Theory: exists
S7 Finale: "Let me introduce myself"

Theory: *exists*
S7 Finale: "Let me introduce myself"


People keep talking about the season 7 finale. I believe it’s NOT that shadow pony. I think it’s a different one; tirek. Let me explain:
— Tirek was from Season 4 so it was more relevant and in the beginning, when he was weak, he made a similar appearance
— The shadow pony from season 7 was in ‚limbo‘ so he couldn’t have been there since the other legends were also still in ‚limbo‘ WITH him
— Tirek was able to escape all the way back in season... I think one or two (I can’t remember lol) so he needed a place to stay. The castle of the two sisters was perfect because up to season 4 no one ever went there and he was safe. My theory is, he thought everyone forgot about the castle of the two sisters and thought he was safe, but when the main six went to the castle, he realised it wasn’t the perfect place. Unable to think of any other hiding spot he decided to start planning on ways to get magic (I mean it’s been a couple of seasons so he’s hidden for quite a while). Think about it; after the season 4 finale we didn’t get anymore hints to a shadow pony until the season 7 finale (unless I’m forgetting something idk) and tirek was back with serv... serva..... cough the cute three headed dog. But then again that’s just what I think and no one really cares so whatever.

People keep talking about the season 7 finale. I believe it’s NOT that shadow pony. I think it’s a different one; tirek. Let me explain:
— Tirek was from Season 4 so it was more relevant and in the beginning, when he was weak, he made a similar appearance
— The shadow pony from season 7 was in ‚limbo‘ so he couldn’t have been there since the other legends were also still in ‚limbo‘ WITH him
— Tirek was able to escape all the way back in season... I think one or two (I can’t remember lol) so he needed a place to stay. The castle of the two sisters was perfect because up to season 4 no one ever went there and he was safe. My theory is, he thought everyone forgot about the castle of the two sisters and thought he was safe, but when the main six went to the castle, he realised it wasn’t the perfect place. Unable to think of any other hiding spot he decided to start planning on ways to get magic (I mean it’s been a couple of seasons so he’s hidden for quite a while). Think about it; after the season 4 finale we didn’t get anymore hints to a shadow pony until the season 7 finale (unless I’m forgetting something idk) and tirek was back with serv... serva..... *cough* the cute three headed dog. But then again that’s just what I think and no one really cares so whatever.

If he noticed the Mane 6, surely he would've noticed the 4th princess.

I feel like it was just Zecora roaming the forest she lives in the ever-free forest So it makes sense and Shadow pony's eye is shaped like Zecoras too!

Love that! But I have one thing to add; Trierk probably stole a potion that turns you to shadow from Zecora during her monthly trip to ponyvile. Who knows, maybe he even corrupted some of the mosters in the Everfree forest.

I THINK you may be right!! I like your theory!!!

I do love that thery, really! It's just... if tirek was the pony of shadow he would have saw twilight is now an alicorn. If he saw that the finale would make no sence. First of all Cerberus (the guard dog) was in ponyvile. Twilight's home! So the secret exit from Tartarus is close to ponyvile. So... He would probably see or here about the new alicorn princess that is also ruleing all of Equestria. Just saying.

and tirek had a cloak with a hood similar to a witch hat so that ties in that theory that tirek was the pony of shadows in s3


Looks like we might find out in the Season 7 finale.

@Kimber Hyland there could be other shadow ponys we havent seen there was one who possessed stygian there might be more that took control over luna stygian and luna looks quite similar.

@Inky Scrolls i think granny smith was may talking about nightmare moon magic that took over rarity in the comic.

We will but not the shadows name or his hat he was hiding under a cloak of shadows we know what he look like but thats all

It said that it took form of the pony of shadows but it didn't say that it had to be it's first form.

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he cannot be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does not mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he _cannot_ be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does _not_ mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.


The Brony Notion: Star Swirl the Bearded is the Shadow pony

S7 Finale: I'm about to end this whole man's career

It do be like that tho @~@

Two birds with one stone. In this case, episode

@ZeeACeeK lol we know the starswirls friend

Now we have no idea who they are, still.

@Bank Nana you misspelled Stygian's name 😅

Stidgeon isnt he has been in limbo for 1000 moons or something and only in limbo until twilight pulled then out at the s7 finaly


Honestly I believe it was tirek. Just a personal theory, since he had to have left tartarus in the second season. Since we have seen he "feed" on magic, he was most likely put in a rare area where there was little to none of that. He was left very weak and practically none existent after all that time.

Once back in equestria, he headed straight for Canterlot. Hoping to cause trouble for the princesses and possibly get wanting to get their magics to get regain his strength. This would also explain that even through he wasn't able to absorb the alicorns' magic, did set off the alarm. That caused Shining Armors' shield and caused Chrysalis to rethink how to get in, not to mention how he knew that Cadence was an alicorn. Even though she probably wasn't even born when he was terrorizing the ponies before.

So he since he wasn't able to do what he wanted there. he found other things that were full of magic or had some sort of magic that made them different. (Mirror pool, jackolope, Parasprites, breezies, poor magical creatures that accidently get hit with twilights or other unicorns' magic while trying to practice; orange frog and orange bird). Which was why he was near ponyville and the everfree forest. Which is brimming with magical creatures. Of course he didn't find it right away, only after traveling all across equestria. Finding the forest probably not long before castle mane-ia, while the ponies were there. He simply followed them and found their terror funny.

Now why he didn't realize why one of them was an alicorn was is beyond me. But again this is just what I think about the shadow pony. As well as why it took Tirek so long to become the villain, when if you think about it the actual set up was in season too. (sorry that I got off topic and talked more about Tirek and not directly the Shadow pony. If I didn't make any since, let me know and I will try to make it more clear.)

i relooked my commet sorry if i said commet wrong but i taped it wrong i really wanted to say "he has a hood thats like a hat right?" XD

@harper tapsell He had a hood so don't mistake it as a witch hat. like trixies.

@Mysterious Pixelated Blur he has a hood hats like a hat right?

But Tirek doesn't have a hat...(I didn't read the whole comment)

@Karoline Kelly and also TIREK IS WARING A HOOD AND NOT A WIZARD HAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and also tirek eyes is not yellow and tirek is not the shadow pony IT WAS STAR SWIRL THE BEARDED!!!!!!!

@Karoline Kelly its not because tirek was prisoned remember and it problably star swirls the beardeds because of the eyes the yellow eye and the thing is star swirl the bearded has powerfull magic like tia and lulu and twily sparkly

And maybe the hat is actually Tirek's hood

I like this theory, I think Tirek is the Pony of Shadows too.


Ik it's really late but... the shadow-like creature can only be a remnant of Grogar's rogue power... its possible that it would have been existing as a phantom even before celestia and luna got the castle up and just because grogar was defeated doesn't mean that all his magic would remain with him or his bewitching bell... just like Storm King and some of his stormy magic terrorising in the human parallel world after he got busted


You were closer than you thought with the star swerl banish theory, its just that it was his aprentes.


Well, the pony of shadows was a pony that was taken over by the shadow forces and banished Star Swirl but keeping him alive. I have watched the last episode where it reveals your theory, but it was a really good geuss Brony! By the way I love your videos!!


“What did they do without the elements?”

They used the same spell they tried to use on cozy


It's kind of fun watching your old theory videos that have been utterly debunked. That's mostly because I'm mean, but I see how you came to this conclusion! Maybe it was an old plan that never came to fruition.


Actually now that I think about, it makes sense that the banished timeline and return timeline is opisite. Why? Well Luna is the weakest, and she had the least time being banished Discord is stronger than Luna for being banished longer. But Sombra was banished the longest and is the strongest. I guess depending on how long the villain is banished the more powerful they are when they return


Maybe the Pony of Shadows that we hear about in many occurances is Grogar's magic still continuing to create evil creatures. Cuz think about it, whenever theres a villain that was obviously corrupted (ie Sombra, Luna, and Stygian) shadows had something to do with it. Sombra became shadow when he was defeated, the shadows that had assisted in Nightmare moons creation still reside in the old castle, and Stygian became shadow. They all became new beings from the shadow and what Grogar did was pretty much create monstrousities. Now i could be wrong cuz where i am its almost 12:30 meaning im tired af but maybe im on to something and not just talking nonsense. You being a theororist would most likely be able to tell me one way or the other. Most likely im talking nonsese but this thought goes through my mind


The pony of shadows is stigeon when he was over taken by darkness. Or when sombra was banished his horn could have been used to make a shadow pony because when his horn was cut he could control it from outside the crystal empire

"The pony of shadows is stigeon"
NO, the pony of Shadows corrupted stigeon (and maybe Luna?) but still
NO.

That makes a lot of sense  although if he was why didn't he attack equestria and the mane six right away think about it. The shadow pony has to be someone good that the creators want to reveal the big surprise later in the tv show


I believe the “shadow pony” is a shadow reflecting off the moon. Think of it like the tantabus. The more guilt she has, the stronger it gets. So when she was banished to the moon, she had guilt. Luna was back to normal at one point, but felt guilty for trying to takeover Equestria. The shadow got so strong, it came ALIVE, resembling a pony.


The S7 finale doesn’t solve this mystery though. The shadow pony from the finale was banished to Limbo during this episode, that thing at the end of Castle Mania can’t have been Stigeon. <br>I’m sticking to my theory that it was Tirek in his weakened form for now- I know people say it can’t have been because then he would have seen Alicorn Twi, but remember, he only saw AJ and Dash. He heard the rest of them through the wall.

The S7 finale doesn’t solve this mystery though. The shadow pony from the finale was banished to Limbo during this episode, that thing at the end of Castle Mania can’t have been Stigeon.
I’m sticking to my theory that it was Tirek in his weakened form for now- I know people say it can’t have been because then he would have seen Alicorn Twi, but remember, he only saw AJ and Dash. He heard the rest of them through the wall.


I think Star Swirl was run by some evil magic like Luna's jealousy, or King Sombra's reign of shadow upon the Crystal Empire. So he did as so Luna had,  he turned to Discord. At the end of that episode he came back as Star Swirl,  but was still able to control the form of Discord.


0:17 Sombra's red splotch on his horn is gone, then reappears when he explodes and we see his horn flying towards the screen


We all know the ‘Shadow Pony’  is collected dark magic that takes over individuals. The only pony it has taken over so far is Stigian. Star Swirl bannished the ‘Shadow’, and it feels like, to me, that Sombra was working with the ‘Shadow’.


well its kind of confusing and maybe this time your right (maybe) but i also think sombra is the shadow pony and star swirl is the shadow pony its pretty confusing than ive ever expected


My theory is that sombra was trying to create the pony of light, but his spell got wrong and instead he created the pony of shadows. That infected him and he became evil, but when he was defeated, he lost the pony of shadows and thus it infected Luna,Snitchet and he himself again as he had reappear being evil and not kind.


We now have a canon answer,  but I still love this theory (:


The theory about Starswirl being the shadow pony may not have held up to the test of time, but the theory at 1:14 did. Tirek was sent to Tartarus before Sombra was turned to shadow, because Starswirl knew his brother Scorpan, and the royal sisters were also shorter at the time of the pillars' disappearance. The flashback of Sombra being banished shows Celestia and Luna at the heights they are in the show.


Interesting thoughts as always! I'll just share my own views on the analysis.

Okay, as far as banishing Sombra goes, nothing says that it occurred before Discord just because the Princesses weren't using the Elements against him. Why would they rescue the Crystal Empire from Sombra first and leave it be, then rescue Equestria from Discord and settle there to rule? And they probably just didn't need to use the Elements against Sombra because he wasn't especially powerful. He must have been a mere unicorn king who used some dark magic. But anyway, this is most likely a little detail that not even the show writers have decided on.

Second, the whole of your theory is based upon the assumption that the Shadow Pony is a villain who was banished by the Royal Sisters. I don't see why you should necessarily assume that, just because there is a pattern with banished villains reemerging every season. Even if the Shadow Pony turns out to be a villain, my bet is that it won't be anyone significant that the Royal Sisters had banished before. Just a leftover from Nightmare Moon as Granny Smith's tale suggests. As far as a potential main villain in the season is concerned, I think we can expect him/her to come from elsewhere. It's possible.

Third, I find it hard to believe that the Shadow Pony is Starswirl. I don't want to think that a great unicorn genius of magic suddenly appeared thousands of years after he supposedly passed away, just haunting an old Royal castle as a "Shadow Pony" or whatnot. Not to mention that the idea of Star Swirl getting banished by Celestia & Luna is... well... weird. Plus, that picture of Star Swirl where he is gray mage is a fan interpretation, so the yellow eyes don't really apply as a possible connection between him and the Shadow Pony. On his poster in "Three's A Crowd" his eyes are closed, so we don't know what colour his eyes really were.

My theory is that the so called "Shadow Pony" we saw at the end is indeed Zecora (Granny Smith's tale is only a myth and the shadow "hat" is just a hood), who was spying on the Mane Six & Spike for reasons to be revealed. I believe her intentions are, as always, benevolent. She cunningly helped with her white magic potion before, so she's keeping an eye on them now for further support. Oh, she also lives inside the Everfree Forest, so she could easily have access to the old castle.

Interesting thoughts as always! I'll just share my own views on the analysis.

Okay, as far as banishing Sombra goes, nothing says that it occurred before Discord just because the Princesses weren't using the Elements against him. Why would they rescue the Crystal Empire from Sombra first and leave it be, then rescue Equestria from Discord and settle _there_ to rule? And they probably just didn't need to use the Elements against Sombra because he wasn't especially powerful. He must have been a mere unicorn king who used some dark magic. But anyway, this is most likely a little detail that not even the show writers have decided on.

Second, the whole of your theory is based upon the assumption that the Shadow Pony is a _villain_ who was _banished_ by the Royal Sisters. I don't see why you should necessarily assume that, just because there is a pattern with banished villains reemerging every season. Even if the Shadow Pony turns out to be a villain, my bet is that it won't be anyone significant that the Royal Sisters had banished before. Just a leftover from Nightmare Moon as Granny Smith's tale suggests. As far as a potential main villain in the season is concerned, I think we can expect him/her to come from elsewhere. It's possible.

Third, I find it hard to believe that the Shadow Pony is Starswirl. I don't want to think that a great unicorn genius of magic suddenly appeared thousands of years after he supposedly passed away, just haunting an old Royal castle as a "Shadow Pony" or whatnot. Not to mention that the idea of Star Swirl getting _banished_ by Celestia & Luna is... well... weird. Plus, that picture of Star Swirl where he is gray mage is a _fan_ interpretation, so the yellow eyes don't really apply as a possible connection between him and the Shadow Pony. On his poster in "Three's A Crowd" his eyes are closed, so we don't know what colour his eyes really were.

My theory is that the so called "Shadow Pony" we saw at the end is indeed Zecora (Granny Smith's tale is only a myth and the shadow "hat" is just a hood), who was spying on the Mane Six & Spike for reasons to be revealed. I believe her intentions are, as always, benevolent. She cunningly helped with her white magic potion before, so she's keeping an eye on them now for further support. Oh, she also lives _inside_ the Everfree Forest, so she could easily have access to the old castle.


maybe during Starswirl's transformation into Discord a bit of his consciousness had to be given up in order for his magic to be more powerful but that consciousness couldn't just go ''poof!'' and it's gone. But I think that it was now independent of Discord/Starswirl and that's why it didn't reform with him.


Here is my theory and I'm pretty sure it's right becuz I am enormously late. The pony of shadows we saw in the castle was definitely tirek but just becuz he was there doesn't mean that he saw twilight. That castle is huge he could have been in a small place to get some energy and I'm pretty sure he didn't go around exploring. And twilight was in the secret library so it's not like she was too exposed and she wasn't making to much noise when she came either tirek would have been in a place quite hard to find and he wouldn't have known that there were people in the castle I mean it's not like the castle has sensors and security cameras he would only have known people were there when everyone were going crazy and by the time he reached the place everyone was in the secret library after that he probably didn't want to just take a rest but steal magic.<br>I think it's safe to make quesses now that mlp is over and its still a mystery undiscovered it could also be zecora but I think if it was her she would've showed her self or put things right this is my theory

Here is my theory and I'm pretty sure it's right becuz I am enormously late. The pony of shadows we saw in the castle was definitely tirek but just becuz he was there doesn't mean that he saw twilight. That castle is huge he could have been in a small place to get some energy and I'm pretty sure he didn't go around exploring. And twilight was in the secret library so it's not like she was too exposed and she wasn't making to much noise when she came either tirek would have been in a place quite hard to find and he wouldn't have known that there were people in the castle I mean it's not like the castle has sensors and security cameras he would only have known people were there when everyone were going crazy and by the time he reached the place everyone was in the secret library after that he probably didn't want to just take a rest but steal magic.
I think it's safe to make quesses now that mlp is over and its still a mystery undiscovered it could also be zecora but I think if it was her she would've showed her self or put things right this is my theory


Honastly i still think it could be trixie only because in one of the episodes where we first see trixie is that she was jealous of twilights magical capabilities so she got a hold of a neclace that amplifies her magic and we see while she is using it her eye color changes to red and it couldnt have been the old pony yes they look similar but the beard it would of been shown in the shadow when the shadow pony was first introduced and with that being said my hypothesis is that trixie is still mad at twilight or someone else.


Could you do a video on why celestial and Luna already knew about the element of magic but didn't tell any pony ? Love ur vids


Starswirl and trixie are alike in some ways maybe they're related like maybe starswirl is her grad father

Nightmare Sans
Great
Great
Great
Great
Great
Grand father
If star swirl did in fact father a kid.

If so, Trixie would have familiar Magical Powers + she would be way stronger than as goofy and selfish as she was in the series.

Nightmare Sans
1000 years
Great great great great great great great great grand father

Nightmare Sans Possibly,  but if that really WAS so,  why can't Trixie posses the magic Star Swirl can?


Who is the shadow pony in Castle Mane-ia? Well, after watching WatchPony's Top 10 Darkest MLP Moments, I think I've figured it out.

In entry number 10 on the list (This cliffhanger), when they said that some of Nightmare Moon's magic could've went on to corrupt Stygian, I immediately screamed *SORE WA CHIGAU YO!*, and I began thinking into the matter. After a couple minutes of racking my brain trying to figure it out, I narrowed my focus into season 4, and the pieces of the puzzle began to come together. I realized that it wasn't related to the Pony of Shadows at all, but was a villain much closer to home, one whose first appearance was in the same cloak Pinkie (who was believed to be the Pony of Shadows for most of the episode, making the connection) was wearing, one whose eyes were the exact same shape, and one introduced to the show just 23 episodes later.

In Season 1, Nightmare Moon returned. In Season 2, Discord returned. In Season 3, King Sombra returned. What villain returned in Season 4?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a picture to redraw. yeets microphone out of window at 400 miles per hour and leaves

Who is the shadow pony in Castle Mane-ia? Well, after watching WatchPony's Top 10 Darkest MLP Moments, I think I've figured it out.

In entry number 10 on the list (This cliffhanger), when they said that some of Nightmare Moon's magic could've went on to corrupt Stygian, I immediately screamed *SORE WA CHIGAU YO!*, and I began thinking into the matter. After a couple minutes of racking my brain trying to figure it out, I narrowed my focus into season 4, and the pieces of the puzzle began to come together. I realized that it wasn't related to the Pony of Shadows at all, but was a villain much closer to home, one whose first appearance was in the same cloak Pinkie (who was believed to be the Pony of Shadows for most of the episode, making the connection) was wearing, one whose eyes were the exact same shape, and one introduced to the show just 23 episodes later.

In Season 1, Nightmare Moon returned. In Season 2, Discord returned. In Season 3, King Sombra returned. What villain returned in Season 4?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a picture to redraw. *yeets microphone out of window at 400 miles per hour and leaves*


In the episode "Shadow Play" the pony of shadows is Stygian.He has a witch hat is because he  took artifacts from the pillars including Starswirl himself.


Yeah I know I'm commenting late and this video is dated to season 4 but.. You know how you mentioned the timelines well do you think that still applies and what if the shadow pony is/was a villain planed for seasons 5 6 and/or 7. I'm saying maybe MAYBE the pony was going to be a Vivian in 5 but they decided against it then they were gonna do it in 6 but forgot or something so what about the soon to be (hopefully not cancelled) season 7. MAYBE THEY WERE PLANING THIS WHOLE THING FROM THE BEGINNING AND THE SHADOW IS ONE OF THE 6. I mean the 6 thing can be possible because every pony in the series has shown a dark side at least once and apparently it is ok to banish all evil in the past and everything else in the future gets either destroyed. ( Sombra) befriended (Discord) restored(Luna)  sent back to where they were before ( crisa ...I can't spell her name) or put back into prison(teric the satanic monster that I can't spell his name either) so really everything is possible.


According to this villain concept ya i guess Tirek would make sense but wasn't he in prisoned in tartarous yet it was stated that he escaped during its about time when surburus left the gates of tartarous so yes this theory still makes sense because he is also banished in the earlier days of equestria according to celestia and Luna because Luna is still present and they did not use the elements of harmony to get rid of him but if even celestia's knowledge is limited about the crystal empire but yet twilight somehow knows that the have been gone a 1000 years and this episode clearly comes after Lunas return which was only 1000 years this time would mean that Sombra was banished after nightmare moon but as you can see in celestia's explanation of the crystal empires fall Luna was clearly with her and they did not use the elements this must be bad writing on the writers part because none of this lines up correctly so sorry but this smashes all previuos theory's including my previous one.    Later


They're going to have him/her in the season finale.


Although the glowing eyes where coming FROM the shadow, so it couldn’t have been Trixie or Star Swirl. It was actually a shadow


The pony of shadows is one of the nightmare forces that escaped before night moon was first banished , perhaps we will see more in future seasons?


Shadow pony is star swirl the bearded, he is immortal, he was the adviser to the princess's and no doubt lived in the castle of the two sisters he has now just returned to find the castle in ruins after being gone so long


With the season 7 finale, this and discord being Star Swirl the bearded is debunked, but still there is a small chance that the <b>shadow Pony</b> was a pony, but when Nightmare Moon's magic faded over time, he became weaker and now is just a shadow seeking for a new body?? I dunno. Or it might be the shadow pony from the season 7 finale Shadow Play! idk for real tho.

With the season 7 finale, this and discord being Star Swirl the bearded is debunked, but still there is a small chance that the *shadow Pony* was a pony, but when Nightmare Moon's magic faded over time, he became weaker and now is just a shadow seeking for a new body?? I dunno. Or it might be the shadow pony from the season 7 finale Shadow Play! idk for real tho.


May I add that Luna said she created it and it gains power from the blame Luna put on herself, the more she thought it was herself, the it grew


Does anyone notice that in the episode where they tell about Hearts warming that Clover the clever's outfit looks kind of like the outline of the Shadow Pony and we don't know what color eyes he had because we've never seen him before so as not to say or she's the shadow Pony.


Pony of shadows was defeated long before sombra because he was defeated by the pillars of harmony i.e the legends..😊😊


It IS a nice theory but , how many villains have we seen in season 3,4 I can only think of 2 . Lord Tirek and Sunset Shimmer . For Tirek it is a possibility because maybe that is when He was going to straight ahead steal the magic of friendship but when he tried and it didn't work He decided to take the magic of ponies, unicorns and pegasis first . Now for Sunset Shimmer it is very unlikely BUT maybe she went back to Equestria not to do harm but to opologize to Princess Twilight about .. ( you know what happened in the first Equestria Girls ) she wore the cloak so that nopony would recconize her . SHE tried to for a while but then gave up and went back to Canterlot high and when Twi would come back she would apologize .

+Gabi Valente It can't be  Tirek because h was still chained up then or making his way from being locked away but he would still be to weak and if he even got the strength to steal magic he could only steal unicorn magic at first then earth and wing THEN steal alhacorn magic :P sorry for my bad spelling...But i make a point..To me any way..

It cannot be sunset shimmer even if she didnt apologize in rainbow rocks. Because first of all sunset doesnt have yellow eyes. Even the the hood could make sense. The eyes were looking all evil- like so it cannot be sunset shimmer

+Guilherme Hoffmann Valente i agree and then she apoligized at rainbow rocks TADA


In Castle Mane-ia as Applejack said the Pony of Shadows is leftover magic of Nightmare Moon Stygian who became The Pony of Shadows because of his jealousy like Nightmare Moon/Luna, that magic must have remained to have affected Luna because The Pillars use their sacred items to banish The Pony of Shadows also taking them too, what if The Pony of Shadow is an entiy that affects creatures based on their extreme Jealousy, and The Pony Of Shadow could just be the race of Umbrums, because they are just shadows and they affected Luna and Stygian, Stygian's jealousy must have been so strong it attracted many Umbrums that became one, cause shadow can combine, and this came before Nightmare Moon, so maybe The Pony Of Shadows is an Umbrum that affected both Stygian and Luna.And maybe King Sombra used to be a normal Pony but was consumed by an Umbrum, or he was an Umbrum also,King Sombra, and The Shadow Pony are just a Shadows so they may be related but not them same thing that affected Luna and Stygian


If Star Swirl was really the shadow pony and the pattern of villains continues wouldn't that make the assumption that Star Swirl was evil witch we know is not true because in the episode Three is a Crowd there is an entire exhibit dedicated to celebrating this powerful unicorn while yes there are other holidays commemorating villains such as nightmare night but according to Zecora this is a time to place offerings so nightmare moon would leave the ponies of Equestria alone another year.But this still leaves the question wide open who is the shadow pony? well the answer could be obvious or i am just making unauthorized assumptions but couldn't Aj have spun the story on rainbow dash and the castle was what truly frightened Aj in this episode but who knows maybe granny just made it up to tell around the campfire. let me know what you think


Just because he is depicted as a well balanced character he might have turned himself into the shadow pony my evidence is his " unfinished" spell sent to twighlight in magical mystery cure


I know for sure! It was Stygian! (I know this isn’t the one you’re talking about, I’m just kidding.)


Nope. Here's why.
The leftover magic from nightmare moon would look like the creatures that made her nightmare moon. That thing certainly looks like the nightmare forces (the things that took over and controlled Luna.) So I think that Granny Smith was right. This might come into play in later seasons. Soo... What do you think BN or anyone else reading this? Am I right or wrong? Why? Please let me know your thoughts.
This was Lemoran, sighing off until next time.
By gold. Byee


We know now that the real Shadow pony was Stigeon, the pony who turned into the pony of Shadows, (we know that from Shadow play part 1 and 2 the last episodes of season 7) Star Swirl and the other pilars banished him to limbo (with themselves) before the elements of the harmony were even created, we know that because the pilars used their magic to create the elements of harmony, and the tree of harmony so equestria would still be safe with their absence. So technically Twilight wouldn't have even become and alicorn if it worn't for the pilars, because there would be no elements of harmony for her and the mane six to save equestria with, or maybe she would be an alicorn, just not the princess of friendship, because there would be no tree of harmony, therefore no castle, therefore no cutie map, therefore she still wouldn't know what she is the princess of, also because if there were no elements of harmony, there would be no honesty lesson for Apple Jack to learn in season 4 or no loyalty lesson for Rainbow Dash, or no Generosity lesson for Rarity, or no Laughter lesson for Pinkie Pie so on... So nobody would have gotten gifts that turned into keys that unlocked the chest, that made the castle, that made the map, and there would be no solving friendship problems for them. So basically, without the pilars, discord would still be reining over equestria.

there are other things that have come together and made sense with new episodes, and I personally just love when that happens! <3


6 year later: 0 answer, 3 die théorie ^v^  this mysterie is complet


Long ago in Equestria there was a king named Cosmos and a Queen named Galaxia. They had three fillies. Yes three! The youngest one was Luna before her it was Celestia. Then the oldest. Her name was Astelle. Astelle was full of hatred to Tia. So one day the King and Queen died from a war to protect Equestria. Because they died Astelle let go all the the anger and turned evil and fought Tia for the throne. Astelle was about to finish off Tia until Luna came in and helped Tia, but Astelle was too powerful so Luna was knocked away. Tia on the other hand got up and band Astelle out of Equestria.


honestly I think the shadow pony is just a spirit who takes over an actual pony like how Luna turned into nightmare moon and king sombra somehow turned evil. "darkness" took over them


Ok so let me make something clear<br>S4 e1 twilight uses a king sombra spell to turn the potion white then sees luna's transformation that looks the same as the pony of shadows' transformation and then after that this episode appears the think it's part of nightmare moon and the pony of shadows but it's not it's eyes are yellow neither nightmare moon, king sombra nor the pony of shadows has yellow eyes but the all have some sort of connection

Ok so let me make something clear
S4 e1 twilight uses a king sombra spell to turn the potion white then sees luna's transformation that looks the same as the pony of shadows' transformation and then after that this episode appears the think it's part of nightmare moon and the pony of shadows but it's not it's eyes are yellow neither nightmare moon, king sombra nor the pony of shadows has yellow eyes but the all have some sort of connection

@G Lambert English is my second, I know the feeling

Thanks for the compliment

@Dark Warrior  Oh... That is brilliant and smart!
(English is my third langue, so I still have a bit of trouble understanding stuff.)
I think Zecora might have once bin or was connected to the dark magic shadow ponies.
 That would eplain how she is so wise in regards to magic. Look at how she responded to the alicorn amulet. She was not even worried! Wait... what if her and sombra and maybe the pony of shadows made the alicorn amulet! Anyway...Thanks for wording your cool idea again! Bye!

@G Lambert I'm not good with my wording, am I?
Ok let's try this again

I meant that all of these "shadows" (sombra, nightmare moon and pony of shadows) have something in common

The spell twilight used to activate the potion was dark magic (the type sombra uses) this ends up showing luna's transformation into nightmare moon. The transformation is similar to stygian turning into the pony of shadows

Then 2 episodes later, castle mania
We hear of a "ghost" also referd to as a shadow pony.
We hear the story that it was once part of nightmare moon, but they call "The pony of shadows" (remind you of something)
But here is the catch, it's eyes are yellow, nightmare moon's is blue, pony of shadows is white and sombra's is green
So this is not one of the othere 3 shadows, but they are all connected

um... Would you mind explain that better. I'm lost. Thanks!


Anyone remember the tantapus? Relation to Luna, check. Shadow like creature, check. Maybe the tantapus existed long before Luna turned it into what is now. It all lines up.


I have a theory that still fits into the theory that discord is starswirl and the starswirl is the shadow pony, here it is, maybe the shadow pony is leftover magic from starswirl when he became discord, like Granny Smith's story but she forgot who the leftover magic was from, it makes sense sorry for the long comment


Another thing  (yeah I use those 2 words a lot) they defeated sombra with a rainbow beam to banish him that really sounds like the elements


Well didn’t the two alicorn sisters come to stop discord, so that means that if the shadow pony did come first that Luna and Celestia didn’t banish him and in the episode it clearly states that Starswirl and his friends not only made the elements but banished him as well


Maybe this darkness is it’s own thing because the pillars faced a similar threat who was also taken by jealousy


I think that the shadow pony is Luna's and Sombra's evil spirit, and when Stygian got angry that spirit got inside of him and turned him into the shadow pony. So actually anypony can be the shadow pony if they got nagativ emotions inside of them.

Am I smart or am I smart


When star swirl got rid or the sirens, I bet he used he magic and his body was eliminated, and maybe, his magic got turned into a shadow, and he  went to the castle of the sisters to find a spell that can get him back to his own original form.........<br>(Maybe now he is stalking twi to find out how true friendship works?)

When star swirl got rid or the sirens, I bet he used he magic and his body was eliminated, and maybe, his magic got turned into a shadow, and he  went to the castle of the sisters to find a spell that can get him back to his own original form.........
(Maybe now he is stalking twi to find out how true friendship works?)


Thanks to the season 7 finale, this theory is officially dead.

The only problem with that as shown in the finale the shadow pony had been in limbo with the pillers so he could of made it here

The pony of shadows was still in Limbo though

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he cannot be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does not mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he _cannot_ be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does _not_ mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

Actually he said the shadow pony meaning the shadow in the episode not the pony of shadows

@KibKake that actually makes alot of sense

Atomic Rose, Yeah...Stygian is the real shadow pony

i whached seoson 7! (pinkie pie is on the case)

It is wrong, but Star Swirl was involved in it. Blame him.

Atomic Rose no not really a least I don't think so...

Atomic Rose well, not fully. Maybe when starswirl was in between worlds, he was able to peek into equestria, in the form of a shadow.


Ah, how little we knew before the season 7 finale.


The shadow pony isn't just wearing a cloak " he or she " is also wearing a hat! The shadow pony is Tixie or Starswirl!


Maybe Nightmare Moon created the shadow pony, but it isn't physically a pony. It was just a dark shadow that came to life. As Granny Smith said, not all of NMM's dark magic went with her. AND it was at the old castle they lived in. Maybe the dark magic of NMM created the shadow pony. <b>shrugs</b>

Maybe Nightmare Moon created the shadow pony, but it isn't physically a pony. It was just a dark shadow that came to life. As Granny Smith said, not all of NMM's dark magic went with her. AND it was at the old castle they lived in. Maybe the dark magic of NMM created the shadow pony. *shrugs*

Frozenpaws3 Aj you may think its tirek with the yellow eyes but the fact is if that were true he would've took every ponies magic before he moved on to alicorn magic.

Katalina Thompson may i ask what can you proov that he was born before star swirl the bearded?

I'm starswirl was born before Luna and <br>clesteia  so they didn't banish him because he turned into Discord  and they turned him into stone and than he ment Fluttershy and twilight didn't notice that it was starswirl, in one of the episodes you can see twilight wearing the starswirl costome and Luna didn't say anything

I'm starswirl was born before Luna and
clesteia  so they didn't banish him because he turned into Discord  and they turned him into stone and than he ment Fluttershy and twilight didn't notice that it was starswirl, in one of the episodes you can see twilight wearing the starswirl costome and Luna didn't say anything

@Kittyfriend12345 Ah... =3 so cute=3 Okay listen.I'm gonna reveal my secret:) i have a weakness against girl=3 and other cute things like girls=3 You know,Cats,Ponies and other things like that) But i'm always trying to hide my emotions about cutness(sorry if i said something misunderstanding at this moment.I'm not really an expert of english) of girls.If you are girl,then i'm gonna say this:) You're so cute:) kill me if you're not a girl:)

+Daniel Antony Pencil Swirl, since her talent is drawing :3 You can see the updated picture here: http://kittyfriend12345.deviantart.com/art/MLP-OC-Pencil-Swirl-s-new-look-590788385

@Kittyfriend12345 Nice:) What's her name?:)

+Daniel Antony Thanks! She's my OC I drew <3

@Kittyfriend12345 your theory as right with some points) i like your picture) she's cute)

+Daniel Antony I don't really know what the fandom thinks. Mine is a small, stupid theory.

@Kittyfriend12345 Well.Your theory is right with some points.But Fandom says that Shadow pony isn't related to Nightmare moon.Fandom has no specific fact about Shadow Pony.But some fan mythologies has.Not all of them are reasonable.But if you try to take all reasonable pieces from mythologies,you can reach to this conclusion-Shadow Pony is Tartarus's sorcerer.Fandom has only this proved fact about him.Fandom even had theory that main six couldn't be just scared in simple castle.Because it's weird to see main six not afraiding Nightmare moon in Season 1 ep1,but to see them afraiding Nightmare moon's magic in Season 4 ep 3.Don't you think it's weird? that's why Fandom has theory that Shadow Pony is something like Sombra.He became ponie's fear like Sombra.But if you pay attention to Guard Armor-It's purple.Only Dark Power uses purple color of Armor.That one is Fandom's theory too.So.You should know what Fandom thinks.

+Daniel Antony I know this is probably not true, but it's just my small theory e.e

@Janet Ojeda his theory is good,but it's not proved.Fandom got more proved theories.Or rather facts.

+Kittyfriend12345 hmm.......... but the villan could be the person you suspect least...

+Kittyfriend12345 nightmare moon can&#39;t create pony.Because SHE IS one who created by one of dark creatures,previous rulers of equestria who was before the king Harmonius.

+Kittyfriend12345 nightmare moon can't create pony.Because SHE IS one who created by one of dark creatures,previous rulers of equestria who was before the king Harmonius.


if star swirl is the shadow pony how did he live that long or do pony's ever die

@Stephanie Ritson he put an age spell on himself,There was a whole part in a library dedicated to his works and in that part there was a large hourglass meaning that he would be good in time spells.So he could have cast an age spell on himself.

@Katalina Thompson  but didn't start swirl  turn celestia and and Luna to alicorns

Age spell  haven't you heard of the age spell?!?!?!?!??

ponies don't live that long. Granny Smith had the same lifespan as an average human. The mane six will live longer because they are connected by the magic of friendship, apparently.

RINGOFFIRE CREATIONS I think that just BEING an alicorn makes you immortal and age differently to other ponys

Katalina Thompson I wonder why he always has on that robe lol

@Samael The Sergal They are alicorns, that's why they can't die

You all really need to see season 7 finale....

First of all if you saw season 7 finale you know that the pony of shadows is non other that stygian and star swirl could in fact die if he wasn't trapped in limbo. Limbo isn't one place or the other, it is in between so time stands still. And after star swirl showed up it is proven that the theory that star swirl is discord is wrong, which i knew all along because it seemed too far of a strech.

Cool beans well, Celestia lived up to A THOUSAND years in my mlp trivia book.

Cool beans   And then season 7 came out and answered our questions

Cool beans uumm star swirl can do a spell

Bush _Baby they do die but I do what age

Yes they do everything has to die take aj's parents they died right

Bush _Baby the shadow pony is stygian. watch season 7

Ponies die, because Granny Smith is getting older but it seems princesses live forever, because celestia lived for 1000's of years.

Yep! I mean, it's pretty clear that Applejack's Mom and Dad died a long time ago, even though we don't actually know what happened to them!

Pones do die if there not a mortal because apple jacks parents died because they were not a mortal

Calling it right now. King Sombra is the pony of shadows

Becase magic star swirl live for a anouther day

Bush _Baby Well yes they can die which leads to another question how is luna and celestia not dead? Well there are observations like there heritage or there magic prevents them from aging like how the alicorn amulet can change their age like trixie did when she had the amulet.

Anything could have happened to him! I mean, BN's got a long video talking about his theory that Star Swirl read his unfinished spell out loud, and he was transformed into a draconequus with magic of chaos and was forever more known as Discord!

Maybe star swirled created or found an imortality spell, leading to the "Shadow pony"<br>How star swirled found the spell, sorta relates to discord. Discord, being imprisioned in stone, could habe helped him create the spell. Since discord and nightmare moon have been imprisoned in places normal ponys couldn't, maybe the imortality spell helped Discord, Nightmare moon, even Celestia and cadance live for so long.

Maybe star swirled created or found an imortality spell, leading to the "Shadow pony"
How star swirled found the spell, sorta relates to discord. Discord, being imprisioned in stone, could habe helped him create the spell. Since discord and nightmare moon have been imprisoned in places normal ponys couldn't, maybe the imortality spell helped Discord, Nightmare moon, even Celestia and cadance live for so long.

i learned that startsswir<br>tried to be a alicorn

i learned that startsswir
tried to be a alicorn

ponys live for thousands of years and princesses live for milions of years

bush _baby
pssst
ponies DO die, but if you watched his other video clips, stars work changed into DISCORD and became immortal
GOOD BYE!!!!!!!


the pony of shadow is really a old friend of star swirl and the others. and i think the the dark magic that transform luna into nigntmare moon is the same.some part of that dark magic did not get trapped in the limbo.


What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he cannot be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does not mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he _cannot_ be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does _not_ mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.


2014: The pony of shadow must be Star Swirl

3 years later: Start Swirl and his 5 friends (The legendary ponies of S7, also the 1st generation of Elements of Harmony - Healing, Strength, Hope, Bravery, Beauty, and Solstice?- the 6 ponies that planted the crystal seeds which become the Tree of Harmony) banished themselves to Limbo with shadow pony to save the Equestria.


I have some pretty good theories of how Nightmare Moon became Nightmare Moon and how the shadow Pony is apart of nightmare Moon's powers but my parents won't let me have a YouTube channel so I can't explain it in one comment.


S4 - Tirek
S7 - Shadow pony
S8 - Cosy Glow
S9 - Cosy Glow, Grogar, Sombra, Tirek and Crysalis

Александра Плотникова


Guess what, that mysterious shadow was of Pinkie Pie goofing around and then she found the organ and played it. The organ was connected to all the secret passes of the “Castle of the two Sisters”. That’s why the scary things happened. That’s what I think.


This is silly, but what if Discord and the shadow pony are both Starswirl the bearded? There is little to no evidence for this. The thought of the shadow pony being some split off part of Starswirl's identity is interesting though.


it's tirek! The eyes give it away and youcan see that the shadow is small.... meaning it's tirek when he's really weak


baby stars for a bearded was defeated by a real powerful even when you're somewhat and it turned him into the evil Sombra so maybe he is the shadow Pony


you are so so so so awesome. i watch you every day!


I'm confused because, well first no one knows what happened to star swirl the bearded. Two. Celestia said that starswirl disappered and reappeared over hundreds of years (after making himself immortal, of course) and three. Where did discord come from?


Do you think they think all this each time they come up with a new idea? Do they hold a meeting?
"John Smith, this video won't fit with the theorists. We need to fix that."
"Oh Michael, you're right. I'll fix it now"
"But we got all the animations already William"
"Ariana, still. Please just understand. This is important. New ideas?"
*Ariana facepalms*

Do you think they think all this each time they come up with a new idea? Do they hold a meeting?
"John Smith, this video won't fit with the theorists. We need to fix that."
"Oh Michael, you're right. I'll fix it now"
"But we got all the animations already William"
"Ariana, still. Please just understand. This is important. New ideas?"
**Ariana facepalms**


Maybe Star Swirl used a spell on his shadow and that’s why the “pony of shadows” looks like him.


if sombra can be reformed then who is the key to sombra's reformation


Well your theories are really clever but s7 finale exists 😥 but you are still very clever 😊


No.You really should read "Sombra origins " comic.You will see.There is specified he is a shadow pony and at the ending of the comic it shows his shadow and his horn and his voice saying"Long live the king" when Twi and Cadence went to discover his journal.There is proof he is the shadow pony.There is even more.You really have to see this.He is the pony of shadows

At fist I did belive that but then season 7 came out and...NOPE! So now I believe the pony of shadows is what helped make sombra evil.


Yes yet another thing it couldn't be the pony of shadows, sombra or magic from night mare moon because it had yellow eyes and tirek's eyes were smaller than the shadow and why in hell would zecora be creeping around in the castle, and one laas VERY IMPORTANT  detail... it's a shadow on a wall you can still see the wall and normal shadows don't have eyes (don't believe me go look at your shadow and try blinking your eyes tell me if you see your eyes on the wall)


If the Shadow Pony IS leftover Nightmare Moon magic, then that doesn't mean it has to LOOK like Nightmare Moon. A nondescript blob of shadow would fit a force of pure hatred and jealousy.


speaking of tirek, scorpan is one of the storm king's gaurds! he is the same species!


Well that's silly Sawtooth waves I know those Shadow Ponies are actually Celestia and Luna


I agree with your theory but you didn't mention that discord was the overall powerfullest of all the villains yeah sombras pretty powerfully but if discord was really star swirld abearded then he would hav e enough power to come back twice and even though discord became friends with the mane six thats the stop of a pattern~Took way to long to write this but it's worth it


the shadow pony could be nightmare moon because nightmare moon in the first episode changed her form so couldn't nightmare moon still change unless she can only do it if she has enough power


Maybe stars were the bearded left a bit of his magic to protect the castle of the two sisters so that no evil villain can use it as his layer knickers at all he had left of his students


Could the shadow be Star Swirl’s shadow. Like an evil shadow that he made.


Just think, if the Shadow pony was Star Swirl the Bearded, the in the Shadow it would show his horn so technically it's not Trixie or Star Swirl.


Also the name pony of shadows was long before nightmare moon so there is no way that the pony of shadows is part of nightmare moon


I'm creeped out because I'm in a room all by myself and freaked out by by The Cliffs of the video and I'm super freaked out because of you so thanks a lot dude!!!


The Pony of Shadows is Stygian, an old friend of the Pillars. It's revealed in the season 7 finale.

@szasvaseline Yep. And then he wrote a book about it.

Stygian was taken over by the shadow pony. He wanted to help the pillars, and played a BIG ROLE in defeating the sirens, but he got no credit for it. Because of this, he was overtaken by the shadow pony to steal the pillars magic once and for all until twilight saw Stygian was trapped, and Stygian revealed why he's upset


Ok great I think that's good but on one of the little show things, a former friend of the Bronys showed how princess Luna had got turn in to nightmare moon ,there are these chaos nightmare things that fed off of Luna's anger and jealously well technically they feed off of that type of energy any way and they took over her and cause her to turn in to nightmare moon why I'm telling you this is because if you see the picture the things look like shadow monsters and it said that in another show the nightmare monster took over Luna also in a show called princess Trixie sparkle that they had a shadow pony well steall I think that how it's spelled. Sorry if I wasn't so specific .


TheoreticALLY, star swirl was there when nightmare moon was there but he didn't warn celestia, with this I think granny's stories are true, star swirl was casted by nightmare's magic turning hm into the shadow pony


I am led to believe that the Pony of Shadows is Tierek. But I get that this theory was placed before Tierek


Star must be the pony off shadows, ok well that was creepy , moving on probably he had so much power it took over he didn't whant any body to think wrong of him so the shadow pony was created by himself to con seal his true identity hope you read it love your video's wow no typos yay


One thing you missed is that the pony of shadows was there after Luna’s banishment because AJ said:
After Luna’s banishment, not all of her dark magic went with her, and that dark banishment made the pony of shadows!
So the pony of shadows was made after Nightmare moon’s banishment


In the episode do princess dream of magic sheep it appears that princess luna had created the tantabus to blame herself of what she had done it could have happened that granny smith was right maybe the tantabus had created the shadow pony and that could also explain  all of the everfree forest's dark magic


“And Sombra for sure died already”<br>Season 9 “you sure about that?”

“And Sombra for sure died already”
Season 9 “you sure about that?”


I think its Tirek because of his cloak and the eyes and that he is the villain in the season 4 finale maybe its just a preview of the villain


1:20 No... because technically the villain for season 4 was discord. The season after that... Unless Starlight Glimmer is immortal than... no.


This theory was broken in season 7 finale.


maybe if when you said star swirl said his unfinished spell he turned into discord just before he cast a spell to let him live in his star swirl form but as a shadow

yes,no,maybe?


He did not die because when we seen the big bubble thing cut his horn off and black rocks formed inside the bubble thing. So ware ever the horn landed it might do the same but that's what I think so it might not be true. Do any of you think that to? Let me know.


Sombra is Shadow in spanish huh?

Which means he is officially

"King Shadow" or "King Shade"


sombra could be similar to voldemort and have horcux like things


Once in twilights Kingdom, Tirek eyes glow. And what is he wearing in the begining? A cape. That could be the hat. Maybe Tirek comed to castle. For no good reson. But still. Tirek is the shadom pony.

Eyes are wrong size, tirek never knew twilight existed and if you look closely you realise that it a shadow on a wall with glowing eyes tirek's shadow can't do that

he isn't a pony though... he is a... uh i forgot what their called but you get it right?

Allow me to correct some spelling mistakes. :) I'm a grammar freak, so haters gonna hate.
1. "Once in twilights Kingdom, Tirek eyes glow. And what is he wearing in the begining?" You forgot an apostrophe s in the word Tirek. And begining is spelled with two Ns; beginning.
2. He actually wore a more cloak like thing, not a cape.
3. "Maybe Tirek comed to castle. For no good reson. But still. Tirek is the shadom pony." You mean "Maybe Tirek came to the castle. And the "For no good reason" should be in the same sentence. And you mispelled shadow. :3
Hoped this... well, helped. Don't judge me, I can't leave something like that without correcting. xD Poo me.

Allow me to correct some spelling mistakes. :) I'm a grammar freak, so haters gonna hate.
1. "Once in twilights Kingdom, Tirek eyes glow. And what is he wearing in the begining?" You forgot an apostrophe s in the word Tirek. And begining is spelled with two Ns; beginning.
2. He actually wore a more cloak like thing, not a cape.
3. "Maybe Tirek comed to castle. For no good reson. But still. Tirek is the shadom pony." You mean "Maybe Tirek *came* to *the* castle. And the "For no good reason" should be in the same sentence. And you mispelled shadow. :3
Hoped this... well, helped. Don't judge me, I can't leave something like that without correcting. xD Poo me.

i think this may be the villain for season 5 and luna and celestia  could have had help with with banishing them to tartars so maybe someone else is going to escape a new villain perhaps from there parents time? or could it be one of there parents? both of these theories look flat but we do get hints that they at one point they had parents. could it be?

@MrLucario18 buy he saw them though there were eyes on the shadow so it couldn't have been Tirek

@The Brony Notion<br> Unless he only heard the girls and spike, but didn't see them. Then went away before they could see him and vise versa.

@The Brony Notion
 Unless he only heard the girls and spike, but didn't see them. Then went away before they could see him and vise versa.

If he was, he would have known Twilight was an alicorn and their are more than just three.


It might be discord taking the form of star swirl the bearded     because he has yellow eyes or it might be ocellis because she is a changling but meh i might be wrong great videos keep doing them


i think the shadow pony was the evil left over from every evil thing ever building up to make a pony


I think maybe clover the clever might be the shadow pony cuz he doesn't really have a backstory and something might of happened to him causing him to be evil but idonno could be star swirl and/or discord


So, I wasn't banished before Sombra, I was banished before equestria existed. And sure I'm not the shadow pony. But honestly I don't know. Sometimes I leave and move around at night.


I think that it WAS star swirled a bearded because we are NEVER told WHY he had left equestria in the FIRST place! so my theory is that he was banned by celstia and luna BUT ALSO notice how twighlight is the ONLY one other than celestia and luna that remembers him... see take the halloween special where twighlight is dressed up as him and NO ONE else gets it ONLY the princesses like celetia, luna, cadence, and our newest member twighlight.. SO i DO think that it is star swirl 1.) like you said the shadow matches 2.) we don't know WHERE he went and 3.) no pony knows him except for the princesses. JUST something to keep in mind.. OH and PLEASE do correct me if I'm wrong :0<br>:D

I think that it WAS star swirled a bearded because we are NEVER told WHY he had left equestria in the FIRST place! so my theory is that he was banned by celstia and luna BUT ALSO notice how twighlight is the ONLY one other than celestia and luna that remembers him... see take the halloween special where twighlight is dressed up as him and NO ONE else gets it ONLY the princesses like celetia, luna, cadence, and our newest member twighlight.. SO i DO think that it is star swirl 1.) like you said the shadow matches 2.) we don't know WHERE he went and 3.) no pony knows him except for the princesses. JUST something to keep in mind.. OH and PLEASE do correct me if I'm wrong :0
:D

well yeah but we don't know all of dis info for sure...

@John McHenry i can see where your coming at but it may have happened so she could spare her subjects..

@Nicholas Sanchez She would know cuz of three's a crowd.

@TheGalaxy Gal We don't know if Cadence knows who Starswirl is like Celestia and Luna do

I agree cause he has yellow eyes and that hat in night mare night and he was also the one that knew where the castle of the two sisters he took care of them well not really but he watched over them to make sure they'll be fine

isnt everybody forgetting TIREK LITERLLY WAS THE SIZE OF A PONY AND WORE A CLOAK!

@Sonicbolt Perhaps, but at the same time, it's stated in the Journal of the Two Sisters that he had made himself younger due to a time travel spell gone wrong. What if him appearing in the present is another instance of this? Even the most powerful magic users occasionally make mistakes.

No one ever said he left.  Even the powerful are susceptible to age.

@TheGalaxy Gal I don't Celestia is the type to erase people's memories. I think its just a case of most of the pony population being interested enough in him. If you want real world go to any American school system and see how many people know who George Washington or can name any of the other Founding Fathers.

@John McHenry yes but thats a big deal maybe the princesses ERASED the memory of him and brought it back to SOME people. and also if you rewatch it, it looks like they are at the castle.. so... idk

In Three's a Crowd Twilight took Cadence to a Star swirl exhibition. So some people do remember him. It might be a case of people in the real that don't pay much attention to history.


What about T-rek? When he collected magic, he might have magically made a hat


It could be trixe and zecora working together, to make it look like its the shadow pony.


"And Sombra totally died already"
Laughs in S9

"So... Star Swirl is the shadow pony?"
WELL.... He disappeared at the same time as the S7 one I'll give him that

"And Sombra totally died already"
*Laughs in S9*

"So... Star Swirl is the shadow pony?"
WELL.... He disappeared at the same time as the S7 one I'll give him that


When The Brony Notion sees S7 final he's gonna flip. 👨💻


Well, now we know! It was Tirek! When he was really weak....of course!

Well, now we know! It was Tirek! When he was really weak....of course!

Akane-sSan it's not Tirek it's DONT READ UNLESS YOU ARE IN 2018

it's Stigion from the season 8 finale (Stigion Is Starswirls friend AKA not Starswirls)

Actually in season 7 the shadow pony was somepony else

Actually in season 7 the shadow pony was somepony else

Cupcakes Rule No because i dont think she still had equestrian magic to enter

Cupcakes Rule No because i dont think she still had equestrian magic to enter

Toadstool and King Sombra Also because He was imprisoned in Tartarus

Toadstool and King Sombra Also because He was imprisoned in Tartarus

MLP Diamonds No because tirek was vanished to tartarus

MLP Diamonds No because tirek was vanished to tartarus

Akane-San Tirek was in Tartarus or. vanished to a prison.

Akane-San Tirek was in Tartarus or. vanished to a prison.

that could be right but the shadow pony is so bad than ever

that could be right but the shadow pony is so bad than ever

Akane-San thats right when he escaped he stiled magic from ponies but he wasnt strong to show him self he said something like I escaped long time ago this episode was 3 before finale he had 1 season and 3 episodes to steal

Um....no...he would have seen twilight and in s4 last episode, tirek had no clue

Um....no...he would have seen twilight and in s4 last episode, tirek had no clue

Erin Zarreanna but how do you know for sure?<br>The tirek one is making most sense

Erin Zarreanna but how do you know for sure?
The tirek one is making most sense

Akane-San no no no the hat the trixie hat and star swirl the beardeds hat are the same the shadow pony might be star swirl the bearded if a spell went wrong and made him evil

Evangeline Lai how is that supposed to work ? '-'<br>He is not even a cannon character of the show and has red eyes, I have watched princess trixie sparkle

Evangeline Lai how is that supposed to work ? '-'
He is not even a cannon character of the show and has red eyes, I have watched princess trixie sparkle

i know right because can't be nightmare moon, discord or sombra. because they have horns and u can not see the horns in the shadows

i know right because can't be nightmare moon, discord or sombra. because they have horns and u can not see the horns in the shadows

No. He was banished with cuffs, the shadow pony did not have them.

No. He was banished with cuffs, the shadow pony did not have them.

+Walk DMc Mabye granny smith was wrong :P

+Walk DMc Mabye granny smith was wrong :P

Wow dude it was star swil or some of the nightmare moon left over evil

Wow dude it was star swil or some of the nightmare moon left over evil

+Akane-San  you might just be RIGHT you are a smart brony lol XD

+Akane-San  you might just be RIGHT you are a smart brony lol XD

Yes I suppory your thought, because tirek was sent to tatarus before sombra. And he has the yellow eyes and tye hood! It makes so much sense

I am not doubting anybody, and it could have been Tirek or Derpy or Pinkie but how often do you see them in witch hats?

I am not doubting anybody, and it could have been Tirek or Derpy or Pinkie but how often do you see them in witch hats?

+Foxstar Moon No, Tirek escaped from Tartarus near the end of the second season in "It's About Time", when Cerberus left his post at the gates.

+Martha Boateng it was a pony<br>and it was small ad pony size

+Martha Boateng it was a pony
and it was small ad pony size

I know who is the pony........ is LIGHTNING DUST she have a yellow eye right.

I know who is the pony........ is LIGHTNING DUST she have a yellow eye right.

now that somepony said it, you're probably right.

now that somepony said it, you're probably right.

@Poo Pile because people like my sis love it! So uncool! : (

@Poo Pile because people like my sis love it! So uncool! : (

@Rainbow Freakin' Dash  I don't see much but I bet it was. : )

@Rainbow Freakin' Dash  I don't see much but I bet it was. : )

+Jolanta Lasovska Yeah He forgot Crysails!

+Jolanta Lasovska Yeah He forgot Crysails!

+FrostTheFox I agree it's the same season so it was obviously a play on the next baddy coming into play. However... What in the wide wide world of equestria was Tirek doing there?

A) looking for The two that took him down.. Luna and Celestia? Maybe. Maybe he had learned of the elements and was looking to take them? Instead he finds the embodiment of them .. :) running around scared? :S I mean how hard could it be to take them on? This is why he waited.... That answers Twilight's question of "Why now?" So that answer that. We also know where Scorpan has gone.. but what of his return? Is he? Will he return? Guess that's up to the writers :) And what they have planned.

+Lunar Shine and tirek is the season 4 villain so he wouldn't have been around

+Lunar Shine and tirek is the season 4 villain so he wouldn't have been around

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+FrostTheFox  wait, that's not possible, because if it was tirek, he would've known there was a fourth alicorn princess because he would've seen twilight

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@FrostTheFox  it cant be tirek because than tirek would know that there was a 4th princess. but he did not know about twilight

@FrostTheFox  it cant be tirek because than tirek would know that there was a 4th princess. but he did not know about twilight

@FrostTheFox  i do not think it is Tirek. One resin is because of the cape he wears. it does not look like the shadows ponies cape. also the eyes on Tirek are circles unlike the shawdows ponies eyes

Will If Tirek was there that mean in the Season finale he will already know Twilight

Will If Tirek was there that mean in the Season finale he will already know Twilight

I know now starswirl became all the villains first sombra then discord but nightmare moon was Luna but starswirl could have been all the other villains

I want to see a video
Where's the horns of twilight, rarity,sunset shim and all other unicorn BG characters?
What are they Shemales or what?

sorry I for got what is going on???????????

sorry I for got what is going on???????????

but u are right about it would have been in twilights kingdom

but u are right about it would have been in twilights kingdom

actually she could be correct he could have been out already doing whatever and remember he had a hood when he was weak

actually she could be correct he could have been out already doing whatever and remember he had a hood when he was weak

@FrostTheFox i was thinking it was tirek when it showed the timeline.

@FrostTheFox i was thinking it was tirek when it showed the timeline.

@FrostTheFox it was not tirek because they alredy have defiet him and he was the villian of season 4 not 5 and that means Tirek was in the prison there

@Miranda S<br>please keep your opinions to yourself.

@Miranda S
please keep your opinions to yourself.

@FrostTheFox Or it was Chrysalis. Trying to find out more about the princesses to someday return and not make the same mistakes she made bevor again.

@FrostTheFox
It could not have been Tirek because he did not know about princess Twilight.
It could not have been Discord/Starswirl because he would definitley have caused more caos since he was never completely reformed.

And it could not have been Sunset Shimmer because the portal was closed.
I think it could have been some sort of zebra because of the eyes and the shadow pony somehow looking similar to Zecora in bridle gossip.
Maybe it's a zebra we haven't seen yet.
Maybe season 5 will show who it really was.

Frostthefox hat is my b - day! lets end this talk and I did not get what you sead

Frostthefox hat is my b - day! lets end this talk and I did not get what you sead

@Mataya Hill shadow <br>I mean cuz i can haz spellingz

@Mataya Hill shadow
I mean cuz i can haz spellingz

Or maybe it is star swirl/discord and the shadow is star swril/discord's closets thing to being a pony again, possibilitys are limitless. I hope the show pops up again.

@FrostTheFox no it was not tirek it was ether zicora or trixi

@FrostTheFox no it was not tirek it was ether zicora or trixi

@kittenleaf3 i think its discord/starswirl because discord wanted to not be known and accused of creating chaos because he wants to show hes reformed. since starswirl was who he used to be, that was his first option. another thing is that starswirl seems like a pony who likes to be in the light, and many people have a theory that starswirl and luna were in love until luna became night mare moon. so, he could be looking for her in the castle, even if hes discord and knows, he could be in starswirl form, so he doesnt know because he died before luna came back from the moon. so my point is, i have proof its starswirl/discord.

@Bon Bon If i remember right, we know star swirl best for 2 things.
1) Twilights Mentor
and
2) Creating and Using Spells of Time Travel and Dimension Travel.

So i think its VERY possible.

@Wardoctor13 Interesting theory. The only problem with it is that he would had to be over 1000 years old now (unless he travels in time).

i think it was Star Swirl, cause we ever told that he died?...at all?

And if not him, maybe a New villain or something for season 5.

@FrostTheFox it couldn't be Tirek, because then he would know about Twilight Sparkle and her friends all well. And we know from the Season 4 finale that Tirek didn't know about the fourth Alicorn Princess. (Which to me is somewhat odd, since he supposedly escaped from Tartarus when the Cerberus went off his post, leaving the Tartarus unguarded; and since Twilight's coronation occured some time after that, Tirek should have at least heard the rumors about that.)

@***** Wait I thought this was about the shadowpony, as in who's silhouette that was.

@***** Wait I thought this was about the shadowpony, as in who's silhouette that was.

@*****.  The shadowpony itself could have been, and probably is,  just an urban legend and set up for the episode. Coincidences like that are used in cartoons a lot.

Who said he saw them? also, he might not have known that Twilight was a princess, he might have thought: ''I guess being an alicorn is normal now''

@victoria ivey it's Tirek, when he was weaker, he was tiny, the witch hat? it's the cloak ben't backwards

@victoria ivey it's Tirek, when he was weaker, he was tiny, the witch hat? it's the cloak ben't backwards

@***** Well, The castle was dark and Twilight was the secret room for most of the time. Maybe he just didn't see her wings.

@***** Well, The castle was dark and Twilight was the secret room for most of the time. Maybe he just didn't see her wings.

@Crazychicken715  He has a hood remember

@Crazychicken715  He has a hood remember

The villain before sombra was chrysalis!

The villain before sombra was chrysalis!

Most of these comments about how it cant be tirek are great XD like HE DOUSNT HAVE A HAT

Most of these comments about how it cant be tirek are great XD like HE DOUSNT HAVE A HAT

@rj christensen THE ABOMINABLE SNOW BEAVER?!

@rj christensen THE ABOMINABLE SNOW BEAVER?!

@Nanomech14 yes but maybe he found a way back

@Nanomech14 yes but maybe he found a way back

@kittenleaf3 wasnt star swirl the beard get banished from equestria

@kittenleaf3 wasnt star swirl the beard get banished from equestria

@TheCookieGeek no no no its star swirl he has yellow eyes and and a hat like in nightmare night

@TheCookieGeek no no no its star swirl he has yellow eyes and and a hat like in nightmare night

pfft, your all wrong....it was the..yellow-eyed demon! (please let someone understand this joke)

pfft, your all wrong....it was the..yellow-eyed demon! (please let someone understand this joke)

@FrostTheFox but tirek isnt a pony so how can he be a shadow pony

@FrostTheFox but tirek isnt a pony so how can he be a shadow pony

@***** also it couldnt be tirek cuz he appeared later on in the show

@***** also it couldnt be tirek cuz he appeared later on in the show

It's not tirek because as told from AJ the shadow pony was apart of Nightmare Moon , tirek was never apart of Nightmare Moon

It's not tirek because as told from AJ the shadow pony was apart of Nightmare Moon , tirek was never apart of Nightmare Moon

@Cupcakes Rule she was only the villian of mlp equestria girls

@Cupcakes Rule she was only the villian of mlp equestria girls

@***** What? Please don't reply if you aren't gonna make sense. O_O

~Dash~

@***** What? Please don't reply if you aren't gonna make sense. O_O

~Dash~

Her Loyal Highness, Princess Rainbow Dash

@***** O_O

1. "Castle Mania" was not in season 1. It was in season 4. :/
2. Star Swirl was... already dead.
3. Discord could care less about wandering around Celestia and Luna's old castle. If he wanted to check on them, he would've shown his face, like he does in every other episode. Besides, Discord was off doing something else. Remember "Twilight's Kingdom (Part 1)"? Discord was called to defeat Tirek from some other place.

Tirek is pretty much the only thing that makes sense in the "Shadow Pony" situation.

~Dash~

@***** O_O

1. "Castle Mania" was *not* in season 1. It was in season 4. :/
2. Star Swirl was... already dead.
3. Discord could care less about wandering around Celestia and Luna's old castle. If he wanted to check on them, he would've shown his face, like he does in every other episode. Besides, Discord was off doing something else. Remember "Twilight's Kingdom (Part 1)"? Discord was called to defeat Tirek from some other place.

Tirek is pretty much the only thing that makes sense in the "Shadow Pony" situation.

~Dash~

You might be right. Tirek is probably the shadow pony. Though if it was him, why wasn't he shown like the other villains had myths?

You might be right. Tirek is probably the shadow pony. Though if it was him, why wasn't he shown like the other villains had myths?

i don't think it was Tirek i think if it had been the mane six would have been the first victems of his power and even if he had chosen not to reveal himself and start his magic sucking campaign the fact of there being four princesses rather than three wouldn't have been the big reveal that it was

@FanOfAnimation I made a mistake (geesh). I meant that Celestia and Luna turned him to shadow. Their magic blast made me think they had the elements and I forgot.

~Dash~

Um, Celestia and Luna didn't use the elements on Sombra. They don't have them in the flashback.

Um, Celestia and Luna didn't use the elements on Sombra. They don't have them in the flashback.

@Quip Does Minecraft The freakin' last 2 episodes make it so obvious. In "Twilight's Kingdom Part 1", Tirek is hunched over, wearing a hooded cloak. His hunched body makes him the size of a pony. He was too weak. His eyes had a yellow glow, too.

As for Sombra, he was turned into shadow by Celestia and Luna (they defeated him). He was not born that way. That was explained by Celestia. In Celestia's flashback, Sombra was obviously a solid, non-shadowy pony. You cannot have been watching the same show. Your facts aren't facts at all. However, Sombra did use dark magic, so there's where I agree.

Now I gotta go, so bye. ^^

Edited: 2-18-15/2:44pm

~Dash~

@Quip Does Minecraft The freakin' last 2 episodes make it so obvious. In "Twilight's Kingdom Part 1", Tirek is hunched over, wearing a *hooded cloak*. His hunched body makes him the size of a pony. He was too weak. His eyes had a yellow glow, too.

As for Sombra, he was turned into shadow by Celestia and Luna (they defeated him). He was *not* born that way. That was explained by Celestia. In Celestia's flashback, Sombra was *obviously* a solid, non-shadowy pony. You cannot have been watching the same show. Your facts aren't facts at all. However, Sombra *did* use dark magic, so there's where I agree.

Now I gotta go, so bye. ^^

*Edited:* 2-18-15/2:44pm

~Dash~

explain this to me because i have seen every episode more than once. and i have found nothing that connects tirek to the shadow pony.where as my head cannon somewhat makes sense... somewhat. i know its only 18 lines, so its not too in depth. but i will be adding onto it.

in short the shadow ponies are a race of (antiponies i guess) but they are mostly masters of dark magic,

seing that sombra one of the most well know shadow ponies was more or less a shadow, (i know he was turned to shadow by the princesses) he was a master of dark magic.

lets pause right there to adress something-Why, why did sombra take over the crystal empire. i have seen a few theories but im a bit skeptical about them.

my belief is that he invaded the crystal empire to try to revive his race. but he failed and was ultimately destroyed. what he didnt know was that the shadow ponies still lived on.

it was shown in the the first 2 episodes, that it is posible for a pony to turn into shadows, willingly. as seen in nightmare moon. which makes it possible. luna being the princess of he night and all thing dark, would have taken a liking to them and showed them. before all of them died at least one of the shadow ponies survived and lived on as a shadow for the rest of its long, long, long life.

@Quip Does Minecraft Huh? Watch the show, dude. The last 2 episodes matches up with the Tirek comments.

~Dash~

@Quip Does Minecraft Huh? Watch the show, dude. The last 2 episodes matches up with the Tirek comments.

~Dash~

I just read all 56 replies to this statement and as i said earlier i believe that there were a race of shadow ponies, Similar build to sombra, Long curved horns, most masters of dark magic. yada yada yada, read my comment on the video and that explains every thing in only 18 lines.

so it is cleared: the shadow pony was tirek!

so it is cleared: the shadow pony was tirek!

@FanOfAnimation Someone already answered that question. Twi was in another room. :/

~Dash~

@FanOfAnimation Someone already answered that question. Twi was in another room. :/

~Dash~

Actually no. How come Tirek didn't know about the fourth alicorn princess (Twilight) if he was the pony of shadows?

Actually no. How come Tirek didn't know about the fourth alicorn princess (Twilight) if he was the pony of shadows?

like I said the hat was because of the luna guard didn't like his ears!

like I said the hat was because of the luna guard didn't like his ears!

@FrostTheFox What are you trying to say? O_O

~Dash~

@FrostTheFox What are *you* trying to say? O_O

~Dash~

@Foxstar Moon No. Tirek had already escaped by then. :) In season 2, Celestia said he had escaped in "It's About Time". Plus the guard of Tartarus, a 3-headed dog, was terrorizing Ponyville, so Tirek had time to escape (he wasn't in his prison when the dog was returned to his post).

~Dash~

Guys it will be revealed in season five and it's obviously the abominable snow beaver

Guys it will be revealed in season five and it's obviously the abominable snow beaver

the wizard hat. it couldnt be tirek. he doesnt have a wizard hat like starswirl or trixie...

the wizard hat. it couldnt be tirek. he doesnt have a wizard hat like starswirl or trixie...

I still think its an evil luna guard because look at them they all have yellow eyes and possibly the guard is a form of luna like I said because nopont have ears like that and he possibly put a hat and cloak because he pony didn't like the way he looked and waited for luna to come back for revenge because of the way he looked! OMIGOSH IVE GOT IT!! :D!!!!!!

Yes! It was Tirek! Even the yellow eyes match!

Yes! It was Tirek! Even the yellow eyes match!

He probably didn't she was in one room the whole time

He probably didn't she was in one room the whole time

Wouldn't he have seen Twilight? He didn't even know a fourth Alicorn princess existed before he saw that stained glass window.

Wouldn't he have seen Twilight? He didn't even know a fourth Alicorn princess existed before he saw that stained glass window.

Mabey in his really weak stage he is a shadow

Mabey in his really weak stage he is a shadow

It has to be Trek Serberis left before that episode

It has to be Trek Serberis left before that episode

Well, that's just villain logic as we know it

Well, that's just villain logic as we know it

@Foxstar Moon treik was in prison but got out some way

@Foxstar Moon treik was in prison but got out some way

Crepypasta isent a real mlp character! !!!!

Crepypasta isent a real mlp character! !!!!

you are joking.....(-_-) i mean look..! at the nose!

you are joking.....(-_-) i mean look..! at the nose!

I'm gonna guess you don't read or watch creepypastas. Search "pony SCP-049" in google

I'm gonna guess you don't read or watch creepypastas. Search "pony SCP-049" in google

You guys are all wrong. I know who the shadow pony is now. It's obviously SCP-049

You guys are all wrong. I know who the shadow pony is now. It's obviously SCP-049

I... Don't think i remember what part you're talking about

I... Don't think i remember what part you're talking about

Remember the table he showed though? :P Shimmer was probably supposed to fight when she went awal and wanted power.

Remember the table he showed though? :P Shimmer was probably supposed to fight when she went awal and wanted power.

She was already in Equestria before the passage way was opened again in the movie.

She was already in Equestria before the passage way was opened again in the movie.

@Cupcakes Rule But Sunset Shimmer wouldn't have been able to come back with the passage way to CHS was closed.

@Cupcakes Rule But Sunset Shimmer wouldn't have been able to come back with the passage way to CHS was closed.

True enough but i still think Sunset Shimmer was the shadow pony because when we first saw her she was in a cape and all you could really see was her horn and magic.

No, im sorry but it cant be Tirek because he has no pony form just a centaur and like how i said arms and hands the shadow pony appears to be a form of darkness and a pony form. So, im sorry but tirek cant be the shadow pony

@WarriorCatFan00 Yeah, i thought that, too.

@WarriorCatFan00 Yeah, i thought that, too.

Yep! Wait a minute.... Season 5 is on it's way isnt it? Doesn't that mean Sunset Shimmer was the villain of Season 4, correct?

Yep! Wait a minute.... Season 5 is on it's way isnt it? Doesn't that mean Sunset Shimmer was the villain of Season 4, correct?


The season 4 villain is Tirek. I know this comment this recent and when s video was made, season 4 hadn't come out year but I just wanted to say this is a wrong assumption and we still don't know who the shadow pony is.


Tirek because he had the cloak not only that, when he went to go blablabla, he had yellow bright gleamish eyes.


I came to the conclusion from another episode of your channel that Granny Smith has lived for over 1000 years


the shadow pony does have a hat. like trixies. but star swirl has a hat too and is more powerful. they did say the shadow pony is WISE and POWERFUL and DANGEROUS not that he was dangerous but he could of used a spell before he past to bring him alive, like trade his soul for an evil amulet to give him enternal life


The shadow pony is acually a pony that got abandoned by the powerful 6 (with starswirl) that got taken over by the shadow!!


Well, Starswirl was a genius, but an irresponsible one. I don't support the starswirl is discord theory bc he was the sisters' mentor until the very end. I don't know where I'm going with this...


I think that when discord was reformed the evil from him turned into the pony of shadows


the shadow pony does NOT have a horn, which means it's not a unicorn, and it's probably not a Pegasus either.


I Have A Theory!!!
  Star Swirl is discord, and some of Luna's magic had remained. So discord, possibly being caught by Luna's magic, due to his large amount of magic, were combined. Making a shadow pony, with a heart of darkness, and chaos!
           In other words: Strong Chaos magic + Dark, shadowy magic = Shadow pony, with horrible intentions,. (Possibly to scare other ponies in their dreams, so they can be awake in the night. And if they do not awake, their dreams will be haunted in chaos!)

I Have A Theory!!!
  Star Swirl is discord, and some of Luna's magic had remained. So discord, possibly being caught by Luna's magic, due to his large amount of magic, were combined. Making a shadow pony, with a heart of darkness, and chaos!
           In other words: Strong Chaos magic + Dark, shadowy magic = Shadow pony, with horrible intentions,. *(Possibly to scare other ponies in their dreams, so they can be awake in the night. And if they do not awake, their dreams will be haunted in chaos!)*

it is Terek because he was in his weakened form.

My theory!

Star Swirl the Bearded went back to retrieve the Alicorn Amulet because it's powers were way too powerful for anyPONY to control. So he wanted to get it back and keep it safe. He travelled to the present to get it back. The problem was that people would recognise him, so he wore a black cloak to conceal his identity.

What do you guys think of my theory? If you think I'm wrong or incorrect, please tell me I'm the comments.

dose he have yellow eyes i forgot if he dose i might be him!


I spent the first half of this video thinking he was talking about the Pony of Shadows


No. I learned it through three years of watching it and trying to figure out things I missed. Also there is this thing called princess trixie sparkle. Yes I said princess trixie sparkle.


What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he cannot be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does not mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

What is it with everyone and equating the Shadow Pony with Stygian? I get that he's referred to as 'the Shadow Pony', but he _cannot_ be the pony of shadows which appears in Castle Mane-ia - he was in Limbo at that time with no way to escape!

The writers have caused unnecessary confusion by calling Stygian 'the Shadow Pony', but that does _not_ mean he's the same character as the Shadow Pony from Castle Mane-ia.

Actually he said the shadow pony meaning the shadow in the episode not the pony of shadows

deilin101 yes the shadow pony is a REAL PONY

Don’t read this till you saw the episode

In the last two episodes we see What happens to StarSwirl and...Rock Hoof,Sunebula, The mask pony thing,Flash Magnus,And Mrs. Mane

deilin101 yup isn’t it a pony called stigeon?


I think Tirek is the "shadow pony". Watch the season 4 finale.


Trixie and the zebra thing probably use a spell of each other at the same time and confine


Maybe while star swirl was transforming into Discord he was a shadow and hid in the ruins of the castle


If nightmare moons magic all didn't disappear, then the left over magic shared onto the next pony in her castle to become shadow pony.


i agree with you my predictions were 11 months ago


starswirl the bearded and the  pillars banished the shadow pony and so they also disappered with him but starswirls spell was thousands year ago he put it on shadow pony and when twilight brought the pillars she brought the shawdow pony also and the shadow pony was stygian


I think that your theory is a good one. But, you should take a look at the ConspiraPon3 "Who is the pony of pony of shadows"


Am I the only one who thinks AJ looked adorable when she told RB "No pony knooows"


sombra is not dead , he is in the mechanis realm ( adeptus mechanis warhammer 40k)


i bet its still sombra.<br>though he was destroyed, if u notice , his horn is one of the last things to fly off from the explosion. meaning, that since sombras a shadow, and not all of him was probably destroyed, then maybe his horn landed in that castle where hes slowly regenerating. just a theory.

 i bet its still sombra.
though he was destroyed, if u notice , his horn is one of the last things to fly off from the explosion. meaning, that since sombras a shadow, and not all of him was probably destroyed, then maybe his horn landed in that castle where hes slowly regenerating. just a theory.

@TacoWolfDino If yo line up the pics of the first time you see Tirek and the shadow you see the layout is almost exactly the same. The hood, the little line that drops down at the end of the hood, the color of the eyes, even the hum on the back line up. Sorry but it's not sombra, unfortunately. I would like to see a villain that they thought was defeated comeback 4x as strong. That would be awesome :D

Well remember to get to the crystal empire from ponyville is to take a train so I hardly believe your theory is true

anyone have an accurate map of equestria lieing around? i am positive a blast like that could send an itty bitty horn pretty far...if we had a map and figured out the direction it flew only then can my theory be disproven.


The name "Shadow Pony" is more like Nightmare Moon's name. But Star Swirl is more suspicious. Becuse he dissapeard. Also he looks like the Shadow Pony...


what if somehow some pony might have absorbed that magic like how fluttershy absorbed the magic from the vampire bats.


Well, now we know that he isn’t discord or the pony of shadows, but none other than...


I know this is an old video is old but wtf?! i believe that Terek is the Shadow Pony. Everypony rembers what Terek looked like in his weakened form, small and hooded.And dose anypony remember the color of Terek's pupils? Yellow. I believe that Terek was out of Tartarus before anypony knew. He was still weak, so he came to the mortal realm to look for magic to consume, but was still too weak to conjur up the spell to take it. And too weak to remember that Twilight was a princess.


ok crazy thing here what if the shadow pony is a Guardian angel only there for well it's own personal things


Sombra might not be in anymore movies, BUT HE PROBABLY DIDN'T DIE!!!

Darth mall was cut in half and thrown down a big pit, but HE came back! Why not Sombra?


Guys It's Tirek! If you've watched the Season 4 Finale you'll know.


Could this mean that Starswirl helped Luna become Nightmare Moon?


what if the shadow pony isnt star swirl himself but this shadow could that be possible since star swirl has a lot of magic one of his spells could have gone wrong some how? just what i think


This video: exists
S7 final: Am i a joke to you?

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S7 final: Am i a joke to you?

@Obsidian_One1 The Obsidian No? where did you get that from-

this was 6 years ago your comment was 1 year ago season 4 finale didn't even come out when this video was made

Isn't shadow pony nightmares boyfriend 🤔


OK,ok first of all I would like to say that star swirl did work with celestia and Luna so why would he banished? Thank you that's what I wanted to say


Mayhaps it was Zecora AND Trixie! Playing a prank would be something they'd do..


it could be discords real body but his shadow is different because he might be involved with star swirl


I think the shadow pony is some kind of new villain in the next seasons... Maybe something related to Star Swirl...