i'm sure you've heard this far too many times, but you speaking out has been truly helpful to me the past few years. i'm just going to bullet different reasons i absolutely adore what you're doing . warning i'm very sappy in this
-  i started going to therapy due to you being so open about your own experience
-  so far it doesn't feel like much as changed (i'm not magically happy) but that's ok! you've said it yourself how slow the healing process is
-  it's somewhat comforting to check your snaps and to see you talking about how you're having an off day (not that i would ever want for you to be sad) only because it's relieving to know i'm not alone in this constant shitty feeling
-  your very open community is extremely loving and serves as a great reminder that wow i'm not the only kid struggling with this certain problem
- i met you at vidcon last year and idk i cry a lot thinking about that because it was really one of the best days. all i said was how i loved your music but afterwards i was bawling to my friend thinking about all the things i would've said had i not been such a wimp.
-  i'm really crying while typing this but idk i just very strongly feel that you're helping more people than you could possibly be hurting. perhaps trigger warnings before any snaps or tweets that may be a bit upsetting to some
-  i'm not in a position to give advice as i'm awful when it comes to sharing feelings, but please do chat with your friends more. they love you and are there to listen to you

i'm sure you've heard this far too many times, but you speaking out has been truly helpful to me the past few years. i'm just going to bullet different reasons i absolutely adore what you're doing . *warning i'm very sappy in this*
-  i started going to therapy due to you being so open about your own experience
-  so far it doesn't feel like much as changed (i'm not magically happy) but that's ok! you've said it yourself how slow the healing process is
-  it's somewhat comforting to check your snaps and to see you talking about how you're having an off day (not that i would ever want for you to be sad) only because it's relieving to know i'm not alone in this constant shitty feeling
-  your very open community is extremely loving and serves as a great reminder that *wow i'm not the only kid struggling with this certain problem*
- i met you at vidcon last year and idk i cry a lot thinking about that because it was really one of the best days. all i said was how i loved your music but afterwards i was bawling to my friend thinking about all the things i *would've said* had i not been such a wimp.
-  i'm really crying while typing this but idk i just very strongly feel that you're helping more people than you could possibly be hurting. perhaps trigger warnings before any snaps or tweets that may be a bit upsetting to some
-  i'm not in a position to give advice as i'm awful when it comes to sharing feelings, but please do chat with your friends more. they love you and are there to listen to you


I remember that snapchat and I had to stay away from your snapchat for awhile because of it. I am in the stage of recovery where relapse is so easy. But I'm glad you are realising this now dodie and I hope you and hazel get more comfortable talking to people about reaching out to people for help directly. Love you both❤


I'm really glad you made this video. I myself have stopped reading your Instagram descriptions just because they make me feel so helpless. Like I'm watching somone drown and there's nothing I can do.


I also talk about my depression and anxiety online, even when I had 1000plus followers. I think its okay as long as you let everyone know that you will be sharing. You will talk about this. If they don't think they're stable enough to hear it, they don't have to. Even though I, now, don't have a bunch of followers, its mostly just friends I still go 'Hey guys, I'm about to tweet about me being so depressed and my life being awful, mute for a while if you need to'

I love you Dodie, do whatever makes you comfortable!


There generally is a „bridge over troubled water“, but we have to find it  AND to walk over it! (I love you, Dodie!)


I've been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder. I guess that's why I don't mind the snap chats, or the videos. I love them actually. I can relate to the feeling most days. I know what it's like to be "mental." In all honesty, I tend to watch your videos or listen to your snap chats when I'm anxious or in the middle of a panic attack. They help me lots. So, thank you for that. Stay strong Dodie, we love you.


Everything y'all said hit home so hard for me especially when y'all talked about feeling embarrassed and like a burden when you go to your friends for help


Often, when I'm feeling this way, I just pretend it doesn't exist because so many people around me are going through so much more and their problems are so much more tangible. So when you open up online (I don't use snapchat but at least on here), you help because I'm sure you validate so many people's emotions, including my own. But this is one of those things where you need to take care of yourself first and think about everything else second. I liked what Hazel said about being slightly better, maybe not all the way, but slightly better before talking about it because you can do it in a healthier way and actually teach people things. But thank you for being so open about your mental health struggles. It's helped me come to terms with my own, and I'm sure it's helping others as well.


Personally I like the amount you share with your audience because it gives me an insight on depression that I don't often get from my depressed friend, since she likes to push people away when she's not doing well (so she feels like less of a burden). You help me understand what she's going through and what she needs that she'd be too scared to ask for. However, I do see how this level of sharing on big social media could be harmful. Maybe having something separate from your main snapchat/instagram (like a blog or another insta or whatever) where you could post only updates about your health and/or any possibly triggering topics that you wish to go into detail about would be helpful so you could keep things a little more separate without downplaying/censoring anything to avoid triggering people at all or not posting something you really want to get out there. Then on snap/insta you could just be like "hey, new blog post!" and leave your audience to decide for themselves how much they want to know each time you have an update. Idk if anyone already commented this or if you've already tried something like this but....yeah, that's all. much love 💙


I was going to start a YouTube channel just so I could let everything out like you do dodie because I have no one to turn to . But now that you one of the only truly real YouTubers is going to stop, I feel hopeless. If start putting a filter on your social media when you speak about your mental health I feel like ypu will just be glamorising mental health. If people get triggered then they should not read your more graphic posts .  Whenever I feel alone I come to this channel knowing someone feels similar but now that you are going to stop actually being real about your mental health I don't know where to turn  because when you spoke in your videos I thought of you as a friend speaking to me. I'm sad that you have made this decision but I'll completely support you dodie no matter what because you are a amazing person


I'm seeing a mental health nurse tomorrow and I'm genuinely terrified, which is somewhat ironic. But this video really helped, wish I knew you guys in real life and I hope it gets easier for you both soon:)


i totally understand that sending really emotional tweets can be so satisfying in the moment. i had to delete twitter in my most depressed days because my friends would be reading my tweets and texting me, and i was just ignoring them. it's hard to approach your friends...

i've decided to start journaling again instead of tweeting all my negative emotions. i can pour my emotions out on the page and scribble and cry and all that. and it's mine, so if i look back and feel a little embarrassed about what i wrote, i can throw that page away and rip it into shreds. obviously journaling isn't a substitute for reaching out to a professional or a friend, but letting it all out on paper instead of online can prevent the problem of oversharing. i support both of you in all your endeavors and i hope things clear up for you mentally soon. <3


dodie of course you have a right to share as much as you want! you're an honest person and i dont think people should have a right to tell you to not share. mental illness isnt roses and daisies or whatever else and i think honesty is important with your audience. its a constant struggle and hiding it and keeping it secret is painful. i love how genuine you are ❤


please don't stop being so raw you honestly help me so much and remind me i'm not alone, i don't know what i'd do without you honestly


Dodie, I like that you overshare. It's good that you're open about your feelings instead of bottling them up inside you. It feels a lot better when you get your feelings of your chest doesnt it?


I think it all lies in balance. I really enjoy your videos like "i am depressed today" especially when I myself am feeling particularly down. It reminds me that I am not alone and other people are coping with this too. You can, however, edit those so you can usually take out anything too intense for your younger audience while still remaining raw and authentic. With Snapchat, you don't get that moment of clarity. It's film, post, done. I think there is danger in that. Also, as Hazel mentioned, I think while presenting your feelings to an audience can be cathartic, it is no substitute for having real conversations with your loved ones. I think posting content around anyone's true feelings has the potential to be a really positive influence as it takes down the facade of the internet personality of "everything's fine. I'm always fine." Too much can be a destructive crutch for the creator and their audience. This media is such a new thing that it is completely understandable that we all have trouble finding the right balance every time.

Wishing you and Hazel all the best! xx


I have watched and loved you and your videos for years now (I even met you once), but I do find myself skipping through your snaps or instagram captions, which I hate to admit. I suffered with depression for years but I got help and it was a long and hard journey but I did it. While I love that the stigma around mental illness is slowly being removed, I personally find it so exhausting and draining being constantly surrounded by it. I have learnt to remove that negativity to help myself, but a lot of young people going through mental health issues don't know when to step away. And while it can be triggering for some people, my issue with your "oversharing" is that I can't (nor will I ever be able to) help you. Your posts, like you said, are a cry for help, but the majority of people seeing it have no way to help you. Someone can tweet you or write you a letter, but the likelihood of you seeing it and it helping you is slim. It's like calling out into an empty void. I so badly wish I could sit with you and talk about it, but at the end of the day, I (and the thousands of others who follow you) are merely strangers. Talking about your issues is so important, but you have to talk about it to people who can actually help you and I think that's what you should talk more about to encourage your followers in the same place to do so as well. Get things off your chest, but don't let that negativity engulf you. I only want what's best for you xx


I really understand Dodie's point of view here, because I'm definitely the kind of person that will spill out all my feelings online. Part of this is because I feel like if I say what I'm really feeling to the friends and family that I can trust, they'll throw me out or push me aside. I guess I'm afraid of rejection when it comes to things that are meaningful to me. This was a good video though and I honestly needed that too. Thank you, as always Dodie <3


I'm not the only one feeling this way! It's relieving to hear that I'm not the only human to put stuff on Snapchat in hopes of someone reaching out because I don't want to feel like I'm annoying or a burden as you said. Guess I just have to work on it


The videos on mental health really help me feel like im not alone but its also good to see happy videos of you giving us a tour on your bedroom and just doing good things. you  said it your self that making videos makes you happy, but if you make sad videos are you happy?


I'm really interested in delving more into the subject of how much is too much when it comes to talking about mental health. As someone who makes YouTube videos / writes blog posts and is trying to deal with anxiety, I want to be able to share what is going on and start discussions about shared struggles. I feel like it's really important to have some kind of representation and dialogue going on so that mental health doesn't feel so taboo. However, I can appreciate the fact that there is a line, and going beyond it can end up hurting people. But where exactly is that line? Hazel made a good point about waiting till you are at least somewhat out of a really low period, but is there anything else to consider when deciding what to share and not to share publicly?


on the opposite side, your snapchats help me so much. if i am ever suffering from depression, your snapchat encourages me to go outside. i see you go outside even though you are depressed. as a "young impressible audience member" i am tempted to follow you and do what you do. so when you go outside where a cute skirt and looking cute, it helps me deal with hygiene. when i see you depressed on the floor, it makes me want to create. it helps me see my mental illness from a different perspective and how me sitting on my bed is making everything so much worse. also, i don't know if you are still on anti depressants but if you want just know they are gonna make you really depressed and put you in a bad mind space for a while but then randomly you start to appreciate life and everything that surrounds you and you feel okay. i am proud of your improvements and thank u for helping me.

as well, you ranting to snapchat is your outlet and that's okay. you don't want to hold it in until you explode. if ranting on snapchat makes you feel better that's great! don't lose it.


Alysia harris' spoken word poem called 'No poems inside the Victorian house' is a great piece discussing pain  and art


I think your posts help me because I feel like I'm not alone. For the people who feel crappy to see your posts about mental health, maybe you can share just not go into incredible detail (which I personally enjoy). So in that case the people who it helps still get to see it but the people who don't love it as much won't be as bothered <3 I love you Dodie 💛💛💛💛 I hope that made sense.


My thoughts on this are that as a part of a group of people that love and support your work, your creativity and art, are that although I so admire ur openness and honesty regarding mental health when you're really documenting the worst of the worst it can be difficult to watch. I watch your snapchat vids and I feel I'm invading ur privacy. I do believe that it's easier said than done to just confide in friends rather than the internet, but I can imagine if you ever look back on the clips of you when you're really at your worst state of mind that it can't be healthy, even if it is therapeutic to share, which I so appreciate btw, I agree that there is a line to which there is more harm being done than good. Thank you for making this video, so so thankful for u on YouTube xxx


Dodie I think you are over sharing just a little but I appreciate that your a youtuber who doesn't shy away from how you feel... I love knowing that your human and have feelings that you show it and your strong about it...Please keep over sharing I love it...It makes me remember that other people have these feelings thank you ❤


I don't do snapchat so don't know what this is referencing, it seems like making this video is having a moment of being really well self aware. I really appreciate you talking about mental health, I relate to putting things online instead of directly asking for help- I always think people can unfollow me quietly so I will never have to be rejected. It's good you're being self aware. It's hard to dissociate and be depressed, I always want to reach out to you because derealization is so so hard and confusing and I want to help.

Maybe your snapchat is too much and not helping you or others, but the videos you've posted here have all really helped me, including this one. So thank you. I hope at least your intentional collected thoughts like here do help you with more nutritious brain calories.


I really needed this today, it is making me feel that in someway things might get better, even though they are shit right now


When I'm down I kinda break down to my friends...and then I feel vulnerable. I feel pathetic and embarrassed, and most of all very alone. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in this ☺


i love videos like this it's a complex subject and this is a very interesting thoughtful chat yes yum


I have struggled so much with mental health in the past. I even wrote a long message to you on tumblr about my problems that I look back at now and am super embarrassed about, but at this point in my life even if things are bad, I have figured something out that helps so much. Positivity breeds positivity. In the same way negativity breeds negativity. So if I catch myself sad thinking about negative stuff I try to find something positive to think about. This helps me feel happier so once I am in a better mental state I can properly assess the negative stuff in a more positive light. It's helped improve my mental state and I've been a happier person since incorporating this technique into my life


I have to sometimes avoid your medias if I know I'm not in a good place to watch and listen to them. But most of the time it is really reassuring seeing someone as influential as you able to be open with us and it makes me not feel alone. And I hate feeling alone. So thank you


have you ever considered making a different snapchat you can use for letting off steam? I know sometimes it can be a bit of a hassle to switch accounts all the time, but it gives you time to think about what you want to say, or if you even want to say it at all! I do enjoy hearing you talk/ramble on snapchat, because it helps me feel less alone with how I'm feeling. knowing that someone else is going through a similar situation helps me to heal and understand that things will end up being okay.

some people see your sharing as too much or too graphic, which I can understand, but whatever you decide to do (talking with your friends about problems, continuing snap rants, etc) know that you'll always have people around you who love and support you, no matter what you're going through♡


Wow. Just wow. This video helps explain stuff that I was never able to explain on my own.


After watching this and hearing what hazel had to say about it i get why your oversharing can do more harm than good. But for me personally I always look forward to your snaps and your videos about your mental health because a) i have a really hard time sharing anything about myself and when im especially low and i see you talking about it it's really nice to see that im not alone and it almost feels like you're the other side of my conversations with myself and b) I want to know how you're doing. I know I don't actually know you but i just get so much out of all of the things you create and i want to make sure you will keep it up.


I definitely don't know what you are going through, but my friend has had a shit time with depression and is currently at a treatment center for a few months without her phone or internet. Because of what my friend is doing, I'm wondering if it might help to just take a break from social media sometimes.  Maybe that's not possible for you (since...you know...it's your job), but another option is to post at a scheduled time with some music or art or something you love to do. That way, you won't be getting your emotions out to your social media audience and will be more inclined to talk to someone you know or maybe a therapist. Again, I don't know a ton about depression and am sure you've already thought about this, but it hurts me to see wonderful people like you hurting.


Such an amazing vlog.  You are both amazing people.


Since I don't use snapchat I'm now really curious what Dodie was uploading there? Overall on the topic: I think it's important for you to talk openly about your experiences, just try to talk to your friends if it's urgent, because social media can't give bear hugs and be "really there". Also there are probably some easily influenced younger people watching you, just consider that. Still, you're brave and awesome for sharing your innermost feelings! Sending you the best wishes and hoping you'll be a able to open up to your friends more / talk to a professional / doctor etc. You can do it! <3


I think you're being honest in letting others know how you feel and don't believe you are oversharing to the point you should stop. Others who are triggered just shouldn't watch then. Real insights are better than fake ones.


Personally, I find Dodie's videos so comforting and helpful. But there is an element of truth to being careful with overly sharing and romanticising mental health with a young audience. (But as a 21 year old woman who understands these dangers I love Dodie's videos.)


I didn't realize how bad I felt till I went to vidcon and just felt so happy there. Even my parents were like "Wow, you seem so happy" and that kinda hit me like a brick. I've tried telling my parents that I think I have anxiety and every time they tell me "You don't know what anxiety is" or "You're fine you're just over reacting" probably because I'm 14 and "i dont know about that stuff". I wouldn't be telling you these things if I didn't feel this way and am always just afraid every single day and sometimes even sad. Tbh, I'm surprised my mom doesn't believe me who is someone who has really bad anxiety(it got so bad she was on medication for it but then she stopped taking it because it made her feel like she had no emotions). I only talk to two of my good friends about my anxiety because they are the only ones that understand because they have similar struggles. One of them has small social anxiety and the other most likely has depression(I'm not saying that just because she told me but from her thoughts she rants about). It's nice to see that here on the internet there's so many people that feel the way I do and it's comforting.


About the fear of being a burden to your friends. I used to fear it too, until my friend explained it to me like  this:  Imagine if you had a friend who was having a hard time and was reaching out to you, you'd first think of how you could help them because you care and you love them. The thought of them being a burden never actually comes across your mind. So if you flip the situation around, and you're the one asking for help, the thought of you being a burden to them would never pass their minds, especially when all they want to do is help. Everytime I feel like a burden, I think about it that way, then I am not so afraid anymore because I know that they'll be there for me just like how I'll be there for them, regardless of how I am feeling. Hope that helps.


i actually enjoy her oversharing??? i really really enjoy watching those videos where you talk about it. when i'm feeling at my worst i can always watch these. i love them. i understand that you're terrified of oversharing, maybe just leave a trigger warning? i really hope you don't stop making these videos


Hey Dodie, hope it's alright if I give my two cents.

I think that I find that when you make videos about mental health sort of in this more retrospective, reflective tone, it makes for a better experience for everyone. I think of your video on how to get over someone. In that video you explained, an experience you had and explained why you felt the way you did. You then moved on to say, "Here is how I've gotten along, maybe this can help you" (although I think your tone was a little more forward in the video :P). I liked that a lot. Like this video, it didn't glorify depression, and wasn't you advertising anything except maybe free advise. It also felt like you had more room to let the experience breathe, and thus the video wasn't as raw and intimate as some other stuff put out on the Internet. That's just my interpretation at least; those more advicey videos allow you to focus your self and your expression in a healthy way that still allows you to talk about the stuff you think that's important.

I don't feel comfortable/qualified to talk about the other stuff, but I hope that helps!


y'all are so eloquent when you talk. It's neat because my and my friend are very similar to you and Hazel. She is going through a really rough patch and is very open to talk about it whereas I am feeling very overwhelmed but refuse to reach out to anyone for help. I kind of like how you don't really sit there and be like HERE IS HOW TO FIX UR BRAIN because it's not that easy and it's different for everyone. Different things help different people. The idea of pouring my thoughts out on Twitter is terrifying to me whereas it's beneficial to my friend (temporarily).

Idk do you dodie. Take some time to yourself if you need. We'll all be here for you regardless <3


i think somehow i missed the main snap story scenario in which this was based around so i can't really give my opinion on how it would've made me feel, but i will say that your stories are something i look forward to at the end of my days so much because we go through a lot of similar struggles and i don't have anyone irl around me that feels almost exactly like i do. so while i agree its sometimes fucked that we go to the faceless internet for support and validation rather than friends and family , i literally have no irl friends anymore and my whole entire family do not even begin to understand mental illness. i am one of the alones , so personally what you do so openly is really big to me. you helped me feel so much less alone. i'm trying so hard to not self diagnose , hopefully i will get myself back into therapy , but you may have even put a name to this horrible detached feeling i've had for several years. so firstly...thank you dodie. secondly...i have made some huge mistakes and serious problems from going to social media before a friend or therapist. or even sleeping on the thought if it isn't life threatening. they can be such toxic thoughts and even though they will effect any recipient of the message, better one person who knows you well and how to help than thousands of strangers who you are influencing with every word you say. it's a lot of pressure i know and one of my only arguments against social media. and a main factor to why i question wanting any sort of youtube/media career. all the love dodes , you definitely have some really great friends.


I really admire your honesty. The way you speak about mental health has inspired me to be more honest with my friends and in turn be more considerate of theirs. I see what some people are saying (self-pity vs self-help) but I've never gotten that vibe. I've always just seen you chronicling your struggles which I hugely appreciate. That being said, I hope you have a good therapist and a good support network ❤❤❤


when you're depressed, do things lose their beautiful fragrances? I can understand not wanting to go anywhere, or talk to people, or listen to anything... but I was wondering if the sense of smell was affected?


I personally like how you can be so open about how you're feeling and where you're currently at mentally, but at times it feels like you can overshare, in a way that can kind of make me feel uncomfortable? I don't know if this makes sense, but sometimes you go into these really bleak descriptions of your emotions and how you feel, and it is really upsetting to see because we, as your audience, can't really help directly. So, thank you so much for your honesty and giving us the smaller updates, but when it gets really dark, please consider talking to someone closer to you who can help and be a physical presence, instead of taking to Snapchat 💖


@Doddlevloggle I want you to post what you want, please do not feel like you need to only be happy for us. We love you because you are so real with us. I feel close to you because we see you at your best as well as your worst. I will watch any video you feel like posting and like it too! xx


I don't use snapchat, so I can't comment on anything that has happened there, but personally I have been really touched and helped by what you have posted on instagram and youtube. Seeing that someone I admire and relate to has been in a place so similar to my bad places in regards to depression and anxiety makes be feel so much less alone, and it really helps. But I also know how important it is to seek help, and I would hate for your sharing on social media to be acting as a bandaid so that you feel like you don't need to seek more significant help.


I find it interesting that you wanted to end on a positive note. It's that burden thing and you-don't-want-to-bring-the-mood-down thing. What would happen if we left others to deal with our pain like we would a sad movie? Does all content or art have to have a positive message to be complete or good?


For what it's worth, I really like your snapchat and personal update. They make me feel less alone and understood, as I suffer from a lot of the same things, and you putting it into words is so so comforting. But I do worry about whether or not it's benefitial for you. I don't know, I understand the comments but I just hope you don't feel guilty or ashamed about it. It's hard enough for you as it is.


I do love your videos and how open and honest you are


Dear dodie/anyone not feeling their best,<br>I do hope you will be happy soon, and i understand that just saying i hope you'll be better doesn't help much, but it did help me when i was quite sad. I wish you all happiness and laughter :)

Dear dodie/anyone not feeling their best,
I do hope you will be happy soon, and i understand that just saying i hope you'll be better doesn't help much, but it did help me when i was quite sad. I wish you all happiness and laughter :)


thanks for this. we were made for the real world not a virtual world, however hard it can be to live in the real one <3 x


It's a difficult balance. I think it's okay to share things online about mental health - it really does help erase bad stigmas about it - but there is a line somewhere. I'd say it's somewhere between being open/wanting to help others struggling, and expressing your feelings because you want to explicitly whine and feel validated or supported. The latter I think should be reserved for friends, counselor, etc. It's totally okay to have those moments but I don't know that mass spreading the worst negative version of yourself to an impressionable audience is the best option, for you or the viewer. I appreciate that you discuss mental health so openly, but yeah, I think there's a line.


I appreciate your "oversharing" because it helps me because I know how you feel somewhat because everyone's problems are different but it does help me


the discussion of mental health and creativity is one i definitely feel strongly about. i don't think being creative makes you mentally ill, but i don't think you need to be mentally ill to be creative. yes, people use their hurt to make creative things sometimes, and it can be really useful for them as a way of expelling it but i feel like there's a really toxic ideology that without your mental illness and pain you can't be creative, or you can't creative good content

its like, people are like 'oh but if van gogh wasn't ill he wouldn't have created starry night' and its like yeah but he also wouldn't have killed himself and if he'd gotten help he could have created so much more like, people these days really seem to shy away from actually seeking help and treatment and finding ways to cope, i've found especially on tumblr and whatnot there's a whole mentality of 'if u want to get better ur not Really mentally ill' and its such horse shit honestly Ugh but yeah

relying on using social media and other online stuff to vent is dangerous, its unhealthy and it does feel like you're verging on becoming dependant on it which obvs is not good. i think its been good that you address your mental health, but it does seem like a step too far. i think stepping back and focusing on talking to friends and professionals would be a good idea and will help in the long run

ultimately, we care about you a lot and i think it takes a lot to put it out there and say 'am i talking about this too much', i think that's super brave. i hope things get better, that you feel more comfortable approaching your friends and i hope that you feel better soon x


I'm only 16 but I'd love to be your friend Dodie 💗 you're beautiful, and funny, and sweet! And so real about everythingggg and stronggggg (all those "ands" though) and talentedddd


I tend to just take a video of myself talking about how I'm feeling, I watch it, and then delete it. For me just doing that feels like my feelings went somewhere (similar to when I write in a journal)


I just think you should do what you feel is good for you and what makes you maybe feel a bit better. If people can't handle your snapchat stories and you sharing your feelings, then they can just stop watching it. There is so many content on the Internet, if they wanna see something happier they can find it elsewhere. I think it's great that you share all of this, it opened my eyes on a lot of things and thanks to you, i was able to understand my boyfriend's anxiety a bit better and it allowed us to open the conversation about his mental health. So thank you <3


i understand oversharing can be triggering to some people, but to me it helps. personally its comforting knowing someone is going through the same thing i am, i like that dodie shares so much because it sets her apart from other artists, she doesn't put on a facade.


Dodie!
I enjoy your snapchats or your paragraphs on Instagram because I have dpd/drd, too, and you manage to put my feelings into words. And I can't thank you enough for it. But at the same time it upsets me, because you're my idol and i have looked up to you for many, many years, and to see you in pain genuinely breaks my heart because I can't do anything.
My point is... maybe you should add a warning or something. I don't think you should stop sharing, just be a bit cautious, maybe?
I love you, Dorothy Clark, thankyou.


Dodie, i do not think you are oversharing-i am fascinated to learn about your life and your struggles


About the creatives being mentally ill thing: I don't think mental illness is actually any more common in creatives than it is in the general population. Loads of people experience mental illness (we're talking 1 in 4 here) we just see it more "creative" people because those people are more likely to talk about their thoughts and experiences.


i can relate to what dodie does exactly and i feel like i need to change but i dont know how...


dodie i feel like you say or write so many disclaimers for what you sau. people will be mean whatever you say, so try to just own it. just be yourself and be proud x


I think a good way to decide what you believe is oversharing is to wait before you post. While you're in your Dark Places, it good to get it out, either by vlogging or writing it down or talking to a friend(especially talking to a friend). But then you have to distance yourself from it for a little while until you are out of the heat of the moment. Then you can look at it in hindsight and make your decision. It really is important to get all your thoughts out in the moment, but thinking before you post is also important. And I am in no way trying to tell you how to run your channel, there is just concern to be had about triggering others, especially with the unique platform you have. (I also feel it important to mention that I don't struggle with depression or depersonalization, so I definitely don't understand everything that you and your audience feels, which may make my opinion a not helpful one)


I'm kind of with Hazel. I always feel like I can't or shouldn't share how I feel when I'm feeling it? Like, to the point where I've had counselors and therapists that have been completely pointless because I literally do not share anything with them so they actually cannot help me and do their jobs. Haha. Whoops. But I'm getting better at sharing.


Dodie please don't let the people being mean in the comments affect you. I know you probably won't see this but I just really want you to know that it's okay that you overshared, we all make mistakes but everyone is being really mean about it. I just want you to know I love and support you even if you make mistakes sometimes! I love you Dodie please stay strong! :)


I don't think you overshare at all. You are being real, you are being yourself, and you are giving us the incredible privilege of knowing you, and knowing all about you. I think sharing about how you are feeling can help sometimes. You sharing about your problems has also helped me feel less alone, like someone else understands. You feel a lot of the time the way I feel, and seeing you fight it and have mental illness and still find success is incredibly inspiring.
But do what you want, Dodie. Do what makes you feel good.
I love you.


I like when you share online because it helps me and makes me think i love watching your videos : )


Hey dodie, as someone that hasn't followed you too closely, and someone with a plethora of mental health issues, I wanted to say two things in regards to you discussing your own mental health.

1. Thank you for adding honesty to this topic. Even if you talk about it often, the social stigma means many never hear that it's normal and okay and doesn't invalidate you as a person.
2. I did have a mixed reaction on one of the first times, kind of 'heres this successful youtuber cashing in on a real issue' but that wasn't an accurate read of you at all.

Definitely snapchat isn't the place (not that I've ever been there) to discuss mental health. Still, mistakes are just part of the process.


argh i'm sorry for what you're both going through and i just want to hug you and be there for you and i wish you all the best in this world ok over sharing or not you deserve to be happy. i hope there are better days to come for you soon


you both looked suupper pretty in this video lots of love to you both xx


i agree with hazel that u should try to talk about things after theyve happened so youre more level headed about it and can be constructive about it


missed you bab <3 glad youre back, the earth needs it alot


Honestly I completely 100% relate to you dodie bc me and tumblr together after 11pm is not a good thing. i post such cryptic or not so cryptic things about my feelings like knowing some of my friends will see and there's a part of me that wants them to reach out but there's another part of me that doesn't want them to. one of my best friends kind of asked me the same question that hazel did which was like why do i post things like that if i don't really want anyone to ask? but i guess in a way we're just so used to sharing the good parts of ourselves on social media and putting our lives out there that it helps to also put the not so good things out there. it's almost like a relief to tweet or post about such crappy things bc at least it gets out of my head you know? and i've gotten a little better about reaching out to actual people but even then i think it just makes me feel worse because i don't want to make them feel bad or upset about what i'm telling them. so i guess in a way social media is our friend that we can let everything out to but we don't expect an answer from and that's what makes us feel a bit better bc at least it's somewhere? not very healthy but that's what i've chalked it up to be. either way i'm trying my hardest not to do that and if i do just need to post something somewhere i have a very private blog no one knows about!

u could also try a finsta if u just really like posting on instagram lolol


One day I was feeling so helpless and I was in a pretty rough place and I posted a thing on Instagram about it. I wanted someone to care about me and I wanted someone to worry about me and I didn't know who to talk to. I felt so horrible about it and I felt very guilty because I didn't want to seem needy but I really wanted to feel cared about. It was a stupid decision and I felt so wrong but so many people responded and they cared so much. I have a HUGE problem with feeling like I can't talk to anyone. I go through everything in my head and I know exactly what everyone is going to say and I just need someone to listen sometimes instead of responding. Most of the times when I am in this mental state of self pity and self loathing I just leave it in my brain and don't do anything about it because I feel like I know the reaction they'll give. Now I feel like I've been repeating myself this whole time but anyway, I need to get better at asking my friends and family for help because that one time when I posted about it I felt so bad about all the people that cared so much I felt like I had guilt tripped them into responding.


I've really had to distance myself a lot from you and your content because of the way you talk about mental health, especially these past few months. I understand it's been really helpful for a lot of people, but for me it's honestly been pretty triggering (although honestly my reasons are pretty specific — not so much triggering my own problems but triggering anxiety related to someone else). I'm still subscribed to both your channels but I've never been able to follow you on snapchat and have had to start, like, shutting off my brain somewhat? idk how to describe it? whenever I went to watch a video on this channel because I could go from 100 to 0 at literally any point in a video.

For a couple of years I'd been in a situation, manifested both by my own and the other person's actions, where somebody had become overdependent on me wrt their mental health. While this has since been resolved and I don't hold it against them, I unfortunately still have a lot of leftover anxiety from it, and your posts/videos often trigger it. The way you talk about mental health is so reminiscent of some of the conversations I've had and messages I've received in that situation that I often can't engage with you and your content. As irrational as it is, similar personalities, similar mental health issues, even similar ways of writing and speaking, often raise that same feeling of sheer panic that makes me feel like you're /speaking to me directly/ and like I have to HELP YOU IMMEDIATELY otherwise you might do something drastic. I think part of it is what Hazel mentioned — I can sit through lots of other videos and posts about mental health because they're usually speaking from a more objective perspective, but hearing it from someone who's in the depths of a breakdown is so. Much. Scarier. It's literally so scary.

Anyways, that's a pretty specific experience, but I figured it's worth commenting because that's also another perspective to consider.

I'm really glad you're addressing it, though. It's hard to find a way to share without oversharing, but I hope you manage to find it, as talking about mental health is in itself a really important thing. I just think there are much better ways to go about it.


honestly i really appreciate the honesty of your snapchats because theyre so relatable and they really calm me down? i feel much more understood! and your snapchat stories made me realise i disassociate Quite A Lot and now im getting help for that!! i really love your snapchat stories but i do understand what people are saying about oversharing BUT i also definitely Dont think you romanticise mental illness, youre so honest about how youre feeling i cant see how it would romanticise it you really show mental illness as the shit show it is ya know?? anyway what im trying 2 say is i love you a whole lot xxx


I think it's great you share about you mental health as it makes people not feel alone and connected as a community but at your lowest of lows it can maybe be seen a trigger point ?? Obviously it's okay not to be okay and ask for help , we are all here to help you like you help each of us individually with videos. I'm sorry you are going through this but you will see the end of this , nothing lasts forever. I can't wait to see you live and I have a massive letter to give you to thank you and to talk to you😊hope you are doing okay atm. See you soon Dodie and hopefully be able to talk to you.


Dodie i don't care what anyone else is saying, I really appreciate what you share. Being someone who has suffered with depression and anxiety, seeing your posts on social media and here on YouTube have really helped me. It makes me feel less alone. And there are no other social media personalities who show how impactful mental illnesses are. If you want to cut down how much you share for your sake, you should because you should do everything you want to make yourself feel better. But, I really love your insta captions and how much you share and how much you show how mental illnesses work. there isn't anyone else who does that, I appreciate it.


If you feel like you need social media as an outlet but want to ensure you aren't oversharing to people who don't want to see it, maybe do trigger warnings? X


i love you too so much ty for sharing... i think just spurting out that HEY IM NOT OK is kind of relieving even if no one sees it for me bc i feel like im doing something about it, even if im not getting any help from it and if a friend does pick up on it im kind of like a deer in the headlights and aaa dont worry about it im all good <b>finger guns</b> but im not, you know? i really dont want to be a burden bc i care about you sm and I would hate to worry you  because i would never go back to doing anything harmful to myself because ive worked too hard to overcome that so i am physically fine and ok but my brains is a m es s ALSO when someone does bring it up, it always happens to be on a day when im so far from my "not ok" state, it''l be a day when im extremely happy and ecstatic about life and where im headed, which is pretty odd and inconvenient to both of us bc my sad remark has nothing to do with present me. anyway, it sucks so much and i wish everyone could just be happy and ok, but as hazel said, we're meant to suffer its just part of the human experience but i hope it doesnt last too long for anyone

i love you too so much ty for sharing... i think just spurting out that HEY IM NOT OK is kind of relieving even if no one sees it for me bc i feel like im doing something about it, even if im not getting any help from it and if a friend does pick up on it im kind of like a deer in the headlights and aaa dont worry about it im all good *finger guns* but im not, you know? i really dont want to be a burden bc i care about you sm and I would hate to worry you  because i would never go back to doing anything harmful to myself because ive worked too hard to overcome that so i am physically fine and ok but my brains is a m es s ALSO when someone does bring it up, it always happens to be on a day when im so far from my "not ok" state, it''l be a day when im extremely happy and ecstatic about life and where im headed, which is pretty odd and inconvenient to both of us bc my sad remark has nothing to do with present me. anyway, it sucks so much and i wish everyone could just be happy and ok, but as hazel said, we're meant to suffer its just part of the human experience but i hope it doesnt last too long for anyone


keep doing what your doing. i love you and your videos so much ❤❤❤❤


I completely get how 99% of people think that you're oversharing and I get how for 99% of people that can be scary or triggering or annoying. but I just wanted to say that I'm part of that 1% who know that your 'oversharing' has helped to make me not feel like I'm the only one or not feel like I'm just going insane. I almost feel a comfort in your snapchats and social media, don't get me wrong its a bittersweet comfort, almost like its pouring with rain and you've been stuck out in it for days and you come across shelter but its this little shack thats damp and cold, its not what you need and its not whats best for you but you appreciate it and find comfort in it. you sharing these things is great, it breaks down the stigma and helps people like me, but I think in order to do it you also need to overshare the good parts and balance it out, show people that yeah, life can be really really shitty sometimes but there are positives too. thank you for everything xxx


i wish i could just message you when we both feel terrible and when we feel happy


Don't get me wrong, I understand so much what everyone is saying but for me hearing someone else describe what I'm feeling when I feel depressed/detached from my reality helps me a lot... it reminds me that I'm not the only one going through this and someone out there uderstands. I can't really talk to people I know, I don't know why I just can't and just listening to videos or reading blog posts of people going through something similar than I am feels like I'm having a conversation with someone who finally understands me. Of course, if it really hurts people I would understand why you would stop over sharing about your mental illness but know that you have helped me a lot and I have felt less alone in all of this thanks to you. When I'm out with friends and family all day and fake a smile for hours and hours at work or at parties, it feels amazing to just turn on my snapchat or YouTube and listen to you talk and finally get to feel what I have been repressing all day. Feels like I can finally be free and feel what I really feel!!


I don't know if it's just me that's experienced this, so I don't know where to start really. But everyone has to get the idea about mental health from somewhere, either in a book, or a video or a film or something. And they gain an idea about what that thing is. I think that you could maybe explain your mental health in a better light possibly? I just feel like because you're telling people YOUR experience only, it makes the viewer only see ONE view - which doesn't really make sense because there are hundreds of different types of mental illnesses. Maybe make a video informing people about diff. mental illnesses and not just your own experience to bring a lighter note to the subject? I love your videos though so much, but I do have to take care when opening your snapchats - because sometimes I'll be in a really great mood and I know that if I open them there is the possibility that it'll bring me down - they're not always negative, of course not, and I'm not saying that you shouldnt' share your life/experience with this at all - I just feel like you could inform your viewers more on the subject of mental health with research so that it makes them learn something rather than just like...watching a film play out...because it makes it seem...not real? <3 Love you


'Suffering is a part of human existence. We weren't intended to just exist and be happy all the time and if you didn't suffer you wouldnt be able to tell the happiness apart from it.' i really really like that sentence from Hazel for some reason


Omg hi I saw on sc you were looking at comments and I just wanted to pop in and say hey. So umm.... hey! I love your vids and I've been watching for about 3 years now. Idk if you remember me but we met at 2016 playlist. I came out to my friend in front of you. Thank you for allowing me to do that . Thank you for all your wonderful music. I hope I get to continue to support you . <3


I've thought a lot about the whole "creators being depressed" thing, and here's what I think: Maybe people who have deprived of outlet for either creativity or just an emotional outlet find things like YouTube and other creative jobs. So a lot of people who are depressed create content on YouTube, whether it be very creative, artistic things, simply opening up, or a combination of the two, like a stereotypical YouTube video but with self-deprecating humor.


I'm new here. I love the honesty. Please share more.


This may seem to be an inadequate comment but good job Dodie and Zannah for working though it together.


I love this video, you girls are amazing.


I used to be a crazy texted when I was feeling low. I would feel so blue, then tell people things I didn't want them to know, and say some random shit that isn't helpful to others. But I've immediately regretted it. I have been working through filtering the things I say for close to a year now... I do feel like I hurt people a lot and I'm working through this. I hope I'll be ok controlling myself soon


Powerful video, you share a wonderful relationship


I think we all depend on what other people think about who we are and how we are feeling, it's not obsessive but it also is. It's so easy to crave attention not in a bad way at all just love and care! I feel the need as well for people to know how I'm feeling because I'm a very emotional person, however others hold it in yet still wish people were wondering about them. I think sharing on social media can be unhealthy but it's different for everyone and if one feels the need to just talk and make the action of filming yourself or typing it's simply a form of sharing and realising that you are in fact sad. Maybe just film yourself don't share it, maybe save videos of yourself speaking as if to all your Snapchat followers but just save them and when you're having a good day watch them back and you could appreciate them or just delete them. This is just my opinion but hope it helps someone


what i would say is that you shouldn't let videos subjected around the theme of mental illness dominate your channel? recently i've been seeing a lot of videos of yours about your depression when i'm on a high and it just brings me crashing down so much, and i'm sure a lot of other viewers of yours feel the same. this also might affect younger audiences and cause them to get a twisted/romanticized view of mental illness? i love your channel and videos a lot, but if i was going to give an answer in any way it would be that you should reach out to your friends instead of oversharing to people on the internet who may come across it and get their mentality destroyed - that's certainly happened to me. i think that its hard to disassociate yourself with mental illness when you've unintentionally established that theme on your channel, but lessening the amount of content related to your extremely raw feelings and damaging thoughts might help you and a lot of people watching :)


Something that I hear a lot from people when somebody posts something about their sadness or depression online is "you're just posting that for attention" and I think that is partially true, but not in a bad way like people make it sound. No I don't think that you are just wanting people to look at you and for you to get satisfied by the likes of that post, but I think it is trying to send a message that you need help. You are wanting attention so that you can find people who will understand, not so that you can be "special" and of course, there are many other reasons why people post their feelings online like how sometimes just writing stuff out can just be a release and may make things seem a little clearer writing done what you are feeling and thinking. If there are other reasons why maybe somebody you know or just yourself posts about your feelings, could you please explain why you do so. I want this to be an educational thing so that me and other people can help understand certain things more.


I feel honestly like you are, every post on your Instagram is just about depression or how you feel and I've got to the point where I don't want to read it anymore. If you're getting help that's great but I feel like it's not great or healthy to share that much online especially with that many fans. I'm sure you have such lovely friends and family to talk to so maybe try and stop posting so much for the public. It causes me a lot of concern and I do worry but I don't want to have to. We do believe you, we do.

It feels like I know too much about you that I don't want to know or feel like I shouldn't know because it's too much, it really is.


I personally understand and don't mind it when you share your experiences and thoughts, but maybe you shouldn't share as much when it comes to expressing them online. even though we as an audience may help you, it isn't good for you to rely on us! please be careful


I understand what people are saying about oversharing being a real thing for you. But babe, just want you to know that I will never stop supporting you no matter how much of your life you do or do not share with us.<br>In terms of Snapchat, what if you just snapped to a group of safe people (friends who truly want you to contact them) when you are in a bad place? Then you can still talk to a camera but also directly contact the people who can actually help you. Love you, girl. Hang in there.

I understand what people are saying about oversharing being a real thing for you. But babe, just want you to know that I will never stop supporting you no matter how much of your life you do or do not share with us.
In terms of Snapchat, what if you just snapped to a group of safe people (friends who truly want you to contact them) when you are in a bad place? Then you can still talk to a camera but also directly contact the people who can actually help you. Love you, girl. Hang in there.


I'm someone who's not very active on most forms of social media, Snapchat being the one I look at the least. So for me I don't typically see Dodie's tweets and sc stories. I focus on what's on her channel. I go to doddlevloggle for aesthetically pleasing videos, funny collabs, and really touching videos I can relate to. So I guess only seeing a fraction of her messages to us "doddlers," I'm getting a not-horrible amount of mental health discussions and aren't particularly brought down very much by them. I do understand, though, if you are watching all her sc stories and reading all her tweets that you would probably feel overwhelmed.


Hi, i havent seen your snapchats but i gotta say i really appreciate this kind of videos where you.open up.<br>ive been feelin really lonely And your videos and u talking about the problem, and not ignoring it because i really try to ignore it and ir makes me even more sick , well it helps

Hi, i havent seen your snapchats but i gotta say i really appreciate this kind of videos where you.open up.
ive been feelin really lonely And your videos and u talking about the problem, and not ignoring it because i really try to ignore it and ir makes me even more sick , well it helps


I don't know if you'll ever even see this comment, Dodie, but here goes; I don't think I can ever put into words how much I admire how open you are with your feelings. Watching this video, I completely understand where you, Hazel, and Zannah are coming from in regards to the dangers of oversharing, however I am in quite a similar situation with my sister at the moment. She is 12 years old and has been dealing with anxiety, depression, and battling an eating disorder all year. She hasn't been to school since March. The only difference with her is; she has shut everyone out. I understand that it's difficult to comprehend these emotions at age 12, but it makes it so much harder on those around her to understand how she is feeling and how to help her when she refuses to come to us for help, and pushes us away when it's clear that she isn't okay.
We always used to love watching your videos together. Last time I was visiting home she was in a really bad place, but refused to accept my help, so I pulled up 'Secret for the mad' on my phone, put it in front of her and left her to watch it. When I came back she was in tears and drew me into a big hug, and just that gesture seemed to express a million words.
 I'm at University, and live four hours away from her and my family. This makes it even harder when I try to reach out and help her by calling/facetime etc., but she is able to insist that everything is "fine" and can simply hang up the phone to refuse help. I'm at a loss as to what I can do at this point. To be honest I lost track of where this comment was going, so I'll just finish with this; Oversharing can be hard on those around you, but it is equally as hard if those around you don't know what you're going through, or how to help. I guess it's all about finding that equilibrium. Watching your videos, Dodie, in particular your doddlevloggle videos, makes my heart swell; we all love you so so so much xxxxx


As someone who doesn't particularly deal with any anxieties/mental health issues - I genuinely find you snapchats etc rather helpful/interesting. My boyfriend has been having a really hard time lately with anxiety and what not, so its been pretty helpful to see someone talk about it in such depth (my boyfriend doesn't like talking about it all too much). I guess you could say you're over sharing, but it's nice to see it brought to light so people don't feel alone - of course I see how it could be a bad thing too. oh well! xx


THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DO TOO.<br>I go on to snapchat and just poor my heart out to people from my school and people that I've know and they probs think im CRAZY and say I need help, but they don't say it to me. I just feel like thats what they think. I've been doing it less tho so CHOO-CHOO the train to bottling up emotions has come and I've gone on board!! Yayy...😀🙃🙃🙃🙃😀😀😀😀

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DO TOO.
I go on to snapchat and just poor my heart out to people from my school and people that I've know and they probs think im CRAZY and say I need help, but they don't say it to me. I just feel like thats what they think. I've been doing it less tho so CHOO-CHOO the train to bottling up emotions has come and I've gone on board!! Yayy...😀🙃🙃🙃🙃😀😀😀😀


Am i the only one who replays her snapping intros over and over until I can match it to the words lmao


I dont think you overshare too much, i think its good to vent, but I can also see how on sc you could put up a warning before you vent and let people know when you're done. But it could be really helpful to people if you continued to talk about your wellbeing and suchh (this is long, sorry i repeated a bit of the things you already said in the video, ily)


Yeah, love the honesty but it is a bit much and it gets to me and can make me think too much and too aware of my broken brain 💖


This is the reason why I stopped watching your Snapchat stories. While i think it is awesome to have an outlet and a diary type thing, it also can be very triggering to people who have struggled with mental health issues in the past. I really appreciate you making this video and talking about it. I truly hope you feel better and try to get on different anti-depressants. I'm on Lexapro and it has done wonders for me. Hopefully your anti-depressant starts kicking in and helping you out. And Dodie, you have to want to be happy. I know you think you want to be happy because everyone thinks that, but do you want to change? Do you really really want to change? Because in my experience you have to want it badly in order for it to happen (with a little help from meds and friends and family of course). You're going to be okay, Dodie. You're going to get through this.


This is going to be controversial but I completely disagree with the majority of these comments. As someone who is frequently in a similar headspace to you, I find it comforting to go home after school, and find that you, someone who has achieved so much and changes so many people's lives daily, is experiencing the same things as me. It gives me hope that I can achieve things and change people's lives. I agree that you have an impressionable and young audience, and perhaps it would be wise to filter your content a little, or to provide a warning, but I (strangely?) personally benefit hugely from some of the more graphic/honest things you put online. I know several others who agree. :)


9:20 "if u were happy everyday of ur life, u wouldnt be a human being - youd be a game show host" -heather mcnamara


personally, your oversharing has helped me. I started to feel horrible and because of your descriptions I could recognize similarities to discuss with my therapist and discover my symptoms.

however, I still clearly understand that you are oversharing and the concerns about that. when you consider backing off of social media because of it, I feel both kinda weirdly disappointed that I won't connect with it and very glad you're taking a step for yourself. and obviously the more important choice is the one for you. it's your mental health and you gotta care for it first.


There are worse coping mechanisms. It's made you more relatable and helped you open up, but you should also be talking to a psych or counsellor etc. sending hugs either way :)


Dodie, I know that I don't know you as in real life, but you mean so much to me, and I care about you and listen to your songs all the time.. I am too on medications and it's not easy, I hope I could talk to you because I might never have a person whose so similar to me as you, I know that I don't know you like 100% but I even look like you 😀, everyone says that to me 🙈!! , I really wish I could meet you and talk to you and be friends with you😢, I need a Dodie in my life!


Well I am going to contradict what all of the rest of these comments are saying. There is a line of oversharing, sure. However, I think "filtering" your depression to make it more palatable for viewers is much worse. I don't have snapchat so I can't comment on that, but I don't feel like the videos you make here are oversharing, or dark, or romantic. The real issue is that everyone in modern society is depressed because a) we are all so grossly afraid of being even a little bit vulnerable b) we exist in a media full of magazines, movies, tv shows and youtubers who present a fantasy, edited way of life that is marketable but ultimately makes people hate themselves. It seems like a lot of the people here don't understand what the romantization of mental illness really means. Romanticizing is making it seem glamorous or artistic. Being open or too dark or "depressing" about your depression is not romanticization. It may be uncomfortable but it's not romantic.


it's nice to see your depression vids dodie bc i'm like oh like if she's like this i'm okay! but then it reminds me oh. wait. i have this. this is me. life is disgusting. i'm disgusting. there's no point in living if i know i don't have the potential to do something in this world that will make an impact. and even if i did do something it would eventually all be forgotten and be for nothing which– YOU SEE? it makes me start thinking depressive existential thoughts no one should have. it's great that you're open but my stupid brain can't help but start feeling depressive when i see that type of stuff. i don't know man.


okay guys dodie got a stern message from a concerned friend and now Hazel is literally telling her the same thing, I think she understands the consequences of over sharing now. I cant believe I scrolled down and saw so many people just bashing and explaining why they unfollowed her


It makes total sense why you would talk so much about it. When i get these thoughts one of the worse things is to hold it inside. Sometimes it feels good just to vent.


OMG THE FREAKING WOBLY PLATES I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE LIKE DAT OMG 😂


I'm gonna be honest, I hated that comparison of mental illness to physical illness, "I can't move bring me 7up" is not going to be better😕


I feel like maybe if it helps you and some others to post about it then continue doing it but put warning out so people are choosing to still read it or hear it. Idrk I understand in the moment its hard to filter what you say tho and I can understand its hard to know what to do and I'm sorry I can't have really good things to say and help


A LOT of your success is based on aesthetic and built on social media. When you start working mental illness into your social media, it makes mental illness a part of your aesthetic, whether or not thats intentional. Your image is entirely romanticised by your fans, particularly young fans. So regardless of intention you are romanticising mental illness a bit. Your pouring your heart out on snapchat is telling your fans that this is the way to deal with mental illness, when it really really is not. Your massive audience that is mostly built of other neurodivergents and supportive people is going to have a very different reaction to the handful of middle schoolers your fans reach. I think thats important to think about. Regardless of this rough patch, I've been a fan for years and years now and likely always will be. But thats what we are. We're fans. Not friends, not therapists. Just fans.


Whenever I start to feel really yucky what i do is talk to the voice recorder on my phone if i just need to speak my feelings, hope this helps someone!😘💗💛💚🌟☀🌻🌹


I think that this is a HUGE HUGE huGE problem in our generation. We rely on these shallow connections and shallow responses online when we are feeling low to give us little bursts of feeling okay only to send us spiraling back down later when we should really turn to INDIVIDUALS in our personal lives who actually know us. I feel like this response might not be taken well yikes okay I am not saying that viewers don't give good responses or that you can't connect with fans. I am saying that sending out SOS tweets to a massive audience is okay occasionally, but doing so on a regular basis just enables that fear of confiding in your friends and it also makes you even more isolated because at the end of the day, it is just you and a phone or you and a computer blah blah blah ALSO your fans try to give it to you straight but whether we see it or not, viewers romanticize the living shit out of Youtubers. You are going to get a more real and straight response from someone who knows you up and down and in between in your personal live and they are also going to care on a deeper level. They don't think you're some hot shot Youtuber or someone they idolize (or they might who knows). It is okay to confide in us but it is so much more important and healthy to confide in friends and family. I want you to be better so badly Dodie. You are such a lovely human being. PLEASE PLS please go to your friends and family when you're in the pits. They care about you and they want you to come to them and you need them. xoxoxoxoxoxo


I don't follow you on snapchat so I can't speak on that, but as far as music goes, no. Music and art is meant to be an outlet for struggles and emotions, so if you make a song or a poem or a painting about what you feel, then you're less likely to do something rash.


sertraline changed my life and the lives of so many people i know, please give it another try for longer or try different ones don't give up !!!


I really agree with zannah and hazel. I too have started to shy away from your content lately. Not because i want to, but because it has started to worry me. I want to help you, but im also a faceless youtube comment so it makes me feel a bit helpless. Please, please, i beg you. Keep trying. Therapy, group therapy, support groups, coping mechanisms (healthy ones), medications (although they never really worked for me and i was increasingly frustrated and spiraling downward with each new medication, so i dont usually recommend them, but if you feel or if a doctor feels thats what you need i dont want to stop you) I know you wont even see this or if you do, wont read this whole thing, but you can dm me on twitter @Healeyyy if you need to talk to someone you dont know. keep talking to psycholigists. Talking to someone. Even if it is on sc to us, Keep trying. It sucks but its worth it. One day, you wont remember what it is like to feel that low. I look down at my scars every day and am reminded of where i was six years ago, never ever feeling like i was going to make it out of there. It is possible. I believe in you.

Tldr: i believe in you, and i am worried about you, just like zannah and hazel. We love you, dont give up


I'm not saying you don't have a mental health problem nor am I hating. But you do seem to talk about depression in the "mainstream" way , this does give a very laid back idea about it. You do talk about it a little to much, you share it so much to the point where it isn't believable. The rambling and non stop snapchat stories about it isn't helping your very young and impressionable fans deal with their own mental health. Many people including my self have depression and sometimes watching you brings us down even further. The way you talk about your medication not working does make me and certainly others fell doubtful of our situation.

I know that recording this may be an outlet but maybe try documenting but not posting , OR maybe se up a new channel like "DodieTalksReal" where you do discuss mental health and people can chose to watch these things.
i do enjoy your music and your very beautiful, something's are best kept to yourself . Get help dodie , we all love you ❤

I'm not saying you don't have a mental health problem nor am I hating. But you do seem to talk about depression in the "mainstream" way , this does give a very laid back idea about it. You do talk about it a little to much, you share it so much to the point where it isn't believable. The rambling and non stop snapchat stories about it isn't helping your very young and impressionable fans deal with their own mental health. Many people including my self have depression and sometimes watching you brings us down even further. The way you talk about your medication not working does make me and certainly others fell doubtful of our situation.

I know that recording this may be an outlet but maybe try documenting but not posting , OR maybe se up a new channel like "DodieTalksReal" where you do discuss mental health and people can chose to watch these things.
*i do enjoy your music and your very beautiful, something's are best kept to yourself . Get help dodie , we all love you ❤*


It can be easier for people who are sick to cry for help because there's proof. But there's also a lot of people with invisible illnesses. And hardly anyone believes them. Even doctors at times.


(ok i'm only 25 seconds in so a better response will come later but i just wanted to say your laugh is ADORABLE AND MAKES ME SO HAPPY ok thanks bye)


Practice mindfulness online. Get a therapist and see them often and consistently. Constantly posting as a way of venting isn't helping you work through anything you're dealing with, in most cases it makes them worse.


have you tried medication? it did wonders for me


So many of you are so sensitive like this is her channel and her thoughts she has every right to talk about what she wants without being chastised


If you can share the good you can share the bad that's how the internet works if you feel like you need to share it fucking share it post whatever you need to


What photos would you people prefer she post on her instagram? It shows that despite all the beauty, there's an underlying darkside.


i feel like you really are oversharing, and, as you said, in the end it's just a one-sided video and you aren't getting any help and not really benefiting from it. nor is your audience, since it can be triggering and personally, it kind of brings me down. it's not about the content- i think it's great that you're raising awareness about mental health issues - it's the quantity. it's too much. too much negativity. it has become too big of a part of your channel. when people describe you, they almost always mention mental illness. and you are much more than that.


I think the videos should be recording at sat on for a while, and then edited with intro and outro coming from a better place. Some really intense things that you feel like you can't really say to your friends you should realize you do say to your camera, but it's not just your camera, it is to your other friends on the other side of the camera online. I run into the same issue where I get too detailed talking to someone in real life even when I don't mean to, and it becomes damaging to that person to hear the raw unfiltered truth about just how terrible I feel. If you wouldn't say certain things to your friends in order to protect them and make them not feel powerless to help and feel down, remember that we're your friends to and save the gruesome details for therapy, and after you've worked it out there and have had time to watch your raw unfiltered video maybe a week later before posting it, you should totally come back and tell us how you felt, when you feel less intensely and there is less of a danger that you would be harming us, and have perspective and maybe something at least sort of positive to add to the end and beginning of your video like tips that you learned in therapy or things that helped you get out of this state, even if you say that you just had to remember that it would pass and that it wouldn't be so intensely terrible forever. Just my thoughts. I totally understand where you're coming from because I have the same issue and I overshare with the only person I can talk to, but instead of burdening him and being too completely honest amd damaging (further) our relationship I will deal with it in therapy and then if they want to know give him the watered down version. People who aren't on the same level of crippling mental illness and sadness I think can't really process or understand descriptions of something so intense, and they can't endure it if it is one of the only things you talk about. I think it's the same thing online. When you talk to your camera you have to realize you are talking to people and that people can't necessarily handle a lot especially people who care about you. Oversharing and over feeling and having bad mental health take over everything I talk about every time I talk pushes people away from me and makes them feel like they are talking to an illness and not a person, and that's all they ever get to talk to any more. I have to be a person that has mental illnesses, not mental illnesses with a personality. That's how I got broken up with and lost someone very important to me. I was defending you in some replies to other's comments, and then i realized that I'm defending you because I behave the same way and understand where you're coming from

Jeez I have so much to say about this. I promise I'll shut up. I get the feeling of wanting someone to truly understand how you feel, but in order for that to happen they would have to truly suffer as much as you're suffering in that exact moment. You would never telepathically force someone to experience the agony that you feel. People can empathize with you but empathy is only an approximation. They can only feel what they've felt before and can assume you are feeling, so there is literally no way outside of science fiction to join your personal universe based on your experience of the world with someone else's. People understand others' emotions through projection, and superimposing their experiences onto you to try to understand what you're going through. In literature it is sort of like the divide between the empirical and the sublime. and I think that emotions fall into the concept of the sublime. Empirical things can been seen and verified by the people around you, but the sublime solely exists in the mind and cannot be communicated to others except through metaphor. So even in treatment there's no guarantee that what your experiencing even correlates to the diagnosis you're given because that diagnoses is a result of you attempting to empiricize the sublime (what you're feeling) and the psychiatrist trying to interpret what you mean based on textbook knowledge and their own emotional experience and flawed observations of other patients, projected onto you. No one truly understands anyone, but when you put something out into the world from the Dark Place the separation between projection and truly understanding grows thinner and if the person who cares about you is experiencing your misery through such a thin barrier it becomes too real and that experience is shifting further on a scale towards them experiencing it themselves because video is powerful that way. So basically if can get them very far down along with you because they are better empathizing with you and are right up against the other side of the glass hearing you scream.

I know I'm late to the party, but I also wanted to add a thought. If experiencing every but of mental illness feels and is absolutely horrible, how do you think it feels for a loved one to watch you experience all of that with no buffer or filter and be completely unable to help? People who do care about you say they want to hear everything and want to be there for you, but in reality they can handle those terrible things about as good as you can in your worst most crippling moments, or be much much worse at handling seeing you that way because it's not normal for them and they've never experienced that level of complete suffering. You would never want to see someone suffer the way you suffer, but in a way that person is suffering with you when you give them the whole unfiltered truth, especially when you show it to them through video, because it's almost like being in the same room and watching you, but being a ghost and not being able to console you. I hope that makes sense. You probably won't ever see these comments, but I do admire you and your honesty and I do appreciate your mental health videos because they help me think and figure out what's going on in my own head. I just hope that future people who watch this video and end up reading my comments take something away from it. And by thinking and writing out these comments I have definitely taken away something valuable that would never have been addressed or even noticed or thought about on my own.

But I understand now what everyone means because talking about it in the comments with strangers made me understand a little better, and think about why I have this perspective and why I'm defending you and essentially myself and make a realization and change my mind and the way that I behave.


I had to unfollow you on snapchat because it had become more negative for me than positive to continue to watch your snaps about your mental health


Creativity and mental illness are not linked and shouldn't be linked. 'My broken leg makes me a better runner.' I think mental illness can give you a deep well of inspiration to use when you are in a better place. Linking them gives yourself an excuse to not seek help- 'if I'm happy, I can't write good songs! I can't express myself!' It's dangerous.


its funny.
i have one boy who is a dear friend to me, who i trust to the moon and back.
but i say so much and he never gets to talk. at some point i just want to sit him down and ask him how he feels. just once at least. and it never happens.


a little unrelated but are dodie and hazel roommates?


I never followed you snapchat and your instagram I followed but I didn't obsess over it and like check it all the time. And I don't have anyother social medias so I can't say anything about you oversharing things and being graphic like other people are saying. But something that helps me out alot and I started doing this a year ago maybe. I made an anonymous Instagram account so I coukd vent about things that were getting me down. It's completely anonymous and I switch out between that one and my real Instagram. I'm also a writer and I tend to incorporate how I'm feeling into what I write.


fake it until you make it, try it really helps. learn something new/ do something new something you will be excited about


And you dont share to much.i like how much u share cuz then it makes me feel less crazy


I read this as overshagging I'm so sorry


I'm sorry dodie but I'm very tired of hearing the same things regarding your "mental health"


It seems like almost every Instagram post and video is about depression, it is a little of a downer to always see the in my recommended/feed


I definitely feel like you overshare and it's made me shy away from your videos and snaps because they just start to make me angry. I understand you need a release, but at this point it all just seems like you are looking for self pity and your audience is more than happy to shower you with fake praise and love to make them feel good about making someone else feel better. It's just a messy cycle. I'm sad that all of this has happened because I used to love you and your videos but now I just feel uncomfortable with everything I know and I can't bring myself to like them like I used to.


I hate to say it, but you do overshare a bit too much. I mean I understand, but I know it could bring other people down. It would make more sense to talk to people who you know personally


I always worry when people do this because it can trigger others and it can make people question their own suffering, comparisons can be really harmful to some people. I know that getting it out in that way can be good for the person, but it usually isn't for the audience

Sometimes it's about wanting attention and empathy, and it's not wrong to want those things but pain is hard to share

I recognized this in myself and stopped sharing with my other mentally ill friends and on social media bc I could see it was affecting them, and I have parents and a therapist I can talk to, and once I stopped it was pretty easy to stop altogether


i just finished the video and the first thing i had to do was just take a biiiiig breath in and out idk

i just.. i just i relate so much to you, my mental health isnt nearly as bad as yours esp not anymore and much less frequent but i have been down there so i personally still get a lot from watching you talking about it and i overshare a lot as well, though i dont have an audience in that sense like you do. so yea on one hand i understand why you share so much (it might be to get aware of how you feel as well, i often dont really know how i feel until i tell semebody idk) but on the other hand i definitely understand as well why you wouldnt want to do that and regret it or feel awkward after you shared so much


No....don't share your life with thousands of strangers  because it shows that you need the affirmation of random people, which is extremely unhealthy. Share with your friends and love ones.


I don't have you on snapchats so I'm not sure how I feel about that cause I haven't seen it, personally your videos about mental Illness even ones in the moment do help me a lot, but not sure it because I'm recovering while some of your viewers are still in that place, personally yes it makes me think and it where I turn on my off days, but to others I'm sure it is different, maybe film in the moment in upload it when you aren't so in that mind space


🙁😖😑😒😏🙄😐😛😁
How I normally help my friends that need help.
Usually works
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So many people in the comments using the word "triggering" when I don't think they quite understand what the fuck it means. A trigger isnt something that makes you slightly uncomfortable. Cause guess what? Mental illness is fucking uncomfortable. It's messy and when you're depressed or anxious it's hard to see the world as anything different. It's nearly impossible to get out of your own fucking head, and it sure as fuck is hard to talk about it to anyone around you because you convince yourself you aren't worth the trouble and you don't want people to worry. I 100% understand why Dodie talks about her mental illness so damn much. It's hard to talk to people who keep butting in with their advice and opinions when you just need to fucking vent, and anything anyone says to you just convinces you that they don't actually understand what you're saying and feeling, and makes you feel alone. Sometimes you need an outlet. And just talking to yourself without anyone to hear makes you feel fucked up and even lonlier. Sometimes you need to talk and have people hear you and to not interrupt. And it takes a lot of bravery to talk about your problems on such a wide platform, because there will always be cunts like you people in the comments who say "you're oversharing" and "you're just romanticising yourself" or "this is just part of your brand". No. Just, no. FUCK you guys. You should be ashamed, because that is the LAST thing a person in dodie's position should be told. She needs love and support and understanding. Yeah, she's seeking attention, but that's because she's drowning. She's a prisoner of her own mind and she needs to get it out. It's not a "brand", it's part of who she is, and you assholes need to fucking deal with it. People are always saying "oh we need to break the stigma on mental health," "more people should talk and open up" "if you need to talk, don't hesitate" and then assholes like you guys perpetuate the stigma by shaming people into clamming up again. You're all fucking hypocrites. Dodie, don't listen to the assholes. You have a support group of people who love and won't judge and will listen. This is YOUR channel. If the dickwads are scared of "getting triggered" they can fuck right off and not watch. You can post about your mental health struggles as much as you need to. Hell, if you ever want to PM me to vent feel free. I, and others who understand what you're feeling, will be here  to listen when you need to vent, and offer support when you need it. Don't listen to the hypocritical hoarde of asshats.


i used to find your sharing helpful, but now i find a lot of it triggering. i cannot look at your instagram, your snapchat, and i stay away from most of your videos. you need to stop this, please. using the internet as an outlet is very dangerous; you have a lot of people with mental health problems and i think you are damaging your relationship with them. it's okay to tell us you need a break because you are going through a particularly difficult time. please do.


I hate my life I just see to go from one failure to another now I am 23 life is going nowhere fast


Hazel hysterically laughing as she says "We shouldn't be waiting for The End" is one of the most oddly relatable and reassuring things I've heard all week <3


This video rings so true about how I feel when I reach out to people. It's so great to know that I'm not the only one who feels this way. It's good to get some perspective from other people on how it makes them feel when other's post a cry for help, ya know? Seriously, thank you so much for making this video. Hope you start feeling a bit better soon Dodie sending lot's of love!


firstly i want to say that i love you dodie. anyway, for me, someone who is struggling with mental health stuff similar to you, i really appreciate how open you are about your mental health, your bad days, your good days, you getting help, everything, it makes me feel less alone, i'm so used to youtubers faking a smile and making viewers think that the world is all rainbows and happiness because it ISN'T, mental health exists and being open with it as you would the same with any physical illness is a good thing

and yes sometimes you overshare, but if it helps you who the frick cares? don't get me wrong you have a young audience who are impressionable but we all know what to expect with your snapchat etc so if people don't want to be brought down by it then why chose to watch it? if it helps you then do it, it's simple. yes talking to people close to you in real life is the best option but sometimes ranting into a camera is good therapy, sometimes some moods aren't 'enough' to call a friend over and a lil rant on snapchat makes you feel better i 100% relate

maybe a good option for you would be to make a second snapchat or instagram where you talk openly about this stuff, so it'll be less people and then people can't complain about being upset by it as they've decided to follow an openly mental health sc/ig? or before you open up on snapchat post a black screen with text like "warning- potentially triggering mental health chat incoming" so people are aware of it? idk. i see it from both perspectives but i personally think that being open with this sort of thing is the best option, although maybe sometimes filter the really hard hitting stuff


I love you so much Dodie! You can get through anything, I know it.


Dodie, you're wonderful and I'm sorry you've been struggling lately. ❤ I'm so proud of you for getting the help you need, being on the meds you need, and for being so open with us about everything.

Maybe you do tend to overshare a little bit, but know that you're not alone. Generally speaking we all need to find a balance between sharing on the internet and talking to our friends/professionals in real life. It's a little different for you because you have a huge platform, but please never ever stop shining a light on mental illness! Maybe just find the line between sharing vs saying way too much, yknow? But if anything these are the honest conversations we need to have more often and not just when a celebrity kills themselves.

Lastly, thank you for being the first person I've ever looked up to that's ever even mentioned depersonalization, something I struggled with mostly as a teen and still do on occasion. You make me feel less alone. I wish you the best and know that you are loved. Your feelings are valid and we are rooting for you. Take care of yourself! X


thank you, dodie <br>hearing you talk about mental health makes me feel like I'm not alone in this world

thank you, dodie
hearing you talk about mental health makes me feel like I'm not alone in this world


Videos like this, I love. They're so real, and it's always so nice to know that other people are going through what I myself am going through. However, it is true that while it's helpful for me and others, it needs to be helpful for you, too - because although we all care about you here, we can't actually do anything for you. Friends, family, medical professionals, counsellors; those are the people you need to open up to.
We love you Dodie. And Hazel. And I love these videos. But please, do what is best for you. Xxx

Videos like this, I love. They're so real, and it's always so nice to know that other people are going through what I myself am going through. However, it is true that while it's helpful for me and others, it needs to be helpful for you, too - because although we all care about you here, we can't actually do anything for you. Friends, family, medical professionals, counsellors; those are the people you need to open up to.
We love you Dodie. And Hazel. And I love these videos. But please, do what is best for *you*. Xxx


things I love about dodie 💛
her voice
her insta theme
her hair
her laugh
her smile
her aesthetic
her songs
everything.
you are a masterpiece dodie, we love you 💛


I've good a mad love for all the content you create. This is because of how much of yourself you pour into to it, I'm here enjoying all of this because of the person you are when you are up and when you are down. I don't expect anything more than the real life dodie, you are a human and not some character that someone created to be perfect. Although in my opinion you're as close as it gets. I know lows and daily mental struggles and many see the same picture of what that life is but we don't all take away the same view from it. I'm here for all dodie has to offer even if it's sad because it's the truth, and it doesn't matter to me that it's just venting emotions and trying to feel better when she snaps she's giving her truth in that moment and that's why I like dodie. Life is just a collection of moments good and bad I'd  be happy to have them all for you dodie.


This is an amazing video. So helpful. Thank you both ❤


'Sorry I haven't been making much recently; I look like this a lot, and I'm always on my floor' this needs to be on a t-shirt, and all the creatives need to have one. ❤


Your posts have never made me feel worse or uncomfortable in anyway and have always made me feel like I've got a friend that understands me, please do what makes you happy.


i love you guys so much i hope that one day i live with a friend who understands and relates to the mental health struggles i have to deal with and makes me feel safe and loved instead of living in the toxic environment im in right now


Having you talk about this means the world to me. I often think " I can't have bpd because x,y or z" even though I've BEEN diagnosed. To hear you say "this is the way I am and I also suffer with this" is amazing because it reassures me that my entire diagnosis isn't falling a part. That being said if this isn't healthy for you it is not your job to make me feel okay at your detriment


I'm really glad you made this video because I have noticed that you've been tending to overshare lately (and I don't even have snapchat so I haven't been seeing what you post there) and it's good to see you acknowledge it. On the one hand, as a lot of people say about you, it's good to see someone who discusses their experience with mental illness because it helps a lot of people feel less alone and encourages them to get help as well as destigmatizing mental illness. However, like with anything, it's possible to take it too far and I think that's what's been going on with you. Being candid and open about mental illness does not and should not mean documenting and broadcasting every bad moment. Like Zannah said, it's just empty calories, it might feel better in the moment but in reality it does very little to actually help you get better in the long term. It's not good for you and honestly I'm concerned about how it affects your young viewers as well. Not only can it be concerning to see someone you love talk about how low they feel all the time, but I worry about how people may interpret what you're putting out there. Normalizing mental illness in general by expressing that it is common and not embarrassing and important to get help and work on it is good, normalizing the bad or unhealthy behaviours caused by mental illness is not.


This is one of the most positive video about this topic that I've seen in so long. I'm so happy you've made this