I could totally picture a scenario where Nightmare Moon did manage to get her hooves on the time spell and used it to do whatever it was she was going to do, in fact as long as she had the spell Nightmare Moon could've become both the ruler of Equestria and the ruler of time itself as well.

Flawless logic, terrifying flawless logic!

Flawless logic, terrifying flawless logic!

Do you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything?

Do you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything?

With the way time travel is presented in MLP, it would require a brand new and possibly very complicated spell to rule over multiple time lines. Each jump back to the past causes a brand new branch and the only way back is to undo the original changes. You could possibly go back and forth between a few timelines by doing the exact same change in the past that you did before, but even the smallest mistake could cause a brand new branch and your old branch to be much harder to access.

A new spell that skips time travel entirely would be required, and unless Nightmare Moon frees the pillars from limbo, I don't see her being able to make a spell like that.

@Sawtooth Waves starlight glimmer wasn’t as powerful?

@Sawtooth Waves starlight glimmer wasn’t as powerful?

@Sawtooth Waves what if in this pony verse

@Sawtooth Waves what if in this pony verse

@Sawtooth Waves how did u make your own my little pony?

@Sawtooth Waves how did u make your own my little pony?

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 the night queen is not stopping for anything.

@Sawtooth Waves nightmare moon the evil alicorn of the night.

@Sawtooth Waves nightmare moon the evil alicorn of the night.

She will use her power to zap the traitor from her kingdom.

She will use her power to zap the traitor from her kingdom.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>Super🦸♀ curious🤔 ❓ 🤨

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
Super🦸♀ curious🤔 ❓ 🤨

@PALICORN HQ the subjects are in danger because their leaders are gone.

@Sawtooth Waves how are going to be safe from the villains?

@Sawtooth Waves how are going to be safe from the villains?

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 so it would take a little push from g5 to set the villains free without notice.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 do you think king thorax will find out what sawtooth been up to?

@Sara Samaletdin that king doesn't know any thing about chrysalis.

@Sara Samaletdin it's crazy to think about.

@Sara Samaletdin it's crazy to think about.

I feel all timelines just vanished as soon as Twilight left and didn’t exist separately.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 they are gone the villains won.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 they are gone the villains won.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>😰 But they're every good😇 guy's enemies😈 😱

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
😰 But they're every good😇 guy's enemies😈 😱

@Suma Varghese <br>Don't worry. The Spirits🌌 of the Elements💎 of Harmony🎼, and so will I. I promise💛 😊 🌟 😇 💞

@Suma Varghese
Don't worry. The Spirits🌌 of the Elements💎 of Harmony🎼, and so will I. I promise💛 😊 🌟 😇 💞

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>[Gasping😲]! "Dead💀"😲!?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
[Gasping😲]! "Dead💀"😲!?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>"Rest😴 in peace☮"😯?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
"Rest😴 in peace☮"😯?

@PALICORN HQ that and to crush the equestrians under their hooves.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 I wouldn't feel too sorry for the three bad guys.

@Sawtooth Waves about scorpion My Little pony and what happens to to Queen Chrysalis when starlight defeats her and after she makes his clothes at the My Little pony the five the six friends what happens to her after that what do you think happens and and in the movie like what do you think who why were they all like why didn't the map show all those places even before they went there because like wouldn't that map show you the entire world though first I think that's weird and in the future twice hair starts slowing like Alessia and lunas did and starlight she gets the entire School of friendship in the future and gets married to whatever his name is I'm guessing twilight's purple is related to them cuz she has her skin and and he has her hair his hair like it's obvious and who's the very first bad guy in this world who is it hope you can find out

Why was his video aired on Monday instead of Friday?

Why was his video aired on Monday instead of Friday?

Chrysalis was right about thorax is just a coward and a cry baby.

Chrysalis was right about thorax is just a coward and a cry baby.

@Sawtooth Waves why do always follow you is because I always want to be with you.

@Sawtooth Waves I am sorry but the mane 6 are gone dead.

@Sawtooth Waves I am sorry but the mane 6 are gone dead.

@Suma Varghese I loved sugar cube corners.

@Suma Varghese I loved sugar cube corners.

without elements of harmeny ,she could be distroied by the magic of friendship like sombar was

@Crazy Max actually the big tree with  the pink sleeves was confirmed to be the Student 6's Tree of Harmony.
At least on Twitter by the artist that had made that scene.

Note I don't remember who the artist was, secondly links don't work on YouTube, third it's late here (23h15) and I don't have the Twitter app on purpose) so yeah.

@Crazy Max actually the big tree with  the pink sleeves was *confirmed* to be the Student 6's Tree of Harmony.
At least on Twitter by the artist that had made that scene.

Note I don't remember who the artist was, secondly links don't work on YouTube, third it's late here (23h15) and I don't have the Twitter app on purpose) so yeah.

@Sawtooth Waves are you saying that king thorax is not a like the other changelings?

@Sawtooth Waves I think you know equestria girl’s. One of the 3 evil humans look identical to starlight. What do u think?

@Zhafawasfound Maybe in the show, but that is a possibility 🤔

@Zhafawasfound Maybe in the show, but that is a possibility 🤔

@Crazy Max what if in the next movie sunny and her friend find out about it 😧

@Zhafawasfound That's why we need to know!! Thank you!!

@Zhafawasfound That's why we need to know!! Thank you!!

@Crazy Max oh yeah I forget about that! What happen to the tree?

@Crazy Max oh yeah I forget about that! What happen to the tree?

@Sawtooth Waves Could we talk about the tree of harmony? Twilight said that the tree keeps changing to what Equestria needs it to be, so what happened to it in 'New Generation'? Is it gone? Is it hidden? Is it still operating? What happened to it?

@Sawtooth Waves yeah makes more sense that way.

@Sawtooth Waves yeah makes more sense that way.

@Cameo Shadowness all starlight is explicit about is the maps role in pulling twilight along. if starlight was able to teleport at the time, perhaps using the map for that as well was just a matter of convenience and practicality. the map does the teleporting for her so she wouldn't have to teleport herself and twilight back and forth from ponyville to cloudsdale each time.

@Sawtooth Waves except that Starlight KNEW when and where her target would be. Why would she need to teleport there via the map if she knows where she's going and when. She can just teleport back in time, same place, and move to where she needs to be. It maybe extra but it shows that the map isn't nessasary for getting to the location at all. Plus we know she can teleport (but I can't remember if she could at this time).

@Narsan that's a really good question that i didn't have time to go into. you're right, we do have reason to believe the map is only there when twilight was, since applejack was surprised to see the map in an area she knew well. but it's not clear if starlight actually needed the map to change the past. The way she described it in her speech is that the role of the map was to drag twilight along with her: "But figuring out I could use the map to go to any time or place /and/ pull you along with me? I even impressed myself with that." and then referring to the scroll: "Touching it triggered the map to whisk you here..." Of course Nightmare Moon wouldn't need that feature. Later Starlight says the map is connected to all of equestria, and brings twilight to her old home, indicating the map may have played a role in the "where" of the spell as well. But nightmare moon didn't need that either. Her destination was in the same place, just in the past. So the map was necessary for starlight's exact plan to show twilight a world without her friends, but for nightmare moon's general "change the past" plan, the edited time travel spell would have been enough.

@Sawtooth Waves i think you missed a thing, can Starlight travel in time without the map? She used the map the first time it did, and Twilight as well everytime

I don't think it would be all that easy for her to do to be honest. First use of the elements was on discord before Luna became nightmare moon. Preventing the elements being found would turn the timeline into a discord timeline, which nightmare moon would return to. She'd have to defeat Discord, but it's likely he would overpower her or rip her dark magic away. And then there's also a Celestia she'd have to defeat and possibly a Luna as well. That's at least two very powerful enemies she'd have to face, possibly three. <br>And if Luna and Celestia are both in the present she returns to, they would possibly still be connected to the elements. Not the physical gems, but the qualities. Both of them together fully realized the elements and were able to use them in the original timeline. And it's also been shown that the magic of friendship does not rely on the physical gems. Considering all those possibilities, I doubt that she would be able to easily achieve her goal

I don't think it would be all that easy for her to do to be honest. First use of the elements was on discord before Luna became nightmare moon. Preventing the elements being found would turn the timeline into a discord timeline, which nightmare moon would return to. She'd have to defeat Discord, but it's likely he would overpower her or rip her dark magic away. And then there's also a Celestia she'd have to defeat and possibly a Luna as well. That's at least two very powerful enemies she'd have to face, possibly three.
And if Luna and Celestia are both in the present she returns to, they would possibly still be connected to the elements. Not the physical gems, but the qualities. Both of them together fully realized the elements and were able to use them in the original timeline. And it's also been shown that the magic of friendship does not rely on the physical gems. Considering all those possibilities, I doubt that she would be able to easily achieve her goal

@MLP ANG Theory Guy <br>But, dude, I know Pinkie Pie♀(🦄🐴/👩🦸♀🌠 + 💥🌌🎉)[🎈 + 🎈🔵🟡](🎊🥳🎆)💖 is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Laughter😄

@MLP ANG Theory Guy
But, dude, I know Pinkie Pie♀(🦄🐴/👩🦸♀🌠 + 💥🌌🎉)[🎈 + 🎈🔵🟡](🎊🥳🎆)💖 is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Laughter😄

@PALICORN HQ yea,that pink pie episode is quite messed up in a way that you don’t really know what’s going on,(I still don’t understand that pink pie episode).

@MLP ANG Theory Guy <br>I know Nightmare Moon♀ is a villain💀

@MLP ANG Theory Guy
I know Nightmare Moon♀ is a villain💀

@PALICORN HQ <br>No headache. I'm healed 😇

Yea, I can totally agree with you that EVENTUALLY, Nightmare moon will discover time travel in any other way after Twilight told her how she defeated her with the elements of harmony,heck she even may actually be the ruler of time it self right now.

@Sawtooth Waves also how's your brain doing after making this kind of theories

@Sawtooth Waves hey remember that episode of pinkie pie duplicate her self which you talk about twilight killed real pinkie . Well in my theory<br>All pinkie are connected to actual pinkie if twilight kill the real one than all pinkie should died together but it didn't happen so pinkie pie did survive . Also the book twilight read actually aren't true and there is no Ans because they didn't mistake while finding their pony

@Sawtooth Waves hey remember that episode of pinkie pie duplicate her self which you talk about twilight killed real pinkie . Well in my theory
All pinkie are connected to actual pinkie if twilight kill the real one than all pinkie should died together but it didn't happen so pinkie pie did survive . Also the book twilight read actually aren't true and there is no Ans because they didn't mistake while finding their pony

@Sawtooth Waves <br>I hate👿 when the Universe🌌 Worlds🌎 are destroyed💔 😥 😭 💦

@Sawtooth Waves
I hate👿 when the Universe🌌 Worlds🌎 are destroyed💔 😥 😭 💦

ruler of the multiverse? 😳 kinda like how ultron almost destroyed all universes in marvels what if...?


Honestly, I don't think Nightmare Moon could force Starlight into creating an alteration of the time travel spell, not without giving her all the means to overthrow her. Follow me on this one: Starlight is one of the most, if not THE MOST, talented unicorns in Equestria and Nightmare Moon needs her knowing how to alterate the spell in order to actually cast it. This would translate into a Starlight with all the knowledge to take care of Nightmare Moon by herself, either by casting her away or by equalizing her,  and force all of Equestria under her rule of equality. And, if Starlight actually didn't turn on Nightmare Moon on that occasion, she could've just tweaked the spell in order to trap her in another universe all together, or even  cause her to revert into princess Luna.

But I think Nightmare moon would give starlight glimmer her throne. I mean why wouldn’t starlight agree

@Samuele Zichella I wouldn't feel to sorry for sombra.

@Samuele Zichella yeah there might be a whole war between them. Sure starlight doesn't have as much power as NMM but her village was loyal to her and she could do that to others as well and she is very powerful. Not even twilight could beat her and that's a big deal

@Samuele Zichella So her idea of making the whole of Equestria equal was doomed from the start, in any timeline.

@cdcdrr i see your point. Nightmare Moon could also pull a Sombra on Starlight in order to submit her. In the end, it'll all come down to wit and knowledge about each other's powers, abilities and ways of thinking, on top of how they use their powers. There are lots of ways they could counter each other: nightmare manipulation, a spell that prevents from falling asleep, mind control, inventive mind. The list just goes on until one of them has the last laugh.

While Starlight might have the brains to think of a way to entrap Nightmare Moon, I don't know if has the resolve. The thing about tyrants is that they are both suspicious and cruel, and we know Nightmare Moon to be manipulative. She'd want to be certain Starlight does not betray her. So she'll find leverage over her, and it's trivially easy for her to discover what Starlight values, if she knew Rainbow Dash wanted to be a Wonderbolt already on the same night she was released. Her unresolved issues with Sunburst would mean Nightmare Moon can threaten his life if Starlight betrays her. Easier yet, her father is another pony Nightmare Moon can use as a hostage. Even equalist Starlight doesn't strike me as willing to sacrifice them in a bid to cheat Nightmare Moon.<br>That is assuming she needs to use such brutal methods to gain Starlight's cooperation. Rarity and Rainbow Dash seemed genuinely loyal to Nightmare Moon despite her overthrowing a beloved ruler and ruling with an iron hoof. Whatever she does to ensure the loyalty of ponies who opposed her in the regular timeline, she might be able to trick Starlight just as easily.

While Starlight might have the brains to think of a way to entrap Nightmare Moon, I don't know if has the resolve. The thing about tyrants is that they are both suspicious and cruel, and we know Nightmare Moon to be manipulative. She'd want to be certain Starlight does not betray her. So she'll find leverage over her, and it's trivially easy for her to discover what Starlight values, if she knew Rainbow Dash wanted to be a Wonderbolt already on the same night she was released. Her unresolved issues with Sunburst would mean Nightmare Moon can threaten his life if Starlight betrays her. Easier yet, her father is another pony Nightmare Moon can use as a hostage. Even equalist Starlight doesn't strike me as willing to sacrifice them in a bid to cheat Nightmare Moon.
That is assuming she needs to use such brutal methods to gain Starlight's cooperation. Rarity and Rainbow Dash seemed genuinely loyal to Nightmare Moon despite her overthrowing a beloved ruler and ruling with an iron hoof. Whatever she does to ensure the loyalty of ponies who opposed her in the regular timeline, she might be able to trick Starlight just as easily.

@Jean-Philippe Paradis (Hexstream) the night terror

Nightmare Moon getting equalized would be deeply fucking hilarious!!

@Edward256 this is starting to hurt my brain in the best way

@Edward256 and maybe this is the beginning of the last timeline<br>I love MLP multiverse

@Edward256 and maybe this is the beginning of the last timeline
I love MLP multiverse

@♪ 𝕌𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕕_𝕀𝕟_ℂ𝕒𝕓𝕚𝕟_𝕀𝕀 ♪ you're at the wrong mile marker. You are barking up the wrong tree.

@♪ 𝕌𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕕_𝕀𝕟_ℂ𝕒𝕓𝕚𝕟_𝕀𝕀 ♪ I'm not sure. Remember that villain Starlight showed no inclination towards working for someone. I think she'd either refuse and try to fight Nightmare Moon or go along, waiting for the right time to turn on her

What if Luna made a deal with Starlight and Starlight joined Lunas rule? Not as a huge ruler but maybe convincing her to be some sort of police officer or someone to inforce her rules?

♪ 𝕌𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕕_𝕀𝕟_ℂ𝕒𝕓𝕚𝕟_𝕀𝕀 ♪

@Edward256 That would be too much even for her: there's no way she'd be able to prevent everyone to achieve their talent and, by proxy, their cutie marks forever. Beside, we saw in Troubleshoes' case that it's not required for a pony to embrace or even be aware of their talent to get a cutie mark. In order to wipe the cutie marks completely off Equestria, she'd need to get rid of all magic all together (which we know she wouldn't do, given how she values magic) and, even in that case, we know from the G5 movie that ponies still have a cutie mark, even of it's only on one flank

@Samuele Zichella Well, maybe she already does: When a pony realizes and embraces their talent, Cutie Mark! How else did she get hers if not through a triumphantly executed spell.<br>So, I think her first step would be to keep Sunburst from doing what he did. Then, like at the CMC camp, talk all the kids into doing nothing. And if a CM appears, all she needs to do is cast the CM-Removal spell.

@Samuele Zichella Well, maybe she already does: When a pony realizes and embraces their talent, Cutie Mark! How else did she get hers if not through a triumphantly executed spell.
So, I think her first step would be to keep Sunburst from doing what he did. Then, like at the CMC camp, talk all the kids into doing nothing. And if a CM appears, all she needs to do is cast the CM-Removal spell.

@Edward256 it is an interesting idea, but it would be hard for her to come up with a plan like that. She'd need to know what causes a cutie mark to appear and not even Twilight knows how that work

Third timeline: Because Starlight knows what she's doing, she finishes the spell and then instead of handing it over uses it herself to go back and prevent cutiemarks from the very beginning.

This could be yet ANOTHER timeline split where in one she overthrows nightmare moon and in another nmm succeeds. Similar to the discord vs nmm scenario


Lets give a BIG thanks to Sawtooth waves for posting the amazing content for us and he spents alot of time and effort in the videos of us and they always makes our day or night even better <br>keep it up

Lets give a BIG thanks to Sawtooth waves for posting the amazing content for us and he spents alot of time and effort in the videos of us and they always makes our day or night even better
keep it up

No offence, Sawtooth actuallly uses they/them pronouns.

What if queen chrysalis poisoned king thorax with king sombra poisonous magic by putting sombra poisoning magic on his bug meal?

@Sawtooth Waves I wouldn't feel too sorry for the villains sawtooth.

@Sawtooth Waves that and to crush all of equestria under their hooves.

Yeah thanks for making my geography homework a little more interesting haha

@Sawtooth Waves  love you're new profile pic BTW 🙂 and keep it up


this is a very interesting concept you’ve tackled and done it well! good job!!

What are the villagers going to do without their leader?

Why? Couldn't they just vanish their own enemies?

I hate👿 villains😈 😠. They're every Cartoon Hero🦸♀'s enemies 😤


Can we just appreciate how they spend her time on their videos for us to make us happy

@Dr. Ekmek no... Their pronouns are they/them

@HearMeOut17 Yeah I didn't meant as an insult at and I have a member family that falls onto it so yeah. :)

@ChristinewhoYT Ableist basically means discrimination against disabled people, or thinking less of them because of their disabilities. I said that because it sounded like you were using autism as an insult, but now that I re-read your comment, I don't think that's what you were intending to do. I think I just misunderstood what you said.

So, assuming you really weren't using autism as an insult, I take back my previous comment. And I'm sorry now for what I said.

@HearMeOut17 what does albeist means? Sorry English is not my first langugage.

@ChristinewhoYT You seem to understand an ableist's POV quite well 🤭

@ChristinewhoYT why did you bring autism into this ???

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 and it's always nice to leave something nice.

I think since I am tired I had forgotten for a sec that autism exists and that some people don't understand emotions the same way I do.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 wjy what? Using their? It's a pronoun or do you ask everyone to use your name all the time?

It as been used forever as a singular pronouns for generations the spelling just changed

yes! even as the gen 4 series has ended.


I love these multiverse theories, they’re so interesting and anything could happen. Starlight starting a cult in jail, then spreading it throughout the land, is something I want to hear more about lmao


allow me to add a happy ending:
After destroying the Elements of Harmony, Nightmare Moon finds a young pony to train as her successor because being an evil queen actually has a lot of boring tasks and she has no interest in doing that. This scholarly pegasus named Moonlight Dazzle (this can be anyone, my OC is just a placeholder), quickly realizes that ponies are starving because their crops need sun. Bargaining with Nightmare Moon she is allowed to enchant the moon with Celestia's trapped magic to release the sun's necessary nutrients so that crops may grow. Moonlight Dazzle begins to have higher and higher power, as Nightmare Moon begins to grow more psychopathic from the dark magic corrupting her; and less enjoys doing all the paperwork. Eventually, Nightmare Moon vanishes altogether and Moonlight Dazzle inherits the crown as the next highest in power. At the coronation, the support from all the ponies transforms Moonlight into a true princess much to her shock, and gains the ability to enchant the moon to replace the sun altogether, although it will never be as bright or as efficient as the sun.

I know this is 100% fanfic, but when I get ideas I can't stop writing

Woah this is so good I’m throughly interested in this story


Considering how easy it is for characters can move between G1 and G4 it's possible for nightmare moon to conquer both equestria and ponyland and just go between the two here and there. She'll have to deal with the inhabitants of paradise estate. The ponies are pretty easy considering how powerful nightmare moon is, Danny's skills with strategy and traps require him to be aware of the threat coming (he doesn't keep traps up all the time after all), Megan's strategies use either team work or trying to plead to the good side of their enemy, nightmare moon would probably take the rainbow of light and either destroy it or turn it back back into the rainbow of darkness meaning nightmare moon has more power, nightmare moon would probably destroy the princess wands. The good thing thanks to nightmare moon likely to not destroy Megan, Danny, and Molly or through them in a jail cell, well she would probably take them to her Palace and they would definitely be watched at all times considering how much trouble could cause. So they would technically still be imprisoned. Well Megan might end up in a cell for a week or something if Megan tried to do the talking plan on nightmare moon Wich would probably anger nightmare moon (especially if Megan reminds her of Celestia). Also knowing Danny he'll say something dumb sooner or later. Heh molly is probably going to be the only one not to get introuble. Also this means nightmare moon would be their legal guardian Wich makes sense considering Megan is the oldest and she's twelve. Also I just realized what happens to the CMC and cozy in this timeline!?!

@Luna Kingsley. I would just like to note how funny the skit between the two equal town ponies was.

@Wooden Lock my guess is tirek created it. That would explain why the rainbow of light was so small.

@Luna Kingsley. But why were they separate to begin with? Were they once one whole being but then split apart for the sake of balance as is with the Sun and the Moon at Celestia and Luna's command?
These are questions left unanswered by canon rule due to the fact that it simply wasn't explained back in the day.
My question is, if you're implying that one force is set out to completely eradicate the other, then why does that other force even exist at all?

@Wooden Lock the rainbow of light littarly absorbs the rainbow of darkness and turns it into the rest of the rainbow of light. If that's possible then it's logical that someone could do the reverse and turn the rainbow of light into the rainbow of darkness (and if anyone can do it then it's likely to be nightmare moon.).

Very rare to see a comment about G1, it's almost never talked about.
I would have to disagree about your statement concerning the Rainbow of Light and the Rainbow of Darkness. In the G1 pilot Rescue at Midnight Castle the Rainbow of Light and Darkness are seen as two separate entities, though it is implied that they are of the same essence since both have "rainbow" in their name.
It's like balance between light and darkness. If darkness were to blot out light then there would be no darkness, and if light were to shine out darkness then there would be no light. One cannot exist without the other.

@The Taios heh. I give it two minutes until a pie goes in nightmare moon's face.


Most of this makes an overwhelming bit of sense to me, however something is missing...how did nightmare moon know who the pony who had changed the spelled was? After all, in her point of view she could've looked for another twilight for or even thought it was her did it. Twilight does say it was someone else who changed it though.  Nightmare moon may think she's lieing or something else entirely. She could've also posibly time traveled with her own magic. I do doubt she wouldn't be aware and the possiblity of not coming back to her own timeline a (if i recall corectly) twilight states that the pony(starlight) who messed with the spell created alterante time lines. That's all i got- great theory though. i like your vid alot btw!

@redholm It would be quite entertaining! Yes, it really should.

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ Maybe. It could be interesting to watch. But it would make the Time travel a lot harder. Which it should be :P

@redholm I see your point, I do not know what substitute either. However she has access to many powerful and magically places. Also may i bring up the fact the Ever-free forest is not being it's normal crazy. As shown she deals with it all. Who's to say she could do it herself. Whether easy or hard I believe it could be done. (Those archives/libaries also probably hold the research needed to make more spellls, aside from starswirl's)

@the unnamed animator I͟n͟a͟c͟t͟i͟v͟e͟ Maybe. But with the themes of Harmony and that Starlight did it on the table itself. I would think it must have something to do with it. Although it is true that if Nightmare Moon knows what is needed she might be able to make a substitute. But I don't know how she would find that out.

@redholm Oh, you're so right! since twilight never got the table how would she do it? However I suggest something else. I don't believe the table is required. What if instead it was used because the target was twilight herself. Maybe it just requires something with a good amount of magic or doesn't need one at all.

The thing that I feel pokes the biggest hole in this. To make this spell work. The Table is needed. Which Nightmare moon can never. It is implied it is needed to make the spell work the way it does. Because it's not just a table. It's the Elements of Harmony in Table form.

@Undertaker9711 Yes however there are many differences between those two spells. It also would've taken quite some time. Nightmaremoon is is not one who lies time wait. This was shown when she asks twilight to take her to the spell. (It could be said that it was just because she needed to see the spell and/or i'd be a natural reaction)

a powerful mare who can erase cutie marks? id say a good candidate to rewrite a time travel spell

@Optimus prime polska translation from the YouTube translation to French.

When Twilight talked to Rarity, she heard Twilight.

She being Nightmare Moon.


I think that maybe when Starlight convinced the bullys to stop because "they can all be equal" could lead to a timeline where she rules. It would just be so interesting to see a Starlight Glimmer timeline, and if it started from that point the mane 6 wouldn't have a choice but to accept it and be equal aswell.

What if that final "present", the barren waste land that Twilight dragged her back to, what if THAT was the "Evil Starlight Glimmer's future"?  Think about it, everybody has an 'equal' cutie mark... including all of the Pegasi, and the Princesses, meaning nobody has the innate magic to maintain the balance of nature, which seems to be extremely dependent upon Pony participation.  Sun and moon moving at will through the sky, uncontrolled weather, and all gardeners and farmers are as 'equal' in ability as all of the non-gardeners and non-farmers.<br>Just saying...

What if that final "present", the barren waste land that Twilight dragged her back to, what if THAT was the "Evil Starlight Glimmer's future"?  Think about it, everybody has an 'equal' cutie mark... including all of the Pegasi, and the Princesses, meaning nobody has the innate magic to maintain the balance of nature, which seems to be extremely dependent upon Pony participation.  Sun and moon moving at will through the sky, uncontrolled weather, and all gardeners and farmers are as 'equal' in ability as all of the non-gardeners and non-farmers.
Just saying...


Interesting theory as always, though after thinking about this for a bit, I'd come as far to say that Nightmare Moon couldn't go back to destroy the elements of harmony...
Before Nightmare Moon, Celestia and Luna had to defeat Discord and if a future Nightmare Moon went to the past to destroy the elements, she would come back to a world ruled by Discord...

Anyway that's just my opinion and I'd appreciate it if y'all took a look into it... Maybe there are some flaws I didn't think of. Have a great day

Idk, Nightmare Moon could take on discord in the future. Maybe.

@Luka Vranes That does make sense. If she just takes them with her, they'll be removed from that timeline

@Undertaker9711 But then the elements would find new wearers like they did when Twilight saw them being broken for the first time. She can't really destroy them, but keep them from being discovered... At least that's my theory. I'm waiting for your response...

Thats why Sawtooth didnt suggest she go that far back. If she went back to about the time she originally became Nightmare Moon, she could destroy the Elements to stop her sister from ever banishing her to the moon


Sweet Twilight, this is brilliant. That all said, I'm once again mentioning the impact of day/night, seasons and weather: under an eternal right, can the crops, trees, etc survive? It's complicated since these elements of ecosystem aren't working the same way as in our world. The day/night and seasons shifts are caused by the position of earth compared to the sun...

Also if jailed Starlight started gaining influence and ruling after Nightmare Moon's departure, I wouldn't be surprised if she worked on a way to get the sun back and move the sun and moon, without standing out since she's talking about equality.

Also my mind wandered around and imagined Starlight taking Celestia's cutie mark and putting it on her butt, which is kind of like a cutie pox??? Remember the cutie pox, Apple Bloom having several cutie marks...


Thx for this theory. I like, that you’ve focused on nightmare moon, cause there’s more mysteries. In season 1 ep. 1 when Twilight writes to Celestia, the Hourglass goes through the unicorn sculpture and shows… Nightmare moon… I don’t know ,what it means, but there’s a lot of possibilities.


Thank you for still making mlp content, I'm glad this fandom won't die out


Hey, Sawtooth, what happened to original starlight in these timelines. She always seemed to stay in the past so there must be an old starlight along side a version that was born in the new timeline.

How would two Starlights fair against Nightmare Moon? The older one would be stronger than when she fought twilight, because she has had even more time to study. Plus the younger would also be stronger than the normal timeline, because the older her could teach her from a young age.

Who knows how strong the sovereign nation of "our town" is now.

@rolay 7

Interesting points.
I was just saying that I think Starlight might rename the area she’s take over to “Our Nation.” The town she had control over was just one town, so she would call it just “Our Town,” but I think when there’s multiple towns she controls, she’d rename it “Our State” and when she controls multiple states, she’d call it “Our Nation.”
But I suppose if she wanted, she could just leave the name as “Our Town” for sake of clarity.

@Joy Skaggs <br>I count "our town" as the name of the country. In real life, the worlds' smallest country is actually called "Vatican city" city is part of the name and it is not that much larger than "our town". It is less than square.2 miles for the entire country or just 109 acres.

@Joy Skaggs
I count "our town" as the name of the country. In real life, the worlds' smallest country is actually called "Vatican city" city is part of the name and it is not that much larger than "our town". It is less than square.2 miles for the entire country or just 109 acres.

Yeah, I also thought about that too, Just Because Starlight is always in the past doesnt mean she didnt alter the timeline, She said that whenever someone uses her spell, She gets traveled along with it, So theres a pretty high chance that there are multiple Starlights that met Twilight in the Timelines, Also a hidden timeline where Starlight accomplishes her work without the first interference by Twilight


The timeline obsession continues, I still love it. Thanks for yet another amazing video sawtooth


I love the awkward conversation the cult ponies were having in the middle of nowhere. I also have an Idea for the next video, what happened to discord while the magic in equestrian disappeared?

Honestly, there is a change it disappeared.


When sawtooth uploads but you’re reading a really good book, some sacrifices are made. Time for the video woop woop

@Isbah loves dinos I think he's done uploading.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I didn’t ask a question

@Isbah loves dinos possibly but that's a lame question.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I think you replied to the wrong comment :)

@Sawtooth Waves do you love your king thorax and your new queen?

Didn't chrysalis do the same thing as nightmare moon and sombra?

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 because I want to watch the video and see what it’s about more than the really good book lol

@EnderCake1174 at first i thought you were correcting me and i went "enjoy <b>you are</b> book???"

@EnderCake1174 at first i thought you were correcting me and i went "enjoy *you are* book???"


I don't think Starlight would alter it properly. She didn't have a reason to do so. She is dumb but not that dumb. She would know that Nightmare Moon would imprison her- but the issue is, we know Nightmare Moon is super willing to kill.


Interesting theory! Just wanna know, in your older videos you mentioned that Luna couldn't walk in dreams before the six defeated her. So I think she must've found another way to find the one who altered the spell


I like he always talk about those things which the writer didn't think


You're so talented and you always make me very happy! Maybe you should make a video on what the other ponies that we didn't see are doing on each timeline (like, we don't get to see Twilight in any of them, we don't get to see Pinkie in the Nightmare Moon timeline or Rainbow Dash in the Chrysalis timeline or Cadence and Shining in any of them, etc.). It's an interesting thought


It's fun to imagine and theorize about all these possibilities, but I'm glad the show itself didn't go down that rabbit hole. I don't think I would have been able to keep up.


I had never thought that Nightmare Moon had herself wanted to time travel.

I had alway's thought that she had wanted the time travel spell but altered so that way it no longer did time travel but would open a door/portal into essentially time itself.

Since she couldn't destroy the Element's she would then toss the all of the Element's through and close the door/portal

She'd then destroy the spell and then kill the one who altered the spell.

With that done the Element's would be lost to time with less then 1% of ever being recoverd.


In our timeline, Nightmare Moon got released by the stars or something. So... Would Celestia get released eventfully too? Would a cult form to help Celestia beat Nightmare Moon?


That's right. Generations don't die💀. They're magically🌌 as immortal as gods that I believe in


"I will insure that the elements of harmony are never found"<br>She doesn't just go back and destroy them while Celestia has them. She makes sure no one finds them. Not even herself and Celestia when they battle Discord...

"I will insure that the elements of harmony are never found"
She doesn't just go back and destroy them while Celestia has them. She makes sure no one finds them. Not even herself and Celestia when they battle Discord...


Starlight Glimmer would definitely double cross Nightmare Moon. She would pull an Aku, altering the spell so that Nightmare Moon would be trapped in the future where Starlight herself, in Nightmare Moon's absence, rose to power to become the supreme leader of Ponies Republic of Equestria or something.


Time travel is always an interesting thing, I wish it existed in real life too...

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 the villains will always win.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 no and there's no way the mane 6 will save us.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>Don't worry. In the Good😇 Time⏰ Line, Goodness😇 always triumphs😤 over Evil💀

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
Don't worry. In the Good😇 Time⏰ Line, Goodness😇 always triumphs😤 over Evil💀

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 naughty and nasty.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 yes and there's no way the mane 6 will be there.

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>Oh😯, no😧! That's naughty 😱

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
Oh😯, no😧! That's naughty 😱

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 it means the kill others for their own selfish gain and in slave with to do their dirty work.🐈🐇🐕

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 not always in the alternative time lines the evils defeated the goods.🐶🐱🐰

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 <br>Don't worry. Every hero🦸♀ always triumphs😤 over Evil💀

@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴
Don't worry. Every hero🦸♀ always triumphs😤 over Evil💀

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 what will the heroes going to do?

@PALICORN HQ very unfortunate appetite, I will definitely tell her off...

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 don't tell me to shut up, you're not my dad!, OK?

@Afshan Sabri when did I fight she started it

@Afshan Sabri <br>SILENCE😫! Giving everybody a Fight💪 of Arguments makes me VERY ANGRY😡! Understand😠? Good

@Afshan Sabri
SILENCE😫! Giving everybody a Fight💪 of Arguments makes me VERY ANGRY😡! Understand😠? Good

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 please stop fighting

@• Bethany • (the french one lol) <br>I know what Emojis mean

@• Bethany • (the french one lol)
I know what Emojis mean

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 ngl it's kinda hard to read you when you use so many emojis lol

@PALICORN HQ <br>Hey😠! I'm NOT killed this kind of time⏰ 😡, you Banana🍌 Brain🧠 😤

@PALICORN HQ
Hey😠! I'm NOT killed this kind of time⏰ 😡, you Banana🍌 Brain🧠 😤

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 like your going to kill your young version of yourself and you never existed

@• Bethany • (the french one lol) <br>I hate👿 it when the Past(years🗓 ago), the Present🎁(today📆), and the Future(years🗓 later) are destroyed💔 😪

@• Bethany • (the french one lol)
I hate👿 it when the Past(years🗓 ago), the Present🎁(today📆), and the Future(years🗓 later) are destroyed💔 😪

@Sawtooth Waves If it does, then I'm going to need instructions in order to use it...

@PALICORN HQ <br>"Disastrous"🤨? What's that🤨?

@PALICORN HQ
"Disastrous"🤨? What's that🤨?

@Sawtooth Waves also<br>If I become new writer of mlp g6 I will make it more harder for you to find the facts

@Sawtooth Waves also
If I become new writer of mlp g6 I will make it more harder for you to find the facts

Yep, it does<br>I didn't really understand what people were saying about that but it was something about space and going into the future couple seconds or something

Yep, it does
I didn't really understand what people were saying about that but it was something about space and going into the future couple seconds or something

@Sawtooth Waves no it will be disastrous


The fact that he still makes videos is amazing

ikr it's been like, 8 and a half years 0____o


I would like to think that after altering the spell and destroying the elements, Nightmare Moon returned to her timeline. It would be altered, not a new timeline.

Things in the would happen differently, but it would still be Nightmare Moon’s home timeline.

(that’s how time travel works in my stories, and it’s less messy and keeps things together)


One of the possibilities that came to me when I first watched this particular episode was that when Twilight used the spell to escape the Nightmare Moon timeline, Nightmare Moon could have attempted to interfere and end up going back with Twilight. You have Starlight Glimmer come face to face with Nightmare Moon to make her realize that she had royally screwed up rather than seeing the world being destroyed by her actions, and then they have to deal with Nightmare Moon in a timeline that already has a Luna.


Please don't let Nightmare Moon become the pony version of the Reverse Flash.

I mean starlight willing to fight twilight forever seems like the most reverse flash thing ever


I really like how twilight said that every dimension is worse than the last one, and the last one we see before a literal dead planet is flim and flams.


You will probably not see this but, you inspire me! You are so kind and always dig deep into the series!<br>Your my idle!

You will probably not see this but, you inspire me! You are so kind and always dig deep into the series!
Your my idle!

Also sawtooth, I love how your supporting Ukraine with your pfp! <br>Hopefully they recover from the attack!

Also sawtooth, I love how your supporting Ukraine with your pfp!
Hopefully they recover from the attack!


"timelines may have their own timeline splits" "Does the insanity end?!" YOU HAVE NO IDEA

Hi, I'd like to talk again about my comment on the video about the forgotten timeline, the original timeline going on without the time travelers.
I wondered, if the travelers ended up in a timeline that isn't theirs, tho identical, where are their alter egos from this timeline?
And then I realized they traveled in time too.
That means from here, the timesplit turned into a timeloop that creates timesplits. Because these Starlight, Twilight and Spike from this new timeline that is identical to the original but isn't, also created a Chrysalis timeline, a Nightmare Moon timeline, a Discord timeline (etc) and a timeline that is identical to theirs but isn't. And in this timeline too their alter egos traveled in time and created these timelines...
So from here there's an infinity of timelines created, of each outcome we saw in the series. But there still is only one original timeline missing the time travelers... And then I was dizzy thinking about it.

But more recently I thought of a solution to abort this chaos.
I think likely that great minds and sorcerers as Starlight, Twilight, Starswirl and Sunburst would come to talk about such a big thing and spot the problem, and organize an expedition through the timelines to do so the time travelers go back to their own timeline after the final travel. Their travel would then apply in a timeloop where the otherwise abandoned timeline was actually never abandoned, and....
Nevermind, I thought it more while writing and I see it actually doesn't solve the infinite loop of splits.
But hey, it's a good start!
OR ELSE
The expedition could do so the last travel actually leads to the original timeline, to create a loop where the travelers were actually always here at the rainboom in the original timeline, and the new timeline that is identical but is a separate one is not created, so there is no other timeline where Starlight, Twilight and Spike traveled in time.
There, time travel mess solved! I really hope you see this very too long comment, Sawtooth.

Thanks for reading, and sorry about mistakes, English is not my native language and we talk about seriously complex things here...


Finding Starlight in a series of equal dreams would work, assuming that these ponies still dreamed. Starlight's spell could eventually erase the dreams, just having the ponies sleep a dreamless sleep. Or after so much monotony the brain does not have to dream to process the day. On the other side of the scale, while their outward personalities are locked, they may still dream like any other pony; the one time they are free to be themselves. But you are hoping that the repeated propaganda messages permeate their dreams, in which if you step in there you will constantly hear the repeated mantra, over and over and over.

Also, Starlight is a smart one, she could use the spell against Nightmare Moon, or at the very least for her own gain (cutiemarkless society).


I just like thinking that in the Nightmare Moon timeline there would be an alternate route where all of the villains had to make an alliance to take down Nightmare Moon forcing them into the roles of the mane six, I mean the villains are actually capable of becoming friends and could somehow fill the slots for the elements of harmony just not in the ways the mane six did.

(I thought about this on coffee please forgive me-)


I just thought of something... what if changelings turn into ladybugs in the human world? Around a year ago you made a video talking about how the portal works. You were also trying to figure out what other creatures would turn into after heading into the human world and it got me thinking... it has happened twice now (once with Queen Chrysalis and another with Ocellus) that after a changeling has transformed into a pony, they got ladybug cutie marks. I mean it's a possibility that my theory is true right?? If you're interested maybe make a video on this? :D


Two possible problems with this. First of all, we have a pretty good idea how long Starlight has been doing her village thing, because it was Maud that told her about the rock she put all the cutie marks in, and I think it was implied to be after the start of the show, specifically after Maud's first appearance, although I'm going to have to watch it again so it might go either way. Secondly, I don't think Starlight's time travel spell works without the Cutie Map, as it appeared in each altered timeline, so without that it may not be possible to time travel like that.


Good theory! Really shows how "multiverses" can really just be a bunch of timelines. Nice Ukranian profile picture btw!


I challenge you to count every time Sawtooth Waves said "timeline" in this video


So if we follow by the timeline altering concept of this, Twilight only saw the altered timelines because she activated the spell and was sucked into the past, hence sent her to the respective futures, including creating the new timeline where she just disappears and left everyone behind. Imagine if they're in their original timeline, they just watch Starlight goes into time travelling, they are still in the timeline where the rainboom has never been stopped. Their lives just goes on like every other day just without the existence of Starlight


I would love to see Nightmare moon Do this plan, I was like "yes" 🌙


Now this is the multiverse of madness I love learning about- Wonderful theories and thought-bits on alternate timelines.


I just love how the multiverse theory just keeps getting bigger and bigger. It’s great❤


Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^<br>I wonder if alt Starlight and Nightmare Moon would use the Tree of Harmony to boost the time travel spell. The map wouldn't exist in the NM-verse, so that's out of the equation. We also don't know if the Elements were ever returned to the Tree or if Nightmare Moon took them (except for Magic since that one needed to be summoned). The plunderseeds would've complicated things as well if they'd become active.

Thanks for sharing another interesting video with us, Sawtooth! ^_^
I wonder if alt Starlight and Nightmare Moon would use the Tree of Harmony to boost the time travel spell. The map wouldn't exist in the NM-verse, so that's out of the equation. We also don't know if the Elements were ever returned to the Tree or if Nightmare Moon took them (except for Magic since that one needed to be summoned). The plunderseeds would've complicated things as well if they'd become active.


It’s said in the book that luna and Celestia didn’t get there cutie marks until after the cornation starswirl helped them learn new spells because starswirl could travel back in time celestia and Luna could’ve learned this too


I love Nightmare Moon she’s so amazing. I really enjoy these videos. Keep up the good work SawTooth Waves. Have a wonderful day.


Could you discuss the fact that Cozy Glow’s magic erasing didn’t remove cutie marks? Like, that is so weird!


I love your new PFP Sawtooth! This video was really good and I can't wait to see what you do next! If you're open to suggestions, maybe do a video on how ponies have survived in G5? Without Earth Pony magic, food wouldn't grow and the ponies would have died out. What do you think? Keep up the good work! :D

@ChristinewhoYT The sun and moon are not the issue here. In "Bridle Gossip", it is said that plants grow by themselves in the Everfree forest, but the sun still rises and sets there. This doesn't seem to be the case outside of Everfree. In Ponyville and any part of Equestria that is not part of the forest, plants require Earth Pony magic to grow.

Actually the sun and moon seems to move on their own now


I Just discovered this channel not too long ago and im lovin the content! Keep the good work Sawtooth! 👍👍


This is so cool! I love the possibilities of the multiverse and your vids! Awesome job :D


I've never been one who liked multi-verse time-travel theories. The questions posed here are part of the reason. It indicates that you essentially "create" a new universe with each jump through time.

I'd be less opposed to a "die until you win" scenario, wherein every timeline that results in more time travel is essentially doomed, a temporary temporal construct that ceases to exist once time-travel happens to alter the past. This conserves energy at least and, in theory, works in like with the concept of the immortal soul. The people are the same, but the stage and play they are a part of is different.


Now I'm imagining what would have happened if Nightmare Moon had followed Twilight through the spell into Cloudsdale. Starlight would definitely would be surprised at the very least. Either way, that would lead to a lot of shenanigans.


If she did this, should would also have to deal with all the timelines where another villain rules due to the elements of harmony not being there; either leading her to having a change of heart about her sister, or to becoming a hero in the hearts of any who questioned her - as she would undoubtedly tell her kingdom what lengths she went through to rule


I like the idea of Nightmare moon returning to the present… and another nightmare moon. Do you think they would fight?


its so crazy you’re still making videos . i was in elementary school when i started watching you and now im in high school , i know you’ll always be my favorite mlp youtuber :)


Sawthooth Have you noticed that Snails can levitate himself with magic.
So it isnt something that only great unicorns can do it.
🧐🧐

unironically, snails is a great unicorn 😳


Starlight could also write the new spell with a small tweak made to it, rather than send her to the point of time she needs it would send her to the end of time.


They don't post often, but when they do it's always a blessing.

It's amazing. These theories are so crazy they just are amazing- I love them XD


The problem I see with this theory is the fact that Starlight's remaster of Starswirl's spell required the Cutie Map, which would not exist in this timeline because the castle would not, as Twilight would never use the chest to defeat Tirek.


I have a time travel question for you that just came to me…what impact if any would these alternate timelines have on the six pillars? I mean if everything exists in them as it does in ours that means they are still in limbo with the darkness that consumed Stygian and the artifacts that were used to bring them back surely still exist as well

I am also curious how Flim and Flam came to power and what or who brought about that final apocalypse that finally converted Starlight


Ohhh!!
I think maybe somehow a new alicorn is created in the timeline that nightmare moon left behind. Assuming that princess cadence is still alive she would probably teach the new alicorn like celestia did for twilight. But if not then I think the new alicorn may be seen as a threat because they would be so similar to nightmare moon. I can guess that this “new alicorn” would have a power similar to celestia and Luna’s, this way people would be less scared and more inclined to follow the new alicorn.
I think it’s a long shot but I like wondering what could’ve happened


Keep it up! I remember finding ur channel long ago, I don’t regret it ✨


I haven’t watched it yet but I can’t wait to! Love ur vids :))))


6:37 I actually like to believe we did see what happened in a timeline where Starlight got her way, I like to the think the final timeline we saw in the time travel episode was a reality where she took control, and made everyone "equal", as shown in the episode where she takes everyone's cutiemark, it shows that these ponies can't properly do their special talent (as Sugerbelle, a great baker, has her food reduced to disgusting muffins), so if everypony lost their special talent, jobs would become empty, food would very likely go sparse, land would most likely become dead, and I bet after a while under those circumstances, all that resulted in a dead Equestria...


This makes so much sense! I totally agree that nightmare would do something like this ❤


I think we all know the result is ultimately an epic teamup of all the various Doctor Whooveses as they unravel all the wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.


I think that the last, wasteland timeline, was Starlight's success. Without the special talents of ponies, the economy and environment would fall apart.


What do you think about the mystery timeline that Starlight made? Was it all villains one by one? Was it the Everfree Forest, which seeds Discord planted? Was it Starlights success? Was it something else? If it was one of them, how would the others look like? I would love a video about that in the future.


Can we just imagine if Starlight saw herself in this timeline...

Starlight: oh...I should go further to the past and probably make sure Luna was never born...


A pretty good video indeed, but I think Nightmare Moon would just have to deal with all those challenges by herself, which could cause great pauses in her "time travelling magic project".


My favourite villain starswirl had a time travel spell when teaching luna and celestia when they were younger they noticed how time travel made starswirl older if luna did this she would’ve been older or other stuff happening


Watching this video, I think I know what villain created the last timeline. Starlight. If she had succeeded and spread her cult all over equestria, then nopony could have their talents. Every pony would have been powerless to stop her. Plus, without their talents, pegasi couldn’t tend to the weather and earth ponies couldn’t tend to the soil or crops.


This channel is amazing and I love the content keep up the good work


I'm not even sure she'd need to scour the dreamscape. Twilight namedropped Starlight to Rarity when NMM was listening

But she probably doesn’t know who Starlight is, and has to find a pony to the name


It seems weird to me that the mane 6 had such different personalities in the other timelines since they did still have their same cutie marks this the same destiny.


An alternative universe that is a total grimdark? Sounds like an easy trope that a new generation can use.


Hey Sawtooth! I have a little sort of theory kind of you know how the the 2 sisters have wavy hair and so does mist Maine! well when the princess's give there magic to twilight there mains stop flowing (the end of season 4) So there is a definite reason to why they have flowing mains but i think its a combo of magic power ,connection to your destiny/ elements and a display of beauty but only all three combined creates a flowing Maine twilight doesn't have enough magic power and cadence no connection to the elements sort of similar to the way alicorn's come to be! just a little theory...…..


So you remember that one dream good Starlight had? The one with evil Celestia and Nightmare Moon? What if after Celestia got freed in some way, that evil version of her like in the dream happened? Like season 1 all over again.


I can’t with how amazing all your theories are


I think it would make a lot of sense if the wasteland we saw was the timeline where starlight's succeeded


Since she’s starlight, I think she would use the opportunity to trick Nightmare Moon into giving her the spell and using it to turn into some strange alternate reality where everyone is equal and it might even turn into the desolate reality we see at the end.


One problem is that the time line she returns to would probably have another nightmare moon. Because when Starlight first changed the past with Twilight there we saw what would have happened to Twilight's exam to get into Celestia's school. This also happened when Starlight showed Twilight her past, so maybe in each present there is another version of the pony that returned from the altered past.


I think a thing that was forgotten about when making this theory was the rather massive Table brought with the Time spell. First question there. Why did the table come with? What I think is it's a needed component to go back in time long enough to change the past in any meaningful way like what she did. It's what is used to find friendship trouble across basically the entire world after all.

And if not. Why did the table come with? Is it not a bit strange how when everything else needed to be pulled in like Twilight the table that is built into the castle came with to? The table is also seen to still be online and working in these new worlds so it's not just an big lump of Crystal that came with but still the Elements of Harmony in table form.


If Twilight had never mentioned the cult leader by name or even description in relation to the modified time travel spell, I can see no reason for Nightmare Moon to believe that Starlight would have any ability to modify said spell according to her wishes. Even if she did locate the cult through dreams as you posit, it is a ridiculous leap in logic to go from "this pony can magically remove cutie marks" to "this pony can fundamentally alter the nature of a time travel spell that she had never known existed before this point". This especially, considering that the most important artifact that allowed her to make these modifications, the cutie map, never existed naturally in the timeline in question.


I have another theory concerning starlight<br>I noticed a few alicorns and unicorns have very similar names, Twilight sparkle, Starlight Glimmer and Sunset Shimmer. Their names all have something to do with a time of day and a kind of shine. I thought it might be something to do with interest and involvement with time travel and alternate timelines and universes. So Hasbro showed their similarities through their names :)

I have another theory concerning starlight
I noticed a few alicorns and unicorns have very similar names, Twilight sparkle, Starlight Glimmer and Sunset Shimmer. Their names all have something to do with a time of day and a kind of shine. I thought it might be something to do with interest and involvement with time travel and alternate timelines and universes. So Hasbro showed their similarities through their names :)


We all thought Wanda broke the multiverse. But now we know it was actually Starlight.


Another theory:<br>Like you said, the elements of harmony are a spark of friendship. So it's possible that even in her time-line someone could find it. Well, by saying "I'll make sure the elements are never found" maybe she plans on using time travel in case someone's friendship create the elements and so she can reset the event and make sure they (whoever they are) don't become friends!

Another theory:
Like you said, the elements of harmony are a spark of friendship. So it's possible that even in her time-line someone could find it. Well, by saying "I'll make sure the elements are never found" maybe she plans on using time travel in case someone's friendship create the elements and so she can reset the event and make sure they (whoever they are) don't become friends!


this is a very nice concept there are so many possibilities and i feel like i just watched a whole movie


Starlight already used her magic on the princesses cutie marks before, who's to say she wouldn't have removed Nightmare Moon's rather than making the spell for her? Equalizing her would strip her of the dark moon magic she had, turning her back into Princess Luna. Evil Starlight could have defeated Nightmare Moon all on her own, and that timeline would have to deal with a Princess Starlight, who would equalize all her subjects. She wouldn't have to wait for Nightmare Moon to leave to take her cult global. Luna would be so remorseful for what she'd done as Nightmare Moon, that she would bend to Starlight's rule. We've seen how Luna would punish herself for her actions as Nightmare Moon before, like when she created a monster to haunt her dreams every night. She would be weak enough at that point, that she would see anything Starlight does as the good thing, because she was evil and Starlight had defeated her and good always conquers evil, right? Luna would just let Starlight rule, especially since without her Cutie Mark magic, she probably couldn't release Celestia from the Moon anymore. Luna wouldn't think she deserved to be in charge, and would literally hand over the kingdom to Starlight without any fight.


I think we are forgeting on crucial thing: the map. The spell is tied to the map. No map, no spell, no map in Nightmare Moon's realm, no need to force Starlight. Yeah Starlight could have altered the spell, but that may not have been possible. Besides, Starlight wouldn't have bowed down to Nightmare and  Nightmare couldn't threaten to kill her without losing the possibility of time travel, so all in all I think it is unlikely.


My 2 favorite characters are Luna/Nightmare Moon and Starlight Glimmer because they both have such interesting pasts.


I wish the series still continued gen 4 was soooo goood!


I was just listening to 'in our town' and a question popped up in my mind, because of an OC of mine.

Saying, before Twilight and the others went to the village. What would Starlight do if a pony would be born there? Or come there before getting a cutie mark? You can't take something that isn't there yet, can you? Or would she just take it, when they get a cutie mark? And for the born ones, do they get born with the Equality mark as cutie mark?


I have another theory.<br>It was stated that the Pony of Shadows is the same darkness that turned Luna into Nightmare Moon. Remember in the episode "Castle Mane-ia", they talk about the Pony of Shadows, and it's said that the Pony of Shadows is the lingering power of Nightmare Moon that dwells in the old castle. But going by what we learn of the Pony of Shadows later, the Pony of Shadows came around before Nightmare Moon, meaning that Luna was infected by the Pony of Shadows's lingering power, not the other way around. Perhaps creating Nightmare Moon was the Pony of Shadows's attempt to create an ally to free him from limbo, or maybe he was seeking his queen through her (imagine them as an evil power couple). Perhaps Nightmare Moon wanted the time travel spell to actually so she could prevent the Pony of Shadows's imprisonment, enabling them to rule side by side.

I have another theory.
It was stated that the Pony of Shadows is the same darkness that turned Luna into Nightmare Moon. Remember in the episode "Castle Mane-ia", they talk about the Pony of Shadows, and it's said that the Pony of Shadows is the lingering power of Nightmare Moon that dwells in the old castle. But going by what we learn of the Pony of Shadows later, the Pony of Shadows came around before Nightmare Moon, meaning that Luna was infected by the Pony of Shadows's lingering power, not the other way around. Perhaps creating Nightmare Moon was the Pony of Shadows's attempt to create an ally to free him from limbo, or maybe he was seeking his queen through her (imagine them as an evil power couple). Perhaps Nightmare Moon wanted the time travel spell to actually so she could prevent the Pony of Shadows's imprisonment, enabling them to rule side by side.


hey! i was kinda wondering if the book that closed at the end of mlp was actually the book that sunny’s dad was researching and that’s how the G5 came to be so doesn’t that mean sunny’s dad was a really important part of G5?


The elements of harmony are very strong artifacts, I think destroying them would have unforeseen consequences for the timeline that Nightmare Moon returned to, in the exact same way as when Starlight stopped the rainboom. Still a really fun  theory tho


I'm very interested in what was the "desert" timeline, that one when twilight shows Starlight future without her friends, who created it, what did it?


"Do you notice a tint?" <br>"Yeah- Yeah! Like a tint.."

"Do you notice a tint?"
"Yeah- Yeah! Like a tint.."


I can easily see Starlight converting a prison population into her cult. The very first thing you can point out is that without cutiemarks, the royal sisters wouldn't even have the power to utterly dominate the population. Sure one was good, but look at how quickly she lost, do you really want Equestria's happiness to be determined by the most powerful beings staying good? Luna didn't, and her sister's kindness made it so she could come back as a threat. If everyone was truly equal however...


See, this is why time travel is something no one should ever make attempts at whatsoever. Any small change can shatter time into billions of fragments; its best we keep moving forward on our timeline as we should.


It would be cool to see Sunny fight Starlight the conqueror.


I will be honest, I think you got her plan a little wrong: the elements of harmony needed to be found or else Discord would have never been defeated, erasing her rise to power. If anything, I think she merely intends to send the elements to another point in time to prevent them from being found.


Hello sawtooth I loved the video it was a little hectic to understand but i did later on. But i also came to ask a question for a new video, after watching you're MLP: A new generation videos I asked myself how do new generation ponies get there cutie marks if there's was no magic. I guess it can be something natural that happens to ponies as they grow Iike are voice and how it changes, so ponies as they find there special skill or talent soon or later it will for on there flanks but with no magical moment like we see with the ponies in the past. If you see this comment Sawtooth, i hope you can make a video on it soon. Brohoof!


I'm honestly kinda curious if that timeline with Equestria being a desert wasteland was Starlight's timeline since we don't know who the villainous ruler for that timeline was.


There are more sets of elements in the comics, I'd expect her to secure her reign in another way rather than destroying them.


It was a stormy night, and Nightmare Moon sat on her throne, viewing everything she had done. "Ah, to come into full power and stop anyone from blocking my path, I need to get my hooves on the time travel spell." She spent day after day researching, but still no answer. All of a sudden, the sky lit up with a purplish glow, and Twilight Sparkle, ruler of Equestria No. 1 stepped infront of Moon's throne.

 "What brings you here," Snapped Moon, " coming to give me the time travel spell, perhaps? "

Twilight felt a wave of rage surround her. "Never, Nightmare! I don't know why you think someone so powerful, like you could get away with-" She paused, looking for something else to say. "What do you want to do with the spell, anyway?" She questioned.

 "Why, to destroy the elements of harmony and secure my reign, of course!" Moon answered.

 Twilight had to think fast and used the time travel spell her friend Starlight Glimmer had altered to escape.

 "Did it go well?" Questioned Glimmer, curious to see how well Twilight had done.

 " Ehhh, Uhhh, It went well. Moon didn't manage to get the spell. " She replied.

 Meanwhile, in the Equestria that Nightmare Moon ruled, the Starlight Glimmer of that universe was imprisoned and tortured into altering the time travel spell until Moon could use it.

 "How's it going, Starlight? Very well, perhaps?"

 Starlight couldn't speak, she just nodded and handed over the time travel spell.

Nightmare moon realised she could now be not just the ruler of her Equestria, but all of the alternate ones as well.

 "Thank you, Starlight! I can finally go back to before the elements were hidden and destroy them, then secure my reign and rule over the multiverse!  HAHAHAHA!"

The multiverse was now desperate to see Celestia return, they prayed and prayed, but still, she didn't come. Until one day, after 1000 years of constant praying, the sky became blinding and out of the sun came a white alicorn with hair of pink, green and blue. Everyone in Equestria were escatic. "Celestia! O great ruler, please rid Nightmare Moon, she's put the multiverse in ruins!" Said Lyra Heartstrings.

Celestia stood silent, until she spoke. "I'll do what I can" She said, in a calm and reassuring voice. She defeated athe evrsion of Nightmare Moon that caused all of this, then creating clones of herself to destroy the rest.

Pinkie Pie was a bit confused. "What are we gonna do with all these Lunas? Will it be the same deal as my clones, keep the real one and send the rest into the Mirror Pond?" She asked Celestia.

 Celestia was surprised by such a good idea. "Well, I guess we'll do that!"

With Equestria ruled by Celestia once again, the world slowly pieced itself back together, and soon enough, everything was back to normal.

THE END.

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When Starlight destroyed Chrysalis' lair, and when all the other changelings reformed, when Chrysalis hisses, Thorax is shown to use magic, or atleast ignite it. Thorax's horns were glowing, in conclusion: Cozy glow is wrong.


You seriously could've been a writer for the show.


The insanity never ends. That's why theories about timelines are so fun!


I love the scene where you act out starlights village. That is the funniest thing ever!!!!! LOL!!! :D


I feel like Ive thought of an idea if Nightmare Moon did leave and go to use the spell. If she did starlight would still be in prision, but knowing how good she is with magic her time spent in there could let her think of a spell to get out of prision. Once that was done I feel like she would send her time studying changlings hoping to make a spell to make her transform into Nightmare Moon and rule over Equestria. This probbaly wouldn't happen but I wanted to say anyway.


Everyone: You can't make infinite content<br>Sawthoot: hold my multiverse

Everyone: You can't make infinite content
Sawthoot: hold my multiverse


honestly with the possibilities of alternative timeline creating more timelines with time travel,  its possible any alternative universe can possibly happen anything from fallout Equestria, portal ponies, the whole sweety bot thing, or any number of fan parodies I can't think of right now and more.


Another good theory is maybe after nightmare moon destroyed the elements in her new timeline she wasnt even able to rule because maybe she did it before discord was turned to stone, so she probably just ended up getting overthown by him


theres an error in the video that i think needs to be noticed. at 5:06 starlights pose does not look realistic. i feel this really changes a lot in the video and is very important.


Hey sawtooth can your next theory be about how pony genetics work!


thank you for posting more every month i rlly appreciate it 🤍🤍🤍🤍


Well, i actually think that due to lack of elements N. Moon of the past raised to power, and either killed Celestia or turned her to Daybreaker.
 1). Since there is no elements and no Celestia, our Twilight would probably never meet her friends, since there is no Day festival etc. Everything stay like in N.Moon timeline until...
2). Everything goes on as it should. Well, except without night. But that's another story. Everything stays like in our timeline until...

Until discord is fled out of stone. Well, you see, the only way discord could be stopped was using emeralds of Harmony, since there is no Harmony, chaos rises to it's full potential.


At 3:59
According to sawtooth’s previous theories she couldn’t scour the dream world because she couldn’t become nightmare moon with the dreamworld


What is the difference between a queen and a empress. Because shouldn’t nightmare moon be a queen not a empress because when she was Luna she was known as princess Luna so when she is nightmare moon shouldn’t she be known as the queen of the night not  the empress of the night 🤔.


Could you make a video about what would've happened if Snowfall Frost succeeded with erasing Hearthswarming Eve? I know we got told what would've happened, but what if there was more to that story?


i keep bumping into your channel time after time - because of all the comments you leave. i know you're a sevish fan and into the whole stuff with stephen wiegel etc.


I have made a comment like this in another video anyways

I don't consider her as a villain because I saw a reddit and basically they described that Nightmare Moon didn't just took over equestria but simply just replaced Celestia and basically got rid off day and night cycle and just replaced with eternal night and not even that she could be a way better ruler then Celestia because she might have tooken care of the present villans like Chrysalis and her hive and trek but for Discord not sure of him but I think she might have casted a spell on him to keep him in his stone form for longer and she also might have taken care of sombra on her own as we know who powerful she is (even then Celestia) she is able to make her own army and won't allow anyone to get in close contact otherwise she will zap them with her thunder ability not even that none of the pony seem to be afraid of her at all like you can see it and I don't think no pony will go hungry because Luna might have find a way to fix that problem and before people start saying about daybreaker she literally just brag about herself while Nightmare Moon is focusing on her main objective and Chrysalis  revulsion I don't think Chrysalis won't win as I just described that how powerful Nightmare Moon is she is able to make her own army and being powerful then Celestia and seeing Chrysalis as Celestia I don't think Chrysalis won't even have the chance to strike just for Nightmare Moon to banish her to the moon with Celestia or maybe have no mercy and kill her at the spot

I just don't understand that why every character in mlp just overreact when they see her, I may be wrong but I know she had intentions to hurt her sister but at the end you could see how greatly she is running the kingdom


I don't think Nightmare Moon would have the option to force Starlight to realter the time-travel spell. The Elements of Harmony surely aren't the only sort of threat NMM would want to proactively destroy, and a powerful unicorn with a cult of devoted followers would certainly constitute a potential threat. Realistically, that timeline's Starlight is already dead.


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We all felt bad for the war Ukraine 🇺🇦is having ☹


5:03 - 5:08

"Once Starlight Finishes The Spell Nightmare Moon Throws Her In Prison And Finally Inacts Her Plan"

Well that's one nice way of saying what Nightmare Moon would've ACTUALLY done to Starlight once she's no longer useful to her!! ☠☠


Something i still don’t get is why the elements ofb harmony didn’t restore by the power of the mane sixes friendship with sombra like they did with nightmare moon, maybe there is more hidden beneath that difference….


Starlight is smart and hard headed do you really think she would blindly make the spell for Nightmare Moon


Even if Nightmare moon successfully destroyed the elements of harmony and continues her reign of night, her fate in due time their will reach to her and her reign will end because of her fate to always be defeated by the main six. But even though the elements do not exist in her timeline, there could always be another alternative route if Celestia is ever free from the moon or somehow another group or a resistances who disapproves with Nightmare moons reign and may go against her which could defeat Nightmare moon, but it may be possible for Nightmare moon to succeed if she destroyed the original elements of harmony which will also destroy all the other timelines that could have the elements of harmony not exist.

That is my thoughts if fate ever returns or not, but who knows.


How do you find these idea's they are incredible. One idea though, for some reason there is a strong feeling that starlight might have given nightmare moon an incorrect spell that might banish her. Possibly starlight taking the charge as the new ruler by force. Starlight is way to smart and living in a small town afar from the main effects on equestria. She has no reason to believe and fear nightmare moon. Nightmare moon just simply came to her took her. But I don't know this is so crazy!


2:38 - when he said "huh" , i thought he was making the villager sound from minecraft lol🤣🤣🤣 but starlight's cult did seem like a mincraft village


alright but as you brought up starlight glimmer altering the spell for nightmare moon i got an another timeline idea in my brain where nightmare moon takes starlight under her wing and creates some kind of dark mane 6 of sorts. perhaps we can throw in the old element of disharmony headcanons and nightmare moon has herself some folks who's darkness can combat the light of the elements of harmony- most likely winning due to the absence of that world's mane 6 being friends due to the whole lack of rainboom thing.


Please make a theory about Sunny Starscout's father. I really need another perspective about him. He is so mysterious and I'm have a feel he or his ancestors have something to do with the Twilight's theory and what happened to her. Please 🥺


You know what they say when Sawtooth uploads its a good day.


It may not have been possible for her to do so, some worlds have fail safes to prevent such madness.


The problem is, none of the alternate worlds have the cutie map, the core component of the time travel spell. It would still be locked in the six-keyed chest that doesn’t exist because the tree died without the elements being placed back by twilight and her friends.


I know Sawtooth has gone at length about alternate timelines, but what about alternate worlds or brand new ones entirely? All this multi verse talk makes me think about D&D and what would result if it were to cross with MLP.


I shall now forever refer to Starlight’s village as a cult.


I really don't think Nightmare Moon meant she would 'destroy' the elements.  With the power of time travel, why not go back and make sure they never existed in the first place?


The whole thing at 2:47 had me laughing XD
K, but Twilight never mentioned one thing: it was Starlight who altered the spell
How would Nightmare know that she could make the spell? Sure, she could find Starlight either way, but Starlight probably went out and personally studied Twilight (she did) and time travel, maybe other things as well. Without the events to push her to seek the knowledge I don't think Nightmare's Starlight would have the knowledge to alter Starswirl's spell. That or scenarios that other commenters point out could play out (The ones where Starlight would try and overthrow Nightmare or she'd search for Twilight herself) Then again, she could have this knowledge already. We only saw her as a filly, she might have studied all that stuff in her pony 'teenaged' years before the cult, WHO KNOWS!!

oooooooh i forgot that- did she mention Starlight tho?

Actually you forget the fact NM was in the shadows when she told the Rarity from that timeline.


Just a random thought -- if nightmare moon successfully made it night forever, how did they survive? Most, if not all plants need sunlight, And ponies are vegetarian. So if there isn't any food, how have they survived? And if they have food somehow, how did they do it?


I think like nightmare moon was released on the thousand year of her banishment I think celestia should get a second chance as well in attempt  to destroy her enemy.


4:08 And how could she know Starlight is the pony she need? Twilight didn't mention her once during her time with Nightmare Moon, the only pony she know was altering time was Twilight. Also, why would Nightmare Moon need her? Because Starlight was the one to modified the spell doesn't mean another unicorn or a alicorn couldn't do the same thing. Luna, and by extension her corrupted version, know as much about magic than Celestia.
It's likely the alternate timelines stopped to exist as soon as Starlight reversed her spell.


I have a couple of questions for the new gen
1. What happened to the Equestria girls world? or did they just continue on normally but with new character
2. What happened to all the villains (Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow) and maybe more that we don't know about
3. What happened to all the other creatures in equestria? Like the Hippogriffs, the yaks, the dragons, they are never seen there
4. What happened to the alicorns if only Twilight gave hers up?

Or maybe the new gen is a whole seperate universe and the mane 6 tale is really just a fairy tale to them that just so happened in another universe


Actually I'm now realising that it's possible that the destroyed reality was the merger of all the others when they time travelled to keep their rule...


Taking references from real life, chances are in the timelines where the citizens are being ruled through dictatorship, they will rebel and create a revolution themselves - no outside influences needed. There are a few possiblities:

1) They believe the dictator isn't fit to rule as they have seen Celestia's rule and much prefer that, therefore will rebel to get her back onto the throne
2) Some time has passed and the citizens are tired of being surpressed
3) The new generation of citizens decid it is finally time to fight back to stop the mistreatment

I believe in every possible timeline that has a "villain" ruling, with or without magic, everyone will try and fight back (eventually) until the "villain" is defeated, they lose hope or until to last citizen falls. Be it, Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis or even Tirek


All this talk about time travel is hurting my head. It is still cool to think about


I have a theory. Remember Day breakers origin from about a year ago? After maybe some time, Celestia would turn the world to the good side. Let's assume that Celestia knew about Luna's dream walking powers. If so, she'd be jealous that she doesn't have that power. Starlight would probably already be dead, but lets assume she's alive, old, and powerful. Ruling Equestria with the equal sign cutie marks. Just like Luna, she might kidnap Starlight and get her that power. But Starlight can't change one's destiny, leaving Celestia, angry. So, she transforms into Day breaker. She'd remove Starlight, and maybe try to remove Chrisilys. (The changeling queen, not sure how to spell her name, I'll just call her queen.) So there could be 2 timelines. 1 where day breaker rules Equestria. Some ponies may try to fight her, but without a leader, useless. But what if Queen wins? I'd think she would remove all most living creatures. She doesn't need that many for love. Only keep the weak ones and destroy the rest. Well, what about Throax? There's no way he'd try to spark rebellions. There is no way he'd pull a Sawtooth and live in Ponyville. Honestly, it just all depends. But who would win in a fight between Day breaker or Queen? I think Queen, she has all of her changelings. Who does she have? But, of course, maybe Celestia wouldn't get jealous, or maybe Starlight COULD change destines. But what do you think?


in the new movie of my little pony, at the end, I saw a alicorn that looked like luna but evil and there was a foal, maybe its hers and they where born with wings and sunny is different, the crystal was glitchy. she said she will take is rightfully hers and I think what's power, the crystal.


What if Luna used it to release herself from the past?? I know its mostly not possible but it would be another good idea to explain how she escaped


I love this video sooooo bad! But one thing in the new generation magic was gone so unless nightmare moon had a succesor that timeline is pretty much forgotten and doesn't exist- wait how would she get a succesor opening a school i guess but like what if she's just teaching science and then just an explosion wipes the entire school out? She would probably teach that and here's an example:

Night mare moon: today we're gonna learn to make an explosion and if you get a perfect one you might even take my place AND BECOME THE MOST POWERFULL THING IN THE WORLD!!!!.
Random student: *makes the explosion*
Night mare moon: bigger
Random student: *adds ingredient to make it bigger*
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: *adds more*
*Medium explosion happens and blows up desk*
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: *adds more*
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: *adds more*
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: *adds more*
Night mare moon: Bigger
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: *adds more*
Night mare moon: one more
Random student: *adds one more*
*MASSIVE EXPLOSION DESTROYS SCHOOL*

I love this video sooooo bad! But one thing in the new generation magic was gone so unless nightmare moon had a succesor that timeline is pretty much forgotten and doesn't exist- wait how would she get a succesor opening a school i guess but like what if she's just teaching science and then just an explosion wipes the entire school out? She would probably teach that and here's an example:

Night mare moon: today we're gonna learn to make an explosion and if you get a perfect one you might even take my place AND BECOME THE MOST POWERFULL THING IN THE WORLD!!!!.
Random student: **makes the explosion**
Night mare moon: bigger
Random student: **adds ingredient to make it bigger**
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: **adds more**
**Medium explosion happens and blows up desk**
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: **adds more**
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: **adds more**
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: **adds more**
Night mare moon: Bigger
Night mare moon: Bigger
Random student: **adds more**
Night mare moon: one more
Random student: **adds one more**
**MASSIVE EXPLOSION DESTROYS SCHOOL**


Oh boy, the sussy shapeshifter has gone crazy with some time travleling theories.<br>Again

Oh boy, the sussy shapeshifter has gone crazy with some time travleling theories.
Again


What if there's a timeline where Twilight became corrupted after reforming Luna?

♪ 𝕌𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕕_𝕀𝕟_ℂ𝕒𝕓𝕚𝕟_𝕀𝕀 ♪


If Double Diamond did run the cult they would’ve realized she was lying because the staff didn’t work. Also if Luna started walking in dreams because she needed something to fill the hole after she was defeated then how would Nightmare Moon find the villagers


You are creating the MLP Multiverse at this point.<br>Could become a big fan project like Underverse is for Undertale if it gets worked out, that would be so awesome.

You are creating the MLP Multiverse at this point.
Could become a big fan project like Underverse is for Undertale if it gets worked out, that would be so awesome.


It's nice to see an appreciation from somepony 💙💛


Mabye the madness finally ended in the last time line where there was only dust blowing in the wind. The timelines broke so badly or a big bad won so badly that everything was completely destroyed. Nothing left to take over, just oblivion.


Madness: what if the nightmare moon time-line is the actual one and starlight or somepony else traveled back in time to make sure the elements were found? 😂


This isn't really related to the video, but I always had this question in my head. What happened to Crystalis cozy glow and terek in the new generation movie


Where was Nightmare Moon in the Sombra Timeline. Applejack said " even with Princess Celestia leading the battle ..." So it may be that Nightmare was trying to conquer Equestria from the shadows, Celestia was fighting 2 battles { Though Applejack did not mention that} or she was banished to the moon again. She was also not present in the other timelines. Like you said she may have not been released or may have been overthrown. but then what about the timelines in which she was released.


If this theory is true i dont wanna imagine the nightmare moon timeline after that


READ This is life-changing: Discord was young at the time that the princesses were young. He played with them. When they were called to duty as princesses he got bored and lonely that his best friends were too busy for him so he decided to cause mischief there was discord getting defeated by the elements and comes to the timeline we know. Villans like discord don't attack out of the blue like that there is always a backstory.


Maybe the unknown timeline is one where Starlight succeeded. So cutie unmarking became such a trend that even the royal sisters tried it. Upon doing so the sun stays in the sky, causing a disaster which destroys everypony eventually.


I disagree. I just come back to this channel after a while, but I remember you yourself saying that Nightmare Moon's situation wouldn't have happened if she'd discovered dream walking before her corruption. In this timeline, she would have no reason to discover dream walking because she already rules. As in, no reformation, so no dream walking. That's just my opinion of course. Open to hearing from others :)


Here's an idea for a video you should try to figure out what magic could be in real life.


Sawtooth: “All of this Multiverse Madness”

Me, a huge Marvel Fan: “Now where have we heard that before?”


Would a butterfly effect make it so that Pinkie staying in the Rock farm meant that Maud didn't take that route or go to that trip that one fateful day?


“Hey I’m back you missed me?” was the best part 🤣🤣🤣


Nightmare moon would be unstoppable with time travel since she is one of the more educated villains since she knows everything luna knows

@Secretly Vriska exactly that’s how she knows everything Luna knows


If The Elements we’re destroyed, Nightmare Moon would no longer be in power. Remember she and her sister defeated and locked away all threats to Equestrian. Tirek, Discord, Chrysalis, Storm King, etc. With the elements no more, they could easily wage a war leaving Equestrian as a wasteland, the same wasteland Twilight showed Starlight.


I can't help but wonder what the G5 universe would look like under Nightmare Moon's rule.


Could you do videos of where you meet your other timeline counterparts like you did in the Chrysalis timeline


I think she was successful in one of the timeline we saw. Think about that last one we saw I think that was the successful starlight time line everything was gone without special talents that is what would happen


My question is... does the human worlds timeline change due to the multiverse?


I wonder if dr.hooves and nightmare Moon ever ment up during the time travel?


7:09 Short answer: No, it doesn't end!

Every timeline that exists or has the potential to come into existence, will always beget more potential timelines, and so on! That's how the multiverse theorem works!


Nightmare Moon would even be face to face with Daybreaker.


I would like to see a story where Nightmare Moon would hunt down Alicorn Twilight  and hunt down Starlight to bring them under her control. With Rarity, Twilight and Starlight on her side none will stand against her. All hail Nightmare Moon and Embrace The Dark😍🥰😎


Starlight glimmer never made all theses timelines, she made one parallel timeline. Twilight went to different times in one timeline. Think about it if she went to all different timelines wouldn’t the villains we’ve seen be fighting each other? But if it’s different points in one timeline it makes sense. Think about it as discord, Sombra, nightmare moon, chrysalis, Tyrick, wasteland. It makes more since that twilight went to different points then her just abandoning timelines. But just my theory


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I have a theory about Starlight, and that's the theory that Starlight Could end up being an Alicorn much like Twilight did in Season 3 Episode 13. What evidence do I have? well:

- Much like Twilight, Starlight is a student/pupil for a princess
- Much like Twilight, Starlight is sent to Ponyville to make her own friends, but is hesitant at first
- Much like Twilight, Starlight as altered and "completed" a Starswirl spell.

If given enough time and training, Starlight could end up being the next Alicorn princess that takes over Twilight's role after she leaves, much like with what happened with Luna & Celestia, maybe taking over for both Cadence and Twilight as the Princess of both Friendship and Love, though Flurry might just take over for princess of love instead. And much like Starlight's Mentor and her friends before her, Starlight, Trixie, and all her other friends might form their own "Submane" 6 that does things for Twilight and to protect Equestria.


Hello!
What a phenminal and bain racking theory.
I love what ur doing here.


if alternative timelines would still exist that would make starlight redemption undeserved and make her the worst villian in the show


Nightmare Moon wouldn't even need Starlight Glimmer.  The knowledge that such a spell is possible is enough.  It does make "dream police" an interesting issue though.  Although there is only ONE NMM.  She can't police EVERY pony's dreams.  It is just too much.


I have an alternate alternate timeline. NMM isn't all about brute force, she can be very cunning and patient. After all, if she's secured her timelines version of the time travel spell, she can then manipulate events to bring Starlight and the scroll together at, pardon the pun, a time of her own choosing. She could use the dreamscape to exploit Starlight's own fragile mental state, and NMM did use reward as well as punishment.

Starlight may be obsessed with cutie marks, but she is also curious about other magic, almost as much as Twilight. In this timeline, NMM bribes Starlight and plays to her ego just a little, securing her in the archives and challenging her gradually, building up to the reveal of the time scroll and how to alter it. To hedge her bets, she might give Starlight dreams about both the benefits of supporting NMM and the consequences of failing. NMM could even make it look like she's helping Starlight, by 'ending' the initial nightmare of horrible consequences and appearing as a sort of savior. NMM could also combine this with sleep deprivation, and maybe even implanted code words or inhibitions that mean Starlight can't use the power on NMM, but rather becomes yet another weapon NMM can use to make examples of anyone opposing her. Sure, random executions until morale improves is fine, but seeing some formerly energetic activist have their cutie mark removed and then have to make do in everyday life? That'll get ponies to think twice. Especially if you make a stage spectacle of it...

I am totally not a villain!


ok but now i wanna see a video explaining what happened to all the alternate Twilights and Spikes, assuming Spike was even born in some, if any, of the timelines


Maybe in this timeline, Starlight saves the day, what if she copied the spell herself and used it to stop Nightmare, or even worse, went back to brainwash Nightmare into the cult. What if all that time alone brought DayBreaker back once the spell ended. I could just picture her release looking like the moon set ablaze