not debatable

@Ron Mathew Joe he spent 2 years in jail awaiting trial

@Ron Mathew Joe he spent 2 years in jail awaiting trial

@shawn d well yeah no name was used how are we going to describe them "dark skin with male pattern baldness with calming tone and got 3 days in jail and bearded man with quite large hair and an aggressive tone" exactly

Imagine the guy who served something like 30 years and was innocent. Watched it the other day on here 😳

Imagine the guy who served something like 30 years and was innocent. Watched it the other day on here 😳

Is there a way he could have debated for two years of average yearly income in compensation?

Is there a way he could have debated for two years of average yearly income in compensation?

@Incredible Adventures Saying "bald" and "bearded" works but it's just pointless eggshell-walking to appease mindless zealots. Skin color is the more obvious identifier and should be used for practicality. And you throwing around the word racist whenever you feel like it only discredits the charge.

The two cases are distinctly different. The first guy was compensated not because he was detained for no reason, but because the police SHOULD HAVE KNOWN he was innocent. The 911 call stated the perpetrator was a short white man, also the alibi he had was 100% waterproof and he had multiple witnesses who would confirm it (it wasn't just that the officer didn't interview anyone like the video stated, he did and ignored the evidence), yet the police officer chose to ignore the evidence for his innocence and continued to detain him until an actual honest officer took the case from him. In this case, police misconduct was the sole cause for the wrongful imprisonment, so the town had to reimburse him for the damages

In the second case, the police HAD A REASON to suspect the man. They had  witness who claimed he had committed the crime, but the witness was lying. In this case it was not the fault of the police but the dishonest witness, so he would not receive as great of a reimbursement (I'm pretty sure he would receive something, but proportionally way less for the time spent)

https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/2011/05/25/judge-rakes-cops-over-the-coals-for-wrongful-arrest.html
Here are more details on the first case. The police officer didn't get demoted btw, he later got a promotion to sargeant

@Halbgebildeter Wait... so did the bearded guy get exonerated <b>after</b> 2 years in jail, or did he not get imprisoned at all?

@Halbgebildeter Wait... so did the bearded guy get exonerated *after* 2 years in jail, or did he not get imprisoned at all?

I can’t tell if they guy used as an example of a standard reaction to a false accusation got 2 years from the false accusation or that was the 2 years he had already served apart of his 3 year sentence that he got off on good behaviour for robbery because jcs makes reference to the accuser’s testimony falling apart and being full of lies and the guy getting off.

FiNiSH Random to me even sitting in jail for a few hours is false imprisonment. Nobody should have to sit in a jail cell for something they didn’t do.

Don’t get me wrong I get mistakes are made. But let’s be honest here it must take a special kind of incompetence for someone to go through this for two years

@Zack Crawf did you not watch the video? he was exonerated AFTER spending 2 years in jail awaiting trial. He DID go to jail for the false accusation

@Zack Crawf did you not watch the video? he was exonerated AFTER spending 2 years in jail awaiting trial. He DID go to jail for the false accusation

@Nik K. Justin was in jail for 2 years awaiting trial for the false accusation. The video literally says that clear as day

@Nik K. Justin was in jail for 2 years awaiting trial for the false accusation. The video literally says that clear as day

@Jackbob he wasn't in prison, he was in a holding jail

@Jackbob he wasn't in prison, he was in a holding jail

He was never convicted though. He was detained for 2 years

He was never convicted though. He was detained for 2 years

@Nik K. Thank you. Idk why people think he went to jail. It literally says he was exonerated in court when her allegations fell apart.

@Nik K. Thank you. Idk why people think he went to jail. It literally says he was exonerated in court when her allegations fell apart.

@shawn d bald vs bearded is better than guy vs the other guy vs that dude vs the one that got 46k. I don't understand how people communicate so poorly with descriptions.

@shawn d bald vs bearded is better than guy vs the other guy vs that dude vs the one that got 46k. I don't understand how people communicate so poorly with descriptions.

The bearded guy did not go to jail but was exonerated during trail. He was in jail for two years PRIOR to this occurrence, not BECAUSE of this occurrence.

The bearded guy did not go to jail but was exonerated during trail. He was in jail for two years PRIOR to this occurrence, not BECAUSE of this occurrence.

@shawn d it’s funny because we don’t NEED any other identifying characteristics. Only people like you get hung up on the “other” characteristics when they’re not relevant to the case.

@martijn van de Wetering no, that was the guy that got 3 days jailtime, the guy whp got 2 years, the video said nothing about

@martijn van de Wetering no, that was the guy that got 3 days jailtime, the guy whp got 2 years, the video said nothing about

@shawn d why do you think he said this to be PC 😂 hair/hairstyle is like one of the most obvious characteristics to identify people with.

@shawn d why do you think he said this to be PC 😂 hair/hairstyle is like one of the most obvious characteristics to identify people with.

@Lexi Curtis no, the guy who was in jail for 3 days got that

@Lexi Curtis no, the guy who was in jail for 3 days got that

The sad thing is this happens a lot in america and there's a bunch of innocent people in prison right now. Some who will never get out.

The sad thing is this happens a lot in america and there's a bunch of innocent people in prison right now. Some who will never get out.

46k for 2 years wrongly imprisoned? What the fuck?! Give that man 200k at least

46k for 2 years wrongly imprisoned? What the fuck?! Give that man 200k at least

@shawn d what? he said a defining characteristic and you say he's pc? tf

@shawn d what? he said a defining characteristic and you say he's pc? tf

From what I have read, most people falsely imprisoned receive somewhere between $50-70k a year. Not like it gives a shed of happiness for 2 years lost or what usually occurs to prisoners in shower time, but it’s something. The mental anguish lawsuit is where the real money is at.

I doubt it. The hogs just chew you up and spit you out

I doubt it. The hogs just chew you up and spit you out

@shawn d Why would the original commenter have to describe everything about each persons' appearance, but mainly their skin? You know which one is the bearded one is and you know which one is the bald one. Seems kinda weird that you needed OP to talk about race and make it about politics.

This has nothing to do with race and PC lmao

@shawn d What the hell man, One is bald and one has a beard, why not use them as identifying characteristics? Does it really have to be black or white for you to be happy ?

@shawn d What the hell man, One is bald and one has a beard, why not use them as identifying characteristics? Does it really have to be black or white for you to be happy ?

@martijn van de Wetering mane if went in for 2 years 40k ain’t enough you can make have of that in 6 months

@martijn van de Wetering mane if went in for 2 years 40k ain’t enough you can make have of that in 6 months

@martijn van de Wetering Not even a a comfortable living wage for one year... What the fuck

@martijn van de Wetering Not even a a comfortable living wage for one year... What the fuck

@martijn van de Wetering, 2 per year million should be enough.

@martijn van de Wetering, 2 per year million should be enough.

It's frustrating when these things happen. It normally comes down to cops not doing a good enough job. Cops should be held personally accountable when something like this happens. I know it sounds harsh, but there should be a serious fear of getting the wrong person. It effects people's lives in unimaginable ways. Not only do they lose the time, but the trauma and label will stick with them for the rest of their lives. The media loves drumming up drama over stories, but you won't often see them telling you the person was actually innocent all along.

@shawn d the PC world is the reason a black guy got stereotyped and racially profiled? Lol makes sense. I'm no pc SJW but thay logic makes no sense

@shawn d the PC world is the reason a black guy got stereotyped and racially profiled? Lol makes sense. I'm no pc SJW but thay logic makes no sense

@shawn d
those are literally the two biggest identifiers of both lmao
also what do you mean by "this mess"

@shawn d
those are literally the two biggest identifiers of both lmao
also what do you mean by "this mess"

@Yummy Cookie Which I did not, the purpose of my comment was to show that the person I responded to was applying a political narrative to a non political comment and since this thread is now an utter cesspool of political idiocy I think I was justified in that assertion.

@Miranda Fitch <br>46k for 3 days is a lot, i think its absolut fair deal.

@Miranda Fitch
46k for 3 days is a lot, i think its absolut fair deal.

@Yummy Cookie nope. watch the video again and listen carefully this time.

@Yummy Cookie nope. watch the video again and listen carefully this time.

@Nico Cee here in Poland one guy was wrongly convicted and did 20 years in jail

@Nico Cee here in Poland one guy was wrongly convicted and did 20 years in jail

@martijn van de Wetering 46k was for the other guy.

@martijn van de Wetering 46k was for the other guy.

@Adrein Villa I am not a racist. I used white and black because normally the skin colour is the most prominent one therefore we tend to use them.

@Adrein Villa I am not a racist. I used white and black because normally the skin colour is the most prominent one therefore we tend to use them.

@Jackbob thank you. Finally someone who did get it right.

@Jackbob thank you. Finally someone who did get it right.

@ddandymann I was responding to people who said it's racist

@ddandymann I was responding to people who said it's racist

@Copelandia What did him in was his past history of similar crimes. Sucks.

@Copelandia What did him in was his past history of similar crimes. Sucks.

@shawn d Did anybody else say there are no identifying characteristics or are normal people just not so obsessed with race like you are

@shawn d Did anybody else say there are no identifying characteristics or are normal people just not so obsessed with race like you are

@Apalapse you’re hilarious, I’d gladly get locked up for two years in exchange for 46k 🥴

@Apalapse you’re hilarious, I’d gladly get locked up for two years in exchange for 46k 🥴

@ddandymann man, you really contorted what I said into something completely different. It's like you don't comprehend English or something.

@ddandymann man, you really contorted what I said into something completely different. It's like you don't comprehend English or something.

@rubadub So calling someone bald is racist now? As a dude with thinning hair I say screw that.

@rubadub So calling someone bald is racist now? As a dude with thinning hair I say screw that.

@ddandymann actually projecting politics is what you're doing. Think about it. Being called bald brings generally negative connotations - aka people don't like it. Being called black is a point of pride. You trying to reverse that here is inherently racist.

@Yummy Cookie You're missing the point, OP saying bald and bearded isn't necessarily substituting those for white & black, like shawn is projecting. Those are easily equal if not better identifying characteristics.

Therefore shawn is the weird one for being a culture war hipster and using what is essentially loose association to frame someone else's comment as "PC". It's also a tad strange for you to be engaging the people calling him out for it as if you understood either OP or shawn, or the people replying to shawn, as it seems that you're a bit lost in the sauce on this one. No offense. You aren't wrong, this just isn't what you think it is lol. I don't see anyone saying that shawn is racist or that it's racist to say white & black. They're just calling shawn out for being weird about the fact that that isn't the words someone else chose to use, and to discourage that doesn't really make sense.

Shawn totally deserves to be roasted a bit for being a reverse speech-nazi hipster and injecting that into a convo that has nothing to do with his evidentially buzzword obsessed approach to political and non-political discussion, making things into what they are not and all that.

@shawn d what that's the best description other than the ginger and the non Ginger

@shawn d what that's the best description other than the ginger and the non Ginger

@shawn d So because he didn't mention skin colour he's being PC? Despite the literal easiest things to see on these saturated images being a huge beard and a completely bald head, you NEED to mention skin colour or you're being PC? People avoiding the obvious is something that annoys me I'm not PC myself, but this guy mentioned the very clearest identifiers in a way I didn't even take a second to know who he was talking about, and you saying that he's PC because he needed to include skin colour is just straight racist, and I very rarely use that term.

@Tony Nguyen The guy with the beard was locked up for 2 yrs before released. I'm sure he got more 46K that the guy for 3 days got.

@Tony Nguyen The guy with the beard was locked up for 2 yrs before released. I'm sure he got more 46K that the guy for 3 days got.

@Tony Nguyen white dude got over 2 years, black dude got 3 day's. Maybe you should rewatch.

@Tony Nguyen white dude got over 2 years, black dude got 3 day's. Maybe you should rewatch.

@martijn van de Wetering that was the black man who was rewarded that, the white dude, the guy never mentioned it.

@martijn van de Wetering that was the black man who was rewarded that, the white dude, the guy never mentioned it.

@shawn d Okay, but who asked your opinion about how they chose to differentiate them? Who asked?

@shawn d Okay, but who asked your opinion about how they chose to differentiate them? Who asked?

It varies often. Typically compensation is determined by how severe the mistake was and how much prison time the person served before being released. However, it also depends on the state you are in. I believe the majority of states compensate about 50k-100k per year to the victim. There might be even more compensation if the person is on death row as well. No idea about the guy being locked up for two years.

@shawn d those are both clearly defining characteristics. You knew who they were referring to right? Why does it matter then? It's really weird you are like ITCHING for the racial description. Racist world is hilarious. Probably how we got into this mess in the first place.

@shawn d what you can't think of any descriptors other than the color of skin? Shows your intelligence

@shawn d what you can't think of any descriptors other than the color of skin? Shows your intelligence

@shawn d Why is it so important that he is referred to as the "black guy" instead of the bald guy?

@shawn d Why is it so important that he is referred to as the "black guy" instead of the bald guy?

@Apalapse there's ppl falsely convicted for 20+ years and didn't get shit

@Apalapse there's ppl falsely convicted for 20+ years and didn't get shit

@OlympianOtter23 I said what EVERYBODY IN TODAY'S BULLSHIT PC WORLD WANTED TOO SAY BUT WERE TOO SCARED TOO SAY IT. REREAD THE COMMENTS & JUST SEE, SON. I DON'T TAKE PILLS, IT DULL'S THE SENSE'S. MAYBE YOU SHOULD IF IT BOTHER'S YOU SO MUCH ? THANKS FOR THE REPLY & YOUR OPINION, EVERYBODY HAS 1 YA KNOW, LOL.

That is so sad. He says he was trying to do right by working hard, only to be hit with this. No wonder people go back to crime so often. Justin deserved better.

That is so sad. He says he was trying to do right by working hard, only to be hit with this. No wonder people go back to crime so often. Justin deserved better.

@Will Vrooman ah I see, thanks for correcting me on that.

@Will Vrooman ah I see, thanks for correcting me on that.

@nowr2run who said you can’t say black or white? Just because that’s not the choice of words they chose doesn’t mean they’re off limits. Considering how bald and bearded the respective people are I’d say they are just as noticeable a characteristic. Setting expectations for what you want to hear is what’s wrong, take a chill pill and check yourself.

@Apalapse yes, but the 2 year guy isn't who got the 46k. That's what the guy you're replying to is saying. The one who was only locked up for 3 days got the 46k. The one locked up for 2 years must of made more is what the commenter you're replying to was saying.

@Miranda Fitch they owe him their wives ...<br>rightfully said .

@Miranda Fitch they owe him their wives ...
rightfully said .

@martijn van de Wetering No that was the other one who was locked up for 3 days. It literally talks about that at the last minute of the video.

@martijn van de Wetering No that was the other one who was locked up for 3 days. It literally talks about that at the last minute of the video.

I don't know how so many of you literally have no idea what you just watched and still spouting out nonsense as if you understood everything.

These are the facts from the video:
The tall black man was held in custody for 3 days. And given 46K CAD as compensation.

The bearded white guy sat over 2 years in prison for the break-in/assault that he did NOT commit. He had previously sat 3 years in prison for a robbery which he DID commit.

He wasnt locked away for 2 years for the false claim. That was previous conviction. He was proven innocent

He wasnt locked away for 2 years for the false claim. That was previous conviction. He was proven innocent

the bearded guy didn't go to jail for this. he did 2 years in county jail FOR HIS LAST CRIME, not now. the bald guy was jailed for 3 days was the one who received the money.

the bearded guy didn't go to jail for this. he did 2 years in county jail FOR HIS LAST CRIME, not now. the bald guy was jailed for 3 days was the one who received the money.

@Halbgebildeter Oh shoot I missed that on my first watch, you are correct sir. Damn that really sucks.

@Halbgebildeter Oh shoot I missed that on my first watch, you are correct sir. Damn that really sucks.

@Treyson Sherk 5:45 "...he is about to be wrongfully imprisoned for just over two years", and 8:54 says he was exonerated, which according to Wikipedia is "...when the conviction for a crime is reversed".

@thatsthe true I'm just going off what the video itself says. It bothers me to see so many people in the comments upset just because they seem to have misunderstood what happened.

@thatsthe true I'm just going off what the video itself says. It bothers me to see so many people in the comments upset just because they seem to have misunderstood what happened.

@Treyson Sherk glad to hear that. Hope its true

@Treyson Sherk glad to hear that. Hope its true

I don't think this is correct. According to the video Justin (the bearded guy) served 2 years for a PRIOR burglary in his 20's that he DID commit, this later arrest was overturned in court. It's at 8:54 and 10:49 in the video. Edit: I stand corrected: at 5:54 it does say he is wrongfully imprisoned for the crime he didn't commit. Boy that sucks.

@Tony Nguyen  In Sweden one guy got 930k usd for being in jail for 8 years when he was proven innocent.

@Tony Nguyen  In Sweden one guy got 930k usd for being in jail for 8 years when he was proven innocent.

@Teo Pazdrijan No.  Both interviews we see in this video are wrongful accusations.  He previously served 3 years for a completely different crime, which he actually did commit.

@Teo Pazdrijan No.  Both interviews we see in this video are wrongful accusations.  He previously served 3 years for a completely different crime, which he actually did commit.

@sk8erbyern You got it wrong, watch again.  The white dude <i>was</i> innocent of the crime we see him being accused of in this video.  He previously served another 3 year sentence for a completely different crime, and then went back in for another 2 years after being falsely accused of the crime in this video.

@sk8erbyern You got it wrong, watch again.  The white dude _was_ innocent of the crime we see him being accused of in this video.  He previously served another 3 year sentence for a completely different crime, and then went back in for another 2 years after being falsely accused of the crime in this video.

There was this couple who was wrongfully locked up for like 8+ years or something, I don’t really remember, and it was for “practicing satanist activities on kids” when really nothing happened

We're talking about the US in this case. I would not get my hopes up.

We're talking about the US in this case. I would not get my hopes up.

@Jamie cottle The second dude was rightfully accused of something and sentenced for 2 years, right?

@Jamie cottle The second dude was rightfully accused of something and sentenced for 2 years, right?

The first guy they talked to was in for 3 days abd was awarded 46,000 watch the whole video people

The first guy they talked to was in for 3 days abd was awarded 46,000 watch the whole video people

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Why are you arguing about race anyway? I am bald and I have a beard. If someone doesn't know me nor my name how should this someone describe me? A human? A terrestrial male human being? A guy wearing clothes maybe? How then? Maybe "not naked" to avoid being offensive? Stupid discussions leads to nothing but stupid discussions and stupid discussions leads to stupid discussions a[...]

The guy who started this thread doesn't even believe in what he said. He was just seeing how people would react to or even simpler: he was just bored. I don't blame him, that's the mal du siècle! BOREDOM.

@heytherecool cos pc gone mad. Michale got compensation. The bearded man no.

@heytherecool cos pc gone mad. Michale got compensation. The bearded man no.

@Yummy Cookie I agree, so why did you bring it up?

@Yummy Cookie I agree, so why did you bring it up?

@martijn van de Wetering That's depressing...

@martijn van de Wetering That's depressing...

i just wanted to check the replies under this comment to see if someone found out if he got any compensation for the 2 years, why are most of these replies arguing about race

i just wanted to check the replies under this comment to see if someone found out if he got any compensation for the 2 years, why are most of these replies arguing about race

@ddandymann race is not better identifcation. It rather more prominent, and usually gives a proper differination therefore we resort to it more often. If I refer to the two men in the video by balck and white I think it's acceptable and common sense. Racism has nothing to do here.

@shawn d ikr. But I refuse to bow to such stupidity. There is nothing wrong in saying black and white. It all depends on the context.

@shawn d ikr. But I refuse to bow to such stupidity. There is nothing wrong in saying black and white. It all depends on the context.

@martijn van de Wetering no. That was for Michale the black guy. Not for the white bearded guy

@martijn van de Wetering no. That was for Michale the black guy. Not for the white bearded guy

I feel like a dumbass I thought he just had and good tan lol

I feel like a dumbass I thought he just had and good tan lol

@Miranda Fitch how did you come up with that figure?

@Miranda Fitch how did you come up with that figure?

@shawn d What is your point and what does "PC" have anything to do with this? IF youre implying that "black man" vs "white" is more descriptive, you're being meaninglessly pedantic. Even worst is the fact that the bald guy was likely falsely accused precisely because of these officer's implicit bias against people of his complexion, hence their failure to even read the damn description. i.e, the "PC world" you mention carries way more likelihood of preventing this, not the other way around...this really just feels like youre projecting your own political bias buddy

@shawn d Wait that's what you got from that? Assuming the guy is being PC? Maybe it's his personal preference when describing people. 1. Seems you're literally more offended by a random person's very unoffensive description of others. 2. You reach really far by assuming the person is PC based how he chose to describe someone. You literally don't have enough evidence of that, yet you confidently made that assertion and almost seem offended by it...

@martijn van de Wetering Nah, they guy who got 46k was the one who spent 3 days in jail. IT WAS IN THE VIDEO

@martijn van de Wetering Nah, they guy who got 46k was the one who spent 3 days in jail. IT WAS IN THE VIDEO

@shawn d What makes race a better identifying factor than drastically different hairstyles? It seems to me like you're projecting your own political narrative onto an innocent and non political comment. Making you the exact think you claim to dislike.

@shawn d I mean what else do you need to know? If you watch the video you can easily see one is bald and one is bearded. You’re really overthinking this amigo.

@shawn d I mean what else do you need to know? If you watch the video you can easily see one is bald and one is bearded. You’re really overthinking this amigo.

@shawn d Did that not work for you? Racist gonna racist I guess.

@shawn d Did that not work for you? Racist gonna racist I guess.

100k. Millions for being locked in a cage for 2 years with violent criminals.

100k. Millions for being locked in a cage for 2 years with violent criminals.

@Apalapse bro you could just say the one with hair, or the blonde and white one

@Apalapse bro you could just say the one with hair, or the blonde and white one

@Apalapse nope, the other guy (white aggressive dude) was imprisoned for 2 years but he was not innocence for that crime. He is being falsely accused after serving his sentence. This time he is innocent

@shawn d I am bald and you can call me bald if you want

@shawn d I am bald and you can call me bald if you want

Do you really expect the government to take responsibility for its failures?

Do you really expect the government to take responsibility for its failures?

Having  just done 3 years, the damage will be irreversible. The officers that locked him up will have been promoted while he was inside.

Having  just done 3 years, the damage will be irreversible. The officers that locked him up will have been promoted while he was inside.

He was in county lockup for two years awaiting trial, which led to a dismissal of the case. It is very likely that he didn't receive any compensation out of hand and would have to file a civil suit.

In his case, because of his prior incarceration, a case like that wouldn't be a slam dunk if aimed at the state. The investigators were not at fault since they had credible info he was responsible for the breaking and assault. He could and most likely will have sued 'Candy' for defamation..

You usually get about 50k dollars per year. Should be a lot more in my opinion doe

You usually get about 50k dollars per year. Should be a lot more in my opinion doe

@Tony Nguyen i think when the narrator said he did two years it was mistaken for his prior time served. I thought the same thing at first.

@Tony Nguyen i think when the narrator said he did two years it was mistaken for his prior time served. I thought the same thing at first.

@joefish41 no, it's literally in some comments

@joefish41 no, it's literally in some comments

@martijn van de Wetering "The guy you got it from" lmfao.  You mean, you misunderstood the video.

@martijn van de Wetering "The guy you got it from" lmfao.  You mean, you misunderstood the video.

@Nico Cee yeah makes sense. The guy I got it from said it was for the guy who spend two years in prison, although he probably just confused the two.

@Nico Cee yeah makes sense. The guy I got it from said it was for the guy who spend two years in prison, although he probably just confused the two.

@Copelandia Bald vs bearded eh? 😂 No other identifying characteristics!? PC world is hilarious. Probably how we got into this mess in the first place.

@Copelandia Bald vs bearded eh? 😂 No other identifying characteristics!? PC world is hilarious. Probably how we got into this mess in the first place.

Watch the whole video guys!!!! The one who received 46k was the bald one. The other the bearded one got nothing but 2 years in a jail despite being innocente.

Watch the whole video guys!!!! The one who received 46k was the bald one. The other the bearded one got nothing but 2 years in a jail despite being innocente.

@martijn van de Wetering 46k? I’d say they owe him at least 100k

@martijn van de Wetering 46k? I’d say they owe him at least 100k

@Nico Cee talking about the oher guy they showed in the video... the one they used as an example for how someone normally responds to being wrongfully convicted.  He got two years behind bars before his hearing where he was proved innocent

@martijn van de Wetering That's the dude who spent 3 days locked up, again, for 3 days so imagine how much the 2 year dude could get as compensation lol

@martijn van de Wetering That's the dude who spent 3 days locked up, again, for 3 days so imagine how much the 2 year dude could get as compensation lol

@Tony Nguyen We're talking about the other guy that he used as an example of more common reactions to being falsely accused

@Tony Nguyen We're talking about the other guy that he used as an example of more common reactions to being falsely accused

I saw someone in the comments say he got 46k CAD for inconvenience

I saw someone in the comments say he got 46k CAD for inconvenience


I wish i could get interrogated so I can sit there and talk shit to a detective for 24 hours straight.


The last things that i heard make me happy.He got award.And  dedectives suspendend.I love justice.


Part of the problem with the system is that the officers were demoted and suspended without pay for falsely imprisoning a man.  They should have been charged with that crime.  And if the man had been abused in prison they should have been held responsible for that.  If he had been murdered then they should have been tried for murder.  And since they were officers of the law they should have been given the death penalty.  <br>Until we start raising the stakes for gross incompetence, racism or whatever this was we will continue to have law enforcement acting out of other interests than enforcing the law.

Part of the problem with the system is that the officers were demoted and suspended without pay for falsely imprisoning a man.  They should have been charged with that crime.  And if the man had been abused in prison they should have been held responsible for that.  If he had been murdered then they should have been tried for murder.  And since they were officers of the law they should have been given the death penalty.
Until we start raising the stakes for gross incompetence, racism or whatever this was we will continue to have law enforcement acting out of other interests than enforcing the law.


He asked for a lawyer and he didn’t stop asking him questions.


Haha bro was calm the whole time because he KNEW he was innocent, He KNEW he was gonna make a check lmaaooo


Hi, I’m Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? The Constitution says you do. And so do I. I believe that until proven guilty, every man, woman, and child in this country is innocent. And that’s why I fight for you, Albuquerque! Better call Saul.

Богдан Шевчук


No they should have been terminated on the spot, they will just do it again otherwise. Police must be heald to a higher standard.


the interview was pissing me off until the end, usually the people doing this never get punished


Dude...I get nervous every time I leave Walmart when I don't buy anything. I feel people would think I'm stealing when I'm not. lol


Demoted isn’t entirely enough, for me…
As satisfying as that IS….if we wasn’t out back down to “Beat Cop”, or even fired..?
Then there’s a travesty. How many times has this guy DONE this?? How many innocent people has he locked up?


I think about how if JCS made a video that was instead on the side of the investigator, many viewers would not realise that the investigator is doing a bad job.


Buddy said "AS GOD IS MY WITNESS!" that's the best witness to call on.


This is why everyone should know your rights and even though you know you are innocent, Don't say a word without council.


Glad this story has a happy ending. This video doesn't go into it, but there seems to be a straight line that can be drawn between the fact that this guy is black and the incompetent cops feeling so sure he was guilty, even without and (from the sounds of it) contradicting evidence.  I would put money on this type of thing happening all the time, and bet there are many innocent individuals who aren't as lucky to be exonerated.


Haven’t finished the video, both of these investigators need to be in jail


That’s would be so hard to  stay calm good for him for being so cool


I don't understand something:
When suspects are read their rights, especially innocent ones like this man but any of 'em really, how come they don't invoke any of those rights to protect themselves from people like this investigator (who could have ruined this man's life!  Many cases like this end up in innocent serving a sentence for a crime they didn't commit.  They could have been less eloquent & know less about the system than he did, and bam!  Prison!

They could also be mentally ill (undiagnosed), or simply not speaking the best English.  Or be weird to USA behaviors, due to being from a different culture where body language is not the same at all.

I'm one of these awkward ppl who never behave in expected manner to the western world, no matter how long I live here.  Pretty certain I'd get in some shit if someone ever randomly accused me of something I've not done.  Panic attack would happen first (mental illnesses), and they'd probably think "ah she's faking".

Scary thought, tbh.


The narrator is so perfect for those JCS-Series.<br>He is the Morgan Freeman of the true crime documentaries

The narrator is so perfect for those JCS-Series.
He is the Morgan Freeman of the true crime documentaries


I can not believe they didn't get the victim to come in and ask if that was the person.


this was soooo hard to watch the detectives kept pissing me off lol


It hurts to see the first guy being nothing but polite, and still treated like garbage. The ginger guy story tho is heartbreaking.

@Chris Smith well, I'm definitely not the guy dancing on tik tok

@Robot Account you must be fun at parties

@Chris Smith every celeb is a trans..every famous person is a Mason or kabal or other secret society..the reach is endless.not broad enough if you ask me..if you know the name.well..

@Keith W. Yes.  This is extremely common knowledge in my world view, but I'm certainly aware of how few people actually understand it and then can do it when the time comes.  But it's absolutely a must when dealing with law enforcement.  I challenge people all of the time to try it.  Next time you happen to be stopped by the police for speeding or whatnot, try it.  When the officer asks where you were going, just tell him you're not going to talk about your day and say nothing more.  Just provide him what he needs (license, insurance, etc).  Most people find they can't do it - which is really part of the problem.  It's something that should be engrained in every single person in the US;  just don't say a word - it's really simple and yet, very difficult to most people.

@Kevin Ludlow after watching most of this channel, the #1 thing I have learned is, even if you're innocent DO NOT speak to the police before speaking to a lawyer. I mean, ESPECIALLY if you know you're guilty. Seems like a no-brainer but everyone thinks they can talk themselves out of it like they do it for a living.

@Robot Account that’s quite a broad statement you’re making fella

@Chris Smith denying something as true...doesn't make it untrue..you are clearly unaware or the world you truly live in..it its on tv..or in the history books..its a lie or theater..period

@Света Sveta we never know the full story

Black / White is part of the difference in aggressive response.

@Mayli the fact that he didn't follow up with the report they see someone of color and can easily get away with incriminating them just the way the law system was designed

@Kevin Ludlow i think the problem with this particular case is all they had on this guy was the fact that he was walking by. No witnesses, no correlation between him and the store, no nothing. It's different when they're trying to break someone they have reasons to be suspicious of.... you know?

I was so happy to find out at the end of the video that he was given $46K in punitive damages! The whole video had me so pissed off mostly to watch him stay so calm while being treated so unfairly, i wish i had that kind of emotional intelligence.

@Света Sveta anyone that wants to harm you or do anything ill to you will come with a smile they'll act like a friend criminal 101 that's why they treat people like that not saying it's justified it's Hella wrong just the way things are

@David S. Jr so? we should treat polite people as garbages because there is one monster that was polite outside? whats the idea behind your comment or are you just replying for the sake of replying?

@David S. Jr bro don't make stereotype i was nice introvert guy in my high school time. i was bullied  cuz the thoughts like you have. i was traumatized for years please keep your thoughts to yourself 🙏

@David S. Jr So your argument is pretty much the tittle of the video "guilty until proven innocent".<br>Yes, that's a great way to build a fair society, by treating everyone like the worst criminal...give me a f**king break.

@David S. Jr So your argument is pretty much the tittle of the video "guilty until proven innocent".
Yes, that's a great way to build a fair society, by treating everyone like the worst criminal...give me a f**king break.

God I've been there. That is the most terrifying feeling having to prove your innocence to arrogant stubborn jerks

hey.... listen.... since the suspect is gone then what u gonna do..... ofc apprehend the first black person u see... its basic procedure :]

@Света Sveta probably not when it's a murder investigation dude.

@David S. Jr bundy was super narcissistic tho wasnt he

well at least he got compensated and shit cop got demoted

Behavior goes along way, but perhaps we shouldn't put all our stock on that alone but good evidence.

There are confident innocent and guilty people as well as unconfident innocent and guilty people.

@David S. Jr how is it being paranoid of everyone who is nice to other people because they might be a Ted Bundy?

To police every person is a garbage. This is how they see the society.

Ted bundy was a psy op..like Charles manson..Jeffrey dahmer..Timothy mcveigh..John Wayne gacy..these are to make us fear..and make us dependent on the judicial system/police/government for our safety..

@Kevin Ludlow Ah yes I agree. If I had to do that work me and the criminals would both be crying in the interrogation room. Lol

@Worry Oh no, I definitely understood the two sides.  It's a bit of the whole "better that 100 guilty go free than 1 innocent be locked up" sort of thing vs. the opposite of that (which is certainly some people's belief too).  The good news is that the police from the first video were all disciplined and removed from their positions for the screwup.  But I was just noting how I can appreciate that it's probably a very difficult position.  I think of the Chris Watts episode JCS did, for example, and had they not broken him, they might well NOT have had the evidence to convict him.  Still, that doesn't mean anybody should be berated and to be fair, there was FAR more evidence in the Watts case - albeit still not definitive.  I guess I was more just suggesting that there are ethics that should be held dear, but at the end of the day, I can still imagine it's a difficult and uphill battle.

I think CIA's point is that just because they are kind doesn't do much for the police if they are trying to find evidence because monsters can be kind, I personally think it's better to treat people with respect because harassing the innocent is worse than being kind to a monster. They should wait till they have more to go on rather than shoot blindly and injure bystanders until they get the criminal.

@Света Sveta I'll try to steer you guys back towards civility.  Having watched JCSs entire library now, it's a tough one.  I don't think anyone should be treated like garbage, least of all by police, but it's interesting seeing how detectives DO sometimes manage to break guilty suspects, trapping them into story lines, etc. that I can imagine they might not have gotten JUST with evidence (though hard to say).  The main takeaway should always be to NEVER speak to the police without an attorney present, but I can imagine that if you're truly 100% innocent and wanting to genuinely help out that it's hard to think that.

@David S. Jr when you put it like that, it seems like we shouldn't be sorry for anyone just in case they turned out to be a monster


RIP all of the JCS case videos being deleted except for 3 :(


That is the most terrifying thing ever to be completely innocent and be imprisoned!


I would ask to see the evidence. I would also ask for a lawyer.


I am glad that the narrator put the fact that people with trauma who are innocent can have an abnormal reaction when accused guilty. I lived a childhood full of terror, where I had no right to mkae any mistake, and sometimes I'd start feeling guilty for no reason and wondering if I made a mistake that I am not aware of and that an unexpected blow off would come to me! Now in my daily life and interactions with people and work ,  even when I know I didn't do anything I still exhibit behaviours and body language of a guilty (not defend myself, become stressed and worried and obviously unconfident)! But I am working on that. That proves that there are no rules. Body language cues and reactions are not always accurate.