I feel like Cozy Glow, Tirek and Chrysalis can reform. We already saw them say that helping others wasn't so bad in Frenemies, Chrysalis even admitting it had to do with the magic of friendship. And that was on their own. Imagine what could happen if the Elements of Harmony helped them learn friendship. The only question is how long would it take? Cause you're right, their hatred and anger could snowball, making it much harder, but then again, Discord was trapped for 1000 years and he reformed.

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@Sawtooth Waves I really love your videos about my Little Pony

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@Sawtooth Waves and  I really  like your video  and the my Little Pony  secret you are telling

@Sawtooth Waves hi 👋  I am  21 years old

@Sawtooth Waves hi 👋  I am  21 years old

@Moxxie Shramek I feel like before when she was hanging with the cmc she was actually good but once she went to school and saw the "power" the mane 6 got from others than dicide to go for power

@Moxxie Shramek I feel like before when she was hanging with the cmc she was actually good but once she went to school and saw the "power" the mane 6 got from others than dicide to go for power

cozy glow's cutie mark represents her ability to manipulate others, its her special talent. I dont think they'll be able to reform her. not sure about the other two though

cozy glow's cutie mark represents her ability to manipulate others, its her special talent. I dont think they'll be able to reform her. not sure about the other two though

@Sawtooth Waves I know this is two years late but I feel like since in the comics it shows the stone breaking over time g5 gonna have to deal with the mean 3 again expect that purple alicorn is gonna be the leader because she the most powerful out of the four and this time they won't betray the leader

@Lazlow 87 What if her backstory revealed that she wasn't a child after all? (Think like Baby Doll from Batman the Animated Series...)

@Lazlow 87 What if her backstory revealed that she wasn't a child after all? (Think like Baby Doll from Batman the Animated Series...)

@Sarosp Well..... That might be why the world of G5 was the way it was.... Think about it, pretty sure all three of them have tendencies towards messing with and suppressing magic... Christalis made that throne that negated ponies magic in the hive, Tiriek Eats magic, and Cosy Glow well we all know what her first evil plan was....

@Sawtooth Waves btw they was almost broken out like discord in season 10 aka the true finale of the entire G4

@Sawtooth Waves btw they was almost broken out like discord in season 10 aka the true finale of the entire G4

What if Cozy Glow was turned to stone to keep her from finding the dark secret of Equestria? Something like an underground drug ring with forced child labor.🤔💭

What if Cozy Glow was turned to stone to keep her from finding the dark secret of Equestria? Something like an underground drug ring with forced child labor.🤔💭

you are right we saw in mlp the new generation formed a new team  which will be ready like the mane six

you are right we saw in mlp the new generation formed a new team  which will be ready like the mane six

@Sawtooth Waves sombra is refomred in the comics

@Sawtooth Waves sombra is refomred in the comics

@Kristaq Shkembi  it's bad enough Thorax betrayed his own mother now he got rid of changeling culture.

@Kristaq Shkembi  it's bad enough Thorax betrayed his own mother now he got rid of changeling culture.

It's most likely for cozy glow to reform than the other 2 villians. If someone helped cozy reform, then she could probably help the others 2 reform. Also with cozys strategic techniques the army of equestria could become better. But that's my opinion.

@Firelight320 id say it was different for discord cuz he was just messing around (bruh fanfic episode lol) but the mean 3 are angry and vengeful

@Firelight320 id say it was different for discord cuz he was just messing around (bruh fanfic episode lol) but the mean 3 are angry and vengeful

I don’t know if chrysalis will ever reform or Tirek cozy glow might considering she is just a child in this world but if she was like this just starting out I can’t see it for her either

I don’t know if chrysalis will ever reform or Tirek cozy glow might considering she is just a child in this world but if she was like this just starting out I can’t see it for her either

I see discord as a wildcard,some what willing to try anything

I see discord as a wildcard,some what willing to try anything

@Roselle's Fantasies You know, I find the elements being smashed stopping them from being used to be really silly. Hell, in the second ever episode, Nightmare Moon did the same thing, shattering the elements in front of the Mane 6, but the shards lifted up and spun around the Mane 6 and became the necklaces and tiara.

And while you could say that the Tree of Harmony is now broken and that's why they aren't back, the elements powered the tree, not the other way around. That's why Twilight and her friends needed to put the Elements back.

@Ariaelyne shie is not a sociopath. She is a bitxh if you wanna call her like that.

@Ariaelyne shie is not a sociopath. She is a bitxh if you wanna call her like that.

@Benjamin Bierley bitxh stop using sociopath as an insult

@Benjamin Bierley bitxh stop using sociopath as an insult

i think its possible but not- chrysalis will try her hardest for love not to get to her... tirek can always wip up a pony and steal theyre magic if he gets annoyed and WANTS to be evil and cozy- weeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll there isnt much she can do so she might be the first one reformed butttt she is a trickster and a cheat she can act like shes reformed for a good while until she finds the other villans and makes a plan  for equestria go cooo cooo again!!

Fresh2000 ZCORD was the skull a pony or a human

Fresh2000 ZCORD was the skull a pony or a human

Bemi Atto we don’t know if Scorpan is still alive

Bemi Atto we don’t know if Scorpan is still alive

ryan macdonald it’s cuz she made a deal with Tirek

ryan macdonald it’s cuz she made a deal with Tirek

@Fresh2000 ZCORD very good way to look at it

@Fresh2000 ZCORD very good way to look at it

@The Stealthy Bomber I took frenemies as yeah everypony or uh creature has the potential to change and be better, but it doesn't mean that they will ultimately choose to over there own evil, its true other characters have done bad and have been reformed but they also eventually showed guilt for there actions, while its a possiblity for them to reform its a question of if the heroes are really obligated or in the wrong for not giving them that chance after all the horrible things the 3 have done /attempted to have done to them for genuinely evil reasons.

@Fresh2000 ZCORD yeah the mean 3 are probably some of the most evil villains I've seen. I think lot of of people including myself just find it a little hard to think of characters such as CozyGlow or Tirek as Pure evil because there are times where we get to see them in a more comedic or "better" light. The episode where the mean three have to climb a mountain together definitely have something to do with that for me considering they legit almost turned good in that one. <br>Also that explains it,  I never actually watched the season finale I just know how it ended.

@Fresh2000 ZCORD yeah the mean 3 are probably some of the most evil villains I've seen. I think lot of of people including myself just find it a little hard to think of characters such as CozyGlow or Tirek as Pure evil because there are times where we get to see them in a more comedic or "better" light. The episode where the mean three have to climb a mountain together definitely have something to do with that for me considering they legit almost turned good in that one.
Also that explains it,  I never actually watched the season finale I just know how it ended.

@The Stealthy Bomber u dont gotta say sorry i just feel a lot of fandom downplays how evil the mean 3 actually were, while characters like discord get completely demoralized for having their heart in the right place but yeh she was holding the skull when talking to neighsay when he was tied up either part 1 or 2 of the s8 finale.

@Fresh2000 ZCORD true but I just meant that that was not her goal.  Even though she maybe? could care less about what happens to others, her goal itself was not to kill but to rule. I don't think Ive seen the episode where she is holding the skull so that's my bad. sorry if this sounded rude.

@The Stealthy Bomber she carried around a skull with her when talking to neighsay at the very least, she didn't care wat would happen to the student six when they were being dragged into that other dimension it could have killed them.

@The Stealthy Bomber she carried around a skull with her when talking to neighsay at the very least, she didn't care wat would happen to the student six when they were being dragged into that other dimension it could have killed them.

@Pula Paw perhaps but Cozy Glow's goal wasn't to kill but to become Headmistress. It was not until the finale where she truly tried to kill or physically harm someone. The rest of the time she was imprisoning or tricking them.  Just as bad though

Lazbro Brony in real life a child kill his mother was put in a metal hospital for 15 years got out and almost killed his grandmother that took him in, mind you he was very rich and did not have a horrible upbringing. He ended up hanging himself in jail as the book him. <br>Than the other case where a kid had a chem set, use it to kill his step mom was never caught bc they view him as a child. He slowly tried to kill his best friend at school that when he got caught. They but him in a metal hospital where he was able to put together two chem that end up killing one of they inmates bc someone was dumb enough to have him help with lunch. Than they let him out where he got a job as a adult and killed 2 of his coworkers. This time he what to jail for life. They ask him why he killed he said he enjoy seeing how chem kill people and watching them die. Mind you he was around 8-10year old very smart man but had no heart for people at all, no hard childhood are up bring.  They give this kid a lot of chance at the cost of innocent plo dying and they could never reform the child cold heart. Sadly even what the best doctors and love some people lack a heart to never change, some get great joy with hunting and killing others. This is real life and I think the show is trying to show that.

Lazbro Brony in real life a child kill his mother was put in a metal hospital for 15 years got out and almost killed his grandmother that took him in, mind you he was very rich and did not have a horrible upbringing. He ended up hanging himself in jail as the book him.
Than the other case where a kid had a chem set, use it to kill his step mom was never caught bc they view him as a child. He slowly tried to kill his best friend at school that when he got caught. They but him in a metal hospital where he was able to put together two chem that end up killing one of they inmates bc someone was dumb enough to have him help with lunch. Than they let him out where he got a job as a adult and killed 2 of his coworkers. This time he what to jail for life. They ask him why he killed he said he enjoy seeing how chem kill people and watching them die. Mind you he was around 8-10year old very smart man but had no heart for people at all, no hard childhood are up bring.  They give this kid a lot of chance at the cost of innocent plo dying and they could never reform the child cold heart. Sadly even what the best doctors and love some people lack a heart to never change, some get great joy with hunting and killing others. This is real life and I think the show is trying to show that.

@Fresh2000 ZCORD Less excuses yes but at the same time her whole plans were inspired by the knowledge Tirek gave her, so although she is a manipulative and evil child, the plan wasn't entirely hers. I assume based on her and the cutie marked Crusaders appearance that she is maybe 6-8 years old, old enough to know right from wrong but still very impressionable. Sorry if it sounds like I'm against your opinion, I agree with some of your statements, but I personally don't agree with executing a little kid.  To me she is still at that state where she could learn and gain inspiration from those around her.  Her mind is not fully developed so with  good influences throughout her life, I like to think that she could redeem herself. So my apologies for the long comment and everything.

@The Stealthy Bomber the child has the intelligence of an full grown has tried to kill innocent creatures multiple times, unlike tirek and crystalsis she actually has <b>less</b> excuses because like u said, she understands wat friendship is but still uses it to try to become a dictator. And despite being at a school of friendship learning friendship she didn't try to change her ways or learn better then.

@The Stealthy Bomber the child has the intelligence of an full grown has tried to kill innocent creatures multiple times, unlike tirek and crystalsis she actually has *less* excuses because like u said, she understands wat friendship is but still uses it to try to become a dictator. And despite being at a school of friendship learning friendship she didn't try to change her ways or learn better then.

Sarosp Let’s remember the fact that one of them is literally a little child. An evil little manipulative child but still a child. That an led considering her age I believe she would be the most likely to reform of the three along with the fact that she seems to be the most knowledgeable on the concept of friendship

Btw mlp has not even ended in the UK we have season 23

Btw mlp has not even ended in the UK we have season 23

@ryan macdonald cozy is definitely smart enough to make her own decisions

@ryan macdonald cozy is definitely smart enough to make her own decisions

@Sawtooth Waves just because someone has the potential to be better doesn't mean they will ultimately choose too.

@Sawtooth Waves just because someone has the potential to be better doesn't mean they will ultimately choose too.

Discord knows it thats why he came with the idea of stoning them. He was turned to stone too and then he was reformed when everybody was ready for him. Yes by everybody I mean litteraly only Celestia

Discord knows it thats why he came with the idea of stoning them. He was turned to stone too and then he was reformed when everybody was ready for him. Yes by everybody I mean litteraly only Celestia

Hi! Sawtooth Waves i will make a story of My Little Pony in the next generation and thanks to your data i can add it to my story and i want you to tell my story on facebook/massanger (Dominic Barleta). And i'm happy to chat with you there.

Hi! Sawtooth Waves i will make a story of My Little Pony in the next generation and thanks to your data i can add it to my story and i want you to tell my story on facebook/massanger (Dominic Barleta). And i'm happy to chat with you there.

Firelight320 <br>, i don’t want chrysalis to reform

Firelight320
, i don’t want chrysalis to reform

@Kíra Leszkovits i know right she could be so bootiful but alas she is a evil

@Kíra Leszkovits i know right she could be so bootiful but alas she is a evil

@Sarosp well this is a kid friendly show soooooooo that's out of the question.

@Sarosp well this is a kid friendly show soooooooo that's out of the question.

Leave them for luster dawn’s friends 😂😂😂 history repeats itself and helps people learn and grow lolll

Leave them for luster dawn’s friends 😂😂😂 history repeats itself and helps people learn and grow lolll

I think all villains reform when they think there is no choice and they could live a better life

I think all villains reform when they think there is no choice and they could live a better life

I think Tirek has a chance to reform, but you NEED Scorpan's help to even get a chance to get through to him

I think Tirek has a chance to reform, but you NEED Scorpan's help to even get a chance to get through to him

i agree that sounds very possible to be honest i always thought crissalis was a really cool character and if she was reformed equestriea would be more powerful than ever(the main reason crissalis is one of the cooler characters is because i am a reformed changling)

Out of those three, it's hard for me to believe that Cozy Glow could reform. Out of all villains, she has actually <b>started</b> in the School of Friendship and been there for quite some time before executing her evil plan. She was dealing with the friendship lessons on a daily basis and had more than enough chances to reconsider her decisions. However, instead, she has proven to be a true Demon Child who lacks the feeling of empathy entirely and would do the evil deeds just for the sake of it.

Out of those three, it's hard for me to believe that Cozy Glow could reform. Out of all villains, she has actually *started* in the School of Friendship and been there for quite some time before executing her evil plan. She was dealing with the friendship lessons on a daily basis and had more than enough chances to reconsider her decisions. However, instead, she has proven to be a true Demon Child who lacks the feeling of empathy entirely and would do the evil deeds just for the sake of it.

@KTBF Productions, I think that Grogar will free them from their stone prison, but Chrysalis will go her own way send find love in her daughter, which was supposed to be the first of her army, but instead, she will be reformed and just live with her daughter.

@Sarosp, I think that Grogar will free them from their stone prison, but Chrysalis will go her own way send find love in her daughter, which was supposed to be the first of her army, but instead, she will be reformed and just live with her daughter. As for Tirek and Cozy, I think the Tirek will turn to stone again, but this time fall down Cliff and shatter, like the Storm King. Cozy, I think she's going to go back to Tartarus for most of her life and then free herself and get caught by the main six kids, and now need a new prison for her, and Twilight will choose to send her to sunsets world.

MLP Ruby Rose what about Granny Smith and her horseshoe gals

MLP Ruby Rose what about Granny Smith and her horseshoe gals

Maybe the real Grogar will come back in the season 10 comics and might be related to one of the stained glass windows in the final episode

Maybe the real Grogar will come back in the season 10 comics and might be related to one of the stained glass windows in the final episode

You know as Twilight said "There will always be darkness..". Can't you admit that they're bad. And thats it! It's not a show for kids, it really has phylosofical meaning.

You know as Twilight said "There will always be darkness..". Can't you admit that they're bad. And thats it! It's not a show for kids, it really has phylosofical meaning.

Crysalis almost did...

Starlight offered her a chance, but she declined. But it looked as if she wanted to...

Crysalis almost did...

Starlight offered her a chance, but she declined. But it looked as if she wanted to...

Deranged people are prone to be highly intelligent.

Deranged people are prone to be highly intelligent.

I still say that Cozy Glow should NOT have been evil or a villain period becasue she's a child. And they should have gave her a backstory and a reformation. I could care less about the other villains. Cozy Glow did not belong with them. And Grogar should have been real not Discord in disguise.

Did you forget they lost most there magic and that Equestria wouldn't be ready after the first time?

Did you forget they lost most there magic and that Equestria wouldn't be ready after the first time?

@Benjamin Bierley Her being a sociopath actually makes being irredeemable even more dangerous to people with similar disorders (ASPD and the like) since they very much do need professional help.

@Benjamin Bierley Her being a sociopath actually makes being irredeemable even more dangerous to people with similar disorders (ASPD and the like) since they very much do need professional help.

@Firelight320 Of course they can reform. The question is: Will they?

@Firelight320 Of course they can reform. The question is: Will they?

The lack of reason for Cozy Glows derangement does leave it open as to whether there is something that can see her reformed. That said of the three she seems the least likely to ever be reformed despite being the only actual pony of the group simply because from what we see and know of her she is a FULL blown sociopath, and this is simply who and what she is...people like her do exist and do act and pull the same tricks she did in order to get ahead, I've run into people similar to her all through my life and having a kids show warn about the possibility of encountering that type of person is another mark in the shows favor alongside all the other issues and types of people I've been surprised to find them addressing.

@Alexander Liu oh no, I get that, I just like approaching these kids shows with the same analytical view I do with shows and movies ment for adults. Trying to apply adult or nihilistic practicality to adolescent shows can be very amusing for me

@Alexander Liu oh no, I get that, I just like approaching these kids shows with the same analytical view I do with shows and movies ment for adults. Trying to apply adult or nihilistic practicality to adolescent shows can be very amusing for me

Firelight320 they’re beyond and not worth changing

Firelight320 they’re beyond and not worth changing

@LavenderAndFire Chrysalis looked like she wanted to take that forgiveness. Writers, at that point, made Chrysalis irrediemable. Cozy? She looked very fake from the moment she arrived. Her "Oh, golly"... Brrr, I'm still creeped out by that. I mean, look at their hairstyles.
https://www.deviantart.com/dan232323/art/Cozy-Glow-meets-Darla-Dimple-768577063
That, and how Cozy would fly into rage, and be distorted sometimes... Very same.

BUT remember, when Starlight attempted convincing Chrysalis to reform, she rejected and threatened to come back with revenge. And might I remind you that Starlight is the main pony she wants revenge on.

BUT remember, when Starlight attempted convincing Chrysalis to reform, she rejected and threatened to come back with revenge. And might I remind you that Starlight is the main pony she wants revenge on.

@ryan macdonald First of all, she's not deranged enough. She seems to be able to plan, and see outcomes. She's just devoid of empathy. So, not really deranged. Secondly, it's DISCORD, spirit of CHAOS. He came out of his stone prison when there was fighting nearby.Does Tirek has ability to be empovered when something is HAPPENING nearby? He can NOT ABSORB magic, he's petrified. Chrysalis? Cozy Glow? They can't rewrite reality, as we seen Discord do.
https://youtu.be/6g3zW83a518
Eh? Can Tirek simply bend laws of their reality? Can Chrysalis overpower Alicorns under HER OWN power? No.

@SilverDiamond  Then it's the fault of the writers for screwing up in how they wrote out Cozy Glow's character. Also, we don't know why she's the way she is and what would work on her to reform her.

I do agree with you though that Cozy Glow's deranged but what do you suggest be done to her? Have her killed even though she's a filly?

 Even the turning the stone solution will only work for so long as we've seen with Discord so something needs to be done and getting her mental therapy while going into her mind to destroy whatever mental ailment is causing Cozy Glow to be nuts is the best solution that doesn't involve killing a filly.

@Ruby Rosepetal I'm talking about "new" changelings.
https://www.deviantart.com/tsitra360/art/Crayons-674300730
I mean, seriously. They look awful. All that color and glitter dust on wings. Really?

@Ruby Rosepetal I'm talking about "new" changelings.
https://www.deviantart.com/tsitra360/art/Crayons-674300730
I mean, seriously. They look awful. All that color and glitter dust on wings. Really?

@ryan macdonald Adults are more likely to be reasoned with. That filly? She would have never been redeemed. She didn't care for ANYTHING. Tirek was the smartest one, as he was seen to not even try to go up the mountain. Chrysalis only has pride in the way. As someone once said somewhere, Chyrsalis only needs to admit defeat once, to ask for help and be redeemed. "Laughter, Royalty, Generosity? Blah, blah, blah." Did you miss how SHAMELESSLY she framed the Student Six?
https://youtu.be/Yc_nQJIf6rk
Cozy is either DERANGED, or BLIND. She'd never be reformed.

@SilverDiamond  I didn't like what the writers did with Cozy Glow either. She was the most likely of the Mean 3 to reform but nope, they instead decided to lock her as a bad guy like you said and turn her, a mere child into stone instead of getting her intense therapy to fix her mental issues for any child who'd behave like Cozy Glow did clearly has something wrong with them.

I didn't mind Tirek and Chrysalis being turned into stone though as they're adults capable of making their own decisions but they opted to be evil anyway and put their pride ahead of reason and paid for it.

@Sarosp you missed the point of the entire video. They have never (with the possible exception of the Storm King or Sombra, but that's up for interpretation) really killed a character.

@Sarosp you missed the point of the entire video. They have never (with the possible exception of the Storm King or Sombra, but that's up for interpretation) really killed a character.

@Sarosp  Hopefully there staue got moved to Tartus just in case the spell where off

@Sarosp  Hopefully there staue got moved to Tartus just in case the spell where off

@Firelight320 yes, but it's not worth the risk is what I'm saying

@Firelight320 yes, but it's not worth the risk is what I'm saying

If anything it won’t be the current mane six but the the gang of next gen six who will face grogar, or the three in stone. Since shows love to rhyme and history loves repeating itself, why not let more inexperienced children fight centuries old villains and an old boomer almost forgotten by time? That’s what the royal sisters did, and it pretty much worked.

@Ruby Rosepetal No. Don't turn the last "original" into puke inducing crayonling. HATED what they have done with those.

@Ruby Rosepetal No. Don't turn the last "original" into puke inducing crayonling. HATED what they have done with those.

Cozy Glow and Chrysalis? Lol, funny joke. We have seen how they ignored any and all attempts at befriending them? Chrysalis COULD have been redeemed, but show writers decided to make her locked as a bad guy. She'll never be reformed. Cozy... "Laughter, loyalty, generosity? Blah blah blah, I can make friends without those." She also treats friendship as path to power only. She doesn't get what it is. And I want to wish her a good luck making friends if she won't be able to make her friends smile, or.even simply trust her.

While i do understand your opinion, some people just can never change, no matter how many opportunities they have to turn. While the idea of chrissy, cozy and tirek seeing the light is an intriguing idea, the most likely thing is that they won't change at all. At least, chrysalis won't

Chrissy is too filled with resentment and hatred towards starlight glimmer and what she did to her kingdom. Something that can be really hard to forgive someone for. Cracks were shown in her in "Frenemies," but these thoughts soon disappeared, due to her constant and continuous hatred towards starlight glimmer. In order for her to turn good, she would ultimately have to accept defeat, which is something that she has never thought of doing.

But thats just my silly opinion

@Kíra Leszkovits Yeah, that would be cool!

@Kíra Leszkovits Yeah, that would be cool!

It would have been cool if they actually used Villainous Power of Friendship in the finale against the Mane 6 like "Grogar" wanted.

It would have been cool if they actually used Villainous Power of Friendship in the finale against the Mane 6 like "Grogar" wanted.

@Grace came back,probably will do it again; was set in stone, possible he can comeback with a spell; absorbed icky.

@Grace came back,probably will do it again; was set in stone, possible he can comeback with a spell; absorbed icky.

@Ruby Rosepetal .... Sombra? The storm king? The mean 6?

@Ruby Rosepetal .... Sombra? The storm king? The mean 6?

@Sarosp That's not how Twilight and her friends work. Plus if the embodiement of chaos that happened to change the entire world with his magic is able to be reformed after being trapped in stone once for 1000 years, breaking out, then getting trapped again, then I think these three have the ability to have that happen too.

Their too dangerous to keep alive in my opinion. Seriously, just kill them for the sake of literally everyone. They'll break out eventually, and equestria may not be as well equipped to fight them then as they are now. Bare in mind that they barely won this time

@Sawtooth Waves Well who knows? With Celestia and Luna gone, Twilight is now in charge, so at any minute, she could decide to give them a chance, and if Discord is weaker than the Elements, he couldn't stop her. Only time will tell though, right?

i definitely think it's possible too, alas they won't have the chance for a while

i definitely think it's possible too, alas they won't have the chance for a while


Hot take: Because Discord is more powerful than the Mean Three that is how he was able to break out of the stone over time

@donovyn vaughn that is actually what happened! Because they created discord/disharmony, which empowered discord, causing him to break free. Like how in the one episode when he started to be normal, and as a result he started to fade away because of the LACK of discord!!

Or he got a power jolt with the cmc conflict

Or he got a power jolt with the cmc conflict

Yes but you must remember, he only started to physically break free when the crusaders argued, aka, caused DISCORD, between eachother, fueling his abilities

There’s also the fact that the elements changed owners and therefore the spell was weaker

@Claire Bear Theory: Discord is the blue siren from Equestria Girls (This is a joke btw)

Even if that was true,the fact he needed time and a push on the stone implies that anyone would eventually get out with whatever magic they have stored and some outwards push

I think discord broke free thanks to the cuty mark crisaters

I think discord broke free thanks to the cuty mark crisaters

I think it's because, Celestia and Luna used the EOH to turn discord into stone, then the EOH were passed to Twilight and the mane 5.Since the EOH have their new owners and not Celestia and Luna then I think that's how Discord is able to break free.(i think)

@beerus le gros chatchat de xenoverse True, but even then during the finale. She had all that limited power from touching the bell. Until discord sucks all that back in as pinkie is normal again. See one specific cosmic entity that can last all the power & cosmetic ability. Goes to do fear known as "The One True One' as told through some small information in the comics! even somewhere in the COSMOS ark.

Either discord broke out because of the connection weakened between the two sisters and the tree of harmony, which is less likely as discord broke out nearly straight after the crusaders were fighting, or that the crusaders were fighting which is chaos sooo, that resulted in discord breaking out from stone.

@XxMary_PlaysxX Probably Discord from mlp, as I searched on Google, and discord was first introduced in season 2 which was released in September 17 2011 while Discord the app was made in May 2015

I thought he broke out because Luna's and Celestia's connection to the Elements of Harmony was broken.

@Galen Moran omg your did you just say that!? You know this is only random comment no need to get heated over it jeez cool off or go live in an igloo and isolate yourself more than u already have and take your last brain cell and put it in a box and put it in the ocean but I think you already know that u can't... Because you have no brain cells or comments decenency🤣

Y’all are stupid he exaped when the connection of the elements and the sisters split idiots ugh

Well i dont think they will break through probably cause the only one who can break through is discord and i wonder which name was earlier discord app or discord mlp

still if someone where to free them by accident what would happen?

for a second i thought you were talking about the app Discord

@Flame Gauge it would all make sense if they are not FROZEN INTO A SINGLE POSITION.So they can not move nor use their abilities.

Not to nitpick, but their actual name is the "Legion of Doom" I think

Hmmm....i do not think chaos magic is more powerful. that category with that term "more powerful" goes to "COSMIC" Magic! I guaranteed thats the one your looking for, than discord with him having that sort of less common chaotic ability. Just sayin

He was able to break because ponies were fighting and it was breaking the stone

But apple bloom,sweittie bell,scottalo did help discord so they are nore powerful soooooooooooooo

@Tepig! I believe the mean 3 would never break out again, unless the ones that turned them into stone died

@Arts and Crafts plus reviews And Discord was powerful enough to break out in a weakened state, I mean how can the mean 3 escape without any ounce of magic left, Tirek is Mr.Skinny again, Chrysalis is still hotheaded and didn't absorb any love for awhile, and Cozy Glow is well.... Cozy Glow

No, i think remember celestia said that in season 1 that Discord was able to break out of the stone because celestia and luna wasn't close for 1000 years which broke the harmony

To be honest, the Elements weakened because Celestia was no longer the bearer, and like the Tree of Harmony Magic needs a power source, what if your Power Source are 3 God's who are Immortal and they will be alive for all eternity. Discord only broke off because Celestia was no longer powering the Elements

What is Chrysalis was trying to have Twilight to defeat her and lost a little bit of her Gilt Gilt she sent Twilight send to Cadence so they can get out I think

@Claire Bear I doubt that was the only reason. if he's been there for over a thousand years it's hard to believe no one ever had an argument in front of his statue all that time. the royal sisters themselves probably had arguments in front of his statue a few times. and I doubt he didn't manage to soak up some chaos from their disastrous fallout. He had probably been working to escape the entire time. that argument was probably just the final little push he needed. if it didn't happen I think he would've managed it on his own eventually.

in fact we know he had a plan to escape set up already. if he couldn't manage to break out on his own, his seeds would've likely helped him out of it. ether by weakining the tree, the sisters, just by reaching him, or a combination of those.

That said, these three might have a harder time getting out due to being weaker but there are some reasons I think they might actually have and easier time. Tirek can absorb magic, which he might be able to leech from the spell itself, or even from passing ponies, if Chrysalis decided to keep a piece or two of her throne on her that could also potentially serve to slowly weaken the spell overtime, and while Cozyglow did need artifacts and a ritual to do this she's also shown she's able to cancel magic, she likely found numerous lower scale ways to do it in her research to find out how to erase it from equestria entirely, so she can't be discounted as a potential escape factor ether. There are ways they can get out on their own, and there's no accounting for external help.

@Atlas he was faking it, the creator said that the spell by starlight didn't hurt him at all Soo yeah

He forgot this one big time like the rest.

He forgot this one big time like the rest.

Discord is one of the most powerful character

Discord is one of the most powerful character

But not starlight spell meaning starlight is more powerful

But not starlight spell meaning starlight is more powerful

Pat Daubert you are a bit right but discord is the “LORD OF CHAOS” mean that it the episode that his was in the Cutie mark crusader argue and fight and the is chaos because of chaos and chaos only in how discord lives his live forever he only needs chaos to live proof in one episode discord acted normal and he fainted away slow his need to be chaotic to live

@Claire Bear you're correct. he gains power from chaos and disharmony

I thought he escaped when the fillies starred arguing, he seems to gain power from chaos and arguments are pretty chaotic... IDK If you think otherwise correct me on this.

Yeah , a unlimited magic is surely better than normal magic xD He even casted the spell , so it should be even more effective !


It's obvious that Discord had at least met Grogar at least once, or knows a fair bit about him. Since Discord turned into Grogar, and knows what he looks like enough for others to somewhat recognize him, and that accurate transformation might hint that Discord has some association with the old goat.

Maybe Grogar is his father<br>He created monster

Maybe Grogar is his father
He created monster

or he could of just saw him in a snap or a story book


Imagine a dark timeline where Twilight's friends pass, and she is so lonely that she releases the trio to try and reform them, herself.

Twilight Sparkle is become a legendary princess thanks to Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, who gave him all their know-how. if I have inderstand

That’s a really good idea. And then they don’t get reformed because like in the video it said that they could hear everything Celestia Luna and Twilight said making them raging if they ever got out.

Or she could make the student6, the next bearers of the elements do that! Making them have an experience just like the Mane6 did in "Keep Calm and flutter on"

Don’t need to have an ending that’s like TLOU2

I think she might be able to do that. Although she would be terribly sad her friends died, for sure.


Here's a theory. Since Discord has chaos magic and can bend the rules of reality because of it, his magic made the statue permanent. In reality, nothing lasts forever (like the spell which turned Disord into stone) but Discord can bend reality and the laws of physics.

If so that would make me reallly disappointed…like my shoulders just shrugged…

Here’s the thing,bending the laws of physics could definitely be a double edged sword,sure the spell now doesn’t wear off but breaking the rules of magic might weaken the spell some other way to allow them to escape

@ArcheIsHere Still. I understand Chrysalis and Tirek. But Not Cozy glow. I mean Maybe she had some kind of mental illness that cause her to do this. They should of at least try to find her parents if they are still even alive. Maybe Her parents died in some sort of magic accident which caused her to absolutely hate all kind of magic. Honestly If the show didn’t end the mlp writers would of gotten backlash for stoning Cozy glow.

@Ramy Maybe, this could either go 2 ways. They permanently get stoned or reformed.

Reasons for the 1st:
*Celestia, Luna, and Discord agreed to stone the 3 without a second thought, meaning they are less trusting of reforming them
*They actually hurt and almost destroyed Equestria because of their powers and the Windigos, Sure Discord ruled 2 times but not really harming others (I think this is why Celestia had Discord reformed), the worst he can do is pull a mean prank or do a villain musical number with a crack voice
*Celestia said "There's no suitable punishment for you 3 have done" in this case, Celestia is pissed. For one thing, she could just throw them in Tartarus again, but she doesn't meaning their crimes are far more dispicable

@ArcheIsHere You got a point there. But Honestly I think twilight should reform them. Just like Celestia trusted the mane 6 to reform discord. Especially Cozy glow. Come on now she’s a child. She’s literally the CMC’s age.

@Ramy And that's where Twilight, Cadance, and Flurry Heart fill the gaps. They would still be around, they would just free the 3, and reseal them. And again there's no chance for those 3 to escape since they don't have much power and that's not even adding the fact that Discord is there

@ArcheIsHere technically there isn’t proof that Alicorns are immortal. Discord sure but Alicorns not proved canon yet. They could just have an extremely longer lifespan then normal ponies. So the princesses could eventually pass away and only discord’s magic would keep the villains from escaping. This would be like season 2 premier all over again . Imagine their statue in front of a group of friends. They hug each other and laugh together to show their friendship. That by itself could be powerful enough to break the seal.

@Ramy Luna, Celestia, and Discord. their immortals and they are forever connected to the statue.

@ArcheIsHere I don’t understand what you meant at the last part ? What 3 immortal Gods?

Random Kennedy your smart unlike everyone else!

Well your theory is plausible, The Elements spell on the statue became weak because of time and The 2 Royal Pony Sisters were no longer connected; Seal broke because it needed 1 little push which is the CMC. Now when Discord was released he can make havoc like in 3 Seconds, while the Mean 3 are very much in their weakened state Tirek has no magic left, Cozy Glow is just a normal pony now, and Chrysalis has no more love magic. And take note that the Seal was broken when the Elements were detached from the Sisters, but now though you have 3 Gods who are IMMORTAL, and they would constantly supply magic for the seal.

That’s different when the elements of harmony is more powerful than discord so it won’t work and plus even if that was the case someone will unfreeze them from stone


I'd say MLP missed a HUGE opertunity of having Cozy Glow, Crysalis and Tirek as Twighlights top students learning about friendship and maybe questioning if they made the right desition

Cozy glow is a maybe, but tirek and chrysalis are very volatile, considering tirek's and chrysalis' abilities. Theres also the possibility of one of them pretending to have learned friendship, only to find out theyve been hatching plan to take over equestria or something again.

Maybe Cozy Glow would learn and bow down to be since she was one before but I don't think Queen Crysalis nor Tirek would like to do the idea. Well, it's just my opinion.


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It took discord a Thousand years to break free. I'm sure we've got plenty of time before they break free too

Hopefully the future generations will be able to handle it.

@꧁・Black_Bluebells・꧂ it was because the elements weren't connected to Celestia or Luna, Celestia explains that to the mane 6 when they get to her castle. I think the CMC could've been involved too, cus of how they acted around stone Discord, but if Celestia and Luna were still connected to the elements of harmony it would probably take more than just 3 kids arguing to free him since they (with the elements of harmony) were the ones to defeat Discord.

I mean... 3 is better than one I think they’ve got a better chance to get out soon

@Everybody Die yeah the cms were just a touch from the animators and writers

@Everybody Die he broke out coz celestia and Luna were no longer connected to the elements


I can point out multiple things wrong with this
1: The Elements of Harmony were never Directly used on any of the Stoned Villains
2: Discord canonically should be able to overpower the three of them in their stronger forms so their base forms would be like eating cake so the stone trick very well can be permanent as long as Discord doesn’t die and he’s immortal so that’s out of the picture
3: If the sisters used the elements on Tirek Crysalis and Cozy Glow they wouldn’t break out for several times longer than Discord should they break out at all cause Discord is stronger so the same scenario in any of their three cases they’d be nothing short of screwed

@Cronk Fair enough,the fact is we’re shooting in the dark,I missed the notification you had responded so I’m happy to end the argument here. We both are simply guessing about  how we think chaos magic works,since nothing is confirmed I guess we’re both right. Have a nice day/night

@Bird Mcturd he can make it so it won't stop? Turning someone or something to stone is not "chaos magic" and it was also done by the tree of harmony and it didn't even last forever because it was broken which means it is only temporary which probably means the tree of harmony wants everyone to find a way to "reform" everything

"why was the stone magic broken/temporary?"
i'm not sure but the stone magic isn't supposed to last forever but adding something to it that isn't supposed to be there/wasn't supposed to happen like: making it last forever or making it so that it can never be broken Makes it chaotic because chaos magic is all about making something happen that isn't suppose to happen

If anything making chaos last forever makes it MORE chaotic because lets be real, if your house was a mess and is a complete chaos you'd put it back to "normal" but it won't because it will last forever (and nothing really lasts forever unless its like a rock or something idk)
A house spinning in the air for eternity IS chaotic

"the elements were without their holders so they couldn't do anything" so then why did the tree of harmony save the young 6 but couldn't do anything when sombra was attacking?
(also just to let you know, i do not wish for this argument to get heated because i know a lot of argument gets heated ^^)

BUT this is just my opinion and my own theory

@Cronk That’s the thing,you’re confusing versatility and power. Discord can alter and control reality but that doesn’t mean his spells last forever. Think about it,why would Chaos magic stay in one place doing 1 thing forever? It doesn’t sound chaotic to me. The way I see it,the elements of harmony are stronger but can only do 1 thing (turn someone to stone),Discord has power in versatility but not direct power (the main 6 could break his manipulation of their personalities without the elements after all). Sombra meanwhile broke the tree of harmony but he wasn’t fighting against the magic,the elements were without their holders so they couldn’t do anything to stop him.

@Bird Mcturd except his magic IS stronger, he doesn't have much limits and doesn't need to do much to permanently turn the mean 3 into stone.
Even tirek respected him when he was sent by celestia to stop him.
He even says it himself to the mean 3 "it would give you power over reality" (power over reality which is literally chaos and disharmony)
And like i said his limits are just magic draining magic and harmony
Even king sombra destroyed the tree of harmony and the elements and he's literally more powerful than king sombra so what's stopping him?
(also sorry for the long comments)

@Cronk if they’re opposites,you’d expect them to roughly equal in power and we know the elements capture enchantments don’t last forever. Sure,Discord can do more with his magic but just because it’s more versatile doesn’t mean it’s directly stronger

@Bird Mcturd the reason why he was de-powered was because his magic was stolen.
Look at it this way: creatures with magic are like bottles and the liquid inside are the magic when tirek or grogar's bell stole his magic the liquid inside the bottle was transferred onto a new bottle.
No matter how strong the creatures are they're nothing, they're just vessels holding the magic inside them. Its not the creatures that makes the creatures themselves powerful but the magic they contain and discord contains the power to break reality.
And the reason why he couldn't stop the elements of harmony/tree of harmony is because he's literally the opposite of the tree/elements.
Its literally "chaos vs order" except order has heavy plot armour, the only "limit" discord has is the elements/tree of harmony and magic draining creature/things
Also another thing to add is that celestia sent discord to fight tirek (the one who drained his magic and is one of discord's "limit)
My point is that making them permanently stone is easy for his magic

@Cronk I wouldn’t be so sure,Discord has got de-powered in the past so why couldn’t it happen again? Besides,that’s operating under the assumption his magic can do anything and that’s not a strong assumption,he couldn’t stop the elements of harmony so we know his magic has limits.

@Bird Mcturd are you literally saying that about a creature that can literally do ANYTHING. He literally has no boundaries and has power over reality.<br>I mean yeah sure, all spells wear off but we're talking about discord. His magic isn't normal magic, he is literally thanos 😭

@Bird Mcturd are you literally saying that about a creature that can literally do ANYTHING. He literally has no boundaries and has power over reality.
I mean yeah sure, all spells wear off but we're talking about discord. His magic isn't normal magic, he is literally thanos 😭

Not necessarily,all spells wear off. It might take longer but that’s only more dangerous. Nothing says Discord is powerful enough to make spells last forever. What if a villain de-power’s him? What if he enters another dimension? What if someone can break them out? We just don’t know


I don’t watch MLP, but hearing the ending of this theory actually creeped me a little.


discord manipulated a child and gave them the location of a dangerous artifact that they would have never known about if it wasn't for him. only to play the victim when thing's didn't go as planned. he probably secretly helped cozy glow be penpals with tirek, we know discord is the lord of chaos. he can shapeshift and manipulate others with ease among other abilities, he probably put it in her head that friendship was power. that is what it would seem like to a child. every battle they fought they won because of their friendship, which can easily be seen that way through a child's eyes.  they could have been banished through the portal, there are freaking age spells they could have used. so many different ways they could have punished them. but discord suggested turning them into stone to keep cozy glow quiet and out of the way. discord was able to stay sane inside the statue because of his magic. cozy glow has none, she will be trapped in cold darkness unable to move or do anything, only hearing faint voices out of her stony prison soon to be forgotten only seen as a statue in a park. she will go slowly go insane and after awhile the voice inside her head will end up going quiet and she will most likely die.  a show has never made me so mad in my life, outright child abuse.  not to mention the tiny cage they put her in the first time which clearly had no bathroom.

Child abuse.... Are you sure you're talking about cozy glow right now? Yes cozy glow is a child but like......
She manipulated twilight, manipulated an entire school and tried draining all of the magic in equestria(even the tree of harmony had to help on its own) literally helped chrysalis  manipulate every pony, tried taking down 4 princesses just to take full control of equestria almost destroying everything in the process...

Also we don't even have any proof that this is discord's doing, the tree of harmony is gone which means there is no stopping discord if he wanted to, yes the mane 6 defeated king sombra without the tree and they could possibly do the same thing with discord but without the tree of harmony discord is a bit more powerful now.
Keep in mind they couldn't even defeat king sombra without the tree of harmony or discord's speech, discord could've overpowered them before he made them realized that they didn't need the tree of harmony

also i feel like you're the type of person to get mad at writers for a character making bad choices because they didn't do the "happy rainbow sunflower field" move..

True but we don’t know that she’ll die,get body isn’t aging,if her mind is still awake she won’t be able to die or maybe even can’t sleep. The spell will be brown eventually and she’ll be an insane mess,this could even be true of the others. It’s possible Discord was already insane or could manifest in other dimensions so he wouldn’t go insane,we don’t know it’s because of his magic but I do think your point stands.

Interesting theory though I do feel the mean three took the punishment for Discord’s machinations, that bit always bothered me. If not for him they would either still be in Tartarus or a shadow of their former glory.


Oh. Dear. God.

Now that just makes sense.
I hope we get to see these villains escape from their stone prison.

I really hope that happens. Sunny has been seeing Twilight as like a perfect being, but encountering the trio can make her realize Twilight's mistake. And seeing the trio's reaction to the passage of time could be quite an experience for them. This kinda story would make more since as to why the writers felt like they rushed their ending but was actually set up for something like this.

They might actually Escape in mine actually an encounter generation 5 if this is true well let's just hope sunny and her friends will be able like them all somehow or try to find the elements of harmony.


I imagine a young pony will always come to the statue and just talk with them. Then encased in stone, their hearts learnt to care for the pony until its death


I wonder if Cozy Glow will be a grown mare when the spell wears off or if she'll still be a filly because of the stone, since it's practically pressuring her whole body.

I think it would be like in the 2017 film when the princesses got released from stone themselves. They all where reacting while being released from stone as if they where still fighting during the Storm Kong's invasion only to realize they weren't.


I would definitely love to see a take on how Chrysalis and Tirek must have felt really lonely over the years since Chrysalis lost her kingdom and Tirek’s brother Scorpan got him sent to tartarus


“It should come out roughly in season 10!”

Grogar was never seen again

😔😔😔 Season 10, I wish we got that. Unfortunately not. The show ended for good. I'm honestly sad :(

Nice rhyme you possibly made on accident


Wait a minute. I just realized something! Could Cozy Glow age while being trapped in stone?

i dont think so- cause the stone will eventually break if cozy ages unless the princesses added a very hard and strong spell


Theory: when Luna came back from the moon her hair started to to the flowy thing and when celestia used the elements her hair started flowing so IN THE FUTURE Twilight DID fight grogar and that’s why her hair does the wavy thing in the future!!

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Cadences hair flows when her and shining armour defeat the changelings

@LukiKruki when was it in the official series? That’d be cool to see 0w0

"when celestia used the elements her hair started flowing" No. It didn't. You remember fan animation instead of the official series.

@Andrea Martinez is it Cadence's turn? cuz something did happen in crystal empire

And thats why Candace's hair cant do that


“Kinda like how Star Swirl banished the sirens to another realm”

What if Grogar was Hitler 😱

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why should he turn good in the human world? jk


Season 9 is the last season ever it’s so sad my whole child hood will be gone ya I know NoTHInG iS EVeR GOnE

@Lilac Worner-West  but it won’t be our gen it’ll be different ppls gen 😞

i cant belive thar my little pony is sooooooo old

It’ll still never be the same, even in G5

@Laeba Majid  but the new one is more like everyday things with tablets uwu

potato UwU no saving the world-!? That was literally the whole plot of mlp-

I know right I was sobbing when the last episode came out

Lilac Worner-West some people don’t like the animation in gen 5, like me. i prefer the gen 4 and wished they continued the same style as gen 4

That was just the end of friendship is magic they created another one called pony life everything is the same  just the drawing style and no saving the world


4:32  Well, not really. Both times Discord wasn't putting up any sort of defense. If he had really tried to defend himself, he probably wouldn't have been encased in stone, or at least it wouldn't have been so quick and easy. The Elements might need to be used a couple of times, first to weaken Discord, then to turn him to stone, but I'll leave speculation up to you. The point is, Discord may be just as strong as the Elements, if not stronger.


I would enjoy seeing the real Grogar in the MLP universe.🤩


i think Cozy Glow, Tirek and Chrysalis can reform. bc we saw them say that helping others wasn't so bad in Frenemies, Chrysalis even admitting it had to do with the magic of friendship.but she was the first one to disagree


Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us! The concept of Grogar being banished to another realm or to Limbo is interesting and reminds me of his G1 counterpart's fate. One idea your theory inspired is the possibility that Grogar could have cast himself into the far future to escape punishment similar to what Sombra did with the Crystal Empire, which reminds me a bit of Samurai Jack now that I think about it. This would allow him to resurface in a world that was unprepared for his return because they thought he was gone. I wonder if Sombra's curse banished the Crystal Empire to Limbo seeing how time seems to have frozen for the inhabitants. I also wonder if Sombra cast the curse so that the empire would return when he did. Magic in the MLP world has so many applications…<br>I find it odd that Discord suggested turning the villain trio into stone. Even if he was awake as a statue only because he was so powerful, you'd think he—and anyone else—would be against something that cruel. Then again, Discord brought up that he could hear as a statue without anyone batting an eye. Maybe the creative team was trying to avoid drawing too much attention to such a dark fact, but this has the unfortunate effect of making it look like no one cares. ^_^;

Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us! The concept of Grogar being banished to another realm or to Limbo is interesting and reminds me of his G1 counterpart's fate. One idea your theory inspired is the possibility that Grogar could have cast himself into the far future to escape punishment similar to what Sombra did with the Crystal Empire, which reminds me a bit of Samurai Jack now that I think about it. This would allow him to resurface in a world that was unprepared for his return because they thought he was gone. I wonder if Sombra's curse banished the Crystal Empire to Limbo seeing how time seems to have frozen for the inhabitants. I also wonder if Sombra cast the curse so that the empire would return when he did. Magic in the MLP world has so many applications…
I find it odd that Discord suggested turning the villain trio into stone. Even if he was awake as a statue only because he was so powerful, you'd think he—and anyone else—would be against something that cruel. Then again, Discord brought up that he could hear as a statue without anyone batting an eye. Maybe the creative team was trying to avoid drawing too much attention to such a dark fact, but this has the unfortunate effect of making it look like no one cares. ^_^;


I figured something out. Your theory on how the mean 3 came back in the middle of the time skip checks out. We can see this during the time skip with the glass art. After Flurry heart becomes the next protector of the crystal heart, there is a certain glass art just after  showing the main 6 as the elements of harmony... defeating them?

That was showing the events of "The Ending of the End" cause you can see Chrissy's horn is green like it was in that two parter. Plus, just like how Discord's defeat on stain glasses where still up in the halls long after season 3 and 4, they would probably still keep that window up even after they'd be given a second chance.


For starters, the Student 6 will likely be the next to defeat our foes. But maybe they won’t defeat them by locking them away or anything. Maybe they REFORM THEM. Show them that diversity and friendship will truly make you happier. In my opinion, these 6 characters would be the ideal choice for this. They’re already diverse and we know they have defeated foes before based on the window in the canterlot throne room in the final episode! Whose to say that chrysalis won’t succeed Thorax? We don’t know the life span of changelings, but Chrysalis probably lived for a very long time before we see her ruling, so maybe they’ll even rule together (obviously not as a couple since thorax is her son.) so, yes. They will come back. But I think the S6 will reform them. Maybe even Cozy will start teaching at the school (I also think that  starlight glimmer goes on to be the princess of forgiveness, meaning she could still be running the school)


Spell, that was cast by sisters and elements of harmony might've been weaker because it was elements of harmony. As we saw in the show, tree of harmony is alive and has its own mind, which probably mean that elements as part of tree could've cast the spell that wasn't fully powered. It's harmony and friendship after all, tree can't let someone stay prisoner into stone.


Discord was frozen for about a thousand years, and yet he wasn't particularly vengeful, although he is the lord of chaos, so he probably has a much different view on things.


2:54, no, the lesson is that he literally was right, that final battle prepared Twilight for anything, and Celestia never could have had that moment where she was so proud of Twilight without Discord bringing the villains together.


"Did he really learn his lesson, or was the lesson that he could get away with it?"<br>That sentence is the most accurate representation of Discord to ever come out of anything MLP

"Did he really learn his lesson, or was the lesson that he could get away with it?"
That sentence is the most accurate representation of Discord to ever come out of anything MLP

Ok I already see it. Grogar will bring mean 3 together and this time it will be real Grogar.

@Nalaye88 yes because he says together forever showing that he never plans to release villains again

Did he learn it .I'll think on it .Hmm 🤔🤔🤔


Thinking about it now that g5 still has the law of g4   They could all return I don’t think the 3 cosy glow, tirek and chrysalis will return because there were so prominent in g4 and would feel like there out of ideas.  But it’s still possible.

Although I think grogar has a higher chance  due to original grogar not being heavily in g4 and us only being give minimal info on grogar.      So I think for the og grogar  he could be play a big role in g5 or at least have some talk of him in g5


Discord was able to escape from his stone prison because, when he escaped, the royal princesses were "No longer connected to the elements" thus weakening the spell. but we see in the scene of the defeat of the legion of doom that discord himself turned them to stone, not the princesses. we can see that the the princesses magic only destroyed the cupcake, and the lightning from discord was what turned them to stone. If discord was only freed from stone because the princesses were no longer connected to the elements, I theorize that the Legion of Doom Wouldn't be freed unless discord was killed, and/or was somehow disconnected from his chaos magic, since that's what turned the Legion of Doom to stone. Just a theory, could be very very wrong. just wanted to share my thoughts. thanks for reading.


I personally imagine that the Young 6 took over the Mane 6's roles— probably with their own "Treehouse of Harmony," like you talked about in that one theory video— so if/when the Mean 3 came back, I think it was the Young 6 who had to deal with them. If it was as early as the hypothetical "season 10," it might've even been their big debut villain fight!


Finally- I’ve been theorizing how all villains came back so this is super pleasing to watch


Man, the nostalgia... the show ended and I'm back where I started, rewatching all the videos of the first brony youtuber I've ever watched. Thanks for all the memories. :)

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the only reason that discord was able to come back was because there was chaos that powered him. The other three might not come back because two of them firstly steal other pony's magic n are not strong enough on their own and the queen is powered by feeding of of love. Since the changlings have been reformed there is no one that could really bring them back except the mane 6


When Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glow turned to stone at the end of the series I always imagined that they were sent to tartarus and put into a cage that just barely fit the three of them inside, and if the spell ever wore off then they would be extremely uncomfortably cramped inside, constantlly shoving eachother around and bickering for eachother to move or get out of eachothers way, which would probablly a worse punishment to them than just being turned to stone in my opinion.


I've been reading PJO for a while now and I have just recognized some references in MLP from Mythology.

So,... I just wanna say, what if Grogar stopped existing?
Just like Briares' species, they stopped existing. Along with Helios and Selene who passed their roles to Apollo and Artemis, then faded/stopped existing. (Meaning, they're dead for good.)

I mean, literally Tartarus and those three-headed dogs? They're originally from those wonderful Greek Mythology.

Also, some other person commented about Grogar being sliced to pieces... This gives me an idea.
Like the Titan(s), Kronos was sliced by the gods/his children into thousand pieces and banished him into Tartarus. So, probably he'll reform the next fifty or hundreds/thousands of years later.

Please notice me, I just talked about My Little Pony being (a little bit) similar to Percy Jackson & The Olympians.


Hey Sawtooth, didn’t you say that it was Discord’s magic that turned the Mean 3 into stone not the sisters? My theory is that Discord’s chaos magic is permanent unless he tells it to wear off. We’ve seen an example of that in past episodes; Discord’s reform, as well as every other episode involving Discord, only countered by the banishing spells of the Elements, and possibly the Princesses alone.


Actually, you mentioning the magic drain made me just realize something: how was the barrier around the bell recast?

Remember, ALL spells had failed and stopped working altogether by the third day, meaning the spells guarding Grogar's bell would have failed too, disappearing into the aether.

So... how are they fully up and running again by Frienemies?

If spells like those stopped, they wouldn't just restart again once magic was returned to Equestria.

Someone would've needed to cast them again.

The only question is... who?

Actually, you mentioning the magic drain made me just realize something: how was the barrier around the bell recast?

Remember, ALL spells had failed and stopped working altogether by the third day, meaning the spells guarding Grogar's bell would have failed too, disappearing into the aether.

So... how are they fully up and running again by Frienemies?

If spells like those stopped, they wouldn't just restart again once magic was returned to Equestria.

*Someone* would've needed to cast them again.

The only question is... who?

@Johnathan Funk this makes alot of sense

@Johnathan Funk this makes alot of sense

@Autum Breeze interesting theory but spells don't necessarily need to be recasted remember in the crystalling they had a barrier that was casted by the crystal heart and when it broke the barrier came down but when the relic was restored the barrier automatically came back up u have an interesting theory but no evidence

@Omega Scizor it has been explicitly stated in season 4 when celestia chose discord for the mission giving the explanation that he can sense any shift in magic he is able to sense random ponies getting their magic stolen so why can't he sense a fall in a very specific place that he took interest in and plus I believe why he didn't know about the bell is because he can sense a change in magic but not what happened to it

While it is true that all spells, including ones on items had been absorbed for sending to another dimension. Everything that EVER had magic drained was restored the moment they stopped it. The animals in Tartaurus are proof of that. So it is reasonable that even barrier spells were restored (not that the bell was there anymore for it to guard anyway). So I beg to differ when you say that if those spells were stopped, they wouldn't restart again just because magic was returned. The way I see it is simple: Draining magic was like draining fuel for a machine. You can drain a tank empty but the machine remains. Refuel it and the machine resumes. A continuous spell like a barrier would be an example of an engine spell since even without the fuel, the imprint of the spell would have remained just as the animals in prison still had their imprint or template for being a combination of 2 animals. Temporary spells like portals, teleportation, etc are ones without a fuel that are meant to last forever but to simply serve much like a note for Inspector Gadget or a spy. Exist, use, then self-destruct.

Btw, even if the plan had succeeded. I think Cozy Glow's plan would have ultimately failed. Ponies would have gone through hard times but they knew enough science that they would have found new ways to continue on. Maybe not the say way but they would have lived. Any with wings would still be able to fly, all ground ponies would have still used their tools just like always. Who knows if Pinkie Pie could still defy the laws of nature but I doubt even something that takes all magic would be able to take what makes her, Pinkie Pie. :) I doubt their cutie marks would stop appearing as that is a natural thing. So just like man, they would undoubtedly ramp up their tech in times of this crisis to fulfill a need. The magic of friendship seems "different" than the magic of everything else or how else can you explain Twi and her friends beating Tirek when he had literally all the magic in Equestria? Cozy Glow's idea of "friendship" was more like having the "fake" friends of Facebook, not really a power there.

Well, I don't think the spell failed actually. If you watch the end of the episode, magic hadn't completely disappeared and ancient relics were just about working by the time the young 6 managed to save the day. I reckon such a powerful and ancient spell was still working and therefore didn't need to be recast 🤔

Maybe Gusty had seen this happen, and enchanted the bell to redo the shield if it ever came down.. the magical key thing the mane six used in season 8 didn’t stop working, so who said the bell wouldn’t stop the shield?

@Rainbowcraft 2
There is more then 1 example in those episodes. They all fall under the same catigory, but there is more then one example.

I didn't ignore it. In fact I even acknowledge that he has done intellegent things and pointed out that just because you have done somethings of intelligent- it doesn't automattically make you smart.

@Cameo Shadowness Honestly I'm not gonna argue with you, it's not worth the time. Just because someone makes stupid decisions on occasion doesn't make them stupid. For every example of Discord being stupid there's more than 1 example of him being very intelligent, but you are ignoring all that for I don't even know why. Ignoring evidence against your opinion indicates a bias not worth bothering with.

And if you want to be logic Discord was sitting on his throne the whole episode you can only see him when twilight recover the elements and when the mane 6 sees the chaotic version of ponyville

Omega Scizor well not 100% true cause in disharmony, when the mane six found the elements not even a minute later you can see discord waiting for them in front of twilight’s house

Autum Breeze well true but if so why did he believe the villains when they lied about not bringing the bell..

Autum Breeze it makes sence since in season 2 when discord first appear you can see discors’s aura(color of magic) and it is a light (kinda gray) yellow and in frenemies you can see that the magic barrier is the same color..

@Autum Breeze if Starswirl knew about Grogar, there's aa good chance he would have recast it.

@Autum Breeze if Starswirl knew about Grogar, there's aa good chance he would have recast it.

Autum Breeze magic objects still worked at that time so it could be a magic object that kept the spell up

Autum Breeze magic objects still worked at that time so it could be a magic object that kept the spell up

@Rainbowcraft 2
If he though he could handel them, why didn't he the moment they had him trap? Discord could teleport, he can manipulate space around him yet oh noo! Sticky gunk rendered him useless. That isn't the only way he was dumb.

None of his plan actually worked beyond geting the mean three to work together. The ONLY reason everything turned out okay was because of the student Six. If they hadn't gathered everyone else, the mane cast and Discord would have failed. Discord never even counted the student six when making his plan and everyone else couldn't handel the now over powered Mean 3.

They got through that through dumb luck. It didn't matter if Discord set Starlight and the mane six free, they couldn't handle it. Discord had no idea where anything was going, how or what they were doing until it was too late.

@Cameo Shadowness Smart people can make bad decisions. It doesn't make him an idiot just because he thought he could handle 3 villains. Discord's not stupid just because he was too cocky and got outsmarted. Had he not assumed he was in total control and kep an eye on them when getting the bell none of that would have happened. But that's not stupidity that's just overconfidence leading to a lack of appropriate caution. Of the like 10 ways to be intelligent or smart Discord hasn't really been too bad at any of them except a couple. So he's not stupid in general.

@Rainbowcraft 2 <br>Aaahhh yes because even though he set free 3 major criminals, gave them a bell to absorb and get magic through and knowing two of 3 of them are known to betray people (one of which did it TO HIM) and even though he had MULTIPLE WAYS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM, he was totally caught off guard and had all his magic stolen... Because that isn't being an idiot at all.

@Rainbowcraft 2
Aaahhh yes because even though he set free 3 major criminals, gave them a bell to absorb and get magic through and knowing two of 3 of them are known to betray people (one of which did it TO HIM) and even though he had MULTIPLE WAYS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM, he was totally caught off guard and had all his magic stolen... Because that isn't being an idiot at all.

Here another thought maybe the runes around the cave act as a sensor. If somepony or creature gets to close to the cave. The barrier activates. Sort of like a Automatic door that opens when you get close to the censor

I think its because it was done by an artifact, if you noticed when they got there, there was runes scrawled around on the cave entrance. Meaning magic stored within, and artifacts still had their powers, otherwise Neighsay couldn't have opened the portal to warn the Princesses.

@Cameo Shadowness Discord doesn't really seem all that stupid to me, he just doesn't use his common sense. It seems to me like he overthinks things and his plans go wrong because they had too many steps that had a chance to fail - and he makes huge intricate plans that a "stupid" character wouldn't be able to make.

Also there's nothing stupid about the way Discord freed the mane six in the season finale
https://youtu.be/7HTouTVDh44?t=103

@Autum Breeze Well, we know the Tree of Harmony was able to weather the storm. If the enchantment on the mountain was equal to or greater than the tree of harmony it would have been able to withstand it.

We know the magic was unusually long lasting. I am curious about the possibility that the enchantment was just so powerful that it lasted through the magic draining long enough to still be running by the time the tree of harmony was able to stop the whole thing from happening. And if so, it's possible the spell has a way to renew itself.

It's also entirely possible that the mountain was far enough from the event that it would have taken much longer to suck away the magic. Like a whirlpool with the draining being much stronger in the center than on the edges.

Most likely it's a loophole... but then again the pony that beat Grogar may have possibly been stronger than even the combined power of the Pillars of Equestria. In which case if the tree of harmony could survive as long as it did, the mountain which had a much stronger enchantment would have lasted longer.

We know the magic was unusually long lasting. I am curious about the possibility that the enchantment was just *so* powerful that it lasted through the magic draining long enough to still be running by the time the tree of harmony was able to stop the whole thing from happening. And if so, it's possible the spell has a way to renew itself.

It's also entirely possible that the mountain was far enough from the event that it would have taken much longer to suck away the magic. Like a whirlpool with the draining being much stronger in the center than on the edges.

Most likely it's a loophole... but then again the pony that beat Grogar may have possibly been stronger than even the combined power of the Pillars of Equestria. In which case if the tree of harmony could survive as long as it did, the mountain which had a much stronger enchantment would have lasted longer.

@Nazeem what is the point of rising the bro army and ending t series may i ask?

PewDiePie is a bad youtuber anyways
Edit:Hahaha XD you changed your name from RISE UP BRO ARMY AND END T SERIES

they'd not disappeared. Remember the chancellor's medallion. It worked after the incident without being repaired

@Shtreberka in the great words of pewdiepie "what the fuck is that even supposed to mean"

@Shtreberka in the great words of pewdiepie "what the fuck is that even supposed to mean"

@Vilitiina it is just useless just why would you spend your time making theories about ponies I just watch the show

The rocks around the cave where the bell was sealed. Had markings on them like runes. What if the magic came back and the runes reactivated on its own.

@Nazeem Except literally everyone but you.

@Nazeem Except literally everyone but you.

@Autum Breeze why though? Nothing suggest he can sense someone messing with his magic, just that he can sense magical disturbances. If anything, him not sensing Twilight undoing his spell over the mane 6 in return of harmony suggests the opposite.

@Nazeem are you a 5-year old or something

@Nazeem are you a 5-year old or something

@Omega Scizor it's Discord. Logic normally does not ally to him and if he could sense when the other Princesses gave Twilight their magic, I'm pretty sure he'd sense if someone messes with a spell he himself had cast

Well maybe don't start out with the assumption it had to be recast, and couldn't have just reactivated itself. Because then there's no reason to say there had to be someone recasting the spell.

Also since when does casting a barrier spell mean you can sense when someone puts a hole in it?

Autum Breeze you have a good point but maybe magical objects are easier to keep contained, if humans can do it to  art picture not recoated in 100+ years why can’t gusty do that to a powerful bell not used in millions of years.

Remember that the magic was returned back to thier original places at the end of season 8.<br>You don't see appljack having twilight's magic

Remember that the magic was returned back to thier original places at the end of season 8.
You don't see appljack having twilight's magic

@Autum Breeze
Well given that arcane circles and magical items are cannon, maybe not. Not too sure though to be honest.

Also HIGHLY doubt Discord would ever be that smart given how stupid he has proven to be.

@Cameo Shadowness but wouldn't it still have needed to be recast?

Unless Discord had already thought about Grogar by then, he wouldn't have even paid attention to the deactivated barrier and recast it.

Plus, and since that's the only way I see the spell being recast as it was obvious nopony even knew about the bell anymore, that would mean the barrier was Discord's magic and therefore would have known when Tirek opened the hole within the barrier for Cozy to squeeze through.

So either that or Rusty wasn't the only pony near that mountain and a descendant of Gusty recast the spell

Same as Tank's flying spell. A simple spin can let him fly so many it is a special spell that is set to reset itself.


if only they realize the beauty of friendship and love, they won't need to feel lonely


What if in the new generation, they come back? we can obviously see in screenshots from the new gen of the old generation like it's an obvious past / history, and it wouldn't surprise me, if the book that starts in the mlp fim and ends like it did in that series, is what the new characters read in the new generation which helps spark hope in the new community that lives on past the mane six?

I expect, that unsolved answers from mlp fim will be answered in the next generation to come, if they've not been revealed in the comic books, etc short stories by the creators of fim. maybe that's where we'll meet grogar? maybe he needs to wait to where there's a time where there is no magic to rule like he wants to, and with what magic he does have, with or without his bell, he makes a slow aging spell and he's able to live for a very, VERY long time. we already know that ponies and other creatures live longer depending on the specie they are, so what if the same is true for grogar? he could live as long as alicorns, longer, or he could live as long as another specie we already know, since dragons do age for a long while before they're considered adults, and that they can grow to be really big like ember's dad, which we don't know the age of, what if grogar somehow used his bell to store a little bit of each type of magic from each and every specie known to equestria to save up and use for an aging spell so he could rule at one point or another when those creatures had little to no magic left. or like you said, there could indeed be a time between Twilights coronation and the end where they could have defeated grogar, or the young six could have, or, like Celestia, or Starswirl,  Twilight could have fought grogar by herself and banished him between the generations and in that time banished herself like the old six (Starswirl and friends) turned herself into an alt dimension / plane of existance until something eventful with the new generation of the main characters to discover later on, or read about in history / myth that they find out is true.


Here’s a theory: we have seen that the elements can be use in different ways, all thought we have seen 3 ways. One of them is turning them to stone. And it can last probably for a couple of hundred years, but for discord it was 1000 years. And it wasn’t the main six who turned them into stone. They just had to turned them back to their normal form. But this time, discord turned the 3 villains into stone, but we don’t know how his spell can last for. We don’t know if the spell will last forever. We don’t know much power discord can use. Sorry if you don’t understand what I am saying, and this video was set a year ago so it’s no surprise that this theory is true.


When the villains came back, I'm sure there'd be a stronger emphasis on their origins. Like, where did Chrysallis come from? She's very pony like... so was she always a monster, or did she become one? If she did, considering she is a monster that feeds off love, it is likely after some kind of tragic love affair.
And what about Cozy Glow? What sort of background drives a young filly that bad?

This sort of theme could work as part of a greater redemption arc for the villains.

As an aside, BN, I wanted to ask if you'll be all right through the coronavirus. Several nations have already been hit very hard, and it won't be long before the rest of the world follows. Now is a good time to prepare for it.

Tirek's and Chrysalis's have been explained in the FIENDship is Magic series (comics, may or may be not canon since they were published in 2015) but none of Cozy Glow's. Considering these were published long ago, I don't think it's very likely we'll get Cozy Glow's backstory explained (may be explained in another comic or a post by the show, but at least not in the FIENDship is Magic), but at least Sawtooth has more theories to make . . . <3

Sawtooth already made a vid on chrysalis


They will come back eventually, you just proved it. Also, trapping a philly in stone is quite harsh.


I know I'm a year late but I think I know how discord,celestia's and luna's power was more powerful than the elements of harmony. He used the bell to give him power but being discord he could have given himself more power than he had before. Just a theory.


So I just came up with this, and im using theories from the past in it. :)

Grogar, Discord, Trek, and Trek's younger brother (forget his name) were all friends before Celestia and Luna came to Equestria. They were SO close, that they thought they could "rule" Equestria the same way Twilight does, with the magic of friendship. But, they went about it the WRONG way. Instead of trying to earn trust with the ponies of Equestria, they tried to force rulership. First, Discord was sent out because he was the 1nd most powerful. (Grogar hadn't had his bell.)  Discord tried to force HIS rulership by playing the the Equestrian ponies like puppets. It worked, until Celestia and Luna came to make harmony. When they turned Discord into stone, he aged through that "stone prison," causing him to get more powerful when he was freed. In the time Discord was turned to stone, Grogar and his "friends" staid hidden, for fear of Celestia and Luna overtaking THEM. But, as Celestia and Luna grew older and more powerful, Groger thought sending Trek and his brother to rule them NOW would've been better then waiting antoher 100 years. Better late then never, aye? But when Trek and his brother came from the Badlands, Trek's little brother saw the Main 5 when Twilight was still in Canterlot, and realized the magic of friendship. But then Trek came to be, and Discord thought he'd start "preparing Twilight for the future." He decided to team up with Trek, to try to earn his friendship and trust in the end. BUT, when he saw Twilight giving up her magic for her friends, and THEN saving HIM after betraying her, Discord knew his idea wasn't the best. But, his chaotic spirit made him want to "prepare" them some more. So then, he cast his "sparkle cutie mark" spell to give Twilight, her friends, and the Pillars a hint on where to find the Pony of Shadows. (He also had been that shadow in the episode where Twilight and her friends are wandering the Castle of the 2 Sisters) Preparations! But then, Grogar had wandered off for more lands to conquer, thus him never returning. Equestria CANT be the only place in the world, like Africa and China here. Discord then got the "BEST IDEA EVER" to steal Grogar's bell and transform into an EVEN-MORE-POWERFUL-GROGAR. So, when Trek, Cozy Glow, and Queen Chrysalis came to Grogar's lair, Discord was thrilled to "prepare" Twilight even more. He knew Trek, Cozy, and Chrysalis would try to steal his power, so he let it happen. After being exposed, he ran off to warn Twilight, because he didn't have his magic to do anything to prevent the upcoming war. So, after being yelled at by Celestia, Liuna, and Twilight, he had another idea. He would use his past on them. He gave Celestia and Luna the idea to live-a-little before they FULLY retired, to turn the Evil Trio into a stone encasement.
(Now making up my own future for Equestria)
When the Evil Trio is released, Discord would still be living, because he's immortal. Discord and the Main 6 could easily send them back to stone. BUT, for a longer time, because Flurry Heart and Starlight Glimmer (WOULD) be Alicorns. They could send them back to a stone encasement for a FEW lifetimes, and the circle would continue, until finally the Evil Trio of Trek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysilis would learn the magic of friendship.


I have theory that might sound pretty far fetched I believe Discord and Grogar truly are the same beings and Discord just doesn’t want anyone to

know this would explain how he knew so much about Grogar’s history but I also think Discord was in some way responsible for everything in the

series (as Twilight said Discord was setting up challenges for them the whole time and he didn’t deny it) like maybe he could still use some kind of

magic while being in stone that allowed him to free Nightmare Moon and Tirek while Cerberus was away and maybe even give Chrysalis her first

 plan in season 2 which inevitably caused her to be vengeful and become (in my opinion) the series main villain I also think he was able to use

magic to bring Sombra back in season 3 as well as manipulating Starlight,Sunset and Cozy Glow to become evil I also think he somehow turned

Stygian into The Pony of Shadows and Luna into Nightmare Moon as for why he would do all of this I think Discord was never ‘evil’ exactly but was

just testing rulers his cosplay as Grogar was to test Gusty the great and he himself tested Celestia and all the others were to test Twilight and

since ‘Grogar’ claimed to have created monsters I think Discord created all the monsters of the Everfree Forest and The Sirens and Windigoes

(which were all major factors in Equestria as The Sirens brought the pillars together and The Windigoes in a way helped create Equestria) like I

said pretty far fetched but I think it’s possible


I'm starting feel that the show could've had at least one more (animated) season to clear up the lore.

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I think that since discord helped instead of the elements, they are trapped forever because the elements are powered and they were “hidden” which I interpret as almost put on pause they were not being used and neither was they’re power they were essentially dead but discord he doesn’t age, well he does but he doesn’t die (well from what I can remember) and neither do the princesses if I’m right, then they are trapped forever because they’re magic is passed down but it’s not gone completely right? And even if it’s gone that magic is IN TWILIGHT so they are still trapped! That’s my theory hope you give it a second thought 😉


Given G5 I'm curious if we'll actually see the 3 again or if they're truly dead. And if so and if your theory that their anger will fester for that many years....it could mean horrible times for the new main protagonists.


My favorite theory from you about Grogar was him being banished to the stars I think that’s a pretty accurate to be honest


There's something that's been on my mind for a short time, and I think you know about this. But after furry heart became a ruler with her mother and the little six defeated something like a bull looking figure. The little six have defeated a villian and maybe new threat. But after that happened, there's a glass that there happened to have a pony with sweetie belle's tail. I think the cutie mark crushaders done something together, like joining their magic together. Maybe a magic such as pegasus, unicorn, and earth pony, like what started heart's warm eve. So I decided to try and see where the 3 is in the future and they were at the school teaching. But, I didn't look into it more because of school and stuff with COVID-19, maybe you could.


Now that I watch Sawtooth's videos again Discord DID bring back Grogar! Well he didn't actually brought him back, but he essentially did.


Kinda wished they learned from the Storm King's demise ... he's legitimately the only villain who has never come back, not only because he was just the film's main villain but because his fate was the evil three's demise taken one step further: he was turned to stone, and shattered to pieces in that state.

Granted that wasn't what the ponies had planned. It was all because of circumstance and being at a bad position at the worst of times: he flung the jade at the mane six from the edge of the balcony, but Tempest lunged at him and made contact with it with him in range -- hence the turning into stone and falling to his death part.

My point is that turning the evil three to stone and just ... leaving them like that feels really negligent of them, regardless if it was Discord wanting things to come circle. They all know Discord escaped the same prison himself so why not smash that thing to pieces afterwards?


Before the show ended, I kinda thought that Cozy Glow would be redeemed and become the Young Six's friend. Every version of the Elements of Harmony friends had a redeemed friend who once tried to destroy them. The Mane Six have Starlight, the Pillars have Stygian, and the Equestria Girls have Sunset. It would jut make sense. I had this theory that after Stygian turned good, a new element came into being, the Element of Redemption (because forgiveness is a very big part of friendship). It isn't a physical element like the others, because those were made from some of each of the Pillars' magic, the Tree of Harmony had only the magic of the six. But the magic the Elements represented still existed after they were destroyed, so this new Element wouldn't have to have been a physical crystal for it's magic to be a part of Equestria. This would explain why each generation (except the Young Six, but I think that will happen with Cozy in the future) has a seventh member who was once a villain they had to defeat, and also why there were seven geodes in Equestria Girls.