Astonishing, this is primary level maths in the UK

It is also primary level in the US.  I'll bet if you polled adults 30-60 years old in the UK with this question the majority would fail also.  Most people don't care about or use math at all beyond balancing their statement.  They use a calculator, phone or PC to do math.


At the first moment 16 really seemed the most likely answer, but as soon as the question is read properly and some math is switched on, it was very easy to get to 25.

@Kriegter 2^2 * 2^2, but I see your point

@Jane Miller they made it misleading everyone assumed it said product of two smaller square numbers so 2^4 * 2^4 is 16

@Jane Miller Actually, I don't know. At the first moment intuitively it just seemed that 16 is a very suitable number to contain small square numbers (2x2, 3x3, combined with something, maybe 4x4 plus square of 0 counts). But it's still hard to explain, how so many people in the audience managed to give a wrong answer after so much time for thinking.

How did 16 really seem the most likely ans? Some preliminary logic or just some intuition?


25 is a square number (5^5) and is the sum of 9 (3^3) and 16 (4^4), which are respectively smaller numbers.<br>This took me a minute. I don't know how much time you have on a live show to figure out. It actually took me a few times to reread the question. It wasn't super hard but also isn't a straight forward math question; for most people with basic math skills, it takes trial and error to go through all the possibilities.

25 is a square number (5^5) and is the sum of 9 (3^3) and 16 (4^4), which are respectively smaller numbers.
This took me a minute. I don't know how much time you have on a live show to figure out. It actually took me a few times to reread the question. It wasn't super hard but also isn't a straight forward math question; for most people with basic math skills, it takes trial and error to go through all the possibilities.


I feel like the audience just had a facepalm moment when the guy couldn't answer such a simple question. They came together, pulled one on him and clapped their hearts out.

Genius.

Nope. Just average people. Most of them probably forgot what square number is. If you do not use something your brain removes it and replaces it with valuable information, like the measures of Kim Kardashian.

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70 % of them also couldn't answer the question correctly.


This is the exact wrong kind of question to ask the audience.

@steamroller82 thing is

Past taxes

WHEN is it useful to know it without a calculator(obviously besides being on Who Wants To be A Millionaire

@Isomer Soma ? You just agreed with me and then said that my picture of mathematics was inaccurate. My entire point was that K-12 schools do not encourage or teach any abstraction.

@Logan You have to do major abstractions to actually understand many mathematical formulas in the first place. Much more abstract than the formulas themselves, but abstractions can simplify and uncover hidden relations. Afterall mathematical theories are just abstractions of something which started out to be a specific problem like measuring the area below a curve led to approximating such areas with rectangles which if chosen arbitrarily small measure the area arbitrarily precise. Generalizing this notion of riemann integral to multiple dimensions will uncover that many things which didn't matter in 1dim (but are also happening in 1 dimension just unnoticed) are crucially important such as the path you take to count those rectangles. Generalizing further and further will make you understand the simple case you started from better and better while you expand the tools you have developed to work on much larger classes of problems. That's kind of the history of mathematics.

I agree that schools relying way too much on teaching facts is a problem but your picture of mathematics isn't accurate. Mathematics is all about abstraction. Without abstraction one can't possibly understand mathematics.

@steamroller82 Imma gonna calculate the are under a curve bruh. :/

@steamroller82 the fact that math is frustrating for most students should say that math is improperly taught.

@The WovenMantis i was asking whether or not it was *jakarta barat(west jakarta).

ok, better this as so should have been,
which side of jakarta did you use to live in?

@Spider Jerusalem Sorry, not familiar Eleuthera the word.

@steamroller82 I mean we don't really. how many of us are gonna be on a game show? and really other than this show, game shows don't even ask questions like this

@steamroller82 I've used algebra and geometry in real life, but there was a thing we did in the last year that I couldn't understand, never used again, but was capable of doing.  I got grade A but still don't know what the heck it was we did or why.

@Pure Love do you think every other country are math experts or something

@Glegle Everyone will need basic math at some point in his life, everyone, there is no exception.
Even without knowing math, it is used for everything and so the best for everyone is to learn it.

It's not about liking it at all. It's about having the control of our life, that's completely different.

You need 2 apples ? You need to know if you have enough money to buy them and for that, you need to count your money you need to be able to read numbers.

Your comment is one of the top 50 clueless comment I read.
What next ? Lots of people don't need to read ?
School is useless ?
What's your true point ? Because I suppose you don't put on the table such a so woke idea for nothing ? What's the schedule behing that, I'm curious.

@Gilles Grindel lots of people dont actually need to learn math. quit tryna push it onto everyone just b/c u like it

@steamroller82 imo algebra is only needed in STEM jobs and probably a few other jobs I don't consider. Like, a security guard don't need complex maths.

@steamroller82 Nah most of you teachers are entitled assholes who think they're doing acts of God by just sitting there spitting words out of a book.

@Call me Rel Lived in Jakarta for two years actually. Granted, I went to an international school, and Jakarta is certainly not the poorest place in Indonesia, but there was still plenty.

Crazy how there was so much poverty directly adjacent to huge skyscrapers and malls.

@The WovenMantis u should try studying in Indonesia. Everything is shit

@steamroller82 Kids dont want to learn maths cuz its boring and/or annoying to them. I never had that problem. But the reason we need them to learn is cuz the society needs the best minds for maths, cuz the future lies on scientists and only the best of them will create the future. Ofc math relates to like half of all jobs so its for your own good from a smaller perspective and it powers the passion of some. If youre not one of those passionative people or you dont plan to go to a math based jobs, (from societys perspective) we, our kids and technically you too cuz ur a part of society need you to learn math for the future. And we want the best future. Ive seen so many brilliant minds just lose interest in school. Im embarassad to say they were probaply smarter than me but because they didnt care about grades they are going to become plumbers and electricians and im going to be the scientist. We are all just worker ants for the society, always have been. If you dont believe me, then think about where the money is going, who is getting something from ur work. This is not a religion its just one of the ways to comprehend society. Future innovations are the best and only way to get out of this hamster wheel of working, breeding and dying. Math is a giant part of those innovations, mostly about machines to do everything for us and calculations to keep our planet living for the existance of human kind. You can tell them this and the fact that it doesnt matter when they accept this, now or when they are 90, this is just how it is. Does this sound depressing? Ofc it does but theres much much more to that including happiness but i dont have enough time to explain the whole existance of life in every little detail, not even if i talked about it 24/7 365 till i die i wouldnt.

The reason is a bad idea is because its an easy question if you think about it, but if you dont care enough, you will probably answer on a whim.

@steamroller82 strongly disagree. Most of what I saw in my K-12 math seemed to be a terrible way to learn it. The focus was always on memorizing formulas or methods to do something; rarely were we taught, in detail, why the formulas and methods worked.

When you tell someone to memorize a method/formula and keep it completely abstract, they are not learning. They are preparing for a test. They may do perfectly well on that test, but they do not understand the material and they have not learned anything useful.

Even though I went to good schools, math was still usually taught poorly. This is a serious problem with our education.

Yep tricky question you have to think out.

@steamroller82 It's about the way it is tought psychologically, not just giving the material, but to actually make it go through their head in a way that would spike interest in them. That's what's wrong.. Parents don't necessarily have the time to make their kids interested in math.

Also a kinda weird and confusing way to ask a question about pygathorean triples

It's a popular question in Pythagoras' theorem, 3² + 4² = 25

I creatively taught it here https://youtu.be/59x7KJ1zKvQ

@Gilles Grindel im from germany and i didnt care from class 6 through 10 either bc i would get promoted without doing anything but now in class 11 (i graduate in class 12) im working like normal again bc the work im doing now matters for my degree

@Basi I agree with you, they don't care because they don't have to.
I don't know about your country but in France, no matter if they understand/know/learn, they would be promoted anyway so why would they care ?
And we get 11yo teenagers unable to read what they wrote themselves.

@Gilles Grindel if the students don't care to learn it it won't help

@steamroller82 Your last sentence is what's wrong and the fact that it's frustrating you only means that you haven't notice the difference with kids those days. They need more pragmatism and concrete. They don't listen to grown-up blindly as they use to do.
For example, if a young kids have some trouble to understand 3 + 1, tell him you have 3 candies, how many would you have if I give you 1 more ? The answer would be easier for him to find.
This is available with all level of maths, if you know why, it helps understanding the how. Especially with equations which are as bored to learn than they are usefull in the life.
It's up to you teachers to make your lessons interresting.

That said, I think there is a will to low down the level of knowledge given in schools because it's easier to rule on ignorants swallowing everything and asking for it than to rule on people using their brain to think by themselves. And it's not only in America but all over the western world.

@The WovenMantis I was once a math teacher for several years. Nothing wrong with the way math is taught.

Kids are just convinced that it's unimportant so they don't try.

They have excuses like "my parents are terrible at math and they're successful" and the frustrating "when am I ever going to need this in life?"

@PureLove Having lived in many different places overseas, the average person is pretty dumb internationally, but the way math is taught in America is fundamentally poor, and they don’t realize it until they start struggling with more complex algebra in collegiate-level mathematics.


If you study math long enough, you will remember the classic example of pythagorean theorem wich consists pf a triangule with sides 3, 4 and 5.


I recognize that I'm usually unable to answer most of the questions asked in this game show... I'm not even able to answer the $100 or $200 questions... Having said this, this specific question was pretty simple... I'm surprised it was worth $16,000! Sometimes they ask questions that are much more difficult but are only worth $500 or $1,000.

The difficulty of the question being asked is different depending on who you ask said question to (or you could say that it is subjective)


What math teachers think everyday life is like:


I initially thought that both smaller square numbers must be the same. I was like, "wth, where's the correct answer??". Then I realised they don't have to be the same number lol


i like the fact that 70% of the people just trolled this dude for not knowing math lol


Pythagoras: Am I a joke to you?

Him and the audience: Yes

The audience: gives him the wrong answer Also the audience: claps

@Timothé - La santé au masculin Maybe. It's just funnily not a thing I have memorized. Of course you can derive it with Pythagoras

@Jul W you would be surprised how many people know that

@Cool Terra Them multiplying skills wont work when u dealing with algebra,geometry or for god sake calculus

@Dkoy Koala "public school fails to instill the pain of failure you will experience in life if you dont take math seriously."
ah yes, the failure of not winning a gameshow, that thing all of us totally go through. and it's obviously public school's fault for not scaring us enough about this "fact", not that the way schools in general but especially public schools teach math that's the problem. education understander koala.

@Dkoy Koala _"public school fails to instill the pain of failure you will experience in life if you dont take math seriously."_
ah yes, the failure of not winning a gameshow, that thing all of us totally go through. and it's obviously public school's fault for not scaring us enough about this "fact", not that the way schools _in general_ but especially public schools teach math that's the problem. education understander koala.

The applause started with just one person, and a second later a few more people, then everybody. Either they turned on the applause sign or the others began applauding just out of force of habit of applauding when others applaud.

@Dkoy Koala u shouldn’t have to find 16 and 9 though, 3 square plus 4 square equals 5 square is a common thing to know

@Dkoy Koala yeah that's why I'm good at math, I literally got a near perfect score on my math end of year exams only off by 3 points one time, I make jokes to other people about the fact that I might be able to multiply faster than they can type something out on a calculator, sometimes I win sometimes the calculator wins, god on reread this sounds like me flexing but I swear it's not I just felt it important to talk about personal experience, I also find math problems in things that don't have math in them intentionally but can be created from them for fun when bored, math is in my case a lot more useful but that's just cause of the fact that I've always liked math.

I think either the audience was trolling or they thouhht of the sum as the product

Having 4 results tripped him up. He could not focus on finding the sum squares for 25 so he rushed it probs due to pressure. I cant blame, public school fails to instill the pain of failure you will experience in life if you dont take math seriously.


Man, I was sweating just to imagine being there... Suddenly, I started doubting all the timetables I knew and wanted to cross-check every sum. These games are not only about knowledge... You need to kill every question in cold blood.


It's a Pythagorean triplet, so it popped in my head immediately.


it is either the entire audience trolling him or they all failed maths systematically


By just looking at the thumbnail and seeing only the first two options, I did some calculating in my head and guessed the correct answer which was 25. But idk if I would’ve been able to under the pressure that he was feeling.


I’m not even gonna lie, I’m kind of ashamed of my school, I’m in grade 8 and on grade level math and we are just now learning Pythagoras theorem. I get my homework done as soon as I get it and I bet half the kids in my class would ponder this question for days.


70% of the audience have, apparently, failed math in elementary.

70% of the audience have, apparently, failed math in elementary.

@steamroller82 The only explanation which said it best.

@steamroller82 The only explanation which said it best.

They don't teach Pythagorean theorem in elementary school

They don't teach Pythagorean theorem in elementary school

@Vikram Tete Read the question properly, lol. "Which of these square numbers also happens to be the sum of two smaller square numbers?"

Again, the important part..."SUM OF TWO SMALLER SQUARE NUMBERS"

16= 4^2+0^2 is an invalid answer. Thats 16 = 16+0, which is NOT what the question is asking. 16 is not less than 16. 16 is equal to 16. So, you aren't summing 2 smaller square numbers to make a bigger square number. One of the squares you are summing is not smaller, therefore, the answer is wrong if you say 16, 36 or 49. 25 is the only correct answer.

I've never been taught this. At all. And I'm in 8th grade taking 10th grade math.

I've never been taught this. At all. And I'm in 8th grade taking 10th grade math.

@Neal Moody You will be stronger if you stop looking for excuses for your shortcomings

@Neal Moody You will be stronger if you stop looking for excuses for your shortcomings

@Bernardberben all shit that was done before you were born....seriously, dumb comments like this are only proving their point 😑

@Vikram Tete "But audience are right"
Are you one of the audiences? Because you're clearly wrong here.

@Vikram Tete _"But audience are right"_
Are you one of the audiences? Because you're clearly wrong here.

The question is worded so poorly. Also you don't learn this in elementary. Moron trying to insult people for their knowledge, yet they can't even get the grade level right

@Vikram Tete it is the sum not product of two square able numbers

@Vikram Tete it is the sum not product of two square able numbers

@MSU Spartans all the background you'd need to solve it is taught in elementary school, if you can't figure it out from there you're a straight up moron

His problem wasn't with math. The thing that kicked his ass (and the audience's) is that they can't handle a simple logical process even tho all of the information they need is right in front of them.

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@MSU Spartans literally any developed country will teach you about square numbers and addition in elementary school

@Shaik Feroze I don't wanna hear it. We've discovered electricity. Invented the first plane. Made the first mass produced car. Made the first TV. Without us yall might still be way behind

@Vikram Tete Zero isen't a Square  number

@Vikram Tete Zero isen't a Square  number

@Sede Vacante this is the stupidest comment I have ever seen

@Sede Vacante this is the stupidest comment I have ever seen

@Sede Vacante >America is one of the least evil countries<br>Lmao

@Sede Vacante >America is one of the least evil countries
Lmao

Dude I learned squares and square roots in elementary school but I haven't had to use or know them in YEARS.

No. They just never use this shit in their entire life again. Thats all.

No. They just never use this shit in their entire life again. Thats all.

The audience was thinking the following: from these perfect squares, which number has two equal integers that also are equal to it. Which is A ( 8+8) and C (18+18). But they short circuit to A because B (25/2 = 12.5).

@steamroller82 Your explanation and conclusion was exactly the result of the Pythagoran theorem, which is the same thing Abishek said. So you both obtained the correct answer simply using different methods. PS: I pictured the answer the way Abishek explained because that's how it was so ingrained in our minds from school.

@Shaik Feroze I'm generalizing here.. Everyone uses a calculator so nobody knows how to do math functions. I never liked math but I always got straight A's all through elementary and high school.  I'm a retired service executive who had  managed several mid level managers over my career, many of them my age or older who couldn't perform basic addition/subtraction without using a calculator. I'm talking about fellow boomers. Frustrating and too set in their ways and unwilling to want to even learn quick short cuts. People are too too lazy.

@Direct_Kard If you believe me questioning how someone could go through Texas’s entire middle school education system and still not know what square numbers are is boasting then you’re probably in a similar position, because me claiming I learnt square numbers as a 5th grader is no flex as it’s generally standard within the American education system.

@JasonStarRising man tries to boast that he knows what square numbers are but doesnt know something as simple as that not all people have the same privileges and that not all schools teach the same things, how funny lol

@Vikram Tete The problem stated "two smaller numbers", so your logic doesn't apply to the question since the same numbers are equal, not greater nor less than the other...

@Vikram Tete two SMALLER square numbers. 16 is not smaller thqn 16

@Vikram Tete two SMALLER square numbers. 16 is not smaller thqn 16

@JasonStarRising no? Just because my school area sucked doesn’t mean I’m special needs, are you trying to be an asshole?

@A Texan Kid are you special needs or something because the average person knows what square numbers are by 5th grade

@Vikram Tete then you could apply that logic to every single answer. according to your logic, all the answers would be correct.

@Vikram Tete the question saids two ‘smaller’ square numbers

@Vikram Tete the question saids two ‘smaller’ square numbers

What elementary school teachers square numbers?!

What elementary school teachers square numbers?!

@Vikram Tete it can’t be that Bc the question wasn’t asking you to square it it was asking numbers that can be squared when adding 4^2 is wrong Bc we didn’t square the 9 and the 16 basically it was asking which number squared is the sum of two perfect squares with out squaring just adding also I think Yk that since I’m now realizing this was 10 months ago my bad😂

@Vikram Tete it said smaller square number not smallest square number. If it was smallest then it would have make sense

What school did you go to? Went through all of middle school and they still never taught this

What school did you go to? Went through all of middle school and they still never taught this

83% because 5% of the ones who voted right are correct by chance

83% because 5% of the ones who voted right are correct by chance

@Vikram Tete Read the question again. Sum of two "smaller" square numbers.

@Vikram Tete Read the question again. Sum of two "smaller" square numbers.

25 is the only one that you don’t have to add 0^2 for,

25 is the only one that you don’t have to add 0^2 for,

@Abhishek.S. Nair that's not the reason you can't use 0. This is about square numbers, not right triangles.

You can use 0.

It just doesn't fit. You need two squares that are smaller.

Even though 16 is the sum of 4^2 and 0^2, the 4^2 is not smaller than 16. We need two smaller squares.

The only solution on offer is 25 being 3^2 plus 4^2, since those are each smaller than 25.

@Vikram Tete This is based on pythagorean triplets. And u can't take 0, as length of side of (real) right angle triangle can't be 0.

@Vikram Tete So all the answers are correct?  I don't think you're familiar with what's going on here...

@Vikram Tete So all the answers are correct?  I don't think you're familiar with what's going on here...

@TheSpecialPumpkin NO it says which two smaller SQUARE numbers so 2x4 and 0x4 are not SQUARE numbers! It’s 3x3 add 4x4 to make 25! Really not difficult!

Ivica Pavic this is wordplay math for small children, it's not real math.
It confused even me and I'm really good at math.
Also you are dumb.

@Basi he was referring to the AOL results, which showed 22% of people to be correct, instead of the studio audience who got 30% correct

@pandeytium yeah true because 108% - 70% =38%

@pandeytium yeah true because 108% - 70% =38%

@Neal Moody question is fine. Phrased correctly. List of square numbers are 0,1,4,9,16,25,36, etc.

Some of them happen to be the sum of two smaller ones. Like 25 being the sum of 9 and 16, and also 169 being the sum of 25 and 144, etc.

There are infinite cases of that.

Some of them are not the sum of two smaller ones. 9 for instance is not the sum of any 2 smaller squares.

In the options provided on the show, 25 is the only one that is the sum of two smaller squares.

Pretty sure I don't start learning about square numbers until middle school.  But that's Murican education for you.

@Shaik Feroze Are you a communist? America is obviously one of the least evil countries in the world and therefore is one of the smartest on average.

@Koichi Hirose you are absolutely right bro!! I got it finally👍

@Koichi Hirose you are absolutely right bro!! I got it finally👍

@Neal Moody <br>The question was clearly understandable

@Neal Moody
The question was clearly understandable

@Vikram Tete the parts where you misunderstood it are,
1) Square number is like the name for the answer/title (product/sum...) so saying 4^2 isn't the square number itself but like the equation for it.
2) "smaller square..." 16 or 4^2 isn't smaller than 16, they are equal.

@Vikram Tete You're logic is 100% correct, but I think you were misunderstanding my last point. I was saying that if we applied your logic then every answer on the board would be correct (which you proved) and this wouldn't be a question.

@Koichi Hirose How every answer would be correct? Look...16= 4^2+0^2,   25= 4^2+3^2, 36= 6^2+0^2,  49=7^2+0^2....Hence, here we can say that 4^2 and 0 are the smallest pair of square numbers than the rest three pairs.

@Vikram Tete It would be correct, but since it asked for 2 smaller squares, you can’t just add 16 to 0. If that were the case you could make a case that every answer would be correct.

i missunderstood the question and said 16 myself being 4^2 is also 2^4

i missunderstood the question and said 16 myself being 4^2 is also 2^4

But audience are right....Why can't it be 16? Since 16= 4^2 +0^2

But audience are right....Why can't it be 16? Since 16= 4^2 +0^2


This took me a decent bit of time before realizing a 3,4,5 right triangle solves this very simply


I chose the same option the guy chose, I didn’t know he was going to choose it until 55% of the audience chose option A. Never trust audience in math. Only the math expert one in the audience


What’s even worse than him not being able to get it is that only 30% on the audience picked the right answer, the majority picking another, incorrect option


Bru, im 15 and the question flew completely over my head thinking it was a complicated math problem. The second when I asked my dad for help when he was drinking a beer, he instantly told me the answer. I'm like dam it, need more sleep.


I know what the question means, but I paused to think, if I was in such a real stressful situation I would need a lot of time to think.


Asking the audience on a math question only works if the majority of the audience knows math... I wouldn't rely on them.

@notcyndi I immediately thought of square root numbers. square numbers is just a weird word for me, sum of squares make more sense but the fact that it said square numbers made me initially think 16 because of 4.

@Smol Boye It's not an oversight, because the question specifies "smaller" squares

@Smol Boye It's not an oversight, because the question specifies "smaller" squares

@Miles Reid I don't think 16 was necessarily set as a trap - the answers are 4 consecutive squares

@DarkNSinth this is an oversight in the wording of the question. Usually in mathematics "square numbers" and "perfect squares" are defined over the natural numbers, which excludes 0.

They DIDN'T know what 1s and 2s we're: they said it was bass beats, and NOT TURN TABLES 🤣🤣🤣

They DIDN'T know what 1s and 2s we're: they said it was bass beats, and NOT TURN TABLES 🤣🤣🤣

Alexis Beuve I'm french and the question made perfect sense to me. Why would other languages formulate sentences like yours?

Nice im indian, i knew the answer,btw they be like: they took errr jerbs....boi could have considered the fact that those two squared number must have to be smaller than 25, and what are rhose, those are 4,9,16 now add and see if it meets your requirements

notcyndi isn't about idiot is about learning

notcyndi isn't about idiot is about learning

75IFFY if the question is about the product, 16 and 36 are correct.

75IFFY if the question is about the product, 16 and 36 are correct.

zolikoff
for a French this question makes no sense

we would formulate this question rather like that:
which of these numbers is equal to the sum of squares of numbers smaller than its square root?

A ton of people are saying the audience are bad in maths, But maybe Just maybe They dont give a fuck

The majority of the audience was correct!

The majority of the audience was correct!

75IFFY sir, or madamn, product is mutliplication. I came across this video one day and I see that a lot of people are spreading incorrect information. The smaller square numbers than 16 are: 1, 4, 9, which of these two numbers make a product of 16? 4, and 4 again. The way the question is formulated implies that the two numbers are different. So the truth is, the audience does not have the mathematical thinking capacity.

Jesus fuck. Even if you were not a math student u learn about squares and square roots like in 5th

Jesus fuck. Even if you were not a math student u learn about squares and square roots like in 5th

zolikoff Pls watch https://youtu.be/K2g30TBNg_Q and SUBSCRIBE IF U LIKE IT

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Wouldn't be advisable to ask an American audience a math question

Wouldn't be advisable to ask an American audience a math question

If you know what sum is and what a square is, then you can solve this question. Quit making up excuses.

This is 5th grade math, how do so many people not know this??

This is 5th grade math, how do so many people not know this??

zolikoff but majority being this bad is catastrophe

zolikoff but majority being this bad is catastrophe

zolikoff Audience is for pop culture questions only. They never get shit that requires actual thinking right.

ReflexPoint Not really. They're asking for the sum of two SMALLER numbers.

4^(2) + 0^(2) = 16
16 + 0 = 16

16 isn't smaller, it's equal to. Besides, you can say the same thing for every other number combination mentioned.

You ask the audience about pop culture question.  Math and science you phone a friend.

You ask the audience about pop culture question.  Math and science you phone a friend.

most people nowadays wouldn't know how to answer this, this quickly cuz we rely too much on our calculators even tho we study like over 12 hours math per week in our university i can't even remember the last time i actually manually calculated something like the product of numbers with 2 degits

i didn't know participants need to answer the questions QUICKLY.  I didn't even know there was a time limit.

yeah, but random usually equals out and the knowledgeable ones stand out

yeah, but random usually equals out and the knowledgeable ones stand out

St.Clair Bij The question requested "the sum of two smaller square numbers", and "last time I checked", 5 squared is not smaller than 5 squared. Again, 0 and 5 may not be used to achive the correct answer.

last time i checked the sum of 5 and 0=5  for example so you can add 0 and get the identity

last time i checked the sum of 5 and 0=5  for example so you can add 0 and get the identity

DarkNSinth That's not true. The question specifically says "...the sum of two smaller square numbers"; therefore, the number itself and 0 may not be used.

By that logic, they're all acceptable then, since all of them are squared numbers which could be added to 0 squared to get the same answer.

My 13 year old son just pointed out that 0 squared + 4 squared is 16.  So, A is acceptable it seems.  Unless you don't think 0 is a number.  But everyone I know would say 0 is a number.

zolikoff they are most likely tricking the guy

zolikoff they are most likely tricking the guy

+zolikoff Right ask the audience about math....  When for normal people, almost 80% of your friend would say they hate math. If you think about it carefully, it is suicidal.

The MC is very kind to actually hint &quot;they are messing you up! use other life line!!!&quot;

And the crowd cheering at the end. It is like applauding and saying. &quot;LMAO you believe us?!?&quot;

+zolikoff Right ask the audience about math....  When for normal people, almost 80% of your friend would say they hate math. If you think about it carefully, it is suicidal.

The MC is very kind to actually hint "they are messing you up! use other life line!!!"

And the crowd cheering at the end. It is like applauding and saying. "LMAO you believe us?!?"

+zolikoff It's bad to ask the audience if you live in the USA :)

+zolikoff It's bad to ask the audience if you live in the USA :)

+Terumi Yūki     That response to Fox was unnecessary and Fox makes a very good point.

It IS mostly down to the bad teachers, but sometimes it's not, sometimes it is down to the structure in set place for the teachers. The main problem is that the bad teachers should not even be allowed to teach in the first place.

Education and schooling needs a complete overhaul in my opinion. Up teachers wages but also up the requirements to enter teaching. As a government you are saying how much you value teaching by the standard of teachers you allow and the wage you pay them.

At the moment, crap teachers are teaching and people who would be very good in teaching are turned off by the lower wages in comparison to other careers they can enter with they high qualifications. The result is you just get left with trash people who didn't do so well in their own education, going in to teach. And so the cycle continues.

+Ghost I'm guessing most of the audience voted for A because they don't know the difference between a sum and a product. 4*4=16, and 2*2=4, but 4*4 is a product, not a sum, which is what the question asked for.

+zolikoff I was cracking so hard when I said to myself "no dont listen to the audience!, Its 25 dammit." Then he listen to the audience LOL!!.

This question is very easy to answer if you are trained as well as I am to interpret what may be a tricky math question to a really simple question. The square of these numbers is those 4 numbers they give you.

The sum of two square numbers, could be any unrelated numbers squared that add to 25. The question should really say two square whole numbers or something, but I do not want to be an ass.

Anyways it amazes me that most audience voted for A.

Math is intuitive, language varies. That's why people got it wrong. It has nothing to do with calculations.

Sorry, I cant find any way to say that it makes sense. Its like the state wants to actively reduce the populations level of education!!

Linking funding to results in any government run/state responsible entity is just wrong. Whether its police, education or immigration/customs, et al. The only people that get benefits are those that dont need it, and the ones that are vulnerable and need help get the short straw at the least, or blatantly preyed upon at worst.

I hope that you find a good school that appreciates you. :)

75IFFY Nowadays schools care much more about how they look to the state as opposed to how educated their students end up. There's another side to it though, if a school has low test scores they won't get funded as much. Tell me how that makes sense.

Terumi Yūki<br>And people wonder why languages are being used so poorly. Your supervisors need to be sacked for forcing you to give a child a pass, when the child did not show competence in the subject being studied.

Terumi Yūki
And people wonder why languages are being used so poorly. Your supervisors need to be sacked for forcing you to give a child a pass, when the child did not show competence in the subject being studied.

+C3nturyFox I knew a kid who got in trouble constantly because he actively refused to stop using l33tsp33k in English class.
I taught that kid. I almost failed him but the school made me "help him along" and I quit.
Fuck you.

NoriMori Do not blame the schools, blame the teacher. I do think the reason why most people dont like maths are the horrible bad mathteachers.

RingoIta So? Where do you get the impression that we don't learn it in high school too? That doesn't change the fact that a) Memories fade (especially for the people in the audience, who are a wide range of ages), b) Being taught something in school doesn't mean you were ever good at it, c) Schools, at least North American ones, weren't teaching the same level of math 20 or more years ago that they are now (might not be an excuse for the contestant, but is probably one for a lot of audience members), and d) Humans are naturally bad at math. Don't make this an "Americans are idiots" moment, because it isn't. If you must be so obnoxiously nationalist about it, at least blame American schools.

RingoIta So? Where do you get the impression that we don't learn it in high school too? That doesn't change the fact that a) Memories fade (especially for the people in the audience, who are a wide range of ages), b) Being taught something in school doesn't mean you were ever good at it, c) Schools, at least North American ones, weren't teaching the same level of math 20 or more years ago that they are now (might not be an excuse for the contestant, but is probably one for a lot of audience members), and d) _Humans are naturally bad at math_. Don't make this an "Americans are idiots" moment, because it isn't. If you must be so obnoxiously nationalist about it, at least blame American _schools_.

notcyndi its because most people mistook 'product' for 'sum'. The question setter was obviously aware of this sort of thing so she/he put in 16 as an answer to help drive the mistake

notcyndi Because humans are naturally bad at mental arithmetic, especially when asked to do it quickly.

zolikoff The mystery is why so many of them thought it was 16. What, did the idiots all copy off of each other?


at least he's honest about what he doesnt know<br>what's more shoking is that  70% of the audience are clueless

at least he's honest about what he doesnt know
what's more shoking is that  70% of the audience are clueless


I do not know where I will be when I'll be his age but I don't think I'll ever forget the 3-4-5 right triangle.


To be fair I read the question wrong several times and got 16 until I realised the end segment of what the question was asking


Since the sum is small (Max 49) it doesn't take long if you start at one, squaring each successive number in your head. Once you get to four you should have the answer already.

Doing it under the pressure of a TV show is a different beast entirely.


This is actually a hard question given that there are two unknown variables. He has to do the guess and check method in his head in a high pressure environment. Much easier to do this when you are at home with external help like pencil and paper.


The one guy who got the audience to start clapping is a legend.

@secretsausage1 Exactly. There is always someone who encourages to clap

Yeah… got the audience to clap. He totally didn’t just get it wrong himself.

@secretsausage1 How dare you punch me. I had to spend nights at the hospital.

That's the guy who is paid to jump up and get the auidence to clap..the audience is already  instructed to clap enthusiastically whenever the 'clap guy' does this. I should know, my job was to punch anyone who didn't clap.


I feel so bad watching him get the wrong answer knowing the right one.


At first glance it seems simple, but there could be a bunch of different combinations of square numbers that you'd have to work out. A paper and pen could help.


My mom could've figured that question out with enough time like imagine failing that


I'm surprised this took me some time to think. Then just realised that the sum was 3^2 + 4^2 = 5^2. Finally lol


I’m stoned right now so I thought I would test myself. I figured it out just before it went green. my thought process was chaotic (Experiment conclusion - don’t do drugs if you need to do math)


The audience really just did him dirty and started clapping

@FarGo123 You know all Americans? Or only the stereotypes about them?

@UndertakerU2ber knowing Americans, I wouldn't be sure of your theory

@UndertakerU2ber I get gas after eating beans hence answer is 25

Y’know, it really makes me wonder if some of these people deliberately answered wrong out of spite...

“Look at this guy! Who does he think he is? Using a lifeline on a math question. Pffffft. I should be the one down there. I hope the wrong answer I give helps him lose like he rightfully should!”

Y’know, it really makes me wonder if some of these people deliberately answered wrong out of spite...

_“Look at this guy! Who does he think he is? Using a lifeline on a math question. Pffffft. I should be the one down there. I hope the wrong answer I give helps him lose like he rightfully should!”_


Audience: gives the wrong answer<br>Also audience: "it's clapping time, well played"

Audience: gives the wrong answer
Also audience: "it's clapping time, well played"


Using pythgorean theorem would've helped him here. It also would help to know a 3, 4, 5 triangle for this exact instance


At least the audience cannot make fun of him now


He lost more than 15'000$. He lost the chance to reach the higher prize question :D


Clearing they were thinking of 5^2 + (3i)^2 = 16

Clearing they were thinking of 5^2 + (3i)^2 = 16

well 25 > 16 so their logic is even more scuffed

unless they thought '+' meant *subtraction*? :D

well 25 > 16 so their logic is even more scuffed

unless they thought '+' meant *subtraction*? :D

@homeboi808 I understood it the same way, but English is not my first or even second language.

@homeboi808 I understood it the same way, but English is not my first or even second language.

your wrong with this example tho
In math, a square number is specifically defines as:Product of some integer with itself (src: wikipedia)
3i  ain't an integer.Hence (3i)^2 is not a square number

@Vikram Tete 4² is not smaller than 16, it is 16.

@Vikram Tete 4² is not smaller than 16, it is 16.

@Randheer Singh Thakur sarcasm you don't understand dude.

@Randheer Singh Thakur sarcasm you don't understand dude.

@a.a most of them guessed because they don't know obviously, 16 looks like an answer due to the fact that its square root is a square number and it satisfies the problem definition. most people know that 2^2 = 4 and might think 16 is indeed a likely answer, its more of a hunch rather than interpretation.

@Aston Smith zero IS a square number. the question specifically states "SMALLER two square numbers", that is all you had to say.

@Aston Smith zero IS a square number. the question specifically states "SMALLER two square numbers", that is all you had to say.

@Vikram Tete This actually strikes me, although I don’t believe that this could be a case because 16 = 4^2 + 0^2 but 16 is not greater than 4^2, and question asked for smaller square numbers

Yeah clearly, because that's the level society is on now.

Yeah clearly, because that's the level society is on now.

@Vikram Tete because they asked for the sum of two smaller squared numbers, 4^2 isnt smaller than 4^2

@Vikram Tete because they asked for the sum of two smaller squared numbers, 4^2 isnt smaller than 4^2

How does compare 3i and 25 , the question said two "SMALLER" numbers

How does compare 3i and 25 , the question said two "SMALLER" numbers

@spwashh Its complex numbers<br>i = √(-1)

lol thats complex no...... imagonary no.

lol thats complex no...... imagonary no.

The question was to use 2 smaller square numbers to add up to one of the 4 options. Obviously with 4² as the first option, 1²,2²,3² can't add up to 4² in any order. There's the special triangles that are commonly used in Pythagoras' Theorem which are 3²+4²=5², 5²+12²=13²

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Wow you figured out this for good comment😂, I appreciate your efforts.

@redscorpion 7810 No it is the sqrt(-1) or the imaginary unit.

i²=-1

@redscorpion 7810 No it is the sqrt(-1) or the imaginary unit.

i²=-1

@BiggieBigs Of course 0 is a square number. It is the literal vertex for the y=x² parabola because if we take the derivative of y we get y' which is equal to 2x.

We then need to find when 2x=0 to get our co-ordinates. 2x=0 goes to x=0/2
goes to x=0.

0 is the only sol thus making it the input value for our y'.

0,2(0) goes to 0,0

0,0 is our vertex for y=x². 0 is a square.

No, silly, they were thinking of (3.2)^2 + (2.4)^2 = 16. No need to involve imaginary numbers when merely non-integers will do.

No, silly, they were thinking of (3.2)^2 + (2.4)^2 = 16. No need to involve imaginary numbers when merely non-integers will do.

Can you really define 3i (or any multiple of i) as "smaller" than 16? It's not even on the same number graph, so it's relative position to 16 is undefined. And, of course 5^2 is bigger than 16.

The word "smaller" is how they escaped scrutiny, because there are loads of definitions of two squares to add up to all four choices.

Nice one ..imaginary numbers very creative .,.you should get 15000 dollars for creativity

Nice one ..imaginary numbers very creative .,.you should get 15000 dollars for creativity

Jollys Heldone it‘s very hard to get to 25! by addition. It‘s about 15 septillion

Jollys Heldone it‘s very hard to get to 25! by addition. It‘s about 15 septillion

Cheese Cake Ah, almost.  25 is not smaller than 16, but it is required to be by the question.

Cheese Cake Ah, almost.  25 is not smaller than 16, but it is required to be by the question.

@Ray Rowley Nope complex numbers are not well ordered

@Ray Rowley Nope complex numbers are not well ordered

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@Josh Greenberg I was thinking this as well, but notice that we have to compare the squares, not the bases (that is, we compare (3i)^2=-9 with 4^2=16, not 3i with 4. However, the example fails anyways because 25 is not smaller than 16.

YaH I miss understood the question at first; it's very deceptive

YaH I miss understood the question at first; it's very deceptive

@Mercedes More like laziest explanation, not simplest. Dumb audience would mean random guessing and answers of equal distribution with no bias towards any one answer.

@sirmolio The simplest explanation is that the audience is dumb. I think you are being a bit generous by claiming that they all collectively misconstrued “sum”.

@Mercedes They misread "sum" as "product" or "square" - 1) Can and do you even see how misreading this single word leads to the answer 16? Read the question, substitute that word, and process. You see you get 16. If you do not see this, there is no point to discussing further. If so, proceed to point 2. 2) Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is the most likely. As soon as the audience reads squares, they start thinking squares/multipliers. Addition never enters their mind despite reading "sum" - starts thinking in terms of squares and products, hence the misreading in their heads - at no time did any addition computation enter their minds. The argument is over. The task is not refuting what I say, but to contemplate how and why such a word "sum" was miscronstrued. My explanation is the most plausible and correct and should indeed be obvious now that I've enlightened you.

Combination of Integer and Imaginary numbers are not allowed because she says "SMALLER",  There is not "Bigger than" or  "Smaller than" relations among complex numbers.

@Jollys Heldone why are you working with factorials

@Jollys Heldone why are you working with factorials

But there is nothing like smaller or bigger for complex number.. 😉

But there is nothing like smaller or bigger for complex number.. 😉

Nice try, but the question was about the sum of two SMALLER square numbers! 25 is not smaller than 16!

Nice try, but the question was about the sum of two SMALLER square numbers! 25 is not smaller than 16!

Apparently they missed the "smaller square numbers" part, as 5 > 4 :P

Apparently they missed the "smaller square numbers" part, as 5 > 4 :P

@sirmolio How can so many people misread or misinterpret “sum” as “product”. Makes no sense!

@sirmolio How can so many people misread or misinterpret “sum” as “product”. Makes no sense!

Can't believe so much debate over what the audience did wrong. All they did was misread the word "sum"  as "product" in the original question. Everything else in the question, they read correctly, just that one word. They may have read "sum" but their brains processed it to "product" - so did mine at first, gravitating me to 16, but then gave it a few more seconds thought and realized my error.

@Mercedes I know that is what I am saying. The fact that he is comparing complex numbers with real numbers is just doesn't make any sense. Imagine comparing length and weight at the same time by saying George length is greater than his weight. That is what this person did.

@Deep Throught Ha, you don’t know my students (and my area if fairly good, I can just imagine inner city public schools).

@Deep Throught Ha, you don’t know my students (and my area if fairly good, I can just imagine inner city public schools).

too much knowledge is a curse hahahahahaha

too much knowledge is a curse hahahahahaha

@homeboi808 yeah but the question like clearly says "sum" of smaller square numbers. <br>It's okay if they're bad at math, can't be bad at both math and English.

@homeboi808 yeah but the question like clearly says "sum" of smaller square numbers.
It's okay if they're bad at math, can't be bad at both math and English.

@Ronit Aich they did say the number less than the square number
For example, let's take this question 5²=25 we'll have to take 2 numbers less than 5 i.e for this it's 3²(=9)+4²(=16)

@Ronit Aich they did say the number *less* than the square number
For example, let's take this question 5²=25 we'll have to take 2 numbers less than 5 i.e for this it's 3²(=9)+4²(=16)

@English Life 3i is not greater than 5 either. In the complex realm, “greater” and “lesser” have no practical meaning.

@English Life 3i is not greater than 5 either. In the complex realm, “greater” and “lesser” have no practical meaning.

3i is not less than 5 cz it aint a real number dumbass

3i is not less than 5 cz it aint a real number dumbass

Isn't any number with i, an imaginary number?

Isn't any number with i, an imaginary number?

Cheese Cake thanks for explaining the obvious idiot

Cheese Cake thanks for explaining the obvious idiot

@Ravi Tiwari he has so many likes because of how he thought. No one cares for whole numbers. Just that he got the answer. 😂😂😂

@Ravi Tiwari he has so many likes because of how he thought. No one cares for whole numbers. Just that he got the answer. 😂😂😂

Better answer, they perhaps needed to mention complex or real numbers.

Better answer, they perhaps needed to mention complex or real numbers.

Be Real, come out of your imagination! 😂

Be Real, come out of your imagination! 😂

No, imaginary numbers cant be compared as there is no small or big imaginary number so 3 iota cannot be utilised.

No, imaginary numbers cant be compared as there is no small or big imaginary number so 3 iota cannot be utilised.

@Lokesh PATEL simple logic bhai ase tu 1²+0²=1 bhai nahi Pythagoras triplet 3²+4²=5

@Lokesh PATEL simple logic bhai ase tu 1²+0²=1 bhai nahi Pythagoras triplet 3²+4²=5

Really, this just points out how unclear the question was lol

Really, this just points out how unclear the question was lol

@jp fay why would they?<br>The relationship smaller doesn't exist between imaginary and real numbers. Also. 5^2 is not smaller then 4^2 which is in violation of the question.

@jp fay why would they?
The relationship smaller doesn't exist between imaginary and real numbers. Also. 5^2 is not smaller then 4^2 which is in violation of the question.

@Kevin Bush but for completely different reasons.

@Kevin Bush but for completely different reasons.

@Ray Rowley problem here is that such a relationship doesn't exist between complex numbers and real numbers.

@Ray Rowley problem here is that such a relationship doesn't exist between complex numbers and real numbers.

Indeed. Not specifying domain of numbers here is such a newbie mistake.

Indeed. Not specifying domain of numbers here is such a newbie mistake.

C is not a metric space, therefore 5 > 3i means nothing

C is not a metric space, therefore 5 > 3i means nothing

@t45 dun The calculation isn't wrong, but 3i is not an integer, so it is ruled out by the question.

@t45 dun The calculation isn't wrong, but 3i is not an integer, so it is ruled out by the question.

Roger Wang, well, yeah technically youre not wrong here ( if we take in calcul sqrt of -1)

Roger Wang, well, yeah technically youre not wrong here ( if we take in calcul sqrt of -1)

@Josh Greenberg An easier way to rule out this possibility is noting that the question says "square numbers", which are by definition integers. Therefore, we aren't talking about imaginary numbers.

You are correct....
Ouestion should be -:
Which of these square numbers also happens to be sum of 2 smaller square number ( numbers can be imaginary or real number )

Surprising, that the audience knew that 5^2 plus (3i)^2 works but didn't know the definition of square and the absence of the smaller/larger property in C.

Obviously the correct answer should have been d) 49 as both 4 and 9 are smaller squares.

but he dont know the simple maths , do you think he can go for complex numbers

but he dont know the simple maths , do you think he can go for complex numbers

That answer’s a bit too… complex.

I’ll be here all night, folks

That answer’s a bit too… complex.

I’ll be here all night, folks

but both no should less than square root of resulting no

but both no should less than square root of resulting no

Not to ruin your joke by being a smartass but the sum has to be from two numbers smaller than the sum and 5^2 is too high

Not to ruin your joke by being a smartass but the sum has to be from two numbers smaller than the sum and 5^2 is too high

Very mysterious question ,high tinking question .

Very mysterious question ,high tinking question .

But the question was for whole numbers and not for imaginary numbers ......... 😒😐😑Lol 🤣 <br>Even though you have so many likes 😀

But the question was for whole numbers and not for imaginary numbers ......... 😒😐😑Lol 🤣
Even though you have so many likes 😀

Hahahahahahhaahh!  bro you are next level

Hahahahahahhaahh!  bro you are next level

I thought the question was, "which of these square numbers that also happens to be the sum of two smaller numbers". 4²=16, 8+8=16.... 🙍

I thought the question was, "which of these square numbers that also happens to be the sum of two smaller numbers". 4²=16, 8+8=16.... 🙍

What is that 3i again ?when  it is about SR

What is that 3i again ?when  it is about SR

They didn't mention real numbers. Seems fair.

They didn't mention real numbers. Seems fair.

Ya but the question said 2 smaller so that's where they went wrong

Ya but the question said 2 smaller so that's where they went wrong

@Jollys Heldone it's the SQR of -1. i^2 = -1.

@Jollys Heldone it's the SQR of -1. i^2 = -1.

@homeboi808 Huh. I could see that for a few, but fully 50% of people though? More people than any other group, all independently interpreted the same, completely different question, which is immediately wrong in at least two different ways? I'm finding that hard to believe, but will defer to your expertise. That's pretty amazing if that's true.

@a.a I teach remedial math to seniors in HS, people always add stuff not in the question.

@a.a I teach remedial math to seniors in HS, people always add stuff not in the question.

@homeboi808 What but "what number has a square root that is also a square number" is a completely different question. Where would the word "sum" come in at all then?

looks like not much are familiar with the factorial thing 😂

looks like not much are familiar with the factorial thing 😂

I answered it even without opening the video 😂

I answered it even without opening the video 😂

@Azorath142 No Worries most people that have posted on this have been either intoxicated, retarded, or deluded. At least you have the ability and sense to recognise your errors, many don't.

@Jollys Heldone I don't really know I made that comment at like 2:00 am and I was really tired

@Jollys Heldone I don't really know I made that comment at like 2:00 am and I was really tired

@Azorath142 WTF are you talking about? the question is obvious! it can not be mistaken, why are we still discussing this?

@Azorath142 WTF are you talking about? the question is obvious! it can not be mistaken, why are we still discussing this?

Okay so, the audience most likely thought it was 16 because 4^2 is 16 and it is also the SUM of to other squares, they most likely thought that 8 + 8 is 16 and 8 is the square root of 64 so that's, what the audience thought

@ceiling light Yes I know! what's your point?

@ceiling light Yes I know! what's your point?

Cheese Cake you can't find the square root of negative numbers

Cheese Cake you can't find the square root of negative numbers

@Jollys Heldone 3 square plus 4 square is 25

@Jollys Heldone 3 square plus 4 square is 25

OO iota in the house let's make it a little more shout and go around  a pout

OO iota in the house let's make it a little more shout and go around  a pout

Zero is not a square number. It is clearly very round.

Zero is not a square number. It is clearly very round.

If i is inside the box, wouldn't it also get squared?<br>Don't take me wrong, I've not touched maths since many years.

If i is inside the box, wouldn't it also get squared?
Don't take me wrong, I've not touched maths since many years.

This question is asking of two <b>smaller</b> square numbers. < and > are undefined for complex numbers, 3*i is not necessarily less than or greater than 16

This question is asking of two *smaller* square numbers. < and > are undefined for complex numbers, 3*i is not necessarily less than or greater than 16

@Jollys Heldone why you gotta bring factorials into it :p

@Jollys Heldone why you gotta bring factorials into it :p

@Prateek Bhaisora if you would like.... I can most definitely compare real numbers to complex numbers using lexicographical ordering since ever real number can be written as #+i(0). However you can not not compare complex numbers because there is not total ordering on the complex numbers.

@Prateek Bhaisora relax man, I knew the answer lol. This was just a clever math trick. Lololol I see your point though.

@Prateek Bhaisora relax man, I knew the answer lol. This was just a clever math trick. Lololol I see your point though.

Bro 5 is not smaller than 4 and 3i can't be comapred with 4 smh

Bro 5 is not smaller than 4 and 3i can't be comapred with 4 smh

I really wonder if you answered 16 and then provided that as a proof... if they would then let it slide

I really wonder if you answered 16 and then provided that as a proof... if they would then let it slide

But 5 is bigger than 4² so it wouldn't count ;)

But 5 is bigger than 4² so it wouldn't count ;)

heres to break this beautiful troll

as the author says it can be 16 via (5)^2 + (3i)^2

but 5^2 is 25 is greater than 16
question clearly says smaller numbers

so cheers

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I was thinking square root of 4 is 2 and 4x4 is 16

I was thinking square root of 4 is 2 and 4x4 is 16

Inequalities are not possible in case of complex numbers so basically 3i is not small or big. Your argument is wrong

Inequalities are not possible in case of complex numbers so basically 3i is not small or big. Your argument is wrong

@homeboi808 I certainly did. Sqrt(16) being 4, and sqrt(4) is 2. 2+2=4... which seemed to match the requirements.

Dammit.

@homeboi808 *I* certainly did. Sqrt(16) being 4, and sqrt(4) is 2. 2+2=4... which seemed to match the requirements.

Dammit.

Patel Malvin That's what I was initially thinking until I really studied the question.

Patel Malvin That's what I was initially thinking until I really studied the question.

I know this comment is a troll, and it's quite funny, but 5^ + (3i)^2 = 16 isn't a solution to this particular question because it specifies smaller squares, and with imaginary numbers, you cannot compare them the same way you can with real numbers. In other words, the statements 3i > 5 or 3i < 5 have no meaning because the greater than and less than signs only apply when comparing two real numbers.

@Poco Por Poco 0 raise 0 is not defined. The limit is 1 though.

@Poco Por Poco 0 raise 0 is not defined. The limit is 1 though.

@Aston Smith Well, 0 raise 0 is one,  so not entirely correct.

@Aston Smith Well, 0 raise 0 is one,  so not entirely correct.

@Jollys Heldone You're not trying to find 25! at all. 25! is 25 factorial, or 25 × 24 × 23 × .... ×1.

@Jollys Heldone You're not trying to find 25! at all. 25! is 25 factorial, or 25 × 24 × 23 × .... ×1.

@homeboi808 yes I also initially that this as well. Me stupeed

@homeboi808 yes I also initially that this as well. Me stupeed

@G J That's what SUM means Einstein! and he's a she!

@G J That's what SUM means Einstein! and he's a she!

@Jollys Heldone he never said add them together....

@Jollys Heldone he never said add them together....

@Davey Jones Yeah I know, I made a boo boo.

@Davey Jones Yeah I know, I made a boo boo.

@Vikram Tete Because 16 isn’t smaller than 16.

@Vikram Tete Because 16 isn’t smaller than 16.

Quit using your imagination like that! :P

Quit using your imagination like that! :P

This thread has clearly been created to force me to smash my head into a fucking wall.

Please tell me you are all joking!

This thread has clearly been created to force me to smash my head into a fucking wall.

Please tell me you are all joking!

The real answer is
b)25 = 5^2
5 = 1^2 + 2^2
25 is 5 squared as a (squared number) and 5 is sum of 1 + 2 as (square numbers)

The real answer is
b)25 = 5^2
5 = 1^2 + 2^2
25 is 5 squared as a (squared number) and 5 is sum of 1 + 2 as (square numbers)

FFS... if you lot were in the audience that day, the result would've been the same.

FFS... if you lot were in the audience that day, the result would've been the same.

@BiggieBigs Actually, upon further assessment you speak the truth. This is because you are considering the set of Integers and not the set of Natural numbers (excluding zero). 0 is perfectly reasonable since it is a solution to the square function curve (excluding any constants) and gives a simple output with no decimals when a square root is applied. However, do you think this game show made those underlying assumptions?

@BiggieBigs Because I’m a math teacher and I see these mistakes.

@BiggieBigs Because I’m a math teacher and I see these mistakes.

@Aston Smith Nah 0 is definitely a square number.

@Aston Smith Nah 0 is definitely a square number.

@homeboi808 how the hell did you assume the audience misinterpreted a simple to understand question as a more confusing question that is also completely different from the original question.

But 5^2 is not a smaller square number...

But 5^2 is not a smaller square number...

@Vikram Tete When you raise zero to any power, you'll get zero. Zero isn't a square number. Although, since zero is an identity element of addition, it is valid but not in the context of the question being asked.

@Jollys Heldone i is the imaginary unit. It is equal to the square root of -1.

@Jollys Heldone i is the imaginary unit. It is equal to the square root of -1.

Soumit Sen / Wow, read the question. It has one answer. It said the sum of TWO SMALLER square numbers. 4^2 is not smaller than 4^2. Whereas 3^2+4^2 are both smaller than 5^2

The sum of two SMALLER square numbers, 5^2 isn’t smaller than 4^2

The sum of two SMALLER square numbers, 5^2 isn’t smaller than 4^2

@Mukul Sharma Yeah, I'm thinking "What have I got" I've got 4, 9, 16, oh hang on, 9+16 works? there can't be more than one correct answer, surely, OK question master, 25 final answer, this isn't rocket surgery or brain science lol.

@Jollys Heldone factorial it is ..  if i am right !!

@Jollys Heldone factorial it is ..  if i am right !!

Jollys Heldone 2+2=4, they were thinking “What square number is also a square number and is made up of the sum of its squares”.

Jollys Heldone 2+2=4, they were thinking “What square number is also a square number and is made up of the sum of its squares”.

Snekan 2003 Ahh! yeah that's right, one is irrational and one is imaginary. Been a long time.

Snekan 2003 Ahh! yeah that's right, one is irrational and one is imaginary. Been a long time.

@homeboi808 Agreed. But the sum of 20 wasn't even one of the answers? how can you be confused?

@homeboi808 Agreed. But the sum of 20 wasn't even one of the answers? how can you be confused?

@Jollys Heldone The question said nothing about 25. It said what square number is the sum of two other square numbers. The audience misunderstood that as what square number has its square root also being a square number (and the sum of 2 and 2 is 4, so that also makes it easy to see confusion).

@homeboi808 16 is 4^2 and 4 is 2^2 But you're trying to make 25! 16+4 is not 25! at least not where I come from.

@homeboi808 16 is 4^2 and 4 is 2^2 But you're trying to make 25! 16+4 is not 25! at least not where I come from.

They were thinking 16 is 4^2, and 4 is 2^2. They misunderstood the question.

They were thinking 16 is 4^2, and 4 is 2^2. They misunderstood the question.


to be fair, this one is more of comprehension problem rather than math problem


perfect distribution, from smallest and first number to larges/last. They just picked the first they knew


😂why don't we get this level questions in exams😂


Me, finally glad that learning the 3,4,5 right triangle (the Pythagorean Theorem triangle) was useful after all:


Baby blue song plays in background as Ryan loses hope in humanity🤣🤣🤣


She tried so hard to hint to him that he was wrong. Pointing out the AOL poll wasn't "as good", reminding him he has other lifelines. Then she rambles a bit, I guess because she realizes it's obvious. It was kind of her

She even tried to hint, "Can you figure it out based on what you're seeing here" -- i.e. the second choice (25) is the first choice (16), plus nine. The hint to the answer was right there in front of him.

@VesperAegis News & Games I read it as who was the first president. but ot clearly doesn't fuckong say that so im stupid and should shut the fuck up. same goes for others

@VesperAegis News & Games You just have poor reading and listening comprehension skills then.

@Анатолий Бронштейн amen , wise words

@Анатолий Бронштейн amen , wise words

Absolute dogshit interpretation, nowhere does it restrict you to the same number, under any interpretation of math or the english language, wtf?

@SMT and Earthbound Suck what does that mean lol

@CZghost it's in the context, buddy. 8 was meant to be the answer under the alternative interpretation the guy I was talking to suggested, and 25 was meant to be the right answer. 8 = 2² + 2². Obviously, we have to loosen the requirement of 8 being a square itself, because there's no such n that both n = m² and n = p² + p² with whole n, m and p.

Анатолий Бронштейн

@Анатолий Бронштейн Well, 8 isn't actually a square number, it is a cube number. That means it's not really a valid answer anyway. But I can definitely see how it would throw so many people off :D

You never trust maths solutions to bunch of random people

they do that pretty much every question no matter if you're right or wrong

@Giorgos Maragkopoulos I've never seen the host attempt to trick a contestant in this game

Yes but in such cases the player doesn't know if the presenter want to help you or trick you.

She is not kind all the hosts does that maybe they are instructed to

@Анатолий Бронштейн The issue, of course, is that questioning yourself does not preclude that the bias should be taken completely out of consideration, especially when it could influence how you ultimately arrive at an evidence-based conclusion and the steps required to get to that point.  Indeed, if you find yourself confused, and especially if you are limited on time and scope in what you can do, you should be as efficient as possible while not necessarily abdicating your own independent conclusions.  In this particular case, it makes reasonable sense to assume that the game show's designers did not intend to deceive, especially with a question towards the middling field no doubt more carefully crafted than others, and to work based off of the assumption that there may be an answer under that premise you have not delved into closely enough yet.  Does that mean you shouldn't independently make conclusions?  No.  But we have the benefit of hindsight here and the fact that in this particular case, the assumption did not pay off - in other circumstances, it most definitely would have saved both time and effort.  And very much to the contrary - biases outside the scope of research most certainly can lead you to valid conclusions as a proxy, even if they are purely deductive or inductive based on past experience in causal chains of events in other fields of inquiry.

@VesperAegis News & Games and here's where you are wrong, because nobody's arguing for doubting every step of the way through your everyday life. In fact, your biases outside of the scope of any particular research are irrelevant to the research itself; on the other hand while doing research, certain procedures must be observed lest the research lost all its value. My point was that you absolutely must question yourself when you find yourself confused. If something doesn't make sense to you, take a step back and ask yourself what you are missing.

@VesperAegis News & Games and here's where you are wrong, because nobody's arguing for doubting every step of the way through your everyday life. In fact, your biases outside of the scope of any particular research are irrelevant to the research itself; on the other hand while doing research, certain procedures must be observed lest the research lost all its value. My point was that you absolutely _must_ question yourself when you find yourself confused. If something doesn't make sense _to you,_ take a step back and ask yourself what _you_ are missing.

Анатолий Бронштейн

@Анатолий Бронштейн And yet, all of us do it - even you, whether you realize it or not.  The mind is built from the ground up for biases based on emulation of widest and most redundant preset scenarios, and this even applies to our visual field.  The brain corrects its simulation only when it sees an error in its preset, not before.  The great thing about the logical mind is that we CAN independently confirm formulations and assumptions, but that doesn't mean bias does not exist and can be correctly every time.  We do not live in that ideal world, hence my point about the question appealing to the mind's biases.  Checking for inconsistencies to the point of redundancy when the grand majority of scenarios indicate that the question will be formulated correctly without an appeal to biases of the mind or trickery is most of the time absurdity.  One can waste valuable time and mental resources checking independently, or proceed with some amount of reasonable interpretation and assumption in tow - skipping resource-intensive steps of independent verification for every idiosyncratic element can be quite helpful in most scenarios.  Whether it is correctly worded or not is utterly irrelevant.

Where does she point out that the AOL poll wasn’t “as good”? She just points out that they both agree that the number isn’t great, which is entirely different.

@VesperAegis News & Games they are unreasonable if we are talking about assumptions. You should never assume it is someone else who is wrong and not you. You start with an assumption that the task formulation is correct, and check it for inconsistencies. Only if all checks fail can you conclude that it is indeed incorrect.

Anyway, I don't see how this is relevant. The question was correctly worded, and the answer was correct as well.

@VesperAegis News & Games they are unreasonable if we are talking about _assumptions._ You should never _assume_ it is someone else who is wrong and not you. You start with an assumption that the task formulation is correct, and check it for inconsistencies. Only if all checks fail can you _conclude_ that it is indeed incorrect.

Anyway, I don't see how this is relevant. The question was correctly worded, and the answer was correct as well.

Анатолий Бронштейн

@Анатолий Бронштейн Of course it wouldn't work, that's the problem.  Yet most of us assume that game shows don't make errors, and that it is instead our own dysfunction that is not seeing the proper answer rather than reading the question incorrectly entirely as a premise.  These aren't unreasonable assumptions, frankly.

@VesperAegis News & Games but it wouldn't work even under such an interpretation. Now, if we had both 8 and 25 as possible answers, that'd be funny.

Анатолий Бронштейн

I'll admit this question threw me off as well.  I read it as "the sum of two of the same smaller square numbers" which would be impossible with any of the answers rather than two different smaller square numbers combined.  Evidently threw both the audience and the AOL audience off as well.

It's a quirk of the bias of the mind, I'd argue.  Square roots inevitably require the self-same number, but the question itself allows two that are not the same.

It is the unwritten law of this gameshow to make you second guess yourself.

She really threw him a huge line there and he just didn’t pick up on it.


His face was priceless. He was betrayed lol.


it took me some time, but I realized it was 25 because it’s the sum of 16 and 9, that are also square numbers


Seems like he didn't remember his Pythagorean triplets


Eis que você termina o e.m. e não sabe o teorema de pitágoras kkk


The host was too kind. Hosts in my country confuse people even when they gave the right answer


The guy in the hot seat gets a pass for this. When you're under that amount of stress, all cognitive processes go out the window. Seriously, I can barely think straight when I'm called on in a class, let alone in front of millions of people.
Now the audience, on the other hand...

The guy in the hot seat gets a pass for this. When you're under that amount of stress, all cognitive processes go out the window. Seriously, I can barely think straight when I'm called on in a class, let alone in front of millions of people.
Now the _audience,_ on the other hand...

@Astrielle no one gives a shit no one Pitys you

@Astrielle no one gives a shit no one Pitys you

@Verity58 Finally, someone smart. Good job for not calling him an 'idiot' for not figuring out the answer.

@edeltwice People don't like to think either because they're impatient, lazy, or in a hurry. <br>If those people you ask had just given a little time to think about what you said they could've figured it out. For example, it took me a couple minutes to understand adding 8 hours then switching AM/PM. I thought why switch the AM/PM and then i realized it represented 12 hours going by. 12 + 8 = 20 hours

@edeltwice People don't like to think either because they're impatient, lazy, or in a hurry.
If those people you ask had just given a little time to think about what you said they could've figured it out. For example, it took me a couple minutes to understand adding 8 hours then switching AM/PM. I thought why switch the AM/PM and then i realized it represented 12 hours going by. 12 + 8 = 20 hours

@Astrielle Yep. I'm a high school teacher, and a huge part of my job is reducing the stress level of my students so I can get an accurate idea of what they know, rather than whatever they can push through the fog of terror they feel when they take a test or speak in front of a class.

Dude ...u can do it in your head...come ON

Dude ...u can do it in your head...come ON

@Youkei Sesshomaru How could it have been stated more clearly?

@Youkei Sesshomaru How could it have been stated more clearly?

@Arav Sri Agarwal My school sure must've sucked 20ish years ago. This was considered a 6th grade question. Lousy USA schools go figure the usual if anything.

Bruh the question was extremely unclear. That’s why people got it wrong. They aren’t stupid.

Bruh the question was extremely unclear. That’s why people got it wrong. They aren’t stupid.

@edeltwice Omg, that's awesome! I'm gonna use that method now.

@edeltwice Omg, that's awesome! I'm gonna use that method now.

That's exactly what this boi would say...

That's exactly what this boi would say...

I'm not sure he knows what a square number is. When the question was read, he said "square numbers..." like he was trying to remember what that is.

@Astrielle Stop putting words in his mouth lmao

@Astrielle Stop putting words in his mouth lmao

@Kalel Castro this is a common misconception. People should take a moment to think instead of jumping on conclusion or atleast they can google it.<br>Square number is a number of the form n*n where n is an integer and it's same as a perfect square.

@Kalel Castro this is a common misconception. People should take a moment to think instead of jumping on conclusion or atleast they can google it.
Square number is a number of the form n*n where n is an integer and it's same as a perfect square.

@Kalel Castro tbh I answered this in less than 7 seconds but I understand what you are saying. It's a 15 grand question, he should have taken his time no matter what

@Ayush Mishra heard someone say it should be ‘square integers’ instead of numbers. or a perfect square.

@Ayush Mishra I think they made it look like he had to answer it immediately. I’d take a minute to recall my maths lessons and then the question cause I’m on vacation. Then spend another minute trying out all the combinations. Simple if you get the question but takes a lot of time to calculate each option.

Audience just reminds me that no matter what I do, I can at least be <i>slightly</i> above average

Audience just reminds me that no matter what I do, I can at least be _slightly_ above average

If that's the case, why didn't he fail on the questions he already answered?  If he was nervous, it was because it was a subject he was not good at and he knew it.  It's not like he walked in off the street.  The contestant coordinator knew that he had the kind of personality they wanted. He just got flummoxed by math, like I would have been flummoxed by a Bible question or one about the Wild West or rap music.

@edeltwice One of my late uncles once called me at 4 am in Tokyo from New York.  I jumped up out of bed, answered the phone, heard his voice, and shouted, "Did someone die?"  He said that everything was fine.  Why did I think someone had died, he wondered.  I told him it was 4am.  Why would he call at 4am unless someone had died?  To which he replied, "Oh, we're sorry.  We couldn't remember if Tokyo was around 12 or 24 hours ahead of NY."  (Depending on whether it's DST in the USA, it's 13 or 14.)  I had to remind him that if it were 24 hours, Tokyo and NY would have to be in the same time zone, like Boston and NY.  He didn't really get it.  I don't think he understood the time zone system and how to use it.  He was trying to learn a list of facts:  London is so and so many hours ahead. Bombay (what it was called then) is so and so many.  Tokyo is so and so many.  Individual facts, instead of patterns or systems.  The whole reason that standard time zones were introduced is that no one could keep track of all the different times, as trains went from town to town, this one two minutes ahead of the previous one, the next one four minutes ahead of this one.  Perhaps this allegiance to rote memorization (when  most of what you memorize is forgotten) instead of the famous "learn how to think" part of education is the real problem.

On the other hand, here in Japan, I have given up asking students to debate the value of keeping standard time all year or switching to DST in the summer.  Inevitably, I get students who insist, "You can't change time.  It's part of nature."

I have also had relatives who were baffled as to the Celsius temperature system.  How do you know if it is warm or cold when it's 20 degrees C.?  I answered, "How do you know if it's warm or cold when it's 20 degrees F.?"
"Well, it's really cold."
"Yes, but how do you know that?"
"Because 20 degrees is cold!"
"Yes, but how did you find that out?  You went outside when you were a little kid and it was 20 degrees and your mother made sure you were bundled up.
"I don't want to put on my wool jacket!"
"You have to. It's only 20 degrees outside."
Even so, the cold stung the skin on the part of your face that wasn't covered.   That's how you learned that 20 degrees is really cold."
"But don't you have to calculate something? Isn't that difficult?"
"You can, but why bother when the easiest thing is to check the temperature on the thermometer or the news, 20 degrees C., open the front door and feel what 20 degrees C. feels like.  Now without any calculation, you have learned what 20 degrees C. feels like, not too warm and not too cold.  Why would you want to calculate it in Fahrenheit degrees?"
Puzzled look on their faces, like, "Why wouldn't you?" as if everything had to be translated back into something they have long been familiar with in order to be valid.

@Blake McNamara probably a school in a country outside of the United States. I'm sure it has changed in the last 20 or so years, but back in 1999, 7th graders in the US were still doing multiplication tables while Bulgarian 7th graders were learning algebra. So, depending on the school system, I can easily see this being 2nd grade stuff

Especially when the audience gave the wrong answer

Especially when the audience gave the wrong answer

@The Caynuck The question is very clear. Sum of two smaller square numbers. There's no confusion at all.

How can someone get a pass for being on the hot seat and not able to solve elementary maths

How can someone get a pass for being on the hot seat and not able to solve elementary maths

@Kalel Castro no, there was no time limit

@Kalel Castro no, there was no time limit

@edeltwice They added 2 days and then their 20 hours so technically day-irrelevant they would've been fine.

@HyperNoVa496 - is this time limited though? because it can be simple but then takes time to brute force through all the options and check them each.

@Blake McNamara this shit is easy lol. As long as you understand the definition of a squared number, which should be anyone above the age of 11 . Then you should be able to get this question right, even if it takes you a minute.

@Blake McNamara high school freshman? People learn squares and square roots in 3rd or 4th grade now.

@Astrielle the problem isnt the contestant but the audience who were basically under no pressure

@Astrielle the problem isnt the contestant but the audience who were basically under no pressure

@Humza it is easy, but the question is phrased weirdly in a way many could understandably be confused by

@Arav Sri Agarwal It is absolutely not. This is more like a high school freshman math question. What kind of school did you go to where they were doing square roots in Second Grade?

I see some commenters not familiar with how anxiety works. That's okay, just please don't assume that you know how it must feel at the moment.

For me, it feels like all associative and pattern-matching functions (something very important for math questions!) just stop working. I wouldn't in a million years make a connection to 3-4-5. Thankfully, the math here is basic, and I would certainly remember what square numbers are and how addition works, so I would just start mindlessly iterating through calculations 49-4, 49-36, 49-16, etc. I think I would arrive at a correct answer eventually, it would just take me a minute or two.

Some people are just shit at math
If you can't handle the anxiety then how about you PRACTICE beforehand(believe it or not, that actually works)
1.000.000$ should be worth it

Bruh I'm 30 yrs old. And that is like asking a 10 year old what's 1+1 is. Literally the easiest question anybody could have gotten.

@edeltwice oooh, innumerate, I learned a new, useful word today. Usually I just say math is evil when I tell people I can't do it.

@britheramer Ahh yes, having to answer a question for $15,000 is just a normal life circumstance, and this only involves basic mathematical principles

I'm gonna be real, this doesn't even seem like an easy question.  Yeah, with a bit of time anyone can just find the answer, or simply have the common 3-4-5 right triangle already in mind, but I wouldn't really expect more than 75% of people to get this right in this scenario.  Too much pressure and too little time.

I do feel like you'd soon settle in to a slightly less uncomfortable state where you're capable of thought, but just second-guess all your immediate thoughts.

@Chris Webster i didn't say anything slightly offensive mate. Why so serious?

@Chris Webster i didn't say anything slightly offensive mate. Why so serious?

@Eezlum Mockelchev Yeah, peoples that make 180 grand a year. It takes most peoples a lot longer than a month to make that much, mate.

I’ve probably got that much in my couch cushions, of course, but I’m not most peoples. I tip that much when I eat at a cheap restaurant, if the service is bad, but I’m unbelievably rich.

@dujoboi mate its for 15gs. Peoples bust their asses off for a month to earn something like that.

@dujoboi mate its for 15gs. Peoples bust their asses off for a month to earn something like that.

the question was weirldy put as well so that also kinda excuses him

the question was weirldy put as well so that also kinda excuses him

Bruh but this is a 2nd grade math question

Bruh but this is a 2nd grade math question

No fucking way lol, this is way too easy to get wrong.

No fucking way lol, this is way too easy to get wrong.

@teapotmonkey Shows how immature you are. People like you don't claim anxiety to be true. I myself have social anxiety, and despite liking math, when under a lot of anxiety and stress, my cognitive functions start to decrease and hence the answer is not correct. I'm a introvert and social anxiety affects me a lot.

A lot of people are functionally innumerate. They just don't need math in their day-to-day lives. Last year I watched someone ask their smartphone what time it would be in 20 hours. I told them they could just subtract 4 from the current time, and they looked at me like I was an idiot. Or, I suggested, you could add 8 and swap the AM/PM. "That doesn't even make any sense," they said.

The next day, I saw a different coworker had done the same task without asking their phone. They had actually added 68 hours instead of 20. No idea how they got that figure.

I wish they had just used their phone :(

Oh yeah I feel the same way as well. My brain just turns off whenever I'm under pressure and it sucks lmao


i love how the audience just immediately start clapping
like they wanted him to lose
edit: This is the ultimate villain origin story


I just got it by looking at the thumbnail, I never thought the 3-4-5 rule from the Pythagorean Theorem would prove useful.


Imagine if he was the kid in classs who'd say why so i need this in life


I was about to say 16 then I thought “wait SQUARE NUMBERS, not numbers that lead to squares” then just remembered the high school equation, 3^2+4^2=5^2


I’m actually used to it at school. I come across 3² + 4² = 5²  quite often, especially if I first saw it utilized on the Pythagorean triple. Everyone uses those numbers when talking about the Pythagorean Theorem.<br>However, there were other times where those numbers show up. I’ve seen them while calculating the distance between two points on a coordinate plane using the distance-formula, and graphing quadratics like 2x² -2x +1.

I’m actually used to it at school. I come across 3² + 4² = 5²  quite often, especially if I first saw it utilized on the Pythagorean triple. Everyone uses those numbers when talking about the Pythagorean Theorem.
However, there were other times where those numbers show up. I’ve seen them while calculating the distance between two points on a coordinate plane using the distance-formula, and graphing quadratics like 2x² -2x +1.

Take m,n positive integers with m>n. Then the infinite set of Pythagorean Triples (a,b,c) satisfying
a^2 + b^2 = c^2 is given by the generator formula: k(m^2 - n^2, 2mn, m^2 + n^2), for any k positive integer.

Proof:
 (k(m^2 - n^2))^2 + (2kmn)^2 = k^2(m^4 - 2m^2n^2 + n^4 + 4m^2n^2)

= k^2(m^2 + 2m^2n^2 + n^4) = (k(m^2 + n^2))^2

The condition m>n>0 ensures that a,b,c>0 (obvious).

m = 2 and n = 1 gives the basic Pythogarean Triple (3,4,5) in the primitive case k = 1. k simply means that any scalar multiple of a Triple is also a Triple.

@Big Boy If you're talking about the United States, it makes sense, because many of the top engineers are immigrants. Also, as an American, advanced students here learn it in 8th grade while average students learn it in 9th grade. I see nothing advanced here.

@Ghana Ria you just don’t know what sum means

@Ghana Ria you just don’t know what sum means

@Yujiro Hanma "A sum of smaller squares" : 2^2 + 2^2 + 2^2 + 2^2 = 16 (4^2), just as much as 3^2 + 4^2 = 25 (5^2).
<br>They simply added "two square numbers", to make it more clear which one was correct.

@Yujiro Hanma "A sum of smaller squares" : 2^2 + 2^2 + 2^2 + 2^2 = 16 (4^2), just as much as 3^2 + 4^2 = 25 (5^2).
They simply added "two square numbers", to make it more clear which one was correct.

@Giant Axe it's basic question tbh there shouldn't be much thinking involved

@Avni Aggarwal could you expand a bit on this. I understand if you do apply some amount of critical thinking to this problem you have a good chance at coming up with the right answer, however what thought approach would be necessary here and how much effort should be allocated to determining a solution?

no way you’ve seen a 3 4 5 triangle 🤯🤯🤯🤯

no way you’ve seen a 3 4 5 triangle 🤯🤯🤯🤯

Shows up pretty often in introductory special relativity as well. (Calculating beta factors under the Lorentz expression, the slopes in a space-time worldline). But they appeared just about anywhere yeah, just a matter of actually being familiar with those.

It’s literally just the 3 4 5 right triangle

It’s literally just the 3 4 5 right triangle

@Cookie i wrote that 5 months ago man you're like the 5th person to tell me

@BlazoRaptor it was perfectly phrases because it asks for the sum.

@BlazoRaptor it was perfectly phrases because it asks for the sum.

@Waseem just because you're jealous that you don't understand it doesn't mean other people won't appreciate the comment.

@BlazoRaptor Uhh it was clearly phrased. It clearly uses the word "sum" which only has one meaning in mathematics.

me when explained in my native language Vs me when explained in English

me when explained in my native language Vs me when explained in English

@Big Boy It's extremely basic, learned that in 6th grade in France
And it's also a textbook example of trivial Euclidean distance in 2D, it comes up frequently if you have a nice teacher that doesn't want to make your life miserable with square roots all around
On the non-expert scale, you could consider trigonometry to be halfway there and calculus to be fairly advanced. Still at the end of high school you should know all of that.

From where I come from, we learn that at seventh grade in basic geometry if I remember correctly. Whats more interesting is that if we change the way we measure distance, than Pythagorean theorem may not hold, this can be discussed in general metric spaces where the definition of distance function can vary. For instance taking the surface of a sphere, and defining distance with great circles.

@Ghana Ria its clearly say sum....not product  :/

@Ghana Ria its clearly say sum....not product  :/

Yeah there’s no good reason that a crowd of adults should’ve missed that

@Waseem Well they should so they stop being stupid.

@Waseem Well they should so they stop being stupid.

@VectorAlphaAI No, not everyone is a nerd or sees the world how you do.

@VectorAlphaAI No, not everyone is a nerd or sees the world how you do.

yeah, like 3 4 5 give you a perfect square (meaning right angle)

yeah, like 3 4 5 give you a perfect square (meaning right angle)

It comes up often in quadratic equations as well.

It comes up often in quadratic equations as well.

@LuskyMJ <br>I meant that I learned the Pythagorean theorem first, then distance formula later.

@LuskyMJ
I meant that I learned the Pythagorean theorem first, then distance formula later.

@Ardyneus I don't know who taught you bet I've never heard someone not talk about pythagoras when talking about the distance formula.

@LuskyMJ
Of course I know that.
It’s just that they aren’t usually taught together, so I technically I see them at different times.

You do realise that the distance formula is just pythagoras right? Seeing the triple show up when calculating the distance between two points isn't "Other times where those numbers show up", it's the excact same.

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@aryaj singh I thought 5,12,13 is exactly the next Pythagorean triple after 3,4,5?

People actually knew about this triple without knowing about the pythagorean theorem. Plenty of engineers used that triple instead of the formula to measure out their buildings.

Did you see the Pythagorean triple at school in the US?

Did you see the Pythagorean triple at school in the US?

@BlazoRaptor it said of 2 smaller square numbers

@BlazoRaptor it said of 2 smaller square numbers

@Big Boy and all those engineers know the pythagorean triple

@Big Boy and all those engineers know the pythagorean triple

@Ghana Ria if that was the case, the question would have said "product" and not "sum". Though i think "product" would have confused this guy even more

@BlazoRaptor it was clear. It asks about the sum, not product.

@BlazoRaptor it was clear. It asks about the sum, not product.

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They're easy numbers that get put in questions in middle school/early high school math, but an adult might not remember perfect right triangles after all that time.

Exactly! Pythagorean formula, 25 final answer

Exactly! Pythagorean formula, 25 final answer

Ghana ria: that would be the product not the sum.

Ghana ria: that would be the product not the sum.

This was an easy question for me. If you think about it you can actually figure out the answer

I think problem is the writing of the question. At first I didn't understand it well. Until second reading the I could guess right answer. Yet I didn't remember about Pythagoras at all.

@Waseem Nah, but like the people above, they jizz at knowing things that have no place in this world, lol.

@Shreeshanth Kadam haha nice pythagorean is considered advanced math over here yet we have some of the best engineers in the world makes sense lol

@Big Boy we don't have anything like that in India. just maths.

@Big Boy we don't have anything like that in India. just maths.

This comment is for people that took advanced math courses in school

This comment is for people that took advanced math courses in school

I am also used to reading this exact question word by word in Pythagorean triplets.

@Aryahmmr on pc, use alt.<br>On Android, long press the number.

@Aryahmmr on pc, use alt.
On Android, long press the number.

Yeah it's common to use 3²+4²=5² but it is also common to use 5²+12²=13²

Yes! Pythagorean theorem! That's also why I knew it

Yes! Pythagorean theorem! That's also why I knew it

@Aryahmmr you just hold the alt gr key and then press the number like ² in this comment.

what's more impressive here is how you put exponents in a YT comment! how did you do it?

@Ghana Ria i also read it like that. The question wasn't very clearly phrased.

I thought they were asking for which two numbers that make a squared number, also happen to be squared numbers themselves. So the answer would be A: 16–> 4*4, 4 is a squared number. I read the question wrong.

It’s worth noting that the distance formula is just the Pythagorean theorem applied to the coordinate plane, so it makes sense for 3-4-5 to show up in it as well.


If I was in the audience I would answer wrong on purpose, and then burst out in laughter when he loses.


I must admit, I don't remember ever coming across the expression 'square number'.
Looking at the question, I figured out what it means.

However, if I was just asked 'What is a square number', I wouldn't have known for sure.

Closest I could come up with is 11 which is at least a parallelogram (in sans serif)


Ahh math don't go so well with certain ppl, but damn the audience is definitely drinking something that I want lmaooooooo


This should've been the million dollar question.


That's not just math, it's also basic carpentry.


English is not my mother language but I'm even understand it bro... I'm also a machanical engineering student lol