The reason that Celesta and luna went along with it. Was that the three villains would be able to talk to one another while in stone. Making their one hell.


My headcanon is that Discord can see the future, past,ect.We can see that he has no problem to deal with powerful things like death,Tartarus,others dimensions and summoning evil plants that even the tree of harmony can’t make them disappear but just can hold it. I think that he have no problem to deal with taking Grogar’s Bell he knows that the evil trio gonna take it, that the princesses gonna forgive him ,ect.The final is his plan like he does before with Sombra . So now that we know that , it’s easy to think that even turned to stone , he can still see what’s gonna happen and what is happening (that’s why he know for the name of the manes six). The evil trio don’t have this power of knowing what’s gonna happen, ect, so they can’t know what’s happening when they are turned to stone (not even see or hear).

I have another headcanon that Discord is actually more powerful that the tree of harmony , there are the evils plants that the tree can’t make it disappear (like I said earlier) and the thing that without the manes six the elements can easily be stolen or broken BUT with the mane six the elements are untouchables , it’s mean it’s when the elements’s spell is active , so Discord can’t deal with that and got turned to stone , nobody can deal with the elements’s spell , it don’t mean it’s stronger , it’s mean it’s unavoidable , Discord can do magic without the help of someone (contrary to the tree of harmony) and is unbreakable ( well, he can break to multiples pieces but he can deal with it like nothing happen). We didn’t see Discord’s magic being limited of something (except for the tree´s spell) but we see the tree´s spell and power being limited multiples times .

Sorry, I know it’s very long but it’s a theory (and headcanon) that I have for a long time.


I have an idea to reform Cozy Glow, but not the morally right option.
First: Use Luna to put her in a horrifying nightmare. How long? Long enough to break her mentally.
Second: Now that you broke her mentally, you start the rebuilding process. work with her, take care of her. Give her a new personality and self and give her new styles and looks.
The best way to reform her and make her better for society.
Trust me it works most of the times.


Grogar is Soo fluffy looking I just want to pet him all day 😍😍

Princesses: NOOOOO!! You Can't Just Pet The Evil Goat

Me: Ha Ha Goat Go Baaaaa


Lol it’s ridiculous how people treated Discord as a fool.
He has proven himself to have the ability to see the future and guiding the mane 6 to achieve the goal .
He is much more powerful than the elements of harmony but the power of friendship through the elements beat Discord .
Final note , Discord is the Strongest being of all time with the only weakness is anti-magic


I'd say that it's not so much tat discord's magic is weaker than the elements of harmony but rather that the two magics just counteract with each over and when opposing each over the elements of harmony win out because it likely also uses the magic of the casters along with it's own, you know, all harmoniously like. nothing to my knowledge says in the show whether it's the actual strength of the magic or they way the magics interact, just that the elements of harmony are extremely powerful and that they beat chaos magic. heck as far as we know it could be like pokemon; when opposite types oppose one is stronger than the other but when they're together they bolster each other.


If you wanted to put it in theory with the Bell if his Essence was fused into an object. Possibly breaking it could have released him


they are not actually gone, but they might come out by the end of the universe, when time MIGHT reverse time, allowing the three to live backwards in time, and grogar might actually come back at that time with the help of a time travel spell, causing him to live after the death of the universe

Or grogar just used a time travel spell into the far future, skipping Twighlight's reign


The second Chrisaliys,tirek and cozy glow were turned to stone I knew just like discord there gonna come back and wait for the right time to try to conquer Equestria but the mane 6 wouldn’t be able to do anything but Twilight but theres another layer cuz the entire mane 6 is old now and Twilight can’t do anything alone so just like Celestia she’ll just give the challenge to Luster Dawn,her top student from Celestia’s school.


If that scenario does happen in the future, we'll be ready for it, because we save the world together.


Hope we can see him in next movie or some other special :3


Who do you come up with these awesome theories?! Im jelous😢


In my opinion I think they might come back. if they make season 10 of My Little Pony. because if Discord can be reformed. I think they can to with with a little guidance I don't know if Twilight Will Survive a thousand years thing and I'm pretty sure her friends won't but I can't say but I love the season 9 ending but at the same time it leaves a bit bittersweet because during that season 9 when the bad guys team up. They kind of getting along somewhat and they almost believe friendship is Magic and maybe the only way for them to get along but again this is my opinion and I hope they make season 10 we'll come back someday or come back as a movie or comic I'm good with either or.


One theory I would like to share is that Grogar did die and the proof is the lair these three used in S9. Notice how it looks like a goat's skull? 😏


I dont think Discord was really trying to test the mane six as much as he was trying to give the villains a chance at redemption, after all he could change his ways slightly, so that means everyone can do it, right?, i mean its not like he doesnt believe they are capable, after all he thought Tireks friendship was genuine (VERY naive on his part).
The thing he isnt taking into account here is that he wasnt really all that evil, i mean in the comics (I know, i know hurr durr the comics are not canon, i dont care) in the Cosmos arc its shown that during Discord´s reign he didnt really intend to harm anyone, of course he did cause mischief but not serious harm.
When Cosmos takes things too far he tries to save the ponies and stop her, and he outright says that he doesnt want to harm the ponies or get them killed.
He was easy to manipulate because he was lonely, he also believed her to be his friend (although her attitude and the way she treats him and gets jealous of Fluttershy really puts "friend" in quotes)
But what im getting at is that he would not bring someone as dangerous as Grogar back.
he only  brought back villains he could safely handle (after all he was able to stand against king sombra, Tirek didnt have magic to feed from, Chrysalis had just lost her subjects and Cosy is just a child) he underestimated them and was obviously not expecting them to team up against him.


What if the sirens somehow go back to equestria and get their magic back and then Tirek, cosy glow and criserlys come back and team up with the sirens... that would be bad.

P.S: sorry if I spelt some names wrong


I have theory about what happened to the villains after turned to stone.
I think grogar broke the spell!
 sounds crazy right?
I'm guessing Grogar turned Cozy glow into an alicorn and gave the bell to her!
Cozy glow then runs away to have fun.


"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die."


Interesting, sounds cool and maybe possible in the comic. I think.


Yep and it gives a chance for the end of the entire mlp series for us to see 1 Nightmare moon return 2 possibly daybreaker 3 celestia and Luna's true power on a villain and 4 possibly a fan villain if Hasbro ever decides on doing that (the last one is a dream of mine since my OC is a villain that'd fit nicely  in with the others)


My Headcanon?  Now that Twilight is Princess?  Time to start acting as a Princess!  That means more travel across the planet and meeting with dignitaries and the leaders of other cultures... and possibly having to deal with THEIR villains...

Wicked Weed Sorceress Katrina of Abyssinia, here we come!


It would be interesting if in the future after the end of the series: Equestria faces A new challenge of a militant organization that operates outside Royal command, their purpose is to revolutionize and defend Equestria by learning and adapting with all the information being valid with no mares tales & unifying All Creatures in part of the Equestrian Guard. This equestrian Union is led by a former Royal Guardsmen who learned through all the battles at the Mane 6, there's the shoes of Celestia's plans and the fault of her leadership, plans to save Equestria in his own way while denouncing Celestia as a traitor/Failure, & televises the morality of the Mane 6 by questioning them of the choices of how the villains are dealt with in contrast to one another. With this rivalry of head-butting methods & philosophies of the Equestrian Union and the Royal Alliance; this could start a new Civil War within each of the kingdoms! Rise of the Equestrian Union / Equestrian Civil War.


Could a soul linger? Dead yet still floating amongst life, unable to interact with the living, only to have the tiniest window in history to escape that zone and enact a possible plan?

Maybe...maybe.


discord got freed once the sisters lost conection to the elements, and the sisters and discord are immortal plus discord is MUCH stronger then tirek, chrysalis and cozy glow.


I think that discord would never would bring back grogar because he only did it to boost twilight's confidence when becoming a real princess, and I'm pretty sure that the reason the elements "defeated" discord was because he was being overconfident that he could be defeated and wasn't trying to stop it and I'm pretty sure discord could freeze them in stone forever due to him being able to manipulate almost everything and even if they were to try to escape (cozy glow, chrysalis, tirek) discord probably have it alert him to be able to re freeze them in stone and it's probably heavily guarded (the area where the statue is in on the last problem)


I do really hated that, they have turned Cozy Glow to stone.
Nd that they have thrown her to Tartarus in the first place.
It was the most unpony soluation ever.
And making Grogar a farce.
Beh!
Your idea bring me hope at least


If that thumbnail is anything to go by, they have more to worry about the Taco Bell than Grogar's bell.


I can imagine Lauren doing a Young Six sequel to friendship is magic, maybe they’ll deal with it


if grogar actually returns in the comics by discords help i think discord will only do it so that twilight can meet his father grogar and so that she can help him show his father everything she and her friends taught him over the years and maybe even have grogar share those same lessons with tirek, chrysalis, and cozy glow, should one day return unless they explain that they heard everything, from twilight still getting use to being queen of equestria, to the mane 5 missing twilight and spike, to the young 6 scared of failing their professors in defending the land should the day come when twilight needs them to take their place even to the point where they heard discord say that he wanted his father grogar to learn the magic of friendship basically implying that twilight was right that nothing any of them does makes any difference which means the villains will have a stronger victory where twilight surrenders her crown and throne to the three villains and exiles herself leaving her own friends to be slaves to the villains meaning that grogar might be the one to save the day and return twilight's crown and throne in the comics of season 10


Unless discord decided to send teachers to teach them while their frozen then yeah it's possible that they're going to go vengeful.


Cozy would die for sure after she'd be released from stone, I mean discord is immortal but Cozy .....


I hope we will see Grogar in Season 10 Comic version.


I think all three will return at some point. If not on tv or movies, then in future comics. They are too good not to include somewhere in the future. (I also won't write off The Mane 6 and the CMC's appearing somewhere post Season 10 in the comics).


Discord could rule equestria if he wanted to. He let the main six to turn him into stone. He even put target on him.


What if Gusty the Great was much smarter than Celestia and Luna and didn't try to imprison Grogar straight away and somehow convicted him to tone it down with being evil and be neutral, gray in exchange for her becoming immortal and his friend forever? Or some kind of bet

I got that idea from some fanfiction on fanfiction about Grogar coming back from his vacation after villains were sealed in stone while being friends with Gusty
here https://www.fimfiction.net/story/448608/grogars-return


About the 3 villains I'm pretty sure they'll be able to break the frick frack outta there.
Why this? Because discord. I legit just noticed that when the cmcs were near discord they were mean instead of nice to eachother. Ahem opposite personalities. And how did the main 6 act under discord's spell hmm? Exactly. So maybe response to dark magic around those that were trapped inside stone can build up and cause a breakthrough letting those that were trapped out.
Then again he may have been building up power (somehow) to break free and decided to do it at that exact moment cus plot-
Anyway if he did it why can't the villains? Speaking of which I needa go and see the last ep again cus where did they put the statue? Twilight's castle? Her school? A fricking garden? Who knows but if anything they might be able to bust on outta there.
Idk sounds dumb but oh well-

About the 3 villains I'm pretty sure they'll be able to break the frick frack outta there.
Why this? Because discord. I legit just noticed that when the cmcs were near discord they were mean instead of nice to eachother. Ahem *_opposite_* personalities. And how did the main 6 act under discord's spell hmm? Exactly. So maybe response to dark magic around those that were trapped inside stone can build up and cause a breakthrough letting those that were trapped out.
Then again he may have been building up power (somehow) to break free and decided to do it at that exact moment cus *plot-*
Anyway if he did it why can't the villains? Speaking of which I needa go and see the last ep again cus where *_did_* they put the statue? Twilight's castle? Her school? A fricking garden? Who knows but if anything they might be able to bust on outta there.
Idk sounds dumb but oh well-


Technically speaking one villain has died and almost certainly won't come back, the Storm King. That boy got SMASHED, he's the most dead anyone on the show has gotten. I don't think some glue is fixing that guy anytime soon.


honestly.. the future of friendship is magic will likely get more.. regional. picture this.. the young 6 graduate! and then what.. conflicts between entire races? we already know the lands outside equestria are in disarray. With the change in leadership the time is ripe for testing the new pony in charge. 2000 years or more of knowing your limits against celestia just went up in smoke. even just all the nations showing up at once might send twiggly into one of her panic attacks.


Actually My little Pony Friendship is magic is free of the strict rules of being a kid show of hasbro.

Season 10 is going to be a comic book series which means Darker stories are allowed. This means question like what actually happened to applejack, Big Mac and Apple Bloom’s parents? Could be answered.  With the comic of Anon-a-miss there was hints about the forbidden S word and D words.

So I’m actually excited for the comics. And who knows how dark they will be?

Technically the comics books may be another big book. After all when one legend ends it’s also the start of a completely new legend too


Personally I think that if they ever were to come back chrysalis will not turn to friendship still but will just stop trying to take over place Cosy Glow will most likely end up heart broken because everyone she’s ever known will be gone so she’ll probably be reliving her life so she doesn’t lose it again and Terreck he probably will end up like chrysalis not turning to friendship but not fighting for anything either and Groger he probably was trapped somewhere and is immortal that was probably taken from him so odds are his skeleton is long gone of course these are just theories and sorry for any names I spelled wrong


Eh whatever, in this show there's no real long-lasting battle between villains and good guys.

Every time when they fight its only max 2 episodes and either they are banished, imprisoned or run away

Some will return at the starting or ending episodes of a season and that's it

There are no battle's but one or two big ones and that's it


If no-ones ever gone, THE STORM KING!!!!!!!!!!!!


Man, I love when my favorite shows are overthought.  (Not sarcasm)


Is it bad I kinda like cosy glow, I mean she’s adorable.


When Discord return it is because the element were no longer connected to celestia and Luna, but in the ending of the end celestia and Luna don't use in the element of harmony to turn the villains in to stone and tha't mean celestia Luna and Discord use different spell.


I have a idea for a video what would chrysalis look like if she transformed like the changelings :)


Maybe they will show what happened in the middle of the huge time jump in the s10 comic. Just a hunch:D


Somehow I have a new word for the MLP fandom after seeing the word pegasisters. Unicousins would be nice, right?


I have a question,are Alicorns immortal?


5.20, except the 3 don't like each other and a good chuck of their time together will be spent arguing with each other.They likely can communicate with each other despite being in there.


Celestia said that when Mane 6 get a crystals of Harmony, it weakned their spell on the Discord


What if Grogar didn't get banished what he escape to a secret place where no one can find him


I think I'm in the brony phase...

And I'm proud!


What if Grogar was indeed sent to the human world. Many he was sealed in that statue that midnight sparkle destroyed. As you said, tirek needed time to gain strength again so maybe Grogar is now ready.

Or the theory I wrote last time. https://youtu.be/IWSt9-CrmfM


Mlp has a problem with past events and I mean that at the beginning of the series we were told that Luna was expelled 1000 years ago a month ago, and we get into this problem because later we learn that shadow pony was expelled to limbo the same supposedly 1000 years ago and this is where the problem is because Luna's and Celestia's teacher say they were created last time.  And another problem is that when Luna and Celestia then captured Discord and King Sombra?


I still believe that Groger in discord are the same 😼


Me wonder if grogar was considered father of monsters would that not mean changelings(even though he didn't think they be corrupted or reformed) , centaur's like teirek, windigos, and perhaps discord where his creations maybe he was one who gave stygan power of darkness to make him pony of shadows


There's going to be ancient ledgends about those three isn't there?


Or put the statue in Tartarous so when the spell wares off then they will already be trapped..?


If you ask me, those 3 are going to destroy the world.


Grogar was a villain in the earlier Generations before friendship is Magic


So, will you be looking at the season 10 comics for further lore, or are you just sticking to the actual show?


Their is a broken link I’ve noticed for a while, Prince blue blood, the sisters’ NEPHEW. That means their’s three sisters, so where is the third?


There is an upcoming comic which is a crossover between mlp and transformers! I am so excited!!! This combines to of my favorite things!!😆😆😆😆


The only way I see them being released is if their “element”, if you will, gets demonstrated in front of them. Like how discord was released when the cutie Mark Crusaders represented discord’s element by arguing with each other. While yes, the magic on him was weakened over time, it needs a trigger to break. I imagine cozy’s is deceit, Tirek’s is probably stolen magic or something, and chrysalis’ could be tyrannical rule. Those “elements” would most likely be the trigger to releasing them.

Gacha band <br>Thank you. I appreciate your official surrender

Gacha band
Thank you. I appreciate your official surrender

Gacha band
1. I can’t barely understand your first sentence
2. Discord is not a literal spirit, he represents the spirit of discord much like how twilight represents the spirit of magic/friendship
3. The amulet that Trixie used did not only work for her, it clearly was used in the past
While magic does depend on the caster’s unique abilities, like how twilight can teleport while rarity can not, objects don’t work only for one specific person. That much is obvious as Grogar’s bell worked for people other than himself. Obviously if there was some way to prevent an item’s inherent magical ability to be used by others, he would have done so. And while a magical spell’s ability to be broken depends on who the caster is, we have seen that both the magic of the sisters and discord can be broken or a the very least halted. Therefore your argument is completely invalid.
1. I can barely comprehend what you are even saying, I only understood through sheer context as your writing is near incomprehensible
2. You spelled so many words incorrectly (you really need to enable autocorrect)
And 3. You are using the same argument that I have no repeatedly proven wrong with a variety of examples, including your own.
In conclusion, you are arguing with someone who took AP English classes for fun and also obsessed over every detail of this show, watching it in its entirety at least 12 times.

Gacha band
1. I can’t barely understand your first sentence
2. Discord is not a literal spirit, he *represents* the spirit of discord much like how twilight represents the spirit of magic/friendship
3. The amulet that Trixie used did not only work for her, it clearly was used in the past
While magic does depend on the caster’s unique abilities, like how twilight can teleport while rarity can not, objects don’t work only for one specific person. That much is obvious as Grogar’s bell worked for people other than himself. Obviously if there was some way to prevent an item’s inherent magical ability to be used by others, he would have done so. And while a magical spell’s ability to be broken depends on who the caster is, we have seen that both the magic of the sisters and discord can be broken or a the very least halted. Therefore your argument is completely invalid.
1. I can barely comprehend what you are even saying, I only understood through sheer context as your writing is near incomprehensible
2. You spelled so many words incorrectly (you really need to enable autocorrect)
And 3. You are using the same argument that I have no repeatedly proven wrong with a variety of examples, including your own.
In conclusion, you are arguing with someone who took AP English classes for fun and also obsessed over every detail of this show, watching it in its entirety at least 12 times.

Gacha band <br>Yes anything is possible, however there are rules to how this “anything” is achieved. For example, when Twilight recited Starswirled’s spell, she couldn’t simply say it in reverse or buy a potion, she had to remind them of their friendship and who they are, including their elements. Or another example of how harmonic magic is key, when discord turned the mane six into their opposites and made flutter shy mean, rainbow dash disloyal, and apple jack a lier, Twilight had to do the same thing, reminding them of who they are and their respective elements. Even with the disharmonic clones of the mane six, they were rejected by the tree due to their disharmony. The base magic of this world is harmonic and disharmonic magic. Therefore, in order to reverse or break a spell, whether done by discord or by powerful ponies like starswirled or Celestia, you need a representation of either harmony or disharmony. It doesn’t matter who represents these elements, all they simply need is a representation of them at all.

Gacha band
Yes anything is possible, however there are rules to how this “anything” is achieved. For example, when Twilight recited Starswirled’s spell, she couldn’t simply say it in reverse or buy a potion, she had to remind them of their friendship and who they are, including their elements. Or another example of how harmonic magic is key, when discord turned the mane six into their opposites and made flutter shy mean, rainbow dash disloyal, and apple jack a lier, Twilight had to do the same thing, reminding them of who they are and their respective elements. Even with the disharmonic clones of the mane six, they were rejected by the tree due to their disharmony. The base magic of this world is harmonic and disharmonic magic. Therefore, in order to reverse or break a spell, whether done by discord or by powerful ponies like starswirled or Celestia, you need a representation of either harmony or disharmony. It doesn’t matter who represents these elements, all they simply need is a representation of them at all.

Gacha band <br>Maybe? It really depends on how magic works in this world, and as we can see in the show, magic seems to focus primarily on elements of harmony and disharmony. Rather than a summoning to do the job or just saying the spell in reverse, if magic was just as simple as saying the spell in reverse to undo it then the show would have resolved things far quicker than it did.

Gacha band
Maybe? It really depends on how magic works in this world, and as we can see in the show, magic seems to focus primarily on elements of harmony and disharmony. Rather than a summoning to do the job or just saying the spell in reverse, if magic was just as simple as saying the spell in reverse to undo it then the show would have resolved things far quicker than it did.


is nobody gonna talk about the fact that they use Tartarus from Greek Mythology?


Fun Fact: In the generation 5 the freeze is stopping, and the Mean 3 can live again! <b>>:3</b>

Fun Fact: In the generation 5 the freeze is stopping, and the Mean 3 can live again! *>:3*


I just want to see Discord and Fluttershy parenting their overpowered kids


I think cryslis will come back  because she has been able to multiple times


Maybe Luster will have to face them like Twilight and Nightmare Moon.


Wait how is Grogar in Tartarus if we don’t see him


What was princess Luna doing on the moon for a 1000 years?


Why couldn't they end the show when those three get reform? Or ACTUALLY see grogar


Cozyglow and the rest will be stuck in there forever cuz unlike discord princesses weren't in possession of elements of harmony. But if they do come back isn't twilight like immortal? Correct me if I'm wrong but there will be more mane 6 in the mlp future. I bet they would be stronger as well


If Grogar is dead, his bell would be gone. Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy would be stone forever because Grogars bell has all of their magic so if the Mean 3 came back they'd be super weak, and have to find more magic which will take more than 1,000 years because they'd be so weak it would be almost impossible. And Twilight might find them and Future 6 can just turn them into stone because Celestia and Luna could've taught them. True, Grogar could be brought back but Grogar is still Discord so he cant be punished because everyone already knows Grogar's Discord. If the Mean 3 unfreeze they have a plan because  they hear every word Twilight and her friends say becuase of Discords theory. But that might not be possible.<br>Theory by Baby Brunot

If Grogar is dead, his bell would be gone. Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy would be stone forever because Grogars bell has all of their magic so if the Mean 3 came back they'd be super weak, and have to find more magic which will take more than 1,000 years because they'd be so weak it would be almost impossible. And Twilight might find them and Future 6 can just turn them into stone because Celestia and Luna could've taught them. True, Grogar could be brought back but Grogar is still Discord so he cant be punished because everyone already knows Grogar's Discord. If the Mean 3 unfreeze they have a plan because  they hear every word Twilight and her friends say becuase of Discords theory. But that might not be possible.
Theory by Baby Brunot


Hold up punk there's room in my book for bill's come back we don't need a silly old goat!


I thing Grogar died! I'm not sure... It's just a theory! 😋


Anyone ever think about Celestia and Luna’s parents?


Can you do a video about why the princesses of friendship got so tall


Man, who else is excited for the Season 10 comics?


I think they will be unfrozened in the future like Discord


Maybe chrysalis tirek and cozy glow escape before they were turned into stone


I made a character who spears at around the time the main six had that last song she is born an alicorn just like her mother cause genetics and her mom is good old McFlurry heart


There is a myth that the brony nation is the last pony on this channel.


Brony Notion: posts twice in a month

Me: confused screaming

Brony Notion: *posts twice in a month*

Me: *confused screaming*


What happened to scorpan, tirek's brother? Or his dad?


I know Grogar is more powerful than Discord,Starlight,all Alicorn,Starswirl,Cosmos,Eris,Rabia and even Lord Tirek because according from the season 7 Grogar is more powerful than 1.000 army and according from MLP G1 Grogar is immortal and hard to die so i think Grogar is alive until now but maybe now Grogar is pension as a emperor of monsters and choose to work as a farmer just like Thanos after Avengers:Infinity War.


People always say season 9 is the last season of the whole show


What if grogar and discord are the same? How did discord know about the bell


... what if chrsyalis and tirek care for cosy glow... because chrsyalis  sort of cared for her hive cause they were her children... tirek ...idk.... but its just a theory.


What do you mean by "actually gone"? <br>Like, with death or just banishment for eternity? Because I remember that Granny Smith died, hence the reason Applejack is wearing her scarf, but I may be wrong though, since I still don't know what you meant by "gone". In what context? Etc

What do you mean by "actually gone"?
Like, with death or just banishment for eternity? Because I remember that Granny Smith died, hence the reason Applejack is wearing her scarf, but I may be wrong though, since I still don't know what you meant by "gone". In what context? Etc


Maybe true Grogar will appear in the final mlp movie


you are right maybe grogar is in the bell .


You should make a video about why is my little pony's ending 😥


Discord wanted queen chrysalis,cozy glow and tirek to come back😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎


Hey guys I know this is not Canon but what if grogar was split into 3 souls one in his bell another is his Crystal ball and his final soul was sealed into the phantom ruby from sonic the hedgehog!


If your dog eats you alive your really gone.


Maybe after 1 year they will be unfrozen


I think grogar is discord and he has forgotten that he is grogar and thinks another somebody is grogar not he
Suspicions are externally similar
Internally no


Well discord only came out because the cutie mark crucaders were fighting technically making chaos and chaos is what basically summons discord


Maybe gusty the great is the mother of Celestia and Luna


Discord is also immortal and the 3 of them aren't


But discord has power I think the elmeanst an the two sister didn't take dicoreds power because the elements and the two sister mebey where not on that level of magice or they were not strong enough so I think that the 3 village can't hear them because the power of friendship and grogers bell had more power and managed to remove there power so they can't get free

(I'm just thinking )


I believe what ever will happen the mane six will deal with it


Yeah, I think of the villains coming coming back. But what about T rex brother? And what about Nightmare Moon power the one that And the castle of Two Sisters. Applejack did  say "That when Nightmare Moon was banished Not every last bit of her power has gone with her And that take the form of pony of Shadows."


THERE IS NO SEASON TEN!!!!nine is coming out on April something 😏


Yes they'll be back but maybe in a movie but I hope just not in teen titans go form......


Here's a fact the series ended so LOL DOESN'T MATTER UNLESS IT PULLS A POWER RANGERS AND SAYS THEY ARE ALL IN THE SAME UNIVERSE


Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that discord could be a changling?


I have a dream that tirek cozy glow the queen chrysalis king sombra the pony of shadows and grogar will go to war and become mored powerful than friendship i just dont know how but i am worried 😦😦😦


grogar may be alive & free the villons & mite end as twilit,s student


shouldnt  u  be  doing a theaory  about the  pony  life ?


What about if you do an episode how go-kart might come back to the show cousins possible that they might just do a season 10 but with that pony Twilight student what about flurry heart how powerful is her magic now does Endless Possibilities that there might be a new series like My Little Pony and what about Sunset Shimmer she back in the regular dimension


why cant they just break the statue so they die??


Seriously 2nd video your making discords intentions look bad, sure he did let twilight face villains alone, but so did celestia(nightmare moon, sombra, discord, ect) all before she was even an alicorn
Discord only started after she was an alicorn aaaand he always had a back up plan.
Did celestia? No she didn't


what happened to the pets did they die or something else


<b>am I the only one that didn't watch season 9 cuz season 9 ain't on Netflix and I don't have anything else to watch mlp on?</b>

*am I the only one that didn't watch season 9 cuz season 9 ain't on Netflix and I don't have anything else to watch mlp on?*


امیر حسین دهقانی


Im not even a fan of this thing but idk why i 2hatch that x)


well sorry but Friendship is magic is....over....sadly this would never happen


wow what's with all the theories? I was just here for Tartarus.


The Bad 3 got reformed, shown in a newspaper at the end of the show

@Sawtooth Waves Damn., fooled by an edit. It was pretty convincing though ngl https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2019/9/7/2138197.png

so there's a picture of the statue in the newspaper, but only a bunch of jibberish on the page. it's the paper with the lyra/ bonbon wedding. is there a different paper?


i haven't seen this season because i hav to rely on netflix


Good job tell me what happened To Kroger. You saying season 10 comes?


Hey you know there be a crossover of transformers and mlp maybe


As much as I dislike how Grogar was handled--or NOT handled, really--I have to admit the writers did a good job of concluding things without entirely tying up the loose ends.  I felt it was clear the three would eventually break out as Discord did, and their behavior in Frenemies indicates they could ultimately be open to friendship.  Regardless of that, the ending of the show makes it clear that even when these and other threats surface, the Mane 6 and those who come after them can always vanquish them.  They're allowing us to speculate while still securing the happy ending.<br>I only wish we could see Chrysalis reformed so she could transform like the other changelings.  I bet her design would be beautiful.

As much as I dislike how Grogar was handled--or NOT handled, really--I have to admit the writers did a good job of concluding things without entirely tying up the loose ends.  I felt it was clear the three would eventually break out as Discord did, and their behavior in Frenemies indicates they could ultimately be open to friendship.  Regardless of that, the ending of the show makes it clear that even when these and other threats surface, the Mane 6 and those who come after them can always vanquish them.  They're allowing us to speculate while still securing the happy ending.
I only wish we could see Chrysalis reformed so she could transform like the other changelings.  I bet her design would be beautiful.


Brunchen get to 1st World War II Girls High School or whatever


He has been in a few weeks ago but it is the new one is. Or the:)


Here's an idea for a potential fanfic/headcannon (assuming the idw comics haven't done them already): Several individuals wanting revenge on Discord.

It would be something like this:
1. A father whose family was still in the part of Canterlot that got destroyed, and now he wants to kill Discord.
2. Someone with a large amount of knowledge related to magic and the transfer thereof, that doesn't care if Discord is killed but believes his power should be given to someone more responsible.
3. One of Discord's sentient creations became resentful and being carelessly thrown away and truly believes that he/she/it can't exist on their own as long as Discord is alive.

It could be like with the other villains in the show, where each of them tries by themselves before teaming up at a later point.


Keep in mind, Discord broke out of HIS stone prison because 1, Celestia and Luna's connection to the Elements was cut off after Twilight and the others became the new Bearers and 2, he was exposed to a single moment of pure disharmony.

Only one of these factors wouldn't have allowed his freedom. It took both.

So, unless something happens to Celestia and Luna down the line, the chances of THIS stone imprisonment failing is FAR less likely


As for Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glow breaking free, that is doubtful, Discord was sealed at full strength and he broke free with the aide of an act of discord between the three tribes  (in his case the Cutie-Mark Crusaders) right in front of his statue.  When they were sealed Tirek was drained dry, Cozy Glow was just a Pegasus filly, and Crysalis's power on its own is no way near strong enough to break out.


I think a solution would be the Mane Six + Doscord (and maybe Luster Dawn) coking up with a plan to reform/permanently banish the villains, then let them out from their stone prison


It’s true! You really ARE posting more often! This is awesome!


The theory of Grogar escaping because of Cozy Glow took off all the magic is not really logical. Cozy Glow took out the magic of equestria, but does the sky really count? I don’t thinks so. If it did, we would have already seen Grogar.


Since you said “No one is really gone forever”, you might have a lead. But if Discord only turned back the first time BECAUSE of chaos (which is what he’s made of kinda) what if Equestria might have some down falls at some times, and that could cause the Terrifying Trio to be brought back to existence...? Idk, but I’m trying to find some theories as well, and I say your doing a really great job! :)


Wait, can't the "stone encasement" spell be renewed? Or at least reinforced, possibly by reapplying the same spell, every 800 years or so? If so, then that would mean that these three likely would be encased forever. Because Celestia and Luna would've learned from Discord's escape to renew the spell every so often.


Remember that theory about Grogar helping Nightmare moon? Yeah, it was actually Celestia they released Nightmare Moon. She may not have been able to help her sister, but she knew the Elements could... if they were wielded by Ponies who were better friends than the two of them were. A bit of luck and Nightmare’s own plans backfiring, and Twilight and co were able to find that bond of friendship and heal Luna from her jealousy personified.


Celestia and Luna have improved over the years with their magic, and so has Discord (since he was still alive) so perhaps the spell has been perfected over the centuries.  That, and/or Discord's magic would otherwise help solidify the spell into a permanent one.


Celestia is the stars that released Nightmare Moon.


I know this hasn't been seen or mentioned yet, but what if Princess Celestia and Luna became one and cast the spell for the barrier that's protecting the Grogars bell to keep working. And oh yeah, like you said, Discord can do anything with just the click of his fingers. Maybe, he will this time in S10 take it too far and revive Grogar. Something to think about? I think yes.


how did the legend of grogar reach tirek as a young centaur maybe most of the free thinking creatures of equestria and other kingdoms around it had to band together to stop grogar then that could explain why most of the more monstrous creatures are in the outskirts of the kingdom losing the war then it could explain why most creatures seem scared or weary of the ponies one defeated the father of monsters by herself


Do you think it’s possible for Daybreaker to become real instead of just a nightmare?<br>I know it isn’t really canon, but I have an OC that represents a possibility. It’s the Spirit of Daybreaker, and it escaped Starlight’s nightmare by latching onto Celestia without being detected, leaving it free to roam around, seeking out Celestia to transform her. I’d like to hear other potential ways Daybreaker could become a reality, too.

Do you think it’s possible for Daybreaker to become real instead of just a nightmare?
I know it isn’t really canon, but I have an OC that represents a possibility. It’s the Spirit of Daybreaker, and it escaped Starlight’s nightmare by latching onto Celestia without being detected, leaving it free to roam around, seeking out Celestia to transform her. I’d like to hear other potential ways Daybreaker could become a reality, too.


Well I mean, just because the elements were stronger than Discord, doesn't mean that they're stronger overall. It could be a rock paper scissors kind of thing, they're strong against Discord specifically but no necessarily as powerful as Discord.


Discord only came back when harmed or feeling chaos soo my theory is that Grogar was watching them throw the ball asking Discord to take he’s place..Think about discord’s betrayed the mane six once soo maybe he’ll do it again..After everything was nice and happy the real Grogar could of came back attempting to break the spell of stone..The only problem is that throws away way to many thoughts and time but if those weren’t there this could be a lead..


You’ve made some good points and it is highly possible they may return and or Grogar will also appear and or free them, I doubt they may make another season as it is confirmed to be over, but that doesn’t mean a movie or special isn’t possible so keep that in mind.


We must not forgot that they'll bring season 10 into the light but as comic book form.

It's a possible that he might make an appearance in one of the books

As for what might happen to his bell Celestia said magic can't simply go away it needs to be stored in something or in someone. With his magic still in the bell I think that Twilight and her friends may have just locked away or the pilers of Equestria must have taken it to hide it away.


Gosh, I never really thought about the whole, turning to stone deal. The fact that they can hear, heck possibly even see everything, maybe even feel the pain of being frozen in place, is honestly horrifying. Even for villains like Discord, Cozy, Chrysalis, and Tirek, that's REALLY dark.

@Shadow Spector I mean, it was Discords suggestion, and he was stone for what, a thousand years? But he never actually talks about the pain he was in, not even to Fluttershy. You would think that if it was really so bad he would never forgive Celestia and Luna and/or never let them forget what they did to him. Either way it should be  considered that because Discord because can teleport, other than draining his magic or putting him in a magic drained containment area, turning him to stone would be about the only way to stop him.

Stay Puptastic: precisely. The supposed "heroes" of the show had these safer options and willingly chose not to do them and this fact disgusts me. You can see the smiles on their faces when they turn the villains to stone as if they're getting some sick satisfaction at robbing them of their lives. I'm at least glad to know that I'm not the only one horrified at this decision. I hope others can see it too.

@Shadow Spector And even then it should be temporary until other methods of containment are available

Stay Puptastic: that's honestly the only thing I could think of when this decision was made in the finale, and one of the worst parts is that this is being celebrated instead of anyone acknowledging how wrong it is. People aren't taking into consideration how horrible of a punishment this is and something like this should never happen to anyone unless the heroes are completely reduced to doing as their last option.

Stay Puptastic: because it just goes to show that people don't think at all about the hardships they put on other people. These villains were completely powerless and at the mercy of the "heroes" of the show and rather than taking the moral route of either attempting to reform them or putting them in a correctional place or a prison with a relatively short term for punishment, the "heroes" froze then in stone forever with no hope of releasing them. This is something that is completely worse than death because the villains don't have their consciousnesses suspended. Instead, they are forced to sit together forever with no hope of anyone hearing their desperate cries for help or, more realistically, their begs for the merciful release of death.

The fact that it takes people this long to realize the cruelty of this punishment makes me lose hope in a majority of the fandom.


This is probably never going to happen, but I would REALLY LOVE if they brought Nightmare Moon back. She's my favorite villain, and she definitely deserves more screen time than she got.

She definitely needs more screen time. I was hoping that the villains would turn Luna into Nightmare Moon and use her against the main 6.


It was confirmed by Jim Miller on Twitter that the trio aren’t conscious while turned to stone, that they’re in suspended animation i.e. a deep sleep. I imagine that the spell cast was something similar to the one Rockhoof requested Twilight to cast upon him in Season 8. Not to mention that in every other case of a character being turned to stone, they have no recollection of time passing or had any awareness of what was going on. Discord is most likely a different case given his omnipotent and enigmatic nature.

But yeah, it was still fucked up and that final punishment for the trio really left a sour taste in my mouth.


🤔 hum... that is an excellent possibility of that explanation. Yet another question needs to be known, of what would happen if The Father of MONSTERS heard what happened to his Bell of power an above all else... will He go in Rage or would He be expected that?!

Also you are going an excellent job, keep up the great work and the awesome job. 😎👍🏻🥇🏅🎖🏆⭐❤


Well I mean I guess this show wanted to end on freezing the villains to wait until Twilight has established order and stability to the point of not being able to be brought to their knees when the villains are set free in less than a thousand years, rather than be like "Oh, we killed some monsters and a child" and leave some room for other to speculate. Remember what you said last video, the people behind MLP left the doors wide open for us to speculate.


Whatever happened to the real Grogar can still be a mystery. But I think I might know another thing in common. Back when Discord was first mentioned. The CMC fighting let Discord free. Discords should have been freed by a fight between Applebloom and Diamond Tiara. I also have a theory that Cozy Glow was actually Illy the Imp from Magerblutooth's Diamond and Dazzle comic series. Think about it, the reason why season three of MLP had thirteen episodes may have lead to the rise of an MLP fan comic. I believe after Diamond and Dazzle are done, Illy targets the Mane Six. He decides to do that by becoming Cozy Glow. I think Illy used some transformation potion from Zecora and turned into a pony. But the potion and some side effects. Illy will act female and sprout wings. Another thing is that Illy was part of the Impish industries. I think their symbol turns into the chess piece Cozy Glow has. I think when Illy was turned into Cozy Glow, he lost all imp magic but he regained help from Lord Tirek. That is were Cozy Glow drains all the magic of Equestria. What did you think? What is your thought on my theory of Cozy Glow?


I enjoy imagining Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow spending their years of imprisonment deep in thought.  What else would you do?  I picture one or all of them going just a bit nutty during that time (we saw Chrysalis was starting to unhinge for a while) and start thinking to themselves about what the others might say.  They’d have whole conversations in their mind, eventually believing that they can communicate with their fellow stoned captors.  Each would concoct a detailed plan, discuss this with their imagined co-captors, and once they got out... there would be an awkward moment where they each realize that they never really had those conversations.

Heh. Just a little laugh.

There a fan fic that explains how Discord was able to know Twilight's name and that of her friends back during Season 2


My theory is that a regular being that is turned into stone gets preserved in a sort of cryogenic sleep so that whenever they awaken, it will be like only a few moments passed and they woke up from a quick nap.  The only reason Discord said he could hear what Celestia was saying while he was stone is because he's a god-like being who has the ability to still have a presence even in stone, he just can't physically interact with the world around him and is invisible.  (I also have a fun theory that he just teleported himself to the Star Trek Next Generation universe and became Q).  When the Trio are broken out of stone by some mysterious means (maybe someone fighting in front of their statue will trigger it like with the CMC and Discord), they will not have had enough time to learn from their actions, but once learning they had been gone for so long (or not that long), they now plot their revenge on all of Equestria once again, and this time, the REAL Grogar may be there to help them.

As for Grogar, I do like your theory that he bailed Nightmare Moon out of the moon, but here are some other interesting theories: what if CELESTIA made him do it?  Think about it: she missed her sister so much that she made a deal with him to somehow release her so that Luna could be exorcised by the Elements of Harmony and she could have her sister back, but she told him to let the spell take 1000 years, giving her enough time to find the ponies who would wield the EoH next.  Of course this means Grogar was alive and kicking then so maybe he wasn't powerful enough without his bell so Celestia wasn't worried about him causing any other trouble, but she didn't tell him about how NMM could be stopped, or else he might refuse to do the spell.  Or maybe Grogar was in Tartarus, imprisoned for life, and Celestia asked him to do it knowing it would kill him in the process and he wouldn't be a problem anymore, but he agreed to it anyway because if he could cast one last spell that would cause trouble for Equestria, it was worth dying for.  Releasing NMM would be his final deed as a villain, a rather fruitless and short-lived one.   However, he tricked Celestia into believing this is what would happen.  Grogar didn't die, he simply put the spell on the stars and simultaneously released his spirit out of his physical body and into the bell, waiting for the day someone would recapture it.  When the rainbow took away the Trio's powers in Ending of the End Part 2, it didn't even put them back into the bell which is why the bell appeared to just turn off and fall to the ground.  Instead, those powers, Grogar's essence, was released into thin air.  Grogar now exists in spiritual form, prowling Equestria, and using passive magic to cause trouble.  He may have even possessed the Trio when they got their powers, meaning that without them, they are no longer under his influence and may eventually regret their actions and can be reformed, unless he gets to them first.

This is one big theory I have.  I don't think the writers for the S10 comic will tread on something like this, though they may do something with Grogar, albeit in a probably rather anticlimactic way.  There are still the fanfics though.

Anyways, thanks for using my fanart!  It's started some great conversations with people who have commented on it and I hope it encourages others to develop theories and write stories!  :)


The implication that next mlp series some how takes place way into the future, and that mane 6 realize they are reincarnations of the previous ones and have to battle our super angry villain trio is crazy and I love it.


My theory is Gusty rehiddened the bell by transforming it into a different object by making it when the bell is destroyed it goes back to wherever she hidden it


What if being like that reform them?<br>I mean they would be thousands if not millions of year in that condition, hearing ponies and creatures... maybe listen to them could change their set of mind

What if being like that reform them?
I mean they would be thousands if not millions of year in that condition, hearing ponies and creatures... maybe listen to them could change their set of mind


I think that Grogar is in the mountain where his bell was because he might have used a spell just to make him invisible but he used all of the power in the bell just to do that. Because he might be still in the bubble. And if there is a season 10 the My Little Pony characters either face Cozy Glow, Tirek and Chrysalis after a 1000 years or they face Grogar


I have my own theory about nightmare moons escape! Grogar didn’t free Nightmare moon from the moon, but I don’t know how nightmare moon escaped from the moon. Princess celesta either KNEW Nightmare moon would escape soon (not recent but soon then) because of signs of the escape, or she knew the date of the escape because she knew about twilight. Celesta said it was fine when twilight was scared because of it in season 1 episode 1 because she knew she had to do that to make the events in season 1 episode 2 happen (make the 6th element appear, make nightmare moon normal)


Let's suppose that my theory of being two grogars and discord being the og one and that gusty is the spirit of harmony is true than imagine what happened to the second grogar and which of this ones paths are true, also my theory might be true for the reason you pointed about the elements magic vs discord magic


0:15 Tell that to the Storm King or Pear Butter and Bright Mac. And I'm pretty sure Sombra and the Pony of Shadows are gone for good too.

3:24 I'd argue that Sombra wasn't dead in the first place. In fact, Sombra never fully returned in Season 3, because he never fully returned to a solid form. Even you admit that Sombra was banished. And the comics suggest that he wasn't truly dead. And before you claim that the comics aren't canon, that claim is situational. The comics are secondary canon. It also means that the comic that brought Sombra back is decanonized. But that doesn't mean that all of the elements of that comic are debunked. After all, the show put focus on Sombra's horn for a reason.

4:24 I actually will ague that. You claim that the Elements of Harmony are more powerful than Discord. But I'd argue that they only act as his Achilles Heel. It's like Rock, Paper, Scissors. Is Rock more powerful than Scissors? Based on your reasoning, yes. But Scissors beats Paper, and Paper beats Rock. So that same logic would say that Scissors is more powerful than Paper, creating a paradox. The reason why the Elements of Harmony can defeat Discord could be argued not that the Elements are more powerful than Discord, but rather that the Elements are Discord's weakness (his Achilles Heel).

4:45 That's not entirely true. As I said earlier, there's the Storm King. He's gone for good, and he never stopped being a villain. And as for the Pony of Shadows, I'd argue that it's a separate entity than Stygion. You actually see Stygion being separated from the Pony of Shadows, and the Pony of Shadows still having a will of its own. That's what makes Luna/Nightmare Moon different from Stygian/Pony of Shadows. Luna's transformation came from within herself, whereas Stygian's transformation was from an external source.

5:10 That wouldn't be a good idea... if it weren't for the fact that they no longer have Grogar's power. And it's been demonstrated that Discord is significantly more powerful (as long as he has his powers) than the three of them combined. So even if Discord isn't as strong as the Elements of Harmony, those three will be in stone for much longer than Discord was. Especially if you take into consideration that part of why Discord was freed was from an external source (the Cutie Mark Crusaders causing chaos with their bickering helped to empower Discord. If it weren't for them, Discord would've probably been in stone for much longer. And for those three baddies now in stone, if one is freed, would all them be freed, or are they stoned individually? If it's the latter, then only two of the three of them would be able to free themselves. Tirek could potentially drain magic while still in stone, meaning that he can get strong. Chrysalis could also feed on love. But what can Cozy Glow do to free herself? Nothing. Perhaps what should be done is to have the statue of the three of them put in Tartarus so that they can't gain power (or very little at best). That would make them in a prison in a prison. By the time they're able to free themselves, time probably would've advanced to the point where creatures of that world have traveled the stars and colonized other worlds.

5:48 In the comics is still canon. And unlike previous comics, which are only secondary canon, the Season 10 comic will be primary canon. So saying "in the comics at best" is like saying the comics don't matter. I assume Season 10 won't be required reading. But it will be just as canon as the show.

0:15 Tell that to the Storm King or Pear Butter and Bright Mac. And I'm pretty sure Sombra and the Pony of Shadows are gone for good too.

3:24 I'd argue that Sombra wasn't dead in the first place. In fact, Sombra never fully returned in Season 3, because he never fully returned to a solid form. Even you admit that Sombra was banished. And the comics suggest that he wasn't truly dead. And before you claim that the comics aren't canon, that claim is situational. The comics are secondary canon. It also means that the comic that brought Sombra back is decanonized. But that doesn't mean that all of the elements of that comic are debunked. After all, the show put focus on Sombra's horn for a reason.

4:24 I actually will ague that. You claim that the Elements of Harmony are more powerful than Discord. But I'd argue that they only act as his Achilles Heel. It's like Rock, Paper, Scissors. Is Rock more powerful than Scissors? Based on your reasoning, yes. But Scissors beats Paper, and Paper beats Rock. So that same logic would say that Scissors is more powerful than Paper, creating a paradox. The reason why the Elements of Harmony can defeat Discord could be argued not that the Elements are more powerful than Discord, but rather that the Elements are Discord's weakness (his Achilles Heel).

4:45 That's not entirely true. As I said earlier, there's the Storm King. He's gone for good, and he never stopped being a villain. And as for the Pony of Shadows, I'd argue that it's a separate entity than Stygion. You actually see Stygion being separated from the Pony of Shadows, and the Pony of Shadows still having a will of its own. That's what makes Luna/Nightmare Moon different from Stygian/Pony of Shadows. Luna's transformation came from within herself, whereas Stygian's transformation was from an external source.

5:10 That wouldn't be a good idea... if it weren't for the fact that they no longer have Grogar's power. And it's been demonstrated that Discord is significantly more powerful (as long as he has his powers) than the three of them combined. So even if Discord isn't as strong as the Elements of Harmony, those three will be in stone for much longer than Discord was. Especially if you take into consideration that part of why Discord was freed was from an external source (the Cutie Mark Crusaders causing chaos with their bickering helped to empower Discord. If it weren't for them, Discord would've probably been in stone for much longer. And for those three baddies now in stone, if one is freed, would all them be freed, or are they stoned individually? If it's the latter, then only two of the three of them would be able to free themselves. Tirek could potentially drain magic while still in stone, meaning that he can get strong. Chrysalis could also feed on love. But what can Cozy Glow do to free herself? Nothing. Perhaps what should be done is to have the statue of the three of them put in Tartarus so that they can't gain power (or very little at best). That would make them in a prison in a prison. By the time they're able to free themselves, time probably would've advanced to the point where creatures of that world have traveled the stars and colonized other worlds.

5:48 In the comics is still canon. And unlike previous comics, which are only secondary canon, the Season 10 comic will be primary canon. So saying "in the comics _at best"_ is like saying the comics don't matter. I assume Season 10 won't be required reading. But it will be just as canon as the show.


What if the reason the reason the 3 were turned into stone because what happened to Discord. Maybe they think letting the three see how much the world change around them and meeting the future six may change them...

I like to think that only Chrysalis will stay a constant villian, Terik and Cozy Glow showed last minute regret you can see in their status. Idk. I like reoccuring villians but I am down for a GOOD redemption arc.

@Sawtooth Waves
Eh.. I can see why but I want at least one constant villian so maybe Cozy Glow... I really want Terik to be good tbh.

Do you think if Chrysilis chnages she'll be im that other form?

i don't think chrysalis is a lost cause, just a tough egg to crack. i want a chrysalis redemption arc more than anything


Well... It true like noone is ever really gone.<br>That's why I think at the 2nd movie somebody would trigger something to make grogar come back.

Well... It true like noone is ever really gone.
That's why I think at the 2nd movie somebody would trigger something to make grogar come back.


Okay some supposed to last foreverthe fact that this discord broke Free was because he is literally a god of chaos so long as there is chaos he could never truly stopped yes he can be slowed down but he can never truly stopped two ways to get rid of discord 1 pull a Thanos and kill everyone or 2 reform him to where he stops creating chaos


When you just read the title and it gives you flashbacks of Star wars.


If discord can hear what others say when hes in stone maybe the others can we dont know  but if they are in stone for a 1000 years how old is Equestria and how do the ponies live The sisters have been living for over a 1000 years, the main six too...  remember in the episodes when twilight was a human there was a pony statue maybe thats a soul from the pony world who got into the human universe we dont know...


Here is another idea, who was that watching Spike and the Mane 6 during their return visit to the Castle of the Two Sisters, was it as Rainbow Dash alluded to a second Pony of Shadows- a piece of Nightmare Moon that got left behind after she was banished.


Honestly without Grogar's magic which was trapped inside his bell and dispersed by the Final Rainbow I feel like he would be more dangerous in the human world than the Pony one.


I’m so glad you’re back on normal schedule that you used to be on it kinda feels weird


Another episode! Oh my goodnesss.. the Brony Notions really back!


grogar wasn’t banished to the stars. he didn’t bail nightmare moon out it was celestia.


What they did too cozy broke my heart. She DID NOT deserve to be turned to stone. Like my heart was shattered. She was just a foal...  And a child being turned to stone unable too see anything or feel anything only able to hear is Torture.. Discord should have been the one turned too stone and cozy could have at least be banished too the human world... What harm could  Cause there? She would just be treated like a small child and the human world has places too help people like her. Discord probably was the one pulling cozy glows string.

@Sawtooth Waves we learned discord can turn into anything he wants. How did she get letters to someone Tartarus? I could see discord disguising himself as a pony. Cozy glow probably didn't have friends too start with and probably was alone and discord probably took the opportunity too disguise himself. Telling her about how friendship is actually power and used the mane six as a example. Then telling her about Lord Tirek setting her up with him as a pinpal. And that would've been the start of it. I feel like what they did was child abuse. I didn't even see a bathroom in that Tiny cage she was in at first and the only guard in tartarus is cerberus. So where did she use the bathroom? Then discord released them and gave them the location of the bell. If he didn't they would not have been able to do what they did.

I don't think anyone was pulling her strings but her. she's manipulative and apathetic , but i agree that she didn't deserve this


Chrysalis and Tirek did murder. But Cozy Glow, even though she was under the influence is still cute and cuddly even though she denies it.

Marc Timothy Moses no she doesn’t in fact she said that about herself in frenemies


What if Cozy glow, Queen Chrysalis, and Tirek are sealed in a new kind of stone with NEW MAGIC? Or maybe some of Gutsy the Great's magic is  fused IN with the stone. Well, that's my theory anyway.

@Primrose Rain Also if you arnt subed to ScribblerProductions pls do she made a post about her friends having financial trouble and in need of help. Pls at least check it out and spread the word. (Its the most recent one)

@Primrose Rain welcome i did that several times too till someone corrected me.

@Nyx Voidess  oh. Thank you. I'll fix that.


Arimaspi is "ducking fead" as his big one-eyed skull is hanging out near Griffonstone! So, YES, you can DIE in Equestria!


You couldn’t have just let us live in blissful ignorance couldn’t you hahaa


Discord was not created when the tree of harmony came because when nightmare moon was banished and was returned she had none glowing dark blue hair she had light blue hair, but when the 2 princesses turned discord into stone, Luna had  glowing dark blue hair. How did the tree of harmony came to be if they had a place to stand?, like when celestia pulled the elements out of the ground they were on a stone thingy and how did the tree of harmony come to be then??  I will end it here lol

When tia and luna banished discord in twily's vision they used what the princesses looked like in the future so twily's could identify them. Using how twily saw them now and not the past because its a vision those use what you have seen and put it into a collage to show the past present or future if possible.


King sombra is probably gone forever like grogar because if groger was a legend in the past then he probably was there even when terik didn't exist cuz what if he created teriks brother? What if grogar created chaos, and how did teriks brother disappear?


I think that the student 6 will take care of them, maybe they can get a age spell so they wont die. Same  with everyone else.


Ok this might sound crazy but I think the season 9 finale confirmed the comics being canon

Discord mentions tireks father “king vorac” which is a character in the comics in the friendship is magic arc.


personally i want to go to that statue, free chrysalis, and take her as a bug waifu. she cant stop me from trying. if she does attack and escape, i have a barret .50 OR a Kraber......


Nice  theory. I honestly never would've thought of this lol xD


What if Discord just actually is Grogar? like, there was a million or so unaccounted for years (obviously exaggerating) Between Grogar and even the start of the royal sister's reign. Discord came about around then. There's nothing saying that Grogar didn't just slowly change over the course of we don't even know how long, to try and reconquer the world, and that's where Discord came from.

The show was right Discord was Grogar all along

What if Discord just actually *is* Grogar? like, there was a million or so unaccounted for years (obviously exaggerating) Between Grogar and even the start of the royal sister's reign. Discord came about around then. There's nothing saying that Grogar didn't just slowly change over the course of we don't even know how long, to try and reconquer the world, and that's where Discord came from.

The show was right *Discord was Grogar all along*


If only we could get a season 10 on tv. Unless Generation 5 continues this.


Doesn't that spell wear off a thousand years later, that means that the mean 3, will return and twilight,s friends will be dead and unless Luster Dawn gets the elements everyone is screwed.


“Outro music coming soon” my prayers have been answered


Well what if discord predicted that they would be stocked forever like he looked into the future, he is the thing of chaos after all so maybe due to his powers.


They may come back in the next gen. of MLP show. They will be coming back for revenge.


I'm thinking the villains and grogar might make a showing or just grogar in a future movie that Hasbro might be making


Keep Calm & Contemplate Your Life Choices


I have to count of theories to your theory what if it was at the Mane 6 but the young six who took down girl gone one from each species if it's the other dimensions theory it might be the main 7 who takes Kroger down


Hey there Brony Notion. I’m working on something really special for the brony community and need someone who’s really into the lore of Equestria. Would you be curios to see what I’ve got?


Hi Brony Notion, Icy~Ivy here!
From the Marvel references I've see in your videos I can deduce you maybe a Marvel fan and if you are I've got a theory for you

What if the Elements of Harmony and the Infinity Stones are like each other but still different? There's six of both the Elements of Harmony and Infinity Stones;

Elements of Harmony
1) Generosity
2)Laughter
3) Kindness
4)Loyalty
5)Honesty
6)Magic

Infinity Stones (I did them in the order Thanos got them)
1)Power
2)Space
3)Reality
4)Soul
5)Time
6)Mind

And that's got me thinking 🤔💭
What if they were the same but different? They are all powerful and when combined, they are a force to be reckoned with, even tho they are different universes, they are alike.

@Sawtooth Waves I saw and that's what started my theory, what if the Elements of Harmony were in Marvel and the Infinity Stones were in MLP and we didn't notice? Like the Alicorn Amulet was suggested to be the opposite of the Element of Magic, they could be there just disguised as something else, just like Discord was disguised as Grogar?

maybe it's all part of the same multiverse! XD i like that idea. I made an elements of harmony gauntlet in my video "how the tree of harmony really died", had a lot of fun with that haha


Well, I'm working on a small season 10 of mlp fim, it involves a phantom pirate for the future , who when back in time to his other crewmember, he pick the statue of a pegasus filly, and a horned centaur, and a black buggy pony queen. The phantom pirate's name is Manestrom.


Maybe in the middle of the 10 year skip they got out and have to deal it again.


Brony notation : or just kicking the can down the road for someone else to deal with<br>Me : the young six maybe ? i'm just thinking that because they did save equestria once from cozy glow and helped twilight and her friends,the pillars save equestria again from tirek, chrysalis, and cozy glow the second time i don't know it could be a possibility for season 10 i'm just guessing

Brony notation : or just kicking the can down the road for someone else to deal with
Me : the young six maybe ? i'm just thinking that because they did save equestria once from cozy glow and helped twilight and her friends,the pillars save equestria again from tirek, chrysalis, and cozy glow the second time i don't know it could be a possibility for season 10 i'm just guessing


Chrisalise and Cozy will reform and abandon Tirek


i have a theory, but it might not make sense cause idk. Since not all ponies live forever, and i hate say this, but the mane 5 are going to die (not including Twilight ). therefore, discord may go on a rampage of some sorts when fluttershy dies. after all, she was like his significant other.  although discord could juts bring fluttershy back to life (i think) twilight would stop him. somehow he would hear grogars voice telling him about some spell, this would lead discord to free grogar. again, this is probably not a viable theory, just a thought.


Brony Notion: uploads consistently

Me, a 2012 viewer:
WAIT, THAT'S ILLEGAL

Brony Notion: *_uploads consistently_*

Me, a 2012 viewer:
*_WAIT, THAT'S ILLEGAL_*


I mean. It wasnt really necromancy. Sombra was banished into the eather. Thats not death


Okay so what if a villain wanted to reform but they were turned to stone. How would could they tell the Princesses that they want to change

Precisely! The only one who was even so much as speaking her mind to not want reformation was Chrysalis, but even so, in Frenemies, the three wanted to be good but their minds were too clouded by an agenda to give it a chance. If the supposed "heroes" actually stopped to hear them out and help them, maybe the villains wouldn't have gotten to get murdered.


I thought discord's power allowed him to be remain concious.

@Sawtooth Waves  considering how much power he really has there could be a possibility that he had a plan to keep up with current events in case he lost to the sisters. He does act stupid but he can plan things out. Remember the episode where he got cadence and twilight to take care of him. Even though it ended in him actually getting sick?


Havent seen your videos in 5 or so years.. welcome back


I'm writing a fanfic with Grogar as the main villain. There's also a fanfic where he is on the moon.

@Olle Selin I might bring back Chrysalis and the others. I don't know if I want to include the Storm King. The one where he's on the moon has him. I don't want to be too much like him and copy that.

U should put the Storm King in there, too


Brony,do you think you will run out of pony ideas?Then you need to fined something else.


Can someone tell me where to watch the 9th season? There’s only 8 seasons on Netflix.


Well I know show is over and a new beginning will rise up it would be cool if the mane 6 will get back together for one last defeat and defeat Kroger plus teamed up God versus the feelings the mane 6 vs Abbie pony that ever help them in the past with grow guard somehow got chapines Stars far away actually not the moon on a different planet beauty billions and billions away and his magic in his Bell


Yet, of course, MLP will not explain ÙmÚ


What I'm wondering is where did the mane 6 put the statue after they were stoned they dont show the statue agian anytime soon?


Discord and the 2 princesses froze the time of the mean 3, even tuough the 2 princesses and discord all new that some day they would be freed.


4:20-4:22, discord was a special case because he was brought out because of the disagreements between the cutie mark crusaders

@Sawtooth Waves if your right, then that means the spell would end by another 100,000 years

I think it the spell was already weak after 1000 years. Also, a similar trigger may release the three in the future 🤔


a video posted an hour ago by the brony notion? no way...


I think the mean three should get out from stone


Earliest I have ever been is now 32 seconds! Great video as usual.


What happened to tireks brother scorpan?


I think i know  what realy hapend to grogar. The real grogar  is  stil a constilation . But discord is just pretending  tobe grogar . So  grogar is stil a constilatoin again i said that


One of those three statues is a mortal pony. Who will probably suffocate, if not starve to death.

@Impulse electrobrine125 I kinda assumed they were trapped in stone. Because when discord escaped the stone cracked

tommy flores she’s solid stone I don’t think she will be effected that much


Um here's proof mlp movie killed off a villain by shattering him


Patreon link in video description is not properly linkified...


I think discord is a special case, he is a spirit of chaos, unlike the mortal characters like the legion of doom. Plus the way they cast the spell on them is different than when they stoned discord, the spell depend on the elements connection to the princesses which was weakened after lunas banishment, and it still took discord, the most powerful being in the univerese, a lot of time and help from CMC to escape. Its possible that the trio are asleep and doesn't aware of what is happening around them unlike discord because the reasons stated above.

Its also possible grogar escaped, but couldn't regain power and died of old age by this point. Also, the shadow embodiment from the season 7 finale is trapped in limbo too. King sombra might actually have been sent to some realm in season 3, and in season 9 he was actually killed(maybe that is the reason "grogar" didn't brought him back again). The storm king was turned to stone to, and then shattered.


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Pls read my comments in the last vid and do 1 on flowing manes


Why.........

Don't... don't say anything more!!

Please, just... just stop. Don't ever make that reference again...


No timeline video? 😞 Itz ok, its ur video


The reason that no one is ever really gone is because this is a kids show.


sunset shimmer is though. she appears in Twilights montage in the final song of the show. i count it as canon since they're tied together so nicely (pillars banishing sirens) and they don't contradict each other


Hay tbc what if that do a now generation like next gen  and thay met Groger


I only cliked cuz I regodnised the title of this vid


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You tube didn't let me know about your new video


Uhhhh season 9<br>Was the final season lol

No there are different  comics that are gonna be season 10<br>Sorry for bad spelling and grammar

No there are different  comics that are gonna be season 10
Sorry for bad spelling and grammar

pugtube 9999 and redtube 9999 the comics aren’t cannon to the show


bro wtf ahhhhhhhhh they said  fuking "TOGETHER FOREVER"😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱


Excuse me what about discord turn into a monster form tatasbus and shadow pony 3 power combination discord turn more <br> Impossilyimagine of evil  read comic book about discord brain

Excuse me what about discord turn into a monster form tatasbus and shadow pony 3 power combination discord turn more
 Impossilyimagine of evil  read comic book about discord brain


Saya tak tahu apa yang terjadi di dalam itu


Yes gust like you sead they can be some one eals


Ok i can not give dollers to suport your patern what about ₹


WOW JUST WOW this is horrible! The worst villains frozen in stone with all the time in the world to hear everything. Wow. Yeah really BAD idea


I heard that season 10 in in some sort of book...


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also thanks for putting the song "pamgea" at the end of the video


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No views 4 likes...<br>Do you need help youtube

No views 4 likes...
Do you need help youtube


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