I'm very very empathetic and very emotionally sensitive, so although I'm not deeply mentally ill, when I see anxious people, when I hear descriptions of depression and see someone I love very depressed I too feel, in my own way, low and not for the same reasons as you or as others but for my own reasons and then I've dived down into the dark  parts of my own brain and for hours I'll stay low simply because I've been reminded of the shadowy parts of MY brain. Also I think it's interesting about the creative thing because I'm very creative and am always making things and I'm now thinking about them and they're all based off of my anxious times and low days and a lot of my art is like a head and then a hole in the head and thoughts leaking out of it (oddly specific but I've used that format multiple times) and also I write lil songs and poems and they're often about my brain but I think that that kind of art can be selfish and we should look outwards and focus on others and not swim around in the shadowy parts of our brain searching for inspiration, instead swimming around the good parts of our brains and the pretty things outside the window to find things that will bring joy and rest and encouragement not only to ourselves but to those who interact with what we create.


I doubt anyone will read this whole thing but if you do thank you <br>Dodie , I'm almost 14 and I'm scared,I'm attracted to girls,and boys so if you wanna label it I'm bi and the only person that knows is a friend of mine from year 10 and she found out because it just kinda slipped in a conversation but she's really supportive and has told knowone but I don't wanna be a year 9 loner that people are scared to be friends with because they automatically assume that you're attracted to them and one of my friends said to me once  that they would be friends with me no matter what my sexuality but I'm scared that if it comes to it then my friends won't know what to do or they might hate me and I tried to tell my dad and he said that whatever I choose he won't care and he'll still love me ☹ thanks to anyone who read this whole thing I just needed to say something because I feel like there has to be someone online who can help me ❤

I doubt anyone will read this whole thing but if you do thank you
Dodie , I'm almost 14 and I'm scared,I'm attracted to girls,and boys so if you wanna label it I'm bi and the only person that knows is a friend of mine from year 10 and she found out because it just kinda slipped in a conversation but she's really supportive and has told knowone but I don't wanna be a year 9 loner that people are scared to be friends with because they automatically assume that you're attracted to them and one of my friends said to me once  that they would be friends with me no matter what my sexuality but I'm scared that if it comes to it then my friends won't know what to do or they might hate me and I tried to tell my dad and he said that whatever I choose he won't care and he'll still love me ☹ thanks to anyone who read this whole thing I just needed to say something because I feel like there has to be someone online who can help me ❤

Katie Willoughbyłłlłł sorry Hun. I'm a 14 yr old girl from the uk and quite a few of my friends have come out as gay or bi and from what I am aware none of them have been treated badly for it. I am straight so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to, however I can defo listen (@jasmyn.shah on Instagram) and I think that if you are defiantly sure you could consider telling a random person or your closest friend that you mentioned In this para. That was extremely long and probs just blabbering on about nothing but I believe In you Hun x


You definitely romanticize and overshare quite a lot. This is totally okay especially when it's just talking to your friends, ya know, but you have such a YOUNG audience, and it's very scary that kids that don't know what depression is see you talking about it and suddenly want to be special "like DODIE!!!". Definitely not your intention, and you are validated to talk about your feelings and yourself, but perhaps you definitely should rely on your friends while you're in the throes of it and then talk about it online LATER, when you're not as sad and spaced out. I know this can be really hard, especially if you're sad ALL THE TIME, but sharing it with your entire audience is a bit much. I know this is very strange, because if I were to share something about depression on social media, the only people who would see it are people I actually know, like my friends and peers, but if you  were to do the same thing, it would show up for ALL of your fans. Maybe you can try a private instagram to share with your friends and people you know? It could let you release emotions without them taking a toll on your audience.

Best of luck!!! Thank you for addressing this!

That's all true, and none of this is attacking dodie, it's just how her fans see the things she posts. I just want her to know, since she asked for opinions, that a lot of this can be very damaging to young people who watch these videos. She romanticizes a bit especially when she talks about how she needs depression to make art, and she can turn her sadness into art, which makes young people see it as this beautiful, artsy thing. But, you're right, we don't know her, and that's exactly the point. She doesn't need to share this with us. She can be open without making young people feel hopeless and strive to be "mental" like her.

Eeedeee 666 I guess I can see your side, but you also CANNOT say that she doesn't have a "real drinking problem". Only she can know what is hard for her. And you can't say what she meant by 'scars' either. But thank you for explaining!<br>Also, she said that she DOESN'T want it to be her brand and that she never intended it to be a part of her brand.

Eeedeee 666 I guess I can see your side, but you also CANNOT say that she doesn't have a "real drinking problem". Only she can know what is hard for her. And you can't say what she meant by 'scars' either. But thank you for explaining!
Also, she said that she DOESN'T want it to be her brand and that she never intended it to be a part of her brand.

Rumer Priestly thankyou so much for this

Tyler it's hard to explain what glamourising or romanticising is because often it isn't obvious. It's just the way she has it almost as an accessory and acts like its part of her brand. She talks about it in a way that seems like she's trying to be cool or edgy. Like when she suddenly came out as having a drinking problem, even though she drinks a normal amount of alcohol for someone her age. She then started drinking again a couple weeks later and posting it all over snapchat, which is hard for people with real drinking problems to watch (especially if they were inspired by her video to stop drinking). She also made a tweet recently saying 'your scars make you beautiful' and even though she wasn't saying 'self harm scars' it was very obvious what she was implying. Scars DO NOT make you beautiful. It's good to accept yourself but calling them beautiful is dangerous since she has such a young audience. I am covered in scars and I'm learning to accept them but calling them beautiful makes me very angry.

Jessica Pan a lot of the problem is that younger people seem to WANT a mental illness, almost romanticising it, as though it makes you interesting and unique and cool. So many teens self-diagnose and go around saying/insisting they have BPD or depression or anxiety as if it's cute or sweet, as if sadness is romantic and beautiful. It's so incredibly toxic. Like, find me a single person on tumblr that doesn't say they have depression and anxiety.

I think kids need to be told by those they look up to that they can't give themselves a diagnosis, that they need to see a doctor and find out about what's going on from a professional rather than deciding "I get sad sometimes and I worry so I have depression and anxiety". Mental illness isn't cool or fun or cute or romantic. It's fucking HORRIBLE, and not something people should want.

They need to realise that they're just moulding themselves to fit a diagnosis and not continue to insist that they're mentally ill. It's very frustrating to see kids do that.

Jessica Pan I'm not trying to be rude at all, but can you explain how she's romantising? I'm genuinely just trying to understand, because I'm not sure I do :)


i think it's good that u have an outlet, i appreciate u bringing awareness and not making so 'taboo' to talk about your mental state. still, sometimes i need to skip thru ur snapchats sometimes cuz if i'm having a good day, seeing u really down saddens me. ur an inspiration to me and i'm SO GLAD U HAVE AN OUTLET BUT PLS USE UR FRENS. like u said, maybe distance urself from social media when ur at ur complete worst and have a day with your frens :) love form puerto rico 🇵🇷❤💎


I get both perspectives a lot. I have really shit mental health days and tend to pour my heart out to myself in the car instead of talking to peoole, but the analogy is very true. It feels nice to get it out, but i never feel actually better. It's just enough to get to sleep usually.


I have a question, do you guys think you should make a video about something while it still hurts? ... like is it important to move on from something first to look at it objectively and see the full picture?... there is something I really want to make a video about because I feel like it might be helpful to some people who are in the same position.. but every time I script it out, or start thinking through it, it still aches.


This is a really interesting video, because (like Hazel said) I have had to avoid your content a bit despite the fact that I love you and care about you and how you're doing, and I feel guilty. But I can't really read all of your instagram posts and your videos because I find it can be very difficult, especially when I'm going through something similar and I'm unable to help.


i hope to be that wise at that age, its actually unbelievable <3


Please keep sharing, cause I feel I can relate and feel more connected and less alone


I'm conflicted about this. One part of me begs you to continue opening up as much as you do because it doesn't make me feel so alone and it's a moment of oMG SAME THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. But because you're famous, you have a million + subscribers and each one of them care so deeply about you and my comments of how much I thank you for being honest with you're mental health because I can relate on such a deep personal level are just lost in a sea of comments. It's difficult because I feel like I can connect to you so much but I'm so detached from you at the same time and it makes me feel so bitter because if I made insta captions pouring my heart out or if I message people I know I am turned away so easily. I have to suffer in silence. Please realise how lucky you are that your friends are offering and telling you to call them or tell them how crap you are feeling or telling the world how shitty you feel and having thousands of comments that tell you how great and wonderful you are. But tbh I'm not against you oversharing it's a coping mechanism for me to hang onto someone that is going through the same thing or a similar thing as me ♥


9:21 "Suffering is a part of human existence, we weren't intended to just exist and be happy all the time, and if you didn't suffer you would be able to tell the happiness apart from it." Thank you


hazel's and zannah's opinions are Everything i've been feeling and why i've unfollowed dodie on twitter, snapchat, and instagram and took a break from her videos. i could not deal with her constantly detailing her depression so Intensely. like i already had issues with thinking about death and then to be bombarded with graphic descriptions of how horrible she felt all the time? her content was literally becoming damaging and i had to do what i needed for my own sake. i liked dodie's songs and her honesty at first but i don't need ANOTHER voice in my head talking about how bad everything is all the time, i've already got my own.

do what's best for your mental health, kids. sometimes it means not listening to unhealthy people until they can develop perspective.

Katarzyna Skrzypek it was less about one snap than the ceaseless flow of snaps for me. i don't even remember the snap in question definitively, i just knew that recent dodie content was not making me happy. the occasional "life is bad" post doesn't bother me (lots of people post those) but dodie did it daily via some form of social media. the constant "im so depressed, everything is bad, i don't want to be here" vibe was getting to my head and i didn't feel like that added anything but negativity to my life; so i decided to unfollow based on that, not just one snap. i really don't mean to offend and hope i'm making myself clear!

what was on her snap??? can someone catch me up on what happened.

yeah i unfollowed her as well for this reason

madi m<br>"...until they can develop perspective" man I love that

madi m
"...until they can develop perspective" man I love that

Same. I just took a social media break and it was such a relief to not see her sad Instagrams or Snaps. I got so tired of constant "I feel so bad" to the point where it made incredibly angry

madi m thanks for replying! and I totally see and understand why you did un follow her, I don't really follow up on her Snapchat since I don't use it as much but I can see at times how negative it can be and especially her Instagram

Queen Sunflower i'd love to! i am still subscribed to doddleoddle so i can see her songs and stay updated (new ep!!) because i still love dodie as a person, just not all of her content right now.

What was in the snap that it was so bad? I unfollowed her a while ago for the same reasons and missed it.

agreed. i think that, even if it's only affecting a minority so dangerously, she still needs to stop.
bc the fact that her snaps are putting other people's safety at risk outweighs any other argument. those people deserve to be protected.
im sorry youre suffering dodie and we love you, but you have to consider just how seriously this is affecting others. you dont know how much damage an impulsive snap or late night instagram could cause to one of your viewers.
good luck finding an alternative xx

agreed. i think that, even if it's only affecting a minority so dangerously, she still needs to stop.
bc the fact that her snaps are putting other people's *safety* at risk outweighs any other argument. those people deserve to be protected.
im sorry youre suffering dodie and we love you, but you have to consider just how seriously this is affecting others. you dont know how much damage an impulsive snap or late night instagram could cause to one of your viewers.
good luck finding an alternative xx

This is generally a curious question no hate at all on your opinion, but do you think once she mentally gets better and has become more sure with herself would you refollow her on her social media? just asking


Definitely not oversharing, in my opinion. I find it very helpful and uplifting when people are honest and candid about mental illness.


We all cry for help without actually confronting a person but from a viewers standpoint I do appreciate your vlogs. I suffer from depersonalization and up until you posted that video about it I thought I was going insane. I had never even heard about it before. Even your very personal vlogs help so much (for me at least). But on the other hand, it could be hard for other people to hear. Also, I know for me that purging of emotion is extremely important. I hold in all of my feelings because most people in my life don't understand mental illness, so when I do pour my heart out, even just in a tweet, it's very satisfying. And seeing other people do the same is comforting. That being said, if you find these vlogs even more draining then cut back. Because in the end, your health is the most important thing.


First of all, this is such a great topic, and I'm so happy everyones being so honest about mental health and their opinions on it!! Second, personally, I don't mind your rants and snaps, but I think that also has to do with me as a person. I can relate to some of them, and I also can't relate to lots of it as well, but at the end of the day, hearing peoples personal thoughts and rants about how they are feeling (even on a very personal level) don't make me uncomfortable or make me feel depressed. I obviously feel a lot of empathy and sometimes I also get kinda sad listening to them, but I don't mind it or think its romanticizing mental illness.
That being said, I can also understand the viewpoint of others who are more easily influenced by these things who believe this is oversharing. Sometimes (more often nowadays) your snaps can trigger a large amount of your audience, as well as worry others. Remember, you have a large audience of those who are easily influenced who you have to account for as well!
I think if you feel like its easier talking to a camera, and if it helps relieve some of what you've been feeling, then obviously take advantage that outlet! However maybe review some of it to make sure its not too triggering before posting it. Better yet, sometimes just recording yourself might make you feel better, without having to post it. Aside from all that, I suggest you talk to friends and family, even if it seems embarrassing at the time. They can really help! Finally, I strongly recommend talking to your therapist or psychologist (I'm not sure which you go to) and always take your medication! If you aren't feeling any better, see if they might be able to prescribe you something else that might work!
Finally, I DO NOT think you should completely discontinue all your videos on mental health, and your rants, because you are breaking the stigma on mental health and that is something to be proud of!
Take care, love!! We love you :)

Damn this ended up being a lot longer than I thought it would ahaha!


I can totally relate to when you're at your lows and crying for help, but then someone comes and you shy away cause it's hard to talk sometimes


your choices are your choices, but just be mindful that no matter what u do you can't please everyone. you see youtubers who never talk about mental illness who finally get the confidence to make a video, and they get tagged as "attention seeking" "doing it for money" "new youtuber trend". and then even you, and you talk about it all the time, get tagged as " taking it too far" "romanticising" like you can't win. do what u want, as long as it actually helps you.


I tried to commit suicide in my life and this sort of things help me. Your video makes me feel i am not the only one feeling similar. And yes it is super hard to talk about it, esp to family or relatives. That is actually the hardest part and i dont even know why.


I tried snapping you but you'll prob never see it. Please dont come away from social media when ur at ur worst. The people that say they had to stop watching because it made them question how they are feeling are only doing what they need to do for themselves and you talking openly to social media is clearly what u need to do for urself when u are feeling so low. If we all did what we needed for ourselves then the world would be a much happier place. Lots of us need ur bravery to pave the way for it to be normal and ok to speak so openly during bad times. I appreciate ur honestly so much and seeing u the other night feeling low exactly when i felt like that made me almost feel like i had a companion in this. Please do whats best for u and leave the others do whats best for them. And thankyou for being you. x


I just love you so much I really want u to know that not because i think you need to hear it because you know everyone is obsessed with you but this video must've been so hard to put out into the world and I'm happy that you did even though the reaction to the video must've been nerve-racking. I don't know about others but I want to help you even though I'm young and not that experienced with mental health, maybe that says more about me being a freak who puts the happiness of others above my own but I still want you to know that I think you share a lot, but I don't believe it's over sharing because guess what it's how you feel and why you have such a raw connection with your audience and although people might mistake it for attention seeking and complaining and it's not the healthiest way to out ur emotions it has many positive sides as well.


i used to be like you. i would vent every time i was sad on a platform where i knew my friends would read them. i fixed it by, firstly, moving to a platform where none of my friends were (the app 'vent') where there only were strangers, so i didn't rely on the validation of my friends. it is kind of more "private", like a diary and you are still getting the 'hey u ok?' Messages. i started getting more and more mature about my mental illness and as i vented i would write "i feel like [this and that] but i think i might be able to feel better by [doing this activity even though i'd rather kill myself]"
because recovery is about doing things you don't want to do. it's going to school when you don't want to, it's getting out of bed when you'd rather smash you head in, and it's talking to people and enduring the small 30 minutes of awkwardness. that probably sounds like the most neurotypical thing ever, but it's the truth. you are not going to recover if you don't do things that are not fun. depression is not fun, but rotting away in bed is only nice for a moment.
and i saw your snaps about the fact that you didn't think that your antidepressants worked. they won't in the start, you have to give them a few weeks, not just three days. they are not miracle pills, they are pills to help YOU to be able to work with yourself. it's not a band that helps you through depression, it's not taking a pill, it's you who helps you trough it. give it some time, and while you are on it, work on creating new habits. get out of bed, get into a routine.
there are hard days, there are days where it feels like your mind is gonna explode and you can't get out of bed. that's okay! it's not your fault, it never is. it's important to spill your feelings SOMETIMES, but other times you need to work on what's important for the long term!
i'm sorry if this sounded rough, but i wish someone had told me these things when i was in the worst part of my mental illness. don't worry about people not believing you. you don't need physical proof, we believe you!


I feel you so. I do so much, I'm a very creative and busy and productive person, but I also struggle with depression and anxiety - resulting in feeling like I'm failing even though I am doing so many things; or I feel like I can't do anything but everyone only sees how much I do and their expectations and my expectations often vary; and sometimes I just feel like people won't believe I have these issues because I seem to be doing so well? yeah.


I think that mental health is a really important thing to talk about, knowing how many people suffer. I know a lot about it because I did a whole theatre project on it. 7 million people worldwide suffer with diagnosed depression and more who are undiagnosed.

I feel like sometimes you do overshare but also maybe to have more of a balance, try to post some, somewhat positive things about mental illnesses. More about your high times not low and about how it's true you can get better over time.

It's just when you overshare I think people feel upset that they can't help you Dodie because we are only followers. Like on snapchat maybe open some messages so people can chat to you once you've posted a long talk.

You wanted suggestions and some are going to be hard to take on but we all want what's best for you and maybe going into your YouTube or snapchat and looking back at all the lower times, could make you feel worse in a way xx

Dodie all of us love you so so much and care for you too xxxx

From Scarlett xx


ngl i got a lil anxious at the end there just cause it felt like you were being convinced to not talk about mental illhealth. i work with suicide prevention and positive mental health promotion and our ground rule is to always talk about it. i think you're using your platform to document in a really raw way what it is like to be suffering. i understand that it is your responsibility to be mindful of your audience, but if doing that turns into a  self-conscious habit about trying to pretend everything is okay online then what is that benefitting? i've been there i've said goodnight to people and then gone onto tumblr and reblog shit which leads my friends to ask how i am. the thing is, in those moments i don't want anyone to tell me it's gonna be okay, i just want to wallow in my brain. for me it's a huge thing of respect because like you say i don't think that anyone believes me. talking to your camera is that. at the end of the day, do what will help you and we'll support it❤


If anything, I believe bettering ourselves, especially when we have a mental illness, comes from being able to differentiate between what we can accept, and being responsible for changing the things we cannot. Being a creative person, usually comes from delving into our pain, but we have to try our absolute best not to dwell in it.

Once the creation has been made, where you've explored the darkness and actually let yourself feel those feelings of pain, try your hardest to move on and accept that that's where you were when you didn't know better.
If you can't move on by yourself, find someone who can be an outlet to help you move on, be that a friend or a therapist. Just be sure that the person you lean on isn't trying to make you feel better, but give you a new perspective.

Suffering from depression isn't fun, that I can promise anyone who doesn't, but it's getting better for me. Hopefully this can help you too <3


I think what Zannah said was so great. Everyone needs that friend. Also its so nice to know that everyone else is mental too 😂😭


Hello Dodie! {knowing you might never see this} I just wanted to say that I hope you remember that you are doing your best. Some people are going to shame you, say rude things, unfollow you, tell people you romanticize mental disorders, and so on and so forth. But you always need to remember that you are human. You are doing your best to make it day by day, step by step. Being human isn't easy, you have to choose what's right and wrong to you, what you should and shouldn't do, what to believe and not to believe-people know how hard it is, people understand, so don't forget that you still have an army behind you to love, support, and encourage you. To remind you that it's all going to be ok, that you are going to be ok. And to remind you to not let the harshness and darkness of other people get to you. You've got this, you are doing great. You are human-but an amazing human. I hope you remind yourself of that everyday 💛Sending all my love xoxo <br>@doddlevloggle

Hello Dodie! {knowing you might never see this} I just wanted to say that I hope you remember that you are doing your best. Some people are going to shame you, say rude things, unfollow you, tell people you romanticize mental disorders, and so on and so forth. But you always need to remember that you are human. You are doing your best to make it day by day, step by step. Being human isn't easy, you have to choose what's right and wrong to you, what you should and shouldn't do, what to believe and not to believe-people know how hard it is, people understand, so don't forget that you still have an army behind you to love, support, and encourage you. To remind you that it's all going to be ok, that you are going to be ok. And to remind you to not let the harshness and darkness of other people get to you. You've got this, you are doing great. You are human-but an amazing human. I hope you remind yourself of that everyday 💛Sending all my love xoxo
@doddlevloggle


"I DON'T FUCKING KNOW YOU TELL ME" is my response to every question my family ask me about my plans for the future


Until i watched this video and read these comments I didn't realise how much you are oversharing, because in my mind you are (were) perfect, as are many public figures and celebrities, especially to young kids like me (14). And now I realise how dangerous overshadowing to this extent can be, and how dangerous it can be to look at public figures such as yourself as through rose-tinted glasses, and make you seem more than human- as if you are above and beyond all of us. I'm not saying you intend for us to look at you as some superhero, but that it does happen, and I only realised how serious this problem was until you actually spoke out about it, which is kinda scary because it means I wasn't thinking for myself and I was taking everything you said as gospel, which is very, very dangerous, and also damaged my mental health considerably in the past year or so as I convinced myself that I would never get better and that everything you said was true and right and perfect and nothing else came close to the truth. BUT, aside from that, I have also found your videos on mental health very comforting when I am having particularly bad days because I can see someone who is so much older than me with much more experience, who feels similarly to me and is confirming that everything I experience isn't just made up and in my head and fake and commercialised. But I definitely do think that you should tone it down quite a bit, or if you write and film videos when you feel low, don't post or upload or send them anywhere or to anyone until time has passed an you're not so caught up in the moment anymore, and you can look back on it with a new perspective when you might have a more optimistic and sensible mindset, so you can make better decisions and be more careful. One more thing - don't fall into the trap of putting our opinions over those of your close friends. Because as much as you may try to be authentic and real in your videos, it is human nature to change yourself slightly from positions like yours, and we don't really know you as much as people who see you regularly in real life do. I know it's comforting to throw all your problems and the million people who are waiting on you hand and foot and get hundreds and thousands of comments full of love and support thrown back at you within seconds, but it's no real love, it doesn't really help. It gives you an empty taste of what you could have, and makes you desperate for more, make you cry louder and ask for more and more attention and open up about more things that you know you shouldn't, but you can't help but do it anyway because you love the rush of fans who care about you. But when you find a real person who cares about you deeply and truly, and is there for you when nobody else is, it's that same rush but even better, and it lasts a million times longer than watching a notification appearing on your phone and then watching the screen fade to black again. Just be careful. We love you, but we can't support you forever. ❤


Here's the thing. Oversharing can be bad and good. I love exposed to sensitive people, because I'm sensitive and I'm never exposed to sensitive people. But to others it's too much. Honestly I don't mind, I have ADHD dyslexia and have extremely high anxiety levels. I relate to being judged for mental Heath, but some other are scared by it and want personal things to stay personal.


I relate to this so much lmao. Always post things on Instagram that are depressing as fuck and then it makes me cringe as soon as I see a friend has seen it and I regret it so much...also I kind of just did the exact same thing that you're talking about 😂😩 shared this video on Facebook knowing I'd regret it but I doubt anyone will watch because I bet people are fed up of my constant cat videos lol. Whoops 🤷🏻♀


Well, after reading some comments I see the issue even if I don't have that issue. Me personally I have been diagnosed with depression and was in a suicidal treatment center for nearly six months yet I find that your videos, tweets, snapchats and all of that actually helps me in a way that none of my friends or family could. In my mind whenever I express myself (rarely) they always say that they "understand" when really they were just sad for a bit and are just trying to make me feel better, although I appreciate their efforts to make me feel better it ends up making me feel worse because they are lying and really don't understand, but because you have no clue who I am and what I am going through whenever you express yourself I feel like someone actually understands me. I respect the fact that some people can't handle the constant negativity but I just want you to know Dodie, that some people who are constantly in a low do appreciate how open you are so not everyone is against it. Though again, I respect the opinions of others.


I don't know where to stand on the oversharing online thing - when I'm feeling low I have a private Twitter that I can rant on that only one or two close friends follow but I also know that you can feel like you're being such a burden by laying out your real emotions when they aren't as pretty as you might like. Thanks for talking about this though, and I hope both Hazel and you are doing alright xox


yeahh dodes you've been oversharing, but you've also been making art. Beautiful art


I think that it's great that you share because I feel like people don't talk about it enough and that can lead to people feeling like it something to be ashamed of. The thing I struggle the most with is opening up, as none of friends know about my mental health issues and when I see you tubers and even people I know being so honest about how they are doing it makes me feel relieved that I'm not the only one and it also inspires me to talk to someone about how I feel and they are being so brave by posting these things.


Okay so. I havent finished watching this yet but im so eager to comment.

Whenever i hear about your struggles its reassuring that things might be okay and it really highlights that friends can help!! Talking can help to realise things and put how you feel into words ???

ALSO you do post good things too! Going on trips, going out, general good things. It makes things real.

HOWEVER we love you and we worry or some people may search for the same thoughts in their heads. Im probably talking poo. But eveyone has a bit of sad in their lives i guess.

FINALLY, you talk about therapy you have and stuff, maybe if you go more into that to help others will give you more of a point of being so open about mental health, like whats going good whats going bad etc etc :)

Love u xo


a relatable one. im a senior right now and my friends and i are all struggling mentally. i find it hard to reach out for help for a load of reasons. firstly its kind of a competitive thing to have more reason to be stressed/anxious/depressed? like i think its just a high school thing idk if anyone else gets that, i hate it personally and i try really really hard not to compare my responsibilities and workload to other people's. i also dont want to be a burden on them like we're all busy we all have assignments etc. even though i should and they probably wouldnt mind at all i dont expect my friends to spend time talking to me about it. i also am a tiny closet baby and the only person im fully out to is the person causing me the ol lgbt-unrequited-long-term-crush-that-you-have-to-hide-for-a-year+ blues :/ i also get the embarrassment thing as well. ugh what a time


I understand how posting on social media can be helpful, I do it a lot but of course, I don't have a large fan base. I would find it hard though if I suddenly wasn't able to post my real feelings about my mental illness. Well I do get that maybe you have been oversharing a bit if people are triggered by your content then they can not look at it. I personally find it comforting that there are other people who feel the same things I feel but are still alive and still creating. Most of the talk I hear on mental health online is talked about in the past, "when I was depressed" it's nice  to hear people speaking up saying "I'm dealing with this right now!" <br>A lot of the comments on this video seem to be blaming you and picking apart what you and Hazel have said, but I find it refreshing to hear people talk about mental health in such an open and honest way.

I understand how posting on social media can be helpful, I do it a lot but of course, I don't have a large fan base. I would find it hard though if I suddenly wasn't able to post my real feelings about my mental illness. Well I do get that maybe you have been oversharing a bit if people are triggered by your content then they can not look at it. I personally find it comforting that there are other people who feel the same things I feel but are still alive and still creating. Most of the talk I hear on mental health online is talked about in the past, "when I was depressed" it's nice  to hear people speaking up saying "I'm dealing with this right now!"
A lot of the comments on this video seem to be blaming you and picking apart what you and Hazel have said, but I find it refreshing to hear people talk about mental health in such an open and honest way.


I want to just hug her, and just that, she can cry on me, she can hug me back, she can look at me like in mental, I just want to hold a little bit, so she feels secure for a brief moment, cause that is all I wanted when I felt like this, I just wanted to be held even when I didn't want to be touch, so Dodie if you ever see this, I love you, and I hope you get through it like you help me get through it.


I never have anything to the intensity but when I can't figure out my feelings I found a friend that literally understands my bumbling and flailing and knows exactly what to say and how to give me advice. I think it's important to try and find that person because I never knew she could do that until I finally talked about it with her.


Aw dodie. I'm easily triggered so I'm glad I don't have a snap but it broke my heart to hear you admit to yourself that you've turned into this mental health black hole. I'm sorry for all of the guilt and shock that comes your way because of this, but just know that you'll be able to make it better now. I think it's great that you're documenting all of the elements of being someone whose gathered attention by over a million people. It's part of your brand really. I was honestly starting to see you as a person drifting towards all of the other 'hides away until they have something perfect to share' youtubers, which really made me sad. Hopefully when you gain the motivation to make personal yet positive videos, you can rediscover who you are


This video helped me understand your posts/vids where ur down a lot more, thx dodie


I appreciate the road you have helped pave for openness and honesty about mental health, but I also am concerned about the younger viewers of course like many are. I wouldn't say don't speak up about how you are doing anymore, but maybe counteract it as well, like show and speak of how you are going to your friends or how you're battling your darkness. I think when it comes to mental health, the "trick" to surviving is counteracting every shitty thing our brains try to tell us. So if you talk about how depressed you are in a video, maybe talk about how you're going to try and reach out to a friend or express how you're trying to be proactive. I know mental healthy is touchy, and I battle with depression myself. But when it comes to something that affects so many people, I think we need to take responsibility and not share so much or change how exactly we share, so that we don't do more harm than good in the name of mental health awareness.
TL;DR--
I appreciate what you've done Dodie and I support openness about mental health 100%, but I think it needs to be backed up with proactivity and promoting good coping strategies like going to friends.

I appreciate the road you have helped pave for openness and honesty about mental health, but I also am concerned about the younger viewers of course like many are. I wouldn't say don't speak up about how you are doing anymore, but maybe counteract it as well, like show and speak of how you *are* going to your friends or how you're battling your darkness. I think when it comes to mental health, the "trick" to surviving is counteracting every shitty thing our brains try to tell us. So if you talk about how depressed you are in a video, maybe talk about how you're going to try and reach out to a friend or express how you're trying to be proactive. I know mental healthy is touchy, and I battle with depression myself. But when it comes to something that affects so many people, I think we need to take responsibility and not share so much or change how exactly we share, so that we don't do more harm than good in the name of mental health awareness.
TL;DR--
I appreciate what you've done Dodie and I support openness about mental health 100%, but I think it needs to be backed up with proactivity and promoting good coping strategies like going to friends.


tbh i've stopped watching your stuff and sort've removed myself from your life in a way? because i couldn't cope with everything you were expressing and i don't want to dictate what you do so you can continue to share as much as you like. i think it's up to the people around you to help you in these times, to you to recognise when you need to speak to a person and have them speak back and up to your audience to decide whether or not they personally can handle the emotions you're putting into the world. people cope in a variety of different ways and while maybe what you're doing is helping others, i think ultimately what you should consider is if it's helping you. mental health is incredibly important and should be talked about, but it should be done healthily and i'm not sure you've been doing that. of course it may be helpful to you to speak your mind online when you're so low, or maybe you're forcing yourself to do so because you feel people need that from you. i hope you make the decision that is right for you. truly right for you, not for your audience. if people are too deeply affected by what you share, eventually they will leave which is something i think you must be aware of. i personally had to leave because my mental health is already in a bad state and i felt it was becoming worse everytime i watched any mental health video. i had a similar situation with Becki0 i think her name is? her constant state of sadness was affecting me too much and as much as i appreciate her, i can't watch her content or interact with her.

that said, i love you and i wish you the best in the world. you deserve it.


I've always thought of it as: if humans didn't suffer then we wouldn't know the difference between happy and sad, so all feelings would be smushed together and just sort of numbed...


Their chat about the up and down thing with friends and mental health really resonates with me, I don’t think my friends know how much I’m hurting, so they rely on me to hold them up, which brings me down. I don’t let them know though.


This is one of your video that i go too when i feel like i need to hear someone talking and.... when i just feel like it... but it’s relatable and calming everytime ...


i think you just have to make sure you're talking about mental health in a way that can have a positive outcome. spreading awareness and removing the stigma is great. but there is such a thing as oversharing, definitely. but when you're (in general you plural speaking) feeling at your lowest, sometimes tweeting or snap chatting how you're feeling makes it real and can help to make you feel better? I've definitely done this myself, but i don't have the same platform as you do dodie. people with platforms do have to be a lot more conscious of how they affect those who see and can react to their content.


it's 100% ok to figure out how much sharing is good and healthy along the way nobody should expect a person to know this just because they have a large following. you grow and learn and im sure you help different parts of your audience every step of your way, dont feel guilty about being you and/or trying to figure out who that is


Well maybe you can start journaling and instead of telling it to the whole world just write it down and you can read it the other day again and then really understand how youre feeling and over time seeing what personal progress you've made :)


i kinda do this too and this video really made me think. i don't have followers who i don't know, but still. my friends or sometimes even my mom will ask me how i am, i'll say i'm fine, and they'll go "no. i saw your story or Instagram." i've never thought of it as a bad thing - putting things out there. this video is a very good one for me. thank you for talking about these things. i hope you feel better soon. (easier said than done, i just mean that you deserve to feel good) sending you my love. ❤


I haven't used Snapchat for the last year or so, and I don't remember ever watching anything too intense before then. I also don't have problems watching some of your heavier videos, e.g. the depersonalization ones, depression ones. That said, I'm 17 and a lot more understanding of myself than I used to be. BUT.
If my 12-14 year old self was watching your videos, I do honestly think it might have been bad for me, partially because it would have made me feel sad and partially because I would identify myself with your illnesses instead of finding the real causes (whether we like it or not, mental health is a trend that everyone wants to adopt). You do have a large audience that alongside actual mental health patients, consists of young, impressionable, want-to-be-trendy teenagers. While I am self-aware enough (and not mentally ill) to filter out bad content, younger people might not be.
I don't know how to solve this problem. I personally think your videos are fine, as are your insta captions. If your Snapchat really does get too heavy and you really think you need that mental outlet (although by what you said in the video that Snapchat doesn't validate you because it's not like a conversation with people it's like talking to yourself), then put up some kind of warning that this will be a bad mental health rant.
Still, in terms of Snapchat, I do think you should talk to your friends, not your audience. Snapchat is bad in that it feels like a more personal media, but it's just as distant as others in terms of popular creator / audience. Think about that - both from creator's and audience's side - before posting mental health rants there.
Take care of yourself. I love and support you. x


You are the best,realest, and most beautiful youtuber out there, Dodie!  Never forget that.  Love you ( ˘ ³˘)♥


Love you doddle! I understand what you're talking about. The only thing that keeps me going these days is my baby. I talk about my problems when it gets real bad on twitter but I don't have any friends so no one really talks back. And I don't like to burden my family because they have there own problems.

So high note or not your videos always help #relatable...

(Now, should I post this or just leave it unposted in my notes till I get a new phone and loss it forever? Maybe risk it...)


I've definitely had a hard time watching your videos lately. I've honestly thought about unsubscribing to this channel. I'm young, only 13 actually, and i saw your videos as a place to be happy. But now, i simply see it as a diary of your emotions. I've unfollowed your instagram, I did that a while ago. It was tough. When I saw you on tour, all I saw was you, faking happiness. It was horrid. I'm glad that you've came to a realization of all of this.


Hello dodie! You've already read a lot of different opinions and I'm guessing you won't read this one, but I just wanted to add mine (which is a mixture of some things already said in the comments and something I haven't actually seen). SO, first of all, I myself have not been diagnosed with any mental illness, and I don't think I have one as such, i just think I'm a very thoughtful and VERY sensitive person. To me, dodie, your work and creations have been very present in my life, and the way you open up about mental health has been really important to me, because it made ME aware of it (even more than i already was) and it really put me in the mindset to help the people I know who need help, and they very much appreciate it. As well as making me aware, I have related to you like no one else, because I have been through really tough times with events in my life which I do think have impacted my brain maybe a little bit. I've always found myself coming back to you, and actually feeling better. I gave you a letter, idk if you read it, but I had some pretty serious family issues a few weeks prior giving you the letter (i didn't specify that in my letter hah), and a few weeks before that I literally could not feel ANYTHING. At first I was very sad, but then i was just kind of in robot mode, like i didn't want to do anything, i didn't want to see anyone or talk to anyone. The only thing I could feel was disappointed at everything. But I listened to Party Tattoos for the first time, and just your voice and the words and everything in that song made me feel something again. Not only did i feel comforted, but i also felt human for the first time in a long time. I felt alive, and you did that. And I thank you for that. So, dodie, you do help a lot of people, you raise awareness and to me, you actually show how mental illnesses actually are and you gave me and a lot more other people a completely different view of it. I saw how difficult it is, how blocking it is. I don't understand people saying you romanticize it, because in my opinion pictures don't always match captions, and your captions to me are very raw and real. To me, you show a very real side of it all, and it really helps raise awareness.

THAT BEING SAID, i do want to add that maybe you are oversharing a little bit. I think you've showed us how things can truly get, and that has raised awareness itself, but some people are starting to find it triggering. Not everyone, but some. I think the best thing you can do is what hazel said, maybe talk about it not when you're at the bottom, but when you're on your way back up. Maybe it's those very detailed descriptions that people find triggering. IF you want advice,  my advice would be to yes, if you're sad and you want to share it and ask for help, you can do that, and know we're always here to help. I think the only thing you should be careful about is being descriptive all in public. Maybe say that you ARE not okay and reach out for help, and then when in a private conversation with someone who isn't vulnerable at the time, then you can talk about it explicitly. Another thing I saw was that you can record a video when you're feeling that way, because talking to a camera helps, and not upload the video until you have given it 24 hours past being filmed. Think if that would help your audience, and if you decide not, then you don't have to upload it. AND THEN, feeling better, you can talk publicly about how you felt and how you recovered. That way, you get to raise awareness, tell other people that it gets better, talk about it explicitly with people who are willing to listen, and help yourself find your way. Another thing I'd recommend would be just a complete break from social media, especially twitter and instagram. Maybe a month, and see where you get.
Regardless, i really really thank you for everything you've done and I'm very sad and very sorry that your work has been getting these kinds of misunderstandings. We all can find a way to fix this and find a middleground, and you being open to discussion is really really helpful and important. Again, we are a very helping community with each other, and i really do believe we will find the perfect spot of help, recovery and communication. I love you so so much, and please know we want you to be happy.


I respect you for doing this Dodie. I don't really watch your snapchats with sound, but when I do it affects my mood. i do think you need to cut back, get professional help. it helped me so much. love you dodie, I hope you take the advice of hazel and everyone in the comments.

Nix Stark i'm pretty sure she does but i'm not sure

SunnyShowers love because she just over shares and goes into too much detail about mental illness and talks about that for multiple snaps.

Paige McKenzie I don't watch her snapchats, why are they upsetting?

Paige McKenzie doesn't dodie have a therapist?


Dodie I heard you on Radio 1 for the 10 mins I turned the radio on today!


instead of criticizing you for something that seems to be quite common, i will give some suggestions:
1) trigger warnings! these are pretty easy and allow people to consent to the content in the video instead of getting clickbaited. you can get creative and make the thumbnail the tw that looks dodie-esque in its design.
2) video journaling. it can be exactly what you do on youtube, just without posting the video. i'm not sure if getting feedback is part of the urge to post, but i thought this might be a good idea regardless.
3) continue seeking help and communicate with close ones. i know how hard this one can be, but it's important to remember that even if it doesn't feel like it, getting help is worth the effort. it's hard and convoluted, but it's so much better to get help than it is to continue struggling. remember, you have people that care about you! and while it is important to make sure they're comfy with letting you vent to them, it's ok to talk to them.

i won't tell you to make more positive videos, because all that will do, especially at this stage, is make you feel fake, as well as increase the intrusive thoughts. it's your channel, and while you may be able to influence people, they are not your children. you don't have to get rid of or significantly change the content you make because, while you may be a youtube influencer, you are not actively telling anyone to do anything. that's why i think doing one of the above will allow you the freedom to do whatever you want and still be able to protect anyone that might get negatively affected by your videos. (i know dodie will most likely never see this, but i feel this advice can be applicable to anyone having similar issues)


Reading these comments are really helping me think clearly.. I relate with wanting to post in the heat of the moment and hoping someone will reach out to me, but it never goes how I expect. I've made a habit of confiding in strangers instead of my real friends and family. I don't know how/if I want to break this habit yet. I'm scared to not use social media because what would I do in my free time instead? I'm scared of being alone, but with social media, I feel less lonely and I don't have to try as hard to reach out. There is some relief with posting how I feel, but it doesn't make those feelings completely vanish. The feelings are still there, but at least I'm not the only one suffering. It feels like a lot of being are getting into this habit of being distant and staying at home all the time (I could be assuming this). When will we break this habit? Will it only get worse? I'm scared for myself and others that we'll continue to stay hidden behind these screens and devices instead of the real world. That's why I'm glad I finally got a job which forces me to socialize with coworkers/customers. I suggest for people to do just the same (if you're the right age/have a license) or reconnect with friends you've lost touch with ! We need to start doing healthy normal things again or else we won't get better. We'll stay in this limbo of depression if we don't try to reach out for help for real.


i just want to say that, as someone who has struggled with BOTH physical and mental struggles, that it isnt easier to be physically sick. at least, not when it comes to serious physical disability. i live with multiple rare diseases and have been told that i'm a hypochondriac or that im faking by ignorant doctors bc its so hard to prove that my illnesses are real. the term is "invisible illness." tests come back clear and i LOOK fine but really i could be on the brink of death and no one would know. dodie i really love your videos but there are some definite ableist undertones. please, don't forget about disability in your activism. comparing mental and physical ailments is toxic and very damaging. there is a massive stigma among chronically ill people that if you dont look sick or seem sick then you cant be sick. saying this sort of thing to your audience furthers that stigma and makes it harder for us disabled people. i've been watching for ages but hearing that sort of thing said (+ the oversharing bit) hurts a lot.


I feel so shit at the moment. I have a massive problem with opening up and saying how I feel. Even my best friend who I trust with my life is so worried because I bottle it all up and just keep it to myself. The thing is, I go to say how I feel and then there's a barrier stopping me and I physically can't say it. In year 9 I self harmed but I didn't really know what I was doing. I was clean for over a year and I've started again recently. It feels so good to get the pain out without using words. I understand how I am but I can't convey that to anyone else. Mainly because I feel like they're going to judge me and tell me I'm stupid and attention seeking, but also because I'm scared that if I get help I might find out I have something seriously wrong and spiral out of control. I love you Dodie and you're so lucky to have so many friends that understand exactly how you feel without you having to explain it very much xxxx


It's funny cos I feel YouTubers who share too many fitness posts are over sharing/triggering etc. As someone who suffers from depression and anxiety I always appreciate your honesty and frank approach to it xx


this vid and all the comments are so interesting bcos its making me realize how much i myself overshare about my problems and mental illness on the internet (though ofc i don't have to deal w the consequences of having a large audience so its not exactly the same as dodie's situation) but i think that the bottom line is that when someones not doing well mentally, talking to a trusted friend or even better a professional who's equipped to deal w this stuff is the most productive thing to do, even though it may seem intimidating to some!!!! i'm definitely guilty of livetweeting my fuckin mental breakdowns and depending on validation from ppl and it really is so unhealthy and ultimately doesn't do much to help in the long run, if that makes sense


For a long time I was really big fan but recently I really reconsider the effect that watching these videos and snapchats (especially the snapchats) was having on me. Dodie, I know that your intention was never to romanticise mental illness or anything like that and in my opinion I don't really think you do. The problem is that a lot of young, impressionable people that watch your videos want to or have wanted to, be like you (myself in the past included) and that's just the way it is. They'll think they should have these problems or try to force these problems on themselves. But more recently I felt the problem with the Snapchats was that it almost promoted negativity and that's something personally I'm trying to get away from. Anyway, that's my two cents on this, I still love you and your music Dodie but it's probably a lot more beneficial, for me anyways, to distance myself from all the negativity.


I feel like this is your outlet, no matter what this is what helps you so it's going to keep happening

but a responsible way to do this would probably be to give warnings beforehand, to tell people to go to A+E when they are in crisis, go to your GP

bc at the end of the day, if someone had a broken leg you would tell them to get help,
mental illness is no different


can't lie sometimes watching your mental health video's gets to me a little i love you so much but it does tend to make me start self diagnosing my own moods and feeling. Like I do know when not to watch but yeah i can get you do overshare at times but at the same time Dodie you do give alot of awareness and you share what you do to get through this like going to doctors and counsellors and stuff which is helpful. I myself see a counsellor when it gets too much although i know your situation is a little more then just feeling down but yeah.


All my friends watch u and they all think that depression and mental illness is something that should be romanticized. If u need help its good to talk..sometimes sharing ur feelings makes us feel much better but sometimes its too much oversharing.


I think it's very important for you to be honest about ur feelings but I completely get if you feel maybe ur sharing too much. Just do whatever you feel is right and stay well :)


I definitely get this! I will put stuff online for support because it takes two seconds to text my friends, and yet I don't because I convince myself that they won't understand... 😔


honestly, someone who goes through a lot (actually diagnosed, not self) and seeing dodie this way actually help me, because I don't feel so alone (I know I'm not, but seeing someone like dodie, who emotionally I can relate too kinda makes my brain understand) maybe if dodie made it a side video rather then a big thing. With a trigger warning or age restriction because like everyone says, she has a large audience and not to be rude but from experience people under 14 shouldn't be <b>so</b> exposed to such a raw description to mental health

honestly, someone who goes through a lot (actually diagnosed, not self) and seeing dodie this way actually help me, because I don't feel so alone (I know I'm not, but seeing someone like dodie, who emotionally I can relate too kinda makes my brain understand) maybe if dodie made it a side video rather then a big thing. With a trigger warning or age restriction because like everyone says, she has a large audience and not to be rude but from experience people under 14 shouldn't be *so* exposed to such a raw description to mental health


I think if you were to approach it at a different angle, because sometimes you do talk about it in a helpful way and sometimes it is good to spread awareness but there's a fine line. If you look at your song "secret for the mad" for example,  that's a good example of relating to your audience in a positive way. You express your concerns and worries but you use your experience to help other people get throught it without making it self centered.


what I feel helps is just recording stuff on voice record, or just filming yourself but not putting it out in public. I don't know if that will help, especially since you might WANT people to see it, or at least feel like people are seeing it, but it might be another way if you don't want to talk to your friends. I'm sorry if this sounds ignorant, I honestly have no idea what you are going through.


dear dodie,
I have been a huge fan for yours for many years. when i first became a fan I wasn't struggling with mental illness in anyway. but as the years past I began to struggle with anxiety and depression. at first I was extremely confused and I constantly told myself that I was just blowing things out of proportion. I basically denied having any form of having a mental illness. this of course made things worse. finally I did realize that I wasn't just sad or stressed or even a little nervous, I realized that it was something much more. but like any teenager who realizes that your ill, it scared me. having a mental illness is so much different than being physically ill because when you are physically ill you often find out what it is, the cause, and your treatment options and this makes your brain at peace knowing what you can do to solve the issue. but when your brain is sick you have no idea what to do because usually you rely on your brain to tell you what to do. through watching your videos and listening to your songs you have helped me come to terms with my mental illness's and accept them for what they are. you have taught me so much and I am so grateful.
I personally don't think you are oversharring. seeing mental illness raw and seeing exactly what it is helped me and I think more people need to show what mental illness really is. I understand that there are people who don't enjoy seeing the way you show your mental illness but in my opinion I think it is because it scares them, mental illness is a scary thing and many people really have no idea what it is actually like and you showing it scares certain people. but for those that it scares I think an easy solution for them is to just steer clear of the mental health posts. sharing your story and talking about your mental health is an outlet for you and has helped me soooo fucking much. please don't stop sharing your story and showing the world what mental illness really is like. love you xoxo


This is a difficult topic and I really commend you for engaging with criticism in such a public way. That in itself shows a lot of care and compassion and, ultimately, respect for your audience. This has been brought up already but I wanted to add to the conversation about associating art with mental illness. I'm a writer who has both an anxiety disorder and depression. At different periods of my life I have been so debilitated by anxiety that I've been unable to leave my room, I've had to leave jobs because I couldn't make it through a day without a panic attack, and I have many times struggled with daily suicidal ideation. During these times I could not write. I couldn't do anything. The thing that brought me closest to losing hope was feeling like I had failed at the thing that comprises one of the most fundamental parts of my identity. It is the worst I have ever felt in my life, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone in the world. There may be a correlation between art and mental illness, but one does not serve the other. That isn't to say you can't create art about your experiences, but you are doing so in spite of your illness, not because of it.

I'm really not trying to scold you here--if anything I wanted to tell you this because figuring it out had a massive impact on my life. There were times in my life that I thought my mental illness made me interesting, or gave me the emotional depth to be a good writer. It doesn't. And neither does yours. You're talented because you work hard, because you're smart, because you have something that no one else does. Your perspective matters because you choose to share it. Your story matters because you're taking the time to tell it. None of these things are inextricably tied to the levels of certain chemicals in your brain. So keep making what you want to make, but get treatment too. I promise that the other side of this valley is going to be amazing.


This was really interesting 😊<br>We're all here for youuuuuu

This was really interesting 😊
We're all here for youuuuuu


as some people find your oversharing triggering or upsetting, i find it kinda reassuring because i relate to the things you say and it makes me feel just that little bit less alone and like it's not just me feeling like this although i would ask you to put a lil warning before snapping or posting videos or tweeting etc if you get what i mean, love you X


Honestly, I usually just write what is going on in my notes and just think about whatever that can contradict all the negative thing i wrote. Lets say i said i dont have anybody, i would look back at the text and think about my friends and people who care such as parents,grandparents,siblings,etc. Just what i do and usually helps.


hey dodes - I... don't know if you'll ever see this, but I understand. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry both of us have this thing in our brains, and I'm so proud of us for dealing with it. we both have a long way to go, but we're getting there. Thank you for making feel like I'm not alone.


When you show your deepest points, I just think like 'wow my mental health is fine, I don't need any help' which is not a good thing because i actually do need help... Or sometimes you scare me off and then I don't want to scare anyone else so I keep it to myself. But at the same time I do think people need to be honest and open about it... I just have mixed feelings about this...


as someone with social anxiety, i find it so so difficult to watch your snapchat story or look at your other social media platforms as it immediately makes me tense, anxious and distressed. However, as thats how you seem to be dealing with whats going on, i just removed myself from the situation (it did make me sad deleting you off snapchat but i just couldn't cope). Its also distressing cause (and i really don't want to sound harsh when i say this) it doesn't seem like you want to help yourself? it seems a lot like 'woe is me i want to stew in my sadness' rather than 'I'm in a shit situation and i need help or to get it off my chest so i can move on' - which is totally fine obviously because we've all been there and had moments like that but its hard as a viewer to watch because you don't seem to be finding the stairs upwards. you seem to just keep going down into the cellar of your mind where there are a lot of dark thoughts and gloom and boxes that shouldn't be disturbed. I really hope things start to get better for you Dodie cause its the absolute pits feeling like theres no up. I definitely wouldn't say stop sharing because its important people talk about the ugly side of mental illness but i would say maybe take a different approach to how you present it. All of the love Dodie, i hope this doesn't come across as rude or mean because i don't intend for it to sound like that. Don't be so hard on yourself x


I wanted to say a few things in response to this....
1. I think a reason that a lot of Youtubers post such videos, like Jack's bad brain day video, is because they have a very LARGE group of people following them who worry, wonder, wait, and also have expectations for the Youtubers they're following. It's like having to communicate with your boss except to the level of thousands and millions, because if that audience disappears, then a huge chunk (or even all) of their income can disappear. Plus, Youtubers do have some sort of relationship with their audience - at least that's what YouTube as a platform has always looked to me.
Yes, those videos could be a way of venting and a "cry for help," as it were. (It's not like I can know why they actually put their video out there.) But there's also an element of communicating WHY there isn't any new content out there, or even just letting the people who care about you but have no personal relationship with you know what's going on to some extent. There are a lot of variables there. I see why for you all, as friends, it can be scary though.
2. Yes, mental health is hard to see and communicate, but saying that physical health is always easy seems somewhat insensitive. I have a sister who's almost always bedridden and feels as if she can't communicate what she needs because she feels embarrassed of what her body is limiting her to. And to many friends, family and doctors, it just looks like she's being lazy - like mental illness. I'm not trying to shame either of you, because I've learned so much about mental illness from Dodie especially and appreciate that so much from her sharing, but there are physical illnesses too that act in a similar way and downplaying what many people are going through - just like many people with mental illnesses have to go through - isn't very sensitive. Maybe you just meant if someone had a cold or the flu, and I'm sorry if you did only mean this and I brought any offense, but I personally felt that there should be awareness brought to this, as you both are typically people who try to be aware and sensitive of such things.
3. Please take care, both of you. I'm sorry to hear that you both are in this place and struggling and I hope you find a way through it sometime soon. I can't begin to really understand it all, but I'll hope for the best for you both. Much love sent your way.


I legit read the title as "am i overSHAGGING too much" and thought wow Dodie is getting real creative xD


I have only watched your YouTube content, but I don't believe that I've seen a video where I feel like you were saying too much. In fact, a good amount of the time I have felt so lonely in how I'm feeling. And I feel guilty for burdening my friends with the same pain or guilty for bothering my mom with a therapy visit. Sometimes I'm just low, and I don't feel like me. Sometimes that lasts for a while. I seek you in my times of loneliness. Your videos make me feel whole. Your music, insight, and happiness bring me so much life. I'm so sorry you're hurting and I hope you seek help, but I'm also so grateful for you.


I love you Dodie and I love your content, but I totally agree with what was being said about empty calories and the other comments here. You're right that there's really no etiquette for this. But the line between sharing and over-sharing on social media is starting to blur. I noticed a lot of people in the comments saying they're avoiding your content because of how much you share online. I hope this lil chat with Hazel maybe helped you realize the impact you're having on impressionable teens like me. We still love you and support you Dods <3


i have a feeling that every time i feel even a bit shit, i'll be coming back to this video.


Dodie i want you to remember that you are a human and feelings are feelings. Sometimes it fells wrong to tell somebody that something is mentally frustrating you. And sometimes over sharing is a bit to much. But what I wanna say is that you need to maybe take a break from doing to much maybe (I don't know if you are doing it but I will still tell you ) make a journal and say when something is a burden and find out if it's only at night is something to talk about with friends and family. Sometimes a break from what you are doing will help, and I care about you and your health I wanna see the sparkling dodie I've seen but if it's a barrier from having a bad day and portraits it to be a good day instead for your followers I would like you to be open and tell people what's going on instead of faking it.
I want you happy and healthy because I love you, so please take care of your self and find something that can help you
Xoxoxo Ann ♥♥♥


i dont think you are still reading comments but in hopes you are:<br>i remember finding you so long ago and i kinda liked you, then i definitely liked you, then i adored you, then i legit worshiped you. that shows my mental instability aswell as other fans who fall in love with these people. i became like a little parasite, whenever my host (dodie) was sad i was sad. id then be sad until dodie posted something happy. i never had depression, i have atrocious issues with obsession (dont worry id never stalk you or anything i just wanted to be you so badly) and i think thats something awful when you decide that the person you want to mirror is often depressed

i dont think you are still reading comments but in hopes you are:
i remember finding you so long ago and i kinda liked you, then i definitely liked you, then i adored you, then i legit worshiped you. that shows my mental instability aswell as other fans who fall in love with these people. i became like a little parasite, whenever my host (dodie) was sad i was sad. id then be sad until dodie posted something happy. i never had depression, i have atrocious issues with obsession (dont worry id never stalk you or anything i just wanted to be you so badly) and i think thats something awful when you decide that the person you want to mirror is often depressed


i think this whole thing is WILD.. im sure people thank u for being such an inspiration. recently i feel like you've been inspiring me to fall into depression again because that's where i've spent most of my life in recent memory. i feel comfortable there. i've been getting better i've even felt happy with friends who i can be myself around and not feel like i'm performing in front of. but u remind me of the place i feel like i belong in. that muddy flat place that i strived to escape from. i didn't realise this was what was happening. i might need to take break from u for a while and sort my head out. but i appreciate this video so much! it's always nice to see people struggling in a way that's familiar even if it hinders more than it helps. love u guys. sorry for oversharing


Before I even clicked on this video I knew it was gonna be about 'mental health'. I'm not saying it's bad to share but literally every video on youtube, nearly everything in the media is about it. I have my own experiences and sure it's nice to know I'm not alone but I just don't want to be bombarded and reminded of the things I went through, I just wanna get my shit done you know. Don't mean to offend or attack, just saying how I feel about all this mental health stuff. It just pisses me off is all. Literally everyone in my school now jokes about killing themselves and how their life sucks. It's something we can all experience but why constantly talk about it? Isn't it good to focus on the other things? We aren't our minds you know. Our minds are just a part of us. We didn't have the same mindset as we did when we were 5 right? Of course. But it doesn't mean we are different people. Fuck this, seriously. No hate to you dodie


This is just something I need to get off my chest. I feel like we, the audience, blindly follow Dodie's every action. I only ever see compliments validating every facet of her being. While that is very nice, you don't really owe her anything. (This is coming from someone who is usually one of those people)<br>I do love Dodie, but I think she relies a bit too much on her doting audience and her "disturbed artist" character.

This is just something I need to get off my chest. I feel like we, the audience, blindly follow Dodie's every action. I only ever see compliments validating every facet of her being. While that is very nice, you don't really owe her anything. (This is coming from someone who is usually one of those people)
I do love Dodie, but I think she relies a bit too much on her doting audience and her "disturbed artist" character.


okay, i didn't wanna comment until i watched the entire thing. while dodie's openness about her mental health has extremely helped me, i do agree that you are oversharing a bit much. i thought i was alone in some of the things i was experiencing and that it was just normal, but when dodie opened up about her mental health i realized that i really needed to talk to someone because i can't deal with this on my own. i have a doctor's appointment tomorrow and i plan on reaching out this time. so thank you dodie. however, i normally binge watch people's youtube channels and watch all their videos in a span of time and then move to the next channel. i've slowly noticed that in the past recent times when i binge watch doddlevloggle (not so much of doddleoddle) my mood changes. i kinda feel heavy as if i'm bearing the weight of someone else's issues. these topics tend to stick on me as the day goes on and i can't seem to shake them despite me having a good day. god forbid i binge watch your channel when i'm having a bad week or day (since youtube tends to be my safety place). i mean, i don't want you to stop sharing and close this outlet, but maybe it's gone too far. i do worry about your younger audience, and if this type of heavier content impacts them far too much. i'm glad we're discussing this though since i also know lucy moon talked about oversharing on her channel in the recent past. it's comforting to know that sharing about mental health and things we are personally struggling with is not as taboo as it once was but since this is new territory for so many creators, we've yet to really draw the line in the sand that states it's too much


I respect whatever you choose to do with your life and I hope that it eventually will lead to your happiness but I would respectfully like to ask that you continue making music about your emotions and feelings. Whilst reading the comments I have been wondering what would be best, and based off of my experience I feel like it could be very helpful to some but I recommend making a separate channel for it. When I listened to "6/10" and "Sick Of Losing Soul Mates" I actually began to cry out of relief that someone understood and was able to put it into words, something I have been trying to do for a while. I have sent some of your songs to my loved ones as an act of expressing myself because truly I have no clue how. But if stopping this means helping yourself and your audience then I will respect your choice to stop.


This is such a difficult discussion, because you deserve to talk about it. Many people do that, everyone wants to pour their heart out for someone to see it. But what the difference is, most of them don't have an audience. I'm a part of your audience and i think it's okay you're sharing so much. It makes me feel i'm not alone and it's okay to be not okay. But on the other hand it makes me so sad to see you sad... It's really good and important to talk about mental health and you also help many people with it. But please be careful, you are what matters. And in my opinion the best thing to do is waiting until you feel better and then share it. But i don't really mind you posting snapchats or tweets when you're feeling sad. Because i'm still a doddler and i'll always be there for you. Even though i can't do much, if listening helps or replying to your tweets helps, even when it's just a little, I'll do that. I love you so much dodie, you're loved by so many people. Don't ever forget that. (And the same goes for everyone reading this comment, you are loved!!!) ❤


as someone who doesn't have any extreme metal illnesses like depression or depersonalisation, I actually find your videos super interesting. I know people who have the same sort of things and it's hard for them to open up and how in depth you go it can help me understand these sorts of things better and can help other people understand these that don't have depression or anxiety etc. However I think there's always a cut of point of how in depth you can go because your brain is always in a different state when you're in your lowest and highest moments. (Also glad that you now know the depths you can go into) ❤❤


I enjoy feeling that I'm not nutty for feeling... well, nutty. I can't even ask for help when I'm physically sick, much less anything else, so sometimes it helps to know that lots of people have their own problems.


Personally, I don't think you share too much because it makes me feel understood, less alone. But on the other hand, I do understand that some people might get triggered or something (without your intention) by seeing someone else struggling. Mental health & illness is for everyone different and I think you should find some sort of comprise between sharing a little, but not too much. (Idk I'm trying to help but English is not my mother tongue so I'm not very good at explaining what I'm trying to say 😂💕) Love you <3


okayyyy damn i don't know how to feel about this.
i've been on both sides of this, as a creator who likes to share my life and as a viewer.
tbf i think the only time when 'oversharing' about mental health is unhealthy is when:
- it's not helping the person who's sharing it (they regret it later, it does nothing to help, etc)
- it romanticises mental health issues

one one hand, talking about mental health is so so important because of the stigma around it. i guess it's just important not to go the other way and romanticise it or put ideas into other people's heads. as an example, i once heard a youtuber talking about something that made them anxious which had never occurred to me before and henceforth i was anxious about that thing.

on the other hand, if it's not helping you, why bother? i totally get the desire to share (i've done those 3am tweets too) but if it doesn't actually help, then there's legit no point. you might do better to find some coping strategies that actually help, that you can call on in that situation, or find specific people to go to. i have one person i can go to about stuff like that which means, when they're not around, i have no one to talk to which is when it becomes an issue.

the main reason why i feel like i want to 'overshare' online is to make me 'more real' in the eyes of the people watching me. the more real i seem online, the more real and alive i'll feel- or at least that's what my flawed depressed logic tells me. it doesn't work though. people online will never truly know you and they can't validate your existence. only you (and the real people around you) can do that.

aaaaaagh this is difficult

i'm reluctant to call it 'oversharing' when it's you talking about mental illness. a possible reason why we think it's 'too much' is because of stigma around talking about mental health


Dodie: I should stop over sharing and having mental health as my brand<br>Dodie a day later: puts on Snapchat that she went on the radio and to talk about depersonalization

Dodie: I should stop over sharing and having mental health as my brand
Dodie a day later: puts on Snapchat that she went on the radio and to talk about depersonalization


The response to this video makes me - honestly - so confused and upset. It seems that so many of the comments are trying to either tear Dodie down for sharing her honest to god feelings about something, claiming that she's suddenly a 'danger' to her audience, or criticising her for linking mental illness and creativity. And I'm not going to lie, I don't have and didn't see the aforementioned Snapchats that seem to be the turning point in all of this, but I can pretty much imagine what they were like. So the first point is - stop making Youtubers put up barriers between themselves and their audiences. In the beginning, Youtubers could go out for coffee with their viewers, chat to them at meet ups, add them on facebook - there was no sense of celebrity or 'other' that now seperates the creators we love and the audience who love them. By tearing Dodie down for sharing the same thoughts and feelings that she would share with a friend with her audience, she was inadvertantly breaking down that barrier. And now it seems like the comments are determined to build them back up again. Essentially by criticising Dodie for oversharing, it seems like more people want her to keep secrets, to lie, to pretend to be happy on camera, to clam up about her real self and speak to her audience like children. I love that Dodie is honest. I really truly love that, and it's such a huge comfort to me knowing that I'm not alone, that there is someone out there who can understand what I'm going through with my own mental illness, and to remind me that even though things inside my head are bad, I can still become something amazing despite all of that. That should be why Dodie is an inspiration - not for lying on camera or guarding her real feelings to the point of self-censorship and falseness, but because she admits when things are shitty, and then produces something beautiful despite it.


dodie u can share whatver you are comfortable with. i think that it is great that you are comfortable enought to share about your mental health to thousands of people because mental health isnt talked about enough. you are an inspiration keep doing what youre doing


Noooooo you arent oversharing it helps me a lot to hear someone else going through the same thing so i dont feel crazy. If it doesnt help you to share though, i understand!!! But i promise you, no one is bothered by you and everyone just wants to give you love and support!!


hey dodie :)<br>im going to talk to my guidance counsellor at school because i think i need help. im scared what they will think and how i will tell my parents. any tips ? 💛💛💛

hey dodie :)
im going to talk to my guidance counsellor at school because i think i need help. im scared what they will think and how i will tell my parents. any tips ? 💛💛💛


I respect those who say that dodie is oversharing and it is damaging but... I would just feel unsettled if dodie didnt speak about it. Lately, it has been bad with the oversharing, but every single depression video that I watch every time im in a depressive episode is the only thing that helps. In a weird way, the aesthetic sides of the posts about depression help to take the sting of it away for me, and calm me. I would feel worse off if dodie didnt post. If she decides not to because she doesnt want to, thats fine. Im just saying that they are majorly helpful so im actually for them tbh x


On the one hand, I think you're very real and you don't pretend like everything is fine all the time, or have this forced positivity thing going that I see a lot of people on youtube doing. And I think that's important to people. On the other hand, it seems to me from what you wrote in your description that you yourself feel like this is a coping mechanism that is perhaps unhealthy for you. And I think that maybe you should, for yourself, find other coping mechanisms that are better for you. Like reaching out to friends instead, for example. And then when you've taken a step back, you can be open about it but with a bit more of a distance and a filter in place for what you do share.


I think a warning on the snaps are a good idea! The vidcon one was the only one I couldn't finish but I think if I was in a worse place I could see having issues with a few of them. BUT this time last year I was in a bad place and you posted a video about abusive relationships (which I've had experience with) and I watched it and ended up having an anxiety attack later that day which is kind of a negative response to that video but I don't think it was! I think it was good for me to see. It helped me recognize that I had been in an abusive relationship and also was good to see someone who is my age, who was in a similar position as me and who lived through it and is dealing with it, I needed that in my life to feel less alone and to remember that I am okay even though my body and brain sometimes disagrees. I think you sharing can be really good for a portion of your audience but starting your snap by saying "hey I'm going to talk about my brain right now so please be aware that it is an intense mental health topic"  would help the people stop watching when they need to but allow the people who need to see it, to see it. Also I think the empty calories idea is important and that it really might not be healthy for you. I think that changing the format so you make a video pouring your feelings out and instead of posting them on Snapchat, you send them to a counselor could be much better for you!! I don't know you personally but from what I've experienced with my brain and what I have seen watching you for the last year and a half I think it would be better  for you (most importantly, helping your audience is important but not to the level it hurts you) to find a different way to handle the harsh lows. Don't stop talking about mental health but adjust so that you aren't hurting yourself more in the process


this video feels so..... idk what im trying to say. but seeing 2 friends talking about their problems together... like confronting experiences & thoughts, i could relate to what you both said but also, it felt genuine... like a talk with a friend would feel. idk what im saying. but i really liked it
 im also really liking reading the comments & seeing the criticism ppl have, cause its important also to see how damagin what we think is not only to ourselves but also to others u know... and like sometimes we dont realise it, or we do but the thought is already so deep that we cant stop thinking about it. its important tho to like, stop and reflect on what we are saying and the way we talk sometimes.

this comment makes no sense anyway thnx for the video i was feeling like shit and now ill still feel like shit but. maybe ill be honest to my friends too about it


Dear dodie, i see how the replies vary a lot and for me its also a mixture. You being vocal and outspoken about it has really helped me realise that its not all sunshine and rainbows on the other side of the screen and that i am not alone in how i feel. however, watching you talk about how you are bored of life of seeing you in that really dark place i was only a few months ago really makes me sad? thats not the word im looking for but idk it just makes me feel shitty again. so thank you for all you've done and know that your audience will be here to suport you but i hope you seek help in your friends instead of snapchat. (i dont intend to come off as rude or hurt you in any way, apologies if i do 💖)


I find the information you put out to be very helpful, not only as a person who struggles with mental health, but also as a person in an intimate relationship with someone in the beginnings of therapy treatments and trying to see their perspective. I am similar in the way that I throw my emotions into the void, knowing people will see them and knowing they won't address them, which leaves me feel almost partially satisfied and overall lonely. So, in some form or another, I see you as a bit of a reflection, or in the light that you can't take your own advice but if someone recited it back to you you'd listen. I also understand the difficultly and discomfort people may have with graphic descriptions of poor mental health, but I also never see it from any other outlet where it isn't fragile and soft and dainty instead of being horrific. It is hard to please everyone.


I like hearing so much about how you're feeling, but you should maybe chill sometimes. Personally, hearing about your problems really help me, because I realize that other people are going through the same stuff as me, but at the same time it might just make the mentally healthy portion of your audience feel sad. I trust you to pick what's right for your channel tho


I have to say I learned a lesson from this video, I felt extremely depressed this past school year. I didn't have any healthy friendships at my school and because I feared burdening people and being told my problems and anxiety are fake. On my Instagram I posted rather dark quotes about a burning hate and an overwhelming sadness inside me. Although no other piers reached out I felt it was a release but it just drove people away more. But I can see now I have people to talk to.

I loved you because I saw my self in those posts, I loved you, and felt fear for you. I wanted to be the person I didn't have But frankly it was scary for a kid. However we understand and love you.


I actually shy away from dodie's social media as well. I try my hardest to go through everything she writes on insta (because that's what i follow her on) and i try to be a supportive follower, but sometimes i just cant get myself to read it and just leave a like to show my support without going through the whole thing.
I think it's mainly because I cant relate. I haven't had any mental illnesses so it's very hard to empathise and i try so hard to because I'm so scared that I'll fuck it all up if a friend confides in me about similar situations or just to be able to send love to dodie, and i feel so guilty when i cant understand what she's going through, but i just end up reading her words without being able to understand how she feels but also feeling helpless because theres nothing i could do about it.
I'm terrified that one day a friend will come to me for support and ill end up blurting the wrong thing, and i want to raise my awareness about different mental health issues, which i HAVE because of dodes, but ive reached a point where i feel like if i end up continuing to read her messages too much ill end up making it about myself and my inability to empathise instead of it being purely about dodie.
And i hate to admit it, but sometimes i skip past purely because i dont want to feel sad and just want to act like everything is right in the world.
Idk does this even make sense?
(The only thing i felt i could do to help was sign up for mental health first aid workshops at my uni. Tried last sem but couldnt get in because all the spots filled up immediately.  I really really hope i get in this time. I dont want to be helpless at a time when there are others who need my help the most. I have a dear friend who might need help and i dont want to let her down when she's already been let down by everyone else she's with.
If this doesnt make sense or is a ramble im sorry. I just dont know how to vocalise what im feeling. I feel selfish and guilty, like im thinking about myself when im the one whos privileged here, but i cant help it)


It might be considered over sharing but personally you talking about your mental health and writing music about your mental health has really helped me get through some really tough days. when I get down in the dumps and can't get out of it and I see a snapchat of you talking about you going through the same thing, it makes me feel like I'm not alone in the mess of it all. It's nice seeing someone who has a big following be so open and so unfiltered when it comes to mental illness. I know that some people are saying that it might be you romanticizing mental illness because your younger viewers might see it as an "aesthetic" but I know for a fact, that I'm not the only one that gets comfort knowing that other people are struggling with this internal monster too. I don't know, those are just my thoughts <3


I can understand that people feel as if you're oversharing or romanticizing mental illness but I honestly find a huge sense of comfort in these kinds of video's. I suffer from depression as well and where I feel as if the people around me don't get it, your video's comfort me because it makes me feel like I'm not alone in dealing with this.

Again, I get what a lot of the comments are saying, especially when it comes to your younger viewers and people who think they have a mental illness watching your video's but don't have one when they think about it. But rather than to stop sharing these things (because it's so important to talk about mental illness!), maybe you can take a different approach when talking about it?