Police are trained to bluff, this isnt bad on its own. But when they Incentivise "cooperation" or essentially claiming you did the crime in exchange for less jail time, they can get innocent people to incriminate themselves so they dont get a WORSE punishment. Police will say things like 'we'll help you' but make this conditional of copping to the crime.

I recommend watching the famous 'Don't talk to the police' video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

@Grass Geese usually the lawyers are competent, but cannot dedicate any real time to their client. A paid lawyer can afford to focus on one case. A court appointed is not fighting with the same tools or preparation.

@Buck_shot419  now that’s unfortunate, a compensation is a must in this case and even with a compensation it’s not enough. Even where I live you can be put in chains for a long while before ending up getting cleared, you would get a compensation (thankfully) but it’s still not enough for the emotional taxation and fear of your life getting ruined. Not that I personally got into that situation but I know people who’ve been there and still are. Some things may not be removed but at least improved to a certain degree.<br>Edit: Quoting you “Guilty until proven innocent” or the opposite is absolute BS why? Because you cannot trust what a person says no matter if they are guilty or not until proven by facts. So assuming a person is guilty is absolutely retarded but that also goes for the assumption of a person being innocent. I hope you understand what I mean here and we both know that this world is filled with darkness, so hate or greed or whatever it may be overcomes the purity of life. I’m just speaking metaphorically here and not preaching.

@Buck_shot419  now that’s unfortunate, a compensation is a must in this case and even with a compensation it’s not enough. Even where I live you can be put in chains for a long while before ending up getting cleared, you would get a compensation (thankfully) but it’s still not enough for the emotional taxation and fear of your life getting ruined. Not that I personally got into that situation but I know people who’ve been there and still are. Some things may not be removed but at least improved to a certain degree.
Edit: Quoting you “Guilty until proven innocent” or the opposite is absolute BS why? Because you cannot trust what a person says no matter if they are guilty or not until proven by facts. So assuming a person is guilty is absolutely retarded but that also goes for the assumption of a person being innocent. I hope you understand what I mean here and we both know that this world is filled with darkness, so hate or greed or whatever it may be overcomes the purity of life. I’m just speaking metaphorically here and not preaching.

@Mohamed Hajry you are guilty until innocent is presumed. As a court of law decided the verdict. many many  many people spend time in jail fighting bullshit charges i spent 3month myself in chains because of false allegations. you know what i got from the whole ordeal. fired from my job, became homeless and a ohh I'm sorry your free to go now. with zero compensation for my squandered time. but hey i learned how to make a net out of plastic. so i guess i got the last laugh. Be grateful you have not been on the wrong side of the tracks as if you have not been falsely accused of a crime doesn't mean it can not happen because i will tell you what  it does. As how it works in the real world the police  decide based on the information given at that moment and a judge or jury will decide of innocent or guilt. a friend of mine had a psycho girlfriend who one day decided to throw all his musical equipment in the rain becuase he would not watch tv with her and had to work. when he came home he called the police and once the offcers arrived she fliped the table on him miniuplated the police and stared crying and sayin he hit her and bla bla bla they took him for domestic while he spent 6 month in jail she trashed his rental and racked up his credit he lost everything and the day he got out had nothing. The legal system has major flaws. don't get me started on  parley restraining orders. That shit is hella unconstitutional  seen that ruin few peoples lives for no good reason.

Everyone should watch better call Saul to respect lawyers

Everyone should watch better call Saul to respect lawyers

They got my mom with this unfortunately. Our family was poor so we couldn't afford a lawyer and the idea of a long court case was frightening both due to the price and the lost work time, and it would be months before a public defender would be available. She took the plea deal and now has a felony on her record.

@Lechiffresix six That is correct as the Bosses of the Department have quota and statistics to show that they are doing a good job. Also  the reasons for poor investigation is more convictions means increase for the Department  funding also to make the mayor and city council look like they are doing something other then embezzling public funding.  "Democracy is five wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner."

@Karnacle Blackburn 5 kids, teenage boys, were all lied to. A white womab was raped, the police didn't know who did it. They grabbed 5 black boys who didnt know each other, and said each boy said the other did it and they had evidence. So they wrote false confessions because the police told them too, and they went to jail for years. Their story is told in "When They See Us" on Netflix in five episodes i think

@Aidan Coutts was just thinking that recently. I hate when under the cops pull  " there were 2 witnesses that spotted you during blah blah" like so what? How does that strengthen the case unless the witness has evidence of you being there? Anybody could just say they saw you. And it's stupid that it makes a case look more legit  since witnesses don't even personally know you

That's illegal, where I live. A sane country.

That's illegal, where I live. A sane country.

@Matt H and the defence lawyer whose job is to defend his innocent client often convinces him to cut a plea deal. This is even more wrong!

@Aidan Coutts lol just the Dutch courage and the guy pushed my girlfriend then punched me. So I blacked out.

@Delete Existence thank you for the story. I think the people over at r/iamverybadass would appreciate the full account.

For context the offence was affray, the person I beat up could have pressed charges but didn't. They hit me first, I finished it.

They bluffed with me and said I hit someone in the head between 20-30 times (I was blacked out drunk and it was on CCTV) they wouldn't show me the tape, they just wanted me to admit guilt. I accepted guilt but stood my ground that they were making up the number, surely they can count?

@Grass Geese funny how u just assume someone’s personality from his lack of experience? Well I’m all ears since I’m not a US citizen why don’t you enlighten me? instead you go for me personally instead of my opinion, instead of having a well articulated conversation and exchange opinions and information. No wonder shit is going south in the US. Is that how it works over there?

Imagine interogating someone without any evidence... What a joke.

Imagine interogating someone without any evidence... What a joke.

@P Pumpkin Assuming what you're saying is legitimate..

DAMN

@P Pumpkin Assuming what you're saying is legitimate..

*_DAMN_*

@Brianna McCray what happened with the central park five?

@Brianna McCray what happened with the central park five?

@Gargon the Imperator No worries, i am well aware of what you meant but was unsure if you assumed something else. That is truly a difficult subject to silverline . I'm not gonna say oh that's not true or something within those lines.

 Some investigators wanna close a case and get a promotion, some make mistakes which happens as often as the former and lastly just like you said before,some juries might even go with the cops but the full scope is not clear to the outsiders, we can't ignore the fact that the system is corrupt and f* up but the individual has to at least put in some effort in not ending up in prison or walking himself into it.

 Ik what i'm saying is hard depending on the circumstances but that doesn't stop an innocent person from showing his innocence by confronting the layed out evidence even to some extent (forged evidence). Oh they found a gun in my house? okey does it have my fingerprints?  and so on,ik what i just said might sound dumb but people have tendencies to get scared if they get provoked which can turn into slipups and those can and will and are used against the individual even if it's unrelated to the case as i did say in one of the comments earlier.

It's an individual responsibility, and i could only see an innocent person getting prosecuted for those 3 points that i formerly stated (1. the person is not innocent. 2. weak personality. 3. Guilty of an unrelated minor/ crime/offense.)

As to fixing the problem with promotions and the system well that's another story that needs to be dealt with all the way to it's roots but every individual has to come to an understanding of the situation and a common ground. As i see it,the US is somewhat split appart (meaning its people), when it comes to the ego oh f* everyone else i only know me (that kind of thing) i'm not generalizing here but it is true and the majority of the system's issues are originating from individual choices/consequences.

@Mohamed Hajry that's what I meant by dodging the police. Cause as I see it, the police only care about putting someone behind bars and closing the case. So you have to dodge them and their shady tactics to dodge going into prison. Sorry I didn't clarify that better before.

@Gargon the Imperator Who said anything about dodging police ?

@Gargon the Imperator Who said anything about dodging police ?

@Aidan Coutts  I am by no means victimblaming, this world is that twisted for sure but do not tell me that the government just came out of nowhere and became a governement. Those problems you are bringing up originated from individual choices that resulted to what the system has become. Keep in mind i'm not even living in the US nor anywhere near it but i still agree with you on certain points but to me it seems like you are not grasping what i meant since my first comment. Which is individual responisibility.

Like Marquise Tibbs from Kenosha 5 years ago.

Like Marquise Tibbs from Kenosha 5 years ago.

That’s why when you get arrested, demand a lawyer, and don’t say a damn thing.

That’s why when you get arrested, demand a lawyer, and don’t say a damn thing.

@Mohamed Hajry you can't dodge police who are doing their best to pin a crime on you that you didn't commit. There are so many people falsely imprisoned out there who never stopped claiming their innocence, but cause judges and jury's tend to believe police, especially when the accused is a man, it's not that hard to get locked up for something you didn't do. So it's a very real fear for someone to panic at the thought they'll be locked up for something they didn't do, because it happens all the time. Even if you aren't convicted, you still lose a ton of your time to being jailed and questioned for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and just looking like what someonr else thinks a criminal looks like.

@Mohamed Hajry i would hope the police would know the law. Ya know? it being their job. If you force people to assume more responsibility than the literal government employees, what the hell are our tax dollars paying them for?

This victimblaming behaviour is why law enforcement has gotten away with being this inept for so godamn long.

@Aidan Coutts  Now that i understand clearly, but it's still the person's responsibility so that they don't end up there. If the governement doesn't supply you with a competent  lawyer then there is a problem.
I'm not touching the subject about the police here cause it has been already brought up that's why i was merely speaking about the individuals that find themselves in those situations.

You say fear of police incompetence? sure but if u are innocent AGAIN do you have to worry about the police being incompetent or should you instead focus on clearing yourself with a smart and proper way by learning your rights and laws? That way you will be able to dodge getting forced into prison even though you are innocent.

@Mohamed Hajry "weak personality" w/e the hell that means. Im sure in your mind, it warrants jail time.

How about fear of police incompetence and their hunger for conviction? Even if you did nothing wrong, you can still be sent to prison by a bunch of idiots. Dumb juries, cops who just want a conviction so they get promoted (dont care who did the crime) and if you are poor, good luck getting a lawyer who has any time to focus on your case.

Plenty of reason to be nervous around cops. They dont hire them for their intelligence and cool headed nature.

Do you know how many cases were thrown out and how many people were released when DNA finally busted onto the scene? That new form of solid evidence showed just how shoddy the legal system was at actually finding who did a crime. This video is not an isolated incident, in fact it's one of the rare lucky cases where the guy didnt end up going to jail for a crime he didnt commit.

The legal system has an overreliance on eye witness testimomy despite how demonstrably unreliable it was. Your legal system is not that sophisticated.

that’s why the only thing you should ever say to police is “I want a lawyer”.

that’s why the only thing you should ever say to police is “I want a lawyer”.

Always pays to remember that they aren't paid to uncover the truth, they're paid to get convictions

It doesn't matter , if u are innocent there is nothing to hide and there is nothing to be afraid of (sure the fear of prison etc is present) but as long that the person is 100% innocent there is nothing for him personally to fear. As to investigators getting innocent ppl to incriminate themselves well i could only see 3 reasons as to how it can happen (1. the person is not innocent. 2. weak personality. 3. Guilty of an unrelated minor/ crime/offense.)

No, police are permitted to outright Lie in pursuit of a confession.  They also can present just part of their evidence at Discovery and the rest must be pursued legally, in a Trial and a Trial is rare because everyone, including the lawyer for the defendant, wants the person arrested to Plea and have a Permanent Record.

@Ebon Kim they may be allowed to, but it doesnt change how horrific the results can be. It needs to change. Watch the documentary series “the confession tapes.” It should still be on netflix. Its utterly blood-chilling.

I was once stopped as a rape suspect.  I had no alibi.  i had just finished college and had changed my appearance to look clean for a job, all of my college friends had spread like the wind and I couldn't provide the addresses of any friends, my car was packed and I was ready to leave the area permenently.   Since I had just finished college I had been  partying and didn't have any idea of what day of the week it was or where I was when.  When I told the cop I had partying and last track of time he started asking me about how many drinks I had and got more suspicious.  I was even beginning to believe I had a split personality and it could have been me and was trying to figure out if it was.  I was put in a lineup - and when I wasn't identified I was let go.

that's why you shut your  mouth until you have a lawyer next to you

that's why you shut your  mouth until you have a lawyer next to you

They cant promise any sentences. Thats inadmissible in court and has caused many cases to be thrown out entirely. They dont do that anymore

I was in a situation where I was accused of writing an inappropriate letter to a female staff member-and at one point I was told that their "Handwriting expert said it was my writing."  I laughed and told them "Your lying or that guy needs to be fired"-as I did not write that letter.  "Cops" lie better than a professionally installed carpet.

Police are allowed to lie, and if they arrest an innocent person, nothing happens to them. Innocent people who tell the truth, but are accused of  lying, get arrested. If on the other hand, they lie, and are caught lying, they are arrested. It's a lose-lose situation. Always remain silent.

even if you're actually guilty, you should still wait for your lawyer before striking any such deal.

aiden, they always get innocents hooked on this even though they were all aware they dealing with a innocent person.  only goal is to close the case .


when the prosecutor knows they will lose the case in trial, they will overblow the sentence, and force the suspect to take a plea deal. Its so disgustingly corrupt.

They do that for almost all cases.  They don't have anything like the capacity to go for a full trial for all cases.

@No Context Gonzalo couldn't have said it better

everything that is run by the state is corrupt by design


“My duty is to look into this thoroughly”
Accuses first man they found of doing it
Job well done

“My duty is to look into this thoroughly”
*Accuses first man they found of doing it*
Job well done

@Josh Lips what if short white dude knows karate? Lol...

Short white dude versus tall black man!
Fight!
AOO AOO AOO
YOU LOSE!
Short White Dude Fled!

Short white dude versus tall black man!
Fight!
*AOO AOO AOO*
YOU LOSE!
Short White Dude Fled!

Ikr I was thinking the same they didn't even check the robbery call

I'm appalled they arrested him without cause. "I will need to investigate it", that's what you do before you make an arrest!


Michael seems a great person who has been brought up with impeccable manners and patience

Maybe its just genetics or very high intelligence

Virgin Wrists,( btw I have great music playlists)

I worked with Michael for a decade in the trade shows before COVID, crazy to see him on this video. He's super respectful, a hard worker, competent at his job and an overall good guy. The reason he specifically wants to phone his work to let them know he can't make it is because he would get suspended from work for a month for being a 'no show'. Just goes to show these kinds of things can happen to anyone.


The white guy with the beard Was the definition of how an innocent person would act. Frustrated confident and angry.

@Bre he had just got off the bus after  finishing work, he knew deep down they had feck all on him ,so his actions were spot on ,the ginger guy not so much .

@Lubu The white guy was facing significantly more time, given the assault claim and his prior stint in jail. The fear he exudes in the interview is palpable while the black dude was marvelously composed.

@Sigismund the Black Knight that's if anyone acts out in anger when interacting with a armed police officer. Its not just black people its anyone who does such a dumb thing

@Bre you talk as if you have insider information on why a person acted the way they did based solely on your programed views of his skin color. However without his own testimony we truly don't know what he was thinking or why he decided to stay calm. However we can use facts we do know... fact he was innocent....fact he ended up with a settlement because of the situation we witnessed....what happened to him was wrong the only way to fix it since time machines are not available is to give him money to compassionate that. He got the money so he was not denied justice. So where is privilege he's not able to access....we see a white person was in the same position in the same video but was not given money for being wrongfully accused. Both of them ended up being found innocent and tge black guy walked away with money. So I agree the black guy had a cool collective personality and was more privileged tgen the white guy by walking away with money the white guy did not get.

@Khajiit Hadwares The brown guy probably had a lot of people backing him up and demanding his exoneration. The snow white guy might have only had his mom. In addition, snow white had been to prison before, so that might have worked against his favor. Also, you have to consider that both subjects were booked in different legal systems.

@Johnfuse I don't care about the white guy or white people. You can call them whatever you want, beige, snow white, etc. It doesn't matter to me lol. :)  As for the brown guy, he is clearly brown by color scale, he certainly doesn't talk like an average black guy, and as for facial and body features, I am not sure what is racial makeup is. However, he clearly looks mixed, hence why he is brown.

@The Viking Nobody is saying otherwise. What's your point?

@The Viking Nobody is saying otherwise. What's your point?

What I dont understand is how did the bearded guy that acted the way innocents would act get imprisoned, but the guy that acted abnormally calm for a innocent got off clean?  Doesnt that disprove your whole "I can read people"?  Why even interrogate if you know the other details are priority, and not this confession under duress BS. Bearded guy was nervous for good reason, thinking ahead, and has been imprisoned before. None of that mattered, yet the interrogation and putting a nervous person under stress makes a person appear guilty, what a surprise.

nah its not. everyone is different and acts different. no matter race or age u cant put it in a simple group

@Bre This situation between a lower class white dude and an upper class black dude? Yeah the upper class black dude absolutely has more privilege in the justice system, because he's upper class. He can afford bail, he can afford a good lawyer, he can afford to miss work, he likely has a clean record from living in an upper class area with lower crime. That's <i>class privilege,</i> there's more to privilege than just race. Just because a black dude doesn't have white privilege doesn't mean he has no privilege at all. Isn't that what intersectionality is all about in social justice? The concept that privilege is complex and not just high score point system?

@Bre This situation between a lower class white dude and an upper class black dude? Yeah the upper class black dude absolutely has more privilege in the justice system, because he's upper class. He can afford bail, he can afford a good lawyer, he can afford to miss work, he likely has a clean record from living in an upper class area with lower crime. That's _class privilege,_ there's more to privilege than just race. Just because a black dude doesn't have white privilege doesn't mean he has no privilege at all. Isn't that what intersectionality is all about in social justice? The concept that privilege is complex and not just high score point system?

@Bre Pedal that Social justice crap somewhere else.

@Bre Pedal that Social justice crap somewhere else.

@plug man johnson she straight up just said cause you're white you have no say on privilege LMAO

@Bre black dude way more privileged in that situation. Also kinda racist saying a white person's opinion is invalid simply because he is white 🤔

@Awakenedblue THANK YOU!!! Absolutely right!!!!!!

@Awakenedblue THANK YOU!!! Absolutely right!!!!!!

@J P yup. Here I am.. pulling the ole privilege card huh 🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭 oops. I triggered ya? Oh well

@J P yup. Here I am.. pulling the ole privilege card huh 🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭 oops. I triggered ya? Oh well

@d al like I said... privilege has ALOT to do with it. Sadly a lot of you guys don’t see that because YOUR privilege blinds those lines. Why argue about it? Because you know I’m right and you feel personally attacked?? Lmao

@Austin Garner lmao why you mad AUSTIN???

@Austin Garner lmao why you mad AUSTIN???

@plug man johnson LMFAO! Okay sir. Sure. Black guy has more privilege lmao coming from a white guy.

The BLACK GUY IS INNOCENT TOO! He just has a calmer disposition!

The BLACK GUY IS INNOCENT TOO! He just has a calmer disposition!

@BadlndsBob I understand that is scary, however it is logical they use indicators as well. If a certain response is given by guilty people 9/10 times, it is perfectly logical to use that knowledge. It shouldn't be evidence, but it can be used as an indicator if it is feasible to further investigate the possibillity they do have the perpetrator.

Black guy who is smart. He is intelligent enough to know if he raises his voice to a corrupt cop, he will  be charged with more injustice. He heard the stories. He knows of the injustices. This shouldnt be surprising that he cant act like the white guy. He cannot afford to act enraged. Those before him have been beaten and raped in jail and worse. By cops and by jailmates who cops ordered them to do so. This “justice” system is soooo f—-ed.

People act differently from others based on their personalities. But the average reaction of an innocent person is getting frustrated and upset. But obviously not everyone is like that! And that can make an innocent person look guilty and interrogators go by what they see and how that looks based on assumption that they are guilty. The point of an interrogation is never to find whether you guilty or innocent, it’s to get a confession of guilt whether you did it or not. You’re fecked the second you enter that room.

@Bre ahahahah why do people say shit like that. Black people are black....... thats not racist......

I've come to the conclusion I can't tell if a person is lying.  If they were to change their story, then yeah.  But just from listening to them, I can't tell.  If I was forced to make a guess about it, I'd say the bearded guy is aggressive enough to have committed aggressive crimes like burglary and assault.

U wanna change shit first place to start is cops lying about having evidence.

U wanna change shit first place to start is cops lying about having evidence.

@Bre privilege has nothing todo with it, they didn't believe either guy was innocent...if anything the black guy was treated better as the white one was handcuffed while the black one was not. So where is the privilege... the black guy was clear headed and got justice...he spent 3 days in jail for $46,000 settlement....if privilege was real why did they white guy not get a settlement.... people are treated unfairly everyday and many times a answer as to why is not found but rarely is it solely on their race, as the black guys claim respectful attitude is what set the tone of his experience and he did have complete control of that. If he had not gotten a settlement to justify what he had to experienced it would still be a long shot but given his experience did matter and that he was compassionate I think you need to think outside of what tge media has lied to you about why things happen in life.

For years of my life, I was very introverted and didn't act like everyone else. I have never been a criminal though. That is why some of these videos scare me. I don't like the viewpoints of how innocent people "should" act. I imagine thousands of people have been wrongly convicted because they didn't act "the right way".  It is scary. I am glad that I stay out of situations where I might be accused of some crap I didn't do.

You can if you spend more time socializing than studying law or techniques.

You can if you spend more time socializing than studying law or techniques.

@Lubu I guess this whole video went over your head....

@Lubu I guess this whole video went over your head....

innocent introverts don't act like that tho and this guy was a great unfortunate example of that

innocent introverts don't act like that tho and this guy was a great unfortunate example of that

It was SO hard to watch that one! Because I was watching it then thinking like...ok if you're sitting in that chair then get angry because you're being accused of something you didn't do, like at some point if you get too angry they'll add more charges or something. Its like once you're in their hands there's literally nothing you can really do.

@plug man johnson <br>There might also be a policing culture difference as it's not only 2 different police forces but also 2 different countries.

@plug man johnson
There might also be a policing culture difference as it's not only 2 different police forces but also 2 different countries.

And still he got locked out for more than two fucking years .-.

And still he got locked out for more than two fucking years .-.

He said stuff that contradicted himself tho

He said stuff that contradicted himself tho

@Bre the white man was a previous convict. If anything the brown dude is way more privlaged. You have it completely backwards. The white dude has alot more to lose by being convicted than the black guy. Which is why the white dude is more angry and worried. Has nothing to do with skin color

@Bre It's a personality difference. Case closed. Has fuck all to do with his skin colour.

@Bre It's a personality difference. Case closed. Has fuck all to do with his skin colour.

@Boiko Petrov what does black on the inside mean tho? Asking for a friend...

@Boiko Petrov what does black on the inside mean tho? Asking for a friend...

@Lubu <br>I don’t think the white guy lost it. He wasn’t unreasonable or threatening so...

@Lubu
I don’t think the white guy lost it. He wasn’t unreasonable or threatening so...

@Girl Idk probably some level of psychopathy, sounds crazy but he just got charged with robbing a jewelry store and didn't seem to give a fuck

Im a white guy.I got questioned and charged for what one of my high school buddies did. I looked guilty as hell..lol  My buddy finally confessed so they backed off.  Got pulled over once when I was in my early 20s.The cop said "Son,why are you acting so nervous?"  I said  "Cause a cop just pulled me over."   Now that im older I dont give a F.

@lumberjack potato potata.. Whether you are brown or black you are still
Black in society.. And their is no problem with that. I’m proud to be BLACK and I’m proud to be BROWN. Their is no
Negative connotation when I call someone black until someone tries to make it that way themselves.

@Lubu for sure based on personality but also privilege like I mentioned. Not trying to cause an argument.. but we are both absolutely right.

i react like the white guy when i get caught in a dumb but plausible lie... you and I, and sometimes even investigators, can't reliably read other people.

@Bre it really is a personality diffrence Just like how the Analyst explained it. Both victims didnt know if they would get more repercussions or not. The white guy lost it while the Black guy stayed calm.

Black guy simply doesn’t act out of anger because he knows if he does he may get more repercussions. He’s innocent to begin with so best thing is to try and stay clam..It’s based on personalityand privilege honestly.

@Girl Idk haha I said Definition, that dont mean everybody is like that. But he is definetly the definition of it


Is the Interrogator fired or got demoted?? It's such a dumb rookie fucking mistake geez


I don't get it though... the narrator said about Michael "every detail of his alibi was later been proven 100% accurate". Doesn't police check the alibis and the available security cameras before going into a interrogation with this much force and accusations? Are some of the policemen That horrifyingly incapable?


Holy crap canadians are polite. "I'm not trying to give you a hard time while you're falsely accusing me"

@Tarekkr Well hello there. Nice DP you have.

@FACE He didn't believe he was going to jail, cause if they followed up on anything that he said, it would prove his innocence

@Subtle Autism I say that so often, and I've never had a drink in my life... It takes effort for me to say it correctly. I thought this was America! LOL

For him, his innocence is a simple follow up on the info he's given them. So while it's an inconvenience, it's not that big a deal.

Tell that to the First Nations, they’re only polite if you’re white

Intelligent anxious people tend to be nice people.


Suspect: short white man
Cops seeing a tall black man: “Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!”

Suspect: *short white man*
*Cops seeing a tall black man:* “Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!”

@Mental Popcorn perfect description, although referring to the “system” i wasn’t remotely talking about law enforcement by the way if that was the confusion 😁

@Alec Windmiller they probably used a facepalm because the narrative that the system is racist takes an idiot to believe, it's kind of pointless to explain it to those people, but I'll try anyways. It was the police officers personality and traits that caused this, not the system itself. It was even mentioned it's standard practice to review the dispatch call, which this officer either did not do or ignored.

It's kind of like communism, good on paper bad in implementation. But then what do you do? Get rid of the police altogether?

Every one of these 6 cops who made the arrest should be fired. They obviously are not fit to serve as a cop. I'm sure candidates who are blind normally don't get accepted by the police academy. It's beyond me how they managed to pass the physical tests.

@J T im just backing out of the conversation since youtube wasn’t built for politics.

@Alec Windmiller  the fact that that’s all you have to say should show you it’s not.

@Alec Windmiller  if you’re saying the system is racist than you are in fact being a victim.

@J T haha, i wasn’t being a victim, i was letting people know that this comment isn’t racist and THEY need to stop being victims

@Alec Windmiller  I hope that means you’ll wake up and strive for the American dream and stop being a victim

@Alec Windmiller  awwh you thought that was to change your mind. I’m just telling you you’re wrong no evidence supports that ridiculous claim. Turn off the news they’re lying to you.

@lalala lalala  don’t need to. Turn off the news they’re lying to you.

@J T go watch some documentaries and then come back

@Matt Taylor are you sureeee you see it..... Watch again lol

@Matt Taylor this video has more than one person in it you know lol not just the thumbnail

I was put into a locked facility for druggies in San Antonio  Tx. Because of corrupt Sherriff. I know how this feels

@W4r Galactic <b>read previous reply</b>

@W4r Galactic not entirely. mainly just specific aspects of it, judicially primarily.

@J T hm, i completely change my mind since you used a facepalm emoji.

@Alec Windmiller the police system isn’t racist 🤦🏻♂

@Alec Windmiller I mean its Canada plus it's the white guy they got but idk big thing to me is still they got wrongly arrested both of them

@Nurul Midah of course! that's the police system for ya! this specific comment was not racist, but the system is.

He looks mixed and on the lighter side tho, but can't imagine someone saying he is "white"


I had an ex girlfriend, when I left her, she made all sorts of false accusations against me, I remember sitting through an interview just like this, trying to profess my innocence, they were treating me like a complete scumbag.

I was held for 22 hours, moved back up to the other side of country in a seemingly deliberately uncomfortable van.

They took my finger prints, looked at me like was evil, woke me up continuously throughout the middle of the night in my cell, some weird humming noises were even played through a speaker into my cell, so I couldn't relax.

Nothing I said, no matter how logical would be listened to.

It's a really shit experience.

Even my parents didn't believe my innocence.

The only reason I got let go, is because she sent me text messages saying "I'll drop the charges if you come back to me etc*..."

Even then, after they let me go, and months, later I got a phone call from the police saying that all charges were dropped etc*, the guy on the phone, I could tell didn't believe that I was innocent and I had somehow coerced my ex into dropping the charges.

It's not right that someone can just claim your guilty of something and you get treated this way, but I don't know a solution to stopping this from happening to others.

The experience has given me a really negative view of authority figures.

*corrected

@Tanaphar Plus Masks

Now, you've shown yourself to be dishonest.

I told you where the strawman was.

I'm not running away, I'm disinterested in speaking to someone who is intentionally dishonest and manipulative.

What do I get out of it?

👋🏻

@Tanaphar Plus Masks

Right, so you presented no evidence, and just presented more claims.

You also sprinkled in a touch of straw man fallacy in there to spice up your comment.

You didn't understand what I was saying, and missed the point entirely, I can see I'm not going to get anywhere debating with you, so I'm not going to try.

Arguing with an intellectual is difficult, arguing with a fool is impossible.

That's modern feminism.  A woman's word is believed 100x stronger and more reliable than a man's word.

That's modern feminism.  A woman's word is believed 100x stronger and more reliable than a man's word.

@Tanaphar Plus Masks you're largely right, except that we could drastically reduce innocent convictions by changing the way police operate and reducing the bias of the system. A large proportion of jurors don't even know the principle "innocent until proven guilty"!

@Tanaphar Plus Masks

What objective evidence have you got that 'by large people don't get accused unless they are guilty' that you can demonstrate?

To make such claims you need to have statistical data, other wise, you're just spreading misinformation.

Our species isn't productive, we are only 0. 7 on the Kardashev scale, we are massively unbalanced in our global economy, our energy consumption out weighs our means and corruption is rife in every nation.

We are ruled by liars, politicians lie, it's their job to lie.

I'd say you're very naive if you honestly think that the majority of humanity are honest to a fault.

Everywhere you look, the evidence is insurmountable that our species is deeply immoral and inefficient.

@gracefool exactly my point without these manipulated women the government wouldn’t have a job. Notice how many men don’t call the cops for anything. They want women to keep doing this so men can pay for lawyers, bonds, probation, classes. This is reality! And us men need to start protesting just how these women did back in the 70’s for there rights. I’m done with feminist, women who falsely accuse men, and women who want to get revenge against there husband!

@gracefool

That's a very good point, the polar opposite could be said for any Islamic country, where women don't get a vote, and are worth a quarter of a man in court.

I'd say we have it better here, even with the current system though, Sharia law is abhorrent.

Y'all need to realise that the purpose of modern government is to replace husbands and fathers with tyrants. Believing women with no evidence is a feature of the system. Women are easily manipulated and government gets half their votes from them. Why would they do anything to make women's life harder? Why would they reduce their support of women against men when it's the source of their power? Especially for the left - in the US married men vote 85% Republican.

@Bedsick Hobo hey what’s up man. Yes man stay single. I’m trying to get this done with my lawyer. It just sucks it has to go this way. Remember this quote man “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”. A woman is different when she had revenge on her mind

They have to work that way. Otherwise bad people slip through cracks. The things women you know intimately can do to you by just saying something is crazy thou.

They have to work that way. Otherwise bad people slip through cracks. The things women you know intimately can do to you by just saying something is crazy thou.

I've been through this shit as well. Served almost 4 months in county after an ex kicked me and punched me in the face, THEN the bitch broke my cellphone and threw it in my face. Georgia Power heard the commotion and I got arrested. over 105 degrees that day, in the squad car with windows up, no AC, I tried kicking them out to breathe. I ended up pleading "Guilty" after serving around 3 months, 3 weeks. They tarnished my reputation, my rights, my pride, my record, and trust for nothing...even though I haven't nor will I ever harm a female unless it's a dire straight type deal, God forbid.  I'm sorry for everyone that has suffered this way, are going through the process, or are in volatile situations/relationships. Leave while you can.   🤘🖤

Save every text conversation you’ve ever had with any woman. Same with their emails. And if they start to threaten or manipulate you, find out if you live in a one party consent state, for it may be legal to record them secretly while you talk on the phone. I went through a divorce where she was constantly threatening to charge me with “abuse“. Started keeping records of everything. Now I even keep text conversations with casual hook ups in case of false rape accusation or any other BS. If my phone gets too full, I download texts in bulk  to my laptop.

@apology girl <br>And I think “everyone knows” that the police are much harsher in dealing with accusations against men by women than vice versa.

@apology girl
And I think “everyone knows” that the police are much harsher in dealing with accusations against men by women than vice versa.

@J H

 its your job to know who your getting into,  know who you are getting in a relationship with and if they would do something like that, learn there personality before.

it's also interesting how you lack seeing your surrounding. boy vs girl doesnt go into men sexualizing everything, anyone knows that weather you hate women or hate men that men tend to sexualize everything women or whatever they're into.

@apology girl  It’s a gender specific thing. As far as I know, there has never been a case of a couple breaking up, and the man going to the police to charge the woman for a series of bogus charges, the police automatically believing the man, arresting the woman, and severely mistreating her in jail. All this while also reaching out to the woman’s boss in an attempt to have her fired.

If something like that has happened, or is even possible in our police system, it doesn’t happen remotely as often as it does to men.

Edit: It is also interesting how you criticize the OP and people in general for making everything a “boy vs girl” thing, then broadly say that men sexualize everything.

This is how the justice system is broken. Its innocent until PROVEN guilty. And that goes for EVERYONE. Every single case is supposed to be innocent  until PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

This is how the justice system is broken. Its innocent until PROVEN guilty. And that goes for EVERYONE. Every single case is supposed to be innocent  until PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

@Austin Garner its a picture on Pinterest. and even if they were mine thats gross af bc there just socks ofc men sexualize everything!

@Austin Garner its a picture on Pinterest. and even if they were mine thats gross af bc there just socks ofc men sexualize everything!

Was the judge’s defense, “why would she go out if her way to lie.” People who haven’t experienced this sort of thing, and are super pro cops, in constantly defending them, are naive.

Was the judge’s defense, “why would she go out if her way to lie.” People who haven’t experienced this sort of thing, and are super pro cops, in constantly defending them, are naive.

Agreed! People like that are the ones who ruin it for the rest of us! The narrative they push us believe all women regardless... No! It should be believe the evidence, do an investigation! Sorry you went through that.😟

Agreed! People like that are the ones who ruin it for the rest of us! The narrative they push us believe all women regardless... No! It should be believe the evidence, do an investigation! Sorry you went through that.😟

@Dave Chrome nah you’re good man. I’ve had this account for a long time 😂 and plus I wouldn’t put my real name in social media lol. Yeah man it suck, but I’m fixing this. Got text messages, videos, and audios proving my innocence

@apology girl  The double standards, for both sides, are ridiculous. We need to stop making it a gender thing and start making examples of these people who lie to ruin others' lives by locking them up and throwing away the key. This shit will never end, otherwise.

@LeviHB Shocking viewpoint. Investigators, whether police or others in the judiciary process, should not believe anything. Once someone starts to believe, proper investigation stops. That's how so many innocent people are convicted and how so many guilty are never even seriusly investigated.

@Dave Chrome federal agent=United States border patrol. Us customs and border protection. You think this is funny?

@Dave Chrome federal agent=United States border patrol. Us customs and border protection. You think this is funny?

@Senai Habte breaking up is hard.... I was vilified by my ex’s family.. awful experience took me a while to defend myself.. not sure why I bothered but it seemed like I needed to

@Senai Habte breaking up is hard.... I was vilified by my ex’s family.. awful experience took me a while to defend myself.. not sure why I bothered but it seemed like I needed to

@Joshua K

My family believed I was guilty, because behind my back, she had been sending them emails, pretending to be me.

Then, whilst she was doing that, she was bitching about how I didn't even get a phonecall on Christmas or my birthdays from my family.

I ran off with her, when I was quite young, and she managed to trick me into thinking I was outcast by my family, my sister believed me, because she could see that the emails weren't written how I would write them.

I read a few of the emails, she was saying all sorts of messed up shit, whilst pretending to be me, things like I hate all of my siblings and wished they were dead etc...

I didn't have my own phone at the time, either, so my family had no other way of contacting me other than email, which I never even thought to check up on, because I had no Internet access, other than her iPhone 3, Even so, she was smart and deleted all the emails as she went.

Honestly, I was completely blind to all of it. Rose tinted glasses 😔

Everybody this is happening to me. No matter who you are if a woman files a police report you are done! They will believe everything she will say. A day before I was suppose to be a federal agent and my ex filed a police report to me. To get back revenge. People if you see this comment please please DO NOT SPEAK TO THE POLICE!!!!

That's so fucked up, I guess the only way to avoid something like that is to try and not get involved with people capable of that behavior. Not that that's easy, or even possible if you're an unlucky person :(

That's so fucked up, I guess the only way to avoid something like that is to try and not get involved with people capable of that behavior. Not that that's easy, or even possible if you're an unlucky person :(

Wow, your story matches mine so well. Even the 22 hours when they could have actually interviewed me within an hour. I was completely innocent and treat like dirt. Medication deliberately witheld too. It was hell. Even rang my boss in a clear attempt to lose me my job. I learned that complete innocence is no protection whatsoever!

@Young Irish wait who are you replying to?

@Young Irish wait who are you replying to?

You mean you attacked someone's person or property and they didn't side with you based on political belief alone? Judging from your insistence to base "everything" on political affiliation rather then something biological, I would be willing to bet that's closer to the truth. The irony is wasted here.

I just hope you don’t see every figure of authority as a form of corruption, I do understand corruption exist in law enforcement, I just fully hope that you’ll meet a cop who actually wants to follow the law, and not be a bigot towards the people, like you

Well, my dad is a state trooper, even though I do understand there is corruption in law enforcement, I know my dad isn’t one of them, he’s in the job because he truly wants our community to be safe, and he himself even said that if someone goes rogue in his department, he reports them, because he doesn’t want to work with “dirty cops”.

And that’s female privilege man it’s a really terrible thing

And that’s female privilege man it’s a really terrible thing

@MubashirullahD

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try and work towards something though!

@MubashirullahD

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try and work towards something though!

This is why you keep records when you got a shifty girlfriend around.

This is why you keep records when you got a shifty girlfriend around.

@Prettycroatian

https://www.beedictionary.com/common-errors/ect_vs_etc

You are right.

Goes to show, how the Internet has fostered an ability to mainstream errors.

@Prettycroatian

https://www.beedictionary.com/common-errors/ect__vs_etc_

You are right.

Goes to show, how the Internet has fostered an ability to mainstream errors.

You SHOULD have a negative, mistrusting view of any authority figure, law enforcement wise.  They are never your friend unless they have to be due to their duty. Their duty is to find anything they can get on you, true or false.

You SHOULD have a negative, mistrusting view of any authority figure, law enforcement wise.  They are never your friend unless they have to be due to their duty. Their duty is to find anything they can get on you, true or false.

@British Wrath omg really sorry lol that’s so weirdddd I’m gonna change my pfp just for that man

@British Wrath omg really sorry lol that’s so weirdddd I’m gonna change my pfp just for that man

@iGirl

You made me jump there, your profile picture looks a lot like my ex girlfriend 😅

Funny coincidence

@iGirl

You made me jump there, your profile picture looks a lot like my ex girlfriend 😅

Funny coincidence

@Rachel Dolezal

The definition of faith is accepting something is true, without evidence.

Faith is just a polite way of saying the you are fooling yourself into believing.

Faith has never been a reliable tool to find truth.

@Rachel Dolezal

The definition of faith is accepting something is true, without evidence.

Faith is just a polite way of saying the you are fooling yourself into believing.

Faith has never been a reliable tool to find truth.

Had a similar experience in a small town in Kahoka missouri, the cops fucking proceeded to harass and constantly arrest me telling me i had a warrant...  They printed their shit in the news paper causing me to be run out of town no one would rent to me or hire me... I was homeless for years after that... They tried to destroy my life.

@LeviHB i support the idea, but i feel like the slogan is worded poorly, same goes with "defund the police" and "all cops are bastards"... though i believe that the initial idea behind "believe all women" was intrinsically related to "metoo", as in we shouldn't default to dismissing sexual assault allegations against celebrities especially if we like or respect said celebrities, instead we should give both sides equal credibility in their claims even if one party has more social status than the other... not sure that it was meant for regular joe shmoe people

@Rachel Dolezal What I mean is they shouldn't just assume she's lying without investigating. Believe them initially, investigate etc, then change your belief to be based on what the evidence is, then finally later on whatever the court decides. That's what I meant.

@LeviHB
Also the definition of belief is accepting that something is true. So in that first paragraph you are also saying “Police should believe all women but not accept that it is true.” Which could also be said “Police should accept that it is true but not believe” or it could also be said “Police should accept that it is true but should not accept that it is true.” Or “Police should believe all women but not believe all women”
All four of those sentences mean exactly the same thing since all we are doing is switching the definition for the word.

Do you understand how absolutely psychotic that sounds?

@LeviHB
You said two opposing things in the same paragraph. “Police should believe all victims of sexual assault are telling the truth” and “Should the police and courts automatically accept that it’s true? No that should be based on the investigation.”

So let me get this straight. Police should believe all victims. But they should also not believe all victims...

@Lean That depends. The common way I've seen that used is that the police should believe all women and investigate the alleged crime. Not that we should automatically accept it as true.

Should police automatically believe that all victims of sexual assault are telling the truth? Of course and they should investigate it fully. Should police and courts automatically accept that it's true? No that should be based on the investigation.

Of course there are some insane people who think you should take their word entirely and just prosecute the other person. But I can find those insane people in any group. A group advocating for better treatment of men in custody cases? I could find an advocate that believes women should have no say in custody cases. A free speech group? I could find someone in that group who thinks it should only apply to them, or the other way around and thinks it should apply to even things like immediate calls of specific violence.

This is why attitudes like #believeallwomen are so fucking damaging to decent, moral, hard working men.

This is why attitudes like #believeallwomen are so fucking damaging to decent, moral, hard working men.

@LeviHB that is also the reason why I ( a woman ) get pissed everytime girls bring up the " white male priviledge/ patruarchy" thing. What evil patriarchy is that where you break a man and then blame him for breaking you? It's horrid.

@British Wrath Good, just making sure you know what to do in the future.

She sounds abusive and controlling, making the other person feel guilty/at fault/getting them to come back is very common for abusers.

@British Wrath Good, just making sure you know what to do in the future.

She sounds abusive and controlling, making the other person feel guilty/at fault/getting them to come back is very common for abusers.

@Naatskie💯

About a year later, she tried to get hold of me again, saying she REALLY needed to talk to me.

I blocked the social media account she had made just to send me a message, I didn't even read it all, was an essay's worth.

Why would I give her any head space, you guys don't even know that half of what that 'girl' was like, sociopathic control freak is an understatement.

But, naivety and rose tinted glasses kept me with her for too long.

@LeviHB

I was extremely naive back then.

Lessons learned, I'm stronger due to the experience, a lot less trusting too.

@LeviHB

I was extremely naive back then.

Lessons learned, I'm stronger due to the experience, a lot less trusting too.

Wow, your ex-girl is really crazyyyy..its evil behaviour. Its sick to think u take her back after going thru u went thru..but she thought that. She was hoping for that. Wtf, how sad and simple and evil can u be?

Wow, your ex-girl is really crazyyyy..its evil behaviour. Its sick to think u take her back after going thru u went thru..but she thought that. She was hoping for that. Wtf, how sad and simple and evil can u be?

Dude you need to ask for a lawyer immediately. Don't answer anything. Say you want a lawyer and they have to stop questioning you.

Dude you need to ask for a lawyer immediately. Don't answer anything. Say you want a lawyer and they have to stop questioning you.

That sucks. My ex filed a restraining order after breakup with false accusations. Was granted because I didn’t have texts to defend myself as I deleted her off my phone to move on. I was treated guilty from the start, judge wouldn’t even listen to me.

Homegirl can be a witch until the cops come. Then all of a sudden she becomes the weeping victim. The cops will always go directly for the man. Always. In fact, there's a video on that too. The only thing that saved the man from being arrested was I witnesses and their video of her following him and beating him while he's trying to get away.

He took the beating and never laid a hand on her. Yet she was perfectly OK, with the cops arresting him for crime of abuse, which he never committed.


Wow that dude is a saint. Cops fucked up big time.


Witness: "It's a small white man"<br>Officers arresting a tall black guy: "Reverse psychology, I learned that one in college"

Witness: "It's a small white man"
Officers arresting a tall black guy: "Reverse psychology, I learned that one in college"

@Kyle no. I see your point. Its a moot point. People choose to be cops.

@Kyle no, actually buddy, one of my favorite guys is a statey where im  from, trained me in MMA and Jiu Jitsu for a while. Great guy,

But if you have a sandwich that's 90% shit, and a slice of ham, do you have a ham sandwich with shit, or a shit sandwich with ham?

And i tell ya, every interaction with a cop i've had with cops that weren't my coach, they were shitty.

@Joshua that was no "beaureacratic nonsense" please dont make excuses. It was flat out racism

I was looking for this comment. I was like dude come on.. I was getting mad for him honestly.

@Julian Galindo sure, for a beat cop.... But a detective position usually has collegiate requirements associated with the job position... some states don't have that requirement but I'm pretty damn sure Canada would, considering their outlook on education that being said it seems like this detective was just in desperate need of pace closures for their quota or some other bureaucratic nonsense is the only reason I can fathom for him completely ignore the evidence at hand.

@Spoop in usa ? You need like a 6-8 month course. A physical test and a mental health test, thats it.

People going into their careers after online learning all 2020-2021😭😭😭

@Tay Who high quality education and college I see

Small white man is actually a codename for tall black guy.

@Fallen king What? Do you think people can just graduate high school and immediately become a cop?

@Babe Root Actually, all police officers graduated high school or got a GED. Police Academy is also considered a college. Things would be much worse if the job requirements were the same for working at McDonald's.

Lol. The funniest part...is where you imply a cop went to college. Lol. Most barely graduated from high school.

@CharlieMason I thought your username was CharlesManson for a second.

In college.... freshman year of high school

Tay Who you mean like to learn to become a police? Cus-

@Hola Girlso  they attend like 3 years of college 🤦🏻♀

@Fallen king yes, they do. That's not an American officer.

CharlieMason surely they’d have to have been in college

Are you implying a cop went t o college? ;)


“I’ve done everything in my power to stay out of the penitentiary man, and this is bullshit!” I have never been to jail or prison, but I felt that.

@Osama bin Diesel maybe it’s because they thought you were related to osama bin laden so they didn’t treat you right?

I’ve been to the joint 8 days and nights, worst experience of my life. Felt like 3 months had passed and was only out in the sunlight for an hour in that time. Funny thing is the CO’s were more threatening than the inmates, like they were seriously trying to hurt you for no reason. ACAB

@Derek _
 HA!
 I know the feeling, bud.
 I have a very handsome youngest son, gets hit on all the time. I told him not to get mad, just politely tell them you like girls and walk away.
 That wouldn't work in the big lockup.

@George that’s the oddest shit I’ve ever heard

I’ve been to jail twice but as a pretty boy looking dude I do whatever I can to stay out of prison..

@Baby Driver One cannot just 'forget PTSD.'

I been arrested and jailed 3 (4?) times in my life.
 Never prosecuted.
 Why?
 Because it was all BULLSHIT.

@Alex C Yes I obviously know that.

That also makes jail likely worse because unlike prison, there aren't nearly as many protective regulations for inmates as prison. He was a jailer in Arpaio's jail too.

@George jail is where you go if you have a short sentence or youre awaiting trial, so your cousin isnt right or hes seen something strange. Career criminals with long sentences go to prison.

@David Kilburn thank you, I know Yahuah will bring them home, he gave me dreams of all of this before it happened, and he has given me dreams they will be returned. It just sucks that cps hasn't let me see them since they were taken on October 28, 2019, and I haven't been able to speak to them since May 16 last year.

@The Scenarios Jesus. What a horrific story. Thank you for sharing, and I truly hope things get better and with my soul I hope all the best for your children.

@David Kilburn first time my brother was arrested because he spanked my nephew, cops threatened my sister with cps removing her kids if she didn't press charges, second time, he was teaching my homeschooled at the time kids, about usnea (not sure how to spell it) a plant that grows on trees and is antibacterial, antiviral and kills cancer, the pigs (who I think set him up) showed up with a warrant to arrest my ex husband, whom my father has a ppo against, and the pigs knew he wasn't allowed on the property, anyway, they saw the usnea and claimed it was pot, while he was out on bond, they obviously beat the shit out of him for nothing, then tazed him in cuffs, in front of my children, almost trampling my 1 year old at the time, cps then used my kids witnessing police brutality as a form of 'abuse and  neglect' on my part, somehow that was my fault, and they took my kids. About 3 weeks after he got out I delivered a baby at the hospital, cps had an emergency hearing (different father) and claimed 'improper  supervision' at the hospital and took him 6 hours after he was born, so my brother made a Facebook post, yes a Facebook post, saying that we all need to get together and take down the corrupt government.... Again the cops came and said he was a terr-or-ist, beat the shit out of him again, arrested him and he sat in jail with a 500 k bond, for 6 months, a child (under 13) rapist had a 150k bond and only sat for 3 months..... Same judge for both of them..... Then this last time, we were out on our side by side and a cop pulled us over because 'he didn't know us,' and 'we were on the side of the road,' which is legal on the road we were on, so after we proved that we informed the officer there was nothing else he could ask us, nor could he continue the stop because his suspicion had been satisfied, he didn't like that, so he called for backup and they ended up beating the shit out of my brother after sicking the dog on him and shooting him with the riot gun, because he 'violated probation' by 'being in an off-road  vehicle.' The cops here are so corrupt and have a personal vendetta against our family......

@David Kilburn my brother has had the shit beat out of him and unlawfully arrested 4x, tazed after being cuffed 3 of those times, and this last time, was attacked by the cop dog, shot with a riot gun and 5 guys ganged up on him..... And to top it off, they recently arrested my elderly parents 81 & 60, for demanding to see a warrant before allowing police in the home, the police said it was in the car, which we knew was a lie, and decided to shove their way in anyway.... A month later the cops come back and arrest them.... Like wtf?

@The Scenarios that fuckin rough man. I can’t imagine the way that would make you feel inside. So fucked up.

@George that is awesome! I didn't have the money for a lawyer, I presented myself and got the cases dismissed....

@The Scenarios I was unlawfully accused/investigated for a serious crime too. Fortunately I managed to find a lawyer pretty quickly who uncovered the misconduct almost immediately.

Being unlawfully arrested, and charged, scars you, I have PTSD from being unlawfully arrested and charged 5x now..... Imagine that, the same force, making the same mistakes over and over.

@ramsy420 My cousin worked at a county jail and said the exact opposite of you: Jail is awful, but Penitentiary isn't as bad.

Think of jail as holidays, the pen is a concentration camp

jail aint it bruh and prison is different different


youtube stop. bring back the other videos!


Honestly. Every time a cop says that he’s got “evidence” they are reaaaally reluctant to actually show it to you. Something which as far as I know is your right

@QuantumXFluxMD first of all, what typo?<br>Second of all, you also used "your" instead of "you're", which is one of the first things you learn when learning English and is not a hard concept to grasp whatsoever which is what makes it that much more painful

@QuantumXFluxMD first of all, what typo?
Second of all, you also used "your" instead of "you're", which is one of the first things you learn when learning English and is not a hard concept to grasp whatsoever which is what makes it that much more painful

@Ur mom Coming from a YouTube username with a literal typo in it, I don't think I'm concerned what my "grammar" does to you<br>Esp considering that my only mistake was I used their instead of they're once.

@Ur mom Coming from a YouTube username with a literal typo in it, I don't think I'm concerned what my "grammar" does to you
Esp considering that my only mistake was I used their instead of they're once.

@QuantumXFluxMD your grammar physically pains me

If they had enough they would charge you and throw you straight in jail and forget about you til court came. Anytime your being spoken to, there's simply not enough.

its always a bluff. If they did have evidence, they would use it against them by letting them speak n contradicting themselves with what they have.

You have the right to know the evidence against you yes, and that's what the trial procedure is for. Besides, the cops aren't the people you fight the charges with. There is no point  to ever try and convince a cop you're innocent. It can only hurt your situation.

@T G  exactly, there's a great lecture about that. It's incredible how confessions remain important to this day and can impact so much a verdict. Michel Foucault wrote a lot of interesting things about the history of confessions.

It is in the court system, but not necessarily in the interrogation room. The interrogation is to gather evidence for the police. That's why EVERY lawyer says NEVER, under any circumstance, ESPECIALLY if you're innocent, talk to the police without a lawyer present. Once it goes to the DA, that's when evidence must be presented.


This interrogator frustrates me so much. Not that I have ever been trained in interrogation or have any idea of what he's doing, but the mind games are so obvious. "The question isn't if you did it but why." Dude, zip it. The cop sounds afraid. He stumbles over his words, interrupts the man, tells obvious bluffs. Shouldn't you be trained to read the room and know that that tactic will not work? I can barely watch it. It's so heart-wrenching.

What if the real psycopaths are the interrogators that will do anything to get promoted.

@AngryTwxGaming and I suppose your brain couldn’t handle the fact that the 911 call described the suspect as a short white man but there’s a tall black man sitting in front of that detective.

@Arto Harto I think the thing that affects my conclusion the most is the fact that the caller to 911 literally said it was a short white man not a 6’3 black man sitting in that room. Or did you miss that part?

Then they hold you for as long as needed, refuse to give you food or water, and coerce them into a confession. And that's not a myth. So many people that have been forced to confess a crime they didn't commit.

@hitnail halfway google reid technique and you'll know why

@Delfinen Teddyson thanks for telling me :) corrected it

@Arto Harto the joke is someone guilty would probably laugh at him internally and see through his bs.
the reason this technique would work is cause the person you're using it on is in stress and isn't capable of dissecting your bs in the moment.
Joke is an innocent person is probably more likely to stress and overlook things in such interactions, than someone who would commit a crime. doesn't that make sense?

@MinqApoc fyi, the link you post has erroneously the bracket in it; you may want to amend that to make it work.<br>Thank you for the link though

@MinqApoc fyi, the link you post has erroneously the bracket in it; you may want to amend that to make it work.
Thank you for the link though

that is the exact question EVERY detective asks.

That question is the first step of the reid technique (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_technique ) and the interrogator isn't very good at it. That technique is illegal in several european countries as far as i remember. Especially against juveniles.

@Arto Harto hey don't hit them with logic like that. Their brains can't handle it. I mean it's not like the narrator even said himself "hindsight is 20/20"

He’s trying to exert dominance and failing miserably.

How much does it affect your conclusion that you have the foresight of knowing the suspect was truly innocent


Always remember, an interrogator's job is to pin a crime down to a tangible person whose name can be placed in a book.<br>Their job is not to enforce justice and give everyone a fair chance.

Always remember, an interrogator's job is to pin a crime down to a tangible person whose name can be placed in a book.
Their job is not to enforce justice and give everyone a fair chance.

@Booxwee their worse because they will actually offer you up to the state's attorney. I've seen lawyers doing deals with the state's attorney. I get this conviction and then you owe me a favor. So this guy goes to jail but the lawyers next client gets a sweet deal or gets off scott free. The whole system is messed up. I had a case in cook county Il. as a juvenile I received 11 months for two attempt murders. The kid after me got 6 years for one attempt murder, first offense. Same lawyer. Not to mention my lawyer requested the judge because he played golf with him. Just like any profession there are always the bad ones and there's the honest hard working folks that have some high morals and beliefs and don't play that game. The police are different because the "so called good cops"  always turn a blind eye to the bad ones and to be honest that makes them even worse. I've had people in my family, friends and even enemies who have been railroaded by the police and the courts. Even with my two attempt murder charges we're somewhat bogus. The two individuals that I hurt were not only wanted by the police but we're adults at the time of the incidents and I was a juvenile. They waited three months to press charges. The town that they were wanted ended up dropping the charges because of their injuries. Then and only then did they file charges against me. At the time I believed what I was doing was right but over the years I changed my stance. No one has the right to hurt an other person. I know this is more than what you asked but I thought a little context would help out on my train of thoughts into the topic.

@Silenced Rage Alrighty, I know you dont respect police officers but what do you whink of lawyers?

This maybe a bad example but if you look at the Steven Avery case (Netflix to make a murderer) not his second conviction but his first conviction. There was no physical evidence or witnesses (other than the complaintant) just a couple of angry woman who didn't like Avery. That's all it took. 18 years later the truth finally came out. That's a long time when you're innocent of the crime your serving time for. That's real hard time. The sad part about it is that it keeps happening all over the world. The system does not work. If it did those officers and States Attorneys office should be in jail. How is there evidence if the person is innocent? Someone or someone's had to manufacture the evidence or coerced the suspect into confessing. (Sometimes under duress.

@Booxwee I respect your opinion but in america all the police/detectives want to do is place you at the scene of the crime, then they can manufacture a case with any evidence they have. I've heard a dozen cops say "I'm not interested if you're guilty or not, if we want you to be guilty we can certainly make it look that way! " There are thousands of innocent people who never confessed and sit on death row or some top tier maximum security prison for life. It's not what they know, it's what they can prove.

@Rafy Hay But it isnt enough to get a conviction, right?

@Booxwee A confession is evidence - even if made under duress.

Im no lawyer but im pretty sure youre not going to get sent to prison just because you confessed. Evidence is key, and if the investigators get a confession they can narrow in on where they search for. And they wont have to interview and search for suspects.

That is certainly true in areas where they use the Reid technique, but here in the UK for example cops arent allowed to lie to a suspect. I'm not saying they're all your mates or anything, but they are way less confrontational here.


Candy should have got the sentence the innocent man would have got.<br>She tried to put him away for 20 years on false charges.

Candy should have got the sentence the innocent man would have got.
She tried to put him away for 20 years on false charges.

@CornholioPuppetMaster If there's evidence that shows their intent was to harm against an "innocent" person instead of blindly seeking justice.

@ZenleeK yeah, but what if the accused got stoned to death. False witnesses got stoned to death for murder. As a deterrent. Hi price to pay for innocence. Which is why it costs a high price for lying in that case.

If you falsely accuse someone and they get convicted you should get at least a year in jail

Actually a similar situation happened in Poland not long ago, causing much uproar. Tomasz Komenda got wrongfully imprisoned for 18 years for a rape and murder he didn't commit in 1997. His trial was in 2004 and the main witness, Dorota P. had been arguing with Tomasz's grandmother telling her "You'll be crying because of me someday.". Overly zealous police officers and court employees took her words as prime evidence despite contrary DNA results. As soon as evidence came to the surface around 2018 that well, he didn't do it, the poor Dorota P. died of a heart attack, which is a very common cause of death for inconvenient witnesses in Poland and most of Eastern and Central Europe. The guy is free, the witness is dead, the guy who did it is having his trial postponed indefinitely because now he's old and cranky. Welcome to Poland.

For the record, I do not have suicidal tendencies.

I swear! And that 2 years in prison can really affect someone mentally, all because that girl wanted to lie

@Meatman the statement made is “Was not aware he was about to be wrongfully inprisoned for just over 2 years”. This means he was in prison for just over 2 years after this point until the case was tried. That’s wrong on so many levels

false charges like that desrves severe consequenes of trying to end a life

@Stefanny Dvorak yeah but I mean I'm not assuming my scenario is the truth. Just one of many possibilities. So I don't wanna assume anything and call for a possibly innocent person to be punished when I have little to no info

Yes, put her away for 20 years in a men's prison

The problem with that idea is that it could discourage people who've had a crime committed against them from speaking up under fear of being arrested. It would be especially hard on sexual assault/rape victims, since evidence is often a lot harder to bring to the table.

@Sexy Shrekk the guy being interviewed mentioned that the last he heard candy's boyfriend had been arrested for domestic violence (presumably against candy)

@disaster-png oh I didn’t know that he was abusive I guess I shouldn’t have jumped to conclusions without knowing the full situation my bad

@disaster-png nah I got my waifu body pillow I'm good<br>Hope she sees this bro

@disaster-png nah I got my waifu body pillow I'm good
Hope she sees this bro

@JenkhemHuffersAnonymous Is it lonely down there in your mom's basement?

@JenkhemHuffersAnonymous touch grass. Normal people don't thirst after women they've literally never seen.

@disaster-png you must be American <br>Hope she sees this bro

@disaster-png you must be American
Hope she sees this bro

@JenkhemHuffersAnonymous all I'm saying is Im not gonna make a judgement without the full context of the situation bc life is crazy and assumptions are silly. Idk what could've happened to make things go the way they did, I barely have any information about it, so I feel it's reasonable to suspend judgement. I didn't know that was an out there take.

@JenkhemHuffersAnonymous I'm a woman. A bi one but that's besides the point lol. I love how ur immediate assumption is I'm a dude thirsting after a woman I've never seen 😂. Projection is a funny thing.

It's not unlikely that her abusive boyfriend made her frame him as a cover for his abuse. given we know he was violent, he could have threatened her into compliance. That kind of thing is certainly not unheard of. I wouldn't judge her without knowing the full details of the situation personally.

What are you on about women aren't held to the same accountability as men don't joke yourself

@ZenleeK Quite a fair law. Would certainly solve the issue of false accusations wasting valuable time and resources for the judicial system

Fun fact, that was the law in Israel in biblical times. False witnesses got what they accused the person of.

@tavairus hernandez no he wasn't the video says he was about to be put away for 2 years

I disagree, she should've gotten that on top of the punishment she got for her crimes. Being that harsh on people making false accusations is the only way to stop that madness from happening.

It's even says he was put away for about 2 years that's fucking ridiculous

Exactly what I been saying this whole time, that shit ruins lives


Police: "Here's 12 men, pick one who's life you want to ruin for the next 2 years"<br>Candy: "Hmmm, let's go with this guy!"

Police: "Here's 12 men, pick one who's life you want to ruin for the next 2 years"
Candy: "Hmmm, let's go with this guy!"

The sentence was over 10 years. He got let out after only 2 years because they eventually found him innocent.

@David Vincent She probably won't, but we need vigilante justice done to her.

That tactic worked for Mike NiFong and Crystal Mangum

What happend to candy? Did she get charged for wrongful accusations?

You know that her name is spelled with a K, just has to be

@Robert Wise State will press for you most of the time. If the cops get called and somebody been beat on(and the combatants live together), somebody's goin to jail, hence the fairytale about Justin coming in and robbing/attacking them.

@Light no, once you press charges even if you drop them, if they are these kind of charges the state will continue to press charges on their own

@Robert Wise i don't get why she would "cover" it. couldn't she just have dropped the damn charges? she's either a plant or malicious, no?

I don't know, he was singing that back street boys song.

@Kostas Trikala That's exactly what the police does. 🤦♀

@Whut Dafeq Tell me why! Ain't nothing but a heartache. <br>Perolta: Oh forgot about a murder there for a sec.

@Whut Dafeq Tell me why! Ain't nothing but a heartache.
Perolta: Oh forgot about a murder there for a sec.

It wasn't random.  She picked the guy she knew from the line up.  If she had picked any one else, they would have let them go.  Police know who the suspect is in the lineup and choosing anyone else is seen as evidence that the witness is unreliable.

if i were the police 11 of the 12 guys wouldn`t even be suspects in these cases. That way you minimise this probability of someone being wrongly accused. Ok...in this case it wousn`t work.

It was nr 5. Number 5 killed my brother.

Pretty sure it was more directed than that.  I'm pretty sure sure had the intention to frame him all along. People are sick.

WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide. Take the hint, dear dennis

It's likely worse than that. My guess is that she knew about his past crimes and figured the cops wouldn't dig too deeply if the suspect had a record of the same activity.


45,000 for 3 days in jail???! Arrest me!!!! :-)

That's $15k a day. The salary of a CEO of a small to midsize company


Demoted and suspended music 🎵 to my ears straight racism


I love this video. I was once falsely accused of something and apparently me being “defensive” to the accusation meant I was guilty. People need to educate themselves and this video is great for that - well done

I never went to jail or anything but I had cops at my new apartment accusing me of being the aunt of some runaway kid... I didn't know the kid or the parents and told them over and over and they still looked at me like mam just tell us the truth about where the kid is I'm like omg I don't know them..  the next day I got a call from a detective apologizing to me.. talk about scary..I've never been in trouble my whole life and I'm 36.. they definitely treat you like you are guilty before proving innocence

I love JCS videos. He has helped me alot to learn the process.  If I'm ever guilty, lol, I'm raising hell and be really angry during interrogation because obviously innocent people are upset and surprised at the situation instead of pre-planned an answer why i shouldn't be guilty.   ;)

Taking lots of notes


For a short white man he sure is a tall black man 🤣🤣


it's unfortunate to know that the psychology of a self-reflective introvert person, who's trying to reason with the circumstances, can be easily overwhelmed by an investigator and admit to things that he/she haven't done. It's scary that it happened a lot prior to cc tv's existences, and with the lack of thorough investigation.<br>Thank you for the time you took to prepare these wonderful videos.

it's unfortunate to know that the psychology of a self-reflective introvert person, who's trying to reason with the circumstances, can be easily overwhelmed by an investigator and admit to things that he/she haven't done. It's scary that it happened a lot prior to cc tv's existences, and with the lack of thorough investigation.
Thank you for the time you took to prepare these wonderful videos.

@Cutland Springs I know that! I wasn't talking about this particular investigation.

He didn't admit to anything in this case.


I was wrongfully arrested once and I behaved more like the guy in the white shirt. It really felt like a throwback watching the guy actually.<br> I stayed really calm because I knew I did not do anything wrong and I trusted that the system would work. And my interrogator actually told me: "You are acting as if you were guilty." "How so?" "Innocent people usually get angry" (like the second guy).

I was wrongfully arrested once and I behaved more like the guy in the white shirt. It really felt like a throwback watching the guy actually.
 I stayed really calm because I knew I did not do anything wrong and I trusted that the system would work. And my interrogator actually told me: "You are acting as if you were guilty." "How so?" "Innocent people usually get angry" (like the second guy).

And If you were angry He would say innocents are calmer

I was falsely accused of a serious crime too.

I was never arrested but was interviewed/interrogated twice.

I acted the exact same way you did, calm and reassured because I know I did nothing wrong. Sorry your interrogator was pure shit.

@B. Calvin Saul don’t even answer any questions. Ask for your lawyer, don’t talk to the police. It does not make you look guilty, and speaking to the police will allow them to twist your words into something that can incriminate them.

Too much trust in the rotten system then

I feel like I would've said something like "did you forget to put your glasses on when you were reviewing that tape?" I would've been calm until the detective started playing games with me and then I'd insult his intelligence.

Maybe they know your calmness is irrelevant and just want to see how you react from being really threatened to be considered guilty, which reaction could be more relevant to them.<br>I doubt they would tell you you look guilty, just like that, because they think so, without a precise objective in mind.

Maybe they know your calmness is irrelevant and just want to see how you react from being really threatened to be considered guilty, which reaction could be more relevant to them.
I doubt they would tell you you look guilty, just like that, because they think so, without a precise objective in mind.

The end goal of those interrogations is to get a confession from you

OMG I had a VERY similar experience a few years ago. In my case the interrogator said to me “you’re acting suspicious. Truly innocent people will argue back.  Unconditional compliance is a sign of a guilty conscious.”  I did nothing wrong yet found myself in a police department in a no win situation.

I respect police, but I learned the hard way they can’t be trusted.

Like you, I am the calm, helpful, commiserate type. I know the interrogator has a difficult job and probably has people claim their innocence all the time.<br>Not after seeing this video, though. I'm going to be demanding of my lawyer and vocal of my innocence.

Like you, I am the calm, helpful, commiserate type. I know the interrogator has a difficult job and probably has people claim their innocence all the time.
Not after seeing this video, though. I'm going to be demanding of my lawyer and vocal of my innocence.

@vheiissu I am not saying otherwise, I  am actually saying that my interrogator would have agreed with the assessment that innocent people who get accused usually get angry.<br>What a weird thing, if you stay calm and try cooperate as best as you can, they think you are guilty even though calmness in my mind indicates that a person does not fear actually being punished for a crime because they now for a fact they did not commit one.

@vheiissu I am not saying otherwise, I  am actually saying that my interrogator would have agreed with the assessment that innocent people who get accused usually get angry.
What a weird thing, if you stay calm and try cooperate as best as you can, they think you are guilty even though calmness in my mind indicates that a person does not fear actually being punished for a crime because they now for a fact they did not commit one.


It’s scary to think that people can be accused of being guilty <b>without</b> any proof but you can’t be innocent until there’s proof.

It’s scary to think that people can be accused of being guilty *without* any proof but you can’t be innocent until there’s proof.

@Nervein Z Even worse in Belarus, here suspicion is enough, no evidence needed.

Two people were accused of terrorism and were given the death penalty.

Shits fucked up. America sucks, but it could be much, much worse.

@Girl Idk So you're saying convict people on no evidence and pure emotion? Alright I think this conversation is done.

@apology girl  Not what I'm saying at all. If you have no evidence a rape or crime occurred then it most likely didn't happen, there is no perfect crime. Also are you implying I live the life of a rapist and that I'm crying over the prospect of getting caught. Throwing out a lot of accusations in a very incoherent manor. Honestly can barely understand wtf your saying in your reply so I'm just guessing. Whatever your saying evidence needs to be provided in order for something to be proven in court. You can't just me to someone for no reason with no evidence based on a he said she said argument. Honestly what the hell happened to the concept of innocent until proven guilty it blows my fucking mind.

@Nullname if ur gonna make a life raping someone and literally ruin there life cuz of it forever, and cry like a baby when you get ur "life ruined "for it dont do the crime

@apology girl  If your going to make life ruining accusations against someone you damn well better have some solid proof.

its scary to think people would get raped and all because they didnt have "proof" whoever did it would walk free and continue

@Nervein Z I think you need to read your reply again, it's incoherent.

It is only like that in Advanced bitter states like America, even some 3rd rate country in Asia have better practice.

@Jack Hughman your right but we all know thats not how it is in practice

That's actually the opposite way the law is supposed to work, proving a negative is impossible it's the onus of the police to prove guiltm


The amount of rage that fills my body everytime the detective says there's no debate about Michael's innocense is unfathomable. I can't imagine how I would react in that situation.

I have a wee bit of a temper and a low tolerance for BS, so I would probably say something that would get be beaten and would probably be one of those stories you hear about an innocent person spending time in jail due to falsified documents and bias. Of course, my self-preservation instinct would probably force me to be relatively well-behaved. No way in hell would I "confess" or even talk to them any more than claiming my innocence. They're not going to release me based on anything I say anyway, so what's the point of talking and potentially saying something they can twist into a confession or twist into evidence they will use against you. This is why competent lawyers are important. They will keep you from falling for this which makes it a lot harder for the police to frame you. Of course, if you're poor, good luck with that.

Dude I would freak out if I was being falsely accused like tf how are u supposed to prove that u didnt do it

I would be smiling at all the money I would get.

I'd be as calm as Michael and try to gather Intel on homeboy doing the interrogation's family. I'd want to know who they are.

@Very Cheesy boi Thanks, was typing too fast for my brain to handle at the time it seems lol

@Very Cheesy boi With someone like you lurking in the comments, nobody needs an autocorrector to replace their typos.

Imagine being told you were seen/caught on camera whilst knowing it’s not possible, the injustice is ridiculous


Why are literally all the videos being taken down


I felt so mad on behalf of both of those men. Must be terrifying and so stressful to be in those positions.


Anyone falsely imprisoned should be paid at very least minimum wage for every single hour they were imprisoned, that's the bare minimum they should receive in compensation

@Vault Chang the deductions should not be a part of it, and I'm betting they calculate based on an 8hr day five days a week as a lost wages kind of thing rather than a 24 hours per day incarcerated

The problem is that they do calculate based on that, minus the cost of keeping them in prison i.e. cost of housing, food, electrical. Generally speaking they'll pay a little more than the bare minimum but most of the lawsuits is because the amount is just not fair with all the deductions


You can tell that detective was stupid as shit, just trying to get invisible threads..  Glad everyone got demoted and suspended without pay.  Glad he got a civil suit and won.  Good stuff.

@soccerguy2433 yeah, but I’m assuming that it went mostly to his lawyer so I doubt that it actually made a difference. Which is sad because who knows what this has done to his mental health or if it ruined his reputation. In my opinion they should have had to pay for his legal fees and pay out at least 100,000.

@Abbaz girl i'm assuming some basis for the monetary compensation is the amount of lost wages.

Should have gotten more than he did and they should have been fired. But at least they did something. Hopefully they also made all officers involved go through some sort of re-training so this doesn’t happen again.

The moral of the story ... "don't go to canada"


I wonder how many people in jail or prison are there because people were wrongly accused.


I hate how the interrogator was immediately telling him that the question of his innocence is not even up for discussion. Seeing how this went that was exactly how the interrogator was thinking. He did  not want to know the real story and was only looking for things to pin him down on, so vile.

But that’s how interrogators work. If this was a guilty suspect, you wouldn’t have ever said that. Their job is to get a confession from a suspect.


Never ever talk to the police without an attorney.   Say nothing, do nothing, and when it's over, sue the hell out of them.

The cops have what they have. Why give them any more ?

Yes yes yes

Until they convince the court to make asking for a lawyer equal to admitting guilt lol.


The end of this video is the most joyful I’ve been all week. This man made 15,000 a day for 3 days AND the idiots got demoted AND SUSPENDED?!!!!!!!! I love it

my God, that is the warmest thing ever ever<br>I hope these "investigators" are not only demoted but jailed too. You cant play with someone's life and reputation

my God, that is the warmest thing ever ever
I hope these "investigators" are not only demoted but jailed too. You cant play with someone's life and reputation

Right! But I think the investigators should have been fired. I'm glad there was some sort of punishment, but for what they did, their punishment was a slap on the wrist! They deserved to be fired!

46k for 3 days....kinda wants me to be falsely accused....

Don't forget Justin who spent two years in jail on false charges. 5:49

No.  His lawyer gets a huge cut of that.

No.  His lawyer gets a huge cut of that.

Probably also had a bunch of other days in court and his lawyers probably took 1/3rd of the money, but yea, hopefully he was satisfied with the end result.

not enough, they should all have to serve the same amount of jail time as him, gotten fired, and publicly shamed

That's not enough. His attorney probably got half, and those officers should have been fired. It's a lot better outcome than I was expecting, though.

@Xeonzs do you even know what is going on in this conversation? Like do you even know who I was talking to? Because it doesn't seem like it.

@sikander is the biggest scumbag to ever exist That's not what they were referring... JCS said 46k, to which Melanie said 15 a day for 3 days, because that's basically it, he was wrongfully held for 3 days and compensated by 46k total, that's roughly 15k a day, what does that amount to? Exactly. It's simple math and English.

@sikander is the biggest scumbag to ever exist ah, gotcha, my bad, thanks for clarifying!

@Kristaps Muravjovs they were referring to the officers being suspended without pay

@Tech Huh? Pretty sure JCS said the dude got 46k usd, no?

Haha, yeah. Goddamn it was so infuriating to watch that interview - kudos to the guy though, keeping so calm when the interviewer was obviously lying to his face. I know it would be cooler if he raged but I personally respect his chill demeanor much more.<br>A different question, of course, is if it had been better for him to get angry, but in this case 46k + the sense of justice when those bastards got demoted and suspended - I'd say he got what he deserved.

Haha, yeah. Goddamn it was so infuriating to watch that interview - kudos to the guy though, keeping so calm when the interviewer was obviously lying to his face. I know it would be cooler if he raged but I personally respect his chill demeanor much more.
A different question, of course, is if it had been better for him to get angry, but in this case 46k + the sense of justice when those bastards got demoted and suspended - I'd say he got what he deserved.

I wish I could be that happy but I'm stuck boiling because of all the other people who go through this yet don't get any of that.


That was the most horrible investigator ever and I think he was just trying to prove him guilty for his own promotion

@Bear Marco I meant no conviction as in; it’s not likely to be true, that his strong beliefs have no merit.

@Bear Marco The black man in this video isn't black? Even if the interrogator didn't know the details about the actual suspect, he has terrible intuition if he never even doubted that this guy was capable of robbing a jewelry store.

@Kaz Rodriguez

1 - that guy is not black
2 - cops are legally allowed to deceive during interview and interrogation (see Frazier v. Cupp)
3 - this dude made a mistake and was just given the suspect that the arresting cops gave him
4 - he didn't arrest him, other officers did that, he just took him into interrogation and initiated an official judicial police investigation
5 - crack

@Bear Marco dude you’re insane what are you on about how can you not see that the officer was talking out of his ass and tried to pin a crime on a short white man on a tall black dude

@spongebobsjellyfish someone is convicted after they're charged, which is after an investigation, as such you can't say he wasn't convicted because it would make no sense if he was.

Additionally, seeing this individual does not prove that there was racism. This guy in his clothes and facial complexion may have looked exactly like the suspect.

Finally, I may be crazy here, but I'm pretty sure that the guy there isn't black.

@Bear Marco but the dude had no conviction. Just a lot of racism and a want to pin it on a black guy 🤷♀ or convenient to him guy 🤷♀🤷♀ dudes should just do their god damn jobs properly.

@dis cover Cops don't get evaluated based on cases closed, otherwise every case they came across they wouldn't bother to investigate and just blame it on someone but write down "not enough evidence to charge".

Typically when police officers commit misconduct in an attempt to have someone confess, it's because they have absolute conviction that this person is guilty and that this is the only way to convict them, but in most cases and otherwise police will just follow by their duty as normal.

What I learn from criminal justice course as well as these type of stories is that police just wants to close the case. Their valuation comes from how many cases they closed. The same as the number of convictions Prosecutor can get on their book regardless if the defendant is guilty or innocents. The detective was willing to string arm Michael into confessing to a crime he did not commit. It crazy to think they can convince someone to admit to a crime they didnt commit but you got to understand that police can hold you for 48 hours just trying to psychologically tear you down. In the end, anyone normal person would admit it with just enough time. Michael was strong in his conviction and they didnt held him long in the interrogation room.