I would have loved to see a earth pony become a alicorn. It would be cool to see a regular pony learn to control magic and wings.

@🍮PUDDING🍮 She's the new protagonist in My Little Pony the Next Generation.

《Ghosty The Dead Person》 ITS LEVIOOOOSA NOT LEVIOSAAAA

@M.O.D * AGGRESSIVE HARRY POTTAH MUSIC *

Well there is something that you need to know...

This was before the movie came out they did not no

Lol guys you guys saying that its sunny makes sense

Your wish came true my friend (*^o^)人(^o^*)


“Are there any other naturally born alicorns?”

To quote Celestia at Flurry Heart’s birth, “that is something beyond even our understanding”

“Are there any other naturally born alicorns?”

To quote Celestia at *Flurry Heart’s* birth, “that is something beyond even our understanding”

"A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen" Celestia

"That is something beyond even our understanding" Luna

@DawnTheNightLightFury Thx.Also,it’s fine,happens to me sometimes

@Łÿd_Gäçhä oh lol, can't remember that anymore, you have good memory


I personally thought to become a true alicorn you have to accomplish something great like how twilight finished a spell, but theres a downside in my theory, we've already seen other ponies who have accomplished great things but are not alicorns, so i got nothin

Create new magic is probably what you need to do to become a alicorn


As we see in the map in this video, there is an ocean around equestria. There could be many more alicorns in other continents, if equestria was just one of the continents.

@hi I literally made a whole FANIFIC that made a new continent, Hi. There's no stopping me now.

but i might have just been salty that day

@LittleBagelPolytope Watched the video and still dont know why its not possible 🤷🤔

@eeliot i dont know because this is from a year ago and i need to rewatch the video 😔

@hi I'll stop you right there via <b>worldbuilding noises</b>

@hi I'll stop you right there via *worldbuilding noises*


Here's my theory, there were at one point, multiple alicorns. In fact, there was enough to populate Canterlot, before it became where the main royal castle is located. If you read 'The Diary of the Two Sisters & The Journal of Friendship', Celestia and Luna were born alicorns. They lived with a group of other alicorns, who were born that way. Star Swirl the Bearded actually visited Celestia and Luna to ask for their help in uniting the three pony tribes, just after that first Hearth's Warming. I believe the alicorn colony LEFT Canterlot and went to some other place afterwards, because we never hear of them again in later times. Anyway, back to my theory! Celestia and Luna left behind an alicorn named Glowing Burst, who actually knows more than Twilight (I know, shocking, right?), Celestia, Luna, AND Cadence COMBINED! 'How?', you may ask? It's simple, she actually time travelled long before Star Swirl, got her Cutie Mark in time travelling, met a Draconequus named Discord, who's the Guardian of Chaos, found out she's the Guardian of Time, put the idea to use the time travelling spell in Starlight's head, watched from the sidelines as her friends from a time long gone forget about her, grow dependent on others, and as if that wasn't enough, she has viewed the end of Equestria so many times, it feels more like a memory than an actual future event, as she can view all possible futures for every single creature in Equestria and the lands beyond, as well as Equestria in general. <b>huff puff</b> I'm out.

Here's my theory, there were at one point, multiple alicorns. In fact, there was enough to populate Canterlot, before it became where the main royal castle is located. If you read 'The Diary of the Two Sisters & The Journal of Friendship', Celestia and Luna were born alicorns. They lived with a group of other alicorns, who were born that way. Star Swirl the Bearded actually visited Celestia and Luna to ask for their help in uniting the three pony tribes, just after that first Hearth's Warming. I believe the alicorn colony LEFT Canterlot and went to some other place afterwards, because we never hear of them again in later times. Anyway, back to my theory! Celestia and Luna left behind an alicorn named Glowing Burst, who actually knows more than Twilight (I know, shocking, right?), Celestia, Luna, AND Cadence COMBINED! 'How?', you may ask? It's simple, she actually time travelled long before Star Swirl, got her Cutie Mark in time travelling, met a Draconequus named Discord, who's the Guardian of Chaos, found out she's the Guardian of Time, put the idea to use the time travelling spell in Starlight's head, watched from the sidelines as her friends from a time long gone forget about her, grow dependent on others, and as if that wasn't enough, she has viewed the end of Equestria so many times, it feels more like a memory than an actual future event, as she can view all possible futures for every single creature in Equestria and the lands beyond, as well as Equestria in general. *huff puff* I'm out.

@Willie Jones im pretty sure its called the spirit of chaos no lord...

@Willie Jones To quote MatPat, it's just a theory, a firm theory.

UM...wrong also discord is the lord of chaos not guardian...

actually at flurry heart's birth after princess luna realized she was an alicorn she said "that is even beyond OUR understanding" keyword: our


"U forgot Flurry heart"
"um flurry heart"
"flurry heart is an alicorn!!!!!"
"The Bab"
"u forgot flurry heart dude"
"The catens baby is an acorn"
"flurry heart"
"there are 5 princesses flurry heart daaaaaa"
"FLURRY HEART"
"Yeah flurry hearts"
"flurry heart is an alicorn"
"how aboth candance babby"
"if you include fluffy heart i think her name is 5"
"Flurry heart is an alikon"
"heart"
"princess Flory hards is the only junekorn beby"
"FLURRY HEART!!!!!!"
"FLURRY HEART 11!!1!1!1!!!"
"They come.the baby of kaidens is the first that born"

This video was made 5 years ago, and 5 years ago flurry heart didn't even exist.


alternate title: Discussing Alicorns but every time Sawtooth asks a big question, the intro plays


I think the way an alicorn is an alicorn is that they need to achieve or do something that no pony has done before or maybe discover a deep magic within them like how Twilight discovered the magic of friend ship within her with just that little Spark to push her in the right direction and just how Cadence discovered that love is strong in its own way a


I sometimes wish they respected Lauren's wishes by making Celestia and Luna the only alicorns. Having the mane six consist of two unicorns, two pegasai and two earth ponies made the show feel like they were all equal and all the main focus but Twilight becoming an alicorn (especially over the span of three measly seasons) kind of made her the special snowflake of the show and now her friends are just along for the ride.

@CuteSkeleton93 quarantine meant we had more time, so youtube recommended older stuff? Idk man

@Antoinette That comment I made was 7 years ago before Flurry Heart was even canon to the show. Why are people suddenly replying to comments I made almost a decade ago? I don't even remember typing these 😔

Captain flurry heart you are forgetting flurry hard how could you forget the cute little baby alicorn flurry heart 👎

I don't particularly mind it because the show was very twilight focused to begin with. Obviously the first episode has to be about how twilight met her friends, but there's also the element of magic being "the most important", it being a crown instead of a necklace, etc. Twilight has always been center stage, her becoming an alicorn and a princess by extension just made it more obvious

@Vera Ong dont you mean uhh whats her name- starlight the one with the shooting star looks similar to twilight

I agree. It lowkey makes me a bit mad. The whole 2-2-2 thing just felt right, and when it was changed, it just felt wrong.

@Yoshi is a dog I think in a way Cadance (or Cadence) is OK but seriously TWILIGHT<br>The show was about all their adventures sure  Twilight was still the main character (Leading to me hating her tbh) but they still had a sort of equality

@Yoshi is a dog I think in a way Cadance (or Cadence) is OK but seriously TWILIGHT
The show was about all their adventures sure  Twilight was still the main character (Leading to me hating her tbh) but they still had a sort of equality

Yeah...To be honest That made me hate Twilight

Yeah...To be honest That made me hate Twilight

I really wished they did keep the main 6 have all two of each cause my younger self had an extreme OCD crisis because of it like PLEASR CANT WE HAVE TWO OF EACH IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER AND HAS A GOOD MEANING QWQ

Yeah it just made her the mary sue, what makes her better? Why does she deserve it more? Like I feel like they all had to work hard to get somewhere but Twilight basically got everything given to her. (I mean rarity took like 5 seasons to become a famous fashion designer, Rainbow dash about the same amount to become a Wonderbolt, flutter shy used to be bullied and that scarred her, Pinkie had to live with being a collor ful happy pony in a family of rocks and apple jack, wel she’s just apple jack and has a good and clear character) while twilight just was born as a unicorn in a really good family, studied a bit and became Celestias student then you know just depended on her friends for the other seasons and boom Princess after only 3 seasons, it just really doesn’t feel deserved.

Let's not forget that Twilight is an immortal being because is an alicorn alicorn is an immortal being and her friends are not so one day her friend will pass away and she will not that's so sad I wish all of them were alicorns or at least give them immortality

Minecraft animations same it's always abaut twylight why did she becom an alicorn in the first place i mean if she is so strong why did the others always have to save her and that stuff

Special? She is the center of everything! Out of the mane six, it is always Twilight, Twilight, Twilight. Since she became an alicorn, the other five are like any other ponies in Equestria. Background decoration. But even before Twilight became an alicorn I felt she was getting the spotlight more than the others of the mane 6.

Warning this may be a spoiler for those of you not caught up! Same as Alisha Dee, I also thought 2 unicorns (Twilight and Rarity) 2 pegasi (Rainbow and Fluttershy) and 2 earthponies (Applejack and Pinkiepie) was really cool and showed equality. But (here's where this may be a spoiler) now that Starlight Glimmer is learning from Princess Twilight, she may be the unicorn to make it equal. Even with Twilight being an alicorn princess now.

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+Alisha Dee In my opinion, with a very large ensemble show like this -- you need to have one main  character to be the center star of the show. I know it sounds unfair and everyone will have their favorite character but, I think for an ensemble show to do well, it needs to have a single heart, if that makes sense. Let's take a non-cartoon show like Lost for example. ... The story was always about Jack ... despite the rest of the people on the Island. ... Just like with MLP, when Twilight became an alicorn, I was floored because I knew, then, that the show was always about Twilight. I feel like a story needs to have one central character that goes through quite a lot of changes. That's not to say that one character is better than another or that a different character can't have growth and change, too ... but for the sake of story only. To me, it makes the story they're trying to tell much more deep and, at the same time, easier to follow.

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@Adam Humphreys OMFG PREACH IVE NEVER LIKED A COMMENT SO FAST

So very much agreed. I'm actually glad this topic is still comes up. And although Creshosk has valid points and has revealed things of interest to me, I think there’s still much more to consider.

Yes, Hasbro needs to sell things, but rather than let the writers/show staff make believable characters/ect. that people would more readily buy and let the marketing department get to work on derived toys, Hasbro forced a toy into the show that was undesired by the audience because it did great damage to the story in progress (i.e. the workflow was forced backwards). Thus we have Twilicorn and her crystal castle out of virtually nowhere in the midst of a town founded by earth ponies, (not a pony from the well off capital of Canterlot). And yes, toys need to be ready to go when the show airs, but even the events, designs, and stories in the show are ready to go many months before airing, so that’s not really a valid excuse. :/

I honestly think the season 2 finale could’ve made much more impact than it did had Cadence been a pegasus. :) The “power of love,” saved them, but it had alicorn love, and we already know alicorns possess a power on the order of magnitude of 1/4 of the pony population (which happens to include a former god of chaos). The idea that Chrysalis could be easily defeated by the power of another alicorn + unicorn team after expending the needed energy to defeat Celestia is simple. Had she been defeated by a unicorn + pegasus team, then one could easily conclude it was more than raw power, the actual power of love. That would’ve been awesome. ^^ But now we have more status-quo demigod type alicorn princess rather than any unicorn, pegasus, or earth pony princesses.

Though Twilight was “shoehorned into every episode in the first season,” the direction of season 2 clearly spread further outward. Why attention suddenly went backward to Twilight is beyond me. Her new status as a super powerful being in season 4 was left virtually unaddressed and unnoticed with Twilight Time being the awkwardly painful exception. Thus during season 4 there was no sense of fulfillment and the main characters were reduced to their stereotypes. In all honestly, given what Creshosk has said about Lauren’s original ideas, I can’t help but think the whole series could’ve actually been better! :O

What’s more, I find it quite hilarious that “timewise” according to the series, since Celestia recounts as if the last or so Summer Sun Celebration was absent of Luna, and we observe two winters, it only took less than two pony years for Twilight to go from an anti-social bookworm unicorn to the power alicorn princess of friendship. XD

@Alisha Dee I agree with your points. They were equal, it was Lauren's show, and now it's all ", twilight, Twilight, g. TWILIGHT!!!!"
~Midnight
And if there are 6 seasons, possibly more, that is really early to poof alicorn! They could have at least waited until season 5 or something :P

@Alisha Dee I agree with your points. They were equal, it was Lauren's show, and now it's all ", twilight, Twilight, g. TWILIGHT!!!!"
~Midnight
And if there are 6 seasons, possibly more, that is really early to *poof* alicorn! They could have at least waited until season 5 or something :P

but there are several things that make Twilight kinda dodgy, for example in "a Canterlot Wedding" why did she not blast Chryssie with her magic when she caught her draining Shining Armour's love for Cadence?  <br>Also She lets Rarity push Spike around and so on.

but there are several things that make Twilight kinda dodgy, for example in "a Canterlot Wedding" why did she not blast Chryssie with her magic when she caught her draining Shining Armour's love for Cadence?
Also She lets Rarity push Spike around and so on.

Exactly! It's like Twilight is better than anypony else, and it's so annoying!

Exactly! It's like Twilight is better than anypony else, and it's so annoying!

@Alisha Dee Good shit ^^^ explaining everything I hate. I don't even understand the reasoning behind Twilight becoming an alicorn because although she might be magical and understanding of friendship but... still? Celestia and Luna are both immortal with so much power and it just seems right that they should be the singular rulers of Equestria. Having Cadence and Twilight as alicorns to me is pointless (the crystal empire bullshit) and why Twilight became an alicorn doesn't add up to me. (Also she's apparently nothing without her friends yet Hasbro tries to make her seem better than them)

Oh and also, since Twilight became an alicorn, Hasbro seems determined to find the perfect arch-nemesis for Twilight. Not the Mane 6's enemy of course because TWILIGHT is better than her friends and the Mane 6 are just there to be there, not to actually play a part in the show, right? Sunset Shimmer (her name is the opposite of Twilight Sparkle?) and Starlight Glimmer (her name is similar to Twilight). They both were thirsty for the power that TWILIGHT had.

The Mane 6 has hardly had any character development since S4. In season 1 we were introduced to Fluttershy's talent of sewing, Pinkie's ability to play 10 instruments at the same time, Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom, etc. Hasbro doesn't even bother to develop these ideas and instead just repeats them? The finale for Season 4 was literally just a showdown between Twilight and Tirek to try to force us into liking how badass Twilight is. It actually didn't have anything to do with the plot. Not to mention the rest of her friends were just sitting inside their bubble prisons, not really contributing until the end when they got rainbowfied.

I'm also sad that the Elements of Harmony are gone, that was one of the things that held the Mane 6 together. And it's gone because of the Rainbow Power. The Rainbow Power didn't even need to happen too, it was for the merchandise, again. The Element Tree was just used to get rid of the Elements and the character development of the Mane 6.

Lauren Faust is my one and only Senpai and I fully support her vision of what MLP was. Thanks to Hasbro for ruining the show for me? Whatever pony trash is happening now I fully disapprove of, sorry guys :P

+Creshosk But..wait..Twilight was a unicorn when she was born. So technically, she's been a unicorn longer than an Alicorn. (If we think logically and not based off of the time She was in the show)

+SRChannel yeah I just watched season 1-4 and they should

+SRChannel yeah I just watched season 1-4 and they should

I do agree. making Twilight an alicorn did mess up the balance. I hope the writers realize that and pay some attention to the other five. maybe add anthor unicorn.make them learn lessons and actually remember them so they don't make the same mistakes!!! seriously, look at AJ. she is way too stubborn and she learned so many times to admit she is wrong. but she keeps making the same mistakes. oh, every lesson wasn't about admitting that she was wrong! They were about things like accepting help or not treating your younger siblings like helpless babies! No wonder she keeps making mistakes about stubbornness!

Ikr? Twilight becoming an Alicorn ruined the balance of the Mane 6!

Ikr? Twilight becoming an Alicorn ruined the balance of the Mane 6!

@Alisha Dee I actually thought Twilight was becoming more princess-like over the first 3 seasons so I don't have a problem with it.

They did an incredible job keeping her equal with her friends in the seasons since anyway, her personality is just like that regardless of status, she views others as equal.

I also loved how they departed from the usual formula for the season 3 finale and the songs were very catchy and beautiful.

Remember she was a pony from Canterlot and unlike most ponies from there she wasn't ever snobby and never acted like a "special snowflake" even though she was one. It makes her all the more admirable having so much ability and not bragging about it.

Plus she still gets spells wrong and makes mistakes even as a princess so it's not like she's boring or anything.

Also think of it this way - the mane six has 3 ponies with wings and 3 without :P

Plus they did say at the end of Season 4 "what is the Princess of Friendship without her friends", plus when she became an alicorn her friends' elements actually launched the magic at her, AND the cutie map sometimes doesn't even send her, it sends some of her friends.

So actually I think Princess of Friendship is really a shared title, all Twilight's powers come from - and are shared with- her friends. The rainbow powers, the glowing cutie mark map message thingy, it's all intertwined with them. She may have the wings but all of them have a bit of alicorn in them after Twilight gained her status/

+jacksparrowismydaddy true, nature is good

+jacksparrowismydaddy true, nature is good

@Ryan Schulz I love Silverquills ideas about ANYTHING lol that dude makes me laugh so hard.

@Sapphire MLPfan125 it could grow maybe vines and stuff around it.. it'll bring back the rustic feel and idea of nature taking back human/pony made structures has always appealed to me. also I think the castles would sell better if they didn't come apart so dang easy. we just gave up after the 12 millionth time they both fell apart.

@Alisha Dee I like silver quills idea about it though

@Alisha Dee I like silver quills idea about it though

+Alisha Dee <br>It's too big though and twilight and spike only live there so... It's real empty

+Alisha Dee
It's too big though and twilight and spike only live there so... It's real empty

@***** I know, I know but the Buy our toys, HARDER joke, would fit perfecty with the twilicorn thingy

Personally I think that cadance (or cadence, whatever that´s not the point) and twilight were just made to create more merhandise of it)
Seriously, since Twilight became a princess: 2 castles, 1 car and a whole new mlp toy line (crystal princess celebration),were released (and that´s only the begining)
And in the show, I agree with you  +Alisha Dee and a big examlpe of it is that when the mane six sent Twilight home (S4 EP2) They started messing everything up and saying that they shouldn´t have sent Twilight back.
At that point Everything was like "Man, twilight is awesome and without her, the other five are nothing" (or at last that´s how I felt)

Please don´t hate on me, just my personal opinion.

@Sapphire MLPfan125 It would look great if it wasn't sitting on top of that stupid tree. The actual castle sitting on top of it looks fine, it  matches the color of Twilight and that giant version of her cutie mark is okay because her mark represents her friendship with the other five. Whoever designed this castle/tree hybrid was on something, people probably wouldn't have complained as much if it didn't look like the tree was trying to strangle the actual castle, I mean sheesh.

My main problem is the castle. Like Silver-Quill the castle is out of place and the colors!!! I know Hasbro wanted money to get the castle but wait they couldn't have made more money with treehouse

IKR I hate how twilight became an Alicorn,she  is literally the main character of the show,that's why she's my least favorite.now rarity is the only unicorn in the main 6 too.

Yeah I've always thought that. 2, 2, and 2 but Twilight became an alicorn and blah blah. But Sunset Shimmer could be Twilight 2.0 but my past is not today, uhhhh the point people thinks Sunset is an alicorn UHHHHH so idk


just wanted to say, i remember watching this about 4 years ago, after my best friend (and most amazing person ever) got me into mlp and visiting this channel again, and seeing all the (good!!) changes has made me happy 😊


Alicorn: Their mere existence brings imminent doom.


Here's my theory, the reason Alicorns could be so worshiped you could say is not only because of their magic but because of the mere fact that they have authority over the kingdom with Celestia's blessing which could be why everyone would worship Twilight and Cadence because they were given their "roles" by Celestia the ruler of the kingdom so why wouldn't they worship them? And as for Celestia and Luna they are the Sun and Moon Goddesses and night and day are needed by them so why wouldn't anyone worship them. Of course their power over the others physically ties in to the magic as you were saying. But the Alicorns also could've started being royalty from the first Alicorn to the last because normal ponies had never seen Alicorns before. With this they were raised higher in the hierarchy for being different.


I think Cadence was Unicorn, cause she said that she can't fly well with the episode with Discord and Twilight, and carrying the flower for Discord's disease.


Celestia and Luna’s parents were killed by District Court when he was even more powerful but that was just coded from the show on how they actually died


Now that I think about it, cozy glow might be the only artificial alicorn


"...and ponies to demigods"<br>Sawtooth: Proceeds to put Flutteshy

"...and ponies to demigods"
Sawtooth: Proceeds to put Flutteshy


Guy i just figured out something,when u look at twilight,cadence,celestia and luna's wing they have a different pattern on them and the the pegesi who are naturally born have different....but flurry is a naturally bor alicorn but has the pattern on her wings just like the princesses...


I think it would be impossible for twilight to make a pony obtain wings RIGHT NOW but when she turns queen maybe she’ll get the power of turning ponies to alicorns because we’ve only seen then get wings or horns by Princesse celestia.


To be an alicorn, you need a horn, wings, and the strength of the earth ponies


OMG. I have been longing to have this exact question answered!! Thank you so much for making these videos!! :).


The answer is yes. There might be other alicorns. I am working on some kind of MLP fanfic about an alicorn but called the "Legendary Alicorn" it's just a personal thing but I would like the story to keep ongoing. There's so much Hasbro left for us and I would try and write a good story. It'll be a bit violent but appropriate for bronies who are over the age of 14. Are There Other Alicorns? Of course. gotta wait and look...


The map of Equestria being based on North America implies that there are other continents which have their own Alicorns. That would be cool, imagine a Europe with an alicorn based on a Roman emperor.


I make a theory of that Flurry Heart is the element of crystals.


Interesting. I suppose other alicorns could exist outside of Equestria.


The "2 types of alicorns, naturally born and artifical alicorns" is debunked aka false because in the episode where cadences and shining armors offspring is born, she was born a alicorn and they state that a pony being born a alicorn has Never Happened Before so that means that since cadence and luna are much much older then the baby, that means they couldnt possibly be born a alicorn if it was stated to never happen before.

The "2 types of alicorns, naturally born and artifical alicorns" is debunked aka false because in the episode where cadences and shining armors offspring is born, she was born a alicorn and they state that a pony being born a alicorn has *_Never Happened Before_* so that means that since cadence and luna are much much older then the baby, that means they couldnt possibly be born a alicorn if it was stated to never happen before.


How about this...  Celestia and Luna are divine and were not "born" in a mortal sense.  Cadance and Twilight ascended to alicorn status with the blessing of a divine alicorn.  (I admit I do not know Cadance's backstory.)  As a naturally born alicorn, Flurry Heart is unique and miraculous since divinity and mortality have previously always been separate opposed categories.  If Luna and Celestia are fully divine, and Twilight and Cadence are semi-divine and semi-mortal by virtue of their apotheosis, Flurry Heart may be paradoxically fully divine and fully mortal.

Also, GREAT video!  Love it!


Also this is a theory.

The flowy hair is only given to great power.
Take cadence for example. She doesen’t control the sun and moon. She controls love. Which is still not as powerful as the sun and moon. Same goes for twilight.
Proof: When tirek took the magic from celestia and Luna their manes stopped flowing.
Bonus theory: Celestia and Luna actually ARE born alicorns. As it takes magic to become an alicorn unless you are born as one. When tirek took the magic from celestia and Luna they still kept their alicorn form.


Tbh i feel like when the mane 6 were all equal ( 2 pegasy 2 earth ponies and 2 unicorns) they all worked together yet twilight was still the special snowflake but now twilight is an alicorn and does much things by herself which makes me think is twilight the only mane mane charecter? also if im being honest... i wish celestia and luna were the only alicorns cause cadence kinda over shines them in some episodes (im not saying cadence doesnt desserve love ) but celestia and luna still are on the same level! and with twilight being an alicorn is interesting yes we needed another princess after the sisters left for silver shors but dont you think in the last ep we couldve had someone else ruling or still having the sisters?


In episode 3, season one (ticket master) rarity wants to marry Celestia's nephew (atleast that's what I remember) this nephew was not an alicorn and infact a unicorn. (And yes I know this was a while back but I just wanted to say) Could the sisters Celestia and Luna, have another sister who is just a unicorn (or a brother)?  Can someone reply to this if you know the answer to this theory 'cause I'd very much like to know 👋♥ (edit:) In another video someone said that Cadence was Celestia's niece is there another sister? Or did Celestia just take her in as a niece or somethin'.

The wiki (based on the comics) says they have a brother and a sister, like that Snowflake and Prince Blue blood are related to them without being their children. I don’t know what happend to their brother but their sister went evil and was basically a pony Elsa called Ingrid.

And a child knows if he likes unicorns all aboutanus in all the episodes of her so it is told by the unicorns and Pegasus and all the stuff if you see in the chat first on 11 date of February month 2016 on there is my message about written all the stuff and they are such a big library will not belong it

Whoever has made this videoyes just in the characters from the Google aur one of the videos and then we are just telling us we ask any episode so he will just say oh yeah how he's up such a big liar

so im not sure about price blueblood, her nephew, but i am pretty sure cadence was taken in by celestia, i think in the book (crystal heart's spell)? sawtooth has a video in this somewhere. could be this one? ill have to check.


You made a video about this in the future and there's gonna be a 5th born alicorn named flurry heart from princess cadence and princess Celestia herself said "A birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen before" and princess Luna said "It is beyond even our understanding" so NO Celestia and Luna were NOT born alicorns.


"The Journal of the Two Sisters" confirms that there were other Alicorns.  In fact, Canterlot was originally an alicorn city.  We are forced to assume that all the alicorns died sometime before Discord came around.  In fact, he probably was just taking advantage of their absence.

Claiming the books aren't cannon would require some seriously definitive evidence from the show, since both writers are also show writers.  There's a lot of evidence that the Equestria Girls books aren't cannon and the comics have gotten iffy.  But the books by Berrow and Rogers are as cannon as the episodes they wrote.

+Tyrone Bryant
Jim Miller saying that the comic and the show "will remain separate" doesn't mean that the comics aren't canon. It only means that the comics won't have any bearing on what Hasbro or anyone at Media DHX will be doing with the show in regards to stories that they (Hasbro and/or Media DHX) has planned. That doesn't mean that they're non-canon. It only means that the comics are canonical side-stories. The same thing literally happens with any other popular show, movie, or game that has tie-in media. You can't expect many fans to enjoy the shows, movies, or games in question if the tie-in media is made a major part of the story of the show/movie/game. (Or at least a show/story/game if it's episodic.) Otherwise, writers will run the risk of their fanbase losing track of how the story unfolds in the show/movie/game. Which could end up with losing fans instead of gaining fans.

Also,  https://twitter.com/AndyPriceArt/status/461550768492150784
Andy Price couldn't have said truer words. And again, the show hasn't contradicted the comics in any major way. So...

@LittleAl016
BTW, look what I found! http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/02/comics-and-show-to-remain-separate-canon.html

+Tyrone Bryant
I don't know where you're getting the idea about there being a time-travelling mirror in the comics that's not mentioned on the show from. The only magical mirror in the comics that I can think of is a dimension-hopping mirror similar to, yet different from, the one seen in Equestria Girls. (As a matter of fact, the mirror in question is the prototype of the mirror seen in Equestria Girls.) The Luna that Celestia was seeing every time she stepped through that mirror is explicitly different from the one she reluctantly imprisoned on the moon. And there is a reason that nopony bothers to take advantage of the mirror. As frequent use would cause a disruption that would affect the fabric of the worlds connected. A bit unrelated to the IDW comics, but as a matter of fact, such a phenomenon is later seen happening in Friendship Games.

There is a comic centered around time travelling, however. But no mirror is involved, and neither are Celestia or Luna.

And again, I'm not seeing how there are "implications against the comics being canon". If anything there's far more implications that they are canon than there is that they aren't. (Barring of course Word of God, which has said that they are.) The Shadowbolts seen in Friendship Games for starters were originally mentioned in the Equestria Girls prequel comic by IDW. Babs's Cutie Mark was also foreshadowed in Friends Forever 13, and in Bloom & Gloom, her Cutie Mark turns out to be a pair of scissors.

@LittleAl016
1. "There's no rule in character-writing that states that a villain can’t be anything aside from a conqueror or a mastermind from any point before they become a villain. In fact, it would be pretty boring if every villain was virtually Ashnard from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance in regards to personality."
I'm not saying Sombra can't.  I wouldn't care if they made him like Christopher-fucking-Lee—actually, that'd be awesome! Anyway, what you said doesn't give them an excuse to portray a fierce conqueror who knew dark magic as a total dickhead.  Sombra had a choice between turning evil because the voice of someone he never even knew told him to, or letting the only real friends he had help him.  If he was smart enough to know how to hold an empire, then he was smart enough to know he could have let Hope and Amoré help him.  But he willingly turned against them.  If the writers are going to make a tragic backstory for Sombra, the least they could have done was get the tragic aspect right.  But they failed at that as well, and that's why the comic deserves the asshole I enjoy tearing it.

2. "What you are telling me is that you don't like that Sombra was established to have gone from nobody to nightmare, or that he's actually given a backstory and reasons for his powers following the release of FIENDship is Magic #1. Just because you don't like something, that doesn't mean that it's bad."
Ah, yes, the strawman.  Most pathetic argument for any human being to make, and quite typical of your kind.  You're deeming my points on Sombra subjective, and using it to defend lazy writing, when they were objective, which is fact, and fact trumps opinion.  Smooth move, fanboy.

3. Wrap your mind around this: the comics showed that NMM's banishment didn't separate the Regal Sisters as far from each other as the show let on; they have an interdimensional mirror, which was never mentioned in the TV series and for some reason none of the writers bothered capitalizing on; among other implications against the comics being canon.  So don't sit there and tell me IDW is working with DHX to maintain continuity, because that's a load of crap!

@LittleAl016
1. _"There's no rule in character-writing that states that a villain can’t be anything aside from a conqueror or a mastermind from any point before they become a villain. In fact, it would be pretty boring if every villain was virtually Ashnard from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance in regards to personality."_
I'm not saying Sombra can't.  I wouldn't care if they made him like Christopher-fucking-Lee—actually, that'd be awesome! Anyway, what you said doesn't give them an excuse to portray a fierce conqueror who knew dark magic as a total dickhead.  Sombra had a choice between turning evil because the voice of someone he never even knew told him to, or letting the only real friends he had help him.  If he was smart enough to know how to hold an empire, then he was smart enough to know he could have let Hope and Amoré help him.  But he willingly turned against them.  If the writers are going to make a tragic backstory for Sombra, the least they could have done was get the tragic aspect right.  But they failed at that as well, and that's why the comic deserves the asshole I enjoy tearing it.

2. _"What you are telling me is that you don't like that Sombra was established to have gone from nobody to nightmare, or that he's actually given a backstory and reasons for his powers following the release of FIENDship is Magic #1. Just because you don't like something, that doesn't mean that it's bad."_
Ah, yes, the strawman.  Most pathetic argument for any human being to make, and quite typical of your kind.  You're deeming my points on Sombra subjective, and using it to defend lazy writing, when they were _objective,_ which is fact, and fact trumps opinion.  Smooth move, fanboy.

3. Wrap your mind around this: the comics showed that NMM's banishment didn't separate the Regal Sisters as far from each other as the show let on; they have an interdimensional mirror, which was never mentioned in the TV series and for some reason none of the writers bothered capitalizing on; among other implications against the comics being canon.  So don't sit there and tell me IDW is working with DHX to maintain continuity, because that's a load of crap!

+Tyrone Bryant<br>I'll ask again, how is Sombra's backstory is an inconsistency? That's the one thing you're literally not telling me. There's no rule in character-writing that states that a villain can’t be anything aside from a conqueror or a mastermind from any point before they become a villain. In fact, it would be pretty boring if every villain was virtually Ashnard from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance in regards to personality. What you are telling me is that you don't like that Sombra was established to have gone from nobody to nightmare, or that he's actually given a backstory and reasons for his powers following the release of FIENDship is Magic #1. Just because you don't like something, that doesn't mean that it's bad. And I highly doubt the first issue of FIENDship is Magic would look like what it does right now if its story really did contradict with anything that was established about Sombra beforehand. Especially since the showrunners at Media DHX and the comic writers at IDW work with each other to ensure continuity  is maintained. Anyone who is telling themselves otherwise is only fooling themselves.

+Tyrone Bryant
I'll ask again, how is Sombra's backstory is an inconsistency? That's the one thing you're literally not telling me. There's no rule in character-writing that states that a villain can’t be anything aside from a conqueror or a mastermind from any point before they become a villain. In fact, it would be pretty boring if every villain was virtually Ashnard from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance in regards to personality. What you are telling me is that you don't like that Sombra was established to have gone from nobody to nightmare, or that he's actually given a backstory and reasons for his powers following the release of FIENDship is Magic #1. Just because you don't like something, that doesn't mean that it's bad. And I highly doubt the first issue of FIENDship is Magic would look like what it does right now if its story really did contradict with anything that was established about Sombra beforehand. Especially since the showrunners at Media DHX and the comic writers at IDW work with each other to ensure continuity  is maintained. Anyone who is telling themselves otherwise is only fooling themselves.

@LittleAl016
"Not every villain is inherently evil from the get-go. So of course a villain won't seem as insidious, ambitious, or ruthless, in events preceding their first appearance."
Look, you can suck up to the writers all you want.  I don't care what those two hacks say, inconsistency is still inconsistency.  You may as well tell me Warner Bros. produced The Looney Tunes Show, and see if it afffects my view of the characters.  Sombra was a conqueror and a mastermind as a character; as a concept, he was set up to represent darkness and the fear thereof.  The instant King Sombra being a raging dick-bastard who rejected help when offered it becomes fact, is when he loses all chances of having the desired effect.  Say what you will about him being a non-presence in the S3 premiere, but what little imagination McCarthy invested when handling him is better than a pathetic attempt to make me feel sorry for a villain who practically never did anything.

@LittleAl016
_"Not every villain is inherently evil from the get-go. So of course a villain won't seem as insidious, ambitious, or ruthless, in events preceding their first appearance."_
Look, you can suck up to the writers all you want.  I don't care what those two hacks say, inconsistency is still inconsistency.  You may as well tell me Warner Bros. produced _The Looney Tunes Show,_ and see if it afffects my view of the characters.  Sombra was a conqueror and a mastermind as a character; as a concept, he was set up to represent darkness and the fear thereof.  The instant King Sombra being a raging dick-bastard who rejected help when offered it becomes fact, is when he loses all chances of having the desired effect.  Say what you will about him being a non-presence in the S3 premiere, but what little imagination McCarthy invested when handling him is better than a pathetic attempt to make me feel sorry for a villain who practically never did anything.

+Tyrone Bryant
In all honesty, I fail to see how Fiendship is Magic #1 goes completely against Sombra as a character and concept. Not every villain is inherently evil from the get-go. So of course a villain won't seem as insidious, ambitious, or ruthless, in events preceding their first appearance. Not to mention, Sombra was criticized by many fans for being so flat in comparison to other villains. Particularly in his characterization and his presence, despite hints of something deeper. His lack of presence and characterization isn't helped by him having very little dialogue in the two-parter Season 3 premiere, or having any meaningful interaction with any characters. Seeming more like a malevolent force instead of a character in his own right. Soon after Fiendship is Magic #1 hit the shelves, many fans warmed up to Sombra.

I also don't know where people get the idea that the comics aren't canon in the first place. You say that there are implications that they aren't. Yet through all of my digging, I have found nothing major that the comics have the outright contradicts the show. Not to mention, both Andy Price and Jim Miller have said that the comics are indeed canon unless Hasbro themselves say otherwise. And last I checked, no one from Hasbro has ever said the comics aren't canon.

@LittleAl016
As much as I like the comics' idea of why Princess Luna's aesthetics changed from a light blue mane to one being the starlit night, added lore is not automatically canon.  Moreover, though I have no evidence against the comics being canon, there are certainly several implications they aren't.
This problem particularly concerns characters.  King Sombra's backstory, which you just mentioned to, is a perfect example.  Fiendship issue 1 goes against everything King Sombra always was as both a character and a concept.  Jeremy Whitley apparently failed to realize that Sombra already had a character: ambitious, ruthless, and insidious.  Furthermore, people with the idea that Sombra was an adorable colt with a dark destiny he initially feared but then willingly followed either didn't watch the S3 premiere, or did but didn't look close enough at Sombra to catch the attributive traits that were actually there.
I can honestly wager that character problems and bastardized elements like this are why most people don't even care for the comics.

@LittleAl016
As much as I like the comics' idea of why Princess Luna's aesthetics changed from a light blue mane to one being the starlit night, added lore is not automatically canon.  Moreover, though I have no evidence against the comics being canon, there are certainly several _implications_ they aren't.
This problem particularly concerns characters.  King Sombra's backstory, which you just mentioned to, is a perfect example.  _Fiendship issue 1_ goes against _everything_ King Sombra always was as both a character _and_ a concept.  Jeremy Whitley apparently failed to realize that Sombra already had a character: ambitious, ruthless, and insidious.  Furthermore, people with the idea that Sombra was an adorable colt with a dark destiny he initially feared but then willingly followed either didn't watch the S3 premiere, or did but didn't look close enough at Sombra to catch the attributive traits that were actually there.
I can honestly wager that character problems and bastardized elements like this are why most people don't even care for the comics.

+Prince Thunderflare<br>I wouldn't say that the comics have gotten "iffy". I would say they're just as valid as the chapter books. Considering the fact that they were the first to expand on Luna's personality post Nightmare Night, and have given King Sombra of all ponies a backstory. And I remember reading somewhere that Meghan McCarthy (or at least someone on the show staff) has told someone who asked about Cadence's heritage to read the first chapter book released. Adding to that, Maud Pie was mentioned in the 2nd chapter book (albeit not by name). So it would be a safe bet that at least the show staff considers the chapter books to be canon. And I wouldn't be too surprised if they held the same view with the comics. What most likely wouldn't be canon is at least some of the details described in them. Which would be a phenomenon known as "Broad Strokes". (Possibly one of the biggest exapmles I can think of regarding "broad strokes" would be the Fiendship is Magic comics centered around The Dazzlings. It happened, but the events seen in it are most likely an inaccurate account given how The Dazzlings and Star Swirl are depicted in it.)

+Prince Thunderflare
I wouldn't say that the comics have gotten "iffy". I would say they're just as valid as the chapter books. Considering the fact that they were the first to expand on Luna's personality post Nightmare Night, and have given King Sombra of all ponies a backstory. And I remember reading somewhere that Meghan McCarthy (or at least someone on the show staff) has told someone who asked about Cadence's heritage to read the first chapter book released. Adding to that, Maud Pie was mentioned in the 2nd chapter book (albeit not by name). So it would be a safe bet that at least the show staff considers the chapter books to be canon. And I wouldn't be too surprised if they held the same view with the comics. What most likely wouldn't be canon is at least some of the details described in them. Which would be a phenomenon known as "Broad Strokes". (Possibly one of the biggest exapmles I can think of regarding "broad strokes" would be the Fiendship is Magic comics centered around The Dazzlings. It happened, but the events seen in it are most likely an inaccurate account given how The Dazzlings and Star Swirl are depicted in it.)

@Prince Thunderflare First of all, please stop misspelling canon.  It has 1 "n".  Second, a self-proclaimed "brony analysis extraordinaire" made a false assumption about me, and I was disproving it.  And yet, maybe I do care about canon, and it's what certain so-called "analysts" (not including this video's maker... yet) say that should be ignored.  Whatever it is I'm trying to say, I know that I have no love for people who use the word canon to bullet-proof their statements.  It's the same reason I hate people who like to pull the opinion card.

@Tyrone Bryant Well, if you don't care about cannon, why are you discussing it?

@Prince Thunderflare
Pinkie Pie was flanderized in Vanilli, when she kept degrading Fluttershy.  Most Wanted is a bastardization to the established lore of cutie marks.  And since we're bringing Crystal Heart Spell to the table, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Trixie hold Twilight's triumph in Magic Duel against Twi herself in the chapter book in question? If so, then with CHS is canon I sincerely hope you're familiar with the term "plot hole."

Look, all I'm trying to say is that canon or not, these are still writing problems.  Even if it is canon, a plot hole is still a plot hole, and inconsistency is still inconsistency.  Arguing who the writer is or whether it's canon or not is, again, entirely pointless.

The only thing I'm wondering, and I doubt any analysis can answer, is whether the alicorns mentioned to in The Journal of the Two Sisters are as ethereal, wise, powerful and  mysterious as alicorns used to be seen, or if as the TV show and chapter books portray them, mere unicorn, pegasus or earth ponies playing royal figure.  We might never know, but I just needed to throw that out there.

@Prince Thunderflare
Pinkie Pie was _flanderized_ in _Vanilli,_ when she kept degrading Fluttershy.  _Most Wanted_ is a bastardization to the established lore of cutie marks.  And since we're bringing _Crystal Heart Spell_ to the table, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Trixie hold Twilight's triumph in _Magic Duel_ against Twi herself in the chapter book in question? If so, then with CHS is canon I sincerely hope you're familiar with the term "plot hole."

Look, all I'm trying to say is that canon or not, these are still writing problems.  Even if it is canon, a plot hole is still a plot hole, and inconsistency is still inconsistency.  Arguing who the writer is or whether it's canon or not is, again, entirely pointless.

The only thing _I'm_ wondering, and I doubt any analysis can answer, is whether the alicorns mentioned to in _The Journal of the Two Sisters_ are as ethereal, wise, powerful and  mysterious as alicorns used to be seen, or if as the TV show and chapter books portray them, mere unicorn, pegasus or earth ponies playing royal figure.  We might never know, but I just needed to throw that out there.

@Tyrone Bryant So you can disregard information as cannon for no reason?  If you think something isn't cannon, you must give a reason beyond "I don't like it".  I hate hate HATE The Crystal Heart Spell, but I'd never argue it isn't cannon, because that would be childish of me.

And you say that in spite of how terribly Pinkie Pie was portrayed in Filli Vanilli. Dave Polsky is also an official writer, and look at Appleloosa's Most Wanted. At this point, "writer" and "canon" (which is spelled with 1 "n", not 2 btw) grow moot as arguments.

And you say that in spite of how terribly Pinkie Pie was portrayed in _Filli Vanilli._ Dave Polsky is also an official writer, and look at _Appleloosa's Most Wanted._ At this point, "writer" and "canon" (which is spelled with 1 "n", not 2 btw) grow moot as arguments.


That was so funny when they played the intro again🤣


firstly, Queen Galaxia and King Comos have four children, Queen/Princess Ingrid (oldest), Princess Celestia (middle), Princess Luna (middle), and Prince Orion (youngest).

Cadence is a direct decedent of Prince Orion meaning she is related to Princess Celestia and Luna, another fact is that Princess Twilight Sparkle is sister in laws with Cadence so every princess is technically related to each other.

Ingrid turned into the Snow Queen after she discovered that her sister Celestia, shared the same love interest. Not only that the pony they both liked  chose Celestia over Ingrid. Ingrid then hated her sister Celestia, along with Luna (because she sides with Celestia). During this time Orion was to young to remember all of this. Anyways Ingrid was taken away or something.

Now let's talk more about Queen Galaxia and King Comos. Their fathers both disliked each other, but Queen Galaxia and King Comos then fell in love and had four children.

Prince Orion is a unicorn and Ingrid is a alicorn. their parents were both originally unicorns but then transformed into alicorns.

No not all of them are related
Twilight is only related to her because her brother got married to her so I made her sisters-in-law with her
not all of them are related


What I want to know is why Celestia's and Luna's hair changed color <b>and</b> became flowy.

What I want to know is why Celestia's and Luna's hair changed color *and* became flowy.


Anyone gonna question how a thousand years before luna got banished to the moon, she looked the same as we see now. But when she gets freed from the moon, she looks young- atleast until the next episode she comes in (for some reason she doesnt look young there-) or am i missing something?


Okay I agree on one thing: princess Celestia and Luna are a different type of pony. Here's my theory. Princess Celestia and lLuna were born in a different land to equestria, and when they raised the sun and moon they got their wings and cutie marks, but maybe the hair comes from doing something unforgettable or unforgivable, such as Celestia sending Nightmare Moon to the moon and Luna for becoming Nightmare Moon. Hey, I thought it might be a possibility, but its just a theory. :D

Cool theory! I would have never been able too think of that!


You know....maybe there is a slicing city. Luna had said they looked forward to spending time at silver shores (or was it shoals?) which isn't  on the map.


Also, Tuvayalt's cute sign is: The big star is shown by Tuvayalt and the other small stars are shown by their friends. , Pop is pink, but when he was a foal, he only had pink wings, but I think when he took charge of the Cadence Crystal Empire, his wings became two-colored.


this just came up on my recommendation, but i believe

- star swirld (ithinkhisname) made luna&celestia who they are today.
- no alicorns before, reason why flurry heart was a shock.
- there was very little magic? friendship between the different ponies was less of a link, UNTIL celestia and luna took over.
- the magic from the 3 tribes gave the princess' power, reason how they turned into alicorns (doing something great).


Yes there's a alicorn already born with wings its baby flurry heart


I actually have a headcannon that there was an alicorn kingdom when the Royal Sisters were young, but their king became power-hungry and decided to enslave all other races. This sparked an Alicorn Civil War that was so destructive that the good alicorns were forced to do to themselves what Sombra did to the Crystal Empire. They banished themselves and their homeland with a time spell. Hoping that by the time it wore off their rightful rulers, Celestia and Luna, would have become  powerful enough to stop the mad King.<br>Let me know what y'all think if this idea! :D

I actually have a headcannon that there was an alicorn kingdom when the Royal Sisters were young, but their king became power-hungry and decided to enslave all other races. This sparked an Alicorn Civil War that was so destructive that the good alicorns were forced to do to themselves what Sombra did to the Crystal Empire. They banished themselves and their homeland with a time spell. Hoping that by the time it wore off their rightful rulers, Celestia and Luna, would have become  powerful enough to stop the mad King.
Let me know what y'all think if this idea! :D


Ik this is a old vid but- alicorns are shown to have great power but alicorns can easily have magic taken away just look at when they have up there powers they still remained alicorns so having greater magic can’t be just it it must have something to do with a greater force


I think the reason they became alicorns is that each princess had displayed something worthy of being a princess.


Theres only two naturally born alicorns that we know of.

Flurry heart: am i a joke to you?

Theres only two naturally born alicorns that we know of.

Flurry heart: *am i a joke to you?*


Were they born alricorns?

Friendssszzzzzzz

They were born alicorn Friends. So notion is wrong.


For those of whom this may concern THIS WAS MADE BEFORE FLURRY HEART! thankyou!

Well still, it changes the video a lot because this guys talking about his theories and now they’re proven wrong.

@Cassi's drawing and game play Channel. she cuteeee

@• aesthetically pleasing • me too ..I was like what about flurry heart???

No buddy comment this what about Flurry heart!!,!,

Thanks because I got really angry that he didn’t say Flurry Heart.

Actually stallions can also be a alicorn just look at celestia's and Luna's DAD!

Goth! sans ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ yeah honestly everyone was saying that Flurry Heart is an alicorn too but can't you guys make out that it was made BEFORE Flurry Heart was there??

Ya like I kept on saying ummmmm flurry heart flurry heart..... flurr y heart!!!!!

Goth! sans ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ lol I just made a comment about Flurry and then I saw this....;-; <b>deletes comment</b>

Goth! sans ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ lol I just made a comment about Flurry and then I saw this....;-; *deletes comment*

But still now when she is born they can make part 2 of this video which includes flurry heart


For people who don t see the episode about celestia birthday.

Clestia was an unicorn who get her wings by realizing she was able to raise the sun by herself. She was the only one who can do this. But before they was 5 unicorn to raise the sun.

Then we can think that it was same with luna but with the mon?


I think that the alicorn sisters still age in looks just because you are immortal does not mean looks dont chang over time so i think they cast some spell to make them still look young.


Well based what we know about the two sisters who are Alicorns, a.k.a. Celestia and Luna. Celestia being the Princess of the day and Luna being the Princess of the night. Luna became Nightmare Moon a thousand years ago in My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Well we all know how Princess Luna was freed from being Nightmare Moon. Both Princesses Celestia and Luna both ruled Equestria. Not much is known about their parents in the series. We only know about them, and Discord. Then there is Twilight Sparkle Celestia's personal student well we all know she became the Princess of Friendship at the end of the 4th season. Let's not forget Cadance who is the Princess of Love and ruler of the Crystal Empire along her husband who was the former captain of royal guard back in Canterlot Shining Armor. Who is also a unicorn Prince being married to Cadance. Cadance is also Twilight's sister-in-law. Then there is Flurry Heart who is the first born Alicorn. Princesses Celestia and Luna maybe the first born Alicorns of Equestria their parents whoever they are erased their memories and mysteriously disappeared. Only leaving Celestia and Luna still being Princesses and raised by Starswirl The Bearded. Another good  question should be who were Cadance's parents. Starlight should been made into an Alicorn as well at the end of the 6th season. What would Starlight be the Princess of... Celestia Princess of the Day, Luna Princess of the Night, Cadance Princess of Love, and Twilight Sparkle the Princess of Friendship. Flurry Heart well no telling what she would be the Princess of Light maybe? Back to Starlight Glimmer Princess of Equality? Like I said nothing else is much known. Hope this helped a bit more.


Funny how after the Birth of Flurry Heart

They mentioned

"Alicorns have never been born till now"

 and

" It's beyond even our understanding."

Actually it’s<br>“ The birth of an Alicorn has never been seen before”

Actually it’s
“ The birth of an Alicorn has never been seen before”


I like how tons of people are screaming about Celestia and Luna being artificial Alicorns since the Flurry Heart episode, but not taking in mind this was posted over a year ago. Come at me raging four year olds.

IK right! I've disliked every comment mentioning flurry

@fow birdfish check the first replies, its intentional.

Meme Lord YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS YES YES YES YES YES YES I LOVE YOUR COMMENT YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Kitty Meows so she's a Pokemon fan what's your point were not all the same we like different stuff.😈

but that wasnt expected because Shining Armer was a unicorn and cadense was a alicorn but that dosent mean two alicorns can have alicorns.

Leefeon gaming I think you spelled leafeon wrong :/

Leefeon gaming I'm actually not 4 years old so ha ha and if you don't like it then get out of the comments

+Aidan Jones it's a profile it doesn't matter.

+Aidan Jones I spelled it differently on purpose

You spelled leafeon wrong in your name 😏


I wonder if Pegasus and earth ponies can become alicorns too 🤔 please let me know🤩


To be fair Celestia and Luna did say that Flurry being born an Alicorn was something 'Equestria' had never seen. So if they were born Alicorns, that line would be under question. Plus, Twi is the only one we know for certain was given wings. And I don't even hold the comics as canon because according to The Journal Of The 2 Sisters Celestia found the Tree Of Harmony, asked Starswirl about it and built their castle there.

The show S7? Starswirl planted the seed that grew into that tree, oh, and the old castle WAS THEIR BLOODY HOME BEFORE THEY CREATED SAID SEED! CANON.BE.DEAD is Gen4 in a nutshell. XD They have so many sources of lore that are not taken into account when they are written. So 'what's canon' is like time travel for this show.

However, I will accept that Celestia and Luna born as Alicorns are canon mostly because, let's be honest, if they ascended into Alicorns, wouldn't Twilight Sparkle, who held Celestia above Starlswirl in how much of a fan/idol had known about it? Granted we never saw her bring it up, but, wouldn't she when she ascended?

No, she was in as much awe as her friends. Plus...............Cadance was canon by S3's final. And she wasn't born as a Alicorn and yet no word from Twi about that in any instance of her or Flurry's wings.  PLUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS the line "created new magic" always felt to me as a lame excuse.

Twi FIXED an existing spell, a spell created by Starswirl among many other spells and do we see him with wings? Something else is at play here about who gets wings/horn, and if we ever get a new Alicorn in Gen5, maybe we'll se.........Starswirl not once noticed Twi was an Alicorn in his entire existence once he was revealed.

Is that................a plot point? Had he seen Celestia and Luna ascend? No, even if he had he would've at least stared at Twi's wings. Um, Gen5 writers. Could you, pretty please, keep better track of your lore to avoid the holy grail of plotholes that was Gen4's lore?

One more thing. I have a friend who made the theory with a lot of effort about Chrysalis being Cadance's mom, the queen of the Crystal Empire. Her points I can recall off the top of my head were, when she first appeared her voice had a distorted effect to it, plus she's been shown more than once flying very close at ground level.

And the Chrysalis already having a corrupted form is something to think about. They likely were all born from her after her own corruption. Is she had been redeemed, and she formed a new bug body, but what if she didn't.....could she be a Alicorn? She IS Celestia's height, and we never saw an evil Alic....Nightmate Moon and Day Breaker. Evil Alicorns be canon!


Alicorns more like all-a-corns because they have magic from ALL thee tribes!!


Well... I've been searching for hours to hours for Knowing why is Twighlight an Alicorn yes I know she's the princess of friendship, But why do they choose her as a Princess Well now I know why she was the first student who Made a dragon and she Has so many friends so they choose her as a Princess?

She completed one of star swirls spells <br>and that shows she is very powerful so they made her a alicorn

She completed one of star swirls spells
and that shows she is very powerful so they made her a alicorn


I’m watching this again after the show finished.I just want to say that the floating hair theory is proved to be wrong cus in the final episode,Twilight has floating hair. So in my personal theory,I think after a pony officially becomes an alicorn they’ll develop the floating hair along with their body size as time goes by :>

@strxwberri_cookii idk, from my perspective, I think she isn't old enough. Remember when luna once has short light blue lavender kinda hair? I'm assuming that she's as old as cadence back then

@Ivy Baltero I think you are right now but what about Cadence.Cadence still does not have floating hair and she is older then twilight so I am still a little confused

@strxwberri_cookii I think the floating hair is associated with magic. And it depends on the user if they want their hair to float. But then again, I think the user must reach a certain amount of magic and reach a certain age to acquire this hair floating thingy

you are wrong because  if you finished the full entire series then you know that Mistane the one of the pillars and the element of beauty/generosity she has flowing hair like Celestia and Luna and now Twilight


In season 3 episode 1, Princess Celestia said this "The birth of an alicorn is something Equestia has never seen before." That proves that Princess Celestia and Princess Luna weren't born as alicorns. But... they still were able to raise the sun and moon. So, they were born as unicorns.


luna nad celestia raised the sun and moon when unicorns and been thought alicorn magic as a unicorn the magic is extra powerful more powerful then a whole bunch of unicorns gather up to do the night and day cycle, so they turned to alicorns ass well as get there cutie mark


"there are 4 unicorns"<br>flurry heart and powered cozy glow just existing:👁👄👁

"there are 4 unicorns"
flurry heart and powered cozy glow just existing:👁👄👁

—  J E L Ł Ø.♡


The big question is where are Celestia and Luna’s parents?
Maybe outside Equestria. If they were, where?
Or maybe banished? But by who?
Wait a minute...
STARSWIRL


I kind of prefer to see Celestia and Luna as having earned alicorn status, then perhaps having figured out how and taking control of it (or at least being able to take credit)

Wouldn't it be funny if twilight had become an Alicorn not through Celestia granting it, but through just being awesome and fate kicking in? And Celestia just showed up to take credit, while in reality she was freaking out because this fucks up everything?


There is also Flurry Heart. She is 100% a natural Alicorn. They showed her when she was born. She had Fully grown wings and her horn maybe even contains as much magic as Twighlight.


"or a Pegasus with a horn!"<br>Or a earth pony with wings and a horn!

"or a Pegasus with a horn!"
Or a earth pony with wings and a horn!


I think the main 6 became alicorns and have what it takes but they need to know a lot


If you remember Sawtooth being called The Brony Notion you deserve a veterinarian’s discount


Actually Celestia’s hair was light pink but then when Celestial used the elements of harmony on Nightmare moon her hair turned green, blue, pink, and purple

how? we saw her hair still being different coloured

She had her normal multicoloured hair in the flash back of her before she used the elements but at some stage in her life she had pink hair

@periwinkle My headcanon is that the memories mixed with the flashback, Twilight has most/only seen present Celestia and present Luna meaning the memories mixed.

@Ruby I agree but the Sun is still mines right?but I left and give it to twillight:(BUT WHERE DID I GO

@Ruby I don't but the surgery make my eye purple...

@Ruby it was weird too it cast a lot of pain where wings grow

@Ruby I have a secret too tell tell you<br>I watched how to became a shape shifter so I follow it I through it won't work but it worked I was surprised I tried transforming back and I did I was outside in my backyard I was like a statue

@Ruby I have a secret too tell tell you
I watched how to became a shape shifter so I follow it I through it won't work but it worked I was surprised I tried transforming back and I did I was outside in my backyard I was like a statue

@Ruby Um where is celestia then IT'S MY JOB I M THE LIGHT

Michael Larson she does it just doesn't get showed as much as the green and blue

I don't think so cuz she did not have pink hair before sending luna to the moon and she did not have pink hair when they used the Elements of Harmony on Discord now she may have had pink hair when she was little

Azaria Sketch you mean when twilight saw celestia and lunas flashback with discord?

Small & Tiny Celestia used to have pink hair, 1000 years later (NM’s return) Celestia had a mix of hair colors.

Cupcakesgurl 2567 True, some fan comics believe that Celestia had pink hair when she was first born, in Episode one season 1, the story book Twilight had read Celestia had PINK hair.

Cupcakesgurl 2567 no she did not get her hair colors because of sending luna to the moon. That’s not canon anywhere.

Nope. In a flashback (cant remember the name) celestia had pink, green, blue, and purple hair. It's most likely power driven, like it's celestia's natural magic


You can see in the flash back of twilights you can see cadences wings they look like normal Pegasus wings and her horn super small. This shows that she was a Pegasus because when twilight turned into one her wings were more bigger then cadences. And twilights horn had grown pointer then other unicorns. Hehehe just pointing this out.


Celestia and Luna probably come from the sun and the moon as its avatars and Star Swirl raised them as he is their mentor.


Speaking of errors:

"How dare you not tell my in person that you were getting married!"

-Twilight Sparkle

This was either a mistake in the script or a mistake the voice actor made


PEOPLE
WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND!

WE NEED THE BEST MY LITTLE PONY BACK IN 2023!!


Flurry Heart is now the only natural born alicorn, thanks to Flurry Heart

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MP yes but when they first used their magic to raise the moon and sun there wasn’t an equestria, until that moment when a group of ponies found a big land and called it equestria. In that point, Celestia and Luna were already alicorns.

「Moonlight Plays roblox」  well no, actually , I belive that cadence got wings when she was crowned , and when she got her cutie mark so flurry heart was born with it cause her thing , like all princesses moon sun love flurry heart is the princes or family

@MP <br>They didn't say before they said in Equestria and they were born before Equestria

@MP
They didn't say before they said in Equestria and they were born before Equestria

Pastel Comet they were Lauren Faust said it and it’s in the video

Pastel Comet They said theirselves in the episode that Flurry Heart was introduced in that there has never been a natural born Alicorn before

wait, how do we know Luna and Celestia weren't born alicorns?

I think that’s a retcon that a majority of the fandom has elected to ignore


Wait a second...Luna and Celestia fought with Discord  1000 years ago right?And after that Luna turned into NightmareMoon and you know the rest...But when Twilight and her friends used the elements to bring Luna back she looked waaaay younger than she should...why 1000 years ago she had floating hair (and as you know it takes some time for it to start floating for an alicorn...about the age)and  "in the present" she hasn't till the Nightmare Night episode?

I think because Luna lost some power and maybe then after it recovers ( her strength) her mane started to flow again , cause Celestia banished Luna to the moon ( and I remember in the episodes of Shadow Play Star Swirl wanted to banished the Pony of Shadow to Limbo and Twilight sad that banishment cause so much of magic , so maybe Luna’s banishment has a impact on her ….. You know what I don’t know what I’m talking about ….


When I heard word Alicorn I remember one word

S A L V A T I O N

<<The death of a million is a necessity!>>


0:39
Sawtooth :  Celestia and Luna are Naturally born Alicorns
Flurry heart : I’ma End this Man’s whole Career

0:39
Sawtooth :  Celestia and Luna are Naturally born Alicorns
Flurry heart : *I’ma End this Man’s whole Career*


actually Cadence was a unicorn not a Pegasus if you look in season 2 "A Canterlot Wedding" you see a scene where in the past when Cadence was Twilight's foalsitter she was a unicorn


Can earth ponies even become alicorns?
Shure, they got their own magic but there is no solid evidence they can.

NOTE
this comment is very old. As in just after Flurryheart became a thing old. I agree that earth ponies can (and will) become alicorns not only because of now-canon evidence but because of the glorious POTENTIAL that holds story-wise. don't be mean when correcting someone, and if there's already 25 replies its safe to assume someone else has said it already.

Can earth ponies even become alicorns?
Shure, they got their own magic but there is no solid evidence they can.

*NOTE*
this comment is very old. As in just after Flurryheart became a thing old. I agree that earth ponies can (and will) become alicorns not only because of now-canon evidence but because of the glorious POTENTIAL that holds story-wise. don't be mean when correcting someone, and if there's already 25 replies its safe to assume someone else has said it already.

@SoDecay yeah, this is a pretty old comment of mine lol

@《𝕒𝕖𝕣𝕥𝕙𝕪》 thats punctuation and technically grammar but i doubt they care

Yes, earth ponies can be alicorn's. The new movie legit proved it by cannon.

Yes, as seen in the newest film, MLP A New Generation

I think so. There’s no reason that they wouldn’t be able to become alicorns.

@《𝕒𝕖𝕣𝕥𝕙𝕪》 who cares if I spelled right at least I got a point

@i love you You're the person correcting somebody, and then you can't spell "you're" right.

ye, in flurry heart's heartfelt scrapbook pinkie said that alicorns were able to use magic, fly and are tied to the earth. They are a different kind of or variant of ponies in my opinion; like crystal ponies. This is just a theory tho!!

Well there's also no solid evidence they can't.

I mean Twilight was in the original design an earth pony so lets just say that its possible

Sure* Grammerly helps you spell all your good and bad mistakes


Actually Luna and Celestia was both born unicorns I'm from the future and before turning an alicorn you should be a unicorn and have powerful mahic

How do you explain that Cadance became an alicorn and she was a Pegasus?


Tirek not only had the magic of all three tribes he had the chaos magic of discord


If you didn't know, when
celestia used the first, time
the element of harmony, befor
then she had i think a different
hair colour, when she used the elements of harmony her hair turned, blue, green, yellow, pink, purple. Couse almost those, colours are off the best friends. Flutershy, pinky pie, Twigh light, rarity, rainbow dash and applejake. (Am so sorry if i am wrong.)


But they said that they have never seen another natural alicorn like Flurryheart before! So Celestia and Luna can't be naturally born alicorns.


I believe that there are no natrully born alicorns except for flurry heart,I think that princess celestia and Lina were unicorns who were chosen by star swirl to raise the sun moon and stars. Along with becoming royalty, it is strange how the two princesses resemble the sun and moon even though they they might not be born alicorns😮


There is even Flurry Heart as a natural born alicorn Sawtooth


Y cuáles saldría los subtítulos de My Little Pony la película en 2021???


Celestial and Luna became alicorns for there day and night abilities so them being alicorns at birth is debunked they were also bolth unicorns and earned there wings or else how could they raise the moon and sun


I like to think that Luna and Celestia are natural alicorns. I say this because, look at Luna and celastias hair. it's wavy, shiny, and magic. while twilight and candance don't have that kind if hair.

+The Neophyte Well maybe, it isn't canon.

+The Neophyte Well maybe, it isn't canon.

+Crystal stars That's because Nightmare Moon was defeated.

+M Wright Maybe it's just that they aren't magical as Luna and Celestia. :)

@Dawn Shimmer there is quite literally NO DIFFERENCE between a unicorn who gains wings (and EP strength), a Pegasus that gains a horn (and EP strength), and a EP that gains both a horn and wings. THEY ARE ALL LABELLED UNDER ALICORN!!!

@Sweet Erin it makes it so much simpler if you use the reply button. now we have to ask "what doesn't make sense?"

@Vanilla Icing you've been watching too much a lullaby for a princess

Psÿçhøtïç Åmbítìøñ (Excellency at Wørst)

Celestia actually god the hair from banishing Luna.

... I always find it strange when comments repeat the same argument chains again and again...

+Gabby Aceron season 3 and the theory is that the magic was drained from Luna on S1E2 and as nightmare moon,her hair was like celestia's.

I don't think it has to do much with their mane. As if you watched the show beginning to end, Luna's mane wasn't all shiny and wavy as Celestia's. Until later on in the show her mane has become like Celestia's. "But why isn't Cadence or Twilight's mane  like theirsss???" You may ask. It may be because they weren't old enough or (which I think is what caused it) their magic isn't as strong as the two sisters. Celestia and Luna have been around much longer and have a more strong and powerful magic. Cadence was only transformed for as long as when Twilight was a filly. Twilight only became an alicorn at the end of Season 4. Their magic can only contain so much.

So their mane's aren't much of a big clue why they were naturally born alicorns.

+Abby the night Guard cat I agree because see there horns they are longer than a normal horn u see any oh her pony born with that horn or Luna's wings if she was born with them do u see any other ponies with those wings

I agree but it also includes that twilight and cadence are like magic sisters because love is in freindship so they are family to because shining armor and cadence are married and shining armor is Twilight's brother but I can't get the concepts of how they are family shining armor and twilight are not proved to be family

The creator of MLP said Luna and Celestia were natural born

@Charlie Horton -but earlier in that very finale, she had the power of not one but TWO natural born alicorns in her. plus what was in cadence. and her hair did not flow.

But when twilight took  thier magic her to stop terek she got magic in her  hair  maybe created alicorns don't possess the same strength of magic as born alicorns  and that created alicorns are only a fraction of a born alicorns magical strength and power  ( so stop being damn useless Celestia you here me )

I hate it when people call it the element of magic. that isn't its name.

+Chica Chu yes that's true just watch Lullaby for A Princess

+M Wright I don't know where luna got her wavy hair from, but..

Celestia used the element of magic ( before the main 6 ) and used it to banish luna [[aka nightmare moon]]. Before that, she was Tia. Celestia earned her wavy hair when she banished her. How so? The element of magic was so powerful causing something to change about her. Her hair changed from pink and normal to a tri - colored pony with wavy hair. If this makes no sense, watch the lullaby for a princess animation :3

Don't forget the long legs. Kinda creeps me, but yeah xD (Actually, ppl got shocked in the movie because both Celestia and Luna had this feature)

-unless twilight keeps getting hers cut.

-unless twilight keeps getting hers cut.

Actually, when Cadance and Twilight get older their mane will become the same way Luna and Celestia's mane are.

Likely if the world in the show grew on its own, not allowed by the writers.

I think the mane six will all end up being princesses.

But... Will that happen to the normal ponies or will the mane thing will just happen to princesses? Please help me!

+angela nightengale cadence and twilight will

Luna and Tia didn't always  have wavey hair look at luna in season one so Twilight and cadence will get it

Actually they weren't last time I checked.

Actually they weren't last time I checked.

@Dawn Shimmer Have you read the journal of the two sisters???? Cause it says straight up they we're born alicorns😒

+Hale StarPaints Nobody is born an Alicorn or Asicorn(alicorns are unicorns who gain wings and Asicorns are pegasi who gain their horn).

That's because they're older. Luna and Celestia originally had normal mane but when they grew older their mane changed into the wavy mist like hair. When Twilight and Cadance get older, their mane will become wavy and mist like the way Luna and Celestia's mane is.

+M Wright They were born alicorns if you read the journal of the two sisters (luna and celesta's journal) they say they were born alicorns but they were not born royalty but in fact they were asked to become princess cause there were hardly no alicorns and seemed magical but they did hint towards there being more alicorns

@Dawn Shimmer Sorry I have a friend named Candace and my phone auto-corrected.

+Cangel Tibon It's Cadence, not Candace.

+Cangel Tibon It's Cadence, not Candace.

But when weakened and drained of their magic the hair becomes solid and in the extreme (like with Luna) the hair seemingly reverts back to its original form (blue for Luna and pink of Celestia), and when Twilight is powered up here hair does the same if only temporary, the weave hair could just be a result of having so much magic and living for so long, maybe Candace and Twilight simply haven't been around long enough for their manes to premenetly flow like that.

Their hair is just their own unique way, same as any other pony.


2:03 In this image all the main 6 are blank flanks and all the coulering is over saturated


Salvation?<br>Oh wait, wrong type of alicorn.

Salvation?
Oh wait, wrong type of alicorn.


When a alicorn is born there wings are invisible in till they get older

what about flurry heart her wings were visible

I’m guessing you haven’t seen flurry heart yet?

@꧁・Black_Bluebells・꧂ Nah<br>Because then any normal-not related to  a Royal, Pony could be an Alicorn

@꧁・Black_Bluebells・꧂ Nah
Because then any normal-not related to  a Royal, Pony could be an Alicorn

And Cadence was a pegasus

Not a unicorn

And Cadence was a pegasus

Not a unicorn

@Zq1na_b They said one of their relatives or something were unicorn or pegasus

I do not believe your answer because flurry hearts horn and wing were visible

@GamingwithIzo AJ omg flurry could’ve been a pagasis! But it doesn’t explain the full story since the cakes aren’t unicorns or Pegasus and the baby cakes are!

Flurry Heart is a baby pony. Shining armour and princess Cadence are her parents. Cadence is an alicorn and shining armour is a unicorn. When she  was born, she was both born with a horn and visible wings, which was something that had never happened before.

No they aren’t... how do you explain Flurry Heart born with visible wings?


Actually, Cadence was born a Pegasus or Pegasi, and Celestial and Luna had an older sister, Queen Ingrid the queen of the snow but celestial and Luna weren’t born alicorns, they became alicorns


Yep!  Definitely see the allusions to Greek Mythology!
 Besides the very obvious monsters I think there is some of the 'logic' of these myths as well.

So I agree Alicorns would be Gods and ponies demi-gods.... And this really fits now that I ponder it!

That would explain why Rquestria is do...Olympian paradise-like.  It's literally the residence of the Gods?  Or something like that

@*****
Well it's a loose translation~
But i definately love the Mythos to the series

@Starlight Official<br>Ahh Japaneese mythology!  Facinating stuff.

@Starlight Official
Ahh Japaneese mythology!  Facinating stuff.

So what if I told you. That this was considered the celestial plane.

because as we see all evil things in the area have some form of black on them with red glowing aura

thus these are works of "branards loop" or "Orion's Box". further showing on how most villains become good after a while. its because their possessed by said armageddon spirit desperately trying to reach such a place

all of this is inspired by japanese myths


Actually I think your half wrong because in the episode where cadence and shining armor had a baby the princesses kept saying she is the first baby natural alicorn. And also I agree all of them have strong special magic but the crystal heart spell book is definetly a valid source please get back to me when you say this byyyyyye


Maybe one of their parents were a Pegasus and the other was a Unicorn then Celestia and Luna than both inherited the wings and the horn


In my fanfic mlp au where equestria isn't found yet, there is an alicorn civilization. They aren't born alicorns, though. They are all born unicorns, and the queen or king holds a ceremony for a foal that gets their cutie mark, and turns the pony into an alicorn.


2010: Two Alicorns
2013: Three Alicorns
2015: Four Alicorns
2016-Today: Five Alicorns


Although I'm late of like, 4 years (?), I found a theory that at the beginning, the rulers were two original alicorns who were immortal, Queen Galaxia and King Chronos, who are Luna and Celestia's parents.<br>I don't know how true it is and I don't know what happened to them, but I thought of sharing this anyway, hope this helps ^w^

Although I'm late of like, 4 years (?), I found a theory that at the beginning, the rulers were two original alicorns who were immortal, Queen Galaxia and King Chronos, who are Luna and Celestia's parents.
I don't know how true it is and I don't know what happened to them, but I thought of sharing this anyway, hope this helps ^w^

@Nameless Well at first I didn't know neither ahah, I found out about them on a wiki fandom page
Here's the link if you're interested
https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Princesstwilight122001/A_royal_history:legend_of_equestria

King Chronos? I knew Galaxia, but not him.


Flurry heart be like:

I'm gonna end this man's whole career

Flurry heart be like:

*I'm gonna end this man's whole career*

Back when this happened flurry heart didn't happen

this video is 6 years ago furry is not born yet ;-;


“Would that person become royalty?”
Me: *pony
Also me: idk they’d need a coronation and like lots of guests to come


"Are there other alicorns? "

Yes, especially Flurry heart.Flurry heart is an Alicorn but she is a baby.When I watched My little pony Cadance needs to show something about Twilight. Something wrong about Flurry heart.When they open the blanket Twilight and her friends were shocked about Flurry heart.Flurry heart was a alicorn.They were so worried about Flurry heart..

This was before Flurry Heart was even canon.


Alicorns get there cutie mark later than unicorns and ponies <br>Get the book the journal of the two sisters

Alicorns get there cutie mark later than unicorns and ponies
Get the book the journal of the two sisters


Also I have a video idea for you. Could you do 1 on why luna, and celestias hair flows and cadence and twilights hair dont. Thanks baii


You might see her as pegesi but you didn't watch season 2


Before i say what i want i want yall to know that im aware that this video was from 5 years ago so dont attack me

In the last episode of mlp when twilight was talking to luster how her coronation was a disaster, celestia and luna came and they said they were leaving
Luna said “ we hope u visit us in silver shore “
What if they r from silver shore ? And they just earned their wings and not born an alicorn unlike flurry


I know this was from before and I saw the update but flurry heart is naturally born<br>(I watch this channel a lot)

I know this was from before and I saw the update but flurry heart is naturally born
(I watch this channel a lot)


well.. if u see in season 9 one of the last episodes during twilight's coordination Celestia told this. : We know Equestria is in the perfect hooves with you and your friends looking out for it and while we'll always be here if u need us, it's time for us to be on our way... then luna told this: We hope you will come and visit us in silver shoals... Place called silver shoals :oooo

well.. if u see in season 9 one of the last episodes during twilight's coordination Celestia told this. : *We know Equestria is in the perfect hooves with you and your friends looking out for it and while we'll always be here if u need us, it's time for us to be on our way...* then luna told this: *We hope you will come and visit us in silver shoals...* Place called silver shoals :oooo

@Sawtooth Waves Hey, do you think an earth pony can become an Alicorn? If so, would it be different and if so how?

silver shoals is where Dusty Pages live after moving from Canterlot.

@ashish bector Yeah but there could be retired princesses there

we get to see it in an earlier episode and it's just a retirement home :(


I don't think celestia is a born alicon because in season 8 episode 'Horse Play' to raise the sun unicorns used their magic. But celestia was the only pony to raise the sun without losing her magic. I think in that way she became a alicorn princess


I think a pony with a horn but have Pegasus wings instead of alicorn wings isn’t a real alicorn.


I watched this dude for a while and I decided to watch his older videos he was so stupid in the past (no offense 😬) Cause Celstia and Luna were born Unicorns they magically turned into Alicorns after they proved they could raise the sun and moon and also there’s another pony who was born Alicorn the first Born Alicorn Pony to exist as we know of which we all know is Flurry heart ;)

Ah yes because not being able to see into the future = stupid 😐<br>(And no, I really don’t care about your “no offense”)

Ah yes because not being able to see into the future = stupid 😐
(And no, I really don’t care about your “no offense”)

@Samuel Chouinard But it’s ok cause I said “no offense” 😩👌🏻

He wasn’t stupid.<br>This was 6 fuckin years ago, we hadn’t even heard about Flurry heart and in the heads of everyone, this made perfect sense.

He wasn’t stupid.
This was 6 fuckin years ago, we hadn’t even heard about Flurry heart and in the heads of everyone, this made perfect sense.


twilight had a lot of magic because the princess's gave their magic to twilight


Luna and Celestia’s parents are so beautiful 🥺🥰

Well i now the name of ther mom Qeen glaxiya. for a garle in🇲🇻

LUNA AND CELESTIA ARE MY FAVORITE PRINCESSESS THEIR PARENTS ARE JUST AMAZING

I watch the video of celestia and luna  are born as alicorns

u mean queen galaxia and King Cosmos? ya oviously beautiful😊

They're cool but it just a fanart, they're not canon

Wait isn't that just art? Or did they actually show them in the show and I missed something-

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Yes but they are the other alicorns..but why did he not notice it?

Their dead rotting in a grave of dust and bones

I like to be twilight because she an alicorns


Yes actually Cadence actually had a baby that was born alicorn


"Are there any other natural born alicorns"<br>Flurry Heart:

"Are there any other natural born alicorns"
Flurry Heart:


if you look at lullaby for a princess you will see luna's baby form you see  luna dont have horn she was only wings when she was little

Ok but wasn't that made by a fan? And I think why you can't see a horn is because its smol because she's like a newborn foal


he should make another one with flurry heart


I'm more furry then bonny but the iead mixes me up since what the show Alicorns is what I grew up knowing as Unicorns.


What makes alicorns so special?<br>FRIENDSSSSSSSSSSSS

What makes alicorns so special?
FRIENDSSSSSSSSSSSS


Well maybe they are other alicorns. I see celestia & luna as elemental alicorns. You know water, earth, fire, air, ice, energy, light (sun), darkness (moon) and so on so forth.


Yes there is an other alicorn
AND HER NAME IS………..
FLURRY HEART
A natural alicorn


Everyone's talking about how Flurryheart is an alicorn, this was posted 7 years ago so there wasn't many alicorns


In greack metolgy the pegasus is the symbol of creatifnes. 🙂🙃


im pretty sure they werent born as alicorns because of the episode where we meetflurry heart


Yes !Their is Flurry Heart  <br>a natural alacond. 😉😉

Yes !Their is Flurry Heart
a natural alacond. 😉😉


I just noticed that Luna has smaller, waaaayyyy smaller wings than celestia

if im making a point here ... celestias wings shape is also different


Wouldn't the pony of shadows be an alicorn bc its a pony with a horn and wings and he also has a lot of magic. just a thought.


Now there is, Flurry Heart. Child of Cadence and Shinny Armor


I always thought they would all be alicorns also MAKE STARLIGHT GLIMMER THE PRINCESS OF MAGIC SHE DESERVES ITTT


Princess flurry heart is also a naturally born alicorn


No because when flurry heart is born she said this was the first time in history


When I was little I thought twilight would be the princess of the stars since her cutie mark looks like stars


Celesta and Luna can't be born alicorns because in the series when Cadence has her baby Twilight says that she has never heard about an Alicorn being born an Alicorn happening. Neither did Celestia and Luna


People keep saying there’s flurry heart

But flurry heart came out of season 6 which is 2 or 3 years ago

But this video was posted 6 years

So obviously no one knows if flurry heart even exist except the my little pony directors staff were planning


The 2 sisters are not born a alicorns<br>They were gave that by star swearl the beared

The 2 sisters are not born a alicorns
They were gave that by star swearl the beared


Even though you proved yourself wrong- I still like this (:


Celestia has been told in my Little pony for small sister was a Pegasus and she was a unicorn the stars were wizard make Luna and celestia Alicorns


Alicorns huh

Reminds me of a specific submarine capable of firing a nuke, bringing a entire country onto a nuclear winter


Do Princess Celestia and Princess Luna have their parents? According to my research, Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos are their parents. And if they existed, there are so many things that we don't know about them. What happened to them? Are they alive? Are they good or evil? Did they create the universe? Do they have other family members? If they came to life, what would they think about Twilight?


I was laughing so hard when he said that they didn't have what it takes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


But tirek had discords magic and it is very powerful that is probably why celestia and luna used the elements of harmony


Sawtooth: Or Celestia & Luna born an alicorn?

Me: Uww Wanna know! I am My little pony fan in 4 years

Sawtooth: FRIEEEEEEEEENDSS

celestia and luna are the daughters of queen galaxia and king cosmos they are alicorn too


But if when flurry heart was born they said that they'd never seen an Alicorn birth so does that mean that they're not actual alicorns

Yes it actually does<br>If you do want more details please reply

Yes it actually does
If you do want more details please reply


i will add to them, the daughter of Candice was born an alicorn therefore a princess!


there is other alicorns there name is Queen Galixia she is the mother of Calestia and Luna there is also a boy alicorn Queen Galixia race the sun and the boy alicorn race the moon


I think the third sister's cutiemark is a moom and a sun


Yes I believe Luna and Celestia are both real alicorn


Celestia and Luna became Alicorn’s by doing something no one did for example how did Celestia get her Cuitemark by raising the sun right then since no one did that alone before she became an Alicorn when Luna tried with the moon it worked so she got her cuitemark and became an Alicorn I think


Amore is celestia and lunas sister of the stars<br>Nightmare moon ,daybreaker, amore,galaxia,cosmos and good king sombra are all alicorns

Amore is celestia and lunas sister of the stars
Nightmare moon ,daybreaker, amore,galaxia,cosmos and good king sombra are all alicorns


Alicorns age slow but the older they are the slower they age at least that is my theory and celestia and luna from a thousand years before are slightly smaller then there future selfs


I don’t think Celestia and Luna were both born alicorns, because when Flurry Heart was born, they were very surprised. If they were both born alicorns, they wouldn’t of said anything or be surprised. Probably Starswirl turned both of them into alicorns.


On episode 5 season 8 at 15:44 some guy has a horn and wings, could it be a mistake?


My theory is that Celestia and Luna are natural Alicorns, which is why they have longer life-spans and flowing hair, unlike Cadence and Twilight who are artificial Alicorns and therefore lack these traits (I also think Celestia and Luna are more powerful).

As for other Alicorns, I'm pretty sure there at least used to be a lot more. Either they live outside of Equestria or their numbers have greatly declined over the years.

Didn't the journal say that they don't live longer, instead they age slower?

Also, Journal of Two Sisters mentioned something about Celestia and Luna being raised by other Alicorns.


Season 6: I'm about to end this man's entire courier


Princess celestial is so tall I love Princess Alicia she’s so awesome


3:02 actually yes her name is “flurry heart” isn’t it lovely  eh hehe sorry to interrupt but I’m new here!?


Queen galaxia and...
Well i dont remember the name of princess celestia and luna’s father but their mother queen galaxia is a alicorn soo..
Yah probably more alicorns than we know of.