Honestly dodie I feel the exact way as you and I want you to know that I love you a lot and that by sharing online you have helped me so much and I can't describe it in words but thank you so so much!


Love this video ❤ Hope you will both feel better soon.


I think you're very brave for talking about mental health like this and recognising the bad as well as the good that comes from opening up about it xx


💔💔💔 we love you and I completely understand what you mean when you say that you feel like no one's gong to get it   💜💜💜💜. You're one of the most  realistic youtubers I've ever watched and it's okay to be sad and to feel the way you do sometimes, it proves that you're human 💜💜💜💜💜. your videos helped me a lot with my mental health this year despite some bad stuff happening 💜💜💜love you dodie and Hazel xxxx


Sharing saved my life. This was always one-to-one, as I never had the same avenue you have.

If you don't say things out loud, the smallest thing can crush you. Speaking it out loud or writing it down can help you understanding things more and for me, make me take a step back from the edge.

There is a lot of people who look up to you and I am certain have overcome bad times thanks to your openness on mental health but with the amount you do share I have small fear that some will aim to mimic you thinking sad is the right way to feel. If you always find the positive in a shitty situation I am sure you could continue sharing as much as you do.


Dodie- I love you so much. And as a younger member of your audience, a lot of your videos have helped me navigate mental health and depression and do make me feel not alone. But I also relate to the way you deal with things and I find it hard to reach out when I am sick. The videos you make are amazing and destroy stigma, of course, but they can't also destroy you. Lots of hugs and cups of tea sent your way- I hope it gets better.


I love your friendship so much. I feel like you both support each other at your worst and best times


Dodie I am so happy you made and posted this video. I being part of your audience have thought these things. I love to know I am not along but I know ranting online isn't as fulfilling as talking to someone for real. I love seeing you on snap chat but maybe taking a break from snap chat and not having that as a way to vent, will possibly help you start to vent to your friends. Just a thought. I love you dodie and thanks for being so honest with your audience <3


I live my life in a perpetual black hole but I refuse to give in to the temptations. Dodie, your sharing and videos in general help my life to be just a little bit better and for that I thank you. TTFN


Even tho it may not be the best way to let your feelings out , I'm glad that u talk to us about it we love you , understand you and support you all the way ... YOU WILL GET BETTER 🌸❤ love u Dodie


I think it's really important to have social media to share your thoughts more, just add some trigger warnings. There are people put there that need to hear that someone else is going through the same things as them. I'm very new to the channel but I appreciate the amount of honesty here. Sorry this was long but I hope you feel better Dodie ❤


I find you sharing your mental health helpfull, as it gives me perspective on the subject. But I think that at this point you're actually doing more for your audience than you are for yourself. With that said, you're amazing.


I feel this video so so much and the feelings that you constantly share in videos on youtube and on other social media (mainly snapchat).  As someone who is really struggling with depression and anxiety right now in my life, I just want to say I really appreciate these types of videos.  I have tried distracting myself with countless things to try and make me "better", everything from reading or painting to watching Thomas Sanders and puppy videos.  Although I do enjoy these things, it just feels like I'm forcing myself to be happy because that's "normal" and nobody wants to be friends with the sad depressed girl who doesn't want to hang out because she can't get out of her bed.  I've stopped trying to force myself to be happy and I've watched hours of video from countless creators on youtube talking about anxiety and depression and I feel like it's helped me??  It's nice to know that there are other people out there who are also going through these things and are real functioning humans that I look up to.  Mental health is something that I find really hard to talk about with friends because I feel like such a burden and I'm scared that my friends would treat me different, like I'm some sort of porcelain doll that has to be handled oh so carefully or else she'll shatter into a million pieces.  I recently made a painting full of twenty one pilots lyrics that happen to be very depressing (it is TOP after all).  After my parents saw this, they both separately came to talk about it with me.  They are both concerned that I am suicidal (which I'm not, but sometimes I do think it would be easier for everything to go away - not life to go away, just this thing in my head that's not me that is controlling the way I think and feel).  On days where I feel like it could never in a million years get better and feel like I'll never be happy again, someone showing me how perfect their life is won't help me but someone being real and expressing what their going through and putting what I feel like into words means more than the world to me.  I know that it's not very healthy for someone to be delving into these bad thoughts when they're already abundant in their own mind, but I also think it's not healthy to ignore it or try and force yourself to feel something.  Feelings should be realized and understood, not pushed to the side and covered up.  Sorry this is a terribly long comment, I got carried away.  Thank you, dodie, for making me feel valid and not completely insane.


This video was both lovely and kind of heartbreaking but I just wanted to say what Zannah did was very, very brave. I've been in the position where someone was doing similar things to Dodie and sharing really scary details of their mental health with me when I was a lot younger and not capable of dealing with it. It's difficult to challenge your friends but the fact that Zannah did is impressive and a sign she's a great friend. I wish I'd had the courage to do that earlier as well..


Dodie and Hazel we love you 💛💛 I never felt that you shared too much about mental health! It helps us feel less alone and brings awareness. You do you :) Also as a side note (even though you may not see this post) I find it inspiring that you are able to open up to friends about how you feel. That's something I wish I could do so often. 💛


"More on that later"? That's good. Just know that it seems like a thing you should cut back on, instead of cutting it out of your life entirely. We still want to hear about what's wrong when you're struggling so we can help, even when you talk to your friends about it! When you tell us, we can relate to things strongly and feel positive emotions/satisfaction from that. It does help, it really does. Thanks for everything dodie, we love you.


DODIE YOU ARE SUCH A PURE SOUL! I HOPE YOU FEEL MUCH BETTER REAL SOON!!


This gave me such a good perspective. Maybe it's because I'm young (14 lol), but I've never registered Dodie's sharing stuff online as unhealthy. I've always thought of it as kind of her way of getting her thoughts out. This shows what happens when you do this instead of talking to real people. I'm guilty of tweeting something grim when I'm feeling down about something instead of talking to my friends, and this was a nice reminder that my friends are there for me, and I should talk to them instead of talking about it online. I also think this video was great at showcasing the whole "behind the camera" mentally; that YouTubers are real people who have problems and friends and issues we don't see.  Lastly, what you say online will have real life consequences because you're sharing it with people, not just a camera. (Sorry that was long, just had a lot of thoughts)


dodie, im going to say all of this because i hope itll help

over the past five years ive developed anxiety, depression, and depersonalization. and im not over exaggerating when saying this, but you really have saved my life so many times. until you shared your experiences with mental health, i thought i was completely alone. then i found your videos and all of these people who are going through the same things. its a never ending battle, but i know ill get through it as long as i have you dodie. all of your fans love you more than anything and we will support you with whatever you do. in order to get through the rough spots you need to start trying to trust your friends who love you very much. i know you want to trust them and go to them, but its hard sometimes. you have to just do it believing that you wont be judged. getting it out is always better than keeping it to yourself. and technically you arent keeping it to yourself by putting how you feel on snapchat and insta and youtube, but when youre doing that youre alone in your room saying it in your head. most people who see your snapchat are all supportive and love you very much, but some just dont understand. you know that theres always a possibility of being judged online, which is why you need to start funneling these feelings into something or someone that you know wont judge you at all. i love seeing your snaps and knowing how youre doing and relating to you, and id still love to see some of that. i just think you need to start learning how to trust your friend who love you and want to help you thrive. i love you so so so much and always remember that we are here for whatever you do always. XOXOXO


I always enjoy your videos. Every one of them.   I've never thought you were sharing too much. It's your head and your life and you have a right to share whatever it is you wish to. I have a hard time seeing why that's bothersome to anyone ? I deal with mental breakdowns regularly, but I don't find it triggering to hear anyone else's experience.
Also, I never found you to be terribly depressing. In the sense that, you never talk completely negative about your head. You're just honest. And one more thing! Ha I think the videos of you sitting down and talking about what's going on in your head is
1.) a really great way to process emotions
2.) a great visual representation of what it looks like to process emotions.
Because a lot of people don't know how to.

Point being: don't be too hard on yourself. Share however much you want if it's helpful and if it's not then don't.
Be kind to you 🌸


why am i crying in the club right now i love you both so much <3


I don't suffer from mental illness like many people who watch your videos, but I think it's incredible that you make these videos showing what it's really like. It makes mental illness be seen by those who may have never taken it seriously. Thank you for making videos even if you aren't feeling up to it, it shows me that you really give it your all and I appreciate that so much.


dodie I love your snapchats. they make me feel like I'm normal and that my negative feelings are ok! please don't ever feel like you are making a mistake putting them online. I know it can be sad for people to see but I love it because you make me feel like my feelings are valid and that its ok to cry and feel shot. love you dodie 😜😘😘


dodie your videos are super SUPER important to me, they always feel so personal and that I'm talking to a friend (I'm not talking to the screen when I watch your videos, that would be weird.. please understand what I mean? Now I look odd) and I hope you get the help and support you need and deserve as well as the rest of us here. I just want you to know that your songs are uplifting, they're nice to listen to on sunny days, rainy days, even gloomy days as they always perk me up a little. I totally admire the attitude you have or at least portray to your audience and I'm over the moon that you're comfortable enough to share how you're feeling to help not only yourself, but your audience and the work towards breaking the stigma around mental health. Having said that, I do hope that you begin to feel comfortable opening to those closest to you before you feel the need to share it on social media, but whatever works best for you works best for you. love love love and very much appreciate you xoxoxox


Great video, really important wonderful discussion. It's great that you have such wonderful friends, who support you but also are ready to have difficult conversations.


hi dodie, i've been a supporter of yours for two years now and i absolutely love and care about you. about 8 months ago i unfortunately had to unfollow you on twitter, instagram, and have avoided your snapchats due to your oversharing and how triggering it is for me to read. i am terribly sorry you are going through such a hard time, but i think it's also good to take in consideration how your posts could be affecting others that aren't in a good headspace as well. i'm sorry if that came off as harsh, i truly do not mean it to. i do genuinely love you and love watching your videos, i hope someday soon i can re-follow you on social media and finally get to see your cute face and posts on my feed again. i wish you so much love and happiness dodie.


As a person that spends a lot of time doing creative work I find that I usually tend to deform my reality too much, I'm in constant contact with my feelings and that can make me question things that the majority of people normally wouldn't. Or maybe I'm just too dramatic, idk🤷


Honestly, this was a good video, you and Hazel were real(also I think Hazel was a brilliant choice to have in this video.) I've always wanted to be someone like you, Dodie, someone who's so open about their feelings to the public, but I'm not, I'm really not. I'm like Hazel, don't like to talk about it even tho I know I really should, I just can't shake the little bubble in my brain reminding me that I can and will survive on my own.
I do understand why you share a lot online, it's kinda the same when writers just write or artists draw, it's a creative outlet for you to express how you are and get all of the shit out your brain without having to actually deal with it, it makes things clear an make sense but you never have to acknowledge it, never have to do anything more than bring it into the light for a while and then never do anything with it, like your friend said, it's empty calories. Makes you feel great for a while but never really helps
anyways great video, love to see more like this in the future.


As Hazel says towards the end, but in the form of a musical reference - "If life were made of moments, even now and then a bad one, but if life were only moments, then you'd never know you had one." Words to live by.


something that i love and really recommend is an app called moodtrack which i use as a diary. you give your mood a number of stars out of 5 and give it a title and explain it. i know how much dodie loves to write and if you have a really deep one that you’d rather not share online or think it’s best not to spread to your large audience, you can use this because it still posts so it’s still the same feeling that you get however as long as you make your username completely random, it’s anonymous but still public. sometimes other people can ‘heart’ or comment on your mood and it’s just a lovely way to also look back and i love reading my higher rated moods back because it reminds me that those good times happened. xx i love you both, i hope you consider trying it even just for a week or so with at least a mood a day or whenever you fancy xx

omg cool! i will look that up - thank you :) x


this is such an honest and true video. i too, watch dodie's snapchat's a lot. and i feel like its a bit a a relief to know her friends see these things she says. i always watched and wondered "do her friends know? are they ok with this? are they helping her?" and i felt bad wondering. but i am glad your friends are fully aware of what you are posting and while i'm so so happy dodie is so open with mental health its good to know that you need boundaries with what you say. never the less, i hope things are going well for you dodie. your music has helped me through a lot. thank you.


I appreciate the honesty and though this isn't really answering the description, I don't feel like it's always necessary to end on a positive note. It seems like a horribly worded summary denying what's already been said. It's not ending on a negative note, you're ending on a realistic one. Thank you both for being real ☺


Dodie, what video recording supplies(camera, lens, microphone, etc) do you use?


We love you Hazel!
We love you Dodie!
❤💜💛💚❤💜💛💚


It's great when people such as yourself help to create a safe space for yourself and other people to open up about what is actually wrong rather than doing the age-old thing of passing it off as being tired etc. Take your time Dodie, we only want you to do as much as you are comfortable with and if that means your don't post for a while that is absolutely fine, but please use the time to try and help yourself feel better. I know you can't just wake up one day and 'feel better', but doing little things that make you get out of bed and not want to cry, and getting help from loved ones may help you, and will help people who think that they can't get better. Stay safe, drink water, and know that we love you xxx


as much as I love ya, I do kind of have to agree with the message your friend sent you. I absolutely believe that everyone needs and outlet and we need to break down the stigma, but I do find myself skipping through you snapchat stories because sometimes it can be a bit much and a bit difficult to watch (as someone who deals with mental health probs)


i like graphic descriptions of things, no matter how depressing because it helps me grasp how you're feeling or other people are feeling. it makes empathizing with other people easier for me and i don't have a "line" where i go "that's too much" or "that's too heavy".
i myself don't know how to explain my bad feelings in words, so when someone explains something to me really graphically, it helps me understand them better.
so for me, i really don't care how much detail you go into dodie.❤


I am not diagnosed of any mental illness even though i sometimes find myself feeling like you in your snap stories. I wouldn't self diagnose myself like that though. But even so I have a few friends that are diagnosed with mental illnesses and they never feel like they can open up and tell me how they feel and when I watch your Snapchats about how your feeling I can use that as a semi gadge to have some form of a platform to help my friends even when they don't actually ask for it. Your openness about your feelings have helped myself and my friends get through many a hard time and even if we may just be fans watching your videos we are also people that if you are ever at rock bottom people to talk to and release the bottled up emotion. And all of us would agree that if you ever needed to talk to someone who has no idea what's going on and has a clean slate and unbiased opinion you could talk to anyone of us for help!!! Keep going and keep yourself up! We are all here for you when you need us!! ❤❤


it's so difficult and we don't know why
but we keep going because happy moments make it worth being alive
- i hope that's true for everyone
and if it isn't then seek to find those moments
to let yourself feel the relief that you're still alive.
you're all worthy of life because you exist.
<3


You two are so fucking wonderful. A bit mad. But fucking wonderful. Thank you so much for just kinda talking about this. I hope you'll be better soon, just remember that you are loved and appreciated and looked up to and loved and loved and loved. It will get better and it will be fine. Love you both. And thank you again, I really needed that. xx


In answer to your questions, I think constantly speaking on how low you feel can feed itself into making you feel worse. Like, this constant cycle of "I'm feeling shitty" turns into "I'm always going to feel shitty and here's the proof." And that doesn't mean you should bottle things up or pretend you're feeling better than you do. But rather than posting a video or a tweet or an Instagram post, having someone to talk to one on one--actually having a direct conversation with another living human being can help diffuse things. Like, obviously there are times when you don't want to talk to anybody and I get that completely. But other times, when you're feeling extremely lonely or in need of validation, having someone you love give that to you and tell you they care rather than just posting something that's like "I FEEL ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE AND NOTHING IS GOOD" can work wonders on your immediate emotional state. I can remember at least a hundred times that talking to friends when I'm feeling extremely depressed has made me feel like a functioning person again.

Feeling embarrassed or like no one cares is something that I think a lot of people feel when it comes to mental health, and I think that's why I'm so grateful for talk-therapy because they're not my friend or my family. They're a separate third party that you're paying to listen to you and offer advice and it's so helpful to have that because you don't have to worry that they "don't care" or that you're "boring" them. Like, that's what they're there for? They studied and got a degree to help people. And obviously not every therapist you try is gonna fit you and also not everyone can afford therapy, it's a privilege I wish everyone had. I just mean, if you can try, it's a road I think you should go down.

On the topic of "romanticizing" depression, I always think about how talking about how helpless depression can make people feel eventually turned into "I'm never getting better and you, random person on the internet, telling me I can is ableist and completely disregards how serious my condition is. I'm going to sit in my house and never go outside and watch t.v. all time. And all you weirdos who like interacting with other people are now the butt of a joke I'm about to post on twitter." I especially saw this thought process a lot on tumblr and eventually people started speaking out about it because they were like "Well, I have depression too and I hate it and I want to get better and refuse to believe I can't." And speaking on how important recovery and treatment is. And it was so nice to see the other side of this very toxic mentality that people who are depressed or mentally ill can't do anything about it and have to suffer their worst depressive pits every day. When that's not true. And small things like opening a window or doing one load of laundry or calling your friend for 20 minutes can improve your day and help you.

So I don't necessarily think that you've ever posted anything that gave me the impression you were romanticizing depression, I've just thought you have been extremely low and haven't felt like anything you've tried has been working and it's just made you more depressed. Which is a very real experience. I just don't know if posting Instagram posts with super long description about how awful you feel is truly benefiting you.

Anyways, sorry for the long response! This was just very interesting to hear and bad mental health is something I and most of all my friends deal with so I'm invested. Hope you find some good advice from your friends/the comment section! <3


I think having an open convo about it is important and sharing does help. I think the really dangerous thing about it is projecting the hopelessness around it? Like it's really relatable and it's nice to see other people deal with it. But hearing it feels scary. Both if you can relate cos you're in that place or if you aren't at the time but it's something you experience as a part of your illness it can be triggering (?) I think most of the worry shouldn't be for your audience it should be about how you're coping and finding your healthy alternatives and trying not to enable your own illness. (( that statement is maybe only applicable to me as I'm in ED recovery where you have to spend a lot of time not engaging w behaviours, not sure if it's applicable to other things )) . But also I'm not a young teen and in recovery so maybe less at risk to the talk about the hopelessness around recovery etc. <br>Take care of yourself first!! It's really fucking hard but what else can you do. ❤❤

I think having an open convo about it is important and sharing does help. I think the really dangerous thing about it is projecting the hopelessness around it? Like it's really relatable and it's nice to see other people deal with it. But hearing it feels scary. Both if you can relate cos you're in that place or if you aren't at the time but it's something you experience as a part of your illness it can be triggering (?) I think most of the worry shouldn't be for your audience it should be about how you're coping and finding your healthy alternatives and trying not to enable your own illness. (( that statement is maybe only applicable to me as I'm in ED recovery where you have to spend a lot of time not engaging w behaviours, not sure if it's applicable to other things )) . But also I'm not a young teen and in recovery so maybe less at risk to the talk about the hopelessness around recovery etc.
Take care of yourself first!! It's really fucking hard but what else can you do. ❤❤


Damn this is so deep. I have no words except this video is very important and I feel like people really need to watch this.


I want to thank you for sharing your life and your feelings. It makes me feel like I'm not alone. I love you so much.


I think it's really interesting the point made about tweeting out into the void, and then, if someone texts feeling stupid for not texting that person directly- it is something that I used to struggle with because I was so wrapped up in the "show don't tell" mentality, or feeling too much of a burden to somebody if I text them outright. But after a lot of "life" happening, and then a lot of therapy, I worked out how unhealthy it was. I didn't need validation from strangers, and reaching out for help ended up solving a lot more problems, whereas the tweets/ snapchat stories would cause more issues because the people around me would feel guilty- I'm sorry if this is really rambly and non-sensicle, I just really wanted to say it before I forgot it! <br>But anyway, you are both human. And you are both enough <3

I think it's really interesting the point made about tweeting out into the void, and then, if someone texts feeling stupid for not texting that person directly- it is something that I used to struggle with because I was so wrapped up in the "show don't tell" mentality, or feeling too much of a burden to somebody if I text them outright. But after a lot of "life" happening, and then a lot of therapy, I worked out how unhealthy it was. I didn't need validation from strangers, and reaching out for help ended up solving a lot more problems, whereas the tweets/ snapchat stories would cause more issues because the people around me would feel guilty- I'm sorry if this is really rambly and non-sensicle, I just really wanted to say it before I forgot it!
But anyway, you are both human. And you are both enough <3


I recommend something that has helped my mental health, when I'm on that half okay level, I go to my notes and I make a list of things that make me happy. Put some doable things on there, so when you are feeling down, go to that list. Of course I know that sometimes when you are down you don't want to even get out of bed, but maybe your bed is something that makes you happy and you write it down on your list. I have a tendency of hiding my feelings behind a smile, but lately I've been using my list and keeping my hopes up for my former happy self to come back. I hope this helps, cause I tried :)


Honestly I respect you for sharing how you feel and being open to your audience but sometimes I feel that you're in danger of your depression/depersonalisation almost becoming your "brand" which really isn't healthy at all.  I think it's amazing that you're raising awareness for mental health issues and helping your audience feel understood but it sometimes comes across as though you've got yourself into this spiral of "I can't get better" or "I'm never going to feel happy again" which is what depression feeds off.  I think sometimes by sharing these thoughts through social media instead of somebody face to face you make yourself feel even more alone which in turn makes you more depressed so you continue to share eventually causing a vicious cycle and because of this constant sharing people might begin to just see you as "the youtuber with mental health issues". Obviously this hasn't happened yet but it's quite worrying that this is a possibility and will inevitably cause your mental health to deteriorate further.  Maybe try taking a day off from social media when you're feeling particularly down and force yourself to chat to a friend and if you're feeling up to it go for a coffee or something with them just do something that breaks you out of that extremely damaging cycle.  I know how hard it is dealing with mental health trust me.  Sending my love to you I hope you at least begin to feel a little happier soon


Everything I've tweeted at you has literally came out in this video. But the creation and mental illness thing i think is wrong. We create because we can, because if we do not, who else is going to show someone else who is down that there is beauty in darkness and that the light is still there. You just have to fuel the fire with an objective persistence that continues in the present moment. The past is good to talk about but creating a story from feelings, putting in things that have happened to you with new emotion makes it widely better... But what do I know? I'm no-one. <br>Hope you feel better.

Everything I've tweeted at you has literally came out in this video. But the creation and mental illness thing i think is wrong. We create because we can, because if we do not, who else is going to show someone else who is down that there is beauty in darkness and that the light is still there. You just have to fuel the fire with an objective persistence that continues in the present moment. The past is good to talk about but creating a story from feelings, putting in things that have happened to you with new emotion makes it widely better... But what do I know? I'm no-one.
Hope you feel better.


I love how you think about this sort of thing! Just remember to do what is healthy for you.

It even rhymes so you know that that's true.


i wish i could say something else than "oh i hope u two get better soon, ily" but im not myself and im not in the best place to give any advice atm so yeah. but please dont stop sharing if it makes you feel more liberated or less alone; you can count on your audience AND your friends and family, there doesn't have to be necessarily a limit but u need to give priority to the close ones who are  willing to help you; you can't just put everything out on social media and expect everyone to realize that you're not doing well, talk to your friends, tell them what's going on in your head. They might not help, but at least you know they're there for you, and with time you maybe find it easier to talk to them than to a camera, and that's how things should actually work. ily bab dont disappear again pls


Regardless of anything, just opening up this topic shows a lot of self awareness which is really inspiring and I think what makes people maybe more ready to engage in a positive way which is great. I think one of the things about the constant pooling of the bad things into the public sphere is that it can act like a checklist. Like you've said before how you'll wake up and ask "am I depressed today", I think sometimes to hear you describe certain ways your feeling can lead to a viewer like myself to check in and sometimes conclude that they too are feeling that way. I don't think anyone doubts that your openness helps us feel less isolated but I think Hazel's right in that that shouldn't always come from the absolute worst place.

With the "empty calories" as well, there is this issue of letting the bad stuff out but no then positive development from there, meaning that all there is is bad. I know you might of had some attempts with CBT and they may or may not have helped, but I know for myself working on countering the negative with some positive helps to if not break the cycle then lessen its hold. Even if it's not something formal, or using an app like HeadSpace or FeelStressFree by Thrive (both great apps), I will do something like mind map all my fears and anxieties, and then counter that with a map of my hopes and comforts. But obviously different things work for different people which is why talking to friends, who can often relate even when it feels they can't, and professionals can help. Hope this helps someone :)


I believe it seems as if more creators suffer from mental illnesses because they have some sort of platform or outlet to share. Many many people suffer from anxiety, depression, and depersonalization in any occupation but we hear about it from creators because they are the only few who have a public voice and an occupation that relies on sharing their life experiences.


I love you so much and personally find your videos really helpful in the way that in find them super relatable.


i feel like i can relate to this in a different way (if that makes any sense lol). whenever im feeling mental, or whatever you wanna call it, i go to my one friend and just vent to her. i had kept going to her because 1) everyone else i tried to talk to laughed at me and 2) she was so helpful and nice about it. im truly afraid that she'll feel like im only using her for this.

(did i just overshare online? oh well, fuck it)


I have anxiety and depression and I understand completely. Sometimes I lay in my bed for days without realizing it but I'm trying to get better and turn it around. I know I'm just a fan but if you ever need to talk with someone who understands I'm willing ☺ 💛


I completely understand where you're coming from Dodes, especially with feeling like nobody else understands you -- but, the [ironically] depressing thing is that my wake-up call to this was my [shitty] ex-bf telling me that I'm too stubborn to believe that anybody can help/understand me, because I think I'm the only person who gets me and/or knows what life is like in these situations. Obviously that's not true, because clearly even people like you and other YouTubers and friends of mine can relate to Dissociation and Depression and Anxiety on different levels; BUT, it's also incredibly important to know that just because people aren't in your exact shoes, it doesn't mean that they aren't capable of understanding, or just being there to listen. Sometimes even talking doesn't always help like you think it should, but it's the awareness your close friends/family have that's important, you know? *shitty analogy coming up* So, say you're in a shoe shop and you're trying on some swaggy heels: someone else is trying on the same heels but in a different size -- you can both still admire the snazzy heels for what they are, despite your difference in shoe size. -Equally so, someone else might be trying on some edgy vans next to you, but you can notice each other's taste and the fact that you're both trying on shoes. [Sorry for that cringe aha]

   In terms of your content, both on YouTube and social media like Snapchat or Instagram, really just do whatever you decide is best. I wouldn't like to think of you sat in your bedroom at 3am not talking about how shit you feel, just suffering in silence -- but equally so, I do agree that the specificity and duration of such content will inevitably have different effects on the people watching. If you can develop yourself to become more comfortable talking to friends/family/professional shrinks, then that's probably the healthiest/best way forward for you especially, as well as others.

   I similarly completely get the whole concept of telling the world what's going on, as being easier and more enticing in terms of those 'empty calories': I even used to say to people how I never liked 'writing my feelings down', because it never felt like I was talking to anybody, and it'd never get noticed or feel recognised. Maybe as a smaller step forward, you could still take videos etc. of your feelings at the time, but not upload them/save them instead, or maybe create a little folder of your own of all the time when you do feel this way - then having documented it all for any time you might want to reflect on it [or throw it away!].
-If you want the feeling of just shouting at the world, maybe look for free online counsellors/listeners [though they might seem annoying aha]- or send that tweet but then delete it a few seconds later. I mean, it's all really dependent on how everyone else feels about it. It's a move forward that you're reducing stigma and fear around Mental Health, but equally a complication for some when they don't know what to do or how to react to seeing your true feelings.

Anyways, I'm 99% sure you won't even read this so r.i.p to you if you actually did(!), but love you Dodie and hope that you can find more peace in yourself and others around you, and even though we know you'll get through this shit, never feel like you're worth anything less than everything. <3 xox

I completely understand where you're coming from Dodes, especially with feeling like nobody else understands you -- but, the [ironically] depressing thing is that my wake-up call to this was my [shitty] ex-bf telling me that I'm too stubborn to believe that anybody can help/understand me, because I think I'm the only person who gets me and/or knows what life is like in these situations. Obviously that's not true, because clearly even people like you and other YouTubers and friends of mine can relate to Dissociation and Depression and Anxiety on different levels; BUT, it's also incredibly important to know that just because people aren't in your exact shoes, it doesn't mean that they aren't *capable* of understanding, or just being there to listen. Sometimes even talking doesn't always help like you think it should, but it's the awareness your close friends/family have that's important, you know? **shitty analogy coming up** So, say you're in a shoe shop and you're trying on some swaggy heels: someone else is trying on the same heels but in a different size -- you can both still admire the snazzy heels for what they are, despite your difference in shoe size. -Equally so, someone else might be trying on some edgy vans next to you, but you can notice each other's taste and the fact that you're both trying on shoes. [Sorry for that cringe aha]

   In terms of your content, both on YouTube and social media like Snapchat or Instagram, really just do whatever you decide is best. I wouldn't like to think of you sat in your bedroom at 3am *not* talking about how shit you feel, just suffering in silence -- but equally so, I do agree that the specificity and duration of such content will inevitably have different effects on the people watching. If you can develop yourself to become more comfortable talking to friends/family/professional shrinks, then that's probably the healthiest/best way forward for you especially, as well as others.

   I similarly completely get the whole concept of telling the world what's going on, as being easier and more enticing in terms of those 'empty calories': I even used to say to people how I never liked 'writing my feelings down', because it never felt like I was talking to anybody, and it'd never get noticed or feel recognised. Maybe as a smaller step forward, you could still take videos etc. of your feelings at the time, but not upload them/save them instead, or maybe create a little folder of your own of all the time when you do feel this way - then having documented it all for any time you might want to reflect on it [or throw it away!].
--If you want the feeling of just shouting at the world, maybe look for free online counsellors/listeners [though they might seem annoying aha]-- or send that tweet but then delete it a few seconds later. I mean, it's all really dependent on how everyone else feels about it. It's a move forward that you're reducing stigma and fear around Mental Health, but equally a complication for some when they don't know what to do or how to react to seeing your true feelings.

Anyways, I'm 99% sure you won't even read this so r.i.p to you if you actually did(!), but love you Dodie and hope that you can find more peace in yourself and others around you, and even though we know you'll get through this shit, never feel like you're worth anything less than everything. <3 xox


Hey, a few tips for getting those empty calories in a crisis without putting out smth you regret or making someone uncomfortable !!

1. SAM is an "anxiety tracker" app so you can measure how you're feeling and keep track of how you're doing relative to other hard months or years (helps me because I'm a visual learner so looking at a little graph is nice)
2. You can record and edit a video without posting it! It's a good way to get yourself feeling productive and also put your thoughts out there. (Also works to just record a video on your phone if you talking)
3. The dawn room (which is also a great resource during a bad time) has an offshoot called the quiet place where you can type all your feeling out and it will have the words slowly fade away which really helps clear your mind a bit.


I think it's only too much when you feel uncomfortable with sharing. For you personally it maybe unhealthy, you should only share if you have something else to fall back on for support. But for your audience, I love hearing your mind. That's why I'm so excited for your book; you're the one and your posts help me figure myself out and my mind out and have a grasp on my own situation with depression.


This is a hard subject to have an opinion on- I personally feel like when you tell us how you are truly feeling you are supporting other people who feel the same( like me) to feel less alone. However, newer viewers could feel influenced by the way their idols feel and might 'want' to feel the same? Younger fans might not know how to react to it and stuff... I don't know... Yeah


I have depression and an anxiety disorder and I think my biggest insecurity about reaching out for help is that whatever I'm dealing with at that moment isn't 'big' enough or 'bad' enough<br>I feel like it will look like I'm crying wolf and then one day I'll 'actually' need help and no one will believe me or think there's anything wrong...

I have depression and an anxiety disorder and I think my biggest insecurity about reaching out for help is that whatever I'm dealing with at that moment isn't 'big' enough or 'bad' enough
I feel like it will look like I'm crying wolf and then one day I'll 'actually' need help and no one will believe me or think there's anything wrong...


I think you should start a podcast. It's a better medium for having these kind of long form discussions. This video was very helpful and productive. You have a good friend in Hazel and especially in Zannah. Hold closely to them :) From one mental to the other, I wish you the best!


This is the 3rd time I've tried to write a comment. I'm broken at the moment too. Reaching out is hard. I used to be really bad for posting how I was feeling online but then I realised that people were put off being around me because of that so I stopped. Until recently I've not really had friends I could talk to about things and I still struggle to reach out now. I tend to only reach out if I can't take being on my own with things anymore (when my head goes to that I don't wanna do life anymore place).. I wish it was easier to reach out. I guess it's something we all just have to be brave and learn how to do. The internet isn't the best place to put your emotions when you're in those emotions. When you're in a place where you can think rationally sharing how you were feeling and why can be helpful for others to see but I think when you're in that place putting it online isn't going to make it better it's just making you more vulnerable. Just my thoughts. I hope you're both able to find your strength to reach out to friends when you need it <3 (I usually send a message that says "are you busy" which is my way of saying I'm broken please help put me back together or at least prop me up so I can human slightly more effectively)


you should definitely try to write things down on paper instead of online! this is less permanent and it will be easier to face ppl again without the embarrassment of sharing it with everyone x


love you dodie and i like up dates on how you are cause i dont have social media and i can relate to some things


If someone sent me the message Zannah sent you, I would be soooo upset and embarrassed. It would kill me. I'm glad you were able to see it in a positive light.


Dodie. You are a truely inspiring person. Your honesty and sharing inspires people, making people realize they're not alone in this depression and mental health world is good. To know that their icon isn't always happy and can tell mental health from happiness apart. To know they can find a honest YouTuber who can relate to them is amazing. It's amazing how honest you are and it makes people realize anything. Thank you.


i have recently been seeing a counselor every other week for anxiety, but i started feeling really off and just overall not myself, and i had no fucking clue what it was. i told my counselor and it turns out i have depression, and it sucks. i think it's good to talk about it, though. i think it's great that you have all of these people on the internet to talk to, but you have to remember you have friends too. you can talk about it on social media, but i think that you should talk to your friends if you want to go into detail and stuff. i don't know i just think that sometimes on social media people can be sensitive to that kind of stuff, and although it's good to be real, it can be very intense to some people. just remember that although your friends may not understand, if they care about you they'll do anything they can to make you feel better. if you want to talk to someone with a better understanding of depression, try reaching out to a therapist (if you haven't already) or if you have friends going through the same thing as you maybe you can talk to them (i'm not saying only find friends with mental illnesses so they understand you, that would be absurd). also, social media can often be overwhelming and a bad place for certain people sometimes, especially when you're in the public eye, so if you want to take a break for a little while, just know we'll support you every step of the way and all we want is for you to feel better. i love you dodie and i wish you the best.


I was thinking about you the other day. And how happy you would be if we managed to get your songs on somewhere like radio 1. Cuz you deserve it. So if anyone knows how to do that please try 😂💖💖


This video makes me feel like I'm not alone.


about the chicken+eggs question of depression+creativity, here's a quote from my favourite book "Walden" by Henry David Thoreau to help explain why we create art: "The best works of art are the expression of man's struggle to free himself from this condition, but the effect of our art is merely to make this low state comfortable and that higher state to be forgotten."


I'm not the best person to talk about mental health, as I'm not suffering from any illness, I do have bad brain days sometimes, but reading your instagram posts and tweets made me realise that it's nothing compared to what you and a lot of other people have to deal with. However, I live with Crohn's disease for more than two years now, and it helped me immensely during the early days after the diagnosis, when I tried to cope with the illness, that a certain somenone called Shannon Barry shared her experiences with Crohn's online. She was very open about everything, some might call that oversharing, but what I know is that it played a big part in my mental recovery, and that it prevented me from falling into a very dark place. This might be completely unrelated, because it's not about mental health, but I thought it can't hurt if I share it.
So what I'm trying say is that to a lot of people, you sharing your experiences might be really helpful :)
And an other thing, it maybe only me, because I'm the "emotional sponge" kind of friend, but  when I read your particularly sad tweets, I always feel a bit helpless. I know that's stupid, considering the fact that I don't know you, and I can't possibly help in any way, it's just really heartbreaking to see someone hurting so much, I think it's natural that I (and probably most of your audience) feel like reaching out an saying something that might make it better, and knowing that it's not possible is sad. It's like wanting to help a friend who has problems, although I know it's not the same, because like I said before, I don't know you personally. It's like a less intense version of that feeling, still, it can make me feel a bit helpless. I'm sorry that I'm rambling for so long, I hope that what I'm trying to say is clear (if it's not, then I'll just put the blame on english not being my first language) You probably won't see this anyway, I just felt like I needed to write this down. If you do see this for some reason, I hope you get better <3


Regarding the link between being mentally ill and being creative, Neil Hilborn wrote in one of his poems: 'I think the genes for being an artist and being mentally ill aren't just related, they're the same gene...' <br>just something to think about..

Regarding the link between being mentally ill and being creative, Neil Hilborn wrote in one of his poems: 'I think the genes for being an artist and being mentally ill aren't just related, they're the same gene...'
just something to think about..


Aaaaah I really love this id really like to make a video reply sending love and talking about chronic illness as well. But I don't have the energy. Nature of the beast I guess lol. Anyway you guys are great ❤


For me, I've gotten to the point where I'm not feeling anything but I don't know what that means. I can't tell whether it's a good thing or bad thing, I'm so confused about my mental health right now!


I don't think you over share if it's something that helps you and you truly want to do it. It becomes oversharing when the results are more harm than help or you feel like you don't want to but have to talk about something. Zannah gave you some wonderful advice and I hope you go to her for advice about more things 💜💜💜


i loved this video so much xx thanks for being you xx i love you both


Gosh there's SO much in here I want to respond to, but here's two thoughts:
1. Reaching out to friends is harder, but typically much more satisfying and healthy. Usually, the more difficult something is, the more it's worth doing. Maybe have a code word for starting the conversation so it doesn't come on so heavy?
2. Creatives tend to be more mentally ill? I think it's a lot harder for creators to have structure in their life. Structure and a regular schedule is incredibly helpful for healthy mental health. John Green has chatted about this a bit, I think. It's easier to create within a structure even though we're not beings who typically like structure (creative). It's still incredibly important for us!

love you dear xx


Interesting, I don't share anything like that online so I guess I'm the total opposite.

But while I do talk to friends, I often worry that I'm oversharing or bombarding them with all this stuff from inside my head on a one to one level - so in a roundabout way it boils down to the same problem, just in a different situation. I have no answers but I do hope both of you start feeling better soon 🙃


I do think hazels idea of not posting when you're super low, only when you're semi-ok so that you have a better filter on is a good idea. That being said I think your videos about mental health are super helpful to tons of people either not feeling alone or helping them understand what mental illness is better. I don't think there is a perfect balance. Maybe filming when you're at your low but editing later and making sure it's like... idk, something you think would be helpful not harmful?


I'm really glad you addressed this
Because I do look up to you but some things you post are out of the blue and triggering
I sometimes feel glad because I'm like "someone understands!" But then other times it's like "someone understands TOO much.." idk if that made sense


write down what youre thinking/feeling first, show it to your friends, then share it to your audience after choosing what you do and do not want to show


while watching this you singing michael in the bathroom from BMC and lifeboat from heathers popped into my head and now i can't get it out


It's my birthday, so thanks for updating Dodie! :D


it's so weird cos my friend (and i am kinda) going through the same thing where we'll post stuff on twitter and instagram that might be kinda alarming in a joking manner but we both know that it's not a joke. and then when people try to talk to us we always wanna deflect like it was a joke, but maybe it's just cos we're not comfortable talking about it in front of people cos we think they won't believe us?? or bc we feel like their pity is surface level and they dont understand the brunt of what's going on???

and i just realized I'm technically doing the same thing rn. huh. shit😞


Okay so I do feel that its a bit triggering, at least for me. But then I know now that if I'm a bit on the edge of feeling like that to try not to watch a video that seems sad or not to read any of the long Instagram posts because I know how it'll make me feel. And honestly if it helps you then go for it. I do think that it'd be better for you to reach out to friends, but I know how hard that can be. I also get the whole sending a text and then regretting it the next day, I feel that all the time. I've actually tried to stop texting my friend when I feel down because even though she's told me it's totally fine I feel like I'm ruining everything 😂. Sometimes what helps me is the realization that life just goes on and tomorrow you'll wake up and yesterday will just be a memory. Just think about how fast the past few days went by and where you're at now when you last felt like you couldn't make it through the day/night, and now that's days/weeks/months ago. I don't know, maybe I won't make it another year or maybe I'll live till I'm 100, but I'm just going to keep walking even if I'm tired and fed up. Life's really boring but I don't really care anymore. I don't know if any of that is good helpful advice, I'm sure anyone who reads this is going to say I should just die cuz that's what always happens when I leave a comment, but good luck and I hope you enjoy the rest of your life


I have to say that i don't use insta or snapchat so i don't know what you're putting out there, but what you put out on your youtube I find refreshingly honest and don't find it represents ill-health as glamorous or romantic. I can understand that if you are putting out very immediate short clips on other platforms these may be more impulsive and one-dimensional and if taken in isolation, could, as discussed, trigger people or give a sense of drama or excitement to your ill-health. On one level maybe you find sharing online helpful because it makes you feel you're taking ownership of your ill-health (by, as you say, making art of it) but I dare say it is not 'real' ownership because it's only on a virtual plane; it is somewhat removed. It might feel easier/safer to do it virtually but I think taking ownership of your ill-health in your 'real' non-virtual life, by telling a close friend, a professional or even writing in a journal, feels more real and makes you feel more in charge. I don't want to dismiss the possible therapeutic value of expressing your ill-health online, I merely, in the spirit of this video, want to challenge it! Mainly I want to say that I love you (as much as you can love a stranger!) and personally find your sharing on youtube very helpful, but I would hate to think it was to the detriment of your own health, so if you do think it might be self-destructive, try taking a break from it. Maybe put a ban on impulsive posts for a week and see how you feel. Does it make you feel less in charge of your ill-health or more in charge of it? Anyway, some thoughts. As always, I admire your honesty and vulnerability. Just please take care of yourself and let your lovely friends take care of you too! <3


I don't have major mental illnesses and I don't think anyone can really understand depression or anxiety when they never went through them. That being said, when I watch your videos about feeling depressed and all that, it's like you give me insight on what it feels like and maybe it helps me understand it more and feel more compassionate, and maybe it could give me indications on what I can do to help people I know if they ever go trough something similar to what you're going through ? What I'm saying is that your videos help me in a way, because they portray what mental illness is really like, and it's not like a medical sterelized description like you talk about feelings and actual effects on your life and all that... So they really are helpful and they mean something and they do have a positive impact. I also don't think you romanticise it, you seem to give us the raw depressed you who wants to get things out of her head (I'm only talking about videos because I don't have snapchat so I don't watch your stories), not a glorified version of what's going on in your head. But it's important to say that this all comes from the point of view of a 19 year old who isn't triggered by content like this, so I don't know how your videos could affect younger and more sensitive people... But then again, most of your videos about your depression have a title that's quite self-explainatory so it's not like you're surprising people with depressed Dodie like they know what they're getting themselves into ? But I know it's a complex matter because since your audience is quite young different rules must apply I guess. That's a whole other conversation but maybe you shouldn't worry about making content for your audience and keep making what you WANT to make, cause that's what artists do, you know ? <br>As for you intagram posts, I think they're great and I don't think you're romanticising mental illness either there. Like I guess you could argue it's a way to sublimate depression... Like you're dealing with it your own way and since you have an audience it can affect other people but you can affect them positively, and most of the time you warn people about what is going to be in your videos so I don't think there's much of a problem about them.. (Then again, can't talk about snapchat because I didn't see any of your stories)

I don't have major mental illnesses and I don't think anyone can really understand depression or anxiety when they never went through them. That being said, when I watch your videos about feeling depressed and all that, it's like you give me insight on what it feels like and maybe it helps me understand it more and feel more compassionate, and maybe it could give me indications on what I can do to help people I know if they ever go trough something similar to what you're going through ? What I'm saying is that your videos help me in a way, because they portray what mental illness is really like, and it's not like a medical sterelized description like you talk about feelings and actual effects on your life and all that... So they really are helpful and they mean something and they do have a positive impact. I also don't think you romanticise it, you seem to give us the raw depressed you who wants to get things out of her head (I'm only talking about videos because I don't have snapchat so I don't watch your stories), not a glorified version of what's going on in your head. But it's important to say that this all comes from the point of view of a 19 year old who isn't triggered by content like this, so I don't know how your videos could affect younger and more sensitive people... But then again, most of your videos about your depression have a title that's quite self-explainatory so it's not like you're surprising people with depressed Dodie like they know what they're getting themselves into ? But I know it's a complex matter because since your audience is quite young different rules must apply I guess. That's a whole other conversation but maybe you shouldn't worry about making content for your audience and keep making what you WANT to make, cause that's what artists do, you know ?
As for you intagram posts, I think they're great and I don't think you're romanticising mental illness either there. Like I guess you could argue it's a way to sublimate depression... Like you're dealing with it your own way and since you have an audience it can affect other people but you can affect them positively, and most of the time you warn people about what is going to be in your videos so I don't think there's much of a problem about them.. (Then again, can't talk about snapchat because I didn't see any of your stories)


I like to tell people my problems because I feel better if I let it out and I like to let people understand that depression is not just being sad. Anxiety is not an overreaction. Many are ignorant so I try my hardest to educate as many people as possible. I'm suicidal but I have never attempted and the depression just sucks ass. Thank you for spreading awareness because people really do need to understand what it's actually like. Love you Dodie x


hi it bothers me how people endlessly will support you through depression and anxiety, but with my trichtillomania people are just disgusted and tell me to just 'stop'. It's not your fault people do this, I like how you're trying to end the stigma, but it's hard to be put down for something I can't help, when something you can't help is supported and helped.


I agree with the note in the description!  I don't follow you on Snapchat but do follow you on Instagram and sometimes stop reading the captions halfway through because I feel like I'm seeing something I shouldn't, or it starts making me overanalyze myself and my own emotions, which is something that social media just kinda does in general. Obviously if you're putting it out there, you want people to see it and I shouldn't be feeling like it's "private" or "wrong," because that's kind of giving into the stigma, and that's my own fault... but at the same time it kind of makes me worried because I have no idea what kind of help you're getting in your personal life, beyond venting on social media. I'm sure it helps people who have felt the same way, but coming from someone who repeatedly tries to get their friends to open up about their feelings or tries to get them help and repeatedly fails, (some friends who watch you) it almost feels like talking about it so often across all social media normalizes it to a weird extent? Like obviously it IS normal to be depressed and sad! But it almost makes it seem like it's not a problem, and it's not something that really needs to be helped. And that's definitely how my friends seem to view it. More like a, "If you know and I know this is how I am thing, why try to get better?" And that's weird. I guess. And really, really hard to watch and try to help with. I don't know if that makes sense.

I think your videos talking about mental health are great, but the way Hazel describes it... YouTubers maybe should not be giving their sadness and mental illness to their subscribers before they try to talk to their friends or partners about it. No matter how many people in this comment section say they love you... it's not the same thing as actually talking to somebody. At the end of the day we are thousands of strangers, and it's not your job to single-handedly de-stigmatize mental illness. Thousands of strangers can't really help you, as much as they say you help them.

But I'm no expert. I think its good to talk about it and everything, but I do think there's a balance that needs to be hit. It's something that's made me a bit wary with YouTubers for a while now.


Love you Dodie, it isn't a bad thing to vent but it is also true that it could become a healthy satisfaction. Mental health does need to be talked about more, but it can also be a hard and triggering topic. I also feel like to provide full support to someone with a mental health issue from a friendship standpoint, you have to be mindful of your own wellbeing. I say this as both a sufferer and someone who has supported friends with low mental health. This was such an important video and love to you, Hazel and Zannah ♥


loved this video. so RAW. i appreciate this so much


This is such a great. Because I've felt like this for along time .


I mean, I might as well give my opinion. (It's not like there are over a thousand people giving you their opinions, nah.) So, I understand that talking about depression can come across as romanticising it, and sometimes it can trigger others, but I believe that depression, anxiety, all of those mental disorders, they need to be talked about online. That being said, there is such a thing as over sharing on the wrong platform.
For instance, if you were to post a video on this website describing your experience with depression and you went into vivid detail, that may be over sharing. However, you may be able to post that on a different platform and it may not be over sharing. (I have no idea if that makes sense, I'm sorry.)
I also believe that sharing things such as my example can be educational in a way. (One person who thought they were alone may see what you're going through and begin to understand how to deal with it.) By sharing your own case, you help others.
It can also help to unite everyone who thought they were alone. (Ex: Someone in this comment section finds someone else who is like them and they become acquaintances.)
All in all, I believe it is okay to share your experiences to a certain extent on certain platforms.
(Also, it may be healthier to talk to someone who is physically present, but someone online may be able to help you almost as much as someone who is in front of you. It's better to talk to someone instead of no one.)

I mean, I might as well give my opinion. (It's not like there are over a thousand people giving you their opinions, nah.) So, I understand that talking about depression can come across as romanticising it, and sometimes it can trigger others, but I believe that depression, anxiety, all of those mental disorders, they need to be talked about online. That being said, there is such a thing as over sharing on the wrong platform.
For instance, if you were to post a video on this website describing your experience with depression and you went into vivid detail, that may be over sharing. However, you may be able to post that on a different platform and it may not be over sharing. (I have no idea if that makes sense, I'm sorry.)
I also believe that sharing things such as my example can be educational in a way. (One person who thought they were alone may see what you're going through and begin to understand how to deal with it.) By sharing your own case, you help others.
It can also help to unite everyone who thought they were alone. (Ex: Someone in this comment section finds someone else who is like them and they become acquaintances.)
All in all, I believe it is okay to share your experiences to a certain extent on certain platforms.
(Also, it may be healthier to talk to someone who is physically present, but someone online may be able to help you almost as much as someone who is in front of you. It's better to talk to *someone* instead of no one.)


I think talking about it on camera is easier because you feel like you're talking to someone but you don't have to deal with how the person responds. I hate venting to people because sometimes I feel like often people don't know how to reply. I end up frustrated with the person because what they're saying isn't helping me and I don't want to lie and pretend that it has & that I feel better. When you talk to a camera, you're simply venting which can be nice. However, when you're with a therapist or friend it becomes more like a conversation & when I'm mentally down I don't feel like conversations help.


I think a thing is to try to get across to the other person what you want. Do you want to just spew words with supportive calming replies? Do you want advice and encouragement to change? Do you want them to just listen and say nothing?


I honestly have been a follower for dodie for a good while now (unfortunately my time perspective is so BAD I can't even guess how long it's been) and I've never ever thought Dodie has overshared  with us!! I always think of it as her having to let out whatever's eating her inside (which is so admirable) and nothing more! But after seeing this I suppose I can see where she & her friends are coming from ?? At the same time though she does raise awareness so lol it's a tough situation?? She's such a strong person though, always fighting through which is what I love so so much about her!! She's a gem 💖


I do agree with mental health awareness and you sharing to make people not feel alone and I needed someone to talk about it when I was a teenager, but now I'm nearly your age and I do sometimes find it a chore to look at your snapchat and often times I find myself feeling worse as I too have DPD/Anxiety/Depression. So it's quite hard to move past it and cope with what's going on in your own head when someone, who you've never met, is describing in perfect detail the sorrow and hopelessness you feel when you're at your worst. I love so much of what you do and you obviously have the right to share but sometimes it can be somewhat triggering. I hope you feel better dodie as you deserve so much and I'm sure someday you'll have everything you want and need 😊💕


I don't really know what to say except, i love u and i getcha. I just came back from therapy and it was a bit of a mess (family meeting stab me) and im a bit of a mess and im scared and lost and sad. I love your videos, but sometimes i do shy away from your videos because it puts me in a bad place as well and reminds me of how shit my life is. I want you to go to Jack and Hazel and Dean and your friends, not to us. It makes us feel less alone, but it also makes me feel a bit helpless. I can't halp you, and im just a bit worried at 3 am that you dont have someone reliable to talk to. I love u.


i always feel so weirded out by what i am. i mean i want to tell people that i feel depressed and i want to talk to people but i get such bad anxiety that i can't. even when someone says "oh you can always talk to me!" it just feels like empty words escaping their mouths.


here I am in bed. Went to work, had a bit of a panic attack, came home. Cried for a few hours. Cried all day yesterday and the days before. Haven't been sleeping or eating. Its nice to know I'm not alone but at the same time that isn't what is truly going to get either of us help. Dodie, just talk to real people. Its fucking hard. I'm a hypocrite because I can barely work up the courage either but thats what is going to help. It really is nice to know I'm not alone. But in a way I wouldn't mind being alone because if no one understands then no one else is suffering like this. And I wouldn't wish this on anyone.


i really needed this video. i overshare so much online and it's gotten so unhealthy.


Dodie, we all love you more than you know. Don't think that you're over sharing. You share as much as you want to. Nobody will judge you for that, it doesn't make you a bad person, and you're still Dodie no matter what. We will all be here for you always, and i mean always. You are helping so many people and myself get through these hard times and we love you for that. Your friends love you so much, your friends love you. and your family love you. Please don't think there is no point in living because you and everybody else have a reason to be here. Again, We alll love you, and we all will be here for you no matter what. -Lexi


I'm glad you're open to criticism, but I feel like even this video was so much about romanticising the whole thing - I know you're trying to justify sharing this much detail about your mental health issue, but you have to learn that you don't have to. You've made a mistake online, it happens, especially in our age - the best you can do is own up for it and accept that what you've done is wrong or too much.

I don't want you to feel like you cannot share your experiences with your audience, but I agree with Hazel that you'd probably better share them after you've come back from a worse period so that people don't get too worried or triggered by the thoughts you know well are caused by depression. I think Tomska's managing this pretty well in his weekly series, maybe it would do you good if you asked him for advice on how to still be able to share these things and feel like you're still authentic but also relatively balanced?

Either way, just please be careful. You of all people should know that whatever you put on to the internet will stay there forever, and this could damage your life as well as your career within or outside of YT.


i subscribed like two days ago or something and I have been binge watching all of you videos like legit ved's 2015 you're awesome and i was so confused when I was watching a video that isn't at least 3 months old😂😂😂😂 ily


do what ever the hell u want to do. its ur depression nobody elses. honestly what u say helps me and i would hate u not to be open on your channel. people are always going to say shit whether ur too open or not enough open. just say fuck it and do you<br>edit: also dont feel like you need to end everything on a positive note because its not the truth its just a forced mind set that fails to change anything about real life depression. if that makes sence

do what ever the hell u want to do. its ur depression nobody elses. honestly what u say helps me and i would hate u not to be open on your channel. people are always going to say shit whether ur too open or not enough open. just say fuck it and do you
edit: also dont feel like you need to end everything on a positive note because its not the truth its just a forced mind set that fails to change anything about real life depression. if that makes sence


you basically collabed with Zannah<br>it was lovely, a great talk :)

you basically collabed with Zannah
it was lovely, a great talk :)


I AM SO GLAD UR BACK I LITERALLY WENT ON UR CHANNEL AND REWATCHED LOADS OF UR OLD VIDEOS BC I MISS U


Some things I'd like to see from you;
1. Get a real diary. I understand the feeling that you want (need) to pour your heart out but do it in i dairy not on social media. This will limit the amount of times you post something you provably shouldn't have posted.
2. Keep making videos on mental illness (if you want to and feel like it's helping you) but don't do it when you're at your worst. If you're always feeling awful, do it on a not as awful day.
3. Continue to seek help, see professionals and take medication. Talk about this in your videos. How that is the way to deal with it, it's an illness so you need doctors.
4. Don't talk about how artist have to be mentally ill, talk about how your sickness stops you from creating all of the amazing things you otherwise could create. This will stop romantizing the illness.


Life is worth living because one day you will die and you still have things you want to do and places you want to see and you can still make this work beautiful for all the other people living here too.
You make powerful music that is relatable because of how you feel right now but it minght not be worth it. I believe that you can be okay (no need to be happy, it's overrated). Just start trying to find the things that are ruining your life (and people), get rid of them, and start doing and finding the things that make your life manageable like how you where feeling when you did 'Here Comes The Sun'

Good luck.


Maybe you could make snapchats so you still feel like you're releasing, but just don't post it? (A new account could mean you wouldn't post by accident). Also, I think a big reason you don't talk directly to your friends is timing - even if they reassure you that there's time, that might not be true, or you can make a video instantaneously but even if you text them they can't turn up in that moment.


i think it's better to seek help from friends in real life instead of pouring out your problems via social media, not because of how we will intepret it but because it seems fruitless to just snap about it. Maybe it's just me but being on social media when I'm sad and trying to describe the feeling to my friends indirectly through tweets, only exemplifies my loneliness. People never know what to say and so they don't say anything and you feel like you're talking to yourself despite the fact you're speaking to a community. Maybe just go to your friends and ask, "can i unload all of this onto you right now?"


I love this video so much because I can relate so much I love watching ur snap chats but I feel bad for u sometimes because I don't like see u sad like when u were at vidcon on anti depressants and u weren't really that happy I just love u and u will probably never see this but I want u to know that I love you xxx


How would you describe this to an Alien (supposing they exist)?


"Why do creatives tend to be so mentally ill?" NO. Plenty of people in all industries, both creative and non-creative, are mentally ill, but they aren't expressing it in a public medium like music, art, videos, so you just don't know about it. Suicide rates in the legal and financial industries are far above average, for instance. I can promise you it's not a correlation or a causation thing, it's just that when creative people have mental health problems, we're more likely to hear about them.


this video made me cry because I saw myself in it


I saw a comment from a mutual of mine on one of your posts, basically saying that she feels like as dodie describes depersonalisation and everything in depth, a lot of her younger fan base are self diagnosing themselves with what she has, she explained that she felt it was unhealthy as she has it herself, and that she feels like its becoming a trend in dodies Instagram comments, because of her oversharing. just wanted to share her comment, not sure how I feel about it yet, I don't think I'm educated on the topic. thoughts?


Hi Dodie, I'm not sure if you'll see this or if it is at all helpful, but over the last couple of years at uni I've suffered with bad mental health a lot to some dang serious low points  After one of these one of my very lovely caring and empathetic friends asked me why I didn't call them or message them or about 5 other people who had some clue of what I go through. Basically after this we created a facebook messenger group, aptly called Team Helen. I now have this amazing tool where its not quite as scary or burdening on one person to let some people know I'm not doing good. It can be a long or short message and often gets the reply or we're all praying for you, if you can and want to talk more in depth I'm awake/available and what could any one of us do practically that would be helpful like buying food for the house or coming round and putting washing on or cooking for you. I think you may have some people who would love to do that for you and it means they don't need to be as worried at you wont reach out to someone close. I just thought I'd share one of my better coping systems. I really hope things go on an up soon, I know drugs can suck and can be especially easy to give up on, but we've just got to stick with it. Send lots of love and prayer xXx


fuck i love you both so much. thanks for understanding me.


things i learned from this video:<br>don’t be a creative. get a degree in business or maths or some bullshit and become an accountant. never create things. don’t encourage the brain.

things i learned from this video:
don’t be a creative. get a degree in business or maths or some bullshit and become an accountant. never create things. don’t encourage the brain.


I agree with zannah and hazel, you're lovely but I can't watch your snapchats sometimes because they can be upsetting but I hope you get better soon babes xo


dodie I don't know if you have a counselor but maybe you should get one so you can just talk and have someone listen and I wish I could just hug you and tell you it will be alright


I have nothing deep or empowering to say.. but I love ya dodie clark


Hmm. I have no problem whatsoever with how much you talk about it on here - talking more would be fine. I can see how Insta or Snapchat might be more problematic though. For me I don't like to follow social media (other than YouTube) as all that happens is I become hyperaware how poorly my life compares to other people's and therefore how poorly I do. There's a risk of romanticising your struggles when captioning an artistic shot with some description of a moment when you connected with friends over struggles. My response to that is "I don't even have friends in a group to share it with like that anymore" and so I feel connected to your struggle but more disconnected from my own social circle. All my stuff I know, just thought I'd share what it's like for me.


Someone asked me on my Curious Cat about why they feel comfortable in their own skin yet rejected by others. This is a segment of my response that I think kinda applies to your scenario:

"""... causing a vicious circle.

You don't like talking to people and getting overly personal.
That leads to you reducing the amount you talk to people.
That makes you socially anxious about meeting new people.
Loneliness makes you depressed.
That makes you depressed about being a burden.
That makes you depressed whenever you DO actually talk to a person because you feel like a burden.
That makes you overly honest because you don't want them to think your a cool person when you think you're a mess.
That makes you think your even more of a burden.
That makes you feel like your getting overly personal and why you don't like talking to people.

The circle repeats.

I've been through that, hell I'M GOING THROUGH THAT. LITERALLY RIGHT NOW.
The trick? Remember on every cycle that they are talking to you for a reason.
They like you.
So that gives you a reason to talk to them.
...
If you spin around that vicious circle too much, go see a doctor/therapist. Seriously."""

I think...where my friend was asking about anxiety and having difficulty in social interactions, for you (and people out there feeling the same), I think it's the fear and social stigma that you are flawed that causes the circle to start.

And yes, you are flawed. Everyone is. You should try not to be ashamed of it though. You're human.

After re-reading this, I feel like I'm coming across as super patronising and telling you what you are thinking or going through. Which is COMPLETELY not what I was trying to do.

So, you have my most sincere apologies if you've taken offence from this. This was an attempt at providing a different perspective, hopefully it did help...

I dunno...I'm tired...


Dodie. I know the internet is your job, but.... maybe take a break. Like no social media. No snap, no Instagram, no YouTube, nothing. It's nice to just take a break and take time to be with friends and family, getting help that you need.


I love you, you're great (: simplest comment but it means a lot


I really suggest looking into buddhism and suffering in that aspect!!


I really hate talking to people irl because I don't want them to know. I would rather tell a group of complete strangers that I want to kill myself than to tell someone who might actually help. I really don't like when people try to help and try to play therapist to find a problem because it is patronizing. I have gotten a lot better lately but I think that because I haven't been telling everyone Everytime I feel shit, I haven't been wallowing in it and I can get out of it faster. This has been a great ramble but I wanted to say that I relate to Dodie and Hazel's struggles and that I appreciate Dodie sharing that


for my "to dodie..." comment, you don't have to read the parentheses it was just for clarification


Wait what? Jack is her boyfriend?? Ohh that makes sense


Think of us as your friends who you can talk to about anything

Asdfghjkl Skabka but the thing is, we are not her friends. though we love her and care about her a lot, we do not know her other than what she shows us. there is a difference between oversharing with  a million impressionable children (most of her audience is very young), and creating a safe place and sharing a healthy amount. i love her, but we do not know her and therefore should not know every detail of her brain.


Can someone tell me whether they're girlfriends...... Oooooor do i have to ship it


to the commenters: telling her how great she is is fine and all, but it's not going to help her


Why are you so adorable? xD

Then there's me ;-;


to dodie and other metal health strugglers: a. try to not go on your phone as much (for information purposes like calendar, or calculator, or alarms, and such is fine but not content or being a consumer of media) instead fill your time with things that make you happy. (playing an instrument, writing, cooking, playing with your cat, etc. whatever makes you happy.). b. do guided meditation for anxiety (just search it on youtube there's a million guided meditations). c. write a list of all the things you love about yourself, and when you're sad you can look at it to realize how AWESOME you are. d. touch yourself (I don't mean sexually, but sexually can help as well) like hug/hold yourself and rub your bicep or give your bicep a little squeeze to tell yourself you're ok. you can also put your hand over your heart. d. TRY to stop yourself from thinking negative and pessimistic things. however dont scold yourself if you do, instead, when you start to think of things negatively, recognize what you are doing then tell yourself that you choose to be happy and let the thought go.


i overshare to the point of, people almost, glazing over and becoming tired of my issues it's wiiild


I'm all for talking about mental illness, but the way you go about it is so romanticised with your edgy instagram posts that make it seem so in genuine. I just feel like you need to stop feeling sorry for your self and and start looking to get your self better


no hate but lowkey I think you do overshare and I think it's really really problematic because you're audience is so young. Especially now that you have a therapist (or you did? I don't follow you that much I don't actually know lol). I think there's a difference between awareness about mental illness and writing novels in every single instagram description about how terrible you feel all the time and how terrible life is and yadda yadda. Because honestly I used to follow you on social media but everything was a bit too extra for me, and it's even starting to leak into your YouTube channel as well. Idk i still like your old videos but you don't need to have all your mental problems become your literal branding.
Again don't hate you as a person, and still like your music, just my opinion.

(Also lowkey the amount you over shared almost made it harder to believe you and sympathize with you. Just a little side note)


maybe just add a trigger warning or censor some things


why is everyone mental it's rly sad but in like,, a funny way idk it's 4:30am and i have school in a bit and i'm only up because i'm having the worst anxiety/depression bout ever i think i might actually lose it but it's cool u know


this is just disgusting how you extended this to 10 minutes.


to answer your caption; yes. yes you are.


how are you feeling
oh god...
...3...2...1
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

*how are you feeling*
oh god...
*...3...2...1*
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH


1:15, I thought I'm in poodiepie channel.


holy shit dodie oversharing means 'sharing too much' and in the title u put 'oversharing too much' and tf that's like even moar share, even moar extrA

agonerstayingalive I guess a little over sharing is okay but there's a line and maybe it gets crossed


your facial features remind me so much of anne frank :(


okay so ill just answer your question dodie, no, you’re not sharing too much.


Idk what's right and what's wrong but everyone seems to be nashing dodie in the comments and ik it's just ur opinion and advice but idk. Also about romanticizing it, I think you can't make art about something without getting romanticized no amtyer what it is, doesn't mean it's right but i think that's the way it is


The captions go by too fast!!!

Yes I paused it, because I had to


I think a lot of artistic people are just a little mental.


Crystal White      I have fallin in love with your girl...Dodie


I don't even know what to say this video really made me think but like idk what exactly


oh Dodie, we'll believe you, or true Dodie fans will, because everyone has issues and it really pisses me off when people say ''Ohhhhhh, you're lying because______'' and gives an excuse and I want to believe everyone because no one has a reason to lie about their mental health!


this video didn't appear in my sub box... ughhh YouTube... Anyway, thanks for oversharing on snapchat otherwise I wouldn't've seen it.


lol idk i lowkey inda like depressing shit


this conversation shouldn't even be online, this seems like a really personal conversation? this shouldn't have been published