the response varies a LOTTTTTTT! but even so thanks for joining the discussion. thinking about it all :)

the response varies a LOTTTTTTT! but even so thanks for joining the discussion. thinking about it all :)

#doddlevloggle Hi Dodie, there are so many reasons why we can feel this way, it doesn't mean not wanting to live and/or to feel utterly desperate.. But most of the times, you actually want to live, just in another way.. You want to change the climate, you want to be free artisticly, you want wars to stop, you want that people live more about 'being' and not so much about 'having' ... I feel depressed because I don't agree with the world, how economics took over how we are suppose to live.. But you are really going in the right direction, I am proud of you.. You speak your mind and you can even write music about things, about important topics..You have many listeners and I believe you can influence them with great positive impact.. I understand that you feel down and even depressed.. I really understand that.. But, Take each day at a time.. Look for things that move you, inspire you... Hugs, go girl xx

doddlevloggle i was the 3000th like. Anyway, I simply love you! I completely relate with this and have been on a self-healing break from over sharing from most social media apps. Keep fighting Dodie! Take care!

doddlevloggle i was the 3000th like. Anyway, I simply love you! I completely relate with this and have been on a self-healing break from over sharing from most social media apps. Keep fighting Dodie! Take care!

Hey just a little thing I thought I might share with everyone because it's so cute and a nice idea

Basically I tried to keep a diary, but i spent a couple hours every day writing in it so that didn't work, so now instead I keep a gratitude journal and a memories book. Every day I write down three things I'm grateful for that day, even if they're stupid and silly. And if I feel like remembering a funny moment or a silly one or a happy one or even a sad one I write it down in my memory book. I do this because I know when I grow up imma be really really nostalgic, so whenever I feel sad I can always look back on all the memories i wrote.

I really like this idea, I just thought I'd share it for anyone who wants to try because, well, a few months ago I wasn't so happy. And now I feel happier. To anyone that actually read this fat thanks and I hope you try this :)

doddlevloggle honestly DODIE I love your videos so much! I don't follow you on social media cause I don't have them but your videos are everything to me! I love you, your music, EVERYTHING! Thank you so much for them :)

doddlevloggle honestly DODIE I love your videos so much! I don't follow you on social media cause I don't have them but your videos are everything to me! I love you, your music, EVERYTHING! Thank you so much for them :)

doddlevloggle I know you probably won't ever read my comment but I feel if you ever do find yourself reading this, please do look at the comment I posted. I feel you would agree with me on most of it, I support you for being you and I feel you didn't do anything wrong.

doddlevloggle I know you probably won't ever read my comment but I feel if you ever do find yourself reading this, please do look at the comment I posted. I feel you would agree with me on most of it, I support you for being you and I feel you didn't do anything wrong.

If it's affecting your mental health it's on you to stop watching. Not on her to stop sharing.

If it's affecting your mental health it's on you to stop watching. Not on her to stop sharing.

honestly i have started drifting away from your videos ect because they have become a place where i just get more depressed rather than an escape for me, which is really what the internet is for me. i appreciate your openness but maybe the frequency of it is a little too much :)

honestly i have started drifting away from your videos ect because they have become a place where i just get more depressed rather than an escape for me, which is really what the internet is for me. i appreciate your openness but maybe the frequency of it is a little too much :)

When I first started watching you, you weren't sharing as much about your personal life, and then when you were, I did at first think that you were oversharing, and I thought "Wow, I could never in a million years speak to a million people about what's going on in my head, much less post it on a public site where anyone can reference it". But then I kinda realized that 1) I was taken aback by your openness because it rarely happens with "celebrities" or people I think of as Idols. 2) The whole point of your sharing was to help not only yourself but those who were going through the same thing and searching for answers or reassurance. You've done a wonderful job in everything you share about yourself to find a meaning to it, and find the positivity in the outcomes. 3) I was once going through many issues that I didn't fully understand or know how to deal with, and your videos and blogs and posts have all made me so much better, as I imagine they did for many other viewers, that I would hate for you to suddenly stop sharing. I completely understand that speaking of it so much could easily turn into romanticism, or that it can bring back painful memories, and that there is a point where the intimacy of your thoughts is too much to be accepted, but these are all remedial consequences of this issue. You could make it be understood that your problems are by no chance a joke, or a beautiful burden to be given; you could put simple warnings in your descriptions, or make a separate playlist where you put your more intimate videos; and as for the last bit, I think you've already found a good solution - writing your more personal thoughts into a book that people can bear easier, or maybe just not publishing you more personal thoughts at all, rather, journal them and release them at a time in your life when it is easier to speak of them, when you have overcome those specific burdens. All in all, I think you're doing amazing Dodie, and you've become one of the most inspirational people in my life. I love listening to you talk about your issues, and I feel that much closer to you because of them, but whatever your choice is in life regarding your personal conflicts, I will fully support you. Love you always!

Personally I like when you talk about you mental health, mostly in a positive sense. It's nice when you talk about the things that are helping you. Your "I'm depressed" video has helped me greatly. I actually found you by watching your videos on mental health. I over share almost all the time on social media. I don't have a following at all but all of me friends see it all the time. For me, I made private accounts on the places I usually post and vent my life away. It's helpful. But that's just me.

at the time I started watching you I was in a very bad spot mentally and im still dealing with my mental health but im better than I was and watching your videos made me feel less alone, even though I don't have depersonalisation a lot of things you talked about I related too and it felt nice to know I want alone. So when I wasn't mentally unwell watching your content or reading it was almost felt normal to me cuz it was like I knew you were still mentally unwell but looking back I think that sometimes consuming so much of your content probably wasn't good for my mental health as I went through waves of depression but I never stopped reading or stepped away from your videos it was kinda like I liked the fact that the videos made me feel sad or depressed cuz I was depressed and when im like that I don't want to feel happy I just want to be sad witch is shit and like really bad for me but at the same time without your videos I think I would of felt more alone and they did help me like calm myself down or sleep better but that being said I think there is a line I just don't know where that lies but that's just my perspective and I wouldn't want you to completely stop talking about it cuz raising awareness is so so so so important. also I like how emotional you are because I am too! I literally cry at everything so thank you for not trying to hide that part of you : )

doddlevloggle I don't think you need to hide how you feel. Maybe you could post a picture before you start snapping that says "hey if you're triggered by mental health conversation, please don't watch the following snaps" I'll do that when I cuss and stuff if I think people are in public. I find it to be helpful though

doddlevloggle I don't think you need to hide how you feel. Maybe you could post a picture before you start snapping that says "hey if you're triggered by mental health conversation, please don't watch the following snaps" I'll do that when I cuss and stuff if I think people are in public. I find it to be helpful though

doddlevloggle I love you Dodie and I like what you share but even if it's hard I think you should talk to your friends before us, because I know if it were me and my friend did that , I would feel super worried and be like "why doesn't she just text or call me ?" Also as much as me and the others who see your snap chat would love to talk back to you , we just can't and it's better to get a response

doddlevloggle I love you Dodie and I like what you share but even if it's hard I think you should talk to your friends before us, because I know if it were me and my friend did that , I would feel super worried and be like "why doesn't she just text or call me ?" Also as much as me and the others who see your snap chat would love to talk back to you , we just can't and it's better to get a response

doddlevloggle I think a good way to find a happy medium between using the camera to let out all of your feelings, and not encouraging anyone to feel the same way you do or upsetting people would be to make a video of yourself getting all of your craziest thoughts out, then use that footage to make a response to your own feelings once you're feeling better, and publish that. That way you can sit down and explain why you think you said what you did and what parts you think are true versus which ones might have just come from your sadness and anxiety. That could even be a really helpful way to understand your own emotions better, and I think it would be super helpful to get rid of stigma and for people with mental illness to understand their illness better and maybe even be encouraged to sit down and logically critique their own feelings.

I see most of the top comments saying, "you're right the sharing isn't helpful." A lot of these comments came out really harshly; I can only imagine that it stings a bit to read them (maybe more than a healthy stinging).
I think you have a really good friend if she was willing to initially let you know her thoughts on it in a loving way like that. And I think you're a really good person that you were willing to open it up as a conversation with your followers. And, just from the people I see in your videos, you have many wonderful friends who truly love you and will put in the work to help you to be okay -- I bet you have even more off-camera friends who are the same. They might not entirely understand, but they're kindred spirits nonetheless and understand in at least a vague way. And you are loved. Take your own advice in "Secret for the Mad" :) I do think it would be healthiest for you to lay off the outpouring on social media a bit. I think suffering is put to the best use upon reflection once you're through it. Getting through it is an unfortunately private affair, however.
But do not feel guilty, Dodie. As a 20 year old who experienced depression for the first time this past year, your videos and songs helped put words to my scary, embarrassing feelings when I didn't know how to talk about them yet. Your art that reflects the hope after depression is some of the most beautiful stuff I've ever listened to. Thank you for sharing what you have even if it's healthier to lay off a little bit now. Thank you. Remember you are so loved. You're one of those people I desperately long to be best friends with -- mostly because you'd understand and I want to listen to you and you're able to laugh even when everything sucks and you find beauty in little things and for so many other reasons. Just.. you are loved.

i don't mind how much you share. i find it comforting when people are going through similar things as i am...but i do see where people are coming from, because sometimes when other people are down, i get down. i know that's not what you intend to happen though

i don't mind how much you share. i find it comforting when people are going through similar things as i am...but i do see where people are coming from, because sometimes when other people are down, i get down. i know that's not what you intend to happen though

Michael Amodei I want to make it clear that people's perception of who she is & what she doesn't, does. NOT. matter. I find that a very fear-based way of thinking. This channel wouldn't exist if it weren't for her, for her creativity. And she can share what she wants on her channel & to say that she should concern herself what people will think when she's being transparent & genuine when things are rough for her is absolutely ridiculous. I really hope one day that you stop concerning yourself with how others may perceive you. Because that doesn't matter. Your perception of yourself is what's most important. Loving yourself is what's most important. Being authentic & genuine is what's most important. And worrying what other people think of you is a PLAGUE. It makes me sad how people (including me sometimes) don't do what makes them happy or what they need to do for them because of the obsession with what other's may think of them (even though you can never even really know what others will think, & everyone perceives things differently since we're all living our own realities). Blah.

you've made me feel safer and more content with who i am because i feel like i am very similar to you. so i want to thank you for that.

you've made me feel safer and more content with who i am because i feel like i am very similar to you. so i want to thank you for that.

i think the thing with publicly like tweeting instead of just texting the person is more of for me that i don't want to explain it because i don't want to give in to the emotions

i think the thing with publicly like tweeting instead of just texting the person is more of for me that i don't want to explain it because i don't want to give in to the emotions

doddlevloggle I definitely agree with everything Hazel said at the end: that we aren't meant to just exist and that feeling and suffering is part of the human experience, which yeah, can suck a lot- especially when you're in a dark place for a long time. But the reason you have friends close to you is to build each other up and have a physical support group. Even if they are in different time zones. This social media platform, and Snapchat, and twitter and insta and whatever, they're all lovely because you get to reach out and show people that you ARE human, but the downside is it definitely increases how much you care about their response, which is something that really stood out to me from the beginning of this video. You want to show people that mental illness is something that should be talked about and not covered up, and that you ARE a real person and you feel things, and maybe in part sometimes as an excuse as to why you can't produce or why you're lying there for days. But you deserve the time to you and the time to grow, and in the end, even though the outlet of social media is great in a lot of ways, change has to come from inside you, and speaking to people like Hazel and Zannah and all your other lovely friends that are close to you and have shared life experiences will totally benefit you much more than speaking to JUST an audience. Overshare isn't the worst thing in the world, and you shouldn't feel you've failed because of it. I for one, and I'm sure everyone who follows you and sees your content is so proud of you and glad that you've made this huge step in progression. Anyways, love you lots 💛💛💛 you're the key to your own growth

There are definitely good and bad things to how much you share. Had you not gone into such detail about DPD then I would probably have never realized I had it. I thought I just had depression and so that's what I was treating but it wasn't working and I was getting worse. And now I'm aware of my DPD and I was able to get a professional diagnoses and start to figure out how to start treating it. So I thank you so much for that. But I understand where people come from and where you yourself come from when you say maybe it's not the best option. I think you should do what makes you feel comfortable and what in the long run helps you. If people have a problem with it then that's not on you and they can do whatever it is they need to make themselves comfortable and healthy.  As long as they don't tear you and other people down. We can't tell you what the right call is all we can do is support the one you make. I don't know if this helps or if you'll even see it. But love you Dodie. Stay strong.

doddlevloggle my mental emotions exactly!!!! Hugs to you both!!!

doddlevloggle my mental emotions exactly!!!! Hugs to you both!!!

doddlevloggle It seems like a really great idea to talk to your therapist about this

doddlevloggle It seems like a really great idea to talk to your therapist about this

I'm conflicted about this. One part of me begs you to continue opening up as much as you do because it doesn't make me feel so alone and it's a moment of oMG SAME THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. But because you're famous, you have a million + subscribers and each one of them care so deeply about you and my comments of how much I thank you for being honest with you're mental health because I can relate on such a deep personal level are just lost in a sea of comments. It's difficult because I feel like I can connect to you so much but I'm so detached from you at the same time and it makes me feel so bitter because if I made insta captions pouring my heart out or if I message people I know I am turned away so easily. I have to suffer in silence. Please realise how lucky you are that your friends are offering and telling you to call them or tell them how crap you are feeling or telling the world how shitty you feel and having thousands of comments that tell you how great and wonderful you are. But tbh I'm not against you oversharing it's a coping mechanism for me to hang onto someone that is going through the same thing or a similar thing as me ♥

dodie ily but all of the responses I've seen say the same thing
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the only ones I've seen with different responses are the ones in this thread (sorry!) even if I've scrolled down a lot from top to recents in these comments for an hour because I felt relieved to know I wasn't the only one being affected by the videos/captions (i know my limits so its ok, it's me who should regulate how much i allow myself to watch,  as I already experienced and learnt many times I get in a really bad head space that I tried so hard to get out of, and not you who should control how much you're sharing as it is how you express yourself, but not everyone knows to limit themselves it's not your fault you're good at describing a situation so well and making the person indulge in it)

I understand that you have good intentions by sharing this stuff, and while I don't have depression or suffer from depersonalisation I do the same online when in feeling lonely or sad or down. I think maybe we could make something positive out of this and all try to speak to ppl irl rather than online when we're down for like a month or something and just see what happens. Obviously it might be harder for some than others but I think it would benefit a lot of ppl

doddlevloggle Hey Dodie! I feel like you should be able to share whatever you want in whichever platform you want to share it in, especially if it helps you deal with what you are feeling. What could vary is who decides to watch the content and who decides to avoid it. Personally, hearing you pour your heart out in Snapchat doesn't bother me. Instead, I get really worried about you and what you are thinking. Know that you have an amazing audience that loves you, roots for you, and will never leave you lonely. I love your vids (and you :D), and your music warms my heart. –Love, Giuly

Wow so many people seem to be doing a 180 now in response to Dodie when it's pretty clear a considerable amount of the response before on these comments was suggesting maybe it's not great for such impressionable audiences to be romanticising mental illness. Please read Rose's comment below, and others like hers, - I'm not saying it's a clear decision whether to overshare more or not but I definitely think you need to accept the full picture of the effects you have

doddlevloggle I love you so much you're videos make me happy  like over the moon and I your voice is sooooo beutiful Ik it's unrelated but I want you to know the great impact you have on ppls life's

doddlevloggle I love you so much you're videos make me happy  like over the moon and I your voice is sooooo beutiful Ik it's unrelated but I want you to know the great impact you have on ppls life's

Your oversharing has helped me recognise that not being ok and bottling it up all the time is not ok but at least expressing your emotions to people and getting help is ok. Thank you for oversharing :)

Your oversharing has helped me recognise that not being ok and bottling it up all the time is not ok but at least expressing your emotions to people and getting help is ok. Thank you for oversharing :)

doddlevloggle dodie please don't stop sharing you need an outlet to say it if you aren't comfortable enough to tell your friends. I used to tell my friends when I felt like shit or when I was feeing anxious and eventually they told me I was annoying and they avoided my texts bc I was so dramatic and honestly I don't talk to anyone anymore and it feels absolutely horrible. you need somewhere to share your feelings when you can't say it to someone out loud.

doddlevloggle dodie please don't stop sharing you need an outlet to say it if you aren't comfortable enough to tell your friends. I used to tell my friends when I felt like shit or when I was feeing anxious and eventually they told me I was annoying and they avoided my texts bc I was so dramatic and honestly I don't talk to anyone anymore and it feels absolutely horrible. you need somewhere to share your feelings when you can't say it to someone out loud.

doddlevloggle you sing or do a cover with TheGabbieShow!!!!

doddlevloggle you sing or do a cover with TheGabbieShow!!!!

doddlevloggle PLEASE try Accupuncture. It's been a miracle for me as a sufferer. Find a good TCM practitioner and go for it. Ps. Love your vids 👍 x

doddlevloggle PLEASE try Accupuncture. It's been a miracle for me as a sufferer. Find a good TCM practitioner and go for it. Ps. Love your vids 👍 x

I think seeking help from a professional is the way to go and then your friends after that. You have a big following online as you are a genuinely nice person and great singer but you need to use that position responsibly. Also, I think making sure you are busy is very important, I was prone to sitting and thinking negatively when I was in my early 20's with nothing much to do except think about myself. Now I have 3 kids and never get a minute to myself but am happier for not being able to think negatively. Your job means you have more time alone so maybe you could plan things e.g. Volunteering etc to keep you busy.

doddlevloggle I literally just did what you were talking about in this video... I should not be allowed social media when I'm feeling really down...

doddlevloggle I literally just did what you were talking about in this video... I should not be allowed social media when I'm feeling really down...

@dodie I recommend Dido's song "Slide". It helps me.

@dodie I recommend Dido's song "Slide". It helps me.

no matter what I love watching and listening to your snapchats, but at the end of the day it's up to you. it's probably better if you talk to a friend rather than a camera, but no one can force you to choose. ❤

no matter what I love watching and listening to your snapchats, but at the end of the day it's up to you. it's probably better if you talk to a friend rather than a camera, but no one can force you to choose. ❤

doddlevloggle I loved this video, I found it really helpful. In my opinion, I don't really mind the mental health posts, but I am worried for you dodie and the rest of the audience. Maybe, if you want to still keep raising awareness of mental health (which I think is really great btw!!) try posting about how you've overcome certain mental obstacles. It will make you feel accomplished, and show your audience that there always is a way to get through things. I do miss your videos, but ultimately I want the best for you. Much love, and cheer up, you got this ;) xoxoxooxoxoxoxox

doddlevloggle Love your videos but i do agree that you are oversharing. Maybe you're frightened of the face to face response of sharing that deeply/often with your real friends. It's easier somtimes to share with no real response. I worry personaly that friends i have that overshare online (in a similar way to you) are indulging their mental illness. I have had depression and i deal with it by singing everything im going through in a long improv i find this helps but also indulges the depression. Its a difficult one.

Sam Duda yea just like a trigger warning before the paragraph

Sam Duda yea just like a trigger warning before the paragraph

doddlevloggle I think like hazel said it is good to express after you're feeling a bit less rubbish but then again you don't want nobody to know when you need help. I find it helpful but I don't want you to share unless it helps you

doddlevloggle I think like hazel said it is good to express after you're feeling a bit less rubbish but then again you don't want nobody to know when you need help. I find it helpful but I don't want you to share unless it helps you

I do think it is a good thing that you want to share the real and honest truth. However after reading some of the comments I can see that young people are easily affected by this. That is the hard thing about social media these days, there are no guidelines on what to share and what not to share. I personally can look at your sad snapchats and just feel bad for you and wish I could maybe help you, but it's not making me relate or want to be like you, but I think that is different for younger people who see you as a role model.

doddlevloggle it helps a lot of people when you share youre feelings including me, but it also causes people to think about how theyre feeling so I think that you should still create ans share when you are down but not when you are at your worst. Coming from someone who is going through the same thing as you, I appreciate your raw Snapchat talks but is it really healthy for you? But honestly from the bottom of my heart, thank you dodie. Ilysm💛

doddlevloggle it helps a lot of people when you share youre feelings including me, but it also causes people to think about how theyre feeling so I think that you should still create ans share when you are down but not when you are at your worst. Coming from someone who is going through the same thing as you, I appreciate your raw Snapchat talks but is it really healthy for you? But honestly from the bottom of my heart, thank you dodie. Ilysm💛

I know that there are a lot of people saying that they feel less alone and for a while I felt the same but I was watching your snapchat story a while ago and I think you said something like 'what's the point in breathing' (I can't really remember, sorry if that's wrong) and it did kinda lead me to relapse into self destructive behaviours. I don't think you should stop sharing on Snapchat but I do think you should put warnings up before you start talking about it💗💗 ily💗💗

love you dodie and hazel <3 i think that you need to be confident in your friends and strengthen the trust between you all, so that you feel more secure and okay to ask for help or just a rant session! i have no idea obviously about the situation you and your friends are in, and i'm not going to pretend i know, but sometimes you can be best friends with someone and still you haven't accepted and opened yourself up to trust them completely and know that you won't be a burden on them, and that you have friends because humans can't get through life alone!! we aren't meant to be superiorly strong and capable of absolutely everything, so why should we pretend to our closest friends that we love the most? :) it's difficult to ask for help or ask to talk to your friends about it honestly, because of the paranoia about being a burden for example or etc etc, but a really good way to ease yourself into accepting and opening yourself up to that trust is thinking, "if [friend] felt this way, and she talked to me, would i want them to tell me everything or would i think it was a burden?". because then it helps you realise that if you'd gladly accept to help them, they'd be more than happy helping you too! i think sharing and making this aware is great - i'm all for it. however, i think there's a line which you are navigating and exploring between sharing and oversharing, which has it's pros and cons. it's great that you help people, as it affects everyone differently and sometimes having people to relate to is comforting. however to some others, it's triggering. i can't possibly tell you to exactly know about everyone and cater to their triggers, but maybe a good suggestion is to talk about these things to camera when you're not on a low? i understand that it's extremely cathartic to talk on a low, but if you maybe wrote it down or recorded it privately thren you could have those exact emotions you wished to talk about and were able to talk to your audience about them when you were able to think a lil more rationally and were ina bit more control? i don't mean to offend you - i love what you do and i love your music. i just thought maybe a comment could help. i dunno :) stay awesome! and continue to make people smile and giggle and cry and most importantly, feel :)

I don't personally think you overshare. I think you say things online that a lot of people feel, and personally I can listen to all of your sad songs, watch all of your snaps, and other things and feel a little less alone. I think that your in depth descriptions, and the way you say things, it kind of helps define the undefinable things. Yes sometimes it sounds like you romanticize it sometimes, but anyone can romanticize anything. In truth getting into any sort of depth or becoming obsessed with anything can seem like romanticizing it. I just turned 18, and I can say that any kid who watches you and feels low, they probably can see the same things, even more negative things online then from your videos. Places like tumblr, and other websites are much worse. I don't want you to get worse, but I also don't want you to feel like it's your responsibility, or that you have to hold back on your thoughts and feelings. I don't think mental health is your brand, but I think hope is. From watching your videos, even the ones where you talk about the dark parts of life, I can see there is always hope somewhere in there. I believe that your light, is always shinning even if it gets covered in darkness and dust for long periods of time. I mean, its not your responsibility to take care of every person. You go through enough. My friend always tells me two phrases " you're only allowed to complain if you're doing something about it.", and "Your only responsible for you, as long as you don't go out of your way to hurt others, then you'd have to pay their medical bill." Just from watching you I can tell you are trying your darn best, and I respect that so much. So, thank you for always sharing. Please continue, and just try your best to recover. All anyone can really except from you is to try, because that can be so hard in itself.

doddlevloggle dodie, this video is so important. Everything hazel and your other friends say, it's true. It's like eating empty calories. I understand that you need to get your emotions out, but you should aim them AT A PERSON. Then, you can actually get help. There have been so many times when I've wanted to reply to your snapchats and talk to you about how you're feeling, but not been able to. It's healthier to talk to someone who can respond. I love you so so so much, and I only want what's best for you. Stay strong honey.

a piece of advice... keep sharing! what you share is important (through the good and bad) <br>i recently sold my iphone and switched to a basic ass phone (alcatel 2045) and I LOVE IT. easily the best decision ive made in a while. i know your job is very social media focused, but there is a point where you need to do something to change and you dont want it at the point where it is too late. I found myself at the point where mindlessly scrolling through every social media outlet not only took up so much of my time but filled a void where i made a "friend" for myself (dont know if that makes sense). having something as simple as a basic phone has made me realise whats important faster than i ever thought. i truly hope you seek the help you need and you find true happiness someday xxxx

a piece of advice... keep sharing! what you share is important (through the good and bad)
i recently sold my iphone and switched to a basic ass phone (alcatel 2045) and I LOVE IT. easily the best decision ive made in a while. i know your job is very social media focused, but there is a point where you need to do something to change and you dont want it at the point where it is too late. I found myself at the point where mindlessly scrolling through every social media outlet not only took up so much of my time but filled a void where i made a "friend" for myself (dont know if that makes sense). having something as simple as a basic phone has made me realise whats important faster than i ever thought. i truly hope you seek the help you need and you find true happiness someday xxxx

doddlevloggle this is amazing this conversation are amazing I seriously think you should keep doing this because it keeps you from going to far off of reality but it also help you (I hope) and makes you come to conclusion I love how you are honest with yourself in this conversation (obviously not implying that you are not honest with yourself at all times) because that's what make this video so raw and uncut I genuinely hope that you better from this conversation and I know you helped those that are watching this video (like me) and I hope you keep making videos like this love you

its lovely to have kind people who will carry off a bit of your darkness on their backs to lighten the load. but for those who already have a pitch black night sky on their backs, adding to it just might engulf them before the sun has a chance to come up.

its lovely to have kind people who will carry off a bit of your darkness on their backs to lighten the load. but for those who already have a pitch black night sky on their backs, adding to it just might engulf them before the sun has a chance to come up.

Okay, so this comment section is really divided, and I can see why. There are the people who do want you to stop, and there are the people who don't want you to stop. So how about this:

if you need to rant, or want to rant, do it. But put a disclaimer before you do so the people who don't want to watch it don't have to. I fall into the category where those snaps have actually helped me feel less alone. So I of course don't want you to stop. But do whatever you need to do babe. We're all here to support you <3

doddlevloggle  I feel the same way sometimes and I feel better that other people feel the same way it makes me feel so much better and I love you so much and thank you and I love you

doddlevloggle  I feel the same way sometimes and I feel better that other people feel the same way it makes me feel so much better and I love you so much and thank you and I love you

I think everything in life is so much balance that it's so good to keep yourself aware, like with this video, but in the end you gotta also accept that you'll never get it just right. There could always be someone who wishes your snaps would be different, just as there will always be someone who appreciates wholeheartedly each and every insta post. You're doing great now, and you'll only find the balance more as you go on in life; it's unrealistic to think you can ever really get it perfect, but it's also intelligent and insightful to post videos like this to check the temp of the audience. Don't apologize for it either way because we love and appreciate what you do regardless, and just want you to do what works for your lovely lil self <3

(also a random tip thingy; if you want to ease off of the snapchats but crave them for that release so you can sleep and such, I try recording all my thoughts in snaps and then only saving them to my memories. I don't post or send them, I just air it out to a camera because it gets it out there. And then, if I want, they're still there in the morning, to delete or not :) )

Your intense sharing has created an extremely close-feeling relationship between you and your fans. For me, I can't always watch your snap stories as it is just too excruciatingly painful to see you hurting so much. I think we all hope that you work on reaching out to people who can physically hug you, hold you close and make things better. <br>Try to let go of any guilt, any disappointment in yourself that has come from all of this and move on. Grab someone lovely and just curl up and cry until you find the strength to go on. As someone who struggles with depersonalization I find it so helpful to have a long cry with someone I trust, knowing that if I forget (or more likely form a hazy dream over) a happy moment they can be there to remind me. You deserve all the happiness in the world❤ I am certain that you will find that happiness someday.

Your intense sharing has created an extremely close-feeling relationship between you and your fans. For me, I can't always watch your snap stories as it is just too excruciatingly painful to see you hurting so much. I think we all hope that you work on reaching out to people who can physically hug you, hold you close and make things better.
Try to let go of any guilt, any disappointment in yourself that has come from all of this and move on. Grab someone lovely and just curl up and cry until you find the strength to go on. As someone who struggles with depersonalization I find it so helpful to have a long cry with someone I trust, knowing that if I forget (or more likely form a hazy dream over) a happy moment they can be there to remind me. You deserve all the happiness in the world❤ I am certain that you will find that happiness someday.

doddlevloggle I think sharing whatever you feel like you need or want to share is exactly what you should do. nobody else's happiness matters but yours to yourself and this this works and you're not hurting anyone. that's great! 😃 I feel like some people can't handle it because they might not being honest with themselves about how they are feeling and they want everything to be peachy and life isn't always peachy. we live in this digital world and everything is so different than when we didn't have it. no one really knows how this all is effecting us long term. so you gotta do what you gotta do. and everyone has the option to not watch what they don't want to and not force you to be who they want you to be. you are who you are. 😘

doddlevloggle I'd say it's not oversharing to us (your YouTube videos anyway, I don't follow your other accounts), so it's more about you and your health if anything :)

doddlevloggle I'd say it's not oversharing to us (your YouTube videos anyway, I don't follow your other accounts), so it's more about you and your health if anything :)

we love you dodie and we appreciate you for being so real, but we also want you to do what's best for yourself and the state that you're in, even if that means taking a break from snapchat/social media.

we love you dodie and we appreciate you for being so real, but we also want you to do what's best for yourself and the state that you're in, even if that means taking a break from snapchat/social media.

doddlevloggle Always seek help from friends and professionals, but talking about it and creating things from it is just as well, holding it in isn't healthy either so having a way to poor it our is a good thing. I came to realize alot of things about myself after hearing about what you've gone through and how you experience things. Obviously if you feel you need to change the way you share things than that is always your decisions, as it needs to be something you are comfortable with. But you talking and expressing these things really do help those of us who also struggle with similar things come to terms with them and realize that we also may need to seek help. Thank you for being open, even when you feel it isn't good, it does really help 💜

one more thing I want to say is that I recommend you put warnings before you share anything about mental health?

one more thing I want to say is that I recommend you put warnings before you share anything about mental health?

doddlevloggle I think I can say this on behalf of pretty much your whole audience but we really appreciate you sharing. Sharing your thoughts, sharing your feelings etc. I personally am not phased by your tweets, snaps, vids because I can relate and it makes me feel like I'm not alone. But I do agree with today's conversation, that you should be careful with what you say when you DO share.
This is a lovely video addressing the issue about short term vs. long term comfort/satisfaction. And as much as you could share your your thoughts with your audience, sometimes you should play your "safecard" and just talk to your friends. I understand that its embarrassing (I've been there. I've lost friends), but your true friends will shine through and stick with you.
Again, thanks for sharing, you superstar✨💖🌻

I watched your latest snapchat and I just felt like I should say, because of my overwhelming negative sounding comment, that I do appreciate that you addressed this. By addressing it you are showing that you realise something you are doing may have been, unintentionally, harmful and that you wish to make changes and grow as a person :)

I watched your latest snapchat and I just felt like I should say, because of my overwhelming negative sounding comment, that I do appreciate that you addressed this. By addressing it you are showing that you realise something you are doing may have been, unintentionally, harmful and that you wish to make changes and grow as a person :)

Dodie, it looks like maybe my earlier comments to you were deleted, being responses to a negative comment that now seems to have disappeared. Just in case you didn't see it, here's the essence of them: while I haven't seen the snapchats you refer to, thank you for sharing as much as you do about your mental health challenges. I think you're extremely brave for doing so, and it's helped me find the courage to more openly face my own. Your talks have been a voice of sanity and reason and courage on the topic in a way I don't otherwise see it on an ongoing basis elsewhere. No, I don't think you're oversharing in your videos, and no one is forcing people to watch those videos and conversations if they don't speak to them. I think you are beautiful, and you are an inspiration to me, and in sharing your beauty and struggles so openly and honestly, you have helped me find the beauty within myself where I had felt ugly and worthless for so long, and I intend to cite you by name as an inspiration for recovery in my story of childhood abuse I'm about to share publicly for the first time in the next week, and I hope we'll get to meet face to face some day. It's an unfortunate reality that we're often safer sharing our truth with strangers than our own family and friends, and hopefully it's a wakeup call for us all to be more emotionally available and less judgmental for them, lest they get what they need somewhere else. I don't think you have anything to apologize for in seeking that out, if your friends are unable or unwilling to meet your needs, if nothing else but by ability to relate. Also, while it's easy to write our mental health stories while we're in good places, I think it cheapens the conversation to only discuss it from a place of victory. It lends to the, "Everything is awesome!" culture in which superficiality perpetually displaces discussion of issues of real substance. The conversations from our darkest and most painful places are the ones that are presently the most lacking, and are the most necessary and relevant. Filtered discussion about these topics is not nearly as helpful as the unvarnished truth, and I believe the filtering too easily lends to people reading it feeling like they're broken, dirty, damaged, or otherwise different than others going through it, when the reality is that the person sharing their experiences may have simply not been brave enough to talk openly and candidly about their experiences for fear of tribunal in the court of public opinion. Being brave enough to move past that is in my opinion the real vulnerability that Brene Brown is talking about that we all so desperately need, to break down the walls of shame and secrecy that perpetuate problems: the radical self-honesty to be ok with not being ok.

P.S. Truth has nothing to do with popularity, number of views, or likes. The truth stands to cost you views, and while popular lies to increase them. The crowd went along with slavery and incarceration of gays and lesbians for nothing other than the crime of different attraction along with too many other bad things to possibly name, and this is no different. There are a lot of people out there struggling with mental health issues, and shame and secrecy hold them back from honest conversations even within themselves about it. This seems doubly so amongst men, where we are taught from a young age things like never cry, never show weakness, never ask for help.

definetly good to see you taking into account what you are doing

definetly good to see you taking into account what you are doing

ty for bringing attention to it all dodie n remember nobody is perfect and the wake-up call is what we all need sometimes :)

ty for bringing attention to it all dodie n remember nobody is perfect and the wake-up call is what we all need sometimes :)

i appreciate how honest u r because not many people r able to gather the courage to say how they feel. it makes me feel like I'm not alone. u r like the sister that i wish i had and everyone deserves. if u ever read this, i hope it makes your day because u make all of mine the best : )

i appreciate how honest u r because not many people r able to gather the courage to say how they feel. it makes me feel like I'm not alone. u r like the sister that i wish i had and everyone deserves. if u ever read this, i hope it makes your day because u make all of mine the best : )

Yep! I hope all the "avoiding your snapchat" doesn't make you feel guilty for talking about what you have going on, because I feel it's important for you to have that outlet. That being said I do agree with some of what Zannah is saying. Idk its quite tricky isn't it?

Yep! I hope all the "avoiding your snapchat" doesn't make you feel guilty for talking about what you have going on, because I feel it's important for you to have that outlet. That being said I do agree with some of what Zannah is saying. Idk its quite tricky isn't it?

pleaseeeeeeee keep sharing, it helps me so much , whenever i feel down i love listening to your raw uncut feelings, as i dont feel so alone <3

pleaseeeeeeee keep sharing, it helps me so much , whenever i feel down i love listening to your raw uncut feelings, as i dont feel so alone <3

pleaseeeeeeee keep sharing, it helps me so much

pleaseeeeeeee keep sharing, it helps me so much


"describe to me how you're feeling"<br>"oh fuck off"

"describe to me how you're feeling"
"oh fuck off"


Just uploaded a video response...I bloody LOVED this, sooo important to discuss <3

Melanie Murphy i read your comment in your accent lol


What would you be doing differently if you were going through these things but didn't have any sort of an audience? I think that may be an important question to ask yourself before posting certain things that you post. Your snapchats and Instagram captions just make it feel like you're wallowing in it, owning it, and using it for you art. It's important to communicate that how you're feeling isn't because of you as a person and it isn't something you consider as a part of you. That's how people become attached to it and don't want to let it go. That doesn't help anyone, including yourself. I don't mean this harshly, but I do think you very much rely on feeling mentally ill for who you are and who you appear to be online. It sends the wrong message. You say it's not part of your brand but you've literally released a book about it. I just want to see "Dodie", who happens to struggle with mental health, and not "mentally ill Dodie".

Haley Yarborough i definitely agree! i struggle myself with not becoming my mental illness. it's hard to be "G" and not "mentally ill G"

Haley Yarborough preach. I totally agree.

this was so well written and i couldn't have explained it better

Haley Yarborough this is really well said
put this up there
i hope she reads this!! ❤❤


"Explain how you're feeling"
"Oh fuck off"
Mooood


I'm a bit worried about what you said on creativity relating to mental illness. I consider myself a creative person, and I think a lot of my personality revolves around that, but a couple years ago when I was around 11 I started to get a lot of messages through various media implying or just outright saying that people who are creative must have mental illness. Obviously you're not saying that, but I do know that I was (and still am!) pretty impressionable, and these messages caused me to romanticize mental illness and feel as if my creativity, and by extension my personality, were invalidated. I still do struggle a little with these thoughts, and I have to remind myself that I do not want a mental illness, and feeling this way is unfair to people who have these problems.

@Melody Dulsenn wow i totally get what ur saying, however obviously depression and mental illnesses are different to everyone but if you ask most creative ppl who deal with it they will tell you that they're unable to create anything while they're depressed. that's my experience atleast. you're unable to do anything really. feeling sad can be a great way to find inspiration to be creative however depression rarely is. it is just in the way and so much time where you could have been creative or doing something fun you just spend lying in bed and feeling terrible. mental illness does not make you create art, it's just in the way. if i could feel good for a longer amount of time there is so much i could do. so yeah you should really feel happy that you don't have to deal with any mental illness, and if you want to create something just do it! u dont need to feel bad to do that :)


Here's an interesting thought (and this goes for making videos, not for snapchat lol) - go ahead and film the video when you're depressed/down/really not okay.  But WAIT TO UPLOAD IT for at least 24 hours (preferably more).  Make yourself take a step back from it and go "hmm, is this actually going to be helpful for my audience to see?"  Even if you never upload it, you still get the benefits of talking out your problems to the camera, which I sense is very therapeutic for you Dodie.

Yeah! Tbh it probably does take her 24 hours to post a video bc of editing and stuff but maybe waiting 24 hours before even editing at all! Or however much time she needs until she’s out of that pit

Totally agree! Was gonna post something similar to this myself

This is so smart. I do this too. When i want to rant to someone about some personal stuff i type it in my notes. but i wait to send it. and when i look at it again a few hours later im like.. wow thats probably not the best thing to say to this person. and it still helps me because i wrote it down w the intention to send it. I started doing it after i also had a problem with over sharing.

Elizabeth Aman that's actually an excellent idea.

This is a really great approach. On occasion, I've actually filmed videos that I had no intention of uploading just because I felt it was a helpful outlet for me.

Elizabeth Aman that's a really good idea! i think this could really help her

Elizabeth Aman smaaarrrttt I never thought of that

Elizabeth Aman did I exactly this! I filmed a video back in May when I was really Day and I've been changing the schedule release date ever since. I want to put it out on my channel but I'm waiting for a time when I'm really okay with putting it out in public!

that actually sounds like a really good idea???

I very much agree with this reaction as well

Elizabeth Aman I 100% agree. I've done that before with Youtube comments. I'll right an angry reply to someone's comment and then delete it before posting it and it helps me feel better even though I didn't post it.

Check out 'Healthy Crazy Cool' - he eats quite a bit of fat and I get a bit of meal inspo from there :)

This is very very good I support this idea 👍👍

a+ thinking- this sounds like a good idea

Elizabeth Aman bring this comment up there ppl!!!


I'm seeing a lot of 14/13 year olds commenting and while their opinion is so so valid, it just might be nice to hear something from someone your own age. I am such a huge fan of everything you make, - your videos, your music, your art- but Ive been discussing it with friends recently and we've all been turning away from your stuff a little bit. Many of my friends do suffer with medicated mental health problems, and while it is nice to have someone to relate to, it s almost like your shoving all your problems or dark thoughts onto your audience. I had a time in my life where I also had to question was I oversharing. I had around 1,500 followers on twitter, and while this is nothing comoared to your follower count and I was making very little impact, when I was sharing tweets when I was down, was I doing any good? It more just felt like shouting into a void- which I get can be nice but ultimitly youre never gonna get the same reaction/conversation you would have with a close friend. I spent a year shouting into the void of twitter when I was down, and none of it was the same as a 5 min conversation with my roommate. Its also so lovely to know you have all these supporters that are almost like a family- but you have to stop and think- theyre not.Were people who look up to you, and some even idolize. Its scary to see some 13/14 year olds commenting that they have mental health issues, and while im sure some are solid truth, it scares me that I think "are they really depressed? or do they just think its cool because of tumblr gifs and dodies insta?"

Sophie Watwood you don't get it. It's REALLY easy to become mentally ill when you romanticize it. Kids are influenced so easily, and they get immersed into trying to be "cool". To be quit honest, dodie has probably made quite a few teens fall into that pit of confusion, despair, and depression.

Sophie Flanagan as a 13/14 year old i really love this comment, thank you

Sophie Watwood but then by those, who I wouldnt say are deliberatly faking it, more projecting symptoms, are degrading people with actual diagnosed mental illness. A lot of people get anxious and nervous, but it seems revently the language has changed to "I have anxiety". Its the same with physical illness, language has changed there too, people who are suffering from head colds have the flu.. Its all getting mixed up. I PERSONALLY just feel people should maybe say " I feel depressed " " I feel anxious" rather than "I have anxiety/depression" until theyre diagnosed, and if it gets to a stage where youre worried seek help. Its not just spanning to young people but everyone. I see people my age making memes and funny tweets about disassosiating.. Its just.. Degrading to people taking meds and with a serious illness.

I realize that the romanticization of mental illness and degradation of respect for minors encourages skepticism about reported mental illness, but I'm really hesitant to worry that anyone might be "faking it," because it makes everyone, including those who actually suffer from mental illness at a young age, question the validity of their struggles. It's more important to trust young people and try to help them than to question and try to weed out those that "Aren't depressed enough."

Tracey Li yeah no doubt! Just look at hedy!

Marie Diamandis I wouldnt say it isnt fair, she can do whatever she likes on her youtube channel. but id her friends are saying they struggle to watch her vids/snaps, thats a massive red flag

Dani Yeah, I agree. As much as the younger audienes views are valid, i dont think it would be very normal for a 22 year old to take advice from a bunch of 13 year olds.

I also forgot to add that, I dont think helping others is a very valid reason for sharing. Its your own health, you need to be selfish and do whats best for you. Yes, it may help some people, but talks of mental health are on the rise now more than ever, you are not their only source of comfort.

Sophie Flanagan I don't think it's fair of her to treat her audience like a counsellor. She needs to restrict it to her counsellor, her diary, and a few close friends.

yes yes yes! i 100% agree with you, and it's great to see more people around dodie's age sharing their opinions. i'm not bashing the younger audience, it is definitely still valid, but i think it's the part of dodie's audience that she should really pay attention to.


it's really problematic to think that creative people are inherently depressed or crazy, c'mon guys that's just really wrong. that puts people in a bad position because people think you need to be fucked up to be creative, when it's just not true

Kind of is true. That’s why we make art.

that was exactly my point of view on this video - the idea that creatives are either mentally ill from their work or create because of their mental illness really annoyed me. I understand what they were trying to get at but I disliked the way they phrased it

it also invalidates creative people who aren't suffering from mental illness

I totally agree, also it's bad because it makes people who are more academic rather than creative (like me) feel like it's ok (what I mean by this is accepted and therefore easier for temporary to talk about/seek help for) for creative people to have mental illnesses and feel really down, but it's not ok for them to feel that way and no one will listen to them, understand what they're going through or accept that they have an issue.

Very true, I still created paintings when I was depressed and I still created paintings when I got rid of my depression and suicidal thoughts, you create because that's what you like, because that's you, not because of an illness, yes sometimes it's an outlet or an escape but regardless you still create

YES, i feel equal parts creative when im functioning or not functioning.

I think a more accurate reason is that sad and negative feelings need processing, through talking, creating or whatever else, whereas happy and positive feelings are just good and can exist without needing to be addressed or causing problems.
When I'm sad i'm more likely to spend time just on my own, and when thinking on my own i'm more likely to write a song. However, if i'm happy, i'm more likely to already be with people and doing a thing - just enjoying life for life.  Song writing, for me, is deffo fun, so I can write happy songs and make positive art, because of cOURSe happiness is a valid and substantial emotion, however, they don't seem so necessary for my well being bc happiness doesn't interfere with my life, it just is a part of it.

I think a more accurate reason is that sad and negative feelings need processing, through talking, creating or whatever else, whereas happy and positive feelings are just good and can exist without needing to be addressed or causing problems.
When I'm sad i'm more likely to spend time just on my own, and when thinking on my own i'm more likely to write a song. However, if i'm happy, i'm more likely to already be with people and doing a thing - just enjoying life for life.  Song writing, for me, is deffo fun, so I can write happy songs and make positive art, because of cOURSe happiness is a valid and substantial emotion, however, they don't seem so necessary for my well being bc *happiness doesn't interfere with my life, it just is a part of it.*

I am so angry they said it. It is so fucking stupid and dangerous


small suggestion after reading a few of the comments - maybe try keeping a journal? write down everything the way you would say it to a camera, or write on an instagram post, and then decide what you want to do with it after you've gotten it all down. hazel's got a point saying that she makes sure she doesn't post when she's at the bottom. getting your feelings out of your head is all well and good but if it goes out to a bunch of strangers, that's more harmful than helpful. keep talking about mental health though. it's important, and it helped me an awful lot. you continue to help me everytime you talk about ways you are trying to help yourself. focus on that with your social media stuff, maybe. use your friends or your music or your therapist/doctor for the darker stuff.

this is the only actually helpful comment i've seen so far. everyone's just talking about the "branding" and the self-pity, which i think is more directed towards offending rather than helping.


There are plenty of comments saying how your audience is impressionable, which is true. But apart from how it might affect your audience I think it's reallyyyy unhealthy for you.
You submerge yourself in that depressive state, indulging in how awful you feel. I think there's a difference between getting your feelings out and desperately desiring validation. Wanting attention is normal and human but you ask for it on such a huge scale and the more you get that validation of sweet comments from your followers the more you seem to crave it. The videos that you post nowadays seem to come more from a place of indulgence and desiring attention (a cry for help if you will) than honesty or information. And that quick shot of 'empty calories' makes you feel good momentarily but it doesn't help long-term. And the more you give in to that craving for validation, it'll just keep creating an unfulfillable need for it inside you.
Your instagram is a mess tbh, you keep posting dramatic captions about your problems while moaning about your theme and aesthetic. That contrast, that desire to make your mental illness 'pretty' is pure romanticising in my view. A bit of madness is not key, depression doesn't make you a creative person. Your creativity is completely separate from your mental illness. You can use it as fodder for your creations the same way that someone who's gotten divorced can do, but your depression isn't what makes you creative any more than that person's divorce is. And I think it's really dangerous for you to keep advertising/ insinuating that mental illness is necessary to be an artist. It isn't.

I see that La La Land reference!! <br>But seriously, it's true. When I was younger, I used to want to have a mental illness and would often intentionally make myself sad and make myself horrible. I intentionally starved myself until my mom noticed, two weeks later, and took me to the doctors. My body hasn't been able to function and I've been less than happy (I was diagnosed with a bipolar disorder, a few years later but that's not the point). I'm not blaming Dodie for this, there were other influences, but she helped in this. I take blame for what happened to me, I knew I shouldn't want a mental illness but I still did it, and have no one other than myself to blame. I'm not too sure how to explain why it's important that I add my story but I feel it is. Please tell me if it's not so I can edit it and just write about the audience and the effect on both her and her people.

I see that La La Land reference!!
But seriously, it's true. When I was younger, I used to want to have a mental illness and would often intentionally make myself sad and make myself horrible. I intentionally starved myself until my mom noticed, two weeks later, and took me to the doctors. My body hasn't been able to function and I've been less than happy (I was diagnosed with a bipolar disorder, a few years later but that's not the point). I'm not blaming Dodie for this, there were other influences, but she helped in this. I take blame for what happened to me, I knew I shouldn't want a mental illness but I still did it, and have no one other than myself to blame. I'm not too sure how to explain why it's important that I add my story but I feel it is. Please tell me if it's not so I can edit it and just write about the audience and the effect on both her and her people.

Robyn Robles abbbbsolutely. I'm glad I'm not the only who thought it was wrong to say that mental illness and creativity are always linked...

Besides indulding in how awful it feels I think like you, Dodie, prefer your audience than therapy - and that's a wrong thing to do for both sides.

Robyn Robles yes!!! This is exactly what I thought. You worded this very well.


I think there's a balance to be found for creators online. Personally i find it very helpful to hear someone like Dodie be open about their mental health, it makes me feel less isolated and like maybe i'm not a freak (of course logically most people know they are not alone in mental health struggles but feeling it is very different from objectively knowing it.) But at the same time they have to be cautious, not just for the audience who could be affected but for themselves, that 'empty calories' thing is a great description because it may not actually be a long term solution to only talk online about issues. Either way I'm so grateful to Dodie for everything shes done surrounding mental health online and I think Hazel's suggestion of talking about it more when you're out of the worst of it it a good idea ❤

It all boils down to how an individual receives/consumes the content she uploads and whether they are able to gauge for themselves weather her vivid descriptions of mental health are helpful or harmful to them as a viewer. It can be subconscious, but often detaching yourself from those posts can help since that way you can still empathize but not let it drag you under too, since that seems to be the problem many have.


I'm very fortunate that I don't suffer from depression, but I love to watch you, your snaps, instagram stories, etc. But even I think to myself that sometimes when you are going into such detail (not so much your instagram posts, those are beautifully worded) as someone who a lot of young impressionable people look up to, it may make them feel hopeless, like "if of all people Dodie has all this going on in her life, and trying everything and it isn't helping her, there's definitely no hope for me" at the same time, a good balance of it may help, because people are able to relate. But perhaps avoid too much detail that could be resolved with only your friends? Regardless, you're an incredible human Dodie and even though you're younger than me, I truly look up to you x


dodie makes me get into a sad mood every time i watch something about her sad times so i stopped watching her bc it wasn't good for me mentally, but i hope after this she realizes what an impact she has on her audience... but at the same time i do think she should share and let people know it's not just them... i'm really not sure how i feel about her over sharing

I totally agree- I did the same thing. i think the problem here is that she is just rambling it all out in the moment, like Hazel said. If she was describing her experience, letting people they aren't alone, after when she has had time to sit on it, feel better, and find something constructive to do when in those moments. right now it is just documenting exactly how she's feeling (which i personally can't handle) instead of processing it and reflecting on it healthily. in the end of the day, it isn't really healthy for us or for her.


Hey dodie, I just watched your snapchat and I've decided to share with you what exactly was helpful to me and what I thought was doing more harm than good. I  think most of your youtube videos are really helpful, the one I remember the most is the one you made with tessa a good while back and you talked about therapy and what to do even if you can't afford it and that it's ok to go even if you're not diagnosed with something. And this video for instance you both were very honest about things you do which aren't necessarily healthy, and you're seeking your fans input which I also think is great.

The biggest thing that I thought was really negative was when you were sharing how the meds affected you day by day. I study psychology and I see how people, including psychology students, already carry a lot of stigma around meds. I understand that they don't work for everyone and they can also have some pretty shitty side effects, but perhaps there was someone in your audience who was debating whether to go on them and was seeking personal experiences and you kinda drove them away. I understand you were so numb during that period, this probably didn't even cross your mind. But something like that I would have appreciated it if you had after you've had the conversation with your therapist and friends, you then made an informed video describing how they affected you and how certain types just don't work for everyone.

I understand, only very recently did mental illness even become a thing that people are aware off, and you're probably the first generation to be dealing with it around the internet. It's difficult, I don't blame you.

(One last thing about this video particularly, when you guys were talking about how there's a big overlap between creating and being mental- that's true,but think about all the times where your mental illness prevented you from getting up and creating. And think about the many many people who don't have something like that, who are just office workers for example, but they're still ill,  I personally feel like this kinda makes me feel bad because I can't even make anything out of the feelings, you get me? Just a little thing I thought I'd mention)

I'm so sorry this is so long if you read it, and I really believe things will get better ❤❤

as a psychology student, the reason I have a negative impression of medication is because they're offered as a first and often only treatment, when actually CBT has been proven to be just as effective as medication without all the side effects. Fewer than 10% of people with diagnoses of psychosis are offered psychotherapies which are proven to alleviate symptoms and prevent relapse while upwards of 99% of them are offered medications which cause massive weight gain as a primary side effect (and I don't mean like going up a dress-size or two... I mean morbid obesity which massively impacts quality of life and physical health). Talking about the negatives of mental health medication is incredibly important, especially considering that many doctors don't even consider the side effects or offer any alternatives. If someone watching was put off medication and instead sought different, just as effective treatments then that's no bad thing imo.

Aliaa Adi I'm so glad someone else pointed this out. At first, I was almost excited to see someone who I had been following for a while talk openly about her journey and experience with medication online but it got really triggering really fast. For me specifically, it was when she announced publicly what antidepressants she was going on - they happened to be the same ones as my own - and how bad her reaction to it was. She complained that it made her numb, and I worried that I had become numb but just not fully realised. She celebrated stopping them in a such a confident way that made me doubt my own, rather shaky process of coming off. I was already struggling with independence from meds and the all negatives, no positives view of the same journey that I was experiencing was plastered over all of my social medias. Honestly, it really got to me. I know this is a super personal reaction (I'm actually probably oversharing now) but it was at that point that I started to question how healthy the whole "constant ranting about mental health but only when my mental health is bad" thing actually was. I am young. I know I am impressionable and naïve and I tend to overdramatise. However, I also know the mental state some of Dodie's more recent content put me in; the things I was seeing weren't healthy for me or, apparently, her.<br>I'm sorry to rant and I have a lot of respect for Dodie, but this couldn't have come soon enough. I am so happy that with this (and the follow up video), Dodie is showing real concern and seems to want to change things for the better. Hopefully in the future the conversation that she has started will be a little healthier for all of us.

Aliaa Adi I'm so glad someone else pointed this out. At first, I was almost excited to see someone who I had been following for a while talk openly about her journey and experience with medication online but it got really triggering really fast. For me specifically, it was when she announced publicly what antidepressants she was going on - they happened to be the same ones as my own - and how bad her reaction to it was. She complained that it made her numb, and I worried that I had become numb but just not fully realised. She celebrated stopping them in a such a confident way that made me doubt my own, rather shaky process of coming off. I was already struggling with independence from meds and the all negatives, no positives view of the same journey that I was experiencing was plastered over all of my social medias. Honestly, it really got to me. I know this is a super personal reaction (I'm actually probably oversharing now) but it was at that point that I started to question how healthy the whole "constant ranting about mental health but only when my mental health is bad" thing actually was. I am young. I know I am impressionable and naïve and I tend to overdramatise. However, I also know the mental state some of Dodie's more recent content put me in; the things I was seeing weren't healthy for me or, apparently, her.
I'm sorry to rant and I have a lot of respect for Dodie, but this couldn't have come soon enough. I am so happy that with this (and the follow up video), Dodie is showing real concern and seems to want to change things for the better. Hopefully in the future the conversation that she has started will be a little healthier for all of us.

I didn't know she got off from medication. That is so stupid. You need to take at least for a month for it to start working

this was worded so well!! put this up there, i hope she reads this ❤❤

Aliaa Adi i also had an issue with the way she portrayed medication. i had really bad symptoms from the first two rounds of medication i tried, and very little positive impact, but on my third try  it helped me so much and i'm so glad i continued trialling. i worry that her descriptions of medication will put people off, particularly young people, especially as there's already such a stigma around it

Yeah, and especially that she just went off them so quickly, it takes quite a bit of time to adjust to them and for them to really start giving an effect, the same with the TMS, most studies follow people who have been using the treatment for at least 6 months if not a year or more. Again, I understand it could be very difficult, but at least hold out a bit before sharing such sensitive details to a large audience. I know that she has good intentions of helping remove the shame in the struggle and all, and I love her so much, I just hope she handles this stuff a little better in the future.

this comment is so perfectly worded. it's hard in the moment when you are suffering from side effects to care, but the way she talked about her meds and the implications worried me. meds are SO helpful, but the chances of you getting the right ones on the first try are so slim. and the fact that she just went off of them without the doctor scared me- never do this! especially never tell kids it is okay to do this! it is so dangerous. it has taken me five different medications to finally come up with the right ones with the right combo, and it is always subject to change. we not only have to spread the message that medication is positive- but that it is worth sticking with and pairing with positive coping mechanisms.


This is very relatable, my little brother passed away a couple months ago and I'm still having nightmares and trying to take care of everyone else and listening to you talk about your feelings actually makes me feel better. You working through your thoughts and emotions helps me feel okay with mine. And your music helps me a lot as well. I love you and thank you for being you !


I absolutely aspire to be half as much of an amazing person as dodie. She's completely an amazing person, and absolutely my favorite youtuber, singer, and internet person. I love her. It'd be an absolute dream to meet her

EstelleFoxy Glad i could help you a bit 🍀🍀🍀

Jullianne De La Cruz no problem, glad i could help

HowaboutRe d that's really true, thanks a lot

HowaboutRe d Just wanna say thank you for that insight, I don't know why but it really resonated with me and changed a little part in my mind for the better. :)

One fucking thing. You're just as amazing as Dodie. Being a good singer, creating things or being a YouTuber surely are fun, aesthetic, things. But aesthetics are overrated: it is about personality . Just imagine: if Dodie would have been still as talented, but a total jerk people would not like her. So, if you try just to be a nice person and be kind, you are the best person (so just as good as Dodie is). You will eventually become  more confident and be able to let your talents grow and become who you want to be!!!
(hope this made sense lol)
byeeeeeee good luck kid🍀🍀🍀


I love how these comments are very civilized, even with the people who don't agree with your full statements the reply comments are so calm and straight forward. Love the community! <3 Plz get better soon Dodie and keep up the good work!

ps. plz look into the "over sharing to much mental health situation" cause at times your vids really help me, but sometimes when things get bad they sometimes do the opposite. Love you! <3


I don't watch your snaps anymore or follow you on insta but I had a stalk though and I get why people say you romanticize mental illness. There are these pretty, aesthetic photos that clearly took effort with poetic descriptions of mental illness - which just isn't art. A song about your feelings - that's understandable. That's your job, and all musicians take inspiration from their pain.<br>Also I've never once heard you talk about treatment or coping mechanisms, except for when you spoke about therapy a few times which suddenly stopped - and after months and months, seeing you still only post about the negatives, it can send the message that it never gets better. When talking about mental illness online, it's so important to include helpful information to people who are suffering. It just kind of comes across as you only talking about mental illness when you need to complain about it. Kinda like you're talking about yourself, not mental illness if that makes sense? I get that it's an outlet/cry for help, but with such a large audience - that can be really damaging and you have to consider that before posing these snaps. If you spoke more about the treatments, the progress you make and help that's available, that's more acceptable but honestly all I see is romanticizing instagram posts and videos of you just talking about how bad things are. I do hope you get help, but honestly your audience doesn't ever hear about you getting help and that's the wrong message to send out regarding mental illness

I don't watch your snaps anymore or follow you on insta but I had a stalk though and I get why people say you romanticize mental illness. There are these pretty, aesthetic photos that clearly took effort with poetic descriptions of mental illness - which just isn't art. A song about your feelings - that's understandable. That's your job, and all musicians take inspiration from their pain.
Also I've never once heard you talk about treatment or coping mechanisms, except for when you spoke about therapy a few times which suddenly stopped - and after months and months, seeing you still only post about the negatives, it can send the message that it never gets better. When talking about mental illness online, it's so important to include helpful information to people who are suffering. It just kind of comes across as you only talking about mental illness when you need to complain about it. Kinda like you're talking about yourself, not mental illness if that makes sense? I get that it's an outlet/cry for help, but with such a large audience - that can be really damaging and you have to consider that before posing these snaps. If you spoke more about the treatments, the progress you make and help that's available, that's more acceptable but honestly all I see is romanticizing instagram posts and videos of you just talking about how bad things are. I do hope you get help, but honestly your audience doesn't ever hear about you getting help and that's the wrong message to send out regarding mental illness

mads being someone who hasn't been happy in 2 years, THAT was gross to read. I'm not saying that her feelings shouldn't be validated, but she has viewers who are teenagers. Do you have any fucking clue how vulnerable and gullible teens can be? When they see people like this, wallowing in self-pity and grossly romanticizing mental illness PUBLICLY, they think it's "cool". Kids are obsessed with that image of "coolness" and immerse themselves in mental illness. Do you UNDERSTAND how easy it is for those kids to fall into that pit of depression? Do you understand what kind of impact this woman has? To be frank, she has probably made quite a few teens depressed. How would you feel if you knew that YOU were the reason a kid started cutting him/herself. How SELFISH can you be? Look, I know what it's like to wallow in self pity and wallow in depression and wallow in anxiety and wallow in self hatred and wallow in the feeling of worthlessness, but I would NEVER wish this suffering on anyone, especially A CHILD! WHAT SHES DOING IS NOT HEALTHY, NEITHER FOR HERSELF NOR FOR OTHERS. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND A TERRIBLE INFLUENCE. It is utterly selfish. She should get help from a therapist, not from a bunch of confused and vulnerable teens. I understand that she might not be in her right mind, maybe she's gotten too used to this feeling of being validated, too immersed in her own illness, but that doesn't change the fact that what she's doing is COMPLETELY WRONG. I'm a teenager myself actually, and although I'm suffering, I would never ever wish this on someone else. That's cruel. I know she doesn't mean to, but it needs to stop.

+mads I get what you're saying, but you may have a perfectly fine reaction to it, but of course everyone is different and I think a majority not being harmed isn't enough to cancel out the potential harm it could do for some viewers. E.g - influencing a lot of her audience to think they have the disorder, upsetting people, her friends who have to watch it and feeling guilty etc. I'm not saying she should have some fake-happy persona all the time but if she;s going to have this platform as her job, there needs to be a level of professionalism to it. Celebrities talk about their struggles with mental illness, but they don't sit at an interview or do a live-stream when they're super vulnerable and breaking down. I don't mean to bash her at all, I'm sure she's lovely and she's good at what she does, you can tell she puts a lot of work into her content, but there's a line when you share personal information online. When talking about such sensitive topics, it needs to be done in constructive manner. I do think when she's feeling low and wants to talk to snapchat or make a video to vent, she could try filming it and not uploading it until that wave of emotion has passed. That way she can really step-back and decide whether it's something that's a)worth putting on her youtube channel and b) helpful - or at least not harmful to her audience. I'm not saying she shouldn't wallow in her sadness, but it's not something she needs to do in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

SAFFRON MCDOUGAL I disagree, on Snapchat Dodie often talks about her treatment and seems to have a more positive outlook on the days Ive seen

I get that, I write about my feelings too but it's the frequency and the way it's done that bothers me personally. Of course it's her own social media at the end of the day so she's entitled to post whatever she wants, but it's an interesting discussion that's going around

I don't think posting an image and writing a steam of consciousness is wrong tbh. I've done that before on my finsta and sometimes I've mildly vented  on twitter. To me it feels therapeutic and kind of like I'm screaming into a void.

AhI didn't know that as I don't follow her, I used to be a massive fan but I kinda drifted out of it. I'm glad she's been talking about treatment. I do think she talks about mental illness in a way that's maybe too...idk I don't want to say self-centred because that has really negative connotations but seeing as her followers can't snapchat her, I feel like it's very one-sided. Like her fans are not her friends, they're not her therapist, and it could come across as she's using he platform for gratification I guess? Like I doubt she spends a lot of time talking to her fans about their mental illnesses, and I've never seen her talk positively about it (i mean she might have done, as I saId I don't really follow her anymore). And I don''t mean to say she should be happy about mental illness, however when discussing it with a large audience, I personally think it should be educational too  - for example, I have a blog about BPD as I suffer with it, and I make sure to include information about the disorder and links to more information, help advice, coping mechanisms etc. If I didn't do those things, my blog would just be my diary but for anyone to see which wouldn't be helpful for myself or the people reading it if that makes sense? Also thank you for correcting me in a polite manner and not jumping down my throat for making a mistake, see far too much of that online!

hello! Just wanted to say, as she IS a musician she is also a writer, so if you're saying she's entitled to write music because of her job, then she'd also be entitled to write the captions she writes. To me, personally, her captions are not romanticized. I don't think an instagram caption should always go with the picture (it rarely ever does these days tbh). I do understand where you come from, but I really don't think she's doing intentionally. I personally don't find her captions to be all poetic and sugar coated. On the contrary, they're probaby too raw. It's been her captions and sc stories that have made me say "I am very lucky to be in the place that I am now, and i should use that healthy place to help others". Obviously, they can ALSO be triggering to those who aren't in the same place as i am. <br>On another note, idk where on social media you follow her, but she has talked about her medication a LOT since she started taking it. She talked about it during vidcon (on sc) and how it made her feel and how what she was experiencing was the side effects on medication. She explained how she felt (on twitter) a few weeks into the medication and i believed she stopped taking them, which she also has been talking about recently.

hello! Just wanted to say, as she IS a musician she is also a writer, so if you're saying she's entitled to write music because of her job, then she'd also be entitled to write the captions she writes. To me, personally, her captions are not romanticized. I don't think an instagram caption should always go with the picture (it rarely ever does these days tbh). I do understand where you come from, but I really don't think she's doing intentionally. I personally don't find her captions to be all poetic and sugar coated. On the contrary, they're probaby too raw. It's been her captions and sc stories that have made me say "I am very lucky to be in the place that I am now, and i should use that healthy place to help others". Obviously, they can ALSO be triggering to those who aren't in the same place as i am.
On another note, idk where on social media you follow her, but she has talked about her medication a LOT since she started taking it. She talked about it during vidcon (on sc) and how it made her feel and how what she was experiencing was the side effects on medication. She explained how she felt (on twitter) a few weeks into the medication and i believed she stopped taking them, which she also has been talking about recently.


yo everyone saying shes oversharing: before adding to the cesspool of "shes oversharing and needs to seek help" comments, speaking from experience telling someone that they're oversharing whilst in the mindset dodie seems to be in, is quite dangerous, and true she did ask, but constantly feeling annoying to your friends due to your mental state that you're struggling to patch up, is really painful, you can really only tell your friends your sob stories a few times before you feel like they stop caring. dodie needs to know people care; so please just let her vent her heart out to an audience she feels she can depend on

Kylie thank you for writing that comment, it was really nice to see it instead of an oversharing comment😊


personally I admire the fact that you share soo much online. it is courageous and it makes me feel way less alone knowing that there are such kind and wonderful people like you going through the same thing as me. it makes me feel like i have someone with me when i have no one, thank you<333


(I wrote this a little while ago. it’s a bit dramatic, but it's been sitting in my google docs as 'future dodie comment' and it's the future now, so here)<br>dearest dodie, I just read your instagram post about feeling depressed in the LA gloom during vidcon. It made my heart dip in a particularly heavy way. It isn’t unusual for me to read your captions and feel touched in some way, but this was different. About two days before, I had met you after your amazing show at the Echoplex. I remember standing outside the venue, completely expecting you to leave in a car, or out of a different exit. After all, you must have been exhausted and the show did not include a meet and greet! But instead, you chose to come outside and meet literally everyone standing there. You were so incredibly sweet and patient as you took pictures, signed merch, and talked to everyone. When you got to me, I felt so small and shy (seeing so many other people adoring you intimidated me a bit), but you listened to me speak with such genuine eyes and caring facial expressions that I felt...important. On the uber ride home, I was simply buzzing with joy and a perpetual mindset of eeeeeeeee! Then, today, I saw your post. In that moment my mind lashed out (at the fog? at your brain chemicals? at the world? idek) and passionately exclaimed *how dare mental health be so shit and harm this kind thoughtful human ARGH* I suppose this is my long-winded way of saying that you deserve so much joy, because you fill so many others with joy. I hope your mind becomes a sunnier place.you are amazing. and so strong. so. damn. strong. -Carrie   PS I was the girl who told you that I’m taking a gap year to pursue writing. I handed you a small notebook to sign.

(I wrote this a little while ago. it’s a bit dramatic, but it's been sitting in my google docs as 'future dodie comment' and it's the future now, so here)
dearest dodie, I just read your instagram post about feeling depressed in the LA gloom during vidcon. It made my heart dip in a particularly heavy way. It isn’t unusual for me to read your captions and feel touched in some way, but this was different. About two days before, I had met you after your amazing show at the Echoplex. I remember standing outside the venue, completely expecting you to leave in a car, or out of a different exit. After all, you must have been exhausted and the show did not include a meet and greet! But instead, you chose to come outside and meet literally everyone standing there. You were so incredibly sweet and patient as you took pictures, signed merch, and talked to everyone. When you got to me, I felt so small and shy (seeing so many other people adoring you intimidated me a bit), but you listened to me speak with such genuine eyes and caring facial expressions that I felt...important. On the uber ride home, I was simply buzzing with joy and a perpetual mindset of eeeeeeeee! Then, today, I saw your post. In that moment my mind lashed out (at the fog? at your brain chemicals? at the world? idek) and passionately exclaimed *how dare mental health be so shit and harm this kind thoughtful human ARGH* I suppose this is my long-winded way of saying that you deserve so much joy, because you fill so many others with joy. I hope your mind becomes a sunnier place.you are amazing. and so strong. so. damn. strong. -Carrie   PS I was the girl who told you that I’m taking a gap year to pursue writing. I handed you a small notebook to sign.

I am overwhelmed by the support this comment got----oh my gooodnesss!

In response to the video topic (while this comment can be seen aha) I think that dodie's 'oversharing' is helpful to her and some others in the short-term, but in the long-term, it can be unhealthy. I think the benefits of opening up to close friends will not only help dodie grow, but teach her audience how to cope through example. In moderation, being open is very healthy and important though, so I hope she doesn't hold back too much (not that I see this open book closing anytime soon lol. that's why we love her!) <333

Carrie Almir dodie definitely will see this comment at some point. She reads our comments not only when she's happy but when she's down and TRUST ME, I know this was a general comment of expression, but as a musician myself, to know your music touches someone else and not only that but dodie as a human being can touch so many, this will pick her up a bit

Carrie Almir This was so lovely! I really hope Dodie takes a moment to read your comment! Also, please do pursue writing, because you've got something going for you! I can see it in this comment alone ❤.

Carrie Almir I hope she sees this amazing comment xx


I guess how I feel about the topic is this. Your openness was refreshing at first to me, because it was nice to see someone who was able to express their feelings that were similar to mine. However, the sheer volume of you expressing how you're feeling became very triggering. I dealt with a lot of depression and anxiety, and after starting meds, I started to feel better. And that's when the snapchats and vids became triggering to me.

I think we need to be careful and think about the age of your viewers and how impressionable they are. It is important to talk about mental illness obviously, but also important not to flood your audience with negativity.

Anna  <br>This definitley isn't to be rude, but if it is really that bad for you, maybe you personally should try not to watch or look at her social media when you are feeling happy or good because she shouldn't have to filter her feelings for an audience. No one should. That could be damaging for her because if it makes  feels better when she expresses what she's feeling, and then she can't do that because people get upset with her for it, it might make her feel worse. When it all could have been avoided if the people who got upset just regulated themselves from looking at her pages.

Anna
This definitley isn't to be rude, but if it is really that bad for you, maybe you personally should try not to watch or look at her social media when you are feeling happy or good because she shouldn't have to filter her feelings for an audience. No one should. That could be damaging for her because if it makes  feels better when she expresses what she's feeling, and then she can't do that because people get upset with her for it, it might make her feel worse. When it all could have been avoided if the people who got upset just regulated themselves from looking at her pages.


I'm so, so glad you're recognizing this for yourself dodie. Much love. <3


I've been a subscriber for years and a few times I've considered stopping watching your videos because they've been progressively negative lately and I thought this may not help with my own mental health, but I can never bring myself to leave because I'm so invested in you as a person and I love you so much that even if I'm never noticed and can never make a difference, I can't stop trying and being there for support


I can't relate. I'm really happy.<br>The thing is, I spent so much time in those specific fandoms and places on the Internet that I suddenly wonder what's wrong with me because I'm just content with my life.

I can't relate. I'm really happy.
The thing is, I spent so much time in those specific fandoms and places on the Internet that I suddenly wonder what's wrong with me because I'm just content with my life.

Hey, two years late but are you still good? Feel lucky you’re happy!


These mental health videos are so important, because it is important to talk about what you're feeling. Even if you don't tell us everything that you're experiencing, you should definitely confide in a friend. But thank you Dodie for being able to share with us, your videos help so many people feel less alone who are experiencing the same/similar things.


I love how you share, it makes me know I'm not alone❤. Even thought we don't have a conversation I feel like you and other popular YouTubers are there for me.